Raiders’ inaction is a good thing
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, March 8th, 2009 at 3:38 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Taking the better part of two days off with sore throat and slight fever, which works out perfectly because the Raiders haven’t done much of anything either.
And they’re to be praised for it.
In short, this is the best thought-out offseason of the last six years. One year after approaching February and March like the Washington Redskins, the Raiders are making choices as if they were the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Lock up your own best players, avoid the high-ticket free agents, stray from head-cases and malcontents.
On second-tier free agents, play the market, get the price you like, then strike. There’s no reason to believe the Raiders have lost a single player they wanted to keep (they had no intention of paying Jake Grove $14 million in guarantees) or have missed out on anyone on the outside they wanted to sign.
Kevin Burnett, Duke Preston, Melvin Fowler, Kyle Boller . . . most of the players that have made their way through the facility are still out there, and they’re getting cheaper all the time.
The only sign of possible contention between Al Davis and Tom Cable has been the courtship of Khalif Barnes. There is information from both sides which suggests Cable wanted Barnes aboard.
A couple of things:
1) Barnes hasn’t been signed yet, so it’s not over until he does.
2) If Davis has reasons for holding back on Barnes, who had a poor season last year and missed one start (he came in late) because of a team rules violation, that’s not necessarily a bad thing.
As many good things as I’ve written about Cable as an assistant coach and with what he did cleaning up the Lane Kiffin-Davis mess to end the season with some promise, his decision to make the hard sell on Kwame Harris and then stick with him was his biggest mistake.
Before I get back to what I hope is the rest of Sunday off, the least I can do is give you a new thread . . .
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March 8th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
first.hell yea. go raiders
March 8th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Best finish yet…..second
March 8th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
3rd
March 8th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
4th.
Are we on are way back up to the top? Things sure are looking good.. With a solid and “smart” draft this could be a very productive offseaon, of the likes we haven’t seen a long time.
March 8th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Noted.
March 8th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
A-Rods cist was caused from excessive steroid use.
March 8th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
I still hope the Oakland Raiders Land Boller, he is the next long term solution at qb for us, hes Gannon.
March 8th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
so glad t.o. went ANYWHERE but here. feel better, jerry!
March 8th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
T-O has B-O,..I coinded that phrase, the Dawg Pound stole it.
March 8th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Jerry,
Sorry to complain about your inactivity over the weekend…its only a reflection of our passion for the Raiders and your important role in keeping us up to date.
An uneventful thread is still a theread. Get helfy.
March 8th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
thanks Jerry & hope you feel better.
March 8th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
I for one done wantthat dude Barnes, the people in Jax are saying hes a bum, worse then Kwame even,…just draft best LT on board in the draft,..whoever Mel Jr says is best is good enough for me.
March 8th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Bo, you are sure a sweet guy, Im sure Jerry feels better now that you kissed his hand.
March 8th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Next best move they could make: trade down and get more picks.
March 8th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Trading down is for sissies.
March 8th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Jerry,
Don’t know if you’ll read this, but I have been a Raider fan for the past 32 years or so…I value your insight to the Raiders so much I check it every day and most times two to three times a day.
Missed you and glad you are back, please take care of yourself.
Gracias!
March 8th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
The only OL the Buffalo Bills kept from last season is Langston Walker. Now they rescued the rest of the world from having to tolerate having T.O. on their team. Buffalo is the next Detroit.
March 8th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Always liked you Jerry. Always will.
March 8th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
yes nation the inactivity of our beloved raiders is a blessing. I couldnt believe people were actually thinking that bring T.NO here would be a good idea, thank you davis for keeping your pen in your pocket. We dont need to sign no premadonas or free agent stiffs out there that wont help the team
March 8th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Yeah we haven’t had a winning season in 6yrs so hell yeah don’t bring any good players. The way people talk you thought we were 12-4 last year not 5-11 . My biggest worry is again big al ignores the line with his first pick.
March 8th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Kind of have to agree with Jerry Mac on this one. Al showing some restraint this year after spending money like a drunken sailor last year, is a nice departure.
I sure thought Al would take a swing at T.O. Good to know he is Buffalo’s headache now.
Don’t forget, that the three most important moves Al has made were in house.
1.) Keeping Cable as coach. Liked what I saw at the end of last year, the team could have mailed it in, Cable wouldn’t let them do that.
2.) Keeping Aso. The best at his position.
3.) Keeping Shane. See Above.
Having said all that, I’m sure Al will do something soon to make us all say “WTF what was Al thinking?”
March 8th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Flashback to the March 2008 archives Raiders were praised for having the west’s best offseason. With their bold moves. Now we are great because we aren’t making the big moves?
The wasted money last season makes it impossible to bring in the big talents this team needs. 6 losing seasons and some people are happy no matter what the worst front office in the NFL does. This will be the year Davis gets it right though I can feel it.
March 8th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
I am glad for no activity, but I must admit I always feel like a kid a Christmas when we sign a new player. Aso and Lechler are great re-gifts.
March 8th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Jerry Mac..
Thanks, for playing hurt and giving us a FIX.
Might, I recommend:
2oz. Bourbon.
1/2tsp. Honey.
Squeeze of lemon.
Stir.
Heat, 15-20 seconds in the microwave. MAKE SURE IT ISN’T TO HOT!!
Shoot it down. Repeat as necessary.
You may still feel like crap tomorrow, but you will feel better TONIGHT!
Get well soon, Jerry.
March 8th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
with deference to Jason Whitlock, just because a stripper comes on to you, you don’t have to marry her. the Buffies liked the boob job on a WR, divorce is only a matter of months away.
good for da Raiduhs to be circumspect and patient. Yay.
March 8th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Echinacea works wonders for viruses, look for 70% extract in alcohol.
March 8th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
So if it comes down to the choice for the Raiders @ #7 of:
A) Crabtree
B) Munroe/J Smith
C) BJ Raji
Who would you like the Raiders to take? Good arguements for all 3, (and consider if Orapko is left on the board) which way do the Raiders go??
March 8th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
M…
What can I say? I’m Irish. We ALWAYS use booze as a remedy….lol.
March 8th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Barnes ..if he wants too much just let him walk
bring in marvel smith of pitt.. if he is healthy..he a much better guy than barnes who could be a distraction…
if al can bring in a veteran Wr then draft one i feel the offense is pretty solid…
March 8th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
What are the chances of trading # 7 to Philly for 21 and 28??
WR @ 21
Mack @ 28???
Would the eagles be tempted? What would we offer? Anything more than # 7 (besides Fargas and a bag of footballs)
March 8th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
In regard to my previous post stating all of our (percieved) needs, my goal was to point out that the process of prioritizing our needs is purely subjective, and not necessarilly capable of being done through pure logic, as much as we all like to prove how logical we are.
However, since everyone essentially has time to kill, at least in regards to Raiders football news, until the draft, I might as well jump aboard in terms of airing my opinions as to what the significance of our needs are.
While you may disagree with some of my analysis, or my perception of the significance of each need, I believe we can all relavtively agree that the positions I listed are our positions of need.
So here it goes:
1. LT
2. DT
3. DE
4. C
5. WR
6. OLB
7. FS
We will probably only be able to realistically fill three of these needs through the draft, so we have to balance filling the most significant needs and filling them with the best possible players, relative to the player(s) we could have by filling another need.
So, looking at the first round, specifically the top 10, the strongest positions are LT(Smith, Monroe, Oher, and Smith), WR(Crabtree and Maclin), and DE(Orakpo and Brown). There are also two apparently legitimate prospects at DT and OLB as well, but we can’t necessarily assume that those positions can be filled at #7, assuming those players re indeed the best possible fit in terms of filling our needs efficiently.
That’s the key to this draft, EFFICIENCY.
Considering how many needs we have, and our limited ability to meet them, we must prioritize so that we fill at least 3 of our top 5 needs(admitting that the designation of “top 5″ is purely subjective….but isn’t all knowledge subjective?).
March 8th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
If do not draft a WR in the first two rounds then we should take a look at Torry Holt or Joey Galloway, depending on their relative prices.
March 8th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
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March 8th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Tommy, you don’t know squat.
Last year you told us all what a good job Lane Kiffin was doing.
OOOPS!
March 8th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Roch R…
We all know, Al has a woodie for either Crabtree or Maclin.
I would rather he go after some MEAN linemen.
Al, will take a Receiver to complete the “playmaker trifecta”, to go with Russell and McSkinny. Book it.
March 8th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Tommy Trojan…
Good, to see you back. And still poking the hornets nest with a broom handle….
March 8th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
I thought we did quite well in last years draft.
If we do as well this year we could be one of the better teams in the league in 2 years.
Our perception that inactivity is a good thing is only because of last year. And I’m not saying that it’s not a good thing I’m just saying it’s not fact.
In the end we just want to win and if this works out then everyone will say this was smart. If it doesn’t then they’ll cry and whine as always.
Just win baby!……….that’a ll that matters.
March 8th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Anyone wanna write a 7 page lab report about Transducion of genes into bacteria via P22 phage??? Its due at 9am LOL
March 8th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
The Raider will be one of the best team in the NFL in 2 years?? LOL!!
Good draft last year?? How so?
March 8th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Kwame Harris may be able to help with that, JT52. Stanford grad, currently unemployed…
Email him at turnstile@wasteofcash.com
March 8th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
That doesnt mean anything unless he got a bio degree lol
March 8th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Am I missing something. Why on a lot of these mock drafts to they have the Jags drafting ahead of us in the 2nd round on. I figured it was just a mistake but I’m seeing it on ALL of them.
March 8th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Yeah , i did say it and I do think we can be in the top 10 teams in the league in 2years. If Russell continues to develope and weapons such as DMC Mbush the wr’s a get better. While the line is patchwork now that can change with a few smart moves that pay off.
My contentions is that the major pieces are already there. Yes we need some key additions but really we need guy’s who are already in place to deliver.
Everthing we say we need is based on perception……….period If Shield is as good as I think he is, and Walker decides to play to his talent. Then the idea that we need a WR is just an idea.
I think our biggest need is a pass rusher contrary to popular beliefs. Stopping the run is tricky when you get to focused on it.
If we score 25 points again for instance (just bare with me). Few teams will have the luxury to run at us. They will be forced out of the comfort zone. Most big runs occur late in games and if you’re 10+ points up opponents have to throw. That’s why a pass rusher is IMO of utmost importance. Wether we can score 25 or not we need to get the field on 3rd down in order to win games…………period.
March 8th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
2007 was a good draft. 2008, nah, i dont think so
March 8th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
I think we should get an edge rusher early and late in this draft. If we go Oline 1st we need o get an edge rusher in the 2nd or vice-versa.
March 8th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Oline is not as big of an issue as people originally think we do. We saw some youth fill in admirally at the end of the season. We need to use this season to let them run with the job and see what we have in them.(Henderson,JLH,Chaz, and Arman Shields) So we need to see what Mario Henderson can do at LT with a season under his belt. He went against some of the best DE’s and held his ground. The offence improved dramatically with henderson in. He didn’t get much TE help because Miller usually lined up to the right side, and he was the main recipent of passes all season. We get a RT in the 3rd round. We don’t take Raji, we need a NT. He’s a UT. Same as Kelly. Unless him or sands gets the boot, we don’t go Dline in the first. DE is a possability, but I don’t see all going for one though. I want to see the raiders develope Jay Richardson. He’s been good against the run, just needs to improve his pass rushing skills. Greyson Gunhiem and Trevor Scott have another year to develop under Burguess and Richardson. Also keep in mind, this year is a contract year for Burguess. So he’s highly motivated to have a break out year, just in time in Free Agency. So I think it Al go goes for the “trifecta”. I don’t blame him. I only hope he takes Crabtree over Maclin. Go for mack in the second and try to fill our other needs through out the draft.
March 8th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
say why you don’t think so.. or don’t you know?
March 8th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
BHP, i would also like to go DL in the first round. We have enough small speedy DE, lets get one of those big DE that can bullrush and anchor against the run…
March 8th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Yeah if you look back at the draft selections, if you consider some of the busts, and late developers, Gallery not the LT advertised, Grove 2nd round bust, Even Walter out of Arizona, was in the mold to have the potential of Flacco type player, Huff, if you look at the selections over the last while, you can see a method to the AD madness, and somethings haven’t gone his way, but I think he has reloaded, and this is a team poised to be in the running for the next regime of elite teams. (Sorry Pats fans, the dynasty is in the twilight years.)
March 8th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
The more I think of the Raiders potential pick vs the situation, the more I like Orapko.
I think Raji is this years Dorsey.
March 8th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
And I hope AD does something to get either Mack or Unger with the second pick, that being said, that’s why I like the idea of trading # 7 for Phi two 1st round picks, allows for two quality position players, one of which is assured to be Mack.
March 8th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
4. Mcfadden 784 total yds, 4 tds… blah
100.Tyvon Branch…8 games, 10 tackles…blah
125. Shields…nada
169. Trevor Scott… 5 sacks. situational pass rusher, great value pick
226. Schilens…15 recs for 226, 2 tds, I dont think he would be playing for any other team.
so, 1 starter (Mcfadden), the rest of the guys, I dont think theyll develop into starters
March 8th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Then address a replacement for Cornell Green in the later rounds, and FA.
March 8th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Go Raiders.
March 8th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
While I love Crabtree’s talent and would love to have this kid on our team. It’s just not our biggest need he would IMO be a luxury. IMO we must get the defense fixed first if we want to win now. I’m all for the helpon the Oline. But everytime I think of the Miami game when all we needed was a stop, the QB had too much time and completed a pass on 4th down no less.
The KC game the same thing. The Atlanta game same thing. The QB has been able to stand back there and beat us. If we don’t get that fixed.
We wont win………..period
March 8th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
2007 draft… Jamarcus, Z Miller, super mario, JLH, m bush, jay richardson, and oren oneal… not to shabby eh?
March 8th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Just as I thought, I guess they all should’ve been in the pro-bowl right? whew !! another beauty!
March 8th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Good evening,
JT55, I can sympathize. I have my own paperwork demons to slay.
As for the draft. Here are the Raider stats that need to improve to at least average.
1. 31st ranked run defense – show me a team that wins that can’t stop the run!
2. 32nd ranked 3rd down offense – 28% on 3rd down means a lot of stalled drives and no points.
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The draft should be dedicated to finding the players that can contribute right away to improving these numbers.
1. DT/DE = Get a run stuffing DT or DE (Raji / Jackson)
2. OL/possession WR = The offense improved by playing Henderon, JLH, Schilens and Bush. Need to replace RT/C with(1st or 3rd rounder)/(Unger/Mack/Wood) and WR (Crabtree, Robiskie)
The draft should be dedicated to finding those players that can contribute RIGHT AWAY. Unfortunately, Tom Cable does not have a lot of time for development. He needs players to fill those positions on day 1 of camp.
D-Line and O-Line have a shorter learning curve than Wide Receiver. I would draft accordingly.
March 8th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Good Call BHP, we’ve made a lot of mediocre QB’s look like super stars.
But let me ask you this… Is Burgess inconsistent because of attitude? OR Are the wheels beginning to go flat? Does the fact for the first time he’s working with the team for the off season, and its a contract year give us hope for this year? How bad a shape will we be in this year in the Pass Rush dept, if we don’t do anything?
March 8th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
…going on for weeks and months and a year, and time Says:
March 8th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
4. Mcfadden 784 total yds, 4 tds… blah
100.Tyvon Branch…8 games, 10 tackles…blah
125. Shields…nada
169. Trevor Scott… 5 sacks. situational pass rusher, great value pick
226. Schilens…15 recs for 226, 2 tds, I dont think he would be playing for any other team.
so, 1 starter (Mcfadden), the rest of the guys, I dont think theyll develop into starters
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Winning teams are developed by getting starters out of second day picks. The Raiders need to exercise some patience with their mid round picks. Developing guys like Henderson, JLH, Morrison, Schilens, Shields, Scott, Bush develop into bonnafide starters will be the difference between a 12-4 team and an 8-/7-9 team.
If those players flame out, like Grove, then you become overreliant on free agents. And you know how that goes. You also end up having to waste future draft picks, like our 2nd rounder this year for a center, to correct positions that should have been fixed.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
JMHO our pass rush will be paramount in deciding wether we win now or later. I think we will score maybe as much as 20points a game. I just think we need to be able to shut teams down we need to.
Our run defense at times plays very well the problem is consistency. Burgess is a premier pass rusher IMO who’s been injured, attitude is not a problem. K Edwards realy is appointed me. Scott was hands down much better vs the run and pass. WE NEED one more dominant player on defense to get to the QB and disrupt offenses. If we can get the ball back to Russell and Co. a few more times per game I think we have a winning record by years end.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
How did Grove flame out S&B?
March 8th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Priest is my name.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Guy’s you can get a good center as late as the 6th. There will be top notch centers available in the 3rd.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Blackholepriest Says:
March 8th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
JMHO our pass rush will be paramount in deciding wether we win now or later. I think we will score maybe as much as 20points a game. I just think we need to be able to shut teams down we need to.
OUR pass rush? I think WE will score? You have a mouse in YOUR pocket pedophile priest or are you just happy to see me?
March 8th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Blackholepriest says,
Our run defense at times plays very well the problem is consistency. Burgess is a premier pass rusher IMO who’s been injured, attitude is not a problem. K Edwards realy is appointed me. Scott was hands down much better vs the run and pass. WE NEED one more dominant player on defense to get to the QB and disrupt offenses. If we can get the ball back to Russell and Co. a few more times per game I think we have a winning record by years end.
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The offense will be much more dynamic with a healthy DMAC and a better utilized Bush. Adding a better RT will cut down on the penalties which also stalls drives. I agree with your 20 point assessment. Especially if Special Teams can perform as well as last year.
As for defense the problem with that D-Line is:
1. Burgess plays over the RT and usually TE and he’s not built for that. He should be over the LT PERIOD because he is not much use against the run. Scott should spell Burgess.
2. The Raiders need a new DE on the strong side. A guy that can get to the running back and hold down his side. – Tommy Kelly or Tyson Jackson
3. The Raiders need a NT. Sands/Warren are not the force required for the position. Sands is out of shape and plays poorly and Warren is a pass rusher. They need a disrupter at NT that attracts double teams. That will free up the DEs and LBs to make plays and make it hard for opponents to run up the middle – B.J Raji
4. Raiders also need to add a DT for rotation. Only 3 on the roster.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Blackholepriest Says:
March 8th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
How did Grove flame out S&B?
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He didn’t meet the expectations of a 2nd round pick. He was injured to often and wasn’t really the Center the Raiders needed. I used him as an example because now the Raiders have to use ANOTHER high round pick to fix a position that they drafted for just a few years ago.
It would have been nice to use that 2nd round pick to get an OT, DE or WR.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Raji is not a NT and even he is a lil undersized.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
I believe the run-d stats are lopsided by the Raiders lack of ability to control the ball.
When the opposing team knows we can’t move the ball, and have a large lead in the 2nd or 3rd they tend to get conservative (except SD, DEN and NE who enjoyed running up the score) and the attempts go up along with the yard totals.
Our first down totals were terrible, and so were our stopping opposing teams when we had them in third and long situations.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Finally Jerry.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
playoffs…?playoffs? Says:
March 8th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
I believe the run-d stats are lopsided by the Raiders lack of ability to control the ball.
When the opposing team knows we can’t move the ball, and have a large lead in the 2nd or 3rd they tend to get conservative (except SD, DEN and NE who enjoyed running up the score) and the attempts go up along with the yard totals.
Our first down totals were terrible, and so were our stopping opposing teams when we had them in third and long situations.
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Nnamdi Asomugha is a big reason why teams run the ball. Chris Johnson on the other side for 16 wks and Morrison and Howard in coverage are only going to make teams more relunctant to throw the ball.
The Dolphins, Titans, Bears and Redskins are in the bottom 3rd of the league in offensive third down conversions yet their defenses are in the top 10 in rush defense.
Bad is bad and hoping for the offense to score more points is not a proactive solution to fixing this defense.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Black Hole Priest, ignore the trolls. Your post # 56 was pretty convincing. I was thinking that we should draft primarily O-Line with the first two picks and then focus on defense through FA.
However, the point is, we GAVE AWAY at least 3-4 games last year because our defense couldn’t stop anybody. Inconsistency was our problem all season. If we can shore up the defense, a healthy Mcfadden, Shields, Bush, Miller and company along with a new RT in Pears(hopefully) should win us about 3-4 more games this season.
At the same time, the fact that the defense DID show flashes of competence, just not consistently, makes one wonder…
Was it a matter of player personnel on the field, or poor coaching from Rob Ryan. That question will be answered when Marshall’s unit takes the field.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
The Raiders are playing it smart, but you’d like to see them make a few moves at some point. Especially to the d-line and o-line. Justin Miller should be brought back too.
It is looking more and more to me like Crabtree or Maclin will be the pick at No. 7. I wouldn’t argue with either choice.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
S&B you just don’t get it, there are NO NT’s that can do what you suggest. Raji is not I repeat is not the NT you seem to think he is. Haynesworth is off the market and he was IMO the only one capable of what you want. If you think Raji is better than what we have GOD BLESS ya’ I HIGHLY doubt it.
And Grove was as good a center as we needed, injuries are part of football………..period the kid can play so I don’t agree with the flame out reference at all.
You guy’s are dreaming if you think there better players in this draft. Eric Grove and maybe the kid from Oregon are better. Alex Mack IMO isn’t better than Grove you just prefer Mack because he’s not here yet, for you to criticize him. Grove IS a very goood center no matter what you guy’s think. And it was a huge loss. It’ll take a guy like Mack a year or 2 to get to that level.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
Consistency is everything though. The difference between the super star and the backup is consistency. The super star continues to make plays, the backup only flashes.
If inconsistency is rife, its time for new players/coaches. We replaced the coach!
March 8th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
I meant Eric Cross is a better player than Grove I’ll agree and maybe Unger.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
S&B I can’t tell how simplistic that is, do you have any idea how many teams are CONSISTENTLY great against the run?…………maybe TWO. You have to be able to score and compete and force the opponent to score for most teams to win.
Hell the Patriots are terrible against the run but they score so often it doesn’t matter.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
When was the last time Al traded down? Exactly. Crabtree it is at 7.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Yeah but we’ve consistently been bottom feeders against the run for the past few years. He;ll. damn near since our last Superbowl appearance. I hold Rob Ryan primarily responsible for that. Like I said, we’ll see if it was Ryan or not this season with the new DC.
Again we gave away atleast 3-4 games the last 2 seasons because of our defensive inability to close out games.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Blackholepriest,
Football is a team sport. So no 1 player is going to take a 5-11 team to 13-3.
But there is no denying that this defensive line is bad by league stats. I could understand if the run defense was 20 or so. But 31 is just about as close to worst you can get.
Raji can be a difference maker and YES he is a NT. He can play 1-gap or 2-gap. He can and does take on double teams and he’s tough against the run.
As for pass rush, the Raider defense ranked 13th in the league in sacks. That was with fewer opportunities mind you. Also that was with Burgess hurt most of the year Yet the run defense ranks 31st.
You want to fix the pass rush 1st!?! The Raiders get a guy like Raji in there and it can only help and make an immediate impact. Lineman are ready to contribute quicker than skill position players.
If the Raiders need a DE, they need a Strong Side DE that can play the run real well. Hence my pull for Tyson Jackson.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Beacuse we can’t SCORE!! DUH!!
March 8th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Kush we all know it was Ryan. With a new DC this year though we might need to give it a few years to see a change though. I am just glad Ryan is gone. That guy was a loser.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Blackholepriest Says:
March 8th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
S&B I can’t tell how simplistic that is, do you have any idea how many teams are CONSISTENTLY great against the run?…………maybe TWO. You have to be able to score and compete and force the opponent to score for most teams to win.
Hell the Patriots are terrible against the run but they score so often it doesn’t matter.
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Simplistic? Those are the numbers! That’s the result. Also, the Patriots and Colts have two of the best QBs to ever play the game. Those two QBs also have 10+ years of experience each!
What’s more likely to happen next year. Draft a couple of pieces to improve the run defense to average, or draft Michael Crabtree and transform into the Patriots or Colts.
Also, take a look at how Belicheck and Parcells draft. You will see a 1st round populated with O-Line and D-Line. Not a ton spent on skill position players.
As for Jake Grove. He was an okay Center. Not great, just okay. Dolphins elected to overpay for him and the Raiders didn’t feel it necessary to match. So a 2nd round pick from a few years ago has to be replaced with another high round pick.
Raiders are looking for starter talent at Center and DT. You don’t go to the 2nd day when looking for immediate starters. YOu go to the 1st and 2nd round.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
The fact that we’ve been bringing in OT’s and have already signed one gives reason to believe that Al and Co. are gonna go either DE or WR with the #7 pick.
The fact that Grove is gone indicates either Mack or Unger in the 2nd rd.
I could agree with that.
Add to that a solid LB in the third round, i.e. Jasper Brinkley and I say we’re on to something.
Just my opinion so far.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
S&B I just don’t Raji that way……….sorry to disgree but you see it your way and I’ll see it mine. Raji IMO is not a dominant NG. Hell Eric Cross ate him up in the senior bowl.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
BHP,
New England was average against the run. They ranked 15th. Their run defense might as well be on the Moon compared to the Raider run defense.
31st is 31st. YOu can’t run from that number. That is the sum of the accomplishment on this defense. Its an area that has to be aggressively addressed this offseason.
I will be that a Rex Ryan, Parcells or Belicheck or Jim Johnson would not put up with a 31st run defense.
And we shouldn’t either.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
I’m not sold on Raji either. But I honestly don’t know alot about the kid.
Second, I definitely think we need an upgrade or at least more depth at DT. Question is, who’s available? Tank Johnson? Somebody fill me in? Maybe Brace?
March 8th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Priest…
The Raiders currently have 3 DTs under contract. No word on re-signing Joseph.
I feel it would be a huge mistake for the Raiders to enter the season without adding a DT.
What do you think?
March 8th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Stats are just atats they don’t tell you much other #’s if that’s all you want to go on fine.
Our defense has some potential and the ability to defense the run better IMO but we must SCORE.=]
March 8th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Blackholepriest Says:
March 8th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
S&B I just don’t Raji that way……….sorry to disgree but you see it your way and I’ll see it mine. Raji IMO is not a dominant NG. Hell Eric Cross ate him up in the senior bowl.
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I can agree to disagree. I am no scouting expert. But when I see a DT that has an outside shot of going as high as 3 to K.C and I see our DT predictament, or disaster, I want that guy on this team. Sands/Warren have been give 3 yrs to get it right and the only thing we have to show for it is a 31st run defense and a big cap hit.
The pundits say Raji is the number 1 DT on the board. So I am not pulling this stuff out of thin air.
The guy is as good as any prospect in the league according to scouts and pundits.
The Raiders will be fortunate if Raji is even on the board at 7
March 8th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Kush…
I thought Al should have taken a look at Shaun Cody. He is visiting the Saints Monday.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Kush Says:
March 8th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
I’m not sold on Raji either. But I honestly don’t know alot about the kid.
