Orakpo and the Texas dilemma
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, April 8th, 2009 at 2:47 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Texas defensive end Brian Orakpo might be the most imposing physical specimen in the NFL draft.
He could be another DeMarcus Ware.
Or another Vernon Gholston.
Orakpo could be available when the Raiders choose at No. 7, and Al Davis is always on the lookout for a potentially explosive pass rusher.
Each player is scouted on his own merits, but you wonder whether scouts will take into account the track record of first-round draft picks out of the University of Texas when making the call on Orapko.
With only a few exceptions, the players out of Texas out of the last 10 years deemed the best pro prospects by virtue of their selection in the first round of the draft have underachieved.
The Raiders know this all too well, having used the No. 7 overall pick in the 2006 draft on safety Michael Huff, who went from disappointing to millimeters from bust status after washing out at free safety and losing his job to Hiram Eugene.
Huff was a slender strong safety who did some good things in coverage even if he seldom made plays. The switch to free safety was one of the big stories of training camp, with teammates talking about how natural Huff looked and what a difference he would make.
Instead, he was invisible.
The good news regarding the Longhorns is that the two players taken in the first round of the 2007 draft may have turned the tide on the unappealing Texas trend.
Huff isn’t alone in the Texas dishnor roll. A look at the good, bad and ugly of Texas draft picks over the past 10 years.
2007
1-19 Michael Griffin, S, Tennessee Titans: Named to Pro Bowl as an injury replacement this season. Looks like a winner.
1-20 Aaron Ross, CB, New York Giants: Six picks and 24 starts in his first two seasons _ a good beginning.
2006
1-3 Vince Young, QB, Tennessee Titans: Hasn’t showed the passing skill or the mental toughness to succeed at the NFL’s most demanding position.
1-7 Michael Huff, S, Oakland Raiders: Dangled as trade bait last year, hard to imagine getting anything substantial for him at this point.
2005
1-4-Cedric Benson, RB, Chicago Bears: A flop in Chicago, Benson has been of some value for the Bengals but nothing approaching his status as the fourth overall pick.
1-15 Derrick Johnson, LB, Kansas City Chiefs: Among the Chiefs leading tacklers since his arrival, but hasn’t been a game-altering presence. Will test skills in a 3-4 defense this year.
2004
1-7 Roy Williams, WR, Detroit Lions: Word is Davis may have pounced on Williams if he didn’t take Robert Gallery. Has had some big statistical years and was a Pro Bowl injury replacement with Detroit, now will be the main man in Dallas with Terrell Owens gone.
1-23, Marcus Tubbs, DT, Seattle Seahawks: Had four injury-riddled years before Seahawks gave up on him and released him following the 2008 season.
2002
1-4 Mike Williams, T, Buffalo Bills: Struggled with weight which broke 360 pounds, considered one of G.M. Tom Donahoe’s biggest mistakes. Last played with Jaguars in 2006.
1-5 Quintin Jammer, CB, San Diego Chargers: Chris Johnson may have made more plays since taking over for DeAngelo Hall than Jammer has made since he joined the Chargers. Average at best.
2001
1-2 Leonard Davis, G, Arizona Cardinals: Never became the player he was supposed to be with Cardinals but has flourished in Dallas, making the 2007 Pro Bowl.
1-19 Casey Hampton, NT, Pittsburgh: Despite weight and conditioning struggles, the man the call “Big Snack” made a 2003 Pro Bowl appearance and was an excellent addition to the center of a the NFL’s toughest 3-4 defense.
1999
1-5-Ricky Williams, RB, New Orleans Saints: Undeniable talent sidetracked by marijuana use.
Hold it on Maclin
For what it’s worth, a source familiar with Missouri wide receiver Jeremy Maclin says there are no plans in place to visit Oakland, contrary to a report on Raiderbeat.com and picked up by Profootballtalk.com.
The report cited confirmation from a “team official,” which ordinarily means something which has been cleared to be made public by either John Herrera or Mike Taylor. Not so in this case, because the Raiders haven’t publicly confirmed a single visitor to the complex with regard to prospective draft picks.
It doesn’t mean a Maclin visit isn’t happening, only that Raiders officials won’t confirm it as a matter of record and that a source familiar with Maclin said Wednesday a trip wasn’t scheduled.
Most important, whether Maclin sets foot on 1120 Harbor Bay Parkway isn’t of much help in determining the Raiders’ level of interest.
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April 8th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
ANDRE SMITH!!!!
April 8th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Great, if the Raiders are denying that Maclin is going to visit the Raiders it could only mean one thing…we are drafting Maclin.
April 8th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
So is this where you work LMN?
http://www.maerskline.com/link/?page=brochure&path=/about_us
April 8th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Finally…. that said… Jerry was this IT??
Raiderbeat, dont know shyt… my dead cat knows more about raiders than the raiderbeat..
April 8th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Dakota..
thats our HQ… I might be working there…
April 8th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Who cares Jerry! if the kid can play, I don’t care which college he came from.
April 8th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Raider Dell Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
I wonder who is this year’s diamond in the rough this draft. Every year the fans and experts completely overlook a true pro talent. Al do something my man!!!
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Brien hope all is well,
I’ve been crunching numbers and see you have asked a great question and I will put my two cents in the question.
I have identified two sleepers you may want to check out:
Henry Melton DE Texas 6′3 265lbs 4.65 40 round 4 or 5 selection.
Brian Mandeville TE Northwestern
April 8th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Nice looking HQ LMN.
April 8th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
and now for the solomon mines thing… I deserve some pleasure after this crappy day..
April 8th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Lucky to have you Jerry! Thanks again…
April 8th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Ricky Brown is the worse I’ve ever seen.
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Brien: throw some facts out there to support this retarded statement please.
April 8th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
repost:
Michael Huff has no trade value at all. He’s a bust right now. If not for the Raiders, he would be out of the league right now.
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Agree & Disagree.
Agree that Huff has no trade value and his current price tag.
Disagree that he’d be out of the league if the Raiders wouldn’t have him. 31 teams would be interested. If not for Rob Ryan… Huff might be a pro bowler
Little Mike isn’t a SS. He doesn’t belong in the box. He’s young, he shouldn’t be doing this “interchangable safety” garbage Ryan tried to use to confuse opposing offenses. All it did was confuse our own personnel on D. Cable was wrong to bench him after only 5 starts at FS. Nnamdi Asomugha even called him out for that. Last year should have been Huff’s third year at FS …
Why can Huff blanket Tony Gonzalez and take him out of a ballgame, but Asomugha can’t? explain that one to me
April 8th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Brien,
Yes, Russell does have to get better. But his issues are no different than any young QB. With Garcia on the roster, he has a veteran that he can observe in the film room and on the practice field. That will make him better and he is already on the right track.
Garcia will only play due to injury to Russell or if Tom Cable sticks with Justin Fargas. And if Fargas is the guy getting carries, then it won’t matter who the QB is.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
see you fellas tomorrow!
April 8th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Breaking News:
Maersk CEO John Reinhart told reporters today that the man responsible for overseeing the safe travels of all Maersk vessels was distracted by posting comments on a blog dedicated to an American Football team. Sources say that the unidentified man has been suspended without pay pending an investigation.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Why everyone(national media) hatin on garcia comin to rayduhs?? 7-9 here we come!!!!!
April 8th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
I really hope the Raiders don’t draft Jeremy Maclin.
I hope the #7 pick comes down to Raji, T. Jackson or Crabtree.
Raji and T. Jackson because the Raiders have the WORST D-Line in the NFL and you can’t WIN without a D-Line
and Crabtree because, while I don’t like receivers in the top 10, at least he’s considered a can’t miss prospect by so-called pundits.
No more speedsters. How many of these speed guys become anything in the NFL anyway
April 8th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Dakota. lol
April 8th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
****in’ Raiderbeat is a joke hack site.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Not bad S N B. What’s wrong with Orakpo and Rey though?
April 8th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
RaiderRockstar,
Michael Huff has to show me something. A guy taken in the top 10 is supposed to be dominant. He was benched in favor of some journeyman.
It could be the defense though. I think the safeties are to relied upon do to the pourous run defense up front. I don’t know. Huff has to show me something. I was expecting the guy to make plays last year, especially with a guy like Aso locking down oneside of the field. instead Huff disappeared.
He has a lot to prove.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Dell, thanks. Glad to see ya buddy. Al watches talent different from others and tht use to lead to wins and lately it hasnt. Hope its makes a surprise comeback. I still really want Sammie Lee Hill as my nose tackle.
Without trades and as is I would want the draft like this
Round 1 Rey Maualuga MLB The type of player that makes you defense tough again
Round 2 Michael Johnson DE This is a hope he falls because I personally wouldnt be shocked if Al traded up for him or reach for him in a round 1. Tall long pass rusher who will be 275-280 during the height of his career.
Round 3 Sammie Lee Hill NT Versatile lineman who has size to ply 2 gap but has ability to rush passer as college team played him at DE his senior year because teams gameplanned too much around him
Round 4 Bear Pascoe TE We are using 2 TE sets and we have garbage after Miller. This guy is the samer skill set as Zach and would be perfect
Round 7 Get the best fullback who can open hole and sustain blocks
This is a great plan to be tough again as a team.
Round 3 Antoine Caldwell Center
April 8th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Talent we should target and draft:
1- J Smith/ Monroe/ Curry/ Raji/ Orakpo
2- Brace/ Moore/ Robiskie/ M Johnson/ Jarron Gilbert
3- Ramses B/ Bruton/ OLB Freeman from OSU
4- Bruton/ Ramses B/ J Wlliams/ T Taylor
April 8th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
LOL oops messed up. Round 3 Andre Caldwell is who I’d highly consider as well if Hill doesnt convince you
April 8th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Dakota,
Maybe LMN was responsible for tracking that particular ship. LOL
April 8th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
7- C from Sranford.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
inonewordraider Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Not bad S N B. What’s wrong with Orakpo and Rey though?
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Orakpo is a pass rusher. Burgess and Trevor Scott will be fine. I really like Scott full-time. The Raiders need a base defensive end that’s stout on the run and can provide some pass rush. That’s not Orakpo. Orakpo is a DE/OLB guy.
As for Rey Mauluaga. If Rey was an uber talent, then he should be in the conversation with Aaron Curry. But he’s not. Because he is a 2-down linebacker in the NFL, that’s not good value at #7. Plus, with the Raider D-Line the way it is, he will fare no better than Kirk Morrison.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Dakota,
Maybe LMN was responsible for tracking that particular ship. LOL
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Could be…looks like LMN picked the wromg day to quit sniffing glue:
http://szwayabrown.com/BeerAndMud/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/airplane-lloyd-bridges-sniff-glue.jpg
April 8th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Dakota,
I was LMAO at the pictures. If Bynum plays, I’ll stay up tomorrow to watch it. We’ll need him because of the Cav’s home record.
Nuggets all the way this year baby
:twisted:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Ricky Brown is the worse I’ve ever seen.
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Brien: throw some facts out there to support this retarded statement please.
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Ricky Brown misses tackles and is quite undersized. The Joe Flacco QB catch he looked completely unathletic! Ricky Brown makes zero plays of significance. Bringing him back does what for your defense? Nada. Come on you know I got backup for everything I say. Dont toss out ridiculous stats because they never tell the true story
April 8th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Brien — You have backup for everything you say? What’s the backup…your opinion?
That carries a lot of weight.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Dakota,
I was LMAO at the pictures. If Bynum plays, I’ll stay up tomorrow to watch it. We’ll need him because of the Cav’s home record.
Nuggets all the way this year baby
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Wow, did not know McDonald’s was having a special on them.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
SnB completely wrong about Rey. He isnt great at pass coverage but will bring fear into rbs,te and wrs who think they can run across the middle unlike Kirk. How could you say he wouldnt fare better than Kirk? Kirk misses tackles all day!! He is part of the trash run defense’s issues
April 8th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Raider Dell Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Troll35
Yes I would consider Ry Cooder as a good blues artist.
I’m glad you have some good blues history as well.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
The Nuggets do make me a little nervous…Fisher can’t handle Billups. So this year it might take the Lakers 5 games to win a series against them.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
SnB, Burgess is fine? How the hell can you say that. He got worse every year and is in a contract year. Trade bait! They should have let him go last draft. Guy sucks
April 8th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Trade 2009 and 2010 1st round picks for Julius Peppers.
Invest the 20 plus million cost of the 7th pick into the long term deal Peppers is seeking.
Now you build your Defense around an All-Pro DE and an All-Pro CB, both in their prime and ready to roll for the next 4 or 5 years.
Fill other needs with our 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Breaking News:
A.P. Maersk CEO Eivind Kolding told reporters today that the man responsible for overseeing the safe travels of all Maersk vessels was distracted by posting comments on a blog dedicated to an American Football team. Sources say that the unidentified man has been suspended without pay pending an investigation
April 8th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Better?
April 8th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Hayes no its fact. Someone try and dispute what I say if you dont agree but in the end you all see the light
April 8th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
SnB completely wrong about Rey. He isnt great at pass coverage but will bring fear into rbs,te and wrs who think they can run across the middle unlike Kirk. How could you say he wouldnt fare better than Kirk? Kirk misses tackles all day!! He is part of the trash run defense’s issues
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The pass coverage issue is what is keeping him out of the top 10. As for fear in to RBs etc…I don’t think NFL football players worry about that stuff. Its X’s and O’s…The only intimidator is for WRs going over the middle exposed. I don’t spend too much on the Hulkamaniac stuff.
Regardless, I think Rey could be a very good player. I am an “Inside-Out” guy when it comes to defense so we will never agree on this. I think the D-Line makes the linebacker…..not the other way around. Therefore, I don’t believe looking at linebackers will do much good until the NT and Base DE positions are addressed
April 8th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Dell, thanks. Glad to see ya buddy. Al watches talent different from others and tht use to lead to wins and lately it hasnt. Hope its makes a surprise comeback. I still really want Sammie Lee Hill as my nose tackle.
Without trades and as is I would want the draft like this
Round 1 Rey Maualuga MLB The type of player that makes you defense tough again
Round 2 Michael Johnson DE This is a hope he falls because I personally wouldnt be shocked if Al traded up for him or reach for him in a round 1. Tall long pass rusher who will be 275-280 during the height of his career.
Round 3 Sammie Lee Hill NT Versatile lineman who has size to ply 2 gap but has ability to rush passer as college team played him at DE his senior year because teams gameplanned too much around him
Round 4 Bear Pascoe TE We are using 2 TE sets and we have garbage after Miller. This guy is the samer skill set as Zach and would be perfect
Round 7 Get the best fullback who can open hole and sustain blocks
This is a great plan to be tough again as a team.
Round 3 Antoine Caldwell Center
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Brien your number 4 pick is not a bad choice, I have looked at Brian Mandeville as as back up TE and we can probably draft him in the fifth round and his skills will not mirror Zach Miller but he can block and has enough skills to become a very good receiver.
The comparison to my pick Mandeville or Stewart is both can play special teams, but Mandeville has a better upside and will have a lower salary for the same results that Stewart provides.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Bob,
I would love to have Peppers playing DE for the Raiders too, but the guy has his heart set on playing in a 3-4 defense on a contending team. At this point we don’t seem to fit his requirements.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
As long as craptree aint the pick as 7, I can live with anyone else but that guy is d\not going to be better than CJ, Fitz,Moss, To,Chad, Andre Johnson or Steve Smith. Al is crazy but not that crazy
April 8th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
BUSH29willtranscendDMAC20 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Why everyone(national media) hatin on garcia comin to rayduhs?? 7-9 here we come!!!!!
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There is one main reason for Garcia to be here: He will show JaMarcus Russell how to work like a pro and scrap for his job. Garcia won’t beat out JaMarcus, because JaMarcus is a far better natural athlete, with a higher upside than the “over-achieving” Garcia.
That said, JaMarcus would do well (and do well by the Raiders) if he reached the level of competetive consistency Garcia has reached in a very good pro career. Garcia will light the fire under JaMarcus — and JaMarcus will respond to the heat. He’d better, because although Garcia is a giant leap up from Tui, he’s not the answer on a team of youngsters ready to take the next step.
Goodbye Andrew Walter — wish you were dealt a better hand here by Art and Kiffin.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Comment #43 I should have said draft pick number 4.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Dakota,
Maybe LMN was responsible for tracking that particular ship. LOL
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LOL, sadly for you guys, no… and btw, the crew were not following the guidelines…
just a few days ago, Dakota was “teasing” me with a british cargo ship… I said that wouldnt happen to us, Doh’
that said, the crew should have been further out from the coast line, and my junior colleague had told them, but either too late, or they wouldnt listen..
furthermore, they tried to “protect” the ship, thats a NO-NO, its just cargo, its food, let them take it, and because they tried to defend it, the captain was captured… and thats way worse…
we have been afraid of a situation like this, we all remember what happened to the americans in soma1ia in 1993.. we have feared that americans especially would be taken as hostages… thats why we mostly direct american crews westbound, but that cant always be so…
I hope we get the captain out alive, and save and sound.. at the moment there is a stand off, the “pirates” does not have a boat, so when BainBridge arrive they might be able to pressure them or negotiate..
remember a “pirate” isnt a terrorist, so companies always negotiate, the cargo is insured at Lloyds, so al that matters is the crew…
April 8th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
SnB, Burgess is fine? How the hell can you say that. He got worse every year and is in a contract year. Trade bait! They should have let him go last draft. Guy sucks
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I think if Burgess is healthy he can get sacks. He needs to line up on the right side though. Trevor Scott is an emerging talent that needs more time on the field. I wouldn’t use the pick on Orakpo because of these two on the roster.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Garbage-cia is a good backup but he hasnt had a very good pro career. He had a nip above decent pro career from what has been seen. One thing he can do is provide a spark off the bench better than Gradkowski, Tui or Walter. Russell was already on notice before we signed Garcia he needs to show it now
April 8th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Haha so Burgess should be our Base RDE? He isnt good enough and is scared to play on the right. If Burgess starts at RDE where does Scott play LDE? Nope because he is going up against the RT and will get bullied if they run. Both guys are situational. Burgess wont be healthy and he isnt that good. Sorry
April 8th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Typical, it is just food for starving people in Africa, let the pirates have it…its insured so don’t fight back, just hand it over like how Denmark handed their country over to Germany in WWII and then helped the Germans round up the J3ws!!!
April 8th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
I’m not a big orakpo fan as most know but hell who you gonna pick that will truly help you at 7 and start next year? I’d rather have Michael Johnson and he is a Al Davis type of pick. We need a real DE
April 8th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Dakota…
Close, LOL, here CEO’s do not comment, they only speak to the board =) LOL
if any should have said anything, it would be A.P. Møller-Mærsk’s Peter Beck-Bang…
but again, I dont handle so tiny vessels, mine is 10x that size.. and i was actually called in to help them out =)
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i dont know if this is interesting, to you guys, but my colleague just called the ship is under the crews control, the “pirates” left the ship with the captain, in one of the ships rescue-boats… he is at shore now…
this makes a huge difference, mostly to the bad side :/ because Nato cant land troops, if it was in international waters, we would have easier deal…
this is all about ransom size now, and the captains safety… Man im glad this isnt my area :/
April 8th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
LMN, do they teach being a puzzy in your schools, or is it just a genetic thing?
April 8th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
i kinda like rashad johnson safety
April 8th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
# Dakota Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Typical, it is just food for starving people in Africa, let the pirates have it…its insured so don’t fight back, just hand it over like how Denmark handed their country over to Germany in WWII and then helped the Germans round up the J3ws!!!
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get your facts straight, we saved thousands of j3ws.. israe1 tanks us yearly…. they should know..
April 8th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Haha so Burgess should be our Base RDE? He isnt good enough and is scared to play on the right. If Burgess starts at RDE where does Scott play LDE? Nope because he is going up against the RT and will get bullied if they run. Both guys are situational. Burgess wont be healthy and he isnt that good. Sorry
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Burgess and Scott should be lining up over the left tackle and focused on rushing the passer. Those two would platoon. On Nickle or clear passing downs I would have Scott on the right side and Burgess on teh left side.
THe Raiders have a DESPERATE need for a Base DE to line up over the RT. A guy around 285+ that can hold the point against the run yet is athletic enough to generate some pass rush.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Dell I honestly dont know much bout Mandeville. I ust research and learn about this guy. I remember last year reading about Trevor Scott but never thought we would take him
April 8th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
After we get Peppers, we trade Mike Huff to Dallas for DL Marcus Spears.
Over the past year, the Raiders and Cowboys have shopped Huff and Spears, this may be the best deal for both teams as Dallas needs to get better vs the pass and we struggle vs the run.
Spears (6′4 315) plays the run well and Huff’s coverage skills are very good for a Safety, they are the same age (26).
April 8th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Dell I honestly dont know much bout Mandeville. I ust research and learn about this guy. I remember last year reading about Trevor Scott but never thought we would take him
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Brien tell me about your TE, Bear Pascoe, is he similar to Miller or does he block better and can he play special teams.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
I’m not a big orakpo fan as most know but hell who you gonna pick that will truly help you at 7 and start next year? I’d rather have Michael Johnson and he is a Al Davis type of pick. We need a real DE
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Tyson Jackson is the only DE in the 1st round that could help the Raiders. Jarron Gilbert in the 2nd round is another base DE that would help.
Michael Johnson, Brian Orakpo, Everette Brown and Aaron Maybin are pass rushers. I would rather roll with Trevor Scott and see what he can do with a full season as a starter. Hell, he led all rookies in sacks and didn’t play half the snaps.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Rey at 7 is ideal but Al doesnt think LBs should go there and he love Kirk for some dumb reason. Rey instantly makes the run D better and scares opponents
April 8th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
LMN is suppose to be watching for Pirates.
Pirates = Raiders? Hmmmmmm.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Tyson Jackson is a 3-4 DE though and lacks pass rush skills. I wouldnt take him in the first round. You talk about not a good value for 7 with Rey but Tyson Jackson is much worse at 7th
April 8th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Al took Jano @ 17, so I wouldn’t say Rey is out of the relm of posibility. Marshall hasn’t gotten anything for his defense except a couple of backups.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Allright, now that we have added some talent on DL…
We can start Julius Peppers and Burguess at DE and Marcus Spears and Tommy Kelly inside, with Gerard Warren and Trevor Scott coming in on passing downs and Terdell Sands and Jay Richardson providing depth.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Can’t trust a pirate! What ever happened to honor at sea?
April 8th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
i was wondering what happened to him
April 8th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
brien stay tuned, we might go friday night for home opener,…but we goin fo sho next wednesday,..gonna be great, day game, icee cold beer,..and plenty of grass.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Brien — I thought you said you had backup for everything you say? Garcia hasn’t had a very good pro career?
Jeff Garcia’s career stats:
Games 124
Att 3,676 Comp 2,264 Pct 61.6
Yds 25,537 TD’s 161 INT’s 83 Rtg 87.5
I’d say a 10-year career, with a rating of 87.5, with a TD-to-INT rate of 2:1 is a pretty damn good career. Journeyman or not, put those stats on a team with talent, and you’ve got a chance to do some things.
Like I said Brien — Garcia’s not going to beat JaMarcus. But, he will show him how a real live professional QB needs to work HARD to excel in this league.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
SnB, I disagree with Johnson being only a pass rusher. He played the run above average and causes problems from either edge and can cover the tight end. Versatile player right there. He has a frame that will gain him 10-15 more pounds. Hell he put on 10 for the combine and pro day still not having a drop off. Great character guy whose dad is a military guy. Disciplined kid. I’d be juiced to take him
April 8th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Dakota
more like what happens at sea, stays at sea.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
ya 15 year fan,…little adam shefter couldnt help himself,..hes a joo,…he wanted more money then he needed, so hes gone,…by the way, im fine with taking Raji at 7.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
ya hayes, maybe garcia can show russell how to get a DUI.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
I agree we need a base DE but I can live with Richardson being starter at LDE. I want a real bad MFker to line up against the LT who can play both run n pass well. Burgess time has passed. He is declining fast. Scott can come in situational. I think that plan is better
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Jay Richardson is not a starter though. he’s a depth guy at best. The Raiders run defense is horrible. The two main culprits are the LDE and the NT. Those two positions on this current team don’t hold up against the run and don’t attract the double teams that can free up the linebackers.
As for the other side, the Raiders should see what they have in Trevor Scott.
“These eight young players should be the NFLs Breakout Stars in 2009″
From ESPM:
Trevor Scott, DT, Oakland Raiders
The Oakland Raiders, a team that has made more than its share of poor personnel choices in recent years, might have unearthed a gem in Trevor Scott. He looks like the real deal.
Expect the sixth-round pick in the 2008 draft to have a major role in Oakland in 2009. Scott is one of the most intriguing young pass-rushers in the NFL.
Through 14 games, Scott, a Buffalo product, had five sacks. That was only four fewer than the entire Kansas City defense had at that point in the season.
Scott was a surprise to make the Oakland roster, and his play during the season has been even more unexpected. He is a very active player who has a great burst. He consistently puts pressure on opposing quarterbacks.
At 6-foot-5, 255 pounds, Scott has a classic pass-rusher’s build. While he might be a situational player now, Scott has the look of a player who could develop into a Pro Bowl pass-rusher and become one of the league’s most dynamic sack artists into the next decade
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?page=predictions09/nfl
April 8th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Dakota: LOL
On a night when this blog’s been especially funny, post #15 is a good one.
Thanks for the laugh.
Time to turn in.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
SnB
The prior post by Jerry (chat) please read comment #5.
You take care,love your cmments.
April 8th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
# HayesDaze37 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Brien — I thought you said you had backup for everything you say? Garcia hasn’t had a very good pro career?
Jeff Garcia’s career stats:
Games 124
Att 3,676 Comp 2,264 Pct 61.6
Yds 25,537 TD’s 161 INT’s 83 Rtg 87.5
I’d say a 10-year career, with a rating of 87.5, with a TD-to-INT rate of 2:1 is a pretty damn good career. Journeyman or not, put those stats on a team with talent, and you’ve got a chance to do some things.
Like I said Brien — Garcia’s not going to beat JaMarcus. But, he will show him how a real live professional QB needs to work HARD to excel in this league.
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LOL and you read my post until the last sentence right? Did you miss the part about saying dont use stats? No you didnt I see. First off there was a reason he has bounced around from team to team and didnt get in the league to almost 30. Yeah he works hard and all but his talent isnt there as a very good pro. QB rating shyt is a new made up stat used by agents to garner more money for their clients. Stop and try again
April 8th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Brien the General 510 are you still on Scholarship?
