Absence makes Crabtree’s suitors grow fonder
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, April 18th, 2009 at 1:31 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders are probably more likely to select Michael Crabtree in absence of a recent 40-yard dash time, rather than less likely.
With Crabtree recovering from stress fracture surgery and cleared medically, he can be as fast as they want him to be.
That’s something you discover while visiting Pro Days and the combine, anyway. Teams have their own scouts take times at these events, and wonder of wonders, the player a scout likes often comes away with the requisite time.
The Cleveland Browns may hold the key to whether we’ll find out the Raiders’ true feelings about Crabtree. There is talk of dealing either Braylon Edwards, Brady Quinn, or both, with the Browns interested in both Crabtree and USC quarterback Mark Sanchez.
Once Crabtree is gone, only two receivers would probably merit the No. 7 pick _ Missouri’s Jeremy Maclin and Maryland’s Darrius Heyward-Bey. The latter is a stretch, but veteran Al Davis watchers feel it’s a possibility because of his blistering combine time as well as the best height-weight-speed numbers at his position.
If the Browns take Crabtree, the only thing for certain is the Raiders will get exactly who they wanted all along at No. 7 _ regardless of whose name is called.
Crabtree? Never heard of him.
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April 18th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
1st.. go raiders. the draft is almost here!
April 18th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Ha! Al is passing on Craptree. You can guarantee that. As a matter of fact I guaranTREE that
April 18th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
If the Browns take Crabtree, the only thing for certain is the Raiders will get exactly who they wanted all along at No. 7 _ regardless of whose name is called.
Good one Jerry!
April 18th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
If this happens I think Curry falls. Then what?
April 18th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
I’m covinced Al wants A Smith. He’s #1 talent and a RT so he wouldn’t step on Khalif’s toes. Al wants to open holes for DMAC and protect JRUSS. If he’s on Iv’e been debating whether he goes Crabs or Raji. I say Raji then DHB in round 2 or Crabs then M Johnson in round 2 but I lean toward the former as to what Al will do
April 18th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
yea.. lets draft another track star who cant catch.. while our pathetic front 4 couldnt stop my dead grandmother from rushing for 160 yards a game against them…. yea thats Brilliant
April 18th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Heyward-bey might still be there round 2. What about Robiskie? Guys yesterday forwarded his name.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Cant see Cleveland drafting Sanchez. If they trade its not for a QB. If they want Crabtree at 5 they can have him. No way they trade higher than seven with that package.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
There are too many moving parts in front of the Raiders which leads me to believe that Crabtree won’t be available. There are going to be some big trades this next weekend, its going to throw everything for a loop. I love the excitement of the draft.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Jerry, thanx for giving us a thread that didnt leave us with a bad taste in the mouth, for us talking football..
April 18th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Crabtree will be gone before No7.
More and more mocks are suggesting that the first three will be Stafford (Lions), Jason Smith (Rams) and Monroe (Chiefs). There is also educated speculation that the Seahawks will take Sanchez at No4.
That will have two consquences, with Sanchez gone there will be nobody wanting to trade up and it is very likely that Aaron Curry will be on the Board at No7. The Browns will go for Crabtree or Orakpo and the Bengals are focusing on upgrading their Oline – which means Andre Smith.
The Eagles deal for Peters (what a bargain) rules out the most likely trade down option. Sanchez has been visiting with the Donkeys but, Denver will need to deal with Seattle and not the Raiders.
I would love us to get Andre Smith, I would be happy with Michael Oher but, I have a growing inclination that Curry will be playing strongside for the Raiders in 2009.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Scottish
I’ve been saying for a while Curry would fall. Not sure if its what we need. If Crabtree is gone then its the best tackle left, but plenty teams want Curry. Better to trade down-which we dont do.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
JAGUARS CLOSING IN ON HOLT
Posted by Aaron Wilson on April 18, 2009, 3:35 p.m.
Unrestricted free agent wide receiver Torry Holt is on the verge of signing with the Jacksonville Jaguars, according to Chris Mortensen of ESPN.com.
Holt, who also visited the Tennessee Titans, will be joining a receiver-starved football team that has cut ties with failed wideouts Matt Jones, Jerry Porter and Reggie Wiliams this offseason.
Cut by the St. Louis Rams last month after seven Pro Bowl appearances, Holt, 32, has been limited by a recurring knee condition in recent years.
The former North Carolina State star was held to 64 receptions for 796 yards and three touchdowns last season.
According to NFL.com, Holt has caught 869 career passes for 12,660 yards and 74 touchdowns in 10 NFL seasons.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Scottish…
Where in Caledonia do you hail from?
