Postgame wrap
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, December 28th, 2008 at 5:27 pm in Oakland Raiders.
News, notes and analysis from the Raiders 31-24 win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, courtesy of locker room quite sheets and information relayed by beat writer Steve Corkran:
– The most important player on the Raiders wants Tom Cable as his head coach.
“He brought us from one direction and took us up the ladder,” quarterback JaMarcus Russell said. “He always told us that deep down he thought we were a good football team. By him becoming (head) coach, he guided us in a different way. He talked to us about what needed to be done, we need to make some changes and within that, I think we did.”
– Cable on the chances of being named head coach in 2009: “It’s all I can do. It’s the best I can do. I want to be the head coach of the Raiders but it’s not in my hands. I know I put this team together and it’s going in the right direction, and today proved that.”
– Cable called the win what it was _ a game to build a season highlight film around.
He felt it was crucial to keep the game close early and “match the intensity of a team trying ot make the playoffs for the first 10 minutes.”
That accomplished, the Raiders set about building on last week’s 27-16 win over Houston, instead of tearing it down with another loss.
“We became a team, I thought, last week, and we proved it today,” Cable said. “The thing I’m most proud of is we lost a bunch of guys and we had someone like Michael Bush step up and run for so many yards against a good defense. The biggest thing is we stayed together as a team.”
– Bush, with 177 yards on 27 carries and two touchdowns, sounded relieved to have shown his worth.
“It’s been a long year for me, so the offensive line did a good job,” Bush said. “Luke (Lawton) did a good job blocking and it just all came together. We wante dto ocme out with a win and we did a good job at it.”
– Regarding the 67-yard touchdown burst that put the Raiders ahead, Bush said, “All I know is I saw my line block a guy on the inside, and my guard Cooper Carlisle, had a good kick out block and I just hit it up in there,” Bush said. “I felt someone grab me, but I said to myself I can’t let someone bring me down with an arm tackle.”
The 177 yards rushing was the seventh best individual total in club history. He gained 129 yards in the fourth quarter, the third-most in the NFL since 1991.
“He turned his shoulders downhill to the defense and he really went after it,” Cable said. “He ran so violently, and that’s what you need.”
– The Bush option pass which went for a big 43-yard pass interference penalty was drawn up in the dirt on the fly, Cable said.
“Had he thrown a little sooner, it would have been a touchdown, but w egot what we needed out of it _ a big chunk,” Cable said.
– Cable on Davis: “We had good conversations. He was fired up for the game today. It was good. He was there. Believe me, he was there.”
The Raiders appeared to put the “woe is me” syndrome behind them in coming back from a 10-point deficit on the road. Cable said it was something the Raiders couldn’t have done two months ago.
“No chance. We didn’t trust each other, didn’t depend on each each other enough to do that,” Cable said.
– Asomugha’s neck injury got worse over night, according to Cable. He said it was hoped he would be ready to play at kickoff. Asomugha has been excused from the final team meeting Monday, while Shane Lechler is expected to attend.
Asomugha and Lechler, prospective unrestricted free agents represented by Tom Condon, had their lockers cleaned out Friday before the team left for Tampa.
– How far down the bench did the Raiders go?
That was Greyson Gunheim, a pracitice squad player for much of the year, sacking Jeff Garcia on the final play of the game. Tommy Kelly didn’t finish the game because of turf toe. Thomas Howard didn’t finish with an ankle sprain. Return specialist Justin Miller was playing cornerback.
Miller held up well other than being in primary coverage on a 58-yard touchdown pass from Garcia to Mark Clayton. Miller first chucked Ike Hilliard in the slot, then veered toward Clayton, who broke free down the sideline.
The seven-play, 61-yard drive which closed out the first half with Russell’s 3-yard TD pass to Chaz Schilens was their first successful drive inside of two minutes all season at the close of a half or game.
– Tampa Bay had what coach Jon Gruden termed “an emotional downer” when Carnell “Cadillac” Williams blew out his knee in the second half. He had 78 yards on 12 carries and two touchdowns at the time, seemingly all the way back form blowing out his left knee two years earlier.
– Linebacker Derrick Brooks, hobbling around on one leg for much of the second half, was at a loss to explain how the Bucs couldn’t finish not only the game, but finish out a strong season after compiling a 9-3 record.
“I’m really apologizing because I don’t have the words to explain why we wer not able to do it,” Brooks said.
– A fabulous game by Lechler, who had a 47.7 gross punting average, a 41.7 net, and pinned the Bucs inside the 20-yard line three times.
– Linebacker Kirk Morrison, coming off a season-low two tackles against Houston, had a game-high 13 against the Bucs to lead the team in tackles for the fourth straight year.
“It was tough. We knew what we had all week long with Garcia,” Morrison said. “We wanted to keep him in front of us and limit his big plays. They go ta couple on us but we stuck with what we were doing and in the end it came out perfect for us.”
Gruden noted that the Bucs were depleted in terms of depth and affected by Williams’ injury, but said, “That’s no excuse. Everybody in this league has the same plight that we have but you’re the head coach and you have to take responsibility for it.”
– ESPN’s Chris Mortensen included the Raiders as a team executive vice president Bill Parcells is interested in should he void his contract with Miami after one year and $12 million.
If Parcells were to come to the Raiders, he’d be be working for a lot less than that.
– Another reason Cable makes the most sense _ do you really want to go through the process again of a new coaching determing he can’t work with Davis?
Rather than dread it, Cable embraced it, and not in the sort of Joe Bugel-esque fashion which caused his authority to evaporate.
– The Raiders will have the No. 7 pick in the 2009 NFL draft, just ahead of Jacksonville.
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December 28th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Cable is going down!
December 28th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Rey Malaeuga with the 7th pick. It would most likely be a DB who ran a 4.3…
December 28th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Dakota you and I are agreeing, I think the holiday alcohol is taking over
December 28th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Sadly Al doesnt like to draft LBs that high
December 28th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Great win today. I hope the players saw what they can do and decide to come back next year to get us back to the Super Bowl. Play like today for 16 games and we’ll terrorize the league.
2009 Raider schedule
AWAY
Cleveland
Pittsburg
Dallas
NYGiants
Houston
Denver
Kansas City
San Diego
HOME
Ravens
Bengals
Eagles
Redskins
NY Jets
Denver
Kansas City
San Diego
December 28th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
The last time I was this happy at the end fo the season was when they beat the chiefs under Gruden. Most important Russell looked solid for the second game in a row
December 28th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Al pay Parcells his salary demand? no friggin way
December 28th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Jerry makes the best case for keeping Cable. I don’t want to go through another Kiffin
December 28th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
If we got Wade Phillips, we switch to a 3-4. If we got Jack Del Rio, we stay at a 4-3. I think the chances of going with Del Rio is much greater. Theres also Marvin Lewis and Romeo Crennel as choices and again, Marvin Lewis runs a 4-3 and Crennel runs a 3-4.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Al pay anyone not a player?
December 28th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
I said it in another blog comment, but for the sake of continuity, Cable should stay….you can’t have Russell and the young guys getting ANOTHER coaching staff.
Al’s gotta hire a GM a la Bruce Allen type who can be a buffer between Al and the football team.
Earlier this year, I was really starting to wonder why I listen to these games on the internet, but today was actually exciting and I hope the Raiders have a good off-season!
Good draft, strength of schedule, free agency, the Raiders could 180 their record.
Big question I have is about Rob Ryan? If left to call his own game…would he be better or is he just not a good DC?
December 28th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
comó?
December 28th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
I hear that Del Rio has a huge buy out clause. Lewis prefers to run a cover 2. Any new staff that comes in needs to be an upgrade and embrace the philosophy of the Raiders. No more coaches looking to use Oakland as a stepping stool. Phillips, Lewis and Crennel would be outstanding DC’s as long as they use our personnel correctly. No point in having two shutdown corners if you want to run zone all day.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Parcells and Davis are good friends. I Hope somehow some way Al Davis could pull this off. It would bring instant credability to the organization.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Is it coincidence that we bench harris and only have 4 penalties? Just like last week?
December 28th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Best part about today…….Raider win PLUS 11-5 Pats miss the playoffs!
December 28th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
GRIM Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Is it coincidence that we bench harris and only have 4 penalties? Just like last week?
Yeah aint that something. A 49er POS hurts the Raiders
December 28th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
let’s try an make this simple re the draft … wasn’t the consensus picks outside of McFadden C Long or Ghoulston last year, with Dorsey bringing up the rear?
did anyone see anything this year that addressed that DE need?
December 28th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Raiders only need to sign mid level free agents. no high priced assholes anymore
December 28th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Mario Henderson makes draft choices interesting. He has held his own against two really good DE’s and whenever he is in the Raiders run the ball very well. Didn’t he get the start vs. KC when McFadden went off?
December 28th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Parcells isn’t coming. He’s too high maintenance for him to work with Al.
If he couldn’t work well (no playoff wins) with Jerry Jones why would he work good with Al?
December 28th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Jhill, not really. I like Trevor Scott though. He just needs to get bigger. Raiders need an every down DE. There are some in this draft
December 28th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
DT 42 Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Mario Henderson makes draft choices interesting. He has held his own against two really good DE’s and whenever he is in the Raiders run the ball very well. Didn’t he get the start vs. KC when McFadden went off?
Yup he started that KC game otherwise we would have lost. Harris sucks. He held his own against Schobel who wasnt hurt then in Buf……Did well in 20 snaps vs Peppers, did well in a half vs Joey Porter……played well against Seymour,Williams and Adams 3 straight weeks. Got my vote but Cable seems to hate on him cuz he is a moron
December 28th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
At the end of this season, it’s interesting to look back on the ‘07 draft:
1: Russell
2: Miller
3: Henderson, Higgins
4: Bush
5: Richardson
6: O’Neal (although he’s hurt he was definitely a major find)
Youth permeates this team and it needs solid coaching to coach it up and get them to where they need to be.
I spoke against Ryan all last season and look forward to his replacement.
Schneider & Lechler both need to be resigned immediately.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
What I like about cable is he was the one who lobbied for harris to get signed but was also the one who benched him in favor of henderson. That tells me hes going to do what is right and not be hard headed and try to stick with something that is not working.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
and we need to grab one with that #1 pick … of course we’d love to trade down, but I don’t think that’s realistic. just based on our history.
I’d like to see stud DE at 7 and either OLB or OT in th 2nd round depending upon best available player or where McQuistan ends up.
December 28th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
wonder if cable hates mario after the “anything that sticks it to the kiffin family” comment before the game. 177 yards has a way of mending fences. maybe we can trade Kwamie Harris to the Pats or the Broncos for pez and a six pack. He can sabotage them for a change.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Jhill yeah so realistically Al will never let go and more ofthe same will occur
December 28th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
bien(whateveryournewhandleis)…….
Hey, where is your bro. NORCO BOOB?
That punk ass bitch is absent.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Jhill, who you gonna get? The guy from Ga Tech? Too light man! WE need a DE though, but need a MLB or NT
December 28th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
909, as I said in the last post he is prolly drunk as fock lol. He does live in Sac while I’ll stay in the bay area lol
December 28th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
909 also I want you to take in mind many trols come on this site pretend to be Bob………….hell you saw how many copied me
December 28th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
enjoy the win folks.we have 4 months to talk draft.besides,whoever we draft won’t have an impact until at least 2010.it usually takes a year or two for draftees to contribute.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
If Nanmdi really wants go go then tag him and trade him for nothing less than a first rounder. (I defiantly don’t want him to leave, but if he must then…)
Also trade or cut Ronald Curry Javon Walker, and Drew Carter away because i think its better if we work with our young receivers.
This team needs to grow as a whole not just throw a bunch of vets in there and try to make it work.
By trading those players away for draft picks (especially Nanmdi for a first rounder) we can pick up a quality saftey like Taylor Mays and a great WR in Michal Crabtree.
and oh yea, check out http://WWW.KEEPCABLE.COM …somebody needs to make that website.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
My bad. BriEn.
7 or 11 shots of patron + 13 or 18 beers.
NORCO BOOB is still a punk ass bitch.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 5:56 am
Huff24..
you better send a sms to your buddy (the Liverpool-fan) in San Diego and congratulate him on the win!! 1-5 LFC at Newcastle!!
Im sure we will win now! we, as in Raiders =)
December 28th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Memo,,
You took the words right out of my mouth with Maualuga being picked at the 7th spot. Thats actually perfect value for him, I just hope Al or our next GM is willing to pull that trigger.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Bob is cool man. The toll has took over for the last six years having season tix and all ya know man. I’m sure for you LA guys to make that trip up the 5 only being pissed going back to Socal
December 28th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Rick………..sorry but Al wont take LBs that high. I wish he would
December 28th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
of course this is the time of year I start screaming for us to run the 3-4 defense … it would just make so much more sense for our existing personnel. Sands at NT with Kelly and Richardson at ends. Alston and Howard’s speed at OLB is perfect with Morrison and Malauga at ILB. Routt and Johnson at Corner with Wilson and Eugene at S works for me.
ur right … no more high priced players. trade Nmandi and Huff for more picks. Rashad Baker and T Branch are nice back up S. Huff is expndable.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
after watching the Philly game RoRy really needs to get a pair of cement boots! A major contract to Kelly and meanwhile Chris Clemmons becomes a helluva playmaker for philly.. and not to mention the D.Hall thing
December 28th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Jhill I agree with some of you but Howard and Alston are too light to play OLB in the 3-4
December 28th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
I agree with Brian on that, Jhill. A run stuffer, either MLB or NT (I lean toward MLB) would immediately fill a gap in our defense.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
TRADE FARGAS NOW!!!!!
December 28th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Nnamdi gotta go. Gonna cost too much. Get two first rounders for him. Someone likethe Saints would take that bait
December 28th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
LMN make sense!
December 28th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
# Mikey D Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
I agree with Brian on that, Jhill. A run stuffer, either MLB or NT (I lean toward MLB) would immediately fill a gap in our defense.
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we could have had Chillar for nothing this season and then the ‘09 draft would be much easier.. Chillar was fantastic in the MNF game for packers..
December 28th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Where does Branch stand in light of Justin Miller’s presence on kickoffs?
December 28th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
I say trade Aso for picks, trade Huff , trade Burgess, Trade farglass and you put yourself in a prime position to get many good players. This is the best formula for us to win in 2009
December 28th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Maualuga and Terrence cody make the defense dominant if we were to get them
December 28th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Great win today. It reminds me of the game against KC a few years ago that put us at 500 and launched us into the Gruden Dynsty. Next season’s schedule looks brutal. Not only do we get the AFC North we also get NFC East. essentially we need to be 4-2 in the division which is doable. and get a few wins from teams like Cleveland and Cincy. The bubble games are Eagles and Texans.
AWAY
Cleveland – win
Pittsburg – loss
Dallas – loss
NYGiants – loss
Houston – win
Denver – loss
Kansas City – win
San Diego – loss
HOME
Ravens – loss
Bengals – win
Eagles – loss
Redskins – win
NY Jets – win
Denver – win
Kansas City -win
San Diego – win (finally)
December 28th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
TD chargers…
If Shanarat’s guarantee of playoffs falls through does he get fired too?
Could Shanarat and Gruden both get fired in the same offseason?
Cable as HC, with Shanahan as OC and Gruden as assistant HC?
lol
December 28th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
can’t see going DT at 7 with Kelly Warren and Sands on the team. just being realistic. I also don’t see us making th switch from Captain Kirk, even though I think we should. again, just being realistic.
I do think an upgrade at DE to someone the opposing offense has to gameplan for would make our current DTs and MLB even better.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Can you guys imagine if we traded Aso and had two first rounders in 2009? Team instantly gets better
December 28th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
TRADE FARGAS NOW!!!!!
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LMN if this season has showed us anything its a need for 3 quality backs. We almost lost bush today with that head collision. Getting rid of Justin doesn’t make sense.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
here is an wild idea, silly enough for Al to think its wise!
As For Al’s return to greatness he will re-visit the idea of his last successful coach..
Tomorrow, after Bucs fire Gruden, Al announces that his new coach will be a young coach, but a bit older than last time, Jon Gruden!
December 28th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Jhill of course Al wont draft a LB that high but they wanted Hartwell to make the team in the summer because Morrison was practicing at OLB no BS.
Raiders wont draft a DT that high because no DT will be drafted that high. I want Terrence Cody guy to be a NT. He is a late first rounder
December 28th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Brien(whateveryourhandleis)
NORCO BOOB (or his troll) wished ill on my mom. 2or3 weeks ago.
My mom died. 1/15/05/
If, NORCO BOOB said that, or whoever the troll was.
I will beat their ass, and send him to the ER.
I’ve done hard time back when. 3 squares and a cot. No big deal. And I’ve been stabed and shot. Still alive.
I ain’t a scared..
So, you tell NORCO BOOB. I will see him opening day. 2009 season. I will either buy him a shot and beer, or whup his ass!!
December 28th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
I dress in black Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
TRADE FARGAS NOW!!!!!
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LMN if this season has showed us anything its a need for 3 quality backs. We almost lost bush today with that head collision. Getting rid of Justin doesn’t make sense.
LOL keeping Farglass doesnt make sense. Louis Ranki or some guy off the street can be the 3rd stringer. Trade Farglass and let some idiot pick him up. Guy isnt good
December 28th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
# Brien(The Young Guys huh? Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Can you guys imagine if we traded Aso and had two first rounders in 2009? Team instantly gets better
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Really? Cuz i saw a secondary being victimized with out him today. You get rid of him and you have to draft another DB maybe for cheaper but why not just keep the guy you developed.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Brien
Too much purple smoke, what GM wants the players in your comment above.
The draft is four months away.
Enjoy the win and exhale once in awhile.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Yawwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnn a DBs best friend is the pass rush and what pass rush do the Raiders have?
December 28th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Dell the purple smoke is fine…………..at least you admitted Grove sucks lol
December 28th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
# I dress in black Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
TRADE FARGAS NOW!!!!!
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LMN if this season has showed us anything its a need for 3 quality backs. We almost lost bush today with that head collision. Getting rid of Justin doesn’t make sense.
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IDIB, I agree, Fargas just shouldn’t be one of those 3 backs, either draft a new cheap one or make Rankin the one I dont care.. we need to accumilate draft ppicks, we need a ton of 2nd rounders and 3rounders, Fargas need to traded plain and simple, his contract was made so it was best to trade him after his first season. (first year of his new contract, that is)
December 28th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
909 I know nada about that but sorry about your mom. I’d hope Bob wouldnt say that and hope is a troll bitch. Not cool
December 28th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
lol Dell you talking about a GM………….this is the Raiders Al wont allow a GM to make a decision
December 28th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Brien
Grove-> is Ed Block courage award winner-John Wade is not much better.
Draft the center from CAL.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
FINALLY they freakin give Bush the ball!
I have been saying he should be getting carries for the past 4 weeks and Cable has ignored him.
Al Davis needs to hire Jim Harbuagh as HC and keep Cable as O-Line coach/assistant head coach or maybe even O coordinator. The same playbook and terminology needs to be used so it won’t screw with the O-Line and Russells development. Rathman should be kept as RB coach and so should Lofton as WR coach. Keep Schneider as special teams coach. Harbaugh has not signed an extension with Stanford yet. Harbaugh knows what it takes to succeed as an NFL QB and can teach Russell what it takes to succeed as an NFL QB.
A GM/personnel man needs to be hired and Rob Ryan needs to be let go! He continually gets out schemed by inner division opponents and he doesn’t blitz enough and his run defenses suck. A fresh voice and disciplined tactician and play caller needs to be hired.
We need to add a LT or RT to strengthen the line. Need a WR who can get consistent seperation and run good routes. A MLB who knows how to play against the run….and another DT/DE who is strong is needed.
Sign Namdi to an extension and tag Lechler.
I hear that Cable will be kept on in some capacity.
The best scenario is to hire Harbaugh and keep Cable as his assistant head coach/O-Line coach…maybe even Cable and Harbaugh can share play calling duties.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
no way! we dont need first rounders, we need tons of 2nd rounders and 3rd rounders!
December 28th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Dell I’ll take Alex Mack…….no Wade isnt much better but Grove is trash. He gets overpowered man. He does every game. Ed Block my ass award I can give a fugg about it
December 28th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Brien
raiders can’t stop the run->2002,2003, 2004,2005,2006, 2007,2008-> Brien says trade Aso.
So we go from not stopping the run to not stopping the run with Aso gone-> don’t tell me Routt is go to go.
Our run misery will go away buy subtraction, not addition.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Aso can go … espcially for 2 high draft picks and not having to give another ridiculous contract. there is not one example of a corner getting a huge contract and making a diff on th defense. $ can be better used.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
LMN – If he has no value and is as broke down as you seem to think he is i don’t see us getting more than a late 2nd or third if anything at all. Teams now just wait for players to be waived. Lamont Jordan would be a good example.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Approx.
52 days until the combine!
61 days until free agency!
118 days until the draft!
3 days until Tom Cable and Rob Ryan are sent packing!
December 28th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Gimme Alex Mack or Max Unger for center with Grove wearing a yellow jacket being endzone security
December 28th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Raider Dell Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Brien
raiders can’t stop the run->2002,2003, 2004,2005,2006, 2007,2008-> Brien says trade Aso.
So we go from not stopping the run to not stopping the run with Aso gone-> don’t tell me Routt is go to go.
Our run misery will go away buy subtraction, not addition.
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correction “PASS”
December 28th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Sorry folks but trading the best CB in the league is not smart. Asomugha may not be happy right now, but a nice lucrative contact will shut anybody up, including Nnamdi. But Im not against trading Huff for a 2nd rnd pick if Tyvon Branch can step up to the plate as our FS.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
Routt is decent man. A pass rush is what will make DBs great. Raiders lack of pass rush is the issue
December 28th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
# Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Approx.
52 days until the combine!
61 days until free agency!
118 days until the draft!
3 days until Tom Cable and Rob Ryan are sent packing!
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And 365 days until we are all sitting here bitching because we finished 8-8 and missed the playoffs
December 28th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
The worst thing Al can do to our team is franchise Nnamdi again. It will end with him leaving without compensation after 2009. Al needs to lock him up long-term or trade him ASAP.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
jhill Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Aso can go … espcially for 2 high draft picks and not having to give another ridiculous contract. there is not one example of a corner getting a huge contract and making a diff on th defense. $ can be better used.
Exactly
December 28th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
# I dress in black Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
LMN – If he has no value and is as broke down as you seem to think he is i don’t see us getting more than a late 2nd or third if anything at all. Teams now just wait for players to be waived. Lamont Jordan would be a good example.
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thats all i’m asking, we need to accumulate 2nd and 3rd round picks, those rounds are we’here you fix you franchise..
a 2nd and 4th, and I would be ecstatic..
December 28th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
The worst thing Al can do to our team is franchise Nnamdi again. It will end with him leaving without compensation after 2009. Al needs to lock him up long-term or trade him ASAP.
Agree but I like the trade part better
December 28th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
I’ll say it again;Fukk Parcells,he knows nothing about us.Enjoy NATION =)
December 28th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Dakota
When you figure out who your going to fall in LOVE with in this year’s draft, start your campaign after the combine.
Thanks, we all want to get up to speed by that time.
Wow San Diego Dischargers scored again, Denver is done.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
we need a coach to help develop our QB?hasn’t Cable been doing that?
December 28th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
IDIB,
I hope you are right, 8-8 would be manna from the sky compared to what we have seen over the past 6 seasons!
December 28th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Chargers are putting something on Denver’s ass right now……..take one of the lesser evils Charged Up! Talking trash or Spider
December 28th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
ohhh I fear the salary cap of ‘09.. with yet again a high 1st round pick, McFadden and Russell getting more snaps and have it easier to reach their contract goals they will be expensive as well, and a tag or trade Nnamdi wont help much either..
December 28th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
I just ask………..how in the hell are we not at least 8-8? We would have won the division. My god when you look at the Buf,SD,Car,Mia and KC games
December 28th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Comment #77
Who will defend the pass, all we need is just a pass rush. Keep Nnamdi.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Tag and Trade of Aso will help out also the Cap does rise again in 09. I say trade the number 7 pick by any means and get an extra 2nd
December 28th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Brien(whateveryourhandleis)….
All good.
I would hope NORCO is better than that.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
# I dress in black Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
# Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Approx.
52 days until the combine!
61 days until free agency!
118 days until the draft!
3 days until Tom Cable and Rob Ryan are sent packing!
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And 365 days until we are all sitting here bitching because we finished 8-8 and missed the playoffs
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well a year too late, but heck all i have been wishing/hoping/pining for the last many season was a 0.500 season, then teams will respect us, maybe not fear us, but at least respect us..
December 28th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
CJ,Routt and Branch can be my corners if I find myself a 2nd rd gem at DE
December 28th, 2008 at 6:36 pm
lol at the grove bashing … there just has to be an encounter ur not telling us about.
his only issue is he is hurt a lot. but when he’s healthy, he plays decent. like today!
pro bowler? no … decent player? yes.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Brandon Graham from Michigan is a stud DE. He is big and quick and is an everydown player. He will be available. Let’s be logical people
December 28th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
What NFL team had a better ‘07 draft. Than Raiders?
December 28th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
# Brien(The Young Guys huh? Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
I just ask………..how in the hell are we not at least 8-8? We would have won the division. My god when you look at the Buf,SD,Car,Mia and KC games
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well you actually have to win the games, not enough to have them in the vicinity of you reach..
December 28th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
New Parcells to Raiders story:
http://www.contracostatimes.com/columns/ci_11326316
December 28th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Decent is not good enough for a 2nd rd drafted center. We need a mauler, a tough SOB to play there. Grove sucks no he didnt do squat today. Got overpowered today as usual
December 28th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
From January 2008-to April 25 2008 Dakota says
I LOVE MCFADDEN I LOVE MCFADDEN I LOVE MCFADDEN
I LOVE MCFADDEN I LOVE MCFADDEN I LOVE MCFADDEN
Who will Dakota love this year?
I LOVE ?
December 28th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
LMN…….I know but so many in your reach its just crazy man
December 28th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
LOL, when you guys have commercials in the US, we here can hear Al Michaels and Madden talking or whistling/ singing and stuff.. fun stuff =)
December 28th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
brien..
same thing last year.. close but no cigar.. you know.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Dmac is cool. Yall trippin. Cable is such an idiot I dont care what yall say. He was only using Dmac for screens and swingouts.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Dakota.
and Gruden as coach right?? lol =)
December 28th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
Raider Dell…
How ya doin??
Was great to see M Bush go for 177 & send Chuckie to the golf course!
Check out, Dan Hicks & the Hot Licks.
More of a jazz type sound, but a good sound nonetheless..
December 28th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
i’m thinking… if cable is going to be the man…
let cable decide whether ryan stays…
only those two can really determine if they can work together…
oh… something i noticed at crunch time in the 4th qtr…
ryan was rushing 4 and dropping everyone else into coverage…
uh… works better with 4 than 3… huh, ryan ???
(i mean really, if you’re gonna just rush 3, why bother… just throw every defensive back and linebacker you got out there…)
December 28th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
All hail Mario Henderson! His presence — and Harris’ absence — seemed to stabilize the entire line. I’ll worry about the coaching situation tomorrow. Today, I’m just enjoying the pass protection and the promise of Russell letting it rip next year.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
LMN last year we shouldnt have been close. We lacked talent severely
December 28th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
hmmm and while the season end the war in Gaza escalates… I understand Isra3, but bombing universities is a move of terrorists.. they are no where better than the other side..
sickos, why can we all be friends =)
December 28th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
# Brien(The Young Guys huh? Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
LMN last year we shouldnt have been close. We lacked talent severely
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but we were closer than this year..
December 28th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
Yo Dakota??
have you read ‘The Narrows’ by Michael Connelly?
December 28th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
Dell, I might have commitment issues this year. Last year was love at first sight with McFadden, but I don’t know about this year. Right now I have three LTs, a WR and a MLB on my radar.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
909
Your on fire tonight. How can you let Norco Bob get under your skin. He is your typical casualty from being dropped on his head from mommy dearest.
He is just looking for some love.
Brien knows he has problems, he hangs with him for fun.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Raider Dell…
I will do some homework. And put out some good links to good BLUES radio programing, via the .com From a few SO-CAL stations.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Henderson rules. He didnt see it coming?
December 28th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
LMN,
No I have not read that book, is it a good one? My wife read the Lincoln Lawyer, and she thought he was a decent author.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Uh we all have problems. This is the USA thank you
December 28th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
909Raiderlifer
Thanks for the info, I’ll be looking forward to any links you have.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
I am amazed that Wade Phillips would get another head coaching job after the suck that Dallas put out on the field.
Parcells and Davis? Ha, yeah right, he couldn’t work with Jerry Jones that well, I would be amazed if Al and Bill got anything done.
Cable should at least be CONSIDERED here, after these last two wins.
December 28th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
# Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
LMN,
No I have not read that book, is it a good one? My wife read the Lincoln Lawyer, and she thought he was a decent author.
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yup, I read it in english, and I thought it was really good, and really easy to read, I read in a weekend, and it was much better because I had been talking about the Dakotas with you =)
December 28th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Anyone know anything about that Orackpo (sp?) guy from Texas? Would the Raiders be interested in him?
December 28th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
LMN, I take it that The Narrows was set in North or South Dakota?
December 28th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Dakota… here is a part of it, I was laughing my ass of.. there are more, its not nice to the Dakotas, but the North takes the worst beating =)
…………………………………………….
Bosch:”and where did they bring you in from?”
Rachel: “Rapid City” Bosch grimaced..
Rachel: “No thats Good,” “Before that it was Minot, North Dakota, a one-man office. I think in my second year they actually had a spring”
December 28th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
Dakota..
actually in las vegas, and california..
December 28th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Later fellas, one final question,
Final thought, who was thinking when the Raiders had to kick the field goal with 1:16 left in the fourth quarter ahead by seven, I bet most of you started thinking “here we go again” Ryan’s defense will give up the game tying touchdown, be honest, raise your hands it crossed your mind.
December 28th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
I respect Cutler, I hate Rivers, but I want SD to win..
December 28th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
Hey, at least we can claim victory over the North then! lol
December 28th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
Raider Dell…
Google, KSPC.org (or .com) Saturdays 11:00am-1:00pm.pdt
“Strait up blues”
Or:
Google, K-Jazz.org (or.com) Saturday & Sunday 2:00-5:00pm.pdt
“Nothin but the Blues”.
Good ol’ blues!
December 28th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Dakota..
the narrows is a reference to LA river…
December 28th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Orakpo will probably be gone by our pick, so will Andre Smith. I’m hoping for Oher. My other choice would be for Maualuga. As for Davis not drafting LB’s this high, at least he’s from USC. That’s a start.
December 28th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
ok B … let’s be real all the way around.
Al will hire a personell man only, not a gm …
Cable will be back …
Ryan will be offered the DC job. let’s hope and pray he gets a better offer.
Grove, Gallery, McQuistan, Henderson, and Carlilse will b our startin OL next year ..
Farglass will be the #3 back next year …
Morrison will be our MLB …
AND …
I’m going to bring back Aso and Lechler
signed Al Davis INC.
December 28th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
The interesting thing hear is Rob Ryan doesn’t have to come back if he doesn’t want to. He is not under contract. It may be up to Rob…
Introducing the new head coach of the New York Jets – Rob Ryan. lol
Turner to Dallas.
Shanarat, OC at SF.
Gruden, HC at KC.
Phillips to SD.
December 28th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
LOL, last commercial break, AL michaels and Madden was talking about some old guy, Madden said he looked like paris hiltons grandfather, Micheals said he was for sure an old geezer =)
good the Political correctness crowd in the US cant hear this stuff =)
December 28th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Morrison as MLB and we will NEVER get an 0.500 season..
he was very costly tonight, if Gibril Wilson hadn’t saved his ass he would have looked very foolish tonight..
for the record, I have a morrison jersey :/
that said he is pass defense player, he cant stop the run in the middle..
December 28th, 2008 at 7:10 pm
McQuistan will be cut
December 28th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Carlisle is gone if Cable is gone…
December 28th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
I just heard it on the internet feed ;D
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La Milicia Negra Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
LOL, last commercial break, AL michaels and Madden was talking about some old guy, Madden said he looked like paris hiltons grandfather, Micheals said he was for sure an old geezer =)
good the Political correctness crowd in the US cant hear this stuff =)
December 28th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Cable stays Ryan goes n we will draft ot from ole miss.
December 28th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
I would love to draft Rey. He’s vicious, like we need from our MLB, not like what Morrison is. Morrison should be moved outside without a doubt.
December 28th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
Dakota..
for the record, I wasn’t dissing your state or your neighbor state, I was just saying that our talks made the book better, because you have been posting pictures and saying stuff about ND..
Not trying to step on anybodys toes =)
December 28th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
DarthPirate (Rob Ryan Must Go) Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
I just heard it on the internet feed ;D
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LOL, I didn’t get all of it, what was it they were saying?
December 28th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
If Rob Ryan stays I will punch John Herrera in the nose.
December 28th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Shanahan is overseeing one of the largest collapses in history
December 28th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
No worries LMN, when you come to the Rally some day I will show you the beautiful Black Hills.
December 28th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Raiders should look to hire Sean McDermott or Mike Waufle as there new D-Coordinator
Aaron Curry is another beast of a LB who may fall to the 7th pick.
Here is my rankings as far as LB’s go…
1.Aaron Curry
2.Rey Maeluaga
3.James Laurenitis
December 28th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Darth..
at least its not as big as the cowboys’.. they lost the game with 1min to go in 2nd Q..
every team should start their season by watching that 2min warning..
