Crabtree is this year’s McFadden
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, March 13th, 2009 at 11:26 am in Oakland Raiders.
Last year the most heated debate among readers of this forum was about Darren McFadden.
To draft, or not to draft?
Most people seemed to believe Al Davis simply couldn’t pass up the chance at such an explosive play-maker, and that line of thinking turned out to be correct.
Those who wanted the Raiders to look elsewhere cited the presence of Justin Fargas, Michael Bush and even Dominic Rhodes, who broke 100 yards rushing in the Raiders last two games of the season, and saw McFadden as a skinny-legged gamble with a questionable background.
Some joker even thought the Raiders would opt for Ohio State edge rusher Vernon Gholston because he was precisely the sort of workout warrior who looked great getting off the bus and would make quarterbacks go down, and go down hard.
(For what it’s worth, I was later told Davis liked Gholston a lot _ just not enough to pass up McFadden. Given McFadden’s promise, even with his injuries, and Gholston’s first year, it looks like a good decision so far).
Lane Kiffin later told everyone it was McFadden all along, although it’s hard to know what to make of that given Davis’ on-the-record statements regarding the truthfulness of his former coach.
Judging from some of the pre-draft debate already heating up, this year’s biggest debate will be whether or not to draft Texas Tech wide receiver Michael Crabtree.
Crabtree supporters believe he would be the ideal playmate for JaMarcus Russell and an instant contributor to a receiving corps that includes Johnnie Lee Higgins, Chaz Schilens and a hoped-for rejuvenation of javon Walker.
Detractors note he’s not as tall as advertised, is recovering from a stress fracture in his foot and is not as fast as Missouri’s Jeremy Maclin.
I checked out 20 mock drafts and 16 of the had the Raiders taking a receiver at No. 7. Eleven of them bought into the argument that Davis will go with speed and take Maclin, even if Crabtree is available. Five thought the call would be Crabtree.
Where were also two votes for Boston College nose tackle B.J. Raji and one each for Mississippi tackle Michael Oher and USC lineacker Rey Maualuga.
How some mock drafts see the Raiders using the No. 7 pick:
Todd McShay, ESPN: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Mel Kiper Jr., ESPN: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Jamie Dukes, NFL Network: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Charles Davis, NFL Network: WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech
Clark Judge, CBSsports.com: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Pete Prisco, CBSsports.com: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Rob Rang, NFLdraftscout.com: OT Michael Oher, Mississippi
Chad Reuter, NFLdraftscout.com: WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech
NFLdraftdog.com: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Pat Kirwan, NFL Network: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Russ Lande, The Sporting News: WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech
Don Banks, CNN-SI: DT B.J. Raji, Boston College
Jim Trotter, CNN-SI: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Wes Bunting, National Football Post: WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech
Sam Farmer, Los Angeles Times: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
KFFL: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
NFLdrafttscource.com: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Walterfootball.com: DT B.J. Raji, Boston College
Steve Silverman, NBCsports.com: LB Ray Maualuga, USC
Chris Steuber, Scout.com: WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech
Note: Missed McFadden’s brief talk with local reporters Thursday night when he pronounced himself fit and ready to go because of a prior obligation (I’m helping coach my son’s Little League team and it was the season opener). Will be out of touch much of the weekend but will try and post something if news breaks and time permits.
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March 13th, 2009 at 11:29 am
DON’T RENEW HIS LEASE IN 2011! IF OAKLAND’S SO AWFUL, FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE TO PLAY YOUR WHEN YOU’RE A LAMEDUCK!!!!
March 13th, 2009 at 11:30 am
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March 13th, 2009 at 11:30 am
For the love of God, TRADE DOWN
Get that receiver from N Carolina….he’s the stud.
March 13th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Man I forgot Swvryn Mervyn Fernandez!!
March 13th, 2009 at 11:34 am
1 out of 20 got it right.
Rob Rang, NFLdraftscout.com: OT Michael Oher, Mississippi
March 13th, 2009 at 11:35 am
4evaRaider Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 11:32 am
CAL fan,altho my little cousin(6-5,295lbs) played 4 da Huskies.I like the Pac-10 and trhe Big Ten.Yep all my years in Cali made me a Cal fan
March 13th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Craptree or Maclin wont be the pick.
March 13th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Maclin has to be the pick, watch film of Crabtree he gets very little to no seperation against slow college corners. He wont be able to use his leaping ability on NFL corners like he does in college. Maclin gets great separation from corners and that is key for a NFL receiver. At 6′1-ish Crabtree simply will not out jump very athletic NFL corners. This is just from what I have seen on tape of him.
March 13th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Great how can we sleep now? Jerry we need you…
Note: Missed McFadden’s brief talk with local reporters Thursday night when he pronounced himself fit and ready to go because of a prior obligation (I’m helping coach my son’s Little League team and it was the season opener). Will be out of touch much of the weekend but will try and post something if news breaks and time permits.
March 13th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Mervyn sucked
March 13th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Montoya
March 13th, 2009 at 11:39 am
I personally would love to see Raji as the pick but I don’t see him falling to 7, we would have to trade up and I am totally against a trade up because of the cost. We either go Tackle or defensive line w/ the 7 pick, I like Monroe, J. Smith and Oher (Andre Smith really has been disappointing with his dedication to his craft) for tackle although Oher is likely the only one that will fall to us. On the defensive line Raji and Orakpo (although he flashes and disappears a lot on tape, I wouldn’t feel as comfortable with him as much as Raji) look solid the rest I haven’t had the chance to look at well enough to speculate
March 13th, 2009 at 11:39 am
I am a fan of Silverman. Take the LB and stop the run! I would also be in favor of trading down with Philly, and taking Mack, and a LB. We can get a receiver in the second round.
March 13th, 2009 at 11:40 am
repost -
S&B: I see where you’re coming from. I really do
I don’t mind going back & forth about a topic. you have good reasons for wanting defensive help. As I mentioned, the defense (under Ryan) has been awful.
I just feel like this team will only take us as far as Jamarcus Russell leads. I want him to have all the peices around him to help him make the jump to elite QB status. I don’t think he can do it with Henderson, Green, Walker & Higgins as a supporting cast. I could be wrong (it’s happened before!), but I just don’t see it
March 13th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Maclin wont be picked guys. Craptree cant jump. He hardly outjumped people in college. Its obvious who actually watches football and who doesnt
March 13th, 2009 at 11:41 am
I will be happy with any pick but Crab.
March 13th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Rod Martin
March 13th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Henderson is your LT. Stop the disrespect now
March 13th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Draft Mack if you want a return 2 greatness.
When was the last time we were Super Bowl contenders you ask??? When we had a domoinating Center
It’s plain as 6 losing seasons 2 see
March 13th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Personally, I wouldn’t draft a WR in the top 10 unless they had the can’t miss measurables of a Calvin Johnson and a good attitude. At least the receiver should be in the 6′3 or higher for a top 10 pick.
Tall receivers that can run are truly a premium. Guys like Crabtree, when its all said and done, are a dime a dozen.
If he didn’t play in an offense that threw the ball most of the time he wouldn’t have racked up all those catches. Same for Maclin.
If Heyward-Bey played at a Texas Tech, Oklahoma or Mizzourah then he would have put up crazy numbers.
Crabtree and Maclin might turn out to be great receivers. But how much better are they over the guys projected at the end of the 1st and into the 2nd.
I think Robiskie is every bit the talent as Crabtree or Maclin. Except he, like Heyward-Bey, played in a northern climate and for offenses that were more run oriented.
Walterfootball has it right. Draft Raji!
March 13th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Where’s Dakota and his boy Andre Smith. Good eye Dakota. That guy is who we said he is. A loser.
March 13th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Rod Martin born in LA and said the Raiders dont belong there. Lester Hayes said same thing. Try again
March 13th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Didn’t say the tackles for LT, do you forget there is also a RT spot that was manned by Cornell Green who had the 2nd most penalties in the league and couldn’t block an old woman with Cerebral Palsy?
March 13th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Did Corkran get to see DMAC talk?
The Bay Area News Group missed a chance to question a Raiders star during a very slow news period…tsk, tsk.
And why were the Raiders paying tribute to Harvey Milk?
March 13th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Let’s take a small peek into recent history, shall we? Since the return to Oakland, the Raiders have compiled a 92-139 record. Take out the four years Jon Gruden was leading the way, and they are a dismal 54-113 since returning to their roots, not to mention being 24-72 over the last six seasons!!!
The TRUTH hurts!!
March 13th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Raji? Lolololol. Wont happen
March 13th, 2009 at 11:47 am
RaiderRockstar,
I agree the offense needs as much help as the defense. And you have a point that Marshall should be an upgrade over Ryan.
My POV is based on the idea that one really good addition on this defense can get it to average. Therefore, I believe a 1st round pick on defense (Raji, Jackson, Mauluaga or Orakpo) and other talents can really elevate the play of this defense. Especially in run d.
But yes, the offense needs help to. The most important thing is that the coaches get better and they pick a player at 7 that can contribute as a starter.
A team with this many holes has to get that pick right
March 13th, 2009 at 11:47 am
1. Charles Davis, NFL Network: WR Michael Crabtree
2. Rob Rang, NFLdraftscout.com: OT Michael Oher
3. Chad Reuter, NFLdraftscout.com: WR Michael Crabtree
4. Russ Lande, The Sporting News: WR Michael Crabtree
5. Wes Bunting, National Football Post: WR Michael Crabtree
6. Chris Steuber, Scout.com: WR Michael Crabtree
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these dudes got it right !!! (never heard of them. haha)
March 13th, 2009 at 11:49 am
The dominant center was only part of the reason for the success, you forget our entire line those years were very dominant and the strength of our team, I think thats the missing ingredient. Gallery has locked up the LG spot and Carlisle is average at RG but our tackles and centers have been horrendous. Gallery will make the pro bowl next year with an improved C and LT to free him up to guard just his man and not have to help out.
March 13th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Lets take a look at reality, when the Oakland guys started leaving in 86 things went downhill
March 13th, 2009 at 11:51 am
4evaRaider Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Draft Mack if you want a return 2 greatness.
When was the last time we were Super Bowl contenders you ask??? When we had a domoinating Center
It’s plain as 6 losing seasons 2 see
WORD!!
How’d the interview go?
March 13th, 2009 at 11:51 am
It’s not the sexy pick, but I truly believe you build a team around your QB and then your O and D line.
We have the QB, I think we should put some money on talented young linemen. Sure we got a bit stung by Gallery, but at least he turned into a solid guard. That’s one spot out of 5 on the o-line.
March 13th, 2009 at 11:51 am
God, I would love to see them trade down. Maybe pick up Mack in the process. I just don’t see them doing that. It’s too logical.
March 13th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Raiders lost identity in LA cuz its not a Raider town. Its a glam city
March 13th, 2009 at 11:53 am
In the 13 years spent in Los Angeles, they had 10 winning seasons and went to the playoffs seven of those seasons.
March 13th, 2009 at 11:53 am
S&B I have to agree w/ you about the defense, 1 dominant DT puts us in a better position all around on defense and improves us 3-4 wins. A solid DT eats up blockers allowing Kelly/Warren to rush the passer and also frees up Burgess/Scott for single match ups. They also keep OL off of our very speedy instinctive LB’s. Morrison and Howard are very fast but get eaten up in the wash if an OL gets them. If you keep them clean you leave them free to destroy offenses and make plays. Improved pass rush and run defense instantly improves DB’s because they don’t have to worry about covering the run as much.
March 13th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Ive been sayin it for the past three months, no aaron curry, trade down, pick up a ‘backer and receiver, there are plently of reciever options late first/ early second…Robiskie, Heywerd-Bey, Hakeem Nicks, Kenny Britt…
March 13th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Next to the king buttholeprick I am the most knowledgeable poster and it does you no good to argue with me.
March 13th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Al is reaching at 7 or trading down. OT,DT or WR wont be the pick
March 13th, 2009 at 11:55 am
DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Didn’t say the tackles for LT, do you forget there is also a RT spot that was manned by Cornell Green who had the 2nd most penalties in the league and couldn’t block an old woman with Cerebral Palsy?
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Yeah Green was badly penalized, but he was SOLID in the Tampa game. Being a vet he probably knew he was playing for his job.
I’m glad he still appears on the roster. He’ll be a predictable, reliable backup who knows the system, HOPEFULLY.
March 13th, 2009 at 11:56 am
I think Evander ‘ziggy’ Hood is better than raji and should be a great DT we can swoop up in the second or third round
March 13th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Dirty Raccoon Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 11:53 am
In the 13 years spent in Los Angeles, they had 10 winning seasons and went to the playoffs seven of those seasons.
LA needs a team and won’t care of it’s the lousy faders again. Let the old man let go of a great big one and blow the team back to LA.
March 13th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Trading down sound easy enough but it really isn’t. You have to have another team willing to trade up into your spot and give you value for that spot.
Claiming to be the most knowledgeable poster does not make it so. Although the team did start declining steadily but its hard to tell if its because of the reason you gave or because of Art Shell being head coach.
March 13th, 2009 at 11:57 am
S&B: I got respect for your POV.
Raji would be an upgrade over Warren, Sands or Joseph.
Orakpo or Jackson would be an upgrade over Burgess, Richardson or Scott.
Mauluaga would be an upgrade over Thomas, Alston or Williams.
I’m still sticking with my opinion in post #14
March 13th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Lets make a list of how to run a team into the ground.
Bad coaching? Check.
Bad drafts? Check.
Bad handling of all personnel (coaches/players/front office)? Check.
Very Bad free agent pickups? Check.
Fostering a “I don’t care” attitude? Check.
March 13th, 2009 at 11:59 am
DR,I went an filled out the app. expecting 2 talk 2 someone,but being friday only desk people were there…
I’m close 2 getting my contractors licence anyway,I was just hoping 2 get as much cash 2 go 2 the game against KC in Oaktown.Oh well if not this year next 4sure.Thankx 4 askin tho!!!
March 13th, 2009 at 11:59 am
#7 pick is allot more desirable than #1 these days.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Trading down sound easy enough but it really isn’t. You have to have another team willing to trade up into your spot and give you value for that spot.
Claiming to be the most knowledgeable poster does not make it so. Although the team did start declining steadily but its hard to tell if its because of the reason you gave or because of Art Shell being head coach.
All you have to do is listen to me and the buttholeprick. We know what it’s all about. We don’t need to listen to you white ass honkies.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
That’s why I said you draft a LT or DT/DE at 7 because Green is a back up not a starter. The Raiders have Henderson and if it was only 1 game I would say it could have been luck but the kid had his side on lockdown for 3 games against very good DE’s. RT is a major weakness, the best thing we can do for Russell to improve is improve the line. Look at Brady and Manning they have all day to throw, no coincidence they are elite because of it. Proven fact when they played terrible their line was the cause and they had no time to throw. No QB is good enough to carry a team with no line.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
8 winning seasons not 10! Dont try and skew the numbers you liar! 4 of those were the first four years with the nucleus from the 80 team. Try again
March 13th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
# S&B (BJ Raji / Tyson Jackson @ 7 because run d is 31st) Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 11:47 am
RaiderRockstar,
I agree the offense needs as much help as the defense. And you have a point that Marshall should be an upgrade over Ryan.
My POV is based on the idea that one really good addition on this defense can get it to average. Therefore, I believe a 1st round pick on defense (Raji, Jackson, Mauluaga or Orakpo) and other talents can really elevate the play of this defense. Especially in run d.
But yes, the offense needs help to. The most important thing is that the coaches get better and they pick a player at 7 that can contribute as a starter.
A team with this many holes has to get that pick right
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What you have seen over the last few years is a Raider Offense that is so inept it is comical, and a defense that even if it’s playing well, will eventually collapse due to being put out there with no hope.
Look at the recent game against the Patriots. Justin Miller unwisely takes the opening kickoff 6 yards deep and gets only to the 7. We go three and out, give them the ball in our territory and they score. We get the ball back, go three and out again, the third down being a play where their defensive end comes around our RT strips Jam, and even tho we keep the ball, Lechler shanks the punt, and again, they have the ball on our 30. They score again. Now, while the defense should be making a stand, the point is you cannot keep giving the highest scoring offense in the league the ball in your back yard over and over again and expect any type of good result.
In the very last game against Tampon Bay, once the offense started showing some signs of life, the defense raised it’s game up. We have some playmakers on offense. We need some beef on the line to help those playmakers make some actual plays.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Doesn’t Raji play Kelly’s possition?
I would rather see the other DT from BC picked in the second or third round.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
4evaRaider Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 11:59 am
DR,I went an filled out the app. expecting 2 talk 2 someone,but being friday only desk people were there…
I’m close 2 getting my contractors licence anyway,I was just hoping 2 get as much cash 2 go 2 the game against KC in Oaktown.Oh well if not this year next 4sure.Thankx 4 askin tho!!!
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Right on,
March 13th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Making racist remarks towards white people or anyone else is pretty ignorant and shows your complete lack of intelligence, including someone that isn’t white in you insult is even more ignorant especially when my last name is in my name and is clearly Hispanic.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Dont worry YOUR chargers are returning home to LA real soon
March 13th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
I really don’t think we’re going OT with our first pick. There are still a few pretty good options out there in free agency, and I think the main reason no one but Pears has been signed yet is that we are now in a buyer’s market. Things have slowed way down now that the big names have their contracts, and the game of “chicken” has begun between agents and owners. Of the tackles we’ve been linked to, only Willis has signed elsewhere, and he re-upped with the Seahawks. Duke Preston is still out there too, unless I’ve missed something.
I’m really not as concerned (yet) with the defense as some others. It is entirely possible that Marshall (who has years of success with the 4-3) has seen major problems with Ryan’s implementation of the talent we have and feels like he can get a lot more out of the group than Ryan did. Doesn’t mean we won’t address a few things there, but I don’t think we know enough about his ideas to say that this or that guy needs to go, or we need to draft player X or player Y. Someone mentioned earlier how terrible our pass rush was last year, but in sacks per pass attempt (which is a more accurate measurement) we were actually pretty good.
The plan is a little clearer for the offense; Hackett was hired to work with JR (a hire that is not to be underestimated), and Tollner was hired specifically to bring more production to the passing game with a specific style of attack. The message here is, I believe, that we’re paying a big, strong-armed QB a lot of money and he is our franchise. We are going to utilize his talents a lot more than we have in the past, because that’s why we brought him in here in the first place.
We have a darn good TE, and it would be safe to say that we are set at RB. It appears as if we are looking for starting offensive tackles through free agency.
