Press conference at noon Wednesday
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009 at 2:11 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Just got word the Raiders have called a press conference at noon Wednesday.
At that time, Tom Cable will be announced as the head coach.
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February 3rd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
’bout time
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:16 pm
ITS OVER!!! See everyone back here next year with the same old issues!!!
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Al Davis expands his control of Raiders
Ray Ratto, Chronicle Staff Writer
Tuesday, February 3, 2009
(02-03) 10:21 PST — The new target date for the announcement of Tom Cable as the Raiders’ latest assistant coach is . . . wait for it . . . Wednesday.
Oh, they’ll call him the head coach, and they’ll go on and on about how his inspirational leadership at the end of last year turned a 3-11 team into a 5-11 team. He’ll sit in his seat with an uncomfortable smile and an unconvincing story about the opportunity that has been re-gifted to him, but he gets it. He was confirmed publicly only after Al Davis hired his entire staff for him except for the defensive coordinator, which is almost surely going to John Marshall even though there has not yet been an announcement, and that of the offensive line coach, which will naturally fall to Cable.
In other words, that’s Wednesday’s show – Al and his trusty overhead projector showing us why the old system of leaving the power to hire in the hands of the head coach has been part of the reason the Raiders have seized the NFL’s low ground, and why he is just the man to shake up the system to his benefit.
And were we Tom Cable, our first call of the day would be to Todd Haley in Hawaii, to see if he could use a really good offensive line coach in Kansas City. Other than the money, it would be a better job with greater respect than the one he has now.
But that’s not likely to happen, so what we have is the show.
Oh, Al will mention the failed head coaches – he may go all the way back to Mike White, but we suspect he might limit the scope to the post-Gruden Era. That would take in Bill Callahan, Norval Turner, Art Shell and Lane Kiffin, and take in a number of assistants that range from Tom Walsh to Brian Schneider – all gentlemen now gone from the Slack-Jaw and Shield to spoil other teams.
Thus, the Raiders’ talking point here is that the head coaches don’t have Al’s gift for finding nascent position coaching genius, and so he is going to take over more of that area, to match his level of input on the roster, the draft and the game-planning.
In other words, the new Raider master plan is that Al has put his mighty knowledge and football background to work and found something more encompassing than absolute power. And he has also managed to take the worst job in football and make it measurably worse.
Let’s re-word that, so it sinks in.
Al has reinvented and expanded the idea of total control. And he has undercut the concept of head coach so that it is now total, total control.
Al promised at the Lane Kiffin-Isn’t-Getting-Paid press conference to find a football guy – a de facto general manager, perhaps, or just a more contemporary/out-of-the-box thinker. That job is now filled – it’s Al, and his out-of-the-box thought is that the staff is more important than its leader. And the guy who fills the staff is more important than the staff.
And here are some of the by-products of that decision. Paul Hackett could go from scout to quarterback coach to offensive coordinator in two weeks, unless it’s Ted Tollner, who just completed an interview with Al for an as-yet-undefined job. Al finds a defensive coordinator, which almost surely will be John Marshall, and sends him to Cable for approval or approval, and then they look at carpet swatches for the office. The rest of the staff works for Al, not Cable.
And the players, who are neither stupid nor feckless, realize that they outrank Cable, too, because Al isn’t giving up the prerogative of being their enabler, either.
In a truly brilliant moment in a largely brilliant career, Al has run a table we all thought he had already run. If he gets a hankering for the smell of fresh laundry and damp shoulder pad liners, equipment manager Bob Romanski is doomed.
Al has seen the obstacle that has thwarted his will, and it is the head coach. The head coach always lets him down because the head coach thinks he is . . . well, the head coach. Even though it is the Raiders’ head coach, they all think their brilliance and command are so overwhelming that even Al cannot help but see the wisdom in giving a free hand.
They are always wrong, which is why they leave so soon, and why we always misunderstand the Raiders. Al never trusts that anyone can articulate his vision as well as he can, and since his experience, even with Jon Gruden, is that head coaches try to mold his message to their needs, so he has decided to neutralize the position.
At least it seems that way to the outside world, because we see the amount of power Al already wields and, given the results, wonder why a little less Al wouldn’t be a stride forward toward .500, if not an actual playoff berth. Al, on the other hand, sees the problem as insufficient amounts of Al, and too many independent interpretations between Al and the product.
So that’s the show. Al has changed the structure of command so that the head coach is at the bottom of the pyramid rather than the top of it. Tom Cable awoke today to see that he has more influence on the product as line coach, and other than the salary, there is no real reason for him to have the other title at all.
Now is that far enough out of the box for you, or what?
Almost as much, as it turns out, as the notion that a head coach in the NFL could call someone who isn’t a head coach yet about a job as an assistant. Hey, out of the box is for everybody.
E-mail Ray Ratto at rratto@sfchronicle.com.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:20 pm
On this thread I don’t want to see anyone typing how the cards got screwed in the SB, it was a fumble, the Steelers have 6 rings and the best team in that game won.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:20 pm
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February 3rd, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Just got word that the Raiders will announce tomorrow that they hope to win 2 games in a row again next year. One and done for Cable, JR will be a bust with 4 systems in 3 years. Nice job Mr. Davis.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
nice post as Mike Shanahan Dakota.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Was that disturbance like a thousand voices all crying out at once and then suddenly silence?
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:25 pm
I didn’t know John Herrera had kidney problems!
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Surgeons remove healthy kidney through donor’s vagina:
In what is being heralded as a “first-ever procedure,” surgeons removed a healthy kidney through a donor’s vagina, the Johns Hopkins Medical Center has announced.
Although the procedure has been previously done to extract cancerous and nonfunctioning kidneys that threatened a patient’s health, the January 29 surgery was the first time it was done for donation purposes, the center said in a news release issued Monday.
“The kidney was successfully removed and transplanted into the donor’s niece, and both patients are doing fine,” Dr. Robert Montgomery, chief of transplant surgery at Johns Hopkins, said in the release.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:26 pm
How do you figure JLH, a speedster, is a slot Receiver?
And do you expect Crabtree/Maclin to be instant playmakers in the NFL?
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I don’t see JLH as a guy who can beat press coverage, or someone who needs a double team. I think he would be most effective in the slot. He’s not the biggest guy in the league, or the strongest.
I expect a WR drafted with the #7 pick to be an instant threat, yes. Both of those guys are projected as top 10 picks, so while they may not start from day 1, I suspect they will surely get on the field and make plays against the single coverage they will get due to our running game.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:27 pm
RaideR,
I don’t post as other people, just FYI.
I’ve never seen you around here before though, so who do you usually post as?
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:27 pm
your on fire…
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Al is God.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Your mom.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Wow! first time in NFL history where a season is over before it actually has began!…Wow! Do you think there will be a long line for season ticket? Who are the Raiders gonna pick with the 1st pick in the NFL draft in 2010? Thanks Al!
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Repost …
Jhill Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Rsh Yds Avg Lng TD FumL
M. Lynch 23 83 3.6 14 2 0
L. Tomlinson 20 106 5.3 41 2 0
D. McAllister 13 65 5.0 9 0 0
R. Bush 14 27 1.9 5 1 0
W. McGahee 23 58 2.5 8 1 1
D. Williams 19 140 7.4 69 1 0
J. Stewart 7 21 3.0 8 0 0
R. Brown 16 101 6.3 21 0 1
R. Williams 13 49 3.8 12 0 0
L. Johnson 24 92 3.8 15 1 0
S. Slaton 18 66 3.7 19 0 0
Our run defense wasn’t THAT bad. Take out the big runs (1 play here or there) due to lack of discpline, and out run defense was right there. The talent is there.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:31 pm
All this optimism is making me sick to my stomach.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Jhill we need a big bad mofo in the middle to hit some fools coming through the holes, but I agree with your statement.
WE NEED O LINE HELP BADLY! We’re not that far away.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Eric Berry
Raiders 1st round pick next year.
1st overall
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:34 pm
LAto theBay Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Jhill Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Our run defense wasn’t THAT bad. Take out the big runs (1 play here or there) due to lack of discpline, and out run defense was right there. The talent is there.
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i just cant agree with that. we need some playmakers to add to this front 7 in order to stop the run effectively. If we choose to keep the line the same, we need a playmaking LB and vice-versa.
It would take some sort of dramatic turn around or an inferno lit under their @$$es to stop the run.
A cas ecould be made that they bent, but didn’t break and that those numbers aren’t the same if they’re not on the field so much, but i think its obvious, we gotta make a change.
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The stats don’t lie. We held some pretty good runners in check except for 1 run here, or 1 run there. You take out the “Lng” run of each of those guys above, and out run D is right where it needs to be.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Optimism? I’ll give it a shot…
At least Cable is not Art Shell.
There, how was that?
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Mike Shanahan Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Just got word that the Raiders will announce tomorrow that they hope to win 2 games in a row again next year. One and done for Cable, JR will be a bust with 4 systems in 3 years. Nice job Mr. Davis.
Thank you at least fool. At least I have a job!
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Art Shell part one or Art shell redux?
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:36 pm
So I guess the Raiders still wont have a head coach after tomorrow’s press conference. What a joke!