December 28th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Gotta say, Cable made me a believer. After the pathetic showings vs NO,Bal, Atl & SD, I just wanted the whole Coaching staff out. Today I don’t think so. Ryan needs to go, he has been the common denominator of an underachieving D. With Cable I can live with, just as long as he stops with the stubborn personnel decisions (K. Harris, Bush on bench).
December 28th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
I love seeing Shanarat lose! The Colts are going to beat SD anyway. Then Manning can stay an extra day and take a hike. “The weather hear is great.”
December 28th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
# Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
No worries LMN, when you come to the Rally some day I will show you the beautiful Black Hills.
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Of course! i have been googling it when im bored, and it looks beautiful… right now i’m drooling over Tennessee’s nature.. I could live there I think =)
December 28th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
anyone know when Burg’ contract is up??
December 28th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
If Parcells miraculously comes to Oak, then Cable’s out fo sho
December 28th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
LMN, the cowboys game was one of the most spectacular flops I have ever seen. You would think they might accidently do something right, but no. I was so happy to see them crushed.
December 28th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Why can’t Shilenz, and Higgins can’t be #1, #2 WRs?
They proved they could play very well last 2-3 weeks.
I believe in them. Sure, they aren’t Fitzerald/Boldin WRs or even Johnson/TJ but i believe they are good enough to be starters.
OL need the Center form Cal. The recovery of McQuistan and another backup guard.
The DL need a DT (Kelly will be in shape for Trainning camp, Sand and gerrard need a pay cut) and a Strong DE, not a pass rusher,we have enough of them (Burgess, Scott, Edwards, Gunheim).
At the LB position i would much rather get a Stong LB than another MLB. We haven’t had a true one for a long time. Get Aarron Curry in the 1st round, then try to move up in the end of the 1st to get the Center. (we don’t need as many pick as we think especially if we keep our player: Aso and Lecher)
December 28th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
oh well guys…
I think I’ll tape the rest of the game.. and go to bed.. I have my first day of work tomorrow night..
Congrats on the win to you all..
December 28th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
By the way, for the Eagles Chris Clemons (remember him?) had 2 sacks 1 forced fumble and a fumble return.
December 28th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 5:53 am
♫ Walk on through the wind, Walk on through the rain, Tho’ your dreams be tossed and blown. Walk on, walk on with hope in your heart And you’ll never walk alone, You’ll never walk alone! ♫
Liverpoooool! LFC!!!
Go Brondby, Go Raiders!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1Tf58Gl0vQ&feature=related
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I thin I might have to post this before each gmae next year, i’ve done it twice this year, both times we won…
December 28th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
After next year.
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ggnringo Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
anyone know when Burg’ contract is up??
December 28th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
Darth..
lol see post 41
December 28th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
Night all.. take care, enjoy.
December 28th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
Dakota….
My wife’s kids from her ex. Live in Colorado.
Point being: We’re going that way in the spring. (Apr-Mar.)
I will buy you a beer. Somewhere out there.
Golden, Co.?
December 28th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Trade out of the first round, we have enough fat contracts on the team. Draft blue collar dudes that’ll come to work every day. Please, no more 4.20 CBs.
December 28th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
I would love to see Parcells come here. Can you imagine the bets the players would have during training camp on who would win a race between Parcell’s Golf cart and Al Davis’ motorized scooter? Some smart ass would put nitrous on Al’s scooter while he’s asleep and the next day Al’s ass would blow over the Napa Marriot’s wall.
December 28th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
Give Aso his money.
Tag Lechler.
Keep Cable, Schnieder, Rathman and Lofton.
Let Cable pick the rest of his staff.
Surprise everyone and take a run stuffer with the #7 pick. Address DT/DE/LT/WR in the later rounds.
Just my take.
December 28th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
Cut rob the slob & knapp immediately!!!!!!
Keep cable & schneider!
December 28th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
909,
That would be nice….but Golden is about 360 miles from where I live, lol…we’ll have to see huh?
December 28th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
LMN……
How ya doin?
It is 56*f here in SO-CAL.
Have the door open.
Can drive 20mi +or- and go skiing. Or, drive 30mi +or-, the other direction and go surfing.
God bless America!
December 28th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
It was a great game.
-I think we should sign or tag Namdi.
-No way do we let Lechler go anywhere.
-WE NEED A CENTER REAL BAD, PEOPLE.
-Cable is fine for me. The force is strong in him.
-Linemen should dominate our draft, as long as we get a high-round WR to go along with Higgins and Schilens; and don’t forget about Arman Shields!
-New GM and DC.
December 28th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Mario Henderson is da man!!!!!
December 28th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
Anybody see the ‘medallion’ that Jamarcus was wearing in his post game press conference? LMAO. I love this kid.
December 28th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
Dakota….
Just a tank of gas, and a 1/2 day drive. No problem.
Hey, if you remember. I do the GRIND in SO-CAL every freaking-day.
December 28th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Need help at right tackle and center.
The defense needs a lot of help! D line and a real middle linebacker for starters.
Kirk Morrison sucks!!!!
December 28th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Boy! I swear I didn’t know there could be soo much ignorance in one place at one time.
December 28th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
However i’m still really concerned about McFadden slipping on the turf while cutting back.
December 28th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Dakota….
Put it this way:
I would have no problem buying y’all a beer or 10.
Since your in SD. And I’m SO-CAL. Some one dog town in Wyoming. Will do?
December 28th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
” Michael Bush has just taken this game by the throat and squeezed”!! That was great to hear. I was just over reading some tampa blog and those people are mad. HA!HA!
December 28th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Lots of very good O lineman especially tackles in this draft. Look for the Raiders to go O line and D line heavy in this draft. Need to dump Walker and Curry and look for a blocking tightend and wideouts that come at a good price. Look at the Falcons and Dolphins, no real big names. There are a lot of free agents that are available every year that are back ups on there teams but could start with the Raiders and will come at a reasonable price .
December 28th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
I don’t want fargas back but no way anyone would trade for mr. 1 td not when u can pick up a better rb of the street give rankin that 3rd spot and i gurrante more than 1 td. BHP why did it take so long and injuries to get bush a chance guy is big and fast and can catch the ball on a team that needs playmakers what the hell?
December 28th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
I will say it again:
Keep the fat man, fire the other one (Ryan). Hire, Delrio for DC.
Keep, Aso and Shane. (Shane helped win today, again with field position).
Give the freaking ball to, Micheal Bush!!!!!!
December 28th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
After the KC loss everyone in here was saying Cable was the lousiest coach ever. A lot of peple saying the Raiders wouldn’t win another game.
I’ve been reading for 2 years that the Raider drafts were terrible and all Davis could evaluate talent without a GM.
Well where did all this young talent come from and who got it? I noticed today that even the Tampa Bay Bucs no longer run the Tampa 2, which is penultimate defense of preference in here.
I told you early in the season that we would have a few young WR’s distinquish themelves by years end. I think that came to pass.
WR is no longer a priority in the draft and neither is LT which I remember when we played Buffalo everyone said Mario was garbage well now you all seem to like him.
Now the common (silly) knowledge is that Al Davis wont draft a LBer high. The only reason he hasn’t is because he hasn’t needed to. Al davis will draft whomever he needs to whenever he need to…………………….period. If the player warrants the pick.
that’s just like the saying he doesn’t like to blitz or wont allow the cover2 which were all lies and so is that.
This blog is full of parakeets who repeat what they read the over and over just to have something to say because they otherwise would have nothing to say worth listening to in their minds.
Does anyone in here have an original thought other than what the rest of the lunatics rant in here.
December 28th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Hell, do you really believe that Al davis wouldn’t draft Lawrence Taylor high if he had the chance?
Freakin dumbells.
December 28th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
I don’t care for either San Diego or Denver, but…..
I do take a little amount of pleasure in watching the RAT go down…..
December 28th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
I cant believe people are still even talking about the possibility of anyone being a GM here. Never happening. Never.
December 28th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Now I’m felling bad, I apologies for what I said earlier I just get very inpatient sometimes whe I rad the same garbage over and over that has nothing to do with the truth.
It’s just opinions that soem how are taken as fact in here nd they have nothing to do with the facts. You guy’s this characterization of Al Davis that has nothing to do with the truth it’s this cartoon character that you have made up and you toss it around as though you know the man and none of you do.
It just gets tiring to read and I lash out when I shouldn’t
I’m sorry Adios
December 28th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Broncos suck! Gruden and Shanny both fired! What a happy holidays I’m having!
December 28th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
Bartender – “Hey, welcome to Wyoming! You look like a couple of super cool dudes!”
909 – “Indeed we are. We met on an online football blog and decided to drive to the middle of the country to meet in person.”
Dakota – “I’m kind of like the leader of the bloggers. Everyone respects my opinions and I haven’t had sex with my wife since 1983.”
Bartender – “Um, we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.”
909 – “Wanna hear my mock draft predictions?”
Dakota – “How about this hilarious link to a clip from Commando?”
Bartender (pulls out shotgun) – “OUT!”
December 28th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Great job today, Cable and players. A fine win.
December 28th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
And picking 7th should allow us to grab a very very good lineman.
December 28th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Hey Blackholepriest! Mr Davis needs his diapers changed. Get to it right away will you?
December 28th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
BHP Davis can evaluate talent but how to run an organization in today’s NFL he hasnt shown a consistent track lately. I’m a kool-aid drinkin fool but the sugar has worn off
December 28th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Dakota – “I’m kind of like the leader of the bloggers. Everyone respects my opinions and I haven’t had sex with my wife since 1983.”
LOL oh im weak right now
December 28th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Another player to look out for who can slide right into the top ten draft rankings is DE Everett Brown from Florida St
December 28th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Al is a smart man that has gotten too old. No doubt he is a legend but to run a organzation that is not run a muck and up to day’s game, he needs to sit back and hire a GM pronto
December 28th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
darkknight01 Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Another player to look out for who can slide right into the top ten draft rankings is DE Everett Brown from Florida St
Brandon Graham from Michigan will be the best DE of them all
December 28th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
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December 28th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
getting Monroe or Oher with the first pick and getting lucky in round 2 with Terrance Cody would be nice also.
December 28th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
To do:
> Keep Cable, let him pick his OC and add some balls to the Kiffin/Knapp playbook
> Get a GM
> Keep Rathman/Lofton/Schneider
> Find a coaching role for the Wiz (next OL coach?)
> Dump Ryan, interview Martindale
> Draft for RT, DT, C, SLB, and DE
> Sign Aso and then consider trades
> Sign/trade for ONE veteran leader on defense (Briggs is my wet dream)
> Dump or trade the following for draft picks: Curry, Fargas, Lelie, Grove, Huff, Burgess, Harris
> Re-convince Walker to retire
> Heal up O’neal, Griffith and McQ
One other comment about the broadcast… no one mentioned on-air that Lance HAD TO HAVE scouted the Raiders for his Dad, AND THEY STILL GOT KNOCKED OUT OF THE PLAYOFFS. Tampa had inside dope and this time it didn’t help. Hey Kiffin family, how’s Al’s azz taste?!
December 28th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Blackholepriest Says:
‘I told you early in the season that we would have a few young WR’s distinquish themelves by years end. I think that came to pass.
WR is no longer a priority in the draft and neither is LT which I remember when we played Buffalo everyone said Mario was garbage well now you all seem to like him.’
I don’t think you can dismiss the opportunity of getting a premiere player at either of these positions. I think Higgins and Schilens have really stepped it up and certianly both have alot of room to grow but we are thin at the postion. Figure they cut Curry and Walker. They have to address the position in some manner. I still would not be surprised to see another Chad here. In regards to Mario its still a matter of depth. This draft is rich with OL. They might not go for the blue chip Michael Oher but I don’t see them not picking up a tackle especially if Cable is still HC
December 28th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
BSJ
I actually heard Gannon mention on the air that Lance and his dad had spent some time on the phone discussing the Raiders Defense.
The Raiders completed a circle today that started 6 years ago in San Diego against the Bucs.
The curse of Chuckie has been broken!
December 28th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Listen I love defense, but if can get Mike Crabtree and then draft needs after that might be best. The 07 draft doesn’t look to bad at all.
December 28th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
To do:
> Keep Cable, let him pick his OC and add some balls to the Kiffin/Knapp playbook
> Get a GM
> Keep Rathman/Lofton/Schneider
> Find a coaching role for the Wiz (next OL coach?)
> Dump Ryan, interview Martindale
> Draft for RT, DT, C, SLB, and DE
> Sign Aso and then consider trades
> Sign/trade for ONE veteran leader on defense (Briggs is my wet dream)
> Dump or trade the following for draft picks: Curry, Fargas, Lelie, Grove, Huff, Burgess, Harris
> Re-convince Walker to retire
> Heal up O’neal, Griffith and McQ
One other comment about the broadcast… no one mentioned on-air that Lance HAD TO HAVE scouted the Raiders for his Dad, AND THEY STILL GOT KNOCKED OUT OF THE PLAYOFFS. Tampa had inside dope and this time it didn’t help. Hey Kiffin family, how’s Al’s azz taste?!
I agree withthe most part but let rathman go. all 49ers must go
December 28th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
GM candidate – why not Phil Savage? IMO, he’s done quite a job assembling talent at the Browns. Crennel flat out sucked. Savage also unearthed much of the talent floating around the Ravens roster today, Ozzie Newsome notwithstanding. As for HC, Cable or not Cable? Great improvement last three games, but the Saints game, losing to the Chiefs in Oakland and getting toasted by the Pats at home too, those were ugly losses.
December 28th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Billspillalot……
You are the big bad ass on campus now huh?
You troll bitch poser.
Yeah, I will whup your punk ass. Anytime, Anywhere……
December 28th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
LMFAO @ 188!!
And Dogg, I must have missed that Gannon comment… but why would Lance scout our D for his Dad? Offense makes much more sense. No one needs inside info on what we do on defense.
December 28th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Just remember Cable is a rookie head coach. He made some rookie mistakes. His play calling was questionable at best in his first few games. But in these last two games his play calling was awesome. He mixed it up beautifully. Gotta give him another shot at this thing.
As for Aso, you have to sign this guy long term. My memory is shorter than my pecker but if it serves me right , Steve Smith-1 catch and Andre Johnson-2 catches. Nobody has come close to stopping these guys like Aso did. All we need is a stud DE and another LB and we are SET.
December 28th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
909………i just talked with Bob, he said it wasnt him who said that about your mom. I grilled him cuz I think that shyt is weak.
December 28th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Kiffin drafted all the guys who won the game today.
December 28th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Aso will ask for a 8 year 108 million dollar contract. No way. Tag and trade him for two first rounders
December 28th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
No one saying Kiffin didnt know talent. Problem was he a conservative little spoiled rich boy bitch who needed to shut up first
December 28th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Peace out!
keepthefatman.com
December 28th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Re 207:
Our defense needs one DT who may someday make a Probowl. Sands and Warren were marginal, and all season we were one injury away from starting a VERY weak defensive front. But you are right we still need another DE and a SLB.
December 28th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
DontHireCable.com
December 28th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Raiders need a Nose Tackle to play next to Tommy Kelly after he loses 15 lbs and his knee gets 100 pct. Also we need a real MLB and morrison can play SLB eventho he is a little light to play it
December 28th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Terrence Cody is like Gilbert Brown. He will clog up the middle but is only a two down tackle. On third downs we gonna get flagged for 12 men on field because Cody can’t get his fat a$$ off the field in time. We need to get another 1st from either Nnamdi or trading down. Then we go like this:
1(a). Ciron Black T LSU
1(b). Herman Johnson G LSU
2. Alex Mack or Max Unger C
If the urge to go WR is there in rnd 2 and Hakeem Nicks (No. Carolina) is there we take him.
December 28th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
Kiffin drafted Bush? Kiffin drafted JRuss? Kiffin drafted Henderson? Even Higgins looks like a classic Davis pick…
December 28th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
Terrence Cody from Alabama is 6′5 365 and can play 3-4 or 4-3…….Rey Maualuga,Jame Larinaitus, or Aaron Curry can play MLB
December 28th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
Brien…..
Thanx..
Tell Bob, I said hey. Will see you all in 09, and buy some beers….
December 28th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
KEEP Cable… Draft Mauluagua… GET PARCELLS..
Back in business baby!! WE ARE OPEN For the 2009 Season!
December 28th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
The trade down I agree with but Cody is man-child. Gotta get a nose tackle like that he wont get punked on run downs. We can get two backup DTs. We need a real NT badly my friend
December 28th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Brien, I understand what you are saying but two first rounders at a high pick will cost every bit of 108 mill and there not guaranteed to pan out. You’ve got a proven guy sitting here that most coaches I believe would say is the best at his position. Your going to dump that for two high priced gambles? I mean as much as I hope and think J Russel will pan out do you think he deserves Peyton Manning type money at this stage of his career because he is in that ballpark.
December 28th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
909 no issue. bob computer jacked up I know. Damn dog screwd him over LOL
December 28th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
909, I’d love to meet up with you for some real life blogger fun! How about we meet in Minneapolis or Tampa Bay – no, wait, what about Provo or Santa Fe?
You buy the beer nuts and I’ll get the pickled pigs feet. We’ll talk all night about the one time back in November you wrote that incredibly insightful post about Tom Cable being fat.
Then we’ll gossip until sun up about all the new trolls that occupy the football blog that runs our life.
Only one problem – I won’t be there because I have a date with an actual girl.
December 28th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Nnamdi will walk after 2009 and you dont get schit just like with Woodson
December 28th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
Yup. Trade down! We can’t afford those fat rookie contracts anymore!
December 28th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
Most dont understand that this draft is about to be deep as hell!
December 28th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
I agree…if you tag him, but he cant walk if he signs a long term deal
December 28th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
Eddie Anderson………on top of that the no cap year of 2010 is gonna happen. Al Davis wont save thier ass now
December 28th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
Galllery earns like Boselli. JRuss like Manning. Huff like Reed, etc. Trade down!
December 28th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
Aso not signing long term here. Wont happen
December 28th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
If he wont sign along term deal then you have to tag him and trade him. I am with you 100% on that
December 28th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Trading down has never made more sense than it will now. Trade Aso to the Saints who need CB help. We pick what 13th-15th with that pick? Come on imagine having that pick for Aso only with the traded down 7th pick and having an extra 3rd maybe even 2nd rounder? Come on lets use common sense people. Team needs 3 new lineman on both sides and a MLB
December 28th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Aso not gonna sign here. Why would he? I cant blame him. He needs to go somewhere else. We need NT,DE and MLB on defense. Maybe we can even get a good CB in the mid round with all the trades we gonna do
December 28th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Not too high on Mt. Cody. He’s listed 365 but more closer to 380. He’s living on money from parents every other week. Imagine how he eats when he’s got a signing bonus in his pockets. His only knock is keeping his weight.
Again, Herman Johnson is our guy at Guard. He was born the largest baby in Louisiana history and is currently 6′7” 350 listed but more like 370 but with half muscle/fat. He knocked Cody’s a$$ around in the LSU/Bama game this year.
December 28th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
I love Herman Johnson big time. No complaint here but dont you think he is better suited for power blocking vs ZBS?
December 28th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Herman Johnson is Cody’s size though. Cody is a junior vs Johnson who is a senior, gotta think about that
December 28th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
Raiders need to find a FB cuz Oneal and Griffith had ACL injuries and you are just never 100 pct until 2 years
December 28th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
I jsut read something where Grove said Kiffin quit on the team at week one? Fuggin wow
December 28th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Do you guys really think Cable is the answer? Maybe he is but I have serious doubts. I’d hate to invest the next few years in this guy and find out he’s Joe Bugel 2.0.
I know the last two wins were nice, but the 2008 Raiders had some of the worst losses I’ve ever seen in a non-Art Shell year. New Orleans, Atlanta, San Diego and New England absolutely smoked us since Cable became head coach. And don’t pin it on Ryan’s defense. The offense failed to score a TD in 3 out of 4 of those games.
Call me crazy, but I just can’t get too crazy about a coach who goes 4-8 with 5 losses of 19+ points.
Nice finish to the season, Tom. I just don’t have faith that you’re the best option for the HC position. O-line, fine. OC, maybe. But I’m one fan for whom the stink of everything before Week 16 has not been erased by two decent wins against a couple of non-playoff teams.
December 28th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
And why would we trade Aso for a pick? I’d rather work like hell to get him signed long-term and franchise him if need be.
He’s probably the best CB in the league right now. You don’t just draft guys like that. They’re not just available in the middle of the 1st round every year. They come along once every 5 years. And then it takes them a few years in the league to reach that level.
I say, sign him. If he won’t sign a reasonable contract, franchise him. But not with the exclusive franchise tag. If someone wants to give him an offer that’s too crazy to match and hand us a couple of 1st round picks then, I can live with letting him go. But that’s the only way.
December 28th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
So what if the Raiders play hard 2/4 games?! Raiders fans need not be nearsighted and forget the recent embarrassing efforts versus San Diego and New England. Gruden had the Raiders competing hard every week, even if he was rolling with Donald Hollas. Cable needs to quit talking himself and recall a few weeks back when the Raiders were nutless under his leadership.
December 28th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
the last two games, of course, have been pleasing. i wish we had more games to play with this squad.
our offense–
qb- jamarcus has finally came out his shell. for the last two games, jamarcus passed for 384 yards and 4 touch downs. i read somewhere that buc fans were even saying jamarcus is gonna be special.
rb- justin fargas is still known to be hard nose. whether he gains 1 yard, 2 yards, or 3 yards, he is running hard. he, along with nnamdi, are said to be the players to lead by example. they practice hard everyday. i dont think we need him next year, and we should trade him for something that will help us.
darren mcfadden, bka run dmc, suffered from turf toe throughout the season. once he recovered from one turf toe, he got turf toe on the other foot. forget excuses though.. im convinced darren is a playmaker and should be on the field the majority of the time. he should be a beast next year while sharing carries with michael bush, IMO.
michael bush.. michael bush.. can you say ’seized opportunity’? haha, hes a monster. imagine a 24 year old, 6′1″, 245 pound guy out running two cornerbacks (phillip buchanan & ronde barber). it wouldnt be hard to imagine that if you seen the raiders play today beating the bucs 31-24. michael bush, unexpected to play, had 177 rushing yards and 2 touchdowns on 27 carries. i think he deserves to share carries with run dmc next year.
wr- to start this, i think javon walker should cut his pay or get cut. he doesnt deserve the money that al davis is paying him. pay cut or get cut! we should release ronald curry or trade him. he expressed that he doesnt want to be in oakland. he sucks anyways. he dropped hella passes; release drew carter. drew played well in the beginning of the season but got hurt. he has a history of getting hurt. we dont need injury prone players; with that said, we should also release ashley lelie. after a terrific game, lelie got hurt; last, i think we should let go todd watkins or johnathon holland. a lot of TRUE raider fans like todd. he played well in preseason but didnt do anything in the season like somebody did coughchazcough. i dont know much about johnathon except that hes been on our practice squad for a couple years. that leaves us with johnnie lee higgins, chaz schilens, and arman shields. all three are hella young at 24, 23, and 23, respectively.
johnnie leeeee!- this guy is hella small but hella quick. i dont think he fits in as a 1 or 2 receiver. he seems more like a slot receiver. he did come up with huge catches as starter though. another reason this guy should be slot instead of 1 or 2 is so he can specialize his skills as punt returner. jlh is averaging 20 yards a catch.
chaz!!!!!- i knew this guy would be good. better yet, he still is developing. we shouldve started him a long time ago. this guy is a highly skilled player at 6′4″ and 235lbs. he has amazing speed while running routes. he had a touchdown in each of the last two games and is averaging 15 yards a catch. i think he would be a solid starter next season unless we pick someone up off of a trade or from free agency. schilens has the ability to become an impact player despite being a 7th round draft pick.
arman shields- along with chaz, i was excited to see this guy play this season. he is also highly skilled and big at 6′1″ and 195lbs. this guy was drafted higher than chaz, and people that can be inside the raiders camp praised this dudes play heavy! it was said he did hella good at otas and at the training camp. he got hurt before the season so next yr will be like his rookie season like this season was for michael bush.
te- zach miller had close to 800 receiving yards this season.. enough said? idk, i believe he is one of the top tight ends in the nfl. he averaged 14 yrds a catch.
offense line- this is probably the only part of our offense that needs hella help. kwame harris hella hurt us at left tackle. we replaced him with mario henderson the last games. a lot of people are pleased with mario’s play.. but it wouldnt hurt to upgrade if possible. left tackle is the most important part of an offensive line, along with center. robert gallery finally found a spot on the oline where he can excel, so the left guard position is set. jake grove is good when healthy but gets injured a lot. cooper carlisle is good at right guard for next season. cornell green, right tackle, played good the first half of the season but sorta fell off at the end of the season. to sum, we need to draft or sign a left tackle, center, and right tackle.
our defense–
defense line- i dont have any problem with our line except that tommy kelly is probably being over paid. trevor scott impressed everyone as a rookie. jay richardson played good as back up too. kalimba edwards is good as starter, imo. derrick burgess is pro bowl material. gerard warren and terdell sands are cool switching at the 2nd dtackle. i think we should pick up a dtackle in the free agency, if avaliable, because these dtackles get tired a lot.
linebackers- i think our linebacker corps is good enough to go next season. we got kirk morrison at middle line backer and thomas howard at outside linebacker.. both players are highly skilled and quick and pro bowl material. kirk morrison (age 26) finished with 122 tackles, 1 sack, and 1 interception. thomas howard (age 25) finished with 91 tackles, 1 sack, and 1 interception. these stats arent counting the tampa bay game. we will probably just need to draft or sign a player to play opposite outside linebacker to thomas howard. we got good back up linebackers that play very good special teams.. which i will get to later on.
secondary- espn.com rated our secondary #2 in the league before the season started. i think our secondary is still one of the best. we have the best cornerback in the league, nnamdi asomugha. we let go pro bowler deangleo hall.. (how did he go to the pro bowl?) and replaced him with chris johnson. i think chris johnson is our secret weapon aka oaklands best kept secret aka under the radar. he plays opposite of nnamdi so he sees a lot of action. hes way better than deangleo hall when it comes to how he handles that action. of the few games cj started, he got 3 interceptions.. he really got 4 but one was called back because of a little shove (poor reffing if u ask me). nnamdi is a free agent this off-season. we will probably franchise tag him again if we dont let him ago. when we franchise tag him, we have a certain amount of time to reach long terms with him. if we dont do that and he wants to leave, we will trade him. if nnamdi follows his personality, he will stay.. but remember he is going to the pro bowl games so other players will probably convince him to leave. both of these corners are 6′2″ 200+lbs. at nickle back we got stanford routt and justin miller. both are okay.. but very fast. it wouldnt hurt to uprgrade at nickle back. we can even try out tyvonn branch or michael huff at nickle back. both players play free safety but are able to play cornerback. it doesnt hurt to try them out at nickle back because michael huff isnt awesome at free safety and tyvonn plays good at safety but.. we got hiram eugene and rashad baker that stepped up big during the season and played very well, imo. hiram had 54 tackles and rashad had 20 tackles and 2 interceptions. these stats exclude the tampa bay game. our strong safety is set with gibril wilson, so we dont have to worry about that position. gibril is pro bowl material and also highly skilled. he finished the season with 122 tackles, 1.5 sacks, and 2 interceptions (excluding tampa bay game).
special teams–
kicker- jano can kick the farthest in the league, hands down. he just needs to work on his accuracy.
punter- shane lechler is the best punter in the league. hes on another trip to hawaii as long as nnamdi. he also is a free agent this upcoming off-season as well as nnamdi. we need to resign him asap.
in addition to our special teams, justin miller is very good at kick returner. he had two touchdowns off of kickoffs. he was a good addition to our team for that reason and he let johnnie lee just worry about punt returning. johnnie lee had 3 punt returns for touchdowns. as i said, our back up linebackers play very good on special teams: jon alston, marquis cooper, isaiah ekejiuba, and sam williams. jon alston started at outside linebacker for the last couple games. hes very quick.. so quick he helped us get a first down on a fake punt once. marquis cooper is also a quick linebacker. isaiah ekejiuba always makes the tackle for punt team or kickoff team that he was named alternative for special teams of the afc pro bowl team. sam williams is okay. we can probably release him this off-season.
our team is hella young which can be seen as a good thing after seeing how they played the last two games. all in all, this off-season is gonna be interesting. i cant wait to see what happens. on a different note, here is what i think should happen: the above should happen; tom cable should be hired as head coach; rob ryan should be fired; greg knapp should be let go since his contract is up unless he shares the same ideas as tom cable; most importantly, we should try our best to keep our two best players shane lechler and nnamdi asomugha.
December 28th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
Chris in NY, I agree with your Cable breakdown 100%.
December 28th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
Makes you wonder why we didn’t pay one of our own guys in Clemons. The guy has been tearing it up with the Eagles.
PFT.com
“Just as the Cowboys were threatening to narrow Philly’s 24-point lead, Dallas quarterback Tony Romo coughed up the ball, and it was scooped up by defensive end Chris Clemons and returned for a touchdown.”
December 28th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Herman Johnson (G), Alex Mack (C), Aaron Curry (SLB/ILB) and a DT (not to be starter in the first 2 years) are the only pick we need.
Keep Aso even if you have to franchise him again.
Give a pay cut to Warren and Sand.
Get rid of Walker or Curry.
Lets hope McQuistan, Branch, O’Neal, Griffith will be 100% (even if i doubt about O’Neal).
December 28th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
MARTY BACK TO CHIEFS?
Posted by Mike Florio on December 28, 2008, 4:59 p.m.
As the Kansas City Chiefs prepare to search for a replacement for 20-year G.M./president/CEO Carl Peterson, one possibility apparently will entail a return by former Chiefs coach Marty Schottenheimer.
Jay Glazer of FOX reports that Schottenheimer recently met with with owner Clark Hunt to discuss a possible Parcell-style role with the club.
Under such an arrangement, Schottenheimer would oversee the football operations, hiring a G.M. and then deciding with the G.M. whether to bring back head coach Herm Edwards.
Still, Glazer describes such an arrangement as a “long shot.”
December 28th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
One thing I noticed about Gannon this season was that he screwed up today suggesting a 15-yard facemask against the Bucs looked more like the 5-yard kind. Rich, there is no 5-yard face mask call anymore.
Reminded me of earlier in the season when Tony Stewart tried to scoop up the ball on a punt after the other team’s coverage unit had touched it. Gannon had no idea that the receiving team can’t lose posession of the ball no matter what happens if the punting team touches it first.
For a guy who is supposed to be uber-prepare, you’d think he’d know the rules as well if not better than most hardcore fans.
December 28th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Herm Edwards was a terrible hire by the Chiefs. I loved it because he has destroyed the team obviously. It will be interesting to see the AFC West changed if Shanahan gets fired and if Norv gets blown out in the playoffs. That could seal his fate as well I would guess.
I still can’t believe the Chargers blew out the Broncos…I HATE the Chargers.
December 28th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Cable is so smart that he tried a fake punt with a 250 lb bowling ball kicker. Cable is so smart that he spent most of the preseason and the season praising K. Harris. Cable is so smart that it took two running backs getting injured for him to discover who his best back is. Cable is so smart that he started Justin(no touchdowns)Fargas in every game and couldn’t figure out a way to get McFadden touches. Cable is so smart that he has never critized Rob Ryan’s vanilla defenses. Cable is so smart that he doesn’t understand end of the half clock management. Should he be the Raider coach? Only if he understands how to kiss Al Davis’ ass.
December 28th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
C in NY
why didnt AL sign Namdi long term this past off-season????
It was more important to personaly sign HALL (typical big name scholarship player)
I guess RYAN or AL were to busy patting each other to do real research and learn the guy cant play in the scheme.
Thanks for the memories Namdi- I hope you play for a winner.
December 28th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
quite a few GMs have either resigned or been let go.some of you should apply.
Priest-175 was perfect.
December 28th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
According to PFT, Parcels may be leaving the Dolphins and become available for rebuilding another team. The Raiders were mentioned as a possibility andd this may make sense as AD & Parcells do have a longstanding friendship and Parcells is the ONLY guy I can think of that AD might give up control to in a GM position. If only we are thatt lucky. Let’s hope. See: http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/12/28/parcells-leaving-the-fins/ for the story.
December 28th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
This would be shocking. Gruden coaching my college football team?
PFT.com
“It’s pure speculation on our part, but we wouldn’t be surprised at all if, at some point in the next week or two, the media is shocked to learn that Weis is out and Gruden is in at ND.”
December 28th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
3 new linemen on both sides of the ball?
couldn’t be further from the truth!
There will only be 1 spot on the Oline open for comp, and that’s RT. Unless Carlisle retires or something, thn RG.
Warren, Kelly, and Sands will be your DTs next year. u may not like it, but u know its true.
of course Burgess will b penciled in, but that other spot is wide open.
DE has to be the pick!
December 28th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
Big Easy,
Looking back, no doubt Al should’ve signed Nnamdi long-term instead of investing in D-Hall.
But why can’t he try to fix that mistake now. Franchise him again if he won’t sign. If the team wins in 2009, maybe he’ll feel differently about it next off-season.
You’d hope they can keep both Nnamdi and Lechler though, without paying insane $$$ on those guys.
December 28th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
SPECIAL TEAMS coach is part responsible for making CABLE look…little decent.
NO lets persist like the other bone head fans here that BUSH should embrace a fb role.
BUSH is a besst period..what the hell did we get luke for..dugh
I like to see Cable win wihtout Lechler pinnig the opponet all the time. Win without Napp..
he also sycuk with Kwame but with all that said.
Cable is a straight fowar no nonsense and understands the game. I think he grew as a coach and the important thing is THE PLAYERS PLAYED HARD for him.
I give him a 60-40 shot.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
C in NY
I think NAMDI can be convinced but now that he has condon it will be a hard sell.
