Raji report complicates matters
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, April 2nd, 2009 at 1:41 pm in Oakland Raiders.
CNN-SI is reporting Boston College defensive tackle B.J. Raji tested positive for drugs at the NFL scouting combine and that teams were already aware he had tested positive for marijuana at Boston College.
There are some mock drafts, including one by former Raider exec Mike Lombardi, which have the Raiders taking Raji in an effort to shore up the NFL’s 31st-ranked rushing defense.
Drug test stories always make me a little uncomfortable. It’s a mine field fraught with the possibility of error, with those who want to float information for their own purposes and reporters eager to be the first to a story.
I’ve heard rumors before, but nothing close to the reporting stage. Frankly, without the drug test directly in front of me so I could see it with my own eyes (and someone who could help me understand what I was looking at), I’d just as soon take a pass.
It’s like one of those occasions where I run into a Raiders player out on the town during a road trip. “You going to write about this?,” they’ll sometimes ask.
My answer?
“Not unless you wind up on a police blotter. Then I’ve got no choice.”
Listen to Warren Sapp talk about how he was linked to cocaine by ESPN, a story which caused him to fall in the first round. Charlie Garner, an affable sort, never did truly trust the media again after a false report in a Philadelphia newspaper chronicled a positive drug test for marijuana.
It usually turns out that most of the stories linking athletes to drugs are true. The NFL seems to have a pipeline regarding its allegedly anonymous drug and steroid program which runs straight to ESPN, Fox, etc.
It makes the league look as if it is serious in cleaning up the problem.
Whether Raji truly has a problem or not, or whether he ever failed a test, is not known.
But it’s out there now, and it could cost him. I’m sure there are teams that fully realize there are players who may go Michael Phelps from time to time, and they’re more worried about the positive test and the negative spin then they are the fact that the drug was actually consumed.
The Raiders are known for going their own way and not concerning themselves with what people think. They had the information anyway. The story alone isn’t going to alter their perception.
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April 2nd, 2009 at 1:50 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:42 pm
The positive drug test is disappointing and shows poor judgement and character. I have to be real here. Drug tests are a big red flag. Although, Warren Sapp was an idiot too.
Therefore, I can understand passing on Raji now.
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S&B: i’ve said this before, you’re a real classy guy. Even though you think run defense is the most important piece of our puzzle, you’re not afraid to pass on a guy that has personal flaws. I’m glad you’re not endorsing him despite the drug issue. There are probably minors present in here. No need to downplay drug use
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I personally would pass on a player with a drug problem Unlike the 80’s the Raiders of today don’t do a good job with players with character problems.
Passing on Raji does not in any way suggest that the defense is not the big issue.
Its about winning football games and I think Raji could help. But if he’s suspended for 4 games at a time then he can’t help us.
Of course, there is a chance the reports could be rumor only.
Anyway, my new mock draft…still focused on defense:
1. Michael Oher, LT, Ole Miss…I would like Tyson Jackson but probably a reach at #7
2. Ron Brace, DT, Boston College…Warren/Sands experiment has to end now!
3. Jasper Brinkley, LB, South Carolina…Winner of Morrison Brinkley contest can move to SLB
4. Mitch King, DE, Iowa…Base DE that hopefully can step up and start.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
RaiderDogg… 4eva… and the rest of you blues fans…
do any of you know Alvin Youngblood??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Youngblood_Hart
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:45 pm
# BabySlash Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:09 am
LMN why are you so cocky and salty today, son?
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I just think it would help a lot to cut down on the redundancy…
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
If Jason Smith, Eugene Monroe and Michael Crabtree are gone, who else is there that has the best value? Maybe one of the defensive ends? I still see Crabtree or Raji ending up a Raider.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
# Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:59 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:22 am
Trolls 35 Raiders 0…
how do you keep score? how does it work? how will it be Trolls 36, Raiders 0… or how will it be Trolls 35, Raiders 1??
LMN this is American football not European football
Before the registration I could add 7 points to my score, 6 for a TD and 1 for a PAT.
Once I got to 98 I would start giving the Raiders a minus in increments of 7 (same concept) 
If another poster would get me angry I would go for the 2 point conversion. 
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Bwahahhahaha… good stuff, LOL, talking about cocky =) LOL
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
I like that mock SnB D
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:57 pm
If the Raiders insist on going for a receiver at #7…I would suggest trading the pick to Arizona for Anquan Boldin.
Please, no unproven college receivers at number 7.
It rarely works
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:59 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Ottocrat, how do you know Gruden didn’t want to come back? Was Gruden offered the position?
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Call it a hunch. Look, all I was saying is, it wasn’t going to happen. It wasn’t an option. We all know it. Engaging in this fantasy is fruitless. Would I have wanted him back? Of course, I loved the guy! It just isn’t reality. Let’s get behind the fatman, and hope he’s the real deal.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:59 pm
SnB,
We both were on the Raji bandwagon, so this is diappointing. Think you have to pass on him, although a positive drug test in college, as long as it is not herion or crack, is far from the be-all-end-all. Orakpo may be a better selection now, although Crabtree is still very tempting, and than D-line and Safety in later rounds.
What if Walker still sucks, not a leap of faith at all, and one of JLH and Schilens gets hurt? Will we even have any shot of getting a first on 3rd and 9?
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Does this mean that 4:20, henceforth will be known as Raji time??
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:00 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
I like that mock SnB D
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I am wrestling with Jarron Gilbert vs. Ron Brace. I really like Gilbert on the Base DE. But Warren and Sands are just awful at the NT and the linebackers need help.
Hopefully the drug test is not true. If the Raiders still get Raji, I will be fine with that. But I am not a big fan of players with drug problems. I assume that Raji recently smoked up to test positive at the NFL Combine. That’s really bad judgement.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
hes dumber than i thought how do you test positive when you know there is gonna be a drug test
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
# SnB Defense Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:00 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
I like that mock SnB D
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I am wrestling with Jarron Gilbert vs. Ron Brace. I really like Gilbert on the Base DE. But Warren and Sands are just awful at the NT and the linebackers need help.
Hopefully the drug test is not true. If the Raiders still get Raji, I will be fine with that. But I am not a big fan of players with drug problems. I assume that Raji recently smoked up to test positive at the NFL Combine. That’s really bad judgement.
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I agree but at the same time the reports are not always true. But if they are yah I would pass on him, sounds immature.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Raji’s positive drug test might make him cheaper @ 7.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Yeah, I don’t see a rookie WR help get us off to a good start, which I think we need, psychologically.
Mario is the LT…..
I’d like Boldin, he could help right away. But Javon Walker & salary………….?
Ergo, Trade down, Mack & Brace.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
vegas raider Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:59 pm
SnB,
We both were on the Raji bandwagon, so this is diappointing. Think you have to pass on him, although a positive drug test in college, as long as it is not herion or crack, is far from the be-all-end-all. Orakpo may be a better selection now, although Crabtree is still very tempting, and than D-line and Safety in later rounds.
What if Walker still sucks, not a leap of faith at all, and one of JLH and Schilens gets hurt? Will we even have any shot of getting a first on 3rd and 9?
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Its just rare to see a receiver make an immediate impact in the NFL. I also don’t see a receiver in Oakland catching more than 3 or 4 balls a game. Can a healthy Walker and Schilens do that? I think they can.
If the Raiders want to go receiver, make a trade with Arizona and get someone that we know can run NFL routes, read defenses and make catches. I get queezy when taking receivers that high in the draft.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:07 pm
15yearsold15yearfan Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
hes dumber than i thought how do you test positive when you know there is gonna be a drug test
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I’ve never used drugs. But I assume that it stays in your system for at least a month or so??? That would mean RAji smoked up in December or January right?
That’s really bad judgement and that’s the problem I have with it. You can’t do that. Regardless of your opinion on the laws etc….an athlete just can’t do that especially when you know a test is coming. Also, this won’t be his 1st time and that’s a big problem for me.
BTW, hey JHill…..Warren and Sands are horrible. And this team better get Ron Brace in the 2nd!
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:07 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:45 pm
# BabySlash Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:09 am
LMN why are you so cocky and salty today, son?
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I just think it would help a lot to cut down on the redundancy…
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Does your war on redundancy extend to posting the same comment twice?
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:08 pm
SnB,
I hear what you are saying about a rookie WR, but we are a year or two away anyway. We can compete for the West, but from the title.
We have used ONE 1st or 2nd round pick on a WR in the last TEN YEARS. The Steelers have used 5. We have neglected the position for far too long and it has caught up to us.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
I’ve never used drugs. But I assume that it stays in your system for at least a month or so??? That would mean RAji smoked up in December or January right?
That’s really bad judgement and that’s the problem I have with it. You can’t do that. Regardless of your opinion on the laws etc….an athlete just can’t do that especially when you know a test is coming. Also, this won’t be his 1st time and that’s a big problem for me.
BTW, hey JHill…..Warren and Sands are horrible. And this team better get Ron Brace in the 2nd!
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only stays in your system a week or two
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Yeah, I don’t see a rookie WR help get us off to a good start, which I think we need, psychologically.
Mario is the LT…..
I’d like Boldin, he could help right away. But Javon Walker & salary………….?
Ergo, Trade down, Mack & Brace.
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I agree 100% on the receiver. All receivers are a crapshoot because the college game is very different to the pro game. Bubble screens etc…don’t translate well. Crabtree could be a baller, but I would be willing to let someone else find that out Get Boldin if we need a receiver.
I like the trade down option now. However, if Aaron Curry, Eugene Monroe, Jason Smith, or Michael Oher somehow slide then you have to take them. With Stafford and Sanchez stepping up their pre-draft work, there is a chance this could happen.
Trading down will be hard. The only way it will happen is if Stafford or Sanchez are still on the board at 7 and a team is concerned about the Jags taking him. And even then, who would trade up. The Bucs or Jets? Will they give up a 2nd rounder?
Maybe….
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
BSJ…
does you posting my post???
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
# vegas raider Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:08 pm
SnB,
I hear what you are saying about a rookie WR, but we are a year or two away anyway. We can compete for the West, but from the title.
We have used ONE 1st or 2nd round pick on a WR in the last TEN YEARS. The Steelers have used 5. We have neglected the position for far too long and it has caught up to us.
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True but the Steelers have also been contenders for years while we are not even close. They can afford to spend picks on a WR like that because they don’t have holes in their team like we have had.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Weed can stay in your system for over a month. 3-4 weeks definately, some cases of chronic use (couldn’t resist) makes it last in the system much longer.
Raji is a pot-head.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Dmunoz,
One of our holes is a WR. It’s blatantly obvious. We do have many holes, though, so can’t go really wrong, unless we draft another RB, lol.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:15 pm
i guess this moves the raiders closer to maclin.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:15 pm
vegas raider Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:08 pm
SnB,
I hear what you are saying about a rookie WR, but we are a year or two away anyway. We can compete for the West, but from the title.
We have used ONE 1st or 2nd round pick on a WR in the last TEN YEARS. The Steelers have used 5. We have neglected the position for far too long and it has caught up to us.
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The trade down would be the best option. The Raiders would have to hope to get another 2nd round pick. They have to secure a NT in the first 2 rounds. With Raji most likely off the board, that leaves Ron Brace at #2.
I hate taking a receiver at number 7. Ramses Barden is the guy the Raiders are hot on getting right now. But he is a 2nd rounder.
If the Raiders take Crabtree, I guess I am cool with it. I just see so many WR busts in the draft, and WRs emerging in the 2nd, 3rd and even 7th rounds to get excited about a receiver that high.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Could Raji fall to 21 now, assuming we get a Philly trade? Drafting Raji and Mack would stimulate my enteldons…
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Determining Need. Let me ask. If you could replace 5 projected starters with 5 draft picks who would you replace in order starting with your highest priority -
My list -
Sands DT – Not good v. run or pass. Hurts TK and LBs.
Burgess DE – Need a Base DE that lets Burgess be a passing down guy. That would help brittle Burgess stay healthy and help run D.
Huff FS – Need a legit play making FS.
Brown / Morrison LB – Either need a star SLB or a solid MLB to push Morrison to SLB.
Barnes RT – Unless he is reborn here, only a slight upgrade to Green.
For the Crab fans I had WR as #6 and RG as #7 in my need list. Overall I’m looking for a Defense draft.
Your need lists?
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Cun-tler to da Bears, per nfln.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
PFT has it too.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
THE BIG CONCERN ABOUT RAJI -
Smoked pot? No.
The fact that you are so 1. stupid or 2. hooked on using that you can’t show up clean for a drug test you know months in advance is coming and frankly is the most import leak you’ll ever take.
THAT’s the real red flag. It’s like a guy showing up high for his first meeting with his parole officer. C’mon man are you THAT messed up?
