Cable stakes his claim
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, December 28th, 2008 at 1:32 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raider Nation, Cable’s your guy.
There is simply no other conclusion Al Davis can reach than to remove the “interim” from the job title of Tom Cable and make him the head coach of the Raiders for 2009 and beyond.
All Cable did was step in to the most impossible job situation in the NFL and deliver the hope of real progress in the last two games of a lost season.
A 31-24 win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Sunday at Raymond James Stadium was the most rousing Raiders sendoff since 1999, when they embarked on a three-year run of AFC West titles with a 41-38 overtime win over the Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium.
It so happens that the coach that day, Jon Gruden, so jubilant at the Chiefs demise at Arrowhead, was the one who walked off the field Sunday with the knowledge that his team lost four straight games to end the season and is out of the playoffs at 9-7.
That Chiefs game happens to be the only time since the Raiders came back from Los Angeles in 1995 that they won a game after Dec. 1 outside of the state of California.
To put it mildly, the Raiders have gone into a turtle position in the season’s final month, which makes what Cable has done all the more impressive.
Considering the mess Cable walked in to, a disaster which former coach Lane Kiffin and Davis share equal blame, he couldn’t have done much more.
After back-to-back losses to San Diego and New England, Cable may have been the only one who believed it when he insisted he saw progress. It’s hard not to believe him now.
When the clock ticked to zero against the Bucs, Cable thrust his arms into the air in victory. Right next to him was unrestricted free agent Nnamdi Asomugha, doing the same thing.
It’s worth noting that Asomugha has seen nothing like the last two weeks since he joined the Raiders in 2003, the start of their six-year demise. Punter Shane Lechler, who played a key role keeping the Bucs in bad field position, surely saw a difference as well.
If Davis makes Cable the head coach, Asomugha, all but out the door mentally and looking for a way to force a trade if franchised, may suddenly want to stay on and enjoy the ride. It could give Lechler second thoughts as well.
If Davis picks anyone else, it’s simply another change _ one coming after back-to-back games the likes of which haven’t been seen since the AFC championship game season in 2002.
Neither Bill Callahan in Year 2, Norv Turner, Art Shell or Kiffin ever had teams which were more resilient and tough for eight consecutive quarters of football.
Cable promised to be a “no excuses” coach, and it was never more evident than in beating Tampa Bay.
Asomugha was inactive with a neck injury, leaving Stanford Routt as the starter along with Chris Johnson and return specialist Justin Miller as the third corner.
Justin Fargas and Darren McFadden came into the game injured and couldn’t finish.
So what happened?
Michael Bush, who has been reluctant to embrace playing fullback, went out and made his case for being a tailback with a 177-yard, 27-carry, 2 touchdown performance that carred him to exhaustion and beyond.
Perhaps the most important reason to keep Cable is that under his watch, JaMarcus Russell validated his No. 1 pick status in the last two games of the season.
Think back to the day Kiffin was given the boot via overhead projector, and Davis saying that he thought Russell was a special player who needed to be turned loose.
With Cable has head coach, Russell grew up in his last two games. First was a nearly flawless performance in a 27-16 win over a Houston team on a four-game winning streak.
The win over Tampa Bay brought with it a different lesson. Russell survived a big interception, returned 85 yards by Sabby Piscatelli, that led to a Bucs touchdown and a 24-14 lead.
He brought the Raiders right back, with the help of a 43-yard pass interference penalty engineered on a halfback option pass call made by Cable.
I talked with one player this week in casual conversation who was making a case for Cable staying on, in part because of his ability to keep the team together “after Lane quit on us.”
I’m guessing the postgame locker room will have no shortage of Cable supporters. I’m also guessing he’s got one back home named Al Davis, watching on television.
Davis usually takes his time with these things, but if he’s smart, he’ll satisfy the Rooney Rule in short order and make Cable his coach.
More to come later this afternoon . . .
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December 28th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Do everything possable RESIGN LECHLER
December 28th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
I’ll bet Cable still gets fired…4-8. He needed to go 6-6 or better to win this job.
December 28th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
repost for the pansy….
Hey MR the only problem I see with swallowing is your mommy. Of course I can’t blame her with the Peter North loads I’ve been shooting down her throat…What makes Cable a puppet? That he actually has produced big wins instead of whining incessantly like Kiffin did? And Gruden not on his A game today? LOL@ u! Bogged down in the red zone, no imagination in play calling, can’t beat Norv Turner, and now no Tamper defense to bail him out. F-ing pathetic.
December 28th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
The offense has made a case for itself as of late.
QB – Russell has improved.
RB – Bush proved himself and McFadden is a playmaker.
FB – A healthy Griffith and/or O’Neal make it good.
WR – JLH and Schilens make things more competitive.
TE – Miller is JR’s savior.
OL – Henderson makes the draft interesting.
December 28th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
By the way, I was on the Bucs message boards, they were giving Russell big ups. They seem to think he’ll be pretty good
December 28th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
What do the Raiders and the Super Bowl Champs have in common? They both will win their last game in Tampa.
Great win!
Keep Cable
Do not resign Rob Ryan
Keep Lechler
Keep or trade 21
Trade Fargas, Burgess
Drop Walker, Harris, Lelie
Draft WR, DT, OT, MLB
December 28th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Damn Jerry, I think you have a Cable man-crush.
December 28th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Interesting read on Parcells being able to opting out of his contract, and team on HIS radar include the Oakland Raiders.
it’s on ESPN I would post the link but can’t.
That would be freaking awesome.
December 28th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Florida Pete in disguise Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
since the super bowl season…
Gruden is a sub-.500 coach…
he’s not special…
but ending this season with 2 wins is special…
this team is turning it around…
so allow me to be the first to say it…
next year: super bowl baby !!!
oh, and who gives two schits if Cable is Davis’ puppet…
results matter…
and what i saw today in the second half was the most enjoyable football i’ve seen in years…
Raiders… for life !!!
December 28th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Without a doubt, Cable deserves to be CONSIDERED for the HC job. Not saying he should be in right away, but Al must consider him.
December 28th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Cable is a moron still. If he was any damn good the younger WR start long ago, Farglass sits and Henderson plays over Harris. also Grove sucks I can care less what any of you punks say
December 28th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Cables, has put a good team together you have to give him a long term chance to get a new D-cord. and his own O-Cord. and see what happens.
December 28th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Al Davis, please, if you decide to hire another 3-4 DC, like Ryan, let him run his system and get him the players he needs instead of force feeding him your scheme.
December 28th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
This is a good point. If we want any chance in keeping Lechler and Asomugha, Cable will have to stay, otherwise, they will just see another change that could hinder the team and they won’t want to go through it again.
December 28th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Cable is stupid as hell
December 28th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
But usually stupid people have the most heart
December 28th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
brien hates anyone who does good for the Raiders.
December 28th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Cable is not a head coach. He is an idiot. He could have saved the Raiders season but he was insisting on starting trash like Walker,Farglass,Harris and Lelie. Al do the right thing get a GM and let the GM get his own coach. Cable aint shyt
December 28th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
JaMarcus Russell in last 3 games against (Pats, Texans and Bucs)
49-78 63% 626 YDS 6 tds 3 ints
That’s our quarterback out there. And as long as he gets consistent coaching AND playmakers on the field with him…he will show the league why he was a number 1 pick!
December 28th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Brian true, but you dont let a guy with a HUGE contract ride the pine.
December 28th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Funny…At this point, I’m ok with Cable as Head Coach but if Parcells comes here and wants someone else, I’d have to go with any decision Parcells makes.
December 28th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
I hate Johnnie Lee higgins? I hate Chaz Schilens? I hate Michael Bush? I hate Mario Henderson? All the guys I just named I yelled for them to play more all year, so fugg yourself you bleeding pu$$y
December 28th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
If he is sucking he needs to ride the pine Unknown. Its about wins and them guys aint winners
December 28th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Man you guys are spoiling this victory with your negativity. You guys are ruining my buzz, i am out
December 28th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Huff…….exactly
December 28th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
brien, this is one of the ONLY games in the last 5-6 years that we have won in december. Your the idiot, you have no idea about football, your a hater who wants the Raiders to lose.
You need to go bunk up with the likes of…..
Mike Shannahan.
Mike Lombardi
Lane Kiffin
go hug your haters.
December 28th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
the team will play 4 Cable.Say a big HELLO 2 our new HC NATION,his name is Tom Cable.Who woulda thunk it ???
December 28th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
YES!!!YYYEEEEEESSSSS!!!
(that is all)…
December 28th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
If Jacksonville wins we get the # 7 pick, if Jacksonville and Seattle win we could get the #6 pick.
December 28th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Shawnraiders81 Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
brien, this is one of the ONLY games in the last 5-6 years that we have won in december. Your the idiot, you have no idea about football, your a hater who wants the Raiders to lose.
You need to go bunk up with the likes of…..
Mike Shannahan.
Mike Lombardi
Lane Kiffin
go hug your haters.
This is a post from an idiot who doesnt come on alot. Everyone knows what you are saying is quite off, I’d spit in your face you punk
December 28th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Among the teams sources say are on Parcells’ radar are the New York Jets, Detroit Lions, Cleveland Browns and the Oakland Raiders. However, if Parcells’ son-in-law, New England Patriots vice president Scott Pioli, is interested in any of those jobs, Parcells is unlikely to wind up with that team, Mortensen reported.
December 28th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Cable should be our coach, bring in a good OC to work with him and Jamarcus. Cable is the leader we need for this team, the players respect him and respond to him. We need consistency, he is probably the only coach that can work with Al Davis. Jamarcus had gotten better with him each game, now we just need to figure out how to use all three of our backs, Bush is the man!
December 28th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
i’ve decided to remove my disguise…
i don’t think it was working that well anyway…
so…
i’m back !!!!
December 28th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Dakota, how does it feel to ALWAYS BE WRONG?
Go Raiders!
December 28th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
The raiders fought back from adversity this day. When they were down 10 points they didn’t give up. They kept fighting. Bush is a monster just like a Brandon Jacobs. But a little faster. He should be the legit starter next year with a moderate dose of Mcfadden in the mix. We have the tools for next year. I think we will turn the corner next year and never turn back. 177 yards for Bush is amazing. Lets resign Namdi for sure and get that bone crushing OLB from Wake Forest and were set. WR in the second and we got a chance.
December 28th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Brien, everyone knows you in this blog. Everyone knows your a hater, you never have anything good to say and above all your an idiot.
I think I have alot more respect around here than you do, and yes i’m not on all the time, I have a job and a family. try getting a live and if you don’t and just blog all the time try to act like a non-hater.
