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D-coordinator candidates a mystery

It’s Day 27 on the seemingly inevitable march to Tom Cable as Raiders head coach, and while there have been hints, clues and confirmed interviews for that job and others, it’s been a veritable information void with regard to the replacement for Rob Ryan as defensive coordinator.

A few names have bubbled to the surface, only to be quickly shot down.

Linebackers coach Don Martindale met with Al Davis and talked a lot of defensive football, but he ended up believing he was a head coaching candidate. When Martindale found out otherwise, he ended up a linebackers coach in Denver.

Ed Donatell, a veteran NFL assistant with experience as a coordinator, was floated as a possibility. He had a logical connection in that he has worked Cable.

The Raiders’ company line? Donatell’s name never came up _ a distinct possibility because Donatell also ended up in Denver, coaching defensive backs.

Around the same time Martindale interviewed, Davis spoke with defensive backs coach Darren Perry. Perry, I’m told, is not a candidate and is looking for work elsewhere.

The most recent name was Tennessee linebackers coach Dave McGinnis. McGinnis interviewed with Oakland in 2004 for defensive coordinator. Rather than wait through the process while there was a phone interview with Eric Mangini, a sought-after interview with Rex Ryan which the Ravens declined and then the eventual interview with Rob Ryan, McGinnis took the Titans job.

Having lost defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz to the Detroit Lions, the Titans are expected to hire Chuck Cecil to take his place, rather than McGinnis.

Former Raider exec Mike Lombardi reported the Raiders had talked with McGinnis. A team spokesman said McGinnis’ name has not come up.

Neither has that of Ron Meeks, the deposed Indianapolis defensive coordinator who interviewed with the Raiders in 1998 for the job that went to Willie Shaw.

Meeks would seem an unlikely fit, anyway, given the Colts’ Cover 2 defensive philosophy and a penchant for using smaller, faster players rather than imposing physical specimens.

The Raiders interviewed Green Bay assistant head coach and linebackers coach Winston Moss for the head coaching job, but Packers coach Mike McCarthy told reporters Moss would be back in Green Bay if he isn’t hired in Oakland _ meaning he won’t be a defensive coordinator here.

Carolina defensive line coach Mike Trgovac declined an offer to return as defensive coordinator but was on the market only a few days before agreeing to join Dom Capers’ defensive staff in Green Bay.

One drawback with the Raiders job is a defensive coordinator comes in knowing there will be a certain way of doing things, with a lot of man-to-man coverage in the secondary and little in the way of conventional blitzing or zone blitzing.

Perhaps the Raiders will talk to Bob Sanders, who was dumped in in favor of Capers in Green Bay but whose team played nearly as much man coverage as the Raiders with Charles Woodson and Al Harris at the corners. Newly hired secondary coach Lionel Washington worked at Green Bay under Sanders.

Washington and Dwaine Board, expected to be named defensive line coach within the next few days, have been the two new additions to what will be a revamped defensive staff.

Sanders is speculation on my part. Your guess is as good as mine, so guess away.

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  • http://lmnisatool.org Come on Man!

    Dakota Says:
    January 26th, 2009 at 9:32 am
    Come on Man! Says:
    January 26th, 2009 at 9:28 am
    LMN

    It is widely known that Al Davis hires all of the assistants, have you not been paying attention for years? Now suddenly Gruden hired Trestman just to suit your wrong argument? Get a grip, you are wrong. Again!
    ________________________________________________

    Wrong, Al doesn’t hire all of the assistants. Any Raiders fan with a brain knows Kiffin hired Knapp and Cable, so it is logical to assume that Gruden may have had a say in hiring Trestman.”

    May have had a say? Talk about speculation, that is the definition of the word.

  • M

    The joke was on anyone who ever believed Kiffie at all. From his “I’m in!” beginning he was looking for a way out. The only way the “I’m in!” statement would not be a lie is if it what he is used to saying to his wife to let her know that he is in the process of screwing her.

  • Hire Jim Fassel/Chris in NY

    Assuming Crabtree is gone, I think the Raiders should definitely take Maclin at No. 7. Think about the playmakers that would give this offense:

    RB1: McFadden – Explosive, strong runner and very good receiver
    RB2: Bush – Big, strong rusher and excellent receiver
    RB3: Fargas – Hard, tough runner with decent speed and a 1,000 yard season in 2007.
    WR1: Maclin – Blazing rookie WR with good hands coming off a 100-catch season (in 14 games)
    WR2: Schillens – Big, fast target with good hands and a lot of upside
    WR3: Higgins – Big-play guy whose great at picking up YAC and one of the best return men in the game
    WR4: Shields – A talented WR with a lot of upside if he can stay healthy
    TE: Miller – The best young TE in the game

    So if we draft Maclin to be a true No. 1 WR, we can focus the rest of the draft and free agency on shoring up the o-line and defense.

