A Raiders and Moss reunion
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, December 9th, 2008 at 4:22 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Randy Moss is living the good life with the New England Patriots, where by all accounts, he’s been a team leader and professional enough to meet or exceed the exacting standards set by Bill Belichick.
The same Moss who used indifference as a weapon to get himself traded from the Oakland Raiders to the Patriots for a fourth round draft pick.
In preparation for Sunday’s game at the Coliseum agaisnt the Raiders, Moss and the Patriots will be practicing at San Jose State this week. They opted to remain on the West Coast following a 24-21 win over the Seattle Seahawks rather fly home and then double back.
It’s doubtful the Raiders will be sending a police motorcade to bring Moss to the Coliseum, as they did when the trade with Minnesota for Napoleon Harris and a first-round draft pick became official.
In 29 games with the Patriots, Moss has 159 receptions, 2,334 yards and 31 touchdowns. In 29 games with the Raiders in 2005 and 2006, Moss had 102 receptions for 1,558 yards and 11 touchdowns.
Al Davis is still steaming over allowing Lane Kiffin to talk him into dumping the most explosive receiver of his era, saying the coaching staff didn’t feel they could deal with Moss.
Kiffin’s version, of course, was much different. Kiffin said Moss told him his problems were not with the then-rookie coach, but with the organization.
Considering the rejuvenation of Moss, one could conclude it was the Raiders which dragged down the receiver rather than Moss contributing to the continuing demise of the Raiders.
In reality, Moss and the Raiders were bad for each other.
Through training camp and the first four games of the 2005 season, Moss was everything the Raiders expected and more. There was a miracle a day in Napa, the most incredible training camp I’ve ever seen from a Raiders player. Some of his catches defied description.
“Randy and C-Wood (Charles Woodson) used to go at each other all the time,” Raiders wide receiver Ronald Curry said Monday. “I never had seen anyone get the best of C-Wood time and again but Randy seemed to be one of those guys that did.
“A lot of guys struggled against C-Wood, but Randy came in and did well against him. To me, that pretty much told me how good he was.”
Through four games, Moss had 19 catches for 466 yards and two touchdowns. There were scoring plays of 73 and 64 yards, plus another of 79 yards. When the 2008 Raiders finish a 16-game season, there won’t be a single wide receiver anywhere near 466 yards.
Following a bye in Week 6, Moss went up for a leaping attempt against San Diego, came down in a heap with injuries to his pelvis and groin, and from that point on, things were never the same.
He played 24 more games and was only over 100 yards twice. He finished 2005 with 60 catches for 1,005 yards, with injuries assuming much of the blame.
In 2006, there was no magic in training camp, and Moss looked ordinary. The week of the opener, Moss said on a weekly radio spot that things were “fishy” in Oakland.
Moss dropped passes, blamed the miscues on being unhappy, loafed his way through pass routes and had 42 catches for 553 yards and three touchdowns through 14 games before calling it quits with an ankle injury.
There was some speculaton among NFL types that Moss had lost his legs, and that being a jump-and-catch receiver who relied on speed and athleticism rather than precision, he would never return to the form of his prime with Minnesota.
Davis did not agree, but reluctantly traded Moss for a fourth-round draft pick. The owner went on record at Rich Gannon’s retirement press conference saying he had regrets about trading Moss and that he was convinced Moss could still play.
The fourth-round pick for the Raiders turned out to be Cincinnati defensive back John Bowie, who never left the bench in 2007 and is on injured resrerve this season.
As Moss re-ignited with the Patriots, former Raiders defensive back Jarrod Cooper noted, “That’s OK. At least we got Bowie.”
Raiders coach Tom Cable was delighted to plead ignorance where Moss and the Raiders were concerned.
“I was not part of any of that,” Cable said. “I knew he was here. I thought he was going to be here. So I really didn’t know anything about that.”
The Moss situation spoke to the declining state of the franchise. Once upon a time, the Raiders were a perfect place for an iconoclast. The various behaviorial quirks and “I play when I want to play” persona would have been welcomed and even celebrated.
But without a self-policing group of veteran players and with a dearth of victories, Moss simply quit trying until he got his way and was sent out of town.
He remains reviled not only by some in the media but by old-school players and coaches who believe there is never any excuse for giving less than a best effort, regardless of the circumstances.
But there was a big difference from Moss and the 49ers-vintage Terrell Owens, who moved about as a loner in the locker room with many teammates not knowing what to make of him or having outright dislike for him.
Moss engendered very little ill-will amongst his teammates despite an obvious lack of effort. Curry said he would remember Moss as No. 18, the number he wore in Oakland.
“Randy was great in the locker room. He was great to be around,” Curry said. “I’d take him any day. He was a good person.”
Curry shrugged off the Moss years in Oakland as a blip on the radar screen.
“A pro is a pro. You’re here to play. People are going to have off years, down years here and there,” Curry said. “Two of his down years were here. It didn’t make his career. It might have made him a little hungrier. That may be one of the reasons why he is doing what he’s doing now.”
That’s not the kind of credit Davis had in mind when it comes to the legacy of Randy Moss.
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December 9th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Agreed
December 9th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
408
Did you see the last post on the last thread
December 9th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
I did her Dirty lol
December 9th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Nnamdi will take care of that guy 4 the Nation!
December 9th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
4eva
She was great
December 9th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
then I woke up!!!
December 9th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Dirty
yes Sir!
December 9th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
U know all I wanted was for the players who did this team wrong to have a day of judgement and our players just let them walk all over them when they come to play.
December 9th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
when she asked me if I was “in” I said in? I’m done
December 9th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
408ay the hook up down for me with that Gore whore! She needs a little more meat but she’ll do in a pinch!
December 9th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
ok need a cig break… Man I didn’t work at all today. (crap)
December 9th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
In preparation for Sunday’s game at the Coliseum agaisnt the Raiders, Moss and the Patriots will be practicing at San Jose State this week. They opted to remain on the West Coast following a 24-21 win over the Seattle Seahawks rather fly home and then double back
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Its on! Im gonna go talk hella smack! Might even make a sign and everything!
December 9th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
get em 408
December 9th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Would like to see Gibril, knock his azz out on a slant route.
December 9th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
UFCK Moss.
Also, he never would have done well in Oakland b/c the officials were all over him. He got killed on that play vs SD before the ball arrived. Disgraceful that no penalty was called.
December 9th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
my bad brien that link is dead she had some nice pictures on there too…
December 9th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
So they say that he’s currently at San jose huh? What are we waiting for! Someone take his @$$ out now!!!! We know where he’s at!
December 9th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
prolly my ex everyone did her
December 9th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
lets see dem dreds Brien!!!!!!!!!
December 9th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Wilson earn yo money and lay moss the ufck out!
December 9th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Moss is a child when it comes to what he did for our franchise and all the money he took and did nothing. Lamont is another 1. The fact that he never took his role seriously in the off season is exactly why I dislike him no wonder he was always injured! I always wondered why and once Sapp told us I knew he was a punk.
December 9th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Raider’s D stand up!!!! You damn over payed players earn yo money and lay out day b!tch mutherufcker called fanny moss!!!!!
December 9th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
I can’t believe I bought a Moss jersey. In fact my last two white jerseys I bought were Moss and Jeff George. I think I am going to stick to the blacks
December 9th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
R.A.W
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=Bss&q=sanjose%20state%20football%20stadium&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl
December 9th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
I just called mr lil brother were getting the crew together! Were gonna go raise hell tomorrow.. So if you hear bout some drunken raider fans getting arrested U know whats up!
December 9th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Should we start the 408 bail fund?
December 9th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Vegas
We probably should
December 9th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
I wish I coulod go =(
December 9th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
could sorry =)
December 9th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
I knew things were doomed with Randy on the Monday night opening game against the Chargers. Our offense was terrible, finally got a few things going on short swing passes to Moss and than he threw the ball in the face of the punter and got flagged. Straight downhill form there.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Till Sunday, all my comments will have a “FUKK MOSS!” or something like that in it, SCREW MOSS! Hella pumped right now
December 9th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Jerry – Not that it matters but Moss wore #84 in Minnesota, not #81.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
408 bail fund….LOL..
December 9th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
It would be a mistake not to pair Asomugha with moss all day but I fear the worst. I’d hate to see Moss make Asomugha look bad but I would think Asomugha might teach Moss a lesson. I still love Charles Woodson but Woodson couldn’t stop Moss and that was disappointing.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
me and my fiance go to san jose state. its bin fun yelling and screaming at the cheatriots. its a great bonding experience for me and my fiance since we both share the same passion of hating everything about the cheatriots
December 9th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Something is fishy around here (indeed)
December 9th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Its weird thinking the Patriots our in my my city. They are just up the freeway a few exits from where I live. I feel so dirty.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Wow…
An earthquake, brush fire, and a real good freeway police pursuit going down. here in SO-CAL.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
909 – Sounds like an action movie.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Moss obviously got the last laugh……. well, hell the NFL is laughing it’s azz off.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
WTF
the link I posted isnt the screen I was on!
December 9th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Cops are chasing a dude, in a stolen F-350 utility bed. Tried the PIT three times so far. Crazy.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
well heres the adress
1257 S. 10th Street, San Jose, CA – (408) 924-6363 -
between 7th, 10th, Alma & Humbolt!
December 9th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
#
# James Says:
December 9th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
me and my fiance go to san jose state. its bin fun yelling and screaming at the cheatriots. its a great bonding experience for me and my fiance since we both share the same passion of hating everything about the cheatriots
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were they on the practice field or in the stadium?#
December 9th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Revenge!!! Moss, patriots, and the NFL won’t be laughing no more as the RAIDER NATION STRIKES BACK!!!!!!