December 28th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Getting a “life”
December 28th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
what we need next year is the same thing we needed this year…
and last year…
and the year before that…
an honest to god, one-eyed, giraffe eating, middle linebacker…
December 28th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Well I gotta say that the Cable guy has just put Al in a fragile situation about deciding on the head coaching job. Has Cable done that good of a job, or were those games we were supposed to win anyway? The decision is probably gonna split Raider Nation right down the middle just like the Kiffin circus did a few months ago. Maybe Im crazy,,but there’s still something about Cable that makes me nervous. Oh well,, Let the coaching carousel begin.
December 28th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
yeah but, what about the falcons game? the charger game? the six other games he lost?
December 28th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Ray M is it then. we need to get him. Hey 5-11 is baby steps and that better than anything else.
December 28th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Awesome!!!
“BUSH WHACKED!” Raider reseerve Running back Rumbles!
http://www.raidernationstation.com/
December 28th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Way to much negativity in here after a great win. Can’t we all just enjoy the season ending on a good note and giving us hope for next year?
December 28th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Wrong aboput what? Cable? 4-8 and he is the man? Okay, we’ll see won’t we?
December 28th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
guys im not a big cable fan….. but wining is all that maters. and he has brought this team together.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
39. Cable did a fine job considering the hats he had to wear after “Lance’s” untimely departure.
Benched some under performaers and actually MOTIVATED these guys to WIN!
Plus, he’s always been a hige Raider fan.
I’d like to see what he can do in 09 with some help. Some of the bishes jumped ship for a chance with “Lance”.
Get some decent help in there for him and who knows…
December 28th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Good to hear.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
If Cable stays who is offensive coordinator next year? He can’t be HC/OC and OL coach again next season.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
The Raiders (Al Davis) has to bring Cable back as the head coach. I was a big critic of Cable after the Chiefs game and for his use of DMAC and Henderson. But this is a young team and they play for this guy. Plus, Al Davis is not really good at picking head coaches. So if they get rid of Cable, who’s coming in? Another Mike White or Norv Turner? Screw taking a chance on that.
Cable is a good motivator that can get the team up and ready to play. Bring him back AND give him the free reign to bring in his own coordinators.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
nfl network is going to talk raiders-bucs next…tune in and watch Gruden’s press conference …
December 28th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
F’in Raiders looked good because they OVER CAME Russell’s inevitable mistake.
The “rook” seems to blow it once or twice a game like McNabb or Favre and just chink a play or two. Raiders mangaed to get it done anyway.
Yes!
December 28th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Next year we turn the corner as long as we have a solid draft like 2007 we will grow leaps and bounds.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Revenge for the Super Bowl? Not really, but it is kind of significant as a symbol of moving in the right direction maybe.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
52. Its a question of whether we need to use some extra picks to get a DB to replace Nnamdi…
December 28th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Damn, Garcia looks like his aids cocktail is taking its toll!
December 28th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
I don’t understand all this negativity.
This is the biggest Raider win in six years.
Some of you think that Al is going to turn over this franchise to some unknown GM, that ain’t going to happen.
Cable believes in this team and the players are responding.
This is as good as you’re going to get with Al in control.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
McNabb and Favre are gunslingers who are going to take some risks which could be bad but have a higher chance of reward. If Russell becomes like them, then all the Raiders need it playmakers on Offense (which they have) and a Defense that is smothering and sound for the Raiders to be something special.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
IMO if Al Davis wants to hire Cable(he should) then he should also be exempt from the Rooney rule, we had the first hispanic coach, first black coach, first female CEO and Davis never cares about color as his record proves.
also IMO, as an assistant for the 49ers, I dont think Singletary should count as the minority interview(i hate the 9ers), just my opinion, if the Raiders have to interview someone else, the 49ers should have to also.
Bush should start next year over Fargas with D-Mac assuming the same role as this year.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Great Win!
Russell looks great
Why couldn’t they mix Bush before? Oh yeah they wanted him to play fullback.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Hey Jamarcus aint perfect and he was pulled by a facemask on the previous play by Gaines Adams. Cable should of called a run play after that penalty. Jamarcus was probably woosey from that face mask. MBUSH should start and mcfadden as the spell back. He has the size to be an every down back in the NFL. Plus on a good note the OLINE was in sync that whole game kudos to them in pushing around the weak tampa bay dline around. These guys are going to be monsters. And who do we have to give the credit is CABLE. He turned this sorry OLINE around and made them contenders.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
To the trolls: Please stop using my name!!!
December 28th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Cable STAYS,period!Ryan,not so sure,Al must bring in a GM,proud of this team effort,see you all next year,HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 28th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Now the real fun begins,, now we all get to talk about the DRAFT!!! Gentlemen,,,start your engines!! Skrrrrrrr!!!!!
December 28th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Like I said before! Bush is playing that position because of the injuries!!
Peyton Hillis played tailback because of injuries at tailback!!
Do u people finally get it!!
December 28th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Troy Aikman just gave the Raiders a big thumbs-up for going on the road and beating Tampa. Said it was a very impressive win for us.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Damn, I wanted to see Gruden talk, not the fairy QB.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
What about a new Def coach?
Do you guys think we keep Cable(off improved) and get a new Def coach, cause def hasn’t done much in 5 years.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Dakota, do the Jags AND the Seattle need to win to get the 6th pick due to strength of schedule? If they both lose, does that put the Raiders at the 8th spot?
December 28th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Wow Harris doesnt play, old ass WR onthe nech or hurt and Farglass doesnt get many carries and you win………..go figure Al!!!
December 28th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
The most impressive part of the gam to me is that they overcame a 10 point deficit late in the game.
Russell will turn the corner next year.
Bush/DMAC should be used like Tennessee uses White and Johnson
Higgins and Schillens should be the 1/2 or 2/3 QBs. Leave Javon Walker on the bench. Curry, Lelie out of here!
Miller will be in the pro-bowl next year
Chris Johnson is a pleasant surprise
Henderson is good enough to start at LT…If the Raiders can get a beast tackle in the draft then put him at left or right
GEt a new defensive coordinator
December 28th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
52. Its a question of whether we need to use some extra picks to get a DB to replace Nnamdi
They will resign Nnamdi to a long term contract. There is no other CB like him that plays exellent press coverage and man to man skills like him. He is by far the best corner in the NFL. Just imagine if he was playing today. There would be no one for Garcia to throw to and this game would of been over by the third quarter. He is the best and you just dont let the best go and thats for sure. Especially home grown talent. He was a free safety and now he the premiere corner in this league.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Nnamdi21 (post 46),
Exactly. Cable made some bone headed calls (fake FG, anyone?), but realized late (beter late than never) that Kwame should not be in the NFL, that DMac must be used right away, and somehow get Bush out there (today’s performance may have solidified him as a starter next year). He turned that losing mentality around, which we all knew took some time. The Raiders were down 10 in the 4th and never gave up (like seasons past), and actually held on to win.
Our D was suspect today, but played when needed to. Basically agreeing with Jerry on this one. Cable has won 4 games. Not the best coaching record, but has motivated the players to win when all hope seemed lost. Come on guys, Tampa Bay has a good defense, no matter what Monte Kiff has done to their hopes. We beat a team needing a win to get in to the playoffs. And of course, we beat Chuckie in his house. I say Cable should seriously get consideration, unless of course, Parcells comes here and disagrees. For today and onto next year…Go Raiders!!!
December 28th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Damn, I wanted to see Gruden talk, not the fairy QB.
Wow Dakota………..Fairy QB from what team?
December 28th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Only 5 wins, but I the season ends on a high note. Good pathway into the off-season.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Cable has always been a good o line coach. I was a bit skeptical of him as the head coach and still am a bit but the players are behind him and playing for him so he should get the chance next year. I think we need to see a dose of Bush and Mcfadden next year. Give Bush the most carries, let Mcfadden have a few touches, and continue to send him out as a wideout as well. Im still sticking to my pick of Ray M mlb in the draft. We need a solid mlb to unify the defense. Aso and lech need to be resigned. Then dt, o line, and possibly another wr via draft or fa
December 28th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Bush is playing because of injury, that is true.
But he proves that he is worth more than a 3rd string back.
When was the last time a RB put those number?
Oh yeah against the chief Mac Fadden and BUSH exploded the Chief, both of them.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Trade Fargas.. not Bush
December 28th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Naw Kell, I’m pissed, if Al didnt worry about lettin these high priced bums play over the young guys we might have won the division
December 28th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Ryan Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Dakota, do the Jags AND the Seattle need to win to get the 6th pick due to strength of schedule? If they both lose, does that put the Raiders at the 8th spot?
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Ryan, I don’t know what the tie breakers are for draft position…but if Jacksonville wins we get no worse than the #7 pick. If Seattle wins, we will be tied with 5-11 records.
Not looking good for Jacksonville.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Could the curse be broken finally? i hope so, I still think Cable is shaky at times with his decision making with his trickery (Sea Bass Fake FG anyone?), but he has gotten this team to FINALLY play hard again, and I’m willing to let it ride for another year, I like the progress the team was making the last few weeks, especially Russell. Because without him, we ain’t got Sh!t. Brien, one thing I will agree with you, we do need a real damn center, Grove needs to go, I liked this guy coming out of college, but he has proven himself to be soft, injury prone and we just need a true team leader in the middle of that line. Post #6, agree 100% with you!
December 28th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
“It began with Tampa Bay, maybe it ends with Tampa Bay.”
as a friend said.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
I would bet MB gets offensive player of the week.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Raider DK, I agree, I don’t think we can keep all 3 RBs and keep them happy, one has to go, obviously McFadden isn’t going anywhere, and if it is between Fargas and Bush, I like Bush!
December 28th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Keep Cable…….end of discussion
December 28th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
As much as I hate to loose him If he wants to go Franchise him and try to trade him to the Cards for Boldin
December 28th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
We need a lower draft pick!!! Forget those highpriced flops!! We could use the extra money for free agents!!
December 28th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Cable could be the next Madden! If Al is smart enough to see the improvements since the Miami game.
All we needed was WR with heart. Think Tim Brown.
The high-priced WR need to show up or leave.
Rob Ryan needs to be more consistent.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
And lets give credit to that offensive line….i dont care who was running the ball, they did a hell of a job. Kept running right even when Tampa knew it was coming
December 28th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
I think this is JaMarcus Russell’s team now. And they’ll play for him and each other.
Pink or white fur notwithstanding.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
GRIM (post 82),
I thought that too, but that running back in Atlanta has over 200 yeards rushing and that running back in Carolina has about 10 more yards than Bush. However, I think that Bush played a more valuable part with the Raiders winning, though.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
PA-RAIDER, rightly said! that O-Line has shown up lately, and I can’t believe Harris continued to play over Henderson, ’cause he’s showing he’s a much better player and smarter too (disregard the Stanford education for Harris).
