ESPN radio mock
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, April 23rd, 2009 at 9:25 am in Oakland Raiders.
Here’s how the ESPN radio mock draft played out from picks 1 through 32:
1. Detroit Lions: QB Matt Stafford, Georgia. Selector: Nick Cotsonika, Detroit Free Press.
2. St. Louis Rams: OT Jason Smith, Baylor. Selector Brian Stull, ESPN Radio-St. Louis.
3. Kansas City Chiefs: OT Eugene Monroe, Virginia. Selector: Adam Teicher, Kansas City Star.
4. Seattle Seahawks: LB Aaron Curry, Wake Forest. Selector: Danny O’Neil, Seattle Times
5. Cleveland Browns: WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech. Selector: Mary Kay Cabot, Cleveland Plain Dealer.
6. Cincinnati Bengals: OT Andre Smith, Alabama. Selector: Joe Reedy, Cincinnati Enquirer.
7. Oakland Raiders: DT B.J. Raji, Boston College. Selector: Jerry McDonald, Oakland Tribune.
8. Jacksonville Jaguars: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri. Selector: Cole Pepper, WOKV Radio in Jacksonville.
9. Green Bay Packers: DE Brian Orakpo, Texas. Selector: Jason Wilde, Wisconsin State Journal.
10. San Francisco 49ers: DE/OLB Aaron Maybin, Penn State. Selector: Cam Inman, Contra Costa Times.
11. Buffalo Bills: DE Everette Brown, Florida State. Selector: Mark Gaughan, Buffalo News.
12. Denver Broncos: DE Tyson Jackson, LSU. Selector: Mark Klis, Denver Post.
13. Washington Redskins: QB Mark Sanchez, USC. Selector: Jason LaCanfora, Washington Post.
14. New Orleans Saints: CB Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State. Selector: Sheldon Mickles, Baton Route Advocate.
15. Houston Texans: LB Clay Matthews, USC. Selector: Megan Manfull, Houston Chronicle.
16. San Diego Chargers: RB Beanie Wells, Ohio State. Selector: Kevin Acee, San Diego Union-Tribune.
17. New York Jets: RB Knowshon Moreno, Georgia. Selector: Erik Boland, Newsday.
18. Denver Broncos: CB Darius Butler, UConn. Selector: Mark Klis, Denver Post.
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: CB Vontae Davis, Illinois. Selector: Rick Stroud, St. Petersberg Times.
20. Detroit Lions: LB Rey Maualuga, USC. Selector: Nick Cotsonika, Detroit Free Press.
21. Philadelphia Eagles: RB LeSean McCoy, Pitt. Selector: Bob Brookover, Philadelphia Inquirer.
22. Minnesota Vikings: OT Michael Oher, Mississippi. Selector: Sean Jensen, Pioneer Press.
23. New England Patriots: DE Robert Ayers, Tennessee. Selector: Mike Reiss, Boston Globe.
24. Atlanta Falcons: LB Brian Cushing, USC. Selector: D. Orlando Ledbetter, Atlanta-Journal Constitution.
25. Miami Dolphins: WR Hakeem Nicks, North Carolina. Selector: Jeff Darlington, Miami Herald.
26. Baltimore Ravens: TE Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma State. Selector: Jamison Hensley, Baltimore Sun.
27. Indianapolis Colts: DT Peria Jerry, Mississippi. Selector: Justin Cohn, Fort Wayne Journal Gazette.
28. Buffalo Bills: T Eben Britton, Arizona. Selector: Mark Gaughan, Buffalo News.
29. New York Giants: WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland. Selector Ralph Vacchiano, New York Daily News.
30. Tennessee Titans: WR Kenny Britt, Rutgers. Selector: Jim Wyatt, The Tennessean.
31. Arizona Cardinals: RB Donald Brown, UConn. Selector Kent Somers, Arizona Republic.
32. Pittsburgh Steelers: DT Evander “Ziggy” Hood, Missouri. Selector: Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
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April 23rd, 2009 at 9:27 am
MY GOD!!! i really dont care!!!
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:28 am
lets get this freaking weekend over with!
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:29 am
Why not trade back and try to pry Anquan Boldin out Arizona’s hands with a package deal?
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:29 am
yikes. terrible
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:32 am
repost:
The Giants are only offering 2nd & 5th rounders for Braylon Edwards. They are holding the Browns hostage because the draft is fast approaching and the Brownies are deperate to unload him …
I think Al Davis should sneak in and offer our 2nd rounder as well as their choice between Fargas & Walker.
Our 2nd rounder is much higher than NYG’s.
Walker would pair with Cribbs & David Patten and make them a little less desperate at the WR position.
or Jamal Lewis/Justin Fargas might be a good RB duo
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then i’d be happy to draft Raji or Oher 7th overall
your thoughts Nation?
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:32 am
I really think this is the worst mock draft I’ve seen yet.
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:32 am
Double R Whats up Brother?
I think Al Davis should sneak in and offer our 2nd rounder as well as their choice between Fargas & Walker.
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That would be nice then we address our lines in the first two rounds like you said raji or oher looks good at 7 with Edwards on our roster!! (im a fargas fan tho.. we need three running backs we dnt have one thats ever been completely healthy)
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:35 am
fukk boldin… he is going downhill from now, Braylon Edwards is going to be on the top, i rather have him, not that i want any of them
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:35 am
3. Kansas City Chiefs: OT Eugene Monroe
12. Denver Broncos: DE Tyson Jackson
16. San Diego Chargers: RB Beanie Wells
18. Denver Broncos: CB Darius Butler
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not so bad. Better than the chefs taking Crabtree, the dolts getting Maualuga and the donks getting Moreno & Jenkins!
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:37 am
As i said in the previous thread, I wouldn’t mind Shaun Andrews for a 3rd!!
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:41 am
good morning OAKlifer.
the Browns would get more in return from us than the Giants were offering that way.
Raiders could draft A. Smith, Raji or Oher (in that order)
then in round 3 draft DT Sammie Lee Hill. this kid is going to be a monster in the NFL
Edwards replacing Walker in the WR corps would be HUGE.
Rankin could fill the void left by Fargas (3rd on the depth chart)
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:41 am
I suppose this only means that it is SURE that the Raiders WON’T be selecting BJ Raji. Good work Jerry!
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:41 am
I have a feeling that Monroe might end up available for us. If:
Det- Stafford
STL- Jason Smith
KC- Curry or this Jackson guy from LSU
Sea- Sanchez
Cle- Orakpo or Crabtree
Cincy- Andre Smith
It looks like it might come down to Cincy taking Andre Smith or Monroe, and what KC does. Have a feeling KC is going to work a trade with the Redskins so they can get Sanchez, which would than affect what Sea would do.
This draft stuff is maddening isn’t it? And I am not down with this 1 pm start time, when it is at 9 am, it’s an all day event, now at 1 I’m sure the wife will have me running around in the am. I hate Goodell for this.
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:42 am
lol, like Detroit would pass on Oher at 20.
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:43 am
Dude:
McFadden only got more than 15 carries in one game last year …
in that game he ran for 164 yards and a TD
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Bush only got more than 15 carries in two games last year …
1st game: 90 yards, TD
2nd game: 177 yards, 2 TD’s
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:43 am
LMN,
Isn’t Shaun Andrews a mental headcase? Plus I heard he wants a new contract.
For a 3rd it might be fair value, but I would rather throw out a 4th this year, and a 5th next year or something.
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:43 am
The worst Mock i have seen by far.
Al takes Raji over Orakpo and Maclin, no way.
When was the last time Al drafted a player in the top 10, who was not an athletic freak.
DMC: ran a 4.27
JR: 6′6 270 with a cannon
Huff: ran a sub 4.4
Charles: ran a sub 4.4
Gallery: best workout of an OT in a long time.
D Russell: he was 320, and ran a sub 4.9
No way Al drafts Raji.
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:43 am
OHHH yes forgot about Rankin….hmmm replacing walker with me or you would be huge!! LMAO
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:44 am
i know it wont happen but think of this. detroit pick stafford with #1 and then al davis convinces detroit to take our #7 to draft one of the OT to protect stafford. in return we get detroits #20 & #33.
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:46 am
Houston definately taking Matthews JR at #15 if he is there, his uncle (Bruce) is one of the most popular athletes to ever play in Houston. Plus, they signed Bruce to be an offensive assistant a month ago, tipping their hand a little, IMO.
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:47 am
31. Arizona Cardinals: RB Donald Brown
WHO??? they should just trade us that pick and boldin for our second this year and a 4th next year
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:47 am
lol, like Detroit would pass on Oher at 20.
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I doubt the Eagles pass on Pettigrew, Nicks, Britt or DHB in favor of LeSean McCoy either…
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:49 am
Al will never pick Raji, and next year is loaded with talented D linemen.
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:49 am
No player rushed for more yards last season than University of Connecticut running back Donald Brown. The 5-foot-10, 210-pound junior racked up 2083 yards ..
Thats who I geuss..never heard his name till today….
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:51 am
Dakota Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 8:55 am
666,
Arguing is fun. If we all agreed with each other in here this place would be boooooooring.
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I disagree with both of you!!!
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:52 am
Henry Lawrence Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:49 am
Norco Bob Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 8:34 am
Want to hear something funny?…I didnt know there was a city called “Norco”,..guess down by Riverside,…a friend of mine down there says theres a sports blog he hangs in, and theres a Norco Bob thats a regular,…any of you world travelers ever been to a city called Norco?
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No, but I have been to the Spirt World…..Sometimes on a daily basses.
Cheers
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:53 am
OAKlifer -
RB Donald Brown might be the best RB in this draft
sort of like Chris Johnson last year … very underrated
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:54 am
Personally, I’m not sure how I’m going to waste my time once the draft is over and training camp starts…
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:03 am
YA,
I suggest drugs, spirits and women.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:03 am
Personally, I’m not sure how I’m going to waste my time once the draft is over and training camp starts…
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YoungAmerican: It’s quite simple really. I’ll tell you exactly what will happen. Everybody will be posting draft profiles of the guys we select. Guys in here will be saying that even the players we select in Rounds 3, 4 & 7 will be projected starters from Day 1. We’ll post the “cons” sections from the draft profiles on AFC West rival draftees and talk about what busts they will be or how they will get injured and be non factors. We’ll post training camp projections and reports. Remember Drew Carter & Edgerton Hartwell were a big thing last year. Donovan Darius & Quentin Moses were the year before that. None of these players ever sniffed the field in the regular season. Mario Henderson was garbage and Michael Huff was a superhero in camp last year … plenty to talk about
not that any of it matters. haha
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:04 am
Double R,
Yes very Chris J like..heard some chatter but never much hype so I looked into it this kid is RAW!!!!!
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YoungAmerican Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:54 am
Personally, I’m not sure how I’m going to waste my time once the draft is over and training camp starts…
Must not be married!!!!!
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:04 am
The other disturbing talk I keep hearing about lately besides REACHING for Maclin at #7 is that the Raiders may reach for DHB at #7 also?? WTF?
That would be a silly and unwise move especially since they may be able to get a trade down opportunity to where they can then get DHB later in the 1st round and pay less money.
A potential trade partner could be Buffalo again.
They may want Oher and the Niners may get him at 10. If the Raiders can get the Bills two first rounders, then the Raiders can pick Ayers or Maualuga at 11 and then at at 28 look at DHB or Phil Loadholt and with their 2nd Rounder they can snatch Jarron Gilbert or Ramses Barden!
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:05 am
Why does my gut prefer Maclin over Crabtree?
I think it’s the wonderlic scores, and the fact that he is more explosive after the catch.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:06 am
Dakota:
I suggest Chevy trucks, Raider football and going to the gym
politics if you get REALLY bored …
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:10 am
Raiders may reach for DHB at #7 also?? WTF?
This wnt happen Al is crazy not stupid…he knows we can get him later hell he might pull a minnesota and just not pick @ 7 if “his guys” are gone and then step in and draft DHB at like 12 or 13 who knows Ive seen crazier shyt go down!!!
