Raiders score Thanksgiving, MNF games
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, March 23rd, 2009 at 1:44 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders will play their first Thanksgiving Day game in 39 years in Dallas against the Cowboys and also will open the season on Monday night with a home game against the San Diego Chargers as the NFL announced its prime time schedule on its Web site.
The last time the Raiders played on Thanksgiving was on Nov. 26, 1970 at Tiger Stadium, when they jumped ahead 14-0 on a pair of touchdown passes from Daryle Lamonica to Fred Biletnikoff but lost 28-14 to the Detroit Lions and quarterback Greg Landry.
The last time they opened at home against San Diego on Monday night was the Art Shell debacle, a 27-0 embarrassment in 2006.
A Monday night opener at home against Denver last season was equally embarrassing, with the Broncos prevailing 41-14.
The opener provides Tom Cable to get the Raiders headed in a direction Shell and Lane Kiffin could not _ with something other than a nationwide face plant before a national television audience.
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March 23rd, 2009 at 1:44 pm
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March 23rd, 2009 at 1:47 pm
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March 23rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
EAST COAST BIAS TO INFLUENCE SCHEDULING?
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/23/east-coast-bias-to-influence-scheduling/
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
I don’t want to get embarassed on opening night again. We need to beef up the lines with real players not castoffs.
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
# ??? Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:36 pm
According to ESPN, the Raiders dealt their sixth-round pick (No. 168) to Miami for Satele, and the clubs will also swap picks in another round.
Miami have two picks in round 2….dont think we will be picking 7th in round 2
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as of what i can understand its 4th round picks we swapped
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Another reason to get Raji as our 1st pick, we need to win our first game of the season and stop LT.
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Jerry if you don’t start registration soon this website will fall into the ocean.
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Hey broz, Looks like we play the COWGIRLS in Thanksgiving.
Also, we play the DISCHARGE in the 50th Anniversery Double header in throw back gear.
Per PFT.COM
In Al & Cable I trust!
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:50 pm
I predicted the Raiders were going to play on Thanskgiving two weeks before Norco Bob. Give me some props!
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Maybe we can start the season right this time, instead of a complete and total embarrassment.
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:51 pm
we are going to destroy the dolts and cowgirls
Crabtree blanketed by cromartie, makes the catch, breaks a tackle, he’s at the 40…30…20…10
TOUCHDOWN RAIDERS!!!
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:51 pm
#12 booyah
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:51 pm
LT usually starts the year slow, so if we ever were to beat the Dolts, opening-night might be the day.
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:52 pm
i was the first to tell you guys this just sayin lol
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
By the way we have the Browns (Rogers), Jets (Jenkins), and Redskins (Haynsworth) on our schedule so I hope Satele will be on his ready to defend his name.
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
we need to win our first game of the season and stop LT.
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Tomlinson is done. Rob Ryan is gone and the run defense has already improved from 31st to 15th. we need to score points. Even with Raji, Rivers would shred our defense guys. don’t kid yourselves
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Everyone, feel free to post as DMunoz26. This entire blog should be only posts from DMunoz26.
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:57 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:53 pm
The Dow went up nearly 500 points today because of me. I predicted it yesterday.
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Don’t know about that, but I did call the bottom a few Fridays ago on a technical reversal. I know BSJ would back me on that.
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:58 pm
I think a good scenario would be inquiring if the jets want to trade Gholston and the number 17 for our number 7. Gholston had a wash out rookie year because he is playing out of position in the jets 3-4. He’d fit right back in to the 4-3 and be the DE we’ve been lacking. We could then still pick one of the mid-round receivers if we want to go that route, or take Britton to be our RT, or one of the DTs.
Would work for Jets because they need a QB and need to pick ahead of SF for Sanchez..
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Sac,
I would like that, but Gholston is getting top 5 money, so we would take that hit salary wise. But everything else being equal I would do it. Than take DHB #17 and a DT at #40.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
SacRaider,
So you really think the Jets are just gonna throw a top 10 pick out with the trash after one year to move up 10 spots? Come on bro, thats freakn rediculous.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
who wants that bust Vernon Gholston?
you think the Jets would give up their 1st rounder last year just to move up 10 spots? no way!
Rex Ryan will try to transform VG into the next Terrell Suggs
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Sac,
I would like that, but Gholston is getting top 5 money, so we would take that hit salary wise. But everything else being equal I would do it. Than take DHB #17 and a DT at #40.
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Well, a bit of that money is bonus money that we wouldn’t have to pay because it’d stay in NY.. And moving to 17 means we wouldn’t have to pay number 7 money from this draft..
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:05 pm
After Al’s press conference last year, the NFL wants to get Al and the Raiders on the grandest stage possible. What a trainwreck it’s going to be.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:05 pm
I own MR Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
SacRaider,
So you really think the Jets are just gonna throw a top 10 pick out with the trash after one year to move up 10 spots? Come on bro, thats freakn rediculous.
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Just a thought.. Gholston was a horrible pick for the jets because he doesn’t fit their system. And hes not a rex ryan guy so who knows.. And moving up those 10 spots would cost close to a 1st rounder..
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:05 pm
THIS FREAKIN BETTER HAVE A KICK A$$ MINDSET AGAINST THE DOLTS this time around on MONDAY NIGHT!! No excuses…..play tough and smart football for 60 minutes and pound those over rated Dolts!
No more embarassing losses!
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:10 pm
This off-season is going pretty good: re-signing Nmamdi and Shane, no horrible new contracts, addressing depth on the O-line, bringing back a coach who wants to be here, getting rid of Rob Ryan, a turkey-day game….I mean, who would thought all this?
Now just don’t blow the draft and we should be moving in the right direction.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:11 pm
I refuse to post as Munoz26. He is just setting me up for a lawsuit.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Hey how come all my post were deleted?
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Thanksgiving game! With the Cowboys!?! No T.O. = no turkey!
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Yeah baby, I will be moving to dallas next month for work reasons only, but you can assure that I will be at that thanksgiving game, going for the one and only team, RRRRRRAaaiidderrss…..
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
COW getting so upset about words written on a computer screen shows how feeble minded you are and lacking of any self esteem.
Your a weak person you base your self worth on an internet blog and it is a nice way for little girls like you to hide behind and act tough.
If you want to fight me you know where I live so we will now see who is afraid of who little man.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:16 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
we need to win our first game of the season and stop LT.
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Tomlinson is done. Rob Ryan is gone and the run defense has already improved from 31st to 15th. we need to score points. Even with Raji, Rivers would shred our defense guys. don’t kid yourselves
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Rockstar,
The offense is going to score more points this year. A full year under the same HC/OC/QB for the first time in YEARS! A running game that will be healthy with a big dose of DMAC and Bush. Real QB coaching for the 1st time. Upgrades at LT, RT and C with both guards returning. A healthy Schilens, Walker and Shields. A confident JLH and no more Curry and Lelie.
RAIDERS AVERAGED 25 POINTS IN THE LAST 5 GMS and that includes the S.D and K.C games
THE DEFENSE GAVE UP ON AVERAGE 30 POINTS PER IN THE SAME 5 GAMES
1st Round: B.J Raji, DT
2nd Round: Jarron Gilbert, DE
3rd Round: Jasper Brinkley, MLB
4th Round: Best OT available to push starters
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Can’t wait for the Raiders at da’Boys. Guess i’m spending turkey day in Dallas!! Now just have to craigslist my kidney to pay for the $80 cup of beer Jerry will be charging at his brand new dome!
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Rex Ryan made Terell Suggs a star, I would imagine he looks at Gholston the same. In essence the Jets would be trading a number 5 overall pick and 17 overall to get to 7?? Never would happen.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:19 pm
SilverNBlack666 Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
COW getting so upset about words written on a computer screen shows how feeble minded you are and lacking of any self esteem.
Your a weak person you base your self worth on an internet blog and it is a nice way for little girls like you to hide behind and act tough.
If you want to fight me you know where I live so we will now see who is afraid of who little man.
Where do you live? I wouldn’t mind getting in on that action. I know karate, judo and some other Japanese words too!
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:20 pm
S&B,
What part of there are no open spots in the DT rotation, dont you understand?
They are not drafting a DT. It is as simple as that.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Raji won’t, can’t, isn’t, and shouldn’t be the pick.
Dream on…
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Well I do!
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:26 pm
We should keep our own picks. We worked hard for them.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:26 pm
I own MR Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:20 pm
S&B,
What part of there are no open spots in the DT rotation, dont you understand?
They are not drafting a DT. It is as simple as that.
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Sez who? The only lock for next year is Tommy Kelly. No expensive free agent signings for the position.
If the Raiders bring in Tank Johnson before the draft for more than the league minimum, then I will reconsider.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:27 pm
666, Where do you live?
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:28 pm
And dude, weve been through this before. You readily admit you didnt watch his games and you dont know much about him. Did you know he didnt even play in 07? Did you know that Brace was generally regared as the better run stuffer and Raji was living off Brace being doubled? Raji only came on the scene at the combine. He WONT be the pick. Period. Al Davis thinks Sands and Kelly hung the moon, drafting a DT that early would be admitting those guys suck. Stop banging the freakn Raji drum, it aint happening.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Ryan had better look at Gholston in some kind of positive way. They’re paying that kid too much money to sit, too much money to not produce, and WAY too much money to trade him.
We’ll see what kind of genius he is with no QB and no Ray Lewis. Call me skeptical, but the Ryan family doesn’t impress me a whole lot.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Lets hope third times a charm…a beat down of the San Diego Chargers would be a great start to the season as well a 1-0 record for Cable and the 2k9 Raiders.
The center pick up , signing Barnes and Pears as well as getting the best players signed, all bodes well for a team we will be happy to comment on next season.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
They would have already cut Sands or Warren if they were going to.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
1919 Fruitdale ave san jose
where do you live little man?
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Wow, you guys must have been having some fun on the last thread, half the comments got deleted.
Thanksgiving game? Awesome.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:31 pm
I get off work at 5 home by 6 I could have your face burred in the dirt by 6:03 if your not scared then you will show up….I am off to meeting.
Se you there little man!!
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:33 pm
S&B,
Can you post the scouting report on Jarron Gilbert plz?
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Stop banging the freakn Raji drum, it aint happening.
LMFAO
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:34 pm
666, What apartment #?
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:34 pm
looks like Al did it again, pro football talk is saying that we swapped 4th round picks and shipped a 6th round pick for Satele. Not bad for a former 2nd round pick that started last year. If its true, keep up the good work Al!!
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
The offense is going to score more points this year. A full year under the same HC/OC/QB for the first time in YEARS! A running game that will be healthy with a big dose of DMAC and Bush. Real QB coaching for the 1st time. Upgrades at LT, RT and C with both guards returning. A healthy Schilens, Walker and Shields. A confident JLH and no more Curry and Lelie.
RAIDERS AVERAGED 25 POINTS IN THE LAST 5 GMS and that includes the S.D and K.C games
THE DEFENSE GAVE UP ON AVERAGE 30 POINTS PER IN THE SAME 5 GAMES
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S&B: the defense also has a new/better coaching staff and all their players return from injury as well. more playing time for the youngsters (Scott, Gunheim, Branch, Brown, etc). Huff is pass coverage instead of Wilson, who was a major liability in that dept
it’s basically the same arguement. I’m sure we’ll draft some guys to help shore up the defensive front seven, but that doesn’t always mean a 1st rounder. Thats what rounds 2-4 are for.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:36 pm
A fight after school in the parking lot? Did ya hear? SilverNBlack666 and COW are fighting after school in the parking lot….. Be there or be square.
Are you two FUKKING kidding me? Are you fukkin puzzys for real? Grow the fuk up you morons.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:36 pm
SilverNBlack666 Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
1919 Fruitdale ave san jose
I’m going too google earth with that one!
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
I can’t believe that guy is stupid enough to post his address on the internet. That must be a fake address.
No one is that stupid.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
DoucheMunoz says the Arizona Cardinals strength is at the d and o lines, NOT WR……. Brilliant!!!
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:39 pm
The Unibomber Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
I can’t believe that guy is stupid enough to post his address on the internet. That must be a fake address.
No one is that stupid.
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Lol, coming from the one and only Theodore Kaczynski. Now thats some funny sh1te right there boy.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Looks like the Raiders sent a 6th and swapped 4th round picks, moving the Raiders back 22 picks in the 4th.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Is that a real address? I hope not, a lot of crazy people on the net bro.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:39 pm
The last comment was in the trade with Miami.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Jaxom Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Looks like the Raiders sent a 6th and swapped 4th round picks, moving the Raiders back 22 picks in the 4th.
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Cool, thanks for posting what has already been posted SEVERAL times. It’s cool man. Don’t read up first.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
I own MR Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:28 pm
And dude, weve been through this before. You readily admit you didnt watch his games and you dont know much about him. Did you know he didnt even play in 07? Did you know that Brace was generally regared as the better run stuffer and Raji was living off Brace being doubled? Raji only came on the scene at the combine. He WONT be the pick. Period. Al Davis thinks Sands and Kelly hung the moon, drafting a DT that early would be admitting those guys suck. Stop banging the freakn Raji drum, it aint happening.
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No I don’t watch a lot of college football except for the game of the week. My guess is that no one here watches enough college football to be able to evaluate any more than a couple of players. Plus, I am no professional scout and neither are you.
He didn’t play in ‘07. I am quite aware of that. But he played as a sophmore in was ACC 2nd team or somthing like that. Perhaps you can verify.
Also, can you find somewhere where it said Brace overshadowed Raji or where Brace was the guy taking the double teams so Raji could flourish? I’ll be waiting.
Al Davis just jettisoned Harris, Wilson, deAngelo Hall mid-season, Curry and possibly put Burgess on the trade block…I don’t think Sands, Warren or Joseph are untouchable at all.
The only way the Raiders don’t get Raji is if he is taken beforehand by one of the team in the top 6. Of coure that shouldn’t surprise anyone given that he is a top 10 prospect!
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Not bad for a starting Center.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Raider O Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:33 pm
S&B,
Can you post the scouting report on Jarron Gilbert plz?
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Strengths:
Good size with a large frame and long arms…Very athletic…Extremely quick…Terrific natural strength and power…Big, strong hands…Nice balance and agility…Is able to penetrate and make plays in the backfield…Decent range and pursues well…Smart with good instincts and awareness…Offers positional and schematic versatility…Reliable tackler…Decent production…Is still improving and has a lot of upside.
Weaknesses:
Inconsistent…Bit of a classic ‘tweener…Needs to be more physical and aggressive…Doesn’t use his hands well…Has some trouble shedding blocks…Needs to use better leverage…Not a great technician…Motor runs hot and cold…Immature ?…Did not always face elite competition.
Notes:
Could play defensive tackle in a 4-3 scheme or be a five-technique defensive end in a 3-4 and some have even raised the possibility of moving him to offensive tackle…Father Daren played offensive tackle for the New Orleans Saints from 1985-88…Weighed about 240 pounds when he began college…Redshirted in 2004…Played defensive end his first 2 1/2 years with the Spartans before moving inside to defensive tackle as a junior…Was 2nd Team All-WAC in 2007…Had a breakout senior campaign and saw his draft stock soar…Named 1st Team All-WAC and was the conference’s Co-Defensive Player of the Year in 2008…Became a YouTube sensation with this clip of him jumping out of a swimming pool…Was one of the stars of the East / West Shrine Game…Similar in some ways to guys like Ikaika Alama-Francis and Jason Jones…A very intriguing prospect with all of the physical tools that you look for..Still a little raw but has all the potential in the world
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Dream on S&B. It’s cool man, we won’t rain on your Raji parade anymore. Everyone has a favorite player they like, and wish they were a Raider. Raji is yours, it’s cool.
I remember how stange I felt when Timmy became a Buc.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:44 pm
That fruit doesn’t live there.
THERE IS NOTHING BUT A BURNT DOWN BUILDING AT 1919 FRUITDALE AVE SAN JOSE.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:44 pm
I don’t think Sands, Warren or Joseph are untouchable at all.
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no way!
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Ugh, I hate these Monday night openers. We are going to get embarrassed again. As much as I hate the Chargers, they are a much better team than the Raiders.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:47 pm
If we are not going to draft a center, then we can draft:
1- Raji, Orakpo, OT, or WR. In that order.
2- Brace if Raji wasnt,William Moore, Robiskie, M Johnson, Ayers. In that order.
3- JB, Chung, OT
4- O line, LB, or S
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:48 pm
terrell suggs let the nation in sacks, he was a star until he was played out of position
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Every scouting report I have seen says its hard to tell whos benefiting the most from the other, Brace or Raji. NFL network said as much on their Path to the Draft show.
Yeah, he jettisoned all those guys. Stands to reason Warren or Sands would have been gone with them.
Joseph??Pfft. Why even bring that guys name up. They run a 3 man rotation, he wont even be on the team.
If one of the big 3 get cut, then I would come around to your thinking. Untill then, DT isnt the pick.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:48 pm
If it’s his real address, he deserves what he gets.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Milo the Pyro Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:44 pm
That fruit doesn’t live there.
THERE IS NOTHING BUT A BURNT DOWN BUILDING AT 1919 FRUITDALE AVE SAN JOSE.
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Wow genious, did you really think that was a valid address? You even looked it up? Dude…
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Trev Jo, What is your address?
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:50 pm
S&B,
How big is this kid?
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:51 pm
The Unibomber Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Trev Jo, What is your address?
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he is asking because he has a package he would like to mail you…
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Also, thank you for the report. He looks good, but projected as 3-4 DE or 4-3 DT. Sound like T Jackson, doesn’t he?
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Trade back for an extra pick and get Rey or Cushing and we’ll have the best lb core in the league for years
Brace in round 2 will take on 2 blockers in the NFL(watch the film it’s him and not Raji, although Raji is a nasty dude) and we’ll be in the PLAYOFFS THIS YEAR
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Also, how fast is this kid?
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:54 pm
I tust you guys!
My address is
555 West 55th Avenue
Hot Springs, Arkansas 55555
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
he runs a 10.4 40
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Find one, JUST ONE, Mock draft that has the Raiders taking Raji. And dont give me the whole “Mock draft dont mean squat” line. I know that. But it does provide insight into the particular needs of a team.
Just one and I will stop badgering you.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Dakota Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:54 pm
I tust you guys!
My address is
555 West 55th Avenue
Hot Springs, Arkansas 55555
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Not even a funny joke. We all know you are too stupid and inbred to know your own address.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Jason Smith OT Baylor 6-5 309 1 5.09 33 24 3.00 1.75 08′00″ 4.69 7.53
4 2 Eugene Monroe OT Virginia 6-5 309 1 5.18 23 28 1/2 2.96 1.75 09′02″ 4.79 7.8
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Satele to the raiders just shows that no one knows what the raiders are doing, both teams were trying to make this trade like 2 weeks ago
So i wouldnt try to guess our pick at #7 or any other moves
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:56 pm
I’ll be there!
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Oakhole, What is a genious?
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:57 pm
I like the Raiders a lot.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Ron Brace:
Notice the statement at the end of weaknesses. “Didn’t face many double teams”
Strengths:
Excellent size and bulk…Very quick off the snap…Great strength…Is stout at the point of attack…Does a terrific job against the run…Gets a good push up the middle…Will collapse the pocket…A powerful tackler…Shows the ability to shoot gaps and penetrate at times…Nice instincts / awareness…Lots of experience…Improving and has upside.
Weaknesses:
Not a sack artist and repertoire of pass rush moves is limited…Does not always play with proper leverage…Still needs to use his hands better…Will get hung up on blocks…Conditioning and stamina might be issues…Has an inconsistent motor…Didn’t face many double teams.
Notes:
http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/dt/Ron-Brace.php
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:59 pm
The Arizona Cardinals made the Superbowl because of their d-line, NOT because of their WRs.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:00 pm
see you fellers tomorrow …
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:01 pm
1- Raji
2- William Moore, Branch can play FS. M Johnson/ Ayers
3- DE, or Chung depends on the prev pick.
4- JB
All the new FA moves and the trade are on the O side. We will fix the D through the Draft.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Every scouting site out there has the Raiders number 1 need at WR. Not a one has DT listed. Only S&Bs Raider Report has DT listed.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Milo the Pyro Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Oakhole, What is a genious?
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Drinkability
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:04 pm
I’m hearing Braylon Edwards is on his way to the O.
I bet he’ll get a big azz house I can burn down.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:06 pm
This a good move, bringing in another Center will help us out. Chris Morris wouldn’t start for a college team right now, time to let him go.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Samson Satele, Nice Pick up!
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:07 pm
If we fix the D with the top 3 picks, we can win our Division.
Raji
William Moore
And in the 3rd LB or DE, and the other in the 4th.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Ron Brace DT Boston College 6-3 330 2 5.48 32 28 3.16 1.88 08′03″ 4.73 8.16
B.J. Raji DT Boston College 6-2 337 1 5.12 33 32 2.98 1.69 08′07″ 4.68 7.90
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:08 pm
BJ Raji is a big dumb ni$$a. We don’t need him, Rey is the right pick.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:08 pm
brace is a 2 gap run defender seems like we can use one of those and crabtree first maybe
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:08 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Samson Satele, Nice Pick up!
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O really, thanks for the update DUMMY!
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:09 pm
I do not want Raji @7. But I have been looking at games, and body stats, and Raji IS legit!
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:09 pm
We need Lb’s and Wr’s!!!!
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Hopefully the Raiders get it together in time for that Monday night opener. The last several Monday night games have been atrocious. However, so have a lot of Sunday afternoon games.
Thanksgiving should be cool. Will have to tell the family/in-laws to bite me if they think I’m missing that one.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:10 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Samson Satele, Nice Pick up!
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Wow, thanks for the conjecture KoolKell. Any other comments of such a precise wealth of knowledge?
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Raji will be a bust. Rey Maualuga is legit!!!
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:10 pm
I would rather take Robiskie in the 2nd over Crab or Maclin in the 1st.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
RaiderO,
How long you been saying that?
You know there is two sides of the ball, right? Last I checked the Raider O wasnt lightn up the scoreboard.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
The pick is Crabtree. Get over it and move on.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Our FB needs an upgrade aswell.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
I Own MR Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Every scouting site out there has the Raiders number 1 need at WR. Not a one has DT listed. Only S&Bs Raider Report has DT listed.
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Only way Raji is not the pick is if:
1. Aaron Curry, Jason Smith, Eugene Monroe and maybe Brian Orakpo are still on the board. Raiders aren’t taking a receiver at #7
2. Raji is drafted before Raiders pick
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Raider O, check this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwJrEOtk41M
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Joey Bee 1 Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Our FB needs an upgrade aswell.
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You don’t like O’Neal?
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Luke Lawton….give me a break, we need a FB.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
With the pickup of Satele, I wonder if for some reason Cable didn’t like what he saw in Mack…?… hmm, makes one ponder of such thought.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
O’neal is injury prone.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Well then, if not Raji then:
1- Orakpo
2- William Moore
3- JB
4- T Taylor, NT from Mich
Do guys like this one better?
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Yeah forget what anybody on here say’s about who were gonna take with the 7# pick. We had what Rhodes,fargas and bush everyone said their not gonna pick dmac they have a bunch of rb and who did we take , so please spare me the no way they take Raji because of kelly,sands,warren please that is a horrible dt rotation and one that is destin to be bottom 5 in run d again!
