Will Raiders pass if Curry falls to No. 7?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, April 20th, 2009 at 11:30 am in Oakland Raiders.
Regarded at the time of the NFL combine as perhaps the safest pick in the draft, the financial realities of taking a linebacker with a premium pick could cause Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry to take a tumble.
Curry’s agents, which include Octagon’s Mike Sullivan, have already met with the Detroit Lions, who own the top pick.
Having already invested heavily in linebacker Ernie Sims, the smart money still has Detroit making the big splash and taking quarterback Matthew Stafford.
At No. 2, St. Louis is expected to look for the successor to Orlando Pace by taking either Baylor’s Jason Smith or Virginia’s Eugene Monroe.
That brings us to Kansas City, which has probably been linked with Curry more than any other team. Peter King of Sports Illustrated makes a compelling argument of why that probably won’t happen, taking into account executive Scott Pioli’s mode of operation in New England and applying it to his new team.
Because of the money Matt Ryan got from Atlanta last year as the No. 3 pick in the draft, that puts the Chiefs on the hook for a deal which could pay Curry $11 million per season. That’s not “safe” money. That’s the kind of dough which goes to an instant force, a defensive difference maker.
Curry’s combine measurables, college production (the Dick Butkus Award winner) and character are said to be off the charts.
But when it comes to big bucks, sacks pay off even more, and Curry had just 9.5 sacks in his college career. There are no guarantees Seattle, Cleveland or Cincinnati would snag him, either, bringing up the Raiders at No. 7.
Curry could fit in nicely as a strong side linebacker along with Thomas Howard and Kirk Morrison. Perhaps he’d be that hard edge to turn things back inside, and be better at shedding blocks and making plays against the run.
But the Raiders typically don’t lavish money on linebackers. Getting Howard in the second round in 2006 and Morrison in the third in 2005 meant they came with reasonable contracts. Howard is scheduled to make $550,000 this year, Morrison $545,000 (he hit an escalator which increased his salary to $1.7 million in 2008.
If the Raiders drafted Curry, who had 226 yards in interception returns and three touchdowns in 2007, he wouldn’t be coming off the field with No. 7 money _ leaving Morrison the potential odd man out when a linebacker comes off the field in the nickel.
Even if available, history says it’s unlikely the Raiders would go linebacker at No. 7. The highest pick used on a linebacker since 1994 is Rob Fredrickson, taken in the first round out of Michigan State. In 2002, Napoleon Harris came at No. 23.
Fredrickson had a solid, unsensational career, and Harris, protected by a veteran defense as a rookie, never became a playmaker with the Raiders or in his subsequent stops in Minnesota and Kansas City.
A look at Raiders linebackers taken in the draft since they returned to Oakland in 1995
2006–Thomas Howard, second round, No. 38 overall. Interceptions dropped off last season, but may be the fastest weak side linebacker in the league. Showed flashes as blitzer although not used much in that capacity.
2005–Kirk Morrison, third round, No. 78 overall. Like Howard, production as a pass defender slipped. The team’s most productive tackler, although critics would note those tackles come too far downfield. The middle linebacker of the No. 31 rushing defense in the league _ he has at least some culpability in that stat.
2004–Cody Spencer, sixth round, No. 182 overall. Didn’t make the Raiders, but has played 49 games with the Titans and Jets, primarily as a special teams player. Now property of the Detroit Lions.
2003–Sam Williams, third round, No. 83 overall. Considered a favorite of Davis, Williams is primarily a special teams player who was brought back on another one-year contract. Never seized the job of strong side linebacker as hoped, with injuries playing a role.
2002–Napoleon Harris, first-round, No. 23 overall. An outside player at Northwestern, his speed, size and intelligence never translated into being a playmaker with the Raiders. Shipped to Minnesota in the Randy Moss trade.
1999–Eric Barton, fifth round, No. 146 overall. Had some productive games as a weak side linebacker. Of the Raiders better bargain picks. Left as a free agent to the New York Jets.
1998–Travian Smith, fifth round, No. 152 overall. Similar to Isaiah Ekejiuba in terms of being a physical presence and a wedge buster on special teams, although without the same sort of smarts and leaderships skills.
1995–Mike Morton, fourth-round, No. 118 overall. Had a brief run as a starter when Mike Jones left as a free agent.
Poll: Who should the Raiders draft with their No. 1 pick? Vote here.
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April 20th, 2009 at 11:32 am
If Russell develops at all during this offseason, and if the o-line gives him time, and if our running game gets back on track, then the WRs on our roster will look much much better.
If we put our faith in Kwame Barnes-Harris II and Mario Coaches Don’t want Him Henderson as out tackles we are foooked.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:34 am
No way Curry makes it to #7…but hey, what else do we have to speculate about?
April 20th, 2009 at 11:35 am
We may not like Pear and Barnes, but the fact that they were brought in tells me that we are going in a different direction.
Like Cable said, Henderson ain’t goin nowhere! Well, he may be going to RT, but again, if they wanted Oher, there would be no need to bring in Barnes. And like Chris Johnson last year, if Barnes performs, he will get paid by Al.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:36 am
The reason Curry is a gamble is because you must rush the passer in this league and that was not evident in his college career. Plus it’s not the biggest need for defense.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Smith and Curry are safe picks. But Detroit gambles on …
MATTHEW STAFFORD, QB, Georgia.
* Just for fun, this first round includes seven players from a state that normally doesn’t produce NFL players the way Florida, Texas and California do. (Answer at the bottom). For those who keep score and mock everybody’s mocks, please note that these are for guessing purposes only. One trade or one unexpected pick and everything is thrown off.
2. ST. LOUIS: Orlando Pace was released. JASON SMITH, T, Baylor, is drafted. Easy transition. Or so the Rams hope.
3. KANSAS CITY: This should be simple. AARON CURRY, LB, Wake Forest, is the obvious choice. But he was an outside LB in college, so where does he fit in the 3-4 defense that Scott Pioli and Todd Haley, the new GM and coach, plan to install? Probably inside between newly obtained veterans Mike Vrabel and Zach Thomas. He could drop if the Chiefs go for someone like offensive tackle Eugene Monroe.
4. SEATTLE: Matt Hasselbeck has a bad back. MATT SANCHEZ, QB, Southern Cal, might not be ready yet, but he fits Seattle’s West Coast offense and may have a higher upside than Stafford.
5. CLEVELAND: The Browns are trying to trade Braylon Edwards. MICHAEL CRABTREE, WR, Texas Tech, is insurance, although he’s recovering from a stress fracture in his foot.
6. CINCINNATI: The Bengals used to be able to score. Even with Carson Palmer back, they need help up front. EUGENE MONROE, OT, Virginia.
7. OAKLAND: The draft is now a three-month process, which is why ANDRE SMITH, OT, Alabama, can fall from a top five pick to the bottom of the round, then rise again.
By DAVE GOLDBERG
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you like this one Dakota???
April 20th, 2009 at 11:41 am
2006–Thomas Howard, second round, No. 38 overall. Interceptions dropped off last season, but may be the fastest weak side linebacker in the league. Showed flashes as blitzer although not used much in that capacity.
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Why not use Howard as a blitzer and use his speed to rush the passer. I know how Al hates to blitz but maybe Marshall can use our talent to its fullest.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:41 am
If we draft Maclin over Andre Smith, Michael Oher, Crabtree or even Raji I will kick my freakin’ TV screen in and maybe puch a hole in the wall.
Note to self—use stud finder to find places on wall to avoid punching prior to draft day.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Rockstar…yep, I like that one!!!
April 20th, 2009 at 11:44 am
The Raiders also need a stud finder
April 20th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Getting an anchor on the O-line is the best case scenario if we keep the 7th pick. Other than that trade or trade down.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:47 am
I like Chaz and JLH as well, but let’s not get carried away with two games of production.
Joe Aska started the last two games of ‘96, had over 100 yards in one game, and ended up the season averaging over 5 yards a carry. Why do I remember this, because I thought he was going to be a huge star, and it turned out it was a two game fluke. If we pass on a WR early, it shouldn’t be because of the potential of JLH, Schilens and Shields, but more to the point of having higher needs as a priority.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Mike Brown as NBA coach of the year? lol, whatever. I thought the coach with the “best player” wasn’t allowed to win coach of the year.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:48 am
If we draft Maclin over Andre Smith, Michael Oher, Crabtree or even Raji I will kick my freakin’ TV screen in and maybe punch a hole in the wall.