Second, I definitely think we need an upgrade or at least more depth at DT. Question is, who’s available? Tank Johnson? Somebody fill me in? Maybe Brace?
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Raji is being touted as the real deal. I won’t be surprised if a Green Bay or Denver doesn’t trade up to get him. K.C, Seattle and Cincy may grab him too.
As for Tank Johnson. Isn’t he more of the same. Another washout that we hope can provide some help in Oakland. Is that really the best solution to a run defense that is the worst in the league (Lions). Plus, is he good for the locker room. At least T.O has talent!
Ron Brace won’t be there at number 2. The Raiders will most likely have to draft a Center (Unger/Mack/Wood) unless they go free agency or ride with John Wade….
March 8th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Aloha my friends!!!..hey baby let me tell you all something,…me and the turtles here in Kaanapali are getting along great!!!…had an altercation with a white tip shark in Molokini today though!!!…so any Raider news?…all we doin here is drinkin mai tai`s, pina coladas,..lots of kona brew company beers,..and holy cow the local grass, Wowie!!!!….brien if you read this bro you gotta get out here asap!…I come here every year man and its worth it thats for sure!!! aloha!!!
March 8th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Raider 75 I agree, as a 4th DT Joseph is fine and we have some young guy’s that can fill that void.
Again IMPO our biggest need is to get to the QB which says edge rusher. If we get Crabtree I’ll do cartwheels all the way down my block but it wont fill our biggest need, he’ll be a must pick because you simply can’t pass him up if he’s there. Neither can you pass up Curry or Jason Smith all three are just too valuable to pass up. If Curry and Smith are gone and Crabtree’s there.
YOU TAKE HIM……………period…………..and laugh at the fools who allowed it to happen.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Joseph is a FA and has not been re-signed.
Are there some practice squad guys they might bring up?
Are they working on something with Joseph?
March 8th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Blackholepriest Says:
March 8th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Stats are just atats they don’t tell you much other #’s if that’s all you want to go on fine.
Our defense has some potential and the ability to defense the run better IMO but we must SCORE.=]
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Team stats are actually quite telling. When you rank the worst in the league in a particular category, that’s a call to action.
Rob Ryan was not retained. Do you think if the defense was in the top 10 he would still be here? Stats are important.
The Raider defense is poor against the run. You will not find anyone to dispute that. The question, and hence debate, is how to fix it. Some think its the linebackers and they will push for Rey Rey or Brinkley. Others blame the defensive ends. And a few like myself will focus on the DTs lack of playmaking and taking on double teams to keep the LBs clean.
But its all opinion. BTW, the Raiders will be playing a lot of run 1st offenses this year. And given the strength of the secondary, run defense will loom even larger. Marion Barber, Brandon Jacobs, Clinton Portis, Ravens, Steelers….plus the usual suspects in the division….get ready
March 8th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
S&B
In WHAT league, Raji as good as any prospect in what league?………..if someone said that about NFL they’re a freakin FOOL. that kid isn’t as good as Sedrick Ellis from last year, I’ll take both DT’sfromlast year over him in a heart beat.
And I don’t give a damn what any scout says that kid while good is not nearly as dominant as you make him out to be. If he were he wuld be the unquestioned #1 overall.
S&B the Raiders have has some very talented DT’s in recent years and he is not at their level. who would you take Raji or Darrell Russell?
March 8th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
S&B (BJ Raji / Tyson Jackson @ 7 because run d is 31st) Says:
March 8th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Blackholepriest Says:
March 8th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
S&B I just don’t Raji that way……….sorry to disgree but you see it your way and I’ll see it mine. Raji IMO is not a dominant NG. Hell Eric Cross ate him up in the senior bowl.
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I can agree to disagree. I am no scouting expert. But when I see a DT that has an outside shot of going as high as 3 to K.C and I see our DT predictament, or disaster, I want that guy on this team. Sands/Warren have been give 3 yrs to get it right and the only thing we have to show for it is a 31st run defense and a big cap hit.
Well S&B you may not be a scouting expert because you are an idiot. Now me for instance I have so much pull within the Raider orginization that I know everything about football and the Raiders to brass.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Rocky Bernard was #1 on my FA list.
However, Shaun Cody was a USC standout and a 2nd round pick in 2005.
We all know the Lions can’t develop talent and bringing this guy home may bring back the fire to play at the top of his game.
Plus, Al could probably get him cheap.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
S&B
In WHAT league, Raji as good as any prospect in what league?………..if someone said that about NFL they’re a freakin FOOL. that kid isn’t as good as Sedrick Ellis from last year, I’ll take both DT’sfromlast year over him in a heart beat. Man you are just about the dumbest poster on this board. No sense in arguing with me either you little twit. I know more about the Raiders than anyone who ever posts here. You are all a bunch of idiots as far as I am concerned. Why don’t you losers get real jobs like me?
March 8th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Raiders75 (Dez Bryant for 2010) Says:
March 8th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Rocky Bernard was #1 on my FA list.
See! That’s what I mean. You guys have no idea what you are talking about. I for one am glad that Mr. Davis did not sign that loser.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
No need for name calling. Geez..
Raji is a top 10 prospect and he will be in NYC for the draft in April. Bank on it.
Could Raji be a bust? Sure he could. So could anyone in the draft…ANYONE. Crabtree could easily be a bust, Orakpo anothe workout warrior, J.Smith could be this year’s Robert Gallery.
There is no sure thing. You draft based on value and need.
Raji is a top 10 prospect and we draft #7 = VALUE
The Raiders run defense is 31st and Sands/Warren are terrible = NEED
Good Night!
March 8th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
No idea what I’m talking about?
F*CK YOU! I’m just talking football with ya Bro, but you gotta be a d*ck and insult people.
Bernard might be a loser, but not as big a loser as you.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Because NO ONE person is responsible anyone with half a brain knows that. The entire defense is responsile. Stats can show you where you should focus but they don’t tell why things are what they are. That’s what I mean.
They can show you results but they can’t explain why or how you they got to be. AS passing team has great stats in passing and maybe low stats in running but it doesn’t tell you that that is what they prefer to do. Where as a team that can’t run will have low stats because they simply can’t run. But the running stats for both teams are the same.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
S&B-those last posts weren’t Priest.as long as you have a decent conversation with him,he will have one with you.at least that has been my experience with him.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Bernard went to the Giants. You know the same unit who has been dominating on there D-line lately, but I guess they don’t know talent either.
Dumbazz!
March 8th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
* their
March 8th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
i’ve never seen Priest cut and paste before either.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
F*cking trolls. Can’t even have a decent conversation.
F*ck this place.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
S&B (BJ Raji / Tyson Jackson @ 7 because run d is 31st) Says:
March 8th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Blackholepriest Says:
March 8th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Stats are just atats they don’t tell you much other #’s if that’s all you want to go on fine.
Our defense has some potential and the ability to defense the run better IMO but we must SCORE.=]
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Team stats are actually quite telling. When you rank the worst in the league in a particular category, that’s a call to action.
Are you contradicting me? When I say something it is gospel. That’s why they call me the pedophile priest.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Too many damn kids in here playiing games, you can’t have a decent conversation w/o the petty crap that goes on in here. I didn’t call anyone names it’s this troll or hwatever you guy’scall it.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
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The mate was a mighty sailing man, the skipper brave and sure,
Five passengers set sail that day for a three hour tour,
A three hour tour
The weather started getting rough,
The tiny ship was tossed
If not for the courage of the fearless crew,
The Minnow would be lost.
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The ship set ground on the shore of this uncharted desert isle,
With Gilligan…..
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The Millionaire ….
And his wife….
The Movie star ….
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March 8th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Lefty12, because I don’t know how
Nice to see you here bro. but it’s a mess.
Adios!
March 8th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
later!
March 8th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Norco Bob Says:
March 8th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Aloha my friends!!!..hey baby let me tell you all something,…me and the turtles here in Kaanapali are getting along great!!!…had an altercation with a white tip shark in Molokini today though!!!…
Norco, could you tell if it was the one that ate Cooper?
March 8th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Priest-the little one is my friend too.hopefully he’ll have to get on to bed pretty soon.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
i’ve never seen Priest cut and paste before either. But then again I usually have my head up his anal oriphice.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Priest-the little one is my friend too.hopefully he’ll have to get on to bed pretty soon. Then I can see what thrill you get from molesting the little boy.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Lefty, I get great pleasure from molesting those little kids. After all when you have to bend over and take it like I do to get in good with the suits, it’s nice to get a little piece of tail myself once in awhile. BTW, Lefty those comments you’re always making about Gilligan’s Island and the sharks eating Cooper a really great. It’s always nice to get a good chuckle right before going to bed with one of the little people.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Troll
Are you a bed wetter also?
March 8th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
listen you little punk,in the last year and a half i lost my best friend/best man at my wedding,one of his sons(23yrs old),my mother in law and another dear friend.i don’t joke about people dying.little immature punks like you may think death is funny-well it isn’t and it should be off limits even to a low life like you.
March 8th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
anyone wanna talk about tom cables other games besides the last 2
March 8th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
I have a quick observation about last year…..our best games of last year were with Mario staring at LT. Week 2, week 16, and week 17 all featured Mario Henderson at the LT spot.
March 8th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
# Raiders75 (Dez Bryant for 2010) Says:
March 8th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Rocky Bernard was #1 on my FA list.
However, Shaun Cody was a USC standout and a 2nd round pick in 2005.
We all know the Lions can’t develop talent and bringing this guy home may bring back the fire to play at the top of his game.
Plus, Al could probably get him cheap.
^^^^^
Shaun Cody would be a solid pickup IMO….
March 8th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
# S&B (BJ Raji / Tyson Jackson @ 7 because run d is 31st) Says:
March 8th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Blackholepriest Says:
March 8th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
S&B I can’t tell how simplistic that is, do you have any idea how many teams are CONSISTENTLY great against the run?…………maybe TWO. You have to be able to score and compete and force the opponent to score for most teams to win.
Hell the Patriots are terrible against the run but they score so often it doesn’t matter.
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Simplistic? Those are the numbers! That’s the result. Also, the Patriots and Colts have two of the best QBs to ever play the game. Those two QBs also have 10+ years of experience each!
What’s more likely to happen next year. Draft a couple of pieces to improve the run defense to average, or draft Michael Crabtree and transform into the Patriots or Colts.
Also, take a look at how Belicheck and Parcells draft. You will see a 1st round populated with O-Line and D-Line. Not a ton spent on skill position players.
As for Jake Grove. He was an okay Center. Not great, just okay. Dolphins elected to overpay for him and the Raiders didn’t feel it necessary to match. So a 2nd round pick from a few years ago has to be replaced with another high round pick.
Raiders are looking for starter talent at Center and DT. You don’t go to the 2nd day when looking for immediate starters. YOu go to the 1st and 2nd round.
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If they want starter talend at those positions in Round 1 and 2…then once again opportunities to TRADE DOWN should be heavily considered.
March 8th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
I’m tired of u raiderfans that think DT Raji is the answer for us. Kelly, Sands, and Warren just needs to get in better shape, their conditioning is terrible but they shoudld be alot better this year. Re-sign
DT William Joseph and we’re good to go. We just have to have a wait and see on our DT’s cuz some had several issues to deal with so lets give them a real chance to get it together. Our biggest need to me is at DE. We haven’t had two good DE’s that could get to the qb since the days of Howie Long and Anthony Smith? We desperately need a superior pass rusher in this man to man scheme we like to run. I just can’t figure out why we don’t understand that yet? We spend crazy money on all these cornerbacks which is good, but never get the DE’s to go along with them? I just hope this new defensive coordinator actually has a scheme that our current players can flourish in. For right now I would like us to sign a veteran DE like Vonnie Holliday or Kevin Carter to serve as a leader on defense. If we were to sign SS Roy Williams also, I would be ready to go to the draft in this scenario, and this is how i would draft.
1)WR Crabtree-Texas Tech which is hopeful thinking, but WR Jeremy Mcclin-Missouri is more than likely the pick.
2)C Alex Mack-Cal if available if not DE’s Michael Johnson or Robert Ayers
3)S Chip Vaughn-Wake Forrest
4)DT Terrance Taylor-Michigan
5)OT Murtha-Nebraska
6)K Louie Sakoda-Utah
7)WR Best Available
March 8th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
yiu guys need t oquit piccking on me(sob) its not my fault im 26 & my mommy still spanks my naked bottom when i wet the bed or for get to wipes my ass(yes she does clean it before spanking) these silly, lame ass retarded games r the only outlet i have. you guys are my only freinds, so please understand when i act the buffon, i just dont know how to interact normally with people.
or small animals.
March 8th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
i also have issues with fire but you guys are my freinds so u dont have to worry.
beside dont know were u all live.
March 8th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Well, I believe you are all right; to a point. This is what I believe needs to happen this offseason for us to be competitive:
1. Sign 2-3 above average Offensive linemen through FA. (will be drafting 1-2, this will add competition, cuts made if needed)
2. Find a way to get a deal done for SS Roy Williams. (this move will automatically upgrade our run deffence, plus we are in the market for a SS anyway, just makes sence)
3. Draft RD1-WR (Crabtree or Maclin)
RD2-DE/LB Hybrid (Will fill a need at either position) RD3-OT (Solid LT, Alex Boone from OSU?)
RD4-DT (Moves back line of scrimage, demands double teams)
RD5-C (Gives us youth at position)
RD6-OT/OG (Best available)
RD7-DE/DT (Best available)
I believe if we address these needs, we will not only be better next year, but for years to come. I do want to explain one of my picks; RD3. I know alot of you looking at this are thinking “Why is he waiting until the 3rd round to get an OT, which is such a glaring need?! This guy is full of it!” Truth is folks, OT is probably the deepest position in the draft. We can probably wait until the 4th round and still get a quality OT. FYI, Alex Boone isnt coming off the board in most mocks until mid 4th round. I know alot of you are still disagreeing with me but thats alright. Look at our last Tackle we drafted in the first round. Gallery. Granted, he is playing well at OG, but we paid him “franchise” money to play OT. I am always going to be hesitant to want to draft a o-lineman in the 1st. Now look at Mario Henderson. Late draft pick, but played really well for us last year. He may even mold into one of our best linemen in a year or two. I just think we need to go about this smart.
March 8th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Resign Miller if he is still out there. Grove was a mediocre center and the way to get a dominate line is to use the high draft picks even if it means a center. Leave the skill positions alone until we have the dominate line on both sides of the ball. A dominate line always elevates the players behind them but the reverse is not true.
1. OT
2. Center
3. move Kelly to DE
3b NT
4. possibly a MLB
March 8th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
when i pretend t opost as any of you it is judt because i have p…s envy. you guys have one, i dont(i hide the scissors from mommy now). just my lame way of getting attention & having conversation with my buddies.
March 8th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
Im the real, original maddenraider, I have used all of your names at times, because I dont know who I am, the person I think I am has no personality, no creativity, and of course thats just the beginning,…Im a very troubled man, living at home still. I try and pass myself off in the real world as normal, but they know Im not, they talk about me when Im not around,..I do not have a real relationship with a woman,…I have failed at every job I have had,…nobody calls me,…if it werent for my mom, nobody would give a…
March 9th, 2009 at 1:48 am
Hope your feeling better Jerry. Thanks for thinkin of us!~
March 9th, 2009 at 1:51 am
Kelly’s conditioning was off last year cuz he had to sit with abum knee in the 07 off. He should be better this year and the offense should be better giving them less field time as a bonus.
Honestly, our D can’t be expected to dominate when our offense goes TWO HUNDRED AND SIX PLAYS WITHOUT A TD.
If we get a little production lke we started to last season…
March 9th, 2009 at 1:54 am
T.O. to Bills?
He will shred Trent Edwards. He’ll destroy that young kids will to even play the game.
Lee Evans thinks he’ll benefit from no more double teams and he might, but T.O. won’t like it if Lee starts getting more attention than him.
This is a desperation move that,if history means anything, will hurt rather than help.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:06 am
“the best thought-out offseason of the last six years”?
Seems like you’re right Jerry. We appear to be more organized than we have in a long time and I think you’ve got to give Cable a lot of credit for that.
We won’t know if we’re back until the games start but Al appears to have picked the perfect head coach to match his style.
If there is a disagreement between them in regard to Barnes then I’m inclined to agree with Al but when you look at how Cable has improved that OL then I think Al should accept his judgement on that one.
Never felt sorry for Buffalo before but I do now. If the Cableman talked Al out of signing Owens more power to him. The guy’s a cancer on any team.
As MaddenRaider said on another thread-
“Owens is Kiffin X 10″.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:13 am
Gerard Warren restructures contract also.
One NATION
March 9th, 2009 at 2:54 am
HELLO NATION!raider danny 5yr caller 2 sirius nfl radio!! Enjoy the comments, need to relax a bit! @#7 there all good!(Raji,crabtree,2smiths,curry,orokpo) YOUR ALL RIGHT! WE NEED THEM ALL!!peace
March 9th, 2009 at 3:20 am
to rock fans out there…
James Hetfield is out of the Hospital again..
…Morning to the NATION…
March 9th, 2009 at 3:51 am
That funny they were showing Some Kind of Monster yesterday. Why was sands out of shape what’s his excuse and why will he get better. Every one was saying wilson would solve or run problem well he did’nt, last year kelly needs 2yrs to recover well his excuses are up please al draft d-line not wr first. Untill we stop the run we won’t be good. You can’t blame everthing on ryan are dt suck.
March 9th, 2009 at 3:55 am
“You can’t blame everthing on ryan are dt suck.”
please explain that line, I dont get it!?… btw, I blame AL not RoRy, its evident that RoRy was playing ALs Defense not his own..
March 9th, 2009 at 4:05 am
I meant to say I don’t exactly love are DT and everyone wanted to blame ryan for the d and now that he is gone were gonna be great on d.
March 9th, 2009 at 4:12 am
I long for the old day of a nasty Raider defense, and you look at some of our past great dt these guys dont exactlly fit the bill. I’m glad we passed on dorsey for dmac we needed a gamebreaker but i think we may need help on the d-line and not some undersized de.
March 9th, 2009 at 4:39 am
Morning NATION
March 9th, 2009 at 4:58 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, HOW WAS YOUR WEEKEND 4EVA ?
March 9th, 2009 at 5:03 am
it was fine Dirt Lot
hey what was that story about Wes Chandler???
March 9th, 2009 at 5:21 am
GIVE ME A MINUTE 4EVA , HAVE TO REPOST, SORRY
March 9th, 2009 at 5:30 am
POSTED STORY TWICE 4EVA, DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS…
March 9th, 2009 at 5:32 am
oh well thankx anyway Dirt Lot
March 9th, 2009 at 5:33 am
someone please help, me, i still dont get it…
Morning, crew!
March 9th, 2009 at 5:38 am
Oakland had the lowest rated passing game in the NFL and statistically the worst receiving corps in 2008. These are facts. I find it mind blowing the we still have guys in the Nation claiming that the WR position is not either #1 or 2 on the priority list! We’ve got guys on here just today that list WR as 5th or sixth priority. Wake up. We all drool over what LB or DT we should sign. Do we need to use our 1st round on a Safety? So the season opens and Russell still has no reliable deep threat and really only Zach Miller he can count on to catch the ball when thrown to him.What do you think happens then? Same story, teams stack the box, force us to throw and we get the Barnum and Bailey juggling act again.I forsee a lot of balls hitting the turf. I too was impressed with JLH and Shilliens at the end of the season,and they will continue to improve but come on. They are not ready for prime time.WE need a top flight WR.
Restructuring Walker needed to happen financially, cutting him would have cost too much, but he isn’t the answer. Obviously TO wasn’t either.Oakland’s biggest problem was moving the ball and putting points on the board. We were one dimensional most of 2008. And that was due 100% to piss poor receiving.That is undeniable.Same deal as 2007.Priorities 1-2 have to be a WR an an OT. In whatever order you choose. Start making some 3rd down conversions and scoring TD’s offensively and then we can talk about defense.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:38 am
AFTER 79 SEASON. FREDDIE B RETIRES, STILL HAVE SPEED GUY BRANCH OF COURSE, FACE OF TEAM IS GHANGING. STABLER IS TRADED TO HOUSTON 4 DAN PASTORINI, DAVE CASPER IS TRADED AFTER SEASON STARTS, PHIL VILLIPIANO IS WALKING THROUGH COMLLEX ONE DAY AFTER OFF SEASON WORKOUT. AL SAY’S .WHAT DO U THINK OF BUFFALO’S BOB CHANDLER. PHIL SAY’S LOVE ‘EM HAS SKILL’S , TOUGH. SHOULD BE A RAIDER, AL SAY’S, I THINK SO TO, PACK YOUR GEAR, U BEEN TRADED TO BUFFALO…….
March 9th, 2009 at 5:39 am
I feel there is plenty of blame 2 go around.But as we all know pointing fingers dosent get anything done.But we all also know,by pointing fingers it exposes how we each view said problem and then we try 2 rectify said problem.Hope that helps,b/c if I go farther I will be confused =)
March 9th, 2009 at 5:40 am
WHAT IS UP L M N ?
March 9th, 2009 at 5:41 am
dirtlot..
you may have used a banned word.. even sho3s is no-no word here in iba-land..
March 9th, 2009 at 5:42 am
that is classic Big Al Dirt Lot,imo.Never does he reveal his true purpose untill EVERY ONE elses cards are on the table
thats a great story Dirt LOt !!!
March 9th, 2009 at 5:46 am
U GOT IT RITE L M N , SHOULD HAVE KNOWN, USED ALTERNATE WORD 4 GEAR, AS IN PACK YOUR……
March 9th, 2009 at 5:51 am
ahhh finally got my conundrum myself solved….
I think “Are” and “Our” is the reason i dont get NoMoreFargas’ posts.. if that not the solution, simply dont get those posts…
March 9th, 2009 at 5:54 am
# DIRT LOT FOOTBALL Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 5:40 am
WHAT IS UP L M N ?
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Dirtlot…
well im at least in better mood than i was last week… though my team only got 1-1, they played 10 against 11 for over 60 minutes.. so a Tie against the leagues #4 is okay…
we are still in the hunt, had we lost, I think the #3 spot was our best hope..
March 9th, 2009 at 5:57 am
Muahahaha…
PFT writes… Barnes is still in play… well his source is RaiderBeat… not the best source =) So i dont believe it for a second..
March 9th, 2009 at 5:59 am
WHAT IS THE NAME OF YOUR TEAM AGAN ? WHAT ARE THERE PRIMARY COLOR’S ?
March 9th, 2009 at 6:00 am
The Raiders have also contacted Marvel Smith, the Pittsburgh Steelers starting tackle coming off back surgery, but have not as yet arranged a visit.
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We need a left tackle to push/mentor Mario Henderson. Smith is 31 years old with back problems, but i’d rather take a flyer on him than the younger more expensive prospect Khalif Barnes, who is a total “head-case and malcontent”. Jerry Mac states these are the types of players we’re trying to avoid this year. I guess we’ll find out …
March 9th, 2009 at 6:04 am
good morning Dirt Lot, 4eva, LMN …
Owens to the Bills, eh? I can dig it!
Is Tom Cable bringing more stability to Raider Nation or what ??? dude has common sense and more importantly, the owner’s ear.
The only way we will win is if Cable has some say in roster moves. free agency AND the draft
this offseason has been uncharacteristic. it’s a breath of fresh air
March 9th, 2009 at 6:06 am
sadly its blue and yellow as the swedes flag and National team (btw its a danish team, plating in the danish league)
Its named Brøndby/Brondby for those with english keyboards?
http://brondby.com/article.asp?aid=82
March 9th, 2009 at 6:07 am
Muahahaha…
PFT writes… Barnes is still in play… well his source is RaiderBeat… not the best source =) So i dont believe it for a second..
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LMN: no kidding man, the Raider Beat is pie on the wall galore. According to Paul Wexler we’ve already signed Jerry Porter, Terrell Owens, S Roy Williams, Khalif Barnes and traded for Anquan Boldin. that dude is a tool
March 9th, 2009 at 6:11 am
by the way, Asst OL coach Chris Morgan … WELCOME TO OAKLAND!
this is Tom Cable’s boy
Morgan played guard at Colorado, when Cable coached there. He also was a graduate assistant at Idaho under Cable in 2003.
March 9th, 2009 at 6:15 am
RRS…
so that makes him 26?? or what?
Good Morning to you to sir, im enjoying the afternoon sun, here =) not the worst way to start a new week =)
March 9th, 2009 at 6:16 am
RRS…
LOL, my bad, thought he graduated in 2003 =) LOL
March 9th, 2009 at 6:26 am
RRS.. how long is his contract for? it gives us quite a hint how much Al believes in Cable… or ZeeZee as i call him =) LOL
March 9th, 2009 at 6:29 am
Mjaaaaalllllooooooo?
aaaaa lllllllll oooooooo!
March 9th, 2009 at 6:43 am
Morning, Nation
continues to be all quiet on the Western Front, it seems….
March 9th, 2009 at 6:46 am
so that makes him 26?? or what?
how long is his contract for?
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Morgan is 32 years old. not sure about the contract length. If I had to guess I’d say 2 years …
March 9th, 2009 at 6:48 am
Door all but closed on Barnes
Raiders coach Tom Cable wants to sign Jaguars left tackle Khalif Barnes, a pupil of longtime friend Keith Gilbertson, that much we know.
After three days of negotiations, the situation seems to be getting a little sticky — and is now on the brink of not happening at all.
Barnes’ agent told the Oakland Tribune and Santa Rosa Press-Democrat earlier today his client was more likely to sign elsewhere than here with the Raiders (or, apparently, the 49ers).
Now, all talks with the Raiders are off, his agent just told me, and Barnes is close to finalizing a deal with an undisclosed team.
If this is just a leverage move, it’s a pretty good one, on Barnes’ behalf.
-David White (SF Chronicle)
March 9th, 2009 at 6:51 am
RRS…
I believe his stuff, way more that that hack to raiderbeat..
Tra Thomas has signed with Jax, Im sure that means Al will sign Barnes…
March 9th, 2009 at 7:01 am
Barnes is a head-case and malcontent. He had more false starts, holding calls and sacks allowed than Cornell Green last year!
Cable hand picked Kwame Harris too, remember? I hope this is one player Al Davis does not sign off on. He did good by leaving Porter & Owens alone. Instead of overpaying free agents from other teams he locked up a few of our own key guys and got some players within the organization to restructure. I hope the trend continues, rather than reverting back to our old ways. We know that leads to failure. I know he’s a 26 year old LT from Jax with some potential & upside. A Cali native, etc. resist the tempation Mr. Davis!
March 9th, 2009 at 7:06 am
im still a bit pissed that we didnt get jason brown :/
March 9th, 2009 at 7:07 am
I was hoping we’d get RT Ray Willis!