December 28th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Great way to finish the year, but of course, talk about questions half answered.
are jlh and chaz the real deal? do you try to get a play making wr in the early in the draft or do you stick it out with these two guys. not to mention the cap crazy javon walker who you can’t release because of his cap hit.
when looking at the 3 rbs, who is your best bet to start every week and who has the most talent? fargus is a fan favorite, but even before this year, it’s pretty much an agreed point he just can’t stay healthy for 16 regular season games. is that really a featured back? one who punishes his body so much and can’t really catch the ball? how good is mcskinny really? would he possibly be better at wr or a mix and match wr/rb combo and not a full time back? what about bush? when he hasnt’ been in the apparent doghouse and actually gets on the field and gets some real burn, he produces and produces how you can imagine a full time starter would. in the 4th quartar, you know fargus isn’t going to be able to bang it out play after play after play cause of how he treats his body. mcskinny? we simply don’t know what he really can do inside the tackles or outside even. not when everyone knows he’ll be getting the ball every single time. bush? well, against kc and now tampa, well…that was pretty impressive. do you entertain the thought of trading one of these 3 rbs for either draft picks or cap flexibility? is super mario good enough to not have to draft another ot high in the 1st round? can you try to address the right tackle spot later in the draft or fa? is nnamdi out the door or will he stay and for how much? if he goes, then now what, you have to address the position he just vacated. again, draft or fa or what?
if he in fact stays, how much is that going to cost big al? will that in turn affect oakland’s ability to address other needs in the draft or fa? the d-line? blehh. who will replace rex’s lesser twin? will it be the same system? do you get a run stuffing d-tackle or hoep that kelly will be better one season removed from his knee ouchy. is morrison a true mlb difference maker or is he more of a high empty numbers type of player. i.e. c woodson with all those at the end of the half/tipped up in the air/back qb throwing junk ints? i know i want me some ray ray maualuga for next season, but is he more a luxury than a true need or could ray ray perhaps replace morrison after next season when kirk’s rookie contract is up?
not to mention the whole coaching staff situation.ugg…
man, i’m giving myself a headache and the season’s not even 90 minutes over.
god, i love football.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
I agree post 75 we need that bone crushing brian Urlacher type. And ray is most certainly it. Morrison should of lit that RB up but let him slip by on one play for the first down. We need a MLB who makes hard hits and consistently wraps up the ball carrier. I will be watching closely in the ROSE BOWL to see if he is that monster we need.
Plus did you see that punishment that JRUSS put on the Safety after he threw the pick. He was mad and took it out on him hard. PLus BUSH was a monster out there GALLOPING like a horse to the end zone. What a monster. Plus he got in the end zone unlike JUSTIN FARGLASS. HE is a beast and we need to have heavy doses of this guy next year. By far a great specimen.
THE RETURN OF TYRONE WHEATLEY AND REVEREND NAPOLEON HARRIS RETURNS IN THE FORM OF BUSH AND MCFADDEN.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
What a difference between Kwame Harris & Mario Henderson!
Is he the difference in the Offensive numbers?
December 28th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
wassup folks .. best times on this board are during the offseason, so here we go.
looks like Al isn’t as bad a gm as we thought. a lot of talent on th field today, u can’t argue that.
still, defense HAS to be addressed. I just can’t get past the last 3 years of apparent inptitude on Ryans part.
Cable deserves a look. the offense is playing well and non productive players have been benched. I won’t say he should be a lock, but he should get a look.
but let’s get real. if we’re talking parcells or cowher, then he’s outta here.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Al, played a hell of a game and he wasn’t even their!! What ya think? shhhh
December 28th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
OK, to end the perfect day I’m pulling for Miami, Baltimore and Philly. How sweet it would be for Dallas and New England(and the Bucs) to miss the playoffs?
Is it still early for draft talk?
December 28th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Napoleon Kaufman, not Harris, you’re thinking the “MLB” lol good post up to that point though Suspect J!!
December 28th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Post 95, you are right about the defense. Cadillac had 78 yards on 12 carries! 6.5 yards per carry before he got hurt.
This defense has got to change, especially considering the division are in.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
All of the true haters seems to be happy today!! We don’t wan’t y’all!! Hate harder!!!
December 28th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Looks like philly is taking advantage of their chance to get into the playoffs…….DIE COWBOYS
December 28th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
And just like that Miami scores 14pts in 15secs!!!!
December 28th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Al Davis didn’t make the game?
December 28th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Fargas:
six seasons
692 attempts
7 TDs 8 fumbles
60 receptions 0 TDs
McFadden and Bush:
One season
207 attempts
7 TDs
46 receptions 0 TDs
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Only an imbecile would start Fargas over Bush and McFadden.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
And remember, Gruden won the Super Bowl with Dungy’s team.
Chucky should be job hunting.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
i MEAN KAUFMAN ON POST 93
December 28th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
It looks like we’ll be picking around 7th or 8th. Henderson has pretty much solidified the Left Tackle & the top WR will be long gone. So are we taking a Right Tackle that high or do we go with one of the top LBs or perhaps do we take a DE. Gentlemen,,,,
December 28th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Sweet ending to a bitter season. Hope springs eternal.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Rick,
I say we should still select a tackle in round one, if one of the big three are still on the board…let Henderson and the rookie battle it out, and the loser goes to RT…either way we get stronger on the o-line. If all the tackles are gone, then I hope we get Rey Maliamugulatamala to play MLB…
December 28th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
POST95,disagree,they would be hired guns,and yes,they have won,but have had losing seasons ,big time ,as well!Keep CABLE,get the GM help,RAIDERS!!!!!
December 28th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Rick the Hunter, in my opinon, none of the above. We need a studly DT big time. Either that or trade down. A DE wouldn’t be bad, but not another pure pass rushing type, I’d want a dual mode DE. You can’t take a RT that high, but we will need to get one in the 4th round or so. You DEFINATELY can’t get a LB that high, the value just isn’t there.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Where was Mcfadden today? Hurt like always!!
But lets start Mcfadden! lol
I know who won’t ever be a coach!!! lol
December 28th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
I’m not too familiar with who is available this year, but if there’s players worth the pick, I would say:
1st – DE or T
I don’t believe we have a 2nd round pick.
3rd – DE or T depending on who we picked on 1st.
4th – WR
5th – LB
6th – OL or DL
7th – OL or DL
Of course, we could always trade our 1st for a later 1st round pick, and a 2nd round pick. Then we could use that pick for a OL or DL and our 3rd on a WR.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
IM GLAD AL DIDNT MAKE IT TO THE GAME. SO HE DOESNT CALL MR CABLE AND TELL HIM TO GO DEEP ON SECOND AND SHORT. HIS MEDDLING IS OVER.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
good point on henderson. pretty much ended the need to go OL with our high #1. McQ will be a starter next year at RG or RT.
An IMPACT and I do mean IMPACT guy on the D line is a must. Edwards and Burgess are not the answers as everydown DEs. Kelly will be much better next year as he won’t b coming off surgery.
hopefully Cushing is there at OLB in th second.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
we have our #2 round pick this year…..
December 28th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
So much for Jacksonville winning…they are down 24-7.
But Seattle is tied with the Cards.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Yeah, but Pete- do you think Rey M is the answer- or do you think, as I do, that we need a student of the game- a disciplined guy, who will stay at home and fill the gaps-like James Laurentis of Ohio State… Much less spectacular, but better for our needs?
December 28th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
ARRON CURRY THE OLB FROM WAKE FOREST IS AVAILABLE. WHY DONT WE PICK HIM UP IF HE IS AVAILABLE EARLY IN THE 2ND ROUND AND A SOLID TACKLE IN THE FIRST. WE REALLY NEED TO ADD MORE DEPTH TO THIS OLINE. WHEN JAMARCUS HAS TIME HIS PASSES LIGHT UP THE FIELD. DID YOU SEE THAT ULTIMATE ROCKET PASS TO SHILLENS FOR THAT TD PASS. THE BALL WAS IN THE AIR FOR LIKE 0.5 SECONDS AND HIT HIM RIGHT IN THE CHEST. NOW THAT IS SOMETHING SPECIAL.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
didn’t we trade our #2 to ATL for Hall?
December 28th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
don’t forget guys we need another wr….
December 28th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
don’t we have a 2nd round pick?
December 28th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Dallas getting worked lol…I’ll bet Cowher ends up there.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
we traded our #2 last year for dhall not this year
December 28th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Today was very enjoyable. Happy New Year to all Raider fans. Schilens and Higgins are stepping up. Will they become big time NFL receivers? – only time will tell but it seems like Russell is getting comfortable with them. We knocked the Bucs out this year. The Pats are next to get revenge on next year. Run stopper in the draft. Is everyone prepared for Rob Ryan again if Cable stays because that is what will happen? A 5-11 team that could have easily been 8-8 can only get better with a solid draft. Schilens was a 7th rounder – great find.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
hall was last year
December 28th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
2nd round pick was last years, i thought. this year trade fargas for whatever picks we can get.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Ah! my bad. thanks for the correction.
Then we should go:
1st – OL
2nd – DE
3rd – WR
4th – LB
5th – OL
6th – DE
7th – CB
December 28th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
we traded last year’s #2 pick for Hall, not this year’s. There is a pick to go to Atlanta this year for Hall, but I’m unsure what round.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Trade Fargas for a 5th rounder…just get him off the team and use Rankin as the backup behind McFadden and Bush.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
2 wins in December is a good argument for Tom Cable.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
If Dallas and the Jets get knocked out of the playoffs, I will be a happy camper.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
A thought on the DC situation.
Most here want a new defensive coordinator, probably with Cable as HC. But there are also several head coaches out there who may not survive til next season, and who happen to be very talented defensive coordinators: Marvin Lewis at Cinn, Jack Del Rio at Jax, and Wade Philips at Dallas. And Del Rio is a life long Raider fan. Just sayin’ … some proven DC talent may soon be available. That, and a hot shot younger OC to take that off Cable’s shoulders, and we’d have a huge improvement.
Oh, and resign Schneider as coach for special teams.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Dakota,
The way i see it. If Jags, Raiders and Shehawks all have the same record of 5-11, then the tiebreaker is strength of schedule.
Jag opponents won 137.5 games (Cincy tie)
Raiders opponents won 132
Shehawks opponents won 124.5 (Philly tie)
So that puts Jags at the 6th pick.
Raiders at the 7th pick.
Shehawks at the 8th pick.
If the Jags and Seattle both win – Raiders pick 6
If they both lose – Raiders pick 8
December 28th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Keep Fargas for insurance. Good teams need to have depth especially at RB. We lost both fullbacks this year and had no one to step in. Depth is important if we are going to get back to playing in January.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Response to post 128. Mostly agree with your priorities for the draft. But not on the DE’s. I’d love to improve there too, but I see run stuffing DT as 1st or second round pick. I’d see the main needs at OT, DT, MLB, and WR … probably in that order.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Rich Gannon was so sweet on the Raiders today, it almost made my teeth hurt.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Dakota,
Do you really think getting Fargas off the team makes the Raiders better?