April 8th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Like this piece of nonsense?
Norco Bob Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
ya hayes, maybe garcia can show russell how to get a DUI.
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Yeah, Norco — You’re the standard bearer for sober living. You should talk to your buddy MR more — as a struggling writer, he should be able to tell you sarcasm only works when the one using it has some credibility.
April 8th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Jeff Garcia is in Oakland for one reason, okay two,..the money, and Jeff absolutely loves the bay area,..can always find him in my beautiful hometown of San Jose,…I hate he was a niner, but love he was a Spartan,..like me….he will be a good boy on the sidelines, then hit the bars in San Jose at night,..not a bad gig…right brien?
April 8th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Go see what Gargabe-cia did against stout defenses with excellent players in his career. Not good at all. 2002-2002 he played well in the inferior NFC and when he came to man’s conference he was awful….very awful and they bounce him after one year. Remember the great detroit years? Where was his leadership then? Philly has a great organization from top to bottom and it wasnt difficult to see him succeeding there if he got a chance but he still not able to win a conference title. 2007 9-7 weak nfc south year lose at home and then blows to us at hom in week 17. I’m not calling that a very good career. It was a little above decent. Greatness is something he never can even sniff. Keep defending your pogo stick jumping qb
April 8th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Brien you want Ochocinco?
April 8th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Steve Wyche is much better then little adam shefter.
April 8th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
If 85 comes to Oakland I will buy an authentic Ochocinco jersey,..will someday be a collectors item.
April 8th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
666,Yeah this year ill be finishing with my B.S. in koolaidology with honors
April 8th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
tui and walter gone,..russell…garcia…gradkowski,..there ya have it.
April 8th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Ocho aint coming here I think but would be the funniest soundbites on the local news every week
April 8th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Bob that can work
April 8th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
brien you makin it to SJSU this year?…meet ya at the Spartan Pub!!!
April 8th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Brien — Don’t use stats?? What are they for? Is your opinion the only one the pro scouts use when looking for talent? Didn’t think so.
BTW — The GREAT Raider Ken Stabler’s career stats:
(14-years) TD: 194 Int: 222 Yds: 27,938 Rate: 75.3
Give Jeff Garcia the talent Stabler had, and who knows what his career would be like?
Your narrow-minded thinking is embarrassing, Brien.
April 8th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
SnB, I think you mistake that i like Scott alot but he is weak vs the run. Why couldnt Richardson start as base DE on left side? Burgess playing there makes the defense worse. But we do need an NT
April 8th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Bigotry is fun. Have a sense of humor
April 8th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Of course if I knew Norco Bob was leaving, I might have stayed.
WE WANT SHEFTER!
WE WANT SHEFTER!
WE WANT SHEFTER!
See ya!
April 8th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Dakota,
I was LMAO at the pictures. If Bynum plays, I’ll stay up tomorrow to watch it. We’ll need him because of the Cav’s home record.
Nuggets all the way this year baby
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Wow, did not know McDonald’s was having a special on them.
Chalk one up for the dude across the pond
April 8th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
# HayesDaze37 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Brien — Don’t use stats?? What are they for? Is your opinion the only one the pro scouts use when looking for talent? Didn’t think so.
BTW — The GREAT Raider Ken Stabler’s career stats:
(14-years) TD: 194 Int: 222 Yds: 27,938 Rate: 75.3
Give Jeff Garcia the talent Stabler had, and who knows what his career would be like?
Your narrow-minded thinking is embarrassing, Brien.
Stats are for accountants. Spare me the scout shyt because they are wrong alot. Ha using Ken Stabler is so weak and is the thing that is EMBARRASSING! Stabler played against and beat the stout competition of his day and was the last guy in the world you wanted with the ball at the e nd of the game and is a superbowl champion who would have had more if the Raiders didnt get job in 77. TRY TRY TRY TRY again
April 8th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Garbage-cia has little talent and Stabler was a highly decorated QB coming out of college and the era was different and not soft like today’s!!!
April 8th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Brien<—–registration or not I will continue to whip ass
Go ahead Hayes, go pull up someone else’s words from a link. That is what most morons do on here anyways lol
April 8th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Do you forget Garbage-cia only ever got to play because the great Aeneas Williams made Steve Young count in 99? Great night that was! Be serious Stabler was groomed to take over for the Great Daryl Lamonica! This isnt even coming from your mouth is it?
April 8th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Steve Young was counting in english, spanish and chinese lol. Counting them sheep…….BAMMMMMMMMM
April 8th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Of course if I knew Norco Bob was leaving, I might have stayed.
WE WANT SHEFTER!
WE WANT SHEFTER!
WE WANT SHEFTER!
See ya!
Bob rules and enjoy your LA Chargers coming back to their true home soon!
April 8th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
And what’s your argument? That a guy I already said was a journeyman QB is a journeyman QB? Pick another journeyman QB playing right now then, and compare his stats to Garcia’s. As a #2 QB goes, the Raiders added the guy largely considered the best backup QB in the league. That’s not a bad thing!
You’re a brilliant debater, Brien. A masterdebator as a matter-of-fact. Your “backup” is nothing but an uneducated opinion you use to defend silly arguments. No substance. You’re simply a brick wall when it comes to having a cogent, give-and-take debate.
April 8th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Yep Hayes…..outta be your usual interesting self as the futile attempt to defend yourself is waiting lol
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Huh?? Was that a sentence? What does it mean? Need I write out the alphabet so you can see what real letters look like?
Yeah, Brien — You keep kickin’ azz in here!
April 8th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Hayes now you are reaching. Your futile attempts to defend are in waiting. You havent said one thing to defend yourself. You just keep taking the beatdown due to your Garbage-cia crush. Sorry sir but if you dont like I dont know what to tell ya cuz there isnt a damn thing you can do about it on this blog or in person
April 8th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
[...] Hold it on Maclin For what its worth, a source familiar with Missouri wide receiver Jeremy Maclin says there are no plans in place to visit Oakland, contrary to a report on Raiderbeat.com and picked up by Profootballtalk.com. The report cited confirmation from a team official, which ordinarily means something which has been cleared to be made public by either John Herrera or Mike Taylor. Not so in this case, because the Raiders havent publicly confirmed a single visitor to the complex with regard to prospective draft picks. It doesnt mean a Maclin visit isnt happening, only that Raiders officials wont confirm it as a matter of record and that a source familiar with Maclin said Wednesday a trip wasnt scheduled. Most important, whether Maclin sets foot on 1120 Harbor Bay Parkway isnt of much help in determining the Raiders level of interest Source [...]
April 8th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Maclin=zzzzzzzzzz. God I dan sure dont want a spread offense WR that high. Will do nada in 09. We need a guy..no two maybe three that can start in 2009
April 8th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
So far this off-season:
QB-solidified
WR-most likely lost Carter, Lelie and Curry
TE-no change
OL-saturation bombing at almost every position
RB-already solid, no changes
FB-Lost Griffith, OO still shaky to start
DL-lost Edwards, signed scrubs
LB-lost Thomas
S-lost Baker
CB-already solid, no changes
Seems like the offense is in need of a WR, TE, FB and one solid LT.
The defense needs D-line and Safety help, also some more depth at linebacker.
That’s at least 7 positions to fill with 5 draft picks and some UDFA’s
My guess is:
1. Michael Crabtree (WR)
2. Jamon Meredith (LT)
3. Chip Vaughn (SS)
4. Kyle Moore (DE)
7. Jason Phillips (MLB)
UDFA. Anthony Hill (TE)
UDFA. Frank Summers (FB)
UDFA. Adrian Grady (DT)
UDFA. Ernest Mitchell (DT)
I hope that they take Jarron Gilbert or Robert Ayers in the 2nd, but that would probably require one of the elite LT’s falling to them in the first round.
April 8th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Hey Brien — I know it won’t matter to a superior brain like yours, but here are some fairly comparable stats to Garcia’s from a CURRENT player:
Gms 134 Att 4,303 Comp 2,534 Pct 58.9
Yds 29,320 TD’s 194 INT’s 90 Rating 85.9
He hasn’t won a championship either, but I know about 25-teams that would love to have this guy during his career. The player? Donovan McNabb. Would he have been good for the Raiders? Nahhh.
I guess you win, Brien. Stats mean nothing, and you’re obviously right about what makes a good pro career.
April 8th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
BBB, if no RDE,NT and true MLB is found for 09 the D is still is deep doo doo
April 8th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Yeah they might be in it deep next year, cuz I just don’t see Al going after any of those positions with the first three picks (with the exception of Gilbert and Ayers in the 2nd that I mentioned)
April 8th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
McNaab drafted in first round, played all years for same team and has been winning play games for years and coming back from injuries like a warrior. Did you not see his Warrior performances this past season? The guy who did get to a conference titles and a super bowl. Garbage-cia ever had any real elite teams? McNaab has. Haha you are trying to use stats to comapare Garbage-cia to actually great QBs. Its comedy hour in here. It is quite sad for you to keep going to internet site after internet site to help you out. This isnt a college essay, you dont have to cite your sources. Speak from your own mind, if you can.
April 8th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Maclin=zzzzzzzzzz. God I dan sure dont want a spread offense WR that high. Will do nada in 09. We need a guy..no two maybe three that can start in 2009
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Spot on! Regardless of who is drafted, they need a couple of guys that will make a difference in ‘09. No development guys or guys that are hurt or guys that need to wait for a veteran to move on.
After the kickoff return on Monday Night against San Diego, the announcers voice better come over saying:
“and here’s the starters on the Raiders (offense/defense) rookie(s) “insert name(s)” had a great camp and is/are expected to be a big contributors this year. 1st and 10…..
April 8th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
BBB then the trouble shall continue. Morrison at MLB isnt working. Warren/Sands as NT? Undersized Scott or Non pass rusher Richardson at RDE? You know bitch ass Burgess wants to play LDE
April 8th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
I agree on Maclin, drafting him would be a major disappointment for this team. If Crabtree is gone, we can wait until the 2nd to get a new WR.
April 8th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
SnS, your guess is as good as mines on that note. I guess april 25th all the speculation and debate shall end. Sad thing Hayes Garbage=cia cl*t licking wont end
April 8th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Brien,
If I hear from Jerry that Burgess is starting on the left side at mini-camps, I am tuning out until 2010. There is no excuse for having that clown covering the strong-side on 1st and 2nd downs.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
BBB, maclin isnt doing squat for us in 09. Spread offense WR that high is nuts! There are much better options. The 2010 uncapped year is coming and Al better be ready. Trade down is the best move
April 8th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
# BART Bridge Blues Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Brien,
If I hear from Jerry that Burgess is starting on the left side at mini-camps, I am tuning out until 2010. There is no excuse for having that clown covering the strong-side on 1st and 2nd downs.
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LOL BBB, you should have heard the clowns last summer trying to get on me about strongside and weakside and I explained Burgess plays against the strongside. Glad to see you know whats up. Anyway, Burgess at LDE makes no sense at any level. He hurts the run defense as well as other factors. Burgess has made me sick since his 2nd year here
April 8th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Burgess is one dimensional and injured. Why is this guy in 09 plans? We must still be on this buddy system and not concerned with winning
April 8th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
If John Marshall is as good as some of these people are saying, then there is no way Burgess lines up on the left side except on 3rd and long. Burgess is a light pass rushing DE…I am sort of with Bart on this one, if Burgess is lining up on the left side then that means the Raiders didn’t bother drafting a Base DE. That will mean more of the same from the run defense.
And since when does the player decide where he plays. He’ll play where the coaches tell him to and if he don’t like it….move him along. Scott should be starter on the right side anyway
April 8th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
yo LMN….
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090408/ap_on_re_af/piracy
April 8th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
I agree 100% I have been saying it all along Brien.
Trading down is really the only option as there are way to many holes to fill defensively.
DT/NT DE MLB S…
April 8th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
FREE DIRTY!!!
sup Brien??
April 8th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Burgess is one dimensional and injured. Why is this guy in 09 plans? We must still be on this buddy system and not concerned with winning
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Its that same B.S that has Fargas getting all the carries. Allows Sands and Kelly to come in out of shape and has taught bad habits to the quarterback.
Coaches need to lead this year more than ever. Players are paid to play where their boss, who are the coaches, tell them too.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
SnB scott may be too light to be a base DE. I like him though but we need to still draft a young DE to be his bookend for years
April 8th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
SnB 158
I guess that would have applied to M Bush playing fullback last year, god forbid.
Burgess, I think has always played over there, throughout his career.
But I think they’re thinking to get contract yr production out of him this year, then he can go.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
SnB scott may be too light to be a base DE. I like him though but we need to still draft a young DE to be his bookend for years
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He’s 255lb. Hopefully he can put on about 10 lbs and maintain his speed. I really don’t have a problem with him on the right side. Could he get us 8 to 10 sacks full-time? Is he durable enough? I’d like to find out before spending a #7 pick on Orakpo or Everette Brown.
If the Raiders don’t draft a 285+ lb DE in this draft, then the defense will come be 30 something against the run again.
The Giants added two or three lineman to their roster and Osi Umenyora is coming back. The Raiders better do some serious work with its D-Line this year.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Kell why not get a 3rd rounder at least for burgess so the lost wont sting as bad next year?
April 8th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
SnB 158
I guess that would have applied to M Bush playing fullback last year, god forbid.
Burgess, I think has always played over there, throughout his career.
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It applies to Bush as well. Put him on the field as FB. What’s he going to do? Say no. If they tell Terdell Sands to line up at cornerback, he has to do it.
As for Burgess, the reason he probably gets banged up a lot is getting mauled against Right Tackles, Fullbacksa and Tight Ends. He just doesn’t belong over there.
If he insists playing the other side then trade or release him. He’s not helping the team over there.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
As a Raiders fan living in Austin it’s hard to deny the list of underachievers. That being said there are some really good prospects from Texas that were less heralded and have made an impact.
Lyle Sendelein – starting center for Arizona
Priest Holmes – retired; previously undrafted
Shawn Rogers – pro-bowl D-tackle
Orakpo is the “real deal”. He’s got the work ethic and drive to be special. That being said, if we can’t stop the run a pass rusher isn’t going to do a lot for us.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Yadda thizz it 408?
April 8th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
You think anybody would give up a 3rd rounder for Burgess in the last year of his contract? I don’t know. They don’t have a replacement on the roster, Rome wasn’t built in a day.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
SnB, I just like the idea of having Michael Johnson on this defense. At 6=7 266 lbs will get bigger and present problems for LTs and RTs. He is quite versatile
April 8th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Kell, if a team doesnt get the DE they want, a gamble play for Burgess would be in order. They at least know they will get alot out of him this year.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
But I think if the Raiders can fix their run defense, they’re good to go.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Johnson has to learn to play the run just a bit better but does make alot of plays behind the line of scrimmage. He bats down passes alot, cause fumbles and can cover the tight end. I’m high on this guy
April 8th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Kell, of course! We just gotta find the right dlinen,lbs and sceme to make it work. Tall task
April 8th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Anyways yall. Time to get to go Chase aka Washington Mutual lol before 6pm. Transactions are abound
April 8th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Take care and most of all JUST WIN!
April 8th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Brian,
Problem with Michael Johnson is that he is considered more a work out warrior and less as a good football player. Say he was terribly inconsistent in college and doesn’t play as tough as his metric dictate.
Michael Johnson
Strengths:
Has a large rangy frame with extremely long arms…Outstanding athleticism…Great speed…Quick and agile…Terrific range…Explosive with a burst…Does a nice job in pursuit and closes in a hurry…Great leaper and will bat down passes…A terror off the edge…Has shown the ability to make impact plays…Decent production…Has a ton of upside.
Weaknesses:
Lean with average bulk…Isn’t very strong, tough or physical…Has a terrible motor…Will get manhandled at times…Almost a non-factor against the run…Is not stout at the point and gets pushed around…Sub par instincts…Runs himself out of plays…Limited experience…Plays with poor leverage…Intensity and commitment have been questioned.
Notes:
Was a backup who entered the game in passing situations his first three seasons with the Yellow Jackets and didn’t start until his senior year
April 8th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Is there any front 7 player worth the #7 other than Raji, Curry?
April 8th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Hey ya’ll. Everybody catch the Garcia interview on Sirius yesterday? Jason Jones has a transcript at http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/raiders/
Garcia: “Well, I think it’s already being established right now. I’m up here in Oakland right now taking part in the quarterback school with Jamarcus and Bruce Gradkowski and we’re working on just the fundamentals of playing the position, the leadership qualities that you have to have, the work ethic, getting in the weight room. I think JaMarcus, being able to see how myself and how Bruce work as far as what we do in the classroom, what we do in the weight room and what we do on the field, it’s something positive for him to see.
Hope Jamaurcus listens to him and Hackett, could jump to the next level if he does.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
We can try to break down how Michael Huff will look under Marshall by looking at the Safeties for the Seahawks Defense over the last 3 years that Marshall has coached them.
2008
SS – Deon Grant
60 Tackles, 2 Interceptions, 8 Passes Defensed
FS – Brian Russell
53 Tackles, 0 Interceptions, 3 Passes Defensed, 1 FF
In Comparison
FS – Michael Huff
19 Tackles, 0 Interceptions, 5 Passes Defensed
2007
SS – Deon Grant
65 Tackles, 3 Interceptions, 10 Passes Defensed, 1 FR
FS – Brian Russell
60 Tackles, 1 Interception, 6 Passes Defensed, 1 FR
In Comparison
SS – Michael Huff
74 Tackles, 1 Interception, 11 Passes Defensed, 1 FF, 1 FR
2006
SS – Michael Boulware
32 Tackles, 2 Interceptions, 6 Passes Defensed, 1 FF, 1 FR
FS – Ken Hamlin
75 Tackles, 3 Interceptions, 11 Passes Defensed, 1 FF
In Comparison
SS – Michael Huff
64 Tackles, 0 Interceptions, 1 Passes Defensed
I think Huff’s 2nd year stats compare nicely to all the stats listed under Marshall’s defense in terms of effectiveness. To me, Huff is more talented than the guy’s listed above with the exception of maybe Ken Hamlin.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
17 Bob Trey 0 – Funny how Andrew Walter was never mentioned in that group of QB’s.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
KoolKell – In my opinion…Maualuga.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Is there any front 7 player worth the #7 other than Raji, Curry?
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Tyson Jackson….But he would be a little bit of a reach. Jackson has been rated as high as 9 to the Packers so you never know. I think Orakpo, Brown, Maybin are not guys the Raiders need. So I would say Curry, Raji, T. Jackson are the only defensive names the Raiders better hear at #7.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
I heard someone say the Raiders play their safeties deeper than anybody in the NFL.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
You got a little scouting report on Jackson?
April 8th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
People are down on Gholston but Rex Ryan has ahold of him now. He might look like Terrell Suggs this next season.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Tyson Jackson
Height: 6-41/8 | Weight: 296 | 40-Time: 4.95
Official Bio
Strengths:
Outstanding size and bulk…Has a big frame with long arms and large hands…Powerful with excellent strength…Tough and physical…Good athleticism…Quick with a burst…Uses his hands well…Can really hold his ground…Terrific bull rusher…Offers a lot of versatility…Has a lot of experience against elite competition… Hard worker … Team leader.
Weaknesses:
Average timed speed…Motor is inconsistent…Questionable instincts and awareness…Needs to do a better job of shedding blocks…Doesn’t change directions well…Has some trouble in space…Not a threat off the edge…Just an average pass rusher and won’t rack up a lot of sacks.
Notes:
Full name is Anthony Tyson Jackson…Was a three-year starter in the SEC…Twice named 2nd Team All-SEC (’06 & ‘07)…Best fit will most likely come as a five-technique in a 3-4 scheme but could also play end or tackle in a 4-3 front as well…Has drawn the inevitable comparisons to Marcus Spears, another former Bayou Bengal who was the 20th overall pick in the 2005 NFL Draft…An impressive physical specimen who is highly adaptable…Figures to be a coveted prospect because he is so unlike any of the other top defensive ends available in this draft.
Career Statistics
Year GP TKL TFL SACK
2004 RS - - -
2005 13 12 1.0 1.0
2006 13 37 13.0 10.0
2007 14 36 7.0 4.0
2008 13 36 10.5 4.5
Totals 53 121 31.5 19.5
April 8th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
I would much rather have a DE with size and talent that can hold his end of the bargain during the pass and the run instead of a lightweight who can only rush the passer.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
24,
Yeah, noticed that too. Wouldn’t be surprised if Walters has checked out after the Garcia signing. If getting bumped down last year did’nt kill any spirit he had left.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
KoolKell – The Raiders play 1 Deep Safety. They always stack the box with 8, get pushed around and miss the tackles and the RB runs into the open field with the FS the only guy in site and the field is too damn big for a guy going full speed.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Heres another big guy who’s becoming popular.
Jarron Gilbert
Height: 6-51/4 | Weight: 288 | 40-Time: 4.87
Official Bio
Strengths:
Good size with a large frame and long arms…Very athletic…Extremely quick…Terrific natural strength and power…Big, strong hands…Nice balance and agility…Is able to penetrate and make plays in the backfield…Decent range and pursues well…Smart with good instincts and awareness…Offers positional and schematic versatility…Reliable tackler…Decent production…Is still improving and has a lot of upside.
Weaknesses:
Inconsistent…Bit of a classic ‘tweener…Needs to be more physical and aggressive…Doesn’t use his hands well…Has some trouble shedding blocks…Needs to use better leverage…Not a great technician…Motor runs hot and cold…Immature ?…Did not always face elite competition.
Notes:
Could play defensive tackle in a 4-3 scheme or be a five-technique defensive end in a 3-4 and some have even raised the possibility of moving him to offensive tackle…Father Daren played offensive tackle for the New Orleans Saints from 1985-88…Weighed about 240 pounds when he began college…Redshirted in 2004…Played defensive end his first 2 1/2 years with the Spartans before moving inside to defensive tackle as a junior…Was 2nd Team All-WAC in 2007…Had a breakout senior campaign and saw his draft stock soar…Named 1st Team All-WAC and was the conference’s Co-Defensive Player of the Year in 2008…Became a YouTube sensation with this clip of him jumping out of a swimming pool…Was one of the stars of the East / West Shrine Game…Similar in some ways to guys like Ikaika Alama-Francis and Jason Jones…A very intriguing prospect with all of the physical tools that you look for..Still a little raw but has all the potential in the world.
Career Statistics
Year GP TKL TFL SACK
2004 RS - - -
2005 11 22 5.0 3.0
2006 13 32 7.5 5.0
2007 12 38 7.5 4.0
2008 12 52 22.0 9.5
Totals 48 147 42.0 21.5
April 8th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Is there any front 7 player worth the #7 other than Raji, Curry?
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no.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Jarron Gilbert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXDSPbZ_OUw
April 8th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Looks like Raji may be the better choice. Thanks, 24.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
“Potential” has ruined the raiders in the past, lets draft achievers with football skills instead of athletes with promise.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Nice Read on Jason’s blog. well at least we know Russell is in Oakland, and not at his mother’s bedside.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
No Prob!
April 8th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-elwaysson&prov=ap&type=lgns
John Elway’s son is a baby! Haha.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Lynn from Snot Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
“Potential” has ruined the raiders in the past, lets draft achievers with football skills instead of athletes with promise.
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I hope Davis realizes this as well. The Raiders need to find 2 solid starters this year that make the little plays. Like a DE that holds the point on the run, a DT that takes up two blockers, an OT that doesn’t jump offsides and makes the block. A receiver that has good hands and runs the doggone route correctly.
Stop going for the homerun hitters like DEs that have blazing speed but can’t tackle, DTs that occasionally penetrate but can’t clog the middle, WRs that run 4.2 in a straight line but won’t go over the middle and make the tough catch.
no more height/weight/speed guys. Time for football players
April 8th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Amen Brother
April 8th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
24 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-elwaysson&prov=ap&type=lgns
John Elway’s son is a baby! Haha.
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Kid is stupid. If you’ve got a chance to play big time sports you gotta take it. Beats working a real job for a living
April 8th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
We should probably just draft players that are going to become Pro Bowlers. That would fix alot of the problems.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
24 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Jarron Gilbert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXDSPbZ_OUw
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If the Raiders are smart, they could end up with Raji and Gilbert as additions to this defense.
Those additions alone could get the defense to respectable, if not average.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
SnB Defense – Work? I bet Jack Elway is well taken care of by his father. He’s probably become lazy knowing he can live at his dad’s house for the rest of his life.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
John Elway’s son is a baby! Haha. Who could live up to standards of being the son of John Elway. Not many. At least his step mom is a raiderette..WOO HOO
April 8th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Jay Cutler has a better arm than Elway just ask him.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
24 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
SnB Defense – Work? I bet Jack Elway is well taken care of by his father. He’s probably become lazy knowing he can live at his dad’s house for the rest of his life.
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That’s true….Forgot about that angle. But seriously, I would love to go back to school and play ball again. You kidding me.
He just doesn’t want to work. I admit getting up at 5AM is a drag and practice can be too, especially when your friends are just getting back from clubbing etc….but playing ball is great and trumps anything else in college life. Plus, playing competitive ball is something that you can only do for a few years.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Its strange how all of the Broncos and Chargers QB’s act like babies.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Living up to that must be tough, or trying to. I think John Elway is the best all-round QB I ever saw.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
WalterFootball dot com says:
“Surprise! I’ve had B.J. Raji going here (#7)for a number of updates, but in the wake of Michael Johnson’s Pro Day, I’m penciling in the athletic Georgia Tech defensive end into the No. 7 slot.
Look, it’s no secret that Al Davis loves 40 times. Johnson ran an unofficial 4.49 at his Pro Day. A giddy Davis probably had him at 3.39; he’s obsessed with athleticism, and that’s one of the reasons I’ve changed this selection, despite Johnson’s work ethic.
The other reason? Al Davis’ draft history. I reviewed all the selections he has made in the past 30 years. In that span, Davis has taken a defensive tackle in the first round only twice – Darrell Russell in 1997, and he ran a 4.8 at 320 pounds. Meanwhile, he has chosen defensive ends four times in the opening round, the most recent being Tyler Brayton, who had the third-fastest 40 time among the players at his position in 2003. Terrell Suggs and Jerome McDougle were quicker, but were both off the board by the time Oakland picked at No. 31.”
