Mike Mitchell Q&A
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, April 25th, 2009 at 8:20 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Having never seen him play other than a few clips of him laying out an opposing player, I have no idea if Mike Mitchell is the long-sought answer at safety for the Raiders. But I’m guessing you’re going to like what you hear from him.
A transcript of a conference call with Raiders second-round pick Mike Mitchell, No. 47 overall:
Q: Some draft analysts were surprised you went so high. Were you?
Mitchell: To be honest about it, my agent said there was a really good chance I could go early. I visited a lot of teams, I visited eight teams within the last month, so I knew there were a lot of teams that were interested. It was going to come down to who needed and wanted me more. This is a life-long dream that I’ve had. I’m extremely pumped. I’m shocked that it happened so quickly. It’s something you work for your entire life, and then one day, it’s just given to you. As far as what round I went in, (phone cuts out briefly) third round, my agent was saying there’s an extremely high possibility that you could get up there.
Q: Don’t make combine, what were you able to do last few months . . .
Mitchell: Coming from a small school, I don’t know who votes for the combine and everything like that, I definitely feel like I’m a good football player. I think when my tape got out, people started really evaluating me and looking at my play, with the 40 times and my Pro Day, people were saying he’s a for real football player, he just happened to play at a small school. I think once they started to realize that and see that, that’s when the interest picked up.
Q: Biggest hitter in draft, according to Tom Cable. Something you’ve prided yourself on?
Mitchell: I remember being a young kid and watching, not NFL Network but ESPN classic, my dad and I would watch old films of Jack Tatum and Ronnie Lott and he’d say, that’s how you play football. So from a young age, I knew it was about hitting and being physical. I definitely model myself after those two individuals. I like to impose myself on other people. Obviously, I think I’m a good guy in coverage, I can get interceptions and return the ball when I can, but if there’s an opportunity, I usually take my shots, but if I get a shot to hit you, then I’m going to try and knock the person out.
Q: Have you knocked some guys out on the field?
Mitchell: I think there’s been like three, but everybody usually gets up, but there’s three that I’ve actually, really, put down.
Q: Were you disappointed not invited to the combine?
Mitchell: I really was. I’d been a starter for three years and had good numbers. Coming from a small school, those voters are going to see the guys that come from the USCs, the Missouris, the Texas’s, and those guys because they think those guys are the best players. I’m just so excited, I feel 100 percent blessed by God to have this opportunity, because not only did I get drafted, but I showed that, hey, maybe you should start looking at these small school guys too.
Q: What did the typical Ohio game look like in terms of attendance?
Mitchell: I think we were on TV like four times this year. And probably about, I’d say, 18,000 at our games.
Q: How did you wind up at a small school?
Mitchell: Well, you’ve got to think, coming out of high school, right now I’m like 6-1, 220 pounds. But coming out of high school I was 5-11, 188 pounds. So I feel like in college they kind of recruit you for what you were coming out of high school. Obviously if you looked at a picture of me when I was in high school to now, you’d say no way it was the same person. Also, coming out of high school I had three offers. I had Ohio University, Miami of Ohio and the University of Cincinnati. Cincinnati was a good school but they were in Conference USA. Ohio had a good coach, Frank Solich, coming in from big-time Nebraska, told me I could play early, and I jumped on that opportunity.
Q: You carry a chip on your shoulder then? And will you still?
Mitchell: I definitely did. I definitely did. I felt snubbed ever since the day that I, like I said, only had those three offers. I’ve always known that I was a good football player. For me to say someone’s better than me, they have to prove it to me. We have to see each other on the field, or however we have to do it. Our teams have to play each other, etc., etc. But you have to prove it to me. Some guys, I went to the camps, I was like, ‘What are they doing?’ Maybe he’s an inch taller than me right now, or he ran a 10th of a 40 time faster than me. Jump to college, now I’m the guy running the 4.3s, the 4.4s. So now, that’s just how it worked out.
Q: What kind of vibe did you get on your visit to Oakland?
Mitchell: Man, it was unreal. I visited maybe 12 teams over the whole process. Like I said, I visited eight over the last month. And everyone, they’re so business-oriented. They want to just bring you in and get your physical. A couple of times I heard, ‘Hey, this isn’t college recruiting. If we draft you, you got no choice but to come here.’ You know what I mean? But when I was out in Oakland, it was very welcoming, and it was a warm place. I just felt it. And then just being around and seeing that tradition, the pictures of Biletnikoff and those guys, Bo Jackson and those guys, I was overwhelmed, like, man, this is a rich tradition. I’m not gonna sit here and lie to you guys and say I was a huge Oakland Raider fan when I was growing up. Obviously, I was right across the river from Cincinnati. Even though they’ve been a bad team, they were the team I rooted for till today. But it was a tradition I knew they had. John Madden coming from there, those type guys. I wanted to really be a part of that. So if I had had my choice, Oakland was definitely my No. 1 choice, just for the chance that I could’ve came in and compete. And that’s the biggest thing I wanted. I wanted to be able to come in and compete. Obviously, they don’t guarantee spots. People’s livelihoods are on the line. No spots are guaranteed but there’s an opportunity to come in and compete. The whole vibe out there felt right. I actually know one of the guys on the team, Ricky Brown, his younger brother Mike Brown played at my college. It was just a really good fit for me. I’m a Christian guy nand I’ve been praying on it and I’m so happy to god that I’m here now I’m ready to show everybody this wasn’t a mistake and I’m for real.
Q: Ricky Brown taught us all about skyline chili.
Mitchell: Oh yeah. I’ve had to lay off that for the last couple of months. As soon as I get a break I’m gonna get me about three or four chili dogs.
Q: Did you have sense Raiders liked you?
Mitchell: I really did. I really did to be 100 percent honest. The whole vibe when I was there felt really good. I felt almost at home there. There was one other place where I actually said I could fit in here just as well as in Oakland. My agent was telling me, ‘teams are really scrambling right now. Mike, you’re a hot commodity now. Somebody will pull the trigger on you it’s just a matter of when.’ My agent was actually thinking I might slip into the first round because I had been to 13 teams. A lot of teams showed a lot of interest. They don’t just bring a guy in for fun. Once that started happening teams were like how bad do I want him. I’m 100 percent confident in my abilities. God has blessed me with some great abilities. I’m just so happy to have this opportunity and I want to take advantage of it for sure.
Q: Thoughts when Raiders traded back?
Mitchell: I thought I was going to Chicago. Because they had told me to stay
close to my phone. When they did that, ‘I was like OK, I’m going to be a Chicago Bear.’ That’s what I was thinking. Oakland was able to get to 47. They traded back and it takes a couple of minutes to tell you where they will be. When I saw it was 47 I thought there was still a chance here we’ll see what happens. It’s so amazing how this has happened and worked out. I’m just pumped.
Q: Do you prefer Mike or Michael?
Mitchell: Mike.
Q: Do you see yourself as strong or free?
Mitchell: I don’t really like to put terms on it. I see myself as a safety.
When people watch film of me, they’ll see a guy that has great range in the deep zones, I can play man-to-man, I have a lot of speed. I can play deep safety. I’m a pretty good hitter. That’s not me saying that it’s just what the tape shows. I’m a solid tackler and I like to be in the box. I can do both. I think that’s why my value was so high because a lot of guys in this draft that could just play free safety or just play strong safety. I kept hearing this term when I visited teams that I was
interchangeable. I can go from free safety one play to strong safety the next.
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April 25th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
I’m still in awe.
April 25th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
The size is there. The triangle numbers are there. The value? I just don’t know. He’s going to have to really show out.
April 25th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
I can’t believe some of the little b1tch a$$ whining thats going on in here. Are you all niner fans or Raider fans?
April 25th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
# Einstein Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
I can’t believe some of the little b1tch a$$ whining thats going on in here. Are you all niner fans or Raider fans?
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We know stupid when we see it, and we saw a lot of it today.
April 25th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
So the Chiefs picking Tyson Jackson at #3 was a good pick?
Broncos Knowshon Moreno at #12 was a good pick?
Who gives a fark about what any of you think. YOu have ZERO influence on our team. WHat the fark do you care. Just be a fan, not a freak a$$.
April 25th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Einstein Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
I can’t believe some of the little b1tch a$$ whining thats going on in here. Are you all niner fans or Raider fans?
You are the biggest bitch on here
April 25th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
god fearig,hard working,good character,dhb & mm are good additions
April 25th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Each team has a plan, and in-depth knowledge of who and what they want. Who give a flying rats a$$ what or where they are picked. They got who they wanted, so farking what. Quit whining.
April 25th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Einstein Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
So the Chiefs picking Tyson Jackson at #3 was a good pick?
Broncos Knowshon Moreno at #12 was a good pick?
Who gives a fark about what any of you think. YOu have ZERO influence on our team. WHat the fark do you care. Just be a fan, not a freak a$$.
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Shut the fuk up bitch. The chiefs and broncos are non factors in this.
Brien<———-Never been a fan
April 25th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Einstein: Hysterically ironic screen name.
April 25th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Einstein Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Each team has a plan, and in-depth knowledge of who and what they want. Who give a flying rats a$$ what or where they are picked. They got who they wanted, so farking what. Quit whining.