December 28th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Dakota I feel ya bruh, but Im convinced that the left side of the line is good and that we can fix the right side in FA. so here’s my picks for the first 3rds:
1) Rey Maualuga MLB USC 6′ 2 258lbs. a true MLB
2) Terranc Taylor DT Michigan 6ft 320lbs. can play in 4-3 & 3-4
3) Demetrius Byrd WR LSU 6′2 195 sub 4.4 forty
afterwards I say we continue to adress O & D-line. It could work,,,Maybe.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Here is my two cents…
#1: MLB
#2: WR
#3: RT
#4: DT
#5: WR
#6: C
I know 6/7 round pick will go to falcons for the d-hall fiasco.
December 28th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
I am glad I tivo’d the game. Having both Garcia and Gruden on the same recording is something I will watch over and over and over and over. Ok, I was wrong about Barney Rubble, I mean, Tom Cable. Cable did an excellent job. In fact, I am wrong about everything. Plus I suck dix.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
I was watching a oakland seattle game back in 2006 when JOHN MADDEN WAS THE COMENTARY OF THE GAME. HE SAID SINCE THE DEMISE OF RICH GANNON THAT THE RAIDERS HAD 6 DIFFERENT QBS PLAYING. SO THATS WHY IN THE 2007 DRAFT WE PICKED UP JAMARCUS RUSSEL INSTEAD OF BRADY QUIN. JAMARCUS HAS WAY MORE UPSIDE AND WILL BE ABLE TO LAST LONGER IN THIS BRUTAL GAME WE CALL FOOTBALL. THIS IS A QB WE WILL HAVE FOR MANY YEARS TO COME. HE IS YOUNG AND FULL OF UNTAPPED POTENTIAL. THE QB POSITION IS THE ONE MOST IMPORTANT POSITION IN THE GAME AND I BELIVE WE HAVE THAT LARGE MISSING PIECE OF THE PUZZLE PUT TOGETHER.
THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT A MLB IN THE FIRST ROUND INSTEAD OF A NEW GUNSLINGER NEXT YEAR. THAT IS THE LUXURY WE HAVE NOW. WE WILL GET THOSE OTHER POSITIONS FILLED IN ANOTHER TIME AND PLACE. WE NEED TO GET THE OLINE SOLIDIFIED DURING NECXT YEARS DRAFT.
LOOK AT TOM BRADY HE HAD ALL KINDS OF TIME TO THROW THE BALL AND HE DID TO A BUNCH OF NO NAME RECIEVERS BACK WHEN THEY ONE THOSE SUPER BOWLS.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Ryan, where did you get those figures?
If the Jags opponents won more than our opponents, then wouldn’t we select ahead of them? If we played a weaker schedule and won the same we would get the higher pick right?
http://football.about.com/od/miscinformation/a/detdraftorder.htm
December 28th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
my experience tells me to never go for the big dollar, big name guy…
go for the one less spectacular team player…
character matters…
if it’s my money, i interview everyone i want to pick before i pick them…
i don’t just scout ‘em… i investigate them…
December 28th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Guys I just rewatched some of the highlites, and Russell’s touchdown pass to Schilens was amazing. I don’t know how he got that thing out in time, there was a Bucs player bearing down on him and he got popped, but he threw a strike to schilens. WOW.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
SWEEEEET! Sure feels good to win!
December 28th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
How many draft picks and in what rounds do we have next year?
December 28th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Dakota,
It’s my understanding that the team that had the tougher schedule, gets the better draft pick.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
DarthPirate (Rob Ryan Must Go) Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Guys I just rewatched some of the highlites, and Russell’s touchdown pass to Schilens was amazing. I don’t know how he got that thing out in time, there was a Bucs player bearing down on him and he got popped, but he threw a strike to schilens. WOW.
Yeah he is really somthing special. We need some more weapons for him and a solidified oline.
PLUS PICKING UP A SOLID STRONG SAFETY IN GIBRIL WILSON WAS GREAT HE REALLY EARNED HIS PAY CHECK THIS YEAR. WE FINALLY HAVE A SOLID SSAFTEY. TO BAD HUFF WASNT THAT GREAT. MAYBE TYVON BRANCH WILL START NEXT YEAR.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Twocents Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Dakota,
Do you really think getting Fargas off the team makes the Raiders better?
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Yes, but only because they use him over Bush and McFadden. If they could use him properly as a third string back, then I would say keep him. Bush and McFadden matched Fargas’ CAREER TDs this season playing part time. Fargas is a great team player and all that, he just can’t put the ball in the end zone.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
I think Schilens duked the CB on the play and Russell knew it was about to happen so he stayed with it and delivered the pass. Coming back today showed me something – maybe the young talent on this team got their asses kicked enough and it’s time to start winning again. Great way to end the season.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Not Cable, he did not show me anything that would lead me to beloeve he was the best canidate for the job! He held back D-Mac, and I had this same problem with Kiffin they both swore by Fargas when you had to studs in Bush and Macfadden. But alas until Al gives up the reigns we will never get a quality coach!
December 28th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
I’m thinking we should maybe trade down with our 1st. And get another pick in the 2nd or 3rd. We could use it. But only if there’s no players worth the pick that would fill a need in the team. yay, nay?
December 28th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
You know what really grinds my gears about this guy mr? and why I consider he’s an idiot? because he makes comments and statements with out thinking them through. He says he wants a coach that is going to “challenge” al davis and “stand up” to al davis but doesn’t like the fact that al fires coaches left and right. But tell me why do you expect al to keep a coach that challenges al stands up to him and bash him in the media? If you want a coach to stick around wouldn’t you want him to co op with his boss? That statement is like oil and water. Doesn’t mix. But yet he’s smarter than any poster on here??? paaalease.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Ryan, take a look at this.
http://www.kansascity.com/160/story/949040.html
December 28th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
WE HAVE ALL OF OUR DRAFT PICKS THIS YEAR UNLESS OLD AL TRADES THEM AWAY AGAIN. I THINK WE DON HAVE A 6TH ROUNDER THATS IT. LETS TRADE DOWN THAT 1ST ROUND PICK AND GET SOME MORE DRAFT PICKS. I FEEL THERE IS ALOT OF DEPTH IN THE LATTER ROUNDS OF THE DRAFT EPECIALLY THE 2ND AND THIRD ROUND.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
E-culb Dmac was hurt dog. he didn’t hold him back.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Whoever thinks that the guys the Raidsers were ushering out there to play WR were guality NFL recievers are crazy, that should be the number one offseason upgrade some bug time wide outs!
December 28th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Forget the high draft picks!! Adrian Peterson was about a 7th overall.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
one thing i appreciate about MR, Dakota, Hayes37 and some others in here is that they clearly have their own thoughts…
right or wrong…
but some of the people in here are like echos…
they don’t know anything… barely think their own thoughts… and just make a lot of noise…
December 28th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
I don’t think kelly or warren were the problem on D this year at all. maybe in the 4th qtr of some games, but that was due to only 3 DTs on the team so thy were gassed. and again, don’t forget Kelly was coming off major knee surgery. he’ll be even better next year.
now the DE position is a work in progress at best. I sure wouldn’t mind seeing a blue chip stud at that position. someone who the offense HAS to account for.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
YAAA BABY!
Went to a good friend of mine’s bar, across town to watch the game.
At halftime, came back in after a smoke break (tobacco, I’m one of them). And there was three scrawny college chicks, who were Buc fans. Sitting next to me at the bar.
I made a bet with them after Tampa went up, after J-Russ’ pic. It was sweet having them buy me two shots of patron & a beer.
I say give the fat man the job. The team has played to win. Something that has been lacking of late.
Trade Fargas, for what you can get. (3rd. or 4th.pick) And give the freaking ball to Michael Bush. He shined today. As did Schillens.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
I think cable is a moron? But if he can provide what I have seen the last 2 weeks I will be the morons #1 supporter!
December 28th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Dakota,
That’s great news. It seems backwards that if you had an easier schedule the someone else with the same record, that you are a better team. But I’ll take it.
So that means Seattle will pick before the Raiders no matter what and the Jags will pick after the Raiders no matter what.
Raiders pick 7th.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
I hope everyone here watches the Rose Bowl so they can see our next 1st round pick in action. Rey is not your average player. He is a complete monster, a game changer. And I was also thinking the same thing when Morrison missed that tackle in the backfield. Maualuga woulda knocked him for a 3 yard loss, like he does every week. Not only is it a position of need, but he is also the most talented player in this draft. It should be a no brainer. WR and OL are deep this year. We could get those in 2nd and 3rd. You WILL NEVER find a player like Maualuga in the 2nd, or maybe even in another draft.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Dmac 20, when he was healthy he was not getting the carries he should have, even though on a per carry avg. he was doing better than Fargas. Him and Bush should have been getting the most carries this season. But they signed Fargas to that contract and felt that they had to play him. The fact that Bush was sitting for most of the season if with Cable was ubsurd!
December 28th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
I’m getting a 29 M Bush jersey!
What’s worrisome is that McFadden can’t seem to make defenders miss. One hit and he’s down. The guy has no juke. He needs to work with some old talent in the offseason…. call up Marcus Allen, he could teach the young DMAC some things. or call Bo Jackson, Kenny King?
December 28th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
fukk Parcells;he knows nothing about us fukk him
December 28th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Ryan,
Yeah, looks like we got it figured out Ryan.
Raider pick at #7.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
If Raiders pick 7th, thats good, cause the Jags would taken Rey Maualuga, no question. Im just afraid that after the combine, Rey might become a top 5 pick.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
DBAtlanta, it was hard for McFadden to make moves with turf toe on both feet.
Even with that turf toe he still scored more TDs and had a better YPC than Fargas…can’t wait to watch him next year.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Dont get it twisted Kirk is a keeper, if you take Ray move Kirk to Sam, but he is definitly a keeper. But if its posssible to get Crabtree the Raiders have to do it! As content as I am with Jamarcus I still fell like Calvin Johnson should have been our guy. The best way to build the car is to put the parts around the body on first then you drop the engine in. Not have a good engine, new tires but everything else is a mess!
December 28th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Rey Mauluga is a really good player…But he gets caught in over pursuing and not enough gap containment…But he is Nasty I think Cushing will be pretty good also.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Wow, how about Johnny Lee’s year? Jayzus H! He’s a keeper. And he’s catching stuff all over the place.
I think we should retain Lelie for another year. He might have it or he might not but he isn’t that expensisve so let’s give him a litttle more time.