April 8th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Hey, I’m glad we will never have to face the spawn of Elway. Although running into his dad in the parking lot would be fun.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
KoolKell same with Micheal Jordon’s son did you see he wasn’t that highly recruited and now he is at Central Florida.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
SnB Defense – I definately wish I would have played my cards differently regarding football but I wasn’t ready for it. More than anything, I wasn’t ready for school and you couldn’t play football without the grades so I struggled big time. I played 1 year of Pop Warner, my Freshman year of High School and I went to Training Camp every year, only to dip out because of one thing or another. Also…I hated jocks. I wasn’t into those groups that thought they were bigger than the world. It never felt like a “team” because people were always selfish and about themselves and I just couldn’t hang with that.
If I knew what I knew today…I would have been able to shrug that off my shoulders and deal with the problems at face value but I wasn’t ready for that then. Luckily, I ran track my Junior year and ran the 100, 200 and the 4×100 Relay so I was one of the fastest guys and it felt like I finally accomplished something regarding sports. Then I effed up my grades again and couldn’t run the next year. I had to focus on graduating and that I did.
I feel 2 ways. I was simply not big enough for the sport. I stand 5′7 1/2 and 160 lbs. I’m athletic build but I’d have to put on 30-40lbs of muscle in order to compete on the field and look like Maurice Jones-Drew while maintaining my speed. On top of that, I’m white. Does anybody see any white guys at my size getting into the NFL? I think not. On the other hand, playing football beats the hell out of you. I currently have minor injuries that I can live with. I can’t imagine feeling what football players feel after 10 years. They can hardly walk anymore. I hurt now, I can’t imagine hurting more.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Nice job 24. Thanks!
April 8th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Montana’s kid is also working his way up. I think hes still in High School at the moment. Theres going to be alot of big names coming out in the next couple of years.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
210. Man, you take a beating. Check out poor Earl the Pearl Campbell. He’s **** near crippled.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Nnamdi21 – For what?
April 8th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
24 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Montana’s kid is also working his way up. I think hes still in High School at the moment. Theres going to be alot of big names coming out in the next couple of years.
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yeah thats crazy. Thats hwne you know you’re starting to get olde. Your heros kids start coming of age…
April 8th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Eho do you guys think is better, Elway or Montana.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
SilverNBlack666 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
WalterFootball dot com says:
“Surprise! I’ve had B.J. Raji going here (#7)for a number of updates, but in the wake of Michael Johnson’s Pro Day, I’m penciling in the athletic Georgia Tech defensive end into the No. 7 slot.
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For what its worth…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2009_pre_season
April 8th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Montana by far. Montana – 4 Superbowls – 4 Wins.
Elway – 5 Superbowls – 2 Wins.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Who do you guys think is better, Elway, Montana, or Marino?
April 8th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Montana by far. Montana – 4 Superbowls – 4 Wins.
Elway – 5 Superbowls – 2 Wins.
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Elway had Dan Reeves holding him back and Montana had Walsh
April 8th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Marino never won the big game. Its hard to say hes the best. Great statistician.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Hey…49ers vs. Broncos in Superbowl XXIV led to a 55-10 whooping over the Broncos. You can say whatever you want about Head Coaches but Head to Head…Montana beat Elway.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
I liked Marino, too bad he never one 1.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Marino was a great passer, but he couldn’t run, at all.
Montana, played in the avant garde West Coast offense, surrounded by HOF’rs
Elway was a great passer, carried that team for years all by himself, and you had to have a 2×4 to get him to the ground.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
The Broncos went to the Superbowl 3 out of 4 years. They might as well be the Buffalo Bills with Marv Levy as Head Coach.
Superbowl XXI – Broncos 20 Giants 39
Superbowl XXII – Broncos 10 Redskins 42
Superbowl XXIV – Broncos 10 49ers 55
The Broncos scored 40 points in 3 Superbowls. Go Elway!
April 8th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Plus, we had to face Elway twice a year. He was a tough guy.
If Russell learns when to take off, he’ll look a lot like Elway. Because that fastball of theirs is unstoppable.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
If anyone ever watched any Donkey game during the Elway era they would see something over and over again if they paid attention. Every time Horseteeth would drop back to pass during one of those much-lauded comeback drives, his linemen would be holding or tackling any pass rusher getting close to him as he moved around with never a flag. Never. There for all to see. Not ever a holding penalty.
Helluva an advantage for a QB.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
24,
I am with you. I wish I played a different hand too. Much rather be sitting in a room studying QB film then sitting at this desk shuffling paper and sitting through mindless meetings talking about B.S……..
If I owned a team, I would make all my players work a real job somewhere for 2 wks so that they appreciated what they were getting.
The idea that a player can’t attend workouts or stay in shape when they make all that money and get to do something they want to is ridiculous. Those athletes should treat it like a full time job 12 months a year.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
KK makes a great Point. Marino was a great passer, but he couldn’t run for a yard. Elway didn’t win without TD, who did Marino have?
April 8th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
I just realized we can make the box we type in bigger. For those who don’t know or aren’t savvy in this modern world of technology…click the bottom right corner of the box you type in and drag outwards. TADA! Look…it took me awhile ok? It happens.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
When Russell becomes a star attraction to the NFL, he’ll get the star treatment as well. As long as Al Davis doesn’t file any more lawsuits against the league.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
Marino, Elway, Montana….just switch teams.
Marino or Elway in SF, under Bill Walsh and with those teams, would have won 6 Super Bowls instead of the 4 Montana won.
Montana would have been a good QB in Miami and Denver but he wouldn’t have a single ring and would not be considered in the Hall of Fame right now.
Dan Marino is the best QB I have ever seen, Elway was pretty special as well but always had some consistency issues, Montana was in the right place at the right time.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
How do you get a gig like the one run run Jones had? that is my dream job.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Football fans wanted the Elway comebacks, and the media loved him. Maybe as much as M Jordan.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
SilverNBlack666 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
WalterFootball dot com says:
“Surprise! I’ve had B.J. Raji going here (#7)for a number of updates, but in the wake of Michael Johnson’s Pro Day, I’m penciling in the athletic Georgia Tech defensive end into the No. 7 slot.
Look, it’s no secret that Al Davis loves 40 times. Johnson ran an unofficial 4.49 at his Pro Day. A giddy Davis probably had him at 3.39; he’s obsessed with athleticism, and that’s one of the reasons I’ve changed this selection, despite Johnson’s work ethic.
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The writer basically thinks Al Davis is stupid. Why would the Raiders reach at #7 for a Defensive End that is a projected 2nd or 3rd rounder. I think he is making his point about Davis’ focus on speedy players.
Michael Johnson is a boom or bust type player. And while I like Cable, historically, the Raiders coaching staff isn’t very good at coaching up players.
They need to take the boring player that’s ready to play
April 8th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
SnB Defense – Worst of all…sitting at the desk shuffling paper and sitting through mindless meetings talking about B.S. after playing football through college and blowing both of your knees out after being so close to getting into the NFL Draft. This has become a reality for many people in different scenarios. I’m happy to at least have my health for the most part.
Speaking of owning a team. I’m 26 and I see Jed York at 27, running the 49ers. WTF? Why couldn’t I have just been handed that life?
Remember…when you get beat up in the NFL and you go home to a mansion with everything you’ve ever wanted sitting in it and a hot wife and a chef and a maid and tons of money. I can understand how someone could get a little lazy. Haha. The love for football is great but the love for freedom has to be even greater.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Did Marino have any Quality RBs? I can’t remember? KK, do you know?
April 8th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
24,
True. I guess nothing ventured nothing gained though. I guess for the guys that get that opportunity whether its baseball, basketball, football, golf or tennis, you would think that they would embrace it and not do anything to jeapordize what they have (drugs, police arrests, out of shape, ticking off the coach etc…) but like anything else, once you have it you get used to it.
I probably don’t appreciate what longterm pain is since I never suffered a serious injury playing sports.
But man, I hate shuffling paper….
April 8th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
24,
You played Ball at College? !
April 8th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
I’ve seen Johnny Unitas & Joe Namath at the Coliseum. Marino reminds me of Namath, a fiery competitive great passer. But neither could make a play with his legs. But neither took many sacks either. But all-round, I take Elway. He had nobody before TD, and carried that team to 4 Super Bowls, over around and through Oakland.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Raider O,
Dan Marino played on teams WITH NO DEFENSE! The defenses he played with couldn’t stop the run or the pass. Lessons that the Raiders better heed.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
KK,
Who played RB with Marino?c
April 8th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Raider O
I think Marino, at the beginning with Shula, had a good running game, but really I can’t remember right now. But he had two great WR’s
April 8th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
SnB Defense – Get a different job.
One thing that has always bugged me is how someone can actually make it to the NFL, as difficult as that is, and they completely fuk it up ala Pacman Jones. I mean, come on. Its nearly impossible for me to make it to the NFL but this guy has incredible ability that has carried him from probably nowhere to somewhere and he throws it all away. This doesn’t apply to everyone but you can take the Pacman out of the Ghetto but you can’t take the ghetto out of the Pacman. My question is…why not? Wouldn’t you start thinking more clearly and act a little more humble for all the hard work you put in?
April 8th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
I know he didn’t have a Defense, but who did he have for a RB? You guys can’t remember!!
April 8th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
KK,
His WRs were great, both of them.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Raider O – No college ball. Pop Warner and freshman year in High School. Played Track as well. I would have been sitting on pine if I would have played in college. I’m a 5′7 1/2 160lb white guy and thats me at 26 years old. I went to the Military weighing 147lbs and left basic training weighing 132lbs haha.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Raider O Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
I know he didn’t have a Defense, but who did he have for a RB? You guys can’t remember!!
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I remember Sammie Smith was there and Bobby Humphrey
April 8th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
As I remember, Marino didn’t plaw well the first few seasons. It took him a few years.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
In 1984 the Dolphins went 14-2. Tony Nathan was RB
April 8th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia/lineups.htm
Dolphins roster over the years.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
24 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
SnB Defense – Get a different job.
One thing that has always bugged me is how someone can actually make it to the NFL, as difficult as that is, and they completely fuk it up ala Pacman Jones. I mean, come on. Its nearly impossible for me to make it to the NFL but this guy has incredible ability that has carried him from probably nowhere to somewhere and he throws it all away. This doesn’t apply to everyone but you can take the Pacman out of the Ghetto but you can’t take the ghetto out of the Pacman. My question is…why not? Wouldn’t you start thinking more clearly and act a little more humble for all the hard work you put in?
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My guess is that for many elite athletes, the sports comes relatively easy for them. They almost expected to be in NFL/NBA/MLB from high school on. So I don’t think they take their place in society very seriously.
Rarely do you see the player that had to bust a$$ just to stay on the team screwing up like that.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Raider O – I always heard Marino came running out of the gates. Was great the minute he touched the field.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
SnB Defense – True.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MariDa00.htm
Dan Marino had 48 TD’s in his 2nd year and was the record until Manning beat it like 4 years ago.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Thx 24, also LMAO on the prev post. 5′8 140- 160, can you kick?!
April 8th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
I forgot about Kareem Abdul Jabar the running back. Still, Marino got stuck with some lousy defenses. Also had the misfortune of playing in the AFC during the Jim Kelly Buffalo years.
Elway suffered from spotty defenses for years too.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Even Marino’s yards of 5,084 still stands as Drew Brees got close this last season but wasn’t able to beat the record if I recall.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Raider O – I’m terrible but I’m willing to learn haha.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
I remember Bobby H now that you said his name, he was good.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
You might be thinking of Elway. He wasn’t worth a damn at first.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Then you look a Darren McFadden, he comes out of a gang-infested HOUSE. But by all accounts he’s a good kid, trying to get away from it.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Some athletes see sports as a means to get away from the problems in their life and those guys are the humble.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
So he did well his 2nd season, I was wrong. I’m still young, but having kids killed my memory. I’m too focused on them.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Kids?…I’m having issues with the dog my girl got. I can’t even imagine kids right now.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
His real name is…
Daniel Constantine Marino Jr.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
24 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
SnB Defense – True.
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May also play a role in why JaMarcus Russell’s study habits have been a little lacking. He’s always been the dominant talent and playing in the SEC on one of the best teams, JaMarcus, and is teammates, were rarely challenged.
I think that’s why a lot players from Northern Schools and lower tiered schools tend to do better. Notice how there aren’t very many SEC/Big 12 QBs that excel in NFL. You see no QBs from places like Alabama and Florida/Florida State. You basically have the Mannings and Cutler. And Cutler played at undermanned Vanderbilt.
Russell has tremendous talent and I think having Garcia will help him. But a lot of these players from the big southern conferences end up busting out in the pros. Rex Grossman is still looking for a job.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
I also liked Simms, he was a tough SOB. Going at with BP on the sidelines was great. But he had a great Defense. LT was nasty.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Tampa Bay Rays play good baseball. Laying down bunts and timely hitting. Focused on fundamentals. I hope Cable brings that to Oakland this year.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
I think Peyton Manning played at one of those SEC schools, no?
April 8th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
I got married when I was your age 24.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
I got married when I was your age 24. I also have a dog. Mini pin.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
SnB Defense – Well…You seem to have a good feel for the college game. I don’t know why but I’ve never been able to get into the college game despite loving football. I LOVE the NFL and I have trouble getting past that. College changes so often and alot of the players don’t have names on their backs so its hard to follow. I mainly follow the players once I know they’re headed to the NFL. Theres too many games, too many players too many bowl games. I’m getting more interested each year and I’m a Notre Dame fan so having an NFL coach become my Head Coach there helps as well.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Manning played at Tennessee Vols right?
April 8th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
To put things in perspective, Dan Marino did’t play with a 1000 yard runner until his 14th year in the league.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Raider O – 8 years with my girl. I’ll get married soon enough and the most scary part will come shortly after most likely…the kids. =/
April 8th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Sorry for the repost, it was by mistake.
24,
I’m also a a full- time student and I work. Pray for me, I’m loosing my hair, and what ever I have up there is turning white. lol
April 8th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
My lady’s dog is a Puggle (Pug/Beagle). When I’m ready to get my dog, he or she will be a Husky but they are a TON of work so I’ll have to be in a better situation to be ready for that.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Speaking of kids. Let me go spend some time with the Family before they go to sleep. Later nation.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Raider O – Well…I won’t be losing my hair luckily but I’m already getting the white hairs on the side of my head. That’s without being married and having children. I’m in for a long life haha.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Raider O – Good idea. Later.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
I think Peyton Manning played at one of those SEC schools, no?
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Yes, I mentioned the Mannings, Cutler and Russell. The Peyton Manning is the shining example of hard work and film study. Don’t know much about Eli but I would imagine something similiar. Of course having an NFL QB as a dad probably helps. Cutler played for undermanned Vanderbilt. So every game he played he had inferior talent and smaller margin for error.
As for Russell, he played on a dominant LSU team. Probably had a bigger margin for error with all the talent around him. But to his credit, he was 65% passer in college and played at a high level there.
My point is that I think players from these dominant schools may have a harder time adjusting in many ways because they all play with the best talent. In the NFL they have to work real hard to be average.
When you are coming from the Big East, Big 10, Pac 10 (sans USC) or Boston College (I still see them as a big east team) or a second tier school, I think your going in knowing that you haven’t faced the absolute best talent.
I just think the SEC and Big 12 play a brand of football that is not NFL compatible. Plus the elite schools in those conferences stockpile so much talent that a QB/WR is going to have a HUGE advantage over their opponents.
SEC/Big12 is a bunch of spread offenses that focus on speed and trickeration
April 8th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
# Lynn from Snot Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Montana by far. Montana – 4 Superbowls – 4 Wins.
Elway – 5 Superbowls – 2 Wins.
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Elway had Dan Reeves holding him back and Montana had Walsh
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How many Hall of Fame Players did Joe Montana Play with?? Lott, Rice, Walsh, in addition to Randy Cross, Charles Haley, Roger Craig, John Taylor. How many Hall of Famers did Elway have?? Shannon Sharpe maybe.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
24 kids are the best part i have 5…4 boys 1 girl
April 8th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
You also have some SEC Q’s that are on the outs with their teams. Jason Campbell is from Auburn, Grossman from Florida, Bordie Croyle is from Alabama. I don’t think you can generalize and say one conference or another is better at producing NFL Q’s. Look at Arizona: they had a guy come in with the USC pedigree who got thoroughly outplayed by some stock boy from Northern Iowa.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
SnB
The flip side of that is that those guys face top defenses.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Oakglenn,
Ultimately its an indivdual by individual basis. But I think something can be said for all these skill position players from the SEC/Big12 that bust out. Those conferences rely more on speed than Xs and Os to win games.
But ultimately it comes down to the individual. But I find it intersting that the MAC conference has more QBs in the league than Florida/Florida State/Miami and Alabama combined.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
SnB has a good feel for the college game?? LOL! Thats funny stuff. He doesnt even watch the guys he claims to know so much about. He only goes by what he reads on scouting websites. Said as much when I called him on Rajii.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
SnB
The flip side of that is that those guys face top defenses.
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True, I think defensive players and lineman excel out of the SEC/Big12. It just seems that at the QB and WR positions they have historically struggled.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
What is really interesting is the number of small schools that have produced some pretty good Q’s in the league: Flacco, Romo, Rothleisburger, Kitna, Tavaris Jackson, Delhomme, Warner
April 8th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Does Russell get any benefit of the doubt for being a protege of the Mannings?
April 8th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
The Big 12 is “traditionally” more of a run conference. That is changing slowly, so drafting Q’s or corners out of that conference does seem to be a problem at times. The Big 12 does produce some pretty good linemen and running backs tho.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
That Man Closet Heineken commercial is HILARIOUS!
April 8th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
I should have said historically struggled at the next level (NFL)
I would look over Matt Stafford carefully. Especially playing for Georgia.
Russell is different. He has unique amazing arm strength and was an accurate passer in college. But even then, he still benefited from having Dwayne Bowe and Early Doucet and Buster Davis to throw to. All three are in the NFL.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
How is he a potege of the Mannings?
April 8th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
SnB has a good feel for the college game?? LOL! Thats funny stuff. He doesnt even watch the guys he claims to know so much about. He only goes by what he reads on scouting websites. Said as much when I called him on Rajii.
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Would you like me to lie and say yes….I watched a lot of B.C football! I watch college football, but not to scout players, nor am I qualified to sit there and make scouting level assessments and neither are you. LOL….
April 8th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Does Russell get any benefit of the doubt for being a protege of the Mannings?
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KoolKell,
I think Russell is going to be a great quarterback. I think his demeanor is perfect. He seems to keep things on an even keel and you need that. I liked the pick two years ago because he was an accurate passer in college. And yes, I think his association with the Mannings says a lot about where he can go.
Its been the Raiders letting him down with substandard coaching and lousy talent more than anything to do with putting work in. He had a bitter Andrew Walter and Tui behind him and the coaches probably weren’t in the building to study film with him. They were busy looking for new jobs or fighting the owner.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Oh but I am. If I talk about a guy, it means I have watched him, alot. You only go by what scouting sites say. Why dont you try an have an original thought every now and again. Like a post or two ago you say how “accurate” Russell was at LSU, let me guess, watched ZERO LSU games in 05 and 06. I will give you the honesty part though.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Oh but I am. If I talk about a guy, it means I have watched him, alot. You only go by what scouting sites say. Why dont you try an have an original thought every now and again. Like a post or two ago you say how “accurate” Russell was at LSU, let me guess, watched ZERO LSU games in 05 and 06. I will give you the honesty part though.
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You must watch a lot of college football.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
You think Russell is gonna be great or you HOPE he will? There is a difference you know. How can you POSSIBLY SAY HE IS ACCURATE? Jesus Christ that is his biggest fault, by far.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Yep, Russell finished the season strong. After the Davis/Kiffin “thing”, which he handled gracefully, and the fact Kiffin stifled him, and handcuffed him with Kwame Harris, I think to finish the season the way he did shows character. Mink coats aside.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
All in his rookie year, btw.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Ive only commented on Crabtree and BC and SC guys. I watch every BC game because I live in Boston, I watch all SC games cause theyre always on tv on Sat nights. Ask me about Stafford or any of the lineman and I dont know sheet. But I wont pretend to know either.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Another thing, the QB game has changed. He’s not just a Field General, he’s also a Field Warrior these days. Like John Elway, guys who can take a lick, and keep on ticking.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
You think Russell is gonna be great or you HOPE he will? There is a difference you know. How can you POSSIBLY SAY HE IS ACCURATE? Jesus Christ that is his biggest fault, by far.
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I said in college he was an accurate passer. As for the pros, I hear that the game is much faster at the pro level and it takes some time for players to adjust. Rarely do players come into the NFL and perform well let alone average.
In fact, many young QBs sit the bench their first 2 or 3 yrs in the league.
I am not going to judge Russell a success or failure after 16 starts. Too many QBs struggle their first couple of years and then blossom into great QBs.
ALl you have to do is look at the histories of most young QBs.
Maybe you have better information or resources at your disposal to judge Russell a failure so quickly.
Since you are very good at picking winners and losers so quickly, perhaps you can make an assessment of the young QBs in the league today.
I bet the Cleveland Browns would like your help on which young QB they should go with since both have played in a few games so far.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Oh Russell hated Kiffin. Thats probably why he was still in contact with him after Kiffin was fard. Sheet, you all will come up with anything to ease your troubled minds. I know where it comes from though. It is true, if Russell goes down, he takes the whole franchise to depths yet unseen.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Guys who can put paint that fastball on the corners on the move.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Ive only commented on Crabtree and BC and SC guys. I watch every BC game because I live in Boston, I watch all SC games cause theyre always on tv on Sat nights. Ask me about Stafford or any of the lineman and I dont know sheet. But I wont pretend to know either.
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So can you explain why Raji is considered a top 10 prospect by the media and the teams inviting him to workouts? It seems you have a very low grade on him. WHat is it that you know that they don’t?
April 8th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Oh, I wouldnt call Russell a failure yet. But the odds are better than even he will be. Great QBs in this league eat,drink, and sleep ball. Theyre gym rats if you will. Russell is not. He is lazy. Period. All you have to do is look at the guy. He is FAT. How many good fat QBs can you name in the league?
April 8th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Dude,
I also looked at the numbers. Russell’s play improved the last half of the year. I also think he played a gutsy performance in the Jets game, played within the offense against Miami, played okay against San Diego, made what should have been a game winning throw against Buffalo, and did a very good job against New England, Houston and Tampa Bay.
The kid was the youngest QB last year and he’s learning.
I am not ready to give up on him yet.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Jamarcus Russell is an accurate passer. He completed over 65% of his passes in college with 28 TD’s and 8 Interceptions and that was as a junior. He completed over 60% of his passes as a sophmore.
Peyton Manning his first year starting did not complete a much higher percentage than Russell. In fact Donavan McNabb did not complete 50% of his passes his first year starting and did not get to 60% completions for his first five or six years in the league. And he is a 5 time pro bowl player. Troy Aikman completed a LOWER percentage of his passes his lst year starting and he is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Any other questions?
April 8th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
He is a workout warrior. Plain and simple. He did not distinguish himself THAT much while at BC. Only reason he is being talked about that high is there is no other DTs for him to compete with. He is not a dominator, he and Brace together didnt dominate. They were good, but not dominate.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
# Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Oh, I wouldnt call Russell a failure yet. But the odds are better than even he will be. Great QBs in this league eat,drink, and sleep ball. Theyre gym rats if you will. Russell is not. He is lazy. Period. All you have to do is look at the guy. He is FAT. How many good fat QBs can you name in the league?
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Dan Marino smoked 3 packs of cigarettes a day every day he was in the National Football League. He is in the Hall of Fame.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
And Russell finished the last 6 games at 62% …
I think he was 70% against Houston, and 65 against Tampa Bay.
Now granted he wasn’t 100%, so a few of his throws were off.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
You dont watch many Raider games do you Oakglenn? If you did, you wouldnt call him accurate. Its laughable for anyone to say that. Even his completion % doesnt tell the story. Wide open reciever gets underthrown but still catches it but instead of an 80 yard touchdown he gets 25 yards. Completion? Yes. Accurate? Nope.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Oh, I wouldnt call Russell a failure yet. But the odds are better than even he will be. Great QBs in this league eat,drink, and sleep ball. Theyre gym rats if you will. Russell is not. He is lazy. Period. All you have to do is look at the guy. He is FAT. How many good fat QBs can you name in the league?
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I think Russell has done what has been asked of him. Kiffin said he was working hard last offseason. Is he lazy? What evidence do you have towards that? I saw a big guy at QB. Has he gained any weight since his college days? Or are you basing this on your opinion. His conditioning or being tired isn’t why he struggled at time.
I think the crisis in Oakland has affected all the players. The coaches in Oakland rarely assert themselves because Davis is a players owner. Cable is changing that and the circus atmosphere hopefully comes to an end.
Remember the laughing in the lockerroom after the San Diego loss and Nnamdi’s comments afterward. Its that losers environment that has hurt the team more than anything.
Let’s judge Russell et al with a year of professional coaching and better talent.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Number 1- How the hell would you know how many packs a day 13 smoked? LOL
Number 2- I said fat. Not a smoker or drinker or druggy. Good effort though.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Dude not only do I watch games I go to the games. Even the road games. And I can absolutely guarantee you I have better seats than you do. You really don’t have any idea what you are talking about do you?? If you did you would not say the assinine things you are saying. Almost every single QB’s accuracy improves with time in the league. But you didn’t really know that did you?
April 8th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
He is fat. Period.
I agree he hasnt been delt a good hand, but hes in Oakland and untill Al Davis dies(fingers crossed) nothing will change.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Accuracy is something you have or you dont.Period. I dont live in Oakland but I guarantee my 42inch Plasma and Barco Lounger are better than any seat you have. Its simple, if you say Russell is accurate then you are a complete moron.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
# Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Great QBs in this league eat,drink, and sleep ball. Theyre gym rats if you will.
Number 2- I said fat. Not a smoker or drinker or druggy. Good effort though.
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No you said Great QB’s are gym rats. Why don’t you go ask Dan Marino how many packs of smokes he smokes on a daily basis. I’m sure he will tell you. And BTW, you said he was fat and lazy. Have you ever been around him??? How do you know what he does every day?? How do you know that is not kevlar padding?? Or are you in the Raider locker rooms before and after games??? Or do you just not know what the fook you are talking about?? Either you are Jamarcus Russells personal trainer, a member of the Raider training staff or you don’t have any clue what the fook you are talking about. Which one is it??
April 8th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
He is a workout warrior. Plain and simple. He did not distinguish himself THAT much while at BC. Only reason he is being talked about that high is there is no other DTs for him to compete with. He is not a dominator, he and Brace together didnt dominate. They were good, but not dominate.
