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When is a coach not a coach?

When he’s working for free and not under contract.

That’s the situation Tom Cable still finds himself in today.

“News” has begun to seep out through ESPN and the NFL Network that Cable is expected to be the Raiders head coach, which readers of this space have known for awhile now.

The stories are on point in that Cable is expected to be the head coach. Even Cable expects it, although he has declined comment since the Raiders’ season-ending press conference.

Problem is, until Cable signs a contract which says he is the coach, then he isn’t the coach. Which means that if Al Davis is struck by a sudden inspiration that someone else should be the coach, he can act upon that impulse.

There’s very little chance of that happening, but as much as everyone involved would like this to be over with, it’s up to the Raiders to have Cable put pen to paper and appear at a press conference.

Other items of note:

— Paul Hackett will be announced as the Raiders quarterbacks coach. He’s an excellent addition in that he is a better teacher of quarterbacks than anyone the Raiders had on staff last season, with all due respect to Lane Kiffin, Greg Knapp and John DeFilippo.

(Cable’s contributions were more of aggressiveness and mindset, rather than footwork and technical aspects of the game).

You can bet Hackett took plenty of mental notes watching JaMarcus Russell last year as an advance scout. It was one of the strangest things about the ’08 Raiders, watching Hackett walk laps around the facility as the Raiders warmed up for practice, and be uninvolved in the development of the future of the franchise.

— John Marshall is scheduled to meet with the Raiders tonight and should merit serious consideration for defensive coordinator.

Marshall had the run of the defense working under offensive coaches Dan Henning in Atlanta, Steve Mariucci in San Francisco and Mike Holmgren in Seattle. But he also has worked under a George Seifert in Carolina, a noted control freak who wanted things done a certain way.

— The hiring of Dwaine Board, Marshall’s defensive line coach in Seattle and also a former 49ers assistant, was made official on the club’s Web site.

— Young Lance is getting some bad ink in the SEC, where he made less than a stellar impression crowing about how much money Tennessee spent in putting together a coaching staff, with columnists portraying him as a spoiled child.

Kiffin remains confident as ever. He even named his newborn son “Monte Knox Kiffin” and will call him “Knox.” After Knoxville, I presume. If Kiffin gets canned in Tennessee, I assume the toddler will have to get used to being called “Monte.”

— In Tuesday’s on-line chat, Anthony asked if the Raiders still got the extra minicamp allotted to a new coach if Cable had his interim tag removed. According to NFL Director of Football Information Vince Casey, the answer is yes. If Cable is hired, the Raiders can have the extra minicamp if they desire.

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Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • They’ve got a Cable segment coming up on ESPN’s Around the Horn, in a few.

  • jeremy

    not only does al have his hc working for free but he is getting extra mini camp practices. say what you will about al but the dude is a smart business man.

  • darkknight01

    jeremy Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
    darkknight,

    henderson was a 3rd rd pick and he dominated down the stretch

    ^^I wouldn’t say dominated but yeah he did well….but remember Henderson didn’t start right away or contribute right away either.

    I think Monroe can contribute right away.

  • darkknight01

    Regardless, if Crabtree is not there AT #7, then the old crazy man needs to try for THE love of god to TRADE DOWN!!

  • jeremy

    henderson didn’t give up a sack against some of the top de’s in the league. sounds like he dominated to me. we don’t know if mario could have contributed right away because kiffin only dogged him and never gave him a chance. then they spend 5 mil on harris and they don’t want to look like idiots and bury 5 mil on the bench. henderson obviously should have been there from day one.

  • Dakota

    49ers get an extra mini-camp too, as do the Rams etc…SFW? Al gets what everyone else gets, that makes him smart?

  • Brien the Great

    KoolKell Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
    # Brien the Great Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    Look guys, Al is crazy as hell and Cable is an idiot but so what. The players are the ones who win this game. Until we get players that know how to work well under the situation that is in Oakland, nothing will change. It really boils down to that
    ——————————–
    Bullshyt. Football is a Organization & Coaching game.