Dallas getting stomped! hehehe
December 28th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
JaMarcus Russell is better than tony romo
December 28th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
WOW can Dallas lay anymore of a stinker than what they are?
December 28th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
To all you fargas lovers i told you so . In 1 game bush rushed for more td than mr 1 td fargas. We are the Raiders not some fell good pop warner team who cares how hard fargas plays when he can’t get it done. Everyone say my name NoMoreFargas and you will see bush become an elite back fb what a waste that would have been.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
I thought the raiders have looked better over the last two weeks, really letting the youth movement show the development they have made in their game(s). A few pieces are needed to move forward, and I’m sure we will have that conversation on another thread.
for now enjoy the win and hope that Mr. Davis makes the right decision, whatever it may be.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
With the 7th pick in the 2009 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select Malcolm Jenkins, CB, OSU.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Malcolm Jenkins? No way. If the Raiders went DB, Taylor Mays would go before Jenkins, as we need Safety way more than CB. Maualuga has to be the pick.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
BUSH IS THE ANSWER TO HALF BACK. MACFADDEN WILL BE OUR SCATBACK WR/HB. HE JUST NEEDS MORE TIME TO PROGRESS. WE HAVE IN MY OPINION THE BEST BACKFIELD ANY OTHER TEAM COULD JUST DREAM OF. PLUS JAMARCUS IS A STUD. WHAT A MACHINE. THAT ARM IS LIVE AND READY TO GO NEXT YEAR.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Was anyone else thrilled how good Chaz is looking damn big target speed come on Raiders just imagine if we had’t wasted dough on Hall,Fargas,Kelly,Walker. Build around the youth j-russ,bush,dmac,chaz,miller and j-russ I owe you a big apology keep it up kid and i dont care how much bling you ware.
GO Raiders!!!
December 28th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
With the 7th pick in the 2009 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select Malcolm Jenkins, CB, OSU.
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That would only be okay if we had traded Nnamdi for a 1st and 2nd rounder that we could then use to draft o-line, WR or d-line, lol.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Where in the hell is Norco Boob? Did you watch the game with Al, at Ricky’s? Still think J-Russ is a bust?
You effin poser.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Oh God no! Please dont waste another high pick on a DB i.e. Huff, tag Namdi who cares if he becomes unhappy, draft some weapons in the early rounds for you QB, they’ve taken wideouts in the 6th and 7th round get us a playmaking wideout!
December 28th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Does anyone really think we would have a legitimate shot at Bill Parcells? Would Al let Bill have any real control or would they clash with each other over personel decisions? I wouldnt mind having him though. Im from L.A. but I live in south FL. and I’ve seen what he’s done for the Miami Mullets and as much as I hate the Dolfins (mullets) Im impressed with them. Imagine what he could do for the Raiders. It would be hard for him to leave South Beach for Oakland though.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
We’re so close. Just 6 more DB’s and we’ll be there!!
December 28th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
“Lance” wanted to be there today to watch his heroes embarrass Al and the Raiders.
He knew that there was no way the sorry Raiders matched up.
Tom Cable had a different opinion.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Hey, Dakota…..
We beat “Chucky”. Enjoy it! Plus the Cowterds are getting their ass handed to them.
A great day, it is!
December 28th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
I want Rey Maulauga!
December 28th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Just remembered. I got a M-80 stashed in the ammo-can. I’m going to light that sumbitch off. [:
December 28th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Dakota – That sounds about right.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
2009 Mock Draft
December 28th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
or…
2009 Mock Draft
http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2009.php
December 28th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
hey no more fargas ,Fargas was the bestr back we had all year untill 2day you should be happy he held our backfield together untill the others are ready.And we still dont know,it was only 1 game
December 28th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
The Raiders are building up the team the right way! Let the young players develop and plug a couple of holes in free agency. If Al can nail the coaching selection (Tom Cable) then the Raiders can hit the ground running next season. No major transition…Except for the defense, but its only up from where they are.
Russell, Miller, Higgins, Bush/DMAC for the next 10 years!
December 28th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
If Washington beats SF – KC picks 2nd – Rams pick 3rd
If SF beats Washington – coin flip for the 2nd pick.
If Crabtree can get past Seattle, Cincy, Rams and Detroit(lol), then the Raiders pick him 7th.
I think Detroit picks a QB
KC may trade down or pick OL
Rams pick OL or QB
Cleveland picks D
Cincy picks D
Seattle always drafts OL or DL, but may take Crabtree or maybe QB
Raiders draft Crabtree, if not there, Alabama LT, if not there, best DE
December 28th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
BOOM! that was cool. My neighbors still believe I’m effing crazy. (keeps them on there toes.)
December 28th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Hell, all these guys are playing great so they get some good film for other teams to see, cuz…………….they dont want to be there.
December 28th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
All of you Kiffin lovers should do the honorable thing crawlo out of your holes and admit that Kiffin was holding this team back.
It’s not how you start, it’s how you FINISH.
Cable stays.
Dakota is GAY.
Go Raiders!
December 28th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Does anyone know if kid Kiff was at the game? If so, was he wearing Tennessee colors? (lol)
December 28th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Now lets say Al fires Tom Cable anyway, but is able to bring in one of the upper echelon coaches. Would anybody be totally upset about? Wouldnt mind Jack Del Rio for a defensive coordinator. Just saying,,,
December 28th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
what do the players want Rick??? thats what I want
December 28th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Jack Del Rio for D-co would be amazing, but I doubt the Jags fire him. They had injuries all year. Detroit would be better off picking an OT. This is a WEAK QB class. Stafford is definitely not worthy of the 1st pick and if hes not, there might not even be a QB taken in the 1st.
December 28th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Rick The Hunter Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Now lets say Al fires Tom Cable anyway, but is able to bring in one of the upper echelon coaches. Would anybody be totally upset about? Wouldnt mind Jack Del Rio for a defensive coordinator. Just saying,,,
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No! Tom Cable stays. He got the team playing competitive football. For one time, this Raider team needs continuity at the head coach. The players need to see that continuity. Especially the young guys who would have to learn anew with a new coach.
I trust in Cable now. His K.C debacle and lack of DMAC carries and Kwame Harris are forgiven. This team is getting better and for the first time in a while I feel the team is moving in the right direction
Cable for head coach
December 28th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Unknown Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Forget the high draft picks!! Adrian Peterson was about a 7th overall.
Michael Huff was a 7th overall, as well.
December 28th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Unless there is a legitimate coach, Cable should be the guy. I don’t think Harbaugh is worthy enough to take the job after the progress of Cable. I think the young players are in place and the playcalling of Cable wasn’t bad either.
In regards to personnel moves, Cable just thought that the veterans would give him a better chance to win. Most coaches would have done that. In the end, those players developed and we won some games so Cable knows who is core players will be for next season. There is no guarentee that starting all these young guys early in the season could have worked out the same way. These guys have needed time to develop as well and they have collectively.
December 28th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Jmac is still a little off the mark.this off season,pratice,pratice,pratice
December 28th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
I agree Huff: moving right along =)
December 28th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
SF wins. KC and the Rams will flip a coin for 2nd pick.
Browns pick 4th
Seattle 5th (if they lose to AZ)
Cincy 6th
Raiders 7th
December 28th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
If I’ve said it once, I’ve said it a thousand times: Florida Pete for GM! Oh, and Brien, you misspelled your name.
December 28th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
If, Delrio gets whacked in J-ville. hire him as DC.
I say keep Barney.
December 28th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Jerry Mac…
Are you still at Ricky’s, with Norco Boob?
Where is our FIX!?
December 28th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Way to go Silver & Black! Take that Gruden. There’s a lot to look forward to next year. Let Cable be the guy for the job, he’s got them playing tough.
December 28th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
I have been calling for Michael Bush ALL YEAR. How come we started Fargas ALL YEAR? Fargas is our worst back! The dumbest team in football tried to make Bush a fullback!
December 28th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
I like what Bush did today, but I say McFadden will breakout as the MAN next year. McFadden will be the feature back, he’s just too explosive & dangerous, and I like Bush to move the chains and wear down defenses throughout the game (especially in the 4th qtr) I wonder if the Raiders are willing to take a cap hit and dump Javon (I need a) Walker.
December 28th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Here’s a bit of realism – If Monte Kiffin would have never claimed he was leaving to Tennessee, his defense would have come to play and that could have been the difference against us however…they could have made the playoffs a couple of weeks ago and we could have been playing 2nd and 3rd string players instead. Maybe this win was guarenteed?
December 28th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
The Raiders have a better QB situation than many teams RIGHT NOW
Stick with the plan and keep Cable. GEt a new OC/DC and make Bush/DMAC the primary backs
December 28th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
they was out-coached Huff
December 28th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Here’s something else. It’s kind of ironic Lane wanted Monte as his DC to implement the Tampa 2 so the Raiders could stop the run.
Monte’s Tampa Defense was run all over the last four games of the season.
I was one who wanted to see Monte come to the Raiders. I was wrong. Although I don’t know how much better Robbo was.
December 28th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
plus Lechler KICKED ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 28th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Congats to the Raiders,
Time to start restructurining some contracts.
December 28th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
S&B 4eva,,
If Cable stays I probably wont be upset about since he appears to be getting the hang of it. He still makes me nervous though. But I think we all can agree that we definetly do NOT need Ryan around anymore, his contract is done and we should be done with him. So who do we bring in as O & D coordinators?
December 28th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
The one thing you have to worry about with Cable is this:
Where were Michael Bush, Darren McFadden, Mario Henderson and JLH before the last couple of weeks?
Is this the guy who you want making talent acquisition decisions with Al alone for the next few years? Remember: Kwame was his guy.
December 28th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Lets be honest…The Bucs of the last 4 weeks were not the same. They were demoralized by the Kiffin distraction. Generally, Monte’s defenses don’t play that bad. Its definately a coincidence.
December 28th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Word is Cable meets with Mr. Davis tomorrow to discuss his future. Further, Davis’ son greeted him after the game and told him he’d see him next year.
December 28th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
You know…we can question Cable on why he didn’t play those players sooner but the fact is…he ended up playing them and that is why we know they are so good. The point is, he could have been stubborn and NEVER played them but now we know what we have going into next season. Thats all we can ask for.
December 28th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Yo
December 28th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3711069
Playoff Picture
December 28th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
#224 totally agree.
December 28th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Its amazing that the 11-5 Patriots did not make the playoffs. Unbelievable. I like it because its the Patriots but I think it hurts the playoffs because a 9-6-1 Eagles team can make it while an 11-5 team is out.
December 28th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Fargas:
six seasons
692 attempts
7 TDs 8 fumbles
60 receptions 0 TDs
McFadden and Bush:
One season
207 attempts
7 TDs
46 receptions 0 TDs
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Only an imbecile would start Fargas over Bush and McFadden.
Post of the year!
