Norris the pick at No. 126
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, April 26th, 2009 at 10:33 am in Oakland Raiders.
Oregon State linebacker Slade Norris is the Raiders selection in the fourth round, No. 126 overall.
“Needs to get bigger and stronger to stick as a backup,” according to the Pro Football Weekly guide.
Norris is 6-foot-2, 236 pounds. He’s also played some defensive end for the Beavers. Listed as a seventh-round or free agent prospect by Prosportsxchange.
At Oregon State, Norris arrived as a safety, morphed into a situational pass rusher and as a senior started 13 games with 10 sacks and 18.5 tackles for losses. He had 19 career sacks.
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April 26th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Why???!
April 26th, 2009 at 10:35 am
BIOGRAPHY: Senior totals included career numbers of 57/18.5/10 when he became a full-time starter. Junior numbers included 16/10/9 when he moved from linebacker to defensive end prior to the start of the season.
POSITIVES: Hard-working yet undersized college defensive end who makes a lot of plays up the field. Intense competitor who displays speed off the edge, flies around the ball, and consistently makes plays behind the line of scrimmage. Immediately changes direction or alters his angle of attack, fast in every direction. Turns on his speed in one quick step and chases the action hard.
NEGATIVES: Easily knocked off balance by the first block, and slow to shed once engaged at the point. Rarely asked to make plays in space or moving in reverse.
ANALYSIS: Norris displayed a lot of improvement the past three seasons, and he has the physical skills to be used as a weak side linebacker in the NFL if he improves his play in coverage.
PROJECTION: Free Agent
April 26th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Don’t get this one. Don’t mind the Murphy pick. Thought if we didn’t go WR in the first, this was a guy that I wanted.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:35 am
i just don’t know what to say…
April 26th, 2009 at 10:35 am
YES!!!!!
A back up LB…WOOOHOOO!!!
We needed that way more than an O-lineman!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 10:36 am
A linebacker? I’m down with it (unless everyone thinks that Brown, Condo and Alston are the answers at SSB).
April 26th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Slade Norris
At least he has the coolest name in the Draft…
April 26th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Another FA/7th rounder.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:36 am
hey al…
i got a neighbor kid who mows lawns…
i think he’s got sh1tloads of potential…
and he could use a job…
April 26th, 2009 at 10:36 am
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f887f8
April 26th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Micheal Mitchell was also projected to be a free agent.
Why are we wasting our picks…DHB was a waisted #7 pick as well.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Marley I agree
It doesn’t get much better than that. I love the Louis Murphy pick though.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:38 am
2 WR to eliminate Holland/Watkins
Safety we needed for depth
DE was a need for depth
LB was a depth need as well
All in all, not the best choices at the positions but enough youth to bring competition in training camp and add much needed depth to the defense. I’d still love to see the last 2 picks used on a DT, FB, TE, or extra O-Lineman.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:38 am
STs player folks.
That’s important too!
April 26th, 2009 at 10:38 am
pathetic… no help for defense to stop the run.. we stink… no help for russell to stay on his legs on offense… its like giving your armed forced tons of weapons but no bullets or armor
April 26th, 2009 at 10:38 am
i really am starting to get pissed…
April 26th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Wow! A lot of venom spewing for a fourth-round pick. Get a grip, people!
April 26th, 2009 at 10:39 am
we can still get Brinkley in the 5th… or will Al draft a RB?? or a QB?
April 26th, 2009 at 10:39 am
# RaiderDuck Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 10:36 am
A linebacker? I’m down with it (unless everyone thinks that Brown, Condo and Alston are the answers at SSB).
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NEGATIVES: Easily knocked off balance by the first block, and slow to shed once engaged at the point. Rarely asked to make plays in space or moving in reverse.
Another STer posing as a LB. Al Davis is the truth.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:39 am
no…
i am pissed…
April 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am
CHECK THEM OUT HERE,,,
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-team/dt-by-position-input:rb/dt-by-team-input:oak/dt-by-round-input:1
April 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am
# Florida Pete Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 10:38 am
i really am starting to get pissed
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Starting to get pissed? Have you only been a raider fan for the last hour or so?
April 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Louis Murphy
DHB
JLH
Javon Walker
Chaz Schilens
Arman Shields
WTF are we gonna do with all of these developmental recievers?
April 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Should’ve traded down from our 7 spot…picked up a 2cnd or 3rd round…still got DHB…traded up a little bit to grab Maualua…then trade up a little bit to get Micheal Johnson…then get Micheal Mitchel if they really wanted him…and then o-lineman.
Another speedy inconsistent WR and a backup LB????
WTF??????
All of us could’ve done a better job than this…just like on Madden! LOL
April 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Well, that about says it all…they liked the D-Line and O-Line so much they decided not to bring in any meaningful competition….
Wow…Shields is done! that’s for sure. He is done, camp cut outta here
April 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Another undersized lb whoo when we finish bottom 5 against the run again I’ll wonder why.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:41 am
so this is a weak pick – lots of better LB prospects on the board, but of course they didn’t run 4.6 40’s – al probably thinks he got Clay Matthews value in the 4th round – whatever – this is a crazy draft – maybe he develops into something special, but he’s definetly a project player.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Brinkley will be playing in our division…
for someone else…
we’re drafting special teamers and candidates for the special olympics…
dammit…
April 26th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Norris apparently had 19 sacks over the last two years, and I Do remember him playing very well in the OSU-Pitt bowl game.
I’m still annoyed, I wanted Brinkley, Meredith, Robinson, or Jean-Francois. We need to get one of these guys. These are good players.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:42 am
# BART Bridge Blues Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Louis Murphy
DHB
JLH
Javon Walker
Chaz Schilens
Arman Shields
WTF are we gonna do with all of these developmental recievers?
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Not much when Russel is getting his face pounded in because our f*cking line can’t block a single thing.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:43 am
What’s the most catches chaz,jlh,bey ever had in a season even in college, well good luck j-russ cause it looks like were going with another year of bad line play on both sides. Big al football is won in the trenches!
April 26th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Can’t believe Slade Norris was selected ahead of Brinkley. That can’t make you happy Florida Pete. I see Norris as a special-teams contributor and that’s about it. Might as well took the flyer on Brinkley.
Murphy was pretty-good value, but they should have taken a DT.
Al is giving Jamarcus and the offense lots of speed and talent. Guess we are going to try to out-score people and force them to throw the ball on us. If we don’t score points next year and get off to good starts in games, we might be screwed.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:44 am
except this dude is a Strong Side Linebacker……. JAMON MEREDITH WAS STILL THERE………………….
April 26th, 2009 at 10:44 am
# slvrblkprince Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am
# Florida Pete Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 10:38 am
i really am starting to get pissed
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Starting to get pissed? Have you only been a raider fan for the last hour or so?
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LMFAO!
April 26th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Wow 19 sacks the last two years? Not bad. Hopefully he won’t end up like Quentin Moses.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:45 am
We might as well trade all of our draft picks and just pick up guys that don’t get drafted…this is frustrating
April 26th, 2009 at 10:45 am
pet projects
April 26th, 2009 at 10:46 am
so is Slade Norris the ST replacement for M. Cooper?
April 26th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Here’s to hoping we get some more picks! See ya Walter, fingers crossed.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Cable says we got who we wanted even the next rounds good ole mr 22 game balls.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:47 am
This is what happens when the old man gets pissed, fires his college player evaluating HC and decides he can do it better!
There is a decisive difference this year than the past 2, no question. How many times has Kiffin fallen off of the couch watching this go down??
April 26th, 2009 at 10:48 am
I like it..i think it’s a solid pick for depth…GO Raiders!
April 26th, 2009 at 10:48 am
You guys have an issue because we are getting DEs who can rush the passer?
Need I remind you that sack leader had 5 last year?
Two DEs who are going to get after the QB?
Sounds good to me! So what if I didn’t know who they were. I accept the fact that I don’t get paid to do this, lol!
April 26th, 2009 at 10:48 am
# IndianaRaider Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 10:46 am
so is Slade Norris the ST replacement for M. Cooper?
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If he makes the roster.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Why no Follett or at least Brinkley? This Slade guy sounds an awful lot like Ricky Brown! At least Follett is tough can hit and can shed blocks! I was ok with yesterday but today is starting to make me wonder. The murphy pick is alright though.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:48 am
I guess one way to look at things is, is that you try to find your weaknesses and make them your strenthgs. So we did that with our WR’s this year.
Next year we will have to do it with our D-line, because we are going to be awful against the run again this year. Don’t think Mike Mitchell is going to save the run D.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:49 am
JHILL…
What are the DE’s that you are talking about???
I don’t know of any DE’s that can get to the QB on this draft board….
April 26th, 2009 at 10:49 am
How can you tell if you’re having an anurism?
I don’t feel well.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:50 am
These draft picks..the underlying theme is “hard worker”
Fine…its Al’s money…not mine…but Justin Fargas had better NOT be the starter over Bush/DMAC
April 26th, 2009 at 10:50 am
All I can say is WHY? Of all the bad drafts we’ve had in the past ten years, at least on paper this one looks like it could potentially be the worst
April 26th, 2009 at 10:50 am
vegas raider Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 10:48 am
I guess one way to look at things is, is that you try to find your weaknesses and make them your strenthgs. So we did that with our WR’s this year.
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No they didn’t. Al drafted fast guys. Hilarious draft.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:52 am
PLEASE GUYS WATCH THIS…
http://www.nfl.com/videos
April 26th, 2009 at 10:52 am
2008 draft: HB, 2 WR’s, Safety and a DE
2009 draft: LB, 2 WR’s, Safety and a DE
How are we improving this team exactly?
April 26th, 2009 at 10:52 am
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April 26th, 2009 at 10:53 am
So the issue with our WRs is that they are fast?
You’d rather have a slow WR?
April 26th, 2009 at 10:53 am
When it comes to convention expect the unconventional with the Raiders. I thought our actions in free agency boded well for the draft but I was terribly wrong. Ask yourself, how many of this picks will be able to contribute right away?
April 26th, 2009 at 10:54 am
IndianaRaider Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 10:46 am
so is Slade Norris the ST replacement for M. Cooper?
^^ that’s what i was thinking
April 26th, 2009 at 10:56 am
BART Bridge Blues Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 10:52 am
2008 draft: HB, 2 WR’s, Safety and a DE
2009 draft: LB, 2 WR’s, Safety and a DE
How are we improving this team exactly?