    Kell Organizations do win titles I can agree but its like the pimp game, the hoes are the ones who make the enterprise flourish. Its the same thing here. You can have the greatest owner, gm and coach but if the players suck, what do you have?

  • jeremy

    yes, monroe could probably contribute right away but they aren’t going to spend that kind of money on someone to play rt when there are players in later rounds or through free agency that would be cheaper.

  • vegas raider

    It is true that O-lineman, D-lineman and RB seem to have the easiest transition as rookies. But we aren’t gearing up for a title run next year, maybe AFC west title, so we have to do what is best for the long-term. If it is WR for Russell, than we do that. If one of these LT prospects is a future HOF, which I won’t pretend to know, than that’s the way we go.

  • Brien the Great

    darkknight01 Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
    jeremy Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
    darkknight,

    henderson was a 3rd rd pick and he dominated down the stretch

    ^^I wouldn’t say dominated but yeah he did well….but remember Henderson didn’t start right away or contribute right away either.

    I think Monroe can contribute right away.

    So not giving up sacks against marquee RDEs isnt dominant? I like to see your definition of it

  • S&B – Nation Collective

    Demon Raider,

    I don’t like the track record of defensive ends taken high in the first round. Of course there are the Mario Williams and Luis Castillo but most of the 1st and 2nd round picks have been underwhelming:

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/draft_query.cgi?year_1=1998&year_2=2008&tm=all&pos=DE&round_1=1&round_2=2&slot_1=1&slot_2=500&conference=any&show=all&lg=ANY&type=

    1. Chris Long
    2. Vernon Gholston
    3. Derrick Harvey
    4. Lawrence Jackson
    5. Philip Merling
    6. Gaines Adams (Hardly the difference maker)
    7. Jamaal Anderson (Heading towards bust)
    8. Adam Carriker
    9. Jarvis Moss (Bronco Bust)
    10. Anthony Spencer
    11. Tamba Hali

  • vegas raider

    #908

    If the term “suck” was used as pun, than that was pretty clever.

  • jeremy

    yeah. when you can get a guy with hc experience (12 games) and pay him nothing for a few weeks of work and then promote him to full time hc and get the extra mini camps for a coach that has already been there, i say that is pretty smart.

  • The Amoeba Offense, A New Trend?

    Everything about the Broncos will change on one side of the ball.

    There will be a new system. There will be new terminology.

    The Broncos’ defense transforming from a 4-3 system to a 3-4? Nope. Well, maybe, but more assuredly, the Broncos are about to rewrite their offensive playbook.

    Say goodbye to the West Coast offense, versions of which Mike Shanahan directed for the past 14 years. New head coach Josh McDaniels is bringing the New England Patriots’ offense to Denver.

    Study up, Jay Cutler.

    “Our system is very unique,” McDaniels said in a phone interview Wednesday. “There are not a lot of branches off a tree that uses this system.”

    The system? Watch the Patriots’ offensive plays develop from a stadium’s upper level
    Denver Broncos and it looks like they’re running the basketball version of a fast-break, three-man weave. Receivers are bunched, receivers are spread, but receivers are constantly running patterns off each other.

    The Boston media dubbed it the “Amoeba Offense” for its ability to adapt to its own personnel, or adjust to a defense. And, indeed, against the Broncos in Week 7, journeyman tailback Sammy Morris rushed for 138 yards. By halftime.

    “The unique part about that is I know a lot of people associate what we did in New England with the passing game, but we were sixth in the league in rushing this year,” McDaniels said. “It’s the unknown or missing piece that not many people know about or talk about. It’s not the same each week. It won’t be the same. It doesn’t fall into a specific category like the West Coast.”

    Former Broncos tight end Shannon Sharpe played seven seasons in Shanahan’s West Coast system and he’s become familiar with the Patriots’ offense through his work as an NFL analyst for CBS. The New England system hasn’t necessarily kept its tight ends busy catching passes — as Broncos tight ends Daniel Graham, a former Patriot, and Tony Scheffler surely have noted.

