Sapp not a Cable guy
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, April 9th, 2009 at 12:45 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Warren Sapp held an chat on NFL.com Thursday and while he paid a glowing tribute to Al Davis, he apparently doesn’t think much of the ability of his former boss to select a coach.
Q: Do you think Cable is good enough to lead the Raiders?
Sapp: Tom Cable couldn’t lead the Raiders to a picnic in his own back yard.
When asked about how he really felt about Davis, Sapp said, “One of the true legends of the game. It was an absolute pleasure to play for the man. The only thing is, I wish I could have won more for him. He embodies everything that the NFL is. He’s unmistakable. Recognize greatness when you see it, because it won’t be around too much longer. I love Al.”
Al may beg to differ on how much longer the greatness will be around.
Asked about the Raiders draft, Sapp said, “My people in Oakland are talking about picking something crazy like a safety. So don’t be surprised if they do something you don’t like in Oakland.”
Not sure at this point who Sapp`s “people” are. It’s not like any of his former defensive teammates are privy to information regarding the draft. His former coaches, Rob Ryan and Keith Millard, are gone.
There really aren’t any safeties worthy of the No. 7 overall pick, with the real outside shot being Ohio State corner Malcolm Jenkins being taken as a safety.
But that’s Warren. Never let the facts get in the way of a good quote.
Cable to talk draft Tuesday
Cable will address the media Tuesday regarding the draft and the progress of his team in the offseason.
The schedule will be announced Tuesday as well, but probably after Cable speaks.
Picnic baskets are optional.
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April 9th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Why on Earth would anyone care what Warren Sapp thinks about Oakland? Last season he was talking about how weird it was here. Now he can’t get off the Davis love train? Warren, please pick a position and stick with it. Thank you.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
CALIRAIDER G. Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
I JUST GOT DONE READIN’ THE BS SAPP HAD TO SAY ON THE NFL BLOG. HE DISSED CABLE! HE SAID “Tom Cable couldn’t lead the Raiders to a picnic in his own back yard.” FRANKLY THIS DOUSH DONT KNOW WHAT HE IS SAYING…..COME ON TO WIN TWO GAME BACK TO BACK AND IN DEC. WHEN EVERYONE WE PLAYED WAS SCRAMBLING TO GET TO THE PLAYOFFS I THINK IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT CABLE.
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Yeah, and it was Sapp that sold Al Davis on the “Greatness” of Tommy Kelly so well that the Raiders made him the highest paid DT in the league at the time.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
How high was Sapp when they talked to him?
April 9th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
SnB
Do you think with all the money paid to Dmac, that he won’t start?
I like that lineup too, but…..Dmac a 50 million dollar spot player?
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DMAC SHOULD get his 10 to 15 carries and 3 to 5 catches per game out of the backfield. Maybe another 1 or 2 lining up as a WR. But Bush should be the guy to set the tempo.
I could have put Bush/DMAC just as well.
Bush should set the tone of the game and soften up the defenses. Then DMAC can outrun and outcatch for big yards.
Of course if Cable maintains his preference for Fargas….the offense will be one-dimensional and slow and Cable will be fired at years end
April 9th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
DONT KNOW WHAT HE WAS SMOKING BUT….GIVE ME SOME LOL……SAPP IS A DOUSH NUFF SAID.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
No way Bush should get more touches than . If anything, we need to use our RBs just like Tenn. Dmac is more of a scoring threat than Bush.
Start McFadden, use Bush in short yardage and goaline, and as a change up to McFadden. Bush’s extra looks should come from him complimenting McFadden, not the other way around.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
I like the idea of Bush late in games when the D is tired and the Raiders need ball control to run out clock.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Agreed, Ryan
April 9th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
JHill/Ryan,
If DMAC can hold up physically then fine. For me, I look at the RB situation like a 6th man off the bench. Who cares who starts as long as you get your minutes.
As long as Bush and DMAC combine for 30 to 35 touches a game, I don’t care who the guy is that takes the first snap from scrimmage.
Just as long as Fargas is not the starter. It was sooooooooooooo frustrating to watch all those games last year and see DMAC and Bush used so sparingly.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Sapp: Tom Cable couldn’t lead the Raiders to a picnic in his own back yard.
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Ouch! What’s that all about?
April 9th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
hmmmmmmm, a Safety with the 7th pick……..Seems like we have already been down that road.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
SnB
I agree, I just hope Al’s economic theory agrees, too.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
He who get’s paid the most, is he who plays.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
JHill,
That’s the question mark on DMAC. He came out of last year with two turf toes, a shoulder injury and an ankle injury that kept him out of 3/4ths of all the games.
Can he hold up? That will be the question next year.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
I don’t think that Fargas will be a starter, but I still see him getting 5-10 carries a game as a backup. I just don’t believe that he will be benched outright.
Which is why I still say we should trade Bush to the highest bidder instead of watching him be a disgruntled cheerleader.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
SnB
I agree, I just hope Al’s economic theory agrees, too.
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And Cable’s sensibilities.
I have to admit that there is a slight concern that I have that Justin Fargas, Jeff Garcia and Gerard Warren charm Cable so much that he can’t resist making these three the starters in their position.
And yes, I assume that Raji or Brace will be drafted in two weeks!
April 9th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
I don’t remember DMC having injury issues at Arkansas. Hopefully last year was murphy catching up to him and the rest of his time in Oakland will be more productive.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
LAME FIX JERRY…
April 9th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Why wait till the 4qt use dmac and bush together the whole game both are great at catching the ball bush is a much better runner between the tackles than dmac.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
jhill Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
I don’t think that Fargas will be a starter, but I still see him getting 5-10 carries a game as a backup. I just don’t believe that he will be benched outright.
Which is why I still say we should trade Bush to the highest bidder instead of watching him be a disgruntled cheerleader.
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I hope you are right on the first part of your statement.
As for your 2nd…a Bush trade would be an unmitigated disaster which will have the Raiders spending a 2nd or 3rd round pick next year for a “complimentary back to DMAC”. Bush averaged 4.5 yards per limited carry.
I don’t think that Fargas or DMAC have the ability to have a Tampa Bay like game. DMAC still has to demonstrate he can carry the load and Fargas hasn’t completed a full season as a starter in two tries already.
Also, there is NO ONE in the draft I would rather have over Michael Bush. No one….Not Raji, Mauluaga, Stafford, Moreno….No one.
I think Bush can be a top tier running back if the Raiders stop their B.S ways of choosing a starter.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
i think dmac needs more than 3-5 catches/gm he lead all rb rooks in pass records also got about 1/3 less thrown his way as well
April 9th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
**Yawn**
April 9th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
McFadden will be fine…he was smart enough to make sure the Raiders’ “doctors” didn’t touch him anymore after they toe fiasco. Lesson learned.
Thankfully, the Raiders’ doctors didn’t look at Russell’s mother’s knee, they would have recommended we sign her to a three year $25 million dollar deal.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
I think that DMac would add the Oakland doctors to his injury woes, but regardless he still played through it. I think the issue was simply more of Fargas being the unquestioned starter. Everyone was healthy to start the season, yet we didn’t see DMac until Fargas hurt his groin against KC. Fargas even got his spot back after the bye week when he was only 75% or so. Kiffin and Cable simply preferred Fargas. I still haven’t seen any indication that the love for Fargas has subsided.
Trade Bush, and get someone who can be on the field for 100% of the snaps, versus someone who will see 10 or so snaps out of 50 plus.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
if we draft Jenkins or Maclin or a rush only DE, I’ll be pissed
April 9th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Remember when Dmac called his own number for that TD, when Fargas failed? Walk-in TD. That impressed me. His head is into football.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Raider Nation 951 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
I don’t remember DMC having injury issues at Arkansas. Hopefully last year was murphy catching up to him and the rest of his time in Oakland will be more productive.
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But in the NFL he was a walking injury line. Two turf toes, shoulder problems, and an ankle injury. Missed time on the field and required surgery afterwards….And he barely played this year.
The quote that said it all from the Tampa Game was Ian Eagle before Bush’s 63 yard run:
“Bush is in the backfield as the running back because Fargas has a knee injury and McFadden has an ankle injury” at 1:10 on the video
You watch this clip, I’ve posted it 100x, and tell me that Fargas or DMAC for that matter are capable of anything like that.
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80db1052
April 9th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Made me puke seen Fargas gettin stuffed all the time s`all i know….Fargas should be the guy being used in the 4th,after thunder and lighting do their thing..
April 9th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Sapp loves to talk.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
who was is that said Sapp`s soul stinks…lol
April 9th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
S&B,
You argument for Bush is a sound one, except for the fact that there are two solid RBs in front of him. And the fact that you know he is disgruntled and will leave in a few years as a FA. A healthy McFadden is a better option for us than a healthy Bush.
You base a lot off of that one Tampa Bay game. A LOT! Bush hasn’t proven he can carry the load either, and let’s not forget who is coming off the more serious injury.
AND, again let’s discuss how many star RBs have been produced out of the ZBS. We will not need to spend a draft pick next year, as we still have Louis Rankin.
You have to give up something to get something, and again, the whole premise is he is at least 2nd on the depth chart. 2nd string = backup, and sorry I would trade a backup RB for a starting DE, OLB, MLB, or WR without hesitation.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
BUSH29willtranscendDMAC20 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
i think dmac needs more than 3-5 catches/gm he lead all rb rooks in pass records also got about 1/3 less thrown his way as well
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Nice name! As for DMAC getting more catches, I don’t know how that’s going to happen. Especially if the Raiders spend $30 million for a receiver in the 1st round. If they spend that kind of money, that guy is going to demand that the pass offense is centered around him. Unless the Raiders go to a pass-happy offense, I don’t see DMAC getting more than 3 catches a game.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Trading Bush would be a mistake. First of all you can’t get equal value in return. There’s no way you can get a player of his value at his pay.
Second, to trade your best running back, because of an attachment to the 3rd best running back, is ridiculous on it’s face.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
We should trade Fargas but he’s a hard worker so we won’t. Hope Cable is smart enough to make him watch unless DMAC proves fragile
April 9th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Jhill,
This Bush not playing FB thing is smells of the Marcus Allen treatment from 20 yrs ago. Bush would only leave if the Raiders don’t give him the ball or try to convert him into a FB, which was the dumbest idea I ever heard. It was worse than the Kiffin playcalling against Buffalo.
If Bush ran a 4.3 40 no one would be talking about trading him. The Raiders haven’t had a dominant running back since Bo Jackson.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
SnB
Injurys are part of the game. You will never see me type anything even remotely close to calling DMC a better back than Bush. I didn’t want DMC last draft. I wanted Ellis or Rivers. This year its Maualuga. Bush is a beast. DMC did have a tampa type game though, aginst the Chefs.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Remember when Dmac called his own number for that TD, when Fargas failed? Walk-in TD. That impressed me. His head is into football.
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Exactly.
And remember how the coaches we talking up how agreesive he blocks for other folks? I remember one time Cable gushing about how DMac took out a safety on a run play for someone else.
All Bush has to do is have that same attitude and he would be on the field with DMac all the time. But NOoooooooooooooo! He has to pout about not wanting to block for anyone else.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
repost:
The only players on offense we have who have been productive in the NFL are as follows:
Fargas: 1 in 6 seasons
Walker: 2 in 7 seasons (not w/ Raiders)
Satele: not w/ Raiders (no exp. in the zbs)
Miller: both years
Gallery: after moving to guard in the zbs
The only players on defense we have who have been productive in the NFL are as follows:
Burgess: ever since joining the Raiders, when he hasn’t been injured
Morrison: all 4 years
Howard: all 3 years
Asomugha: last 4 years
Johnson: last year
The rest of the guys on the roster we’re counting on have college production and NFL potential. We may have seen glimpses of what they can do in the NFL, but they have yet to turn the corner and be counted on as a solid NFL player that is a building block to the foundation of this football team.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Sapp only flaps his mouth, among other things, because he knows he has to say something outrageous to stay on tv even if he knows it’s stupid.
Contrast that with another ex-Raider…Woodson.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
I think there is a slight chance that Cable gets charmed and goes with:
QB: Garcia
RB: Fargas
NT: Warren
And if any one of those three happen, Cable will be one and done.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Talent we should target:
1- J Smith/ Monroe/ Curry/ Orakpo/ Raji
2- M Johnson/ Ayers/ Gilbert/ Brace/ Moore/ Robiskie
3- Ramses B/ Bruton/ OSU LB Freeman/ Samie
4- J Williams/ NT T Taylor/ JB
I hope Al is looking at the same talent.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
This always turns into you guys defending Bush’s talents …
I have never questioned his talents or how he SHOULD be used. I think EVERYONE on this board for the most part agrees with what SHOULD happen with Bush.
But …
Aren’t we talking about what IS happening?
I want someone to tell me that they really believe that Fargas will be #3 on the depth chart. Is that really going to happen?
Again, not where Fargas SHOULD be, but what is actually IS! And we ALL know that is AT LEAST #2 on the depth chart.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Raider Nation 951 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
SnB
Injurys are part of the game. You will never see me type anything even remotely close to calling DMC a better back than Bush. I didn’t want DMC last draft. I wanted Ellis or Rivers. This year its Maualuga. Bush is a beast. DMC did have a tampa type game though, aginst the Chefs.
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True….The K.C game was something else and I thought we were on our way. Again, as long as he doesn’t become an injury case then I am cool with DMAC.
I too wanted Ellis or Dorsey, but am happy with the potential that DMAC provides on offense.
Will they use him correctly is the question. JaMarcus Russell had to go ask Cable to get DMAC in the game. THat’s ridiculous.
And we better not do a Marcus Allen on Bush because he wasn’t excited to play fullback.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Fargas should play special teams. He loves running into things.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Bush may not run a 4.3, but he can run 4.4+
April 9th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
I still don’t see the need for a WR.
Maclin = Higgins -1″
Higgins has more speed and most importantly, experiance in the NFL.
Crabtree = Shields
Both same size but my money is on Shields being faster. Both have great hands and can catch anything thrown their way.
Why waste a draft pick on a position that isn’t going to help this team get better? It makes no sence.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
LMN:
I saw post#649 on the last thread. Glad your day is better. I had a crappy one a couple of days ago.
You went in on your day off to help with the mess Huh?
Good for you.
My brother-in-law is a United fanatic (there are no other kind) and the last time I saw him he said they were going to take the quadruple including the Champions league. That was before Chelsea beat them though.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
S&B,
You argument for Bush is a sound one, except for the fact that there are two solid RBs in front of him. And the fact that you know he is disgruntled and will leave in a few years as a FA. A healthy McFadden is a better option for us than a healthy Bush.
You base a lot off of that one Tampa Bay game. A LOT! Bush hasn’t proven he can carry the load either, and let’s not forget who is coming off the more serious injury.
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Bush also gashed the chefs and should of been made the starter right after that game imo
April 9th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Jhill #42
The Raiders have to figure out if they want to win or not.
If Bush shows the same in Camp, Fargas could indeed be traded.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Fargas is #1 on the depth chart until week 4 when he gets injured.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
For 6′1/ 6′2 245 RB is a great size, but Bush has speed and quick feet. If I was to trade Bush, I would want a young player like Boldin not chad, a high 2nd RD pick and a player, of a 1st RD pick. He is only 24.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Cable will address the media Tuesday regarding the draft and the progress of his team in the offseason.
The schedule will be announced Tuesday as well, but probably after Cable speaks.
Picnic baskets are optional.
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LOL @ Jerry Mac.
Somebody better ask Cable about Crabtree and/or Raji or the “media” isn’t doing their job and deserve a collective punch in the eye.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
JHill,
I guess most of us are frustrated because what the Raiders might do is yet another mistake. Like signing Kelly to that contract or Javon Walker or LaMont Jordan or trading Randy Moss for John Bowie.
And the Fargas supporters have nothing but hard work to rely on. That’s fine, but life isn’t fair. Its also about talent.
And who would the Raiders get in a trade for Bush? Like KoolKell said, it won’t be equal value. A 2nd round pick? THat would be highway robbery. I wouldn’t take a 1st rounder for Bush.
No matter where Bush starts on the depth chart….we know at some point early in the season the commentator will say:
“Bush is in the game because of an injury too……”
April 9th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
But, like Jerry say’s. They’ll probably need all three before the season is done.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
edward teach Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Fargas should play special teams. He loves running into things.
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Fargas should play fullback. He catches like one too.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
So:
Bush for Boldin
Bush for a high 2nd and a player
Bush fir a 1st RD pick
I like the one for Boldin.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Man If fargs can get 1000 yrds wit Oneil as FB and if he can be 100% by monday nite then we will be top 5 in rushin wit lil Bo and chicken legs 7-9 baby!!! SnB true what you sayin just think mac looked better as a slot or in dumps as oppose to running the dives
April 9th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
MaddenRaider:
You ran out for a haircut before I answered you.
Post#637 on the Orakpo (last) thread.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Well, Garcia, on Jason’s blog, says he and JaMarcus are in Raider QB school this week. He did not mention Russell being 300 lbs.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
LOL @ fargas playing FB.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Raider O Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Bush may not run a 4.3, but he can run 4.4+
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My point is that Bush is probably undervalued because he doesn’t have that blazing speed everyone talks about.
I have about had it with speed. Screw speed. Its about making plays and when it was on the line Bush made plays and Fargas didn’t. Fargas is useless in the red zone because he has no hands.
Speed, speed, speed, speed. If the Raiders come out of this draft with Jeremy Maclin at #7, or, god help us, Darius Heyward-Bey, that might be my breaking point. Draft the football player Crabtree if the Raiders insist on going receiver. Not bubble screen, no route running Jeremy Maclin.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Fargus should get in the game only to protect McFadden and Bush after the game has been won. Otherwise, let him sit on the bench.
Go Lakers and Bynum.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
“The trunk blaps and its rattlin’, you ever seen a n*gga off a whole damn gallon?”
April 9th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Bush also gashed the chefs and should of been made the starter right after that game imo
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Actually, he started, or got the bulk of the carries, in the next 2 games b/c of Fargas’ groin and McFadden’s toe.
He rushed for 55 yds on 14 carries and 0 TDs against Buffalo. He followed that up with 14 carries for 48 yds and 0 TDs against SD.
Fargas came back after the bye week, and we saw 3 carries from Bush against NO for 9 yds and no TDs. Zero opportunities the next week against the Jets, followed by 6 carries for 10 yds against the Ravens.
Lastly, the 3 carries for negative 2 yds against Atl.
Like I said, basing a lot off of the one good game against TB.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
If we trade Bush for Boldin:
WRs: Boldin, Walker, JLH, Chaz, and Arman
RBs: DMC, Fargas, Louis R
I can live with that.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
jhill Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
No way Bush should get more touches than . If anything, we need to use our RBs just like Tenn. Dmac is more of a scoring threat than Bush.
Start McFadden, use Bush in short yardage and goaline, and as a change up to McFadden. Bush’s extra looks should come from him complimenting McFadden, not the other way around.
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Correct again Jhill. Dmac/Bush should be the top two backs but Dmac’s contract calls for him to get majority of touches
April 9th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
the question i have is when Bush and Dmac line up in the backfield at the same time,as many of you suggest and wish,who is the RB and who is the FB?surely not Bush because him playing FB is idiotic,right S&B!
April 9th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Ryan:
Post #7 is real logical. I agree. I think they should be alternated anyway with McFadden outside.
At some point Test-dummy Fargas stands a real good chance of being injured plus McFadden didn’t exactly play a lot of games last year.
We need all three.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Raider O Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
If we trade Bush for Boldin:
WRs: Boldin, Walker, JLH, Chaz, and Arman
RBs: DMC, Fargas, Louis R
I can live with that.
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I couldnt! That means Farglass still gets a good amount of carries throughout the season. Bad idea. Phuck trading for any WR if it means Bush leaves and Farglass gets PT again. I’m sick of this shyt
April 9th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
I liked Fargas. But they wasted his career on the bench playing behind LaMont Jordan. They didn’t think much of him early in his career when there was NO TALENT on the team…..Now that they have young talent, now is the time to play him.
Young guys have to play to get better. The Raiders waste more young talent because they sit on the bench just watching and not playing.
Did the same thing to Nick Bell. Wasted all those carries with a 30 something Eric Dickerson.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Raider O Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
If we trade Bush for Boldin:
WRs: Boldin, Walker, JLH, Chaz, and Arman
RBs: DMC, Fargas, Louis R
I can live with that.
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I couldnt! That means Farglass still gets a good amount of carries throughout the season. Bad idea. Phuck trading for any WR if it means Bush leaves and Farglass gets PT again. I’m sick of this shyt
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Yup!
April 9th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
I agree SnB, but speed kills. lol
April 9th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
sapp looks like shrek
April 9th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
we neeed a reciever PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!
April 9th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
I think other team still think Bush is damaged goods and they wont take a chance on trading for him when they could get someone like Wells or the Georgia RB in the draft.
I’m happy, because I think if Bush has recovered from that defastating injury, Bush will be something special.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
WHETHER IN THE DRAFT OR TRADE WE NEED A RECIEVER BOTTOM LINE THATS IT WE HAVE TO HAVE A RECIEVING CORE WE ARE HORRIBLE IN THAT DEPARTMENT
April 9th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
lefty12 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
the question i have is when Bush and Dmac line up in the backfield at the same time,as many of you suggest and wish,who is the RB and who is the FB?surely not Bush because him playing FB is idiotic,right S&B!
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You know doggone well that what you are saying is dishonest. I am sure Bush and DMAC will block when the play calls for it. That’s different than lining up exclusively at FB for the entire game. THat’s what Cable wanted to do.
Stupid, idiotic, foolish, incompetent…you choose the word.
The idea, that Bush would be blocking for Fargas is an obscenity.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
S&B-btw,in the Raiders off. the FBs must have decent hands because they catch passes out of the backfield.Raider FBs are not just blockers ie. L.Neil(?).
April 9th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
No matter where Bush starts on the depth chart….we know at some point early in the season the commentator will say:
“Bush is in the game because of an injury too……”
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I don’t know that, and I’m not going to sit here and hope for an injury to the better player McFadden so we can see more looks from Bush.
I would take a 2nd round pick for Bush in a heartbeat. We all know that a solid DE, LB, or S will be there for the taking that would be able to start for us day 1.
Unless of course Cable comes out and says that Bush will be featured along with McFadden and Russell.
I see 25-30 pass attempts for Russell, and at least 20 touches for McFadden, and 5 or so for Fargas. Doesn’t leave much for Bush.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Giving Farglass any more than 10 carries in a ball game means we are still on the buddy system and do not plan on winning ever again. I’m tired of watching trash year after year get playing time on this team. In 2007 it made me sick ot my stomach to watch Farglass actually start over a super bowl player like Dominic Rhodes. We should have never resgined Farglass and kept Rhodes for 08 season since it was the last year of his contract. Notice in 2007 when Farglass went up against stout defenses he did shyt? But when Rhodes played against Jax and SD he went back to back 100 yard rushing games. People dont get it and never will
April 9th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
If we trade Bush for Boldin, we can draft another RB in later RDs. I’m a big fan of Bush, buy if we are going to trade him, I would like to get real Young talent or a high pick. That’s what I’m trying to say.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Lefty12 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
S&B-btw,in the Raiders off. the FBs must have decent hands because they catch passes out of the backfield.Raider FBs are not just blockers ie. L.Neil(?).
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But they don’t run the ball.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
BUSH IS A STUD THIS IS HIS SECOND SEASON BACK FROM INJURY AND HE IS GOING TO GET THE STARTING JOB AWAY FROM FARGAS HOPEFULLY HE WILL WIN IT IN CAMP BUT HE WAS COMING INTO FORM AT THE END OF LAST YEAR.
THAT TAMPA TEAM WAS TRYING TO GET IN THE PLAYOFFS AND ARE O-LINE AS IS DISCUSSED HERE FREQUENTLY WAS NOT GOOD LAST YEAR AND HE DESTROYED TAMPA.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Trading your best players on speculation, is no way to acquire talent.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Bush for Boldin
Bush for a high 2nd and a player
Bush fir a 1st RD pick
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Sorry, none of those things are remotely possible. I saw the same stuff in here a year or two ago about Andrew Walter, lol. “We can get a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Walter!”
We might get Boldin for Bush, 7th pick and maybe a 2nd or third rounder next year.
