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Report: Bush being shopped

According to Pewterreport.com, the Raiders are shopping running back Michael Bush.

(Be patient with the link _ some web sites are moving extremely slow or shutting down because of heavy traffic.)

The Bucs, victims of a 177-yard rushing effort by Bush in the season finale, are said to be interested.

Got a call on this last night, asking about the possibility, and my response was that it seemed unlikely for the following reasons.

– Bush is a bargain, earning $460,000 this year and $550,000 in 2010. The Raiders like to think they got a first-round talent at a fourth-round price, and would be more likely to offload a higher-priced back such as Justin Fargas.

– The Raiders plan to run the ball as much or more than they did last year. They needed all three runners in 2008. No reason to think they won’t need them all in 2009.

– Darren McFadden was less than durable as a rookie. Could be a freak occurance, but you don’t know for sure until he carries 200-plus times and catches 60-plus passes in a 16-game season.

That makes Bush all the more valuable.

If you’re looking for reasons how a Bush deal could be possible, consider the following:

– When Bush was asked to put in some time at fullback because of injuries to Oren O’Neal and Justin Griffith, his response was less than enthusiastic.

He could have looked at it as a chance to broaden his game, catch some passes and maybe even have some plays put in to make his of his skills that went beyond blocking. Instead, he was resistant.

– At the press conference announcing the hire of Tom Cable, when owner Al Davis talked about the group of running backs, he talked about “four” quality runners.

That would indicate that he likes Louis Rankin. Enough to part with Bush? Seems unlikely.

– The Raiders are simply fishing and hope to reel in a big one. What if a team liked Bush enough to offer a first-round draft pick, or a high second?

If no offer were to surface, no big deal.

With the Raiders, you seldom rule out anything without careful consideration. As far as the possibility Bush is actually traded, let’s say I’m skeptical.

In other developments, a source close to guard Cooper Carlisle said he is lining up visits and will start in the south. Carlisle went to college in Florida.

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  • http://none Raider Dogg

    What it dizoo?

  • Lyle Alzados Grave

    Post 195 Sure thing? we know there are only 3 things in life that are sure Death, Taxes, and the Patriots and Steelers getting all the breaks. I will take a possible “POTENTIAL” D-Tackle or D-end in the first rather then a guy who had a major injury in college and refused to play a position the coaches asked him to play in a desperate situation.

  • VT Raider

    Losing Bush would be a mistake. We have as close to a known commodity as you can get and you’d rather get draft picks or someone elses more expensive players who may not work in our system? Fargas’ running style means he’ll miss multiple games every year, plus a shortened career and McFadden hasn’t proven his durability or talent.

    As for Bush not being enthusiastic about being asked to take reps at FB, would you in his position? He got drafted and wasn’t able to play, got buried in the quagmire and was witness to the 3 ring Raider circus. Anyone would have been frustrated. had he not been injured we never would have been able to sniff his jock let alone draft him. He was the gift of that draft. I just wish we hadn’t been in the position to draft McFadden. Bush would have been more than fine as our RB.

  • Lyle Alzados Grave

    Post 192 Sure thing? we know there are only 3 things in life that are sure Death, Taxes, and the Patriots and Steelers getting all the breaks. I will take a possible “POTENTIAL” D-Tackle or D-end in the first rather then a guy who had a major injury in college and refused to play a position the coaches asked him to play in a desperate situation.

  • LAto theBay

    what up, VR?

    I don’t know how much longer the man-crush lasts. Fargas is a shing example of work ethic and loyalty. I think most, if not all, can agree with that much.

    However, his health issues and lack of production is no secret. If they keep Bush on the roster, hes carrying the load by midseason, no matter where he begins it on the depth chart.

  • RaiderDogg

    Dawkins just signed with Denver

    Hey fake Raider Dogg, what the hell is “dizoo”?

  • http://none MaddenRaider

    I want someone to google my brown hole. That’s what it means right?

  • Dakota

    Vegas,

    First, If after the TB game Bush is still behind Fargas on the depth chart then someone needs to be executed.

    Secondly, how are you going to feel when you turn on NFL Network next season and watch highlights of Bush scoring TDs for TB every Sunday while our second or third round pick that we got for him is nowhere to be seen?

    We know Bush is good, can the same be said of some second or third round pick? Al’s draft history isn’t exactly stellar, so when he gets a good one like Bush he really should hold on to him.

  • http://none Raider Nation 951

    LA

    They took LB K. Rivers in the 1st last year @ 9 I think it was, so I dont think WR is out of the question if one of the big OT’s aren’t there.

  • http://www.dontbotherresponding.com Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Rolle may be a bit slow for a safety, but he would sure help the run D. We could sit him on passing downs, but playing essentially a 4-4-3 on run downs looks solid to me. I think he still has a lot left to offer.

  • http://contracostatimes L.A.RAIDER

    man i hope we’re not trading bush, we should build around him and mcfadden, leaving fargas the odd man out. but jmac is right, i think we’ll need all three. you’ll at least have to get a 2nd for bush to even consider trading him

  • LAto theBay

    209

    Certainy not out of the question.

