Raiders re-sign Justin Miller, William Joseph
By Jon Becker
Monday, March 16th, 2009 at 1:26 pm in Oakland Raiders.
A couple of familiar faces unexpectedly showed up at Raiders headquarters in Alameda Monday morning for the first day of offseason workouts.
Although the team has not announced it, the Raiders have re-signed former Pro Bowl kick returner Justin Miller and defensive tackle William Joseph, which was reported by the San Francisco Chronicle.
With Johnnie Lee Higgins returning punts and Miller back deep for kickoffs, the Raiders had one of the more dangerous return tandems in the league in 2008.
Look for more details on the Miller and Joseph signings to come from Jerry McDonald.
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March 16th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
first agaIN
March 16th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
mack
March 16th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Mack is da pick
March 16th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
hurry up everyone
March 16th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
come on 408
March 16th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
We all know the only thing missing from the Raider’s Depth Chart that hasn’t been addressed by a FA signing or resigning of one of our own guys is a Starting Centre.
Alex Mack Centre – 7th overall pick…Al’s kind of pick.
March 16th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
your getting good 4eva…
March 16th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Al is best GM in the league this offseason. JLH can now focus on being a receiver. Trade w/ Philly pix 21 & 28 get Mack C, Brace NT, and Robiskie WR. Or get Raji at 7 Unger in round 2 and our receiving core can develop with a good running game, deep OL, and Walker/Schilens/JLH/Sheilds/Miller/DMAC. Or get Torry Hold, Raji @1, focus the rest of draft on depth and were really in business. GO RAIDERS!!!!
March 16th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Even da playas are excited with our young core and the promise of Cable
March 16th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Raiders re-sign Justin Miller, William Joseph
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Who wrote this?
I wish Yalls Trippin had a blog. I would be on it all day.
March 16th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
I learned it from you guys,I learned it from you =)
March 16th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Both nice to have back, Joseph does give us depth at DT and it is fun to have a KR that is a legitimate threat to bring it to the house. Things are shaping up perfectly for Oakland this offseason. I couldn’t be happier with the way things have gone. Last Post said we got Barnes for $1.2 million what a deal, great work on the contract Al. Way to target the top Talent Cable
March 16th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
I didnt think we should waste a roster spot on a KR.. but welcome back Miller
March 16th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
how do I get your job???
March 16th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
The Raiders have Barnes/Henderson at LT. The Rams got nobody since they released Orlando Pace. They have the chance to select the top tackle in the draft, like the Dolphins last year. No way do they take a skill player over that. Thats Al Davis/Matt Millen way of thinking. Steve Spagnuolo was famous for an aggressive defense. If they passed on an OT, it’d be for Curry, Orakpo or Raji. Carriker is a DE turned DT. Leonard Little is older than dirt. He already kicked Glover to the curb…
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I pretty much agree with you, but if Detroit takes Smith, you can’t count it out. They clearly have a need at WR, and Crabtree is all that, remember?
March 16th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
I could be a GREAT random tester,imo
March 16th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
it takes connections
March 16th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
LT – Barnes/Henderson
RG – Gallery
C – Morris
RG – Carlisle
RT – Pears/MCQuistan
That’s an upgrade over what we had going into last year at the OT position. If Morris is in the plan a C, then this could be a nice young nucleus.
March 16th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
LT – Henderson/Barnes
LG – Carlisle
C – Mack
RG – Gallery
RT – Barnes/Henderson
Believe it or not…that has 3 1st-rounders in it. That’s what O-lines are made of.
March 16th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Where did the Raiders get their smart pills from? I love what they’ve done this off season. Still need to address center and safety. I’m not used to the Raiders showing this kind of patience in signing players.
March 16th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Raiders 2009 starting OL
LT – Mario Henderson
LG – Robert Gallery
C – Alex Mack/Max Unger
RG – Paul McQuinstan
RT – Khalif Barnes
Only one piece of the puzzle left to get. This OL looks real solid, nice work Al and Tom. McFadden and Russel will be thanking you as well.
March 16th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
If Detroit takes Smith, the Rams will take Monroe. Unless they deecide to go defense with Aaron Curry. If Detroit takes Curry (stranger things have happened, then the Rams get their choice of tackles.
They’re not taking Crabtree.
March 16th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
So, once again, we have the best special teams squad in football, the best play by play radio personality, and, what else? Best ganj in the parking lot? Hey, all fine by me. But somehow we keep winding up at that 4 to 5 win mark at season’s end, and I don’t see what’s changed this time around, other than Als’ current puppet having a much higher cholesterol count.
March 16th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
RDT
Why would Gallery move to the Right side of the OL? With him and Barnes on the left I don’t think JR would have to worry about his blindside and could concentrate on gettting the ball on target. Not to mention the running room that DMC/Bush/Fargas would have over there.
March 16th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Jerry’s getting lazy(r) letting some random dude blog 4 him…
March 16th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Don’t forget the best mascot in sports, MR.
March 16th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
AD is consulting someone not named tom cable but he is in on the meetings.
March 16th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Since we always have good special teams, I have an idea. How about Mr. Davis retires from his de facto GM role and hires the most sought after GM that he can afford to be his successor, and then demotes himself to special teams coordinator? The only thing Al has ever really proven GM wise is that he can build special teams. Therefore, he’s basically proven that he’s, well…special. Know what I’m saying?
March 16th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Bring in DT Shaun Cody!
March 16th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Sure maddentroller. Go to Investco Field in Denver.
March 16th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
and why and the he!! is every team in the league feeding the @#%$&!* patriots with there great players for nothing in return?
March 16th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
There are some mocks out there that have Alex Mack going in the first round, and some that don’t. I have yet to see one that has both he and Unger going before we pick in the second round.
There is no need to take Mack at 7. Trade down, get extra picks, fine. Difficult, but not impossible. Taking Mack at 7 when we could get him or Unger later is foolish.
March 16th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
So, MR, what you’re basically saying is that Al Davis is not only old, but retarded as well?
March 16th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Hey, you said it, not me.
March 16th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
We’re not going to take Mack with the 7th pick. Get over it.
March 16th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Peppers for a 2nd round pick……yikes. That is one expensive pick. Hope the Cheatriots play him at OLB.
March 16th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Hey MaddenRaider, get my schwanz out of your mouth.
March 16th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
LOL, Teach …
You don’t even want to entertain Morris as the starting C?
March 16th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
I pretty much agree with you, but if Detroit takes Smith, you can’t count it out. They clearly have a need at WR, and Crabtree is all that, remember?
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Lions could trade for Cutler and draft Jason Smith. Then the Rams would take Eugene Monroe or go defense.
March 16th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Al Davis is petitioning to award the team with the best special team stats at season’s with an automatic playoff spot. Hey, he really wants to win one more before he goes.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
****************WoW Go Big Al******************
I have been a big critic of AL in the off season but I have to give him his props this year. He is picking average talent, at an average price that played key rolls on the team. Miller,was out there and no one wanted him so Al got him back to a familiar system for peanuts. The same thing with William Joseph he is back up.
The best move was signing Barnes at a minimum to a one year and I will tell you why. He is an underachiever who knows Al will take care of him if he plays his butt off. So now he will come in working like a wild man for a new contract next year. If he plays great!!! Great, give him the money. If he sucks let him go and you are not at a loss. Raider nation this was a great business move for the talent presented! This is the type of Biz deal i would expect from Al Davis. I think he knows he jumped the gun last year and learned from his errors.
“I have a lot to prove and I’m betting on myself by agreeing to a one-year contract. Mr. Davis has a track record of taking care of his own guys, and he promised me the same, if I take care of my business on and off the field.”
March 16th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Raiders have to at least split with the Chokers this season to have a remote shot at a playoff spot. Still not looking good for this season.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Alex Mack Centre – 7th overall pick…Al’s kind of pick.
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Now there is a realistic and knowledgeble Raider fan. Al loves to shock everybody. Jano at 17 prior. Bo Jackson. and I am not surprised at all if he goes Mack and I think he just might.
Hey Yall Trippin…you da man…you called it on Barnes and Miller. Looks like you are related to Mike Taylor afterall… Cheers bro.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
I’m telling you all, we are taking Maclin. Well, actually Al is taking Maclin. Even over Craptree if he’s around. Not my preference, but Al will do it. And if not him, then it’ll be Raji.
How about them Broncos eh? I think it’s funny how no one is calling the Broncos dysfunctional right now, because that’s exactly what they are at the moment. If the Raiders were going through this, you can bet they’d be getting burned over and over by the media. It’s looking like we will have a good chance at taking the division this year. All we gotta do is beat SD once and our chances will be that much better.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
I see a lot of good kickoff returns into opposing teams’ territory, still resulting in 3 and outs. Al Davis football, at its finest.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
oh yeah cun tler skipped the donkeys first team meeting… I love this…
March 16th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
What you guys forgot that Macklin didnt run very fast at the combine. Sorry I aint buying it.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
I thnk Heyward-Bey has a better chance of being drafted by us than crabtree and Macklin but I doubt any of them will get drafted by us.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Even in the wake of wide receiver Terrell Owens’ forced exit from Dallas courtesy of owner Jerry Jones, Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo still isn’t immune to criticism from his teammates.
In a recent interview with Joe Trahan of WFFA in Dallas, per Tim MacMahon of the Dallas Morning News, Cowboys cornerback Terence Newman took a shot at Romo where he said that the celebrity quarterback might be too caught up in the high-profile glare that goes with dating singer/actress Jessica Simpson.
When asked to respond to former Cowboys quarterback Troy Aikman’s comments that Romo “hasn’t fully grasped what being the Cowboys quarterback is all about,” Newman didn’t hold back.
“I think that with the situation Tony was in, I think that kind of maybe hurt him a little bit – being a first-year starter, then you have the limelight with his girlfriend and situations of that nature,” Newman said. “It’s going to take away from him being a quarterback, being a successful quarterback.
“He won 13 games and everything was perfect, but now after this past season, it was, ‘Is he doing enough for the team? Is he working hard enough? You know, he’s got this girlfriend, so …’ I think that once he inherited the starting quarterback job and his relationship got into the national media attention, I think that that was something that definitely hurt and took away from Tony Romo being a great quarterback.”
As MacMahon points out, Newman clearly wasn’t joking around.
And Newman, who has a lot of credibility in the locker room and in the media for his bluntly honest takes, might not be speaking only for himself at Valley Ranch.
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I wonder if they are going to cut the starting CB as well. And everyone else who has something to say about Romo and Jason Garrett.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
The Broncos have become unraveled. They’re starting from scratch, with no plan. Basically, like us. The Raiders and the Broncos will be scrapping it out for 3rd place in the AFC West for years to come, like Timmy and Jimmy on South Park.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Looks like that Josh McDaniels has a little Kiffin in him. He’s totally pissed of Jay Cutler.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
4eva…I have Gallery on the left – I moved Barnes to the right, until Henderson falters. Pears could move into either spot if one of the tackles fails also.
Centre is the only spot that we can draft a starter for and Tom Cable wants Mack way more than any 2nd choice Centre.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Maclin did not perform well at the combine and did not perform well in big games. That is two out of three strikes on the Al-ometer. BTW, Could someone go take Lame Kiffies dik out of maddenlosers azz?
March 16th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
408…Bowlen thinks he is Al Davis. Man, how they went from a potential playoff team to nada. Hello Chris Simms.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Teach
Right on, I have seen the posts suggesting we take Mack at 7 as well and these people obviously don’t understand everything that goes into the #7 pick. There is simply no way to avoid paying #7 money to the guy you end up selecting #7. Even if his position never comands that type of money. The Raiders would have to pay Mack starting LT type money if they selected him at #7. Very few draftniks would disagree with you if you made the argument that Mack is one of the best players in the draft. But they would be quick to point out that the finances of the game only make him a likely pick out side of the top 20. The best Centers don’t get $40 million dollar contracts so why give one to a rookie.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Jhill,
Yoo-hoo…..
Still havent got your answer.
I will ask again. Name a worse WR unit in the NFL than the current WRs on the Raiders roster. No stupid response or cute lil digs. Just name one.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
AlisGod, astute observation!
Bowlen is trying to be like Al Davis in dismantling his team with no real plan to make them competitive again. Glad you admitted that it’s Al’s footsteps Bowlen is walking in.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Alispieceofpoop,
Don’t waste your time. When you have the Davis worshipers in a corner, they start off with distractions, then they go to the guilt trips. All you can do is mock them.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Barnes was quoted as saying he would be alowed to compete for the starting LT position. That said, hopefully Cable will decide quickly who Barnes or Henderson gets moved to RT so they can get functioning quickly and move Green to the bench.
The Raiders have approached FA as if they don’t plan to draft OT. In fact the ONLY TWO FAs THEYVE SIGNED WERE OTs.
They looked at a couple Centers so obviously its a position of need.
They let DEs go and resigned J Walker – that points to drafting DE / DT at #7. Likely Center in rd 2.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Why would anyone take the time to even type the words Alex Mack at #7. The chances of him being the pick are ZERO.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
I love it when MR demands answers!
March 16th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
I like it. football talk.
I agree with all of you in taking Mack. Hell, if he’s as good as advertised, then why not. If he has all the football knowledge they say he does and is able to call the line plays at the line, then take the guy. We need our Oline to be the best, in order for Jamarcus to truly be able to use his talent. (Throwing the ball deep) He needs time for that, and protection. Plus it’ll also help our running game.
Though I wouldn’t be against selecting a Dlineman either. Though I know we won’t because of Al is confident that Kelly and Sands might be relevant this year. Plus they restructured, something that shows Al they are willing to help out the team.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Poop:
I will answer that for you. There isnt one. If Crabtree is there, he has to be the pick. If not, grab a lineman and take a reciever in RD 2.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
There you are …
I thought the ? was when was Chaz drafted?
Worse WR corps …uhhhh ….ummmm….uhhhhh….hmmmm
Rams
Jets
Dolphins
KC
SF
Jacksonville
off the top of my head.
Need more?
March 16th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Oh, I can just see the 3 and outs after Higgins returns punts to the opposing teams’ 40 yard line. Al Davis Raider football, as usual.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
4eva no one is excited by cable least of all the players, al is trying to prove he can win with a yes man like he did twice with flores for all you norv haters he has won 2more playoff games than marty did.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
MaddenRaider Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Alispieceofpoop,
Don’t waste your time. When you have the Davis worshipers in a corner, they start off with distractions, then they go to the guilt trips. All you can do is mock them.
MR, who do you think you’re fooling?
I think you need to work on developing your one dimensional characters.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
If Tree is gone and Mack is the guy they like, then move down, get an extra pick and pick him later. Absolutely do not take a C at 7.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Then the ensuing, field length drives our opponents complete for scores, running the ball on our doormat front 7. Al Davis Football, baby.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
JohnnyTyler Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Why would anyone take the time to even type the words Alex Mack at #7. The chances of him being the pick are ZERO.
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I have to agree with this.. When is the last time a center was taken in the top 10? Top 20 even? If we were going to take a center at 7 and pay him $40m, why not just sign Jason Brown whos already a proven center?
March 16th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
I can’t believe no one would read your screenplays.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
COW,
You’re right on. Orakpo, Raji, or Brown at #7 seems to be the way things will go. My hope is we go Raji. A trade down would be a dream come true as well. There is a hope Mack falls to us at #40, some teams might actually like Unger better. One of them will be there at #40 I am hoping Mack but Unger will be great as well.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Miller – GOOD
Joseph – Not so good.
If the team thinks it can stand pat with Kelly, Sands, Warren and Joseph at DT, we’re in trouble. Add Burgess at End and 3/4ths of your D-line is not good against the run. Mix in 2 below-average run stopping LBs and there isn’t a SS in the world who could keep this run D out of the cellar.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Tenn
Chi
Minn
NYG
Wash
March 16th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
post 65……. your repeating quotes.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
No More Fargas, Al has never won with a yes man. Agreed, flores is a yes man, but neither Flores or Al built those teams. Ron Wolf did.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
MR, who do you think you’re fooling?
I think you need to work on developing your one dimensional characters.
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LOL, exactly.
Multiple Personality Disorder to the n’th degree.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
It’s “you’re”, grim reaper. And, I didn’t repeat anything.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
I agree that Mack or Unger will bethere at #40.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Al Davis has never done anything, except build special teams. Al Davis is special…dee dee derrrrrr.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Compare the stats of the cores of those team and of the Raiders and you will see that statistically the Raiders ARE the worst. Sorry pal.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
MR knows grammar.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
If we were going to take a center at 7 and pay him $40m, why not just sign Jason Brown whos already a proven center?