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
S&B,
Y are you the ONLY draft expert saying Raji is the pick? Like I said find 1 other “expert” saying Raji or any other DT is the pick.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Cornell Green just fell to 3rd on the depth chart.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
draft maclin
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Good lord, do I have to do everything around here?
Mock Draft VI: Stafford holding steady
By National Football Post
Mar 17, 2:43 pm EDT
Buzz up!108 votes PrintThe NFL draft is still more than a month away, and each day brings new information about some of the nation’s top prospects. Here is National Football Post’s sixth mock draft of the season.
1. Detroit Lions: Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia
The Lions could go in a number of directions, but to start the re-building process, expect Detroit to opt for a quarterback. Stafford possesses the physical tools needed to develop into a NFL-quality passer and gives the Lions someone to build around.
2. St. Louis Rams: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
With the release of OT Orlando Pace and WR Torry Holt, the Rams have two significant holes to fill. Look for St. Louis to start from the inside and opt for an offensive tackle like Monroe.
3. Kansas City Chiefs: Aaron Curry, OLB, Wake Forest
Curry is one of the draft’s true “elite” prospects and should come in and contribute right away in Kansas City. He’s still in the mix for the first overall pick, but even if he doesn’t go No. 1, I don’t expect him to fall past the Chiefs.
Orakpo figures to go in the top 5.
(Brian Bahr/Getty)
4. Seattle Seahawks: Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
The Seahawks are desperately trying to improve their defensive line, and with the trade for DT Cory Redding this weekend, I don’t think B.J. Raji is in Seattle’s draft plans any longer. However, a pass rusher like Orakpo, who can play opposite DE Patrick Kerney, seems like a natural fit.
5. Cleveland Browns: Everette Brown, OLB, Florida State
Cleveland needs to add more weapons on the defensive side of the ball, and Brown has the pass-rush ability to warrant the selection. He’s a bit undersized but should fair well as a 3-4 OLB.
6. Cincinnati Bengals: Jason Smith, OT, Baylor
Cincinnati needs to improve the talent along its offensive line, and Smith has the athleticism to come in and play from Day 1. This pick would give the Bengals some much-needed flexibility up front and help stabilize their O-line.
7. Oakland Raiders: B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College
The Raiders have ranked in the bottom third in the league vs. the run the past five years and need to add more talent inside. Raji is a powerful, stout tackle who can consistently eat up blockers and push the pocket.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Maclin in first round
Ziggy Hood in Second
Loadholt in thrid
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:17 pm
NoMoreDouche,
Shut your hole. Almost every Mock in the world had the Raiders taking McFadden. Now go back to your trailer and shut up.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
By Star-Bulletin staff
POSTED: 11:32 a.m. HST, Mar 23, 2009
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Former Hawaii star Samson Satele is looking forward to starting at center for the Oakland Raiders, his agent, Leo Goeas told the Star-Bulletin this morning.
Goeas confirmed reports that Satele was traded from the Miami Dolphins — where he played every down last season as the team made it to the playoffs — to the Raiders for a sixth-round pick in next month’s draft and a swap of spots in the fourth round.
“Sam’s very excited to get to the west coast, closer to family and friends,” Goeas said. “And with the Raiders, he’s expected to start at center, be a Pro Bowl player and be the leader of the offensive line.”
The Dolphins wanted Satele, headed into his third NFL season, to move to guard, Goeas said.
Former Hawaii star Samson Satele is looking forward to starting at center for the Oakland Raiders, his agent, Leo Goeas told the Star-Bulletin this morning.
Goeas confirmed reports that Satele was traded from the Miami Dolphins — where he played every down last season as the team made it to the playoffs — to the Raiders for a sixth-round pick in next month’s draft and a swap of spots in the fourth round.
“Sam’s very excited to get to the west coast, closer to family and friends,” Goeas said. “And with the Raiders, he’s expected to start at center, be a Pro Bowl player and be the leader of the offensive line.”
The Dolphins wanted Satele, headed into his third NFL season, to move to guard, Goeas said.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:20 pm
why the hell hasnt anyone shown Ziggy any love
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:20 pm
How many DMunoz’ are there?
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Joey Bee 1 Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Luke Lawton….give me a break, we need a FB.
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I didn’t say Lawton, I said O’Neal. He was hurt all last year and healthy this year.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
#115, get him. plzzz
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
forget check his highlights for yourself
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
I hate the City of Oakhole! Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Joey Bee 1 Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Our FB needs an upgrade aswell.
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You don’t like O’Neal?
OO is a stud. Heart of a Lion.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
The Nfl have put us back on primetime hope it’s not Like last year primetime games when we were embarrased By San Diego and Denver,We need too show the nation That the silver and black are back!
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Its a real address if any of you are man enough you will come by….there is not one single person online that I am afraid of internet geeks are small, wimpy and lack self confidence.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:26 pm
afternoon NATION!!!
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:26 pm
SIDNEY DAVIS Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
The Nfl have put us back on primetime hope it’s not Like last year primetime games when we were embarrased By San Diego and Denver,We need too show the nation That the silver and black are back!
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They did? Said who? We are back on prime time again? Where is it posted? I did not know this.. Wow.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:26 pm
There are mock drafts that have Raji going to Oakland.
The reason why most pundits have Maclin or Crabtree is:
1. They look at the stats and see JLH as the leading receiver with 22 receptions and Schilens as a 7th rounder…what they don’t see is the performance in the 3 starts the two had. They make an implied assumption that the 22 receptions were the result of 16 starts.
2. Most pundits think Al Davis is so focused on flashy, speedy picks that he is not capable of drafting anything else. They’ve made Davis into some fantasy football caricuture that doesn’t know football and only looks at 40x.
I also see a lot of sites acknowledging a serious need for a DT
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:27 pm
SilverNBlack666 Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Its a real address if any of you are man enough you will come by….there is not one single person online that I am afraid of internet geeks are small, wimpy and lack self confidence.
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Please. Grow the fuk up man. You like 16 years old or something?
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:27 pm
He can be the perfect Base End for us, and Burgess and Scott on the other side.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:28 pm
S&B its more like this
1- LB Rey Maualuga
2- WR Patrick Turner
3- QB Tom Brandstater
4- FS David Bruton
5- CB Morgan Trent
6- G C.J. DAvis
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
NFL 2009 Consensus Mock Draft Round 1Consensus Mock Draft 2009 NFL Rev 28
Released March 23, 2009
Consensus Mock Draft #28 utilizes a newly revised Big Board which resulted in out computer model making a handful of round 1 changes. Most notably is Kansas City at #3 overall; the Chiefs have moved from OT Eugene Monroe to higher priority need 3-4 OLB Brian Orakpo.
We’re anticipated that the NFL will release compensatory selections sometime on Monday. Depending on when that occurs, Drafttek will generate a new CMD for release either late Monday or early Tuesday.
Pick Team Selection Psn School Delta
1 Detroit Aaron Curry OLB43 Wake Forest +0 Value
2 St Louis Jason Smith OT Baylor -1 Reach
3 Kansas City Brian Orakpo OLB34 Texas -4 Reach
4 Seattle Michael Crabtree WRF Texas Tech +2 Value
5 Cleveland Everette Brown OLB34 Florida State -4 Reach
6 Cincinnati Eugene Monroe OT Virginia +2 Value
7 Oakland BJ Raji DT43 Boston College +2 Value
http://www.drafttek.com/round12009.asp
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Ufck the police!!! Ok I said it!! It needed to be said..
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:30 pm
1- Raji
2- Gilbert, and I really liked Moore
3- Chung, or best S available
4- JB
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Besides McFadden and Russell, who’s jersey are you most likely to buy?
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:32 pm
I cant wait for the draft.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Satele for a six rounder? Pretty damn sweet! Al Davis has done it again!!
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Al,
Rey is the right pick.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Also, Mike Lombardi doesn’t believe Al Davis will draft a receiver in the 1st round. We all may have issues with Lombardi, but at least he was in the room.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:34 pm
# Joey Bee 1 Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Besides McFadden and Russell, who’s jersey are you most likely to buy?
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#81 chaz…
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Can we trade Fargas already.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Nnamdi’s, how can you forget about the best corner in the league?!?
Kirk
Thomas H
Miller
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:34 pm
How MEAN is the new guy, Samson we got from the Phins?
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:35 pm
SilverNBlack666 Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Its a real address if any of you are man enough you will come by….there is not one single person online that I am afraid of internet geeks are small, wimpy and lack self confidence.
I am a small, wimpy geek, lacking in self confidence.
That’s why I’m going to BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN.
ps. I hope you don’t have kids.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:35 pm
408RAIDER(GO SHARKS & FREE DIRTY) Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:34 pm
# Joey Bee 1 Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Besides McFadden and Russell, who’s jersey are you most likely to buy?
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#81 chaz…
That’s not saying much.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Joey Bee 1 Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:28 pm
S&B its more like this
1- LB Rey Maualuga
2- WR Patrick Turner
3- QB Tom Brandstater
4- FS David Bruton
5- CB Morgan Trent
6- G C.J. DAvis
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They might as well trade all of their 2009 picks for 2010 picks if this draft comes true.
Rey can be a good MLB and would help the Raiders. Of course he has weaknesses. He’s no Aaron Curry
The rest of your picks would have zero impact on the field in 2009
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Chaz, but I’m bias. I go to SDSU.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
I will also buy a Bush jersey.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
JB1
also Nnamdi #21
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Bush
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
# 909raiderlifer Says:
March 23rd 2009 at 3:34 pm
How MEAN is the new guy, Samson we got from the Phins?
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Very mean, very aggressive, very smart. Fast off the ball. Was rated one of the strongest centers in the draft two years ago. This might be one of those circumstances, where Jake Grove was an Eastern guy, who was on the wrong coast, and Satele was a Pacific Islander guy, and he was on the wrong coast. Sometimes, guys just want to play closer to home.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
I don’t understand how Curry is getting more hype then Maualuga? This is a travesty.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
# Joey Bee 1 Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Besides McFadden and Russell, who’s jersey are you most likely to buy?
__________
Howie Long throwback.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Here is a Raji/Brace clip from the same guys that did the Gilbert video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f2Quka5DSs&feature=channel
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:41 pm
oh were doing throw backs??
Tatum
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Patrick Turner had the best workout at the combine. I have him in the top 5 WR’s coming out this year.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Joey Bee 1 Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Besides McFadden and Russell, who’s jersey are you most likely to buy?
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Nnamdi 21
Kirk 52
Thomas H 53
Miller 80
Bush 29
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
I’ll go out and buy a Schilens #81 jersey. The league is going to get a good intro to him this fall
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Guys, no throw backs. Im looking for modern day NFL ICONS on our team.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:43 pm
#125
I read Jason Smith came to terms with the Lions today so so much for your mock draft….
Just goes to show no Just when you think you know the answers Al Davis changes all the questions…..
My pick…BPA baby…BPA
Best Player Available just incase you didnt know….
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:43 pm
The only Schilens’ jerseys in existence are the ones issued to him for game day.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
you can get 1 made @ Nfl.com
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
SilverNBlack666 Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Its a real address if any of you are man enough you will come by….there is not one single person online that I am afraid of internet geeks are small, wimpy and lack self confidence.
Fire? Fire? Did anybody say fire?
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Hey, MR……
Good. The more MEAN Linemen we can get the better.
Just as long as they’re not so MEAN, that they hit chicks w/ mop handles…..
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
So we have…
Nnamdi 21
Kirk 52
Thomas H 53
Miller 80
Bush 29
Chaz 81
Russell 2
McFadden 20
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:47 pm
408RAIDER(GO SHARKS & FREE DIRTY) Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:41 pm
oh were doing throw backs??
Tatum
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Throw Backs, why not
Tatum 32
Atkinson 43
Brown 24
Long 75
Fred B 25
Branch 21
Stabler 12
Bo 34
Tim Brown 81
those are my favorite throw backs, and the double 00.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Throwback Jerseys?
I gotta go with Najee Mustafa or Dan Land. Maybe throw in a Darren Carrington or Marquez Pope.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:47 pm
S&B… there is some truth to what you’re saying about people looking at JLH’s and Schilens’ stats and looking no deeper. There are also people that have made Al Davis into a cartoon character, with the traits you mention.
The reality of the situation is that what we have at the WR position is two promising young guys and a whole lot of wishful thinking. People who see beyond the wishful thinking part also see that we have a big, strong-armed QB and an owner that likes to throw the ball. They see that owner hiring Ted Tollner of Air Coryell fame, and they see that, very possibly the best player in the entire draft is a wide receiver that also very possibly will be available when the Raiders pick at #7. They also see that the Raiders have three returning starters (rotationally) at defensive tackle, and all three are being paid very well.
That’s why people are saying we will take a WR first. Because it makes sense.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:47 pm
I’ll sport a Lechler jersey.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:47 pm
I think this might be the year we actually trade back for the first time in NFL history….
I just have a feeling….
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:49 pm
what about the WIZ or Mosebar???
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
I guess you whimps don’t know what the 666 stands for do you?
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Kiffin article for those that care:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/11519221
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
No one said Fargas, time to let him go.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
666’s BBQ – Midnight tonight @ 1919 fruitdale ave. San Jose.
Bring everything you want to BURN.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Plunket # 16.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Joey Bee 1 Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Guys, no throw backs. Im looking for modern day NFL ICONS on our team.
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so I would take Chaz Off till next year, I’m bias.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
A #12 Donald Hollas throwback for me. yes sir, one of the greatest Raider QB’s of all time.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
What does it stand for?
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Throwbacks?
Otto.
Stabler.
Tatum.
Freddie B.
Bo.
Looking to add..
Casper.
Davidson.
Tooz.
Sistrunk.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
2 many old players to name….
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
I just want to see Russell run the no huddle offense like Gannon did in 2002. If he can do that, I don’t care who we take.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Crabtree or Maualuga?
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Dakota Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Kiffin article for those that care:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/11519221
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Nope, nobody cares. Thanks for being the first and only idiot to post an article about that moron that actually defends him? Kiffin man crush eh Dakota? Not enough love to go ’round in the Dakotas?
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Ok Ok Ok, hold your horses, no one said anything about cutting Fargas.
he restructured his deal and he can be a great change back behind DMC and Bush. The kid does every thing we ask of him, and he is from USC. we need 3 RBs.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Maualuga.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Casper, I forgot Casper.
GHOST TO THE POST.
I’m sorry Casper.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Al,
Bring Rey to OAktown baby.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:57 pm
It stands for the devil sonny
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:58 pm
yo Dakota did the blizzard get ya???
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:59 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9YFREzmkcs&feature=related
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Joey Bee 1 Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
I just want to see Russell run the no huddle offense like Gannon did in 2002. If he can do that, I don’t care who we take.
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Listen to your QB: CHILL, WE GOT THIS. The mas is destined for greatness.
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:03 pm
#36 Clem Daniels.
#44 Marv Hubbard.
#45 Dave Grayson.
#63
#78
#37
Just to name a few (more).
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Pay attention Cyber-Dorks young and old -
Discussing which jersey you plan on wearing – throwback or other – is unnacceptable for anyone over the age of 15. That includes all of you, except for Brian who’s average of brain development plus actual physical age is only 11. As usual, I’ll cut him a break.
Now all of you get back to making those Slushies and leave the jersey role playing to the 9th graders. Those would be the kids who ride their skateboards in front of your “office” starting around 3:15.
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Why is that guy posting stuff about Kiffin?
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Where’s the love for the JLH #15?
Pro-bowl returner next year
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Beeecham… STFU, ok? Nobody cares whether you approve or not.
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Raider O Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Joey Bee 1 Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
I just want to see Russell run the no huddle offense like Gannon did in 2002. If he can do that, I don’t care who we take.
^^^^^
I agree, thats another element of the offense that Coach Cable needs to work on is Russell running the no huddle.
The no huddle is a great tactic that can be used to keep defenses off balance!
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Speaking of Young Lance….
Lance, will be on am570radio.com @ 5:30p.m. PDT
If, you want to hear the punk lie some more.
Ice COLD beer time. Take care, all…
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Opening up the season on a Monday Night in PrimeTime fashion is GREAT…When you’re actually good. It pisses me off that our team gets so much pressure put on it with these beginning games each season. I want to be happy but we get embarrassed too often because we just haven’t been good enough for primetime and the NFL continuously throws us out there like they want to see us get beat down early so we can’t ever recover. I really hope this is the year we can be happy with the results.
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:17 pm
its ok, once we draft maclin and ziggy from the MIZ, no one will mess with our offense and we will see just how stout The Killer Kirk Morrison is
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Cable will have the troops ten times more ready than Lance did last Monday night opener.
No Lance, Deangelo and Rob Ryan this Monday night opener; it will be a much different ball-game.
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
On a brighter note. I’m stoked that the Raiders are playing on Thanksgiving against the Cowboys. My brother is a huge Cowboys fan so dinner is either going to taste great or I’ll end up throwing up my food. We’ll see.
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Hopefully having John Marshall alone can get the job done.
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Burgess-DE
Kelly-DT
Hood-DT
Scott-DE
Sacks, Sacks and more Sacks!!!
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Lil Eddie I’m sure you’ve gone through life making all the right decisions, which is why you’ve ended up a full grown man discussing what kind of football jersey you’d wear with other men on an internet blog.
Anyway I’ll continue to give you instruction from time to time when needed, no thanks neccessary. Just me being a cool brah.
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Samson Satele
2008 Scouting Report – Scouts Inc.
Grade: 79 | Key
Alert: None
Comment: Satele is coming off a very solid rookie season where he was one of the bright spots in a dismal Dolphins season. He has adequate size with good strength and athleticism. He was a versatile player coming out of college, who played center, guard and tackle. He can snap and step well to gain leverage in a confined area. He works with great body balance and positioning. He uses his hands well and runs his feet to stay connected. Samson is a hard-nosed intense blocker who finishes often.
He has good pop and punch with his hands to engage defenders as well as solid foot agility and lateral quickness at the point of attack. Satele can pull and get on the perimeter when uncovered and is able to hit a target downfield. He has power on combination blocks to get movement on interior zone-running plays. He can scoop block on the backside or chip to the second level on combination blocks. Satele is a solid gun snapper with consistent quickness and accuracy. He is a smart player who shows great awareness and reactions to changing fronts as well as blitz packages.
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
That is what I like about some of the bloggers on this site…Al Davis could draft or sign Peewee Herman to play center and its a coup. Their glass is always half full and mine is always half empty when it comes to signing huge risks.
I want a dominant “O” line not the rejects from other teams because the band aid approach to the “O” line by Al Davis has reaped 6 straight years of 11 or more losses.
Taken from an article posted by Ted Hutton from the SunSentinal.com about Samson Setele.
But the Dolphins were concerned about the way Satele was pushed around by some nose tackles, and that is why they signed former Raider Jake Grove to a five-year, $29 million deal on March 3.
Satele (6 feet 3, 300) is not much smaller than the 29-year-old Grove (6-4, 300), and Grove has played in every regular-season game just once in his five NFL seasons, but the Dolphins obviously believe Grove will be able to fend off the likes of the Patriots’ Vince Wilfork and the Jets’ Kris Jenkins.
Satele’s agent, Leo Goeas, said his client played much of last season with a shoulder injury, and that could explain his problem in handling his position.
“I didn’t know how bad it was until he had an MRI taken. I don’t know how he played with it. There was a chunk of bone that had broken loose and taken part of his labrum with it,” Goeas said.
Satele had surgery about a week after the end of the season, Goeas said, and is going through rehabilitation now and should be ready for the start of the season.
“If he is healthy, he can go up against any nose tackle,” Goeas said.
Goeas said Satele was not surprised by the trade, since the Dolphins had made it clear by acquiring Grove that Satele was not part of their future plans at center.
Just draft Andre Smith and Alex Mack, then go after defensive linemen Al….the war is won in the trenches but not with mediocre, injured cast offs from other teams!
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
CAREER NOTES:
Satele holds the school career-record by starting 53 consecutive games for the Warriors… That streak was the longest among all active players in the NCAA Division 1-A ranks in 2006…Did not allow an opponent to register any statistics in seven games during his first year as a full-time starter at center in 2006…A colorful character, Satele lives up to his first name, as he has not had his hair cut since enrolling at Hawaii in 2002.
AGILITY TESTS
Campus: 5.17 in the 40-yard dash…420-pound bench press…Bench presses 225 pounds 29 times…405-pound squat…27-inch vertical jump…8′2″ broad jump…30 3/4-inch arm length…9 3/4-inch hands…Right-handed…16/33 Wonderlic score.
http://foxsports.foxnews.com/other/story/8025354/Samson-Satele-Scouting-Report
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Jake Grove
2008 Scouting Report – Scouts Inc.
Grade: 68 | Key
Alert: None
Comment: Grove is a decent-sized center who has a lot of position versatility going for him having played both guard positions as well as center. He has played in all 16 games just once. He is slotted to be a backup to newly signed John Wade and could be in for the battle of his career as he tries to stay healthy through training camp. He understands angles and blocking schemes and does a good job of keeping his weight over his feet and under control.
He shows good quickness off the snap and can step simultaneously with the snap to get out to the second level or to come out on the pull to lead the play. He is a good technician and does a good job of using his hands to control and steer opponents. He is not real strong or powerful and can be pushed back into the pocket by a good bull rush. He really needs to concentrate on using his leverage to bow up and hold his ground. He will fight and scratch to get the job done and plays with a good temperament.
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Beeecham… actually, I don’t wear throwback jerseys. I wear a black sweatshirt or a gray one on gamedays, but that’s about it. And I can tell you that any decision I make will not be made because of what some self-appointed fashion geek says on an internet blog.
My point was it’s none of your damn business what somebody wears on game day. You don’t like throwback jerseys? Don’t wear one. Otherwise, STFU.
That’s just me being cool, BRAH.
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
# Beeeecham Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Pay attention Cyber-Dorks young and old -
Discussing which jersey you plan on wearing – throwback or other – is unnacceptable for anyone over the age of 15. That includes all of you, except for Brian who’s average of brain development plus actual physical age is only 11. As usual, I’ll cut him a break.
Now all of you get back to making those Slushies and leave the jersey role playing to the 9th graders. Those would be the kids who ride their skateboards in front of your “office” starting around 3:15.
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fine i want a nnamdi jersey
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Evander “Ziggy” Hood
Analysis
Positives: More than the sum of his parts. … Legitimate NFL size. … Plays with a passionate, physical style. … Locates the ball quickly and pursues well down the line. … Flashes initial burst off the snap and the lateral quickness to make plays behind the line of scrimmage. … Recognizes the trap block and can burst through the hole to make the play behind the line of scrimmage. … Physical at the point. … Seems to enjoy the hand-to-hand combat in the trenches and doesn’t back down from contact. … Active hands and can disengage from blocks due to his hand play. … Durable performer. … Showed great toughness in 2006, missing only three games after breaking his foot and having a screw inserted, before returning to play the final seven games at less than 100 percent.
Negatives: Lacks the elite explosiveness or strength usually associated with highly rated defensive tackles. … Only moderate initial quickness. … Flashes the lateral quickness to elude and collapse the pocket, but is too inconsistent in that area. … Often plays too high and loses leverage, negating his own strength and size. … Missed three full games and parts of others in 2006 with a broken foot suffered midway through the season.
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:34 pm
they love to make us sukk dikk on the 1st monday night.
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
do we ever not play a first place team in week 1?
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
I can’t believe the Browns are considering trading Braylon Edwards. Hes a really good receiver on a team that has lacked consistent QB play. A 2nd round pick for Edwards and its gold.
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:38 pm
make the deal!