March 9th, 2009 at 7:12 am
Dick Jauron showed how desperate he is to keep his job by grabbing Owens.
Jets won 9 games last year. Dolphins won the division. Patriots won 11 games without Tom Brady.
I hope Trent Edwards is ready for this!
March 9th, 2009 at 7:16 am
I think TO will just take carries away from Lynch. Buffalo won’t improve much, IMO.
Hes a baby and will be calling Edwards out for not throwing at him 15 times a game by week 10.
That being said, another 1000 yard, 8 dropped passes season for TO.
March 9th, 2009 at 7:17 am
Maybe the Bills signed Owens to mentor Marshawn Lynch? look at his wrap sheet. only 2 years in the NFL. Owens looks like a saint in comparison …
On June 14, 2006, Lynch was the victim of mistaken identity when unknown assailants shot at his car outside his high school alma mater as he was about to visit his little sister on her graduation day. He was not the intended target of the shooting, and no one was injured. The shooter phoned Lynch’s mother to apologize.
On January 25, 2007, Lynch was accused of sexual assault by his former girlfriend. The incident reportedly happened on December 13, 2006, outside the woman’s home in Emeryville, California.
On January 29, 2007, an Alameda County Deputy District Attorney who specializes in domestic violence cases declined to press charges, citing a lack of evidence and “grave inconsistencies” in the alleged victim’s accusations. Lynch was never arrested or charged.
On March 3, 2007, an Alameda County judge threw out a restraining order that Lynch’s ex-girlfriend had issued against him because it was obtained improperly.
During June 2008, Lynch was under investigation for his involvement in a hit and run accident that occurred in Buffalo on May 31, 2008. His 2008 Porsche Cayenne struck and injured a female pedestrian before leaving the scene. After the 27 day saga, on June 26, 2008, Lynch apologized and accepted a guilty plea to a single count of failure to exercise due care to avoid striking a pedestrian, a traffic violation. He was assessed a $100 fine, and his driver’s license and car registration were revoked. Because a Buffalo police officer gave testimony that the victim did not suffer “severe physical injury”, Lynch avoided being criminally charged for the incident.
Three days after his 2009 Pro Bowl appearance, Lynch was arrested on February 11 in Culver City, California after police approached a running 2006 Mercedes-Benz that he and two companions were occupying. After smelling marijuana, they discovered a loaded gun in the car that was determined to belong to Lynch. He was released the same day after paying $35,000 bail. Lynch’s felony charge was reduced to three misdemeanors, and no drug charges were filed. On March 5 Lynch pled guilty to a misdemeanor gun charge and was sentenced to three years of probation, 80 hours of community service. He also agreed to submit to police searches at any time. The two other misdemeanor gun charges were dismissed.
March 9th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Khalif Barnes would be a decent depth pick-up, but in no way is this a necessary FA move. I am glad Al is showing some restraint in signing players for Cable, because so far Cable’s personnel moves are not that inspiring.
If this Barnes deal falls apart, which I hope it does; we are that much closer to Al choosing Michael Oher, Andre Smith or god willing Monroe or J. Smith.
…and please, I don’t want to hear about how Henderson is already our starting left tackle. I have been watching clips of him on NFL.com and he looks much less impressive in hindsight.
March 9th, 2009 at 7:24 am
I think TO will just take carries away from Lynch. Buffalo won’t improve much, IMO.
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I can’t see them winning more than 8 games either. I guess it depends though.
Jets are rebuilding. Were the Dolphins a 1 hit wonder? You know Pennington is injury prone. Has Brady fully recovered? will he be able to take a beating for 16 weeks?
Lee Evans, Josh Reed, Roscoe Parrish, James Hardy & Owens is a talented WR corps. They still need 2 guards, a center and a tight end to complete the offense though. Will there be enough balls to go around? You know Lynch wants 30 carries a game too…
March 9th, 2009 at 7:27 am
I don’t want to hear about how Henderson is already our starting left tackle. I have been watching clips of him on NFL.com and he looks much less impressive in hindsight.
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I’d rather have Henderson than Barnes at LT. I still don’t think we should pass on a tackle at #7 though unless Michael Crabtree is still on the board.
March 9th, 2009 at 7:30 am
Need’s in order of importance in my opinion
1. NT-Raji will probably be gone at #7 (is he big enought for NT in the NFL?)
2. C-Preston, round #2 of draft, one of picks we get via trading #1
3. #1 WR-Holts wants to go to Carolina, Harrison is done, #1 pick or #2 pick
4. LB-could land one in picks 1 thru 3, Eric Barton
March 9th, 2009 at 7:32 am
RRS,
Exactly; with or without Barnes, we need to select a tackle with the #7 pick. Henderson is still scary in pass-protection and even if he improves, depth is the name of the game when it comes to O-line.
March 9th, 2009 at 7:37 am
I’m not crazy about Barnes, either. Looks good in run protection, not so well in pass protection. Too many penalties. I could see him as a RT.
Henderson will duke it out with whoever drafted or FA, but I still believe the Raiders have Mario in mind for LT unless they’re wowed, which would be just find. Any improvement is good news.
I would prefer to draft a T in 2nd or 3rd round, as there are plenty too go around, and we won’t get any of the top 3 anyway most likely. A. Smith falling to 2nd a real possibility, although that complicates our pick for a C, as that is the most likely slot we’d get one.
March 9th, 2009 at 7:39 am
Exactly; with or without Barnes, we need to select a tackle with the #7 pick. Henderson is still scary in pass-protection and even if he improves, depth is the name of the game when it comes to O-line.
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Mario Henderson, Cornell Green, Paul McQuistan, James Marten.
Even minus Kwame Harris this is still one of the least impressive groups of tackles in the league…
March 9th, 2009 at 7:42 am
I think Eugene Monroe & Jason Smith will be long gone before pick #7 …
Andre Smith or Michael Oher in Round 1. Max Unger in Round 2 would produce instant results imo
March 9th, 2009 at 7:46 am
RaiderRockstar’s mock draft version 1.0 -
Round 1: WR Michael Crabtree, Jeremy Maclin
Round 2: C Max Unger, Jonathan Luigs, Eric Wood
Round 3: OT Troy Kropog, Fenuki Tupou, Xavier Fulton
Round 4: DT Sammie Lee Hill, Vance Walker, Terrance Taylor, Terrance Knighton
Round 6: DE Kyle Moore, Orion Martin, David Veikune, Pannel Egboh, Stryker Sulak
Round 7: OLB Anthony Heygood, Kaluka Maiava, Mortty Ivy, Solomon Elimimian
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I’m sticking with the above plan. Add Marvel Smith in FA for depth/competition at LT.
March 9th, 2009 at 7:47 am
I wanted to believe that Mario Henderson was our LT of the future, and the numbers suggested that he was doing a good job at the end of the season, but stats can lie.
Watching highlights of our big offensive plays in those last few games show that a TE or FB was always helping out on the left side, and often they did a much better job than Mario of keeping defenders from teeing off on Russell. Mario doesn’t just look bad out there on the replays, he looks completely out of place on a football field. LT is an absolute necessity this off-season.
March 9th, 2009 at 7:52 am
We also have Pears at T
March 9th, 2009 at 7:55 am
Watching highlights of our big offensive plays in those last few games show that a TE or FB was always helping out on the left side, and often they did a much better job than Mario of keeping defenders from teeing off on Russell.
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BBB: I’m glad somebody besides me noticed that. Every time I bring it up in a “Mario for LT” debate that comment gets no replies or responses. Just stats of the games he started vs. stats from the games Harris started.
What I want to say every time is … “well even Barry Sims was better than Kwame!”
March 9th, 2009 at 8:00 am
From what I am seeing we might be looking at the best available tackle at number seven.
That could be offense or defense.
Pears gives us a bit of insurance if Monroe and Jason Smith are gone by number seven.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:02 am
RRS,
Everyone has just been assuming Mario was great because he didn’t give up a sack. I only remember watching those games and thinking our offense looked much improved. When everybody on here said Mario was awesome, I rolled with that. But now in watching some of the film, I have started to see with my own eyes how our players performed down the home stretch last year.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:07 am
posts #191 & #193
Erik Pears will provide depth and compete with Cornell Green at RT …
Marvel Smith should be brought in to do the same for Mario Henderson at LT …
even with a couple of FA scrubs we’re still not SOLID at either tackle spot.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Bean-O Wells at #7! It’s a lock!
Trade D Mac to KC for Cassle, and
CUT JaDonut!
J Richardson will be our MLB on 1st, and 2nd down.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:14 am
RR
Agreed on the Oline.
I would prefer to see OT at number seven.
From what I am reading, Monroe and J Smith are the best.
After that there is a drop off.
We might say that if those two are gone we go with Raji(if available) then go with a Beatty or Britton at OT in round two.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:17 am
Dirty Raccoon Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Bean-O Wells at #7! It’s a lock!
Finally! Someone with half a brain! Son, if you need a job I would be happy to have you join the Raiders front office. I need people with insight.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:21 am
I know it will be unpopular to say on here, but Harris looks ten times better than Henderson does on film. Watch highlight reels from the Chargers game, and then the Patriots game for comparison. If we start Henderson in 2008, the AFC West is gonna have us for breakfast.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:27 am
With JLH going reciever Jeremy Mac is the for sure safe pick @#7 Speed and yards after the catch bro!
March 9th, 2009 at 8:29 am
Aloha my friends!…just popped up in here for a quick second,..read the post about Hetfield in hospital again,..good!…we see him at alot of games, in the west side club,…hes a total jerk, especially when hes on his sober kick,..hey hetfield scks for you that you cant have a couple brews and maintain you moron!…and metallica has sucked for over ten years dude!!…Slipknot is in Arco wednesday but I wont be back from Kaanapali by then,..bummer,..great gig.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:31 am
I know it will be unpopular to say on here, but Harris looks ten times better than Henderson does on film.
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wow. that is unpopular to say! haha. Harris went 1 on 1 with guys. Henderson didn’t very often. So it’s hard make the assumption Mario can’t do it, but if he needs help, thats not a good sign. He’s young & raw. Still has upside & potential. With Kwame Harris you kind of know what you’re getting – a bust. Mario didn’t hold anybody or pick up any false starts, so maybe he’s ok mentally, which is a step in the right direction. The rumor that he’s not aggressive or physical enough is what concerns me most. Those are traits of Terdell Sands! All the size, not enough passion or effort
March 9th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Did you guys read that the Chargers made a ‘final offer’ to LT? I wouldn’t mind picking him up and then maybe trading McFadden or Bush, maybe both.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Slipknot is in Arco wednesday but I wont be back from Kaanapali by then,..bummer,..great gig.
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Slipknot sucks unless you’re a 16 year old kid that wears makeup and chains. got depression? obviously.
I thought old strung out dudes listened to Aerosmith & Tom Petty?
March 9th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Did you guys read that the Chargers made a ‘final offer’ to LT? I wouldn’t mind picking him up and then maybe trading McFadden or Bush, maybe both.
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WHAT???????????????
Tomlinson is done. He better take what he can get.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Iv never like Petty or Aerosmith,…both real boring,…actually dont have a Slipknot cd, but seen them at a couple Ozzfests,..awesome,..hey if you disagree I can live with that,..as I sip a mai tai for breakfast.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:42 am
“Slipknot sucks unless you’re a 16 year old kid that wears makeup and chains. got depression? obviously. ”
Bwahahaha, good one =) and those 16 year olds’ fathers were probably KISS fans =)
March 9th, 2009 at 8:44 am
LMN, you seem to bag on KISS alot for whatever reason,..is it jealousy?…are you aware how those dudes live?…Sommins worth maybe 700 million dollars…and um you do what?…load freight?…far away somewhere?…hang in a blog with soccer references?…lol.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:45 am
RRS,
It goes beyond being not physical enough. If you think Harris is a bust, then there are no words to describe Henderson’s play at LT. He just kind of back-pedals and hopes to be in the way of the pass-rusher. On all of the big pass plays they show for the Bucs, Texans and Patriots games, Russell has to get rid of the ball just before the RDE gets there every time. Henderson does not use his hands at all, so it’s no wonder he doesn’t get holding calls; and he is so lackadaisical getting off the snap, nobody would ever accuse him of false starting.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:46 am
The “do-nothing” argument holds up only if you are a Super Bowl team and perennial powerhouse in your division, and in the league, as Pittsburgh is. I fail to see how sitting on your hands in free agency is improving the team, which should have moved mountains to sign relatively young and productive vets like Rocky Bernard and Jason Brown. On the other hand, maybe they tried, and neither wanted any part of “Dear Leader” Davis and JOKE-LAND–Losers of the Decades!!
March 9th, 2009 at 8:46 am
LMN, while you are in here making fun of KISS, on your break from loading another pallet into a ship, Gene Simmons is living in a palace,…oh and hes not making fun of losers like you who have lousy jobs and drool about soccer,….LMN, keep the jealousy spewing, it suits you.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:47 am
Where are ya LMN?…that 10 minute coffee break over already?…lol.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Thats what a I thought,…well we are off to Hana today, fo sure no laptop access there, nor a cell signal,..catch you success stories tonight for a quick check in,..oh and LMN,…please chime in again when on your lunch half hour….lmao.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:49 am
break time
March 9th, 2009 at 8:50 am
narko bob…
nah, i can never be jealous of a man that got rich for wearing makeup… never.. furthermore their music sucks, “god gave RnR to you” is the only song of theirs, i consider a classic..
they need those 700mio to drown their self respect.. and buy women…whom later show it on the internet… LOL…
GAWD no im not jealous… =)
March 9th, 2009 at 8:50 am
Its all a big joke. Last year, when Al Davis went freakn balistic and signed anyone with a pulse, it was great!! “Al wants to win so bad and will do anything to win”. Now this year he hasnt done squat and its ” Al is so smart. He isnt blowing money and is going young for the future”. LOL!! Make up your mind. There are TONS of holes on this club and NOT one has been filled. NOT ONE. You say fill them in the draft? When is the last time Al Davis filled a hole in the draft?
March 9th, 2009 at 8:52 am
woaw 3 post, i must have hit a nerve… sipknot and KISS…LOL..
lunch break!, are you stupid???
March 9th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Hmmm,..LMN,..sounds like you know alot of their songs, Im guessing you were once a fan, now feel weird about it as an adult,..so go the other way and blast them,..lol,…hey LMN,M when your loading pallets, do you when alone sing some old KiSS tunes?…hey LMN, dont blame Gene Simmons for you having a crappy job and a worthless life that spews jealousy in a blog,..nope, not Genes fault you loser.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Heaven…
4oz Makers Mark
2oz Branch water
3 large cubes O ice
1 good Highball glass
My Black Mouth Curr (Henery Lawrence)
My Fishing pool
Greg Pappa Calling a Raiders game
Sitting anywhere on the Sacramento River!
Yes, this is Heaven!!!!
March 9th, 2009 at 8:54 am
I’m so glad we didn’t take the bait and sign T.O. Even if T.O. goes on to do great things for the Bills. For once, the Raiders are walking the walking when it comes to locker room politics. Cable said he wanted to change the culture around here. They’ve done that by retaining some, and cutting others. In both cases, they were the right decisions. Even in the case of Walker who didn’t get cut, but definitely got humbled. If they pursue guys like T.O., Ocho, PacMan, & Tank they will be sending mixed messages about culture. Don’t do it! Stay the course. It may not make for good headlines in the short-term, but let’s see the headlines a couple of January’s from now.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Taco stuffer, get da f out, talkn jibberish.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:55 am
This was not the real BlackholePriest, it was a poser/troll.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:56 am
Couple Januarys from now will show results? Hows that?
March 9th, 2009 at 8:56 am
Nah didnt hit a nerve, but hey please dont hit anything with that forklift bro,..hey are you licenced to drive that rig?…lol,…no forklifts on Genes spread,…lear jet maybe, forklift no…lol,…get back to loading that pallet LMN you loser! lol
March 9th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Aloha peeps!…Hana calls…hey LMN, hang in there, it aint so bad, the world needs ditch diggers too, in your case though freight loaders…lol.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Wow DorcO Bobby,
why would you put a guy down for working for a living? Driving a forklift or any other job??
That is pretty sad!!
March 9th, 2009 at 9:03 am
When is the last time Al Davis filled a hole in the draft?
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we draft for need!
Al Davis’ need for speed!
March 9th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Hey Dorco Bobby, what is the deal with what a guy does for a living? Are you trying to overcome a felling of worthlessness by putting down others for the real work they do?
That is SAD!
March 9th, 2009 at 9:06 am
What can you expect from a drug addict that still lives with his ex-girlfriend.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:06 am
I think we have the foundation. With a couple more quality drafts, and smart free agent additions, this team can make some waves in the playoffs. Probably not next season, even though 8 – 8 is within reach.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Hey Norco Bob, you never did tell me if those sharks you came across were the ones that ate Cooper. If your not sure one of them was Mary Anne and the other was Ginger.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Dont you have to have 1 quality draft to have a couple MORE?
March 9th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Al Davis has used inconsistent discretion in signing free agents because his player acquisition goals have have been off target more times than not for a consistent winning team.
The biggest problem with FAs is that they are very expensive if they are starters, especially if they are dominate and now days they get a costly signing bonus up front. Secondly, a lot of them do bring the baggage in the form of a “Leon” a me first type of player.
However, the risk is significantly reduced if they go to a winning team. Winning solves all problems. Question is how do you consistently win? Al Davis does not have a clue.
It begins with the goal of having dominate linemen on both sides of the ball first, Yes, dominate linemen are hard to come by but it is much easier if this is your goal and not a band aid approach that Al Davis uses.
Dominate linemen always elevate the game of the players behind them but the reverse is not true. Al Davis has continually drafted or brought in mediocre linemen and then has spent most of his money on the skill positions.
Inevitably, a mediocre “O” line will consistently put the offense in a 3RD and LONG situation, a mediocre “D” line will NOT stop the run, keep the blockers off the LBs and will never put any consistent pressure on the QB. Consistent losing acerbates the huge egos of the skill players and they become a liability.
Sound familiar? Thus the Raiders have become the laughing stock of the NFL.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:10 am
enjoy hawaii Bob
March 9th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Obviously you optimistic fellars, who seem to be optimistic EVERY year, havent checked the schedule. Hellooooo 4-12.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Defensive tackle Gerard Warren is the latest player targeted by the Raiders in a string of moves designed to free up enough cap room so that they can sign a few free agents from other teams.
Warren was due a $4.63 million base salary, $1 million workout bonus and a $500,000 roster bonus for the 2009 season as part of the contract he signed with the Denver Broncos.
The Raiders converted part of his contract figures so that he is guaranteed more money this season but counts less against the cap.
-Raider Beat
March 9th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Post 222. You are mistaken that WAS me and not a troll.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:11 am
I saw it said awhile up the list and have seen it elsewhere here where Orakpo is dismissed as a workout warrior. True, he had a great workout at the combine. But his performance at Texas had him as a lock to go Top-10 if not Top-5 long before the combine took place.
He’s not my No. 1 choice — I’d rather draft either Crabtree or Maclin — but he’s the best pass rusher in this draft and if he was still around at No. 7 would be a solid pick.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Taco stuffers?? WTF? Come on mods, does this stuff need to be on here?
March 9th, 2009 at 9:15 am
JohnnyTyler Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Dont you have to have 1 quality draft to have a couple MORE?
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Last 2 drafts were quality drafts, imho.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:18 am
I have my newest investment oppurtunity. Its a sure thing. All you have to do is bet 100 typical Raider fans, who all believe the Raiders will win 10 games EVERY year, 1000 dollars that the Raiders wont win 7 games before every season and you will make 100,000 bucks a year, EVERY year.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:19 am
In your humble opinion, how so? Pro Bowlers galore or what
March 9th, 2009 at 9:21 am
you gotta show the 100000
March 9th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Norco Bob..
no, im not a fan, never been never will, i had a class mate, called KISS-Kenneth, huge fan as the name says, so i’ve heard their music and they suck… slipknot too, a friend of mine’s little brother is a fan, and i think its very poor on quality..
if you need to wear masks or make-up to get attention, your music clearly cant carry its own weight…
March 9th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Paul Wexler of the Raider Beat has Khalif Barnes, Roy Williams (SS), Oren O’Neal and John Wade as part of the Oakland Raiders 2009 starting lineup.
LOL. what a moron!
March 9th, 2009 at 9:23 am
and dont worry about my job, i surveil over 2 mio containers around the world, i have my health, im fit and i have less then 30 min commute to work, so dont worry about me…
March 9th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Post 241 I wouldn’t mind a piece of that action myself.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:23 am
JohnnyTyler Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 9:18 am
I have my newest investment oppurtunity. Its a sure thing. All you have to do is bet 100 typical Raider fans, who all believe the Raiders will win 10 games EVERY year, 1000 dollars that the Raiders wont win 7 games before every season and you will make 100,000 bucks a year, EVERY year.
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Ya, but Raider fans are welchers and will probably just beat you up in January instead of pay.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Show the 1000, you mean. Done. Guess all I have to do is jump on a plane, get to Oakland and walk the streets offering the bet. Guarantee I would get 100 takers in less than an hour. Its actually kind of sad that Raider fans are so dillusional. Why is that by the way?
March 9th, 2009 at 9:23 am
LMN thats the MTV generation;they dont care about musical talent or content,they just wanna see a show.That explains rap,the same stooooopid bass line over&over&over….
March 9th, 2009 at 9:25 am
yep my bad,1000
March 9th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Wexler has a seemingly bottomless orifice from which to pull that sh:t from.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:26 am
As we all know, you have to give a draft class a few years before you can fully evaluate them. ‘07 brought Russel, Bush, Miller, Higgins, Henderson and O’neal. ‘08 brought McFadden, Schillens, Branch, and Scott. Granted, none of these guys are stars. But, they are quality up and coming players that have contributed to the few positives that this team has going for it right now. As far as the schedule goes, going into last season it looked like we had received a gift by drawing the NFC South and the AFC East. Those divisions pulled a 180. The NFL is too fluid, schedule isn’t as important as it used to be.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:26 am
How the F does that clown have a websit? That was the dumbest article I have ever read. I pert near broke my neck from shaking my head while reading it.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:28 am
Johnny Tyler: you are the one who is delusional if you think you could go to Oakland bashing the Raiders and their fans. Making bets with fans, etc. You’d be lucky to leave Oakland with your own money, let alone anybody elses and that has NOTHING to do with what happens on the football field. You’ve obviously never been there. If you go, make sure you take the BART
March 9th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Well, I call you optimistic for sure, with your thoughts on the last few drafts. The NFL isnt the MLB, guys show their stuff early and Miller is the only real good player out of that group. JLH is a good STer, looks like he might be a decent WR.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Chris Mortensen is a liar and a idiot! Today on ESPN Mortensen stated Shawn Springs would do well in Bill Belichek’s offense? Shawn Springs is a DB ! LOL!
March 9th, 2009 at 9:31 am
JohnnyTyler Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Show the 1000, you mean. Done. Guess all I have to do is jump on a plane, get to Oakland and walk the streets offering the bet. Guarantee I would get 100 takers in less than an hour. Its actually kind of sad that Raider fans are so dillusional. Why is that by the way?
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Don’t you have a Dolt, Donkey. or Queiffs blog to hang out on ? LOL
March 9th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Been there. Go to games every year. Raider fans arent as bad ass as guys like you would have people believe. Keep feeding the stereo type machine though.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Hey, I am a Raider fan. Have been since I was a lil kid. I just live in REALITY, a place where most Raider fans have never been. Are you telling me that my investment oppurtunity would not pay off?LOL
March 9th, 2009 at 9:37 am
I dolt on this blog? Well I guess with their days numbered with a declining LT they have decided to jump on the Raider bandwagon with the glory days returning. It’s a ongoing cycle dolts you win for a few years then you have to rebuild , in your cases it’s gonna be probably 10 years before the dolts even reach the playoffs again!
March 9th, 2009 at 9:38 am
over the last 6 years,yes.Over the last 45 years NO,hows that 4 living in “reality”???
March 9th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Norco Bob Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Aloha peeps!…Hana calls…hey LMN, hang in there, it aint so bad, the world needs ditch diggers too, in your case though freight loaders…lol.
Wow DorcO Bobby,
why would you put a guy down for working for a living? Driving a forklift or any other job??
That is pretty sad!!
Dirty Raccoon Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Hey Dorco Bobby, what is the deal with what a guy does for a living? Are you trying to overcome a felling of worthlessness by putting down others for the real work they do?
That is SAD!
Dirty Raccoon Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 9:06 am
What can you expect from a drug addict that still lives with his ex-girlfriend.
LMN nice set up ya got. Congrats on the health and
all.
I sure wish I could “run” into BOB sometime!!
March 9th, 2009 at 9:47 am
I would like 2 run into Norco Bob 2,but 4 diffrent reasons,I’m sure~~~
March 9th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Good morning Nation. I see there is no news. Also, why pay barnes and Burnett a lot if money now, or wait a few weeks and save money. I heard there was a report that cable wanted Barnes but Al didn’t for diff reasons, but the main onebeing money. Or maybe Al learned from the Kwani deal. No team in todays NFL will let a quality left tackle walk away.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Johnny Tyler: not everybody from Oakland is like Kirk Morrison. some are like Marshawn Lynch
haha.
Remember the riot after the Super Bowl loss to the Bucs?
don’t confuse Oakland with San Diego.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:53 am
No team in todays NFL will let a quality left tackle walk away.
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Agreed. Barnes is 26 years old. The Jags replaced him with Tra Thomas, who is 34 years old!
Didn’t even make him a lowball offer to return … probably because he played like Kwame Harris last year!
March 9th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Ah yes 4eva, I feel ya baby!!
But not with a guy like that… can’t trust em.
March 9th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Any work is good work, especialy in todays economy. I remember a good advise an ol frnd gave me after I made one person feel less about their hard labor work. I didn’t do it intentialy but I said with so much pride ” I never had to do labor work, why do labor work when I can, and have done other things envolving my brain, and the jobs also pay a lot better”. Back then I was in my teens. My friend said ” if you were blesses, don’t show it to people with less unless you’re going to share. Also instead of saying what I did and made that person feel less a bout themselves or what they do. I could have just been quite. Think before you talk. And always remember, what ever you have and own ( great job, cars, house, family, etc..) can all be taken away from you, if you don’t show your thankful.
March 9th, 2009 at 10:07 am
I agree that game is won in the trenches but Pittsburg won the championship without a good OL. I’m hoping for a center and another T through FA to focus draft on D and get a WR in round 1 or 2.
LT-Henderson, Pears
RT-*Barnes, Pears, Mcquistan, Green
C-*Preston, Wade, Morris
*would be nice
March 9th, 2009 at 10:09 am
# Oakglenn Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Did you guys read that the Chargers made a ‘final offer’ to LT? I wouldn’t mind picking him up and then maybe trading McFadden or Bush, maybe both.
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This is not even good trolling. This is just lame. Come on Troll, you can do better than this crap.