Even Arizona is not in the business of giving away players.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
jhill Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
No matter where Bush starts on the depth chart….we know at some point early in the season the commentator will say:
“Bush is in the game because of an injury too……”
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I don’t know that, and I’m not going to sit here and hope for an injury to the better player McFadden so we can see more looks from Bush.
I would take a 2nd round pick for Bush in a heartbeat. We all know that a solid DE, LB, or S will be there for the taking that would be able to start for us day 1.
Unless of course Cable comes out and says that Bush will be featured along with McFadden and Russell.
I see 25-30 pass attempts for Russell, and at least 20 touches for McFadden, and 5 or so for Fargas. Doesn’t leave much for Bush.
Leaves alot for Bush because Dmac is a weapon not just a RB. Any carries Farglass gets should go automatically to Bush. It is embarrassing to know people would want to break up the best chance of a great NFL rb combo that the Raiders havent had in 20 years just for a 2nd rounder. I dont understand
April 9th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
jhill Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Actually, he started, or got the bulk of the carries, in the next 2 games b/c of Fargas’ groin and McFadden’s toe.
He rushed for 55 yds on 14 carries and 0 TDs against Buffalo. He followed that up with 14 carries for 48 yds and 0 TDs against SD.
Fargas came back after the bye week, and we saw 3 carries from Bush against NO for 9 yds and no TDs. Zero opportunities the next week against the Jets, followed by 6 carries for 10 yds against the Ravens.
Lastly, the 3 carries for negative 2 yds against Atl.
Like I said, basing a lot off of the one good game against TB.
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Against Buffalo, maybe if Kiffin wasn’t calling all running plays on every down things would be different. Also, the Raiders would get to the red zone and then inexplicably throw on every down. Nevertheless, he still averaged 4 yds per carry.
Against San Diego he had some 7 catches. Fargas couldn’t get 7 catches in a half of a season.
The other games you list he didn’t play. Those are the number of carries Fargas should have received.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
we neeed a reciever PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!
We have recievers. Chaz, Arman, and JLH. don’t need any others.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Giving Farglass any more than 10 carries in a ball game means we are still on the buddy system and do not plan on winning ever again.
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Exactly…injuries excluded of course.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Trading your best players on speculation, is no way to acquire talent.
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Yes Kell. Trade Bush and watch him be a stellar back for years just so you can get disgruntled WRs makes zero sense. Damn Chad and Anquian. Fugg em both
April 9th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
IT WOULD BE IGNORANT TO TRADE BUSH
April 9th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
IT WOULD BE IGNORANT TO TRADE BUSH
No it wouldnt. It would be stupid because the Raiders know better. Ignorance is for folks who dont know any better. you would think Al and company would
April 9th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Then again, we did get a 2nd round pick for P. Buchanon!
April 9th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
POST # 88 WHAT A GROUP OF STELLAR RECIEVERS C MON I BET EVERY OTHER TEAM IN THE LEAGUE IS JEALOUS OF THAT GROUP OPEN YOUR EYES
April 9th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
KK-they used to.and doesn’t it seem they are trying to bring back the older way of doing things and leaving the WCO behind?
Brien-Rhodes is so valuable he is still an unsigned FA.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Brien,
The Raiders should use the K.C running attack as the model. Both DMAC and Bush got touches. Why not do that. If the Raiders keep both together in prominent roles, I bet that those two would alternate games where one guy breaks out. One week its a K.C game for DMAC, the next they use Bush to run a Tampa like game.
Play’em both, that’s what any sensible team would do. Fargas had one great game. That was Miami in the mud.
As for the draft. I don’t think there is any player in the draft I would take over Bush. I am being serious. There are only two DE’s in the draft that can help the Raiders, two DTs and I don’t value receivers over a running back.
The Raiders really have to try to screw this up. Given Cable’s affection for Fargas, I won’t sleep easy until after the draft is over.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Trading your best players on speculation, is no way to acquire talent.
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Yes Kell. Trade Bush and watch him be a stellar back for years just so you can get disgruntled WRs makes zero sense. Damn Chad and Anquian. Fugg em both
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Yup…Agreed.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
jhill Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Actually, he started, or got the bulk of the carries, in the next 2 games b/c of Fargas’ groin and McFadden’s toe.
He rushed for 55 yds on 14 carries and 0 TDs against Buffalo. He followed that up with 14 carries for 48 yds and 0 TDs against SD.
Fargas came back after the bye week, and we saw 3 carries from Bush against NO for 9 yds and no TDs. Zero opportunities the next week against the Jets, followed by 6 carries for 10 yds against the Ravens.
Lastly, the 3 carries for negative 2 yds against Atl.
Like I said, basing a lot off of the one good game against TB.
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No alot are basing it off the fact Farglass sucks and isnt versatile and we know bush is. A guy needs a chance to show his skills more than not. Farglass has shown us what he can do and that is shyt! Jhill maybe you can dig up the archives or go to other raider sites and see how many people were yelling for Bush to play in the summer. Or maybe should should have been at the Raider Nation celebration like I was when fans were saying to Bush he should be the starter. Jhill you are off on this one bigtime
April 9th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
In a few yrs Bush will be a FA, so if we can trade for Boldin or a 1st, why not trade him?!
April 9th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Like I said, basing a lot off of the one good game against
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ok stats dont lie,but 3 different play-callers in a season tell its own story..
April 9th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
lefty12 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
KK-they used to.and doesn’t it seem they are trying to bring back the older way of doing things and leaving the WCO behind?
Brien-Rhodes is so valuable he is still an unsigned FA.
Lefty and? He is still a better player than Farglass. Those last two games in 07 proved it as he wasnt a running and recieving threat. Rhodes had 1000 yard season just like farglass and actually has come up big in bigger games than Huggy can ever dream of
April 9th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Bush signed a 4yr contract.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
My people are telling me that Sapp has had a beef with Cable ever since Cable cut in front of him in line at the Hometown Buffet.
Remind me again why I should give a sh1t about what Warren Sapp has to say. That guy would sell his momma out if would get a good laugh.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Stats do lie! If Stats were real then Marino is greatest hands down and Kareem is hands down better than Michael. Stats are for accountants and dont tell the true story. Is Emmitt better than Jim Brown or Walter?
April 9th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
S&B-no we shouldn’t use the Chiefs way as an example of how we use our RBs.we should use the old Raider way.that way we WOULD utilize both Bush and Dmac.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
I WOULD RATHER TRADE THE 7 PICK FOR BOLDIN THAN TRADE BUSH. IF BOLDIN WERE ON THE BOARD THIS YEAR AT 7 WE WOULD TAKE HIM SO WHY RISK A PLAYER THAT COULD BECOME A WASH. BUT FOR THE LOVE OF THE NATION DONT TRADE BUSH. HIM AND DMAC ARE A AWESOME DUO THATS THE ONE BRIGHT SPOT WE HAVE.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Warren Sappopotmous needs to shut the hell up. He is a loser and I never liked him. I use to boo him at games. He was garbage his last 5 years in the NFL, go figure
April 9th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
lefty12 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
S&B-no we shouldn’t use the Chiefs way as an example of how we use our RBs.we should use the old Raider way.that way we WOULD utilize both Bush and Dmac.
I think what Snb is trying to say, eventhough the chiefs run D was pitiful, that game should be a blueprint on how to use those two guys. Dmac busted then early and Bush 90 yards put them to sleep. Could Farglass make those plays? Nope No way and no how. Gimme examples
April 9th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Brien-he must have some issues-bad locker room guy or something.i don’t know if he was a better runner than Fargas,but i’ll give it to you he was a much better Rec. than Fargas is.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Its okay guys Start Farglass. Keep Burgess against the RT. Let Morrison continue to not be a presence at MLB. Let Warren/Sands play 2 gap like a UT. Yeah yeah yeah let’s stay in fantasy land shall we?
April 9th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
So he has 2 yrs on his contract. I don’t think we are a SB team now, or next year. If we trade for Boldin, and give him a 6 or 7 yr contract. We make sure JR has a great target when we are ready to be a SB team, and we can draft another RB this yearor thenext to team up with DMC. You can always find quality RBs, but WRs are diff.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
FARGAS WILL BE A GOOD BACK UP AT A CHEAP PRICE LEAVE HIM ON THE TEAM BUT DONT START HIM.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Why is it that everyone blames the WR’s for the problems last season? Russell couldn’t hit the broad side of the barn, litterly. Curry couldn’t catch a cold, but the others were pretty good when the ball was catchable.
Who’s fault is it if the pass is thrown at the WR’s feet?
Whos fault is it when the QB has to run for his life?
Whos fault is it that the Raiders kept getting holding penaties and false starts called all season?
Sure as hell can’t blame the WR’s for that now can you.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Remember that one time when Fargas scored a TD? Neither do I.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
lefty12 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
S&B-no we shouldn’t use the Chiefs way as an example of how we use our RBs.we should use the old Raider way.that way we WOULD utilize both Bush and Dmac.
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Whatever semantics you want to use. Bottom line….both backs should combine for 30+ touches…scrap the West Coast Offense and go back to a vertical game that emphasizes the receivers challenging the safeties and use the tight end over the middle and throw to the running backs. And a vertical attack does not have to mean 7 step drops either…except for playaction like on this clip below:
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80bfbbd6
April 9th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
lefty12 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Brien-he must have some issues-bad locker room guy or something.i don’t know if he was a better runner than Fargas,but i’ll give it to you he was a much better Rec. than Fargas is.
Aw leftster you are smarter than this! Rhodes has made plays in postseason. Rhodes has ran for a 1000 yards before in season after subbing for a pro bowler like Edge! Rhodes sat the bench most of the year but played well the last two games of 2007 against top 10 defenses. What did Farglass do against top Ds? I’ll wait
April 9th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Again B,
It’s not about the fact that Fargas SHOULDnt be playing, or what Bush SHOULD be doing in our lineup.
Fargas is #2 on the depth chart plain and simple.
And for the sake of argument, Bush is #2 on the depth chart and we model the NY Giants multiple RB system. Bush would still be limited to 10 carries or so, while DMac gets his 15-20, and Fargas gets his 5.
Anything other than Bush 25 times a games does us no good! Do you REALLY believe that we are going to see anything close to that?!?!?!
Fugg no, and EVREYONE knows it.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
951,
That’s why we need Andre Smith. He will make our WRs, RBs and QB ALL LOOK BETTER!
April 9th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Dakota Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Remember that one time when Fargas scored a TD? Neither do I.
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The 2nd K.C game if I recall. After Johnson intercepted a pass and returned to the 1 yd line. Of course later there was a costly fumble….
April 9th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Raiders scraped the west coast O in November guys. The queer bait offense that MR loves so much cant win a title in today’s NFL. We are running the Cable offense. Kinda similar to how he had at ucla in 2005. Explosive plays and use of your running back’s abilities
April 9th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Rk……….Name………….. Att …… Comp …… % ….. yds …. TD … Int ….Sack
27……….J Russell ……..368 …….198…….53.8…..2,423…..13…..8………31
Rk……..Name…………… Att …… Comp … % ……. yds …. TD … Int ….Sack
23……..M Schaub ……. 380 ……. 251 … 66.1 …. 3,043….15…. 10…….23
24……. J Garcia……….. 376…….. 244…. 64.9……2,712….12….. 6……..23
25……. T Edwards…… 374…….. 245…. 65.5……2,699….11…..10…….23
26……. R Fitzpatrick…..372…….. 221…..59.4……1,905…..8…….9……..38
April 9th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Fitzpatrick had TJ, CJ, and T. Henry,
Russell had Chaz, Curry and JLH.
Who had better numbers?
Who had better receivers?
April 9th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Is Russell’s completion % better than Shaq’s FT %???
April 9th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
jhill Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Again B,
It’s not about the fact that Fargas SHOULDnt be playing, or what Bush SHOULD be doing in our lineup.
Fargas is #2 on the depth chart plain and simple.
And for the sake of argument, Bush is #2 on the depth chart and we model the NY Giants multiple RB system. Bush would still be limited to 10 carries or so, while DMac gets his 15-20, and Fargas gets his 5.
Anything other than Bush 25 times a games does us no good! Do you REALLY believe that we are going to see anything close to that?!?!?!
Fugg no, and EVREYONE knows it.
J, but you arent grasping the reality that all we are saying is Farglass is #2 that means we are losers and shall lose in 09. Who ever said Bush 25 times a game. If you saw my post earlier I said I agree with Dmac getting more touches but Bush outta get in there as well. Dmac is a weapon that could be split out wide…..who is the RB then in that formation? Better not be Farglass
April 9th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Edwards had Lee Evans, Josh Reed, Parrish and Hardy. Most logical people would consider that WR corp better than what is currently in Oakland, Right? If that was the case, why did Edwards throw for only 263 more yards than Russell on 6 more attempts and 47 more completions? Edwards threw 2 fewer TD’s and 2 more INT’s. Interesting.
Garcia playing in Tampa had a WR corp better than what is in Oakland. They had Antonio Bryant, Ike Hilliard and Michale Clayton. Garcia threw 8 more passes, completed 46 more for only 289 more yards. Garcia threw 1 fewer TD and 2 fewer INT’s
Schaub was the NFL’s Rookie of the Year last season. He attempted 12 more passes, completed 53 more passes for 620 more yards. Ryan also threw 2 more TD’s and 2 more INT’s while leading the Falcons to the Playoffs.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
doubt it Dakota
April 9th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
DMac needs to get 20-25 touches EVERY game. Fugg what you’re talking about with Bush. McFadden is a threat everytime he touches the ball, unlike Bush who is more ofa body blow style of attack. I don’t want to see DMac up the middle a bunch of times, or behind a FB. But we do need to see him as a single back behind 2 TEs. And we do need to see him pounding the edge, looking for all those famous ZBS cutback holes. And yes I do want to see him in the passing game with a S or LB trying to cover him at least 5 or 6 times a game.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
We aren’t selecting double d bra having A Smith. Not for the ZBS and they arent going OT at 7.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
The RK is according to number of pass attempts.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
I’m not saying trade Bush, but if we trade him. I want Boldin.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
The Raiders should use the K.C running attack as the model. Both DMAC and Bush got touches. Why not do that.
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Because the days of Jamarcus Russell only throwing 15 times a game are over!
April 9th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Its okay guys Start Farglass. Keep Burgess against the RT. Let Morrison continue to not be a presence at MLB. Let Warren/Sands play 2 gap like a UT. Yeah yeah yeah let’s stay in fantasy land shall we?”
Brien
It is my understanding that Burgess plays over the RT by choice, it is HIS preference, and not a design and misusage by the Raiders.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
jhill Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
DMac needs to get 20-25 touches EVERY game. Fugg what you’re talking about with Bush. McFadden is a threat everytime he touches the ball, unlike Bush who is more ofa body blow style of attack. I don’t want to see DMac up the middle a bunch of times, or behind a FB. But we do need to see him as a single back behind 2 TEs. And we do need to see him pounding the edge, looking for all those famous ZBS cutback holes. And yes I do want to see him in the passing game with a S or LB trying to cover him at least 5 or 6 times a game.
No fugg what you are talking about with Bush. Fugg the fact you are neglecting to notice Raider teams that won titles had two RBs that can get it done. Fugg that you are ignoring the Raiders will run formations that will have both in the game at the same time. Fugg that you are ignoring Al’s words at the Feb presser. There’s your fugg
April 9th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
The entertainment from Sapp is a playful way to create controversy. What would you have him say, “Cable is going to be a great head coach” where would that position him when the fans agree and or nobody cares.
My reason Sapp hates Cable is Sapp has notoriously complained about being cut in the ZBS from other OL coaches in his pro carreer.
Would you like to be cut at the knees or man to man with the guy across from you. Sapp’s is smooth and his quickness is how he made his living, staying low and he then will utilize his quickness to motor by lineman.
Sapp hated playing ZBS teams, and thus Cable is on his schit list.
Sapp has made comments about those OL coaches, Bob Mickittrick,49ers, and others.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Its okay guys Start Farglass. Keep Burgess against the RT. Let Morrison continue to not be a presence at MLB. Let Warren/Sands play 2 gap like a UT. Yeah yeah yeah let’s stay in fantasy land shall we?
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LOL…..and some of these guys envision Garcia as the QB. Wouldn’t that be fun…
April 9th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Why is it that everyone blames the WR’s for the problems last season? Russell couldn’t hit the broad side of the barn, litterly. Curry couldn’t catch a cold, but the others were pretty good when the ball was catchable.
Who’s fault is it if the pass is thrown at the WR’s feet?
Whos fault is it when the QB has to run for his life?
Whos fault is it that the Raiders kept getting holding penaties and false starts called all season?
Sure as hell can’t blame the WR’s for that now can you.
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so what? are you joining the Dakota chant for o-line or the Norco Bob chant for a QB in the draft?
April 9th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Its okay guys Start Farglass. Keep Burgess against the RT. Let Morrison continue to not be a presence at MLB. Let Warren/Sands play 2 gap like a UT. Yeah yeah yeah let’s stay in fantasy land shall we?”
Brien
It is my understanding that Burgess plays over the RT by choice, it is HIS preference, and not a design and misusage by the Raiders.
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Uh it is a misusage by the Raiders to even have a guy like that going up against the RT and TE who cant play the run well. Yeah preference to give up hella yards I say
April 9th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
jhill Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
The Raiders should use the K.C running attack as the model. Both DMAC and Bush got touches. Why not do that.
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Because the days of Jamarcus Russell only throwing 15 times a game are over!
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Yes they are….the Raiders didn’t exacly light up the scoreboard that day. With more third down conversions there will be plenty of touches for everybody
April 9th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Dakota Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
“Is Russell’s completion % better than Shaq’s FT %???”
Shaq has had 16 Pro seasons to amass a sub par FT%. JaMarcus has only played 1 Pro season. Get back to me on this when JaMarcus has a few more years under his belt.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Burgess deserves to be shipped out of here first and foremost. He better be a draft day trade or the run defense will have a weak link AGAIN
April 9th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Its okay guys Start Farglass. Keep Burgess against the RT. Let Morrison continue to not be a presence at MLB. Let Warren/Sands play 2 gap like a UT. Yeah yeah yeah let’s stay in fantasy land shall we?”
Brien
It is my understanding that Burgess plays over the RT by choice, it is HIS preference, and not a design and misusage by the Raiders.
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Uh it is a misusage by the Raiders to even have a guy like that going up against the RT and TE who cant play the run well. Yeah preference to give up hella yards I say”
Regardless, it is Burgess that insists on playing on that side, same thing when he was in Philly.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Russell’s days of 15 passes are over but its not like he is tossing 35-40 times ya dig?
April 9th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Burgess deserves to be shipped out of here first and foremost. He better be a draft day trade or the run defense will have a weak link AGAIN
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Brien
Any other strong opinions today? Do you think we keep Wade this season? I know you think he is a stud.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Burgess insists because he is a punk and knows he is overrated and cant beat a quality quick foot LT. Fugg Burgess get him outta here now.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
“he (Sapp) apparently doesn’t think much of the ability of his former boss (Al Davis) to select a coach.”
Who does?
April 9th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Raider Dell Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Burgess deserves to be shipped out of here first and foremost. He better be a draft day trade or the run defense will have a weak link AGAIN
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Brien
Any other strong opinions today? Do you think we keep Wade this season? I know you think he is a stud.
First off, when did I ever say he was a stud? Go dig up the archives and prove that. I just said he is much better than Grove which is fact. You even admitted last year in the middle of the season Grove is a waste of space. You can even pull up archives this year and hear my cry and yell for a center. Wade I still would rather have than Grove. Notice how garbage Grove is in goaline when you cant ZBS so much?
April 9th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
“he (Sapp) apparently doesn’t think much of the ability of his former boss (Al Davis) to select a coach.”
Who does?
But you think much of the big bankers’ selected choice for puppet regime president in the US
April 9th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Burgess insists because he is a punk and knows he is overrated and cant beat a quality quick foot LT. Fugg Burgess get him outta here now.”
Hard to argue with that, two years ago might have been different. The only thing I am thinking is that he is in a contract year and I expect him to play like a beast.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Last year was an anomaly. Kiffin’s playcalling was night & day from Cable’s.
I appreciate how Russell, Henderson, Dmac & Bush, Higgins & Schillens came out of it.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
MR, you back after getting that quaf shaped up at the barber?
April 9th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Brien
Who is better Salatele or Wade?
April 9th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
The coaches determine where the players play….not the other way around.
John Marshall, if he’s worth a flip, had better line up Burgess on the right side of the field.
If Burgess can’t play from the right side then throw Scott in there. He had more sacks last year anyway
April 9th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
“We are running the Cable offense.”
LOL. What is that?
April 9th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Last year was an anomaly. Kiffin’s playcalling was night & day from Cable’s.
I appreciate how Russell, Henderson, Dmac & Bush, Higgins & Schillens came out of it.
Yup Kell we are agreeing lately
Also guess who yelled for those guys to get action from the summer and through the season? Take a wild guess lol
April 9th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Brien.never questioned Rhodes ability.he has proven he belongs in the league.but you can’t explain why he is still an UFA if there isn’t some problem.we all know that there are guys who are not in the league for reasons that have nothing to do with ability.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
What’s a quaf, Brien?
April 9th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Put a Jarron Gilbert or Tyson Jackson where Burgess is currently lining up and you will knock off quite a few yards from the putrid run defense
April 9th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
J, but you arent grasping the reality that all we are saying is Farglass is #2 that means we are losers and shall lose in 09. Who ever said Bush 25 times a game.
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I would probably say that I don’t accept that as reality. Fargas as #2, and Rankin at #3 with McFadden as a clear cut #1 does not mean we lose in ‘09. I don’t buy that for a second. I’m not buying into this scenario where McFadden gets hurt and Bush comes in to save the day. That’s plan B. I need a strong plan A before I start worrying about plan B.
And I’m the one saying Bush should get 25 carries a game if you want to turn down Boldin, or a high draft pick for him. I would trade a b/u RB and his 10 carries a game for a pro bowl WR, or the 2nd rd pick where I could get a starter at LB, DE, WR, or OL.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
“We are running the Cable offense.”
LOL. What is that?
It’s funny to grab only one sentence out of that and completely ignore the next sentence which would answer your question
April 9th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
“We are running the Cable offense.”
LOL. What is that?
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An offense that is suited for a strong armed QB. No more of this WCO B.S
April 9th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Sorry, Brien, it’s just that I was laughing so hard when you said “the cable offense”, I stopped reading. I’ll go back up and read the rest of your comment. Because I’m really interested in “THE Cable offense”. LOL.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
cable slowly fazed out the west coast offense as the season went on and the raiders were better for it.cable will continue down the path he started last year.he just has to figure put a way to run bush and mcfadden together, not just dmac in the slot.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
SnB Defense Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
The coaches determine where the players play….not the other way around.
John Marshall, if he’s worth a flip, had better line up Burgess on the right side of the field.
If Burgess can’t play from the right side then throw Scott in there. He had more sacks last year anyway”
Simply not the case unfortunately. Ask Michael Bush how he liked playing Fullback. Exactly, he didn’t play fullback because he didn’t want to, but the coaches sure as hell wanted him to. I’m not saying he should have played fullback, I was just using that as an example. Burgess is the same way, and I am positive that the Raiders knew that fact when they traded for him. It paid off for a few years, but to the detriment of the run defense.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
jhill Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
J, but you arent grasping the reality that all we are saying is Farglass is #2 that means we are losers and shall lose in 09. Who ever said Bush 25 times a game.
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I would probably say that I don’t accept that as reality. Fargas as #2, and Rankin at #3 with McFadden as a clear cut #1 does not mean we lose in ‘09. I don’t buy that for a second. I’m not buying into this scenario where McFadden gets hurt and Bush comes in to save the day. That’s plan B. I need a strong plan A before I start worrying about plan B.
And I’m the one saying Bush should get 25 carries a game if you want to turn down Boldin, or a high draft pick for him. I would trade a b/u RB and his 10 carries a game for a pro bowl WR, or the 2nd rd pick where I could get a starter at LB, DE, WR, or OL.