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:11 am
No way Sanchez falls right into the Skins laps at 13 Jerry! There will be a trade up for him or Seattle may just take him.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:11 am
Dakota Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:03 am
YA,
I suggest drugs, spirits and women.
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YEP!
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:12 am
I wonder who will be first to post their projected 53-man roster after the draft.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:12 am
Rockstar,
For me it will more likely be hanging out with my son, mowing the lawn and work.
I’ll let you guys do the drugs and drink MOST of the spirits, lol.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:12 am
DKnight007,
DHB is definitely a reach at No. 7. Maclin is not.
I agree with you about Maualuga though. That’s the guy I want most. I highly doubt the Bills would deal a pair of first rounders to move up four spots though. If we could somehow get out of the first round with Maualuga and Percy Harvin that would be amazing.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:13 am
OAKlifer Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:04 am
Double R,
Yes very Chris J like..heard some chatter but never much hype so I looked into it this kid is RAW!!!!!
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YoungAmerican Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:54 am
Personally, I’m not sure how I’m going to waste my time once the draft is over and training camp starts…
Must not be married!!!!!
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Exactly! LOL
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:13 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:06 am
Dakota:
I suggest Chevy trucks, Raider football and going to the gym
politics if you get REALLY bored …
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No. Ford TRUCKS, RAIDER Football, and fishing the Sac Delta with a cold one!
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:15 am
The Raiders need to be PROACTIVE and not REACTIVE in this draft.
If players the the players they love do not fall into their laps….make moves and TRADES to get more damn picks!
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:15 am
Trying to handicap baseball will fill the time for me.
Hey Dakota, only took Milton 13 games to get hurt, suspended and booed!!! Amazing, who would have seen that coming, lol.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:16 am
Dakota Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:12 am
Rockstar,
For me it will more likely be hanging out with my son, mowing the lawn and work.
I’ll let you guys do the drugs and drink MOST of the spirits, lol.
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My kids are grown, and I cut my own grass…. Ahe he he he
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:17 am
Dakota how old is your boy and why isn’t he mowing the lawn?
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:17 am
Harvins A stud….If we were putting together a swimming team for the olympics would we leave Michael Phelps of the roster…Just curious how the nation preceives the BONJG “with outh the J”
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:19 am
There are three keys to this draft:
1) Do the Lions take Stafford?
2) Do the Chiefs take Curry?
3) Do the Seahawks take Sanchez?
If the answer to any of the above questions is no, then the Raiders are likely to get trade down offers.
If the Lions take an OT, then all four top OTs could go by No7. Anybody desperate for Michael Oher or Stafford would want to trade with the Raiders. If the Chiefs pass on Curry, he may go to the Seahawks – in which case Sanchez is on the board at No7.
Unless Crabtree or Andre Smith is available to the Raiders at No7, then I don’t think there is anybody good enough to warrant passing on a trade offer. Are Raji, Maclin, Heywood-Bey or Orakpo good value at No7? No.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:19 am
Harvin is Reggie Bush and we already have McFadden. All three are similar? Don’t you think?
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:19 am
Chris in NY Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:12 am
DKnight007,
DHB is definitely a reach at No. 7. Maclin is not.
I agree with you about Maualuga though. That’s the guy I want most. I highly doubt the Bills would deal a pair of first rounders to move up four spots though. If we could somehow get out of the first round with Maualuga and Percy Harvin that would be amazing.
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It would be nice if that would can be done.
Maclin is a reach at #7 IMO. I would rather trade the #7 pick to the Brownies and get Braylon Edwards! Maybe the Browns can give is a 4th Rounder in return or something! LOL
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:21 am
I want to cut my own Grass too. lol
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:22 am
Bo34 Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:19 am
Harvin is Reggie Bush and we already have McFadden. All three are similar? Don’t you think?
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Uhhh…..Harvin may be one of the most explosive WR in the draft not a gimmick slash back..I know he had more rushing yrds and td’s…but that was the offense they ran..just like crabbs getting the ball of bubble screens..they do what the coaches ask..He is not reggie bush “who kinda sucks” and Definitly not McFaddy our new caddy..this kid will be a WR in the NFL.IMHO he was the best player on that flordia team.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:22 am
Ask any fan of the Browns about Braylon and they will say they have never seen anyone drop so many passes.
The passes he dropped were the “big ones” too, deep passes where he was behind the defense, 3rd down conversions and the like.
He is so talented, so it is all between the ears. Might have went Chuck Knoblauch-Steve Sax on us.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:24 am
I got no kids. been married 2 years. wife just went off the birth control. we’ll see what happens
should be plenty of ACTION this offseason
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:24 am
Bong!!!
Grass!!!
Hmmm
LMN,
Watch out!!!
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:25 am
He’s almost 15, but I mow the lawn because it relaxes me for some damned reason.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:26 am
I’m sure that damn Kiper will have his 2010 mock draft up by Monday morning.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:26 am
RR
Good Luck.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:28 am
The Walter Football 2010 mock draft has been up for months:
http://walterfootball.com/draft2010.php
Two great Safeties: Berry and Mays
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:29 am
Dakota,
How old are you? 34?
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:29 am
Bo,
All I know is whenever I watched a Florida game in the last two years, no matter who the competition was, Harvin was the best player on the field, including Tebow. He’s just so explosive out of his cuts and has elite game speed. Reminds me a lot of Steve Smith though he’s a couple of inches taller.
A lot of people seem to look at Maclin and Harvin and the fact that they often ran the ball or how Maclin was used in the return game and diminish their receiving ability because of it. I don’t. The way I look at it, these guys were so explosive and such tremendous weapons with the ball in their hands that their coaches made sure they got as many touches as possible.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:30 am
vegas raider Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:15 am
Trying to handicap baseball will fill the time for me.
^^^^^^
You must be REALLY bored then!
Play the run lines if anything….
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:30 am
Ha, too much!!
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:30 am
I wonder who will be first to post their projected 53-man roster after the draft.
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LOL! probably me. is that sad? i get excited about trimming the fat off the roster … i was overjoyed we cut curry, harris, hall, etc
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:31 am
1st round-Raji…………..2nd-Barden
……or……
1st round-Crabtree…………2nd-Gilbert (sleeper of the draft)
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:31 am
no way this happens
22. Minnesota Vikings: OT Michael Oher
No way he lasts that long!!
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:31 am
I have a daughter, and now I want a boy.
I wish I started younger. I’m 30 now.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:33 am
Not advocating for percy just sayin if we trade down and hes there around the mid 20’s he could be a real steal if it wernt for the purp….he would have been drafted a lot higher!!! no pun intended
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:33 am
DKnight007 Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:30 am
vegas raider Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:15 am
Trying to handicap baseball will fill the time for me.
^^^^^^
You must be REALLY bored then!
Play the run lines if anything….
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I love baseball, so don’t mind it. I am a value player, finding the best plays that pay better than even money.
My 3-legger right now, Royals with the under (8.5) and Philly Run-line. $20 to win $164.25.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:35 am
Raider O,
I’m 32, closing in on 33.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:35 am
Edwards is kind of a gamble. I loved him coming out of college — thought he should’ve been the No. 1 pick over Alex Smith. And he had 16 TD catches in 2007. But he did have a ton of drops in 2008 and pretty mediocre numbers. If you’re getting the 2007 version you’re getting one of the top-5 WRs in the league in his prime. If you’re getting the 2008 version, no way is that worth a high 1st round pick. I could live with that trade, but it’s definitely a gamble, especially because he’s got a bit of that Charles Woodson cocky/lackadaisical attitude.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:35 am
I have a daughter, and now I want a boy.
I wish I started younger. I’m 30 now.
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My dad was 36 when my mom gave birth to me. no big deal. he’s still alive and well
mom is 9 years younger than him though. i’m the youngest of 3
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:37 am
Which safety would you guys draft raider nation?
I like Rashad Johnson and Patrick Chung.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:40 am
Braylon Edwards had 4 different QB’s last year.
plus he was doubled a lot since Stallworth went AWOL (17 catches last season)
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:41 am
Chung over Johnson.
neither will be there in Round 4 so we’ll take Mitchell, Vaughn or Bruton …
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:42 am
RR,
My Father is not with us. He missed me getting Married, and the birth of my daughter.
I think that’s the reason behind my thoughts.
I’m also an only child, so I want a big Family. lol
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:44 am
There’s been a lot of talk about Vaughn. I’ve never seen him play. What are strenghts and weaknesses?
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:44 am
Raji? Are you f’n serious Jerry?
What a stupid idea. Lets draft a fat, soon to be underachieving, overpaid D Lineman to go with our current fat, underachieving, overpaid D lineman. Wow.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:44 am
Bruton/ Mike Mithchell/ Vaugh
Not in that order.
I honestly will not care as long as we get one of these Ss.
No Chung or Moore for me.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:45 am
Raider O you are the classic example of an only child.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:45 am
Raider O Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:42 am
RR,
My Father is not with us. He missed me getting Married, and the birth of my daughter.
I think that’s the reason behind my thoughts.
I’m also an only child, so I want a big Family. lol
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He was there, you just couldn’t see him. Life after death my friend is real.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:46 am
Dakota I have an 11 year old and he has been fighting me to start mowing the lawn but, like you I enjoy it too. It relaxes me. But, my boy has won and this summer we are going to share the duties. I really think Harvin was an incredible college player but, in the pros he won’t be faster than everyone. Also, he would only be ruined in our system. He would be a much better fit with Peyton Manning in Indy than he would with us.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:47 am
I LOVE CHUNG…wait that didnt come out right..I seen this kid play live a few times he’s the real deal and Double R is right we would have to pull somestrings or reach for him if he the guy!!!Vaughn lays the wood preety well also and he will be late 3rd early 4th so maybe..
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:47 am
Raider O Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:21 am
I want to cut my own Grass too. lol
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Ya got to fertilize bra… lol
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:48 am
OAKlifer Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:47 am
I LOVE CHUNG…
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Wang Chung?
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:48 am
I don’t know why, but I got a feeling Gilbert is going to be a hella of NFL player.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:48 am
# DMAC Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:37 am
Which safety would you guys draft raider nation?
I like Rashad Johnson and Patrick Chung.
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Mike Mitchell, Ohio or Chip Vaughn, Wake Forest.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:49 am
Chung is defintely a hitter, but lacks in defensive coverage.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:49 am
sorry to hear that Raider O. my mom has breast cancer and will likely be gone in another month or two (best case scenario). tough to lose a loved one. all my grandparents have passed
good luck on the boy. I hope we have a boy first (doesn’t every dad?)
having a big family is fun. my wife’s dad has 8 brothers & sisters and they (and their children) all live in our small country town of 300 people. haha
all go to the same church, a lot of them work at the same place, etc. kinda like mayberry
can I borrow a cup of sugar? haha
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:50 am
Raider O Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:42 am
RR,
My Father is not with us. He missed me getting Married, and the birth of my daughter.
I think that’s the reason behind my thoughts.
I’m also an only child, so I want a big Family. lol
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O, he was with you, you know it in your heart, always will be.
RIP MR. “O” Sr
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:50 am
I also like Sean Smuth from Utah, but I see him more as a FS. I still like Huff and Branch at FS. I think we need a SS who can play the run too.
S Smith is 6′4 214, and played CB, FS, and was drafted to play RB or WR.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:51 am
hey at least I didnt say I love wang……
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:51 am
vegas raider Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:33 am
DKnight007 Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:30 am
vegas raider Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:15 am
Trying to handicap baseball will fill the time for me.
^^^^^^
You must be REALLY bored then!
Play the run lines if anything….
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I love baseball, so don’t mind it. I am a value player, finding the best plays that pay better than even money.
My 3-legger right now, Royals with the under (8.5) and Philly Run-line. $20 to win $164.25.