The Raiders probably made Barnes an offer for the league minimum. Only he and his agent thinks he worth more. No one in the league does. He should’ve taken the money and ran. He wasn’t going to make the roster anyway, but at least he could make some $$$ thru training camp.
March 9th, 2009 at 10:10 am
I dunno Raccoon,I been from key west 2 canada,from maine 2 mexico and lots of places inbetween,I think it would be ok.And besides I went 2 lots of games when we was in L.A.,but I never been 2 Alameda.I consider it my last wish 2 go 2 as many games in Alameda B4 I die and tailgate with 408,Brien and Norco Bob
March 9th, 2009 at 10:10 am
4eva,
3 pound Venison 1″ cubes
1 cup soy
1/2 cup Makers Mark
1/2 cup brown sugar
1/2 cup white sugar
1 12oz can O Pineapple chuncks with juice
10 cloves O Garlic
1/2 cup O sesame oil
1/4 cup sesame seeds
2 Tbl spoons O ground ginger
1/2 cup chopped green onion
cook over white hot coles for about 2-3 minutes per side.
Eat right off the grill with your favorite brew!!
March 9th, 2009 at 10:11 am
O R A K P O
March 9th, 2009 at 10:11 am
hell my kid is grown and I moving back 2 Cali by this season next at the latest
March 9th, 2009 at 10:14 am
here in the Ozarks we eat dirty raccoon …
March 9th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Raccoon,I just smoked a back-strap.Thats the 1 thing about florida,you can hunt and fish EVERYDAY.Deer season is closed but you can shoot hogs all year round,as they are not indiginous 2 florida,and I live next 2 a nature preserve
March 9th, 2009 at 10:16 am
272, 4eva,
Dam that would be one hellava party.
After a few rounds (10) mabey I could deal with a guy like Norco Bob.
March 9th, 2009 at 10:16 am
ORAKPO, or trade down Al.
March 9th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Orakpo is going to be a stud.
KC will grab him if Curry is gone though …
March 9th, 2009 at 10:21 am
4eva I got fam in Ft Walton Beach.
How did the back strap turn out?
March 9th, 2009 at 10:22 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 10:14 am
here in the Ozarks we eat dirty raccoon
LOLOLOLOLOLOLO
I been 2 ozarks 2 wow it’s soooooooo beautiful there.I know the faithfull will be mad,but sometimes I wish da Raiders would move 2 the Ozarks,if Alameda is out of question.I LOVE the OZARKS
March 9th, 2009 at 10:22 am
I live in SD and I can’t live in any state but Cali, and maybe Ohio. I know that’s odd but when I was a kid I lived with some family in Columbus, and that’s why I’m USC and OSU fan. I really enjoyed my stay in Ohio. The weather compared to Cali is nasty, but I loved it there. I like farms, and I do want to own one. IGW.
March 9th, 2009 at 10:23 am
RAIDERS OF DA OZARKS
March 9th, 2009 at 10:24 am
sMOKED STRAP IS DA BOMB.I live north of tampa,in port richey
March 9th, 2009 at 10:28 am
For the last week or so I was having nightmares of the Raiders running plays with TO going deep with Vick taking the snap while JR was split out….then Pac Man taking kick off returns.
I’ve been down big time on the old man lately, but I give credit when credit’s due.
March 9th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Why do you think Curry will be gone Rockstsr, lets look at it.
Lions : gave pepper a 1 yr deal only, can you say QB.
Rams. : after investing there last 2 top 1st round picks on D line, it’s time for the O line since they need help badly.
KC : curry the best player in the draft is there, and you just got your QB (thanks to daddy BB). Now since they want rouse a 3-4 scheme, you need a NT and LBs, and since they don’t have both. Raji or curry will be the pick. Raji At 3, hell no, SO THE ITS CURRY.
Should I keep going?
March 9th, 2009 at 10:31 am
I once new a Pirate named Bob,
B O B bob was a drunkin old slob, but Bob made it to the TOP…
I once new a Pirate named Bob,
B O B bob was a drunkin old slob
B O B bob ’bout as dumb as a rock, but Bob made it to the TOP…
He’d say you swing from your tree, and I’ll swing from mine, you have your Lemons and I’ll have my Limes
It’s funny, we all act like monkeys some times.. You swing from your tree, and I’ll swing from mine
You have your whiskey and I’ll have my wine, you save your money and I’ll spend my dime…
Willie Nelson the BOB song check it out!!!
March 9th, 2009 at 10:34 am
I got a lot O fam in the Hills of the Sierra’s. They act just like they were from the Ozarks!
I think some even got 6 toes!!
We do drink our shine though..
March 9th, 2009 at 10:35 am
I been 2 ozarks 2 wow it’s soooooooo beautiful there.I know the faithfull will be mad,but sometimes I wish da Raiders would move 2 the Ozarks,if Alameda is out of question.I LOVE the OZARKS
RAIDERS OF DA OZARKS
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LOL @ 4eva. I’m surrounded by Chiefs fans & Rams fans. The Raiders won more games last year than both MO teams combined! woohoo! Springfield is too clean for the Raiders. Move the Rams to Springfield and the Raiders to St. Louis … yeah baby
March 9th, 2009 at 10:36 am
What are the chances burgess stays healthy, thats why the eagles didnt keep him. For the last 6yrs great white i’ve been having nightmares that we were the worst team in footbsll oh wait that reality.
March 9th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Raider O:
I can see Stafford, Smith/Monroe & Curry being the first 3 picks… keep going though
March 9th, 2009 at 10:39 am
What are the chances burgess stays healthy
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slim to none
March 9th, 2009 at 10:42 am
4evaRaider Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Raccoon,I just smoked a back-strap.Thats the 1 thing about florida,you can hunt and fish EVERYDAY.Deer season is closed but you can shoot hogs all year round,as they are not indiginous 2 florida,and I live next 2 a nature preserve
Ok, great I’ll be there 6:00am Tuesday…Ha ha ha
I shoot a .340 wby, will that be ok for wild Hog??
March 9th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Rockstar, try living in the KC metro area! I get so much crap when Oak does bad. We can go 2-14, those 2 wins better be against KC! Did you go to Branson & Silver Dollar City?
March 9th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Why not a .50BMG for deer? lol idiot!!!
March 9th, 2009 at 10:48 am
How bout a .204 Ruger for Ground Hog????
March 9th, 2009 at 10:49 am
I slept with a troll one time. Damn SOB farted and pulled the covers over my head. I thought I was going to die. I never smelt anything that bad before.
March 9th, 2009 at 10:49 am
I shoot a .340 wby, will that be ok for wild Hog??
More than enough.Dont tell anyone but we set out corn and the hogs cant resist.Usually a 12 gauge works cause we are close when we shoot.Some use pitt-bulls to corner them but I raise pitts and will NOT hunt with them.Hoge sound like a freight train comming through the palmettos and we are very close when we shoot them..340’s and 308’s are 4 deer around here,cause them deer adr super smart
March 9th, 2009 at 10:51 am
hoGs sound like a train,sorry
March 9th, 2009 at 10:52 am
besides if we didnt use corn this place would REALLY be over run with hogs
March 9th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Lions would be stupid to pick Stafford No. 1. It’s the same trap San Fran fell into taking Alex Smith No. 1 overall. There was no consensus player in the draft that year worth taking No. 1 overall so San Fran just went ahead and picked the top-rated player at the most important position. How has that worked out? Well, Detroit is way worse than San Fran was at that time. They need help everywhere. Stafford may do OK somewhere, but he’s destined to fail in Detroit where they have one good WR and essentially nothing else above awful on their offense.
If I’m Detroit, I try to trade down. Since nobody probably wants the No. 1 pick, I’d take either Jason Smith or Curry and try to swing a deal with Cleveland for Brady Quinn with either the No. 20 or No. 33 pick.
Not sure why I felt the need to write so much about what Detroit should do on a Raiders blog. Sorry for wasting everyone’s time. Since we’re talking draft, I just think Stafford makes no sense there or anywhere before No. 10 really.
March 9th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Did you go to Branson & Silver Dollar City?
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RaiderKC: I got season passes brother! my wife and I go about 4-5 times a year
post #298 was a troll obviously …
March 9th, 2009 at 10:58 am
it’s all relavent Chris in NY
March 9th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Ok star,
This one is tricky,
Seatle : seatle just signed housh, but he is 31. Now seatle has many needs, but I still see WR, OT and RB as the 3 most important needs. Now since they have Matt and he is a very good QB with some years left in the tank, and also in a week division. You need a quick fix to make the PO. Now it all depends on seatles board. I say it comes down to WR or OL. So I say crab, maybe OL… You call that one.
Browns : Now the browns need DBs or a RB, Jenkins is raited higher than Wells or the G Kidd so I say they go with Jenkins if he does better at his pro day. If not I say RB.
Cincy: if the seatle goes with O line then no way cincy passes on Crab. Now they have a lot Of needs. OL, DL. Now do you remember who cincy wanted last year and couldn’t get. Yes Ellis but the saints took him, so Raji on a reach, or OL.
Now
The Raiders : what do you think?
March 9th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Chris in NY: I think the Browns would deal Derek Anderson before Brady Quinn…
If they don’t draft Stafford, they are obviously thinking Aaron Curry.
LB’s are dime a dozen in the right scheme. Ask Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Philly, Indy, etc.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:02 am
O R A K P O
O R A K P O
March 9th, 2009 at 11:02 am
I shot a few last spring near Holister with a .450 Marlin. It worked very well!
If you think Corn works good, try GoatChow!! I’ts got Molases in it, the Pigs and Deer try to fight over it…
March 9th, 2009 at 11:03 am
So star, and others,
What do you think?
March 9th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Al needs to work a trade with Cinci with Walter and Routt or something to that effect for Chad Johnson. Cinci needs a decent backup for Palmer.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Raider O
After all the money they gave TJ Hushmanzadeh in the off season do you think they go after another WR that high???? I can’t see the logic.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Raider O:
I got it this way …
1. Stafford
2. Jason Smith
3. Aaron Curry
4. Eugene Monroe
5. Malcolm Jenkins or Brian Orakpo
6. Andre Smith or BJ Raji
7. Michael Crabtree
March 9th, 2009 at 11:09 am
IMHO we need Oher! He has RAIDER written all over him. Trade down a few spots, pick up a extra second round pick.
With our second round pick, get the best Center left.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Dude, I read my last 2 posts, and I’m impressed. This is a real possible draft. Let me know what you guys think?
March 9th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Al needs to work a trade with Cinci with Walter and Routt or something to that effect for Chad Johnson. Cinci needs a decent backup for Palmer.
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CJ #85 isn’t for sale. otherwise they would have taken the 2 first rounders the Redskins offered last year.
They signed J.T. O’Sullivan to backup Palmer and WR Coles (Jets) to pair with Ocho Stinko
March 9th, 2009 at 11:11 am
We will never be a winner until Al realizes he needs to take linemen in the first round. Who had more impact last year, McFadden or Clady?
March 9th, 2009 at 11:12 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Chris in NY: I think the Browns would deal Derek Anderson before Brady Quinn…
If they don’t draft Stafford, they are obviously thinking Aaron Curry.
LB’s are dime a dozen in the right scheme. Ask Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Philly, Indy, etc.
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I agree. I thought Quinn looked very sharp when he took over last year. I heard reports that the new staff isn’t high on Quinn though and is shopping him. Doesn’t make any sense to me, but I’ve never been impressed with Mangini. When he came to the Jets he basically just acted like a poor imitation of Belichick as far as dealing with the media and with his own players even though he didn’t have 1% of Belichick’s resume. And Mangini ignored the fact that Jonathan Vilma — the Jets’ best player at the time — and several other young, high draft picks like Dwayne Robertson were 4-3 defenders and insisted on running a 3-4. By comparison, Mike Tomlin was a 4-3 d-coordinator who stuck with the 3-4 in Pittsburgh and already won a Super Bowl in his 2nd season.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Guys in my honest opinion I feel we need to not worry about the WR.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:14 am
4evaRaider,
The MTV generation? The ’90s just called….
This youth generation is not the MTV generation. This is the 9/11 generation. They don’t even like commercial rap. Nobody does. Commercial hip hop today is designed to make white people hate black people. BET is white owned. Today’s commercial hip hop is made for YOU. First it was Reagan using the term “welfare queens”, to make rednecks like you vote against your own financial interests, due to you hating black people so much that you’ll vote Republican to make sure they get jack shyt. Today, it’s commercial hip hop. They’re giving you the impression that black people in the ghetto are doing better than you are, spending their “guvment checks” on bling and car payments. Go to any ghetto for yourself and you’ll see that it’s b.s. But you’ll never do that. Your source on black culture is your t.v. set. They got you, hook, line, and sinker. The ghost of Reagan’s strategy to split the poor vote will be alive and well as long as there are dumb rednecks like you. Stick to talking hunting, stupid hillbilly.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:14 am
CJ,
That’s why I also said OL bro and I know they signed one, but let’s look at this way. Housh will never see the back end of that contract. Rookie WR take time to develop, and they also need DL and DBs but at 4!!! That will be a huge reach. That’s my logic, let me know yours plz.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:15 am
we need Oher! He has RAIDER written all over him. Trade down a few spots, pick up a extra second round pick.
With our second round pick, get the best Center left.
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that would be awesome if teams are willing to give up a 2nd rounder and take our #7 pick.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Raider O, I don’t like the Raiders taking Crabtree. If the guy has problems now, what do you think the NFL will do to him. He has to at least be able to run, cut and stop on that foot before the draft. Taking an injured player, especially a first rounder, is CRAZY!
Raiders rule!
March 9th, 2009 at 11:16 am
thats 4 them high fa-lutin hogs =)
March 9th, 2009 at 11:18 am
We got a 2 and 3 with Chaz and Higgins. Walker will be the no. 1 but Shields will take his place very soon I believe. People 4get a major knee injury takes 2 years to heal.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Rockstar,
As much as I hate drafting Crab, but yours also very possible. Now my questions to you is. Do you want crab in the 7th, or you just think that’s how it will go down?
March 9th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Brien just wondering if you saw this:
4evaRaider Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 10:10 am
I dunno Raccoon,I been from key west 2 canada,from maine 2 mexico and lots of places inbetween,I think it would be ok.And besides I went 2 lots of games when we was in L.A.,but I never been 2 Alameda.I consider it my last wish 2 go 2 as many games in Alameda B4 I die and tailgate with 408,Brien and Norco Bob
March 9th, 2009 at 11:20 am
4eva you are invited man to da tailgate!
March 9th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Raider Dave,
I agree with you 100%, and I also feel we have more important needs than WR, like our D line. I want Orakpo bro.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:23 am
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE,thankx Brien
March 9th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Raiders already have young talent at WR. OT or DE will be picked if we dont trade down
March 9th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Brien the General Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Guys in my honest opinion I feel we need to not worry about the WR.
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Like anyone cares about your opinion.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:23 am
I don’t think the old man will pass on Crabtree if he’s there…Tyson Jackson looks the part (6-4, 295) of the DE we need, I don’t think Al will reach for him with the 7th pick…
March 9th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Raccoon,
I agree, Oher looks to me like the best choice for the Raiders at this point, and we could even trade back a few spots and still get him, especially considering that the Jags are probably not looking to draft an LT in the first.
I wanted us to draft Oher last year, if he had come out early, now he has fallen in the draft a little, because “hot” prospects like Jason Smith had a good combine. But Oher has been in the SEC trenches for 4 years taking care of business, the guy is made for Left Tackle in the NFL. If we can fall into Oher in this draft, it would be amazing considering how hyped (well deserved) he has been for his entire career.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:25 am
As much as I hate drafting Crab, but yours also very possible. Now my questions to you is. Do you want crab in the 7th, or you just think that’s how it will go down?
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Raider O: It all depends on what happens in FA. The fact that Walker took a paycut, we passed on Terrell Owens and have been looking for tackles in free agency all points to me like Crabtree (if available) will be the pick.
I want a center, tackle and WR as our first 3 picks (in any order).
Russell needs all the help he can get! Crabtree is worth the pick at #7. Andre Smith might be a headcase like Khalif Barnes. Oher & Mack would be reaches, but would be a good fit imo
March 9th, 2009 at 11:25 am
When has Al EVER traded down? Exactly.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:26 am
4evaRaider Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 11:16 am
thats 4 them high fa-lutin hogs =)
Yeah it is a little pricey!
But, one 50lb (23$) bag should land 3-4 hogs, and a Buck or two if you got the time to sit and watch.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Al doesn’t trade down.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Al is a smart man, and he doesn’t want to give anyone the chance to punch him in the mouth. If he traded down, and somebody caught wind of his intentions, say trade down to take Oher with a later pick, there are a NUMBER of teams that would line up to swoop in and foil Al’s plan. Old man is smart, he won’t ever set himself up that way.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:30 am
And you are a douche bag if you actually think he would. Think about it.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Let me chime in:
Lions: Stafford -Culpep on 1yr contract & Stanton no answer – depends on interviews and pro-day
Rams: J. Smith – Pace is being shopped around..
Chiefs: A.Curry – Need and value – best player in draft
Seahawks: E. Monroe – Going to ZBS and W. Jones is old and may not fit
Browns: Orakpo – Need pass rush or Curry if Chiefs take Orakpo
Bengals: Crabtree – will take OT if Andre Smith does well in his pro-day etc. Have to replace T.J
Raiders: Raji – best player on the board and fills need
Jags: Maclin – worst receiving corps in the league
Packers: Everette Brown – need pass rush
49ers: Andre Smith
March 9th, 2009 at 11:30 am
So with the 7th pick? Crabtree, DL, OL or…..Malcolm Jenkins, you know Al loves his 1st round dbs.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:31 am
I like Henderson to be my LT. He needs to be out there gaining experience. Dont think starting in wins doesnt boost confidence.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Luigi’s brother held his own at the end of the season against some good DL’s brian.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Bengals: Crabtree – will take OT if Andre Smith does well in his pro-day etc. Have to replace T.J
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S&B: Bungles signed Coles from the Jets
March 9th, 2009 at 11:35 am
I agree brien, also Dmc, Bush and miller need thier catches too. Now if we are going to be a run heavy team, and we have Dmc who is a RB- receiver like Westbrook. Do you need another WR if you are only going to throw the bowl around 400 or a littls more times a year, how many catches? I say JR will complete .60 and im being kind so I say around 240. Now if Dmc gets 60 ( L Jordan had 70 under turner), Miller 70 -80 if we get him off the line, and JLH and Chaz get us 100 combined ( that’s fair). That’s 200-240 catches there don’t forget about bush and arman. These stats don’t include trick plays. As you see even walker is not needed, so why draft a WR in the 7th?????
March 9th, 2009 at 11:35 am
S&B: see post #236
I think you will be pleased. I know I was …
March 9th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Wow Terry Cloth aka the name you formerly used, thanks alot for those riveting posts.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Brian do you like Billie Jean King?
March 9th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Star, and others
Read my prev post and let me know what you think plz?
March 9th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Brien the General Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 11:20 am
4eva you are invited man to da tailgate!
Can I come too?? I can cook like a mutha fu(ker!!
March 9th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Brian what are you thoughts on Billie Jean King?
March 9th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Raider O,
Take it easy man, nobody likes a bager. You are starting to sound like a little b!tch.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Raider O how can you include Arman Shields in anything? He hasn’t played a single down of football in the NFL regular or post season.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Raider O I also agree:NO WR’s this year,imo
March 9th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Brian do you have an opinion of Billie Jean King?
March 9th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Drafting a WR is pointless at 7. OT or DE if Al doesnt bite on a trade. I still want Mario as the LT. Many on here want a rookie there.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Star,
We do agree on this, JR needs all the help he can get. He needs O line help and his WR to step up more and make more plays.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:42 am
I’m trying to think outside the box since we got 0% out of him as a Raider, need to get anything for him possible instead of paying him to ride the pine and be released next season. Pure waste! I was hoping Al and Jerry would have talked Walter and Routt/Fargas (fill in the blank) for DT Tank.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Brian do you have any opinions regarding Billie Jean King?
March 9th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Mario Henderson will get Russell killed if we start him all season. Henderson needs a whole lot more than confidence to become a decent LT in this league.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:44 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Defensive tackle Gerard Warren is the latest player targeted by the Raiders in a string of moves designed to free up enough cap room so that they can sign a few free agents from other teams.
Warren was due a $4.63 million base salary, $1 million workout bonus and a $500,000 roster bonus for the 2009 season as part of the contract he signed with the Denver Broncos.
The Raiders converted part of his contract figures so that he is guaranteed more money this season but counts less against the cap.
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The Raiders have a nice bit of money freed up under the cap. What happens to Terdell Sands? He has an expensive contract for his role on the team. Gotta think he will be coming to get a financial adjustment too.
Davis is having a nice offseason. Re-signed Nnamdi, C.J and Lechler to those BIG contracts while simulataneously clearing plenty of cap space.
I think Davis hired an advisor and didn’t announce it.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Oher at #7…
I have seen the light..
The winner in camp will MAN the left side, the other will MAN the right.
I for one would love to see Oher at RT, but only if Super Mario is the real deal.
I have spoken!!
Wiz.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Terry I will answer that as soon as you tell what your former name was on this blog.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Raiders defense, 31 against the run, so teams didn’t need to pass much, but when they did, they had success. It can’t all be scheme, so we need to fix our D line. After that if still not successful, then LBs.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Mario Henderson will be our starting right gaurd!!
March 9th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Paul MQ will be the center.!!
March 9th, 2009 at 11:50 am
The Raiders are not going to be able to fill all the gaps on this team in the draft. DT, C, RT, maybe LT, maybe WR.
The Raiders have a poor track record of getting bonnafide starter value out of any pick beyond the 2nd round. In my opinion, can’t really count on those mid to late round picks to make a meaningful impact in 2009
Mario Henderson played well, but according to many here needs to be replaced.
JLH is a punt returner, Schilens may develop into a #2
Appears Kirk Morrison has lukewarm support at best
Wide receivers rarely make an impact in their rookie year. Like QBs, it takes time to learn routes, read zones, develop chemistry with the QB.
Best bet is to take the best player available at #7 for the DT, DE or OT positions.
Round 2, has to be a Center with prospects available
Rounds 3-7 – Big roll of the dice and hope for the best
March 9th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Urgent D line help. We need depth at DT, and talent at DE. We have enough speed at the LB, and talent on the DBs, our D-line sucks though.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Arman was held out last year because that knee hadnt had a year of recovery. He is seen as the possession WR due to his size,route running,speed and hands
March 9th, 2009 at 11:51 am
MaddenRaider
March 9th, 2009 at 11:54 am
hmmmmmmmmmmm,very interesting
March 9th, 2009 at 11:54 am
There isnt any NT help in the 1st round. DE or OT in the first
March 9th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Did we hire a new ST assistant coach by the name Aaron Pelch?
March 9th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Kevin McMahan will be in camp this year. We are now set!
March 9th, 2009 at 11:57 am
MR spells my name correctly and is a worthy adversary plus he,unlike you, is funny.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Later guys.
March 9th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Right right, how about Al Davis’s favorite of all time Ryan Hoag??
March 9th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Chris in NY Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Lions would be stupid to pick Stafford No. 1. It’s the same trap San Fran fell into taking Alex Smith No. 1 overall. There was no consensus player in the draft that year worth taking No. 1 overall so San Fran just went ahead and picked the top-rated player at the most important position. How has that worked out? Well, Detroit is way worse than San Fran was at that time. They need help everywhere. Stafford may do OK somewhere, but he’s destined to fail in Detroit where they have one good WR and essentially nothing else above awful on their offense.
If I’m Detroit, I try to trade down. Since nobody probably wants the No. 1 pick, I’d take either Jason Smith or Curry and try to swing a deal with Cleveland for Brady Quinn with either the No. 20 or No. 33 pick.
Not sure why I felt the need to write so much about what Detroit should do on a Raiders blog. Sorry for wasting everyone’s time. Since we’re talking draft, I just think Stafford makes no sense there or anywhere before No. 10 really.
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Agreed…they should pick an OT or Curry. They won’t be able to trade down, due to nobody wanting the #1 pick.
Then pick QB Josh Freeman with the 20th pick.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
377 is not the real coon!!
March 9th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Olanda Truitt any one???
March 9th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Shields was a 4th rd pick. This isnt like McMahan or Holland. Try again
March 9th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
…going on for weeks and months and a year, and time Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Urgent D line help. We need depth at DT, and talent at DE. We have enough speed at the LB, and talent on the DBs, our D-line sucks though.
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The DE spots need players that are bigger and stronger and more stout against the run. The DT position needs a strong and stout bs the run NT type…not an UT.
Robert Ayers would fit in really nicely as the RDE in the 4-3 IMO.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
If Crabtree is brought on board then it will mean that either Schilens or Shields will be the 2008 version of Todd Watkins.
Spot duty, barely on the roster type.
Javon Walker is playing this year and JLH will be out there because of his big play ability.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Warren cut? Thank god. Draft a real nose tackle.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
S&B (BJ Raji / Tyson Jackson @ 7 because run d is 31st) Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 11:50 am
The Raiders are not going to be able to fill all the gaps on this team in the draft. DT, C, RT, maybe LT, maybe WR.
The Raiders have a poor track record of getting bonnafide starter value out of any pick beyond the 2nd round. In my opinion, can’t really count on those mid to late round picks to make a meaningful impact in 2009
Mario Henderson played well, but according to many here needs to be replaced.
JLH is a punt returner, Schilens may develop into a #2
Appears Kirk Morrison has lukewarm support at best
Wide receivers rarely make an impact in their rookie year. Like QBs, it takes time to learn routes, read zones, develop chemistry with the QB.
Best bet is to take the best player available at #7 for the DT, DE or OT positions.
Round 2, has to be a Center with prospects available
Rounds 3-7 – Big roll of the dice and hope for the best
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I agree. The thing is it’s tough passing on a talent like Crabtree if he is there. Thats why I am big on TRADING DOWN this year if possible.
There will be WR’s who can compete and contribute in Rounds 2-4.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Lions are taking Stafford or Curry. Read a feature where those were the only two guys they took out to eat at the combine and paid a lot of attention to, doesn’t mean everything but means something.
This is the Lions we are talking about folks, trading down, bolstering their lines, all that is what smart teams try to do. Again these are the Lions, Matt Stafford will be the pick.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Jerry,
Do your job sir and report the news of the new ST AC? I hope you feel better now.
Later guys.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Take the D-Line in the 1st round.
Like Mario Williams versus the flashy Reggie Bush.
Bush is now a utility back that is oft injured. Mario Williams will terrorize QBs for another 10 years or so
March 9th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Craptree wont be here
March 9th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Lions are taking Stafford or Curry. Read a feature where those were the only two guys they took out to eat at the combine and paid a lot of attention to, doesn’t mean everything but means something.
This is the Lions we are talking about folks, trading down, bolstering their lines, all that is what smart teams try to do. Again these are the Lions, Matt Stafford will be the pick.
