Sharp criticism from Carter, Dilfer
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, April 26th, 2009 at 1:42 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The day started out nice as the Raiders received an apology of sorts from NFL Network Mike Mayock over his downgrading of safety Mike Mitchell, but later disintegrated after an ESPN studio session following a routine interview with coach Tom Cable by Suzy Kolber.
Some highlights:
Dilfer
“(Russell is) more accurate than people give him credit for. He’s definitely not a quarterback yet. He doesn’t do all the things quarterbacks do. I do believe the work ethic question is a legitimate one. When you can become 280 pounds in the offseason, that tells me something about how you value working out.
“Among the issues, you’re talking about speed going to help a quarterback. What about trust and dependability. And I’ll segue to you (Cris Carter), because what you did in the NFL, is a craft. It’s not just about being a fast athlete. It’s a craft. And quarterbacks need a receiver that value it as a craft, so you can trust and depend on them, especially in the critical moments in games.
Carter
“I don’t know how to build a football team. I admit that. And there’s a lot of other things I don’t know how to do. I do know how to make a receiver into a receiver, and I do know how to recognize a receiver when he can make a contribution to an NFL team.
“Darrius Heyward-Bey _ he made honorable mention All-ACC. Now you’re telling me that I just spent 50 million dollars on my quarterback, he’s my franchise quarterback, and I’m going to get a guy who’s going to be in the ACC, be inconsistent. He had games when he didn’t even catch a ball. So how’s that going to help JaMarcus? If he can’t catch a ball in an ACC game, he gets to the National Football League, now you know they have a reason to make him disappear.”
Dilfer
“It’s a different game. You can’t protect long enough to throw the football, fifth-five, sixty-yards down the field. It doesn’t work. That formula, run, run, run, suck ‘em up, throw it over their head, doesn’t work. It doesn’t work anywhere, and hasn’t worked for years.
“That’s why the best offensive coaches in this league offense understand the horizontal stretch as well as a vertical stretch. You have balance your offense to move the chains.”
Carter
“Honorable mention! Did anybody mention that?”
On Sunday morning, Mayock, when told the Chicago Bears were reportedly poised to select Mitchell, “apologized” for saying the Raiders could actually drafted the cornerback in the fifth round or later.
Mayock said he had seen no film of Mitchell and had no real handle on his skills.
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April 26th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Tommy Trojan25, go suck your self. USC will be terrible this year. They won’t finish better than 6-5
April 26th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Carter and Dilfer are tools just like Tommy Trojan.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
I am very pleased with this draft, however. Speed, speed, and more speed. That’s how you win games in this league. Speed kills! Davis still knows what he is doing, and I think you all need to give him some more credit and respect.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
# Tommy Trojan25 Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Heyward-Bey will be one of the best, most fear WRs in the NFL.
Mitchell will be one of the best, most feared safeties in the NFL.
Shaughnessy will be one of the funniest defensive lineman in the rotation, you know?
I don’t know much, but I know this, you know?
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I can live with DHB as i can live with McFadden and Russell didnt want any of the guys, but heck now they are Raiders…
Mike Mitchell seems to have it, I posted a youtube clip just as we picked him, he seems to be okay, him at SS and Branch at FS thats okay..
I still wanted more for us trading down in the 2nd… we should ahve had a 5th round pick IMO too long between our last picks…
Furthermore, I wanted Antoine Caldwell in 3rd, so Russell had some protection. this Matt fella is just not necessary and he thats the pick that pizzes me off the most…
the WR in 4th and the OLB makes me shake my head, we need DT and ILB…
April 26th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
With their 6th rounder, the Raiders should take the fastest cornerback available.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
If nothing else, the Raiders are consistant. Why draft football players, when you can draft speed. You can’t coach speed, “You know”…
April 26th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Dude Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
HayesDaze,
Are the Raiders known for coaching up guys?
Is the Raider organization a good place for young players to grow and develop into stars?
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Uhh, not until very recently. Time was we never “rebuilt,” we just reloaded all the old guys while hitting a homerun with a youngster or two. Now, whatever else you want to call it, we’re closer to being rebuilt than in any recent memory. Just add the right old guy or two to the mix, and we’re there.
