Raiders not in Madden’s fulltime plans
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, April 16th, 2009 at 7:27 pm in Oakland Raiders.
John Madden told Bay Area News Group-East Bay columnist Cam Inman Thursday he had no plans to become a consultant for the Raiders, nor was he planning on becoming involved in ownership.
“No, uh uh,” Madden replied when asked if he’s interested in becoming a consultant for the Raiders.
As for succeeding Davis and owning the Raiders: “No, uh uh. As an owner, no. As a fan, I’ll be able to go to more games.”
Which doesn’t mean Madden won’t have some influence. He considers Davis one of his closest friends and the two will have more time to talk. It’s just that with Madden turning 73, it was a pipe dream to think he would ever get into the fulltime grinder of NFL management _ especially since all his expertise was as a coach.
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April 16th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
mock draft
1. best OT available
2. best dl available
3. best lb available
4. best s available
7. best player available
April 16th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
a lady makes deer meat and calls the kids down to eat the son asks what it is and the mom says its your dads favorite so the son says its pu$sy dont eat it
April 16th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
: Purdue defensive tackle Alex Magee visited the Raiders on Thursday, as did at least three unidentified offensive lineman, a team source said.
Magee moved to defensive end as a senior but he’s more of an interior lineman. His size (6-3, 298 pounds), versatility and room to grow reminds are seen as plusses.
April 16th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
If Smith or Oher is one of the Caddys, then I’m down with picking either one.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Damn! That guy on the Ducks just took a skate to the face! Hockey is ROUGH!
Sharks!
April 16th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Madden is just too old.
The guy that Al Davis was referring to as a “front office/personnel hire” is going to be Steve Wisnewski.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Mark Sanchez at 7. What’s it worth to ya? Hell, I’d even take some of the Donks picks and smile all the way to the bank with more of our needs filled.
And if you want a good laugh, check out Fat Bill Williamson’s chat today where he predicts the Chefs make the playoffs again before the Raiders.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Al Davis at 79 and Madden at 73 does not fix the long term problem. We just need a successor for when Al hits the dirt.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
1- Orakpo/ A Smith/ Raji/ or Maclin. In that order
2- M Johnson/ Ramses Barden
3- Bruton/ Vaughn
4- Dorell Scott, Sammie Lee, Khalif Mitchell, or T Taylor.
7- Russell Allen, or Ty Sales.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
http://football.ballparks.com/NFL/SanFrancisco49ers/newindex.htm
An idea drawing of the 49ers new stadium in Santa Clara. This could be a shared stadium with the Raiders, which is why I’m pointing it out.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
No magee for me.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Raider O – These constant mock drafts are maddening. You’re crazy. =)
April 16th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Its like you’re addicted.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Magee scouting report is disturbing.
It days: he is weak against the run, and can’t shed blocks. Doesn’t demand double teams.
I pass on him.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
24
I would be much happier if they just upgraded the current location once the A’s leave the facility. Upgrades including an onsite Raiders/A’s/Warriors/East Bay Area Sports Hall of Fame/Museum.
When I dream, I dream big. And in color…
April 16th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
I’m crazy, and my DR thinks I have OCD.
I get it right before the Draft every year. lol
April 16th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Why not Dogg? Hell, they redid Soldier Field and left the columns in place. It could be done, and would be a lot cheaper. Besides, all the chatter about shared stadiums like the New Meadowlands stadium doesn’t take into account the lack of available and affordable land in the NY area. Niners and Raiders should have their own stadiums.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
24,
I can’t help it bro. This my favorite time of the season. Almost as good as the SB.
I’m sorry if I’m driving you guys crazy with all these drafts, but I love talking about the draft.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Here’s my draft prediction…
1. Every team will get some new players.
2. Some will be good players, some won’t.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Updated Mock from the SportingNews War Room:
MOCK DRAFT: ROUND 1
PICK TEAM PLAYER POS SCHOOL
1 (1) Lions Matthew Stafford* QB Georgia
The Lions might really be debating whether to take a QB or not, but it makes sense for them to grab Stafford because they have some offensive talent and without a good QB you have no chance.
2 (2) Rams Jason Smith T Baylor
Orlando Pace is gone and Alex Barron has never become the OT they hoped he would, so they jump on the super-athletic and highly competitive Smith to help protect Marc Bulger.
3 (3) Chiefs Brian Orakpo DE Texas
The Chiefs will play a 3-4 with 4-3 looks in 2009. Orakpo is better against the run than Everette Brown, so they grab him here to help them get pressure on the QB.
4 (4) Seahawks Eugene Monroe T Va.
Walter Jones is getting old and is coming off micro-fracture surgery, so Monroe makes a ton of sense to start at RT in 2009 and eventually at LT.
5 (5) Browns Michael Crabtree* WR Tex. Tech
With Kellen Winslow traded and Braylon Edwards the next to go the Browns need a receiver for Brady Quinn (or Derek Anderson) as a go-to guy.
6 (6) Bengals Everette Brown* DE Florida St.
The Bengals spent big money trying to upgrade their pass rush without success, so they jump on the draft’s most polished pass rusher to help them improve.
7 (7) Raiders Aaron Curry OLB Wake For.
The Raiders are not desperate for a linebacker, but Curry has the speed Al Davis loves and has the tools to be a productive three-down player.
8 (8) Jaguars Jeremy Maclin* WR Missouri
The offense was held back by a lack of quality receivers in recent seasons. Maclin gives them a big-play receiver and returner.
9 (9) Packers B.J. Raji DT Boston Coll.
Even with rumors flying about Raji, the Packers need a nose tackle to make their 3-4 work. Raji is the only elite prospect in the draft.
10 (10) 49ers Rey Maualuga ILB USC
Having decided that Alex Smith is their QB, they grab the big, physical and explosive Maualuga to play inside next to Patrick Willis. This would give them the best inside linebacker combo of any 3-4 team.
11 (11) Bills Robert Ayers DE Tennessee
Their defense struggled to pressure quarterbacks with try-hard ends, so they jump on Ayers. His versatility and pass-rush moves give him the tools to be highly productive.
12 (12) Broncos Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St.
Rumors say they tried to trade Tony Scheffler because he is not a blocker, which makes taking Pettigrew here a no-brainer. He is an elite blocker with solid receiving skills.
13 (13) Redskins Andre Smith* T Alabama
Offensive line help is critical, and Dan Snyder loves grabbing the big name. They gamble on Smith, who would have been the top tackle if he had handled the spring well.
14 (14) Saints Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio St.
Their secondary was a disaster in 2008, so they grab the tall, versatile and athletic Jenkins to help solve their issues.
15 (15) Texans Brian Cushing OLB USC
They cannot pass on the chance to grab Cushing, who brings versatility and athleticism to the linebacker corps.
16 (16) Chargers Chris ‘Beanie’ Wells* RB Ohio St.
LaDainian Tomlinson’s days are numbered and Darren Sproles is not a starter. So they grab Wells to become featured back in 2010.
17 (17) Jets Mark Sanchez* QB USC
They must find quarterback, and Sanchez looks like a star who is used to dealing with a lot of media. He should be able to handle the New York media.
18 (18) Broncos Eben Britton* T Arizona
(from Chicago) After hitting a home run with Ryan Clady last year, the Broncos get Britten to give them two top tackles for the next decade.
19 (19) Buccaneers Fili Moala DT USC
Jovan Haye is gone, and Moala brings them an athletic, strong and competitive defensive tackle to replace him.
20 (20) Lions Peria Jerry DT Ole Miss
(from Dallas) The Lions want to grab a defensive and won’t have to debate over which one after Moala goes the pick before. Jerry is strong and athletic. He will be an immediate upgrade.
21 (21) Eagles Michael Oher T Ole Miss
Tra Thomas is gone and they need a tackle, so they gamble that they can coach the inconsistency out of Oher.
22 (22) Vikings Darrius Heyward-Bey* WR Maryland
They really wanted Oher, but with him gone they grab this big receiver to upgrade their passing attack.
23 (23) Patriots Knowshon Moreno* RB Georgia
Fred Taylor is near the end and Laurence Maroney can’t stay healthy. So they grab Moreno, a big, strong inside runner who also has great hands as a receiver.
24 (24) Falcons Larry English DE Northern Ill.
John Abraham is a great pass rusher. Putting English on the other side would let them bring pressure from both sides.
25 (25) Dolphins Clint Sintim ILB Va.