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Michael Bush ahd a big day the last game of the season, and most of it was to the rightside, Cornell Green
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:26 pm
this is the biggest problem with the raiders.sands still sucks but i think he feels the pressure.
Player Rec Yds Yds/Rec Long TD
Zach Miller 56 778 13.9 63 1
Darren McFadden 29 285 9.8 27 0
Johnnie Lee Higgins 22 366 16.6 84 4
Ronald Curry 19 181 9.5 16 2
Michael Bush 19 162 8.5 25 0
Chaz Schilens 15 226 15.1 60 2
Javon Walker 15 196 13.1 29 1
Ashley Lelie 11 197 17.9 51 2
Tony Stewart 11 81 7.4 17 0
Justin Fargas 10 52 5.2 12 0
Justin Griffith 9 85 9.4 24 1
Luke Lawton 6 30 5.0 12 0
the wr position is the third leading wr on the team.jeramy maclin had a 102 rec as a sophmore.get off the johnnie lee higgins clone thing,it`s not even close.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Broncos and Bears have agreed on a deal for Cutlery.
That’s pretty fast, wow.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
# KoolKell Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Michael Bush ahd a big day the last game of the season, and most of it was to the rightside, Cornell Green
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KoolKell, exactly…
I dont know why guys here have proclaimed Henderson as the Saviour at LT, because as bad as Harris was in Pass-support, Henderson was equally as bad in run-support… all great runs was in right side with Henderson on the field
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:31 pm
PTI is reporting that Cutler was traded to the Bears for Orton and 2 first round picks and a 3rd.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:31 pm
What did the Broncos get?
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:32 pm
COW…
Or, like knocking back a couple of shots before DUI school..
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:32 pm
The Bears will be in the Super Bowl this year now that they have Cutler. My prediction is Bears vs. Chargers.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Wow the Broncos pretty much raped the Bears in that trade, not good for us since this means more picks for Denver. Denver also gave up a 5th rd pick btw
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:33 pm
2x 1st
Kyle Orton
1x 3rd
1x 5th….
Woaw, was TO in Chicago or in Buffalo??
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
We should have made that trade. Russel and our no. 1 for Cutler.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:36 pm
That is a stupid trade from Chicago’s standpoint. Anybody giving up 2 1st’s and a 3rd for Cutler is asking to lose their job.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Now the Bears can have the cry baby he wont last long in that town acting like a baby. Chicago is a tough town no place for wimps, sissies, momma boys, and or ex Bronco’s.
This will be fun watching his career take a nose dive too bad they didn’t trade him to KC it would have been more fun to watch his demise.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
So, the Broncs have the #3 and no QB………..
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
LMN
TO is with the Bills.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
no they don’t have the #3
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Per, Jay Glaser foxsports.com
Donkeys get from da Bears:
1st. & 3rd. this year, + a 1st. next year, AND Kyle Orton.
Da Bears get:
Cun-tler & a 5th. this year.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Chicago needs a QB so it makes sense.
Don’t like Denver having all those picks but as of now THE DONKS HAVE NO QB! Don’t forget, they have no healthy RBs either.
Good news for us.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
The Bears weren’t drafting at #3 FoolKell.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
RaiderDogg… 4eva… and the rest of you blues fans…
do any of you know Alvin Youngblood??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Youngblood_Hart”
LMN
I am very familiar with Alvin and I am disappointed in myself for not mentioning him last night. He is from my hometown, Oakland, and he has played with many of my favorite musicians over the years including Warren Haynes.
Good call.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:39 pm
The Bronco’s now have a choice:
Patrick Ramsey or Kyle Orton at QB…
lmao
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Kyle Orton is underrated. I wouldn’t get too cocky yet. The Broncos will still be better than us.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:40 pm
2x 1st
Kyle Orton
1x 3rd
=
Cutler
1x 5th….
Okay, still a bunch, but I understand Bears, they need a guy like Cutler, and he needs to be in NFC =)
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Chicago has to win NOW or the coaching heads wil roll that’s what leads to these types of trades.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:40 pm
KK
They don’t have the #3, they get a 3rd round pick in addition to 2 first rounders from Da Bears.
Denver has # 12 and 18 this year.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
DMunozspace26,
How are those anti-troll measures working our for ya?
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
The Broncos will pick at #12 and #18.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
The trade gives the Broncos the ammunition to trade up with Detroit or Seattle for one of the top 2 QB’s
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Yeah, but Cutler is already a good QB with a big upside. The Bears were one game from the playoffs. A top notch QB gets you very good.
With Forte in the backfield and Berrien outside with their tight end….they should be able to win 10 or 12 games with their defense.
I think its a good pick. There are so few good QBs in the league.
Meanwhile, Denver is going into the woods. LOL!!!!!
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Chicago had the #3, no?
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
I killed the trolls Kell. You can all think me for taking out the trash.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
RaiderDogg.
I just heard him tonight @ mojo, so im a bit shytfaced, man he plays a mean spade… i drank a few beers with him..
I was standing in the bar, wearing my raider cap, he saw me, said and pointed at me, “this is for yo my fella raider”… LOL, great night =)
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Da Bears got Da Baby QB from Da Bronco
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
# KoolKell Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
DMunozspace26,
How are those anti-troll measures working our for ya?
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Working fine for me, tell me it’s not completely pathetic that this person has that little life but to want to comment using my first initial, last name and old football number lol.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:44 pm
KK
Chicago had the 12th pick in the draft, I believe KC has the 3rd.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:44 pm
DMunoz26
your troll is here again i see.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:44 pm
# KoolKell Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Chicago had the #3, no?
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No KK KC has the #3 pick they were picking at 18 this year.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:45 pm
KK
Correction, the Bears had the 18th pick in the draft
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Wow, my bad. That a good trade by Chicago. Cutler/McDaniels put the Broncos in a very bad position.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Orton in a Donkies uniform! That is the best news of the entire offseason.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:45 pm
I’m the real DMunoz. Some troll beat me to registration and took my name, so I had to add a space. Pretty pathetic really.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:46 pm
LMN
Right on! Tell him I said hello and ask him what it is like to play with Warren Haynes…
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:46 pm
# SilverNBlack666 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:44 pm
DMunoz26
your troll is here again i see.
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Yah, it’s kinda of like having a stalker. It’s flattering that someone is that interested in you but scary that someone has that little life to make you the center of their attention.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:47 pm
#60 made a very good point…who’s to say Denver doesn’t trade up to get either one of the top 2 QBs?
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:47 pm
# DMunoz 26 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:45 pm
I’m the real DMunoz. Some troll beat me to registration and took my name, so I had to add a space. Pretty pathetic really.
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Sorry guy everyone already has seen some of the ridiculous comments you have made and know I would never say anything close to that garbage.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Anyways, I’m the one who got my lawyer to speak with Jerry about registration. So, you can thank me for getting rid of the pathetic trolls. Well, except for one (DMunoz26).
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Coach,
I think the biggest needs are:
1) RT – we have a great set of RBs and we need a destructive RT to clear lanes for DMC, Fargas and Bush. The right side of our OLine is the key to the success of our offense.
2) MLB – Morrison doesn’t convince, he isn’t physical enough to stop the run and to bolster the DTs. Move him to SLB and reinforce the center of our defense.
3) TE – this offense depends on a big, midfield target for JR. Miller is excellent but their is zero depth behind him. We must get a strong back-up and someone capable of giving us a two TE option.
4) WR – we need some size and physicality at WR. A big, safe-hands target for JR. A percentage weapon to take the pressure off Schilens and Higgins.
5) DE – apart from Richardson, all our DEs are pass-rushers and not run-stuffers. We need another big, physical DE to help our DTs.
6) QB – Gradkowski and Walter do not inspire as back-ups to JR. Time to draft a project and train him up as a reserve and/or a future trade option.
That would leave a draft off:
Round 1: Andre Smith OT Alabama. Potentially a great LT, definitely a great RT. Forget the Combine, forget the proDay, this kid is a football player. And he will grow, mature and get better and better. Stick him at RT and watch him make the holes for DMC to exploit.
Round 2: James Laurinaitis MLB Ohio St. Not fast enough for some scouts, not flash enough, not a sack merchant. But this guy is a proven force, a great leader, a great warrior. If he falls to No40 (which some mocks are now saying) he will be the bargain of the decade.
Round 3: James Casey TE Rice. Big enough, quick enough and smart enough to back-up and support Miller. This is a strong kid with a future.
Round 4: Mike Wallace WR Ole Miss. Not a mega-star in the college game but Wallace is 6′0 and ran a 4.33 at the Combine. Real potential and all the physical gifts you could want. He could be a steal.
Round 6: Willie VanDeSteeg DE Minnesota. A bad, bad boy with a history of off-the-field issues. That is why someone of his talent will drop to the 6th. But, the talent is unmistakable and he is an enticing prospect. Well worth the risk.
Round 7: Todd Boeckman QB Ohio State. Completely discounted by most so-called experts but, Boeckman is a two year starter for Ohio State and his numbers are much better than his reputation. A good leader with great size and arm strength – I think he is a total bargain in the 7th. This guy outplayed Pryor in the last bowl game.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Crybaby or not, I’d rather the Broncos didn’t have Cutler. Great.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:49 pm
# DMunoz 26 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Anyways, I’m the one who got my lawyer to speak with Jerry about registration. So, you can thank me for getting rid of the pathetic trolls. Well, except for one (DMunoz26).
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Just proving my point further that you are the troll, get a life seriously it’s not funny like you think. It’s really unsettling you have so little going on in your life that you try to make yourself a complete stranger
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Will the Broncos now take Sanchez at 12?
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:50 pm
DMunoz26, quit impersonating me you pathetic little whiny b*tch. Or, should I just call you JCutler26 for now on.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Anyway moving on to Raider football, This trade can go 1 of 2 ways, it weakens Denver on offense but the 2 1st round picks this year hurts if they make the right picks.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Coach on Wheels,
Here is my need list:
1. DT – Sands and Warren are not starting caliber. There is talent around them but they can’t be utlized because the NTs are so bad. Raji
Brace
2. Base DE – They have Richardson…but he’s a depth guy..they need someone to hold the point, take on TEs and RTs, bullrush and force the ball carrier to his teammates. T. Jackson, Gilbert, Mitch King
3. SLB – Ricky Brown might be a good talent. Might…They need an upgrade here to to get his hat in on the Running Back. Cushing, Brinkley, Follett.
4. WR – They need a possession receiver with great hands. I think Schilens, JLH and Walker can get the job done. My opinion.
5. OT – Henderson did well….still needs competition. Barnes and Pears should be average
6. FS – I’m fine with Tyvon Branch. Huff is a disappointment and hopefully Marshall can do something. I wouldn’t bank on it.
7. RG – Carlisle can get pushed around from time to time
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:53 pm
-Dogg..
im home again :/ i will the next time its a blues festival in DK =) (…and he visits)
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:53 pm
# DMunoz 26 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:50 pm
DMunoz26, quit impersonating me you pathetic little whiny b*tch. Or, should I just call you JCutler26 for now on.
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I can prove it’s me with a Drivers License, Social Security Card, Birth Certificate and Military ID. Can you prove it?
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:53 pm
-Dogg…
he said he hda been a raider fan since 67 =)
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Al Davis once blew two first rounders and two second rounders and also had his ass handed to him by the coach he traded for the picks…maybe Denver can come close to doing that?
Nope, probably not.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Dakota,
If SF passes on Sanchez, Denver will pick him up. They could also trade with Green Bay to move up. It will be interesting to see Chris Simms, Kyle Orton and some rookie fight it out for the starter job.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
# Dakota Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Al Davis once blew two first rounders and two second rounders and also had his ass handed to him by the coach he traded for the picks…maybe Denver can come close to doing that?
Nope, probably not.
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God I hope so Dakota
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
The Donks might draft Rey and Knowshown and roll with Orton. That is a little unsettling.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Ryan Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Orton in a Donkies uniform! That is the best news of the entire offseason.
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LOL!!!! I love it. Orton back to pass…..throws left and its picked off again by Nnamdi Asomugha….his 2nd of the day!!!!!
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:56 pm
RaiderDogg…
If, you can listen via the net. Check these out:
kspc.org Saturdays 11am-1pm
jazzandblues.org Sat & Sun 2-7pm
Good blues music.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:56 pm
# RaiderMight Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Dakota,
If SF passes on Sanchez, Denver will pick him up. They could also trade with Green Bay to move up. It will be interesting to see Chris Simms, Kyle Orton and some rookie fight it out for the starter job.
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If Detroit takes a QB at 1 Sanchez doesnt make it past 4 with Seattle.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:56 pm
vegas raider Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
The Donks might draft Rey and Knowshown and roll with Orton. That is a little unsettling.