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Now THAT is a good azz point! A lot better than the because no one else has ever done it argument.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Did William Joseph even play last season?
March 16th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
I think the ideal situation is to trade down. but when was the last time Al did that? And about drafting a C at #7, I have just one question, Who was the last team to draft a kicker in the first round? maybe even the only team?
Goes to show, the only thing predictable about Al, is that he is so unpredictable.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Sorry…..”you’re” gayyyy. is that better?
March 16th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Higgins returns it, he shakes a tackle, he has open field, HIGGINS, TO THE 40, TO THE 50, MID FIELD, STILL HAS ROOM TO RUN, AND HIGGINS IS FINALLY BROUGHT DOWN AT THE 35. But….we have a flag.
Al Davis football, baby..
March 16th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
MR, you go girl.
I can’t tell you how much I enjoy your pathetic existence. It never fails to put a smile on my face.
Tell em’ MR.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
maddenraider has gone from being pathetic, to being a pathetic joke, to being a pathetic joke found in a pile of turds
March 16th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
I don’t think the Raiders will stay @ 40 if Mack is there to start the 2nd round.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
maddenraider has the runs.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Compare the stats of the cores of those team and of the Raiders and you will see that statistically the Raiders ARE the worst. Sorry pal.
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Pal???? LOL!
You can do the compare, my man! Have at it. If you prefer the WRs on those teams over the ones we have, that’s fine with me. You’re entitled to your opinion, and I could give a rat’s azz what you think, to be honest. You’re not the GM so I don’t have to worry about your opinion of the our young guys.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
MR wants a cookie because his mother threw him out of her house when he was 23.
MR has never recovered.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
The draft is a GAMBLE. No one will know Mack better than the RAiders. If you know in your heart Mack has the potential to be a stud for many years to come, then take him. Would you rather take a chance on another player who you dont know as well and pay those millions?
Who cares about if other people wouldnt select him. If you like a guy you go get him. They say you dont draft a safety high because of value. Fck, do they still think that with Troy Palu and Ed Reed? Would you draft them #1 overall now? No some of yo would say not that high.
For example, they say Detroit shouldnt give up the #1 overall for Cutler…what so that they can take a gamble on Stafford or Even Curry?
The logic on the draft is stupid based on Kiper and espn’s hype of value system. It’s so stupid for people to think that a draft pick (with zero nfl exp) is more valuable than young proven probowler like Cutler.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
No way you really think that JLH, J Walker and Chaz are better than those WRs.
Berrian is better by himself.
Moss and Randle El are better
Burress is better by himself on one leg
Tennesee has 3 or 4 avg guys. Raiders have 1
Bears are bad, but not as bad as the Raiders
Bowe is better by himself
Dude, your dillusional.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
If we were to go after Mack, it would have to involve trading down. And we know how often that happens with the Raiders. Plus, some need to remember, we have no 2nd round pick this year. This years first pick is real important. I hope we pass on a WR. Russell needs to be able to get the ball out of his hands and on target in order for a receiver to do his job. His accuracy needs a lot of work.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Miller takes the short kick at the 30 and has room to run. He has a lane. MILLER, TO MID FIELD, TO THE 40, AND BROUGHT DOWN AT THE 33.
Russell goes back to pass, 7 step drop, incomplete.
Russell fakes hand off, back to pass, 7 step drop, incomplete.
Russell drops back 7 steps, looks, under pressure, tries to get away and sacked at the 43, and the Raiders will bring on Shane Lechler.
Al Davis football, baby. Feel the excitement…
March 16th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
dude is delusional. No one realizes it’s you maddentroller. You have everyone fooled. especially your doctors.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
another repeat. now look who’s stupid!
March 16th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Dont need to research, just go to any website with stats and as a group, the Raider recievers had the worst production in the NFL. Let me get this straight, just so I can see how retarted you really are. If Crabtree falls to 7 you advocate passing on him?
March 16th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Now that I think about it, how often does common sense factor in how the Raiders draft. How else can you explain Janikowski?
March 16th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
No way you really think that JLH, J Walker and Chaz are better than those WRs.
Berrian is better by himself.
Moss and Randle El are better
Burress is better by himself on one leg
Tennesee has 3 or 4 avg guys. Raiders have 1
Bears are bad, but not as bad as the Raiders
Bowe is better by himself
Dude, your dillusional.
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I will ask again. Name a worse WR unit in the NFL than the current WRs on the Raiders roster. No stupid response or cute lil digs. Just name one.
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I’m sorry, maybe it’s the language barrier again? I thought WR UNIT meant all the guys, not just the top WR in each group.
Once again, WTF are you talking about?
March 16th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
any suggestions on how to tighten my six pack in two weeks.???? goin to miami ..
March 16th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Great re-signing of Justin Miller. The guy is a stud. Maclin may not be the pick because Maclin is not just a speedy receiver but the best returner in this years draft. You would think Maclin would only be drafted so he could accomplish both. That leaves us needing a Center, WR, DE, LB and Safety the most. Crabtree takes the lead now in my opinion. If Crabtree gets drafted and Orakpo is available, we take him instead. Its getting interesting and some of these signings could be to simply throw off who they’re going to draft…Raiders style.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
No way were are taking Mack at #7. No way we trade down. No way we take Maclin. It’s going to be one of the offensive tackles, Crabtree, or Curry. Those are the only ones worth the #7.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
i think its ray finkle off his meds
March 16th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
98 LOL!!!
March 16th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
I advocate passing on Crabtree and Maclin. Russell’s completion percentage is around 54%. What good does any receiver do when your QB is running for his life or can’t hit the broad side of a barn?
March 16th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
bears recievers are worse , jets receivers are worse , tennesee has never had receivers / it seems , miami receivers are worse . production.? raider offense was sad,, but not chaz schillens or jlh `s fault . nor zach miller ..
March 16th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Buress is facing 3 years and was suspended last time I checked …
Randle El over JLH?
March 16th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
LOL. People who fork thousands of dollars over to Al Davis on a yearly basis are calling me stupid.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
JLH= 22 catches 366 yrds
Chaz= 15 and 255
WOW! Stellar. Look out for those two.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Doriangray – Run at least 2 miles everyday until then while doing crunches only twice a week at the most. Drink TONS of water and cut back on all the crap food. Eat healthy but more importantly, don’t eat too much of one thing in one setting. Eat small portions. =).
March 16th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Randle El had double the catches and damn near double the yards, so yeah, better than JLH.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
” i think THE PROFFESIONAL is the coolest movie ever , followed by FOUR ROOMS “
March 16th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
we are all stupid. you’re just stupider.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Not to get in between any of you two love birds, but let’s not forget that JLH and Chaz didn’t start until the final what, like 4-5 games?
March 16th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
VT Raider Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
If we were to go after Mack, it would have to involve trading down. And we know how often that happens with the Raiders. Plus, some need to remember, we have no 2nd round pick this year. This years first pick is real important.
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The Raiders DO have a 2nd round pick this year. They don’t have a 5th.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Saw a nice t shirt today at the Raider image. It says, “I’ve given tens of thousands of dollars to Al Davis and all I got was beat up in the parking lot, about 3 DUIs, and this lousy t shirt!”.
I picked one up for you, Grim Reaper.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
The Oakland Raiders’ 2009 Off-Season Workout Program officially got underway Monday under the direction of second-year Raiders strength and conditioning coach Brad Roll at the team’s Alameda, Calif., facility. The 2009 edition of The Silver and Black hit the weight room and the “patio” leading to the practice field for the first of many weight training and conditioning sessions.
The program not only serves to develop the players’ bodies and prepare them for the rigors of a challenging professional football campaign, it also helps teammates forge unbreakable bonds and cement the common goal of the organization.
“There is so much involvement before we get to Sunday,” Coach Roll recently told Raiders.com’s Jeanette Thompson. “[Last year] I think we did a good job on staying consistent with our strength training, our conditioning, our flexibility, working our core and trying to stay at a high strength level, a high conditioning level, with all of these components, it’s harder to break down the body.”
Raiders defensive end Jay Richardson is entering his third-year out of Ohio State. Richardson says, “It’s good to be back, good to see a lot of the old faces and teammates, good to see some of the coaches. It’s good to see some of my old teammates like Trevor Scott, the young phenom. I love this area, I love the Bay Area so its good to be back.”
“When the players realize that strength and conditioning is a top priority with Head Coach Tom Cable, that helps me. We’re tremendously excited about the new staff and Coach Cable and getting this thing to continue to roll like it did against Houston at home and against Tampa on the road,” Coach Roll added.
Second-year defensive end Trevor Scott, who chalked up 24 tackles and five quarterback sacks as a rookie out of the University of Buffalo last season says, “I just got in last night, but it feels good to be back and seeing all the guys. Working out went pretty good this morning. I think we’ll have a pretty good off-season for this upcoming season.”
LOOK AT J.RICHARDSON WHAT A TEAM PLAYER TO THINK THAT HIGHLY OF A PLAYER WHO PLAYS HIS SAME DE SPOT.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
MR, We aren’t calling you stupid.
We are calling you pathetic.
Don’t ever change.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
JHill,
You must be one of those clowns who think every player on the Raiders is destined for the HOF. One of those Al Davis ass kissin, silver n black kool aid drinkn, ignorant Raider fans that make Raider fans everywhere look bad.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Grim, there is nobody stupider than a person who gives money to Al Davis after what’s happened the past 6 years.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
THANKS NUMBER 24, IM GONNA KILL EM IN MIAMI , HOLD UP ,, 2 MILES . FUKK NO!! RANDLE EL ? DAT SLOW DUDE IS GOOD . BUT U GOTTA LOOK AT DA Q.B. – THE COACHING STAFF – AND THE COMPETITION MORON. LIKE UNIV OF MEMPHIS BASKETBALL TEAM IS ACTUALLY BETTER THAN DUKE. CUS THEIR RECORD IS BETTER? PLEASE
March 16th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
MR = Powerless guy,
I am calling you and Grim Reaper stupid, though. Extraordinarily stupid. Again, anyone who still buys season tickets from Al Davis, considering the last 6 years…
March 16th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
i’ll wear it too. i bet you will repaet it 5 more times in this blog also. remember! it only funny the 1st time you say it, not the 10th.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Why didnt they start? Oh yeah, they had big time ballers like Ron Curry and Ashlie Lelie in front of them. LOL!
March 16th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
CHAZ MAYBE BETTER THAN MANY RECIEVERS . WE DONT KNOW YET . OUR Q.B. IS NOT PEYTONM MANNING . HOPE WE DRAFT REY MAUALUGA
March 16th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
please tell us again how stupid i am for rooting for my team. your only at 5 times with 5 more to go.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Really pleased about Justin Miller. Great returner and decent CB cover.
Anybody know how much Joseph has been re-signed for?
I guess that means that Raji is off the radar. Gone before No7 or not seen as good value?
March 16th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Best thing about those few small words – William Joseph re-signed – is there is no longer mention of Raji every second post. WooHoo!
March 16th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Me repeating myself actually makes Al Davis and his loyal fans look stupid, not me. The Raiders having good special teams and lousy everything else is true. Raiders season ticket holders being stupid is true. Repeating it only sheds light on reality. It’s actually funny to people not the target of the joke. But I can see why you’d be offended, and would want me to stop repeating it…the truth hurts.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
HEY !1 RONALD CURRY IS A BALLER ! DAMN O – COORDIANATOR WAS A BUM . HE RUINED DA FALCONS AND US LAST YEAR
March 16th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Randle El STARTED 16 games and his QB had 150 more pass attempts.
Russell only threw the ball 360 times ALL YEAR, so to compare the two is pointless.
Even you are not stupid enough to think that Randle El would beat out JLH on any team doing anything. He scored as many times in 4 games as Randle El did all season.
This is comical stuff. Keep trying!
March 16th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
They didn’t start because of coaching decisions. But when they put them in, they did pretty good ya? Or will you disagree with that too… And don’t forget, Chaz was a rookie, and JLH was in his second year…
March 16th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
i’ll repeat this too then….you’re gayyy! only 8 more to go!
March 16th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
JHill,
You must be one of those clowns who think every player on the Raiders is destined for the HOF. One of those Al Davis ass kissin, silver n black kool aid drinkn, ignorant Raider fans that make Raider fans everywhere look bad.
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Yup that’s me!
March 16th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
OUR SITH LORD AL DAVIS WILL NOT BE DISRESPECTED BY YOU MERE MORTALS. COME TO THE DARK SIDE
March 16th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
If Chaz Shillens were cut tomorrow he would be lucky to be on a practice squad next year. Every team already has a guy like him sittn on the bench, where he should be. He wasnt a 7th rder for nothing.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
**Lets think about the draft here for a minute??????**
Why take Maclin at 7 if you just signed Miller to return kicks and he has already proven that he can do the job a long with JH?
March 16th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
you’re gayyy! thats three, who wants #4
March 16th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
MR, I know you can barely afford your apartment due to your failure as a screenwriter, but some of us are flush with cash and love to spend it on Sunday afternoons watching our beloved Raiders.
The best money I ever spent.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
master , i have ruined laney kiffin`s career at tenn. as u ordered. shall i break ladanian tomlinsons knees now?
March 16th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Don’t forget that last years 4th rounder Arman Shields should be in the picture for a starting spot this season.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
As raider fans we just can’t keep ourselves from wanting to draft a WR in the top 3 rounds. This is insane all I see on here are people either wanting Crabtree at 7 or trading down only to use a late 1st or early 2nd on a different WR (Heyward-Bey, Britt, Nicks or Robiskie).
WR is the only position other than QB or RB where we actually have depth and youth. If you pick a player in the top 3 rounds you typically want him to see the field that year. So can someone please explain to me who exactly you want to take touches from. Is it Mcfadden? Miller? Bush? Higgins? Schiliens? Walker? Shields? Fargas? Are these guys too old for you? or maybe they are not fast enough. Why stop at WR shoot if Sanchez is available lets grab him. I heard Beanie Wells could fall to the second round, wow what value, We would be stupid not to take him there.
This draft has to be about the Front 7 on D, and the OL. Sorry guys but we are full at the skill positions. I can’t belive I am seeing anyone posting anything other than outrage at the thought of wasting a top 100 pick on a WR. If someone could explain to me why this is even being considered I would love to hear it.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Jhill, Your an idiot. You are nothing more than a homer so there is no reason to even argue with anymore. For you to actually believe the Raiders have a good enough WR core means you are either on drugs or are just a complete and utter moron. I will say its option number 2.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
doesnt matter what round a player is drafted in . look at all da players that excel out of later rounds. and the media praises the patriots, giants, eagles, etc. for finding later round (gems) so dont chastise the raiders and the great, legendary, hall of famer, billionare, al davis for believing in young late studs………………..
March 16th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
as a fellow raider fan, our wide outs suck until proven otherwise. sorry jhill, just being down to earth.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
damn . i didnt know i was dat smart .. anyway . isnt priya rai the hottest porn actress in da biz?
March 16th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Joseph is just an extra body and part of Al’s continual way of trying to prove another reclamation project. Al loves other people’s 1st round trash…especially when he can make them produce here. Lincoln Kenedy and Ty Wheatly to name a few.
But no way is Joseph a replacment for not drafting Raji.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
#145 = mre proof that as a group Raider fans are the dumbest in all of sports.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
yaknow. if da depressed receiver would just retire. da raiders could throw dat money at plaxico burress. and da raiders should sign napolean kaufman
March 16th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
4evaRaider Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
how do I get your job???
Let me know if your comin to see me. I gotta call Onterrio Raymond Lloyd Smith and get that wizanator…
March 16th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Alisapieceofpoop Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Jhill, Your an idiot. You are nothing more than a homer so there is no reason to even argue with anymore. For you to actually believe the Raiders have a good enough WR core means you are either on drugs or are just a complete and utter moron. I will say its option number 2.
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But you keep talking to me, LOL! You must be a glutten for punishment!
When did I ever say our WR corps were good enough? I thought I said that (1)Crabtree won’t be available, (2)Maclin or any other WR is no better than what we already have in JLH, (3)Since we ALREADY have Walker, no need to bring in a guy like Jones or any other vet (4)Robiskie or any other 2nd rd pick makes no sense without seeing what guys we drafted LAST YEAR can do, (5)Let the young guys play and see what they have instead of drafting another PROSPECT, (6) And wasn’t I the leader of the sign TO bandwagon?