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In depth knowledge? You can’t be serious saying that. Very in depth to draft a WR who wont start in 2009 and draft a fukkin DB in the second round that wouldnt have been selected by any fukkin team there. Shyt is ridiculous
April 25th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Crow Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Einstein: Hysterically ironic screen name.
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Dude is dumber than a box of rocks
April 25th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
I’m out yall. Time to go have some sort of enjoyment on this Saturday since the Raiders front office brass is still not getting it! See ya
April 25th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Knowshon was a good pick for Denver. Ayers in the 3-4? Not so much. Two small, slow corners?
I’d say they went one for four, which ain’t very good on day one.
The Chiefs should have taken BJ Raji. They have Dorsey and Hali already, and Tyson Jackson ain’t no nose tackle.
The Chargers taking English was dumb. He’s way too small to rush the passer against NFL tackles.
April 25th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
This offseason was going so well. You just knew today was the day the other shoe would drop. And to think, I had actually let myself be suckered into thinking Cable had some sway. What a dope I am.
April 25th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Hell ya, I love you This Kid.
I wanna be
I wanna be
Like Mike
April 25th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
I love this kid, he sounds mature in all his interviews.
April 25th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
*# edward teach Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Knowshon was a good pick for Denver. Ayers in the 3-4? Not so much. Two small, slow corners?
I’d say they went one for four, which ain’t very good on day one.
The Chiefs should have taken BJ Raji. They have Dorsey and Hali already, and Tyson Jackson ain’t no nose tackle.
The Chargers taking English was dumb. He’s way too small to rush the passer against NFL tackles.*
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I don’t really like the Moreno pick for Denver. Not that he’s a bad player. I think he’ll be pretty good. But, as mentioned when they dumped their QB, offense wasn’t their problem. If they’re keeping the ZBS in place, taking a HB there wasn’t a smart choice.
Ayers will be a pretty good OLB for them, I think. A 270 pound OLB with speed? I like that pick for them.
I thought the Chiefs might go Raji. Pioli has a long history of taking DLs in Rd1. I guess they saw Jackson as a safer pick. I just can’t imagine them leaving Dorsey at NT. That’s going to be a hilarious waste of talent.
Hali may be a decent OLB for them. I don’t expect it, but he might turn into something if they can get a legit rusher from the opposite side.
The English to SD pick was a surprise, but it makes some sense. Merriman is coming off a serious injury and entering a contract year. A.J. Smith may not want to pay him the Haynesworth level salary he’s likely to demand. Well, now they don’t have to. English won’t be on Merriman’s level, but he’ll be a good one. I really like the comparisons to Woodley. I think he can be a similar type of player.
April 25th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
What does god fearig mean ?
April 25th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
ManFearPig?
April 25th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
I’m much more excited by the mitchell pick kid has major speed and can hit i will hope for the best from dhb but I can already see on this blog after he finishes the year with 1td you have to wait 2 yrs to be good at wr
April 25th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
504 Raider! Raider O! Priest! WE FREAKIN GOT THE KID!!! I was as pumped after that as I was deflated after we left Monroe and Crabs on the table and grabbed DHB. I can’t tell you guys how pumped I am. I remember saying that I’d spend a 2nd rounder on this guy but I didn’t think it would be necessary. It may have been may not have been but that is nowhere near as important as the fact that we got him. All the critics, you have every right to say what you want and I’m sure you can make a case for your “value” judgements (you too SnB) but… the guys who were not picked in Rd.2 tells you something about how well we diagnosed the market. Nobody picked Gilbert, Johnson, Meredith, etc. So you might at least think that there was a good possibility we got him somewhere near another team being close to getting him.
On to DHB…come to work kid. Work your a$$ off to show that any “holes” in your game are fixable. Because the “uncoachable” stuff is there for sure. \
April 25th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Mike Michell will be a solid starter from day one, also he will make a few PBs.
DHB, I’m not sold on. I wanted Monroe.
Now, we should get M Johnson.
April 25th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
MM looks to have some serious STs potential. DHB? Well…
April 25th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Still on the board and we could get at least one at #71:
DE Michael Johnson G.T.
C Antoine Caldwell Bama
DT Jarron Gilbert San Jose State
DT Terrence Taylor Michigan
S Chip Vaughn Wake Forest
C Jonathan Luigs Arkansas
WR Ramses Barden Cal Poly
G Duke Robinson Oklahoma
T Troy Kropog Tulane
FB Quinn Johnson LSU
MLB Darry Beckwith LSU
April 25th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Brien is the general of taking it in the a$$.
April 25th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Nader,
We got him Bro, we got him.
Hell ya we got him. We have a person that O players will fear. We have a head hunter.
Let the days of Tatum and Atkinson begin again.
We have Branch and Mike Mitchell.
I love this pick.
April 25th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Im out until the whining puzzys go to bed.
The same people the cried like b1tches last year because we didn’t take Glenn Dorsey or Vernon Gholston. They sure turned out to be pro bowlers didn’t they.
April 25th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
We are gonna have some major speed at safety branch&Mitchell !!!!!
April 25th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
We will have 2 head hunters at Ss, Nnamdi and CJ can cover. I love it.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Nader64,
Yep we got him. When I saw it flash on the screen I just smiled. Then I really felt important that we had more info on this guy than the whole cast on ESPN did. Kiper and Swami was pullin out that stupid draft guide as if to show “Look, Micthell ain’t in here.” They get paid to know this stuff and we pay to try to find out about it and we get it and they don’t. Mitchell will be a star.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Oooo…speed at safety. Woohoo! That worked really well for us with guys like Huff and Dorsett.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Crow… I see where you’re going and I can appreciate your takes. I have to disagree with a couple of them, though. Moreno was a need pick for Denver. They were patchwork at best last year in the RB department, and having a weapon like Moreno gives them more balance on offense. Orton may be able to manage a game but he won’t win one for them throwing the ball like Cutler did.
Ayers was projected as a 4-3 DE. Maybe he has OLB skills, but he sure didn’t cover anyone at Texas; I think it’s a real stretch for them there because I think he’ll be playing out of position, and if he is successful there it won’t be right away.
I agree with you about the Chiefs, but I don’t know how safe the pick was when you still have a gaping hole at NT and you passed on the best one available.
English, and I could be wrong here, doesn’t seem to me to have the bulk to rush the passer in the NFL. He will either be facing tackles that outweigh him by 50-60 pounds or have to deal with blocking tight ends. His film shows that he sets the edge OK against the run, but can he really do that at his size in the NFL?
April 25th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
I agree Huff sucked and dorsett was terrible but I’m way more psyched about mitchell then a low production wr with bad hands.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
I like cable talking like he made the picks sure thats why the first pick was the guy with the fastest 40 time.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Look guys:
We drafted a WR and a SS, now it’s time for The D Line:
We added 2 more picks:
We need to draft a DE, DT, OLB, and depth.
We can make this draft work, relax.
3- M Johnson
4- Magee, Scott, Baker, Sammie Lee, or T Taylor.
4- J Williams/ Z Follett
6- depth
6- Depth
7- Bear Pascoe
I love it.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Ayers=Tennessee. My bad. The take remains the same.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
I just watched highlights of Crabtree and Heyward Bey.
What a huge mistake Crazy Al just made!
Crabtree is much quicker and stronger. He has elusive moves, and he runs over people.
Al keeps picking 40 times over football skills. Why???
April 25th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Sounds like a great kid. Could have gotten him cheaper. Sounds like the kid’s agent sold Al and Mike on Mike’s ability.
If you really think Chicago’s hot on him you could have traded down deeper into the second, gotten another pick and still gotten your man since Chicago doesn’t pick until the 3rd round.
Al has no concept of value, he might as well draft a horse. They’re pretty fast aren’t they? May not pan out to be much of a football player tho…
April 25th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Crow: your Einstein= hyterically ironic screen name comment was one of the few laughs I’ve had throughout this long day.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
That tape on you tube was a great idea, good for you kid. You did well kid, very well.
Welcome to the Raiders Mike Mitchell.
Make us proud, we wanted you as much as you wanted us.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Yeah O!!! We have some serious hitters much like the old days as you said. When I think of JaMarcus to DHB (if/when it ever gels) I see some parralels (on the surface) to the old offensive philosophy as well (Plunkett to Branch/Lamonica to Wells). As we know a good O-line and running game will be key to the success of that brand of football and any brand of football. Now I’m hoping for at least one OL (or TE) + defensive linemen and LBs on day 2.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Moreno may be a need pick, but you can get good RBs in later rounds. When you run a ZBS, you can pulls 1000 yard rushers off the street. With a defense as bad as theirs, they really, really needed to focus on upgrading that side of the ball.
Any 4-3 DE moving to 3-4 OLB is a projection. I think Ayers is as likely to make the move successfully as English or Maybin.
I’m with you on the Chiefs. You can scheme around the lack of a NT in a 4-3. In a 3-4, you really can’t. You can 1 gap in a 3-4, but even then, they don’t have a guy to play in the middle. Dorsey is not a 0. He’s not a 1. He’s really not a 5, to be honest. I feel for the guy. The Chiefs really derailed what could have been a great career.