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LOL!
He’s keeping at in until he gets it right!
NO ONE except TT liked the SChillens pick last year. You guys were ready to cut JLH when he ran that punt straight OOB. You can’t stand Walker.
But we did need a WR or two?
April 26th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Crow Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 10:50 am
vegas raider Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 10:48 am
I guess one way to look at things is, is that you try to find your weaknesses and make them your strenthgs. So we did that with our WR’s this year.
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No they didn’t. Al drafted fast guys. Hilarious draft.
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There was speed, size and talent issues with our WR core last year. That was addressed. Louis Murphy cames from a national championship team where he was a big contributor and played against the best competition. He should be solid and compliment Schilens as the possession receiver.
We will still struggle to win due to the D and stopping the run. Just trying to look at the positives.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:56 am
JHILL…
No…just ones that can catch!!!
And why take a projected late first round pick with the #7 pick??
Could’ve traded down…picked up more picks later in the draft…still got DHB and saved about 10 million by not having to pay him #7 money!!!!
MAKE SENSE RIGHT????
April 26th, 2009 at 10:57 am
# SnB Defense Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 10:50 am
These draft picks..the underlying theme is “hard worker”
Fine…its Al’s money…not mine…but Justin Fargas had better NOT be the starter over Bush/DMAC
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You i feel the same way SnB!!
April 26th, 2009 at 10:57 am
murphy is a good value pickup at least – they say he was underutilized because of florida’s gimmick offense featuring rb/wr percy harvin and tebow. He actually ripped off a 4.32 40 yard dash, not a 4.43 – you can’t sneak a sub 4.4 past Al!!!! LMAO (again).
whatever, at least we didn’t draft that Jamaican 100 meter sprinter – and JR does have legit 1st round talent to throw too (DHB and Murphy) – other than Brinkly or a flyer on a OG that we could turn into a NT, I didn’t see much with this draft – of course if we were going to draft a LB, I’d have preferred to make it one that wouldn’t be available as a undrafted FA. Someday we’ll get our thumper MLB in the middle and a non-weakside LB or converted DE playing SLB…maybe.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:58 am
There goes Kropog.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Jacobs, Portis, Barber/Jones, Westbrook/McCoy, Moreno (2), LT/Sproles(2), LJ(2), McGahee/Rice & 40 carries, Green/Mendenhall
Man oh man oh man
April 26th, 2009 at 10:59 am
This has to be the worst draft selections by a team in the history of all drafts. Al Davis has totally lost it and is apparently senile.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:00 am
“There was speed, size and talent issues with our WR core last year. That was addressed. Louis Murphy cames from a national championship team where he was a big contributor and played against the best competition. He should be solid and compliment Schilens as the possession receiver.
We will still struggle to win due to the D and stopping the run. Just trying to look at the positives.”
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Doesn’t really work when you’re making up positives. Murphy runs bad routes and is by no means a possession receiver. he’s a downfield threat, same as DHB.
In 4 rounds, this team is no better than it was a year ago. Pathetic.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:02 am
SnB Defense ,
i told you next years draft is more talented at dt and marshall was going to have to fall on his face before changes are made on defense.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:02 am
OK, here’s the plan.
Go back to work tomorrow(if you dare) and avoid all draft related talk. It will be extremely difficult if you work with Chargers, Chiefs, Patriots, 49er and Broncos fans(which I do). However, I did notice there are locks on the bathroom stalls.
I think it’s time to start working from home….
April 26th, 2009 at 11:02 am
No 5th round pick. Maybe we can get a 5 for Burgess. Hilarious draft.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Well, next year we should have another top 10 pick if not top 5…so we will be in perfect position to get a great DT!!!
Or another RB/WR/CB!!!
lol
April 26th, 2009 at 11:03 am
This is like watching the “Replacements” or “Major League”. Cable must be out of his mind if he truly agrees with these picks!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 11:03 am
I said a couple days ago.
“That after a relatively sane off-season thus far, why am I getting a nervous feeling that Al is going to do something insane in the draft.”
Well, the crazy old fart certainly has. Hasn’t he?
Sometimes, you got to laugh to keep from crying…
April 26th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Honestly..i think alot of people are sleeping on our wide receiver group..All u disgruntled Raider Fans, don’t hop back on the wagon when we start winning games…i don’t wanna hear sh!t.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Im starting to get pissed off at the fans on here. A lot of you are talking like you have a clue about what your talking about. Not you, not me, and especially not the “experts”. They get paid to make “educated” guesses. Keyword being guess. The same people who Ryan Leaf and Akili Smith would be great QBs and said LT(tomlinson) was a right out bust during the draft. At the same time they say if you believe you can get a player that fits your system to go and get your guy, but……if you don’t follow their advice you had a bad draft. Too many of you take their word as fact. If they were any good at their job they would be working for an nfl team. Its easy for them to critize when they don’t have their neck on the line. Give the new rookies time to play and lets see what they can do.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:04 am
No…just ones that can catch!!!
And why take a projected late first round pick with the #7 pick??
Could’ve traded down…picked up more picks later in the draft…still got DHB and saved about 10 million by not having to pay him #7 money!!!!
MAKE SENSE RIGHT????
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Yeah, if you could get someone to trade with you in the late teens, and if Baltimore didn’t beat you to him.
Projected by who to go late 1st rd? He was projected in several mocks as a top 10 pick. I know I know, it was to us in the top 10 but most credible mocks had him going to us. It shouldn’t have been that big of a surprise.
And the same people that had Mitchell in the 5th rnd or later admitted on TV they made a mistake and the Raiders were right for going to get there guy. Same with DHB. There is no other WR that can offer the vertical stretch that he can. We don’t need Crabtree or Maclin and their underneath stuff. Who was the better option for what THE TEAM says they needed?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:05 am
blackdeath29 Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:02 am
SnB Defense ,
i told you next years draft is more talented at dt and marshall was going to have to fall on his face before changes are made on defense.
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Told you Maclin was a slot receiver from an inflated offense
April 26th, 2009 at 11:05 am
follet, Brinkley, baker, merideth, fulton are all guys I thought would be gone the 3rd round. I thought the raiders would be lucky to grab them if they fell.
If you are honest, every other team has passed on these guys as well.
Slade norris is a speedy pass rusher. He is developmental player. Cowboys must have took who the raiders targeted in Brandon williams. Norris must be comparable.
louis murphy is a good pick.
I thought murphy was a 3rd round pick and the raiders would be looking at someone like tiquan underwwod in the 4th.
I will take it.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:06 am
This has been a great draft if you are drafting a track team. Unfortunately, at some time in their career, they are going to have to go against “real” football players where they will probably have their a$$es handed to them. At least we can look forward to being the “quickest” off they field.
This year’s draft is the AD Draft. He obviously is going to prove to all the nay-sayers that he knows more than anyone else – after all he IS Al Davis, a football god. What a load and we are having to pay for it in spades – futility and more years in the cellar. He has really lost his mind. Some one needs to put him down. Enough is enough. Based on this year’s choices & decisions, we belong in the Arena League.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Cable will find any extra line help as FA signings when the draft ends. We’re already better after getting Bharnes and Pears.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:08 am
I am pretty sure the Raiders are gonna get a big fat F- for this draft from every publication that gives grades. This is without a doubt the most useless draft I have ever seen from the Raiders. The scariest thing is that I think Tom Cable really did have a lot of input into the selections… but what else should we have expected from Al and the coach who brought us Kwame Harris?
I wonder who our next head coach is going to be? If the pattern holds, it will be another young offensive guru…
April 26th, 2009 at 11:09 am
# JB Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:06 am
This has been a great draft if you are drafting a track team. Unfortunately, at some time in their career, they are going to have to go against “real” football players where they will probably have their a$$es handed to them. At least we can look forward to being the “quickest” off they field.
This year’s draft is the AD Draft. He obviously is going to prove to all the nay-sayers that he knows more than anyone else – after all he IS Al Davis, a football god. What a load and we are having to pay for it in spades – futility and more years in the cellar. He has really lost his mind. Some one needs to put him down. Enough is enough. Based on this year’s choices & decisions, we belong in the Arena League.
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Quoted for speaking the Godda*n Truth!
April 26th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Al’s not giving Marshall much to build on here.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:09 am
We got great value with Murphy, but I’m wondering about the Norris pick.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:10 am
jbsays is right…we will be fast to punt and our DB’s can chase donw TD’’s from behind like no other team after getting beat..its glorious
April 26th, 2009 at 11:10 am
we have made the most questionable picks in a poor draft
April 26th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Louis Murphy did well in the SEC. He is more than a “track guy”. The SEC weeds those guys out pretty quickly most of the time.
O-line and D-line in the draft of 2010, and we are competing for the division for years to come.
I’m off to go drink some kool-aid and enjoy the day!
April 26th, 2009 at 11:11 am
DHB: Was a track All-American in high school
Murphy: Was also a member of the Gators track and field team.
Never fails.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Like I said before…the offense showed itself to be pretty good when DMAC/Bush, JLH, Schilens and Henderson. That’s why I was so big on the defense. I was proven right. Now, can DHB contribute? He’s got the speed, but he’s gotta beat his clone in Schilens who already has a year on him. If he beats Schilens out….fine….Hopefully Schilens beats out Walker.
As for the defense…the Raiders did nothing to improve that side of the ball, except hire John Marshall.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Some more Mitchell comments….
“Yes, I heard them,” Mitchell, a well-spoken young man, said Sunday. “That’s OK. Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. … I think I value the opinion of scouts who actually get paid to make their opinions. All I know is the Oakland Raiders made me their second-round pick and I’m determined to make Mr. [Al] Davis know he made a fine pick.”
Mitchell said he’ll keep Kiper’s comments close to him for the rest of his career. In fact, Mitchell said he is in the process of getting a picture of Kiper. Mitchell plans to decorate his Oakland locker with it.
“It will carry me through my career,” Mitchell said. “It will serve as motivation for me.”
Good Stuff!!
April 26th, 2009 at 11:13 am
norris had 58 tackles 18 tfl 10 sacks as a de in the pac 10.maybe they plan packing on some weight and in 2 years this is a good draft.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Fukk!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Murphy, DHB, JLH, Schillens, Arman Shields, and Javon walker is a deep WR core. The radiers now have depth at RB, and WR.