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He obviously distinguished himself enough that the league is going to give him $20 million for his efforts. Having other DTs in the draft has nothing to do with him being a top 10 prospect. There are years where certain positions have no player go in the 1st round. Like last year, no receiver was taken in the 1st round.
But you do have your opinion on this and its noted. I still bet that Raji goes no further than 9 to Green Bay.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Oh, I wouldnt call Russell a failure yet. But the odds are better than even he will be. Great QBs in this league eat,drink, and sleep ball. Theyre gym rats if you will. Russell is not. He is lazy. Period. All you have to do is look at the guy. He is FAT. How many good fat QBs can you name in the league?
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Last time I saw Jamarcus I didn’t notice a boiler on Him.
How do You know He’s lazy? Are you his trainer?
Jamarcus Russell has the tools to be better than most QB’s in the league.
At 10% body fat or 20.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
He is fat. Period.
I agree he hasnt been delt a good hand, but hes in Oakland
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The guy is not fat. He is in good condition to play 60 minutes of a national football game. To say he’s fat or out of shape is hearsay.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Dude,
Accuracy comes with playing the game and getting comfortable with the game speed. The good QBs improve with more reps. You willingly ignore the fact that most great QBs don’t start out as elite QBs. You completely ignore that and its a very important fact to consider when evaluating young QBs.
You also choose to ignore the statistics that showed that he improved over the last half of the season. But that’s your perrogative. I know you are still disappointed that Brady Quinn didn’t get drafted.
How’s he doing anyway?
April 8th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Dude,
The google say’s he’s accurate.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Are you saying he is NOT fat? Seriously?
I dont need to be his trainer or best bud to see he is fat.
If it was possible I would bet at least 20 grand he never makes a PB and will be out of Oakland in 2 years.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
# Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Accuracy is something you have or you dont.Period. I dont live in Oakland but I guarantee my 42inch Plasma and Barco Lounger are better than any seat you have. Its simple, if you say Russell is accurate then you are a complete moron.
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The more you post the stupider you get!!! “Accuracy is something you have or don’t”. That is the dumbest thing I have ever read on this blog, and I have read some incredibly dumb things on this blog!! So, now Dude, you are saying that Russell has no accuracy and yet somehow, you Dude, know more than 30 GM’s in the league who would have drafted him in the first round, or Les Miles a former Big 12 Coach of the Year who started him for 2 years as a sophmore and junior!!! All because he is an inaccurate passer who completed almost SEVENTY PERCENT OF THIS PASSES!! In the SEC!! And you know this all from your barcolounger because it is a better view than actually being down on the field????????????? Priceless. Keep going. This is entertaining. You probably know something about world religion to don’t you. Are you the Dalai Lama from your barcolounger??
April 8th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Later folks. Those that have watched football for a while know the deal. QBs are hatched, they are developed. Russell will be fine.
And hey Dude!
With the 7th pick the Raiders select B.J Raji, DT Boston College……yeah!
April 8th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Quinn played much?
April 8th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
If workout warriors make great QB’s, then why isn’t Sylvester Stallone a great QB?
April 8th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
“QB’s are NOT hatched, they are developed”
Raji at 7 Dude!
Later
April 8th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Yeah cause watching it live gives you a better look than on TV from 20 different angles. LOL! Idiots are out tonight. WOW!!
April 8th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Quinn played much?
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No, he can’t even get on the field and right now its not certain whether he will be a Cleveland Brown after April. I think he can be a good QB, we will see.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
The whole WORLD thinks Russell is headed for the scrap heap BUT Raiderfan. LOL!! Here we go again.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
DA is the reason he hasnt got on the field. DA is a good player.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Are you saying he is NOT fat? Seriously?
I dont need to be his trainer or best bud to see he is fat.
If it was possible I would bet at least 20 grand he never makes a PB and will be out of Oakland in 2 years.
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Dude if you happen to be 6′6″ and weigh a buck twenty I could see how you could view Jamarcus as fat.
Kinda like the anorexic highschool girl that disappears when she turns sideways, but thinks she’s got Oprahs ass.
I think Jamarcus can be in the Pro Bowl within 2 years if the Raiders are winning football games.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Why do you think the Raiders got all those prime-time games?
JaMarcus Russell baby!!!!!!
April 8th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Keep watching it on TV dude. That’s what every GM in the league does. They go to the games, go to the combine, sit in their hotel rooms and watch the whole thing on NFL network on TV. They get better camera angles then being there themselves. So that’s why all those coaches are up in the press area. So they can watch the game on TV instead of being down on the field!! At least now I know. That must be why Davis wanted to move out of Oakland. Because his coaches didn’t have 42 inch plasma TV’s and Barcoloungers to watch the game. They stood there and watched it with their own eyes. You are a joke dude.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
# Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
The whole WORLD thinks Russell is headed for the scrap heap
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Your barcolounger world dude. That’s why every single coach, GM, announcer, and now the networks are gushing over this guy. Because he is a bust. This dude guy is hilarious. You should try comedy central dude.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
You claim to have watched the game on TV from your barcolounger dude. did you not hear Phil Simms, Rich Gannon, and all the other announcers say how incredibly impressive Russell is??? Or did you have the sound off in barcolounger world??
April 8th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Give me one announcer ot network who is gushing. Just one.
Oakglenn, you are a RaiderKoolAid, dillusional piece of dog sheet. Your one of those jackasses who think the Raiders are Superbowl bound EVERY year. LOL!! Keep on waiting asshole.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Nope, sure didnt hera them “gushing”. LOL!!!!! Opposite actually. Oh, Oakglenn, you keep me laughing.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
I just gave you two. You can’t count can you?? Are you drunk in your barcolounger?? Or do you just not make sense when people challenge you??? I have thrown 50 legitimate questions at you and you have not been able to answer one. You just call names. You’re the POS pal. Answer one question I have asked you. You know Jamarcus personnally?? You know more about football than Les Miles?? You ever hear of Phil Simms?? How’s about Rich Gannon??
April 8th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
# Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Nope, sure didnt hera them “gushing”. LOL!!!!! Opposite actually. Oh, Oakglenn, you keep me laughing.
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Here we go. So you heard Simms and or Gannon saying derogatory things about Russell??? I have every game on DVD. Tell me, which game so I can go listen to them.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Dont know Russell personally. Just have to look at him to see hes fat.
Come on retard. Whats Miles gonna say? That he sux? LOL
Simms and Gannon never “Gushed”. How would you know, you were at the games. Riiiiiiight?LOL
April 8th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Gannon ripped his ass on many occasion, as well as the organization as a whole. I am sure they both have a good thing to say about him every now and again, but no way were they gushing.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Did you not just read that I told you I have all the games on DVD?? Or are you having a hard time reading. lst thing you say, you don’t know. 2ndly, so then Les Miles is going to have started him for 2 years because he sux and he has no one else. That is preposterous. 3rdly, show me where they did not say how remarkable he is. You claim it. Prove it. You are just pulling stuff out your ass. You don’t make sense, and now you are running in circles.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Dont know Russell personally. Just have to look at him to see hes fat.
Come on retard. Whats Miles gonna say? That he sux? LOL
Simms and Gannon never “Gushed”. How would you know, you were at the games. Riiiiiiight?
April 8th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Dude, you don’t make any sense. You claim you don’t know, you claim Les Miles started him two years because he sucks, and you claim Gannon ripped his playing while ripping the team as a whole. I agree Gannon ripped the team as a whole but not Russells skills. So you have nothing. You are just running in circles saying nothing.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
At least the trolls are on your side. What does that tell ya?
April 8th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
You have ZERO games on dvd. Guaranteed.
As I said, dont have to know him to know hes fat.
I watched every game he has ever started. The only time they might have used the word remarkable is when refering to his arm. Thats the only remarkable thing about him.
The consensus on him is EL Busto.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Vince Lombardi: If only I could have sat on my fat ass on my barcolounger I never would have gone to a Packer game. I would have coached from my ass.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
With good coaching, a stable organization, a good line and decent weapons Jamarcus Russell would have a chance to be a good NFL QB. All those things he will never have in Oakland therefore he WILL be a bust.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
You have ZERO games on dvd. Guaranteed.
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Have you ever HEARD of a DVD?? Is that some technology that somehow exceeds your price range?? I think you can buy one for about $200. times must be tough in Bean town. You have proven without a doubt, you don’t have a clue what you are talking about. At least now, we all know. See ya. You bore me.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
You have ZERO games on dvd. Guaranteed.
As I said, dont have to know him to know hes fat.
I watched every game he has ever started. The only time they might have used the word remarkable is when refering to his arm. Thats the only remarkable thing about him.
The consensus on him is EL Busto.
Looks like a fight between the dude
and kewlquail 
My money is on the dude 
April 8th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Ahh, finally busted you eh? LOL. Dont worry you aint da first wont be the last.
” Hey man, I got every game on DVD, which I only said after I realized I backed myself into a corner by claiming to be AT the games but at the same time knowing what the tv announcers say every weeK”
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 8th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
With good coaching, a stable organization, a good line and decent weapons Jamarcus Russell would have a chance to be a good NFL QB.
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Dude you are getting somehow stupider by the second. First off, you just completely contradicted yourself. Secondly, have you not ever heard of recording the game to watch it later??? I guess you must not be very bright, which we all know. You have now contradicted yourself repeatedly, humiliated yourself, and once again, proven to be a complete and utter moron. But don’t worry, you broke me all right. What an imbecile.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
R8rpaver – You da man. 5 kids huh? My girl and I want 4. Nothin wrong with having girls but you did good having 4 boys. Gotta keep the blood line going. Thats a scary thing for me.
On my Dad’s side, there are 5 Bowman’s left. My Dad, my brother, his son (3 years old), his daughter (2 years old) and myself. The only logical people to carry the name is myself, my brother and his son 2 far so he needs to have more boys and I need to go at least 3 for 4 with a .750 batting average in order to help the blood line flowing.
On my Mother’s side, there are no more Jones’ left. Thats it. The family has run out. I considered changing my last name to Jones to continue the blood line but I said fuk it. I love my lastname and it needs help as well.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Ahh, finally busted you eh? LOL. Dont worry you aint da first wont be the last.
” Hey man, I got every game on DVD, which I only said after I realized I backed myself into a corner by claiming to be AT the games but at the same time knowing what the tv announcers say every weeK”
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You are one dense Dude.
To go to games and also record them to dvd, to be viewed subsequent is something many fans do.
So yes Flintstone, it is possible to do both.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Am I the only one in the universe with a DVD writer that can record NFL games, or is Dude, somehow still living in the paleolithic stone age?? Dude, tell me what games you want and I can even burn you a copy!! Maybe you can watch it in super slow mo so you can comprehend what is going on out there and stop embarrassing yourself. From your barcolounger.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Oakglenn Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Am I the only one in the universe with a DVD writer that can record NFL games, or is Dude, somehow still living in the paleolithic stone age?? Dude, tell me what games you want and I can even burn you a copy!! Maybe you can watch it in super slow mo so you can comprehend what is going on out there and stop embarrassing yourself. From your barcolounger.
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LOL…Classic
April 8th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Thanks Len! This dude guy is a laugh riot. His electricity must have been turned off for non payment. Or maybe he just doesn’t get off his barcolounger much to see what is happening in the real world.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Question? If the dude
says that kewlquail 
has contradicted himself several times. And if kewlquail 
says the dude 
has contradicted himself severl times. Is this conversation a real conversation or a figment of Jerry’s imagination? 
April 8th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Oakglenn, His “takes” are laughable.
It’s interesting to juxtapose His rantings about Jamrcus being fat, and lazy as he references His barcolounger.
I think they call that transference. lol
April 8th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Oakglenn Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Thanks Len! This dude guy is a laugh riot. His electricity must have been turned off for non payment. Or maybe he just doesn’t get off his barcolounger much to see what is happening in the real world.
Maybe he works at a dude-ranch
April 8th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
RaiderLen Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Oakglenn, His “takes” are laughable.
It’s interesting to juxtapose His rantings about Jamrcus being fat, and lazy as he references His barcolounger.
I think they call that transference.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
RaiderLen Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Oakglenn, His “takes” are laughable.
It’s interesting to juxtapose His rantings about Jamrcus being fat, and lazy as he references His barcolounger.
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hahahahahaha!!!!!!! He didn’t mention the 50 lb bag of cheetos and the 40 empty bags of pork rinds that are just to the side of the barclounger. Dude: how’d those get there?
April 8th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Len, you win take of the day!!
April 8th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
His rantings about Jamrcus being fat, and lazy as he references His barcolounger.
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LMFAO!
April 8th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Oh I know its possible to record to DVD. I just know you dont have them. You got caught lying and threw a hail mary.
IF Russell had a decent franchise around him he very well could be good. Fact is he doesnt, Raiders are the worst franchise in the NFL and would destroy any QB drafted. Just happens that Russell was the un lucky one.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
As far as being in shape. Some commentators said they saw Peyton Manning without a shirt on and he didn’t look like a football player. Alot of QB’s don’t have the built Brady Quinn look. Alot of them have average looking bodies because they don’t have to be as physical. I wouldn’t doubt that some had pot bellies back in the day from all the drinking and partying that was going on.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Yep, thats me.
So, Superbowl for the Raiders this year? LOL!!!!
Russell headed to Hawaii? LOL!!
Oh, I bet you got DVDs of every Superbowl and ProBowl too right? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 8th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Oh I know its possible to record to DVD. I just know you dont have them. You got caught lying and threw a hail mary.
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Just so you know I have a Panasonic DMR EZ47V. Quite a nice unit really fatass. Records DVD’s and video tapes, plays CD’s, MP3 discs, you can buy one cheap fatass. You might need your mom to help you figure out how it works tho. Or maybe your 3 year old sister could figure it out for you.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Len,
331…LMAO.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
24 that is exactly right. Marino was a chain smoker the whole time he played.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Oakglenn Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Dude you are stupid and you are getting raked here. And your hands are bright orange. You eat lots of cheetos don’t you?? What’s your nickname at school?? Fatass??
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Hahahahahahah!
Those cheetos do mess a Dude up.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Good for you. And the fact you decided to type that stuff really makes you a cool guy. More than likely you stole the damn thing then brought it back to your single wide you share with your 300 pound wife and 3 kids. Still doesnt change the fact you DONT have the games on DVD. Good try though, boy.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Hey Raider O,
Hope all is well.
Gotta Dude talking nonsense tonight.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Also…You can be “fat” and be in really good shape. Look at offensive and defensive lineman.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Good for you. And the fact you decided to type that stuff really makes you a cool guy. More than likely you stole the damn thing then brought it back to your single wide you share with your 300 pound wife and 3 kids. Still doesnt change the fact you DONT have the games on DVD. Good try though, boy.
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I’ll say this one last time.
They call this transference.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Len,
Irony: dude sitting in his Barcolounger watching his 42 plasma, and calling a professional athlete Lazy and Fat. LMAO
April 8th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
24 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Also…You can be “fat” and be in really good shape. Look at offensive and defensive lineman.
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24 I agree,
Lean does not neccesarily mean mean in sports.
I think John Kruk or some other said “when’s the last time you heard of someone on IR because of pulled fat”
April 8th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Actually Len I think fatass, err, dude, WISHES, he had a single wide and a 300 lb girlfriend. It sure beats sitting in his dark basement in his barclounger with a 50 lb bag of cheetos typing nonsense.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
I know Len, and that’s why I haven’t posted much. I’m enjoying the nonsense.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Raider O #350
Exactly. lol
April 8th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
RaiderO,
Douchebag: RaiderO
3 hours 16 sundays out the year compared to a fat pro athlet who doesnt feel like gettn in shape. Yep, thats IRONY.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
, boy.
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Here we go ……….
April 8th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Oakglenn Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Actually Len I think fatass, err, dude, WISHES, he had a single wide and a 300 lb girlfriend. It sure beats sitting in his dark basement in his barclounger with a 50 lb bag of cheetos typing nonsense.
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Oakglenn,
Yep.I can’t imagine that the unwashed orange pecker can be doing much for Dude either.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Hey if Russell wants to be a lineman fine. He damn sure looks like one.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Jared Lorenzen was the fattest QB I’ve ever seen. He recently was a backup for the NY Giants.
http://mikeresponts.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/bfjaredlorenzen.jpg
April 8th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
You are killing me Len. Pulled Fat.
JR is on IR for pulled Fat. lol
April 8th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
The funniest part about fatass, err dude, is even the most rudimentary insect knows to run away before it gets squashed. I guess dude is not as smart as a bug. Are you fatass?
April 8th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
I guess none of you guys ever saw Sonny Jurgeson in his prime. Jurgenson might even be in the Hall of Fame. He makes Jamarcus look like Kate Moss.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Raider Nation: 56,990 Dude: 0
April 8th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
I said Irony, and you respond with an insult. Is that what your 42 plasma been teaching you?!?
April 8th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Lorenzen is listed as 6′4 285 lbs
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=6094
April 8th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
I bet five bucks that barcolounger and plasma TV is actually dudes step dads and he can only watch it when his step dad ain’t around.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
You got anything besides your man love for Fat Boy?
Lets hear who Oakretard thinks the Raiders should take at 7.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
This is a bit off our current topic, (crushing Dude “barcolounger” Flinstone) but it leads to a point.
Andre Smith is not a pretty boy with His shirt off,but the Kid is a football player.
I’ll take a Kid with man titties that can play over any “Specimen” that only looks good getting off the bus.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Andre Smith= lineman
FatBoy= QB
Bigg diff Lenny
April 8th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Dude doesn’t sound much like a Raiders fan. Hes only concerned about how fat or good looking football players are and how sarcastic he can be about the #7 pick. Are you a Raider fan or are you here to argue about nothing?
April 8th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
No it isn’t.
Please explain how Jamarcus’ “fatness” to paraphrase your sentiment, effects his ability to throw a football.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
# Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
You got anything besides your man love for Fat Boy?
Lets hear who Oakretard thinks the Raiders should take at 7.
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Fatass I could do that but I am having waaaay too much fun crushing you like a paper cup.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Nothing to do with throwing the football. EVERYTHING to do with discipline, hard work, and mobility.
I am done with the Russell subject. He is El Busto, you all think hes headed to Canton. Whatever.
Lets hear your draft opinions.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Thats what I thought. Nada.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Kids these days don’t care about class, respect, or even education. They care about 42″ TVs, cars, and music.
I fear that ignorance will do what others couldn’t, destroy a great empire.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Wow, RaidrO. Deep.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Goodnight people.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Nothing to do with throwing the football. EVERYTHING to do with discipline, hard work, and mobility.
I am done with the Russell subject. He is El Busto, you all think hes headed to Canton. Whatever.
Lets hear your draft opinions.
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After you’ve played Division 1A football at a Major University, come back and expain to me what hardwork and disicipline are all about.
Micheal Vick is pretty mobile, So was Bobby Douglass.
If mobility is the standard of greatness then why not put JLH under center.
He’d be very mobile.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
later 24.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Gnite 24.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
So you would rather have a fat QB?
Doesnt say anything about his commitment or self discipline then huh?
April 8th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
So you would rather have a fat QB?
Doesnt say anything about his commitment or self discipline then huh?
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Dude, it’s getting late.
Because I am hardworking and disciplined, I’m calling it a night.
I have a Business to run.
I would suggest you contact Jenny Craig, Weight Watchers, or Nutri System.
I think Nutri System is the one were you can get “Manly meals” like Marino, Golic and Shula.
When You put down the Cheetos, and lose the weight, you’ll probably not obsess so much about Jamarcus.
Good Night…and Good Luck!
April 8th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
I am done with the Russell subject. He is El Busto, you all think hes headed to Canton. Whatever.
Yet minutes later:
# Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
So you would rather have a fat QB?
Doesnt say anything about his commitment or self discipline then huh?
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And then earlier tonite:
# Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
The whole WORLD thinks Russell is headed for the scrap heap BUT Raiderfan.
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
With good coaching, a stable organization, a good line and decent weapons Jamarcus Russell would have a chance to be a good NFL QB.
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Fatass, there you go completely contradicting yourself twice in a period of 90 minutes. You never said YOU were in shape did you?? I’m sure you’ll be contradicting yourself again shortly.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Hey, I am running a business as I talk to you, so you get little sympathy from me.
So in a nutshell you would rather have a fat QB than a normal sized one. Ok, gotcha.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
Good night Len, and later nation.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
nite O. Fatass you still here?? You’re running a business huh?
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Hey, I am running a business as I talk to you, so you get little sympathy from me.
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Bilking little old ladies out of their life savings is not running a business. It’s called stealing.
April 8th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Does it matter if I am in shape? I mean, if I say I am its not gonna change your stupid cheetos references, right? So for you to get your jollies we’ll say im 5′8 280. Ok pumpkin?
The Raider organization will play just as big a role in Russell being a bust as Russell himself. Thats the bottom line. Dispute it if you can.
April 8th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
The litle old ladies pay 4 bucks for coffee on their own valition. No tricks. They know the price when they come.
April 8th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Does it matter if I am in shape?
Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Nothing to do with throwing the football. EVERYTHING to do with discipline, hard work, and mobility.
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I’m in shape. I just ran 4 miles of stairs. You on the other hand are a hypocrite. You criticize Russell for his weight, and then you criticize him for discipline, yet you are probably so fat and out of shape you bent your barcolounger. So, now we know a bit more about you and it’s not pretty (in more ways than one): you contradict yourself, you obviously are not very smart, you lie, you say lot’s of stupid things without any basis in fact, and you’re a hypocrite. Anything else about you we should know?
April 8th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
# Dude Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
The litle old ladies pay 4 bucks for coffee on their own valition. No tricks. They know the price when they come.
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So actually you work as a coffee barista?? And you are on the internet the whole time?? I guess you’re right about not bilking old ladies out of their money, you’re bilking your employer at of their money. At least you’re stealing from someone. I figured as much.
April 8th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
LOL! Man you are so weak. Let me get this straight….
I am a fat, out of shape, cheeto eatn, old lady cheatn barista who knows nothing about football. Oh, and I am a hypocrite. Got it. Sweet. I sound really cool.
But you just ran 4 miles of stairs, right? I bet LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 8th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
I bet your one of those ” Al Davis is king, Raiders have won blah blah blah Superbowls, Gruden sucked, Gannon sucked, all media are haters, Superbowl every year types” arent you. Guarantee it.
April 8th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
Who would you rather have Russell or one of the QB’s available this year?
April 8th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
The point is that we have Russell. And none of these yo-yo’s calling him out for something other than his performance on the field can change the fact that there are a lot of dollars and years left in this phase of Raider football. SO, common sense would indicate that the offense will be constructed to support his success. Oh yeah, that’s what Al and Cable have been saying this whole time too. I don’t know why that’s not enough to put this thing to bed til we see him play this year. I will be the first to say if the guy doesn’t make even more progress this year, then it was a less than stellar pick.
Last year, I just wanted to see progress. Once Cable began calling plays (after the ATL game), that’s exactly what we saw. This team has been atrocious in so many areas that you could barely evaluate the guy before that. Now some continuity and improvements to the supporting cast SHOULD help. If they don’t, THEN you look at why it’s not working.
April 8th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
My point is Russell is a very rare talent. Sure Stafford and Sanchez will probably be quality starters before their careers are over. The same is true with Matt Ryan who’s very efficient excellent study great field general. These guy’s will more than likely have good careers Matt Ryan maybe 4 or 5 probowls.
The difference is Russell is a once every ten years type talent. You could find a Matt Ryan most years. If Russell reaches his potesntial he will be one of the top 5 QB’s in history. Everyone is saying he’s too fat too lazy and too black. But the truth is he’s a young QB learning the pro game just like the rest of them. If continues just as he’s going he’ll be great. If he steps it up and really pushes himself he’ll be one greatest ever. Similar to Shaq O’Neal Russell coud be as Shaq is or he could be Wilt Chamberlain. Matt Ryan can’t do that. neither can the rest of these guy’s.
Let’s say Russell reaches 90% of his potential he wuld be hands down the best QB the Raiders have ever had. That would put him in John Elway status. Can Matt Ryan do that? HELL NO!!
April 9th, 2009 at 12:09 am
408…
exactly… good story… Thanks, lets hope BSJ and Dakota reads it…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090408/ap_on_re_af/piracy
—” Merchant crews aren’t supposed to fight pirates, short of using high-pressure hoses to try to stop them from climbing aboard, Reinhart said.
“They (the crews) don’t have any weapons, so it would be inappropriate for them to try to be heroes. We’d like them to come home safely,” he told a news conference. “—
April 9th, 2009 at 12:13 am
Priest, yep, yep, and yep. The ceiling on the guy is what makes it so damn exciting right now. It also makes it crucial that he focus and that they get the most out of him. To tell you the truth I have heard the Cable quotes calling for a step up in dedication but I have been impressed w/ JMarc’s demeanor and I get the feeling teammates respect him (more important than liking him). The kid seems to have a balanced persona. Very interesting Shaq comparison btw. I think it’s accurate w/ regards to talent. Even better is Jmarc’s got nothing near Shaq’s ego either.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:14 am
# Ryan Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
LMN is suppose to be watching for Pirates.
Pirates = Raiders? Hmmmmmm.
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LOL, not quite, my ships are 10 times as big, they cant go through the Suez or the Panama..
but, Raiders, Pirates and, well I guess we vikings were some sought of raiders as well =)
April 9th, 2009 at 12:17 am
Good Morning, guys…
April 9th, 2009 at 2:15 am
Report: Lynch Suspended For Three Games
Posted by Aaron Wilson on April 9, 2009, 12:34 a.m.
Buffalo Bills Pro Bowl running back Marshawn Lynch has been suspended for three games by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell for a violation of the NFL’s personal conduct policy, according to Michael Smith of ESPN.com.
The pending suspension stems from Lynch’s Feb. 11 arrest in California and a subsequent guilty plea to a misdemeanor gun charge. Although four marijuana cigarettes were discovered during a search of Lynch’s vehicle, the police didn’t file drug charges and he was sentenced to community service and three years probation.
Per the report, an official announcement of the suspension may take place today. However, Lynch is apparently planning to appeal a suspension that will cost him a total of $112,000.
Following the incident in California, Lynch issued an apology.
“I am embarrassed by my recent arrest and conviction,” Lynch said. “I deeply regret that I placed myself in this situation.”
Lynch recently said that he anticipated a suspension after meeting with Goodell last month.
Last year, Lynch narrowly escaped NFL discipline after pleading guilty to a traffic violation where he acknowledged hitting a woman with his car in Buffalo and driving off.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:22 am
Can someone explain this to me, please? Or was this arranged prior to the Garcia sign? Or is there something we don’t know concerning/about Russell? I am scratching my head over this one….