April 18th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
i think sanchez will goto seattle. crabtree will goto cleveland once they trade edwards. unless KC sneaks in crabtree and trades gonzalez. that wauld make curry fall. i would love to get him at #7. would also love to trade down from #7 to acquire pick in either the 2nd or 3rd round depending on who we trade with and how far down in the 1st we go. i would love to get in this order
1st – ayers
2nd – robiski
3rd – chung
that would help all our needs with quality players. ayers would be great in our 4-3 defense and remember that burgess is a free agent after this year so getting ayers now will be a need we wont need for next year. and would greatly help our defense this year. we have had no pass rush the last 2 years. 2 quality bookends like burgess and ayers would be great. and chung is awsome at stopping the run which is another big need.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
John Marshall’s defensive line game plan against the NFC East, Steelers and Ravens with the talent on the roster.
http://www.moviesoundclips.net/movies1/braveheart/country.mp3
April 18th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Culpepper lobbied hard for Ronald Curry. I bet the Lions have been leaning on drafting Matt Stafford but at the last minute, they’re going to draft OLB Aaron Curry and that will twist everything.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
The trouble with Scotland is that its full of Scots. Aye! Too right! Cheers SnB
April 18th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
NU/Braveheart, I just don’t see many teams wanting to trade up for Curry. He is a great talent but he is best suited to 4:3 schemes and most LB needy teams are looking to play 3:4 – hence the demand for hybrids/tweeners like Orakpo, Maybin and Brown. I think it is unlikely that we will get any trade offers unless Sanchez is still on the Board.
I would be delighted with a LB trio of Howard, Morrison and Curry. SAM isn’t our greatest need but it could be our safest investment.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
To finally add that 3rd linebacker would be awesome. 3 young guys…Howard, Morrison and Curry. It has a great sound.If we could beef up the defensive line to protect these guys, they could wreak so much havok.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
MADDEN SAYS HE WON’T JOIN RAIDERS
Posted by Mike Florio on April 18, 2009, 9:24 a.m.
During the 2008 season, a rumor was making the rounds among the Bay Area media that John Madden would retire from broadcasting and then join the Raiders in a front-office role.
On Friday, Madden said that, despite his retirement from broadcasting, he won’t be going to work for the Raiders.
“I have too much respect for the game and for Al to think that I can do anything,” Madden said during a daily appearance on KCBS radio, according to David White of the San Francisco Chronicle. “The way the game is today, that’s a 20-hour a day job. You can’t go in part-time or just stick your toe in the water to be a part of a pro football team. You either do it or you don’t.”
Per White, Davis said a couple of years ago that Madden would “have to be considered” as a potential consultant after his run on television ended. During a press conference last September, Davis dropped hints of a potential hire that prompted some to think he was referring to Madden.
“That foot in the bucket, half in, half out, I’ve seen people try that and it doesn’t work,” Madden said. “So there’s no way that I could do anything.”
That said, Bill Parcells has done fairly well for himself in a part-time role with the Dolphins.
But maybe Madden’s concern is that his passion for the game is too great to allow him to do the job on a drive-by basis. So when Madden says it “doesn’t work,” we think he might be referring to the reality that he wouldn’t be able to limit himself to a limited role.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Hey Braveheart, where are you from in Caledonia?
April 18th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
I tend to think that Madden is too big for Al Davis. You can’t take those 2 big names and put them together. Without intending to, Madden would be stepping on Al Davis’ toes and its obvious that the majority of people love Madden over Al Davis. They are both extremely popular but Al Davis is the Darkside while Madden is the light of the Force. If the Raiders started having any kind of success, you have to wonder whether Davis would get jealous and their relationship would get sour. Sometimes, there can be too many stars on one team and that could be what Madden means when he says it would be disrespectful to Al Davis. Both our icons and he doesn’t want to help diminish that.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
One of the reasons that I think the Chiefs will pass on Curry is that Brian Waters has stayed away from Vol Camp and is looking for a trade. It seems inevitable that Waters will go, and that makes it far more likely that the Chiefs will have to draft an OLineman – probably Monroe.
If the Chiefs pass on Curry, I can’t see him going to the Seahawks, Bengals or Browns.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
To hell with Curry and Rey
Take that kid Kaulua Maulakaaa… the other Polynesian native Hawaiian that is out of USC. The kid is a good player and may as be the next lofa tutupa he is 5″11 229 but he ran a 4.8 and stacks up high on most of the combine measurables. He sounds like the steal of the third round.
Crabtree 1
Loadholt 2
km -3
Chirs Clemmons or Quinn (TE UNC) in 4
We would have a stud o lineman with some beef, a stud WR, a stud middle line backer that Marshall can mold into the next Lofa,
and some other need or freak athelete in the 4th.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Culpepper is down to 260 pounds, his lightest playing weight since he arrived in the league out of Central Florida.
He was admittedly pushing maximum density a year ago when the Lions brought him in last seaon, having ballooned up to the 290-pound mark.
“I was probably about 290 when I came here last year,” Culpepper said. “When you’re retired, you don’t pay a lot of attention to what you’re eating or how you are working out.
“I was 266 my first year as a starter, and I’m below that now. I feel great right now, but I still think I can get into better shape. I don’t have a number in mind. It is just about the way I feel.”
April 18th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Mmmmmmm Caledonia…. I love Caledonia /80 =) hard to come by at these parts of the continent :/
April 18th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
The Buffalo Bills have struck a two-year deal with unrestricted free agent running back Dominic Rhodes, according to Steve Wyche of NFL.com.
Per the report, Rhodes’ contract is filled with incentive clauses.
A former Indianapolis Colts starter, Rhodes rushed for 538 yards and six touchdowns last season.
As a third-down back last year, Rhodes caught 45 passes for 302 yards and three touchdowns.
For his career, Rhodes has rushed for 3,114 career yards and 26 touchdowns.
UPDATE: In an interview with Alex Marvez of FOXSports.com on Sirius NFL Radio, Rhodes said he was informed by Bills team officials that he could be called upon to start the team’s opening game of the regular season Sept. 14 against the New England Patriots.