3-4 OLBs always give up a lot of size to offensive tackles. Most DEs do as well. The great ones can challenge them in power, but it’s mostly a speed/evasiveness game. Shaun Phillips is a pure speed rusher, and a pretty good one. Ware is a speed rusher, though he does have a nice bull rush too. I think English will be able to get under and around tackles the way Woodley and others do. I really like English’s chances, and was hoping we’d grab him in rd2 if he fell that far. I kinda figured he was a 1st rounder, though.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
# coinman Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Crow: your Einstein= hyterically ironic screen name comment was one of the few laughs I’ve had throughout this long day.
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Smiles are in short supply today. Good to know someone took a break from beating their head against the wall.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Raider O says:
Look guys:
We drafted a WR and a SS, now it’s time for The D Line:
We added 2 more picks:
We need to draft a DE, DT, OLB, and depth.
We can make this draft work, relax.
3- M Johnson
4- Magee, Scott, Baker, Sammie Lee, or T Taylor.
4- J Williams/ Z Follett
6- depth
6- Depth
7- Bear Pascoe
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Those would be great picks, yeah. It’s definitely a salvageable draft.
Problem is, if this is what Al did with his first two picks, what are the chances the rest will be rational?
Needless to say, I’m worried.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
M&M-we want you to hurt some one!
Start with Brien and then take on the rest of the AFC.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Nader,
We added 2 more picks.
We need DE, DT, OLB, and depth on O line and other positions. Let’s get to work.
This can be a great draft, so what if DHB was a reach?!?
We can make this work.1st RD talent has a lot of upside, but there is always a huge bust factor.
You build a team with RDs 2-5, and you get depth, ST players, and potential in later RDs.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
The rest of the AFC West:
Denver’s 1st draft under the new regime was solid, but not intimidating nor spectacular.
San Diego has drafted well recently so I give them some cushion, but I have to say I was surprised at their pick.
KC’s pick of TJ was as much of a “reach” as DHB, but of course nowhere near as laughable to the self-righteous panel of analysts and their re-gurgitated opinions.
And as always, none of it means squat til they get on the field.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
FUKK!!!!!
April 25th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
If Mitchell and Heyward-Bey both turn out to be great players, who is going to be the genius to get the credit?
April 25th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
I still kinda like Mitch King from IA. Should be a solid player.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
im just sitting here giggling at these angry posts LOL.. its been said SNB Defense would be very upset today.. well all i can say is im laughing.. i think its funny as hell.. these are classic Davis picks but yet some would think he would miraculously change.. fact is.. they didnt pick Crabtree because the kid didnt want to be here.. not just with us but Cleveland.. i saw the kid roll his eyes and let out a huge sigh of relief when the Raiders took Bey.. so is really a kid we want on our team? i think not.. maybe the Raiders tried to trade down but couldnt because once Sanchez was off the board.. they had no leverage.. so they took the guy they wanted.. im just glad the donkies didnt get Sanchez..
April 25th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
FUCC!!!!
April 25th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
We have 3 picks in the next two rounds, 5 total in day two.
There are many decent linemen prospects still available:
DE Michael Johnson
DE Lawrence Sidbury
DT-DE Clinton McDonald
DT Dorrell Scott
DE Kyle Moore
DT Sammie Lee Hill
DE Zach Potter
DT Chris Baker
DT Marlon Favorite
DE Jarron Gilbert
DE Everett Pedescleaux
DT Ricky Jean-Francois
DE Mitch King
DT Terrance Knighton
DT Alex Magee
DT Roy Miller
DT Terrance Taylor
OL:
OT Gerald Cadogan
OT Jamon Meredith
OL T.J. Lang
OT Joel Bell
OT Xavier Fulton
OT Andrew Gardner
OT Jason Watkins
OT Troy Kropogg
OT Lydon Murtha
C-G Alex Fletcher
C-G Antoine Caldwell
C-G Jonathan Luigs
C-G Blake Schlueter
Some good LB’s too:
Jasper Brinkley
Zack Follet
Jason Williams
Russell Allen
We should be able to get our hands on some of these players in the mid (3-4) or late (6-7) rounds.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
If Mitchell and Heyward-Bey both turn out to be great players, who is going to be the genius to get the credit?
^^
If we don’t start winning it’ll be the same as the Nnamdi treatment: Most likely they will get minimal exposure and hype. As they begin to be un-ignorable, the media’ll say what great players they are and how unfortunate for them to be stuck Oakland. But as with Nnamdi, nobody outside of Raider fans will give much credit to the man upstairs.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
# 909RaiderLifer Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
75…
Hope it wasn’t a Tyota.
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No way. GMC all the way.
Well, like I said a few days ago. On to the crying, anger, and second-guessing portion of the summer.
I don’t care anymore. I just want to see wins.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Because Kiper and Mayock didn’t have these guys high on their boards has caused a lot of you to lose sleep?
R-E-L-A-A-A-A-A-X!
The knock on Crabtree and Maclin was that they didn’t play in a pro style offense, I thought? Those bubble screens won’t translate, I thought? Well DHB played in a pro offense, and was bigger, faster, and stronger than any of those guys. Since he was the first WR drafted, he OBVIOUSLY was the top WR on their board. If vertical is what they wanted, then this was the best guy to get it done. Now let’s just look forward to the 2 or 3 deep throws we will see to this guy this year. He will surely be on the field.
And like they say, the tape doesn’t lie. Mitchell is the real deal and was about to be drafted a couple picks later by the Bears.
LOL at Kiper and Mayock. Like they wouldn’t take a personell job in the league in a second if it were offered. And why do you think it hasn’t been offered?
April 25th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Lowdown….
How ya doin?
Me? Well, the slab of ribs I cooked was, well… f-ing awesome, and the beer is still ice COLD.
Not sold on Heyward- Bey yet, but this Mitchell kid could be worth the effort at a 2nd.
We need someone who WANTS to knock the snot out of the other guy. This kid could be that someone. Know what I mean?
April 25th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Im not too sure OL is even on the radar at this point. Some of Cable’s comments about why they didn’t take OL early make me think that they are pretty satisfied with what they’ve already got there. I am a bit surprised (understatement) at the first two picks, but hopefully they will pan out. I really think we need help along the defensive front more than anything right now, but a little more depth on the OL would be nice too. LB is still a need in my opinion too.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
I wonder what’s coming tomorrow. What current Raiders could be playing for another team come tomorrow?
April 25th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Todd McShay: “To me this has bust written all over it. You bring in a wide receiver who can basically be a speed guy. You can go vertically; he does a good job with that at a 4.3 speed. But, he does not catch the football consistently. If you’re going to draft in the top 10, you better draft a guy that can do it all. Michael Crabtree can do it all. Being obsessed with the 40 times is one of the reasons that Al Davis and the Raiders continue to pick at this spot.”
April 25th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Well, hey guys. So we passed on the second best tackle and reached for the 4th best WR at #7…and then we reached 3 or four picks, I mean rounds, for the 40th best S in the draft…at pick 47…and passed on the run stuffing NT we needed in Brace, who went to a team with a clue, NE.
Not the best day…not sure how it could have been worse, well, I guess we could have tacken two punters!
Go Lakers!
April 25th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
The thing that’s odd to me is that when I was a kid, (a long time ago), I remember Al lecturing a sportswriter about how dash times mean little, as “functional, (ie. broken field) speed is all that really matters”. My, Al, how you’ve changed…
April 25th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Dakota……….
funny, my thoughts EXACTLY
April 25th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Let me tell you guys something about how Moss became successful in Minnesota. They sent him out long on just about every play. Straight line speed to get rid of the corner and the safety on every play. Moss was just running sprints and trotting back to the huddle.
After a few series of this the DBs would get tired and Culpepper would kill them on the same deep sideline throws. Moss didn’t run a damn route tree going all over the middle or this place or that. Moss was just in better shape and faster than any DB and wore them out throughout the course of the game.
That is exactly how we are gonna use Heyward-Bey. He’s gonna sprint straight down that sideline and take two guys out of the play. Now there will be areas for DMac/Bush/Miller and co. to run and catch balls for nice yardage. And if DHB is open then JaMarcus can get it to him with no problem. So yeah he does make others on the offense better.
Screw Crabtree! He didn’t want to come here. The ESPN reporter said that when we announced DHB, everybody at the table including Crabtree let out a big sigh of relief. So F#%k him.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
coinman Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
The thing that’s odd to me is that when I was a kid, (a long time ago), I remember Al lecturing a sportswriter about how dash times mean little, as “functional, (ie. broken field) speed is all that really matters”. My, Al, how you’ve changed…
^^
Are you saying the picks don’t have functional speed?
April 25th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
“LOL at Kiper and Mayock. Like they wouldn’t take a personell job in the league in a second if it were offered. And why do you think it hasn’t been offered?”
Al offered Mayock a job. You see where he’s at: Not in Oakland.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
I don’t which player I want more, Meredith or M Johnson.
Both are top 10 Talents at their positions.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Dakota…
I trust that stud finder came in handy, no broken hand?
April 25th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
I do like how Al made Tom Cable come out and say “DHB was the GUY I TARGETED…”
lol, Tom, even your own Mother knows you are a lying sack of schit. Like you have anything whatsoever to do with the pick. For all intents and purposes, Al’s freaky looking brother who turned the card in had more say in who was drafted than you did.
fuking joke.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Worst case,
Reciever that will take Years to contribute….