I hope he stays. They must work this deal as priority I dont know the rules or dates but I think he negiotiates soley with the Raiders first before any other team.
Id luv to see JOHNSON and NAMDI as tandem for 09..
GO RAIDERS
December 28th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
what the heck are we going to do with Huff?
Seriously?????
Wilson, Eugene, Baker, and Branch would seem to be the top 2 safties at each position.
does he even have a position?
December 28th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
Big Easy,
I think you’re right about Cable’s chances: about 60-40.
I’ll hope for the best but I’m far from sold on this guy.
With some promising young talent and JaMarcus on the rise, this will be the most important coaching decision the Raiders make since hiring Gruden.
There’s going to be the potential to turn this team into a powerhouse over the next few seasons. But the wrong coach could easily screw that up and keep the Raiders stuck as a double-digit Loss team.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
i think kalimba is good enough to start DE and jay richardson and trevor scott can rotate.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
Jhill – Cornerback is looking pretty good compared to Routt and the possible departure of Asomugha don’t you think?
December 28th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Kool Kell – I d vote fo rhim to be chairman of the board
December 28th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
We just ended the curse. Gruden and Tampa Bay are paying the price for 6 years of agony! Eff Monte Kiffin. I speak for the Raider Nation when I say bring in a qualified GM, keep Cable, dump Rob Ryan! The 2 wins to end the season more than makeup for the bonehead error vs. the Chiefs. In Cable we trust! The future and the AFC WEST will be ours in 2009!
December 28th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Ao – If we ever want to be good at stopping the run, the whole defensive line needs to get replaced. Tommy Kelly can stay because of his pay and he did pretty good a year after a knee injury. He should be even better next year in my opinion and its kind of hard to stop the run with 260lb guys at each DE position. We need more bulk on the other sides of him for him to be successful doing what he does.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
i say tryout huff at nickle back.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Sign Nnamdi, Mr. Davis! And trade Fargas. He is worthless next to Michael Bush. I’ve been saying that all season long, and now it should be apparent to every Raider fan!
December 28th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
Huff24,
yeah, i was thinking that too. our current dline is good against the pass but we should get a new dtackle to start with tommy that specializes in stopping the run.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
not to mention, kalimba is 6′7″. this helps against short quarterbacks (jeff garcia) because he blocks their vision.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
Lane Kiffin’s stupidity has been proven now. He didn’t want JaMarcus, and he didn’t like Super Mario Henderson. Plus, his father is washed up!!! In terms of 2009, we better get 1) a run stopper, 2) a top of the line wide receiver and 3)a right tackle.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
c in NY
Cable seems to have a very open dialogue with Al. Maybe he has his ear and more trust than other coaches. AL liked his presence.
Look at the way the O lineman battle for him. We have an average O line that excels in zone block yet we showed great imporovement in pass block.
I give him credit for an increased confidence overall.
However, someof his play calls are out there. trying to open it up with russell early was not wise…letting RYAN rush three against the SAINTS was disturbing.
whos out there? Cable in ? thrn whos our OC and DC?
alot of questions..we had the bills game the miami game..so were getting there..The raiders have great young talent but like you said they need a quailty coach that will have positive affect for years to come.
Maybe we need more experience like FASSEL? Id be allright with that. Young players would listen but no denny green..lol
December 28th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
MARA
its past your besd time. YOu dont want to miss all that dream time.
The Raiders need about 40 more players like Fargas. THis game is about heart not flash, have uncle AL tuck you in..
maybe JED YORK will listen to such immature foolish talk.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
A look at all the Head Coaches who could or already have lost their jobs and who could become available as assistants or even a Head Coach for us:
Cowboys – Wade Phillips or Jason Garrett
Lions – I wouldn’t touch ANY of these coaches
Buccaneers – Jon Gruden
Patriots – Offensive and Defensive Coordinator
Bengals – Marvin Lewis
Browns – Romeo Crennel
Jaguars – Jack Del Rio
Broncos – Shanahan
Chiefs – Herm Edwards
December 28th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
john marra,
youre forgetting that we need an outside linebacker too.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
huff to corner? well it worked with Nmandi, lol …
I have a feeling Bowie is going to turn out to be a decent corner. all of our other draft pick seem to be panning out, so I look for Bowie and Shields to make their mark next year.
Johnson and Miller will be resigned as well.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
MARA
Al could sell you a cup of sand at the beach…LOL
December 28th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
MARA
you are right about Ryan !!
GO Raiders
just having fun Raider fans, Hornitos all around
December 28th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
I would like to see a corner group of Asomugha (Starter), Johnson (Starter), Huff (Nickel), Routt (Dime) and Bowie (Reserve)
December 28th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Its fun to watch the personnel moves and player decisions after the end of the season. I really hope Al Davis makes his decisions quickly.
I would like to see Josh McDaniels (Patriots Offensive Coordinator) in for an interview. The guy has been instrumental in calling plays under Tom Brady and Matt Cassel with no huge drop in production. He’s kept defenses on their toes and we can interview him since the Pats are out of the playoffs.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
HUFF CURRY LELIE BURESS NAMDI KWAMIE ALL GONE !!!!
its just the way it is baby? just the way it is- thank you bruce hornsby
December 28th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Big Easy, I live in the Bay Area and I know pro football. Michael Bush is a stud with heart. Fargas is a dud with heart. We have McFadden and Bush. There’s no place for Justin Fargas in our future!
December 28th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
LB SAM WILLIAMS- finally your gone! I was a fan but damn was it your injuries or lack of smarts I dont know.. LATER BABY
December 28th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
I don’t mind if Cable stays as Head Coach, as long as Rob Ryan is gone. Period. Thats my biggest wish list. If we can get the right Defensive Coordinator, this team can improve dramatically. Theres no guarentee we will be great.
Rob Ryan. Please show us that you can get a job in 5 minutes because so far, you don’t have a new job since the game ended. I’m still waiting…
December 28th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
I wouldn’t want ANY of those guys as head coaches …
maybe Del Rio as a D Coordinator, but I have a feeling Ryan will be retained.
I also see Cable being retained in some capacity.
just seems like A D Inc moves.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Alot of no name guys can succeed in the cut block system based on history. Bye Fargas. You run hard but you don’t provide alot of production and you’re one dimensional. Thanks for working hard.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
I’m open to a new OC and DC, but Tom Cable has to be the Head Coach!
December 28th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
MARA
Its obviously going to be an issue with so many rbs and Fargs most likely will be the odd man out.
Ask any player or coach and they luv him.. to say his a dud is crazy. He never complains works his ass off and runs hard every play..he could of left but hes a tru raider and I am for one happy top see p[layers like that finally get thier shot after bing a back up, being rewarded for haard work.
Your being a little critical of a guy everyone respects.
we have so many other concerns- rb situation will play itself out.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Big Easy, the Raiders will hear me request a GM, with Bill Parcells at the top of the list. I can dream all I want to! Al, time is running out and the Raider Nation wants a Super Bowl in 2009!
December 28th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Guys…You have to keep Tom Cable. No more coaching changes! That’s been my biggest problem with Al Davis. I don’t care about a GM or Parcells. I want a coach to be in Oakland for 3 consecutive years. Cable got this team ready to play and the players play for him.
He erased the whole Kiffin ordeal and the guy seems to have a plan AND WANTS TO BE HERE!
And Patriot assistants are overrated. Stop mentioning McDaniels. Haven’t we seen enough with Crennel, Weis, Mangini?
Stick with Cable and lets have a normal/productive and season building offseason.
Tired of starting over again year after year!!!!
December 28th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
its amusing to me that RYAN gets no love here!
WE are cool with Cable as long as RYAN is fired..LOL
December 28th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Big Easy, I know Fargas gives 110%. I admire the guy! But, it’s the business side of me (cold) that says Bush is the kid to keep, and Fargas is the odd man out.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
whats a GM ? lol
December 28th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
BIG EASY – Cable hasn’t had a full season as Head Coach. Rob Ryan has had 5 years as a Defensive Coordinator.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
I think the point is…if you keep Fargas, Bush loses out on playing time. You can say that Fargas can be the #3 but after being a starter for awhile on this team, its kind of hard to demote the guy. Hes been a starter by default because we’ve had nobody better. Now we do in McFadden and Bush.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
I’d like to give Fargas an opportunity to start elsewhere if he doesn’t want to be #3 here.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
J. MARA
I think we all agree BUSH is a beast and I been wanting to see the kid play more in a lost season.
There so much other dead weight to rid to worry about FARGAS.
Best scenario is he plays a back-up role a provide leadership and support- whick I am sure hoe does already.
His contract is not that big.
WHY dont CURRY and FARGaS ever get any love? damn shame- they only been any steady offense our team has had to speak of the past few years up until this one.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
MCFADDEN hasn’t proved enough to be penciled in as starter or to suplant FARGAS.
I promise you FARGAS will still be the STARTER going into the season…as the season goes on and McFAdden stays healthy then I am sure it will change.
dont forget about RANKIN
December 28th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
#24
Bush has lost out on playing time all year only because of scheme !!! or maybe AL! .or because the stupid coaches want him to be FB
You need tree RBS nowadays, anyways
December 28th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
We are going to be much better next year as long as they ditch Fargas and use McFadden, Bush, and Rankin instead.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
There are only so many carries to go around. Unless the Raiders are willing to use a running plan like the Giants they have no choice but to trade Fargas. Fargas is a nice running back, he runs hard, gets a few yards….but he’s not a game changer. He rarely breaks a long run, he’s injury proned and he can’t catch.
Trade him if he has value. Otherwise Fargas has to accept a number 3 role.
The Raiders tossed the season away because it was slow to get the playmakers on the field. Let’s not B.S around in 09… The starting lineup on offense:
QB – Russell w/ an open playbook
HB – Bush / DMAC
WR – Schillens or free agent/Crabtree
WR – Schillens/Higgins
TE – Miller (Pro Bowl Year)
RT – Draft Pick
RG – Free agent/Carlisle/Draft Pick
C – Wade
LG – Gallery (Pro-Bowl Year)
LT – Henderson
December 28th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
what part is amusing? Ryan’s defense has beed an incredible disappointment. and the main problems have been ones that solid coaching would have cured 5 years later. lack of gap discipline, zone discipline, and tackling have been the calling card of this defense for too long.
if williams doesn’t blow out his knee with 8 min to go today, we all know Tampa was going to go up 31 to 21. and that play was classic raider d …. give up a huge play on what? a simple cut back run.
can anyone tell me what the heck our scheme is on D?
December 28th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
BIG EASY – You just said it. McFadden, Bush and Rankin.
Look, you can take care of alot of positions in an off-season and they don’t need to be the biggest need. Fargas doesn’t have the biggest contract in the world but he can save us some money. We’re paying big money to McFadden so he needed to be the starter and hes much more talented. Its like JLH and Schilens and Henderson. They were held back from starting and once they did, you saw how much better we were. The same can be said regarding McFadden. You just have to put him in that position.
We had alot of 3 and outs with Fargas on the field. Hes one dimensional. People stack 8 in the box on him and have forced JR to make a decision, which he hasn’t always been ready for. McFadden and Bush force defenses to back off a bit because they’re forced to expect the unexpected. Fargas is apart of the losing and hes an average back. Fargas should be running the way Bush did today but hes not because hes not as good. Hes not a playmaker.
December 28th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
I am disapointed in the fans that are so quick to get rid of Fargas.
1) you fail to understand the game of football, the situations each player plays in, the calls that are made the schemes, the injuries
2) Fargas has been a work horse who never complains and runs harded than anyone
3) our line doesnt always block well
4) he wears down defendes so others benefit from it
to arem chair GMS- you never make long term decesions after one game pefomances or lack of
thats the difference between a “fan” and a prfessional football evaluator
Both Bush and Fargas are not cosotng the team alot, so all three will be back.
If anything is at stake- BUSH now has trade value.
I luv BUSH I luv Rankin’s upside too, we need to keep all of them OR the Broncos and Chiefs will take them!
December 28th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
cmon mangini or belechick … call ryan already and make him your asst hc/dc ….
or puh-leeze Ryan be super offended that Al didn’t offer u the HC position!
December 28th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
As far as Curry goes. I like him. Hes the one that screwed himself this year. He started dropping every ball that came his way and then he had the audacity to be upset with the direction of the Raiders. HEY CURRY, catch a fukin ball if you want to see improvement because you improve when you make plays. He disappointed in a season he didn’t need to rehab his achilles so he probably took it easy this last off-season. I thought he was going to get close to 1,000 yards this season but he didn’t come prepared this year. Thats his fault, nobody elses.
December 28th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
JHILL
Its amusing because we all agree to fire RYAN- ha ha
December 28th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
BIG EASY,
Loyalty as admirable. I like Fargas and his attitude. The problem is that he is not a playmaker. A playmaker can dominate the game, can turn a big play at any time, are multi-talented. Fargas is not a playmaker. That’s why DMAC was drafted. The Raiders wanted someone who could take it to the house. Fargas can’t do that.
Bush and DMAC can do that. They are better players and physically are just more gifted. There are not enough carries for three running backs. Plus Bush and DMAC can run routes, catch the ball and even throw. The Raiders need those two in the backfield as much as possible.
Bush/McFadden is the west coast answer to Smash n Dash in Tennessee or the running back tandem in Carolina
Play the best players!
December 28th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
#24
Your right CURRY dropped alot of passes. I was a supporter of CURRY.
I still like Curry and Rice, lamb is good too.
chill with RBS- I repeat our Rbs situation is the same as it was all year. We now just know more about thier ability. Its nice to have so many horses. lets gather ourselves and move on.
December 28th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
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December 28th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
BIG EASY – Are you effin kidding me? Fargas has had SIX YEARS to become a great back. The guy is almost out of his prime. You want to know what hes accomplished in SIX YEARS? And don’t make exuses for him. He could be one of the reasons we haven’t been great.
Rushing
79 692 2867 4.1 53 7 132 8 3
Receiving
79 60 410 6.8 21 0 19 1 1
In SIX SEASONS, Fargas has 2,867 yards rushing and 410 Yards Receiving. He has 7 TD’s Total. He has 8 fumbles. Think about that. He has ZERO receiving TD’s.
This equals out to 478 Yards rushing per year and 68 Yards receiving per year. On top of this, hes been injury prone. He has been a big reason why we haven’t won because if he was better, we would be better as well. He will be 29 and hes surely out of his prime already. Its time to move on.
December 28th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
S&B Collective
Strong point- Your right Fargas is vanilla straight two scoop in a cone, taste good btter with cake but NO sprinkles no Cherry.
I still want him on the team and I trust things will play ittself out.
The great thing Fargas wont complain about being a back-up like he didnt complain about drafting the other RBS.
Our rb situation is the leasy of our worries but were all stoked.
How bout LT???? RT???? I rather have that than a new MLB. Morrison had a great season
December 28th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
I don’t think this team needs to draft a guard. Gallery is set at LG, and Carlisle does a solid enough job at RG. We need a strong and smart Center and a LT/RT.
December 28th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
dude get off fargas already..my god, did he sleep with your mom or something!
you act like hes the reason we suck! stop while your a head already. act like you have had an intelligent conversation before.
December 28th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
My bad..Fargas has 9 Fumbles since he lost one as a receiver. Make that 7 Touchdowns and 9 Fumbles…in SIX YEARS.
December 28th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
BIG EASY – I just gave you an intelligent conversation. You’re not willing to listen to it. Good players make a good team. We’ve been bad for six years. We’ve also been bad for six years. I would think that has alot to do with it, don’t you?
December 28th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
I agree with Dark night. I heard Kwame is gone because of the money. If he took a paycut I woner if they try him at guard?
O line after coach is a priority…or does beating up an undersize line today have some of you thinking were great at that too?! lol
December 28th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
The Broncos have had a different 1,000 yard rusher how many years in a row? Fargas has had ONE 1,000 yard season. Catch my drift? It makes a big difference.
December 28th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Fargas will stick but will be the #3 or #4 RB. I can just see him laying a crash-dummy type hit on a ball carrier after a kick off or other ST play. He’d make a hell of a “Gunner” if he can tackle. Does anyone know if he can tackle?
Bush & DMac will be the main starting duo next year – if for no other reason than the fact they both can run, catch, throw, take it all the way & score. We’ve seen this year that’s it’s good to be deep at certain vulnerable positions like RB.
December 28th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Ok Raider fans, here is what I plan to do this off-season:
- Trade Fargas for a third round pick
- Draft Crabtree in the first round, OT in the 2nd, 3rd we will have two picks (Fargas Trade) which I will select LB and DB.
- Parcells will not be coming here.
- Cable is still going to be fired. 5-11, I am not impressed.
- I am bringing Art Shell back. That’s right, I still feel guilty for letting him go a 2nd time.
- I will sign FA Chad Johnson.
- Rob Ryan will be gone. I am tired of all the a** kissing.
- I will hire Mike Martz to coach my DEFENSE. Thats’s right, he will coach my defense. This defense will now be explosive.
After all this, we will go undefeated, win the SB, and I will sell the team to Rich Gannon.
December 28th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Big Easy,
Its nice to have a problem of too many running backs. I hope the Raiders find a way to keep Fargas. Maybe they can find a way to get the carries to all three. As long as Bush/McFadden get most of the carries.
I think the Raiders are set at Left Tackle. Mario Henderson has played well against the likes of Aaron Schoebel, Joey Porter, Mario Williams, Richard Seymour and Gains Adams. The guy can play.
The Raiders should be looking for the “best available football player” at the WR, MLB, OT positions. That’s how I would use the 1st pick. Let’s get another difference maker somewhere!
December 28th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
24
you lost me man- I was with you but, maybe if were both drinking I go along more… but you said how you feel and I respect that but time to move on.
Fargas or our running back situation is the least of our concerns..and NO I dont think Fargas is part of the reason we sucked for six years..maybe all the coaching changes and FA’s and dreaft picks that didnt work out might of had sometihg to do with it…not the heart beat of the offense.
December 28th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Al Davis – What about Asomugha? Haha.
December 28th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
BIG EASY – Fair enough. I just had to state my case. I’m done. You’re right, there are more pressing needs, we just happen to have a whole off-season to go over all of it haha.
December 28th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
I hope JR becomes great so he can smack around Philip Rivers. Cutler has obviously failed to do it and Thigpen has been a nice player for the Chiefs but I don’t think hes going to do it either.
December 28th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
S&B Collective
It be great and a nice story if Mario continues to play well into next season. Obvioulsy the scouts and Davis saw some potential. Sometimes it takes a few games and some urgency to find some momentum.
He did play well against some tough match-ups.
Maybe we trade down. we have dead money now. It really depends on the coach and FA’s but I like to get a big MLB but also keep Morrison in the mix.
December 28th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
if henderson answers th LT question, why do we need an OT with our #1?
mcquistan was a 3rd rnd pick, right? he looks like a RT to me.
December 28th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
I think Aso may stick with this team. This team is not the same team it was mid-season. The team is young and improving, Cable is winning the locker room and the team has a few clearly identifiable holes to fill.
If Davis keeps Cable, I see Aso staying.
Just my opinion
December 28th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
I just remembered our FB situation needs to be adressed. We might have to draft a fb now.
Also along with retaining Lecler- we need Schneinder the Special teams coach..he had alot to do with the success in recent weeks.
I am ok with the WRS actaully…Walker has to bouce back. we have oyun Wrs but they will do. Having DMAC catch more passes and throw in Miller..I think its more about the tackle positions in pass protecting than a guy like crab-tree.
December 28th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
S&B
You echo Jerry’s thoughts about NAMDI feeling a change is in the works if Cable is here long term.
Were stiil a work in progress and we need best case scenarios and alot ot fall inplace for this team to gro up fast and make the playoffs next season, whick cable is selling.
Namdi has Condon now. Maybe that doesnt change much unless other teams start getting involved. I think it 50/50 right now.
We only won two games in a row. WE have to be careful in using our past failings in how we judge this teams perfomance. Sure its better but WE got blown out several times with CABLE as coach
Fassel 55%
Cable 49%
unknown 33%
I know it doesnt add up- what does anymore?
December 28th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
McQuistan will return next year from IR. Hopefully that will fix our RT problem. It looks as though Super Mario will stick at LT. Gallery is doing well at LG. We need to address the center position and possibly backfill Carlisle if he goes elsewhere. Our RB & FB talent will be OK for next year. We need a #2 back-up QB. Possibly Byron Leftwich might be the right guy. He should be available at the right price. WR is an area that needs attention. I don’t want Ocho Cinko. He’s a 5150 that we just don’t need. I would be interested in Houshmanzada but I doubt the Bengals won’t lock him up. Let’s see what the draft has to offer and continue to work on JLH & our rookies. We may already have what we need on the roster.
The defense is where our focus needs to go. Defense wins championships. Just ask the Ravens. The first thing AD needs to do is renegotiate a bunch of contracts, free up a bunch of cash and try & sign Asomugha. Lecher too. Then I’d say if Ray Maualuga, MLB-USC is available, he’s our number 1 pick. We can move Morrison to SSLB and that should dramatically help our run defense. I don’t expect to see Burgess return. So we do need a strong pass rush DE. We can also use an upgrade in the DT rotation. I do think we should give Huff more playing time at CB. It worked for Nhamdi and Huff did show decent pass defense ability on larger TE’s so he might work out ok at CB.
All in all, we are showing some signs of improvement. Now all we need to do is stabalize the coaching ranks and bring in a decent OC & DC.
BTW Chris Clemmons looked great for the Eagles today. Too bad we lock him up when we had him.
December 28th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Maybe retainig Lechler is more important than NAMDI??
can get picks for NAMDI but damn a hall of fame punter will be missed. YOu can scheme defenses but cant scheme kicks that pin the opponet inside the twenty.
December 28th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
Big Easy,
Davis has to keep Cable. He will not find better and a new coach introduces uncertainty. The players will probably be upset should they release Cable and bring in another unknown quantity.
December 28th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
There is a reason two HC’s started Fargas, instead of the young guy’s it’s called reliable.
Both MBush and DMC will have their chance to shine but the comfort level was with Fargas. I see DMC and Bush playing much larger roles next year. But this year it was wise to go with the veteran, nd let the young guy’s learn. But that doesn’t mean yu just throw Fargas away unless Rankin really shines in the off-season and pre-season.
I’ve said many times that I think Mbush should be the feature back in this offense and DMC the big play weapon. I don’t doubt that that’s how Cable sees it going forward.
WR and LT are no longer prioriies in my mind however I would definitely address those positions at some point. But I see the Raiders going LBer early along with the Oline.
Cable has a chance to be a very good coach most of what he did this year was by the seat of his pants a chance to sit and individually evaluate the team in the off-season and strengthen it areas of need will be his next mve. Next yea he’ll have a much better feel for how the talent should be used.
December 28th, 2008 at 11:55 pm
This year for the most part, our ST have done well when compared to years past. Isn’t Brian Schneider a Kiffin hire & possible future Tennessee ST coach? I believe his contract is up this year. Obviously AD needs to lock up what good coaches we have.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:06 am
If Cable is hired and I think he will be, the ST coach would be my first priority if I were he. The important thing for this team is continuity in as many areas as possible. I do see Robo moving on but the defense scheme more than likely wont see much change.
All the Raider neophytes want the cover2, I don’t I prefer man with a mix of different zones when needed. I would love to see more 3/4 mixed in. In years passed whenever we’ve gone with a 3/4 base our defense was more productive.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:06 am
WR, and OT are still the Raiders biggest needs. I like Chaz and JLH, and Arman shields seems destined to be a steal when healthy; Mario and Cornell Green are not good enough at tackle. Mario played solid and is a bright spot, but Cornell is a career back up and was weak for the most part of the year in pass protection. On top of that Every playoff team needs a 2nd team swing tackle coming off the bench. I can’t see the Raiders not tacking one of these players with the 7th pick: Eugene Monroe, Micheal Oher, or Jason Smith (baylor).
Also Wr needs to be added for depth and competition. I really like Austin Collie from BYU in rd 2. It may be a little early for him, but he seems the route runner JR desperately needs.
The Raiders future is Jamarcus. He has DMAC, Higgins, Chaz, and Zach, and a solid lt, but a RT and a good route runner will allow him to develop into a pro bowl QB.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:07 am
If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
- Sun Tzu
December 29th, 2008 at 12:11 am
Resigning Schneider for specials will be huge: after Harbaugh turned Baltimore into a playoff team, Schneider may even end up as a head coach: the next Cowher, John Harbaugh. Just a thought.
i want to see a good defensive coach come in. I would love wade Phillips,or Herm Edwards, Crennell, Marvin Lewis take over the defense. Phillips knows how to get to the QB. He would be my first pick: 3-4 defense.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:15 am
Mikie G, this is football. Just so you know. Nobody kills anybody. They just play football for 3 hours, and collect their million dollar pay checks. Then you wake up monday morning hungover. That’s all it is. But that’s an interesting quote but Sun Tzu, nonetheless.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:17 am
BHP, you say in years past we succeeded with the 3-4. IT was the early ’80s, actually. So, it’s more like decades past. And we were equipped for a 3-4. Don’t ruin such a great victory today by trying to break down our modern D and compare it to the ‘83 defense.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:19 am
I think we already have in place a successor for Ryan either Darren Perry or the linebacker coach. I also think Mario can be as good a LT as you need. Cable is strange in terms of players he likes for lineman there’sno telling what he will do.
We’ve done enough in my mind at WR the last two years we can let some of these yung players continue to develope unless we can steal someone but I certainly wouldn’t want to spend big money on a wideout you just don’t need it. Hell JLH an Chaz have beat the hell out of some very good corners the last 2 weeks and they’re just puppies. What else do you need?
December 29th, 2008 at 12:20 am
Michael Bush had a helluva game today, btw. I really think he’s ready to be the next great running back that Al Davis benches and eventually trades away for peanuts.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:22 am
BHP, we finished the year 3 games behind in the AFC West. Just imagine if we tossed Bush the rock instead of f**king around and putting him at fullback all of those games?
December 29th, 2008 at 12:25 am
modern? what the hell does modern mean? It’s the same stuff I’ve been seeing for 40 years.
It’s just personnel and we have the talent to run a 3/4, stop pretending yu know anything about defense or offense for that matter.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:27 am
I know I said Cable should be given another shot if he won today, but I change my mind anyway. He’s a puppet. He’ll screw it up. He wont run the ball next year. He’ll air it out. Bush was Kiffin’s guy. The running game is Kiffin’s running game. Kiffin won this game today. Cable went right to Kiffin’s playbook, sans maybe the trick play. But Bush won this game and if Kiffin were on our sideline we would have won in the same fashion. What did Russell throw for, like 100 yards? If Kiffin would have stayed, we probably would have won 4 more games in this fashion, and we’d be 9-7…oh, and on top of the AFC West. F**k Tom Cable. Al needs to scrap everyone and hire a GM, and give that GM complete control in writing. Then, the first thing the new GM should do is hire Kiffin back, or Gruden if he’s available.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:28 am
BHP, when’s the last time we had a great defense with a 3-4? Give me a year, smartass.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:30 am
Enough of your b.s, BHP. Give me a year. When was the last season we had a kickass 3-4? You know it’s in the ’80s.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:30 am
do you ever come in here for anything other than an arguement. And your boring ass anti-Al Davis rant.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:33 am
Didn’t think you could do it, BHP. Thanks for playing. Thanks for being so full of s’t so I could call you on it, again. We haven’t had a successful 3-4 since the ’80s. And you’re saying we should switch to a 3-4 because, by golly, it worked when Reagan was president. You’re a waste of time. Just go back to your Super Bowl celebration of beating Tampa bay and being 5-11.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:33 am
JRs last 4 games.. comp. pct. 63.7 6 td 4int.. thats improvment!!
December 29th, 2008 at 12:35 am
BHP, I like the production from Chaz and JLH down the stretch, but one more WR needs to be brought in for competition and depth. Banking on Arman shields, is way too risky. The same can be said going forward with Mcquistain and Mario Henderson as the starters at tackle. We still need a swing tackle for depth. Drafting Oher, Monroe or smith at the top of the draft is a no brainer. You take one of those players you have solid depth at tackle and Jamarcus will be able to start making the 3 and 4th reads consistently next year. I was pumped today to see JR stand in the pocket and scan the field. He is a real QB now and he is barely tapping his potential.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:35 am
Russell could have not even shown up today and we would have won, RaiderDK.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:38 am
MR I’m not interested in playing your game, play by yourself. OK pumpkin………….. I don’t care if it was 80 years ago his team has the ability to be a very good 3/4 defense IMO Ok sissy.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:39 am
BHP, you said we’ve had success with the 3-4 in recent years. We haven’t since the ’80s. You tried to lie, again, and were called on it. That’s all that happened here tonight. But if you want to act like a bitch and give your usual guilt trips, go ahead.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:41 am
just saying he has shown big improvment
December 29th, 2008 at 12:41 am
DK,
Yeah it was a big improvement. He was able to see see the 3-4th read on a lot of the plays and hit players in stride. The San Diego game really is dragging him down; however, you have to keep in mind that the Raiders a young team and playing a Thursday night game vs the chargers with 3 days to prepare is a a very tall order. The raider offense looked totally out of whack in this game compared to Denver, KC, Pats, Texs, and Tampa.
JR is a very good QB. You heard gannon gushing about the kid. Some people just are always going to hate no matter what.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:43 am
We should be using zone every down with our speed and pass rush. Cover 2, 3, 4, every down. Our defense isn’t that bad. We just misuse it. We would be impossible to pass on if we played zone defense. Only thing good about man is that we play the run better but it doesn’t matter because eventually opposing receivers will start to outrun our man coverage and opponents will be able to throw on us. Even Garcia was torching us today. Thank god for Bush and Kiffin’s running game.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:46 am
I don’t think Russell will ever be great. Don’t think Quinn will, either. The media hyped up both of those guys and of course Al Davis fell for it. If we had Adrian Peterson? My god…
December 29th, 2008 at 12:46 am
Dick V, I’m all for great WR’s but we’ve invested a lot in these young kids and they’re just starting to develope. Why spend a ton on more talent at the position when you may have what you want already here. Hell we haven’t even seen Shields yet and we have Carter and Walker on the payroll. I know they like the talent of Watkins as well. Let these guy’s develope first I know everyone has given up on Walker IMO that’s a mistake. He’s still a very good player that can help us. Too many WR’s already.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:49 am
We invested a lot in them? Sounds like scholarship players to me, BHP.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:51 am
Today’s victory was in large part due to the running of M.Bush. M.Bush was not in there b/c of “coaching”. The situation presented itself, there was no coaching involved. I am not sure about unproven Cable. 4-8 does not seal the deal. I know he is a great O-line coach. If he does not get the call to be the Raiders HC, you can count on him leaving Oakland. Then what is going to happen to the running game? No way Parcel’s is gonna give up 8 mil and get paid less to come to this asylum. I recall Martz decided to stop running the back that got them to the sb. He decied not to run the ball, for who knows why and they ended up slipping fast. Martz was let go. The niners present offense is nothing special, under Martz. Jim Fassel? He is a good D-coach but not a very good HC. Maybe Martz as OC, Fassel as DC and Cable as HC? Who knows what Al will do?
December 29th, 2008 at 12:51 am
We should cut everyone except for Nnamdi, Bush, and Miller, BHP. Invest in them. Invest in the good that we have. What a concept!
December 29th, 2008 at 12:52 am
Now the Oline I’m all for adding more quality and depth also we need to add talent along the Dline and my wish pick is the MLBer from USC.
The developement of Chaz and JLH bolster the WR position and it’s a good veteran and youth mix.
well I’ll call it a nite
Adios
December 29th, 2008 at 12:55 am
Adios, BHP. Remember, honesty is best policy. Stop trying to lie to make it seem like everything is better than it really is in Alameda. There’s always someone like me that will expose you. Goodnight.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:57 am
Tampa’s going to fire Gruden tomorrow. Davis is going to hire him back to get even with Kiffin. Chucky II. In April Chucky and Al are going to draft an overrated kicker with the first pick, for old time’s sake; And we’re going to go 12-4 next year.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:06 am
we need
WR (plaxico burress)
Center
Right Tackle
Defensive Tackle
Outside Linebacker
and maybe Left Tackle
December 29th, 2008 at 1:12 am
Cable’s made his case for being head coach. He should definetely be given a chance.
At the same time, we need that executive (GM) that Al promised back at the press conference.
Get ‘em hired Al and do it now!
December 29th, 2008 at 1:12 am
BHP,
We are #7 pick in the draft, I don’t think USC MLB will be available that late in the draft.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:16 am
Russell has really played well in the last three games.
Two examples in particular:
1. The Raiders got the ball back when the defense held with 1:54 left in the first half. Russell then took them all the down for a score. He was 8 of 12 and 116 yards at the half.
2. The interception was a real bad pass but Russell kept his head and was impressively cool after that happened.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:19 am
A lot of coaching contracts are up. We should try and keep the special teams coordinator. He’s done a great job.
December 29th, 2008 at 2:55 am
Memo Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Rey Malaeuga with the 7th pick. It would most likely be a DB who ran a 4.3…
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Blackholepriest Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:52 am
Now the Oline I’m all for adding more quality and depth also we need to add talent along the Dline and my wish pick is the MLBer from USC.
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Maualua sucks against the pass.
Against Gates, Schefler and Gonzales he’d get killed. Oaklands looking at an every down MLB like maybe Brandon Spikes.
Really need to address this position, but not sure if Rey Rey is our Ray Ray.
December 29th, 2008 at 4:30 am
Haven’t you all heard??
Parcells is our GM next year, Mike Shannahan HC, Gruden our OC and Wade Phillips our DC..
December 29th, 2008 at 4:55 am
Go Colts, Go Manning!!!
