Raiders live chat with Jerry McDonald, Tuesday, 1 p.m. PDT
By Jon Becker
Monday, April 20th, 2009 at 3:55 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Join Jerry McDonald for some pre-NFL draft talk on Tuesday, April 21 at 1 p.m. PDT during our weekly Raiders live chat.
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April 20th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
http://tfdssports.com/2009/03/31/raiders-2007-draft-revisited.html
April 20th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
We’ve had a bad D-line for years.
We’ve been weak at Safety for years.
Haven’t had a great Left Tackle for years.
That’s what I don’t understand.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Yeah Nader64, 07 was a good draft.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
NJRaiderfan Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
if we draft an OT, it will set this team back for years to come.
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lol, yep, it would suck to have a good tackle for once. How awful that would be!!!
April 20th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
07 and 08 drafts were both pretty good. Free agency (and trades) in 07 and 08 have been awful.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
bfd, its not tuesday…its monday, ya Jerry, we need a days notice to prepare for your stimulating live blog.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
I just hope that with the five picks we have (presently) we can fill the four positions of need that Cable has in mind.
If we can do that it will be three years in a row with a good draft class.
Not bad.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
I don’t want an OT at #7, but if he is not a complete flop, I don’t know how that would set us back for years to come.
We need good players at every position. Competition and depth are good things. We have little of both.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Most experts all consider Maclin to be a player at 20 something on draft boards,..hopefully Al wont take him at 7 due to some supposed speed,…we have enough fast guys that arent very good already,…if its a wr take crabtree,…maclins a bum.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Saint,
When I see a post from you, I remember McGiver.
I can’t help it . lol
April 20th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
D line is our greatest need, If nobody is there worth the 7th pick trade down instead of reaching for a dude that looks good getting off the bus.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
A month or so ago I pointed out that the Raiders had only one single offensive tackle on the roster that had any business being a starter in the NFL, Super Mario. They have since signed Khalil to the minimum. So, perhaps they have two legitimate starting OTs on the roster. The rest are just bodies to fill a space.
One tweaked knee or one strained bicep and the same worthless OT act we’ve seen for years again becomes the reality.
I voted for Oher. The Round Mound of Tuscaloosa Renoun would be okay, but what the heck, the homeless kid deserves the big bucks, deserves to be a Raider.
Thought – How often was, on a play by play basis, Maclin covered by NFL quality DBs?
April 20th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Mike Lombardi is a tool,..cant let it go,..hes a scorned woman….its sad really.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
The guys on NFLN say Maclin plays slot in a spread offense and had a lot of bubble screen plays thrown his way.
I am sure he will adjust to being the number one WR in an offense that rarely, if ever under Cable, runs WR screen plays.
But he is fast, and can return kicks and punts (although we already have that covered.)
April 20th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Scottish,
quite coherent board you put up on the last post.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Maclin = bubble boy
April 20th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
later
April 20th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Nader,
I used to be an Atheist. A few things happend, and I found myself more open to the Idea of God and religon. Maybe it’s due to me not having a spiritual side before.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Norco Bob Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Most experts all consider Maclin to be a player at 20 something on draft boards,..hopefully Al wont take him at 7 due to some supposed speed,…we have enough fast guys that arent very good already,…if its a wr take crabtree,…maclins a bum.
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Agreed….I don’t think Maclin is a bum….but it would be a sad mistake to pick Maclin with the #7 pick when there will be other players rated higher than him that would be more worthy of the pick.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Norco… right there with you. Taking Lombardi seriously when he talks about the Raiders is like taking Schlereth or Tom Jackson seriously when they talk about us.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
4:20
April 20th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Mike Lombardi was publicly humiliated by Al and his henchmen a couple years ago,…but it was justifiable as he was exposed as a media leak,…but for him to still play the scorned woman role, he really looks small,…when he talks about the Raiders you can see his eyes tear up a bit,…Im convinced he was born a woman.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Also,
I didn’t know you liked my Mock Drafts that much!
This one is for you: lol
With no trade:
1- OT A Smith/ DE Orakpo
2- DE M Johnson/ WR DHB
3- DT Alex Magee/ Dorell Scott
4- OLB Marcus Freeman/ J Williams/ Z Follett
7- SS Mike Mitchell
This is my best draft so far. IMO
April 20th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
You media conspiracy paranoids have to learn to take the good, and throw away the bad.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Holy smokes!
How many 4:20’s are there today?
April 20th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Good article by Pat Kirwin about the fundamentals of smokescreening before draft day..
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d80fe0897&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
April 20th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Im outta here,…we are on a manatee tour, will be back by draft day,..Tory Holt signed with Jags,..good,..I sure didnt want him stealing money in Oakland.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
SaintKaufman Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Holy smokes!
How many 4:20’s are there today?
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24
April 20th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
24am and 24pm.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
SaintKaufman,
No comments! =) I almost got in trouble last time that was a subject =)
April 20th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Norco Boob
Regarding your takes on Mike Lombardi. You’re a walking, talking, negative sterotype. Drunken, Dope Addled, Bigmouthed Raider Fan.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Another interesting thought on our #7 pick.
What does Al love more than speed?
Attention.
When Al goes through this list of names to decide who he is going to give $25M or so guaranteed, you better believe that Michael Oher and his New York Times Bestseller story, and “soon to be a major motion picture” media hype will be on Al’s radar.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Norco Bob ,
maclin a bum.your out your mind.the same guys and all 32 nfl teams thought desean jackson was just a return man slot wr too.i bet alot of teams want a do over now.and for the record maclin`s big play`s came on slants not bubble screens.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
LMN,
You will not get in trouble. This is Cali, Why do you think Jerry is alwaysl late with the news?!
I’m playing Jerry.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
What time is the first pick in the 2009 NFL draft?
April 20th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
DirtyRaccoon,
Happy 420 Bro. I’m 30 min late, but I was having my 4/20 4:20 session. lol
April 20th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Ok, I’m not one for mock drafts because there are too many variables. Here’s what I’d like to see, though…
1. Michael Crabtree, WR Texas Tech
2. Michael Johnson, DE Georgia Tech
3. Jasper Brinkley, LB South Carolina
4. Mike Mitchell, S Ohio
Draft starts at 4pm EST on Saturday, and 10am EST on Sunday.
April 20th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Right on, right on…
April 20th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Thanks Edward Teach.
Maybe it is the purple hayes, but I could not find it on the NFL site, or comcastt
April 20th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Raccoon… there are worse excuses
April 20th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Interesting take on Curry
The Chiefs have been penciled in on most mock drafts as a lock to take Curry off the board at No. 3, but we have to look at Curry for who he is. He’s not a pass rusher and most likely will play the Sam linebacker position in the NFL. The “Sam,” in any 4-3 defensive front, will spend most of his time playing over the tight end. What does that translate into? Not much, considering he will take on pulling guards and lead blockers from the fullback all day long in the running game and match up against a TE in man coverage.
The “Will,” or weakside linebacker in a 4-3 system, makes all the plays, while the “Sam,” or strongside backer, does the dirty work.
Can the Chiefs, or anyone in the top five, spend the type of money it’s going to take to sign Curry so he can cover tight ends? I don’t see it.
Unfortunately, this is an example of players who slide at the last moment, and Curry, from where I see it, could slide all the way out of the top 10.
April 20th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
True, it is more like the Makers Mark I had for lunch, and snacky time.
Or I am just not that smart. Yeah thats it I am not very smart. Oh well
RAIDER on bro.
April 20th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Sounds like a pretty good Monday, Raccoon. Hope your Tuesday is just as enjoyable.
April 20th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
ET…replace Craptree with Andre Smith or Oher and you laid out a nice lineup.
April 20th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
repost of mine…
The single biggest reason for six straight years of losing is the bad “O” line. Al Davis just does not get that the war is first won in the trenches. If Al Davis had it figured out he would have spent all his cash on premeir linemen instead of throwing his money away on the Walkers, Halls and Wilsons, add nauseem. I am still puzzled as to why the Raiders did not ask Harris to restructure his contract or take a simple pay cut and move him to RG. Like Gallery, he was not an effective tackle but he was a good run blocker and if sandwiched between two good pass blockers he should do as well as Gallery. Gallery is solid on the left side but Carisle gets pushed around when the defense guesses that the play is going to his side.
The Raiders not only need to upgrage both tackles, but the RG position and center.. I have said it many times before that the ZBS is no panacea for talent. Center is a position where a very strong, quick and agile lineman is needed. Satele is quick but not strong and agile and will be a just another weak point along the “O” line. The “D” line is in the same shape, built with castoffs instead of young stud linemen from the draft.
If the Raider “O” line which was responsible (Sims and Treau) for the last Superbowl loss was rebuilt properly the Raiders would have had a very fine QB in Walter. But the bad “O” line ruined his chances just like New England’s bad “O” line ruined JIm Plunkett when he was first drafted into the NFL.
The “O” line sets the tone for the game, if the “O” linemen are dominant, they will sustain a running game against the tougher run defenses. This takes the pressure off the QB and allows him to develope properly which improves his accuracy and pocket awareness in the passing game. A sustainable run game allows the passing game to flourish and creates a balanced offense which keeps the opponents defense guessing and on the field. This indirectly elevates the play of the team’s own defense as it is not as tired and able to finsh the 4th quarter with a bang. Something the Raiders have rarely done in the last six years.
The only way the Raiders ever get back to the playoffs is the same way they did it in their glory days to draft a dominant “O” line first instead of the bandaid approach they continue to take with all the FA rejects from other teams. If they do not start this year with drafting better tackles and a center, the 2009 season for the Raiders will make it seven straight losing seasons and the reason I stopped buying season tickets with 2009. Al Davis just does not get it
April 20th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Mad dog.. i know.. its the oline that has given up 160 yards a game on the ground..
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April 20th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
RoadDog… I would be happy with Andre Smith or Crabtree with our first pick; whichever the staff think is the most glaring need out of the two is OK by me. Oher I’m not so sure about because he seems to play with a real narrow base. I’m not an expert, not even close, but when I see that I see potential balance issues.
The guy I really liked coming out of college a couple of years ago was Jammal Brown from Oklahoma. Plays balanced and solid, and uses his hands well. A Pro Bowler until a pretty bad knee injury set him back. I don’t see Oher with that type of balance and solidity, but as I said I’m not an expert.
April 20th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
the Oline has been upgraded.. Mario Henderson pitched a shut out the last 3 games.. he is better then Kwame.. Satelle is better then Grove and a better fit for the ZBS.. and Kalif Barnes is a huge upgrade over Cornell Green.. id say the Oline has been addressed in a huge way.. ill never understand the thought process that we still need to draft an LT. there is no such thing as a dominate lineman coming out of the draft.. they have potential.. they LEARN to be dominate.. and quite frankly.. we suck at drafting LTs.. we drafted 3 and all became guards.. nah.. im all set with Henderson as the LT.. no sacks.. no penalties last 3 games.. really dont know how to explain it any better then that.. 26 points against NE.. 27 against texans and 31 against the Bucs.. seems to me. the offense played pretty damn well. the defense however averaged 159.7 yards a game on the ground.. thats PATHETIC
April 20th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
i say the raiders are going maclin than mack.that`s the plan the last 3 picks will be defense.dhb might have a faster 40 (4.3 to 4.46)but i don`t think he play as fast as maclin.maclin has another gear.
April 20th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
just a thought.. why would the Raiders draft a Center when they gave up picks to get one already?
April 20th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Tomycar… that’s why I don’t have one in my post; I think we’ve upgraded sufficiently this offseason. Pears started for the Broncos, both a LT and at RT and should provide good depth at both positions. If anything happens to Mario we slide Barnes to LT and Pears takes over at RT. Carlisle gets a bad rap for some reason, but Cable mentioned his coming back as a real nice thing for the line. I also think Satele will be good in the ZBS; he was all-rookie team his first year, and it seems Miami got rid of him mainly because he didn’t fit their scheme (Grove is going to make them wish they kept him, though). If anything we might need a little more depth at guard, but in my opinion that’s it.
That said, if the staff feels like Andre Smith or Oher is a bigger add than Crabtree, well, they know more than I do.
April 20th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
i think mike lombardi is a little bitter that the raiders fired him
April 20th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Edward
i agree with that.. but my main possition has been we need to do something about the run.. the offense seems to be improving fine.. started slow but really came on in December.. the run d however is a complete and utter joke.. i really dont see how adding a reciever or olineman is going to help stop the most glaring weakness we still have.. run d.. or lack there of..
April 20th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Tomycar… many schools of thought on that one; I subscribe to the theory that if our offense produces more first downs and touchdowns, and can hold onto the ball a little longer it takes a lot of pressure off the defense. I don’t think a three-man rotation at DT helped at all last year, in fact I think it was a big mistake. There are others that feel that addressing the DT position through the draft is the way to go. I don’t agree, but if you feel that way it doesn’t make you a bad person. Live and let live.
I think Brinkley would help us up the middle, and Mitchell seems to be very solid in run support. Is that enough? Hell, I don’t know. If I did I’d be in NY on Saturday, and getting paid for it.
April 20th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Edward… i just read your comment about Raiders getting away with the horse collar if they put on a Pats Jersey LOL.. too funny man…
April 20th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
i was having a discussion with a good buddy of mine today and he brought up a very good point.. the entire time we have stunk against the run.. Rob Ryan has been our DC.. he made a great point.. my prob is.. i dont see a 3rd or 4th round DT pick as coming in and contributing right away.. i believe that since run is our biggest need at this point.. we need to draft a guy with the potentional to come in and start right away.. whether thats a LB DE or DT ( prefered DT ) im good with that… if Aaron Curry was to miraculously fall to us at 7.. gotta grab him…
April 20th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Tomycar… If it was a #37 Patriots jersey the guy could do whatever he wanted to.
Maybe Marshall should try it in preseason, just to check it out. Can’t be any weirder than anything Rob Ryan came up with…
April 20th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
yea i was watching a Raiders game and ( cantremember the player) horsecollared a Donkie but the runner broke away.. the refs threw a flag for the horsecollar.. but 2 weeks earlier.. a Pats player did the same thing.. the refs picked up the flag and said it wasnt a horse collar because the runner broke free.. LOL.. isnt that some crap?
April 20th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
As a Raider fan, I hope both of you guys are right and the recent additions realize their potential in the ZBS that they did not realize with their former teams. Face it, if they were that good they would not be in Oakland. Whats more, I do not trust Cable’s tenant for thinking the ZBS can make a better lineman out of a player, remember “Turnstile” Harris. You either got it or you don’t. Most of or all of the recent “O” line additions are either rejects and or bring baggage.
The fact is the Raiders need several positions up graded with the “D” line right behind the “O” line but it only makes since that the “O” line go first since this is the year that a lot of folks are saying will make or break JR. Get the premium competition that comes from the higher pickes in the draft and the Raiders are that much closer to a run game that will produce against the better defenses in the NFL not just the AFC West. Oh yeah, we will just have to diagree about Henderson. He is not that good, OTs that can start and excel in their first year are the calibre linemen that I want for the Raiders; guys like Clady in Denver and O’Neil in San Diego.
April 20th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Reality sucks sometimes. Maybe if people like Madden keep saying that the league is better off when the Raiders are good we’ll start getting the benefit of the doubt once in awhile, too. Or we could just cheat like we did in the old days.
Gotta get some sleep. Nice talking to you.
April 20th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
well like you said agree to disagree.. if he wasnt that good as you put it.. he wouldnt have shut out 3 of the top DEs in the NFL.. no sacks.. no penalties.. and looked pretty damn solid.. he was a 3rd round pick so he isnt getting much respect.. but he did a fantastic job in his last 3 starts.. lets see him continue to grow and get better…
April 20th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Night Edward.. thanks for the chat.. im off too gonna finish watching this movie..
peace all
April 20th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
It won’t be long before the buttholeprick
logs on and tells us how smart he is 
April 20th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Bear with me guys, please…but, as usual, I am just trying to learn more (and know what the hell you guys are talking about. Lol!) What do the terms Sam, Mike, and Will mean? I am assuming in has something to do with how the players line up? Can someone please explain it to me. Teach? Anyone? Thanks in advance!!
Oh and I have to laugh at the few posters who don’t like Andre Smith because he has man boobs. Lol. I don’t care if the guy has a vagina…I’d take him in a NY minute!
April 20th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Go back and look at the games, Henderson did play better than Harris but the offense went right, away from Henderson’s side and the offensive scheming in general did not depend on Henderson. Satele is not an upgrade over Grove. I watched Grove get planted many times by the DTs and the Raider vibe is that he is not a good fit for the ZBS. Bill Parcells sent Satele packing for the same reason, he gets planted by the bigger DTs. So now the ZBS will magically will make Satele a better pass blocker like it did for Harris.
April 20th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
sam= strongside linebacker
mike= middle linebacker
will=weakside linebacker
in the 4-3 defense
April 20th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Hello dear friends,…I hope sometime this week we hear we dumped that worthless number 7 draft pick for anquan Boldin,…anyway, saw a cool manatee today.
April 20th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
I like that burger king commercial where that king dude is rappin about square butts and theres a cameo by sir mixalot,..also I like that midget cowboys commercial from jack in the box….yes, Iv been smoming pot all day.
April 20th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
smoking…sorry for the typo,..actually not sorry….good reefer out here.
April 20th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
I dont know what you guys are doin but Im listening to some Gladys Knight music,…best singer ever,…I hope her and the Pips tour again someday.
April 20th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Norco,
That’s why I haven’t posted as much today, I can’t find the letters. They all look alike. lol
April 20th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Im hip,..smoked too much today,..got mesmerized by the manatee tour, then we put on some great Gladys Knight music,…reefer,…some rum,…nice.
April 20th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Norco,
A little Beathoven. The 6th Symphony.
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Some nice reefer.
=
A Great night.
April 20th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Or Moon Light Sonata.
April 20th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
I was watching that movie called leather- heads. I liked it.
That and we are Marshall are my favorite football related movies.
April 20th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
I can’t believe some mocks have us taking Heyward-bey at seven. That’s just dumb.
April 20th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Lynn, you’re not the only one…What a bunch of morons
April 20th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
I think the best value in this draft is in the lower half of the first round, too many good players to be had for a fraction of the price .
April 20th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
This is my best draft by far.
O Mock Draft 17.0:
1- OT Monroe/ A Smith
2- DE M Johnson/ WR DHB
3- DT Alex Magee/ Dorell Scott
4- OLB J Williams/ Z Follett
7- SS Mike Mitchell
April 20th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
We should try to move up from the 7th to make sure we get M Mitchell. There is a lit of buzz around that kid now. Ran a 4.3 at his pro day. He is 6′0 220, and is a hard hitter.
April 20th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
At the 7th, I like:
J Smith
Monroe
Curry
Orakpo
A Smith
Raji
Crab
In that order.
April 20th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Correction:
J Smith
Monroe
Curry
A Smith
Crab
Orakpo
Raji
April 20th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Raider O…here’s what I found on Mitchell….I dont care where Al draft him. Just get him…We need this kid…
By Da Bears on April 16, 2009 12:00 PM
Mike Mitchell has a very good work effort and a extremely vocus team player. Leads by example and ask only for eveyone to be dedicate for the good of the team. One whose believes in team and winning though out working your opponent. Excellent skills and one hard hitter. As a former Bobcat team mate I can say without doubt, no one will out work him. Best of success Mike, always continue to work extremely hard.He is a football player destined to be great.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Big C’s scouting report
Mitchell is extremely physical and packs a wallop when delivering the blow. He’s a sure-tackler, wraps up well, outstanding playing inside the box, can play deep middle or in zone coverage. He is fluid in his back pedal, smooth in transition and shows good overall technique.
Mitchell has very good ball skills and speed to play anywhere in the secondary. He has the ability to cover slot receivers and tight ends displaying exceptional cover skills. He’s an opportunistic defender leading the team with three interceptions in addition to five pass breakups and two forced fumbles last season. He was also an impact player on special teams.
Mitchell is an explosive player with a linebacker’s mentality, good study habits, highly intelligent and vocal leader.
According Bobcat defensive coordinator/safeties Coach Jimmy Burrow, Mitchell improved in all areas of his weaknesses throughout his four year career at Ohio. The coach describes Mitchell as being in the same mode of longtime NFL safety John Lynch with his playing style.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Mad Road Dog:
Your “re-post” (number 45) is right on point and I’m sure there are many of us who totally agree with you. The SAD
part about your opinion is that nothing will change while Al Davis is running the show. The reality of the situation is that you just have to live with these flaws in Davis. Keep loving the Raiders and quit trying to understand Al.
