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Raiders not in Madden’s fulltime plans

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, April 16th, 2009 at 7:27 pm in Oakland Raiders.

John Madden told Bay Area News Group-East Bay columnist Cam Inman Thursday he had no plans to become a consultant for the Raiders, nor was he planning on becoming involved in ownership.

“No, uh uh,” Madden replied when asked if he’s interested in becoming a consultant for the Raiders.
As for succeeding Davis and owning the Raiders: “No, uh uh. As an owner, no. As a fan, I’ll be able to go to more games.”

Which doesn’t mean Madden won’t have some influence. He considers Davis one of his closest friends and the two will have more time to talk. It’s just that with Madden turning 73, it was a pipe dream to think he would ever get into the fulltime grinder of NFL management _ especially since all his expertise was as a coach.

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  • vegas raider

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 17th, 2009 at 8:45 am
    Vegas: I agree w/ post #197

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    I’ve never had a problem with Norco, and dude jumps down my throat.

    Funny he asks me if I ever “heard of a strip club”. The last place I want to go is one of those joints, I dated a lived with a dancer for almost a year and a half. Been there done that.

    I didn’t realize just how messed up Todd Marinovich was. He use to take acid and do his pre-game warmups, all stoked because of the “sweet sound-systems playing the Stones”. What a clown.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Why would Philly trade us their 2 number 1’s for the 7th overall? I’ve heard this, don’t get the logic.

    ***

    because then they could get a tackle like Andre Smith or Michael Oher instead of a guy like Eben Britton or William Beatty.

    They could also draft a WR like Crabtree or Maclin instead of a guy like Britt or Nicks

    you see? higher quality players…

    playoff teams like Philly are only a few players away from taking their division crown.

    the Raiders have many needs and only 5 draft picks to address them.

    thats why a trade makes sense. plus the point value chart has this as a pretty fair swap.

    of course all this is moot if Philly trades for Ocho Stinko, Boldin or Edwards …

  • Ryan

    I happen to agree. Why would Philly give up two 1st for an unproven WR when they can get Bolden for a 1st and a 3rd? Or trade for Edwards. Not to mention going after Burress or Holt for free.

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    RRS…

    I still dont believe it would happen, it would help us way more than Philly to do such a deal… so still why should they..

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    if I was Philly i wouldnt trade fore Boldin either, but Braylon would be a much better catch..

  • RaiderRockstar

    Vegas: I think Todd Marinovich, Darrell Russell, Darnell Bing and Justin Fargas scared Al Davis away from drafting anymore players from USC.

    Since 1990 those are the only players we’ve drafted from there. Don’t forget Mike Williams drafted by the Lions who didn’t pan out here …

    I’m pretty sure Rey Maualuga won’t be the pick!

  • Ryan

    Not to mention the sour taste Kid Kiff gave Al.

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    RRS…

    GOD!!! i hope you are right, I understand why californians love USC, but as a raider fan they are not NFL material… that said, I in fact like Brian Cushing LOL

  • 15yearsold15yearfan

    for everybody who doesnt think our receivers can be good here is a list of wr taken out of the 1st rd not all superstars but solid players

    tj housh 7th rd
    TO 3rd rd
    Muhsin Muhammad 2nd rd
    derrick mason 4th rd
    hines ward 3rd rd
    donald driver 7th rd
    Laveranues Coles 3rd rd
    steve simth 3rd rd
    ocho cinco 2nd rd
    Antwaan Randle El 2nd rd
    Antonio Bryant 2nd rd
    Deion Branch 2nd rd
    david tyree 6th rd
    anquan boldin 2nd rd
    patrick crayton 7th rd
    marques colston 7th rd
    brandon marshall 4th rd
    greg jennings 2nd rd
    steve breaston 5th rd

  • vegas raider

    It seems that some of the recent Defensive guys from USC have done much better than the Offensive guys. Tatupa and Troy P are Pro-Bowlers, I think Sam Baker, Lendale White and Steve Smith are the best USC has come up with on offense (with flops like Mike Williams, Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush and a few others.)

  • NJRaiderfan

    15yrfan

    thats what ive been saying. draft defense first and the raiders could still get a quality wr in the 2nd round. robiski or britt can probable be had there. but defense sould be 1st priority. then get chung in 3rd round if still available.

  • Moose

    #204

    the Raiders let a back-up safety go to philly…and they brought back almost everyone that performed well after Kiff….why didnt the Raiders keep him,when he`s so cheap,and there is no depth at safety????

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    eddie royal.. 2nd..