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what if we draft Maclin over Peria Jerry, Ron Brace, Alex Mack and Eben Britton (17th overall) ?
April 20th, 2009 at 11:50 am
LOL @ Joe Aska.
didn’t he have a glass eye or something?
April 20th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Pass on Mack or Britton for Maclin? I am still breaking stuff…
April 20th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Having great vision is needed to play RB Aska didn’t
April 20th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Joe had only one eye, and still had a 100 yard game!! Pretty amazing, and I bought right in. Shows that anyone could put together a few good games, but not just anyone can put together a career.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Vegas-so true.but wouldn’t you say they both have shown more at the pro level than any WR who might be drafted in the future.they are both young and could develop into top notch pros,just like anyone we draft MIGHT develop into something special.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Dakota,
now eric britton is better than maclin?
April 20th, 2009 at 11:55 am
“When he saw daylight, he was gone,” said Chuck Bailey, then an assistant at UCO, now an associate athletic director there. “You hear that all the time, but nobody could catch him.”
Aska hammered that point home when he posted the fastest 40-yard dash time at the 1995 NFL Combine.
A few months later, the Raiders drafted him in the third round.
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Fast 40 time and the Raiders drafted him? No way, lol.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Advantage of having one eye you only have to look over one shoulder.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Jhill, agree. Barnes is a man on a mission and could very well be our best FA pick in years. hes healthy, young and as much as i like ASmith, he has already proven he can play in the NFL.
if we honestly look at the roster OT and DT are the least positions of “need”, which of course could be a smokescreen, albeit an unlikely one with the cap and all.
that said, we should think exclusively WR/DE, DE/WR with the first two rounds imo.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:56 am
I can’t beleive Joe Aska got picked up by the Colts and then later signed on with the XFL …
dude should have been a 6th or 7th round pick, not a 3rd!
Even Aska could see that. haha
April 20th, 2009 at 11:58 am
JHill,
Not sure I agree with your logic that Khalif Barnes, Eric Pears and Mario Henderson would prevent us from taking an elite LT in the first round. Barnes was barely signed by Al, an good indication of how much the teams thinks of him, Henderson is young and somewhat talented so he isn’t going anywhere, but he is also our only LT prospect at this point. The Raiders are not gonna place the safety of a number one overall pick solely in the hands of a third-round, “reach” project pick, especially with an offensive lineman head coach.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Lefty,
If we don’t draft a WR, or at least bring someone else in, we would be thin at WR, even if JLH and Schilens continue to improve substantially.
I have more hope in JLH, he has proven that he is dangerous in the open-field. It will be interesting to see how Schilens would do with teams having film on him now and preparing for him.
Just like with the OT positions, with bringing in a rookie to go with Mario, Barnes and Pears and let the best man win philosophy. That should be applied to WR as well, with no guarantees to Walker or Schilens.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Blackdeath,
I’d take any of the top 8 or 10 tackles before selecting Maclin. Tackles are so far more important than WRs it isn’t even funny. Especially overhyped college WRs that run bubble screens all day like Maclin.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:59 am
LMN,
3rd to 6th Grade.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Joe Aska really just had one eye? You guys a full of it right? If true, how did our scouts miss that one? lol
April 20th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Vegas,i’m not against a WR,just not at 7 unless it is Crabtree.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Advantage of having one eye you only have to look over one shoulder.
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LOL. we really should stop. I’m starting to feel guilty
Like when my wife makes me watch that show The Amazing Race and they have these little midgets running around on there. There’s also a deaf kid with an anger problem. haha. he’s constantly trying to yell, thus making himself look really silly. it’s a hoot
April 20th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Sorry I missed your posts on the prev thread guys, but I had to take care of a few things quickly.
BD29,
I like your list too. You and me bro, we are on the same page. lol
April 20th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Wow, Aska really was blind in one eye. We drafted a RB with one eye 86th overall? Holy schit Al is truly a dipscheet.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Joe Aska really just had one eye? You guys a full of it right? If true, how did our scouts miss that one? lol
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maybe he wore sunglasses in the interview and a viser in college?
He ran the fastest 40 and looked good coming off the bus. what could Davis possibly NOT liked about this kid? haha
April 20th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Lefty, how are Mary Ann and Ginger doing
April 20th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
troll-you are one sick @$$hole.pretty stupid too.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Don’t forget Miller . Mc Fadden and Bush as receivers in some capacity if they don’t have to stay in and block.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
lefty12 Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Vegas,i’m not against a WR,just not at 7 unless it is Crabtree.
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I say Crabtree, or someone in the second round (Robiskie, Nicks, Inglesias) or later. The point of my arguement over the weeks is that our WR are historically bad and no position is a “luxury” in the NFL, they are all important. We need to get Jamarcus a playmaker, if Crabs is the pick and turns out to be pretty good, and so do JLH and Chaz, well that is a good problem to have. That position would be set for years. If we don’t get Crabs, and JLH and Chaz don’t turn into legit NFL starting receivers, we again will have a historically bad WR corps.
I am not a Maclin fan and that would be about the only thing that would ruin Saturday morning for me.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
# Raider O Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 11:59 am
LMN,
3rd to 6th Grade.
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Raider O, come on man,how old, which grade am I then, when im 31…
April 20th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Lefty,
The reason we couldn’t get off the field on 3rd and long …
Let’s stop right there. With the running game that we have we should hardly ever be in 3rd and long. The main reason for our 3rd and longs were penalties by our OTs. I don’t even mind us giving up 3 or 4 sacks a game with Lechler on the team. What we need to simply shore up are the ridiculous penalties that put us in 3rd and 10 or longer, and JRuss needs to take better care of the rock. The other team is getting paid too, and there are plenty of stud NFL players lining up against us. Our Oline is going to give up some sacks, let’s be realistic. But we can’t have JRuss fumbling the ball when he gets hit. Especially as big as he is. That was supposed to be one of his advantages.
Again, just like the last 6 games or so proved, we have enough weapons on offense to score 21-24 pts a game.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Well, I guess taking a RB with one eye 86th overall is better than taking a QB without a brain 3rd overall like the Titans did with Vince Young.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
if Curry falls and Al doesnt pick him, Al should fire himself…
April 20th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
lefty12 Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
troll-you are one sick @$$hole.pretty stupid too.
Never judge a troll by his cover
April 20th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
I actually have a Joe Aska rookie card …still.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Vegas-we went round and round and ended up at exactly the same place.no Maclin at #7-please.that being said with the 7th pick the Oakland Raiders select-Maclin or Raji.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
# Lynn from Snot Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Why not use Howard as a blitzer and use his speed to rush the passer. I know how Al hates to blitz but maybe Marshall can use our talent to its fullest.
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I totally agree. I think the Raiders have been wasting a tremendous talent. Howard has the potential to be one of the best outside linebackers in the NFL. He needs to get better against the run but is elite in coverage and could be an elite blitzer as well. Hopefully Marshall will do a better job putting him in position to make plays.
As for drafting Curry, I couldn’t complain about that. He’s a tremendous player. Not sure what he would make at No. 7, but if it’s anything close to the $11 million per year paid to the No. 3 it would be a little awkward that Morrison and Howard, veterans and leaders of the defense, are making 20x less than the rookie they’re supposed to bring along.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
I hope that is one thing that Jamarcus really improves this offseason: pocket presence. He was way to careless with the ball at times, and he most reduce those fumbles. He does a decent job of throwing the ball away, but wouldn’t mind seeing him lumber up field a few times and pick up 4 yards (and slide) than just tossing it away all the time.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
“I JUST LIKE HITTIN PEOPLE” – Rey Maualuga
^^The Raiders need those type of players and need to stop worrying about 4.4 40 times.
The ONLY WR they should consider at #7 is Crabtree and no one else.
Maclin is a Y or Z WR at best and not a true X #1.
You don’t pick a WR at #7 overall unless he can be an X #1 WR.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Chad Ocho Cinco is so unhappy in Cincinnati, it’s bringing him to tears.
That’s the message his former teammate, new Seahawks WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh, delivered on the NFL Network Friday night.