The raiders have a decent o line with Henderson, Barnes, Gallery, cooper, satele, wade, morris, pears, Mcquistain, Martin. they like Green as well. They need more talent to go along with this list of names, nut they apparently like them enough to keep passing on players that would fit in the zb scheme.
D line is weak up the middle but now there is plenty of pressure of the ends. Burgess, Scott, shaugnessey, richardson, Gunheim, and I think Slade Norris will be asked to pass rush amongst other things as well.
Te needs some depth. Bear Pascoe in the 6th would be a nice move.
lB core is filled with fast smallish guys who feel out the specials really well: Alston, Brown, Ekujiba, and now Norris to go along with the two starters.
DB is covered
April 26th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Call me stupid but why pay top dollars for players who are considered projects. Value is not there for the selected players.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:14 am
is renaldo nehamiah still available? or Carl lewis?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:14 am
# JB Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:06 am
we belong in the Arena League.
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Oakland is a .500 team at best in the Arena League.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:15 am
SnB Defense ,
michael mitchell is an improvement.maybe they can go dt with the last three picks and just hope too hit on one.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:15 am
I would be willing to bet that a monkey throwing darts at a “draft board poster,” listing the names of the draftees, would have done better than Al has done. And, we wouldn’t have to listen to Cable stating: “Excellent draft, these were the selections we were targeting.”
April 26th, 2009 at 11:15 am
the main needs after the draft are DT and TE, and more prospects at OT. Can you ever really have enough OT’s?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:15 am
I believe these selections are meant to compete as a track team for the Olympics..LOL
April 26th, 2009 at 11:15 am
South FLA Raider Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Some more Mitchell comments….
“Yes, I heard them,” Mitchell, a well-spoken young man, said Sunday. “That’s OK. Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. … I think I value the opinion of scouts who actually get paid to make their opinions. All I know is the Oakland Raiders made me their second-round pick and I’m determined to make Mr. [Al] Davis know he made a fine pick.”
Mitchell said he’ll keep Kiper’s comments close to him for the rest of his career. In fact, Mitchell said he is in the process of getting a picture of Kiper. Mitchell plans to decorate his Oakland locker with it.
“It will carry me through my career,” Mitchell said. “It will serve as motivation for me.”
Good Stuff!!
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Love it!! I commented about that earlier today on the past thread, keep those comments in your sight everyday .
April 26th, 2009 at 11:15 am
You guys need to look at the “experts” track record do any of them have a superbowl ring? Sure Al hasn’t done so well in the last six years (or 10)but hey theirs still a chance we can get someone in the last two rounds who………..
Oh forget it I can’t even watch this garbage anymore, this is just a big F-U to the fans.
At least with all this speed they are drafting they will be able to get off the field quick on 4th and 20 so the other team can ram it down our throats with a 45 second drive.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:16 am
South FLA Raider Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Some more Mitchell comments….
“Yes, I heard them,” Mitchell, a well-spoken young man, said Sunday. “That’s OK. Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. … I think I value the opinion of scouts who actually get paid to make their opinions. All I know is the Oakland Raiders made me their second-round pick and I’m determined to make Mr. [Al] Davis know he made a fine pick.”
Mitchell said he’ll keep Kiper’s comments close to him for the rest of his career. In fact, Mitchell said he is in the process of getting a picture of Kiper. Mitchell plans to decorate his Oakland locker with it.
“It will carry me through my career,” Mitchell said. “It will serve as motivation for me.”
Good Stuff!!
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Good Sh!t Mitchell!
April 26th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Bears just “reached” for Johnny Knox, lol
April 26th, 2009 at 11:16 am
dickv/ you are very glass half full…we passed on tons of better players incud ing 20 DT’s…murphy reminds me of carlos francis texas tech..he ever catch a ball?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:17 am
worst draft ever.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Is this right?
QB = Russell / Garcia
RB = DMAC / Bush
FB = O’Neal
WR = Heyward-Bey / Walker
WR = Schilens / Murphy
Slot = JLH
TE = Miller / Stewart
LT = Henderson
LG = Gallery
C = Satele
RG = Carlisle
RT = Barnes
April 26th, 2009 at 11:19 am
SnB. That’s so wrong. But it’s accurate
April 26th, 2009 at 11:20 am
jk, if the WRs can develop quickly it’s a decent lineup.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:20 am
snb defense….that looks sad..
April 26th, 2009 at 11:20 am
I think the Raiders should play that clip of Kiper at the games everytime Mitchell knocks someone out!!
April 26th, 2009 at 11:20 am
AND, the line must show MARKED improvement in pass protection or forget the whole thing. That’s where the lack of depth makes me nervous.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Mitchell: Looks to be good and fills a need with Wilson gone. Good against the run and hits like Tatum.
HB: Could be great for Russell if Cable can convince him to hold onto the ball. It could be pretty great with HB, Chaz,JLH and Miller.
Murphy: Actually a good, and of course fast down the sideline, receiver.
Norris: Cable has to know something about Slade given Cable’s connections up there. So far about all we know is that he won’t kill insects.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:21 am
# SnB Defense Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Is this right?
QB = Russell / Garcia
RB = DMAC / Bush
FB = O’Neal
WR = Heyward-Bey / Walker
WR = Schilens / Murphy
Slot = JLH
TE = Miller / Stewart
LT = Henderson
LG = Gallery
C = Satele
RG = Carlisle
RT = Barnes
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Somebody honestly try and tell me how this team wins 8 games.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:21 am
i really like the murphy pick. what happened to the linebacker from cal? the raiders were supposedly extremely high on him werent they??
April 26th, 2009 at 11:21 am
# SnB Defense Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Is this right?
QB = Russell / Garcia
RB = DMAC / Bush
FB = O’Neal
WR = Heyward-Bey / Walker
WR = Schilens / Murphy
Slot = JLH
TE = Miller / Stewart
LT = Henderson
LG = Gallery
C = Satele
RG = Carlisle
RT = Barnes
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I think they’d do better with the cast of The Longest Yard.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:21 am
We cannot go through this draft at least not taking one OT. Just give us one Al!!
April 26th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Dickv,
Agree with you about the WRs and OTs
The defense is the same as it was Saturday morning.
Except, Scott will take over as the starter on the right side and Burgess will start on the left side.
Those other DEs/DTs are fill-ins until, as Blackdeath29 says, the Raiders fall on their collective face and decide to address the D-Lines next year
April 26th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Have we forgotten that this was one of the “sorriest” drafts on record! It is what it is!
April 26th, 2009 at 11:22 am
I’m going to the pub before Al does the last pick.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Good pick by the Donkeys, WR McKinley
April 26th, 2009 at 11:23 am
What is you’re beer of choice ENGLANDRAIDER?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:23 am
N orris had 19 sacks in 2 years in the PAC-10 WOW.Cable IS getting players who are HUNGRY
April 26th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Good story on Norris. As an Oregon Duck fan I hated him, but as a Raiders fan I’ll welcome him aboard.
http://www.portlandtribune.com/sports/story.php?story_id=122409496513430200
April 26th, 2009 at 11:23 am
We got two solid WR prospects. one solid SS. A DE that has speed and size. A lB that can be on the specials and develop into a pass rusher,
Yoy can’t always get what you want.
We needed a WR badly. Everyone agreed with that in one way or another. Crabtree does not equal DHB and Murphy. The raiders seriously upgraded that position this weekend. DE got upgraded considerably this weekend.
The Strong Safety position just got a lot more competitive with both Tyvone Branch and Mitchell able to play there. Huff can still man the position if needed. Hiriam Eugene is one of the team leaders according to Cable.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:23 am
How are all of these good linemen, and brinkley still available?
Has the whole league simply forgot about them?
These are second round players…there’s your value!
April 26th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Post 80 Bart:
Can’t agree with you there. This draft is “totally” Al Davis. Al makes all the picks. If Al was to take advise from his head-coach on a draft selection, it would have to be after years of winning as a head-coach. Cable has yet to prove he can coach at this level, so there is no way Davis took his input. This madness is coming from Psycho-Speed, aka: Al Davis.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:26 am
nO PRIMA-DONAS JUST PLAYAS
April 26th, 2009 at 11:27 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:23 am
N orris had 19 sacks in 2 years in the PAC-10 WOW.Cable IS getting players who are HUNGRY
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You mean al davis is getting player who are HUNGRY
April 26th, 2009 at 11:27 am
this is what everybody wanted;no more track stars just players.Now lets turn em loose
April 26th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Well, I’m gonna throw on my “The Broncos had a worst draft than us” blanket and go back to bed!!
I wonder what Jamarcus is thinking about all of this..
I still think we’ve had a good offseason.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:28 am
SNB,
I did not think the defense was going to be that high of a priority. I thought that the raiders had to upgrade the WR position and the offensive line position first. I put the premium on the O line, but I do remember that Pears, Barnes, Johnson, Satele were all brought in FA. That flurry of activity in FA must have made them comfertable enough to focus their attention to other needs.
DE’s are like OT’s. They are premium position. The raiders just grabbed two that they liked. We will have to wait and see.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:28 am
who-ever
April 26th, 2009 at 11:28 am
I am actually fine with the offense. Like I said, I was ready to roll with JLH and Schilens. So adding Heyward-Bey and Murphy is fine with me.
Its the g-d defensive line:
LDE(run stopping DE) = Burgess / Richardson ????
UT = Kelly / Joseph
NT = Warren / Sands / Boschetti ??????
RDE (pass rusher) = Scott / Gunheim
WLB = Howard / Alston
MLB = Morrison / No backup
SLB = Brown / Norris
CB = Asomugha / Routt
NB = Routt / Brown
FS = Mitchell / Eugene
SS = Branch / Huff
CB = Johnson / Bowie
April 26th, 2009 at 11:28 am
this has become a joke
April 26th, 2009 at 11:28 am
The draft isn’t so bad! But I must admit the only fun I am having now is watching the guy drop so I can keep seeing his cute girlfriend! LOL Thats sad!