December 28th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
I’m going to say…
Ravens beat Dolphins
Colts beat Denver/S.D.
Eagles beat Vikings
Falcons beat Cardinals
All Away Team Victories
December 28th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Would you guys say that Fargas is Al Davis’ guy?
December 28th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Saints won 34-3
Falcons won 24-0
Chargers won 34-7
Patriots won 49-26
Some of the ugliest losses ever…all under Tom Cable, but the last two games make up for that?
Hmmm, I don’t think so. I know we are all desperate for a winner, but the Raiders have played very poorly under Cable outside of the last two weeks. 4-8. I am just not buying Cable.
I just hope we don’t throw away the 2009 season to find out that Cable really is a 15-43 coach.
December 28th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
We were fortunate that our cable system put the Raiders vs. Bucs game on the tube. Where was this kind of football all year? A lot of things took place which I have been ranting about in these pages. The offensive line decided to run block effectively and not let penalties kill the drives. The running attack with Bush looked dynamic. The play by the QB was something that I was looking for. Letting him throw the ball long to the receiver (although incomplete) showed the NFL that he has a legitimate arm to be respected. The play by the linebackers and the defensive secondary was exceptional when a big play was needed. Kirk Morrison and the linebackers are legitimate. Gibril Wilson was an excellent pick up. Chris Johnson made the decision of DeAngelo Hall’s release much better to take in after all these weeks. Coach Cable (although not my choice) should merit strong consideration for the job. Coach Cable showed the team how to play through adversity and to play till the end. If the common names are in play (i.e. Jim Fassel), then I would strongly consider keeping Cable. What does this mean for Rob Ryan as the defensive coordinator next season? I would strongly urge Al Davis to get a football man to take this nucleus and begin the building. Just think SD Chargers can get into the playoffs with an 8-8 record…Happy New Year.
December 28th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
The young Raiders have to be feeling good about the end of the season. The momentum and motivation for them to work hard in the offseason should be there. If Russell takes Gannons advise and works harder than everyone else next year, Russell will be an elite QB.
If Cable is the coach, I think Cable tries to keep as many pieces in place. (Keep Lechler, 21, Burgess, Walker)
December 28th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
When his brother gets his HC job Rob is gone…….
December 28th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Why not use a 2nd pick to trade for Boldin. I prefer to see the Raiders draft a more impact position (OL, DL, MLB)?
December 28th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Dakota – I’m open minded when it comes to the coaching decision because of the last 6 years but who do you think gets hired based on what we know about Al Davis if it isn’t Cable?
December 28th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Maybe the Cowboys should trade up and draft a QB because Tony OhNo is hot garbage. Id take Russell over Romo any day.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
I would much rather see an experienced WR come to the Raiders rather then draft a Junior out of college.
How about TJ for Nhamdi?
December 28th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
hey the Raiders were the 1st team 2 win the S/B as a wild-card with a 9-7 record.The play-offs are a diffrent beast alltogether.9-7 can = 16-0.Its a beautifull thing =)
December 28th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
I have said this before and I’ll say it again…Cable is a Raider at heart! Truly a Raider at heart. That is all that Al will look to when he rehires him. Cable’s mentality is to take no prisoners…reminds me of “The Autmn Wind”. The team was in shambles when Cable took over but he circled the wagons and the locker room and the team gained the mentality of a Raider. Again, that is all that Al will look to, watch.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Oh crap, 4 months of draft speak….sigh….
December 28th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Dump Cable. He is still an idiot who said Kwame was our best bet at LT. He also refused to play DMAC and Bush like he should have. Did I mention the WR? Everyone with a sane mind knew the younger guys Watkins,Schilens and Higgins are faster and more hungry since they dont have the luxurious contracts yet. Screw Cable
December 28th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
SaintKaufman,
13 months of football talk. 14 in a leap year.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Overall, this was a great weekend.
Chucky and Randy, GO HOME!
December 28th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Re: S&B – Nation Collective
Thanks for those stats over the last 3 games. I calculated it out using this site
http://brucey.net/nflab/statistics/qb_rating.html
and it comes out to a 96 QB Rating. Nice!
December 28th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Brien your an idiot. The raiders have sucked for the last 6 years. Finally the players are making an effort for a coach and you want him gone so another coach can come in and the players can give up on him. Yeah the Cable did some idiotic things in a couple games but the players are actually trying. When was the last time weve been down by ten and been able to come back in the 4th quarter? He needs to be given a shot and a new defensive coordinater needs to be brough in.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Good one Ryan! It will be hard to temper expectations on this blog after the last 2 weeks.
I’ll give Cable 1 thing. He somehow got this team to minimize their penalties. Most of the penalties were coming from HIS OLine, was it addition by subtraction or did someone finally get thru to these guys? Not saying it was him, but the stats are there.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
every one remember;Bush played early in year,only having a good game at squaws.Now I’m all 4 letting Bush play,I just dont think 4 some reason he wasnt ready.Why else not play him.The line never played this well either
December 28th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
I’d keep Cable. But I would send Ryan packing.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Huff,
Obviously none of us really know what Al is going to do, but I would not be surprised to see Al replace Cable with Jim Fassel or Harbaugh. Fassel is the classic Al Davis retread and Harbaugh is the classic Al Davis young HC pick.
I find it very strange that Harbaugh hasn’t signed his extension with Stanford. Maybe there was some truth to the report that he would be the next Raiders HC. I really don’t see what is so great about him, but he fits Al’s young HC mold.
But, my money is on Jim Fassel, and I think that is probably the best we could hope for. He would be the best mentor for Russell and he has the record to command the respect of the players.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Now if Shanarat can get spanked…
It’s funny that the coaches in TB, Denver, SD, and KC are on the hot seat.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
I think that Al will ditch Javon, Curry, Drew Carter, and Kwame Harris, redistribute their monies. With those funds he’ll sign both Nnamdi, and Shane, and keep the DTs intact. He’ll keep Chaz, Higgins, Arman Shields, Lelie, Watkins, Holland. Javon, Curry, Drew Carter need to go.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
one point everyone seems to be overlooking is that Cable seems to be able to work with the owner like Flores and Madden used to do.instead of trying to show he’s his own man,he embraces working with the owner,which one must do to be successful working for the Raiders.but that will work itself out.right now the key is to enjoy the fact that we knocked chucky out of the play-offs.todays game also showed the tampa-2 isn’t the beat all Def. some think it is.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
BREAKING NEWS….
Deal done….Cable stay with Raiders for next 5 years.
either tonite or tomorrow morning will be announced according inside source
that’s what i heard from NFL talkshow guy.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Message to Al -
Keep Cable, Schnieder and Lofton (I know, some of you don’t like Lofton, but you have to admit, he’s got the youngsters playing hard)
Fire Ryan.
Let Cable pick the rest of his staff.
Sign Aso and Lechler.
Go defense with the 1st round pick. Morrison plays hard and has mad skills, but need a run stuffing MLB playing behind Kelly and Warren. Address all other needs in the later rounds.
DMAC and MB become the featured RB’s, but keep Fargas.
I know, I know….but Huggy Bear has given his all, has bled silver and black and deserves to finish his career as a Raider.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Theshdowprincess…………..Idiot? Boy I’m god watch your mouth. Cable is still a moron. The players have been playing hard since 2007. Nothing new there once the young guys got in.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
lol, Cable gets a five year deal, hahahaha. good one.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Well, if it is Fassell, Cable, or Harbaugh, one thing is for sure. Lofton will be talking to Al for an hour or so on Monday to get the Rooney rule out of the way.
How about that Gallery? It’s a good thing when nobody is talking about him. What did he have 2 or 3 penalties all year?
December 28th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
same thing I thought Dakota….
December 28th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Justin M,
I understand your frustration with Ryan, but all he needed was a real man to be his head coach. Notice that he became accountable to Cable. He was not accountable to Kiffin. He did whatever he wanted to do. Cable admitted not knowing the intricacies of the defense when he first took over but he still made Ryan accountable to him. Cable is a man, he’s a Raider. He wants to crush people
December 28th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
You Oakland boys better not get too greedy, the Warriors are going down tonight.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Cable has guts but no brain
December 28th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Wade Phillips as DC…yeah, I said it…Wade Phillips!
December 28th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
If Cable leaves, he’ll take Harris and Fargas with him to Seattle… Maybe even Aso.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Sound fuggin crazy Dakota
December 28th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
No other way to look at it, an impressive statement by Cable. Given no hope to turn around an impossible situation, he brought a measure of respectability in the last two games. Today’s team was nothing like the slop we’ve been subjected to all season.
Not only that, but there’s obvious development in a number of our young players – Higgens, Shilens and most notably Russell – and in our overall offensive scheme. Obviously the team is playing hard for him and are behind him and are beating some good teams.
Making him the head coach brings an obvious risk, but right now continuity is vital for this team. If indeed Nnamdi would sing a long term deal with Cable as coach, that’s enough reason right there.
It would be interesting to see what kind of staff Cable can assemble and if he can be successful in wooing free agents.
What I like most about him – besides the bond he’s developed with the players – is he brings creativy to the offense and isn’t afraid to take take chances. In the short time we’ve seen him, we’ve seen 2 fake punts (alright, one could be the most embarrasing one in NFL history but at least he was thinking outside the box) and creative uses of Russell, DMac, Bush, Shilens, Higgens and Miller.
And bitch all day about Harris playing over Henderson, when Henderson finally got his chance he’s delivered. Maybe, just maybe, Cable knows more about developing an offensive lineman’s mentality and when he’s ready to perform than the rest of us.
What we do have to have is a smart draft – I’d love to see us pick up a powerhouse linebacker like Maleuga or Laurenitis in R1, best OT in the 2nd – get someone in the front office in a GM capacity, attract a few key free agents, and continue to bring Russell and our other young players along.
So, with that being said, it really is hard to argue against making Cable our new head coach with a 3 year deal.
Oh and finally Brein is complete idiot.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Dakota I’d take Wade as DC damn right. He can call a defense
December 28th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Fargas will be a great 3rd string for us, and if he’s not down with it… trade him (for a wide reciever!).
Draft Rey Malagua from USC we need help stopping the run!
December 28th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Wade Phillips as DC, only if he can get Merryman and implement a 3-4
December 28th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Oh and finally Brein is complete idiot.