I just try and make the best of what happens and I’ve tried to stop figuring him and his mad ways out. We’ll be chating it up on Sunday, after the first two picks and Sunday evening after picks 3 and 4. Oh, well, another day of drama in Raidersville.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
O, I’m startin to feel that draft. I’d love to get the LB from Eastern (?) Illinois in the 4th, but I too don’t think Mitchell has any chance at being there in the 7th. Like everyone else, I can only speculate on where he will be picked but I say we better grab the dude!
April 20th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
Alisgod, I just saw your posts. Dude, how does this guy not get to the combine? I’m at a loss.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
Crap, PFT posted a mock w/ DHB going to…you guessed it. Apparently they have an insider w/ scouting sources who built this mock. Al has forgotten more about football than I’ll ever know but I gotta think he’d be out of his mind to make that pick.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Nader, what’s worst is the top 5 rated safeties are so weak compared to him. Louis Delma hangs on for dear life when he tackles. You look at the tapes of the top 5 and you wonder why they dont bother talking about this guy. He lit up Ohio State. That’s good enough competition for me!
April 20th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Look how people just explode when they run into Mitchell. They literally bounces off the turf. Man among boys out there. Please dear Al get him in the 2nd round.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
Yeah, those are the hits that get you freakin pumped. C’mon Al, we need another Tatum! Man, I will be running through walls if we draft this kid.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:02 am
gotta get to sleep. hoping for a NASTY draft…
April 21st, 2009 at 1:27 am
im going to order a pizza for the draft
April 21st, 2009 at 1:27 am
“after 5 month, the Japanese vessel, Stolt Strenght was released by its pirate captives”
“Overall, that leaves 18 ships and 300 hostages still in the control of pirates”
and USA just heard of the problem, because of the Alabama, makes one think…
April 21st, 2009 at 2:11 am
Blackdeath…I want to thank you for taking the time to enlighten me. Learn something everyday here. That’s why I love to come and read what you guys say. I, too, am sold on Mitchell. The guy always is where the ball winds up being or is at that spot shortly thereafter and the blocks he puts on those poor bastards are unreal! I really hope we go for him.
April 21st, 2009 at 2:40 am
Don’t know if this has been posted already, but I found this on Mitchell:
RAIDERS
Oakland sees impact in safety from Ohio U.
David White, Chronicle Staff Writer
Monday, April 20, 2009
(04-19) 20:40 PDT — Ohio University safety Mike Mitchell could not believe his eyes, and he most certainly could not believe his ears.
There stood Hall of Fame cornerback Willie Brown, telling Mitchell what an instant difference he’d make in the Raiders’ secondary during last week’s predraft visit. Making matters all the more overwhelming, Raiders secondary coach Lionel Washington – a former NFL player himself – was reading from the exact same script.
“It was absolutely amazing,” Mitchell said in a phone interview. “To have those guys actually speaking to me … it was almost unreal hearing that from a Hall of Famer.”
The message was simple: The Raiders need able bodies at the safety position, and they need them now. That’s why Mitchell was brought to Alameda – along with Wake Forest safety Chip Vaughn – last week for a round of tire kicking.
As it stands, the Raiders have three safeties on the roster: Tyvon Branch, who spent most his rookie season on injured reserve; Michael Huff, a first-round pick in 2006 now on the bench; and Hiram Eugene, an undrafted free agent with one year of starting experience.
There used to be more. Rashad Baker led team safeties with three interceptions last year but left for the Eagles. Gibril Wilson was second with two interceptions but was released in January.
To think, Raiders safeties combined for three interceptions in 2006-07. The remaining trio combines for two career picks. So yeah, this has been an ongoing problem ever since new Hall of Famer Rod Woodson retired in 2004.
“Well, it’s a concern,” Raiders coach Tom Cable said of the lack of depth. “Maybe that’s one of those priorities.”
Brown and Washington said as much to Mitchell, a late-round candidate who wasn’t invited to the NFL combine but wowed scouts with a 4.43 in the 40-yard dash.
He played free and strong safety at Ohio. His ability to hit hard against the run and defend cover well in the pass game makes him a player of interest to a team that could use more of both.
“They want a couple of guys to come in and make an immediate impact,” Mitchell said. “They want me to be the guy I was in college and be an impact. It was so cool to hear that word. A lot of teams draft you for depth or special teams. If it all works out, they want to draft me so I can make an impact that first year.
“There’s nothing more I want to do.”
BRIEFLY: The Raiders have drafted a safety in eight of the past nine years. Huff and Branch are the only ones still here. … The Raiders brought in another combine snub last week in Texas Christian center Blake Schlueter, another late-round candidate.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:34 am
Meet Mike Mitchell
His name is Michael Mitchell, but he answers to Mike. He’s listed as a strong safety, but he prefers just safety because he can play both strong and free.
Who knows? The potential sleeper pick from Ohio University just might be a late-round answer to a Raiders secondary in search of a big-time safety ever since Rod Woodson left. With just three safeties on the roster, there’s no question the Raiders want to add competition and talent to the system.
Mitchell took time out to chat shortly after visiting the Raiders (along with TCU center Blake Schlueter and South Carolina tight end Jared Cook) Friday.
Q: How was the visit?
A: “It went amazing, absolutely amazing. Everything I thought it would be. This team has the most history of any franchise in football. To see all the pictures of all those great players up on the wall, to have (secondary coaches) Lionel Washington and Willie Brown actually speaking to me, it was so humbling. It’s definitely an organization I want to be a part of.
Q: You’re listed as a strong safety but I hear you played free safety last season. Which is it?
A: “I can do both things. I can do both very well. At strong safety, I can be a very imposing force against the run and in the pass game. At free, I can be a guy who covers well and gets interceptions. I have a lot of God-given gifts than can really help, especially an organization that needs a safety.”
Q: This is your eighth official visit of the month, including a trip to Cleveland. Can next Saturday get here fast enough?
A: “I’m extremely exhausted. I’ve spent more time in airports and airplanes than I have in my own house the past 3 1/2 weeks. I’m looking forward to bring in my home (Friday night) in my own home, my own sheets and wake up to the sounds of my own house. Can’t wait for my mom to come into my room at 8 a.m. singing that Mickey Mouse song like she’s been doing as long as I can remember. She drives me crazy with that song but breakfast is usually right after that so I can’t complain.”
** Mitchell was not invited to the NFL combine, but the 6-0, 221-pounder got attention by running a 4.32-second 40 at his pro day workout with 21 bench reps and a 37 1/2 broad jump.
Judge for yourself by clicking here for a youtube highlight reel. For more about where he could fit it on the Raiders, check Monday’s Chronicle (newspaper version and/or sfgate.com)
Posted By: David White (Email) | April 18 2009 at 06:49 AM
April 21st, 2009 at 5:17 am
Damn where is everybody?
April 21st, 2009 at 5:23 am
LMN… if YOU were truly thinking you would no doubt come to the conclusion that the US knew about the problem with the pirates before the Alabama incident, just like everyone else in the world.
The trouble with soem people seems to be that the US is damned if they do, and damned if they don’t. We came on the scene because American citizens were involved, not because we didn’t know the problem existed until then. If we got involved before that no doubt some moron would criticize us for sticking our noses in where they don’t belong.
Sometimes, dude, it would be better if you could just STFU.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:39 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Am Crew…NMF, LMN, Dirt Lot, 4eva, Rockstar, Ed…
What’s up guys?
No one’s got the coffee, yet? Well…get coffee on me…and whoever wants the waitress…
April 21st, 2009 at 5:44 am
If Mitchell is there in the later rounds…grab him. He could be what we all thought Huff would be. Just hope he doesn’t turn out like Huff and become a disappointment. Then again, I give Huff one more year…
April 21st, 2009 at 5:45 am
Good morning, Hwnrdr… Just sitting here wishing it was Saturday. Can’t wait for the draft!
April 21st, 2009 at 5:47 am
I hear you on that one. All this waiting, speculating…Saturday couldn’t come sooner!
April 21st, 2009 at 5:58 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,HWNDR,EDWARD TEACH,EVERYONE,WILL BE INTERESTING TO READ THE ARGUING NEXT WEEK. SOME WILL BE THRILLED ,SOME WILL BE DISAPPOINTED IN THE RAIDER’S DRAFT, THAT IS WHAT MAKE,S IT FUN 4 ME THOUGH,READING THE DIFFERENT OPINION’S FROM EVERYONE.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:07 am
Good Morning Dirt Lot,
I bet that there will be many disappointed fans on here because someone that they believed should have been picked was passed. All the Al bashers will be here…that’s almost a guarantee!!!
April 21st, 2009 at 6:22 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!
(the only real football nation)
“With the 1st pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select Michael Crabtree…….”
April 21st, 2009 at 6:25 am
Music to my ears, exla. Let’s hope you’re right.
Listen. Here comes the “we don’t need a WR, we need to fix the D-line” crowd.
I can hear ‘em, I just can’t see ‘em yet…
April 21st, 2009 at 6:26 am
Oh, sorry. Good morning, Dirt Lot. My bad; didn’t see your post until now.
Hope things are well with you!
April 21st, 2009 at 6:31 am
Good Morning Hwnrdr, Dirt Lot, ed teach, NMF …
April 21st, 2009 at 6:32 am
“With the 1st pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select Michael Crabtree…….”
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morning exla. that would be awesome. the crowd goes WILD!
April 21st, 2009 at 6:33 am
Good Morning Rockstar!
With draft day coming up shortly…if Curry is there at #7, despite our needs…do we grab him? I just read on profootballtalk.com that the Rams are seriously considering him at #2.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:36 am
ALL GOOD HERE EDWARD TEACH,WILL SA AGAIN,A TRUE #1 / HOME-RUN HITTING WIDE-OUT WILL OPEN UP THE OFFENSE IN A LOT OF WAY’S. WITH THE OFFENSE ABLE TO SUSTAIN DRIVES,DOES THAT NOT HELP THE DEFENSE BY KEEPING THEM OFF THE FIELD ? AGREE O-LINEMAN THAY HAVE SIGNED NEED TO SHOW UP AND PLAY..
April 21st, 2009 at 6:38 am
Porko Blob thinks Maclin is a bum and it appears Dakota feels the same way …
Jeremy Maclin is going to be a stud WR in this league. Granted, he’d be a reach at #7 he is light years better than any WR in this draft who isn’t named Michael Crabtree.
the same guys who don’t want Maclin/Crabtree are calling for DHB, Barden, Robiskie, Britt or Nicks instead. come on guys – get a clue!
April 21st, 2009 at 6:41 am
I remember getting dissed with my draft call last year:
“With the 4th pick in the 2008 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raider’s select Darren McFadden, RB, Univ of Arkansas.”
And the posters that wanted defense went off. LOL
April 21st, 2009 at 6:43 am
# edward teach Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 6:25 am
Music to my ears, exla. Let’s hope you’re right.
Listen. Here comes the “we don’t need a WR, we need to fix the D-line” crowd.
I can hear ‘em, I just can’t see ‘em yet…
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The wr core was bad last year but you think the d-line is great or is not being able to stop the run not as important as throwing the ball.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:43 am
Classic line Edward Teach: “I can hear ‘em, I just can’t see ‘em yet…” LMFAO
April 21st, 2009 at 6:44 am
And here they come!
April 21st, 2009 at 6:46 am
If Crabtree is off the board, and only if Crabtree is off the board, will I accept Maclin. That’s if Al is going WR. But, a hr hitter will be of great need to open up this offense. What, we were last in passing last year? That has got to change as we all know Al was hating it last year.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:47 am
If the pick isn’t WR, it has to be O-Line imo …
If you pass on a #1 WR then we’re going to need receptions from other sources outside of the questionable/unremarkable WR corps. I’m not convinced that we have a solid o-line by bringing in cheap vets that nobody else wanted. Last time I checked Barnes, Johnson, Pears & Satele aren’t pro bowlers … there’s no guarantee we’ll get better production from them than guys like Harris, Green, McQuistan and Grove!
We need a solid tackle so that Miller, McFadden, Bush, etc. can catch passes instead of staying back to block
our passing game was terrible last year and 1 or 2 new players on the d-line isn’t going to transform this unit into the 2000 Ravens – who won games in spite of their inept offense
Davis/Cable want to score points. offense in Round 1
J. Smith, E. Monroe, A. Smith, Crabtree, Maclin, Oher, Mack, DHB
that’s our draft board. guaranteed
April 21st, 2009 at 6:49 am
NMF, I can see both points. Yes, we do need to stop the run, but having an offense that can sustain drives and score more than 3 points a shot will help out also. That would be great if we fulfill both needs on O and D. We’ll see…I guess the question to ask is what is more important and that wil have to be answered by Al and Cable.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:49 am
Part of the reason we were last in passing is that for most of the season, we were forced to play a back who is/was unable to catch passes out of the backfield. Isn’t that right NoMoreFargus?
April 21st, 2009 at 6:57 am
you think the d-line is great or is not being able to stop the run not as important as throwing the ball.
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tough question NMF. It takes 11 guys to stop the run. not just two DT’s. It’s highly probable we could draft BJ Raji and still finish 31st vs the run. This is assuming that you (like S&B) don’t feel coaching or scheme make a difference. If you’re in the boat thinking A. Al Davis coaches the defense or B. John Marshall = Rob Ryan then yes you want better players along the defensive front seven. why wouldn’t you?
I think Marsh and co. will bring good teaching and better schemes to the defense than Rob Ryan for several reasons
1. He has experience in the 4-3 defense
2. He has experience as a DC
3. took his team to the Super Bowl in 2005
4. has assistants he’s familar with (brought along his D-Line coach and LB coach from Seattle)
Ryan had none of these things when we hired him and all 5 years with him as DC we saw a terrible run defense and players out of position. not to mention lack of blitzes and prevent defense in the 4th quarter
Should we scrap the entire roster of defensive players before we give them a chance under a capable Def. Coordinator?
April 21st, 2009 at 7:06 am
Great point RaiderRockstar.
We forget how awful Rob Ryan was.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:06 am
Agreed RR it has been everyone’s fault from linebackers to the safeties but we gotta stop teams from running it down are throats and If i look at wr core chaz,jlh,shields? all young and with lots of potential and you look at the DL and other than Scott well who gets any one excited about a their future .
April 21st, 2009 at 7:07 am
Should we scrap the entire roster of defensive players before we give them a chance under a capable Def. Coordinator?
No.
But, lets add a funny twist to that…
Will Rob be good I Cleveland now that he has DC experience? Funny to see what the Dawg Pound has in store for him if he fails…
April 21st, 2009 at 7:15 am
If i look at wr core chaz,jlh,shields? all young and with lots of potential and you look at the DL and other than Scott well who gets any one excited about a their future
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NMF: great point. the key word is “potential”. Can you pass up on a talent like Crabtree because of the potential we have on the roster? we drafted McFadden last year, despite the potential of Fargas (fresh off a 1000 yard season) and Mike Bush. We need playmakers. Fargas was not one. Bush was unknown & unproven (like Shields). What teams did Higgins & Schilens do well against? the ones that didn’t make the playoffs. Same can be said for Russell. If we want to compete in this conference or even this division we’re going to need a WR corps. As of today we don’t have one. Is there potential for one? yes. Is there a good chance this WR corps could also be one flaming pile of camel dung? yes
Russell is the face of the franchise and he needs a strong supporting cast.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:17 am
What if the d is just as bad under marshall and ryan flourishes for browns the way last few years have been I worry about every move blowing up in our faces (gruden,moss,hall,kiffin,shell,callahan,norvel,k.harris,
l.jordan,d.rhodes,schwigert) just feel like every move in recent years hasn’t worked so it hard at times to be optimistic.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:18 am
hwnrdr: Rob Ryan has a better chance to succeed in Cleveland than he ever did in Oakland.
1. he has experience as a DC
2. he has experience in the 3-4 defense
3. he’ll be coaching under a defensive minded HC
things he didn’t have in Oakland … I wouldn’t put it past him to put players in the wrong position there though. As a matter of fact they brought in BJ Raji to try him as a DE in their 3-4 defense. no joke!
April 21st, 2009 at 7:24 am
NMF post #127
can’t blame you for not being optimistic. past 6 seasons have been terrible to say the least. All you can do is move forward and hope for the best
I wouldn’t worry about losing Rob Ryan though. That 5 year experiment is done. It failed. That doesn’t mean he’ll be a flop in Brownie land, that just means he wasn’t the right fit here.
The longer he would have stayed here the longer we would have had a terrible run defense, no matter what players we lined up in our defensive front seven …
April 21st, 2009 at 7:24 am
Yeah, I forgot about the 3-4 that he was trying to implement here. Well, that thing about playing players out of position…too funny. Will Mangini let him do that there?
April 21st, 2009 at 7:25 am
IMO i think we need to get a bad arse MLB like Rey M…i understand that is high for a guy like him but… he is a nasty hitting man, he also goes for the KO hit and doesnt rap all the time ,gets out of position sometimes to give a big hit.. but to can teach this things, stay in lanes ,better in coverage,shoot i saw warren covering a TE in the tampa game…wtf RR..but you cant teach nasty and IMO that what Rey is, and personal i dont waht to have to play him in sd for 10 years..we need to bing the nasty back to the RAIDERS
April 21st, 2009 at 7:25 am
I truly don’t care who we take as long as they produce as a Raider but man do we need a great draft.
GO RAIDERS!!!!
April 21st, 2009 at 7:30 am
Well Nation….
Gots ta go…Here’s hoping for a great day to all and 4 days and counting…
Go Raiders!!!
April 21st, 2009 at 7:33 am
we need to bing the nasty back to the RAIDERS
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r8rpaver: I agree. Brown, Morrison & Howard are all smallish LB’s. We need a big nasty freak to come in and trash RB’s in the backfield. lay out TE’s and WR’s that try to come across the middle
I like Rey from USC, but I think Davis likes Kirk at MLB and I don’t think we’ll take a LB in Round 1 unless Aaron Curry somehow drops to #7
April 21st, 2009 at 7:33 am
and afer saying all of that last post…we have gone to far in building an off to stop now .. Russel need a go to wr that we can trust to go get the ball no matter what,and a shut down LT that he can trust.. IMO we have invested to much in the OFF to not finish it in this years draft, let Marshall have a year and draft all Deff in high rounds next year
April 21st, 2009 at 7:40 am
a nasty MLB will make most rb think twice about taking them head on all game… just that small thought will help our run D at the end.. plus they wont have the legs left and a very sore body after 3 qrts
April 21st, 2009 at 7:44 am
Word.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:45 am
Crabtree will be a star,..maclin a nobody.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:53 am
IMO robiskie is the most ready for the nfl with all his fathers coaching
April 21st, 2009 at 8:05 am
r8rpaver: Robiskie should have came out last year when he had 11 TD catches and 935 yards
outside of the Minnesota game he had a terrible senior season …
Maclin is BY FAR a better candidate for a #1 WR
April 21st, 2009 at 8:06 am
Morning Nation,
Man My pass word sucks jerry WTF???? and the sight been refreshing kinda slow prob my mac guess!!!
GO NASTY!!!
April 21st, 2009 at 8:10 am
Hakeem Nicks is impressive
Kenny Britt even more so
Ramses Barden could eventually become something special in 2 or 3 years …
Crabtree & Maclin are the best WR’s in this draft class
April 21st, 2009 at 8:10 am
Hay OAK : where is says logged on as by leave a reply click on your name …it will take you to your profile down at the bottom you can change your password
April 21st, 2009 at 8:15 am
Thanks R8,
Whats good…….NATION????
Crabbs. A smith, Raji Rey Maybe even curry ….at lest who ever we get it will be a need this draft is more important in the 2-5 rounds then anything we need a few more picks…..not for huff tho….I say maybe next years 3 and roster trim…..for a 2or 3rd this year we need 6-7 good players to help us out not one superstar one 4th round qb and the fastest guy in the draft!!!!
April 21st, 2009 at 8:25 am
with 5 draft picks we should get the best available OT or WR in Round 1.
J. Smith, E. Monroe, A. Smith, Crabtree, Maclin, Oher, Mack, DHB (in that order)
Followed by the best available DE, DT, OLB and SS (any order)
that would be a great draft imo. addressing every need
April 21st, 2009 at 8:32 am
I have a strong feeling that the Raiders will make some moves for additional draft picks, if a player they want falls a bit. There is no need to trade away resources now, but much like with the Fabian trade last year, if somebody they really want is available much later than they anticipated, I think they deal Walter, Huff, future picks, and maybe Burgess.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:34 am
Double R,
Nicw thats a perfect order in a perfect world!!! I think oher is a shade above maclin only because I think we cou;ld get a project starter in the later rounds….
