Who needs Cadillacs?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, May 6th, 2009 at 9:06 am in Oakland Raiders.
It seemed fairly sincere at the time, or at least as convincing as any NFL coach can be in the week leading up to the draft.
In a pre-draft press briefing, Cable talked admiringly of the four players who were legitimate left tackle prospects _ Baylor’s Jason Smith, Virginia’s Eugene Monroe, Alabama’s Andre Smith and Mississippi’s Michael Oher. He later referred to them as “Cadillacs.”
“I’ve never had one like that,” Cable said.
A few days later, the Raiders passed on Monroe, Oher and Arizona’s Eben Britton (the latter two were more likely trade-down possibilities than at No. 7) and selected Maryland wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey, apparently of the opinion that while a Cadillac is a fine car, the Ferrari was the better option.
Which was followed by Cable admitting that he’d purposely oversold the idea of getting a lineman.
“We kind of went into it talking about the offensive line for a purpose, really, because we had signed Khalif Barnes and Erik Pears at tackle,” Cable said. “Then there was the trade (for Samson Satele), which was huge,” Cable said, going on to mention the depth at guard behind starters Robert Gallery and Cooper Carlisle, starting with Paul McQuistan.”
When the Raiders meet for five practice this weekend, starting Friday, at their mandatory minicamp, Cable’s future as coach will depend on his skill in developing that line.
Barnes (6-foot-5, 325 pounds) missed a start because he was late for a meeting, allowed 9.5 sacks and was penalty prone in Jacksonville. The Jaguars made no effort to sign him and happily snapped up Monroe when the Virginia lineman fell to No. 8.
Frankly, Barnes didn’t have many other options, although Cable wanted him badly. Al Davis sold Barnes on the idea of signing a one-year contract with the hopes of getting his career back on track and getting something done in Oakland down the road. He’ll initially compete with Mario Henderson to be the bodyguard for JaMarcus Russell at left tackle.
Pears played both on the left and right side in Denver before missing the 2008 season due to injury. he started all 16 games in 2007 for a heavily criticized Broncos line. He wasn’t even given a qualifying offer by Denver, which could have retained his services for a modest salary.
With a new coaching regime, it could be the Broncos are continuing to move away from a strict zone blocking scheme. At 6-8, 305, Pears has the angular look of a zone blocker that Cable’s system favors.
Satele, a two-year starter, was acquired for a fourth-round pick and a swap of sixth-round choices from Miami, a playoff team which instead opted for Raiders free agent Jake Grove. The Dolphins head coach, Tony Sparano, is a former line coach, and exec Bill Parcells knows a thing or two about line play.
The other newcomer was Marcus Johnson, a former Minnesota second-round pick who never panned out and will be tried at guard.
There may be a Cadillac in this crew, but right now its on blocks and it’s up to Cable and line coach Jim Michalczik to make the necessary repairs.
The good news is Cable, as a line coach, had the look of a Bobb McKittrick or Alex Gibbs. McKittrick and Gibbs made due with smaller lines which relied on athleticism and cut blocking. They typically put lines on the field made up of castoffs, undrafted free agents and late-round draft picks.
It was under Cable’s guidance that Robert Gallery went from a failed tackle prospect to a top-flight guard. The improvement in the Raiders line after his arrival after the Art Shell-Irv Eatman-Jackie Slater disaster was remarkable.
Not that he’s been perfect. Kwame Harris, anyone? The personnel needed an upgrade, because Cornell Green was never counted on to be a starter and he’s lined up at right tackle 22 times in two years.
Any chance Russell has of leading the Raiders to .500 and beyond rests with Oakland being successful running the ball, as well as Cable and Michalczik getting more out of the line than the sum of its parts would indicate.
Do they move Barnes or Henderson to the right side, and when does it happen? Or is Pears a viable option as a starter? The middle three spots are secure, but who is first in line after an injury?
It will begin to sort itself out on the field starting Friday.
Minicamp details
Practices are from 10:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. and 4:10 p.m. to 6:10 p.m. Friday and Saturday. Players will be available for interviews on the field following the first practice but the locker room will be closed. Cable will address the media at 2 p.m.
Sunday’s practice is scheduled for 11:45 a.m., with Cable available at approximately 2 p.m.
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May 6th, 2009 at 9:10 am
YO
May 6th, 2009 at 9:11 am
We have 3 MOST EXELLENT RB’S
May 6th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Man its H-E-R-E !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 6th, 2009 at 9:12 am
here
May 6th, 2009 at 9:19 am
4eva,
you’re all alone, so you’ll just have to moderate yourself.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:33 am
If Bubba Rump shows up at 270+ for minicamp, the nation is gonna be maxi-pissed.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Though I like Cable as an OC, he has shown that he does not know talent any better than Al when he talked Al the player’s pal into “Turnstile” Harris for the LT position. Now he rebuilds the “O” line with rejects from other teams and passes on Monroe in the draft when he fell right into our hands.
I also preferred Brace in the 2nd since the Raiders are 31 st against the run.
I have been on a campaign for a better “O” line since the glory years when Oakland proved in each of their Superbowl wins that a dominant “O” line sustains a run game against the better defenses. A dominant “O” line elevates the play of the rest of the team. The same works for a dominant “D” line but JR is in a pivotal year and needs all the help he can get from a better “O” line than is in Oakland at the present. What good is a WR when the QB is always in 3rd and long with an obvious passing down. I know guys like Sean Merriman’s of the NFL are licking their chops.
Cable is convinced the ZBS is a panacea for mediocre talent but not so and now we go into 2009 with another mediocre “O” line and a “D” line that has not been improved on.
I wish Bey and Mitchell all the success in the world but until AL gets it, the Raiders are not going back to the playoffs.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Barnes is an upgrade on Harris because, unlike Harris he has played at the right level. Barnes had an excellent rookie season but lost his way last year – as did many in the Jags locker room. The Jerry Porter factor?
Satele is an upgrade on Grove because, he is younger, less injury prone and more aggressive. Miami are taking a real risk with a serial under-achiver like Grove.
Pears is an upgrade on Green, Wilson and Marten. He was not to blame for the Broncos struggles, he really suits our style ZBS and he has a big point to prove with the Donkeys.
The key question is where does Mario Henderson play. If he can build on the Tampa/Houston performances, then we have found our LT and Barnes and Pears compete for RT. If not, Barnes to LT.
I am okay with our Tackles. My biggest worry is actually back-up to Carlisle and Gallery. Depth at Guard is very shallow.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:02 am
666,
lol
May 6th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Interesting posts 11 and 12 do a good job of representing the two schools of thought on the O-line. Half empty and half full in a sense. I think the truth is closer to half full but we shall see.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:06 am
whats up fellas?
May 6th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Who needs Cadillacs?
WE DO.
How do you expect your overpriced quarterback to throw the ball way downfield to your overpriced, super fast wide reciever unless you have a few Cadillacs up front to give him the time? Daaaa.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Just a thought:
The Eagles traded one of their 1st RD picks for OT Peters from the Bills. Peters had a bad season last year, due to him being unhappy with his contract. Barnes played well for 2 yrs before last, he halped block for a team that made the POs, had 2 1k yards RBs, and his QB had a great year. IMHO no one on that Jags team played well last year, and that’s why they went from a PO team to a losing team.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Jerry, love the blog and looking fwd to the reports this wkd. FYI, you typed Raiders got Satele for a 4, got him for a 6 and the swap of places was in four, dropped 16 spots. Also, guy Cable said will play guard is Marcus Johnson, not Henderson.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:12 am
RRS, how many linebackers do we usually carry? You expect we’ll keep eleven?
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BSJ: Last year we had Morrison, Howard, Brown, Thomas (Cooper after Robert Thomas was placed on IR), Alston & Williams. Plus Ekejiuba & Condo
This year we have 3 open spots. Thomas/Cooper are gone (RIP Marquis), Alston & Williams only have value on ST. We need a guy who can play DEFENSE too. Norris & Sulak are the favorites to win 2 of the 3 spots since we spent precious draft picks on them. Alston, Williams, Nixon & Joseph will battle for the final roster spot. I hope Frantz Joseph wins!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Helped, sorry.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:13 am
LOL bob love the post 6 ……..
Raider O,
Bob pledged to never say anything truthful and bow down to all that is holy…..JM that is… his post are quite funny!!!