Unless a person is looking through the WR position with rose-colored glasses, it is apparent how thin we are there relative to what we know about the approach to offense going forward. Higgins is 5-10/185 and returns punts. Red flag. Walker is damaged goods, physically for sure and quite possibly mentally as well. Red flag. Drew Carter doesn’t have one terrible knee, he has two of them. Red flag. Arman Shields spent the entire year on injured reserve, had a major knee injury in college, and has not caught a single regular-season pass in the NFL. Red flag. Todd Watkins???
Schilens finished the year nicely, and JLH is certainly a threat, but beyond that we have, essentially, nothing that can be counted on. I really don’t think that adds up, considering what it appears we’re looking to do offensively.
As far as the “expert” picks, I don’t put a whole lot of stock in what they say, altough it’s clear that the majority also think that we need front-line help at WR.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
8 winning seasons not 10! Dont try and skew the numbers you liar! 4 of those were the first four years with the nucleus from the 80 team. Try again you white ass honky.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Whats the problem with taking Crabtree? The guy reminds me of Fitzgerald. He runs a slower 40 but is still a great reciever.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Munoz its a troll. He has no guts to show under real name
March 13th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Ryan no Raji does not play the same position, he is actually a 2 gap DT and a run stuffer that Sands was supposed to be. He is actually very versatile at eating blocks which is why he also gives the defense the flexibility to play a 3-4 as well because he can play the nose as well
March 13th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Cornbread Green’s Raider bio notes that in the fall of 1999 he was stacking papers for the St. Petersburg Times. Out of football…unbelievable. Screw WR in the first, get a tackle Al.
Which brings up another question about old ass linemen. If 300+ lb. DTs rotate in and out to stay fresh, why don’t Olinemen? Has it ever happened? We could have platooned Harris and Henderson depending on the play call, as Harris’ strength (or least weakness) was in run blocking.
If we brought in Pace cheaply, we could rotate in Pears, Green, Henderson and Pace and OWN the fourth quarter with fresh legs. Sounds insane, I know. But has it ever been done?
March 13th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
4evaRaider Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Draft Mack if you want a return 2 greatness.
When was the last time we were Super Bowl contenders you ask??? When we had a domoinating Center
It’s plain as 6 losing seasons 2 see
March 13th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Crabtree doesn’t remind me of Fitzgerald. However, if he is anything like Andre Johnson, I would be happy to see him as a Raider.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Brien you are really that dumb I am posting under my real name. Doubt your mom named you Brien The General. My first name initial: D
Last name: Munoz
football number in high school and college: 26
Again showing your ignorance and complete lack of knowledge.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Happy FRY-DAY BRIEN =)
March 13th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Fitzgerald is not slow, he ran a 4.2 40 or faster if I am not mistaken and is also 2 or 3 inches taller than Crabtree. Bad example
March 13th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
How the hell does Craptree remind you of Fitz? My god people dont watch college football at all!
March 13th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Then again, didn’t the Steelers win the SB with a terrible O-Line?
Yep, Ben was sacked 46 times last year, 2nd only to Matt Cassell.
The year before that I believe he went down 50 times.
That kinda blows a hole in my argument at 33, above.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Munoz its a troll. He has no guts to show under real name y su madre es una puta feja.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
good luck DMunoz26,you gonna need it fencing with Brien
March 13th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
The fewest sacks were on K Collins with 8 sacks all year and Cutler with 13.
Personally, I’d like to see Cutler on the ground a lot more than that.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Raji is NOT the pick for Oakland.
They’re happy with the penetrators they’ve got on the D line.
Its the offense that needs to produce points and hence wins.
Its a pass defense plain and not so simple.
Raji’s not the call.
I’d like a trade down from 7 as wellTaking Phillies picks would work for me. Take Alex Mack and Kenny Britt.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Crabtree = Anquan Boldin. Crabtree is slighly taller, weighs the same, has longer arms, and is slightly faster.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
oops, Cutler went down only 11 times in 08.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Ryan no Raji does not play the same position, he is actually a 2 gap DT and a run stuffer that Sands was supposed to be. He is actually very versatile at eating blocks which is why he also gives the defense the flexibility to play a 3-4 as well because he can play the nose as well
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Can eat all the blocks he wants, but if Morrison is back there taking the same bad angles and over pursuing…
March 13th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
4evaRaider Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
good luck DMunoz26,you gonna need it fencing with Brien
That’s why I am the king! BTW did I ever tell you that black is beautiful?
March 13th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Besides, I would be suprised if Raji got past Seattle at 4. They always draft OL and DL with there first pick.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
=)
March 13th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
bdatlanta Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
oops, Cutler went down only 11 times in 08.
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All the more amazing considering they lost like 19 running backs last year and had no discernable defense…
March 13th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
4eva, Munoz just showed what he is worth. Nada
March 13th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Brien if you were literate you would have read that I did not make the fitzgerald statement with any certainty and I was wrong, it happens to everyone. I was actually thinking Donte Stallworth.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Man I wish we could ALL sit down and drown ourselves in beer and Raiders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 13th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Ryan Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Besides, I would be suprised if Raji got past Seattle at 4. They always draft OL and DL with there first pick.
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Could be the anchor of KC’s new 3-4 at the #3 pick as well…
That would give them 2 high picks on the D line if Dorsey can start to produce…
March 13th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
J Russel is the franchise.. so draft a reciver before he becomes alex smith..
March 13th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Craptree does not remind me of Fitzgerald. When I watch his clips I see Michael Westbrook. Get my point?
Draft a tackle Al.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Raji a 2 gapper? More lack of football knowledge by Munoz
March 13th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
More I think about it, KC makes sense for Raji. He wears down later in games and a rotation with Dorsey could work. Not sure about Dorsey and the scheme though..haven’t done the homework
March 13th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
this is a weak year for taking linemen early.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Brien you just proved all you are worth on this site is a constant barrage of immature and racist comments. Last time I checked racist comments never made anyone look intelligent, whether they were black, white, brown, yellow, blue or green. It’s ignorant people like yourself that keep this country seperated.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Brien the General Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Raji a 2 gapper? More lack of football knowledge by Munoz
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Actually…no, Munoz is correct…he apparently has NFL Network who featured the “2 gap” Raji yesterday…
March 13th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Brien if you were literate you would have read that I did not make the fitzgerald statement with any certainty and I was wrong, it happens to everyone. I was actually thinking Donte Stallworth.
Thats what you get for doing your own thinking tacohead.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
94. Hells to the yeah!
Down with illogic and stupidity!~
March 13th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
KC drafted Dorsey last year. They won’t draft Raji unless they stay with the 4-3. Aaron Curry will be the pick no matter what the scheme …
If the Lions grab Curry (idiots), KC will take Orakpo
March 13th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Lol confuse Stallworth with Fitz? Ok now you are scrambling
March 13th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
We need a O-line we can be proud of!
Like Wiz, OO, Lawrence, Mosebar, Gallery, Dalby, Upshaw, Shell,ect…..
March 13th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Brien the General Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
4evaRaider Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
good luck DMunoz26,you gonna need it fencing with Brien
That’s why I am the king! BTW did I ever tell you that black is beautiful?
Almost as beautifull as purple =)
March 13th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Dear gawd, could it be were taking Andre and slapping him right side?
I’d be down with that IF we placed Duke Robinson next to him at guard.
Holy schnikeys, they’d move the pile…
March 13th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
gallery?
March 13th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Come on guys. Crabtree dominated in college. Teams tried to stop him.They could not. You have to look a little past the straight away speed. He has excellent hands, very good quicks which is just as important as straight line speed. He reads the defense and finds the wholes in the zones. Look at the texas game…
He makes plays when it counts. He is the consensus #1 all around player in the draft.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
andre smiths tits are too big for shoulder pads.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Illiterate? Scroll up read the posts again and you may have the brain power to notice the troll. Racist? Im not in a position of oppressor so try again
March 13th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
#105 yup.. Crabtree is the best and most proven, productive player in the draft.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
all the linemen have weaknesses in their games.
Crabtree just has a broken foot.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Brien way to show your ignorance
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL&line=138220
here is an article on Raji playing the 2 gap
March 13th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
KC drafted Dorsey last year. They won’t draft Raji unless they stay with the 4-3. Aaron Curry will be the pick no matter what the scheme …
If the Lions grab Curry (idiots), KC will take Orakpo
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Could be…I really don’t know enough to say with certainty, but…
Though he played a 4-3 in college, he’ll be very attractive to teams (like KC) looking to switch to a 3-4 this year…
At 6-1, he a few inches shorter than they’d like, but at 330-355 hes got the bulk and quickness to get it done.
Missed all of 2007 with academic issues, but came back strong and looks like a solid top 20 pick. With his solid pro day, some have him inthe top 10…
March 13th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Florio said on March 9th that the reason (well, one of them, anyway) that the Raiders didn’t get involved with TO and the fact that we haven’t gone after any WRs in free agency is that there are rumblings inside Raider HQ that Crabtree will be the pick if he’s there at 7.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Nnamdi211 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
94. Hells to the yeah!
Down with illogic and stupidity!~
Don’t try getting in a chess match with the general either. I’ll punk you out like I do koolkell and you’ll be running out of here with your tails between your legs too. The GENERAL has spoken.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
No Raji is not a 2 gap guy. Raji is just the same player Dewayne Robertson is. One gap guy confused. Damn the nfl network. They are wrong alot
March 13th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Als’ sagging lower jaw Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
#105 yup.. Crabtree is the best and most proven, productive player in the draft.
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In a spread offense…
March 13th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
No one claims to be the victim of trolls more than Brien…
March 13th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
This thing about Crabtree,some say he is all this and some say he is all that.He is 6′1″ and runs a 4.5???
We got speed demons and we got Chaz who is 6′4″ and runs a 4.3
The ONLY way I would draft a 6′1″ WR is if he was Cliff Branch,and ALL WORLD CLIFFY was 5′11″
March 13th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
edward teach Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Florio said on March 9th that the reason (well, one of them, anyway) that the Raiders didn’t get involved with TO and the fact that we haven’t gone after any WRs in free agency is that there are rumblings inside Raider HQ that Crabtree will be the pick if he’s there at 7.
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They took Russell and to supply him with weapons would make sense, but they’re moving forward with Cable and the running game so they may shore the glaring need at the tackle spots and center instead…
I may lean more toward Crab if Javon hadn’t restructured, had run sub 4.4 and demonstrated a pro level route tree…
March 13th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
118 Kudos…
March 13th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
122. Yaaawn
March 13th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
still.. he has better hands than any WR availible, free agent or in the draft. + he can read a D. he is plenty fast…and he can run all the routs.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Fact is Raji can play both the 1 and 2 gap, which is why I said he is a solid pick because he gives a defense flexibility of a 3-4 or 4-3. posting links just shows you aren’t making things up and can actually back up what you say.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Chiefs cornerback David Macklin has been arrested on a drunken driving charge.
HAHA!
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Wonder how many games Tommy Kelly will get suspended…
March 13th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
211, if you scroll up any guy with any brain can see it!
March 13th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Peace!~
March 13th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
I need to see film of Maclin and Crabtree.
What’s nice about Fitz is that if you get it in his general vicinity, he probably pulls it in. That’s hands, jump ability, and a nose for the ball.
Me likes.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
THING IS 4EVA, HOW DO U KNOW THEY WILL BE ALL WORLD UNTIL TEN TRS DOWN THE ROAD ? THAT’S THE GAMBLE ..
March 13th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
taking a WR at 7 is a wasted pick, we can get a solid WR in round 2 for a lot cheaper. Both offensive and defensive lines are far more important for our team right now. Russell can’t complete a pass if he is on his backside because protection broke down, also very hard to find a receiver running for your life.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
the funny thing about the combine and the draft is that half of the guys getting all the news are guys that didn’t do anything in college or atleast not on a consistent basis. I like a guy who has shown to be a good or great player for 2 yrs or more. 1 good year and a super combine does not make a football player.
Watch film and see what these guys do with pads on during their entire carrer. I wouldn’t mind taking Andre Smith if his head is evaluated and the Raiders think he is worth it. He has proven he is a good linemen just like crabtree has proved he is good. I watched north carolina play several times and the two receivers they have are good at times but most of the time I didn’t see anything from them. Why pic these guys unless it is a value pick like 3 round or so.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Al wont select a 6ft1 under tackle. Never will happen
March 13th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Orlando Pace is a better fit than any OT we could get.
Raji is weak…
Take Crabtree.. F the 40 time.
Jerry Rice, Tim Brown..its about the routs and the hands.
you don’t get to run a 40 in football.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
There is a lot wrong with being racist, and don’t lump me in with you. I have friends of every race and color because stuff like that does not make a difference to me. I go based on the person not the color of their skin or the way they look. People that contribute to the racism they complain about are just as much to blame as everyone else. Racism is the ultimate form of ignorance, people should be judged for what they do and who they are as a person not by their race.
Please! Someone get out the violin.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Fitz is 6′3 and Crabtree is 6′1, stop comparing the 2 it is a terrible comparison.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
PICK “DA TREE”
March 13th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
darkknight01 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
edward teach Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 11:51 am
I really don’t think we’re going OT with our first pick. There are still a few pretty good options out there in free agency, and I think the main reason no one but Pears has been signed yet is that we are now in a buyer’s market. Things have slowed way down now that the big names have their contracts, and the game of “chicken” has begun between agents and owners. Of the tackles we’ve been linked to, only Willis has signed elsewhere, and he re-upped with the Seahawks. Duke Preston is still out there too, unless I’ve missed something.
I’m really not as concerned (yet) with the defense as some others. It is entirely possible that Marshall (who has years of success with the 4-3) has seen major problems with Ryan’s implementation of the talent we have and feels like he can get a lot more out of the group than Ryan did. Doesn’t mean we won’t address a few things there, but I don’t think we know enough about his ideas to say that this or that guy needs to go, or we need to draft player X or player Y. Someone mentioned earlier how terrible our pass rush was last year, but in sacks per pass attempt (which is a more accurate measurement) we were actually pretty good.
The plan is a little clearer for the offense; Hackett was hired to work with JR (a hire that is not to be underestimated), and Tollner was hired specifically to bring more production to the passing game with a specific style of attack. The message here is, I believe, that we’re paying a big, strong-armed QB a lot of money and he is our franchise. We are going to utilize his talents a lot more than we have in the past, because that’s why we brought him in here in the first place.
We have a darn good TE, and it would be safe to say that we are set at RB. It appears as if we are looking for starting offensive tackles through free agency.
Unless a person is looking through the WR position with rose-colored glasses, it is apparent how thin we are there relative to what we know about the approach to offense going forward. Higgins is 5-10/185 and returns punts. Red flag. Walker is damaged goods, physically for sure and quite possibly mentally as well. Red flag. Drew Carter doesn’t have one terrible knee, he has two of them. Red flag. Arman Shields spent the entire year on injured reserve, had a major knee injury in college, and has not caught a single regular-season pass in the NFL. Red flag. Todd Watkins???
Scilens finished the year nicely, and JLH is certainly a threat, but beyond that we have, essentially, nothing that can be counted on. I really don’t think that adds up, considering what it appears we’re looking to do offensively.
^^^^It’s going to a WR or OT or a TRADE DOWN.
In a TRADE DOWN scenario….we can then draft Alex Mack….then hopefully trade back up and get Heyward-Bey or Kenny Britt.
Then again a solid Center like Eric Wood or Antoine Caldwell can be picked in Round 2 and 3 respectively.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Good points make by Teach, Rockstar and Oakglenn regarding the offense vs. defense.
I would add this. The Raiders offense looked good when the running game was effective. Namely K.C, Texans, Bucs and Broncos. Against the Jets, Fargas had 28 carries. In too many games, all the pressure was on Russell to make plays. Part of the reason Flacco and Ryan were so successfull, Eli Mannning too, is because of very good running games.
The Raiders SHOULD be a run 1st offense with a healthy DMAC and Bush getting more carries. A run-mauler on the right side that can pass protect will do more for this offense then a WR or even LT upgrade.
If the Raiders run the ball well and we incorporate the DMAC/Bush in the passing game, our current roster of receivers and TEs should be enough for an effective offense.
Defensively, a DT like Raji taking up double teams and making plays in the backfield:
1. Upgrades the starting lineup at DT
2. Makes Morrison, Howard and Brown much better
3. Makes the DTs better with depth and rotation
4. Frees up the DE on more one-on-one or forces offenses to leave the TE or RB in for blocking support
If Raji plays up to billing (like all picks) that’s 5 positions on defense that can get better with one pick.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Craptree lacks the athleticism Al covets. I cant believe you guys are fooled. Single coverages is all he faced with 4 and 5 wr sets. Be serious
March 13th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Crabtree was the #1 player on all boards at the beginning and end of the season. if hes their at #7 we take him!!
March 13th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Als’ sagging lower jaw Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
andre smiths tits are too big for shoulder pads..
^^^I think Andre Smith got suckered into taking his shirt off by a team in the 13-22 range.
Why haven’t we seen BJ Raji run with his shirt off??
He is shorter and fatter than Smith! LOL
March 13th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Good point Dirt Lot…
How do we know that our receivers weren’t just having fluke years, also. You never know…but will not agree with Crabtree if he is the one selected, but will support him in S&B!!!
March 13th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Raji is so weak…
March 13th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
This needs to be a year we draft all linemen on defense and offense, Philly does it every year and has been competitive. At this point we need to get back to competitive, Donovan has gotten it done with subpar receivers for years because he has had a stout O-line. Russell is a talent but he can’t do anything with 2-3 people on him at all times. Give him some time he will destroy teams.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Orlando Pace
March 13th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
That wr from Texas Michael Crabgrass will be nothing better than a possesion receiver at best. Mark my words.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
defensive tackles that are run stoppers are supposed to be bigger, because their job is to eat up blockers. Raji being short is an advantage because he can get low on his blockers for leverage and hold the point of attack and push them back.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Tim ran slow as hell after he tore up his knee.. he wasn’t a great pro when he was fast.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
and crabtree had so much separation, look at the stats.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Kell i agree. You draft a big time wr in the top 10 who is a playmaker. Is Craptree? Nope
March 13th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Crabtree does not get consisten separation, if he can’t do it consistently on college DB’s I don’t see him doing it in the NFL. For those of you envisioning him jumping over DB’s think Mike Williams who was 4-6 inches taller than him and did this on every DB in college but couldn’t get separation, that worked out real well for him in the pro’s.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
THAT IS THE CIRCLE THESE THING’S GO IN HWNDR, DOES THE TEAM PASS ON CRABTREE WAITING ON THE KID’S 2 DEVELOPE, IF THEY DO NOT AND CRABTREE IS A STUD YOU HAVE BLOWN IT , IF THE KIDS TAKE OFF AND ARE SUPER-STAR’S AND CRABTREE IS A BUST THEN…GLAD I DO NOT MAKE THE DECISION’S, SOMBODY WILL HAVE TO, AND SOON…
March 13th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
are second round pick has to be a center so…..