One of your alter egos must’ve been posting during that time.
Keep trying!
I’m going to step out and grab me some carne asada con arroz y frijoles y queso, with a side a guac …
Keep trying though, I’ll be right back!
March 16th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Alisapieceofpoop Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
If Chaz Shillens were cut tomorrow he would be lucky to be on a practice squad next year. Every team already has a guy like him sittn on the bench, where he should be. He wasnt a 7th rder for nothing.
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Dude, you’re annoying. STFU already scum bag. Just because a guy is a 7th rounder doesnt mean crap. Hello Terrel Davis? Hello Tom Brady. Hello Matt Cassell. The point is 1st round or 19th round doesnt mean shcyytt. It’s about getting on the field and produce. Sorry but to bag on JLH and schilens is stupid just as you are yourself. Those two showed more promise on our team than WR we’ve had in years. Now go fck yourself.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
later nation, and remember there are still 6 more times to call MR gayyy. because its funnier the 10th time.lol
March 16th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
# Ryan Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Raiders re-sign Justin Miller, William Joseph
By Sports
Who wrote this?
I wish Yalls Trippin had a blog. I would be on it all day.
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Agreed!
March 16th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
AIP..
dont be dissing my man Chaz…
March 16th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
MR, I know it must be difficult to be powerless, friendless, and overall inconsequential, but look on the bright side.
You make us all laugh on a daily basis, so your life does have purpose.
Keep em’ coming.
I for one would be devasted if you somehow developed some self esteem and ceased your campaign of idiocy.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
The #1 option for the old man and coach cable approaching this draft should be to work there way to get a good deal to TRADE DOWN!
That should be the #1 OPTION as of now…..
March 16th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Alisgod,
I just can’t believe that Al is going to pay $20m for a DT – after signing Kelly and Sands for mega-bucks last year.
I would love us to get Mack but he will be gone between No20 and No38. We need to trade up/down to get Mack or settle on Wood or Unger in the 2nd or Luigs in the 3rd.
Robiskie is a possible – depends on whether Al wants a field stretcher or a possession WR.
I still think we will go for an OT in the 1st – probably Andre Smith – and then pick up a WR in the 2nd – Juaquin Iglesias or Louis Murphy?
March 16th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Trading down would allow them to pick Mack where he should be taken and that is in the middle to late first round or they can trade down and target Rey Maualuga.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
# Say Dickwad Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 11:03 am
# Alisapieceofpoop Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Yoo hoo… JHill. Where are you?
So, in other words, your saying that the team with the worst recievers in the league should NOT draft one in rd 1. OK, got it.
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Al is not poop. You are. You had a “rookie” QB throwing to one rookie WR and one second year WR. In what universe are guys like this going to come into the NFL and light it up? What you want to see is improvement. They improved. Greatly. Now go lick Al’s azz.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Yalls Trippin is the KING.
All hail, Yalls Trippin!
March 16th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Looked through about a dozen mock drafts -
NOBODY has Unger gone at #40.
Mack is looking at between #25-#41 according to what I saw.
Instead of worrying about trading down, if we can trade up into the early 20s like Cleveland did to draft Quinn, we can land a DL guy and Mack. Otherwise, Unger seems a lock to be there.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
The Marshall Plan has had some time to evaluate the players on D. He must have seen something workable in the likes of Ricky, Alston and Joseph to bring ‘em back for his tenure.
Likewise, Jon Fassel must be happy to have core players like Alston, Condo, Miller and JLH to rely on.
Not every member of a team has to be a pro-bowler.
Remember the Cowgirls from two years ago? 25% of the NFCers in Hawaii were ‘girls. They did not even win a play-off game.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
I just wish Kiffin was still here.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Lets be smart,we all know theres still good or even better players on 2nd pick.SO, AL AND CABLE comeback for LEFTOVERS! Besides,we are looking for players that want to win! NO LOSERS.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
COW, who do you want at 7?
March 16th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
F*Kc the pundits and the experts and the bloggers and the talking heads and the draftniks and the “reach” proclaimers and all the so-called know-it-alls. Just draft whoever you damn well please when it is your turn.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
The Denver Broncos confirm that Jay Cutler has requested a trade,” team spokesman Jim Saccomano told The Associated Press on Monday.
LMAO….
March 16th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Coach on Wheels Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Looked through about a dozen mock drafts -
NOBODY has Unger gone at #40.
Mack is looking at between #25-#41 according to what I saw.
Instead of worrying about trading down, if we can trade up into the early 20s like Cleveland did to draft Quinn, we can land a DL guy and Mack. Otherwise, Unger seems a lock to be there.
NOW THATS ONE OF THE SMARTEST THINGS I`VE READ TODAY
March 16th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Coach,
The smart move may be to trade down in the 1st. If Detroit don’t get Cutler, they may take Jason Smith at No1 and then look to move up to No7 to get Sanchez. That could still give us the No20 (Maualuga, Laurinaitis, Britton, etc.) and the No33 (Mack, Harvin, Chung, Heywood-Bey) and the No39 (Unger, Britt, Sintim).
If we don’t want Andre Smith, Crabtree, Oher or Maclin – we have got to trade down.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Scottish,
I think we can both agree that by RAiders standard (not others but Raiders only) this offseason has been the most common sense that Crazy Al has ever displayed in the last 6 years.
I think regardless of his stupid moves last year. He has no choice but to rebuild both lines. Now we are missing a Center, a DT, and another receiver.
The good news is there are at least 3 serviceble Centers and a bunch of possessioin receivers. Honestly no one in this draft is a speed burner other than Bey and he has no production to show for.
That means he has to get Raji. For me, if not Raji then Mack or one of the OT’s. Not a big fan of chuckhead andre Smith though. Id’ rather Other since I am biased from reading the book on him. Fantastic read and you can’t help but root for him. I live here in Memphis as well. The blacks are so poor here.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Who is faking as Scottish Raider?
Get lost fake.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Two Scottish Raiders – no wonder I’m getting so much grief.
Move on Kiffin-lover.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Alisapieceofpoop,
You tell me who you want to take touches from. We only can have 5 skill position guys on the field each play. Most of the time there are only 4. It is obvious you are not sold on Schiliens which I strongly disagree with, but you still have alot guys left to disprove. McFadden deserves to get touches at RB and split out at WR. JLH deserves to be out there, Walker has to be out there, Bush needs to get more time at RB pushing Mcfadden to WR. Fargas still needs to get some touches. Miller should always be in the game. Why do you draft these guys if they start games, catch balls, score touchdowns and then you take the ball away from them because some kid in college looks like he might be better. Its stupid. These guys have progressed faster than most top NFL WR and you want to force them out before they even get a chance to start.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
I’ll admit it. I don’t know the first thing about footballl. I just repeat what I read.
Okay, I feel better now.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
I miss Kiff.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Trade Up for Philly’s 1st pick in the 1st at #21 if Mack is still on the board after #20. Give them our 2nd this year and a conditional 2nd or 3rd next year based on Mack’s playing time in 2009.
Draft Raj, Okapro or Maclin #7 and Mack #21.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
COW… #165… exactly.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Fake Scottish Raider, Are you trying to tell us that you aren’t the Scottish Raider that was bashing Al last year after he fired Kiff?
March 16th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Scottish – One mock I saw has Detroit at #7 because of that scenario. I don’t have a problem with it.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Last April’s draft
Jake Long – performed well
Chris Long – zero impact
Matt Ryan – performed well
DMc – little impact/injured
Dorsey – zero impact
Vernon Gholston – pictured on the back of milk cartons
Pundits laud every choice.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
ENOUGH.
So we now have two fake Scottish Raiders. I actually haven’t posted anything for weeks. Got bored after the last Mock. Now I find there are two imposter having a row about me…or rather themselves.
JUST BIZARRE.
Scottish Raider (the Real and Original) will not be posting again until draft time in April. All other Scottish Raiders are fake.
Get a life losers…stop stealing mine.
Perhaps I should change my name back to MR?
March 16th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
McFadden should get the most touches.
Fargas second.
Number 1 reciever third- not currently on roster.
Miller 4th
JLH 5th.
Did you really say these guys are progressing faster than most top WRs? Like who?
Walker should not be on field, he sux.
How the hell could you even THINK that?
March 16th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
M Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Last April’s draft
Jake Long – performed well
Chris Long – zero impact
Matt Ryan – performed well
DMc – little impact/injured
Dorsey – zero impact
Vernon Gholston – pictured on the back of milk cartons
Pundits laud every choice.
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Exactly dude. So much for those value picks huh by the pundits. Who cares where to draft a player. Draft the MOFO you think is going to perform. Plain and simple. Trevor Scott had more production as a part time player than Chris Long.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
The UPGRADE factor?
Assume anybody you draft at #7 you do so with the hope they will be at least a B+ quality starter asap.
DT – Sands / Warren D+
WR – Shillens / Walker / Shields C
DE – Burgess / Richardson C
C – (via trade down) Wade D+ (plus you add a pick)
In terms of MAKING THE TEAM BETTER the trade down or DT pick makes the biggest impact.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
darkknight01 Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Trading down would allow them to pick Mack where he should be taken and that is in the middle to late first round or they can trade down and target Rey Maualuga.
Yep, or trade back up from 2nd, and get MACK.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
I saw someone say Bush for C. Long. I can’t find it antwhere else, but that would be GREAT..
March 16th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
OK here’s my thoughts on the draft. Its obvious we need help at O-Line, D-Line, and WR.
From what I understand the only two tackles that can fit a zone-blocking scheme are Jason Smith and Eugene Monroe. Problem is they both will be gone by the time we pick at 7. However, Alex Mack and Max Unger both seem to fit a zone scheme well. With the departure of grove going center makes good sense. Problem with that though is that a center is not worth pick 7 money. Conclusion: Unless we trade down or have one of the centers fall to us in the second round we aren’t going O-Line
So lets move on to D-Line. At 7th I would consider either Brian Orakpo or BJ Raji. Brian Orakpo could replace burgess nicley(Burgess is in a contract year) but he will probably be gone by then. Hopefully, Trevor Scott can develop into Burgess’ role. BJ Raji will probably be avaialble when we pick and would help the run defence instantly(I actually like Raji a LOT). Problem with this is that we already have tons of money allocated to the DT position. Putting pick 7 money on top of Kelly’s contract is simply bad business. Plus Davis still has hope for Kelly because last year was Kelly’s “recovery year”. Conclusion: Unless Kelly suddenly gets cut, we aren’t going D-Line either.
This leaves WR. The only WRs worth pick 7 money is Crabtree and Maclin. I personally don’t like either one. Crabtree’s past month has concerned me. He has an injury, isn’t very fast(Davis has rubbed off on me…I believe WRs need adequate speed. And Crabtree only runs like a 4.7), isn’t as tall, and played in a gimmack offense. I simply don’t like him and supposively Davis doesn’t either. And I don’t know why but I simply don’t like Maclin. But he is fast so Davis may like him. Conclusion: If Davis likes Maclin then we are getting Maclin.
In the end I would prefer if we traded down and got Alex Mack/Max Unger at C and then got Darrius Heyward-Bey at WR. That would be my ideal situation but Davis has never trades down.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Coach,
How can you POSSIBLY give that trio of WRs a C? Come on man, not one of them on their own is a C how could the group equal a C? I cant believe some of the things im reading here. A C?? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 16th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
The only way the Raiders manage to trade down is if Detroit passes on Cuttles/Stafford/Sanchez.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Virginia,
Where did you see Crabtree runs a 4.7?
Where did you read Al dont like him?
Consider me the new B.S police around here, tired of people talking out their arse and posting it as fact.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I’m not so sure that a run heavy team with a deep threat RB who can line up at WR and a pass catching TE, sees a big upgrade with Maclin or Crabtree.
I’ll understand drafting them but DMAC out wide is bigger threat than either of them and Higgins can go deep as well. Shoot Miller had long plays splitting the seams.
More Bush, a healthy DMAC and more experience for Chazz & JLH opens it up for Miller too.
On the other hand our run D sux…
March 16th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Great!justin miller and jlh will have opposing special Teams worried about these two.We have a punt returner, Kick returner that will give our young offense a boost With field position,Another hole filled from within And a extra depth on the defensive line is a plus with Alot of injuries often occuring throughout the season The Raiders have addressed needs that were first Priority the offense and defensive lines.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Al I give them a C because Chazz played B level when he started. Plus, the group of them will add up to one C level WR over a season. 40-60 catches 600-700 yards and 6-7 TDs. A ROOKIE OF THE YEAR WR is 70-80, 1100, 10 TDs.
There would be an upgrade at WR but…a consistent run D makes a bigger upgrade…even if you have a man-crush on Crabtree.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
OZRAIDERS SAYS IT LIKE IT IS! THIS IS FOR ALL OF US RAIDERS AROUND THE WORLD,LETS SHOUT TOGETHER “ROME IS BURNING IN THE WEST,AND IS PAYBACK TIME!” BABY.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Virginia’s Raider Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
OK here’s my thoughts on the draft. Its obvious we need help at O-Line, D-Line, and WR.
From what I understand the only two tackles that can fit a zone-blocking scheme are Jason Smith and Eugene Monroe. Problem is they both will be gone by the time we pick at 7. However, Alex Mack and Max Unger both seem to fit a zone scheme well. With the departure of grove going center makes good sense. Problem with that though is that a center is not worth pick 7 money. Conclusion: Unless we trade down or have one of the centers fall to us in the second round we aren’t going O-Line
So lets move on to D-Line. At 7th I would consider either Brian Orakpo or BJ Raji. Brian Orakpo could replace burgess nicley(Burgess is in a contract year) but he will probably be gone by then. Hopefully, Trevor Scott can develop into Burgess’ role. BJ Raji will probably be avaialble when we pick and would help the run defence instantly(I actually like Raji a LOT). Problem with this is that we already have tons of money allocated to the DT position. Putting pick 7 money on top of Kelly’s contract is simply bad business. Plus Davis still has hope for Kelly because last year was Kelly’s “recovery year”. Conclusion: Unless Kelly suddenly gets cut, we aren’t going D-Line either.
This leaves WR. The only WRs worth pick 7 money is Crabtree and Maclin. I personally don’t like either one. Crabtree’s past month has concerned me. He has an injury, isn’t very fast(Davis has rubbed off on me…I believe WRs need adequate speed. And Crabtree only runs like a 4.7), isn’t as tall, and played in a gimmack offense. I simply don’t like him and supposively Davis doesn’t either. And I don’t know why but I simply don’t like Maclin. But he is fast so Davis may like him. Conclusion: If Davis likes Maclin then we are getting Maclin.
In the end I would prefer if we traded down and got Alex Mack/Max Unger at C and then got Darrius Heyward-Bey at WR. That would be my ideal situation but Davis has never trades down.
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Crabtree does NOT run a 4.7 forty!
Lets knock off the non sense!
March 16th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
I have calling for us to resign Justin Miller all offseason.
Thank you, Al!!!
March 16th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
COW,
I have seen one mock draft having the the Steelers picking Unger with the 32nd pick and Mack not going in the first round.
If that happens, I think it gets very nerve racking if Al doesn’t trade up from 40 to get Mack. He should go very early in the 2nd.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
The Raiders have been very much under the radar this off season and I like it. Re-signing Justin Miller is excellent news, one more thing off the check list. Joseph keeps a little more depth on the DLine.
It appears that the organization is becoming, well, organized. Everything so far has been on point and I expect more of the same, even come draft day.
Big things are on the horizon Nation
March 16th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Umm, 1 guy has better numbers than 2 and thats your argument? Uhhh, ohhhhhhkayyyy
March 16th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
I posted the other day about how the folks that don’t want Crabtree keep posting slower and slower 40 times for him here as “justification” for not choosing him.
Now he runs a 4.7
lol
March 16th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
We as RAIDERS know we have lost 70 or more games,we heard you, and take a BLOODY NOSE! NOW REMEMBER,PEARL HABOR,YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CANT HIDE.YOU KNOW WE ARE COMMING BABY!!!1
March 16th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
edward teach Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
I posted the other day about how the folks that don’t want Crabtree keep posting slower and slower 40 times for him here as “justification” for not choosing him.