They want to upgrade at inside linebacker. Sintim is a big, physical inside force who would be a solid fit in their scheme while playing next to Channing Crowder.
26 (26) Ravens Kenny Britt* WR Rutgers
They need a receiver to go with Derrick Mason. Britt gives them a tall, explosive playmaker who can take advantage of Joe Flacco’s passing.
27 (27) Colts Evander ‘Ziggy’ Hood DT Missouri
They must upgrade their rush defense. Hood gives them the athletic, disruptive interior force they like and should be able to start as a rookie.
28 (28) Eagles Jared Cook* TE S. Carolina
(from Carolina) L.J. Smith left as a free agent and they don’t have a big-play receiving tight end to replace him, so they jump at the chance to get Cook, who is fast and explosive.
29 (29) Giants James Laurinaitis ILB Ohio St.
After signing Michael Boley to help at outside linebacker, they jump on Laurinaitis. Antonio Pierce is getting old and likely will be a free again soon.
30 (30) Titans Alphonso Smith CB Wake For.
They want a receiver, but there isn’t one good enough to pass up on Smith, who fills another big need.
31 (31) Cardinals Donald Brown* RB UConn
This is a need pick. Edgerrin James is getting old and Tim Hightower is best suited to be a backup/change-of-pace back.
32 (32) Steelers Tyson Jackson DE LSU
Age is catching up with their defensive linemen, and they have little in the way of young backups. They jump on Jackson, who fits their scheme.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Here is my draft prediction:
The raiders trade the 7th for Denver or the Eagles.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Howie Longs Flattop
Right on brother.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
I can live with Curry. The best player in this draft. lol
April 16th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Raider75 Says:
April 16th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Here’s my draft prediction…
1. Every team will get some new players.
2. Some will be good players, some won’t.”
Looks like you’ve done your research bro, nice job. I will be copying this list down just to have on draft day to see how close you are.
I have a feeling you will be dead on. Just a hunch.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Here’s what they say our pick will be:
2009 Mock draft board
Rd. Pick Player Pos. School
1 7 (7) A. Curry OLB Wake For.
2 8 (40) P. Harvin WR Florida
3 7 (71) L. Sidbury Jr. DE Richmond
4 26 (126) A. Parrish T Kent State
7 7 (216) C. Clemons S Clemson
April 16th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
I don’t see Curry lasting that long, but I would take it.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Donkeys picks:
2009 Mock draft board
Rd. Pick Player Pos. School
1 12 (12) B. Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St.
1 18 (18) E. Britton T Arizona
2 16 (48) R. Brace DT Boston Coll.
3 15 (79) P. Chung S Oregon
3 20 (84) P. Turner WR USC
4 14 (114) Z. Follett OLB Cal
5 13 (149) J. Ringer RB Michigan St.
6 12 (185) G. Harrell QB Tex. Tech
7 16 (225) S. McKillop ILB Pitt
7 26 (235) J. Simmons WR W. Michigan
April 16th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Yeh, Jerry, we wouldn’t want to let someone with mere coaching experience get in the way of our finely tuned upper management machine. These guys have bullied you into submission, Jerry. I liked this blog back when it was yours.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Chiefs picks:
2009 Mock draft board
Rd. Pick Player Pos. School
1 3 (3) B. Orakpo DE Texas
3 3 (67) A. Levitre G Oregon St.
4 2 (102) J. Dillard WR Rice
5 3 (139) C. Harris CB USC
6 2 (175) D. Buehler K USC
7 3 (212) I. Johnson RB Boise St.
7 47 (256) J. Cook FB Ole Miss
April 16th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
I like their draft.
I would change Harvin with Ramses Barden.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
“The guy that Al Davis was referring to as a “front office/personnel hire” is going to be Steve Wisnewski.”
OMG… Only us.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Chargers picks:
2009 Mock draft board
Rd. Pick Player Pos. School
1 16 (16) C. Wells RB Ohio St.
3 14 (78) T. Lang T Eastern Mich.
4 13 (113) C. Vaughn S Wake For.
4 33 (133) M. Bennett ILB Tex. A&M
4 34 (134) M. Massaquoi WR Georgia
5 12 (148) K. Moore DE USC
6 16 (189) P. Hunt OLB Houston
7 15 (224) N. Moffett DE Florida St.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Hey, when you guys say that Madden isn’t a “long term solution”, I’m wondering, a solution to what? Do we have problems? I thought everything was set. Thought we were just a couple of players away from being back on the top tier.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
MR
Don’t kill the messenger now. This is something that I heard, not something I created.
How have you been these days?
April 16th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
If Madden wants to get out of the house, he can always hangout at Raiders training camp in Napa for a few days. Or Give a speech in the locker room. Or whisper pointers in Cables ear.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Kell’s got the right idea. Madden doesn’t have to be on the payroll to be a positive influence.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Sup NATION…
MR,KK,Dogg,O,504…
Yall know Im screaming Go SHARKS!! This game is giving me a heart attack….
April 16th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
What up 408!
Lots of good hittin’ going on. Too bad they haven’t been able to capitalize on the power plays yet.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
408,
The draft is driving me crazy.
Post your complete mock draft, and let’s take a look at it.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
o
THEY BETTER DO SOMETHING OR iM gonna miss it.. been drinking since 16:00 PST…
April 16th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
O…
Mean Nasty Linemen…. O or D I dont care as long as theyre mean and nasty!!!
April 16th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Best time of the year 408. Stanley Cup Playoffs, NFL Draft, Start of the MLB season, and warm weather=women wearing less.
And I guess something’s going on with the NBA too, if you like that crap.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
I want dude with the flappy titties (Smith) in the first round..
April 16th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
# Howie Longs Flattop Says:
April 16th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Best time of the year 408. Stanley Cup Playoffs, NFL Draft, Start of the MLB season, and warm weather=women wearing less.
And I guess something’s going on with the NBA too, if you like that crap.
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Nice handle HFT…I dont like NBA unless my warriors are in the hunt so its whatever..
April 16th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Yeah, I’m all for getting a Cadillac with a side of Flapjacks in the first too.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Dogg if we dont score soon Im gonna break something…. Now is the time 4 the sharks 2 step up!!! AHHHHHHHHH !!
April 16th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
HFT=HLF
cool name ….
April 16th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Raider 0, post 21:
No way we trade our seventh pick in the first round to Denver, a division rival and a team hated by Davis.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
408,
I like A Smith.
We should draft a fee linemen O and D. More on D. IMO.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
I feel bad for all you Sharks fans out there on the Left coast. This is the best series in the first round in either conference, and it ain’t gonna be easy for either team to get out of this round. Nonstop heart palpitations for the fans.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
We traded for warren from Denver.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Hey thanks 408. Stole the idea from Buccigross on ESPN. He recommended some guy name his beer league puck team “Cam Neely’s Fist”. Love it.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
O
yep as long as they are some mean MoFo’s… As long as we dont draft the fastest DB Ill be happy!!!
April 16th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
504
Great Draft…..Sidbury is highly underrated and will be a beast in the league.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
# Raider O Says:
April 16th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
We traded for warren from Denver.
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exactly Ufck the donkeys…
April 16th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Have you guys watched foxnews lately? Scary. I think right wingers are going to start a revolution. A real one. Like with real guns. They’re scaring me. My god. They lose one election, and that’s it. What a bunch of babies. Oh well. It’ll be fun watching the national guard wipe the floor with them if they try it. Dumb rednecks.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
MR
let ‘em bring it!! Im ready 4 war….
April 16th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
# 15yearsold15yearfan Says:
April 16th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
: Purdue defensive tackle Alex Magee visited the Raiders on Thursday, as did at least three unidentified offensive lineman, a team source said.
Magee moved to defensive end as a senior but he’s more of an interior lineman. His size (6-3, 298 pounds), versatility and room to grow reminds are seen as plusses.
^^^^^^^
I like Magee…he has good size, long arms, and he uses his hands really well to shed off blockers.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
408, there won’t be a war. National guard will mop the floor with them. Dept of Justice is already watching them. Announced it this week. They’re delusional. They just don’t want to face the fact that they’re in the minority now. Anyhow, what you’ve been doing, 408?