WR in the first or we wait till next year again.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
That many Draft “Experts” have us taking Maclin? Crap.
I would rather have any of my top 7 (see below), ahead of Maclin. I think most of the nation would agree, we would rather have Mack with the #7 pick, than Maclin.
1. Eugene Monroe-kid doesn’t let anybody past him
2. Aaron Curry-freakish skills and athleticsm
3. Michael Oher-Is SOLID and did it in the SEC
4. Brian Orakpo-stops the run and rushes the passer
5. Andre Smith-guy has skills, but also issues
6. Jason Smith-way,way over-hyped but loads of skill
7. BJ Raji-not a Nose Tackle, plays 3-Tech, kinda looks like Gerard Warren out there to me, but nastier
March 13th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
40 times should not sway your judgment. 2″ should not either. There is not much difference between 6′1 and 6′3. Come on. If you got it, you got it.
Tim brown ran a 4.4 If I recall or maybe even slower.
What did jerry rice run? what did t.o. run?
All crab needs to run is 4.4-4.5 range. Tim brown lost a step after he blew his knee out and he still had long touchdown catches.It’s all about calling the right play at the right time. the rest of the rounds we get defense and offensive linemen. I am cool with that!!!!!!!!!!!
March 13th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Wow this Munoz guy is “demoting” the “General” with every post…
Hey Private Brien, explain to Munoz which side of the offense is the strong side, just for laughs.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
I was referring to Timmy 40 coming out of ND. Thats why Al got him. Timmy was still fast after 89 tho. Dont be fooled
March 13th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
those linemen are not bluechip players
March 13th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
DIRT LOT FOOTBALL Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
THING IS 4EVA, HOW DO U KNOW THEY WILL BE ALL WORLD UNTIL TEN TRS DOWN THE ROAD ? THAT’S THE GAMBLE
Back in the day Branch ran a wind assisted 9.0 100 at Colorado,I thought was the closest thing 2 a sure thing.But you are right Dirt Lot it’s all a gamble,except 9.0 hundreds,imo
March 13th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
BJS, he has said nada at all. I know its your hope someone can deal with me but it wont happen
March 13th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
WR or Russel struggles to score again this year.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Brien the General Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
BJS, he has said nada at all. I know its your hope someone can deal with me but it wont happen
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You can deal with yourself well enough, no one needs to help. Tell us again which side is the strong side?
March 13th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Als’ sagging lower jaw Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
are second round pick has to be a center so…..
WR in the first or we wait till next year again.
If you aks me it should be our secoond round pick.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Tim Brown was the man!!!!
March 13th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Crabtree, Maclin or Maualuga: can’t go wrong with any of the three.
Although, if a trade down with Philly or Detroit were there; or a trade of No. 7 for Boldin, I’d take those options first.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
SOMEBODY FIND OUT WHAT TIM BROWN’S 40 TIME WAS?
March 13th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
BJS, you people love the strong side stuff lol. No one still can correctly dispute the fact that the TE lines up next to the RT more times than not.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Saving Private Brien lol. Good one BJS, but just like the movie that was years ago. I have upgraded to General. Drop and gimme 50
March 13th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
That many Draft “Experts” have us taking Maclin? Crap.
I would rather have any of my top 7 (see below), ahead of Maclin. I think most of the nation would agree, we would rather have Mack with the #7 pick, than Maclin.
1. Eugene Monroe-kid doesn’t let anybody past him
2. Aaron Curry-freakish skills and athleticsm
3. Michael Oher-Is SOLID and did it in the SEC
4. Brian Orakpo-stops the run and rushes the passer
5. Andre Smith-guy has skills, but also issues
6. Jason Smith-way,way over-hyped but loads of skill
7. BJ Raji-not a Nose Tackle, plays 3-Tech, kinda looks like Gerard Warren out there to me, but nastier
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Agreed! Whatever the Raiders decide to do that 1st pick needs to be DEDICATED to fixing the D-Line or O-Line.
No skill position players at 7. If the Raiders were to draft Jeremy Maclin then I might have to give it up.
Maclin plays mostly in the slot at Mizzourah and he plays in a Playstation 3 offense where they toss the ball around and spread the defense.
Can Maclin work off of press coverage? Can he read zones? Can he run NFL routes?
I would not draft a receiver in the top 10 unless they had the production in college AND can’t miss measurables. There are too many receivers of similiar talent all throughout the draft!
March 13th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
BJS I stopped bothering to acknowledge him, to acknowledge an ignorant person is only feeding the fire. I am here to talk about football with my fellow Raider fans not trade insults with someone.
I like Raji as our pick because if he plays up to his billing he improves more than 1 position on our defense. WR at 7 is a bust waiting to happen, WR’s can be found in later rounds (Boldin, T.O., Colston etc.)
March 13th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Did anyone watch anquan boldin in college?
He was average at best. I watched florida state all
the time. He was up and down. Crabtree and Boldin are around the same size. Boldin ran a 4.6. You want him over Crabtree?????????????????
March 13th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
SUUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPP 408???
March 13th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
BJS dispute it please. Maybe you can look at hs,college and pros seeing where the TE lines up more times than not.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
You and I both Dirt Lot. Most times if all GM’s (in our case…owner) listened to media and fans, that will also be a hit and miss. Glad I don’t make the decisions. Funny how every one gets pissed though at the selection.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Brien the General Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
BJS, you people love the strong side stuff lol. No one still can correctly dispute the fact that the TE lines up next to the RT more times than not.
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I can’t dispute it. However you did not claim the right side is the strong side MORE TIMES THAN NOT, now did you?
March 13th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Risers
BJ Raji/DL/Boston College: Raji stood on most of his combine numbers, only doing position drills during the Boston College pro day Thursday, yet he continued to impress NFL scouts. He looked fluid and very athletic, quickly moving around the field. Scouts now feel it may be a waste to use Raji at nose tackle or as a two-gap defender, rather they feel he has the ability to line up as a three technique lineman. In other words, NFL decision-makers think Raji has the skills to chase the quarterback and make plays on ball carriers as opposed to just clogging the line of scrimmage. Raji has moved into the draft’s top six picks barring any unforeseen red flags at the last minute.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/03/13/prodays/index.html?eref=T1
March 13th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Russell was connecting with his WR’s just fine at the end of the season. In fact I would say Russell might struggle if we introduce too many new WR’s this season.
My theory on our offense in those last few games is this: When Henderson started in favor of Harris, Miller was constantly placed on that side to chip block. The duo of Miller and Henderson allowed Russell more time in the pocket, but it also forced Russell to get comfortable with his other WR’s, as his favorite target, Miller was not running as many routes.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Our lines need to be heavily addressed in this years draft, let’s be realistic we aren’t winning the Superbowl this year so we need to start putting the pieces of the foundation in place. If we play the draft right this year and build a stud O and D line, next year we are free to build up the skill positions.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
408 in da house
March 13th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
yedp I watched Boldin at FSU,then watched him get 1000 yards in each of his 1st 3 seasons at AZ
March 13th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Brien the General Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
BJS, you people love the strong side stuff lol. No one still can correctly dispute the fact that the TE lines up next to the RT more times than not.
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And if I have to spell “Brien” with an e (which is weak), you can at least get my initials in the right order…
March 13th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
4eva I just wish we had some 1 like timmy @ WR I dont care if the dude is slow as long as he can hang on to the damn rock and get past the marker on 3rd down!!
March 13th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
The Raiders offense looked good when the running game was effective. Namely K.C, Texans, Bucs and Broncos. Against the Jets, Fargas had 28 carries. In too many games, all the pressure was on Russell to make plays. Part of the reason Flacco and Ryan were so successfull, Eli Mannning too, is because of very good running games.
The Raiders SHOULD be a run 1st offense with a healthy DMAC and Bush getting more carries. A run-mauler on the right side that can pass protect will do more for this offense then a WR or even LT upgrade.
If the Raiders run the ball well and we incorporate the DMAC/Bush in the passing game, our current roster of receivers and TEs should be enough for an effective offense.
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S&B: as of today, the Raiders are weak at C, RG, RT and LT is still a question mark. We decided to wait a year on replacing Carlisle (which is fine). Gallery will obviously keep his job. The other 3 spots on the o-line are up for grabs. Even if all 3 RB’s are healthy, that doesn’t mean they’ll be effective. Think about it when we play teams like the Ravens, Chargers, Vikings, Steelers or Eagles. We don’t have a “mauler” unless you’re referring to Cornell Green, who is complete trash as an NFL starter. Look at those teams we were able to run against. Not 1 made the playoffs. The o-line isn’t good enough and neither is the WR corps.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
yes we would rather have Boldin who is proven over Crabtree who has done 0 in the NFL.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Crabtree isn’t as tall as Fitz….but has the same OVERALL SKILLS as Fitz.
Fitz has big hands and uses his hands to catch the ball…..so does Crabtree.
Fitz didn’t have a phenomenol under 4.45 forty time and chances are Crabs wouldn’t have either….
Fitz has great body control in pads and so does Crabtree…..
Fitz plays faster than his straight line forty time indicates IN PADS and so does Crabs.
It took Fitz two seasons to improve overall route running in the NFL and it will probably take Crabs two years as well.
Fitz plays physical and so does Crabtree.
Fitz is a solid 217 lbs and Crabtree is a solid 215 lbs.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Brien with an E is weak based on what? Please I cant wait to hear this
March 13th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
BSJ I learned that arguing with the mind of a 2 year old will get you no where. Better to state your point and move on to things that have more substance and talk to people that can carry on an adult conversation.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Brien, I have to admit there is a very noticable difference between your brand of lunatic ranting and the ranting of your troll. In time, Munoz will learn to spot the obvious MR giveaway phrases.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Tim Brown ran a 4.38 40…same as Schilens and Shields
July 22
Irish Legend
Tim Brown, Flanker/Split end (1984-87), 6′0″, 195 lbs. is born in 1966.
Tim Brown was one of the finest players ever to don a Fighting Irish uniform. A phenomenal athlete, he was one of the fastest quarter milers in the country at Dallas’s Woodrow Wilson High School, and on the football team he gained more than 4,000 all-purpose yards and was a high school All- American. Still, in his three years of varsity play, his team won only four games.
Brown then moved on to Notre Dame– where four victories usually come in four weeks. He played for both Gerry Faust and Lou Holtz, and by the time he left to play in the pros he was regarded as one of the most explosive all-around talents in Notre Dame history. His 4.38-second, 40-yard-dash speed and Heisman Trophy may have had something to do with that. In his four years at Notre Dame, the school won twenty-five games. Although this was not close to one of the school’s best eras (the team also racked up twenty losses), it was quite an improvement for Brown.
http://www.irishlegends.com/pages/calendar/0702.asp
March 13th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Craptree had the benefit of those vaunted big 12 defenses lol
March 13th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Brien the General Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Brien with an E is weak based on what? Please I cant wait to hear this
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It seems feminine to type, kinda like Brienne. Sorry.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
So you want to take someone that is going to take 2 years to show up on the field? We need players that are going to impact the team now, not in 2 years.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
hey 408 I think I figured my IM out
March 13th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
S&B: If you think 1 DT makes all the difference, how come Dorsey & Ellis didn’t make all the difference for the Chiefs & Saints last year?
Neither team could stop the run. What makes the Raiders situation better?
even defense vs defense. 1 DT doesn’t solve issues at DE, LB & S. It’s a collective team effort. John Marshall would have a better run defense with Warren & Sands than Rob Ryan would with Raji & Haynesworth.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
I would wait one more year before turning McFadden loose. I would keep him on the bench, maybe let him to block or as a decoy. Next year he should be ready to contribute.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Crabtree = M. Westbrook. I’ll pass.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
LOL at MY troll on 203. TYVM troll.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Ha now you shall be called Bo due to that last post. But notice the softness of Munoz not admitting he got confused lol
March 13th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
# DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
I like Raji as our pick because if he plays up to his billing he improves more than 1 position on our defense. WR at 7 is a bust waiting to happen, WR’s can be found in later rounds (Boldin, T.O., Colston etc.)
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And DTs aren’t found in later rounds?
Look at some of the most recent Pro Bowlers at DT:
– Jay Ratliff: 7th round
– Pat Williams: Undrafted
– Kris Jenkins: 2nd round
– Shaun Rodgers: 2nd round
33% (2 out of 6) Pro Bowl DTs — Kevin Williams and Albert Haynesworth — were 1st rounders.
50% (4 of
Pro Bowl WRs were 1st-round picks.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
A WR that shows up in 2 years < a linemen that plays from day 1
March 13th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Wasnt Boldin Rookie of the year.I mean the general concensous is it takes 3 years for a WR 2 make it in the nfl.Boldin has a 1000 yards in all of his 4 short years in the nfl.Crabtree will not do that,imo
March 13th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
RaiderRockstar,
I acknowledge that the O-Line has holes. Maybe not as many as you see. I agree 1,000% that the RT position has to be upgraded and the draft may be the best way to do it. Center needs help too. Hoping that they get one of the highly rated 3 Centers in the 2nd round.
Bush and DMAC are up to it. They inexplicably didn’t get the ball until the 2nd half of most games. DMAC better be effective! He was a 4th overall pick! Bush can be effective as he single handedly dismantled the Bucs on 27 carries. Give those two the ball consistently, get a C and RT and let Russell keep working with Hackett, Tollner and the receivers and the offense can be effective.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Crabtree is not that fast in pads…
and he would have to learn route-running (and blocking) in the NFL, not just improve on it.
Crabtree seems like the best WR in this class, but because of the spread offense he worked in at TTech, it is a mystery how he will perform in NFL offenses, against bigger, faster DB’s.
Fitz and Boldin are VERY physical, they consistently break NFL tackles to create YAC. Whether or not Crabtree is that physical has yet to be determined, but on film I didn’t see him blasting defenders.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Chris you think that we would be better off with a WR then a linemen?
March 13th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Brien the General Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Troll you back? Now you take Bo identity because you get dogged on the daily
Come to Tracy Brien.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
DT is a major need. I miss Ted Washington, who I think qualifies as the largest Raider ever. Any dispute?
We should have taken a chance on big Gravy Jackson.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
yedp I watched Boldin at FSU,then watched him get 1000 yards in each of his 1st 3 seasons at AZ
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Exactly, Boldin was very good in college. Don’t know what that other dude was talking about. I was hoping the Raiders could steal him in the 3rd round that year, where he was projected to go because of a 4.7 40-time, but the Cardinals went ahead and took him about half-way through Round 2.
Incidentally, our pick at the end of the 2nd round: Teyo Johnson.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
why is everybody crazy about Boldin? he’s exactly the type of player that comes to the Raiders and flops.
1. Injury history: facial fracture, shoulder injury, strained hamstring (both left & right) and thats just last season.
2. disgruntled & demands to be traded
3. wants to get PAID
only difference is he ran a 4.71 time in the 40-yard dash at the NFL Combine. And you guys think Crabtree is slow? Boldin is also 6′1″ – just like Crabs
March 13th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Lol my god Tracy? 209? Im done
March 13th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
We have neglected the line for too long in the draft, Gallery and Grove scared Al. But he needs to get back in there and try again cause he has screwed up on just as many skill positions. We need to build are lines up and work from there.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
# DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
I like Raji as our pick because if he plays up to his billing he improves more than 1 position on our defense. WR at 7 is a bust waiting to happen, WR’s can be found in later rounds (Boldin, T.O., Colston etc.)
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And DTs aren’t found in later rounds?
Look at some of the most recent Pro Bowlers at DT:
– Jay Ratliff: 7th round
– Pat Williams: Undrafted
– Kris Jenkins: 2nd round
– Shaun Rodgers: 2nd round
33% (2 out of 6) Pro Bowl DTs — Kevin Williams and Albert Haynesworth — were 1st rounders.
50% (4 of Pro Bowl WRs were 1st-round picks.
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2nd round would be fine. But the Raiders will be using that #2 on a Center right?
I’ll bet the number of great WRs found throughout the draft far eclipse the number of DTs found
March 13th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Boldin is a proven player, Crabtree is not how do you not get that. How many Pro Bowls has Boldin been to and how many have Crabtree gone too? End of discussion.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
DMunoz26,
I think they should go WR or o-lineman since those are the biggest needs. I really like Phil Loadholt or Mack in Round 2, so I’d lean toward WR at No. 7.
The only d-lineman who I think is worth the No. 7 pick is Orakpo, and I’m pretty sure he’ll be gone by then. The only other defensive players I like there are Curry (definitely gone) and Rey Maualuga. All I’m saying is that if the Raiders don’t draft Maualuga, I really hope he doesn’t go to Denver or San Diego. That guy is going to dish out punishment for years.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Drafting Craptree does nada for a team that lacks toughness.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
raiders desparately need an intimadating linebacker corp. morrison can’t get off of blocks and fill gaps. a good linebacking corp makes the backs and line lives easier and strikes fear in opposing QBs. Pick up the stud from USC. We need another Millin, linebacker not GM.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
I say Sign Orlando Pace to a two-year deal with a third year option, take Maclin at # 7, and go Defensive tackle at #39
March 13th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Chris In NY,
I like Rey Maualuga as MLB moving Morrison to the strong side but he is a liability in coverage. However he is a thumper in the Ray Lewis mold, I would not be mad with that pick but I don’t see Al making that pick. I also like Larinitis at strong side possibly middle
March 13th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
The Only Wide Receiver the Raiders are going to Select that has the Speed and is a Natural Receiver, that can fit everything the Raiders do and is built like Mcfadden is Derrius Heyward Bey,
Scouts call this guy the Next Fred Biletnikoff. When Al Davis see’s this 4.3 speed and 6′2 Frame that can torch a corner then thats who we will pick..
Maclin is already injured before camp, Crabtree same thing.
We need a Guy that is Ready to Go, The Best Receiver is comming out of the ACC again this year, First there was Calvin Johnson now there is Derrius Heyward bey the X factor receiver.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
If Andre Smith is there at 7 he has to be the pick. With Smith and Henderson, our tackles are set for the next 10 years. The Raiders need to decide of they want to trade back into the first to pick up Mack or Unger or stay put and hope one falls to them. If both centers are gone I take Robinske in the second. He may develop into a number 1 receiver but at the worst he’s a solid number 2 receiver. Some of the other receivers in the second are boom or bust, they me be great or they may be out of the leage in a couple of years.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Boldin is a proven player, Crabtree is not how do you not get that. How many Pro Bowls has Boldin been to and how many have Crabtree gone too?