December 29th, 2008 at 5:01 am
Nnamdi… c’mon, man. You’re smarter than that. Ain’t no MLB gonna cover the tight end on a regular basis (with an intelligent DC, anyway). Besides, we’ve got enough LBs who are too light in the britches as it is. Yeah, they can run, but they get pushed around when it gets nasty.
That said, I think we go o-line early. JR is the franchise and we need to give him every opportunity to succeed. I still think we need to trade down, though, and get one of the three centers and a RT. BHP is right (God, did I just say that?) that we should let our young WRs develop further. It’s why Al brought Lofton in last year and he’s done a good job with them; there will be guys available there after we get the real priorities taken care of.
Unless we get really lucky with free agency, though, we’re still a year away. Only a great draft and the absolute right free agents will vault us ahead of schedule. Yeah, the Dolts won the division at 8-8 but don’t expect that to be good enough next year; SD was really banged up this year. Even the Rat gets a pass; we all know how much they rely on their running game in Denver and they went through how many tailbacks due to injury?
I’m confident that Al will address the needs we have. I just don’t know if we can do it all in one offseason…
December 29th, 2008 at 5:03 am
edward
not bad
December 29th, 2008 at 5:23 am
No doubt why if the Raiders drafted maulagua would he be covering the te when we have howard , we need some hard hitters on d.
December 29th, 2008 at 5:25 am
yup, we need a MottaFukker in the middle, not some ballhawk, we have two of those…
December 29th, 2008 at 5:41 am
for each second that goes, I hate RoRy even more, could/should have kept Chris Clemons, could have drafted Curtis Lofton..
December 29th, 2008 at 5:49 am
Was Jerry drunk when he wrote this column?
I understand that two wins in a row is cause for a few drinks, but write the column first.
I don’t think I’ve seen this many typos and grammatical errors in my life.
December 29th, 2008 at 5:57 am
Tke..
you obviously haven’t read any of my posts =) lol
good post =)
December 29th, 2008 at 6:06 am
“He was put in as tough a situation as there is,” center Jake Grove said. “When Lane quit on this team at about Week 1, and for him to come in and set a standard and hold us to that. … I’d love to see him here as coach.”
December 29th, 2008 at 6:09 am
I want to hear what “your all’s” grades for the Raiders players are for this year.
Ndamdi- A (by the way he was picked as the best CB in the entire NFL by Danish TV last night.
Chris Johnson – B+
H. Eugene – C-
G. Wilson – B-
T. Howard – B -
K. Morrison – C +
J. Alston – C
K. Edwards – C+
D. Burgess – D
T. Sands – D
T. Kelly – C
T. Scott – C +
Richardson – C
Who wants to rank the O?
December 29th, 2008 at 6:14 am
Green – D-
Carlise – C
Grove – D
Gallery – B +
Harris – F
Mario Henderson – C-
JaMarcus – D+
Fargas C-
McFadden D+
Bush C+
Luke Lawton C-
Zach Miller – B
J. Walker F
Curry D+
Higgins B-
Schillens C-
Lelie D
Jano B
Shane Lechler A
J. Miller B+
December 29th, 2008 at 6:14 am
CopenhagenFan.
I think Alston was better than Morrison this season..
And Kelly was a D in my book, Sands aswell..
rashad Baker was better than Hiram Eugene.. I hope Eugene only will be a backup or ST player in the future..
December 29th, 2008 at 6:15 am
CopenhagenFan… did yuo hear when they all had a cough-attack =) maaaan that was funny =)
December 29th, 2008 at 6:16 am
nå ja Alston havde den der frække fake punt ha ha
December 29th, 2008 at 6:16 am
jaaa that was real funny! Shane was also named punter of the year!
December 29th, 2008 at 6:17 am
Alston is better in run-defense
December 29th, 2008 at 6:17 am
LMN is Kelly a D because of his salary?
December 29th, 2008 at 6:18 am
Cool, didn’t see that, I assume i was taking a leak or something =)
December 29th, 2008 at 6:19 am
HA! The media hyped up Jamarcus Russell…No Missy, his play in SEC competition, his record, and his leadership is what made him the #1 overall pick.
December 29th, 2008 at 6:20 am
cFAN…
his head is just as empty as sands, stupid mental mistakes, he cost us much in the games… that gives him a D, if I take his salary into consideration he might land on a low F..
December 29th, 2008 at 6:21 am
i think we need to stop fcuking over our draft choices in favor of a high priced free agent…
i actually like our receiving corps… that is, the ones that played yesterday…
let’s run with those guys… dump walker, curry… give lelie a shot in preseason… if he doesn’t measure up, send him down the road…
i wanted Lofton last year… and we still need a “Lofton”… i haven’t picked my candidate MLB yet… i tend to shy away from the big names… but a solid MLB is our biggest need…
second on the list of needs is more “D” line… we need a DT and an end… i like drafting DEs, but i would rather trade for or sign a DT… DT is not a “boy” position, it’s the one spot where you do want some experience and maturity… we need a good rotation on our “D” line…
i’ve always thought of wr’s as a dime a dozen… finding the guy that is not afraid and will catch the ball is what’s special… but again, imho, wide outs are a dime a dozen…
the place where our “O” needs an upgrade is center… Grove should have been a good pick… and who really knows if he wasn’t… the disaster that was Shell pretty much ruined both Gallery and Grove… Gallery looks like he will overcome and become a decent guard… Grove is done… and of course we need a little more back-up on the line… drafting at least one linemen every year should be our standard operating procedure… (same for the D-line)…
with the exception of signing Aso… i say lets close the checkbook… no more big contracts for free agents for a while…
i really like this team… we have a few holes to fill…
but not many…
December 29th, 2008 at 6:22 am
Bwahahahhaa Mangini is out!! lol, what an adventure that was =) and what will RoRy do now??
December 29th, 2008 at 6:23 am
Pete..I know you want a Sam Adams/Ted Washington retread action at DT just like the old Al days ha ha
December 29th, 2008 at 6:23 am
Mangini out?? That was a tough break for him actually.
December 29th, 2008 at 6:26 am
Favre played like a chump the last part of the season.
December 29th, 2008 at 6:27 am
Agree with Pete…no more big FA deals. I’d rather take hungry young talent and try to develop them.
December 29th, 2008 at 6:27 am
yeah..
and Mangine and Tannebaum, said if we get these 4 players we will win..
well they got them, and the didn’t win… hence Mangini out and I bet Tannenbaum is on his way =)
December 29th, 2008 at 6:30 am
LMN Maybe Rob Ryan will be HC in NYC
December 29th, 2008 at 6:31 am
BHP, Pete and Andrew’s Mom…..should Al keep Rob Ryan?
December 29th, 2008 at 6:32 am
♫ Hey you, you’re livin’, Life full throttle Hey you, pass me down that Bottle, yeah Hey you, you cant shake
Me round now ♫
December 29th, 2008 at 6:33 am
cFAN..
lol, yeah, that would kill him, those NewYorkers would hang him from the brooklyn bridge =)
December 29th, 2008 at 6:33 am
LMN what’s your grade for “Jammy”?
December 29th, 2008 at 6:37 am
cFAN..
rather high actually.. he has a fragile mind, and having 3 playcallers and yet get better says a lot about him..
Ill give him a C+
December 29th, 2008 at 6:38 am
i want us to find the “next” sam adams, ted washington, tony siragusa…
that’s what i want…
i want an immovable object…
and it wouldn’t bother me if we had to use a hand truck to wheel him out to his position…
December 29th, 2008 at 6:39 am
Marinelli our next DC? or Wade Phillips?
December 29th, 2008 at 6:40 am
Fl pete…
then we just need a way to get him on and off the field =) lol
December 29th, 2008 at 6:40 am
Copenhagen_Fan Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 6:31 am
BHP, Pete and Andrew’s Mom…..should Al keep Rob Ryan?
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my thinking is:
hire Cable to be the next HC… then let him decide…
should be done quickly…
December 29th, 2008 at 6:42 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 6:40 am
Fl pete…
then we just need a way to get him on and off the field =) lol
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clearly, this could be a secondary purpose for the little motorized cart they use for injured players…
December 29th, 2008 at 6:44 am
I say keep the Cable guy….but Rob Ryan has GOT to go now…..he had his chance and just got worse !
December 29th, 2008 at 6:45 am
Steve Corkran writes:
Cable has spent the past three months attempting to build a case as to why Davis should remove the interim label and hire Cable permanently not long after today’s regular-season finale against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers ends.
“We have not talked about it yet,” Cable said earlier this week. “I hope we will soon. I definitely hope we will soon.”
Oh, they will. Perhaps not on the flight home from Tampa but certainly within a day or two from now. Two people familiar with the situation said Davis has a pretty good idea where he is headed next season and that he intends to begin implementation of his plan within days of the season-ending game.
Deciding whether to make Cable the permanent coach sits atop Davis’ to-do list. The matter isn’t as simple as it might seem, though.
First off, Davis has to abide by a league rule — the Rooney Rule — that requires a team to interview at least one minority candidate before it hires a coach.
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Any chance we’ll see Cable retained as Head Coach this week? what do you guys think? impressive win yesterday..
December 29th, 2008 at 6:46 am
ooops… i am no longer incognito…
uh, for those of my raider brethren who don’t read much…
incognito is not a small gear in an italian racecar…
it is to be in disguise…
December 29th, 2008 at 6:54 am
Rob Ryan’s defense allowed 24 points. We still couldn’t stop the run. Earnest Graham is on IR and Cadillac Williams got hurt in the 4th quarter. Even worse, the Bucs combo of Williams/Dunn combined for 115 yards on 22 carries (over 5.2 yards per carry) and 2 touchdowns …
The offense won this game for us. Michael Bush did. revenge is sweet. way to exit the NFL Monte, enjoy the college ranks!
December 29th, 2008 at 6:54 am
Al called a good game yesterday from his loft in Oakland but he still needs to give Parcells a phone call.
December 29th, 2008 at 6:56 am
I understand the need for a MLB; it’s big. I wonder, though, if maybe we wouldn’t be better served trying to fill that position through FA first. Seems like you’d want a younger veteran in there calling the defenses rather than a rookie? There are some good ones this year; Farrior from the Steelers comes to mind as an example, and Channing Crowder from the Fins. Jonathan Vilma is a FA and so is Bart Scott from the Ravens…
December 29th, 2008 at 6:58 am
By the way Davis and Parcells are close friends and as of this morning the Dolphins will be sold around the first of the year, its a done deal.
December 29th, 2008 at 6:59 am
# Florida Pete Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 6:46 am
ooops… i am no longer incognito…
uh, for those of my raider brethren who don’t read much…
incognito is not a small gear in an italian racecar…
it is to be in disguise…
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no quite, but close… its to be yourself, somewhere, without being recognized..
December 29th, 2008 at 6:59 am
i don’t know that it must be a MLB calling the defenses…
just slide Morrison over to OLB and he still can do it…
December 29th, 2008 at 7:00 am
# La Milicia Negra Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 4:30 am
Haven’t you all heard??
Parcells is our GM next year, Mike Shannahan HC, Gruden our OC and Wade Phillips our DC..
December 29th, 2008 at 7:02 am
Good point, Pete. That’s just the traditionalist in me speaking, I guess.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:02 am
Adjective: incognito
Without being known; in disguise; in an assumed character, or under an assumed title
December 29th, 2008 at 7:03 am
…Post #250 Kirk,…I couldn’t agree more. Jellyfish Cable should be retained as O-line coach though…
…I’ll bet that Caveman Ryan has the same feeling as those unfortunate individuals that participated in the Valkerye plot to kill Hitler had after that failed attempt….Holy Cow!!! Could any of you actually imagine a SNL skit where upon Cable is transported back in time to mastermind a plot to kill Hitler ? (…I can clearly hear the Benny Hill background music to accompany this…). Based upon Jellyfish’s erroneous conclusion that required the only player on the roster with a pickled liver swollen enough to even rivalCaveman Ryan’s to run 17 yards for a first down…(…again…think of the end of the Benny hill Show…)…
…Please deposit both Caveman Ryan, Jellyfish Cable, ( and throw in Dick Cheney for good measure..), in a small dinghy in the middle of the Artic Ocean.
Then promptly shoot a hole through the hull…
..LMN, Dakota,…check out Lincoln by David Donald, and The Class of 1846 by John Wauch…
December 29th, 2008 at 7:04 am
of course, this means that MR has been “incognito” for as long as he has been here…
masquerading as a Raider fan…
December 29th, 2008 at 7:07 am
We shoud go with the Dline first, trade burgess, fargass, curry and walker if we can get anything for them I would be happy. If we load up on 2nd and 3rd rounders we can fix our glaring needs in the later rounds, I know everyone is looking at crabtree, shoot I love his game. I can assure you that there’s someone else out there just as explosive and much of a playmaker like him out there……hope we scout well
December 29th, 2008 at 7:08 am
the greatest soccer playerscould go to the US without disguise, and beincognito because no-one would recognize.. same with lets say Drew Brees, he could walk around in Italy with out being known..
thats incognito. they do not need a disguise.. thats incognito..
our CrownPrince was incognito for 4 years at harward..
December 29th, 2008 at 7:08 am
Pete… here’s your guy:
Ron Brace NT/DT Boston College 6-3/330
Projected round 3 or 4
I think they moved BJ Raji (sp?) to the other tackle position to take advantage of both players’ skillsets.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:11 am
SKA..
okay, I will… David Donald was on Jon Stewart, looked pretty interesting..
December 29th, 2008 at 7:12 am
If he needs to put on more weight we could just have him hang with Terdell during the offseason…
December 29th, 2008 at 7:13 am
Here a great article for all the Gruden lovers like MR(and for the rest of us that dislike them).
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/orl-whitley2908dec29,0,4159806.column
December 29th, 2008 at 7:13 am
senile king aricept…
right now im reading..
http://www.amazon.com/Man-Without-Face-Markus-Wolf/dp/1891620126/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1230563527&sr=1-1
really really good
December 29th, 2008 at 7:13 am
LMN (post 372),
That would be cool. But…Parcells and Shanarat; i don’t think will come here. Gruden…I don’t know if he’ll come back, unless given full control like he wanted last time. Phillips…that one is up in the air. We all can dream, though, can’t we? … Okay, Parcells did mention the Raiders on his radar, but…
December 29th, 2008 at 7:15 am
LMN…
i surrender…
(this does not mean i am French)
(and i still lay claim to my German heritage)
December 29th, 2008 at 7:15 am
Looks like Dennis Green might get a call LOL….or maybe Lofton will get interviewed for the 4th time.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:16 am
I wonder if they still met at Barber’s house after the game lol.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:17 am
Yeah but thats just b.s to have to interview a black, the niners went ahead and avoided having to interview a white coach or thats probably not in the rules.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:19 am
Hwrndr
man a difficult nick.. yeah it was more for kicks i posted it.. i have no idea who and what will happen.. only one demand thats RoRy gone, and only one wish a real GM with REAL GM powers (not the cars, torque and such)
December 29th, 2008 at 7:22 am
# Florida Pete Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 7:15 am
LMN…
i surrender…
(this does not mean i am French)
(and i still lay claim to my German heritage)
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LOL funny stuff, No worries bro’´..
btw the french still claim they never lost anything..lol
December 29th, 2008 at 7:22 am
LMN (Post 407),
No…no Marinelli. Phillips, if he’ll come here. And I’m not saying that because of the 0-16 Campaign this year. Just don’t know if he will be the answer.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:23 am
Al Davis Underoos Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 7:13 am
Here a great article for all the Gruden lovers like MR(and for the rest of us that dislike them).
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/orl-whitley2908dec29,0,4159806.column
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i want you to post that link every hour, on the hour…
i want all Gruden fans to see what they would be in for if he were to return…
oh, and guess how old that roster is in Tampa…
if you guessed “old”, you guessed right…
Gruden likes senior citizens…
and that cost the Raiders big-time after Gruden left…
checkbook recruiting is not the way to build a team… it is the way to complete a team… that is, getting that last piece or two of the puzzle…
December 29th, 2008 at 7:24 am
Al doesn’t like Gruden’s offensive philosophy, and wouldn’t stand for it with JR at QB. Hell, Kiffin’s approach pissed him off and it wasn’t that different than Gruden’s.
IF Cable stays I think you’ll see an attempt to get someone creative enough to get Bush and Dmac involved on a regular basis. The new guy (if there is one) will have to demonstrate to Al that he knows how to get the ball down the field as well. I just don’t think Al sees JR as a dink and dunk kinda QB.
Still wouldn’t be shocked to see Gilbride.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:24 am
Here’s another good one for the Gruden shills (MR).
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/dec/28/281920/bucs-fold-complete-great-crash/sports-bucs/
December 29th, 2008 at 7:25 am
Marrinelli was okay in tampa, and wade phillips have showed he could be a good DC…
Idon´t know just flopping the idea =)
December 29th, 2008 at 7:25 am
LMN (post 437),
I agree with you. RoRy has had 5 years, and nothing. No worry, I was dreaming on that one too. Wouldn’t that be something, though? Enemies of Al working for Al? LOL.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:26 am
in danger of sounding stupid… who is gilbride?
December 29th, 2008 at 7:28 am
I cant believe people are still downplaying the skills of Rey Maualuga as if he’s some kind of scrub, saying he plays too reckless,,,,that’s what a MLB is supposed to do. PLAY RECKLESS! He’s not covering any TEs thats what OLBs are for. It seems that people are ignoring the fact that he’s was awarded this years best defensive player of the year, (not LB position) but overall defensive player. I dont know what games some of you all have been but all of the games I’v watched he’s in on just about every play and always around the ball. Watch what he does to Penn St. and let’s see if he’s worth taking a #7. My money is on Sting-Rey.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:28 am
I’d take Rod Marinelli over Ryan any day.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:28 am
OC for Giants and a run and gun scheme freak, the Raiders won’t get him.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:29 am
# Copenhagen_Fan Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 7:28 am
I’d take Rod Marinelli over Ryan any day.
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+1, but I still think Wade would be better!
December 29th, 2008 at 7:30 am
Gilbride is the OC for the old Chuck and Duck….He’d be perfect for Jammy ha ha
December 29th, 2008 at 7:30 am
Post 448,
I doubt it. Gilbride is a good OC, but if somehow Ryan is kept, he may get into it with Gilbride because of his dad famously punching him in the face. you gotta admit, though; that was funny television.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:30 am
# Al Davis Underoos Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 7:28 am
OC for Giants and a run and gun scheme freak, the Raiders won’t get him.
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ahh thats right, the name was remindign me of something.. and spagnoulo their DC, right?
December 29th, 2008 at 7:30 am
Gilbride was the OC for Houstan when they lost to the Bills in the playoffs way back in the early ninties, it is still the biggest comeback in NFL history I think. All Gilbride had to do was run the clcok with a 35-3 halftime lead but he kept throwing and they lost like 38-35 or something, I forget the actual score but the Raiders don’t need him.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:32 am
LMN Wade is a pretty good call actually. He’s a “Player’s coach” …I’m sure that appeals to Al. But he’s ex Chargers and Donkeys
December 29th, 2008 at 7:32 am
The more I think about it, Wade is perfect for the Raiders…he’s fat and sloppy….Al loves that.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:33 am
Cable will work for whatever Davis offers so I think for that reason he is a shoe in for HC.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:33 am
The Raiders might get him if they offer him the Head coaching job. Al is on record as being interested, and we do have a lot of talented young weapons to work with. New York could be losing two of their three backs to free agency and Gilbride might just be intrigued enough with the young talent here to make the move.
He has demonstrated that he can use multiple weapons and is not afraid to throw the ball downfield…
December 29th, 2008 at 7:34 am
Davis needs Parcells more than a new HC.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:34 am
RaiderCraig
12/29/2008
While Coach Cable had his ups and downs and I’ve questioned him at times, I think at this point in time I totally back him for being the next Head Coach of the Raiders. With all the other head coaching vacancies, I don’t think we can do much better than Cable. Sure there are better options out there, but none will ever sign on to coach a team owned by Al Davis.
Here’s where I think our off-season priorities lay:
1. Get a GM here ASAP!!!
2. Hire a coach. If it’s Coach Cable, fine, but bring him some help, which leads us to…
3. Hire an Offensive and Defensive Coordinator.
ROB RYAN HAS GOT TO GO!!!!
4. Lock up Nnamdi.
5. Focus our draft on the Offensive and Defensive Line.
6. NO STUPID SIGNINGS (like Walker, Harris and Hall).
7. Don’t let Al Davis travel with the team. See how well we play when he’s not calling the sidelines (just kidding… Well sort of:-))
8. Trade RaiderHz to the Jets Forum so we don’t ever have to hear his stupid A$$ Again.
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post from another forum… and i agree!
December 29th, 2008 at 7:35 am
see ya all, have to go, downtown, catch up later
December 29th, 2008 at 7:36 am
Copenhagen… have you actually watched the Giants play offense? Chuck and duck is not what they do there. They pound the ball on the ground, mix in three different styles of running backs, and throw the ball down the field.
You might want to watch some of their games.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:37 am
Just remember every Houstan fan at the time threw that punch at Gilbride with Buddy Ryan in their own minds.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:37 am
ESPN’s Chris Mortensen included the Raiders as a team executive vice president Bill Parcells is interested in
The Raiders will have the No. 7 pick in the 2009 NFL draft
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Woohoo! Parcells & Cable in 2009 baby! Eugene Monroe is the guy. (Hopefully not Taylor Mays!)
December 29th, 2008 at 7:43 am
Bill Spills Alot Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
Bartender – “Hey, welcome to Wyoming! You look like a couple of super cool dudes!”
909 – “Indeed we are. We met on an online football blog and decided to drive to the middle of the country to meet in person.”
Dakota – “I’m kind of like the leader of the bloggers. Everyone respects my opinions and I haven’t had sex with my wife since 1983.”
Bartender – “Um, we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.”
909 – “Wanna hear my mock draft predictions?”
Dakota – “How about this hilarious link to a clip from Commando?”
Bartender (pulls out shotgun) – “OUT!”
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I have to admit, that is some funny stuff. All the same though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyPJBJCU28I
December 29th, 2008 at 7:44 am
I’d take Rod Marinelli over Ryan any day
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me too. Wade Phillips is staying in Dallas at least 1 more year according to Jones…
December 29th, 2008 at 7:44 am
Underoos… I’m not going to get in an argument with you, but two things stand out: number one, there’s a pretty good chance RR won’t be back here, and number two that incident was almost 15 years ago! Plus, Buddy Ryan was an asshole and everybody knows it. (Not a very good HC, either, look up his record.)
Last time I checked, Gilbride’s offense helped the Giants win the Super Bowl a year ago and they have the number one seed in the NFC this year. He was also instrumental in developing Eli Manning, who just about got run out of New York before he got there.
I’ll take the recent record, thank you. It’s infinitely more relevant.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:46 am
Cable will work for whatever Davis offers so I think for that reason he is a shoe in for HC.
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so true it hurts …
December 29th, 2008 at 7:47 am
Congrats Raiders on a good comeback win. Down 10 points scoring 17 unanswered!
Game ball to Fargas for staying on the sidelines while
Bush carried the team to victory.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:48 am
Ironic that one of the players Cable pushed aside in favor of lesser talent and then asked to play out of position is the player to which Cable owes his slight chance at retaining his job.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:49 am
Here’s where I think our off-season priorities lay:
1. Get a GM here ASAP!!!
2. Hire a coach. If it’s Coach Cable, fine, but bring him some help, which leads us to…
3. Hire an Offensive and Defensive Coordinator.
ROB RYAN HAS GOT TO GO!!!!
4. Lock up Nnamdi.
5. Focus our draft on the Offensive and Defensive Line.
6. NO STUPID SIGNINGS (like Walker, Harris and Hall).
7. Don’t let Al Davis travel with the team. See how well we play when he’s not calling the sidelines (just kidding… Well sort of:-))
8. Trade RaiderHz to the Jets Forum so we don’t ever have to hear his idiot self Again.
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LMN, just replace “RaiderHz” with “MR” in the 8th point and that’s a near perfect post …
December 29th, 2008 at 7:52 am
stabler76 Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 7:47 am
Congrats Raiders on a good comeback win. Down 10 points scoring 17 unanswered!
Game ball to Fargas for staying on the sidelines while
Bush carried the team to victory.
That is some funny sh*8…
December 29th, 2008 at 7:54 am
Ironic that one of the players Cable pushed aside in favor of lesser talent and then asked to play out of position is the player to which Cable owes his slight chance at retaining his job.
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I was hoping Fargas would finish the season healthy and we might be able to trade him in the offseason. However, had he not got injured Michael Bush might have been the one traded and that as we all know would have been a huge mistake. Now if Cable is retained, he’s got to find a way to cut ties with Fargas, Curry and Harris on offense – even if Fargas is a Davis scholarship guy.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:54 am
edward teach Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 7:44 am
Underoos… I’m not going to get in an argument with you, but two things stand out: number one, there’s a pretty good chance RR won’t be back here, and number two that incident was almost 15 years ago! Plus, Buddy Ryan was an asshole and everybody knows it. (Not a very good HC, either, look up his record.)
Last time I checked, Gilbride’s offense helped the Giants win the Super Bowl a year ago and they have the number one seed in the NFC this year. He was also instrumental in developing Eli Manning, who just about got run out of New York before he got there.
I’ll take the recent record, thank you. It’s infinitely more relevant.
Yeah, time does heal all wounds and I don’t think that Ryan will still be here, also. even if he was, don’t think that there should be any trouble unless Buddy comes back…but he is a good OC, don’t know about HC, but will be a great addition.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:58 am
and dont 4get:We have Mark Wilson OT 6-7,320lbs out of Cal who is only in his 3rd year,on IR
December 29th, 2008 at 7:59 am
what’s up with Shane & Nnamdi cleaning out their lockers prior to the game in Tampa?
not something I would expect from these 2 players… Is that a move by their agent to show the organization that they want out? clearly appears that way to me.
1. make an offer to Shane Lechler. One that would make him the highest paid punter in the league. If he refuses, let him walk. at least we tried…
2. Tag Nnamdi. then offer him a long term deal that would make him the highest paid CB in the league. If he refuses, allow him to search for a new team and accept nothing less than what the Chiefs got for Jared Allen (a player 1 DUI away from a year suspension).
December 29th, 2008 at 8:00 am
Can we trade Kwame Harris to Memphis for Marc Gasol?
December 29th, 2008 at 8:01 am
LMN…thanks, I’ll check it out…Keep Cable?…
If Parcells becomes GM…I suppose Jellyfish does get style points for the “juggernaught”,(two consecutive wins…), as he is learning on the job, as is Chubbu-excuse me- Jamarcus…I’m worried however that , as someone else mentioned earlier, Cable is really ” Joe Bugel 2.0″…..At least we have a hell of a lot more hope than we did after either the N.E. or Atlanta debacles…
December 29th, 2008 at 8:02 am
If Parcells comes in, it is going to freak a lot of people out. He doesn’t like big ticket “superstars” at all. It will blow your minds how many players he will get rid of. But hey, he took the Dolphins from 1-15 to Division Champs in a single season. He has a real talent for getting rid of highly paid “prima donnas” and helping the payroll out while putting players who are winners in.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:02 am
Kevin Gilbride will remain with the Giants unless someone offers to make him Head Coach. He doesn’t have a successful record as Head Coach. He might be another Norv Turner. Good play caller, terrible authority figure & discipline guy …
Tom Cable is a better fit imo. I wonder what Bill Parcells thinks of Tommy?
December 29th, 2008 at 8:02 am
Italian race cars are now equipped with what???
December 29th, 2008 at 8:04 am
Good morning everyone I was reading all the posts made during the night last night and I have to call out MR on his stupidity once again. Its clearly obvious that he is greatly intimidated by the knowledge of BHP.
MR you stupid fool Rob Ryan ran the 3-4 his first year here and Warren Sapp had problems adjusting to it so they went back the next near. The Dallas Cowboys, Miami Dolphins and the Pittsburgh Steelers are a few teams that come to mind that are currently using a 3-4 defense.
You do not have to go back to the 1980’s to see the 3-4 defense you are very wrong MR.
Next thing
What won the game for us yesterday was our O-Line. Russell had all day to throw the ball and Bush ran well because there was blocking. I remember at one point Gannon saying there are 8-9 men in the box there is no way the Raiders will run then Bush runs for 7 yards.
If you can run successfully while teams are stacking the box against you then I would have to attribute that to a good O-line and good blocking by the TE and FB.
You owe BHP an apology MR he is right…..and all you do is try to start fights in here because you have zero football knowledge.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:05 am
Can we trade Kwame Harris to Memphis for Marc Gasol?
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Can we trade Kwame Harris back to the 49ers for Barry Sims?
December 29th, 2008 at 8:06 am
He has a real talent for getting rid of highly paid “prima donnas” and helping the payroll out while putting players who are winners in.
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Trojan: so Parcells would get rid of Javon Walker? Parcells is now my favorite for VP/GM/Exec .. ANYTHING!
December 29th, 2008 at 8:08 am
Things I like about Gilbride;
1. He has shown that he can work with mulitple weapons.
2. He is not afraid to throw deep.
3. He has had success with Eli, who is a low-key
southern kid, relatively unflappable and
coachable. That pretty much describes JR.
4. He has been to the dance.
Things I’m not sure about;
1. Their blocking scheme is different than ours.
2. Are we willing to change it?
December 29th, 2008 at 8:10 am
….As much as I respect Fargas’ effort, he is a first rate second rate back…Imagine what Bush will do with an upgraded O-line ?
Hardly mentioned, was that our secondary wasn’t torched due to Nnamdi’s absence yesterday…
What I did notice, as per usual, we can’t either stop the run, or play disiplined…
Please put Kwame Harris on that dinghy as well…
December 29th, 2008 at 8:10 am
SilverNblack666, if you are going to come in here spouting off at least get your facts straight. I said you have to go back to the 1980’s to see a successful 3-4 defense you moron. If you call that garbage Rob Ryan and Al Davis put on the field back in 2005 or so a successful 3-4 you need a lot of help. No apology necessary, everyone can see that you are challenged.
MR Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:30 am
Enough of your b.s, BHP. Give me a year. When was the last season we had a kickass 3-4? You know it’s in the ’80s.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:11 am
Al, give Cable the boot….today please.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:13 am
S&B666… don’t forget the Baltimore Ravens. They do ok with the 3-4, I think.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:14 am
i don’t like a 3-4…
it’s way too much burden on the NT…
i like the 4-3 with a good rotation…
just my opinion…
let ‘er rip…
December 29th, 2008 at 8:14 am
Treach..I’ve seen the Giants and know they pound the ball…..It was just a joke
To be honest, this is the first time that a Gilbride offense pounded the ball in his career. He was chuck and duck for the Oilers and Falcons.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:16 am
I like the 4-3 if we have Howie, Sean Jones and Greg Townsend.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:16 am
One would have to believe that a worthless parasite like Walker would be gone no matter who is running things.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:17 am
Dakota Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 8:00 am
Can we trade Kwame Harris to Memphis for Marc Gasol?
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Only if Al hires Jerry West as his GM.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:17 am
Please stop with the Bill Parcells fantasy! I would love to see him sporting a Silver and Black sweater at the upcoming NFL Combine, but it is not going to happen!
Like I said before, the clause that Parcells put in his contract to get out if the Phins were sold was specifically drafted for the small possibility that Al Davis might actually buy the Phins! lol. No way would he work for Al unless Al handed him the keys, and we all know that is not going to happen either!
And Al pay someone $12 million bucks to do the job Al thinks he is the greatest ever at doing? Ha.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:23 am
damn it! with mangenius out in NY where’s Robo going?
December 29th, 2008 at 8:23 am
I love the “Raiders” news ESPN had scrolling on the bottom line last night….Al Davis will begin implementing his offseason plan in the next few days.”
No sheet? Isn’t that what all teams do after the season?
And what is this plan?
1. Fire Tom Cable;
2. Re-sign Rob Ryan;
3. Hire Art Shell;
4. Take a nap until February;
5. Sign the free agents with the most mental problems and knee injuries.
Wow, I can’t wait!
December 29th, 2008 at 8:24 am
Hardly mentioned, was that our secondary wasn’t torched due to Nnamdi’s absence yesterday…
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SKA: good point. Fabian Washington is gone. DeAngelo Hall is gone. Nnamdi Asomugha was injured. Stanford Routt was injured. Chris Johnson is 29 years old, starting for the first year. Even still, CJ, Miller, Baker, Eugene & Wilson formed a solid secondary. Huff & D. Brown didn’t make an impact. Branch & Bowie are on IR. Antonio Bryant was held to 3 catches for 77 yards. We don’t need ANY defensive backs in free agency or the draft. Nnamdi or no Nnamdi, we’re fine at DB. BUILD THE LINES ! bring in a decent DC.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:27 am
Copenhagen… for you or anyone else that needs FACTS about Gilbride… view his bio on Giants.com, or go to
nfldraftbible.com and look up “Kevin Gilbride-Magician or Genius or Both?”
He never coached for the Falcons, and Warren Moon was his QB in Houston. Hardly a dink and dunk kinda guy. He also was Coughlin’s OC in Jacksonville and was requested specifically by Coughlin for the Giants. Coughlin doesn’t strike me as someone that would tolerate someone soft on the discipline issue.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:28 am
Dakota,
Don’t forget Al bringing in Millen as GM…
December 29th, 2008 at 8:28 am
with mangenius out in NY where’s Robo going?
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Rex Ryan might throw him a bone and allow him to come to Baltimore as a LB coach? Would Eric Mangini make a good OC for the Raiders? He’s more creative than Greg Knapp, who is headed for Seattle anyways …
December 29th, 2008 at 8:28 am
The Raiders appeared to put the “woe is me” syndrome behind them in coming back from a 10-point deficit on the road. Cable said it was something the Raiders couldn’t have done two months ago.