Hey Narco good luck At HQ and go A’s
May 6th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Who needs cadillacs?? I wouldn’t mind having one. Especially one that is 6′7″, 320 with a ton of upside. We are going to have a lot of excellent side by side comparisons going on over the next two-three years. Barnes vs. Monroe Crabtree vs. Heyward-Bey Satele vs. Grove. The issue with Kwame Harris was not that Cable could not get him to perform. Cable did a very good job and Harris actually played fairly well all year. His problem were the penalties, particularly false starts, which kept coming at the most inopportune times. That, no one could seem to correct.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Whats good Double R???
I hope Our Rook LB’s push all those guys like I said yesterday Competion is healthy cable will put the guy who wants it the most on the field….
which is good and bad see the fargas/bush debate. but as far as defense goes its different the guy who wants it most is usally the best for the job.
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how’s it going OAKlifer?
couldn’t agree more!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:16 am
If you guys want a Cadillac have your wife sell Mary Kay products. Then when she wins a Caddy go and get a Black & Silver paint job …
May 6th, 2009 at 10:18 am
does Condo play ST or strickly a longsnapper? It seems like a waste of a roster spot to me for a guy who only see’s field action when we punt 5-6 times a game.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:19 am
OAK,
LMAO
May 6th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Both tackle spots upgraded, Guard was a strength and will remain the same with added depth including Green and a healthy Mcquistan, and my Dolphin fan buddy’s have assured me that Satele is a very aggressive leader on the field which definately will be an upgrade over an injury prone Grove. Our rb’s have another year under their belts so the real k is the passing game. If someone besides Miller can consistently create seperation our D will look a hell of a lot better well rested
May 6th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Indeed, the Raider’s biggest gamble this offseason is hoping the additions of Barnes and Satele – and the development of Henderson – can solidify one of the worst offensive fronts in the NFL into a functional unit.
Apparently, Cable and Davis feel confident that we have the horses and coaching to get the job done. How else to explain completely ignoring the O-line in the draft ?
Even in the undrafted free agency signings only one guard was added, yet several WR’s were signed. In the draft the emphasis on offense was WR and a blocking TE.
I doubt many Raider fans would have guessed that the organization wouldn’t have selected some help up front at some point in the draft.
I hope Davis and Cable are right, because as a long time Raider fan the utter inability to score points these last few years has been shocking and maddening. Even in our glory years we never had a truly dominating defense. Those championship teams were offensive juggernauts built around dominating offensive lines. Yes, the defenses were solid, but the truth is when we were dominant we could outscore any opponent and we were always in every game. Compare that to the recent futility when even a 7 point deficit appeared insurmountable.
We can grouse about Fargas, wonder about Jamarcus, hope that DHB proves to be a wise choice, but in the end we’re not going anywhere without a vast improvement on the offensive line.
Jerry is right, Cable’s future and the 2009 season hinges on the play of Henderson, Gallery, Satele, Carlisle and Barnes.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Going great Double R,
Love this time of year OTA right around the corner..roster battels and every one thinking they know who MR is and what he’s up too…if you ask me by all of us talking bout him he kinda has us by the balls…
I really hope frantz gets that last roster spot you were talking bout…not that I dnt like Alston, Williams..but I REALLY like this Frantz kid!!!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:23 am
I agree. It’s a waste of a roster spot, ask the Giants!! lol
May 6th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Next year’s 2nd rounder will net us our Cadillac. We’ll just make do our Lincoln MKS’ this year.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:24 am
not that I dnt like Alston, Williams..but I REALLY like this Frantz kid!!!
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exactly. Alston & Williams can’t play MLB!
Here’s hoping Frantz Joseph is a beast on special teams…
May 6th, 2009 at 10:24 am
RaiderRockstar
Whiff
Whiff
Whiff
Oops I missed that tackle and took a band angle!!
Pretty accurate if you ask me.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:24 am
IndianaRaider Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 10:18 am
does Condo play ST or strickly a longsnapper? It seems like a waste of a roster spot to me for a guy who only see’s field action when we punt 5-6 times a game.
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I think he plays both!! and with Lechler being our strong point lets not take away his comfort zone….we punt and kick a lot of field goals…..
May 6th, 2009 at 10:25 am
No doubt the line is better than last year. My concern: That’s not saying much! But I can’t help but be encouraged by the last few games (w/ the exception of Cadillac running roughshod through the D). If the D is upgraded via scheme/coaching and the momentum continues to build on offense, we will be competetive in this division. Let’s GO!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Raider O Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 10:23 am
I agree. It’s a waste of a roster spot, ask the Giants!! lol
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hmmm niners????
May 6th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Morning gentleman and ladies
May 6th, 2009 at 10:27 am
does Condo play ST or strickly a longsnapper?
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he plays on the kick and the punt team. he’s also an emergency linebacker. I’ve seen him play some LB in preseason games … i’m not impressed. If he wasn’t an awesome LS he wouldn’t be on the team. He beat out Adam Treu, who was a Raider for 10 or 11 years!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:27 am
OG
What is up?
May 6th, 2009 at 10:28 am
We were 10th in the run last year, and we upgraded the youth/talent with another year in Cable’s system. We’ll hold it together until we add a piece or two next year.
It’s the 2nd TE position that I’m interested in…Not that I don’t like Stewart, but if we can find a guy similar to the Jints Kevin Boss who can hold the line while Miller goes out, and then occasionally catches a pass with a reliable set of hands, that would do wonders for the line’s passblocking.
And Red Zone Productivity is the key this year.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Giants, Bills, Cowboys, and a few other teams have lost PO games due to bad Snaps on winning field goals.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:34 am
RD,
Good morning sir.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Morning big O!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:38 am
We don’t have that problem. We another problem, Jano can only kick from one side of the field. Away from the White Lines!!!
We also have to keep DHB away from Jano!!!
LMAO
May 6th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Tooz – we drafted that TE in the 7th round…
May 6th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Jano is a true Raider!! Can you imagine Him and Tooz together!!!!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Raiderdogg how the hell are you.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Have a good day y’all
May 6th, 2009 at 10:45 am
the raiders offense will be solid this year, but not spectacular
expect some struggles from both tackle spots and center. expect some more rough games from Russell, who still only has 16 starts under his belt …
hopefully the play calling and run blocking is good. If McFadden & Walker can stay healthy thats an even bigger boost.
no more games upon games without scoring a TD. less 3 and outs
better play from the defense
8 wins with such a tough schedule would be a HUGE improvement
May 6th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Hahaha, they coulda had their own reality show/sitcom fo sho. Sea Bass n Tooz. Modern day Ponch and Jon. Except they don’t do anything for society, lol.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:47 am
SNB
I am excellent, how about you? I’m on my way out for now, but I will be back later. I wish you were going to the Allman’s show on Tuesday. We need to party one of these days. Are you lawn bound on Sunday or did you get seats?
My uncle caught the Dead last night in Chicago. I have yet to hear from him, he is probably still sleeping it off.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Tooz, Jano, Snake, Sir Charles, Atkinson, Tatum, long, Henderson, JR, and a others are True Raiders. IMO. Play hard and party even harder. IMHO
May 6th, 2009 at 10:51 am
I will be at Shorline on Sunday to see the DEAD with Warren Hayes!!
Lawn, if you are going let me know!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:51 am
I’m not saying Condo isn’t worth his own at what he does, just when you think about how the team lacks depth at certain positions, to tell a decent player he will be cut or placed on practice squad just because we have a guy who’s only job is to snap the ball, when we have 2-3 centers on the team doesn’t make a ton of sense to me.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:54 am
WASSUP RAIDER NATION!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:55 am
I’ll be back!!
Later Nation.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Any word on the Lorenzo Neal rumors?
May 6th, 2009 at 10:56 am
SNB
I will not be attending Sunday’s show. I will be treating my wife to a day of pampering on Mother’s Day. She isn’t the biggest Dead fan. Now if it was Al Green or Earth, Wind and Fire she would be all for it!
I am psyched about Tuesday’s show. The Allman Brothers always kill, especially with Warren Haynes and Derek Trucks on the guitars.
Did you hear about the big show up at The Gorge in Washington, east of Seattle? The Dead, The Allman Brothers and the Doobie Brothers! Should be a good time. I have been to the Gorge, it is out in the middle of nowhere. The adjacent parking lot is where everybody camps and parties all night. Like the good old days…
May 6th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Hey Rdogg,
When is that show???