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Well the Knowshown part is very disturbing given the Raider DTs.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Well 2 first rd picks or not, they’ve go no QB.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:56 pm
# vegas raider Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
The Donks might draft Rey and Knowshown and roll with Orton. That is a little unsettling.
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Very unsettling
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:57 pm
jay cutler reintroduce yourself to jared allen
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:57 pm
They are saying now it’s 2 1st round picks for Cutler and they give up their 5th.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:58 pm
McDaniels just wait for 2010 to pick up Andrew Walter, and he will handle our azz harder than shanny ever did :/
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:58 pm
I can prove it’s me with a Drivers License, Social Security Card, Birth Certificate and Military ID. Can you prove it?
Ok, lets see the info and we will find out who the real DMunoz is.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Sorry 2 1sts and Orton
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:59 pm
# DMunoz 26 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:58 pm
I can prove it’s me with a Drivers License, Social Security Card, Birth Certificate and Military ID. Can you prove it?
Ok, lets see the info and we will find out who the real DMunoz is.
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I don’t need to prove anything to you, the people on this blog aren’t stupid. Well excluding you anyway.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:59 pm
McDaniels started his time in Denver with a Pro Bowl QB. Tried to trade him, lied about it and got caught. Now, instead of Jay Cutler or Matt Cassell he’s got Kyle Orton, Chris Simms and Patrick Ramsay. If the Lions take Stafford and the Niners take Sanchez the Broncos are screwed.
Nice hire there, Mr. Bowlen.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Donkeys will build their Defense, with those picks…
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Well Orton had a passer rating of 79.
Russell 77.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:01 pm
# KoolKell Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Well Orton had a passer rating of 79.
Russell 77.
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Orton was also on a playoff contender, although he does now have more weapons with Marshall
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:03 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:56 pm
# RaiderMight Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Dakota,
If SF passes on Sanchez, Denver will pick him up. They could also trade with Green Bay to move up. It will be interesting to see Chris Simms, Kyle Orton and some rookie fight it out for the starter job.
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If Detroit takes a QB at 1 Sanchez doesnt make it past 4 with Seattle.
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Doubt it, Seattle loves Stafford, not Sanchez…is this another overvaluing of a USC player by a USC homer?
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:03 pm
though I feel Orton is crap, he still proved ahelluva lot more than russell did, and might have done more than russell ever will :/
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:03 pm
I think Russell’s passer rating was in the high 80s after Cable took over. Am I wrong there?
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:04 pm
but with the bad CB corp we have, im very pleased they only hae to meet Orton, (as of now)
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Orton isn’t a long-term solution, he is a short-term stop-gap. Maybe they take that Freeman kid at #18, and let him “develop” for a year.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Maybe we get lucky an he falls to us with our 2nd pick.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:04 pm
DMunoz the fake is stupid, and you can’t hide that. I already figured out he’s a fake. I’m sure everybody else will as well. Because we’re talking football here now.
We might have to bring up the “space” from time to time with new people………
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:04 pm
I’m out. Any postings from now on are the troll. Goodbye troll. Have fun pretending to be me.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:05 pm
# Dakota Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:03 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:56 pm
# RaiderMight Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Dakota,
If SF passes on Sanchez, Denver will pick him up. They could also trade with Green Bay to move up. It will be interesting to see Chris Simms, Kyle Orton and some rookie fight it out for the starter job.
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If Detroit takes a QB at 1 Sanchez doesnt make it past 4 with Seattle.
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Doubt it, Seattle loves Stafford, not Sanchez…is this another overvaluing of a USC player by a USC homer?
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It was on PFT.com that they immediately scheduled him for a personal workout after his pro day yesterday. And no I am not a USC homer as you say.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:05 pm
i hope denver gets sanchez he is gonna bust
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Goodbye to you too old man Kell. Don’t crap your pants.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:07 pm
i have an honest question how is morrison not a real mlb when he had 135 tackles last year i think that means somebody else wasnt doing their job
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Can’t wait for the first time Cun-tler has a tantrum in Chi-town, Urlacher will take his head off..
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:07 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:39 pm
The Bronco’s now have a choice:
Patrick Ramsey or Kyle Orton at QB…
lmao”
Der, I should have said Chris Simms or Kyle Orton. Ramsey is a free agent.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:07 pm
# 15yearsold15yearfan Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:05 pm
i hope denver gets sanchez he is gonna bust
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What do you base that on? Not arguing just would like to know, cause honestly nobody can predict a bust or not accurately but you have said it repeatedly about him.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:08 pm
How the hell did they get all those picks AND a starting QB? They fleeced da Bears. Was kind of hoping they would have to go with a rookie or Sims, Orton can play. Its not as big a drop off as first thought.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Man they went from cutler to maybe cassel to cutler to kyle orton they have to be drafting a qb.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:10 pm
# 15yearsold15yearfan Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:07 pm
i have an honest question how is morrison not a real mlb when he had 135 tackles last year i think that means somebody else wasnt doing their job
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I agree its too soon to call Morrison a weak run defender when he has not had real DT’s in front of him to allow him to plug gaps instead having to try and fight off guards.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:10 pm
15 year fan never even watched Sanchez. Went over this yesterday and he knows nothing about him.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Bye bye troll, no need to worry about my pants, ok?
Fly along now…. fly, fly, fly
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Does Bush/DMac remind anyone of Wheatley/Kaufman or Wheatley/Garner?
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:13 pm
No Wheatley was good and actually PLAYED. Bush isnt and doesnt/wont.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
DMunoz26
1. he couldnt beat out john david booty
2. he wasnt a great qb with pro level talent around him
3. the only reason he is considered a 1st rd pick is because the qbs in this class arent that good
4. the only reasons he came out early is because he knew the usc d is gonna be worse next year and he would be exposed and with the qbs coming out next year he would be pushed into the later rounds
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Dude… I don’t think they fleeced the Bears at all. The Bears get a Pro Bowl quarterback right away, and their defense is already playoff caliber. The Bears have had no success at all developing or drafting QBs, and it’s always been their weak link.
They wouldn’t have gotten a Pro Bowl QB with their #1 this year, and most likely not next year either. Most people agree that it’s the most important position on the field, so their aquiring Cutler this way is pretty much the only chance they have of getting an elite player at that position that can step in right away.
The Vikings brass must be throwing up right now.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Diesel???
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
SUP NATION/??? Did the donkeys trad whats his face yet??
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
I’d bet Raider Dell’s house that Seattle would never draft Sanchez at #4…maybe in the second round though!
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Here’s hoping the Bears do well this year so that 1st rounder next year is in the mid 20’s.
Don’t think the trade was that one-sided. You can never get fair value for a top-level player (let’s face it Cutler is a legitimate Pro-Bowler). Picks are only that “picks”, they could blow them and than the Broncos could be looking for a QB the next 10 years.
Or the Bears and Donks could go 3-13 next year and the Donks will have two top-5 picks next year.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:16 pm
chorus??
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:16 pm
I wonder if we are going to resign grant irons! ?
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Good points on the “fleeced” comment. How about it was a good trade for both.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Bush has way better hands than wheatley and kaufman had terrible hands, dmac dosen’t quite have garners shakes but is a what about 4 inches taller and 20 lbs + on garner.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Yiiiiipiiiii – yiiiiipiiiii yiiiiipiiaai
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:17 pm
15yearsold15yearfan Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:07 pm
i have an honest question how is morrison not a real mlb when he had 135 tackles last year i think that means somebody else wasnt doing their job
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Just read below and compare to the current Oakland situation
Feb. 21, 2006: General manager Ozzie Newsome acknowledges Lewis asked to be traded before the 2005 season but added Lewis hasn’t made any such request recently. It was during that season that Lewis appeared less vocal with teammates and made a habit of sitting alone on the bench during games. According to The San Diego Union-Tribune, Lewis pitched his skills to some Chargers team members at the Pro Bowl.
April 20, 2006: Lewis vents his frustration about not having space-eating defensive tackles in front of him that would allow him to roam free to make tackles. “The issue is: Are you going to let me do what I do?” he asked. “And if not, let me go.” Nine days later, the Ravens draft 340-pound defensive tackle Haloti Ngata
http://www.courant.com/bal-ray-lewis-timeline-304,1,5168106.story
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:17 pm
# Dude Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:13 pm
No Wheatley was good and actually PLAYED. Bush isnt and doesnt/wont.
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Bush ran for 177 yards in the last game of the season and averaged 4.4 ypc for the whole season (the same as DMac, Fargas was at 3.9) and scored 3 TD’s (2 more than Fargas, 1 less than DMac) despite playing less than either
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:18 pm
stickers????
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
DMunoz26 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Does Bush/DMac remind anyone of Wheatley/Kaufman or Wheatley/Garner?
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I think the Wheatley/Garner is more fair, D-Mac reminds me a lot of Charlie, great receiver and great in the open-field, a little sporadic between the tackles.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Mama stetson???
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Raji was never the pick at 7.
Davis’s D is a cover D and a 4-3 to boot.
I’m sure Raji could play in a 4-3, but he’s more likely to be slated a NT for a 3-4.
Suspended in college for a year, this “rumor” could have teams questioning him in the top 10, but have no illusions, if a teamlike Dallas will take Pac man, someone will take Raji, positive or no…
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
registration didnt help a freaking thing :/
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
34 tds and 10 picks
12-1 win/loss
Rose Bowl win and passing records.
Yeah, he was HORRIBLE!!!
15 year old, you know nothing about Sanchez, never even watched him, shut your hole.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:20 pm
SnB its pretty much the same so why do people say morrison isnt a real mlb is ray lewis not a real mlb with no dt
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:20 pm
whats wrong with LMN????
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Bears also signed Orlando Pace today..
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:20 pm
# Dakota Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
I’d bet Raider Dell’s house that Seattle would never draft Sanchez at #4…maybe in the second round though!
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Hasselbeck is 33 why wouldn’t they take Sanchez to groom under him for a couple years? New head coach, probably wants his own QB.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:21 pm
408…
Im trying to figure out what word in my post is banned.. :/
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Dude… It’s potentially a good trade for both, but only if Denver’s picks pan out for them. Both of the guys they take have to be solid starters, and at least one of them has to be very good, for that to be an even trade. In my opinion, anyway.
I just think that trading (or trying to trade) a Pro Bowl quarterback is insane. The’re too hard to find, and way too valuable to be messing around with like that. I really think Denver’s going to regret it.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Yeah, Bush is just MONEY!! Thats why he couldnt get his ass off the bench for what 6 games??
Bush= 3rd string or traded
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Seahwks are NOT taking a QB. They think Seneca is the next guy in line. Seahawks=OL
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
trading cutler was insane, but better them than us
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
# Dude Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Yeah, Bush is just MONEY!! Thats why he couldnt get his ass off the bench for what 6 games??
Bush= 3rd string or traded
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It took Gannon how many years to get off the bench? Or how about Priest Holmes? Come on guy that is a weak argument, he looked good in every game he played. You don’t average 4.4 ypc and suck, that’s not 1 game that’s the season.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:26 pm
The Bears picked up the Pace today! LMAO I bet DMunoz26 couldn’t come up with a line that witty.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:26 pm
vegas raider Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Here’s hoping the Bears do well this year so that 1st rounder next year is in the mid 20’s.
Don’t think the trade was that one-sided. You can never get fair value for a top-level player (let’s face it Cutler is a legitimate Pro-Bowler). Picks are only that “picks”, they could blow them and than the Broncos could be looking for a QB the next 10 years.
Or the Bears and Donks could go 3-13 next year and the Donks will have two top-5 picks next year.
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Bears are not that far removed fromthe super bowl and could get the best pass protector in the 2008 NFL draft 14th overall pick Chris Williams outa Vandy…hm, Vandy…didn’t someone else go there?
Williams had back issues and was a wash his rookie year, but couldbe back online in 09′.
He was the Eugene Monroe of that draft and could still have a solid career at left tackle.
The Bears in all likely hood do not have a #1 pick inthis years draft and who knows, maybe not even a 2, so it’ll be interesting to see what they do and to see what Denver does with a 12 and an 18 in the 1st round…
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:26 pm
# Dude Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Yeah, Bush is just MONEY!! Thats why he couldnt get his ass off the bench for what 6 games??
Bush= 3rd string or traded
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No because, Cable is a freaking idiot, even McFAdden had to ell at him to put him in there, had Bush started from game 1 he had over 1K…
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Somebody was asking earlier,
In Russell’s last 3 games his passer rating:
WK 15 vs Pats, 85.7
WK 16 vs Hous, 128.1
WK 17 vs TB, 98.9
Avg 104.2333333333333333.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Rey Malaluuga to be on:
am570radio.com
look for the “listen live” link at the top
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Bears also signed Orlando Pace…wow!