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Yep! Only way to do it when handicapping baseball. I usually do the same thing and I won some very good money 2 seasons ago laying wagers just like the one you posted above. I didn’t play much last year do being a busy year for me last year. I will look into some value plays this year though.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:52 am
We need Curry or Rey. We need a solid MLB and a Safety. Wish we could pick up Curry, but he will be gone. We need to trade our pick for the FIRST time in history. But, we wont……. It’s a crapshoot.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:52 am
I would just stick to doing two team parlays….not three.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:52 am
I thing Branch is better suited for Free safety, but I think the Raiders plan on starting him at strong safety.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:53 am
Thank you guy, Classy as always.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:54 am
think
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:54 am
Yeah, Tyvon is still an unknown to us. WOnder if he can play. Dude is quick. Will be interesting to see what he does this year..
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:55 am
I seen him make a few plays last year with a borken arm or wrist. I think he even got an interception.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:56 am
DMAC Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:48 am
I don’t know why, but I got a feeling Gilbert is going to be a hella of NFL player.
^^^^^^
I think he will be solid as well. Would love to see the Raiders pick him to add strength, athleticism and versatility to our underacvieving D-Line!
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:56 am
Rockstar,
Sorry to hear that about your mom. I found out my Mom has cancer two months ago…but her prognosis is very good at this point.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:57 am
Yeah, he had a nice interception and returned it quite a few yards with his cast on. Need to see him hit though, and how he plays in the box. Hopefully he has better instincts than Girbil did.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:57 am
There’s been a lot of talk about Vaughn. I’ve never seen him play. What are strenghts and weaknesses?
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DMAC:
Strengths:
Terrific size and bulk…Superb tackler…Real tough and physical…Will deliver the big hit…Very active and aggressive…Good range…Does a fantastic job against the run…Smart and instinctive…Very productive.
Weaknesses:
Just average speed…Doesn’t have great hands or ball skills…Gets too high in his backpedal…Hips aren’t real fluid…Will struggle to match up with wideouts in man coverage…Isn’t very quick…A little inconsistent.
Notes:
First name is “Clarence”…Actually arrived at Wake Forest as a wide receiver…Saw extensive action as a backup early in his career before taking over a starting job in 2007…Led the Demon Deacons in tackles as a junior…A blue-collar prospect who certainly isn’t flashy but has adequate physical tools and even better intangibles…An in-the-box run supporter whose best fit at the next level will be as a strong safety.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:57 am
DKnight007 Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:52 am
I would just stick to doing two team parlays….not three.
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I have a pretty strict “System” if you will, but today’s light schedule doesn’t allow it.
I usually play around $100 a day, put $50 of it on one team that is plus money, so if I hit that I am even. The other $50 goes to a couple 3,4 or some crazy parlays, depending on how I am doing.
I started off great this year, than left for the anniversary to Niagara, and haven’t been able to pick up the rhythm again yet. I usually make a little money in baseball each year, break even or lose a little in footbal, and get smashed in hoops.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:58 am
Chris in NY Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:35 am
Edwards is kind of a gamble. I loved him coming out of college — thought he should’ve been the No. 1 pick over Alex Smith. And he had 16 TD catches in 2007. But he did have a ton of drops in 2008 and pretty mediocre numbers. If you’re getting the 2007 version you’re getting one of the top-5 WRs in the league in his prime. If you’re getting the 2008 version, no way is that worth a high 1st round pick. I could live with that trade, but it’s definitely a gamble, especially because he’s got a bit of that Charles Woodson cocky/lackadaisical attitude.
^^^^^^
Edwards at least is a prototypical #1 WR unlike Maclin….
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:58 am
RR,
Really sorry to hear that. A lot more than you can imagine. My father died due to cancer.
Bro, I don’t know you well to give you advise, but take it as someones elses experience.
Spend as much time as you can, cant stress that enough.
I think of every min I wasted that I could have spent with my father.
Also tell her everything. I wish I told the old man I loved him more.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:59 am
thanks for the info RR
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:59 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:49 am
sorry to hear that Raider O. my mom has breast cancer and will likely be gone in another month or two (best case scenario). tough to lose a loved one. all my grandparents have passed
good luck on the boy. I hope we have a boy first (doesn’t every dad?)
having a big family is fun. my wife’s dad has 8 brothers & sisters and they (and their children) all live in our small country town of 300 people. haha
all go to the same church, a lot of them work at the same place, etc. kinda like mayberry
can I borrow a cup of sugar? haha
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Our prayers are with you and yours RRS..
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:01 am
LOL @ OAKlifer post #92
Dakota: makes sure your mom eats healthy, goes to all of her appts and does whatever kind of treatment they suggest
good thing they found it before it spread to her lymph glands. I’ll keep her in my prayers
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:01 am
666,
I’m scared to ask, but why? lol
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:02 am
vegas raider Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:57 am
DKnight007 Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:52 am
I would just stick to doing two team parlays….not three.
**************************
I have a pretty strict “System” if you will, but today’s light schedule doesn’t allow it.
I usually play around $100 a day, put $50 of it on one team that is plus money, so if I hit that I am even. The other $50 goes to a couple 3,4 or some crazy parlays, depending on how I am doing.
I started off great this year, than left for the anniversary to Niagara, and haven’t been able to pick up the rhythm again yet. I usually make a little money in baseball each year, break even or lose a little in footbal, and get smashed in hoops.
^^^^^^^
I do very well on college and pro football and then practically lost what I gained with the wagering on the SHADY NBA and college hoops this year. I knew better….but I was bored….LOL
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:04 am
vegas raider Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:15 am
Trying to handicap baseball will fill the time for me.
Hey Dakota, only took Milton 13 games to get hurt, suspended and booed!!! Amazing, who would have seen that coming, lol.
_________________________
Did the baseball season start? lol, I will pay attention to the Cubs once September rolls around and they are headed towards the playoffs…until then, I’d rather watch Wimbledon, lol. Baseball is almost unwatchable these days…unless you go to the game, then it is great!
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:05 am
Fellas, please. God bless you and yours, but it’s getting a bit depressing in here. Let’s stick to football and leave the personal tragedies out. We all have our sadness.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:06 am
thanks Dakota, Raider O & Henry …
you guys are good dudes
O, I just flew out to CA to see mom last month. kind of a “saying goodbye” type of visit. I used to call her once every 3 weeks. now it’s more like 3 times a week
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:07 am
Thers been a lot of talk from Raider fans that Morrison should move to the outside and that we should draft a true middle LB like Rey M. I don’t agree. What do you guys think?
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:07 am
As usual, I think we’re going to see at least one huge surprise on Sat. And I think its going to happen in the 2nd round.
While I’m confident Al will go with a sensible pick in the 1st and get one of the top 3 OTs if they’re still on the board, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go defense and get Raji or an DE prospect like Brown.
But in the 2nd I think he’ll blow up the field and take Jared Cook, TE out of South Carolina. Much like the Teyo Johnson pick, Cook is a physical freak with the dreaded “upside”. And like the way Al wanted an athletic compliment to Jolley, he’s looking at the same thing for the steady but unspectacular Miller with Cook.
Sure Cook can’t block, but that doesn’t play into Al’s decision making. He’s an absolute nut for tight ends (see moving up to get Dudley) and resigned Stewart for blocking purposes.
We can still pick up an OT like Tropog in the 3rd and a S like Vaughn in the 4th, or perhaps even another weapon for Russell like WR Barden if he falls – or we pull off a trade for an additional pick.
So our draft could be:
1) Raji, DT
2) Cook, TE
3) Tropog, OT
4) Vaughn, S
4) Barden WR
Crazier things have happened …
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:07 am
RR,
I’ll keep her in my prayers.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:08 am
alright Einstein.. pick a topic
you’re right. sorry bro
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:09 am
DMAC I support that. Kirk is solid, but he just doesn’t have the presence of a MLB. He would be a terrific OLB. Not sure Rey M. is the guy though. WOuldn’t mind seeing what Curry could do in the middle. Dude is a specimin.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:09 am
Dakota Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:04 am
vegas raider Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:15 am
Trying to handicap baseball will fill the time for me.
Hey Dakota, only took Milton 13 games to get hurt, suspended and booed!!! Amazing, who would have seen that coming, lol.
_________________________
Did the baseball season start? lol, I will pay attention to the Cubs once September rolls around and they are headed towards the playoffs…until then, I’d rather watch Wimbledon, lol. Baseball is almost unwatchable these days…unless you go to the game, then it is great!
^^^^^^
Agreed! The corrupt sport of MLB is unwatchable on TV. I have better things to do then that. I don’t go to games very much and that started about 6 years ago when I knew they were a corrupt sport with steroid attempt at a cover up and all the lies from Selig, Feher and players. Terrible….no integrity.
When I do catch an A’s game….the best part is tailgating and talking smack to the opposing teams players! LOL
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:10 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:08 am
alright Einstein.. pick a topic
you’re right. sorry bro
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Dont be sorry my brother. Just a bit depressing…
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:11 am
Would love to see Kirk play MLB with a good DT.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:11 am
You wanna talk Baseball? Well, only one team worth talking about. L.A. Dodgers baby… Think Blue…
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:11 am
DMAC Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:07 am
Thers been a lot of talk from Raider fans that Morrison should move to the outside and that we should draft a true middle LB like Rey M. I don’t agree. What do you guys think?
^^^^^^
I wouldn’t mind that at all…..this team needs PHYSICAL and NASTY players who have an attitude if they are going to turn the corner.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:11 am
I just read my post above.
Sorry, I meant to say Thank You Guys.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:11 am
Not sure DT is Kirks problem. Both go hand in hand..
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:12 am
The non sense about Rey not being a 3 down LB is ridiculous IMO.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:12 am
DMAC: I don’t know whether I agree or not. one thing I will tell you? It’s not happening
The only LB we consider is Aaron Curry in Round 1 and he’s an OLB
Kirk is the MLB. he’s had his struggles like the rest of the defense, but in no way would I consider him the “weak link”
all the LB’s we’ve brought in for visits have been OLB’s for a reason. it’s not a smokescreen
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:12 am
I’ve seen plenty of those O-linemen get loose and punish him.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:13 am
Let’s talk basketball…
Lakers going all the way baby!!!
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:14 am
1. Rey Maualuga- Can’t teach bein the baddest muthaf in the draft, leader of arguably best college d ever, do you want this guy in SD or Denver? Cali guy
2. Fili Moala- Can’t teach 6′5, takes on double teams, Ngata cousin, cali guy
3. Ramses Barden- Can’t teach 6′6 and a house, immediate #1 WR, cali guy with serious upside
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:14 am
Raider O it was a joke I have been waiting years to use that line and you just gave me the opportunity that’s all.
I was just poking fun at you man not being serious at all.
Now Einstein you should know better than to be babbling about life after death after all you are supposed to be smart enough to not believe in imaginary friends, ghosts and so on.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:14 am
I would rather watch April baseball than playoff basketball. Either it is a blowout, or it comes down to the last 5 minutes. How could anyone consistently watch the 2nd quarter of a NBA game?
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:14 am
I guess I can root for the Lakers, since my DUBS went down this year.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:15 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:12 am
DMAC: I don’t know whether I agree or not. one thing I will tell you? It’s not happening
The only LB we consider is Aaron Curry in Round 1 and he’s an OLB
Kirk is the MLB. he’s had his struggles like the rest of the defense, but in no way would I consider him the “weak link”
all the LB’s we’ve brought in for visits have been OLB’s for a reason. it’s not a smokescreen
^^^^^^
More undersized speed guys….instead of THUMPERS huh?
I hope Brinkley is on their radar….he can thump!
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:16 am
the top 5 MLB’s in this draft are:
Rey Maualuga, USC
James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
Clint Sintim, Virginia
Jason Phillips, TCU
Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina
the top 5 OLB’s in this draft are:
Aaron Curry, Wake Forest
Everette Brown, DE Florida State
Aaron Maybin, Penn State
Brian Cushing, USC
Clay Matthews, USC
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:17 am
vegas raider Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:14 am
I would rather watch April baseball than playoff basketball. Either it is a blowout, or it comes down to the last 5 minutes. How could anyone consistently watch the 2nd quarter of a NBA game?
^^^^^^
Well….the NBA is nationally televised and the games mean something now. I don’t watch every playoff game….just the ones that I’m able to watch.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:18 am
I agree..
Brinkley is a hitter fa sho!