Did you hear about the big show up at The Gorge in Washington, east of Seattle?
May 6th, 2009 at 11:09 am
OAKlifer Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Hey Rdogg,
When is that show???”
OAKlifer -
The show is Saturday 05/16/09. Here is a link:
http://www.livenation.com/edp/eventId/404221
You thinking about going north or do you live in the area?
May 6th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Im stuck in portland for the month working…Hella mad Im missing the shoreline date…man I remember going to shoreline when I was just a punk kid for three days in a row to watch Uncle Jerry….man times were good!!!!!
May 6th, 2009 at 11:12 am
OAKlifer
Did you ever get to camp at the Shoreline on one of those weekends? Those were the days…
May 6th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Just got Phish tix today myself.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:14 am
I was at a Phish show when all of the band members threw Mac and Cheese at the crowd.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Rdogg,
Oh yes…The dead communities were always second to none three days of bardering partying, and anything under the sun…also caught Jerry in his later years once in Eugene at Autzin Three day show Cracker opened up for them.. Then a two day show ant Meadows Where Chuck Berry Opened up for them…I used to take my beer out side and wander around yelling ICE COLD BEER FOR CHOCOLATE!!!!LMAO those WERE the days!!!!
May 6th, 2009 at 11:26 am
I heard about the George Show I have been there I saw Rush there years ago
Great venue!!
May 6th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Hey Dog… Iposted in here a few weeks ago..About my first raider game it was funnier than hellll my dad “pop’s” was with us he had no ticket and was wearing a tie dye partying out in the parking lot..Met up with these dudes that kept calling him Berkley..”clever for raider fans” LOL then one of the guys told him he could have his ticket in the BH if he turned to his left and made a smart ass remark to the guy sitting next to him…Something about being a Donks fan…any ways Pop’s held tru to his word Watched the game and drank beer with those dudes all nite they even came back to party at our hotel!!! Funny tid bit sorry guys!! part of my Raider Lore
May 6th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Autzen Stadium is awesome, almost subterranian the way the stadium is flanked by earth and dirt.
The Gorge is an amazing venue as well. It’s like an oasis in the middle of the high desert.
All right fellas, excellent chatting as usual, but I am out.
Have a good day, hopefully I will be back later today.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:29 am
l8r r8r
May 6th, 2009 at 11:29 am
OAKlifer
Your pops sounds like a good guy, authentic Old School.
Have a good one bro…
May 6th, 2009 at 11:31 am
I seriously can’t understand why is our team set with the players we have, we still need a veteran solid LB, it doesn’t matter all the project we took, they ain’t going to contribute as the game is too fast for them. Why can’t we sign Derrick Brooks or someone who can mentor and play as a linebacker?
May 6th, 2009 at 11:32 am
David White:
The Raiders search for fullback help has turned to a former Fresno State standout other than Lorenzo Neal: veteran running Michael Pittman.
A league source confirmed the interest, while at least two others contend the Raiders remain very interested in also bringing in Neal, the perennial Pro Bowl blocking back.
All this explains why they haven’t signed any undrafted fullbacks after Raiders coach Tom Cable said the position had to be addressed after the draft. Turns out, he’s bent on bringing in a veteran presence.
To that end, Pittman has been in the league since 1998 but only took up the fullback position last season. So why him?
Lorenzo Neal is a bullheaded blocking machine. He can catch a little, but blasting linebackers is what he does best. Returning Raiders fullback Oren O’Neal is a mini version of Neal: he has hands, but they’re only made for blocking. Receiving out of the backfield just isn’t an option.
With all apologies to Luke Lawton, the Raiders remain without a fullback who can catch the ball in the flats. Justin Griffith was that guy the past two seasons, but he’s in Seattle now.
That’s where Pittman comes in.
A physical running back, he has the hands to catch the ball out of the backfield and the freakish bodybuilder’s frame to carry his own as a blocker. Denver figured as much when they moved him to fullback last season in their zone-blocking scheme — the same system used in Oakland.
And don’t forget, for instant quick-hit updates like this, check the Twitter feed at https://twitter.com/bydavidwhite. It’s all Raiders-related, with the occasional Fresno-area references for hometown’s sake.
The obvious concern is Pittman’s controversial past, which includes multiple arrests, etc. He also finished last season on the IR with a neck injury.
Bottom line No. 1: the Raiders expect O’Neal to make a healthy return from major knee surgery, but they want insurance and a more diverse profile at fullback.
Bottom line No. 2: For all this talk about vertical passing and stretching the field, this is still a team that will focus on the run game. Everything else plays off of that premise.
Ideally, if the Raiders want to sign Neal and/or Pittman, they’ll do it by this weekend’s mandatory minicamp, with two-a-days on Friday and Saturday and a single-practice sendoff Sunday.
But then, both players are longtime pro enough, they should not have a problem adjusting in a hurry once/if they do sign.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:35 am
To me cable used the word cadilliac to describe the top tackles for a reason. They were the luxurary picks. Sure it would be nice to have one of them, but do we really need one of them is what cable had to ask him self. He answered no. His whole mentallity matches it. He believes in hard working blue collar bring ur lunch boxes type of philiosophy. So by that kind of mind set, you don’t have no room for luxurary when you have neccissities to fill, and apparently to cable the lines are no longer top priority. Ill trust cable in his evaluations. And as a last side note, why are people so set to be negative and find something wrong in every move the raiders make, espn is one thing, but the very fans is another. We are fans for a reason, through better and worse you support the team. Things will get better, but theirs a difference between being realistic and being a pestimistic espn raider basher. Had to speak my mind thanks.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Though Barnes gave up sacks as much as Kwame Harris last year, one has to remember the Jags lost starting guards Vince Manuwai, Maurice Williams, center Brad Meester and back up left tackle Richard Collier who was the victim of a shooting earlier in the year.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:38 am
The Cincinnati Bengals have released veteran left tackle Levi Jones. The team announced the move earlier today.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:43 am
69. Tackle is the least important position to the ZBS…in theory…
It would’ve been a luxury to take one of these cadillacs, but might’ve paid off.
Bey’s addition spreads the D and keep them from stacking the box.
It should also help our TE’s and other wides when he draws double coverage and don’t forget, DMC can line up wide or in the slot and he and Bush can catch out of the back field.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Can anyone share their idea in this issue.
I seriously can’t understand why is our team set with the players we have, we still need a veteran solid LB, it doesn’t matter all the project we took, they ain’t going to contribute as the game is too fast for them. Why can’t we sign Derrick Brooks or someone who can mentor and play as a linebacker?
May 6th, 2009 at 11:46 am
yo yo yo
May 6th, 2009 at 11:47 am
I am fairly content with the O-line that we have, assuming that next year we make some improvements through the draft, once we have determined the value of Henderson and any weaknesses. I see it as:
LT: Henderson, Pears
LG: Gallery, McQ
C: Satele, Morris
RG: Carlisle, Johnson
RT: Barnes, (Marten, Green or Wilson)
After 2009, they can re-evaluate the performance of Barnes, Carlisle, Satele and Henderson.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:47 am
RaiderDogg Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Autzen Stadium is awesome, almost subterranian the way the stadium is flanked by earth and dirt.
The Gorge is an amazing venue as well. It’s like an oasis in the middle of the high desert.
All right fellas, excellent chatting as usual, but I am out.
Have a good day, hopefully I will be back later today.
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The Gorge at George?
Yeah, its pretty alright and a cool place to see a show, but not with out its foibles. Its a ways out there and the closest towns are small and hotels always booked.
Hotter than h-e-l-l in the summer but as soon as the sun goes down its f’in cold.
Add that to sparse, hornet filled out houses and $6 water, lax security and only average sound and it starts to not be worth it IF you’re going to see and enjoy the music.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:50 am
TrueRaider Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Can anyone share their idea in this issue.
I seriously can’t understand why is our team set with the players we have, we still need a veteran solid LB, it doesn’t matter all the project we took, they ain’t going to contribute as the game is too fast for them. Why can’t we sign Derrick Brooks or someone who can mentor and play as a linebacker?
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Cable feels the D simply needs to execute better. They do need to mind their gaps and play with more discipline, but lack a true MLB and failing that a solid SAM.