    But Sharpe said the Broncos’ talented receiving duo
    Post Poll – Snap Decision

    Say goodbye to the Broncos’ West Coast offense. New Broncos coach Josh McDaniels is bringing the New England Patriots offense to Denver. What do you think?
    West Coast is the best coast: Broncos were a great offense in ’08, they should stick with what’s been working.
    Bring on the Amoeba: The Patriots offense trounced Denver last season. Let’s try something new.
    Go back to the future: Where’d the running game go? Bring back Dan Reeves’ ground-game offense.
    How about the single wing? Go crazy and run the option offense. Hey, it works for Akron High.
    Doesn’t matter how they score: The Broncos defense is what matters. Fix it or forget it.
    of Eddie Royal and Brandon Marshall will be well-suited for the New England-style offense.

    “It shouldn’t be very difficult, because they have similar pieces,” Sharpe said. “I think Eddie Royal can be every bit as good as Wes Welker. I think Brandon Marshall — I don’t know if he can be as good as Randy Moss because Randy Moss is pretty special. But they’ve got two bookend tackles. You’ve got Jay Cutler, who’s a franchise quarterback. He turns the ball over a little too much right now for my fancy. You can get a running back.”

    The New England system was a major reason Mike McCoy, and not Jeremy Bates, was selected to work directly with Cutler in 2009 as the Broncos’ new offensive coordinator. Speaking while still in shock over Shanahan’s firing, Cutler strongly urged the Broncos to keep Bates as his quarterbacks coach.

    Was McDaniels’ discomfort with that quarterback-coach relationship the reason Bates was not retained?

    “That didn’t have anything to do with it,” McDaniels said. “It was a situation where I felt like the best thing for the Broncos going forward was putting the staff together the way that I did. I’ll spend significant time with Jay. Our relationship will be very important.”

    McCoy is familiar with New England’s offense, while Bates, who landed quite well as USC’s offensive coordinator, is embedded in the West Coast offense. McCoy had been quarterbacks coach of the Carolina Panthers, who have run New England’s offense since they hired Jeff Davidson as offensive coordinator in 2007. Davidson was a Patriots offensive assistant from 1997-2004.

    It’s a system that helped Tom Brady, a former sixth-round draft pick, pass Peyton Manning as the NFL’s undisputed No. 1 quarterback in 2007. It’s a system that transformed Matt Cassel from a backup college quarterback to the NFL’s eighth-ranked passer in 2008.

    If the offensive system is good enough for Brady and Cassel, it should be good enough for Cutler.

    “That will all play out in time,” McDaniels said. “I’m not worried about that. I think everyone will love playing in this system. It’s been very, very successful and it takes good players to make it go. And it starts with Jay.”

  • Scottish Raider

    What is certain is that we need one more OT, another OG and probably a Center. The only questions are:

    1) Is Henderson good enough to play LT and can we focus on finding a RT?

    2) Is McQuistan, Morris or Marten good enough to replace Carlisle or do we need to find another OG?

    3) Is Grove staying and/or is Wade the answer or do we need to find another Center?

    I think the answers are:

    1) Don’t know. Henderson might be good enough but, do we risk it? I think we must take an OT – preferably one who could play LT or RT.

    2) I doubt it. McQuistan is Gallery’s back-up. Morris is too small and Marten is more of an OT. We need a new OG – preferably someone bigger than Carlisle but, who can still play the ZBS.

    3) Yes. Grove is probably gone and Wade is not a natural in the ZBS. We need a new Center.

    Given that the FA cupboard looks bare – there are no great ZBS-suitable vets looking to move westward. We need to spend three draft picks on the Oline. Sorry, this isn’t sexy drafting, it is just necessary.

    I therefore think we have to take one of the top OTs at No7. It would be madness to pass on Oher, Monroe, Andre Smith or Jason Smith. Even if they play RT, they will be of more long-term value than Orakpo or Curry or Maualuga or any WR. And, for anybody who wants to wait until Round 2, I think Britton, Beatty and Loadholt may have gone before No39.