Wrong! We lose in 09 with Farglass playing a significant role for this team. Bush will get more than 10 carries at number 2. You are missing this fact left and right my friend. Dmac’s 25 touches wont be all run plays. You have a lead late inthe game who wears down the opponents? Farglass? 3 and out punt time and D gives up TD to lose
April 9th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
SnB, why call it “The Cable offense”? Like “the Bill Walsh offense”? That’s why I’m laughing.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Who cares what Warrne Sapp has to say. he is paid to talk and that is all he is anymore.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Jhill……..Dmac/Bush is plan A point blank. Any other plan at RB will result in loss after loss in 09. We want to win for real right? Okay
April 9th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
I should have said when the Raiders signed Burgess as a FA, not traded for him…
April 9th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
SnB, why call it “The Cable offense”? Like “the Bill Walsh offense”? That’s why I’m laughing.
ok MR we are running the Al Davis offense. That’s what you want right. Al Davis only, Al Davis only. LOL its quite repetitive and you still refuse to talk about the actual players and the draft. But all day you bash Al and suck off this Obama clown as if he is worth a damn
April 9th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Bill Walsh, Paul Brown, Don Coryell…step aside. We’re running THE Tom Cable offense in ‘09!
April 9th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Burgess has gotta go. Sorry but it aint working as a LDE. He is scared to play against the LT for the majority of the game.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Actually Bill Walsh never invented a phuckin offense at all. So there isnt a Bill Walsh offense. MR the other two are legit
April 9th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Brien, relax. I’m just messing with you. I mean, you’re over here talking about “the Tom Cable offense”, like he’s Charlie Weiss. And you’re surprised someone’s laughing?
April 9th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
So MR, tell us how the barber shaped your quaf to get you ready for the big weekend in Sac lol
April 9th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Laughing is when we find out you finally lose your virginity
April 9th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Brien, explain to us just how you know that Bill Walsh never invented an offense.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
RaiderDogg
Your reasons for Burgess on the defensive line as the LDE is all correct, everything.
Let me add one more he is left handed, I read a story where he feels comfortable with his left hand down in the three point stance.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Brien, why are you getting pissed? Talking about virginity now. You know, the site is moderated. Guess we’ll be seeing you under another name in a few days, when this one gets banned. Chill out.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
SnB, why call it “The Cable offense”? Like “the Bill Walsh offense”? That’s why I’m laughing.
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I don’t care what you call it. As long as the only dinking and dunking is going to the running backs.
This play represents what the Raiders will look like:
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80bfbbd6
April 9th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Al Davis, February 2009.
“You put (McFadden) and Bush in the backfield … you got your two wide receivers and you stick McFadden in the slot and you have to cover him as a wide receiver. It’s tough to put a linebackers on him, and then you start running Bush if they start pulling out of there with linebackers. It’s a lot of problems for the defense.”
Jeff Garcia on head coach Tom Cable yesterday:
“…I think that him being a former in-the-trenches type of guy he has a running mentally. We have great running backs here in Oakland. That’s going to be the type of personality this team is going to carry.
It’s going to be a smash mouth type of personality and I think that’s great for the quarterback position in the sense that it’s something that we can build off of with the passing game. Being able to utilize those running backs and utilize their capabilities and their abilities is only going to enhance and help the QB’s when it comes to throwing the football down the field.”
April 9th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Jhill……..Dmac/Bush is plan A point blank. Any other plan at RB will result in loss after loss in 09. We want to win for real right? Okay
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You mean .. YOU HOPE Dmac/Bush is plan A.
And the fact that you keep missing is that I too HOPE that Bush is in the plans over Fargas.
But the fact of the matter is Bush only played because Fargas was hurt in that Tampa game. I just don’t believe that Fargas is #3 on the depth chart until I see it. And despite what you say, you know it too which is why you want him off them team. You already said you have no problem with him as a #3 RB on this team.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Brien, what is a quaf?
April 9th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
The Real MaddenRaider,
who cares what the offense is called.what cable ran at the end the season looked better than any west coast crap kiffen ran in 20 games with two traning camps.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Didn’t Cable come out and admit that he hasn’t changed the playbook much? So aren’t we running the Kiffin offense?
Whatever offense it is, I sure hope Cable doesn’t have to have McFadden draw him up more goal line plays in the dirt. jeeeeezuzuzuzuz
April 9th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Cable can still give Fargas a game ball each week, just give it to him for staying on the bench and not injuring our O-linemen by running into the back of them.
Pound with Bush, watch DMAC run away and score.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Marley, the “Tom Cable Offense” is all the rage across the NFL right now. More and more teams are switching to it. There’s a song out now called “The Tom Cable”. They made a dance out of it.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
I don’t care what you call it. As long as the only dinking and dunking is going to the running backs.
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You don’t want to see JLH on a short crossing route? He scored on that play twice last year. Buff and NE.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Brien,you make very good points quite often,but when you dislike a player,i believe you views become tainted and you will never give them any credit.while it is obvious Fargas shouldn’t be the starter for us,he also isn’t as bad as you like to make him out to be.just like when S&B seems to think Kelly and Warren couldn’t play for Chabot.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Dell
That makes sense that he is left handed.
Only a few days left, are you eyeing a nice little vacation come April 16th? I am sure that you deserve it.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Lefty, Brien’s gone now. He’s practicing the Tom Cable dance. It’s not only an NFL offensive strategy, it’s a culture. Kids all across the bay are doing “the Cable”
April 9th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Ghostride the whip
Ghostride the whip
now gas, break, dip dip
gas, break, dip dip,
Do the Tom CAble
Do the Tom Cable,
Let me see you shake your chin(s)
Let me see you shake your chins…
April 9th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
The Cable/Davis Offense:
Zone Blocking Run Game + Down Field Passing Game.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
RaiderDogg
The vacation will start after the draft is concluded.
I can’t wait, this year has some challenges.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
gotta go-nice debate guys.later.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
MaddenRaider
“Bill Walsh, Paul Brown, Don Coryell…step aside. We’re running THE Tom Cable offense in ‘09!.”
I’ll admit it, that was kinda funny…
April 9th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
7 step drop, drop
7 step drop, drop
Now, punting team, punting team
punting team, punting team
Go stooopid….dumb dumb
go stoooopid…dumb dumb
April 9th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
RaiderDogg
good afternoon good to see you are in the fray.
for anyone – what good what it do for Burgess to play right end on D and go against the opposing team’s best lineman? He makes perhaps two tackles a year in the run game as it is and an LT would just negate him completely.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Which one of you guys is the Allen Iverson fan? One of you likes Iverson, wherever he plays, and the Denver Nuggets…who was that? If you are out there I have a fun article for you to read!!!
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/9436532/No-question,-Iverson-was-never-the-Answer
April 9th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Dakota, leave AI alone. We’re talking about practice, man. Practice.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
It’s too bad you’re gone, Brien. I was hoping to hear more about The Tom Cable, and how Bill Walsh didn’t invent an offense. Left me with a real cliff hanger there. Thanks a lot.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
“You put (McFadden) and Bush in the backfield … you got your two wide receivers and you stick McFadden in the slot and you have to cover him as a wide receiver. It’s tough to put a linebackers on him, and then you start running Bush if they start pulling out of there with linebackers. It’s a lot of problems for the defense.”
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Would love to see it happen. But I still don’t like this vanilla usage. Bush and McFadden in the backfield mean no lead blocker. Defense can easily go to the nickel as that would primarily be a pass formation. I actually see the 3-4 defense being pretty effective against this formation with us being down one blocker.
I think we are all anxious to see how the “cable offense” will look, and who gets to play.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Did anyone ever stop to think before ragging on The Cable Guy that it is a learning process for him as well. Never been a play caller or HC in the big leagues, never ran a camp, never conducted a draft, never had to deal with interviewing teamwide player evaluations. Give the guy a break. He is not some spoiled half-a$$ed kid. The man seems genuinely sincere and appears to be working hard at his job.
And if you say blah blah blah his record in Idaho or his loyalty to Kwame etc., well, if none of you have ever made mstakes then throw the first stone.
And screw the mouth that roared, Cecil Sapp’s cousin. The guy only cares about the sound of his own voice. Indeed, Warren should have been a WR.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Good afternoon M my friend.
Dell
I can only imagine. So are you heading somewhere or will you just be spending some qt at home?
April 9th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
M Lonetree Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
RaiderDogg
good afternoon good to see you are in the fray.
for anyone – what good what it do for Burgess to play right end on D and go against the opposing team’s best lineman? He makes perhaps two tackles a year in the run game as it is and an LT would just negate him completely.
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M,
I think the main problem is that Burgess is such a liability against the run, and playing against the larger RT and TE, it just compounds the problem. We really need a stout DE on that side of the line to stuff the run. I’d rather see Richardson play LDE and just let Burgess play on obvious passing downs. It really would help the run-d imo.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
that`s why cable got to figure a way to get bush and dmac in the same backfield at lease a third of the time.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
M
Amen to post #202. I can always count on you…
April 9th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Dakota Says:
April 26th, 2008 at 11:16 am
One day you guys will realize that I AM ALWAYS RIGHT! Always! You all could learn from me. Listen and learn from the master.
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A few minutes later DMAC was the fourth selection by the Oakland Raiders.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
As long as the Offense isn’t this we’ll be better for it:
1st.Down.) Fargas 1yd. run, behind LG.
2nd.Down.) Fargas 1 1/2yd. run, behind RG.
3rd.Down.) Russell 8yd. pass, to Miller incomplete.
4th.Down.) ” Help us Shane, help”.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
RaiderDogg
Mexican cruise, with a few drinks along the way.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
lol Dell, thanks for posting that….
April 9th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Crappy day as far as weather goes on the beach today,..we surfed Bonny Dune…saw a shark though,…as far as Sapps comments, its sad,…the nfl network puts him on the air, makes him wear that pimp hat, and demands that he acts the fool, must speak jive, loudly, must be a dancing bear,…Sapp I was hoping had more pride then that, but people will lower themselves for money, as Sapp is doing. Sad.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Sucks the A`s game is cancelled tonight,..guess will have to watch the Giants game.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
You’re right about that Dakota, but we still need an upgrade to Richardson. Although he is better for that position that Burgess, he is still no more than a backup on this level.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Dakota Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
One day you guys will realize that I AM ALWAYS RIGHT! Always! You all could learn from me. Listen and learn from the master.
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A few minutes later ANDRE SMITH was the seventh selection by the Oakland Raiders.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Thanks Dogg.
And Dakota, if Burgess is moved to the other side then teams will just game plan to run to that side as teams did against Taylor last year in D.C. A situational pass rusher okay. I’d've rather he was traded a year ago for a 3rd rounder as he always seems to miss half the season anyway, but as it is a contract year for him perhaps he will be less hurt this year.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Why is basketball even mentioned in here.
Basketball is the stupidest sport of all sports, its even less skillful and or exciting than Curling.
It has to be the easiest sport ever invented.
Did you guys know that a 52 year old man made 5,200 free throws in a row and these NBA players are shooting less than 60% from the line
April 9th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
# ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
LMN:
And yet you cana talk for hours about a cargo ship.
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LOL, damn straight, as long as two guys acting like they know what they talk about, Ill keep on going…
April 9th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Lonetree, I was only ragging on “The Cable Guy” because Brien was calling his offense The Tom Cable offense, read, THE Tom Cable offense, like he’s Bill Walsh. I was really just ragging on Brien. But it’s cool. Hey, call The Al Davis offense whatever you guys want…
April 9th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
I myself do not like any sport except Football and only Football.
I think that if you took all the other sports and added them all up together they still would not equal Football.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
# 909RaiderLifer Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
As long as the Offense isn’t this we’ll be better for it:
1st.Down.) Fargas 1yd. run, behind LG.
2nd.Down.) Fargas 1 1/2yd. run, behind RG.
3rd.Down.) Russell 8yd. pass, to Miller incomplete.
4th.Down.) ” Help us Shane, help”.
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LOL, the story of the last many years, and probably also future years *sigh* =)
April 9th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
666, its cool you hate on hoops, but thats your opinion, when you declare its the stupidest of all time,..hardly a fact,…just because you suck at a sport doesnt mean the sport sucks.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Why is basketball even mentioned in here.
Basketball is the stupidest sport of all sports, its even less skillful and or exciting than Curling.
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Could never get on the court, huh?
April 9th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Norco, Sapp’s subject matter is what’s sad, not the fact that he’s talking about it.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Aaahhh,..my favorite dipshyt La Mary Negra is here,..hello old friend.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Whats the subject matter?…Im talking about his daily total access drivel.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
I wonder where those Sapp comments are coming from, seriously. It’s too easy just to write Sapp off as a lunatic.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Brien leaves, Norco Bob enters….
April 9th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
jeramy naclin was on a live chat today.
Joe, Ontario 01:49 PM ET
Hey J-Mac how would you feel about playing for the raider nation? Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
I would love to! I guess they have a young team on the rise, and all the right pieces. They just need a few more. I would to be a part of that going in the right direction.
Oakland is a good city too.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
# ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
LMN:
I saw post#649 on the last thread. Glad your day is better. I had a crappy one a couple of days ago.
You went in on your day off to help with the mess Huh?
Good for you.
My brother-in-law is a United fanatic (there are no other kind) and the last time I saw him he said they were going to take the quadruple including the Champions league. That was before Chelsea beat them though.
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yup, I went in there, I felt i had to… after two hours Ping-Pong by the phone my boss said I might as well go home and enjoy the holiday… FBI, USN and NATO is on it, so now its a military operation, not much we can do..
Yeah, I would have agreed with him a few days ago.. Im pissed that Agger didnt play, he wouldnt had those go through as Carragher and Skrtl did… LFC deserve to lose, when Rafa wont set the best team…
April 9th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Sapps not a lunatic, hes being paid to play the role of the loud, stupid, jive aasss ex player. Sad. Hes without pride nowadays.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Brien…Uh, I mean, Norco Bob, the subject matter would be what Sapp is talking about, henceforth, Tom Cable not being able to lead the Raiders, which is true, and sad. I thought you were educated?
April 9th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Aaahhh,..my favorite dipshyt La Mary Negra is here,..hello old friend.
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LOL …
U guys crack me TF up!
April 9th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
“jive ass”?
What is this, the ’70s, Brien? I mean Norco Bob?
April 9th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Norco Bob…
Knew we could count on you, to have a Boneheaded comment on the postponement of tonights game, between the A’s vs. Angels.
RIP, Nick Adenhart.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
LMN,
Did you ever figure out if being a puzzy was taught to you in school or is it just a genetic inclination of the people of your nation?
April 9th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Draft Rey at 7.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Alright, Brien, I mean Norco Bob, Sapp is a jive ass fool. You said it, my main man. Now get back to the disco.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Oh no! Here I got all excited that KrappyKell was staying in his hospital bed and not wasting the few remaining years of his life blogging nonsense, when I see the old goat snuck on here again. Up to your old foolish trick, huh Krappy?
Anyway, this means the message isn’t getting through Krappy’s old thick head. Well, don’t you worry my senile old bag of bones – I’m not giving up on you! We’ll get you off the cyberblog and into full medical bed rest soon enough.
And Lefty, let’s clear a few things up about that little chick Brian. First of all, he never has any good points. Ever. 2nd, he’s way more concerned about maintaing his slender feminine figure than making any relevant football points.
We’re talking Lean Cuisines for breakfast AND dinner.
So to pat that little silly buns on the shoulder over anything besides his choice in perfume is a bit of waste. Just thought I should clue you in.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
# 408RAIDER Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
LAME FIX JERRY…
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I concur, Jerry has for long time given us baking soda, and not the real deal! =)
April 9th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
The Real MaddenRaider,
the worst part about what you say about cable is cable has the raiders looking and feeling better than any coach since 1993.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
F Adenhart, I wanted to watch the game tonight, take 3 of 4,..I think it sucks they cancelled game.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
RaiderDell,
you deserve the cruise. hopefully there will be no telecommunications available to you for either work or play. just the sky, the sunshine, the salt air and none of LMN’s pirates (patent pending).
April 9th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Why is Sapp giving his opinion on anything to do with the Raiders? I used to like the guy till he non stop blasted us on the NFL network… as for Cable… he changed the way our players think and if he convinced Nnamdi to stay through the peak of his career after six losing seasons that has to say something about what the players think of him.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
what happens if you forget your password??
April 9th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Cable kept Kiffin’s moving pocket/rollout plays. Russell is not a sitting duck back there. I didn’t notice that many straight 7 step drops.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
blackdeath, could you please explain just what you mean when you say that Tom Cable has the Raiders looking and feeling better than any coach since 1993? There’s no won/loss column for feeling and looking good.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Walsh did not invent an offense but used a variant of Sid Gillmans offense as did all his students:
Al LoCasale, an Oakland Raiders executive
Al Davis, the Oakland Raiders’ owner
Chuck Noll, who coached the Pittsburgh Steelers to four Super Bowl titles
Ara Parseghian, former coach at the University of Notre Dame
Bo Schembechler, former coach at the University of Michigan
Bill Walsh, who coached the San Francisco 49ers to three Super Bowl titles
Chuck Knox, former coach of several NFL teams
Dick Vermeil, coach of several NFL teams
George Allen, coach of the Rams and Washington Redskins
All coached under Gillman.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
It’s too bad you’re gone, Brien. I was hoping to hear more about The Tom Cable, and how Bill Walsh didn’t invent an offense. Left me with a real cliff hanger there. Thanks a lot.
Bill Walsh didnt invent that offense. Paul Brown did. Ask anyone of note about this. This has been discussed and even admitted by Walsh. Tom Cable ran an explosive attacking style of offense at UCLA in 2005. They didnt dink and dunk and took many shots up the field. There werent alot of 7 step drops like al would love to do
April 9th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Brien<———-finds it hilarious MR actually think I’m Bob hahahahahahahahahaha
April 9th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
# 408RAIDER Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
what happens if you forget your password??
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then its a sign that you should smoke less herbs
April 9th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
you guys probably already saw this…
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?&entry_id=38235
April 9th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
yo brien,…wattup man.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
The Raiders have been feeling and looking good every off season for the past 6 years. They feel and look good until September. As usual.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
408…
nice “tattoo”
April 9th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
brien some things never change, madden still obsesses about you,..kind of funny.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
M
Thanks, if we do get heat from the pirates I’ll just bust out my bufffet knife and whack away at them.
Nobody is confiscating my food and drinks.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
FREE DIRTY!!!!!
BRING BACK THEC
April 9th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
MR this is common knowledge Paul Brown is the innovator of that style of play. Sad thing tho is it was too hard to run because inthose days the defense would kill people running those routes. No wonder Walsh offense made moves a little after that bitch Swann cried to judges about the Raiders. Try try try try again
April 9th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
LMN
LOL.. not 4 me its 4 Thec.. dude said he never got the conformation email after registering…
April 9th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Dirty and Thec were great in here!
April 9th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Hey, Norco Bob, I mean..Brien. It’s cool, man. I was just laughing because you were calling our offense “The Tom Cable offense”. It just sounded funny to me, because you were saying it like Cable is an offensive guru. That’s all. Didn’t mean to offend you.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Man I hope Simms is starter in denver,..0-16.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Brien, I mean, Norco Bob…do you know what obsess means? I think you’re confusing obsessing with mocking…
April 9th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Raider Dell Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
M
Thanks, if we do get heat from the pirates I’ll just bust out my bufffet knife and whack away at them.
Nobody is confiscating my food and drinks.
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Careful Rambo! The European way is to just bend over and take it in the azzz right LMN? Never resist the butt pirates right LMN?
April 9th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
By the way MR a quaff is just slang for a really oversized hairdo if you must know
April 9th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Dirty and Thec were great in here!
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So are you!
April 9th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Looks like Sapp is smoking chronic again dreaming about Al Davis looking sweet in his legendary all black leather Raiders gear and Cable beating him in a wind sprint to a picnic in his back yard. Not to mention talking draft with his imaginary friends. If you really had inside information would you trust it to Warren “Big Mouth” Sapp?
Why the heck does anyone even interview Sapp anymore? Sapp sucked when we got him. When will he realize his mouth is just washed up as his game!
April 9th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
brien that michael johnson dude, mel jr has him in 2nd round,..you want him at 7???????????????
April 9th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
LOL MR I never trolled. Can you say the same thing? Bob doesnt troll. Bob is a white guy who listens to slayer and shyt. I listent to much bay area slap
April 9th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Norco Bob…
You are one classy individual…
April 9th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
I don’t have an over sized hairdo, Brien. So don’t know why you were calling it a quaf. Do you have a quaf?
April 9th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Mel Kiper= example of a quaff
April 9th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Wow it looks like the Cable guy got Zsapped
April 9th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Mel Kiper= example of a quaff
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lmfao!
April 9th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
thec says…
Hey Bro, i registered for the site, but i never got a confirmation. I tried forgot my password
still cant get in.
….
FREE DIRTY!!!
April 9th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Norco Bob Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
brien that michael johnson dude, mel jr has him in 2nd round,..you want him at 7???????????????
I want rey at 7 but wouldnt be shocked if Al did it because he wanted him. I bet you Johnson doesnt fall out ofthe first round
April 9th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
OK, Norco Bob, I mean…Brien. Sorry. You and Norco Bob…different people. Got it. You guys are just always on around the same time. Do you guys live together?
April 9th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
brien dave and i for sure next wednesday for the day game,..tomorrow night might hit a snag…dave trippin.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
I don’t have an over sized hairdo, Brien. So don’t know why you were calling it a quaf. Do you have a quaf?
No I’m rocking the Carmelo Anthony ever since I cut out. But unlike him I dont have hella patches and shyt
April 9th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
MR TROLL
How are you Glad to see your blues taste is in the right blog.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Hahahaha….you guys asked for this registration thing
Now you are saying Norco Bob is brien? He must have multiple email accounts or IP addresses 
April 9th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
one of these days mr you might guess right, but I have yet to see it,..sucks for you bud. lol
April 9th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
# Raider Dell Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
FREE DIRTY!!!!!
BRING BACK THEC
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I 2nd that!
April 9th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
That’s good to hear, Norco Bob, i mean Brien. Carmello’s got cool hair.
Dell, why are you calling me a troll? Jerry’s current topic is Warren Sapp. I came in, talked about Sapp, and everyone else in here is talking about other stuff. They’re the trolls, not me.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
OK, Norco Bob, I mean…Brien. Sorry. You and Norco Bob…different people. Got it. You guys are just always on around the same time. Do you guys live together?
Maybe you dont read Bob’s posts enough. He lives in SAC……I live in the Bay Area. You know where Ac Transit and Bart are? Bob has a dog I dont like dogs. On at same time? LOL scroll thru the archives just over the last two months and see how many times we have been in here at the same time
April 9th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
trolls, actually madden has always had an obsession with brien,…not judging him though,..not that theres anything wrong with that…lol.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Norco Bob Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
brien dave and i for sure next wednesday for the day game,..tomorrow night might hit a snag…dave trippin.
Dave trippin bout what? Yeah I may have to go to that game. Them loud ass clam chowder sox fans will be talking much shyt but it outta be fun
April 9th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Raider Dell Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
MR TROLL
How are you Glad to see your blues taste is in the right blog.
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April 9th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Krappy, for crying out loud! Of course you don’t remember 7 step drops, your brain is almost a century old! Not to mention the heaps of Wendy’s you’ve piled in that bulging gut of yours. Don’t you know cheeseburgers do NOT rejuvinate dead brain cells?
Please Krappy, log off the cyber blog and get into your bath. With that heaping dump you just deposited into your diapers you’re going to be bathing in slightly green water, but just pay no attention and I’m sure you’ll fall asleep as usual.
But first remember to scrub behind those old Krappy ears!
April 9th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Hey have they said who blasted Adenhart yet?…got a mugshot up?
April 9th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Norco Bob Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
trolls, actually madden has always had an obsession with brien,…not judging him though,..not that theres anything wrong with that…lol.
He is obsessed with trying to get one up over me because he has failed time and time again on this blog
April 9th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
To Thec
Please register and get back to your rightful place on this blog.
We need all of the passion and insight you bring.