Safety that WASN’T even on ANYONES board….
WHERE IS THE GM!!!!!!
NO HELP ON “D”
Give the cheats our Pick and they take our GUY
WTF
WTF
WTF
April 25th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
I don’t know much about the mid to late round prospects, so I will just have to keep my fingers crossed. Lets all hope that something good comes of things tomorrow.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
504, if you’re seriously comparing DHB to Moss, you’re out of your skull. Seriously. Stop.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
As our QB said:
Chill… We got this.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
# Raider O Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
I don’t which player I want more, Meredith or M Johnson.
Both are top 10 Talents at their positions.
———-
Um…what?
April 25th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Crow Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
504, if you’re seriously comparing DHB to Moss, you’re out of your skull. Seriously. Stop.
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Crow.. your absolutely correct.. DHB really doesnt seem to be the type of person to quit on his team and team mates.. there is no comparison.. Moss is garbage always will be.. great players never quit no matter the reason.. period..
April 25th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Guys
I am getting a little mystified at how we are dissing this draft so far:
1. We did not draft Crabtree – that is a good thing not a bad thing. Scoring 500 touchdowns or whatever in a spread offense against big 12 defenses is not that impressive and his attitude sucks and he is injury prone. However we could have drafted Monroe or Raji so not sure about all that… I thought DHB was the best WR in the draft for what the Raiders needed but also knew he would last until at least 15. It is too bad Clevland made the trade back deal. It would have been cool to pull back to 13 and make that deal. By the way if you think DHB is just a track star think again… He blocks plays special teams does what he needs to do to win. Calvin Johnson did not have big numbers in college because of the system he was in and the QB but he turns out to be a good pro. Good chance DHB will do likewise although not as good at catching as CJ.
2. We picked up a 4th and a 6th round pick because NE really liked Brace (and had lots of picks anyways) and it sounds like we wanted Mitchel all along so we got 2 extra picks and got in before Chi. took MM. We only had five picks so this was good to get more picks.
3. It sounds like we got just what the Doctor ordered at Safety.
While the Raiders have done some crazy things since the Gruden trade, I see no reason to go balistic about today.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
when i heard the word darrius the life drained out of me all my happiness just left
April 25th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
909,
I truly didn’t see the DBH pick coming so I was in too much shock to break anything. I was ready to break something had we picked Maclin. I was ready to be disgruntled about Crabtree, and I was ready to be annoyed about Raji…but I never lent any credence to Mike Lombardi’s crazy suggestion that the pick would be DHB. I was ready to declare us AFC West champs had we selected Monroe…
I actually just said no and walked away from the tv with the sudden realization that everything the talking heads say about Al and 40 times is 100% true. Then I almost lost it when I remembered Al’s mom lived to 104 and I might have to go through more drafts like this until I am almost 60 years old.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
You can’t give grades on drafts the day of the draft. to be honest you can’t grade drafts until 3-4 years down the line and sometimes that is sort of hard. Namdi was a bust after three years in the league as was Robert Gallery.
since then Namdi is widely recognized as the best CB in the league and Gallery has quietly developed into a solid LG.
I even heard Berman referencing how you really can’t loose on drafting a player Like Jason Smith because they will likely play for you at either Tackle or Gaurd such as Robert gallery.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Crow,
Comparing the blazing speed and running go routes all day. OK would you rather me say Alvin Harper who did major damage for the Cowboys back in the day but the triplets got all the credit.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Jhill: your arguement about the relative merits of the WRs is sensible. However, when you consider that Monroe was there for the taking, and our need for a successful veteran WR to go with our second year men remains, things seem less cheery.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Crow,
Both are top 10 talent at their positions.
By the way bro,
Sometimes, less can be more!
April 25th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Hay O you still here ?
April 25th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
I agree raiderO and nader-
great two picks. we got 2 starters in 2 need positions with 2 picks. and managed to get a 4 and a 6 rounder.
Just cause they wherent big name guys dont flip out.
there are a ton of first round busts, if both of these guys turn out to start their well worth it.
go raiders!!!
09-10 afc west champs
April 25th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
I has such high hopes
You know everyone was bustin my nutz all week
Saying AL will pick the 4.3 guy….
Me being loyal, saying Nahh too many quality players @ 7 who can make an immeditate impact….
We’ve been cheated
The worst thing…our division has actual GM’s who Actually evaluate talent..and they killed us…they all got better today
What a joke
April 25th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
haha 15. That’s exactly what happened to me…I’m still not sold that it was the right pick. But I have to admit, I’ve been researching DHB all day and my feelings are less negative than they were before the draft and during the pick. I was incensed. Now I’m hopeful. I think Tomycar is dead-on w/ how we’re going to use him. I know he has elite speed and good ball skills (tracks well and goes and gets jump balls), so we’ll see.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
No matter how you slice it, DHB was a dumb pick, especially with the likes of Henderson, Barnes and Green at OT while Monroe just sitting there. Same goes for any number of picks we could have had at #7. However the Mitchell kid makes much more sense after seeing tape on him. I do not use drugs but if I did, I would want some of Als’
April 25th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
How far can DHB run down the field before Russell is sacked? 15 yards?
April 25th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Man oh man what a wild…different…crazy…wow i dont know what to say but i sure hope they know something we dont
April 25th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Just win
I don’t know about the late round prospects outside of West coast players but I do know having 5 chances to get someone special is better than having 3 chances!
April 25th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
I think Mark Sanchez is going to be the new Matt Leinart.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
R8,
Ya bro, how was your draft day!! lol
April 25th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
There was one Raider who was interviewed this week and asked his thoughts on the draft and what we should do. And I do believe that Nnamdi is a happy guy today.
Don’t know about you guys but I’m happy about the picks and will defend them. Me and nobody on here is getting paid to make evaluations on players and know how to decide who to get. We like guys based on heresay and some dimwits mock draftboard. I gotta go with the guys who get paid to do this stuff.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
i was telling my gramma how mad i was after the dhb pick and she was like calm down its only a game
April 25th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Yeah Wind, I agree. There are always a lot of dandy little nuggets available in the mid-rounds. I just wish I knew more about them so I would have a little more interest in day 2.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Dakota Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
How far can DHB run down the field before Russell is sacked? 15 yards?
====================================================== so true….so true
April 25th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Change of subject…anyone else think that Gru-Dawg was a pefect fit today? Did Al find the next Madden?
April 25th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
you sure want to root for the guy.
i’d like nothing more than to be proven wrong in my disappointment of the pick, but so far, i’m seriously doubting it.
had he been picked later, then…well…what the hell. but 47th over all? ugg…
April 25th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
i think its so funny that Cable made a point when asked about taking an olineman saying.. we addressed that in teh offseason .. we brought in 3 guys to take care of that issue.. LOL.. HMMMM isnt that what i have been saying since i started posting here? we dont need an OT…
April 25th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
i dunno.. how long did it take JLH to bust out a couple 60 yarders at the end of the season.. i didnt see Russell on the ground very much when Henderson took over for Harris..
April 25th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
people say crabtree didnt want to be here but cant you see why when the guy running your team drafts like this the best players arent gonna want to play for you
April 25th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Im still in shock…i have been trying to talk myself into liking the picks…and i do like them just not where we took them..bad value IMO..but what can you do cry like bob or try to stand by your team no matter what
April 25th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
504,
Al made the picks, he is your guy that gets “paid” to make the picks…same guy that has us at 6 consecutive 11 loss seasons or something like that. This draft has set us back at least 3 years.
But, DHB and Mike Mitchell, welcome to the Raiders…it’s not your fault, we know who to blame when we watch Crabtree catch TDs across the bay, and Monroe block for a 1500 yard rusher, and Brace adding strength to an already good NE defense.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
goodnight guys lets get a good night sleep and try to do better tomarow lol night O
April 25th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Thank god for the Lakers.
night all.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Look. The draft was very consitant with our off season (except Garcia)…low key players with great spirit and, at least with Mitchel, great punch. Ive been drinking.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
wow wow wow
Who could have predicted this?
I hope tommorrow brinzs fewer suprises and a bit more sanity.
Mike Mitchell would have been around in the 3rd or 4th round for sure.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Mad Road Dog
I agree with you about Monroe at #7 but besides him and Raji I think the Raiders options were limited. Frankly, there was not that much elite talent in this draft. There was a really good linebacker a couple of good tackles and a bunch of other players that have some potential but flaws in their games or some sort of question marks. I bet if Cleveland did not make that deal at 5 that the Raiders would have pulled back at 7 to Washington’s 13 and took DHB. Since that did not happen Oakland had a very difficult choice. Take Monroe who may not be a good fit in a ZBS, take Raji who plays the same technique as Kelly so is somewhat redundant or take DHB or Macklin (which is a lot like Higgens). I think for what Oakland needed DHB was the best option now that I have had time to think about it.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
What tackle should we take with a top five pick in next year’s draft?
April 25th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Well, at least we already have our 6′2, 210, 4.30 WR and our 6′1, 220, 4.40 Safety, we’re probably done there.
Hopefully we’re going for big fellas tomorrow.
DHB and Mitchell might be ok, getting an extra 4th and 6th was nice…but in the end there’s no excuse for passing on Eugene Monroe.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Dakota….
