Gentlemen, start your engines
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, April 25th, 2009 at 9:19 am in Oakland Raiders.
I’ll be supplying updates from Raiders HQ in Alameda throughout the day.
My final mock draft was posted in Bay Area News-Group East Bay papers this morning, with some picks I already regret.
In the interest of full disclosure, I actually had tight end Oklahoma State tight end Brandon Pettigrew going to Atlanta (having worked on the draft before the trade of Tony Gonzalez to the Falcons) and only an alert copy editor (thanks, Dave Belli) saved me with a phone call.
I gave the Falcons Boston College defensive tackle Ron Brace instead, then sent Pettigrew to Arizona. That, unfortnately, bounced San Jose State defensive tackle Jarron Gilbert out of the first round, including a real clever line about jumping out of the pool and into the starting lineup.
During our mock 10-pick draft on Comcast Sportsnet Bay Area Friday night, the Jacksonville selector gave some thought to Ohio State running back Chris “Beanie” Wells. I felt validated for a moment, knowing I’d picked Wells for the Jags myself to pair with Maurice Jones-Drew as a replacement for Fred Taylor.
Fellow panelists Kevin Lynch (49ers insider) and Matt Maiocco (Santa Rosa Press Democrat) told me I was crazy. You can find running backs anywhere in the draft. You don’t take them at No. 8. At least not this year. They’re probably right.
Other potential gaffes _ I left Percy Harvin out of the first round altogether, thinking if he didn’t have enough sense to show up clean to the most important weekend of his professional life, then teams would question his decision-making enough to leave him out the first round.
The general consensus is that I’ve erred big time on that score _ who cares about a toke or two when you’re a potentially devastating slot receiver? I’m usually cynical enough to realize talent trumps a minor drug issue every time. Teams and the league frown and threaten, then look the other way if it means a few electrifying touchdowns.
I also had defensive end LSU Tyson Jackson way too low, at No. 15 to Houston. He’s had some support at No. 3 to Kansas City and No. 10 to San Francisco (by Maiocco).
No confirmed deals as of yet, although the Raiders are reportedly, and not surprisingly, shopping end Derrick Burgess.
The gamble on Burgess is that he’s in a salary year, which could mean double-figure sacks. Do you ride out that potential production or move him to get a mid-round draft pick that could conceivably have little or no effect in 2009 but strengthen you for the future?
I’d lean toward keeping him and making him a nickel rusher, giving him fewer plays and keeping him fresh, riding out the last year. Sacks are hard to come by.
But the Raiders have a better idea of Burgess’ and his body type than I do. They could be shipping out a spent player, with someone else hoping for 10 sacks they’ll never see as Burgess spends half the season nursing injuries.
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April 25th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Trade Burgess!
April 25th, 2009 at 9:25 am
burgess isn’t going to get double digit sacks for us this year if we can’t stop the run because nobody is going to need to throw the ball on us. i say get rid of him and focus on getting a de that can play the run and rush the passer instead of a one trick pony like burgess.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:26 am
sorry but Burgess is past his prime and overrated. Other than the first 2 years, he has been invisible.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:28 am
Here’s our numbers as we get ready for #7
2008: 159.7 ypg, 4.7 yards per carry, 23 tds, 31st ranked run defense
2007: 145.9 ypg, 4.8 yards per carry, 24 tds, ranked 31st.
2006: 134.0 ypg, 4.0 yards per carry, 15 tds, ranked 25th.
2005: 128.1 ypg, 4.0 yards per carry, 18 tds, ranked 25th.
2004: 125.8 ypg, 3.7 yards per carry, 21 tds, ranked 22nd.
2003: 156.9 ypg, 4.6 yards per carry, 21 tds, ranked 32nd.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:28 am
The storage unit stuff is hilarious.
My wife and I have a two week discussion about what we were going to sell this weekend. I get the truck, load up the stuff out of the house, and she litterally questions EVERY SINGLE thing I took out of the house. And had an attitude. It was HILARIOUS! And we hadn’t even made it to storage yet!
And I’ve spent $110 a month for 3 years for my storage unit. I’ll never make that back, LOL! And we only cleared out about 1/5 of the storage.
Any way I can write this off?
April 25th, 2009 at 9:30 am
A player I liked early on but thought was a slight reach was Richard Sey…..errrr….Tyson Jackson. Another talent that could help this team deal with one of the worst run defenses in NFL history
April 25th, 2009 at 9:30 am
I would trade him Jerry.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:30 am
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
Repost:
If Curry’s still there at #7, no way we pass him by.
If Curry’s gone, and Sanchez is still on the board…TRADE our #7 for the Jets #17 and their 3rd-round pick this year AND next year. Use our first two picks on WR or LB, in either order. Big problem with this scenario is the Jets might even go up to #2 to take Sanchez.
If Burgess is traded, DE must be the first or second pick…but can we can get the guy Al wants by trading down or does the team need to stay at #7 and take one of the “can’t miss” prospects? (I wonder…how can they be prospects, and be “can’t miss” at the same time?)
Either way, WR must be in the forefront for us…and Hakeem Nicks, Maclin, even DHB have a chance to be as successful at this level as Crabtree.
And yes, Maclin can be very successful in the NFL — two straight years of leading all of major college in total yards is no fluke. The guy can play, and the Raiders need playmakers desperately.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Good Morning !!!!!!
Raider O
Please provide us with your most recent mock draft, your getting close.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Put me down on the Tyson Jackson bandwagon at 7th.
Jackson reminds me of Kevin Carter who was also a huge DE who lined up on the left side, Carter was a much better pass rusher than Jackson is at this stage, but Jackson may be able to give us 6-8 sacks a year as well as solid all-around play from that LDE spot.
And much like Carter, Jackson can slide inside on passing downs, that kind of versatility makes the guy more valuable than most DE’s.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Beautiful day Raider Nation!
Today is when we find out the real deal between Al and Cable and how much they really get along. If we draft a WR (which we all know Al probably wants), it might be a likely sign that things really haven’t changed up top. But if we pick an OT or DT, it’s definitely a sign that the two really do have a chemistry that has been lacking with Al and some of his recent coaches (need I say – overhead projector/bed & breakfast).
So as much as I’d love to snag a playmaking WR, we all know a glaring weakness is the inability to stop the run, and the inability to keep Jamarcus from panicking 2 seconds after he hikes the ball.
Please AL. LET CABLE WORK!
LET CABLE WORK!
DT OR OT! Let’s get it!!!!
April 25th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Agree about Tyson Jackson, Marley — but only if Burgess is gone. Otherwise, go D-Line in round 3/4. I think that’s where we need to look at Safety, too.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:37 am
The guys on NFLN are just providing the excitement for the viewers to watch the draft and play off the intrigue of Percy Harvin. My personal belief is he is a fantastic football player, and other than a few blunt mistakes will be a playmaker in the NFL.
Please don’t compare him to Maclin or Raider JLH, this guy goes zero to 50 in a whisker and would be great for our team.
Let’s move pass the personel stuff, and look at his value to any team.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Get us one of those Cadillacs Cable keeps drooling over
Hell, Oher had his pops killed, his mom was a crackhead, and he was adopted and raised by a total different race. Imagine all the crap going thru that kid’s mind all the time, yet he still fought thru it all to get to today. Would love to have him or big A. Smith.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:41 am
R8,
I wish I can. lol
April 25th, 2009 at 9:44 am
I think Al usually let his first year coach choose their own first pick…except for Kiffin. turner got Gallery. Shell got Huff. It’s in the later rounds that Al start dictating picks based on speed. It will be interesting to see if Cable gets his way. If they draft an OT, then we know it’s for Cable.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Im so sick of all this mock draft garbage that I can’t wait for this draft to be over so we can discuss something else..