April 16th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Don’t be surprised if we end up with either Percy Harvin, WR, from Florida, or Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, from Maryland, as Davis will want to give Russell more weapons in his breakout year. This is a “must” BE PRODUCTIVE YEAR for Russell. Either put up or shut up. Crabtree and Maclin will not be on the board and Davis isn’t going for any lineman, defense or offense, although that would be in the best interest of the team. Davis has his own one track mind in that area…speed, speed and more speed. Additionally, after getting burned with the Gallery pick, it will be a long, long time before Davis takes a lineman in the early picks of the first round…it’s not going to happen, Jack, or dude.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
# severeraider Says:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
504
Great Draft…..Sidbury is highly underrated and will be a beast in the league.
^^^^^^
I agree….him and English will be solid football players and solid 2nd round picks if available.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
My ideal draft:
-Trade down with the Eagles
Rd1a. DHB WR
Rd1b. Laurinaitis LB
Rd2. Sean Smith CB/S
Rd3. Lawrence Sidbury DE
Rd4. Gerald Cadogan OT (had college #’s comparable to Joe Thomas)
Rd6. Chris Baker DT (6′2″ 326lbs 5.0 40yd dash)
rd7. Jorvorskie Lane FB (6′0″ 285lbs 4.75 40yd dash)
April 16th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Cancun-I don’t think Gallery is going to keep Al from picking another lineman in the first. That’s like saying Marinovich kept him from drafting a QB in the first, which it didn’t.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
# Howie Longs Flattop Says:
April 16th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Best time of the year 408. Stanley Cup Playoffs, NFL Draft, Start of the MLB season, and warm weather=women wearing less.
And I guess something’s going on with the NBA too, if you like that crap.
^^^^^^
I still would rather watch an NBA playoff game ahead of a Hockey playoff game.
Hockey playoffs are cool….but give me a solid basketball game any day of the week compared to seeing hockey teams and players I don’t give a crap about.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Raider 0…post 52:
Hey, dude, that’s a totally different game, that wasn’t a top draft choice in the college draft. That was a trade which all teams do all the time, usually with players they want to dump, or players demanding a trade.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
MR
.. gettin Faded watching the Sharks game… Working and just trying to bubble.. How ya doing?? I know your holding it down in here… Alot of people in here hate you But that’s all they are is haters… This place wouldn’t be the same without you…
April 16th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Even if the trade can benefit us more than Denver?!
April 16th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
007…
Sharks are sacred 2 some of us….
April 16th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Well Knight, to each his own I guess. I’ll watch college B Ball, but the NBA lost me when Jordan left. My love for the NHL over the NBA can be summed up in one word: Fighting. Or two words: Gambling Refs.
It’s a Raiders Blog anyway. Sorry to take up space with my crap that could be filled with Mock Drafts
April 16th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
# KoolKell Says:
April 16th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
If Madden wants to get out of the house, he can always hangout at Raiders training camp in Napa for a few days. Or Give a speech in the locker room. Or whisper pointers in Cables ear.
^^^^^^
That would be good enough….and he will have plenty of time on his hands now.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Howie Longs Flat Top.
Very few teams if any would have passed up the opportunity to draft Russell in the number one spot. Without an excellent QB, you’re not going anywhere in the NFL. Everything is geared off the OB, including leadership!
Lineman come and go, they don’t lead teams to Super Bowls ad they’re surely not the team leaders. I’ll stick to my guns and eat my words if Davis picks any lineman in the first round…this year or in those to come.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
testing…
April 16th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Playoff Link…
FREE DIRTY!!!
April 16th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Howie Longs Flattop Says:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Well Knight, to each his own I guess. I’ll watch college B Ball, but the NBA lost me when Jordan left. My love for the NHL over the NBA can be summed up in one word: Fighting. Or two words: Gambling Refs.
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LOL ur kidding right
April 16th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
# Howie Longs Flattop Says:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Well Knight, to each his own I guess. I’ll watch college B Ball, but the NBA lost me when Jordan left. My love for the NHL over the NBA can be summed up in one word: Fighting. Or two words: Gambling Refs.
It’s a Raiders Blog anyway. Sorry to take up space with my crap that could be filled with Mock Drafts
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ooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh….
das clownin son!!!
April 16th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
True, Cancun, true. A team in need of a QB would’ve been hard pressed to pass on JaM at 1. But look at what happened to our laser armed leader last year when he had even mediocre pass protection at the end of the season. He improved dramatically. No question about the leadership aspect, but a good line (O and D) can hide a lot of shortcomings. It makes or breaks a team. One lineman isn’t the difference maker, but a good line is. Just ask Trent Dilfer, Kerry Collins and other so-so game managers who’ve benefited.
I think Cable gets his way and we get the Cadillac if available. The enthusiasm at the presser this week was a little bit too eager to start working with his new toy, but we shall see.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
True, Cancun, true. A team in need of a QB would’ve been hard pressed to pass on JaM at 1. But look at what happened to our laser armed leader last year when he had even mediocre pass protection at the end of the season. He improved dramatically. No question about the leadership aspect, but a good line (O and D) can hide a lot of shortcomings. It makes or breaks a team. One lineman isn’t the difference maker, but a good line is. Just ask Trent Dilfer, Kerry Collins and other so-so game managers who’ve benefited.
I think Cable gets his way and we get the Cadillac if available. The enthusiasm at the presser this week was a little bit too eager to start working with his new toy, but we shall see.
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We should have done just that, pass on Jamarcus. We should have taken Calvin Johnson in the 1st and Trent Edwards in the 3rd in ‘07 and Ryan Clady in the 1st and Matt Forte in the 2nd of the ‘08 draft. We get a solid leader a QB, a Stud Receiver, a stud RB to compliment Bush, and on of the best ZBS LT in the NFL who should have been a pro bowler in Clady.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
It’s easy to say that Severe, but don’t believe the BS hype about JaM that the media is feeding you. The kid has the skills and he looked good at the end of last season. With some coaching continuity, an improved line, and another year under his and our current receivers’ belts, I think he’s going to impress this season.
Here’s your chance on the Pee-Pee 408.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Watchin the highlights of the running plays that were meant to discredit our DT’d did quie the opposite actually. On many of those plays it was the fault of the DE and the LB’s not doing covering their assignments in the running game. On more than one occassion a DT would get pressure up the middle forcing a cut back only to have a DE and a LB not be there to make the stop.
On one particular play against the Patriots about a minute through the video, everyone held their assignments only to have Asomugha whiff on the tackle at the LOS and Sammie morris get an extra 35yds.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Nevermind 408. Getzlaf is going bald at 24 anyway.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Flattop
I love J-Rock, i just feel that CJ was the best player that year by far and Trent Edwards was a ver good QB that could be a Pro Bowl caliber player. He had no protection at Sanford and if he had he would have been a 1st round prospect instead of the third rounder that he turned out to be. I was lobbying hard that year for CJ in the 1st and trent edwards in the third or Troy Smith in the 4th
April 16th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Sharks need to go with the Black Alternate for game 2.
Raiders need to trade down.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Im upset later Nation!!!
April 16th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
I know why weren’t they wearing the Black jerseys…. Ufck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 16th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Whats this news about a revolution? Got any links?
April 16th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
That makes sense Severe, but if he was undervalued in college b/c of no protection, what do you think would have happened with the same circumstances in the pro game? Calvin’s cool with me, but it seemed like we would have been putting 22’s on a Ford Focus if we picked him, know what I mean?
April 16th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Wow. The Sharks couldn’t even score. How pathetic. Its not surprising. The Bay Area doesn’t know how to finish the fukin job. I mean seriously…Bay Area sports is such a disgrace.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
I wanted CJ too.
I remember my mock: lol
1- CJ/ J Rus
2- DT A Branch or OT Tony Ugoh
3- Trent Edwards/ JLH
4- M Bush
April 16th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Flattop,
But Trent still put up decent numbers…and Jay Cutler was undervalued in the draft for the same reason the year before. If you the Calvin Johnson pick as a putting 22’s on a Focus fine with me but it would make your Focus look a whole lot better until you saved enough money to get your “Cadillac”.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
I wanted Trent and CJ, or JRus and JLH.
J Russel has more talent and potential than Edwards, but Edwards is Smart, a hard worker, and he has descent talent.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Both J Rus and CJ are freaks for their positions.
CJ: a WR who is 6′5 230, and ran a 4.3+
He loves to compete, remember the 40 thing.
JR: a QB who is 6′6 270, ran a 4.8, and has a Cannon
He us accurate on the deep ball, and can buy more time with his feet.