Now he runs a 4.7
lol
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That is pretty funny …
March 16th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Hey, if Tree is gone. Wait and take Nicks. Dudes got the look of a baller too.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Alisapieceofpoop Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Virginia,
Where did you see Crabtree runs a 4.7?
Where did you read Al dont like him?
Consider me the new B.S police around here, tired of people talking out their arse and posting it as fact.
^^^^^^
Agreed!
March 16th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Alisapieceofpoop Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Umm, 1 guy has better numbers than 2 and thats your argument? Uhhh, ohhhhhhkayyyy
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I see you are still at it kid! Keep trying, lol!
So what is your argument, again? We have the worst unit … no, you backtracked off of that. Uh …. We need at best have a #3 in Schillens, and a #2 in JLH, and Walker is a bum. Thanks for those new flashes, genius. Now tell us who we should replace them with that is such an upgrade? Maclin? Robiskie? DHB? Nicks?
Matt Frickin Jones?
Like I said kid, keep trying!
March 16th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
What happened with Ohio State LB James Laurinaitis? I thought he was going to be a beast and now I don’t hear word one about him. What did I miss?
March 16th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
edward teach Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
I posted the other day about how the folks that don’t want Crabtree keep posting slower and slower 40 times for him here as “justification” for not choosing him.
Now he runs a 4.7
lol
^^^^^
Yep….hilariously ridiculous…..
March 16th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
MR is the B.S. police!
LOL!
March 16th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Orakpo is still on the board at #7 on many mock drafts. Cable called out the need for DE help.
Orakpo or Raj or Maclin sem most likely barring trade down.
As for Crabtree’s 40 time – HE HASN’T RUN. However 4.7 has been floated as an estimate because scouts say he lacks straight line speed. If a scout took a watch to game film he could get 4.7 but in fairness to Crabtree he’d be in pads not running at the combine.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Post192,are you related to chaos? Just wont let it go,maybe some think they will improve as the weeks go on,that when given the chance they contributed (week15&16).Anyway,so far Im ok with the off season moves aipop
March 16th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Alisapieceofpoop Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Hey, if Tree is gone. Wait and take Nicks. Dudes got the look of a baller too.
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Hey GMs of the league!
No one draft Nicks at the back of round one or in round 2, so we have chance at him in Rd 3.
Got that everyone?
Thanks!
March 16th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Cable and AL PLEASE READ THIS ! We want players that that want to WIN.! COACH CABLE ,dont want players,that cant coach with them,can’t play with them ,can’t win with them ,can’t even talk to them,and can’t do nothing with them!
March 16th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
I didnt back off, they do have the worst. Numbers back me up. Told you to check it. Pretty easy to find.
You are gonna tell me they shouldnt take Tree if hes there?
March 16th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
MR, I’m with you.
Crabtree! Crabtree! Crabtree!
March 16th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
What happened with Ohio State LB James Laurinaitis? I thought he was going to be a beast and now I don’t hear word one about him. What did I miss?
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His combine was AWFUL, and apparently he didn’t do much better at the OSU pro day. Someone will still grab him in rd 1 though.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
How do you estimate a 40 time? LOL
March 16th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Jhill
Thanks bro, I have been somewhat disconnected from this stuff. Life moving pretty fast these days.
I don’t see the Raiders drafting an LB in the 1st round, but I have been wrong before. On the other hand if Curry is somehow on the board at #7 how do the Raiders not draft him?
March 16th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
You are gonna tell me they shouldnt take Tree if hes there?
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LMN, I mean Poopie, see post … Nevermind, here it is again
When did I ever say our WR corps were good enough? I thought I said that (1)Crabtree won’t be available, (2)Maclin or any other WR is no better than what we already have in JLH, (3)Since we ALREADY have Walker, no need to bring in a guy like Jones or any other vet (4)Robiskie or any other 2nd rd pick makes no sense without seeing what guys we drafted LAST YEAR can do, (5)Let the young guys play and see what they have instead of drafting another PROSPECT, (6) And wasn’t I the leader of the sign TO bandwagon?
One of your alter egos must’ve been posting during that time.
Keep trying!
March 16th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
JHill,
I will leave this board for ever if you find one “draft guru” site or publication that does NOT list WR as a need for the Raiders. Just one.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Crabtree’s official 40 time is 4.55
Not that it matters much. Whole lotta guys starting and producing in the NFL don’t even run that fast. I posted the list a few days ago, so if you want to know who they are feel free to go back and look for it. Hint: two of them are Pro Bowl receivers for the Arizona Cardinals.
Maybe he runs 4.7 with the cast on.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Whats your argument then? That Chaz is a future PBer?
March 16th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
For the 1002 time …
If Curry, Orakpo, Eugene Monroe, Jason Smith, or Crabtree are on the board at 7, it shouldn’t be too hard for us to make a pick.
If all those players are gone, then it get real tricky. Hopefully Sanchez and Stafford give us a chance to trade out!
March 16th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Our coach CABLE,has his pants up,his is building this team from the inside out this is going to be a good team and maybe a dynasty. SO if he put this puzzle toghether we will be in the SUPERBOWL again!The team needs time to work together with its players,QB and coaches!RAIDER FANS BE PATIENT,HE WHOS FIRST SHALL BE LAST AND HE WHOS LAST WILL BE FIRST.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Well OK then.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Alisapieceofpoop Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Whats your argument then? That Chaz is a future PBer?
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Are you serious? I’m not about to start this thing from scratch. It’s right there in front of you in my last post. And all over this blog since what 9 this morning. Feel free to re-read the whole thing. Be ready for a quiz in an hour. Is that enough time?
March 16th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
B !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where U at ?!?!?!?!
I’m ready to pass the baton!
March 16th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
edward teach Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Crabtree’s official 40 time is 4.55
Not that it matters much. Whole lotta guys starting and producing in the NFL don’t even run that fast. I posted the list a few days ago, so if you want to know who they are feel free to go back and look for it. Hint: two of them are Pro Bowl receivers for the Arizona Cardinals.
Maybe he runs 4.7 with the cast on.”
Just for a frame of reference Larry Fitzgerald ran a 4.63 at the combine. The 40 yard dash time isn’t always indicative of future success.
Jery Rice never ran a sub-4.5 40 either.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
All I know is that drafting Maclin at #7 would be stupid…..even more stupid would be to draft Maclin ahead of Crabtree!
March 16th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
I imagine others have made this comparison but screw it:
Maclin = JLH
If the Raiders draft a WR in the 1st Round it BETTER be Crabtree.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Now AL and coach CABLE knows this was a very sluggish and very disfuctional team,they know we have been boo and all sort of mistakes have occur,on and of the field.SO give this MAN RESPECT!and if we all show him we are behind him and give him the love we gave the old RAIDERS and cheer for what he has accomplish we will win!
March 16th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Anyone know the last time the Raiders drafted an All Pro player? I am getting grief from a douchebag at work and I want to make sure he isnt full of crap. H e claims its Aso and Shane only in the last 15 years. I cant beleive thats the case, but dont know. Help.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
edward teach Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Crabtree’s official 40 time is 4.55
Not that it matters much. Whole lotta guys starting and producing in the NFL don’t even run that fast. I posted the list a few days ago, so if you want to know who they are feel free to go back and look for it. Hint: two of them are Pro Bowl receivers for the Arizona Cardinals.
Maybe he runs 4.7 with the cast on.”
Just for a frame of reference Larry Fitzgerald ran a 4.63 at the combine. The 40 yard dash time isn’t always indicative of future success.
Jery Rice never ran a sub-4.5 40 either.
^^^^^^^
Exactly! I also think the WR that some of us want the old man to trade for Boldin….ran like a 4.7?
Enough with the stupidity which is Michael Crabtree bashing.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
He is NOT full of crap. Up untill this year, Shano Lech was it. Yep, a punter was the only guy drafted by Al to head to Hawaii.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
I’ll tell you why we’re taking a WR @ 7, because Al Davis will be making the pick! LOL….
March 16th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Dirty Raccoon Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
I saw someone say Bush for C. Long. I can’t find it antwhere else, but that would be GREAT..
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if i were the Rams, i would take that deal in a heartbeat…
dumping a yet to be proven DE at about 8 million per year…
and getting what could be my all-pro 1000 yard rusher at about 750K per year…
but since i’m a Raider fan…
i say… you are out of your freaking mind…
March 16th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
darkknight01 Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
“Exactly! I also think the WR that some of us want the old man to trade for Boldin….ran like a 4.7?”
ding ding ding!
Charlie, let the man know what he’s won…
March 16th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Alisapieceofpoop = Stupidest handle of all-time.
How old are you? 13
Al is a joke, but to actually use the word “poop”
March 16th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Draft to stop the run.
Please!!!
March 16th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
sssooo… anyone know any good free porn sites ??oh yeah uhhh . trade down and draft somebody ../ lol
March 16th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Derrick Burgess in ‘06…..
March 16th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
have da raiders ever traded down ?? we better draft all defensive players ..!
March 16th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Florida Pete,
Ever heard of Steven Jackson?
The Rams would think they were on Punkd if the Raiders called with that trade. If you two actually think the Rams would trade Chris Long for Mike Bush then you need to seek help and fast. I am just hoping, praying that those 2 posts were jokes.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Jerry Rice ran 4.7 and played in a “gimmick” offense at Mississippi Valley State. His QB was a guy named Willie Totten and they threw the ball all over the yard. Rice never played against NFL-caliber defensive backs, nor did he run the traditional NFL route tree while in college.
He had talent, though. Most people would say he had a pretty nice career, too.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Lets go now ‘lets ALL BLOG TOGHETHER FOR OUR COACH CABLE he deserves it.”HE SAID WE ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE THIS GAME,WE ARE NOT GIVING THIS GAME TO THEM,AND THEY WILL HAVE TO RIP OUR HEARTS OUT AND THROW THEM IN THE FIELD!WE WILL WIN WITH WHAT WE GET,STICK THIS IN YOUR FOREHEADS! “We are RAIDERS REMEMBER.”
March 16th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Alisapieceofpoop Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
How do you estimate a 40 time? LOL
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square root of estimated forty time, squared…
not that complicated…
March 16th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Johnny Tyler,
F U
March 16th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
JingTao….
oops…just read your post again…nevermind….
March 16th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
I imagine others have made this comparison but screw it:
Maclin = JLH
If the Raiders draft a WR in the 1st Round it BETTER be Crabtree.
^^^^^^
Yep! I have been sayin the samn thing!
No way this team drafts a player like Maclin with the similar skill set as JLH with the #7 pick.
That would be a waste pick and Coach Cable said himself that the key to the draft is to not waste picks.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
ehhh — jerry rice was overrated.. but i think j.r.rider was da best basketball player i ever seeen . so ….
March 16th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
i mean if he hadnt gotten fat and on drugs he— ok ok . so what type of defense does dis new d-coordinator run ?
March 16th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
i hope he blitzes . we need to blitz . .. i wonder if barack obama could kikk paul tagliabue`s ass.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
our future roster = plaxico / chaz schillens / d.mac / z.miller / tim tebow . –
March 16th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
# JingTao Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Anyone know the last time the Raiders drafted an All Pro player? I am getting grief from a douchebag at work and I want to make sure he isnt full of crap. H e claims its Aso and Shane only in the last 15 years. I cant beleive thats the case, but dont know. Help.
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Tell him there are only 24 All Pro Players. We have 2. While we have 3% of the leagues players we have almost 9% of it’s All Pro Players. And If that is not enough, tell him to wait a year or so, and we will probably have a bunch more.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
if tim tebow is the fooball messiah , then is blake griffin the basketball antichrist ? think about it — uhhh, raiders should inside blitz and play soft cover 3 defense dis season. our secondary has da speed to break on passes
March 16th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Or you could just ask him how many Super Bowl rings the Chargers have.
Sorry. Maybe I’m jumping to conclusions here but when you said he was a douchebag I automatically thought “Charger fan”.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
what would happen if m.bush/juggernaut and a.haynesworth/HULK ran smack into each other ?? pure carnage
March 16th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
edward teach Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Or you could just ask him how many Super Bowl rings the Chargers have.
Sorry. Maybe I’m jumping to conclusions here but when you said he was a douchebag I automatically thought “Charger fan”.
^^^^^^
Yep! Just like their douchebag QB cry me a Rivers!
March 16th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Umm.. 24 players times 15 years. So he is right. Damn. I find that fact a bit unbelievable. And I believe he was refering to Pro Bowl players. No wonder we are where were at.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
NoMoreFargas Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
4eva no one is excited by cable least of all the players, al is trying to prove he can win with a yes man like he did twice with flores for all you norv haters he has won 2more playoff games than marty did
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. We’re tremendously excited about the new staff and Coach Cable and getting this thing to continue to roll like it did against Houston at home and against Tampa on the road,” Coach Roll added.
I’ve told you B4 nomorefargas you dont even know your own team,soo there you go.Now go back 2 your 49er blog
March 16th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
this is true ed teach all charger fans are certified douche bags. and all male charger fans are officially required to wear pink speedos 2 home games
March 16th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
i bet phillip rivers can crack brick walls with his chin though. hes an incredible.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
4eva, any pigs?
March 16th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Tried that defense. He just asks me when the last time the Raiders won it was. He isnt a Charger fan, hes from Philly and dies hard for the Eagles.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Great news!!! I’m glad we brought back Miller because he was a bright spot last year. Al looks like he knows what he’s doing this offseason. Resigning the leaders and good players on our roster and letting the under performers go. I hope Jerry tells us who showed up to the workouts today. I’d love to see who is actually there
March 16th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
get em 4eva…
March 16th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Pooper Scooper speaking nonsense as usual! JLH,Schilens,and Shields are your future at WR. Get over it
March 16th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Al Davis is not a Joke.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
If thats true, then this offense will continue to sputter. So a midget, a 7th rounder and a guy who spent the first year on the IR are our future at WR?
Al Davis is insane, but maybe not that insane. Shillens will be unemployed in 2 years and Sheilds will NEVER play a game for the Raiders
March 16th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Al trading down possibly this year. No impact players this year.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Al Davis is the worst owner in all of sports. I will be a happy camper the day I wake up and find out he has passed on to the great owners box in the sky.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Great pickup by re-signing Justin Miller. He really worked well with our special teams. Good pickup.
William Joseph signing is of no significance. He was a camp cut last year before being re-signed.
The Raiders are still going to pick either Raji or Tyson Jackson. I don’t see the Raiders taking a WR. They won’t be trading down as no one will want to trade up. Eagles have several holes to fill and need all their picks to get better.
Detroit – Matt Stafford – Need a QB
St. Louis – Jason Smith – Replace Pace
Kansas City – Aaron Curry or Brian Orakpo – Pass rush need
Seattle – Brian Orakpo or Aaron Curry – Replace Pederson
Cleveland – Everette Brown – Pass rusher need
Cincy – Eugene Monroe – Protect Carson Palmer
Oakland – B.J Raji or Tyson Jackson – 31st against run
March 16th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Trading down w/ Philly and taking Mack/Unger and Brace would be a very solid move but the question is why would Philly move up to 7? Not saying they don’t just asking opinions on why they would.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
If Bush continues to dominate and Shillens keeps lookn like the next T.O. I say ship D Mac to Washington for Haynesworth.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
No hogs 2day,or all week .
408 yep he hiding on his 49er blog.The foo cant even understand his own team.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
S&B,
How many of Rajis games did you watch the last 2 years?
Where did the Oakland passing game rank last year?
How many open roster spots do the Raiders have at DT?
Just answer the ?s if you can. No B.S. just answers.
1)
2)
3)
March 16th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Brien The General Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
If Bush continues to dominate and Shillens keeps lookn like the next T.O. I say ship D Mac to Washington for Haynesworth.
Bush to Rams for Chris Long!
March 16th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Ha, okay so 7th rounder means you arent worth anything in the NFL. Damn Marques Colston sure sucks then lol
March 16th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Kelly’s restructured and if we get Raji @ 7 Sands will be cut if he doesn’t restructure. If we get Orakpo he can replace Burgess next year or we can use Burgess as trade bait and maybe trade up for Mack
March 16th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
We obviously have a troll! I compare none of our players to a 9er punk like TO
March 16th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
GO with goat chow! Or corn and molasses.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Wow… Go away for the weekend, and all kinds of stuff happens..
Real happy, w/ the re-signing of Miller.