“Chad Johnson called me today. Crying,” Houshmandzadeh said. “He wonders why everyone can get traded but him.”
Seeing Jason Peters traded from Buffalo to Philadelphia and the Cardinals’ willingness to deal Anquan Boldin may be making Ocho Cinco (the man formerly known as Chad Johnson) jealous.
The Bengals have not indicated they are willing to move Ocho Cinco thus far.
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lol…poor Ocho Stinko. Al, offer the Bungholes a 3rd and 5th…you never know.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
I always thought Joe Aska was pretty dam good. True about the eye thing. What happened to him?
April 20th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Chris in NY, here is a little story about Aska:
http://newsok.com/prep-football-joe-aska-is-being-a-father-hero-to-his-son/article/3319754
April 20th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
This is an interesting comparison chart from Draft countdown, notice Maclin’s NFL comparison:
Michael Crabtree – Brandon Marshall
Jeremy Maclin – Ted Ginn
Darrius Heyward-Bey – Troy Williamson
Percy Harvin – Reggie Bush
Kenny Britt – Braylon Edwards
Hakeem Nicks – Muhsin Muhammad
Brian Robiskie – Amani Toomer
Mohamed Massaquoi – Reggie Brown
Derrick Williams – Eddie Royal
Juaquin Iglesias – Jerricho Cotchery
Louis Murphy – Andre Caldwell
Mike Thomas – Bobby Wade
Ramses Barden – Plaxico Burress
April 20th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
If KC passes on Curry i think he will be there. Cincy Drafted Rivers last year and Seattle and the Browns are looking at Crabtree or Maclin. He could be had.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Jhill-our off. also improved when we started to fix the line.you know my feelings on DE,but we must also put together a dominate Oline.then we will be able to utilize our running game with more efficiency.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Wow, the Joe Aska analogy has been a hit.
The point is, Schilens may turn out to be pretty good, or he may turn out to be Joe Aska, a two-game wonder. Two games does not give you enough of a reason to pass on a elite level college player.
WR a must in either rounds 1 , 2 or 3. Throw Jammy a bone!!!
April 20th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Chris in NY :
April 20th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Raider O…
I never been to an american school, I have no idea how early or late grade 1 starts… thats why I asked, “How old is that”
April 20th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Chris in NY …… Thats why I don’t like picking anybody that high in “this” draft and we have some talent to work with at line backer.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
I gotta go to a game this year, it has been way too long (3 seasons!!). I’m looking at the schedule and the Philly game seems like a good choice. No Monday night opener, no December games in case we are out of it and no Cincy. Philly or Denver seems like the winners, great weather and early enough to have something to play for still.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Bart,
I’ve also seen Maclin compared to Torry Holt by several people, including Jets WR coach Henry Ellard, who was a dam good player himself back in the 80s/90s. Maclin is an inch or two taller and 20+ pounds heavier than Ginn. That comparison is probably based on the fact that both players returned punts/kicks in college. Besides, Ginn was decent in 2008 and may yet turn into a star WR.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
I find it hard to believe Curry gets past the Browns and Bengals if he’s not gone by that point already.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
I hope Detroit lets the clock run out a few times before selecting lol. Now that would be entertaining.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Imagine if we could get Curry, Mack, and Mitchell…Wow….
Man just got done watching that youtube on Mike Mitchell again. He is a beast. We have not had a hard hitter like that in a long long time.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Dakota, what would that mean?
April 20th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Does this team need a Ted Ginn Jr. or does it need a Muhsin Muhammed, Plaxico Burress, or Amani Toomer. We need a reliable, tough, and smart third-down reciever who can get us those 4 or 5 yards when we need them the most. Not that Maclin won’t be a good player, but he is not a good fit for the needs of this team, because we need a physical reciever.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
1. R.Malauga {lb}
2. R.Brace {dt}
3. C.Vaughn {ss}
4. M.Mitchell {fs/ss}
move Morrison outside…start Gunheim
defence wins championships…
April 20th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
The Browns will take Curry if he falls to them….they need DEFENSIVE help BADLY and a RB more than a WR
April 20th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
BBB-well said.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Alisgod,
I was watching that highlight reel last night, and then after reading the interview that Mitchell gave about his Raiders visit, I am convinced we are picking him in the 4th round (if available). He really gets after running backs, and right at the line of scrimmage at that, would love to see that kid in the S&B
April 20th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
It sounds like they’re in love with Mitchell as reported by PFT.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
I would think the Browns would go offense. Didn’t they fail to score an offensive TD after Turkey Day, or something crazy like that?
April 20th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
LMN,
That would mean the Rams would be able to make a selection before the Lions…and once the Rams make a pick, then KC could pick before the Lions and so on and so forth. They could then take a player at say, number 4, and claim they don’t have to pay the guy #1 money. Although, I’d bet the player’s agent would think otherwise.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
We start 1st grade around 6 yrs old. We are talking about 8yrs old to 11yrs old. Too young IMO. What do you think?
April 20th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
the Browns are trying to deal Edwards and if they do then who do they have? Winslow is gone.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
LMN,
We start 1st grade around 6 yrs old. We are talking about 8yrs old to 11yrs old. Too young IMO. What do you think?
April 20th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
The Brown are picking Crabtree…no doubt about it.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
# Raider O Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
LMN,
We start 1st grade around 6 yrs old. We are talking about 8yrs old to 11yrs old. Too young IMO. What do you think?
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I totally agree then! I think its okay, and should be mandatory for 13-14 year olds…
April 20th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Raider O..
13-14 year olds… is that high school?
April 20th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Det-Stafford
Rams-J. Smith
KC-Curry
Sea-Monroe
Clev-Crabtree
Cin-Orakpo or Raji
Oak-A. Smith
April 20th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Draft McFadden!!
April 20th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Draft McSmith!!!!
April 20th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
It seems like either Seattle or Cleveland will pounce on Crabtree, and I am very afraid that Cincy will snag Andre Smith. I would bet good money that our pick will be between Raji, Michael Oher, Jeremy Maclin and Brian Orakpo. Best option might be a trade-down, but if Cable really thinks Oher is a Caddy that could thrive in our system, that would trump everything else in my mind. After the 2007 season, when there was speculation that Oher was coming out, he was my first choice, then at the end of 2008 before we knew the draft order, I hoped that we would pick early enough to grab Oher. Now after all these months of speculation and second guessing, Oher has somehow slid behind Monroe and the Smiths in the LT rankings. But he has the skills and pedigree to be the best left tackle in this draft class.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Don’t be surprised if KC goes OT again this year.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Bart, I remember watching Huff’s Texas hilite reel and told myself this guy doesnt blow people up. I thought may be I didnt watch his games enough. Well, in the nfl, he hasnt blown anyone up yet that I could remember.
Mitchell on the other hand is all about blowing up people. Peeps go backward when he runs into them. I know it is a hilite reel but his hilite reel is much more exciting than Huff’s college hilite reel. The thing is can he cover?
April 20th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
BBB – yeah, I saw a few Mocks in early 2009 w/ Oher going #1 overall.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
In the Jets replay this weekend, got to see Huff drop that int that literally fell into his lap. Couldn’t even make the easiest of plays when presented to him. It was interesting to see Wilson’s reaction after the play, I thought he might punch Huff.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
We do not need to waste our first pick on Curry. There will be plenty of quality linebackers in the later rounds, I like Dannell Ellerbe from Georgia and Frantz Joseph from FAU. The guy from South Florida is a stud also. Go either D Line or O Line with the first pick.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
You guys think KC has given up on Brandon Alberts at LT? They certainly need a RT. I can see them taking a tackle, but not a WR (right jhill?).
If KC takes a T. then here we go:
Det-Stafford
Rams- J. Smith
KC-Monroe
Sea-Sanchez
Clev-Curry
Cin-Crabtree
Oak-A Smith
April 20th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Mike Preston of the Baltimore Sun suggests that tight end Todd Heap and running back Willis McGahee could be shipped to Arizona along with a draft pick in exchange for Boldin.