  • tieg

    floridapete; what the hell are you smoking? Ft. Ord was NEVER a basic training base. Ever.

  • http://www.brondby.com/kampkalender.asp?id=63 La Milicia Negra

    Dakota..

    I was just going to post that about Cable..

  • http://lmnisatool.org Come on Man!

    LMN

    The “reason” is much different than the guy that actually did the hiring. Give me a break with your nonsense. I that you are never able to admit that you are wrong, you can’t convince me otherwise. You are a liar that makes stupid stuff up just to suit your argument so you never have to admit that you are clearly wrong. Again. LOL

  • http://lmnisatool.org Come on Man!

    LMN

    Just like when Dakota owned you a few weeks back, when he had to spell it out for you that Bates did the play calling for the Bronco’s last year.

    He OWNED you, clearly proved you wrong, yet you never admitted it, not once.

    There are so many more examples of your atrocious behavior, yet I don’t have the time. At some point you will just have to realize that I am right. LOL.

  • Dakota

    M Says:
    January 26th, 2009 at 9:35 am
    The joke was on anyone who ever believed Kiffie at all. From his “I’m in!” beginning he was looking for a way out. The only way the “I’m in!” statement would not be a lie is if it what he is used to saying to his wife to let her know that he is in the process of screwing her.
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    M,

    Come on man, you don’t know that kiffin was looking for a way out right away. You can’t know that. For all we know Kiffin was 100% committed to the Raiders but Al didn’t keep his promises and that is why late in 2007 or early 2008 Kiffin wanted out. Who worth his salt wouldn’t want out? That is why we have to settle for a lap dog like Cable.

  • http://lmnisatool.org/ Cum on my face man!

    Guys/g@ys, gather around and give me your best shot!

  • http://ibabuzz 4evaRaider

    When CC (coach-cable)took over we were in total dis-array,imo.The webs of deceit had 2 be cleared away so the sun could start 2 shine inside,and kiff spun many -a-web,imo.Unfortunitly I saw those 4 terrible losses,but maybe it was 2B expected per above statment.Yes as you all know the glass is half-full imo,but the way he brought the team back,it was like a snow-ball affect.2 bad he didnt have pre-season and all 2 be prepaired.He WILL be prepaired come September

  • http://lmnisatool.org Come on Man!

    “so it is logical to assume that Gruden may have had a say in hiring Trestman.”

    What a firm statement. You assume far too much, probably in life as well. But you can still tell me how wrong I am based on your ASSUMPTIONS! Are you for real?

  • http://lmnisatool.org/ Cum on my face man!

    I own man on man porn!

  • http://lmnisatool.org Come on Man!

    Dakota Says:
    January 26th, 2009 at 9:45 am
    M Says:
    January 26th, 2009 at 9:35 am
    The joke was on anyone who ever believed Kiffie at all. From his “I’m in!” beginning he was looking for a way out. The only way the “I’m in!” statement would not be a lie is if it what he is used to saying to his wife to let her know that he is in the process of screwing her.
    ______________________________________________

    “M,

    Come on man, you don’t know that kiffin was looking for a way out right away. You can’t know that. For all we know Kiffin was 100% committed to the Raiders but Al didn’t keep his promises and that is why late in 2007 or early 2008 Kiffin wanted out. Who worth his salt wouldn’t want out? That is why we have to settle for a lap dog like Cable.”

    Dakota calling someone out for ASSUMING that they know what was going down.

    Hypocrite!

  • http://www.dontbotherresponding.com Bo Schembechler Jackson

    LMN/Dakota,

    You guys are goofy. No OC or DC gets hired by the Raiders without Al’s approval. Kiffin wanted Knapp and Cable, sold Al on them and Al said OK, they’re hired. Same with Gruden, Callahan, and Trestman. So at least give Al the credit for buying into Gruden and Callahan’s offensive ideas. When Al traded Gruden, he no doubt re-evaluated Trestman as OC and OK’d him again. Unfortunately the same is true of Tom Walsh. Al gives his coaches the opportunity to convince him of their vision. He is often wrong, but when Al was right (with Trestman) his share of the credit should be acknowledged.

  • http://lmnisatool.org Come on Man!

    LMN you are such a troll

  • http://lmnisatool.org Come on Man!

    Amen BSJ!

  • http://www.brondby.com/kampkalender.asp?id=63 La Milicia Negra

    Come OnMan..

    funny how you dont live up to your own standar, huh? you keep lying but thats okay?..

    yup, Dakota “Owned” me, if that means he showed me that I was wrong when I thought it was the HC calling the Offensive plays..