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:27 pm
DMunoz26
1. he couldnt beat out john david booty
2. he wasnt a great qb with pro level talent around him
3. the only reason he is considered a 1st rd pick is because the qbs in this class arent that good
4. the only reasons he came out early is because he knew the usc d is gonna be worse next year and he would be exposed and with the qbs coming out next year he would be pushed into the later rounds
1. He couldn’t beat out Booty as a FRESHMAN, Pete Carrol doesn’t start Freshmen. Booty Graduated and had 2 years in the system. Booty got benched his Junior year for Matt. Nice try.
2. Did you actually see him play football? Doesn’t sound like it.
3. He had 16 starts in a year and a half. Yet the only Qb “rated” higher is a multiple year starter in a pass first offense.
4. He was going to be the 1st QB taken next year. Tebow wouldn’t be, Sam Bradford is the only Qb that could possibly push his “stock” down if he waited until next year.
Just because 3 starting LB’s are leaving USC doesn’t mean that the Defense is going to suck. There are others waiting to step up. The Defense didn’t fall off after Ellis and Rivers left last year.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Boy 33 years old is ancient for an all pro QB…wait, not it isn’t!!! Why waste the #4 pick to groom a QB (and not the best QB in the draft by the way) that you won’t need for 4-5 years?
Again, Sanchez will not go to Seattle and Rey ain’t coming to Oakland. One of us will be eating a lot of schit on draft day Munoz…better get your mouthwash ready.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Bush wont be here in 09 anyways, so it wont really matter. His pissn and moaning about playing FB put him squarely in Cable’s doghouse.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Raji was never the pick at 7.
Davis’s D is a cover D and a 4-3 to boot.
I’m sure Raji could play in a 4-3, but he’s more likely to be slated a NT for a 3-4.
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Nnamdi,
Raji was a candidate and still might be. He played in a 4-3 defense at B.C. But all of that is meaningless, taking drugs with all that is at stake in very bad judgement and a HUGE risk as a 1st or 2nd round pick.
But let’s not mistake the Raider defense. There really is no defense here. Its all about flashy highlight reel plays and speed. The Raiders draft flashy speedy players on the DEs, LBs and secondary and then ask them to play a physical man 2 man style. Then they get blown off the ball and blown out of the stadium.
The Raiders don’t like addressing the D-Line because the D-Line is boring. There is no philosophy except having the two speed rushers beat their man and get to the QB or having Nnamdi and C.J physically lockdown their guy. THat’s the defense.
The run defense in Oakland is an afterthought. That’s why the D-Line roster is littered with 2nd day draft picks and undrafted free agents.
That’s fine if the Raiders develop into a top 5 offense!
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Seneca Wallace had a QB rating of 87.0 in 10 games with only 11 TD’s, that is not real impressive considering he is in his 6th season
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Bears making moves…Pace makes sense since they really don’t know what Williams is going to be like never having played in the NFL.
Give him a year to get up to speed, learn from an over the hill, but great pass protector in Pace and get back into NFL shape.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:30 pm
# Dude Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
34 tds and 10 picks
12-1 win/loss
Rose Bowl win and passing records.
Yeah, he was HORRIBLE!!!
15 year old, you know nothing about Sanchez, never even watched him, shut your hole.
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with pro level talent around him and can you explain why he couldnt beat out john david booty
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:30 pm
# Dude Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Bush wont be here in 09 anyways, so it wont really matter. His pissn and moaning about playing FB put him squarely in Cable’s doghouse.
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That’s a joke kid, he played the last game of the season and dominated AFTER the whole FB thing happened.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Dude Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Bush wont be here in 09 anyways, so it wont really matter. His pissn and moaning about playing FB put him squarely in Cable’s doghouse.
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Plus the Raiders don’t respect physical football. Its about finesse and speed. Yet the scheme is set up to be physical…..Doesn’t make sense
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:31 pm
My Dad is a Bears fan…he is happy right now. He is 67 and doesn’t give a fuk about the future picks, lol.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:34 pm
call me crazy, But I think the cutler trade makes the hated broncos much better this year. Kyle orton can manage an offense and they now also have two 1st round picks(theres still lots of talent left in Late 1st round)they have whole new defense.I see them challenging raiders & chargers for the afc west title.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:34 pm
SnB u couldnt b more right about the d Hopefully that changes though, well see where the draft takes us
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Dude Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Bush wont be here in 09 anyways, so it wont really matter. His pissn and moaning about playing FB put him squarely in Cable’s doghouse.
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Bush’s ball security and poor pass protection is why he didn’t get as much play.
With NO fullbacks to chip DEs and blitzing LBs and piss poor play at the Tackle positions, Fargas saw more time on field than he should have.
Plus they gave him a shiny new contract and felt they needed to reward him for his hard work.
Bush should see ample playing time next year. No WAY they trade him. He’s shown potential to be a 1st round caliber back for a 4th round pick.
He’s an awesome taletn who’s deceptively fast, has great field vision, reads blocks well, makes people miss, catches very well, passes well. slips big hits and almost always falls forward for yards. Rarely tackled for a loss.
Get ready. This guys the shizz…
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Booty was good at SC for one thing. He also had been in the SC system for 4 years. Thats how they do it at SC, you back up for 2 then play for 2. Thats why theyre so good EVERY year. NOBODY would have beaten Booty out. You again are showing how little you know of the subject. What pro level talent are you refering to by the way?
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Now who are the Bears going to sign? Marvin Harrison and Tory Holt?
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
15yearsold15yearfan Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:20 pm
SnB its pretty much the same so why do people say morrison isnt a real mlb is ray lewis not a real mlb with no dt
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Because Morrison doesn’t make the highlight reel hits because he is busy wrestling with 345lb guards on running plays because the great DTs are single blocked. The Raiders also don’t blitz much so Morrison doesn’t show there either.
The Ray Lewis quote demonstrates how important the DTs are to the mix. DTs are underrated here in Oakland. Ray Lewis was saying basically that he was not effective without someone keeping him clean from wrestling 345lb guards and tackles.
Those people want Rey Maualuaga because they see highlight reel hits on College Saturdays. They think that will translate to Oakland. But it won’t with Terdell Sands and Gerard Warren up front.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
175. LOL!~
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
# Dude Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Bush wont be here in 09 anyways, so it wont really matter. His pissn and moaning about playing FB put him squarely in Cable’s doghouse.
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Laffs =)
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Thanks, KoolKell. I thought his passer rating improved quite a bit after Cable took over, just wasn’t sure how much.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Dakota
Matt Hassel-brokenback is on his last leg. He missed most of last season with a blown out disc in his back that was causing leg numbness. I had the same thing after a car wreck and had to have a titanium plate and screws put in my spine to relieve pressure on the nerves. His back is jacked up and he will not make it through a full season again.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:41 pm
or DT’s have been horrible and not just against the run, they fail to give a push up the middle on pass plays and only need to be single blocked wich makes it hard for our DE’s
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:41 pm
TO should have waited to see what would happen on the market. Could have landed in Chicago. That would’ve been good drama TV. Talented whiney receiver and talented whiney QB. Could have made a good combo nonetheless. Cutler loves throwing to one target as evident with Brandon Marshall, so him and TO would have fell in love with each other.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
The Bears got a steal in this draft. Its not even close. Who in this year or next year’s draft is going to equal a franchise QB in his mid 20’s?
A 3rd round pick? After seeing what the Raiders do with those picks, they are hardly worth anything.
An absolute steal for Chicago. With Orlando Pace, Matt Forte, the Tight End and their defense, they are now a playoff contender and a super bowl darkhorse….
Denver….LOL,,LOL….It could take another 15 years before they find a franchise QB..LOL
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
SnB thanks for the explanation i was wondering how anybody could think a guy with 135 tackles could not be good at his position and hes doing it with no help
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Well, well, it looks like our only competition just got much worse. The AFC West is going to be a cake-walk this year. I expect at least 13 wins.
1. Chargers 14-2
2. Broncos 7-9
3. Raiders 6-10 (you guys will finally reach six wins, good for you)
4. Chiefs 4-12
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
951,
Is that all? Rub a little dirt on it and he will be fine!
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
# Dude Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Booty was good at SC for one thing. He also had been in the SC system for 4 years. Thats how they do it at SC, you back up for 2 then play for 2. Thats why theyre so good EVERY year. NOBODY would have beaten Booty out. You again are showing how little you know of the subject. What pro level talent are you refering to by the way?
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it doesnt matter how long youve been in a system if youre better you start if booty was a 3rd rd pick what makes sanchez any better
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
The registration has made a difference. No doubt the trolls, especially you know who, are figuring out ways to register multiple names. What they’re going to do is make disposable names under new emails at yahoo, and troll under those names till they get banned, then switch to another. That’s fine. Bottom line is, they can no longer clone names. That’s the beauty of it, and that was the biggest weapon these losers had. It’s a new day at this blog, that’s for sure.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
bye bye cutler don’t let the door hit your diabetes down syndrome looking face on the way out
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Orton may not be a franchise QB, but he is a good player. You can win with him. With the WRs Denver has he will probably be better yet.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
# Charged Up Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Well, well, it looks like our only competition just got much worse. The AFC West is going to be a cake-walk this year. I expect at least 13 wins.
1. Chargers 14-2
2. Broncos 7-9
3. Raiders 6-10 (you guys will finally reach six wins, good for you)
4. Chiefs 4-12
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LMFAO!!!!! 14-2??? You really should consider doing some kind of comedy as a career.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Dude Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Booty was good at SC for one thing. He also had been in the SC system for 4 years. Thats how they do it at SC, you back up for 2 then play for 2. Thats why theyre so good EVERY year. NOBODY would have beaten Booty out. You again are showing how little you know of the subject. What pro level talent are you refering to by the way?
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D Jarret, Leinart, Khalil, Steve Smith, Reggie Bush, Mike Patterson, Lofa Tatupu, Sedrick Ellis, Keith Rivers, Sam Baker, Lawrence Jackson, Terrell Thomas, Fred Jackson…ect…
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
The registration has made a difference. No doubt the trolls, especially you know who, are figuring out ways to register multiple names. What they’re going to do is make disposable names under new emails at yahoo, and troll under those names till they get banned, then switch to another. That’s fine. Bottom line is, they can no longer clone names. That’s the beauty of it, and that was the biggest weapon these losers had. It’s a new day at this blog, that’s for sure.
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They can try but I am pretty sure it’s an IP address based ban, so if they get banned it’s their IP address that is banned.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
193. Not if they ban their IP address…then they’ll have to have another line to get on again.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Hell, I’ll curb all that talk about wanting an OT. I want Raji now. The Defense needs more talent with sketchy backgrounds. Morrison, Howard, and Nnamdi are my personal favs, but those guys are like Saints, and it’s good to have a Haynesworth like ’step on your face with cleats’ because I can type of mentality in the huddle. We’re the Raiders for pete’s sake. Not the graceful Rams. We need some talented jerks who all we need to do is say ‘kill the opposition’, and they get the job done. It’s not like DT is the most cerebral position.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
raidersince87 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:41 pm
or DT’s have been horrible and not just against the run, they fail to give a push up the middle on pass plays and only need to be single blocked wich makes it hard for our DE’s
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Which makes the 3rd down defense just terrible. No run defense and no collapsing of the pocket. That’s what happens when you have backup players as starters
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:47 pm
His tackles are 5 yards past the LOS. He takes bad angles and needs help more times than not to bring down power backs, wiffed badly aginst sproles and turner, etc. Morrison is NOT a true MLB. He is better suited to play SLB so he can play with TE’s in pass coverage. He is listed at 6′2 240. A true MLB should be 260ish.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:48 pm
DMunoz26, aren’t you the guy who was threatening lawsuits? Maybe you should be the comedian because that was freaking hilarious.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Man you are a clown. LOL!! Booty was a good college QB with an arm thats too weak for the NFL. Yeah and it doesnt matter how long your in a system. LOL. Dude, stop. You have no CLUE. You never watched Sanchez, you dont know any of the guys he played with, you know NOTHING. You are talking out your ass.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:48 pm
chargers= need saftey help,MLB help, DE help, LT on the downside, lost Goff, 14-2! yeah rite
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:48 pm
thank you nnamdi this “dude” doesnt understand
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:49 pm
181. Not entirely correct.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:49 pm
It really doesn’t matter what the Bronco’s do. If JaMarcus, Bush, MacFadden do their thing, it won’t matter.
Mack, leading the o-line.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Charged Up… you may not be aware of it, but the Chargers got worse this offseason, too. Keeping Norv Turner as head coach is almost as bad as trading away a Pro Bowl quarterback.
You want proof?