^^^^
Trading down is hard for them because this is one of those years there is no consensus #1 and no team is that desperate to trade up to the #1 spot and pay that huge contract to an unproven rookie.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
maybe the Lions can defer =)
March 9th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
#390,
Sometimes the top pick is more a curse than a blessing. This would be one of those years.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
I dont understand all of you that are saying that we need a player to produce right now.
This year we only can hope for a 7-9 8-8 year, maybe 9-7 (at best)
JR never gonna be a Playmaker with schillens, shields and JLH NEVER, not even with the best offensive line. Thatsa why I only see Crabtree as our only option if its there.
Crabtree before the combine was the best player in the draft almost in all the College Ranks.
I month ago we only can dream having him.
Now its posible, if we dont draft him, I think its a BIG mistake.
Crabtree its the playmaker JR needs to be great. Im sure it wont be this yeear, but in the future thats the best pick we can make.
Please Al Draft Crabtree if its there.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
El NegroyPlata says,
I dont understand all of you that are saying that we need a player to produce right now.
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Because despite Davis’ words, he has no patience for losing. And when coaches lose they get fired.
So any 1 and 2nd rounder has to be contributors from day 1. Otherwise we will be talking about Jim Fassell or Terry Robiskie to Oakland again
March 9th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Bullshyt about Craptree. He doesnt run pro routes like Shields did in college. He isnt as big or fast as Chaz. Also he isnt the big play guy like JLH. People really dont watch college football.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Crabtree is totally over-rated. He will do nothing to improve this team now or in the future. Winning teams have aggressive and deep lines on both sides of the ball. We need OT’s, Centers, DT’s, DE’s and gaurds.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
yep
March 9th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Repost action….
# In front of ya momma’s house Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 11:14 am
4evaRaider,
The MTV generation? The ’90s just called….
This youth generation is not the MTV generation. This is the 9/11 generation. They don’t even like commercial rap. Nobody does. Commercial hip hop today is designed to make white people hate black people. BET is white owned. Today’s commercial hip hop is made for YOU. First it was Reagan using the term “welfare queens”, to make rednecks like you vote against your own financial interests, due to you hating black people so much that you’ll vote Republican to make sure they get jack shyt. Today, it’s commercial hip hop. They’re giving you the impression that black people in the ghetto are doing better than you are, spending their “guvment checks” on bling and car payments. Go to any ghetto for yourself and you’ll see that it’s b.s. But you’ll never do that. Your source on black culture is your t.v. set. They got you, hook, line, and sinker. The ghost of Reagan’s strategy to split the poor vote will be alive and well as long as there are dumb rednecks like you. Stick to talking hunting, stupid hillbilly.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
People who speak on Craptree falling for fools gold. WR screens from a noodle arm qb impresses you?
March 9th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
BBB,
Tell AZ and Pitt that “winning teams” need OT, C’s and guards. Both had below-average O-line’s, they both played like crap in the Super Bowl, but they both almost won because of amazing WR play.
Crabtree would improve this team, this team that in 2008 may go down as a historically bad WR unit.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Brien,
I am not sold on Crabtree either. No one has seen him run the NFL style routes yet and he is not going to have the benefit of a spread offense.
In Oakland its mostly 2 receiver sets with Miller.
I would be totally for him had he come from a more pro-style offense. Especially for a receiver that high
March 9th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
I played in a rock-n-roll band for 14 years traveling the country punk try-again.Yo mamma have any kids that lived you dip-sh!t.Hell 4 all I know I’m yo daddy.Who’s yo daddy punk
March 9th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Craptree lacks the intangibles and athleticism to be an impact player in 2009.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Brien the General Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
People who speak on Craptree falling for fools gold. WR screens from a noodle arm qb impresses you?
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How about the run-after-the catch? Very impressive.
Wes Welker came from Texas Tech and had some of the same play-calling. He continues to catch all these little “screens” and short passes in the league, about 100 a year.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
S&B:
Even Al says that he dont think this team its ready to make a run to the super bowl or even the playoffs.
He wants to win but knows what he have right now.
And believe me we areng going to be a contender wit Raji or Jackson this year, but we can be the best offense in the next decade with Crabtree
So, what do you prefeer: win .5 or 1 game next year, or win 2-3 super bowl next decade?
March 9th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Id rather draft raji that craptree
March 9th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
In front of ya momma’s house Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Repost action….
# In front of ya momma’s house Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 11:14 am
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We piss in front of ya mommas house
March 9th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
than*
March 9th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Vegas,
1. All of those teams’ lines could dominate our lines
2. Crabtree is NOT Larry Fitzgerald, not even close
March 9th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
JR, DMac and Crab = Aikman, Emmith and Irvin
3 super bowl rings with those guys.!!!!!!!!!!!
March 9th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Welker isnt a number 1 is he? YAC for craptree comes from wr screens. Not sold
March 9th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
The NFL is a trend league. Right now the trend is having a tough, opportunistic D, and having play-makers at WR who can catch jump balls and makes plays in the open-field.
The last two years the Super Bowl has had WR’s catching 5 TD’s in the 4TH QUARTER!! 3 of them have been on jump balls inside the red zone (Moss, Plax and Fitz).
March 9th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Only if Crab its not there, i say draft an OL (Eugene Monroe or Andre Smith)
March 9th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
El negro, you miss to point out those 3 hall of famers are very different than 2,20, and Craptree
March 9th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Got work to do in FA if we want to be competetive next year. We need to target OL, Justin Miller, and possibly an OLB.
Battle plan: sign Justin Miller, Preston and Barnes =
LT=Henderson, Pears
LG=Gallery
C=Preston, Wade
RG=Carlisle
RT=Barnes, Mcquistan, Green = Deep OL
Then:
Round 1- Raji, Curry, Rey, T Jackson or Crabtree
Round 2- Best WR avail if Crabtree not taken in round one, best DT avail, or best LB avail
Rounds 3 and on- Best defensive player avail
Can’t rely on J Walker or Shields so we still gotta get another WR within the first 2 rounds, shouldn’t grab a C in round 2 w/ Preston avail and so many needs to fill
March 9th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Yea vegas craptree not winning many jump balls in the nfl!!
March 9th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Vegas,
1. All of those teams’ lines could dominate our lines
2. Crabtree is NOT Larry Fitzgerald, not even close
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1. Pittsburgh and AZ O-line would not dominate ours, although their D-lines certainly would have last year. No doubt you need a good D-line, but teams are getting by and playing in Super Bowls with mediocre O-lines. Fact.
2. Crabtree is not Fitz, but who is? Crabtree will be an impact player, IMO.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
I got my name because the trolls can cum on me without dripping.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
#416,
Why not? He is still taller than most DB’s.
Having him at WR next year, I mean we could do a lot worse couldn’t we?
March 9th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Inoneword, wrong. Raji or craptree wont be here. Back to the drawing board
March 9th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Brien:
I know they arent similar players, But I believe with this trio, we will nhave the same dominant offense that the cowboys has in the 90s
March 9th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
4evaRaider, I’m just wondering then why you’d refer to today’s adolescents as the “MTV generation”. That’s a term people commonly used to refer to adolescents 10 years ago. Are they the last generation? Today’s youth are not influenced by MTV. They’re not influenced by anything. They’re a rebellious generation. They rebel against liberalism, conservatism, activism, patriotism, pretty much everything that matters to their elders, because they have absolutely zero respect for their elders. This is because their elders are mindless sheep, who sit on their fat asses and watch t.v., and think taking some kind of medication for urinating too much is the answer to their problems. If you don’t want to be accused of being an out of touch redneck, stop using outdated terms to describe young people.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
I only see Crabtree going to somewere else if some other team tride up to take him before us
1.- Detroit (No way)
2.- Rams (Posible ONLY if Detroit picks Andre Smith, and that wont gonna happen)
3.- Kansas (Posible only if detroit picks Curry, even in that scenario I see them going in other direction)+
4.- Seattle (With all the money they have in their WR, i dont think they select crabtree, Maybe if they cut Branch they will pick him)
5.- Browns: Only if Orakpo/Jenkins/Brown/and Curry (and its imposible that scenario
6.- Bengals (No way), they select 3 WR in their last Draft, also they have 85, and Coles
7.- Raiders: Crabtree
March 9th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Brien the General Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
People who speak on Craptree falling for fools gold. WR screens from a noodle arm qb impresses you?
^^^^^
I guess that is 98% percent of NFL draft analysts, NFL scouts, draftniks, mock drafters, and draft webmasters then huh?
So your part of the 2% that think Crabtree is no good….LOL
March 9th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
In front of ya momma’s house, I was born in the Ghetto.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Vegas, craptree doesnt jump that well at all! He isnt a bad mutha like fitz,moss,cj,andre,TO,chad,or steve smith. He isnt an impact wr!
March 9th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
I was born in Houston’s 5th ward.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
The same guys who said gallery was cant miss? Akili Smith? Rashan Salaam? Thanks.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
crabtree it is mel kiper has him number 1 yeee
March 9th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Vegas,
Respectively disagree on Crabtree. It’s only my opinion, so I am not gonna pretend to be smart; I just don’t see anything special when I watch the highlights of Crabtree, just a lot of crossing routes where he victimizes college zone defenses and then gets ran down from behind by LB’s.
As for our line, it is dreadfully bad. Next season’s version is shaping up to be worse without some help.
LT-Henderson is a joke out there on the blindside
LG-Gallery is decent, but only one good season
C-we just lost our starter
RG-30 something Carlisle is back, and another year older
RT-Greene is the worst starting tackle in the league, but so far there is no guarantee that replacing him would provide any improvement
March 9th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
what impressed me about crabtree was his size and strength to pull in that one catch against texas to win it. The strength to pull in the catch with someone on his arms, the balance to stay in bounce and score.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
big time players make big plays and big games, easily the biggest play in college football last year.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
GW, I was born in Houston’s 5th ward. You can’t be serious by saying that you were.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Maybe not Brien, but he would be our best WR, starting week 1. Now that may not be saying much, except we have issues at WR.
I like JLH, but he is a returner, big-play guy. Not a 80 catch a year guy. I liked Schilens a lot last year too, seemed to make the play everytime the ball was thrown near him. But they aren’t that good to where you pass up on college’s #1 reciever. Unless Al is about as hot as him as you are.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Damn experts shytty words mean nada. I form my own opinions based on what I deem good or bad!
March 9th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Mr. Bo, I’m as serious as a heart attack.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Brien the General Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
The same guys who said gallery was cant miss? Akili Smith? Rashan Salaam? Thanks.
^^^^
How many years ago were those guys drafted??
10 years ago??? LOL
March 9th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
GW, I think yer a lying
March 9th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Mr. Bo, if I’m a lying, I’m a dying.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Maybe if Crabtree was 5′10 and weighed 190 pounds and ran a 4.35 some of you would like him more huh?
Weird….
March 9th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
El NegroyPlata Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
JR, DMac and Crab = Aikman, Emmith and Irvin
3 super bowl rings with those guys.!!!!!!!!!!!
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Richards, Kelly, Sands < Tolber, Casillas, Lett
Green, Carlisle, Wade < Williams, Gogan, Stepnoski
March 9th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
I can’t believe this! You’re not going to believe this but I too was born in Houston’s 5th ward!
March 9th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Last yrs can’t miss DT from LSU didn’t do squat with the Chefs, so who says Raji will be an impact? And if we swung and missed on a can’t miss LT with Gallery, who really wants to waste this pick on Andre Smith??? That fool showed up fat & out of shape for the biggest job interview of his life! He’s a slug and I wouldn’t waste a 1st or 2nd round pick on him. He obviously has no work ethic and will come to camp out of shape every yr.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
you can accuse me of anything you want.I have a daughter who is 18 and sometimes she listens 2 that mindless garbage that some young people listen to.Soo it shows how out of touch you are by accusing me of being out of touch.I grew up in a rebellious generation,against all my eldars believed in.My generation wanted truth and justise 4 all and world peace and the legalization of weed,knowing that its not the devils weed.I;ve been called many things but a redneck is NOT 1 of them.Pot smoking hippie with hair down 2 my waist playing music that had meaning,real meaning promoting real change in peoples lives,ALL peoples lives.And thats too bad yo mamma has to take medication for her urinary problems,but I can understand why,after spitting you out,punk
March 9th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
BBB,
No sense going back and forth on Crabtree, time will tell. I think he will be a guy that goes to a few Pro Bowlers and will be a top 15-20 WR guy. May not be worthy of #7, but he will make plays in this league. Few collegiate WR’s dominate in top conferences like that and don’t excel (Mike Williams being the recent exception).
No doubt our O-line needs help, esspecially at C. I would love to take Alex Mack or another top rated C in 2nd or 3rd round. However, when it comes to the #7 pick, I would rather take the top WR (crabtree) or top DT (Raji), than 3rd best LT (as top 2 will most likely be off the board).
March 9th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
1 more thing B4 I dismiss you,MY generation paved the way 4 youre generation,you have NO IDEA of what we went through,so if any one is out of touch it’s YOU.You may go
March 9th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Damn trolls. Just because I said I was born in the Ghetto all these troll celeberties have to say they were born in the Ghetto to.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
BBB, I dont agree with you at all on Henderson. He is much better than Harris and Sims. Dealt with great DEs and Russel was a different Qb. Al agrees. Left tackle 09.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
4eva,
Two cheers for the pot-smoking hippie (musician) with hair down to his waist. You and my father were of the same ilk, he was a blues bassist.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
4eva is da man!
March 9th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Time to get high. See ya later.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Vegas,
I know my words wont change your mind on Crabtree, but watch some of the highlight reels of him at T-Tech, and decide for yourself.
Either way, I think the pick at #7 will come down to who Al can manage to snare during FA. With Barnes and Willis both seemingly off the table, I think OT becomes the priority.
I have also seen several mocks lately that have the Raiders selecting Maclin OVER Crabtree. Not sure I agree with that sentiment, but interesting nonetheless given Al’s predisposition for speedy WR’s
March 9th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
well I gotta take my dope-smokin-growing butt to the store and get some Fosters.I never knew rednecks drank a worldly brew like Fosters.BBL NATION
March 9th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
BBB,
If we do pick an OT, please no Andre Smith. No more headaches, we need intelligent winners with a passion for football, not ultra-talented loafers with a me-first attitude. Been there and done that.
Don’t see Maclin as an elite NFL receiver, but again who am I. I watched the highlights and a lot of games of Crab, left it thinking he was the best receiver in college. We shall see how that translates in the pro’s.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Another player that I think would be a good fit on the O-Line is Eben Britton.
If they trade down…they target him as well. He would be a solid fit with the power zone system as a LT or RT.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Thankx Brien&Vegas,now I a little thirsty so I’m really going 2 da store
March 9th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
BBB,
If we do pick an OT, please no Andre Smith. No more headaches, we need intelligent winners with a passion for football, not ultra-talented loafers with a me-first attitude. Been there and done that.
Don’t see Maclin as an elite NFL receiver, but again who am I. I watched the highlights and a lot of games of Crab, left it thinking he was the best receiver in college. We shall see how that translates in the pro’s.
^^^^^Maclin will just be a slot WR at best IMO.
Crabtree is better. Bigger, stronger, better hands, long arms…great body control.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Russell was getting better at the end of the season, but that had nothing to do with Henderson. I would say Russell helped Henderson, way more than Henderson helped Russell.
Maybe Henderson gets better with playing time, a lot of confidence, and the title of “starter”; but his so called ‘performance’ has more to do with FBs, TEs, JaMarcus and lady-luck than Henderson’s own skills
March 9th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
4eva grab me a 40 O 211!
March 9th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Vegas,
I like Crabtree but, like Calvin Johnson in 2007, he will only be as good as his QB and OLine. I just think that taking a WR at No7 is a reach. There will be other good WRs available at No39 including (probably), Kenny Britt, Percy Harvin, Brian Robiskie, Louis Murphy and Juaquin Iglesias. One of these four may prove better value than Crabtree. Murphy is particularly intriguing prospect – quick, good size and probably under-used at Florida.
I still think Andre Smith is going to be hard to reject at No7. You just can’t pass on that sort of Oline talent – even if he is a bit immature.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Russell was getting better at the end of the season, but that had nothing to do with Henderson. I would say Russell helped Henderson, way more than Henderson helped Russell.
Maybe Henderson gets better with playing time, a lot of confidence, and the title of “starter”; but his so called ‘performance’ has more to do with FBs, TEs, JaMarcus and lady-luck than Henderson’s own skills
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Can you post up the link to these highlights? I watched the highlights on NFL.com and didn’t see Henderson getting an unusual amount of help and seemed to hold his own.
Are you rewatching the games or are you looking at highlight clips
March 9th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
The old man needs to STOP putting 40 times as a priority and drafting track stars and START drafting tough minded football players who give it their all!
March 9th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
New post
March 9th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Andre Smith is just too scary for NFL teams to go after early on in the draft. To disappear at the combine like he did, fully cognizant of the kind of financial repercussions that would have. It is very “Barrett Robbins-esque”. I am shocked that people are still mentioning him as a choice for us, especially since many scouts consider him an NFL gaurd, rather than tackle.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Scottish Raider Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Vegas,
I like Crabtree but, like Calvin Johnson in 2007, he will only be as good as his QB and OLine. I just think that taking a WR at No7 is a reach. There will be other good WRs available at No39 including (probably), Kenny Britt, Percy Harvin, Brian Robiskie, Louis Murphy and Juaquin Iglesias. One of these four may prove better value than Crabtree. Murphy is particularly intriguing prospect – quick, good size and probably under-used at Florida.
I still think Andre Smith is going to be hard to reject at No7. You just can’t pass on that sort of Oline talent – even if he is a bit immature.
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I agree with that….plenty of WR’s will be there in Round 2 and 3 if necessary.
If the no other OT is signed in FA….then the #7 pick may just be an OT.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Crabtree, Crabtree, Crabtree….that’s all you fools ever talk about. You sound like a broken record. Get over it. That’s right, I’m talking to you, Bart Bridge. Just go away.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Bart,
He acts like a junior because he is a junior. He will mature, he will wise-up. Bottom-line, he has the biggest upside of any of the top four OTs. I say take him at No7, play him at RT for a couple of seasons and, once his maturity matches his physique, think about moving him to LT.
The more you review the alternatives, the more you have to think that Andre Smith is great value at No7.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Oher at #7…
March 9th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Remember that the Raiders run a zone blocking system. That means athletic blockers with agility right? The top OT on Cable’s draft board might not necessarily jive with the consensus draft board.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
I still think if Crabtree is on the board, Al will take him despite the slow(er) speed.
I don’t know that even a ‘reformed’ Al can resist taking the highest rated offensive player in the draft.
I would venture to say Al takes the best guy at his position (Crabtree) and gamble on a T in 2nd or 3rd, as he won’t get the best T no matter what he does.
If Crabtree is gone, T is the pick. Our pursuits in FA would indicate we’re after one and if we don’t get one via FA, its the draft, though probably just not at #7.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
S&B,
I am watching highlights on NFL.com. Watch the “NFL Game Day, Raiders vs Bucs highlights” First play, watch Henderson take on the RDE. Without the chip-block by the back, that guy would be draped over Russell.
Then at 1:10 watch Henderson flop trying to stop his man, and only Russell’s quick toss avoids the sack.
Contrast that to Harris using his hands to battle with DE’s earlier in the season.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Scottish, You don’t know squat. Why do you feel the need to pretend you know anything about the NFL? everyone knows you are simply regurgitating draft info.
Why bother? You outed yourself as a know nothing last year when you were signing Kiffin’s praises. as i remember it, you bashed Al repeatedly and claimed Kiffin had the team going in the right direction. OOOPS! Stick to Futbol, Scotty!
March 9th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Oher in the 1st,
Trade up with our 2nd and a futer pick back into the first round and grab Pettigrew, then
Trade whatever it takes to get a high second round pick to get Mack!
STUD LT,TE,and C all on day one, all starters day one!
March 9th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
I love sleeping with trolls. I especially like it when they fart in bed and pull the covers over my head. Yummy!
March 9th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Litsen you little Troll fa6,
If you’ve got something to say to BBB say it under your own name. Even though it has no credibility.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Wiz, the problem with Oher is that he has struggled somewhat against the quickest OLBs when facing 3:4 defenses. He would be great in establishing the run but I think his questionable pass-protection means he will probably fall out of the top 10. Possible target for the Redskins at No13?
And his wonderlic score will be important – he is being marked down through worries about his intelligence.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
hey Vegas you must’ve had 1 great dad growing-up =)
March 9th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Seriously Scottish, Where do you get this stuff?
March 9th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
I like Scottish troll farts the best!
March 9th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Remember that the Raiders run a zone blocking system. That means athletic blockers with agility right? The top OT on Cable’s draft board might not necessarily jive with the consensus draft board.
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good point. Andre Smith or Michael Oher may not be the selection at #7. Could be somebody between rounds 2 & 6? zbs is known for finding guys in the later rounds or even undrafted. Carlsile, Pears & Green are examples of this. Grove & Harris were high picks, but flopped. Gallery flopped at tackle. Henderson is still very raw.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
All left tackles struggle somewhat against the quickest OLB’s in the 34. The difference is that Oher did it in the SEC, while Monroe and Jason Smith played in conferences with weaker defenses. Andre Smith also struggled somewhat with the quickest OLB’s while playing in the SEC but he has more uspide against the run.
I still place Oher slightly ahead of Andre Smith though, because of the Barrett Robbins factor.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Scottish Raider Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Wiz, the problem with Oher is that he has struggled somewhat against the quickest OLBs when facing 3:4 defenses. He would be great in establishing the run but I think his questionable pass-protection means he will probably fall out of the top 10. Possible target for the Redskins at No13?
And his wonderlic score will be important – he is being marked down through worries about his intelligence.
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That is called postering, he is pretty smart for a jock, I think he wants it more than the rest.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
I would draft Oher, in the worst case he is a stud RT.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
I’ve smelled hog farts before and those are bad enough. Don’t think I ever want to try a troll fart though.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Sorry BBB you know that wasn’t me right? I think you’re all right, dig? Maybe a little stubborn and pig-headed at times, and not that bright, but all right all the same.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Andre Smith is a top-level talent, however, he has shown to lack maturity, and he totally hung his teammates out to dry in the bowl game. Than compound that with his actions at the combine, makes for too many red-flags.
I doubt he is going to be a HOF, so even if is a pro-bowl level RT, the risk reward doesn’t add up. What if he goes #7, we dump 25 million on him, and after two years he is pushing 400 pounds and on his way out of the league. That is not a worry out of the other top 3 LT propsects.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Don’t really care Kool Kell or whoever, I am on here to talk about the Raiders while killing time at work, not make friends.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Seriously 4eva, You wouldn’t mind a Scottish troll fart that much. They have sort of a hint of barley in them.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
BBB,
Thanks I’ll take a look at the highlight film. Which game in particular were you looking at. Bucs, Pats or Texans?
March 9th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
4evaRaider Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
hey Vegas you must’ve had 1 great dad growing-up =)
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Great dude and a helluva musician (god rest his soul). You know the musician type, on the road and such, not the greatest of dads, but could have been much worse. Stepped up to the plate when needed.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Maybe a little stubborn and pig-headed at times, and not that bright, but all right all the same.
about as glowing a compliment as can be paid by KK.
I think it boils down to FA guys. If no T (FA), and no Crabtree, Smith or Oher. If no FA T and Crabtree available, Kropog or a facsimile in 2nd or 3rd.
I think the fact that ZBS incorporates speed and agility makes it so that you don’t need the biggest top-rated guy, as stated before.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Scottish, I’m calling you OUT.
Where do you get your information?
Is it a secret source?
March 9th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Don’t really care Kool Kell or whoever, I am on here to talk about the Raiders while killing time at work, not make friends.
Doesn’t sound like you’re making friends at work either. How about pulling your own share?
March 9th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Go ahead you little bed wetter. Hijack my name. To say things to people you don’t have the heart to say yourself.
Question:
Was it abuse by your stepfather, that causes your anti-societal pathology?
March 9th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Who goes away if Crabtree gets drafted?
Is it Shields? Schilens, JLH or Walker.
The Raiders don’t run a pass heavy offense so only 3 receivers are going to get significant work.
Who goes? I think it will be Shields that gets banished to Todd Watkins land.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
I think traditionally people have used the ZBS as an excuse to get cheaper lineman, but now even the Donkeys got their LT in the first round, and Al wants to infuse power into Cable’s zone line. Power and agility equals first-round talent, so I would not be surprised to see the Raiders placing Monroe, J. Smith and Oher at the top of their list.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
No secret source. It all just depends on how you break wind. That’s all.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
As for Defensive End. What’s the biggest challenge? Pass rush or run stopping. Burgess and Scott are decent pass rush guys when healthy and on the field but are questionable against the run.
Richardson is the only DE that is supposedly stout against the run but he’s a depth guy at best.
1st round options:
If pass rush is the issue: Orakpo, Brown
If run defense: Tyson Jackson
March 9th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
The donkeys use cheaper linemen and their farts still smell better than troll farts.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
S&B: Shields. Sad, as he wouldn’t have really had the chance to shine. Walker’s too expensive and needs PT to justify contract. Chaz/JLH got PT last season. As 1st rd. pick, Crab will get PT
BBB: Very true, but Denver got by for years on ZBS w/o the benefit of 1st rounders, neccecarily. It wouldn’t surprise me if we took a T at #7, I just don’t see it as likely if Crabtree is there, and forgive me if I sound like a broken record.
All that being said, I say we really need to go after defense on Day One.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
S & B,
Shields would seem to be the weak link of that group, although I don’t think 5 WR’s on the roster would be unfounded (Crabtree, JLH, Schilens, Walker and Shields). Walker is out after next year, even though they guaranteed his contract next year.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
I think traditionally people have used the ZBS as an excuse to get cheaper lineman, but now even the Donkeys got their LT in the first round, and Al wants to infuse power into Cable’s zone line. Power and agility equals first-round talent, so I would not be surprised to see the Raiders placing Monroe, J. Smith and Oher at the top of their list.
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Its not about cheaper lineman. Its just that not all top prospects fit. Jason Smith or Eugene Monroe may fit very well. Power blockers like Andre Smith and Michael Oher probably don’t fit.
Tackles have to move and excel at nasty cut blocks. Not just pancaking guys.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
it seems 2 me that Big Al is developing a new hy-brid offense.Fusing the ZBS and beefy O-linemen,with a brusiser like Bush and a speedster like Dmac.WOW this year could REALLY be something.Gawd I cant WAIT!!!!!!!
March 9th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Ne post girls
March 9th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
The Raiders had a decent Left Tackle at the time they drafted Gsllery. That didn’t work.
Now you want to do the same thing. Draft a Rookie, to replace a known commodity at LT. Moving that known commodity to an unknown position. And replace that known commodity at the known position with an Unknown commodity?????????
March 9th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
LAto the Bay / Vegas Raider,
I think Shields will be the odd man out too and hence that 4th round pick wasted. If they draft Crabtree they should go ahead and cut Walker so the young guys get all the reps.