December 9th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
I could be wrong, but I remember when we played the Vikings, when Moss was with them, and the Moss vs. Woodson matchup was a big deal. I remember Moss making a spectacular one-handed leaping catch, but we won and I only think he had like two catches.
People in Pat land are already seeing the quit in Randy, he has dropped a ton of passes of late and his attitude is souring. Of course he will probably be fired up and torch us this weekend.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Vegas
I wont go to jail I hope! But we are gonna raise a lil Hell!
December 9th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
408
That pic I posted earlier guess how old she is?
December 9th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
c-ya Vegas
December 9th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
L8tr Vegas!
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Dirty
Old enough?
22
December 9th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
19 Sooooo dirty
December 9th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
I have a new name for moss: “The B!tch”
December 9th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
One of you guys up there needs to bring a bull horn. Make sure that jackazz hears you.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
damn!
December 9th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Moss was too weak, mentally to be a Raider!!! They dont make them like Tim Brown and Rice, anymore!!
December 9th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
909
That would be hilarious! Man I would talk $hit the whole practice! Vrabel would probably kick my a$$.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
It’s sort of like the Navy and the Marines Most men can handle the navy. It takes a special man to be a Marine!!!
Now u c the difference !!!=)
December 9th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Unknown
KK is gonna come after you for that 1 lol
December 9th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
I don’t think Moss or the Pats are too concerned with the Raiders OR Raider fans Cartoon Caricatures.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
408….
Dude crashed into a parked car, then bailed on foot. If Al gets the tape, he is going to want to sign the cop that caught the dude. The cop was FAST and made a great open field tackle.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
No one ever has talked about Moss flipping Freddie B off in the opener against SD when he went over to talk with him and Porter. The biggest problem is Al still does not realize that
oss disrespected the game, oakland, the raiders, its legends, and tha fans. He did not want to be in Oakland, thanks Art.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
unknown you coulda left rice outa that 1!
December 9th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
lets bring him in 909! couldnt hurt!
December 9th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
It’s kewl. He’s cursed anyway. He had his best chance for a ring last year, but he’s dragging around too much bad mojo. Kinda like Bonds. Kinda like Al.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Everyboby, knows that shoe fits El Dirty!!! lol
It’s a fact!!
December 9th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Would be funny. A dozen or so Nation knuckle heads, chanting in unison through bullhorns. “Moss is a quitter” And “Fuk you Randall”.
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Yeah you could really yuk it up, if there’s enough security around to protect you. lol
December 9th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
WORST TRADE IN THE HISTORY OF PRO SPORTS!
December 9th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Kell…
He can take a swing on me, I could use the $$
December 9th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
909
That would be cool
unknown
ouch lol
December 9th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Maybe, Al is going to put the dirt infield back for this game. Randall didn’t like to run his routes on the dirt.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Why is everyone so bitter with Randy Moss? You’ve got John Bowie, for chrissakes!
December 9th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Nation I am out! Have fun tonight! Refer all Haters and troll to this link!
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww91/eldirty101/G.jpg
December 9th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
TRUTH…
Worst trade in the history of PRO sports was, when the Cubs traded Lou Brock, to the Cardinals. Way back when.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
KoolKell…
Moss QUIT on us, that is why.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Uh, there was that little Babe Ruth thing…I’m just sayin’
December 9th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
me 2 I’M out 2 l8ter NATION: 408 be carefull 2morrow =)
December 9th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Hubbard…
I believe the Babe, was sold by the Bosox to the Yanks.
But that is the gold standard, of player transactions that backfired.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
I can bet my life savings that Ryan won’t have Asomugha on Moss. CJ will get burned without safety help.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Yes! You are correct sir! My mistake
December 9th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Not Moss’s fault.
Horrid Oline, coaches and general malaise.
Don’t blame him.
No one to throw the ball to him. I’d have wanted out too.
“Following a bye in Week 6, Moss went up for a leaping attempt against San Diego, came down in a heap with injuries to his pelvis and groin, and from that point on, things were never the same.”
Double teamed and and one of the worst non called P.I.’s I’ve seen.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
909
I think he quit on the B&B offense, no use in jeoparding your health/career for that. That’s just the
way it is baby. It’s a business.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
In a hopeless situation, it’s self-preservation baby! There’s nothing else to be gained.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
KoolKell…
That may be true, on the B & B angle. But nevertheless, he did QUIT. Saw that with my own eyes, didn’t finish routes, wouldn’t block, and then sit on the bench by HIMSELF and pout.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Randy Moss is the poster child of narcissitic, overpaid, crybaby, primadonna professional athletes. While the entire country reels in recession these punks jingle, jangle, wah, wah, wah, I don’t want to play, my toe hurts, the dirt is supposed to be grass, blah, blah. A major dose of reality is in order here, like a one or two million dollar fine for violation of contract clauses, the whole culture makes me want to puke on my flatscreen, dammit jim no big deal, I do that by halftime every freakin week while watching the Raider game.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
More on the B&B angle. Moss was OPEN plenty of times, but poor Andrew was usually on his backside.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:36 pm
moss, should be called me mussh… lol
December 9th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
No doubt. I’m just saying, players aren’t going to kill themselves in a hopeless situation. Particularly in a sport where injury can end your career in a heartbeat.
We seem to hold athletes to a higher standard than the Bush Crime Family, War Profiteers, Wall Street Bank Robbers, CEO’s taking a 10 million dollar “bonus’” while laying off thousands.
But everybody in front of their monitors here is holier than thou, and absolutely Indignant with a black athelete wearing fur coat, perceived to be making too much money, just terribly indignant, huff!
December 9th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
Wow, where did that come from. I never knew u could make a decent point!!
I guess it’s becauce, u didn’t blame Al for that.. =)
December 9th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
Moss quit. He didn’t have much to work with in terms of coaches, QB, etc., but there were times when he just stopped running his route for no reason when passes probably would’ve been completed even at 75% effort.
Incredible speed, size, ball skills, savvy but the guy quits as soon as the going gets tough. Can’t have it all I guess.
And with the Raiders lately the going is always tough.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 9th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
… We seem to hold athletes to a higher standard than the Bush Crime Family, War Profiteers, Wall Street Bank Robbers, CEO’s taking a 10 million dollar “bonus’” while laying off thousands. …
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Yeah, because no one is pissed at those other guys!
I hear what you’re saying though.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
No one else in this violent corrupt society has to carry the burdens of YOUR MORAL VALUES but black athletes.
He’d better be the salt of the earth, mid-western christian humanitarian humble thrifty huck finn saint, Elks Club president bombaya not required of anyone else in this society.
Watch your step JaMarcus, McFadden, were watching you.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
C’mon Kell, these friggin guys live in an Alice in wonderland world. They are catered through every turn in life. No accountability, all I’m sayin is gripeing about anything short of security, they have not one clue. Let’im bust their @$$ for 12 or 15 hundred a week like most of the rest of us, they have no b@tch, and no concept of struggle, financially speaking.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
So will we ever get a look at John Bowie or what? Is he going to be on scholarship now because he was a track star in college?
December 9th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Moss was thrown plenty of balls when he was with the Raiders but the little girl didn’t try to make a catch even though the balls almost touched his Nose they were so close, he’s a punk little girl playing for the team that cheats like hell.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
I never hear any complaints about the money Robert Gallery got. His long hair, tatoos. Never heard him called lazy & dumb. Never. None of that personal scrutiny.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
John Bowie’s on scholarship because he’s all Al Davis has go to show for Randy Moss, period.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
John bowie? Is he still gonna on the team next year?
December 9th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Yo Kell, you are obviuosly bitter about issues and grievences that just are not present in professional sports. Answer me this genius, why is there no affirmative action in pro sports? C’mon smart guy, no salt, no bible, no elks club, and no quotas because everything is based on ability and athletisism, but then you are far to poisened by the baiters, and the haters to realize the ill in your heart. Read up on a very famous balck historic figure, Mr. George Washington Carver, his writings will untwist not only your logic, but your heart and soul as well, peace brother.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Robert Gallery got damned near the same money as Russell.
Never hear any complaints about his money, or his IQ
Black Athlete Just don’t rub the bling in the poor white man’s face (because he’s entitled to live better than You) Take on the persona of a Baptist preacher, and you’ll be alright.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Every player quits when they sign with this team.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
R.A.W.
Another waste of a draft pick. The Bowie pick hurts more because we gave up Moss for him. I wish we would start drafting football players, not track stars.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
The one thing that I have to say about Moss is that he is a good receiver. However, since I had witnessed during that 2006 year first hand that he had gave up and not play, I say F%&k him. There were times that had he given effort like how he did in 05, we probably could have won maybe 2 more games. Maybe Brayton didn’t need to knee Stevens in the balls that Monday night, huh? So…hopefully, whoever covers his punk arse this Sunday, better give him hell!!!
December 9th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Raiderhomey
You don’t know me.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Hey Kel (Post 95),
You want it, here goes…Gallery from 2006 and before can give us Raider Fans all of his dam money because he never deserved it. However, he did restructure this past offseason and has done decent with the zbs. Well, if Cable goes, which we all know is going to happen, Gallerey will probably go too because…well…what will he do here. And besides, he’s a free agent next year… Another Kelley in the making (money)????