14-2 turns into…
12-4 turns into…
8-8
I won’t even bother to post his record as head coach of the Raiders and Redskins. Have fun with that 14-2 fantasy. You saw it once and fired the coach. You won’t see it again.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
i hear you SnB, we cant consistently get off the field on 3rd down which wears down the d by the 4th quarter
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Mark Sanchez didnt play with ANY of those guys. Nice try though.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Raider Nation 951 why are all of his tackles 5 yds past the los because the dline didnt stop them
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Raider Nation 951 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:47 pm
His tackles are 5 yards past the LOS. He takes bad angles and needs help more times than not to bring down power backs, wiffed badly aginst sproles and turner, etc. Morrison is NOT a true MLB. He is better suited to play SLB so he can play with TE’s in pass coverage. He is listed at 6′2 240. A true MLB should be 260ish.
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THANK YOU!!!!
Been preachin’ that for a while now…
I think he’d be great strong side. Howards locked down weak side duties.
We may take a 2 down MLB, but no way with the 7th overall….
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
lol dakota.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Munoz, I doubt they’re going to ban IP addresses right away. Plus, there’s ways of hiding your IP. These clowns are so dedicated, and I’m referring to one in particular, that they’ll use the dial up hours that come with their high speed service just to mask their IP and register multiple names. Dial up IP’s change with each log on, so that’s one avenue they have. You’ll never stop these guys. They’re dedicated to their cause. They’ve also registered names of other people before those people had the chance to do it themselves. That’s why I’m “The Real MaddenRaider”, instead of MaddenRaider. There’s opinions and views that they want to drown out in here, and they’ll try and do it one way or another. The bottom line is, it’s now 20 times harder for them. The real benefit of this registration system is that nobody can clone names anymore. That’s what really made this place ugly. They would post racist stuff under other peoples screen names, etc.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
but if sanchez is better than booty why didnt he start
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:53 pm
since87….
Don’t forget, the Norval factor……
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:53 pm
edward tech,
remember i told you i like combine time 40`s over prodays.look at usc proday,mathews,cushing and maualuga al improved way to much.that`s called a fast track not to mention hand timed which is not accurate.electronic times are.my older brother ran track in europe in the early 90`s.always had slower times over their in the 100m and 200m.when i asked him why his times where faster here than over their.he would always point to the electronic times as the reason.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Prediction: Mike Holmgren will coach the San Diego Chargers in 2010.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:53 pm
#193
Isn’t that pathetic? Yikes.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Mark Sanchez! viva la raza! no but seriously its good to see a Mexican American like sanchez have this kind of success so far. I wish him luck in the nfl and hope he does plays well.
Draft Andre “The Giant” Smith… he doesn’t use drugs
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Draft Rey at 7. Period.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:55 pm
norv turner was only a good O-coordinator(dallas), horrible head coach, believe us we know, now u charger fans know
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:55 pm
BlackDeath… maybe I missed something, but I don’t recall talking about pro day 40 times. I thought we were discussing the times Maclin and JLH ran at their respective combine workuts.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:56 pm
15yearsold15yearfan Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Raider Nation 951 why are all of his tackles 5 yds past the los because the dline didnt stop them
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Not neccessarily. Morrison, as stated, takes bad angels, makes bad audibles, can’t stack and shed, is weak at the POA and gets dragged for positive yards alot.
Our DT’s plug their gaps and its the MLB’s job to read and fill.
Too often Morrison’s out of place, doesn’t mind his gap responsibilites and over reacts.
He’s a great LB in my opinion, just ill suited for the MLB.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Raider Nation 951 why are all of morrisons tackles 5 yds past the los because the dline didnt stop them
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Thats your agrument? LOL! Lets try this again… Booty was a good college QB, who had been in SCs system for 2 years before Sanchez even got to there. It was his job to lose and he didnt. Sanchez had to bide his time and when it was his time he lit it up. Of course you wouldnt know because you never ACTUALLY watched the kid play. Booty doesnt have the NFL measureables, Sanchez does. Simple as that.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:57 pm
DT are disruptors. Yes Sands and Warren are less than quality backup stuck in the starting position, but when you MLB is so far out of position that he is constantly CHASING insted of HITTING, he is not playing the position the way it needs to be played. Kirk gets chipped and is out of position to make the play, then has to catch up DOWN FIELD. When every 1st and 2nd down run goes for 4-5 yards, your MLB isn’t getting his job done.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:57 pm
NoLuv4Hoes Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Mark Sanchez! viva la raza! no but seriously its good to see a Mexican American like sanchez have this kind of success so far. I wish him luck in the nfl and hope he does plays well.
Draft Andre “The Giant” Smith… he doesn’t use drugs
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Unless you consider cheeseburgers a drug…
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:57 pm
dude think what u want i have to go any way but we’ll see how he does in a few years
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Hello, my name is Edward and I’m addicted to cheeseburgers.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Norv Turner just works for all of the wrong people. Snyder, Davis (the worst of all), and now the guy at SD, forget his name. AJ something. He’s a tyrant, too. If Norv were ever just given the keys, who knows what he could do? He’s never had a chance. Worked for meddlesome owners and/or gm’s, all throughout his career. He was a solid coordinator in Dallas, and gets nothing but solid endorsements from hall of famers that played under him there.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:58 pm
So RMR
Are they hired by somebody, or just fascists?
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Raiders win the Buffalo game if Morison doesnt absolutely whiff on Lynch in the backfield on a swing pass.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Nnamdi that was funny
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Raider Nation 951 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:47 pm
His tackles are 5 yards past the LOS. He takes bad angles and needs help more times than not to bring down power backs, wiffed badly aginst sproles and turner, etc. Morrison is NOT a true MLB. He is better suited to play SLB so he can play with TE’s in pass coverage. He is listed at 6′2 240. A true MLB should be 260ish.
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His tackles are 5 yds past the LOS because he’s shedding guards and tackles and the running back breaks through the 1st level untouched. He has 135 tackles. He is not a timid guy that’s unwilling to put his hat on someone.
At the end of the 2007 season, this year was supposed to be a potential pro-bowl year for him and Thomas Howard. Of course, with Sands, Warren, Joseph and Wakefield in the front…that’s not going to happen.
Feb. 21, 2006: General manager Ozzie Newsome acknowledges Lewis asked to be traded before the 2005 season but added Lewis hasn’t made any such request recently. It was during that season that Lewis appeared less vocal with teammates and made a habit of sitting alone on the bench during games. According to The San Diego Union-Tribune, Lewis pitched his skills to some Chargers team members at the Pro Bowl.
April 20, 2006: Lewis vents his frustration about not having space-eating defensive tackles in front of him that would allow him to roam free to make tackles. “The issue is: Are you going to let me do what I do?” he asked. “And if not, let me go.” Nine days later, the Ravens draft 340-pound defensive tackle Haloti Ngata
http://www.courant.com/bal-ray-lewis-timeline-304,1,5168106.story
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Name 1 other OFFENSIVE player coming out of USC in this years draft………..Thats right 1 WR that MAY get drafted. Mark didn’t have the talent around him that Matt and JDB had, yet he still got the job done.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Orton isn’t that bad as a QB. He just didn’t have anybody to throw to in Chicago and now he does. Cutler may find out how important it was to have guys like Marshall and Royal on the team. Orton makes less mistakes and will have more talent to throw to. In a sick way, this makes the Broncos more efficient but only time will tell. The question is…will McDaniels give Orton a shot this year and does he have his eyes set on a QB in next years draft? Also…Cassell still becomes an unrestricted Free Agent next season so maybe McDaniels is counting on that?
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Kell, I don’t understand your question.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:00 pm
I dont think, I know. Because I actually WATCHED him play.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:01 pm
#7 crabtree , 2nd Brace
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:04 pm
The Chiefs would probably franchise Cassel next season if he plays well. If that happens, the Chiefs could use Cassel as bait to the Broncos to try and receive their 2 1st round picks next season. Anything is possible.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:05 pm
An owner/GM with a 24-72 record in the past 6 years, a head coach who’s nothing more than an interim, who was previously Kiffin’s offensive line coach, and who has no system of his own.
That’s the hand we’re dealt, folks. We’re basically banking on a miracle. This is the worst organizational set up we’ve had in franchise history…and we weren’t exactly good beforehand. Crazier things have happened, I guess…
See you guys later tonight.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm
By youre standards of booty beating out sanchez dosent fly ,is drew henson a better qb than tom brady cause he beat him out as freshman.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Look in this clip that JHill had us watching earlier on a run play. The RG goes unabated to Morrison while Sands is easily handled by the Center. Richardson does a bad job holding the point as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDht-H0Hk4k
Feb. 21, 2006: General manager Ozzie Newsome acknowledges Lewis asked to be traded before the 2005 season but added Lewis hasn’t made any such request recently. It was during that season that Lewis appeared less vocal with teammates and made a habit of sitting alone on the bench during games. According to The San Diego Union-Tribune, Lewis pitched his skills to some Chargers team members at the Pro Bowl.
April 20, 2006: Lewis vents his frustration about not having space-eating defensive tackles in front of him that would allow him to roam free to make tackles. “The issue is: Are you going to let me do what I do?” he asked. “And if not, let me go.” Nine days later, the Ravens draft 340-pound defensive tackle Haloti Ngata
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Why do they want certain opinions & views drowned out, are they hired, or just people who can’t tolerate different views, ie fascists? I understand losers, but what drives that pathology?
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm
S&B
Enough with the Ravens fluff. Last time I checked, Ravens used a 3-4 defense not a 4-3, just a little bit of difference there now isn’t it. So yes, he LIKED having BIG, FAT, DT’s and NT in front of him that werent pushed around by 5 offensive linemen. So exactly what is your point? Morrison IS NOT RAY LEWIS. I wish he was, then our Run D wouldn’t be 31st.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Check out my new artwork. I am going to submit this to be the cover for next years Super Bowl DVD:
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:07 pm
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
193. Not if they ban their IP address…then they’ll have to have another line to get on again.
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on a daily basis i have 64 ip addresses on my PC… so IP isnt the solution, but as MR is saying, the good thing about this nobody can clone names… we know who we are talking to…
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Sorry, technical difficulties.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
if the raiders draft rey maualuga this will be the end result every sunday.if oregon state can beat usc o-line and make rey look like this just think what the chargers would do.you need a d-line.for the record rey had 12 tackles this game.oregon state rb ran for 180 yards.when this happens to kirk morrison most raiders fan blame him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38nQq2U5Mvg&feature=PlayList&p=A72D5BA85A727112&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=7
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
i jus watched the clip, our DT’s were manhandled and kirk had to deal with an o-lineman right on him
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Later
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Carted up…
what artwork??? are you drunk, or are you just not that IT-savvy ??
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
chargers rule
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Alright, I figured it out La Milicia Negra. Click on my name to see my new artwork.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
That looks like something a child with brain damage might paint. Grats
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Kirk isn’t big enough to keep from getting “chipped”. If he was bigger he could be a servicable MLB. 240 is too small. That goes back to Al’s speed fettish again.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
i hope we draft a DT with one of our first two picks
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:13 pm
RMR
In other words “dedicated to their cause” what’s that? for what? They must be paid to do that 24/7, no?
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:14 pm
I wouldn’t be upset with Brace. I would rather have him than Raji.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Chokers rule the AFC West cellar.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Hey Kell, check out my artwork. Just click on my name.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
#202 Raider Nation 951 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:47 pm
His tackles are 5 yards past the LOS. He takes bad angles and needs help more times than not to bring down power backs, wiffed badly aginst sproles and turner, etc. Morrison is NOT a true MLB. He is better suited to play SLB so he can play with TE’s in pass coverage. He is listed at 6′2 240. A true MLB should be 260ish.
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So, what’s more important? Adding 15 pounds to our MLB, or getting the best player we can out of the #7 pick?
Maualuga is not a top-15 talent, let alone a top 7 talent. And MLB is far from being the only position where our current starter is not as good as some of the guys who will be in the draft. Maualuga is a good player made to look great by playing in a high-profile team with excellent defensive teammates. Our roster is weak. We can’t afford to reach on a guy like that. There are plenty of superior players at positions of greater impact and equal or greater need to be had at the #7 pick.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Man…Taylor Mays looks gigantic out there. Is he really that big of a safety?
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:17 pm
This is probably the scariest picture I have ever seen:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/whizchickenonabun/1453252099/
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Think the Chargers will ever win a superbowl?…hard to believe there are still nfl teams that have yet to win at least one,..sucks to be a charger fan thats for sure.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
i feel u 951, besides this test he faild, didnt he have to sit a season because of his grades, the dudes turning out to be a head case
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
24
MAYS IS A BEAST! If you saw the USC v UCLA game last year he knocked 3 rb’s out of the game with huge hits. One of the kids flipped in the air twisting. I thought he killed the kid.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Damn…Taylor Mays is 6′3 230lbs.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Here’s another clip from the Bills game. Pause this 4th down play at 57 seconds and you will see Morrison wrestling a guard while the D-Line gets managed.