The Raiders really need to develop some sort of cohesive strategy to building the roster. Too many draft picks are used to cover up for other recent draft picks. For example, a new LT means the TWO 3rd rounders used to get HEnderson were wasted. Drafting Crabtree is a repudiation of the 4th and 7th round picks used to get Schilens and Shields just last year. Another speed rusher really marginalizes the 6th rounder used to get Trevor Scott. A new MLB degrades the value of the 3rd used on Morrison.
We also have to use ANOTHER 2nd rounder on a safety and Gallery’s number 1 has never paid off.
That’s why this team has all these gaps. Because they rarely seem to be able to adequately fill any of them.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
S&B (BJ Raji / Tyson Jackson @ 7 because run d is 31st) Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
As for Defensive End. What’s the biggest challenge? Pass rush or run stopping. Burgess and Scott are decent pass rush guys when healthy and on the field but are questionable against the run.
Richardson is the only DE that is supposedly stout against the run but he’s a depth guy at best.
1st round options:
If pass rush is the issue: Orakpo, Brown
If run defense: Tyson Jackson
your right on the de.but the raiders also need a dt,ot,c in the first two rounds and they have painted themselfs in a corner at the center position so we can assume they will grab one of those stud centers in round two.so that brings us back to round 1.de,dt.ot
i say b.j. raji.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Sup NATION???
did we get any oline help yet??
March 9th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Whatuuup nation,
So who cares about a ST AC. Now to more important things, did we sign any FAs??
Also crabtree at 6′1 215 with not much speed is nothing special. Winning jump balls!!!??? Why Nnamdi is 6′2 and CJ I’d 6′1.
Jammer and Cro are both over 6′0, and champ is 6′0.
In todays NFL the CBs are getting taller to be able to cover people like buress, fits, and all the other big WRs. Look around, the age of the small CBs is gone.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
The Raiders were pathetic last year and they haven’t added any new players.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
4evaRaider Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
it seems 2 me that Big Al is developing a new hy-brid offense.Fusing the ZBS and beefy O-linemen,with a brusiser like Bush and a speedster like Dmac.WOW this year could REALLY be something.Gawd I cant WAIT!!!!!!!
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Has that every worked? The Raiders need to identfy a strategy and stick to it. A power blocking zone just sounds like a compromise. The Raiders run game will improve if they would just freekn play Bush and McFadden when healthy and have Fargas be the 3rd back.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
The Draft is 6 weeks away, and some of you guys are so attached and dug into your own fantasies, you can’t see anything else.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
S&B,
I think we are both saying the same thing. I just see Oher as being a decent candidate for Al’s Zone-Power fusion. Many college LT’s have the speed and agility to play in the ZBS, some just end up as gaurds and right-tackles. Andre Smith on the other hand is purely a power blocker, from what I have seen.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
The Raiders had a decent Left Tackle at the time they drafted Gsllery. That didn’t work.
Now you want to do the same thing. Draft a Rookie, to replace a known commodity at LT. Moving that known commodity to an unknown position. And replace that known commodity at the known position with an Unknown commodity?????????
kk is right.all these rookies have zero games in the pro`s.henderson has 5 starts last year and gave up zero sacks.(k.c.,buffalo,new england,houston,tampa bay)if bush can get kudos for a 177 yard game against tampa and 90 yards againts k.c henderson can get credit for zero sacks in 5 games.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
All you McFadden haters last draft said he wouldn’t be selected. Now the Crabtree haters (same folks) are bashing him. Take Crabtree if Al doesn’t trade out to get more talent. With this zone blocking scheme, Lyndon Murtha from NU (6′7, 306lbs, 4.89 40yr dash) is big and athletic enough to handle the RT spot as a rookie and he could be picked up in the middle rounds. And what’s with Chris Morris from Michigan St? Is he no good at center or at least back up center?
March 9th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
sup 408!?!?!?!?!??????!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!
March 9th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Orakpo and T Taylor the NT from Mich through the draft, and adding a LB free agent and S
should help the defense. And through the draft get a center , OL, WR, to help JR.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Blackdeath29 says,
your right on the de.but the raiders also need a dt,ot,c in the first two rounds and they have painted themselfs in a corner at the center position so we can assume they will grab one of those stud centers in round two.so that brings us back to round 1.de,dt.ot
i say b.j. raji.
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Yeah, the Center situation means the 2nd round is likely devoted to that position.
I agree with you on Raji. Bring Raji in and he can play the UT or NT. He’ll take on the double teams and let the ends and Lbs do their jobs better.
I’ve said this before, but the best option would be to move Tommy Kelly to DE and have him line up over the right tackle. He can play the run and still get some pressure on the QB. Have Warren move to UT and Raji at NT. Then draft or pick up another NT for depth.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
505, 512: Not me. What’s wrong with you troll? Did your mamma make you watch her do it with the milkman?
March 9th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Raider O Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Orakpo and T Taylor the NT from Mich through the draft, and adding a LB free agent and S
should help the defense. And through the draft get a center , OL, WR, to help JR.
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Raider O, Terrence Taylor is going to be a 4th round pick. He will not be a difference maker. No 2nd day pick for the Raiders ever become difference makers. I don’t care what position they play.
Rounds 3-7 is for depth. Not starters..at least in Oakland
March 9th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Wow 512 isn’t KoolKell. I don’t buy it, seems like an appropriately negative KoolKell to me.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
KK,
What else is there to talk about? There hasn’t been any signings, no one wants to talk about the new ST AC (LOL),so fantasies and draft it is.
By the way, you never answered my question!!!!
March 9th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
KC
all due respect Im still not impressed with McFragile… If Crabtree is the pick so be it.. How does that make me a hater???
March 9th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
4eva its beer:30… Did we get any Oline help???
March 9th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
I’m just saying the Draft is 6 weeks away, nood need to close your minds at this point.
What question?
March 9th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
RaiderKC I have been wondering that myself.Morris should be our Center as he is going into 4th year.I thought last year he would get more pt but was deemed not ready.I was hoping he would work out thus saving a draft spot.Thats why I was hoping 4 Mack because we dont know what we have with Morris.Wade was brought in 4 insurance purposes and that worked out good when Grove went down again.But no matter what we need more than 2 centers.Good question about Morris tho,I hope he can play or it’s another wasted pick,imo
March 9th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
What do you know, or makes you think that jay can play MLB? And I say that cause I look at him and I see Base DE at 6′6 280 with no speed to rush the passer, so what makes you think he can cover or even be able to make plays from the MLB position?
March 9th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Kelly is too big to be DE anymore. Jason Taylor is still out there and might be at a decent price to be closer to hollywood. Our light weight DE’s like Burgess didn’t get many sack either. Dorsey didn’t do much run stopping for the Chefs last year and he was picked by a lot of you on this board as the #1 pick Oak should have taken.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
That D-Mac commercial on NFL network shows how skinny dude’s legs are. They are ridiculous thin, I was amazed when I first saw it.
I still believe he will turn into a Charlie Garner type, over 60 catches a year and some big games. Not a banger though, Bush is going to have to carry most of the heavy load.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
New post is up
March 9th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
You guys need to bang the drum a few times and see what kind of crawdads come to the surface before you go making any definitive pronouncements, that much is for sure.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
S&B (BJ Raji / Tyson Jackson @ 7 because run d is 31st) Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Blackdeath29 says,
your right on the de.but the raiders also need a dt,ot,c in the first two rounds and they have painted themselfs in a corner at the center position so we can assume they will grab one of those stud centers in round two.so that brings us back to round 1.de,dt.ot
i say b.j. raji.
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Yeah, the Center situation means the 2nd round is likely devoted to that position.
I agree with you on Raji. Bring Raji in and he can play the UT or NT. He’ll take on the double teams and let the ends and Lbs do their jobs better.
I’ve said this before, but the best option would be to move Tommy Kelly to DE and have him line up over the right tackle. He can play the run and still get some pressure on the QB. Have Warren move to UT and Raji at NT. Then draft or pick up another NT for depth.
the raiders want move kelly to de.he`s fine at dt.55 tacles 4.5 sacks coming off an acl is pretty good.the problem warren is a 3 technic(dt) like not a 1 technic(NT),so is joseph.sands is a real 1 technic (nt) he`s just not good at it.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Bush should have been the starting halfback.
The fact that he wasn’t, shows how stupid Cable is.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
You guys need to bang the drum a few times and see what kind of crawdads come to the surface before you go making any definitive pronouncements, that much is for sure.
Ha ha ha ha ha haha ha
March 9th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Vegas,
I agree with your last post, and miller is better than any TE we had in the Garnner years. JLH and Chaz are good for a 100 catches combined. And we will be a run heavy team, so why invest our 7th pick in the 1st on crab, when there are more important needs?
March 9th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Brien the General Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 11:57 am
MR spells my name correctly and is a worthy adversary plus he,unlike you, is funny.
Brien, thanks pal.
When do you want to kick it?
March 9th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
S&B,
I think we are both saying the same thing. I just see Oher as being a decent candidate for Al’s Zone-Power fusion. Many college LT’s have the speed and agility to play in the ZBS, some just end up as gaurds and right-tackles. Andre Smith on the other hand is purely a power blocker, from what I have seen.
just to calm you guys down al did not invent the zone blocking with power.teams have doing it for some time.must notable (cal,usc)and what line coach did the raiders sign.and what center are the raiders high on.more pro teams are doing it than collage.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
I said last year to trade Fargas and use McFadden/Bush as the two backs, but some on here jumped me because Fargas is a loyal RB who deserves to stay. He was injured yet again and isn’t probably worth much in a straight up trade (inj/age), but is a great locker room presence at millions of dollars and a roster spot. Hell promote him to management as Team Leader and let our two young studs earn the fear and admiration from the rest of the league.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Vegas,
I was dying when I saw that ad during the superbowl. I still maintain he is an amazing player, but man those legs look silly on him. He needs to stay away from black leotards when he is working out.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Raider O,
I think we could do a lot worse than Crabtree, and I don’t think he is a “bust” potential, he will have a productive NFL career, the question is he worth the #7 pick.
I still think the best pick in the draft is on the defensive side of the ball at #7 (Orakpo or Raji) and C at #40.
JLH and Chaz could combine for 100 catches, but if Crabtree is as good as advertised, he might do that by himself. Worth taking a hard look at him if he is there at #7.
March 9th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Fools.
March 9th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
hey 408 I got my Fosters Ale Brother,but my IM on yahoo disappeared
March 9th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
I like both Crabtree and Maclin. Either would make sense at No. 7.
If the Raiders wait until the 2nd round they may miss out on Britt, Nicks and Harvin and then what do you do? I’m not a fan of Darius Heyward-Bey. Great athlete but poor hands and never put up good numbers in college. He could also be gone by that 2nd round pick.
March 9th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Onterrio Smith is at the Raiders HQ for a workout!
March 9th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
4eva sometimes you have to set your status to available
March 9th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
I think traditionally people have used the ZBS as an excuse to get cheaper lineman, but now even the Donkeys got their LT in the first round, and Al wants to infuse power into Cable’s zone line. Power and agility equals first-round talent, so I would not be surprised to see the Raiders placing Monroe, J. Smith and Oher at the top of their list.
^^^^^Yep! Plus we have all discussed this before….the will be running more of a POWER zone system next year. Getting a DOMINANT OT should be priority rather being worrying about getting a 6′5, 300 pounder.
March 9th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
RaiderKC Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
I said last year to trade Fargas and use McFadden/Bush as the two backs, but some on here jumped me because Fargas is a loyal RB who deserves to stay. He was injured yet again and isn’t probably worth much in a straight up trade (inj/age), but is a great locker room presence at millions of dollars and a roster spot. Hell promote him to management as Team Leader and let our two young studs earn the fear and admiration from the rest of the league.
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Agreed. Gotta play the best players right? This isn’t the rec league or pop warner. play the best players.
Problem with Fargas is he is injury proned and he has no hands. Therefore, he is pretty one-dimensional. His running style is hard but not patient.
3rd string back that should be used to spell the starters (Bush and DMAC)
Plus, you know Bush is a keeper. I just hope Davis doesn’t get worked over in a b.s trade deal
March 9th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
408 ist 408pm…
March 9th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
WTF… cheep azz MNG cant even reset the clock…
March 9th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
# Raider O Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Vegas,
I agree with your last post, and miller is better than any TE we had in the Garnner years. JLH and Chaz are good for a 100 catches combined. And we will be a run heavy team, so why invest our 7th pick in the 1st on crab, when there are more important needs?
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Raiders have to move the chains on 3rd down. They were dead last, even behind the Lions, in 3rd-down conversion percentage last year. Not being able to convert 3rd downs hurts both the offense and defense. To get better in that area, the Raiders need a reliable, go-to, No. 1 WR like Crabtree has the potential to be.
Yes, there are other needs, but don’t discount the importance of having a polished WR who can get open and catch anything thrown his way. That’s what moves the chains, keeps drives alive and keeps the defense off the field.
March 9th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Cali Boy up Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Onterrio Smith is at the Raiders HQ for a workout!
Yeah right and after that we will be working out Charles Roberts… LOL.. Dude you and your inside info need to go to bed!
March 9th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Brien the General who’s gonna get Crabtree b4 us? I would say only KC has a good chance to pick him but if anyone else does it would be a bad move as there are plenty other avenues they need to address and just about evey mock draft agrees he’ll be there. If they’re both gone we should go T Jackson, Curry, or Rey as my plan states
March 9th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
I like both Crabtree and Maclin. Either would make sense at No. 7.
If the Raiders wait until the 2nd round they may miss out on Britt, Nicks and Harvin and then what do you do? I’m not a fan of Darius Heyward-Bey. Great athlete but poor hands and never put up good numbers in college. He could also be gone by that 2nd round pick.
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I could see Crabtree but Maclin? Why? Because he runs fast? Raiders already have two receivers that run a sub 4.40 and a third that has explosive speed
Shields / Schilens = 4.38 40
JLH – 4.45 40
Raiders already have players that stretch the field. If they insist on receiver, it should be a guy like Crabtree.
Regardless, all he will end up doing is stand on the sidelines watching the opponent smash our tender defensive line with 15 and 20 play run heavy drives
March 9th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Jerry, it has been 24hours, give us a reason to believe.
March 9th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Don’t discredit Seattle still making taking Crabtree. They saw first-hand within their division what two great WR’s did for AZ, and they may try to mimic them. As John Madden says this is a copy-cat league.
March 9th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
darkknight01 Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
I think traditionally people have used the ZBS as an excuse to get cheaper lineman, but now even the Donkeys got their LT in the first round, and Al wants to infuse power into Cable’s zone line. Power and agility equals first-round talent, so I would not be surprised to see the Raiders placing Monroe, J. Smith and Oher at the top of their list.
^^^^^Yep! Plus we have all discussed this before….the will be running more of a POWER zone system next year. Getting a DOMINANT OT should be priority rather being worrying about getting a 6′5, 300 pounder.
they also have to get a stud center or it all blows up!!!!!
March 9th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Samoas girl scout cookies are the bomb!!!
March 9th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
especially after a big fatty =)
March 9th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Vegas,
I was dying when I saw that ad during the superbowl. I still maintain he is an amazing player, but man those legs look silly on him. He needs to stay away from black leotards when he is working out.
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Just saw the ad. LOL!!
March 9th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
hey 408 I mean the WHOLE IM box is now gone
March 9th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Seattle will NOT take Crabtree. Branch, Burleson, Houshmanzeda ALL are on roster and ALL make big $.
Crabtree will fall to 7. Raiders and “Genious” Al dont take him they are idiots.
By the way to all you “Remember the Raiders tradition, its only 6 years” people. In the last 20 years, the Al Davis’s Raiders average 6 and 1/2 wins per year.
March 9th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
The Raiders have the worst 5 year stretch in NFL history.
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March 9th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
But yeah, Al’s still got it. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 9th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
4eva you got the new yahoomail or classic??
March 9th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Later folks
March 9th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
S&B,
Maclin also has very good hands. He’s mis-characterized as a pure speed guy. Maclin is basically the same size as Tim Brown and probably 15-20 other current or past great WRs I could rattle off if I thought about it for a couple of minutes (I know because I already did this on a post a week or two ago).
The reality is he put up numbers that were basically identical to what Crabtree posted last year as a receiver. I think Maclin’s numbers were actually better than Crabtree’s in every category except TD catches, where he was still pretty good. And Tech threw the ball 20% more than Missouri last season, so there were likely more opportunities for Crabtree.
I’m not trying to knock Crabtree, because I’d give him the edge over Maclin, but I don’t think the difference between the two is all that great. Maclin is faster. Crabtree is a SLIGHTLY bigger and a LITTLE more polished. That’s about it. I’d say the odds are against it but I wouldn’t be shocked if some team decided to draft Maclin ahead of Crabtree.
March 9th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
408 maybe it was a promotional or something and we just happened 2 hook up on that day that way.I guess I got classic???
March 9th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
C-YA Vegas =)
March 9th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
just try the new beta or what ever its called then you have messenger built in…
March 9th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
JohnnyTyler is a DlCKHEAD.
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March 9th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
post 570 LMMFAO!!!
March 9th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Chris in NY, I hear Maclin is SOFT.
What say you?
March 9th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
hey 408 Cohleen has it on her side,so I ask her 2 set it up on my side 2morrow
March 9th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
To ignore the D-Line and O-Line on a team that is 5-11 and has lost for 6 yrs doesn’t make sense.
Teams can win games with good line play and very average skill players (Dolphins, Ravens, Vikings, Titans)
The Giants make a living on the strength of their lines.
I have not seen any teams be successfull with poor O-Line AND D-Line. Not one. The Steelers got by with a bad O-Line but they had a boss defense.
If the Raiders use duct tape to fix the D-Line/O-Line we will all be back here in the fall debating why the defense blew yet ANOTHER 4th qtr lead or why some O-Lineman gave up a sack that caused a fumble.
The term “Build Inside Out” needs to apply here. Because the Raiders have the best cornerbacks, have had good receivers (Moss) and the result has always been the same.
Crabtree/Maclin/Heyward Bey is like opting for Cotton Candy when what you needed to eat was steak and mashed potatoes!
March 9th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
This is the year the Raiders break the losing streak and get to the playoffs. I hate to say it, but it’s probably true.
March 9th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Maddenraider Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Chris in NY, I hear Maclin is SOFT.
What say you?
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I also hear that he mostly played in the slot and has little experience lining up on the outside.
March 9th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
The thought of the Raiders in the playoffs makes me ill.
March 9th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
5 O’clock it is Highball time….
Yall got to try this one…BEST EVER!!!!
Pappy Van Winkle’s Family Reserve
15 years old – 53.5% abv (107 proof)
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March 9th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Truth hurts, eh boy?
March 9th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Chris in NY, I have an old boyfriend who loves MIZZU, he says although Maclin was they’re best player, he was also the most disliked. My buddy says he lays out on the field everytime he gets touched and he pouts if he isn’t always the man.
Did you see many of his games?
March 9th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Name a Superbowl team winner or loser that did not have at LEAST a good recieving core?
March 9th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
We make fine Bourbon. At a profit if we can, at a loss if we must, but always Fine Bourbon.
March 9th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
S&B (BJ Raji / Tyson Jackson @ 7 because run d is 31st) Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
To ignore the D-Line and O-Line on a team that is 5-11 and has lost for 6 yrs doesn’t make sense.
Teams can win games with good line play and very average skill players (Dolphins, Ravens, Vikings, Titans)
The Giants make a living on the strength of their lines.
I have not seen any teams be successfull with poor O-Line AND D-Line. Not one. The Steelers got by with a bad O-Line but they had a boss defense.
If the Raiders use duct tape to fix the D-Line/O-Line we will all be back here in the fall debating why the defense blew yet ANOTHER 4th qtr lead or why some O-Lineman gave up a sack that caused a fumble.
The term “Build Inside Out” needs to apply here. Because the Raiders have the best cornerbacks, have had good receivers (Moss) and the result has always been the same.
Crabtree/Maclin/Heyward Bey is like opting for Cotton Candy when what you needed to eat was steak and mashed potatoes
I swear S&B I was just ready 2 make a comment EXACTLY like that.Last couple of years we had all the candy we could stomach;I want some MEAT&POTATOES!!!
March 9th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
581, 2001 BALTIMORE RAVENS
March 9th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Jonnie Idiot – Answer: The Patriots.
March 9th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
JohnnyTyler Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Name a Superbowl team winner or loser that did not have at LEAST a good recieving core?
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Ravens – winner
Bears 06 – lost
March 9th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Plus the Steelers in 2005 won a super bowl with no quarterback.
March 9th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Cali Boy up Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
581, 2001 BALTIMORE RAVENS
Whatch ya got Jonny Raable??
March 9th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Hey Dirty Raccoon,make some deal with Big AL and sell it at our home games!!! The NATION will LOVE YOU
March 9th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Seahawks
March 9th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Patriots WRs as a group was good. Branch was MVP, moron.
March 9th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Jonnie Idiot;1967 Green Bay Packers
March 9th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Ravens- Wrs were not good. That was the exeption I thought of.
Bears- Had Muhammed, Berrian and Gage. Not great, but decent.
So, 2 teams in how many years?? Point proven.
March 9th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Ravens and Bears also had historic type D’s. Good offense + decent d= winning team
Raiders right now have BAD both.
March 9th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
I want the Raiders to draft Crabtree which means…they won’t draft Crabtree. I never get what I want.
March 9th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
4evaRaider Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Hey Dirty Raccoon,make some deal with Big AL and sell it at our home games!!! The NATION will LOVE YOU
Try a glass 50/50 whiskey to water with a few good/large cube of ice. Goes GREAT with Deer chops!
March 9th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
trade up get aaron curry lol
March 9th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
watch they trade up to get maclin
March 9th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
They need both a reciever and d lineman. I dont think there really is any arguing that, right?
March 9th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
I will admit theyre DL sux, but theyre WRs suck worse.
March 9th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
MaddenRaider,
Never heard those knocks on Maclin about being disliked and soft. Never noticed it in the games I’ve seen him play either. I know people pointed to him getting hurt at the combine but apparently he was going all out on a ball that was poorly thrown. He returned to drills right after hyperextending his knee too. Those criticisms could be valid, I just haven’t seen it. He didn’t miss any games this past year. I don’t think he missed any the year before either. I think he tore an ACL like three years ago but seems to be fully healed.
Playing in the slot is true but I don’t see what the big deal is in making that transition. Chase Daniel didn’t have a very good arm so they probably had to keep Maclin in the slot to get him the ball more often at closer range with shorter throws than you would see with deep outs, post corners and such.
March 9th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Dirty Raccoon Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
4evaRaider Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Hey Dirty Raccoon,make some deal with Big AL and sell it at our home games!!! The NATION will LOVE YOU
Try a glass 50/50 whiskey to water with a few good/large cube of ice. Goes GREAT with Deer chops!
2 tell you the truth I not 2 big on whiskey but I will purchase a small bottle and give it a try =)
March 9th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Why are all Raider fans idiots?
Answer- They are Raider fans, what do you expect?
Cant wait to dominate you this year AGAIN!
March 9th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Why are all Raider fans idiots?
Answer- They are Raider fans, what do you expect?
Cant wait to dominate you this year AGAIN!
March 9th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Chris in NY,
If Percy Harvin, Hakeem Nicks Heyward-Bey, or Robiskie played in the Nintendo Offenses of Missouri or Texas Tech, they would be the number 1 consensus receivers.
Those offenses don’t run the ball. They pretty much throw, throw, throw.
And the defenses on those teams are so bad that they have to air it out 1,000 times.
Nintendo Offenses raise red flags for receivers (goofy routes and spreads), QBs because they are in shotgun and don’t have to read defenses, OTs because they work from a standing position.
March 9th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
dream-on blow-boy
March 9th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Crabtree!!! Crabtree!!! Crabtree!!! Big Al is building his dynasty Jerry Jones style with his own big three. The Raiders will dominate the next decade with at least three Super Bowl championships!!!
March 9th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
When Cable was intro’d as HC he said that he would rely heavily on AD’s wisdom and knowledge. Cable said it would be a privilege to work under such circumstances. Now if Cable courted Khalif and AD nixed the Barnes signing, it does appear sound. Barnes is not stellar but wants star money. Can’t fault him, but the idiotic process where a single underperforming athlete is paid more than 150 or 250 school teachers is way more than out of whack.
Back to the point, perhaps there are O-lineman out of college who are the focus in April and not just a Walter Jones wannabe out of Jackville.
March 9th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Dream on?
Dont have to dream about the last 6 years
Dude, I dont care who the Faders draft, but have you ever even seen Crabtree play? Its a seriuous question.
March 9th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Where did Welker go to college?
March 9th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Crabtree will rock the house!!!
March 9th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT9BmG7_PJ4
I thought this might help everyone appreciate Asomugha and Chris Johnson. haha.
March 9th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Did one of you Fader fans seriously tell me to “dream on”? Wow
March 9th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Well 4eve, there is still da King Cobra.
March 9th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Jerry’s inaction is not a good thing
March 9th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
at the risk of sounding silly,what is king cobra
March 9th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Does anyone know why we flipflop picks with the Jags in subsequent rounds?
March 9th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Michael Crabtree
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm9gAYutAwg
March 9th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
4eva… use to drink it by the gallon when I was a kid..
malt liquor…
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/139345498_455263110_0.jpeg
March 9th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Two score and ten years ago the AFL fathers brought to us the Raider Nation. Conceived in imbibery and mayhem, the likes of Powell, Cotton & Ben, Otto, Birdwell and Lassiter hallowed the ground. A Cable guy now at the helm, undeterred by recent history and naysayers, promises to renew the legacy for the long remembered and very honoured who once fought upon the turf. That the last best hope of Footballdom shall not perish fron the Earth.
Lincoln Kennedy (perhaps)
March 9th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
thanks 408.I really never drank 2 much which is kinda funny because I probably played in a million dives.I was ALWAYS into the da skunk.back in da day it was mich light 4 me.Now of course,with my refined palette,its a Fosters party,with skunk of course
March 9th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Imagine…
QB – Jamarcus Russell
RB – Darren McFadden
WR – Javon Walker
WR – Michael Crabtree
WR – Johnnie Lee Higgins
TE – Zach Miller
Substitute Walker out for Oren O’Neal or Michael Bush and you have one heck of a young and talented group of football players that can hopefully be around for decades.
March 9th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
I love sleeping with trolls. I especially like it when they fart in bed and pull the covers over my head. Yummy!
I like Scottish troll farts the best!
No secret source. It all just depends on how you break wind. That’s all.
Why are all Raider fans idiots?
Answer- They are Raider fans, what do you expect?
Cant wait to dominate you this year AGAIN!
Hhehehehehe Hahahahahaha hwhwhwhwhw hehehehehehehe
I got it going on bro!!!!!!!
March 9th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Guiness and NewCastle.
Thats what its all about.