Compared to J Elway by Al Davis.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
Severeraider post #83 is a very good post. That would have been a good draft. But IMO we needed this JaMarcus badly. He will show you why in the coming years when Trent is constantly on IR and he’sleading the league in passing. If you put Trent and CJ on the same team yeah you can’t argue that. CJ is an unbelievable force and will be for years. But Russell could be ne of the most dominant QB’s the league has ever seen if they continue with what they’re doing as far as laying a foundation for him. They are in the process of rebiulding him as a QB from top to bottom technigue wise. If that comtinues for the next few years his fundamentals will be second to none.
Russell’s natural talent is enough to get him through his career and maybe a few probowls, but what he’s doing now will make him very sound technigue and that IMO makes his talent go to the top of QB’s in this league within the next 2 years. If we put the talent around him on offense but especially on defense he will be in some big games and he will be the difference.
I’ve said it before the Matt Ryans can be gym rats all they want but they cannot get talent they don’t possess. Russell has phenomenal talent if he puts the work in WOW! WOW!. He could be in the top few QB’s to ever play the game. Any organization would give anything to have that. Well we have it. Elway IMO took too long to learn to read defenses and use his smarts instead of his considerable physical tools. It took Mike Shanahan to get him to use those. Russell is getting that early in his career.
We have a lot of young talent around him. Now it’s imperative that we finish the Oline and get the talent we need so that is not an issue anymore. The defense is critical so that he’s not always coming from behind. He can just bury teams with his awesome talent and the players around him.
I think the future is very bright if we finish this process. However Crabtree is a very seductive option….you’ll have no complaint from me if he’s the pick.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Raider O
The only difference is that witha team crumbling around him and being doubled and tripled teamed and no QB, CJ is still one of the best WR’s in the league.
With and up and coming team and a top 10 rushing attack but no WR’s Jruss is average at best.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
David white was on path to the Draft on the NFLN.
He said the Raiders would draft Crab if he is there, or A smith.
They also listed the Raiders Needs as:
WR
OT
DT
S
OLB
In that order.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Raider O
Just got back from drinking a couple margaritas, and listening to some Latin sounds, Santana style. the chips and salsa were good too.
Back to your thoughts on JR. Ya, if this dude can just take a double jump into that “super-stardom” that potentially is within his reach…WOW, we would be on our way to an awesome year. You know the drill…playoffs and such!
April 16th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
You know it really bothers me that the overwhelming opinion on Russell is that he doesn’t want to put in the work. Since he’s been with Raiders I can honestly say that I haven’t heard that come from any of the Raiders staff. I’ve heard just the opposite. But I have heard that he sisn’t understand how much work he needed to put in to be the starter for his franchise. Since that has become known to him he hasn’t resisted any of the coaches recommendations. Now obviously there is something they are concerned about but I don’t think it’s his work ethic it’s his partying and hanging with some of the what they fellis the wrong element.
That is IMO what Cable is alluding to rather than his work ethic. Russell suddenly rich and very young is not always putting him self in the right situations and the raiders are trying to get him to cut way back on that. Hopefully they’ll get through to him and he’ll see that is as much a part of his responsibility as the work he’s putting in. They don’t want any incidents such as an arrest or him in the wrong place at the worst time.
He has to realise he is the face of the franchise in many ways. How he carries him self is critical. And he must be willing to accept that. Cable is working hard to get that accross to him. Russell himself is not is bad kid but what about the guy’s he hangs around? Very dangerous.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
Looks like most of you dudes have checked out for the nite.
Lets hope that a clone of Merlin Olsen walks into the Raiders training camp and gets a try out. In the mean time, good nite and better tomorrows. Go Raiders!
April 16th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Okay Raider O, I’m at work and supposed to be working so I have to make this quick. Here is my mock draft, and mind you that Curry falling to us at 7 is whishful thinking.
1. Andre Smith – lt or Aaron Curry – ilb
From trade down with Denver:
1. Michael Oher – ot
1. Darius Heyward-Bey – wr
From trade down with Piladelphia:
1. Vontae Davis – cb/fs
1. Percy Harvin – wr
2. Ron Brace – dt
3. Rashad Johnson – s or Chip Vaughn – s
4. Zack Follet – olb or Jonathan Casillas – olb
7. Ryan Purvis – te
April 16th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Priesttj:
I guess I’ve been out of the loop too long. Maybe too many sandy beaches, aqua-mint green waves and beautiful women walking the beaches in their thongs and shaking their sweet things.
I hope your wrong about JR hanging out with the wrong crowd and with dangerous dudes as well. First I’ve heard of it. Hopefully it’s been blown out of proportion which is likely after the Javon Walker incident which still bogs my mind. Walker has serious, big time issues. I hope
he gets cut…you know…like ASAP.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Calitotexas
I would like to see that Percy Harvin or Darrius Hetwood-Bey catching some rockets from the Ja-Mar.
Agree with you there.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
Beach if you’re not local you wouldn’t knw but as I said hopefully he’s slowing down. As you might have guessed I’m worried because it’s not his work ethic Cable is concerned about it’s when he leaves the complex. Every young player who’s instantly rich has his drawbacks. Some more than others but with young black athletes and these posse’s it can be a real peoblem for them. Everything they’ve wanted they now have and they want to enjoy it. Well in most cases it puts them in harms way. He no different he’s young and newly rich, women, booze friends and fun can be addictive to a young 23 year old. Getting them to see why they shouldn’t is extremely difficult.
So we’ll see……it’s the only thing that I can see that is a real threat to his career. I remember trying to talk to Darrell Russell and Aaron Wallace about the same thing and it went right over their heads just totally clueless. Well what happened to them scares the hell out of me when I think about Jruss. He has no idea how much he’s at risk.
April 17th, 2009 at 12:41 am
Mornings…
M and Daze, how clever do you guys feel now…. oh i just dont understand how good friends Madden and Al are??? well this is exactly how i said he would feel…
April 17th, 2009 at 1:11 am
408, glad Al worshipers hate me. It’s when those morons like you that you should be worrying.
24, I said right wing, redneck rubes seem like they’re going to start a revolution. Didn’t say they were. Did you watch the coverage of these retarded tea parties yesterday? Some scary trailer trash out there. They’re acting like Obama had the Supreme Court cancel a recount that would have given McCain a victory. McCain got walloped. Wasn’t even close. I think these morons are simply in denial. The people spoke. Those dumb hicks can stand out in the street and yell all they want. I hope Obama takes their names and taxes all of them 90%. Wouldn’t hurt him one bit politically. They’re make up for jack shyt far as the electorate is concerned. Tax ‘em, Barack. Call it reparations.
April 17th, 2009 at 1:34 am
408…
pirate bay, judgement will come in ~30 minutes…. lets hope they win so we can get back to normal =) LOL
April 17th, 2009 at 1:36 am
ohh well i gotta go to a meeting, i got my LNG safely through the Malacca.. so I wont see the judgement live :/
April 17th, 2009 at 4:48 am
Call me one crazy old broad, but there is no way in hell I see Curry falling into our laps. Then again, crazier things have happened, and I certainly wouldn’t bitch if he did.
On Percy…I’m not too keen on his questionable character. He has great burst and acceleration and home-run speed, which Al covets, but I keep reading bad things about him…talks down to his coaches, does not take well to hard coaching, has a “supreme sense of entitlement”, does not have a likable personality and tends “to rub teammates the wrong way”, and his durability is questionable. That’s a lot of cons in my book. He also, according to one draft book, “identifies with the 757 Virginia Beach neighborhood that produced LT, M. Vick and DeAngelo Hall…elite but troubled athletes” Is this the type of player we want in the locker room, yet alone, on the field? He sounds to me like some primadonna punk ass mini version of TO, which I don’t see helping JRuss or any of the other younger players. It sounds like we finally have some camaraderie on this young and talented team and I just don’t think he would be a good fit. I think there is better options out there. We shall see what happens, but it is not the #7 pick I am worried about as whoever we get there will help us…it’s the 2nd and later rounds that I am a little edgy over. Nonetheless, let’s hope they have a good draft and we come out not only helping JRuss but the D-Line too! Have a great day, Nation and…..
GO RAIDERS!!!
April 17th, 2009 at 5:27 am
MaddenRaider… post #103… very nice. What’s hilarious about it is that the trailer trash is all worked up about something that’s probably going to BENEFIT them; they’re just afraid of the Communists lol.