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
hah.
see you in 2011.
im checkin out until ad does.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
The Cards got screwed, it was not a turnover, the Pitt. is not the best franchise in history. Oh and by the way, Tom Cable seems to be the right fit for the Raiders. I’m not so sure about the staff.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Al Davis is down the road, insane. Gone bye bye.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
On the other hand, we need a playmaker at WR in the worst way. Schillens has the size and speed, is he the guy? I don’t know. He got the starting nod early in the year, and didn’t appear to be that guy. Nice WR, but I don’t know about the playmaker that we are talking about. JLH? Talked about him a bit earlier. Love him as a #2
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
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February 3rd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
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February 3rd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
I always thought your speed guys played outside, not in the slot.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
RaideR,
Art Shell part II
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
sorry ..
… or as a #3/slot receiver, but I don’t think he is the guy for the #1 role. I think be a playmaker in the slot role.
Shields? Don’t know what we have there at all.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Dakota, more like Joe Bugel II.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:40 pm
[Comment From NoMoreFargas]
Will bush get his shot next year or will he hold a grudge over his horrible mismanagment, and where you one of the numbskulls who thought he should play fb when we had no run game to speak off.
jerrymac: Bush has played exactly one season. The Hall of Fame will have to wait awhile. When the Raiders were out of fullback and the coach asked if he could play some fullback, then he could have played some fullback. He is part of the team, after all. Realize that may be a little old school. Unless you think it’s a better idea to have players determine when they play and where they play.
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wow. Jerry really put you clowns to sleep with that one!
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
If the “best franchise in league history” is determined by rings are trophies then you are wrong raider x. And if you still stick by that statement what else do you play for. The Cards didn’t get screwed, if Warner could have kept half, half the plays alive that Ben did then they would have won the game. Now I don’t like it anymore then you do but it is what it is.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Funny how this announcment comes about 45 minutes after the Chiefs say have received permission from the Cardinals to speak with Todd Haley.
And yet tommorow Al will stand up (barely) and claim Cable was his first choice all along.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Ray Ratto
Go to bed now. Story is as old as you. Sorry we are going to be positive about the future.
Talk to the players. If you want it to run different then buy the team. Were you a standby Little league parent or did you help.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Art Shell II wouldn’t have been as bad if it wasn’t for the bed and breakfast inn keeper. Cable is a way better option. It’s the DC and OC that are going to scare me! Cable needs a quality OC next to him.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:44 pm
The Steelers didn’t win a Super Bowl in the 80s. And everyone knows that the 1980s were a far superior decade than either the 90s or the 2000s. The 80s are only inferior to the 1970s. And because the Raiders won Super Bowls in both the 1970s and 1980s, that makes them the greatest team in the history of professional football.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:46 pm
REACHING……
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:48 pm
I’d take 6 over 3 anyday!
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:50 pm
TOm Cable return of the crap! God good news to no one, not even cable.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Cole Ford Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:44 pm
The Steelers didn’t win a Super Bowl in the 80s. And everyone knows that the 1980s were a far superior decade than either the 90s or the 2000s. The 80s are only inferior to the 1970s. And because the Raiders won Super Bowls in both the 1970s and 1980s, that makes them the greatest team in the history of professional football.
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OK, im a faithful, loyal, very definition of a die-hard Raider fan. i’m sure we all are, here, but does this seem as ridiculous to the rest of you as it does me?
Say we’re the greatest team because of our swagger, our accomplishments and of course, the Raider Nation, the greatest following in sports, IMO.
I am biased, but thats far-fetched to say we’re better than the Steelers because we won a Super Bowl in 80 and 83. How many times did they go through us in superior 70s? The Packers and Browns would have a serious bone to pick with you on that one.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:51 pm
It’ll be interesting to see how the coaching staff will mesh a zbs, run first conservative offense with three horses in the backfield with a pass happy Air Coryell offense with no receivers. Davis, Hackett & Tollner spells “WE ARE GOING TO THROW THE FOOTBALL”.
I hope we get some o-line help so that Russell will have his favorite target Zach Miller out there catching passes instead of blocking. I’d like to see more of McFadden & Bush in the receiving game as well
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Actually the Steelers Did win a super Bowl in the 80’s they won super bowl 14 in January of 1980, but hey why let the truth stand in the way of your anctedote?
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:54 pm
RRS
I hope we get some o-line help so that Russell will have his favorite target Zach Miller out there catching passes instead of blocking. I’d like to see more of McFadden & Bush in the receiving game as well.
agreed. why we didn’t give the ball to miller 20 more times, i’ll never know. despite all of our shortcomings last season, this guy just grabs everything in the area and makes play, and we certainly could have thrown a few more balls his way.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Two of the Steeler’s victories don’t even count (Cardinals, Seahawks) because they beat teams wouldn’t have even won eight games in the 80s or 70s. So that gives the Steelers 4 Super Bowls. Then you have to subtract the championship they won because of the “Immaculate Reception”. That leaves them with three wins. But because they did not win in the 80s, that makes the Raiders a better team.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:56 pm
NCRaiderFan, it does not count as an eighty’s victory if it was the 79 season.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Two of the Steeler’s victories don’t even count (Cardinals, Seahawks) because they beat teams wouldn’t have even won eight games in the 80s or 70s. So that gives the Steelers 4 Super Bowls. Then you have to subtract the championship they won because of the “Immaculate Reception”. That leaves them with three wins. But because they did not win in the 80s, that makes the Raiders a better team.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:58 pm
LAto theBay :
because Miller is our best blocking TE and our tackles both stunk in pass protection.
solve the tackle problem = solve the miller problem
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Cole Ford Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Two of the Steeler’s victories don’t even count (Cardinals, Seahawks) because they beat teams wouldn’t have even won eight games in the 80s or 70s. So that gives the Steelers 4 Super Bowls. Then you have to subtract the championship they won because of the “Immaculate Reception”. That leaves them with three wins. But because they did not win in the 80s, that makes the Raiders a better team.
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OK, a very good point made about both the immaculate reception and their recent SB wins. The refs didn’t decide those games, but its clear they were partial.
However, I don’t understand the argument with regards to the era. I’m sure its far tougher to win multiple championships in today’s league than at any other time in history.
And is this pre-merger? The Browns dominated their era and the Packers theirs.
By the standards of your argument, aren’t the 9ers the greatest team then?
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:59 pm
later guys. see ya in the morning
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:59 pm
If you transported those Seahawks & Cards teams to the 70’s or 80’s, they would have both went undeafeated.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:00 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:58 pm
LAto theBay :
because Miller is our best blocking TE and our tackles both stunk in pass protection.
solve the tackle problem = solve the miller problem
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ok, i’m sold. an alternative could be a big ol beast at TE.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:00 pm
The 49ers didn’t win in the 70s.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Anyways, after the Raiders win the next four Super Bowls, this argument will be moot.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:03 pm
# MaddenRaider Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Two of the Steeler’s victories don’t even count (Cardinals, Seahawks) because they beat teams wouldn’t have even won eight games in the 80s or 70s. So that gives the Steelers 4 Super Bowls. Then you have to subtract the championship they won because of the “Immaculate Reception”. That leaves them with three wins. But because they did not win in the 80s, that makes the Raiders a better team.
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Hate to break this to you, buddy boy, but they didn’t win the Super Bowl in the Immaculate Reception year, but got knocked off by Miami the next week. Good try, though. You got potential, kid….NOT.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:04 pm
They dominated the 80s, and i guess i just don’t see why the 70s are more significant. Offenses started really branching out and experimenting in the 80s (WCO?), using more weapons in passing attack that were traditionally used to block. The 80s were tougher to play in. And the 90s were tougher to play in than the 80s. And so on…
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:05 pm
It might be that this works out, but the odds are against it. As far as I can read into it, Al hired all the assistant coaches with minimal input from Cable; in Cable, he has his one choice; and he has not chosen well for some time. I thought it had a chance with Kiffin, if he had learned to be more diplomatic; but when he went, I lost hope. I don’t know how much real hope I had in the first place, actually. The biggest problem with the Raiders is complete lack of continuity. Now we will have new offensive and defensive coordinators and a new quarterbacks coach. How well does that address the problem, and do you seriously think this can get put together in less than a year?? Sorry, not me.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Dakota Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:03 pm
# MaddenRaider Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Two of the Steeler’s victories don’t even count (Cardinals, Seahawks) because they beat teams wouldn’t have even won eight games in the 80s or 70s. So that gives the Steelers 4 Super Bowls. Then you have to subtract the championship they won because of the “Immaculate Reception”. That leaves them with three wins. But because they did not win in the 80s, that makes the Raiders a better team.
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Hate to break this to you, buddy boy, but they didn’t win the Super Bowl in the Immaculate Reception year, but got knocked off by Miami the next week. Good try, though. You got potential, kid….NOT.
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thanks for the fact-check Dakota. reliable at research as always.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Whatever, the Raiders are greatest team of all time because they kick ass.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Good staff and a good HC, now on to the draft. Dakota must have a meat mustache from Ray looks to me.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:08 pm
…plus, the Raiders would have six championships themselves if they weren’t screwed over by the referees so many times.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Cole Ford Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Whatever, the Raiders are greatest team of all time because they kick ass.