McGee Wants To Be A Cowboy
Posted by Mike Florio on April 8, 2009, 9:25 p.m.
Texas A&M quarterback Stephen McGee is expected to be a late-round pick.
And so was Tom Brady.
McGee appeared on Sporting News Radio’s The Monty Show earlier today, and he said that he would like to play for the Cowboys.
He also will be visiting the Raiders and the Broncos. But his heart apparently is in Big D.
“It’s a huge deal for me,” McGee said. “Next week will be a pretty big week for me getting to to Oakland, then Dallas and Denver. I’ve got a pretty full week, but that Dallas visit will be huge for me because growing up here in Texas I had Troy Aikman and so forth on my wall for a long time now. I’m so excited to be one of the guys to go on the visit and if I have the opportunity to play in Dallas I know that I would be thrilled and honored.”
April 9th, 2009 at 3:02 am
What up nation.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:35 am
R-Mom…
yeah that sounds a bit weird… It must have been prior to the garcia signing.. I dont think we need 5 QBs =)
April 9th, 2009 at 3:41 am
EnglandRAIDER…
I think its rather good for european securaty that Bob Quick stepped down…
April 9th, 2009 at 4:46 am
Morning NATION
April 9th, 2009 at 4:47 am
wOW LMN that is a beautifull building you got there!!!
April 9th, 2009 at 4:49 am
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April 9th, 2009 at 4:53 am
408
April 9th, 2009 at 4:54 am
408 =)
April 9th, 2009 at 4:55 am
408 =0 =)
April 9th, 2009 at 5:03 am
4eva…
LOL 4th try is a charm or how goes it =) LOL…
sorry, what building?
April 9th, 2009 at 5:16 am
Maersk HQ as soon as my girlfriend see’s that she probobly gonna put in a app.She sick of the hospital already =)
April 9th, 2009 at 5:21 am
4eva…
is she ready to move here to DK?
April 9th, 2009 at 5:26 am
4eva..
or she could apply to Maersk Line Ltd, their HQ is located in Norfolk…
I dont know how that looks, never been there, but as far as i understand Norfolk is a beautiful place..
April 9th, 2009 at 5:47 am
LMN she would move 2 Denmark but she wants a 2 year contract,she’s a shrewed one thats 4 sure =)
April 9th, 2009 at 5:48 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Whats up 4eva, LMN, Dirt Lot, Rockstar, NMF…and anyone that I may have forgotten this morning?
April 9th, 2009 at 5:57 am
its a beautifull day!!! =)
April 9th, 2009 at 6:00 am
4eva…
it sure is a beautiful day…
problem with Maersk its always, on their terms, and usually paid worse than similar jobs in other companies, they see it as perk just to be part of the organization..
April 9th, 2009 at 6:06 am
Morning Nation,
Last night I got a chance to watch Path to the Draft, Raiders on the Clock, and I have to say Lombardi really seems like a big P O S.
They’ve got the Raiders taking Bey @ 7!?! Which amazes me, that the so called experts would really think that the Raiders are such idiots that they would take a late first to early second round projection at #7, who is by all accounts the 3rd if not 4th best reciever in the field, all because of his combine time.
I can’t help but wonder if anyone else in the NFL world realizes the Raiders aren’t quite the joke they think they are. That this year has been marked by smart moves.
I really think the football media world has boughten into this charachterture (spelling?) of Al Davis that they’ve created.
Do they really think he’s this wonky senile old man, oh who by the way has been one of the great builders of their league.
It’s almost like they’ve confused Mr. Davis, with Mr. Burns.
Anyway, I can’t help but let it all get under my skin a bit, how much disrespect the Raiders are getting right now, maybe the last 5 years might suggest some of it is deserved, but it just makes me hungry for the Raiders to really show what the young talent in this organization can do in ‘09.
April 9th, 2009 at 6:07 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, 4EVA,HWNDR, L M N , THE WHOLE CREW, HEARD THE NFL CANCELL’D THE DRAFT..TO MUCH SPECULATION / ARGUING GOING ON INSIDE THE RAIDER BLOG’S ,JUST A RUMMER I HEARD…..
April 9th, 2009 at 6:13 am
Oh no…don’t say that. Does that mean that Al has that much power that he can shut down the draft? LOL
Good Morning Dirt Lot…
April 9th, 2009 at 6:15 am
LOL, yeah it should be the commissioner that just dealt the players our to the teams =) LOL
April 9th, 2009 at 6:21 am
well who knows what she will do but thankx 4 the insight LMN!!! =)
April 9th, 2009 at 6:24 am
Ricky Brown misses tackles and is quite undersized. The Joe Flacco QB catch he looked completely unathletic! Ricky Brown makes zero plays of significance. Bringing him back does what for your defense? Nada. Come on you know I got backup for everything I say. Dont toss out ridiculous stats because they never tell the true story
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Brien: Ricky Brown doesn’t miss tackles. who cares if he’s undersized? he makes up for it with heart and drive. He’s not as athletic as Morrison or Howard, but he gives more effort and he’s stronger vs the run. You can’t judge a guy’s entire season off of one trick play. come on man!
April 9th, 2009 at 6:25 am
good morning Hwnrdr, Dirt Lot, LMN, 4eva …
the AM crew is rockin & rollin!
waitress: get these boys some coffee please. put it on my tab
April 9th, 2009 at 6:26 am
Morning NMF & Taber Corn …
April 9th, 2009 at 6:27 am
4eva..
she was a computer hawk, right? then if I were her, I would try to get a job at Microsoft in Denmark, their European HQ is here in DK… and they pay top-dollar =)
April 9th, 2009 at 6:29 am
morning y’all,
the Raiders look like all sanity reigns in Alameda compared to that other pirate team in Florida. After firing Chucky then ditching Garcia, Brooks and others they are left with no QB, no running game and they are getting rid of Dungy’s defense in favor of Bates’ D that was so awful Shanarat ran him out of Denver. Too bad the Raiders can’t play those boys twice a year.
April 9th, 2009 at 6:30 am
Rockstar,
good idea, a cuppa joe sounds right.
April 9th, 2009 at 6:31 am
HOW ABOUT COFFEE AND A WAITRESS, ROCKSTAR,LET ME DREAM A LITTLE,GOOD MORNING BY THE WAY..
April 9th, 2009 at 6:32 am
It could be the defense though. I think the safeties are to relied upon do to the pourous run defense up front. I don’t know.
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S&B #21 : thats exactly my point. coaching & scheme makes a huge difference.
John Marshall isn’t Rob Ryan …
April 9th, 2009 at 6:34 am
I will tell her LMN and I’m sure she thank’s you 4 the info =)
April 9th, 2009 at 6:35 am
Good Morning M.
Dirt Lot: I’ll pay for your coffee, but i’m not paying for your waitress rental this evening!
April 9th, 2009 at 6:38 am
Darn Rockstar, the waitress doesn’t come in a package deal? Hope that coffee is really good this morning! LOL
April 9th, 2009 at 6:40 am
DAMN, THOUGHT WE WAS FRIEND’S (UNSEEN),CAN I BORROW A FEW BUCKS THEN, MY EX OLD INTERNET BUDDY ? LOL
April 9th, 2009 at 6:44 am
With the many areas which need improvement in play or personnel on the Raiders the one area I refuse to think about is at safety. I cringe every time I think about it so I just don’t.
April 9th, 2009 at 6:47 am
I have a question for all you guys. a serious question
Everyone expects Russell to blossom in his 2nd full season as a starter. He now has 1 HC, 1 play caller, experienced QB coach and a veteran mentor. He will have a year of film to review and perfect his own game.
Last year he completed 54 perecent of his passes. QB rating of 77. 2423 yards. 13 TD to 8 INT’s. sacked 31 times. He fumbled 11 times, losing 7 of them. That’s 15 turnovers to 14 TD’s (he had 1 rush TD) in what was basically his rookie season as far as playing time goes.
If we do nothing else to build the WR corps or o-line in the draft, what do you project his stats next year will look like?
S&B and many others think that the OL & WR corps are in good shape with Henderson replacing Harris and a healthy McFadden, Walker & Shields. Also more playing time for Higgins, Schilens & Bush.
please let me know what you think. what are Russell’s numbers next season with no further improvements on offense?
April 9th, 2009 at 6:50 am
Orakapo is too big a risk. Andre Smith at #7, Brace or Hood at DT in 2nd round, DE or MLB in 3rd. Best scenario is to trade down and in that case Smith if he is still available if not, Oher at OT, Mack with the next pick and then Brace at DT. SS or MLB type next.
April 9th, 2009 at 6:51 am
With the many areas which need improvement in play or personnel on the Raiders the one area I refuse to think about is at safety. I cringe every time I think about it so I just don’t.
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whos the worst in recent memory?
pope, bates, dorsett, schweigert, gibson? am I missing someone?
April 9th, 2009 at 6:53 am
LOL @ Hwnrdr & Dirt Lot
the coffee is cheaper than the waitress (but not much)
looks are deceiving. ever felt what its like to burn when you pee? haha
April 9th, 2009 at 6:54 am
Rockstar,
I assume that JaMarcus will have higher numbers in all categories except the fumbles as he will take more risks. Means more yards, more TDs and more INTs. Risk taking is part of trying to win rather than trying not to lose.
April 9th, 2009 at 6:55 am
IT IS A GOOD QUESTION ROCKSTAR, AND ONE THAT NEED’S TO BE ASK’D . IMO, THE NEXT 2 YEARS WILL TELL US A LOT ABOUT J.R. BOTH MENTALLY AND PHYSACLY, HE SHOULD IMPROOVE A LOT THIS YEAR WHILE BUILDING WITH HIS O-LINE AND RECIEVING CORE, 2010 SHOULD BE THE ALL WORLD BREAK OUT ALL PRO YEAR, IMO BARRING INJURY OR SOME OTHER UNFORSEEN NATURAL DESASTER..
April 9th, 2009 at 6:55 am
Rockstar…I believe that unless we have major improvement on the lines, Russells stats will probably decline a little bit. Our WR core is still untapped, and they may not turn out to how we want them to be. I think that Cable and that dude from Cal will work on the line part, but it is also up to Russell now that Garcia is on board; and we all know Garcia is just hyping the media of supporting Russell. He is going to push Russell for the starting position. Sad if Garcia becomes the best option, than we will have what happened in Tennessee last year.
I like what they are doing with the OL, creating competition, but still, no real clear cut winners. We do need help on OL and WR, but who and when do we go with that?
April 9th, 2009 at 6:56 am
Mad Road Dog : Andre Smith & BJ Raji are a risk as far as off field concerns and character too.
However, on the football field they are dominant
I’d love to trade down with Philly and get Oher & Brace. That would be an excellent draft imo. Brace won’t be there when we pick in Round 2 … Chung will be though
April 9th, 2009 at 6:59 am
Rockstar,
Safety has been just a blur of phlegm so it hard to distinguish individuals among all the lackluster performances.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:01 am
RRS Jmac missed countless passes last year.I watched in horror him miss a wide open Curry 4 a TD.Countless drives were stalled on 3rd down when he couldn’t complete the little touch-pass 2 any RB,he either over-threw or under-threw.To his credit the last 6 games he started 2 make those throws.A lot of that credit goes 2 Henderson imo.When Jmac has time he gonna burn it up.Big Al has sent the LOUDEST message 2 Jmac by bringing in Garcia and DENYING Hererra and Cable 2 the media.Jmac better put the doughnuts down,lol Sooo…
If you look at it at that angle,prudence would say 2 draft some one who helps Jmac NOW: A O-lineman or WR
April 9th, 2009 at 7:01 am
No, Rockstar, can’t say that I had!!! Call me lucky, I guess…and yeah, I know that looks are deceiving. I used to live in San Diego for a year. You never know what you run into there. The women could be 12, or just plain…ummm…we all know…Deceiving down there. Then again, that was 20 years ago. Don’t know about now…
April 9th, 2009 at 7:02 am
Safety has been just a blur of phlegm so it hard to distinguish individuals among all the lackluster performances.
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M Lonetree : have no fear. Branch & Eugene are gonna tear it up this year!
April 9th, 2009 at 7:07 am
Jmac better put the doughnuts down,lol Sooo…
If you look at it at that angle,prudence would say 2 draft some one who helps Jmac NOW: A O-lineman or WR
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4eva: thats what I’m thinking! Give Russell all the peices of the puzzle. How are you gonna know how good your franchise QB can be with a bunch of scrubs at OL & WR ??? How confident do you think Russell is looking at our WR corps compared to others around the league? I think he’s praying for an Andre Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald …
April 9th, 2009 at 7:09 am
Under Rob Ryan no unit or individual performed well with the exception of Nnamdi, why pick on Safety?
You could argue Chris Johnson and K Morrison did ok but a new DC was 2 years overdue.
# M Lonetree Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 6:59 am
Rockstar,
Safety has been just a blur of phlegm so it hard to distinguish individuals among all the lackluster performances.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:12 am
Man if we had ANDRE JOHNSON there would be no stopping us
April 9th, 2009 at 7:15 am
Hwnrdr #445: especially asian chicks! I was at work and it was my 17th b-day and this little hot asian chick I’d always flirted with found out it was my b-day and she came in and wished me “Happy Birthday” and asked how old I was. I jokingly told her I was 21. She didn’t know I was joking.
handed my a wadded up napkin. I gave it back to her and said “throw it away yourself!” she laughed and told me to look at it first. It was her phone number. haha. Am I smooth or what?
Anyways, we went out a few times and during that process I found out she was 23! I thought she was 16 or 17. haha. One night she wanted to go to a club, then I had to tell her I couldn’t get in if they check for ID. needless to say that didn’t last much longer. was fun while it lasted though!
April 9th, 2009 at 7:15 am
Oh goodness 4eva, I know what you mean by that. Look at the very first time he started against San Diego 2 years ago. His first pass was to San Diego ( I believe it was the 2nd or 3rd play of the game). That guy from SD was probably surprised as heck to get that one!
I agree…give him the complete puzzle and then we may see what he can do. At least we all hope!
April 9th, 2009 at 7:17 am
Under Rob Ryan no unit or individual performed well with the exception of Nnamdi, why pick on Safety?
You could argue Chris Johnson and K Morrison did ok but a new DC was 2 years overdue.
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Mistabrown: couldn’t agree more. tell that to S&B. you guys will argue for 6 months about it. haha
April 9th, 2009 at 7:18 am
Mistabrown,
good morning. Outside of RodWood and Turner (RIP), safety has been crappy since Vann McElroy. Ain’t blaming Robbo for that.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:21 am
Intersting quote from Garcia…Walter appears to be a non-person at Raider HQ:
Garcia: “Well, I think it’s already being established right now. I’m up here in Oakland right now taking part in the quarterback school with Jamarcus and Bruce Gradkowski and we’re working on just the fundamentals of playing the position, the leadership qualities that you have to have, the work ethic, getting in the weight room. I think JaMarcus, being able to see how myself and how Bruce work as far as what we do in the classroom, what we do in the weight room and what we do on the field, it’s something positive for him to see. I don’t think he’s had those types of guys around him to help him push him or help him understand what it takes to be a true professional at this level.”
April 9th, 2009 at 7:23 am
No Rob Ryan isnt to blame for the years he wasnt here but he was here too long and his unit performed in the high 20’s or low 30’s.
You could go down the list of not so good DC’s before RR. Alot of Raider fans liked Willie Shaw but IMO he was garbage.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:30 am
Andrew Walter at 26 years old has been ousted by 39 year old Jeff Garcia and Bruce Gradkowski?
He was a stud in college.
Is it safe to call AW a bust in the NFL yet?
April 9th, 2009 at 7:31 am
BO unless you know what question JG was asked its hard to read between the lines there.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:33 am
Im not going to argue with S&B I already have one boob I set straight on a daily basis his name is OakGlenn. S&B is all yours.
# RaiderRockstar Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 7:17 am
Mistabrown: couldn’t agree more. tell that to S&B. you guys will argue for 6 months about it. haha
April 9th, 2009 at 7:33 am
Rockstar, I know what you mean about Asian women. There is one here that is a Grandma that still looks GREAT! You know, heard the term MILF millions of times…but now there is a GILF. LOL…
About Walter…I wonder if he will flourish under another system. That guy broke almost all, or all of Elways records in school. What happened?
April 9th, 2009 at 7:37 am
Andrew’sMom’s kid was a 3rd rounder yes? I remember thinking he was an excellent choice when the Raiders got him. Broke Elway’s Pac-10 QB record. C’est la crapshoot!
April 9th, 2009 at 7:42 am
RRS..
No Walter isnt a bust, he just is on the roster in hapless and hopeless team..
April 9th, 2009 at 7:46 am
had Walter been a Saint, at bills, a cowboy or a patsie, he would be a steal!
April 9th, 2009 at 7:47 am
Morning to you guys…
April 9th, 2009 at 7:53 am
Walter may or may not be an NFL bust, but he is definitely a Raider bust. I doubt they’ll even get a sixth-rounder for him.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:55 am
Mistabrown, LMN & BSJ:
what do you guys think about post #435 ?
whats your take?
April 9th, 2009 at 7:55 am
Mistabrown Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 7:31 am
BO unless you know what question JG was asked its hard to read between the lines there.
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Sorry, question was “How are you going to handle mentoring JaMarcus Russell from the sidelines?”
April 9th, 2009 at 7:57 am
Too bad Kenny Easley(old Seakhawk) doesnt have a kid coming out of college. He was a hitting safety. I always thought he would be a Raider later in his career, but it never happened.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:58 am
RRS..
i think he will flunk if we dont get him any help, thats why i want O-line in 1st and Robiskie in 2nd..
its the same as with Walter, no QB can play up to par under these pathetic circumstances..
many here have been talking about Toomer or Holt, but im more for Marvin Harrison if we should get a seasoned FA wr..
April 9th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Im not going to even try and project his numbers. So many things have to click for the Qb to be successful. O-Line, WR’s, TE’s etc. JR needs to improve his accuracy and when nothing is there take off running.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:09 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 6:47 am
I have a question for all you guys. a serious question
Everyone expects Russell to blossom in his 2nd full season as a starter. He now has 1 HC, 1 play caller, experienced QB coach and a veteran mentor. He will have a year of film to review and perfect his own game.
Last year he completed 54 perecent of his passes. QB rating of 77. 2423 yards. 13 TD to 8 INT’s. sacked 31 times. He fumbled 11 times, losing 7 of them. That’s 15 turnovers to 14 TD’s (he had 1 rush TD) in what was basically his rookie season as far as playing time goes.
If we do nothing else to build the WR corps or o-line in the draft, what do you project his stats next year will look like?
S&B and many others think that the OL & WR corps are in good shape with Henderson replacing Harris and a healthy McFadden, Walker & Shields. Also more playing time for Higgins, Schilens & Bush.
please let me know what you think. what are Russell’s numbers next season with no further improvements on offense?
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I predict (if healthy for 16 games) JRUSS will complete 60%, rating of 80ish, 3000 yards, and around 20 TDs and INTs. I expect more attempts and eventually even audibles under Hackett/Tollner, more complexity, and thus more INTs. Conversely, I bet he fumbles less due to a better line, better footwork, and improved checkdown execution.
Also, I am hoping to see a QB draw from the shotgun when we need around 5-7 yards. The kid is just too big not to use this play when the opponent is in max pass rush. In general, Hackett/Tollner need to improve Russell’s awareness under center when he sees the heat coming. To me, the biggest question mark for JRUSS (bust or superstar?) will be whether he can accurately read a defense set, predict his open receivers and/or audible to plays that victimize. In other words, can he think at least half as well as he can throw.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:09 am
Harrison?…ya right,..hes a washed up bum,..kinda like you La Mary Negra,…cant wait to hear your naxt brainstorm.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:09 am
#446
I can see why he didnt mention AW the question was directed at JG mentoring JR. Having said that AW prob has 1 foot out the door.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:10 am
Oh dang, almost forgot,..draft Rey at 7.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:13 am
I know it has been hard on Huff moving from position to position. But the problem I have with Huff, which just mind boggles me is this guy would hit hard in college man. He would lay people out. Remember that guy when they played USC? He was all over the filed. Now it could be a confidence thing as well. But big hitters who really like to hit, will sooner or later blast someone in a game even if they are out of position. They will find a way to make a play. Huff, is just a lot less agressive than he showed on film at Texas.
I thought Huff was good pick for us at the time. Not great but good. I thought Huff was a safe pick, that is what all the draft analysts were sayign as well. Boy were we wrong or what. Maybe Huff will develop into a good player one day but I can’t figure out what happen to his tenasity to make good square powerful hits!
April 9th, 2009 at 8:15 am
Morning Norco Bob.With Big Al not letting Hererra or Cable available 2 the media after signing Garcia its looking exactly as you said:Big Al is NOT at all happy with Jmac
April 9th, 2009 at 8:15 am
narko bob…
he at lest would be a better pick than toomer, than the braintrust here has suggested…
but again try to read what i wrote, I said IF we should get a seasoned WR… I would prefer none, all I want is Robiskie…
April 9th, 2009 at 8:16 am
thanks guys. good posts all around!
April 9th, 2009 at 8:18 am
Yes I have already smoked a little weed this morning,..maybe I have popped 3 Norcos also,…but Im tellin ya, Jeff Garcia emerges from Napa to start San Diego game,…I see Russell getting very frustrated that the job he feels is his due to always being given that job, well he will not take to competition at all,..he will not know how to handle it,..never has he had to earn a job,…he goes into the tank,…thank God Garcia is here to guide the team for 16 games,..Walter,..Tui,..Grad,..all bums,…Iv been saying this,…look for the Raiders to draft Sanchez at 7….then he sits behind Garcia for a year.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:20 am
La Mary Negra,..figures a loser like you has his sights set extremely low to pine away for a wr thats a 2nd day pick,…is that why you were ran outta the USA and into the last 3rd world country with white people in it?..because you are borderline retarded?…it all makes sense now.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Dakota,
I was LMAO at the pictures. If Bynum plays, I’ll stay up tomorrow to watch it. We’ll need him because of the Cav’s home record.
Nuggets all the way this year baby
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Look for Brandon “the natrual” ROY and the Blazers to emergre Friday as well as in the west!!!!$
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Soory Morining nation….Narco slow down bro……thats some goooood shizzzel if thats how you think trianing camo will go down… LOL Sanchez…LOL…LMAO…anyways!!
O-line for ‘09
April 9th, 2009 at 8:22 am
narko bob..
you really should stop taking pills and smoke at the same time, it makes you very stupid…
LOL “ran outta the USA” LOL
April 9th, 2009 at 8:24 am
Stoney Case, Eric Zeier, Bobby Hoying, Jonathan Quinn, Brian Griese, Brock Huard, Giovanni Carmazzi, Chris Redman, Josh McCown, Dave Ragone, Chris Simms, Matt Schaub, Charlie Frye, David Greene, Andrew Walter.
All of these guys were 3rd round picks selected over the past few years.
1 of them is a starter (Schaub), Griese, McCown, Simms and Frye were once given a starting job and they failed, they’re all journeymen today.
Why would anyone think Andrew Walter would be a “star” somewhere else?.
Fans of every team always think they drafted the next great young QB (myself included) and it rarely works out.
AW will become just another journeymen once he’s out of here, we just have to hope someone still likes him enough as a back-up to give us a 6th or a 7th rounder, I doubt it.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:24 am
La Mary, I also find it funny you were ran outta here. Please stay.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Marley..
I still dont think we have seen the last of Frye..
April 9th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Away. lol
April 9th, 2009 at 8:26 am
narko bob…
you dont know what you are talking about, so lets make a deal, lets not talk to each other.. thanks…
April 9th, 2009 at 8:27 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 8:15 am
narko bob…
he at lest would be a better pick than toomer, than the braintrust here has suggested…
but again try to read what i wrote, I said IF we should get a seasoned WR… I would prefer none, all I want is Robiskie…
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Why are you so “high” on Robiskie? I watched him at PSU games and sometimes he just does not show up. Now his best QB was Troy Williams and that was Robo’s best season his sophmore year. Right now he looks like a good third option WR on a team but I just never saw a lot of consistancy to make the big play in Robiskie. Plus, I saw him drop some easy catches in big games that floored me. Championship aginst Florida two years ago was one of those moments(Alone in the endzone).
April 9th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Marley…
then you should list up the guys from the 6th and 7th round or undrafted… like Brady, Warner and Garcia..
April 9th, 2009 at 8:29 am
Oh man,..La Mary,..first you obsess over a wr that sucks and only gets half a look due to last name, and even then only in Oakland by living in tha past types like you,..and now you are drooling over Frye coming here,…whats with you La Mary?…have you always been such a loser you have only set your sights low?…hmmm,..you got ran outta the USA,…you like soccer, (thats a lock for being a loser),…and you only post about loser players that nobody else wants,..is this why you were laughed out of this country and into a country that sucks?…hey why not, you fit in there.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:30 am
CJ..
I like him because he can contribute from day one, where as Maclin and Crabtree has much more to learn…
they might overtake him in 2-3 years, but as of september Robiskie will be more game ready…
Robiskie is this years Eddie Royal, I was all for him last season too, and guys in here said no…
April 9th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Legend,..La Mary Negra is high on Roiskie because hes an idiot,..thats all you need to know.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Man, those are some powerful drugs to make someone fantasize that a scrawny happy-footed noodle-armed guy with one foot in the retirement grave is gonna be anointed the Raiders’ starting QB. Wow.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:31 am
good morning CJ Legend 34, OAKlifer, Bob Marley …
what do you guys think about post #435 ?
whats your take?
April 9th, 2009 at 8:31 am
norco go to sleep…
I dont want Frye here, have i said so?? no!
I said we havent seen him for the last time…
re you just slow, or why do you need everything twice??
April 9th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Later people,…Im heading to Santa Cruz for the day,…I need to get drunk and stoned and high on Vicodin after dealing with La Mary Negra for a few minutes,..sucks that there aare Raider fans so lost,..thank God they NEVER go to games.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:35 am
Lonetree,..tell you what, someone was either high, stoned,..or likely just an old fool that drafted someone number one overall a couple years ago and gave him a 62 million dollar deal,..and for what?…sucking at LSU,..not winning a title,..oh, but LSU won multiple titles,…AS LONG AS RUSSELL WASNT UNDER CENTER!!!!!!