Larry Foote was released for cap reasons by the Steelers this week.
Moving Morrison to SAM and installing a better MLB would seem to go a long way. So would putting up oints and sustaining drives by our O.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Michael Pittman is done. A RB converted to FB like they did with Mike Anderson & Reuben Droughns. Only this time he had a neck injury and a checkered past
bring in Lorenzo Neal & Levi Jones!
Foote is headed to the Lions on a 1 year deal
May 6th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Where is the love for Mario Henderson?
May 6th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Thanks for replying Nnamdi21. I agree that Morrison performs better in SLB. I don’t think we can sign Foote as rumors are that he is heading to Detroit. I hope we can get Derrick brooks as he still fast and smart player. There is also marcus washington i believe the redskins didn’t resign him. I just can’t understand how executing better with Morr, How, and Ricky can contribute in stopping the run?
These guys are small and fast linebackers whom excel in pass defense but are horrible in run defense that requires them to outmaneuver the OL and stop the run.
May 6th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Derrick Brooks was a guy I thought the Raiders should at least kick the tires on.
However, that was before we resigned Brown, Alston, Williams, Condo, Ekejiuba and also brought in 4 rookies
I don’t want to part ways with any youngsters that have potential or key special teams contributers for a guy that might only have 1 year left and doesn’t play ST
I don’t care about him being a system fit (from the Tampa 2) … hopefully John Marshall’s defense isn’t anything like Rob Ryan’s was anyways!
May 6th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
everyone wants to move Morrison.well,everyone wanted to move Huff last year.how did that turn out?too many on here think they know more than the coaches who do this for a living and have done it for their whole careers.the coaches see these players every day in practice.don’t you think if they thought moving someone to a different spot would help,it would already be done.
Marco-good call about the negative stuff.
May 6th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
he Cincinnati Bengals have parted ways with Levi Jones, terminating the contract of their starting offensive tackle and former first-round pick.
The move Wednesday was expected. He has been bothered by knee and leg problems in recent years.
Cincinnati took tackle Andre Smith of Alabama with the sixth overall pick in last month’s draft.
Jones’ agent, Ken Zuckerman, had said the Bengals told him in March they planned to trade or release him.
The Bengals selected Jones 10th overall in 2002. He played in 94 games for Cincinnati, missing final six games last season because of an injury.
He got a six-year extension before the 2006 season, which was the last on his previous contract. He was paid $21 million over the first three years of the deal.
May 6th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Marcofromda510 Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 11:35 am
#69…nice post brother
May 6th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Wow, the mod is all over my azz today…so much for razzing Norco Bozo.
May 6th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
and only average sound and it starts to not be worth it IF you’re going to see and enjoy the music.
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Wow N21,
Thats a harsh reveiw Ive been there three times and each time was great….Bring your own food and water and plan on camping for that kinda of weather the campgrounds are nice around there the veiw is Amazing and the sound was wonderfull each time I was there…hmmm
NO PITTMAN
May 6th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Moving Morrison would allow him to put the same numbers he did when he played in his rookie year with Clark as MLB. I think he had 3 sacks along with the high tackles he posted, so we don’t think we better than the coaches but you can deny the numbers and contribution.
May 6th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
and then after his rookie year the coaches moved him to MLB.they must think he is better suited to MLB or else they would try an find someone else for the position(maybe they are-Frantz).
May 6th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Hmmmm…Pittman or Neal…jezuz cripes it is a no-brainer…but let’s see what Al thinks, lol.
May 6th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Nader:
I hear you about the 7th rd. Looks like we picked up around 3 to see what shakes out. The 2 TE sets are huge for us this year.
If Henderson can continue to develop and Barnes gives him actual competition and competency, it’s a win-win. Having those two as the Bookends will be the two biggest players who have to step up. I think Super Mario holds down the LT position.
JaMarcus will explode this year if the pass protection holds up.
This is a running team first, but we will be able to burn people with the pass. I like Cable’s goal of 15th in the League range. Seems realistic.
May 6th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Morrison is NOT fast enough to play outside. Don’t you guys remember the lst game of the season last year when Cutler hit his TE down the seam for a 40 yard gain and Morrison was in coverage trailing the play by five yards?? And that TE wasn’t fast. Plus most people in the league think Morrison has really improved the last few years. You have invested YEARS in this guy. Now you want to change?? What kind of message does that send to the player and the team??
May 6th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Morrison constantly chronically makes bad reads, takes bad angles, bite on play fakes and misdirects, can’t stack and shed consistently, is weak at the POA, audibles poorly and get beat too often on an island. Other than that…
Seriously though, I like Capn’ Kirk. I just think he’s looked out of position far too often. Maybe he’ll get it this year under the “Marshall plan”
May 6th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Oakglenn Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Morrison is NOT fast enough to play outside. Don’t you guys remember the lst game of the season last year when Cutler hit his TE down the seam for a 40 yard gain and Morrison was in coverage trailing the play by five yards?? And that TE wasn’t fast. Plus most people in the league think Morrison has really improved the last few years. You have invested YEARS in this guy. Now you want to change?? What kind of message does that send to the player and the team??
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Morrison should’ve have help over the top.
May 6th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Peace and love Raider nation!
All for now, have a great day!
Konnichiwa bishes!~
May 6th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
N21 understood!, Also saw mathews there..pretty good sound and saw the warped tour when rancid was there!!! We sat up un the grass sound was great but you nailed it yuppppiesss sux and you r right hit and miss!! but the DEAD and Co. would be hit for sure!!
May 6th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
http://www.channelsurfing.net
scroll down to nfl.networks
May 6th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Any word on what this kid Boschetti brings to the table? I hear positive attitude and big motor but undersized. Anyone know if Joseph is gone for good?
May 6th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
William, that is. Pulling for Frantz to make it.
May 6th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Thanks Jerry.
That’s kind of a mishmash though. I guess you’re waiting for Friday too.
I suppose it’s better than that last thread, now that was slim pickings.
Come to think of it Slim Pickens was the guy who went out of a B-52 riding a missile.
May 6th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
HEY MOOSE!
Thanks a lot for that tip.
I’m over here in Europe and the only station I’ve got is ESPNAmerica which is actually ESPNEurope/Middle East.
May 6th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
ok …sometimes this is on all day
May 6th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Derrick Brooks played very well in a single system his entire career where he knew his responsibilies and teammates perfectly. Changing venues, co-workers and systems at the end of his career does not have success written all over it.
I say let the young uns sort it out at LB under the Marchall Plan.
May 6th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
EnglandRaider,
“yaaaaahoo!”
…and we’ll meet again some sunny day.
gotta love Strangelove.
May 6th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
The reason Morrison was moved to MLB after playing all his life as SLB was because we cut Clark who was making if I am correct close to 3.5 m a year and we needed to save money for all the new signing (not sure if Randy Moss was traded for that year).
Morrison is a very fast linebacker who was solid SLB and is better positioned as he can sack the QB and intercept the passes.
To make it short, I don’t have a problem with Morr and How but we need a big strong Veteran LB who can play either MLB or SLB and mentor our young LBs, otherwise how would we improve our defense?
May 6th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
“Satele, a two-year starter, was acquired for a fourth-round pick and a swap of sixth-round choices from Miami”
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Ya got that one backwards, hoss. They swapped 4ths, with Oakland giving the 6th rounder.
May 6th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Major T. J. “King” Kong is one of my alltime fave movie characters.
http://collectingtokens.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/slim-pickens_riding-the-bomb.jpg
May 6th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
we have been looking for an OLB for the last few years.if Morrison was the answer,why wasn’t he moved/left outside and then we could have found a new MLB.it seems the coaching staff thinks he is better suited to playing the middle.but what do they know.
May 6th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
#107
i was hoping we would of grabbed Maualuga,especially when he fell into the 2nd round, but seems we dont even pay 2nd round money at the LB position anymore…..hope these blue -collar guys work out
May 6th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Going over the posts, people keep asking who’s going to block.
The answer is a lot of the same players who blocked in the last three games of last year when we looked better than we had in some time. It seems to me they broke Bush free a few times in the Tampa Bay game. In the last two games we only had five penalties. At the end of the year, Cable very much wanted to keep the team he had.
We lost Grove it’s true and Cable really wanted to keep him but picking up Satele gives us a better center for Cable’s ZBS. This is an improvement, the guy’s 23 and Cross is prone to injury and is heading for 30 and over the hill.