March 9th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
I think somebody stated Welker played at Texas Tech
March 9th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
#24 Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Michael Crabtree
I dont think Crabtree will see those types of screens in the NFL,imo
March 9th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Ewe! I just went to bed with a Charger troll. Sob farted and pulled the covers over my head. I thought donkey farts smelled. Ewe!
March 9th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
After six terrible seasons in a row, does anyone really think this next one will be any better; and if so, why? Tom Cable? Yeah, right. Because of all those great players Al is gonna draft and sign? HA Ha! Really, what is going to change this year?
March 9th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
4evaRaider – Maybe not but those catch and runs has a little Curry flavor to them. The fact is…with SO MUCH talent sitting around Crabtree, it would become difficult to defend against as long as Jamarcus is ready for it.
If Walker comes back strong from an injury season and can perform the way he has in the past, he may surprise and take on double teams. If not, Higgins will command alot more attention as he has become a playmaker and a deep threat for Russell’s arm. Miller is JR’s safety net and will be one on one with linebackers for the most part and thats his advantage. Slide McFadden into the slot and you start to complicate things. Adding Crabtree puts everyone in single coverage and forces defenses to play it safe and could keep JR off his back and allow him to have time to see the field and spread the ball around effectively.
The worst thing that could happen would be to continuously put Fargas in there as hes one dimensional. He should only be in the game in order to give McFadden or Bush a breather. McFadden should have 20 carries, Bush 10 carries and Fargas 5 at the most. McFadden, Bush and O’Neal are all capable of catching passes out of the backfield as well.
March 9th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Nevva A Raduh – Nothing is going to change until it changes. I don’t think we should realistically expect anything to change until the team proves it can get it done. Until then, its fun to talk Raiders football and hope for the best…if the Raiders aren’t good next year, at least my expectations weren’t very high to begin with right? If they are good then thats a plus.
March 9th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Ewe I’m such a pathetic loser, ewe, the only thing I have in life, is writing disgusting things on a blog. Ewe.
March 9th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
The Raiders have a very very good young foundation both on offense and defense. The Raiders easily could have been 8-8 last year if Kiffin didn’t sell out the team. Once Cable got in there and got some things ironed out, the team went 3-3 in their last 6 including winning their last two in a row.
Contrast that to a Charger team that has gone from 14-2 to 8-8 in 2 years, a Bronco team that went 2-4 in it’s last 6 games including losing 3 in a row, and a Kansas Sh**ty team that was 2-14. You may hate it trolls, but the Raiders are on the rise with Tom Cable. And we have the overall #7 and #39 picks in the upcoming draft. Eat sh** and die losers.
March 9th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
In fact…McFadden doesn’t necessarily have to have 20 carries but 20 touches. 15 carries and 5 catches or some variation of that. Either way, I think you have to mix Bush in there to keep the offense fresh and add some smashmouth football to the mix just to keep the defenses off.
March 9th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
With all this talent, it could only be wasted by putting Fargas in there consistently, only to watch him run as hard as he can until he reaches that 3 yard threshold, only to get knocked down as usual. Man that guy runs hard…..
into nothing.
March 9th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
I sure do like smelling Al Davis farts though. The smell lingers forever. Yummy!
March 9th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Imagine having Craptree and your team is still soft. Yea imagine a team that doesnt play a wr like chaz who contributed to the teams play late in the year
March 9th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
I’m soooooooooooooooooooooo lonely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 9th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Ok #24 with JLH and Miller out there if we were to draft Crabtree he would get open or the others will be open,you are correct there.But,imo,we need 2 run and 2 do that I think we need a couple of big uglies.But it is tempting with Jmacs arm.Its that old fisherman dilemma:fish or cut bait,fish or cut bait……
March 9th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPz7caPqoJE
Yes…More Crabtree.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
I don’t care who we draft. As long as he’s big fat and ugly and farts like there’s no tomorrow.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
All I need is for somebody, anybody, to notice me, please god!!!
I can’t take it anymore, being shut away from society. This is my last connection to life, snifile, snifle. Just don’t ignore me, please. Please no registration Jerry, please, please, please. I’ll kill myself.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
well NATION as per usual excellent conversation 2day,until 2morrow take care
March 9th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
This is about the time last year when mini camp was going down a player opened the eyes of the coaches named JLH! I told this to all but I was laughed at!
March 9th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
and oh 1 more thing
DRAFT MACK
March 9th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
I just scratched my balls and they bled orange and blue.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
4evaRaider – Don’t get me wrong. I’ve said it before. If the team thinks its better to go after an offensive or defensive line player that they think is worth drafting early enough, go for it. I’m never against it. It just doesn’t seem like the guys who can make the biggest difference in the draft will be available when you compare what Crabtree can do for you at the #7 pick. If Davis/Cable deem that a particular line player is better than everyone else at #7, go for it. I wanted the Raiders to draft Chris Long last year because of that very reason.
I was for drafting Robert Gallery because its a risk worth taking. At #7 this year…Crabtree has the best value in my opinion, when you consider who’s left on the board. Outside of that, I like Maualuga because I think our defense seriously lacks that destructive force in the middle. Granted, without really good DT play, it probably wouldn’t make a different but Kelly will be better this year. Warren is not a bad player. The problem is the depth. The team tires those guys out too much and they have been required to do too much with lightweight defensive ends next to them.
#1 Priority – Protect JR.
#2 Priority – Stop the run.
#3 Priority – Skill Positions.
#4 Priority – Depth
The Raiders have been addressing the offensive line in free agency with guys Cable feels is right for their system and it seems that Davis is making the call on not overspending for these guys.
Who can we draft in Round 1 that can help stop the run? Another DT? We need to fill out the DE position with guys who can stop the run or its not going to matter whos at DT. Orakpo is light and probably won’t be available. Raji should be gone as well. If you want to stop the run behind the line, Curry or Maualuga come next. Curry will be gone. Maualuga would be the next logical choice at that point.
Next comes the skill position. We’ve exhausted that area for the most part but when you consider what you need to get at the #7 pick, you go with the best player and the biggest position of need. That to me equals WR + Crabtree. If we were picking earlier and we had an opportunity for one of the other guys, then I would be for that instead. Otherwise, sign what you can in free agency to fill those voids and draft the best player available at a position that can use the upgrade.
Walker is no guarentee to bounce back. Schilens showed flashes but hes not a lock. Higgins is the most promising with his playmaking but he also giveth and taketh so is he over that finally? Shields is an unknown. Adding Crabtree adds insurance and 1st round talent and we all know JR desperately needed someone to throw to last year unless you want Lelie again if all else fails.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Somebody let me know when BHP comes online. Now there is a man who appreciates troll farts!
March 9th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
4eva – You have to be kidding me. Now you’re leaving? Nice timing.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Pathetic Troll
Why don’t you go slit your throat, and put us all out of our misery, ok?
March 9th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Now mini camp is here next week. I expect the new staff to be blown away with Bush and Dmac plus the obvious more confidence gained Mario Henderson showing he needs to start at LT. You heard it here first!
March 9th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
#24 nice post but the poster on this blog can’t read that much without losing their attention span. The Reader’s Digest version would have suited them better.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Hey Brien I was always with you on JLH.I think I started posting here last March,cause thats when we got our 1st computer,but I read JLH bio on the web site and his yards per catch was like 27.1 or something really sick like that.Instantly reminded me of Cliff Branch,so I’M with you on JLH and Big Al can still pick ‘em.OK I really out this time,I just saw Brother Brien post and enjoy his post GOOD NITE NATION
March 9th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
So koolkell sir, without all of al davis hate speech what should be done in 09 to make this a better squad?
March 9th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
ok ok I will open another Fosters Man I love you guys
March 9th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
JLH really emerged last year. So did Chaz. We need a LT to take the heat off of Jamarcus and enable us to run toward the left side. One of the good LT’s would be a good choice in the lst round and one of the good centers in the 2nd round. If both Unger and Mack are gone in the early 2nd, then you can go DL with either Michael Johnson or Senderick Marks or Ron Brace.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Draft Mack
March 9th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
4eva is a cool guy. He is welcomed when he comes out to a game
March 9th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
The Raider defense will be better under Marshall. The defense did not play that bad, they were just on the field too much.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
KK! It’s good to see you here! You’re just the man to give a precise description of what troll farts smell like. The floor is yours my friend.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Look at it this way. If Walker gets beaten up in Vegas again, we would have Crabtree, Higgins and Schilens as our trio. Not too shabby!
March 9th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
I see the biggest hole on the roster at this point, is Center. I’d like to see them get Mack. But as I said the Draft is 6 weeks away. I assume there will be more adjustments to the roster by then.
I’m not feeling Crabtree at this point.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Well, since you asked. The secret to long lasting troll fart smells is to never and I mean NEVER wash your sheets or blankets.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
I sure hope the Raiders defense will be better. Rob Ryan was here one too many years. Marshall seems better suited to call the type of defense Al Davis seems to prefer but we’ll see. The defense has to play well within the scheme as well but I think they will. I’m still waiting on the signing of Chris Johnson. I wonder what the snag is.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Just dont see Mario giving that spot up in 09. I watch much college football and no player as a rookie tackle will start over him.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
KoolKell – Why not Crabtree?
March 9th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
I see the biggest hole on the roster at this point, is the trolls big hairy anal oriphice. But once you get past the smell you’ve got it licked.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
#1 Priority – Protect JR.
#2 Priority – Stop the run.
#3 Priority – Skill Positions.
#4 Priority – Depth
Agreed
March 9th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
I don’t see WR as a pressing need. I believe our Young WR’s plus Miller, Dmac, plus Mario Henderson will be just fine.
I’d rather draft Mack at #7 if we go offense. Too high? maybe.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Well this puts a new spin on “can you smell what the Rock is cooking?”
March 9th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Kell we agree that we need a center badly. Ever since Robbins the oline has been unacceptable. Beating Gruden was huge for this franchise but to fully wake up again we need a guy like Mack. The Raider centers are suppose to be tough and durable. Time to get back to that.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
I see the biggest hole on the roster at this point, is Center. I’d like to see them get Mack. But as I said the Draft is 6 weeks away. I assume there will be more adjustments to the roster by then.
I’m not feeling Crabtree at this point.
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Pete’s Inner Adult: no…
Pete: i gotta…
Pete’s Inner Adult: don’t do it…
Pete: but i really want to…
Pete’s Inner Adult: no…
Pete: but it’s easy… it’s right there…
Pete’s Inner Adult: i said no…
Pete: hey, Koolkell… can you feel
Pete’s Inner Adult: STOP !!!
March 9th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
A figure of speech Pete, ok?
March 9th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
We could obviously use a center but at #7? Thats a reach for a player that should be around for us in round 2.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
lmao
March 9th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Brien the General Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 11:57 am
MR spells my name correctly and is a worthy adversary plus he,unlike you, is funny.
Brien, Thanks pal.
When do you want to kick it?
March 9th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
As it stands right now, it’s John Wade.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
#24 from what I’ve read the stealers covet Mack.Whoever gets him is set and ready 2 make a run 4 a long time,imo
March 9th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
If we had to…going into the season with John Wade and Chris Morris isn’t a terrible thing. I would rather draft one of the top 4 Offensive Tackles and try for Mack, Unger or Alex Fletcher in the later rounds.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Florida Pete, you are a pathetic little fa66ot.
I was a regular in here long before your koolaid drinking A$$.
Respect my authority!
March 9th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
The Steelers can afford to reach for a player because they have talent at every position. Theres a reason they have 6 Superbowls and probably counting.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
I shot heroin in Hong Kong.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
If the Raiders want Mack, they should trade down, get more draft picks and draft Mack in order to justify the whole situation.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
It would be nice if we could get Mack with our 2nd, but I doubt it.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
I’m just happy I don’t have to make those decisions. Its going to be a tough draft.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
I didnt think the stealers O-line was that good,but if they get Mack
March 9th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Yeah, this not like the JaMarcuss draft, where it was so obvious. This draft, the Raiders could go several different ways.
Although we need a Center. 31st rank Run D, but what do you do with Kelly/Sands/Warren? Defensive End?
March 9th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Huff, I think we are ALL happy you don’t make those decisions.
LIGHTWEIGHT!
March 9th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Barrett Robbins was the last GOOD center we’ve had. He made the O Line work. He was, or rather his absence was one of the main reasons we looked so bad in our last SB appearance. Yes I know they knew most of our plays and yes we were definitely out-coached but Our great O lines were always headed by a pro Bowl center. Getting the best center is as important as out OLT need.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
It would be nice if we could get Mack with our 2nd, but I doubt it.
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i agree… he’ll be gone before we pick in the 2nd…
but if someone rings our phone befoer we pick and offers us thier one and two…
taking Mack with thier one could be good for us…
i miss Robbins… (but i don’t feel him)…
March 9th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
24, yea but Al has an ego that doesnt trade down. Id love to do that tho.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Its been fun. Peace out guys.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
how does trading down impact an ego ???
March 9th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Remind me. Is Robbins on the lamb, in jail, or dead?
March 9th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
#1 Priority – Protect JR.
#2 Priority – Stop the run.
#3 Priority – Skill Positions.
#4 Priority – Depth
I dunno Kell,I think Huff could make those decisions.Seems like those priorities are spot on
March 9th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Troll
Let me ask you, were you, or anyone in your family raped at a Raider game?
March 9th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
yep I really out
March 9th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Remind me. Is Robbins on the lamb, in jail, or dead?
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i think it’s a combination of all three…
thought i read something that he violated probation…
i think there’s a warrant for him…
March 9th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
On September 21, 2007, a warrant was issued for his arrest by Miami-Dade police for a parole violation stemming from his run in with police in 2005. To date, authorities have not been able to locate him for extradition back to Florida[1].
March 9th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Later fellas. 4eva, you and my troll have at it.
March 9th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
how does a 6′5″, 350 pound guy hide from the cops ???
March 9th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
As long as he stays out of trouble it is easy, but once he gets a speeding ticket, or even pulled over for a busted tail light his goose will be in the slammer.
March 9th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
just curious,but why hasn’t anybody talked about Brian Cushings…he’s got some great film and the guy is a beast…any insight?
March 9th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
What it do yo.
March 9th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Pete easy, people for years said trade down and Al never would. For once he mite have to in order to turn the tide.
March 9th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Black dog,..we dont need to draft any honkys,..we want football players, not lawyers.
March 9th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
LT is being traded to the Saints, hitting the wires now.
March 9th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Heck I wants LT to stay in SD,..because we couldnt tackle Sproles,..at least LT was on downside.
March 9th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Brees misses him…
March 9th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
I need to go sit on the toilet for a couple hours,..just ate 200 dollars worth of In and Out burgers,…oh man I need to chit, cya tomorrow during the live blog.
March 9th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Russel stop getting drunk at Chilis and get on a treadmill.
March 9th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Wildcats is on the Vs. channel right now. I swear to god I’d take Goldie Hawn’s character in this movie over Tom Cable. Any day. I’d take her over Al. She just comes in and cleans up this school’s football program. Al Davis has never done that in his life (see Ron Wolf). Al just destroys programs.
March 9th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Hi Raider fans!
March 9th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
They serve beer at Chilis? Hmmm…
March 9th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Goldie’s trying to condition them and the players don’t want to condition. They just want to start running their simple, outdated plays just because it’s fun. They don’t want to prepare. Reminds me of another football team with silver and black uniforms.
March 9th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Goldie Hawn was a hottie. Love those eyes. Sexy.
March 9th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Goldie Hawn is cleaning out the dead wood and building a team. I hope Tom Cable’s watching this.
March 9th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Good NFL game on the network,..1985 Bears.
March 9th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Later fans.
March 9th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Troll, you’re a lonely little fkkr aren’t cha?
March 9th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
S&B …you are a really smart person, right there with myself and Coinman. Al, the skill position players pal, just say no until the Raiders are dominamt on the line. Admitting you have an addition toward mediocre linemen is the first step to recovery.
March 9th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
JM J Bullock Says:
March 8th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
T-O has B-O,..I coinded that phrase, the Dawg Pound stole it.
You dumb piece of crap it was the eagles who made that phrase up and t.o. ripped that sign off after he scored a td get your facts straight MORAN!
March 9th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Wildcats is on the Vs. channel right now. I swear to god I’d take Goldie Hawn’s character in this movie over Tom Cable. Any day. I’d take her over Al. She just comes in and cleans up this school’s football program. Al Davis has never done that in his life (see Ron Wolf). Al just destroys programs.
March 9th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
705…whats your IQ ? 10 !
March 9th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
This team has serious holes that the greatest draft ever wouldn’t fill.
1. Worst WR’s in the league.
2. No safeties.
3. No center.
4. Subpar offensive tackles.
5. No kick returner.
6. D line that cannot stop the run.
7. D line that cannot put pressure on the QB.
8. Linebackers that are always out of position.
Did I miss anything?
March 9th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
I’m serious. Did I ?
March 9th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
yeah…what do you think of Brian Cushings?
I know you IQ is higher than post 705….
March 9th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Don’t know if this has been posted here and I apologize if it has, but it states that AD is considering getting an offensive tackle with the #7 pick which I found to be news worthy. Per The Raider Beat:
RAIDERS END PURSUIT OF BARNES
RaiderBeat.com Staff Report
A last-ditch effort to revive on-again, off-again talks with the Raiders about signing free-agent offensive tackle Khalif Barnes failed Monday.
The Raiders informed Barnes’ agent, Kenny Zuckerman, that they no longer are interested in signing Barnes, according to a team source.
The two sides discussed the parameters for a deal late last week and appeared close to working out the details. Managing general partner Al Davis stepped in and halted the negotiations because he isn’t ready to commit to who he wants protecting quarterback JaMarcus Russell’s blindside.
Davis, according to the team source, wasn’t sold on Barnes and still is considering using Oakland’s first-round draft pick (No. 7) on one of the many offensive tackle prospects available in this year’s NFL Draft.
The Raiders released Kwame Harris in February and have been discussing potential ways to fill the void ever since.
Third-year player Mario Henderson is the projected starter for now. Erik Pears was signed earlier this month and is viewed as a potential starter. The plans could change in an instant if the Raiders pursue a free agent such as Marvel Smith or opt to draft a tackle April 25-26.
Zuckerman could not be reached for comment. A Raiders official said he is not permitted to comment on contract negotiations.
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March 9th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
I agree. No honky is going to fix this mess.
March 9th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
The real MaddenRaider capitalizes the “R”, but it’s all good. He doesn’t own the name. Anyone can use it.
March 9th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Maddenraider Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
I agree. No honky is going to fix this mess.
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okay, that’s enough… i want you to turn off your computer…
i want you to go upstairs and apologize to your old man for being such a fuqq up…
i want you to promise him you’ll do better…
give him a hug…
do it without grabbing his ass…
March 9th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
MR you missed SOLB one shakey CB a unproven QB no true healthy FB right guard is suspect only one real TE a punt blocker would be nice and we need a true gunner on ST wow our two best players on offens are white being Robert Gallery and Zach Miller our D is sorry and all black
March 9th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
I was born in Houston’s 5th ward. Talk about ghetto!
March 9th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
New post biatches
March 9th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Bush and his wall street crooks turned the whole country in the 5th ward, buddy. You’ll start seeing it soon.
March 9th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Jamarcus Russell Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
LT is being traded to the Saints, hitting the wires now.
LIAR!
March 9th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
In front of ya momma’s house Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Bush and his wall street crooks turned the whole country in the 5th ward, buddy. You’ll start seeing it soon.
Look into my sexy eyes and call me buddy.
March 9th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Mollie McGrath is hot, that’s for sure. Goldie Hawn had longevity. Hot well into her 40s. I just wish coach McGrath were real. She’d make a better coach than Cable, any day.
March 9th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
BTW, was I the first one to mention Cable today? I usually am. You guys never talk about him, for some reason. His system. Who he wants to draft, sign, etc. Funny, considering he is the head coach…
March 9th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Doesn’t explain why you called me buddy.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
I am hard core.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
I drive a Caddie.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
People know me.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
# Maddenraider Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Did I miss anything?
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Yeah. Gruden has his dik up your azz. you may want to pull it out sometime.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
I look like Rollo Lawson from sanford and Son.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
I own a gun.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
When I drive down my street I get a standing ovation.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
In my Caddy I only listen to my Ohio Players cd`s.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
I am drinking a cognac, smoking a black n mild.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
All my suits are made of velvet.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
I have a black panther in my back yard, a real one. He eats pit bulls, his name is Don Corneleus.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
I am personal friends with Richard Roundtree.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
# Maddenraider Says:
March 9th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Did I miss anything?
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Yeah. And Lame Kiffin has his schwanz in your mouth. You might want to spit it out.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
When I attend Raider games they put me on the jumbo tron alot.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
In reality I never leave my house.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Goodnight, time for my Hennessy and cocoa.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
I just sit on the internet and post stupid stuff.
March 9th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
I couldn’t get a virtual date with a 65 year old child molester even if I posed as a child
March 9th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Here’s a list of free agents left on the market the Raiders could use:
Jeff Garcia, QB
Bertrand Berry,DE
Marvin Harrison,WR
Chris McAlister,CB
Joey Galloway,WR
Trai Essex,OT
John St. Clair,OT
March 9th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Jerry,Youre Inaction is a BAD THING! Lets go now,suck it up,most are waiting for a FIX, RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 9th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Dirty, 408, and 4eva
You guys made me go way back. Drinking King Cobra (99 + tax), or OE. Green leaf Vega with some doe doe. I LOVE IT. Smoking blunts and drinking 40s.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Garcia would be a problem. Berry, Harrison, McAlister, might be interesting for depth.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Raider’s six draft picks…. 7, 40, 71, 104, 168, 199
March 9th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Raider O, right on baby! 40oz King Cobra a little Mexican Red Hair, or GeorgeTown Brown, and when u wake up…….. left over Pizza. Cheers
March 9th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
And with the 7th pick in the Raiders select: Andre Smith, Tackle, University of Alabama, (or Michael Oher, tackle, Ole Miss)
March 9th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Wake n’ bake on some gran daddy purple. Cheers t.
March 9th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Raider O – Dude, I need some purple out here on the East coast.
Do you know how I could get some by Fed ex?
I’m serious.
March 9th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Even Christ is a dumb ass Davis worshiper. That explains the state of the world.
March 10th, 2009 at 3:06 am
So who is going to be the Boss of NATO, the Canadian defense minister??? Peter McKay, or the Danish Prime Minister, Anders Rasmussen??
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/23025a9e-0d13-11de-a555-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1
March 10th, 2009 at 3:28 am
and all across this world Tibetan people and those who feel them mourn the past half century of Chinese crap perpetrated upon them.
as Tibetans have no oil, no gold and no football/futbol team, most people little notice nor care.
Free Tibet for no other reason than it is right to do so.
March 10th, 2009 at 3:55 am
Good Morning
LMN,I was under the impression that the Chair in Nato was on a rotating basis.I used 2 know these things.Every 2 years or 4 years the Chair goes to the next country in line.To me it dosent matter who it goes 2 this year,as we are ALL 1
March 10th, 2009 at 4:05 am
4eva…
nah thats he EU.. they have a chairman and its on turn-basis…
the NATO secretary general is chosen by the other countries, and its not on a timeshare basis, its when the guy had enough or when the countries had enough of the NATO secretary general…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO#Organizations_and_Agencies
as yo can see Luns had the job for over 13 years… and in the mid 90’s they had ~6 month…
very exciting to me, because i would love to have an election here soon…
March 10th, 2009 at 4:07 am
4eva…
maybe you are thinking of the chairman o the UN!?… i dunno…
gotta go to a meeting, so no lunch today :/ dammit LOL
March 10th, 2009 at 4:10 am
M…
Tibet has a soccer team!?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet_national_football_team
sponsored by Denmark btw and and the sports wear brand Hummel..
see ya all =)
March 10th, 2009 at 4:23 am
Yes I have taken over Tibet too.
March 10th, 2009 at 5:05 am
from post #727
Davis, according to the team source, wasn’t sold on Barnes and still is considering using Oakland’s first-round draft pick (No. 7) on one of the many offensive tackle prospects available in this year’s NFL Draft.
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yeah baby! it’s a great morning in Raider Nation!
March 10th, 2009 at 5:06 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S L M N , 4EVA, HWNDR -U STILL ALIVE. RAIDER ROCKSTAR. LOOK’S LIKE ANOTHER 1000 POST ,ON THE WAY…
March 10th, 2009 at 5:07 am
good morning 4eva, LMN …
Aaron Pelch will join the Raiders coaching staff as assistant special teams coach.
booyah! the greatness of the Raiders is in it’s future
March 10th, 2009 at 5:09 am
good morning Dirt Lot!
not much NFL news yesterday unless your name is WR Matt Jones or LB Geno Hayes …
March 10th, 2009 at 5:12 am
Trent Edwards lobbied for the team to sign Terrell Owens and Wade Phillips said Owens was a pleasure to coach.
does this guy get a bad wrap from the media or is he really the d-bag everybody thinks he is?
March 10th, 2009 at 5:14 am
yep good morning all
and where is Hwnrdr???
March 10th, 2009 at 5:18 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
I’m here guys— 4eva, LMN, Rock Star, Dirt Lot.
Been off since Friday morning staying ho,me with the kids because of the day care being closed.
Anything new these past couple of days besides TO going to Buffalo?
March 10th, 2009 at 5:19 am
HOPE NOT TO UPSET ANYBODY , BUT I DO NOT COME IN HERE FOR THE NEWS, AM HERE FOR THE CONVERSATION AND DIFFERANT VIEW POINT’S. GET MORE UP 2 DATE NEWS FROM U ROCKSTAR. THAN FROM ANYONE RUNNING THIS BLOG….
March 10th, 2009 at 5:25 am
true dat Dirt Lot;very stimulating talk here as always and Rockstar does keep us up 2 date.If we havent said it B4……Thankx Rockstar!!! =)
March 10th, 2009 at 5:25 am
I agree with you Dirt Lot. Sometimes the news is old by the time its posted here (maybe only by a matter of minutes or hours), but nevertheless…the conversation gets kind of strange after 10Am though.
BTW: Anyone notice that this blog has not changed to daylight savings? Or is it my work computer being stupid?
March 10th, 2009 at 5:26 am
DID I FORGET TO MENTION THAT I COME HERE MOSTLY TO SMELL THE TROLL FARTS. MMMMMM GOOD.
March 10th, 2009 at 5:33 am
MY POINT EXACYLY HWNDR..NO TIME CHANGE YET. ANTWAY….I AM STARTING TO LIKE THE TRADE DOWN 4 MORE PK’S THING MORE AND MORE, AM I CRAZY ?
March 10th, 2009 at 5:34 am
Jerry’s been sick soo…he can change the time when he is better
March 10th, 2009 at 5:34 am
DT Shaun Cody was in New Orleans yesterday. No news about him signing a contract. Al should bring him in.
I would also like to know what it would take to land RFA DT Gabe Watson.
The Raiders need help at DT.
Raiders.com roster page still has Kelly listed as a DE and still has William Joseph listed despite the fact he is a FA and remains un-signed.