April 25th, 2009 at 9:48 am
I sent a text to brien,..if the Raiders,..well more specifically old crazy Al takes DHB at 7,Im giving my season tis to him,..but brien might turn them down. if Al takes DHB, espn and the network will have plenty to make fun of for months and years to come.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:50 am
The Raiders haven’t drafted a D-Lineman in the 1st round since 2003. That guy was a big blazing bust!
Plus, that busted pick was 6 years ago.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Here we go:
After trade for Burgess:
1- Monroe/ A Smith/ Maclin
2- M Johnson/ DHB
3- from Burgess trade: Sidbury / Robiskie/ Ramses B
3- DT Magee, Dorell Scott, C Baker, or Sammie Lee.
4- OLB J Williams/ Z Follett
5 from burgess trade: SS M Mitchell
7- TE Bear Pascoe
April 25th, 2009 at 9:52 am
41 TD’s in 2 years, is a lot of gawdamned Touchdowns.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Norco Bob Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 9:48 am
I sent a text to brien,..if the Raiders,..well more specifically old crazy Al takes DHB at 7,Im giving my season tis to him,..but brien might turn them down. if Al takes DHB, espn and the network will have plenty to make fun of for months and years to come.
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Would be an absolute disaster if they draft DHB.
Speed is the most overrated attribute in the NFL.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:56 am
I would love to get:
1.- DE Tyson Jackson
2.- TE Brandon Pettigrew
Pettigrew will probably be gone but I would love to get this guy, a true TE who is a great blocker and can catch, you flank the OT’s with Pettigrew and Miller and you have instantly upgraded your blocking and added a few wrinkles to the offense as both can get out and catch the ball.
With 0′Neal’s return at FB a question mark, we could see a lot more double TE sets, maybe it could become our base offense.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Maclin can play. Crabtree’s already-broken foot may not hold up. Hakeem Nicks might be as good as either of them. DHB could be a diamond in the rough.
Trade down…and draft healthy players coming out.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:56 am
My Final Mock
Rd 1. Michael Crabtree, WR- this drafy is about Jamarcus and this is the player that will single handedly help him the most.
Rd 2. Gerald Cadogan, OT- A very good OT that still has upside. He is quick, agile, and performrd very well at Penn St. He had the second longest arms of all the OL in the draft (A. Smith 1st) and put up numbers comporable to Joe Thomas in college.
Rd 3. Lawrence Sidbury Jr., DE- Is a physical freak, ran the fastest 40 of all defensive lineman (4.64) and competed on the 100mm team at Richmond. Has long arms, speed off the edge and great range. He absolutely dominated the opposition but lack of competition is a cocern. 20 Tfl’s and 11.5 sacks in his final year at Richmond.
Rd 4. Mike Mitchell, S- The videos speak for themself. He can play both safety positions and offers special teams value. Imagine a future secondary with him and Tyvon in the backfield…..scary.
*Rd.4 Chris Baker Dt, This is the person that we need to help alog the D-line. He is going late mainly because he comes from a small school (Hampton) and faced inferior competition and minor off the field incidents. He ran a 5.03 in the 40 at 320+ and has plenty of strength to spare to match his speed and quickness. He sheds blockers, penetrates, and gets off the snap well and is stout at the point of attack.
Rd. 7 Lee Robinson OLB- This guy has all the tools that you look for in a strongside backer. He has size at 6′2″ 249lbs, good speed, a solid tackler, a great motor, very hard worker, and productivity. This final year he had 111 tackles, 10.5 tfl’s, 3.5 sacks, and 3 picks. The year before he had 18 tfl’s in 9 games. He is a four year starter that has never missed a game.
*Extra fourth acquired in a trade, possibly Burgess or Fargas.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Some say M Johnson will fall to the 3rd round. If we trade Burgess we best not wait that long. Burgess trade might be because they think Jackson will fall. Best to wait till its our pick before we trade Burgess. It would leave a whole to fill and although some of you guys want to trade him I’m not convinced its a good idea. We could get the best from him in a contract year.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Dell,
Let me explain it:
Burgess trade: we get a 3rd and 5th.
We worked out Maclin and DHB, and I really think DHB or M Johnson if not both will be available at 40th. I don’t think we will draft DHB at 7th when we can get him at 40th.
We also worked out: Magee, j Williams, Z Follett, M Mitchell, Sidbury, and a few OTs that were never reported.
That’s my logic behind my draft.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Norcoma Bob — Is it fun to text yourself? Which one of your personalities is left-habded, and which is right-handed? Is it tough to text with so many callouses on your hands?
April 25th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Yeah, the year we got Gallery was mind boggling, because Al has an obvious fetish for DB’s in the first round and that was the one year if any that he should have catered to that fetish and picked Sean Taylor (R.I.P.).
April 25th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Bob Marley,
Shawn Nelson is the guy you want…..i he is a good receiver and blocker and i saw a video of him taking Maualuga to task 1 on 1 in a blocking drill.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Dell,
Bill B from NFLN just agreed with me, and he picked A Smith for the Raiders at 7th.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Hayes,…if thats humor, please try again,..typical L.A. loser,…wish you would get a new nick,..I liked Lester,..you however are a complete loser with no life.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:01 am
I doubt DHB is going to fall out of the first — if anything his stock has risen the past few days.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Dell,
Where are my manners?
Good morning Sir.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:02 am
SilverAndBlackBleeder,
NFLN posted that the Raiders have spent 6 of their last 13 picks on DBs.
Haven’t drafted a D-Lineman (Brayton) since 2003 – 6yrs ago.
Only ONE 1st round talent starting on the defense (Asomugha). No Gerard Warren does not count
31st ranked run defense
27th overall ranked defense
April 25th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Look at Devin Thomas last year, he ran a 4,3 too and had better production at college.
He went high in the 2nd.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Raji…
Brace…
Brinkley…
no longer will we be 31st against the run…
April 25th, 2009 at 10:10 am
If the Giants see DHB there at #29, they’ll snatch him up.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:10 am
1 Crabtree
2 Brace
3 M Johnson
April 25th, 2009 at 10:11 am
We will find out in a few hours!
April 25th, 2009 at 10:12 am
I’ve been a Raider fan for almost 35 years. The importance and hype of the draft every year has reached absolutely comical levels.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:13 am
I think the Giants will draft H Nicks. IMHO
April 25th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Mike Wallace and Johnny Knox both ran 4.3 40’s. They could be had in the later rounds and bring the same skill set that DHB brings to the table.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:14 am
#41,
And we love it. lol
April 25th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Severe
Pettigrew is the only TE I would want in the 2nd round because he’s the complete package, Miller is a great receiver who can block, we don’t need another guy like him, Pettigrew is the opposite, he’s a great blocker who can catch.
Shawn Nelson, Jared Cook and the other TE’s are primarily receivers, we don’t really need one of those unless they fall and become a value pick later in the Draft…IMO.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:16 am
SnB,
I like Mike Wallace from Ole Miss.
I call him a poor man’s Maclin.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:17 am
i will say this though…
if Curry is there at 7, gotta take him…
Curry…
Brace…
best DE or DT… whichever is rated higher…
Burgess is trade bait… for a 3rd or 4th… otherwise don’t bother…
April 25th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Pete-will we still have the 32 pass off.?
April 25th, 2009 at 10:18 am
I think the smartest possible move would be to take a OT in the first (if a good one is available) and give up our second for Boldin, maybe throw in Fargas to sweeten the pot.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:18 am
It’s amazing to me how something so simple, has the chance to go wrong for so many teams. Just take the best player on the board when we pick and we should be fine.