I’ve been going through the madness of Al since 1968.
Having been in the Construction Business for 28yrs. I have learned where and where NOT to punch a wall…lol
April 25th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Raider Len
MM was probably gone by the end of the second. Did you not read what was said in the post by MacDonald? If you want to believe Kiper or McShay and or some other “guru” that did not even know the guy existed until two weeks then you may be more insane than you think Al is….
April 25th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
With the 5th pick in the 2010 nfl draft the Oakland Raiders select….
I’ll sleep on it…maybe…Russell Okung?
April 25th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
i consider this draft a success so far.. we didnt waiste a pick on an OLineman.. this is a very successful draft.. and there is no way Crabtree is the best player we could have taken.. Aaron Curry would have been had he been on the board when we picked..
April 25th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
whoever it is i’m sure he’ll be the 12th best at that position
April 25th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
im still laughing my butt off at these posts LOLOLOL
April 25th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
With the 5th pick in the 2010 nfl draft the Oakland Raiders select….
Taylor Mays or Eric Berry (maybe not though he plays for tennessee)
April 25th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Tomycar, you might be laughing, but everyone else knows the joke is on you.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Mad Road Dog
I agree with you about Monroe at #7 but besides him and Raji I think the Raiders options were limited. Frankly, there was not that much elite talent in this draft. There was a really good linebacker a couple of good tackles and a bunch of other players that have some potential but flaws in their games or some sort of question marks. I bet if Cleveland did not make that deal at 5 that the Raiders would have pulled back at 7 to Washington’s 13 and took DHB. Since that did not happen Oakland had a very difficult choice. Take Monroe who may not be a good fit in a ZBS, take Raji who plays the same technique as Kelly so is somewhat redundant or take DHB or Macklin (which is a lot like Higgens). I think for what Oakland needed DHB was the best option now that I have had time to think about it.
^^
Very well put. I don’t think there would have ever been a trade back personally but I agree that Monroe made more sense to me at the time. I still think it’s a risky as hell pick but you are spot-on w/ your assessment of the pick in light of the overall talent level in this draft.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
I hate the saying but: it is what it is.
What does this make us??? The fastest team not on turf.
Longball and one bad ass rushing offense with Miller tearing up the middle.
What next?
3) DE MJ or DT Gilbert
4) LB Beckwith
4) DE Brandon Williams
6) OT
7) OG
April 25th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Dakota
How did we get next years 5th overall – did we trade with the 49ers a few minutes ago or something
April 25th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
maybe traded down with the niners
April 25th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
I can’t wait for Singletary to bark at a pouting Crabtree and tell him to go to the showers. Then the press conference after the game.
“Can’t coach wit’em, can’t win wit’em, Can’t do it.”
April 25th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Here is a burning question I have:
Is the reason why Oakland was so bad at rushing defense because of a lack of talent in our front 7, a lack of talent at safety or a poorly run defensive scheme under Rob Ryan? If it is the latter we may improve without getting anyone. Regardless with Kelly coming off an injury, Sands underpreformng, and the general age and inconsistency of Warren we need help at DT! Find us that diamond in the rough… Rounds 4 through 6 have helped us find some good DL in the past.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Was Schilens abd JLH too slow??
I can understand the “Big Name” player in Crabtree (if you want to sell seats that is).
Anyway, James Jett is back!
Pray he turns into Steve Smith and not Satana Moss.
Middle linebacker, a DT and a DE!!!
Also, a guard and tackle for depth…enjoy signing and then cutting players after they have established a lease and moved in…God I love pain.
That’s why I am a Raider.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
I was totally pissed at the DHB pick when it happened. But when I think about it now if the Raiders had DHB rated higher than Crabtree who am I to say he doesn’t fit. He comes from a prostyle offense so he’s familiar with the route. I can’t explain how much of a advantage that is to this kid. There were no players around him.
When I think about the threat he brings to the team. I know what a Randy Moss factor is like especially when you have a QB like Russell. There is no way teams can load up against our running game. They have to keep a safety deep. The pundits say he can’t catch well Obviously the Raiders passed n some very good talent so they don’t agree.
DHB’s work ethic is so important I can’t tell ya’ how much of a difference that makes. James Jett never worked at football. If this kid does most of what fans are concerned about can be corrected. Most fans are invisioning 9 routes but his knowledge of the route tree allow him to run multiple routes and get open.
His attitude and work ethic mean a ton to me and it’s bvious Al Davis was not going to miss on this guy he passed on Crabtree that has to tell you something if you’re objective.
In the case of Mitchell just because teams didn’t know about him earlier means zero to me. That they had him come in for visits say a lot. 8 teams in the last month and his agent saying he could go in the 1st is what I was trying to say earlier. People talk about him being available in the 4th is crazy. Hell I culd see that from his youtube film. There was NO freakin Way this kid would last until the 4th rnd you’d have t be NUTS!. He really should’ve gone in the 1st with that kind of versatility. Not to mention his playmaking ability.
Guy’s each team must knw who and what they are and you simply can’t run your draft based on what another team thinks. You have your own system and needs you must address and approach the draft accordingly. Or else your very confused your drafting for the media and the fans. And you simply cannot do that.
Each draft has it’s own personality and you use that to your own advantage not according to someone else.
These two picks address the Oakland Raiders team and how they see what they think they need. Not fans not the experts and certainly not the media. It’s the owner the coaches and the scouts……….no one else.
We can bitch and moan but they know what they need and we as fans just have to wait and see if they were right.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
JWB-post 72-don’t feel bad about not knowing about mid to late rd prospects.most of the so called experts on TV and here don’t either.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
At first when I heard Darrius Heyward-Bey’s name come out of Roger Goodell’s mouth, I began contemplating a death threat to mail in to Al Davis. I wrote a quick little snippet article questioning his tactics.
But when I heard the conference call with DHB and the Cable Guy soon after, I instantly fell in love with the guy (no homo).
I would rather have a guy who wants to be there, and wants to do everything in his ability to make this franchise a playoff contender, instead of a Michael Crabtree who doesn’t want to be a Real Raider, who has a diva attitude, who mutters “whew” when passed on.
I’m glad we passed on this second coming of a T.O., this new and improved cancer.
Michael Crabtree was passed on by the Cleveland Browns, isn’t it interesting that they drafted two WRs rather than taking this so-called “special player.”
I feel ashamed that I was a long time advocate of this Michael Crabtree. I say good riddance to the man who possibly could and would have destroyed an already dismal locker room morale!
And when you look at DHB intangibles, he has the physical tools of a Randy Moss in his prime.
- Height: 6-3
- Reported personal record 40 time at 4.23 (would tie Deion Sanders for the fastest 40 ever)
He needs to works on his route running, and consistency with his hands. But I truly really like this guy, and he’ll help J-Russ keep his job, D-Mac have his breakout year, and stretch the field for our other receivers.
Plus, I really like the pickup of the darkhorse in Mike Mitchell. He was taken so highly only because the Bears were planning to take him from the Raiders, the thought that the Raiders would follow popular belief, and would attempt to take him in later rounds.
They must not know Al Davis…
He got the guy who dreamed of playing with the dynasty that is the Oakland Raiders, before the Chicago Bears could steal him only two picks later. Notice how they traded down immediately after we acquired Mike “The Chain Pike” Mitchell.
The Raiders are in a rebuilding phase, and they are trying to fill the locker room with guys who want to be there. They are trying to change the mentality of this organization. Even if it means taking guys who weren’t as lucky to be in a 100 percent passing spread offense.
Just like we don’t need head case free agents, we don’t need head case rookies…
My commitment to the Raiders had slightly faltered today, but know it is stronger than ever…
I Believe…Do you
April 25th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
1960 Autumn wind,
I was not listening to any of the “Gurus” as I was attending a fund Raiser for baseball.
Lay of the insults.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
I love the kid as a player, I just think we might have reached for him. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!The funniest thing about this statement is that it could go for either player we drafted today. However, in actuality, I was talking about Mike Mitchell. If his youtube film is anything like he really plays, then it looks like this kid hits like Ronnie Lott, with no exageration. DHB is an inexcubale pick at #7, and I will regret it until he has a 10 TD season, (which means I will hate him forever)It took him 3 seasons to score 13 TDs for god sake. We are doomed to suck until the death of Al Davis!
April 25th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Hey 15 year old
Raiders trading down is impossible – Just ask all the experts like Mel BadHairdayforever Kiper…
Al is too busy working with his stop watch to trade down…. He only trades up LOL
April 25th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Hey priesttj..
your DHB argument makes sense, if you are thinking clearly….
However we all know the deciding factor..
Fastest guy in the draft
April 25th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Al used the stop watch today.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Voldemort Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
I love the kid as a player, I just think we might have reached for him. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!The funniest thing about this statement is that it could go for either player we drafted today. However, in actuality, I was talking about Mike Mitchell. If his youtube film is anything like he really plays, then it looks like this kid hits like Ronnie Lott, with no exageration. DHB is an inexcubale pick at #7, and I will regret it until he has a 10 TD season, (which means I will hate him forever)It took him 3 seasons to score 13 TDs for god sake. We are doomed to suck until the death of Al Davis!