April 26th, 2009 at 11:29 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:27 am
this is what everybody wanted;no more track stars just players.Now lets turn em loose
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We’ve drafted almost nothing but track guys. WTF are you talking about?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Oh well we got Chaz in 7rd last yr so lets see what is left still good football player left.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:30 am
believe in michael mitchell! this kid is a freakin beast!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0e4yTwmHyc
April 26th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Dharris, good article man. Another strong character guy.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:32 am
can i say this we are going to suck as a team . i know Al isnt picking these guys
April 26th, 2009 at 11:32 am
dallasraiderfan,
i more try to look at this along with everything else from as many perspectives as possible. Taking a step back we will see that this draft did bear some fruit. It may have not been who we wanted but we have to see how these guys play.
I remember last year when we drafted Branch I was pissed. I heard many opinions saying Scott would not even make the 53 man roster. Jerry said he was smaller than Gibril Wilson.
He got 5 sacks last season as a rookie which is impressive by anybody’s standards. rob Ryan and Millard are gone but the player personnel dept is still in tact.
gives these guys a chance.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:33 am
# hamburger Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:32 am
can i say this we are going to suck as a team . i know Al isnt picking these guys
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???
Who else would it be?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:33 am
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
People, people — it’s the draft. That’s all it is, the draft.
THERE IS NO GUARANTEED SUCCESS COMING OUT OF THE DRAFT.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:33 am
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
People, people — it’s the draft. That’s all it is, the draft.
THERE IS NO GUARANTEED SUCCESS COMING OUT OF THE DRAFT.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:33 am
these players suited up and played collage football but they have track speed try 2 keep up
April 26th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Will everyone be singing the praises of dhb character if he holds out for more dough?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Any chance we get in on the 5 round via a trade?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:38 am
everyone needs to stop freaking out so much. DHB is a good wide reciever. i wanted crabtree just like the majority here did, fact is, we didnt draft him. we drafted DHB, so lets get over it and support the damn kid! for all we know, he could end up having a better career than crabtree. wierder things have happened! if anything when my niner friends are calling me laughing, im laughing right back at them saying congrats on ur big time reciever, let me know when u have a QB and O line to get him the ball.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Darth, can we get a 5th for Turd?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:39 am
NMF
hell no
April 26th, 2009 at 11:39 am
# HayesDaze37 Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:33 am
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
People, people — it’s the draft. That’s all it is, the draft.
THERE IS NO GUARANTEED SUCCESS COMING OUT OF THE DRAFT.
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But, when you’re the Raiders, there is guaranteed failure.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:39 am
SNB,
The dline is not a good one, but I think they are better than we realize. The offense has scared nobody since 2005.
Cable has been piecing this line together for a few years now and they have gotten better: slowly but we see improvement.
RB’s are loaded and we will run the ball a lot this year.
The WR core is upgraded and the Raiders have plenty of talent.
People are nit picking Murphy and DHB saying this and that, but they were brought in to compete with JLH, Shields, and schillens. All of these men run 4.3 to low 4.4. They have two starters in this group. murphy may be the next francis but they are not asking him to start they are asking him to compete.
JLH, Javon and Schillens are the starters right now most likely. Shields, DHB, Murphy, Watkins, and holland will be coming hard if they want to get some playing time and make the team for the latter two.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:40 am
NoMoreFargas Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Will everyone be singing the praises of dhb character if he holds out for more dough?
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Why are ya lookin’ for something negative? Will you buy his jersey if he has a very good rookie season – probably. Then in a couple of years if / when he makes the Pro-Bowl you, as well as many others, will be saying some BS like I always liked that guy!
April 26th, 2009 at 11:40 am
IS THERE A CHANCE THAT WE COULD DRAFT jASPER
April 26th, 2009 at 11:41 am
# South FLA Raider Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Darth, can we get a 5th for Turd?
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They’d have to give a 5th round pick to a team just to take Terd off their roster. Dude has zero value.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:42 am
I know 4eva im just a little po you get a j-russ and give him fat dough well give him a o-line first he’ll make avg wr good and good wr great but he needs time to throw
April 26th, 2009 at 11:42 am
PFT:
Raiders Didn’t Reach For Mitchell?
Posted by Mike Florio on April 26, 2009, 10:45 a.m.
The biggest shock of the first day of the draft, according to the folks who supposedly know the draft inside and out, is that the Raiders selected Ohio University safety Mike Mitchell with the 47th overall pick.
But, as it turns out, Mitchell wouldn’t have otherwise plunged to round seven.
According to the Chicago Tribune, the Bears had planned to take Mitchell two picks later.
Mitchell said Saturday that, at the start of round two, the Bears claimed they’d be drafting him at No. 49.
“When [the Bears] did that, I was like, ‘I’m going to be a Chicago Bear,’ ” Mitchell said. “That’s what I was thinking.”
And so, with Mitchell gone, the Bears traded out of the spot.
“Unfortunately the players we targeted at 49 did not fall to us and we weren’t in a position that we were able to move up,” G.M. Jerry Angelo said.
So take heart, Raiders fans. Your front office doesn’t consist of idiots.
Unless Angelo is an idiot, too.
More On Michael Mitchell
Posted by Mike Florio on April 26, 2009, 12:13 p.m.
Frankly, the various items we posted in the weeks before the draft regarding the guys who were drawing interest kind of blurred together on us, and we (I) can’t remember without checking the search box the specific guys who were mentioned.
As it turns out, we had a blurb on April 14 regarding Ohio safety Michael Mitchell, whose selection in round two prompted grunts, harumphs, and audible flatus from the so-called experts.
Mitchell was on that day visiting the Browns and the Bengals, and the next day the Raiders were bringing him to town.
He visited four other teams; as mentioned earlier today, the Bears had told Mitchell at the outset of round two that they’d take him with the 49th overall selection. The Raiders blocked that by picking Mitchell at No. 47.
So, in hindsight, it really shouldn’t have been a shock.
And we only wish we’d remembered to search the guy’s name at our own site on Saturday, when the grunting, harumphing, and flatusing were occuring.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Follett is still on the board as well.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:44 am
dont the raiders have another 6th round pick
April 26th, 2009 at 11:45 am
“So take heart, Raiders fans. Your front office doesn’t consist of idiots.
Unless Angelo is an idiot, too.”
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The front office consists of idiot. Singular.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:45 am
BRINKLEY…..NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 11:45 am
# DHarris Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:40 am
NoMoreFargas Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Will everyone be singing the praises of dhb character if he holds out for more dough?
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Why are ya lookin’ for something negative? Will you buy his jersey if he has a very good rookie season – probably. Then in a couple of years if / when he makes the Pro-Bowl you, as well as many others, will be saying some BS like I always liked that guy!
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dharris you will never find a Raider fan or sports fan more honest about anyone I bash if he is great i will always admit I dissed him,J-russ put me in my place last year still waiting for fargas to do it , so I hope bey is great and sticks in my face.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:45 am
that damn Arco pop-up is driving me nuts!
April 26th, 2009 at 11:45 am
“And we only wish we’d remembered to search the guy’s name at our own site on Saturday, when the grunting, harumphing, and flatusing were occuring.”
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WTF is a flatusing?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:46 am
it would be nice to get follet. Another pure football player.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:46 am
kiper is a dumas
April 26th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Viking just took brinkley
April 26th, 2009 at 11:47 am
did anyone hear herm edwards???
April 26th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Damn, there goes Brinkley
April 26th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Cool-cool NoMoreFargas.. I hear ya
April 26th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Somebody should copy and save all these comments — especially all the instant (and definite) declarations of failure.
Fact is — most people in here haven’t heard of most of the people being drafted, and you’ve never seen them play. How many of you people are carping on picks you’ve never seen or heard of, based on what the “experts” are saying — and you ridicule those same experts all the time? Not everybody…but there are an awful lot of hypocrites in here.
IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT ROUND WE TAKE A GUY IN — IF HE’S GOING TO MAKE IT, HE’S GOING TO MAKE IT.
I don’t necessarily agree with where/how our picks have been taken…but, I also realize that once Sanchez was off the board in the 1st-round, most trade-down leverage went with him. After that, I can’t fault the team for snatching-up exactly who they wanted when they could.
Wait til you see how well these kids work — some of them will blow your mind as they come into their own.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Crow Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:45 am
“And we only wish we’d remembered to search the guy’s name at our own site on Saturday, when the grunting, harumphing, and flatusing were occuring.”
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WTF is a flatusing?
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Farting.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Ok, so we reached on a couple of picks but if we have 2 starters and 2 decent back ups in 2 years I’ll be OK with it. We’re filling most of our needs with guys who are described as “hard working” and “leaders”, not divas. We got a couple more spots to fill on the lines and I’ll give the draft a C, but maybe my expectations were lower than most.
I know I’ve seen us have much worse offseasons overall. Imagine these picks AND 3 or 4 new vets at the end of their careers for $240 million more in payroll.
As for the WRs, AD figured one thing out many years ago- You can teach the fundamentals, you can teach concentration, you can teach timing. You can’t teach speed. 2 starters/2 back ups in 2 years.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:48 am
they made some decent points on BSPN
April 26th, 2009 at 11:48 am
YEA JASPER IS GONE WHAT SAD DAY IN RAIDER LAND
April 26th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Man I see alot of progress,especially at Safety.
Branch and Mitchell yeah baby
April 26th, 2009 at 11:48 am
The linemen are still there with 48 picks to go!
April 26th, 2009 at 11:50 am
What?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:50 am
raiderrej Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:48 am
they made some decent points on BSPN
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What did they say?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:50 am
There is a pretty good run-stuffing DT still out there >Ra’shon Harris from Oregon
April 26th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Florida Pete…are you o.k.???? Talk to us……..Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeete?!!!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 11:51 am
They have my Slade Norris post blocked…
April 26th, 2009 at 11:52 am
I believe there was a male porn star name Slade Norris
April 26th, 2009 at 11:52 am
why did they block it?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:54 am
family hour =)
April 26th, 2009 at 11:54 am
its awaiting moderation, maybe because I dropped and F-bomb earlier
April 26th, 2009 at 11:54 am
cornelius ingram is off the board.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:54 am
herm edwards gets kudos from me on that segment.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:54 am
What kills me is the Raiders always act as if they are smarter than everyone else in the world. Hello, evaluating talent has been a disaster the last 20 years…remember all of those wasted Jon Gruden picks. I used to like Tom Cable, but after his interview he can go to hell too…myopic ass kissing worthless ass puppet.