Barnes?? not so sure, didn’t like his penalty & sacks allowed stats from last season. Just hope that he is motivated (playing for a bigger contract) to keep Russell’s considerable back side from hitting the ground, and to open huge holes for the three headed monster.
And better hope that Al didn’t promise Barnes, that he could drive the team bus. Dude has issues behind the wheel.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
JLH is a midget then what is Steve Smith and Wes Welker?
March 16th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
So one 7th rd reciever is a stud and now they all will be right?
99% of the top WRs in the league were early rd picks
#282= No credibility for you
March 16th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
JLH is a playmaker, his size really hurt him last year didn’t it lol come on now really saying he is a midget is what you base it on? The guy flat out made plays and won games for the Raiders.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
All Pro, great WRs in the NFL. Something JLH is not.
No way Sands gets cut. No way Raji is pick. Passed on Dorsey last year, who was far and away a better prospect, but theyr gonna take Raji this year. Nope.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
William Joseph signing is of no significance. He was a camp cut last year before being re-signed.
The Raiders are still going to pick either Raji or Tyson Jackson. I don’t see the Raiders taking a WR. They won’t be trading down as no one will want to trade up. Eagles have several holes to fill and need all their picks to get better.
Detroit – Matt Stafford – Need a QB
St. Louis – Jason Smith – Replace Pace
Kansas City – Aaron Curry or Brian Orakpo – Pass rush need
Seattle – Brian Orakpo or Aaron Curry – Replace Pederson
Cleveland – Everette Brown – Pass rusher need
Cincy – Eugene Monroe – Protect Carson Palmer
Oakland – B.J Raji or Tyson Jackson – 31st against run
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Lol S&B …
I knew you would blow off adding a #4 DT. Of course it is insignificant that he was one the team and in the rotation at the end of the year B/C you are so locked into Raji. Forget that the Raiders gave him $ to come back. He sucks to, huh?
Too funny!
And you better hope your mock is wrong b/c we will not pass on Crabtree to take Raji.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Pooper Scooper, I dont think you really follow the Raiders otherwise you would know how high the org is on Shields and why
March 16th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
# inonewordraider Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Kelly’s restructured and if we get Raji @ 7 Sands will be cut if he doesn’t restructure. If we get Orakpo he can replace Burgess next year or we can use Burgess as trade bait and maybe trade up for Mack
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I agree with this strategy…it will only change if Curry falls to #7…or a trade-down with Philly
March 16th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
JohnnyTyler Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
S&B,
How many of Rajis games did you watch the last 2 years?
Where did the Oakland passing game rank last year?
How many open roster spots do the Raiders have at DT?
Just answer the ?s if you can. No B.S. just answers.
1) None. I don’t follow the B.C or the ACC
2) 31st or 32nd
3) 2 – Terdell Sands and William Joseph are not locks
March 16th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
The Eagles have been to two Super Bowls. They are 0-2. They were pummeled by the Oakland Raiders 27-10 in their first appearance, the same Raiders who have been to two and won one since then.
You either have rings or you don’t.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Won games? How many?LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He had 22 freakn catches! Thats a good 2 games for a top WR.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
allrighty then
Gnite NATION
March 16th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Credibility? I have it you dont! You miss it as usual! You dont follow the team at all or listen to the pressers
March 16th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
His punt return ability flat out changed games for us, and the last 2-3 games he really turned it on at receiver. Did you watch any games last year?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
1) You want a guy youve never seen? Wow.
2) 32 AKA dead last
3) Sands is a lead pipe lock. No way Al admits a mistake and cuts his fat ass.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
JohnnyTyler Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
S&B,
How many of Rajis games did you watch the last 2 years?
Where did the Oakland passing game rank last year?
How many open roster spots do the Raiders have at DT?
Just answer the ?s if you can. No B.S. just answers.
1)
2)
3)
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piss on you, maddenraider…
nobody’s going to take your fuqqing tests…
March 16th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Pooper stats are for accountants. Very misleading
March 16th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Every one. How many games did he win for them? How do explain him only haveing 22 catches? Hey, I like the guy, as a number 3. And he IS a midget.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
# JohnnyTyler Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
1) You want a guy youve never seen? Wow.
2) 32 AKA dead last
3) Sands is a lead pipe lock. No way Al admits a mistake and cuts his fat ass.
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Cause Al didn’t cut all of the free agents he signed last year to big contracts except Walker who he made restructure? Yah he would never cut him lol
March 16th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
And I don’t think we need a base end. At 6′5, I see Scott and Gunhiem developing into solid base ends. Even moreso Scott with his athleticism. They should both be able to carry 275 really well. We need a DE that will be a threat across from LT on every play.
I also think LB is in play before Raji, as Kelly is our 3 down DT period, end of story. Marshall runs more 3-3-5 so the DT would be the one coming out on 3rd down with all 3 LBs staying on the field. I don’t buy Rey Mauluga not being a 3 down LB coming out of the pac 10. All they do in the pac 10 is throw and he was constantly on the field.
It’s so wide open at 7, it’s ridiculous!
March 16th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
FloridaPete,
You must answer for your retarted post about Bush to the Rams.
1) Ever heard of Steve Jackson?
2) Do you really think the Rams would make that deal?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Lol so you were saying Chaz stinks cuz he is a 7th rounder but yet Colston is proof that your argument holds no weight.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
More proof the Raiders are considering A. Smith at #7.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?blogid=11&entry_id=37049#readmore
March 16th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Sands is his boy. Hes not going anywhere. He would have already been cut if that was the plan.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Pooper Scooper did you hear last months presser? People held back the young guys from PT. Last season how many passes were intended for them? I will wait
March 16th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
The teams that may want to trade up to the 7th spot are the Buffalo Bills, Bears, Jets, Philly.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Exception to every rule.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
# JohnnyTyler Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Every one. How many games did he win for them? How do explain him only haveing 22 catches? Hey, I like the guy, as a number 3. And he IS a midget.
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JLH was not a starter the entire year.
JLH w/ Kwame Harris blocking for Russell
10 catches for 192 yards in 13 games
JLH w/ out Kwame Harris
12 catches for 174 yards in 3 games
hmmm maybe it was the blocking that effected the passing game/offense?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Why do people want to get rid of Bush? For Long? From what I’ve seen of Fargas and McFadden, we need all the RB’s we can get.
I hope Bush can really be the monster he looked like against TB. Especially if Oren can make that initial block for him. Who would want to stand in the way of those 2 wrecking balls all game long? Those 2 alone could help open up the passing game.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Jhill, Raji isnt in play
March 16th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
We get what we get,anything is better than nothing we will begin to get back to normal,and AL and the RAIDERS are famous for the WIDE RECEIVERS CORP,we will have a bunch of them,the coaches now the offense needs to score heavy and we want their defense to suffer the same way we did!
March 16th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
According to Al, they were held back. He will say whatever he can to put the blame on Kiffin. If they were good enough to play they would have. Keep drinkn that Kool Aid, bro.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Exception to rule means you are defeated sir. Try try try try again
March 16th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
If Raji drops I am sure they would entertain the option but his clone on the offensive side will be there at #7.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
JHIll says,
Lol S&B …
I knew you would blow off adding a #4 DT. Of course it is insignificant that he was one the team and in the rotation at the end of the year B/C you are so locked into Raji. Forget that the Raiders gave him $ to come back. He sucks to, huh?
Too funny!
And you better hope your mock is wrong b/c we will not pass on Crabtree to take Raji.
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William Joseph was signed last spring. That didn’t stop the Raiders from cutting him before the regular season starter. Players are signed all the time that don’t make the roster. There will be cuts before June 1st and during camp. Happens every year. The only locks are Kelly and Warren.
As for the mock draft. The only changes that I see happening are if Detroit takes Jason Smith or if Green Bay or Denver trades up with Seattle or Cincy to get Raji.
Crabtree will not be the pick and neither will Maclin. Davis is more than happy with the contingent of receivers on the team right now.
Al Davis on the receivers:
I wanted to play the young players. All year long, I wanted to play the young players. In the last two games, Higgins and Schilens accounted for five touchdowns. Higgins and Schilens accounted for five touchdowns. That was about the only time, that someone started to play those two guys regularly, where they could show what they could do where they could run and show their speed. Higgins had other opportunities, but it was great, if you take five touchdowns in two games, and even whittle it down to two touchdowns in 16 games apiece, we’ve got tw o guys who are catching eight touchdowns apiece. I think the youth of this team, if you really follow it and watch it, has really got a chance to be pretty good, and he believed in the youth and played them, and showed us what they could do those two young guys, for just as an example.
-Al Davis
March 16th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
#317 by DoucheMunoz,
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 16th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
If Kiffin does not deserve blame then how to do you explain running out the game clock or trying a 76 yard field goal into the wind to make sure you loose?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Kool aid talk is for those who are getting slapped at every turn! What a cop out
March 16th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
The Barnes signing means they could still cut him before the season starts.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
JohnnyTyler Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
FloridaPete,
You must answer for your retarted post about Bush to the Rams.
1) Ever heard of Steve Jackson?
2) Do you really think the Rams would make that deal?
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Steve Jackson is an ordinary back… about a 4.3 or 4.4 yard career avg… a good back, not special…
i was responding to an earlier post about someone saying send Bush to STL for C Long…
i don’t know if the lambs would make that deal… but if i were their GM, i would in a heartbeat…
March 16th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
The top 50 list of NFL WRs is just FULL of 7th rd picks. I mean I am having trouble counting there are so many.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
As soon as we get our recivers together and have our coaches throw the “AIR CORYELL’ATTACK,and I beleive BIG AL has a coach that loves that,well there’s no telling what we can do!
March 16th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
No wonder Russell looked so much better away from Kiffin after Russell found out the other team knew what advise was being given out over the cell phone after Kiffin had been fired.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
JohhnyTyler post 325 proves just how little you know about football. If you can’t acknowledge the fact that the entire offense was 10 times better after Harris was replaced by Henderson. You no longer require a response to your ignorant statements. Go back to the Charger blogs weak sauce.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Poop chute, you actually believe in life the best people always get the job? If you believe that them I got land to sell ya in the middle of the Pacific Ocean
March 16th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
So your telling me you would trade a number 2 overall pick a year after drafting him for a guy who is coming off 2 leg injuries and has barely played. All this and you have one of the top 5 backs in the NFL already?
Your saying Bush is Better than Jackson?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Doesnt matter about top WR. You made the claim he is out of the NFL in 2 years because he is a 7th rd pick. No logic at all
March 16th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Kool aid talk is for those who are getting slapped at every turn! What a cop out. Let’s talk jizz soda.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
DoucheMunoz,
Howd that O look against Atlanta or Carolina?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Poop chute, I love taking it up the poop chute♥♥♥
March 16th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
The main reason the Raiders won’t be dysfunctional this year is because the press is calling them dysfunctional. Thats why they are not announcing the player signings.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Jackson is not one of the top five backs in the game…
dumping an 8 million salary sophomore…
for a beast like Bush at 750,000 a year…
yeah, i would…
oh, and i’m not saying bush is better than jackson, you jackass…
i’m saying what i said…
March 16th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
He will be out the league because he is a dime a dozen player, not because of what round he was picked. What percentage of 7th rders the last 10 years are still in the league? No way its 10%
March 16th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
The Raiders won’t trade any backs, next subject.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Your irrational posts leads me to believe you dont watch the games. Tell me flaws in the 3 or 4 young wr we are high on. No you cant. You are just a crybaby wimp who lets box scores determine your analysis
March 16th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Sup Yalls.
Bringing in Holt for an interview. Weighing other options as far as vet WR goes with respect to trade…
Stay Strong NATION
March 16th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Rae Carruth, Yatil Green, Marcus Nash, Peter Warrick, R. Jay Soward, Sylvester Morris, Freddie Mitchell, Koren Robinson, Rod Gardner and David Terrell.
all first round picks
lol
March 16th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Im expecting Al to trade. Al not shelling big bucks to a rookie that doesnt make him wet his pampers. No impact guys at 7
March 16th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Steven Jackson is a top 5 back without a doubt.
He is young and is 3 times the back Bush is.
Bush is a beast, based on what? 2 games?
I would LOVE, LOVE to hear the response you would get if you proposed that trade to JMac during his next live chat. Please, dude. Log on and propose that trade.LOL!!
March 16th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
I certainly hope the Raiders have an outstanding 09 season. If that happens I hope all the Al and Raider bashers will have the guts to come on here and say they were wrong.
It’s one thing to hate a team and be involved in the back and forth that comes along with it, but to hope for Al’s death is despicable. It seems Al can do no right where some are concerned. I can’t think of one thing I disagree with this off season.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Yalls Trippin you were right about J. Smith, again I say A. Smith will be the pick at #7.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
My irrational posts leads me to believe I dont watch the games. That’s because it’s hard to watch the games when I’m all wasted and taking it up the poop chute.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
The offense against ATL and CAR in weeks 9 and 10 has something to do with us talking about weeks 15-17 when Harris was finally benched? Your arguments are becoming more and more irrational and make less and less sense the more you scramble to try and make a point. The only point you have made so far is that you don’t watch the games and know very little about the game of football.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
THE RAIDERS ,AND BIG AL AND CABLE ARE PUTTING THIS ORGANIZATION TOGETHER! They have the kicking team,they got the runners,they have the special team players #1 in the league and punt returners.We have the DE corners sign and ready,they have the coaches ready in place,and MEATHEAD RYAN is not here anymore.We have a new defense and new defensive coordinator in place,What more in such a time?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Receiver has the second highest bust potential behind qb in round one, Crabtree won’t be the pick.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Is there enough room on this site for me to list the WRs that were bums from RD 2-7? Shut up DoucheMunoz, your almost as bad as this clown proposing a Mike Bush to Rams trade.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
I hope 345 is the real Yalls.
Yalls is the King.
Long Live Yalls Trippin.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Of course they want to check out Holt. If we want a WR you get a vet like Torry. A winner in the NFL not some top pick rookie
March 16th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Torry Holt is the #1 receiver in the NFL since 2000, why would you not sign him?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
JohnnyTyler Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
1) You want a guy youve never seen? Wow.
2) 32 AKA dead last
3) Sands is a lead pipe lock. No way Al admits a mistake and cuts his fat ass.
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1: I don’t have the time to watch every college football game. And I tend to watch the team I follow. Even when watching, I am rarely focused on the draft. My guess is most of you have not seen all of the top 15 players in action. So you look at highlights, scouting reports and other info.
2: Dead last in pass offense because of coaching turmoil, 3 play callers, DMAC hurt, and the wrong lineup until late in the season. A good offseason, DMAC/Bush, Schilens/JLH for a full year, Russell leanring, consistent coaching…the Raiders won’t be anywhere near 32nd next year.
3: Sands is as much of a lock as Harris, Wilson, LaMont Jordon, Ronald Curry, deAngelo Hall….and others.
Even if Raji isn’t drafted, there will be more competition by camp for Sands and Joseph
March 16th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Oakglenn and BHP are kings
March 16th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Lost in the defensive stats is the 31st ranked passing offense.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Are you really trying to make it seem like listing 5 rounds against 1 is even logical Johhnygirl? First off the WR’s in round 1 make a lot more than the ones in 2-7 so even if they bust out it doesn’t make as big of an impact as a 1st rounder genius. Go back to your Charger blogs, stop getting slapped around by me and Brien. It’s not even fun anymore cause your posts offer nothing to this blog.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Oh is that right, cause JLH and Shillens best games were when Kwame was starting, so how do you figure?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
After his pro-day, I’m not sure Smith is athletic enough to play in Cable’s hybrid-zone blocking system.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Holt is welcomed. Guy runs perfect routes got good hands. Make offense more complete.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
DoucheMunoz,
What round were 90% of the top recivers drafted?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Brien, no offense, but you’re a retard.
There can be only one king….
His name is YALLS TRIPPIN.
Long Live Yalls.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Oakglenn and BHP are kings and have the whitest juiciest koks ever. Man I ♥ those dudes.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Johhny the best games by the passing offense were the last two and Mario was the starter, next.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Can someone explain how are we going to stop the run next year? I personally think we need to sign Roy especially since he wants to play ss close to the line
March 16th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Holt,Walker,Higgins and Chaz would be fine for Russell. Alot of versatility for the O
March 16th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Part of the equation to fix the run defense is to convert third downs on offense.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
WHO’S READY FOR SOME PISTON-PUMPIN, RECTUM-RAMMING, CHOCOLATE-HOTDOG, MAN-ON-MAN ACTION? KIFFY, THAT’S WHO! NOW THAT ALL OF THAT BORING LEGAL STUFF IS OVER, IT’S TIME TO PARTY…ENEMA PARTY THAT IS! WITH THE BELLE OF THE BALL! WATCH OUT SF. YOU THINK YOU’VE SEEN IT ALL? YOU AINT SEEN DlCK! IT’S LANCE’S NIGHT OUT!