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:19 am
I posted this draft a lot, but in a few days I will not be able to to that.
So,
O Mock Draft:
1- Monroe/ A Smith/ Crab/ Maclin
2- M Johnson/ DHB
3- Alex Magee, Dorell Scott, or Sammie Lee
4- Bruton/ M Mitchell/ Vaughn
7- OLB Russell Allen SDSU, or Ty Dakes from Penn.
If we do that, we get a starting OT, DT, SS, and maybe a starting WR or DE with a solid OLB to compete.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:20 am
inonewordraider Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:14 am
1. Rey Maualuga- Can’t teach bein the baddest muthaf in the draft, leader of arguably best college d ever, do you want this guy in SD or Denver? Cali guy
2. Fili Moala- Can’t teach 6′5, takes on double teams, Ngata cousin, cali guy
3. Ramses Barden- Can’t teach 6′6 and a house, immediate #1 WR, cali guy with serious upside
^^^^^^
Nice….but I would rather have Jarron Gilbert in Round 2. 6′5, 280-285, long arms, strong, athletic and versatile. Went to SJSU….Cali guy!
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:20 am
Mo Bigsley,
I actually completely agree about Jared Cook in the 2nd. If we somehow land Crabtree in the 1st it won’t happen, and if a fantastic DE like Ayers or Michael Johnson are available in the 2nd it won’t happen; but barring those outcomes, I am fairly certain Al would take Cook to everybody’s surprise. I for one would be estatic, I love this Cook kid (no homo) and believe that he could be the steal of the draft. For everyone in here thinking that we should draft Barden as a red-zone threat in the 2nd consider this:
Jared Cook, 6′5″ 246 lbs 4.50sec 40-time!! 41″ vertical leap, 35″+ arm lenth and he is only a Junior, who played three years in the SEC. This kid is probably the most gifted physical freak in the entire draft.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:20 am
Now Celtics-Bulls, that has been a great few games and I will tune in tonight.
Magic-76ers, Mavs-Spurs……I would rather watch tonights White Sox-Orioles game (which I will with the baseball package and money on the over 10.5).
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:20 am
ok dakota lakers lose in 7 to portland after they wallop the jazz and lacsidasicaly waltz in to the Rose Garden and Broy puts 50 on kobe…
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:20 am
With the 7th overall pick in the 2009 NFL draft the Oakland Raiders select………..?????????
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:21 am
More undersized speed guys….instead of THUMPERS huh?
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Curry is 6′2″ 250 lbs
Morrison is 6′2″ 240 lbs
if Morrison is undersized to play MLB so is Curry!
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:22 am
another TE in Round 2 would be a wasted pick …
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:23 am
Dakes!!!
His name is Tyrell Sales.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:23 am
Please no TE in the 2nd
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:25 am
RRS,
Why would a 2nd fantastic TE in the 2nd be a wasted pick, when we intend to run two-TE sets? But somehow a 4th young WR in the 1st would be smart? Jared Cook is a better reciever than many of the WR’s in this draft, and he is the kind of large target that would help J-Mac sleep better at night.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:25 am
DMAC Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:20 am
With the 7th overall pick in the 2009 NFL draft the Oakland Raiders select………..?????????
^^^^^^
If Crabtree and A Smith are off the board at #7, then I would like to hear Goodell when the Raiders are up say….
“WE HAVE A TRADE”!
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:26 am
RRS I completely agree we need a TE like we need a hole in our collective heads.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:27 am
Monroe.
They select Monroe.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:27 am
BART Bridge Blues Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:25 am
RRS,
Why would a 2nd fantastic TE in the 2nd be a wasted pick, when we intend to run two-TE sets? But somehow a 4th young WR in the 1st would be smart? Jared Cook is a better reciever than many of the WR’s in this draft, and he is the kind of large target that would help J-Mac sleep better at night.
^^^^^^
If the team wants a 2nd TE, then they can get a solid one in Round 4 if necessary. Not anytime sooner I would hope….
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:28 am
Morrison isn’t undersized but he doesn’t shed blockers well at all. That’s a huge part of playing the middle. He’s very good in coverage and does some things well but is by no means a run stuffer. He needs to be moved outside where he started his career and make room for Maualuga or Brinkley.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:28 am
you guys need to think outside the box a little more. Jared Cook is basically a WR, with the bulk and height of a TE. He is one inch shorter than Ramses Barden, 20 lbs heavier, a bit faster, with a much better vertical leap, WAYYYY better body control and balance, played in the SEC rather than Division II, is younger and has longer arms. So what’s the problem?
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:32 am
I’m a fan of trading back and getting Maualuga. But here’s what I see are the odds of our pick being:
Maclin: 40%
Crabtree: 15%
Curry: 15%
Smith: 10%
Monroe: 10%
DHB: 5%
Other: 5%
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:32 am
We can always re-sign Ben Troupe!
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:33 am
I think everybody is too loyal to Miller because he is our best offensive player, but you have to remember that we are running two-TE sets, and Jared Cook spent most of college playing in the slot. I think if we don’t get Cook, Al will wait until the 4th and grab Anthony Hill, but Jared Cook is a very special athlete, the kind that Al covets every year.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:33 am
Report: Gonzalez Traded To Falcons
Posted by Aaron Wilson on April 23, 2009, 2:30 p.m.
The Kansas City Chiefs have traded Pro Bowl tight end Tony Gonzalez to the Atlanta Falcons in exchange for a second-round draft pick, according to Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com.
This marks the first trade between former New England Patriots colleagues Scott Pioli, the Chiefs’ General Manager, and Thomas Dimitroff, Falcons’ General Manager.
Ironically, Gonzalez rejected a trade to Atlanta last year.
Now, though, the Falcons have an established young quarterback in Matt Ryan.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:33 am
No doubt it would be an intriguing option to grab Cook in the 2nd – barring a WR selection in the 1st.
He would definitely qualify as another weapon for Russell, one of the top goals of the draft.
Cook can line up in the slot, along with McFadden and Higgens, as an option. He can also lineup as a bookend to Miller forcing the defense to play 2 nickles.
I feel that after the Kiffin presser, Al has faith in his young receivers (Higgins, Shilens and possibly Shields) and wants them on the field to develop. A front line WR like Crabtree would impede that.
Al also has a soft spot for Walker who did restructure his deal and may be inspired to rebuild reputation. Although the dude is so aloof it’s impossible to know what his motivations are, if any.
But grabbing Cook could prove to be a wise move in the 2nd regardless of who gets drafted around him. Especially if they are able to sneak an extra pick in the 4th and grab a project like Barden, if he falls that far. He could wait his turn and take a year or two to develop.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:35 am
A good read regarding WR’s being solid or busts!
http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=333250
“We did a study on receivers,” said Eric DeCosta, the Baltimore Ravens’ director of player personnel. “If you’re a junior receiver and you come out, there’s a high bust potential.”
In the last 12 drafts, 40 wide receivers have been selected in the first two rounds. By subjective analysis, eight became exceptional players whereas 17 turned out to be wasted picks.
The list of busts taken with top-10 choices included Troy Williamson and Mike Williams in 2005, Reggie Williams in ‘04, Charles Rogers in ‘03, David Terrell in ‘01, Travis Taylor in ‘00 and David Boston in ‘99.
Among the underclassmen hits were Randy Moss in 1998, Andre Johnson and Anquan Boldin ‘03, Larry Fitzgerald in ‘04, Santonio Holmes in ‘06 and Calvin Johnson in ‘07. However, vice president Tom Modrak of the Buffalo Bills pointed out that Calvin Johnson’s rookie season in Detroit was something less than stellar.
“Just in general terms, receivers are a lot tougher than people think to get into the system quick,” Modrak said. “It always seems so simple to the fan. And with underclassmen it’s magnified.”
From DeCosta’s vantage point, the only receivers without flaws are Crabtree and Ohio State’s Brian Robiskie, the leading senior and a solid second-round choice. DeCosta said he wasn’t worried about Crabtree’s surgery March 4 to repair a stress fracture in his left foot, but others fret not having a confirmed 40-yard dash time.
“That’s part of the whole evaluation process,” an AFC personnel director said. “You think it will be in the 4.5s but you don’t know.”
Eighteen scouts with national perspectives were asked to rank the wide receivers on a 1-to-5 basis, with a first-place vote worth five points, a second-place vote worth four and so on.
Crabtree led with 16 firsts and 86 points, followed by Maclin with 62, Florida’s Percy Harvin with 50, Maryland’s Darrius Heyward-Bey with 36, North Carolina’s Hakeem Nicks with 15, Rutgers’ Kenny Britt with 13, Robiskie with 5½, Louisiana State’s Demetrius Byrd with 2 and Florida’s Louis Murphy with a half.
“As weak as the position was last year, this year it is one of the deeper positions,” former Cleveland general manager Phil Savage said. “You’re going to get a pretty good wide receiver probably in the 20s.”
Then 18 personnel people were asked to name the player they felt had the best chance to bust.
Heyward-Bey led with six votes, followed by Harvin with five, Nicks with 4½, Britt with two and Maclin with a half.
“Look at history,” said Trent Baalke, San Francisco’s director of player personnel. “The underclassmen, that’s why the bust factor is so high. Not always, but a good majority of the time you’ve got a lot of questions to answer.”
Another AFC scouting director was more optimistic. He hailed his top four wide receivers as worthy of top-10 selections, and said the group looked like it might be the best since the all-time first round in 1988 containing Tim Brown, Sterling Sharpe, Michael Irvin and Anthony Miller.
It should be noted, however, that Brown, Sharpe and Miller all were seniors and Irvin played three full seasons for Miami before declaring a year early.
Nicks has been compared to Irvin and Boldin. But maybe he’ll eat his way out of the league, as Boston did.
Heyward-Bey is a big man with blistering speed. Williamson and Rogers, along with underclassmen disappointments like Ashley Lelie and Yatil Green, were very similar.
Britt has the exact same size and speed of Terrell, who flamed out after four years in Chicago.
Harvin is a rare player, a dynamo equally at home running or receiving, but he’s regarded by some teams as a major character risk. Maclin has a propensity for big plays but his base position is just the slot.
“The thing I struggle with on a lot of receivers is character,” said Shemy Schembechler, a scout for the Washington Redskins. “Inherently, some receivers are selfish, and when they don’t get the ball they become inconsistent and frustrated with their production. I learned that with David Terrell.”
The closest to a sure thing among the receivers is tight end Brandon Pettigrew of Oklahoma State, who was compared favorably by several scouts to the young Bubba Franks.
Pettigrew got every first-place vote (for 45 points) from a panel of 15 scouts asked to pick their top three tight ends. South Carolina’s Jared Cook and Southern Mississippi’s Shawn Nelson tied for second with 16 points, followed by Missouri’s Chase Coffman with seven, Wisconsin’s Travis Beckum with four and Florida’s Cornelius Ingram with two.
“It’s really difficult to find (complete) tight ends today because teams don’t run the ball,” an AFC director said
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:35 am
…or we can always give Madsen a call!
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:35 am
Who the heck is Cassell going to throw the rock to?
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:35 am
RaiderRockstar,
Just read the posting about your mom. Be strong for her and give her all your love. Keep making those calls. May the Good Lord be with both of you.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:35 am
Can the kid block????
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:36 am
I don’t get this whole “two TE set” thing. So how often are we going to run this formation, 15% of the time?
Is that worth a draft pick? Can’t we just pick up someone of the waiver wire for this role, or Tony Stewart or Reese? Don’t see why we would draft a TE, with Miller being a pro-bowl level player. Way bigger needs on the team than a 2nd TE.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:36 am
More from the scouts below:
Eighteen scouts with national perspectives were asked to rank the wide receivers on a 1-to-5 basis, with a first-place vote worth five points, a second-place vote worth four and so on.
Crabtree led with 16 firsts and 86 points, followed by Maclin with 62, Florida’s Percy Harvin with 50, Maryland’s Darrius Heyward-Bey with 36, North Carolina’s Hakeem Nicks with 15, Rutgers’ Kenny Britt with 13, Robiskie with 5½, Louisiana State’s Demetrius Byrd with 2 and Florida’s Louis Murphy with a half.