Do these fools have any understanding of marketing? If Crabtree blows up in S.F. then Al gets what he deserves. Someone put that old man out of his misery…he can’t stay out of his own way. Here is to another 4-12 season..Yipppeee
April 26th, 2009 at 11:55 am
I missed it, what did Herm say?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:56 am
I didn’t have much on Norris anyway
April 26th, 2009 at 11:56 am
I will admit im psyched about the chance of branch/mitchell both headhunters !!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 11:56 am
on this Norris kid…Maybe just like that LB we drafted out of Bowling Green.Thats right
Phil Villapiano
April 26th, 2009 at 11:56 am
what did espn say?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:57 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:56 am
on this Norris kid…Maybe just like that LB we drafted out of Bowling Green.Thats right
Phil Villapiano
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Or Shurron Pierson.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:57 am
199 & 216 is all we got left. Let’s make some trades.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:58 am
SnB well brother i guess the whloe problem with the defence was RR
April 26th, 2009 at 11:58 am
no sh!t NMF if these guys make the oppising QB hold the ball just that much longer…And a PAINFULL reminder of why you shouldnt challange our safetys =)
April 26th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Meredith Gronkowski and Baker would be good pickups if we can get one of them
April 26th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
GO RAIDERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
April 26th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
you guys are just pissed because we don’t draft big names or players YOU wanted.we have drafted for need and it looks like we’ve filled holes with good prospects.that is all the draft is-prospects.quit your whining-you sound like a bunch of little kids in the grocery store who is crying because they can’t have a candy bar.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Would love for Mitchell / Branch to becomes this era’s Tatum / Atkinson!
April 26th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Where are all the Arman Shields/Chaz Schilens guys at??
” Raiders wont draft a WR cause we got Chaz and Arman man”. LOL!!
Been trying to find it, but was Mitchell even all league at Ohio U?
April 26th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Lefty,
What holes were filled with “good prospects” ?
April 26th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
What do u guys think about Leroy Hill, LB from seattle. They just lifted the franchise tag from him after drafting curry.. He is now a free agent. Maybe a possibility there to get a starting LB and develop Chuck.. I mean Slade Norris.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
espn has a segment on the raiders picks and edwards was kinda defending the raiders. he said they picked who they picked because its what they feel is best. kiper also said he was told by a team that wanted to draft mitchell in round 3 that they think he is a future pro bowler
April 26th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
If we trade Burgess now and draft Duke Robinson or Jamon Meredith in the 5th, it wouldn’t be much different than trading him for a 2nd, because that’d be the value of player we’d be getting. Of course, ESPN has both of them as the top two players available, meaning there’s no way we’ll take them….
April 26th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Except for not yet finding a ILB or two to satisfy my lust for a real hitter in the middle, the team’s addressed every “need” they needed to this weekend — albeit not enough, and not to everybody’s satisfaction. (Giving Cable big benefit of doubt w/ his O-line, of course.)
I like a number of the picks — and I will not compare them to who else we could’ve had, until ALL of those players do something in the NFL to compare to each other.
No more whining — there’s no crying in football!
April 26th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
you guys are just pissed because we don’t draft big names or players YOU wanted.we have drafted for need and it looks like we’ve filled holes with good prospects.that is all the draft is-prospects.quit your whining-you sound like a bunch of little kids in the grocery store who is crying because they can’t have a candy bar.
======================================================= Sounds like alot of these guys are Jay Cutlers family members
April 26th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Snake, Even though I would love Hill, we cant afford him we are almost capped out.. we would owe Javon almost 14 mil if we cut him so that part of the problem with this.. Al made a mistake signing him in the first place
April 26th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
When will Kiper come out and tell us that he was wrong when he blast The Raiders (Al Davis) saying that Mitchell would have been around to draft in later rounds?
April 26th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
r8rpaver Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:58 am
SnB well brother i guess the whloe problem with the defence was RR
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I guess so. Look, this season is about offensive production. The strategy is to basically win shootouts. That’s fine. Russell is a 1st round draft pick and he needs to succeed.
As long as Davis sticks to his promise to be patient. Because with this defense, the Raiders will have to have a lot of patience stored up.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
“Except for not yet finding a ILB or two to satisfy my lust for a real hitter in the middle, the team’s addressed every “need” they needed to this weekend”
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Defensive tackle?
April 26th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Dude ,
don`t care if mitchell was all conferance he had 5 forced fumbles that`s two more than chung,5 more than hamlin,2 more than delmas,and 3 more than vaughn.7 int`s is less than those guys but he will help the run defense.just get some dt`s.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
No offense but the Crabtree stuff needs to stop. I wanted him before the season was done but how he acted right before the draft and his facial expressions and the no comment add up to he didn’t want to be here! PERIOD. I could care less what he does. That actually made me feel better that AL went with DHB instead. If you are smart you go to whoever takes you work hard and don’t say stuff like he did. Lets let that go already!
April 26th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
# prideandpoise Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Snake, Even though I would love Hill, we cant afford him we are almost capped out.. we would owe Javon almost 14 mil if we cut him so that part of the problem with this.. Al made a mistake signing him in the first place
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We’re $9.33 mill under the cap.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
OK Norris is a pick I know pretty well. I watched him from the 50 yard line and the last couple of home games he was dominant. He was also dominant in the Sun bowl. Once again everyone has their lists…. If you project on a full year or 2 year record the guy is a FA but on the last few games he was extremely dominant against very good competition (except the Ducks blew up the defense in the Civil war)
April 26th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Macho Harris to the Iggles. Nice one.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Herm & Jaws basically told kiper and the “pro liar”, that regardless of where the “experts” had Bey and Mitchell slotted. The Raiders (see: Davis, Al.) picked the players who best “fit” their system.
In other words, told them to STFU!!
April 26th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
So why did this Mike Mitchell stay under the radar so long.
We are talking about a scouting system, whether professionals or t.v pundits like Kiper and Mayock that unearth players from Stillman College and Abilene Christian.
Ohio is in a mid-major D-1 conference. How, and more importantly, why was this guy only discovered about a month ago.
to go from free agent to 2nd round? I am not dissing the pick by the way. Love the guys attitude and the Bears and Boys were apparently angling for him.
But why is he a virtual unknown for so long after the football season ended
April 26th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
I love these two comments. I too want to give these players a shot and see what they got…
(208) HayesDaze37 Says:I like a number of the picks — and I will not compare them to who else we could’ve had, until ALL of those players do something in the NFL to compare to each other.
(201) lefty12 Says:you guys are just pissed because we don’t draft big names or players YOU wanted.we have drafted for need and it looks like we’ve filled holes with good prospects.that is all the draft is-prospects.quit your whining-you sound like a bunch of little kids in the grocery store who is crying because they can’t have a candy bar.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
dude-did you have a clue as to who T. Scott was before we drafted him?i’d venture to say hell no.good prospects-Bey,Mitchell,Murphy,Shannessy(or however you spell his name),and norris.just because the experts like you and the morons on TV(who people on here hate on every day-except draft day)don’t like or know them doesn’t mean they aren’t good prospects.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
SnB Defense ,
don`t worry the raiders will address run defense next year with a big dt.d-line is the only real need at this point
April 26th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
# raiderdre Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
No offense but the Crabtree stuff needs to stop. I wanted him before the season was done but how he acted right before the draft and his facial expressions and the no comment add up to he didn’t want to be here! PERIOD. I could care less what he does. That actually made me feel better that AL went with DHB instead. If you are smart you go to whoever takes you work hard and don’t say stuff like he did. Lets let that go already!
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i feel the same way. im glad im not the only one thinking it.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
I hear-ya Lefty12,didnt get none of “my” picks but I believe this has been a good 2 very good draft,imo
April 26th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
S&B-it happens.good players slip under the radar all the time.if he would have been invited to the combine everyone would have probably known him.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
DHarris Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
I love these two comments. I too want to give these players a shot and see what they got…
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well.. we really dont have a choice do we?
April 26th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Interesting to watch John Gruden do his anaylsis on DHB and use the word WE in talking about the Raiders.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
I have to say as optimistic as I usually am about the upcoming Raider season.. Is anyone else worried about facing the NFC east, especially philly and NY? They are just getting loaded.
Back to the Leroy Hill thing…crow if u are right and we are almost $10 mil under the cap I see that as a real possibility. What do u guys think?
April 26th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Guess there isn’t any 5th round offers for Walter, Burgess, Huff, or anyone else.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Yep Mike Mitchell is one hell of a prospect! He is SOOO good that he couldnt even get 3rd team ALL MAC conference. He must of been a BEAST!!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Just like Chuck D once said, “Don’t believe the hype!”
April 26th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
not if we cut Walker we wouldnt be we would be over the cap. hes owed a 14 mil buyout and you cant sniff Hill’s Jock for 9.33 Mil
April 26th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Dude Says:
Where are all the Arman Shields/Chaz Schilens guys at??
” Raiders wont draft a WR cause we got Chaz and Arman man”. LOL!!
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Even with Tim Brown, Cliff Branch, and Freddie B. in their prime, we would draft WR’s — never too many wheels who can catch on a team. Never know if they can do it at this level until they get here — no matter whose crystal ball you look through.
And, Chaz Schilens has already shown he’s got the goods when he’s thrown to. The guy’s got talent and heart, and a knack for the ball the reminds one of TJ Hoosyermama — and TJ can really play.
If (a big IF, admittedly) Chaz and JLH start this year the way they came on at the end of last year, they will have officially arrived. it’s not that far out of the realm of possibility that that has occurred.
If Javon can do anything at all to help prepare DHB as a pro, the Raiders first two picks this year could be brilliant.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
4 eva,
Explain why this is a “good to very good draft”?
April 26th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
I heard Mitchell on fox sports earlier today. I also saw an article from the local Chi. paper saying the bears were going to take him at 49. Mitchell said he had really good interaction with the Raiders, Bears and Browns talked with over 10 teams in a two to three week period – and our big three experts who righteously grade the draft – did not even know he exists kind of tells you something doesn’t it?
April 26th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
# Dude Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Yep Mike Mitchell is one hell of a prospect! He is SOOO good that he couldnt even get 3rd team ALL MAC conference. He must of been a BEAST!!!!
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guess we will find out how good he is later this year. i for one, think the kid is gonna be legit.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
No one had a good or bad draft , at least till the season starts everyone is undefeated right now .