Although it’s hard to be over the hill when you’ve never reached the top of the hill in the first place.
We also picked up Barnes who I see as a slightly better upgrade. I wouldn’t be suprised though if Mario gets that LT spot and Barnes plays right.
On top of that we picked up Myers. This guy is a great blocking tight end. We needed him all last year to free up Miller.
We’re looking better than we have in a long time.
May 6th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
I would start Hayward Bey as my main WR and Higgins as the second WR and Schillens as the third WR along with DMAC, Miller, oneal, Russel. I would cut Sand and Walker better have players we can find out with they going to do than these busts.
May 6th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Lonetree:
Yahooooooo!
Sellars was great in that movie what with that arm of his. LOl
May 6th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
4eva says:
Henderson has the same mentality as Shell. If we’re talking about the player and not the coach then I hope you’re right. Works for me. Run left: Shell/Upshaw.
May 6th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
“Barnes (6-foot-5, 325 pounds) missed a start because he was late for a meeting, allowed 9.5 sacks and was penalty prone in Jacksonville. The Jaguars made no effort to sign him and happy snapped up Monroe when the Virginia lineman fell to No. 8.”
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Makes you wonder.
May 6th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
The Jaguars were a mess last year, a bunch of diva’s at WR, lost a ton of close games, beat the Colts than lose to the Browns and Bengals in back-to-back weeks.
Who would have thought that the Oakland Raiders might be the calm hand that Barnes needed to get back on-track?
May 6th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
SaintKaufman says:
Satan
Al Quaeda
Taliban
Bret Favre
Just go away.
LOL
R8Paver wants to add Nancy Pelosei! LMFAO
Where does she get those eyes?!
May 6th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
so does Monroe falling to 8.bad knees?
May 6th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Vegas Raider Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
The Jaguars were a mess last year, a bunch of diva’s at WR, lost a ton of close games, beat the Colts than lose to the Browns and Bengals in back-to-back weeks.
Who would have thought that the Oakland Raiders might be the calm hand that Barnes needed to get back on-track?
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Kool-aid talk.
May 6th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Karma states that we’re due a camp pickup to replace Moses.
So the official “Vaya Con Dios” watch starts today…
Andrew Walter
Michael Huff
Justin Fargas
Javon Walker
Arman Shields
May 6th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Don’t be mad when I’m right KoolKell. Barnes will be better this year than he was last year.
May 6th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Lefty12 Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
so does Monroe falling to 8.bad knees?
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No, Al Davis.
May 6th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Oakglenn Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Morrison is NOT fast enough to play outside. Don’t you guys remember the lst game of the season last year when Cutler hit his TE down the seam for a 40 yard gain and Morrison was in coverage trailing the play by five yards?? And that TE wasn’t fast. Plus most people in the league think Morrison has really improved the last few years. You have invested YEARS in this guy. Now you want to change?? What kind of message does that send to the player and the team??
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Morrison should’ve have help over the top.
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Actually on that play both outside receivers were doubled. You can’t double everyone. That’s the way their play is designed. Our guys bit, that left the MLB singled with a TE down the seam. A total mismatch. The play went for forty yards down to our 10 yard line. And some of you want him guarding even faster RB’s on the outside??? Come on.
May 6th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
TrueRaider wants it to be HB/JLH/Chaz.
I suspect that it’s going to be Walker, Chaz and DLH given that Walker is the veteran.
Although personally I would like Chaz, JLH and HB.
Chaz and JLH were impressive in the last three games and both Al and Cable keep talking about them.
Walker would rather be in Vegas throwing booze at the crowd.
Hell, I’d rather be in Vegas but I think I’d rather drink the booze.
May 6th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
is it me or is jerry taking this “cadillac” thing to far…….cuz he murdered it on the comcast sports net thing before the draft. move on jerry
May 6th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
KK-before the draft all the experts(HA-HA) had Monroe as the top tackle.so even with Davis passing,so did 6 others,meaning his stock dropped.makes you wonder why!
May 6th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
And some of you want him guarding even faster RB’s on the outside??? Come on.
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Good call brother…
May 6th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
All the experts had Jason Smith as the top Tackle.
May 6th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
JLH and Chaz will start week 1, with DHB as the 3rd WR and the plans for him to be starting soon, probably replacing Chaz.
Walker is toast, his heart isn’t in it enough to go through training camp and fight for not only playing time but a roster spot. We don’t even know if he is healthy enough to go through camp, seems to be a likely candidate for a buyout or injury settlement.
May 6th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
So the official “Vaya Con Dios” watch starts today…
Come on tooz.. no love for
Arman Shields…Great upside havent seen much of this kid!!
Michael Huff…Hard to play out of postion for a dipsh*^*%t RR…Not to be confused with our own Double R!!!!
Justin Fargas..Whens the last time all our running backs were healthy all at once….Wait Forgot about rankin well either way….we need Three good backs..
Right??
May 6th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Bo:
Post 107
LOL
Now that’s a way to go.
May 6th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
DHB is very very raw. I would be very surprised if he makes any kind of impact the lst half of the season at all. I think James Lofton actually got taken away from the receiving corp but not let go entirely. Maybe he can be DHB’s private tutor like he was with Shilens and Shields last year. By the end of the year last year, Shilens looked pretty damn good.
May 6th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
KK.many said Smith had the most upside due to the fact he’d only moved tackle recently,but most if not all had Monroe rated higher.
May 6th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
You need three good backs in this league. And how many times did we all watch Jamarcus get killed while either Michael Bush or Dmac were in there trying to figure out who to block. One tenth of a second later…..too late. Oooops. Both those guys will be better this year, we need them to be.
May 6th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
The reason I believe Heyward bey should start is simply because he is our best WR and highest paid WR. Last year, you couldn’t tell the Lions not to start the beast Calvin Johnson. Same way, we can’t just start others over Heyward bey as we picked him early. He will need to contribute right away.
Personally, I think he is not ready yet especially the wobbly hands scares me that he will be bust. His numbers were mediocre in the college comparing to others.
There is no time to say if, it is time we go on board with HB and see him stretch the field for Russel and DMAC as other receivers can’t do that.
May 6th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Lefty12 Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
KK.many said Smith had the most upside due to the fact he’d only moved tackle recently,but most if not all had Monroe rated higher.
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Not my understanding. Anybody?
May 6th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Moot at this point. Will Monroe be better than Khalif Barnes is the issue.
Barnes gave up 9.5 sacks last year!!!!! Brilliant.
May 6th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
“Barnes (6-foot-5, 325 pounds) missed a start because he was late for a meeting, allowed 9.5 sacks and was penalty prone in Jacksonville. The Jaguars made no effort to sign him and happy snapped up Monroe when the Virginia lineman fell to No. 8.”
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Really, does this make sense?
May 6th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
JERRY,
Don’t you think the moderater is kind of going over the top here?
May 6th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
KK,i just went back and checked about 6 different sites.i stand corrected.5 of the 6 had Smith rated slightly higher than Monroe.a week earlier it was reversed.a week before that it was different.
actually shouldn’t the question be will Monroe be better than Henderson(that is if Henderson wins the LT spot)?
May 6th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Barnes was in over-his-head as a LT in a division with great rushing ends and with a QB that holds onto the ball too long. A move to RT should help him immensely.
Not too worried about what Jacksonville did with him. Surely they are not the model franchise, didn’t they give Jerry Porter a million dollars per-catch for last season?
May 6th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Not too worried about what Jacksonville did with him. Surely they are not the model franchise, didn’t they give Jerry Porter a million dollars per-catch for last season?”
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Oh yeah, like the Raiders are the “model franchise” More Kool-aid talk.
May 6th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Oakglenn says you need three good backs in this league. True.
And we’ve got ‘em: McFadden, Bush, and Fargas. We should keep all three and not trade Fargas.
We are in an enviable position. In Kiffin’s first year slow-motion Jordan was the starting back. Now some are arguing about whether Rankin should replace Fargas.
We haven’t looked this good at that position in a long time.
May 6th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Not too worried about what Jacksonville did with him. Surely they are not the model franchise, didn’t they give Jerry Porter a million dollars per-catch for last season?”
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Oh yeah, like the Raiders are the “model franchise” More Kool-aid talk.