April 9th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Im out,..now I need to pop another pill after reading some of these suckers in here that still for some reason think Russell is an nfl qb,..he isnt, never will be,…but hey,..looks good in a full length mink while drivin his white Rolls Royce,..will give him that much.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:40 am
LMN, narko hasn’t had any credibility in here since he first posted. I don’t know if he gets paid to post here & undermine this place or it’s the narkos. Any Raider fan saying the stupidiest stuff like trade JR/CUT JR/start Garcia doesn’t have the Raiders best interest. I’ve always thought Narc is MR’s sock puppet.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:42 am
# Mistabrown Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Im not going to even try and project his numbers. So many things have to click for the Qb to be successful. O-Line, WR’s, TE’s etc. JR needs to improve his accuracy and when nothing is there take off running.
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Wow. mistabrown shows a firm grasp of the most rudimentary elements of the passing game here. For it to be successful all the components must work. Sheer brilliance. You guys make sure you keep it simple for him: the kicker on a football team kicks. That’s his level. And BTW, Q’s accuracy almost always improve once he has been in one system for a few years. Jamarcus has run two different offenses in his first 15 games. Maybe that has something to do with his accuracy in addition to being a first year starter.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:45 am
CJ Legend 34
I think Huff was coming along after his first 2 seasons at SS, he was the guy who was able to stop every TE we faced from having a good game, specially Gonzalez and Gates.
The move to FS seemed like a smart move at the time, he’s fast, big and can cover but he lacks the instincts to play the position, despite his amazing athletic skills the guy is probably a better fit at SS for us.
So the FS move was a disaster but he’s shown he can be a decent player at SS and he fits the latest NFL trend that has teams looking for Safeties that can cover.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Five Qs with Ike Ekejiuba
Raiders special team star Isaiah Ekejiuba didn’t have to come back to this place, he really didn’t.
As an unrestricted free agent, he was unsigned and free to leave when the market opened Feb. 27. By midnight, his agent Steve Wasielewski had fielded several calls and had multiple offers on the table in no time.
The Raiders delivered a deal that showed how badly they wanted Ekejiuba back, making it easy for the team co-captain to re-sign by offering him a three-year, $5.4 million deal with a $1.25 million signing bonus and $2.45 million frontloaded in the first year.
That’s a record deal, by the way, for a pure special teams player outside of kickers and punters. It’s a whopping deal considering Ekejiuba has played 18 defensive snaps in four years.
“The Raiders wanted him back and Isaiah wanted to stay,” Wasielewski said. “They made an offer that made it easy for him.”
With the ink well-dried on the deal, Ekejiuba took time out from voluntary offseason workouts in Alameda to answer five burning questions.
Q: The Raiders re-signed every core member of a very strong special teams unit, most recently Sam Williams. Thoughts?
A: “It’s wonderful. It gives us that extra year we played together. I don’t have to worry about what Sam Williams is doing because I played 16 games with him. Our core guys are back and we going to be just that much more dangerous.”
Q: The NFL passed several rules that make certain special-team fixtures illegal. Let’s start with the abolishment of three-man wedges on kickoffs.
A: “Me running down on kickoffs, I’m glad. I don’t want to run into a wedge. But some of the smaller returners need a wedge to protect themselves. Guys may be taking open shots at them. The whole protection issue with the wedge is why they did it, but if you don’t have thaqt wedge of protection, somebody’s running full speed at an 180-pound returner. It’s give or take. Are you going to protect the guys smashing into the wedge and hurt the returner? One way or the other, you expose somebody.”
Q: What about the rule that doesn’t allow teams to load up on one side for onsides kickoffs?
A: “Onsides kicks have won or lost a lot of games. This is something you practice every day. I didn’t think it was that bad. Now, if you have five people to one side and have a good kicker like we do, it can work to our benefit. (Sebastian Janikowski) can onside kick to both sides. But for some teams, sometimes five people might not do it. I don’t know why that special teams’ rule came about but the way it was was fine with me.”
Q: How nice is it to be on a win streak that will last at least eight months for a change?
A: “It’s crazy. It’s been awhile since we even won a December game, period. It’s been awhile since we ended the season on a winning note so it’s a good feeling. You can go into the offseason knowing what you need to fix but you have momentum.”
Q: Eighteen-game season: good idea?
A: “Man, I don’t know how I feel about it. It’s a very long season already, so if you have a few more games … and if you’re in the playoffs, you’re tired. The more games you play, the longer it’s going to take for your body to recover in the offseason, so I don’t know.”
-David White (SF Chronicle)
April 9th, 2009 at 8:48 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 6:47 am
please let me know what you think. what are Russell’s numbers next season with no further improvements on offense?
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Morning Double R,
58.8% comp (lower due to more and deeper throws)
26 TD (higher due to more and deeper throws)
18 INT (Middle of the road due to game experince and vet leader ship and continuity)
4 rushing TD (love that shot gun draw post earlier)
3200 yrds
12.8yrds average
O-line for ‘09
April 9th, 2009 at 8:48 am
RaiderTW…
yeah, and yet he acts like he is cool popping all those pills… LOL, one thing is sure, he cant read, LOL
is he gone yet?
April 9th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Narko’s drug use is an act, if he had any sense as a drug user he would keep it quite but because he’s lying he plays it up too good. “Waste” of time to talk to him either way.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:52 am
La Milicia Negra,
A few guys with AKs commandeer ships for ransom off the Somali coast and people are outraged.
But where is the outrage when multinational corps go into some place, pay off the local leaders and then strip the land of all its worth to be put onto those container ships leaving the region and its surviving inhabitants in ruin?
April 9th, 2009 at 8:53 am
he fits the latest NFL trend that has teams looking for Safeties that can cover.
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Gibril Wilson was a guy (like Roy Williams) that was a big hitter, but a liability in pass coverage.
Michael Huff is a guy that can cover anybody in the league, but isn’t the guy you’d want to put down in the box. He’s not going to drop the hammer on bigger RB’s, TE’s or even WR’s.
That is why Huff is a better FS than SS and will be playing deep (centerfield) in Marshall’s defense. He will be ball hawking and helping WR’s in coverage. Thats what he is good at and what he excelled in at Texas.
Al Davis and Tom Cable are hoping Tyvon Branch is the best of both worlds, but when you get injured on a kick return with no contact it doesn’t really prove you’re a durable player. does it?
Hiram Eugene should be considered nothing more than good depth and competition.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:56 am
RTW…
true!
April 9th, 2009 at 8:57 am
M..
I dont know what you want me to say? or was it just a statement you felt you had to get rid off??
April 9th, 2009 at 8:57 am
Angels pitcher Nick Adenhart was killed in a traffic accident.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:59 am
M…
Puntland is without leaders, adn the cargo was going TO somalia, it was food..
April 9th, 2009 at 9:01 am
I just got in, don’t know if yall saw this.
RIP Nick Adenhart!
Angels rookie right-hander Nick Adenhart died early Thursday morning in a car accident in Fullerton, Calif., a family member told television station WHAG, located in the pitcher’s native Maryland.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Is anybody else concerned with the amount of times Russell will be sacked next season or his fumble problem?
Jeff Garcia was sacked 23 times compared to Russell’s 31. He lost 2 fumbles compared to Russell’s 7. He had more passing yards. Better completion percentage. Better QB Rating. Fewer INT’s
I think Garcia could help Russell a lot…
The Raiders offense looks similar to the Bucs offense minus Jeff Faine and Antonio Bryant.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:04 am
I am concerned about the sacks, that is why we need ANDRE SMITH!
April 9th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Former OSU RB Wells Snubs Broncos
A league source tells us that Ohio State running back Chris “Beanie” Wells was supposed to visit the Broncos on Wednesday.
Per the source, Wells missed his flight.
And, as a result, Wells didn’t show for the meeting.
It’s unknown at this point whether the Broncos were informed that Wells wouldn’t be there, or whether some dude dressed in black is still holding a sign that says “Beanie” in the Denver airport.
If so, we assume that anyone nearby is standing upwind.
guufffaaawww, lololol
April 9th, 2009 at 9:05 am
COOPER HONORED
The Arizona Diamondbacks made a nice gesture toward the family of Raiders linebacker Marquis Cooper by having Cooper’s father, Bruce, throw out the first pitch in the team’s regular-season opener Monday.
The Diamondbacks reached out to Bruce Cooper as part of their tribute to his son and the two others who were lost at sea in a boating accident in the Gulf of Mexico on Feb. 28.
Marquis Cooper and the two others weren’t found and are presumed dead. Only one of the four men who took part in the fishing expedition survived. He was rescued by the U.S. Coast Guard after 40 hours or so adrift at sea.
“The support from this state and across the country, really, has just been overwhelming,” Cooper said at the baseball game.
Bruce Cooper is the sports anchor on Channel 12 News in Phoenix. He said he fought back tears while watching a video tribute on his son that the Diamondbacks played on the video screen before the game.
Marquis Cooper played eight games for the Raiders last season. The Raiders have yet to announce how they plan to honor Cooper this season.
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Kudos to the d-backs. Now thats class and compassion at it finest …
April 9th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Looked back into Huff’s scouting reports when he came out in 06.
They made him sound like a mix between Ed Reed and Polamalu with some Nnamdi thrown in…
- “Huff played both cornerback and strong safety in 2005 with most of his reps at the strong safety position. He has big-play ability as a defender, combining size, speed and quickness with the agility and ball instincts to play immediately.
He has the talent to become a top-flight starting safety or corner. He has the athletic ability that allows him to be a top ball-hawk in coverage, in addition to being a hard nosed run-support defender.
He has excellent combination of size and versatility, has played and been productive at every position in the secondary during his college career. He played mostly safety of late, but many scouts project him at corner in the NFL.
He made all the calls in the secondary and did a lot in guiding and helping to develop his teammates. His range and recovery speed are excellent. He has fine overall body strength. He has a feel for recognizing routes and reading the intentions of the quarterback.
He is a reliable tackler from sideline to sideline. He is a high-character guy who would be a team-leader in the secondary.”
- “Versatile defender effective at several spots in the secondary. Smart cover man who jams opponents at the line of scrimmage, loses nothing transitioning off the snap and runs anywhere on the field with wideouts.
Stays with receivers laterally and does an outstanding job diagnosing the action. Displays a decisive move to the throw and takes good angles to the action. Plays with a nasty attitude as well as a good degree of intelligence.
Considered a hard-working, self-motivated prospect by scouts, Huff has outstanding skill in coverage and run defense. He has the ability to impact a team at any number of spots in the defensive secondary.”
Huff isn’t close to living up to those lofty projections, but I have to admit it makes me want to give the guy another shot…
April 9th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Anyone named Wells (and Napoleon apparently) should be playing for the Raiders.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Jarron Gilbert is going to change the course of someone’s career on April 25, the first day of the 2009 NFL Draft.
The 6-foot-5, 288-pound defensive lineman from San Jose State has been rocketing up teams’ draft boards based on strong performances at the NFL Scouting Combine in February and the San Jose State-Cal Poly Pro Day workouts in March.
Gilbert is the son of former New Orleans Saints offensive tackle Daren Gilbert. He is an impressive athlete with great agility and above-average speed.
Gilbert has played both defensive end and tackle during his football career. Last season, he started all 12 games at defensive tackle.
Many scouts project Gilbert as a great fit as a defensive end in a 3-4 scheme.
Gilbert tends to wear down as games progress. He loses his closing burst and has a penchant for disappearing for long stretches at the end of the first half and the end of games.
He is better suited to play on the inside than on the edge, by most accounts. As a defensive tackle, Gilbert is too one-dimensional. He always attempts to shoot the gaps between offensive linemen so that he can penetrate the backfield.
Too often, he was eliminated from plays if his initial attack was blocked or tied up by blockers.
Gilbert also needs to learn to play at a high level on a consistent basis if he is going to be a productive NFL starter.
He sometimes dominates in a game. Other times, he is difficult to spot on the field because he gets lost in a sea of bodies without making much of an impact.
He has the potential to be a standout player. However, it’s a red flag to prospective employers that it took it took three years for Gilbert to emerge as a top-notch player.
His impressive workouts are more reflective of the type of athlete Gilbert is and less so of the type of football player he is in games.
Gilbert has the potential to develop into a productive starter in the NFL if he winds up in the right situation and responds well to coaching.
There’s also the potential for him to wind up a huge bust if he gets pressed into the playing the wrong position or doesn’t continue to develop more inside moves and increase his stamina.
The Raiders are in need of a reliable pass-rusher at right defensive end and a run-stopper inside. They attended Gilbert’s workout and know quite well what he is capable of doing.
Don’t be surprised if the Raiders select Gilbert in the second or third round if he’s still available.
-Raider Beat
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Here ya go S&B … nice write up on your boy. Sounds a lot like Tommy Kelly
April 9th, 2009 at 9:09 am
A stong safety is not a linebacker.
He is simply a defensive back.
His first priority is not to stop the run.
Wilson was second on our team in tackles because we do not have a defensive line.
We can not accurately assess Raider LB and DB play when they are playing behind traffic cones.
Fix the Dline and we might start to win some games.
The stats and our record over the past five years support this reality.
Yes, a better offense would help the defense, but good defense consistently wins championships and produces winning records.
We have the worst record in the NFL over the last six years. This is not hard to figure out.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:11 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 8:59 am
M…
Puntland is without leaders, adn the cargo was going TO somalia, it was food..
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Are you sure? You mean via Kenya?
April 9th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Dakota Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:04 am
I am concerned about the sacks, that is why we need ANDRE SMITH!
Or Oher.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Rockstar
“That is why Huff is a better FS than SS and will be playing deep (centerfield) in Marshall’s defense. He will be ball hawking and helping WR’s in coverage. Thats what he is good at and what he excelled in at Texas.”
Didn’t we just try that last season and it got Huff benched?.
IMO, he’s not that kind of player, you need instincts and the ability to recognize a play and stop it before it develops, otherwise you are left chasing the guy with the ball every time.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Marley Esq.,
after reading that scouting report I say we sure as anything should draft that can’t miss safety!
April 9th, 2009 at 9:19 am
I played free safety and WR in HS and at a JC. We ran a man defense and the safeties had deep half responsibility (basically a cover 2). The Raiders run a cover 1 and at times a cover 0. Deep half responsibilty was a fairly tough assignment but deep middle would be nearly impossible. Imagine being responsidle for defending the whole middle of the field and still being asked to come up and make plays in the running game. Huff did not play particularly well or make many plays last year because he was plying conservatively, he has to make sure that no receiver gets behind him so to be asked to protect the whole field (especially when Hall is at one corner and Routt is your nickel) come up and defend the run, and make plays on the ball in flight is a tough, tough assignment.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Didn’t we just try that last season and it got Huff benched?.
IMO, he’s not that kind of player, you need instincts and the ability to recognize a play and stop it before it develops, otherwise you are left chasing the guy with the ball every time.
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5 starts at FS doesn’t tell you all you need to know about a player. DeAngelo Hall was in that secondary for pete’s sake!
Cable was wrong to bench him after only 5 starts at FS. Only one of those starts was under’s Cable’s watch anyways. Nnamdi Asomugha even called him out for that. Last year should have been Huff’s third year at FS …
Cable thinks Eugene is better than Huff, but he also thought Harris was better than Henderson. Remember? You gotta question this guy’s eye for talent … Hopefully John Marshall has the freedom to put the best players on the field and in their right positions.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:22 am
SnB
I thought you were all for drafting “football players” intead of “height-weigh-speed projects”.
Sounds to me like Gilbert is exactly the kind of guy you don’t want us drafting…
“The 6-foot-5, 288-pound defensive lineman from San Jose State has been rocketing up teams’ draft boards based on strong performances at the NFL Scouting Combine in February and the San Jose State-Cal Poly Pro Day workouts in March.
Gilbert tends to wear down as games progress. He loses his closing burst and has a penchant for disappearing for long stretches at the end of the first half and the end of games.
He is better suited to play on the inside than on the edge, by most accounts. As a defensive tackle, Gilbert is too one-dimensional. He always attempts to shoot the gaps between offensive linemen so that he can penetrate the backfield.
Too often, he was eliminated from plays if his initial attack was blocked or tied up by blockers. Gilbert also needs to learn to play at a high level on a consistent basis if he is going to be a productive NFL starter.
He sometimes dominates in a game. Other times, he is difficult to spot on the field because he gets lost in a sea of bodies without making much of an impact.
He has the potential to be a standout player. However, it’s a red flag to prospective employers that it took it took three years for Gilbert to emerge as a top-notch player.
His impressive workouts are more reflective of the type of athlete Gilbert is and less so of the type of football player he is in games.
Gilbert has the potential to develop into a productive starter in the NFL if he winds up in the right situation and responds well to coaching.
There’s also the potential for him to wind up a huge bust if he gets pressed into the playing the wrong position or doesn’t continue to develop more inside moves and increase his stamina.”
April 9th, 2009 at 9:22 am
DirtyRaccoon Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Dakota Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:04 am
I am concerned about the sacks, that is why we need ANDRE SMITH!
Or Oher.
_________________
I’d settle for Oher, but not if Andre is still on the board.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Dakota,
you kept up with the Draft McFadden chant last year until it echoed off the walls of the inner sanctum in Alameda. Keep up the howls for an OT and it might just work again.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:24 am
M
“after reading that scouting report I say we sure as anything should draft that can’t miss safety!”.
Lol…agreed, trade up, if you must!.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:25 am
BSJ…
yeah, the food was going to Somalia and Uganda..
arent you getting tired of questioning me all the time?
April 9th, 2009 at 9:26 am
btw.. Dakota and BSJ…
you should read this..
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090408/ap_on_re_af/piracy
they didnt hire the crew to act like “heroes”..
April 9th, 2009 at 9:27 am
That’s the plan M.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Im out…
Soccer game! =) see ya guys, take care
April 9th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Mike Mayock:
“This is by far the worst year for the top 10 that I’ve seen. Down around 18, 20, you’ll get every bit the player you’ll get in the top 10 for a third of the price.”
Agreed, that’s why I’ve been saying for weeks that I don’t like the position we’re in.
2009 and 2010 1st rounders for Julius Peppers and let’s move on to pick 40….
April 9th, 2009 at 9:31 am
from ESPN:
“The Raiders were the only team in the league to reach the end zone in fewer than half of their goal-to-go situations last year. Here are the five teams with the worst touchdown percentage in goal-to-go situations in 2008.
Raiders, 47.6%
Bengals, 50.0%
Rams, 53.3%
Steelers, 58.6%
Bills, 60.0% ”
OT in 1st. Barden in 2nd.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Rockstar
Well, agree to disagree, wherever they put him, let’s hope it works out this time.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Bob, I agreed with getting Peppers, does that mean we go 3-4?
April 9th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Another Bengal arrested…and they signed Tank Johnson, AKA the guy that opened a Hydrema arms dealership franchise in his house. Where is the outrage at the Bungholes? Imagine iof the Raiders had done the things the Bungholes have done over the past 5 years…
…maybe I am just missing it and the talking heads are condemning the Bungholes for this stuff, but I just haven’t seen any commentator even rebuke them in a long time.
Also, I thought the Commish was going to start punishing teams for their player’s actions? Why haven’t the Bungholes started to get fines or have draft picks taken away?
I am outraged!
Draft Andre Smith!
April 9th, 2009 at 9:34 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:25 am
BSJ…
yeah, the food was going to Somalia and Uganda..
arent you getting tired of questioning me all the time?
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Stop being so wrong. As you said to Copenhagen, if you don’t like it get the eff out.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Guess Mayock hasn’t been reading the press clippings about Jason Smith, Eugene Monroe, Curry and the QBs.
It would all be solved if there was a rookie salary cap. Then draft busts would not hamstring the losing franchises with their ungodly salaries. How is it the powers that be – NFLPA and owners – can’t understand something so simple and rectifiable?
April 9th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Good morning.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:40 am
TW
“I agreed with getting Peppers, does that mean we go 3-4?.”
No, it means you take the 30 plus million it’s gonna take to sign the 7th pick and next year’s first and you put it into the new deal Peppers is looking for, once he gets paid, you won’t hear any 3-4 talk coming from him.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:40 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:26 am
btw.. Dakota and BSJ…
you should read this..
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090408/ap_on_re_af/piracy
they didnt hire the crew to act like “heroes”..
_______________________
WTF is your point? If they hadn’t acted like “heroes” they would be acting like “hostages” right now. Good for them that they didn’t listen to the advice of puzzies.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:43 am
I hear ya Bob, Peppers is good for an int for a TD 2-3 times a year. The guy’s always in position. I’d love to see bookends with Burgess.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Marley Esq.,
as you know I may not agree with the pursuance of Peppers if it requires giving up two firsts, but kudos on recommending a pro bowler as an acquisition this year rather than…well, you know, last year’s guy.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Talent we should target:
1- J Smith/ Monroe/ Curry/ Orakpo/ Raji
2- M Johnson/ Ayers/ Brace/ Moore/ Robiskie
3- Ramses B/ Bruton/ OLB Freeman/ Samie
4- J Williams/ T Taylor/ Clemons
April 9th, 2009 at 9:51 am
I’m not sure we could get Peppers for the #7 overall.
Look what the Chiefs got for Jared Allen!
I’m not willing to give up that many draft picks. This team is not done rebuilding
April 9th, 2009 at 9:52 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:26 am
btw.. Dakota and BSJ…
you should read this..
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090408/ap_on_re_af/piracy
they didnt hire the crew to act like “heroes”..
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Classic European-style finger pointing. Blame the crew for Maersk’s inability to protect their ship from a well known threat. Maersk has the responsiblity to implement effective counter measures and policies to protect the crew from pirates, including high pressure hoses, high speed transit, and noise devices to dissuade pirates. Moreover, in these seas Maersk should ask the USN for an escort of a US FLAGGED SHIP! That is one of the primary responsibilities of the Navy – protecting US flagged vessels, especially since there are only 400 or so US flagged container ships worldwide and likely just a couple in that region.
But no, you blame the crew for trying to be heroes. The Americans probably realized what your corporate leaders do not – Twenty American hostages in Somalia is unacceptable, regardless of your insurance scheme or the limited value of the cargo. Americans are hated there for many reasons and would not likely be treated as other Asian crews.
The responsibility lies with Maersk – THE ONLY SHIPPING LINE TO GET A CONTAINER VESSEL TAKEN BY THESE PIRATES! The crew was left to compensate for bad company policy and protect themselves. But go ahead and whine about the crew, while you sit back and watch soccer in your Arab headscarf.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:52 am
A rookie salary-cap is what is needed and will save our beloved NFL,imo
April 9th, 2009 at 9:53 am
I agree with you BOB
We give Peppers the 20-30 Million we would give the #7 pick and we have a guy to build our defense around(Peppers and Nnamdi)a good start to building a solid defense.
I also agree with the fact that as soon as he sees 30 Million dollars he will forget all about his desire to be in a 3-4 defense.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Dakota Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:40 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:26 am
btw.. Dakota and BSJ…
you should read this..
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090408/ap_on_re_af/piracy
they didnt hire the crew to act like “heroes”..
_______________________
WTF is your point? If they hadn’t acted like “heroes” they would be acting like “hostages” right now. Good for them that they didn’t listen to the advice of puzzies.
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CONCUR
April 9th, 2009 at 9:55 am
The Lions signed Dylan Gandy & George Foster to their o-line this week. They must be sticking with the zbs
Maybe we can trade Cornell Green & Chris Morris to them in exchange for a 5th or 6th Round pick?
April 9th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Bo,
Well said. Maybe if these greedy companies, like LMN’s, would spend the money to place armed guards on the cargo ships there wouldn’t be a hijacking ever other fuking day. The pirates know there is little risk, so why the hell wouldn’t they take these ships?
The companies just want their ships back in one piece, sans bullet holes, and who cares if some of the crew members are executed?
April 9th, 2009 at 9:58 am
I also agree with the fact that as soon as he sees 30 Million dollars he will forget all about his desire to be in a 3-4 defense.
***
Peppers will want $30 mil for 2 years of service. Better hope he doesn’t have a year like 2003 or 2007, where he was basically a non factor. If Al Davis wanted a vet DE he’d sign Ebenezer Ekuban …
April 9th, 2009 at 10:04 am
BSJ,
I own a few Arabic headscarfs. I have a white and black which is from Palest!ne, and a red and white which is for Jordan. They call them Hattas.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Rockstar,
throw in a mop handle with Green (as it his weapon of choice for beating back those nasty D-lineman) and the deal might go through.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Raider O Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:04 am
BSJ,
I own a few Arabic headscarfs. I have a white and black which is from Palest!ne, and a red and white which is for Jordan. They call them Hattas
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Hey, everyone needs to wash their car now and then…
April 9th, 2009 at 10:07 am
They cost $2 over there. lol
April 9th, 2009 at 10:09 am
The last time Americans didn’t act like “heros” they found their plane crashing into the World Trade Center.
Americans will not make that mistake again.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:09 am
You guys should try ShamWows instead…
April 9th, 2009 at 10:10 am
JaMarcus Russell should make a play for Gabrielle Union. She’s smokin’ hot
She divorced former Jags RB Chris Howard 3 years ago and she’s from Pleasanton.
If Jeff Garcia can bag Carmella DeCesare, Tony Parker can bag Eva Longoria and Tom Brady can bag Gisele Bündchen we know it’s possible.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Cornell “Mop Handle” Green
April 9th, 2009 at 10:13 am
I wear My Scarfs, they represent my Family. I have family from both countries. But hey, when you own it, you can do What Ever You Want With It.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:15 am
OALGLENN:
I logged off about this time yesterday so I missed the brawl with Dude.
You were throwing some seriously funny stuff at him and Dude didn’t get any of it. I sat here reading the posts in the morning and damn near choked on my cereal.
“The Dalai Lama in his Barcolounger”!!! LOL
Dude didn’t know he was being run over by a train, he thought he was engaging in witty repartee.
Of course, Dude thinks witty is something to eat and repartee is a condiment.
If he’s a Raider fan he has a right to criticize the team given the last hellish six years since where we’ve All been smashing our heads on the wall anyway, but he seems to come on just to pss on everyone’s parade.
You got a little support there from the blog except for our troll took Duke’s side. I thought Mr. was more intelligent.
Dude’s last post where he thought he was putting you down but was actually summarizing his performance was great:
“I am fat,out of shape, cheeto eatn, old lady cheatr barista who knows nothing about football. Oh, and I’m a hypocrite. Got it. Sweet. I really sound cool”.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahh!
April 9th, 2009 at 10:20 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:34 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:25 am
BSJ…
yeah, the food was going to Somalia and Uganda..
arent you getting tired of questioning me all the time?