I’ll be waiting for your comment, soon.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Brien, Norco, Norco, Brien, whoever, I just brought it up because you guys are always online around the same time, or, one of you will pop up right after the other. Hey, you guys insist it aint so? So be it. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. But you guys are always on the same time. So, do you guys live together? Do you guys talk on the phone, and plan to show up here at the same time? Like a duo? Nothing wrong with that. You guys can get like walkie talkies, give each other reports on who’s saying what in here. Of course, you guys probably already do.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
daves alright, but trippin on weather,…he doesnt want to drive there if its possibly raining, told him its supposed to be ok,…but he wants me to drive,..so he can get drunk,..told him i will drive wednesday,..we should make it tomorrow.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Ghostride the whip
Ghostride the whip
now gas, break, dip dip
gas, break, dip dip,
Do the Tom CAble
Do the Tom Cable,
Let me see you shake your chin(s)
Let me see you shake your chins…
But this I admit is funny as phuck lol
April 9th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
lol walkie talkies,..we do text madden, especially when losers like you were using our names,…to make sure…hey madden, why do you feel the need to humiliate yourself in here?,…are things that bad for you?…
April 9th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Brien, Norco, Norco, Brien, whoever, I just brought it up because you guys are always online around the same time, or, one of you will pop up right after the other. Hey, you guys insist it aint so? So be it. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. But you guys are always on the same time. So, do you guys live together? Do you guys talk on the phone, and plan to show up here at the same time? Like a duo? Nothing wrong with that. You guys can get like walkie talkies, give each other reports on who’s saying what in here. Of course, you guys probably already do.
Maybe you were typing this nonsense and miss my post where I said pull up the archives the last two months and see your claim is as false as Nicholas Cage’s hair
April 9th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
# Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
LOL MR I never trolled. Can you say the same thing? Bob doesnt troll. Bob is a white guy who listens to slayer and shyt. I listent to much bay area slap
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4 real I always pictured Bob as a brother..
April 9th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
dang mel jr sure seems mad these days,..i think he really does hate mcshay.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Like the Tom Cable, Brien? Well, I hope the offense is as good as the dance.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Bob is my patna been knowing him for years. Great guy and is fun to tailgate with. Come through to tha tailgate this year MR and see if we are the same person
April 9th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
As Nicholas Cage’s hair…Ha ha. Alright, Brien, Norco, whatever. It’s cool. You guys are different people. Got it.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Hahahaha….you guys asked for this registration thing Now you are saying Norco Bob is brien? He must have multiple email accounts or IP addresses
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The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Dell, why are you calling me a troll? Jerry’s current topic is Warren Sapp. I came in, talked about Sapp, and everyone else in here is talking about other stuff. They’re the trolls, not me.
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THE REAL AND ONLY MADDEN RAIDER
I would never call you a troll, I was commenting to my blues friend Troll Raiders 35, never you.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
408RAIDER Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
# Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
LOL MR I never trolled. Can you say the same thing? Bob doesnt troll. Bob is a white guy who listens to slayer and shyt. I listent to much bay area slap
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4 real I always pictured Bob as a brother..
Bob is a brother! A Raider brother
April 9th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
“Bob is my patna”
Uh oh……..
I was actually going to ask…but I didn’t want to go there.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Too bad it will come to naught as ABC/BSPN television will never let be more than a slap on the wrist but the investigations into RBush and OJMayo are being consolidated to find out if any punishments for wrongdoing should be set down on USC. SoCal deserves to lose postseason activities and to forfeit games just for being the West Coast version of Bostonian snobbery.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Slayer is ok,..but Im more into Megadeth,…Pantera,…but I like Slayer enough,..seeing them later this year with Godsmack….brien we will make room for some rap this year tailgating,.but you know dave. lol
April 9th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Brien<—–notices the lack of rebuttal from MR the self admitted troll about Bill Walsh not inventing the offense first created by the great Paul Brown. I’m anxiously waiting, Go spin this like the media did everything with the 49ers inthe 80s and 90s
April 9th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
dave hates anything with rhymes…lol…stubborn dave.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
408…
where you log in, there is a button saying “forgot your password” he then has to write username or email…
if he cant remember password, username or email.. he really needs to stop smoking =)
April 9th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Norco Bob Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Slayer is ok,..but Im more into Megadeth,…Pantera,…but I like Slayer enough,..seeing them later this year with Godsmack….brien we will make room for some rap this year tailgating,.but you know dave. lol
Shyt makes no matter what music is played. As long as these punks make us feel great walking through the parking lot after winning likethey did against the Texans on my birthday I’m cool with it all!!
April 9th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Brien, I already conceded to that argument. Paul Brown invented the WCO. I actually heard that before but forgot about it. My bad.
So, how long have you and Norco been “partners”? What do people at the games think of it? Are they accepting?
April 9th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Det – Stafford
Rams – J Smith
KC – Eugene Monroe
Sea – Sanchez
Clev – Crabree
Cincy – Andre Smith
April 9th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
“Bob is my patna”
Uh oh……..
I was actually going to ask…but I didn’t want to go there.
yawn yawn yawn yawn yawn. MR ever felt a woman’s warmth? Every other man on this blog has except you
April 9th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
dang I have about 3 more weeks of the nfl network,..i just went back to comcast 3 months ago,..After 7 years with directv,..wont return though,..can live without it,..eisens a tool anyway.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Beeech,
Don’t you have any other smack? C’mon dude. What’s your obsession with me? I’m flattered but….
April 9th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Brien, the question is, have YOU ever felt a woman’s warmth? You and Bob being “partners”, and all.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Brien, I already conceded to that argument. Paul Brown invented the WCO. I actually heard that before but forgot about it. My bad.
So, how long have you and Norco been “partners”? What do people at the games think of it? Are they accepting?
“Patna” not life partners like you and Jeff Garbage-cia
April 9th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
I was at paul browns final game…playoffs,..we beat cincy 31-28.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Norco Kneel and Bob
“666, its cool you hate on hoops, but thats your opinion, when you declare its the stupidest of all time,..hardly a fact,…just because you suck at a sport doesnt mean the sport sucks”
I never played basketball or even tried or cared to its a dumb sport period. Why should I have to suck at something in order to despise it…lets take you for example Norco Kneel and Bob
Just because your girlfriend says you suck in bed doesn’t mean sex sucks don’t give up man, keep trying we will all support you in your quest to be a man.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Haven’t seen mugshots of the driver, but here are pics of the crash.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jMRPY6uTtBOfKe9_-CFd1oGwsOWAD97F6THO0
April 9th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Brien, the question is, have YOU ever felt a woman’s warmth? You and Bob being “partners”, and all.
Nice try but no one is buying it MR. This is the 35 year old guy who never smashed on a woman without a rubber if he even ever had sex in his life that is
April 9th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Brien
true dat
April 9th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
relax 666, we wont make fun of you in here because you cant play sports, no big deal dude….lol.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
I suppose that the main unanswered question this afternoon is how does a “quaff” differ from a “pompadour”?
April 9th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Sorry, Brien, it’s just that when you say that you and another guy are partners, you know how it can be misinterpreted. How often do you guys hang out? You guys are always on around the same time. Are you guys best pals? Always together?
April 9th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
666, basketball players are the best athletes by far and it isnt even close. Basketball is a simple game yes but its hard to be the best at it. It is difficult to hit a jump guard being guarded by the best athletes in the world. Sorry buddy but I cant roll wit ya on that one
April 9th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Brien, you’re just acting bizarre, now.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Damn, that car looks worse than some of the schit I watch on the Mythbusters car demolition special last night.
Hope he didn’t suffer.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
gotta run,..later brien, will hit you with a text about tomorrow night at the coliseum,..we should be there real early,..goin to Raider HQ first.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
M Lonetree Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
I suppose that the main unanswered question this afternoon is how does a “quaff” differ from a “pompadour”?
Mel Kiper is the expert ask him in one of those emails they do on espn
April 9th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
JHill,
re post 313. #7 then is Curry if I read you right. Seems implausible but fine.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
# M Lonetree Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
I suppose that the main unanswered question this afternoon is how does a “quaff” differ from a “pompadour”?
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LMAO
April 9th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
aight bob i catch ya bruh. im gettin faded on friday at rickys lol
April 9th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Norco Bob Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
“gotta run,..later brien, will hit you with a text”
How sweet….
April 9th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Dakota Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Damn, that car looks worse than some of the schit I watch on the Mythbusters car demolition special last night.
Hope he didn’t suffer.
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What was the make of the silver car? That was unbelieveable.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Brien, do you and Bob hang out a lot at Rickeys together? Are you guys one of those inseparable bromance tandems? That’s cool. I had a friend like that, when I was like 10.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Looked like a Ford Mustang to me Dell.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Sorry, Brien, it’s just that when you say that you and another guy are partners, you know how it can be misinterpreted. How often do you guys hang out? You guys are always on around the same time. Are you guys best pals? Always together?
No MR, the issue is you are doing your best to spin things in your direction so my posts will stop embarrassing you. “Patna” was used as in the same way as the hip hop songs you like to listen to. Hypocritical BS from you as usual. You are like an expert on hip hop. I remember you making sense speaking about it a few months ago. Try spinning this one
April 9th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Norco Kneel and Bob a male(Chickenhead)
So are you any good at synchronized swimming?
Is that even a real sport?
I am sure you have an opinion on that you seem to have an opinion on everything which is understandable for someone so feeble minded and lacking in life experience.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
LOL Bromance…
My X use 2 say that about me and my boyz…
April 9th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Im good @ Halo… 1, 2, & 3
April 9th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Brien, do you and Bob hang out a lot at Rickeys together? Are you guys one of those inseparable bromance tandems? That’s cool. I had a friend like that, when I was like 10.
Bromance? Wow you are so in the closet you are making up words now? Bob has never hung out at Ricky’s with me. I live right by there and the people are very cool in there. Tandems? Yawwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnn. Friends? You had friends in your life at some point? Shocker
April 9th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Brien, it’s cool. I know what you mean. “patna”, as in hip hop slang. I remember the ’90s…thank you. I know you guys aren’t gay. I believe you. I’m just asking you if you guys are one of those bromance tandems that always kicks it together. Reminds me of my best friend…when I was a kid.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
MR, your act is typical freshman crap when guys sit around the lunch table making dumb wise cracks that dont make sense. Grow up some. I know 35 is suppose to be the new 25 but not the new 15
April 9th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Brien, “bromance” is a word to describe guys always hanging out together. It’s not gay, dude. Relax. It’s just a phrase that kind of mocks adult males who hang out with each other a lot, kind of like you and Brien.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Brien the General 510
But what about this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzYh4CGAbCU
Doesn’t that make it seem easy, like a 16 year old girl (Michelle Wei) that can hit a golf ball further than you or I?
You have to admit that the athletes in the NFL are the best athletes in all of pro sports.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Ok Guys I relayed your messages 2 Thec…
April 9th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Believe me? MR, no you gotta convince us to “believe” you have actually been with a woman. Sorry MR you are a loner. That is your choice but I kick it with many types of people. I dont live in a box.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Brien, what? Typical freshman crap? Listen to you! You would know. I’m just asking you questions about you and Norco Bob. you two are always in here around the same time. When you guys leave, you talk about texting each other. You guys are really close. I’m just wondering if you guys grew up together, what the deal is. Man, you’re defensive today.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Brien, you’re just acting bizarre today, I’m sorry. I don’t know what your deal is.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
beeecham Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Krappy, for crying out loud!
beeecham, how come you call kewlquail krappy?
April 9th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
hey warren BEDNARIK sapp..answer just one question–what exactly did you lead the Raiders to??? so what qualifies you to comment on the leadership of the Raiders??????SHUT YOU MASSIVE PIEHOLE!!!!!the more youtalk the dumber you get
April 9th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
SilverNBlack666 Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Brien the General 510
But what about this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzYh4CGAbCU
Doesn’t that make it seem easy, like a 16 year old girl (Michelle Wei) that can hit a golf ball further than you or I?
You have to admit that the athletes in the NFL are the best athletes in all of pro sports.
No way when you got fat ass olinemen and dlineman all over the league. We are talking 6′5 to 7′0 ft tall guys who are in superior condition….more than football players. Hell alot of NBA players are bigger than football players dammit. Sorry but I was a hooper and I dont play anymore but us hoopers were better athletes than the football players. Always have been
April 9th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
The inanity proceeds, yet at a much more tolerable rate than B.R. (Before Registration). I think it was Triple Six who wrote that the commentary hits would diminish A.R. but it does not seem to be the case. Good on yer folks for the continued banter.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Sapp never did anything for the Raiders, except run his mouth off w/nothing but negativity. Never liked him when he was a Buc and never liked him when he was a Raider.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Hi Oakglenn.
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April 9th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Oakglenn, palika,
Who signed Warren Sapp? At the tail end of his career when everyone else knew he was no good? He didn’t sign himself to the team, I can tell you that much.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Krappy, the word “smack” is a newer term familiar to those much younger than you. I know you’re trying to be the cool old man by using it, but it just doesn’t sound right.
Stick to more familiar terms to your generation like “bee’s knees”, “chicago lightning” and “whatta dame”. The latter would’ve been used to describe your 60 year old care taker.
Now please log off the internet (just press the funny red button) before you get disoriented and crap your pants.
Hey Brian – have fun getting faded, I had no idea Ricky’s was a queer hangout. Man, I bet you can really put down those Peach Daquiries.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Brien
When you get a moment please tell me who will be the better center this year, Salate or Wade.
I will take my answer off the air, thanks.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Brien, what? Typical freshman crap? Listen to you! You would know. I’m just asking you questions about you and Norco Bob. you two are always in here around the same time. When you guys leave, you talk about texting each other. You guys are really close. I’m just wondering if you guys grew up together, what the deal is. Man, you’re defensive today.
Nice try MR. That crap works on others but you cant win with that over here. You say we are always in here at the same time but yet the archives will show a much different story. I keep saying that but you ignore it. Maybe you are just a plain idiot. Known Bob for years from going to Raider games. See you arent a Raider. Just a Raider hater. Many Raider people got to be great friends through the games. This is nada new. People have been doing this forever in sports
April 9th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
You guys ask Brien questions about the team? How does he know? Does he work in Alameda? Is that how he and Norco Bob know each other? It’s like Brien has his own radio show in here. They really look up to you, Brien.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
408RAIDER Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Ok Guys I relayed your messages 2 Thec
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Koolness, lets hope he figures it out… it not like it takes a rocket scientist… so lets hope it works out for him…
April 9th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Sapp is a Joke… Kind of hard to believe he got a TV gig. I remember last year he was bashing Mr. Davis on showtime, talking about how he is always calling down to the sidelines during the game. Now he is praising him?
April 9th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Raider Dell Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Brien
When you get a moment please tell me who will be the better center this year, Salate or Wade.
I will take my answer off the air, thanks.
Neither. One is older and stronger but isnt great and the other is young and had issues with big 3-4 NTs like the ones we play this season. I’m not happy about the center position at all.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Norco Bob, I mean Brien, did you and Brien, I mean Norco Bob, meet working for the Raiders, or something?
April 9th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Volta Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Sapp is a Joke… Kind of hard to believe he got a TV gig. I remember last year he was bashing Mr. Davis on showtime, talking about how he is always calling down to the sidelines during the game. Now he is praising him?
Sapp is and always will be an idiot
April 9th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Raider Dell… Dakota…
Mitsibichi(sp?) Eclipse.
Car was driven by his girlfriend, who was also killed.
Dude that hit them, ran a red light. Then fled the scene on foot. Was found a 1/2 mile from the accident sight, walking on a freeway. Dude was driving on a suspended license for DUI. He is suspected of being DUI, in this case, also.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Brien, I have a question for you. When did you and Norco Bob meet? Did people in school start rumors about you guys for always being around each other? I’ll take your answer off the air.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Why do I call him Krappy? Have you ever seen his adult diapers after he gets through with them?!?
April 9th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
You guys ask Brien questions about the team? How does he know? Does he work in Alameda? Is that how he and Norco Bob know each other? It’s like Brien has his own radio show in here. They really look up to you, Brien.
I’m flattered people would look up to me but BHP and Oakglenn deserve that title. Thanks for the compliment though
April 9th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Hey guys….wanna see a picture of my ex
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April 9th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
fuk Sapp
http://citizenchris.typepad.com/citizenchris/images/2008/01/11/warrensapp.jpg
April 9th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Brien, I have a question for you. When did you and Norco Bob meet? Did people in school start rumors about you guys for always being around each other? I’ll take your answer off the air.
Rumors? This isnt Club Nouveau MR.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
…but he will probably be right about Cable.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
I had a friend who ditched his car at a DUI checkpoint once. Long time ago. Early ’90s. He went back the next day and his car was just sitting there, by itself. He started it up and left. Guess there’s really nothing the police can do about that. There’s no law against parking on the sidewalk at a DUI checkpoint. You can just pretend you were going there all along. That’s why they probably try to set them up where there’s no businesses or residents on the same stretch of road. I dunno. Anyhow, hearing about that dude that killed the Angels pitcher being caught walking on the freeway made me think of that.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Mitsubishi Eclipse huh? I can see it now…plus it said it right in the article, lol.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
LMN..
ur right… I think dude needed time to cool off after the whole keep kiffen fire Al thing..
April 9th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
MR, maybe you dont understand that Raider people are brought together by their passion for watching this franchise and everything that happens with it. You couldn’t possibly understand that because your entire mission is to bash Al Davis and the Raiders at every single corner. Now this mess about bob and I being friends is a pathetic attempt by you due to all the beat downs I have given you over the last year. You even went so far as to troll as me on a number of ocassions
April 9th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Dakota
Just give the coach a season before you start the doom and gloom comments, give the guy a chance.
You know if it doesn’t work out he’ll be fired, just relax a bit.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
rowdy soccer fans…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U4ymFataug&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div
April 9th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Ha! Club Nouveau…rumors. Good one, Bob, I mean Brien. You know, they’re like one of the few music group to come out of Sac and I don’t even know what part of Sac they’re from. Nobody does. Some people say the heights, some say OP. I know the rock band Tesla went to Bella Vista, which is in Fair Oaks. I don’t know where Cake is from. Think Roseville or something. And everyone knows X Raided, C Bo and Brutha Lynch are from Gardens.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Soccer fans are nuts. Those riots at the games are ridiculous. I guess us Americans arent the only crazy folks
April 9th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Dell,
I have pretty much held my tongue about Cable since he was hired…but look out if the first 15 plays are scripted with Fargas when we open against the Chargers.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Ha! Club Nouveau…rumors. Good one, Bob, I mean Brien. You know, they’re like one of the few music group to come out of Sac and I don’t even know what part of Sac they’re from. Nobody does. Some people say the heights, some say OP. I know the rock band Tesla went to Bella Vista, which is in Fair Oaks. I don’t know where Cake is from. Think Roseville or something. And everyone knows X Raided, C Bo and Brutha Lynch are from Gardens.
I know Jay King and know his son Jay King Jr. Their musical engineer who they won awards with James L Richard I know as well. Great people James L Richard also is the epitome of a Raider and no one who comes on here could even deal with that guy at all
April 9th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Dakota Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Dell,
I have pretty much held my tongue about Cable since he was hired…but look out if the first 15 plays are scripted with Fargas when we open against the Chargers.
Gawd please dont say that
April 9th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Anyhow it is still happy hour and I damn sure wanna have a seat before all the people from work get come in a take the seats after a long c*cksucker ass day in corporate America
April 9th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Dakota Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Dell,
I have pretty much held my tongue about Cable since he was hired…but look out if the first 15 plays are scripted with Fargas when we open against the Chargers.
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I will be there in the Coliseum and if that does happen I promise I will boo for you and others who have made some strong statements about Fargas.
Let’s just see what happens, preseason will tell us what direction were going.(player in starting lineup)
April 9th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Brien, your view on Raider fans is a good description of yourself. Some Raider fans drink the kool aid, others are sick of Al Davis and want to see the team win. Most fans I know are like me. So stop playing that you’re a better fan card. It’s tired.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
I hope Mcfadden can stay healthy and we use Bush more and fargas less like alot less…
April 9th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Take care all. Dakota stop being a leftist wimp huh? LOL and MR good try today. I give you credit you were funny but again just not good enough to defeat the great one. Goo show. See ya
April 9th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
I am getting pissed just thinking about Fargas getting more than 2 carries a game….
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
April 9th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Brien<——–on scholarship about to finish my B.S. in koolaidology with honors, I’m debating if I should get my masters
April 9th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Now PFT has the Brown looking at Sanchez.
I guess it’s not too much of a stretch since Quinn’s contract was all based on him playing. Wouldn’t be too expensive to trade him or have him sit on the bench. I think we all know Anderson is not the guy.
Dam It! Look like we won’t get a chance to deal the #7 to the highest Sanchez bidder. But we do have a really good chance at one of the OTs or Curry. We just need for Crabtree and a RB to go ahead of us too, and we’re set.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Alright, Brien. Go catch up with Norco Bob.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Brien<———–not a fan
April 9th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
I am getting pissed just thinking about Fargas getting more than 2 carries a game….
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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LOL!
Like I said, we all know it’s true.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Now watch Norco Bob pop up, right after Brien leaves…
April 9th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
408…
that seemed staged, not fake but staged… an evidence that ‘roids is bad for your mood..
btw, it was not soccer fans…
April 9th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Brien, I never understood what you mean when you say you’re not a “fan”. Why are you ashamed of the “fan” label? Because, you are certainly a fan, a kool aid drinking fanatic, at that.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
JHILL
This is pure tom foolery, the art of deception.The Browns want some team to offer them draft choices for their selection.
Quinn would have been traded by now if anybody wanted him, don’t believe the hype.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Beeech,
You couldn’t carry my jock. I’ll out run you, out fight you, out drink you, out fuk you.
Beech, you ought to be blowin my assz, trying to be my mfkin friend.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Jesus, Kell. Take it easy.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Letting Fargas run the ball is like letting Luke Walton shoot threes. WTF is the point? Are you trying to lose?
April 9th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Dell,
I believe that neither Quinn or Anderson are Mangini’s choice for QB. With that said, it is not hard to believe that they would consider Sanchez or Stafford. Problem for them, and us, is neither will be available when they pick.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
KoolKell
What just happened here, who are you yelling at?
April 9th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
408..
this is soccer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GBWwOwpv0Q
all rooting for Man U =) LOL
April 9th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Jhill, stop trying to figure out ways for Curry to drop to #7….he will be gone by pick #3…you know I am right on this.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
RaiderDell,
thanks for the words of reason to our friend Dakota to chill out for a while before playing the doom and gloom card. Exactly as I wished to say. He has only known the Raiders of recent vintage.
Anyhoo, as the National Football League is to adopt Maersk shipping policies as their guidelines, the proximate Super Bowl will be a contest between the Oakland Raiders and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Not engaging the pirates will lead to undefeated records for both teams and then the swashbuckling pair will fight it out in February without the influences of Chucky or whacked out centers. Result, JaMarcus Russell 31, Luke McCown 3.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
lol go Kell go!
April 9th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Our C position is just fine. Satele played with a bad shoulder last year. Did he have any problem with those NTs his rookie year?
April 9th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
408..
do you know the childrens book “where is Waldo”
who is waldo here? LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP5J9qD73rQ
April 9th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
KrappyKell, KrappyKell, Krappykell, Cmon dude, is that all you got?
Beech, I’ll jump up in your pusy like it’s a storm.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
I am starting to warm up to this idea!
With Crabtree, Chaz Schilens, Johnnie Lee Higgins, and Arman Shields we feel we have the best young WR corps in the NFL, to follow our best young RB tandem. We are going to have no problem putting up points for a very very long time.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
jhill Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Dell,
I believe that neither Quinn or Anderson are Mangini’s choice for QB. With that said, it is not hard to believe that they would consider Sanchez or Stafford. Problem for them, and us, is neither will be available when they pick.
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You have some strong opinions and make sense, but my response is why would you wait until the day of the draft to trade Quinn ot Andersen.
The logical thing to do is find a trade partner and receive some additional picks and then you have more picks to dangle the to the teams above you, waiting for Sanchez to fall at number 5 is just bad planning.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Jhill, stop trying to figure out ways for Curry to drop to #7….he will be gone by pick #3…you know I am right on this.
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LOL !!!!!!!!!!!
Ahhhhhh …. Too funny!
And Luke is right on the bench were he belongs! PJ just needs to stop subbing 4 or 5 cats at a time. Should probably only go 8 deep.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
M Lonetree Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
RaiderDell,
thanks for the words of reason to our friend Dakota to chill out for a while before playing the doom and gloom card. Exactly as I wished to say. He has only known the Raiders of recent vintage.
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Doom and gloom? All I said is that Sapp will probably be right about Cable, lol.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Dell,
We have a better chance of getting something for Walter than the Browns do of getting something for either Anderson or Quinn, LOL!