April 21st, 2009 at 8:36 am
if somebody they really want is available much later than they anticipated, I think they deal Walter, Huff, future picks, and maybe Burgess.
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I agree. However, it would be AWFUL to trade Huff or Burgess for less than a 3rd rounder. Walter may have a little trade value since this is a weak QB draft class. Might garner a 6th or 7th round pick …
April 21st, 2009 at 8:39 am
BART Bridge Blues Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 8:32 am
I think they deal Walter, Huff, future picks, and maybe Burgess.
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Man I think Huff will excell if Marsh splits the feild gives him half and says dominate your space.. this guy shuts down the best tightends we face (most the time) I think he was (Robbed) as Im hopipng was the case with the majority of our D last few years……
April 21st, 2009 at 8:41 am
NO less then early 3rd fo burgess he is in a contract year and will dominate!!! and we are sooo thin at saftey…remember huffster helped shut down that well oiled SC machine……….he can flat out fly and oph yeah he hits when he wants
April 21st, 2009 at 8:42 am
I’d have to say if Crabs is there we have to take him with the 7, I could see them trying to get some more later round picks but if at all possible we need a big mean MLB to help stop the run and a LT to protect JRuss. I’m all for getting rid of some fools like Walters, Huff, Fargas but we need to keep Burgess he’ll be a stud this year. The suspense is killing me…
April 21st, 2009 at 8:44 am
I think they will definitely try and get some more pics after the first round, I just don’t see them doing it in the first unless no one is left.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:46 am
yeah, I personally like the idea of keeping Huff as the 3rd safety for “wolverine” packages, and as a 3rd down SS to cover TE’s. But it’s not up to me; as trade bait goes, if Marshall doesn’t like what he has seen on film from Huff, then we might as well get something for him. I think it is much more likely that we trade Walter, to get back one of those 5th or 6th rounders that we lost. Or if Al is able to secure one of the elite pass-rushers in the draft, he may be bold enough to trade Burgess for a 3rd rounder.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:47 am
i disagree with drafting a wr with #7. yes, it is a need, we think. we really dont know what higgins, shields, and shillenz can do over the course of a full year. esp with some experience under there belt now. what we do know is that we have been the worst defense against the run for 6 yrs now. we have had no pass rush for 6 yrs now. no opposing qb is afraid of our defense. for that reason we must draft a quality 1st round defensive player. i know there will be some good def players in later rounds but prob not as good as the likes of curry, raji, orakpo. look at the last 5 yrs of wr class to be drafted. the wr’s that made it to top of nfl class were mostly drafted in later rounds. we can still get a quality wr in round 2. someone like britt, or robiski, or even bay (dropping). of course i would love to trade down to acquire more picks in either the 2nd or 3rd rounds. if we could get into middle of 1st round this is what i say we do:
1st – ayers
2nd – wr (britt, robiski)
3rd – chung (very good safety against RUN)
April 21st, 2009 at 8:49 am
Can anyone think of a younger Offense then the Raiders if we were to take “the Crab”? JRuss, DMAC, Bush, JLH, “Chazmanian devil”, Miller, “the Shield”. Throw Oneal in the mix and this is a young motley crew.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:01 am
I just want to WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is that to much to ask lol
April 21st, 2009 at 9:01 am
i disagree with drafting a wr with #7. yes, it is a need, we think. we really dont know what higgins, shields, and shillenz can do over the course of a full year. esp with some experience under there belt now.
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NJ: Higgins, Schilens & Shields are about as valuable to the WR corps as Scott, Gunheim & Richardson are to the D-Line at DE …
and Burgess is oft injured, yet still somehow more reliable than Walker.
If we draft a DE at #7 overall it’ll be Orakpo, who according to some is a hybrid DE/OLB pass rusher
April 21st, 2009 at 9:03 am
we need someone to bust effing heads
April 21st, 2009 at 9:05 am
Ok, now Casserly is saying he’s hearing that Curry may be the guy at #1 for Detroit, and they will play him at MLB.
If Curry goes #1 as a MLB, there is NO WAY you can tell me that 7 is too high for Maulauga.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:05 am
Crabtree I (still) believe will land in Oakland if he isn’t picked in the top-six.
MICHAEL CRABTREE, WR, Texas Tech
Scouting report: At 6-1 and 215 pounds, he’s the prototypical big-body receiver who may not be the fastest out there, but no one has ever scored as many touchdowns as he has the past two seasons (NCAA-record 41). Incredible balance and awareness on the sidelines, excellent hands and ability to go high for the catch. Hands down, the most dynamic wide receiver and player in the draft.
Pros: The Raiders need a touchdown-maker, plain and simple. His 41 TD catches since 2007 are four more than the Raiders have had since 2006. The roster has enough second-and third-option WRs. Crabtree has the potential to be that lead, big-body, Larry Fitzgerald-type receiver they have lacked since the days before Randy Moss quit on them. Consider him the missing ingredient to a JaMarcus Russell-run offense that already has dynamic weapons at tight end (Zach Miller) and running back (Darren McFadden).
Cons: Crabtree is coming off foot surgery after playing all season with a stress fracture, not that it slowed him much. He was unable to record a 40 time, and would not have broken 4.5 if given the chance. Raiders owner Al Davis prefers speed at receiver so that hurts his case. Downfield blocking needs improving, especially if playing in the Raiders’ run-minded offense.
Draft impact: With young receivers Chaz Schilens and Johnnie Lee Higgins on hand, and Javon Walker back for a do-over, the Raiders would not need to draft another receiver beyond Crabtree. They could then draft two ZBS-oriented offensive linemen and trust Cable can develop one into a solid tackle (in case Khalif Barnes only lasts a year) and another into a long-term guard (for when Cooper Carlisle is done.)
End result: The offense will have no excuse for not scoring. Russell has a year under his belt, McFadden, Michael Bush and Justin Fargas are healthy, Miller is seasoned, Schilens and Higgins can thrive as No. 2 and 3 receivers, Barnes and Mario Henderson can man the edges. Throw in a touchdown maker like Crabtree, and the future becomes its brightest in years.
-David White (SF Chronicle) posted yesterday
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couldn’t agree more. perfect assessment. this is what i’ve been saying since January
April 21st, 2009 at 9:07 am
If Curry goes #1 as a MLB, there is NO WAY you can tell me that 7 is too high for Maulauga.
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Jhill: there is NO WAY we should build our franchise by the example of the Detroit Lions
April 21st, 2009 at 9:10 am
WE need to get back to RAIDER football we need teams to fight there way into the MAC, fight on the field, and fight there way back to the bus like the days of old….i know that was then and this is now but you guys know what i mean i want to get nasty again…..can you hear it…..its echoing through the stadium RRRRRRRRAAAAAAAIIIIIIDDDEEEERRRRSSSSS!!!!!!!!
April 21st, 2009 at 9:12 am
There is a considerable chance Texas Tech wide receiver Michael Crabtree will not be on the board by the time the Raiders go on the clock. He really is that big of a deal, and his foot surgery really isn’t.
One way or the other, they still need a difference-maker at wide receiver. Assuming Missouri Jeremy Maclin is in their top-four, and more than a few mock drafts believe he is in their top-one, let’s look at the speedy star from Mizzou.
JEREMY MACLIN, WR, Missouri
Scouting report: At 6-0, 198 pounds, Maclin has what is known as “Raider speed.” He clocked in at 4.3 seconds during his pro-day 40, and his speed translates fluidly on the field with pads on. Runs for miles after the catch, if only because he’s almost uncatchable, making him a threat to score from any point on the field. He’s also a stud on punt returns, to boot.
Pros: Everyone knows Al Davis loves his receivers to be track-speed fast, so Maclin would fit right in as a rookie. Most speedsters are allergic to contact, if only because their speed is often made possible by leaner frames. Not so with Maclin, who will go over the middle to make a catch and leap for a ball in traffic. He’s a credible downfield blocker, a plus in the Raiders’ run-minded offense. This is one receiver who can stretch the field and open up Davis’ preferred vertical game, and he won’t have difficulty running down a JaMarcus Russell sideline pass. He was overshadowed by Crabtree for years, but would still become the Raiders’ most potent deep threat the instant they draft him.
Cons: The Raiders already have a fast receiver who can return punts. His name is Johnnie Lee Higgins, though he’s a bit smaller than Maclin and not nearly as accomplished coming out of college. Maclin is not a polished route runner, but then, that’s what coaching is for. Of small concern, he suffered a major knee injury in 2006, so durability may be a concern. Higgins is a star punt returner, so a significant part of Maclin’s game would be rendered moot. Same goes with kick returns, where up-and-coming Tyvon Branch and former Pro Bowler Justin Miller are locked in.
Draft impact: Maclin would infuse additional speed to an already-quick receiving group, but they would be tempted to add a sizeable receiver later in the draft — maybe a Ramses Barden of Cal Poly. If we learned anything about the Raiders’ last Super Bowl run, Davis can never have too many receivers on deck.
End result: Copy-paste yesterday’s answer about Crabtree, though with less of a red-zone track record. The offense will have no excuse not climbing the passing and scoring charts. Russell has a year under his belt, McFadden, Michael Bush and Justin Fargas are healthy, Miller is seasoned, Chaz Schilens and Higgins can thrive as No. 2 and 3 receivers, Barnes and Mario Henderson can man the edges. Throw in a potential home-run hitter like Maclin, and the Raiders can finally escape the bottom half of NFL scoring and passing rankings
-David White (SF Chronicle) posted today
April 21st, 2009 at 9:20 am
look i dont care if we stand pat on defence this year and draft crabtree,floppy titty smith,i dont care….but someone needs to tell ou d to start kicking some asre and busting some effing heads in our there all going to be looking for work next year.. al needs to get back to what made this team great for so many years…. kicking everyone A$$… im on one today if you cant tell… to much coffee maybe..but i just want to start winning like the rest of you
April 21st, 2009 at 9:31 am
1. Left Tackle or Crabtree, there are two Cadillacs that could be available at #7 and there is a highly decorated WR. I don’t know how they rate on the Raider’s board, but I guarantee it will be one of these three.
2. Defensive End, If they get a LT with the first pick, they are going defense with #2 and this round is ripe with fantastic ends. Kruger, Johnson, Gilbert, Ayers, maybe Tyson Jackson. If none of these guys are still around I could see them taking Ron Brace or Jared Cook the Tight End. If Crabtree is the first pick, they will need a LT here: Meredith, Beatty, Loadholt.
3. Time for a weapon, If Crabtree was the first pick, they will go D-line here, but if not, they will get their big red-zone target for Russell in the 3rd. There are some TE’s that could be available here like Jared Cook, Shawn Nelson and Chase Coffman, then there are the big WR’s like Ramses Barden, Patrick Turner, Jaquin Iglesias and Louis Murphy.
4. Strong Safety, they might make a trade before this round, but if current picks hold, they will go for one of their coveted Safeties in this spot. Chip Vaughn, the hard-hitting Mike Mitchell or the speedy Chris Clemons.
5th or 6th. I anticipate a trade to get some picks in one of these rounds, where they can grab a bulky DT or a quick linebacker.
7. DT or LB, depending on the previous pick.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:36 am
Why is nobody talking about Robiskie? The kid seems like he has the most potential to be productive in the NFL, I like him a hundred times better than Crabtree, he comes with less money/risk than Crabtree and with all the same skills if not more. He played against better competition than Crabtree, Crabtree played against joke DB’s (name 1 that is being considered in the draft)and played in a bubble offense designed to get him the ball off screens.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:40 am
Tom Cable on the o-line:
the strength of this draft may be at the tackle position
There are 4 guys who fit what we do at the tackle spot. they are outstanding at the position
He said our OL is in the right spot. Maybe needs another guy. That potentially could be at that tackle spot. We’ll just wait and see.
Said he would love to get his hands on a high-profile offensive lineman if that’s the best thing for us. He’s never had one like that, a cadillac …
there’s four legitimate guys that can play for anybody, regardless of what your scheme is and probably all four can play left tackle. It’s a luxury if ever there’s been one, and I don’t know if there has ever been that many good ones in the first round like that. But there is this year. There has always been a number of first-round picks, don’t get me wrong, but some were right, some were left. These four guys probably can play left.
Says Henderson & Barnes will both “compete” at tackle. neither are confirmed starters heading into next season
Regarding Crabtree:
he’s on film, he’s all over the place. He’s a great player, he is, he’s a great player so I think just looking at your normal evaluation of tape, of what he’s done throughout his career, there’s plenty to see. You know who that guy is.
At the end of the day, it’s about touchdowns and production and if you look at that, there’s probably nobody better, you know? Nobody better.
The pick is OL or WR guys. get ready!
April 21st, 2009 at 9:42 am
if edwards gets traded to the giants which will prob happen, then clev will prob draft crabtree. if we then draft maclin at #7 then we might as well give up this year and next year. we can get a wr in the 2nd round that will be almost as good as maclin. even if we do draft crabtree or maclin at #7, then what, we will lose our games 35 – 20 instead of 35 – 10 like we did last year. we need to stop the other teams offense and we will not do that by drafting a wr in the 1st. remember we have already upgraded our offensive line with barnes, pears, and satile. and henderson did come on strong once givin the chance over harris. but we need to stop the run and pressure the qb. that should be our biggest need. no team has been in the playoffs and one that cant stop the run or pressure the qb. BUT, teams have made it to the superbowl with just an decent offense. look at balt against the giants.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:42 am
I’m pretty sure Mitchell is being seen as the second coming of Jack Tatum and will be a priority.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:43 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 9:40 am
Tom Cable on the o-line:
the strength of this draft may be at the tackle position
There are 4 guys who fit what we do at the tackle spot. they are outstanding at the position
He said our OL is in the right spot. Maybe needs another guy. That potentially could be at that tackle spot. We’ll just wait and see.
Said he would love to get his hands on a high-profile offensive lineman if that’s the best thing for us. He’s never had one like that, a cadillac …
there’s four legitimate guys that can play for anybody, regardless of what your scheme is and probably all four can play left tackle. It’s a luxury if ever there’s been one, and I don’t know if there has ever been that many good ones in the first round like that. But there is this year. There has always been a number of first-round picks, don’t get me wrong, but some were right, some were left. These four guys probably can play left.
Says Henderson & Barnes will both “compete” at tackle. neither are confirmed starters heading into next season
Regarding Crabtree:
he’s on film, he’s all over the place. He’s a great player, he is, he’s a great player so I think just looking at your normal evaluation of tape, of what he’s done throughout his career, there’s plenty to see. You know who that guy is.
At the end of the day, it’s about touchdowns and production and if you look at that, there’s probably nobody better, you know? Nobody better.
The pick is OL or WR guys. get ready!
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Things said prior to the draft are mostly smoke screens to make sure someone else doesn’t take their guy. You think he would give up his draft plans so someone else can trade up and steal that player from them? Nothing said before the draft can be trusted. Maybe he wants someone on the bubble over Crabs or someone else to take Crabs so that other player drops to them. You just never know with the days leading up to the draft.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:43 am
DMunoz26: see post #140
April 21st, 2009 at 9:44 am
edward teach Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Sounds like a pretty good Monday, Raccoon. Hope your Tuesday is just as enjoyable.
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April 21st, 2009 at 9:44 am
Did ShanaRAT just go to the Red/forskins??????
April 21st, 2009 at 9:48 am
and played in a bubble offense designed to get him the ball off screens.
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Almost every huge gain I seen was Crabbs traking a WR screen to the house was that all TT did?? I saw A few over the shouldewr catchges but he was never testeda the poinrt of the ball… how ever I never seen him play in person…and everybody has youtube vids…is he as good as advertised or is he the colt breenan of WR’s??? ( I still like him at 7)
April 21st, 2009 at 9:48 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 9:43 am
DMunoz26: see post #140
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Look at the QB he played with this year, the guy was terrible he was lucky he got the stats he got the last 2 years.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:53 am
It Curry falls to #7 (which is very possible) the Raiders will have to take a long look. They may even consider switching over to a 3-4 defense. Remember Kelly has experience at DE.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:53 am
Robiskie had 2 different QB’s switching in and out with a combined 17 TD’s and 6 Int’s and around 2000 yards, that’s a joke for college.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:54 am
Someone calling themself Nomorefargas,…hey he may not be the best rb in the league, but clearly the biggest heart,…anyway my point is youre a loser.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:57 am
Norco bob, whats up with those skins tickets???
April 21st, 2009 at 10:02 am
If we don’t trade or trade down its gotta be one of the tackles Monroe Oher or the Smiths.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:03 am
If his heart is so big Norco bob why in 5 yrs in the NFL can he still not catch the ball, my point is when Bush&Dmac are ripping it up this year i’ll think of NorcoBob and 1td fargas.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:04 am
DMunoz26: Robiskie couldn’t select who the QB was …
Crabtree couldn’t choose SEC defenses to play against or what offense TT ran …
he’s a playmaker. he scores touchdowns. draft him!
April 21st, 2009 at 10:05 am
Nnamdi is on espn2 right now
April 21st, 2009 at 10:06 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 10:04 am
DMunoz26: Robiskie couldn’t select who the QB was …
Crabtree couldn’t choose SEC defenses to play against or what offense TT ran …
he’s a playmaker. he scores touchdowns. draft him!
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Crabtree has inflated numbers because of the weak defenses, see Jeremy Maclin’s numbers also. Robiskie is far more polished and at 6′3 is a bigger target and his knowledge of the game and pedigree seem to be superior.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:06 am
I kind of agree with Norco Bob if everyone on the team had the attitude, heart and passion of Fargas we would not be 5-11
April 21st, 2009 at 10:08 am
# SilverNBlack666 Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 10:06 am
I kind of agree with Norco Bob if everyone on the team had the attitude, heart and passion of Fargas we would not be 5-11
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Amen, too many Terdell Sands on this team and not enough Fargas’s on this team.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:08 am
The Ravens are balking at the Cardinals’ asking price for Anquan Boldin, a first- and third-round pick. Similar compensation that the Lions received from Dallas last year for WR Roy Williams. (The Cowboys gave a up a first-, third- and sixth-round pick for Williams and a seventh-round pick from the Lions in 2010.)
According to the Baltimore Sun, the Ravens would be willing to part with a first-round pick, or a second-round pick and a player in exchange for Boldin.
Boldin has been unhappy with his contract dating back to last season, and the Cardinals announced last week that they would be willing to listen to trade offers for the Pro Bowl receiver.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:10 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 10:08 am
The Ravens are balking at the Cardinals’ asking price for Anquan Boldin, a first- and third-round pick. Similar compensation that the Lions received from Dallas last year for WR Roy Williams. (The Cowboys gave a up a first-, third- and sixth-round pick for Williams and a seventh-round pick from the Lions in 2010.)
According to the Baltimore Sun, the Ravens would be willing to part with a first-round pick, or a second-round pick and a player in exchange for Boldin.
Boldin has been unhappy with his contract dating back to last season, and the Cardinals announced last week that they would be willing to listen to trade offers for the Pro Bowl receiver.
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He wants more money than he is worth, he thinks he is worth Fitz money and he isn’t even close to that on the field.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:12 am
I just played NFL 2k5 on ps2 against my neighbor…. we had fargas behind tyrone wheatly amos zeroue and sonme other goof!!!! he really needs to upgrade games and sysy=tems…..either way I put farghas in and dominated!!! I love hart and Soul but not as much as W’s they need to go ahnd in hand!!! Heart And passion can transalate into wins …only if everybody has it…
good call 666
April 21st, 2009 at 10:13 am
Fargas career num rush td 7 rec td 0 fumbles 9 fumbles lost 4
that is for a career 7td 0rec more fumbles than td
April 21st, 2009 at 10:17 am
Its not his fault that the offense is rarely close enough to the goal line for him (or anyone for that matter)to score.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:18 am
# NoMoreFargas Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 10:13 am
Fargas career num rush td 7 rec td 0 fumbles 9 fumbles lost 4
that is for a career 7td 0rec more fumbles than td
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Fargas had fumble problems early in his career how many of those are recent compared to TD’s? He doesn’t put out large stats but he is the heart of this team and makes people pick up their level of play, you clearly have never played football or this is something that wouldn’t need to be explained to you. You don’t get rid of someone who shows more heart than anyone on your team, he plays every play like it’s his last and the fans appreciate that.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:19 am
How many carries did he have on the goal line a lot and same everytime he jumps right into the pile and gets nowhere, so that’s my choice turdell sands or fargas i’ll pass on both.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:24 am
# DMunoz26 Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 10:18 am
# NoMoreFargas Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 10:13 am
Fargas career num rush td 7 rec td 0 fumbles 9 fumbles lost 4
that is for a career 7td 0rec more fumbles than td
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Fargas had fumble problems early in his career how many of those are recent compared to TD’s? He doesn’t put out large stats but he is the heart of this team and makes people pick up their level of play, you clearly have never played football or this is something that wouldn’t need to be explained to you. You don’t get rid of someone who shows more heart than anyone on your team, he plays every play like it’s his last and the fans appreciate that.