The next play after that shows Marshawn going right up the gut.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTkhq5eqtho
I post the Ray Lewis quote repeatedly to prove a point. DTs make the linebacker…not the other way around. If the best Linebacker in the game struggles with no DT, what can we expect from Morrison with a situation that was far worse than what Ray was complaining about.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Carted Up…
Bwahahaha, LOL, did you steel that from some 3 year old kid??
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
It’s RAJI time!! (Formerly known as 4:20 time)
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Scariest picture the charger fans know if is the picture of their superbowl trophy case,..those cob webbs look creepy.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Its 4:20…Raji Time.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Raider Nation 951 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:14 pm
I wouldn’t be upset with Brace. I would rather have him than Raji.
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I am no longer on the Raji at #7 bandwagon. A failed drug test that late in the process is unacceptable. But Raji getting drafted does not change the deplorable situation on the D-Line.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
909 – Bah! haha.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
The Oregon RB was 5′6 180 and ran a 4.2 40. I think its understandable that he had 180 yards aginst a beat up USC defense.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
AJ Smith is a gift to the Raiders,..hes been put in SD to make sure they never win a superbowl,…God bless AJ Smith.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Raji is Darrell Russell Round 2
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
24 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Damn…Taylor Mays is 6′3 230lbs.
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Yeah, but he would bust here in Oakland. Raiders need to figure out how to coach up a safety and design schemes that can use their talents.
Until the Raiders figure that out, given all of the busts, they should not invest much in that position.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
24… I think the real reason Al is letting Cable have so much say in free agency and the draft this year is because he’s been busy plotting ways to get Taylor Mays in a Radier uniform next year and doesn’t want to be interrupted
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
S&B,
the bigger problem with the play is.sands is a run stuffer who gets no respect from the offense.that`s why their is no double team and the guard goes right for morrison.when you play the 4-3 under the nt must command the center and guard block him.jay richard is a six round pick.scott and burgess are under size de.warren is not a true nt.he is a ut playing nose.kelly is a undrafted free agant playing ut.where are the raiders high draft picks on the d-line.there is none.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
I’m just sad that Philip Rivers can’t have his b!tch That was really distracting them while we snuck from behind to take the division.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
i saw the bills youtube, again a lineman on morrison
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Did any of you know that Maualugas mother and some of his family live in Eureka?
He said that last night when interviewed at the USC Pro Day thats where he will be during draft day.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Edward Teach – Haha. No doubt…and YOU KNOW Mays went back to USC this year because he knew he was getting drafted by the Raiders at #7. He basically said, No Thanks!
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Hmmm…I was trying to say Rivers and Cutler’s bitch fights but thats what I meant.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Anyone want to buy an autographed Ryan Leaf jersey? Even this makes me laugh:
http://www.nflshop.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2460599
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
our secondary is always exposed because of or lack of a pass rush and a push up the middle
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:27 pm
IF Al were to draft Rey (I doubt that would happen) it would allow Kirk to move to SLB (another hole on the roster) and Rey could fill the MLB slot esentially filling 2 holes with one pick. That has to be considered when your looking at the draft. The D line is GARBAGE. But fixing that and trying to address the MLB slot in a later round doesn’t make sense if your picking someone @ 7 just for “value”. That isn’t a smart way to draft IMO.
Rey @ 7 Brace @ 40 or move up to get him. Both spots are filled and the D is much improved. Look at the track record of LB’s coming out of USC……Tatupu(sp), McGinist (sp), Seau, palomaleau (sp), etc.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
one more thing the 4-3 under is a strong run defense if you have the players.under ryan the raiders played a college 4-3 under.i think marshall plays a pro 4-3 under.with no real base de this will help the outside runs.but it`s just a start.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
I am so pizzed off about NFL Network not being on after May 1st of course retarded Comcast what the hell is wrong with them.
I don’t like any other sports so NFL network and this blog keep me going during the off season.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:29 pm
951 i wouldnt be mad at that, but it still doesnt solve our pass rush
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Talk to you guys later. I’m so stoked about the Cutler trade, I’m going go get drunk and hook up with some hot chicks.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:31 pm
dont get hurt blowing them up charger geek
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:33 pm
RS87
That is an easy fix. ROTATION. Stop leaving Burgess out on run plays and sub him in keeping him fresh. Richardson could be used the same way. Look for another DE in the 3rd or 4th. The Raiders have 5 de’s on the roster currently, and Kelly can slide out to end if needed.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Blow up dolls may be your experience Raiderssince87, but I get the real thing. Besides, if I had to resort to fake girls, I would buy one of those Real Dolls for a few grand.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Carted Up…
yeah you and your Bald head will score some “hot” “girls”…. LOL dream on you 45 year old thinking he is a highschool kid LOL
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:34 pm
good point 951
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:35 pm
i watched rey play against my son in high school.i am a big fan of his.but with no d-line he will not make a difference.morrison had 135 tackles.what do you want rey to get 157 to lead the league.but that`s only a little more than 1 more tackle a game more than morrison.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
BTW – Morrison wouldn’t have as many tackles if he helped stop a 3rd down conversion once in awhile.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
nice comeback kid, and oh yeah, o’douls is non-alcoholic, u wont get drunk
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:38 pm
ha ha your so funny
Super Bowl Champions San Diego Chargers
Chargers 31, Bears 23
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:40 pm
post#298.you can rotate all you want.burgess gives up min 50 pounds and jay richardson is a 6 round pick.most teams have their best run blocker on the right side.do the math.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:40 pm
no your prediction is funny, chargers= need saftey help, DE help, MLB, help, goff left, LT is on downside, no way there going to the SB, u guys had ur chance, and let norv fail u
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:41 pm
BD29
Everyone seems hung up on his number of tackles. When you make a tackle 5 yards from the LOS, your not really helping. Morrison gets chipped and is blown out of position. He is not a true MLB. He would make a great SLB imo. I think Rey could clean up messes that Kirk missed. Most of his tackles he had to run up from behind because he was out of position. Not good for a MLB to be chasing someone down, they’re supossed to knock them down head on.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:41 pm
kirk morrison gets killed on this site!135 tackles and it`s his fault.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Raidersince87, your a f*ck face. No, just kidding. Have a nice night.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:42 pm
The only way the Chargers make the Super Bowl is in Madden.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:43 pm
I was thinking, now the Redskins might have to trade up to get a QB, by pursuing Cutler they signaled they need/want a new QB…
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:43 pm
lol 951
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:44 pm
What’s up nation. Cutler is gone, and Denver doesn’t have a QB. “Oh happy day”
Raji on drugs. If the reports are true, then we should draft Brace, or T Taylor from Mich.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:46 pm
i put a you tube video of rey getting blocked by oregon state repeatedly.that is what happens when the d-line let`s the o-line control them.oregon state the prof is in the video.all the usc lb`s took a beating that night.watch again and you tell me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38nQq2U5Mvg&feature=PlayList&p=A72D5BA85A727112&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=7
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:47 pm
BD
Kirk isn’t the only one to blame for the garbage Defense. He is fast, great hands and can tackle. He is just undersized for a “true” MLB. I would love for him to resign next year, just as a SLB not a MLB. He is giving up over 20lbs to most of the MLB’s in the NFL, and that is from his “listed weight”. Everyone knows those are inflated numbers anyway, so it could actually be somewhere near 30.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:48 pm
#311 Seriously LOL
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:48 pm
i saw that sc game, thats why we need a better d-line , it doesnt matter who u have at mlb if the o-line is always in the 2nd level
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:49 pm
LMN,
I don’t think the Skins will draft a QB, Cutler is an upgrade over JC so they were interested. I cant imagine them drafting a QB. They need DEs, OL, LBs, and DBs.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:50 pm
true
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:50 pm
what about #7 raji(keep him out of humbolt), and brace in the 2nd
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:51 pm
I watched it earlier when you put it up. the oregon back is smaller than Sproles and runs a 4.2 40. Its understandable that rey and the other guys had a hard time getting to him. The d-line was banged up for that game too.
If the Raiders got Rey in the 1st, and Brace in the 2nd, the Defense would be looking MUCH BETTER.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Our continued film study.
Look at the first couple of seconds of this clip. Freeze this frame at 3 seconds. Once again, the two guards engage the LBs right off the top.
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80d0b4f9
This whole game was a disaster.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:51 pm
This draft is getting ugly for us:
We can only hope that the Broncos will want to jump ahead to snag Stafford or Sanchez.
Otherwise I am seeing Monroe, Jason Smith, Curry, Crabtree, Orakpo, and Michael Oher being taken in the first 6 picks. That leaves us with Maclin, who is just not a split-end in the NFL, Raji who is throwing red-flags up worse than Andre Smith, maybe Rey-Rey, Everette Brown who is way under-sized, and maybe DHB left to choose from.
I think Rey-Rey can only be a two-down LB in the NFL, but I would still take him over the rest of the clowns that are left, if this scenario takes place.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:51 pm
then wr robiskie in the 3rd
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Kirk is 6′2 240, is that undersized?!?
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:53 pm
i just saw it SnB, we need dt’s bad
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:55 pm
That’s the problem RS87′
Taking a pot-head from New England and transplanting him to the 420 capitol of the United States would be a disaster. You can’t keep him away from Humboldt, Humboldt will come to him.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:55 pm
then we should probably move kelly back to the right end and see if he can stack it on that side, and would create a good rotation
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:55 pm
RS87
IF raji failed his drug test he will miss the first 4 games this season, be placed in the drug program and wind up just like D. Russell. Thanks but no thanks. That is one headache I could do with out.
Failed drug test (2x’s), suspended for a full season, suspended for his final bowl game……..very bad track record.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:55 pm
and rey will give up 30-80 pounds to every guard that does not block the worthless nt.16 games a year.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:55 pm
lol bart, cant argue with that
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:57 pm
is ayers from tenn, or tyson jackson of lsu to much of a reach at #7
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:58 pm
BD
That is why Brace @ 40 would need to be the pick.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:00 pm
The 2 main reasons I like Rey:
1. Hard hitting, take no b.s. and get sheet done MLB.
2. Allows to move Kirk to SLB filling 2 holes with 1 pick.
Just makes too much sence to me.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:00 pm
I think Rey can play all 3 downs. What he lacks in 40 speed, he makes up for on the field with hard hitting and a nose for the ball. I don’t think he is better than Kirk, he may hit harder, but kirk is very smart and fast. Great combo.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:02 pm
BBB,
328, LMAO
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:03 pm
ayers 6′3 270, jackson 6′4 295, could stack the edge for us, then brace in the 2nd
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Kirk isn’t a down hill LB, Rey is. Rey ran between a 4.59 and 4.70 at his pro day depending on which watch you were looking at. for a 260lb guy, that is moving.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:06 pm
rey at 7, brace in the 2nd, i would feel good about that, then maybe we could blitz an outside lb sometimes to help with the pass rush, solves 3 problems (potentially)
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Raider Nation 951 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:33 pm
RS87
That is an easy fix. ROTATION. Stop leaving Burgess out on run plays and sub him in keeping him fresh. Richardson could be used the same way. Look for another DE in the 3rd or 4th. The Raiders have 5 de’s on the roster currently, and Kelly can slide out to end if needed.
^^^^^^^
I think drafting Jarron Gilbert would add great depth, versatility and strength to the D-Line…..the guy can play DE and UT in some situations. He would be a solid base DE though….
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:08 pm
with rey in the middle, kirk or howard coming of the edge, i would like to see that
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Sapp got busted for pot, he had a pretty good career. Boldin for our round 1 pick is an interesting thought because we can re-do his contract makin him a very happy man while still spending alot less than we would have on a #7 and get a proven commodity. Brace in round 2 and best lb in round 3 and were in business
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:08 pm
testing…
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:10 pm
RS87 That would really get me excited about the season. Pick up a blocking TE, have Shields break out this season. WOW. I would go into the season very ready for the chokers on MNF.
Gilbert looks like a stud too, but he’s coming out of a weak conference so its kind of a crap shoot.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:10 pm
look i played corner in a 4-3 under in college.i currently coach high school.i attended many coaches clinics over the last 7 years with some of the top high school,college and pro coaches speaking.i have been schooled by some of the best.pete carrol to name one.that`s why i bring up the oregon state game.because usc runs a pro 4-3 under.you translate that straight to the raiders.usc got beat up front that game and the lb`s took a beaten.that happens all the time with the raiders d-lineman.i have notes and handouts from these clinics .when it comes to the 4-3 under the nt must keep the o-lineman off the lb.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:11 pm
I love Kirk and Howard like the next guy but RB did run over them at times. Aint gonna happen to Rey
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:11 pm
I’m a big USC and Rey Fan, And I agree that he will be a great MLB in the NFL IMO. I just don’t see the LBs as the problem ( we need a SLB), but I see the Dline as more of the problem than LBs. Not a lot of LBs can shed blocks from O linemen.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:12 pm
rey weighs 249 and you are always faster at the proday.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:14 pm
cool link LMN…
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:14 pm
I like it LMN.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:15 pm
gilbert looks really good
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Blackdeath would you say Brace or Moala (6′4) have a better chance at bein a succesful NT than Raji (6′1) in the NFL?