Bills Pro Bowl running back Marshawn Lynch has been hit with a three-game suspension for violating the NFL’s personal conduct policy.
“They’re looking for big production out of me,” Rhodes said. “I am ready.”
April 18th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
end the end it`s all about production.mike mayock has maclin listed at #2 wr in the draft.here is a short clip of the top 5 wr in the draft.
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80fad1ff
April 18th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Wozniacki did it again! LOL this is huge =)
April 18th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
blackdeath29 Says:
April 18th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
end the end it`s all about production.mike mayock has maclin listed at #2 wr in the draft.here is a short clip of the top 5 wr in the draft.
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Mike Mayock on Maclin
“My only concern issue with Mr. Maclin is he is going to have to learn how to run the route tree, he didn’t have to do that at the University of Missouri in their spread offense”
It took the Raiders 2yrs to get Higgins to start running proper routes. No thanks.
Let’s give John Marshall some tools to work with so he won’t have to offer a truce in the face of the NFC East running attacks.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
end the end it`s all about production.maclin has 22 receiving touchdowns in 28 games.second only to crabtree.
April 18th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
blackdeath29 Says:
April 18th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
end the end it`s all about production.maclin has 22 receiving touchdowns in 28 games.second only to crabtree.
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Production in college though? Missourah threw the ball 2/3rds of the time. How much of this “production” is due to the pass happy nature of the offense.
How many receptions would Robiskie get in the Missourah offense?
April 18th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
i just looked at mayocks mock draft from last year and he only got 4 picks right
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d8079e2e4&template=with-video&confirm=true
April 18th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
I would want a physical receiver at this point. JLH gets down the field and has speed. Schilens has speed and is MORE physical than Maclin.
And I would not want to pay a slot receiver like Williamson (ooops) Maclin $20 million
April 18th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
end the end it`s all about production.with 6 td`s on runs from the line of scrimage.maclin has 28 td`s from the offensive side of the ball that`s 28 td`s in 28 games.
April 18th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
I’ll take Curry and I’d put him at MLB.
April 18th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
blackdeath29 Says:
April 18th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
end the end it`s all about production.with 6 td`s on runs from the line of scrimage.maclin has 28 td`s from the offensive side of the ball that`s 28 td`s in 28 games.
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If its all about production…then why isn’t Graham Harrell and Chase Daniel not top 10 prospects?
April 18th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
end the end it`s all about prodution.with 5 td`s(3pr,2kr)on special teams that`s 33 total td`s in 28 games.second only to crabtree 41 td`s.
April 18th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Wow this new registration is great I quit posting for awhile due to the junk posts that random ppl were making.
Anyways all great insights on what’s to come next weekend. My little piece to add to the forum is that Denver has a lot of fire power at 12 and 18th overall. What is these guys trade with Carolina for peppers?? He wants to be a 3-4 end and denver is making the switch. Do u guys see this happening?
If it does I hope we get a good blocking TE to doublt team him.
April 18th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
end the end it`s all about production.
jeramy maclin
In addition to his exploits as the team’s clutch receiver and third-down specialist (22 of his 55 first-down catches in 2008 came on third-down snaps), Maclin also provided Tiger fans with the opportunity of seeing one of the most explosive kickoff and punt returners in the collegiate game. He would go on to be the only player in school history to score on a reception, a rushing attempt, a punt return and kickoff return.
April 18th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
To get a good discussion going:
Who do u want the raiders to pick in this draft and why? Pick your guys for rounds 1-3 and list why you want them.
Personally I have two options I would like either
Option one:
1) Best tackler available at 7 probably michael oher. We do not have enough protection for Russell
2) Robiskie or Barden in round 2 to get some sure handed targets
3) Chip Vaughn SS from wake forest. 220lbs and 4.4 speed
Option two:
1) Crabtree not sure about his speed but both Boldin and Fitz ran 4.7 and look at their production.
2) Rone Brace to be a stop gap
3) Chip Vaughn see above
That’s my picks and they all fill need. I think we have done enough in FA to shore up the line but if Oher can be there for 10 years let him.
April 18th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
JT52 ,
out of the choices i like option 2.
p.s. bolden ran a 4.7,fitzgerald ran a 4.4.
April 18th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
# Twocents Says:
April 18th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
I’ll take Curry and I’d put him at MLB.
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and how would you get him?
April 18th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Fitz never ran a 40 and if you can prove it post a link
April 18th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
LMN,
On the off chance that he falls to us at #7.
Just dreaming.
April 18th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
If Curry falls to 7 I would like The Raiders to take him and then take Brace in Round 2. I think that would dramatically improve the D. I have hopes at WR that Higgins will continue to improve. He is a touchdown just waiting to happen every time he touches the ball. I also hope for improvement from Schilens. He has size and speed. I hope that Walker can come back and give something and that Shields turns out to be a player. It is just hope on all of those WR’s, but I think it is legitimate hope. If we do take a WR I hope he turns out to be a great player, but if we don’t start stopping the run we will not turn this team around.
April 18th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
1st – ayers
2nd – robiski or britt
3rd – chung
April 18th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
# Twocents Says:
April 18th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
LMN,
On the off chance that he falls to us at #7.
Just dreaming.
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LOL, then I would take him too, and use him as a MLB… and then take Robiskie in 2nd!
April 18th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
LMN,
We must be related, someday I will tell you about my Danish bloodlines.