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I say this in all seriousness, Cole: God bless you. I really do think they’re my greatest team of all time and they did kick ass and will again.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Cole Ford Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Two of the Steeler’s victories don’t even count (Cardinals, Seahawks) because they beat teams wouldn’t have even won eight games in the 80s or 70s. So that gives the Steelers 4 Super Bowls. Then you have to subtract the championship they won because of the “Immaculate Reception”. That leaves them with three wins. But because they did not win in the 80s, that makes the Raiders a better team.
Hardy…har…har you little whiny fader fans can come up with every excuse in the book. SIX…that’s what all the record books show. SIX…that’s what the whole world (except for faderz) know. SIX…that’s how many rings have been made. SIX…that’s how many Lombardi trophies sit in Mr. Rooney’s office. Cry about the “Immaculate Reception” all you want. Whine about the caliber of teams the Cardinals and Seahawks were. A team who wins the superbowl has to beat the team team that won the other conference championship and has no control over who that might be. So cry and whine until the tears all dry up. But before you can say you are the best francise ever you NEED to win 4 more SB’s. Think you can do that fader loserz?
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
I always thought your speed guys played outside, not in the slot
Me too
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Your not even a real Steeler’s fan Steely Pirate.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Steely the same team that won the Superbowl couldn’t beat the Raiders when they were 2-14.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
One thing is for sure, the Raiders and Steelers have the two fattest QBs in the league.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Undead Al Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Steely the same team that won the Superbowl couldn’t beat the Raiders when they were 2-14.
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ouch, fake steeler fan
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Cole Ford Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:08 pm
…plus, the Raiders would have six championships themselves if they weren’t screwed over by the referees so many times.
Wah…wah…wah, a great team will overcome all obstacles to win a SB. How many more excuses can you make fader loser?
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:13 pm
The only reason the Steelers even made it to the Super Bowl was because Tom Brady was injured.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Guess who the Raiders beat in the worst year of their existance? Thats right, the Steelers and the Cardinals lmfao.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:16 pm
The Packers have 12 championships, and the Bears 9. So stuff it Steely Pirate.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:17 pm
If the #1 pick will be a WR…
Who’s the best #1 WR available from these guys:
Maclin
Nicks
Crabtree
?
If Nicks has the same ability and potential, but can be had a few picks later, isn’t it time to move back and take him?
Remember how much CA$H money bonuses Al paid last year? Time to invest wiser this time around.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Cole Ford Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Your not even a real Steeler’s fan Steely Pirate.
Steelers and Pirates cry baby.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:18 pm
As Parcells says, you are what your record says you are. The Raiders were 31st against the run this year and 20 something against the run every year since 2004.
It wasn’t because they were on the field too long and the Raiders gave up a ridiculous amount of 100 yard rushers over the last few years while teams like the Steelers and Ravens can count on one hand the number of 100 yard rushers given up. And those two teams wouldn’t have to use all their fingers on that 1 hand.
Kelly should be moved to defensive end. That’s where he has earned his money so far. He has proven out to be a good DE that can stop the run and get about 5 or 6 sacks. Get Raji and Brace to beef up the middle and get a MLB that can hit.
That lineup will take the worst run defense in the league and get it to about average or slightly below average. THat would be a tremendous upgrade over today.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Get a life Dakota….How can one with a life type such a long azz negative response to a thread ?????? Get a life or shorten things up Dude. Most of us have better things to do than read your 20 minute negative get no where responses
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:20 pm
I’m out, have to take a dump.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Undead Al Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Steely the same team that won the Superbowl couldn’t beat the Raiders when they were 2-14.
On any given Sunday any team can beat another. SIX time superbowl champions just win more superbowl Sunday games than anyone else.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Mike Shanahan Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Just got word that the Raiders will announce tomorrow that they hope to win 2 games in a row again next year. One and done for Cable, JR will be a bust with 4 systems in 3 years. Nice job Mr. Davis.
^^^Better keep Cable around for at least 3 years and haeve him call the plays and not change systems on Russell within that time span….it may be doom and gloom….again.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Maclin is not worthy of a #7 pick. No way. Just beacause he’s fast. Is he big enough to be the number 1 guy? Is he as polished a receiver running routes. He’s 6′ 200…I am not using a number 1 for a guy like that. And if the Raiders don’t get him, look for him to go late in the first.
Meanwhile, this defense gets pushed around week after week after week. Kelly is a defensive end…Warren and Sands are backups. Time for an overhaul of the defensive line.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:22 pm
8-8 next year.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:22 pm
It was obvious that Cable was going to be coach all along, which is why they spent time getting the coordinators and position coaches in place before making a big coach announcement. Shore up the O-Line, another demon linebacker like Howard or Morrison, a veteran receiver (not Walker!) to guide the raw talent we have, and we have a serious shot at the post-season.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Cole Ford Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
One thing is for sure, the Raiders and Steelers have the two fattest QBs in the league.
That’s a good one Jesse James! Big Ben 225 lbs. JR 350 lbs.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Jon,
It is called copy and paste dumbass….I didn’t write it Ray the Ratto did, I just posted it genius.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
S&B – Nation Collective Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:18 pm
As Parcells says, you are what your record says you are. The Raiders were 31st against the run this year and 20 something against the run every year since 2004.
It wasn’t because they were on the field too long and the Raiders gave up a ridiculous amount of 100 yard rushers over the last few years while teams like the Steelers and Ravens can count on one hand the number of 100 yard rushers given up. And those two teams wouldn’t have to use all their fingers on that 1 hand.
Kelly should be moved to defensive end. That’s where he has earned his money so far. He has proven out to be a good DE that can stop the run and get about 5 or 6 sacks. Get Raji and Brace to beef up the middle and get a MLB that can hit.
That lineup will take the worst run defense in the league and get it to about average or slightly below average. THat would be a tremendous upgrade over today.
^^^I agree…Kelly should moved to DE and just be kept there and they need to draft a DT like Brace or Hood in Round 2 or 3.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
S&B – Nation Collective Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:18 pm
As Parcells says, you are what your record says you are. The Raiders were 31st against the run this year and 20 something against the run every year since 2004.
It wasn’t because they were on the field too long and the Raiders gave up a ridiculous amount of 100 yard rushers over the last few years while teams like the Steelers and Ravens can count on one hand the number of 100 yard rushers given up. And those two teams wouldn’t have to use all their fingers on that 1 hand.
Kelly should be moved to defensive end. That’s where he has earned his money so far. He has proven out to be a good DE that can stop the run and get about 5 or 6 sacks. Get Raji and Brace to beef up the middle and get a MLB that can hit.
That lineup will take the worst run defense in the league and get it to about average or slightly below average. THat would be a tremendous upgrade over today.
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absolutely. the personell in place simply can’t get it done. you can blame it on Rob Ryan if u want, but Marshall’s D will not be much different in nature. we need some playmakers.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Uh, in the modern game receivers, speedy or possession type line up wherever there may be. Slot, wide, backfield. Schemes are to get them the ball, not where they line up.
Good, so some of you are already handing over the next season as a complete failure. Does that mean we won’t (here’s to hope) have to read your childish postings for at least a year?
Come on prognosticators. Pony up. If it is all set in stone then you should have no trouble venturing to Vegas or Tahoe and plunking down your own monies on the winner of it all as y’all can see the future so clearly.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Cole Ford Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:13 pm
The only reason the Steelers even made it to the Super Bowl was because Tom Brady was injured.
Then why didn’t you win the SB?
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Oh now he comes with that any given Sunday nonsense, the Steelers hit the pits of hell with that loss Steely Dan. Go back to your ugly men and women in your ugly state, you deserve each other.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
HayesDaze#37 Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:17 pm
If the #1 pick will be a WR…
Who’s the best #1 WR available from these guys:
Maclin
Nicks
Crabtree
?
If Nicks has the same ability and potential, but can be had a few picks later, isn’t it time to move back and take him?
Remember how much CA$H money bonuses Al paid last year? Time to invest wiser this time around.
^^^I’m not a big fan of Maclin….I value the WR’s who are built like NFL players like Crabtree, Nicks and Britt
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I don’t want Nnamdi Asmomugha traded but its time to face reality. Reports suggest that he doesn’t believe in the Raider organization to turn things around. Plus he wants a shot at the glory of a Super Bowl. If the guy doesn’t want to sign a long-term deal, a trade is absolutely necessary for three reasons:
1. If the Raiders franchise him this year, he is free to walk with no compensation in 2010
2. No point in keeping any player that doesn’t want to be here. Hurts the lockerroom, morale and can become a side show. Plus it will hurt his preparation
3. THe Raiders have other holes to fill. A number 1 and number 2 this year could really help fill the roster. Look at a potential mock draft if Asomugha was traded.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Packer Pete Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:16 pm
The Packers have 12 championships, and the Bears 9. So stuff it Steely Pirate.
Let’s compare apples to apples. Plus the discussion is the faderz believe that 3 SB’s are better than SIX SB’s
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:28 pm
A mock draft if Nnamdi is traded. This gets the defense to average at least. If these players were on the team this year, they beat Buffalo, San Diego and Miami.