GO RAIDERS!!!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
raiderrej Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
DHarris Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
I love these two comments. I too want to give these players a shot and see what they got…
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well.. we really dont have a choice do we?
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What I was saying was instead of bashing them, non-stop, how about supporting them and welcome them aboard!
April 26th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Dude Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Where are all the Arman Shields/Chaz Schilens guys at??
” Raiders wont draft a WR cause we got Chaz and Arman man”. LOL!!
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I don’t think this draft affects Schilens at all. He’s a Cable guy all the way. He blocks well on the outside, he’s physical, and he’s got Davis speed. Schilens will be the number 2 receiver out of the gate.
Shields is definitely done. Shields WAS A TOTAL WASTE OF A PICK. FELT THAT WAY WHEN THEY DRAFTED HIM with a bum knee!
April 26th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
What number wil DHB end up with? I think that will be my next jersey.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
# IndianaRaider Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Guess there isn’t any 5th round offers for Walter, Burgess, Huff, or anyone else.
LMAO. That comment made my day! I fell the same way. Still laughing at that one!
April 26th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Hayes,
DHB is starting. Period. If Walker is healthy he is starting. If Chaz was so good, they would NOT,NOT,NOT have drafted a WR at 7 overall and they sure as hell wouldnt have taken 2 WRs in the first 4 picks.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
I wouldn’t want dhb any where near walker what is he gonna teach him , the sooner we get rid of walker the better.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
DHarris,
Should we throw them a party complete with cake and ice cream?? Then pop the champagne and toast Al Davis for another great draft?
April 26th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
its my opinion and I dont wanna.If you cant see it TOO BAD
April 26th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
What did Chucky have to say??
Sadly my effed up cable doesn’t have NFLN.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Walker as a mentor?? Are you freakn serious?? WOW!!
April 26th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
I want to see just how hard mitchell can hit Crabtree in the pre season! Come on Mitchell, break his Raider hate’n azz in two!
That being said, WTF are the Raiders doing in this draft? They picked up a LB from OSU and left Nick Folliet on the board???? I’ll continue to scratch my head until these guys show us what they can do on the field in the NFL.
I was FURIOUS after the draft yesterday, but its Sunday and time to just say F it. What is the worst that can happen? The Raiders go 2-14, fire their HC and start over by drafting a QB 1st overall in 2010? Why does that sound familiar?
April 26th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
2WRs, 1 SS, 1LB, and 1DE.
I don’t like the Norris pick or Shaunessy!!
April 26th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
There go our linemen.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
blackdeath29 Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
SnB Defense ,
don`t worry the raiders will address run defense next year with a big dt.d-line is the only real need at this point
======================================================= I agree give Marshal a year to see what he can do,then next year will be all defense.. the way i see it is we had to finish getting J-Russ the tools to flourish in the nfl,did we do that this weekend? i dont know, but we did improve over last year in the WR department IMO.Let these guys have sometime togeather and see what we have…Like i said before the talking heads on tv dont work in the nfl for a reason.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Raider Nation 951 Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
I want to see just how hard mitchell can hit Crabtree in the pre season! Come on Mitchell, break his Raider hate’n azz in two
RIGHT-ON 951 RIGHT-ON!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
“dude” WTF?! why don’t you take your negative azz to another team if you don’t like what this one is doing!
April 26th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
prideandpoise Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
not if we cut Walker we wouldnt be we would be over the cap. hes owed a 14 mil buyout and you cant sniff Hill’s Jock for 9.33 Mil
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Walker restructured his contract. He is due $2M this year and next year, both are guaranteed. If Walker were to get cut, he would get $4M over 2 years not $14M.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Dude — DHB wasn’t drafted to replace either Schilens or JLH. When Al speaks, you need to listen closely. Schilens and JLH are both Raiders starters.
BHB will start, as long as he can run farther than Javon without falling down. But, it’s a closed mind who thinks Javon Walker’s Pro Bowl ability was a fluke. His lucrative career’s been a train wreck, but the guy knows how to play, when he can walk straight.
I was merely suggesting that DHB will more “easily” assume the #1 role with the veteran’s help — and you can bet Al’s mentioned the same thing.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
I will be shocked if Al does not draft a CB just for sh!ts and giggles.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
What are the chances Meredith and Robinson go back-to-back exactly one round before our next pick?
April 26th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Meredith is off the Board, but J Williams, Z Follett, Chris Baker, Magee, Khalif Mitchell, and T Taylor are still available!!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
F the draft. Anybody watching this bulls/celtics game?!
Gotta love playoff basketball… More importantly anytime a Boston team is about to lose.. GO Chi-town!
April 26th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
6th Round-Ricky Jean-Francois DT LSU
7th Round-Jason Watkins OT Florida
April 26th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
blackdeath29 Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
SnB Defense ,
don`t worry the raiders will address run defense next year with a big dt.d-line is the only real need at this point
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I hope not. I hope that Terdell Sands lives up to his g-d expectations of his contract. I hope the Raiders are drafting in the 20’s next year. I don’t want to address d-line next year. I want to win right now.
We are going to find out all about the D-Line this year. Especially at LDE and NT. Kelly should be healthy right? New coaches. I do like Trevor Scott though.
Jacobs, Portis, Moreno (2), LT/Sproles (2), Barber/Jones, Westbrook/McCoy, LJ(2), McGahee,Rice and hat FB, Green/Mendenhall, Jones/Washington, Slaton and don’t forget that Cleveland has Alex Mack and Joe Thomas on their O-Lines…….
Yeah, we are gonna find out what this D-Line is all about this year
April 26th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Another opinion on the draft:
1. DHB was a reach (about 10 slots) however the Raiders were faced with this prospect take one of two spread option receivers, take a OT that does not fit your scheme, or take a DT that is a lot like one you already have. It appears they did not have any chance to trade down. You have to have a partner to trade down. Most teams did not want to trade up because this draft did not have elite talent with the exception of a Wake Forest LB.
2. Mitchell was not a reach. In fact the Raiders thought they might lose him for dropping back 7 slots and it is apparent at least one team was going to take him 2 picks later and several more were interested. I think he is a sleeper and a find.
3. The DE from Wisconsin was a reach if you think his injuries are indicative of him being injury prone going foward. If not he is a value because without that injury he is a first round pick. I think he is probably an injury risk but I do not have all the data the Raider scouts have….
4. Murphy – I do not know anything about him but he was picked near where projected by many….
5. Norris – I have seen this guy play in person over the last few years. I live in Corvallis area and a relative has season tickets he gives me…. He was a dominant player the last few games of the season. I mean dominant like the USC guys are because I have seen them as well. If you project over a long carreer then FA but if you were paying attention to how he improved the Raiders may have another sleeper here. He is really good against the run by the way….
From this analysis I don’t get how the Raiders had the worst draft in 40 years??? The one in which they took Seabass and Gibson was much worse. There were many others as well that I try to forget.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
I heard Artie G on Raiders report just a week ago say 14 mil if he was cut and why they could go after free agents because the cap was pretty much tapped out. just going by that
April 26th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Raider O,
Magee(Chiefs) and Taylor(Colts) are gone
April 26th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
DHB will start. Period.
D Harris,
To be a fan you dont have to blindly follow and bow down to every move a team makes. This franchise is in dissaray and this draft only makes it worse.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
i dont either Raider O
April 26th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Tommy Trojan, like those 2 picks or how about this one:
DT Jean Francois and ILB Ellerbe?
April 26th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
South FLA Raider Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
I will be shocked if Al does not draft a CB just for sh!ts and giggles.
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If anything, I’m surprised they haven’t yet. Depth on the corners could help. If anything, we don’t know how Bowie will play out and Justin Miller played pretty good against TB, depth couldn’t hurt to go alone with Asomugha, Johnson, and Routt
April 26th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
# SnB Defense Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
So why did this Mike Mitchell stay under the radar so long.
We are talking about a scouting system, whether professionals or t.v pundits like Kiper and Mayock that unearth players from Stillman College and Abilene Christian.
Ohio is in a mid-major D-1 conference. How, and more importantly, why was this guy only discovered about a month ago.
to go from free agent to 2nd round? I am not dissing the pick by the way. Love the guys attitude and the Bears and Boys were apparently angling for him.
But why is he a virtual unknown for so long after the football season ended
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There was a scouting report on him that said that he ran a 4.6 forty. Speed may not be everything, but it is something and you couldn’t play in the NFL if that were true. It also said that he had to play close to the line of scrimage to be effective. I saw in his You tube video that he played deep and came up and made solid tackles on several of those plays. I think that when he ran so fast at his pro day it caused a lot of the scouts to take a second look for themselves and they found out that the scouting report they had on him was totally wrong.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
31 picks
and another 17 after that
then the draft is over
April 26th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
And Clinton McD, I’m not going to give up on this draft.
We drafted 2 top 10 talent WRs.
We drafted the best SS in this draft.
Added a DE with potential.
I don’t like the LB pick.
So far this draft is descent, but not great.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
268, I could live with that but I want at least 1 offensive lineman in this class
April 26th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
This was a DRAFT THAT CANNOT BE MEASURED UNTIL PLAYERS START TO PLAY.
Of all the first-round picks — history shows that the entire draft is nothing more than a coin-flip. The entire draft.
Ask Tom Brady and Joe Montana what being drafted in later rounds did to their careers. What about all the GM’s who passed on those guys, and thousands of others, who panned-out elsewhere.
The draft is a fun-to-watch, expensive coin flip. That’s all. Lighten up a little.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Rather humorous watching some of your reactions.
Yes, Crabtree did emit a audible “whew” as in “dodged a bullet there” when the Raiders past on him…kind of opposite of Bey’s “OMG..tell me they didn’t take me? the Raiders? When careers go to fester and die?? Mom? Say it ain’t so Mom, said it ain’t so?”
I mean, why worry?
Receptions in two years.
Bey 92 Crabtree 231
Td’s?
Bey 8 Crabtree 41
Yards?
Bey 1390 Crabtree 3127
Yeah…good job Al. You did good *thumbsup*
Mitchell?
Hey??? So what if no one even listed him as a prospect?
So what if Ohio didn’t even bother giving out info on the guy? So what if he wasn’t even invited to the combine?
You found the diamond in the rough..yeah..that’s it, Al. You’re going to show everyone you haven’t lost it.
Good job, Buddy. *thumbsup*
The other picks?