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More KoolKell talk.
Never said we were the model franchise my friend, just not basing how a FA will perform based on how the Jaguars assess him. They have been about as awful as us in FA lately.
May 6th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
KK,i’m not one that likes to go back and say we could have taken this guy or that guy.i WAS for drafting a Olineman in the 1st.the team(Davis to you) thought we needed a WR more.we shall see.all i can do is hope for the best.wouldn’t it be nice if Bey turned out to be a better pro than Monroe.
May 6th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Lefty
Yeah, will Monroe be better than Henderson is a legit question as well. I actually think Barnes was signed to go to the Right side. It makes absolutely no sense otherwise.
May 6th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
man there we go Roy williams SS signed with the bengals, he could have moved to SLB for us
May 6th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
“wouldn’t it be nice if Bey turned out to be a better pro than Monroe.”
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I guess that get’s right down to it.
May 6th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
just got done reading the nfl.com chat with former raider rod woodson he said “But I believe the best corner in the game is Nnamdi Asomugha. ” damn straight!
May 6th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
man there we go Roy williams SS signed with the bengals
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YES!
glad the Raiders weren’t interested …
May 6th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Roy Williams is a talent and can play SLB, his weakness is coverage but he is solid runner stopper, if we signed him cheap we could have used him in some situations
May 6th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
why didn’t his former team move him to LB?
May 6th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Although, I’d bet Monroe starts right away for the Jags. We’ll have to come back to this topic next year.
May 6th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
sorry True,that was too easy.
i’m out,later guys and gals.
May 6th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
What’s up nation!
May 6th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Although, I’d bet Monroe starts right away for the Jags. We’ll have to come back to this topic next year.
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You think he starts at LT or RT? LT would be quite the obstacle for a rook to handle.
May 6th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
I know the Rams will start J Smith at RT.
May 6th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
“You think he starts at LT or RT? LT would be quite the obstacle for a rook to handle.”
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He starts at LT, that’s why they drafted him, to replace Khalif Barnes.
May 6th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Most of those Cadillacs start.
May 6th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
He should be at LT by the end of the year, just don’t see throwing him to the wolves at LT week 1. However, if he is a stud, they might just throw him out there starting week 1 and leave him there for 10 years.
May 6th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Maybe I’m wrong, but most of those Cadillac LT’s start Wk 1.
May 6th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
VegasRaider, what are you putting on the Raiders to win it all this year?
May 6th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Guys, if Russel struggles and loses first three games, should we call for Garcia to replace him?
May 6th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Again with this nonsense?
May 6th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
CaliRaider..
R. Woodson said “BUT, I do believe Nnamdi is the best cb”. I wonder what he said before “but”?
May 6th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
The Raiders move players around too much as it is. Kirk Morrison is the Middle Linebacker. He played at a near elite level two yrs ago.
You can’t really evaluate the Raider linebacking corps until the Defensive Line shows that it can play at an NFL level consistently.
Morrison is NOT the biggest problem with this defense. Its that shoddy D-Line that has embarrassed the Raiders for the last 6 years of poor play.
If the D-Line gets the benefit of new coaching…then I guess the same courtesy will be extended to the LBs
Again…here’s the same ole tired Ray Lewis quote. If it applies to a future HOF Linebacker…it applies to Kirk Morrison or any linebacker
April 20, 2006:
Lewis vents his frustration about not having space-eating defensive tackles in front of him that would allow him to roam free. “The issue is: Are you going to let me do what I do?” he asked. “And if not, let me go.” Nine days later, the Ravens draft 340-pound defensive tackle Haloti Ngata.
May 6th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
What nonsense? I’m just asking you a question, Vegas Raider. You said you gamble. You said you pick winners. Just wanted to know what you’re putting on the Raiders this year, as advice. Sheesh. Defensive today, or what?
May 6th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
If Russell picks up, where he left off, we’ll be just fine.
May 6th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Oakglenn, you here?
May 6th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
I personally think Russel should play the full year so that we can evaluate him and know if he is legit, as far as Garcia he can continue holding the board. If Russel struggles until Week 12 maybe we allow Walter or whomever we have as our third QB.
May 6th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Again, I won’t be putting anything on them to win it all. If I can find a “win the division” prop, I might humor myself with that.
If you want advice you should have listened to me last week when I said Manny would knock out Hatton.
May 6th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Vegas, my grandmother knew Manny would knock out Hatton. Everyone knew. But it’s cool. I still believe you pick winners. And since you believe the Raiders have no chance of winning it all this year, pretty much, I’m going with your advice and avoiding putting anything on the Raiders to win it all. Thank you.
May 6th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Garcia starting is our only chance at being a playoff team this year. As far as Russell’s development goes? He’s a bust anyway, so who cares?
May 6th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
TrueRaider Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Guys, if Russel struggles and loses first three games, should we call for Garcia to replace him?
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Jeff Garcia is a waste of time. He couldn’t get the Bucs to the playoffs and is old. No one else wanted him as a QB. These washed up veterans are the reason why some teams never excel. If Garcia was a good QB the Vikings or 49ers would have gave him a starting job.
The biggest weakness of Raider fans is insistence on looking for the recreation of Jim Plunkett. Aint’ happening anymore. And don’t give me the Kurt Warner example. For every Kurt Warner you have a slew of Aaron Brooks, Jon Kitna’s, Wade Wilson’s etc…and the Titans are deluding themselves with KFC. They have no passing game down there.
You stick with Russell through this year and next. YOU CANNOT CONSISTENTLY WIN IN THE NFL WITHOUT A FRANCHISE QB. Developing them is hard. It required good coaching, good talent, patience and a little bit of luck.
May 6th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Where you’ve been MR? Is post registration life a little boring for you in here? I figured you would have been ridiculing anything and everything Al Davis after the draft. You were conspicuously absent.
May 6th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
All eyes seem to be on Russell, Morrison etc…my eyes are on Gerard Warren, Terdell Sands, Tommy Kelly, Derrick Burgess and Jay Richardson…I actually like Trevor Scott….
That D-Line has done NOTHING to show it can be elite to this point. This D-Line is either injured or out of shape.
That’s the unit that really needs to step it up!
May 6th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Vegas Raider, I don’t know what’s wrong with you today. You’re really defensive. It must be because you know Al blew another draft.
May 6th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
If someone was taking bets as to the Raiders winning the division, Vegas Raider, what would you put on it?
May 6th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
# TrueRaider Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Guys, if Russel struggles and loses first three games, should we call for Garcia to replace him?
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No. I would give him at least six games before even thingking about it. Give him time to finally develope with some better WRs than last year. This is the year JR proves he either wants to a franchise QB or just an average one. But seriously, I don’t think he’s going to struggle. I’m more worried about our D than our O.
We’re basically saying the only thing wrong with our D was RR.
May 6th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
If someone was taking bets as to the Raiders winning the division, Vegas Raider, what would you put on it?
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Not much and certainly wouldn’t take anything that wasn’t paying close to 10-1.
Tough to find division odds, you might need to go off-shore for that. Today they put forth legislation to allow internet gambling, so I might have some luck there soon. Never would have thought I would be happy with something Barney Frank would do!!
May 6th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
We’re speaking hypothetically, of course. I’m just wondering what you would put on it. So cool your jets on gambling’s legality and your political views. It’s not that kind of discussion. BTW, You don’t even think the Raiders can win the division?
May 6th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
SnB, bro Franchise QB need to be leaders in the huddle and in their preparation. It requires passion for the game. A good example is what Sanchez showed his coaches after the draft and still not signed, collected all the rookies and established 8 plays to work on.
Russel was out shape first year, mediocre except the last three games and his coach called him out in the offseason. This tells me he either still doesn’t get it or needs a mentor like Garcia to teach what it takes to be a Franchise QB. This is his third year and if he doesn’t show up, he needs to be benched.
May 6th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Donkeys seems to want Levi Jones as back up for Clady, hope we can show interest so that they raise their price to get him.
May 6th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Vegas,
Wow!! Let it go bro, think of your blood pressure!! lol
May 6th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
I do think we can win the division, and don’t think any of our division opponents really improved this off-season. However, I think it is a much more likely scenario that we improve quite a bit, compete in almost every-game, but still lose a few heart-breakers and end up 6-10.