“No chance. We didn’t trust each other, didn’t depend on each each other enough to do that,” Cable said.
– The most important player on the Raiders wants Tom Cable as his head coach.
“He brought us from one direction and took us up the ladder,” quarterback JaMarcus Russell said. “He always told us that deep down he thought we were a good football team. By him becoming (head) coach, he guided us in a different way. He talked to us about what needed to be done, we need to make some changes and within that, I think we did.”
Do I think Cable is a great head coach? no
Do I think Cable is the best chance for a winning season next year? yes
He took a team in absolute disarray from top to bottom and had them playing together as a team, fighting for wins at the end of a meaningless season.
Cable needs to stay the head coach, if he doesn’t, we lose the players that have bought in to him. We need to bring in the likes of Del Rio(if he’s let go) as DC and Harbough as OC to work with JR. With DelRio’s HC experience he can help cable out alot and really be able to concentrate on the D. Harbough knows what it takes to be a QB in the NFL and has coaching experience. Can we get these guys , probably, will we probably not. If we do, huge chance at a big turn around.
And I must say to all the JR’s a bust types, me thinks you jumped the gun, give him time and weapons- then if he puts up the stinkers next season we’ll talk.
passer rating last 3 games: 85.7, 128.1, 98.9
December 29th, 2008 at 8:28 am
I think it would be great for Al to interview Flores to satisfy the Rooney rule (or a woman).
December 29th, 2008 at 8:29 am
I know i shouldnt get caught in the hype but they say parcells has always held big al in highest regard and who better for al to turn his baby over then to big tuna crazier things have happened.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:31 am
I’m impressed with the Raiders game in Tampa. I truly am. Maybe a new beginning indeed. Hats off to Tom Cable and staff. I didn’t think they could do it. Even JMR looked pretty good. Now let’s see how the offseason will play out. I still believe a competent GM is a must-hire for next year. But this season ending is a promising one.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:32 am
Happy Valentines Day
your gift?
silver & black tuna !!!!
December 29th, 2008 at 8:33 am
OH YEAH…I CONFUSED GILBRIDE WITH JUNE JONES !!!!!
December 29th, 2008 at 8:34 am
MR
Again you show your low IQ and lack of football knowledge.
So you are saying that the Pittsburgh and Miami defenses are not good?
And like the poster #488 said Baltimore runs a 3-4 are you saying that is not proof of a successfully ran 3-4 defense. Hell even Stevie Wonder can see that Baltimore has a good D.
You are a moron go buy football for dummies and read it before coming in here spouting off about how unsuccessful the 3-4 defense is. I think NE (Belichick)runs a 3-4 as well.
You owe BHP an apology now give it up.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:36 am
are you kidding???
MR won’t apologize to his mom for that smell in the basement…
December 29th, 2008 at 8:37 am
Kevin Gilbride? Oh god, I’d rather keep Cable!
Besides, we don’t have enough WRs to play the run-and-shoot, lol.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:38 am
i don’t think Al Davis would break the bank for a guy like Bill Cowher as HC/GM, but I think Davis would pay Parcells a lot because they get along. Mutual respect goes a long way, so does trust. Davis wouldn’t have to pay much to retain Cable, which is why I think he might stay too. He’s got the trust & respect from Davis too and the players want him back, except Curry, Routt & Huff probably. Parcells might not command a huge payday anyways, seeing how much cash he could pocket from the Dolphins in leaving. Like DeAngelo Hall going to the Redskins, they paid next to nothing for him, because he already made 8 million in Oakland.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:39 am
Some of you guys really are clueless. Dakota, are you really suggesting that the Giants play the run and shoot?
I really hope that was a joke.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:41 am
If Parcells had his choice between Fassel, Gilbride or Cable … i wonder who he would pick?
obviously continuity means a lot to him, bringing all those Dallas coaches & players with him over to Miami.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:41 am
Seriously 666, can’t you read? I said “when was the last season WE had a kickass 3-4″. The “we” in that sentence stands for the RAIDERS. Why are you bringing up the Ravens, Dolphins and Patriots? If you don’t believe me just read the post, I put it at the bottom of this post just for you. Now I want an apology, even if you are slow.
MR Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:30 am
Enough of your b.s, BHP. Give me a year. When was the last season we had a kickass 3-4? You know it’s in the ’80s.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:44 am
Rockstar,
Continuity didn’t help the Cam Cameron when Bill took over did it? I doubt Parcells would even consider Tom Cable, he would look to his long list of former assistants and pick from there.
Way to go, now you have me wrapped up in the Parcells fantasy!
December 29th, 2008 at 8:46 am
RR,
I doubt RR takes a LB coaching position over DC of th Raiders. our only hope of getting rid of him was his belief that he would be hired 5 min after he was outta here. lol. now his boy is out in ny. but I just heard the browns are interested in mangenius so we might get lucky yet.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:48 am
Anyone notice Tiger Woods on the Bucs sidelines? This is a guy who told NFL films in 2002 how much he loved the Raiders and how his dad took him to his first Raiders game as a kid. The most popular athlete in the world is a freakin fair weather fan? So what his lives in Florida. I don’t care if I move to Moscow I will always be a Raider fan. I use to think Tiger was a cut above when it came to integrity, but he is just like every other piece of sh*t fair weather fan. Next we’ll see Tiger going fishing with Singletary.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:48 am
edward teach Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 8:39 am
Some of you guys really are clueless. Dakota, are you really suggesting that the Giants play the run and shoot?
I really hope that was a joke.
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Yes it was a joke.
No I do not think the Giants use the run-and-shoot….but Gilbride has run the run-and-shoot in the past, lol.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:48 am
Quit back peddling shut your pie hole and admit you are a feeble minded quivering retard.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:51 am
Dakota
I just woke up from my own Parcells fantasy.
Man it was a nice one!!!
Can a guy dream?
December 29th, 2008 at 8:51 am
The Parcells babble is pointless. The real coaching questions are:
> DC after Ryan is gone…Martindale, Perry, Bresnahan, Willie Brown?
> OC under Cable (sorry Dakota)…Fassel, Lofton, Freddie B?
> GM under Davis (and I do mean UNDER)…Shell, Millen, Flores?
December 29th, 2008 at 8:51 am
666, looks like MR has you on that one, you better close your mouth before you further embarrass yourself.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:52 am
666, I have always wanted Bill Parcells to come to the Raiders…dream away bro.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:54 am
i am a fan of Lofton…
i like the idea of him becoming the new “O” coordinator…
December 29th, 2008 at 8:54 am
Tony Romo FAINTED in the shower after yesterday’s game, lol. I think he saw something he didn’t like and imagined that with Jessica…
December 29th, 2008 at 8:54 am
I think we are going to be surprised by some of the names interested in the Raider GM and coaching positions. Especially with the way Russell, Bush, McFadden, Miller, JLH, and Chaz looked.
don’t forget these guys have egos too and to have the distinction of turning around the Raiders on top of the 1-15 Dolphins, Cowboys, and the Giants? or in Cowhers case, the Raiders on top of the Steelers? these guys’ legend would be incredible. u don’t think they think like that? think again.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:56 am
Mr is a life long SCRUB! Pay him no mind, he think if he acts like an @ss all the time people will like him more. Most of his friends are SCRUBS also!
December 29th, 2008 at 8:56 am
Continuity didn’t help the Cam Cameron when Bill took over did it?
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Dakota, no, but Cameron got to piece together his own staff. Brought in his own assistants, had a full offseason with the team. Got to use the draft and free agency. Cable took over a 1-3 team and had the luxury of none of the above. Plus there was a divided locker room over Kiffin and this is the same team that hasn’t won more than 5 games since 2002. Expecting Cable to make this team a playoff contender was an impossible task. Especially having Cable be the HC, OC, OL coach and play caller for basically a rookie QB and multiple injuries at the RB & FB positions (strength of the team) … Nobody expected the Raiders to beat the Texans or the Bucs. We had nothing to play for, those teams had everything to play for. The Raiders came together as a team and that’s all you can ask for from an interim Head Coach.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:57 am
let’s hope Rex Ryan gets a HC position so he can come get Rob!
December 29th, 2008 at 9:00 am
I hope we dont sign Parcells because;I thikn this team is turning around with who we got.I dont want tuna 2 take the credit when this team is turning ITSELF around
December 29th, 2008 at 9:00 am
Pete, first you admit you like Cable and now Lofton too? Next you are going to admit liking Rob Ryan and the sweet sounds of John Cougar Mellencamp!
December 29th, 2008 at 9:01 am
That’s what I like about him, Dakota, and the nfldraftbible.com article fleshes it out a little bit. The thing that makes him special is his ability to adapt to the personnel he has and make it work. Mark Brunell was no Warren Moon, but he got him to the Pro Bowl. Eli Manning is no Mark Brunell, etc. He also had success with Drew Bledsoe, so you see he has worked well with all different types.
It’s funny, when I watch the Giants play I see so many similarities, personnel-wise, to what we have now. I just think he’d do great here.
Everywhere he’s been his offenses do mad stuff and score many points. Can he be a head coach? I don’t know. San Diego was 11 years ago, though, and a lot of water has gone under the bridge since then.
PS I’m glad you were joking. I respect your views and think you come in here with intelligence. I don’t always agree but I know it’s always well thought-out on your part.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:02 am
I doubt RR takes a LB coaching position over DC of th Raiders. our only hope of getting rid of him was his belief that he would be hired 5 min after he was outta here.
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Rob Ryan doesn’t have a choice. nobody will want him based on what he’s shown as DC of the Raiders. He’s not under contract next season, so don’t expect to see this fat slob on our sidelines next season … Ryan likes a 3-4 defense, so does Mangini. So does Bill Cowher, who the Browns are going after for GM. I can see those 3 guys in Cleveland next year, but I doubt Cowher wants a scrub like Ryan on the staff.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:02 am
somewhere deep inside, I know ur right about 520 Bo
December 29th, 2008 at 9:03 am
I would keep Cable, get rid of RR & Knapp, draft MLB Rey Maualaga & move Morrison outside, keep Super Mario at LT, trade Fargas, hire Tim Brown as GM & never let Tiger come back to the Raider Nation.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:04 am
Hey yall, look for my new book, it is called life behind the windshield of a 1988 Honda Accord.
Featuring Me, the blo hard from Tr@cy.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:07 am
Dakota Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 9:00 am
Pete, first you admit you like Cable and now Lofton too? Next you are going to admit liking Rob Ryan and the sweet sounds of John Cougar Mellencamp!
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i don’t know how i feel about Ryan…
i’ve been unhappy with the D-line and the MLB situation… so i don’t know…
but, yeah, John Cougar Mellencamp is a fresh young voice in the music business and i believe he has the potential of becoming a superstar…
write it down… you heard it here first !!!
December 29th, 2008 at 9:07 am
M
its a blog you dolt
stop acting like your at a bar looking for a fight you big shot internet tough guy
no one here gives a crap I know I don’t
MR is a uninformed opinionated loser like yourself that needs this blog to feel adequate as a human being.
If you insist that I am wrong then go back and read the posts and you will see I am not.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:07 am
Thanks Jhill… I mean bummer.
Although Martindale has shown to be good at his LB job, so who knows?
December 29th, 2008 at 9:09 am
RR … I think we agree on Ryan, but my fear is that whatever has kept him here the last 2 years (photos of Al, a birth certificate, etc) will keep him around even longer. I have a feeling Al will offer him an extention. and to ur point of no one else wanting him, he’ll accept Al offer. ugghhhh!
December 29th, 2008 at 9:09 am
Thanks Edward. Gilbride being that flexible sounds like something the Raiders could use. He might start by playing the best players? That would be a nice change over Cable.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:12 am
Dakota……..back to my Bill Parcells fantasy
December 29th, 2008 at 9:13 am
I would keep Cable, get rid of RR & Knapp, draft MLB Rey Maualaga & move Morrison outside, keep Super Mario at LT, trade Fargas, hire Tim Brown as GM & never let Tiger come back to the Raider Nation.
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I can’t see the Raiders drafting Rey Rey or making Brown the GM/exec type. I can see the rest of those scenarios playing out though. Tim Brown might be able to replace Steve Reaves in the front office, whose primary duty was making copies and brewing the coffee. I think the Raiders will end up with one of the top 3 tackles in the draft and Mario Henderson will start wherever he doesn’t. Kwame & Cornell are gone, even if Cable likes them as people. They aren’t talented enough to be starters in this league.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:13 am
A great end to a disappointing season.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:16 am
Mario Henderson is our starting tackle. Kwame is a joke and we can grab another tackle in the 3rd round this year. If the Raiders can land a big time WR in free agency this year, Bolin, Whos your mamma come to mind, then we can look at getting a DB in the first round because Namdi wont be here next year. I love Namdi and I dont think that he should go but he is tired of the circus. If we get the 2 first rounders as well, we can draft a linebacker, outside or middle doesnt matter to me. Morrison can play both id rather have him outside and have a run stopping middle linebacker.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:17 am
I am reading the Tamp Bay blog to see what they are saying about Gruden…here are some posts.
“Bye Jon…I hear Oakland needs a coach…In this real estate market I bet you can get your old house back. ”
“Thanks for “mailing it in” Monty. Instead of making recruiting calls for TN, maybe you should have watched some more film…since Lane taking the job at TN, our D has gone from 1st against the run to 13th, and 5th overall to 15th. Good luck in TN with “Mail it in Monty”.
“Sorry Bucs fans. I used to be a Gruden fan but after today I remember why I was always so mad at him. He is a boring coach. He won the Super Bowl because he knew our plays. He was pathetic today. Old man Kiffin is past his prime and Jon Boy just isn’t creative. Big Bob Cable outcoached him…that is pathetic for you guys. Gruden is so freakin’ overrated it is pitiful. I like our team with Cable.”
www2.tbo.com/content/2008/dec/28/282034/once-promising-bucs-season-ends-thud/c_4/#comments
December 29th, 2008 at 9:19 am
I saw Gaines Adams had one sack yesterday, but aside from that how was Mario Henderson’s performance? In other words do you think he will get enough confidence from the staff going into ‘09 where they may address another need in the first round other than a left tackle?
December 29th, 2008 at 9:20 am
Remember people, Cable is a very slow learner.
First Henderson came in and played well, Cable, in a moment of clarity said so himself, but then retracted his statements the next day. Then McFadden showed him what plays to run and proved that all he does is make plays, score TDs and make our offense better and everyone in here thought Cable finally saw the light, but then the next week we got a double dose of Justin 1.2 TDs/year Fargas.
So for all of you that believe Cable now understands that Bush is a playmaker….don’t be surprised, if Cable is retained as HC, that we don’t see Bush until week 7 of next season and Fargas is still starting and we are 2-4.
Why don’t we hire a coach that will put the best players on the field and has a sound reputation for developing QBs?
Jim Fassel.
This message is paid for by the Hire Jim Fassel Foundation.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:20 am
well … back to reality. let’s not forget a few things about our beloved owner….
he doesn’t think this team is that far off.
he’s loyal, sometimes to a fault.
he admitted he wants a personell guy. (we all know that means an assistant, not someone to run the show. Cmon)
Cable and Lofton will be back in some capacity.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:20 am
I think we agree on Ryan, but my fear is that whatever has kept him here the last 2 years (photos of Al, a birth certificate, etc) will keep him around even longer.
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Davis is cheap. Otherwise he would’ve paid Gruden instead of trading him away in the last year of his contract. If Al wasn’t cheap, he would have paid Kiffin & Shanahan, despite whatever they did (or didn’t do) wrong. Now that Ryan’s contract is up, Davis isn’t required to pay him. Just like Davis gave Kiffin Russell, DMC, Bush, Walker, Higgins & Miller on offense as “weapons”. Davis also gave Ryan Burgess, Kelly, Warren, Sands, Howard, Morrison, Asomugha, Huff, Wilson, Hall, Johnson & Branch on defense. The defense has sucked all 5 seasons with him as DC and if Davis does in fact offer him an extension, the Raiders losing trend continues. Davis thinks he put together a team of 53 pro bowlers and always blames the coaches for losing, never blaming himself or the players. This is another reason why Ryan goes.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:21 am
Can’t believe in a do-or-die game Tampa was so conservative on there play-calls, and chose to punt on those two 4th and inches scenarios. If I was a Bucs fan I would be pissed! Seriously, how many 4th and inches have we stopped this year?
December 29th, 2008 at 9:23 am
Jim Fassel’s offense was spectacular in Baltimore. I doubted Cable’s abilities for a while, but now that we have some momentum, I feel that change would only undermine it. I say build on it, the young players are starting to get involved and are buying into the Cable guy. I say give him a shot.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:23 am
I saw a mock draft on ESPN last night that had Crabtree falling to us at 7, that would be awsome.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:23 am
Bush and McFadden are going to be a nice thunder and lightning combo, much like Wheatley and Garner were. Still keep Fargas around for the rest of his contract, in a perfect world all three would be healthy, but with some many injuries at the RB position in todays NFL, you keep the three just in case.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:24 am
If we just made ONE move in the offseason I think we all agree that if we only fired Rob Ryan and that was all we did. Lets say hypothetically…..
We would improve from 5-11 to 9-7
Just by making that one move.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:24 am
re: defense.
the last time we (the Raiders) had a sucessful 3-4 defense was when we would flex into it during our superbowl season (02). But it was never a pure 3-4, that happened back in the 90’s or 80’s (can’t remember.)That might be the way to go. It would rest Burgess and make him a situational pass rusher. what i did notice in the last two games was that when the Raiders stopped the run they were in a 7 man front and a 2 deep shell. That is not the way its supposed to work but i guess giving Wilson space to see the field and fill gaps works out pretty good. Anyway i’m just excited about the way we ended a dissapointing season on a high note. plus the Pats didn’t make it to the playoffs and they have an issue with Brady (maybe) missing ‘09 and Cassell a free agent.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:25 am
offseason
Tag and trade Aso to AZ for Boldin
Trade Fargas for 4th to TB, promote Rankin
Walking papers: Harris, Carter, Curry, Green, Wade, Warren, Joseph, Brown, Burgess
Draft priorities, MLB, OT, DE, DT
Not sure what to do about Walker and his salary-love to let him go but who knows
RR-gone
Knapp -gone
Cable-stay get him a real DC and OC, team believes in him and they played inspired and as a team at the end in a meaningless season, he’s got them on board and playing well
Schnieder-lock him up
A man can dream, right?
December 29th, 2008 at 9:25 am
great way to end the season………….on a sack!.see what happens when a team decides to show up.playoffs or bust next season,should b no excuse.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:26 am
SNB #554
Agreed. Rob Ryan makes me miss Chuck Bresnahan.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:27 am
How about Schilens and Higgins? These young guys have really stepped it up and found a groove with Jamarcus. Lends hope for next season that we may have some help at the WR position.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:28 am
Todd McShay has us selecting Crabtree at #7…he is 6′3″…but how fast is he?
December 29th, 2008 at 9:29 am
Cable stays,I hope.RR is gone,I hope.Untill yesterday Bush showed me Nothing,except 90 yards in KC.Man he looked awesome.But as we all know theres 17 weeks in the nfl and I’m glad 4 all 3 backs.MLB then both lines,soooo thats 1MLB,3OL,3DL.Did you guys see how wide open JLH&Chaz were in the red zone???Ooyeah-baby; SPEED KILLS
December 29th, 2008 at 9:31 am
Schillens has great hands, he has made a few impressive catches the last few weeks, and can’t remember one-time when he didn’t catch a catchable pass. What a steal in the 7th round.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:31 am
Yeah I can see Al Davis using our high draft pick on a flashy offensive player (Crabtree) when we need help on the O and D line.
Its not like he didn’t do it last year.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:31 am
Raiderwoj,
I agree with all your “walking papers” except for Burgess. I know he has a propensity for injuries, but when he is out there that is one side of the d-line we know we get production (sacks) from. Getting rid of him just creates another hole that needs filling. I’m hoping Trevor Scott bulks up in the offseason and competes on the other side as he was a pleasant surprise.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:33 am
i would feature Bush as the marquee tailback…
i would have McFadden anywhere he wants to stand, as long as it’s on the field…
have him wide-outing, then h-backing, motioning, lining up at full… doesn’t matter… so long as he is bright enough to understand the rules on “motion”, i would have him all over the place…
now game plan for him…
what i would not do is make him the featured, every-down back… that would be Bush’s job…
Fargas would be my 2nd stringer… and like it !!!
December 29th, 2008 at 9:36 am
Raiderwoj,
I’m with you on most of your calls, except the “walking papers” for Warren and Burgess. Warren is a good pass-rusher for a DT, and could be a good situational pass-rusher from the middle, he often gets a push. Burgess is one of the few players on our team with some trade value (3rd or 4th rounder maybe), I think we should try to trade rather than cut him.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:37 am
Vegas,
If Schilens can add some bulk in the offseason, he could really be a legitimate threat. But, your absolutely right, what a bargain in the 7th round.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:37 am
I still think we should have traded down last year its a luxury to have a player like McFadden when we have so many other needs O line D line WR MLB ect.
This year I expect the same thing
December 29th, 2008 at 9:38 am
666,
If you recall, Jake Long was long gone when we picked at #4 last year, and Dorsey and Ellis turned out to be overmatched midgets, just like we all knew they would, lol. Where was the o-line or d-line help coming from in round one @ #4 last year?
Or did you really think Al was going to trade down?
Al had his chances to add help to the o and d line but he traded away our second round pick for a worthless CB and passed on Red Bryant in the fourth round.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:39 am
you are right Pete Fargas “would” like it
December 29th, 2008 at 9:39 am
you can’t replace all your DT’s at once… Warren needs to stay…
what we need is more rotation on the D-Line…
we need 4 (count’em), four defensive tackles…
there… problem solved…
next problem!!!
December 29th, 2008 at 9:40 am
ENJOY NATION BBL =)
December 29th, 2008 at 9:41 am
rr .. that would be too much like right. gawd I hope ur right, but I just won’t believe it until I see it.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:44 am
Cable said he expects Lechler to be present for today’s year-end team meeting. Asomugha has a previous engagement and isn’t expected to attend, Cable said.
The Raiders also finished the season as the lone NFL team without a 100-yard game by a receiver of any kind.
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on second thought, maybe the Raiders will take Crabtree and scrap guys like Walker, Curry & Lelie?
I hope Shane shows up for the meeting today. To my knowledge, he’s always handled himself with class.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:44 am
Great game, I stated beforehand that I expected JR to have a bad game based on his struggles vs. cover 2 defenses, but if he had a good game, it would show tremendous growth – he delivered, minus the one floater that got picked – Cable called a great game too – he attacked the cover 2 vertically, JR’s strength, and Schillens and Higgins came up huge. Cable also got Bush involved in the passing game, which I have been begging for since the start of the season – he also got DMAC on the field on every third down in the beggining of the game, and got him on the field with Fargas and Bush at the same time – too bad DMAC got injured early, I think we would have seen a very explosive and dynamic game plan – Cable has finally figured out which guys have talent (chaz and jlh), out how to use his personnel appropriatly, and even better, we now know we have thunder to dmac’s lightning with Bush – Fargas will have to take a back seat next year, or continue his first quarter role of being a “crash test dummy” to soften up the D for Bush and DMAC – what a good crew of RB’s we have – I’d like to go after some o and d line help in the draft, and it looks like we can pencil Henderson in as our starter at LT next year – this season, up until three weeks ago, was a complete waste – with Henderson, JR, JLH, and Bush steppping up, I think we learned a lot a can upgrade other positions and build around these guys. I’d like to get a RG (carlisle is a FA and we can still use an upgrade) and a ROT in the draft, trade Nnamdi for two firsts, get a SLB or MLB (if we move morrison) and a NT. Then we bring in a 3-4 zone blitz DC and we’re good to go – these parcells rumors are killing me…that would be the greatest day in Raider history since we made the super bowl.
Anyway, Cable has proved he deserves a shot unless we can find a better coach (or we get a gm with his own people) – no reason to take a flyer on anybody that is not proven. Rob has to go, although I’ll admit his defense played well enough to win yesterday overall, we still saw the typical lack of QB pressure, 3rd and long conversion, busted coverages for big plays, and big plays in the run game (i feel bad for Cadiliac though – did you guys hear him yelling on the sideline???!!!! He was screaming “Are you f**king kidding me!” – sad for him).
Anyway, Cable has shown that he can adapt Kiffin’s scheme to fit our player’s strengths and certainly kept the team playing strong after the season was lost – he was also dead on correct about JR’s growth – last week was a major turning point for JR that continued vs. the bucs and that tells me he can evaluate talent and isn’t stupid when it comes to play design and play calling. He is also a Raider fan, big on the tradition (which Kiffin tossed aside) and the rivalries which is important not only to raider fans, but the other 31 teams that take pride in beating the Raiders – we need that dynamic of hate and anger to counter our opposition’s level of emotion and it helps build chemistry too.
So offensively, if we stick with this scheme, we need a ROT and RG so we can protect JR better and get Miller, Bush, and DMAC out into more pass patterns and run deeper vertical routes as well as give us a bread and butter side to run to in the short yardage run game, and perhaps a probowl caliber WR, although a lot of teams win without one – I think we’ll be fine with JLH and Schillens going into next year with a year under their belts, and we can wait a year to use a #1 pick on a WR – our only glaring holes with the improvement/system fit of henderson, gallery, and grove are RG, ROT, NT, 2 DE’s, SLB. If we stay in a 4-3 and we’re smart we will move Kelly back to strong side DE, trade burgess for a third or a fourth round pick, move warren to three technique DT where he belongs, draft a NT, and get another rush/speed DE that can actually play the run (not burgess) to compete with Richardson.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:45 am
Lock up Nandi long term or trade him.
No franchise tag for him this year.
Franchise Lechler!
December 29th, 2008 at 9:46 am
Good read…
www2.tbo.com/content/2008/dec/28/jon-be-gone-glazers-must-make-call/sports-bucs/
December 29th, 2008 at 9:48 am
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December 29th, 2008 at 9:49 am
That’s exactly my point Dakota (Post #569)
Al wont trade down
December 29th, 2008 at 9:51 am
666,
Al will trade up though, lol.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:51 am
the reason i would get rid of burgess is injuries, looming contract, and he’s not a run stuffer. I like the guy when he’s healthy he can do some damage, but he’s going into 9th season with alot of injuries in the past.
Warren, can we get him fired up for ALL the games, get him to train and be in better shape. If yes keep him, if not replace him
December 29th, 2008 at 9:51 am
I hope the Bucs don’t can Gruden.
Somebody tell the owner: we’ll trade you Tui, Fargas, Walker, Curry, Harris, Green, Greg Knapp & Rob Ryan for Jon Gruden & Bruce Allen.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Dakota LMAO
That’s so funny
Sad but true
December 29th, 2008 at 9:55 am
We’ll be looking for O line, MLB, FB and WR in the draft. If Aso goes, DB high first day…
December 29th, 2008 at 9:56 am
They are calling for Grudens head in Tampa….The Bucs are 45-51 in the regular season since hoisting the Lombardi Trophy. one paper writes…..Makes you think Al Davis might have got the better of the deal when he traded Gruden to the Bucs.
Its so funny because they still say that Gruden won with Dungy’s team.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:00 am
And btw I left Lelie of the list of walking papers because I forgot about him, not cause I want to keep him. Easy to forget about a guy who never showed up.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:00 am
I don’t care how it’s addressed, whether it be:
1. sliding Morrison to OLB and getting a MLB.
2. adding a solid OLB and leaving Morrison alone
3. adding 2 new DT’s and removing 2 from the current group
4. replacing situational pass rushers like Burgess & Edwards with good all around players at DE
the run defense needs to be addressed and hiring a new Defensive Coordinator is the first step in fixing the issue.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Dakota Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 9:28 am
Todd McShay has us selecting Crabtree at #7…he is 6′3″…but how fast is he?
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Wow! I have a hard time believing Crabtree would fall to us at #7, but it is possible if Seattle doesn’t take him. Lets take a look….
1. Detroit (0-16) – QB or OT
2. St. Louis (2-14) – OT
3. Kansas City (2-14)- DE
4. Seattle (4-12) – WR or RB
5. Cleveland (4-12) – RB (Beanie Wells)_
6. Cincinnati (4-11-1) – WR or OT
7. Oakland (5-11) -OT,WR, or LB
Cinncy may take a WR if but only if they are dumb they need O Line help D Line help. They may stick with Benson at RB.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:02 am
I wish we had gone 45-51 since the SB loss…don’t you? He also won them two division titles since the SB.
The Bucs fans might regret getting what they want if Gruden is fired.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:02 am
I just can’t see us taking a WR at #7. especially with as much run as McFadden already gets there.
anything other than DE or RT just wouldn’t be smart. Russell has enough weapons to justify passing on crabtree.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Watch out for Tampa making a play for Ryan!
December 29th, 2008 at 10:03 am
TB already has their new DC. So Ryan would end up position coach there if anything.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:05 am
We need to draft D-Lineman who are strong and stout and who are good athletes and blue collar style football players who work hard.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:06 am
walterfootball.com
round 1
Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
round 2
Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
round 3
Domonique Johnson, CB, Jackson State
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draftcountdown.com – monroe
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nfldraftdog.com
round 1
crabtree
round 2
G, Herman Johnson, LSU
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newnfldraft.com
crabtree
round 2
Brandon Graham, DE, MI
round 3
DeAngelo Smith, CB, Cincy
round 4
Xavier Fulton, OT, ILL
round 5
Josh McNeil, C, Tenn
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draftking.com
round 1
Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
December 29th, 2008 at 10:07 am
I can’t see Aso going anywhere. Al will lock him up today if he is smart. I think hee would have locked him up last year, but he wanted to try out his little plan with Hall and aso n the field together, obviously, that didn’t work. Now I think he will stop fooling around and lock him up. Aso basically said that he didn’t want to comback unless he saw some things start to change around here, I wander if he saw any of those things in the last 2 games…I think with Aso and CJ we have the best CB tandem in the league, like we were supposed to have with Hall. Teams don’t lose players that they want to keep, so I think we will lock him up.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:07 am
I agree about passing on Crabtree if there is a better RT/LT or LB available.
One thing is almost certain IMO.
If Rey is there at #7 and we pass on him. Del Rio and Jacksonville will snatch him up right after us! LOL
December 29th, 2008 at 10:09 am
If this team drafts a freakin CB within the first 3 rounds of the draft….I WILL PUKE!!
December 29th, 2008 at 10:10 am
this is only December, so obviously a lot will change between now & April, but in these 5 mock drafts:
2 have us taking an OT and 2 have us taking a WR. 1 has us even going DE. I’d like to see us go o-line with the first 3 picks and trade Nnamdi for a receiver and maybe an extra pick or two.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Going seventh is a good spot. Plenty of talent, not too expensive and, traditionally, a spot that other teams look to trade into…so we might do some deals.
If we pick at 7, I think we will have a shot at:
Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
Eben Britton, OT, Arizona
Aaron Curry, OLB/ILB, Wake Forest
Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State
Taylor Mays, S, USC
Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC
James Laurinaitis, ILB, Ohio State
We definitely need a RT, even if Henderson looks like a solution at LT. We could take Britton but, he looks a reach at 7. Best to take someone like Loadholt in the 2nd Round. Jenkins would be attractive if Nnamdi left however, the best fit and the biggest contributor would be Laurinaitis. Maualuga suits 3:4 not 4:3.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:11 am
then again, if we end up with an additional #1 by trading Nmandi, I can see it then. crabtree at 7 and a DE or RT with the other #1.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Forget Crabtree in the first, he is waaaay over-rated. We could get just as much from Hakeem Nicks in the second-round if he goes into the draft. Anybody watch him completely dominate West Virgina all by himself in the Meineke bowl?
Speaking of West Virgina, I would love to see the Raiders draft Pat White in a late-round as a project player; that kid is a winner.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:13 am
If this team drafts a freakin CB within the first 3 rounds of the draft….I WILL PUKE!!
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me too. Jax may not go MLB though. Darryl Smith is a good player. They might take Wells or Crabtree for a boost to the offense since Fred Taylor is like 38 years old and fragile again and Jerry Porter & Troy Williamson are likely done after just 1 season.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:15 am
what’s up BBB. long time no see!
December 29th, 2008 at 10:15 am
Either lock up Aso for life or tag and trade him for Boldin. Give Lechler what he deserves. Bush starter, McFadden on the field anywhere you can get him, Rankin in the hole. Just think what our running game would be like if we get an RT, and OO(maybe even Griff) comes back from injury.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:17 am
anybody, and i mean anybody, who would want Gruden and Allen back here after their track record in Tampa…
are out of their fcuking minds…
if Chuckie gets fired (and chuckie is probably hoping he does) Tampa will be left in the same shape we were when Gruden got traded…
with an over the hill team that needs to be rebuilt from the ground up…
December 29th, 2008 at 10:17 am
BHP predicted a “huge” announcement today, the 29th. We will see
December 29th, 2008 at 10:17 am
the whole Nmandi thing is going to be interesting. starting with which teams he’ll want to go to and what those teams are willing to pay. I can’t see him leaving to go to another losing team just for the $. Al will offer him something so I would think he’d stay here in that scenario.
the key is going to be if some team like the patriots or saints come in with some ridiculous offer and he forces a trade.
we certainly can’t let him walk for nothing next offseason which is what will happen if we franchise and don’t trade.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:17 am
then again, if we end up with an additional #1 by trading Nmandi, I can see it then. crabtree at 7 and a DE or RT with the other #1.
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true enough Jhill. With 2 first rounds picks we could get a WR and OT, not sure who (depends on who is available when we pick) but those are our two biggest needs for sure. Then DL and/or LB in round 2.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:18 am
Lineman is the key for this draft.