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how many pro bowls would you think Crabtree has gone to? He hasn’t entered the NFL yet!
Boldin has PROVEN he’s got attitude problems, he cares more about money than winning, he’s injury prone and he doesn’t care about his teammates. Warner & Fitzgerald both offered to take paycuts to pay him more and keep him in AZ. He doesn’t care. He wants OUT. Cards GM & HC both said Boldin was a priority this offseason … it’s on him
March 13th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
# DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Boldin is a proven player, Crabtree is not how do you not get that. How many Pro Bowls has Boldin been to and how many have Crabtree gone too? End of discussion.
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Exactly. I do like Crabtree but you just never know with a draft pick. Boldin is easily a top-5 WR in the NFL right now. And he moves the chains — we need a guy like that.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
HOLD IT!ONE MINUTE!ALL of US are saying we wan’t this and we wan’t that.This not a TUG of WAR between OFFENCE and DEFENCE,like if we ask SANTA AL to bring that!!!NO NO,AL and OLD LAMONICA BOYS beleive in “HITTING THEM with THE BOMB” or OKLAND 7 and VISITORS 0. Or have you forgotten what BRADY DOES TO THE OTHER TEAM! He and coach MAILACHECK SCORE FIRST AND SEE IF YOU CAN NEXT.Thats how u play!! “THEN HAVE THE OLD TIMER DEFENCE RAIDERS ON THE SIDE LINE,LIKE HOWI,TATUM,AND MAYBE MADDEN TO BE READY TO THROW A FIRE EXTINGUISHER OR BUCKET OF GATOREADE TO THOSE DE-FENSIVE GUYS THAT LOOK LIKE DONKEYS!! You see, he who hits first hits twice. And for the 09 DRAFT ,”WE do ,like the DIRTY DOZEN,we pick 1 OFFENCE AND 1DE-FENCE then 1 OFFENCE AND 1 DE-FENCE” but NOT SO FAST,I wan’t to have ALL THE RAIDER COACHES AND THE WHOLE ADMINISTRATION THERE WHEN THE SHOW STARTS!!! JUST TO MAKE SURE WE PICK WHAT WE NEED. LIKE ,”GOOD LITTLE BRADYS”
March 13th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Andre Smith……..19 reps…………pallleaaase///….although I do like your thinking in Robiskie in the 2nd round
March 13th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Boldin is garbage. I’ll pass
give me a player without the injuries & attitude
WR’s are dime a dozen in the right offense
March 13th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
RRS
Boldin is proven, but he does want money. Boldin wanted out of Az since before the year, and last year as well I believe. The front office did him dirty, in his eyes, and didn’t give him the money they gave Fitzgerald. I think Boldin’s just as good, and he rubbed off on Fitz a bit, as Larry wasn’t quite as tough til Q showed him whats up and Haley called for plays up the middle.
Hes a marquee guy, and Al’s a player’s owner that will, if nothing else, show him the money.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Ill take a RT and a C…. I think were good @ WR
March 13th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
cris in new york. Go look at boldins stats. He wasn’t that good. you don’t know what your talking about.
The last best receiver from florida state was Peter Warrick. Javon walker was not even that good. Don’t act like you knew boldin was goind to be good. He has fitzgerald on the other side. Fitz was good in college at Pittsburg and in the pros.Most people had him rated very high coming out of the draft. Oh wait was it that speed thing that made him no good. Boldin will be a average receiver on another team if he is a # 1.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Stop talking about trading down, c’mon seriously. Who really thinks Al is going to pass on the #1 receiver this year?. We’re taking a WR with the #7 pick, period.
We’re paying JR a fat amount and I garantee you Al will get him the deep threat WR he needs to be the frachinse QB. We don’t need a dominant offisive line(it would be nice though), we need one to atleast be average.
Put some damn points on the board!
March 13th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Kell anything huh? Lol keep trying
March 13th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Boldin recovers from injuries quick, too. Dude had a broken face and only missed limited time. He’s the toughest WR since Hines, IMO.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
gotta jet, boss is on me for the net useage.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
LAto theBay :
I think if Al Davis was still looking for misfits he would have signed Owens & Barnes last week
Boldin’s best football is behind him. You’ll see how average he looks w/o Warner, Fitzgerald & Breaston.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Starting NFL wide recievers that do not run faster than 4.5 seconds for 40 yards…
Hines Ward
Anquan Boldin
Reggie Wayne
Chad Johnson
Wes Welker
Plaxico Burress
Terrell Owens
TJ Houshmenzadeh
Larry Fitzgerald
There are others, but I’ve listed the best ones in terms of production.
A few Oakland Raider “speed receivers”:
Willie Gault
James Jett
Alvis Whitted
Carlos Francis
Doug Gabriel
Jesse Hester
Desmond Howard
Raghib Ismail
The point being, of course, is that fast 40 times don’t mean a whole lot. The last “speed reciever” we had that produced was Cliff Branch. Timmy was pretty fast but his route-running and his hands were what made him great. If it was his speed I think his career YPC would have reflected that.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
The Boldin attitude stuff is overblown. The guy is just looking to get paid what he’s worth while he can get it. The owners have no loyalty to the players and vice-versa. That’s how it’s set up.
The fight on the sidelines? Whatever. Haley is a dick.
Boldin has such an attitude problem he came back a few weeks after having his face broken to help the organization that’s screwing him over get to a Super Bowl. And other players on his team are willing to give up money to keep him around. Yeah, sounds like the type of guy you’d want no part of.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Rashad Baker going to the Eagles,is a clear sign,what will happen in the 1st round…we will trade down with the philly…
everything this off-season has been right so far,i expect a trade-down,to avoid the big contracts and to try to get two starters in the 1st
March 13th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
S&B: If you think 1 DT makes all the difference, how come Dorsey & Ellis didn’t make all the difference for the Chiefs & Saints last year?
Neither team could stop the run. What makes the Raiders situation better?
even defense vs defense. 1 DT doesn’t solve issues at DE, LB & S. It’s a collective team effort. John Marshall would have a better run defense with Warren & Sands than Rob Ryan would with Raji & Haynesworth.
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Dorsey and Ellis were hobbled by injuries. I’m sure that stunted their growth.
1 player never makes a team. But a good DT certainly helps. No player or position is bust proof. The Raiders know that all too well. But a good DT/NT does make the rest of the defense better. Look at any and all of the good defenses. They all have a big nasties up the middle. (Ravens, Steelers, Giants, Titans, Eagles, Vikings all have size and versatility up the middle.
And almost all good run defenses do as well.
I am willing to give a pass to Marshall and I do see him as an upgrade to Rob Ryan.
But let’s not mistake John Marshall for Rex Ryan, Jim Johnson or Jeff Fisher now….
March 13th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
“Timmy was pretty fast but his route-running and his hands were what made him great. If it was his speed I think his career YPC would have reflected that.”
Private Brien, acknowledge the truth.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Stockton Raider Boldin went over 1k yards receiving before Fitz was even drafted
March 13th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
I say find a way to trade down with Philly…
1-21 Traded to AZ for Boldin
1-28 C Alex Mack
2-40 RT Troy Kropog
3-71 MLB Jasper Brinkley
4-103 NT Terrance Taylor
6-167 DE Stryker Sulak
7-199 SS Courtney Greene
March 13th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
# STOCKTON RAIDER Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
cris in new york. Go look at boldins stats. He wasn’t that good. you don’t know what your talking about.
The last best receiver from florida state was Peter Warrick. Javon walker was not even that good. Don’t act like you knew boldin was goind to be good. He has fitzgerald on the other side. Fitz was good in college at Pittsburg and in the pros.Most people had him rated very high coming out of the draft. Oh wait was it that speed thing that made him no good. Boldin will be a average receiver on another team if he is a # 1.
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Stockton,
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Boldin had like 1,400 yards and won Rookie of the Year while Fitzgerald was still at Pitt. His QBs that year — Jeff Blake and Josh McCown. Oh yeah, he’s nothing without Fitzgerald and a great QB.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Lets see how others YAC are with trash around them. Better Timmy numbers much better.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Ed Freakin Tech!!!!!!! Now you are with me. I keep telling these guys that 4.3-4. 40 times don’t equal success. You are a 100% right. Once these “speedsters” get hurt a knee scope or surgery or two. Guess what? They are running 4.5s in the NFL. If they are straight line guys and use to using their speed they will not be able to be physical enough to make plays. You have to look at the receivers who fight for the ball with tinacity and flat out make plays. Look out how Crabtree fights for the ball and what he does after the catch. What the heck type of trick offense can make a guy catch the ball 90% of the time adjust to the ball the way he does and make plays. They had this guys # for two years and they could not stop him. Every corner in the NFL runs a 4.4 forty so what does that mean to a burner only? Maclin is just like Teddy Ginn out of OSU. Actually Ginn had better highlights check out youtube. Now Ginn is a decent WR for Miami but he gets beat up and struggles to make big plays. Crabtree will consistantly make the big play.
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edward teach Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Starting NFL wide recievers that do not run faster than 4.5 seconds for 40 yards…
Hines Ward
Anquan Boldin
Reggie Wayne
Chad Johnson
Wes Welker
Plaxico Burress
Terrell Owens
TJ Houshmenzadeh
Larry Fitzgerald
There are others, but I’ve listed the best ones in terms of production.
A few Oakland Raider “speed receivers”:
Willie Gault
James Jett
Alvis Whitted
Carlos Francis
Doug Gabriel
Jesse Hester
Desmond Howard
Raghib Ismail
The point being, of course, is that fast 40 times don’t mean a whole lot. The last “speed reciever” we had that produced was Cliff Branch. Timmy was pretty fast but his route-running and his hands were what made him great. If it was his speed I think his career YPC would have reflected that.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Crabtree shouldn’t be the pick (OL, DL or even LB first) but he’s a hell of a receiver and those who don’t think so are stuck on measurables which is what you blame Al Davis for. Chris Carter, Sterling Sharpe, Hines Ward, and Marvin Harrison wouldn’t have been drafted by you guys and you would’ve regretted it
March 13th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
A WR’s YAC is only effected by the QB not the players around him. YAC is the WR’s ability to break tackles and make yards. I only include the QB cause he has to put the ball in a good spot for the WR to run. But lets be honest Tim Brown Fell to the ground too often with a defender coming at him.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
San Diego? Ha another place in search of an identity
March 13th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Tim Brown – 6′0 195 4.38 40 yd dash
Arman Shields – 6′1 195 4.38 40 yd dash
My guess is that Mr. Davis has your Tim Brown of the future right here.
At the least he’s going to give Shields every opportunity.
Davis is a measurables guy. I don’t like this philosophy, but Davis took a flyer on this guy in the 4th round and sat him out a year.
Schilens and JLH were already touted by Davis and Cable at the press conference. They will be expected to significantly contribute.
So that leaves Javon Walker…The Raiders are going to give him evey opportunity to get on the field.
So that’s 4 receivers. Two of them played well down the stretch, while 1 was given a redshirt. The other an expensive free agent. Who sits? Who becomes the 2009 version of Todd Watkins?
No WR will be drafted at #7
March 13th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
The Rams just cut Torry Holt
March 13th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
I am willing to give a pass to Marshall and I do see him as an upgrade to Rob Ryan.
But let’s not mistake John Marshall for Rex Ryan, Jim Johnson or Jeff Fisher now….
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Jim Johnson & Jeff Fisher made it to the Super Bowl and lost, just like John Marshall. Rex Ryan wasn’t the DC of the Ravens when they won the Super Bowl in 2000 – Marvin Lewis was …
Dorsey sprained his knee in August last year, but started 16 games.
Ellis missed 4 games with a knee injury. Played in 13 games, starting 12
were their injuries really an excuse for being non factors in run defense?
March 13th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Tim Brown averaged 13.7 yards per catch over his entire career. If he had great YAC he must have been catching some pretty short passes (be careful; that’s a trap).
He also only had 10 or more touchdowns twice in his career. So much for the home run threat theory.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Brien the General Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Blow job Schlembitcher, you proved what? Timmy had great YAC. Too bad he had to sacrifice so much due to lack of talent around him
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I thought I was Bo now…
March 13th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Munoz is his later years he did that not in the 90s. Timmy broke many tackles then. That was with the whole D aware he was getting the ball.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
I was just say that Rams cut Torry holt, DMunoz….
March 13th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
I OWN lil poseur Brien
March 13th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Demon Raider Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
I say find a way to trade down with Philly…
1-21 Traded to AZ for Boldin
1-28 C Alex Mack
2-40 RT Troy Kropog
3-71 MLB Jasper Brinkley
4-103 NT Terrance Taylor
6-167 DE Stryker Sulak
7-199 SS Courtney Greene
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Arizona is going to want more than the #21 pick for Boldin. Especially after the Lions received a 1st, 3rd and 6th for Roy Williams, who is not nearly as good as Boldin.
I think the Eagles will trade their 1st and 3rd for Boldin. That’s what’s going to happen
March 13th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
CJ34… I’ve been in Crabtree’s camp all along. He’s going to be great, IMHO. Whomever passes on him is going to hate themselves for doing it.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
I am he went down later in his career, him doing that also skewed his numbers. Instead of fighting for yards he went down without being touched to prolong his career.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
edward teach Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Tim Brown averaged 13.7 yards per catch over his entire career. If he had great YAC he must have been catching some pretty short passes (be careful; that’s a trap).
He also only had 10 or more touchdowns twice in his career. So much for the home run threat theory.
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Private First Class Brien, acknowledge the truth (you got a small promotion, now behave).
March 13th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Teach you do realize Timmy had to go underneath so much due to the fact the other wideouts wouldnt cuz they were punks
March 13th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
The Raiders are in need of a consisten move the chains WR, we already have a burner in JLH.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Holt would be a phenominal addition to teach the young WR’s the ropes, Marvin Harrison too although he would provide less productivity with his guidance.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
I am willing to give a pass to Marshall and I do see him as an upgrade to Rob Ryan.
But let’s not mistake John Marshall for Rex Ryan, Jim Johnson or Jeff Fisher now….
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Jim Johnson & Jeff Fisher made it to the Super Bowl and lost, just like John Marshall. Rex Ryan wasn’t the DC of the Ravens when they won the Super Bowl in 2000 – Marvin Lewis was …
Dorsey sprained his knee in August last year, but started 16 games.
Ellis missed 4 games with a knee injury. Played in 13 games, starting 12
were their injuries really an excuse for being non factors in run defense?
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John Marshall was released by the Seahawks so that the Raiders could sign him. All those other coaches are either still DCs or are now head coaches.
Dorsey was a disappointment for K.C but he was hurt prior to the draft and prior to the season. Plus, Dorsey is not the same type of player Raji is. Dorsey is lighter and strictly a one-gap guy. Raji is more stout, a NT that can beat the double team, not just absorb it.
Ellis had a knee injury mid season. We can no more judge Ellis than we can with Darren McFadden and the injuries he dealt with this year.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
The Raiders are in need of a consisten move the chains WR, we already have a burner in JLH.
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And with the 3rd pick, the Raiders select Brian Robiskie, WR Ohio State.
All set. And he might be the best receiver in the draft when its all said and done
March 13th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Crabtree is not that fast in pads…
and he would have to learn route-running (and blocking) in the NFL, not just improve on it.
Crabtree seems like the best WR in this class, but because of the spread offense he worked in at TTech, it is a mystery how he will perform in NFL offenses, against bigger, faster DB’s.
Fitz and Boldin are VERY physical, they consistently break NFL tackles to create YAC. Whether or not Crabtree is that physical has yet to be determined, but on film I didn’t see him blasting defenders.
^^^^Do some of you know how many TD’s…how many receptions and how many receiving yards he has had the last two years?
Look it up….and realize he has been the back to back Biletnikof Award Winner for a REASON!
March 13th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Kell you need attention? Ok….Al Davis Al Davis blah blah Al Davis
March 13th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Mario Williams was a bust his first year because he was hurt then turned into one of the best DE’s in the league.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Brien the General Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Teach you do realize Timmy had to go underneath so much due to the fact the other wideouts wouldnt cuz they were punks
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LMWAO. Yeah, if Timmy had HIS way he woulda blown by the defenders like Cliff Branch. And if Timmy REALLY had his way he woulda played for Denver.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
I don’t think anyone in their right mind would take Maclin over Crabtree. Most of those mocks have us taking Maclin, but if you look a little closer, they also have Crabtree already gone by the time we pick. Personally, I don’t want either one of them. I think we should try to get Holt from FA and draft Raji in the first and any of the badass centers coming out in the 2nd(Mack, Unger, Wood). This would make us playoff contenders IMO. Well, maybe not this year, our schedule is rediculous.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Brien you have a lot to learn young man
March 13th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Brien… I realize that those guys weren’t open because they were drafted as speed recievers and couldn’t run routes worth a damn. Cornerbacks played off them at the line and then covered them just fine after their 3-5 yard head start.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Lol kell. Wait to be a wise elder and lift the black man up haha
March 13th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Holt would be a phenominal addition to teach the young WR’s the ropes, Marvin Harrison too although he would provide less productivity with his guidance.
^^^I agree….Holt would be a good pickup..
March 13th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Teach exactly! It amazing Timmy put up those numbers and made all those plays.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Sign Holt, Sign Marvel Smith to a injury protected 2 yr deal. These two signings allow the Raiders some flexibility in the draft.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Get Holt. Im so with that move!
March 13th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
—–PLEASE READ—-AHHHHHH!!!!!!——————-
Let me put this in perspective!!!!
Crabtree caught the ball 90+% of the time in college.
WOn the Bilentikoff Award in both seasons playing in TX.
231 catches – 3,127 yards – 41 touchdowns in 2 years.
That is 20.5 TDs a year. He did it as a freshman and sophmore who use to play QB and Safety in High school.
Are you freaking kidding me??????? See this is what the NFL combine does to us Raider Nation. We listen to all of the Analyst some who never played nor coached pee wee football, who never even saw some of the players play on game day and they read other sports analysts blogs like “Jerry” and before you know it they start talking about the same obvious things over and over. His 40 times not fast, he is in a trick offense, he is an inch to short.