    We could wait until the 4th for a good ZBS-capable OG. Some good prospects, like Ray Feinga (BYU) and Anthony Parker (Tennessee), will still be on the Board and present good value.

    This draft is one of the deepest for Centers for many years but, we may have to use a 3rd round pick to get a quality rookie. Someone like Antoine Caldwell (Alabama) or Eric Wood (Louisville) would do nicely.

    So, that leaves our Board looking like:

    Round 1: Eugene Monroe OT

    Round 2:

    Round 3: Antoine Caldwell C

    Round 4: Ray Feinga OG

    Round 6:

    Round 7:

    You can fill in the blanks.

  • Dakota

    jeremy Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
    yes, monroe could probably contribute right away but they aren’t going to spend that kind of money on someone to play rt when there are players in later rounds or through free agency that would be cheaper.
    ______________________________

    Al pays tens of millions of dollars to guys to play on other teams, or sit on their asses, why not pay a few million for a RT that can improve the team? I think a decent rookie tackle that may have to switch to RT and who would be much better than Green in all likelyhood would be well worth the money it would cost to sign the #7 pick.

  • Brien the Great

    vegas raider Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
    It is true that O-lineman, D-lineman and RB seem to have the easiest transition as rookies. But we aren’t gearing up for a title run next year, maybe AFC west title, so we have to do what is best for the long-term. If it is WR for Russell, than we do that. If one of these LT prospects is a future HOF, which I won’t pretend to know, than that’s the way we go.

    Gearing up for division title says gearing up for SB title IMO

  • Kell Organizations do win titles I can agree but its like the pimp game, the hoes are the ones who make the enterprise flourish. Its the same thing here.
    ———————————
    STFU, silly boy.

  • jeremy

    al is drafting jenkins, maclin, or crabtree (if available). do i think these are the best players for us at #7? nope. but what i think doesn’t matter to al davis. that is the way he is going and it would surprise me and probably the rest of the world if he does something different.

  • Brien the Great

    vegas raider Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
    #908

    If the term “suck” was used as pun, than that was pretty clever.

    You have lived in the 702 wat too long!!! LOL

  • vegas raider

    So, that leaves our Board looking like:

    Round 1: Eugene Monroe OT

    Round 2:

    Round 3: Antoine Caldwell C

    Round 4: Ray Feinga OG

    Round 6:

    Round 7:

    You can fill in the blanks.

    ******************************

    Round 2: Darrius Heyward-Bey
    Round 6: Back-up QB or D-line
    Round 7: Fastest guy left

  • Hoes don’t work as teams, fool!

  • Brien the Great

    vegas raider Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
    #908

    If the term “suck” was used as pun, than that was pretty clever.

    You have lived in the 702 way too long!!! LOL

  • Brien the Great

    KoolKell Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
    Hoes don’t work as teams, fool!

    Hoes, workers, employees you know what I mean. O.G. spare me the technicalities you understood my point. You are just being an old bitter bastard again. You know I’m right about players are the ones who have to execute and make positive things happen. Al and coaches have a role but they dont play on the field

  • Brien the Great

    KoolKell Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
    Kell Organizations do win titles I can agree but its like the pimp game, the hoes are the ones who make the enterprise flourish. Its the same thing here.
    ———————————
    STFU, silly boy.

    Kell, that was very homo of you. Silly boy? Oh my god

  • marshall

    No way Eugene Monroe will be there at #7. He’ll either be #1 or #2 overall.

  • Brien

    Football is the ultimate Team Game, which means Coaching. And you’re just a stupid know it all kid running off at the mouth.

  • Scottish Raider

    Jenkins is a great CB prospect but, he only becomes a factor if we deal Asomugha for two 1st rounders – and we still take Britton or Beatty with the second 1st round pick.