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:40 pm
The Browns wanted a 2nd, 5th and Steve Smith from the Giants (per PFT). Way too much for the Raiders who have so many other needs to worry about.
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:42 pm
If he is not the asset for center, then why did we trade for him!!!!????? We can pick a backup center in the 6th or 7th. Satele will start at C.
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:45 pm
I love the speculation on this board, but we’ve still got plenty of time yet until the draft and just as today shows, Al and the Cable Guy have more moves to make.
I’m loving the new (correct) method they’re taking to putting the team together. Samson Satele I stick to my story. I’m jamaican, lord a mercy.
Add the Monday night opener and the Silver and Black on Turkey day and today has been a good day.
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Going to throttle SD on Monday night. The world will bear witness to the Raider rebirth as they unleash their offensive weapons upon the world.
Its what we’ve been waiting for all these years…
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:48 pm
#24 Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
I can’t believe the Browns are considering trading Braylon Edwards. Hes a really good receiver on a team that has lacked consistent QB play. A 2nd round pick for Edwards and its gold.
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Edwards led the League in dropped passes last year.
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:56 pm
# Was ist los? Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:45 pm
I love the speculation on this board, but we’ve still got plenty of time yet until the draft and just as today shows, Al and the Cable Guy have more moves to make.
I’m loving the new (correct) method they’re taking to putting the team together. Samson Satele I stick to my story. I’m jamaican, lord a mercy.
Add the Monday night opener and the Silver and Black on Turkey day and today has been a good day.
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Luton Sheldon rocks!
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:57 pm
I would disagree with Scout .coms assesment of Grove’s second level abilities.
Maybe in college, but the last few years, he’s constantly beaten like a drum by linebackers. He doesn’t get there more than he does.
Had knee surgery in the off season last year and may finally be healed up this season, but wore out his welcome in Oakland especially after the adoption of the more mobile ZBS.
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Hope the Raiders take advantage of their high profile games showcase their awesome offensive fire power.
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Joey Bee 1 Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Besides McFadden and Russell, who’s jersey are you most likely to buy?
Henery Lawrence
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Lil Eddie, what you wear on gameday is your business and I trust that you’ll make an informed decision. Like the informed decision you made today to engage in a serious discussion about it on an internet football blog.
However, my friend, I’ll be keeping a close eye on you. I’d hate to have you show up pantless to the season opener because you forgot to get opinions from your fellow bloggers on blue jean options.
Keep it real, broham.
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Edwards is second to Terrell Owens in drops over the past two seasons (20), but we must conclude that a receiver must be pretty good if he sees as many passes come his way as Edwards does. With 16 touchdowns and 1,289 yards receiving, Edwards was a breakout stud in ‘07, developing tremendous rapport with quarterback Derek Anderson on deep balls and making highlight-reel catches every other week. A poster child for the third-year receiver leap, Edwards figures to be awesome again in ‘08 with his quarterback, running back and offensive line intact, and Donte’ Stallworth a legitimate threat opposite him. He’ll be in the top 10 in targets again and he will continue to put maturity questions behind him. Edwards is an obvious No. 1 fantasy receiver.
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:08 pm
He might be worth a look. Maybe a 3rd and Stanford Routte? If we can get the right price for him why not right? I heard the Bucs traded a 2nd and 3rd for Winslow so it might be alot more for Edwards. Edwards is a big physical receiver, if we were to couple him with someone other than Joe Jurivicious he should see alot more oppourtunities. Him and Crabtree would be a deadly combo.
Ive officially jumped ship, I want Crabtree if you couldnt tell. Why? We are set at LT with Henderson from what Cable and Davis have said, and the 3rd round price is welcomed to Davis over a huge first round selection. Davis has the oppourtunity to have some of the best college players at their position in recent years. Russell, Dmac, Bush, and Crabs and Miller is one deadly offense. Thats an offense that could dominate the league for years to come. As for the line over the future, with the exception of Clady only George Foster and Gosder Cherilus has been selected in the first round to play for a ZBS team, except Clady neither two have done anything special. Id like to see us get some later round players, maybe even as early as round two like Jamon Meredith or Max Unger. Our pass offense is just as bad as our run defense if not worse, and since first round wont fix our line, we should get Crabtree and lets get some TDdddsss
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:10 pm
If he can’t hold on to Anderson’s lobs he sure as hell won’t even see Russell’s rockets so I say HELL NO!!
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Let’s see, prime time opener against Norv, turkey day in Dallas, can a Xmas night game in Denver or Pittsburg be there also? How about Dec in NY or Baltimore as well? Second game should be the home opener for either Haley or McDaniels.
Yup, another cupcake schedule.
Strap it on say “fyck it” boys. Man up and move on.
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:12 pm
here is one more http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/draft
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Beeecham… thank you for your faith in my judgement, although I don’t recall a serious discussion. I think I just pointed out that what a person wears on gameday is their business and not yours.
If I get stuck on what pants to wear, though, I’ll let you know. You seem to know what’s cool and what’s not.
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:14 pm
stop the run
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:17 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AlJzSVVHhzJ2RaahqHoXTXXXb6x_?slug=ys-mockdraftvi031709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns…. stop the run
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Nnamdi21,
Braylon Edwards is just another example of hype. people sometimes act as if he’s the second coming of Isaac Bruce when in fact he is just another example of a rather ordinary receiver on a bad team. WRs are such a tiresome act and I blame much on the BSPN types for over-acknowledging the value of such players.
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Glover Quin, S We need a Lobo on this team and not a prob in the later rounds.
Anyone know if we got any compensatory picks? I wouldn’t bet on it with the spree last year.
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Edward
If we even had a hint at an 8-8 season over the past six years I might want to take a shot at Crabtree.
The fact remains that we have been horrible over the past six years. It hurts me to say it but we are the laughing stock of the NFL until we prove otherwise.
Moss and Collins did not work because our offensive line was awful.
We are retooling our Oline because it needs substantial improvement. Their play was not acceptable. We were crushed by big physical defensive teams. Our passing scheme was very limited because of a poor Oline and a developing QB.
As bad as that is our defensive line is pathetic.
Everyone on our Dline with the exception of Burgess
is a cast off or day two pick.
For the past five years we have gotten progressively worse against the run and we have given up more rushing touchdowns than any team in the NFL over the past six years.
Skill guys are always fun to talk about the game is one at the line of scrimmage.
Until the line units improve we will continue to lose.
I for one am tired of waiting.
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:22 pm
I had to correct your first paragraph Jerry, just inserted a couple of WINs there:
The Raiders will WIN their first Thanksgiving Day game in 39 years in Dallas against the Cowboys and also will open the season on Monday night with a home game WIN against the San Diego Chargers as the NFL announced its prime time schedule on its Web site.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
No comp picks per PFT
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:30 pm
ELI PORTER
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:31 pm
# 249 well said d-line may not be the “sexy” pick but it is the biggest must on the team
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Kelly is a solit DT/DE forget where he was picked and Warren was the 3rd overall pick in the draft. Warren isn’t an every down guy however but he’s a solid backup DT and Trevor Scott is a heck of a situational DE with plenty of upside because he didn’t start playing D till college
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Maclin/Hood
The Tiger Connection
Instant Upgrades
I cant believe that no one agrees
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:41 pm
In one word
31st in rush defense having gotten worse for five consective seasons.
More rushing touchdowns given up than any team in the NFL over the past six years.
Rarely bring pressure without rushing five or more.
It all starts with the front four and they are bad.
The results speak for themselves.
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:42 pm
OL and DL are more important than wide receivers but you need a go to receiver to win the Superbowl Kurt had Fitzgerald and Roth has Hines Ward. Miller is a heck of a receiver but he’s not Tony Gonzalez or Antonio Gates when it comes to simply receiving. Would be nice to get a Braylon, Boldin, or Holt in offseason then go Raji/Rey/or Cushing in Rd1. I would be suprised if we didn’t make the playoffs with that scenario
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:46 pm
moving the chains wins football game.The long pass looks good on sport center that night but playing sound def will win you more games over a season then the bomb.with that said keeping the def on the field to long doesnt help…so you need more 3 and outs to give the off better support. We must stop the run better to give us any chance of a good year
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Don’t rely so much on the stats tho as I remember watching the games and our D hung on until late in games cuz they were worn out. If Russell had Tim Brown the D could have held on. What about Russell’s passing touchdowns? Passer rating? I think Russell’s gonna be a good quarterback but was it entirely his fault his TD and passer ratings are so low? He still needs a #1 receiver for us to win the superbowl but I’m a D first guy and there are some can’t miss D prospects Rey/Cushing and I think Raji but I guess what worries me about Raji is what Glenn Dorsey did. I still beleive Dorsey will be a good player if he stays healthy but there’s the bust possibility and Dorsey looked even better than Raji does though I think Raji will pan out
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:52 pm
NOW SHOVE THAT FUKIN TURDUCKIN UP YOUR BUTT!
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Scoring TD’s wins games.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Braylon Edwards might have been 2nd in the league in drops but I remember Tim Brown dropping alot of passes in his day, sometimes during key moments. He would have random losses in focus. Hes still one of the all time greats but I have no idea what his numbers looked like compared, I just remember the drops. Ricky Dudley stole the show when he came to town however.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Great, we get to get waxed again on opening Monday night. This is just the NFL messing with us. Why do they give us one of the most important games of the year for us on the 1st day, as if our schedule wasn’t hard enough already. The opening game gives a team a lot of momentum, the last time we won our 1st game we went to the superbowl.(I don’t know if this is true, it’s just the last time I remember us winning the 1st game) This is the schedulers having a laugh, hopefuly we can catch them off guard like the Donkeys caught us off guard last year. Or at least we better hope that we are on our guard in the 1st game next year. That loss to the Doinks set the tone for our entire season,(thigs did get better once CJ took over opposite Nnamdi though) But still, the Chargers have been kicking our a$$es for years, How many consecutive losses do we have to them? 12? 13? something like that… I know we ave to play them twice a year anyway, but I just don’t like the idea of us playing the 1st monday night game of the year against an AFC West rival,…AGAIN. What the Fck? Why didn’t they give this game to a different division this year? I hope we can surprise them, but they are the best team in our division.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Timmy cought em on 3rd down huff….
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Having Pro Bowlers at every position, Scoring TD’s, A Defensive that wins championships and a great special teams also wins games.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:05 pm
408 – I was young and nieve maybe…but I do remember the drops. =)
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Charlie… don’t disagree with you about the lines, although I think our O-line is much better now than it was when Collins and Moss were here. I also think it performed pretty well the last six games of the year, and the numbers back that up. I posted earlier today that we were top ten in the NFL in rushing and fewest sacks given up over that span, and I believe Davis and Cable have upgraded there this offseason.
As for the defense, as I’ve said before, I will defer to someone that knows Marshall’s scheme and how he plans to use the personnel we have. I don’t think Ryan knew what the hell he was doing running a 4-3; you can blame Al for keeping him here, you can blame him for staying, whatever. I just don’t think we know what the defensive plan is yet so we can’t really say who should stay and who should go, or who should be brought in.
What I do know is that we have more than just a first round pick, and my saying that I’d take Crabtree at #7 doesn’t in any way mean that I don’t think there’s work to be done elsewhere.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:07 pm
kk: Stopping them more then we have been will win more
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Imagine this people…We win opening night. Just imagine it. We haven’t beaten the freakin Chargers in God knows how long (And they still haven’t won a Superbowl). Beating them after all this time would give the team such a boost and could launch us into a win streak. If anything, maybe we could simply win the Division and that could put us in the playoffs. Norv is bound to wreak the Chargers, their talent can only keep it going for so long. Their due for a fuked season.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:09 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Scoring TD’s wins games.
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not entirely wrong or true =)
having most points when the game ends, wins games..
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Sounds like the 76′ Raiders.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:09 pm
24…
word he dropped some but I sure wish we had a WR close to the great Tim Brown…
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:11 pm
yo LMN
who do you want with the #7 pick?? I want anybody but a DB…
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:13 pm
I see Raiders didnt get any comp. picks…
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Edward Teach – I see it the way you do. To me, if the team doesn’t get Crabtree, I’m ok with that because I understand we have other needs but its really hard to be sold on Walker, Higgins and Schilens. Anything can happen but Walker has alot to prove. Higgins has become a playmaker but is he a #1 receiver? Schilens had his moments but disappeared in many others. Theres no telling what we’re truly going to get from this group. Adding Crabtree could only help and hes the kind of talent that “should” give us a #1 Threat for at least 10 years. Everyone else is questionable.
I was against going for McFadden until I realized the kind of weapon he can be on offense and I feel the same for Crabtree. He would be a great compliment to Higgins who is the deep threat. JR needs some reliable hands on an everydown basis outside of Miller. This will hopefully be one of our last drafts picking in the Top 10 so lets get that Top 10 WR while we can. If we don’t go that route, I’d like to see get one of the top Offensive Tackles available or Maualuga for the prescence he could bring to us on defense that we have lacked for awhile.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
408…
Trade down
(a seldom graphic smiley on my behalf)
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
408 – No worries. Next years #1 Draft pick is Taylor Mays haha. Mays thought he could avoid us this year but Davis will find a way.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:16 pm
408..
but if not, then Jason Smith, Andre Smith, Raj or something, really dont have an opinion, becaue I hate the early picks…
I would love to trade down and get Brian Cushing…
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:17 pm
I say Raji, Crabtree, or trade down with the #7, and since Al will not trade down the pick should be the names I mentioned above, in that order, but I believe that even if both of them were on the board, then Al would pick Maclin. He has had a brilliant offseason thus far, but I think it will all come crashing down come draft day. He will make the dumbest decision in a long time when he officially announces that he is taking another fast WR over one who is clearly better in every aspect of the position other than speed. Anyone that doubts the speed of Crabtree needs to look at his youtube clips. I know that youtube could make MR’s grandma look good, but just look at how fat Crab gets from mid field to the endzone, who gives a fck abot a 40 time, what Crab has is called football speed. That’s what you need, not track stars.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:17 pm
BTW people…If you haven’t gotten Google Chrome as your web browser, you should check it out. Its ALOT faster than Internet Explorer and I like it over Mozilla because its more simple.
. If anything, research it or check it out, its cool.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:19 pm
How fast* not how fat* lol
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Crabtree is Jerry Rice like in the way he plays. He may never live up to that but thats what he reminds me off.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:20 pm
The people here who endlessly argue for months about who the Raiders should pick at 7, are like drunks yelling “Play Freebird” at a rock concert.
The funniest part is neither Crabtree or Raji will be availale at 7.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:20 pm
everybody misses the point with the run defense.it`s the players.no real run stopping DE.no real two gap NT.no real SLB.that`s why they rank between 27-32 4 years in a row.but the worst stat over the last 4 years is 27-32 in rushing att`s against,27-32 in lease passing att`s against.teams game plan to run the ball against the raiders it will not change until they invest in some d-lineman in the first two rounds of the draft.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:20 pm
I would take Crabtree but he is definately slower than Maclin but we have our own “proven” Maclin in Higgins. If you watch YouTube on Crabtree and then on Maclin, you will see that Maclin is a burner but thats not the point. He’s productive and thats all that matters.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:21 pm
I’m skeptical of Raji.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:22 pm
I like Ziggy Hood….but I’m not high on taking Maclin #7 overall since his skills are the same and very similar to JLH’s skills.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:28 pm
I bet one or the other will be there @7 Milo…
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:29 pm
LMN…
Im down with mack just cuz he’s a CAL guy… but if its cabtree Ill be fine with that also. Look at McFadden game breakers aint isht without a good Oline or they cant stay healthy..
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:30 pm
trade down and get Cushing, he’s a star and gives us the best lb core in the game plus an extra pick
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:32 pm
The lines need to get BIGGER, TOUGHER, NASTIER and more DISCIPLINED and be IN SHAPE!
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:34 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UQ2YGE9SLM
B.J. Raji
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:37 pm
One thing I like about the Raji footage is his explosiveness. He bull rushes and pushes the offensive lineman back with tenacity and when he tackles, he wraps really well. That part reminds me of Albert Haynesworth but the problem is I’m seeing all the good footage. I wonder if hes consistent. Also, will he turn into a Warren Sapp at the next level where he just constantly blows past all the running plays and isn’t effective?
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Voldemort, You call yourself a Raider fan?
So we are going to get “waxed” by the Chargers?
The Chargers went 8-8 last year. Maybe you should wait for the pre season before you start worring about getting waxed by an 8 – 8 team.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:39 pm
We’ve had some good debates over the emphasis of the O-line over playmakers for offense (both Super Bowl teams last year had great receivers and average at best O-lines, Plax and Moss the year before).
But there is no debate that having a solid and deep D-LINE has been a common thread amongst most of the Super Bowl representatives of late (Both AZ and Pitt have good D-lines; Giants best in the league).
The best available D-liner at #7 has to be the pick, DE or DT. I wouldn’t mind Crabs, but I would rather have Raji, Orakpo or Brown.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:44 pm
I’m considered with Orakpo because he looks more like a 3-4 OLB. I don’t want that on my defensive line.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:45 pm
What up Nation,
Looks like we got our starting center.
60th pick overall in 2007.
I’ve read that Samson played most of last season with a shoulder injury that required surgery.
This might explain why He had difficulty last year with the larger DT’s.
If fully recovered this might be our Alex Mack.
Cable is supposedly high on this guy as well.
I’d be suprised if the Raiders draft a C now.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:47 pm
I mean concerned.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Milo, did you see the game last time we played the Chargers? Yeah, when I see a team COMPLETELY DOMINATE US like that, it kinda makes me worry about playing them a little you ignorant fool. Do some homework dumba$$.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:50 pm
If we draft a DE he’s gotta be a base end that is tough against the run.
If He can rush the QB thats a bonus.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:52 pm
i still would`nt be suprised if the raiders draft alec flecther from stanford in the 7th and groomed him for 1 year than move samson to guard in 2010.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Milo, those SD Chargers sure did look terrible smashing their way through the Colts right into the AFC championship huh? I only wish we we as “bad” as them you fukin idiot.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Voldemort, yes, I did see that game LASTYEAR.
This year will be different.
Don’t be scared.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Good conversation. Got to go.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Hey Voldy, I would go easy on the insults, unless you want me to BURN your trailer down.
Go Raiders!
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:58 pm
blackdeath29 Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:52 pm
i still would`nt be suprised if the raiders draft alec flecther from stanford in the 7th and groomed him for 1 year than move samson to guard in 2010
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Death29, Mabey. I hear Samson is versatile. But it also sounds as though one of his strenghts is his ability to recognize D fronts and callout adjusments.
Either way, sounds like we’ve got a keeper with plenty of tread one the tires.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:58 pm
The director of the youtube video needs to be fired. not many plays against double teams, and too many plays against garbage competition. they even showed him on plays when the other team scored, and ran sucessful screen plays. What’s the point of showing that?
Not impressed.
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Milo
You’re right, it will be different this time. This time LT and Gates will be HEALTHY. I don’t want to sound pesamistic or negative, but you just sound ignorant and stupid when you underestamate the Chargers. I fcking hate them, but you can’t take away the fact that they consistantly go deep into the playoffs. They are a good team, and underestamating that fact may very well be the reason the Raiders always get their a$$ beat by them.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:00 pm
We need run-stuffers and someone to provide a consistent pass-rush.
How many more 3rd and 12’s must we watch when the QB has all-day in the pocket and eventually finds a guy open in the middle of the field for a first. Trevor Scott almost single-handly won the Jets game with two huge 3rd down sacks. A consisten pass-rush is our second biggest weakness on the team, IMO.
Our O-line dominated a few games last year (Texans, Bucs, first KC game) but our D-line never came close to dominating a game.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:02 pm
205:
Im 40, well educated, and love wearing my howie long autographed HOF jersey for raiders games
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:02 pm
So we gave up a 4th and 6th round pick for Satele? That means he will start, we won’t pick Mack (probably won’t be there anyway), so do we go D-Line in the second round now, assuming we go WR in the first?
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:04 pm
dikembesaysno Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:02 pm
So we gave up a 4th and 6th round pick for Satele? That means he will start, we won’t pick Mack (probably won’t be there anyway), so do we go D-Line in the second round now, assuming we go WR in the first?
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A 6th round pick and we will swap positions with Miami in round 4.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:05 pm
So it’s officialy round 4 that we swap with them in? When was this news disclosed?
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:06 pm
284
teams run the ball against us as they knew our O couldnt keep up in high scoring games – our rush D except for 3 games, was good for 35-45 minutes until all the three and outs by our O tired our D out- when we score 25 pts a game, teams cant just run against us and the same rush D we have now will look better- if you take avg yards/carry by quarter and compare to any other team- it will likley prove this out
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Ah thanks for the clarification on that
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Not much risk in this trade. Swapping 4th rounders is almost meaningless, and 6th rounders rarely make the team or stick in the league. This Satele has proven to be AT LEAST a serviceable back-up, and possibly a legitimate NFL starter. Not guaranteed anything close to that with a 6th rounder.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Voldy, The Raiders are going to beat the Chargers on Monday night. Maybe you haven’t noticed but the Chargers are on a downward slide.
I’m sorry for you that you are so worried about playing the Chargers on opening night, I’m looking forward to it.
If you are so certain that the Chargers are going to “wax” us, as you say, perhaps you’d like to put a wager on it.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:10 pm
So hows everyones bracket?…my elite 8 is still intact,..of the sweet 16 I still have 13,..not too bad,…by the way I scored a pair of diamond seats for the A`s opener,…cant wait for that,…as you all are aware I of course have Raider season tix, but I also have a mini plan for the A`s,..all Yankkes,Bosox, and Giants games as well as all fireworks games and the home opener…hey man this world baseball classic on right now,..Korea vs Japan,..thankfully they have the countries on their uniforms,..Im doubting I would know who was who,..anyway, Im rooting for Japan. I dig Ichiro.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:10 pm
At this point, I like DE at 7. I think between Henderson, Barnes, and Pears, we will our LT and RT. Just picked up a C. Only other postion that makes sense would be WR. I think Crabtree will be gone. Our 3rd down defense is AWFUL! A blue chip DE to get after the QB on 3rd down, and cause havoc on 1st and 2nd down would be ideal.
A MLB in the 2nd round to add some toughness up the middle. We need a MLB that can shed block and attack the gaps. This is the NFL, and there will always be a lineman assigned to the MLB. Kirk won’t even try to shed a block. He trys to run around it, which cause huge cutback lanes.
3rd round should be the best DT available
4th round, base DE
6th round, SS
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Oh by the way that pitcher for Korea, his name is Bong,..and Im telling you hes getting lit up,..which is a good idea, Im going to do the same with mine.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:11 pm
I think the Chargers are slipping. If it wasn’t for the late season collapse of the Broncos and the late resurgance of the Chargers, that would have never happened. They made the playoffs because they won the division and that is it. They have faded every year since Norv got there and I would expect to see the trend continue. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying we should underestimate them or anybody else for that matter but I am saying that the team is slipping and hopefully we will be rising and catch them off guard.
The fact is…the Raiders have to be ready for the challenge regardless of the falling Chargers because who’s going to realistically take the division at this point? The Broncos aren’t looking too promising with all of their inner squabbles. The Chiefs should be much improved and could make a true run but that all depends on how Cassell and Todd Haley work together and if the fit is right. Its not like Cassell is working in familiar territory. Those 2 have to learn about each other. Pendergast is the Chiefs Defensive Coordinator and thats nothing they should be proud of.