#7 – B.J Raji DT, Boston College – He can take on double teams, collapse the line and is nasty against the run
#22 from Vikings – James Laurenaitus MLB, Ohio State – Here is the hitter up the middle and Morrison moves to OLB. Raiders fix two defensive positions with one pick
#40 – Troy Kropog RT, Tulane – Gotta get Cornell Green outta there
#54 from Vikings – Ron Brace DT, Boston College – Brace and Raji up the middle and Kelly can be kicked out to defensive end. Time to stop the run
#71 – Trevor Canfield RG, Cincinnati – Agile guard needed to replaced Carlisle
#103 – A.Q Shipley C, Penn State – If Jake is not brought back, the Raiders need a Center
6th & 7th rounds – Pick the best available players, looking for a Free Safety and Defensive End
I am assuming Nnamdi does not want to be here. I hope he stays but the comments don’t sound promising.
This draft makes the Raiders better on the lines and should have instant impact on the field come September. The defense fixes DTs, MLB, SLB and the O-Line is built up at each position (Tackle, Guard and Center).
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:28 pm
M Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Uh, in the modern game receivers, speedy or possession type line up wherever there may be. Slot, wide, backfield. Schemes are to get them the ball, not where they line up.
Good, so some of you are already handing over the next season as a complete failure. Does that mean we won’t (here’s to hope) have to read your childish postings for at least a year?
Come on prognosticators. Pony up. If it is all set in stone then you should have no trouble venturing to Vegas or Tahoe and plunking down your own monies on the winner of it all as y’all can see the future so clearly.
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breath of fresh air, M. you sound kinda like a writer. as for this issue of the slot. the slot receiver is the guy who can go up the middle and make plays in between the numbers. Some teams have a big guy in the slot, others have more speedy guys. Your #1 guy doesn’t have to be a tall deep threat neccecarily, you’re #1 guy is your best receiver. period.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Nnamdi could be served to notice Adrian Wilson. Could have signed anywhere. Stayed home for eight years, many dismal, and made it to within a toenail of a ring.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
M,
As things stand right now I’d say 6-10 is the best we can expect. Would you classify that as a complete failure? I would.
Of course, if Al kicks some major ass in the draft and free agency we might get to 8-8.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
The women are so ugly in Pittsburg the can’t even field a cheerleading squad, now thats bad.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Undead Al Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Oh now he comes with that any given Sunday nonsense, the Steelers hit the pits of hell with that loss Steely Dan. Go back to your ugly men and women in your ugly state, you deserve each other.
Have you ever been to PA? Yes the women here are not as hot as the ones in SoCal but Chokeland doesn’t even have women.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:30 pm
If I’m not mistaken Marshall was criticized in Seattle for not blitzing. But no matter, the Defense will be the same. It’s Al’s Defense, period.
If the D-Line is the same, Philosophy the same, I expect the performance to be the same.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Yes I have been to PA and the men have bigger tits than the women loverboy. Come to a Raider game if you want to see real women of the world.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:33 pm
From what I read Marshall is a blitzing fool with the right players.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:33 pm
LAto Bay,
thank you. I have written only one book so far and it has not seen the light of bookshelves. Oh well…
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Steely the Raiders have cheerleaders and Pittsburg does not, what does that tell you?
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Seahawks’ fans sure don’t think too highly of Mr. Marshall.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:36 pm
They did until last year.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
S&B – Nation Collective Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I don’t want Nnamdi Asmomugha traded but its time to face reality. Reports suggest that he doesn’t believe in the Raider organization to turn things around. Plus he wants a shot at the glory of a Super Bowl. If the guy doesn’t want to sign a long-term deal, a trade is absolutely necessary for three reasons:
1. If the Raiders franchise him this year, he is free to walk with no compensation in 2010
2. No point in keeping any player that doesn’t want to be here. Hurts the lockerroom, morale and can become a side show. Plus it will hurt his preparation
3. THe Raiders have other holes to fill. A number 1 and number 2 this year could really help fill the roster. Look at a potential mock draft if Asomugha was traded.
^^^The old man better try to sigh Nnamdi long term and if he says he doesn’t want to be here….then and only then do they trade him for the necessary picks and hope the old man DOES NOT pick safeties, a punter, and two corner backs….hope and pray he picks an OT,DE,DT, and MIKE OR WILL and ONE WR.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Just like Gilbride, NY fans were begging Al to take him away one year after a Superbowl win.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Steely pirate:
Nice nickname…. NOT!! Screw you, the aluminum curtain and the rest of you doucha-la-baggios who turned into San Fran fans back in the early 80s because you all have no HEART or pride in your team. I love how you boo your own team if something doesnt go how you like it to. That shows real team pride. Another thing, why does every Pittsburgh TD require a 15min booth review? Score a indisputable touchdown for once!! Shove those 6 rings up your A_SES!
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Undead Al Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Yes I have been to PA and the men have bigger tits than the women loverboy. Come to a Raider game if you want to see real women of the world.
I’ve been to a fader game and all I saw was a bunch of kweers in Halloween costumes and monkey suits.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
The best the defense looked all year Aso barely played.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Hey, at least there is no way Marshall could be worse than Rob Ryan!
Right?
Right?
naaaaa
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
any of you guys get this update email from the raiderbeat.com website today? I believe they are an offshoot of insidethebayarea.com and what a bunch of morons. They sent out their email updates with everyone’s email published in the email. Does everything associated with the Raiders always have to be this bad?
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Undead,
I have lived in both eastern and western Pennsylvania. The people in Philly win the prize for being the largest group of a$$holes on the continent. Steeltowners on the other hand were ever pleasant and willing to be helpful even when I identified myself as an Oakland Raider diehard.
As for women, there are lovelies most anywhere you can ever go.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
what player is going to want to stick around this organization?
I bet Russell so looks foward to dealing with Grandpa’s all around…YIKES
when can he escape? three more years
this sucks and will suck for years to come
but DREAM ON!
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Undead Al Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Steely the Raiders have cheerleaders and Pittsburg does not, what does that tell you?
That you haven’t come out of the closet yet?
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:41 pm
I bet you could wear a braw Steely and you probably have red hair and red freckles. Queers even have a hard time looking at you.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Dakota
Can we start today over again!
“morning”
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
we need trench people…
trench people…
yeah…
the cable is connected…
now let’s see the big picture…
we got a coach who appreciates the value and importance of line play… and line players…
look for emphasis on trench people…
and to me that’s winning football…
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Look , I bleed Silver and Black just like (almost everyone else in here, but this Steeler-bashing stuff is just a little comical to me.
If the Raiders had six Lombardis and the Steelers had three there’s no way you’d even listen to the Steeler fan saying his team was better. Quality of opponent in the game? Please. You’d laugh him right off the site.
I don’t like it any more than anyone else, but you have to give credit where it’s due. The Steelers have six, we have three. They have scoreboard, and the only thing for us to do is try and get better and try and be the next team to have four.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
RaiderSean Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Steely pirate:
Nice nickname…. NOT!! Screw you, the aluminum curtain and the rest of you doucha-la-baggios who turned into San Fran fans back in the early 80s because you all have no HEART or pride in your team. I love how you boo your own team if something doesnt go how you like it to.
I think you’re thinking of Norco Bob, Dakota, Brien, MR, Oakglenn……..and the list goes on….and on.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Dakota,
I think you should look into the Cleveland Browns blogs to pump them up for your favorite Defensive Coordinator. What say? Mangenius and Robbo and Quinn, Browns oughta be Stupendous Bowl bound next year.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
For example take a look at Al Davis, he was born one state over you know lol.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Dakota, why so negative?
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Dakota Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Seahawks’ fans sure don’t think too highly of Mr. Marshall.
^^^True, but that was just this year when basically the offense was in terrible shape.
His defenses in Seattle were overall pretty good and he generated sacks!
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
#122
Exactly. And the way they operate is diametrically opposed to the way the Raiders operate, of late.
We used to be similar.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Undead Al Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:41 pm
I bet you could wear a braw Steely and you probably have red hair and red freckles. Queers even have a hard time looking at you.
Hardy….har….har….you’d lose more money with that bet than you lost all season betting on the faderz.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Florida Pete,
prophesizing correctly as it should be.
O-line D-line O-line D-line
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
The Seahawks ranked second in sacks in the NFL under Marshall until last year.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:47 pm
I’ll leave that up to you M, but I am interested in your prediction for the 2009 Raiders. If you had to guess right now, what will our record be in 2009? I know, I know, there is still a lot to be determined, what with the draft and free agency and all, but let’s say someone put a gun to your head right now….what is our record in 2009?
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:47 pm
M Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Nnamdi could be served to notice Adrian Wilson. Could have signed anywhere. Stayed home for eight years, many dismal, and made it to within a toenail of a ring.
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Yes he could. And it would be better to build something up than simply come on board after the heavy lifting is done. But that’s up to Nnamdi.
If I am the Raiders, the worst thing in the world to do is think that you can convince him to stay after the end of next year.
If losing Asomugha is certain, then the Raiders would effectively be throwing away a 1st and 2nd round draft picks for nothing. Didn’t the Raiders lose enough with the deAngelo Hall debacle
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:49 pm
forget the steelers…
this is about the raiders…
don’t care how many trophies they have…
i care about how many we have and when we’re going to get our next one…
for the next year the steelers are going to be known as the super bowl champs…
it’s like a rule… let it go…
let’s focus on the Raiders…
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Hey guys I was just messing with you♥♥♥ I’m not really Steely Pirate and I’m not really a Steeler fan. I’m a 49er fan.