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Stop being so wrong. As you said to Copenhagen, if you don’t like it get the eff out.
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you just cant help yourself, huh?
the S H I P, was going to Kenya, cause their isnt safe ports or deep enough ports in Somalia..
The C A R G O, i.e Food, was going to Uganda and Somalia..
I would never correct you on engine issues, but you seem to know everything, it must be great…
April 9th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Triple Six,
yep, everybody’s gotta have a nickname. Mean Joe, Porkchop, Assassin, Mop Handle. And you just know that opposing D-lineman are gonna rag him with it.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:21 am
“THE ONLY SHIPPING LINE TO GET A CONTAINER VESSEL TAKEN BY THESE PIRATES!”
please explain…
April 9th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Ryan
I forgot about 911 and you should too.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:23 am
SNB666, don’t feel bad. Bush forgot about 9/11 in 2003.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:24 am
M Lonetree
Can you imagine what the D-line players will say to “Mop Handle” when they line up against him next year.
“I know you needed a mop handle to beat your wife….what are you going to use to beat me”
April 9th, 2009 at 10:25 am
# Dakota Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Bo,
Well said. Maybe if these greedy companies, like LMN’s, would spend the money to place armed guards on the cargo ships there wouldn’t be a hijacking ever other fuking day. The pirates know there is little risk, so why the hell wouldn’t they take these ships?
The companies just want their ships back in one piece, sans bullet holes, and who cares if some of the crew members are executed?
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okay, how would these ship get into sovereign Ports?
the pirates just want money, they havent harmed any sailors yet.. all we care about is the crew, when a ship is seized they should stop protecting it, because they didnt stop they themselves set they crew in harms way..
you dont get what a M E R C H A N T ship is, do you??
maybe this will help you…
http://www.admiraltylawguide.com/codes.html
April 9th, 2009 at 10:26 am
I don’t see Tom Cable’s name being brought up enough. Just Al Davis’s, and those of potential draft picks.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:28 am
MR seriously funny!!
yeah I was being a smart azz but how 911 gets brought into these conversations is beyond me. Unless one of you is secretly mayor rudy giuliani.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Raider O…
I have a ‘white N black’ too and ‘red and white’… the first goes nice with my raider gear, and the other with my danish National team jersey =)
Hattas you say, hmm here they call them shehmagh or Kafiyeh.. what do i know =)
April 9th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Cable’s name’s going to be all over this blog if, and when, the team starts losing. Why hardly any mention of him now? As long as it’s preseason optimism, it’s all about Al, I guess. When things go bad, then it’s all about the coach…
April 9th, 2009 at 10:29 am
LMN,
They haven’t harmed any sailors yet? Hmmm, tell that to the hostage the Somali pirates killed in 2007.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Rockstar
“I’m not sure we could get Peppers for the #7 overall.
Look what the Chiefs got for Jared Allen!
I’m not willing to give up that many draft picks. This team is not done rebuilding”.
That’s why I said two first round picks, 2009 and 2010, that should do it.
As far as the rebuilding comment, I agree but…
But who’s gonna help us more over the next 4 to 5 years, an All-Pro DE in Julius Peppers or two, unproven rookies who, statistically, have a 50% chance of failing to live up to expections?.
The division is within reach, maybe as soon as this year, next at the latest, adding a guy like Peppers makes us a better team right away.
And we still have our 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounders this year, to bring in more help, as well as a full slate from 2 to 7 next year.
Look, it’s not happening so this is probably pointless, I’m just saying I would try to do it.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:31 am
John Stewart was spot on yesterday. How can Obama be a limp wristed wuss, and a tyrant set to take over the world, all at once? The two are mutually exclusive. The “real Americans” are going to have to make up their minds. LOL.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:32 am
BSJ…
there was contact to the USN, but the route the ship was going was not a “high-risk” because they should be 550-600 KM out of somali shore… the ship sailed less than 450…
Now the captain sits in a rescue-boat with out any fuel with his 4 captives, with warships around them… that is almost the worst thing that could happen..
April 9th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Dakota..
the chinese vessel? they wouldnt pay the ransom..
April 9th, 2009 at 10:33 am
LMN,
know Kafiyeh, but never heard of Shehmagh. They have Diff names and colors, it depends on the area or tribe.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Dakota..
please tell me how a ship should get into port if it was armed?
you do know that an armed ship in a port is an act of war?
April 9th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Bob Marley, following Tom Cable much? The team’s head coach? Who does Tom Cable want to draft? What kind of system is Tom Cable going to use, and henceforth going to draft for? Is Tom Cable going to draft for need, or take the most talented players? I want to know what’s going on with our head coach. Surely he has a hand in things, right? Because all I’m reading about in here is Al and the players.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Raider O..
that I know =)
April 9th, 2009 at 10:35 am
The old man looks pretty good here
http://www.fanpass.net/gallery/data/500/al_davis.jpg
April 9th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Wow, Adenhart, the pitcher for the Angels, died in a car wreck.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Breaking news on BSPN right now.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Hit and run.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:37 am
BO:
Make that classic Continental style finger pointing.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:37 am
likely the next time we hear from Cable The Coach Guy is when he trots out his “this is the guy we wanted all along” speech at the post-draft presser. Draftees and FAs are about all there is now (and ongoing Maersk saga).
TripleSix,
I’d bet that some of the stuff “Mop Handle” is gonna hear in the trenches will probably even crack up his own teammates whoever they might be.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:38 am
oh back to the game..
I love to see you two brainiacs answers, you seem to know everything about this situation.. and especially merchant laws… LOL
April 9th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Guys, it was a jack, alright? No different than when your house gets broken into. Somalians are poor as uck. They’ve got to eat. Those waters are dangerous and everyone knows it.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:41 am
I used to wear them, but not now. I see a lot of people wearing them these days.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Should you fight back with pirates/terrorists?
Of course. If United 93 hadn’t fought back that plane would have been in the Oval Office.
Someone said we should forget about 9/11?
Not until bin Laden’s brains are sitting in his lap.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:42 am
The world is a ghetto. We’re just the biggest pimp in the biggest cadillac.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:43 am
EnglandRaider, George W. Bush forgot about 9/11 in ‘03. So why be so critical of those who’ve forgotten about it just recently?
April 9th, 2009 at 10:45 am
And, England, nobody said we shouldn’t fight back against pirates or terrorists. Does the right wing even know how to debate any issue without putting words into peoples’ mouths? Nobody ever said we shouldn’t fight, ever. Stop lying. This is why Americans are refusing to vote for anything that looks or quacks like a Republican right now. They’re tired of these types of generalizations.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:45 am
LMN,
I am surprised that you work in that industry and don’t know the answer to your own question. That issue has been discussed and it has been found feasible to have armed guards on cargo ships that can leave with the cargo ship and then transfer to another ship for the ride home before entering the port. Just takes too much coordination and is too expensive for your greedy company.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:49 am
I was being a smart azz
April 9th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Jerry, are you awake? We need a post badly!
How about staking out someone’s elevator or door again and I don’t mean just Garcia’s wife.
You did it with Kiffin, do it again.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:52 am
SNB666, doesn’t matter that you were joking. The Bush administration really did forget about 9/11 in 2003. That’s no joke.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:53 am
We do need a new post, Jerry. EnglandRaider’s grasping at straws and putting words into peoples’ mouths.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:54 am
RaiderRockstar,
Tom Cable took that P.O.S offensive line from ‘06 and made it a credible line in 2007. In ‘08 he stuck with Kwame Harris too long. Once he got him on the bench, the O-Line started blocking. He put brought in free agents to push Mario Henderson and upgrade the RT position. Henderson was on Sirius Radio Late Hits a couple days ago. He said he’s bust’n his backside everyday and also…he sees Russell in the building everyday. He said it makes him work harder knowing his QB is working.
I trust Cable with the free agents and I like Super Mario. No need to use #7 on OT.
As for WR, Walker, like Kelly, will be 1yr removed from knee surgery. If its good enough for Tommy its good enough for Javon. Walker should be a decent receiver this year. Schilens has the size, speed and blocking tenacity to be a number 2. JLH has proven his big play ability as a 2 or 3. Raider receivers will need to catch 3 to 4 per game. The guys on the roster are capable of doing that.
So I am good with the offense as is provided they run the football and scrap this West Coast Offense. I hate the WCO. The WCO is not Raider football and its not the offense that best utilizes Russell’s skillset.
Russell will throw for 2900 yds, 23TDS and 12 INTs.
Bush and DMAC will each run for 1,000 yds.
There you have it!
April 9th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Some quotes from professionals in the know:
Jim Bates’ greatest NFL success came with the Dolphins when he had two massive defensive tackles (Tim Bowens and Daryl Gardener) clogging the interior of the offensive line. The duo allowed undersized middle linebacker Zach Thomas to avoid one-on-one blocking, clearing the way for a slew of 100-plus tackle seasons.
“It all starts up the middle,” said Bates, who spent last season out of coaching while recovering from hip surgery. “You’ve got to have tackles who can take on blocks and keep the linebackers clean for the most part.”
April 9th, 2009 at 10:56 am
O-line for’09
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:42 am
The world is a ghetto. We’re just the biggest pimp in the biggest cadillac.
This is why Americans are refusing to vote for anything that looks or quacks like a Republican right now. They’re tired of these types of generalizations.
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Dnt like all the politics on the blog nor Mr Davis Haters but two very good points MR good work.
Remember no matter how many bodies of water or chunks of land or yellow streaks…are between us we all BLLE SILVER AND BLACK!!!!!
O-line foe ‘09
April 9th, 2009 at 10:57 am
“putting words into peoples’ mouths”
Sounds like a Republican.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:57 am
# SacRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:31 am
from ESPN:
“The Raiders were the only team in the league to reach the end zone in fewer than half of their goal-to-go situations last year. Here are the five teams with the worst touchdown percentage in goal-to-go situations in 2008.
Raiders, 47.6%
Bengals, 50.0%
Rams, 53.3%
Steelers, 58.6%
Bills, 60.0% ”
OT in 1st. Barden in 2nd.
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Very good point. Last in red zone offense and last in 3rd-down conversions in the league. To me, that was this team’s biggest problem last year — even bigger than the Run D.
If we don’t draft a WR early we should go after Amani Toomer — good hands and good at moving the chains. JLH, Schilens and Shields all have big-play speed. We need a true No. 1 WR, or at the very least a guy who can consistently get open and catch the ball in the 5-10 yard range, ala Wes Welker. Wish we had some clue as to whether Walker will have any kind of resurgence. If he’s not at all motivated anymore they might as well cut him and eat his guaranteed salary to make more room for the young guys.
BTW, anyone know how to change their password on this site? The one they gave me reads like something off the wall in King Tut’s tomb.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Also,
I love Orakpo and the Texas Dilemma. They’re opening for the Mother Truckers this Friday night.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Liberals like to put other things in each others’ mouths.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:00 am
MaddenRaider
Tom Cable is just a puppet, Al Davis is doing everything himself, Cable has no input whatsoever and Davis will draft the fastest guys available with every pick.
There, I said it, you got what you wanted to hear, so there’s no need to go back and forth about it all day long.
Stick with your republican bashing, that’s probably what you do best, you won’t get an argument from me on that one.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Guys, just a quick example as to how when words are overused, they lose their meaning.
I’m seeing headlines about piracy all over the internet news sites today. And when I see this word, I automatically think of “online piracy”, as in stealing music and movies, even though, of course, these headlines are referring to actual human pirates robbing people. The music industry, and their shills in the press, figured using a heightened phrase like “piracy” would make people understand the severity in not only stealing music, but the consequences as well. Now when I see headlines about piracy, real pirates, I’m assuming they’re talking about college kids downloading music, so I skip the article. The power of words, and oh, how this power is abused. Just like when headlines mention “terrorists” anymore I’m assuming they’re referring to some rag tag street gang the cops want to slap an injunction on, thanks to that phrase being completely watered down due to its gross overuse.
You language abusers are so lucky George Carlin’s no longer with us.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:02 am
MaddenRaider:
You’re tired of “these types of generalizations” yet you just did exactly that by saying that “the right wing doesn’t know how to debate these issues without putting words in peoples mouths”. That’s a real big generalization MaddenRaider I thought you didn’t like those.
On top of that you stereotype me as right wing just because I want people to fight back? I’m very peaceable.
FDR wanted people to fight back. Was he right wing too? Ghandi and King wanted people to fight back-although passively-does that make them right wing.
Nice to see you back MaddenRaider/Mr/ and the all the other people you appear to be. At least you’re witty.
You’re making lots of assumptions there. Does the fact that millions of Americans want bin Laden make them dangerous murderers to be locked up?
April 9th, 2009 at 11:05 am
OK, Marley. LOL. Point taken. But, I only wish your sarcasm on Cable wasn’t actually the truth…
April 9th, 2009 at 11:07 am
More quotes…
April 20, 2006:
Lewis vents his frustration about not having space-eating defensive tackles in front of him that would allow him to roam free. “The issue is: Are you going to let me do what I do?” he asked. “And if not, let me go.” Nine days later, the Ravens draft 340-pound defensive tackle Haloti Ngata.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Jerry McDonald! Come on Jerry, how about a post?
I know your clan and mine have been ememies for centuries but I’ll forgive you if you write a post despite the despicable transgressions of the McDonalds.
Your posts are great and your clan makes great hamburgers (Actually, I prefer Farmer Bros).
April 9th, 2009 at 11:07 am
EnglandRaider, when I said type of generalization, I was referring to the right labeling the left as pacifists. Meaning, that particular generalization. Americans are tired of it. That’s why Obama walloped Republicans in November. That’s all I was saying.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Obama,Bush,Bin Laden,Clintons,UN,,NATO and the Vatican are the same stooges. Left and Right wingers are both idiots.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:08 am
SnB
I’ve always liked Jim Bates, we should have hired him years ago.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:09 am
LMN:
You have an easier day today?
April 9th, 2009 at 11:10 am
And, EnglandRaider, I accused of being in the right wing because you’re making the assumption that there are people who don’t want to fight back against terrorism. Nobody ever once said to you that we should just let terrorists take over the world. Ever, in your life, unless you’re high, or clinically insane, and hearing voices in your head say it. Yet, you continue to make that insinuation. Why? Why do you have to lie and put words into peoples’ mouths to get your political agenda acrossed?
April 9th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Obama didnt wallop shyt. It was all planned and staged. You dont get elected you get selected.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Who planned it and staged it, Brien? The election. What votes weren’t counted?
April 9th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Brien:
YOu are correct. Notice how most on that list are politicians?
April 9th, 2009 at 11:12 am
SnB
I have a question-comment for you, post 526.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Yawwwwnnn
April 9th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Brien, the reason people said Bush was selected is because he actually was, by the Supreme Court, when they halted the Florida recount. How was Obama selected? What ballots weren’t counted last November? He won by an overwhelming majority. Are you suggesting those people never really voted for him? I knew you were a little out there, Brien. But I didn’t know you were this crazy. Let’s hear it.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:14 am
A lot of good prospects from late 1st through 3rd round this year. In no particular order, here are some of the guys I like:
– Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma
– Phil Loadholt, T, Oklahoma
– Jasper Brinkley, MLB, S. Carolina
– Ramses Barden, WR, Cal Poly
– Paul Kruger, DE, Utah
– Sean Smith, CB/S, Utah
– Connor Barwin, DE/LB, Cincinnati
– Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers
– Fili Moala, DT, USC
– Louis Delmas, S, W. Michigan
– Ron Brace, DT, Boston College
– Ziggy Hood, DT, Missouri
– Darry Beckwith, LB, LSU
As I’ve said time and again, I love Maualuga, Crabtree or Maclin at No. 7, but if we could trade back with the Eagles (21 & 28), Lions (20 & 33) or one those teams picking in the teens for a 1st and 2nd, we could grab 4 or 5 of those guys that would be sweet.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:16 am
LOL, Brien. I didn’t think you had anything to back up that nutty theory with. I’ll check in with you guys later. Maybe tomorrow. Got to get a haircut.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:17 am
MR, go follow the paper trail for the who. Elections have always been janky. The founding slave masters of this evil nation made the electoral college because people dont know what is best lol. Facts
April 9th, 2009 at 11:17 am
# SacRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:31 am
from ESPN:
“The Raiders were the only team in the league to reach the end zone in fewer than half of their goal-to-go situations last year. Here are the five teams with the worst touchdown percentage in goal-to-go situations in 2008.
Raiders, 47.6%
Bengals, 50.0%
Rams, 53.3%
Steelers, 58.6%
Bills, 60.0% ”
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I seemed to remember a lot of holding penalites and false starts that negated TD runs or put the offense in 2nd/3rd and longs against SD, Jets and Miami.
I didn’t see Michael Bush at all in a lot of red zone. Just Justin Fargas running into a brick wall.
Seem to remember DMAC having to go tell Cable what red zone runs to call.
Better playcalling and using the talent better would get more red zone TDs
April 9th, 2009 at 11:17 am
What a great day, Raider fans! I come in to give that old goat KrappyKell his daily tongue lashing for cyber blogging in here instead of taking part in activities at the senior center and, lo and behold, he’s nowhere to be found!
I guess I’m finally making some headway and getting that fossil where he belongs – off the blog and into a nice sterile hospital bed.
Don’t worry, I don’t need thanks. Just doing my job.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:20 am
chris…at the bottom where it says LOGGED ON AS click on that it will take you to your profile on the bottom of that you can change it
April 9th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Come on MR, we already know about voter fraud. The power behind the scenes i.e. the banks dictate this bitch. You are a village idiot to believe the hype on Obama. Its a script like Mandela
April 9th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Russell will throw for 2900 yds, 23TDS and 12 INTs.
Bush and DMAC will each run for 1,000 yds.
There you have it!
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S&B:
thanks for responding to my post #435
how many PPG from this current offense?
and how much would Raji & Gilbert improve the run defense?
i’m assuming they would be Day 1 starters replacing Warren & Richardson. correct?
April 9th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Obama didnt wallop shyt. It was all planned and staged. You dont get elected you get selected.
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That was what I believed untill I wittnessed The huge companies and the people who are actually in charge(the ones with all the money and oil) loser to a brotha.. the days of being select by the illuminati are over.
O-line for ‘09
April 9th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Anyhow Raider talk…on a side note damn that sux for the Angels guy
April 9th, 2009 at 11:27 am
MaddenRaider:
“Thereyou go again” (Is that annoying?)
You’re making generalizations, making assumptions, puting putting words in MY mouth and calling me names because I disagree–all the things you’re telling me not to do.
I made no such assumption that there are people who don’t want to fight back, I said that people SHOULD fight back. That’s quite different.
I also never said that people want terorists to take over the world. I said they will if we don’t fight back.
In addition, I didn’t put words in anyone’s mouth. I just wanted to put bin Laden’s brains in his lap.
Finally, although I did not call you or anyone else a name, you said I must be high, clinically deranged, or hearing voices in my head.
Now MaddenRaider, is that anyway to conduct a discourse?
Name-calling, generalizations, assumptions, and putting words in my mouth.
(I haven’t been accused of all those things since my first marriage!)
April 9th, 2009 at 11:27 am
# SilverNBlack666 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:57 am
“putting words into peoples’ mouths”
Sounds like a Republican.
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I concur
April 9th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Jeremy Maclin Q&A on NFL.com today. Two interesting responses:
John Bis, Boca Raton Fl, 01:33 PM ET
Hey Jeremy hopefully your enjoying all the pre-draft hype, i was wondering tho which CB’s are you looking forward to playing against in the NFL.
Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
Haha! To be honest, it’s something I haven’t really thought about. But you want to go against the best. Guys like Champ Bailey and Quinten Jammer. If you want to be the best, you have to go against the best.
(Not sure why he’d put Jammer among the best CBs but very interesting he picked two AFC West guys who are not on the Raiders).
AND …
Joe, Ontario, 01:49 PM ET
Hey J-Mac how would you feel about playing for the raider nation?
Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
I would love to! I guess they have a young team on the rise, and all the right pieces. They just need a few more. I would to be a part of that going in the right direction.
Oakland is a good city too.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Thanks R8rpaver.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:30 am
OK so I know that Kiffin is at Tennessee now but he wasn’t last year so why cant we take Robert Ayers with our #7 pick?
April 9th, 2009 at 11:30 am
That’s why I said two first round picks, 2009 and 2010, that should do it.
As far as the rebuilding comment, I agree but…
But who’s gonna help us more over the next 4 to 5 years, an All-Pro DE in Julius Peppers or two, unproven rookies who, statistically, have a 50% chance of failing to live up to expections?.
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two 1st round picks could be a #1 WR in this years draft and a run stuffing DT (without academic or drug issues) in next years draft. I’ll pass on Peppers.
This is assuming a #1 WR isn’t already on the roster and the DT trio of Kelly/Warren/Sands perform at the same level under Marshall as they did for Ryan
April 9th, 2009 at 11:31 am
# Dakota Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:45 am
LMN,
I am surprised that you work in that industry and don’t know the answer to your own question. That issue has been discussed and it has been found feasible to have armed guards on cargo ships that can leave with the cargo ship and then transfer to another ship for the ride home before entering the port. Just takes too much coordination and is too expensive for your greedy company.
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Bwahahaha, LOL, nice try professor, yeah its also feasible to carry your magnum into a bank, its still not legal…
funny how much you know about this stuff, I think you should make a shipping company, then you could sail from south to north dakota with your career, that might be feasible too… LOL
imagine this setup, an Iranian ship with armed guards entering Port of San Diego or Miami Dade…
as I said it would be considered as an hostile act..
April 9th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Some players stink no matter what coaches they have or scheme they play in. Kelly was undrafted. Warren did little for the Browns and nothing for the donks. Sands did nothing for the Chiefs & Packers. Joseph did nothing for the Giants. none of these players have done anything for the Raiders either (yet).
If Marsh can’t get production from this group I say we scrap the whole heap of them next offseason. Thats when we don’t have to worry about cap hits – there is no cap.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:33 am
MaddenRaider… re your post #611… see post #614.
Confirmed.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:35 am
OAKlifer u gotta be joking right? Go find who Obama is related to then talk to me. Brotha? No he isnt
April 9th, 2009 at 11:36 am
anytime BROTHER
April 9th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Bob Marley Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:22 am
SnB
I thought you were all for drafting “football players” intead of “height-weigh-speed projects”.
Sounds to me like Gilbert is exactly the kind of guy you don’t want us drafting…
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I see Gilbert as a football player. Any guy that has as a strength good tackler, then that’s a football player. He has weaknesses that have been outlined in your post. That’s why he’s a 2nd rounder and not a 1st rounder. The guy can tackle, has good strength and can hold his ground. When I think of h/w/s guys, I think of guys whose biggest attribute is blazing speed. This guy can run, but he is still a big ugly.
Michael Johnson is the classic Davis H/W/S guy.
Take a read of this more comprehensive scouting report and tell me what you think.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/566614
April 9th, 2009 at 11:38 am
EnglandRaider..
yeah I had nice day, its a holiday here. I went to work, to see f I could help with anything, we were told that the FBI know was handling it, so I went home again
right now my team beat Aab, the team that almost kicked out Man City…
So my team still 2nd in the league, same points as the leader (the Denver Broncos of danish soccer), but the leader has a better goal difference…
So yeah im pretty pleased..
April 9th, 2009 at 11:39 am
funny how BSJ ran away, wasnt he the one talking about defending stuff?
April 9th, 2009 at 11:40 am
HEY YOU GUYS JUST CHECK THIS OUT AND LET ME KNOW IF YOU WOULD TRADE BUSH..
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80db986b
April 9th, 2009 at 11:41 am
EnglandRAIDER..
a pirate is NOT a terrorist… a pirate is in it for the money, you should know, now that we talked about your fleet the other day…
April 9th, 2009 at 11:43 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 11:21 am
S&B:
thanks for responding to my post #435
how many PPG from this current offense?
and how much would Raji & Gilbert improve the run defense?
i’m assuming they would be Day 1 starters replacing Warren & Richardson. correct?
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PPG from offense: 17 to 20 ppg
Run Defense: With Raji/Gilbert I think the Raiders go from 31st to somewhere in the high teens / low 20s.
I think offenses will scheme differently to account for some more weight on the outside and playmaking inside.
Kelly should be better this year and Morrison and Howard will be in a better position to make the plays that had them as future pro-bowl candidates a couple of years ago.
Your boy John Marshall should help here as well.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Rockstar
“two 1st round picks could be a #1 WR in this years draft and a run stuffing DT (without academic or drug issues) in next years draft.”
Or…they could be WR’s Troy Williamson and Charles Rogers or DT’s Jonathan Sullivan and Dewayne Robertson.
A #1 WR and a run stuffing DT can also be found in rounds 2 or 3 this year or next.
Anyway, I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree again, like with Huff…lol, nice talk anyway.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:44 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:21 am
“THE ONLY SHIPPING LINE TO GET A CONTAINER VESSEL TAKEN BY THESE PIRATES!”
please explain…
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Sorry, was at lunch (thanks Dakota for finding the holes in his BS). The news accounts I saw noted this is the FIRST container ship taken.
From Wall St. Journal “Copenhagen-based Maersk Line, the world’s biggest container-shipping firm, had been unscathed by the pirate crisis until now. Shipping experts and Maersk officials say the Alabama’s hijacking is an aberration. Container ships are harder to hijack: They steam faster than tankers or bulk carriers, which carry commodities like coal and wheat. A container ship also has a high freeboard — the distance between the waterline and the top of the hull — making it hard for pirates to climb aboard. Hijacked ships that have made headlines before were tankers and bulk carriers, not container ships.”
April 9th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Jerry it’s time for a new post, so do your job sir.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:46 am
LMN:
We’re back to the fleet again?! You Danes are obsessed with fleets? Is that because Britain whopped you at the Battle of Copenhagen and you gave away your fleet to stop the pain?
April 9th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Wow, I watched the A’s-Angels game last night, now the pitcher is dead. Life…..
April 9th, 2009 at 11:47 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 11:39 am
funny how BSJ ran away, wasnt he the one talking about defending stuff?
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LMN,
Ran away? You calling me an EU soldier now? Thats low…
April 9th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Raider O, I agree with you!
I don’t need any more politics.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:48 am
15 days, and I can’t wait. This is The best part of the season for me.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:51 am
KoolKell
Which pitchure?
April 9th, 2009 at 11:52 am
I mean which pitcher?
April 9th, 2009 at 11:52 am
CRACKRAIDER Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 11:40 am
HEY YOU GUYS JUST CHECK THIS OUT AND LET ME KNOW IF YOU WOULD TRADE BUSH..