The Raiders have a chance to break through and they need to send a message to the Chargers in week 1.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:11 pm
SIXTH-ROUND PICK AND A FOURTH-ROUND SWAP FOR SATELE
Posted by Mike Florio on March 23, 2009, 5:05 p.m.
And the Miami Dolphins continue to squander second-round draft picks.
Over the past few years, they have traded second-round selections for players like A.J. Feely and Daunte Culpepper.
The Fins exercised a second-round selection in 2007, taking center Samson Satele. Less than two years later, he has been shipped out of town, reportedly for a sixth-round draft pick.
According to David White of the San Francisco Chronicle, the Raiders and Dolphins also swapped fourth-round picks, moving Miami up 18 spots, from No. 122 overall to No. 104.
Still, most teams aspire to get something more than that from a second-round draft pick, especially after getting only two years of service out of him.
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Here it is Volder.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Correction
6th round starting C Satele!
7th round SS
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Hey wtf is Twitter?..Im old school,..is it some form of texting?
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Anyone who thinks the Raiders are gonna go into the 2009 season and start by beating the Chargers on Monday night in front of the whole country needs to put the crack pipe down. EVERY year its the same B.S. by dillusional Raider fans:
“This is the year man! We are gonna dominate the west bro! Hell yeah, Raiderrrrrs!!”
Its an old, tired, sad song, sung by idiots who drink Al Davis’s special home brewed Raider Kool Aid.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Norco,
Wake killed my bracket. Need Pitt to win it all to have any chance in my few office pools. Recreational use only of course.
Root on one of Vegas’ new adopted son, Mr. Giambi.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:14 pm
How many 10 loss seasons will it take before people start to wake up? Seriously.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:16 pm
Voldemort Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Milo
You’re right, it will be different this time. This time LT and Gates will be HEALTHY. I don’t want to sound pesamistic or negative, but you just sound ignorant and stupid when you underestamate the Chargers.
Voldy, I don’t want to sound pessimistic or negative but you just ignorant and stupid when you can’t spell underestimate and pessimistic.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:16 pm
Vegas, I think Samson is the starting center.
He’s started all 32 games of his pro career.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:16 pm
I Own MR
That’ just how I feel. I would be stoked if it happened, but I’ll believe it when I see it.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:17 pm
JHill (Time for Defense!) Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Correction
6th round starting C Satele!
7th round SS
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Yesssss
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:17 pm
And you sound REAL smart Milo
“but you just igonrant and stupid”
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:18 pm
I don’t understand a lot of these teams thinking. Willing to pay an untested rookie like Stafford millions instead of just trading that pick for Cutler.
Whoever drafts Beanie Wells in the first round instead of trading for Michael Bush.
Taking Crabtree instead of trading for Boldin.
You have to pay the money anyway, why not to a proven guy. Satele over Unger, Wood, or Caldwell any day of the week. Especially for a 6th round pick instead of a 2nd. He was the #2 C in the draft when he came out, and he has 2 years experience in the league. Outstanding job!
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Maybe Satele needs to bring his personal training staff with him like McFadden, otherwise he’ll probably get hurt.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Sounds like Tyvon Branch is gonna get the starting nod or a serious look at strong safety, at least from the little Cable said in his interview the other day. I’m all for it if he can stay healthy, ABH (anything but Huff)
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Sorry Milo the spelling police
I am typing about 150 wpm here, and don’t usually hit spell check when blogging about the raiders.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:21 pm
JHill,
You just put Bush in the same class as Boldin and Cutler. Riddle me this…..WTF HAS BUSH EVER DONE FOR YOU TO PUT HIM IN THE CLASS OF BOLDIN AND CUTLER?
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:22 pm
I like what AL and Cable have done thus far.
The Satele deal took 2 weeks to put together.
That shows some restraint from my point of view.
And they still got what they were after.
The C taken ahead of Satele was the kid from USC.
He was taken at #59, Satele #60 overall.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:23 pm
We need to be able to attack the QB on every play. Kalimba Edwards and Jay Richardson were not the answer. We need to add a playmaker to the Dline. Orakpo or Everett Brown at 7. Unless of course Crabtree or Curry fall to us.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Voldy, That’s fine but when you are calling someone IGNORANT, you might want to check your spelling.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:25 pm
JHill – Good reasoning. Were you impressed at all with Stafford’s 38 Wonderlic score? Just wondering. I would trade for Cutler over drafting Stafford but they’d have to do with their 2nd round wouldn’t they? I mean, it would make more sense to trade for Cutler #1 overall than to draft Stafford #1 overall but it seems like a difficult decision to make in a strange way.
I could definately trade for Boldin with our #1 draft pick instead of drafting Crabtree. They’re both similiar players. I guess its more intriguing to get the unknown with alot of potential sometimes. With Boldin, you know you’re getting some attitude but I think hes earned his pay and the Cardinals are screwing him out of it after all hes done for them and hes a very productive 2nd round pick for them. Hes given them so much as a receiver and even from his rookie season.
Getting Satele gave us more depth with Chris Morris probably moving to Guard. Not a bad move either in my mind and if we release Wade, maybe we get more cap relief and we still keep Morris at center?
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Milo,
STFU.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:26 pm
That’s where my question lies with our off season thus far. What are we going to do to improve the D? I find it hard to believe the Raiders will go defense if Crabtree and Maclin are sitting there at 7. We’ll see what happens
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:27 pm
JHill – You like Curry…Whats your thought on Maualuga?
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:27 pm
So Voldy, do we have a bet?
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:28 pm
It’s beginning to look as though the Raiders are positioning themselves to go heavy D in this draft.
If they pull Braylon Edwards out of their ass before the draft, that could leave little doubt.
Pressuming they package a player and a high pick next season.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:29 pm
MR, I got tired of you a long time ago.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Is there some rumor out there about Braylon to the Raiders?
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:30 pm
We’re going to have Higgins, Miller and Branch to return Punts/Kicks. Thats alot of depth and talent to accomplish that. Maclin couldn’t possibly be the pick.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:30 pm
A bet about what? name the terms.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:31 pm
I Own MR – Not yet. Braylon is on the trading block according to the Browns as confirmed today.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Milo the doucho,
Who cares what you think?
How much money have you lost betting on the Raiders over the years? If the Chargers are on the down slide where are the Raiders headed? Idiot. Drink some more home brew, jackass
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:32 pm
I Own MR Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Is there some rumor out there about Braylon to the Raiders?
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PFT has reported that he’s been shopped.
Giants expressed interest, but the asking price was a 2nd a 5th and Steve Smith.
Narco said earlier today that Edwards to Oakland could happen.
The 1st source is golden.
Narco, we’ll have to wait and see.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:32 pm
You guys read this yet?
Cowboys will be beating the Raiders in the afternoon game.
I know what you’re thinking. Scheduling the Raiders for a national game might seem like a bad idea now, but I think it’s a great call by the NFL. A look at Raiders fans always helps me to remember the homeless and mentally ill, and on Thanksgiving, it’s important to remember those who are less fortunate.
Written by MJD….shutdown corner
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:32 pm
I seriously don’t want a DE who is a Tweener. I’m sick of those. The DT’s need more help stopping the run if they are going to be successful and the Linebackers can’t keep having offensive lineman in their faces. Thats why I think Orakpo and Brown are the wrong fits for us.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
No to Braylon Edwards, he can’t catch
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Braylon dropped more passes than TO last year.I don’t know what to make of that guy. In ‘07 he was a beast.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Maybe Edwards has trouble catching all those ducks that come towards him from all those great QB’s? Haha.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:36 pm
#24 you can’t blame the QBs for drops, that’s on the WR
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:36 pm
“Edwards to Oakland COULD happen”
Couldnt you say that about EVERY team? LOL.
Norco is a nob job.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:36 pm
dikembesaysno Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
No to Braylon Edwards, he can’t catch
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Had a great 2007. Not so great 2008. He did drop a lot of balls last year.
I’m undecided about it.
I guess it depends on what you’d have to pay to get Him.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Voldy – A gentleman’s bet for honor.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:38 pm
MR, aren’t you supposed to be “out of town”?
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Too much Len, we can afford to give away more than we get in return. I say get a bargain vet, or get a WR in the draft.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:38 pm
I Own MR Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:36 pm
“Edwards to Oakland COULD happen”
Couldnt you say that about EVERY team? LOL.
Norco is a nob job.
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I could say that.
But I didn’t
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Edwards lead the league in drops last year, but was a pro bowler in 07, or was a reserve, i can’t remember, but it is hard to tell which Braylon you are getting…
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:38 pm
The thing is…I really like Javon Walker. He can be a great receiver. Thats still a possibility. Hes our Braylon Edwards or Anquan Boldin if he puts it together. He has before, he may do it again. I’m hoping.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:39 pm
MR ran from me, just like you should son. Thats why I own him.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:40 pm
—”The trade was first reported by The Miami Herald and confirmed Monday morning by representatives for both players. Miami will receive a sixth-round pick from Oakland, a source close to the situation told ESPN.com’s Bill Williamson. The San Francisco Chronicle reported on Monday that the teams will also swap fourth-round picks, with the Raiders dropping from the 104th overall pick to the 122nd”—
Yup its official! nice move Al & Cable, Kudos are deserved!
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Didn’t we trade for DeAngelo Hall during the draft? For all we know, Davis will wait to see if Crabtree is available at #7 and if he isn’t, maybe he swings a deal with the Cardinals or the Browns for Boldin or Edwards if he has his mind set on a receiver.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:41 pm
dikembesaysno Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Too much Len, we can afford to give away more than we get in return. I say get a bargain vet, or get a WR in the draft.
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It depends on how the team would view Edwards.
What value they see in Him.
I agree with not over reaching. Be patient.
Find the bargins that can contribute.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:41 pm
24,
Are you serious?? Oh my god. Walker is such a bum dude. When is the last time he even had a decent year. How could you even say he can be great, even jokingly. He was NEVER great.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Milo, I don’t want to bet against he Raiders in the chargers game dude, I will be rooting like hell for them, I just don’t think it’s like likely that they will win. I live in Reno bro, do yo know how much money I could have made over the last 6 years if I was betting against the Raiders? As a rule, it’s just not something that I do. I bet with my head, not my heart. And I always stay away from raider games.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:43 pm
MR is a joke.
Who would want to “own” him?
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:45 pm
#24..
I hope not, first because i dont like Crabtree, second, because, though I like Braylon, we have Schilens, they are both fast and bot a bit unreliable, and consider the st of Braylon, GAWD I hope they dont do it!
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:46 pm
JHill – You like Curry…Whats your thought on Maualuga?
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Got into a mini debate with some folks this morning about Rey Rey. Mauluaga at 7 is my pick if I’m GM, but I have given up all hope that will happen.
And to think he would have been a top 5 pick had he come out last year. I don’t get this thing about him not being able to cover when he played in the PAC 10 for 4 years. I just disagree with that assessment.
And from a marketing standpoint, tell me he wouldn’t instantly be the #1 selling jersey.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:46 pm
I Own MR – http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=3548
Look…Hes obviously a hit or miss guy. He’ll have a great season and fall off the map the next season after. He has put together 2 solid seasons with 2 different QB’s in Favre with GB and Cutler with Denver.
He has the potential to be a legitimate #1. His problems are not his skills but his mind. Once he hurt his knee, he hasn’t been the same since but he had his recovery year last year and this could be the year he breaks out.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:49 pm
JHill,
You just put Bush in the same class as Boldin and Cutler. Riddle me this…..WTF HAS BUSH EVER DONE FOR YOU TO PUT HIM IN THE CLASS OF BOLDIN AND CUTLER?
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LOL, nothing of course. Of course that’s just me wishing on a star that someone will give us a 2nd rd pick for him. It makes no sense to keep him on the bench if we can sucker someone into a pick.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:49 pm
How many guys his age recover from 2 consecutive knee surgeries?
Solid seasons do not equal “great”.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Voldy, If I offered to bet money you would have been all over it.
So you got the “affliction”, huh?
Say no more. I can see why you are always expecting the other shoe to drop, with a gambler, it always does.
Have you ever seen “Owning Mahoney”?
You got to check it out.
The greatest gambling movie ever.
Okay guys, I got to go run and BURN 666’s house down.
Go Raiders!
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:50 pm
In light of recent events, I believe we will be taking A Smith, or a better OT if available with the #7, and DHB with the 2nd round. It sounds like Cable wants more competition at OT, and I think they think we just solved our C problem. You all have to know that Al has had a hard on for DHB since he got the fastest combine 40 anyway…I believe these will be our first 2 picks, not exactly who I think we SHOULD pick.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:50 pm
JHill – I’ve been saying that if we don’t get Crabtree, get Maualuga. He reminds me of a Ray Lewis or Junior Seau. I would love to see someone with that type of influence running our defense. I think its completely essential to find a guy like that who can punish people and be the leader. Let everyone around him have the speed and just let him be the the Deisel. Would you be open to moving Morrison to the Strong position? I think the team would be better off moving Morrison back to Weakside and moving Howard to Strongside because Howard is better in coverage and I believe he played Strong in college. What do you think?
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Honestly, I think Davis is content with Higgins and Schilens. They’re young and they both have shown promise. We need a guy that can complement those too. Go after a guy who can catch, not a guy who you’re not sure which player is going to show up. After last year’s off season, this type of reasoning would only make sense.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:52 pm
We’re going to have Higgins, Miller and Branch to return Punts/Kicks. Thats alot of depth and talent to accomplish that. Maclin couldn’t possibly be the pick.
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Because Maclin was a do it all and returned kicks in college doesn’t mean he will do that in the NFL. Just like DMac. We wouldn’t want our #1 WR returning punts anyway.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:52 pm
JHill,
Damn man, at least someone is man enough to tell the truth instead of pretending Bush is the second coming of Jim Brown. Keep wishing on those stars bro, hopefully one or seven of them come true, and SOON!
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:56 pm
I just think Maclin is JLH. It would be cool to have 2 speedsters on each side but that hardly works. You need many qualities in your WR depth. Crabtree gives you another element.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Bottom line ladies.
There is no number 1 WR on this team. Its a crying shame to draft a QB number 1 overall and not give him a go to guy at WR.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:57 pm
They said Maclin looked explosive coming out of his breaks and caught the ball very natually. Also ran the whole pattern tree. Whis we could fall back a few spots and still get this guy if we are going with a wr.
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:59 pm
24,
First of all, why do you consider Brown and Orakpo tweeners?
2nd, Anything involving Rey Rey at MLB, I’m all for.
I’d be stoked with Rey in the first, a DE in the 2nd, and a DT in the 3rd. 3 new members to that front 7 led by Rey Rey? Xmas in April I tell you!
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:05 pm
I just think Maclin is JLH.
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He may be, but that extra 15lbs he’s carrying makes him a #1 instead of a #3.
JLH’s best role is #3 slot WR/PR. He should get about 5 looks a game in that roll. Of course 2 of those would be deep balls, and the other 3 slant type patterns that he can take to the house. Put him in space just like a P/R.
You hear me Cable guy?
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Dudes, I am getting pumped up day-by-day. I know I’m crazy biased but I feel almost objective in loving what we’re doing; I feel like we’re setting ourselves up to go all/mostly D in the draft (like somebody mentioned up the chain). I would love to see us go DE @ 7 but all the available guys seem to have a quality of uncertainty about them. The guy who’s intriguing based on his scouting report is DT Peria Jerry (http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/peria-jerry?id=79585 – sounds like just what we need) as well as the freak from San Jose St. I wonder if we could find a way back into the 1st to nab one of them, or even better the SJS guy falls to us in rd. 2. Anyway, some pass rush and a stout DT to add to the rotation would be huge, then JB in the 3rd…I’m prolly dreaming. One caveat, I could see us taking Crabtree and I don’t think I’d be too disappointed as long as we went D from there.
As for the Chargers game, I must be biased b/c I’m inclined to agree w/ the posts saying we could/will beat em. I hope Merriman is not his old self b/c that’ll really help. Anyway, kool-aid or not, I’m freaking loving these moves.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:19 pm
JHill – Its their size I’m concerned about. I’ve always been for drafting bigger guys. It just helps to have size when trying to stop the run. The smaller guys tend to get pushed around a little more unless they are elite. I would like to see us stop the run with a defensive line that had 280lb+ DE’s with 300lb+ DT’s. Obviously, those guys also have to be talented but a guy like Maualuga would also appreciate it as it could free him up to wreak havoc with the offensive line struggling to get to the 2nd level.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:20 pm
1-Raji/ Orakpo
2-SS William Moore, M Johnson, Gilbert,Ayers, or Robiskie.
It depends on prev picks:
3&4- LB/S/DE/DT
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:20 pm
I’m not over optimistic about next season at all. We haven’t won anything yet and until we do, I’m holding back on getting pumped up. I’m looking at this team and wondering how we can improve it but we actually have to turn things around so I’m holding out hope but I’ve been over optimistic for the last 6 years and been disappointed. I’m going into next season with an open mind.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Even Andre Smith wouldn’t be bad. I wonder if Cable’s like “Al, gimme the offensive guys I want in FA and go nuts on D in the draft”. It’d be a good way to play to their strengths.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:23 pm
I don’t know about Brown, but Orakpo can add weight later. He is at 263 now, but there were reports saying he was at 280.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Who are the 280lb DEs that can get to the QB on 3rd down? I’d be happy to have him.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Fair enough. But you have to admit there are some signs that there may be a departure from some former ways of thinking about building the team. And based on the last sighting of this team, there are things to be excited about…IF we can fix the run D. If you remember the TB game, Cadillac was havin his way til he got hurt. I don’t get how inconsistent that aspect of the D was last year. We did have some strong (3 quarter) showing stopping the run but sometimes we were a sieve.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Orakpo had 31 reps on the bench at the combine. Almost the same as Raji, he had 33.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:25 pm
I would rather have this guy at DE. He’ll be gone later in the 1st round.
Tyson Jackson
Height: 6-4 1/8 | Weight: 296 | 40-Time: 4.95
Official Bio
Strengths:
Outstanding size and bulk…Has a big frame with long arms and large hands…Powerful with excellent strength…Tough and physical…Good athleticism…Quick with a burst…Uses his hands well…Can really hold his ground…Terrific bull rusher…Offers a lot of versatility…Has a lot of experience against elite competition… Hard worker … Team leader.
Weaknesses:
Average timed speed…Motor is inconsistent…Questionable instincts and awareness…Needs to do a better job of shedding blocks…Doesn’t change directions well…Has some trouble in space…Not a threat off the edge…Just an average pass rusher and won’t rack up a lot of sacks.
Notes:
Full name is Anthony Tyson Jackson…Was a three-year starter in the SEC…Twice named 2nd Team All-SEC (’06 & ‘07)…Best fit will most likely come as a five-technique in a 3-4 scheme but could also play end or tackle in a 4-3 front as well…Has drawn the inevitable comparisons to Marcus Spears, another former Bayou Bengal who was the 20th overall pick in the 2005 NFL Draft…An impressive physical specimen who is highly adaptable…Figures to be a coveted prospect because he is so unlike any of the other top defensive ends available in this draft.
Career Statistics
Year GP TKL TFL SACK
2004 RS - - -
2005 13 12 1.0 1.0
2006 13 37 13.0 10.0
2007 14 36 7.0 4.0
2008 13 36 10.5 4.5
Totals 53 121 31.5 19.5
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:28 pm
I’d take the LSU guy as well. Seems like a lot of guys who might be able to help the D available later in the 1st round…
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:28 pm
I’m a hardcore Raiders fan. I can always find a way to look at the positives and get excited about things the Raiders do. Even last year…there were questionable signings but I still had the feeling that it could work. I did the same thing the year before. I’m just saying that I’m holding my breath this year. Yes, It does have its differences and I have liked what I have seen but theres alot more work to do.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:29 pm
24,
So you must like Gilbert in the 2nd. 6′5 290. I never heard of this kid till today. I’ve been watching clips all day on this kid. He is a beast that can do both, rush the passer, and stuff the run.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Agree completely. That’s why I made the kool-aid reference. I’ve been burned before…and badly. I remember calling all my buddies when Randy Moss was obtained…but I’m tellin ya (and I’m laughing at myself for writing this) this year feels different.
Raider O – that’s the freak I was referring to. Jarron Gilbert.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Raider O Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:29 pm
24,
So you must like Gilbert in the 2nd. 6′5 290. I never heard of this kid till today. I’ve been watching clips all day on this kid. He is a beast that can do both, rush the passer, and stuff the run.
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Raider O,for what it’s worth, He has NFL pedigree.
His Dad was an OL for the Saints.
Really athletic Kid.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Ty is more a 3-4 DE or 4-3 DT. Gilbert who is faster and maybe stronger, can be had in the 2nd. We can draft Raji, or the best player Available Other than QB, RB, DB, or TE. We can have Gilbert in the 2nd.
Glbert: 290
Raji: 335
TK: 310
Burgess/ Scott: 260
Great size and speed. Will that ever happen?
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:36 pm
If I couldn’t get ahold of someone decent in the draft I would sign this guy to a 1 year deal and see where it takes us.
DE Rank 6 Vonnie Holliday UFA 11 6-5/290 North Carolina Miami Dolphins
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Jarron Gilbert
Height: 6-5 1/4 | Weight: 288 | 40-Time: 4.87
Official Bio
Strengths:
Good size with a large frame and long arms…Very athletic…Extremely quick…Terrific natural strength and power…Big, strong hands…Nice balance and agility…Is able to penetrate and make plays in the backfield…Decent range and pursues well…Smart with good instincts and awareness…Offers positional and schematic versatility…Reliable tackler…Decent production…Is still improving and has a lot of upside.
Weaknesses:
Inconsistent…Bit of a classic ‘tweener…Needs to be more physical and aggressive…Doesn’t use his hands well…Has some trouble shedding blocks…Needs to use better leverage…Not a great technician…Motor runs hot and cold…Immature ?…Did not always face elite competition.
Notes:
Could play defensive tackle in a 4-3 scheme or be a five-technique defensive end in a 3-4 and some have even raised the possibility of moving him to offensive tackle…Father Daren played offensive tackle for the New Orleans Saints from 1985-88…Weighed about 240 pounds when he began college…Redshirted in 2004…Played defensive end his first 2 1/2 years with the Spartans before moving inside to defensive tackle as a junior…Was 2nd Team All-WAC in 2007…Had a breakout senior campaign and saw his draft stock soar…Named 1st Team All-WAC and was the conference’s Co-Defensive Player of the Year in 2008…Became a YouTube sensation with this clip of him jumping out of a swimming pool…Was one of the stars of the East / West Shrine Game…Similar in some ways to guys like Ikaika Alama-Francis and Jason Jones…A very intriguing prospect with all of the physical tools that you look for..Still a little raw but has all the potential in the world.
Career Statistics
Year GP TKL TFL SACK
2004 RS - - -
2005 11 22 5.0 3.0
2006 13 32 7.5 5.0
2007 12 38 7.5 4.0
2008 12 52 22.0 9.5
Totals 48 147 42.0 21.5
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:41 pm
I’m always afraid to draft San Jose St. guys. The talent is so few and far between.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Amani Toomer from De La Salle would certainly be the opposite of the guys we have: consistent, old, slow, and reliable hands. Plus his dad’s a huge Raider fan. Not likely considering the number of WRs we already have returning but if we were to sign a vet WR he’d make some sense in what he brings assuming he’s got something left.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Nader,
Like I said, I never heard of the kid till today ( some of you know your football). He is a freak. I watched a few clips and he is a freak. There is a clip posted above that shows him throwing O linemen around like kids. Then he has a fast burst. FEAK
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Gilbert sounds more like a project player.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:43 pm
People want to see JaMarcus Russell & Darren McFadden
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Yep saw that today too; someone posted the link on an earlier thread, maybe it was you. I’ve been hearing his name a lot the last week or so. Apparently he’s rising and had a great showing in his pro day.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:44 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:45 pm
#24..