April 18th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
larry fitzgerald 40 time.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=27220&draftyear=2004&genpos=WR
April 18th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
if it isn’t a combine time it probably isn’t credible
April 18th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
TwoCents..
LOL! ok, im on with the dreamgame
1st Curry (7)
2nd Robiskie (40)
3rd Fili Maola (71)
4th (126) SS, OLB/DE type
7th (216) FB
April 18th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Isn’t Maualuga more physical than Aaron Curry? Is Curry more like Thomas Howard?
April 18th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
man, this draft is shaping up to be a really good one. so many surprises, so many different ways things can happen. i dont think ive ever been this excited about a draft. id be happy with either crabtree, maclin, curry, or one of the 4 O lineman.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
LMN,
I’m kind of intrigued by Moala also.
But then, I’m partial to USC players.
I’m of the opinion that USC would give the Raiders all they could handle, head to head.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
24 Says:
April 18th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Isn’t Maualuga more physical than Aaron Curry? Is Curry more like Thomas Howard?
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Mau struggles in space,can’t cover RBs or TEs at the next level and is a better hitter than tackler.
Curry is supposed to be the best ALL AROUND LB. Covers, tackles, run stops. Best technician at the position.
I think KC would like to have a Derrick Thomas quality LB at 3…
April 18th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
I’m hoping if we go Crab one of those FA s we picked up can pass protect…
April 18th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Im actually not that keen on USC players, but he is the best DT in the middle rounds!
April 18th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
24,
I see Maualuga as the more physical MLB, absolutely. I guess I’m just saying that I’d rather have Curry as our MLB than Morrison.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
1st – curry or ayers
2nd – robiski or britt
3rd – chung
April 18th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
On the Cheifs home site an informal poll shows 67% want Curry over anybody else.
They’ve made a big deal about the RUMORS Eugene Monroe had bad knee tests at the combine.
If he slips to 7 does Oakland take him OR Smith?
Heres the deal with Smith, CAN’T MOVE TO HIS LEFT!!!
He’d have to be right side and isn;t ideal for the ZBS.
Dam site better than Green though Id bet…
April 18th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Twocents ,
like all college teams usc would get killed by any pro team.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Andre Smith:
“Lateral Movement: An area of concern. Smith is either lethargic in his kick slide or has issues moving laterally due to his girth and soft midsection. He has had a very hard time handling edge rushers when having to slide to his left. He has the speed and angle concepts to get into the second level on screens or running plays, but he does get lazy driving his feet, allowing defenders a chance to slip off his blocks. “
April 18th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Andre Smith:
“Pass Blocking: Smith is a much better pass blocker with a defender over his head than when having to slide out and mirror an edge rusher. He just seems to lack the lateral flexibility needed to stay with his man when the opponent attacks the backfield off the wide loop. He has the hand punch to pop and control, but for some reason, he would rather absorb defenders rather than initiate contact in pass protection. All of his negative plays in the backfield came against quicker pass rushers (does a much better job vs. the bull rush). With his deep kick-slide and longer arms, should be able to stave off the edge rush, but it is obvious that he has issues going to his left.”
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1255104
April 18th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Crapola. All the war room GMs will pucker up when the time comes and pick the safest bets when it comes time. Aaron Curry will be gone as will Crabs. A coupla OTs will be gone and perhaps a QB. QB safe bet? Not at all but there isn’t shinola out there to spend 50 million on. A rookie salary cap would make it so much more fair for the poor turds who have to pick first.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Nnamdi21,
I’m always wrong when it comes to predicting the Raiders draft.
I don’t think were taking a T in the first round.
Al has signed four OL, five if you count the late season acquisition of Marten.
If Crabtree is gone, I would not be surprised if he stretched for Heyward-Bey.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Blackdeath29,
I know it was a ridiculous statement but sometimes the Raiders are just so bad I have to wonder.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Nnamdi21,
yes, but…
Andre, Oher, Maclin, BJ, Maluaga,OraGholstonkpo – they’re all flawed. And??..
April 18th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
The point I was trying to make regarding Maualuga and Curry is that we have guys like Curry in our linebacking core with Howard and Morrison. What we lack is the physical presence that we truly need and Curry could very well get pushed around the way the guys we already have do. Maualuga would give us something different that we lack that Morrison or Howard or even Curry can’t give us. Thats what makes him more valuable in my opinion.
April 18th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
If The Raiders do take a WR Crabtree would be my first choice, but if he is gone I would prefer Maclin. He plays fast on the field no matter what his forty time says, and I like his wonderlick scores. I think that someone with his intelligence would understand the concepts and catch on to running routes a lot faster than Higgins has.
April 18th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
In less than a week we will know.
April 18th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
You wanna safe pick? Draft Knowshon Moreno. I see that kid as the most dynamic player available. The Raiders already have McTurftoe so it won’t happen, but damn, I think he’s gonna be the Adrian Peterson of this class. Pity the Raiders if they have to defend against him twice per year.
April 18th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Lonetree – The Defense to Moreno could be Maualuga…Possibly the next Ray Lewis.
April 18th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
24 how can u say Curry will be a guy to get pushed around? The guy is a physical presence on the field. I do not have his stats in fron of me but I believe he is 6′3 255lbs with 4.56 speed at 30 reps at 225. If that is a small linebacker then I do not know what u think is big
Curry would honestly be my first choice if he was on the board however it is highly unlikely.
