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Raider should hope Broncos keep Cutler

It’s better for the Raiders if the Broncos are true to their public stance that they want to keep quarterback Jay Cutler.

I remember writing a column two years ago how Cutler was in a much better situation than JaMarcus Russell, given that he was being instructed by Mike Shanahan in a system which wasn’t going to change.

Russell, meanwhile, could be looking at a coaching staff overhaul if Lane Kiffin didn’t work out.

Seemed like a good idea at the time.

Having observed Cutler from the outside for two years, he strikes me as a front-runner who is fine when things are going his way, only to morph into a sullen, spoiled brat when faced with adversity. He’s shown it on the field, in his post-game demeanor, and of late with the news that Josh McDaniels was interested in Matt Cassel.

I believe it was Mel Kiper Jr. who compared Cutler to Jeff George. Not bad.

Russell has some work to do in terms of conditioning and maturity, but he’s rich, young and wealthy and can’t expected to be perfect.

He handled the whole Al Davis-Lane Kiffin situation, as well as the transition to Tom Cable, with an uncommon grace for a quarterback so young. Contrast that with how Cutler is acting now.

As much as San Diego’s Philip Rivers is reviled for his on-field demeanor, he’s a quarterback the home team and home fans can get behind, even if everyone else can’t stand him.

If the Broncos dump Cutler, don’t be surprised if his teammates are on board.

Jumping to more conclusions leading into a non-work related weekend schedule which will leave me away from a computer most of the time:

– The only way McDaniels isn’t mishandiing the situation is if his plan all along was to alienate Cutler to the point where he can start his regime with a new quarterback.

– A thinly veiled attempt at sarcasm during a live chant apparently has some readers thinking I’m of the opinion the Raiders are shopping Russell.

In response to a question about the Raiders doing just that, my two word response was “Real quietly.”

To which I probably should have included (insert sarcasm here).

Considering that earlier in the chat I’d responded to a “bust” question by saying Russell needs three full years (on the field, the contract impasse negates year 1) on the field before you think about applying that tag, and to a later question defending his accuracy over the last several games, I thought it was fairly clear

– The stealth trade talk with Russell has been going on simultaneously with the Raiders’ official request to change uniform colors and negotiations which will culminate with Davis and Kiffin jointly announcing they’ll let bygones be bygones.

– Nnamdi Asomugha is back in the country, and USA Today prepared a lengthy profile on the Raiders cornerback who scored the biggest prize in free agency.

Not much in it we didn’t already know about Asomugha’s character, diversified outside interests and dedication to his craft, but it does nothing but validate the decision of Davis to bring him back at a steep price.

Assuming the Raiders bring Asomugha back for a third year, it makes a lot more sense for Davis to pay him $45.3 million than it does the Washington Redskins to pay $48 million over four years (plus back-end fluff) for injury-prone, driving-challenged Albert Haynesworth.

– Stanford’s center Alex Fletcher won the Big Game “Axe” over Alex Mack in terms of the bench press, pumping 225 pounds 31 times to 20 for the Golden Bear.

If they ever decide to decide a tie game with bench press reps, that’s a big deal.

Reminds me of the time the 49ers took Jim Druckenmiller the year his representatives demonstrated the quarterback’s strength by his ability to wear a harness and tow a car.

All the agility, strength and speed stuff is well and good for purposes of documentation, but the ability to play football and what happens during the interview process is of more importance.

Someone like Mack no doubt scored huge points in the chalk talk and film room with his enthusiasm for technique and love of football. He confessed to reporters it was hurting him to watch Cal teammates going through spring football because he loved playing so much and couldn’t be a part of it.

– If the Raiders are going to make any inquiries regarding Roy Williams, it ought to be soon. The free agent safety visited the Bengals, so he’s looking at teams with losing records and his money demands might be getting somewhere in Oakland’s wheelhouse.

That’s if they want to go down that road. Given the way the Raiders have operated so far, they’re more likely to find a younger player with more tread on the tires.

– I’ve always supported an overtime system that gives a team a chance to score if the opponent scores first. Seems only fair.