I’m not sure Al is aware of this..but..it’s just quite possible that had he forfeited the above picks? The team would be better off.
I mean, think about it.
Al is going to give a “project” WR, #7 money. He WILL get somewhere inbetween #6 and #8. He should be getting #25 money, but he won’t.
You have a second rounder who was slated to not even make the NFL, who’s agent is ordering his new boat as we speak, who, prior to yesterday, had his Volkswagon on the market.
Does any of this make sense to anyone?
Anyone?
The Niners are laughing at the Raiders, and likely will be..for some time to come.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
I don’t understand how Murphy fits anything but a return guy. Florida isn’t known for producing NFL WR’s. He’s a spread offense guy, that is fast.
The pick today that gets me the most is how can they draft Slade Norris, when Zach Follet is still available? I can’t think of a single play tht Norris jumped out at me, but I can think of several games where Follet was a stud. I wonder if he has some sort of “off field” problem that we don’t know about? Is he a pissy little beiotch like Crabtree? Can’t wrap my head around this pick yet.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Not a bad move trading out of the 2nd round spot and picking up a 4th and a 6th.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Oh — And the DT position? There are a few bigger, slower man-mountain types still out there, and a few might show up as free agents. The Raiders aren’t the only ones saving their picks for other positions (and players they know other teams covet).
April 26th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
ray allen is a clutch!!
April 26th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
I like Clinton McD in the 6th.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
3-4
April 26th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
# HayesDaze37 Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
This was a DRAFT THAT CANNOT BE MEASURED UNTIL PLAYERS START TO PLAY.
Of all the first-round picks — history shows that the entire draft is nothing more than a coin-flip. The entire draft.
Ask Tom Brady and Joe Montana what being drafted in later rounds did to their careers. What about all the GM’s who passed on those guys, and thousands of others, who panned-out elsewhere.
The draft is a fun-to-watch, expensive coin flip. That’s all. Lighten up a little.
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Words that are ONLY spoken by a fan of a team who just made some of the dumbest choices, EVER, in a draft.
I mean, to winners ever say ‘Winning isn’t everything”?
Hell no. The losers say that.
Does any fan who’s happy with their picks EVER say “Well, I’m not going to start throwing stones until I see them play”?
Hell no.
Only those who mutter “OMG..I CAN’T believe we just signed that guy…*sigh*…time to make excuses.”
Carry on.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Clinton would be great
April 26th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
We heard it last year and we heard it again this year, that we would try to trade some players for some later picks. We hear it again yesterday. But, nothing. I guess no one wants Walter or Huff, especially if we can’t even get a six-round pick???
Nice going Al, you picked both of them and now you can’t unload them…too anyone…for anything. Al, maybe you should just given them both away for free as that might turn your Karma around toward good!
April 26th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
F ray allen and the whole G.D. Boston organization that includes the patsies.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Dude Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Hayes,
DHB is starting. Period. If Walker is healthy he is starting. If Chaz was so good, they would NOT,NOT,NOT have drafted a WR at 7 overall and they sure as hell wouldnt have taken 2 WRs in the first 4 picks.
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Walker ain’t starting. He’ll come off the bench depending on down and distance. But the vision is Heyward-Bey and Schilens….
why did Davis pick DHB? For the same reason he picked McFadden last year. Davis is going to grab an elite athlete that has a good overall grade. DMAC was a 1st round talent and DHB, while not a top 10 grade, was still a 1st round talent too. If DHB wasn’t there, I don’t think they would have gone after Maclin or Crabtree. When a superior athlete is available that can run…Davis is going to take him.
Hell, if Reggie Bush was in the draft this year…Davis would have taken him. He collects athletes.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
We can still make this work, we have 3 more picks.
I’ve said that a lot today and yesterday, buy we really can.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Cable talking on Espn
April 26th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
What Chucky had to say.
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f887f8
April 26th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Honestly guys, As a Raider fan I have convinced myself in the last 24 hours to hate and hate MS. Crabtree. All I want for the preseason is for Mr. Mitchell to say hello to Ms. Crabtree as she tries to do her one hippaty hop across the middle. KTFO as they say in MMA. Name me any Raider that has knocked out 1 person cold…Mitchell got 3 in his college career.
Then all you doubters will be cheering on what a great pick Mitchell was.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Pretty sad if Mike Mitchell ends up being the best player drafted. A ton of wasted opportunity. I’m not going to be too tough on Cable for spewing the company line, he’s just happy to have the job. No, this one is all Al. And it stinks worse than his diapers.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Funny, The Raiders may have reached about ten spots for there first round pick, the chiefs may have reached thirty spots or more, and Kiper gives the chiefs a C and The Raiders a F. Kiper is a hater.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
So, Ricochet — Even though I’m already on record as saying I didn’t personally agree with how the draft and picks were taken, that doesn’t count as not agreeing?
Are we supposed to stand up and thump our chests when we pick who the “expert” pundits say, and then slink away when we try somebody the experts (or you) don’t like? That’s gutless, and certainly not old-school Raiders-like.
Guess the only way to do right nowadays is to draft only the guys that are guaranteed to be Pro Bowlers.
THE ONLY GUARANTEE (besides a lot of money)…NOBODY DRAFTED IS A GUARANTEED SUCCESS at the NFL level.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
ESPN is having a lot of fun ragging on the Raiders and especially our #7 pick, Darrius Heywood-Bey, saying he only go honorable mention and we’ll be paying him monies between the #6 and #8 pick. It was point out that there were games where Darrius didn’t even catch a pass?
April 26th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Mycable went out, what did cable say???
April 26th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Damn you Cox Cable, damn you.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
well , well , well , im right again, next year u morons will be postin yur stupid mock drafts and sayin who al should draft again. guess u idiots will never learn. u cant tell al wut to do
April 26th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Everyone is bashing the Raiders right now!
And I love it!
Any time this many people agree on something, they’re almost certainly wrong. The Raiders are going to tear the NFL apart. Mel Kiper’s picture will decorate our locker room for years, I love it!
April 26th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Is Zack Follett still on the board?
April 26th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
raider0 , SnBdefense , now u will listen 2 me . fukk yur dumb mock drafts . al davis is on another level of thinking. deal wit it .
April 26th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Cable says we are going to run the ball and toss the football over their heads, then the espn crew went on about how no other team uses that system anymore since back when players wore leather helmets.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
RD 1 #7 overall=Honorable Mention All ACC
RD 2= Not even a 3rd team All MAC
So these 2 couldnt get it done in 2 weak ass conferences but they are going to step it up in the NFL? OK.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Cable is back but I missed it.
Damn you Cox Cable
April 26th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Tommy Trojan,
Serious question… Are you being sarcastic?
April 26th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
yep zack follet still available
April 26th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
I like my mocks, and I enjoy doing the research.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
cable and davis are stuck in a time machine but hey, lets roll wit em … raider0 can we see yur mock draft again ???? lol
April 26th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
No
April 26th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Dude,
Serious question, why do you take everything so seriously?
April 26th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Tommy Trojan,
WOW!
April 26th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
I’m more upset that we didn’t pick up Gilbert!!
F*********************************k!
April 26th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
if heyward-bey isnt as talented as moss , well , man , fukk it
April 26th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Dude,
WOW!
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This is just a fun day….
April 26th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
The draft is a gamble so the Raiders picked who they need most during their order. Higher draft order does not guarantee achievements.
Howie Long was drafted low second round from then a no-name school Villanova. I still remember the negative comments (too small, too weak, no powerful step, etc) by some “experts” until Howie started to demolish opponent’s OL.
Cliff Branch was taken in the fourth round.
Willie Brown was 3rd rounder and 6th rounder before the merge.
“Crazy” Lyle was a fourth rounder.
In a way, after years of going big-name and crazy big-bucks, this Raiders draft actually feels good. All these are “blue-collar” type players with something to proof. They are not stars but they seem like good students of the game. Together on a team, with appropriate supporting cast around them, they may yet become something solid.
They remind me of the bunch that used to hang out at you-know-where after a game. Those were to good old days.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Is Al dead yet?
April 26th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
20 picks until Jean-Francois
April 26th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Someone was complaining about our pick of Huff in 06
At the time the only complaint by the “experts” was that we should have not passed on Lienhart. Lienhart under Shell and the Bed and Breakfast man’s “7 second drop offense” would have been a pinyatta… Lienhart turned out to be just as much of a bust for the Cards as Huff has for the Raiders…. The draft is a crapshoot….
April 26th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
TommyTrojan,
Your right, I guess it aint the end of the world. I will take my chill pill now.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Kenny King, the real Kenny King should sue you. Crabtree was a far bigger “need” than Darius Gump.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Dude
Your always asking questions of most on this blog, and your argument before the draft was we need a WR, so we draft Bey and you have laughed at the pick . Let’s hear your choice and I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, so what would you have done in rounds one thru three.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Crow,
Unfortunately no, he isnt.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Kool aid drinker language translator:
“The draft is a crap shoot” = “Al screwed up, again.”
April 26th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Double OT in chi-town. Seriously we all need a break from all this draft talk and watch some playoff basketball that’s exciting and get our minds off any questionable picks we may or may not agree with.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
there’s a new zack miller TE in the nfl
April 26th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
I can’t wait, a lit of the players I want are still available.
Cmon Big Al, you can do it.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
As far as Long and Branch goes, Ron Wolfe found them. We have Heckle & Jeckle running personnel now…
April 26th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Midwest Fan Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
there’s a new zack miller TE in the nfl
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I just seen that too lol, we got the better
of the two though
April 26th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
At least until the Raiders pick again.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Hey Al, do me a favor and draft Zack Follett.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Regarding our stupid pick of Walter:
The “experts” said that he was developmental and probably would have been a first rounder if not for an injury sort of a sleeper pick….
The most critised years past pick since SeaBass (which was deserved) was none other than Namdi Assamoha (bad sp.). It was very similar criticsm as was being said about Mitchell. That is a good sign!
April 26th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
This just in: Raiders war room out of Dasani water. Cable now fetching Al tap water. Developing….
April 26th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Davis is a “go big or go home” guy. That’s obvious now…don’t know why it took this long to realize this.
Tom Cable listen up do not B.s with the starting lineup
DMAC / Bush
Heyward-Bey and Schilens
Mario Henderson
Mike Mitchell
No more of this “do-right” attitude or deference to veterans…that’s b.s..