Interesting…
April 20th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Alisgod,
Very true. Highlight reels never tell the whole story, but they at least show you what they are capable of under the best conditions. Mitchell is just a natural born hitter, whether he can translate that into the NFL, we are not sure, but the Raiders sure seem to think so. He made some nice int’s in that highlight reel, but you never see him covering guys one-on-one. But with that speed and the skills of our CB’s, he could just lay back in a mid zone and wait to pounce, let Huff cover the TE’s.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Illinois cornerback Vontae Davis did not test positive for marijuana
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here’s our 2nd round pick. lock it up, right after Maclin
April 20th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Would Arizona take Stewart and Justin Fargas for Boldin? lol
April 20th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Does this team need a Ted Ginn Jr. or does it need a Muhsin Muhammed, Plaxico Burress, or Amani Toomer. We need a reliable, tough, and smart third-down reciever who can get us those 4 or 5 yards when we need them the most. Not that Maclin won’t be a good player, but he is not a good fit for the needs of this team, because we need a physical reciever.
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His name is Z. Miller. You get him a all around back up/#2 TE, and he lead this team in yards and rec.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Would Arizona take Stewart and Justin Fargas for Boldin?
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Would the Bills take Javon Walker and Derrick Gray for Roscoe Parrish and Chris Kelsay?
April 20th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
LMN,
That’s middle school, or as we call it JR High.
Then you have high school.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Dakota Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Would Arizona take Stewart and Justin Fargas for Boldin? lol
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I don’t think they would go for that. It would be great for us though. If we threw in a 4th or a third next year then yeah they just might.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Fargas, and Burgy need to net us some early mid round picks.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Raccoon,
Teams focus on Miller on 3rd downs, he needs a partner in crime to spread the attention of the defense. Miller will only become better if there is another player on our roster capable of making big catches over the middle.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Raider O Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
LMN,
That’s middle school, or as we call it JR High.
Then you have high school.
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We had sex ed our freshman year in Hot Springs…I still knocked up a girl my senior year…guess I should have paid more attention in class, lol.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
I would take Mitchell over Huff at this point in a heartbeat. As for that trade of McGayshee and Heap for Boldin, AZ would be getting worked over. Two washed up players for Boldin? jeez
April 20th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Watch the sorry Browns screw up the draft for us.
Crabtree at 7 man. If not, trade down outside of Curry the rest are bums for our need the first round!!!
Andre the giant Smith has a pair of boobs man. That is just nasty!!! If he would have kept on his sports bra and T-Shirt I may be a little more pumped up right now.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Heap is washed up?
April 20th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
BART Bridge Blues ,
22 of 55(102 total) first down rec came on 3rd down for jeramy maclin.the kid is a better wr than being giving credit for.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
nader64: AZ would also be getting a 1st or 2nd rounder from Baltimore in the trade … not just Heap & McGahee
April 20th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Would the Browns consider Maclin if the Chiefs take Crabtree?
They need a WR. They don’t need an OT …
April 20th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
I still don’t get why the Hawks would waste big money on Sanchez with the #4 pick and then to have him sit for two years….especially since they need a RB, LB OL help more than a QB.
It would be stupid if the Seahawks picked Sanchez….but that is their problem.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Raccoon,
Teams focus on Miller on 3rd downs, he needs a partner in crime to spread the attention of the defense. Miller will only become better if there is another player on our roster capable of making big catches over the middle.
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Yep that is true, Miller would be even better if we had that guy. I would love it if we did, but if we can’t/don’t get Crab then we need to look at TE for a allaround player.
Two TE set’s are coming.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Vegas,
I watched that Jets game yesterday, also. I was also very dissapointed in the Washington 13 yard TD run that had Wilson take a very bad angle, and Howard and Scott get run over.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Aska was very quick indeed, he just didn’t have an “eye” for the game.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
I am just wondering if the Raiders would actually consider Maclin at 7.
Looking back at his film the guy does have speed man I will give him that but how that transfers over to the NFL could be tricky. I am just not sure if this guy can scrap for the ball. You have to scrap for the ball in the NFL.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Would the Browns consider Maclin if the Chiefs take Crabtree?
They need a WR. They don’t need an OT …
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Heck no….the Browns need a RB more than WR. They would take Curry or Orakpo ahead of Maclin any day of teh week unless they are stupid.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
NO to Maclin at #7!!
April 20th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Raccoon,
Way ahead of you on that one. If you read my posts from the last thread, I am convinced that TE is one of our 4 positions of need, rather than WR. Two tight end sets = one less WR on the field. Other than Miller, there are no bonafide starting TE’s on the roster (Stewart is mostly a STer.) The fact that the Raiders got a private visit from Jared Cook, only solidifies it for me.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Bart, if you compare Mitchell vs Vaugh, you can see that Mitchell anticipates and gets excellent angle of attack. He is usually fullspeed when he hits people. Prob due to his acceleration.
Vaugh on the other hand is not as physical. he waits for the runner rather than hit them. I’d rather have Mitchell. We have not had a sure tackler in a long time. Wilson was above avg last year but I miss the old days of Eddie Anderson.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
If Andre Smith’s there were taking him. If not Raji
April 20th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
The reason I like Crabs a lot more than Maclin, is that Crabs didn’t rely on speed in college, while Maclin mostly did.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Ryan,
How sad was the run D in that game? Awful, all game long.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
What’s gonna happen:
1. Smith or Raji if Smiths gone
2. DHB or best WR avail if DHB’s gone
3. Best Safety avail
April 20th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Damn I luv the draft
April 20th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
the Browns need a RB more than WR. They would take Curry or Orakpo ahead of Maclin any day of teh week unless they are stupid.
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The Browns have Jamal Lewis at RB and they’ll have NOBODY at WR if they trade Braylon Edwards away
Maclin is the 2nd best WR in the draft and he won’t be there when the Brownies pick in Round 2
April 20th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
fixing the line so Miller can get more passes than stay in and block would help a lot.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Ah, thanks. RR. A first/third makes it a little more sensible. Still not sold that either of those guys has much left. Dakota, Heap wasn’t the Heap of old even when he was healthy last year, as I remember it. He’s been banged up frequently, getting old and I’d be surprised if he returned to form.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Alisgod,
The first time I watched that Mitchell highlight, I just had a gut reaction to the hits he was making on the HB’s and WR’s. He anticipates where they are going to be, and seems to unload at full speed right on the button.
At first my concern was that Mitchell is playing against lesser competition than Vaughn and others, but when I saw him destroying Ohio State players on the film, it put those concerns to rest.
The guy just knows how to hit people in the game of football, you can’t coach that.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Just watched the Mike Mitchell highlights. That film must have been doctored. Talk about a SLEDGEHAMMER. That guy is an absolute beast. Great instincts too. Hopefully the Raiders reel him in. I got a concussion from watching that tape. Here’s the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8KF2-_OXoA
April 20th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
the Browns need a RB more than WR. They would take Curry or Orakpo ahead of Maclin any day of teh week unless they are stupid.
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The Browns have Jamal Lewis at RB and they’ll have NOBODY at WR if they trade Braylon Edwards away
Maclin is the 2nd best WR in the draft and he won’t be there when the Brownies pick in Round 2
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IF the Browns trade Braylon, then they can possibly take Crabtree at 5, but if they trade a proven WR in Braylon for say the G-Mens 1st rounder, then picking an unproven rookie at 5 instead of keeping there proven pro bowl WR is kinda stupid…..but thats the Browns for ya….
April 20th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
I think the Browns definitely take Curry if he’s there and possibly Orakpo or Raji before Crabtree, even if they trade Braylon.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Mitchell would cause turnovers and put fear into the ballcarriers. He may miss some tackles but it would be worth it IMO. Can’t be worse than Huff’s been.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Mitchell and Rey would bring some much needed toughness back
April 20th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Wow, Mitchell looks like he is everything that Michael Huff isn’t…a playmaker, run stopper and big hitter…however it sounds like the Bungholes, Browns, Bears and Packers all have their eyes on this guy.
Could we get this guy in the 5th round? Al might not want to chance it so he might take him in the second round, lol.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
I would love to see him change an AFC West RB’s (or two) career like Atwater did w/ Okoye.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
How would you like to run in that box..hahaha i said box
April 20th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Mitchell should still be around in the 4th, as he was considered an UDFA until about two weeks ago. The analysts might call it a reach, but I would be stoked if Al snags this guy with our 4th-round pick.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Happy 420 people. lol
April 20th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
its 5 o’clock somewhere or 420
April 20th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
MOCK DRAFT:
Start with a trade down to the Redskins or some other team picking in the teens for a 1st & 3rd and maybe a pick next year:
1) Rey Maualuga, MLB, USC
2) Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma
3) Paul Kruger, DE, Utah
3) Mike Mitchell, SS, Ohio
4) Anthony Smith, TE, NC State
7) Tiquan Underwood, WR, Rutgers
April 20th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Ah man, I think the clock is slow….