    Furthermore… I admitted so!… so Come on Man… you have nohigh ground.. you cant live up to your own standards, and your claims (that I dont admit when Im wrong) are also proved wrong…

  • Dakota

    4eva,

    I hope you are right. But Al is already working at undermining Cable. If Al wanted the players to believe in Cable he would have named him HC after the season ended one month ago. Now the players are just sitting around waiting for news just like us (or on ESPN stumping for Gilbride) and thinking Al must not have confidence in Cable. Then when Cable is named HC everyone will know Cable was not Al’s first choice and the players will think that they can walk all over him just like they walked all over Al’s previous lap dog coaches.

    It never ends. Lol, how is that for glass half empty?

  • http://lmnisatool.org Come on Man!

    LMN

    The only liar in here is you. I have not lied once. This is just a pathetic attempt to ignore the truth about yourself.

    Do what you have to do to continue your life of denial.

  • http://lmnisatool.org Come on Man!

    LMN

    Furthermore you NEVER admitted that you were wrong about Bates, NEVER! To the point where Dakota had to post and tell you “not to worry about it, it was an honest mistake”. Your response was “OK” not “I was wrong” or anything close to that. The sad thing is the biggest lies you tell are the ones you tell to yourself. Good luck with that.

  • http://www.dontbotherresponding.com Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    January 26th, 2009 at 9:51 am
    LMN/Dakota,

    You guys are goofy.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Dakota, let me beat you to it…

    http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/3feec1f6b409c48b5210888b8ecf4d7be22f901c_m.jpg

  • http://lmnisatool.org Come on Man!

    LMN

    While you are scrambling to fabricate some fake post to back up your lies, you might consider trying to prove, in any post, where I have lied. I have not lied about a damn thing and you know it. You are a pathetic little man.

  • http://lmnisatool.org Come on Man!

    Dakota

    any more assumptions that you would like to claim as fact?

  • http://lmnisatool.org Come on Man!

    Some one has to hold you two lovers accountable

  • Dakota

    Bo,

    Technically, Al has to sign off on everything Raider related, but the point was Kiffin hired Knapp and Cable. He went out and recruited them and at the end of the day Al signed off on them, but it was Kiffin that really hired them. Al obviously gives his HC more latitude in hiring offensive assistants, so it is likely he did the same with Gruden. That was my only point. No one knows for sure.

  • http://lmnisatool.org Come on Man!

    LMN & Dakota

    You both get proven wrong and you both magically disappear? How convenient.

    Let me guess, now one of you suckers will post as me or some clever take on my name and then say stupid crap, just like you did a few minutes ago. Pathetic.

  • http://lmnisatool.org Come on Man!

    Dakota

    That’s right, ignore the truth. So predictable. Don’t you stand by the nonsense that you say?

  • http://lmnisatool.org Come on Man!

    Dakota

    Don’t you remember how wrong I was based on your ASSUMPTIONS?

  • http://lmnisatool.org Come on Man!

    Dakota likes to tell everyone else how wrong they are but when he is wrong he will just ignore you.

  • http://lmnisatool.org Come on Man!

    lmao

  • Dakota

    Come on Man! Says:
    January 26th, 2009 at 10:09 am
    Dakota

    That’s right, ignore the truth. So predictable. Don’t you stand by the nonsense that you say?
    _________________________________________

    What are you blabbering on about?

  • http://ibabuzz 4evaRaider

    =)

  • RaiderRockstar

    hey Jerry, how about a new fix? this one was from Saturday …

    Raider fans want to know. Did Davis ever interview Trestman or McGinnis?

    who else might they be interested in for OC & DC?

  • http://www.brondby.com/kampkalender.asp?id=63 La Milicia Negra

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    January 26th, 2009 at 9:51 am

    LMN/Dakota,

    You guys are goofy. No OC or DC gets hired by the Raiders without Al’s approval.
    _____________________________________________________

    Absolutely, not even a janitor gets hired without Al approving..its a symptom of the Mental-disease that are raving our franchise..

    But that was not my case at all, SLD had the Claim that Al found Trestman, and that it was him who elevated Trestman to OC…

    Thats not the case… Gruden “found” Tretman, and Callahan elevated Trestman to OC.. AND OF COURSE DID AL APPROVE or else it wouldn´t had happen..

  • http://www.brondby.com/kampkalender.asp?id=63 La Milicia Negra

    Come on Man! Says:
    January 26th, 2009 at 10:08 am

    LMN & Dakota

    You both get proven wrong and you both magically disappear? How convenient.
    _____________________________________________________

    No need to argue with you, for each comment you post, you make an argument against you… so no need..

  • http://www.brondby.com/kampkalender.asp?id=63 La Milicia Negra

    See ya guys..

    Take Care, it time for me to make some dinner =)

  • http://lmnisatool.org Come on Man!