Rebuilding means young talent must improve, and yes, our young talent has improved improved greatly.
Of course, I’ll be roundly criticized for saying our youngsters have improved. That can’t be, or the multi-personalities would be…gulp…wrong again!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
RosevilleRaider Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
If nothing else, the Raiders are consistant. Why draft football players, when you can draft speed. You can’t coach speed, “You know”…
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Exactly! You can’t teach speed. Great picks. This draft will be remembered as one of the best ever.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Good for Mayock!!!! You would never see Kiper or McShay do something like that.
I am so sick of analysts talking about a team they no nothing about! Cable and his staff are not preparing to have 7 second drops and chuck and heave every play… That was Art Shell and 2006 – you guys are three years late on that one! I am sick of this create the straw man and tear it down crap. All they are saying is they want to have a vertical threat so the defense has to play the team more striaght up. To many teams have no long threat so teams stack up on them.
I mean does BSPN really think that Al Davis just looks at 40 times and all the coaches want to insitute an offense from the 1960’s? Did Russell really weigh in at 280 lbs. Was Dilfer looking over him on the scale? Give me a break!!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Al figures one of these times he will look like a genius again. Irs only a matter of time eh? Its not looking good
April 26th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Repost:
Here come the multi-personalities now…this will be entertaining. Dude, you’re going to have allies. Dunno if they’re worth bragging about, though.
Will one person — ONE PERSON — tell me what DHB’s downfall is? The fact he wasn’t a “good value?” How do any of you know that without seeing him in pre-season at the very least? Before Nnamdi gives us an update on how they go head-to-head in camp?
The easiest thing to do is say the wrong pick was made, when there are a few thousand guys to pick from (and none have proven anything). It takes ballz to go get who you think is your man.
Weak, and no character to proclaim failure before anybody’s stepped on the field. Weak and no character — coming from BrienThePrivates, MR, Norcoma Bob, and whatever the aliases are today. What a surprise!
April 26th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
# DHarris Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
this guy does NOT sound as the sharpest tool in the shed….
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HAHA… too funny, this guy is going to make more money in the next year than you will likely in the next twenty! He’s being interviewed, over the phone no-less, and he’s probably just 21 years old. When you were 21 you were likely studying for your GED in night school and the interview you had to give was to the police department.
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bwhaahhahaha… he most likely will, though i earn what I do, and i love my job, I have more responsibility than any of our Raiders does and i really dont care how much they earn… i assume they dont care about how much i earn… or how much i pay in taxes which btw is 56%…
one thing is sure i didnt even sound that stupid when i was 12…. I speak 5½ languages, ive studied what i want and never paid a dime…
April 26th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Cant teach speed is correct. But you can preach stupidity in the front office. Raiders are tripping today. Hope Al makes a miracle happen
April 26th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Our pick is coming up!
April 26th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Linemen, linemen, linemen!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
nice, espn is playing virtual madden 2010. Maybe they could load up the Raiders and explain how to stop the run.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Indiana Raider
To stop the run take the joystick out of Rob Ryans hand!!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Tommy Trojan, the pick is going to be a CB.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Repost:
Here come the multi-personalities now…this will be entertaining. Dude, you’re going to have allies. Dunno if they’re worth bragging about, though.
Will one person — ONE PERSON — tell me what DHB’s downfall is? The fact he wasn’t a “good value?” How do any of you know that without seeing him in pre-season at the very least? Before Nnamdi gives us an update on how they go head-to-head in camp?
The easiest thing to do is say the wrong pick was made, when there are a few thousand guys to pick from (and none have proven anything). It takes ballz to go get who you think is your man.
Weak, and no character to proclaim failure before anybody’s stepped on the field. Weak and no character — coming from BrienThePrivates, MR, Norcoma Bob, and whatever the aliases are today. What a surprise!
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Words of a beta male who adores watching reality television!