Our receivers could not reach the 500 yard mark this season and we pass on a guy coming out of college like Crabtree??? What have we become man??? Todd McShay’s drafts are off every year. McFadden was an easy pick last year he had the whole package. I think it is crazy to say Crabtree came out of a trick offense. That is crazy!!! What the heck is a trick offense and if it does exist, why did we not use it with our receivers last year? Better yet why did we not hire TX Tech coach as our receivers coach don’t we need some of that magic? Every college football team in America knew who this guy was and what he could do so how is that tricky? Crabtree made allot of plays all over the field some off screens, some on the sidelines, some jump balls, some catches falloing down. He made his QB look good catching bad passes behind him. He ran great routes and he fought for every yard. after he catches the ball he turns into a running back. Check out the film. We will give the bank to pro receivers with blown out knees but we shy away from a rookie with a minor foot operation?? Wow.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Cliff had who on the other side from him? Who was Cliffs qbs? Didnt Cliff have the greatest oline ever? Thanks try again
March 13th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Voldemort Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
I don’t think anyone in their right mind would take Maclin over Crabtree. Most of those mocks have us taking Maclin, but if you look a little closer, they also have Crabtree already gone by the time we pick. Personally, I don’t want either one of them. I think we should try to get Holt from FA and draft Raji in the first and any of the badass centers coming out in the 2nd(Mack, Unger, Wood). This would make us playoff contenders IMO. Well, maybe not this year, our schedule is rediculous
^^^^Agree with you on insane mocks having us take a track type of WR like Maclin ahead an overall threat like Crabs.
Agree with you how the team should go after Holt.
Disagree with Raji being the pick at #7
March 13th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Craptree didnt make jump ball catches. That is false
March 13th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Brien the General Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Cliff had who on the other side from him? Who was Cliffs qbs? Didnt Cliff have the greatest oline ever? Thanks try again
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And Timmy signed a contract to play for who? The Broncos? In his prime? Sorry try again.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
—–PLEASE READ—-AHHHHHH!!!!!!——————-
Let me put this in perspective!!!!
Crabtree caught the ball 90+% of the time in college.
WOn the Bilentikoff Award in both seasons playing in TX.
231 catches – 3,127 yards – 41 touchdowns in 2 years.
That is 20.5 TDs a year. He did it as a freshman and sophmore who use to play QB and Safety in High school.
Are you freaking kidding me??????? See this is what the NFL combine does to us Raider Nation. We listen to all of the Analyst some who never played nor coached pee wee football, who never even saw some of the players play on game day and they read other sports analysts blogs like “Jerry” and before you know it they start talking about the same obvious things over and over. His 40 times not fast, he is in a trick offense, he is an inch to short.
Our receivers could not reach the 500 yard mark this season and we pass on a guy coming out of college like Crabtree??? What have we become man??? Todd McShay’s drafts are off every year. McFadden was an easy pick last year he had the whole package. I think it is crazy to say Crabtree came out of a trick offense. That is crazy!!! What the heck is a trick offense and if it does exist, why did we not use it with our receivers last year? Better yet why did we not hire TX Tech coach as our receivers coach don’t we need some of that magic? Every college football team in America knew who this guy was and what he could do so how is that tricky? Crabtree made allot of plays all over the field some off screens, some on the sidelines, some jump balls, some catches falloing down. He made his QB look good catching bad passes behind him. He ran great routes and he fought for every yard. after he catches the ball he turns into a running back. Check out the film. We will give the bank to pro receivers with blown out knees but we shy away from a rookie with a minor foot operation?? Wow.
^^^^^^
THANK YOU!
Someone else in here is thinking straight for once!
March 13th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Darkknight
Who do you want at 7 then? I just look at that 31st in run D, and it makes me cringe. I think that NEEDS to be addressed. I have been waiting for 3 years for Sands to wake the Fck up, it aint happening. He needs to be replaced.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Cliff had Fred Biletnikoff on the other side, Brien, and Cliff actually could run routes.
Fred couldn’t run 5 flat if his life depended on it. He’s also in the Hall of Fame. You could look it up.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Al wont take Raji. Too short for his taste and we paid Sands and Kelly too much. Never will go down. Al trading would happen before that
March 13th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Brien the General Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Craptree didnt make jump ball catches. That is false
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Not many but he made catches in traffic and took them to the HOUSE for guess what TOUCHDOWNS!!!
March 13th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
T. Scott is a beast added 15 pounds of muscle so far off season look for him to start get 10+ sacks
March 13th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Teach i met Freddie B at Rickys buddy. But thank you for proving my point on Branch tho
March 13th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
As far as jump balls and Crabtree, Brien, I’m afraid you’re wrong again. Watch some film. There are lots of examples.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Voldemort Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Darkknight
Who do you want at 7 then? I just look at that 31st in run D, and it makes me cringe. I think that NEEDS to be addressed. I have been waiting for 3 years for Sands to wake the Fck up, it aint happening. He needs to be replaced.
^^^^^^^
Crabtree, A Smith, Orakpo and then look at taking a run stuffing 2 gap type DT’s in Round 2 like Ron Brace or Terrance Taylor IF there is no trade down.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Buck Private Brien you need to pay respect to the truth, or you’ll never get promoted.
And the truth is, Tim Brown coulda played defense because he sure made a lot of tackles (of himself).
March 13th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Raider4Life
Where did you hear that about T.Scott? Good for him if it’s true!
March 13th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
edward teach Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
As far as jump balls and Crabtree, Brien, I’m afraid you’re wrong again. Watch some film. There are lots of examples.
^^^^^
Yep!
March 13th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Better yet, look at Maclin’s videos and compare it to Teddy Ginn. When you get done you may say man Teddy Ginn looked better than Maclin in college. Once you get done with that look at Teddy Ginn’s stats with Miami it will tell you allot. Plus, Higgin’s already does what Maclin can do on our team.
When you get done looking at that video go back and look at Crabtree and Maclin play and tell me what makes Crabtree’s role in the offense anymore “trickier” than what Maclin does in his offense. As a matter of fact Maclin runs the “tricky reverse unlike Crabtree”.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
CUTLER’S HOUSE FOR SALE
Posted by Mike Florio on March 13, 2009, 5:28 p.m.
There’s been a dispute regarding whether Monday’s call between Broncos coach Josh McDaniels and quarterback Jay Cutler made a tenuous situation better or worse.
Our money was on “worse.”
And we’re preparing to double our bet.
Cutler’s house is reportedly for sale, according to ABC7 in Denver.
The $2 million home went on the market Thursday. And while it would be easy to say that it’s all a coincidence, we think that the surrounding circumstances make this something other than a coincidence.
We’re not surprised. Not a bit. The mere fact that the McDaniels-Cutler meeting occurred through a phone line told us all we need to know.
Put simply, neither party feels sufficiently compelled to salvage the relationship to meet in person, break bread, and hash out their differences.
So Cutler continues to force the issue. And unless the Broncos can obtain in return for Cutler’s contract a quarterback who can play nearly as well as Cutler, McDaniels could end up on the Cam Cameron head-coaching career path.
http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/
The offseason just got better
March 13th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Darkknight
What about the Center position? Right now we have Wade and Morris (old, and 3rd string guard/center) The second round has to go to C.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Mario Williams was a bust his first year because he was hurt then turned into one of the best DE’s in the league.
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Exactly! And which player is more valuable, the flashy Reggie Bush who is a modern day Dave Megget or Mario Williams, an elite pass rusher with the size to play the run
March 13th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
I never liked Bush and I’m a USC fan, he shared carries w/ Lendale for a reason. Fact is if Bush was so phenomenal he would have been on the field at all times. Wasn’t sold on Williams though so I can’t claim I knew on that one.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
As i said Bo, you dont have the power to demote me. Only oakglenn and bhp have that rite. Try again
March 13th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Damned work!!!! Messing with my comment count!
March 13th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Crabtree gets caught from behind a lot by college players, what do you think is going to happen in the NFL?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBm8xvLfr2w&feature=related
Proof is right here
March 13th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Guys are flat out lying about Craptree making jump ball catches! Lol reaching to any length to prove your point is awful
March 13th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Raider4Life Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
T. Scott is a beast added 15 pounds of muscle so far off season look for him to start get 10+ sacks
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If that is true, our D-Line just got a heck of a lot better!
March 13th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Munoz even knows better about Craptree
March 13th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
It kills me how tough guys get on the internet. They used to be Telephone Tough Guys now they’re Internet Thungs. For real guys who are you impressing? What is the point unless your ready to give out ya address.
I agree with those who think we should trade down. I’m all for Maualuga and Hakeem Nicks. Both are play makers. D wins championships and if we cant stop the run we wont go back to winning its plain and simple.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Personally, I don’t like what I see from videos on Crabtree…doesn’t out run anyone and gets most of his yards on WR screens.
But he has good hands and makes first downs, but is a possession receiver what you want that high in the draft? We sure could use one, but at that price? I’d rather get a tackle.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
My god kiff on espn lying again! Punk
March 13th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Dakota knows! He is such a LIBERAL
March 13th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Brien… when you met Freddy, did he run a 40 for you?
I told you my comment about Timmy was a trap, and you fell right into it. Schilens and Johnnie Lee are really fast guys, but unless there’s someone to keep the defense honest that can make plays, go over the middle and get first downs and be a threat in the red zone, the opponent just plays off them and negates the supposed speed advantage. Your saying that Crabtree won’t be selected because he’s not fast enough and is “only a possession receiver” doesn’t make any sense, and you proved my point with your reference to Branch and Biletnikoff via Tim Brown and the team’s inability to capitalize on his speed. That is exactly why we need Crabtree.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Voldemort Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Darkknight
What about the Center position? Right now we have Wade and Morris (old, and 3rd string guard/center) The second round has to go to C.
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Which is why the 1st round pick needs to go to the D-Line. Those on the Ron Brace, Ziggy Hood path have to realize that the Raiders will not be able to pick those guys. So Raji, who might not be available, is the only legit way to bolster the D-Line.
Terrance Taylor is a depth guy.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
*****Lets get it straight on Tim Brown*******
Unlike any other super star to play on this team Tim Brown always performed at the top of his game every year. He was the most consistant player on the filed. Tim moved the chains regardless of all of the crappy QBs Al rotated in year after year. He always made plays. Gannon, turned out to be more than anyone expected coming in from KC and he should still be thanking Tim Brown. Gannon ran the short yardage offense 5,10, 15 yards a pop. Tim would always be clutch on third down. It was very rare that Tim Brown ever dropped a pass like Jerry Rice he played way past his prime. Some of you Raider fans really have forgot what a commitment to excellance looks like. Tim’s job was over the middle drags, short post, down and outs. He is a real classic WR. Not a guy like Porter or Moss who wants to go blazing down the sideline and make one great catch to be on ESPN’s highlight film. Tim was blue collar and he did what ever it took to just win!!! If AL DAVIS does not like Tim Brown the football player than it explains our current record.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Crabtree’s highlight reel only has 1 jump ball on it, he has very little separation in most of it and in almost all of them he is being caught from behind. If you are getting caught from behind by college players, NFL players will have you covered everytime. His crossing routes wouldn’t work as well against NFL defenses, a Ray Lewis would have him knocked out and scared to come through again.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
#305 Munoz That great when i get depressed i watch last years donkey game and watch that little girl cutler cry…. makes me all warm inside
March 13th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Beanie Wells ran a 4.34 at his pro day…Al Davis just got a hard on!
March 13th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Crabtree gets caught from behind a lot by college players, what do you think is going to happen in the NFL?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBm8xvLfr2w&feature=related
Proof is right here
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What I saw was a lot of bad tackling and great angles to Crabtree by the D. I don’t want to draft him but that video proved nothing.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Craptree is not a dynamic playmaking WR at all. How do people miss that?
March 13th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
If T. Scott gains 15lbs that would put him at 270lbs.
Hopefully he kept his speed
March 13th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
The video showed he has no speed, if college players are able to take angles on him better believe NFL players will take even better ones.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Dakota Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Beanie Wells ran a 4.34 at his pro day…Al Davis just got a hard on!
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What was bad was the time that Malcolm Jenkins put up.
Good job by the Laker’s winning the West. Just need Bynum to come back to put the nail in the shamrock coffin.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Crabtree is well below the status of a Calvin Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald. Not even close.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
I like Heyward-Bey and Robiskie in 2nd round more than I like Crabtree or Maclin in the 1st. Robiskie has the pedigree and the work ethic that this team could use.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Teach no trap gets me. You had the nerve to tell me to look up Freddie B in the hall as if I didnt know. Dont try double talking me. It wont work
March 13th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
I think Maclin is way overrated for the #7 pick too.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Voldemort Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Darkknight
What about the Center position? Right now we have Wade and Morris (old, and 3rd string guard/center) The second round has to go to C.
^^^^If Crabtree is not there…the team should seriously try and TRADE DOWN. Then they can get Mack or Oher.
If no trade down occurs then I would like to see them pick Center Antoine Caldwell in Round 3.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
I was watching Utube and Bey looks better IMO than crabtree or maclin
March 13th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
41 touchdowns in two years, when everyone in the stadium knows who’s getting the ball, and you say he doesn’t make plays?
In your words, try again.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Munoz the so called jump ball by craptree he didnt get high where as the db got much higher but misjudged the ball
March 13th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
I told you guys yesterday Cutler might seek a trade to Tennessee or ask to be released. He put his house up for sale today.
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_11906852
March 13th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Dakota Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Crabtree is well below the status of a Calvin Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald. Not even close.
A notch below….I wouldn’t say well below.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
I like Heyward-Bey and Robiskie in 2nd round more than I like Crabtree or Maclin in the 1st. Robiskie has the pedigree and the work ethic that this team could use.
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Bey probably will not make it into the second round, but swap him for Nicks, and I agree 100%…but we are picking a C in round 2 anyhow, so it really doesn’t matter.
I think we can live with the receivers we have for one more season…fix the o-line first, then worry about those cry-baby, bitchy, whiny WRs.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
An O-Linemen that I think would be a great fit for the Raiders is Eben Britton.
Can play LT or RT and is a solid in pass pro and can run block.
He is already strong and can get stronger.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
It wan’t nerve talking about Freddie in the Hall, Brien, nor was it double-talk.
It was a joke.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Teach close but no cigar! 4 and 5 wr sets isnt like 2 wr sets. Much more difficult in pro style than spread. Good effort but not good enough.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
The more I watch Robiskie the more I like him, great body control. Goes up and gets the ball at the highest point of attack. The kid flat out gets separation before and after the catch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVk1Q7fiFAE&feature=related
March 13th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP)—Clancy Pendergast, the defensive coordinator for Arizona’s run to last season’s Super Bowl, was hired as defensive coordinator for the Kansas City Chiefs on Friday.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
What about Torry Holt?
March 13th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Brien, Crabtree isn’t the only thing these idiots are lying about.
March 13th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Better yet, look at Maclin’s videos and compare it to Teddy Ginn. When you get done you may say man Teddy Ginn looked better than Maclin in college. Once you get done with that look at Teddy Ginn’s stats with Miami it will tell you allot. Plus, Higgin’s already does what Maclin can do on our team.
When you get done looking at that video go back and look at Crabtree and Maclin play and tell me what makes Crabtree’s role in the offense anymore “trickier” than what Maclin does in his offense. As a matter of fact Maclin runs the tricky reverses and trick plays more than Crabtree does.
^^^^^Yep!
March 13th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Crabtree and Maclin played in Playstation offenses. In addition, Maclin almost always plays on the inside/slot.
The defenses were always spread out with 4 receiver sets and the QB in shotgun. Can they handle press coverage? How are they in running and selling routes?
Crabtree didn’t work out for any team and did no combine work? And we didn’t get a 40 time and it does matter. Is he 4.5 or 4.7?
Maclin is injury proned
I would take a Crabtree or Maclin in the 2nd half of the 1st round or if the Raiders were a team that had its O-Line and D-Line taken care of.
Calvin Johnson didn’t help the Lions win 1 game last year….LOL
March 13th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Brien I was merely pointing out that his official highlight film only had 1 jump ball in it and it should have been a pick I agree w/ you on that one.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
LESS THAN A month until the A’s home opener — in Oakland, presumably — and, golly, just sense that breathless anticipation from the A’s owners.
Cue up the overhead projector and dissect the terse statement A’s managing partner Lew Wolff issued Friday, in the wake of Oakland officials’ pleas Thursday to Major League Baseball to help retain the A’s.
Wolff’s opening line: “We have fully exhausted our time and resources over the years with the City of Oakland, dating back to previous A’s ownership.” Fully exhausted? OK, we catch the A’s drift. Oakland is dead to them.
If foam fingers came in the middle-finger variety, the A’s just hoisted one from atop the Oakland Coliseum.
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Ouch…Oakland is going to lose the A’s soon, and eventually the Raiders too…GOOOOO WARRIORS!
March 13th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Brien… I respect your opinions, I really do. We disagree about this. I have stuff that I think validates my points, and you have stuff that you think validates yours. Fair enough.
I guess the real point is that neither one of us will actually be making the selection come draft day. Unless one of us is really Al Davis, of course.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Hey Crabtree did what against OU? Sooners have pro talent and he was shut!
March 13th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Lil Poseur
You’re such a little kid. Why do you feel the need to pound your chest on the internet all day?
March 13th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
The more I watch Robiskie the more I like him, great body control. Goes up and gets the ball at the highest point of attack. The kid flat out gets separation before and after the catch.
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And he played in a colder weather environment and a more standard offense that ran the football.
Robiskie would be the much safer pick in my opinion and has the size and speed of Crabtree with the pedigree of a coaches son.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Some of you can continue to waste your time and energy trying to convince yourselves that Crabtree is not a top ten talent. All because he doesn’t run a 4.38 forty and would run more of a 4.48-4.50?? Lame…
A guy who is the back to back Fred Biletnikof Award Winner two years in row in the ncaa DOES NOT SUCK!
March 13th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Isay score as many points as we can,so with the defence that we might have we dont have to worry that much.SEE , if you hit them with 28 or 38pts we keep their fans and their stadium so quite that you can hear a pin drop!ITS simple “WE GO IN AND FINISH THEM OR WE GO OUT AND THEY FINISH US! ITS THAT SIMPLE RIGHT,AL.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
I think Crabtree is the most consistant Receiver and I don’t see him getting caught from behind on the video so you guys may want to check again. I do see him making allot of catches in traffic and I see great vision like a running back. He is not a burner but I don’t think we need aburner we need a guy that can make consistant catches (Crab – 90%)for JAM and adjustments to the ball. Crabtree can do that ASAP!
I like the other receivers I just think Crabtrees fight and vision make him better.
I was also impressed with Heyward-Bey big and fast right? Well when you look at his career stats not to impressive. Most of his big plays were not in traffic and he has inconsistant hands. He is a good project! We have enough projects at WR.