“As weak as the position was last year, this year it is one of the deeper positions,” former Cleveland general manager Phil Savage said. “You’re going to get a pretty good wide receiver probably in the 20s.”
Then 18 personnel people were asked to name the player they felt had the best chance to bust.
Heyward-Bey led with six votes, followed by Harvin with five, Nicks with 4½, Britt with two and Maclin with a half
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:36 am
I like Raji just as much as SnB. but with 5 DTs on the Roster and 2 making big money, I don’t see Al drafting Raji.
Also, Al never Drafted a Player in the top 10 who wasn’t an athletic freak.
Look at our draft history in the top 10:
1- DMC: 6′2, 215, and ran a 4.27 40.
2- JR: 6′6, 270, and has a cannon.
3- Huff: 6′0, 200, and ran a sub 4.4 40.
4- Gallery: one of the best workouts for an OT in years.
5- Charles: 6′1, 205, and ran a sub 4.4 40.
6- D Russell: 6′4, 320, and ran a sub 4.9 40.
I just can’t see Al draftng Raji.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:38 am
CAN WE PLEASE GET THE CRAB!
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:38 am
Vegas,
I agree 100% with #167. Draft a TE in round 2? Now that would be a luxury pick.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:39 am
Come on Sanchez, Crabtree, Curry and Orakpo!!!! I hope you are all top 6 picks!!!!
You too Raji!!!
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:42 am
OK,
So that’s 4 wins for sure, 2 against Denver and 2 against KC.
This season just keeps getting better and better, and the draft is this Sat.
I love it.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:43 am
More from the scouts:
Quote:
“This draft is different than any I’ve seen in 20 years of doing this,” a personnel director for an AFC team said. “There’s one player that is on top of everybody’s board, and that’s (Aaron) Curry. Then you have differences of opinion on the next 30 guys. It’s like everybody has a hole, a flaw.
“If Detroit could they’d pass three or four times because the money is so high on top and there’s not that great value. You might not see any trades in the top 10.”
Another personnel director for a team in the top eight said: “It’s a second- and third-round draft. I would try to move down. I told (the team’s owner) I would try to gamble and get seconds. You can get really good players in the second.”
In late February, New England coach Bill Belichick was jabbed by pundits for accepting Kansas City’s offer of a second-round pick (No. 34) in the trade for quarterback Matt Cassel. It was pointed out that he might have picked up a first-round choice in a three-way deal with other teams if he had waited.
More than likely, Belichick already knew the draft board was weak on top and wanted no part of a salary structure-wrecking high choice. Last year, the average guarantee was $11.9 million for a first-round pick, just $1.9 million for a second-round pick.
Obtaining another cheap second-round pick was the perfect way to go.
“Jake Long had a good year but they paid him more than any tackle that ever played the game,” one scout said. “You really don’t want a top-10 pick. It really hampers you if the guy ends up not being a player. Even if he does, he generally doesn’t become worth that value you have to pay him.”
Take A.J. Hawk. As the No. 5 choice in 2006, Hawk’s guaranteed money totaled $15.59 million. Hawk has played 90% of the defensive downs and at least is near the mid-point of starters playing his position. But knowing Hawk’s average salary per year is higher than their own might have annoyed players such as Charles Woodson, Aaron Kampman and Nick Collins.
Jamal Reynolds (No. 10 in 2001) collected $6.7 million in guaranteed money back when the salary cap was $67 million, not $127 million as it is today. The contract of Justin Harrell (No. 16 in 2007), which contains $6.547 million in guarantees, has locker-room ramifications now and will affect the cap if he ends up being jettisoned.
As Thompson and associates begin final deliberations, they’re looking at a first-round board dominated by unpredictable underclassmen and few game-changers.
This month, the Journal Sentinel surveyed 20 personnel people with a national orientation and asked them to name the best player in the draft.
Curry, the linebacker from Wake Forest, has been built up to be No. 1 since he worked out and interviewed well at the combine. Yet, in a bit of a surprise, the men who know best don’t think he’s the least bit dominating. Depending on the scout, he’s rated about on a par with Hawk coming out.
“He’s not a violent football player,” one personnel man said. “He’s talented. Plays disciplined. But he’s not a first-to-the-pile guy.”
Furthermore, he’s not much of a pass rusher.
Curry did win the poll but by merely a 9-7 margin over Michael Crabtree, the sophomore wide receiver from Texas Tech who remains on crutches after undergoing foot surgery last month.
Four players received one vote: Missouri wide receiver Jeremy Maclin, Southern California middle linebacker Rey Maualuga, Baylor tackle Jason Smith and Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:43 am
Mo,
I am glad that somebody else is seeing the potential of having Jared Cook on our roster. A young QB’s best friend is always a tight end, because they have big bodies, soft hands, and huge reaches. So if we want to help Russell, the best thing for him is another TE with different skills than Miller. I do like Crabtree in the first, but other than that, I agree that any other WR we draft would be 5th string at best, behind three guys that have yet to reach their potential.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:44 am
So we draft Crabtree …
How do you see him being used and how many TDs do you expect from him this year?
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:44 am
We couldn’t even beat either of them twice last year. I think they were just a pathetic then as now.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:45 am
He would be Tim Brown in our offense and he scores 8 to 12 TD’s. That’s how I see it. Not that you were asking me. But, that’s my opinion.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:46 am
Cook or Gilbert in the 2nd round??????
I gotta go with Gilbert!
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:49 am
thanks exla post #165
Gonzo is out of the division? woohoo!
KC drafts Crabtree now?
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:49 am
I really, really like Gilbert, but I don’t think he fits our defense as well as he would a 34. He is too big to play DE and too small to play DT. The kid has mad potential, but I don’t see Al taking a DE who is not a pass-rushing beast.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:51 am
# vegas raider Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:43 am
LMN,
Isn’t Shaun Andrews a mental headcase? Plus I heard he wants a new contract.
For a 3rd it might be fair value, but I would rather throw out a 4th this year, and a 5th next year or something.
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absolutely, or a 6pack =) I dont know about his mental state, but if its true, he should be a raider! =)
Did you see my answer regarding wind energy? or should i repost it?
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:51 am
I don’t get this whole “two TE set” thing. So how often are we going to run this formation, 15% of the time?
Is that worth a draft pick? Can’t we just pick up someone of the waiver wire for this role, or Tony Stewart or Reese? Don’t see why we would draft a TE, with Miller being a pro-bowl level player. Way bigger needs on the team than a 2nd TE.
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couldn’t agree more. also consider Ben Troupe (if healthy) and Darrell Strong
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:51 am
I think he gots what it takes to be a DT for the Oakland Raiders.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:52 am
The Kansas City Chiefs have traded Pro Bowl tight end Tony Gonzalez to the Atlanta Falcons in exchange for a 2010 second-round draft pick, according to Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com.
This marks the first trade between former New England Patriots colleagues Scott Pioli, the Chiefs’ General Manager, and Thomas Dimitroff, the Falcons’ General Manager.
Ironically, the 10-time Pro Bowl selection and five-time All-Pro rejected a trade to Atlanta last year.
Now, though, the Falcons have an established young quarterback in Matt Ryan.
Gonzalez caught 96 passes last season for 1,058 yards and 10 touchdowns.
In a dozen NFL seasons, Gonzalez has caught 916 career passes for 10,940 yards and 76 touchdowns.
UPDATE: The Chiefs have officially confirmed the deal and released statements from Chiefs team owner Clark Hunt and Pioli.
“On behalf of my family and the Chiefs, I want to thank Tony for his time in Kansas City,” Hunt said. “Over the last 12 seasons, Tony has been one of the finest players in Chiefs history, and he will always be remembered as a member of the Chiefs.
“His play on the field speaks for itself – he holds almost every major NFL record for tight ends, and he is arguably the best to ever play his position. We wish him the best in Atlanta.”
Added Pioli: “From an organizational as well as personal standpoint, there are mixed emotions. I have the highest personal and professional respect for Tony and consider him to be a future Pro Football Hall of Famer.”
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:53 am
Is Seattle really going to take Sanchez? That’s the key to the draft,otherwise it’s pretty cut and dry. Crabtree to the Browns especially if they trade Edwards Plus, Stallworth is in big trouble. I’ve heard the Raiders are gun shy on drafting tackles early after Gallery, Stinchcomb and Mo Collins were high picks. Most mocks have us taking Maclin I hope that’s based on Al’s reputation and nothing else.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:54 am
LOL, no gonzales… AFC west is the crappiest division by far now =)
if we get 8 wins we might go to the playoffs =)
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:54 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:06 am
thanks Dakota, Raider O & Henry …
you guys are good dudes
O, I just flew out to CA to see mom last month. kind of a “saying goodbye” type of visit. I used to call her once every 3 weeks. now it’s more like 3 times a week
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Right back at ya RRS.
If 4EVA was awake, he would be there for you also!!
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:56 am
If Ben Troupe or Darrell Strong were adequate then Al would not have brought in 4 TE’s for pred-draft visits this off-season. Cable implied that the power-line Al wants will be a product of running lots of 2-TE sets. That would indicate a lot more than 15% of the snaps. I know it is an unpopular idea, when we already have “The Truth” holding down the edge, but I am just telling you guys not to be dissapointed if Al snags Jared Cook in the 2nd, because he will do way more for J-Russ, than any WR that we might draft in that same spot.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:57 am
Dakota Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:13 am
Let’s talk basketball…
Lakers going all the way baby!!!
Watch out for those Nuggets
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:57 am
BART, while I’m not sure it’s the absolute best scenario to grab Cook in the 2nd (images of Russell to Crabtree keep dancing in my head), I do feel like it could turn out to be a coup for us in the long run. And it’s a Davis style move to make.
Without a doubt Cook would open up our offense and give us more options than a pure wide receiver would.
Cook can line up all over the field – at WR as well – and be the kind of weapon Al envisioned when he went after Teyo. When you have an athelete that versatile, the options are limitless when it comes to mixing and matching formations.
Think of the radical upgrade to our offense if we grab Andre Smith in the 1st and Cook in the 2nd.
My concern is that Cook could be gone before we can get to him. I can see the Lions going after him with that first pick in the 2nd to give Stafford that weapon he needs, especially if they pick up Oher with their second 1st round pick.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:58 am
DE’s and DT’S:
DEFENSIVE ENDS
Name School HT. WT. 40-Yd. Dash Rd.
1. TYSON JACKSON Louisiana State 6-4 296 4.96 1
Ideally suited for DE in a 3-4. “Take him right off the shelf, plug him in and go,” Indianapolis President Bill Polian said. “He’s kind of a power 4-3 end but he’s big enough and tough enough and strong enough to play right end in a 3-4. Johnson has not yet learned to be a beat-you-over-the-head pass rusher. He tries to dance around people, which probably isn’t his strength. But if he gets a good coach, they’ll remake him a little bit as a rusher.” Started 38 of 53 games, finishing with 18½ sacks and 122 tackles (27 for loss). “I’d take him over any D-lineman,” one scout said. “This guy is a physical presence. Long arms. He’s a beast against the run. As a pass-rusher, he’ll get pressure. He’s a perfect left end, and then when you move him inside (on nickel) he could make a killing in there.” Raised some eyebrows by bench-pressing 225 pounds only 20 times. “He’s not a dominating defensive lineman,” another scout said. “He uses his hands pretty well. The only thing I don’t like about him is he is a little stiff.” Scored 16 on the 50-question Wonderlic intelligence test.