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8yrs of football and played rb, aren’t you the idoit who keeps on with the my sources tell me bush is gonna be traded today.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:25 am
# NoMoreFargas Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 10:19 am
How many carries did he have on the goal line a lot and same everytime he jumps right into the pile and gets nowhere, so that’s my choice turdell sands or fargas i’ll pass on both.
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That also has to do with the O-line, you clearly don’t understand the game. What is he supposed to do run through his own O-line and the 8-9 people in the box on defense? The O-line has been trash for years we rarely dominated anyone’s defensive line, not asking a lot are you.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:27 am
Of course you need the o-line and we have been terrible at thats spot but come on the guy has awful vision, and vision can make a 2yr loss into a 3yrd gain.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:30 am
# NoMoreFargas Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 10:24 am
# DMunoz26 Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 10:18 am
# NoMoreFargas Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 10:13 am
Fargas career num rush td 7 rec td 0 fumbles 9 fumbles lost 4
that is for a career 7td 0rec more fumbles than td
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Fargas had fumble problems early in his career how many of those are recent compared to TD’s? He doesn’t put out large stats but he is the heart of this team and makes people pick up their level of play, you clearly have never played football or this is something that wouldn’t need to be explained to you. You don’t get rid of someone who shows more heart than anyone on your team, he plays every play like it’s his last and the fans appreciate that.
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8yrs of football and played rb, aren’t you the idoit who keeps on with the my sources tell me bush is gonna be traded today.
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Way to show you level of intelligence by resorting to 3rd grade name calling, you haven’t proved anything. Tiki Barber had problems the first part of his career with fumbles and had to adjust how he carried the ball to fix it. Adrian Peterson had 4 fumbles 3 lost last year and 9 fumbles the year before with 4 lost, both had a similar number of carries and Peterson has a large number more fumbles but I bet you would take him on your team right?
April 21st, 2009 at 10:32 am
# NoMoreFargas Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 10:27 am
Of course you need the o-line and we have been terrible at thats spot but come on the guy has awful vision, and vision can make a 2yr loss into a 3yrd gain.
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Vision doesn’t stop 2-3 linemen/LB’s 2 yards deep in the backfield. Watch the games and tell me how many times he was tackled in the backfield as he was getting the ball because people were unblocked.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:36 am
The Raiders have plenty of areas to address in this weekend’s NFL draft. And because of trades, they have only five selections.
TOP NEED: FIND ANOTHER OFFENSIVE TACKLE
Coach Tom Cable sees four offensive tackle prospects who could help the Raiders. Of the elite four, two should be available with the Raiders’ first selection. Baylor’s Jason Smith and Virginia’s Eugene Monroe probably will be gone. That leaves Alabama’s Andre Smith and Mississippi’s Michael Oher. If the Raiders are serious about keeping Khalif Barnes and Mario Henderson at left tackle, they still need depth at right tackle, which a rookie could provide immediately.
UPGRADE AT WIDE RECEIVER
Raiders owner Al Davis gushed over how youngsters Johnnie Lee Higgins and Chaz Schilens finished last season. The duo showed promise. But the group still needs more. The Raiders haven’t had a wide receiver with at least 1,000 receiving yards since Randy Moss in 2005. And no receiver was close to that threshold in 2008. Higgins led the bunch with 366 yards. Most of the passing game relied on tight end Zach Miller and the running backs. The Raiders can’t hope to have an effective offense without more production from the wide receivers. Texas Tech’s Michael Crabtree and Missouri’s Jeremy Maclin are the top-rated receivers and one figures to be available at the seventh pick in the first round. Crabtree would be especially appealing. The Raiders feel they landed the best running back (Darren McFadden) and quarterback (JaMarcus Russell) the last two drafts. Adding the best receiver would position the offense to be potent in the near future.
ADD DEPTH AT CENTER, GUARD
The Raiders traded for Samson Satele to address their need at center. But depth at guard is still a concern. Adding a young player to back up Cooper Carlisle and Robert Gallery makes sense.
GET AN IMPACT SAFETY
The Raiders haven’t had an impact safety since Rod Woodson and are especially thin at the position. Hiram Eugene was solid but unspectacular at free safety. Michael Huff was relegated to special teams much of last season. Tyvon Branch is slated to be the strong safety and is coming off shoulder surgery. It’s often said teams can find solid safeties in the later rounds. And the last two safeties the Raiders picked in the first round (Derrick Gibson, Huff) haven’t panned out. The Raiders aren’t likely to use a high pick on a safety, but expect the team to draft one. Someone such as Oregon’s Patrick Chung was known as a hard hitter in college and would fill a need for an intimidator.
TAKE A LOAD OFF MILLER
Miller (56 catches, 778 yards) has Pro Bowl ability. But the Raiders could get more out of him if they find another tight end to work with Miller. A second tight end who is a capable blocker and pass catcher would help Miller and give the offense flexibility. South Carolina’s Jared Cook is a great athlete, but is he ready to make an impact as a blocker?
-Jason Jones (Sac Bee)
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no way should we pass on DL & LB needs to add depth at C/G and TE … how retarded is that?
April 21st, 2009 at 10:37 am
Fact is the holes were not there all the way around last year consistently, and it showed by all of the running backs having very meager ypc averages 4.4 ypc for DMac and Bush (both skewed by lack of carries and big games) and Fargas 3.9 ypc. The problem is more to do with the line than anything else. The line is easy to identify as a large part of the problem with our offense in general.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:42 am
Dmunoz i’ll give you the o-line has sucked but you have to admit fargas can’t catch the ball and that limits him and the O anytime he is in the backfield, If we still had jordan and rhodes I wouldn’t be such a ball-breaker towards fargas but I hate when rb can’t catch the damn ball and we have 2 young studs ready to go.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:43 am
Better O-line better D-line = better Oakland Raiders
April 21st, 2009 at 10:44 am
Yah adding depth at C/G and TE is way more important than starters on the DL and LB lol… How is that guy seriously collecting a pay check?
April 21st, 2009 at 10:45 am
# NoMoreFargas Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 10:42 am
Dmunoz i’ll give you the o-line has sucked but you have to admit fargas can’t catch the ball and that limits him and the O anytime he is in the backfield, If we still had jordan and rhodes I wouldn’t be such a ball-breaker towards fargas but I hate when rb can’t catch the damn ball and we have 2 young studs ready to go.
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I agree he limits the offense because he doesn’t catch as well but he is a far better pass blocker than DMac or Bush right now so it even out somewhat considering our backs have to block a lot because of the lines short comings.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:49 am
I’ll be back later guys. Take it easy fella’s.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:03 am
My Mock:
1- Monroe/ A Smith
2- M Johnson/ DHB
3- Alex Magee/ Dorell Scott
4- J Williams/ Z Follett
after we trade the 7th this year and a 5th next year for a 5th:
5- M Mitchell/ David Bruton
April 21st, 2009 at 11:04 am
fargas detractors will never get what the coaches see. because they’re caught up in the flash of the game instead what you need to do to win games.
dmc almost got our qb killed a couple of times becuase he’s still learning. fargas’s contributions g way beyond he can’t catch and can’t score. the fail to understand that he helps keep the chains moving better than anyone we’ve had until late last year.
without him our offense would’ve been much worse than it already was. that’s why not one but two head coaches started him.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:14 am
My Board
Curry
J Smith/ Monroe
Crab
A Smith
Orakpo
Raji
April 21st, 2009 at 11:17 am
ADD DEPTH AT CENTER, GUARD
The Raiders traded for Samson Satele to address their need at center. But depth at guard is still a concern. Adding a young player to back up Cooper Carlisle and Robert Gallery makes sense.
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We need to add a starter at Center, and put Satele at RG. Morris can backup both for now, McQuisty can back up LG, and RG also.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:18 am
The braintrust a.k.a. butthole prick
has logged on early today to bore us with his uncanny wisdom :rol:
April 21st, 2009 at 11:19 am
5 players from Mock did visit the Raiders.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:21 am
Trolls,
Where have you been bro? I keep missing you here.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:25 am
too many times guys dislike a player and overlook anything good about them.or they like a player and refuse to see any flaws the player has.with Fargas all anyone sees is the lack of TDs.they overlook all the positive things he does.these same people would have probably disliked guys like C.Davis and M. VanEeghan,after all,P.Banazak scored all the TDs.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:34 am
Al’s picking Raji. He’s not getting a top T and then putting him at RT until next year when Khalif is gone. He’s not getting a WR from the big 12 with too much of a risk when the WR’s with super potential DHB and Britt can be got in round #2. He’s not goin LB when he has 2 really good lb’s. He’s not goin DE when the guys @7 are 1 dimensional at this point. The guy who has the size to be a run stopper and speed to get to the qb can be got at #2 as well M Johnson plus Al likes Richardson. Al wants to stop the run 2 and Raji is a mean dude, perfect RAIDAH!!!
April 21st, 2009 at 11:35 am
1.) LT Michael Oher / WR Michael Crabtree
2.) WR Ramses Barden / LT Phil Loadholt
3.) S David Bruton
4.) OLB Zach Follett
7.) best athlete available, maybe a blocking tight end
April 21st, 2009 at 11:38 am
Dirty Racoon…excellant post on #209.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:40 am
David Bruton, Notre Dame (FS) 6-2, 219
Post-Combine Skinny: It was a special workout from a high-rising prospect. He was big, fast, and smooth with a 41.5″ vertical, an 11-foot broad jump, and a lightning quick 60-yard drill. Originally considered a late second day prospect, he looked like a second rounder.
Positives: A standout on the Irish D with a great combination of size and speed … Excellent tackler. Looked like he was playing at another level at times … Great character. Will bust his tail to get better.
Negatives: Not a tone-setting hitter. A good hitter, but not an elite one … Needs to be a more consistent tackler … Will have to show he can stay with an NFL receiver.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:41 am
I get as frustrated as anyone with Fargas sometimes, and his role should be greatly decreased this year, barring crazy injuries.
However, it does not send a good message to players who don’t work hard enough (i.e. Russell), to just cut one of the hardest workers on the team. The team has done a good job of trying to rid itself of the slackers and lack of work ethic guys, and has re-signed guys like Nmamdi and brought in Garcia to amp up practices and gets guys working hard. Cutting Fargas would send the wrong message, just let him play out his last two years and thank him for his time after that.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:41 am
My Board:
1- J. Smith
2- Monroe
3- A. Smith
4- Crabtree
5- Curry
6- Orakpo
7- Raji
8- Maclin
9- Oher
10- Ayers
My Mock:
Round 1- Raji, Maclin or Oher
Round 2- Brace, Meredith, Loadholt, Britt or Nicks
Round 3- Chung, Sammie Lee Hill, Hood, Barden
Round 4- Mitchell, Bruton, Chip Vaughn, Alex Magee
Round 7- Blake Schlueter, Frank Summers, Tez Doolittle
April 21st, 2009 at 11:43 am
O….coaching LL and USABA teams….really eats into my free time
April 21st, 2009 at 11:49 am
The Oakland Raiders currently hold just five picks in this year’s draft, but they could be looking to acquire more selections when this weekend rolls around. With a logjam at the running back position, Oakland may be willing to part ways with one of its capable rushers in order to address several more pressing areas of need.
Although Justin Fargas has been a consistent performer in recent years, the Raiders could attempt to move the six-year pro from USC. With Oakland’s top pick from last year’s, Darren McFadden, likely to be featured in a more expanded role, Fargas may be expected to take a back seat. In addition, Michael Bush continues to round into form and is also an option out of the backfield.
After seeing little playing time during his first three NFL seasons, Fargas broke out during his fourth year in the Bay Area. He compiled 659 yards rushing on 178 carries and followed that up with a career-best season in 2007. Fargas carried the ball 222 times for 1,009 yards and reached pay dirt on four occasions.
Fargas’ current value is no less than a fourth-round pick and he could even be swapped for a third-round selection if a prospective team is in dire need of a back. Several teams have also expressed interest in Bush, but the Oakland front office seems determined to keep him.
With McFadden a prototypical home-run threat and Bush an ideal power runner, Fargas may find himself as the odd man out. Despite signing a multiyear contract prior to last season, he could be deemed dispensable if an acceptable trade offer is on the table.
Also working against Fargas is the fact that he’s nearly 30 years old, a dreaded number for backs. While Fargas hasn’t been used extensively, he’s significantly older than both McFadden and Bush. In addition, Fargas lacks ideal top-end speed and doesn’t possess the elusiveness desired in a featured back at the NFL level.
While Oakland might show apprehension to part ways with Fargas, a third- or fourth-round pick is arguably more valuable at this point in time. Having three capable running backs on the roster is unnecessary with other areas in need of attention. Obtaining additional selections in this weekend’s draft would be an excellent start and leave the Raiders in better shape for the future.
By Brad Wilbricht (RF365)
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Fargas would only net us a 5th Round pick and Al Davis would probably only trade him for a late 1st/early 2nd round pick. haha
April 21st, 2009 at 11:50 am
Ah, finally found a write-up on Mitchell; According to this he’d be lucky to get drafted. I’m starting to wonder if he is who we think he is, but man he looked good in those highlights. I’ll let the nation discuss what this means:
War Room analysis
Mitchell has been a steady force at safety for Ohio, but he must play close to the line to be effective. His problems in coverage will prevent him from ever getting regular playing time in the NFL; he struggles to stay with anyone, showing stiff hips, and rarely makes plays on the ball. His lack of size also hurts him against bigger, stronger athletes. Mitchell projects as a free-agent pickup for a team in need of a backup who contributes in short-yardage run support situations and on special teams.
Also, some confilicting measurables to what was reported in the Chron. I don’t understand how the 40 time is so different:
MICHAEL MITCHELL MEASURABLES
Height: 5-11 Weight: 215
40-yard dash: 4.71
April 21st, 2009 at 11:50 am
whats goin on happy troll?
April 21st, 2009 at 11:53 am
Best Mock I can think of:
1) Crabtree or Curry
2) Ron Brace or DHB if he slips
3) Mike Mitchell will not last past the third I promise you he is must
4) Ramses Barden is he slips
April 21st, 2009 at 11:55 am
Busy RR Busy
Real busy at work and coaching a LL team and a USABA team makes Happy Troll a dull boy 
April 21st, 2009 at 11:57 am
Mitchell sounds a lot like Roy Williams. Great on third and 2 and goal-line situations, a huge liability on 3rd and longs and any play-action passes.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Trolls………
You don’t seem like a person who should be coaching kids. Very bad influence. I wonder if the parents know about your trolling activities.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Nader64,
I am guessing that is a very old scouting report on Mitchell. From what I read, he was largly considered an UDFA until his pro-day when he busted out the sub 4.4. Now he is flying up the draft boards. Not sure how anybody could think that he is running a 4.7, he looks like a bullet on tape, and since when is 215lbs not large enough for a safety. Either way, I take all scouting reports with a grain of salt, and if the Raiders only get a situational short-yardage situation Safety, that wouldn’t be the worst thing, we have plenty of safeties that can cover.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Looking at The Raiders drafts the last two years, I think that whoever is running it, weather it is Al Davis himself, or if he is getting advice from somewhere else, they are doing a great job. Another draft like the last two and this team will be really set with talent. I do see the biggest need to be building up the defensive front seven.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Troll,
LL!! When my daughter gets older, I think I will get into it too. I can coach soccer.
I know nothing about BB and SB, well not nothing!! lol
April 21st, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Nnamdi on Sports Center. Says his favorite is BJ Raji, but he understands that the pick will most likely be offense.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:10 pm
BBB – that does make sense.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:11 pm
No doubt Nnamdi is sick of getting stuck chasing down running backs, after they have alluded the other 10 stooges out there.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Nnamdi says he trusts what Tom Cable is doing.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Watch tape on M Mithchell, I found 2 on you tube. I can’t post the link, sorry.
He looked great, and even better against big name Colleges like the OSU.
I like him a lot.
Please, Draft him Al. I’m not asking for much. Give me Mike in the 4th or later, and I will not care who else you draft.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Nader,
Here is a nice little blurb that I found on Mitchell from last week:
Meanwhile, a player to watch on the other side of the ball is Ohio safety Mike Mitchell. While he doesn’t have much of a national rep; indeed, it’s a good bet few have heard of him even in his own household, Mitchell has an uncommon combination of size and speed for the position. In fact, Mitchell is a 220-pounder who has been consistently timing in the 4.45 range in pre-draft testing. Mitchell didn’t make a ton of plays in college, but was generally consistent on the field; he also has decent hands and ball skills and picked off three passes in 2008. Like Massaqoui, while not a finished product with a few holes in his game, Mitchell has the kind of physical skills and work ethic pro teams like to bring to camp to work with and could get a call as early as the 4th or 5th rounds at next week’s draft.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Kiper says that OT and WR will be addressed in 1st 2 picks. Says the battle in war room will be over which to take 1st.
Nnamdi agreed with Kipers assessment.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:17 pm
My random draft predictions:
-Stafford will be the first pick, seems pretty obvious but some in here still try to fight it.
-Andre Smith will be available at #7, and we won’t take him.
-Rey-Rey will not be taken until the 20’s, and will be the 3rd USC LB taken.
-If KC does not trade out of #3, there will not be any trades in the top 10.
-Jasper Brinkley will be a 3rd round pick, but probably a few spots ahead of ours.
-Mitchell will not be taken until day 2.
-Raji or Crabtree will be our pick.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Al,
I take it back, I do care.
I still want Mike.
I wanna be,
I wanna be,
Like mike!!!
April 21st, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Nnamdi Asomugha – Nigerian name means “Jesus Lives” according to interesting facts on ESPN
April 21st, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Damn, torn ACL for Leon Powe. If the kid didn’t have bad luck he would have no luck at all. Damn shame.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:21 pm
You don’t f*ck with da Jesus!
April 21st, 2009 at 12:23 pm
# BART Bridge Blues Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Nader64,
I am guessing that is a very old scouting report on Mitchell. From what I read, he was largly considered an UDFA until his pro-day when he busted out the sub 4.4. Now he is flying up the draft boards. Not sure how anybody could think that he is running a 4.7, he looks like a bullet on tape, and since when is 215lbs not large enough for a safety. Either way, I take all scouting reports with a grain of salt, and if the Raiders only get a situational short-yardage situation Safety, that wouldn’t be the worst thing, we have plenty of safeties that can cover.
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I agree. That 40 time is probably an estimate/made up. This guy’s highlight tape is as impressive as any I’ve ever seen. Of course, those are highlights and there is probably some bad tape on him out there as well. But the instincts and raw physical potential in this guy is something I’d like to see roaming the Raiders secondary.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Nnamdi and Mel are reading my mind…
1. Left Tackle or Crabtree, there are two Cadillacs
that could be available at #7 and there is a highly decorated WR. I don’t know how they rate on the Raider’s board, but I guarantee it will be one of these three.
2. Defensive End, If they get a LT with the first pick, they are going defense with #2 and this round is ripe with fantastic ends. Kruger, Johnson, Gilbert, Ayers, maybe Tyson Jackson. If none of these guys are still around I could see them taking Ron Brace or Jared Cook the Tight End. If Crabtree is the first pick, they will need a LT here: Meredith, Beatty, Loadholt.
3. Time for a weapon, If Crabtree was the first pick, they will go D-line here, but if not, they will get their big red-zone target for Russell in the 3rd. There are some TE’s that could be available here like Jared Cook, Shawn Nelson and Chase Coffman, then there are the big WR’s like Ramses Barden, Patrick Turner, Jaquin Iglesias and Louis Murphy.
4. Strong Safety, they might make a trade before this round, but if current picks hold, they will go for one of their coveted Safeties in this spot. Chip Vaughn, the hard-hitting Mike Mitchell or the speedy Chris Clemons.
5th or 6th. I anticipate a trade to get some picks in one of these rounds, where they can grab a bulky DT or a quick linebacker.
7. DT or LB, depending on the previous pick.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:26 pm
If the Raiders take OT at #7, I look for them to take Bey or Robiskie at WR.
If they take WR at #7, I have no idea what they will do after that.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Raider75,
Nnamdi also blamed the coaching chaos and moving players around for Gallery and Huff struggling in their first years in the league.