March 16th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Brien I thought you loved Un-KoolKell?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Chaz in week 8 vs Balt
JLH vs Buff even if it was only 1 catch
March 16th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Holts real good on grass. Idiot!
March 16th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
I keep looking at PFT web site expecting some news from the Al Davis lance kiffin bout.
Round 1 “Ding Ding”
March 16th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Henderson is not going to get it done as a starter at either tackle spot. Now, Al hires Barnes, a tackle that gave up 7 1/2 sacks , committed 9 penalties was arreested for a DUI where he claimed the cops were racist. Barnes is trouble and was bad enough that he was not even ask back by the Jaquars, nor was he seriously sought after by any other teams. Carisle is mediocre and Green is a reserve at best.
The fact is until the Raiders bring in some real talent for competition on the “O” line the Raiders are going nowhere. Andre Smith needs to be the choice at #7, a center in the 2nd, a guard in the 3rd and more “D” linemen later on.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Troll you are a retard. Look who your name pays homage to! Yes there are 2 kings of the blog. Oakglenn and BHP have a dual monarchy.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Chaz had 0 TD’s in week 8 idiot and if you take yards over TD’s you are a fool
JLH 6 catches is better than 30 more yards because he was keeping drives alive not just flashing once and done.
Learn about football before you post again rookie.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
SFGATE mentioned Bills C/G Duke Preston was still in contact with the Raiders after being in for a visit a few weeks ago.
Hope Al can land this guy as well.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
666, tell everyone how Scheilens is going to have a better carrer than Crabtree.
LOL!
March 16th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Your right, Holt is real good on grass, so good that he is the #1 receiver in the NFL since 2000 in receptions and yards. Sign Holt now!
March 16th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Good idea brien, he could come in mentor some of our great young WR’s and you know he wont drop that many passes cause he has great hands. and he may not be that fast anymore but he is still a great route runner.
Good off season guys keep kickin ass!!
March 16th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
JHill,
Trevor Scott is not a base defensive end. He will be better off lining up over the LT and rushing the passer. Now, if he puts on 15 or lbs then we can talk about him at base end and being able to stand up effectively against the run.
Until then, a base DE is still a need for this team
March 16th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
what did william Joseph do last year to deserve a contract?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
666 in on scholarship! Kell hates me. I find the guy funny
March 16th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Holt is welcomed. Guy runs his kok down my throat as smooth as anyone. Still wished he was white though. You just can’t beat a white kok.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
So 2 catches for 16 yards and a TD is better than 8 for 66? Hmm…ok.Didnt I tell you to shut your hole?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Brien, both Oakglenn and BHP loved Kiffin while he was here.
Translation = Morons
You know what that makes you, right?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
I tend to think the Raiders should start with Barnes at RT and Mario at LT. Barnes is the better run blocker. The last three games of last season suggest Mario may be the better pass blocker.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Great to have Miller back. Joseph will likely be fighting for a roster spot but hopefully he can get it going too.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Playing at least 8 games a year in a dome
March 16th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Cracks me up when people quote the part of the press conference that supports their view and totally ignore the part that doesn’t.
The press conference some of you are referring to when you talk about the WR situattion is the same press conference where Al Davis said that Mario Henderson is the Raiders’ left tackle.
In case you haven’t noticed, Khalif Barnes played (started at) left tackle for Jacksonville and one of the main reasons he signed with the Raiders is because he was told he would compete for the starting job there.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
He never had 8 catches rookie and a TD is still better than 66 yards kiddo
March 16th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Joseph did nothing but he is reporting to voluntary workouts on time without bitching. I am telling you guys this draft is deep in o-lineman and the Raiders will draft o-lineman. Thats the reason Sands, Jospeph, Warren, and Kelly are still on the roster. How much money do they have tied up in those four right now?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Troll you are a retard. Yes there are 2 kings of the blog. Oakglenn and BHP get me hornier than a two petered billy goat. Man those dudes are HOT!.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Craptree never played in 2wr set in college. Chaz did, Higgins did,Walker too as did Shields and Holt. Next?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
I hope The Raiders start the season on the road? Id take that over any monday night opener at home.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Didnt say he did. Ever heard of a hypothetical, numb nut. Like I said… Shut your hole
March 16th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Raiders75 (Dez Bryant for 2010) Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
SFGATE mentioned Bills C/G Duke Preston was still in contact with the Raiders after being in for a visit a few weeks ago.
Hope Al can land this guy as well.
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I agree. That would give us another guy to go with Wade at C, and if they can still get a guy like Mack or another good center, Preston can work in at guard as well.
Also, I agree with your praise of Dez Bryant. If he were in this draft I’d say take him over both Crabtree and Maclin. Since he’s not and we hopefully won’t be picking top-5 next year, I’m saying take Crabtree or Maclin at No. 7 (or Rey Maualuga).
March 16th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
666 in on scholarship! Kell ♥ me. I find the guy’s kok is a funny shape but the dude can get it up.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
And that fact means…………..
March 16th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
AL and Cable all they need is 3 wishes .1ONE fix the OF LINE,OT,give JR more time for schemes and push the blabard out of the way to let THE THREE HEADED MONSTER[runners] have the open lanes .2TWO fix the defense so we have guys up front that can rush the QB in 3sec and put their hands up to block the view and the ball.And be aware of the runner and trip him or get him down were ever he is.STOP THE RUN !And Linebackers STOP THE PASS DOWN THE MIDDLE PLEASE .
March 16th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Teach, I agree. I would not be surpised if Barnes starts at LT and they move Henderson to RT.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
IT WAS HEAVEN, BUT NOW I’M IN HELL. I HAD TO GOOD OF A TIME PARTYING IN SF. BUTT, I KNEW I SHOULD’NT HAVE LET STEVE YOUNG AND JEFF GARCIA TAKE ME OUT. THERE’S A BIG CHUNK OF THE NIGHT THAT I DON’T REMEMBER. ALL I KNOW IS I WOKE UP IN A DUMPSTER ON POLK STREET, AND MY SEAT HURT REALLY, REALLY BAD! I HAVEN’T FELT THIS WAY SINCE MY DADDY USED TO TAKE ME ON THOSE FATHER/SON CAMPING TRIPS. ODDLY ENOUGH, I DON’T REMEMBER ALLOT OF THOSE EITHER.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Glenn was on the fence during the drama as we all were and Bhp said he was sabotaging the season before anyone! Both sided with Al. Not morons
March 16th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Dez Bryant is freakn legit. Saw him play in person and the dude is a monster. The Raiders will be in the top 5 next year so …….
March 16th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Johhnygirl you are such an idiot if you even bothered to watch the games you comment on Schilens total yards were 76 he got 60 yards on 1 catch!!! and they didn’t score a TD on that drive.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
I once gave Glenn head while he was sitting on a fence during the drama as Bhp said he was so horny he was going to get sloppy seconds.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
8-8, anything below that is unacceptable
March 16th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
The question with Holt is not what has he done — no one would be against signing Holt in his prime — it’s what will he do now? He’s coming off a very mediocre year despite playing with the same QB he’s had for years. He’s getting up in age a little and the Rams obviously have a reason for not wanting him.
I’m not saying it would be a bad signing, but with those question marks I won’t sweat it if he goes elsewhere.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Move Henderson to RT? You know he doesnt run block well rite? Lol moron. Learn the game
March 16th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
I like Miller, good resign Al.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
You went with numbers so did I. You went with stats so did I. You were wrong, Douche. Shut it before I shut it for you.Oh wait, I already did.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
the General is right …
Henderson is a LT.. and Barnes is better off at RT..
March 16th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
You didn’t shut anything you are a moron, the only thing you have done is made everyone dumber for having read your retarded comments.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Move Henderson to Right Testacle? You know he doesnt cum well rite? Lol moron. Learn the trick of the trade.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Brien, You are wrong.
BHP gushed about Kiffin. He compared him to Bill Walsh.
Oakglenn did the same Kiffin’s first year.
They are both experts after the fact.
Yalls is the one and only King.
Yalls has the goods BEFORE it goes down.
Look it up.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
edward teach Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Cracks me up when people quote the part of the press conference that supports their view and totally ignore the part that doesn’t.
The press conference some of you are referring to when you talk about the WR situattion is the same press conference where Al Davis said that Mario Henderson is the Raiders’ left tackle.
In case you haven’t noticed, Khalif Barnes played (started at) left tackle for Jacksonville and one of the main reasons he signed with the Raiders is because he was told he would compete for the starting job there.
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The quotes give insight into what they are thinking. As for Khalif Barnes / Mario Henderson, I bet that both will be starting tackles at season start.
The comments on the receivers is relevant. It shows that Davis believes in those players. To think that the they are going to relegate one or both of them to back of the bench is not consistent with what was said.
If the Raiders were to draft Crabtree or Maclin, then that means that someone (Schilens, JLH, Walker, Shields) becomes irrelevant and inactive on game day.
Don’t see that happening.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
To DEFENSIVE COACHES,Please STOP THE RUN!!!STOP THROWS DOWN THE MIDDLE AND PLAY UPFRONT BE READY TO GET A RUSH WITH HAND UP TO BLOCK VIEW OR INTERSEPT.And be on the QB face in 3sec by the STOPWATCH!
March 16th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
420
walker $ shields are already irrelevant…
JLH is tiny… he should be the 3rd wr…
March 16th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Douche, Douche, Douche,
Just because you are a dillusional, Raiders are going to the Superbowl every year, every Raider draft pick is head to Canton, Al Davis is god Raider fan dont get mad at me. You know squat, leave the library computer, go back to your trailer with the other 15 members of your family and shut your burrito hole.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Yeah, I could NEVER see any of those All Pros on the inactive list! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 16th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
JLH is 2 inches taller than Steve Smith and an inch taller than Santana Moss so can we please stop with the whole him being too small thing.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Oh my. LOL! Arman Shields?? LOL!! S&B, you love toutn players youve NEVER seen play, dont cha?
March 16th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Haha troll! You mean Oakglenn and BHP were optimistic about Kiffin in 07? Wow Im sure many werent lol. Facts are when he acted up they were on the money. Yalls is off alot
March 16th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
170lbs with a wet blanket & a bullit proof vest on…
if he starts he will be hurt alot..
March 16th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Well hell Douche, guess that makes him a giant!! LMAO!
Dude, keep em coming. LOL!!!!!!!!!
March 16th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
steve smiths dikk weighs more than JLH..
March 16th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Men- dont drink seawater ever! It works the brain and will drive you mad.
Rent the Shark week movie about the USS Idianapolis..the same thing happened- exactly the same results.
Some men went to swim for the sunken ship because they wanted ice cream.
Some men saw land. All go mad and dissapear.
RIP
passions like fishing do not override the reality of Mother Nature , its beyond everyone.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Mitch King, DT, Iowa
While I talked with King, I was watching a tape of Iowa against Michigan State. King was getting double-teamed a lot. He talked about his stance, his “get off,” and technique used to win at the line of scrimmage. I felt like I was talking to a coach rather than a player. He doesn’t care where he’s drafted, but he guarantees he will be ready to go a million miles an hour when camp starts.
See on NFL.com
Great guy. He can play Strong DE and UT as well.
Very good back up for Kelly. Looks like the next Justin Tuck
March 16th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Johhnygirl you continue to show your ignorance, cause not once have I backed Al Davis, I merely said your reasons for why they would be out of the league were not only stupid but backed by nothing more than “he is a 7th round draft pick” then you were stupid enough to say that they had their best games when Kwame Harris was in because they had more yards but less impact in the games, anyone with half a brain that watched the games know that weeks 15-17 were by far the best for our WR’s and it coincided w/ Henderson being inserted in the starting line up. You might want to learn how to read and comprehend before you make such ignorant statements.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Brien, If you couldn’t tell Kiffin was a joke halfway through his first season, you don’t know football.
Learn the game, son.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
JohnnyTyler, you mean the same way people were doing M. Bush the 4th rounder last year? Next
March 16th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
good call 432
March 16th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
By the way, BHP compared Kiffin to Bill Walsh AFTER Kiffin’s first season.
Yalls has never been wrong.
You need new role models.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
JohnnyTyler Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Oh my. LOL! Arman Shields?? LOL!! S&B, you love toutn players youve NEVER seen play, dont cha?
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Have you seen Maclin or Crabtree play in the NFL?
The Raiders used a 4th round pick to get this guy. I am quite sure they are going to give him every chance to succeed. Again, if the Raiders bring in Crabtree or Maclin who gets cut?
March 16th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
OK, Brien. You wanted flaws in the current WR corps. Here you go:
Johnnie Lee Higgins is 5-10/185 and returns punts. Injury risk cannot be underestimated.
Since 2005, Javon Walker has missed 31 games due to injury, including 16 in the past two years. His touchdown total since 2005 is nine. Eight of those came in 2006 with Denver.
Arman Shields had a major knee injury in college, and missed the entire year last year with a knee injury. He has not caught a regular-season NFL pass.
Todd Watkins will be entering his third year in the NFL. He, like Shields, has not caught a single regular season pass in the NFL.
Chaz Schilens has played in 16 NFL games, starting 6 of them. In those 6 games he has 15 receptions for 226 yards and two touchdowns.
Jonathan Holland will be entering his third year in the NFL. He, like Watkins and Shields, has yet to catch a regular season pass in the NFL.
Couldn’t find Drew Carter on the roster, but just in case he’s there and I missed him; four major knee operations, two on each knee. Missed the entire regular season in 2008.
We are paying JaMarcus Russell an awful lot of money to be satisfied with this group of receivers, and an objective look at this list should confirm that.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Mike Bush had 2 good games. Hell, start molding his bust for Canton!!!LOL!!!!!!!
March 16th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
my screen name is better than yours.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
To OFFENSIVE COACHES, Please THROW MORE ON 1rst DOWNS and tire them,at the 4th qrt if we are ahead KILL TIME and use your runners wisely and with both arms wrapping the football to prevent a late turnaround stripping!Used our TE like CASPER-REMEMBER!
March 16th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Steve Smith and JLH both weigh 185, Moss is at 200. I listed them to prove that size means nothing. Barry Sanders was too small to be a full time starter in the NFL. It’s a good thing that size and draft position makes it a for sure thing you wont succeed in the NFL.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Kiff was a joke halfway thru his first nfl season? Lol yea that NFL is an easy adjustment eh?
March 16th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Have you ever seen Sheilds play ANYWHERE??
Start the cut list with Watkins, or Holland or Chaz or….
March 16th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
thanx 439…
we NEED a WR… don’t let A.D get you thinkin were ready to win now..
March 16th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
We need to draft a wrecking ball FB in the 5th or 6th… Oren O’neal will never be the same. I think the guys should be:
Brannon Southerland FB Georgia Bulldogs
Height: 6-0. Weight: 242.
Projected 40 Time: 4.58.
Combine 40 Time: 4.70.
Benchx225: 28. Vertical: 38. Broad: 10-0.
Projected Round (2009): 5-6.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Douche,
JLH looks slight when he plays. Hes skinny. Smith and Moss arent. Maybe its the 15 he wheres but he looks skinny on the field.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Sorry to burst your bubble.
Neither one of them know Sh1t.
Yalls is the King.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Oakglenn & BHP BOTH made the whole Davis/Kiffin story out to be a media conspiracy.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
JLH doesn’t weigh 185 just look at him!
165 out of college..
March 16th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Eddy Teach,
Bullseye!! Nice post.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Tony Fiammetta, Syracuse
Height: 6-0. Weight: 245.
Projected 40 Time: 4.65.
Combine 40 Time: 4.63.
Benchx225: 30.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Teach, still saw nothing to prove the doubters right. Tell me flaws in Chaz and JLH since we seen them play. Not one person cites anything from their own eyes
March 16th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
we do not have a WR that would start for ANY other team…
we NEED a STARTER!!
March 16th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
BHP is nothing but a house mouthpiece.