Offensive Tackles, Centers, Nose Tackles and Defensive Ends, everything else is icing on the cake.
We have skill position players that would match up with most teams, and we have plenty of young WR’s. I don’t know that another kid fighting for playing time is going to solve our recieving woes. If we get a WR in the off-season it would have to be a free-agent.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:18 am
Question, if we tag Aso and trade him, can we then tag Lechler?
December 29th, 2008 at 10:19 am
BBB,
I agree, that NC WR, Nicks, might be the steal of the draft. Although I think he will be out of reach when we draft in the second round once people get a good look at him at the combine.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:20 am
What’s up Rockstar? I have been reading but not contributing for the last few weeks, too busy with work.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:21 am
I think we will get Crabtree. You all know Al as well as I do, he will pick the best skill position player on the board weather we need him or not. In this case we do need him, so I would be fine with Crabtree, thrilled to have him in fact, but I would love to see Laurinaitis in Silver and Black with Morrison moving to SLB, but I don’t even know if Al has recognized Morrison in the middle as a problem. With Laurinitis Howard and Morrison we would ve hands down the best LB corps in the league, and if we give Nnamdi a big deal and CJ keeps up the good work, we will have the best CBs in the game, now if you take Rob Ryan out of the equasion, we will really be in business.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:23 am
the key is going to be if some team like the patriots or saints come in with some ridiculous offer and he forces a trade.
we certainly can’t let him walk for nothing next offseason which is what will happen if we franchise and don’t trade.
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Even though I’m sure Bill Belicheck would love to have Nnamdi, he won’t foot the bill. He wouldn’t pay Asante Samuel or Deion Branch, why Nnamdi? plus they don’t run man-man defense. They play mainly zone. I can see the the Saints going after him since Mike McKenzie, Jason David & Randall Gay haven’t panned out like they would have hoped. Same with Nick Harper in TN.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:23 am
Dakota,
I hope not. I dont know what kind of a physical specimen he is; but that guy can catch a freakin football like nobody’s business. The crazy thing was that West Virgina knew every pass was going to him and they still couldn’t stop him with double teams. I predict he is going to be a very productive pro.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:24 am
Who replaces Rob Ryan?
http://www.sportsfanlive.com/
December 29th, 2008 at 10:27 am
Scottish Raider Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Going seventh is a good spot. Plenty of talent, not too expensive and, traditionally, a spot that other teams look to trade into…so we might do some deals.
If we pick at 7, I think we will have a shot at:
Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
Eben Britton, OT, Arizona
Aaron Curry, OLB/ILB, Wake Forest
Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State
Taylor Mays, S, USC
Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC
James Laurinaitis, ILB, Ohio State
We definitely need a RT, even if Henderson looks like a solution at LT. We could take Britton but, he looks a reach at 7. Best to take someone like Loadholt in the 2nd Round. Jenkins would be attractive if Nnamdi left however, the best fit and the biggest contributor would be Laurinaitis. Maualuga suits 3:4 not 4:3.
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The comment had Dakota roll over and puke-)HEARD AT DAKOTA’S DESK
NOT ANOTHER FUKING DB-AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My reference to Scottish last two sentences.
Thanks for the good laugh. I bet it comes true.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:27 am
what about James Laurinaitis at MLB?? Maualua sucks against the pass…
December 29th, 2008 at 10:27 am
BBB: well it’s good to have you back. you’re one of the better posters on this site
Voldemort: you think Laurinaitis will be around when we pick in round 2? because if we resign Nnamdi and select Crabtree, that’s the only place we could get him. I don’t see Al Davis trading up for a linebacker. Maybe a WR or DB, but not a LB.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:29 am
Nicks would be a good pick in round 2 or 3.
I think he will fall a bit because teams may not think he has elite separation speed.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Dakota I agree with you I wish we had the 45-51 record the Buc’s fans are complaining about….
But like Florida Pete said…”if Chuckie gets fired (and chuckie is probably hoping he does) Tampa will be left in the same shape we were when Gruden got traded…
with an over the hill team that needs to be rebuilt from the ground up…”
I have to agree with that.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:32 am
Hire Mangini as defensive coordinator! haha
December 29th, 2008 at 10:32 am
Latest Mock:
1) James Laurnaitis MLB Ohio State
2) Phil Loadholt RT Oklahoma
3) Brian Robiskie WR Ohio State
4) Troy Kropog OT Tulane
5) -
6) Nader Abdallah DT Ohio State
7) Brett Helms C/OG LSU
December 29th, 2008 at 10:33 am
Crabtree will be long gone when we draft.. forget him..
December 29th, 2008 at 10:33 am
I would much rather have Rey Maeuluga ahead of Laurenitis
December 29th, 2008 at 10:33 am
he wouldn’t pay those guys coming off of superbowl wins but he just might pay Nmandi after missing the playoffs. I think if there is one area that NE could use a shot of youth and possibly the best player at his position would be in there secondary.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:33 am
Nicks will be around in the second-round maybe the early third, depending on how he does at the combine. During the game, they brought in McKay to talk about him, and there is off-the-field potential issues with him, so it will effect his draft position. No way is he staying, but his 4.65 forty won’t appease him to
AL too much. Like Darruis Heyward-Bey more, myself.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:34 am
Rockstar, its like I said, AL will take Crabtree, you can pretty much take that to the bank, but I would rather have Lauranitis in the middle and move Morrison to SLB. To answer you question, no I don’t think he will be there in round 2, besides, in round 2 we have to get a RT.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:35 am
How we should draft…..
OT
DT
MLB
WR
DE
How Al Davis will draft
Crabtree even if he has to trade up to get him
DB
DB
WR
S
DE
December 29th, 2008 at 10:36 am
Heyward-Bey would be a nice choice in round 2.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:37 am
Cable did a good job solidifying the team over the last two weeks of the season and I tip my hat to him, but I still don’t think he’s NFL head coach calibre.
If Al Davis is serious about handing things over to a GM and is committed to keeping a coach for more than a year or two, then I say move Cable back to offensive line coach and go after a quality head coach like Cowher. Sure it’d mean the team would have to relearning a new scheme (again) but sometimes you have to take a step back to take three steps forward. At least this time it would be with a coach who knows how to build a solid foundation, unlike in the past.
If Al Davis ISN’T serious about hiring a GM, then I say let Cable stay on as head coach and give the team some continuity going into next season. Maybe Cable will grow into a worthy NFL head coach.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:37 am
I would rather we traded out of 7 for multiples as the 2nd and 3rd rounds are looking strong. However, and I am assuming the best LTs (Monroe, Smith and Oher) have all gone, the safe option is:
1) James Laurnaitis MLB Ohio State
2) Phil Loadholt RT Oklahoma
3) Brian Robiskie WR Ohio State
4) Troy Kropog OT Tulane
5) -
6) Nader Abdallah DT Ohio State
7) Brett Helms C/OG LSU
December 29th, 2008 at 10:37 am
please no OSU players!
December 29th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Maualua sucks against the pass.
Against Gates, Schefler and Gonzales he’d get killed. Oaklands looking at an every down MLB like Laurenitis
December 29th, 2008 at 10:38 am
The thing is about drafting a WR early, is that he will have to compete against guys that already young and hungry as well. How much will a high pick WR contribute in the beginning? At least an OT, DE, or LB have a chance to contribute right away. There will be other WR’s there in rounds 2-4.
They need to sign a legit vet WR to add depth IMO.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:39 am
The Chiefs got a first and two thirds for J. Allen. What would we get for Nnamdi? A first and a second?
Really, trading Nnamdi wouldn’t help us very much at all because we would be forced to use one of the first round picks on a CB…you may not think so, but I bet Al would think so!
So you lose a pro bowl CB, replace him with a rookie and end up with what? An extra second round pick? That would help a little, maybe get one of the decent centers coming out?
Maybe Al would get
Round 1
Crabtree, WR
and
one of: Montae Davis/DJ Moore/Victor Harris, CBs
Round 2
one of Alex Mack/Max Unger, Cs
and
Sam Young, RT
or
Round 1
Eugene monroe, LT
and
Montae Davis/DJ Moore/Victor Harris, CBs
Round 2:
one of Alex Mack/Max Unger, Cs
and
Bey or Nicks or Maclin (if we are very lucky), WRs
Obviously if Nnamdi refuses to sign with us, then we should trade him. Worst thing we could do is franchise him and let him walk after next season, but
I would rather see us:
Keep Nnamdi,
Draft Monroe, LT in Round 1 and either C Unger or Mack in Round 2, a WR or DT in Round 3.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:39 am
is chad johnson an UFA?
December 29th, 2008 at 10:40 am
The Raiders’s reject quitting as an option. Come on Bush, get back in there.Show us what your all about. weren’t you yelling that out at the top of your lungs as well?The Raiders coming from behind to beat a playoff bound team,what resiliency.respect from commentators,Raiders you earned it!!!!!!!!
I chuckle everytime I see a post to move morrison to outside linebacker.Did you see the game yesterday and the games that preceded? If you want to see morrison go one on one with a runningback outside the tackle lines,lube the runing backs, morrison,the field and don’t forget the banana peels.
H. Eugene Is becoming a known hitter, disrupter type of safety.The Raiders lacked this type of safety play for some time now,but I think the sheriff is back in town.
The Raiders are still discombobulated on defense.Defense should be a strong suit as long as R.Ryan has been at the helm. I am talking about the defense really understanding the scheme and playing like they understand it.There were far to many blown coverages late in the season and there should be no more excuses for it.
Raiders, thanks so much for the impressive win. You made the Raider Nation Proud again.
Raiders Be With You.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:41 am
Rey doesn’t need to cover….he needs to play sideline to sideline and help against the run and hit.
Laurenitis will get washed out in the NFL IMO.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:43 am
I hate to say it, ’cause Lord knows I’m not a Gallery fan (for the price we paid), but we need to draft an OT. As much as we need more playmakers on the outside at WR, and D-line help, a first round quality tackle would be huge. We as a nation have to get over selecting Gallery instead of Sean Taylor that year. The future was supposed to be bright for Gallery, and it still might be (just as an overvalued guard instead of tackle). Jamarcus is looking like he wants to take that next step, and we have to ensure we’re protecting him. But if we can play like the last two games, we just might take a shot at Taylor Mays. I want Mauluaga if we don’t get an OT, but like someone posted earlier; Al would never draft a LB that high. And if we do pick up a safety, we need to package Huff and Fargas and see if we can get our 2nd round pick back.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:44 am
is chad johnson an UFA?
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nope. neither is Boldin, but TJ Housh is
December 29th, 2008 at 10:44 am
It was great to see Cable and Fargas and DMC, basically force Bush hand and to get him back in there.
He got hit hard one play…needed to take a break and they didn’t know if could handle getting back in.
A timeout gave him th rest he needed and he came back strong.
Loved seeing it from the big boy!
Nice way to finish the season for these guys.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:45 am
No pre madonnas like CJ are needed on this team.
Housh yes….Chad no…
December 29th, 2008 at 10:45 am
bellichik is done with riding herd on the AFC…
he got away from the plan which gave him so much success for so long…
he started signing older free agents… instead of utilizing that in-house farm system he created…
he also got away from the budgetary management system that worked so well…
of course it did yield an extra Lombardi… but it cost him the year in-year out consistency he had created in New England…
the years where he could allow top flight players to go… and replace them with good players from the bench… and also replace them with some extra high-round draft choices are gone…
personally… i hate bellickik (who gives a schit how it’s spelled)… but i did admire the system he put into place…
what does this mean to us???
it means if Nambdi doesn’t want to stay… we trade him… stock up on the draft picks and continue to develope ongoing talent…
the old-fashioned way…
December 29th, 2008 at 10:46 am
Luv how the both the Patsies and Cowgirls are not in the playoffs!
Luv it! LOL
December 29th, 2008 at 10:46 am
Dakota #636 was impressive
nicely done…
December 29th, 2008 at 10:49 am
We should look to trade down and stock up on picks.
No more reach picks and worrying about 40 times.
Just pick solid blue collar football players who are athletic, strong and work hard.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:49 am
if we waste a 1st and 2nd on LT and C with the issues we have at RT, DE, and LB then I will ….
probably not be surprised
December 29th, 2008 at 10:50 am
Any thought to AL maybe trading down in this draft for high-round picks in 2011 and beyond? Al likes to save money, and there will be a rookie-salary limit starting that year that will lower the salaries of high draft picks. Every eligible player that might get drafted early in 2010 will declare. Food for thought
December 29th, 2008 at 10:50 am
Luv how the both the Patsies and Cowgirls are not in the playoffs!
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i loved how the donks got dumped on after being 1st place in the division the entire year. Raiders knocking the Bucs out of the playoffs was priceless. Pennington coming back to beat the Jets with the 1-15 dolphins to win the division was pretty cool too, especially since it sparked the whole Brett Favre retirement talk up again. he’s such a media wh0re
December 29th, 2008 at 10:52 am
Rockstar… re your mock draft post. I would laugh my ass off if Al took any player from Tennessee in this draft.
In my opinion we won’t see a Vol drafted by Oakland again as long as Al is alive.
Has anyone else read anything about concerns with Laurinitis NOT being tough against the run? One report I read (don’t remember where, sorry) said that teams in the Big Ten were running right at him because he could consistently be blown out of the play. He’s only around 245 pounds or so…
December 29th, 2008 at 10:52 am
Whats up freaks?
December 29th, 2008 at 10:53 am
Florida Pete……Is that really you?
December 29th, 2008 at 10:54 am
All you guys getting on Cable for wanting to use Bush as a FB need to take a step back and look at the situation. THe Raiders lost two starting quality FB’s and were using a waiver wire FB as starter. What would you have done? I’d have asked the 245lb kid if he wanted some playing time. You know, blocking and catching passes out of the backfield. Cable never said it was permanent. He was just looking to use his roster to it’s best potential. Something he got better at as time went on I’d say.
Oh yaa. That tackle Jamarcus made on the interception showed me more than anything I had seen from him till then. He was irritated and it showed! He took em down the field on the next series. NICE!!
December 29th, 2008 at 10:54 am
we waste a 1st and 2nd on LT and C with the issues we have at RT, DE, and LB
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waste? taking a tackle & center would be the best draft we’ve have in a while, because we’d be trying to fix NEEDS. Grove will likely opt out of the final year of his contract. John Wade only signed a 1 year deal and will be an UFA this offseason. Mario Henderson is one tackle, be it right or left. We still need another, because Harris & Green are garbage.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:54 am
Dakota….ok so you are back too. Man I have been a way for a while and people come back out of the wood work.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:54 am
All I know is that crazy old Al better not retain Rob the Blob.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:54 am
it is i !!!
and i am legend !!!
(ok… that might be a little over the top)
but it is me !!!
December 29th, 2008 at 10:55 am
Big game yesterday. Nice to see the boys stay strong throughout the game.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:55 am
Jhill,
If we draft a LT in round one, we just let the rookie and Henderson battle it out with the loser tacking the RT spot.
C is crucial, Grove is done, so is Wade. Having great C and two good tackles would catapualt this offense to new heights!
I agree we need help at LB and DE too, but we can’t fix it all, and I think helping Russell, McFadden and Bush with a great o-line should be priority #1.
It obviously all depends on what we do in free agency.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:55 am
Are you done with your Kiffin rant pete?
December 29th, 2008 at 10:56 am
Dakota Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 10:55 am
Jhill,
If we draft a LT in round one, we just let the rookie and Henderson battle it out with the loser tacking the RT spot.
C is crucial, Grove is done, so is Wade. Having great C and two good tackles would catapualt this offense to new heights!
I agree we need help at LB and DE too, but we can’t fix it all, and I think helping Russell, McFadden and Bush with a great o-line should be priority #1.
It obviously all depends on what we do in free agency.
___________________________________________________
Jeff Saturday is available on the free agent wires
December 29th, 2008 at 10:56 am
All of you have identified the problem with the Raiders, so why do you make a move to add to the problem, I’m referring to the trade of Nnamdi for draft picks or player.
Our OL needs two bodies, a center, LT and RT, that should be where we look to improve the team.
Do you want to protect Jamarcus and have a run game to create even more of a passing game, or do you want to focus on complaining about our pass defense when teams can and will pass happpy on us all game, you’ll switch from our porous run defense to our hapless pass defense with Nnamdi gone.
Do your eyes deceive you, did you see what happened yesterday with Chris Johnson did to Antonio Bryant and last week to Andre Johnson from the Texans.
The best situation to occur during this football season is Chris Johnson, he has the play making ability to play cover “o” and zone and the instincts to be a ball hawk.
Why then when Davis has been looking for the elite tandem to play his style of defense would you trade your best defensive player, Nnamdi.
History lesson here to the young guys, that 1983 Superbowl was made when we traded for Mike Haynes, our defense was good but become great when Davis acquired him.
Mike Haynes complimented Lester Hayes and was a shut down corner, the Superbowl win in 83 was in large part due to him.
You finally have with Nnamdi, a corner who can cover the field and be left to take on the other teams best receiver.
Let’s work the linebackler angle, We need a mike and the team will be better in the middle and then we need a DE who can rush the passer and be a stalwart against the run.
By all means keep Nnamdi, sign him for whatever he wants, pleassse.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:57 am
Not to mention that we still need a WR. They are projecting crabtree in round 1
December 29th, 2008 at 10:58 am
I would laugh my butt off if Al took any player from Tennessee in this draft.
In my opinion we won’t see a Vol drafted by Oakland again as long as Al is alive.
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newnfldraft.com probably didn’t think about the Kiffin connection, but you’re right. I don’t know anything about Josh McNeil, but if he came to us this year, he would have never been coached by Lane Kiffin. Also, I’d hate for us to wait until the 5th round to get a Center unless Chris Morris is starter material.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:58 am
Man, I can’t spell today!
December 29th, 2008 at 11:00 am
i’m done with kiffie…
(well, done except for the part where i laugh my ass off at the failure he becomes…)
so yeah… i’m done…
(well, except for the part where i say i told you so…)
so, you know, other than that… color me done…
oh… and… ah … never mind…
December 29th, 2008 at 11:01 am
yup, waste …. henderson in my LT and Grove hasn’t opted out yet. and if he does, I can get a center in round 3 or 4.
DE and RT are screaming for a blue chip prospect. or simply put, we NEED talent at those spots moreso than LT or C.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:01 am
Jeff Saturday is available on the free agent wires
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The Colts will resign him. That would be like the Titans letting Kevin Mawae walk – not going to happen.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:04 am
I love Fargas’ attitude, I wish all our players had his die-hard mentality. that being said I hope he’s not our starter next year. Play Bush & DMC. I kinda like our recivers, played real good against a good TB secondary. Please cut Javon, k.harris, huff & sands. Paycut to Gallery & Kelly. Draft some depth on both lines and sign veteran leadership and attitude (enough with the super talented underachievers).
December 29th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Rockstar, we pick high enough in the 2nd to get one of the three centers that are being projected as good pros. My personal preference is to trade down to later in the 1st and ensure that we get Alex Mack, who is projected to be the next REALLY good one.
There are about a zillion scenarios for that, so I won’t speculate too much other than to say again that I think Philly’s two #1s for our #7 overall would be the ideal. They pick late teens and again late 20s.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:05 am
the very biggest problem we have going into next year is center…
as much as i would like to see us focus on the defense… the position of center is going to be our biggest weakness…
that’s the one position where we probably do need to find a free agent replacement AND a serious draft choice…
December 29th, 2008 at 11:06 am
Chaos,
I think Paytom Manning would take a pay cut to keep Saturday in Indy. Peyton would cry if they let him leave…
To Peyton Manning the only thing that could be worse than losing Saturday, is if Peyton’s gay lover, Kenny Chesney left him!
December 29th, 2008 at 11:10 am
There are so many good OT’s and Centers in this draft, we have to start with that.
With the seventh pick, we will absolutely be able to land one of: Andre Smith, Jason Smith, Michael Oher or Eugene Monroe, and with the 39th pick we can get Alex Mack, Unger or Jon Luigs to play center.
I know that it isn’t exciting, but these are the kind of players we need to get the most out of Russell, McFadden, Higgins, Schilens, Shields, Miller and Bush.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:10 am
please tell me why we are talking about LT at all? what else do u need henderson to do?
I like the idea of a veteran C coming in, or maybe drafting a guy in the 3rd or 4th rd.
is cornell green obviously the weak link?
r u happy with Kalimba Edwards and Burgess as everydown DEs?
some of u must’ve stopped watching 6 weeks ago.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:11 am
I hope Nnamdi stays. I just don’t know if we can afford him. We have a lot of money invested in players under development or under-achieving.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:12 am
Great win! Go Raiders!
December 29th, 2008 at 11:13 am
I like Fargas too… as a person. But, I think of him as a boat anchor… we ain’t goin nowhere with him out there, and I don’t really see anyone trading us anything for him. It’s kind of a rock and a hard spot because I hate to see him go but I don’t really want him to stay.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:15 am
We can not draft a lineman if we expect to win and win now. This team is too young and to get younger with the o line at this point would be a disaster. We need to resign coop, find a RT in free agency and have some other options at LT. Mario held his won and needed some time to mature. With this year under his belt and the confidence of his good play for the last 3 weeks, we may have the bookend we needed.
Get a center, draft a wr and a mike and lets shore up the defenseive line with quality out of the free agent market.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:16 am
You guys are making to much since in here, you all need to start thinking like the raiders execs! Who is the fastest? Who is the Dumbest? and Who will only show up to collect a paycheck?….. Sign them all!
December 29th, 2008 at 11:17 am
Gilbride would be a terrible hire as HC.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:17 am
In today’s NFL, for a player to have trade value, he has to be desired with multiple teams looking to acquire him (Roy Williams this year) to get anything in return. If you are looking to unload some guy, you won’t get much more than a 5th round pick for him. Therefore, Fargas has zero trade value.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:17 am
BART
Totally agree.
With a solid OT added to our Oline mix we enhance the value of every one on offense. An improved Oline is essential to compete with physical teams like the Ravens and Chargers.Based upon what I have seen we then go DT and DE. I like the idea of a center but I think we win more games if we draft well with OT,DT,DE in the first three rounds.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:17 am
since=sense
December 29th, 2008 at 11:18 am
Oher and Monroe would be great RT’s
December 29th, 2008 at 11:19 am
The draft is no gimme. We have drafted a lot of blue chip players. They don’t always turn out to be blue chip. But we have drafted them. It’s easy to say we can draft this and draft that. But, really a good solid free agent signing at the OL or DL is better than the (Blind) draft. I would prefer to shore up our O line with Free Agents and draft for skill positions and defense. Youth is not wasted on Defense ever.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:19 am
I believe that DT is our biggest area of need on defense, followed closely by DE; however I don’t think Al will use high-round picks on defensive players in this draft. If he gets a new DC like we all hope that he does, Al will probably force the guy to evaluate the 5-star defensive roster, he thinks we have, before giving him new players to work with.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:20 am
By the way Dakota, 408, Dirty and 4eva…..I told you a while ago I would find a good one to post. Finally got the one of Rilla and myself on a public site. Get some! By the way Dakota, your cubbies still suck.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1298495&l=af7af&id=714242098
December 29th, 2008 at 11:20 am
Just, why couldn’t they mix in Bush before? All three of those backs have something to offer.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:21 am
is cornell green obviously the weak link?
r u happy with Kalimba Edwards and Burgess as everydown DEs?
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DE & RT are needs, yes. so are WR, MLB & WR … you’re not going to fill every need in the draft, but maybe you can fill the most important needs in the draft. Under Norv Turner we swung & missed with Gallery & Grove in 2004, but that doesn’t change the fact that we need a tackle and center for 2009. Scott, Richardson & Gunheim are young players who could develop into something special. This is a contract year for Burgess. He’ll be gone next offseason, not this one. (unless we can trade him) He’s oft injured and one dimensional, but he’s cheap for a starting DE and he does get a push in the pocket, even if he doesn’t have as many sacks this year.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:21 am
Dakota Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 10:55 am
Jhill,
If we draft a LT in round one, we just let the rookie and Henderson battle it out with the loser tacking the RT spot.
^Exactly! Either way it makes the O-Line stronger..
December 29th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Chaos #679
That was one of your best comments ever, right on,
you’re thinking is correct.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Please no more talk about WR draft picks.
We do not need one.
We have too much money tied up with Walker to afford one.
WR’s are irrelavent with out a solid Oline and capable quarterback (see Detroit-C. Johnson)
Line play improvement would translate instantly to wins.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:24 am
No DT’s this year warrant a top 7 pick and it’s very rare when they do.
Arron Curry is an OLB who is going to be a beast in the NFL…
Watch out!
December 29th, 2008 at 11:24 am
I can not believe that some of u can’t see our run defense being the #1a and 1b problems that need fixing.
pass protection from RT is the #3 issue but u are completely discounting McQuistan. u may not like McQuistan and Grove, but the REALITY is they are on the team.
who says grove is opting out?
December 29th, 2008 at 11:24 am
“so are WR, MLB & WR” post #690
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i meant DT, MLB & WR … sorry
December 29th, 2008 at 11:25 am
JMac’s Jersey was clean in Oakland last Sunday against Houston and it was also clean this weekend in Tampa Bay. I don’t think our O line is in as bad as shape as you all are saying. It takes time for a unit to jell and they are doing it.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:26 am
WR’s are irrelavent with out a solid Oline and capable quarterback (see Detroit-C. Johnson)
Line play improvement would translate instantly to wins.
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well said Charlie
December 29th, 2008 at 11:28 am
O-line and D-line need help we cannot let another draft class go by without addressing those issues.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Free agents with a few exceptions are generally poor values. Their production simply does not measure up to the large contract they get. We learned that this year(though we should have seen it with Larry Brown).
I would agree that a fourth round pick on the oline might take a while to develop but a first round pick should not.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:29 am
linemen, linemen, linemen…
and cowbell…
gotta have cowbell…
December 29th, 2008 at 11:30 am
How we should draft…..
OT
DT
MLB
WR
DE
How Al Davis will draft
Crabtree even if he has to trade up to get him
DB
DB
WR
S
DE
December 29th, 2008 at 11:30 am
darkknight01 Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 11:21 am
Dakota Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 10:55 am
Jhill,
If we draft a LT in round one, we just let the rookie and Henderson battle it out with the loser tacking the RT spot.
^Exactly! Either way it makes the O-Line stronger..
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The problem is the feet and technique from a LT to a RT is completely different. You would think it would be easy to switch, it is not a easy to do.
The LT has usually no help and is left on the open side of the field and the RT has usually a tight end to help him block on the short side of the field usually called the strong side.
The premium for LT is very evident, look at Cleveland and Miami the last two drafts, the money they paid for those LT is in the millions.
The LT has to be quick and strong to face the teams best rushing end.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:30 am
Gallery comes to mind
December 29th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Back to the 70’s : Cornell Green is 2nd in the league in false starts. Kwame Harris is 1st. Green was brought in because he was familiar with the zbs from his time in denver. He couldn’t cut it there or in tampa, even as a backup. He became starter here by default, because nobody else could challenge him for the job. Paul McQuistan filled in for him and played just as well or better last 5 games of last year. Mario Henderson & Robert Gallery are the only locks for starting o-line next year, unless we abandon the zbs, then we could be looking at 5 new OL starters.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:31 am
MORE COWBELL!!!!
lmao Florida Pete
Blue Oyster Cult
December 29th, 2008 at 11:32 am
I’m sure the Saints Find their Free Agent aquisition of Drew Brees was too expensive, and I’m absolutely positive that Atlanta is mad about all the money they gave Michael Turner. Quit it please.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Raider Dell:I agree with you wholeheartedly.Nnamdi should be the Raiders #1 priority.The Raiders Know the high price to keep him is worth it. On and off the field worries are at a minimum with him.If the Raiders don’t keep him I feel he will be nemesis from playoff victorys for years to come.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:33 am
Why couldn’t they mix in Michael Bush before? All three of those backs have something to offer.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:34 am
70’s
We tend to play well against smaller quick Dlines.
Baltimore crushed us. We need another physical tackle.
I do agree alot is in place but we have a chance with this draft to be one of the best running teams in the NFL. This approach also will be a tremendous help to JR. He is not ready to throw 40 passes a game but he is very effective with play action/screens and about 20-25 per game.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Sign Jeff Saturday (C Colts)
Then Sign Haynesworth (DT Tenn)
Then draft a LT MLB and WR
December 29th, 2008 at 11:35 am
it did piss me off when Bush rode the bench when both Fargas and McFadden were banged up…
i will never get that…
it was one of the biggest reasons i thought kiffie should go…
December 29th, 2008 at 11:37 am
Baltimore has crushed a lot of teams. I agree we do need more help offensively but, I just don’t trust the draft for a can’t miss tackle. We can draft a tackle in the third or fourth round.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:41 am
70’s
We did great with Gannon as well.
If you look around the league the most succesful teams build through the draft and sprinle in an occasional FA.
One mistake (Walker) can really limit you from a cap perspective.
By the way how do you think Mangini feels about the Favre pick up? How did Snyder’s free agents do?
December 29th, 2008 at 11:42 am
we spent a boat load of cash on Gibril Wilson, Javon Walker & DeAngelo Hall last offseason.
Imagine how much good players like Jeff Saturday, Albert Haynesworth & TJ Houshmandzedah would cost us …
December 29th, 2008 at 11:43 am
SilverNblack666 Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Sign Jeff Saturday (C Colts)
Then Sign Haynesworth (DT Tenn)
Then draft a LT MLB and WR
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i’d rather have Corey Williams… maybe cleveland will give him to us for Gallery?
suggest something… somebody…
December 29th, 2008 at 11:44 am
The Jets paid a lot in free agency. They still didn’t make the playoffs.
Now Brett Favre will retire, they’ll get an entire new coaching staff and be stuck with Kellen Clemens at QB. Plus they’ll be out some draft picks from the Favre trade. NICE!
December 29th, 2008 at 11:46 am
The Jets were 4-12 before Farve and if they had won yesterday they would be in the Playoffs. I think Mangini would do it all over again.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Personally I think that Robert Gallery had his best year as a pro this season. Keep him around.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:47 am
…Parcells back to the Jets
December 29th, 2008 at 11:47 am
70’s
That is what has killed this team. Other than 2004 when was the last time we invested a first or second round pick on either line?
This is the last piece of the puzzle.
I was fine with the JR pick and Dmac because they are special talents. I also knew they would not get us wins right away because of development issues(JR) and our Oline. We need to start winning games and the skill positions are far enough along.
On the defense when your strong safety leads the team in tackles you have a line problem.
We can fortify both thesa areas with this draft.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:48 am
Gallery did have a great year for a left Guard. We drafted him to play Left Tackle. I am glad that he is doing something for the money we gave him but, please he should sign for the league minimum to give us back some of the money he stole from us.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:49 am
RockStar, are you making fun of the Jets for making bad trades? Want to talk about that Gruden deal to Tampa? Worked wonders for us, didn’t it? I mean, just look at our record since…
December 29th, 2008 at 11:49 am
Word on the street is… Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 11:47 am
…Parcells back to the Jets
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Not so much. He is open to suggestions, but I doubt he would work here. Too many problems with Al to have a working relationship.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:49 am
I think Gibril Wilson played well for us this year. I think of all the big dollar signings he was the only one that earned his money.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:50 am
I thought Morrison led the team with tackles? I’m not sure but, I thought I heard them say that before the game.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:50 am
SilverNblack666 Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 11:49 am
I think Gibril Wilson played well for us this year. I think of all the big dollar signings he was the only one that earned his money.
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you are right on the money with that one.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:50 am
So, pete, were you one of the people complaining when Bush was playing FB? I didn’t see it, if you were. I mean, since you’re so angry at Kiffin for misusing Bush.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Considering Davis had Bush playing FB, you have to wonder if it was his call to have him benched when Kiffin was here, too. I mean, it’s not like Al is a hands off owner…
December 29th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Parcells will be in the exact same position that he holds with Miami. Parcells will be opting out of his current contract due to the change in ownership control. The ZJets will be his next project.
Parcells will hire another one of his guys and ask Favre to stick around 1 more year. He will then sign qb Chris Simms and turn the Jets into a playoff team.
You heard it here first Nation!
December 29th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Gallery makes Left Tackle money. And I haven’t zeroed in on him against powerful DT’s. I think we still have a problem with powerful Defensive fronts.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:52 am
Back to the 70’s Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 11:50 am
I thought Morrison led the team with tackles? I’m not sure but, I thought I heard them say that before the game.
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He did lead them again for the 4th year, but he is not the run staffer he needs to be. He would play better at the weak side or in a nickle situation then on running downs. He is too small and often gets run over when teams try to wear down the interior of our d line.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:52 am
MR
Grudens record since the SB win is
45-51 Yeah that’s great!!!
He won with Dungy’s team and since then has done squat!
They are calling for his head in Tampa
Do you still want to ride his nut sack so hard?
December 29th, 2008 at 11:52 am
Chaos
Learn to read I said JETS, not RAIDERS.
MR
The FB transformation was long after Kiffin left. Get a clue and try to let it go…
December 29th, 2008 at 11:52 am
70’s
If Favre is done who will be their QB?
They could easily go back to 4-12.
Mangini was fired this morning so I am not sure he would agree with you.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:53 am
Let’s look at the Bellichick coaching tree.
Charlie Weiss- barely winning in Notre Dame, has one more year before he gets fired.
Mangini-fired after three seasons, wasn’t he a can’t miss HC, didn’t every owner want him three years ago.
Romeo Crennell-was highly touted as a DC, head coach of the Browns he was teamed up with Savage to be the next Pioli and Bellichick duo. Fired.
A HC is as only good as your players and the coaches will only receive great status when they can perform to a winning level of football.
A HC is not a savior of a team, it will always be the players.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:53 am
Word on the street is… Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 11:52 am
Chaos
Learn to read I said JETS, not RAIDERS.