Even Nnamdi says a B.J Raji would be his “selfish” pick to “SHORE UP THE RUN DEFENSE”
Nnamdi doesn’t make the draft decisionm, but here is the best defensive player on the team pointing out the problem with the run defense. He saying, get Raji and get some help
The defense cant stop the run because of TALENT. Not the scheme, not the offense coming off the field, not Kirk Morrison. Its the talent on the D-Line. You heard it from the man himnself.
1. Raji – DT, Improve run defense
2. Gilbert DE, Mario Williams in the making
3. Barden – Red zone receiver
4. Bruton or that guy from Ohio U – Safety depth
3.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:30 pm
We font want to reach at the 7th, correct??
So let’s look at Top Talent:
Top 10 with QBs:
1- Curry
2- J Smith
3- Monroe
4- Crab
5- A Smith
6- Orakpo
7- Raji
8- Chris Wells
9- M Oher
10- M Sanchez
April 21st, 2009 at 12:31 pm
41 Touchdowns in 2 years? I think Crabtree will be gone by #7.
So A. Smith or Raji.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:36 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 11:49 am
The Oakland Raiders currently hold just five picks in this year’s draft, but they could be looking to acquire more selections when this weekend rolls around. With a logjam at the running back position, Oakland may be willing to part ways with one of its capable rushers in order to address several more pressing areas of need.
Although Justin Fargas has been a consistent performer in recent years, the Raiders could attempt to move the six-year pro from USC. With Oakland’s top pick from last year’s, Darren McFadden, likely to be featured in a more expanded role, Fargas may be expected to take a back seat. In addition, Michael Bush continues to round into form and is also an option out of the backfield.
After seeing little playing time during his first three NFL seasons, Fargas broke out during his fourth year in the Bay Area. He compiled 659 yards rushing on 178 carries and followed that up with a career-best season in 2007. Fargas carried the ball 222 times for 1,009 yards and reached pay dirt on four occasions.
Fargas’ current value is no less than a fourth-round pick and he could even be swapped for a third-round selection if a prospective team is in dire need of a back. Several teams have also expressed interest in Bush, but the Oakland front office seems determined to keep him.
With McFadden a prototypical home-run threat and Bush an ideal power runner, Fargas may find himself as the odd man out. Despite signing a multiyear contract prior to last season, he could be deemed dispensable if an acceptable trade offer is on the table.
Also working against Fargas is the fact that he’s nearly 30 years old, a dreaded number for backs. While Fargas hasn’t been used extensively, he’s significantly older than both McFadden and Bush. In addition, Fargas lacks ideal top-end speed and doesn’t possess the elusiveness desired in a featured back at the NFL level.
While Oakland might show apprehension to part ways with Fargas, a third- or fourth-round pick is arguably more valuable at this point in time. Having three capable running backs on the roster is unnecessary with other areas in need of attention. Obtaining additional selections in this weekend’s draft would be an excellent start and leave the Raiders in better shape for the future.
By Brad Wilbricht (RF365)
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Fargas would only net us a 5th Round pick and Al Davis would probably only trade him for a late 1st/early 2nd round pick. haha
^^^^^^^
I’m all for trading Fargas for at least a 4th Rounder.
The Raiders need more picks! Plus Louis Rankin can take Fargas spot.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:36 pm
OT!!
April 21st, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Interesting point I heard this morning on Sanchez. Outside of USC, there is not a Pac-10 defensive player slated to go in the top 50. Meanwhile the SEC will have a half dozen or so defensive players taken by than, and will have 2-3 times as many defensive players drafted than the pac-10. Point being, and I am a huge Pac-10 homer, the SEC defensively is vastly superior to the Pac-10, Stafford played better competition and is a much more “ready” to play in the NFL early because of it.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:41 pm
So,
Our draft should be like this:
1- best player Available, we have a lot of needs:
Who will be available:
IMO: one of the top 4 OTs, And Maybe Crab, Curry, Orakpo, and Raji.
If A Smith is available, Curry, or Crab. I would take any of them, then Orakpo and Raji.
2- M Johnson or DHB will be available, and it’s hard to pass on that kind of talent.
3- DT: Alex Magee or Dorell Scott. I don’t see Brace as a much better DT, so we not get the same talent in the 3rd.
4- We invited 2 OLBs, and both are projected as 4th RD picks:
J Williams and Z Follettt.
Then we need to trade to the 5th, and try to get:
D Bruton or M Mitchell.
IMO
April 21st, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Justin Fargas is not going to have much trade value. His injury history, lack of TDs and inability to catch the ball does not make him an attractive option for anything other than a depth guy.
Dominick Rhodes is a better option because he can catch the ball.
No way the Raiders get anything for Fargas. I would say MAYBE a 6th rounder…
Fargas is a team leader etc…but he can’t catch and isn’t a very dynamic running back.
He should stay as Oakland’s 3rd option out of the backfield
April 21st, 2009 at 12:42 pm
ANDRE SMITH!!!!
April 21st, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Ok, what do you guys think?
April 21st, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Speaking of the Fargas discussion…the Raiders made a decision to scuttle Fargas when they drafted McFadden. Fargas had a window of about 2 to 3 yrs of being a productive back. They should have went with Fargas and Bush and went ahead and drafted Sedrick Ellis, Ryan Claddy or, yes…Vernon Gholston. I say Gholston because the Raiders would have left him at his natural defensive end position. He busted in New York because they tried to move him to OLB.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:47 pm
defense
April 21st, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Damn, I’m good.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:50 pm
There is an Article on ProFootball365, it says Fargas could be a draft day trade.
Interesting.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:51 pm
like Davis really cares what Nnamdi wants!
LOL @ S&B
Nnamdi complained when Cable benched Huff, but you know what? Eugene outplayed him when given the chance
Nnamdi complained when Cable benched Curry, but you know what? Higgins & Schilens outplayed him when given the chance
Nnamdi complained about Gibril Wilson being cut, but you know what? he sure didn’t help that run defense and was actually a liability vs the pass too! not to mention the fact that he was unhappy and overpaid.
Nnamdi complained about DeAngelo Hall being cut, but you know what? Chris Johnson outplayed him when given the chance
players are just that. players. they don’t make the roster decisions for a reason…
If Nnamdi wants to make the team better he should spend some time with guys like Stanford Routt, John Bowie, Jason Horton, Chris Johnson, Hiram Eugene, Michael Huff and Tyvon Branch. He knows something about covering defenders. He should teach these guys everything he knows if he really wants to be a “team leader”. We don’t need a team spokesman. That’s what we’re paying John Herrerra for.
If you want to know something about roster moves ask Tom Cable or Al Davis. They’ve already said “I’m not telling you” . everything else is just speculation
April 21st, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Raider O,
I liked your previous drafts better. Not sure I am big on this one.
1. Make a stand and pick a player at number 1..who do you really want. Nnamdi said Raji, Crabtree or Maclin. I am going with Raji so Nnamdi can focus on being the best pass defender in the league.
2. Michael Johnson is another situational pass rusher. He plays hot and cold and is not a physical prescense. He is terrible against the run….no thanks
3. If the Raiders feel DT is an issue then go get a starter…If they like Warren/Sands as the starter then just roll with the players they got. Bruschetti is another depth guy. We need a bonnafide starter…I would go linebacker with Brinkley or a WR like Barden
4. I am cool with getting an OLB here. Although might want to consider getting a safety here.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:57 pm
RaiderRockstar,
LOL!!!! To make you feel better, Nnamdi said that Russell needs some help too with Crabtree or Maclin.
But it does say something when a player like Nnamdi acknowledges that the run defense is GARBAGE…I am paraphrasing obviously…but in his words..”If I were selfish I would draft B.J Raji and help shore up our run defense”
Rockstar, newsflash….The D-Line is GARBAGE and the run defense is garbage.
Don’t take my word for it…Ask Nnamdi!
LOL
April 21st, 2009 at 12:58 pm
I am going with Raji so Nnamdi can focus on being the best pass defender in the league.
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Nnamdi has been the best pass defender in the league over the past 3 seasons DESPITE us having a terrible run defense.
Nnamdi needs to shut his mouth and play football no matter who lines up on the D-Line. That’s why we’re paying him $15 million per season, not for his opinion during the offseason …
April 21st, 2009 at 12:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Trolls………
You don’t seem like a person who should be coaching kids. Very bad influence. I wonder if the parents know about your trolling activities.
Cute
Trolling is only a side line. Coaching is a passion 
April 21st, 2009 at 1:00 pm
nader64 Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 11:50 am
Ah, finally found a write-up on Mitchell; According to this he’d be lucky to get drafted. I’m starting to wonder if he is who we think he is, but man he looked good in those highlights. I’ll let the nation discuss what this means:
War Room analysis
Mitchell has been a steady force at safety for Ohio, but he must play close to the line to be effective. His problems in coverage will prevent him from ever getting regular playing time in the NFL; he struggles to stay with anyone, showing stiff hips, and rarely makes plays on the ball. His lack of size also hurts him against bigger, stronger athletes. Mitchell projects as a free-agent pickup for a team in need of a backup who contributes in short-yardage run support situations and on special teams.
Also, some confilicting measurables to what was reported in the Chron. I don’t understand how the 40 time is so different:
MICHAEL MITCHELL MEASURABLES
Height: 5-11 Weight: 215
40-yard dash: 4.71
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Nader…ignore that War Room Analysis. They dont jack about this guy. He runs 4.43 and not 4.7. Of the top 5 rated safeties in this league only a few guys have his weight. One of the top guys Luois Delma is only 200 lbs. to get the scoop on him you have to go find a local paper in Ohio that knows him intimately. As far as he can’t cover, that is complete BS. He is considered very well balanced on both run and pass support.
April 21st, 2009 at 1:00 pm
The Raiders should try and make a deal with the Bills.
The Bills need OT help now badly and they may want to trade their #11 and #28 picks to move up to #7 to get A Smith or Oher.
April 21st, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Nnamdi said that Russell needs some help too with Crabtree or Maclin.
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there ya go. not that it matters
Nnamdi wants a moron and pothead at DT. Does that surprise you? He also thought Curry, Huff, Wilson & Hall were starters and talented players. remember? What did they do for us last year?
let’s review: Hall & Wilson were GARBAGE as you put it in pass coverage
Curry had stone hands
Huff couldn’t tackle or catch balls that hit him in the chest – got replaced by Hiram Eugene. nuff said
April 21st, 2009 at 1:04 pm
SnB,
Let me listen to Nnamdi more, and I’ll get back to you.
You do make a point about me picking a player at the 1st and stay with him.
I find it hard to do that since I listen to you and others, and sometimes you guys make great points and I change my stand. lol
I love the Draft.
April 21st, 2009 at 1:04 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 12:51 pm
If Nnamdi wants to make the team better he should spend some time with guys like Stanford Routt, John Bowie, Jason Horton, Chris Johnson, Hiram Eugene, Michael Huff and Tyvon Branch. He knows something about covering defenders. He should teach these guys everything he knows if he really wants to be a “team leader”. We don’t need a team spokesman. That’s what we’re paying John Herrerra for.
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I am sure Nnamdi has given his knowledge to guys like Chris JOhnson, Hiram Eugene and Tyvon Branch. John Bowie hasn’t attended any practices healthy yet. Michael Huff needs to study more.
Asomugha should be the team spokesman. He speaks better than Herrerra.
April 21st, 2009 at 1:05 pm
DKnight…Oher should drop to the Bills at 11, so why move up? Or they could get Britton at 28 maybe.
April 21st, 2009 at 1:07 pm
The Raiders should try and make a deal with the Bills.
The Bills need OT help now badly and they may want to trade their #11 and #28 picks to move up to #7 to get A Smith or Oher.
***
Can’t we just trade them Green, Johnson, Wilson, McQuistan & Marten in exchange for a 2nd rounder?
that seems fair … that leaves us with Henderson, Pears, Barnes and an OT in Round 1 @ #7
April 21st, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Raider O Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Troll,
LL!! When my daughter gets older, I think I will get into it too. I can coach soccer.
I know nothing about BB and SB, well not nothing!! lol
O…I did it for 12 years with my son and daughter. Now I’m helping my son with his son. Nothing better than spending time with kids
Start her in T-ball an you can pick up the basics. I knew quite a bit from my playing days in LL and high school but still went to coaching seminars and picked the more experienced coaches brains as well 
;
April 21st, 2009 at 1:08 pm
be back later … live chat time!
April 21st, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Dakota Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 1:05 pm
DKnight…Oher should drop to the Bills at 11, so why move up? Or they could get Britton at 28 maybe.
If Sanchez isn’t there at 10…the Niners may go with Oher or Maclin at 10. Heck, if the A.Smith and Crabtree are gone at #7…we will probably take Oher or Raji most likely ahead of Maclin.
April 21st, 2009 at 1:13 pm
SMOKESCREENS are going into their final act this week! LOL
April 21st, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Dknight…I hope we take Oher if A. Smith is gone.
You are probably right, once those tackles start to go, teams get antsy and there is usually a run on them…
April 21st, 2009 at 1:22 pm
If Curry falls to 7 we nab him.
April 21st, 2009 at 1:23 pm
We would be Oakglenn not to.
April 21st, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Jerry Mac isn’t taking my questions today … bummer
the Nation would have liked them!
April 21st, 2009 at 2:15 pm
hello mcfly.
April 21st, 2009 at 2:16 pm
If Curry falls to us (#7) I will jog naked from San Jose to Oakland.
That’s called dreaming “Curry falling to #7″
I wish!
April 21st, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Please don’t do that 666.
April 21st, 2009 at 2:22 pm
please no naked Raiders jogging around please….unless it is a Raiderette
April 21st, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Your right Dakota that would be an unpleasant site.
April 21st, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Former 49ers and Raiders receiver Jerry Rice wants to set the record straight: Remember that super-slow 40 time he posted almost a quarter-century ago, just before the 49ers drafted him out of Mississippi Valley State?
“No way. It was like 4.5,” Rice said.
The 49ers were willing to trade up and draft the future Hall of Famer in 1985, but not the Raiders. They stayed put and picked the much-faster receiver Jessie Hester seven spots later at No. 23.
David White
April 21st, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Per a league source, the Cardinals have only $1.29 million in cap room. That’s roughly one percent of the total available 2009 payroll of $127 million.
So, yeah, they’ll need to clear some space if they’re going to give Boldin a significant raise.
***
maybe the Cards can’t afford to pay Boldin?
April 21st, 2009 at 2:25 pm
I finally dug up some stats on Mike Mitchell, he is not really a tackle machine considering he played in the MAC but even the stats bear out what a nasty hitter he can be. These are for 2008 with Chip Vaughn and Patrick Chung (in that order) for comparison.
PD=passes defended,FF=forced fumble,TFL tackle for loss
Tckls Asst Solo TFL Sacks Int PD FF
62 26 36 4.5 0.5 3 5 2
79 28 51 0 0 2 0 0
90 31 59 0 2 1 0 0
April 21st, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Correct me if im wrong but isn’t LB a pressing need with the lack of depth on the team? From what I can see, Howard, Brown, Morrison, & Ekejiuba are the only 4 names listed. With the loss of Cooper and doubtfull Alston or Condo would be able to contribute. What am I missing?
April 21st, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Anquan Boldin is under contract. So ultimately his options would be to play or hold out and not get paid
April 21st, 2009 at 2:31 pm
666: I could see the headlines now…A san jose man was arrested today running down highway 880 with nothing on but silver and black paint on his face yelling ” we got curry…we got curry “….man had to be tazerd to be brought under control…more at 6:00 back to you kelly…..
April 21st, 2009 at 2:31 pm
There is no doubt that the Raiders are looking for some LB depth in this draft, but not starters in my opinion. I think they will be looking for Jason Phillips to fall into the 5th or 6th, where they could attempt to trade up for him.
April 21st, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Rockstar,
I know what you mean about not getting Qs answered on the live. But today I had one go through where Jerry had to face his own words and decision about Raji, his reply that there are no guarantees that Oher would be a good offensive tackle THIS YEAR (his capital letters) I thought was hilarious. There are no guarantees ANY DRAFT PICK WILL BE GOOD THIS YEAR (my capital letters).
April 21st, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Anquan will try to hold out to get a new contract this year, but will ultimately play and probably play very well. After the 2009 season, he will not play that last year in an uncapped year (maybe the only uncapped year or the first year “rich” teams start the spending spree) on the last year of an undervalued contract. He would be a candidate to sit out the whole year and than be a free agent. He has made getting paid a priority, even with his team going to the Super Bowl, and would expect just about anything from him.
April 21st, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Correct me if im wrong but isn’t LB a pressing need with the lack of depth on the team? From what I can see, Howard, Brown, Morrison, & Ekejiuba are the only 4 names listed. With the loss of Cooper and doubtfull Alston or Condo would be able to contribute. What am I missing?
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most of the LB’s on the roster are here for special teams.
Brown, Alston, Condo, Ekejiuba & Williams are. Ricky Brown has been given a chance to start at OLB and was playing pretty well before his groin injury last year. Even still, I would draft an OLB in Round 4 or 7 for him to compete with. As you said, depth & competition is important. I would hate to see Alston or Williams in the starting line up again!
However, if Aaron Curry is there 7th overall I think you gotta cast Brown aside and go with the sure thing …
April 21st, 2009 at 2:42 pm
r8rpaver
That’s damn funny
April 21st, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Anquan Boldin is under contract. So ultimately his options would be to play or hold out and not get paid
***
Agreed. much like Ocho Stinko, however that can’t be good for the locker room and you saw how bad #85 played last year when he wasn’t happy. Reminded me of Moss in Oakland!
April 21st, 2009 at 2:43 pm
I still go defense with Raji at 7. Build inside out like championship teams do. However, I have no problem getting Crabtree. I’ve come around to getting him because if he were to bust, every commentator, scout etc…would owe the Raiders an apology and a compensatory draft pick…..Just kidding…I think Crabtree could be a difference maker.
If Crabtree is drafted, I hope they don’t bring him along slowly. I hope he starts right away and Schilens lines up opposite. JLH goes to the slot.
Javon Walker should be kept as the 4th receiver? Shields, Watkins and Holland fight for the last spot.
April 21st, 2009 at 2:45 pm
I’d guess that Anquan hasn’t ever recognized the significance of Dec 12, 2012 or he’d play the game cash his checks, chill out and enjoy his millions now without moaning so much about those dollars he’ll never see.
April 21st, 2009 at 2:46 pm
“However, if Aaron Curry is there 7th overall I think you gotta cast Brown aside and go with the sure thing …”
Now back the tazered Raider fan that was jogging on 880 on draft day he had what seemed to be a Vienna sausage looking wiener….it was cold outside that day he proclaimed!!!
April 21st, 2009 at 2:47 pm
M Lonetree : Agreed. the draft is a cr@pshoot …
Rashaun Woods in Round 1. Colston in Round 7.
you just never know
Dorsey, Ellis, Gholston & McFadden did nothing in their rookie seasons. I’m sure their teams are hoping for a big turnaround in their soph seasons
at least DMC had an excuse!
injuries and 2nd on the depth chart…
April 21st, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Jerry yelled at M Lonetree during the chat…
lol
that was funny
DAMN YOU M! I SAID THIS YEAR!!!!!
April 21st, 2009 at 2:51 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Agreed. much like Ocho Stinko, however that can’t be good for the locker room and you saw how bad #85 played last year when he wasn’t happy. Reminded me of Moss in Oakland!
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Which is why the Raiders have to resist the idea of signing a disgruntled prima dona receiver. Those guys end up disrupting the lockerroom, demanding the offense go through them and then in a last bit of frustration demand a trade.
No thanks.
Continue building through the draft.
April 21st, 2009 at 2:52 pm
S&B: I doubt Crabtree will even be there
If Shields can’t beat out Watkins, Holland & DJ Hall for a roster spot what a shame that would be. That’d be worse than Quentin Moses getting bested by Jay Richardson!
Javon Walker might not even make it out of preseason healthy. I wouldn’t worry about him. For all we know he could be planning another trip to Vegas this June
April 21st, 2009 at 2:54 pm
S&B post # 302
did you forget about Javon Walker?
we already have one of those players on the roster!
haha. hopefully he’ll keep his mouth shut again this year. 2 years in a row would be a record for him!
April 21st, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Ok SnB,
You asked me to take a stand and pick a player, do here you go.
1- OT: Monroe/ A Smith/ Oher, or WR: Crab, or Maclin.
2- DE: Ayers if available, if not M Johnson or Paul Kruger.
3- DT: Alex Magee or Dorell Scott.
4- OLB: J Williams, or Z Follett.
Trade up- SS M Michell
April 21st, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Didn’t we trade draft picks for another former pro-bowler who wanted a new contract last year, giving up a second-rounder a fifth-rounder and signing Deangelo to a new ridiculous contract? I don’t think we should go down that route again (although I’m sure Boldin wouldn’t be as bad, but would certainly cost more).