It’s the fat cats that are going to have to start paying their share, so they drum up the propaganda and the unwashed fall for it every time.
April 17th, 2009 at 5:43 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
It’s Friday! That’s always a good thing, except when you have to work on Sunday!!! Oh well, a little extra money always helps.
AM Crew…I don’t know who has the waitress, but tell her to get coffee for all of us!
What’s going on guys?
April 17th, 2009 at 5:51 am
What’s up fellas whats the word.
April 17th, 2009 at 5:57 am
Moring Naton,
Man its funny the donks draft on post 27, looks like this chat room they get everybody this room wants…
April 17th, 2009 at 6:06 am
GOOD MOOOORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, HWNDR,NOMOREFARGAS,OAKLIFER,ROCKSTAR,A GREAT DAY TO BE ALIVE AND WELL …
April 17th, 2009 at 6:09 am
Morning NMF, OAKlifer,
It’s been quiet so far. The news on Madden wasn’t surprising. Would be cool to see him this year at the games…although he would probably be heavily guarded, or come through without no one knowing.
April 17th, 2009 at 6:12 am
Morning Dirt Lot,
Everyday I wake up, I do count my lucky stars to be alive. Got your coffee? Lets all kick back and enjoy the weekend ride!
April 17th, 2009 at 6:14 am
besides scott and derrick we dont have any kind of pass-rush, and derrick is gone after this year, plus theres no garauntee he can be productive this year, gilbert and jay could man one side while scott and derrick the other, raji thrown in the mix at dt would help out greatly
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raidersince87: this is from your boy S&B yesterday (post #245) in Jerry Mac’s last blog …
“Don’t we need to fix existing problems and not future ones? I would rather roll with Burgess and Scott this year.”
“I don’t see adding a pass rusher as an immediate need.”
you guys seem to be on the same page regarding every draft pick. might want to talk to him about this one!
April 17th, 2009 at 6:16 am
Whats up DLF …Always a great day I!!!
Morning Hwndr!!!! would love to see madden buying a beer and a dog…. but he will be in davis’s box!!!
Curry?!?!?!?m
hmnhmnm now theres a thought!!!
April 17th, 2009 at 6:16 am
JOHN MADDEN,PEOPLE THAT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE NFL / SPORT’S IN GENERAL , KNOW THE NAME JOHN MADDEN, AND KNOW THAT HE COACHED THE OAKLAND RAIDER’S.LIKE HIS ANNOUNCING STYLE OR NOT,I FOR ONE DID NOT CARE FOR HIM SCRIBBLING ALL OVER MY T.V.SCREEN,THE NAME HAS TO BE WITH THE GREATS , LOMBARDI-HALAS-LANDRY-SHULA-AND OTHER’S IMO
April 17th, 2009 at 6:20 am
ROCKSTAR, SORRY I BAIL’D OUT SO QUICK YESTERDAY, WORK-ISSUE’S U ASKED ABOUT SOME DRAFT CHOICES I THINK ?
April 17th, 2009 at 6:22 am
good morning Dirt Lot, Hwnrdr, OAKlifer, NMF, ed teach …
where’s LMN & 4eva ?
April 17th, 2009 at 6:22 am
g’morning Nation,
what?? Curry in our lap? I don’t see it, but if he’s available that really creates a dilemma, albeit one you don’t mind having, i.e. LB’s hardly our strongest need but man how do you pass on this guy? This is where Al scares me…we NEED limemen and WRs.
Raider75 that is the best mock I’ve seen yet(post 19), lol. Of all the thousands of predictions by experts and otherwise, NO one can really say anything more accurate than that!
April 17th, 2009 at 6:24 am
Dirt Lot: yeah I did …
take your choice of Raji, Orakpo, Oher or Maclin
April 17th, 2009 at 6:25 am
the Lions signed Ronald Curry.
does that mean they’re not going after Michael Crabtree?
April 17th, 2009 at 6:25 am
Morning Double R,
Did you own the boss in the meetings yesterdsay???
April 17th, 2009 at 6:31 am
RAJI-OTHER-MACLIN, ORAKPO IS OUT, RAJI-OTHER-MACLIN, WITH A GUN TO MY HEAD, I TAKE MACLIN..
April 17th, 2009 at 6:31 am
haha. I always speak my mind
some people appreciate honesty. people being blunt, straight forward and to the point.
…others not so much
April 17th, 2009 at 6:31 am
Curry signed with Detroit? Hmmm…still no one to throw him the ball that he can drop. is Pep still there?
April 17th, 2009 at 6:35 am
you know what guys? i’ve been thinking …
I keep saying how I’d love to trade down, but this morning I’ve changed my mind
If we trade with Philly I want Ron Brace & either Oher or Mack.
Odds are if we trade with Philly that Al Davis will draft WR Darrius Heyward-Bey and CB Vontae Davis
this would be a terrible draft IMO
April 17th, 2009 at 6:36 am
we picked up the Lions garbage QB & WR two years ago in Josh McCown and Mike Williams …
now they’ve picked up ours in Daunte Culpepper and Ronald Curry …
seems only fair, right? haha
April 17th, 2009 at 6:41 am
Yeah, I guess you’re right, Rockstar. The difference between McCown and Williams is that at least McCown had heart and wanted to compete and was a team player. He just plained sucked as our QB (AZ he was decent). Big Mike…geez, your old recruiter and coach gave you one too many chances and still f’ed up. Where is he now?
April 17th, 2009 at 6:42 am
Curry in our lap? I don’t see it, but if he’s available that really creates a dilemma, albeit one you don’t mind having, i.e. LB’s hardly our strongest need but man how do you pass on this guy? This is where Al scares me…we NEED limemen and WRs.
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Maine: Morrison, Howard, Brown (the starters) are all in the final years of their contracts, not to mention depth guys like Alston & Williams…
If Aaron Curry is there, I think we have to take him.
I don’t think he’ll be there, but how many times has a LB been selected in the Top 6? it’s very rare
April 17th, 2009 at 6:42 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
April 17th, 2009 at 6:22 am
good morning Dirt Lot, Hwnrdr, OAKlifer, NMF, ed teach …
where’s LMN & 4eva ?
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Im right here! Morning All!^^^^^^^^^^ just had to focus on my LNG to ga back through the Malacca..
April 17th, 2009 at 6:42 am
Morning NATION!!!
Ufck the ducks…
April 17th, 2009 at 6:45 am
Josh McCown is 3rd string for the Panthers I think.
Mike Williams is out of the league. He didn’t make the Titans 53 man roster last year (and you know how bad they’re hurting for a WR!)
April 17th, 2009 at 6:45 am
408
morning to you too and fukk uFCK tooo!
April 17th, 2009 at 6:45 am
Good Morning 408,
Is it playoff time for hockey? Always laughed that a hockey team could be named after a Disney movie. But hey, they’re in Anaheim, right?
April 17th, 2009 at 6:46 am
KEEP TELL’N IT LIKE IT IS ROCKSTAR,IF U CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH……. WHERE ARE 4EVA AND L M N ,MAYBEE L M N FLEW INTO FLA. AND THEY ARE PARTY’N IT UP..
April 17th, 2009 at 6:48 am
That’s what I mean. Was it work ethic? Who cares now. Too bad because he was good at USC. Did he come out too early and got tangled in the evil of money?
I think McCown is now on the Broncos, right? IDK
April 17th, 2009 at 6:50 am
good morning LMN, 408 …
April 17th, 2009 at 6:50 am
word LMN Ufck them too….. hwnrdr yeah its playoff time and my sharks couldnt even score lastnight…
BTW Check out the new playoff link…
April 17th, 2009 at 6:51 am
RRS morning… Im grumpy 2 day…
April 17th, 2009 at 6:51 am
April 17th, 2009 at 6:52 am
HEY L M N ,408, GOOD DAY TO YOU BOTH.
April 17th, 2009 at 6:53 am
Hey 408, I’m with you. Go Sharks! I cheer for the home team. Just didn’t know if it was playoff time or not. Was last night the first game? I have to check out the link at home. Thanks!