Madden Raider
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
How many Coaches have the Steelers had in the last 20 yrs?
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Hey guys I was just messing with you♥♥♥ I’m not really Steely Pirate and I’m not really a Steeler fan. I’m a die hard Charger fan!
Charged Up!
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Forget the Steelers, they have been vastly superior to us for the past 25 years, so let’s focus on just trying to get some respect back….and today was a large step away from that goal.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Hey guys I was just messing with you♥♥♥ I’m not really Steely Pirate and I’m not really a Steeler fan. I’m really a die hard Bronco fan!
Spider
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Dakota,
prediction. As of right now. I agree with you, if all things fall in place .500. Tough schedule. QB still on learning curve. That was good enough to win the division this year.
That is unless your love child unleashes something more than umpteen weeks of turf toe. then things could change.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Hey guys I was just messing with you♥♥♥ I’m not really Steely Pirate and I’m not really a Steeler fan. I’m really a die hard Vikning fan!
Dakota
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Turf toes M turf toes.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:54 pm
stumbled on a heckuva mock draft site
dcprosportsreport.com/MockDraft
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:56 pm
I’d say if Crabtree falls to 7 the Raiders have to take him.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Undead,
I stand corrected.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:56 pm
trade NAMDI
get more pics
we dont meed anymore rookie WRS !!!! get BOLDIN or vet to play across WALKER, play higgins in slot
sign JOHNSON, ROUTT and CJ are pencilied in for now
get bigger stronger DE, were to light in the ASS and gurds pull and run all day on the end
we NEED OT , stud MLB, another DT create chemistry around RUSSEL
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Repost
How many Coaches have the Steelers had in the last 20 yrs?
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:57 pm
S&B,
If you think both of our DTs are so bad, how do you know Morrison isn’t the guy at MLB?
Your mock is just not realistic. We are not moving Kelly back to DE and drafting 2 new DTs. It’s just not going to happen.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:57 pm
It doesn’t matter who the coach is for Oakland. Al Davis runs this team and has taken more control than ever. Just have to hope that he can catch lightining in a bottle mixed in with a dose of luck.
It is what it is….It’s Al Davis’ team and this is the way he chooses to run it. I don’t like it and I think its backwards and self-destructive. Oh well….I don’t get worked up about coaches in Oakland anymore.
Hopefully the players can rise to the occasion. There is talent on the roster, hopefully the coaches are competent enough to get it done.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:58 pm
I can’t believe that dirt bag Steeler fan punked you pukes out like that. Where’s your backbone? How come you didn’t defend our “Commitment to Excellence?”
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:58 pm
# SC Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:16 pm
ITS OVER!!! See everyone back here next year with the same old issues!!!
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LOL
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# KoolKell Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Repost
How many Coaches have the Steelers had in the last 20 yrs?
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3 – and all of them have won a SB
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:59 pm
http://madconomist.com/its-official-the-ugliest-people-in-us-live-in-philadelphia
LOL nice read on PA and the ugly people there.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:00 pm
it’s amazing to me that the very same people who justified keeping that ignorant little bitcsh kiffie after last year’s debacle (in the name of continuity) are the same ones shouting from their rooftops that all is lost…
Cable is far far far better than kiffie…
hell, the fact that he is an adult makes it a 300% improvement…
look for the Raiders to rally around this guy and play some football…
look for an emphasis on the O and D lines…
look for some wins, and a team we can be proud of…
oh, and those of you who are still whimpering for kiffie… just follow his progress at Tennessee…
in a year you will be thanking Al for getting rid of him when he did…
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Me, I would take Nnamdi for another year. Trading away your best player is not useful. Don’t really care if the Raiders get good draft picks for him via trade. 50% of all draftees are nadas no matter who signs them. All world or run of the mill. No brainer to me. Plus, one never knows what another year will bring.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Well it has been fun today! Just remember, when we are 6-10 next season and most of you are calling for Cable’s head on a platter, don’t say I didn’t warn you!
Get ready for more bad Raider football. All of these hires are putrid. Al has fuked things up so much that we now have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find anyone that wants to work here.
And some of you are actually applauding him for it!
lmfao
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:01 pm
I Dress In Black,
Thank-you, coincidence?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Hey JMac. Any word on the D coordinator?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Sup guys, long time no see
Considering that Davis hired Paul hackett and is probably gonna hire tollner, both QB guru’s, it’s obvious that he is trying to save jamarcus from being a bust. Also I’m guessing he’s gonna draft an OT an a WR in the first two rounds of the draft.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:01 pm
http://www.planetizen.com/node/27872
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Johnnie Lee Higgins 22 catches 366 yards 4 TDs
Chaz Schilens 15 catches 226 yards 2 TDs
These are season totals of our projected starting WRs next year.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Undead Al Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:59 pm
http://madconomist.com/its-official-the-ugliest-people-in-us-live-in-philadelphia
LOL nice read on PA and the ugly people there.
Good try pea brain. You’ve defended MY team against the people of Philadelphia but the 6 time SB champions live in Pittsburg. Not Philly lame brain!
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Florida Pete Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:00 pm
it’s amazing to me that the very same people who justified keeping that ignorant little bitcsh kiffie after last year’s debacle (in the name of continuity) are the same ones shouting from their rooftops that all is lost…
Cable is far far far better than kiffie…
hell, the fact that he is an adult makes it a 300% improvement…
look for the Raiders to rally around this guy and play some football…
look for an emphasis on the O and D lines…
look for some wins, and a team we can be proud of…
oh, and those of you who are still whimpering for kiffie… just follow his progress at Tennessee…
in a year you will be thanking Al for getting rid of him when he did…
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you got yourself a witness, budy.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Jhil
The offense was completely different later in the year when Harris was finally removed.
And when Kiffin’s lame offense was canned.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:05 pm
No I said PA tickturd.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Prescient Pete,
post 153 should be obvious to anyone who took the time to stop whining.
KoolKell,
Cowher took 15 years to win a Super Bowl. Willing to wait that long?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:07 pm
so nice to see we got a coach but too bad ol’ AD had no other choice.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Press conference tomorrow at noon? Good. I’ll be at work.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:07 pm
So what are we going to call the new staff? Here’s a couple:
“The Geritol Gang” or ” The Bucket List Crew”.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Jhill Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Johnnie Lee Higgins 22 catches 366 yards 4 TDs
Chaz Schilens 15 catches 226 yards 2 TDs
These are season totals of our projected starting WRs next year.
Duh! Puke face. That’s why we need to pick Beanie Wells RB THE Ohio State University. To bolster our running game and get away from our weak passing game. It’s not rocket science you ungrateful little punk!
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
KK – None at all.
I found this interesting to be run in a Boston paper
http://www.boston.com/sports/columnists/massarotti/2009/02/steelers_now_the_1.html
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Jhill Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Johnnie Lee Higgins 22 catches 366 yards 4 TDs
Chaz Schilens 15 catches 226 yards 2 TDs
These are season totals of our projected starting WRs next year.
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ya, but thats cuz we were wasting our time with walker/lelie/curry most of the year.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Man up boys,
The decision has been made, now support your team. I’ve not heard this much whinning, well ever. If you like the Raiders root for them, if you dont like it, find another team.
Bunch a babies.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Well, I for one hope Crabtree is available at #7. I kinda doubt it, but it sure would be nice if he was. He’s the only WR I would take with a pick that high. Maclin is a bigger version of JLH, and we saw Johnnie Lee’s struggles with route running and such in his rookie year. Just don’t think a WR taken number 7 overall should have to have a learning curve like that. Nicks is solid, but no way we take him that high.
If Crabtree’s not there I would hope that we would address the D-line in some way. It’s encouraging that, while with Seattle, Marshall and Board did have success generating a pass rush. I think that was attractive to Al because as we know the cornerstones of his defensive philosophy are pressure on the passer wtih the front four, and good cornerback play. I would like to think that they would be able to determine where the real holes are on the line and address them; I know we can sit here and say stuff, but both of those guys have a pretty good track record, and unlike Ryan, Al’s is the kind of system they’ve been coaching for a long time. Will it work? Who knows, but the Giants have shown that with the right personnel and proper execution it’s not an unsound philosophy.
I am sold on Brace and Brinley, though. I’m not going to say “I saw them first” or anything, but I did post about them both in late December and really do think that they (or players like them) should be strongly considered.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
M
Don’t be silly
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In Cowher’s 15 seasons, the Steelers captured eight division titles, earned ten postseason playoff berths, played in 21 playoff games, advanced to six AFC Championship games and made two Super Bowl appearances. He is one of only six coaches in NFL history to claim at least seven division titles. It has become an article of faith among NFL pundits that the Steelers do not have a bad team two years in a row – they have never lost 10 or more games in consecutive years since the 1970 NFL merger. At the conclusion of the 2005 season, the Pittsburgh Steelers had the best record of any team in the National Football League since Cowher was hired as head coach.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Hey Steeler fan, aren’t you wishing you guys would have just choked in the playoffs and missed the SB in ‘95? You’d be 6-0 in the Super Bowl. Whiner fans still have bragging rights on the 1.000 percentage.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Sup folks,
Just dropping a line, cuz I’ve enjoyed the majority of the posts I’ve read and wanted to acknowledge that….it looks as though the last hire of Marshall for DC can’t be too far away, so aside from debating the draft (which has been beaten to death in these forums already), we’re at a good breaking point for me. I honestly can’t keep spending this much time at work reading these forums, especially when over half the posts either have NOTHING to do with the topic or is just banter between trolls. Half the time I get just about caught up with no time left to add my own reply. Boo hoo for me.