April 21st, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Here where our needs = value IMO.
1- OT/ WR
2- DE
3- DT
4- OLB/ SS
We can get great value with these positions at our picks.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:01 pm
see you guys tomorrow!
April 21st, 2009 at 3:02 pm
What did I miss about M Johnson? I hear he won’t get past Tampa Bay, now some of you are talking 2nd round?
Same with Ayres.
You guys are trippin! Draft of the year if one of those players falls to us at 40. We could go home right then.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Dakota,
yeah, I enjoyed getting YELLED at by JMc. He is our leader here and he didn’t like “implausible” being tossed in.
Say, did you have a memorial for baby mammoth or do you reserve those only for baby Edmontosaurii?
April 21st, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Rockstar,
I am not quite as down on Javon Walker. Only because his knee injury was pretty bad. But he is 30+ and has no more upside to him. The fact he didn’t show up for the offseason program has me questioning his true commitment.
As for Shields. I really don’t think they should have taken a flier on a guy with a knee injury. He wasn’t like Bush, where Bush broke a leg, not a ligament AND Bush was an easy 1st rounder before the injury.
Shields at best might have gone 3rd round.
Tell Oakland to not draft Maclin or Heyward-Bey…..Bust, Bust, Bust
April 21st, 2009 at 3:06 pm
So Nnamdi like Raji, huh. That’s good enough for me. And Warren is NOT the problem, so I see Kelly being on the hot seat this year. 2 years after the knee injury, he needs to put it together.
And Nnamdi likes Huff? Again, good enough for me.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Now back the tazered Raider fan that was jogging on 880 on draft day he had what seemed to be a Vienna sausage looking wiener….it was cold outside that day he proclaimed!!!
——————————————————- I just got a visual about what 10,000 volt would do to a vienna sausage… film at 11:00 LOL
April 21st, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Dakota,
you live in Hot Springs? Google Earth had a fine photo of the jail, but no Kum n Go market.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:11 pm
jhill Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 3:06 pm
So Nnamdi like Raji, huh. That’s good enough for me. And Warren is NOT the problem, so I see Kelly being on the hot seat this year. 2 years after the knee injury, he needs to put it together.
And Nnamdi likes Huff? Again, good enough for me.
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In the ideal world…the Raiders come away from the first day with either Raji or Gilbert on the roster.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:12 pm
JHill,
If R Ayers and M Johnson are gone at 40, and mist likely that will happen. Then we should draft DE Paul Kruger from Utah. He is rated 7th – 10th best DE, and he is in the top 50 on a lot of Boards.
He is 6′4 265- 270.
Bench: 24 reps, ayers had 18
Ran a 4.79 at his pro day, and a 4.86 at the Combine.
Vertical: 33″
April 21st, 2009 at 3:14 pm
ideal would be to trade dwon and take ayers in 1st round. wr in second and chung in 3rd.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:15 pm
The deepest position in this draft us DE, Right? So why bit get one at 40th where there us still good value at the position.
At 7th, I see the value at OT and WR if Curry is gone. IMO
Do you guys agree?
April 21st, 2009 at 3:16 pm
NJ trade down with who ?
April 21st, 2009 at 3:17 pm
round 1 Raji
round 2 Britt
round 3 best LB
round 4 best S
April 21st, 2009 at 3:18 pm
I just watched both Maclin and Crabtree’s highlights on Youtube…Maclin looks a lot like JLH, I didn’t get to see many plays where his route running skills or great hands shined…Crabtree looks like a young TJ Housh: awesome hands, brave in the middle, out-muscling small DBs, but gets caught from behind very often…We can get speed further down the draft..We can probably also get a big possession receiver in later rounds…any thoughts?
April 21st, 2009 at 3:20 pm
In 13 games, Paul Kruger had:
61 TKLs, 17.5 TFL, 7.5 Sacks, and 7 passes broken up.
Great numbers, and be has good size.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Funny how things work SnB …
We threw around the idea of Kelly going back to DE, and more specifically LDE.
Now Nnamdi publicly endorses Raji.
We know Warren and Kelly aren’t going anywhere.
All these things put together now have me pulling for Raji at 7 if Orakpo is gone. That would almost surely mean that Kelly is going back to DE, which isn’t a bad thing at all. It was his play there, along with his versatility to play DT that got him the contract in the first place.
I can get on board with that, although I still would like to see Maulauga at 7, and a DT in the 2nd.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Ricky Brown is the most physical LB we have. I have no problem with him being on the field.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Again, it’s so deep at DE. Wecal also get Jarron Gilbert.
So at 40th:
Ayers/ M Johnson if available
If not
Jarron Gilbert/ Paul Kruger
April 21st, 2009 at 3:26 pm
The defensive end has to be able to play the run and rush the passer.
No more of these hybrid guys or DEs that aren’t physical enough to mix it up. The Raiders defense is getting killed on the ground right now.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:26 pm
We have to get the best value at our picks, and we shouldn’t reach till the 4th RD.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:28 pm
R8rpaver
many different teams. first possibly jets. if sanchez is still on the board. 2nd – bills, if any of the top 3 OT are still available. 3rd – wash if sanchez is on the board. 4th – philly says they still might be willing to send a package of picks in order to move up. i believe they would want crabtree. and, if the giants dont make a trade for a wr, they have extra picks they are looking to unload so moving up might be the answer. i know that st louis, kc and clev are also looking to trade down so it doesnt look like a strong possibility but it would be ideal.
raidero
i also disagree with you. wr is the deepest position in the draft. not DE. thats why it is a must we go defense with #7. we can draft a wr in round 2.
1st – raji or curry
2nd – britt or robiski
3rd – chung
and if we could somehow get an extra 2nd or 3rd round pick – barden
April 21st, 2009 at 3:29 pm
We need to get players playing in the right position, first and foremost. I agree that we don’t need a NT, per se. We need to stop aligning one of our 4-3 DT up like a 3-4 NT, and causing unbalanced lines. Too many times last year we have Sands or Warren line up directly over the C. Awful!
April 21st, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Trade down. Draft Maualuga.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:30 pm
You know it just cracks me up when ever I read that the Raiders drafts have been good or great the last few years, That Al Davis must be listening to someone else or some else is doing it. Why not be fair and give credit where credit is due if you see it that way.
Everyone would readily give Al Davis FULL CREDIT for any misses, not knowing one iota more than they know when we have hits.
Listen as hard as this may be for some in here to grasp. Prior to the 6 losing years the Raiders had the best overall record in NFL history. That is primarily due to one man’s efforts, this Al Davis that most of you haven’t a clue who he is or what he does.
Half you freakin dumbells would take Jerry’s word on a player over Al’s. That may sound like a joke but it’s true. Save a player here or there this roster was biult by Al Davis………….period.
Like it or believe it or not. It’s true.
Tom Cable will have his say as will others but the final decision ALWAYS rest with Big Al. If he doesn’t want it to happen it aint gonna happen.
Figure it out! the man is not in the HOF because he bluffed his way there.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:32 pm
I wonder how other teams would rate Sands against Ron Brace or any of the other NTs in this draft.
I think we might be able to geta 3rd or 4th for Sands. He has a much diff value to a 3-4 team.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:32 pm
The reason I like Crabtree isn’t because of his speed. We have plenty of speed with JLH. What Crabtree provides is a great red zone and third-and-long option because of his great hands and ability to get open. He’s going to demand extra coverage, and open things up for JLH down the field so Russell can utilize his cannon of an arm.
That said, I’d also like to see Hakeem Nicks or Ramses Barden for the same reason. But Crabtree is easily the most talented receiver in the draft and if he’s available, I’d take him over Raji, Andre Smith, and Orakpo.
That said, if Oher is available, it’s a tough call. Got to like a guy with that combination of size and speed, and especially with his work ethic.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Nnamdi praised Raji but he also praised Huff and was torn up when the Raiders dumped the great DeAngelo Hall. He also called Rob Ryan’s ability to dissect an offense “Belichick-like.” Incredible player but that doesn’t mean his evaluations are equally as reliable.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Jhill: I agree with you about Maulauga at #7..alot of guys in here say he misses tackels and wiffs.. if he hammer people 8 out of 10 times thats not bad and i would take that. I want the QB to look to see where he is at all times when he comes to the line, plus i thought we wanted to keep the opposing off in 3rd and long to make them throw the ball. If he can take 50 yards a game away being a 2 down back and bring alot of nasty to the field then i think he is worth the #7
April 21st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
i see people are forgetting about my man Jaspar Brinkley…
3rd round boys…
Raji in the first…
Brace in the second…
DEFENSE !!!
April 21st, 2009 at 3:38 pm
JHill,
The problem with Sands is he is entering his Ninth Season. He is supposed to be in his groove right now.
What’s the upside? If Sands was in his 5th or even 6th year…I’d say ok, lets see what he can do.
But to be in the 9th year and still not be in shape and not make much of a difference is unfortunate.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Sands won’t make it out of training camp if we take at least one DT in the draft…
April 21st, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Jhill, you discovered Ricky Brown to huh? The kid is a player isn’t he? He really does remind me of Romo without the craziness. I would still take Cushing or Curry over him. But he really doesn’t get the credit for the player that he is, I like the kid.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Hi TJ,..I was on Gary today!!!
April 21st, 2009 at 3:44 pm
afer saying all that about Rey i wouldnt mined seeing raji either
1 raji/ rey
2 robiskie
3 chung
April 21st, 2009 at 3:45 pm
TJ,..who do you and Mike Taylor want with the 7th pick?
April 21st, 2009 at 3:45 pm
M Johnson is big enough and definately fast enough to be the complete DE. Raji and Kelly in the middle to collapse the pocket and Burgess/Scott/and M Johnson look alot faster. Britt looks like he could be a our #1 WR tho. That #2 pick is tougher than our #1
April 21st, 2009 at 3:45 pm
I’d love to see us get another 2nd round pick and get Brace. With so many holes to fill on both sides of the ball though, the priority has to be offense. If Russell is going to be successful, he needs to start showing us what he was drafted to do. We need to get him better protection, and give him more chances to rocket the ball down the field.
Like I’ve said before, he’s not a scrambler or a game-manager. His skill set revolves around the deep ball and his quick release. He needs to work on his judgment and his footwork, but with better protection and a legitimate number one receiver, those things are going to come a lot easier.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Chris in NY Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Nnamdi praised Raji but he also praised Huff and was torn up when the Raiders dumped the great DeAngelo Hall. He also called Rob Ryan’s ability to dissect an offense “Belichick-like.” Incredible player but that doesn’t mean his evaluations are equally as reliable.
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Yeah, but he acknowledges that the run defense is bad. That’s enough for me. Nnamdi won’t make the decision, but clearly the decrepit defensive line has to go. And now we know that a STARTER on the defense feels the same way, maybe not as strongly as I stated, but nonetheless sees a need
April 21st, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Maclin on nfl network here in a sec,..lets see what he has to say.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:47 pm
The Raiders also brought in this Bruschetti guy because, again, they recognize that the current DT roster is not competitive.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:48 pm
By the way, about 6 months ago tim brown was on the radio saying maclin was much better then crabtree.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Is Mike Lombardi even aware the when he speaks on nfl network that viewers are laughing at him?…what a tool.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:51 pm
On Jeremy Maclin….what is it about his game that makes him a top 10 pick?
Is it his hands?
His ability to catch in traffic?
Is it BLAZING speed?
Is it his route running?
How about his size?
Or was it the Youtube clips….
April 21st, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Jhill good post #332 that’s what I say about peple in here is when the player is on our roster they tend to severely undervalue him. Because of the losing the don’t think they can play.
Ron Brace is a nice NG if what you NEED is a NG but we have 2 that fit the system we have. Sands didn’t play well but he was no where near as bad as they say he was. Neither was Warren.
As quiet as kept you were talking about a player in R Brown, when he went down is when I really noticed teams running right off tackle with more success. Ricky isn’t as physical as he is instinctive and aggressive. Something Sam Williams never was. Now he needs continue to develope but the kid can play.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Ouch….called Rey Mauluga a “part time player”
April 21st, 2009 at 3:53 pm
hmmm,..maclin…Im like what he has to say,..if we take him im cool with it.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:53 pm
I just don’t see anything happening on the DT front for another year (and that’s assuming the Tommy Kelly experiment doesn’t pan out as planned). Works for me, as this year’s DT class isn’t exactly deep. I don’t think we’ll grab Raji unless both Smiths, Monroe, Crabtree, Oher, Maclin, and Curry are all off the board.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Priesttj,
So all the media, Jerry, the people on this board and Nnamdi Asomugha are full of s$@! because we think the D-Line needs to be upgraded to stop the run?
I think anyone who is satisfied with Warren/Sands at NT is in a distinct minority.
Most people think DT is an issue. The question that arises is whether DT is the number 1 issue over other positions.
But to think everything is cool with the DT, and D-Line for that matter, is a little optimistic
April 21st, 2009 at 3:58 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 3:53 pm
I just don’t see anything happening on the DT front for another year (and that’s assuming the Tommy Kelly experiment doesn’t pan out as planned). Works for me, as this year’s DT class isn’t exactly deep. I don’t think we’ll grab Raji unless both Smiths, Monroe, Crabtree, Oher, Maclin, and Curry are all off the board.
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And we will continue to lose. The team has to come away from the 1st two rounds with at least one new DT/DE
April 21st, 2009 at 3:59 pm
i see andre smith signed with rick smith of priority sports…
my understanding is that andre wanted rick because of his undergraduate work toward a pre-med…
(rick told andre that he wanted to be a gynecologist…)
well, needless to say, that sealed the deal…
word is andre’s post natal care is going fine… but a little extra advice now and then could come in handy…
April 21st, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Yu guy’s are crazy, Nnamdi endorsing Raji means about as much as one of you endorsing him. Raji can play but Nnamdi doesn’t have any more of a clue what Al davis will do than any of you.
It means nothing……other than Nnamdi’s own personal opinion. WOW! you guy’s are grasping at straws. Get outta the house go for a run. You’re going stir crazy.
RELAX!!!!!!!!!!!
April 21st, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Pete,…you trying to be funny is painful….stick to your usual routine, which is posting meaningless drivel, thats your strength.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:07 pm
TJ!!!…who are you and Taylor wanting at 7?
April 21st, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Man, I’m getting annoyed seeing all these supposed “experts” mock guys have us taking Maclin.
I hope those “experts” have some bad info….because I’m going to be pissed if the old man and coach cable pick Maclin ahead of players like Crabtree, A Smith, Curry, Oher, Raji and Maualuga!
April 21st, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Norco Bob Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Pete,…you trying to be funny is painful….stick to your usual routine, which is posting meaningless drivel, thats your strength.
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didja run outta happy pills ???
April 21st, 2009 at 4:09 pm
priesttj Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Yu guy’s are crazy, Nnamdi endorsing Raji means about as much as one of you endorsing him. Raji can play but Nnamdi doesn’t have any more of a clue what Al davis will do than any of you.
It means nothing……other than Nnamdi’s own personal opinion. WOW! you guy’s are grasping at straws. Get outta the house go for a run. You’re going stir crazy.
RELAX!!!!!!!!!!!
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You are right about Nnamdi’s impact on the draft. He’s on the outside looking in too. Also, he talked more about getting a receiver by the way.
The issue isn’t that Nnamdi is swaying the decision makers..he’s not…
The point being made is that the run defense is bad and an upgrade on the D-Line is needed. That’s the point. I’ll take Nnamdi’s opinion with that and take his opinion into account like I take others…
Especially for those who seem to be pleased with Terdell Sands and Gerard Warren manning the position and blame Javon Walker for the run defense.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Florida Pete, I agree with Bob. Given that you are from Florida, if indeed you are, it would be best that you never attempt to say anything humorous or intelligent. It’s just not a good mix.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Chris in NY Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Trade down. Draft Maualuga.
^^^^^^^
I wouldn’t mind seeing that at all. Then get the best OT/WR/DE available.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:12 pm
well guys it looks like crabtree,raji or maclin.i`m cool with any won of them.
p.s. according to my brother in vegas.maclin was on the local sports station their and claimed a 3.16 gpa in college and a 1750 sat comimg out of high school.will get his degree next summer will focus on football this summer.the more i read about this guy the more i like.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Raji or Crabtree….Curry, J. Smith or Monroe if they fall to 7, but that ain’t happening.
Raji or Crabtree at number 7. If both are somehow gone….let the clock run out.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Albert youre a bigger a-hole then pete can ever be.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:14 pm
SNB maybe so but to take the leap based on something Nnamdi said. Or if you really look at the DT’s in this draft It’s just not that deep nor that talented.
that’s what I think you’re missing, most want the run stopped so bad they’re willing to take a chance on anything that might look good. The DT’s in this draft are all very average at best. Why do think we signed Ryan Boschetti as an alternative? There’s Raji and not much else…………..period.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Thank you Bob, I try.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:14 pm
SnB,
DT/DE are definitely positions of need if we intend on being competitive. But again, for this season I’m far more worried about Jamarcus Russell’s progress as a quarterback and team leader.
At best we’re going to be 8-8 (and that’s being VERY optimistic, I’d be honestly surprised to see 7-9), and if that happens, it’ll be because Jamarcus starts performing like a starting quarterback. We need a #1 receiver and someone who can actually protect Russell’s blindside.
If we can pick up some DE depth in the third or fourth round, I wouldn’t be opposed to that exactly. Although there should be a S like Bruton or Vaughn somewhere in there. And we need more depth at SLB, too (Zack Follett could fit this role nicely).
Bottom line is that we have a lot of positions of need to take care of before we can think about even a wild card birth. But none of these positions are more important than WR and OT, because upgrading those spots is going to help Russell progress.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Florida Pete,
I don’t think the Raiders are going to get Raji AND Brace…although that would be fine with me. Then kick TK out to LDE and we have a nice D-Line to work with. But that won’t happen because a receiver will be picked #1 or #2.
So I hope its either Raji/Robiskie or Crabtree/Brace….Oh, definitely grab Brinkley at 3
April 21st, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Pete I never run out,..and I get them cheap on craigslist,..I buy Norcos for 2 bucks each on CL,..vicodin 750`s also for 2 bucks,…i buy vicodin 500`s for a buck apiece,…and I get prescriptions for them all as well as temazapam, (valium)
April 21st, 2009 at 4:16 pm
I also remember something about some scouts thinking that Huff was better suited at cornerback back when he was getting drafted. However i dont believe Oakland would even consider switching him because we need starters at safety not depth at corner.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:16 pm
TJ,..I mentioned your name on the air today with Gary,..he said he misses you.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:18 pm
at #7 you have to go LT if you go T but then your steppin on Khalif Barnes toes. I would like Khalif at RT and get one of the stud LT’s but if Al told him he’s competing for the LT spot, he’s competing for the LT spot. Al’s a man of his word
April 21st, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Maclin is going to be the pick,…zero chance its O lineman,..no chance, not with 7th pick,…very outside chance of raji, but hes likely gone,…its Maclin.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:21 pm
it`s maclin cable said it`s all about production with crabtree off the board the raiders go with the next productive guy.defensive line will be address later in the draft.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:21 pm
priesttj Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 4:14 pm
SNB maybe so but to take the leap based on something Nnamdi said. Or if you really look at the DT’s in this draft It’s just not that deep nor that talented.
that’s what I think you’re missing, most want the run stopped so bad they’re willing to take a chance on anything that might look good. The DT’s in this draft are all very average at best. Why do think we signed Ryan Boschetti as an alternative? There’s Raji and not much else…………..period.
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Raji or Brace are available. The Raiders should get a crack at one of those two. I agree, after that there is nothing and drafting a DT beyond #40 would be a waste of a pick IMO.
Also, don’t forget that DE is a need as well and can help with the run defense. So if the Raiders could get a big body DE that can also get some pass rush…that would help as well. Jarron Gilbert would be a great pick at #40
April 21st, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Pete, Bob’s been kind of a prick lately. Don’t worry about it. Although, he is right about your lame jokes.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Yeah, Priest ..
Ricky Brown looks pretty good to me.
And I really would like to see Kelly back down to 295, and in the DE rotation on 1st and 2nd down. I still like him at DT on passing downs and occasionally on running downs, but he would significantly upgrade the DE position.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:23 pm
M Lonetree Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Dakota,
you live in Hot Springs? Google Earth had a fine photo of the jail, but no Kum n Go market.