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inexcusable*
April 25th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Len
Sorry I offended you but it was clear in the recent posts that there was quite a bit of demand for Mitchell that was not picked up on by the “gurus” when they made their predictable pronouncement that the Raiders reached again….
April 25th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
I was extremely skeptical (pissed) when we drafted him, mostly because I wanted a lineman and hadn’t heard anything about this guy.
Now that I’ve read every bio and story and watched every training film and game highlight I could find, I might be in love with this guy. He’s gonna lay some wood, AND HE CAN COVER! I am actually confident he will live up to that second round draft choice.
Him playing behind Nnamdi will be every WR’s worst fear.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
R8,
Bro, it’s OK.
I’m not sold in DHB, and like most here I thought we can get him later if we trade down.
M Mitchell is a great pick, as he said his phone was ringing, and be thought it was the Bears. The kid was going to be drafted in the 2nd.
Meredith is there, so is M Johnson, C Baker, Clinton McD, Sidbury, T Taylor, Magee, and others.
This will be a good draft.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
AD= DOOOSH BAAAAAAG…… this guy will be cut after 1st season. as for DHB. maybe he suprises us? NOT!!!! another wasted 7 pick. there were SOOOO many position player that could of soildified our D. he wasnt even the top WR and that one was still avail. jesus FN christ.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
R8,
Good night Bro.
Tomorrow will be a great day, don’t worry.
Keep your head high bro, we got this.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
brien the general must be a pissed off fatass loser who never made it in high school football and have to rip on other people.
sure it was definintely a reach for DHB and Mike Mitchell, but those 2 are hard working players who will not be a lil b*tch like you.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
our 3 headed monster has no leg. 6-10 this year and another record of double digit loses. 7-9 if seabas dont miss 3 FG in one game.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
My commitment never wavers I just expecting to see lots of dropped balls by dhb and people defending him that he needs time he needs time great so we should start winning againg by 2012 that will only be what 10 losing seasons in a row!
April 25th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
So if dhb works hard and suck like dudley that’s okay cause he worked hard?
April 25th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Good Night Nation.
Tommorow will be fun.
Glad we got the extra 4th and 6th.
Mabey Burgess, Huff, Walter get moved tommorrow.
Autumn Wind,It’s all good. I don’t like the Mass Media Dorks. I’ll pull for anyone that is a Raider.
I hope Al and Cable are right.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Dakota-our oline was in worse shape last off season than this yet last year you weren’t concerned.funny how when someone loves a certain player their views become so jaded.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
I’m really high on Mike Mitchell. He’s got stellar measurables and his highlights show the instincts and hitting ability of Ronnie Lott. No joke. It’s a little scary that the analysts had him projected so low, but this is definitely one guy I wanted the Raiders to get at some point in this draft. I really wasn’t surprised we took him in the 2nd.
I do think DHB was a lousy pick at No. 7. I don’t see anything spectacular from this guy outside his 40-yard-dash at the Combine. Hope I’m wrong.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Ok Gents, let’s get back to the draft.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
I tried to tell Florida Pete and SnB that what they see is not exactly what the coaches see. The DT’s we have are better than what this draft had to offer. You can’t get mad because you feel differently same as myself thinking DHB was crazy. The coaches know what they have and what they don’t have and what the draft has to offer. I’ve said over and over again Raji wouldn’t start on this team.
Jeremy Maclin’s is totally different than DHB. DHB is bigger more physical and has a very good verticle he has a chance to be Crabtree but much faster maybe not as good of hands but his size and athleticism are interesting. He’s much more of a threat in the red zone a totally different player than JLH and our other WR closer to Chaz. If he can bring us a Randy Moss factor this could be a dominant WR corp.
AS I think about what the coaches were and Mr Davis’s vision it’s starting t make a lot more sense.
They are more secure with Mario than we want to believe as well as the other OT’s. We’ll see what tomorrow brings. But to say the least I’m not nearly as pessimistic as earlier, this is actually starting to excite me.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
CRACKRAIDER…
Keep the faith….
Just
Win
Now
Baby!!!
April 25th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Why are some of you still whining about us taking him too high? did you not read that Chicago was going to take him at 49?
When was the last time we have a headhunter in our safeties. WE’ve lived through some very bad safeties for a long long time. This guy will get the nation excited again the moment he KTFO a receiver coming over the middle.
I wanted Roy Williams but this is even better.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Please let mitchell be the safety we need can’t take another crappy safety pope,dorsett,gibson,huff,wilson and king of missing guys schweigert
April 25th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
last year at this time all i wanted for xmas was some ray ray maualuga.
i guess now that we’ll most likely have the chance, all i want for xmas next year is some tayler mays or whatever his name is. somehow, i doubt that having mitchell, huff branch and whoever else on the roster will make the raiders want to pass on him. at least, that’s what i hope. just in case, i’m contemplating selling my soul to make sure mays runs a sub 4.35 40. one can never be too sure.
god, i want to be proven so wrong with my opinion of these two picks. please, please make me eat crow.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
no-if DHB works hard and still sucks he’ll be a bust like 70% of the people drafted this or any other year.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Yeah they also went into last year thinking kwame harris would be a star and javon walker would light it up sorry but with are track record lately it is hard to get excited about fast guys with suspect hands.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
R8,
This is for you:
3- M Johnson/ Meredith/ Jarron Gilbert/ or Alex Magee
4- C Baker/ Dorell Scott/ Sammie Lee/ R Taylor/ or Khalif Mitchell. Or Sidbury.
4- J Williams/ Z Follett
6- Clinton McD
6- Depth
7- Bear Pascoe
April 25th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Here’s what I like in Round 3:
1) Michael Johnson, DE, G Tech
2) Duke Robinson, G, Oklahoma
3) Jasper Brinkley, MLB, S. Carolina
4) Jaron Gilbert, DE/DT, San Jose State
Still a lot of really good players out there. Really glad we picked up a 4th and 6th in that trade.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
i have hated AD the last few years but now i FUKKING hate him for these stupid A$$ decisions he always makes.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Rickey Dudley was just never got it. The mechanics of catching the football never made sense to him.
Comparing DHB to Jett and Dudley is out of spite. We were all pissed no one more than myself. DHB will never have elite hands but if he can his work ethic and will are going to pay off thay always do. Dudley never wanted to be great neither did Jett. This kid is totally different he wants to be great, when you aspire to be another Jerry Rice! it tels me he understands the work that needs to be done. Dudley and Jett never had that kind of will.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
DHB:
Ran a 4.30
39″ vertical
10-6 broad
April 25th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
all this waiting and excitment like a kid waiting for Xmas day to come. just to see your gift was a barbie instead of a GIJOE.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
NoMoreFargas Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Yeah they also went into last year thinking kwame harris would be a star and javon walker would light it up sorry but with are track record lately it is hard to get excited about fast guys with suspect hands.
^^
Fair enough but those were free agents. I think all agree here that we did well in that dept. this off-season. If you look at recent drafts, we have made some really nice picks, especially at WR and T. Schilens, JLH, Mario…not to mention Miller and Bush.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
i actually feel somewhat sorry for DHB.while it is a FACT that it usually takes WRs 2 or more years to develop in the NFL,some Raider fans will expect this kid to be Moss as a rookie.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
BHP,
I agree with met of your post, except the part that he never have elite hands. Rice had a lot of drops his 1st year, remember?
April 25th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
NoMoreFargas
Agreed on track record… There are even worse examples such as MeAngelo Hall for a second and a mega contract and the the Garbriel Wilson fiasco and the huge contract for a medicore DT. However, I am still not undertanding exactly what the Raiders did today that was so bad…
I mean they did reach for DHB – he probably would have went from about 15-25 but this guy was a 1st round receiver (but a good fit for what Oakland was looking for!). It appears they swopped up a 2nd round SS that was getting on everyones radar and then picked up two mid round picks in the process.
Think about some of these other teams – Detroit shells out 41 million for an average 1st round QB prospect. SF expends the 10th overall for a spread offense WR that is over hyped and has an attitude. It could be much worse….
April 25th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
BHP,
I agree with most of your post, sorry.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Cable thought he turn K Harris around we gave it a year it didn’t work. Luckily we drafted Mario someone Jerry said was another Davis wasted pick. WRONG
Most of you said JLH would never make it. WRONG
Here’s a thought what if Crabtree turns out to be a bust instead of DHB. Seems impossible to me but it could happen. Chances are they both will have great careers
April 25th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Wanting to be jerry rice and actually doing it are two different things , I compare him to dudley be cause how many time would dudley just burn by his guy and get wide open and bam right of the hands , if you are struggling to catch the ball in college i don’t expect you to have great hands in the pros and it’s funny good hands are something most good wr have .
April 25th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltm5OV8rTn0&feature=related
Watch this video of Heyward -Bey from about 5:28 on.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
A comment earlier asked about what if DHB works hard like Dudley but fails like Dudley, is that good?
There is a difference between them though. DHB has an aggressive playing style. When he takes off, he takes off flying. Dudley always came across like a “scholar” on the playing field, too much thinking and too hesitant. He seems to think all the way to the point of analyzing the ball until it hits the ground.
Dudley also came highly rated, with a lot of expectation. Dudley never showed he had the fire, Gruden had to push him in the beginning. DHB has a fire in him, seems humble, so if he maintains his mental discipline and workman like attitude, put in the work, translate that into instinctive plays in practice and on game days, he will at least be a solid WR and may even become somewhat dominating; we all hope!