The Browns are fugged at the QB position.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Sapp just knows how to “Sapp” the life right out of you. Hes so effin negative, his name might as well be MaddenRaider. In fact, maybe Sapp IS MaddenRaider? The guy has lost any respect I had for him. While great with the Buccaneers, they cut him when he lost his prime and he went where the money was and called it a career. He was such a baby, he couldn’t let Rob Ryan run his 3-4 Defense because Sapp was exposed as a one skill player. He can go to hell along with the Bucs.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Dakota Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Raider Dell Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
M
Thanks, if we do get heat from the pirates I’ll just bust out my bufffet knife and whack away at them.
Nobody is confiscating my food and drinks.
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Careful Rambo! The European way is to just bend over and take it in the azzz right LMN? Never resist the butt pirates right LMN?
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dakota
I will never be considered Rambo, yes he has Quef and I do not.
I will never sit around and whine and have pirates determine my life unless I take action to prevent that from happening.
I will not let anybody tell me what to do, that’s what I was taught. A puzzy I am not.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
KrappyKell, KrappyKell, Krappykell, Cmon dude, is that all you got?
Beech, I’ll jump up in your pusy like it’s a storm.
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What the he!! does this mean? Are you from the south?
April 9th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Dakota,
apparently it sounded to both Dell and I that there was resignation to the same ol’ same ol’ in your few written words. Not necessarily the case.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
hear hear Dell.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
408…
that seemed staged, not fake but staged… an evidence that ‘roids is bad for your mood..
btw, it was not soccer fans…
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sure it was the have organized fights before away from the games I saw it on the discovery channel.. Its some wacked out soccer fan thing they do over there in europe
April 9th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
M Lonetree Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Dakota,
apparently it sounded to both Dell and I that there was resignation to the same ol’ same ol’ in your few written words. Not necessarily the case.
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Just hoping for the best and preparing for the worst…
April 9th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Dakota
You normally leave by now, what’s up no dinner tonight.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
the center position is a question mark.miami feels sampson satele did not block the nt in the 3-4 well last year.i don`t care how much film the raiders watch it does not equal what miami knows about him.the raiders will play the 3-4 10 times this year,so that is a problem.also satele is rehabing a shoulder right now and can not do any upperbody lifting.so he is not getting any stronger.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Beech, I’ll jump up in your pusy like it’s a storm.
WHAT are you sayin? That is odd man! Ya need to get out more! Keep it to RAIDER FOOTBALL!!!
April 9th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Krappy, you are getting very excited and are in serious danger of laying a larger than normal dump in your pants. Please, for the sake of your trousers, calm down!
Now we know you’ve got spunk, you old goat, but let’s be realistic here. You routinely fall asleep with your head in the microwave and don’t have the strength to turn the shower on by yourself.
How are you possible going to compete in tests of strength with the all powerful Beeecham? I’d even bet against you in buffalo wing eating contest with Dakota.
But now that you’ve worn yourself out by pressing so many computer keys, maybe you’ll pass out sooner and get off this computer blog.
C’mon Krappy – you can do it!!
April 9th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
how the ufck did I miss going 408???
April 9th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
KK. 413, LMAO.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
# KoolKell Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Beeech,
You couldn’t carry my jock. I’ll out run you, out fight you, out drink you, out fuk you.
Beech, you ought to be blowin my assz, trying to be my mfkin friend.
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hELL YEAH THATS HOW YA DIS SOME1…
April 9th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Raider Dell Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Dakota
You normally leave by now, what’s up no dinner tonight.
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On my own tonight…but I better roll…the Kum and Go might sell out of Chuckwagon sandwiches.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
408,
Dude, LMN war right. Put the pipe down, and step away from the weed.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Dakota Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Raider Dell Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Dakota
You normally leave by now, what’s up no dinner tonight.
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On my own tonight…but I better roll…the Kum and Go might sell out of Chuckwagon sandwiches.
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Be careful out there, I’m out of here also.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
what you talkin O????
April 9th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
408…
they were not soccer fans, their chanting was not soccer chants, in the one you posted, it was a staged turf war, had nothing to do with soccer..
but yeah, in britain staged fights happen often..
here in DK we have them twice or four times a year.. In sweden more than us.. every second year there are 2 swedish fan factions with their danish support..
totally ridiculous, that said, i never been attacked, and they always let us “normal” fans pass trhough, even if they are from “the other side”…
April 9th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
I would honestly pay for us all to get together, park our cars to form a circle with our head lights on and watch KoolKell and Beeecham duke it out. They could have 4 challenges. They could race. They could fight each other and then they could out drink each other. I’m still debating the out fuking each other part. There would have to be some very hot women for that to work. In fact, we could invite alot of hot women to that event in order for everyone to get lucky after such a challenge. Haha.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
408..
this is a russian fight between St petersburg and one of the moscow clubs..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-j12PIhKOA
April 9th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
408..
did you see the waldo post? LOL
April 9th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
LMN..
yeah thats what the program I watched said.. I thought it was cool that the knuckle heads had the Respect to take it away from the stadium and the innocent bystanders… And have a nice friendly brawl with no weapons …
April 9th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
LMN.. yeah I thought waldo was by the street light..
April 9th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
btw…
the captain is in good shape, he has received food and new batteries…
April 9th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
You’re crazy 24. lol
April 9th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
# 408RAIDER Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
LMN..
yeah thats what the program I watched said.. I thought it was cool that the knuckle heads had the Respect to take it away from the stadium and the innocent bystanders… And have a nice friendly brawl with no weapons …
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yeah weapons is a no-no
April 9th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Hey 24, I loved the Outsiders as much as you did. But the night would start and end very poorly for poor Krappy and we’d all go home dissapointed.
First off, how the heck is the old dog going to race with 6 pounds of fresh dump in his shorts?
As for pugilism, he can’t even see straight and will end up punching poor Charged Down in the kisser.
I’m all for the hot women – excuse me, “very” hot women – but I seriously doubt Brian will accept your invitation after his long night out at Ricky’s.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
I’ve seen this 1 b4
April 9th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
24..
then they had to outdrink as first challenge, or else its no fun…
April 9th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Haha.
April 9th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
The Raiders are looking to draft a safety. They released Gibril, let baker go, and they are attending Ss pro days.
April 9th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
LMN – Yeah…I was trying to get the right order down. It would be more funny watching them race and fight after drinking but in order to get the best results, they’d have to drink after those events. Haha.
April 9th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
dammit, im hungry :/
April 9th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
The Raiders will draft a safety next year. Taylor Mays.
April 9th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
LMN – Just walk away from the Computer and towards the fridge.
April 9th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
24..
yeah, thats an option, but i could use something fried =) LOL im a skinny guy so i need my fat =)
btw its 0200 here =)
April 9th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
I warned you guys that AD might be jonesing for a DB in the first round as it has been a couple of years…
peace out
April 9th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
lmn
0200..
you need a beer and a sandwich…
April 9th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Later M….
April 9th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
O
why do you think I need 2 eback away from the happy smoke…
April 9th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
# 408RAIDER Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
O
why do you think I need 2 eback away from the happy smoke…
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isnt it obvious? you missed 408 =) LOL
April 9th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Im really thinking about to walk up to McD…
April 9th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
I’m guessing 408 means that 408RAIDER smokes at 4:08? Sorry for being out of the loop on this one, I just wanted to confirm.
April 9th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
LMN you guys dont got BK???
April 9th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
LMN probably has McDonalds if anything.
April 9th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Oh…and then I see the message…sorry.
April 9th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
24
Na… @ comment # 408… I usually post a bunch of 408’s..
April 9th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Exactly LMN. LMAO 408.
April 9th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
You are too much 408. You missed 408, your asking about passwords, and now you ask why you should stop bro? Really!! LMAO
April 9th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
I see. Well…I live in the 408 as you know but I’d love to get the hell out of here so I don’t exactly represent. Sorry.
April 9th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
408…
yeah we have BK, but thats almost a mile, and I dont lke their fries =)
I only eat McFeast or Nuggets at McD =)
McFeast is the only burger they got with tomato, and that is obligatory in a burger IMO…
I assume yours McDs has way more to choose from…
man this talk about burgers… *drool*
April 9th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
O..
keep reading… I was asking about the password 4 some1 else.. Obviously if I forgot my password I wouldnt be posting a comment… but its whatever brethren…
April 9th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
BK’s fries do suck but the burgers rock IMO… try onion rings thats what I get…
April 9th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
L’il Beech
You seem overly concerned with my bowel movements, no? What up with that?
April 9th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
I know you were asking for Thec, I’m just playing 408. Bro I asked you about thec, but you never answered me. Is he still in SD?
April 9th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
L’il Beech
Are you the same turd who stalked me before registration?
Wassa matter, did I sting you a few times too many?
April 9th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
408..
its all fun, its just that you asked how you missed 408.. and then the answer was obvious =)
April 9th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
24 #438 ” im in for that”
April 9th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
I heard Burger King is one of the few places that microwaves alot of their food. I’m not saying I can tell the difference if they do but I wonder.
April 9th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
=)
April 9th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
fuk it, im going for an expedition… man my mom would be pissed if she knew that 0230 went to McD..
LOL – take care, see ya =)
April 9th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
O
I didnt see your Questin bro.yeah I think he’s still in Sd… we email sometimes.. so I’ll let em know you asked about him.. Im tryin to get him back in here…
April 9th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
408 – I can’t freakin remember where I got that cheerleader video. I don’t remember which site but I’m guessing youtube. I don’t think youtube has that kind of thing but I just don’t remember. Great video though. Damn!
April 9th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
I love their onion rings.
April 9th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
later LMN…
April 9th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
24
not utube it had a blue backround..
April 9th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
LMN……… god rest her soul
April 9th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Effin Rich Aurilia. That guy freakin sucks.
April 9th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
408,
I smoke a lot too. Notice I always forget players names. I have some nice Gran Daddy Purp, and Snow Cap. I like snow cap and fresh GDP. I love CA.
April 9th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
408 – I found another good video. You’re gonna have to give me a made up email in order for me to send you the url. Don’t want to risk it under registration. Haha.
April 9th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
For what it’s worth (not much) here’s who Mel Kiper predicts the Raiders will take in Rounds 1-4.
Oakland Raiders
No.7: Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
No. 40: Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma
No. 71: Rashad Johnson, S, Alabama
No. 126: Gerald Cadogan, OT, Penn St.
I could definitely live with that. I’ve been touting Maclin and Loadholt for a while. Johnson is a good ball player too. Don’t know anything about Cadogan, but I doubt they would draft two more OTs after signing several this off-season.
April 9th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
O
GDP is my favorite….
24
the408RAIDER@yahoo.com
April 9th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Im out nation gotta feed my daughter…
April 9th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Later 408.
April 9th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
408 – The info has been sent.
April 9th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
My SF Giants are kickin some major butt. They have a much better offense this year. Leading 7-1.
April 9th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Sapp is still the same country-dumb loudmouth idiot that he always was. Why would anyone put a microphone in front of his goat mouth?
April 9th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
I am pretty certain that Jason Smith, Mathew Stafford, Eugene Monroe, and Arron Curry will all be gone before The Raiders pick. That will take care of four of the six teams picking ahead of them. That mean that either Brian Orakpo, Michael Crabtree, or BJ Raji will still be on the board. I say pick the one that is still there, or if two of them are there then choose between them.
I think Warren Sapp says things just for the sake of being outrages. It’s a pretty good gig he’s got though, getting paid just to run his mouth.
April 9th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
I think this draft is going to surprise alot of people. This was is very hard to predict.
April 9th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
This “one” is very hard to predict I mean.
April 9th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Just Win Baby
It’s too easy to just say Sapp is an idiot. He’s no idiot, he may like to talk, but he’s a future Hall of Famer.
What the heck was he getting at with that Cable statement?
April 9th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Chris in NY
Gerald Cadogan is a nice prospect.
He’s kind of lost among all the big names but he was very productive as the LT for Penn State over the last couple of years and his skills seem to translate well into the NFL.
He’s real smart (Academic All-Big Ten), athletic (5.12 Forty) and has really long arms (35 3/4 Inches).
I’d love to take Cadogan in the 3rd or 4th round.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
I forgot to mention Cadogan has excellent size as well: he’s 6-5 1/2, 310 pounds and, for what it’s worth, he was born in Oakland.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
I don’t think Sapp is stupid. I think he just says things that are outrages because if he starts being boring then people will stop paying him to talk. I guess that makes him pretty clever.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Watching the Tampa Game, Again.
Russell doesn’t look fat to me.
Marley you must watch a lot of College Football, No? You’re a bettor to, right?
April 9th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
If Sapp had said Cable was the second coming of John Madden you wouldnt be crying about would you now. Dont you ever get tired of whining about the media’s supposed “bias” towards the Raiders?
April 9th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Old man
Yeah, I watch as much as I can, unfortunately, that’s not as much as I’d like anymore…stupid real life.
And yeah, I love to gamble, yes sir.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Nice little hard count by Russell on 3rd & 4.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Yeah, I thought so. Never seen anybody chew over the draft so much, jeez.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Since when is Warren Sapp a expert on the Oakland Raiders all he did was collect a check and play out the remainder of his career . Thanks for your 2 cents Warren but stick to dancing with the stars.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Got a problem old man?.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Cable wants the effing job I don’t see anyone else knocking down ALs door to coach here. I’m looking forward to this season more than any in the past 6 years.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
loadholt can only play rt tackle.maclin is the way to go if you don`t go b.j.raji.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
who cares what sapp thinks.i still say cable has the team looking and feeling better than any raider team since 2003.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
loadholt can only play rt tackle.maclin is the way to go if you don`t go b.j.raji.
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what? Maclin ? your kidding right ? no one in this draft is worth selecting in the top ten . Trade down and get some talent for 1/3 of the price and 2 for one.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
This draft is weak at the top . Don’t overpay for what is available in the later rounds.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
no one?
April 9th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
No one IMO
April 9th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
maclin? crabtree? curry?those guys are`nt top 10?if so why not?
April 9th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Watching the Tampa Game
Tampa 10plays 80 yd TD, with 10 yd run and 12 yd run by Cadillac.
The D Tackles are getting turned, and shut-off.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Curry is not a pass rusher> Maclin Is a JLH clone and Crabtree played in a gimmick offense
April 9th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Oh great. Not only is KrappyKell a geriatric old goat who’s addicted to football cyberblogs, but he’s got a gambling problem as well! My job here is going to be more difficult than I thought.
Alright Krappy, listen up you sagging cow – turn off the computer, get into your bath, eat your damn oatmeal and NO betting on the NBA. Or Scottish league football, for that matter.
Geez, just when you think you’re making some progress, ol Krappy pulls one out of his crusty old hat!
April 9th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
One way to shut Sapp up… WIN!
As long as the Raiders lose more than they win the media will continue to talk trash.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
derrick brooks and his career 13.5 sacks
Career Stats more
Season Team Tackles Interceptions Fumbles
G GS Total Solo Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int Yds Avg Lng TDs FUM Lost
2008 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 16 73 58 15 0.0 — 7 1 -2 -2.0 -2 0 — –
2007 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 16 109 84 25 0.0 — 1 — – 0.0 — – — –
2006 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 16 121 96 25 0.0 0 2 3 51 17.0 21T 1 — –
2005 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 16 125 93 32 3.0 — 10 1 0 0.0 0 0 — –
2004 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 16 137 109 28 3.0 — 3 1 3 3.0 3 0 — –
2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 16 101 71 30 1.0 0 7 2 56 28.0 44T 1 — –
2002 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 16 117 87 30 1.0 0 6 5 218 43.6 97T 3 — –
2001 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 16 112 79 33 0.0 — 5 3 65 21.7 53 0 — –
2000 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 16 — – — 1.0 0 0 1 34 34.0 34T 1 — –
1999 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 16 — – — 2.0 — 0 4 61 15.2 38 0 — –
1998 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 16 — – — 0.0 — 0 1 25 25.0 25 0 — –
1997 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 16 — – — 1.5 — 0 2 13 6.5 13 0 1 0
1996 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 16 — – — 0.0 — 0 1 6 6.0 6 0 — –
1995 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 13 — – — 1.0 — 0 — – 0.0 — – — –
TOTAL 895 677 218 13.5 0 41 25 530 — 97 6 1 0
April 9th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
THAts why they put us on primetime because we lose?
April 9th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Beeecham, are you jealous of KoolKell? Is that why you are so antagonistic towards him? Perhaps it is that you love the man but have had your advances spurned by him. You love KoolKell but can’t have him. You need to move on Beeecham. I’m sure there are plenty of other semi-retarded homosexuals out there who you can share your life with.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Maclin is a little bigger and a little stronger the JLH, but if what you mean by him being a JLH clone is that he has JLH’s quickness and elusiveness then I am not sure that it is a bad thing. The important thing is if he can learn to run proper routs quicker than JLH has caught on, although Higgins has made good progress finally in his third year.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Russell threw that Red Zone TD pass to Schillens while he was being hit.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
jhl-5`11 185
1468 all-purpose yards
49-837 9 tds-rec
8-13-0 td`s-rushing
18-170-punt return
20-448 kick return
jeramy maclin-6`0 200
2833-all purpose yards
102-1260-13 td`s-rec
51-375-4 td`s
can`t find punt and kick return just 5 td`s combined
they both play in spreed offense just like crabtree.
only in the bay area is he called a jlh clone his stats dwarf jlh.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Hey alright! It’s my new little bitch Baby Albert! I was getting a little weary of reprimanding Krappy, so it’s an early weekend treat that you came along for a little parenting.
Btw, fellow bloggers – Baby Albert comes to this blog to seek fashion advice. Because he’s still in high school, he hasn’t learned the finer points of dressing himself. So if you want to give him some advice on what to wear and what not to wear to Raider games, he’ll listen.
Anyway Baby, we need to get those applications ready for your foray into manhood (or at least semi-manhood) – community college!
April 9th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
michael crabtree-6`1 215
97-1165-19 td`s
glad your not judging talent.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Higgins is a BEAST, and if we didn’t have him, then I would be all for drafting Maclin, but we do have him. Why not add a strong, tacle breaking, sure handed posession receiver in Crabtree to complament the talents of Schilens and JLH instead of adding a player with the same skillset as someone you already have in place? Schilens is tall and pretty damn fast in the open field, perfect for catching fades in the endzone, JLH is very fast and elusive as hell, perfect for the slot because he has the ability to take a short, to intermediate route the distance every time he touches the ball, now, what’s missing from the receiving corps? Another very fast, but small, elusive player, or a strong posession reciever who can break tackles and find the endzone? I say we draft Crabtree without thinking twice about it if he is available. If he is not available then I think we shouldtake Raji, one of them should be there.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
i guess i should have added that maclin scored a 25 on his wonderlic test.best of any wr.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Voldemort,
because crabtree most likely will be gone and maclin is the second best wr in the draft.let`s not forget he`s only played two years and has 80 and 102 rec.every scouting report says he has very goog hands.if crabtree all of a sudden ran a 4.4 do you not draft him because he is now a fast wr.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Beeecham, predictable response from a predictable mind. I guess your brain is to small to come up with anything wittier.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
this is from nfl.com i think they no more than the bay area media.let`s by pass him for a wr that`s not as good.
Positives: Tight-skinned athlete. Good overall musculature. Explosive straight-line speed and quickness out of his breaks. Agile. Can make defenders miss in tight quarters. Natural playmaker who is a threat to score – from any distance – on every snap. Versatile athlete who can make plays in the running, receiving or return games. Natural pass catcher. Good body control to contort in space and make the spectacular reception. High-points passes and is an explosive leaper. High effort player. Courageous over the middle. Blocks downfield. Showed mental toughness in returning after a horrific knee injury in 2006.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
If we get Maclin I will be happy. I will also be happy if we get Curry, Maualuga, either Smith, Crabtree, Raji, Monroe, or Orakpo. Missfortunitely we only get to draft on of them.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Blackdeath
No, I bet Crabtree could run close to a 4.4 when healthy, but 40 times are overrated anyway. That’s not the point anyway, the faster Crabtree is, the better. If he somehow became a small framed fragile reciever, aka Maclin,then I wouldn’t draft him. Speed has nothing to do with it. We need a stronger reciever than Maclin, not a slower one.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
i say trade the 7 pick for boldin
April 9th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
i`ll be happy crabtree,maclin,curry,j.smith,monroe,raji.
maualuga,a.smith,orakpo or alex mack if the raiders trade back.i just kills me when people say maclin is a jlh clone.only in the bay area is that said.i could see the rams now don`t draft that wr he`s a bruce clone we don`t need holt.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
of course sapp likes al davis al gave him alot of money for nothing the last days of his career
April 9th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Is Boldin even on the trading block? I thought the Cards were going to keep him weather he cries about it or not.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
maclin weighs 200 pounds and never missed a game in two years with all the running,punt returning and kick off,handling the ball way more than crabtree.how is that fragile?
April 9th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
maclin is also 20 years old the youngest player in the draft.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Don’t worry, Baby Albert. We’ll get you into a reputable place of education sometime soon. And that’ll lead to a sweet gig at AM/PM with all kinds of chances at advancing to upper management.
Alright, that’s enough for you to ponder for a day or so. Don’t want to overload the 18 year old mind. Very confusing for you, huh my little bitch? But there will be plenty more lessons to come, I promise.
Now did Krappy get to bed or is he still squirting poop into his well soiled drawers? Krappy, if you’re out there and you need help, please let us all know. Any one of us – Dakota and his Dorito crusted fingers included – can dial 911 for you, you old fart.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
I’m beginning to feel the Raiders might go WR. I think they’re pretty set. Either a DT or WR.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Tell steve smith speed dosen’t mean anything 5′9 180 and can take it to the house so maclin is a giant compared to him.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
It’s a great night to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
Warren Sapp doesn’t just change his opinion, someone changes it for him. That little old man he was making fun of a few months ago must’ve had a chat with him, and Warren suddenly changed his tune.
What happened to Al’s alleged phone calls to the sideline during games, and the other non-verifiable (see fabricated) information BS artists like Sapp come up with? Oh, that’s right — since they didn’t really happen, he needs to move on to other flammable topics (even if he has to create it) just to stay in a job.
Now Sapp has his “people” inside the war room in Alameda — like a real journalist might have sources? What a crock.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Of many, the Raiders two biggest needs are WR and MLB.
No matter what Crabtree’s incredible upside might be, he’s got a bum wheel that may never heal properly. Even if it does, it may take a year or so before it’s near 100%.
NO MORE ALREADY-WOUNDED WR’s COMING THROUGH THE DOOR!!
There are about a half-dozen WR’s coming out this year who, at least on video and paper, are as ready for NFL success as Crabtree is. There are a few dozen more with the potential to make rosters, and who knows where the next surprise WR star will come from? One or two future star WR’s will even come undrafted.
TRADE DOWN — Gather a few picks, save a boatload of money, and go get UNC WR HAKEEM NICKS.
(Of course, Anquan Boldin could change my mind!)
April 9th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Screw Kiffin take this guy:
Robert Ayers!
April 9th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
I’m beginning to feel the Raiders might go WR. I think they’re pretty set. Either a DT or WR.”
Kell’s right. If Crabtree is still on the board than he is the pick. Otherwise it’s Maclin.
I don’t make the decisions, I just call them like I see them.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
I think they’re going WR as well be it Crabtree or Maclin but what the hell do I know? Michael Jenkins will be available so you can never rule him out.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
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Al Davis will probably draft Malcomb Jenkins with the intention of converting him to safety.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
RaiderDogg – Thats what I was thinking.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
I honestly think that Marshall can get better production out of Huff and Eugene didn’t do all that bad last year either. Branch is also talented and might be ready to start as well.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Is marshall gonna spray magic dust over huff to make him quit missing tackles was that rob ryan out there getting stiff armed and juked no it was huff i expect what huff as given us nothing .
April 9th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
The problem is we only have 3 Safeties on the roster worth a damn. The Raiders probably have a safety they want in the draft since they haven’t added anybody. I thought Darren Sharper would have been a great addition because hes a playmaking SS and he could have helped in the interception department but we never went after him.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
NoMoreFargas – Everyone sucked in Rob Ryan’s defense except Asomugha. You going to to hate on everyone else too since everyone else missed plenty of tackles as well? Ever think that Huff was missing tackles as a FS once that runner got past the defensive line and linebackers first?
April 9th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
KoolKell…post#33
You’re absolutely right, trading Bush would be a big mistake. Fargas always gets injured, we only paid a 4th round pick for Bush. Bush, like MacFadden, is young and only has upside as he gets more experience. Additionally, we have to take into account that our offensive line has much room for improvement and that translates into more yardage for all our running backs.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Round 1: DT
Round 2: WR
Round 3: MLB
Round 4: SS
Beyond that I don’t care.