I hope not, first because i dont like Crabtree, second, because, though I like Braylon, we have Schilens, they are both fast and bot a bit unreliable, and consider the st of Braylon, GAWD I hope they dont do it!
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Unless of course Crabtree becomes a star, then LMN would be the first one to post “I told you guys this Crabtree kid was going to be a star.”
I mentioned Cutler to the Jets weeks ago, yet according to LMN he came up with the idea first.
You are so full of it.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:44 pm
The problem is…was Gilbert throwing around a real talent or just another guy on a mediocre team? The talent he played against has to have substance, otherwise hes going to come to the NFL and struggle.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:45 pm
#24 Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:41 pm
I’m always afraid to draft San Jose St. guys. The talent is so few and far between.
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True. They’re not a Football Factory.
The program seems to be on the upswing however.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:47 pm
The little imposter, again!
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Well, the clips I saw were from the Shrine game practices. And he was a monster. Granted not against ELITE talent but at least “All-Star” college guys. Not that it means anything but just for kicks + it demonstrates what a freak he is. Here’s a clip of him jumping right out of a pool, lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXDSPbZ_OUw
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:48 pm
I guess the problem with smaller schools is there could be alot of talent but they will be overlooked. Its always possible of course.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:48 pm
When you look at his Bio, you can see that his weaknesses can be all fixable with coaching.
One thing this kid has that Al likes a lot is pedigree.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Howie did ok as a rookie out a Villanova.
So it’s possible that Gilbert has an impact year 1.
Hell Trev Scott did alright last year.
If Gilbert has the goods, he’ll produce.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Next LMN will say that he was the first to mention Jay Richards moving to MLB.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Well…like I said…I’d rather have big and stout defensive lineman so if the guy can play and the Raiders feel he can, then bring him. Besides, the Raiders might have alot of information on him since hes a local guy right? We just need more beef.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Speaking of Jay Richardson. I like the guy and thought he should have been starting over Kalimba Edwards. I thought he was progressing nicely and then he got benched. I don’t understand.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Say what you will about the competition and it may be warranted but the plays he makes are not even close to being stopped: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK_SxTr4jZs&feature=related
and the first series is against Boise St. I think which has been a pretty solid offensive team. Not sure if that means the OL are studs but the point is DAMN the dude is quick off the line, strong, and fast in pursuit. These guys can’t seem to stop him.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Next LMN will say that he was the first to mention Jay Richards moving to MLB.”
Not to worry Kell, we all know the MORON that first came up with that idea. LOL
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:53 pm
The Clip was from the senior bowl I think, so real Talent 24.
Also watch clip from post 115.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:54 pm
I think one of the reasons AL drafted Nnamdi earlier than the concensus of opinion was because he had been able to scout him up close for several years.
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:56 pm
#428,
LMAO
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:00 pm
I think McQuistin should be moved to ML.
He’d be a load at the second level.
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:00 pm
A lot of fans in here are for Raji. A lot for Crabtree. Many are for Maclin, Oher and Andre Smith among others. But I think if the commish (of the NFL, not Michael Chiklis) gets the card from the Raiders and says: “With the 7th pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select … Rey Maualuga, linebacker, USC,” every Raiders fan would be pumped.
I’m leaning toward one of the two WRs in the 1st round, but I would be scared to pass on Maualuga if I’m the one actually pulling the trigger on that pick.
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Gilbert does look like a real impressive prospect. The Raiders would have to take him in the 2nd round and he could even be gone before that pick though.
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:04 pm
If The Raiders want Rey, I sure would like to see them trade down and get an extra pick.
I wanted Mack in a trade down. Now that we have Satele, a trade down and Rey would be cool.
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Gilbert does look like a real impressive prospect. The Raiders would have to take him in the 2nd round and he could even be gone before that pick though.
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He’s movin up. I saw one mock that had Him going to the Steelers at #32.
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:04 pm
This is a little off topic, but does anyone else think Howie comes off as kind of a dik in those new Chevy commercials?
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Howies cool. That’s just His great acting ability coming through. lol
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Howie is an Old School Oakland Raider. Of course hes a d!k. He was on posters that said…Real Men Wear Black. The man.
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Haven’t seen them. Speeking if Howie, Gilbert is similar to Howie, they can both play all 4 position on the D line in a 4-3 scheme. About the same size too.
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:21 pm
1- Raji, or the best player on the board.
2- Gilbert
3- Chung
4- JB
That will help the Run D with Marshal as DC, and will give JR and the Offense more Time on the field. We were 31st against the Run, but 16th is Sacks, and 10th in pass D. Since Teams didn’t pass so mush on us due to their success in running the ball, we ranked 10th in passing, And still able to get a lot of sacks. That means we have players to rush the passer. We need players to help with the run, and another S who can get INTs.
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Time for a seat upgrade, should be plenty of seats with this crappy economy. Whats up with having to buy your last seasons seats before they tell you what seats are to be had?
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:27 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Hey wtf is Twitter?..Im old school,..
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It’s the sound MaddenRAider makes when he sticks his fingers up his own azz.
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Telling stat there Raider O. I think tackling on 3rd down really killed us last year too. Kirk whiffed badly at key times. Killed us in the Buffalo game and at least one other game I can’t recall. I’m wondering if a 3rd rd LB (Brinkley) might help there. Too many holes to expect one off-season to completely plug but if they push the right buttons, who knows?
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Andre Smith, Andre Smith, Andre Smith…the only player left at 7 that really makes sense.
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:34 pm
For all you defensive minded freaks, signing Satele has to be the greatest thing for you. That frees up the second round pick for you guys. I can see Sean Smith in Silver and Black right now.
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:34 pm
# Chris in NY Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:00 pm
A lot of fans in here are for Raji. A lot for Crabtree. Many are for Maclin, Oher and Andre Smith among others. But I think if the commish (of the NFL, not Michael Chiklis) gets the card from the Raiders and says: “With the 7th pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select … Rey Maualuga, linebacker, USC,” every Raiders fan would be pumped.
I’m leaning toward one of the two WRs in the 1st round, but I would be scared to pass on Maualuga if I’m the one actually pulling the trigger on that pick.
^^^^^
Agreed….I’m just not that high on Maclin since this team already has a player with the same skill set.
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:35 pm
# Mad Road Dog Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Andre Smith, Andre Smith, Andre Smith…the only player left at 7 that really makes sense.
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Smith should go one overall. Andre Smith falling to number 7 would be the greatest thing of all time.
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:41 pm
ust Win Baby Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:35 pm
I see most of you dorks still have no lives and would rather finger-diddle each other here 24 hours a day than be active in your families lives. You should all look in the mirror and scrutinize your own existence before racing to be the first pinhead to post on the next blog. Just kidding – you are all glorious works of perfection.
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What’s it to You?
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:47 pm
My Final Mock Draft. This is based on what I want to happen, and not on what I think will happen.
1- Raji, or the best player available
2- jarron Gilbert
3- David Bruton S from ND
4- Pete’s boy and a favorite here: JB.
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:54 pm
All these players have size and speed, except Raji.
Gilbert: 6′5 288 and runs 4.87
Bruton: 6′2 219 and runs 4.46
JB: 6′1 252 and runs 4.72
Al loves size and speed, so there you have it. Other than Raji, this is a very possible draft.
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Just win baby – WTF? lol. If you’re serious btw, good luck w/ all the issues you obviously have.
Raider O – first Mock I’m on board with! Bruton’s got speed for a S that size. Not that we ever put too much stock in that…
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:57 pm
One gripe: I would rather get A. Smith than Raji though if he’s available. You just gotta get the cliche “Best Player Available” at 7 if your guy isn’t there. I’m not sold on Raji. I’d say grab a DE or A.Smith if he’s there.
March 23rd, 2009 at 10:04 pm
AAAAAHHHHHHHHH
March 23rd, 2009 at 10:06 pm
If we Take a DE in the 7th, then I would like Robiskie in the 2nd. If don’t take Raji or DE, then the next 3RDs will be the same as my Mock draft. I wish my mock draft meant something.
March 23rd, 2009 at 10:12 pm
lol, me 2
March 23rd, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Did anybody else see the draft video of Satele in Hawaii? That was some funny Hawaiin style chits. Why did it sound like everybody was stoned?…
March 23rd, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Can’t wait for the Draft.
That’s the best part of Season for me. I like young talent that have potential. The problem is we lacked coaching to develop this talent. I don’t think they were all busts. F Washington is going to start for the Ravens this year!!!
March 23rd, 2009 at 10:28 pm
We could have kept Washington, and used the 2nd last year on WR or D line. Instead we had a corner for 8 games who gave up a lot of plays, and got paid 1mil per game. Trading Moss for a 4th!!!!
March 23rd, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Fabian got worked a lot. Seemed to never be able to make the play on the ball when he did have coverage. A lot plays made by WRs above his head. Maybe it was coaching but I wasn’t too sad to see him go. It sucks to get a 4th for a guy picked in the 1st…but glad to be kinda on the other side of that w/ the Miami trade today.
I just hope to start draft talk later next year, meaning we’ll be playing football into Feb. Moss…debacle. I wonder if we coulda did more to convince him to stick around or if Kiffin just wanted him out.
March 23rd, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Bruton had 6 INTs and around 200 tackles in 2 years. At 6′2 219, he ran a 4.46 40.
March 23rd, 2009 at 10:46 pm
We have young Talent like JR, DMC, Bush, Miller, Chaz, and JLH. We beef to add a few Vets to that group, and draft young talent for the Defense.
March 23rd, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Agreed that playmakers are there, and I think the OLine is still a work in progress. Signing off. Peace.
March 23rd, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Beef,lol, sorry. I was thinking about food. Need.
March 23rd, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Time to go have a late dinner.
Good night Nation.
March 23rd, 2009 at 10:57 pm
The 2009 Draft is off to a very good start for us.
Basically, Samson Satele became our 6th round pick and that’s an absolute steal.
Don’t forger Satele was the starting Center for an 11 win playoff team last year.
We get a versatile 24 year old player, who has started over 30 games and will cost an average of 500,000 a year over the next 2 seasons, talk about a bargain.
I mean, how many 6th round picks manage to even make a an NFL roster?….let alone start every game for 2 years, make the all-rookie team on their first year and the playoffs in the 2nd?.
March 23rd, 2009 at 11:04 pm
for any of you who bemoan a loss to SD on opening night I say, what do you know? there might not even be a California by that time.
for any of you who keep b$tching about the Raiders having no #1 receiver, his name is Zach Miller.
for any of you who believe that the defense will yield in the same ways under John Marshall as Robbo, whatever you’ve been smoking for the past five years, you might want to try another brand.
for any of you who dream of having an allstar at every position on the Raiders, well you better join LMN in watching Euro futbol ’cause it ain’t happening here.
for any of you who want a BJ or a ReyRey or an Orakpo at #7, I suggest you have a convers with Marshall about what he sees.
March 23rd, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Marley Esq.,
good evening,
all excellent points in the above post about Samson.
March 23rd, 2009 at 11:09 pm
# MaddenRaider Says:
November 23rd, 2006 at 12:17 pm
Simply put, I DON’T keep the faith. I’ll have faith when I see something to have faith in, which is Rob Ryan and our overall defensive play. So, there’s what I’m thankful for. Happy thanksgiving Jerry, and to all Raider fans. Even you, Ro34.
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MaddenRaider has faith in Rob Ryan? I guess that was before Ryan became another Davis shill. LMAO
March 23rd, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Hey M.
Yeah, that was a good trade…
Take care, see you around.
March 23rd, 2009 at 11:28 pm
# MaddenRaider Says:
December 10th, 2006 at 1:39 am
I’m not one for optimism, but I really do get the feeling we’re going to win tomorrow. I just hope to hell that the powers that be don’t take it as ‘a sign things are going in the right direction..’.
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LOL. BTW, the next day we lost 27-10.
March 23rd, 2009 at 11:30 pm
# JHill (Time for Defense!) Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Who are the 280lb DEs that can get to the QB on 3rd down? I’d be happy to have him.
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Robert Ayers is close…
March 23rd, 2009 at 11:35 pm
# Bob Marley Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 10:57 pm
The 2009 Draft is off to a very good start for us.
Basically, Samson Satele became our 6th round pick and that’s an absolute steal.
Don’t forger Satele was the starting Center for an 11 win playoff team last year.
We get a versatile 24 year old player, who has started over 30 games and will cost an average of 500,000 a year over the next 2 seasons, talk about a bargain.
I mean, how many 6th round picks manage to even make a an NFL roster?….let alone start every game for 2 years, make the all-rookie team on their first year and the playoffs in the 2nd?.
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Yep! Once I heard it was only for a 6th rounder and swapf of 4th Rounders. Grove is overpaid and has injury issues and is practically done. Satele is just getting started and is going to get stronger, improve and is cheaper.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:10 am
The NFL schedule makers have made us look like road kill the last few years. They have scheuled Denver and SD on MNF in hopes that they would embarrass the Raiders and it has paid off for them. I think that is coming to an end, this time they have overplayed their hand. This team has a different mindset and they have some confidence and just as importantly some momentum. Talent wise I think we match up except at QB obviously Rivers is much further ahead of Russell in his development. And that is what the schedule makers are banking on getting Russell off to a bad start.
What they have done in my estimation is underestimated Russell’s confidence. And the underestimated the Raiders belief in themselves and the coaching staff. I’m not predicting a win yet what I am predicting is a much better showing by the Raiders than anyone will expect. We stumbled through last season searching for an identity which we found the last 4 weeks of the season. CONFIDENCE is everything at this level because talent is virtually equal so while SD has the confidence that they have beaten the Raiders umpteen times in a row, this is a very different Raider team.
We finally have an established QB and HC and a plan of action that the team has seen WORK. What we need pening night is a great showing even if we don’t win. But if we do win all of a sudden we have an upper hand on the division that will provide supreme confidence in Cable’s system which transforms the Raiders from division doormats to division leaders that could put us in position to have a very productive season with one HUGE victory. Over the the division Bully for the last 3 years.
The schedule makers may have outsmarted themselves…. all we really have to do is play well.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:14 am
trade #7+Sands and/or Warren to CLE for Braylon Edwards and Shaun Rogers.
(mite work for them with Cutler dangling out there folks…)
follow it up with
2nd Round: Jarron Gilbert/Ayers/Johnson/Barwin DE
3rd Round: A.Caldwell, C/Cadogan T/G
4th Round: LB, S, DT, WR…
7th Round: Michael Ray Garvin, CB/KR (4.2-40, yall know the deal. haha)
and BOOM goes the dynamite
nightnightNation…
March 24th, 2009 at 12:14 am
However a win would be HUGE…HUGE……. it could literally transform this team.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:49 am
Oh Heellllllll nooooo
March 24th, 2009 at 1:25 am
You guys who were talking jerseys, modern ones, current day players, you picked a few good ones, but I cannot believe you left off perhaps the best of all of our players: Shane Lechler, #9. Perhaps his continued annual record for net average comes mostly from our below average offense of these past six years, but Nnamdi would have to have something like 21 interceptions to put up the numbers Shane has on a yearly basis. Nnamdi doesn’t even get 21 passes thrown to him in a season. Without Lechler teams would never have those long, time-consuming drives against us. They’d be in field goal range nearly every time they got the ball. He’s even been the All-Pro punter (I think twice) and not made the Pro-Bowl. Well… I’m spending my money on tickets, not jerseys just yet. I’ll get back to you when I do.
Raider on,
Guamanian Raider
March 24th, 2009 at 1:55 am
Uh oh, BHP’s back. So, what was the big announcement that would blow us off of our feet, BHP? Oh, that’s right, we wrangled up Cable from all of the other teams trying to get him! We’re on the move…
March 24th, 2009 at 2:05 am
SD 34, Raiders 10, BTW. Someone in Tennessee will be laughing his ass off.
March 24th, 2009 at 4:40 am
# KoolKell Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:44 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:45 pm
#24..
I hope not, first because i dont like Crabtree, second, because, though I like Braylon, we have Schilens, they are both fast and bot a bit unreliable, and consider the st of Braylon, GAWD I hope they dont do it!
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Unless of course Crabtree becomes a star, then LMN would be the first one to post “I told you guys this Crabtree kid was going to be a star.”
I mentioned Cutler to the Jets weeks ago, yet according to LMN he came up with the idea first.
You are so full of it.
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I would never do such thing, but I would be quick to say i was wrong, I dont like Crabtree, because foot injuries are very serious, and i dont want to buy and injured horse…
regarding Jets, I never said I said it first, I said I said it a few weeks ago, If you said it before, then fine, I never want to piss on your parade, if its so important for ya, to me its weak that you act like that, but fine, i really dont care who was first….
whats important to me is that Cutler leaves the AFC West, sadly as of now it looks like McDaniels wants to keep cutler…
I dont know who Jay Richards is, but Jay Richardson, I’ve said that if we switched to a 3-4 I could see him as and OLB, and thats something i said when RoRy was D-Boss, thats all i’ve said, I would want him to be MLB, never! only a fool wants that…
March 24th, 2009 at 5:03 am
I used to have one of those “Real Men Wear Black” t-shirts. An African-American friend of mine took one look at it and said…
“That ain’t right, bro. Real men ARE black.”
Still makes me laugh when I think about it.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:28 am
Edward Teach
LOL, I have one of those too, it was just in spanish =)
March 24th, 2009 at 5:30 am
gOOD mORNING nation!!!
March 24th, 2009 at 5:38 am
Mornings all
March 24th, 2009 at 5:41 am
the nfl still has it out 4 Big Al;They know we are very young and opening on MNF against any team was very hard 4 us last year.But this time the powers that be bit off more than they can chew,imo.dis-chargers are in decline and we are going up.We wont be embarrassed this time as we have matured 1 year,there will be no sabotage this year and we will play 2 Cable’s attitude
March 24th, 2009 at 5:42 am
Good Morning Nation!!!!
Morning crew…how ya fleeas doing?
Monday night opener again, huh? I am kinda upset about the Thanksgiving day game because a bunch of us were going to go to Dallas for the game, but…oh well. It is what it is…
Hopefully we get our lines beefed up so we won’t have another embarrassment on Monday night. Its time we take back what was once ours!!!
Go Raiders!!!
March 24th, 2009 at 5:48 am
I watched that game against the Lions Thanksgiving Day and I now realise,that wow,its been 39 YEARS.For marketing purposes alone you want high-draw teams playing on the holidays.I hope we stuff the proverbial turkey down the cowgirls throat.
WE WILL NOT BE BITCH-SLAPPED THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 24th, 2009 at 5:54 am
My brother in-law whole family is huge Dallas fans I can’t wait when Thomas Howard takes a romo pass to the house! This is the year we get back to real Raider football hitting guys in the mouth and winning!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!
March 24th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Gawd I hope we break Lady Tomlinson’s legs on the 1st play 2 end his career on MNF.Then on the 2nd play cry-me-a-rivers gets pancaked and cant get up,done.JLH&Chaz each score twice,Fargas gets 127yds,Bush gets 150yds and Dmac scores 2 TDs and has 171 yds recieving for a 42-0 blow-out
OH-YEAH
March 24th, 2009 at 5:58 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,I SURE HOPE YOU ARE RITE 4EVA,HOPE THIS IS NOT DEJA-VU ALL OVER AGAIN,THE RAIDER’S WILL HAVE TO PROVE TO US AND THE COUNTRY THAT THING’S WILL BE DIFFERENT FROM NOW ON..
March 24th, 2009 at 6:00 am
And the Raiders select Andre Smith with the 7th pick.
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f372b8
March 24th, 2009 at 6:01 am
L M N , HWNDR,EDWARD TEACH, ROCKSTAR, NOMOREFARGAS, ALL HAIL…
March 24th, 2009 at 6:11 am
Good Morning Dirt Lot, LMN, Rockstar, Edward Teach…to all the morning crew!!!
March 24th, 2009 at 6:13 am
The Raiders will not take Andre Tits… err Smith! The last thing we need is a head case like that! Can’t wait for the draft, season opener, and Thanksgiving… even more so now than ever before!
March 24th, 2009 at 6:15 am
Cable has ALL off-season to work on the SD game. Plus, SD has started slow the last 2 seasons.
A win would set the tone for the rest of the year.
Going to Jerry-World on Thanksgiving!!!!! Cheapest Cowboys tickets all year are on Thanksgiving.
I hope they smack Dallas around.
March 24th, 2009 at 6:30 am
THAT IS WHAT MAKE’S ME NERVOUS RAIDERS75,SAN DIEGO IS LOOKING TOWARDS THIS ALSO LIKE IT COULD BE THERE LAST SHOT AT A SUPERBOWL RUN,HATE TO SAY THE FIRST GAME OF THE YEAR IS CRUCIAL,BUT..4 BOTH TEAM’S
March 24th, 2009 at 6:31 am
HwnRdr…
do you remember that Madden question i had?
March 24th, 2009 at 6:32 am
I hear ya Dirt Lot! Funny thing though is that the team can beat them. They just gotta work harder this year. That would be a big monkey off of our back!!! Especially if we beat them in SD!
March 24th, 2009 at 6:34 am
LMN, yeah I remember…about the Danish Band, right? Haven’t had time, but let me call one of my friends that actually plays all the time and ask him. A little later because he is still sleeping…
I haven’t forgotten…
March 24th, 2009 at 6:37 am
good morning AM crew!
repost:
Former Hawaii star Samson Satele is looking forward to starting at center for the Oakland Raiders, his agent, Leo Goeas told the Star-Bulletin this morning.
Goeas confirmed reports that Satele was traded from the Miami Dolphins — where he played every down last season as the team made it to the playoffs — to the Raiders for a sixth-round pick in next month’s draft and a swap of spots in the fourth round.
“Sam’s very excited to get to the west coast, closer to family and friends,” Goeas said. “And with the Raiders, he’s expected to start at center, be a Pro Bowl player and be the leader of the offensive line.”
The Dolphins wanted Satele, headed into his third NFL season, to move to guard, Goeas said.
March 24th, 2009 at 6:38 am
That’s funny!!! Leo Goeas is Satele’s agent? Dam I have been away from Hawaii too long!!!
March 24th, 2009 at 6:39 am
another repost:
Satele’s agent, Leo Goeas, said his client played much of last season with a shoulder injury, and that could explain his problem in handling his position.
“I didn’t know how bad it was until he had an MRI taken. I don’t know how he played with it. There was a chunk of bone that had broken loose and taken part of his labrum with it,” Goeas said.
Satele had surgery about a week after the end of the season, Goeas said, and is going through rehabilitation now and should be ready for the start of the season.
“If he is healthy, he can go up against any nose tackle,” Goeas said.
Goeas said Satele was not surprised by the trade, since the Dolphins had made it clear by acquiring Grove that Satele was not part of their future plans at center.
March 24th, 2009 at 6:39 am
Damn 4eva how many rushing yards total damn. I hope i see dmac pick up merriman on blitz and knocks the steriods out off him!!!