April 17th, 2009 at 6:54 am
its playoff time and my sharks couldnt even score lastnight…
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408: thats how the Raiders are going to look too if we don’t get Russell some help at WR and o-line
April 17th, 2009 at 6:56 am
WHAT ARE YOUR OTHER SIX BROTHER’S NAMES 408 ? LUMPY-DROOPY……
April 17th, 2009 at 6:57 am
Morning Dirt Lot…
Hwnrdr yeah last night was the first game @ HOME EVEN…
April 17th, 2009 at 6:59 am
WHAT ARE YOUR OTHER SIX BROTHER’S NAMES 408 ? LUMPY-DROOPY……
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LOL Thanx I needed a good Laugh… Go RAIDERS
April 17th, 2009 at 7:01 am
a Milicia Negra Says:
April 17th, 2009 at 12:41 am
Mornings…
M and Daze, how clever do you guys feel now…. oh i just dont understand how good friends Madden and Al are??? well this is exactly how i said he would feel…
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WTF???? hey LMN you forgot to say neener neener…
April 17th, 2009 at 7:03 am
well guys, take care, I will go home! my jobs done for this week!
April 17th, 2009 at 7:04 am
Rockstar,
I don’t disagree, and wouldn’t be unhappy at all w/Curry as he is afterall the top guy in draft; but as ye say JR needs help w/OL and WR…what do people, what to do? I think the situation will resolve itself with Curry not being there at 7.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:07 am
My gawd Obama caves into the CIA…meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:09 am
HAVE A GOOD DAY /WEEKEND 408, EVERYONE, WORK CALLING.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:15 am
x(
April 17th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Good Morning NATION,late,late nite
April 17th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Hey, everyone have a great weekend! There are some issues here to take care of before people start crying about it…
Go Raiders…!!! One week til draft day!
April 17th, 2009 at 7:20 am
yo 4eva
April 17th, 2009 at 7:22 am
8 DAYS!!!
April 17th, 2009 at 7:23 am
Damn work getting in the way of the morning blog session…
April 17th, 2009 at 7:24 am
Morning Dakota….
Draft dude with the flappy titties
April 17th, 2009 at 7:25 am
Curry signs with the Lions…Ronald Curry that is…
Hope he doesn’t drop his signing bonus check.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Right on 408.
Announcer: “There’s a flag on the play, let’s get the call.”
Ref: “Tripping with titties, number 71, offense, five yards, repeat second down.”
April 17th, 2009 at 7:31 am
Bad day for the Celtics yesterday….first Garnett, then Ainge…well, I do feel bad for Garnett. Not that I want him to die, but fuk Ainge.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:33 am
LOL!
April 17th, 2009 at 7:34 am
Work calls….
April 17th, 2009 at 7:36 am
Good morning Nation! Posted a link to a good read on Marinovich. Kind of long, but if at work, it might help kill 20 minutes or so.
I’ll check back in later.
http://www.esquire.com/features/the-game/todd-marinovich-0509
April 17th, 2009 at 7:43 am
♫ No one knows what it`s like, no one knows how it feels. Nothing else could compare to the fears I fear. Been on my own, struggling all alone, all I have are these clothes on my back and this song ♫
April 17th, 2009 at 7:44 am
good morning Dakota, Vegas …
April 17th, 2009 at 7:46 am
# Dakota Says:
April 17th, 2009 at 7:31 am
Bad day for the Celtics yesterday….first Garnett, then Ainge…well, I do feel bad for Garnett. Not that I want him to die, but fuk Ainge.
Ainge has to be my all-time most hated Celtic well him or eddie house’s kid.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:51 am
Ha! Celtics are soft!!!
April 17th, 2009 at 7:52 am
Hi again, guys! ainge isn’t he that jets qb?
April 17th, 2009 at 7:55 am
My evesdropper in the breakroom at HQ on the island tells me that its BJ Raji next weekend,..unless some team 6 or higher takes him,…and this person, like me, has never been wrong. tgif.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:57 am
where do I get 1 of these shirts
http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/members/rhode-raider-albums-raiderfans-loose-picture6414-dsc-0220-see-ya-chucky.jpg
April 17th, 2009 at 7:57 am
However my first choice at 7 would be Andre,…I no way want Maclin, dudes a fraud,..if its Crabtree Im ok,..however theres no way hes getting past Cincy…if for some reason we unload the 7th pick for Boldin thats ok with me too.,..but not a 7th and anything else.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:59 am
Those t-shirts are always for sale by dudes in the parking lot while tailgating,..I have a “F” shhirt for every team in the league,…took me about ten years to finally get one for all,..but it got done.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:59 am
408…
isnt it redundant now that chucky isnt bucs-coach?
btw, Tomatillos is very very hard to come by at these parts of the world :/
April 17th, 2009 at 8:02 am
Ok so its only 8:00 here,…just getting going actually,..but its friday,..nice day out,…good enough reason for me to pour myself a beer,..in a frosty mug,…to chase down a couple Norco`s,…start the day right,..will hit the gym pool and hot tub after meds kick in,…tgif.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:02 am
hmmm pirate bay got 1 year :/ sad sad news
April 17th, 2009 at 8:04 am
Are you sure “redundant” is the right word to describe that La Mary?…yes hes gone of course, but dont thing redundant is the way to go,…but I get your drift,..dude why would you want to live and work in a white run 3rd world country?…cant find a decent job here?…
April 17th, 2009 at 8:09 am
# La Milicia Negra Says:
April 17th, 2009 at 7:59 am
408…
isnt it redundant now that chucky isnt bucs-coach?
btw, Tomatillos is very very hard to come by at these parts of the world :/
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I suppose so .. Its still a cool shirt…
what kinda backwards ass place do you live in where you cant get Tomatillos… JK
April 17th, 2009 at 8:10 am
LMN
so pirate bay is no good any more
April 17th, 2009 at 8:11 am
I think “F chucky and the bucs” will always work as a shirt, due to the superbowl….dont understand what you mean by redundant,..I am aware the words definition, just dont get your meaning with it…but hey, you have been in the last 3rd world country run by white people too long I guess.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:13 am
yo Bob whit people are cool…. IMO
April 17th, 2009 at 8:13 am
*white
April 17th, 2009 at 8:14 am
408…
true its cool, and all the SB-thing makes it work still…
I never heard about Tomatillos until i read that recipe, but now i will to start look for it at the turks…
April 17th, 2009 at 8:16 am
408..
regarding TPB, i honestly dont know, the swedes gave the guys 1 year, but I dont think they are finished with the courts =)
April 17th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Of course us white folks are cool,..well not all,..however I think its funny, there are still 3rd world countries around, Denmark the last one though run by Whitey.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:18 am
As soon as these mother f*ckin pills kick in Im outta here to the pool/spa,…but this ice cold beer is doin good,…ya its early, but Im having toast with it to make it seem more like a legit breakfast.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:19 am
im rather sure they kicked in before you took them…
April 17th, 2009 at 8:21 am
Draft Andre at 7 please so our big overrated qb can try and throw a pass,..however in my opinion he can have 15 seconds in the pocket and still miss his target….thank God Garcia will emerge from Napa the starter,..I will emerge from Napa drunk on wine.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:23 am
They actually kickin in now,..its a great feeling when you feel them kickin in….like someone pouring warm silly putty all over me as Im smoking a joint,..cant beat it.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Anyone read the Marinovich article?
April 17th, 2009 at 8:25 am
If crazy Al drafts that fraud Maclin thats it, we done.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Vegas… nope, im making dinner… but I know his fatehr sure effed up his kids..
April 17th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Vegas,..who gives a F about todd marinovich?…dude was drafted like 18 years ago,..won like 3 games,..why would a dude living in Vegas give a F?…nothing better to do in Vegas but worry about todd marinovich?…ever heard of a strip club?
April 17th, 2009 at 8:30 am
norco you skould take a chill pill also…. wtf
April 17th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Im outta here,..pills kicked in,..beer too,…heading to Capitola for the day,..surfs up,..then go to Margaritaville for a few,…draft Andre.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:30 am
should oooppppssss
April 17th, 2009 at 8:31 am
Bob,
I’m at work, just trying to kill time. I think some on here might care more about reading an interesting article than listen to you rave about your “norco’s kicking in” for the millionth time. Just a hunch.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Vegas good stuff =) LOL
April 17th, 2009 at 8:43 am
Why would Philly trade us their 2 number 1’s for the 7th overall? I’ve heard this, don’t get the logic.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:45 am
Vegas: I agree w/ post #197
April 17th, 2009 at 8:51 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 17th, 2009 at 8:45 am
Vegas: I agree w/ post #197
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I’ve never had a problem with Norco, and dude jumps down my throat.