April 25th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
# 504 Raider Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Crow,
Comparing the blazing speed and running go routes all day. OK would you rather me say Alvin Harper who did major damage for the Cowboys back in the day but the triplets got all the credit.
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Try Ashley Lelie. DHB is nothing like Moss.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Will never have, I can’t type. I need some R & R.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
OH well at least the mitchell pick will have me dreaming of a secondary of johnson,nhamdi,branch,mitchell.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!
April 25th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
# Raider O Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Crow,
Both are top 10 talent at their positions.
By the way bro,
Sometimes, less can be more!
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Top 10 by whose rankings?
Michael Johnson has huge athletic ability, but he’s a sloth. Utterly useless human being.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
where was it said DHB struggled to catch the ball.the ball wasn’t thrown his way very often.his college QB was a total bum.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
pic of DHB and rating for Madden 10
http://ll-100.ea.com/cem/u/f/GPO/easports.com/madden/madden10/img/Draft_Experience/cards/darriusHeyward-Bey.jpg
April 25th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Bey,Chaz,Jlh,Shields so can we get rid of walker now.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
I knew I forgot someone, Mitch king.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
Raider O, it’s the day of the draft and we’re writing players off and putting others in the HOF.
Let’s at least let them suit up first. Hell Rickey Brown was an UDFA and he’s our starting SLB.
Let’s just all relax a bit. I for one have never seen DHB play I just wanted what I wanted and they didn’t give it to me and I got pissed. For me to attack DHB and Al Davis was wrong, I haven’t seen him play.
So I’m putting everthing back in just perspective.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
DHB is rated -9 vs Crabtree in Madden
April 25th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
# 504 Raider Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
There was one Raider who was interviewed this week and asked his thoughts on the draft and what we should do. And I do believe that Nnamdi is a happy guy today.
Don’t know about you guys but I’m happy about the picks and will defend them. Me and nobody on here is getting paid to make evaluations on players and know how to decide who to get. We like guys based on heresay and some dimwits mock draftboard. I gotta go with the guys who get paid to do this stuff.
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“The guys who get paid to do this stuff” wouldn’t have drafted DHB #7 overall. That was all Al. Not a Raider scout. Not a Raider coach. Just Al and his god damn stopwatch.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Crow,
Most draft Boards.
You sure like to argue. lol
Do some research, and let me know what you think.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
As long as we get Johnson, Robinson or Brinkley I’ll be psyched going forward.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
NMF, you keep saying he can’t catch, have you seen him play? Or were you there when the Raiders worked him out?
It’s all hearsay, he was rated as a 1st rnd pick why?
April 25th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
DHB is a good pick since the raiders are a run oriented team so no WR is going to put up big numbers next season. MM will surprise alot of people.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Raider O,
The draft of Mitchell exposed 2 things.
1. Some of us knew Mitchell much better than Mayock and Kiper.
2. I keep on hearing how he’s not on the other pundits draft guide and it shows that they dont know each team’s scout as intimately as we do. Moreover, they read draft guides and pretend to know a whole lot. How can you not know a guy that was invited in by 15 teams?
April 25th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
i remember when he torched Cal last year.put on a pretty good show.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
BHP,
I’m too high on Mitchell, but I never said DHB will be great!!!
You said he will never have Elite hands, and I said Rice had a lot of drops his rookie year, and had problems dropping the ball his rookie season.
So,
Maybe DHB will have elite hands, and I agree. You also need to take your own advise, and don’t give up on his hands. He’s young and he can work on it like Rice did.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
Alisgod,
Exactly, well said.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
I appreciate all the positive and negative points from all of you that participated on the blog today and this evening.
No matter who you wanted we have to get behind Bey and Mitchell.
I know going to the games or watching them on TV I will still be a Raider Man and be there for this team.
I’m not going to burn any of the clothes or hats or give them away, I will still wear them and always be proud.
Tomorow is a new day, and the raiders may draft some guys to complete the desires of the teams needs, until then we all just need to give it all a chance to work through and see what happens.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
The most depressing draft I can remember in 40+ yrs
April 25th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
# priesttj Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
NMF, you keep saying he can’t catch, have you seen him play? Or were you there when the Raiders worked him out?
It’s all hearsay, he was rated as a 1st rnd pick why?
Then why do all the experts say that he could have been picked in the 2nd round by the faders
April 25th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Chris in NY
Man it’s late there, more power to you for hangin out in here tonight.
My comment to you is what happen to Rey?
April 25th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
madden 10 ratings is BS!!!
it has harvin and DHB equall in speed but harvin is better overall!!!
http://maddennfl.easports.com/draftpicks.action
April 25th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
I’ve seen film on dhb and his scouting report is he has trouble with his hands, I am doubtful but will give him his chance, come on priest this is al davis you know as well as i do he loves speed and size and when dhb ran that 4.27 he was destined for the Raiders I just hope he works out how many guy who don’t put up big numbers in college put them up in the pro’s .
April 25th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
KK
Come on… Remember when we drafted Seabass with the 17th overall pick…. I don’t think this is that bad. We reached about 10 slots for DHB other than that we got 2 mid rounders and may have gotten our new SS…
April 25th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Raider O, you’re right when you have the drive and will to go with the talent he has the sky is the limit.
I remember when Branch came in he couldn’t catch a cold. Later he had very reliable hands with work and desire. DHB is a very interesting talent I would lve t see soem film on him.
Left12, hw much of DHB did you see? and what was your impression?
April 25th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Guys,
Look at our Offense now,
If our O line is good with Mario, Gallery, Satele, Cooper, and Barnes.
Then:
We have Bush and Dmc, and both can run well.
When teams gave the box full, we can go deep and keep them honest.
Look for more production out of Miller and our Backs.
I love the pick but not at 7th, and not over Monroe.
But I do like the pick for the reason above.
JR has a lot of Targets, does be have an Oline?!
I think so. IMHO
April 25th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
KK-wasn’t it you who said if we wanted Mack we should get him regardless of how he was rated on others draft boards.well,isn’t this the same thing?the Raiders had Bey as the top WR and went and got him.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
buttholeprick
I was at CU when Branch played. 
He COULD catch a cold 
With everyone you blo you should be afraid of what you might catch 
April 25th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
BHP,
I agree, I want to watch tape on DHB.
What system they ran?
Did they have a QB, or RB?
Was he the only weapon on offense?
Did they have a TE, or another WR?
Did he drop catchable passes?
Was he double teamed a lot?
You have to look at all these things, let me know what you see pls BHP.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Priest,the only game i saw him play was against Cal.in that game he was great.i remember wondering who was this guy who kept burning Cals DBs.he left a hugh positive impression.Cal couldn’t stop him.caught everything thrown his way and was always open-a man against boys if you will.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
this is the best DHB footage I’ve seen yet. As he says, go to 5:28
Tommy Trojan25 Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltm5OV8rTn0&feature=related
Watch this video of Heyward -Bey from about 5:28 on.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
NMF. a lot of guy’s put up big #’s after college when they had average #’s college. That’s not as rare as you might think. Scheme or opportunity makes a big difference. Roger Craig didn’t do much in college neither did Terrell Davis. It happens more than you think.
DHB’s #’s are very average but he could very well develope in the pros. It wouldn’t shock me.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
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April 25th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
I agree priest but i said wr jerry rice was huge at mvs, moss killed at marshall, fitz was the man at pitt but I agree with you that the pro game is much different than the college game and with his size and speed he could be dangerous just hope he can catch the ball.
GO RAIDERS!!!!
April 25th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Oh well I’m off to drink priest, raider o,lefty ,nader later and lets kick a little azz this year!
GO RAIDERS!!!
April 25th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
i too was pod when they announced Bey as our pick,especially with Monroe on the board.but,the more i think about it,the more i like it.it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he didn’t turn out to be the best WR of the draft-at least better than Craptree and Maclin.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
we all do nmf, as i said i’ve never seen him play.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
lefty12 Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Priest,the only game i saw him play was against Cal.in that game he was great.i remember wondering who was this guy who kept burning Cals DBs.he left a hugh positive impression.Cal couldn’t stop him.caught everything thrown his way and was always open-a man against boys if you will.
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DHB stats that day, 2 catches 59 yrds and 1 TD??? what is great about that?
April 25th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Wow pretty good tube of Bey. He has to wait on a lot of his balls and when he gets an opening, he is gone. Reminds me of Kaufman when he has the ball in his hands. It’s a huge gamble and I hope it works out.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Left12, I’m having that same reaction. I guess it was the shock of it. Now that I’ve given it some thought I totally understand what they’re thinking and it makes sense. If this all comes together like they want it to……….WOW!
April 25th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
sorry-i thought it was the Cal game.i stand corrected-thanks Raiderrej.now i’m not sure what game it was,but i did see him and he was a beast.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
i wish the best of luck and stay optimistic but DHB is not worth #7. throughout his career at maryland he’s gone with a reception, atleast twice last year!!! not very productive for a #7 pick gamble.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
does anyone know if training camp is open to the public?
April 25th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Raiderrej, what’s your opinion of him? I’ve read that stat and wonder was the defense loaded against him or what?