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    January 26th, 2009 at 10:16 am
    Come on Man! Says:
    January 26th, 2009 at 10:08 am

    LMN & Dakota

    “You both get proven wrong and you both magically disappear? How convenient.
    _____________________________________________________

    No need to argue with you, for each comment you post, you make an argument against you… so no need..”

    LMN

    This doesn’t even make sense. Nice try.

  • http://lmnisatool.org Come on Man!

    Dakota Says:
    January 26th, 2009 at 10:13 am
    Come on Man! Says:
    January 26th, 2009 at 10:09 am
    Dakota

    That’s right, ignore the truth. So predictable. Don’t you stand by the nonsense that you say?
    _________________________________________

    What are you blabbering on about?

    Dakota Says:
    January 26th, 2009 at 9:32 am
    Come on Man! Says:
    January 26th, 2009 at 9:28 am
    Wrong, Al doesn’t hire all of the assistants. Any Raiders fan with a brain knows Kiffin hired Knapp and Cable, so it is logical to assume that Gruden may have had a say in hiring Trestman.”

    You tell me how wrong I am and you back up your argument with pure speculation and assumption. Get it yet?

  • Dakota

    Come on Man,

    What is your usual name on this blog? Maybe if you posted your comments under your usual name and without the childish website address people might take you seriously? Just a thought.

  • http://lmnisatool.org Come on Man!

    LMN

    You can’t run from the truth about yourself forever

  • SacRaider

    For those that want crabtree, he may be available at #7..

    “Pro Football Weekly reports there is talk circulating that the Seahawks “could” have interest in impending free agent T.J. Houshmandzadeh.

    As a chain-moving possession threat who rarely drops passes, Housh would be a solid fit in Seattle’s West Coast attack. Pro Football Weekly doesn’t think the Seahawks will want to rely on youngsters Logan Payne, Courtney Taylor, and Ben Obomanu again. Payne and Obomanu are both coming off injury.
    Source: Pro Football Weekly”

  • Davis Nation

    I see all the anti-Davis flunkies are still here living in fantasy land thinking all the whining will help their mission to remove Davis, good luck schmucks.

  • http://lmnisatool.org Come on Man!

    Dakota

    Here’s a thought:

    How about facing the issue instead of trying to distract from the point with your nonsense about my name. LMN is a tool, you are inching very close to where he is.

  • tieg

    Anyone that thinks ANYONE other then davis makes ALL the decisions is just delusionally irrational and therefore cannot be reasoned with.

  • RaiderRockstar

    new post!

  • Dakota

    Come on Man,

    It was widely reported that Kiffin hired his offensive assistants. You can call that assumptions if you would like, I really don’t care.
    __________________________________________________
    Inside Bay Area: Kiffin hires two for Raiders

    New Raiders coach Lane Kiffin has made his first hires by tabbing USC graduate assistant Yogi Roth as an offensive assistant and one-time USC director of football operations Mark Jackson for a front-office role, according to the Los Angeles Times.

    Kiffin still is waiting to hear back from Greg Knapp on whether he intends to accept an offer to become the Raiders offensive coordinator and from Tom Cable on whether he wants the Raiders offensive line post.

  • Charlie

    Mr Davis makes ALL staffing decisions regarding coaches.
    What some of you may not realize is that he does solicit input from various people within and outside of the organization prior to making the decision.

    Where Mr Davis has failed us is the 2000 to 2003 drafts. The 2009 draft will have a much greater impact on our team than who the DC or OC will be.
    2007 and 2008 drafts were solid. Let’s hope for the same in 2009.(No WR before round four).

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  • darkknight01

    Hire Jim Fassel/Chris in NY Says:
    January 26th, 2009 at 9:35 am
    Assuming Crabtree is gone, I think the Raiders should definitely take Maclin at No. 7. Think about the playmakers that would give this offense:

    RB1: McFadden – Explosive, strong runner and very good receiver
    RB2: Bush – Big, strong rusher and excellent receiver
    RB3: Fargas – Hard, tough runner with decent speed and a 1,000 yard season in 2007.
    WR1: Maclin – Blazing rookie WR with good hands coming off a 100-catch season (in 14 games)
    WR2: Schillens – Big, fast target with good hands and a lot of upside
    WR3: Higgins – Big-play guy whose great at picking up YAC and one of the best return men in the game
    WR4: Shields – A talented WR with a lot of upside if he can stay healthy
    TE: Miller – The best young TE in the game

    So if we draft Maclin to be a true No. 1 WR, we can focus the rest of the draft and free agency on shoring up the o-line and defense.

    ^^Taking a WR #1 who does not have the skill set or freak ability of Moss,Calvin Johnson or Larry Fitz and expecting him to be a #1 WR in his rookie season is a futile way of thinking.

  • tieg

    Does anyone really believe what the papers write? Are there that many clueless people? I guess so,look who’s running the country.