March 24th, 2009 at 6:40 am
WICH WAY THE RAIDER’S GOING IN THE DRAFT NOW ROCKSTAR ?
March 24th, 2009 at 6:41 am
HwnRdr…
no need to, sadly it was MLB 09 it was in
and need for speed or burnout or some of those kinda games…
but still, im a bit proud, that we still can mingle and get through the barrier…
March 24th, 2009 at 6:42 am
Over or under will fargas get 3td or more this year or will he not be able to match his record setting year or 1td.
March 24th, 2009 at 6:42 am
yesterday’s news …
Braylon Edwards is on the trade block
WR David Patten – Browns (Saints)
DT Shaun Cody – Texans (Lions)
Cutler & Owens are still not in camp for the donks & bills. haha
March 24th, 2009 at 6:45 am
# hwnrdr Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 6:38 am
That’s funny!!! Leo Goeas is Satele’s agent? Dam I have been away from Hawaii too long!!!
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please explain why that is funny!?
March 24th, 2009 at 6:46 am
WHICH WAY THE RAIDER’S GOING IN THE DRAFT NOW ROCKSTAR ?
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Dirt Lot: My draft board looks like this …
1. Michael Crabtree
2. Brian Orakpo
3. BJ Raji
in that order.
The NFL Draft is on April 25th (still a month away). A lot could change before then
March 24th, 2009 at 6:51 am
LMN…if its in Need For Speed, I have that game and I can probably let you know in the AM tomorrow or Thursday.
About Leo Goeas…he played early 90’s for the Chargers and was a sportcaster for awhile after his football career ended. Funny to me because I never knew Hawaii had their very own “Jerry McGuire”…Good thing, though, he played O line, so maybe he can help out with his client there…
March 24th, 2009 at 6:58 am
If Curry, Crabtree, and the 3 OTs are gone when we pick, it is going to be really interesting to see who we pick at 7. I’m holding out hope for my darkhorse Rey Mauluaga. Follow it up with Conner Barwin or Jarron Gilbert in the 2nd and we are in business!
March 24th, 2009 at 6:59 am
Hwnrdr, Dirt Lot, 4eva, LMN …
question for you guys (just curious)
What does your draft board look like?
March 24th, 2009 at 7:00 am
Jhill: you would want Rey Mauluaga over Orakpo and Raji ???
March 24th, 2009 at 7:05 am
Over Raji? Without hesitation.
I really like Orakpo!
But I think the combination of Rey Rey at MLB, and Barwin or Gilbert at DE would be just what the doctor ordered.
I think our DTs actually lining up correctly over both Gs instead of one directly over the C like Robo used to do is all the change we need there. Plus Kelly being 100% of course.
March 24th, 2009 at 7:07 am
HwnRdr.
okay, now i get, LOL “show me the Money”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mlb_09_the_show#Soundtrack
March 24th, 2009 at 7:07 am
Okay, we don’t have a fifth and a sixth now, right? So we only have:
1
2
3
4, with a swap position with Miami for Satele
7
Let me think awhile…multitasking with work and this…
March 24th, 2009 at 7:08 am
I was hoping and praying he came out last year when we had the #4 pick. Remember everyone saying last year this time that we would never have a shot a him this year becasue we wouldn’t draft high enough? Well, he’ll be sitting right there for us.
March 24th, 2009 at 7:08 am
RRS…
my mock draft hasnt changed since i made it in january, besides FB Eric Kettani, I understands that he has to wash the deck on some carrier =) LOL
March 24th, 2009 at 7:12 am
we really need a complete DE. That’s why I want Orakpo if Crabs is gone. I can easily see him becoming the next Michael Strahan. To be honest with you I’ve never seen Barwin or Gilbert play. They must be studs though if you think they have more to offer than youngsters like Richardson, Scott or Gunheim.
March 24th, 2009 at 7:15 am
my mock draft hasnt changed since i made it in january
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mine either. what is it? please remind me. I have a terrible memory
I know my wedding anniversary is coming up some time next month. haha
March 24th, 2009 at 7:17 am
Orakpo
Raji
Heyward-Bey/Maualuga/Nicks
For 1rst
March 24th, 2009 at 7:18 am
RRS,
Of course I wanted Mack but didn’t see this good trade 4 Satelle coming,sooo…I also like the direction of getting 2 0r 3 year players on O-line so…If Mack is not the pick I would go all defence and I think we need draft these positions in the order of
1.DT
2.DE
3.MLB
4.DE
6.DT
7.Rmases Barden
Best players at position listed .You could flip a coin on DT or DE being picked 1st b/c thats where I think we are weakest
March 24th, 2009 at 7:18 am
Rnd 1 – Rey Mauluaga
Rnd 2 – Connor Barwin
Rnd 3 – Chris Clemons
Rnd 4 – Terrence Taylor
Rnd 7 – Don’t have a clue …
March 24th, 2009 at 7:21 am
Hwnrdr, we still got our 4th round pick.Only we now pick 22nd or something like that and ‘fins pisk #8 in 4th round.We just swaped ‘em
March 24th, 2009 at 7:31 am
Well, should be an interesting season with Monday night and Turkey bowl…battle of the meddling owners!
Gotta go guys…BRB!
March 24th, 2009 at 7:33 am
Last year we switched left tackles with SF
We sent Sims (who had played every down the previous year)and got Harris.
Now we are switching centers with Miami (for a guy who played every down last year). I hope this is a good move.
I would really like to see a big dominate center hiking the ball this year— someone who can shove a cluster of 4 linemen to one side or another– open some huge holes.
March 24th, 2009 at 7:35 am
RR
I enjoy the conversation so I am going to try this logic out.
Football is a game of time and space.
Offensive skill players all need time and space to be effective. Some need less than others but they all need it.
Tom Cable obviously feels the need to improve the Oline. We could have three new starters next season on that unit.
There are only two units on the team dedicated exclusively to creating or destroying time and space.
The offensive and defensive lines. DB’s/LB’s play a role in the space part of the equation but are largely dependent on the Dline for the time part(”coverage” sacks being relatively rare) unless they are blitzing.
Though I admire the optimism associated with the reality of Tom Cable’s line focus we are a bad football team. We were embarrassed by physical teams and have the worst record in football over the past six years. Our Dline is pathetic. It is comprised of cast offs and day two projects. The statistics bear that out. So does our record.
Why would we not want to focus our energies and maximize the potential for improvement by focusing on our Dline on day one of the draft(Dline given our FA focus on the Oline)?
I assume most would agree day one picks as a rule have a higher success rate than day two picks.
I am perplexed why any one would want to have more of the same in 2009 by going with another skill guy in the first round.
March 24th, 2009 at 7:38 am
they should draft offense first then defense. if we would have scored a touchdown or two more a game we would have made it to the playoffs.
March 24th, 2009 at 7:39 am
Is everybody happy with the WR corps of:
Walker, Higgins, Schilens, Shields and Watkins/Holland ?
because if you guys think we need a WR, why not get the best WR? thats my policy. no more scrubs for Russell to work with
March 24th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Crabtree = Michael Westbrook.
RRS, I’ll pass.
March 24th, 2009 at 7:48 am
ol
wr
ss
de
dt
in that order
March 24th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Wow, and I thought the Raiders had bad luck!
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AP: Tuesday, March 24, 2009
Print ShareThisTOKYO — A 93-year-old Japanese man has become the first person certified as a survivor of both U.S. atomic bombings at the end of World War II, officials said Tuesday.
Tsutomu Yamaguchi had already been a certified “hibakusha,” or radiation survivor, of the Aug. 9, 1945, atomic bombing in Nagasaki, but has now been confirmed as surviving the attack on Hiroshima three days earlier as well, city officials said.
Yamaguchi was in Hiroshima on a business trip on Aug. 6, 1945, when a U.S. B-29 dropped an atomic bomb on the city. He suffered serious burns to his upper body and spent the night in the city. He then returned to his hometown of Nagasaki just in time for the second attack, city officials said.
“As far as we know, he is the first one to be officially recognized as a survivor of atomic bombings in both Hiroshima and Nagasaki,” Nagasaki city official Toshiro Miyamoto said. “It’s such an unfortunate case, but it is possible that there are more people like him.”
Certification qualifies survivors for government compensation — including monthly allowances, free medical checkups and funeral costs — but Yamaguchi’s compensation will not increase, Miyamoto said.
Japan is the only country to have suffered atomic bomb attacks. About 140,000 people were killed in Hiroshima and 70,000 in Nagasaki.
Yamaguchi is one of about 260,000 people who survived the attacks. Bombing survivors have developed various illnesses from radiation exposure, including cancer and liver illnesses.
Details of Yamaguchi’s health problems were not released.
Thousands survivors continue to seek official recognition after the government rejected their eligibility for compensation. The government last year eased the requirements for being certified as a survivor, following criticism the rules were too strict and neglected many who had developed illnesses that doctors have linked to radiation.
March 24th, 2009 at 7:50 am
Is everybody happy with the WR corps of:
Walker, Higgins, Schilens, Shields and Watkins/Holland ?
—————————————————–Nor really. But I think Crabtree will be gone, and those guys you mention are going to get this year to fail. We all know Walker, Schillens, and JLH are going to be on the field. Just like OT and DT, we have guys at WR that are going to play.
March 24th, 2009 at 7:51 am
they have “burners” at wr with higgins shields and chaz. they need to pick a big sure handed possession receiver in the 2nd.
March 24th, 2009 at 7:54 am
WRs are a dime a dozen. Let JLH and the young guys develop before wasting the #7 pick on Crabtree, who is not in the same class as guys like Fitzgerald, Boldin, Andre Johnson or Calvin Johnson.
March 24th, 2009 at 7:54 am
give the receivers more then 3 seconds to get open thats how the patriots almost had a perfect season.
March 24th, 2009 at 7:57 am
It seems 2 me that Cable is not comfortable with rookie O-linemen and he said he likes who we are,so far on the O-line.I,m hoping 2 address that embarrassing 31st ranked D-line
March 24th, 2009 at 8:01 am
Dakota Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 7:54 am
WRs are a dime a dozen. Let JLH and the young guys develop before wasting the #7 pick on Crabtree, who is not in the same class as guys like Fitzgerald, Boldin, Andre Johnson or Calvin Johnson.
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You are correct sir
March 24th, 2009 at 8:03 am
It sounds like many agree with my reasoning regarding WR being a wasted round one pick.
The misconception about the Raiders is that we supposedly are “loaded with talent” but do not win.
The reason is the talent is not on the LINES. Our lines are awful which is why we have been awful for six stinking seasons in a row.
Prolific WR and DB’s are useless without strong lines.
We build the lines now and we start to win.
Day one needs to be devoted to line play.
March 24th, 2009 at 8:03 am
lets hope that 31st ranked run defense you speak of is due to the scheme ryan was running.
March 24th, 2009 at 8:04 am
Charlie,
Excellent post on #527. The Raiders are probably one of the softest teams in the league. SOFT…SOFT to the touch. The Raiders value speed more than anything else yet try to play a physical man on man type of football. You would think that Davis would embrace the Cover 2 given his love of speed, speed, speed.
People focus on skill positions and speed rushing deensive ends because its easier to envision a wide receivers going 75 yards on a bomb (Maclin) or a safety with ridiculous range making INTs in Center field (Huff) or a speed rusher burning the OT and racking up sack after sack after sack. How many bombs are completed in a game?
Its not really all that exciting to see a DT holding up two O-Lineman while his teammates make the actual tackle. A base DE has no value in Oakland because he’s not getting a ton of sacks. Pay no attention to clogging running lanes.
That’s why the Raiders have always relied on 2nd day picks, castoff free agents and undrafted rookies to man their D-Line positions. They simply don’t value the position. The backwards philosophy of building a defense to stop the PASS and to toally ignore the run is why we gnash our teeth as the defense gets run off the field.
March 24th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Walker could have a solid season if he stays healthy. I think he got a pass last year and didn’t get along with Lofton.
I’m not opposed to oakland trading down in this particular draft.
If they could snag Brandon Pettigrew in the 20s of the 1st and a player on the defensive side like Everette Brown it could go along way toward helping…
March 24th, 2009 at 8:10 am
CRANK SMOKER Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 8:03 am
lets hope that 31st ranked run defense you speak of is due to the scheme ryan was running.
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The scheme was Davis’s and will remain the same
http://www.raiders.com/Team/CoachBio.aspx?id=59956
It depends primarily on the OFFENSE to put up points and sustain drives since its a pass rush cover D and that simply hasn’t happened in recent years.
Last year we went 206 plays with out a TD…
If we can get our weapons on line like we started to in December of last year, it could finally start to turn things around…
March 24th, 2009 at 8:11 am
S&B
I think we are thankfully headed in a different direction.
The draft will be the litmus test. Given the FA activity on the Oline, I believe you are correct with a Dline focus day one.
March 24th, 2009 at 8:11 am
Charlie,
The Detroit Lions also tried this “outside in” approach and their team was a total disaster this year. Mike Williams, Charles Rogers, Roy Williams and Calvin Johnson.
They draft Mike Williams ahead of DeMarcus Ware and Shwan Merriman
Take Roy Williams over a Johnathan Vilma or Tommie Harris
Take Charles Rogers when Terrell Suggs or Jordon Gross or Kevin Williams is out there.
And the Lions wonder why the team recently went 0-16
March 24th, 2009 at 8:17 am
Charlie Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 8:11 am
S&B
I think we are thankfully headed in a different direction.
The draft will be the litmus test. Given the FA activity on the Oline, I believe you are correct with a Dline focus day one.
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I could see a DE coming off the board to replace Burgess…
March 24th, 2009 at 8:18 am
So we bring in a DT and base DE to stop the run, but what about 3rd down when we can’t seem to get off the field? Taking up 2 defenders (still don’t see that being Raji) and clogging run gaps doesn’t help us get off the field on the 3rd and 6s or more than we constantly struggle with. We haven’t had a Dline that can put pressure on the QB from multiple positions on 3rd down in years. That’s the difference between the top defense and one’s like ours, they make plays on 3rd down. Ints, sacks, pass defended, qb pressures on 3rd down is where we need to focus.
March 24th, 2009 at 8:18 am
Peace my bretheren.
Enjoy the day!
March 24th, 2009 at 8:19 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 8:10 am
CRANK SMOKER Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 8:03 am
lets hope that 31st ranked run defense you speak of is due to the scheme ryan was running.
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The scheme was Davis’s and will remain the same
http://www.raiders.com/Team/CoachBio.aspx?id=59956
It depends primarily on the OFFENSE to put up points and sustain drives since its a pass rush cover D and that simply hasn’t happened in recent years.
Last year we went 206 plays with out a TD…
If we can get our weapons on line like we started to in December of last year, it could finally start to turn things around…
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When the Raiders got leads last year that forced the opponent to pass I didn’t see this strategy to successfull.
The Bills did nothing but throw the ball in the 2nd half and scored, and scored and scored.
Denver (1st), New Orleans, Atlanta, New England and San Diego (2nd) came out guns a blazin and threw on us from 1st whistle
And Miami was in position to have to drive 80 yards to win and Chad carved up this “Outside-In” defense with ease
March 24th, 2009 at 8:21 am
Crank,I’m sure ryan was part of the problem but…
Sands sucks,period.
Burgess is 2 old
Derrick Gray 2 yrs,Texas Southern???
Grayson Gunhien 2 yrs,Washington???
Wialliam Joseph back-up
Tommy Kelly,still a LOT 2 prove
Jay Richardson 3rd year
Gerrard Warren,send him packin 2
I used all this space 2 show who we got on the D-line Gray,Gunhiem and Richardson time will tell,I hope they win the Battle of Camp.Young studs of the D-line transition easier than O-line,so Draft D-Line
March 24th, 2009 at 8:22 am
JHill (Front 7 Impact Player @ 7!) Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 8:18 am
So we bring in a DT and base DE to stop the run, but what about 3rd down when we can’t seem to get off the field? Taking up 2 defenders (still don’t see that being Raji) and clogging run gaps doesn’t help us get off the field on the 3rd and 6s or more than we constantly struggle with. We haven’t had a Dline that can put pressure on the QB from multiple positions on 3rd down in years. That’s the difference between the top defense and one’s like ours, they make plays on 3rd down. Ints, sacks, pass defended, qb pressures on 3rd down is where we need to focus.
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On 3rd & longs the Raiders aren’t very aggressive. Perhaps John Marshall can make his biggest impact here. The Raiders run a vanilla defense on 3rd down and don’t really give any different looks.
March 24th, 2009 at 8:27 am
test
March 24th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Sorry, I don’t buy it. I can’t stand Al Davis, but I don’t buy into him forcing the defense to play a certain way. I certainly think he has things he wants to see done, but I think D-coordinators have some wiggle room. I think Ryan sucked as a 4-3 DC, but I am actually rooting for the guy to succeed with a 3-4 in Cleveland…even though I trashed him in here.
Anyhow, just look at how Bresnahan used the LBs from 2000-2003 compared to how Ryan used them. Bresnahan utilized the blitz much more often. Coaching matters.
Hopefully Marshall will simply be a better 4-3 DC than Ryan ever could be since he was a 3-4 guy coming out of NE.
It is our only hope.
March 24th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Dakota,
apparently the bear hides and mammoth skins got you through the most recent blizzard unscathed. Good.
did you see the post a couple of days ago from Mad Road Dog where he called you one of the smartest people to come on this site? So be it.
March 24th, 2009 at 8:33 am
M Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Dakota,
apparently the bear hides and mammoth skins got you through the most recent blizzard unscathed. Good.
did you see the post a couple of days ago from Mad Road Dog where he called you one of the smartest people to come on this site? So be it.
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Wow, that was very nice of him…and of you to bring it to my attention.
March 24th, 2009 at 8:41 am
I read some guys talking up P Turner. He might be a good late pick like 4th round or later but the guy didn’t have it in college. Dissapeared went it counted most, dropped important balls all year
March 24th, 2009 at 8:46 am
John Marshall (born October 2, 1945) is an American football coach for the Oakland Raiders. He currently serves as a defensive coordinator for the Oakland Raiders.
Marshall, a coaching veteran of over 40 years, is mostly associated with coaching linebackers. He earned 2 Super Bowl rings during his time with the San Francisco 49ers, where he was an assistant.
Marshall coached linebackers for the Detroit Lions in 2002, where he was on the staff of Steve Mariucci. Marshall had previously served as defensive coordinator under Mariucci with the San Francisco 49ers in 1997 and 1998.
March 24th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Raji would be an upgrade over Sands with the potential to be a star and Warren is a very capable backup DT. We still need a starting LB but will there be a can’t miss LB in round 2?
March 24th, 2009 at 8:55 am
DTs drafted in the top 10 over the past 10 years …
Glenn Dorsey
Sedrick Ellis
Amobi Okoye
Dewayne Robertson
Johnathan Sullivan
Kevin Williams
Ryan Sims
John Henderson
Gerard Warren
Corey Simon
March 24th, 2009 at 9:00 am
what’s up people? I haven’t written in a long, long time.
dakota; i rooted for your northern boys in the ncaa. they put on a good show.
all: Please take into consideration that all teams are trying to get better. Every year people want to say what our record will be and who we should beat prior to the season. I believe Atlanta was one we should have won in august but they were a much better team when we played them.
Hopefully, we’ll have a solid draft and not so much the popular one that we’ve had the last few years. DT,LB,S
We seem to be doing well picking up lineman in the offseason. Maybe we can dump Green now.
ct raider
March 24th, 2009 at 9:06 am
CT Raider,
Yeah those ND State guys played pretty well. The SD State ladies are still in it…errrr, not that I watch women’s college b-ball, but still, nice to see some local teams doing well…even though SDSU is a rival of my alma mater, USD.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Week 1 – Chaz 2 for 29
Week 2 – none
Week 3 – JLH 1 for 84, Javon 2 for 18
Week 4 – JLH 4 for 35, Javon 2 for 34
Week 5 – JLH 1 for 35, Javon 1 for 7, Chaz 1 for 9
Week 6 – Javon 5 for 75, Chaz 2 for 10
Week 7 – JLH 2 for 16, Javon 2 for 28, Chaz 3 for 76
Week 8 – Javon 1 for 7
Week 9 – Javon 2 for 27
Week 10- none
Week 11- none
Week 12- none
Week 13- JLH 2 for 22
Week 14- JLH 3 for 66, Chaz 1 for 4
Week 15- JLH 3 for 56, Chaz 3 for 52
Week 16- JLH 6 for 52, Chaz 3 for 46
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these are the catches & yards from every game last year. WR’s Higgins, Walker & Schilens stats.
Still want to pass on Michael Crabtree?
March 24th, 2009 at 9:13 am
1.DT
2.DE
3.MLB
4.S
Afterall, I thought drafting McFadden was the answer to all our offensive woes…
The has weapons, the D is out of ammmo.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:17 am
Drafting a tackle would do more for our passing game than drafting Crabtree would. Give Russell some time and he will get the ball to the young WRs, Miller and McFadden and Bush coming out of the backfield.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:18 am
RR-
With out hesitation, pass, drvie down the block, circle around, and bypass again…perhaps even wave while passing…and IM Crabtree that I am passing and to have his family look out the window and see me pass.
The kid just doesn’t standout…rather mediocre draft class at WR to be true.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Watch Kelly, Sands, Warren & Joseph stuff Tomlinson and shut down the Chargers running game. Watch Morrison, Howard & Brown cut off the outside and make sure tackles under John Marshall.
You guys think every player on our defensive front seven was terrible for the last 5 years? you can’t be that dumb, right?
coaching matters. watch Marsh teach players about gap discipline and how to tackle. thats why Cable wanted him. he’s an experienced DC. experienced in the 4-3 defense. most importantly, he’s a good teacher. not just a players coach that tries to play it safe by not blitzing or using prevent defense in the 4th quarter.
no matter what you guys say, we’re not 1 player away from a good run defense. It takes 11 guys. that is a coaching problem, not lack of talent on the roster
March 24th, 2009 at 9:23 am
The kid just doesn’t standout…rather mediocre draft class at WR to be true.
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exactly. you’re half right. Crabtree DOES stand out. In fact he’s the only WR that does in this draft class. That’s why if Crabs is gone by #7, we stick with what we got at WR and continue to build the o-line
March 24th, 2009 at 9:23 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Watch Kelly, Sands, Warren & Joseph stuff Tomlinson and shut down the Chargers running game. Watch Morrison, Howard & Brown cut off the outside and make sure tackles under John Marshall.
You guys think every player on our defensive front seven was terrible for the last 5 years? you can’t be that dumb, right?
coaching matters. watch Marsh teach players about gap discipline and how to tackle. thats why Cable wanted him. he’s an experienced DC. experienced in the 4-3 defense. most importantly, he’s a good teacher. not just a players coach that tries to play it safe by not blitzing or using prevent defense in the 4th quarter.
no matter what you guys say, we’re not 1 player away from a good run defense. It takes 11 guys. that is a coaching problem, not lack of talent on the roster
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I AGREE
March 24th, 2009 at 9:24 am
marshall was the linebackers coach under muchi when 49ers won those super bowls.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Preach on Dakota! Testify!
Draft fever gets everyone all nearsighted and religious…they find our “saviour” and argue at length why we will/will not win without said player.
Yawn.
Our D line is old…just give me young blood, fast blood, and a MIB that can bring it like Danny Clark once did…
Gruden rebuilt us in the trenches.
Cable appears to know as much.