Oakglenn is a hateful little troll.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
BHP is nothing but a house mouthpiece.
Oakglenn is a hateful little troll.”
And KoolKell is the blog bitch
March 16th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
True that KoolKell.
I wasn’t going to bring this up, but now that Kell is here, KoolKell was one of the first posters here to spot Kiffin as a fraud.
Kell knows football.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Yalls doesnt know football at all. He was awful thru the year go look it up
March 16th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Cause looking slight means he can’t play in the NFL, someone better tell Desean Jackson @ 5′10″ 175 lbs he can’t play anymore. Those 62 catches must have been a fluke his rookie season. Just stop typing
March 16th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
we do need anothe FB…
i wish we could have gotten my Bulldog Lorenzo Neal in his prime.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
wait a minute…
i said kiffie sucked the very first post i ever made here…
that was january last year…
and i am proud to say that i don’t believe i have ever said a kind word about him…
well… unless you think calling him “kiffie” is being kind…
March 16th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
MR=Powerless, Friendless, & Overall Inconsequential = KoolKell
Way to pat yourself on the back numbskeezy
March 16th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Oakglenn is probably half the people in here.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
To OFFENSIVE COACHES Please make MORE TRICK PLAYS,REVERSE,SHOVEL PASS,QB TAKE OFF,SCREENS,DOUBLE PUMPS,PLAY ACTION,MAKE MORE OF THE OFFENSE SO WE CAN ENJOY THE RAIDERS MORE!
March 16th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Kell that was a troll as usual if you cant tell
March 16th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
That’s true, Pete. Pete spotted him as well.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
I do agree Kell does know football
March 16th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Jackson had to start.. they wanted him in the slot..
March 16th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Not that I don’t agree, but let me speak for myself troll. I can rip up on Kell any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
If there are no flaws in Chaz’s game why did he not get drafted till round 7? He isnt quick, he runs straight up and down, his routes look uncoordinated, he dznt do anything ahter the catch and he dznt play like a 4′3 guy. He is not a gamebreaker. Period.
JLH is a good 3, I like him there. He is a gamebreaker, but he is too skinny to last as an every down guy and he has mental lapses at times.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Oakglenn is probably half the people in here.”
That must make you the other half you fukkin hypocrite
March 16th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
who gives a fukk about kiffen anymore??
March 16th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Oakglenn & BHP BOTH made the whole Davis/Kiffin story out to be a media conspiracy.
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Actually not true. But of course most of what this imbecile posts is sooooo far in left field that he has no cred. The first thing I said, and it is easily verified, was Ryan was going nowhere. That was true and ended up being true. The second thing I said was spats happen all the time between management, owners and coaches. See Steinbrenner and Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson. That also proved true. I also said Kiff will start the season. That was also proven true. What I didn’t see coming, was Kiffin sabotaging himself and the team. I don’t think anyone saw that coming. As for KoolKell someone should change his diaper. He is starting to smell like sh**.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
post 471 is right..
March 16th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
where’s the fix Jerry?
March 16th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Brien… I don’t have a problem with JLH or Schilens. They are both promising young players. My point is that we are relying an awful lot on them, especially when Higgins returns punts, Schilens has only six starts in his entire career, and absolutey nobody behind them can be counted on.
I don’t care if somebody thinks Crabtree’s the answer or not; it’s what I think we should do, but that’s not the issue. You cannot look at that group of receivers objectively and tell me that it’s a solid group that doesn’t need a pretty big upgrade.
And if JLH is 185 pounds then Steve Smith is 210.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
I love Al.
I’m not Kell.
But I do respect the fact that while most in here had Kiffin as the next Shannahan, Kell didn’t bite on the hype.
Most here did.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Teach still waiting on that analysis. Nothing on jlh except injury risk lol. In football? Never. Schilens numbers tell the full story?
March 16th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
JohnnyTyler Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
If there are no flaws in Chaz’s game why did he not get drafted till round 7?
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James Harrison the AFC Defensive MVP, who made the play of the decade in the Super Bowl to win the game for the Steelers was UNDRAFTED. Do us a favor and STFU, you don’t know what the fook you are saying.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
JohnnyTyler …
get off My boy Chaz.. He was a rookie.. Damn..
March 16th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
MR=Powerless, Friendless, & Overall Inconsequential Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
I love Al.
I’m not Kell.
But I do respect the fact that while most in here had Kiffin as the next Shannahan, Kell didn’t bite on the hype.
Most here did.”
I call bullsh1t son. YOU ARE KOOLKEEL AND WE ALL KNOW IT!
March 16th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
I’m a lil poseur that does nuthin but smoke rox all day and twist my nappy hare into dreads
March 16th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Oakglenn, You were in love with Kiffin his first year.
Are you denying it?
March 16th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
CABLE, PLEASE NO MORE PENALTIES! Start by addressing the team,Fines will be given,if it continues we will bench you ! SIMPLE, DICIPLINE FIRST.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Schilens had like 6 starts…nothin..no double teams for his blazing speed.. or superb hands.
he’s a project… like all the rest of ALs WRs since Tim Brown & Jerry Rice left..
March 16th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
STFU KoolKell
March 16th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
MR=Powerless, Friendless, & Overall Inconsequential Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Oakglenn did the same Kiffin’s first year
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I’ve got five thousand posts about kiffin in here. Why don’t you show me where I said that. Until then, you are a liar. Sorry. I said Kiffin was in over his head. He single handedly cost us the first game. I hoped he would grow into the job. Everyone in the organization hoped the same thing. He didn’t grow at all. He sulked like a baby girl.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
draft Crabtree ballance the O..
March 16th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Leave OG alone, he is THE KING
Suk his cok KoolKell and have the stones to post under KoolKell and none of these several other names that you use.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
This will be the 3rd year in a row I jump onto COW’s wagon.
Here is who I would like to see in Silver and Black.
BJ RAJI, DT, BOSTON COLLEGE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UQ2YGE9SLM&feature=related
EVERETTE BROWN, DE, FLORIDA STATE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=qXJJ14HL5EE
DARIUS HEYWARD-BEY, WR, MARYLAND
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyjaBWuo4zA
PATRICK CHUNG, S, OREGON
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_37qMvwSMwo
March 16th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
# MR=Powerless, Friendless, & Overall Inconsequential Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Oakglenn, You were in love with Kiffin his first year.
Are you denying it?
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Go find the posts. I am sure they are still there. I hoped he would grow into the job. We all did. He didn’t.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
why is that so hard for you drooling retards to comprehend….Arman Shields is next years Bush.
It happened with Bush why cant it happen with Shields.
Crabtree is brittle he broke his foot rubbing one out while watching Broke Back Mountain. He is soft like LT soft soft soft soft soft.
All you idiots do all day is whine and complain about other posters and their opinions like your some kind of expert blogger and that is something to be proud of?
No Thanks I am glad that I am not in accepted in your nerdy little group of dungeons and dragon playing geeks.
Please do continue to hate on me.
Brien is on Scholarship he can say and do what he wants, you tards couldn’t hold his jock
March 16th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Tyler doesnt watch the games at all. Chaz is the only guy that makes excellent breaks out of catching the ball on an out route
March 16th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Add MACK/ UNGER after Raji.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Brien… You asked for flaws in the WR corps, you got ‘em.
Denying they exist doesn’t make them go away.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
BJ RAJI, DT, BOSTON COLLEGE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UQ2YGE9SLM&feature=related
MACK/ UNGER, C (In trade up)
EVERETTE BROWN, DE, FLORIDA STATE ( If no Raji in trade down)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=qXJJ14HL5EE
DARIUS HEYWARD-BEY, WR, MARYLAND
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyjaBWuo4zA
PATRICK CHUNG, S, OREGON
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_37qMvwSMwo
March 16th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
KoolKell don’t know sh1t about football and whoever trolled as me and said otherwise can eat a dik
March 16th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
492…Shields??? Bush???
like George W. Bush???
March 16th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Finally reported, but not verified by the Raiders themselves. Something weird is gonna happen.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
The only guy who called out Kiffin was “Fire Kiffin”. He thought Kiffin sucked from BEFORE day one. With regards to that fiasco only “Fire Kiffin” gets any cred.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Double teams for our wr when the oline couldnt block for an inaccurate rookie qb? My god you people are nuts!
March 16th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Oak, I happen to know for a fact when certain posters questioned Kiffin’s game management, loyalty and overall maturity, you attacked them and claimed they must be fans of other teams. You defended that little scumbag.
True or false?
If you want me to make you look stupid, I’ll be happy to.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
I would even take ROBISKI’s KID (because of his route running and decent speed in the 3rd)
March 16th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
S&B666,
You’re complaining about what other people are complaining about other people complaining??
What a minute….I just got dizzy.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Chaz will make a fine #2 SOMEDAY..
March 16th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
KoolKell couldn’t find his wrinkly ass with a four foot long supository. If he was right once, he was wrong 6,456,872 other times. And that’s just in the last 6 or 7 days.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
The Real Oakglenn Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
The only guy who called out Kiffin was “Fire Kiffin”. He thought Kiffin sucked from BEFORE day one. With regards to that fiasco only “Fire Kiffin” gets any cred.”
Well said my King.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
Teach you didnt say them! Injury risk and obvious skewed stats!NO YOU DIDNT
March 16th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
The Real Oakglenn Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
KoolKell couldn’t find his wrinkly ass with a four foot long supository. If he was right once, he was wrong 6,456,872 other times. And that’s just in the last 6 or 7 days.”
PREACH!!!
March 16th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
That is too broad a statement. And you would have to make sure that was me posting. Most likely it was you yourself trolling as me.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
everyone official
http://www.raiders.com/Team/Default.aspx?id=152
March 16th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
who cares about kiffin?
anybody could coach this team…
Its A.Ds show..
March 16th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
How many times were higgins and chaz thrown to? How many times was Russel under diress? How many times did we run screens and checkdowns? Answers please
March 16th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
BTW,…. F you guys. I’m out..
March 16th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
That’s the problem with an unregistered blog where lots of people like yourself try to discredit others. No one really knows who is posting and what is said. So going back thru the archives is useless. But one does have to be suspect of someone who comes in here professing to know everything about all of us using a name no one recognizes. Seems gutless shallow and cowardly to me frankly.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Franchise in turmoil and all you guys can do is go to stats as if its gives the true story. Pitiful!
March 16th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Brien the General of the Army Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
How many times were higgins and chaz thrown to? How many times was Russel under diress? How many times did we run screens and checkdowns? Answers please
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lil poseur, please stop pretending to know what you are talking about. Go smoke some more crack son.
BTW the word is “DURESS” you moron.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Brien the General of the army Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
The Real Oakglenn Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
The only guy who called out Kiffin was “Fire Kiffin”. He thought Kiffin sucked from BEFORE day one. With regards to that fiasco only “Fire Kiffin” gets any cred.”
Well said my King.
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i’ll go for that…
FIRE KIFFIN was about the only friend i had in here at first…
March 16th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
glad to hear we re-signed miller, not too high on joseph, still need to explore more options at nt, tank was a good one in chicago in the 4-3 , could come cheap, too
March 16th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
The Real Oakglenn Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
That’s the problem with an unregistered blog where lots of people like yourself try to discredit others. No one really knows who is posting and what is said. So going back thru the archives is useless. But one does have to be suspect of someone who comes in here professing to know everything about all of us using a name no one recognizes. Seems gutless shallow and cowardly to me frankly.”
THE KING HAS SPOKEN
March 16th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Oakglenn that guy is gutless and clueless. He pays homage to MR. Lets you know how awful he is
March 16th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
That guy is a phaggot
March 16th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
STFU KoolKell beeiiii itch
March 16th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
#510, no cris johnson though
March 16th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Brien… the injury risks are real, especially for players that have been hurt before. Not sure why you think that isn’t true…
As far as the “skewed stats” goes, I don’t even know what you’re talking about. Schilens’ stats are accurate, as are Holland’s, Watkins’ and Shields’. Walker’s totals are accurate, too. Everything I posted is on NFL.com; if you disagree feel free to look it all up yourself.
Again, just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it untrue.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Kell is this a spelling bee? Is the cameras on from espn yet? I hope I dont pass out like that one kid lol
March 16th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Lol teach, everyone is an injury risk! When has jlh been injured. Stats are lame. Scroll up and read my posts again! They never tell the real story!
March 16th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Als’ sagging lower jaw
#497
You seriously don’t know a RB we have on our team named Micheal Bush that was basically red shirted or hurt his first year(like Shields)
W is gone man let it go!
March 16th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
#522 I agree 100%
That guy does need to shut his pie hole.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
# edward teach Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Brien… I don’t have a problem with JLH or Schilens. They are both promising young players. My point is that we are relying an awful lot on them, especially when Higgins returns punts, Schilens has only six starts in his entire career, and absolutey nobody behind them can be counted on.
I don’t care if somebody thinks Crabtree’s the answer or not; it’s what I think we should do, but that’s not the issue. You cannot look at that group of receivers objectively and tell me that it’s a solid group that doesn’t need a pretty big upgrade.
And if JLH is 185 pounds then Steve Smith is 210.
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What I wrote earlier today was this group improved as the season went on. The problem seemed to be Ron Curry. Once Curry was benched and Higgins, Watkins and Shilins started playing the passing game improved. That’s all you can hope for. Adding Arman Shields and hopefully a healthy and motivated “Jivin” and that might not be a bad receiving corp. Once Jamarcus seemed to think his blindside was somewhat being protected he played better as well.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
I’ll say this though. I may be older than most of you, I was there at Frank Youell Field in 64′ I had season tickets when the Coliseum opened in 66′, I was at the Heidi game in 68′
But I’m not some punk-assed know it all Kid. (Brien)
March 16th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Lol kell all my people were at them games too!
March 16th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Brien the General of the Army Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Lol teach, everyone is an injury risk! When has jlh been injured.
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Brien is exactly right. Look at Darren Sproales or DeSean Jackson or Walter Payton for that matter. Those guys are tiny, Payton was not that big and they are not injured out there. Shockey is a big guy. He can’t stay on the field. It’s not size at all, it’s the propensity for injury.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
As I said days ago Kell Im done insulting because I struck you hard and constantly. Its been so bad to the point you are relegated towards hateful posts time and time again.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Well, I guess if we’re going to throw facts out the window when we’re debating something then it’s not really worth debating anymore.
Have fun posturing tonight, Brien. I’m out.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Looks like trolly troll went to find my statements. Since I’ve posted 5 billion times on this site, it shouldn’t be too hard to find one. See yall’s later.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
I ask Craptree lovers, why do you overlook the fact he doesnt line up in 2wr sets. Im much more impressed with wr who make plays under those circumstances
March 16th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Teach you never sited analysis on jlh and chaz flaws. You forgot what you posted?
March 16th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
Cited*
March 16th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
I’ll say this though. I may be older than most of you, I was there at Frank Youell Field in 64′ I had season tickets when the Coliseum opened in 66′, I was at the Heidi game in 68′
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Getting chased away from the fence at Youell Field, or escorted out of the Coliseum Parking lot with bootleg sh**, or being asleep on your couch while your neighbors were jumping up and downnyelling, is not going to games.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Well its been fun as usual. Im gone. Stay solid
March 16th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Scholarship deal with it
March 16th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Lol Real Raider Fans
March 16th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
No updates on the day one practices ???
WTF?
March 16th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
666, they still cant handle me lol. No facts ever stated. Oakglenn and BHP are in a dual monarchy. It would be a triumvirate if Kell wasnt so bitter
March 16th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Aw Jheezel is back? CANT LEAVE YET! Sup playa?
March 16th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
J, jerry wasnt allowed prolly
March 16th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Just got back from picking up the little one …
Thought there would be something for us to talk about after day 1 of the off season workouts, but I can’t find shyt, dogg!
Wassup with you?
Thanks for taking the baton earlier for me. I was slappin fools around all day, but I had to bounce.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
What do you think about Morris at C?
Any chance this dude is a diamond in the rough? I really didn’t know squat about him. Then I checked out his pre draft workouts and they were pretty impressive. 33 reps on the bench, and a 5.2 forty. nice other measurables and he was the 7th ranked C coming out of college.
Never paid the guy any attention. Any chance he’s the reason we haven’t signed anyone else, and let Grove walk for nothing?
March 16th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Guys would ya really wanna waste 20 mil on a guy who comes from a spread O? 4 and 5 wr sets impress you?