MR
The FB transformation was long after Kiffin left. Get a clue and try to let it go…
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Read the writing on my nutts bytch. I know what the fuk you said, and thought it was a stupid as every other comment you have made since.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:54 am
Was it Art Shell’s decision when Marcus was benched? Just goes to show how Al is with his running backs, especially if someone else wanted them. I have a feeling Bush is going to be the next great running back that Al Davis is going to bench and run out of town. Watch. Who wants to bet we barely even use him next year, and you guys will be trying to rationalize it? Watch. I’ve been a fan of this team for too many years. It’s all becoming routine, anymore. Year from today, Bush is riding pine and you guys are making excuses for it, saying we’ll get more production out of Joe Blow, whatever.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:54 am
Raider Dell
None of those from the Bellichik coaching tree have had the luxury of “video assistance” at their disposal once they left NE!
There is your answer!
December 29th, 2008 at 11:54 am
LOL, the guy making up the Parcells rumors just to get attention is telling me to get a clue…
December 29th, 2008 at 11:55 am
CORNERBACK?
Lots of geniuses in here ready to send a pro bowl corner packing for a draft pick we can use to get the next Mike Huff or Fabian Washington. They also like to say CJ, Routt etc aere fine.
THEY’RE ALL FREE AGENTS!
That’s right – due to brilliant work by our GM our entire secondary is UNSIGNED. Asomough, CJ, Routt, Miller, Baker – every corner – all free agents as of today.
Retain Miller as KR and Aso and CJ minimum. If you’ve followed the Raiders more than five minutes you know you can’t plug anyone in at corner (D Hall, F Washington, L Brown, P Buchanon).
Out final tally on Run D? Second worst run D in franchise history in yards and TDs. 2007 was worse (barely)Lose our pass D and we are toast.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:55 am
YOU SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT REY MAUALUGA. THIS GUY IS A BEAST OF A LINE BACKER. HE IS JUST MONTROUS. THIS GUY WOULD BE THE HEART AND SOUL OF A DEFENSE REALLY NEEDING A HEAD CRUSHER.
http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=8&c=1&nid=3833929&yr=2009
THIS GUY WILL TAKE HEADS OFF.
IM OFFICIALLY ON THE REY “THE HEAD CRUSHING” MAUALUGA.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:56 am
Word on the street, I remember making up rumors to get attention when I was like 12. How old are you? Just curious.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:56 am
He was 4-12 without Favre. With Favre he is one posession from the playoffs. Yes Favre cost him the game but, I’m sure if you asked him he would do it all over again. He went from Mangenius a few years ago to looking for a job this year. It’s the NFL (not for long) I would take a 9 – 7 year right now. If you offer it to me.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:56 am
Chaos
You obviously DIDN’T read what I wrote and your lack of intellectual prowess has caused you to rely on your tried and true ignorance!
Don’t even go there with me son cause I WILL OWN YOU little b1tch!
December 29th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Dell:
Where is Rob Ryan on “the Bellichick coaching tree”?
December 29th, 2008 at 11:57 am
The thing Gruden is:
Dungys team or not, Record since or not.
He porked Al Davis big time in the Super Bowl. Of all people!
December 29th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Al Davis is going to die in his wheelchair, and nobody’s going to notice for weeks. You heard it here, nation.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Koolkell – GALLERY ADJUSTED HIS CONTRACT.
He doesn’t get LT money.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:58 am
Henderson makes the upcoming draft interesting, is he going to be the new Barry Simms?? We draft “franchise Left Tackles” and he beats them in camp. At the end of the season he was very impressive. Look at the DE’s that he faced and shut down (Seymour, Williams and Adams)I think that he has earned the right to start next year, the only way we should draft a LT is if he is an immediate upgrade over Henderson and remember if we keep the zone blocking system, historically (with the exception of the Broncos this year) you can find lineman late in the draft. Remember we started Gallery out of position and look how that hurt his career. There are lots of needs for this team but i think when you have a top ten pick you pick best available talent, unless you are so deep at that spot it doesn’t make sense, so outside of RB and QB, i think the best available football player (what he does on the field, not at the combine) is the way to go.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:59 am
THAT WHY WE NEED TO DRAFT A MLB IN THE FIRST ROUND. THEY USUALLY DONT COST AS MUCH AS OTHER SEXY PICKS. REY MAUALUGA IS A MONSTER IF THE REST OF YOU DONT GET IT THEN WE SHOULD TRADE DOWN.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Kell, it’s too bad Gruden’s not panning out to be great. I was hoping he’d be another Al Davis gem that went on to do well. Gruden isn’t all that? Well then I guess Al whiffed by hiring him, too.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Here is our 4th round selection…
our brand spanking new middle linebacker:
Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina
Height: 6-2. Weight: 267.
Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
If Wilson doesn’t have the most tackles then he is second.
I agree that he was a great pick up and worth the money. He sould not need to tackle so much and our Dline needs improvement.
For every Wilson there are a Sands, Burgess(injured too often),Hall,Walker,Warren etc that eat up alot of cap dollars for RELATIVELY little production.
Drafting young talent should be our first priority.
We are close to getting this turned around.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
MR
Your mouth has been on Gruden’s nut sack for so long I didn’t know you took a break long enough to read this blog.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
cornerbacks are dime a dozen if you have a good pass rush. Ask the Giants …
December 29th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Guess Al can’t spot good coaches anymore. Gruden’s turning out to be a failure. That means we can’t use Gruden’s success as an accolade for Al Davis and his ability to spot coaching talent, anymore. That means it’s been decades since Al Davis has been able to seek out a good head coach. Too bad. Gruden being good would have made Al look good, too.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Dell:
Where is Rob Ryan on “the Bellichick coaching tree”?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
That tree has already fallen, he just doesn’t know it yet.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
666, your mother’s mouth is on my nutsack, right now.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
The Thing is, he Porked Davis in the Super Bowl. The guy Davis “fired” porked him in the very next Super Bowl. Smacking the franchise down for years.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
MR:
you said if the Raiders beat the Bucs that you would lobby for Tom Cable to be Head Coach of the Raiders next season. you making good on that statement?
doesn’t sound like you’re overly optimistic (still talking about Kiffin & Gruden).
December 29th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Word on the street is… Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 11:56 am
Chaos
You obviously DIDN’T read what I wrote and your lack of intellectual prowess has caused you to rely on your tried and true ignorance!
Don’t even go there with me son cause I WILL OWN YOU little b1tch!
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Hey R-Tard,
The only thing of me that you will own is my baby batter down your throat.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
The Raiders have been cursed since the Gruden trade, Kell. A lot of the Davis guys think that because we went to the Super Bowl in ‘02, Gruden didn’t matter. But look at what happened in that Super Bowl. I mean, we didn’t just lose by like a touchdown or whatever.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
KoolKell
If the stupidest coach in the world (Bill Callahan) had not decided to use the very playbook Gruden created against him in a game that big, we all might be singing a different tune right now.
I mean how much brain power does it take to change the game plan.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Rockstar
756
Absolutely correct.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=8&c=1&nid=3833929&yr=2009
CHECK OUT REY HE IS A MONSTER. HE IS THE HEART AND SOUL OF THIS DEFENSE INCLUDING TAYLOR MAYS AND COMPANY. WE NEED MAUALUGA FOR SURE. MOVE MORRISSON OUT SIDE AND WERE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST LINEBACKING CORPS IN THE NFL.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
MR you make dead women suck your nuts
You are sicker than I originally thought
maybe you are an ok guy after all
December 29th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Rockstar – NOT IN THIS DEFENSE.
If we drop our man scheme then corners are a dime a dozen. Since Al will not do that, WE NEED CORNERS. We have two solid ones now. Losing them for ifs, thens and maybes is stupid. You don’t build a team by developing guys for other teams. That’s what farm leagues are for and why the raiders play like a farm team.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
RockStar, we obviously beat a Tampa team with a lame duck coaching staff yesterday. It was obvious they weren’t bringing everything. They were walking to the line of scrimmage in their no huddle, on their last drive. They’re not the same. I said that if Cable won he should stay. But let me ask you, are you confident in him based on the sole accomplishment of beating a lame duck Tampa team?
December 29th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Raiders hope to speak with Giants’ Gilbride…….
Get ready nation. As the retread coaches make there way in…
December 29th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Whats so funny is year after year month after month and one this is constant in this blog.
MR loves Gruden and will do anything he can to protect Gruden’s nut sack in this blog
December 29th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
666, your mom actually died sucking me. She choked on it, like Blow Job Betty. Now get lost, moron.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=8&c=1&nid=3833929&yr=2009
BIG PLAY REY COME ON GUYS. HES FROM CALI AND IS A USC PRODUCT. HES THE PICK WE NEED IN THE FIRST. THEN WR IN THE SECOND OR THIRD.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Crennel pays a visit to fill the Rooney quota
December 29th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Rey is playing behind some studs on the Dline at USC.
Without a good DT in front of him he may not be what you think in the NFL.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
This is for you MR
www2.tbo.com/content/2008/dec/28/jon-be-gone-glazers-must-make-call/sports-bucs/
December 29th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Rey Rey’s not the man for Oakland.
His coverage is “suspect” and Oakland will be looking for an every down MLB IF they look at all.
They may think Morrisons fine. I don’t…
December 29th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
666, your buddy in that corny trailer trash band died giving a blog job too, I heard.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
666, almost everyone you know died giving blow jobs. So I think we know how you’re going to go. Good thing is, Al Davis only shoots powder anymore, so you’ll probably be OK. But Herrera’s taking vi-agra and can still fill up your lungs. So know when to take it out, queenie.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEA_4loz52U
watch this pick from maualuga and you think he doesnt have pass protection skills. this guy IS THE FULL PACKAGE. YOU CANT GET ANY BETTER THAN THIS.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
666, you’re name is so cool. A gay rocker who worships Satan. So awesome. Like totally, dude.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Winning the last two like we did may only reinforce Al’s view that his scheme is do able.
When the offense can stay on the field and more importantly produce points, this defense is in its element, shutting down the pass and protecting leads for the win.
Add Bush to the mix late and the offense can do that too apparently.
I would be incredibly shocked to see Ryan go anywhere even though his run D #s have suuuuucked.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
BTW – How many more pass rushers will actually get pressure? Burgess, Scott, Edwards, Clemmons (oh sorry, farm league again). You guys realize that you will never have more than 2 DE’s on the field? Just wondering because you seem to think if we sign and draft 8 or 9 pass rushers we’ll be good.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Yes MR I agree anyone stupid enough to suck on your toxic nut sack should be killed and fast.
It hurts you when I talk about Gruden doesn’t it. It hurts you to see his record of 45-51 mediocrity.
well suck on that for a while loser not even teh folks in Tampa want Gruden arround. In fact he is only welcome in your gay fantasies.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Morrison will look alot better with a better Dline.
Second pick ought to be a DT.
Did you see who was on the Dline at the end of yesterdays game? We were using Richardson at tackle.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
666, you brought up Gruden’s nutsack, not me. I only talked about your mom blowing me, and choking to death on my jizz. There’s nothing gay about it.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
# edward teach Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 8:08 am
Things I like about Gilbride;
1. He has shown that he can work with mulitple weapons.
2. He is not afraid to throw deep.
3. He has had success with Eli, who is a low-key
southern kid, relatively unflappable and
coachable. That pretty much describes JR.
4. He has been to the dance.
Things I’m not sure about;
1. Their blocking scheme is different than ours.
2. Are we willing to change it?
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well Zorn came to Washington, and didnt change the run scheme but the pass scheme, I don’t if the same could be don here, but our run game is good…
December 29th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Hey, why do you name yourself 666? Do you worship Satan? Is your mother in hell?
December 29th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Just STFU little guy, what are you 12?
December 29th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
MR is obsessed with me because he was a hated below average writer that has homo sexual fantasies about ex coach Gruden.
When you have accomplished nothing in your life its fun to try and make fun of successful people inst it.
Whatever makes you feel better little man.
Glad I could help a troll out!!
December 29th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Dang Suspect – you’re making me hope we don’t pick Rey with your blather. What? You work for his agent?
December 29th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Me, 12? I’m not the one making up Parcells rumors just to get attention.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
strange thing is that most of the players that leave the Raiders for the most part suck on other teams.
Stew (backup with the Det. Lions)
J. Porter – doing a Javon Walker impression with the Jags.
Lamont Jordan – still sucks
Tyler Brayton – see Lamont Jordan
I’m curious to see what Ron Curry will do after seeing all of his former teammates around the league. Don’t be surprised if he buys in and takes a huge paycut. Asomugha will be sucessful where ever he goes but how many teams play to his strength’s (man coverage) as much as the Raiders do? This off season will be fun to watch
December 29th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
666, you didn’t answer my question. You name yourself “666″, which is the devil’s number, right? Why do you do that? Is your mother in hell? Is that how you keep in touch with her? Anyhow, if you talk to her, tell her I’ll give you the $25 I owe her. She normally charged me $50 for a half and half but obviously she died during the first half…
December 29th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
MR Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
“RockStar, we obviously beat a Tampa team with a lame duck coaching staff yesterday. It was obvious they weren’t bringing everything. They were walking to the line of scrimmage in their no huddle, on their last drive. They’re not the same. I said that if Cable won he should stay. But let me ask you, are you confident in him based on the sole accomplishment of beating a lame duck Tampa team?”
MR you are like a fukking broken record. You have the same lame excuse cued up and ready to go EVERY TIME!
Also next time you troll my name you may consider removing your lame hyperlink you fukkin moron!
December 29th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
PLUS HES A HARD HITTER. YOU GUYS JUST WANT THE SEXY PICK AND THATS CRABTREE. WE NEED A MONSTER AND SOME MORE ETHNIC BACKGROUNDS ON THAT D. NOT JUST BLACK AND WHITE. THIS GUY IS BIG PLAY REY. I SAW THAT ONE HIT MORRISON SHOULD OF LAID ON THE RUNNING BACK ON THIRD AND SHORT AND HE SHOULD OF LAID HIM OUT BUT HE SLIPPED BY AND GOT THE FIRST. WE NEED MORE PHYSICAL PLAYERS ON D. COME ON GUYS THIS IS THE RAIDERS NOT SOME POP WARNER TEAM. WE NEED A JACK TATUM TYPE OF HITTER. YOU GUYS ALWAYS TALK ABOUT HOW SOFT OUR D IS. COME ON GUYS WE SORELY NEED THIS GUY. THEN WE WILL BE THAT HARD HITTING FEARED TEAM IN THE NFL.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
# TheRaiderDon Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Watch out for Tampa making a play for Ryan!
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what a weird thing to say…
first, they have their DC in place for next year..
second, tampa is filled with players that couldn’t play in RoRy’s scheme…
December 29th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
What kind of feeble minded person gets so upset about words written on a computer screen. I imagine the same kind of intellect that fears a number.
You are emotionally weak and a social outcast I understand that blogging makes you feel adequate so I wont hurt your feelings anymore.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Word on the street, any more rumors you want to make up today?
December 29th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
MR, why do I get the feeling that if the Raiders hadn’t come from behind yesterday, you’d be in here saying, “Ah ha! See what happens on the road against a quality opponent? They fold up like a tent.” There’d be no mention whatsoever of ‘lame duck’. Admit it: you hate the Raiders and are gonna be severely bummed next season when they’re winning more often than not.
I will give you this much, though: that Silver 666 guy is a total d!ck.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
clearly, the tone, tenor and subject matter on this blog took a nose dive…
let’s see… when did this happen???
what is the common denominator for ridiculous hate filled bullschit on this blog most of the time???
let me see… hmmm…
ah… some ridiculous man calling himself MR…
what does that stand for, anyway??? it couldn’t be Mentally Retarded… i mean that would be retarded…
hmmm…
December 29th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
666, I’m just asking you a question. Why the “666″? Are you trying to look cool? Do you think your cool, SilverNblack666?
December 29th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Chaos Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
“Hey R-Tard,
The only thing of me that you will own is my baby batter down your throat.”
Please take your g@y fantasies to an appropriate blog. You are obviously obsessed. No wonder you are so stupid. You are too busy sukking dik to learn how to read!
December 29th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Wat up MR? How is my B!tch today?
December 29th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJhktBHplvg&feature=related
THIS GUYS A BONE CRUSHER WE NEED IM ON HIS BAND WAGON.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Pete, you should know what mentally retarded people act like. I mean, you’re from Florida and admit it..
December 29th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
MR do you hear that? Turn around!
December 29th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Cali Boy, how’s your bitch today? She’s fine. She comes over here because you don’t now how to f**k her. She likes it good and hard, but you’re too scared to do it like that. Just telling you what she says, homie. You asked about your bitch.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
I love to suck dix
December 29th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
LMN
please don’t start on with that whole Cover 2 thing again. You made it clear the other day that you have absolutely no idea what the Cover 2 is!
Word on the street
I didn’t troll as you moron! It was Oakglenn.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Is it still fun 209? Huh, do you like tossing salad?
December 29th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
lol the 666 conversation AGAIN??
satan is just an angel.. maybe not a good one, but still =) lol
December 29th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Guys that leave the Raiders have included – R Coleman (pro-bowl DT), LaRoi Glover (pro-bowl DT), C Wood (pro bowl S/CB), M Stincomb (starting RT NO), F Washington (better than D Hall), K Collins, R Moss (pro-bowl), Clemmons (sack leader in Philly), D Clark (run stuffing MLB we let go), and so on…
December 29th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Cali Boy up, why are you telling me to turn around? Now I know why your girl’s over here. You’re into dudes. She said how you get upset when she shaves it. You like it hairy? Wow. I mean, whatever, homie. She just thinks you have issues, and likes to come over here to a real man. That’s all.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaIM_yGOlYc&feature=related
IF WE GET THIS GUY WE PROBABLY COULD PLAY ROBS PREVENT A LITTLE BETTER CHECK THIS LINK OUT. THIS GUY THE REAL DEAL THE BEST IN THE NATION AND YOU CAN PLUG HIM IN FROM DAY ONE AND HELL BE A DIFFERENCE MAKER.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
F that bitch Gilbride. Keep the Cable.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
You heard it here first y’all!
December 29th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
LMN, I’m not even religious. I don’t care about the 666 thing. But he’s a really deep kind of guy, who you just have to expect to be religious. I’m just wondering if he thinks hes irreverent, or cool, or whatever. If that’s his trip. Because he’s not.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
# MR Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
LMN
please don’t start on with that whole Cover 2 thing again. You made it clear the other day that you have absolutely no idea what the Cover 2 is!
Word on the street
I didn’t troll as you moron! It was Oakglenn.
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East Bay Ray.. I have’t been trolled for some time now, so I don’t now what you talk about…
December 29th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Oooh, I just put 666 in my name. Don’t mess with me!!
December 29th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
MR, everything that B!tch says is true, but I am done with her now. It is your turn now!
December 29th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
# MR Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
LMN, I’m not even religious. I don’t care about the 666 thing. But he’s a really deep kind of guy, who you just have to expect to be religious. I’m just wondering if he thinks hes irreverent, or cool, or whatever. If that’s his trip. Because he’s not.
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you say you dont care… but clearly you do..
December 29th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Dell,
Somewhere up there you talked about it being difficult to transition from LT to RT. You are right of course, but it has been done many many times…the key would be recognizing which player you want at LT early and then getting the loser of the two as much time at RT as possible in the remainder of camp and preseason.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Next years opponets beside the 3 losers in afc west
Steelers
Ravens
Bengals
Browns
Jets again
Texans again
Giants
Cowboys
Eagles
Redskins
December 29th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
209 on the “205″ in the wall.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Hate-tard. Or Hateard if you prefer. Lets talk Raiders. You two can give out your private e maikl addresses if you want to continue your inane banter about cock death and prostitue moms.
Lots of news in raider land instead of homophibia ville.
Rey Rey won’t get picked by the Reyders. Just don’t see it.
Unless of course he runs a 4.2 at the combine…
December 29th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Coyote
Was their production worth the contract they got?
None have won a super bowl to my knowledge.
I do agree that Coleman and Clemons would have been good to keep but not at the prices they were looking for.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
C’mon Tracy boy, lets go outside and play.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
and what is it you mean idont know about cover 2?
what I said was true… most teams reaching the playoffs in the last 5 years, played cover 2..
December 29th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaIM_yGOlYc&feature=related
I WAS ON THE MCFADDEN BAND WAGON LAST YEAR NOW IM ON THE BIG PLAY REY BAND WAGON. HOPE HE GETS PICKED UP BY US. WE ARE GONNA REGRET IT NEXT YEAR IM TELLING YOU.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
MR how’s life? Are you doing ok?
December 29th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
We clearly need a tackle for 09′, but there may be some experienced plug ins avail in FA we wouldn’t have to groom for a couple of years. Need a RT more at this point it seems.
If Henderson can contunie to build his lower body strength and get quicker out of his snap, his run game could improve to the point he could start next year.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Passing up on Rey could be like passing up on Ray Lewis. Lewis isn’t on the Ravens defense so he can cover people. The OLB’s and the Safeties do all that. What we need is a Hammerhead in the middle who can kill anybody who comes into his territory. Someone that smells blood. I don’t know if Rey can be that in the NFL but he has shown he can do it in college.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
If I make more noise will people like me?
December 29th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
I dont think its MR… I think its somebody trolling as MR… MR usually dont take offense
December 29th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Dang, when I was here earlier it wasn’t this wierd in here…
December 29th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCDBC4JRLII&feature=related
HES THE MAN WE NEED ON THIS D HIM A GIBRIL WILL KNOCK HEADS OFF I GUESS YOU GUYS DONT WANNA TALK FOOBALL PLAYERS AND GET SOME BUM WR THAT WONT BE GAME READY UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
If I drive like a teenager, will it matter?
December 29th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Huff..
have y been talking to your buddy in San Diego??
December 29th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
ALWAYS BET ON WHITE…
December 29th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Its a leap from college to the pros and he’s got some talent in front of him at USC.
who knows what the hell we’ll do this off.
Hope its less dramatic than 08’s. Gawd what a mess that was!
December 29th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Grrr I hate my new keyboard
December 29th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
#24 Aka Huff24 Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Passing up on Rey could be like passing up on Ray Lewis. Lewis isn’t on the Ravens defense so he can cover people. The OLB’s and the Safeties do all that. What we need is a Hammerhead in the middle who can kill anybody who comes into his territory. Someone that smells blood. I don’t know if Rey can be that in the NFL but he has shown he can do it in college.
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agree with what you said about the role of a MLB…
but this is the guy… my 4th round pick…
Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina
Middle Linebacker
Height: 6-2. Weight: 267.
Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
# La Milicia Blanca Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
ALWAYS BET ON WHITE…
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passenger no 57, nice one =)
December 29th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Did anyone else see how stoned Jay Cutler was at the game last night? He got ahold of that purp I guess.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCDBC4JRLII&feature=related
BIG PLAY REY!!!BIG PLAY REY!!!BIG PLAY REY!!!BIG PLAY REY!!!
December 29th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
dakota,
where do u have McQuistan playing next year?
December 29th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Mr, did you just realize your mistake?
December 29th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1DzNzE0MFM
A random HUGE hit on Matt Ryan in college. I just came across it and thought I would share it.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Gilbride will just screw up Russells development IMO.
He was terrible as a HC in San Diego and I bet we would hate him with a passion here as well.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Jhill…
NYG..
December 29th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
SO YOUR SAYING HE DOESNT HAVE THE SIZE THE SPEED AND THE STRENGTH TO PLAY AT THE NEXT LEVEL YOU GUYS MUST BE JOKING. HE IS BIGGER FASTER AND STRONGER THAN RAY LEWIS HE THE MAN FOR THIS TEAM THAT REALLY NEEDS A A HITTER LIKE PATRICK WILLIS. HE IS SMALLER THAN REY AND HE WAS A PROBOWLER IN HIS ROOKIE SEASON. YOU GUYS ARE UNBELIEVABLE
December 29th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
In over three decades as a coach, Gilbride’s most memorable image may be a sideline incident while he was offensive coordinator for the Houston Oilers, which resulted in defensive coordinator Buddy Ryan throwing a punch at Gilbride. Another memorable event occurred during the 1992-93 NFL season when Gilbride was hospitalized with a rare form of kidney cancer and injured quarterback Warren Moon stepped in as acting offensive coordinator for the Houston Oilers.
During his time with the Oilers, Gilbride ran a variation of the Run & Shoot offense. The team finished in the top 5 in scoring each year with Gilbride as offensive coordinator.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
The Thing is, he Porked Davis in the Super Bowl. The guy Davis “fired” porked him in the very next Super Bowl. Smacking the franchise down for years.
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KK, that is the pass bro. Al slapped him like the boy he is yesterday. Everybody who watched the superbowl that year all said Dungy left a good team behind. With Gruden’s own players, battling for a playoff spot, they got trashed yesterday. Stick to the present bro.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
What the heck is a hyperlink?
December 29th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Brandon Spikes
December 29th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zXfvNjEBBI
HES THE GUY WE NEED NEXT YEAR HES THE REAL DEAL. WATCH DURING THE COMBINE HE GONNA HANDLE HIS.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Muhahahhahhah
December 29th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
BRING BACK CHUCKY!~
December 29th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
#24 Aka Huff24 Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Passing up on Rey could be like passing up on Ray Lewis. Lewis isn’t on the Ravens defense so he can cover people. The OLB’s and the Safeties do all that. What we need is a Hammerhead in the middle who can kill anybody who comes into his territory. Someone that smells blood. I don’t know if Rey can be that in the NFL but he has shown he can do it in college.
^ Exactly….Raiders don’t need a coverage MLB, they a hard working leader to can hit and will bring a whole new style and energy to the defense.
Maeuluga is a Polamulu,Reed,Seau,Lewis, type of impact player.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
Gilbride’s like Turner. He’s a coordinator. Can’t head coach. Same goes for Buddy Ryan, btw.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
See you soon honneeee
December 29th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
You all will soon see I was right about JaRuss! He will be a bust!
December 29th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
LMN – I talked to him once but forgot to mention what you said about the soccer team because I’ve been sick. =)
December 29th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Oaklands decline came soon after because they were one of the oldest teams EVER.
This rebuild BS took longer because of he 5 diff coaches since.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
White Frank Black,
Chucky would come here to build a winning team, and he’d clash with Al. Al Davis doesn’t build winning teams. He builds teams that fit his ideology of what a team should be, and will blame his head coach when they lose. Every head coach in the universe knows that now, which is why they’ll either come here to be puppets and collect a check (Fassell), or they won’t come here at all. Our only move is to hire a GM.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WyMRq-7SLA&feature=related
REY REY REY REY.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
It should have been Schaud
December 29th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
I also see Gilbride as another Norv Turner. Big mistake.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Ray Lewis threatened to retire three years ago unless the Ravens drafted a stud DT.
They picked up Ngata in the first round.
This kid out of SC would get knocked on his ass playing behind Warren and Sands.
Draft a DT in round two. Rey is going to a team that already has a defensive tackle.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
666 answer me! Minion!
December 29th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
868 not me.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
No one said we need a coverage backer, its been said he’ll struggle against pro level TE’s and RB’s in coverage.
Who knows? He can rush the passer, maybe if left Morrison and Howard to do their coeverage thang.
Still, no way he gets taken w/ pick 7
December 29th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
871 not me, either.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Here’s our 5th round draft choice…
probably 2nd string center next year, full time starter the next…
Dallas Reynolds, BYU
Height: 6-5. Weight: 328.
Projected 40 Time: 5.30.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
Huff, Gilbride is precisely another Norv Turner. Buddy Ryan is nothing more than a coordinator, too, but on the other extreme. He had loads of talent in Philadelphia, and all he’s remembered for is putting a bounty on his former kicker.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
If anything, Al Davis will bring Gilbride in just to pick his brain and give him ideas on things hes not going to implement anyways. He’s just nosy and wants a piece of the action. I think he has interviews just so he can have someone to talk to. Maybe hes missing that special football dialogue and he wants to share the History of the Raiders with someone new because everyone else is tired of hearing it.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
874 not me either.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
# #24 Aka Huff24 Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
LMN – I talked to him once but forgot to mention what you said about the soccer team because I’ve been sick. =)
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ahh oh well, get well soon, thats what important!
December 29th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Alright, MR and his bizzare ass want of SB666 plus the “I’d love to **** Rey!” fan club has gotten stale.
Konichiwa Bishes
December 29th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
HES THE NEXT SEAU TYPE OF HARD HITTER. IF YOU GUYS DONT REMEMBER HIM FROM WHEN HE WAS IN SAN DIEGO YOU KNOW WHAT HE WAS CAPABLE OF. WE NEED THIS GUY TO BE OUR NUMBER 1. PLUS LINEBACKERS ARE CHEAPER TO SIGN IN THE DRAFT THAN A HIGH PROFILE OVER HYPED WIDE RECIEVER.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
MR, you know me.
I know you.
I know what you do with your life.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
we need a GM/Personnel man more than anything….then bring in Harbaugh as HC, let Cable be the assistant HC/O line coach and play caller.
Keep Rathman, Lofton and Schnieder….let Knapp go…
Let go of the underachieving Ryan and hire Sean McDermott, Mike Waufle or Eric Mangini as D-Coordinator
December 29th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Romeo gets brought in to fill the Rooney quota
December 29th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
well Im going to watch the last episode of TopGear..
see ya, hope or pusher ave something ready for us when i get back =)
December 29th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Turn around!
December 29th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Huff, I think people make too much of this coaches having respect for Al Davis thing. I don’t think they do. They just pay it lip service. How much respect can they have for him when they absolutely refuse to work for him? I think they just get a kick out of him, and that’s it.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
FB: Lorenzo Neal, Tony Richardson (if Oneal is out)
Backup QB: Losman, Boller
WR: TJ Housmandiddy, Antonio Bryant, Bryant Johnson
T: Jordan Gross, Jon Runyan or Mark Tauscher
C: Matt Birk, Jason Brown or Tom Nalen (old but might work short-term)
DT: Haynesworth, Colin Cole, Ryan Sims
DE: Peppers, Suggs, Canty
MLB: Dansby, Crowder, Peterson
Sign one or two of these guys and the Draft picture will clear right up. Obviously Hanyesworth, Suggs and Peppers are probably pipe dreams, but hey you never know!
Realistically, if we could sign one of those MLBs and one of those big body DTs we could then address T, C, WR and DE in the draft…
December 29th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Pete… good call on Brinkley. I had him going to us, I think in the second or third (?) in a post I made about a week ago. He’s got a little more sand in his britches than Laurenitis (who I don’t think is big enough to play MLB in the bigs) and apparently is a good run stopper. Plus, he can still run, which should satisfy those on this blog who think our MLB will be covering tight ends all the time. Not that he would be but, well, you know… did you check out Ron Brace? NT/DT Boston College 6-3/330; maybe a fourth rounder…
December 29th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Dont go outside. It is rainin cats and DOGS!
December 29th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Listen Supect Gay, Oakland has done a FINE job of drafting LBs’ (Morrison and Howard) but there ain’t no way we take him no matter how “Gey for Rey” you are. Give it a rest…
December 29th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
888. Dakota, Tauscher blew his knee.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Dansby, Crowder, or Peterson would be great pickups…
December 29th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Well Dogg #854
Like I aid earlier or yesterday. It began with Tampa Bay, maybe it ends there.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WyMRq-7SLA&feature=related
THIS SHOULD BE THE NEXT PICK. AL PLEASE PULL THE TRIGGER ON HIM. YOU REALLY THINK THIS KID IS GOING TO GET PUSHED AROUND. THIS GUY IS CLOSE TO 260 LBS. WERE TALKING DE SIZE WITH EXELLENT SPEED. YEAH LETS JUST CONTINUE WITH MORRISON AND HOWARD CONTSTANTLY MISSING TACKLES WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE WIRE ON THIRD AND 7.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
jhill Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
dakota,
where do u have McQuistan playing next year?
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You would have to ask Cable, he seems to think McQuistan is not good enough to play RT, so I guess bench would be where he is playing.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Darknight, I’m thinking Madden as GM. Madden is the only guy who really does still respect Al Davis, for the fact that he owes his career to him. Madden’s been doing some uncharacteristic things this year. Missed a game for the first time in decades. He’s had plenty of deaths close to him over the years during the football season, and has never missed a game. So I don’t buy that he just wanted to be around the old Raiders. Something’s cooking. He’s scaled back his involvement with the video game, too. I’m thinking he goes to Oakland for a few years to get things straightened out, and name a successor for himself as he will then retire.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
888. Dakota, Tauscher blew his knee.
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Done deal then…Raider fo sho!
December 29th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
889. Listen headward skeech, the point about coverage is valid.At least thats what 3 out of 4 sites that cover the NFL draft think.
Mis interpret all you want, the fact is the guys NOT WORTH THE PICK.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
John Madden knows today’s game as well as anyone. Certainly knows a world more about it than anyone currently employed by the Raiders, up to the owner.
December 29th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
898. You know it! wouldn’t surprise me. “Hey, got him cheap!”
December 29th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
John Madden as GM is our only move. Any other move will be futile.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Listen Supect Gay, Oakland has done a FINE job of drafting LBs’ (Morrison and Howard) but there ain’t no way we take him no matter how “Gey for Rey” you are. Give it a rest…
I HOPE THE CHARGERS DRAFT REY IN THE FIRST ROUND AND THEN WE WILL SEE HIM TWICE A YEAR AND WILL BE WHINING WHY REY AND THAT OTHER MONSTER THEY HAVE AT OLB/DE CRUSHES US BECAUSE WE WANTED CRABTREE.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Amazing to see the Raiders use the 2 min offense to drive down and score a TD before the 1st half!!!!!!