I like Nicks as my second best WR but he played with two other top WRs in his offense as well. His best game in the bowl game and they had two other legitimate pro receivers so they could not double team him.
Look at the Crabtree films and look at all the jerseys in his neigborhood and he stil picked up yardage after the catch.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Personally I am high on Kenny Britt….
March 13th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Fair enough Teach…..Dakota Athletics are going to Portland or SJ. Raiders never leaving the bay area
March 13th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Lil Poseur
Everytime I come in here, you’re here calling everybody idiots, claiming to be King of the World etc.. lol.
You know damned well, you’re a little punk.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
read # 192 linemen fans. draft a WR.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Everything looked good to me about Crabtree until he got the bum ankle, that he said was 90% before the Ole Miss game, then got stuck in the eye with a finger and pouted on the sidelines as his team got beat.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Crabtree
March 13th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
OK I live in Columbus Ohio I watched Robiskie for three years. He was a better player his sophmore year. Robiskie is a decent WR but he gets lost in games a lot and at times has trouble getting open. Other games you forget the guy is out on the field.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
If you want to study Crabtree film watch the Ole Miss game.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
408 A’s.. thats what Im talking Bout!!!!
March 13th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Kell I wont even insult you anymore lol. Obviously I struck a nerve or two. Al Davis Al Davis blah blah last 6 years Al Davis
March 13th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Crabtree is the only impact WR in the draft. we need some true hands..
March 13th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
2008 2007
Winner: Michael Crabtree , Texas Tech University Winner: Michael Crabtree , Texas Tech University
Finalists: Jeremy Maclin , Missouri
Dez Bryant , Oklahoma State Finalists: Jordy Nelson , Kansas State University
Mario Manningham , University of Michigan
2006 2005
Winner: Calvin Johnson , Georgia Institute of Technology Winner: Mike Hass , Oregon State
Finalists: Jerett Dillard , Rice University
Jeff Semardzija , University of Notre Dame Finalists: Dwayne JarrettUniversity of Southern Cal
Jeff SamardzijaUniversity of Notre Dame
2004 2003
Winner: Braylon Edwards , University of Michigan Winner: Larry Fitzgerald , University of Pittsburgh
Finalists: Dante Ridgeway , Ball State University
Taylor Stubblefield , Purdue University Finalists: Mike Williams , University of Southern Cal
Mark Clayton , University of Oklahoma
2002 2001
Winner: Charles Rogers , Michigan State University Winner: Josh Reed , Louisiana State University
Finalists: Shaun McDonald , Arizona State University
Nate Burleson , University of Nevada Finalists: Lee Evans , University of Wisconsin
Jabar Gaffney , University of Florida
2000 1999
Winner: Antonia Bryant , University of Pittsburgh Winner: Troy Walters , Stanford University
Finalists: Marvin “Snoop” Minnis , Florida State University
Freddie Mitchell II , University of California at L.A. Finalists: Trevor Insley , University of Nevada
Peter Warrick , Florida State University
1998 1997
Winner: Troy Edwards , Louisiana Tech University Winner: Randy Moss , Marshall University
Finalists: Tory Holt , North Carolina State University
Peter Warrick , Florida State University Finalists: Jacquez Green , University of Florida
Troy Edwards , Lousiana Tech University
1996 1995
Winner: Marcus Harris , University of Wyoming Winner: Terry Glenn , Ohio State University
Finalists: Reidel Anthony , University of Florida
Rae Carruth , University of Colorado Finalists: Keyshawn Johnson , University of Southern CA
Bobby Engram , Pennsylvania State University
1994
Winner: Bobby Engram , Pennsylvania State University
Finalists: Jack Jackson , University of Florida
Frand Sanders , Auburn University
Oh yah winning this award proves you are going to be a stud
March 13th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
408, Athletics will have offense but will the pitching handle?
March 13th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
40-yard-dash times are ridiculously overrated. Do you guys ever stop and think about what .1 or .2 seconds difference is spread out over 40 yards?
If you clap two times in a row, as fast as you possibly can, it probably takes from .1-.2 seconds between your first and second clap. Anyone see that Syracuse-UConn game last night? See that shot at the end of regulation? It took more than .1 to leave the guy’s hand after he already started to release it.
A guy with better instincts, ball skills and guts will more than make up the difference in 40-yard-dash speed. That’s why Zach Miller — who ran a 4.9 at the combine — was our leading receiver by far last year.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
CUTLER’S HOUSE FOR SALE
Posted by Mike Florio on March 13, 2009, 5:28 p.m.
There’s been a dispute regarding whether Monday’s call between Broncos coach Josh McDaniels and quarterback Jay Cutler made a tenuous situation better or worse.
Our money was on “worse.”
And we’re preparing to double our bet.
Cutler’s house is reportedly for sale, according to ABC7 in Denver.
The $2 million home went on the market Thursday. And while it would be easy to say that it’s all a coincidence, we think that the surrounding circumstances make this something other than a coincidence.
We’re not surprised. Not a bit. The mere fact that the McDaniels-Cutler meeting occurred through a phone line told us all we need to know.
Put simply, neither party feels sufficiently compelled to salvage the relationship to meet in person, break bread, and hash out their differences.
So Cutler continues to force the issue. And unless the Broncos can obtain in return for Cutler’s contract a quarterback who can play nearly as well as Cutler, McDaniels could end up on the Cam Cameron head-coaching career path.
……………………..
BRWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
March 13th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
DMunoz26 = troll…please nobody respond to him that’s the only way to get rid of these guys
March 13th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Why? They already have a bunch of young wide receivers from the last two drafts and are paying Walker Crabtree money. They will draft a lineman over Crabtree, if he falls that far.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Actually, I agree with some of your football takes, but all the childish nonsense is a bit annoying.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Kell shut your mouth scrub you contribute nothing to this site but nonsense.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Kell I wish I was King! Lol. Now oakglenn and bhp are the Kings. Im just a loyal subject. You should be as well.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Well, have a nice weekend everyone, I am outta here.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
# Brien the General Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
408, Athletics will have offense but will the pitching handle?
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has to Can’t have 2 bad years in a row…
March 13th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
I don’t see the Raiders getting anyone at 7 that we would want, I wouldn’t mind us dropping down to mid round and taking someone at better value. 7 is a bad spot for us to pick this year with so many teams around us needing virtually the same things.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
And DTs aren’t found in later rounds?
Look at some of the most recent Pro Bowlers at DT:
– Jay Ratliff: 7th round
– Pat Williams: Undrafted
– Kris Jenkins: 2nd round
– Shaun Rodgers: 2nd round
33% (2 out of 6) Pro Bowl DTs — Kevin Williams and Albert Haynesworth — were 1st rounders.
50% (4 of Pro Bowl WRs were 1st-round picks.
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Love that stat….there are more DT’s who wind up being BUSTS than WR’s who are taken in the top 10.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Orlando Pace..
March 13th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Nice take on Robiskie but I still would rather have him or Heyward-Bey in the 2nd than to get Crabtree at 7.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Aw Kell you are so wise. Just know you started with me in October. I never started with you.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Schilens sure did look fast the last part of the year at 225 pounds, and if you don’t think speed matters in the NFL Schilens could handle the weight gain because he ran a 4.38 forty. Lets see Crabtree pack on ten pounds when he runs a 4.51 forty at his present weight.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
I don’t see the Raiders getting anyone at 7 that we would want, I wouldn’t mind us dropping down to mid round and taking someone at better value. 7 is a bad spot for us to pick this year with so many teams around us needing virtually the same things.
^^^^^
I agree….the #1 option should be to TRADE DOWN…..especially if Crabtree is not there. They should even consider it if he is there!
March 13th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
I am really not blown away by any of the WR prospects this year, there is just not a Calvin Johnson or Fitzgerald on the board that flat out blows you away on film.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
I hope JR really works on his accuracy this year. He was getting the WRs and TE killed by trowing it over there head a lot. There were a number of plays that would have been big gains if the WR did not have to dive for the ball. That killed us all season.
Although he started to show some touch the last 2 games.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
I don’t care about that king crap, I just want to talk about the Raiders with someone who knows football and that’s the problem none of you cats do, especially DMunoz26. He don’t know you know what from Shninola. It’s depressing is what it is.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Draft Crabtree. Also go after Holt. By the way, Im on both the Raiders and Niners payroll, if you dont believe that do some research, its true.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
A lot of the draft decisions rely on what – if anything – we do in free agency. Personally I’d like to see us pick up at least 1 vet receiver like Amani Toomer or Tory Holt. I’d be confident going into the season with Shilens, Higgens, Holt, Walker and maybe even Shields depending on his development.
Then we can focus the draft on where it needs to be – offense and defensive lines.
Grab Monroe in the 1st if he’s available, Mack or Under in the 2nd and DE Paul Kruger if he’s there in the 3rd, or DT Marks from NC.
Although with all that said, I can’t say I’d be dissapointed if we grabbed Crabtree at 7.
Russell, McFadden, Crabtree, Bush, Miller and Higgens would be a devastating group to grow up together over the next decade or so.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Al wont take Raji or Craptree. He will reach or trade down. Only impact player is curry
March 13th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Kell you talk about people not knowing football but fact is you were spouting that some nonsense 2 years ago and you were getting blasted by Coach Sean, BHP, OakGlenn and Huff24 because you know the least amount of anything out of everyone on this board.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
I am still all about Jay Richards to MLB despite what you fools think.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Guys talking about Crabtree soesnt have height and leaping ability. I dont see that in the greats: Jerry Rice, Tim Brown or even Marvin Harrison.
They simply work hard, run good routes and most importantly catch the dam ball. They all dont need to be Moss to be effective HOF WRs.
Draft Cratree!
March 13th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Kell you talk about people not knowing football but fact is you were spouting that some nonsense 2 years ago and you were getting blasted by Coach Sean, BHP, OakGlenn and Huff24 because you know the least amount of anything out of everyone on this board.”
PREACH ON!
March 13th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
No way Monroe gets to us at 7, has anyone given thought on Al trading up a couple slots to grab him or Jason Smith?
March 13th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
why havent we checked out roy williams??
March 13th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Sports’ most damaging egos
By RealClearSports staff
Mar 11, 8:31 pm EDT
Buzz up!21 votes PrintRemember your high school’s best athlete? More importantly, remember the ego on that guy? Now, imagine him as a professional athlete. Obnoxious, right? To make it all the way to the top, one must make amazing sacrifices, spend countless hours practicing, and often grow his ego to epic proportions.
Glory-seeking coaches, crybaby football players, self-important baseball stars, and arrogant hoopsters are a dime-a-dozen in the me-first sports world. Just last week, in fact, the egos of Manny Ramirez and Terrell Owens were front-page news.
With all the money and media attention surrounding the world of sports, gigantic egos are easily cultivated, though some prove more harmful than others. Muhammad Ali had arguably the biggest personality of all time, but he was still a beloved champion. Shaquille O’Neal was in the news recently for his comments directed at Stan Van Gundy and others, but though he’s undeniably in love with himself, Shaq is able to maintain his reputation of being a great teammate. Not all egos are so benign, however – often they can destroy relationships, seasons, and even entire teams. There are many to choose from, but some stand out from the pack.
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Manny Ramirez is often one of the first players to arrive at the ballpark, routinely takes extra batting practice (he’s has been known to stand in a batting cage for hours at a time, hitting nothing but curve balls), and is considered by many to be one of the best, and hardest working, hitters in baseball. So, it would take quite a bit for him, and his ego, to end up on this list. Done and done.
In Pictures: Sports’ most-damaging egos
Consider that Manny tried to fight his teammate Kevin Youkilis in the dugout during a game, pushed the Red Sox’ traveling secretary to the ground when his request of 16-game tickets was not met, and asked to be taken out of games in an effort to force a trade. And that was just in a two-month span last season. Things were so bad at the end, rumors flew that veterans on the team, David Ortiz included, finally went to general manager Theo Epstein saying that Manny had to go.
Additionally, there were countless incidents chalked up to “Manny Being Manny.” His hijinks ranged from playing a game with a water-bottle in his back pocket; disappearing into Fenway’s Green Monster for a bathroom break; lying to the Red Sox on multiple occasions, including his rather dubious excuse that he missed the All-Star workouts in Seattle in 2001 because his grandmother had died; and even stopping a rehab game in Triple A Pawtucket when he lost a diamond earring. Just Manny Being Egotistical.
While Manny’s theatrics were often ignored, the same cannot be said for Terrell Owens, who seemingly spends his life under a magnifying glass. No one can question his work ethic or production. He’s a gym rat who has had nine 1,000-yard receiving seasons. But with that production comes a lot of baggage. T.O. wants the ball – and he wants it all the time.
And it’s that very ego – the one that causes him to spike the ball on the Dallas star, and carry a Sharpie in his sock to sign the ball after a score – that affects the entire franchise when it goes beyond the playing field.
He has questioned authority with each team he’s been a part of. In San Francisco, he blamed head coach Steve Mariucci for a loss against the Bears. In Philadelphia, he criticized Donovan McNabb and got into an altercation with teammate Hugh Douglas (leading to a suspension and eventually a deactivation for the rest of the 2005 season). In Dallas, he “accidentally overdosed” on painkillers, and in his next game back, a loss to the Eagles, he lashed out in the locker room and questioned why the Cowboys even signed him in the first place.
Manny and T.O., and their accompanying egos, are often a distraction, and their on-field dominance carries a high price tag in the form of their self-centered antics. But they are hardly the only prima donnas in the world of sports. From the baseball diamond to the football field to the owner’s booth, sports and damaging egos seemingly go hand-in-hand.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
The top five:
1. Al Davis: Slideshow
2. Terrell Owens: Slideshow
3. Stephon Marbury: Slideshow
4. Keyshawn Johnson: Slideshow
5. Barry Bonds: Slideshow
March 13th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Dakota Athletics. lol
Personally, I’d like to see them in Portland. Closer than where I live now. Not sure about a stadium, though. Oregon is a lot like California when it comes to spending money on that kind of thing. The Rose Garden (where the Blazers play) was under serious financial strain a few years ago, and the locals said “Too bad. Figure it out yourselves, we’re not giving you any money”. Paul Allen had to do some serious financial wrangling to get things straight again. The only stadium they have for baseball now is right downtown in NW Portland, and it’s not big enough for a major league franchise, and there’s not a whole lot of space to make it bigger. Even if they could, and with the incredible public transportation system they have in Multonomah County it would be a nightmare if they had major league crowds in an area that small.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Kell all you talk about is all and the folks you have a vendetta against. Hardly football
March 13th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
You talk like you been around DMunoz26 but you’re just a Johnny come lately so STFU and get out of here.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Kell for the last time there is nobody on our roster named Jay Richards, it is Jay Richardson. It’s a good thing you know so much more about football than the rest of us. what a tool
http://www.raiders.com/Team/PlayerBio.aspx?id=20888
Have someone read this to you
March 13th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Meant Al Davis
March 13th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Kell you are a moron for sure I was posting on these boards back when we were debating Russell or Quinn and you called us all racist because we though Quinn had a better work ethic.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
hell na A’s are comming to SJ….
March 13th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
#386… lol
March 13th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
I just watched the Chris Johnson interview with Greg Pappa again. Chris Johnson was going up against Crabtree in texas where he was training with Deon Sanders. I totally forgot about that. Wonder how that went.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
# 408RAIDER(GO SHARKS & FREE DIRTY) Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
why havent we checked out roy williams??
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because he isnt that good, the things he can, Alston already can, we have no need for his skills, we need a run stopping safety…
March 13th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Now back to people with an IQ larger than their shoe size… Do you guys think Davis packages Fargas or Bush to move up to grab Jason Smith or Eugene Monroe?
March 13th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
The Kell who keeps posting that Jay Richards crap ain’t me, it’s my troll. I thought everybody knew that by now. How stupid are you, anyway?
March 13th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
408, fuk Roy Williams. He is a bitch azz n*gga for real. I put that on mamas bruh. Punk forgot who he was!
March 13th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Yeah, sure you were here way back when Munoz. That’s why nobody remembers you. Not only are you stupid, you’re a liar too.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Apparently not nearly as stupid as you are considering you spend all your time on here making retarded comments on nothing having to do with football but claim that nobody on this board knows anything about football. It’s amazing how you are so knowledgeable but yet have not posted a single thing worth anything having to do with football.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
LMN….
sup bro… Im loven the drama with cun tler in donkey land…
March 13th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
CRABTREE might be Craptree.Whatever they do in their Universaty of CLONES is not what they do in the NFL.SO all this is CRAP!Get a good OFFENSE that can score quick and “LEAD THE NFL ” and we just ADD SOME SERIOUS BOYS TO THE PASS RUSH[3sec on top of QB]by the STOPWATCH and CHECK THE NEWSPAPER OKLAND #1-450 OP-POINTS SCORE.LIKE THE OLD DAYS and the rest is all CRAP RIGHT AL!!! Ps! This time BIG AL.WIIINZZZZZ.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
408…
yeah, he is by far the best QB at the moment in AFC west, and they already effed up their season.. dumbazzes =) LOL
March 13th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Brien
Im just sayin were kinda thin at safety.. I dont want Al to go Safety @ 7 but Im feeling like he will… What do you think we should then??/
March 13th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
408…
my link is a revival of the 90’s, Man I still like it, though its quite stupid.. “jeg ska ha mer strøm – I need more power” LOL
are you ready?
March 13th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Im still not sold on crabtree but if he is the pick I’ll support him just like I did with McFadden…
*sigh
March 13th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
You probably don’t remember Kell because back then I posted under my first name only… I posted under Danny
http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2006/11/30/the-economic-view/#comments
If it’s too much for you to handle The D in DMunoz26 stands for Danny
March 13th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Not true, buddy boy. Only the fools and wanna bes question my football knowledge. So which one are you?
March 13th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
yep…
408 408 408 408
March 13th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
408..
I will have a harder time accepting Crabtree than McFadden
March 13th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
man fukk a wide reciever !!! we are a really stupid franchise . da god damn lines pleeeezzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!! i wanna beat up sum raider fans
March 13th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Four Oh Eight!1
March 13th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
damn mod…
408 408 408 408 408
March 13th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Oh danny boy the pipes the pipes are calling….the idiot pipes, that is.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 13th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
dammit… 408, neither of us were ready =) LOL
oh well, i better go treat my hangovers… pancakes and ice =)
March 13th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Kell why don’t you actually post some knowledge and not just your redundant crap
March 13th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
i would kikk sum yall asses but i fight enuff ( other fans ) enuff.. like in nashville when we beat da titans couple years ago . my loud ass girlfriend pissed off plenty titan fans and a fat dude sprayed beer on her . well, i still have his teeth debris in my knuckles . btw . , nashville jail is really clean ,
March 13th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
LMN…
tetris that’s my isht son!!! I could party 2 that song in the bar tho…
March 13th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
408, we just gotta pray like bible thumpers
March 13th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
# doriangray Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
man fukk a wide reciever !!! we are a really stupid franchise . da god damn lines pleeeezzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!! i wanna beat up sum raider fans
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thats not very brotherly…
March 13th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
although ,, hmmm.. when`s da last time da raiders had a true possession reciever ? maybe crabtree is da next chris carter / herman moore ?