With this scenario we are upgraded across the board.
LMN?
April 9th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Bush has 2 more yrs on his contract, if we can’t trade him for Boldin, why not?
April 9th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
JHill 79…
Your observation is correct except for one thing. That is, it’s a given, every year, that Fargus will get hurt. It’s the nature of his running style. The only question is when. No one is wishing it on Fargus; hell, we all love the guy and his 100% effort at all times. But, he’s going to get injured and it’s great to have Bush ready to step in. We need all three running backs, as it’s a long season and maybe it will be increased to (18 games) next year?
April 9th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
You can always find quality RBs, but great WRs are hard to find. We can trade bush fir boldin, and draft a RB this year or the next in later rounds. We have DMC who was drafted 4th last year, and has a large contract. That means when Bush’s contract is up, he us gone, so why not get great value for him. When we trade for Boldin, we can give him a big contract dunce none of our WRs have large contracts now. IMHO.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
We have the potential to have the best RB corps since Allen and Bo played together and folks wanna go jacking it up by trading Bush (albeit Boldin is an incerdible player).
We have two incredible backs, an all-pro TE, and if we draft a solid WR (Crabtree/Maclin) we have the makings of a WR corps the NFL hasn’t seen since the Greatest Show on Turf.e
Bush is not easily replicated…Willis McGahee wishes he had recovered from surgery so well, and countless other first round RB running backs show less potential than Bush. Bush gives you a fleet footed Eddie George.
And people want to play Madden and trade him?
Just don’t get it.
Enlighten me.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Dunce: since, sorry.
We are not a SB team Now, but add Boldin, a good Draft for Defense, draft a RB in later Rounds this year or the next, and we can be a SB team in 2010 season. Maybe Ecen PO this year, if we add another RB.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Dunce: since, sorry.
We are not a SB team Now, but add Boldin, a good Draft for Defense, draft a RB in later Rounds this year or the next, and we can be a SB team in 2010 season. Maybe Even POs this year, if we add another RB. I’m not sure about L R, but he looked good last pre season.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
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April 9th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
OTBIC-reading this blog,you wouldn’t know people loved Fargas and didn’t wise that he gets hurt.yet these same people want to get great team players like C.Johnson and T.Owens on the team.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Boldin is 26 or 26. And bush is 24.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Feel a lot of people are forgetting our secret WR: McFadden.
Use him like the Colts use Faulk.
Let McFadden tear it up all around.
No need to mortgage the future when a good WR corps, pro-bowl TE and two of the most versatile and dangerous RBs can get the job done.
Trade pics, not players.
Al won’t, but the Eagles picks could land us a WR, DT in the first, a DE in the second, and LB in the third.
Could be sweet.
Damn you Al, and God bless.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
I like Bush a lot, but if we can add better, or more proven talent at a more needed position, why not? We have Fargas who rushed for a 1000 yard but can’t stay healthy, DMC , LR, and we can sign a FA RB if needed. After the draft, a few more will be released to make cap room. We can sign a vet RB cheap, and he can compete with Fargas and LR.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
Exactly,We have DMC.
Again, I will only trade Bush for Boldin only. Not Chad, or any 30+ yrs WR.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
let’s stop with the lets trade for Boldin,lets trade with Philly for their 2 1st rd picks insanity.do you really think teams will just give us these trades because we want them?why would Philly give us their 2 1st picks?they also have needs,as do all teams.and Az has said they aren’t going to trade Boldin,and why should they,so they can draft some young guy who will probably never be as good as Boldin.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Raider O-
Solid points…I am a Fargas fan..but ever since Bo went down with the hip injury I have been dying for the Second Coming…
Al has started a recent trend that I suspect will continue: Taking the “best player in the draft”.
Many teams subscribe to this but recently Al has gone with the biggest names: Russel and McFadden.
As such I feel Crabtree will be the pick if that trend continues.
Crabtree is national recognition…and Al loves the hype.
I may not like it but I can see it….
April 9th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
DMC was drafted with the 4th and has a large contract. That demands a lot of touches. About 20 runs a game, and 3-5 catches. How many times are we going to a run in 1 game, 30-35 times? If DMC is getting 20, so you would like to keep Bush for 10-15 runs a game, and that’s if Fargas doesn’t touch the Ball!!
April 9th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
how many games was Dmac totally healthy for?he hasn’t proven he can stay healthy in the NFL.we need Bush at least until we see that Dmac can stand the rigors of the NFL for more than a couple of weeks at a time.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
I’m not a Fargas Fan.
Even if we keep Bush, and he runs 10-20 times a game. Don’t you think he will demand a large contract when his old one is up ( in 2 yrs)?? We can’t pay large contracts to 2 RBs, so we will lose Bush in 2 yrs. I like the Boldin trade. AZ would trade fir 2 reasons:
1- they are ready to win now, but they need better RBs. James wants out, and hightower can’t carry the Load alone.
2- they have Larty Fitz, Bris, and they drafted that LSU WR high a few yrs back. What did boldin do in the SB, they news to improve their D, and running game.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
As for Mike Bush, a bird in hand is better than two in the bush.
Bush runs inside, outside, catches, throws….63yd TD run, 240lbs. Trade that? nah.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Need to improve.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
#575 Agreed, If Dmac or Bush goes down, we’ve still got a playmaker at RB.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Jhill and everyone is so worried about touches. Bush is the most complete back we have and I said it before DMC was drafted. That combo of Bush and DMC is going to be the best the NFL has to offer along with Fargas when needed. Fargas’s blcking kept the young backs on the bench but Bush has demonstrated excellent blitz pick up in games. That will make him the favorite. DMC is not a bad blocker needs better awareness. Trust me this will rival Minn and Carolina.
Russell is starting to show the leadership needed to be succesful now he needs to make sure he’s consistent. I think this offense will be a strength of this team for many years to come. All the young developing talent will pay off starting this season.
I’m looking forward to good year in ‘09.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
AZ will not trade Boldin.you are dreaming.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
I like Bush too. Just answer this, what will happen in 2 yrs when his contract is up? If he played great, then he will demand a large contract. Are we going to pay him and DMC big money. Also, won’t he rather go to another team, and Not share the load with DMC??
April 9th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Maybe I’m Lefty, it’s getting real late. lol
April 9th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Everybody’s contract is up in 2 years.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Priest-IF our line turns out to be solid.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
O-the NFL being what it is,who knows if either RB will still be in the league in 2 years.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
Raider O worry about that when you have to worry about it. First let’s get them playing well. The money will work itself out. No one knows what can happen in 2years.
April 10th, 2009 at 12:01 am
Even if we keep him, do you think we will win a SB in 2 yrs?
April 10th, 2009 at 12:02 am
Left
Cable is getting everything he wants, now agreed I would take A Smith in a heartbeat. But he knows his system and we just can’t ask him to go against that. If Mario is what I think he is the Oline will be fine.
April 10th, 2009 at 12:07 am
Who ca say if we can win a SB in 2years. All you can ask of a team is that They are competitive. And that they have an opportunity at least once every ten years to win a SB. Winning one almost requires some luck and other things. It’s almost crazy to say we will win a SB.
But if Russell is what I think he is we will at least go to a couple in his career.
April 10th, 2009 at 12:07 am
I think we need a few years to improve. This season and the next.
Like I said. I like Bush a lot, but I think we will lose him just when we are about to be a PO team. We lost Charles to the money. He played well at GB, made the PB there too. So you do lose players to money issues.
April 10th, 2009 at 12:07 am
You all still at it…Trading Bush is utter maddness. First of all we know that you need two GOOD backs in this league. Not one delicate back and a two 3rd string RBs. Rankin is not an NFL RB. I don’t care what he does in pre-season. Second, Fargas is near 30yrs old. His best days were left on the muddy field in Miami when Culpepper was pointing at his knee with the OK sign. Third, Bush and DMAC are young enough that they could be a dominate force for the next 5 to 8 yrs.
Forget these trades. Haven’t we learned that grabbing other teams players doesn’t work? Boldin, Philly, bump that. You bring Boldin in here and he’ll start hollering for the ball like T.O. In fact, I am against drafting a receiver at #7 because the demands of the contract will dictate the offense.
The Raiders have an All-Pro TE, a 30+ carry running game, 2 pass catching RBs, a slot receiver in JLH that will get catches. So between the other 2 receivers, how many passes are left? If you don’t force feed the ball to an overpaid receiver I say 3 to 4 a game. You don’t pay top 10 money for 3 to 4 catches a game.
The Raiders win when the distribute the ball and use all of their weapons. No trade for Boldin, no receiver at number 7.
Start DMAC and Bush and give them 95% of the carries. Start Walker and Schilens with JLH in the slot and Shields in certain formations and let’s roll!
April 10th, 2009 at 12:08 am
i have faith in Cable,i just question whether the players(o-lineman) we have are good enough and i don’t mean to be just adequate but to excel.we both know our off. will only be as good as the line lets it be.we’ve brought in bodies,but are they the answer?
April 10th, 2009 at 12:12 am
I think JR has the talent to be great. I said it before, he is the best talent I have seen at QB since peyton M. I said BEST TALENT, not QB. There are a lot better QBs than JR now, but none have his talent.
April 10th, 2009 at 12:13 am
SnB
I was watching the Tampa Game again tonite. I’m beginning to feel the WR vibe. Although we were good there in that game, and we were bad in the DT game. Russell is so good, Al may want to go Sid Gillman.
April 10th, 2009 at 12:19 am
KK-are you satisfied with the guys we have on our O-line?i,for one ,am not sure.but that’s why we have coaches,so we shall see.
April 10th, 2009 at 12:19 am
I’m a big fan of the run game, and having DMC and Bush. I just hate loosing talent, but will worry about thatvin 2 yrs. I guess my OCD got the best of me tonight. lol
Good night nation.
April 10th, 2009 at 12:20 am
nite,O
April 10th, 2009 at 12:21 am
KoolKell,
My question is how many catches will a wide receiver get in this offense? I again say 3 to 4 catches each or 48 to 64 catches for the year.
The Raiders don’t need a number 1 as much as they need for Russell to quickly identify the mismatches on the field. With Walker the possession guy, Schilens pressuring the secondary with the deep threat, JLH with his slants, Miller working the middle and screen/short pass threats from DMAC and Bush the Raiders are set.
If you bring Crabtree or Boldin in here. Tom Cable and Russell will feel compelled to force them the ball to get them 8 to 10 catches a game. The Raiders don’t need that. Especially if they are running the ball 30x a game.
Plus, someday the Raiders are going to have to re-sign guys like Miller, Russell, Bush, DMAC and whoever emerges at LT.
If a receiver is necessary, get a veteran or someone in the 2nd or 3rd round
April 10th, 2009 at 12:22 am
Anyway….I gotta roll. Just checking email and made a quick visit.
Later
April 10th, 2009 at 12:23 am
Lefty
I’d like to get Mack. But I’m satisfied with Henderson, and Green. And they’ve added depth and competition. But with #7 it’s gotta be WR or Raji.
April 10th, 2009 at 12:24 am
We didn’t lose Charles to money we got rid of Charles because of his partying. He was a poor example, when he went GB he woke up and started to spend time in the film room for the first time in his career. I don’t think he believed AL would lt him go.
Russell is very young but has done some improving maturity wise and if he continues to focus he’ll be fine. But he needs to slow the partying down. That’s his problem more than anything else.
Left if there’s anything Cable knows it’s the Oline IMO stop worrying you’ll see what I mean. Sure Harris didn’t pan out but it wasn’t his talent it was his head. No one can see that on film. K Harris has tremendous talent but a lack of confidence that couldn’t be fixed. So you move on. Cable is a borderline genius with the Oline, I simply can’t question his moves. Bob McKittrick was the same way. Bill Walsh just left the line to him and he was brilliant.
April 10th, 2009 at 12:24 am
Gnite.
April 10th, 2009 at 12:27 am
if Boldin is crying now about money,what would he be like if he was the go to guy on a different team that wasn’t as pass happy as AZ?
April 10th, 2009 at 12:29 am
nite,KK.
April 10th, 2009 at 12:31 am
24, and I’m sure Sapp cares about as much rather or not you respect him as I do rather or not you respect me. You don’t even know what respect is.
Hayez, was Sapp ever proven wrong about his claims that Al made calls to the field? You’re stating as fact that he’s wrong. How do you know this?
April 10th, 2009 at 12:32 am
lefty12 Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 12:27 am
if Boldin is crying now about money,what would he be like if he was the go to guy on a different team that wasn’t as pass happy as AZ?
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Couldn’t resist. You are exactly right. Plus, guys like Boldin, Marques Colston, Wes Welker, T.J Houshminzadeh were not top 10 picks. They were identified and developed by their respective teams.
I say confidently that the Raiders best bet is to roll with Walker, Schilens and JLH and see what Shields brings to camp.
Now I am out…
April 10th, 2009 at 12:32 am
Goodnight Lefty, KK.
*roll sound: Waltons theme song…
April 10th, 2009 at 12:34 am
Priest-i understand what you are saying about Cable and really we have to put our faith in him as far as the line goes-hell as far as the whole team goes for that matter.i just wonder if he is satisfied with the players we now have or if he wants to use some of our picks,especially #1,on more O-linemen.
April 10th, 2009 at 12:36 am
We’ll be much better than anyone thinks at WR this year. The talent is there it just needs time and reps. WE should see a much better Russell and a much more confident Russell.
I said it earlier our offense will start to be a strength in the second half of the season.
If I’m wrong repost this at that time.
Anyway Adios gotta get some shuteye.
April 10th, 2009 at 12:36 am
i’m otta here too.later Priest.
April 10th, 2009 at 12:39 am
Left12
He’s the one getting these players Left12, so he damn well better be satisfied. Plus I don’t think there’s any question we’ll get a player or 2 in the draft for the Oline. But not the guy’s WE think we should get.
Adios.
April 10th, 2009 at 1:01 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYyIPbPAQ2Y
April 10th, 2009 at 2:08 am
Morning, guys!
April 10th, 2009 at 2:10 am
MaddenRaider…
Awwwwww, man that reminds me of when I just got home from Kosova, I couldnt sleep and saw Walton re-runs at 5 o’clock in the morning… =)
April 10th, 2009 at 2:11 am
Morning nation.
If Sapp was thinking, or not thinking, like this when he played it explains quite a lot.
April 10th, 2009 at 2:19 am
Sapp: Al’s a genius or a “legend” Sapp thinks.
Al hires Cable.
Cable couldn’t organize a picnic Sapp
says.
Al is going to draft a safety with the 7th
pick Sapp says.
This guy really tries to live up to his
name.
And you’re not coming to Cable’s picnic.
No saps allowed.
April 10th, 2009 at 2:26 am
Hey Jerry,
If there’s a barbaque, are you going to steak it out like you did Kiffin’s elevator?
Oh, boy that’s bad.
I guess, I’m just going to have to go do the taxes, seems like I’m desperate.
April 10th, 2009 at 3:55 am
very best post in a very long time!!!!
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SnB Defense Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:54 am
RaiderRockstar,
Tom Cable took that P.O.S offensive line from ‘06 and made it a credible line in 2007. In ‘08 he stuck with Kwame Harris too long. Once he got him on the bench, the O-Line started blocking. He put brought in free agents to push Mario Henderson and upgrade the RT position. Henderson was on Sirius Radio Late Hits a couple days ago. He said he’s bust’n his backside everyday and also…he sees Russell in the building everyday. He said it makes him work harder knowing his QB is working.
I trust Cable with the free agents and I like Super Mario. No need to use #7 on OT.
As for WR, Walker, like Kelly, will be 1yr removed from knee surgery. If its good enough for Tommy its good enough for Javon. Walker should be a decent receiver this year. Schilens has the size, speed and blocking tenacity to be a number 2. JLH has proven his big play ability as a 2 or 3. Raider receivers will need to catch 3 to 4 per game. The guys on the roster are capable of doing that.
So I am good with the offense as is provided they run the football and scrap this West Coast Offense. I hate the WCO. The WCO is not Raider football and its not the offense that best utilizes Russell’s skillset.
Russell will throw for 2900 yds, 23TDS and 12 INTs.
Bush and DMAC will each run for 1,000 yds.
There you have it!
April 10th, 2009 at 3:56 am
I think the picnic will be in Sapps back yard and they will be serving CROW! Cable may be the next Madden, if the seaeson turns out good he will suddenly be a genius. I think he has the right attitude and he is a players coach. I hvent seen anything about him I dont like yet, after all look at the hand he got dealt! By the way, I dont think giving up Bush is such a good idea and going for another safety is a risk, safeties are made not picked up as high draft picks. Look at the W/Os available and stay away from expensive top picks. Maybe trade the pick for Bouldin!
April 10th, 2009 at 4:14 am
Good Morning NATION
Sapp used 2B someone,now hes nobody,and he wasnt invitred 2 da picnic so hes mad and hungry
April 10th, 2009 at 4:37 am
Sapp who?
anyway, how do you guys like the Raiders fourth round pick this year?
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Sleeper DB Getting Noticed
by Adam Caplan of ScoutNFLNetwork.com, April 8, 2009 at 5:33pm ET
Vince Anderson Profile
If you’re looking for a late-round sleeper, there’s probably no better one than Webber International University CB Vince Anderson.
Anderson had virtually no chance of getting drafted a few months ago, but teams have started to do their homework on the NAIA product, and after his tape has been reviewed, the 6′2″ defensive back has started to get attention.
As noted several weeks ago by Scout.com, Anderson is set to make a pre-draft visits with the New York Giants and Oakland Raiders, and he’s expected to work out for the Atlanta Falcons, Kansas City Chiefs, Jacksonville Jaguars, and New England Patriots before the draft.
You can see a 5-6 minute highlight package of the athletic defensive back on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX6LdHkbF5s.
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this guys tackling and play-recognition would be a waiste at CB and has the size to play Safety(plays some midfield at 4:45).
pretty good athlete, time will tell what the scouts find out about his attitude and workhabits etc before the draft.
April 10th, 2009 at 4:43 am
Fltom:
I hear you brother Raider.
When you looked at Cable on the sidelines in the last two games you saw that Madden thing, Cable handling the players like Madden, running and following the play and looking and reacting like Madden.
That part may be wishful thinking but he looks like he might be what we’re looking for.
We know that Al likes Madden and Al isn’t sentimental enough to worry about how Cable looks on the sidelines.
He kept him for stability but now likes the way Cable works with him and the results that Cable is getting.
Madden and Al worked closely every week and Cable and Al are working closely.
The results are showing up. This is one of most organized and productive seasons that we’ve had in a long time. It was also pretty obvious that Cable worked a whole lot better with Russell and Mario than Kiffin did. We now need a great draft.
It sure beats Kiffin acting like a little kid, sulking, sabotaging the team through his own selfishness because he wants to be fired for money.
April 10th, 2009 at 5:05 am
Don’t understand why people keep wanting to trade Bush. That’s a bit like finding a diamond and then skimming it on a lake. We need all three.
I suppose the Bush traders are just looking at all the holes in the team and want to fill them in but let’s trade someone else, Walter and Huff if we can.
It may be that Walter is already packing. Garcia said he was already going in and was in quarterback school with Gradowski and Russell without mentioning Walter.
April 10th, 2009 at 5:08 am
It’s obvious that Sapp still has nightmares about being cut in practice. Maybe that’s why he retired?
April 10th, 2009 at 5:13 am
thats what I got out of that Garcia comment;Walter is NOT there
April 10th, 2009 at 5:48 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
What a week. Got 2 people out this morning, so…
I’ll check in and out…
4eva, LMN, Rockstar, Dirt Lot, NMF…
What’s up fellas? Its Friday!!!
April 10th, 2009 at 5:55 am
Yeah for all the bush haters one of the biggest holes is a rb who can be dominant between the tackles dmac has great speed but isn’t gonna put the hurt on guys up the middle like bush and if bush picks up blitz than he does everything better than fargas .
April 10th, 2009 at 5:55 am
Morning NATION!!!!
April 10th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Morning Hwnrdr not much,Sapp just running his trap
April 10th, 2009 at 5:56 am
My biggest problem with cable besides his love for fargas is when he said he was a celtics fan.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!
GO LAKERS!!!!!!
April 10th, 2009 at 5:57 am
WOW 408!!!!!!!!!!!!!sup??????????????????
April 10th, 2009 at 5:58 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,HWNDR,4EVA,ENGLANDRAIDER,L M N,ALL THE USUAL SUSPECT’S, I ENJOY SAPP , CHARLE’S BARKLEY AND OTHERS,JUST REMEMBER, THEY HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING TO KEEP THERE MEDIA JOB’S,THEY ARE NOT THE FIRST NOR WILL THEY BE THE LAST TO SENSATIONALISE SOMETHING, AKA STRECH THE FACTS, DO NOT LET THE FACTS OR WHAT REALLY HAPPEND GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD STORY…
April 10th, 2009 at 6:03 am
4eva… !!!! couldn’t sleep so what the hell might as well get my blog on..
April 10th, 2009 at 6:04 am
I always thought Sapp was a better football player than talker =)
April 10th, 2009 at 6:06 am
FREE DIRTY!!!
April 10th, 2009 at 6:08 am
Sapp should keep his trap shut cuz he didnt do isht 4 the RAIDERS…
April 10th, 2009 at 6:12 am
ROCKSTAR,L M N, YOU GUY’S AWAKE ?
April 10th, 2009 at 6:22 am
WHAT’S THE WEATHER LOOK LIKE IN BAY-AREA 2MORROW,GOT 2 TIX TO THE A’S VS.SEATTLE….
April 10th, 2009 at 6:24 am
What a difference a year makes. This time last year Kiffin and all his drama was in full swing. Kiffin did his best to destroy the Raiders while shopping himself to the highest paying taker. Thank GOD Kiffin took his “I’m All In” Circus elsewhere. That was a true example of addition by subtraction. Hopefully the Kiffin backers have finally seen the errors of their ways or maybe things will change for them once Tenn. gets pounded this year. Cable earned a shot and proved he deserved the opportunity to be the HC. Goon
April 10th, 2009 at 6:25 am
Which one of you guys is the Allen Iverson fan? One of you likes Iverson, wherever he plays, and the Denver Nuggets…who was that? If you are out there I have a fun article for you to read!!!
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/9436532/No-question,-Iverson-was-never-the-Answer
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Dakota: I’m an Iverson fan. Can’t say I’ve watched him play much as a Piston though. I hate the Pistons!
I can’t click on that link. My work blocks the page. Can you post the article?
April 10th, 2009 at 6:26 am
you off 4 Easter 408???
April 10th, 2009 at 6:27 am
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/30145811#30145811
GO dakota and BSJ go Teabag, *chuckle* unlucky term they chose =)
Im out the rest of the day, im heading for the park =)
April 10th, 2009 at 6:28 am
Sapp said, “One of the true legends of the game. It was an absolute pleasure to play for the man. The only thing is, I wish I could have won more for him. He embodies everything that the NFL is. He’s unmistakable. Recognize greatness when you see it, because it won’t be around too much longer. I love Al.”
The best qoute Sapp ever made in his HOF career.
April 10th, 2009 at 6:28 am
good morning Hwnrdr, Dirt Lot, 408, NMF, 4eva …
whoa! special guest appearances by BAG & ENGLAND. welcome
waitress: get these early birds some coffee, would ya?
April 10th, 2009 at 6:29 am
4eva
yeah but my princess is gonna hang out with her mom..
its all good tho
April 10th, 2009 at 6:30 am
here ya go Rockstar
No question, Iverson was never the Answerby Jason Whitlock
Jason Whitlock brings his edgy and thought-provoking style to FOXSports.com. Columnist for the Kansas City Star, he has won the National Journalism Award for Commentary for “his ability to seamlessly integrate sports and social commentary and to challenge widely held assumptions along the racial divide.”
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In the pantheon of spoiled, media-cuddled, overhyped professional basketball players, Allen Iverson reigns supreme.
At least Charles Barkley wanted to win. Karl Malone and John Stockton tried to win. Patrick Ewing — like Barkley, Malone and Stockton — was cursed by the misfortune of being great at the same time Michael Jordan was other worldly.
Iverson has no such excuse. He arrived at the tail end of Air Jordan’s rulership. As Isiah Thomas was the bridge between the Magic-Bird and Jordan eras, Iverson was supposed to transition us from Jordan to Kobe-Shaq.