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Rey was 6′3 260 at the combine.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:19 pm
T Jackson isn’t a reach and is the best base DE in the draft. Doesn’t get to the qb however so he’s kinda 1 dimensional. Don’t know how much better he is than Richardson…
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:19 pm
I can’t wait for the SD game. If we win, ohh… Since I live in SD I will go all out.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:21 pm
He lost weight. lol
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:22 pm
testing
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:23 pm
sweet, my link is working now.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:25 pm
RaiderO
I’m in the Temecula area. WHEN the Raiders win your probly hear me yelling (unless I go up for the game.)
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Testing.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:27 pm
How often do you go for games, and who do you go with?
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:27 pm
#354 Raider Nation 951 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Rey was 6′3 260 at the combine.
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The above is false. Rey was 6′1.6″ 249 at the combine, and ran a 4.82 40.
http://www.steelersdepot.com/2009combine/2009-linebackers-nfl-combine-results.html
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:27 pm
I guess the, eh hem…”brain-trust” in Chicago didn’t see the 2nd Raiders/Broncos game last season. Wow. I’m not saying that they shouldn’t have gone after Cutler, but jeez. That’s like Joe Montana compensation.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:29 pm
I’m looking at the sky, I’m trying
Not to cry, coz’ it’s over
The’re turning down the light
It’s late now
I guess it’s time to say
Goodbye…
Coz it’s after dark now
And (Oakland)Disneyland is closed
We’ve been served
Icecold beer
And (Al)Waldy is our host
It’s after dark now
And (Oakland)Disneyland is closed…
The party is over
The night is here
Let’s bring out a toast…
Well its the end of the show
It’s time to go
Along the cliffs at night
Were taking you home
Hey take a look at the park
What a beautiful sight
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Night all… take care…
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:32 pm
i think i got something in my eye
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:32 pm
408…
heads up, just 40 post to go =) night
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Maualuga supposedly had an awesome pro day.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:33 pm
I agree with everyone that Raji can no longer be the pick at 7. That is very unfortunate. Some team later in the draft is going to get a steal. But character counts and the number 7 money is too high to roll the dice like that.
The Raiders still need lineman. Linebackers are not going to help this defense. As you saw in those clips, the DTs were single manned and the linebackers were getting mauled by guards and tackles getting to the second level.
1. Tyson Jackson DE, LSU – A little bit of a reach but they need someone to close the outside.
2. Ron Brace DT, BC – A big body that we need to replace Sands/Warren..
3. Jasper Brinkley LB, South Car…Compete with Morrison inside and provide talent as SLB
4. David Bruton, S, Notre Dame…big safety with speed
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:34 pm
if u dont run in the 4.40’s, your suspect to Al
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Now that we have to register, I can tell you the secret to knowing who MaddenRaider is trolling as….let me know “rather or not” you want to hear it.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:35 pm
951,
The reason I ask is I want to go with someone to the game.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Scratch him off the list. I seem to remember the last DL we took in the first round Darrel Russel RIP. He didn’t work out so well. denver good luck with orton can you say rebuild.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:36 pm
i could live with that SnB
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:36 pm
RaiderO
I usually go up around Christmas wth the wife. I’m not working right now so I’ll more than likely go up for MNF. Not sure if the wife is going this time. Last year was the first time in 7 years I didn’t go to a game.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:37 pm
we definitly need to upgrade at the will position
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Raider Nation 951
That might be a good thing. I go to a game once a year. Last year I chose the atlanta game. OUCH
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:40 pm
and whos going to play ss this season
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:40 pm
O
You wanting to go to Oakland or the game in SD?
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:41 pm
I was boycotting last year. My wife still dropped mad money at the Raider Image, but I didn’t make the trip to the Bay.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:42 pm
post #353
ron brace is a pure nt.but i never watch any bc games.wish i had.fila moala is very talented nt/ut,more than brace and has more upside.you make the call.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:42 pm
in the 1st Round you draft the player/position with the biggest drop-off in talent after the top player at that position/need is taken.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:43 pm
951,
My schd is open this year, so if you ever want someone to go with, plz let me know. I’ve been thinking about going to a game in Oak foe a few years, but never had a chance with the work schd.
By the way, if I ever go with you, I’ll buy the first few RDs.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:43 pm
the raiders will never go 4 rounds without drafting a single offensive player
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Oak bro,
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:44 pm
A group from the local sports bar is getting together to go as a group to the SD game. I’ll let you know where they’re meeting up.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:46 pm
A few more looks of our run defense. This time against Miami. Look at the first 3 plays in particular. DTs again pushed out of the way, running backs going full speed through the line, OG’s wrestling with linebackers
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80c86427
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:49 pm
raidersince87 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:40 pm
and whos going to play ss this season
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Tyvon Branch. The Raiders like him. He is supposed to be a big hitter with a lot of speed. Had a pick last year with a broken hand
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:51 pm
951,
In Oakland bro. I live in SD, so I can always watch the raiders here. I want to go to Oak, I hear the games there are diff.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:52 pm
that miami video was horrible, o-lines makes a living in the 2nd level against us
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
If we can add Bruton next to Branch, we can have good size and speed at the Safety position.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Oakland games are completely different.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:55 pm
The flavor of this set of plays is how our tender DEs got blown off the ball. Look at the size of the holes for Michael Turner. Fix the D-Line!!!!
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80c27781
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
i had to stop watching the atlanta film, i couldnt take it anymore
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:59 pm
the first to plays they showed were right off the edge
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:00 pm
There are NO top flite DL in this draft. Only Johnny Come Lately workout wonders. DL is definitely a need, but you cant just draft a guy because he plays a position of need. Crabtree is the surest bet in this draft. If he is there, he must be the pick at 7.
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:01 pm
somehow to me the positioning of the d-line in all these videos just doesnt seem right, it looks like they leave huge gaps in the line before the snap. is that coaching?
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Al gonna draft crabtree if hes there regardless of what we write about, i wouldnt be mad, as long as we grab brace in the second
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:04 pm
but those videos, man, we need to fix that d-line, i think the wr we got now can hold up
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:05 pm
raidersince87 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
i had to stop watching the atlanta film, i couldnt take it anymore
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Yeah, its painful to watch. And that’s only a taste of it. I will not put anymore film up there for review. Just goes to show that this D-Line is atrocious. Linebackers are getting worked over on each play, DT’s getting single blocked, shoot I didn’t even show the Ravens highlight where Warren gets stood up by a running back.
If the Raiders don’t come out of this draft with at least one guy named Tyson Jackson, Ron Brace or Jarron Gilbert…..it will be more of the same in 2009!
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:08 pm
That’s what I hear 951, and that’s why I want to go. My wife is not a sports fan, and the Raider Fans I know, can’t make the games.
Later Nation.
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:08 pm
if we draft wr at #7, all those guys could potentially be gone by the 2nd round
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Jay Cutler just got shipped to the Bears. Good for them. It’s a good deal for Chicago.
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Getting extra picks for a player or coach doesn’t always turn out to be the smartest move.
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:17 pm
I don’t care so much that Raji may have toked a little, but the stupidity and carelessness of doing it right before the NFL Combine is why I don’t trust this guy. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: if a guy has motivation/dedication questions there is no way you heap a huge contract on him unless his talent is so astronomical — ala Randy Moss coming out of college — that you simply have to roll the dice. Raji was a borderline top-10 pick before this news. If this report is true, I can’t imagine the Raiders will take him there now:
1) Rey Maualuga
2) Michael Crabtree
2a) Jeremy Maclin
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:19 pm
# SnB Defense Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:55 pm
The flavor of this set of plays is how our tender DEs got blown off the ball. Look at the size of the holes for Michael Turner. Fix the D-Line!!!!
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80c27781
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How many points did our offense score in that debacle? The only defensive player I like at No. 7 is Maualuga, because he has the chance to be a once-in-a-generation MLB. Otherwise, the offense needs a guy who can move the chains and some more talent on the line.
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Good point Lynn
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Maualuga isn’t the answer to the problem on defense plus he is a 2down backer. trade down and get Mack and a safety or D lineman
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
I watched the clips of the Miami and Atlanta games that were posted here. There were some instances of our DTs being beaten, but what I saw for the most part was them holding up their blockers at the line of scrimmage; the problems I saw were defensive ends consistently out of position and virtually no gap responsibility being taken by the linebackers.
Call me crazy, but the run defense problems seem to be more on the shoulders of the DEs and LBs.
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Chris in NY Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:19 pm
# SnB Defense Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:55 pm
The flavor of this set of plays is how our tender DEs got blown off the ball. Look at the size of the holes for Michael Turner. Fix the D-Line!!!!
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80c27781
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How many points did our offense score in that debacle? The only defensive player I like at No. 7 is Maualuga, because he has the chance to be a once-in-a-generation MLB. Otherwise, the offense needs a guy who can move the chains and some more talent on the line.
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The offense was shut out in this game. Kwame Harris was abused by Abraham, Russell was off and the running game was non-existant.
That still doesn’t explain why the D-Line got overwhelmed play after play after play.
Rey Mauluaga is not a once in a generation MLB. If he was, he wouldn’t be projected as a mid to late 1st round pick. He would be up there with Aaron Curry.
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:39 pm
S&B,
thanks for the video.theirs good and bad in the tape.the bad is are DL is not very good.the good is ryan scheme is not the best for the personel they have.the outside runs can be fixed by going to a pro 4-3 under.ryan ran a college 4-3 under.this means all three linebackers play back.this is o.k. if you are the titans or texans they have monster de.when they go 8 in the box the ss lines up with the linebackers,the de slides over the te. so it looks like a high school 4-4.(very hard to run against)weak against the pass but that`s ok because you are in a 8 man front because the opposing team is running the ball down your throat.i think marshall runs a pro 4-3 under.which puts the SLB over the te giving better outside run support.the ss comes down in the box and lines up like a WLB.this looks like a high school 5-3(super hard to run against)weak against the pass but the raiders have aso and c.j so their in good shape.you can run many variations this is basic.but they still will be weak up the middle with the current nt.
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:39 pm
edward teach Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
I watched the clips of the Miami and Atlanta games that were posted here. There were some instances of our DTs being beaten, but what I saw for the most part was them holding up their blockers at the line of scrimmage; the problems I saw were defensive ends consistently out of position and virtually no gap responsibility being taken by the linebackers.
Call me crazy, but the run defense problems seem to be more on the shoulders of the DEs and LBs.
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I will call u crazy. The DTs got stood up on single blocks or got pushed out of the way. Too many plays had guards all over the LBs, big gaping running lanes and safeties and corners making tackles. The DEs are garbage too. Especially in the Atlanta game.
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Troy Palamulu was picked 16th, Lofa Tutupu 35th. By the way do you want to pass up on Raji “the next Warren Sapp”? The guy you’ve been touting?
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Blackdeath29,
Scheme is certainly a problem. Ryan didn’t really have an attacking scheme. It seems the defense waits and react.
There are adjustments to be made for sure. But in all of those plays I see the DTs getting stood up by single blockers and moved out of the way. Those guys have to be replaced. I don’t care if its a 5th round pick at this point.
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:48 pm
that`s what you get when you draft 3 dt`s in 10 years.none in the first 3 rounds.
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:49 pm
inonewordraider Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Troy Palamulu was picked 16th, Lofa Tutupu 35th. By the way do you want to pass up on Raji “the next Warren Sapp”? The guy you’ve been touting?
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The Raiders of the 80’s I would have said screw the drug test. Today not so much. Ilegal drug use to me represents a weakness in character. Hopefully Monroe, Curry or Oher drop to number 7. Otherwise trade down or let the clock run out.
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Orakpo, T Jackson, Raji, Rey, Cushing, Crabtree all good picks @7. Gotta get a run stopping Dlineman and LB in 1st 3 rounds
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:49 pm
SnB… I would agree that the DTs are not agressive, and should be more combative at the LOS. I just saw the DEs consistently out of position, and Howard and Morrison running backwards instead of filling gaps. A large number of those big runs started up the middle but ended up going off-tackle because the DEs were not where they should have been and the LBs didn’t fill.
I’m not a defensive coordinator, and I don’t even play one on TV; it’s just what I saw.