In no particular order Andre Smith, Eugene Monroe, Crabtree, Curry, Maulauga, Tyson Jackson, Raji, Harvin.
These are the best players in the draft when you take out all the BS and just get down to it.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Nation what is up???????????
Some really good comments as usual from all you guys.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:19 am
SNB Defense,
I hear ya. I think Al goofed on a lot of those DB hunting years. I was just saying that was the one year when he should have picked a DB. Hell, by then, it was obvious Derrick Gibson was a bust, and Sean Taylor was and still would be if tragic events didn’t happen – a beast.
But this year, again, I’d love to see us draft an OT or DT just to show that Cable and Al really have something that can grow in a positive way. If it’s a WR we choose, it could mean Al remains stubborn in his ways.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:20 am
2.5 more hours, I can’t wait.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Raider O
Thanks for the response and explanation.
I sincerely hope for a trade down and if we don’t I hope the Raiders get a mean and nasty big dude.
Either side of the ball, is alright by me.
Probably, they’ll draft a DB, Yikes!!!!
April 25th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Thec,
Is that really you bro, from SD?
April 25th, 2009 at 10:21 am
the WR’s you also need to consider what “system” they played in. catching bubble screens wont cut it in the league.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:21 am
BornInOakland Says:
I’ve been a Raider fan for almost 35 years. The importance and hype of the draft every year has reached absolutely comical levels.
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Remember ESPN’s first draft coverage, and how exciting it was to finally get something in the middle of the dead months? The hype now is pretty funny…but I don’t know if it’s worse than watching old reruns of rodeo or fishing tournaments for days leading up to the draft.
What’s really amazing, is how much $$ the “professional” prognasticators are paid to be no more correct than the knowledgeable fan. Hype and hair (and a lot of hard work, admittedly), and anyone can be a pro!
April 25th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Thec
Welcome back my brah!!!
I hope all goes well.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Raider O, what up my true BRO????????????????
Yeah its me, the site would not allow me to use Thec so i just added the 1 to it.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:22 am
NFLN…Rams recieving calls about their pick
April 25th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Dell,
I agree. I just can’t see Al drafting Raji, and I really think the Bengals are interested.
That’s why I took him out of my mocks.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Boldin for the 71 pick overall and Justin Fargas.
boldin getting tj Houshmanzadeh money 15-17mill in guarantees for 5 years. The cards would have the running back they have been sniffing around for and who happens to be a hell of a blocker and the best offer they have had yet since the eagles have only offered their 3rd rd pick. Other than that the phone has not been ringing.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Dell, what it be Homie? All is right with the world its draft day. I pop in everyday and read all the info. no matter what the NATION has the best fans in and around the world…..
April 25th, 2009 at 10:25 am
41 TD are a lot of gawdamned Touchdowns, in whatever system. It’s still football.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Raider O
I’ll be surprised if they go WR with the seventh pick,but I’m definetly not getting my hopes up!
April 25th, 2009 at 10:26 am
I hope we stay young and purge all old and non performing assets. like javon walker…..
April 25th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Hell ya bro,
You sure know how to make an entrance, a few hours before the draft!!
What an entrance!!
Glad to have you back bro, now where is 408? I haven’t seen him here in 4 days!!
Thec is Back.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Thec
Don’t run away and hide again! This blog is better and we need your Raider PASSION!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 25th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Kell, what up man? hope all is well with you.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:28 am
ROFLMFAO at post 68……….
April 25th, 2009 at 10:29 am
draft day is exciting.
Matt Ryan turned Atl around year 1.
Peterson put the vikes back on the map
Ngata breathed new life back into that ravens d by freeing up Ray Lweis in 06.
Alex Smith gauranteed the 49ers 5-10 more years of futility in 05
The Giants, pitt, and San Diego climbed back into the NFL elite after securing their franchise qb’s in 04.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:29 am
It’s all good Thec, nice to see ya back.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Dell,
I want Monroe/ A Smith/ Curry/ Crab/ Raji/ Orakpo/ or Maclin. In that order.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:30 am
The draft is a few hours from now, I’m off to workout. I will just get antsy just pounding on the computer key board.
I’ll catch you guys later when the draft begins.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Who do you like at the 7th Thec?
April 25th, 2009 at 10:32 am
If we do go WR I dont want us to drop one of our young WR’s for the likes of the vets who could not get it done. Most were down on JLH but he has a lot of upside.
Dickv i like your thoughts on the boldin trade. we could cut walker, maybe al;’s goon squad could force him to give back the money he stole.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Dell be good BRO….
April 25th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Later Dell, and I hope this will be the draft that helps turn things around.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Draft board
1. Monroe
2. Oher
3. Rey- Rey
4. Crab
5. Andre Smith
6. Orakpo
7. Maclin
We really need to solidify the Offensive line which can easily done with one pick ensuring that Jamarcus will have the opportunity to succeed that the fans deserve.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:35 am
O, thats a tough one to weigh. Draft best avail, or draft need. If it was up to me I would take Crabtree if he is available. I like his mean streak he can punish after the catch runs like adrian peterson of the vikes.
Who ever the best avail player is that who i take.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:36 am
I think i’d be happy with any of these:
OT, WR, DE, DT.
All of those areas are areas of need. So let´s go Al put on ur magic hat and get some draft steals!!!
GO RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIDAAS!!!!
April 25th, 2009 at 10:36 am
The C,
Javon’s salaries for 09 2010 are guaranteed around 2 million a year. That was part of the deal for him taking less bonus money than previously agreed to in March.
Javon will be in Oakland in 09 either way.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:38 am
what i like about this year is we did not go on awild spending spree. We made some sound decisions, hope it continues through the draft. Some of you make very compelling arguments, and quite as kept you guys are beter than mayock macshay and kiper jr. those goons get paid to do it and they do a horrible job.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Our offense won’t be complete until we get our hands on a playmaking WR, until then, teams will play 8 or 9 man fronts to stop the run and they will do it, it’s a numbers game, they will bring more people than we can block.
If they think Crabtree (the physical type) or Maclin (the separation type) can help open up the field for the running game, you probably have to grab one.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:42 am
did Jerry call roll yet?/ are we all here?? the dakotas the raiders o’s the brien or brains the kools kels and the 15 year old kid…aree yall ready?
April 25th, 2009 at 10:42 am
With all due respect…No matter the upside of JLH we cant start the season with him and Scillens or Crabtree as starting wideouts, plus as Dickv says too much cap price. If Crabtree is there its him or Maclin (hope not) but I’m leaning towards A Smith.
Wonder if the Rams want Sanchez or just putting out trade feelers. Our pick could hinge on what they do
April 25th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Nothing like nursing a massive hangover and waiting for the draft to start. Oh yeahhhhh.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:45 am
hope we dont have a ” we want sapp , we want sapp” moment. “With the number 7 pick the raiders select percy harvin”..I think that would make all of us throw up
April 25th, 2009 at 10:45 am
I look at javon and he has zero heart. He got demoted to number 2 in denver and was a chump about it. He never really stepped up after they drafted marshall. He is a number 2 at best. Your number 1 should have the heart of a Lion and the skills to go along with it. Dont want to turn this into a bash walker campaign but if he is a member of the nation he may be riding the pine. JLH, Chaz, and shields and add a WR in the draft. Walker will be beggin to leave.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:45 am
lefty12 Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Pete-will we still have the 32 pass off.?
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I take a shot. I am going to say no. The pass offense next year will be much better. As long as Cable has DMAC, Bush, Higgins and Schilens….should be much better than 32 next year.