December 9th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
Robert Gallery, while not close to living up to the hype, has proven to be quite solid inspite of a coaching change every 5 or 10 minutes. The jury is still out on Jamarcus, however, there’s a huge difference in many phases between these two ultra high draft picks. Gallery may yet become a pro-bowler, he has shown his dedication through hard training, and practices, and at times can be dominate. A “serviceable” left tackle would in all probability improve his game even more. Jamarcus on the other hand, is the 60 million dollar #1 pick face of the franchise. He should be hanging out in the weight room, like your buddy Donovan McNabb instead of your nearest Pop-eye fried chicken take out, if you know what I mean.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
I hear you, Raiderhomey. That is why I said from ‘06 on down. JRuss on the other hand…he better show us fans something…in Denver he loooked to be (Possibly) on track, then KC…, the SD…
December 9th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
#106
instead of your nearest Pop-eye fried chicken take out, if you know what I mean.
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I know exactly what you mean. That’s was my last few post have been saying. Thanks for making my point!
Ya see what I’m saying, Hwnrdr
December 9th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
We need to find a rock at safety in the off-season, whether it be free agency or the draft. The Hiram Eugene, Rashad Baker combination is not sufficient. Ugh, Michael Huff, why can’t you just do what you were paid to do??
December 9th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
110…I see what you’re saying…
December 9th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
dikembesaysno Says:
December 9th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
We need to find a rock at safety in the off-season, whether it be free agency or the draft. The Hiram Eugene, Rashad Baker combination is not sufficient. Ugh, Michael Huff, why can’t you just do what you were paid to do??
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ve been saying that for ever. Do your job!
Stop blaming Al for people not doing their job!!
December 9th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
Dikembesayno, sorry to break the news, but it is becoming more evident by the week, Huff cannot play effectively at this level. Something is wrong somewhere, not really sure where, but his physical tools while impressive, does not offer enough “up here”, he lacks heart, confidence, a coach who can exploit his strengths, whatever it is holding him back, damn, I hope he leaves this funk behind like Aso did after his third season, but don’t hold your breath.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Unknown,
I think the Al criticism is justified when so many football decisions in recent years have been down right BAD, from drafting to free agency, to the coaching carousel. However, I agree that many of the players are not executing and that is beyond Al’s control.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
COULD BE LONELY AT HOUSTON GAME. PLAYER’S /COACH’S MAY OUTNUMBER FAN’S
December 9th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Raiderhomey,
I think you have a pretty accurate assessment of Huff. I remember earlier in the season he admitted that open field tackling has been one of his weaknesses at the “next level.” His head just does not seem to be in it, and like you, I agree that probably stems from a lack of confidence. Until he gains confidence in his abilities I’m afraid we will never get to see him reach his full potential. Believe me homey, I’ve learned not to hold my breadth for anything with this team.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Maybe Robbo should just blitz Huff every other play, he might make a tackle or two, who know’s, he may even dare I say, create a turnover, noe that would be special.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Where are the white guys wearing bling during the Game?
December 9th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
It’s funny how all the top-rated college players the Raiders have been able to draft recently, are all unable to play at this level
Gallery
Huff
Washington
Russell
McFadden
Coincidence? You be the judge.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
ronni, they have no charisma for that. U didn’t know?
December 9th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
Kell,
I assume you’re one of those fans who are ready to declare Russell and McFadden busts. Sigh.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
I don’t blame Randy for wanting out of that hell. If I had a better opportunity at a better company you can sure bet I would do all I could to get out and not look back. Blame Al for your problems not Randy.
December 9th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
SHOULD HAVE HAD SOME OF THESE BLOGGER’S PUT TO SLEEP AT AGE OF 2. NEW THEY WUOLD NOT AMOUNT 2 MUCH. TO EARLY TO PULL THE PLUG ON SOME OF THESE GUY’S
December 9th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
With the first round pick in the 2009 draft the Oakland Raiders select USC middle linebacker Ray Maualuga. Morrison moves to the outside with Howard. The run defense improves. A prolific middle linebacker will help a weak and mediocre d-line.
The only way the Raiders beat the Pats is a low scoring game similar to the Jets score 16-13 or 13-10. This means the Raiders need at least 2 picks and one great special teams play. Yikes.
December 9th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
My Mavericks just wont die!!!
slurs, u r done in this final, OT!!!
December 9th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
Not gonna happen No Lo. We have bigger problems. O-LINE.
December 9th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
Hey Dikembesaysno,
You’re right, but at least (hopefully) half our problems will be solved…unless, of course, Aso leaves…then…
December 9th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
I did mean the run d that will help out the pass d, which will help out with…oh heck, plug in what you want…
December 9th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Hwnrdr,
I agree the run d is in need of a big-time upgrade. It’s going to be interesting to see how we address it.
December 9th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
#123 Your paid all that money to PLAY. Instead he dropped passes on purpose. What a little girl.
December 9th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
Maualuga will be great, and I’m sure he will help, but we need a coach who would be able to utilize his, and every other draftees talent to full potential. Unfortunately, Al will have to leave the next coach alone…But I do like that pick!!!
December 9th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
You know what Kell (post 132),
I used to be one of those fans that was blinded by the Greatness of Al Davis past. However, this coaching carousel, the players carousel, the blame game, the “everyone’s to blame but me” game needs to end, and it needs to end now. I won’t wish death on him, or anyone else (okay, is Elway an exception when he played?), but he needs to understand how badly he needs a strong GM and Head Coach and let them do their job. Al will always be the owner (until he passes) and then his next of kin(s) will inherit it. Al…WAKE UP ALREADY AND REALIZE WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO OUR BELOVED SILVER AND BLACK!!!
Seriuosly…please wake up from the long 25+ year coma. Your way just isn;t working anymore…
December 9th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
#122 Dikembesaysno,
Nah bro, I was being sarcastic.
But the Al Davis apologizers are will throw anybody under the bus to defend him
How can you throw your players of the future under the bus to protect a GM whose lost at least 11 games for the last Six Years, to Set an NFL Record? Astonishing. It just goes to show you people can justify anything they want. Like the Germans justified the holocaust. Americans justified genociding Indians. Justified Slavery. They are emotionally invested in Al Davis, and they don’t care what, period!
December 9th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Hey Kell, history lesson #2 for you tonite, correction, the United States never justafied slavery, to the contrary my dear brother, the slavery issue was a festering war of debate and gave birth to many factions of dissent, before ultimately being outlawed with the emancipation proclamation, and by the way, we that being The United States of America are the only nation to abolish the pratice on her shores, but then Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Jeramiah Wright and the rest of their ilk, continue to distort the facts, rewrite history, and continue the divide of their very own people in this country. They all do it for one reason, and one reason only, to exploit the greviances, to make a profit, masters of deceit they are, the thickest of all the scum that accumalates on the pond of humanity.
December 9th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
#130
I agree. That’s all I’m saying.
I have no idea why the Mods deleted that post!
Mod, are you an Al Davis apologist too?
December 9th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
Raiderhomey
In fact, if you’re interested in facts. The United States was the last country in the America’s & Europe to turn it’s back on slavery. Google it dude.
December 9th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
no lo Says:
December 9th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
With the first round pick in the 2009 draft the Oakland Raiders select USC middle linebacker Ray Maualuga. Morrison moves to the outside with Howard.
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Brian Cushing is a better pro prospect than Maualuga. Morrison is too slow to move outside. Just saying.
December 9th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
yeah buddy, America is what, 230 or so years old, and Europe, get a grip dude, The USA has done more to promote the black race than every other country combined. Have you been sleeping these last 4 weeks bub? And another little known fact their my little google buddy, African Americans as a whole, economically, rank 12, that’s right, 12 in the entire WORLD, in earning power, and net worth. Put that in your tired @$$ pipe of complaints and smoke it.
December 9th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
#136
Yeah dude. America has done something nobody else could probably do, I never thought it would happen in my lifetime. I’m so proud of her. I’m just saying, there’s still idiots like you among us. Declining yes, but still resentful. Who won’t let the sterotypes go
December 9th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
# Unknown Says:
December 9th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
dikembesaysno Says:
December 9th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
We need to find a rock at safety in the off-season, whether it be free agency or the draft. The Hiram Eugene, Rashad Baker combination is not sufficient. Ugh, Michael Huff, why can’t you just do what you were paid to do??
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ve been saying that for ever. Do your job!
Stop blaming Al for people not doing their job!!
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Come on you guys, it’s Al Davis’s fault Huff can’t tackle. It’s Al Davis’s fault Shankikowsky misses, it’s Al’s fault Curry drops all those passes and then bitches about it. Why hold the players accountable for their play on the field?? KoolKell and MR say it’s all Al, blame him.
December 9th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Hey pal, I resent nothing, matbe it’s time to end “all” of the slavery eh, like 45 years of out of control welfare, unchecked affirmative action, the dumbing down of a whole class of people, and by the way, the problems reside right in their own communities, how else can you explain 50 percent of African American males do not graduate high school, or the demagraphic age group in the A.A. community, males, between the ages of 14 and 35, follow closely now, constitute 2 percent of the population, yet they commit 50 percent of the homicides, hey man, yall’s problems reside in your own communities, stop blaming whitey for all your ills, gripes, and hatred, just listen to yourself, you and Michele Obama are finally proud, sad my dear bitter Raider fan, sad indeed.
December 9th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
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December 9th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
And another little known, or should I say reconized fact, your hero, Obama, does not, let me repeat, does not contain one drop of “African American” blood in his veins. Not to burst your bubble in any way, but here are the facts, he is 50 percent white, from his caucasin mother, and 42 percent arab, 8 percent Kenyan by his father, just the facts, jack.