Funny he asks me if I ever “heard of a strip club”. The last place I want to go is one of those joints, I dated a lived with a dancer for almost a year and a half. Been there done that.
I didn’t realize just how messed up Todd Marinovich was. He use to take acid and do his pre-game warmups, all stoked because of the “sweet sound-systems playing the Stones”. What a clown.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:51 am
Why would Philly trade us their 2 number 1’s for the 7th overall? I’ve heard this, don’t get the logic.
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because then they could get a tackle like Andre Smith or Michael Oher instead of a guy like Eben Britton or William Beatty.
They could also draft a WR like Crabtree or Maclin instead of a guy like Britt or Nicks
you see? higher quality players…
playoff teams like Philly are only a few players away from taking their division crown.
the Raiders have many needs and only 5 draft picks to address them.
thats why a trade makes sense. plus the point value chart has this as a pretty fair swap.
of course all this is moot if Philly trades for Ocho Stinko, Boldin or Edwards …
April 17th, 2009 at 9:02 am
I happen to agree. Why would Philly give up two 1st for an unproven WR when they can get Bolden for a 1st and a 3rd? Or trade for Edwards. Not to mention going after Burress or Holt for free.
April 17th, 2009 at 9:02 am
RRS…
I still dont believe it would happen, it would help us way more than Philly to do such a deal… so still why should they..
April 17th, 2009 at 9:03 am
if I was Philly i wouldnt trade fore Boldin either, but Braylon would be a much better catch..
April 17th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Vegas: I think Todd Marinovich, Darrell Russell, Darnell Bing and Justin Fargas scared Al Davis away from drafting anymore players from USC.
Since 1990 those are the only players we’ve drafted from there. Don’t forget Mike Williams drafted by the Lions who didn’t pan out here …
I’m pretty sure Rey Maualuga won’t be the pick!
April 17th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Not to mention the sour taste Kid Kiff gave Al.
April 17th, 2009 at 9:07 am
RRS…
GOD!!! i hope you are right, I understand why californians love USC, but as a raider fan they are not NFL material… that said, I in fact like Brian Cushing LOL
April 17th, 2009 at 9:09 am
for everybody who doesnt think our receivers can be good here is a list of wr taken out of the 1st rd not all superstars but solid players
tj housh 7th rd
TO 3rd rd
Muhsin Muhammad 2nd rd
derrick mason 4th rd
hines ward 3rd rd
donald driver 7th rd
Laveranues Coles 3rd rd
steve simth 3rd rd
ocho cinco 2nd rd
Antwaan Randle El 2nd rd
Antonio Bryant 2nd rd
Deion Branch 2nd rd
david tyree 6th rd
anquan boldin 2nd rd
patrick crayton 7th rd
marques colston 7th rd
brandon marshall 4th rd
greg jennings 2nd rd
steve breaston 5th rd
April 17th, 2009 at 9:10 am
It seems that some of the recent Defensive guys from USC have done much better than the Offensive guys. Tatupa and Troy P are Pro-Bowlers, I think Sam Baker, Lendale White and Steve Smith are the best USC has come up with on offense (with flops like Mike Williams, Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush and a few others.)
April 17th, 2009 at 9:20 am
15yrfan
thats what ive been saying. draft defense first and the raiders could still get a quality wr in the 2nd round. robiski or britt can probable be had there. but defense sould be 1st priority. then get chung in 3rd round if still available.
April 17th, 2009 at 9:23 am
#204
the Raiders let a back-up safety go to philly…and they brought back almost everyone that performed well after Kiff….why didnt the Raiders keep him,when he`s so cheap,and there is no depth at safety????
April 17th, 2009 at 9:24 am
eddie royal.. 2nd..
April 17th, 2009 at 9:26 am
15y_fan..
thats why i think there are too much upside on robiskie, to let him go another team
April 17th, 2009 at 9:27 am
him and desean jackson
April 17th, 2009 at 9:29 am
i think out of all the wr in the draft robiski may be the one that is most ready for the nfl because of his dad couching all those years and teaching him what it takes to make it in the nfl… hard work ect.. with that said i think crabtree will be better but not by much when all is said and done
April 17th, 2009 at 9:30 am
15 year old
your right about drafting defence….id like to see Ray Ray in the 1st and Brace in the 2nd….
that would improve the offence,they would have better field-position
April 17th, 2009 at 9:31 am
*coaching *
April 17th, 2009 at 9:32 am
The Jets are trying to trade up from their number 17 slot to get Sanchez.
That could be an option for us come draft day.
I said this yesterday by the way because of a profootballtalk article.
April 17th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Also, look at the top receiving leaders last year. In yards 4 of the top 5 were 1st round picks, with 3 of them being top 5 picks (Fitz, A. Johnson, C. Johnson.)
So if you want the top end players, you got to spend top picks for them. If you want above average, you spend 3rd round picks. I’m tired of “above-average” players, I want elite ones.
April 17th, 2009 at 9:33 am
I’m tired of “above-average” players, I want elite ones.
I’m tired of “above-average” players, I want elite
\ones.
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Yes crabbs or curry !!!!!!!
April 17th, 2009 at 9:39 am
we need an elite oline or dline first a. johnson and c. johnson didnt get their teams to the playoffs c. johnson didnt even win a game
April 17th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Think about which is better: Crabs/ M Johnson or Brace. Or Raji/Britt or Barden in the first two rounds.
Crabs is no doubt the top receiver in the draft. Johnson or Brace might be the best one or two at their positions.
Meanwhile, Raji is the top DT prospect, but it is no where near as clear-cut as Crabtree, Crabtree has been a top 10 pick the last two years, Raji’s stock soared at the Senior Bowl. Meanwhile, Britt or Barden might be the 4th or 5th best prospects at the position.
April 17th, 2009 at 9:45 am
most of the the latest super-bowl winners have strong defences and medicore offences
i hope the Raiders dont go top- heavy with the offence,cause the defence aint scaring nobody…i wouldnt be dissapointed if they didnt draft one offensive player…
April 17th, 2009 at 9:45 am
15yearsold15yearfan Says:
April 17th, 2009 at 9:39 am
we need an elite oline or dline first a. johnson and c. johnson didnt get their teams to the playoffs c. johnson didnt even win a game
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Meanwhile Fitz took his team to the Super Bowl, and R White lead his team to the playoffs. Steve Smith, the only non first round pick in the top 5, helped win the division and get a first round bye.
Let me ask you, how many games did our WR’s dominate last year? The reason I ask is, our O-line dominated three games last year (Bucs, Texans and first Chiefs game) and the last few years we are always in the top 10 in rushing. Our O-line still needs some upgrades, and I think we addressed it in the off-season, but our O-line was DOMINANT at times last year. Now the D-line, that’s a completely different story……
April 17th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Andre and Robiskie… no doubt!
April 17th, 2009 at 9:45 am
IMHO if the nfl implements a rookie salary cap that would cut down on busts… all these guys are getting millions of $ on what they did in college.. some guys ,not all only care about the payday.. thats why we have so many bust imo i think you have to look for guys that love the game with a passion no matter where they are ranked on kipper big board
April 17th, 2009 at 9:47 am
What’s up guys
April 17th, 2009 at 9:49 am
give me a guy that would kill his mother on sunday… thats who we should draft
April 17th, 2009 at 9:49 am
The lines are out for week 1, Raiders are 7 point underdogs.
April 17th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Meanwhile Fitz took his team to the Super Bowl, and R White lead his team to the playoffs. Steve Smith, the only non first round pick in the top 5, helped win the division and get a first round bye.
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you dont think julius peppers, john abraham, and darnell dockett had any thing to do with that
April 17th, 2009 at 9:52 am
15yearsold15yearfan Says:
April 17th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Meanwhile Fitz took his team to the Super Bowl, and R White lead his team to the playoffs. Steve Smith, the only non first round pick in the top 5, helped win the division and get a first round bye.
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you dont think julius peppers, john abraham, and darnell dockett had any thing to do with that
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Absolutely. Don’t get killed on the ground, get timely turnovers and get the ball to your play-making receivers, that’s been the recipe of the last 4 Super Bowl teams. Steelers and AZ O-line’s are well below average, D-line and WR’s are among the leagues best.
April 17th, 2009 at 9:52 am
# r8rpaver Says:
April 17th, 2009 at 9:49 am
give me a guy that would kill his mother on sunday… thats who we should draft
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What? please explain?