    Vegas, I agree that we should use our 2nd on a WR but, I think Hakeem Nicks, Juaquin Iglesias and Derrick Williams are big and better options that Heyward-Bey.

  • lefty12

    Scottish-ya,but isn’t Bey faster?

  • Brien the Great

    jeremy Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
    al is drafting jenkins, maclin, or crabtree (if available). do i think these are the best players for us at #7? nope. but what i think doesn’t matter to al davis. that is the way he is going and it would surprise me and probably the rest of the world if he does something different.

    Al will not select Craptree. Watch him run a 4.5. Craptree doesnt have great athleticism as some of the other guys idiots on here wanna compare him to. Al is selecting Jenkins or Maclin because they are 4.3 guys. I would want to trade down or reach for Maualuga but Al wont do that ever.

  • 932

    Real Manly.

  • jeremy

    yeah brien, al hates trading down but a good mlb is what would help alot. move kirk outside.

  • Scottish Raider

    Marshall, the order in which the top 4 OTs are taken is very fluid. Oher has redeemed himself with a good last day at the Senior Bowl and some smart judges are marking up Jason Smith. It is seriously possible that Monroe could be on the Board at No7.

    The biggest issue is whether Stafford and Sanchez impress enough at the Combine to merit top 5 picks. If they do, then we should get a shot at one of the OTs, if they don’t we might have to default to BJ Raji or Laurinaitis. The top of this Board depends on whether the Lions and/or the Chiefs take a QB.

  • vegas raider

    Not much different where you are at Brien

  • If we are to draft a CB, I think Al goes after Victor “Macho” Harris, an excellent bump n’ run coverage corner.

    Thinking that Al will only draft Crabtree, Maclin or Jenkins with the #7 because that is his style is a misnomer, Al drafted Robert Gallery #2 overall not that long ago. If Al believes that the lines need to be upgraded (he has said as much) he WILL draft lineman.

  • Brien the Great

    KoolKell Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
    Brien

    Football is the ultimate Team Game, which means Coaching. And you’re just a stupid know it all kid running off at the mouth.

    Yawwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn old negro spiritual. Team full of players decide the games. A great coach with mediocre or crap players will not last long at all. Dispute that, well fail at doing so if you must

  • RaiderRockstar

    we will trade Nnamdi Asomugha for 1st & 2nd round draft picks. Then with 4 draft picks we’ll take a OT, WR, CB & DE drafting the best player available at the spot we select in one of those positions of need. Then in round 3 & 4 we’ll take the best avilable C & LB.

  • lefty12

    careful about the move Morrison outside talk.last year everyone said huff would flourish when he was moved to FS.how’d that turn out?

  • Scottish Raider

    Brien, forget Maualuga. He is much better suited to 3:4 than 4:3 and the better analysts are questioning whether he is an every-down player. I think he is over-rated and not a great fit for us.

    Laurinaitis is a genuine 4:3 MLB, solid against the run, competitive and a real leader. He might be a reach at No7 but, he wouldn’t let us down.

  • Brien the Great

    vegas raider Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
    Not much different where you are at Brien

    LOL well Oakland is different game when it comes to that. Vegas is a glam city. Town bizness is grimey ya dig. But I do see your point. Vegas is full of Oakland n-ggas pimpin

  • RaiderRockstar

    i would trade Derrick Burgess for a 3rd round draft pick faster than Jamarcus Russell would trade in his playbook for a bucket of KFC
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    You only see comments like these when it’s a Black Player. Particularly when it’s your franchise QB.

    ***

    droolkell: only a moron like you would mistake this for a racist comment. I like fried chicken and I’m not black. If was a fat joke, not a black joke. Get it right old man

  • S&B – Nation Collective

    Mario Henderson is not the biggest problem on this team. Far from it. So why use a 1st round pick on a position that is not the biggest need? To me the biggest problems on this team relate to the following facts:

    31st ranked defense against the run
    32nd ranked passing offense, including the leading receiver having only 22 receptions

    Therefore the 1st round selection should go to shoring up the run or giving Russell a bonnafide target downfield.