    I can’t see any likely scenario Crabtrees still there @7. Even with WR taken care of, its hard to pass up (arguably) the best player in the draft, despite his stress fracture.

    I really see Curry, Crabs, and Jenkins gone.

    Boils down to Raji/Orakpo, IMO, whoevers there.

    But you never know.

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    Yeah, I see Bush as the starter next year.

  • http://www.dontbotherresponding.com Bo Schembechler Jackson

    CORRECTION on 210, I meant Cato June not Rolle.

  • LAto theBay

    KoolKell Says:
    February 27th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
    Yeah, I see Bush as the starter next year.

    Which team?

  • http://none Raider Nation 951

    Hopefully Raji is gone too. Orakpo isn’t a real need. I think they need to take a need at 7.

  • La Milicia Negra

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    February 27th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    Rolle may be a bit slow for a safety, but he would sure help the run D. We could sit him on passing downs, but playing essentially a 4-4-3 on run downs looks solid to me. I think he still has a lot left to offer.
    ____________________________________________________

    thanks!

  • Dakota

    Save the Raiders! Someone go Tanya Harding on Fargas’ knee before Al trades Bush!!!!

    (just kidding authorities)

  • La Milicia Negra

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    February 27th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    CORRECTION on 210, I meant Cato June not Rolle.
    ___________________________________________________

    I totally disagree LOL

  • LAto theBay

    Raider Nation 951 Says:
    February 27th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
    Hopefully Raji is gone too. Orakpo isn’t a real need. I think they need to take a need at 7.

    If DLine isn’t a need, I don’t know what is.

    What you see @#7?

    OLine? I don’t know that we draft a RT that high. C and G not worthy of that pick, either.

    Orakpos a beast.

  • Voldemort

    This is rediculous. I hope we don’t trade him, but Al is crazy. I doubt we do it for anything less than a first round pick though, or maybe a really high second.

  • RaiderTay

    Where did you see that Dawkins signed w/ the Broncos?

  • La Milicia Negra

    Dawkins to Broncos

    Get used to dealing with hard-hitting safety Brian Dawkins twice a year: he just agreed to a deal with the Broncos, a league source said, bringing some muscle to the mostly athletic AFC West.

    The perrenial Pro Bowler is 35 but should have another year or two in the tank. He’s the sort of tough and on-target safety the Raiders have been missing for years. As it turns out, they won’t have a chance of signing him now.

    Posted By: David White (Email) | February 27 2009 at 01:27 PM

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    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    February 27th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
    Rolle may be a bit slow for a safety, but he would sure help the run D. We could sit him on passing downs, but playing essentially a 4-4-3 on run downs looks solid to me. I think he still has a lot left to offer.

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    February 27th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
    CORRECTION on 210, I meant Cato June not Rolle.

    ..
    la missy says june is to slow and old..so that idea is worthless..also rolle has never been a great tackler, he would be like michael huff at ss..nice try la missy your wrong again.. bo dont try to defend your buddy..your a fool if you do..
    ________________________________________________________thanks!

  • blackdeath29

    david white of the chronicle says great with trading bush for a second round pick.i disagree i want at least a first rounder.he also says the raiders are still trying to resign groove,drew carter and ekejiuba.

  • La Milicia Negra

    –”A deal between the Rams and C/G Jason Brown is reportedly “imminent.” No other details are available. We had Brown ranked as the number two overall free agent available, so clearly we think it’s a great potential move. Especially for Steven Jackson.”—

    Dammit, we lose AGAAAAIN… :/

  • RaiderDogg

    RaiderTay Says:
    February 27th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
    Where did you see that Dawkins signed w/ the Broncos?”

    Brian Dawkins Signs in Denver
    Friday, February 27, 2009
    Posted By Mike Florio 4:38 PM
    After 13 years with the Eagles, safety Brian Dawkins will have a new home.

    David White of the San Francisco Chronicle reports that Dawkins has agreed to terms with the Broncos.

    Dawkins, 35, had said during the season that he thought he’d work out a deal to end his career in Philly. It could still happen, but only after a stint with the Broncos.

  • 909raiderlifer

    Just heard some dude from the Pewter Report, on the local sports talk. He made NO mention of Bush being “shopped” by the Raiders. Did say, the word around the campfire is, that the Bucs gave up a 2nd. & a 5th. for Winslow jr.

    Bush ain’t going anywhere. imo.

  • LAto theBay

    wow, Denver’s defensive backfield shaping up to be older than our offensive coaching staff…

    Denver does have a lot of cap space, and I think 8 or picks in the draft this year, but I have a feeling their D will not improve much from last year.

  • vegas raider

    LatotheBay,

    With all three backs injury history we may see all three get multiple starts next year. With Bush’s contract the way it is, he has the most “trade value”, so that is why Al would be shopping him. Nothing wrong with throwing it out there to see what you might get, although Bush might get a little butt-hurt. Unfortunately, the NFL is a business and this is clearly a football-related-business move.