The Raiders can’t go through a season with only 3 DTs on the roster. Warren and Sands can’t stay healthy.
March 10th, 2009 at 5:36 am
I guess this was posted last night by someone here:
Here’s a list of free agents left on the market the Raiders could use:
Jeff Garcia, QB
Bertrand Berry,DE
Marvin Harrison,WR
Chris McAlister,CB
Joey Galloway,WR
Trai Essex,OT
John St. Clair,OT
Don’t want Garcia, because he would want to start. Marvin Harrison will probably demand too much money. Don’t really know too much about the rest. I heard someone mention that Berry could be interesting. What do you guys think, morning crew?
March 10th, 2009 at 5:39 am
Dirt Lot, no you not crazy for wanting that. i really wish Al will trade out of the top 10 for once, but never had. As for the time change thing, thanks guys, I thought I was seeing things this morning…
March 10th, 2009 at 5:39 am
if we could trade down 2 say maybe #20 and pick up an 3rd rounder,I’d be all 4 that.I just wanna pick B4 the steAlers
March 10th, 2009 at 5:40 am
GUESS I WILL BE GOING NOW. BEEN TROLL’D. SORRY REGULAR’S, GOOD DAY TO ALL. ( EXCEPT TROLL’S )
March 10th, 2009 at 5:45 am
Good day Dirt Lot!!!
March 10th, 2009 at 5:47 am
4evaRaider Says:
March 10th, 2009 at 5:39 am
if we could trade down 2 say maybe #20 and pick up an 3rd rounder,I’d be all 4 that.I just wanna pick B4 the steAlers
I agree 4eva. Funny, I heard that Arizona signed Bryan McFadden yesterday (or Sunday, don’t know) from the Steelers.
March 10th, 2009 at 5:50 am
Dirt Lot dontlet the lil ‘ole troll bother you.
Hwnrdr,if Garcia could be brought in and accept the back-up role,I would love 2 have him here;He’s a REAL competitor and is NOT alocker room cancer.And Bonus… he could help Jmac immensely,imo
March 10th, 2009 at 5:54 am
East coast raider,
I’m in Cali and purple and Cush are available most of the time. Funny thing you said fed ex, me and my boy were talking about it earlier. I’ll be honest with you, most here we have medical cards, so a lot get it from the store. No law breaking or anything. Maybe you should think of coming to heaven or as they like to call it CALIFORNIA.
March 10th, 2009 at 5:55 am
I agree 4eva, but Garcia wants to be a starter. If he changed his mind and came here knowing that he will be the back up for JRuss, then I will be okay with that also. For 39, he is still one helluva competitor that will teach Russell a thing or two. If someone could convince him now that he probably won’t be starting anywhere now that Tampa is also going the youth movement route…
March 10th, 2009 at 6:01 am
good morning Hwnrdr!
4eva & Dirt Lot: thanks for the props
I enjoy the morning football talk with you fellas.
seems all the clowns (wont mention any names) like to sleep in and post later. This blog is awful sometimes. I think thats why Jerry wanted registration
March 10th, 2009 at 6:06 am
Bro, we also have real Mexican food, and it is sooo good. Fish tacos and shrimp buritos are my favorite. Dude, i’m telling you, I live in SD, we go snow boarding on sat at big bear, and sun go surfing or desert sports. Also Mexico is 20 min away,LA is an 2 hours away, and vegas is 4 hours away. I love this place, but don’t get me wrong, this place is expensive and there are 100,000 unemployed in SD county. 3 bedroom houses go for 300 on the avg.
March 10th, 2009 at 6:06 am
DT Shaun Cody was in New Orleans yesterday. No news about him signing a contract. Al should bring him in.
I would also like to know what it would take to land RFA DT Gabe Watson.
The Raiders need help at DT.
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Tommy Kelly & Gerard Warren both converted their roster bonus to a guaranteed payment, which saved the team some money. I don’t see either of them being cut due to this. What about Terdell Sands? He’s overpaid too! He should restructure or be cut. He’s getting starter money and he’s not an every down player.
I wouldn’t mind kicking the tires on Cody or Watson…
March 10th, 2009 at 6:09 am
It’s worth it. I can’t live any where else.
March 10th, 2009 at 6:11 am
I like Watson a little more than Cody.
March 10th, 2009 at 6:12 am
Jerry Porter will catch passes thrown by Vick in the UFL.
Just a prediction.
March 10th, 2009 at 6:12 am
That is why I had mentioned that around 10 AM, this site gets weird and therefore hardly post after that time. Besides, that is when most of the trolls are out…
Sands should restructure because he is NOT an every down player. He is big, but most times big for nothing. I did like his hustle at times last year. he did recover fumbles for us that at times could have gone the other way.
March 10th, 2009 at 6:15 am
Raiders75 (Dez Bryant for 2010) Says:
March 10th, 2009 at 6:12 am
Jerry Porter will catch passes thrown by Vick in the UFL.
Just a prediction.
Wheew!!! You may be right! lol!!!
On Watson: If he is an RFA, you think Al will give him a look? What was Deangelo last year? An RFA, or an UFA?
March 10th, 2009 at 6:17 am
Raider O
I got a divorce about 19 years ago and just wanted a change of scenery,so I moved 2 florida.Florida is a very nice place 2 visit but…
you must know where Marrietta is,just up the 215,thats where I lived last.Hopefully I can move back in a year or so
March 10th, 2009 at 6:17 am
I agree sands is big but he had no strength to push the O line. What a waste of body. 6′6 335 with no strength. How sad is that!!!
March 10th, 2009 at 6:22 am
restricted free agent (RFA) is one with three accrued seasons of service, who has received a “qualifying” offer (a salary level predetermined by the Collective Bargaining Agreement between the league and its players) from his current club. He can negotiate with any club through a certain date. If the restricted free agent accepts an offer sheet from a new club, his old club has “right of first refusal,” a seven-day period in which it may match the offer and retain him, or choose not to match the offer, in which case it may receive one or more draft picks for the upcoming draft from the player’s new club. If an offer sheet is not executed, the player’s rights revert to his old club the day after negotiations must end.
Watson is a RFA and I doubt the Raiders would part with draft picks at the moment. Cable wants to build a team.
March 10th, 2009 at 6:24 am
4eva,
I know it, but never been there. I don’t go out of SD that much unless for work. Bro, you lived here so you know. People are chill, we introduced punk music to the world and sector 9s. Almost every one smokes here. You can go any where in shorts and flip flops.
March 10th, 2009 at 6:27 am
And we all know a bout H county next to the bay area. They have sophia.
March 10th, 2009 at 6:30 am
Thanks for that piece 75. Didn’t think that Al will go after RFA’s this season, mainly due to last season’s disasters.
Raider O… Lived in San Diego for a year. Miss the weather down there. Although it can get cold, it is usually still warm weather compared to the Bay Area, or NorCal. Chula Vista, behind the Big Bear Shopping Center. Not sure if any of that is still there. I remember it being not too far from Black Angus. That was back in ‘89 though.
March 10th, 2009 at 6:30 am
Raider O
Humboltd county was in my spare bedroom 4 12 years =)
March 10th, 2009 at 6:33 am
Hwnrdr,
Ever eat at taco el gordo in national city, right next to chula vista.
March 10th, 2009 at 6:39 am
4eva,
LMAO, I’m having a morning session right now on some GDP. You said you want to come back, when you do, come see your boy. I’m Arab American, so you know what that means ….. Smoking it out of hookas.
March 10th, 2009 at 6:44 am
What was Deangelo last year? An RFA, or an UFA?
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Neither. Hall was traded to Oakland for a 2nd round pick in 2008 & a 5th round pick in 2009.
I forgot about getting a draft pick for RFA’s.
However, Watson was a 4th round draft pick, so thats what we’d give up to acquire him. Not sure what all he has to offer… In April 2008 he fractured his kneecap after falling on a treadmill at a health club – OUCH!
March 10th, 2009 at 6:45 am
funny you should mention hookas Raider O,my daughter bought me one 4 my B/D last year.Man is it nice
March 10th, 2009 at 6:45 am
Raider O, can’t say that I have, although it has been 20 years since I had been down there. I do remember Aldel Bertos (name could be spelled or said wrong, like I said 20 years) in Oceanside. I remember going there for lunch and only spending $3. Couldn’t imagine what it costs now.
March 10th, 2009 at 6:48 am
the laws here are truely draconian,3 years for a 1st offense 4 growing is a real possibility.Thats 1 of the main reasons 4 wanting 2 move back.No one belongs in prison just 4 chillin out,imo
March 10th, 2009 at 6:48 am
Hey Rockstar,
That got to hurt!!! Falling on a treadmill and fracturing his knee? Double OUCH!!!
Anyways, if we do give up our fourth for him, does that mean that we trade down to get more picks? I am not used to this quietness. Is it draft day yet?
March 10th, 2009 at 6:55 am
Rockstar,
I didn’t know Watson was a 4th round pick, I do agree that’s too much for him. ( font need to have another warren.) so maybe Cody, or it’s looking like a draft pick.
4eva,
A few tips:
Instead of water, you can use icecold vodka with fresh lemon, tobacco flavored with lemon or lime mixed with some…( ooohhhh)
Also add ice to the water, crushed is better.
Try these 2, and if you liked them I’ll give you more.
March 10th, 2009 at 6:56 am
Morning, Nation.
1. The AM croud is the bizness
2. The sticky icky from LA to the Bay is stickiest of the icky
3. F**k the trolls
4. SD is a great city, not crazy bout the football team
March 10th, 2009 at 6:57 am
Hwnrdr: I would LOVE to trade down and get Mack or Oher. depends on a few things though:
- will teams want the #7 pick?
- what are they willing to give up in order to trade spots?
- we can’t trade down lower than 20th overall or we risk losing one or both players
- is Davis interested in Crabtree, Raji, Orakpo or Andre Smith? If so, he’s not even thinking about trading down…
March 10th, 2009 at 6:59 am
Dude, and I complain about the laws here. I’m not sure but I think you only pay fines on less than 10 plants, and anything less than an OZ is only an infraction.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:03 am
I agree Rockstar because I don’t think Philly is willing to give up their two late round picks, let alone go down to the 7th. Detroit will surprise me if they trade out of the #1, but would love to see who’s willing to do so. Their #20 pick would be great to get those names that you mentioned, unless Uncle Al believes they are worth the #7 pick.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:04 am
While the Raiders inaction is a good thing, Jerry’s inaction on this blog is a bad thing…
I read somewhere that Burnett would be making his choice between San Diego and Oakland today. Let’s hope we hear some good news on that soon.
So have we all decided on Oher at #7 yet?
March 10th, 2009 at 7:05 am
The Eagles don’t pick until #21 & #28 …
If Crabtree is on the board at #7, we could probably trade down to #21 with them and McNabb would have his #1 WR to pair with DeShaun Jackson.
to trade down 14 spots we’d still get a good player that fills a need and an additional 2nd & 3rd rounder.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:06 am
F the didchargers, to you know how much sh!t I get here for being a raider fan?
Dude, got to tell you. The raider nation is represented well here. We make all the raider games here, even after the 3 game pack. Also no matter what our record is, you see theglags, gear, window stickers, and etc. We have raider clubs and bars.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:09 am
No sorry BBB, I still want Orakpo, a NT in the 3rd or 4th, and a center I’m the 2nd.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:09 am
“Georgia Tech DE Michael Johnson ran an official forty time of 4.59 at the Yellow Jackets’ Pro Day Monday.
The Lions had him as fast as 4.49. Johnson, who looks like an All Pro getting off the bus, has been nicknamed “Tin Man” by some observers because he plays without consistent snap-to-snap effort. Some team will still probably fall in love with his upside. He may have more than any end in this draft.”
This looks like a classic Al pick. But if he’s there in the 2nd, probably worth the gamble. He could start out as the situational pass rusher until he gets more consistent..
March 10th, 2009 at 7:11 am
Hey Raider O,
20 years ago, there was nothing but Raider fans down there…
March 10th, 2009 at 7:11 am
Cool, we dodged the T.O. bullet, and the Khalif Barnes moron. This will keep our options open for the draft…WR or Tackle.
Good moves Al.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:13 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 10th, 2009 at 7:03 am
I agree Rockstar because I don’t think Philly is willing to give up their two late round picks, let alone go down to the 7th. Detroit will surprise me if they trade out of the #1, but would love to see who’s willing to do so. Their #20 pick would be great to get those names that you mentioned, unless Uncle Al believes they are worth the #7 pick.
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I actually think the Lions are going to take Stafford at #1. They only have Culpepper and hes only signed for 1 more year. 1st pick and no QB means you have to take a QB..
March 10th, 2009 at 7:15 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 10th, 2009 at 7:05 am
The Eagles don’t pick until #21 & #28 …
If Crabtree is on the board at #7, we could probably trade down to #21 with them and McNabb would have his #1 WR to pair with DeShaun Jackson.
to trade down 14 spots we’d still get a good player that fills a need and an additional 2nd & 3rd rounder.
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I don’t think Philly would want to move up. They could still get Heyward-Bay, Macklin, or Nicks with the 21 pick and not have to give up a 2nd or 3rd rounder.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:16 am
Dakota Says:
March 10th, 2009 at 7:11 am
Cool, we dodged the T.O. bullet, and the Khalif Barnes moron. This will keep our options open for the draft…WR or Tackle.
Good moves Al.
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Don’t get too excited, Barnes hasn’t signed anywhere yet..
March 10th, 2009 at 7:18 am
Raider O
That would be 10 “FLOWERING” plants.So in reality you could have as many clones as you want,just not more than 10 “FLOWERING”plants =)
March 10th, 2009 at 7:19 am
BBB, and the good chill guys in here,
Here is my logic behind Orakpo in the 7th. He is an all downs DE, meaning he can stay on the field the entire time due to his rushing and setting the edge abillity. We don’t have a single DE on the roster that should play all three downs. Jay can’t rush the passer, so he is out on passing downs. Burgess, other than being a huge problem against the run, he is only a pass rusher, and he may want and will want too much money next year. Scott, a young guy who only played the podiuion for a few years is also a pass rusher. We need a DE that can stay on the field all 3 downs.
Now, we also need a NT, but like stated above you can get a guy like Watson in the 3 or 4th and team him up with Kelly a UT and then decide I’d you need more work on the D line or LBs.
Let me know what you think of my logic, plz be kind.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:22 am
Dude, got to tell you. The raider nation is represented well here. We make all the raider games here, even after the 3 game pack. We come to smell the Chargers farts and they are almost as good as troll farts.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:23 am
The Lions would be smart to swap their #20 pick for our #7 (we also get their 3rd rounder, perhaps) then they could take Aaron Curry/Jason Smith and Matthew Stafford, in that order. That would be an amazing draft for them.
Then we could take Mack with the #20
Robert Ayers (DE) with our 2nd round pick
Lydon Murtha (OT) with our new 3rd round pick
Derrick Williams (WR) with our original 3rd round pick
Terrence Knighton (NT) with our 4th round pick
Reshard Langford (SS) with our 6th round pick
Alex Boone (OT) with our 7th round pick
That would really strengthen our lines, while not destroying our cap room.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:25 am
4eva,
LMAO, bro, that was funny. Leave it to us smokers to know out sh!t. Some of us can’t show you NY on a map, but we can all argue the law when it comes to that issue. I love it.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:25 am
The Oakland Raiders have been hard at work, releasing underperforming players and restructuring overvalued contracts awarded in the past. Quarterback JaMarcus Russell is expected to be the next to rework his original contract. The move would give the Raiders even more flexibility and adjust Russell’s contract to reflect his true value to the organization.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:29 am
O
I agree, I would go to SD/TJ a few times a year and Raider Nation is represented well up and down the state, and the country as well.
It seems we have far less bandwagon-types, and most out-of-towners and out-of-staters are just as loyal as anyone in the Town.
The Central Coast (Santa Maria, in particular) and San Juaquin Valley has a grip of Raider fans as well.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:30 am
Hopefully Farglass is paid $100k per TD in his new deal.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:31 am
If we don’t go after Orakpo at #7, if either Michael Johnson or Aaron Maybin are there for our 2nd round pick, we should take a serious look at either one. One of those has a good chance of becoming the best ends coming out of this draft.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:33 am
BBB,
Why would you think the lions will trade the 20th for our 7th? I think to pay 2 rookies 30mil each in signing bonuses is crazy with the bust factor, but they may want to trade the 1st to pick up more picks to build a team like the falcons and dolphins last year. They can still get sanchez if they trade down if not sold on Stanford.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:33 am
I’ll restructure my contract but the better not discontinue the donut ration.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:33 am
The Lions would be smart to swap their #20 pick for our #7 (we also get their 3rd rounder, perhaps) then they could take Aaron Curry/Jason Smith and Matthew Stafford, in that order. That would be an amazing draft for them.
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The Raiders trading down from #7 to #20 and only getting a 3rd round pick? thats robbery, isn’t it? Especially when the Raiders know that the Lions are using it to draft their franchise QB. They could trade with the Jags or Packers too before the 49ers are on the clock at #10
March 10th, 2009 at 7:33 am
Damn, Mike Peterson just signed with the Falcons.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:34 am
Dakota Says:
March 10th, 2009 at 7:30 am
Hopefully Farglass is paid $100k per TD in his new deal.
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Well hopefully for everyone except himself. He was an 0-fer on all his carries in the red zone he had last year. Most of had at least a dozen of them (just guessing but can’t be far off).
March 10th, 2009 at 7:34 am
I wonder if the situation with Barnes is the first evidence that things haven’t changed between Al and his coaches.
Does anyone have the specifics, or can confirm, I’ve heard Cable wanted Barnes, Al didn’t, therefore the yoyo reporting on the Barnes situation. Can anyone else provide more info
March 10th, 2009 at 7:34 am
I’m glad Al appears to be passing on Barnes. Too much $$$ for a player with dubious character. Get another tackle in the draft. Is Andre Smith simply too big/immobile to play the ZBS?
March 10th, 2009 at 7:35 am
BART Bridge Blues Says:
March 10th, 2009 at 7:23 am
The Lions would be smart to swap their #20 pick for our #7 (we also get their 3rd rounder, perhaps) then they could take Aaron Curry/Jason Smith and Matthew Stafford, in that order. That would be an amazing draft for them.
Then we could take Mack with the #20
Robert Ayers (DE) with our 2nd round pick
Lydon Murtha (OT) with our new 3rd round pick
Derrick Williams (WR) with our original 3rd round pick
Terrence Knighton (NT) with our 4th round pick
Reshard Langford (SS) with our 6th round pick
Alex Boone (OT) with our 7th round pick
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thats a real good lookin draft imo,BBB
March 10th, 2009 at 7:36 am
Nobody wants the first pick this year, Lions are stuck in the mud with that. Sit back and watch them blow it yet again (unless they pick Curry who should be a stud).
March 10th, 2009 at 7:38 am
Grasshopper’s this mornin anyone? Fresh baked!
March 10th, 2009 at 7:41 am
The Raiders trading down from #7 to #20 and only getting a 3rd round pick? thats robbery, isn’t it? Especially when the Raiders know that the Lions are using it to draft their franchise QB. They could trade with the Jags or Packers too before the 49ers are on the clock at #10
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Thats what i was thinking too.. didn’t the jags give up like a 2nd and 3rd or 2 3rds to move from 14 to 7 last year?
March 10th, 2009 at 7:41 am
Santa Maria is a great Raider town!! I went to school in San Luis Obispo, and we would drive down to Santa Maria to watch the game on Sundays, usually at the Red Robin so we could get our grub on. They represent well in those parts.
Raider O,
You are right, my hope of the Lions swapping with us is based more on blind optimism than cold hard facts, guilty as charged.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:42 am
Isn’t maybin less than 250 pounds? If he is then we don’t need another situational guy. We need an all downs DE. I like M Johnson’s potential and upside, but I don’t think he will be there in the 2nd. Also he is too risky for a team like ours ( has so many needs) to invest a 1st in him, he is far from a finished product. This guy should and will go to a team in the mid or late 1st round. He can help them in rushing downs, and be situational till he adds more muscle and learns more.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:43 am
what you talkin ’bout DR??? =)
March 10th, 2009 at 7:43 am
Roch R,
I am no fan of Al Davis, but I am glad that he is not listening to Cable in terms of signing o-linemen. Cable may be a proven o-line coach, but as far as talent evaluation goes he sucks ASSSSSSS. Cable gave you Kwame Harris and then refused to play Henderson once it became clear Henderson was a better player. Tom Cable wanting Barnes is just Kwame Harris part II. Kwame Harris + off the field antics as a matter of fact.
Barnes is meeting with Tampa…let’s hope he signs there. We can get a much better tackle in the draft.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:43 am
Ya, the Lions picked a sh:tty year to go 0-16. One of the weaker QB draft classes in some time.
Stafford should be the pick, and will play well down the line, IMO, but its gonna continue to be rough in the D.
I’m hoping we break that double-digit loss streak this year. Even in a weak division, I doubt playoffs in 09, but I’d like to be competitive and at least beat SD once.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:44 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 10th, 2009 at 7:34 am
I’m glad Al appears to be passing on Barnes. Too much $$$ for a player with dubious character. Get another tackle in the draft. Is Andre Smith simply too big/immobile to play the ZBS?
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I’d still sign Barnes if the money is right. If he doesn’t get any takers and has to settle for a smaller deal, we should jump all over it. He can be our swing tackle if he can’t cut it as a starter. Our OL depth is horrid.. McQuistan looked ok but he tore up his knee and theres no telling how that will work out.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Peterson = undersized LB. We have a deep roster of the same, so no loss. We need a thick-necked, block-shedding, run-stopping LB ala Lance briggs or Ray Lewis. Oh, and two solid DTs.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:46 am
Regarding my trade down scenario with the Lions, I think to many teams are wising up to the fact that due to player salaries’, swapping for high picks is not worth as much as it used to. I use their 3rd rounder, because it is the very first pick of the 3rd round and their 2nd round would be too high, considering that is the #33 overall pick. Also it is a conservative look at what we could get, worst case scenario, if we pulled a trade like that.
It’s never gonna happen, but now is the time to ponder the possibilities.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:46 am
Let’s hope we now make DRAFT choices as if we were the Pittsburgh Steelers. I’m not holding my breath, though.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:46 am
This is BULL $hit!!! You can NOT “replace” the WIZ!!
Though let’s give credit where it is due. Al Davis has made some excellent personnel calls in bringing in O-line talent in the past. Ron Stone was a solid guard, Lincoln Kennedy at right tackle, Frank Middleton replaced in Steve Wisniewski left guard in 2001.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:46 am
Cable gave you Kwame Harris and then refused to play Henderson once it became clear Henderson was a better player. Tom Cable wanting Barnes is just Kwame Harris part II. Kwame Harris + off the field antics as a matter of fact.
Barnes is meeting with Tampa…let’s hope he signs there. We can get a much better tackle in the draft.
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couldn’t agree more. well said Dakota
March 10th, 2009 at 7:50 am
Maybin is light, but he is young, he is not even 21 yet. He will put on some pounds, and probably will be selected before our pick at #40. He is one of those “upside” guys, but he was an All-American, and worth a look.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:51 am
Keep your optimisim, our division can be won easy. KC and Denver are rebuilding and SD got OLD real quick, and the Defense showed how much it was over rated. We need a few additions on Defense and O line, and we can look at WR next year. We can’t fix all the problems in ONE draft.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:53 am
Dakota,
Totally agree about Cable. I like his leadership and attitude, but Cable’s personnel knowledge is questionable at best.
Kwame Harris
Cornell Greene
I still question taking Henderson in the 3rd
McQuistan stuck at back-up left gaurd
Jake Grove sucks, just admit it Cable
March 10th, 2009 at 7:53 am
BSJ,
You see the market today? Not bad eh
March 10th, 2009 at 7:55 am
Maybin is the Calista Flockhart of defensive ends.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:59 am
872
I think we duke it out w/ SD for 1 and Denver/KC for 3 and 4.
I keep reiterating we MUST beat SD to even think about being competitive. SD experience scares me a bit, although our skill players will be putting in work in 09.
If we cant split our contests w/them, I sincerely doubt we make it past early January.
March 10th, 2009 at 8:00 am
=)
March 10th, 2009 at 8:00 am
You never know!
March 10th, 2009 at 8:01 am
You bet Vegas – watching FSLR at present.
March 10th, 2009 at 8:03 am
They talk of maybin playing in a 3-4 scheme as OLB. Now, playoffs! Playoffs!!! Yes, you only need to win your division. No way we go deep in the playoffs, but we can get there with time. We have young talent in the offense ( JR, Dmc, Miller, Bush, and our decent Young WRs). Now if we can help them by blocking for them, and having a D that will get our O on the field a lot more ( you don’t learn from being on the bench), we can do good things this year. That is why we need to fix our D.
March 10th, 2009 at 8:03 am
BSJ,
Your in a good position if our good buddy moves forward with the cap and trade business.
March 10th, 2009 at 8:06 am
Free agent LB’s : who’s it gonna be?
Angelo Crowell
Willie McGinest
Kevin Burnett
Zach Thomas
Jamie Winborn
Nate Webster
Paris Lenon
Ryan Nece
Morlon Greenwood
Donnie Edwards
Derek Smith
Napoleon Harris
Eric Barton
Derrick Brooks
Cato June
Marcus Washington
March 10th, 2009 at 8:08 am
Maybin is bigger and more athletic than Chris Clemons, who played well here. Not trying to push the envelope of Maybin too much, but if he is there at #40, and we don’t go Raji or Orakpo at #7, he might be a steal in the 2nd round. He will put on weight, again he is only 20 years old, turns 21 in April.
March 10th, 2009 at 8:09 am
If we cant split our contests w/them, I sincerely doubt we make it past early January. The new year will be just as depressing as the last. I’ll probably sleep with a couple of trolls, let them fart and pull the covers over my head and put an end to my miserable life.
March 10th, 2009 at 8:12 am
We should have NEVER let Eric Barton leave.
March 10th, 2009 at 8:15 am
vegas raider Says:
March 10th, 2009 at 8:03 am
BSJ,
Your in a good position if our good buddy moves forward with the cap and trade business.
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True if I were holding, but I will be out of FSLR by early afternoon. I find it easier to bet on the next 10 minutes than the next 10 weeks…
March 10th, 2009 at 8:17 am
We should have NEVER let Eric Burdon leave.
March 10th, 2009 at 8:21 am
Napoleon Harris would be a capable back-up MLB, but I think we need a young guy to learn the posisition so we can move KM to SOLB if he can not hack it this year as out MLB.
March 10th, 2009 at 8:22 am
new post up
March 10th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Sorry, I didn’t mean to go balistic. It’s just that every team in the league has players far superior to ours and I am so tired of being a loser that my emotions got the better of me.
March 15th, 2009 at 9:15 am
who cares whoes faster if they cant catch the ball?
April 26th, 2009 at 2:01 am
Kerry D…
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