Anyhoo much respect for the real Raiders fans in here, I hope to chat with y’all and enjoy Big Trouble quotes again soon. Like my opinion matters for squat, but just throwing it out there….this is a longstanding proud franchise, so stay away from the ledge, enjoy life and I hope to see the team resepected among the league again soon. Here’s to Al kickin the bucket. Peas.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:10 pm
M Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Me, I would take Nnamdi for another year. Trading away your best player is not useful. Don’t really care if the Raiders get good draft picks for him via trade. 50% of all draftees are nadas no matter who signs them. All world or run of the mill. No brainer to me. Plus, one never knows what another year will bring
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Keeping your best player for one more year…that PROBABLY won’t be a Super Bowl year mind you….and losing said player for NOTHING is insane. yeah, draft picks are no certainty, but losing Nnamdi in 2010 would be a certainty and WITH NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT.
Do the Raiders really need a replay of Charles Woodson?
Get the picks and take a shot and getting the team better.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Undead Al Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:05 pm
No I said PA tickturd.
Well genius….the article was about Philadelphia and the author never said anything about Pittsburgh. No wonder this nation is falling apart! Dumbazz, ungrateful punks for fans. Whatever happened to the good old days?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Cowher had the Madden label of not being able to win the big game untill he won a Superbowl though.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Its not our fault that PA has the ugliest people in America but its still a fact of life, now move on.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Quit yer whining you wimps and take it up the a$$ like a man like I do. All good fans just need ta sit back, spread their cheeks and let the man give them whatever they want, and good fans take it with a smile on their faces.
the rest of you are wimps!
Stop spreading lies about Al Davis and the Raiders and start spreading your cheeks!
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
M
AL should of sign NAMDI long term last year…INSTEAD he jerked off on the phone for hours personalizing a contract for a guy who couldnt play in bump n run
thats how great AL is..anyways..you think NAMDI or say BURGESS wants to bust thier hump for this team..
hell no
..get picks while you can cause the RAIDERS need help in many areas
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:13 pm
OK, this is really negative, but I have to say it. Who wants to bet that a) we lose our first game, and b) we run the ball less than 30 times?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Depends on who we play in the opener. If its Pittsburg then I would say you will win the bet because all we have to do to beat them is throw it 60 times. Haley sure does regret not throwing more in the first half.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Against NE, Schillens had 1 catch for 4 yds, and JLH had 3 for 66 yds and a TD. The TD was a 56 yd play, so 2 for 10 yds on the others.
Against Tex, both had 3 catches for 56 and 52 yds, and both scored a TD.
Against Tampa, Schillens had 3 catches for 46 yds and a TD, and JLH had 6 for 52 and a TD.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Al? I don’t understand why you put up with this crap. At your age you should be spending all your time at the golf course. Sell me your team. I’ll move the team to San Antonio and you’ll have your revenge on these ungrateful fans in Oakland.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
S&B,
a certainty? hmmm, I have been certain of a lot of things that have become, well, uncertainties.
KoolKell,
granted. Cowher had success. Thought all the whining here was that the Raiders have not won a Super Bowl in a quarter century. Hasn’t that been the ultimate goal?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
I agree 100% M!
This isn’t a democracy so just lay down and take it like a good fan!
It is obvious that Cable is way better than Kiffie .25% vs .333.
I think I proved my point!
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
defintion of manning up-
drinking the kool aid getting drunk at games and being ignorant of the hard cold reality.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:17 pm
interesting #s. this is percentage of passes caught vs. balls thrown to.
Zach Miller 65.1
JLH 52.3
DMC 76.3
Chaz 46.9
Lelie 24.4
Walker 46.9
Curry 39.6
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Jhill Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Johnnie Lee Higgins 22 catches 366 yards 4 TDs
Chaz Schilens 15 catches 226 yards 2 TDs
These are season totals of our projected starting WRs next year
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Yes and its unacceptable. But also remember that these two guys didn’t start 16 games. I think Higgins started all of 3 games? Schilens was hurt most of the year and maybe had 3 or 4 starts himslf.
The question to be asked is….what receivers in the draft are substantively better prospects than these two are right now? The Raiders know what they have in Higgins and Schilens. Can you say Nicks or Maclin are better prospects? Crabtree I’ll give you, but not the others. So then, if the prospects available are not much better than JLH and Chaz AND the Raiders have other pressing needs to fill, why would the Raiders use their top picks on a receiver?
THEY ARE WHO WE KNOW THEY ARE….31ST AGAINST THE RUN!
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:17 pm
ya, but thats cuz we were wasting our time with walker/lelie/curry most of the year.
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Schillens moved into the starting lineup ahead of Curry very early in the season.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Undead, good point. Let me add to it, then. I’ll bet you in our first 4 games next year, we run the ball an average of less than 30 times a game. The reason I’m saying this is because people who wanted Cable are using the Tampa game to support their argument. We only won in Tampa because we ran the ball. I’m thinking Cable only ran the ball because Al was nowhere near the place. That won’t be the case this season. Does Al want to see his golden qb handing the ball off? Cause it’s the only way this team is going to break the .500 mark for the first time since ‘02.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Al. I’ll even draft Beanie and show these imbreds what a genius you really are.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
I thought this was an interesting quote from that Boston article
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“Pittsburgh has a playmaking quarterback, a bright young coach and a suffocating defense under one of the most respected ownerships in league history. There is no reason to think any of that will change in the immediate future.”
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
FLORIDA PETE
theres no scientific evidence to prove these coaches even are given a fair opporutnity to “coach”
thats the bottom line for the Kiffin situation…He wanted to be a coach..I am over it …lets all unite and get over it.
I like cable dont luv him..and am not excited one bit
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
How about a new updated Raider Mock with a trade down…..
Trade down 5 spots….
Round 1- DE Everette Brown or Orakpo
Round 2a- WR Kenny Britt or Hakeem Nicks
Round 2b- DT Ron Brace or Ziggy Hood
Round 3- RT Troy Kropog
Round 4- LB Jasper Brinkley
No 5th Rounder yet
Round 6- FB Quinn Johnson
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
I don’t have a problem with the Cable decision, it just bothers me that it happened so late.
Get this though, the guys on Sirius’ Movin’ the Chains actually liked the idea of hiring Marshall (when it happens), and liked that Al was going to put experienced guys around a younger head coach (Cable).
Not saying we are going to be .500 next year, but maybe this isn’t all bad.
I have no idea why it takes uncle Al 12000 years to make a decision…
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:20 pm
BIG EASY Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
defintion of manning up-
drinking the kool aid getting drunk at games and being ignorant of the hard cold reality.
Don’t forget the Halloweeie costumes and the monkey suits.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Gee, must’ve agitated a nerve in someone.
If anyone deserves to feed deeply from the revenue trough of the NFL it is Asomugha. Here, elsewhere, why get rid of him? For draftees? Now that is ludicrous.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Halloweenie.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
The Raiders will hold a press conference tomorrow at 12:00 PM PST to announce the signing of their new head coach: Christian Bale. He’s a motivator.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
M,
I hope you are right. I am a big Asomugha guy and he has a big impact on the defense.
But if the guy refuses to sign a longterm deal, are you willing to see him go in 2010 for nothing?
THEY ARE WHO WE KNOW THEY ARE….31ST AGAINST THE RUN!
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
By the way, the latest McShay mock draft at ESPN has the Raiders selecting Crabtree.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Al drafted McFadden and Bush would be my response, so based on that fact I think Al wants to run first. Drafting Russell was a no brainer at that time of his selection but Al could have passed on McFadden and he took a big risk with Bush not knowing if he could ever play again.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
i like bread
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Steelers- stable, football comes first, classy
Raiders- AL comes first, coaching secondary, altletes not players, shady
AL puts more energy in trying to do it “his way” that it undermines any attempt to have structure that doesnt put him first
AL doesnt belive in chemistry…he forgets that without Ron Wolfe or Tom Flores…he be just a maverick shrewd buisnessman
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Halloweenie.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
The one thing you can have as a fan every year is blind hope and optimism. With the economy in the toilet and me losing my job soon, even though I know there’s only a slim chance that Cable will be successful, I’m gonna hold onto to that slim chance. At least that may get me to September or if I’m lucky maybe even October. We all know how Al operates by now and to be part of the Raider Nation means you just accept it. We don’t have to like it but thats still my team, I’m not jumping ship. Maybe Cable isn’t the next Bill Walsh, Bill Parcells or even Tom Flores but there were few good signs of things that happened at the end of the season. For one he benched players that weren’t producing and had some players complain about it, which is a good thing. The offense actually started to put points on the scoreboard and at least there seemed to be a plan of attack. And the most important thing is the team didn’t completely tank and actually played hard the last few games. Now maybe that means nothing but how often had we seen this team now even show up over the last few years. To have a young team not give up down 10 in the final quarter of a losing season maybe, just maybe provides something to build on. And if not there’s nothing to lose in at least hoping because there’s enough negativity otherwise. Just Win Baby…
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
The cable “decision”? LOL. If you want to call it a decision. I think the decision was made by the people Al was trying to bring in. I’m telling you, that press conference firing Kiffin may have gotten the Davis crowd fired up but it ensured that we’ll never get any head coach worth a damn again. Ever. Not even coordinators. Only a Davis yes-man would work here now. They don’t have to worry about getting the overhead projector action. They know all they have to do is what Mr. Davis asks them too, and they’ll just be scapegoated in a short and brief matter, without ad hominem. They try to be a coach, they get the projector.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Later Nation. Maybe we’ll be talkin about another sideshow press conference. Al brings the overhead projector, i bring the popcorn.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
If we wouldn’t have got screwed by the snow-job, we beat pittsuburgh and win the SB that year.