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    15y_fan..

    thats why i think there are too much upside on robiskie, to let him go another team

  • 15yearsold15yearfan

    him and desean jackson

  • r8rpaver

    i think out of all the wr in the draft robiski may be the one that is most ready for the nfl because of his dad couching all those years and teaching him what it takes to make it in the nfl… hard work ect.. with that said i think crabtree will be better but not by much when all is said and done

  • Moose

    15 year old

    your right about drafting defence….id like to see Ray Ray in the 1st and Brace in the 2nd….
    that would improve the offence,they would have better field-position

  • r8rpaver

    *coaching *

  • http://www.cosmicdanceband.com SilverNBlack666

    The Jets are trying to trade up from their number 17 slot to get Sanchez.

    That could be an option for us come draft day.

    I said this yesterday by the way because of a profootballtalk article.

  • vegas raider

    Also, look at the top receiving leaders last year. In yards 4 of the top 5 were 1st round picks, with 3 of them being top 5 picks (Fitz, A. Johnson, C. Johnson.)

    So if you want the top end players, you got to spend top picks for them. If you want above average, you spend 3rd round picks. I’m tired of “above-average” players, I want elite ones.

  • OAKlifer

    I’m tired of “above-average” players, I want elite ones.

    I’m tired of “above-average” players, I want elite

    \ones.
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    Yes crabbs or curry !!!!!!!

  • 15yearsold15yearfan

    we need an elite oline or dline first a. johnson and c. johnson didnt get their teams to the playoffs c. johnson didnt even win a game

  • vegas raider

    Think about which is better: Crabs/ M Johnson or Brace. Or Raji/Britt or Barden in the first two rounds.

    Crabs is no doubt the top receiver in the draft. Johnson or Brace might be the best one or two at their positions.

    Meanwhile, Raji is the top DT prospect, but it is no where near as clear-cut as Crabtree, Crabtree has been a top 10 pick the last two years, Raji’s stock soared at the Senior Bowl. Meanwhile, Britt or Barden might be the 4th or 5th best prospects at the position.

  • Moose

    most of the the latest super-bowl winners have strong defences and medicore offences
    i hope the Raiders dont go top- heavy with the offence,cause the defence aint scaring nobody…i wouldnt be dissapointed if they didnt draft one offensive player…

  • vegas raider

    15yearsold15yearfan Says:
    April 17th, 2009 at 9:39 am
    we need an elite oline or dline first a. johnson and c. johnson didnt get their teams to the playoffs c. johnson didnt even win a game

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    Meanwhile Fitz took his team to the Super Bowl, and R White lead his team to the playoffs. Steve Smith, the only non first round pick in the top 5, helped win the division and get a first round bye.

    Let me ask you, how many games did our WR’s dominate last year? The reason I ask is, our O-line dominated three games last year (Bucs, Texans and first Chiefs game) and the last few years we are always in the top 10 in rushing. Our O-line still needs some upgrades, and I think we addressed it in the off-season, but our O-line was DOMINANT at times last year. Now the D-line, that’s a completely different story……

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    Andre and Robiskie… no doubt!

  • r8rpaver

    IMHO if the nfl implements a rookie salary cap that would cut down on busts… all these guys are getting millions of $ on what they did in college.. some guys ,not all only care about the payday.. thats why we have so many bust imo i think you have to look for guys that love the game with a passion no matter where they are ranked on kipper big board

  • http://atm Raider O

    What’s up guys

  • r8rpaver

    give me a guy that would kill his mother on sunday… thats who we should draft

  • vegas raider

    The lines are out for week 1, Raiders are 7 point underdogs.

  • 15yearsold15yearfan

    Meanwhile Fitz took his team to the Super Bowl, and R White lead his team to the playoffs. Steve Smith, the only non first round pick in the top 5, helped win the division and get a first round bye.
    ________________________________
    you dont think julius peppers, john abraham, and darnell dockett had any thing to do with that

  • vegas raider

    15yearsold15yearfan Says:
    April 17th, 2009 at 9:49 am
    Meanwhile Fitz took his team to the Super Bowl, and R White lead his team to the playoffs. Steve Smith, the only non first round pick in the top 5, helped win the division and get a first round bye.
    ________________________________
    you dont think julius peppers, john abraham, and darnell dockett had any thing to do with that

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    Absolutely. Don’t get killed on the ground, get timely turnovers and get the ball to your play-making receivers, that’s been the recipe of the last 4 Super Bowl teams. Steelers and AZ O-line’s are well below average, D-line and WR’s are among the leagues best.

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    # r8rpaver Says:
    April 17th, 2009 at 9:49 am

    give me a guy that would kill his mother on sunday… thats who we should draft
    ___________________________________________________

    What? please explain?

  • 15yearsold15yearfan

    carolina has jordan gross and atlanta drafted an ot in the first last year

  • NJRaiderfan

    defense wins games. and, games are won in the trenches. we drafted and top qb & rb the last 2 years. now its time to build our lines. we have done ok with OL in free agency. we need DL in the draft. we will never win if we are still last against the run. we need someone like raji or ayers and then a safety like chung. best case would be to trade down and then get both safety, dl, then wr. would love to get ayers, chung, robiski.