You reach for these players…put them on the g-d field
April 26th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
I like the 2 WRs and SS, the rest I’m not sold on.
Also I would have liked to trade down and then pick DHB.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
If the Yorks don’t pull an Al Davis on Mike Singletary, the Niners are in the playoffs this year. Crabtree’s going to come up huge for them.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
cant wait for the season!! im jacked !! on madden2010 that is …
April 26th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Anybody have footage of the DE they selected?
April 26th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
LOL… Jags just picked a TE named Zach Miller… arent they two years late? =)
April 26th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
SnB, what is a “go big or go home” guy? Sounds kind of gay.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
In hindsight, here’s my draft:
#7-Eugene Monroe OT Virginia
#40-Everette Brown DE Florida State
#71-Ramses Barden WR Cal Poly
#126-Jasper Brinkley MLB South Carolina
#199-Ricky Jean-Francois DT LSU
#216-Emanuel Cook S South Carolina
That’s no where near the way it ended up, I can live with that.
I like the players we’ve added. I feel our team is much better than it was two days ago.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
hmmm that Zach Miller is listed as a QB other places!?
April 26th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Dude — i don’t know what you’re arguing. That Al didn’t take the guy you wanted?
Are you saying the “4th-best” WR (according to the Kiper/McShay-types) doesn’t have the same potential as the WR they rated #1? Although they’re both incredible athletes, with tremendous upside potential, and neither of their professional abilities have even been tested yet? Oh…and the #1 guy had surgery to repair broken bones in his foot, and still hasn’t recovered from it. I think if you’re ever going to “reach” for a player, that’s exactly the time to do it.
Not only did Al take very little risk by taking DHB instead of Crabtree — he played a great hand, to keep other teams from getting him in the teens.
With his physical gifts and pro-level coaching, it’s very possible for DHB to develop into the best WR in this draft. There’s no tangible reason he can’t be.
If DHB doesn’t achieve great things coming out of the 1st-round…it’ll be unfortunate, but then he’ll be just another one of the 40%-ish who didn’t “make it.”
If I were a betting man, and man I am, I would bet on DHB becoming a great pro — even if I weren’t a Raiders fan, I see what talent evaluators see — great potential, in a great athlete who has all the tools to dominate. I bet he makes a big impact in this league, and I’m glad he’s a Raider.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
the bulls are really hoopin … good game
April 26th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Only pick i like is Louis Murphy. The organization love Shields I know but man sometimes to gotta do what you gotta do. I’m not exciteed about to 09 year though. Those DTs arent enough and the LBs arent enough to win. Fuked up weekend
April 26th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
# JB Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:06 am
This has been a great draft if you are drafting a track team. Unfortunately, at some time in their career, they are going to have to go against “real” football players where they will probably have their a$$es handed to them. At least we can look forward to being the “quickest” off they field.
This year’s draft is the AD Draft. He obviously is going to prove to all the nay-sayers that he knows more than anyone else – after all he IS Al Davis, a football god. What a load and we are having to pay for it in spades – futility and more years in the cellar. He has really lost his mind. Some one needs to put him down. Enough is enough. Based on this year’s choices & decisions, we belong in the Arena League.
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great post…
April 26th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
I guess the pick #’s are little off on that draft I posted, since I wouldn’t have traded down…oh well…it didn’t happen…
April 26th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
excited*
April 26th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
SnB
Not sure if you noticed or not, but Cable never mentioned Fargas when he was talking about the Raiders offensive weapons on BSPN. Bush, DMC, Miller, Russell and DHB. No mention of CTD….Crash Test Dummy a.k.a. Fargas.
Trade anyone?
April 26th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
This just in: Everyone at draft showing symptoms of swine flu, except for Al Davis and the cockroaches. Al’s doing fine. Vows to draft every single lousy football player with a fast 40 time. Developing…
April 26th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
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April 26th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
DHB was not value at 7. Not debateable. He didnt produce in college and he is raw. The Raiders will turn a raw guy into a bust quicker than any team in the NFL. ONLY reason they got him was speed. Plain and simple. Crabtree was there, he is far and away the better player and they passed on him for a raw speed guy. Reason why the Raiders suk so bad.
Mitchell is a reach on so many levels its sick. He didnt domninate the freakn MAC for christ sake. Didnt even get Honorable mention. There were a ton of value guys available at both DL and OL when they reached for this guy.
Shaunnesy?? At least theres film on the guy.
Bottom line:
If they liked DHB and Mitchell take em, fine, but at least take them in value spots. And for Cable to try and say they were worried about teams trading up in front of them to get DHB just shows you how f’d up that draft room really was.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Hayez, as usual, your spin is far fetched and makes little sense.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Chris Baker
Khalif Mitchell
Clinton McD
J Williams
Z Follett
Are all available!!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
# 1960AutumnWind Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
The most critised years past pick since SeaBass (which was deserved) was none other than Namdi Assamoha (bad sp.). It was very similar criticsm as was being said about Mitchell. That is a good sign!
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Now that’s some homerfied bullsh/t right there.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
LOL people got the nerve to defend the first round pick. Shyt is a joke. DHB wont even be the the starter at WR. Cable said he was best route runner of all WR or something? Nuts
April 26th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
this is the only footage of slade norris i could find.he at the end of the video running a 40.looks big and fast for a olb not a de.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kj0E23Fg4Y
April 26th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
He did mention fargas
April 26th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Good point 951, but that may simply be because Fargas is the least exciting skill position player we have. I actually like Rankin enough to justify trading Fargas for a late round pick. I’d love for those carries to go to Bush and McFadden, and if need be, even Rankin.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Even Brien can see how bad of a pick Darius Gump was.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
# IndianaRaider Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Cable says we are going to run the ball and toss the football over their heads, then the espn crew went on about how no other team uses that system anymore since back when players wore leather helmets.
———-thats exactly how Tomlim just xplained the Steelers reason for picking M Wallece…to run of the coverage so Ward and the rest of the offense has more manuevering room. believe me it will work in a hundred years, even if just the current regulations/rules/penaltys are in tact then. you know how the “competition-committee” makes sure the points, TDs keep coming…
April 26th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
i wonder if al davis drafted the velociraptors when he was an owner in the B.C. football league 2000 years ago ??
April 26th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Hey Al, the least you can do for me is draft Zack Follett.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
I’ve already got my Lechler jersey. I’m about to get my “Darius Gump” jersey tomorrow.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
SnB, what is a “go big or go home” guy?
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Just that Davis doesn’t really care about risk. If he sees something he just goes for it damn the consequences…that’s all…
When I look at the draft it was one huge gamble after another…
I hope it works out
April 26th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Matt Shaunessy? Gotta be kidding me now. The defense will be a joke again and Russell and company better score alot of points. But how can they with no o-line?
April 26th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
HayesDaze,
Are the Raiders known for coaching up guys?
Is the Raider organization a good place for young players to grow and develop into stars?
April 26th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
SnB defense, isn’t it Al’s job to get the guy who has the best chance of improving the Raiders? Does an owner with a record as lousy as Al’s really have the room to gamble at this point? Shouldn’t he be focused on building a winning team, and putting his childish pipe dreams aside?
April 26th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
where`s my damn lotion ?
April 26th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Even Brien can see how bad of a pick Darius Gump was.
You know what I say? I say you should go home back to GREENBOW, ALABAMA!
Shyt is a joke and it wont end.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
I assume we will dump all receivers picked by Kiffin just so Al can say how right he was, otherwise i cant understand we drafted two…
April 26th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
I think Lance Bass is a “go big or go home” guy, too.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
new thread…
April 26th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Brien, I’ve never been to Alabama. Are you high today? Of course you are.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
PLEASE draft Danell Ellerbe!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
“I want the bomb, I want the chronic, I gots to get f**ked up!”
April 26th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
who …?
April 26th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
MR, i may be high…….maybe even drunk……..okay i am drunk but dammit Al is drunk with craziness. This draft makes no sense. But this is the big plan they had all along right?
April 26th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Hey Al, please draft……….
Theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese NUTS!
April 26th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Hey Brien,
Looks like the back 7 is still responsible for run defense
April 26th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Not a bad draft Tommy Trojan
April 26th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Brien, I’ve never been to Alabama. Are you high today? Of course you are.
MR, it was a Forrest Gump reference. It went over your head buddy
April 26th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
SnB Defense Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Hey Brien,
Looks like the back 7 is still responsible for run defense
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No it looks like the front 7 is still soft as medicated cotton. We got the Liberachi Defense
April 26th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
at least we’re getting closer to the point where we have so much money tied into other positions that we HAVE to draft blue chip D lineman. Our secondary should hopefully be set, our skill positions have to be set at this point, morison and howard take care of two positions at LB, so there aren’t any other places to go next year.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Dude… just curious.. with your incredibly vast knowledge of scouting and player personell.. why arent you working at an NFL team.. rather then sitting on a blog all day… again.. just curious
April 26th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Hey Tommy, 11 picks til’ Francois???
April 26th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Tomycar Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Dude… just curious.. with your incredibly vast knowledge of scouting and player personell.. why arent you working at an NFL team.. rather then sitting on a blog all day… again.. just curious
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I see raidernews.com isnt cracking enough for ya huh? The team will be 6-10 at best. These picks suck
April 26th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Here come the multi-personalities now…this will be entertaining. Dude, you’re going to have allies. Dunno if they’re worth bragging about, though.
Will one person — ONE PERSON — tell me what DHB’s downfall is? The fact he wasn’t a “good value?” How do any of you know that without seeing him in pre-season at the very least? Before Nnamdi gives us an update on how they go head-to-head in camp?
The easiest thing to do is say the wrong pick was made, when there are a few thousand guys to pick from (and none have proven anything). It takes ballz to go get who you think is your man.
Weak, and no character to proclaim failure before anybody’s stepped on the field. Weak and no character — coming from BrienThePrivates, MR, Norcoma Bob, and whatever the aliases are today. What a surprise!
April 26th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Does anyone know if Franz Joseph got drafted?
April 26th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Have you seen this clip? Gruden is talking as f e were the coach of the raiders, he uses a lot of “We’s”
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80ffacdc&campaign=ec0009
April 26th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
cant wait 4 Mitchell 2 bust craptrees azz in pre
April 27th, 2009 at 1:39 am
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