December 9th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Kell, yo Kell, I know the truth can be brutal at times, please do not try to talk down anybody in here again, you do not posses the mental capacity to produce and flourish @ this level, kinda like Jamarcus up to this point it seems, I hope he proves my “narrow sterotype” wrong in the future.
December 9th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
between the ages of 14 and 35, follow closely now, constitute 2 percent of the population, yet they commit 50 percent of the homicides
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No doubt to a lot of what you’re saying. But you’d have to show me that stat. While you’re at it, look up the child molesting stats.
I’m not bitter, I’ve gotten over the blame whitey syndrone. I’m prosperous. I’m just saying, black Raider players seem to be resented more than white Raider players. Nobody complained about Gallery’s singning bonus, 24 million. Nobody called him an ignorant azz peckerwood when he failed at tackle for 2 years. Nobody said he ate possum stew.
That’s all I saying. If you don’t like it too fukn bad/out
December 9th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
408,
when i went they were in the stadium. my girl is a cheerleader so we never have issues going to the stadium. im not sure if they are letting just everyone in tho. it was pretty miuch dead when i was there. only a few other raiders fans and we all got kicked out after like 15 minutes.
December 9th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
moss wore 84 in minnesota..
December 9th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
Okay Kell, now we are getting somewhere, I resent this whole bunch of pretenders, with the exception of Thomas Howard, D-Mac, Fargas, ASO, and Lechner, last time I checked that’s one white dude in a list of five. Get over it, Ja-bling Russel shows incredible immaturaty, over the top Deion Sanders flash, a lazy work ethic, and he thus far has done exactly nothing, non-ka, ZIP, squaw-doosh, let’s see a couple of comeback victory marches in the 4th quarter ala Montana, Elway, Farve, hell even his fellow rookie Flacco, before he pulls his “Broadway Joe” west coast style look.
December 9th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Oops, I forgor Gibril in that list, he is a bonafide stud.
December 9th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
flacco, is a baby, who nobody cares about!!
December 9th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
One of the things a team has to have, is an identity. What is our teams identity? Who are the leaders of our team?
One of the first things you are ever told as an athlete is do not embarrass yourself, do not embarrass the team, do not embarrass the organization. Did any of you see that last game?
December 9th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Never had a problem with Moss and thought he fit the Raider philosophy well. Wasn’t his fault he was here during the Shell era. we couldn’t keep a Qb upright so it made no diff if Moss was open, idling or on the sideline.
December 9th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Besides the loss, what r u talking about, Oak?
December 9th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Oakglenn’s Revenge Says:
December 9th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
One of the things a team has to have, is an identity. What is our teams identity? Who are the leaders of our team?
One of the first things you are ever told as an athlete is do not embarrass yourself, do not embarrass the team, do not embarrass the organization. Did any of you see that last game?
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Saw not only the last game, but the Saints and 1st Denver game too…
December 9th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Oak G:
Who can be the Leader when Davis is on high to over rule?
Coach can’t make an example, players really can’t step up and call others out if their Davis’ favs what do you do?
December 9th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
What is the identity of our team??? Our we a physical team?? A smart team?? A tenacious team that scraps and never gives up?? What kind of team ARE WE?? And I don’t mean right now, I mean over the last 2 years? This is one of the first things a coach needs to instill.
December 9th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Oakglenn, everybody in that lockeroom laughing is on borrowed time, this putrid pile of fecal matter that Al Davis has squeezed out of his wrinkled cheeks has bottomed out, finally. The entire franchise will implode without the presence of a Madden/Parcells personality installed at the gm, or upper management position. Al simply cannot continue to run a billion dollar enterprise like a 1970’s popsicle stand. Until the futility of his management affects the “bottom line” of the other franchises, they will all sit back and rejoice in the continued destruction that has scarred this once “greatest winning percentage team of all time” to the ever growing hemroid it has become.
December 9th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
Oak, we r any disgraceful adjective that u can muster to describe us!!!
December 9th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Oh I almost forgot, nitey nite Kool Kell, you get some rest okay, tomorrow is a big day for you, now that you’ve been enlightened.
December 9th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Get over it, Ja-bling Russel shows incredible immaturaty, over the top Deion Sanders flash, a lazy work ethic, and he thus far has done exactly nothing, non-ka, ZIP,
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I think he’s had several good games. We’ll see.
Lazy work ethic? You base that statement on what?
Do you know that, or are you just belching from your couch?
Bling? Yes I agree. 22yr old #1 draft choice. I didn’t hear any Leinart personal attacks when he was associated with hollywood ho’s.
But all this is besides the point. Al Davis is the ultimate Shot-Caller here. 6 straight years of losing 11 games or more. Going back to when JaMarcus was still in high school.
But hey, whatever, I aint gonna call you any names. I’m not going to change your perspective. I’m just glad America is changing.
December 9th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
What about Lamont Jordan?? Is everyone going to be focusing on Moss…
December 9th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
No doubt Rosanna.
I mentioned before how it would be just super if Jordan rushes for 100+ against us.
Yuck!
He’s been fairly ineffective and injured alot for the Pats, but still…
December 9th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Heres the dealio, in all honesty, who knows which Raiders team will turn up this Sunday?
The one that thrashed the Broncos or the one that got killed by the Broncos?
The roller coaster is making me sick…
December 9th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
Man I don’t see why jerry or reporters would ask curry anything about the raiders when we all know his heart isn’t here. That sometimes pros have down years was stated to make his ownself look good because he’s having a so called “down year.” The difference between him and randy is randy dropped passes on purpose to get out of oakland because al and everyboy else really wanted him here, ron drops passes because he just sucks and no one wants him here. So of course he’s going to say good things about randy, but if he was a real raider he’d feel f*** randy he was a cool when he was here on the team but come sunday all I see is a pattsy and he’s going down. The raiders mystique is gone and it shows in the play and statements of pieces of sh*t like curry, and I can’t wait until the season is over so he can get his non catching a** out of here.
December 9th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Nnamdi I don’t buy that “Al Davis is sitting in the ivory tower so everyone is emasculated” argument. In the 70’s, 80’s late 90’s and the early part of this century Davis was sitting in that exact same ivory tower and players responded. It has to be something different. Those 2000-2002 teams were physical smart teams. The last few years we have weak, disinterested teams.
December 9th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Ron Curry thinks other teams are going to be lined up to sign his ass up after his last two terrible years and his injury plagued career, when they can sign faster, younger, hungrier players for about one tenth as much???? He better put down the cell phone with his agent on speed dial.
December 9th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
I agree america is changing!!!
The highest incarceration rate in the world!!
The worst economy in the world, darn near!!
Changing for the worse, I agree!!! shhhh
December 9th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
You know, Moss might be responsible for a lot of the poor attitude we have here. Moss came in rejuvenated, quickly soured, and then did nothing til he got his ass shipped to exactly where he wanted. That right there, is a beautiful blueprint for every underachieving or marginal player on the entire roster. Problem with that is there is only one Randy Moss. Almost every other player is going to find out, if he can’t furnish film showing excellent skills and effort, the only place he’s going to get shipped to is the unemployment line.
December 10th, 2008 at 12:30 am
I tihnk JRuss is aware that he’s involved in something much bigger than he is, and way beyond his capability to fix. This is not to denigrate him, it is to point out the sorry state of the Raiders.
Maybe he just wants to have a little fun. It’s better than being depressed about it all the time.
December 10th, 2008 at 1:15 am
Oakglenn, I like your last point a lot. The players do nothing for themselves and their careers by blowing assignments, quitting on plays, etc.
I remember Kiffin saying after he first took over that he was going to use that thought as a motivational tool for the team, and I also remember a lot of people thinking that was a really good idea.
Damn. Was he right about that, too?
December 10th, 2008 at 4:21 am
Nobody wants to play in Oakland. Nobody.
December 10th, 2008 at 4:59 am
New tackles.
MLB
2 Wide outs
Different story next year.
Don’t forget, injuries early killed us. Week 4 (was it? ) pre season against the Cards. Carter and more importantly O’Neal out for the year. Lost another FB Justin Griffith for the year too. Walker with his hammy was a no show and DMC’s toes put a damper on our offense as well.
Defense, Burgess was a ghost.
D played well and alot of big plays that cost us games came from back up and reserve guys that wouldn’t have been there if not for dings, poor play by starters (Hall) and injuries.
Closer to wins than alot of people realize because of the awful and high profile blow outs.
Jekyll and Hyde Silver and Black indeed…
December 10th, 2008 at 5:01 am
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December 10th, 2008 at 6:14 am
…Kool Kell #91… With all due respect, #2 pick Robert,(looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane), Gallery, has not received as much personal critisism as Chubbustus lately for the following reasons :
1) Although Gallery could also afford a fur coat and gaudy diamonds the size of bowling balls, he abstains from ,at least, doing so publicly. The fact that Chubbustus continues to do without having proven himself, suggests:
A) He is immature and insecure.
B)He is also Out of touch with reality. None of us would question his attire if he had actually won games with his arm when given the chance.
C)He is also unaware that his behavior is actually putting more pressure on himself.
2)Coach Cable himself has been quoted as saying that Chubbustus is absent on Tuesday. This clearly does not remind me of Rich Gannon throwing his car keys or rocks at John Gruden’s window at 4:00AM. If Chubbustus was clearly working his ass off on ,let’s say..his machanics …publicly…in his spare time, it would do wonders for his image.
3) Blowing off the NFL Network, but much more importantly his fellow team mates by…oddly…not being visably present on the sidelines during the second half of our last blowout, clearly undermines the perception that he is acting as a team leader.