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M, sadly the Kum and Go is now a Fresh Start…I find the name change very ironic, lol. First you Kum and Go then you get a Fresh Start…errr, anyhow…just my sick sense of humor.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Norco Bob, what is it with you guy’s?
honestly speaking in the last year or 2 most of the time that I have called that station was because someone asked me to. It’s nice I guess that he misses me but I’m just not that interested in that stuff anymore.
So keep up the good work as well as the bad. Tell Gary I said wassup.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Given our lack of depth, I wouldn’t be opposed to seeing Oher sub in at RT and/or LT as needed, assuming the coaching staff isn’t comfortable with him starting as a rookie.
That said, Henderson’s play can be best described as “streaky”, and Barnes isn’t exactly a sure thing. Assuming Henderson struggles and Barnes gives us his best Kwame Harris impression, we could definitely see a guy like Oher coming in and making an impact. But I don’t think that would be an option with a later-round OT pick.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:26 pm
SnB Defense,
don`t sleep on fila moala and roy miller.both guy`s don`t mind taking on the double team and letting somone else be the star.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:27 pm
YoungAmerican,
I understand your position. As for helping Russell, I only see a few players in the early part of the draft that would make a measurable impact.
Crabtree, J. Smith, E. Monroe, Robiskie, Meredith. Those are the five guys.
I don’t trust Andre Smith and Michael Oher may not be the right guy for Cable’s ZBS.
Jeremy Maclin is a slot receiver and Heyward-Bey is a taller version of James Jett.
The Raider offensive needs are a possession type receiver with good hands and a DOMINANT offensive tackle. There are a couple of guys at each position that can help. Will they be available?
April 21st, 2009 at 4:29 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Given our lack of depth, I wouldn’t be opposed to seeing Oher sub in at RT and/or LT as needed, assuming the coaching staff isn’t comfortable with him starting as a rookie
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A player taken at #7, unless they are QBs, has to start on day 1. Period.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Will do TJ,..so why wont you answer me about who you and Taylor want at 7?
?????????????
April 21st, 2009 at 4:32 pm
MEAN Linemen!
April 21st, 2009 at 4:33 pm
The Raiders also brought in this Bruschetti guy because, again, they recognize that the current DT roster is not competitive
April 21st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
zzzzzzzzzz….
April 21st, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Norco Bob Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
zzzzzzzzzz….
Copy and paste is for losers.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pm
For you Defense guys, help could be on the way. I saw on KFFL that the Raiders had a recent visit from Sammie Lee Hill, the mammoth DT from Stillman.
I have no doubts that the coaching staff is seeing the same problems as Nnamdi, but it sure sounds like they are gonna wait to address it. Kelly and Warren are your starters at DT in 2009, they will only be drafting for depth (especially run-stuffers) in my opinion. There are some decent options for 43 Nose Tackles in the middle and at the end of this draft. I think they will go for DT somewhere between the 4th and 7th. Chris Baker, Sammie Lee Hill, Ernest Mitchell, Terrence Taylor, Terrence Knighton, Khalif Mitchell, Adrian Grady, Roy Miller, Alex Magee and Marlon Favorite to name a few.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pm
The A`s suck.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Time for me to leave, but, before I go, will leave you gents with my thoughts on the draft. Admittedly, it would excite me to see the Raiders take Crabtree, but I feel, after a more rational discernment, that this teams’ greatest need is a lineman, whether that be on the offensive or defensive side is nearly a toss up. I suppose a LT would be more apropos, given that the future of the franchise needs to be protected. So, let the pick be Andre Smith. Adieu.
Your friend,
Albert Bigelow Paine
April 21st, 2009 at 4:40 pm
William the fridge Perry is in the hospital the nfl net just said,..or maybe they said he ate a hospital,..unsure.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:42 pm
SnB
I’ve heard a little about Jamon Meredith, and between him and Loadholt I think we have a couple options for OT in the 2nd round. Will they be impact players like Jason Smith will almost certainly be? Not sure about that, but if we took Crabtree at #7 it wouldn’t be the worst idea.
That said, Ramses Barden and Hakeem Nicks are projected for the second round, and have a similar skill set to Crabtree (if not the natural talent). If Crabtree isn’t there at #7, those guys are certainly solid options.
I don’t trust Andre Smith either. I’m also worried about Eugene Monroe’s injury history, although he could be an impact player. Jason Smith looks like the real deal, but neither Smith nor Monroe will be there at #7. As far as an elite LT goes, Oher is really the only option I’m comfortable with, although in spite of his size and speed I’ve read he struggles in space. Still, he’s a hard worker which is something we don’t have enough of.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Why the hell is Sands still on the roster? He gets pushed back way too much for a dude with his girth. If we are gonna play these overweight wales at DT we´re gonna need at least 6 of them in order to rotate them to keep them from having a heart attack…
April 21st, 2009 at 4:46 pm
The Raiders aren’t going LT with the #7 pick anyway. It doesn’t make sense.
Mario Williams, Kalif Barnes and Erik Pears were brought in to challenge as starters. Maybe Marcus Johnson as well. Still have McQuistan and (gulp Cornell Green) as reserve tackles. That makes 5 reserve OTs as one of the above will be the starting RT. Do you keep FIVE reserve OTs?
My point isn’t to say those players above are starters or not. More the question is why would you bring in those guys until after the draft? I don’t think you sign as many guys like that if you are going to go OT at #7.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Norco Bob Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 4:44 pm
“Mike taylors job?…whats his focus?…undermining and back stabbing?…thats Mikes focus TJ.”
Spoken like a person that doesn’t know sh1t and wishes like hell that he did.
My detector is blowing up every time I read a post from this tool.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:47 pm
In the end Al is gonna out think himself and go back to his old addiction with the 7th: drafting DBs…
April 21st, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Norco Bob Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 4:40 pm
William the fridge Perry is in the hospital the nfl net just said,..or maybe they said he ate a hospital,..unsure.”
Yes, we all read this hours ago. Please refrain from posting stuff that all of us have read at pft.com hours earlier.
You sure are on the tip, wow such insider clout. LMAO!
April 21st, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Snb,
Re: our reserve OTs, it’s a contingency plan. A few of those guys probably won’t make it through camp. There’s always a chance we won’t get the guy(s) we’re looking for in the draft, and the O-line is still a major area of need.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:54 pm
All the king’s horses and all the king’s men couldn’t predict the draft again.
I assume that whichever talking head moron who predicted the Raiders will take a Maryland wide receiver at #7 was reading from a cue card prompted by some hater who probably wished to drown himself when Al Davis was elected to the Hall of Fame.
When anyone buys into the “Raider Speed” as the only draft qualification for the Silver and Black I have to question their outlook, their minds, their honesty. I seriously doubt that the majority of picks over the past 50 years have been chosen solely because they run fast. Some ,yes, but the only criterium? That is denegrating to Al and everyone else who has ever been associated with the Raiders in the past half century.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:56 pm
BS,..um,..we all know who you are,…lol,..clearly you cannot seem to keep coming in here with your poor attitude,…so far thats at least 3 names you have since the registration,..lol,..busted again!…anyway Im out for the night,..cya all later!
April 21st, 2009 at 5:08 pm
MLonetree… well said.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Geez, I missed BHP and his BS.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Narco Boob = Narc.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:29 pm
408 big game tonight
April 21st, 2009 at 5:30 pm
1. Raji, A Smith, J Smith, Monroe, Oher, or Crabtree @7. Even Orakpo wouldn’t be awful. If we trade back for Rey, Cushing or Larinitis at least were filling a need. Trading pick for Boldin or Edwards good bargain as well. Anything else @1 would make summer depressing
April 21st, 2009 at 5:33 pm
KK, you have your own BS to deal with, so you should be fine.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:35 pm
BHP: whats the deal with AW is he in the QB school ?
April 21st, 2009 at 5:45 pm
It would be nice if The Raiders could get a draft pick for AW, but I don’t really see anyone giving one up for him.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:46 pm
don’t know
April 21st, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Fargas, Walter, Burgess are not going to get you much in a trade.
Fargas and Burgess are up there in years….and Walter has done absolutely nothing.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:47 pm
draft an OT at #7, best center or DT in 2nd, Brinkley at MLB in the 3rd and DE in 4th.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:50 pm
I remember William “The Refrigerator” in celebrity boxing a couple of years ago. He was so overweight and out of shape he could hardly move. He fought Minut Bol and all Bol had to do was jab at him and keep him at bay. Perry could move well enough to even get close to him.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:52 pm
If anyone offers any draft pick for AW the team should take it.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Can someone please tell me exactly what time the draft starts…PST? I am totally confused. Thank you.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Priesttj Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Jhill good post #332 that’s what I say about peple in here is when the player is on our roster they tend to severely undervalue him. Because of the losing the don’t think they can play.
Ron Brace is a nice NG if what you NEED is a NG but we have 2 that fit the system we have. Sands didn’t play well but he was no where near as bad as they say he was. Neither was Warren.
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Really? even though we gave up 4.7yds per carry and 159yds per game on the ground?
April 21st, 2009 at 5:58 pm
If released…Walter will go to the Patriots. No doubt about it. Maybe even the Broncos.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Priesttj Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 3:30 pm
You know it just cracks me up when ever I read that the Raiders drafts have been good or great the last few years, That Al Davis must be listening to someone else or some else is doing it. Why not be fair and give credit where credit is due if you see it that way.
Everyone would readily give Al Davis FULL CREDIT for any misses, not knowing one iota more than they know when we have hits.
Listen as hard as this may be for some in here to grasp. Prior to the 6 losing years the Raiders had the best overall record in NFL history. That is primarily due to one man’s efforts, this Al Davis that most of you haven’t a clue who he is or what he does.
Half you freakin dumbells would take Jerry’s word on a player over Al’s. That may sound like a joke but it’s true. Save a player here or there this roster was biult by Al Davis………….period.
————————–
Really? we had the best record in history, before we had the worst record in history? Really?
April 21st, 2009 at 6:00 pm
KoolKell – I still think that we have a terrible run defense mainly because we don’t have the defensive ends to support the DT’s and that leaves the DT’s to try and stop the run almost single handedly. We need a big strong Defensive Line, not 2 strong players. Just my thoughts on that. Anybody would look bad with that kind of pressure put on them.
I’m out for now…peace.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:02 pm
RaidersMom Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Can someone please tell me exactly what time the draft starts…PST? I am totally confused. Thank you.
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Too confused to go on the internet and find out? Really?
April 21st, 2009 at 6:04 pm
1:00 pm pst
April 21st, 2009 at 6:05 pm
11:00am pst pre game lol on bspn
April 21st, 2009 at 6:07 pm
That’s why I am confused KK…different times are being posted.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:16 pm
BHP if we stand pat on the d-line would we try a LB in the first or do you think we draft o
April 21st, 2009 at 6:20 pm
priesttj Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 6:11 pm
KK
Then get someone of the scrap heap you approve of. Or get Raji or Brace. Those two dynamos should solve the problem. Idiot!
My opinion is my opinion. If I’m wrong so be it.
IDIOT
Isn’t that like the pot calling the kettle black 
April 21st, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Dear trolls:
Who, amongst the players that would be available, could the Raider pick at #7 that you won’t complain about either now or in a few years?
If you think they should trade down, what team would trade up and why would they do that if you think the #7 slot isn’t worth having?
You can’t complain about everything. Well I guess you can since that is what you do every single year.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:30 pm
I have personally believed that we need to strengthen the front 7, It’s the only way to be more dominant up front IMO. But the DT’s aren’t the sole blame for the run defense it’s the lack of gap discipline and tackling.
By NFL standards our DT’s aren’t that bad at all. But when teams are running stretch plays and cutbacks normally a DT is not going to make those plays.
You must be disciplined and determined defensively as a unit to stop the run. Hell the Pat’s have Vince Wilfork and if it weren’t for their offense putting up pints their defense vs the run would look like ours.
There are only 2 great teams vs the run in the league maybe 3 Minn, Steelers and Ravens. And the stop the run no matter what the rest struggle as we do. The Pat’s cover up their run deficiencies with their offense and so do the Chargers.
But I don’t expect everyone to understand that all they know are stats.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 6:20 pm
priesttj Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 6:11 pm
KK
Then get someone of the scrap heap you approve of. Or get Raji or Brace. Those two dynamos should solve the problem. Idiot!
My opinion is my opinion. If I’m wrong so be it.
IDIOT Isn’t that like the pot calling the kettle black
——————————————————-trolls your a bitter little man
April 21st, 2009 at 6:32 pm
BadMoodGuy Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Dear trolls:
Who, amongst the players that would be available, could the Raider pick at #7 that you won’t complain about either now or in a few years?
Actually BMG they could draft the 2nd coming of Ryan Leif for all I care
I’m just here because I hate the buttholeprick 
April 21st, 2009 at 6:40 pm
R8rpaver
Oh! sorry I meant to answer that, I would go DE or a LBer. Someone that’s a real force not just a good player but a force. There are no DT’s I really like in this draft or yes I would consider that.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Priesttj,
Tackling = talent….
If it was all about gap discipline, don’t you think that Rob Ryan, Al Davis and any number of NFL assistants would be quick enough to get that? I know Ryan takes a lot of heat…and he should, but the guy is still an NFL caliber coach. If you or I can pick that up, then surely a guy who has coached in New England with Belicheck and was raised by Rob Ryan would get that too. So, too, would Al Davis and Tom Cable.
Fitting gaps seems pretty basic. Are you saying the coaches were that bad that they couldn’t recognize that? That’s extraordinary to me to think that the DC’s inability to understand gap discipline is what’s prevented the Raiders from having a top tier defense.
Personally, I think its talent
April 21st, 2009 at 6:50 pm
“raised by Buddy Ryan”
April 21st, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Avoid you, who are you? and what makes you think I even consider you when I post?
If anything at all your like a court jester.
At any rate, proceed as much as your imagination will allow. Whew!
April 21st, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 6:45 pm
I’ve followed buttholeprick from blog to blog
———————————————————— that right there is creepy…why dont you try some porn and not stock a guy that gives his opinion on a RAIDERS blog
April 21st, 2009 at 6:53 pm
I guess we will found out how much of it was Rob Ryan’s fault. I’ve seen Sands play really well and give me hope that he has finally gotten it together, then he just disappears again.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:53 pm
——————————————————-and they let you coach kids….wow thats a down right dirty shame…you should be ashamed….
Kids are honest and direct
They don’t cower on blogs like buttholeprick 
Can you imagine what the average guy would do to buttholeprick 
if he were to talk to him face to face like he does to other bloggers 
POW!!!! I WOULD NEVER TALK TO A KID 
THE WAY I TALK TO BUTTHOLEPRICK 
But then again buttholeprick 
deserves way worse than I can give him on a message board. 
It’s too bad I couldn’t meet the little prick 
in person 
April 21st, 2009 at 7:04 pm
I saw an interview around Super Bowl time with Ray Lewis. The main topic was the Ravens’ defense and how they managed to be so good year after year. He said the thing that really made them good was that they were very disciplined. Everyone understood their gap responsibilities and played within the scheme, and whenever a new guy came in the vets would explain to him that it was the way things were done there.
They make a lot of big plays, and they do have talent. But they are very fundamentally sound and are disciplined within their scheme. Probably why they don’t give up a lot of big plays and teams have to really work to beat them.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Edward Teach,
The Ravens have a system in place and find players to match the system. Same with teams like the Steelers, Patriots and Giants. Look at the Colts on offense.
When the system is consistent and successfull its probably easier to teach.
My only problem is with those blaming Rob Ryan and the scheme for everything. It seems simplistic. Plus Ryan has been the coach for 5 years. I think scheme played a role, but to say Rob Ryan and the rest of the coaches couldn’t teach gap discipline etc…I think we are putting a lot of undue pressure on John Marshall and company,.
The Raiders defense has talent problems at too many positions. Namely the LDE and NT are not physical enough. The SLB is a question mark and the MLB may be better suited outside. The RAiders haven’t had decent safety play in 7 years.
When you look at the draft, the Raiders spend very few meaningfull picks on the front 7. There safety picks have been a bust.
Need talent
April 21st, 2009 at 7:17 pm
great Post ET! #459 that is what I’ve been saying since Rob was here. Now I’m nt at all saying it’s not his fault because he often tried to get too exotic with his schemes and guy’s were getting caught in no man’s land thinking instead of reacting. So he was at fault, but the defense was inconsistent and you watch the play and you wonder do they even know their assignments. At times the lack of discipline was staggering.
But the they played the scheme and the scheme was more of an attack nature they were very impressive. Even dominant at times.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:17 pm
SnB Defense Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Trolls,
I have to go with r8paver on this one. All the guy does is post his opinion on football. That certainly isn’t important enough for anyone to feel the need to launch a vendetta against him.
Like I said, read his posts. Apparently he’s never called you out for things that you’ve posted….but see how the prick
has treated guys like LMN and some of the others from the morning crew 
And read through some of the posts where he tells you that so and so from HQ told him this was going to happen or that was going to happen 
If you still think that all the prick 
does is post his opinions on foot ball then you’re not all that 
either. If the little prick 
would just give his opinion on football, (religion, news, etc.) without putting other people down or bragging on who he blows 
I wouldn’t have a problem with the little prick 
But when you go around acting like you’re better than anyone else 
it just doesn’t sit right with me. Ask him to tell you about his pharmacist daughter-in-law if you want to hear something really raunch 
April 21st, 2009 at 7:24 pm
——————————————————-Dude find me 10 people on this blog that have the same wants in the same order….thats why people discuss things and give opinions…. he works for the RAIDERS so he would have a little more insite then most of us…but its his opinion.. i dont know the guy but holy crap dude give it a rest
On the last blog he was a doctor. The blog before that he was the director of the BSA. The blog before that he was an under cover agent for the CIA in the Phillipines and Laos.
The guy will tell you whatever he thinks that you are foolish enough to believe 
As soon as someone exposes him he 
leaves the blog until that person 
gives up and leaves. Then he 
comes back. In the meantime he 
will find another blog to pretend that he is a big shot 
and smarter 
than the othe people on the blog. Anyone can google information on the faders (religion, news, etc) and pretend to bknow more than the do 
April 21st, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Priest…yeah, sometimes our guys seem lost out there, and it’s hard to tell if Ryan was overthinking things sometimes or not, and thereby confusing the issue.
I was very encouraged to hear Cable say that there was going to be more emphasis placed on fundamentals and coaching to the scheme. If Marshall and the defensive staff can accomplish that I think we’ll see a fair amount of improvement right away.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:25 pm
There’s a simple way to look at defense. If you can’t stop anything, they basically have three directions to kill you with – left-right & up the middle. That’s where we are now. By adding pressure up the middle, we automatically eliminate two of these three. They can go left or right – not both. Once they’ve committed to a path, it’s much easier to stop them. we need pressure up the middle. That means DT and MLB need to be key add positions. As soon as we can stuff the run our talent at passing defense will pay big dividends. Defense win championships. We need a big defensive upgrade. Take an LOT at #7 but DT & MLB need to be next. A dominant defense with a dominant running game will win 99% of the time. That’s my two-bits worth.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:28 pm
priesttj Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 7:17 pm
great Post ET! #459
ET said something that the prick
agreed with so the prick 
is sucking up 
But just wait until ET disagrees with the prick 
Then ET will just be another idiot who doesn’t know chit about football. Just wait and see 
April 21st, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Ryan had to go for sure. But he and his assistants were all qualified coaches for the NFL and all of them have found new jobs.
Marshall should improve playcalling as Ryan was horrible with that. But I am reasonably certain that he knew what gap discipline was and I am sure that he and his staff would have been smart enough to pick it up in the endless film study they do.
Talent always trumps coaching. The Raiders are very unspectacular when it comes to SOME of the talent on the defense. Especially on the D-Line
April 21st, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Troll… Priest and I have disagreed about things before. He’s never been anything but civil to me about it. Maybe if you’d quit calling people names you’d get a better reaction.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Trolls,
I guess you have a much deeper history with BHP. I’ve enjoyhed his comments for the most part. I can appreciate his position…although I don’t agree with it. In fact, a well functioning democracy relies on people being able to debate and discuss.
I think you would be better off focusing on football and not all that extracurricular stuff.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Well fellows
I’m going to let the prick 
have the board for the night so that he can suck up to you dudes 
But mark my words! Don’t trust the pric 
as far as you can throw him 
And if the little prick 
can prove that he works for the fader orginization 
you all can tell me that you told me so. He was never able to prove who he said he was on any of the other blogs 
April 21st, 2009 at 7:33 pm
why is this an arguement? Nnamdi a corner said he wants raji a run stuffer at that.not a pass rusher not a safety.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:36 pm
SnB Defense Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Trolls,
I guess you have a much deeper history with BHP. I’ve enjoyhed his comments for the most part. I can appreciate his position…although I don’t agree with it. In fact, a well functioning democracy relies on people being able to debate and discuss.