That was new. I think Russell’s turned the corner.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
# KoolKell Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Well Dogg #854
Like I aid earlier or yesterday. It began with Tampa Bay, maybe it ends there.
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what about the game where Gannon was scramled and ruined his neck? was that just 2nd act??
December 29th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
MR,
Madden would be an interesting choice.
He would probbaly only be around for 3 years max IMO to help with player personnel, evaluation and the draft.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
OUR DEFENSE IS SOFT AND YOU CAN SEE IT EVERY GAME. BUT WE NEED CRABTREE IN THE FIRST WHEN THERE ARE PLENTY OF GOOD WR IN THE SECOND AND THIRD ROUNDS.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Gilbride was 6-16 with a 0.272 winning percentage as an NFL Head Coach. No Thanks. Of course, he did coach for the Chargers and we all know the Chargers have always sucked and will never win a Superbowl so maybe every coach will look bad there?
December 29th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
suspect J Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Listen Supect Gay, Oakland has done a FINE job of drafting LBs’ (Morrison and Howard) but there ain’t no way we take him no matter how “Gey for Rey” you are. Give it a rest…
I HOPE THE CHARGERS DRAFT REY IN THE FIRST ROUND AND THEN WE WILL SEE HIM TWICE A YEAR AND WILL BE WHINING WHY REY AND THAT OTHER MONSTER THEY HAVE AT OLB/DE CRUSHES US BECAUSE WE WANTED CRABTREE.
^Thats exactly what I don’t want to see! I can see the Dolts taking Rey also if he is there. J-Ville will snatch him after us I think though….especially if Crabtree and Wells are gone.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
No doubt Madden wouldn’t be here for too long. I’m thinking 3 years, to mainly do what you said, just straighten everything out, and then name a successor for himself.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Madden knows as much about the modern day NFL as anyone Al Davis could hire as GM.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Also amazing that after Russell threw that devastating interception, they came right back and scored again.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
MR – It would be a scary thought marrying into Al Davis’ family because you’d expect to walk in and meet everyone and Al would grab you with his face in your face, talking about the greatness of the Raiders. Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE the Raiders but please. He would end up pulling you away from everyone else and talking to you for the next 10 HOURS I bet. Its one of those situations where you try to be nice and listen but after the first couple of hours, you’re wishing for someone to come and save you and your girl walks in and says, Oh my, its so nice to have you 2 getting along and then she leaves you in there and the rest of the family is happy because you distracted him away from the rest of the family so they can talk about something else. Haha.
Hes probably one of those people that has to stand in your face when he talks to you and everytime you take a step back, he takes a step forward so he stays in your bubble.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
I want Rey Too!!!
December 29th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
MR – You and I both know that Madden is only a dream. There is NO WAY that would ever happen. Madden is too tired for all of that. If he wanted to do that, he would have done it a long time ago.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
darkknight01 Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
suspect J Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Listen Supect Gay, Oakland has done a FINE job of drafting LBs’ (Morrison and Howard) but there ain’t no way we take him no matter how “Gey for Rey” you are. Give it a rest…
I HOPE THE CHARGERS DRAFT REY IN THE FIRST ROUND AND THEN WE WILL SEE HIM TWICE A YEAR AND WILL BE WHINING WHY REY AND THAT OTHER MONSTER THEY HAVE AT OLB/DE CRUSHES US BECAUSE WE WANTED CRABTREE.
^Thats exactly what I don’t want to see! I can see the Dolts taking Rey also if he is there. J-Ville will snatch him after us I think though….especially if Crabtree and Wells are gone.
AT LEAST SOME ONE IS WITH ME ON THIS ONE.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
kevin gilbride????
never!
December 29th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
We need to unite and fight for Rey to come to town. He will solidify our defense…can you imagine Morrison, Maualuga and Howard. This will be the best LB core.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
introducing our 2nd round pick…
he starts day one:
Defensive Tackle
B.J. Raji, Boston College
Height: 6-1. Weight: 325.
Projected 40 Time: 5.12.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
There will be plenty of WR available during free agency.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
UPDATE:
Alabama LT Andre Smith has been suspended by Sabaen for the Sugar Bowl game.
I would rather pick Oher or Monroe ahead of him anyway.
His weight issues and character worry me at least for a LT.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Suspect
Did you see the game yesterday?
Why a WR?
If you really follow the Raiders the thought of anything other than improving our line play in the draft should scare you.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
WE NEED TO SHUT NNAMDI UP BECAUSE HE IS JUST DOESNT WANT AL TO GET A REAL HARD HITTING LINEBACKER. HE WANTS ANOTHER 4.2 CORNER ALONG SIDE NNAMDI SO WE CAN GET RAN ALL OVER WITH OUR SOFT COVERAGE LINEBACKERS WE HAVE.
I NO ONE THINGS FOR SURE IS IF WE GET REY HE WILL AT LEAST HAVE ONE CHANCE TO HIT SOMEONE AND HE WILL MAKE IT COUNT AND LAY DEVASTAING BLOWS ON WHOEVER WANTS TO CROSS THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
then again, it says they want to interview him for a coaching position. that could mean a coordinator position.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
JLH and Chaz looked solid in the last three games.
…and keep giving the ball to Bush. If Gilbride is hired, Bush will be a better version of Brandon Jacobs.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
I would rather sign Houschmandzadeh instead of drafting Crabtree because Housch is already extablished and he’d work great with JLH and Schilens. We can fix other areas with that 1st round pick.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
The Oakland Raiders are in the process of requesting permission to speak with New York Giants offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride about their vacant head coach position, according to a report from ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen.
As the Giants enter their bye week for the opening round of the playoffs, Gilbride is expected to take the opportunity to interview for the job. New York (12-4) is the NFC’s top seed and has home-field advantage throughout the postseason.
However, Raiders sources tell Mortensen that interim head coach Tom Cable has a solid chance of retaining the post.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
If Fargas doesn’t get injured, we don’t win that game.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Suspect J – No need to yell. Seriously. If someone wants to read what you say, they will do it more without the caps. Believe me.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
um…
suspect j…
no more coffee today, okay???
December 29th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Oh boy….Al, Al I take it back Al…keep Cable!
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Raiders hope to speak with Giants’ Gilbride
ESPN.com news services
Updated: December 29, 2008, 2:39 PM ET
The Oakland Raiders are in the process of requesting permission to speak with New York Giants offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride about their vacant head coach position, according to a report from ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen.
As the Giants enter their bye week for the opening round of the playoffs, Gilbride is expected to take the opportunity to interview for the job. New York (12-4) is the NFC’s top seed and has home-field advantage throughout the postseason.
However, Raiders sources tell Mortensen that interim head coach Tom Cable has a solid chance of retaining the post.
Cable moved in to the role when Raiders owner Al Davis fired Lane Kiffin four games into this season. Cable won two straight games to finish the season and was 4-8 as head coach.
Cable is expected to meet with Davis soon. The owner did not travel with the team to Tampa Bay for the regular season finale because of a leg injury.
“I want to be the head coach of the Raiders, but it’s not in my hands,” Cable told reporters after Sunday’s game. “But I certainly know I put this team together and got it going in the right direction, and [Sunday's win] proved that.”
The Giants promoted Gilbride from quarterbacks coach to offensive coordinator after the 2006 season. The former offensive coordinator with the Houston Oilers, Jacksonville, Pittsburgh and Buffalo was a head coach for the San Diego Chargers.
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Jhill – Gilbride would not leave as the Offensive Coordinator of the Giants, to the Raiders as the Offensive Coordinator. Teams cannot hire away assistants unless they get a promotion so the only way it would happen is if they put Assistant Head Coach on top of the Offensive Coordinator title and I still can’t imagine him coming here.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
You would have to ask Cable, he seems to think McQuistan is not good enough to play RT, so I guess bench would be where he is playing.
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who says? Kiffin & Cable said McQ is more comfortable on one side, so they chose the left side for him. He was backup LT & LG before he got hurt and placed on IR. It’s not like he’s riding the pine right now, he’s on Injured Reserve! He backed up Cornell Green last year at RT, but not because Green is better. Green was familiar with the zone blocking system, McQ wasn’t. They said Mario Henderson wasn’t even challenging Harris or Green for playing time too, remember? He’s been our best tackle this season. They could be wrong about McQuistan too? Hopefully they’ll be able to figure that out before an injury occurs and he’s forced into the lineup, like Michael Bush & JLH too. Chris Johnson was better at man-to-man than D Hall. Eugene was a better FS than Huff (Huff only got 5 games though). Higgins & Schilens were more impressive than Curry & Lelie. The current staff can’t properly evaluate talent. Jon Alston & Trevor Scott could have gotten more playing time too imo. Could have gotten McFadden & Miller more touches, etc. Not sure if all of the above blame falls on Cable, Knapp, Kiffin, Ryan or Davis – but somehow we need to get better talent evaluators here. Not just to acquire new players, but to put the best players on the field at all times. not on accident, but on purpose.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Heyward-Bey would be a solid choice in round 2 if he falls that far.
He is big and is a play maker…he is faster than Crabtree also I believe.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Kirk – I completely agree. There would be alot more 3 and outs with Fargas in.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Charlie Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Suspect
Did you see the game yesterday?
Why a WR?
If you really follow the Raiders the thought of anything other than improving our line play in the draft should scare you.
ADDRESS OLINE PLAY IN THE SECOND ROUND.
I JUST DONT SEE A SOLID OT IN THE DRAFT.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Raiders | Russell wants Cable to return
Steve Corkran, of the Bay Area News Group, reports Oakland Raiders QB JaMarcus Russell said he would like to see interim head coach Tom Cable return as the head coach next season. “He brought us from one direction and took us up the ladder,” Russell said. “He always told us that deep down he thought we were a good football team. By him becoming (head) coach, he guided us in a different way. He talked to us about what needed to be done, we need to make some changes and within that, I think we did.”
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Whatever Russell wants, I want.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
#24 Aka Huff24 Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
I would rather sign Houschmandzadeh instead of drafting Crabtree because Housch is already extablished and he’d work great with JLH and Schilens. We can fix other areas with that 1st round pick.
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Bro,
Just an FYI. I know TJ, he played at Cerritos College when I was in school, and he told me recently that he is not coming to Oakland. He said that he was going to hit the market, but he wanted to go to a team that was a contender. He said most likely the Giants but it was too early to tell.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Gilbride was 6-16 with a 0.272 winning percentage as an NFL Head Coach. No Thanks.
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Lane Kiffin was 5-15. If Kiffin stayed one more game and won it, they’d have the same overall record. So why is Kiffin good enough to stay, but Gilbride isn’t even worth looking at? Gilbride has experience in the NFL and he’s had success running an offense and mentoring a young QB into a pro bowler & super bowl champion. Not Head Coach material? maybe not, but I think you at least interview the guy if he’s interested.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Can’t we get another offensive lineman who WASN’T out for the year? I’d rather have more potential or a free agent come in to play RT than McQuistan. What happens if he gets hurt right away? We still don’t know whether hes the answer and hes got as much potential as Grove in my books and thats not saying much. I think we either draft a rookie with more upside or we sign a solid veteran. I’d be for McQ if he hadn’t gotten hurt but we need to get rid of these injury prone players like Grove and Fargas.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
introducing our No 1 pick of the 2009 draft:
uh, that is if he declares:
Defensive Tackle
Terrence Cody, Alabama
Height: 6-5. Weight: 365.
Projected 40 Time: 5.50.
if drafted i would have him outfitted with surgically implanted extra-skeletal knees…
December 29th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
WE REALLY NEED A SOLID TACKLE IN THE DRAFT. BUT I JUST DONT WANT TO BE DISAPPOINTED AGAIN LIKE GALLERY
December 29th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Huff… Gilbride coached the Dolts back in 1997. Eleven years ago. Since then he’s worked in Buffalo for (I think) two years as the OC and then almost exclusively for Coughlin, who hired him in J’ville. The record with the Jags was a good one (they haven’t been as good since Coughlin left, actually) and Brunell went to the Pro Bowl while he was OC. Coughlin approached the Mara family and requested Gilbride specifically. He created the offense around Eli and Chris Palmer worked with Manning on his mechanics, etc. Houston (pre-SD), Buffalo and the Giants have all set franchise records for offense and scoring with Gilbride as OC. Jacksonville doesn’t count because they were expansion and every time you step on the field you set a new franchise record, but the stats and the preformances are there. Plus, he’s guided three different QBs to the Pro Bowl and those are definitely his accomplishments; Warren Moon was straight from Canada when Gilbride got him, Brunell was a nobody, and he started from ground zero with Eli.
Eleven years (and much accomplished since the SD job) later he is running the offense for the defending SB champs, who are also the top seed this year in the NFC.
One head coaching job eleven years ago does not a retread make. Hell, Fassel, Billick and Denny Green aren’t even EMPLOYED in the NFL right now.
Can Gilbride be a HC? I don’t know, but he certainly has some impressive credentials since the SD job. A lot can happen in 11 years. He might be ready, he might not. I just think he deserves an interview.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Chaos – Well. If what you say is true and I could believe that because I wouldn’t understand why he would go from the Bengals to the Raiders, then that sucks but I certainly wouldn’t blame the guy.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
As the Giants enter their bye week for the opening round of the playoffs, Gilbride is expected to take the opportunity to interview for the job.
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wow. i’m shocked. maybe he can convince Mike Waufle to come back here as DC?
December 29th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
huff, forgot about that …
then why the hell are we talking to Gilbride? is he a light skinned brutha who’s satisfying th Rooney rule?
December 29th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Wow!! If Russell plays well it’s because his own doing. When he plays bad it’s because of Al!!
And these are the same clowns talking about double standards in this Country!!! shhhh
December 29th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Ugh! not Gilbride! quick have Buddy Ryan go and beat ‘em down again just like the old days in Houston.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Chaos,
Sounds like your boy TJ is tired of playing for losing, bottom-dwelling teams…he should probably stay away from Oakland if they retain Cable and/or Rob Ryan.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Russell “Look. Cable’s a good guy. I want him here. When I want a donut, he doesn’t just let me have a donut. The guy goes out of his way to get a dozen and he sits next to me in the film room and we polish off a dozen together, just like a family. See. We have alot in common. We like football and we like food. It sure is motivating when I know theres a pastry waiting for me at the end of a game. Cable says, “All I have to do is win, so thats what I do and mmmmmm, its so much easier to do.”
I’m J/K. Its just fun to joke around.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
SIGN A SOLID TACKLE IN FREE AGENCY AND LOCK UP NNAMDI IN THE LONG TERM THEN GET REY IN THE FIRST ROUND AND WERE SET. WR IN THE SECOND.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Ok.
Here is my #1 draft pick.,
http://gamesnet.vo.llnwd.net/o1/faction/inline/42873-8.jpg
December 29th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
SOLID RUN STUFFING NTACKLE IN THE THIRD ROUND NOW THATS THE WAY TO DRAFT.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Dakota,
I didn’t say he was my boy. But I do have some people that I played ball with in the NFL and CFL. So I have an inside scoop.
http://www.impactlab.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/hot-chicks.jpg
December 29th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Buddy Ryan slugs Kevin Gilbride
Jan. 2. 1994. There’d been a long feud simmering between Oilers defensive coordinator Buddy Ryan and offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride. For example, Ryan repeatedly derided Gilbride’s “run-and-shoot” offense, calling it “chuck-and-duck.” The two hadn’t spoken to each other for a long time; and finally, the bad feelings boiled over into violence.
The Oilers, on an 11-game winning streak and headed for the playoffs, faced the Jets. They’d eventually win, 24-0; but what got things going was a play just before halftime when the Jets sacked Houston QB Cody Carlson, who fumbled. Ryan, angry at the play-call, punched Gilbride in the jaw.
Ryan explained himself later: “It’s a difference in coaching philosophy in the heat of the battle.”
Broncos coach Wade Phillips, who had worked for Ryan in Philadelphia, saw the punch on TV and said it didn’t surprise him. “He has slugged people on the sideline before,” Phillips said . “Assistant coaches who were next to him got it. I was always up in the press box with the headset on, so I didn’t.”
Said Gilbride the next day, “It’s a daily, ongoing thing. The comments, the sarcasm, the denigrating and disparaging remarks toward the offense. We try to just survive it. That’s what we’re going to do. My best way of handling it is to try to stay far away from the guy and try not to respond to his incessant remarks and just stay focused on who I thought the opponent was — the teams we play week to week.”
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Now that is some good stuff.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Holy Crapola:
http://www.mythicreality.com/album_pic.php?pic_id=408&full=true&user_id=2
December 29th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Everything but the dirty feet.
http://www.volvodriver.com.au/images/walk_of_life.jpg
December 29th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
1. RESIGN NNAMDI
2. SIGN A SOLID FA OFFENSIVE TACKLE
3. DRAFT REY MAUALUGA IN THE FIRST
4. GOOD QUALITY WR IN THE SECOND ROUND
5. THIRD ROUND GET THAT RUN STUFFING NOSE TACKLE AND WE HAVE ADRESSED PLENTY OF OUR NEEDS TO BE A PLAYOFF BOUND TEAM NEXT YEAR.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
folks are actually making a case for Gilbride, and good ones at that.
one good thing I can think of is a Ryan won’t be on his staff!
December 29th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
John Madden as GM is our only move. Any other move will be futile.
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MR: I think Madden enjoys life working in the booth with his best buddy. He’s 71 years old. I wouldn’t hire a GM under 60 years old, for fear they may risk a heart attack. This is a young man’s job. A tireless worker who knows current strategy and tactics. Al Davis likes to find diamonds nobody has ever heard of, then take all the credit when/if they succeed. I don’t think a hall of famer will ever work under Al Davis, nor will anybody who is or has been a proven Head Coach or GM.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Ahhhhhhhhhhh. The better things in life:
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb189/royahill/Hot%20women/hot.jpg
December 29th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Huff… I got some of my chronology wrong, sorry. He was at SD after J’Ville. I also failed to mention that, while Gilbride was at Buffalo, Bledsoe threw for over 4000 yards, he had two 1000 yd plus receivers, and Travis Henry rushed for 1400 yards. All in the same year.
With the young guns we have on our team now, who WOULDN’T want to talk to him?
December 29th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
cowher said no to the browns, but is open to other opportunities in 2009 ….
hmmmmmmm !!!!!!!
December 29th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
RaiderRockstar – You make a good point but I’ve gone sour on Kiffin. He hurt my good buddie Gruden by taking his father away from him and ruining his season. I will never forgive him for that. Haha. Our offensive lineman played better once that coach left for Kiffin so I think that turned out for the better.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
suspect J Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
1. RESIGN NNAMDI
2. SIGN A SOLID FA OFFENSIVE TACKLE
3. DRAFT REY MAUALUGA IN THE FIRST
4. GOOD QUALITY WR IN THE SECOND ROUND
5. THIRD ROUND GET THAT RUN STUFFING NOSE TACKLE AND WE HAVE ADRESSED PLENTY OF OUR NEEDS TO BE A PLAYOFF BOUND TEAM NEXT YEAR.
DOESNT THAT SOUND LIKE A SOLID OFF SEASON. WE WILL ADDRESS MANY NEEDS BY FUFILLING COMPLETING THESE TASKS.
SHUT DOWN CORNER
SOLID FREE AGENT PROVEN LEFT TACKLE
MONSTER MLB
NICE SOLID WR IN THE SECOND ROUND
RUN STUFFING DT IN THE THIRD
AND WERE IN BUSINESS.
DOES ANYONE THINK THEY CAN DO ANY BETTER?
December 29th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Gilbride is a pimp:
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/1395678.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939057D9939C83F106C38FED165DABC6485A5397277B4DC33E
December 29th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
suspect J Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
suspect J Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
1. RESIGN NNAMDI
2. SIGN A SOLID FA OFFENSIVE TACKLE
3. DRAFT REY MAUALUGA IN THE FIRST
4. GOOD QUALITY WR IN THE SECOND ROUND
5. THIRD ROUND GET THAT RUN STUFFING NOSE TACKLE AND WE HAVE ADRESSED PLENTY OF OUR NEEDS TO BE A PLAYOFF BOUND TEAM NEXT YEAR.
DOESNT THAT SOUND LIKE A SOLID OFF SEASON. WE WILL ADDRESS MANY NEEDS BY FUFILLING COMPLETING THESE TASKS.
SHUT DOWN CORNER
SOLID FREE AGENT PROVEN LEFT TACKLE
MONSTER MLB
NICE SOLID WR IN THE SECOND ROUND
RUN STUFFING DT IN THE THIRD
AND WERE IN BUSINESS.
DOES ANYONE THINK THEY CAN DO ANY BETTER?
THATS WHAT I FEEL THAT WE NEED TO DO THIS OFFSEASON AND IT DOESN’T LOOK LIKE WILL SPEND TOO MUCH THIS OFFSEASON.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Sounds like Gilbride can really get an offense going…does this mean we may not know who our HC will be until after the SB (if the Giants make it that far)?
December 29th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
I think Russell showed a lot of development this year, considering that Kiffin thought that throwing the football was a ridiculous thought with this crew. Except when he has Josh Mccown of course.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
“It’s a daily, ongoing thing. The comments, the sarcasm, the denigrating and disparaging remarks toward the offense. We try to just survive it. That’s what we’re going to do. My best way of handling it is to try to stay far away from the guy and try not to respond to his incessant remarks and just stay focused on who I thought the opponent was — the teams we play week to week.”
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I wonder if that is what Norv Turner, Art Shell, Lane Kiffin & Tom Cable think of Rob Ryan, Buddy’s son?
December 29th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
BHP told us all that there was going to be this huge announcement on the 29th (today), and we would all be suprised. I don’t think the Gilbride to interview announcement is what he had in mind. I’m never listening to him again
December 29th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
josh mccown was kiffie’s butt-buddy…
December 29th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
RaiderRockstar – Who is that quote from?
December 29th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
ESPN is reporting that Tom Cable is on his way to Seattle to interview for a position on Jim Mora’s coaching staff. OC or o-line coach?
Looks like we have an answer to the Tom Cable debate.
espn.com/nfl/oak/cable_to_Seattle
December 29th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
kiffin … kiffin … kiffin …
damn!
Kiffin thought throwing the ball to starters Walker and Curry was the problem. Everyone saw JLH bumble through opportunities early in the season. we all saw harris and green at OT. we all saw oneal go down. AND we all know ryan is a horrible DC!
but kiffin …. kiffin ….kiffin
December 29th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
I hope we hear very soon that Rob Ryan is not coming back. I wonder if Al Davis will let his New or current Head Coach make that decision?
December 29th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Ah yeah,
That Drama Queen will drag this out until Draft Week. My gawd he likes attention
December 29th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Dakota – Maybe Tom Cable is just interviewing as well without a concrete word from Al Davis while AD goes through an interview process? Doesn’t hurt that Cable is keeping his options open as much as Al Davis right?
December 29th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Russell’s mentors were Josh McCown, Daunte Culpepper, Andrew Walter & Tui. His QB coach was DeFillipo. He had 3 different play callers this season, his first as a starter. Kwame Harris starting LT. WR injuries galore. RB & FB injuries galore. Zach Miller, the most reliable target always stayed in to block.
Despie all these things, Russell still threw 5 more TD’s than INT’s. 13 passing and 1 rushing. 14 TD’s from your #1 overall pick isn’t exactly SUPER numbers, but I think we all saw a few solid outings from him. Next year he’ll probably pass for over 3000 yards. He passed for over 2400 this year, but no 300 yard games or 3 TD games. Maybe a guy like Kevin Gilbride can take him to the next level?
December 29th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
JUST KIDDING!
December 29th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Got me to look for it Dakota!! Damn you
December 29th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Our new DC should be Romeo Crennel, make it happen Al!
December 29th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
I don’t think Gilbride would be a bad choice. Everybody knows the Raider head coach is just a glorified OC anyway. If Ryan’s gone (please, God) it looks like there are plenty of qualified guys to help Al run the D.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
introducing our 3rd round selection:
Offensive Lineman
Augustus Parrish, Kent State
Height: 6-6. Weight: 308.
Projected 40 Time: 5.13.
Could be RT or Guard…
or a truly excellent blocking dummy…
schit, it’s all a crap shoot…
December 29th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Sorry, couldn’t help it.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
This is the guy that I want but Al Davis doesn’t hire Defensive Head Coaches.
PFT.com
LIONS GET PERMISSION TO INTERVIEW SPAGNUOLO
Posted by Mike Florio on December 29, 2008, 4:04 p.m.
The Detroit Lions have received permission to interview Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo for their vacant head-coaching position.
Because the Giants have a first-round bye in the playoffs, Spagnuolo is available to be interviewed this week. Thereafter, he is off limits until the Giants’ season ends.
Spagnuolo cannot be offered a head-coaching job until his current team’s playoff run ends.
The Browns and Rams also are thought to be interested in interviewing Spagnuolo this week.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Maybe Tom Cable is just interviewing as well without a concrete word from Al Davis while AD goes through an interview process? Doesn’t hurt that Cable is keeping his options open as much as Al Davis right?
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my thoughts exactly. What is the difference in coaching for the Seahawks & Raiders? Cable is a Raiders fan and he’s already on staff. Raiders finished with more wins than the Seaturds and Cable knows the players here. There is always a chance Davis hires a HC and Cable will not be retained in any capacity though. I think Cable is preparing himself for that possibility. I guess it depends on whether or not the new Head Coach likes the zone blocking system. I think Davis wants to find out if he can get along with some other potential coaches, should they come here. Find out their plans and contract demands, what kind of control they’re demanding (if any). Davis knows what he has in Cable. He wants to find out what else is out there, before being saddled with Cable for the next few years.
December 29th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
DT’s that I think should be targeted in round 2 or 3 barring any trade down.
Evander Hood- he is a beast, but will probably go in round 1.
Fili Moala- powerful player on USC’s d-line.
Terrance Taylor
Alex Magee
December 29th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
If he fires 2 Head Coaches in One Year, it would up the Stats to 6 Head Coaches in 6 years.
December 29th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Stats don’t lie. Fargas should be placed on the trade block and cut if nobody wants him.
Season numbers: RUSHING
Fargas – 218 carries, 853 yards, 1 TD.
McFadden & Bush – 208 carries, 920 yards, 7 TD’s.
Season numbers: RECEIVING
Fargas – 10 catches, 52 yards
McFadden & Bush – 48 catches, 447 yards
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so Fargas has more rushing attempts than DMC & Bush combined, yet look at their stats compared to his?
December 29th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
our round six draft choice will be:
Defensive End (and Burgess’ replacement)
Derek Walker, Illinois
Height: 6-4. Weight: 272.
Projected 40 Time: 4.74.
this guy will kick ass…
i think.
December 29th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
RAIDERS FAN NOT APPRECIATED IN THE PEWTER HOLE
Posted by Mike Tunison on December 29, 2008, 12:03 p.m.
At the beginning of the season, the Buccaneers announced a policy that allowed fans to report any alleged wrongdoing by fellow attendees to stadium security via text message. It seemed ripe with opportunities for abuse, and lo and behold, one has surfaced.
A letter a Raiders fan wrote to the NFL, the Buccaneers and the Tampa Sports Authority after being ejected from Raymond James Stadium on Sunday for cheering on his team was posted on the blog Consumerist:
“Good afternoon,I apologize for the number of individuals included on this communication as I was unsure who to contact about this.
I had a very negative experience at Raymond James Stadium while attempting to attend the Buccaneers/Raider NFL football game. My day started poorly as I was forced to go to three different entrance gates because I was ‘wearing the wrong colors’ before I could obtain admittance with my ticket to the game.
The game went without incident up until the first score of the game by the Raiders. I stood in celebration, and before the extra point was even kicked, I was being led away by stadium personnel. Once out of the stands, I was placed in handcuffs, although I was not resisting the stadium personnel’s requests, or read my rights and placed under arrest. I was lead to a single person holding cell where my possessions were removed, and I was subjected to a full body frisking. After being detained for roughly 30 minutes, I was released outside of the stadium, and informed that I could not return to the stadium.
As a long time fan and supporter of the NFL, I am greatly disappointed by my treatment at today’s game. I feel like I was personally singled out due to my team affiliation, and this was totally unwarranted. I was not intoxicated or found to be in possession of any illegal substances. I was not being verbally or physically abusive to any other fans or players. There were no requests to adjust my behavior prior to this either, which was not causing an issue as multiple witnesses can attest to.
I understand the stadium has the right to remove any attendees as stated on the ticket, but my treatment today was completely unacceptable. I came down to Tampa Bay from New Jersey specifically to see this game, and then was stripped of the ability to enjoy the game. I would like to know if there are any options by which I may file a formal complaint against the personnel at the stadium? I wish I could provide you with more information as to the individuals involved, but they would not provide me with that information prior to my removal.
Any assistance in this matter would be appreciated. Thank you and I hope you all had an enjoyable holiday.”
Obviously this is one man’s account of what occurred and the fan, identified as “Steve,” could very well have been acting inappropriately, though I’m inclined to think that if someone knows they had been acting up, they’re not filing a complaint after being ejected. Either way, it’s another unfortunate byproduct of the Fan Conduct Policy.
December 29th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Here is a look at some QBs and their first full seasons starting compared to Russell:
Comp Att Comp% Yards TDs Ints Rating
Farve
302 471 64.1 3227 18 13 85.3
P. Manning
326 575 56.7 3739 26 28 71.2
E. Manning
294 557 52.8 3762 24 17 75.9
Palmer
263 432 60.9 2897 18 18 77.3
Russell
198 368 53.8 2423 13 8 77.1
Russell did pretty well considering he had two HCs and three OCs. Couldn’t find the stats on fumbles…Russell really needs to work on maintaining possession of the ball, but otherwise I think he did just fine…of course the last three games saved his stats.
December 29th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
You need 3 RB’s in the current NFL; how many times were our 3 RB’s all healthy in the same week? Not very often. Fargas has no trade value at all, maybe a 5th round pick at best, so keep him for the remainder of his contract, and then let him go.
December 29th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Vegas, I would agree with you about Fargas, but only if he is relegated to third string behind McFadden and Bush. Will Cable do that? I doubt it, he likes loyalty over production. If Cable can’t get his mouth off of Fargas’ nutz, then we need to separate the two love birds.
Personally I would rather see Cable go than Fargas.
4-8…4 complete disasters (two of which happened this month!)
How soon we forget once we get thrown a ray of light!
December 29th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Bush, is really the only big back on the team. I can’t understand why they didn’t attempt to mix him in earlier in the year, along with Dmac. We saw what he could do in week 2.
December 29th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Kell… re 977… are you talking about Al, or Brett Favre? Cuz I’m pretty sure Bretty-poo is gonna drag out the drama as long he can this year, too.
At least he has a new excuse this time. Last year it was motivation, this year it’s the shoulder. And you can bet that the fine folks at BSPN will be all over every word.
Somebody put that guy outta my misery. He can’t play anymore anyway.
December 29th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
1000
December 29th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
so there you have it…
my choices for this years draft…
2 defensive tackles…
1 defensive end…
1 middle linebacker…
1 center
1 offensive lineman…
now that’s drafting!!!
oh, i don’t care who we take in the 7th round… should be a wide receiver probably…
December 29th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
screw u pete!
December 29th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Dakota,
Fargas would be a great third-stringer, and would play some special teams, as he has done in the past, which helps his roster spot. Obviously Bush and D-mac are the future, but if one gets banged up, which is sure to happen, Fargas would fill in nicely.
I would be willing to see Cable go, if there is a legitimate upgrade happening. A switch to Gilbride, or a switch just to make a switch is not a good move with all the youth we have. I like that Cable made people accountable, something we haven’t had here in awhile.
December 29th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
lol
December 29th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Several current playoff teams got blown out during the season and you guys are still complaining.
December 29th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
RaiderRockstar – I brought out the career stats on Fargas lastnight over a 6 year period and believe me, its not impressive. I think he should go as well via trade or let go. He can be #3 if he doesn’t complain about it.
December 29th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
time to go home…
catch you all later…
December 29th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Davis has to follow the rules and interview a few coaches but I don’t think anyone will outshine what Cable accomplised this late in a lost year.
December 29th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Kell,
Because the azz clown coaching staff was trying to convert a talented HB into a FB instead of just signing a FB off of someone’s practice squad, or picking up a free agent FB. They wanted to make this man give up the potential of millions of dollars and fame and fortune to play one of the most inglorious positions on the football field. They seemed shocked when he was reluctant, lol.
Fukin morons.
And the year before Al left him dangling on the PUP list just to keep LaMont Jordan from going to the Chiefs or Broncos…
They have treated Bush like sheet.
December 29th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Dakota Griffith and O’Neal got hurt and Bush was the only option for a few weeks till they got Lawton up to speed, get over it. Bush needs to play at any position they ask him to play.
December 29th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Bush was not healthy enough to play in year one.
December 29th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Gilbride!!!!!????
December 29th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
New Post
December 29th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
I like JLH and Schilens… but if we draft a WR – HAKEEM NICKS out of UNC.
By the time the combine is finished, he’ll be a top 3 (Crabtree, Maclin, Nicks)
December 29th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Jim Harbaugh as HC with Cable as assistant HC/O-Line coach.
They can both call the plays.
December 29th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Nicks would be a good pick in round 2 if he is there…
December 29th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Phil Loadholt would be a good pick in round 2 also as a pure RT.
He is big and strong and has long arms.
December 30th, 2008 at 8:25 am
who ever is the the Raiders head coach for next season better look at this last game and realize that they have a premier running back in Bush and give Justin Fargas 3rd string on the dept chart. Fargas is way to light in the A## and gets trip up way too much, Bush is a monster. Mcfadden on the other hand the jury is still out on him to he needs to stay on his feet to he falls way to many times to but he has a legitimate excuse for his turf toe but next year he will need to improve on his balance.
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