You must be pulling a standup routine right now. The lines are awful dont you see that. That is where the anger comes from. You dont need NFL credentials to know that a team’s trenches must be tough in order to have a championship caliber franchise. You guys kill me sometimes
April 26th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Good for you LMN, you’re an amazing human being. I deffer to you on all matters as you are infinitely more intelligent and credible than I am.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Indiana Raider
To stop the run take the joystick out of Rob Ryans hand!!!!
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k, done. Now what? heh
April 26th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
AFTER THIS DRAFT I DIDNT THINK I WOULD EVER SMILE AGAIN I WAS SO DEPRESSED.
BUT THIS KID HAD ME ROLLING WITH ALL THAT “you know” STUFF THAT WAS HILARIOUS I WAS SERIOUSLY TEARING UP I WAS LAUGHING SO HARD.
THOSE WERE DIRECT QUOTES THE WRITER WASNT EVEN TRYING TO WRITE COMEDY.
AL DAVIS KNEW WE ALL NEEDED CHEERING UP THATS WHY HE MADE THAT PICK SO WE COULD READ THOSE Q&A AND GET A GOOD LAUGH HE REALLY IS A GENIUS.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
what will our next pick be? a QB???? a RB??? or a WR ?? or a CB?
April 26th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Follet is still available? Too bad the Raiders aren’t in the market for an upgrade at LB.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
damn Bear pascoe is gone. If we don’t get Murtha I will completely get shut out on my wish list of playas.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Let’s go off this draft alone…………..how many players will be with the Raiders when Obama is up for re-election?
April 26th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
CB
April 26th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
# Tommy Trojan25 Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Good for you LMN, you’re an amazing human being. I deffer to you on all matters as you are infinitely more intelligent and credible than I am.
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LOL, I highly doubt that, remember you ahd the McFadden pick =)
April 26th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Is Chris Baker still on the board?
April 26th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Brannan Southerland anyone? Nice FB with hands and strength
April 26th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Indy
Unfortunately “you know” is the answer…
April 26th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
DMunoz26 said:
Exactly! You can’t teach speed. Great picks. This draft will be remembered as one of the best ever.
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D — There’s no more guarantee of this being the best ever, than there is that it’s been a horrible draft. Those guarantees are as worthless as the multi’s saying everything the team did this weekend was wrong.
Neither extreme is true, until they are proven true.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Captain Munnerlyn CB South Carolina
This will be the pick boys!
April 26th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
# Tommy Trojan25 Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Good for you LMN, you’re an amazing human being. I deffer to you on all matters as you are infinitely more intelligent and credible than I am.
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LOL, I highly doubt that, remember you ahd the McFadden pick =)
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And the Schilens pick, and the Scott pick. Not bad if I do say so myself, but I won’t say so myself, you know…
April 26th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
DHB was drafted at 7 and the Raiders believe he is a starter in 09 right?
April 26th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Look…its a big boom or a big blazin bust…..with all of the picks…even the 4th rounders…because of the players passed over.
All the talking in the world can’t overcome the fact that the Raiders deployed the WORST draft strategy since Mike Ditka trading all his picks for Ricky Williams.
Its nothing against the players…DHB and the recently discovered Mike Mitchell have a lot of potential and have the RIGHT attitude. Also a chip on their shoulders.
Louis Murphy will give depth and is a better option than the wasted pick of Arman Shields, Watkins and Holland…3 players that were never going to see the field anyway….
Slade Norris and Shaughnessy…depth guys…not like they aren’t any better or worse then what’s on the roster now….with the exception of Trevor Scott…Scott is a player…but maybe Norris or Shaughnessy develop into player too.
The players are going to the their best to shine. Especially with the spotlight on them,
But Davis’ draft strategy. Its indefensible…It was the worst drafting strategy I have ever seen. THat’s not up for debate. I don’t care how good those players develop. Absolutely no regard for value or salary cap
April 26th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
LOL, pick “Favorite” i would love to have a jersey with that on the back =)
April 26th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Murtha or Baker @ 199. i bet they will both on the team in 2012.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
It’s possible that Shaughnessy was scared shi!tless doing that interview, or at least he was nervous. I’m terrible at public speaking, so I’m gonna give him the benefit of the doubt here.