So atleast we would be at 4 to 5. I would be OK with that.
-moshbucket
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
So then, if the prospects available are not much better than JLH and Chaz AND the Raiders have other pressing needs to fill, why would the Raiders use their top picks on a receiver?
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I could use that same argument against your boy Raji. He is not going to supplant Kelly, so why spend the #7 pick on him? We are not moving Kelly to DE, Warren and Sands to the bench for a college duo of Raji and Brace.
We all agree that the run defense needs to be addressed. Some of us just think that a combo of either Maybin or Orakpo at #7, and Brace or Hood in the 2nd would be a better way to address it. A starting Dline of Orakpo-Kelly-Brace-Burgess would address the run concerns. Especially if Scott gets a lot of time for Burgess.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
I don’t think Davis will worry about the cap until a new CBA is reached.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
the press conference will be at 4:15 ET according to ESPN and NFL network.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Halloweenie coaching staff
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
S&B,
to me Nnamdi, a man of character by all accounts, deserves to be recompensed as much or more than all of the self-serving CB divas combined. And yes, I would allow him to go if he chooses to without begging for draft picks. For nothing. Kicking him out the door for the sake of expediency would be unworthy, in my opinion.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:31 pm
AL makes me luagh..he needs to be charcter on Southpark or Family guy or Simsons because this is ridiculous
Dr.Phil would shoot AL in the head with a bazzooka
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Jerry-
I have heard Marc Trestman has yet to be contacted by the Raiders.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Jaysohn,
post 209 speaks for may of us.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:33 pm
BamaRaider, people say that the game plan we ran vs. Pittsburgh in ‘02 was actually the game plan Gruden would have used against them in the AFC title game had we beat NE. Who knows? That year could have been our year. But of course, Davis was running Gru out of town during the season and it created too many distractions, leading to late season losses that resulted in us having to play in NE to begin with.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Florida Pete Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
I agree 100% M!
This isn’t a democracy so just lay down and take it like a good fan!
It is obvious that Cable is way better than Kiffie .25% vs .333.
I think I proved my point!
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MR… i don’t think you’re very good at being me…
for one thing… i get my facts straight…
also, i would never capitalize kiffie…
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
I miss that little alpha male fk’er.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Florida Pete, I would never post under your name and make you look smart without charging you a fee. It’s not me, bud.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:37 pm
I suck at trolling.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:38 pm
I’m so transparent.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Jhill says,
I could use that same argument against your boy Raji. He is not going to supplant Kelly, so why spend the #7 pick on him? We are not moving Kelly to DE, Warren and Sands to the bench for a college duo of Raji and Brace.
We all agree that the run defense needs to be addressed. Some of us just think that a combo of either Maybin or Orakpo at #7, and Brace or Hood in the 2nd would be a better way to address it. A starting Dline of Orakpo-Kelly-Brace-Burgess would address the run concerns. Especially if Scott gets a lot of time for Burgess.
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Because……
1. Burgess is on the team this year and is healthy
2. Trevor Scott’s play in 2008 warrants more playing time in 2009. He weighs 255, if he gains 5 to 10 pounds he will have the requisite bulk to be an every down guy
3. At 6′1 330, Raji can play both DT positions and is far and away the best DT prospect on the team. If stopping the run is a priority, getting the best DT makes the most sense. DTs and MLBs primary responsibility is to stop the run….DEs get to the QB
Also…
Like Raji, Crabtree is far ans away the best prospect at his position. Outside of Crabtree, the other wide receiver prospects are not 1st round caliber
THEY ARE WHO WE KNOW THEY ARE….31ST AGAINST THE RUN!
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:40 pm
DarthPirate Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
I don’t have a problem with the Cable decision, it just bothers me that it happened so late.
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Not saying we are going to be .500 next year, but maybe this isn’t all bad.
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speaking as an older guy i can tell you time goes by much faster when you’re older…
and speaking as an employer… each friday comes very quickly when payroll needs to be met… and revenue is skinny…
I have no idea why it takes uncle Al 12000 years to make a decision…
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February 3rd, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Florida Pete, Cable is a yes man. and when you’re a yes man to a man who has lost his grip on his profession, it’s not going to be good. Kiffin wasn’t a yes man. He did his own thing. Kiffin was also using a ball control offense that we needed to use, and still need to use. We’d be on the verge of being a playoff team today had Al just let Kiffin do his job.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Oh well gentlemen, ladies, it has been fun. Looks like the nattering nabob of negativism has returned in full foolishness. (Yes, put that in your Agnew and smoke it.)
Later.
Raider on.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:42 pm
And also, Pete, the way Davis handled the Kiffin situation, with his bizarre melt down on national television, ensured we’ll never get a real head coach again, nor GM. That’s why we’re stuck with an offensive line coach who has zero demand in this league…as our HEAD COACH!! Why do you think it took so long to make the announcement? Al probably spent the last few months begging Madden to return. It’s over for Al. This team doesn’t have a chance of having a .500 season until Al is no longer involved, in any capacity. Nobody is coming here now.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:44 pm
M, the natteering nabob of negatisvism? Is that what you guys call Al Davis now? He’s the one who’s driven out every good coach we’ve ever had and left us with barney rubble, not me.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:45 pm
M Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
S&B,
to me Nnamdi, a man of character by all accounts, deserves to be recompensed as much or more than all of the self-serving CB divas combined. And yes, I would allow him to go if he chooses to without begging for draft picks. For nothing. Kicking him out the door for the sake of expediency would be unworthy, in my opinion.
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I don’t think its about the money with Nnamdi. I can’t believe Davis wouldn’t shell out the dollars to keep the best player this team has seen in 25+ years. But if after all that, Nnamdi doesn’t want to sign making him stay would actually be slapping him in the face. And then you have a disgruntled player in the lockerroom, a distraction. And then after all that, he leaves in 2010 and receive nothing in compensation.
Try to sign him to long-term. If it becomes evident that’s not possible, trade for draft picks in this year’s draft and fill other needs.
This is the price of losing. When teams lose like the Raiders have, it becomes harder to attract and keep players.
THEY ARE WHO WE KNOW THEY ARE….31ST AGAINST THE RUN!
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Hey Pete,
That was a classic line about “kiffie”—at least Cable is an adult..HAHA!!
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:47 pm
I have not been a believer in Cable, but now that it’s apparent he’s the coach what can you do but back him and hope you were wrong?
Cable’s the guy? Get ‘er done, Tommy.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:48 pm
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:48 pm
The Autumn Wind is a pirate
Blustering in from sea
With a rollicking song he sweeps along
swaggering boisterously
His face is weather beaten
He wears a hooded sash
With his silver hat about his head
And a bristly black moustache
He growls as he storms the country
A villain big and bold
And the trees all shake and quiver and quake
As he robs them of their gold
The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He’ll knock you ’round and upside down
And laugh when he’s conquered and won.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:49 pm
I’d rather have the real Larry the Cable guy instead of Tom Cable.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:49 pm
At least we’d have funny press conferences after the 12 losses.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Tommy Kelly should be moved back to the defensive end position. He played well at defensive end and that’s where his reputation developed. Plus it will improve the run defense on the outside. Can always bring in Trevor Scott during 3rd and longs.
At defensive tackle, Kelly just hasn’t made the type of impact that was expected.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:52 pm
MR still can’t come up with anything original….
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Chris in NY says,
He’ll knock you ’round and upside down
And laugh when he’s conquered and won.
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Not with this defensive line!
THEY ARE WHO WE KNOW THEY ARE….31ST AGAINST THE RUN!
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Forget Crabtree and get a monster, Kenny Britt. Period!!!! Hey 408!
FREE DIRTY!
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:57 pm
LOL. I didn’t know there were judges here rewarding on originality. If there were, where would the geniuses justifying Al Davis’s poor decisions, and the poor kids in denial discussing draft picks that they’re convinced can help us, stand on originality? Hate to say it, but there’s nothing original about THE RAIDERS. It’s just the same old, poorly ran franchise under Al Davis.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:59 pm
BIG EASY Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:31 pm
AL makes me luagh..he needs to be charcter on Southpark or Family guy or Simsons because this is ridiculous
Dr.Phil would shoot AL in the head with a bazzooka
^^^LOL….i’m telling you the old man is the Emperor from the star wars movies….