4) His recent statements that openly challenge his receivers to take hits as he does, does nothing to promote team unity. It was confrontational and devisive. Had Chubbustus alternatively said,” I’ve got to do a better job of protecting my receivers by throwing accurately to them. They have the greater risk of sustaining a Darryl Stingly-esque like injury.” It would have shown that he had their back.
Stop your childish implications that legitimate critisisms are racist. We all want Chubbustus to improve, not regress,and ultimately lead our team out of the toilet bowl…. If I may speak for others, it’s not his tremendous ability or potential I’m concerned about. It’s his attitude…
December 10th, 2008 at 6:26 am
you speak 4 me Senile King Aricept =)
December 10th, 2008 at 6:29 am
Moss was a punk who took Davis’ money and gave zero effort after 2005. We all know that is a fact. We all saw it.Al trying to re-write history with regard to Moss irritates me. My recollection from interviews and columns from 2007 is that Kiffin came in intending that Moss would be part of his offense and would gameplan to keep Moss happy.Lane begins reaching out to players as the incoming HC and is unable to get in contact with Moss.For several days was the rumor. Moss wouldn’t take his calls if memory serves. He finally did and informs Kiffin that he no longer wanted to be a Raider would not play another down for them. The team could have enforced his contract and punished him with fines for every day he wasn’t in camp and for every game he missed.I got the impression that Lane felt that Moss had decided no matter what the organization did, he was never going to play another down in a Raider uniform. So all keeping him would do is create a HUGE distraction that he didn’t need while staring the rebuilding process and he still wouldn’t catch a single pass. He had to go and Kiffin knew it and informed Davis of Moss’ stance recommending they try to get something in trade for him as they wouldn’t get any production on the field out of him. Now Al wants us to believe Moss would be playing for Oakland the way he is in New England. That is a fantasy.If Al had kept him he would have caused so many more problems and still wouldn’t have set foot on the field.Despite his production in NE and who the Raiders drafted, Kiffin and Al did the only thing they could with Moss at the time. He had to go.
December 10th, 2008 at 6:32 am
Also I hate 2 beat a dead horse but…Fukkin Mario REALLY NEEDS 2 STEP UP.If he did it would help us 2 ways:We would have our LT 4 years 2 come AND we could draft Mauagula or another mean,nasty,bust you in the mouth all day and like it MLB!!!Come on Mario.Either way after we take Maualuga we need 2 draft nothing but linemen on both sides of the ball,imo =)
December 10th, 2008 at 6:37 am
Maualuga sorry
December 10th, 2008 at 6:40 am
WHAT WEVE GOT HERE, IS FAILIER TO COMMUNICATE. SOME MEN, YOU JUST CAN’T REACH….
December 10th, 2008 at 6:41 am
Jamarcus has major maturity issues.
I was reading about how Flacco takes all his linemen to steakhouses everyweek now.
He foots the majority of the bill( which I presume is hefty),EVERYTIME.
He also said he doesnt like reading novels because he prefers his playbook.
Thats what I want from my QB, leadership and smarts.
Not a Zillion dollar arm and 10 cent brain.
December 10th, 2008 at 6:42 am
Nice post Nnamdi21, I agree the loss of O’Neal and Griffith are bigger than most people realize, especially to the type of game the Raiders need to play to win. And I repeat this team is a smash mouth Running team, that will open up the offense off of play action.
And I am tired of hearing about the sour grapes about the Moss trade, fact is no one has ever spoken about Jerry Porter at the end of last season celebrating the last game like it was the SuperBowl claiming “I’m Free!!” fact is like Randy and like Porter the cancer that is the Raider organization infected them and they quit.
Not unlike the team that played against Atlanta, and more recently San Diego.
Now I agree that this team has potential, but as the main point of Senile King’s post, Russell needs to mature and be a leader, and that starts with getting in shape. But I will cut him some slack, as I am hoping he’s more like Roeslinberger and him blaming his playoff loss on his pinky toe, than like Ryan Leaf. Although big Ben did win a crap load of games in his first season, I hope Russell can find his grove and become the leader that this team desperately needs.
Fact is there is no support behind this team. As is eveident in the on going drama that is Alameda, which means the players are in control of what they do on the field.
We desperately need a leader to step up, and it has to be a player, there is no one else. And we all hope its Russell. What he does this off season, and how in shape he is when he shows up at training camp next year will tell the tale.
December 10th, 2008 at 6:45 am
Nnamdi, post 170. Agreed with that post. I would have loved to see what Carter would have done, especially with oneal blocking for JRuss. Had Walker get over everything that happened in his life (which I know is hard to have a friend and fellow teammate die in his arms) and move on to just football, maybe our season would have been better. However, would Kiff still be around, or would he have bolted for Oregon, Tennessee, etc? With Kif possibly there for this whole season, would we have seen Russell throw down field more, or would he be just handing off like Kiff liked to do? The last 6 years have been about “what if’s” and “next year”…I hope “nest year” will be a better year. Carter said he wants to resign. If he can stay healthy, based on highlights in Carolina, we may only need one wr in the offseason. What do you all think?
December 10th, 2008 at 6:50 am
Raider Joe, 174: Right on. My thoughts exactly. That is why I no longer respect Moss. He is a terrific receiver who always needs to be accounted for, but a punk arse for quitting on us (the Shell II era, well…). He had also said that he hasn’t felt like playing because he was unhappy. Wow…if I told my boss that, I would be gone in a heartbeat!!! But, this is today’s NFL, and it is what it is. Just hoping that our secondary gives him hell on Sunday and expose his punk arse to Bellicheat of what he really is…
December 10th, 2008 at 6:50 am
so thats what you get.I dont like it anymore than you.
December 10th, 2008 at 6:56 am
Hey Holyroller,
With the ridiculous salary that Russell is getting, he could take all of us fans out for steak and cough up the whole bill…You are right, though. He needs to step up and become a leader…
December 10th, 2008 at 7:02 am
hwnrdr;I agree,we need a Proven Veteran receiver.I also would like 2 give Carter another chance 4 sure.Also the loss of OO cant be measured because his loss WAS immeasurable,imo I also think we have a stable of young talent at WR.My personal choice would be 2 have Carter,JLH,Chaz,Sheilds and Watkins rotating all game.Man the opposing DBs would be cooked by the 3rd
December 10th, 2008 at 7:03 am
who cares about Randy Moss? Nnamdi Asomugha is going to shut him down, just like he did Brandon Marshall, Dwayne Bowe & Chris Chambers the last 3 weeks. Wes Welker might have a good day though
December 10th, 2008 at 7:06 am
Hwnrdr,I apologize 4 spelling you’re moniker wrong,wont happen again =)
December 10th, 2008 at 7:07 am
the funny thing with Jerry “cry baby” Porter is this … He’s having his worst season, besides the one Shell had him riding pine (2006). He went from a 3 win team to a 4 win team and both are looking at a Head Coaching change. way to go Jerry!
the grass is much greener on the other side, isn’t it? just like Charlie Garner & Tim Brown going to the Bucs … and Schweigert on the Redskins & Lions.
December 10th, 2008 at 7:08 am
…My personal choice would be 2 have Carter,JLH,Chaz,Sheilds and Watkins rotating all game.Man the opposing DBs would be cooked by the 3rd
I’m, I mean we all are hoping. We do have talented wr’s, just need a coach to maximize their potential. That would be great, though 4eva…
December 10th, 2008 at 7:08 am
FREMONT — The landowner of the site targeted for the Oakland A’s ballpark village opposed the proposal Tuesday night, dealing a serious blow to the team’s efforts to build a stadium adjacent to the Pacific Commons Shopping Center.
Catellus Development Corp., which also owns the shopping center, has determined that the stadium would cause major traffic and parking problems for the shopping center, said Aidan Berry, the company’s vice president.
December 10th, 2008 at 7:10 am
Hey 4evaRaider,
Don’t worry about it…i won’t get mad over a cap error. Thanks for thinking about it, though.
December 10th, 2008 at 7:11 am
RaiderRockstar,
Isn’t that stupid? Wouldn’t that generate more revenue for the shopping center? Wow…
December 10th, 2008 at 7:12 am
We do have talented wr’s, just need a coach to maximize their potential.
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I don’t think the problem here is James Lofton. It’s JaMarcus Russell. He’ll be better with the help of a running game and some pass protection. We won’t have either until we fix the o-line. We need 2 tackles if we stick with the zbs. We need an entire o-line if we scrap the zbs. The Vikings have crap at QB, but are winning their division, because they dominate both lines of scrimmage. Same with the Titans.
December 10th, 2008 at 7:12 am
Gonzales had a great game against Nnamdi,only because he is stronger.Strength really helps on the out routes,so Tony had the advantage on the sidelines and thats where he got most of his 127???yards.Moss is speed and finesse,I think Nnamdi can take em
December 10th, 2008 at 7:13 am
=)
December 10th, 2008 at 7:14 am
Isn’t that stupid? Wouldn’t that generate more revenue for the shopping center? Wow…
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exactly. these people are idiots. they don’t like baseball. must not be Americans!
December 10th, 2008 at 7:23 am
Cutler, Marshall, Royal, Stokley, Scheffler & Graham.
or
Cassel, Moss, Welker, Gaffney, Watson & Faulk.
neither team has a running game. only difference is the Patriots have a better defense. We beat the donks, hopefully we can find a way to beat the pats.
December 10th, 2008 at 7:27 am
If an entity wanted 2 build a Baseball stadium on my property,especially 4 our As,and parking was was a sticking point,I would : A. build a parking garage,or B. offer top dollar 4 more surrounding land.I mean MLB is a profitable entity and people need 2 look at the big PICTURE
December 10th, 2008 at 7:47 am
Randy will destroy the Raiders…
UFCK ME!!!!