But the Player’s Association shot down the idea of changing overtime with the competition committee, so the coin toss will remain a big part of determining winners and losers when regulation play ends in a tie.

– The contract of Raiders cornerback Chris Johnson remains on a milk carton some place. He’s appearing at offseason workout program, both he and his agent have confirmed that he’s signed, and he’s got a deal on file with the NFLPA.

No word in transactions on Raiders.com, nor an announcement of the signing of a key starter _ even though it happened more than a month ago.

But hey, they were quick to get the signing of Jason Horton out there.

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  • http://ibabuzz 4evaRaider

    post 499 LMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://ibabuzz 4evaRaider

    thats some good poop there

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    good afternoon NATION!!!

    anything new happen??

  • S&B (BJ Raji / Tyson Jackson @ 7 because run d is 31st)

    JHill (We Need A Lot Of Help On Offense!) Says:
    March 21st, 2009 at 12:42 pm
    In 5 of our losses last year, our defense was damn good. Any type of help from the offense, things turn out much different. We were only out of 5 games last year, Den, NO, NE, Atl, and SD.

    Buffalo game 7 points through 3 qtrs
    San Diego game 3 points through 3 qtrs
    Carolina 14 points through 3 qtrs
    Miami 14 points through 3 qtrs
    KC 10 points through 3 qtrs
    =======================================================
    Buffalo game the defense gave up 10 pts in the last 5 minutes

    San Diego 25 in 4th quarter

    Carolina game offense lost that game

    Miami – Defense gave up long plays and crapped out on the final drive

    K.C – Tom Cable lost that game

    Again, if Tom Cable had been the coach from training camp, I think the offense does perform better earlier in the season. But with Al Davis as the owner you have to take the good with the bad. Wasted 80% of the season with Curry and Lelie starting. Also, Buffalo and San Diego games turn out differently if the running game was intact.

    On the 5 games you listed…the Raiders gave up well over 100+ yards in all games except Buffalo & S.D. What if the run defense was just average? Do the Raiders win those games?

  • JHill (We Need A Lot Of Help On Offense!)

    You’re locked in to blaming Morrison and the offense. You dismiss all these yards that pile up on the ground against the us. You dismiss the role DTs play in stopping the run in a 4-3.

    A 9yard run…did Rice run cleanly through the line of scrimmage? Was he at full burst into the 2nd level?

    I say a DT that is a top 10 prospect CAN help this run defense:

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    Like I said S&B, you are just too locked into to Raji. It’s cool though. You can try and turn it around to me being against Morrison if u want to, but our first and 2nd down defense seem to be just fine. If you answer to all the 3rd and 6s and longer that we give up is a DT, then I would really question that. If we are getting pounded so much, how do we keep putting the other team in 3rd and long situations?

    It would be really easy to just say, yeah our 3rd down defense failed us twice on that drive. Once on the 3rd and 9 for the first down on the opponents own 16 yd line, and again on 3rd and 5 by giving up a 70 yd td play. The fact that you are really digging in, and trying to make a case for Raji on this series is laughable.

  • http://ibabuzz 4evaRaider

    not much 408

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6PodtDfdb4 408RAIDER(GO SHARKS & FREE DIRTY)

    still talkin draft eh 4eva????

  • Raider O

    JHill,

    I see your point. We need help on offense, but we still need help with the run D. Can Raji at 7th fix thecwntire Run D? Ni, but it’s a start, and be can help. I do see now that we need a lot more help on Offense: play calling, using our talent correctly like Bush, help on Oline and WRs.

  • Raider O

    The entire Run D? No.

  • JHill (We Need A Lot Of Help On Offense!)

    On the 5 games you listed…the Raiders gave up well over 100+ yards in all games except Buffalo & S.D. What if the run defense was just average? Do the Raiders win those games?