April 17th, 2009 at 9:53 am
carolina has jordan gross and atlanta drafted an ot in the first last year
April 17th, 2009 at 9:55 am
defense wins games. and, games are won in the trenches. we drafted and top qb & rb the last 2 years. now its time to build our lines. we have done ok with OL in free agency. we need DL in the draft. we will never win if we are still last against the run. we need someone like raji or ayers and then a safety like chung. best case would be to trade down and then get both safety, dl, then wr. would love to get ayers, chung, robiski.
April 17th, 2009 at 9:57 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 17th, 2009 at 9:52 am
# r8rpaver Says:
April 17th, 2009 at 9:49 am
give me a guy that would kill his mother on sunday… thats who we should draft
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What? please explain?
that was way too strong man…give me one that loves his mother,but would kill a running-back
April 17th, 2009 at 9:57 am
15yearsold15yearfan Says:
April 17th, 2009 at 9:53 am
carolina has jordan gross and atlanta drafted an ot in the first last year
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Chiefs, Lions and Bears also drafted OT’s in the first round last year. Sam Baker was like the 6th tackle taken. Every year there is a bunch of tackles taken in the first round, let Mario see where he is at and than address it next year if it is still an issue. I would rather have the best WR or the best DT or the best DE, instead of the 3rd or 4th best OT at #7.
April 17th, 2009 at 9:57 am
1. Matt Stafford
2. J Smith
3. A Curry
4. M Sanchez
5. M Crabtree
6. E Monroe
7. A Smith
April 17th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Players we should targey, in this order:
1- J Smith/ Monroe/ Curry/ Orakpo/ Crab/ A Smith/ Raji/ Maclin
2- DHB/ M Johnson/ H Nicks/ Jarron Gilbert/ Meredith/ Brace/ Moore/ Chung/ Ramses B/ Robiskie
3- Marcus Freeman/ Bruton/ Vaughn/ J Williams
4- Clinton McD/ Dorell Scott/ Sammie Lee/ Khalif Mitchell/ Sidbury/ T Taylor/ Z Follett
April 17th, 2009 at 9:59 am
The Raiders seem to be really pursuing another TE, to compliment Miller. Given that Tony Stewart is primarily a ST’er and getting up there in years, and Darrel Strong is a practice squad scrub, and per Cable we will be seeing a lot of 2 TE sets this year. I am starting to think that one of Cable’s 4 positions of need may very well be TE, rather than WR. With two TE sets, that is one less WR that needs to be on the field.
Perhaps Cable wants upgrades at LT, SS, TE and DE. We could see a draft like this, which might surprise some:
1. Andre Smith or Oher, depending on availability
2. Michael Johnson,Robert Ayers,Jarron Gilbert,Paul Kruger, Tyson Jackson
3. Jared Cook or Chip Vaughn (if Cook is there still)
4. Reshard Langford or Anthony Hill (based on 3rd pick)
7. Best Available LB or DT
April 17th, 2009 at 10:00 am
I’m sure I forgot a few, so let me know who should be on the target list too.
April 17th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Crabtree isn’t as clear cut at 6′1 going against Big 12 defenses
April 17th, 2009 at 10:01 am
No way TJackson falls to 2nd round
April 17th, 2009 at 10:02 am
This piece of crap who killed the four Oakland cops was a real freakin winner huh? What a piece of garbage that low life was….
http://www.insidebayarea.com/top-stories/ci_12159004
April 17th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Al’s draft
1. A Smith/M Oher
2. Best WR avail
3. Best S avail
April 17th, 2009 at 10:04 am
BBB,
That made a lot of sense. 2 TEs. 2 WRs, and a single back. Dmc or Bush.
We need another TE, and we schd a few visits with TEs this draft.
April 17th, 2009 at 10:05 am
vegas i agree with going dline but if we dont id rather go oline than wr i agree we got better with mario starting but everybody says he needed alot of help i can wait another year for oline though as long as we go with d this year
April 17th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Crabtree is more like 6′2 with his cleats on and especially with his long arms and long wingspan!
I agree with what David White said yesterday on Path to the Draft, that the Raiders will look at Crabtree if he is there….if he isn’t there at #7, then they should look at Andre Smith. If none are there and if Sanchez is still there….then a trade down is a must IMO.
At least they had a guy who actually has a Raider beat compared to that slap head they had on last year Ray Ratto…who knows nothing of Raider football.
April 17th, 2009 at 10:09 am
LMN: we need a guy like singletary of old.. like a ray lewis someone to fear on the field.. a tatum.. a tuzz someone with a passion for the game.. someone that takes a 15 yard run personal ..someone mean as a snake.. someone that would kill there mom on the football field on sunday.. old RAIDER football. i want LT, LJ,sproles,and whoever the donkey have to hate to run in there space.. i want the meanest badest MF on the field to kick everyones a$$ even his mother on sunday
April 17th, 2009 at 10:09 am
15,
Do you play Madden on PS3?
If you do, how do you import the real college players for the draft?
April 17th, 2009 at 10:10 am
15yo15,
I will meet you half-way, Defense at #7, best WR available round 2, than more D and maybe one O-lineman in the 4th.
We have negleted the WR position for too long, IMO, and it caught up to us. There is no “luxury” positions in the NFL, some are more important than others (like D-line), but no doubt the trend in the league now is to stop the run, get close to the red zone and throw up jump balls to an elite WR (Moss, Plax, Holmes and Fitz all caught 4th quarter TD’s in the Super Bowl on “jump-ball” type plays.)
April 17th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Players we should targey, in this order:
1- J Smith/ Monroe/ Curry/ Orakpo/ Crab/ A Smith/ Raji/ Maclin
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how can yu put Orakpo above crabbs and A smith???
What postion do youhink he would excell at and is that were cable and co. would put him…. we dnt really need that much outside linebacker help Exspecialy if we move morrison outside..and he in not stout enough to play DE (see) gholston…..and we alrady have Burgess to run up field 5 yrds whilke a RB runs around him!!!]
April 17th, 2009 at 10:16 am
LMN,
About Madden and Al.
Madden was a LB coach in a time were people like him didn’t get a chance at a HC job.
His look, attitude, and behavior was limited to one team. The Raiders.
Madden is an empire now, and he gives mist of the credit to his best friend Al.
Al takes care of his players and coaches, if he likes them. Always did, and will keep on doing it.
Al helped Otto with his hospital bills, and he took care of a lot of players that the NFL couldn’t take care of.
April 17th, 2009 at 10:24 am
John Madden retires? John Madden is never going to retire from football. The guys lives it.
He is going to have SOME kind of a roll with the Raiders.
At 73 he’s not going to be the GM but he’s going to end up with some kind of advisory roll with the team he loves simply because he can’t stay away from football.
Madden is going to be sitting up in that box with Al. He might even end up representing Al at certain meetings. There is no way that Madden gives up football.
Pat Summerall was recalling the time that Madden sat on his mike just before a Superbowl. Summerall was the perfect guy to pair up with Madden because he just let John do his thing.
When Madden paired up with Al Michaels, there were many times when I wished Madden would just sit on Michaels. Al was a pretty good baseball announcer but when it comes to football he just won’t shut up
April 17th, 2009 at 11:15 am
RaiderTW Says:
April 17th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Funniest sign at one of the Tea Bag rallies:
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/bill-falafel-oreilly-just-appalled-t
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LOL! That O’Reilly is such a freakin windbag. When I was on vacation in Cabo last week, I was at the pool and I saw this overweight middle aged white woman actually wasting her time on her vacation reading O’Reaillys book?
I laughed and said out loud to a friend of mine so she can hear me. “Look that lady is actually reading that winbags O’Reillys book on her vacation”??
She heard and moved her chair somewhere else! hahaha
April 17th, 2009 at 11:17 am
DKnight007, she must like her t!tts rubbed down with a falafel, huh?
April 17th, 2009 at 11:19 am
No more trading down… the Eagles just traded their #28 pick for Bills LT Peters.
April 17th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Yong American – We still can pull off a trade with the Jets. They are salivating over Dirty Sanchez.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Well he’s only a day from his retirement announcement. Let the guy have a few days off before Big Al brings him back into the fold.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
going bald at young age…
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April 29th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
victory beach vacation…
Hm, this post about UNCOOLKIDS confuses me……
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Beach Carolina House Sale…
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