2. AARON MAYBIN Penn State 6-4 250 4.73 1
Just a third-year sophomore. Redshirted in 2006, backed up in ‘07 and wasn’t starting in ‘08 until Maurice Evans was suspended after three games. “He plays hard but he’s not experienced,” Baltimore personnel director Eric DeCosta said. “He’s raw with a lot of his techniques. He’s not physically as mature strength-wise. He’s undeveloped.” Finished ‘08 with 12 sacks, giving him 16 in two seasons. “His first three steps are like Jevon Kearse,” one scout said. “The closest I’ve seen to Kearse. He doesn’t run as well as Derrick Thomas. But he’s not real heavy in there and his weight gain in a short period of times scares me a little bit.” Played the Rose Bowl at 226, then was 250 at the combine. Classy individual with 25 on the Wonderlic. “He’s a player that will be reckoned with,” Arizona scout Jerry Hardaway said. “You’ve got to get him stronger. Sometimes you see him all out, sometimes he isn’t. Athletically, he’ll fit a 3-4 or a 4-3. He could be as good as he wants to be.” Vertical jump of 40 inches.
3. ROBERT AYERS Tennessee 6-3 272 4.80 1
Played three years in a rotation before becoming a starter in ‘08. “The other (hybrids) have a chance to be great rushers,” one scout said. “But of the DE’s he’s the one guy with a chance to be a really good run-down player and have some pass rush. He’s strong, heavy and a tough guy.” Played end but is being considered for LB by 3-4 teams. “He’s like (LaMarr) Woodley in a lot of ways,” another scout said. “I don’t know if he has great speed but he has great quickness. He played really well against (Alabama’s) Andre Smith.” Finished with nine sacks and 113 tackles (31½ for loss) in 48 games (14 starts). “One year-production but really, really talented,” a third scout said. “To me, Ayers and (Brian) Orakpo are the two most talented guys but they have holes in their game based on production and competitiveness game to game.” Wonderlic of 25.
4. EVERETTE BROWN Florida State 6-1 1/2 256 4.66 1-2
Latest in the Seminoles’ list of speed rushers, including Jamal Reynolds. “If Green Bay takes him, it might be the same thing all over again,” one scout said. “If he gets on the edges he can be effective. But small and weak against the run. Plays small. He’s not a bull rush.” Two-year starter with 23 sacks and 100 tackles (46½ for loss); Reynolds had 23½ sacks. “Reynolds was more finesse,” former Cleveland GM Phil Savage said. “Everette Brown is probably a little more physical. The thing with Brown, he is tough and he will compete. I don’t see him as an outside linebacker. To me, he’s more of an end in a 4-3.” Fourth-year junior with 21 on the Wonderlic. “Those FSU guys have been notorious for being one-dimensional because of the way they’re coached by (25th-year defensive coordinator) Mickey Andrews,” another scout said. “Just go sic ‘em. If they get stalemated, they’re nullified. Big linemen are going to get their hands on him and it’s going to be over.”
5. MICHAEL JOHNSON Georgia Tech 6-7 266 4.69 1-2
“Athletically, you watch him hurdling guys, you say, ‘What the hell was that?’ one scout said. “He can do whatever he wants. But he disappears.” Reminded one scout of Jason Taylor but didn’t become a starter until ‘08, backing up somebody named Adamm Oliver. “When I did him I kept getting madder and madder,” another scout said. “It’s not as important to him as it should be. But I think he has the most potential.” In 49 games (15 starts), he had 19 sacks, 107 tackles (30½ for loss) and forced 10 fumbles. “He’s first round in flashes,” a third scout said. “He’s got the ostrich-like neck and the long limbs and all that. There’s a lot there that scares me.” Wonderlic of 27 and vertical jump of 38½.
6. CONNOR BARWIN Cincinnati 6-4 253 4.58 2
Played TE until ‘08, catching 31 passes as a junior. “I don’t think they liked him as a blocker,” one scout said. “It’s amazing. As a defensive player he plays his (butt) off but as a blocker he wasn’t very good.” Played DE as a senior, posted 11 sacks and blew out the combine with a vertical jump of 40½. “He’s not Kyle Vanden Bosch but he has the potential to be,” Hardaway said. “Everybody’s talking about him. He is athletic. But if he was such a great rush end they’d have played him there. The coaches at Cincinnati are smart and want to eat, too.” Also played 41 games for the Bearcats’ basketball team in two seasons, scoring 45 points. “I’ve seen him do stand-up drills and he moves around well,” Seattle scout Charles Fisher said. “He’s just not strong or built big enough to be an every-down end. I’m not quite sure he won’t be a tight end. He shows burst and has good hands.”
7. PAUL KRUGER Utah 6-4 1/2 261 4.82 2
Spent two years on a Mormon mission and played two seasons, finishing with 10½ sacks and 124 tackles (24 for loss). “His speed bothers me,” Polian said. “But he will play, and play well. He will be like Chris Kelsay in Buffalo.” Underwent four hours of emergency surgery in January 2008 after being stabbed in the stomach when a gang jumped him and some friends. “If Michael Johnson had this kid’s motor, he’d be a bear,” one scout said. “He’s like the kid for the Titans, Vanden Bosch. He’s relentless.” More of an effort rusher. High-character player with 25 on the Wonderlic. “I think he’s going to get big,” DeCosta said. “He’s going to be 280-285 and be an (Aaron) Kampman guy. You build him up and he ends up being good for you.”
8. LAWRENCE SIDBURY Richmond 6-2 1/2 265 4.56 3
Made a name for himself with four sacks in the FCS championship game against Montana and with an impressive combine. “He played down but I think he’s a 3-4 outside backer,” St. Louis VP Tony Softli said. “He runs well enough. He holds the point. He plays well with his hands. He’s got good chase. But a lot of people will put his hand in the dirt and try to rush him, and he can do that, too.” Finished with 20½ sacks and 145 tackles (38 for loss) in 52 games (31 starts). “But his temperament is the thing that worries me,” one scout said. “There ain’t no fight. You want a guy with a lot more tenacity and consistency. Do like the kid.” Has long arms (35 5/8 ) and scored 22 on the Wonderlic.
9. DAVID VEIKUNE Hawaii 6-2 257 4.79 3-4
Redshirted at Colorado in ‘04, spent a year at a junior college and then three years for the Rainbow Warriors, finally starting in ‘08. “Great, great effort,” one scout said. “He has natural rush skills. A pursuit-effort player.” Finished with 18 sacks and 118 tackles (28 for loss). “I like him,” another scout said. “Hard player. Not as flexible on the corner as you want. Smart (20 on the Wonderlic), tough, versatile. He’s not a true 4-3 end or a true 4-3 backer. I think he’s a 3-4 player.”
10. KYLE MOORE Southern California 6-5 272 4.84 4
Started at RE in 2007 and ‘08. “Good athlete but a little bit undersized,” Tennessee national supervisor C.O. Brocato said. “I don’t think he can bulk up. That worries me. They moved him down inside some but he’s more of an outside rush type guy.” In 50 games (24 starts), he had seven sacks and 76 tackles (13 for loss). Has the frame and long arms that 3-4 teams seek for DE if he can gain 20 solid pounds. “He could do it,” one scout said. “He lacks some strength but he’s a big body guy.”
OTHERS: Henry Melton, Texas; Brandon Williams, Texas Tech; Matt Shaughnessy, Wisconsin; Zach Potter, Nebraska; Maurice Evans, Penn State; Will Davis, Illinois; Michael Bennett, Texas A&M; Pannel Egboh, Stanford; Stryker Sulak, Missouri; Orion Martin, Virginia Tech.
DEFENSIVE TACKLES
Name School HT. WT. 40-Yd. Dash Rd.
1. B.J. RAJI Boston College 6-1 1/2 330 5.15 1
Started 37 of 49 games, finishing with 12½ sacks and 105 tackles (32½ for loss). “He’s got special to him,” Chicago GM Jerry Angelo said. “He’s probably better than (Vince) Wilfork because Wilfork was kind of fat. This kid is not fat. He’s big, like (Haloti) Ngata. And he’s really good. Quickness. Explosion. Nothing not to like.” Scored 21 on the Wonderlic but was declared academically ineligible in ‘07. “He’s going to have to get his stuff together,” Softli said. “It’s about growing up. Do you want to make some money and play in the league? Or do you want to sit back and be happy? He’ll figure it out.” Son of Pentecostal pastors. “It’s not like he’s this shoo-in to be this dominant player,” one scout said. “No way is he as good as Ngata. You couldn’t move Ngata. This guy, you can see him get rolled up at times. You can see him have trouble with the double team. He has skill, but he doesn’t have the combativeness that the real good ones have. He wasn’t consistently dominant vs. the ACC, a league that historically doesn’t put out a bunch of NFL-caliber linemen.” Had 33 reps on the bench press. “He’s really a soft-body guy,” another scout said. “He’s a bright guy and I like him personally, but as he gets older he’s going to have some big problems (with his body). Raji will have a weight problem.”
2. PERIA JERRY Mississippi 6-2 295 4.98 1
A 3-technique in a 4-3 or a DE in a 3-4. He is not a NT. “Real active,” one scout said. “Quick. Explosive. Plays hard. Been hurt a lot. Worrisome. Not a smart guy (10 on the Wonderlic).” Came out of a tough background in rural Mississippi (Batesville). “He’s married and has two kids,” another scout said. “No off-field problems. Tough, intense, focused. All business. Football was the reason he was in school. He just learns OK.” Finished with 12½ sacks and 132 tackles (37 for loss) in 38 games (29 starts). “They liked him there (Ole Miss),” a third scout said. “Leader. Captain. Quiet. Good worker.” Not nearly as stout as Raji but plays harder and is more athletic than Ziggy Hood. “He wins with determination,” a fourth scout said.
3. EVANDER “ZIGGY” HOOD Missouri 6-3 299 4.88 1-2
Labeled as an “underachiever” by one scout and as a “finesse player” by another. “He gets after people,” San Diego GM A.J. Smith said. “Strong. Got a little quickness to him.” Some scouts criticized him for excessive use of a spin move as a rusher. “He does have (pass rush) because he has good get-off,” Washington scout Shemy Schembechler said. “He’s stiff in the hips but plays hard. I love his motor. He will need polishing as a pass rusher. Runs well. For God’s sake, he broke 5.0.” Finished with 15½ sacks and 170 tackles (22½ for loss) in 50 games (35 starts). Not a power player. “He’s the bell cow of that whole team,” one scout said. “He’s everything you want as far as a leader. The guys really follow him.”
4. JARRON GILBERT San Jose State 6-5 286 4.82 2
“A workout warrior,” according to Polian. Said Softli: “There were four, five games where he looked very, very good. Then there’s a couple where you’re going, ‘What’s ” Gifted athlete with a 37-inch vertical jump and extremely long going on here?’ arms (36¾). “But it’s not a beauty contest,” one scout said. “He doesn’t do it all the time. He’s got all the ability. What makes you think he’s going to do it at the next level where the competition is 50 steps higher?” Finished with 21½ sacks and 144 tackles (42 for loss) in 48 games (38 starts). His father, Daren, was a backup tackle for New Orleans from 1985-’88. Wonderlic of 29. “I wrote him up as an offensive tackle because he’s got good feet and movement,” another scout said. “He kind of just stands and watches. But he’s got long arms and big hands (10¾) and runs fast.” Projected mostly as a 3-4 DE or a 4-3 3-technique.
5. FILI MOALA Southern California 6-4 301 5.11 2-3
“Little bit like Tyson Jackson,” one scout said. “Little stiff. He’s a 5-technique (3-4 DE), not a nose. Or a 4-3 guy.” His father, Fili Sr., was a heavyweight boxer who fought Ron Lyle in 1979. “He’s got initial quick, then he’s straight up and watches,” another scout said. “They get all excited with the initial quick. He plays too high.” Started three seasons as DT on the weak side, finishing with 9½ sacks and 90 tackles (23½ for loss) on a star-studded defense. “He’s pretty athletic, has good feet and has some quickness,” Buffalo VP Tom Modrak said. “He gets away with being upright some because he’s got good feet. If you could ever get him to keep his pad level down he’s not a bad player.”
6. RON BRACE Boston College 6-3 331 5.51 3
Started for two of the last three years alongside Raji. “He’s a terrific nose tackle,” Polian said. “He’s 330 pounds. You put him on the nose and he’ll beat the living daylights out of the center.” Smart (24 on the Wonderlic), spent ‘08 in graduate school and is active in the arts as a participant. “He’s a very difficult guy to block,” one scout said. “He’s very strong. But your nose has to be able to get in the A gap every so often and penetrate and force the quarterback out of the pocket. This guy doesn’t get off the line of scrimmage and he runs 5.5.” Finished with 5½ sacks and 85 tackles (23 for loss) in 49 games (40 starts).