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80db986b
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Bush is a no compromises NFL running back. He runs hard, he’s patient and more importantly, he’s a running back that can break tackles. Quite frankly, Bush should be THE NUMBER 1 RUNNING BACK on the depth chart, even ahead of Darren McFadden.
Bush broke his leg in college. If not for that he’s a top 15 pick that year. Period. The fact that all these trade rumors keep popping up should tell Davis and Cable that Bush is the guy with talent.
No one in inquiring about Fargas. And no one ever will because he’s a backup running back
April 9th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Nick Adenhart
April 9th, 2009 at 11:53 am
ChrisNY,
your above post of Maclin’s responses on the Q and A were definitely interesting. Thanks.
Draft O-line!
April 9th, 2009 at 11:53 am
666
April 9th, 2009 at 11:54 am
I like talking politics and history too, but there are others here that get bothered after a while.
I forgot, I also like talking about RE.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:56 am
EnglandRaider:
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Wow, Adenhart, the pitcher for the Angels, died in a car wreck.
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Breaking news on BSPN right now.
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Hit and run.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Yes Michael Johnson is an Al type of pick and we need a DE. Dont be shocked if thats the pick at 7
April 9th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Cable’s preference for Fargas had better subside. Fargas is a guy that can play here and there but has NO DURABILITY. And as far as the red zone debate earlier, Fargas can’t get in the end zone. He can’t. And he can’t catch the ball very well either.
But he is a do-right guy and should be kept on the roster for that reason. The Raiders have to start playing the players who are the best performers or whose potential demands development. Not do-right guys with limited potential.
That’s the only reason why everyone should pause given Garcia on the roster. Garcia might charm Cable into a starting job.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:57 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 11:44 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:21 am
“THE ONLY SHIPPING LINE TO GET A CONTAINER VESSEL TAKEN BY THESE PIRATES!”
please explain…
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Sorry, was at lunch (thanks Dakota for finding the holes in his BS). The news accounts I saw noted this is the FIRST container ship taken.
From Wall St. Journal “Copenhagen-based Maersk Line, the world’s biggest container-shipping firm, had been unscathed by the pirate crisis until now. Shipping experts and Maersk officials say the Alabama’s hijacking is an aberration. Container ships are harder to hijack: They steam faster than tankers or bulk carriers, which carry commodities like coal and wheat. A container ship also has a high freeboard — the distance between the waterline and the top of the hull — making it hard for pirates to climb aboard. Hijacked ships that have made headlines before were tankers and bulk carriers, not container ships.”
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bwahahahaa, so you were wrong, nice of you to admit it, we are not the ONLY one, Alabama is the FIRST…
April 9th, 2009 at 11:57 am
By Erik Matuszewski
April 9 (Bloomberg) — Los Angeles Angels pitcher Nick Adenhart died this morning of injuries sustained when his car was struck by a vehicle that ran a red light hours after his fourth Major League Baseball start. He was 22.
Adenhart was transported to the University of California- Irvine Medical Center shortly after midnight Los Angeles time and died after surgery, hospital spokesman John Murray said in a telephone interview.
“The Angels family has suffered a tremendous loss today,” General Manager Tony Reagins said in a statement. “We are deeply saddened and shocked by this tragic loss. Our thoughts and prayers go out to Nick’s family, friends, loved ones and fans.”
Two others riding with Adenhart, including the female driver, also were killed when the operator of a van ran a red light and broadsided their car in Fullerton, California, the Angels said. Their identities weren’t immediately available. Both died before police and fire department personnel arrived, the Angels said in the news release.
The other driver fled the scene, but was later caught by police and taken into custody on suspicion of felony hit and run, the Los Angeles Times said.
The accident occurred hours after Adenhart, a rookie, pitched six shutout innings last night against the Oakland Athletics.
Third Starter
Adenhart was listed as the Angels’ No. 3 starting pitcher, with John Lackey, Ervin Santana and Kelvim Escobar all on the disabled list. He earned a spot in the rotation after going 3-0 with a 3.12 earned run average during spring training.
A 14th-round pick in the 2004 draft, Adenhart was regarded as one of the top prospects for the Angels, who have won four of the past five American League Western Division titles. The Silver Spring, Maryland, native went 36-28 in the minor leagues.
“He lived his dream and was blessed to be part of an organization comprised of such warm, caring and compassionate people,” the pitcher’s parents, Jim and Janet Adenhart, said in a statement. “The Angels were his extended family. Thanks to all of Nick’s loyal supporters and fans throughout his career. He will always be in everyone’s hearts forever.”
April 9th, 2009 at 11:57 am
To Orakpo or not to Orakpo. That is the question.
Whether ’tis nobler to draft a franchise LT or a standout WR…
April 9th, 2009 at 11:58 am
# La Milicia Negra Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:20 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:34 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:25 am
BSJ…
yeah, the food was going to Somalia and Uganda..
arent you getting tired of questioning me all the time?
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Stop being so wrong. As you said to Copenhagen, if you don’t like it get the eff out.
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you just cant help yourself, huh?
the S H I P, was going to Kenya, cause their isnt safe ports or deep enough ports in Somalia..
The C A R G O, i.e Food, was going to Uganda and Somalia..
I would never correct you on engine issues, but you seem to know everything, it must be great…
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whats your answer to this one, then. You still think you know it all?
April 9th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Prepare for Athletics to take Al West. Pitching worries me tho.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Yes Michael Johnson is an Al type of pick and we need a DE. Dont be shocked if thats the pick at 7
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But Michael Johnson will be available in the 2nd round. Maybe even the 3rd. Its funny how Al Davis is the only person who scouts, pundits etc have reaching 15, 20,30, even 40 spots to grab a Heyward-Bay or Michael Johnson.
How come no one else in the top 10 are associated with these guys. Cleveland needs a pass rusher. So does Cincy. But its the Raiders, with their stupid focus on 40x that are expected to throw their draft in to the proverbial waste basket
April 9th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Raider O:
Didn’t you say you were a a Giant fan?
April 9th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
If it comes down to Orakpo and Johnson we know who Al is taking
April 9th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
BSJ…
oh sorry, misunderstood you, you have an emphasis on Container..
well the alabama is a tiny vessel, and is more like a bulk carrier than anything..
its really not smart to generalize container ships..
Most container ships today is too big to go through the Suez, thats also why they not get hijacked.. Alabama is only a 17K tonnage, meaning its not fast its not big…
another reason why they were told to be ~600KM of somali shore.. they weren’t
April 9th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
SnB
I’ve read that report before, there’s no need to sell me on Jarron Gilbert, I’m definitely intrigued with any guy that can run 4.76 at 6′5 284 and has the kind of athleticism he does, but I’m not sure he’s a “football player” just yet, I like him for his potential.
I guess we see things a little different, but in the end, we agree he’d be a good choice with the 40th or 71st pick.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
PPG from offense: 17 to 20 ppg
Run Defense: With Raji/Gilbert I think the Raiders go from 31st to somewhere in the high teens / low 20s.
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S&B: couldn’t agree more. However, I don’t think we’ll win many games scoring 17-20 PPG with a run defense ranked someplace between 16th and 24th. do you?
April 9th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
The Angels canceled their game tonight. The Eclipse was destroyed. It got hit by a van. Another car (looked like a Geo) was also involved in the crash. A 4th person was reported to be in the car and is in Critical condition. It looked like the Eclipse was a convertable and the top was down. Van T-boned it in the passenger side. The local news wasn’t sure where Nick was sitting in the car.
The Angels are off to a rough start. A coach died earlier this year, a fan was killed at the game before and now Nick is killed by a drunk driver.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6oMnfzST50&feature=player_embedded
PFT.com talks about Jeff Garcia as the backup to the Raiders.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
There is a question, as Jerry says, whether Orakpo is worth the risk.
Orakpo (6-3) 263 ibs/Gholston (6-4) 258ibs
Similar but that doesn’t make them equal.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 11:57 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 11:44 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:21 am
“THE ONLY SHIPPING LINE TO GET A CONTAINER VESSEL TAKEN BY THESE PIRATES!”
please explain…
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Sorry, was at lunch (thanks Dakota for finding the holes in his BS). The news accounts I saw noted this is the FIRST container ship taken.
From Wall St. Journal “Copenhagen-based Maersk Line, the world’s biggest container-shipping firm, had been unscathed by the pirate crisis until now. Shipping experts and Maersk officials say the Alabama’s hijacking is an aberration. Container ships are harder to hijack: They steam faster than tankers or bulk carriers, which carry commodities like coal and wheat. A container ship also has a high freeboard — the distance between the waterline and the top of the hull — making it hard for pirates to climb aboard. Hijacked ships that have made headlines before were tankers and bulk carriers, not container ships.”
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bwahahahaa, so you were wrong, nice of you to admit it, we are not the ONLY one, Alabama is the FIRST…
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Make some sense. Only shipping line to have this problem in yours, as I stated.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
BSJ…
and you still try to make this an america vs europe thing, thats pathetic…
The crew didnt do as told, 1½-2 years ago another danish vessel, form another company was too close to shore as well, they were held hostage for a long time, they all got medic care and food, and all was treated nice….
…because they DIDNT fight back when the ship was seized… but them being close to shore to safe time was their blunder, as wer it with the Alabama crew..
problem is the crew did not do what they were told..
April 9th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Bob Marley Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Rockstar
“I’m not sure we could get Peppers for the #7 overall.
Look what the Chiefs got for Jared Allen!
I’m not willing to give up that many draft picks. This team is not done rebuilding”.
That’s why I said two first round picks, 2009 and 2010, that should do it.
As far as the rebuilding comment, I agree but…
But who’s gonna help us more over the next 4 to 5 years, an All-Pro DE in Julius Peppers or two, unproven rookies who, statistically, have a 50% chance of failing to live up to expections?.
The division is within reach, maybe as soon as this year, next at the latest, adding a guy like Peppers makes us a better team right away.
And we still have our 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounders this year, to bring in more help, as well as a full slate from 2 to 7 next year.
Look, it’s not happening so this is probably pointless, I’m just saying I would try to do it.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Bob M
What a difference a year makes. Last year it was a solid choice to McFadden or Sedrick Ellis/Dorsey.
This years draft must be so bad you are proposing a trade for a DE, and have some valid points to your argument.
My focus is the draft has no clear choice or player that jumps out and says I’m the best no matter what position.
I have a bad feeling about the Raiders selection, especially the $18-20 million guaranteed for a player that in other drafts should be a lower draft pick.
I have no answers, Raji is to small as a prototypical DT, Oher is a project in pass blocking technique and overall desire, and Maclin, or Crabtree have some versatility, but neither jump out and say I’m the one.
Davis will never trade down and receive more draft choices, not in his DNA, so were stuck with a player, and our collective fingers must be crossed for the results this team needs to get to the next level.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
686.. my answer is in 680…
April 9th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
# SnB Defense Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 11:52 am
CRACKRAIDER Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 11:40 am
HEY YOU GUYS JUST CHECK THIS OUT AND LET ME KNOW IF YOU WOULD TRADE BUSH..
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80db986b
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Bush is a no compromises NFL running back. He runs hard, he’s patient and more importantly, he’s a running back that can break tackles. Quite frankly, Bush should be THE NUMBER 1 RUNNING BACK on the depth chart, even ahead of Darren McFadden.
Bush broke his leg in college. If not for that he’s a top 15 pick that year. Period. The fact that all these trade rumors keep popping up should tell Davis and Cable that Bush is the guy with talent.
No one in inquiring about Fargas. And no one ever will because he’s a backup running back
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Watching that video makes me think why should we give any of are Running backs for a 31 year old when we can draft a younger guy..Also i just cant wait for the season to start!!!!
April 9th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
So, with that logic I suppose the Raiders have drafted Gallery, Grove, Darrell Russell, Leon Bender, SeaBass, Zach Miller, JaMarcus, Morrison, Nnamdi, Super Mario, and McFadden all because they were the fastest guys in the draft. Sigh…
April 9th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
furthermore..
Alabama was loaded with WHEAT… so again the container generalization just dont cut it.. funny you suddenly are a selfappointed expert…
keep cut and paste…
do you have an answer for your wrongful claim of the destination of the cargo??
April 9th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Thanks Ryan.
All you have to do is get up in the morning so it’s best to enjoy life.
I think I’l have another beer.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
RaiderDell,
good afternoon, dreaming of your upcoming vacation yet?
April 9th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
England,
A Giant Fan!! What makes you think that?
April 9th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
BSJ..
again, where was the cargo going?
April 9th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
LMN, “container” misses the point anyway.
> Who is responsible for protecting the crew/ship? Maersk
> Why send them through Suez/Aden, if larger ships go around?
> Why did Maersk not ask for US flagged ship to get a USN escort? (it has been widely known the pirates are attacking further southeast, so region is no explanation)
> Why doesn’t Maersk Alabama employ noise devices that have shown to be effective on other ships?
> When known to be too close to shore (your assertion), did Maersk direct a change in course?
April 9th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Brien:
The A’s are going to have a struggle for it and you’re right pitching is a problem but it would be nice if they would go back to playing baseball more and not just rely on big hitters.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
England,
I Never said that. I’m a Raiders Fan.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
LMN,
when you were talking with the FBI this morning did they question as to your loyalties since you spend half of your day posting with a renegade nation? Watch your back the FEEBs can be crazy.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Raider O,
Didn’t mean to offen you! LOL
Someone said that.
I started off a Giant fan and then became an A’s fan but I’m still a bit conflicted.
At the A’s/Gianst World Series time I was wearing one of those caps that was half Gianst and half A’s
I shouldn’t have done that, it caused an earthquake.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
LMN,
I know English is not your first language, so I’ll just point it out what you seemed to have misread….
“…transfer to another ship for the ride home BEFORE entering the port.”
April 9th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
M
This draft is going to make the vacation so much better.
I have read your comments, I know you want a OL, I think you want Andre Smith. Under normal years I think Andre Smith is a 10-15 selection. As I noted this years draft has less talent and more hype of players due to the lack of great talent available.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Raider O, I know that I’m talking about baseball.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
furthermore..
Alabama was loaded with WHEAT… so again the container generalization just dont cut it.. funny you suddenly are a selfappointed expert…
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You are getting obnoxious now. Headlines:
US flagged Maersk container ship ousts Somali pirates!
Pirates Commandeer US Container Ship
Pirates hijack a Norfolk-based container ship with an American crew
Fla. man among crew of hijacked container ship
Manatee County man among crew of hijacked container ship
April 9th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
LMN, “container” misses the point anyway.
> Who is responsible for protecting the crew/ship? Maersk
absolutely, thats why the crew is insured..
> Why send them through Suez/Aden, if larger ships go around?
are you stupid?? no east africna port can take a type E, go look at a map, the ships destination were Mombasa, it cant be hard to figure out, most idiotic thing said on this blog..
> Why did Maersk not ask for US flagged ship to get a USN escort? (it has been widely known the pirates are attacking further southeast, so region is no explanation)
We did and we were told as long we were long enough from shore their tiny zodiacs and what not wouldnt reach, the crew, wanted to save some time and take a shorter route, they were not allowed to do so..
> Why doesn’t Maersk Alabama employ noise devices that have shown to be effective on other ships?
as far as i know they had those.. maybe they didnt use them..
> When known to be too close to shore (your assertion), did Maersk direct a change in course?
again we dont follow where they are, its not like with planes, we set their route, and they then have to follow accordingly, they didnt…
April 9th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
SnB
“Its funny how Al Davis is the only person who scouts, pundits etc have reaching 15, 20,30, even 40 spots to grab a Heyward-Bay or Michael Johnson.
How come no one else in the top 10 are associated with these guys.”
- When was the last time these “scouts, pundits, etc” have succesfully predicted anything?.
Take the 2008 Draft:
“A good success rate for first-round mock draft predictions seems to be about 25%.
Rick Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News had the best success rate, correctly predicting 8 of 31 first-round picks, or 25.8%.
Mel Kiper, Todd McShay, Jay Glazer, and Pete Prisco all came in under 25%.”
It’s fun to read their evaluations and stuff, they certainly know more than we do about what to look for, but when it comes to actually predicting who’s gonna end up where, our guess is almost as good as theirs.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Check out the Sac Bee blog..
http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/raiders/archives/021377.html#discovery
good interview with Gracia
April 9th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
furthermore..
Alabama was loaded with WHEAT… so again the container generalization just dont cut it.. funny you suddenly are a selfappointed expert…
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You are getting obnoxious now. Headlines:
US flagged Maersk container ship ousts Somali pirates!
Pirates Commandeer US Container Ship
Pirates hijack a Norfolk-based container ship with an American crew
Fla. man among crew of hijacked container ship
Manatee County man among crew of hijacked container ship
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I dont even know what you are trying to say. Im obnoxious?? LOL because im right? and you keep trying to prove me wrong? well that would be tiresome…
I would never tell you how an engine works, because I dont know anything about it… but please keep making a fool out of yourself.. you obviously dont know anything about merchant ships, their laws or even geography..
April 9th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
PPG from offense: 17 to 20 ppg
Run Defense: With Raji/Gilbert I think the Raiders go from 31st to somewhere in the high teens / low 20s.
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S&B: couldn’t agree more. However, I don’t think we’ll win many games scoring 17-20 PPG with a run defense ranked someplace between 16th and 24th. do you?
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The difference between 31st and 16th to 24th is 40 to 50 yards per game. That’s pretty big for this team, especially given the Raider pass defense.
I look at the Raider schedule and I see a 7-9 to 10-6 team:
Winnable Games:
Denver (2)
K.C (2)
San Diego (1)
Cleveland
Cincy
Houston
Jets
Washington
I am not saying they will win all these games. But if they can play good football, play manageable run defense, and not have stupid Kwame Harris false starts in the red zone, they are capable.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
England,
I thought you meant Football, I’m not a basebal fan. It’s too slow for me, and there is a lot of cheating.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
BSJ..
again, where was the cargo going?
April 9th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
# Raider O Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
England,
I thought you meant Football, I’m not a basebal fan. It’s too slow for me, and there is a lot of cheating.
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yeah, I find it very silly too =)
April 9th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Football is the greatest game ever invented.
Life is sweet though, sitting there, drinking a beer, doing you best to po the other teams pitcher.
The perfect summer sport.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
okay..
i will let the fools be know and see the rest of the UEFA cup game…
LOL, I assume they will post another ignorant post in 10 min times…
April 9th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
BSJ…
and you still try to make this an america vs europe thing, thats pathetic…
The crew didnt do as told, 1½-2 years ago another danish vessel, form another company was too close to shore as well, they were held hostage for a long time, they all got medic care and food, and all was treated nice….
…because they DIDNT fight back when the ship was seized… but them being close to shore to safe time was their blunder, as wer it with the Alabama crew..
problem is the crew did not do what they were told..
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Were the crew American?
Do Somali warlords or Puntland Islamists typically treat Americans well?
Time will tell if the crew was negligent. But your company is insane to expect an American crew to travel unescorted around Aden and then submit peacefully to a Somali attack.
Oh, your previous claim that pirates are not terrorists is only partly accurate. The pirates and Islamists in Puntland are symbiotic. Pirates ge protection, Islamists get money. So any American hostages would likely become victim to Al-Shabab.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
LMN:
And yet you cana talk for hours about a cargo ship.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
I am cool with this lineup.
QB Russell
RB Bush
FB O’Neal
WR Walker
WR Schilens
TE Miller
LT Henderson
LG Gallery
C Satele
RG Carlisle
RT Barnes
April 9th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Bring back Bilyball and I don’t mean Billy Beane.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
RaiderDell,
I don’t necessarily want Andre as the pick, just an O-lineman. Best available OT or even Alex Mack. I hoped for Ryan Clady last year, but Dakota interfered and now the donkeys have a ten year starter. Even in a doomed world longterm solutions might be looked at.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
BSJ..
again, where was the cargo going?
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Wow, you are pretty new to shipping huh? The ship’s cargo goes where the ship goes, unless its oil on the Exxon Valdez. In this case, the cargo was going to port with the ship. Kenya is what I read. And then multiple African nations shuold get the food, hopefully. In Africa, the end destination can be vague as was the case with the ship full of tanks going to Kenya (but then to Ugandan or Congolese rebels?).
April 9th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
My friend is a huge Baseball fan, and he is been trying to take me to a Padres game at the new petco. I love hotdogs and beer, so maybe I’ll go.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
SnB,
where’s “Mop Handle” in your line-up.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
SnB
Do you think with all the money paid to Dmac, that he won’t start?
I like that lineup too, but…..Dmac a 50 million dollar spot player?
April 9th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Dell
Yeah, we’re not in a very good position in this draft and it’s not every year that a Julius Peppers becomes available and we have a shot to get him. I know it happened with Jared Allen last year, but he obviusly was not an option for us.
So yeah, I would trade for an All-Pro DE who just turned 29 to pair with my 28 year old All-Pro CB to anchor my defense for the next 5 seasons.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Padres hu? Rader O
I went to see the A’s play the Pasdres once and found myself in the bad position of booing Ricky Henderson. Now there’s a guy who could play baseball even if he did have conversations with himself.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
M Lonetree Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
SnB,
where’s “Mop Handle” in your line-up.
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The “Mop Handle” will be on the bench. Called upon due to injury. The Mop Handle can run block so he still deserves a roster spot.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
M
I stand corrected. The best OL in this years draft is Monroe and Jason Smith.
The next level is the part that is interesting, under normal years the following lineman, Oher, Smith would normally be selected in rounds 10-20. My reasoning is the drafts since 2000 have had in the first 10 selections the following, minimum 3 QB’s,2RB’s, 2 LT’s and 2 WR’s, 2 DT’s.
This years draft has elevated players who would normally be in the lower 15 rounds to possibly a top 10 selection.
I know we need OL, but at what cost, $18-20 million.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
I JUST GOT DONE READIN’ THE BS SAPP HAD TO SAY ON THE NFL BLOG. HE DISSED CABLE! HE SAID “Tom Cable couldn’t lead the Raiders to a picnic in his own back yard.” FRANKLY THIS DOUSH DONT KNOW WHAT HE IS SAYING…..COME ON TO WIN TWO GAME BACK TO BACK AND IN DEC. WHEN EVERYONE WE PLAYED WAS SCRAMBLING TO GET TO THE PLAYOFFS I THINK IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT CABLE.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Adios all. Work let out early and golf course is calling…
LMN, I’ll check back later to see if you have ackowledged the blatant negligence by Maersk, as well as your own scapegoating of the crew.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
SnB
Do you think with all the money paid to Dmac, that he won’t start?
I like that lineup too, but…..Dmac a 50 million dollar spot player?
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DMAC SHOULD get his 10 to 15 carries and 3 to 5 catches per game out of the backfield. Maybe another 1 or 2 lining up as a WR. But Bush should be the guy to set the tempo.
I could have put Bush/DMAC just as well.
Bush should set the tone of the game and soften up the defenses. Then DMAC can outrun and outcatch for big yards.
Of course if Cable maintains his preference for Fargas….the offense will be one-dimensional and slow and Cable will be fired at years end
April 9th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
I look at the Raider schedule and I see a 7-9 to 10-6 team
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S&B: we won 5 games during a wild & crazy season last year. I’m pretty sure we could win 7 games just with stability in the organization and experienced coaches that are good teachers. vet mentor QB that can play if called upon and getting all our players back healthy helps too. I think the current roster is talented enough for 7 victories (yes, even with or in spite of the o & d lines)
A dynamic player like Crabtree or a dominant tackle might make us an 8 or 9 win team challenging for the AFC West crown.
Barnes had Kwame Harris syndrome last year and Javon Walker is as oft injured and unproductive as Justin Fargas if we’re being nice.
Whether it’s building the defense or building the offense I just want to win. I hope Cable/Davis draft football players who were productive in college, not just guys that have “potential” to be good.
It’s very rare that college potential shows up as NFL production. Usually it’s the other way around. NFL potential and NFL production are two different animals.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
I’m thinking that it is a real possibility that we will trade down, not pick anyone with the 7th.
This year we are really organized and I think Cable is getting great input into our plans in the draft and Cable wants the most players he can get. Cable likes the present receivers. He’s been working on the OL. He can still get good OL and DL help by trading down. There are also some good receivers coming up in the 2nd round.
One of the reasons for Cable doing this, and Al going along, would be to target Mack. The fact that Cable and Michalczil went to Cal, checked Mack out but didn’t invite him to Oakland means nothing.
As his former coach Michalczil knows Mack like a book, in fact he wrote part of it.
Since Walter seems to have disappeared we may be getting more picks than we thought too.
When Garcia talked about being in quarterback school, he said he was with Russell and Gradowski and no mention of Walter. Let’s hope Russell doesn’t cut classes.
Walter always worries me with that arm. He leaves and comes back to beat us sort of thing. The truth is though that Walter just doesn’t seem to have the necessary motivation. Yes, I know he got beaten down in 2006 but the man ought to be back off the grass and off of his ass by now.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
No way Bush should get more touches than . If anything, we need to use our RBs just like Tenn. Dmac is more of a scoring threat than Bush.
Start McFadden, use Bush in short yardage and goaline, and as a change up to McFadden. Bush’s extra looks should come from him complimenting McFadden, not the other way around.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
The only players on offense we have who have been productive in the NFL are as follows:
Fargas: 1 in 6 seasons
Walker: 2 in 7 seasons (not w/ Raiders)
Satele: not w/ Raiders (no exp. in the zbs)
Miller: both years
Gallery: after moving to guard in the zbs
The only players on defense we have who have been productive in the NFL are as follows:
Burgess: ever since joining the Raiders, when he hasn’t been injured
Morrison: all 4 years
Howard: all 3 years
Asomugha: last 4 years
Johnson: last year
The rest of the guys on the roster we’re counting on have college production and NFL potential. We may have seen glimpses of what they can do in the NFL, but they have yet to turn the corner and be counted on as a solid NFL player that is a building block to the foundation of this football team.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
CALIRAIDER:
I agree with you. Sapp only flaps his mouth, among other things, becaus knows he has to say something sensational-even if it is stupid-to stay on tv.
Contrast that with another ex-Raider: Woodson.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
LMN:
I just saw post #649. I’m glad you’re having a bette day. I had a lousy day the day before. This too shall pass.
You went in on your day off to help out with this mess?! You’re definetely old school. That’s the class thing to do. brother-in-law is a United Fan. Laset time I saw him he see’s Unitged taking the quadruple including the Champions League.
My
April 9th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
How did that My get down there?
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