May 6th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Raider O Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Vegas,
Wow!! Let it go bro, think of your blood pressure!! lol
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I get a little cranky this time of the day, not quite 4:20 yet and time crawls, if you catch my drift.
May 6th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
“Redneck O”
LMAO
May 6th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
It’s not 4:20 now!!!! lol
May 6th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
First time poster. Been reading the chats regarding our RBs and my thought is that our best players have to be on the field all the time. Help me out on this because I’ve never coached, but can’t we scheme to have Bush and DMC on the field at the same time? I recently watched SB XI and Van Eeghen and C Davis got roughly equal carries out of two back sets – an early version of thunder and lightning. I then watched SB XVIII and Marcus is split out wide quite a bit. Can we use these schemes?
By the way, all 3 SB victories are available in their entirety for rent on Blockbuster online (and probably netflix too). It was cool to see the whole game, not just highlights.
May 6th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Sorry, but I’m a Redneck!!!
LMAO
May 6th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
I’m a cute Redneck with low IQ!!!
Still LMAO
May 6th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
I am calling B.S TrueRaider.
First of all, Russell had a hold out that was Al Davis’ fault….I say that because any QB drafted with the 1st overall is going to get money. Not saying its right or wrong…just that it is….He missed his first training camp….that made the 1st year a TOTAL wash.
Second…The Raiders had Kwame Harris, Ronald Curry, Ashley Lelie, Javon Walker and Cornell Green as his support. How bad were these guys? Well, Harris and Lelie have yet to find another job. Cornell Green is destined to 2nd or 3rd string at best…being replaced by someone elses 2nd stringer…Javon Walker got beat down in Vegas and then tried to retire and missed half of camp (remember…he rarely practiced more than once a day during two-a-days…….And Ronald Curry is now the 3rd or 4th receiver for the 0-16 Detroit Lions
Now….coaching is also HUGELY IMPORTANT for a young QB…Who was Russell’s coaches? Hmmmm.
2 – Head Coaches
3 – Offensive Playcallers..soon to be four with Tollner
2 – QB Coaches
ALL OF THIS IN TWO SHORT YEARS!
When you give the kid a some talent on the field and consistency in coaching….he finishes up looking pretty good.
And at the end of all this…he still had a 78 QB Rating…THrew only 3 fewer TDs than the wunderkind in Atlanta and only had 8 INTs.
Look up his stats overall….He wasn’t the worst QB in the league…Take a look at the other QBs…His overall performance was on par with guys like Kyle Orton, Joe Flacco and Kerry Collins…Look at the TDS to INTs for the following QBs….
Roethlisberger 17 15
Matt Ryan 16 11
Jake Delhomme 15 12
David Garrard 15 13
Matt Schaub 15 10
Joe Flacco 14 12
Jason Campbell 13 6
Shaun Hill 13 8
JAMARCUS RUSSELL13 8
Kerry Collins 12 7
Gus Frerotte 12 15
Jeff Garcia 12 6
Marc Bulger 11 13
Trent Edwards 11 10
Seneca Wallace 11 3
May 6th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Now we have Vegas and Nevada! lol
May 6th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Janikowski would be a sure 1st ballot HOFer if he was drafted by a turf team. I think he does really good considering that he is kickin off of a frickin dirt half the time.
May 6th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
They could get so creative with Bush and D-Mac, and I hope Cable has the tools to do it. D-Mac can split wide as a WR or work the Wildcat, Bush has great hands and can throw the ball better than most RB’s. Not that you want to run a bunch of trick-plays, but besides the obvious we can put things in DC heads to always be aware of.
May 6th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
I’m a northern NV guy, in the Carson Valley near Reno and South Lake, but didn’t mean to bite your name Vegas. go raiders
May 6th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
No worries man, Raider On!!
May 6th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Can us fans go watch them practice? I mean we got the address and time of practice.
May 6th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Nevada,
I was just welcoming you sir. I didn’t mean anything else!
May 6th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Especially with no true quality FB right now, and even if ONeal gets healthy, we gotta go with sets that get DMC and Bush on the field together, not one or the other. Fargas should be a strong backup. Cable, get our best playmakers on the field!
May 6th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Bush needs to be the starting running back and carry the load. We need to find was to get McF into space (split backs, motion, wildcat, splitwide), and let him do his thing. Fargas should only be there to spell them. Do these things and we should have a top notch rushing attack.
May 6th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
If both Bush and D-Mac were on the field, neither one of them would be doing much lead-blocking, so it would be strictly to try to setup mismatches and misdirection and exploit them.
May 6th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Raider O, it’s all good.
Tulare31, just guessing that the minicamps are closed to the public, just like training camp is.
By the way, I was able to attend a day of training camp last year because I know a guy who interns with the Raiders. The worst thing I saw all day was Tommy Kelly taking a punishment lap for jumping offsides. He was supposed to be running, but what I saw was a 400 lb guy walking and slowly pumping his arms at the same time. All the way around the field. No effort whatsoever. Absolutely pathetic. Now I know he was coming off knee surgery and I guess it’s a catch 22 – can’t get in shape cuz of the knee, but always injured / tired in games, because he’s never in shape? Hopefully our new DC will get on their azzes, instead of trying to be their best buds like Rob Ryan was always doing.
May 6th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
I’m out but will check back later. Gotta take the kid to tball baby! Thanks for the chat and go raiders.
May 6th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Later Nevada.
May 6th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
SnB you don’t have to say I am B.S. Every man is entitled to his own opinion.
As far as Russel numbers and the talent around him, I have to agree with you, yet, his coach calling him out is a sign of lack of leadership.
My point is that until now, I don’t see the “IT” factor that every gr8 QB has…. Russel has to show he has the IT factor.
A reminder Michael Vick on his last year put huge numbers rushing over 1000 yds and 20 TD and 8 ints, still people said he wasn’t a franchise QB.
You can’t say Russel is a leader who commands respect in the huddle. That is what I said earlier.
May 6th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
LMAO,
Mod, you are killing me!!!
LMAO
May 6th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
That didn’t stay on long. LMFAO
May 6th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
TrueRaider,
Wasn’t calling you B.S…sorry it came across that way…I was referring to the statement
Sure…stats aren’t everything. But it just seems that everyone is waiting for Russell to fail. He’s got to get better…but so does every young player.
I simply point out that young QBs are not developed overnight. And Russell has received the LEAST support around him of any 1st pick overall I have ever seen.
Kiffin was telling everyone how hard Russell was working last year. Perhaps Kiffin and DeFillipo were the ones not in the building every day. Perhaps they were the ones busy fighting it out with Davis to take the time to develop the Quarterback.
Cable is simply doing his job telling Russell more is expected of him. I don’t see that as an indictment of any sorts. Tony Romo is being told he needs to step it up, Trent Edwards is under some subtle pressure too. Russell is no different.
Just don’t be quick to anticpate the demise of this kid.
As for Michael Vick…he was the guy until he did himself in. Took his team to an NFC Championship game on his back. He had a developing Roddy White and no running game…Vick was a decent QB who had production. He would still be the starter had it not been for his issues.
BTW, if Jeff Garcia is the starter for any extended period of time….the season is over
May 6th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
SnB I definitely agree with you. Russel needs time to develop but my question is do you think he is hungry? does he have the IT factor? Can he lead by example? Is he motivated to be the best of the best? All these questions leads me to say no I haven’t seen all that.
I also believe you don’t need that IT factor in a QB to win in the NFL. Dilfer has a ring because of his defense, Kerry Collins went to the superbowl just like Delhomme and Hasselback, yet, I think Russel needs to be a leader in a team that lacks leadership players.
Thanks for clarifying the issue.
May 6th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf-uyXTKKAo
Great words by a coach and former NFL player about DHB.
May 6th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
#208 is still there. WOW
May 6th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
The thing I like about our offense is the huddle. Its nice to have high character guys with skill on offense because they will support each other instead of putting each other down. Jamarcus Russell could mess up a pass and DHB, McFadden and Miller would all tell him its ok and we’ll get it next time while Crabtree probably would have jumped all over him and said…”What the fuk JR? Didn’t you see me? I was wide open.” I wanted Crabtree on this team but I see the value with DHB and it makes perfect sense. If you’re going to draft a guy with JR’s skill set, you need another guy to match him otherwise the big arm is useless.
Even Walker is good for JR because when they score, he can just pull out the champagne and spray everyone with it in celebration. I’m calling him out for that endzone dance.