7. SEN’DERRICK MARKS Auburn 6-1 1/2 303 5.06 3-4
Fourth-year junior. “He fits the Tampa and Indy schemes,” Tennessee scouting coordinator Blake Beddingfield said. Both teams prefer smaller linemen with the speed to fire into gaps. “Very, very quick but not real physical,” one scout said. Finished with 7½ sacks and 114 tackles (30 for loss) in 40 games (37 starts). “He’s got a little athletic ability but he’s not fast enough to beat anybody and he doesn’t play with great strength,” another scout said. “He was hurt most of the year, too.” Played on two bad ankles.
8. ALEX MAGEE Purdue 6-2 1/2 286 4.82 3-4
Started at DT in 2006-’07 before moving to DE in ‘08. “He doesn’t have that outside speed rush in a 4-3,” one scout said. “But you go back to last year and you could see his athleticism. He’s a different cat in there. He is quick.” Best-suited for DE in a 3-4 or 3-technique in a 4-3. “Probably more disruptive in the running game than the passing game,” Angelo said. Finished with six sacks and 117 tackles (14 for loss) in 50 games (33 starts). “I never saw him as a real tough guy,” another scout said. “Little too much of a pass rusher’s mentality. He’s got talent, though. But he plays too high and his hands are sloppy.
9. DORELL SCOTT Clemson 6-3 314 4.94 4-5
Three-year starter at NT but probably projects best as a 3-4 DE. “He doesn’t have the classic build and is a little knock-kneed,” Savage said. “He does have some explosiveness. If you wanted just a blood-and-guts guy, yeah, he could do that.” Started 38 of 47 games, finishing with nine sacks and 161 tackles (18½ for loss). “Underachiever,” one scout said. “Doesn’t move very well. He flashes stoutness.”
10. ROY MILLER Texas 6-1 1/2 312 4.97 4-5
Major-college sleeper who didn’t become a starter until ‘08. “He wasn’t a name going into the year but he’s a good player,” one scout said. “More of a nose. He’s powerful.” Never-say-die mentality. Led the top DTs on the bench press with 36 reps. “Tough little football player,” another scout said. “I don’t think he’s stout enough to be a nose. He’s more like for a Tony Dungy type defense, teams that want a quick guy getting upfield.” Had 10 sacks and 138 tackles (25 for loss) in 49 games (19 starts)
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:58 am
I still think KC drafts defense i.e. Curry. How curry fits into the 3-4 I don’t know.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:01 pm
onceuponatimeinthewest Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:52 am
The Kansas City Chiefs have traded Pro Bowl tight end Tony Gonzalez to the Atlanta Falcons in exchange for a 2010 second-round draft pick, according to Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com.
This marks the first trade between former New England Patriots colleagues Scott Pioli, the Chiefs’ General Manager, and Thomas Dimitroff, the Falcons’ General Manager.
Ironically, the 10-time Pro Bowl selection and five-time All-Pro rejected a trade to Atlanta last year.
Now, though, the Falcons have an established young quarterback in Matt Ryan.
Gonzalez caught 96 passes last season for 1,058 yards and 10 touchdowns.
In a dozen NFL seasons, Gonzalez has caught 916 career passes for 10,940 yards and 76 touchdowns.
UPDATE: The Chiefs have officially confirmed the deal and released statements from Chiefs team owner Clark Hunt and Pioli.
“On behalf of my family and the Chiefs, I want to thank Tony for his time in Kansas City,” Hunt said. “Over the last 12 seasons, Tony has been one of the finest players in Chiefs history, and he will always be remembered as a member of the Chiefs.
“His play on the field speaks for itself – he holds almost every major NFL record for tight ends, and he is arguably the best to ever play his position. We wish him the best in Atlanta.”
Added Pioli: “From an organizational as well as personal standpoint, there are mixed emotions. I have the highest personal and professional respect for Tony and consider him to be a future Pro Football Hall of Famer.”
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Wow….the queefs didn’t even get a pick in this years draft for Gonzo??
Dumb move by the Chefs and good for the Raiders! LOL
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:02 pm
LMN,
Please re-post, got lost in the shuffle somehow.
I just read about Andrews and his “mental instability” on pft this morning.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Mo,
I am also thinking that the Chiefs would take Cook, now that Gonzales is gone. It would be lucky if he fell to us, but I really feel like that 2nd pick is realistically gonna be between Michael Johnson and Jared Cook.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:03 pm
With Gonzo out of the west, theres a strong possibility that Curry might land w/ us at 7.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:03 pm
I like Ziggy Hood as a sleeper too bad we only have 5 picks.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:06 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:28 am
you guys need to think outside the box a little more. Jared Cook is basically a WR, with the bulk and height of a TE. He is one inch shorter than Ramses Barden, 20 lbs heavier, a bit faster, with a much better vertical leap, WAYYYY better body control and balance, played in the SEC rather than Division II, is younger and has longer arms. So what’s the problem?
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So would Cook play the slot? Can he run WR type of routes?
If the Raiders are interested, then they should definitely TRADE DOWN!
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:07 pm
I really feel like that 2nd pick is realistically gonna be between Michael Johnson and Jared Cook.
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I hope it comes down to Meredith, Loadholt or Brace
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:09 pm
DMAC Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:03 pm
With Gonzo out of the west, theres a strong possibility that Curry might land w/ us at 7.
^^^^^
Elaborate….
The key for us to have a shot at Crabtree is if the Sanchez is picked by Seattle and then Browns would most likely look at Curry hard.
Will the chefs take Curry, Monroe or Crabtree??
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:09 pm
RRS,
Oops I knew I was forgetting something. 2nd pick:
Meredith, Johnson, Cook and maybe Gilbert if the Raiders think he can play DT for us.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:10 pm
…and William Beatty!!
Meredith, Beatty, Johnson, Cook, Gilbert
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:10 pm
BBB -
on defense DE, DT, OLB and SS are needs
on offense OT & WR are needs
we already have 6 needs and only 5 picks. using one of those picks on a TE (especially a high draft pick) would not allow us to fill more important roles.
what 2 positions on the above list would you cast out to get us a 2nd TE?
OT & WR?
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:10 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:49 am
sorry to hear that Raider O. my mom has breast cancer and will likely be gone in another month or two (best case scenario). tough to lose a loved one. all my grandparents have passed
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RaiderRockstar, I am not a very relougious man, but I will say a prayer for you and yours tonight.
O, your father will never leave you. Make him proud. He is watching.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Out of those DEs I like Johnson, Barwin and Kruger.
Out of the DTs I like Brace, Scott and maybe Moala.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Chiefs jump all over Crabtree now
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:56 am
If Ben Troupe or Darrell Strong were adequate then Al would not have brought in 4 TE’s for pred-draft visits this off-season. Cable implied that the power-line Al wants will be a product of running lots of 2-TE sets. That would indicate a lot more than 15% of the snaps. I know it is an unpopular idea, when we already have “The Truth” holding down the edge, but I am just telling you guys not to be dissapointed if Al snags Jared Cook in the 2nd, because he will do way more for J-Russ, than any WR that we might draft in that same spot.
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Peti grew… and Mack in the second.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Thx Raccoon.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:15 pm
ILB’s…..like what they say about Rey Rey…
INSIDE LINEBACKERS
Name School HT. WT. 40-Yd. Dash Rd.
1. AARON CURRY Wake Forest 6-2 255 4.55 1
“Just a good player,” Tennessee scouting coordinator Blake Beddingfield said. “Very smart (24 on the 50-question Wonderlic intelligence test). One of those guys who will play seven, eight years and you’ll be very happy with him.” Started on the strong side for four years but probably can play any LB position in any scheme. “He is the finished product,” Indianapolis President Bill Polian said. “I don’t know if he’s a make-something-happen player but he’s certainly a very, very, very good player.” Finished with 332 tackles (45½ for loss), 9½ sacks and 14 turnover plays (interceptions, forced fumbles and recovered fumbles). “If they don’t rush the passer they’ve got to be really special,” Chicago GM Jerry Angelo said. “If you go back 20 years or more, there were only two prolific linebackers, (Brian) Urlacher and Ray Lewis, that didn’t rush the passer. When you look at linebackers, you pay the pass rushers.” One scout said he would rate A.J. Hawk higher coming out. “Don’t get me wrong,” another scout said. “Curry’s talented. Played disciplined. He’s safe. But he’s not a violent football player.”
2. REY MAUALUGA Southern California 6-1 1/2 249 4.75 1
Might be the hardest hitter in the draft. “He’s one of the few guys who can stack a guard in the hole and stalemate (him) right there and win,” San Francisco personnel director Trent Baalke said. “When you look at linebacker play, one of the things that all the real good ones had in common was they changed the tempo of the game. What did (Dick) Butkus and all the others do? When they got on the field they played with some (expletive) and hit you. Rey plays the game like the old-school guys played it.” Three-year starter in the middle with 273 tackles (22½ for loss), nine sacks and 10 turnover plays. “He’s not what he’s cracked up to be,” one scout said. “His value really is more as a pass cover guy than a killer middle linebacker. I see him having problems on first down. He misses a lot of tackles and doesn’t have a lot of punch. Nooooo, I know he’s not (Ray) Nitschke.” Had some off-field scrapes but seems to have matured. Wonderlic of 15. Compared by some scouts to Junior Seau, who also played a rather helter-skelter game. “If you make it real structured for him, it’s going to be tough,” Buffalo VP Tom Modrak said. “He runs under, over, around, all that kind of stuff. Sometimes that will drive people crazy. He’s got to be a let-it-rip kind of guy.”
3. BRIAN CUSHING Southern California 6-3 243 4.68 1
Started at RE in a 3-4 as a sophomore but played SLB the last two seasons in more of a 4-3 scheme. “He’s a Jersey boy and a tough guy,” St. Louis VP Tony Softli said. “Throwback. He has something you can’t teach. That’s heart and pedigree.” Finished with 178 tackles (27 for loss), 8½ sacks and seven turnover plays. “He’s a big, swollen-looking guy but a pretty good athlete for his size,” one scout said. “Gets exposed some in space but he can run. Little stiff.” Almost fanatic in his workout regimen. Has missed several games due to injury; reportedly has undergone four operations. “He’s a multiple position guy and he’s a tough sucker,” Modrak said. “He’s going to be good. I like everything about him except he’s had some nicks. I worry about that. Some guys get too big for their body.” Wonderlic of 23.
4. JAMES LAURINAITIS Ohio State 6-2 242 4.77 1-2
Three-year starter and two-time Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year. “A.J. Hawk is so much more of a talented athlete,” Washington scout Shemy Schembechler said. “Laurinaitis outdoes Hawk in every intangible quality you can think of. He’s a great leader. (Chris Spielman) is a good comparison. Laurinaitis isn’t a great take-on guy. He’s a get-you-down guy. Very smart (24 on the Wonderlic).” Finished with 375 tackles (24½ for loss), 13 sacks and 14 turnover plays. Hawk, also a three-year starter, had 394 stops, 14 sacks and 12 turnover plays. “He is not as athletically explosive as Hawk,” Seattle scout Charles Fisher said. “But the ball is snapped and he knows where it’s going, where to go and how to get there.” His father, Joe, was the pro wrestler named “Animal” in the tag team known as Legion of Doom. Played at Plymouth Wayzata (Minn.) High School. “He’s overrated, has been since his freshman year,” one scout said. “He makes plays but he’s not dynamic. He needs to be unblocked to make a play and that doesn’t happen in the NFL very much.”