Curry covers, reads and reacts without taking false angles and is a sure fire tackler. Tomlinson would not find an edge with Curry on the field plain and simple
April 18th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
24,
yes, ReyRey said all the right things about being a grown-up now. I believe him. He is a man. Moreno is a receiver as much as a running back. How could Maualuga cover him?
April 18th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Lonetree – I wasn’t intending Maualuga to cover him. The MLB doesn’t usually cover. The OLB’s do and Morrison and Howard can handle that just fine.
April 18th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
curry is bigger and faster and stronger than maualuga.maualuga hits harder,but curry makes more tackles.
maualuga- 79 tackles 2.5 tackles for loss 0 sacks 4 pass break ups 2 int`s.
curry-105 tackles 16 tackles for loss 2.5 sacks 3 pass breal up 1 int.
April 18th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Aaron Curry
Height: 6-13/4 | Weight: 254 | 40-Time: 4.56
Official Bio
Strengths:
Possesses a terrific blend of size and bulk…Exceptional speed, quickness and athleticism…Very physical and tough…Excellent strength and power…Extremely aggressive…Outstanding instincts and awareness…Offers a lot of versatility…Reliable tackler who will deliver the big hit…Really uses his hands well…Does a nice job of taking on and shedding blockers…Superb pass rusher and blitzer…Has sideline-to-sideline range…Will attack and fill against the run…Comfortable in space…Can match up and make plays in coverage…Has a lot of experience…Durable and never missed a game due to injury…Smart…Hard worker…Team leader…Super productive.
Weaknesses:
Can be too aggressive at times and will overpursue…Not quite as tall as you’d prefer…Pass rush repertoire is limited…Marginal change of direction skills…May have some trouble when it comes to recognition in coverage….Is not particularly fluid when he is forced to flip his hips.
Notes:
Won the Butkus Award, which honors the nation’s top linebacker, as a senior…Brother Patrick Pinkney was a quarterback at East Carolina…Was a four-year starter in the ACC…In 2007 he took all four of his interceptions back for touchdowns, with an average return of 56.5 yards…Could play outside or inside in either a 4-3 or 3-4 defensive scheme…A marvelous all-around player who is effective in every aspect of the game…As good as any linebacker prospect to come along in recent memory…A legitimate Top 10 talent who should be one of the most highly rated players available for the 2009 NFL Draft.
Career Statistics
Year GP TKL TFL SACK PBU INT
2004 RS - - - - -
2005 11 45 7.5 1.0 5 0
2006 14 83 8.5 3.0 3 1
2007 13 99 13.5 3.0 4 4
2008 13 105 16.0 2.5 3 1
Totals 51 332 45.5 9.5 12 6
April 18th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
24
sho’ ’nuff.
April 18th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
For some reason…I was thinking Curry was about 240lbs. My bad. He does struggle in coverage according to his report though.
April 18th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Rey Maualuga
Height: 6-13/4 | Weight: 249 | 40-Time: 4.82
Official Bio
Strengths:
Has excellent size and bulk…Extremely aggressive…Tough and physical…A violent, intimidating presence who can really deliver the big hit…Good instincts…Very strong…Explosive…Reads and reacts quickly…Does a nice job of taking on and shedding blockers…Will step up and fill against the run…Solid pass rusher and blitzer…Plays faster than he times and has a burst…Has shown the ability to make big plays in coverage…Productive with a knack for making game-changing plays… Offers schematic versatility…Is still improving and has upside.
Weaknesses:
Does not have elite timed speed…Inconsistent…Can be too aggressive at times…Always looking to deliver the knockout blow and will miss some tackles…Does not always take proper angles…Lacks fluid hips…May struggle to match up in coverage…Average change of direction skills…Range is somewhat limited…Will get caught out of position at times… Still immature…Ran into some trouble off the field.
Notes:
Best fit may be inside in a 3-4 scheme but could also play the middle in a 4-3…A three-year starter for the Trojans…Would have been a Top 15 pick in the 2008 NFL Draft but opted to return to school for his senior season…Was arrested on suspicion of misdemeanor battery after allegedly punching a man during a party in 2005…Has faced team disciplinary action on more than one occasion…Was the MVP of the Rose Bowl as a junior when he recorded 3 sacks and an interception…Has star potential if he can keep his head on straight … Impact linebacker who can take over and dominate games.
Career Statistics
Year GP TKL TFL SACK PBU INT
2005 12 37 4.5 1.0 2 1
2006 13 78 5.0 2.0 3 1
2007 13 79 10.5 6.0 3 1
2008 12 79 2.5 0.0 4 2
Totals 50 273 22.5 9.0 12 5
April 18th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Ok…I was off somewhere. I can see why Curry is more coveted than Maualuga. Hmmm…this damn draft.
April 18th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Gotta go. Peace.
April 18th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
hell, if you just want stats then look at Zack Follett’s numbers out of Cal. Sacks, tackles for losses, All-Pac-Ten etc. No ESPN hype though.
April 18th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
this draft is awesome.i love it.most i`ve ever been involved.
April 18th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
I like Rey as a presence in the middle however I was reading an article on NFL.com the other day about how the tru MLB is being faded out as teams are switching to the 3-4 and the OLBs are more prominent in their roles now.