  • Moose

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    April 17th, 2009 at 9:52 am
    # r8rpaver Says:
    April 17th, 2009 at 9:49 am

    give me a guy that would kill his mother on sunday… thats who we should draft
    ___________________________________________________

    What? please explain?

    that was way too strong man…give me one that loves his mother,but would kill a running-back

  • vegas raider

    15yearsold15yearfan Says:
    April 17th, 2009 at 9:53 am
    carolina has jordan gross and atlanta drafted an ot in the first last year

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    Chiefs, Lions and Bears also drafted OT’s in the first round last year. Sam Baker was like the 6th tackle taken. Every year there is a bunch of tackles taken in the first round, let Mario see where he is at and than address it next year if it is still an issue. I would rather have the best WR or the best DT or the best DE, instead of the 3rd or 4th best OT at #7.

  • inonewordraider

    1. Matt Stafford
    2. J Smith
    3. A Curry
    4. M Sanchez
    5. M Crabtree
    6. E Monroe
    7. A Smith

  • http://atm Raider O

    Players we should targey, in this order:

    1- J Smith/ Monroe/ Curry/ Orakpo/ Crab/ A Smith/ Raji/ Maclin

    2- DHB/ M Johnson/ H Nicks/ Jarron Gilbert/ Meredith/ Brace/ Moore/ Chung/ Ramses B/ Robiskie

    3- Marcus Freeman/ Bruton/ Vaughn/ J Williams

    4- Clinton McD/ Dorell Scott/ Sammie Lee/ Khalif Mitchell/ Sidbury/ T Taylor/ Z Follett

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/skew-t/166654980/ BART Bridge Blues

    The Raiders seem to be really pursuing another TE, to compliment Miller. Given that Tony Stewart is primarily a ST’er and getting up there in years, and Darrel Strong is a practice squad scrub, and per Cable we will be seeing a lot of 2 TE sets this year. I am starting to think that one of Cable’s 4 positions of need may very well be TE, rather than WR. With two TE sets, that is one less WR that needs to be on the field.

    Perhaps Cable wants upgrades at LT, SS, TE and DE. We could see a draft like this, which might surprise some:

    1. Andre Smith or Oher, depending on availability
    2. Michael Johnson,Robert Ayers,Jarron Gilbert,Paul Kruger, Tyson Jackson
    3. Jared Cook or Chip Vaughn (if Cook is there still)
    4. Reshard Langford or Anthony Hill (based on 3rd pick)
    7. Best Available LB or DT

  • http://atm Raider O

    I’m sure I forgot a few, so let me know who should be on the target list too.

  • inonewordraider

    Crabtree isn’t as clear cut at 6’1 going against Big 12 defenses

  • inonewordraider

    No way TJackson falls to 2nd round

  • DKnight007

    This piece of crap who killed the four Oakland cops was a real freakin winner huh? What a piece of garbage that low life was….

    http://www.insidebayarea.com/top-stories/ci_12159004

  • inonewordraider

    Al’s draft
    1. A Smith/M Oher
    2. Best WR avail
    3. Best S avail

  • http://atm Raider O

    BBB,

    That made a lot of sense. 2 TEs. 2 WRs, and a single back. Dmc or Bush.
    We need another TE, and we schd a few visits with TEs this draft.

  • 15yearsold15yearfan

    vegas i agree with going dline but if we dont id rather go oline than wr i agree we got better with mario starting but everybody says he needed alot of help i can wait another year for oline though as long as we go with d this year

  • DKnight007

    Crabtree is more like 6’2 with his cleats on and especially with his long arms and long wingspan!

    I agree with what David White said yesterday on Path to the Draft, that the Raiders will look at Crabtree if he is there….if he isn’t there at #7, then they should look at Andre Smith. If none are there and if Sanchez is still there….then a trade down is a must IMO.

    At least they had a guy who actually has a Raider beat compared to that slap head they had on last year Ray Ratto…who knows nothing of Raider football.

  • r8rpaver

    LMN: we need a guy like singletary of old.. like a ray lewis someone to fear on the field.. a tatum.. a tuzz someone with a passion for the game.. someone that takes a 15 yard run personal ..someone mean as a snake.. someone that would kill there mom on the football field on sunday.. old RAIDER football. i want LT, LJ,sproles,and whoever the donkey have to hate to run in there space.. i want the meanest badest MF on the field to kick everyones a$$ even his mother on sunday

  • http://atm Raider O

    15,

    Do you play Madden on PS3?
    If you do, how do you import the real college players for the draft?