March 13th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Grab Crabtree and don’t look back!
Cut Walker after the draft and just go with young talented receivers.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Guys dmac was the right pick! We had a coach sabotage the year as bhp said early! Also Cable was an idiot running farglass so much.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
doriangray
hate to break it to ya but you cant kick any as$ on the net…
March 13th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Brien what do you think of the raiders trading fargas to move up for a monroe/smith or curry/orakpo?
March 13th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Anyhow, time to get high. Its the weekend. Im bout to make it happen
March 13th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Mcfragile has yet to impress me
March 13th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Listen, I’ll handle KrappyKell.
Old fool, I thought I told you yesterday to get more involved in activities suited for the senior lifestyle. We all know you’re just slightly smarter than an average billy goat, but add in senility and there are some real problems.
Posting all day on a football blog is not going to help you crap your pants less or utilize the few remaining years of your life any better.
I’m here for you, Krappy, but you’ve gotta take the first step yourself.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Thats not doriangray. thats dori angray, and angry is spelled wrong. this is probably some lezbo biatch, trying to get some strong arm in.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Munoz not sure. We know Al will trade up. Gotta get back to ya. Great question cuz Huggy gotta go. Im outro! Take care
March 13th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
you ain’t high already? we been toking it up since the early morning wake and bake. what happened to dori? she leave?
March 13th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
man , da first time i go to a raider game in oakland i might cry , its like taking a trip to mecca . maybe itll be da first time i dont get involved in a scrap . after that , i can die .. yeah .. oh wait . gotta have dat threesome 1st
March 13th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Mongo Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Thats not doriangray. thats dori angray, and angry is spelled wrong. this is probably some lezbo biatch, trying to get some strong arm in.
LMFAO
March 13th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Now back to people with an IQ larger than their shoe size… Do you guys think Davis packages Fargas or Bush to move up to grab Jason Smith or Eugene Monroe?
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I would have no problem trading Fargas to move up. But no way on Michael Bush. If Cable would get over his preference for Fargas, he would realize he has a 20+ carry back that can wear out defenses.
Bush/DMAC on the field healthy and more often will do more for JaMarcus Russell’s development than Michael Crabtree or anyone else in this draft.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
You guys want to laugh look back in the archives around beginning to mid 07 when Kell started posting here, this idiot was talking about how he had inside into what we were doing cause he could see the Raiders facilities from his house, this guy has been a joke since day 1 and still is.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Dmac needs to turn it up a bit. He was redshirted last year but still when he did play he didn’t look like a top guy.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
my name is dorian gray ,mongo . u low class , sardine juice drinking baffon. go to yur other favorite website – goatsex.net . jerk – off
March 13th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
S&B I like the Bush/DMAC combo as well but they like Fargas cause he busts his ass and doesn’t complain but his talent is lacking compared to Bush or DMAC.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
408RAIDER(GO SHARKS & FREE DIRTY) Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Mcfragile has yet to impress me
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I was hoping for Ellis or Dorsey last year. But Dorsey disappointed. There is always a bust risk no matter the position.
But I will say this about DMAC. If he’s at full strength he can be nasty. That K.C game was a glimpse.
Again, Bush/DMAC on the field consistently will equal more wins and help JaMarcus Russell with his throwing
March 13th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Until we see what boys we have all of this is CRAPTALK!We can get any man put him in any position and make him a NFL MAN!Coaches DEVELOPE PLAYERS NOT CRAPTALKS.If COACH CABLE told our boys “WE ARE TIRE OF LOSING AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE THIS GAME,THEN THERES A WILL.”So what were the results,we won some of the last games.And when SINGLETARY said,”I CAN’T TALK TO THEM,I CAN’T PLAY WITH THEM,I CAN’T WIN WITH THEM,AND I WANT PLAYERS THAT WANT TO PLAY.AND I WANT PLAYERS THAT WAN’T TO WIN!” SO TRUE.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
darren mcfadden is extremely fast . the team needs to run screens for a change , and backs like dmac run better with counter plays and sweeps
March 13th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Shut up danny. Why don’t you try trading Fargas for a brain?
March 13th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
S&B I like the Bush/DMAC combo as well but they like Fargas cause he busts his ass and doesn’t complain but his talent is lacking compared to Bush or DMAC.
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True, but Fargas has to do more than just bust his a$$. He needs to learn how to catch the doggone ball. He has to improve his vision when running.
Look at how Bush ran against Tampa. He didn’t just run in a straight line, he waited for blocks to develop and was a very patient runner.
Fargas is a do-right guy. But do-right guys get cut everyday. At a minimum he needs to learn to catch. He is no threat out of the backfield.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
mike lombardi on nfl network has the raiders taking andre smith.he said he set next to al davis for 8 years and going wr at number 7 is not in his make-up.he said it`s o-line or d-line he knows the man.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
# doriangray Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
my name is dorian gray ,mongo . u low class , sardine juice drinking baffon. go to yur other favorite website – goatsex.net . jerk – off
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Dori, Its buffoon not baffon you baboon. You munch carpet don’t you? Your twat has a tat on it saying “insert strap on here” doesn’t it? You probably can’t type to fast cause you got one of your fingers in the dyke right?
March 13th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
dorian you’re alright, just playing with ya.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
michael bush/juggernaut is a keeper . but maybe they all are . hell , players get hurt . and wut bout signing chris mcalister 4 safety . and dre bly 4 starting corner ?
March 13th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
blackdeath29 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
mike lombardi on nfl network has the raiders taking andre smith.he said he set next to al davis for 8 years and going wr at number 7 is not in his make-up.he said it`s o-line or d-line he knows the man.
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I saw the same thing and I agree with him. He says O-Line or D-Line and was adamant about it. Good to hear!
Hopefully one of the following is available at 7
Curry, Raji, J. Smith, E. Monroe, B. Orakpo
Can we PLEASE get one of these players.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
aaand i live in memphis so im close to sec play . and ole miss o-tackle is a real baller
March 13th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Again Kell you have said what about football? Right shut your mouth and move on.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
dorian gray ?
March 13th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
I agree on Fargas I like his effort and how he runs hard but he runs hard and gets no where. Bush is just a beast, keeping him on the bench is a mistake although I did not like his attitude towards moving to FB when we needed help because of injuries.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
ssooo,, who saw the watchmen ? do u think the movie lived up to da hype? and did u get annoyed by the blue dudes junk too ?
March 13th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
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March 13th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
I hope they don’t draft Smith with the 7. The guy is out of shape, and that is a reflection of work ethic. When it comes to football anyway. Plus, eventhough he was able to do alright against college guys, in the NFL he would get rolled over, and be out of breath by the half. I would agree with the trade down idea and get Mack and a LT with our first two picks we would get from the trade. If there’s no worthy LT for a 7 overall that is…
March 13th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
andre smith: “it takes time to get back into shape after having a baby”…
March 13th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
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March 13th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
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March 13th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
S&B (BJ Raji / Tyson Jackson @ 7 because run d is 31st)
I wanted Lil Howie..
March 13th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
raidres did not appear at ohio states pro day.i know they where at oregon.to look at unger at center,but i bet they are also checking out safety patrick chong for the 3 or 4 round.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
I agree on Fargas I like his effort and how he runs hard but he runs hard and gets no where. Bush is just a beast, keeping him on the bench is a mistake although I did not like his attitude towards moving to FB when we needed help because of injuries.
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yeah, Bush’s attitude was weak. YOu do whatever you can for the team and move on. But he really should have been getting 20 carries a game all year. Pound him and force that extra man in the box and then throw jump balls to Schilens and hit JLH deep.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
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March 13th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
New post girls
March 13th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
who the F calls themselves boy???
March 13th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
We are going to take Malcolm Jenkins @ 7! BET!!
Malcolm Jenkins, FS, Ohio State
Malcolm Jenkins’ stock has fallen a bit. He ran a mediocre 40 (4.55) and his poor hips were exposed in the combine drills. Said Deion Sanders of Jenkins, “He’s killing himself.”
March 13th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Here’s what I see as the very best case scenario for the Raiders. First off, pick up a free agent left tackle! It doesn’t have to be Barnes, just get someone decent to bring depth and competition at the position. Also pick up Angelo Crowell from the Bills. Good, inexpensive player. In the draft, trade down with the Lions (this is optimistic AND fairly realistic, I think). They get our #7 so they can get their quarterback AND left tackle of the future. We get their #20 and #65 pick. We take Ziggy Hood at #20, Unger in the second round, Chris Clemons (SS) with our #65, a left tackle of Cable and Michalczik’s choosing at #71 (Kropog maybe?), Zach Follette (OLB) in the fourth, Philip Hunt (DE) in the 6th, and then do what it takes to get wherever we need to get (as long as it’s no earlier than the 6th) to get Brandon Tate (WR) if he’s still around. Maybe trade a 2010 6th rounder and our 7th rounder this year. Tate was having an amazing senior year before hurting his knee and missing the rest of the season. Sounds similar to Mike Bush and sounds like Al Davis. What do you think?
March 13th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
***News flash***
El Dirty just got man raped in his cell.
El Dirty just got thr dirty end of a big mongurl d!ck.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
I agree slamming Bush into a defense 20+ times is going to do nothing negative for our offense, he will wear down teams. I wouldn’t mind seeing him and DMAC in a pro set formation with both on the field at the same time. Bush’s power and DMAC’s speed you wouldn’t know where it was going. They ran DMAC up the middle way too much last year, that is not his strong point.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
an ex jail house fruit
March 13th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
408RAIDER(GO SHARKS & FREE DIRTY) Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
who the F calls themselves boy???
That be Cali Boy…you want i should rip a good one and throw a blanket over his head? It would be really easy since we’re in bed together right now.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Jerry, if youre reading down this far, thanks you for the great reporting. Of all of the blogs/articles I read, you are the best and most insightful reporter of them all, for any team. While I dont agree with you all the time, youre consistent and I like that. Thanks again, you have a great following.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Jenkins at 7 is a blown pick, for those needing an example see M Huff
March 13th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
uhh lecler fan . yur draft sukks .
March 13th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
BTW, I see that private brien was here playing the race card again. When I get together with him I’m gonna eat some licorice before I rip one. Then he really will be black.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Troll Fart Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
408RAIDER(GO SHARKS & FREE DIRTY) Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
who the F calls themselves boy???
That be Cali Boy…you want i should rip a good one and throw a blanket over his head? It would be really easy since we’re in bed together right now.
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Why are you so Oosessed with farts?
March 13th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Jenkins at 7 is a blown pick, for those needing an example see M Huff
Yep, but it did not stop big Al now did it? And it won’t stop him now.
Jenkins @7
March 13th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Cali Boy that’s all I live for is to fart on little Cali Boys ♥
March 13th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
I can’t wait for buttholepriest to come onboard later tonight. I’m going to fart him into never ever land
March 13th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
LOL. You guys are getting taken. There is no intelligent discussion on the Raiders here. Jerry’s just putting this comments section out as dog food for you losers, to jack up the web hits here ,and you’re all falling for it. I don’t know how you guys can’t see it. Oh, you’re Raider fans. Duh. Rarely do you guys ever take a realistic view at things.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Beware though. buttholeprick is a pedophile so little Cali Boys need to make sure they’re not around when he comes onboard
March 13th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Chock up a web hit for It’s sad, really…
March 13th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
blackdeath29 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
raidres did not appear at ohio states pro day.i know they where at oregon.to look at unger at center,but i bet they are also checking out safety patrick chong for the 3 or 4 round.
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Thank goodness. Hopefully that means that Davis didn’t want a closer look at Malcolm Jenkins.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Hey, I have a question for you die hards. What moves has Al Davis made in upper management to address our 6 year skid?
March 13th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
I agree slamming Bush into a defense 20+ times is going to do nothing negative for our offense, he will wear down teams. I wouldn’t mind seeing him and DMAC in a pro set formation with both on the field at the same time. Bush’s power and DMAC’s speed you wouldn’t know where it was going. They ran DMAC up the middle way too much last year, that is not his strong point.
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Plus you could send either or both out on screens or routes.
It could get interesting if Cable is on his game
March 13th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
481 easy
Bad coaching? Check.
Bad drafts? Check.
Bad handling of all personnel (coaches/players/front office)? Check.
Very Bad free agent pickups? Check.
Fostering a “I don’t care” attitude? Check.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
yo troll how’d ya make that demon smiley???
March 13th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Isn’t this how you build a winner?
Let’s take a small peek into recent history, shall we? Since the return to Oakland, the Raiders have compiled a 92-139 record. Take out the four years Jon Gruden was leading the way, and they are a dismal 54-113 since returning to their roots, not to mention being 24-72 over the last six seasons!!!
The TRUTH hurts!!
March 13th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Jerry Mac…
Good for you, spending time w/ your son. Sounds like you are getting out of town, for the week-end. Maybe you can have your pal Corkran, fill in and give us a FIX or two while your out….
…..Oh, that idea didn’t work out so good last time, did it.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
We need a O-line we can be proud of!
Like Wiz, OO, Lawrence, Mosebar, Gallery, Dalby, Upshaw, Shell,ect………
March 13th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
LOL, Raccoon.
But the question stands. I want to hear from you die hards, talking x’s and o’s. What moves has Al Davis made in upper management to address the Raiders’ 6 year skid? Surely, an owner who completes his 6th straight season of 11 losses or more makes a move in upper management, one would have to assume. So, what moves did Al make?
March 13th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Did some one say purple?? Just got done doing a 4:20 session. Damn!!!!!0If you don’t cough, …..
March 13th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Raider O, what moves has Al Davis made, in UPPER MANAGEMENT, to address our 6 year skid?
March 13th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
blackdeath29 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
raidres did not appear at ohio states pro day.i know they where at oregon.to look at unger at center,but i bet they are also checking out safety patrick chong for the 3 or 4 round.
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Chung would be a good pick in Round 4 or 5….if they get a 5th rounder.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
I hope Cutler damands a trade. LOL. Nothing would please me more. That would totaly wreck their season, probably wreck a few seasons for them LOL.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Tgif, and I pray death upon you all, you are all worthless mother f*ckers for sure, die please die.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Oh contraire… Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
LOL, Raccoon.
But the question stands. I want to hear from you die hards, talking x’s and o’s. What moves has Al Davis made in upper management to address the Raiders’ 6 year skid? Surely, an owner who completes his 6th straight season of 11 losses or more makes a move in upper management, one would have to assume. So, what moves did Al make?
^^^^^^^ 0! Did the old man even change the scouting department around?
March 13th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Oh contraire… Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
LOL, Raccoon.
But the question stands. I want to hear from you die hards, talking x’s and o’s. What moves has Al Davis made in upper management to address the Raiders’ 6 year skid? Surely, an owner who completes his 6th straight season of 11 losses or more makes a move in upper management, one would have to assume. So, what moves did Al make?
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Al Davis is the only “upper” management. Nothing has changed!
March 13th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
So then, Raccoon, it begs the question. Why are we sitting here talking x’s and o’s, players, draft picks, when this team is still being managed by the same guy who brought us 6 straight years of losing? Seems like a waste of time, to me. Jerry should start reporting on Al’s poor management. Start a movement to get Al to retire. And people in here should discuss that, too. Every day Al is running this team is one day longer we have to wait before we start to build an actual, competitive NFL football team.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
He Fired Jon, he fired Wolf, he fired, Mike L, he fired Allen, he hired Cable
March 13th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Dirty Raccon suffers from small dik syndrome, lol…lmao…sorry DR, youre busted!!…lol.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Al is the Owner/GM of the raiders, and he doesn’t think anyone can do a better job than he has. The man did a lot for the NFL and the Raiders. Remember with Al it’s always a gamble. He has his own ideas, and most are unique to say the least. Now some of his ideas work and when they do the results are great, but when they don’t you end up with 6 loosing seasons. Al is the Father of the passing game, vertical, short, and the westcoast offense. Before Al this was a run and deffend the run league, and look at it now. The Cards and their vertical attack, every person thought Al was crazy to be more interested in passing than rushing. Look at the NFL now, and whst it would have been without Al.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
How some mock drafts see the Raiders using the No. 7 pick:
Todd McShay, ESPN: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Mel Kiper Jr., ESPN: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Jamie Dukes, NFL Network: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Charles Davis, NFL Network: WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech
Clark Judge, CBSsports.com: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Pete Prisco, CBSsports.com: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Rob Rang, NFLdraftscout.com: OT Michael Oher, Mississippi
Chad Reuter, NFLdraftscout.com: WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech
NFLdraftdog.com: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Pat Kirwan, NFL Network: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Russ Lande, The Sporting News: WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech
Don Banks, CNN-SI: DT B.J. Raji, Boston College
Jim Trotter, CNN-SI: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Wes Bunting, National Football Post: WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech
Sam Farmer, Los Angeles Times: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
KFFL: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
NFLdrafttscource.com: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Walterfootball.com: DT B.J. Raji, Boston College
Steve Silverman, NBCsports.com: LB Ray Maualuga, USC
Chris Steuber, Scout.com: WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech
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This is just upsetting…..I know all these clowns think the old man is all about speed…..but if that is true….why wouldn’t the old man draft Heyward-Bey who is bigger, stronger and faster than Maclin??
Picking Maclin ahead of Crabtree would be one of the worst draft mistakes the old man has ever done!
March 13th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
There is always a chance we win some games and make it interesting.
As fans we hope he can bring us to where he once did. For all of the good times and winning we have had with Mr. Davis at the wheel, I am very greatful, and will never turn my back on him, nor ever “revolt”.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
http://www.priest.com/
March 13th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Mike Taylor???
March 13th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Crabtree, Maclin, or an OT, I really feel that we can’t go wrong where we are picking.
I will say this about Maclin, he has INCREDIBLE football speed. He looks 10 steps faster than everyone else out there. Granted that was in college, but quickness does carry over to the pros, especially lateral quickness.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
That’s touching, Raider Racoon. I will “revolt”, however. Got a problem with it?
Raider O, so, was there an answer to my question anywhere in that serenade to Al Davis?