I was not pleased with Reys forty at the combine but he got hurt. The 4.67 he ran at the pro day is very respectable but he was also down in the 240lbs range when he did it and his bench reps suffered because of it.
Bottom line I would rather have curry out there keeping the edges contained and covering sum flats until the nickel package is needed
April 18th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
follett played olb in a 3-4 as a sr.if the raiders played a 3-4 i would be screaming for follett.i still want alex mack with the second pick.
April 18th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
JT52 Says:
April 18th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
I like Rey as a presence in the middle however I was reading an article on NFL.com the other day about how the tru MLB is being faded out as teams are switching to the 3-4 and the OLBs are more prominent in their roles now.
I was not pleased with Reys forty at the combine but he got hurt. The 4.67 he ran at the pro day is very respectable but he was also down in the 240lbs range when he did it and his bench reps suffered because of it.
Bottom line I would rather have curry out there keeping the edges contained and covering sum flats until the nickel package is needed
Thing is we need a 4-3 MLB with a physical presence. Rey can provide that and would make the defense something to fear. Kirk belongs outside because he has superior coverage
April 18th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Notes:
Best fit may be inside in a 3-4 scheme but could also play the middle in a 4-3…A three-year starter for the Trojans…Would have been a Top 15 pick in the 2008 NFL Draft but opted to return to school for his senior season…Was arrested on suspicion of misdemeanor battery after allegedly punching a man during a party in 2005…Has faced team disciplinary action on more than one occasion…Was the MVP of the Rose Bowl as a junior when he recorded 3 sacks and an interception…Has star potential if he can keep his head on straight … Impact linebacker who can take over and dominate games.
See this last paragraph sums up why I want him. Gimme a mean bastard please. He is the only impact player besides Curry would start Day 1 in Oakland
April 18th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Brien the General 510 ,
with out a d-line rey maualuga will scare no o.c.rey weighs 249 nfl line go up wards of 350 at tackle and would tee off on him.300+ vs 249 16 games a year.if rey was on washington with haynesworth he would take somebodys head off.new englang or s.f. would also be a good fit .
April 18th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
blackdeath29 Says:
April 18th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Brien the General 510 ,
with out a d-line rey maualuga will scare no o.c.rey weighs 249 nfl line go up wards of 350 at tackle and would tee off on him.300+ vs 249 16 games a year.if rey was on washington with haynesworth he would take somebodys head off.new englang or s.f. would also be a good fit .
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Stay with your constant defense of Kirk if you want but dont complain next year when the Defense somehow still stinks. Kirk being moved from MLB is essential to this team making a playoff run
April 18th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Kirk’s coverage at OLB is much more needed. We need a true NT and true MLB to make this defense bad ass. Also need a RDE and SS
April 18th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
i am not defending kirk.rey is a better run stuffing mlb than kirk.but with out a d-line rey would not be a major up-grade.
April 18th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
April 18th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
If Curry falls to 7 I would like The Raiders to take him and then take Brace in Round 2. I think that would dramatically improve the D. I have hopes at WR that Higgins will continue to improve. He is a touchdown just waiting to happen every time he touches the ball. I also hope for improvement from Schilens. He has size and speed. I hope that Walker can come back and give something and that Shields turns out to be a player. It is just hope on all of those WR’s, but I think it is legitimate hope. If we do take a WR I hope he turns out to be a great player, but if we don’t start stopping the run we will not turn this team around.
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you got my vote
April 18th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
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April 18th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Brien
All of your comments for a true MIKE is correct and right on!
My only reason I don’t believe they will go in that direction is a pressing need to protect Jamarcus and Dmac with a offensive player either LT or WR.
Your MLB is in the defensive scheme of things is a difficult decision due to the MLB is usually taken off the field when the teams go to a three WR set, which in the NFL breaks down to 25 times a game.
Last years NFL stats show the average team wil have 53 snaps and of those three WR’s are in that formations 25 times. If Rey is your guy than Morrisson stays on the field and Rey leaves. The overall play from Rey will be great but on a part time basis, Rey will be out there for only 30 snaps based on the NFL stats.
This doesn’t account for a pass play called when he is even on the field, so his drops and reads will have to correct to defend the pass.
His value will be as a part time player, and the cost of $20 million guaranteed will be a deciding factor.
I’ve seen your comments, even if you can comment in all of your positive points, Rey will still need a true NT, and DE to be as effective as you say.
My points are not to refute his ability, just being practical as a Raider Man.
April 18th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
I’m with you 24,
Trade down to one of the teams in the middle of the 1st round who want a QB and draft Maualuga.
I saw that the Browns are supposedly interested in either Crabtree or Sanchez and that’s it at No. 5. I don’t buy it for a second. Either the Browns are floating this story in hopes of getting someone to trade up with them for the No. 5 pick or one of the teams ahead of them is. Why would the Browns ever draft Sanchez when they have Quinn and Anderson on roster and a ton of other needs to fill. They may be interested in Crabtree but I don’t put any stock in this rumor. Convenient how those are probably the only two guys anyone is likely to move up to get.
April 18th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Raider Dell,
very well put.rey is a great college mlbbut all 4-3 mlb need a good d-line in front of them.look at the contracts in the nfl.qb`s highest paid,than left tackle,than guys who can rush the passer.