…I don’t feel tardy….
April 20th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Im hotttt for teacher…..
April 20th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Wasn’t Darnell Bing another physically imposing guy with a highlight reel full of big hits drafted in the 4th round? I’m just saying.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
DKnight007: what if the Browns traded Edwards to NYG for a 1st & 3rd … then KC selects Crabtree
then what would they do? draft Maclin?
April 20th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Draft Maualuga and Mitchell and teams will fear the Raiders D for the first time in years.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
chirs i like that draft alot
April 20th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Vegas,
I think Bing was slow though, kind of a SS/LB tweener. Mitchell ran a 4.4. Safeties don’t come faster than that.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Chris,
True, but than why is he a 4th rounder? I don’t know anything about the guy, but he can’t be the hardest-hitting safety, running a 4.4 with perfect size, and be a fourth-rounder. Does he kills dogs or something, what gives?
April 20th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
one thing you can’t teach is mean… and we need more of it… i will hate to go against rey twice a year for 10 or more years if he goes to the dolts
April 20th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Bing was just another overhyped USC guy…like Rey Malawhiffaluga.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Malawhiffaluga…….yuk yuk yuk
April 20th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
i hope he dosen’t whiff dmac to ir
April 20th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Per a post from 504 Raider last night, he actually runs a 4.32:
** Mitchell was not invited to the NFL combine, but the 6-0, 221-pounder got attention by running a 4.32-second 40 at his pro day workout with 21 bench reps and a 37 1/2 broad jump.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
# vegas raider Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Chris,
True, but than why is he a 4th rounder? I don’t know anything about the guy, but he can’t be the hardest-hitting safety, running a 4.4 with perfect size, and be a fourth-rounder. Does he kills dogs or something, what gives?
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I hear you. It’s puzzling. I keep reading that a lot of teams are interested in the guy though. I’m sure he must have some flaws, but definitely looks like a player to me. Maybe because he’s from a lesser football school and safeties aren’t a huge priority high in the draft — probably none will be picked in the 1st round this year.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Whatever is this guys flaws, they can’t be any more glaring than Huff’s.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Rey Malalala isn’t an every down player according to Jerry Mac …
April 20th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Mitchell or Vaughn would help satisfy the safety issues on D. And yes him and Rey on a D together brings nasty back to Oaklnd. Time to bully people again.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Draft week and Bob still wants Andre at 7,..but theres no chance,..if Crabtree is on board at 7 hes the pick,..Maclin not on Als radar,…real shot at Raji Im told.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Rey Malalala isn’t an every down player according to Jerry Mac …
Jerry doesnt know shyt! He is from the other side of the bay and love the 49ers. According to Jerry we were gonna pick Gholston lol.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Yo brien happy 4/20.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Bob its a huge mistake trading down with the Jets. Economically is makes more sense and you gain more picks enhancing the chances of finding those rare type of talents to make you title contending team again.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Happy 420 Brien!!
April 20th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Watched the Jets replay again. Saw the same stuff that made me sick all last season. Runners getting into the second level where our linebackers and safeties froze in their tracks, got juked and missed tackles. In way too many cases there were open gaps at LOS that should have been filled if not outright attacked. Then I wathced the Mike Mitchell highlights. Saw a safety who reads and attacks extremely well (violently), yet doesn’t get caught out of position. Quick hips and the speed to use what appears to be great instincts to get to the ball in passing situations. I am not saying our linebackers and safeties are naturally horrible…..just that they seem to have been coached to play with “fear of getting beaten” instead of with aggression. Same way DeAngelo Hall plays. I hate it. I certainly hope we find that possession WR we need…..but still think the team must be stacked to stop the run first…at or behind the LOS, inside and out.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Dammit the A`s Yankee game rained out.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Yeah Bob I thought my high ass should come in here nd bless the blog with my infinite supreme facts.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Dammit the A`s Yankee game rained out.
Good at least we dont lose lol
April 20th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Are we trading with the Jets?
April 20th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
# vegas raider Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Happy 420 Brien!!
Yes VR. It has been one most superb holiday for yours truly thus far. Its only 2:30. Outta be exciting
April 20th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Bob trading with the Jets makes the most sense. Hell the Skins for that matter. We need players along the trenches not just one.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
The only person really making any plays against the run in the Jets game was Gibril, and now he is gone. Without him, T Jones might have had over 200 yards. Terdell Sands played throughout almost five quarters and numerous running plays, faced a single team almost all game, and made ZERO tackles, assisted and all.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
# SinceFrankYouellField Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Watched the Jets replay again. Saw the same stuff that made me sick all last season. Runners getting into the second level where our linebackers and safeties froze in their tracks, got juked and missed tackles. In way too many cases there were open gaps at LOS that should have been filled if not outright attacked. Then I wathced the Mike Mitchell highlights. Saw a safety who reads and attacks extremely well (violently), yet doesn’t get caught out of position. Quick hips and the speed to use what appears to be great instincts to get to the ball in passing situations. I am not saying our linebackers and safeties are naturally horrible…..just that they seem to have been coached to play with “fear of getting beaten” instead of with aggression. Same way DeAngelo Hall plays. I hate it. I certainly hope we find that possession WR we need…..but still think the team must be stacked to stop the run first…at or behind the LOS, inside and out.
All what you are saying is very true. Tyvon Branch/Mike Mitchell and Howard/Rey/Kirk would be at making plays in the run and pass. CB we already got down. The d-line needs much work tho. No RDE or NT will kill ya everytime.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Brien,
Gotta wait a few hours more myself. Wife’s at home making a homemade peanut butter-caramel pie for her favorite stoned husband!!
April 20th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Never saw the kid play but his instincts are obvious. He plays a mean deep middle. Anticipates and isn’t afraid to make mistake. He just wants to make plays. I see him as a FS because it would allow him to make more plays. Not that SS would take anything away from his talent but made some nice picks.
Great Hi-light reel, no question this kid can play. And it’sobvious he loves to play. No he wont last past mid 2nd rnd. Too much ability and the makeup speed is ridiculous.
Mike Mitchell should be our pick in the 2nd rnd……….period. Love what I saw.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Unless of course she eats it all before I get home. badoosh!!!
Figured one of you might hit me with that, so I beat you to the punch.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
No, we should not take Curry. If he’s available we should take Andre Smith – if not, we take Michael Oher.
Curry is a fine prospect but, No7 for a SLB is no value. Oher will start for a decade at OT for us.
I think the top 10 will be:
1. Lions: Stafford
2. Rams: J Smith
3. Chiefs: Monroe
4. Seahawks: Sanchez
5. Browns: Crabtree
6. Bengals: A Smith
7. Raiders: Oher
8. Jags: Maclin
9. Packers: Raji
10. Whiners: Maybin
April 20th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
# vegas raider Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
The only person really making any plays against the run in the Jets game was Gibril, and now he is gone. Without him, T Jones might have had over 200 yards. Terdell Sands played throughout almost five quarters and numerous running plays, faced a single team almost all game, and made ZERO tackles, assisted and all.
Sands is awful. Warren aint that much better either. Not drafting a real NT is a mistake.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
And Curry goes to the Donkeys at No12.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
What are u waiting a few more hours for?
Are you suppossed to wait until 4:20 on 4/20?
April 20th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
# Scottish Raider Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
No, we should not take Curry. If he’s available we should take Andre Smith – if not, we take Michael Oher.
Curry is a fine prospect but, No7 for a SLB is no value. Oher will start for a decade at OT for us.