All I can say is just wait until he
finds a reason to throw you under the bus as well. Once he 
finds that reason you will be an idiot who doesn’t know anything about football either 
Come to think of it! Maybe he has been working for Big Al the last 6 years 
April 21st, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Priesttj Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 7:17 pm
great Post ET! #459 that is what I’ve been saying since Rob was here. Now I’m nt at all saying it’s not his fault because he often tried to get too exotic with his schemes and guy’s were getting caught in no man’s land thinking instead of reacting. So he was at fault, but the defense was inconsistent and you watch the play and you wonder do they even know their assignments. At times the lack of discipline was staggering.
But the they played the scheme and the scheme was more of an attack nature they were very impressive. Even dominant at times.
——————-
The terrible defense is the fault of Rob Ryans exotic schemes, Really? (lmao)
Didn’t Cable just say the schemes would remain the same?
April 21st, 2009 at 7:43 pm
i have 2 things to say
1. im starting to hate coming here because i have something that we need in my head then i come here and i find 5 people with 10 other things
2. for everyone that says crabtree only ran “bubble screens” i watched some texas tech games and he had alot of catches down the field and across the middle and he uses his feet to get away from defenders really good
April 21st, 2009 at 7:45 pm
it`s the talent!!!
April 21st, 2009 at 7:46 pm
SnB… One of Bill Parcells’ claims to fame is that he has been able to come in and turn franchises around very quickly. The way he does that is by demanding that players are fundamentally sound and disciplined, and they do what the coaches tell them to do in order for the scheme, be it offense or defense, to work. He has benched players with superior talent because they didn’t want to cooperate, and gotten rid of others.
The thing that makes this relevant is that those quick turnarounds have been accomplished with more or less tha same roster that was there the year before he arrived.
Talent is important, yes, but a decent player that is not disciplined and fundamentally sound will many times “improve” tremendously when required by the coaching staff to play the right way.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:47 pm
BHP is head of the Al Davis Legacy Restoration Project (ADLRP)
As such, it requires him to now throw Rob Ryan under the bus.
It certainly can’t be the Al’s players fault. Or Al’s defensive philosophies.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:50 pm
15yearsold15yearfan ,
crabtree runs more than just bubble screens.but with all college wr they find out the pro db`s are alot harder to seperate from. should be a solid pro but do not compare him to andre johnson or larry fitzgerald.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:55 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 7:47 pm
BHP is head of the Al Davis Legacy Restoration Project (ADLRP)
As such, it requires him to now throw Rob Ryan under the bus.
It certainly can’t be the Al’s players fault. Or Al’s defensive philosophies.”
My detector is humming away with this sh1t.
Come on old man, is that all you got? If you are going to create some lame acronym at least make it spell something humorous! Do you have a level of intelligence higher than a flea for Chr1sts sake?
April 21st, 2009 at 7:58 pm
I’m never that far away and know that I WILL call any and all of you out on any bullsh1t that you try to perpetrate.
Capiche?
April 21st, 2009 at 8:05 pm
KK,
maybe I’m wrong but wasn’t Rob Ryan one of Al’s favorite coaches. So it doesn’t matter wether it’s Al’s players or his coaches. They’re all his hires essentially. So again follow my lead KK, say it with me. It’s Al’s fault.
All better now, geesh!! kindergarden crap.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:08 pm
priesttj Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 8:05 pm
KK,
maybe I’m wrong but wasn’t Rob Ryan one of Al’s favorite coaches. So it doesn’t matter wether it’s Al’s players or his coaches. They’re all his hires essentially. So again follow my lead KK, say it with me. It’s Al’s fault.
All better now, geesh!! kindergarden crap.”
Looks like my detector just shut itself off temporarily. Nice work BHP.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Why would anyone even bother arguing with KoolKell, the man that wants to convert Jay Richards to MLB?
The man’s name is Jay RICHARDSON and he would NOT be suited for MLB at ALL! He is a DE for cryin out loud!
April 21st, 2009 at 8:50 pm
seen a mock today the we take malcom jenkins? true?
April 21st, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Malcolm Jenkins? Man i will lose it Saturday!
April 21st, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Hopefully its true Sammie Lee Hill had a private workout with the Raiders. He is the type of NT we need, not a UT like Raji.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:05 pm
I expect a few moves to be made this weekend. Al has to do something drastic before 2010
April 21st, 2009 at 9:17 pm
john gruden compared jeramy maclin to joey galloway.can someone please tell me why is guy called a bust after posting 102 rec 1260 yards 13 td`s .
April 21st, 2009 at 9:33 pm
i listened to a Nnamdi interview(actually a couple) today and while he endorsed and spoke highly of many players when he was asked who he’d like to see us draft-the player he’d like to see most-he picked Maclin.just thought i’d throw that out there.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:53 pm
yo brien,..wattup man?
April 21st, 2009 at 9:54 pm
great hockey game on,…Shars tryin to hold on.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:54 pm
sharks
April 21st, 2009 at 9:57 pm
brien Iv been hoping for this player or that one for months now,..as of tonight, just like I texted,..I want Maclin,…however if it was raji I would be ok with that,…my best case would trade down, get an extra pick, get Rey….but thats not happnin,..hey if we get maclin,..thats just one more thing to help Russell shut some people up, like me.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Crab is a Diva! Why?
April 21st, 2009 at 9:59 pm
cmon sharks,…4 minutes to go…
April 21st, 2009 at 9:59 pm
crabtree is the next ochocinco.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Bob watching the Laker game and goin to sharks game too. They gotta win
April 21st, 2009 at 10:01 pm
2 minutes.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Craptree is a bitch. Watch his interviews. I smell bitch
April 21st, 2009 at 10:01 pm
sharks started game with gnarley fight,..long fight,..bloody,..set a tone.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:02 pm
crabtree the type player that will want new contract every year,..maclin all biz….head on strait.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Maclin is more Al like than Craptree
April 21st, 2009 at 10:03 pm
ducks go empty net.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:04 pm
fight sharks fight
April 21st, 2009 at 10:04 pm
sharks win!!!!!!!
April 21st, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Sharks the only good team up north
April 21st, 2009 at 10:06 pm
brien that crazy eurotrash Sharks dude set tone with major brawl,…need to do it again game 3,..orange county puusssies.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Sharks ought to play like champs and end this in 6 get ready to smack detroit
April 21st, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Gotta run,…draft maclin,..hes real,..crabtree all hype in silly offense.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:10 pm
ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
April 21st, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Lakers bout to get lucky win. Utah played dumb 2nite. Turnovers and 2nd chance points their doom
April 21st, 2009 at 10:11 pm
daaayam brien,..mickey mouse too???????
April 21st, 2009 at 10:12 pm
lakers never lose on jack nicholsons birthday.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Kell lol
April 21st, 2009 at 11:32 pm
If Curry is there we should think hard about taking him. He can be our own Merriman sans the juice. I still like OLT, DT, MLB, S, in that order.
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:05 am
Kool Kell:
Hey, it scary to hear that Cable says our defensive schemes will remain the same as they were under Rob Ryan.
Here we go again, another six years of losing. Is Cable out of his freaking mind. What kind of idiot do we have running this organization?
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 am
Ya, our defense has lacked good players in key positions and that has hurt us over all. But, isn’t that Al’s fault, along with that Loser Ryan which Al kept on board, even when Kiffin wanted to fire the bum. Our defense was too passive, seldom blitzed and played too much prevent defense and that only prevents you from winning.
The real question is: How much were the defensive schemes coming from Ryan or from orders to Ryan from Davis. Was Ryan just the yes man to Davis, there for the check? When you look back and see hom Davis defended Ryan against Kiffin, when Ryan had been a consistent loser for 5 years, it shows me that Davis is really running the defense and he’s too blame for 6 years of steady losing.
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
It looks as if all you dudes have bailed out for the night.
On the bright side of things, we don’t have Rob “freaking” Ryan around and that alone is an upgrade at defense. Hopefully, Davis will see that his meddling in the defense has only caused it decline, and maybe, just maybe, he’ll keep his freaking nose out of the defensive play.
Good nite.
April 22nd, 2009 at 1:19 am
# Dakota Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Jerry yelled at M Lonetree during the chat…
lol
that was funny
DAMN YOU M! I SAID THIS YEAR!!!!!
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Bwahahahhaa!
April 22nd, 2009 at 2:05 am
My draft
Rd1- Michael Crabtree WR
Rd2- Gerald Cadogan OT
Rd3- Lawrence Sidbury Jr. DE
Rd4- Chris Baker
Rd4- Mike Mitchell S*
Rd7-Cody Glenn OLB
*will be acquired through a draft day trade
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:37 am
What’s up nation.
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:42 am
Good Morning Nation!!!!
Hows y’all doing this morning?
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:58 am
Morning Nation!!!
Jerry MAC wants Crabbs!!!!!!!
So do I….What the hell right, try for the homerun swing hope fully we never draftg this high again might as well take the BEST player available and hope he is a star!!!
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:59 am
Good Morning Raider Nation.
The jockeying for draft position is getting hectic and full of smoke. If the 2 QB’s go in the top 5, then our pick will be so much better. LT or Crabtree.
April 22nd, 2009 at 6:03 am
good morning Hwnrdr, NMF, OAKlifer, exla …
April 22nd, 2009 at 6:06 am
Morning RaiderRockstar,
1 day closer to 4-25-09 4:00 p.m. E.D.T.
April 22nd, 2009 at 6:10 am
I watched NFL Live last night and Trey Wingo had James Hasty, Marcellus Wiley & Nnamdi Asomugha on the panel.
They asked Nnamdi what he thought the Raiders would do. He said that the trend has been to build the offense with guys like Robert Gallery, JaMarcus Russell, Zach Miller and Darren McFadden.
Funny he didn’t mention Barnes, Henderson, Higgins or Schilens. Not even Fargas, Bush or Walker …
He said that the Raiders should add a dynamic wide receiver on offense to give Russell a go to guy and a deep threat to stretch the field. somebody to make plays and score points
Mel Kiper Jr. got on there with Nnamdi and asked him if he would rather have Jeremy Maclin and William Beatty or Andre Smith and Mohamed Massaquoi … Nnamdi picked Maclin!
your thoughts?
April 22nd, 2009 at 6:16 am
They asked Nnamdi about Russell and he said Russell has all the physical tools, but needs to improve on the mental aspect of the game. Basically indicating that he’s dumber than a stack of bricks … he thought Jeff Garcia might help in this area
Nnamdi said that a shutdown corner is more important than a dominant pass rusher (big surprise). He said that a defense can bring heat from the LB or safety position, but a shutdown corner is alone on an island. When did Rob Ryan ever blitz or send LB’s or DB’s with a full head of steam at the QB? maybe 3 times per season? Is this part of the Marshall plan to be more aggressive on D? Nnamdi obviously wouldn’t have said that if we were still going to implement a Ryanesque style of defense, right?
Wingo said that the Raiders have excellent return guys, but Higgins is basically just a special teams guy right now. Nnamdi remained silent
Interesting, huh?
April 22nd, 2009 at 6:20 am
I hope we play the Lions soon. What a diss in this article. “If you get rid of Matt Millen, you don’t want to be like Al Davis.” http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AlIMbhH.nI.azX9lYn2nvSA5nYcB?slug=dw-lionssign042109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
April 22nd, 2009 at 6:23 am
I would assume that Nnamdi discussed defensive plans and changes to defense before he agreed to the new contract. He’s alway been in direct contact with AD.
April 22nd, 2009 at 6:26 am
Draft analysis: Andre Smith
For the past two days, we examined the top-two receivers in the draft — Michael Crabtree and Jeremy Maclin — and what they could do for the Raiders if drafted with the No. 7 overall pick three days from now.
But be sure, the Raiders need more than a wide receiver to fix their struggling passing and scoring offense. The best receivers in the world can only do so much for quarterback JaMarcus Russell if he doesn’t have time to launch the ball out of a crumbling pocket.
The Raiders need an elite left tackle, and have needed one for years now. Pass protection on the left side has been a problem, and has been for years now. Penalty-free play on the edge has … well, you know the song by now.
Raiders coach Tom Cable said there are four positions in need of addressing in this draft. Left tackle is one of them, and a major one at that. Mario Henderson has a future here, but Khalif Barnes is under a one-year deal and returning right tackle Cornell Green was in trouble before his recent arrest.
Today, let’s look at the best left tackle expected to be available at No. 7 — while assuming the top-two, Eugene Monroe of Virginia and Jason Smith of Baylor, won’t be.
ANDRE SMITH, OT, Alabama
Scouting report: The 6-4, 332-pounder won college’s award as the top lineman for a reason. He’s mighty quick for someone his size, making him able to accelerate to the second level in run blocking while being strong and long-armed enough to keep edge rushers at bay. And don’t bother trying to bull-rush the man.
Pros: He has the potential to be a star right out of the gate, something that eluded their previous three first-round tackles (Mo Collins, Matt Stinchcomb and Robert Gallery). Size doesn’t really matter in a zone-blocking scheme, which favors speed and athleticism. What makes Smith different is he has it all. Not that Al Davis burns through coaches, but Smith can easily adapt to a power scheme if a coaching change brings a new system.
Cons: It’s the off-the-field stuff that hammers the guy. He was suspended from Alabama’s bowl game because of contact with an agent. He was not in shape for the NFL combine, then bailed early without giving a head’s up, then fired his agent. Davis isn’t scared off by character red flags, but Cable is much more weary. His game has inconsistencies that must be coached out of him.
Draft impact: If the Raiders go o-line in the first round, that leaves them with fewer instant-impact wide receivers to choose from. The receiver class is deep, but up to six figure to go in the first round. In other words, the Raiders will get no better than the seventh-best receiver in the lot by Round 2. The lessened quality could force them to add a second in quantity in a thin allotment of five draft picks.
End result: Smith can step immediately into the starting lineup, though likely at right tackle in Year 1 (as did Gallery) with Khalif Barnes and Mario Henderson competing for left tackle time. That would take pressure off Smith as he picks up Cable’s zone-blocking scheme while filling a gaping hole in the line (because right tackle Cornell Green is just about through). If there are any real concerns over his conditioning and such, Cable is more than happy to work it out of him. For once, Russell and his cannon of an arm could get enough time in the pocket to really launch a deep one.
-David White (SF Chronicle)
April 22nd, 2009 at 6:31 am
Morning Nation, in bright and early today.
I would be pretty happy with just about anyone at #7, other than Maclin or tits Smith. Not all these “top 10″ prospects will pan out, some will be huge busts, and my money would be on Maclin and Smith being the best candidates.
April 22nd, 2009 at 6:45 am
Crabtree says he can run a sub 4.4
Al Davis is a players owner and probably wouldn’t make him prove it …
Mel Kiper Jr. said that the Browns are leaning toward Raji or Orakpo in this draft, assuming Aaron Curry won’t be there. He’s pretty sure they are going defense, even if Braylon Edwards gets traded to the Giants. They will get their WR with the Giants pick #28 overall and maybe another with their high pick in Round 2.
The Browns worked out Kenny Britt on Tuesday. They also had recent visits with North Carolina WR Hakeem Nicks and Georgia WR Mohamed Massaquoi
April 22nd, 2009 at 6:52 am
where are Dirt Lot, LMN & 4eva?
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:09 am
Anyone read the book about Michael Oher? If we draft him I’ll certainly read it, Michael Lewis’ books are usually pretty good. I read Moneyball, and part of Liars Poker.
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:09 am
TRADE WINDS BLOWING
The Raiders are fielding numerous calls from throughout the league about the possibility of their trading out of the No. 7 spot in the NFL Draft on April 25-26.
Raiders coach Tom Cable said earlier this month that he is aware of managing general partner Al Davis’ history of holding on to his first-round picks but that the Raiders had to be open to breaking from tradition if the opportunity presented itself.
One Raiders official said Tuesday that the Raiders haven’t received any suitable offers for the No. 7 pick as of yet. He added that the Raiders also are listening to offers for running back Justin Fargas, quarterback Andrew Walter, cornerback Stanford Routt, safety Michael Huff and defensive end Derrick Burgess.
Burgess has only one year left on his contract, is coming off an injury-plagued season and his production has dropped off the past two seasons. He also didn’t endear himself to Cable and the Raiders by taking so long to return from a triceps injury last season.
-Raider Beat
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:10 am
RRS…
Morning! im here, I have been out buying a new bed, haven’t slept very good lately so I thought it was time for an upgrade!
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:11 am
So Nnamdi doesn’t think that JLH, Shields, or Schillens is that dynamic WR that JRuss needs?
Well that’s surprising, LOL! Maybe the kids won’t get the year to prove they are anything more than we already know they are. It is what it is.
And can we now stop with the Maclin is JLH comparisons?
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:13 am
Running back Justin Fargas and quarterback Andrew Walter might be the property of new teams by the end of the draft proceedings. Neither player has much trade value, but either has the potential to fetch a late-round pick or be packaged to move up in a round to get a particular player the team really wants.
-Raider Beat (posted today)
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:14 am
good morning Vegas, LMN, Jhill …
whats up fellas?
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:16 am
So which is it RRS?
JRuss is dumb?
Has bad footwork?
Has no WRs?
Has residual happy feet and jitters from post harrisatlefttackle-itis?
Is inexperienced?
Had 3 diff offenses in 1 season?
Has zero excuses this year?
Or does he with the new case of hendersonorbarnesatltallseason-itis flowing through HQ?
I dunno?
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:16 am
Nmamdi goes up against those guys in practice, and probably feels based on what he sees that those guys are light years away from what he normally faces on Sundays.
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:19 am
Morning Rockstar, I want to get excited about the trade opportunities, but when I read it was from the Raider beat, I dismiss it immediately.
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:19 am
Incredible day in So Cal RRS.
Back and forth from outside to in as nice as it is.
Top of the morning.
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:21 am
The RB guys got that from Jerry’s chat yesterday, LOL!
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:21 am
Jhill:
Jeremy Maclin had 102 catches for 1260 yards and 13 TD’s last year. He had 80 catches for 1055 yards and 9 TD’s the year before that …
I agree. He’s not Higgins. Just because he has speed and can be utilized as a returner does not mean they are equally as talented as a WR.
Can Higgins run routes and catch balls as well as Maclin? I don’t think so.
Higgins was behind Walker, Carter, Curry and Lelie on the depth chart last year. He was even behind Mike Williams & Tim Dwight on the depth chart as a rookie.
Maclin is a projected Day 1 starter. Higgins was not and is not …
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:22 am
Morning Vegas & Jhill
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:24 am
Vegas & Jhill: you guys are probably right …
Raider Beat is a joke!
was just killing time browsing different sites this morning since the AM crew had not arrived yet
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:24 am
Was Jlh even a no.1 wr at Utep him and maclin are close in size but no where near the same when it comes to being a wr, but I would still address the o-line
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:27 am
Both Maclin and Crabs were much highly regarded coming out of HS than any of our young guys, were much more productive in college, and are higher regarded in the draft. On talent and skills, which the draft and college recruiting is all about, both those guys are well ahead of JLH and Schilens.
I just worry that Maclin relied on speed in college, and speed alone won’t get it done in the league. If we had to pick which guy in the top 10-15 range is going to be the “bust”, which no doubt at least two guys will be, Maclin and one of the QB’s seem like the logical choices.
Morning LMN, enjoy the new “sack”.
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:29 am
Raider beat has some decent food for thought at times, but all there “Scoops” , Porter coming back, Walker being cut, etc., are bogus.
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:33 am
Jhill post #523
I’m not sure what it is with Russell. I just want to give the kid a solid O-Line and WR corps to work with, as well as some continuity in the coaching staff.
Cable, Tollner, Hackett and Garcia is a HUGE improvement over Kiffin, Knapp, Defillipo & Tui!
Knapp was the only guy there with NFL experience and he’s a run oriented guy. He failed to transform Vick into an elite passing QB. He did some good things with Jeff Garcia … I’m guessing it helped Garcia having a mentor like Steve Young too though
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:36 am
vegas raider: I disagree
I think the two biggest BOOM or BUST picks in the Top 10 are Andre Smith & BJ Raji
In Round 1 as a whole I’d say Mark Sanchez and DHB
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:36 am
Vegas…
absolutely, Raider Beat, is nothing but a fan site where they are thinking loud… no, absolutely no news-value..
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:41 am
Rockstar,
See post #514, where I say Maclin and Smith are the biggest bust potential, so we agree on one of them. I don’t see it in Sanchez either, and I am an admitted Pac-10 homer.
I think Raji will be solid, not great but not a “bust”. Time will tell………
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