Despite what Iverson’s media apologists write and say, The Answer was an underachiever on and off the court.
If this reads like an obituary, that’s because it is.
Iverson’s career as an NBA legend died of self-inflicted wounds this season in Detroit. Much like the death of his role model, rapper Tupac Shakur, Iverson’s supporters will reject the news of his demise and predict a Machiavellian return, a Dr. J-like finish to Iverson’s career.
Picture me rolling on the floor laughing my ass off.
Winning has never really mattered to Allen Iverson. He is the embodiment of everything that has gone wrong in America, an unexposed, all-style-little-substance Hall of Famer.
In five months, Iverson accomplished what Flip Saunders couldn’t in three years. The Answer turned the six-time Eastern Conference finalists into a hanging-by-a-string, eighth-place playoff qualifier.
And then he quit, citing back problems, a reduced role and lack of interest. Officially the Pistons deactivated Iverson for the remainder of the season due to injuries. The truth is, Iverson took his ball and went home, uncomfortable with the thought of easing back into the rotation with limited participation in practice and games.
Yeah, this duo didn’t exactly work out did it? Yet somehow Chauncey Billups has the Nuggets looking golden. (Jesse D. Garrabrant / Getty Images)
Iverson said he’d rather retire than come off the bench, help the Pistons win and represent Detroit. Loser.
This column came to me last week when I was in The Motor City covering the NCAA Tournament. Tom Izzo and his Michigan State Spartans shocked everyone, advancing to the title game and claiming they wanted to serve as an inspiration to the economically depressed people of their state.
Meanwhile, Iverson gave up on Chocolate City, a chocolate coach (Michael Curry), a chocolate general manager (Joe Dumars) and an all-chocolate, one-Argentine roster.
I mention race because Iverson, his tatts, his swagger, his rap sheet and his style of play all supposedly gave him a special level of street cred and no-sellout status.
How you like Iverson now, Detroit?
The view from up close is quite chilling and enlightening. His ghetto-warrior reputation couldn’t be any further separated from reality than had the producers of “Lost” written his script.
Iverson is a one-man, no-country Army, more than likely the victim of a dysfunctional upbringing that left him incapable of embracing the concepts essential to teamwork, winning and sacrifice for the benefit of others.
We’re a nation of Allen Iversons, and the unchecked Wall Street greed that has us on the brink of collapse is nothing more than our chickens coming home to rot.
The assault on, the destruction of and lack of appreciation for the American family has created a nation of independent contractors. We’re no longer connected.
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Your destiny has nothing to do with mine.
Iverson has always been a soloist.
He could’ve been the second-best point guard in the history of the game (after Magic Johnson). But the idea of being a distributor first and scorer second stood in the way of a futile, ridiculous effort to chase Jordan. At 6-foot, 165 pounds, Iverson had as much of a chance of filling Jordan’s Jordans as yours truly being the next Ron Jeremy.
Iverson tailored a compromise position — points guard. For much of his career, he played both backcourt positions at the same time, leaving his teammates plenty of opportunity to stand around and watch. In 13 NBA seasons, he’s averaged 22 shots, 27 points, six assists and 42 percent shooting from the field. In comparison, Isiah Thomas averaged 16 shots, 19 points, nine assists and connected on 45 percent of his shots. In 11 seasons, Thomas played in 111 playoff games and won two titles. Iverson has played in 71 postseason games and advanced to the conference and NBA Finals just once. (It’s also worth mentioning that in two college seasons, Thomas won an NCAA title, and in the same amount of time, Iverson never made the Final Four.)
In 2001, after the Sixers embarrassed him with threats of an offseason trade and with Larry Brown brow-beating Iverson nightly, he put together a remarkable, MVP season and carried Philadelphia to the NBA Finals.
That season was the one glimpse at what Iverson should’ve been. He won a career-high 56 regular-season games with Aaron McKie, Eric Snow, Tyrone Hill and 34-year-old Dikembe Mutombo providing support. Focused and motivated, Iverson reluctantly listened to Brown and pretended to be a winner.
Of course, it didn’t last long. Iverson’s narcissistic play and demeanor prevented him from developing a Tonto, a Pippen, a McHale, a Worthy, a Dumars. Iverson has never been accused accurately of making the players around him better.
Iverson didn’t bring out the best or worst in Carmelo Anthony in Denver. The two stars simply co-existed. Chauncey Billups, the other half of the Iverson-to-Detroit trade, has Anthony and the Nuggets sitting at No. 2 in the West and a sexy pick to win it all.
Iverson, a free agent this offseason, will return to the league next year. I’d imagine he’ll try to cherry-pick a title by attempting to join LeBron James. It won’t be a replay of Kevin Garnett teaming with Paul Pierce.
It’ll be Titanic II with Allen Iceberg
April 10th, 2009 at 6:30 am
WELL SAID. POST-640 “WHILE SHOPPING HIMSELF TO THE HIGHEST PAYING TAKER” THER IS A WORD FOR PEOPLE LIKE THAT,IN SHORT, THEY ARE GARDEN UTENSIL’S –HOE’S—
April 10th, 2009 at 6:33 am
I have always bad mouthed Iverson he is selfish and dosen’t make anyone on his team better, even when he won the MVP the sixers were good that year because they picked up a real PG eric snow and aaron mackie was 6man of the year. Friends always tell me if Iverson had just played with a dominant C he would win, yeah right that C would never get the ball.
April 10th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Morning Nation,
Would Roscoe Parrish (wr) Bills (on the block) help us in the slot????
O-line for ‘09
April 10th, 2009 at 6:39 am
Cable is a Celtics fan?
That’s real disappointing.
I’m a Kings fan, a very sad one.
Better go finish the taxes. I think I’ll post date the check, I’m sure they won’t mind.
April 10th, 2009 at 6:39 am
I’m thinking Jerry isnt gonna give us a fix till monday
April 10th, 2009 at 6:41 am
If I’ve said it once I’ve said it a thousand times! The cable guy got Zsapped
April 10th, 2009 at 6:42 am
# NoMoreFargas Says:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Why wait till the 4qt use dmac and bush together the whole game both are great at catching the ball bush is a much better runner between the tackles than dmac.
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seriously… Cable needs to get over his man crush on fargas and put the playmakers in the game
April 10th, 2009 at 6:42 am
Morning trolly troll…
April 10th, 2009 at 6:44 am
I think we have are slot wr his name is JLH and he is pretty fast .
April 10th, 2009 at 6:45 am
you prolly right 408,and Cable aint talking ’till Tuesday
April 10th, 2009 at 6:47 am
The more Oline men we sign the more I think we go WR in the draft..
April 10th, 2009 at 6:47 am
Iverson said he’d rather retire than come off the bench. so what?
And anybody who has ever had back problems before (I have) knows how limited you are, especially playing a game like basketball.
Stars want to finish on top. They want to go out with a bang. Did you see Jordan, Bird, Magic, etc sitting on the bench wasting away, trying to be a cheerleader and give the team a spark for 10 minutes a night? NO! He only wants to be on the court if he’s going to be a difference maker. Can you blame him?
Iverson is a stud and Jason Whitlock is a joke.
Thanks for the article Dakota & 4eva
April 10th, 2009 at 6:48 am
Go Blazers!!!
All you laker fans are bout to wittness the natrual B-ROY at his best tonite……
I think maybe fargas to the bills for parrish maybe we could move up in the fourth round with the trade?????? and add vetran depth at wr and kr/pr….hmm intiging I do think we need two 3 backs but not 3 starting backs we can get a cast off rb after the draft via FA to shore up bush and D-mac…. and have a new deep threat.. and move up in the draft…Mr. DAvis are you listening???
O-line for’09
April 10th, 2009 at 6:49 am
yep this sure is 1 interesting off-season
April 10th, 2009 at 6:49 am
good morning LMN, OAKlifer, happy troll …
April 10th, 2009 at 6:50 am
One last thought.
If Walter HAS left the building as Garcia seemed to suggest. Has Al already worked out a deal with someone that will show up on draft days?
All will be revealed at the picnic.
I don’t think so.
Even if Jerry steaks out the barbacue the only thing Cable will begiving away is food.
HEY JERRY! Ask Cable about Walter on Tuesday.
April 10th, 2009 at 6:51 am
NoMoreFargas Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 6:44 am
I think we have are slot wr his name is JLH and he is pretty fast .
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Oh NOMO,
Dont get me wrong I said help not replace I love JLH I was ranting to all my buddy b4 we evenb drafted him…and a healthy roscoe is better than a healthy javon…in my book and it might be a good idea……. Remember we are talking about using the #7 on a WR why notget some vetran “help” at two spots again he is a special teams star….I know we have a few of our own…but its a weak spot and somethin we should look into!!!
O-line for ‘09
April 10th, 2009 at 6:53 am
Double R,
morning brother!
Roscoe???????
O-line for ‘09
April 10th, 2009 at 6:53 am
NoMoreFargas: McKie & Snow were garbage. I’ve been a 76ers fan since AI was drafted
Iverson carried that team on his back for years, just like LeBron is doing for the Cavs…
He hasn’t been a selfish player or the go-to-guy in Denver or Detroit, nor has he tried to be.
April 10th, 2009 at 6:53 am
sup with the crazy lady in orange county tacking the police on a high speed???
April 10th, 2009 at 6:59 am
we don’t need Roscoe Parrish.
Mel Kiper Jr. has the Browns taking Michael Crabtree #5 overall in his latest mock. interesting!
Joshua Cribbs
David Patten
Syndric Steptoe
Kevin Kasper
Paul Hubbard
Devale Ellis
Thats their WR corps if they trade Braylon Edwards. yikes! He’s on the trade block and Stallworth has legal troubles now … makes sense
The Browns have a pretty terrible defense too though.
April 10th, 2009 at 7:02 am
they caught the crazy lady…
April 10th, 2009 at 7:02 am
408….408…408…408…408…408
April 10th, 2009 at 7:04 am
should we trade Javon Walker and the #7 overall pick to Cleveland in exchange for Braylon Edwards and their 5th Round pick?
Edwards is better than Maclin. right?
April 10th, 2009 at 7:05 am
Braylon Edwards drops alot of balls…
April 10th, 2009 at 7:14 am
Hey Dirt Lot,
The Bay is still a bit wet from all the rain that we had here since Tuesday, but it is supposed clear up tonight and be nice over the weekend. Remember: key word…supposed to…
Anyways, enjoy the A’s game. Haven’t been to one in a while…
Rockstar, Edwards was dropping alot of everything last year. Don’t know why…
April 10th, 2009 at 7:21 am
morning nation,
as it was posted 18 1/2 hours and 670odd comments ago, Orakpo or not? perhaps half a dozen of the entries said yes to the Texas player, the rest either no or disregarded him altogether. So, I guess it is settled, the Nation has decided NO to Orakpo.
Excellent.
April 10th, 2009 at 7:26 am
so it is written,so it shall be
April 10th, 2009 at 7:26 am
Bynum is baaaaaack.
Go Lakers!
Draft Andre Smith!
April 10th, 2009 at 7:26 am
and
as it was posted 18 1/2 hours and 670odd comments ago, is Warren a Sapp? a few score ideas thought Cecil’s cousin was anything but flagrant with his lowbrow comments regarding Tom The Cable Coach (maybe Sapp was trying to rekindle his failed sighting on the Cable roast). So, I guess it is again settled, the Nation stands with its HC on this one.
April 10th, 2009 at 7:32 am
According to Wes Bunting, supposedly a scout, from the national football post, these players would be the best fits in Cable’s scheme:
“Top 10 Zone-Blocking Scheme Offensive Linemen
C Max Unger, Oregon (6-5, 310)
T Jamon Meredith, South Carolina (6-5, 304)
T Xavier Fulton, Illinois (6-4, 302)
T Lydon Murtha, Nebraska (6-7, 306)
T Gerald Cadogan, Penn State (6-5, 309)
C Blake Schlueter, TCU (6-3, 290)
C A.Q. Shipley, Penn State (6-1, 304)
T Andrew Gardner, Georgia Tech (6-7, 304)
T Augustus Parrish, Kent State (6-4, 303)
C Jon Cooper, Oklahoma (6-2, 291)”.
April 10th, 2009 at 7:34 am
M Lonetree Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 7:21 am
So, I guess it is settled, the Nation has decided NO to Orakpo.
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not unless he can go both ways and play OT on the left side i’m really not down with that pick at 7….unless
someone who is a fan of his proves to me he is an EVERY down BASE defensive end who is big enough and quick enough tho cause fits againts some of the best LT’s in football….im not sold
O-line for ‘09
April 10th, 2009 at 7:36 am
I like Gerald Cadogan the best, he can be had in the 3rd round.
Smart (Academic All-Big Ten), athletic (5.12 Forty) and long armed (35 3/4 Inches).
April 10th, 2009 at 7:37 am
And a Happy Birthday greeting to the one and only John Madden. 73 years today.
Now that would be a b’day party to attend.
April 10th, 2009 at 7:37 am
Guess there are no ZBS guards worth a schit in the draft?
April 10th, 2009 at 7:38 am
Odens back.
Go blazers!
Draft any O-line for ‘09!!!!!!
mornin Dakota
April 10th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Jamon Meredith seems like a good pick as well, he’s visiting Oakland today.
April 10th, 2009 at 7:40 am
The Blazers own the Lakers in Portland Oaklifer…but that is going to change tonight.
April 10th, 2009 at 7:41 am
What ever happened 2 the mystery front office guy???
April 10th, 2009 at 7:44 am
Warren Sapp is a TOTAL LOSER. I think its funny that all he wants to do is bash the Raiders since he has left. He is always talking about bad draft picks and Free Agents. Warren was an absolute waste of money. He should look at himself in the mirror and appologize to Raider nation for being Overweight and out of shape. How many 3rd and longs did he go to the sidelines and miss becausse he was sucking wind. Hey Warren, stick to your Extreme Dancing because you are no Athlete and definetly no where near a journalist. The more you pen your mouth, the more you make yourself look like a fool.
April 10th, 2009 at 8:01 am
Everyone at church or something?
April 10th, 2009 at 8:04 am
yes but I brought my laptop!!!!! Amen
O-line for ‘09
April 10th, 2009 at 8:04 am
Dakota,
imagine what this site will be like after the Hayward Fault does its seismic thing.
April 10th, 2009 at 8:05 am
To All in the Raider Nation, Happy Easter or Happy Passover.
April 10th, 2009 at 8:07 am
This actually makes me feel better about Tom Cable as coach. Getting approval from Warren Sapp is like the kiss of death.
When can we begin forgetting all about Sapp as a Raider? We need to start denying that these idiots ever wore the S&B: Romanowski, Sapp, Randy Moss to name a few.
April 10th, 2009 at 8:07 am
That would improve the level of conversation wouldn’t it M…we just wouldn’t have a team to talk about anymore.
April 10th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Bob Marley: nice post #678 !!!
Max Unger is the only Center on that list worth looking at if Alex Mack isn’t there in Round 2. I don’t think we should move back into Round 1 to get him since we already traded a pick and moved back in Round 4 to get Samson Satele.
Unger will be there in Round 2. I doubt he falls to Round 3.
Any of those tackles you listed are worth at least looking at …
April 10th, 2009 at 8:08 am
Offensive Tackle stuff:
“However, two other vital pieces of information are also recorded (at the combine) that have just as much importance in determining how “big” a potential NFL prospect will play.
Those numbers are reach (the length of a prospect’s arm) and hand size (the length from the pinkie finger to the thumb).
Football is a contact sport in which collisions occur on virtually every play. Most NFL players are asked to win battles at the point of attack, and the players with the biggest frames and longest reaches have a clear advantage when engaging opposing players.
The reach or arm length of an NFL prospect is a key attribute to any position, especially those on the line of scrimmage.
However, no position is more crucial when it comes to reach than offensive tackle.” NFP, Wes Bunting.
Apparently, scouts consider 35 plus inches to be “Great”.
- Phil Loadholt, Oklahoma 36 1/2
- Andre Smith, Alabama 35 3/8
- Gerald Cadogan, Penn State 35
- Augustus Parrish, Kent State 35
34-plus is considered “Good”.
- William Beatty, Conneticut 34 3/4
- Jamon Meredith, S. C. 34 1/2
- Ramon Foster, Tennessee 34 1/2
- Andrew Gardner, G. Tech 34 1/2
- Joel Bell, Furman 34
33-plus is considered “Average”
- Eugene Monroe, Virginia 33 7/8
- Lydon Murtha, Nebraska 33 7/8
- Jason Smith, Baylor 33 3/4
- Michael Oher, Ole Miss 33 1/2
April 10th, 2009 at 8:09 am
To Narco Bob,
I hope your Seder (I think that’s right) went well.
April 10th, 2009 at 8:10 am
ANDRE SMITH 35 3/8
Make it happen Al!
April 10th, 2009 at 8:10 am
To All in the Raider Nation, Happy Easter or Happy Passover.
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thanks brother. It’s Good Friday!
resurrection day is only 2 days away. always remember what Christ has done for us.
to the non beleivers: at least it’s friday and you have a weekend to look forward to. haha. get your butts in church. you’re not THAT busy
April 10th, 2009 at 8:11 am
In case anyones is wondering….
Robert Gallery, 32 1/4 inches (2004).
April 10th, 2009 at 8:11 am
Dakota,
I guess the ultimate improvement will be when the spies (Cinese?) who have hacked into the controls of US electrical power grids decide to shut it all down.
April 10th, 2009 at 8:11 am
ExLA,
Did you watch the game last night? Bynum looked pretty good for his first game back didn’t he?
April 10th, 2009 at 8:12 am
I thought Romanowski did a alright as a raider.. Well except 4 when he broke dudes face @ training camp
April 10th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Nice info as usual Bob.
I am very high on Jamon Meredith. Played LT in the SEC and is quietly considered the 5th best LT in the draft not far behind the Smiths, Oher, and Monroe. Yet he should be available in the 2nd round. Scouting reports say he has good feet and a lot of quickness; crucial for playing LT and in the ZBS.
April 10th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Dakota
“ANDRE SMITH 35 3/8
Make it happen Al!”
This is for you:
“Andre Smith, Alabama (6-4, 332), arm length: 35 5/8 inches
Although Smith is a bit short for the position by NFL standards, his length more than makes up for his height.
Smith actually plays more like a tackle who is 6-8. He possesses great feet for his size, but he lacks the kind of explosion needed on his kick step to consistently reach the corner vs. speed rushers.
However, it’s his length that will allow him to hold his own in pass protection and engage long-armed defensive ends on the outside and drive them off the ball.”
April 10th, 2009 at 8:14 am
M Lonetree Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 8:11 am
Dakota,
I guess the ultimate improvement will be when the spies (Cinese?) who have hacked into the controls of US electrical power grids decide to shut it all down.
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I will kick some “Cinese” ass if I can’t play my PS3!!!
April 10th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Music to my ears Bob. Thanks for that.
April 10th, 2009 at 8:18 am
Keyshawn Johnson was on SportsCenter this morning giving the Raiders some love.
They asked him about Jeff Garcia vs. JaMarcus Russell and who would be the starter Week 1 on MNF during their coors light 6 pack of questions
Key said Russell without a doubt. Said Garcia was just there to show Russell how to be a professional. Said Russell imrpoved a lot towards the end of the season and that with Tom Cable having a half season with him and Cable coaching next season for 16 games next year will make Russell just that much better.
I thought that was pretty cool. All I ever hear from NFL Live is Raider bashing from Trey Wingo & Mark Schlereth.
Cris Carter said last week that the Raiders have a shot at the division with both Denver & KC rebuilding and San Diego only notching 8 wins last season.
Pretty sweet, huh fellas?
April 10th, 2009 at 8:19 am
Keyshawn must be trying to get Al Davis to sign him.
April 10th, 2009 at 8:21 am
Mark Schlereth doesn’t think Andre Smith has good enough footwork to be a LT in this league. Said he may end up a RT or guard in the NFL, because he’s not a good enough athlete.
Said he would get eaten alive by guys like Freeney & Peppers …
April 10th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Mark Schlereth has never been right about anything as a talking head.
April 10th, 2009 at 8:24 am
A couple of nights ago Schlereth said Curry shouldn’t be a top 10 pick.
lmfao
April 10th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Dakota Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 8:11 am
ExLA,
Did you watch the game last night? Bynum looked pretty good for his first game back didn’t he?
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Saw the big improvement in the 2nd half when he got more aggressive. Like to see how he’s does against the Blazer’s and Mr. Injury Greg Oden. If we don’t get home court against the Cavs, it will be because of Portland.
April 10th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Bart Bridge
Yeah, Jamon Meredith and Gerald Cadogan are very intereting players, both were productive at major programs vs top competition.
Physically, their combination of size, athleticism and reach is hard to match, and they are two of the smartest players out there.
Meredith probably has to be taken in the 2nd and Cadogan in the 3rd.
April 10th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Mark Schlereth is a donk homer. He still bleeds orange and blue and it makes me sick listening to him
Mel Kiper Jr. still thinks Andre Smith will be a Top 10 draft pick as the 3rd tackle selected in this draft.
April 10th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Doesnt every team have a CHANCE at winning their division in April?
What have the Raiders done lately to deserve any credit in the media?
Why is Keyshawn any different from Sapp? Oh, because Key said something half nice. Come on bro. Stop whining. I recall back in Gannons days it was a nonstop Raider love fest in the media.
April 10th, 2009 at 8:28 am
Andre Smith would be ideal for a run-heavy offense, coupled with a quick-strike passing game. He can’t hold the edge for more than a second or two because of his lack of quickness, once a rusher out-runs his wingspan they are gone. (Watch the “highlight” clips of Smith at Alabama, the QB gets rid of the ball very quickly on every play, that is the biggest reason for Andre not giving up sacks)
With Al attempting to install a run-heavy offense coupled with a deep-strike passing game, Smith would be a liability on the edge as Russell is gonna have to sit down in the pocket and wait for routes to develop.
I like Smith as a RT or gaurd, and wouldn’t be disappointed if we drafted him for that reason, but with so many FA’s coming in at RT, it seems that a legit LT is a much more pressing need in the draft.
April 10th, 2009 at 8:29 am
A couple of nights ago Schlereth said Curry shouldn’t be a top 10 pick.
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Darren Woodson said Curry shouldn’t be taken that high either unless he’s the next Rey Lewis. Then followed it up by saying that Curry is NOT the next Rey Lewis.
April 10th, 2009 at 8:29 am
You know what the most entertaining part of the 2009-10 season is going to be? Watching the Broncos implode and their coach getting ripped by the fans and media. That will be fun stuff!
April 10th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Bob,
I have not heard much about Cadogan, what school is he from? Is he quick enough for the ZBS?
April 10th, 2009 at 8:32 am
I can’t wait to watch Cutler lead the Bears to the playoffs while the Broncos struggle at 4-12, lol.
April 10th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Dakota
Unfortunately, I’m pretty certain Andre Smith is a lock for Cincy, if available, to me, it’s the only sure thing in this Draft.
April 10th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Bob Marley: I’m pretty sure Cincy will go for at OT as well. If they aren’t sold on A. Smith they’ll either draft Oher in the Top 10 or trade down …
If 3 of the first 6 picks are OT’s and 1 is a QB we’ll have a chance to draft an excellent player that fills a need … If the other 2 teams draft Crabtree & Raji then we’ll get Curry!
not likely though
April 10th, 2009 at 8:47 am
KC has so many holes it’s funny.
They could draft Crabtree, Curry, Orakpo or the 2nd best OT
nobody knows!
April 10th, 2009 at 8:47 am
Cable going to address the media on Tuesday? A pre-draft press conference? The Raiders? Jeez, maybe things are changing. The Raiders usually don’t hold a PC unless they’re required to (Post game and Tuesdays)
or if the sky is falling (Everything else)
April 10th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Bart Bridge
Some Stuff on Gerald Cadogan, he played at Penn State:
“Cadogan developed into one of the sound blocking technicians in the country, emerging in his senior year as a player who can add to the university’s impressive record of producing solid pro offensive lineman.
Cadogan shifted to left tackle in 2007. The All-Big Ten Conference choice registered 71 knockdowns, as his 16 touchdown-resulting blocks were the second-best total in the league, topped only by Michigan’s All-American tackle Jake Long (17), who was the first pick of the 2008 NFL Draft by Miami.