Stats can say anything. The game plan may have been to run. anything. When I see that stat it says more about the coaching staff to me.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
the point isn’t if he was worth a 7th -the point is he was the WR the Raiders wanted and to get him they HAD to take him at 7 or lose him.so actually as far as the Raiders are concerned,he was worth a 7.you can’t get recp’t. if they don’t throw you the ball.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Wow. What a draft so far… but as shocked as I am, I am also intrigued.
I have heard of Mike Mitchell recently before the draft, and now after watching some highlights, and considering that highlights are supposed to make you look good, my impression of him besides the obvious hard hitting, is that he reads, and adapts pretty good to the play. You can see him read a play and once he gets a read, he commits to it. The only thing is that sometimes he will get a bad read, but this is when his improvising kicks in and he seems to adapt to the pretty good.
He also seems to have good timing arriving to the ball. Breaking up plays.
I’m starting to think this will be one of those picks that people will look back on and say, that gamble paid off.
DHB is more of a question mark to me. Who cares if he can run pass safeties if he can’t catch the ball when it hits his hands. And as hard as JR throws the ball, this could be a problem. However, I do think he will do better than most might think. Is he going to be the next Jerry Rice? I don’t think so, but he might give us a few things to cheer about. Interesting to see how he does in practice against Nnamdi.
If he makes a few plays on him, or is able to run pass him, than we might have something here.
On a separate note, notice how both guys mentioned God? We might’ve given character a lot more value this year.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
maybe im just bummed about it being #7 but I feel has a lot of upside. he did play in a run oriented offense and he has a lot of upside… ive heard cable compare him to moss, because moss ran 4.25 and DHB 4.27 but other than that their isnt any thing comparable…
moss left Marshall with 168 receptions for 3,467 yards and a school record 53 touchdowns.
and well DHB left with 138 catches, 2,089 yards and 13 TD’s. numbers dont lie!
April 25th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
i’m out for the night-getting rummy.here’s to a good day tomorrow.night all.
Raj-no,training camp isn’t open to the public-at least it never has been before.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
buttholeprick
you really have a high opinion of yourself 
Too bad that you’re not all that :mregreen:
April 25th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
Left12 that’s my point the fact that scouts still rated him so highly with those stats tells me they know he wasn’t at fault.
Like Cable said if he had been in Crabtree’s offense he would’ve caught 50 TD”s……..what does that tell you? and then they passed on Crabtree to get him.
So it’s not like they’re spewing sour grapes they could’ve drafted Crabtree if they thought he was better.
And when you realize that this kid must be something special because they passed on 4 very talented players. They might be wrong but they’re not lying the Raiders had DHB rated very high and wanted him badly.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Lefty12 Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
the point isn’t if he was worth a 7th -the point is he was the WR the Raiders wanted and to get him they HAD to take him at 7 or lose him.so actually as far as the Raiders are concerned,he was worth a 7.you can’t get recp’t. if they don’t throw you the ball.
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that i understand… its the heartache that comes with the losing and poor front office moves that linger. kinda like your first girlfriend that cheated on you and it always stays in the back of your mind… but you stick with her cause she’s… well your 1st. in this case #7
April 25th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
sorry-Rej.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
yeah… thanks LOL… lets hope we have a good one tomorrow
April 25th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
April 25th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Good Night NMF, sorry I was watching clips of DHB.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
nite all. it’ll be a long day tomorrow
April 25th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
I just really think we needed to address the O line.
After the Harris saga last year, i have lost a bit of faith in Cable’s OT free agent prospects. OT was a much bigger need then WR.
I am not sold on Henderson’s ability.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Good Night Lefty.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Meredith is still available.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
One thing is for sure. Al is taking huge gambles on these picks. Too bad the NFL doesn’t comp you for gambles like these…lol
Al is a High Roller.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:00 am
Here are some of the top options for sunday who I like…
If we don’t trade up for Michael Johnson then we wont get him, he’ll go to the Lions, Rams, or Chiefs, so let’s hope he goes to the Lions or Rams if we don’t trade up.
Duke Robinson would be a good pick if he’s still there because then we’d have a ready replacement for Carlisle and some real quality depth on the inside, which is particularly important for a running team.
Gilbert would be a great option to compete/rotate on the right side with Scott, hopefully with Kelly moving to the left DE spot if Burgess is traded.
Ricky Jean-Francois is one of my favorite defensive lineman and reminds me a lot of Tommy Kelly in that he can be effective as a base DE or as a 3-technique. He may even have room to add weight and play full time inside. I like this guy a lot.
Alex Magee is a player I like if Burgess is traded and kelly moves back to DE, or if Kelly bulks up and moves to nose, with Magee potentially playing the 3 spot. This is a high motor guy on the inside, that’s important.
Sidbury is the kind of athletic, aggressive, high motor prototype pass rusher that could replace burgess or offer serious competition on the right side. This is a guy I like a lot, regardless of where he is drafted.
Brinkley is a Raider, plain and simple. He’s the prototype throwback, run stopping MLB, drafting him would allow Morrison to move back outside where he looks like a more natural fit. He can see less time on run downsand play more signifcantly on passing downs as he is a more fluid athlete and solid tackler than aggressive block shedder. Brinkley is a beast.
Frantz Joseph is another LB I really like who could be a late round option. Watch some film on the guy.
Dorell Scott also has potential as a gap plugging DT, he’s another guy to look out for.
Kyle Moore and Kaluka Maiava are some USC starters who would have been stars at most programs around the nation. Moore has potential as a left side base end while Maiava could offer some real competition at SAM and be a special teams stud.
Maurice Evans is a late round flier option at DE who could explode, watch out for him.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:24 am
DTs:I like Baker, Magee, T Taylor, Khalif Mitchell, and Dorell Scott a lot.
DEs I also like Jarron Gilbert, M Johnson, Sidbury, and Clinton McD.
For LBs: I like JB, Marcus Freeman, J Williams, Z Follett, Russell Allen and Ty Sales.
OT: I like Metedith.
Chris Baker:
6′2 320
Ran a 4.9 40.
He reminds me of D Russell as far as talent, size, and speed.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:33 am
EMRaider, Al is not a high roller. If a guy goes to a ca-sino and loses his shirt every time he walks in, is he a high roller? No. He’s a loser. That’s what Al is.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:37 am
I also like OT Troy Kropog, he is a good fit at the ZBS.
We can fix all of our needs this draft, we added 2 more picks.
People say that wasn’t a good trade!!!
Move back 7 spots and pick 2 more picks, we got the best out of that deal.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:39 am
Keep going Al, make this draft a great one.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:44 am
I think we will draft Meredith, Troy Kropog, or M Johnson a lot in the 3rd.
A LOT
Both OTs are great for the ZBS, and both are available.
Al had a plan, trust me.
Our draft is starting to shape up, let’s see what we do tomorrow.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:48 am
Good night Nation.
Tomorrow can me a great day, and don’t give up.
R8, and others,
This can be a great draft, I can feel it.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:50 am
I amost forgot,
It’s not too Crazy to draft a MLB now like say JB, he can play 2 downs, and come out on passind downs so we can have kirk and TH there. Just a thought.
Later Nation.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:43 am
Value = Performance
Have to wait and see but I like that they are going to pursue the no designation safety.
Ryan mentioned this a year or two ago saying teams on offense could read the D set if they went in motion and adjust accordingly.
Oaklands D mind set with safeties is theirs your half, heres mine.
No strong, no free.
Maybe, just maybe they ‘ve got the guys to do it right.
April 26th, 2009 at 7:09 am
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Let’s see… all of you that claim to be Raiders fans seem to have more disgust for OUR team than I do for the patriots. Why don’t you all go buy yourselves brady jerseys? And buy your kids moss jerseys while you’re at that. No wonder the analysts dump on Oakland, when you supposed “fans” do. We’re better off without you.
And consiidering WE had a better draft than all the other AFC West teams WE should be ecstatic. Notice how the broncos have 7 rbs now?
Now look at OUR draft. DHB fits what WE want to do. You want crabtree so bad then play the lottery, win it five times and buy a team and get him. Quit your crying and 49er fans might be happy now but here’s a funfact.
Crabtree is second in conference history with 41 tds, right? That’s why everyone loves him, right? Well in 2004 the 49ers drafted, in the first round, a WR by the name of Rashaun Woods who happens to hold the all-time conference record with 42 td catches.
DHB will be better than crabtree because playing the best CB in the league can make playing against other CBs like a cakewalk.
By the way did you see crabtrees little suit? Silver suit, he wanted to be a Raider but thought he might get taken by the seahawks so he took on the silver. What a poser. At least Jamarcus wore the right color.
And you same crybabies who are whining over Huff now have a problem when WE get a safety? Wtf is wrong with you? We got a SLB, part of a team who made sanchez and company look second rate. We got DE to help the pass rush and excuse me if WE didn’t trade up for Johnson, who knew what marvin lewis was thinking outside of rey mauluga?
Al Davis is a genius. As long as he doesn’t choose who everyone else wants instead of who he wants like say when he let callahan take Gallery when Al obviously wanted Sean Taylor. So bite your tongues you doubters.
As with every diehard Raider fan will agree with me… WE will win the SUPERBOWL this year.
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