I give a damn if the league isn’t scared of JLH and Schillens….but they damn sure will after this year.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Read post #561 again. If Crabs is on the board at #7 and the Raiders pass on him JaMarcus Russell should hold out.
no way should you put the team on this young kid’s shoulders with no talent at the WR position and a bunch of scrubs on the o-line
March 24th, 2009 at 9:28 am
marshall was the linebackers coach under muchi when 49ers won those super bowls.
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He also took the Seahawks to the Super Bowl in 2005 as DC. That was the game that the refs gave away, remember?
March 24th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Good morning Nation.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:35 am
i remember that game rockstar. so compare john marshall’s postseason experience to rob ryan’s… i prefer marshall for now.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:36 am
JHill (Front 7 Impact Player @ 7!) Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 8:55 am
DTs drafted in the top 10 over the past 10 years …
Glenn Dorsey – Jury still out..poor talent around him
Sedrick Ellis – Played well his rookie yr…had knee injury
Amobi Okoye – Played well rookie yr, slumped a little 2nd, expected to be big contributor this yr
Dewayne Robertson – Bust?!? But no talent around him either
Johnathan Sullivan – BUst…Drug problems too.
Kevin Williams – 4x Pro Bowler…Dominant force
Ryan Sims – Busted out
John Henderson – Solid 6 yr. starter for Jags
Gerard Warren – Bust!?!
Corey Simon – Pro-Bowl 1 yr…4 yr starter for Eagles, Eagles also franchised tagged him, but he refused to sign. Arthritis forced him out.
So, 4 out of 9 DTs taken in the top 10 has been a total bust. And unfortunately we traded for one of them. A couple of them are still getting started.
Also, consider the talent around some of these players too. The Raiders do have talent on the defense that can take advantage of a good DT in the middle. Kelly gets better, Morrison gets better and the new DE gets better.
Again, the Raiders have talent on defense. They just have two enormous holes to fill being a DT and a Base DE. I’ll give Tyvon Branch and Michael Huff a shot with the John Marshall.
If the Raiders can fill those holes I think that defense can get much better.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:37 am
putting Russell in the saddle with this WR corps is worse than the Titans surrounding Vince Young with Roydell Williams, Brandon Jones & Justin Gage. Or the Eagles surrounding McNabb with Jason Avant, Hank Baskett & Greg Lewis saying “git r done”
March 24th, 2009 at 9:39 am
be back later … lunch time
March 24th, 2009 at 9:40 am
If it wasn’t the DTs and front 7,then why were we 31st against the Run. It can’t all be scheme!!!! The front 7 needs to be upgraded, except Kirk,TH, and TK.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:41 am
everyone has valid points about drafting their guy first. plenty of holes to fill and not enough draft picks to fill them with.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:44 am
I just hope we can be competitive at 7-9 or 8-8. With Cable and the castoffs o-line we presently have, and our difficult schedule 8-8 would be a miracle.
If we draft a decent T in round 1 and the best avail. NT/DE/LB in rounds 2 and 3, and Cable is more than just a coach who’s job was saved by the RB he refused to play, and Russell plays like he did in the final few games, then maybe 7-9!!!!
Hopefully Cable is done with the N.O., Baltimore, Atl, SD and NE type defeats like we had under him last season.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Wide receivers taken in the top 10 over the last 10 yrs
1 2007 1 2 Calvin Johnson – Superstar
2 2007 1 9 Ted Ginn Jr. – Not a bust but is he a difference maker?
3 2005 1 3 Braylon Edwards – Jury still out still young
4 2005 1 7 Troy Williamson – Bust
5 2005 1 10 Mike Williams – Collosal Bust
6 2004 1 3 Larry Fitzgerald – Superstar
7 2004 1 7 Roy E. Williams – Jury still out
8 2004 1 9 Reggie Williams – Bust
9 2003 1 2 Charles Rogers -Bust
10 2003 1 3 Andre Johnson – Superstar
11 2001 1 8 David Terrell – Bust
12 2001 1 9 Koren Robinson – Bust
13 2000 1 4 Peter Warrick – Bust
14 2000 1 8 Plaxico Burress – Good career
16 1999 1 6 Torry Holt – Pro-Bowler great career
17 1999 1 8 David Boston – Bust
About 50% rate if you give Braylon Edwards and Ted Ginn Jr. credit.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:47 am
My last Mock Draft:
1- DT Raji 6′1 337
2- DE Gilbert. 6′5 288 4.87
3- S David Bruton. 6′2 219 4.46
4- LB JB. 6′1 252 4.72
March 24th, 2009 at 9:49 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 9:37 am
putting Russell in the saddle with this WR corps is worse than the Titans surrounding Vince Young with Roydell Williams, Brandon Jones & Justin Gage. Or the Eagles surrounding McNabb with Jason Avant, Hank Baskett & Greg Lewis saying “git r done”
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Those teams were still able to win games and get playoff runs. Both KFC and VY were able to take there teams to the playoffs with those receivers.
McNabb is a special QB, but they still made a run to the championship game and put points on the board.
Personally, I think Schilens and JLH have more upside than any receiver on those teams. Plus we have Zack Miller at tight end and two running backs that can catch the ball pretty well.
And Russell has more ability than VY or KFC for that matter.
The Raiders will run the ball more than Andy Reid would in 10 yrs.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:49 am
none of you suckas no anything about football!
March 24th, 2009 at 9:50 am
S&B What about tackles taken in the first round the past ten years?
March 24th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Our front 7 can be one of the best in the NFL.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Brailen Edwards plays like he has super glue on his hands, sign him up.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:54 am
I think Gallery was the only BUST OT taken in the 1st the past 10 years. LOL, not funny.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:54 am
almost 10am troll rush hour.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Other teams with average receivers making playoff runs:
Baltimore Ravens
Chicago Bears – Lost it in the last game of season
Minnesota Vikings
Miami Dolphins
New Orleans – What is the highest drafted receiver on that team?
Fix the D-Line and O-Line and get the team to 8-8.
Then in the following year draft a receiver in the mid-to late 1st round that will contribute as much as any one in the top 10
March 24th, 2009 at 10:01 am
1 2008 1 1 Jake Long T – Great player
2 2007 1 3 Joe Thomas T – Great player
3 2007 1 5 Levi Brown T – Good player
4 2006 1 4 D’Brickashaw Ferguson T – Good player
5 2004 1 2 Robert Gallery T – Bust, decent tackle
6 2003 1 8 Jordan Gross T – Good player
7 2002 1 4 Mike D. Williams T – Bust
8 2002 1 7 Bryant McKinnie T – Good player
9 2002 1 10 Levi Jones T – Very average
10 2001 1 2 Leonard Davis T – Bust, decent tackle
11 2000 1 3 Chris Samuels T – Good player
12 1998 1 7 Kyle Turley T – He was ok
Offensive tackles make pretty reliable picks in the top 10.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:02 am
5 2004 1 2 Robert Gallery T – Bust, decent left guard**
March 24th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Another MNF home opener? After the total disasters of recent past? I’m amazed that ESPN is even interested, seeeing as the Raiders haven’t even shown up the last 2 times. Are people really interested in watching a bad team get blown out, or do they believe that this time, it’ll be different? Are people even going to tune in?
I sure hope Cable can show us something different, because a nationally televised suckfest has been the raiders opening day M.O. for a long time now.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:05 am
here in san diego all i hear on the local radio stations about the opener is that it is going to be a sure win for the chargers. it sickens me.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Dakota; you like women’s bball? i love watching my girls! Tonight 7pm (EST)!!! Make some chicken out of Purdue (perdue)lol
If we had DTs to keep lineman from getting down field and a MLB who can shed a locker then safety might not be a priority.
a note about crabtree and maclin… i lived in stl last year watched the big 12. I could have had 2,000 yards receiving in that league! That was pathetic and it showed in the bowls.
ct raider
March 24th, 2009 at 10:11 am
CRANK SMOKER Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 10:05 am
here in san diego all i hear on the local radio stations about the opener is that it is going to be a sure win for the chargers. it sickens me.
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Ignorant people that smoke crank sicken me. You stupid ass white boy junkie
March 24th, 2009 at 10:11 am
This draft will get the Raiders knocking on the door of playoffs this yr.
1. BJ Raji, DT, Boston College – Run stopper, commands double team
2. Jarron Gilber, DE, San Jose State – Run stopper athletic
3. Jasper Brinkley, MLB, South Carolina – Big, fast and hits hard
4. David Bruton, FS, Notre Dame – 6′2 219 4.46 40
7. Johnny Knox, WR, Abilene Christian – 4.3 40 for Al Davis
March 24th, 2009 at 10:14 am
CRANK SMOKER Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 10:02 am
5 2004 1 2 Robert Gallery T – Bust, decent left guard**
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Yeah, sorry about that. Same with Leonard Davis
March 24th, 2009 at 10:16 am
I’ll be at the MNF home opener. This time, I’ll try to temper my expectations. That said, if Cable has this team ready to play and they beat the Chargers, he’ll be a God in RaiderWorld overnight.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:16 am
kell do you need my attention to brighten up your day? its not my fault that your parents didn’t tell you that they loved you or that they didn’t hug you when you were growing up.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:20 am
KrappyKell, did you just take your medication? You know it’s much too early for you to be out of bed, let alone attempting to spell.
Oh man, today is starting off pretty rough for the old goat!
March 24th, 2009 at 10:25 am
RaiderRockstar’s mock draft version 2.0 -
Round 1: WR Michael Crabtree
Round 2: DE Everette Brown, Aaron Maybin, Tyson Jackson, Larry English, Michael Johnson, Robert Ayers, Connor Barwin, Jarron Gilbert
Round 3: OT Troy Kropog, Fenuki Tupou, Xavier Fulton
Round 4: DT Sammie Lee Hill, Vance Walker, Terrance Taylor, Terrance Knighton
Round 7: OLB Anthony Heygood, Kaluka Maiava, Mortty Ivy, Solomon Elimimian
March 24th, 2009 at 10:26 am
let’s face it. There won’t be 8 DE’s selected in Round 1 after Orakpo. somebody good will fall to Round 2
March 24th, 2009 at 10:31 am
good mock but i would switch crabtree with best available OT and round 3 best available safety since huff plays both fs and ss.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:32 am
correction ***
Round 1: WR Michael Crabtree
Round 2: DE Everette Brown, Aaron Maybin, Tyson Jackson, Larry English, Michael Johnson, Robert Ayers, Connor Barwin, Jarron Gilbert
Round 3: SS Louis Delmas, Emanuel Cook, Kevin Ellison, Chip Vaughn, Patrick Chung
Round 4: DT Sammie Lee Hill, Vance Walker, Terrance Taylor, Terrance Knighton
Round 7: OLB Anthony Heygood, Kaluka Maiava, Mortty Ivy, Solomon Elimimian
March 24th, 2009 at 10:34 am
thanks crank. I corrected the SS issue. I noticed that right after I posted …
March 24th, 2009 at 10:37 am
# S&B (BJ Raji / Jarron Gilbert @ 7 & 40 to fix 31st run D) Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 10:11 am
This draft will get the Raiders knocking on the door of playoffs this yr.
1. BJ Raji, DT, Boston College – Run stopper, commands double team
2. Jarron Gilber, DE, San Jose State – Run stopper athletic
3. Jasper Brinkley, MLB, South Carolina – Big, fast and hits hard
4. David Bruton, FS, Notre Dame – 6′2 219 4.46 40
7. Johnny Knox, WR, Abilene Christian – 4.3 40 for Al Davis
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That’s not bad. I’m not that high on Raji at No. 7 but Gilbert-Brinkley in Rounds 2-3 would be nice. I’m a big fan of Phil Loadholt in either 2 or 3 but from Cable’s comments last week about how the team will stick with the same type o-linemen they have for the ZBS and the signings of Pears and Barnes, I’m not really expecting the Raiders to take Loadholt. Cable also added that the “power” element Davis talked about would be more 2 tight end sets (and I suspect more Michael Bush) and not necessarily bigger, more powerful o-linemen. The trade for Satele would seem to support the idea that quick, athletic linemen will be preferred to bigger, road-grading guys.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:39 am
How about this trade?
Derrick Burgess, Michael Huff and a 7th Round pick in exchange for Braylon Edwards?
Browns wanted a 2nd, 5th and Steve Smith from the Giants.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:39 am
It’s sucks not having a local news paper at the combine, owners meetings and I am sure the draft. So we have to continue to wait for ESPN or Profootballtalk to post a Raider related story first. I hear Cable spoke an hour ago and no updates anywhere. lol
March 24th, 2009 at 10:47 am
instead of giving all that up for edwards why not bring in marvin harrison and/or amani toomer and use that 7th round pick for depth
March 24th, 2009 at 10:48 am
You guys have been chewing over this draft like a motha.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:51 am
theres nothing else to talk about unless you want to talk about politics baseball or basketball
March 24th, 2009 at 10:51 am
S &B,
I think you were a little gracious in your assessment of the OT’s taken. For instance you said Levi Brown-good player. He was moved to RT last year and gave up 11 sacks, the most in the leauge for a RT (3.5 more than Cornell). I would say he is well below average.
D’Brickashaw is a middle of the pack OT in his third year, was horrible his rookie year, and you give him a “good player”. I’m not buying it, he is nowhere near worthy of the 4th pick in the draft.
But definately OT’s have panned out better than the WR, just didn’t like your assessment of a few of them.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:53 am
So, everyone in the AFC West is going 3-4, I hear. Satele knows 3-4’s but never played in a ZBS before.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:57 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 10:32 am
correction ***
Round 1: WR Michael Crabtree
Round 2: DE Everette Brown, Aaron Maybin, Tyson Jackson, Larry English, Michael Johnson, Robert Ayers, Connor Barwin, Jarron Gilbert
Round 3: SS Louis Delmas, Emanuel Cook, Kevin Ellison, Chip Vaughn, Patrick Chung
Round 4: DT Sammie Lee Hill, Vance Walker, Terrance Taylor, Terrance Knighton
Round 7: OLB Anthony Heygood, Kaluka Maiava, Mortty Ivy, Solomon Elimimian
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Most of those guys in Round 2 you listed will not be there. If Robert Ayers falls that far, then something is wrong. Barwin, Gilbert and Johnson have a shot at being there though.
Taking a Safety in Round 3 would be too early IMO. I would rather see them take a Safety in Round 4.
I hope when the team conducts interviews of potential draftees, that they will be targeting the TOUGH, STRONG AND NASTY FOOTBALL PLAYERS instead of the 40 time track athlete types.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:57 am
but satele had some good linebackers playing for him in seatle. i don’t know if we have the players to run a 3-4
March 24th, 2009 at 10:58 am
marshall**
March 24th, 2009 at 10:59 am
marshall adjusted his defense whether it was a 4-3 or a 3-4 it depended on the team and situation.
March 24th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Profootballtalk.com
says….
“Raiders C Samson Satele said his experience playing against the 3-4 defenses will help in games against the three other teams in the AFC West. [Editor’s note: We agree, as long as being blasted by the nose tackle into the legs of the quarterback counts as “help”.
March 24th, 2009 at 11:02 am
instead of giving all that up for edwards why not bring in marvin harrison and/or amani toomer and use that 7th round pick for depth
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Toomer and/or Harrison have little to nothing to offer. Braylon Edwards is a stud (#1 WR)
March 24th, 2009 at 11:03 am
No just saying all our AFC West opponnets are going 3-4
And our new Center, Satele has experience facing 3-4’s, just not in a ZBS
March 24th, 2009 at 11:03 am
My draft wish list:
1) BJ Raji-gotta stop the run some day, seems like the best way to start working on that
2) Loadholt-perfect RT, great in run game, not buying cast-offs Pears and Barnes as long-term solutions.
3) Mike Thomas- possession receiver with exceptional hands, 4.4 speed and great collegiate production
4) Worrell Williams- Athletic enough to push for 3rd LB spot, would help continue excellence in special teams
6) Frank Summers- play-making FB with hands; Oakland native
7) Fastest DB on the board
March 24th, 2009 at 11:04 am
what nose tackle plays in the afc west that samson has to worry about?
March 24th, 2009 at 11:05 am
From Peter King. Harrison is not coming here or maybe anywhere.
“I keep hearing Marvin Harrison is finished. He’s not being pursued by any teams now, and I think he’ll never play again. He’s too proud to be someone’s third receiver, he doesn’t love the game enough to play third or fourth receiver somewhere, and he has no interest in limping through a season for $3 million plus incentives.”
March 24th, 2009 at 11:07 am
I hope when the team conducts interviews of potential draftees, that they will be targeting the TOUGH, STRONG AND NASTY FOOTBALL PLAYERS instead of the 40 time track athlete types.
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couldn’t agree more
March 24th, 2009 at 11:08 am
what nose tackle plays in the afc west that samson has to worry about?
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Jamal Williams, but he’s 33 years old
March 24th, 2009 at 11:10 am
i think they should be more worried about how our tackles are going to handle roidmerriman
March 24th, 2009 at 11:11 am
This is MY Draft, get your own S&B. lol
1- Raji
2- Gilbert
3- Bruton/JB
4- JB/ Bruton
March 24th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Dream on fellas. We all know the pick will be Crabtree. It’s Mr. Davis we are talking about here.
March 24th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Here is another WR prospect in the last round(s) of the draft. Eron Riley from Duke he is 200 lbs, 6′3″ and ran a 4.38 40 yard dash.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=68155&draftyear=2009&genpos=WR
March 24th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Most of those guys in Round 2 you listed will not be there. If Robert Ayers falls that far, then something is wrong. Barwin, Gilbert and Johnson have a shot at being there though.
Taking a Safety in Round 3 would be too early IMO. I would rather see them take a Safety in Round 4.
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dark knight: I don’t think Round 3 is too high for a safety. Branch & Eugene are the holdovers if Huff is really on the trade block. We need competition at both safety spots
There are about 9 or 10 talented DE’s in this draft class. I can’t imagine all of them will be gone before we’re on the clock in Round 2
March 24th, 2009 at 11:14 am
I’d rather have Toomer than Harrison. Big target, great hands, moves the chains, great guy, made a ton of clutch catches in the Giants’ Super Bowl run.
But if we draft a WR in Rounds 1 or 2 there’s probably not room for either with: Draft Pick, JLH, Schilens, Walker and Shields. Most teams carry only 4 or 5 WRs I believe. We also have DJ Hall, Watkins and a couple other guys on the back burner.
March 24th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Al will pick Bruton If he is there in the 3rd or 4th for sure. IMO Al will not pass on a 6′2 219 Safety that runs a 4.46. No Way.
March 24th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Dream on fellas. We all know the pick will be Crabtree. It’s Mr. Davis we are talking about here.
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Davis wants to score points. Russell, McFadden & Crabtree would be evidence of that
March 24th, 2009 at 11:21 am
If you do not know by now I have been pushing for Crabtree at 7. The reason being there are no free agent WRs out there worth signing and we need a WR that can come out and help us on day one. Now if we were deep at the WR position I would look at taking a lineman OL or DL best available and we need both. Or trading down for an additional pick. With my first round pick I think Heyward-Bey would be a good project WR. I think he has all the tools and possible upside but the system he was in slowed his development (kid should had went to another program). I like Bey over Maclin.
One thing that is really bothering me about Crabtree and I am not sure why is in his video I never saw him run a WR reverse once or take two steps back behind the line of scrimage and rush for a short 1st down. I guess my concern could be related back to speed.
Has anyone ever saw Crabtree run a WR reverse?
March 24th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Name one High pick that Al drafted in early rounds, that didn’t run a fast 40?? Even Nnamdi ran a 4.38 & 4.4. Crab runs a 4.55+ . I’m not saying that the 40 Is a way to measure talent, but that’s how Al sees it. No Crab.
March 24th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Raider O Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Al will pick Bruton If he is there in the 3rd or 4th for sure. IMO Al will not pass on a 6′2 219 Safety that runs a 4.46. No Way.
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Yeah but can Bruton tackle and cover?
March 24th, 2009 at 11:29 am
631- Chris I am with you man but the onky problem is all of the guys you just named are suspect. Besides JLH and Schilens who knows what we have. Toomer would be good for 1-2 years but he is not a long term fix. Walker who knows what planet he will be on next year. Shields may be good but I am more concerned about him getting hurt. He was hurt at Richmond on and off. Did not play the majority of his senior year with a busted knee. Did not make it through practice last year busted knee. Watkins does not seem able to get open and hurt. Carter two blew out knees now. DJ Hall, Watkins, Holland. Not consistant man they are practice WRs. Heck Walker is a practice WR as well. : )
March 24th, 2009 at 11:29 am
CJ Legend 34: I haven’t. Crabs isn’t the fastest guy on the planet. That’s been established
He’s got great hands and he’s a good route runner. He scores points. He’s a playmaker
that’s what we need
March 24th, 2009 at 11:30 am
It might be crabtree but if anyone would pass on crabtree for maclin it would be big al, and thats not such a bad thing maclin is far more explosive than crabtree and look at deshanw jackson 62 rec 900+ yrds as a rookie and maclin is 6′0 199 to jackson’s 5′10 17O and just as explosive. Big Al does his own thing and if he feels maclin is the guy than he will draft him.
March 24th, 2009 at 11:30 am
I don’t like Bey. No numbers in college. Suspect hands. I think he’s another Troy Williamson/Vernon Davis type physical specimen who isn’t skilled enough at the actual game of football to ever excel. Maclin and Crabtree are much better. I’d rather have Kenny Britt, Percy Harvin and maybe Hakeem Nicks as well over Heyward-Bey.
It’s a good thing Al is beginning to see what needs to change for the Raiders to be great again. If this were the past, I suspect we’d reach for Heyward-Bey at No. 7 and then trade a boatload to move up from Round 2 to ensure we get Michael Johnson (DE, Georgia Tech). While I could see Al drafting one of those guys in Round 2 if they’re still there (which would be a reasonable spot to take a chance on them) I don’t think he’ll do anything crazy to get them just because of their workout skills.
March 24th, 2009 at 11:31 am
So if Al drafts a WR, he willmist likely draft Maclin or DHB.
Now Cable who is in Al’s ear this season, which is a good thing. Cable was an O lineman and an OL coach, he loves to run, and run block. He knows how bad his D line is, he used to practice his Oline against them. Remember how will our Oline looked in practice. That’s an indication of how bad the D line was.
March 24th, 2009 at 11:35 am
#636.
Bruton had 200 tackles in 2 yrs. Also they say at DraftCountdown.com that he is good against the run, and his cover skills need improvement.
March 24th, 2009 at 11:35 am
# Dakota Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Sorry, I don’t buy it. I can’t stand Al Davis, but I don’t buy into him forcing the defense to play a certain way. I certainly think he has things he wants to see done, but I think D-coordinators have some wiggle room. I think Ryan sucked as a 4-3 DC, but I am actually rooting for the guy to succeed with a 3-4 in Cleveland…even though I trashed him in here.
Anyhow, just look at how Bresnahan used the LBs from 2000-2003 compared to how Ryan used them. Bresnahan utilized the blitz much more often. Coaching matters.
Hopefully Marshall will simply be a better 4-3 DC than Ryan ever could be since he was a 3-4 guy coming out of NE.
It is our only hope.