April 18th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
The only problem with trading down is that it requires a trade partner who is willing to give a legitimate price for that pick. I would be willing to trade down, but I would want something close to the NFL trade value chart in return, and most teams are not willing to give that up when it means that they are going to have to pay the big contract to the player that they pick, unless of course there is a player there who they think is going to be a huge difference maker for them.
April 18th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
1- Monroe/ Orakpo/ Raji/ A Smith
2- DE: M Johnson/ WR: DHB
3- S: Vaughn/ Bruton/ C Clemons
4- DT : Dorell Scott, Sammie Lee, Khalif Mitchell, or T Taylor/ DE: Clinton McD
7- OLB: Russell Allen SDSU, or TY Sales from Penn.
April 18th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Why are you guys talking about taking a line backer? That is the least of the of the needs on defense , D-linemen and secondary help are the weakest links on defense not line backer. The 7th pick is not worthy of any of the talent available unless we trade it for a starter which I don’t see happening. I would even trade out of the first just to get as many pick as we could to fill the holes.
April 18th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Raiderkoolaid you hit it on the head.
April 18th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Blackdeath
Rey is no doubt will be a excellent MLB, whomever drafts him. I personally think we need to have a OT either right or left and our second pick should be a DE.
Jackson from LSU is moving up the draft board, I don’t think he would be a stretch at number 7, he can play in the 4-3 and all snaps as a DE, but is his value at No. 7 worth that number in the draft.
April 18th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Next year we can draft WRs and LBs in higher RDs if needed.
This draft and the next are deep with DEs and DTs, and we have to take advantage of that. Both positions are a need for the Raiders.
Next year is goodfor Ss too, but not as deep as this year.
Or
We can Draft WR , S , and OT this year, and draft a DE and DT next year.
We can draft Mays next year.
April 18th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
You would think somebody wants Sanchez bad enough to trade up to get him like the Jets or even the Niners. Then we could get the extra picks or starter we need.
April 18th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Drafting at seven is like paying big money for a free agent that turned out to be nonproductive like we saw last year.
April 18th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Raider O
I will disagree with you one comment about DT are deep in this years draft. Most scouts have said this year’s draft is DT challenged. In fact Mayock grades this years players at the DT position as a D+.
My point to you is where would Raji be compared to last year as a DT, would he be better than Sedrick Ellis, Glen Dorsey. I think not, he may be third or fourth compared to last years DT class.
The draft this year has quality players but none that jump out and say I got to have him, that’s why this year draft is so unpredictable, and players can go in many different spots.
April 18th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Lynn
Who would you draft to have that player as the player who wouldn’t be a draft bust in your opinion.
That’s the million dollar question.
April 18th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
We are not ready to win a SB, but we can use this draft and the next to build a SB team.
We have great young TALENT at key positions:
QB: JR has a lot of upside. As a 1st year starter, he finished with 12 TDs, 8 INTs, and over 55% CMP.
RB: DMC and Bush. Goth averaged over 4 yards per carry.
TE: Zach Miller: he can be a PB TE for many years. Leader in catches on the team for 2 years.
WR: JLH will be a great slot WR and return man, Chaz has potential, and Arman is unknown. We can upgrade, but not a huge need.
OL: Gallery, Satele, Maybe Mario, and who else is young and Talented?
We need O Line on Offense and maybe a WR.
Deffense is next.
April 18th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Taking Brace in the 2nd or Mack late in the first I just think the value in this draft is not at the top of the 1st round
April 18th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
CB: we have Nnamdi, and SR who hash done much.
S: we have Branch and Huff. Huff I’m ready to give up on, and branch is unproven, but has talent.
LBs: Kirk and TH can be PBs, after we fix the D line. We need one more.
DE: we have T Scott who lead all rookies in sacks, but that’s it.
DT: we have TK.
We need DTs, DEs, and a S. After we fix these positions, then we can add LB.
April 18th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Defense should be first , we need to plug the holes in this boat before put it in the water.
April 18th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Sorry Raider O I jumped the gun on you there.
April 18th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Dell,
When I said deep, I didn’t meant that you will find 1st RD talent in the 2nd cause it’s deep.
I meant, there is descent talent in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. IMO
April 18th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Raider O
Thanks for the response and correction. I like your comments regarding our draft preferences this year.
I would be good with either a DE, or LT and the picks can be reversed based on player availability.
April 18th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
It’s all good bro.
So our needs are:
DT/ DE
SS
OT
LB/ WR
In that order, what do you think?
April 18th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
If your asking my opinion I’d say your on the money with LB last.
April 18th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
Dell,
I should have been more clear, but like I said. Talent like Brace, Sammie Lee, Magee, Khalif Mitchell, or T Taylor are upgrades over what we have in Warren, Sands, and William J.
I want us to draft Raji, but:
He had issues at college.
He has weight issues
Al will not draft a guy that high that doesn’t have ideal size and speed.
April 18th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
We’ll find the answers next week . gotta go
April 18th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
If you are Al, who to you want to pay 50- 60 Mil?
Monroe, Curry, Raji, Orakpo, A Smith, Crab, or Maclin?
Raji and Crab don’t have ideal size and speed.
Maclin and crab are good, but how much can a rookie WR help the Offense?!
A Smith and Raji have weight issues.
That leaves Monroe, Orakpo, and Curry.
I will be happy with any of them.
Then I like Raji, A Smith, and the 2 WRs. In that order.
April 18th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Later bro.
I can’t wait for next weekend.