Cadogan was dominant as a senior. He joined Wisconsin All-American offensive tackle Joe Thomas (2006) as the only offensive linemen in league history to record seven blocking consistency grades of 90% or better in 2008. He led the team with an 89.54% blocking grade, producing 106 knockdowns/key blocks and 23 touchdown-resulting blocks.
Compares To: JAMMAL BROWN, New Orleans — Cadogan’s quickness off the snap and confidence in his hands improved greatly in 2008. With his confidence gaining in leaps and bounds, he could be one of the bigger surprises among senior draft prospects, but might be a better fit at offensive guard or right tackle.”
Post Combine:
“Penn State’s Gerald Cadogan (6’ 5” 309 lbs) is quietly becoming an excellent NFL Draft Prospect. A possible steal in the 3rd or 4th round, he ran a nice 5.12 forty and has incredibly long arms at 35”.”
“Gerald Cadogan/OT/Penn State: Scouts always considered Cadogan a solid athlete and he proved them correct today. Cadogan posted times of 5.03 and 5.07 in the 40 and looked very athletic on the field. His bench press total of 26 repetitions was a positive sign for those critical of his strength.”
April 10th, 2009 at 8:53 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Mark Schlereth is a donk homer. He still bleeds orange and blue and it makes me sick listening to him
Rock Hoover may not always be right but he speaks his mind and he doesn’t pull any punches on the Broncos. I wouldn’t call him a homer just because he played for them
April 10th, 2009 at 8:53 am
This is what I am hoping for:
DET-Stafford
Rams-J. Smith
KC-Curry
Seattle-Monroe
Browns-Orakpo
Bungholes-Crabtree
Raiders-Smith
Jags-Sanchez
April 10th, 2009 at 8:55 am
[...] [Raiders] Ex-Raiders DE Warren Sapp Rips Head Coach Tom Cable Warren Sapp held an chat on NFL.com Thursday and while he paid a glowing tribute to Al Davis, he apparently doesnt think much of the ability of his former boss to select a coach. "Tom Cable couldnt lead the Raiders to a picnic in his own back yard." Asked about the Raiders draft, Sapp said, My people in Oakland are talking about picking something crazy like a safety. So dont be surprised if they do something you dont like in Oakland. Source: Contra Costa Times [...]
April 10th, 2009 at 8:58 am
assuming the Raiders don’t trade out of the #7 spot…
if we go offense we’ll get one of the following:
A. Smith, Oher, Crabtree or Maclin
if we go defense we’ll get one of the following:
Curry, Orakpo, E. Brown or Raji
so no matter what we’re getting a great player that fills a need!
April 10th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Dakota
Cincy spend 2nd and 3rd round picks last year in WR’s Jerome Simpson and Andre Caldwell, they still have Chad Johnson, Chris Henry and signed Laveranues Coles.
They need an OT as badly as any team in the league, they can’t afford to pass on Andre Smith, IMO.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:04 am
This is what I am hoping for:
DET-Stafford
Rams-J. Smith
KC-Curry
Seattle-Monroe
Browns-Orakpo
Bungholes-Crabtree
Raiders-Smith
Jags-Sanchez
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swap Crabtree & Orakpo in this mock and you could be right on!
Bungles go defense with Osackpo or Raji
If the Browns take Orakpo the Bengals will take Raji, Malalala or Jenkins
It’ll be interesting if the Raiders have their choice of Andre Smith, Crabtree & Raji.
Raider fans everywhere would be going crazy until the commish made the announcement!
April 10th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Yeah, like the top tackles in the draft is not even on Wes Bunting’s list. Ummh, I guess they are not athletic enough to play in the ZBS and aren’t a better fit than “which way did the DE go” Henderson at LT, Khalif the 2nd coming of “Turnstile” Harris, nor would Andre Smith the same size as Barnes but with quicker feet be a better fit at RT tackle than Green or Pears, tackles that are rejects from other teams.
I like Cable so far as a play caller but when he brought in “Turnstile” to play LT his credibility went out the window. What’s more, from what I read Cable wanted Barnes right away but Al made him wait and when no one else wanted him, Al signed Barnes for a one year contract to minimize the risk.
Satele is much the same deal at center, a reject from Bill Parcels. The “O” line in Oakland is far from the quality that it will take to get back to the playoffs. I am tired of the Shawn Merrimans and the defenses of the better teams in the league owning our offense.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:14 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Saw the big improvement in the 2nd half when he got more aggressive. Like to see how he’s does against the Blazer’s and Mr. Injury Greg Oden. If we don’t get home court against the Cavs, it will be because of Portland.
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Count on it Blazers 106 Laker 98
Brandon Roy 25 pts 6 asst 4 reb (W)
Kobe Bryant 38 4 asst 6 rebs (L)
The west has been took over get used to it!!!!!!
Ohhh That includes the AFC WEST as Well sorry……
O-line for ‘09
April 10th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Rockstar,
You say the Chiefs have so many holes. With the exception of the Seahawks, couldnt you say that about all the teams in the top 7? The Raiders have as many holes as any team.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Bob, I forgot that the Bungholes signed Coles, that does make it unlikely they would draft a WR…unless Ochodipschito isn’t in their long-term plans.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Javon Walker…
How much we paying him this year?
Are we keeping him?
Would we draft Crabtree and flank Walker with him???
Will we continue to pay Walker to sit??
Cut him during camp???
If we keep Walker going into the draft, WTheF would draft a WR at #7 and pay big bucks???
Understandably, Crabtree is better than Walker, but dealing in business sense (and not Madden Land) is Al really going to pay big bucks to two WRs at the same time??
April 10th, 2009 at 9:27 am
Morning Nation.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:28 am
Revised:
This is what I am hoping for:
DET-Stafford
Rams-J. Smith
KC-Curry
Seattle-Monroe
Browns-Orakpo
Bungholes-Crabtree (After Bungholes trade Ocho Stinko to Giants in draft day trade)
Raiders-Smith
Jags-Sanchez
April 10th, 2009 at 9:28 am
Is he gonna pay big bucks to 4 Dlineman at the same time?
Walker doesnt make as big a bucks as he did before. WR will be the pick.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:30 am
You say the Chiefs have so many holes. With the exception of the Seahawks, couldnt you say that about all the teams in the top 7? The Raiders have as many holes as any team.
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Dude: you missed the point. Every team in the league has holes, even Pittsburg. KC just has more holes than every other team in the NFL. They could draft just about any player and it would be an improvement over that position group
April 10th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Dakota,
Wheres smith gonna play? T? No. Henderson, Barnes and Pears will battle for the 2 spots. G? No. Gallery and Carlise are entrenched. Where??
April 10th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Walker restructured his contract. So did Fargas, Warren, TK, and Gallery.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:32 am
They have more holes than the Raiders? Lions? Bengals?
April 10th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Dude-with ya on that one…prefer we don’t take a DT in the first and take Brace in the 2nd to pair with Kelly so Sands can be cut.
With the #7 pick, Raiders select DE….
April 10th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Javon Walker isn’t making the big bucks anymore. He restructured his contact BIGTIME. Now he makes average money, which is fitting for the average player he is. Javon Walker is a FA bust, and should not be factored into the equasion when you discuss our need at the WR position. I think we SHOULD take Crabtree. He would make our offense a lot better instantly. I think we WILL take Maclin, and he will be anywhere from an all out bust to a mediocre player that we try to force the ball to in an attempt to justify the insane decision to draft him over Crabtree. If Crab isn’t there then I would take Raji, and if bnoth are gone, then I take A. Smith. One of those 3 should be there, and selecting aybody else with the #7 pick is inexcusably stupid IMO. Unless of course by some miracle Curry or Monroe or J. Smith fall into our laps. If I was Al, I might even look into trading up into St. Louis’ spot so we could jump the Chiefs and steal Curry.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:36 am
The Defensive Tackles got slaughtered yesteday by Casserly and Mayock on NFLN.
Jarron Gilbert: Boom or bust, inconsistent both vs the run and the pass, Casserly and Maycok said they have heard some teams feel he could be moved to LT because he lacks the aggressiveness needed to play DL, could go anywhere from 2nd to 4th round.
Ron Brace: In any other year he would be a 4th or 5th round pick, hard to move but that’s it, his best asset is playing the run, but he doesn’t even do that consistently.
Ziggy Hood: Horrible vs the run, easily manhandled at the point on running downs.
Sen’derrick Marks: relies mostly on quickness, if he doesn’t get past the OL with his first step, he’s done.
Moala, prototypical built, still must match talent level with productivity.
B.J. Raji
Mayock, still loves him, said he should go in the top 10, but if drug rumors are true, all bets are off.
Casserly, said that when you watch the BC tape, you realize he played only 50 to 60 percent of snaps, that he was platooned and will be so in the nfl, that you need to put a weight clause on his contract to protect yourself.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Hello and happy Good Friday to all of my friends here,..draft Rey at 7.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Walker doesnt make as big a bucks as he did before. WR will be the pick.
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good point Dude. Walker went from making $10 million to $2 million. We now have the lowest paid and the least productive WR corps in the league
All Al Davis has to do is watch all 10 highlights from Higgins, Schilens & Walker last year, which will take 2 minutes and say “thats it?”
Even S&B (who does NOT want a WR in Round 1) acknowledges that the Raiders don’t have a #1 WR … I think Davis/Cable and 75 percent of Raider fans think Russell should have a go to guy in the WR corps to be successful
Relying on Walker/Higgins/Schilens/Shields for a WR corps is almost as bad as relying on Henderson/Barnes/Johnson/Pears to man the tackle positions.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:38 am
They also agreed that no player in this Draft comes close to a Glenn Dorsey or Sedrick Ellis from last year.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Im also ok with BJ Raji at 7,..and I advocate pot use, I smoke it, I think it should be as legal as aspirin.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:40 am
Dude,
Smith would play one of the two tackle spots. This isn’t rocket science. The staff obviously doesn’t think much of Henderson, bringing in Barnes to compete with him, and Barnes himself has a one year low salary deal that would make it very easy to bench him. You don’t pass on a franchise tackle in favor of a castoff tackle with a one year contract. I am not even going to bother addressing Pears.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:40 am
I never once heard ellis or dorsey mentioned,..doubt they either one made any plays,…probably played ok,…but dorsey was taken what 5th?…he should have been mentioned more.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Simple logic:
Signed a slew of OL in offseason. Not the pick.
DT is full of ovepriced vets. None will be cut. Not pik
RB- Nope.
DB- No one worth top 10. Nope.
QB- Nope.
LB- Only if Curry falls, which he wont. Nope.
Only two possibilities. DE and WR. Only DE worth it is Orakpo and NO WAY they take another Texas guy.
WR is the pick. Guaranteeed
April 10th, 2009 at 9:41 am
They have more holes than the Raiders? Lions? Bengals?
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yes. KC has more holes than the Raiders, Bengals & Lions
BY FAR!
just look at the rosters Dude, I shouldn’t have to explain it to you. In fact I’m not going to
April 10th, 2009 at 9:41 am
I would take andre smith myself,…hells ya.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Maybe Sapp thinks AL will draft Malcolm Jenkins to play safety at #7. But Sapp is right about one thing, I have not liked most of Al’s drafts and poor draft picks are a huge reason for having lost eleven plus games for six straight seasons. The war is won in the trenches first.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Vold its silly to have it illegal,..maks no sense,..looking forward to A`s opener tonight,..think Brien is gonna show up at our tailgate.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Narco Bob,
How was your Passover. Did you have your Seder? I think that’s what it’s called.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Henderson is playing one of those spots. Period.
Barnes is playing the other.
Pears is depth.
If they had any thoughts of taking a OL at 7 they wouldnt have signed those guys. First rd OL play right away and there is no spots available. OL=no chance.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:45 am
1- Raji/ Orakpo/ Monroe if he was available
2- M Johnson/ Ayers/Jarron Gilbert/ Brace/ Moore
3- Ramses B/ Bruton/ OSU Freeman/ Samie
4- J Williams/ T Taylor
April 10th, 2009 at 9:45 am
I hope we get a home game this year on the nfl network,..cant wait to heckle fat stupid sapp when they all on that desk in the corner of the black holes endzone,…my seats are in north endzone but will walk over there to have a few words.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:46 am
You arent gonna explain it cause you cant. Its a stupid statement. Lions Raiders and Bengals have as many if not more holes than the Chiefs.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:47 am
exla,..I did give up hard liquor for Lent,…getting sick of beer.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Dude Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Henderson is playing one of those spots. Period.
Barnes is playing the other.
Pears is depth.
If they had any thoughts of taking a OL at 7 they wouldnt have signed those guys. First rd OL play right away and there is no spots available. OL=no chance.
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lol, you were probably one of those guys that said no way we take a RB last year after Fargas was re-signed.
If we do take a WR we might as well pencil ourselves in for another 6-10 season.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Its funny how some in here like Dakota have to attach others posts to theirs, to make some point, then they fail to even do that,..lol.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Im goin ot Nine inch nails at Arco soon….won tix on 98.5.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Norco have you ever seen Trent Reznor?
Great performer!!
April 10th, 2009 at 9:51 am
BART,..same scenario as Sapp was in out of Miami,…somewhat short,…fat,..toker,..he did ok dont you agree?
April 10th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Is WR not a need position son?
Shouldnt a number 1 overall pick QB be given a playmaker to throw to?
Dont get it twisted boy. I am not saying the guys they signed or have at OL are good. But they are the guys they are going with. End of story.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Its a stupid statement.
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you’re too lazy to go look at the rosters. my point is valid. it’s not even a serious issue. don’t know why you’re defending KC unless you’re a KC fan. debate ends here. I win unless you can prove your point
prove to us Raider fans that the Raiders have “just as many holes, if not more” than the chefs, bungles and Lions
we could all use a good laugh this morning
April 10th, 2009 at 9:53 am
All I know is this. if you are picking before the Raiders, You have more needs.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:53 am
666 I saw Nine inch nails,..like 15 years ago,..metal festival,..Megadeth,..Ninie inch nails,..Slayer,..KORN,…actually nine inch nails was the worst of them but not terrible….not true metal band, they shouldnt have been there,..KORN is odd too, not really metal.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Norco Bob Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Its funny how some in here like Dakota……
He’s cool with me!!!!
Go Blazers!!!
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April 10th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Oh yeah, OL guys play the whole game. 2 or 3 RBs get touches every game. Big diff
April 10th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Son and boy? Lol
April 10th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Tomorrow AC/DC tix go on sale for a show in september at the shark tank…Im getting 4.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:55 am
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April 10th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Seahawks are picking before the Raiders. They dont have more needs. Theyre at 4 because of a flukeish season. Nice try.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Norco Bob
One of the best Metal shows I have ever seen was Ministry!!
April 10th, 2009 at 9:57 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Its a stupid statement.
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you’re too lazy to go look at the rosters.
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I Agree with out even looking at the roster i can tell you we have a better corner RB TE QB then all the above mentioned except Plamer of course but he is looking more and more mediocore every year… the only players those teams have we dnt is WR’s D. Bowe, Ocho stinko, Calvin johnson…. other than that our roster is in waaaayyyy better shape then those few above mentioned teams!!!
O-line for ‘09
April 10th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Seahawks are picking before the Raiders. They dont have more needs. Theyre at 4 because of a flukeish season. Nice try.
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the birds could go Stafford, Curry, Monroe, Smith, Orakpo or Raji
Jenkins, Moreno or Wells would be a reach
April 10th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Raiders weakness’s- WR, DT, DE, OL, S, OLB
Chiefs- CB, S, DE, DL, LB
April 10th, 2009 at 10:00 am
…the Bengals are drafting Raji who they coached at the Senior Bowl.
and we jump ASmith who was a clear cut top three pick before taking off his shirt and seal the left side for years to come.
i like what Cables trying on the line btw… if you look at the roster, we dont have a true Guard no more xcept Carlile.
we will line up four Tackles plus Satele and take the Zone to another level while running it with more speed and athleticism. and most importantly our line will be ready athletically for the four LB looks, stunts adn blitzes they will face in the passing game with all these 34 defenses in our division…
April 10th, 2009 at 10:00 am
I think Ministy is playing somewhere this weekend, Kive Nation sent me a heads up,..seen them before…they ok…best metal band imo is Megadeth,..but I like bands like GWAR too.
April 10th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Dude Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Seahawks are picking before the Raiders.They dont have more needs. Theyre at 4 because of a flukeish season. Nice try.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 9:30 am
You say the Chiefs have so many holes. With the exception of the Seahawks, couldnt you say that about all the teams in the top 7? The Raiders have as many holes as any team.
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Im just sayin…….read b4 you aruge!!
O-line for ‘09
April 10th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Dude,
I agree that we need a WR, but you only take a WR in the top ten if there is a greeat chance they are going to be special. I have my doubts about Crabtree and Maclin.
You might be right that we pick a WR, I just hope you are wrong because it will set us back just that much further. Drafting a WR without a decent o-line is like putting a $2000 sound system in a Ford Escort.
April 10th, 2009 at 10:01 am
BBB,
I agree. There in no reason, not even pot, that should effect his education and shape. I smoke pot, and I have a great GPA at SDSU. You can be lazy, Fat, Ignorant, and not smoke Pot.
April 10th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Live Nation.
April 10th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Larry Johnson, Kolby Smith, Gonzales, Cassell
Fargas, McFadden, Miller, Russell
What spots are the Raiders better?
April 10th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Norco,
The difference is that Warren Sapp doesn’t look like he is hiding walnuts in his cheeks. Raji is straight FAT, Sapp is about the same height, if not taller and was like 300 even. Raji is in the 330 range, with a buddha belly and man-boobs. and don’t tell me that Raji is big-boned, I saw his brother in March Madness, looked like he weighed two bills. It’s not the pot issue, it’s that Raji comes off as undiscliplined physically and mentally; a lot of people can smoke all day and handle their sh*t, but plenty of others can’t.
April 10th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Tried watching the masters,..how can people watch golf on tv?…awful,..maybe its ok if there, walking around with a beer.
April 10th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Im out, later. Gotta get my Catfish jersy out, get ready for tonights opener….get the grill out, couple cases of beer, bag of grass…
April 10th, 2009 at 10:04 am
As a rule, top 7 teams have tons of holes. There are always exceptions to the rules. I HATE the Seahawks but I can see they had a fluky season last year.
April 10th, 2009 at 10:07 am
strange “Raider” convesations today
April 10th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Dude,
At least we can agree on one thing: the Raiders’ future is now much brighter than the Broncos’.
right?
April 10th, 2009 at 10:09 am
KC needs: WR, OL, S, CB, DE/ DT depends on what Tank and Dorsey can do, ILB, and OLB. The only positions they don’t need are: QB, RB, and TE.
April 10th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Dude Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Larry Johnson, Kolby Smith, Gonzales, Cassell
Fargas, McFadden, Miller, Russell
What spots are the Raiders better?
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Larry johnso…(on his last wheel and on the way out)
Bush&Mcfadden…(New wheels here to stay)
atvantage Riaduuuuhs!!!
Gonzalez…aging vet who wantsa out and has become an extension of the Oline ever since willie who ever thier styd LT was retired… or miller a young allpro TE with more potentional….
Atvantage Raiduuuuuhs!!!
Russel& Cassel toss up But i’m a way bigger fan of Russels having more success than cassel…but as far as roster goes if we lose russel GOD forbid!!! we have Garcia…
Atvantage Raiduuuuas…
Namdi Aso….well Ithink you see were i’m going with this… we are a beeter all around roster then the Chiefs… Sorry Bro
O-line for ‘09
April 10th, 2009 at 10:11 am
strange “Raider” convesations today
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sorry ASLJ. i’ll get off my soap box.
it’s time for lunch anyways!
your initials almost came out to ACLU. yikes! (speaking of hell…) haha
April 10th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Since KC will go with a 3-4 Defense, they need more LBs. They got Johnson, and a 33 yr OLB. They need 2 more OLBs and 1 ILB now.
April 10th, 2009 at 10:14 am
we are taking Crabtree or Fat Tits Smith.. in that order.
April 10th, 2009 at 10:15 am
KC will take Curry
April 10th, 2009 at 10:15 am
RaiderRockstar
No your not close at all but you have a typical chistian narrow minded out look on anything other than what you were taught to believe.
Look at the statistics 70% of people with an advanced degrees know that we evolved and do not subscribe to your teachings.
Doctors and PHD’s are hardly little Gothic kids that dress in black and are outcasts of society. Which is exactly what your religion teaches to make all non believes outcasts.
Wake up man its not 1950 anymore you are still subscribing to your grandmothers teachings. Computers are evil and so is dancing blah blah its 2009 dude and your stuck in 1950.
April 10th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Broncos needs:
1- an entire new Defense.
2- every position on Offense but WR and LT.
LMAO
April 10th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Ok man. Wow. You REALLY look at things through Raider colored glasses. Russell has more success than Cassell?? That must be a joke. Funny, Funny.
The Chiefs suck, but as a Raider fan, saying that is like throwing stones from a glass house.
Bush is a 3rd stringer, thats why I didnt add him.
April 10th, 2009 at 10:18 am
come on jerry make with the fix….
April 10th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Dont know about your Bronco take. They have like 8 picks in the top 60 this year. You can fix alot of holes with that many picks.
April 10th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Dude is right, KC and Oakland will rule the division for the next decade.
Broncos are toast.
Chargers are right behind them in the free fall.
April 10th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Bush is the man dude!
April 10th, 2009 at 10:20 am
I wish I can be stuck in the 50s. I like the culture, music, cars, and clothes.
April 10th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Back to Football:
I say we take Robert Ayers and forget all this avoiding Tennessee bull crap!!
April 10th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Duder,
No bro I never said…”Russell has more success than Cassell?? ” I said…”Russel& Cassel toss up But i’m a way bigger fan of Russels having more success than cassel…but as far as roster goes if we lose russel GOD forbid!!! we have Garcia…”
Atvantage Raiduuuuas…
Which means I think its a TOSS UP ie above/ and I would be a bigger fan of russel HAVING more sucsess than Cassel… NOt sayin he has been more sucsessful…
But yes we can agree on one thing the donks really F-ed up!!! LOL
O-line for ‘09
April 10th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Raider O LOL
What about Elvis!!!
April 10th, 2009 at 10:22 am
ok…. Chargers obviously win the div… then maybe us k.c or denver…
April 10th, 2009 at 10:22 am
new post up
April 10th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Robert Ayers?? overrated.. we have whats his name
April 10th, 2009 at 10:24 am
408,
I don’t usually see you here in the mornings! Glad you are here.
April 10th, 2009 at 10:26 am
and oh yeah pot is supposedly more evil than alcohol.
Where do you people (christians) get these ideals?
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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention did that study. Where does it say anything about Christians? Your hatred for believers in Christ has consumed you. It’s always the people who claim to be Christians that are really terrible people or hypocrits that give the real ones a bad rep.
You must have been molested by a priest or something as a child. And if you want to know why “educated people” beleive in big bang/evolution and not Christianity it’s because that’s what they learn in school. It’s taught as fact (which is a lie), rather than theory.
April 10th, 2009 at 10:27 am
RRS,
Aren’t you jesus freaks supposed to be kind, turn the other cheek and all that? I guess you just can’t comprehend that some normal, productive members of society somehow don’t believe in a long-dead carpenter being our personal savior. To each his own my friend, and for the record; “science hasn’t proved anything” does nothing to negate the fact that christianity hasn’t proved anything either. Now can we discuss the Raiders, or are you gonna be constantly trying to bring us into the flock.
April 10th, 2009 at 10:30 am
thanx O…
3 day weekend….
April 10th, 2009 at 10:31 am
why are you people here??????
RAIDERS!!!!!!
April 10th, 2009 at 10:37 am
What do you mean their is NO Santa Claus???
April 10th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Aren’t you jesus freaks supposed to be kind, turn the other cheek and all that?
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turn the other cheek? nobody punched me. having a backbone and a reason for what you beleive is important. Jesus offended many people, especially the religious leaders who wanted him crucified. sometimes the truth offends people. they don’t like to hear it. they are comfortable living in sin and would do anything that “makes them happy”
Why do you things drugs & alcohol and porn addictions are so common?
people are searching for joy, peace, love, hope, satisfaction and true happiness. these these can’t be found in the world and since people reject God they resort to distructive habits that end up making them miserable in the long run.
“jesus freak” was a term by DC Talk (a christian rock band) I don’t consider myself a freak for my personal beliefs, but if you wish to use insults go ahead. doesn’t prove a point.
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