You know?
April 26th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
951,
they got a line backer.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Might as well draft captian morgan, at least that would serve a purpose.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Trojan…
I DO remember, I ahd schilens and Branch =) and when you start mentioning this Scott, I did some research and understood why you ahd him, so he was on my board as well…
Man i miss Kiffin making draft picks…
April 26th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Wonder what bullshyt pick this is…………….any guesses
April 26th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
All I can say is:
YIPPIE I AYYYYY MINI SIRLOIN BURGERS!
YIPPIE I OHHHHH MINI SIRLOIN BURGERS!!
Ya Know?
April 26th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
My problem is the team didn’t get more physical up front.
Still relying on the secondary to stop the run…..
April 26th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
It’s pointless to complain about a 6th round pick, but I’m definitely going to give an honest effort.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
how will we stop the run??
April 26th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Next pick will be A.Q. Shipley, C from PSU
April 26th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
How long until our rookies get to some sort of a camp? This will be fascinating to hear about their skills and development. At least we are never bored as Raiders fans.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
April 26th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
yeah, this pick will be a cornerback…
April 26th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
please a DT or an ILB…
April 26th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
I think the Raiders just drafted Bill Cosby.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Here comes the Cornerback pick!
April 26th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Not to defend Davis but does anyone really care what Trent Dilfer has to day? Trent Dilfer? Really?
As for Cris Carter, he already admits to not knowing how to build a team nor coach, I will assume.
As for this draft, I do not see what the big negatives are.
Cliff BRanch was taken in the fourth round, was he a horrible players? DHB may be Branch but at least he gets a chance?
April 26th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Raiders get chris baker or draft a FB
April 26th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
u like dat word ? audacity ? didnt know raider fans had a vocab huh ?
April 26th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
hmm… did i spell it right .?
April 26th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Maybe Mitchell can break every RB in the AFC West? That is the only shot this team has at stopping the Run this season. Unless Kelly magically has a breakout year, but not holding my breath.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
3 min to another bs pick?
April 26th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Draft Follett! God Dammit!
April 26th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Both the Chiefs and the Raiders passed up one of the top two players in the draft and reached for another player that they thought better fit thier system, yet the Raiders are the only ones recieving criticism.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
here it comes
April 26th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
here we go…
April 26th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
anyhew … fukk trent dilfer . couldnt throw a whopper at a fat bitch . lousy super bowl winning bum ….
April 26th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Yeah!!! A lineman!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
DarthPirate Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
How long until our rookies get to some sort of a camp? This will be fascinating to hear about their skills and development. At least we are never bored as Raiders fans.
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2 weeks
April 26th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
what is up with all these odd names we keep drafting?
April 26th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
draft duke calhoun ///
April 26th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Stryker Sulak (DE) Missouri
lets hope he can stop the run, you know….
April 26th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Al must be going after the weirdest names he can find.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
who we draft ? i cant afford cable …
April 26th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Another DE? Oh my god. A practice squad/Special Teamer that more than likely gets axed. Great
April 26th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Hell yeah! We just picked up DE Sulak!
HAHAHAHA
April 26th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Dorian…
Stryker Sulak (DE) Missouri
April 26th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/Stryker-Sulak.php
Al drafted this guy because of his name. Admit it.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Stryker Sulak?
April 26th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
So much for thinking we would see Zack Follett picked.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Another fast pass rusher with a motor.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
lol. his name is stryker . what is he ? a 1976 porn star ? stryker six-pack in ” return of the wet guy” …… homo porn ….
April 26th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
16 more picks until Jean-Francois
April 26th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
NFL network would prefer not to talk about Raiders pick lol
April 26th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Instead of getting Slade Norris who is just a Ricky Brown clone with less ability that we are gonna try to morph into a SLB, why didnt we take Brinkley or Beckwith??? Brinkley and Beckwith both excelled at playing the run and could have taken over for Brown on day one. This draft has made no sense so far, besides Mitchell none of the picks i am even ok with. I wanted Louis Murphy in the 4th, but only if we didnt go receiver in the 1st. This Stryker Sulak sounds like anotheR Trevor Scott but with less talent.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
this draft just proves TC is a tool..hope im wrong
April 26th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Slade and Stryker back to back
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Al, I will buy season tickets if you draft OLB Zack Follet
April 26th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Let’s draft Bill Cosby!