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:50 pm
blackdeath29 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:48 pm
that`s what you get when you draft 3 dt`s in 10 years.none in the first 3 rounds.
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NOt an Antajj Hawthorne fan?
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:54 pm
I’ve argued that Raji isn’t gonna be a dominant NT but put him in a rotation with Warren, Kelly, Richardson and even Sands if we wouldn’t cut him after the acquisition would do alot for the 31st ranked run d. Sapp tested positive and look at his career and he’s only 6′2. But if he’s really gonna be suspended for a couple games as someone said earlier (I’m not sure that’s correct) then it’s not worth the 7th pick
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:57 pm
TJackson/Rey in round 1=immediate starting DE or LB
Brace/Moala in round 2=immediate starting DT
would give us a very formidable D
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Does anyone know if the drug that Raji is suppose to have tested for is Marijuana? Fortunately The Raiders, along with the rest of the NFL team know if the report is true or not. If it is I would surely not draft him that high. A player can’t help you if he is facing suspensions and expulsion from the league.
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:07 pm
I don’t think Raji can be suspended by the league for his failed test. He’s not yet an NFL player.
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Im typing this slowly so you all can understand it. With Kelly, Sands and Warren around they will NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT draft a DT with either of the first 2 picks. There is no reason to believe ANY of the 3 will be cut, they would have been already. They count for way too big a % of the salary cap and most of all Al thinks these guys can play. They are his guys and are on the famous Al Davis Scholarship Program. Its so simple, yet some of you refuse to stop banging the drum. Yes DL is a BIG problem, the bigger problem is that Al Davis does not see it that way. Period.
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:14 pm
1st round pick WILL be a WR
2nd pick WILL be a DB.
Mark it down, in pen….um…cil.
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:18 pm
i believe that Raji did understand that he was going to take a drug test…
i also believe that Raji felt comfortable with his knowledge of drugs…
and thought he would pass…
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Id take him if he fell to the 2cnd round.
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:20 pm
first round pick is a wr
second round is a dt or de
al is feed up with sands.
third round safety or ol
forth round safety or ol
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:22 pm
#428… you’d better hope you have the first pick in the second round.
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Let’s look at what we have done in the offseason.
We signed 2 Tackles, 1 DT, no S, no LB, (aside from Williams, who we already had, so I’m not counting it) and no WRs.
This leads me to believe that unless the tackle and DT signings are just a smoke screen to hide our intentions in the draft, we are either going to draft WR, S, or LB with the 7. in that order.
If Crabtree is still there, I think Al will have a very hard time passing on him. The idea of having the top QB, RB, and WR from the last 3 drafts will be too much for him to pass up. But that’s just my opinion.
I think the idea of trading with Philly for their mid 20 picks in the first is a good one. We could then select Mack and the S we need. Then draft a DT with our 2nd round pick, and maybe pull some kind of trade with Fargas and late picks to get back in the second round and select Heyward-Bey. Just a thought…
This way we have addressed all major needs in the first 2 rounds. Then with our 3rd rounder we can get a LB or T, and with the 4th rounder get whatever else we have left. It’s just an idea…
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Here is a good analysis of our draft possiblities…..
http://www.examiner.com/x-514-Oakland-Raiders-Examiner~y2009m3d31-Multple-draft-scenarios-for-the-Oakland-Raiders
Basically it boils down to a wide receiver, a defensive lineman, and a safety.
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:24 pm
DT’s that I like are Knighton who is tall, long and solid at 6′3 315 and of course the UT/Base DE Gilbert at 6′5 285….Brace also at 6′3 327
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:29 pm
1.- (7th)- OL Michael Oher
2.- (40th)- DE Michael Johnson
3.- (71st)- WR Ramses Barden
4.- (126th)- S Chip Vaughn
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Crap…gotta run.
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:36 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLcZcQEEPbA&feature=related
This kid is good…and smart with media
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Anyway, 434 would be make a good draft for me, I have a couple of other scenarios I would also like.
See you guys in a while, I hope.
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:39 pm
round 1-macklin(wr)
round 2-johnson(de)
round 3-betty(ol)
round 4-vaughn(fs)
round 7-flecher(c)
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:48 pm
jeramy maclin is the #7 pick.homerun hitter.forget about the punt and kick returns the kid can play wr.102 rec as a sophmore is no accident.watch the video and at 2.24 min check out the seperation from the corner when the ball is in the air.you can`t put a stopwatch on that, you can`t coach that.elite top end track speed at 6 foot tall in a real wr.that one play sent shocks waves in the raiders headquarters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzrltr66LqI
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:00 pm
this should be the raiders 3 round pick.put him at ss move tyvon branch to fs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_37qMvwSMwo
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Damn it, someone stole my nic
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:14 pm
This is a test!
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:17 pm
“Is it only a test?”…lol sorry, couldn’t resist.
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Draft Rey at 7,..wtf not?…too high?…baloney,…heres another point, he gets taken at 7,..all the “experts” say the Raiders blew it and took him too high,..dont think that would motivate him even more?…Rey has got to be the pick.
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Last year someone mentioned the idea of using Fargas, McFadden, and Bush in the same game and in that order, every game. The thought was that Fargas could be used as the softener of defenses, McFadden could be the breaker, and Bush the Pounder.
I would like to take it a step further, and plan the method of attack.
We could use Fargas from the first Qtr into the first drive of the second Qtr. Then switch to McFadden and take him all the way into the end of the third, with Fargas subbing for him in the first half, and Bush in the third. Then sometime before the middle of the fourth, we unleash Bush full time. with Fargas or maybe both him and McFadden subbing. This way it will keep all 3 RBs somewhat fresh all game, it will give our suppose “homerun hitter” most of the carries, and it will make great usage of all 3 good RBs we have, while at the same time keeping all of them happy by getting playing time. This idea is flexible though, if one of the 3 show that they are better than the rest, then we can use him in McFadden’s place.
This is solely for the running game. Play action and passing plays are not included. Though I suppose we could use some trickery and since the defense will know our rotation, we could switch it up on them during the game. Like putting in both McFadden and Bush in a 2 back pro formation, with McF as FB, and run a play action to him when Bush should’ve been getting the ball. I’m talking about the fourth Qtr here. I don’t know, just trying to be creative, ya know.
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:34 pm
What up fellas,
pretty sure we trading down now. I think we’re locked in on Ramses Barden at #40. Hopefully we get Philly’s #21 and #28 or Detroit’s #20 and #33.
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:54 pm
445. Problem with an Oakland version of eath wind and fire is DMC and Bush’s lack of pass protection.
Thats partially why Farg was the man. We lost both FB’s and with our weak azz tackles, protection from the backs was alomost essential even with designed rolls and boots.
Hopefully, they’ll have improved enough to play more. Both DMC and Bush are potential game breaking weapons…
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Jerry is it true OakGlenn tried to reg 65 screen names ?
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:58 pm
I have a better idea. Leave Fargas out of the mix so DMAC and BUSH can buzz saw through defenses, especially the AFC West!
EMRaiders Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Last year someone mentioned the idea of using Fargas, McFadden, and Bush in the same game and in that order, every game. The thought was that Fargas could be used as the softener of defenses, McFadden could be the breaker, and Bush the Pounder.
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Signing a punk with no character to lead your franchise is a great move! I’m sure his new teammates are ecstatic. Nice WR group waiting for Jay in Chi.
# Oakglenn Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Jay Cutler just got shipped to the Bears. Good for them. It’s a good deal for Chicago.
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:15 pm
New reality show….
Al Davis: It’s Complicated
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Did it just get stupider in here??? Yup. Mistabrown somehow slithered in. For everyone who thought registration would somehow improve the blog, mistabrown being here is proof that crap will somehow still get thru.
Mistabrown Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Signing a punk with no character to lead your franchise is a great move! I’m sure his new teammates are ecstatic. Nice WR group waiting for Jay in Chi.
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Actually, getting a pro bowl QB is always something most franchises would want. Of course you once again prove you know absolutely nothing about anything. The only thing you have ever proven mistabrown is the more the speak, the stupider you sound. LMFAO.
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Mistabrown Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:58 pm
I have a better idea. Leave Fargas out of the mix
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As if this guy couldn’t get any stupider, obviously he did not know Justin Fargas and Nnamdi Asomugha were voted the Commitment to Excellence Award by their own teammates and coaches at the awards ceremony a couple of weeks ago. Fargas exhibits everything you would want in a team mate and he is a perfect role model for what the young backs should emulate and model themselves to become excellent pros. But of course mistabrown, you somehow know more about the game of football than 53 NFL players and dozens of coaches that have been around the game their entire lives. What a complete fukking moron.
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Where’d that idiot go?? He must have wandered down to Walgreens to load up on some more stupid pills. Mistabrown thinks those pills give him super power to be ultra stupid. He’s right.
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:24 am
Mistabrown, report his personal insults to the mods. Once his name is banned, it’s gone. Nobody can use it again.
April 3rd, 2009 at 6:03 am
Have we all forgotton about Kirk Morisson? He was the top LB in the draft his year and he also tested positive for marajuana and his stock level dropped and we stole him in the 3rd round. I see deja-vu all over again for Raji.
April 3rd, 2009 at 9:34 am
The Raiders have plenty of very good receivers already onboard, what they do not have is an “O” line that can sustain the run or provide JR the protection to grow. It’s hard to be accurate when you are constantly pressured and running for your life.
The Raiders need a dominant “O” line before they draft any more primadonna at the WR position. Go back and look at Henderson at LT the last three games. He is too slow and not athletic enough to play that position against the better teams. The Raiders gave him help the few times they ran to the left and mostly ran to the right side or JR rolled right on a pass.
Khalif Barnes is a reject from the Jaguars and Al Davis knows this, that’s why he only got a one year contract.
Samson Satele is inferior talent compared to Jake Grove at center that is why he was cut loose by Parcels and we got him for cheap.
Carlisle is a reject from Denver and though just OK still gets planted by the bigger NTs.
Grove is a good run blocker but a terrible pass blocker and probably will be facing a suspension for domestic violence.
Pears lost his starting job in Denver before he was out all last year for his surgery.
The ZBS is not a panacea for mediocre linemen thats why Al Davis told Cable he wanted more “O” linmen with power.
The defensive line needs upgrading too but the “D” players never reached their real potential due to Rob Ryan’s poor coaching and schemes. Plus the the “D” will benfit from a balanced “O” that can run and pass the ball.
Finally, the Raiders will benefit more by drafting an “O” lineman #7, preferably Andre Smith, the tackle in the draft. Andre Smith is the same size as Khalif Barnes and when you watch his tape, he is dominant against both the run and pass. Take Brace at DT in the 2nd who fits in better with our existing “D” crew and then Brinkley at MLB in the 3rd. Get a SS or DE with the 4th pick.
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Trade down and pick Raji later. It worked out well for Tampa and Sapp a few years ago. I wish we could get a receiver but whoever posted earlier that receivers usually don’t work out high in the draft is right. I guess there are a lot of DTackles picked high that don’t work out either. So I don’t know what to do. Trade down, take Raji, maybe pick up one of those picks we had to swipe out earlier.
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:05 pm
I agree with Mad Road Dog also. I think you can never have too many offensive linemen. Except our defense is just so horrible that I think we’d have to go D Tackle. I’d prefer that we pick nothing but offensive and defense linemen for all of our picks. Hopefully we can strike gold late in the draft on some of them.
April 7th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Raider Dell Says:
April 7th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
SnB Defense Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:31 pm
The positive drug test is disappointing and shows poor judgement and character. I have to be real here. Drug tests are a big red flag. Although, Warren Sapp was an idiot too.
Therefore, I can understand passing on Raji now.
However, the Raiders should be targeting Monroe, J. Smith or Michael Oher with the number 7 pick. Possibly look at trading down.
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SnB
Let’s look at some more.
SnB Defense Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Raider Nation 951 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:14 pm
I wouldn’t be upset with Brace. I would rather have him than Raji.
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I am no longer on the Raji at #7 bandwagon. A failed drug test that late in the process is unacceptable. But Raji getting drafted does not change the deplorable situation on the D-Line.
SnB Defense Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:33 pm
I agree with everyone that Raji can no longer be the pick at 7. That is very unfortunate. Some team later in the draft is going to get a steal. But character counts and the number 7 money is too high to roll the dice like that.
The Raiders still need lineman. Linebackers are not going to help this defense. As you saw in those clips, the DTs were single manned and the linebackers were getting mauled by guards and tackles getting to the second level.
1. Tyson Jackson DE, LSU – A little bit of a reach but they need someone to close the outside.
2. Ron Brace DT, BC – A big body that we need to replace Sands/Warren..
3. Jasper Brinkley LB, South Car…Compete with Morrison inside and provide talent as SLB
4. David Bruton, S, Notre Dame…big safety with speed
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