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Raiders re-sign Justin Miller, William Joseph

A couple of familiar faces unexpectedly showed up at Raiders headquarters in Alameda Monday morning for the first day of offseason workouts.
Although the team has not announced it, the Raiders have re-signed former Pro Bowl kick returner Justin Miller and defensive tackle William Joseph, which was reported by the San Francisco Chronicle.
With Johnnie Lee Higgins returning punts and Miller back deep for kickoffs, the Raiders had one of the more dangerous return tandems in the league in 2008.
Look for more details on the Miller and Joseph signings to come from Jerry McDonald.

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  • http://none FIREKIFFIN

    Just Win Baby.

  • Brien the General

    Maualuga would be great cuz raiders lack a real beast

  • JHill (Let the Young Guys Play)

    Guys would ya really wanna waste 20 mil on a guy who comes from a spread O? 4 and 5 wr sets impress you?

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    I don’t really want to rule him out simply because he played in that offense. The QB, maybe, but not necessarily the WR. I would not have a problem with Crabtree, JLH, and Schillens, as my core WRs. If Shields develops into something, even better. But replacing Lelie and Curry with Crabtree is not a bad thing. If it gets to that, I’m sure he would’ve passed all the test that Cable and Al want.

  • Nnamdi21

    Brien the General Says:
    March 16th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
    Teach you never sited analysis on jlh and chaz flaws. You forgot what you posted?

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    JLH:Struggles in press, lacks consistent seperation, blocking and blew assignmnets early on, limited route tree.

    Schilens: Doesn’t always make the best use of strength, eager blocker, but lacks consistent techinique / leverage, run after catch, bananas routes, mental errors.

    All things that can be addressed and excused because they’re green and young, but the juries still out on whether they can can continue to grow and be consistent viable starters and targets for Oakland.

    The emergence of a true #1 WR would help them, as would better line blocking and footwork fundamentals for Russell.

    No, I’m not a fan of Crabtree at 7 overall…

  • Chris in NY

    Watching T. Scott last year reminded me a little of Jared Allen. Great burst off the line, high motor d-end. That would be huge if Scott could develop into a player of J. Allen’s caliber. Allen is listed at 6-6, 270; Scott at 6-5, 258. Not an enormous difference. If Scott can carry a little more weight he could be the steal of the 2008 draft.

  • Brien the General

    Chris, I believe it points to trade down this year. Seriously

  • Nnamdi21

    We’ve got a potentially awesome receiver already.

    DARREN MCFADDEN…

    How the Raiders use this weapon to spread the field and create mismatches will help the entire O and keep defenses off guard.

  • JHill (Let the Young Guys Play)

    I think Mauluga is definitely in play at 7 since Marshall like to take a DT off the field on 3rd down instead of a LB.

    Mauluga played in the pass first Pac 10, so this nonsense about him not being able to play the pass is ridiculous. He would have been a top 5 pick if he came out last year, and now he’s falling victim to the over analysis that a lot of high ranking returning seniors go through.

  • Brien The General

    No seriously, I am a homosexual.

  • Nnamdi21

    Brien the General Says:
    March 16th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
    Chris, I believe it points to trade down this year. Seriously

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    This year at 7, I’m not opposed…

  • Raider guy

    559 I agree.
    Fire Kiffin…I owe you an apology. You were right all along!

  • JHill (Let the Young Guys Play)

    We’ve got a potentially awesome receiver already.

    DARREN MCFADDEN…

    How the Raiders use this weapon to spread the field and create mismatches will help the entire O and keep defenses off guard.

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    Say it again for the slow folks, dogg!

  • SaintKaufman

    Oh brother, not this crap again!

    PLEASE leave McFadden out of this. We need an actual #1 receiver. JaMarcus needs a true #1 receiver. Draft or not!

  • AL DAVIS

    KoolKell, you’re so old you make me look 20.

  • Brien the General

    Thank you Nnamdi! Finally someone gives accurate analysis of JLH and Chaz. They got flaws but as year went on obvious improvement was seen

  • Nnamdi21

    JHill (Let the Young Guys Play) Says:
    March 16th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
    I think Mauluga is definitely in play at 7 since Marshall like to take a DT off the field on 3rd down instead of a LB.

    Mauluga played in the pass first Pac 10, so this nonsense about him not being able to play the pass is ridiculous. He would have been a top 5 pick if he came out last year, and now he’s falling victim to the over analysis that a lot of high ranking returning seniors go through.

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    Everyone pretty much conceedes he struggles in space and has trouble in coverage on occasion. Not elite speed and likely a better 3-4 than 4-3.

    Has had some minor disciplinary problems and an assault off the field in 05.

    Takes bad angles on occasion, looks for knock out blow and misses tackles sometimes.