I think the top 10 will be:
1. Lions: Stafford
2. Rams: J Smith
3. Chiefs: Monroe
4. Seahawks: Sanchez
5. Browns: Crabtree
6. Bengals: A Smith
7. Raiders: Oher
8. Jags: Maclin
9. Packers: Raji
10. Whiners: Maybin
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I dont know. Mario is a guy I called to play and so far he hasnt disappointed IMO. But we do only have one worthy tackle. The other guys sucks, lets be serious. Getting another OT prolly wont be that bad for us. But Cable did say he can make a starter out of a guy who isnt a first rounder
April 20th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
So what are we going to do with Huff or Branch if we pick up Mitchell?
Does that relegate Branch to ST gunner?
Hiram Eugene goes back to the bench?
April 20th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
MEAN Linemen!
April 20th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
jhill Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
What are u waiting a few more hours for?
Are you suppossed to wait until 4:20 on 4/20?
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I gotta wait for the boss to leave so I can go home. Can’t burn and work, that’s when something important comes up or a client just shows up.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
# jhill Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
What are u waiting a few more hours for?
Are you suppossed to wait until 4:20 on 4/20?
Sessions have been on and off since the A.M. my friend. Soon another few rounds are about to pop off. B-legitters being passed around. You smoke B-Luhz right?
April 20th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Brien,
Cable also gave his stamp of approval to Kwame Harris and persisted in playing him when everyone on the planet knew Henderson was better…Cable’s talent evaluation is questionable at best.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
whoa. Jets just traded Gholston and the 17th overall to the Raiders in exchange for Michael Huff and the 7th overall … sweet!
April 20th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
jhill Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
So what are we going to do with Huff or Branch if we pick up Mitchell?
Does that relegate Branch to ST gunner?
Hiram Eugene goes back to the bench?
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Who cares?
April 20th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Good one Rockstar.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
For those that think getting a LBer that high is not a good value. Guess again, a player with Curry’s talent is a great value at 7 no matter what the blogger says.
Are you serious? you wouldn’t take Lawrence Taylor, Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher at 7? You’d be a damn fool. You take great players whereever you can get them EVERYTIME!
April 20th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
I’m against OT at 7 for the same reason I am against WR at 7, even if Crabtree and Andre Smith are there.
Barnes and Henderson are a huge upgrade over Harris and Green as an OT pair. I want to see what we have in that pair just like I want to see what Walker/JLH/SChillens/Shields can do before we bring in Crabtree or Maclin.
There is no one I want to see at DE other than Scott and Gunhiem and I have them both as LDE, just like the Jets game. We need a RDE in the worst way. I’d take Orakpo, Brown, Michael Johnson at 7. I don’t care about the reach factor. I want a double digit sack guy at that LDE that won’t be a be-atch against the run.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Michael Oher will be a great player in this league – and great OTs make a bigger contribution than great SLBs.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Jhill: Huff, Eugene & Branch have done nothing to keep us from drafting Mitchell or any other safety in this draft … If “the lights come on” and one or two of these guys step up their game it’ll be a good problem to have. Then we might not have to see John Bowie or Jason Horton when we line up in the dime
April 20th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Hiram Eugene is a back-up safety, if the Raiders can get him back on the bench where he belongs, they will be a better team for it.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Mitchell may be projected later because he played in the MAC. Vicious hitter, though, and fast.
Chip Vaughn is described by one scouting service as a “facemask-bending hitter”. Not as fast as Mitchell, but in the 4.5 range so defintitely not slow.
Would be nice to have one of those two guys, if the rest of their game is solid. I like Rashad Johnson from Alabama, too. Not as physical as the other guys, but smart and a playmaker. We will hopefully have choices at the safety position, which is a nice thing to have.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Jhill,
We could get Johnson late in the second round or early third round…dude dropped like a rock.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
jhill ,
look people really need start asking them selfs who are better football players at their position.are their 4 ot`s better than crabtree or maclin.people act like ot in the first can not be bust.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
I don’t know how you figure these guys are dropping.
Ayers, Maulauga, Johnson, DHB, Laurinits …
LOL!
They will all be 1st round picks.
And Brinkley and Mitchell will not last until the 3rd. Like someone said earlier, why would studs like Mitchell (if he truly were a stud) last until the 4th round?
April 20th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
His playing in the MAC means nothing. He has to have some baggage or something on him. To say that the scouts didn’t know about this kid 2 years ago is folly. There are more scouts than roaches.
There is spomething there what I don’t know but for this kid not to be at the combine is a red flag of sorts. At any rate the Raiders are doing their due diligence. So we’ll see.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
# jhill Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
So what are we going to do with Huff or Branch if we pick up Mitchell?
Does that relegate Branch to ST gunner?
Hiram Eugene goes back to the bench?
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Branch and Mitchell might as well start. Huff is a punk and Eugene sia backup
April 20th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
You guys crack me up the way you dismiss players that you don’t like.
Hiram Eugene is a backup, why? Because Huff sucks and he beat him out? LOL! LMFAO! Didn’t they just give dude a cool million to come back?
Tyvon Branch? Just going to the bench to make room for another 4th rd pick, huh?
And the much criticized Huff. Played as much at CB and S as he has before. I laugh at the earlier comment about Wilson looking at Huff crazy for dropping that pick in OT against the Jets. I wonder if Huff wanted to slap Wilson when he dropped that pick against KC that COST US THE GAME!
Hilarious!
April 20th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
priest… there has to be something else. We’ve only seen his highlight reel, so maybe it’s his overall game. Maybe it’s off the field, who knows.
Like you say though, due diligence has been done by now and we’ll know sooner or later.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Here’s a thought!
How about we get some vicious hitting LINEBACKERS?
Is it really that important to have a safety who is going to get flagged or suspended for making the big hits that you guys are asking for?
This is not the 70’s anymore. Not more taking out defenseless WRs. Haven’t you guys seen the rule changes this offseason? LOL!
April 20th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
see you guys tomorrow!
April 20th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Do you guys really believe that these scouts are perfect and evaluate all of these players correctly. Tom “Freaking Tuck Rule” Brady was a 6th rounder. Teams choose based on need, geography, familiarity with systems, measurables, schools, etc. You are wondering why a guy like Mitchell will fall till the 4th round? Because there are at least a half dozen guys with better pedigrees in front of him, and only a few teams need a safety that bad. It happens
April 20th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Raccoon,
Way ahead of you on that one. If you read my posts from the last thread, I am convinced that TE is one of our 4 positions of need, rather than WR. Two tight end sets = one less WR on the field. Other than Miller, there are no bonafide starting TE’s on the roster (Stewart is mostly a STer.) The fact that the Raiders got a private visit from Jared Cook, only solidifies it for me.
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Agreed.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Raccoon,
Well I am glad at least one person agrees with me about the need for another TE, considering the two-tight end sets. So far this off-season, the Raiders have taken a closer look at as many TE’s as they have WR’s. Our biggest problems on offense are lack of protection for Russell and lack of targets for Russell to throw to. Only one position solves both of those problems.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Jhill is going crazy…probably still thinks KC will draft Crabtree at #3 and that Kobe doesn’t play SF on occasion.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
April 20th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
This draft is chaotic. Theres almost too much talent to pick from.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
BBB… a guy that runs a 4.3 and hits like that is not going to slip under the radar. Brady coming out of college is a good example of a guy that will, and Brian Urlacher is another. Neither had the measurables, but surprised everyone (including the teams that drafted them).
Something is up, or he would have at least been at the combine.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
JHill,
I agree with your take on the young players on the roster…JLH/Schilens,Scott,Henderson,Branch….I would also throw Bush in there too as he should get more carries.
The later draft picks from the 3rd on are developmental players. Guys that will take anywhere from 1 to 3 yrs to develop into starters. It so happens that several of our later round picks are developing into competent starters. You don’t throw those players away until you can see them with significant time on the field.
The young guys showed ability in limited time. It would be a shame to not give these guys an opportunity.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Relax Dakota,
I posted yesterday during the game that I saw Sasha and Kobe play the last 2 minutes of the first qtr together. Figured you would have logged on to tell me about it then, so I already had it there for you.
2 minutes in the 1st qtr, LOL! You’re funny!
And I see you have even moved off your Curry to KC pridiction and admit that it could be OT. And Albert was a G in college so would it really be giving up on him? Sounded like a RT to me all along never having played the position in college.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Jhill,
Glad to see you can admit when you are wrong.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
“Being a middle linebacker you just can’t have enough defensive lineman. Those guys keep other guys off of me, so I’m a big fan of getting more defensive lineman in here.” Barrett Ruud Tampa Bay MLB on this Saturday’s draft.