JaMarcus Russell QB Rating
Week 17 = 98.9
Week 16 = 128.1
Week 15 = 85.7
Week 12 = 149.1
Week 11 = 88.4
April 25th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Marley
I agree with you that the raiders offense will not be complete until they get that outside threat that demands the safeties to roll coverage; however, We need to just compete at this point. I don’t think the Raiders should take a WR high just to say they took a play maker.
They need a lot of help and that line could use one more tackle to compete. Too many teams have won consistently without the services of a big threat WR. That is a harder statement to make once we are talking about winning superbowls, but at the moment we need to win more games than we loose.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Almost draft time. I hope Tom Cable, John Marshall and Al Davis review this clip before they draft.
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80d4f811
April 25th, 2009 at 10:50 am
SnB defense, you made a very compelling argument on going defense on an earlier post.
I have been high on JLH from day one and will continue to be. He has gained a lot of confidence, and also led the nation in catches. JLH is our speed guy.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:52 am
I like Crab too.
Agreed. As long as we draft an OT, DE/DT, WR, and SS I would be happy.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:52 am
I still think Walker has something to prove/left. Drafting a WR might be the kick in the a%^ he needs. Just my opinion.
I like the young WR’s, though and they all could grow together with J-Russ and DMC. Cable thinks J-Russ needs help so thats either WR or OT. Best available…
April 25th, 2009 at 10:53 am
SnB,
I am with you on the premise that JR has enough to start with as far as targets and weapons which would allow the raiders to focus on other needs.
I think the raiders should go ahead and lock in OT while they are in a draft that has the deepest class of franchsie LT’s in a long time.
oher, smith or Monroe would all be solid picks.
Crab and Rey are play makers that will scare people and command respect.
I was not high on the DMAC move last year but I did notice that when he was on the field, defenses adjusted coverage to schemes to make sure he did not get them.
Crab and DMAC would start to really scare the hell out of opposing offenses.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Trade up with KC and take J. Smith or Monroe, which ever the Rams pass on.
Thats assuming KC would trade with a division rival and assuming they really are after Tyson Jackson.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Im wwith ya YoungAmerican!!!
I concurr with what my good friend dicky says… We should go O-line on the first obviously an OT and even think we should trade up to try and reach for alex mack. I feel that is an anchored line for years. Wr can come later, maybe even sign a vet. DL is an issue.
Go HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAITAAASSS!!!
April 25th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Hopefully there is a big screen monitor with a video display…can’t use the overhead projector…I hope clips like this are on the video screen in the draft room as they deliberate.
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80c27781
April 25th, 2009 at 10:55 am
DickV
I agree, what I’m saying is that those who think we don’t “need” a WR are way off, we need one as much as we need DL and OL help, at 7th we need to pick the best player available regardless of position, with the obvious exceptions (RB,QB).
April 25th, 2009 at 10:55 am
SNB, that was brutal…….
April 25th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Javon is really a non factor when it comes to WR. his cap hit would have killed the raiders, so the raiders are just stuck with him; thankfully, he has cooperated with them and accepted less money.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:56 am
I like Raji, but the problem is that I like guys like Magee, Scott, Baker, and sammie in later RDs just as much.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Not sure about Crab.
Lotta word about him acting diva and being kind of a ****.
Don’t need the attitude. Cable juuust got that turned around last year.
Smaller, slower, A holier than advertised, plus he’s got a lot of work to do to get up to NFl speed. I wouldn’t expect Eddie Royal production his rookie year.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:59 am
for all those offense minded guys out there that think the first few picks should be spent on a OT, WR, and TE just remember one thing. We currently struggle to stop the run and looking at this years schedule,
Giants
Steelers
Chargers
Cowboys
Skins’
Ravens
Texans
KC if LJ is there
that’s just roughly 10 games alone we can get slaughtered. Defense is the way to go, LB-DT-DE-S.
Worst case senerio, there are plenty of decent WR still out there as FA. Who know’s? Walker could have a decent year, Shields could shock critics, Chaz and JLH could break out big games, Jerry Porter could be resigned, lol. Gotta go D all the way and give us a chance this year to be a .500 team or better.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:59 am
SnB…
If they watch them clips its gonna be Raji!
Man! Forgot how bad we really are
April 25th, 2009 at 11:01 am
I’ve got a Cohiba standing by.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:01 am
I thought all WRs or most of them are Divas. They develop it when they learn the WR position. lol
April 25th, 2009 at 11:01 am
LTR Kell… dont hurt anyone.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:02 am
KoolKell Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 11:01 am
I’ve got a Cohiba standing by.
Could you explain Cohiba?
April 25th, 2009 at 11:03 am
When the discussion turns to if the pick should be Heyward-Bey or Raji, Jackson, Gilbert
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80d0c246
April 25th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Crab has been talking too much $h!t lately that is for sure and teams have been turned off by his entourage that he brought with him to New York.
The kid can play though. In end of the day adding a play maker like Crab will help JR, score TD’s, sell tickets, add another blue chipper to the roster.
Namdi, JR, DMAC, and Crab would be four household names that every football fan in America would know.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Raider O
Gotta agree. I played CB. Ha ha
April 25th, 2009 at 11:04 am
KK,
Dominican or Cuban?
April 25th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Mornin all.
Is Oher a RAIDER yet???
2 hours to show time.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Cohiba is a Cuban Cigar brand. You can’t buy Cuban Cohiba’s here legally, but you can get the Nicaraugan models.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Excuse me Dominican.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:06 am
IndianaRaider
u might be right about going defense. But OL is something just too basic that is really sh*tty in our team… goin 3 n out most of our drives really makes our Defense stink. Sure we need upgrades but let´s start form the beginning. by controlin the clock u control the game.
Raideeeeeeeeeeeeerrrsss!!!
April 25th, 2009 at 11:06 am
kk…
Hope you get the opportunity or reason to light up. I got something else instead case it goes wrong. Not legal in Scotland either!
April 25th, 2009 at 11:08 am
I’m all for drafting Defense, if that’s where the value is.
But the biggest mistake GM’s make is drafting (reaching) for need, specially in the 1st round.
With top 10 picks you take the best player available regardless of position, it’s not about next season, it’s about 2 or 3 years down the road.
Later on, you target specific needs.
Now if the best player availabe happens to fill a need, great!…but it doesn’t happen that often, unless you talk yourself into thinking that’s the case.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:09 am
lol post 119
April 25th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Bob your smoking the same as me if you got confidence we draft that smart. Hope I’m wrong though
April 25th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Either way we’ll get a good player today.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:11 am
rodsdays Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 11:06 am
IndianaRaider
u might be right about going defense. But OL is something just too basic that is really sh*tty in our team… goin 3 n out most of our drives really makes our Defense stink. Sure we need upgrades but let´s start form the beginning. by controlin the clock u control the game.
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Your right but at the same time, we have upgraded the line. Is it 100% better? I’d say roughly 60-65% better. Harris is gone and out of there. If and I do stress If, Barnes keeps up the work effort, give the man a chance. Henderson got a lot of praise and has a whole offseason to work with Cable to better himself. Imo, it would be a slap in the face to both men to draft a OT now because both have the chance to start but spending that pick and money means one of them gets shafted.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Good morning Raccoon.
I played S and LB, and I really dislike WRs too.
By the way, I’m a legend in my own mind, and should have played for OSU or USC. lol
It’s a conspiracy, they just didn’t want to have an Arab American NFL player!!!
LMAO
Can you imagine!!
Still LMAO.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Think its only natural to be worried. We’ve had so many poor drafts that we fear the worse. KK says we get a good player either way and after looking at those highlights(?) again we need all the help we can get. I’m still banking on a surprise though.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:14 am
crabtree on espn
April 25th, 2009 at 11:15 am
what does ” snb” stand for…??