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:01 pm
i forget who it was… but someone came up with a suggestion over the weekend…
go back to a 3-4 defence…
taking Maualuga in the 1st, my boy Jaspar Brinkley in the 4th…
Brace in the 2nd…
it would make sense under these circumstances to deal Trevor Scott… and i believe we could get a 2nd for him… he had minimal playing time, is not a 3-4 end, had 5 sacks… better than any other rookie including Long, Gholston…
yeah… this could be very good…
oh, sorry if i mentioned raider football in a blog devoted to… uh… i forget…
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:01 pm
It’s official, The Cable man is the Raiders HC. Just got an email from my season tix rep saying:
“As a loyal Raiders Season Ticket Holder, we want you to be the first to know that Tom Cable has been officially named Head Coach of The Oakland Raiders. Coach Cable will be formally named during a press conference on February 4th, 2009 at the Raiders’ facility in Alameda.”
A similar message is on Raiders.com.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:03 pm
i really hopes he proves me wrong…….that’s all i can say
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:05 pm
E Mail them back, RaiderMight, and ask for a refund on your tickets.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:05 pm
are you sure the press conference isnt going to be held in the hospital where al davis is…lol
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:05 pm
BIG EASY Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Dr.Phil would shoot AL in the head with a bazzooka
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Dr Phil ???? uh, somehow incurring doctor phil’s wrath strikes me as a good thing…
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Florida Pete,
The Raiders aren’t going to a 3-4 defense. Davis stopped Ryan for doing it and I doubt he will go back to it.
Have to deal with the system in place and that’s the 4-3 bump and run defense.
The top priority has to be stopping the freekn run. No team can win without stopping the run and having dlineman that can play on the other side of the line of scrimmage.
Move Kelly back to defensive end
Draft Raji and Brace to shore up the middle
Draft a middle linebacker and kick Morrison to SLB
The run defense is improved from this mess right now
THEY ARE WHO WE KNOW THEY ARE….31ST AGAINST THE RUN!
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Why not hope for something more likely to happen, p’doffRaider? I hope Al Davis gets indicted for some huge ponzi scheme before the draft, and Davis is forced to give control of the team to one of the McGah’s. Crazy as that sounds, it’s more likely to happen than Cable turning it around.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Herrera has it nice, man. Gets paid probably 6 figures a year to plug in a projector.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:09 pm
or maybe they should test al davis for steroids…..maybe they’ll find something in that old body and ban him for life from the nfl.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:10 pm
S&B – Nation Collective Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Florida Pete,
The Raiders aren’t going to a 3-4 defense. Davis stopped Ryan for doing it and I doubt he will go back to it.
Have to deal with the system in place and that’s the 4-3 bump and run defense.
The top priority has to be stopping the freekn run. No team can win without stopping the run and having dlineman that can play on the other side of the line of scrimmage.
Move Kelly back to defensive end
Draft Raji and Brace to shore up the middle
Draft a middle linebacker and kick Morrison to SLB
The run defense is improved from this mess right now
THEY ARE WHO WE KNOW THEY ARE….31ST AGAINST THE RUN!
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hey man… that’s my best idea to a tee…
just trying to move the discussion away from:
Al sucks… Al bites… Cable sucks… Cable bites… Kiffie rules… Al should die… Kiffie was the best thing to happen to the Raiders since, uh, Al Davis…
just thought i’d throw out something new to talk about…
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:15 pm
So Jerry says Noon, and Raiders.com say 1:15…oh well, don’t matter…
Now that the coach is out of the way (finally!!!) now we can all cincentrate on the offseason. Haven’t watched too many college games this year, so I would not know who is out there and I really don’t know who’s out there for FA. But…I don’t think I want Haynesworth here. Maybe its because he won’t take a hometeam cut to stay in Tenn, or the fact that he stomped on a players head when that player was on the ground. With that attitide and the attention that he has brought on himself, in Silver and Black, he probably will be banned.
Anyways…what should we draft for and what should we look into FA for? (Meaning, what would be better).
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:20 pm
I think Al Davis does take steroids, to keep his hair from falling in front of his face.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:23 pm
MaddenRaider Says:
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:20 pm
I think Al Davis does take steroids, to keep his hair from falling in front of his face.
Yeah, but he still looks like Montgomery Burns…take a look back at the the picture that was taken when he introduced Kiff as the coach. The one where he was snapping at Nancy Gay…too funny.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:45 pm
In case anyone missed it.
From PFT:
Sources: Raiders To Name Coordinators
Ted Tollner, a former longtime NFL and college coach, is expected to be named offensive coordinator of the Oakland Raiders, according to National Football Post sources. In addition, the Raiders are also likely to name John Marshall as their defensive coordinator.
Tollner, 68, has 30 years of NFL and college coaching experience and is a former San Francisco 49ers quarterbacks coach, including stints from 2002-2004 and November 2007 to January 2009. His college head coaching stops include USC and San Diego State.
Marshall, 63, spent the previous three seasons in Seattle as the Seahawks defensive coordinator. In addition, he has served as defensive coordinator for the Falcons, 49ers and Panthers.
The Raiders remain without a head coach, although interim coach Tom Cable is expected to retain the title.
More on this story as it develops.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Wow cable great couldnt get anybody everyone in here talking like cables great im writting youre names down and you better stick by barney ruble. I cant wait my two worst fears coming true first cables back and mark my words justin fargas will be the no. 1 back and will proablly double his td production to 2. Congrats fargas you have passed dorsett, harvey williams, rickey dudley, and my all-time most hated Raider marc wilson youre no 1 dude. Ill hope for the best but am resolved to seeing fargas get 3yrds on 3&4 or not catch passes . Worst coach rb and hc tandem in the nfl and dont say trade fargas what would you get nothing!
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Draft trees, i mean tackles as big as trees. Bring in Boldin, Bart Scott, and quit f@ckin around already. Our interior lineman need big bodies around them, this combo just ain’t gettin it Al. Pass protection and a stout defense up front is where we need to focus. Forget Crabtree, he will not make an impact for a year or 2, draft tackles now dammit!
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
How can we tlak about something new- whn its smae ol Raiders run by same ol senile ego maniac DAVIS??
were going to start talking draft picks now? how out a DB LOL
Or a thin speedy fragile WR
Go VOLS ( thats gota bug someone here..lol) the vols will have a bteer recored than the Raiders thats for sure.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:56 pm
I type is good as al picks personal and coaches.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:56 pm
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February 3rd, 2009 at 6:32 pm
most of you guys are a bunch of cry baby’s we don’t know what will happen next year for one he wants to be here i like cable so give the friggin chance and if you are a real RAIDERS fan you know this team is ready to kick ass silver and black for life
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
hey big sleasy the vols won’t winn 6 games with kiffin
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Tollner, 68
Marshall, 63
Hackett, 61
Bringing in some young talent, eh Al? Hopefully at the press conference you remember to explain to the players on the team why this coaching staff is good for them, because if I was one of them, I’d be feeling pretty rotten about now.
At least they seem to like Cable, who at age 44 must be considered a young buck.
I’m not ready to throw the towel in yet, but this just reeks of the same old thing. Hopefully Tom and Al will prove us wrong.
February 3rd, 2009 at 7:05 pm
We need to draft an offensive tackle or a defensive end in the first round. We won’t win until we start drafting linemen in the first round.
February 3rd, 2009 at 8:12 pm
The haters like Ratto are goning to look real stupid if AD pulls this team out of the abyss.
February 4th, 2009 at 12:01 am
Lets all be pretend owners, coaches, players…like we can do so much better, especially at Al’s age. He is a legend and unfortunately for some of you he still controls the team. Don’t worry all you whiners, he’ll be gone eventually. If you absolutely have to be a fan of a winning team every year than get a 32 pack of Jerseys-you can swap at will. Or maybe the Steelers will do it for you. For me, I’m a long time Raiders Fan, one Sunday, back in 78 it was way too cold to play so I watched a game. Hooked within an hour. Almost lost hope briefly before we got Gannon. It’s hard watching pieces from the puzzle missing while the strong parts of the team get old. All those whiners now forget how we struggled before our last rise. For *%^# sakes man, It’s time to sit back and enjoy the anticipation of another season. I was convinced two years ago that our lack of a run defence had much to do with time of possession more than an actual failing of Al’s/Ryan’s players & system. I’ve obviously realized that it goes beyond that but that is not insurmountable -a couple more draft picks possibly a free agent or two, A DT to anchor the line, Kelly 2nd, Sands & Warren in reserve. A strong MLB is needed with Howard and Morrisson playing on the outside. One Solid OT in the draft(1st pls), another center or versatile lineman in later rounds. And one receiver obviously….hang on to Asomugha, Burgess will be healthy, rookie Scott looks good, we lack size on the ends but maybe a good DT can make up for it. Anyway, I’ll shut up now…Go raiders..and Ratto is obviously a moron, why don’t cha switch to the Broncos
February 4th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
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