Raider linebackers have played at a huge disadvantage over the past few years and I would say DE is far and away our biggest position need. However if Curry slid to 7 he could be our best bet and we go with a DE in round two.
We desperately need a DE with one of our first two picks.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
I still think Curry is going to KC, but if not then it will be a tackle…but certainly not Crabtree like you believe.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Mike Preston of the Baltimore Sun suggests that tight end Todd Heap and running back Willis McGahee could be shipped to Arizona along with a draft pick in exchange for Boldin.
As Preston points out, both players are in coach John Harbaugh’s doghouse. And that unlikely playoff appearance and postseason run in his first year on the job has given Harbaugh considerable juice.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
jHill, why NOT draft monster OLT, move Mario to ORT, free’s up ZM to do what he does best? You can’t catch a ball blocking on the line?
April 20th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
4:20 at 4/20. I can’t wait for the draft.
I started my celebration this morning, and I’m still at it. lol
It’s only 3:20, but it’s been 4:20 for nesibce this morning.
Happy 420,LMN, 408, 4eva, JHill, Norco, Brien, Saint McGiver ( lol), and others.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Why does something have to be up? The guy plays for the University of Ohio, nobody had really heard of him until he ran a 4.3 whatever at his pro-day, now he is flying up the draft boards. I am sure some scouts knew who he was all along, but kept their mouths shut, so he has slipped through the cracks of NFL hype. But he is on the radar now, and he might get taken in the 2nd, but he might also fall to us in the 4th because some teams won’t have enough info on him. Simple as that.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Hey…if this guy slips because of this and somehow ends up in the 2nd or 3rd round which I doubt…maybe we draft him and release Fargas? haha
BEANIE HAS A BAD BONE?
Posted by Mike Florio on April 20, 2009, 2:36 p.m.
In a rapid-fire list of tidbits contained in his latest Monday Morning Quarterback column, Peter King of SI.com mentions that some teams are “scared off” by a “sesmoid bone” problem in one of running back Beanie Wells’ feet.
Also known as “sesamoid” bones, the term generally refers to a bone over which a tendon passes.
In the foot, the sesmoid/sesamoid bones are in the forefoot, at the spot where weight is placed early in the process of stepping off.
If Wells truly has a problem with the area in his foot where he begins the process of exploding forward, it could be a major impediment to his ability to be as successful as he possibly can be at the NFL level.
Then again, it’s five days before the draft, and so it’s hard to put much stock in anything that anyone is saying about any of the prospects.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
For me since, sorry.
I guess you all know why I can’t type now. lol
April 20th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Todd
If Curry does not fall to 7, we will probably draft an OT in round one then go DE and DT to finish day one.
A stronger Oline helps our run defense by default.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Raider O – You can’t drink alcohol but you can smoke weed? Funny.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
I forgot about you BBB, happy 420 bro.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
If he is what we think he is (thanks again Denny G.), then I say “reach” for him in the 2nd and draft OL (including TE) and DL the rest of the way. In this case, I’ll say Al has balls and an eye for talent instead of an obsession w/ measurables and being different for the sake of his ego(as the f*&%ing media always put it).
April 20th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
So this Mitchell guy doesn’t do much on the field to warrant scouts looking at him, but than he goes and lights it up on the measurables and forty time, and everybody is excited to draft him, as high as round 2 some say.
Isn’t that the exact thing that Al Davis does all the time that gets us all pissed off??
April 20th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
BBB… I hope you’re right. If his overall game is solid, we could use a 4.3 safety that hits like a truck.
I’ll just be glad when Saturday gets here.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
I think I just watched 10 reruns of Mitchel and Vaugh today. I think Vaughn is ok. I think Jenkins and Mitchell have great instincts. I dont like how Vaugh waits for the runner and then tackle. God knows how many times the Raiders have done that and wiffed. Mitchell just anticipates and blows them up. I know these are hilites but if you aint going to look good on hilites then when will you look good.
Case in point, look at Huff tube from Texas days and there aint any big hits just lots of wraps. That showed in the nfl. He plays in th nfl exactly the way he looks in the texas youtbube.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
24,
Right!!! lol
Since I can’t drink, I smoke.
Gotta do something. lol
April 20th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
What pisses me off is when Al drafts one-eyed RBs in the third round.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I agree, and a bulldog NT is a serious need for us at this time, which would allow for brusing DT to do his work.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Gauranteed Al is taking him in Round 2…why….because he has 4.34 speed….however unlike Routt, Mitchell seems to be a football player with track speed!!!
April 20th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Wish list
LDE- M Johnson
DT- T Kelly
NT- B.J.Raji
RDE- Burgess
April 20th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Alisgod, I agree completely w/ you on Huff and Vaughn. Vaughn still has more lumber in the sack than Huff. But I haven’t seen a safety w/ anywhere near as many “blow-ups” on his highlights as Mitchell. The closest guy I’ve seen highlights of would be Chung.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
24,
I don’t think smoking is allowed in !slam, but a lot of musl!ms do.
It’s due to the Culture I think.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Raider O – What is the reason that you cannot drink in your religion?
April 20th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Raider O – I believe the k0ran speaks against any form of intoxication.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Mitchell looked like a man amongst boys on that video…looks like he uses correct lines of pursuit and then takes people out…but it is a highlight video and I certainly wouldn’t draft him in round 2. If they guy is there in round 4, fine, but not round 2 for the 14th rated S according to some analysts.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Everyone is leaving Kenny Britt out of it, But for some reason, a 6′4″ WR could really help us in the red zone, at a good price for the package, he has good numbers in college..
April 20th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Well, I voted for Crabtree. Ht Wt speed notwithstanding, that dude scores a lot of Touchdowns, and that’s the name of the game.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Nader,
Yes it does sir. I stopped drinking last Sept, and I’m working on the weed.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
I am sure Mitchell has plenty of flaws in his game but hitting ability, recovery speed and instincts are not one of them. We have plenty of cover safeties, so it is a calculated risk for the Raiders to get a super-fast, sledgehammer safety in the 4th round. Other teams might hesitate getting a one-dimensional safety that high, but clearly the Raiders are very high on him.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Todd
WR is a day two opportunity.
We have way too many line issues to fool with a WR day one pick.
We are a run first team with a developing QB.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
It’s hard to stop both at the same time ( for Me ), I did both for more than 10 yrs.
I’m working on it.
When the K0ran banned alcohol, it did it in stages.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
BBB – but it looks like he uses those instincts to make plays on balls in the air too. Fair enough that the guys is a low-rated S prospect by scouts, but I wonder where Nnamdi was rated as a DB when we grabbed him in Rd. 1.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
I still think Curry is going to KC, but if not then it will be a tackle…but certainly not Crabtree like you believe.
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There you go. I said that Crabtree was more of an option for KC than Curry was, IMO, and even tried to tweak your bet to simply say that KC wouldn’t draft a LB at 3. You have me locked into Crabtree when I keep telling you that it is more about them not drafting an OLB now that they have Vrable and Johnson. Not to mention they just signed Zack Thomas and also have Hali. They are not playing #3 money to a LB and neither is Seattle.
I actually have falling to 8 in my lastest mock.
Det – Stafford – Culpepper? Let’s get real.
Rams – Andre Smith – The Rams wise up and take the best OT in the draft.
KC – Eugene Monroe – Monroe at LT, Alberts at RT. KC has bookends for the next 10 years.
Sea – Mark Sanchez – Perfect place for him to sit for 2 years before being sprung on the world. Hasselbeck is not Mora’s guy.
Clev – Malcolm Jenkins – Cleveland takes the local legend and best CB in the draft.
Oak – Brian Orakpo – Oak addresses it’s horrendous pass rush. Clearly they are headed in the right direction.
Jags – Crabtree – David Garrard is one happy QB right now, as the best WR on the board falls into their laps
GB – BJ Raji – GB Gets a NT for Jarron and his 3-4 defense.
SF – Michael Oher – Barry Sims is not the answer at RT for them, and Oher is good enough to compete for their starting LT job.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Charley, I agree, talking later rounds, diamond in the rough?
April 20th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Scottish Raider Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
No, we should not take Curry. If he’s available we should take Andre Smith – if not, we take Michael Oher.