    Could develop into a good pro level MLB, but not the be all end all he hyped to be and theres another kid that played along side him that made him look pretty good named Brian Cushing…

    No way he goes top 7.

  • Brien the General

    Dmac is a weapon but not a numbe 1 wr

  • JHill (Let the Young Guys Play)

    It is what it is Saint …

    Is Sproles a weapon in San Diego’s passing game?

    Why is it a problem for DMac to get 5 or 6 looks out of the backfield. That is a mismatch waiting to happen.

  • Nnamdi21

    SaintKaufman Says:
    March 16th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
    Oh brother, not this crap again!

    PLEASE leave McFadden out of this. We need an actual #1 receiver. JaMarcus needs a true #1 receiver. Draft or not!

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    Agreed.

    But is that true #1 Michael Crabtree?

    I don’t think so…

  • They Call Me Assassin

    we need to face facts here, JR won’t have a #1 WR this season. Even IF (empasized) Crabtree truly has #1 potential, it won’t show up this year. It’s also very likely that he’ll be gone by the time we pick. i’m already coming to grips with it. Thus I say we draft best player available with exception to QB and RB. The damn shame here is that the best values in the 1st round are RB’s and we don’t need one.

  • Brien the General

    Rey gives us the toughness we need in the middle

  • Nnamdi21

    572. Don’t get me wrong, in the right system and with development, Crab could be golden, but I’m not sure tha place is Oakland and not for the moeny we’d have to shell out.

    He could be a devastating weapon if used properly and allowed to develop…

  • Nnamdi21

    573. Who knows?

    Could go to Rams or even KC…

  • Nnamdi21

    Peace!~

  • Brien the General

    Assassin I agree! Great post

  • They Call Me Assassin

    Well that makes you one of the few Brien.

    Nnamdi – I must have not made sense in my 573 post, I’m suggesting the Crabtree may not even be there when we pick at 7.

  • SaintKaufman

    I absolutely like seeing McFadden getting 5 or 6 looks out of the backfield. esp on LB’s.

    Assassins got it right. I think Crabtree is an amazing talent, catches EVERYTHING that I’ve seen thrown to him. Don’t need great speed to get open, but you do need to catch the damn ball when it’s your turn!! But he will not light it up his first year. Getting Bowe-like #’s would be awesome!

    I have hoped for DLine help for so long that I have givin it up. So I say draft you’re future #1 receiver and bring in a vet to show these guys how to do it. Holt would be well worth the dollars if we could get him for 2 years.

  • JHill (Let the Young Guys Play)

    Everyone pretty much conceedes he struggles in space and has trouble in coverage on occasion. Not elite speed and likely a better 3-4 than 4-3.

    Has had some minor disciplinary problems and an assault off the field in 05.

    Takes bad angles on occasion, looks for knock out blow and misses tackles sometimes.

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    What LB doesn’t have trouble in coverage “on occasion”?

    Likely a better 3-4 than 4-3? I haven’t heard that one time.

    Like I said, he would have been a top 5 pick last year without question, or at least the first LB taken. This year, especially with the hammy, it could be a different story. But with Al, you never know. I probably should have said that LB is in play at 7, and that Rey Rey is one of many possibilities. Even more likely if we trade down a few spots. If he gets his hammy right and runs in the low 4.6 range at his pro day, then we’ll see. I can’t see him slipping out of the top 156 regardless.

  • Brien the General

    Raiders bout to have an offense that consists of vertical routes. Craptree wont fit

  • darkside

    Is it possibly that the raiders could use a 3-4 Defence

  • Brien the General

    Trade down. That uncapped year is happening in 2010! Al knows finances. For once he isnt just doing shyt for the hell of it

  • They Call Me Assassin

    If that’s true Brien then this discussion would shift to us needing Darius Heywood Bey. Which would be a great discussion because it would clarify what some of us are thinking…under no circumstance should we take a WR at #7 unless he’s built like Larry Fitzgerald, runs like Fitzgerald, and has the college production like Fitzgerald. We undoubtedly need a true #1, but one doesn’t exist in this draft. I actually think (and who the hell am I) that Hakeem Nicks has the best overal potential. Had he not been hurt last season he would receive the same hype Crabtree’s getting.

  • JHill (Let the Young Guys Play)

    That’s the thing about our offense. I can’t see any WR coming in here and getting 8-10 catches a game for 125-200yds and a TD or 2. Our offense is just not design like that. Bush and McFadden are going to get 30 carries between them. How many completions do you expect from Russell each game? I say realistically 18-20 completions on 30 attempts or less is what we are looking at. And I think 30 attempts is stretching it. I see 10 of those completions going to Dmac, Bush, and Miller. That leaves 10 balls for the WRs combined.

    Right or Wrong folks?