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    LOL, S&B,

    Keep trying! So 3 outta 5 games we gave up well over 100 yds? Carolina had 1 play for 70 yds, and Thigpen, the QB ran for how many yards in that KC game? WE already established that the 70 yd play should have been 7 yds even with Sands in there, right? And how many yds did Johnson have in that KC game? The run defense was better than average for 90% of the game. Time to start holding the other parts of the defense to the same standard that you’re holding the run defense to. How many yds are knocked off the run defense if the 3rd down defense does it’s job? How about half the 3 and outs from the offense instead of the steady stream we’ve been seeing? Maybe if they hold the ball an extra 6 or 7 minutes per game, say 1 or 2 nice possessions, then the defense performs in the 4th qtr like they do in the first half?

    How about that?

  • Grass Fairy

    LMN”s Mother Says:
    March 21st, 2009 at 12:23 pm
    La Milicia Negra Says:
    March 21st, 2009 at 7:24 am
    Dammit, Leonard Weaver has signed with Philly, Robert Royal, Kevin Shaffer, Jason Brown all guys that would make our Offense better instantly, but fukk-up Al just dont want a good team…

    What is this guy’s problem?

    He’s a wannabe grass fairy.

  • S&B (BJ Raji / Tyson Jackson @ 7 because run d is 31st)

    JHill (We Need A Lot Of Help On Offense!) Says:
    March 21st, 2009 at 12:45 pm
    JHill, he’s paid to be the starter. He was expected to be that force in the middle that I am complaining about. His salary does not justify his status.

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    No he’s not, Warren and Kelly are. If you are still stuck on expectations from 2 years ago, then you’re wasting your time. The team is not expecting Sands to be anything more than the backup he is. Kelly and Warren are not expected to be backups, Sands is.
    =======================================================
    Last yr. Terdell Sands was paid in the same range with:

    Rocky Bernard
    LaRoi Glover
    Darnell Dockett

    Terdell was paid more than:
    Amobi Okoye
    Corey Redding
    Fred Robbins
    Adam Carriker
    Broderick Bunkley
    Jamal Williams
    Sedrick Ellis
    Kevin Williams

    http://content.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/salaries/playersbyposition.aspx?pos=137&order=Salary+desc

  • La Milicia Negra

    Blargh!

  • Grass Fairy

    Al Davis, Oakland 02:35 PM ET
    Every article I read people say the Raiders will be better off without me. Do you agree? Pat Kirwan, NFL.com
    I have so much respect for you, Al, the Hall of Fame owner that you are. Could you please find a GM you trust and let him run your football team for you. You will enjoy the next five years if you do that.

  • Grass Fairy

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    March 21st, 2009 at 1:07 pm
    Blargh!

    That’s grass fairy for I suck!

  • JHill (We Need A Lot Of Help On Offense!)

    Raider O,

    We need help with 3rd down defense. Any of these 3rd down plays are made, then that’s 13 less points for Baltimore all before the 4th qtr. We’re talking about a game that we are still in despite nothing from the offense.

    3rd-9, BAL16 9:02 R. Rice rushed to the left for 9 yard gain

    3rd-5, BAL30 7:26 J. Flacco passed to D. Williams to the left for 70 yard touchdown. M. Stover made PAT

    3rd-20, BAL28 6:48 J. Flacco passed to R. Rice to the left for 21 yard gain

    3rd-12, BAL18 3:32 J. Flacco passed to R. Rice down the middle for 14 yard gain

  • La Milicia Negra

    # Grass Fairy Says:
    March 21st, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    March 21st, 2009 at 1:07 pm
    Blargh!

    That’s grass fairy for I suck!
    ________________________________________________________

    well as your name suggest only you would know…

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6PodtDfdb4 408RAIDER(GO SHARKS & FREE DIRTY)

    :evil:

  • La Milicia Negra

    hey 408… how goes with you and your princess?

  • JHill (We Need A Lot Of Help On Offense!)

    Last yr. Terdell Sands was paid in the same range with:

    Rocky Bernard
    LaRoi Glover
    Darnell Dockett

    Terdell was paid more than:
    Amobi Okoye
    Corey Redding
    Fred Robbins
    Adam Carriker
    Broderick Bunkley
    Jamal Williams
    Sedrick Ellis
    Kevin Williams

    —————————————————–

    So he had a good agent!

    Was he the starter last year? Or was he the backup? It’s real simple.

    And I’m all for replacing Sands, by the way. Just not with the #7 pick.