December 10th, 2008 at 8:06 am
hey Norco Bob;if you are still thinking on moving 2 Daytona,let me tell you this:Florida is a great place 2 visit.But believe me its no Cali.$ instance people here cant just take their dog down 2 the river with a 40 and a joint.People here are little tattle tails and narks,doing ANYTHING 2 save their own ass.People here can call the police and lie 2 them anonymously repeatedly,and the cops will come every time.!st time offence 4 cultivating is 3 years in STATE PRISON,1st offence.The state gets $198 per-inmate,per-day from the Federal Gov.Thats why they release you at 12:01 AM.Its ALL about getting money from the feds,so the police state of Florida W-A-N-T-S 2 incarcerate you,even falsely,for a day or 2 anyway.I moved here 17 years ago,and I think finally next year I can leave this sh:t hole.Just thought you should know,from 1 NATION BROTHER 2 ANOTHER =)
December 10th, 2008 at 8:13 am
it’s past 8am in California. where is everyone?
December 10th, 2008 at 8:13 am
Randy Moss, whatever. The guy´s a quiter. I don’t watch many Patriots games, but I know Moss aint no Hines Ward, he’s got no fight. I was really happy when he left. He might be the most dangerous weapon in the NFL when playing with Brady, but here in Oak he looked like Javon Walker, Jerry Porter, Roland Curry, etc. No fight, no effort, no interest, etc.
December 10th, 2008 at 8:16 am
There’s still some time to cast your Pro Bowl votes. The Raiders have two players that should be in the game:
CB Nnamdi Asomugha & P Shane Lechler
VOTE VOTE VOTE!
December 10th, 2008 at 8:23 am
I’m here Rockstar…just that bosses are in now, so…
December 10th, 2008 at 8:25 am
*The Raiders waived cornerback Michael Waddell today. The team hasn’t promoted anyone from the practice squad or signed a player yet.
This would be the ideal time to promote another young player to get a head start on evaluating talent for next season.
TE Darrell Strong or FB Marcel Reece would make sense. The Raiders have only two tight ends (Zach Miller, Tony Stewart). Unless the Raiders plan to bring back Luke Lawton, getting a look at Reece, a converted receiver would also make sense.
That Reece could also be an H-Back which would also help with the need for a third tight end at times makes him a sensible option.
-Jason Jones (Sac Bee)
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John Madsen or Darrell Strong would be good options for the 53 man roster.
December 10th, 2008 at 8:30 am
The following players were released this week, maybe the Raiders should consider …
WR Robert Ferguson
DE Erasmus James
CB Brian Kelly
S Calvin Lowry
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Why did the Raiders bring in guards Coston & Gandy, then cut them both after only a week? Are we looking for another guard? Shouldn’t we be looking for tackles?
Another thing I’d like to mention. ex-raider Darnell Bing just officially made the Lions 53 man roster after being promoted from their practice squad. Congrats! He and Quentin Moses were wastes of 3rd & 4th round picks. woohoo!
December 10th, 2008 at 8:35 am
kat Says:
December 10th, 2008 at 4:21 am
Nobody wants to play in Oakland. Nobody.
………………………………………….
very true!!!! they will sign here but they sure dont play hard. its the AD way.
December 10th, 2008 at 8:37 am
Rookie Peyton Hillis joins tailbacks Andre Hall, Michael Pittman, Anthony Alridge and Ryan Torain on IR. Plus, Selvin Young, the starter when the season began, has carried just once in the last two months because of a torn groin. The Broncos are now down to their seventh tailback in Tatum Bell. The Broncos will promote Cory Boyd from the practice squad to compete with P.J. Pope to serve as Bell’s backup.
Bell was selling cell phones at a local mall when he was re-signed last month. After a dismal season in Detroit, he was jettisoned by the Lions and went to work hawking cell phones and wireless plans at a kiosk at the Aurora Mall before the Broncos came calling again last month.
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where is spider? HAHAHAHAHA !!!
December 10th, 2008 at 8:38 am
just a thought;since “Tis the Season”,how ’bout every time you guys hear the song-On The First Day Of Christmas,in honor of Ja-Blingus,when they sing the line Five-Golden Rings,change it too 5 Golden BLINGS!!! Just something 2 think about =)
December 10th, 2008 at 8:43 am
GO KINGS!!!!!!!
December 10th, 2008 at 8:47 am
4eva – Russell showing off diamonds and fur coats, while playing like complete crap on the football field is a disgrace to the Raider Nation. I understand the loss of his godmother has probably taken his toll on him, but he has to recognize his responsibility as a leader of this football team. It’s not about looking good, it’s about playing good. 2007 & 2008 Russell has been a theif. Davis made a financial committment to him in good faith, but Russell either doesn’t have what it takes, or isn’t putting in the effort. In either case, we’re screwed. Hopefully he dedicates this offseason to improving his game. He can’t use coaches or teammates as an excuse, he has to take it on himself to be a Pro Bowler or he will get the BUST label. Nobody that has pride would want that label slapped on them.
December 10th, 2008 at 8:48 am
Post 208. Man that was so fugging lame.
December 10th, 2008 at 8:49 am
I already have the “bust”. I suck ballz.
December 10th, 2008 at 8:50 am
S&B – Nation Collective Says:
Big Al’s Goon,
The fact that we went 10-6 in 2001 only makes the inept draft more alarming. The Raiders should have been able to focus on one or two positions. AND the Raiders wouldn’t have had to worry about pressing those players into service.
Tui was a great pick. Unfortunately the owner could settle in on a coach. Therefore no one there to tutor the QB while he sits watching GAnnon prepare. Then we bring in Collins which effectively ended Tui’s career.
And all those veterans were at the end of their careers. Kennedy, Romo, Woodson, Rice, Gannon, Brown, all those guys were done within 1 or 2 years leaving the team with nothing. Why? Because Al Davis can’t draft AND he was relying on other teams dumping their aging stars (which didn’t happen)!
All of the above began the 6 year (and counting) trek through Hell that we are on right now. Enjoy the view!
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The Raiders had a different philosophy back then. The Raiders weren’t trying to build the entire team through the draft like the last few years. Tui was a great pick? I don’t know about that, but Collins was brought in a back-up to Gannon in case Gannon went down which was a great move. Collins as a starter not my choice, but as a back-up to Gannon good idea. All those veterans were at the end of their careers?
First of all Kennedy, Romo, Woodson, Rice, Gannon, and Brown were not done and we got some very productive, winning years out of all of them. Kennedy played for several years only shorted by injury. Romo was let go due to a fight with a back-up TE, Rod Woodson suffered a bad injury, and Rice and Brown were both hated on and forced off the team at the start of the youth movement crap. Also please don’t forget that the above list was just a few of the proven vet’s that made up that winning team. Did you forget about RB Charlie Garner, LB William Thomas, RB Tyrone Wheatley, G Steve Wisniewski, TE Roland Williams, G Frank Middleton, FB Zack Crockett, CB Eric Allen, DE Trace Armstrong, and RB Terry Kirby. This Raider team was a veteran team and a winning team. What did they leave the Raiders with you ask…..they left the Raiders with a winning culture and attitude. Something the youth movement hasn’t done. So, no I’m not enjoying the view, but unlike many here I didn’t like the view when I first saw the culture changing on the team.
Several older veteran players expressed their concerns as they were being shown the door and were easily brushed off as old disgruntle players not ready to let go. I said it was bull then and I’m still saying it’s some bull now. The Raider draft should be to do whatever is necessary to get Jordan Gross, Julius Peppers, Tra Thomas or Marvel Smith, Terrell Suggs, Albert Haynesworth, T.J Houshmandzadeh, and Amani Toomer. Now that would be a real draft that could turn this team around. I know we can’t get all these players, but these are the type of players that we should be going after. Depending on the draft to build this team has been a disaster.
Big AL needs drafting help, but even with help it’s still a major gamble. Many here loved the Raiders draft the last two years, (you couldn’t tell from the negative talk, but it’s true most here loved the players the Raiders selected the last two years yet all you read, hindsight knowledge, is how horrible the players are. Now people are starting their draft campaigns again only to forget what they said and how they felt about a player before he was drafted. D.Bing is a perfect example.
December 10th, 2008 at 8:53 am
I am sorry to say this, but I could very easily end up being the WORST draft pick in Raiders history. Yes, the worst, even over Patrick Bates and Anthony Smith.
December 10th, 2008 at 8:55 am
I hope Nnambdi breaks both of Moss’ legs and it’s a career ending injury and Moss can NEVER play another down of football again. Then he goes into bankruptcy, loses everything and all his money, then ends up working as a Janitor like Dakota at Mt. Rushmore monument.
December 10th, 2008 at 9:03 am
Ever since K was fired, the Faiders have been going down hill all the way. Funny thing is Cable and Ryan, are saying, as they pat each other on their backs, “Things have improved”, “we are moving the ball and stopping the run”………….Truth is there has been zero improvement at all, things have gotten worse. Just log on to NFL Stats, stats don’t lie as Cable and Ryan do……….. Al Bundy Davis has been asking one of the Raider Greatest of all time, to contact potential coaches, that have not returned Bundys calls. One call was returned to the Greatest of all Time, he said no way, and went on and told The Greatest to stay away ! The Greatest of all time is calling another potential coach as I’m here in his home, a NFL TV Analyst, a former NFL QB in fact, the Greatest Raider of all time, just gets his voice mail, for the 4th time………………
Just sell Baby…………and so it is !!