April 25th, 2009 at 11:16 am
“Those who forget the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat them” ~George Santayama
Ranked 31st or 32nd THREE TIMES IN LAST 6 YEARS
Only TWO D-Lineman drafted in the 1st or 2nd round since 1999…
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80c86427
April 25th, 2009 at 11:16 am
KK,
Enjoy it Sir, and I hope it’s a good draft for you and the nation.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:17 am
You make a good point Indiana. However, if Andre Smith is available, I wouldn’t mind having him. Competition is a good thing.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:18 am
SharkCatcher Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 11:15 am
what does ” snb” stand for…??
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Couldn’t use the “&” in the registration process. Small price to pay.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:20 am
it’s about competition-if we do draft Andre the giant and he beats out Barnes and Henderson it improves the team.those guys aren’t guaranteed squat.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Raider O Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Good morning Raccoon.
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I got Makers Mark if we draft well, and lots of Jose Crow if we blow it. Blow it in my mind that is…..
April 25th, 2009 at 11:21 am
SharkCatcher Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 11:15 am
what does ” snb” stand for…??
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Just a guess
Silver N Black????
April 25th, 2009 at 11:23 am
DirtyRaccoon Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 11:20 am
I got Makers Mark if we draft well, and lots of Jose Crow if we blow it. Blow it in my mind that is…..
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You like blowing after some Makers Mark don’t you DirtyRagGoon. You blow all night long…..
April 25th, 2009 at 11:24 am
32 pass off.you can’t win if you can’t score.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Raccoon,
I can’t wait, my Anxiety is killing me.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:26 am
of the five top rated receivers…
i take Heyward Bey…
you get get him in the 2nd round…
April 25th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Not even a good session is helping my Anxiety?
Cmon big Al, make us happy.
6 long years Al, I know you can do it. You have before.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Yeh, Al, make us happy. Announce your retirement today, and that Madden will be doing the drafting
April 25th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Yes, SnB Defense = Silver N Black Defense!
We’ve already let a top 7 bust at LT, WR (Randy Moss) and Safety…..
Time to give a front 7 position an “opportunity” to bust……
April 25th, 2009 at 11:31 am
AL!!!!
don’t forget my man Brinkley in the 3rd !!!!
April 25th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Raider O Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Raccoon,
I can’t wait, my Anxiety is killing me.
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Yep, 90 mins to the start of Draft grades and regret.
Ha ha ha
Oher then Mack trade Burgy and or Fargy back into late 2nd round and get Robiskie…
April 25th, 2009 at 11:33 am
rodsdays Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 11:06 am
IndianaRaider
u might be right about going defense. But OL is something just too basic that is really sh*tty in our team… goin 3 n out most of our drives really makes our Defense stink. Sure we need upgrades but let´s start form the beginning. by controlin the clock u control the game.
===================================================
Your right but at the same time, we have upgraded the line. Is it 100% better? I’d say roughly 60-65% better. Harris is gone and out of there. If and I do stress If, Barnes keeps up the work effort, give the man a chance. Henderson got a lot of praise and has a whole offseason to work with Cable to better himself. Imo, it would be a slap in the face to both men to draft a OT now because both have the chance to start but spending that pick and money means one of them gets shafted.
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It´s probably best we dont even discuss it… We need depth in both sides of the line… I feel we need to add competition I mean Super Mario held his own…and we can give barnes the benefit of the doubt… but O line shouldn´t be a doubt….everything starts there. Runnin game…passing game etc… Even with new faces i still say we need more depth
April 25th, 2009 at 11:34 am
2007-31 in passing yardage
2006-31 in passing yardage.
2008-32 in passing off.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:34 am
My anxiety’s killing me, too. Heard a rumor Al was going to announce his retirement today, and that Madden would be making the picks. Can’t wait to see if it’s true. If not, this day’s a complete let down. Nothing to look forward to till the season, where maybe Cable can rally the team to 6 wins.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Thanks Raider O, you too.
If Sanchez moves up into the Top 5, we could have a shot at Monroe.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I hope Al announces he intends to run the team until he dies, reminding everyone that his mother lived into her hundreds! Long live Al!
April 25th, 2009 at 11:37 am
SnB said:
Only TWO D-Lineman drafted in the 1st or 2nd round since 1999…
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Percentages, dude. That’s 2 X 10 (picks x years). So, for our theoretical 20-picks, we spent 2 (or 10%) of the picks on the D-line. There are at least 11 positions to pick for (I say at least, because there are subcategories for a number of positions, like ILB/OLB, etc).
If we gave every position their “fair” 10% of the picks over the same 10-year period, it’d be spread equally. Our problem is our D-line selections haven’t been long-term answers — whether failure that was caused by themselves, or due to tragic events.
Time to hit an immediate homerun with each of our first few picks, whatever their positions.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:37 am
OMG…less than two hours! Al’s going to announce his retirement. Greatest day of my life as a Raider fan. Fingers crossed…
April 25th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Anson Williams, get out of here with your negativity.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Realmadden…where you get your info from?
April 25th, 2009 at 11:40 am
More depth is the answer but we lack depth more on the defensive side of the game IMO. With a run first system, we won’t be a top passing team. If anything, our biggest bust on offense last season was 3rd down conversions. By sending stone hands Curry and Lelie packing, at least we have seen the last few games of last season that Chaz and JLH can make the catches with Fargas, McFadden, and Bush helping in the back field.
Don’t get me wrong, I am in no way secure with this offensive line but at the same time we can’t have both and be stellar. This draft can secure a decent to top notch defense for years to come. Same can be said with the line with some of the best OT out there. It really comes down to Al, as much as we disagree, he gets the make the call.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:40 am
# Braveheartraider Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Realmadden…where you get your info from?
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He gets it from TMZ.com, Ryan Seacrest Radio Show, or Playgirl.com.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Braveheart Raider, it’s just what I’ve been hearing.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Stop with the Bad Al talk please. Don’t jinx this draft. lol
April 25th, 2009 at 11:42 am
I think Einstein is on to something. Now THAT would be reason to celebrate!
April 25th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Al just called.
Said he wants Heyward-Bey, even if he has to take him at #7.
He added that we’re all a bunch of idiots.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:42 am
MR — Where’d you hear that rumor again? Bouncing off the mirror? Nice credible info there.
Long live Al, the only true maverick left in the NFL.
TRADE DOWN, AL! (unless Curry’s still there)
April 25th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Hopefully this will not be us……..and no its not another run defense clip…its football related…just something to think about and hopefully Al and Tom are too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhsipsk9spU
April 25th, 2009 at 11:42 am
If I hear the name Jeremy Maclin get called out for us I will puke. Same with DHB. We have a lot of very good options here weather we go D or O, but if we go for a speedy reciever with absolutely nothing else going for him I will be pissed. If we go reciever we need a guy like Crabtree or Hakeem Nicks. A big physical type. This team has enough speedsters. Even Shilens can run a sub 4.4 40 yard dash.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Morning Nation,
Draft Day! Yesss.
I don’t know what to expect, but I’d like to see us deal some players for picks.
If we can get decent value for Burgess or Huff I’d trade em.
RD1 A Smith
RD2 J Gilbert/A Mack
RD3 J Brinkley
RD4 one of the 3 or 4 Safeties discussed.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Oh, of course other sensitive, Davis worshipers think you’re funny, Einstein. But nobody in the real world does.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Re: Burgess
What good would 10, 12, even 20 sacks do us this season? He’s leaving after the season anyway. Oakland is not going to be a contender in 2009, so if we can get a 4th round pick for Burgess and turn than into a SAM linebacker or an interior lineman, we’ll be a better team for it.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:45 am
IndianaRaider Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 11:40 am
More depth is the answer but we lack depth more on the defensive side of the game IMO. With a run first system, we won’t be a top passing team. If anything, our biggest bust on offense last season was 3rd down conversions. By sending stone hands Curry and Lelie packing, at least we have seen the last few games of last season that Chaz and JLH can make the catches with Fargas, McFadden, and Bush helping in the back field.