March 16th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
JLH, Schilens, Walker and Shields = potential.
Some or all (or none) of them could be great this year. Not one sure thing on that list at WR. You can be optimistic, as most fans are, that they will all shine but you can’t objectively say the WR position is locked down right now.
The rumor that the Raiders told Barnes they wouldn’t draft an OT, presumably at No. 7 only, is fine with me. If the Raiders did that it’s only because they had no intention of going OT there in the first place. They wouldn’t change their plans for Barnes and Cable likes to brag about how he doesn’t need top-of-the-draft linemen for his system. Combine that with the fact all 4 DTs from last season are still around and it means my favored group of possible 1st round picks — Crabtree, Maclin, Maualuga — is looking pretty likely right now.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
S&B,
Scott played some base DE last year. May have been in passing situations, I’m not quite sure. But I know he was on that side. At 6′5, I can see him carrying 275 with no problem. I’m sure dude is, and will be in the weight room. I like the idea of him playing over there, and Gunhiem backing him up.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Jhill yea slap happy posts all day! Morris? It depends on Cable. I envision a rookie center
March 16th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Guys would ya really wanna spread your O for me? I sure would appreciate it.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Just Win Baby.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Maualuga would be great cuz raiders lack a real beast
March 16th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Guys would ya really wanna waste 20 mil on a guy who comes from a spread O? 4 and 5 wr sets impress you?
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I don’t really want to rule him out simply because he played in that offense. The QB, maybe, but not necessarily the WR. I would not have a problem with Crabtree, JLH, and Schillens, as my core WRs. If Shields develops into something, even better. But replacing Lelie and Curry with Crabtree is not a bad thing. If it gets to that, I’m sure he would’ve passed all the test that Cable and Al want.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Brien the General Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Teach you never sited analysis on jlh and chaz flaws. You forgot what you posted?
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JLH:Struggles in press, lacks consistent seperation, blocking and blew assignmnets early on, limited route tree.
Schilens: Doesn’t always make the best use of strength, eager blocker, but lacks consistent techinique / leverage, run after catch, bananas routes, mental errors.
All things that can be addressed and excused because they’re green and young, but the juries still out on whether they can can continue to grow and be consistent viable starters and targets for Oakland.
The emergence of a true #1 WR would help them, as would better line blocking and footwork fundamentals for Russell.
No, I’m not a fan of Crabtree at 7 overall…
March 16th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Watching T. Scott last year reminded me a little of Jared Allen. Great burst off the line, high motor d-end. That would be huge if Scott could develop into a player of J. Allen’s caliber. Allen is listed at 6-6, 270; Scott at 6-5, 258. Not an enormous difference. If Scott can carry a little more weight he could be the steal of the 2008 draft.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Chris, I believe it points to trade down this year. Seriously
March 16th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
We’ve got a potentially awesome receiver already.
DARREN MCFADDEN…
How the Raiders use this weapon to spread the field and create mismatches will help the entire O and keep defenses off guard.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
I think Mauluga is definitely in play at 7 since Marshall like to take a DT off the field on 3rd down instead of a LB.
Mauluga played in the pass first Pac 10, so this nonsense about him not being able to play the pass is ridiculous. He would have been a top 5 pick if he came out last year, and now he’s falling victim to the over analysis that a lot of high ranking returning seniors go through.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
No seriously, I am a homosexual.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Brien the General Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Chris, I believe it points to trade down this year. Seriously
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This year at 7, I’m not opposed…
March 16th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
559 I agree.
Fire Kiffin…I owe you an apology. You were right all along!
March 16th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
We’ve got a potentially awesome receiver already.
DARREN MCFADDEN…
How the Raiders use this weapon to spread the field and create mismatches will help the entire O and keep defenses off guard.
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Say it again for the slow folks, dogg!
March 16th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Oh brother, not this crap again!
PLEASE leave McFadden out of this. We need an actual #1 receiver. JaMarcus needs a true #1 receiver. Draft or not!
March 16th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
KoolKell, you’re so old you make me look 20.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Thank you Nnamdi! Finally someone gives accurate analysis of JLH and Chaz. They got flaws but as year went on obvious improvement was seen
March 16th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
JHill (Let the Young Guys Play) Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
I think Mauluga is definitely in play at 7 since Marshall like to take a DT off the field on 3rd down instead of a LB.
Mauluga played in the pass first Pac 10, so this nonsense about him not being able to play the pass is ridiculous. He would have been a top 5 pick if he came out last year, and now he’s falling victim to the over analysis that a lot of high ranking returning seniors go through.
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Everyone pretty much conceedes he struggles in space and has trouble in coverage on occasion. Not elite speed and likely a better 3-4 than 4-3.
Has had some minor disciplinary problems and an assault off the field in 05.
Takes bad angles on occasion, looks for knock out blow and misses tackles sometimes.
Could develop into a good pro level MLB, but not the be all end all he hyped to be and theres another kid that played along side him that made him look pretty good named Brian Cushing…
No way he goes top 7.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Dmac is a weapon but not a numbe 1 wr
March 16th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
It is what it is Saint …
Is Sproles a weapon in San Diego’s passing game?
Why is it a problem for DMac to get 5 or 6 looks out of the backfield. That is a mismatch waiting to happen.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
SaintKaufman Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Oh brother, not this crap again!
PLEASE leave McFadden out of this. We need an actual #1 receiver. JaMarcus needs a true #1 receiver. Draft or not!
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Agreed.
But is that true #1 Michael Crabtree?
I don’t think so…
March 16th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
we need to face facts here, JR won’t have a #1 WR this season. Even IF (empasized) Crabtree truly has #1 potential, it won’t show up this year. It’s also very likely that he’ll be gone by the time we pick. i’m already coming to grips with it. Thus I say we draft best player available with exception to QB and RB. The damn shame here is that the best values in the 1st round are RB’s and we don’t need one.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Rey gives us the toughness we need in the middle
March 16th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
572. Don’t get me wrong, in the right system and with development, Crab could be golden, but I’m not sure tha place is Oakland and not for the moeny we’d have to shell out.
He could be a devastating weapon if used properly and allowed to develop…
March 16th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
573. Who knows?
Could go to Rams or even KC…
March 16th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Peace!~
March 16th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Assassin I agree! Great post
March 16th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Well that makes you one of the few Brien.
Nnamdi – I must have not made sense in my 573 post, I’m suggesting the Crabtree may not even be there when we pick at 7.
March 16th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
I absolutely like seeing McFadden getting 5 or 6 looks out of the backfield. esp on LB’s.
Assassins got it right. I think Crabtree is an amazing talent, catches EVERYTHING that I’ve seen thrown to him. Don’t need great speed to get open, but you do need to catch the damn ball when it’s your turn!! But he will not light it up his first year. Getting Bowe-like #’s would be awesome!
I have hoped for DLine help for so long that I have givin it up. So I say draft you’re future #1 receiver and bring in a vet to show these guys how to do it. Holt would be well worth the dollars if we could get him for 2 years.
March 16th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Everyone pretty much conceedes he struggles in space and has trouble in coverage on occasion. Not elite speed and likely a better 3-4 than 4-3.
Has had some minor disciplinary problems and an assault off the field in 05.
Takes bad angles on occasion, looks for knock out blow and misses tackles sometimes.
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What LB doesn’t have trouble in coverage “on occasion”?
Likely a better 3-4 than 4-3? I haven’t heard that one time.
Like I said, he would have been a top 5 pick last year without question, or at least the first LB taken. This year, especially with the hammy, it could be a different story. But with Al, you never know. I probably should have said that LB is in play at 7, and that Rey Rey is one of many possibilities. Even more likely if we trade down a few spots. If he gets his hammy right and runs in the low 4.6 range at his pro day, then we’ll see. I can’t see him slipping out of the top 156 regardless.
March 16th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Raiders bout to have an offense that consists of vertical routes. Craptree wont fit
March 16th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Is it possibly that the raiders could use a 3-4 Defence
March 16th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Trade down. That uncapped year is happening in 2010! Al knows finances. For once he isnt just doing shyt for the hell of it
March 16th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
If that’s true Brien then this discussion would shift to us needing Darius Heywood Bey. Which would be a great discussion because it would clarify what some of us are thinking…under no circumstance should we take a WR at #7 unless he’s built like Larry Fitzgerald, runs like Fitzgerald, and has the college production like Fitzgerald. We undoubtedly need a true #1, but one doesn’t exist in this draft. I actually think (and who the hell am I) that Hakeem Nicks has the best overal potential. Had he not been hurt last season he would receive the same hype Crabtree’s getting.
March 16th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
That’s the thing about our offense. I can’t see any WR coming in here and getting 8-10 catches a game for 125-200yds and a TD or 2. Our offense is just not design like that. Bush and McFadden are going to get 30 carries between them. How many completions do you expect from Russell each game? I say realistically 18-20 completions on 30 attempts or less is what we are looking at. And I think 30 attempts is stretching it. I see 10 of those completions going to Dmac, Bush, and Miller. That leaves 10 balls for the WRs combined.
Right or Wrong folks?
March 16th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Is it difficult to catch passes from Graham Harrell in a 5 wr offense? WR screens were half his receptions
March 16th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
I’m disappointed in all of you. There’s been discussion about Chris Morris’ combine workout and pre-draft notes. Not one person in here mentioned that he was the smartest person in the draft (highest wonderlic score). He also led the rookie group of Raider draft picks that year to the intelligence challenge and won at the rookie symposium. Whoops, this still doesn’t make him a good Center.
March 16th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Right Jhill
March 16th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
I don’t know Assasin …
I think while DHB certainly fits the “mold” that everyone thinks Al likes, I would be disappointed to see one of these 2nd tier (for lack of a better phrase) guys come in before we see what we have in last years guys. I think we all like JLH as a #2 option, but it’s way too early to throw in the towel on LAST YEAR’s draft picks for non top level blue chip guys that can be had in the 2nd round. Everyone acknowledges that we are not quite a playoff team yet, so why can’t we just play the young guys to see what we have? Again I say it’s not like JLH and Schillens didn’t perform when they got the chance.
March 16th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
JHill,
At number 7 it is clear that Rey Mauluaga will definitely be on the board. IF Raji is on the board, you really think the Raiders REACH to take a 2-down linebacker over Raji?
Do you think Terdell Sands and William Joseph are locks for this roster?
The Raiders will take Michael Crabtree before they take Mauluaga at #7
Goodell: With the seventh pick the Oakland Raiders select……..
March 16th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Morris I see as a backup only. Getting Mack is whats best
March 16th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
586 – Bravo! I didn’t know how to put that scenario into words like you did. That’s perfect. I think your hidden message is “who cares if we have a number one WR” we just need guys that can keep the defenses honest and make an occasional play or two (JLH, Schilens).
Tommy Trojan projected the Raiders to draft Ramses Barden out of Cal Poly the other night and I totally agree. What we need is a bigger threat in the red zone. We move the chains on the ground and in the air with the TE. What we suck at is actually scoring via the pass. Barden is huge, great hands, great value because he’ll be drafted no earlier than the 5th round. Same can be said about Patrick Turner from USC. I’ll take either one late in the draft.
March 16th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
LOL,
Someone did actually mention Morris’s wonderlic scores.
I don’t care what anyone says about the guy. I hoping for the best.
And again, he’s leading McFadden and Fargas out on the field in the NFL Network DMac commercial. That’s got to mean something, LOL!
March 16th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
JHill,
You could be right with your Chris Morris assessment. Only problem is I don’t think he’s above Wade on the depth chart.
Things could change.
March 16th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Morris’s … LOL!
Sorry about that! Typing too fast.
March 16th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Raji wont play for Raiders
March 16th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Jhill – I agree. I’m not suggesting we even draft DHB. I’m just agreeing with you when you say the Raider Offense will be vertical. In that case, we should be looking at WR’s like DHB and not Crabtree. Either way, I’m not interested in DHB. Just trying to prove a point.
March 16th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Brien the General Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Raji wont play for Raiders
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Only if Cincy or Seattle takes him 1st.
March 16th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
At number 7 it is clear that Rey Mauluaga will definitely be on the board. IF Raji is on the board, you really think the Raiders REACH to take a 2-down linebacker over Raji?
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Hmmmm … Instead of a 2 down DT? I don’t think either of them will be the pick, honestly.
Marshall takes out a DT on passing downs, and Kelly is NOT coming off the field.
March 16th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Those commercials worry me. I see Reggie Bush touted in a lot of commercials too. Not a good sign.
March 16th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
JHill (Let the Young Guys Play) Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
At number 7 it is clear that Rey Mauluaga will definitely be on the board. IF Raji is on the board, you really think the Raiders REACH to take a 2-down linebacker over Raji?
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Hmmmm … Instead of a 2 down DT? I don’t think either of them will be the pick, honestly.
Marshall takes out a DT on passing downs, and Kelly is NOT coming off the field.
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What does he do, go to a 3-4 on passing downs?
March 16th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Ramses Barden is on a few teams radar. Doubt we get him
March 16th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Raji isnt tall enuff for Al. Why the fuk would he draft a DT that high who is a pass rushing DT like Kelly. I actually watch ncaa games and saw Brace as the NT
March 16th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
i dont think we should get craptree
March 16th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
S&B,
You apply Raider logic to everything but your Raji analysis. Your only reasoning for Raji is YOUR belief that our DTs are a problem. You haven’t backed that up with one single Raider post season transaction, or clue from the organization that they are in the market for a DT. What else do you have other than YOU think Sands and Joseph COULD be camp cuts?
You use Davis’ words to say we won’t draft a WR. The OT signings say we won’t draft an OT. Let all the guys we currently have play before we draft any other position. You recognize we need a DE since Edwards was cut and Burgess is on his way out. You need to apply the same thinking to the DT position and get off of Raji so tough. Brace, Hood, or Moala, would also help the team man, Cmon!
March 16th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Brien the General Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Raji isnt tall enuff for Al. Why the fuk would he draft a DT that high who is a pass rushing DT like Kelly. I actually watch ncaa games and saw Brace as the NT
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This whole Al Davis height requirement is hearsay and can’t be verified. However, we do know that 6-1 or less DTs have been on the starting roster before (Jerry Ball) for example.
I saw the clips and read quotes and Raji’s versatility is the reason he is such a high pick. He is an NT in that he takes on multiple blockers, but has the penetration ability of a 1-gap DT. Let me repeat: Raji is an NT!
As for Brace, he is a talent as well, but it was Raji that took on most of the double teams
March 16th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
What does he do, go to a 3-4 on passing downs?
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3-3-5
March 16th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
we have TOMMY KELLY!!! the (best DT in the league) why would we need Raji?
March 16th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
wht arn’t we trying to trade for J Peppers???
if the Pats land him for a #2 pic i’m gonna shat!
March 16th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Tom Cable did call out the play of the DTs in the press and I have posted that before.
If you are willing to invest a high 2nd round pick for Brace etc…then you yourself are acknowledging a need.
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That’s why I said post season moves. Not Cable talking about the Dline after one bad game.
And I’ve said all along that we needed a 4th DT, but that was before we signed Joseph. Having Wakefield in the mix last year as the 4th DT was a travesty. And I do realize that this could be Sands or Warrens last year as their contracts are coming up, so year a DT in the 2nd made sense. Since we signed Joseph, I no longer think that is the case.
I’d be more than happy with
Rd 1 DE
Rd 2 C
Rd 3 OLB
Rd 4 S
Rd 6 LB/ST
Rd 7 LB/ST
I say that with the intent on seeing what we have this year at DT, WR, and OT. Any of those positions not living up to par would be my focus of next year’s draft.
Cant fix it all this year, but I need to see what I have already. I think the DT play improves drastically with the DE talent being upgraded.
March 16th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
It does seem like we need to get the FA ball rolling. So far I would say the best move was dropping that POS of a corner in D. Hall. The worst would be letting Wilson walk.
I’m sure Al has counted all of his pennies and knows where we stand, which I would believe is WELL under the cap. Time to pull the trigger big guy!! Uncapped year on the way is going to make it tougher to get FA’s. Call Torry!
March 16th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Heres one for you ladies….
Phone rings “ring ring ring”
Hello
Hey Al this is Pat Bowlen, how r you. Hey about we swap QBs. Straight across. Cutler for Russell.
You are Al. You say…….
If I was the old man I wouldnt even allow him to finish the sentence. I would say “Done!” so fast his head would spin.
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