  • Grass Fairy

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    March 21st, 2009 at 1:14 pm
    # Grass Fairy Says:
    March 21st, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    March 21st, 2009 at 1:07 pm
    Blargh!

    That’s grass fairy for I suck!
    ________________________________________________________

    well as your name suggest only you would know…

    WELL AS YOUR NAME SUGGESTS ONLY YOU WOULD KNOW :roll:

  • Raider O

    JHill,

    Look at teams that stop the run like the Ravens and Pitt. They dont allow RBs to rush for 100 + yards a game. Ravens offense is not a lot better than the raiders except for their Oline. The made the POs and helped Flaco develop. I’m not saying we will have the Ravens D, but to be ranked in the buttom 5 in stopping the Rush for 5 years can’t be blamed on the offense. We need help on the Dline, and we have needed help there fir the past 7-8 years.

  • La Milicia Negra

    yeah i noticed that one too =) quick fingers =)

  • A Source familiar with the subject

    This just in everyone. Raiders plan to draft Crabtree if he is available, if not, then they’ll look at LB, but they will wait on drafting a C until the second, they expect Mack to be gone by then, so they’ll go with the next best C. Third round is going the D’s way, where they’ll look at either a LB or DT, drafting whichever player at each position is the best one available. Fourth is going D again, and we are getting a SS. That’s their plan so far… more later when they decide what to do with the rest of their picks…

  • oliverthizz

    1. Rey Maualuga MLB
    2. Max Unger C
    3. Fili Moala DT
    4. Kevin Ellison SS
    6. Patrick Turner WR
    7. Jason Watkins OT

    UFA Rulon Davis DE
    UFA Ra’Shon Harris DT

  • http://none Oakglenn’s Greatest Hits

    oakglenn Says:
    December 4th, 2007 at 1:13 pm
    John I’m teasing, I’m not mad at ya. I guess that’s my point, that personally, I have waaay more faith in Kif, McCown, Davis and the Raiders organization than 95% of the so called “fans” or “nation” for that matter.

  • Raider O

    Why not Raji at 7th? We signed 2 OTs that can atart day one in FA, and we can draft a center in the 2nd or 3rd. With Mario in that OT mix, and if doesn’t workout, then we can draft one next year.

  • S&B (BJ Raji / Tyson Jackson @ 7 because run d is 31st)

    JHill,

    No one is saying the run defense lost every game last year. But the run defense is a big problem. You dismiss a 70 yard run against Carolina or the Dolphins run yards because it was the Wildcat. Or even Tyler Thigpen running for days and days. Those yards count just as much. 17 carries at 4 yards or more a pop counts.

    The DTs are not solely responsible and nor am I saying that one player in the draft will be a cure all. But the fact is that the Raiders give up a lot of yards up the middle, around the edge, up/down and in between. A DT at #7 does make a difference and will put a dent in the defense. The Raiders, more than ever, need a guy on the D_Line that can penetrate, take on double teams and make plays on the other side of the line of scrimmage.

    The linebackers, like the play on that YouTube clip, can’t make plays if they are getting handled by OGs in the second level. The Gerard Warren’s and Terdell Sands’ don’t command the double teams required of the position.

    Show me the games where those guys ripped it up. Show me the games where you walk away saying….”The Raider defense set the tempo of this game”

    Also, when you look to improve this defense. There are three positions that need the upgrade: DT, DE and SLB. Let’s look at the number 7 pick and see what could be available.:

    DE – Orakpo – He’s a pass rusher a DE or 3/4 backer
    SLB – Curry – He would help us a lot on containment and finishing tackles
    DT – Raji – We know what the pundits are saying he can do

    There is no safety at the number 7 pick.

  • La Milicia Negra

    yeah i noticed that one too =) stinky fingers =) I love stinky fingers =)

  • La Milicia Negra

    yeah I head that too, LOL, and between 1st and 2nd all raiders personal at the draft will eat banana pie, wear boxers on their heads and sing “bombalaya”

  • La Milicia Negra

    heard, that too, regarding…

    A Source familiar with the subject Says:
    March 21st, 2009 at 1:20 pm

  • Raider O

    As for WR, the position is not as important on a run heavy team as a DT. Also we can add a vet or trade for one later, so they can help our young WRs develop.