April 18th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Raider O
Your response to Raji is spot on!
My question is the Raider staff, coaches and scouts have identified a position of need and have formed a grade for players in rounds of availability.
Back to my question, what position is needed to draft a player to fill the need. To the fans we see bad defense, run stopping and bad OT position needs.
They have broken down film and the new staff of coaches may see positions that they can correct and that’s were we have no idea what player they have there sights on to draft.
This years draft has four LT’S that can play, with the top two a slightly grade better than the next two.
That can be a position need and don’t be fooled by the recent signings of the two LT’s.
April 18th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Raider O
Well see soon, thanks for the comments. Later man and take care.
April 18th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Later Dell.
We will find out next week. lol
April 18th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
I don’t see the Browns drafting for offense with their first pick. 17 sacks last year; second worst in the league behind KC, and Mangini’s a defensive guy.
People keep saying that they’ll take Crabtree at 5 if they trade Braylon Edwards, but part of their asking price for Edwards is a starting WR, so you know they’re not wanting to use that first pick on a wideout.
There will be hell to pay in Cleveland if they don’t go defense. If they go offense at all they’d be more likely to go with Beanie Wells or Knowshon Moreno; Jamaal Anderson is their best back and he’s not a young man anymore.
April 18th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
my ultimate draft.
trade down to get into middle of 1st round and aquire another 2nd or 3rd round pick.
1st – ayers
2nd – britt or robiski
2nd or 3rd via trade – barden or chung
April 18th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
even mike mayock says in 3 yrs you will see that ayers will be best player to come out of this draft. chung is a great safety that is great against the run. probably get in 3rd round.
April 18th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Offensive tackle or Raji.
Please.
We need better linemen.
April 18th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
If we trade down, and get a 2nd, 4th, and 5th.
1- Oher
2- DE: R Ayers/ M Johnson
2- Ramses B
3- DT: Dorell Scott / Alex Magee
4- Bruton
4- OLB: J williams/ Z Follett
5- DE: L Sidbury/ Clinton McD
7- TE: Bear Pascoe
April 18th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
That is a dream draft.
We fix all of our needs with one draft.
No wonder I’m not a GM.
April 18th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
It all starts upfront. Our offensive and defnsive lines are the weakest in the league. Even with Gruden our lines were nothing to write home abour. Gannon covered up a lot of warts.
April 19th, 2009 at 5:01 am
6 more days!!!
Tick, tick, tick…….
April 19th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Yes Jerry, those draft picks, Crabtree, Hayes and Maclin would rival the Huff pick because they will never reach their potential with our mediocre “O” line in front of a QB in JR whose work ethic was called out by Cable. The reason the Raiders have been bad for a very long time is the bad drafting and signing of free agents.
There is still only mediocre talent on the “O” line, even with the new additions and remains the single reason for the last six losing seasons. The ZBS should not be a panacea for talent as the running game is the most important aspect of the offense. The proverbial war is won in the trenches first. KC gets it as they draft what the Raiders should have had last year, a starting LT and DT. They bring in a proven QB in Matt Cassell instead of trying to develope a rookie QB behind a mediocre “O” line. I like JR but the Raiders will never get back to the playoffs until they build a dominant lines to support the players behind them. The Raiders already have decent receivers but they too will never reach their potential with the mediocre “O” line.
April 19th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
The raiders dont have enough draft choices to make imediate impact. They should just focus on ol or defense. Just accept the fact that this will be another 4-12 5-11, the only consolation is the broncos will be there also. The only thing is the Donkeys have 9 picks with 2 #1s this year and the same next year.Al ruined this franchise. The only hope is to bring in Marty, the guy that used to coach in Pittsburgh or make friends again with Shanny. Although nobody worth anything will coach here.
April 20th, 2009 at 9:03 am
I like Crabtree. If we don’t get Crabtree, then we should get an blue chip OT to help McFadden, J Russell, & M Bush. If they are not available, a blue chip DT to stop the run will help. Too many busts are related to drug use, overweight and lack of discipline. These are mental deficiencies. Injuries can heal but you cannot play in the NFL with a mental deficiency. The Raiders in the 70’s got away with this because their talent made up for it. They can’t do it now so a combination of a good mindset and talent is the way to go.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:29 am
The thing that I am amazed about is Seattle MAY take Sanchez at 4 and pay him #4 money to basically sit for two years?? Doesn’t make sense…..Seattle needs O-Line and LB help.
I also keep hearing that the Browns may take Crabtree at 5?? They need DEFENSIVE help badly….especially in that rough division they are in and they need an explosive RB with vision ahead of a WR.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:29 am
If Crabtree and A Smith are gone….the Raiders need to trade down.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:32 am
edward teach Says:
April 18th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
I don’t see the Browns drafting for offense with their first pick. 17 sacks last year; second worst in the league behind KC, and Mangini’s a defensive guy.
People keep saying that they’ll take Crabtree at 5 if they trade Braylon Edwards, but part of their asking price for Edwards is a starting WR, so you know they’re not wanting to use that first pick on a wideout.
There will be hell to pay in Cleveland if they don’t go defense. If they go offense at all they’d be more likely to go with Beanie Wells or Knowshon Moreno; Jamaal Anderson is their best back and he’s not a young man anymore.
^^^^^^
I have been saying the samething about the Browns. They need defensive help BADLY and they need a RB more than WR!
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