But yet in your post I’ve said alot of those things namel henderson since the summer, so go fugg yourself you little bitch
December 28th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Hey Brien im not saying Cable didnt do a couple of the dumbest things Ive ever seen in the nfl before but seriously when was the last time weve been down by 10 in the last 6 years and not given up and lost the game? I think Cable has learned as hes gone along the last few games. Maybe some of the players have been playing hard since 07 but as a team they definately have not. These last couple games have been a team effort. The Raiders would have to be idiots to bring in another new coach and risk the mental state of the players going down hill again. We just need a better scouting department,oc, and dc
December 28th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Mo Bitchley, lol yeah attract what key free agents? TJ or Haynesworth aint coming
December 28th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Asomougha is a keeper, we can’t let this guy go. He’s the best at it in the League.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Brien is the real idiot and everyone here knows it, I think most readers and myself when they see his name don’t even look at the post.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Ryan,
Cable and Seattle can have all of them. That would mean we would have the #6 and #7 overall picks this year, and Seattle’s top five pick next year when Mora tanks it in Seattle, lol.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
No because Cable will lobby for sorry ass Jake Grove to start again for 12 games next year then realize he sucks. This team should have won at least 8 games this year and Cable is apart of that as well with his idiocy
December 28th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Shawnraiders81 Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Brien is the real idiot and everyone here knows it, I think most readers and myself when they see his name don’t even look at the post.
Words from a true bitch
December 28th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Kwame’s trade value went up the last two weeks.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Yeah Brien is a tool, i wouldnt give this a**clown the time of day.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Maclin is the best wr coming out of the draft. We take him and our O is dangerous. and I believe we do need a middle linebacker. Kirk is good, but not the one.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Cable has earned the right to stay as HC, sack Ryan and get a new DC. Give Lechler his money and either trade Aso or franchise him. The receivers are good enough to not address this position until later in the draft. Draft a tackle, MLB, DE or DT, who is best available in the 3rd rnd. Center next and more “O” line and “D” line.
Fun win and great to go into the offseason on a positive note. Go Raiders!
December 28th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Brien<———-real idiot who knew in the summer Chaz,Higgins and Watkins should be our guys at WR, also said Henderson is the best chance at LT……consistently! Yeah complete idiot alright
December 28th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
I also say take Malauga.
I think keeping Cable wont be a bad idea; but, he’ll need to get a play caller. Gregg Knapp is usualy a good Coord..i dont know what happen but I think he bolts to Seattle. Tom Rathman should get a shot at calling the plays-im just saying.
Most important, the Raiders must re-sign Nnamdi & tag Lechler.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Let’s see some injuries!
Go Raiders!
December 28th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Tool? Spare me the suburban talk “dude”
December 28th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Rathman and Knapp are going to seattle
December 28th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
For the sake of continuity only, Cable should stay on as HC and Al needs to hire a GM. Hopefully by now it’s clear that meddling owners (cough! Jerry Jones) with stooge coaches don’t win.
While they have the “right” to be involved, they cause problems and embarass themselves. Meanwhile the good franchise owners hire good football people and are content to sit in their luxury boxes and drink $300/glass booze while their teams win, instead of undermining their coaches by being enablers for goofs on bloated scholarship contracts.
As much as I love the CrashTest Dummy, he should be moved so Bush and McFadden can be used properly, seeing other one of those young backs mishandled will break my heart.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
They also need to get a OT…Green & Kwame suck..Henderson could get better. If Kwame stays, they should move him to guard..
December 28th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Parcells isn’t going to bail on all those guys he braught over from Dallas. The only reason he has the clause in his contract is in case Al Davis would try to buy the Dolphins, lol.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Dakota,
Actually it would be the 5th and 7th pick this year, and a 1st rounder next year.
Can the Raiders afford a 5th and a 7th this year in salary?
…down goes Champ…
December 28th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Kwame should jump off a bridge Memo
December 28th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
I think most of us have been calling for the young guys to play all year and I think most of us also realize most coaches are going to let the vets play for a while because they would assume that vets have the best shot at winning. That being said most coaches would have just gone down in flames the whole year and never have given the young guys a shot. I think Cable should get some credit for letting these guys have a shot
December 28th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Yeah Al better hire a GM and sit back but if you hire a GM dont you let him pick who the head coach would be?
December 28th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Rathman is a good coach..it would suck if he left (cant blame him). Either way, they need a play caller…
December 28th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Del Rio would be a great DC for us, and he has two things going for him; like Cable, he’s a Raider fan. Number two, he’s a USC guy (and we all know who likes USC guys).
He had his DTs playing at a very high level in Jville. I’d love to see him come in here and kick some butt. No more ice cream and sodas in the meetings, fat boys. You’re here to work.
Of course, Jacksonville has to fire him first…
December 28th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Your still a tool brian
December 28th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
I’d love to see Mike Nolan make the drive over and be our next DC. He might not be a good head coach, but the guy knows D.
As for a draft pick, we’ll be picking either 7th or 8th.
Curious to see what happens with regards to the O line now. If Cable leaves, does the Zone leave with him? If so, who goes, who stays?
December 28th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
No you havent newbie stop your lying. I yelled it longer than anyone when it was obvious Walker, and Curry were slow as shyt in training camp and the fact that we signed Lelie you knew the WR were in trouble. As far as Henderson 90% on this site said he sucks and I knew better
December 28th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
unknown Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Your still a tool brian
Notice your name? Sums up anything good you have done in your entire life
December 28th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
…you can NEVER have too many GOOD running backs….just look at the teams that didn’t…i rest my case….you keep fargas/bush/mcfadden…all of them!
December 28th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Isn’t Kwame a free agent? He won’t be back.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
I’m still a tool but yet the most drastic changes predicted by myself and a few other good minds show a better Raider squad. If I’m a so called tool then I wonder what lower excrement you are
December 28th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
john madden Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
…you can NEVER have too many GOOD running backs….just look at the teams that didn’t…i rest my case….you keep fargas/bush/mcfadden…all of them!
Also never heard anyone say crack is good but I think you got some good crack if you wanna keep all three
December 28th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Didnt say you werent yelling for the wr change longer than anyone. Just said some other folks said it as well. You seem to be confrontational for no reason though so Ill just refrain from responding to anything you write from now on. Its pretty retarded to argue with another fan when all fans want one thing and thats to watch their teams win
December 28th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Del Rio can come and coach here. He is a bay area guy and a tough MF.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Cable has a young team that is willing to fight for him, he has the potential to grow as a coach. Get some people that want to be here (staff and players) and not use Oakland as a stepping stone and ‘09 is interesting. I hope he stays. It says a lot about him that he kept the team together and didn’t lose this locker room. i remember Al commenting that Cable could hold this locker room together. I also remember a lot of people saying Al was a fool to go with Cable as the interim coach. He and his team did a great job today. Great job O line. I told you guys 2 weeks ago that Cregg leaving for Tenn. would bring this offense together and it did. Now we can put that chapter behind us and actually look forward to the draft and next season. I hope that this is a turning point and the bleeding has finally stopped for the franchise.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
NORCO BOOB…..
Hey punk. Where you at bitch.
I’m still here little man.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Noshadowking Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Didnt say you werent yelling for the wr change longer than anyone. Just said some other folks said it as well. You seem to be confrontational for no reason though so Ill just refrain from responding to anything you write from now on. Its pretty retarded to argue with another fan when all fans want one thing and thats to watch their teams win
Yeah I agree just shut up punk and put your apron back on
December 28th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Brien ur like a woman on the rag, chill out. All u do is complain.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
DT42 also remember Al not knowing who the fock Cable was?
December 28th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Hey Brian,
Read.
I said DMAC and MB, the featured RB’s. Obviously, the 1-2 punch at RB
Which would make Fargas the 3rd string backup.
Sheesh.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
new post
December 28th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
unknown Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Brien ur like a woman on the rag, chill out. All u do is complain.
Words from another bitch
December 28th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Del Rio has a huge buyout clause and they just axed the GM up there giving him a lot of power within that team. Cable is the best avail. candidate.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
who do you guys hate more the chargers or broncos? I hate the charders the most. Lt rivers and merriman I really can’t stand.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
If Cable leaves, I think the zone, for the most part, leaves with him. I could see the Raiders putting some kind of hybrid zone/power blocking. I think Dmac does better with a power blocking scheme (ala the Vickings) and Bush does better with the zone (ala Denver).
Maybe pick up a good LG and move Gallery to RT…
(Just thinking out loud)
December 28th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Mikey D, what would be the point having him at 3rd string? Get something for him now. Come on genius
December 28th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Knapp is useless, Rathman teaches tenacity, wish he’d stay. Wade might know defense but he’s not a Raider.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
naw ryan… gallery needs to stay at guard because he hasn’t had any problems, He needs the stability.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Brian your the one doing all the bitching…..
December 28th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Rathman is a 49er………therefore useless
December 28th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Brien…..
Where is that punk ass, NORCO BOOB.
It is personal between that punk and me.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz you guys are bitching because I tell the truth about Cable still being an idiot
December 28th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
I hate SD, the donkies even more.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
It took this team 16 weeks and multiple injuries to figure out who should be starting. Henderson, Higgins, Bush, Chris Johnson, etc..should have been starting since the beginning of the season. Davis needs to start building the Raiders thru the draft instead of signing other people’s rejects. It’s not 1972 anymore.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Brien are you still on Scholarship?
December 28th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
909, you guys are two grown men I’ll leave that between yall lol. Bob is more than likely drunk as fock…….thats just my guess
December 28th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
666 damn right I’m on it like Cable
December 28th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Brian,
It don’t take a genius to know that you’re not going to much of anything in trade value for him, being as injury prone as he is.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
When is Shannon Sharpe going to learn how to talk I can never understand what he is saying…..some 2 year old’s can talk better than he can.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
kirk Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
It took this team 16 weeks and multiple injuries to figure out who should be starting. Henderson, Higgins, Bush, Chris Johnson, etc..should have been starting since the beginning of the season. Davis needs to start building the Raiders thru the draft instead of signing other people’s rejects. It’s not 1972 anymore.
Exactly, we need to trade the trash and get players here and not sign top FA’s anymore. It just aint working. Al can still look like a genius if he hires a GM and lets the GM pick the coach and players
December 28th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
Al Davis put himself on Scholarship so there is no way we can trade him.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
DT… Del Rio’s buyout means nothing if he’s fired. Also, I was speaking of him as our next DC; I think Cable’s going to get the HC job.
They run a 4-3 in Jacksonville, too, I’m pretty sure?
December 28th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
I totally agree Kirk, have been saying that all along. I knew DeAngelo, Kwame, and Javon were grave errors fron the beginning. Lots of money to recoup…1 down, 2 too go.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Mikey, I disagree based on Schilens,Scott,Bush,O’neal(hope he gets healthy), and Richardson being 2nd day picks. Farglass can go for a 5th trust that
December 28th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
666- Al is my guy and all but man he gotta let it go now. A GM and a capable coach needs to be here
December 28th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
edward teach Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
DT… Del Rio’s buyout means nothing if he’s fired. Also, I was speaking of him as our next DC; I think Cable’s going to get the HC job.
They run a 4-3 in Jacksonville, too, I’m pretty sure?