    Dakota,

    I don’t agree with it, I’m just stating the facts. We are stuck with Fargas and his inexplicable leaps. Enjoy the show.

  • La Milicia Negra

    Vilma re-signed with Saints… so no help at MLB from there..

  • http://www.dontbotherresponding.com Bo Schembechler Jackson

    I have no worries about Dawkins gonig to the Donks. They are rebuilding with new coaches, and by the time they get competitive he will be long gone. I’d rather have them play Dawkins than develop a young stud safety who will be around when/if Denver improves.

  • Dane Wright

    What the Raiders should do is try trading him to Arizona for Aquan Boldin.

  • La Milicia Negra

    BSJ..

    remember what people was saying about ATL and MIA??

  • LAto theBay

    VR: With all three backs injury history we may see all three get multiple starts next year.

    Then why shop Bush?

    We’re going to create yet another need.

    I realize hes the most tradeable one, hes good and we got him for peanuts.

  • 909raiderlifer

    Dakota…

    How about D.J. Mbenga getting loose last night??

  • LAto theBay

    Whats the deal, Jerry, lets get some news.

    –”A deal between the Rams and C/G Jason Brown is reportedly “imminent.” No other details are available. We had Brown ranked as the number two overall free agent available, so clearly we think it’s a great potential move. Especially for Steven Jackson.”—

    Grove Time.

  • http://www.dontbotherresponding.com Bo Schembechler Jackson

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    February 27th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
    BSJ..

    remember what people was saying about ATL and MIA??

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    ATL and MIA did not have the schedule that Denver (and Oakland) will face next year. I just can’t see their defense turning it around that quickly. If you can, please eat some sh!t.

  • http://www.pillpopper.com Norco Bob

    Hey peeps,…so far so good, no free agent signings,..my hope is we dont sign a single free agent this year. Not one. Signing a bunch has certainly done nothing but help us lose,..so signing none is a great idea.

  • http://. Coach on Wheels

    The youth movement likely will mean more Bush next year. Keeping Fargas is good in that he still works hard even if guys start ahead of him. DMAC is not an every down pounder.

    They said they want to add some more power running to the mix next year. None of their RBs are more suited than Bush.

    I wouldn’t be shocked to see the young guns line-up next year.

    QB – Russell
    HB – Bush
    FB – ONeal
    3DRB / Slot guy / change-up – DMAC
    TE – Miller
    WR – Higgins / Chazz
    LT – Henderson
    LG – Gallery (not so young)

    Find a FA / Draft RT, RG and C and you can have the components of a solid offense for years.

    As for the run D….well, we better have a good offense.

  • vegas raider

    LatotheBay,

    We agree here, I wouldn’t trade him. Just trying to make some sense of the non-sense. Aghhh….that’s the life as a Raider fan lately.

  • http://www.pillpopper.com Norco Bob

    I like Grove,…my bro brien hates him for sure,..we disagree on that one.

  • Lyle Alzados Grave

    Keep signing all these “veteran” players Denver Cue the mirror.how did that work out for us?and the Jets,Saints,Cowboys etc Build your team in the draft like the teams that win EVERY year

  • http://flickr.com/photos/skew-t/166654980/ BART Bridge Blues

    Oh well, Jason Brown would have been great, but looks like we will still need to go after Mack, Unger or Wood

  • La Milicia Negra

    BSJ

    “If you can, please eat some sh!t.” No thanks, but I fear them a helluva lot more this year than i did last year! they are still the team closest to the Playoffs..

    it doesnt matter what schedule they have, we have the same teams, it all matters how ts in the division, and Denver as of now the strongest, at least on paper, IMO..

    but no thanks, I pass on the sh!t, im full of the things ive been reading here today =)

  • http://www.pillpopper.com Norco Bob

    Jerry Mac quating that pewter website is a joke,..Jerry has really fallen off lately, Jerry gets most of his drivel these days from PFT,..now Pewter,…Jerry doesnt travel with team anymore, because they dont like him,..and doesnt even attend all home games,…Jerry shouldnt even have this blog, this blog should be operated by Corkran or someone more legit.

  • La Milicia Negra

    BBB…

    …or Caldwell =)

  • Dakota

    909raiderlifer Says:
    February 27th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
    Dakota…

    How about D.J. Mbenga getting loose last night??
    _______________________________

    Yeah, he was energetic…thought he was going to karate chop Sasha for a minute there.

  • darkknight01

    # blackdeath29 Says:
    February 27th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    david white of the chronicle says great with trading bush for a second round pick.i disagree i want at least a first rounder.he also says the raiders are still trying to resign groove,drew carter and ekejiuba.

    ^^^They need to resign Baker, Isiah and Alston for sure.

  • Swissraider

    Everything comes down to the draft, because free agency means overpaying and we don’t got the cap room to pay anybody except our draft picks. Draft a OT, LB DT and DE with our first four picks and we’re ready to go for next season.

    Sucks that B-Dawk plays for the Donks now, I really like(d) him.