  • La Milicia Negra

    408…

    see ya, sadly you are only here in the afternoon (yours), too many kids in here in the afternoon…

    take care all

    FORZA BRONDBY, WE’RE @ #1!!!!

  • La Milicia Negra

    heard, that too, regarding…

    A Source familiar with the subject Says:
    March 21st, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    can’t say that I can give an objective opinion since I know nothing of American football. but I CAN name every grass fairy who plays European football.

  • S&B (BJ Raji / Tyson Jackson @ 7 because run d is 31st)

    JHill,

    If Al is thinking, a mock draft like this one would take care of a lot of issues with this defense:

    1. B.J Raji, DT, B.C – Commands double teams, penetrates, beast against the run

    2. Max Unger/Eric Wood, C Oregon/Louisville – 12 yr starter and upgrade on O-Line

    3. Jasper Brinkley, LB, So. Car – Big physical guy with speed that hits hard that can push Morrison at MLB or take SLB spot

    4. Mitch King, DE, Iowa – Base DE that can hold the edge

    Now you have shored up 3 defensive positions that also increases the versatility and playmaking on defense. Adds another DT to the rotation and gets more depth at LB. Your Defensive End position on the strong side is improved.

    Your offensive line will be upgraded with the free agent pickups, a new Center and a more seasoned Mario Henderson. The young receivers get another year under their belt and the QB gets coaching for the first time in his NFL career.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6PodtDfdb4 408RAIDER(GO SHARKS & FREE DIRTY)

    Later LMN… gotta make that $$$ and day job is trippin on my net usage… :(

  • oliverthizz

    LMN, do Americans go on soccer websites and post?

  • JHill (We Need A Lot Of Help On Offense!)

    Show me the games where those guys ripped it up. Show me the games where you walk away saying….”The Raider defense set the tempo of this game”

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    I already did … but of course you looked right past it. The defense for the first 3 qtrs in 3 outta 4 of everyone of our games did just what it was supposed to do. That’s good enough for me. I’d like to now catch the offense up to that point. Tell me one game where our offense put us in a position to do anything in the first half? Even the last 6 games of the season, we only looked half way decent against Texas. We did NOTHING else offensively to speak of.

    Improving our first half offense should be a bigger priority than fixing the 4th qtr run defense.

    How do you stop the run? Get off the field on 3rd down and give the ball back to your offense.

  • http://Raiders Oakglenn

    # Oakglenn’s Greatest Hits Says:
    March 21st, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    oakglenn Says:
    December 4th, 2007 at 1:13 pm
    John I’m teasing, I’m not mad at ya. I guess that’s my point, that personally, I have waaay more faith in Kif, McCown, Davis and the Raiders organization than 95% of the so called “fans” or “nation” for that matter.
    ———————————————————-

    So after searching this blog, and sifting thru literally THOUSANDS of my posts, this is the best you can come up with?? Let’s put some context here: This statement was made immediately after the Raiders and Kiff and McCown had won their second game in a row over KC and Denver with McCown going 14/21 and 3 TD’s if I remember correctly. You have been looking for 6 days to find statements to discredit me. This is the BEST you can come up with?????????????????????????? You just completely discredited yourself, maddenloser.

  • JHill (We Need A Lot Of Help On Offense!)

    Sorry S&B, but the draft is going to look more like

    Crabtree/Maclin in rd 1

    Unger or Wood in rd 2 in we don’t trade up for Mack.

    Best RT prospect to compete with Pears in Rd 3.

    Rd 4 Who knows after rd 3? You can have it to get a DT and DE prospect.

    Or a trade back in Rd 1 for Mack at C

    DHB in Rd 2

    RT prospect with the extra 2nd rd pick acquired by trading back

    DE in rd 3

    SS in rd 4.

    DE and S would do more for our defensive woes on 3rd down than DT. and we don’t have to spend the #7 pick to make it happen. OR if we do, it will be on Orakpo, Brown, or Johnson at DE.