If its Cable we better get a damn good QB coach and a great DC cuz Cable isnt the brightest but he does have guts
December 28th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
FINALLY they freakin give Bush the ball!
I have been saying he should be getting carries for the past 4 weeks and Cable has ignored him.
Al Davis needs to hire Jim Harbuagh as HC and keep Cable as O-Line coach/assistant head coach or maybe even O coordinator. The same playbook and terminology needs to be used so it won’t screw with the O-Line and Russells development. Rathman should be kept as RB coach and so should Lofton as WR coach. Keep Schneider as special teams coach. Harbaugh has not signed an extension with Stanford yet. Harbaugh knows what it takes to succeed as an NFL QB and can teach Russell what it takes to succeed as an NFL QB.
A GM/personnel man needs to be hired and Rob Ryan needs to be let go! He continually gets out schemed by inner division opponents and he doesn’t blitz enough and his run defenses suck. A fresh voice and disciplined tactician and play caller needs to be hired.
We need to add a LT or RT to strengthen the line. Need a WR who can get consistent seperation and run good routes. A MLB who knows how to play against the run….and another DT/DE who is strong is needed.
Sign Namdi to an extension and tag Lechler.
I hear that Cable will be kept on in some capacity.
The best scenario is to hire Harbaugh and keep Cable as his assistant head coach/O-Line coach…maybe even Cable and Harbaugh can share play calling duties.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
A good defensive coordinater is a must next year. Dont thing any of us can stand seeing Rob on the sideline any longer. Someone like Del Rio being available for the d coordinater would be the best thing we could ask for
December 28th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Rob Ryan makes me sick
December 28th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
This offense has a a lot to look forward to as O’neal and Griffith come back next year.
Just need to add another LT or RT and a WR who can consistently get separation.
Add another MLB and DT/DE and hire a fresh voice as a defensive coordinator like Mike Waufle.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Al needs to hire a GM to find a capable coach. Keeping Cable means Al is still pushing the buttons and it wont lead us to the promise land
December 28th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Rob Ryan is the worst coach in the NFL he wont last long after we get rid of him he has been on Scholarship and its over.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Oneal and Griffith wont be 100 pct. sorry guys but it takes two years to fully recover from major knee surgery
December 28th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
mays in the 1st ot in the 2nd n wr williams penn st in 3rd.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
No moving Gallery anywhere. He stays at LG and he becomes a pro bowler next year.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Dark………I feel the Raiders dont need to get a WR unless he is a 2nd day. I’m confident with Higgins, Schilens,Watkins and Shields. Hungry young guys who havent got a big contract yet
December 28th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
A good WR can be found in rounds 3-4 in the draft. No doubt!
December 28th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
no wideouts need to be drafted day one with holes onthe dline and oline…….you guys smoke good crack
December 28th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Brien,
T
December 28th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Hopefully whoever is the offensive coordinater next year is a bit creative. Weve got 2 good running backs who can be used to pass,run, and recieve. If used correctly on top of Jamarcus starting to develop we could definately have a solid offense next year. Definately not going to get my hopes up like I have the last couple of years though until the coaching situations play out but I will say this next year seems to look like it could be the most promising in a while.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Yeah if we pick up any wideouts it should be in the later rounds of the draft or via free agency or trade. The first few picks of the draft need to be used on both sides of the line. The only other pick we should even consider n rounds 1-3 that arent on one side of the line would be mlb
December 28th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Rick The Hunter Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Dakota I feel ya bruh, but Im convinced that the left side of the line is good and that we can fix the right side in FA. so here’s my picks for the first 3rds:
1) Rey Maualuga MLB USC 6′ 2 258lbs. a true MLB
2) Terranc Taylor DT Michigan 6ft 320lbs. can play in 4-3 & 3-4
3) Demetrius Byrd WR LSU 6′2 195 sub 4.4 forty
afterwards I say we continue to adress O & D-line. It could work,,,Mayb
^Not bad…but I think a RT needs to be thrown in there ahead of a WR in the first 3 rounds.
A solid WR prospect can be found in round 4-5
December 28th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
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December 28th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Terrance Taylor? Doubt he will be good. Bj Raji or Terrence Cody are ideal NT
December 28th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
man i can’t belive all the raider haters out there in the nation…look,i don’t care if cable is deaf,blind or stupid as a hc.he has done the one thing that no other head couch of the oakland raiders has done in 6 yrs.. win back to back games in december,and convincely i might add. it took some tinkering with the line up and with a lot of hard work,he said jr was ready..and u seen thr reselts for yourselfs,his undieing determination for the team paid off in the last 2 games,u guys seen the score today,big AL.. give the man a shot,i don”t think u can do better than what u have now…more later
December 28th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
I agree with picking Maualuga if he’s available. I think he could be elite a la Ray Lewis/ Laurence Taylor. I doesn’t even matter if LB isn’t our biggest need. You just can’t pass on a player of that caliber.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Ok guys…
We will not know who the coach is going to be because Al will still have to interview a minority candidate because of the Rooney rule before he makes his decision to either keep Cable, or hire anyone else. However, besides Cable…who wants to coach here? If Parcells does come here (although I doubt it), who would he pick? I believe that Parcells being here will bring top tier coaches, but…will he come here? Hmmm…no one knows.
So, for now…we should all be happy that we ended a nine year streak in beating a possible playoff bound team in December on the road and actually knocking them out of the playoffs. We also won back to back the first time this year. Yeah, Monte may have distracted the defense, but they did (for the most part) come to play. So, everyone, please…enjoy this one. It leaves a good taste in Al’s mouth going to the offseason. Besides, when was the last time we won the last two games of the year (one at home and on the road)?
December 28th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
John Ramsdell is the QB coach for the Dolts. Has been there since ‘06. Works for Norv (not a HC but a helluva OC). Was with the Rams for 10 years 95-05.
Dolts scored a lot of points this year. The Rams scored a lot of points late 90’s early 2000’s. Good QB play on both teams.
OC candidate?
December 28th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Post 364,
Would he be a good OC, or a good QB coach/mentor for JRuss?
December 28th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
If he goes with Cable, he should do it quickly.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Ya’ll keep talking about a soild WR found in the latter rounds but we need more than soild we need BIG PLAY WR! We missed with C. Johnson, heck we even missed on Eddie Royal 2nd round. You keep waiting for late round gems and we keep getting stuck wit subpar guys who rarely get open. Look Al loves speed, but shows very little knowledge of guys with skill get a player personel guy who can spot skill and then we are moving in the right direction.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
E-Culb,
You’re right. We do need a TRUE #1 WR. Higgins, Chaz will be good 2 and 3, or 3 and 4 (if we can get a good #2).
December 28th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Why can’t Shilenz, and Higgins can’t be #1, #2 WRs?
They proved they could play very well last 2-3 weeks.
I believe in them. Sure, they aren’t Fitzerald/Boldin WRs or even Johnson/TJ but i believe they are good enough to be starters.
OL need the Center form Cal. The recovery of McQuistan and another backup guard.
The DL need a DT (Kelly will be in shape for Trainning camp, Sand and gerrard need a pay cut) and a Strong DE, not a pass rusher,we have enough of them (Burgess, Scott, Edwards, Gunheim).
At the LB position i would much rather get a Stong LB than another MLB. We haven’t had a true one for a long time. Get Aarron Curry in the 1st round, then try to move up in the end of the 1st to get the Center. (we don’t need as many pick as we think especially if we keep our player: Aso and Lecher)
December 28th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
I said it before. Cable should be the head coach of the Raiders. He’s developed a passion for it. If Al doesn’t make him the head coach, I’m done. And I’ve been a Raiders fan for over 38 years.
December 28th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
It’s a fact that whoever wrote this article is the biggest idiot of all time. After all NORV stepped into an impossible situation and won 5 games. You have got to be drunk!!!
December 28th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
There are a couple of reason Big Al won’t hire Cable on as The Man!
1) He lost to a beatable Kansas City – remember fake Janakowsi play?
2) Too many people here are calling Cable – The man! Al won’t stand for that! Cable must go, just like when Gruden was starting to turn the team for the better. Al rules. Never forget it! Al giveth and he taketh away – until hw dies and starts the same thing over for another 50 years when he turns the keys to the team over to his dumb ass son Mark! Road to Perdition!
December 28th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
If Mr. Davis gets rid of Tom Cable, he will be making a big mistake. I don’t think he will. Tom has this team playing the way it should, and he is loyal to the Raiders.
DMAC/BUSH/HIGGINS/CHAZ
Raider for life.
December 28th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
Cable must still go. I am not impressed with victories over Houston and Tampa, two teams that are not that good to begin with. Now had they beaten the Pats at home, maybe, but Cable is not the answer. He is nothing more than a “Yes Man” along with Ryan. They both must go. Bring in Parcells as the GM..then we will win.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:57 am
Good article Jerry.
You’re right on the money with this.
Cable should stay.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:46 am
Im not completly sold on cable, but i am impressed with the last 2 games. The 2009 Raiders do have potential if everything stay’s the same. I hope that we can draft or obtain a really good WR to assist Higgins.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:50 am
p.s. Parcells and Davis cannot exist on the same team. Davis is too old to change and Parcells would never tolerate Davis’ antics!!!
December 29th, 2008 at 5:10 am
Give Cable the job. Keep Lechler as he is impossible to replace. Draft some OL help and a big fast linebacker. Bush for president and petition your Congressmen to get Stabler into the Hall of fame.
Go Raiders!
December 29th, 2008 at 7:56 am
Shawnraiders81 Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Interesting read on Parcells being able to opting out of his contract, and team on HIS radar include the Oakland Raiders. It’s on ESPN I would post the link but can’t.
Here is the link
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3795922
December 29th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Raiders hope to speak with Giants’ Gilbride
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3798205
December 29th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Tom Cable grew up a RAIDER fan. as a life long RAIDER fan i know the passion he has for this team,he appears to be a good leader, i would like to see a little more dicipline,to be a great head coach you need to be able to motivate your team to rally around you and stick together,more importantly you need to surround yourself with the best coordinators you can find that can maximize the talents you have on your team. you don’t hire a coordinator that runs the traditional west-coast offense when you have the strongest arm in th NFL, and poss two of the best running backs.McFadden and Bush on your team. Fargas we love you for your hard running, dedication and overall way you carry yourself, but he is not the answer Fargas sould be the third back, pass- blocking 5 carries a game, McFadden and Bush should split 35 carries, yeah we need to run the ball that many times, we need to find the best free agent off. lineman that fits Cables style, two if you can afford it.any poss. we can fill in with the best of what we have. Cable needs to review some of Todd Christianson’s old film, if he could be open all the time just think what you could do with Miller. Draft the best wide reciever in the draft..well thats a start.yeah, we should keep Cable.
December 31st, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Cable SUCKS!
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