Don’t get me wrong, I am in no way secure with this offensive line but at the same time we can’t have both and be stellar. This draft can secure a decent to top notch defense for years to come. Same can be said with the line with some of the best OT out there. It really comes down to Al, as much as we disagree, he gets the make the call.
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LOL no sense in discussin it
April 25th, 2009 at 11:45 am
“Twocents Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Al just called.
Said he wants Heyward-Bey, even if he has to take him at #7.
He added that we’re all a bunch of idiots.”
He’d be right. We’re all still here
April 25th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Florida Pete, I’m just telling you what I heard. Everybody in here is spreading rumors. I’m just talking about what I heard. I don’t know why you guys are so fired up. It would only be the best thing to ever happen to this franchise. Al retiring? We’d finally have a shot at being a competitive NFL team again.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Whatever comes out of those gates we have a better chance of surviving if we Stick Together! -Maximus-
Whoever gets drafted he is gonna be a Raider and Cable will make sure it is a team first guy. So whoever it is it is a cant miss pick from what we have had in the past.
my two cents
April 25th, 2009 at 11:48 am
154 & 155,
Sick beyond help, but funny as Hell.
LMAO
April 25th, 2009 at 11:48 am
It’s a real shame that we’re going to dump Huff for a 4th or 5th round pick this weekend. He could still develop into a quality corner. The fact that we have our top 3 CBs set (unless the Routt trade rumors sprout legs), he could be eased into the job and either become a very good player for us, or increase his trade value. Teams are always looking for more cover guys.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:49 am
anyone got a link 2 watch on-line???
April 25th, 2009 at 11:50 am
the Raiders without Al Davis would be like Russia without nuclear missles…
nothing left…
April 25th, 2009 at 11:50 am
4eva
try this
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/live/landing
April 25th, 2009 at 11:51 am
So, Florida Pete, what are the Raiders now, a nuclear superpower? LOL.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:52 am
MR the only retiring Al is going to do today is retiring from juggling his nuts on your forehead. TBAGGED.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:52 am
when billy mays talks I listen!
And he said the Raiders are trading down LOL
April 25th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Former nuclear power house..just like Russia
April 25th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Good morning Len.
It’s draft day, and less than an hour and 10 mins to go.
I hope it’s A smith or Monroe.
If it’s Monroe, I will …… I can’t think of something. It’s the anxiety!!
April 25th, 2009 at 11:53 am
MR telling Einstein to stick to draft talk. That’s like Norcoma Bob using his make-believe friend BrienThePrivates as his BFF in here to “get his back.” Almost too funny!
April 25th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Was up 4eva
April 25th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Maybe he’ll announce he supported Shell’s hiring in the beginning before changing in midstream and telling everyone that he’d been against it from the get-go; or maybe he’ll announce that Rich Gannon tells it like it is (when criticizing the Raiders), only to turn around and say that Gannon is nothing but another Raider shill (when complimenting them, aka getting ‘Marleyed’); or maybe he’ll say that the only reason Cable ran so much in the finale was because Al Davis was thousands of miles away, back in California, this despite actually rushing the ball more the week before, with Al, in all his jumpsuited glory, in attendance. Heck, the sky’s the limit, when it comes to possible announcements.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:54 am
# Crow Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 11:48 am
It’s a real shame that we’re going to dump Huff for a 4th or 5th round pick this weekend. He could still develop into a quality corner. The fact that we have our top 3 CBs set (unless the Routt trade rumors sprout legs), he could be eased into the job and either become a very good player for us, or increase his trade value. Teams are always looking for more cover guys.
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I think you are missing it my friend. The shame of the matter is that we picked Huff as a #7 in the first round, and a shame he is still a Raider. A 4th or 5th for this LOSER would be a gift to us!!
April 25th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Einstein, you don’t have it in you. Just talk draft, like the other guys who don’t know how to argue.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Bravheart Raider, that’s more like it. comment 178
April 25th, 2009 at 11:55 am
lol…Morning O
I’d be very Happy with Monroe or Smith.
I’ve read and heard a rumor on NFLN that the Jets are trying to move to #2 to draft M Sanchez.
If Sanchez and T Jackson are picked in the top 4, we’ve got a shot.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:56 am
I refuse to believe Huff is a bust first of all. Blame Ryan for how he used the guy.
Our defense under Ryan was far from a conventional 4-3 as he had guys doing awkward things all the time. Screw Ryan
Huff is still a damn good player and will be on the team in 2009
April 25th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Anson Williams, you’re starting to lose it. You’re also starting to sound like someone very familiar. What’s with the daily name change?
April 25th, 2009 at 11:56 am
I can’t say ” Nuclea..”, I might dissapear for a few years. lol
April 25th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Sshhh,
Big brother is here!!!!
April 25th, 2009 at 11:58 am
LOL. JT52 thinks Rob Ryan ran the defense….
April 25th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Einstein…ironic name.
Huff has talent. But, like so many other promising careers, the Raiders turned him into a bust. He was never cut out to be a SS. Al’s defense is almost impossible for a FS to succeed in. It says a lot that the only decent FS we’ve had in recent memory already had a Hall of Fame resume’.
Huff should have been drafted as a CB to begin with. I wasn’t happy with the pick. As usual, I had other players in mind. But, the man has skill. Hopefully, whoever we trade him to will get the most out of his natural talent.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Al may dictate but the coach still makes the calls.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Disappear, sorry. It’s the Anxiety.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
“# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 11:58 am
LOL. JT52 thinks Rob Ryan ran the defense….”
Haha. Yeah, we’re all in for a real treat this season. The defense won’t change at all. We can only hope for better tackling and maybe a little gap responsibility.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
One more Hour Gents.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Crow Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 11:58 am
“Einstein…ironic name.”
….
Ha!
Here, here.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
4eva,
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/live/landing
April 25th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
# JT52 Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 11:56 am
I refuse to believe Huff is a bust first of all. Blame Ryan for how he used the guy.
Our defense under Ryan was far from a conventional 4-3 as he had guys doing awkward things all the time. Screw Ryan
Huff is still a damn good player and will be on the team in 2009
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HAHAHA, WTF has Huff done? Huff is still a damn good player at WHAT? Dude isn’t even good on special teams. It’s this mentality (thinking Huff is good, and blaming it on Slob Ryan) that has kept our team in the dark for the past decade. We need to trim the losers like Huff from this team. Overpaid, he sucks man. He can’t cover a cold.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
JT52, if Al “dictates”, how can anyone else “make the calls”? Quit it.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
MR — If nothing else, you multi-guys are offering us some side entertainment during these down times! (Excepting your more vile remarks, of course — which you multi-personalities always resort to when your mental capacities become overloaded.)
Ahh, that felt good. Cleansing. Good for the soul, even.
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Dear AL,
This is a “very deep” draft, and there are a lot of players worth risking picks on. Time to TRADE DOWN ASAP, get the value for the pick and maximize this draft’s potential!
Thank you,
Loyal #37
April 25th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
If we dont fix the D we’ll find out if it really was all Ryan’s fault. This is Huff’s chance now with a new scheme. We’ll find out about him too.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
There you go Crow
More discipline = more plays being made on D
April 25th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Crow Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 11:58 am
“Einstein…ironic name.”
….
Ha!
Here, here.
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Here, here? WTF is that? My name is ironic? Dude, you tout the name MADDEN. Madden defends Al Davis more than ANY RAIDER IN HISTORY. MADDEN LOVES AL DAVIS.