5. SCOTT McKILLOP Pittsburgh 6-1 245 4.72 2-3
Two-year starter in the middle. “He might have the same type of career as Laurinaitis,” one scout said. “He’s a limited athlete but no more limited than James Laurinaitis. The kid is tough and smart (21 on the Wonderlic). I’d say McKillop has more pop than Laurinaitis.” Finished with 345 tackles (28½ for loss), eight sacks and eight turnover plays. “Sure tackler,” another scout said. “Very, very tough guy. Good nose for the ball. Gets busted up because he does have a good nose for the ball. The only problem is, I don’t know if he can be a three-down linebacker.”
6. JASON PHILLIPS Texas Christian 6-1 239 4.64 3
Son of a high-school football coach. “He’s one of the better guys in terms of being able to run sideline to sideline making a ton of plays,” Baltimore personnel director Eric DeCosta said. “He’s around the football all the time. Very smart guy (24 on the Wonderlic).” Finished with 315 tackles (38 for loss), 7½ sacks and three turnover plays. Suffered torn knee cartilage at the combine and isn’t quite ready. “Yeah, he’s tough,” Tennessee national supervisor C.O. Brocato said. “I just wish he used his hands a little bit better. He uses his shoulders and butts on people instead of trying to use his hands. He will be a heck of a special-teams player and he can learn how to play linebacker.”
7. DARRY BECKWITH Louisana State 6-0 234 4.72 3-4
Weak-side starter in ‘06 before moving to MLB in ‘07 and ‘08. “Not very physical,” one scout said. “But he’s a very good kid. Smart football player. Just not a physical guy.” Has had a lot of knee problems, too. “I didn’t think he was as good a player as he was an athlete,” another scout said. “He will hustle. Just an average tackler. Doesn’t take on very well. Gets caught on blocks. Average instincts.” Finished with 189 tackles (11½) for loss, 4½ sacks and three turnover plays.
8. JASPER BRINKLEY South Carolina 6-1 1/2 249 4.69 4
“He’s huge,” one scout said. “He kind of fits the 3-4 just because he’s a big man. Limited athlete. Little slow.” Spent two seasons at Georgia Military College and three seasons with the Gamecocks, starting the last two. “I think he’s mechanical,” another scout said. “He lacks quick twitch. He doesn’t shed blockers real well, which is probably the most important thing.” Finished with 193 tackles (20½ for . . loss), 7½ sacks and five turnover plays. “If you want a middle linebacker . that’s all he’s going to be,” a third scout said. “They did use him as a pass rusher on passing downs but he was just a guy. A good college player.”
9. DANNELL ELLERBE Georgia 6-1 237 4.66 4
Two-year starter, mostly in the middle. “He’s got good toughness, but he’s got some flaws,” one scout said. “He’s got some explosion and some short-area snap. Character needs to be investigated with him.” In ‘06, he was arrested for drunken driving and giving police false information, leading to a three-game suspension. “He’s certainly not what (ex-Bulldog LB) Odell Thurman was but there are some character issues that people will have to decide if they want,” another scout said. “But he is fast and explosive.” Finished with 148 tackles (21 for loss), 8½ sacks and six turnover plays. “He will hit you but he doesn’t wrap,” a third scout said. “He doesn’t have strength. I wouldn’t have him on my team.”
10. ZACH FOLLETT California 6-2 238 4.72 4-5
Played behind MLB Desmond Bishop in ‘05, started at WLB in ‘06 and then at SLB in ‘07 and ‘08. “He’s tough enough,” one scout said. “There’s no special quality.” Registered 13 forced fumbles, third in Pacific 10 annals. Also had 245 tackles (51 for loss), 23½ sacks and 17 turnover plays in total. “He’s tight-hipped,” another scout said. Added a third: “He’s versatile. Played a little outside and inside. Also played as a rush end.”
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:16 pm
DMAC Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Chiefs jump all over Crabtree now
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Yeah, that wouldn’t surprise me either….
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:17 pm
No doubt the Chefs would be players for Cook with the Gonzalez trade. Cook is the kind of player Al would move up for as well, I can see him packaging our 2nd and 5th or 6th next year to move up 7 or 8 slots to get him.
Bottom line, Nation – do not be surprised if Cook is still on the board to see Al call his #.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Dakota,
Correction. lol
We want man boobs guy,
Man boobs guy
Man boobs guy
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:19 pm
What do you think of Zack Follett in the later rounds??
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:20 pm
# Moose Says:
April 22nd, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Hackett`s better than Filippino
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HwnRdr & exLA…
^^^^^^^^it was just me trying to be funny….
I assume he was talking about John Defelippo……
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:20 pm
LOL @ Raider O
nobody wants man boobs …
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:20 pm
NO MORE TONY GONZALES IN THE AFC WEST! ONE MORE THING THAT MIGHT HELP THE RAIDER WIN THE DIVISION!
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Can curry fall to the 7th, you think the Browns could pass on him?
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Thx Raccoon.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
RR,
Right? lol
That’s why I had to correct myself.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:23 pm
the brownies take curry, raji or orakpo
pretty sure they go defense.
pretty sure KC goes offense with an OT to protect Cassel. he was sacked alot in New England. imagine what it’d be like behind KC’s line!
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Thinking about Seattle’s needs CB really is there biggest one . Jenkins ?
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:23 pm
RRS,
Would it help if I just called Jared Cook a WR? Just pretend that he is a 6′-5″ WR that weighs 246 pounds, runs a 4.50 40, has 35″ long arms and a 41″ vertical leap, that tore up the SEC. Now, can you see why Al might want a WR like that in the 2nd if Crabtree is not there for us in the 1st. Cook spent a lot of his college snaps in the slot and even split out wide.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:24 pm
LOL @ post #222
moobies!
does the Raider Image make bras that big?
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:25 pm
So if KC passes on Curry, can we get him.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Thanks Dakota . I didn’t need to see that.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:27 pm
BBB – I must admit i’d rather have Cook than Robiskie or DHB in Round 2 …
this scenario reminds me of when the Redskins drafted Fred Davis out of USC last year when they already had Chris Cooley on the roster. how’d that work out?
so you eliminate WR and what other position? sounds like you want an OT so it must be defense
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Dakota,
I can’t help myself, I looked at the link again. lol
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Dakota: there are probably children present
let’s keep it clean. LOL
that A. Smith pic was DIRTY
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:29 pm
RRS,
1. LT
2. Jared Cook
3. DE
4. Safety
5 or 6 in a trade. DT
7. LB
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Curry is a lock for KC. They already have Bowe at receiver.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:30 pm
DAKOTA-
NOW THOSE ARE SOME MAN BOOBS! LOL
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Don’t be surprised if KC and the Donks get involved together during the draft as they are “family” now, just as apparently are the Falcons.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Give me DHB or M Johnson at 40, and I will be happy.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:30 pm
If we do draft Smith they should make him play shirtless.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:32 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:24 pm
LOL @ post #222
moobies!
does the Raider Image make bras that big?
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Bwahahahhaha too funny both the Moobies and the raider image thing =)
I would assume there was a great market for man-bras, at least many americans could use those
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
These mock drafts are a joke and a complete waste of time. Go for a walk or read a good book, but don’t wast your life on this garbage. One trade in the top five changes the rest of the draft.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Guys, guys!
A WR who is 6′2 210. And ran a 4.30 40.
And
A DE who is 6′7 265, and ran a 4.49 at his pro day.
I don’t care if they have a high bust factor, at 40th do you really care? Look at their potential.
I’ll take one of these 2 at 40th.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
These mock drafts are a joke and a complete waste of time. Go for a walk or read a good book, but don’t wast your life on this garbage. One trade in the top five changes the rest of the draft
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absolutely!
Im reading….
http://www.amazon.com/Lemprieres-Dictionary-Lawrence-Norfolk/dp/0802139876/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1240515548&sr=8-1
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
These mock drafts are a joke and a complete waste of time.
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Don’t know about you, but that’s why I am in here, I’m trying to waste time!!!
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:39 pm
I think none of these teams really want to pay out huge signing bonuses to unproven athletes that haven’t played at the pro level. A rookie salary cap is coming too bad its not this year.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
well said Vegas! If I had the ability to read a book or go for a walk at 12:45pm on a Thursday I most certainly would not be in here. Just killing time between tasks at work.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/23/delhomme-gets-extension/ WOW i think we got a great deal for J-ROC
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Wow Shaky Jakey got $20 million guaranteed? Did the GM miss the playoff game, or our game with them last year. Any QB who can throw 4+ interceptions in a game twice over a few months span is not worth that kind of loot.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:51 pm
R8rpaver,
perhaps the Panthers have siphoned off some “bail-out” money from the feds. Either that or they simply are effing nuts!
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:56 pm
vegas raider Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Wow Shaky Jakey got $20 million guaranteed? Did the GM miss the playoff game, or our game with them last year. Any QB who can throw 4+ interceptions in a game twice over a few months span is not worth that kind of loot.
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Wow! Giving him that much after his terrible 2nd half of the season last year?
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:57 pm
YES! My team won again, we still keep up pace with #1
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Who is J-ROC??
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:59 pm
dude…
dunno, some bad rapper?
April 23rd, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Jake Delhomme surpassed 3000 yards passing in 4 out of 6 seasons with the Panthers. The other 2 years were shortened due to injury. 4 out of 6 seasons he also threw at least 11 INT’s …
Only 2 of those 6 seasons has he thrown for 20 TD’s or more
He’s never had a QB Rating over 88 when starting 16 games in a season
He’s 34 years old. He’ll never last in the NFL 5 more years!
Panthers were just trying to clear some cap space. Peppers wouldn’t help them out and sign a long term deal.
I heard they are trying to sign JP Losman to be Delhomme’s backup. Don’t you feel sorry for Josh McCown? poor guy is never gonna get a shot in Carolina
April 23rd, 2009 at 1:03 pm
J-Rock, JaBling, J Money, JaDoughnut, JaWalrus
we’ve heard it all …
April 23rd, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Lynn why are you always so smart an or dead on about things?
Anyways I think Al Davis was one of the first people to bring this thing to light (rookie salary cap) just like he invented mini camps drafting AA QB’s hiring an AA coach etc.
Al the pioneer!!!
AA = African American
April 23rd, 2009 at 1:08 pm
…JaMarcusuarus Rex, JR Ewing, JaCosby Sweater, The B2 Bomber…
April 23rd, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Dknight,
My 3 legger didn’t turn out so well. Oh well….light day today, will ratchet it up a notch for the weekend.
I would have thought that Panthers were a good candidate to go after the Freeman kid. Jake for 5 more years??? Even if it is only two more, seems like they were bidding against themselves on that one.
April 23rd, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Its Russell? Where does the ROC part come from? J-Roc. Maybe the stupidest nickname of all time.
April 23rd, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Man it’s only 2:13? Time seems to have slowed down this afternoon.
wake me for the draft
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
April 23rd, 2009 at 1:15 pm
From Niners GM:
McCloughan thinks this draft will be very interesting in terms of when the top two quarterbacks and top three offensive tackles come off the board. Those five guys likely will be gone by the 49ers’ pick, but if just one of them is around, look for either the 49ers to take him or someone will trade up to do so.
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Someone will want to trade up for Oher and the Raiders may have a solid opportunity to move down if all the OT’s are off the board except for him at 7.
April 23rd, 2009 at 1:18 pm
vegas raider Says:
April 23rd, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Dknight,
My 3 legger didn’t turn out so well. Oh well….light day today, will ratchet it up a notch for the weekend.
I would have thought that Panthers were a good candidate to go after the Freeman kid. Jake for 5 more years??? Even if it is only two more, seems like they were bidding against themselves on that one.
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Get em in the next ones!
I will look into NBA playoffs tonight….possibly.
April 23rd, 2009 at 1:19 pm
HEY EVERYONE!!! New Thread…Man Boobs for the 1st 10 comments…come get your man boobs haha.
April 23rd, 2009 at 1:20 pm
So, now it’s either Raji or Maclin, or a reach.
Gotta go Raji.
April 23rd, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Browns are working out DHB
he’s the 4th WR in since Crabtree left the building
further proof they aren’t taking Crabs. like I said, probably go Defense in Round 1
May 1st, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Bryan…
Great post! Some of this tips I use intuitively, so there are some comments in my blog. But some of them I didn`t knew. Thanks…
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