December 10th, 2008 at 9:06 am
JBR -
Moss already has a lucrative business selling fruit juice or some crap like that. Plus he has ties to nascar and bass fishing. He’s ready for life after football.
He finally realized his dream of becoming rich off of lemonade stands. You could tell his passion was never football. That’s just what he was good at.
December 10th, 2008 at 9:07 am
POST 216 Bull Sh!t. You pathetic liar. Anybody can spew anything. Take the kotex out of your azz, it goes in your vag1na retard.
December 10th, 2008 at 9:08 am
RR
lol. Lemonade stands. Probably was his passion when he was a po boy on da streets. What a moron.
December 10th, 2008 at 9:10 am
“Ever since K was fired”
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things were terrible BEFORE Kiffin was here, WHILE Kiffin was here and now AFTER Kiffin is gone.
“the Faiders” ? really? are you a donkey fan? get lost clownboy…
December 10th, 2008 at 9:11 am
I am hungry for fish filet.
December 10th, 2008 at 9:11 am
My boyfriends former lovers next door neighbors cousin who does the nails of guy who knows this delivery man that talks to a homo that walks the streets who gives head to this guy that knows somebody said that Al Davis is trying to find a coach, and nobody will return his calls so he hired a great raider to make the calls, but the guys friends cousin said he doesn’t like the way I suck d1ck because I don’t massage the balls so he wont tell me.
Just sell Baby…………and so it is !!
December 10th, 2008 at 9:13 am
LOL @ #222 … i KNEW he was a donk fan!
December 10th, 2008 at 9:15 am
and a cok fan
December 10th, 2008 at 9:16 am
I stroke the shaft like none other
December 10th, 2008 at 9:28 am
What up clowns?
December 10th, 2008 at 9:38 am
No clowns in the house I see.
December 10th, 2008 at 9:39 am
Davis shills?
December 10th, 2008 at 9:39 am
Sheeples?
December 10th, 2008 at 9:40 am
Chaos,
spider will be here later to proclaim Tatum Bell as the best thing since sliced bread.
December 10th, 2008 at 9:44 am
Yeah but I am feeling tired today and wanted to screw around with the Davis crowd.
December 10th, 2008 at 9:44 am
Get the blood boilin……..Coffee is not working.
December 10th, 2008 at 9:46 am
well … hmmm
If you can find anything pro Davis in my posts from #185 – #210 feel free to discuss or debate. I’ve been in & out of here all morning. still managed to get all my work done & now it’s lunch time. whoop whoop
December 10th, 2008 at 9:47 am
Coffee is not working
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stop drinking decaf man! try folgers columbian
December 10th, 2008 at 9:48 am
# Hwnrdr Says:
December 10th, 2008 at 6:56 am
Hey Holyroller,
With the ridiculous salary that Russell is getting, he could take all of us fans out for steak and cough up the whole bill…You are right, though. He needs to step up and become a leader…
……………………..
Russell needs to stay away from the steakhouse. If he takes his O-line there too much, he will be playing on the o-line next season.
Maybe they should all go to Subway.
December 10th, 2008 at 9:51 am
Dude, I had an awesome workout this morning too. I just don’t get it.
December 10th, 2008 at 9:52 am
K-Rock:
maybe Kiffin had Russell & Sands in mind when he had the team on a veggie diet during the offseason? Too bad these guys don’t have self discipline. They are keeping Krispy Kreme in business!
December 10th, 2008 at 9:52 am
Raiders need to draft an OT & DT, and then sign a veteran QB to push Russell.
And oh yeah, somehow find a competent Head Coach. (More chance of me having sex with Jessica Alba)
December 10th, 2008 at 9:53 am
Walker & kelly were beefy too. I thought Brad Roll was a good strength & conditioning coach?
He got Ron Curry in the weight room for the first time in his life …
December 10th, 2008 at 9:58 am
Rockstar:
Raiders and self-discipline do not go together.
Raiders get beat up in Vegas while doing drug deals.
Raiders commit penalties like its a Pro-Bowl Stat.
Raiders go to Mexico and get all farked up the night before the Super Bowl
Raiders do back flips in the End Zone, slow up and taunt opposing players, and other retarded acts. (Dancing after a tackle while getting beat by 50 points)
December 10th, 2008 at 9:59 am
sign a veteran QB to push Russell
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it’s a good thing we didn’t get Jeff Garcia in 07 or Trent Dilfer in 08. Both would completely outplay Russell in camp and practice. Plus they’d have a better grasp of the playbook, watch film more often and be a better vocal leader. I didn’t even mention accuracy or footwork … maybe it’s a good thing we got Walter & Tui behind Russell? a decent veteran might cause a Kerry Collins/Vince Young situation.
December 10th, 2008 at 9:59 am
post 211 youre welcome =)
December 10th, 2008 at 10:02 am
what do Russell, Walter & Tui all have in common?
zero pocket awareness. turnover prone. zero leadership
December 10th, 2008 at 10:05 am
Al Davis should hire Richard Simmons as a motivational speaker. 1 condition. no short shorts.
and also Dr. Phil , even though he’s not a real doctor, he has common sense. one thing the Raiders (especially management) are sorely lacking …
December 10th, 2008 at 10:05 am
If a vet QB pushed Russell all the way to the bench that would be fine with me.
Perform or go home.
December 10th, 2008 at 10:06 am
be back later … lunch time
December 10th, 2008 at 10:09 am
Dr. Phil was a real Dr.
He gave up his license when he came under investigation. Better to give up the license than face criminal charges.
We talked about that in Marriage & Family Counseling the other day. My professor hates his guts. LOL!
I took my last final today! I graduate Sat. morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 10th, 2008 at 10:12 am
I want CJ on Moss and Ash on Welker, I think that CJ can handle Moss and Welker will get crushed by Ash. after that whose gonna beat us Lamont Jordan??? Might be a fun game to watch after all.
December 10th, 2008 at 10:15 am
Congradulations K-Rock,you ROCK!!!!!!!!!!
December 10th, 2008 at 10:27 am
DT42
CJ couldn’t handle Vincent Jackson but he can handle Moss? Put the pipe down bro.
December 10th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Developing Russell is the right idea! Free agent QBs rarely win Super Bowls. Very rarely. In 42 Super Bowls only 5 free agent QBs have won Super Bowls for their respective teams. Plunkett did get 2!
1. Brad Johnson – Bucs
2. Trent Dilfer (did he really win it?) – Ravens
3. Steve Young – 49ers (former backup for years)
4. Doug Williams – Redskins
5. Jim Plunkett – Raiders (2)
December 10th, 2008 at 10:34 am
FUKK MOSS
December 10th, 2008 at 10:36 am
#247
K-rock, congrats =)
December 10th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Speaking of vet QBs….Kerry Collins, Brett Favre, Chad Pennington and Kurt Warner probably won’t win any Super Bowls for their respective teams. Why?
Collins, Farve and Warner are one and done. Maybe 2 and done. Then those teams will be back at 5-11 to 8-8.
Meanwhile guys like Big Ben, Ryan, Flacco, Mannings, Cutler, Rivers etc… will get several shots at playoff runs and super bowl chances. The more shots you get the better the chance to get a ring.
December 10th, 2008 at 10:41 am
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=29749&season=2008&displayPage=tab_gamecenter
“Streaks
The Raiders have won three of the last four regular-sesaon meetings with the Patriots. The winner of this game will take the lead in the overall series, which is currently tied at 15….Dating back to 1981, the Raiders aim for their fourth consecutive win at home vs. the Patriots.”
“Keep your eye on …
The Pats on the left coast: This week marks New England’s second experiment this season with extended West Coast travel. The team has decided to stay in California to avoid multiple cross country flights both times. The first time around, New England defeated the 49ers then lost to the Chargers the following week. They’ll look to avoid another split this time.
New England’s LBs: Junior Seau was surfing in San Diego before re-signing with the Patriots last week and he may be asked to start vs. the Raiders if Tedy Bruschi sits out with a knee injury. While Seau provides another veteran presence for New England, the 39-year-old veteran appeared slow while defending Seahawks TE John Carlson on his 10-yard touchdown reception last week.
Zach Miller vs. New England’s secondary: Inconsistency at quarterback has led to a woeful year for Oakland’s receivers. But perhaps the only player not affected has been TE Zach Miller,` who leads the team with 45 receptions and 614 yards. Oakland’s next highest totals are are 19 receptions from Darren McFadden and 197 yards from Ashley Lelie. Miller is averaging 13.6 yards per catch this season, and is facing a Patriots secondary that has struggled to defend tight ends.”
December 10th, 2008 at 10:44 am
Perform or go home.
I took my last final today! I graduate Sat. morning
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K-Rock: I agree & congrats!
December 10th, 2008 at 10:48 am
thanks for the good report RAW, but we just lost back to back games against the woeful Chiefs & Chargers. How can we expect to beat the Patriots? Even w/o Brady, Maroney, Harrison, A Thomas & Bruschi they are leading that division …
December 10th, 2008 at 10:50 am
RaiderRockstar
I know, we lost back-to-back games. I just hope we play a competive game and that moss gets blown up by Wilson or Morrision or some person on D.
December 10th, 2008 at 10:52 am
Speaking of vet QBs….Kerry Collins, Brett Favre, Chad Pennington and Kurt Warner probably won’t win any Super Bowls for their respective teams.
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S&B: Titans, Jets, Dolphins & Cardinals. I agree. I don’t see any of those teams winning the big one this year. If the Titans had Favre, then yes.