So who’s name is ironic you dumb a$$. lol, nevermind.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Rob Ryan was a bad game caller for sure. The problem with blowing him up too much is that someone felt he was qualified to be a defensive coordinator AND all of his assistants found jobs with other NFL teams.
So, was the scheme sooooo bad that simply changing it will get the team to average. Perhaps, again the playcalling was bad. But I gotta guess the talent played a BIG role in it too.
I hear about gap discipline and tackling. Seems like pretty basic stuff that any NFL coach should be able to pick up with all the film study they do.
Let’s give John Marshall a chance. DT,DE,MLB
April 25th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Braveheart,
If we don’t draft defense…this will be John Marshall’s strategy heading into games against the NFC East. Especially with the LDE and DTs on the roster.
http://www.moviesoundclips.net/movies1/braveheart/country.mp3
April 25th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Whatever, “Einstein”. LOL.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
OMG, SnB thinks Ryan ran the D, too. They’re coming out of the woodworks today, guys. It is draft day…
April 25th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
SnB LMFAO…
April 25th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
With the 7th pick, the Oakland Raiders select:
April 25th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Hayez, yeh, I’m the only person on the planet who realizes Al Davis is the biggest problem with this team. Every single person who comes in here and talks about that just has to be me. Because there is only one. Me. You’re a genius. National Geographic channel should do a show on you.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
MaddenRaider your act is so tired….
April 25th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Crow Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 11:58 am
“Einstein…ironic name.”
….
Ha!
Here, here.
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MR — You embarrass yourself all the time!!!
Make fun of Einstein’s choice of name, and then say “here, here!”
That’s hilarious Einstein, urrr, I mean MRStein! The phrase is “HEAR, HEAR.”
What a maroon.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
SnB that you laughing in the background?
April 25th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Raider O Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
With the 7th pick, the Oakland Raiders select:
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A Smith.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Hayez, get help. I’m serious.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Braveheartraider Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
SnB that you laughing in the background?
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Naw…that was Terdell Sands and Jay Richardson wimpering in the background
April 25th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Whatever you say, “Einstein”. LOL.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Now that I’m cheered-up even more, I’ve got some productive stuff to do for the next several hours.
You all enjoy yourselves, I’ll check in for more entertainment as we go along.
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
April 25th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
SnB…Everyone in the house heard the clip. They all grabbed swords instinctively! Thanks for the laugh.
45 to go
April 25th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Hayez, we’ll see if it’s a great day to be a Raider fan. If Al’s still in charge at the end of the day, it won’t be.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
MR, I’m curious, who do you “want” the Raiders to draft today?
April 25th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
BTW, Hayez thinks every single one of you are me. Play along, guys. It’s like having a senile old relative with you. Just roll with it.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
I think Al will take Maclin, I said it.
I want Monroe or Smith, but I think Al likes Maclin. He reminds him of Tim Brown. IMO
April 25th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Curry is decked out in Silver and Black woo hoo
April 25th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Einstein, it doesn’t matter as long as Al’s in charge. If my rumor turns out to be true, I’d like Madden to take Raji. Start building a real, run stopping defense for a change.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
i wish i could get paid to get 29 answers wrong
April 25th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Aaron Curry looks like a solid citizen. Big strong hands too.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Einstein, it doesn’t matter as long as Al’s in charge. If my rumor turns out to be true, I’d like Madden to take Raji. Start building a real, run stopping defense for a change.
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Fair enough. Though I don’t agree, still a fair answer.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
42 mins and the drafts starts.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Before I leave…
MR won’t say who exactly he wants…because if it’s realistic, and Al makes the pick, and then the pick fails, he and Al will both be losers together.
MR is perfect, just ask him. Some of his other characters aren’t, though. Maybe one of those other characters will give an answer — either way, if/when anything goes wrong, MR will claim to have known it all along. Just like Kiffin was the inventor of the running game. So full of wisdom, that/those MR.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Try again, Hayez, you senile moron. I gave my pick. Also said it wouldn’t matter if Al stays in charge. Let’s hope the rumor is true. Madden’s Raiders, baby. Finally, we’d be in NFL team again.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Hayez, yeh, you nailed it. Every single Raider fan on the planet who agrees with me about Al Davis (like the ones who call into radio shows every single day), are all me. I’m all of them. Your detective skills are astounding. Seriously…
April 25th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Raji…and what else, MR? Put your Raiders salvation ideas in motion for us. Let’s make it a challenge for you, though — you cna’t give Al the boot (he’s the owner, duh!).
Narrow-minded finger-pointing doesn’t rebuild franchises.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
MR how old are you?
April 25th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
There’s not a Raider fan past or present that doesn’t appreciate what Davis has done for the Raiders. The Raiders are because of him. their persona, philosophy, mystique, the lot. But there comes a time…
Anyway, not long now
April 25th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Bill Williamson is reporting that the Chiefs and Falcons are working on a deal that would send Glen Dorsey to Atlanta for picks #27 and #90. KC would then take BJ Raji at #3 to play NT in their new 3-4 defense.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Al’s failures (and great successes) are pretty evident, MR. Old news, and the TEAM’s on the right track. Your negativity won’t affect that either way.
And just as I predicted, you couldn’t give a pick without adding a caveat about it not being successful if Al’s still here. Even if we have the best draft we ever had, it would be a failure? Duh..more logic from the master, MR.
Funnier and funnier by the minute!
April 25th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Einstein, I don’t know where you’re going with asking me about my age, but I can tell you this. I’m the most mature person on this blog, sans Jerry.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/04/breaking-raiders-shopping-huff/
Can it be true?
April 25th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Einstein, I don’t know where you’re going with asking me about my age, but I can tell you this. I’m the most mature person on this blog, sans Jerry.
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Just asking a simple question man. Any particular reason as to why you can’t or won’t answer the question?
April 25th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Hayez, I don’t care about the second round. I’m sorry I’m not some fantasy sports geek that plays out the entire draft in my head. It just so happens I’ve got other things to do. But you asked me who I’d pick, and I said Raji. Now ask all of my other alter egos who they’re going to pick. Like, everyone else in here right now. The whole world is me, Hayez. Every single person. They’re all me. (roll sound: Twilight Zone)
April 25th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
thankx BreaveheartRaider and Thec1!!!
Not much DR you 2 tom killer!!!
April 25th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Einstein, you’re asking a personal question on a blog where almost everyone is anonymous. So, yes, your question warrants a question in response.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
LOL. Hayez said the team’s “on the right track”. He’s been saying that since ‘03…
April 25th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Showing once again, MR is no fan. It’s much more than that. A psychologist might say it’s a man thing, MR. You’ve got a man thing going on for Al. This is a football blog, dude. Therapy is a few blogs over.
My productive thing includes opening a beer now…T-minus 30…
April 25th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
trade down. trade down. trade down. gimmy some ray ray maualuga.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Ok. If Crabtree is there thats my pick. Then A Smith or other Tackle from Monroe and J Smith. Curry after that or Jackson.
None of the above I trade down for Raji or Oher
April 25th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Einstein, you’re asking a personal question on a blog where almost everyone is anonymous. So, yes, your question warrants a question in response.
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Is it a fair assessment to say you are in your early 20’s?