  • Brien the General

    Is it difficult to catch passes from Graham Harrell in a 5 wr offense? WR screens were half his receptions

  • They Call Me Assassin

    I’m disappointed in all of you. There’s been discussion about Chris Morris’ combine workout and pre-draft notes. Not one person in here mentioned that he was the smartest person in the draft (highest wonderlic score). He also led the rookie group of Raider draft picks that year to the intelligence challenge and won at the rookie symposium. Whoops, this still doesn’t make him a good Center.

  • Brien the General

    Right Jhill

  • JHill (Let the Young Guys Play)

    I don’t know Assasin …

    I think while DHB certainly fits the “mold” that everyone thinks Al likes, I would be disappointed to see one of these 2nd tier (for lack of a better phrase) guys come in before we see what we have in last years guys. I think we all like JLH as a #2 option, but it’s way too early to throw in the towel on LAST YEAR’s draft picks for non top level blue chip guys that can be had in the 2nd round. Everyone acknowledges that we are not quite a playoff team yet, so why can’t we just play the young guys to see what we have? Again I say it’s not like JLH and Schillens didn’t perform when they got the chance.

  • S&B (BJ Raji / Tyson Jackson @ 7 because run d is 31st)

    JHill,

    At number 7 it is clear that Rey Mauluaga will definitely be on the board. IF Raji is on the board, you really think the Raiders REACH to take a 2-down linebacker over Raji?

    Do you think Terdell Sands and William Joseph are locks for this roster?

    The Raiders will take Michael Crabtree before they take Mauluaga at #7

    Goodell: With the seventh pick the Oakland Raiders select……..

  • Brien the General

    Morris I see as a backup only. Getting Mack is whats best

  • They Call Me Assassin

    586 – Bravo! I didn’t know how to put that scenario into words like you did. That’s perfect. I think your hidden message is “who cares if we have a number one WR” we just need guys that can keep the defenses honest and make an occasional play or two (JLH, Schilens).

    Tommy Trojan projected the Raiders to draft Ramses Barden out of Cal Poly the other night and I totally agree. What we need is a bigger threat in the red zone. We move the chains on the ground and in the air with the TE. What we suck at is actually scoring via the pass. Barden is huge, great hands, great value because he’ll be drafted no earlier than the 5th round. Same can be said about Patrick Turner from USC. I’ll take either one late in the draft.

  • JHill (Let the Young Guys Play)

    LOL,

    Someone did actually mention Morris’s wonderlic scores.

    I don’t care what anyone says about the guy. I hoping for the best.

    And again, he’s leading McFadden and Fargas out on the field in the NFL Network DMac commercial. That’s got to mean something, LOL!

  • S&B (BJ Raji / Tyson Jackson @ 7 because run d is 31st)

    JHill,

    You could be right with your Chris Morris assessment. Only problem is I don’t think he’s above Wade on the depth chart.

    Things could change.

  • JHill (Let the Young Guys Play)

    Morris’s … LOL!

    Sorry about that! Typing too fast.

  • Brien the General

    Raji wont play for Raiders

  • They Call Me Assassin

    Jhill – I agree. I’m not suggesting we even draft DHB. I’m just agreeing with you when you say the Raider Offense will be vertical. In that case, we should be looking at WR’s like DHB and not Crabtree. Either way, I’m not interested in DHB. Just trying to prove a point.

  • S&B (BJ Raji / Tyson Jackson @ 7 because run d is 31st)

    Brien the General Says:
    March 16th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
    Raji wont play for Raiders
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    Only if Cincy or Seattle takes him 1st.

  • JHill (Let the Young Guys Play)

    At number 7 it is clear that Rey Mauluaga will definitely be on the board. IF Raji is on the board, you really think the Raiders REACH to take a 2-down linebacker over Raji?

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    Hmmmm … Instead of a 2 down DT? I don’t think either of them will be the pick, honestly.

    Marshall takes out a DT on passing downs, and Kelly is NOT coming off the field.

  • They Call Me Assassin

    Those commercials worry me. I see Reggie Bush touted in a lot of commercials too. Not a good sign.

  • S&B (BJ Raji / Tyson Jackson @ 7 because run d is 31st)

    JHill (Let the Young Guys Play) Says:
    March 16th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
    At number 7 it is clear that Rey Mauluaga will definitely be on the board. IF Raji is on the board, you really think the Raiders REACH to take a 2-down linebacker over Raji?

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    Hmmmm … Instead of a 2 down DT? I don’t think either of them will be the pick, honestly.

    Marshall takes out a DT on passing downs, and Kelly is NOT coming off the field.
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    What does he do, go to a 3-4 on passing downs?

  • Brien the General

    Ramses Barden is on a few teams radar. Doubt we get him