December 10th, 2008 at 10:56 am
I wish we had a passing game, because then we could exploit the Patriots weak secondary.
December 10th, 2008 at 11:02 am
It would be nice to see Moss get smacked around. Since the Raiders keep one CB on that side of the field the entire game, it’s hard to imagine the Pats not trying to exploit the Johnson on Moss matchup. CJ held up well on Marshall & Bowe. Jackson’s stats were inflated due to that one big play he got on CJ. He failed to make contact at the line of scrimmage on that 59-yard pass from Rivers, then when Jackson sped by him, he couldn’t get his hips turned fast enough. That’s fundamentals of the position.. I think our corners will be ready. Welker in the slot is what worries me. That guy is a first down machine. We better not have Eugene, Wilson or Routt trying to cover him in 3 WR sets!
December 10th, 2008 at 11:03 am
Morning Nation
December 10th, 2008 at 11:03 am
The Raiders had practice today.
Where is the report Jerry?
December 10th, 2008 at 11:07 am
RR
Do they practice?
December 10th, 2008 at 11:12 am
Sup Dirty??? =)
December 10th, 2008 at 11:14 am
El Dirty:
The Raiders defense probably looks like 11 pro bowlers compared to our offense in practice. The offense can run the ball i’m sure, because our d can’t stop the run. Curry & Lelie aren’t even starter quality receivers, so i’m sure they present no challenge at all for Johnson & Asomugha. Zach Miller might be tearing it up if the line can hold up for 3 seconds so Russell can get the ball out. practice play selection probablt goe like this
1st down – Fargas gains 4 yards
2nd down – Fargas gains 4 yards
3rd down – Russell throws the ball behind his receiver
4th down – punt
next series:
1st down – Fargas gains 5 yards
2nd down – Fargas gains 3 yards
3rd down – Russell overthrows his receiver
4th down – fake punt. loss of 10 yards
December 10th, 2008 at 11:15 am
4eva
How’s it going?
December 10th, 2008 at 11:16 am
RR
STuuuuupid! LMAO!
December 10th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Dirty I’m doing fine 2day.I ran out of work at work so I dont go back till the 22nd.I guess thats what ya get 4 workin hard: kitchen equipment hasnt shown up yet so sit home.Ahh the life of a commercial plumber =)How are you???
December 10th, 2008 at 11:20 am
Found this a few ago and all I thought about was MR and Oak Glenn
http://i8.tinypic.com/6girlsg.jpg
December 10th, 2008 at 11:22 am
Living the dream! Went home played cards with some friends then we went to Old Town and drant till 2 and then had a night cap with that pic I posted yesterday. Then everything went bad… I woke up! ugh… I feel like crap
December 10th, 2008 at 11:24 am
This is a cool one
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u83/jst8761/rd/rn6.jpg
December 10th, 2008 at 11:25 am
Do the damn Thing!
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g69/darkknight_13us/102206gallery-TheOaklandRaidersdefe.jpg
December 10th, 2008 at 11:25 am
Bill Belichek vs. Tom Cable
Josh McDaniels vs. Greg Knapp / Tom Cable
Bill Belichek vs. Rob Ryan
Nuff said
December 10th, 2008 at 11:29 am
RaiderRockstar,
Favre on Tennessee would be something interesting. I bet that Tennessee wishes Vince Young was playing to standard though. Or wish that Kerry Collins was a few years younger. Tennessee reminds me of Baltimore a couple of years ago with Steve McNair. The Ravens went 14-2 with McNair and lost a close game to Indy.
The next year the team collapsed as McNair wore down and Boller busted.
December 10th, 2008 at 11:33 am
S&B
I dont think the Titans Defense is that good and Kerry still sucks. That fools been sippen on the Whiskey and is living his alcoholic dream! (Sorry still bitter with kerry)
December 10th, 2008 at 11:34 am
those were great post Dirty especially 270 =)
December 10th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Its going to be The Ravens and the Steelers in the AFC Championship… WHO WINS THAT GAME?
December 10th, 2008 at 11:35 am
Matt Cassells father passed away. UH OH! Remember what happened the last time a QB facing us in Oakland lost his father? (FAVRE)
We are doomed!
December 10th, 2008 at 11:35 am
B-E-E-R R-U-N {FOSTERS-BABY!!!}
December 10th, 2008 at 11:37 am
4eva
I had to smile on those pics. It makes my head stop hurting.
December 10th, 2008 at 11:44 am
in a game it goes like this:
1st & 10 – Fargas gains 2 yards
2nd & 8 – HOLDING. 10 yard penalty
2nd & 18 – 5 yard pass to Miller
3rd & 13 – false start. 5 yard penalty
3rd & 18 – Russell throws the ball at his receiver’s feet
4th & 18 – punt
December 10th, 2008 at 11:46 am
RaiderRockstar you should replace Greg Papa and Plunk. Because you hare clairvoyant.
December 10th, 2008 at 11:49 am
“Moss engendered very little ill-will amongst his teammates despite an obvious lack of effort. Curry said he would remember Moss as No. 18, the number he wore in Oakland.
“Randy was great in the locker room. He was great to be around,” Curry said. “I’d take him any day. He was a good person.”
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Once again, this shows the lack of leaders on this team. The actual Oakland Raidahs that many of us on this board came to know, love, and simply revere wouldn’t have given a rat’s ^%$ ’bout whether Moss was “a good person”. If he showed the lack of effort and heart back then that he showed here in Oaktown they would have gotten rid of him for Big Al. No questions asked. Boy, today’s pampers-wearing, fraudulent jocks…..
And so long as well to Ronald Curry and the rest of that bunch of frauds wearing the Silver And Black. Good riddance!
December 10th, 2008 at 11:49 am
new post!
December 10th, 2008 at 11:51 am
The Father of Matt Cassell, die yesterday, so, expect another 5 td performance a la Favre.
December 10th, 2008 at 11:58 am
“# KoolKell Says:
December 9th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
No doubt. I’m just saying, players aren’t going to kill themselves in a hopeless situation. Particularly in a sport where injury can end your career in a heartbeat.
We seem to hold athletes to a higher standard than the Bush Crime Family, War Profiteers, Wall Street Bank Robbers, CEO’s taking a 10 million dollar “bonus’” while laying off thousands.
But everybody in front of their monitors here is holier than thou, and absolutely Indignant with a black athelete wearing fur coat, perceived to be making too much money, just terribly indignant, huff!”
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KoolKell,
I do hold the Bush Crime Family et al more responsible and to a MUCH higher standard. Jess that this ain’t the thread for that airing, ya’ dig?;-)
December 10th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
post those dreds Brien
December 10th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
new post ladies
December 10th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
I am fed up with the Raiders being the laughing stock of the NFL. I am asking the local media to start calling for Al Davis to step aside; we fans need your help.
Thank you
Dean
December 10th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
If JaMarcus doesn’t come into camp weighing 240 lbs after busting his azz on the Walter Payton workout this offseason and studying the hell out of the playbook….bench his fatazz and hope like hell some vet (besides McCown) takes the backup job with the clear directive that he can compete to start….and let the chips fall where they may…Al will still be alive so it wont matter Ronald McDonald will probably be coaching the team next year
December 11th, 2008 at 10:50 am
All of you (if you are real Rader fans) who give Al Davis a hard time should be ashamed of yourselves. I understand the dumb f-cks are going to come to our sites and say dumb stuff, but the real fans need to man up. Al has over the years given you one of the top 6 winning teams in the 32 team NFL and this is how you repay him. I know all of you who wish bad things on him will receive bad things 3 fold. Especially those who wish death or harm on him for the sake of football. If the team had ended up winning this year, all the same stupid people would probably be calling him the man because of the off season transactions. But because some of the transactions did not pan out you are bashing. You stupid people need to get a life. All teams have gone through bad times. The Raiders remain tied in 3rd place with three SB wins/six appearances. They have even with these bad five years more conference championships than any other team in the AFC possible the NFL. If you are loyal fans, support the team through the good times and the bad, and stop bashing. I stood right in front of Al Davis in Baltimore, and listened to him say that he is going to get this team turned around and I believe him. I support Al and the Raiders no matter what.
• Teams that have never played in a Super Bowl:
o Cleveland Browns
o Houston Texans
o Jacksonville Jaguars
o Detroit Lions
o New Orleans Saints
o Arizona Cardinals
• Teams that have never won a Super Bowl:
o Buffalo Bills
o Cincinnati Bengals
o Cleveland Browns
o Houston Texans
o Jacksonville Jaguars
o Tennessee Titans
o San Diego Chargers
o Philadelphia Eagles
o Detroit Lions
o Minnesota Vikings
o Atlanta Falcons
o Carolina Panthers
o New Orleans Saints
o Arizona Cardinals
o Seattle Seahawks
o
o The most Super Bowl wins is five – a record shared by the San Francisco 49ers, the Dallas Cowboys, and the Pittsburgh Steelers
o The second most Superbowl wins is three – a record shared by the Oakland Raiders, New England Patriots, Green Bay Packers, and the Washington Redskins.
Of the seven teams here are their winning percentages over their history:
Oakland .599%
Dallas .573%
San Francisco .565%
Green Bay .559%
Washington .522%
Pittsburg .502%
New England .492%
Raider for life.
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[...]A Raiders and Moss reunion – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group[...]…
March 16th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
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[...]A Raiders and Moss reunion – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group[...]…
March 27th, 2012 at 8:01 am
[...] cumulative effect will be obvious. Not only will Moss display his abilities unencumbered (just ask Charles Woodson), but he will also make those around him [...]