April 25th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Einstein, give it up. Your first strategy was to try and go heads up with me with childish put down. I told you that it just wasn’t you, and that you sounded ridiculous. Evidently, you took my advice seriously. So now you’ve changed gears, and are trying to trip me up with all of these personal questions. Just talk draft, “Einstein”. You’re probably a smart guy when it comes to potential draft picks and their pros and cons. When it comes to arguing in defense of Al Davis, you’re just witless and confused.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
NO DBH….NO DBH…..repeat after me AL NO DBH..at #7
April 25th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Einstein, give it up. Your first strategy was to try and go heads up with me with childish put down. I told you that it just wasn’t you, and that you sounded ridiculous. Evidently, you took my advice seriously. So now you’ve changed gears, and are trying to trip me up with all of these personal questions. Just talk draft, “Einstein”. You’re probably a smart guy when it comes to potential draft picks and their pros and cons. When it comes to arguing in defense of Al Davis, you’re just witless and confused.
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LOL. I guess I won’t ask the next question I was going to ask you.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Hayez, now it’s the “you’re not a fan” card? My god, talk about something that’s getting tired…
April 25th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Einstein, stop trying to get to know your bullies. Just hide from me and talk draft.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Well, it was just a matter of time..
What’s up ol’ buddy?…
April 25th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Hide from what?
April 25th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
You ladies done with your pissing match yet? The draft is only 23 minutes away…
April 25th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Hide from getting your ass handed to you, as usual, “Einstein”.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
You ladies done with your pissing match yet? The draft is only 23 minutes away…
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Yeah, MR just wiped.
Im out, time to turn the boob tube on and watch some draft.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Bye, “Einstein”. LOL.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Anson Williams, you’re starting to lose it. You’re also starting to sound like someone very familiar. What’s with the daily name change?
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What does my moniker have to do with anything? Typically irrelevant MR smokescreen. I was just recalling some of your ‘greatest hits’, that’s all. Keep ‘em coming. We can’t get enough!
April 25th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
jets and jags trading that #8 pick
April 25th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Braveheartraider Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
There’s not a Raider fan past or present that doesn’t appreciate what Davis has done for the Raiders. The Raiders are because of him. their persona, philosophy, mystique, the lot. But there comes a time…
Anyway, not long now
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Key phrase there is what Al has “done” as in past tense..as in archaic, long ago, in a galaxy far away, tense..as in “At one point he was on top of things. Now he’s reduced to “Can you all see the overhead screen”.
There’s logic.
There’s “going out on a limb”
And then there is Al.
Key in Raider fan: “LET’S TALK ABOUT A QUARTER OF A CENTURY AGO, NOT NOW.”
Oh, save the “Was in SB in ‘02″ That day was likely the lowest day in RaiderDom during that last 25 years.
it’s Al. how can any of you figure out what he’s going to do when he not only doesn’t know himself, but will likely soon forget what he decided, and then blame someone else for his faux pas?
April 25th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Anson, you’re right. You are irrelevent.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
There is no argument about Al Davis, MR. Your whole existence in here is based on an unwinnable position. He owns the team, is the defacto GM, and can do whatever he wants with it. Oh, and the put-downs that are your only other thing.
What a powerful adversary in debate you are. “Here, Here!” Ha ha. Once again, it’s “hear, hear,” you self-proclaimed genius.
The 15-year-old fan smacks you around, MR. His draft analyses beat yours, too. That’s analysEs, as in plural, you fake literary genius. A big difference between you? The 15-year-old fan can handle more than one thought at a time.
Keep it up, it’s getting better…
April 25th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Curry is wearing Silver and Black. Hmmm
April 25th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
You see all that bling on Crabtree……he and JaMarcus may have something.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
First trade will be announced by NFL. com when?
April 25th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
8 more mins.
Make me happy Al, I love the Raiders.
Please draft M Mitchell.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
First trade will be announced by NFL. com when?
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St Louis pick #2.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
I will be sick if Al drafts DHB.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
You may be right, Len — we hope not!
April 25th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Mayock is an idiot. There is no way the Raiders leave Monrow on the board to get DHB.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
I love how the Raiders trying to move Huff is news. The real news would be if someone actually wanted him. He sucks. He isn’t going anywhere. I can see dangling Burgess, he’s a productive player. But, trading Huff by himself is science fiction. He’ll have to be part of some kind of package deal. Also, if the old man does pick DHB, he’s officially retarded.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
edward teach Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Bill Williamson is reporting that the Chiefs and Falcons are working on a deal that would send Glen Dorsey to Atlanta for picks #27 and #90. KC would then take BJ Raji at #3 to play NT in their new 3-4 defense.
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I guess there goes the idea that Raji is not a NT
April 25th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
I wil lsay it again, if its DHB I will give my season tix to brien.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Mayock has the Raiders taking DHB @ 7.
God I hope He’s wrong.
Al can’t be that crazy.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Gentleman
I have the beer here a tri tip sandwich and my son with his friend a Donkey fan here and were ready to get started.
I’m on a lap top so if I go away it will be thrown down when our pick is up and we draft a player I really don’t want.
BELIEVE ME!!
Three minutes, ACDC blasting now, ‘HELLS BELLS’
April 25th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
BrienThePrivate’s already got your season tix, Norcoma. In his calloused hand.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
stanford routte up for trade? thought he was a good #3 corner
April 25th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Norco
My season tix is all I have for entertainment.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Al usually takes risks in the 2nd and on-ward. Anyone who knows Raider ball knows that.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
What if Al goes DE? Ayers or Orakpo…the QB must go down…wow
April 25th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
my pizza is here!!
April 25th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
You seem obsessed with callosed hands…sounds like a man with experience…lol. typical L.A. loser.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Mayock was saying he wouldn’t be surprised if teams passed on their pick. interesting…
April 25th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
I wish I was a agent in that green room, probably a lot of good stuff going on.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
2008-total def-27;total off-29
April 25th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
alisgod Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Al usually takes risks in the 2nd and on-ward. Anyone who knows Raider ball knows that.
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Al Davis’ picks in the top 10 have been pretty good. He’s only whiffed on Ricky Dudley and maybe Michael Huff.
He has never picked a top 10 pick based just on 40x. He does that in later rounds.
Just the same….please hope they don’t draft Maclin or Heyward-Bey.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Let’s just hope Washington and NYJ want Mark Sanchez bad enough to trade up to # 8 so the other team moves up to # 7 and snatches him up first.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
And Awaaay we go!
April 25th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Here we go, it started.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Can you believe Detroit taking Stafford, that’s a surprise.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
That was quick.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Booing Stafford…I hope the people aren’t laughing if the Raiders go Heyward-Bey
April 25th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
1 down, 5 spots to go until it’s time to seal our fate.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Cushing will be in green room til tomorrow.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
lmao matt stafford got booed, but not as loud as mario williams haha.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
They should kick all of those fans out of there. The types of sports fans who show up to these things are the most classless form of human beings on the planet.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Dell, Len, and others,
5 more picks boys.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
i don’t think Davis wants to trade down but it would be sweet if he does.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Every one of those guys booing hasn’t been laid since the ’90s, unless you want to count their fat ass wives.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Stafford’s turning the Lions around. Watch. There’s a team that’s serious about pulling themselves out of the hole.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Lefty
This is the pick that will change the draft boards coming up.If they go OT the draft stays on course.
Rams select______________?
April 25th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
That Rick Gosselin dude of the Dallas Morning News stole my Tim Brown-Jeremy Maclin comparison in his mock draft:
“Tim Brown was a Pro Bowl play-maker for a long time for the Raiders. Maclin is Tim Brown 20 years later.”
For what is worth, the guy is known for being the most accurate of the “Mock Drafters”.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
new post
April 25th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
raiders only top ten team that will draft a dude not there.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
New Post
April 25th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Agreed, this and the 4th pick can shape this draft.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
kc taking curry
April 25th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
YOU guys se the pic of Plunkett behind Curry???
April 25th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Wow. Tyson Jackson, more opportunities
April 25th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Cinci just loves those risky players dont they.
April 25th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
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