  • http://Raiders Oakglenn

    # Oakglenn’s Greatest Hits Says:
    March 21st, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    oakglenn Says:
    December 12th, 2007 at 4:56 pm
    Kiff is excited to be here. Believe me. He thinks he’s turned the corner, he thinks he has guys buying into his system, things are moving forward, we just need some more guys.
    ————————————————————-

    Again, this statement was made just after the Raiders had won two of three, and just a couple of days BEFORE they played an excellent game against the defending Super Bowl Champion Indianapolis Colts, a team that ended up going 13-3 that year. Don’t really see the problem in this statement. Kiff had guys buying in, these apparently were moving forward, and we did and DO need more guys. If this is the best you can do to discredit me, I am glad you just wasted hours and hours of your time. And BTW, I completely stand by both these statements.

  • http://Raiders Oakglenn

    One last word on this subject. I stand by what I say. It is what you call integrity. Liars like maddenraider make phony posts or lie, and then when they are caught, shrug it off and say so what. That’s what you call deceitful and despicable. Sucks to be him.

  • http://Raiders Oakglenn

    JHill (We Need A Lot Of Help On Offense!) Says:
    March 21st, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Show me the games where those guys ripped it up. Show me the games where you walk away saying….”The Raider defense set the tempo of this game”

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    I already did … but of course you looked right past it. The defense for the first 3 qtrs in 3 outta 4 of everyone of our games did just what it was supposed to do.
    ——————————————————

    “We can carry the team for three quarters. But the offense has to win it in the 4th.” Ray Lewis

    Enuff said.

  • darkknight01

    A Source familiar with the subject Says:
    March 21st, 2009 at 1:20 pm
    This just in everyone. Raiders plan to draft Crabtree if he is available, if not, then they’ll look at LB, but they will wait on drafting a C until the second, they expect Mack to be gone by then, so they’ll go with the next best C. Third round is going the D’s way, where they’ll look at either a LB or DT, drafting whichever player at each position is the best one available. Fourth is going D again, and we are getting a SS. That’s their plan so far… more later when they decide what to do with the rest of their picks…

    ^^^^^^
    Interesting if true. I wonder what LB they will look at with the #7 if Crabs is not there?

    I would have to think Maualuga if they are looking at a TRUE LB. I wonder if when you say LB if you suggest Everette Brown? He would more of a down DE though then a 4-3 SAM. He is a pass rusher….and the same goes for Orakpo.

  • oliverthizz

    1. Rey Maualuga MLB
    2. Max Unger C
    3. Fili Moala DT
    4. Kevin Ellison SS
    6. Patrick Turner WR
    7. Jason Watkins OT

    UFA Rulon Davis DE
    UFA Ra’Shon Harris DT

  • Nnamdi21

    540. Bingo.

  • http://Raiders Oakglenn

    S&B (BJ Raji / Tyson Jackson @ 7 because run d is 31st) Says:
    March 21st, 2009 at 11:23 am

    JHill says,

    You need to review this and tell me again about the Ravens game ..

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=20081026033&page=plays
    =======================================================

    When I break down the Baltimore game, what I see is this:

    Our first series, on third down, Jamarcus back to pass, SACK.

    We stuff them, on our second series, Jamarcus back to pass for the second time in the game, SACKED AGAIN, safety.

    Stop right there. We have gone back to pass twice in the game, we have taken huge losses, one resulting in opponent points at the most critical of times. And this happened EVERY SINGLE GAME. This is the defenses fault how now???

  • Nnamdi21

    545. Good to see alot of us coming around to what Davis has been up to all these years.

    206 offensive plays without a TD last year DID affect our D.

  • JHill (We Need A Lot Of Help On Offense!)

    I’m trying to understand how JLH @ 5’11 185lbs = Maclin @ 6’0 200lbs?

    Been looking at Maclin a bit closer since his pro day numbers are posted, and this kid would upgrade our WR corps.

  • JHill (We Need A Lot Of Help On Offense!)

    206 offensive plays without a TD last year DID affect our D.

    —————————————————–

    People tend to try and forget things like that.