March 13th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
I know I didn’t answer your question directly, but those were my thoughts.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Mike Taylor Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Dirty Raccon suffers from small dik syndrome, lol…lmao…sorry DR, youre busted!!…lol.
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Busted for what troll?
March 13th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Sign Holt..would stabilize the young receivers and show them what it takes to be succesfful in the NFL. Then sign Pace for two years, (1 guaranteed). 1st round pick…D line…the other picks…O Line. Need a foundation for this team, and it has to be the lines. Need protection for JRuss and HAVE to be able to stop the run. If the Silver and Black can’t do both..forget about seeing the playoffs for years….
March 13th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Raider O, why can’t you just stand on your feet and answer, “Al has made no changes at all in upper management”. Why did it take you a paragraph, and you still never actually answered? Wow. Being full of s’t and even trying to lie to yourself is hard work, isn’t it?
March 13th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Raider O, I’m aware you didn’t answer my question directly. I’m mocking the fact that you didn’t, and why you didn’t. You didn’t because you know it’s a downright shame that such a poor team has made no changes in management. But your inner Davis worshiper had to squirm your way out of the question.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
I did bro 499, but I don’t think you like my answer! lol
March 13th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
You guys realize how stupid you sound when you say, “Al made no changes, and I think that’s a great choice!”. You know you don’t believe that. So you just can’t say it. That’s where all of this b.s. spin comes from. I’ve got you morons clocked. Clocked!
March 13th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
DR,…you have been b-u-s-t-e-d!!!!! lmao!!!
March 13th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Raider O, of course I didn’t like your answer. It wasn’t an answer to my question. It was off topic. My god you’re an idiot.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Al Davis is the MAN behind all of the Raider mystec.
Al Davis is the reason MANY of football fans are fans at all.
If this team did not have Al, what would our identity
be?
Could you realy imagin the RAIDERS without AL DAVIS?
March 13th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
If the old man plans on taking Maclin ahead of Crabtree or just picking Maclin if Crabtree is hot there……then the old man should TRADE DOWN and look to pick Heyward-Bey instead if he is hell bent on taking a WR that in the grand scheme of things is barely faster than Crabtree.
March 13th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Raider fans are fundamentally the dumbest sports fans in the world. I challenge you guys to name a dumber group of sports fans than the Al Davis loyals?
March 13th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Sorry DR,..had to,..you been exposed boy!!!! lmao!!!
March 13th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Oh contraire… Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Raider O, I’m aware you didn’t answer my question directly. I’m mocking the fact that you didn’t, and why you didn’t. You didn’t because you know it’s a downright shame that such a poor team has made no changes in management. But your inner Davis worshiper had to squirm your way out of the question.
This is sad, but I am with O, I will support Al til we both die!
March 13th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Why lie, I do like Al and give him credit all the time, for the hood and the bad. Now before I start demanding fir a new GM, I would have to remember that we where a PO , and SB team 6 years ago, and that lasted for 3 or 4 years. That team was OLD and takes time to rebuild. That’s my opinion.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
DarthPirate Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Crabtree, Maclin, or an OT, I really feel that we can’t go wrong where we are picking.
I will say this about Maclin, he has INCREDIBLE football speed. He looks 10 steps faster than everyone else out there. Granted that was in college, but quickness does carry over to the pros, especially lateral quickness.
^^^^^Yeah but what about pure WR skills, concentration, strength, hands, toughness, body control when being able to adjust to the football…having the ability to get open no matter what. Those are the WR skills that are tough to teach.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Dirty Raccoon, Al Davis can not manage the team forever. At some point, someone will have to take over. So, that being considered, why shouldn’t he consider retiring now, now that’s it’s obvious the game has passed him by? He’s going to leave one day, eventually. Since he can’t build a team anymore, the sooner he leaves, the better. We’re not talking about the “mystique”. There is no mystique anymore, anyway. Free agency, moron. Teams don’t stay together for more than a few years. The Raiders are the mercy of their ability to build a modern day football team. Nobody’s afraid to come into Oakland anymore. Mystique? You have to be nuts. It’s obvious I’m talking to a bunch of insane retards right now.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Mike Taylor Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Sorry DR,..had to,..you been exposed boy!!!! lmao!!!
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Can you explain this a little more?
March 13th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
TRADE DOWN !!!! No need to take a gamble on high priced over hyped draftees that have yet to prove their worth. take Mack and another need pick and roll with it.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
517,..only dumber people are non raider fans hangin in a raider blog!!!,..that would be you loser OC!!!!
March 13th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
LOL. Raider O just said it takes 6 years to rebuild. Yeh, it does take Al Davis 6 years, and then some…
March 13th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
If you don’t like my answer, why not ignore it? Do you have to insult me?!? You asked me a question and I answered it to the best of my abillity. Show some class.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Does it ever sink in with you guys just how dumb you really are? Why sacrifice so much dignity just to be faithful to some 80 year old, rotten person who would treat you like crap if he ever met you? Davis loyalists are sadder than battered women who keep going back to their abusers. Same mindset.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Free agency, moron
It’s obvious I’m talking to a bunch of insane retards right now.
Come on now we don’t have to act like Raider fans just because we are.
522 Oh,
I agree this will happen sooner or later, I am all for it when it does. But that choice is 100% Mr. Davis’.
When he makes it I will tip my hat to a man who has givin all he could to this team, and to the game.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Raider O, I’m not insulting you, per se. Just your moronic points. You said that it takes 6 years for teams to rebuild. They’re your words, idiot. Don’t say stupid things if you don’t want to get laughed at.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
you guys are too fuqquin stupid to talk to. Goodbye.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Raider O Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
If you don’t like my answer, why not ignore it? Do you have to insult me?!? You asked me a question and I answered it to the best of my abillity. Show some class.
RIGHT ON O!!! Give this turkey the boot, ya know what just ignore him/it, he will go away.
You and I gave him an answer, he did not like it, he was looking for someone to bash Al with, and did not find any takers. Too bad for him!
March 13th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Like I explained before. The reason it has been a long proccess, that Al thought he could just add to, or fix that SB team by adding Kollins and Moss, so we didn’t start rebuilding till 04. IMO.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Raider O, and 4Eva yall are ok man!
March 13th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Agreed Raccoon.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
You too bro.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Everyone make a mistake now and then, unfortunatly when you are a NFL GM it takes a few years to correct them. We morgataged our souls during our run in the early 2000’s, then we paid for it the last few years. Now it is time to kick a$$ again!
March 13th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Raider on brother, Raider on!!
March 13th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
You Raider Kool Aid drinkers are such morons. Go find the letter sent by Al Davis to the University of Tennesee(GOOGLE it) if you want to see how much of a senile old fool Al Davis is. He and all the garbage he pulls are an embarassment to Raider fans everywhere.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Say, Raider O, let’s go get a beer.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Hey, let’s do it. Where should we have the beer at?
March 13th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Well, I dunno. Motel 6?
March 13th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Ooooh. You gonna show me why they call you dirty raccoon?
March 13th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
You bet Raider O. I’m going to make you say, “ooooooh”.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Be there in a half hour. I’ll wear my cowboy outfit. Oooh, I’m horny!
March 13th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
You just get over here, you little tramp. The Raccoon’s ready to eat. Owwwwwooooh!
March 13th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
That last post wasn’t mine, but it’s funny as hell. LMAO
March 13th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Brien the General Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
408, fuk Roy Williams. He is a bitch azz n*gga for real. I put that on mamas bruh. Punk forgot who he was!
brien I don’t think your a n*gger. Not really. You’re more liek Vanilla Ice.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
omg…if you didn’t think Al Davis was crazy by now….
http://www.cbssports.com/images/nfl/raiderskiffinletter.pdf
March 13th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Last few posts are not mine. Raccoon, and nation. Later guys.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
408RAIDER(GO SHARKS & FREE DIRTY) Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
yo troll how’d ya make that demon smiley???
Like this
March 13th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Birren must have been embarrassed as he drafted that. It’s embarrassing working for the Raiders. I’ll bet you people that leave the organization for a better gig feel like they’ve had shackles removed. They get their dignity back.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
crabtree
March 13th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
I don’t think Gholston is neccessarily a bust just however the fact that Al was so in love with him scares me into thinking Maclin is our guy. Course I don’t think he has the height Davis is looking for so maybe Maybin or Orakpo
March 13th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
THE BlTCH IS GOING TO BE IN TOWN THIS MONDAY TO GIVE HIS DEPOSITION, AND TO SUCK SOME DlCK. HE’S GOING TO BE SHACKIN’ UP WITH BARRY LAMAR BONDS CAUSE HE LIKES TO ROLL INTERRACIAL. THAT’S COOL. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. BUT YOU KNOW BONDS IS GOING TO BE ON TOP.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
http://www.cbssports.com/images/nfl/raiderskiffinletter.pdf
the letter that was sent to the University of Tennessee…
March 13th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Ha ha. Al’s going to have to pay Kiffin. How embarrassing.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
# Troll Fart Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
408RAIDER(GO SHARKS & FREE DIRTY) Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
yo troll how’d ya make that demon smiley???
Like this
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lol how guy..
March 13th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
March 13th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
yeah troll b1tch ya shoulda told me…
March 13th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
DT B.J. Raji, Boston College
All the way
March 13th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
408RAIDER(GO SHARKS & FREE DIRTY) Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
# Troll Fart Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
408RAIDER(GO SHARKS & FREE DIRTY) Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
yo troll how’d ya make that demon smiley???
Like this
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lol how guy..
A troll only has so many secrets and you want him to give them up
March 13th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Mike Taylor Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
517,..only dumber people are non raider fans hangin in a raider blog!!!,..that would be you loser OC!!!!
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Exactly!! LOL
March 13th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Colon (as in “:” ), word “evil”, then colon, 408.
Right click the exact spot of the image, then click “properties”. At the bottom, it says alternate text.
There’s your secret, ya troll fuq.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
The revenge of Oakglenn the contarian, I mean contrarian Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Colon (as in “:” ), word “evil”, then colon, 408.
Right click the exact spot of the image, then click “properties”. At the bottom, it says alternate text.
There’s your secret, ya troll fuq.
Crawl back big al’s greazy colon, contarianus. I was just messing with him and was going to tell him.
March 13th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
draft Crabtree
March 13th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
sign Pace, draft Crabtree
March 13th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
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March 13th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
BJ is too small for a NFL nose tackle. I hope they take a OT or a WR. I wonder if Pace could help mentor our younger linmen?? Anyone herd where he’s going?
March 13th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
“BJ is too small for a NFL nose tackle.”
People said Ray Lewis was too small to be an NFL MLB. The “too small” knock is one of the most common critisims of players who go on to greatness.
March 13th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
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March 13th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
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March 13th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
The priorities of the Raiders have to be “O” line first then the “D” line. After losing Grove the “D” line is currently much better than the “O” line.
A dominate “O” line would not leave the Raiders in constant 3rd & long as the running game would elevate the troop of good RBs, It would not only ensure JRs health but give JR time to develope into a real NFL star at QB. An effective passing game would make the offense balanced which takes the heat off the defense. This would automatically elevate the game of the defense as the Raider’s opponents would have to throw the ball more to catch up rather than run the ball down our throat.
Everyone has penciled Henderson in at LT but it has been said many times that Henderson got plenty of help the last two games. Gallery is just OK at LG and needs help at times with his pass blocking. The center position is a big whole as Wade and Morris are less then adequate. Carisle is mediocre at RG and gets planted on his back by the bigger, stronger DTs. Green at RT is just a backup at best.
Therefore, OT is logically the highest priority. Andre Smith is potentially the best OT in the draft based on the game tape I have seen. His pro day workout was not stellar but his game tape is stellar and that is the measure of his worth. He came out early and is guilty of being immature which is expected at his young age. The pro day interview showed that he is intelligent as his speech was articulate and well thought out. He has quick feet and his strength and stamina will increase in the NFL regiment. He claims to be a man of God and not a party animal so in my mind he is a must at the 7th pick.
Get a center in the 2nd round and maybe a NT by the name of Brace in the 3rd.
But remember, when you are as bad as the Raiders have been, you have to take the mentality that you are building a house not renovating an apartment. Furthermore, when you build a house you do not buy a Ferrari when you need a bulldozer, so just say no to WR.
March 13th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
D line is better? Is 31st run defense in the league better? We can run better than we can stop the run right now.
March 14th, 2009 at 4:26 am
It’s all about an OT – Eugene Monroe if he’s there, Michael Oher if he’s not.. We can grab a WR in the second round…Brian Robiskie, i think he’d have as successful a career as both Maclin and Crabtree, maybe more successful due to the experience of his father (the falcons scout)..
March 14th, 2009 at 8:26 am
God save us from Uncle Al. Draft a WR in round one, lose at least 10 games this season.
March 14th, 2009 at 11:25 am
I was dead-set against drafting McFadden. However, this is a different story. For one, I didn’t think McFadden was a top-4 talent, and I do think Crabtree is a top-7 talent. (Maclin, maybe.) For another, I didn’t think we had a need at RB, and I felt RB is a position you can get instant impact, thus we should have waited on RB until we shored up our other positions. WR on the other hand is a positions where players take time to develop and last longer than RB, so I can see getting someone now to help JaMarcus down the road.
All that said, my overwhelming feeling is still that games are won in the trenches. I want to see us draft an OL or defensive front seven guy with that pick. But our long-term need at WR is great (and our short-term need at WR is so great that even a rookie WR could help), I could live with Crabtree.
March 14th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
TrevJo
With all due respect I dont undertsnad the logic: Offensve weapons are top draft picks yet you dont feel that way and would draft an o lineman in the top 5 ?
I think we can agree its all a crapshoot, a gamble.
The order of picks only really matters in dollars with the scale of being paid more as your draft higher also position you play.
Speed can be overated for example say Jerry Rice or Emmit Smith yet they are great.
However your heart can’t add height. Crabtree is a risky pick.I do see us adding two to three lineman in the draft.
March 14th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
well 49er takes the cake as far as dumbest sports fans! lol!
March 14th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
What we need to do now is build the offensive wall. If we sign Khalif Barnes and, or Orlando Pace, it will pretty much be solidified. We could definetly make sure of this by drafting the center from Cal or Max Unger from Oregon in the second round. If Crabtree is there at 7 we should take him. We need a position reciever badly, and Javon Walker can assume being the intermediate route route runner. I say this cuz i believe the raiders will bring back one of the vet recievers. Drew Carter or Ashley Lelie. Chaz Shillens and Arman Shields will battle it out for the 5th reciever spot unless we carry 6 this year which we should. Our running backs and fullbacks are set. We still need a true run blocking TE to allow Zack Miller to get more involved in the passing game. What ever happpened to Jason Dunn of the Kansas City Chiefs? Why not a Kyle Brady? If we build the fort all there is now is natural progression out of Jarmarcus Russell.
March 14th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Defensively, I would like a signing of a vet with leadership qualities. LE Vonnie Holliday is big and stout enough to man at LE while still adding pressure on the qb. I believe our defensive end spots are the worst part of our defense. I would definetly look into drafting Michael Johnson from Georgia Tech or Robert Ayers from Tennessee if they fall into the second round. Our linebacking depth is solidified now but we definetly need a starting caliber linebacker to go along with Morrison and Howard. Kevin Burnett signed with the Chargers so now I wouldn’t take a chance on any others in free agency, I would select a linebacker in the 3rd round maybe, and wait til next year to find that Patrick Willis type linebacker. If we sign CB Justin Miller back i would love our secondary and hope that John Bowie could atleast stay healthy and make the team this year. I think we’ll wind up signing a vet corner for added depth later. Safety is now a bit of a concern with Gibril Wilson gone but Roy Williams would make all that go away, and I think it would be the best fit out of the remaining safeties available plus i think Michael Huff would finally come into his own with Roy next to him. If not, I would sign Milloy or fragile Brown for 2yrs for a decent price.
Note: I see we havent’ re-signed CB/KR Justin Miller, this makes me believe that Macklin may be the pick right now and will be our main kick returner along with Branch. I think this is mistake if we go that route. I see him as another Johnnie lee higgins type that can’t take a hit and will always be injured.
March 14th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
If crabtree is not there at 7, i would rather trade down and draft Mauluga. If did select someone other than crabtree, it would be orakpo. i would love seeing him and burgess coming off the edges applying that needed pressure. Those stats of us finishing like 6th in sacks last year are just a mirage. It’s all about pressure and I didn’t see that constant pressure we need to get after these qb’s in our division. Cutler looked absolutely great everytime we played them. We have pro bowl qb’s in our division plus another potential one in Cassel now, we better get some real pass rushers to get to these guys or we will continue to get picked apart. They are not so good when u apply pressure on them so I hope we address that this year. Rey Mauluga would be a great start at helping stop the run, I would trade back up in the first round to get him if we selected Crabtree with the 7th overall pick, he’ll worth it.
March 15th, 2009 at 10:32 am
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March 15th, 2009 at 10:35 am
# DMunoz26 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Maclin has to be the pick, watch film of Crabtree he gets very little to no seperation against slow college corners. He wont be able to use his leaping ability on NFL corners like he does in college. Maclin gets great separation from corners and that is key for a NFL receiver. At 6′1-ish Crabtree simply will not out jump very athletic NFL corners. This is just from what I have seen on tape of him.
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Yup, thats exactly what they said about Larry Fitzgerald genius……..
March 15th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
i personally don’t think we need to draft a receiver.johnny lee higgins is more than capable of being a premier receiver, zack miller has proven to be a reliable receiver also, and if javon walker can come back at top form the raiders have a damn good trio. the main focus should be on beefin’ up the center of that defense linebackers,&safties. peace!!
March 15th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
please draft Rey Mauluga we need our own Troy Polamalu and Lofa Tatupu imagine “mauluga, morrison and howard” damn top ten in rush defense for sure!!!!!!!
March 15th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
please draft Rey Mauluga we need our own Troy Polamalu and Lofa Tatupu imagine “mauluga, morrison and howard” damn top ten in rush defense for sure!!!!!!!
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Yes, just what we need…. A LB that we have to take out on 3rd down with our 7th pick!!
March 17th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Jerry:
Excellent article. I’ve never seen anyone compile all of the mock drafts like this. Ultimately, it only matters what Al Davis thinks, but it is interesting nonetheless.
Also, I want to congratulate you on taking the time to be involved in your son’s life. When he gets older, he won’t remember that amazing article you wrote cause you stayed at the office late, but he will remember you coaching his little league team.
All of your readers owe you a lot for helping keep us informed with accurate information. We also owe you thanks for helping set an example of a good parent, which is ultimately more important. So, thank you and keep up the good work, all the way around.
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