    Raiders SHOULD go Defensive Tackle or Wide Receiver with the 1st pick.

  • Brien the Great

    Scottish Raider Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
    Brien, forget Maualuga. He is much better suited to 3:4 than 4:3 and the better analysts are questioning whether he is an every-down player. I think he is over-rated and not a great fit for us.

    Laurinaitis is a genuine 4:3 MLB, solid against the run, competitive and a real leader. He might be a reach at No7 but, he wouldn’t let us down.

    Possibly my friend about Rey. Oh What a Rush Jr wouldnt be bad but he is about the same size as Kirk. Both are an upgrade over Morrison tho

  • Brien the Great

    S&B – Nation Collective Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
    Mario Henderson is not the biggest problem on this team. Far from it. So why use a 1st round pick on a position that is not the biggest need? To me the biggest problems on this team relate to the following facts:

    31st ranked defense against the run
    32nd ranked passing offense, including the leading receiver having only 22 receptions

    Therefore the 1st round selection should go to shoring up the run or giving Russell a bonnafide target downfield.

    Raiders SHOULD go Defensive Tackle or Wide Receiver with the 1st pick.

    No DT fits for us at 7 since we need a NT. Raji isnt not Al’s type of player at 6’1. Get over it. Maclin will more than likely be looked at hard along with Jenkins

  • I agree Lefty, and let me add:

    Which player do you think our new DC will contact first about running this defense?? The starting MLB. No coach worth his salt wants to demote a team captain and on-field leader in his first season, just to shake things up. It’s not gonna happen, you guys should focus on either a starting SOLB to replace Brown, or a back-up MLB who can spell Morrison in obvious run situations.

  • LAto TheBay

    Laurenitis wouldn’t let us down, but i doubt Al will take him at 7. Barring a draft day trade i don’t see him takin a LB in the 1st. Though undersized for Al, dudes a beast. He would be a steal in the 2nd round, but don’t get your hopes up. Look for Jenkins or a WR. Maaaaybe LT.

  • new post sukkas

  • Scottish Raider

    S&B, Raji is the fastest climber on most boards at the moment and he looks like being a Top 10 pick. The question is whether taking a DT at No7 is good value?

    Ron Brace (Boston C) and Dorell Scott (Clemson) are other monster DTs and they may be around at the top of the 3rd. Much better value.

    And size matters. I guess the Chiefs really regret taking the undersized Glenn Dorsey at No5 last year.

    In terms of WR, Crabtree seems locked into Seattle and I don’t think Maclin or Harvin offer enough to go as high as No7.

  • Hire Jim Fassel/Chris in NY

    Brien the Great Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
    Jenkins or Maclin will be the pick at 7 unless Al goes against conventional Al thinking

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    I think you’re probably right Brien.

    I’m thinking the Browns may take Jenkins at No. 5 though. He’s an Ohio State guy, the Browns need help big-time in the secondary and Mangini is a defensive-minded coach.

    Here’s my mock draft:
    1) Lions: Andre Smith, LT, Alabama
    2) Rams: Michael Oher, LT, Ole Miss
    3) Chiefs: Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest
    4) Seahawks: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
    5) Browns: Michael Jenkins, CB, Ohio State
    6) Bengals: Rey Maualuga, LB, USC
    7) Raiders: Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
    8) Jaguars: Eugene Monroe, LT, Virginia
    9) Packers: Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
    11) 49ers: Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia
    11) Bills: B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College
    12) Broncos: Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia
    13) Redskins: Jason Smith, OT, Baylor
    14) Saints: Evrette Brown, DE, FSU
    15) Lions (trade with Texans): Mark Sanchez, QB, USC
    16) Chargers: Chris “Beanie” Wells, RB, Ohio State
    17) Jets: Aaron Maybin, LB, Penn State

    I guess that’s enough for now.

  • Hire Jim Fassel/Chris in NY

    That’s right, I think the QBs slied out of the top-9.