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I agree, but I still claim the rights to blame Al if the D still sucks, im NOT on the Marshall bandwagon…
and im sick of 4-3…
March 24th, 2009 at 11:36 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 11:21 am
If you do not know by now I have been pushing for Crabtree at 7. The reason being there are no free agent WRs out there worth signing and we need a WR that can come out and help us on day one. Now if we were deep at the WR position I would look at taking a lineman OL or DL best available and we need both. Or trading down for an additional pick. With my first round pick I think Heyward-Bey would be a good project WR. I think he has all the tools and possible upside but the system he was in slowed his development (kid should had went to another program). I like Bey over Maclin.
One thing that is really bothering me about Crabtree and I am not sure why is in his video I never saw him run a WR reverse once or take two steps back behind the line of scrimage and rush for a short 1st down. I guess my concern could be related back to speed.
Has anyone ever saw Crabtree run a WR reverse?
^^^^^^^^
I prefer Heyward-Bey, Britt and Nicks ahead of Maclin as well.
March 24th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Raider O Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 11:35 am
#636.
Bruton had 200 tackles in 2 yrs. Also they say at DraftCountdown.com that he is good against the run, and his cover skills need improvement.
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How could a player like Bruton fall to Round 4 then if he is big and productive and fast? Weird….
March 24th, 2009 at 11:39 am
J-russ,Miller,Bush,Dmac,Chaz,JLH,(Shields??) Crabtree or Maclin would be young dangerous squad, I think they might draft d-line after the first rd because I think they have their C, Barnes vs Henderson with the loser starting at RT.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!
March 24th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Once again TRADING DOWN from the #7 pick should be a priority in this draft and TARGETING draftees, that they will are TOUGH, STRONG AND NASTY FOOTBALL PLAYERS instead of the 40 time track athlete types will be a huge key this year.
If the old man drafts 40 yard dash speed guys at positions that are NOT a need…..then once again….the old man would have dropped the ball and set the team back.
March 24th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Good point NoMoreFargas,
Maclin is about 6-0, 200. Same size or bigger than Torry Holt, Tim Brown, Reggie Wayne, Chad Johnson, Houshmanzadeh, Greg Jennings, Hines Ward, Santonio Holmes and a ton of other great WRs. People who say Maclin doesn’t have the size to be a No. 1 guy don’t know what they’re talking about.
March 24th, 2009 at 11:43 am
This may sound crazy but you know what I think makes Crabtree a good WR besides his vision and strength? It is never talked about among judging WR talent but it means a lot. Crabtree can dance like a running back, the guy has happy feet man. It drives defenders crazy, trying to keep their eyes on his belt to make a tackle. Tim Brown, could dance, shoulders always moving feet always skipping and sliding. Look at the video. This dancing is what helps these guys who run slow 40 times. I can’t explain it, I can just see it on video. Nicks from NC is the same way.
Now guys like Calvin Johnson, Owens, Moss, Heyward-Bey, Andre Johnson that are long and fast they don’t dance they just get to their spot with quickness and rely on the high ball.
Maclin is hard to judge because his 40 time has dropped (but to me he is game fast!!!)and he does not dance. He gets to a spot fast but he does not have that power or hght so he is hard to call. I would hate to see him like Ginn out there.
March 24th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Bruton is also a lock to attend the pro-bowl as a Special Teams gunner. Straight tore it up at ND on the coverage teams. The knock on Bruton is that he does not have good hands and he isn’t very fluid in coverage. I watched almost every ND game last year and Bruton was constantly making playings on the field, and he looks like a better pro than Zbikowski
March 24th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Don’t know if anyone said this but……
You guys been discussing how many reps of 225 A. Smith put up or Orakpo put up or Raji put up, but Satele put up 42 at the combine the year he came out. Dude was just throwing them up like they were 10’s on the bar. He’s a beast. Way better mauler than Grove.
March 24th, 2009 at 11:49 am
# vegas raider Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 10:51 am
S &B,
I think you were a little gracious in your assessment of the OT’s taken. For instance you said Levi Brown-good player. He was moved to RT last year and gave up 11 sacks, the most in the leauge for a RT (3.5 more than Cornell). I would say he is well below average.
D’Brickashaw is a middle of the pack OT in his third year, was horrible his rookie year, and you give him a “good player”. I’m not buying it, he is nowhere near worthy of the 4th pick in the draft.
But definately OT’s have panned out better than the WR, just didn’t like your assessment of a few of them.
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Couple of quick notes here: Levi Brown was moved to Right tackle only because Matt Leinert, the “supposed” starting Q of the Cardinals is left handed so Brown was drafted and set up to protect Leinerts blind side. The results, so far, have been mixed, but they did get to the Super Bowl with the guy, so how bad can he be??
Word from the Jets is D’Brickashaw Ferguson has also had mixed results. Not playing like an overall number 4 pick, but certainly not a bust either. Just my two cents on the subject.
March 24th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Good call CINY how tall is steve smith 5′9 what makes a no 1 wr isn’t his size but the abiltiy to consitently get open and catch the ball
March 24th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Al Davis’ stopwatch
If he (Satele)is better than Grove then why did Miami let him go and pay Grove the big bucks?
Is Bill Parcell’s stupid?
NOT
March 24th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Maclin may have the size of some of the great receivers, but he plays nowhere near as physical as those guys do. He plays like your typical “burner” looking for the outside to run past people.
He may develop this skill in the next level, he seems like a smart guy and a hard enough worker to do so. At this stage in the game, Crabtree is much more of a “polished” receiver.
March 24th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Raider O Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 11:11 am
This is MY Draft, get your own S&B. lol
1- Raji
2- Gilbert
3- Bruton/JB
4- JB/ Bruton
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By all means…is there any way we can get you into Al’s office before the selections are made!
Go big and physical with the 1st three and then get some depth and competition in the secondary. Sounds good to me
March 24th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Oak,
Didn’t they move Brown to RT also because they signed Mike Gandy who out-performed Brown? Surely if Brown was a better LT, once they switched to Warner they would have made the appropriate move at tackle as well. Either way, he gave up more sacks than any other RT in the league.
March 24th, 2009 at 11:59 am
666,
That makes me wonder too. Parcells knows lineman, and tough guys.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Satele is more suited to the ZBS than Grove, Miami runs a man blocking scheme. So in essence we have taken two players who did not match their respective teams’ blocking style and swapped em. Both are 2nd rounders, both are 300 lbs. So you could call it a wash to this point. The difference is that Satele is 5 years younger than Grove and has not missed a football game in 6 years (including college).
March 24th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
LOL. Oakglenn said “a couple of quick notes here”. It’s a blog, Oakglenn. Not a seminar. You’re going to have to relax.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Satele is more suited to the ZBS than Grove, Miami runs a man blocking scheme. So in essence we have taken two players who did not match their respective teams’ blocking style and swapped em. Both are 2nd rounders, both are 300 lbs. So you could call it a wash to this point. The difference is that Satele is 5 years younger than Grove and has not missed a football game in 6 years (including college).
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Good post. I think Cable and the new OL coach from Cal did their homework on this guy. Plus, there Arizona Cardinals were interested in this guy too. So he has value.
Remember, Grove was drafted at a time the Raiders were “trying” to run a man blocking scheme.
This was a good smart pick. Trade a 6th rounder for a guy that has started every game of his career for a playoff team.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Oakglenn’s about to pull out the overhead projector…That’s what they do in Alameda when they need to get the point across.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
What Cable and Al have done so far on he offensive line has been exceptional and controlled. Two things we’ve lately not been known for.
And they’ve done so with young talent, depth and an eye on competition. Anyone crying the retread card doesn’t understand football. These are simply smart moves.
Henderson and Barnes – both under 26 – will battle it out for LT. Two young, hungry tackles who’ve both been starters in the NFL fighting throughout camp for one spot.
At center we’ve got another young, hungry former 2nd round pick who was considered one of the best rookies in the league and started every game of his 2nd season with a serious shoulder injury. Plus Satele will be in a system suited to his athleticism, instead of having to stand his groud against the bull rush.
Again, another guy out to prove himself. And he’ll have Wade and Morris breathing down his neck – two capable backups, without argument.
At RT the loser of the Henderson / Barnes battle will compete with the likes of Pears, McQuistan and what I hope will be a late round (4th, perhaps) offensive line rookie.
The guard positions are set with Gallery and Carlisle, but even Carlisle will be pushed by Morris and McQ.
And all of this being overseen by perhaps the greatest offensive line coaching staff in the league of Cable, Michalczik and Morgan.
What I’d like to see happen is we address the WR hole through free agency so we can devote our 1st 3 picks in the draft to defense. Toomer would be perfect, Holt perhaps a fantasy but you never know.
And I wouldn’t mind seeing us grab either Roy Williams or Dexter Jackson for some competition and experience at the SS. If we got Williams, he could also play that 3rd linebacker spot if Branch emerges the way we hope he will.
That being said, with our 1st 4 picks I’d do -
1) Orakpo, DE
2) Brace or Marks, DT
3) Chung, SS
4) Durand, G or Pat White, QB/WR
March 24th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Mama said knock you out.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Raider O Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Name one High pick that Al drafted in early rounds, that didn’t run a fast 40?? Even Nnamdi ran a 4.38 & 4.4. Crab runs a 4.55+ . I’m not saying that the 40 Is a way to measure talent, but that’s how Al sees it. No Crab.
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So based on this lame azz statement, Raji wont be the pick either.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
# 649 – doesn’t sound crazy at all. I remember hearing about when Al and Parcells would sit front row at the combine looking at the WAY guys run the 40 (not just the 40 time), the shuttle, etc. It also makes seems to make sense that the last WR we picekd in the 1st rd was a guy who could “dance”. I’d say your point is intriguing at the very least. I’m gonna watch some Crabtree tape to see what you’re talkin about. It’ll be interesting to see what happens if/when he’s there @ 7.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
# vegas raider Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Oak,
Didn’t they move Brown to RT also because they signed Mike Gandy who out-performed Brown? Surely if Brown was a better LT, once they switched to Warner they would have made the appropriate move at tackle as well. Either way, he gave up more sacks than any other RT in the league.
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No. Brown was signed because he could play either side, but they moved him to RT not because he got outplayed, but to protect Leinerts blind side. Moving these guys from one side to the other is the kiss of death for the player, because every single thing is the exact opposite. Hands, footwork, viewing angles, everything. To me that was the problem with Gallery: they kept moving him from one side to the other.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
maddenraider can’t post as himself anymore. No one listens to his bronco invested rants.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Lots of rumors that the swat team went to that dudes house to assassinate him, and that they got filled with emotion and skipped a bunch of protocol, and that that’s what might have gotten them killed.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Oakglenn, give us a power point demonstration on who we should draft in the 3rd round. LOL.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
N Front of ya momma’s house Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Lots of rumors that the swat team went to that dudes house to assassinate him, and that they got filled with emotion and skipped a bunch of protocol, and that that’s what might have gotten them killed.
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Stop lying you stupid idiot.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Oakglenn, give us a final point of reference….
March 24th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Ted Ginn Jr. is an inch shorter and 20+ pounds lighter than Maclin. That comparison isn’t really valid. The size difference between Ginn and Maclin is greater than the size difference between Maclin and Anquan Boldin.
Oh, and for all those we don’t need a WR guys, the ‘disappointing’ Ginn had more yards AND receptions in 2008 than JLH, Walker and Schilens combined.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Just saying what I’m hearing, Oakhole. The mainstream press is pushing it under a rug for now because they don’t want to make the police look bad. But it’s all over the indy bay area blogs. When is the last time a lone gunman was able to take out a couple of swat team members? This wasn’t Oswald. Just some typical town brother with a hand gun. They all rushed in and wanted a piece of him, and he just picked them off. Either that or this dude should have been a sharp shooter in the military.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
31 Oakland Raiders according to nfl . com we were 31st against run, not 15th
March 24th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
N Front of ya momma’s house Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Just saying what I’m hearing, Oakhole. The mainstream press is pushing it under a rug for now because they don’t want to make the police look bad. But it’s all over the indy bay area blogs. When is the last time a lone gunman was able to take out a couple of swat team members? This wasn’t Oswald. Just some typical town brother with a hand gun. They all rushed in and wanted a piece of him, and he just picked them off. Either that or this dude should have been a sharp shooter in the military.
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I have been a police officer for 19 years. Your comments is complete bs. Don’t post assumptions about something as tragic as what happened.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Kyle, the Raiders have been 31st against the run since about 1986. Al Davis doesn’t care about stopping the run, because the mighty Raiders are going to put points on the board and opponents are going to be forced to throw into our masterful secondary. Hasn’t this master plan worked so well in the past 6 years? LOL.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
The guy had an assault rifle didn’t he? Not a handgun. Another reason to try to protect our borders, to many illegal weapons getting here in the hands of the wrong people. A damn shame.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
N Front of ya momma’s house Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Kyle, the Raiders have been 31st against the run since about 1986. Al Davis doesn’t care about stopping the run,
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no one answers this fool, because no once cares what maddenloser is posting next.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
It’s gonna be 12 in a row after the first game of the year, and 13 in a row after you play the Chargers again. Get used to it fader fans. Your team is the Chargers bitch in the AFC west.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Oakhole, you know those OPD guys lost control. There’s no excuse for losing multiple swat team members to one guy with a hand gun. They didn’t follow protocol. It was a military style assassination mission, and the lives of cops were spared in the process. Don’t worry, there’ll be no political backlash. Mainstream press has buried it. But you know that’s what happened. Either that or the OPD’s swat team is about as organized as a Chinese fire drill, and needs a serious overhaul. It’s one or the other.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Vegas Raider, we close the borders and the Raiders lose about half of their fans.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
dude was hiding in a closet with an AK in his sisters apartment. when the swat members arrived he blasted thru the closet door and killed two of them. They probably didn’t follow protocol.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
I hate the City of Oakhole!
Your a pig!!
Go to hell and stay out of this blog its for normal American citizens not insecure losers that need to carry a gun to feel adequate…..to quote a poster from yesterday…..the only good cop is a dead cop.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
The NFL on Monday announced the compensatory picks for teams that experienced a net loss of free agents in 2008. Overall, the league awarded 32 picks at the end of rounds 3-7 in the 2009 NFL Draft on April 25-26. Here is the entire list:
Round (pick that round-number overall) team
3 (33-97) New England
3 (34-98) Cincinnati
3 (35-99) Chicago
3 (36-100) NY Giants
4 (33-133) San Diego
4 (34-134) San Diego
4 (35-135) Tennessee
4 (36-136) Indianapolis
5 (33-169) Pittsburgh
5 (34-170) New England
5 (35-171) San Francisco
5 (36-172) Dallas
5 (37-173) Tennessee
6 (33-206) Tennessee
6 (34-207) New England
6 (35-2080 Dallas
6 (36-209) Cincinnati
7 (33-242) Tennessee
7 (34-243) Washington
7 (35-244) San Francisco
7 (36-245) Seattle
7 (37-246) Chicago
7 (38-247) Seattle
7 (39-248) Seattle
7 (40-249) Cincinnati
7 (41-250) Jacksonville
7 (42-251) Chicago
7 (43-252) Cincinnati
7 (44-253) Jacksonville
7 (45-254) Arizona
7 (46-255) Detroit
7 (47-256) Kansas City
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that stinks!
March 24th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Poor drama queen MR has to turn every tragedy into a racially-based conspiracy.
Weak.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
They all wanted a piece of him, Oakglenn. They wanted payback. They let emotion get in the way of smart police work. It’s so simple Al Davis would point it out on the overhead projector.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
I’m not MR, Bo. I know you think everyone is MR, but it’s not true. And, I never said anything about race. You’re the first one to bring up race today.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
N Front of ya momma’s house Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Oakhole, you know those OPD guys lost control. There’s no excuse for losing multiple swat team members to one guy with a hand gun. They didn’t follow protocol. It was a military style assassination mission, and the lives of cops were spared in the process. Don’t worry, there’ll be no political backlash. Mainstream press has buried it. But you know that’s what happened. Either that or the OPD’s swat team is about as organized as a Chinese fire drill, and needs a serious overhaul. It’s one or the other.
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You absolutely have no idea what you are talking about, and it’s quite obvious. Please for the sake of us all, and yourself, just keep your comments regarding this matter to yourself, unless you want to continue to look quite stupid.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Given the skill sets of our existing offense most people should conclude that WR is simply not a focal point.
A developing QB is enough of a reason. Baltimore led the league in rush attempts last year because of Flacco. You do not go out and get a first round WR to throw to so your franchise QB can get lit up.
Those that thought our Oline was improving late last year must be dumbfounded as to why Cable is going to potentially go with three new starters next year.
Our offensive line looked better because we did not ask them to do much. We will be conservative again next year. We will see alot more two TE sets with Bush and Dmac on the field at the same time.
Defense is much the same. Our line play is embarrasing. Do not expect Marshall to coach our Dline to respectability. We will draft for Dline improvement day one. Marshall is not a magician.
Without this focus in 2009 many on this blog will talk about how much talent we have but we do not win games. Many will site poor coaching etc etc etc.
Poor line play is now our biggest problem because we have not had good enough athletes at the line positions.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
at one point last year, Ronald Curry and Drew Carter were in line for starting jobs. Seven months later, neither player can even find a job as a backup or special teams player.
Ronald Curry led the Raiders in receiving in 2006 and 2007. He was the team’s second-most productive wide receiver last season. Yet, he is out of a job.
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both these guys were ahead of Higgins & Schilens on the depth chart. what does that tell you?
March 24th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
“the only good cop is a dead cop”
Jeezus man, where do you want to live, Zimbabwe??
March 24th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Oakhole, obviously, denial aint just a river in Egypt. Enjoy your blissfully ignorant world, while the rest of us discuss reality. Those cops rushed in to assassinate him and didn’t follow protocol. No excuse ever for one guy to kill multiple swat team members. Especially some street thug.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Police = leach on the scrotum of society
March 24th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
lets not get started about guns here. have you ever heard of the second amendment?
March 24th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Vegas Raider, you’re a fan of a team that markets itself to Mexicans, documented or not, more so than any other NFL franchise. Think Al cares if they’re here legally? Long as they’re buying Raiders shyt…
March 24th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Just numbers:
1.Points per gm when starting: Henderson 26ppg, Harris 12 ppg
2. J. Russell last 7 gms: 61% comp, 1,134 yds, 7td, 4int
3. Points per game last 6 gms: 22 per game
4. Sacks given up: 1st 10 gms: 26 or 2.6 per gm: Last 6gms: 9 or 1.3 per gm
5. When Bush gets at least 10 carries in gm (K.C, Buf, S.D, T.B) 71 carries 370 yds 5.2 yds per carry
6. Three playcallers on offense including the Kiffin debacle
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Going into 2009:
1. Upgraded head coach, QB coach, Offensive Coordinator
2. Upgraded tackle positions
3. Upgraded Center
4. DMAC will be healthy on week 1 for first time since 1st K.C game
5. Cable knows what Bush can do
6. Javon Walker, like Tommy Kelly on defense, will be another year removed from knee surgery
7. Get Arman Shields on the field for 1st time
8. JLH and Schilens have another yr under their belt
Our defense gave up 24 points per game in the last 7 gms
Offensive playmakers just need to keep playing
Defense needs to be upgraded!!!! Starting in late April!
March 24th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Nader64 Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
# 649 – doesn’t sound crazy at all. I remember hearing about when Al and Parcells would sit front row at the combine looking at the WAY guys run the 40 (not just the 40 time), the shuttle, etc. It also makes seems to make sense that the last WR we picekd in the 1st rd was a guy who could “dance”. I’d say your point is intriguing at the very least. I’m gonna watch some Crabtree tape to see what you’re talkin about. It’ll be interesting to see what happens if/when he’s there @ 7.
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Nader when you check out his foot work, also look at his vision to find the hole and the way he runs like a running back. Check out Tim Brown’s videos as well. Tim was fast but he always had the defense guessing his direction.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
The violence we see today has more to do with poverty and the underground drug market than illegals. They’re just another player in the game. If it’s not them, it will be someone else. As long as there’s poverty and a black market.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
#687 LMAO
March 24th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
#696
When you quit hiding from under your new monikor of the week, I will address your question
March 24th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
This is the only name I’ve ever posted under, Vegas Raider. But you can duck the question all you want. My point’s made.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
I like my gun.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
You do not go out and get a first round WR to throw to so your franchise QB can get lit up.
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Charlie: you do not draft a QB #1 overall to throw 12 times a game. If we didn’t care about Russell or the passing game we would have retained John Defillipo & James Lofton. Then hired another run oriented OC to replace Knapp. Instead we brought in Hackett & Tollner. We lost Curry, Lelie & Carter from last years WR corps. Walker’s pay went from 10 mil to 2 mil and many other players restructured. WHY? what FA’s have we brought in? we have the lowest paid and the least productive WR corps in the league. Quit drinking the Kool-Aid and wake up. We’re paving the way to bring in a #1 WR … all the signs are there. clear as day.
how many veteran WR’s have been in for a visit?
Ebenezer Ekuban visited last week and DT Joseph was resigned. Gunheim takes Kalimnba Edwards’ roster spot unless EE gets signed. Kelly & Warren took less money up front to stay.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
new post you moron
March 24th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Sure
March 24th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
RRS
My only point is that we have bigger issues than WR.
I would love to upgrade that position but we have too may other holes to fill.
We are not a respectable football team. A WR will IMO have much less of an impact on wins and losses than a first round focus on DE DT and maybe LB.
I hope that what we are doing on the Oline will be an improvement. That is unproven and still a work in progress.
I am tired of being not just beaten but emabarrassed by good NFL teams. It has gone on for too long and we have tried new coaches and prolific skill guys and it has not worked.
Let’s try a line focus. So far it looks like Cable agrees.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
N Front of ya momma’s house Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
I’m not MR, Bo. I know you think everyone is MR, but it’s not true.
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If I thought everyone was MR I would be in prison.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
White Raider fans who are anti immigrant have to be the funniest creatures on the planet. The Raiders have more Mexican fans than Don Francisco.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Sorry meant to say “first day focus”.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
at one point last year, Ronald Curry and Drew Carter were in line for starting jobs. Seven months later, neither player can even find a job as a backup or special teams player.
Ronald Curry led the Raiders in receiving in 2006 and 2007. He was the team’s second-most productive wide receiver last season. Yet, he is out of a job.
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both these guys were ahead of Higgins & Schilens on the depth chart. what does that tell you?
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It tells me that Kiffin did not know what the #eck he was doing!!!!
March 24th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Higgins – punt returner
Schilens – injured last year
Walker – injured last year (IR)
Shields – injured last year (IR)
Watkins – camp fodder
Holland – camp fodder
DJ Hall – camp fodder
March 24th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
# N Front of ya momma’s house Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
This is the only name I’ve ever posted under, Vegas Raider. But you can duck the question all you want. My point’s made.
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come on azz hole, you are the only one who asks the same questions, brings up Al Davis and his projector, brings race into everything, and changes the subject to some politically related issue. And also, the only one who sits here and lies about it. you’re getting stupider maddentroller
March 24th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
I think Jarron Gilbert would be an excellent 2nd Round pick for this team!
He can play DT but he can also play DE because of his size, quickness and long arms.
March 26th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Good afternoon.
I have few questions.
Have we looked at Pace or Rodney Harrison (if these guys are still available)?
If it is true that no teams contacted Ray Lewis; why the heck did we not contact him?
Is Al going to do the right thing and get DEFENSIVE help in the 1st & 2nd rounds?
PLEASE Let’s NOT draft andre, or maclin, or crabtree.
We cannot afford a bust at #7.
I would really like to see a 10&6 record this coming season at least.
We have suffered for a long time.
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