April 26th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
I don’t like this pick…. I am not sure what we are seeing in this guy…. This one really does look like a FA pickup….
April 26th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
We are the Globo-Gym Purple Cobras and we will, we will, ROCK YOU!
Allow me to introduce Blade, Lazer, Blazer,
….Slade, ….Stryker
April 26th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
ohhhhhh, a trade
April 26th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
55 tackles, 15.5 tackles for loss, 10.5 sacks and an NCAA-leading six forced fumbles
forget what anybody says, Stryker was a beast at Mizzou
plus 6′5 250 4.7 40
I LIKE THIS PICK
Looks like Marshall plans on bringing a lot of pressure. Im liking this
April 26th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Tommy
Regarding post 85. Is this draft leading you to drugs????
April 26th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
DL?
April 26th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
It better be Follett!
April 26th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
TE, WTF?!?!
April 26th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
A TE?
Who called it?
I guess these all really are special teams picks…
April 26th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
“the give to tomlinson , running left , runs right into stryker , breaks a tackle! stiff arms slade ! bull- dozes mike from ohio , touchdown !! CHOKERS !! … … wtf?
April 26th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Im hoping for Gerald Cadogan 6th and RJF in the 7th
April 26th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
April 26th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Tommy
Regarding post 85. Is this draft leading you to drugs????
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I was on drugs before the draft but I guess you could say that if you want, you know?
April 26th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
who did they trade for the last pick?
April 26th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Overview
Despite signing with Iowa in 2004, Myers’ career seemed at a standstill. Not even listed on the depth chart in the spring of 2006, he developed into a reliable red-zone target as a junior, scoring five touchdowns on just 21 receptions for the season. Again listed as a backup entering his senior season, Myers parlayed injuries by others and his own development into earning first-team All-Big Ten accolades. Myers isn’t a special athlete, but in tying for the team lead with four receiving touchdowns in 2008, he is viewed by some as an ascending prospect. Others, however, question if his effectiveness was due to defenses stacking the line of scrimmage in an effort to slow running back Shonn Greene.
This is who Al traded UP to get? I hear a pasture calling for you Al, head into the light there big guy.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
worst draft ever.
we needed linemen we got track athletes and often injured fringe players…..and all of them were reaches.
4-12 if we are lucky
April 26th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Stryker Sulak?
Sounds like a character from Duck Dodgers from the 23rd and 1/2 century!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
A tight end?
WTF?
I think Al is getting to be like Howard Hughes in his last days….
April 26th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Hey, watch it. Don’t be dissing Duck Dodgers.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
OH NO IM SO AFFENDED. CRIS CARTER PUTTING DOWN THE RAIDERS, AL DAVIS, AND TOM CABLE. UMMMM HOW MANY SUPERBOWLS DID CARTER WIN? AND REALLY! DILFER! MR. ONE SHOT WONDER GIVING ADVICE TO RUSSELL, LMFAO! WE HAVE GARCIA FOR THAT. ESPN IS SUCH A JOKE!
http://WWW.SILVERANDBLACKATTACK.BLOGSPOT.COM
April 26th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Dilfer, who was never much of an NFL QB says this:
“It’s a different game. You can’t protect long enough to throw the football, fifth-five, sixty-yards down the field. It doesn’t work. That formula, run, run, run, suck ‘em up, throw it over their head, doesn’t work. It doesn’t work anywhere, and hasn’t worked for years.”
Hey, stupid, you’re not much an analyst, either. That’s exactly how the Pittsburgh Steelers won their Super Bowl. Pound Pound Pound Bettis, then make the D scared of getting caught inside with Parker, then deep down the field.
It’s very hard to respect the job people do when they know less than people who aren’t being paid merely for their opinion.
April 26th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
TRENT DILFER YUR 3 INCH PRICK DOESNT WORK EITHER
June 14th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
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