Curry is a fine prospect but, No7 for a SLB is no value. Oher will start for a decade at OT for us.
I think the top 10 will be:
1. Lions: Stafford
2. Rams: J Smith
3. Chiefs: Monroe
4. Seahawks: Sanchez
5. Browns: Crabtree
6. Bengals: A Smith
7. Raiders: Oher
8. Jags: Maclin
9. Packers: Raji
10. Whiners: Maybin
^^^^^^
So in this scenario the pick would be Oher or Raji most likely….but I don’t see the Browns picking Crabtree over Curry….the only way is if Braylon is dealt and if he is dealt for the Giants #1….then the Browns should still take Curry and then they can take a WR like Britt with the pick they got from the Giants.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
24,
Nader answered your question. It’s intoxication, and the way it alters your behavior and judgment.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Raider O, very interesting regarding banning it in stages. Didn’t know that. I stopped weed first personally (nothing religious) but man did my drinking escalate for 6-8 months. But I digress…hey I haven’t seen a mock from you in the last 7 minutes…you alright? ;P
April 20th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Hey Raider O,
I see the mods took care of that little conversation we had yesterday. Whew, politics here I come!!!
April 20th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
KoolKell ,
i`m with you on that td`s are the name of the game crabtree has 41 of them.if he is gone i go with maclin 33 td`s in 28 games(22 rec td`s).
April 20th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Nnamdi was definitely not a 1st-round DB when we snagged him. Al might be a crazy old fool, but he out-foxed the football world in that draft, and he could out-fox them again by taking the unheralded Mike Mitchell earlier than people expect.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Cincy took Jason Smith folks … sorry for the technical difficulties on this glorious holiday.
There may be a few more thoughts that I have in my head that don’t actually make it to print, lol!
Sorry!
April 20th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Yeah Blackdeath29,
A pick that high needs to a star.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
if we draft an OT, it will set this team back for years to come. if only we ngata instead of huff. think of how good we could have been and how better off we would have been today. we have more dire needs to fill than OT. we have no defensive line. havent had one for years. we have no pass rush. havent had one for years. we already upgraded our offinsive line with the likes of barnes, pears and satile. getting a wr or ot with the #7 pick will mean we will score 20-30 pts a game instead of the usual 3 – 17 but still give up 26 – 35 a game. we need a defensive game changer. if we keep the #7 then we must go with raji unless curry is there. then we must go with curry. but if we could trade down to acquire another 2nd or 3rd round pick, then we should do that. we can still get a britt or robiski in round 2. and i love chung at safety. could still be there at round 3. great against the run. and if we trade down, would love to get ayers.
so, to recap:
1st – raji or curry with #7 or ayers in mid 1st round
2nd – britt or robiski
3rd – chung
April 20th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Nnamdi was definitely not a 1st-round DB when we snagged him. Al might be a crazy old fool, but he out-foxed the football world in that draft, and he could out-fox them again by taking the unheralded Mike Mitchell earlier than people expect.
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Al Davis got lucky with Nnamdi. If he was out foxing people, he would have been able to fix his roster problems over the last 6 years.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Kell,
I am in no way under the impression that Al can out-fox people on a regular basis, but even a broken clock is right twice a day, and Al was right about Nnamdi.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Kell,
I am in no way under the impression that Al can out-fox people on a regular basis, but even a broken clock is right twice a day, and Al was right about Nnamdi.
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Exactly, he was lucky.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Raccoon,
Well I am glad at least one person agrees with me about the need for another TE, considering the two-tight end sets. So far this off-season, the Raiders have taken a closer look at as many TE’s as they have WR’s. Our biggest problems on offense are lack of protection for Russell and lack of targets for Russell to throw to. Only one position solves both of those problems.
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Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma St
April 20th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
al been right on draft day the last 2 years.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
BBB, very good! lmao
April 20th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
We’ve had a bad D-line for years.
We’ve been weak at Safety for years.
Haven’t had a great Left Tackle for years.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
new post
April 20th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Agree KK, and a NT would be like x-mass
April 20th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Don’t draft a LB with the 7th! With the style of defense Al likes to play, very few LB’s could make an impact. Our LB’s rarely blitz, our D line is not set up to protect them, they get lots of 1 on 1 matchups with RBs coming out of the backfield, etc. The last time our LB’s had an impact season they were intercepting passes on 3rd down. Maybe it was Rob frigin Ryans fault. I doubt it.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
al`s only missed on 4 guys in two years
2008
1. Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas
4a. Tyvon Branch, DB, Connecticut
4b. Arman Shields, WR, Richmond
6. Trevor Scott, DE, Buffalo
7. Chaz Schilens, WR, San Diego State
The Raiders chose LSU QB JaMarcus Russell with the 1st overall pick of the 2007 NFL Draft.
2007
1. JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU
2. Zach Miller, TE, Arizona State
3a. Quentin Moses, DE, Georgia
3b. Mario Henderson, OL, Florida State
3c. Johnnie Lee Higgins, WR, UTEP
4a. Michael Bush, RB, Louisville
4b. John Bowie, CB, Cincinnati
5a. Jay Richardson, DE, Ohio State
5b. Eric Frampton, S, Washington State
6. Oren O’Neal, FB, Arkansas State
7. Jonathan Holland, WR, Louisiana Tech
April 20th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
BD29, We have some very good talent to carry us for a few good years, IMO!
April 20th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
New post.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Thanks, KK !
April 20th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
860Todd Christensen ,
just trying point out the fact that al`s had two good draft`s in a row.also zack miller drafted in the 2nd round and darren mcfadden in the first are the leading wr on the team.get russell a #1 wr than and a center than take care of the defense.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
I see….
Det – Stafford
Rams – J. Smith
KC – Eugene Monroe or Curry
Sea – Sanchez, Curry or Monroe
Clev – Curry, Orakpo or Raji
Cinncy- A.Smith,Raji or Crabtree
Oak – Crabtree, A Smith or Raji, or Oher
April 20th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Still here BD29? I think we solved the center problem, we need a staunt, mean,OL. I agree 100%. But Miller has been a lineman too long, he needs to be a reciever, much like TCristensen, Always got it done on 3′rds by a quick block, cut in before the LB’s, made the 1rts. We get a really good OLT, frees up Miller, allows for a good ORTE, we march!!!!!!
April 20th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
4:20
April 20th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Happy days 4eve,O, gang
April 20th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Anybody out there surprised that every time the topic of “what top 10 picking team is going to auction off the Sanchez spot” comes up Oaktown at #7 never gets mentioned? If I’m Snyder in DC or in the SF Whiner’s front office I would have Big Al’s phone number on speed dial.
And please Mr. Davis (and I know you haven’t done it much in the past), if the call does come in please think long and hard about trading down 3 spots with SF or 6 (?) with the foreskins. You are still going to get an impact player at 10 or 13 plus a mid 3rd. And its not like we are just one player away.
April 20th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Raiders dont have enough picks to make an impact. Better off using draft to build dl and safeties and ol.
Denver has 9 possibly 10 picks, bolts and chiefs have 8.
Its going to be another 4-12/5-11 season. This season build the defense or OL. Heyward-bey has lousy hands and Maclin has durability issues. Those guys you take in latter rounds.
April 20th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Pretty much no team wants to draft in the top 10. Its not a real strong draft for the value. Why spend a top 10 on Sanchez when you can get Rhett Bomar (who I think is going to be the stael of the draft)in the 3rd or 4th round. For the raiders and a lot of teams this is building year Al should trade down for more picks.
Build the defense that way.
April 20th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Enough tape on Smith to make him the pick at 7.
April 20th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Need to buy Smith a manzeire though. Nipple chaffing could land him on IR.
April 20th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Oh no he dih-in’t!~
April 20th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
What? Am I alone on here?
April 20th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Hello? I’d do Kathy Griffin…
April 20th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Manny…Motto…Motto…Motto…
April 20th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Al, please draft linemen in the first two rounds.
Please!!!!
The game is won on the line!
April 21st, 2009 at 1:22 am
Kirk…..Test.
Name one lineman from the Steelers?
April 21st, 2009 at 10:30 am
Why not take Rey Maualuga? I really think he is a draft sleeper, but wont be around for the Raiders to pick.
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