May 6th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Exla – Post #208. Haha.
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May 6th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
tulare31 Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Can us fans go watch them practice? I mean we got the address and time of practice.
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Al would probably see this as `mutiny`…..we could kidnap John Bowie and see if Al would cut him or pay up
May 6th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Al would cut Bowie if we kidnapped Bowie. Al is a cheap basterd haha.
May 6th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
TrueRaider,
I think Russell has demonstrated leadership. I don’t think he’s a rah, rah emotion guy. But from little snippets I’ve picked up….
1. He did give Henderson a lot assurance…he told him to just play and not worry about him being hit.
“I had the whole team behind me,” Henderson said. “That gave me a lot of confidence.”
Quarterback JaMarcus Russell said he gave Henderson a pep talk before the game.
“I just told him, ‘No matter what happens, I’m going to be all right. If I get hit or whatever, just keep on going to the next play,’ ” Russell said. (Sunday), I didn’t get touched at all, probably twice I got hit on the ground, no sacks. I told him he did a great job.”
To me that’s leadership
After throwing an INT and being down by 10…Russell gets in the huddle and tells his team to “Chill, We got this”…unorthodox..maybe..but he took command of the huddle and the team won the game.
He also went to Cable to lobby that McFadden get more playing time. That sounds like the actions of a guy that knows his team and wants to win.
I never heard of Russell calling out his teammates in public or assigning blame for the teams poor play.
I think this guy has everything the Raiders need in a QB.
As for having desire and all that….I don’t think anyone can really know outside of the organization. The Raiders shield its players from the media and Russell is not much for talking with the media unless he has too. I think the Cable comments were motivation not a negative indictment on the guy.
May 6th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
SnB,
excellent post 215.
May 6th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
I don’t care if my QB is a media darling. I don’t care if he’s vocal. What I care about is whether or not his teammates respect him and follow him.
I think JaMrcus has the respect of his teammates, and I think he is a leader as well. He’s not being paid to impress the media with his charismatic presence.
May 6th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
The fullback of the future is Frank Summers. Damn the Ironworkers for snagging him. Lorenzo Neal has been the best for a long many years even if he never caught a pass. Oren, cool by me if he ever recovers from the knee. Pittman, could be, people here have mentioned a neck injury for him last year, but lest you forget, Lorenzo was nearly paralyzed from the same a couple of years ago.
May 6th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
exactly teach leinart is great with the media but thats not what matters quaterbacks are paid to play on the field everybody is not payton manning
May 6th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Edward Teach,
JRuss may not have much to say to us’ns or media types, but it does seem that he has the ear of his fellows on the field. Take that every time.
May 6th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
16yearoldfan,
how did you get so savvy in your short span of years? I enjoy reading your posts. Thanks.
May 6th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
SnB
Good post.
May 6th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
The best thing to happen to Jruss is the Jets drafting Sanchez. That should keep the national media (and ESPN) busy for most of the season, and with Oakland all the way out on the West Coast they can forget about us for awhile.
Now all we need is Favre to sign with the Vikings.
May 6th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
i dont know i guess im just smart lol
May 6th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Here’s what I don’t understand. What did everyone expect from Russell last year? A Pro-Bowl caliber season? The guy was in his 1st season as a starter. Everyone forgets that.
Here’s what I think. Raider fans as a whole have no idea what it means to develop a young QB. Why? Because the Raiders have never done it. The Raiders relied on free-agents or trades because historically the Raiders didn’t have the patience to develop a QB. Now that there are growing pains…a lot of them panic.
The National Media believes Russell to be a bust because he’s on the Raiders. The media wants to see him bust so they can talk about Al Davis again.
Russell is the youngest starting QB in the league who played his 1st complete season. Some QBs like Romo, Rivers, Eli Manning, McNabb Aaron Rogers…don’t get meaningfull playing time at all their 1st two years. Again, what was everyone expecting in Russells first 17 starts.
Most pundits don’t even watch the games. The Raiders lost quite a few games this year because of bad playcalling (K.C) or 4th QTR defensive collapses (S.D, Buffalo, Miami). Sure, Russell had his share in some of the losses…but overall this Raider team was in more games than not. That’s what is so frustrating with watching these guys play……anyway..had the Raiders went out and won thsoe three or four games…no one would be talking about Russell as bust…in fact he would be in the conversation with Flacco and Ryan…..
Russell is not the problem with this team
May 6th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Bret Lorenzo Favre seems destined to be a Viking. He just doesn’t know when to give it up. I’ll admit that hanging out on a farm in Mississippi is probably not the foremost thrill in life, but, ya know what, there are plenty of other things to do in life than to sling footballs over a carpet in a dome in Minneapolis or mow the back forty in Dixie. Guess the boy is a limited individual.
May 6th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
i think most of the problems were due to bad play calling and bad personnel decisions not to mention the penalties if kwame wasnt in there getting false starts every other play we might have done better but not much because the play calling was horrible
May 6th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
One thing i hope for is J-russ and DHB become friends not just on the field but off also IMO we need them to gel as fast as possible
May 6th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
SnB… you are on a roll today, my friend. Nice job.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
I can’t remember a time when the Raiders had this much young talent on offense.
Russell, McFadden, Bush, Miller, Schilens, Higgins and now DHB.
It’s been awhile, but this year it’s really going to be fun to watch the Raiders.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
16: IMO Cable was learning just as mush as the rest of the team..up to week 4 he was the line coach week 6 he becomes the head coach …thats called learning on the fly and by week 17 you can see how much both he and Jamarcus grew
May 6th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
LOL..mush=much or what ever
May 6th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
yea i understand i just hope the play calling gets better and i know cable was learning and i just remembered he didnt start calling the plays for a few weeks because greg knapp was still calling them and i hope tollner helps
May 6th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Teach,
To me its about a philosophy when it comes to Russell. Do you develop a young QB that can play at a high level for your franchise for 10 to 12 years…or do you become a constant revolving door for free agent hacks looking for a last chance.
You look at the decent to great QBs in the league now. Brady, Manning, Palmer, Rivers, Cutler, McNabb, Rogers, Romo, Schaub, Hassellback….none of those guys, except Manning, came out and were “winners” in their first couple of years. Except Manning, all of those guys sat the bench. Most of those guys sat the bench 2 to 3 years or more.
My favorite draft pick was Russell so far this decade. It stopped the practice of bringing in guys like McCown, Culpepper, Brooks, Collins, Gannon, George, Wilson, Hostetler, Schroeder to try and regain greatness…only to have them flame out in 2 or 3 years. Can’t win that way…..
How many playoff losses do teams like the Colts, Eagles, Giants, Patriots and Steelers have? Several..and that’s the point…you have to take a few cuts at the plate if you expect to win a Super Bowl. You need to be competitive for 10 years at a time.
The Raiders have always tried to hit a home run. That’s what the Gruden years were. Two or three years run and then bust….Why??? Because Gannon was old and the team fell apart afterwards with no QB.
Watch what happens to Arizona after next year when Warner retires. WHat’s the Titans going to do? The Bears JUMPED at the chance to nab Cutler…..The Vikings are trying to get a 40 yr old QB to play when they should just stick with T.Jackson or draft another QB.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Twocents Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
I can’t remember a time when the Raiders had this much young talent on offense.
Russell, McFadden, Bush, Miller, Schilens, Higgins and now DHB.
It’s been awhile, but this year it’s really going to be fun to watch the Raiders.
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I can’t remember Schilens being a “talent”. He had a “few” good moments, but that was about it. Setting your expectations low. Schilens is a scrub, and would barely be practice squad fodder on other teams.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
einstein it seems like those few good moments coincide with the few times hes been on the field
May 6th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
It may “seem” that way 16
May 6th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
And Hackett
May 6th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
yeah but you’ll never know until he gets extensive playing time
May 6th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Post #215 job well done SnB.
Jamarcus has a laid-back poise to him on the field, and he was starting to show it at the end of last year. Guys were selling out for him. He didn’t do anything last year to make you think he wasn’t going to do anything but improve with each week.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
he had his chances 16. He deserves some more indeed, but I don’t think he is or will be a superstar.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Einstein,
I will defer to your high IQ for now, but will accept your apology (on behalf of Schilens) anytime next season.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
maybe so Twocents. I would happily apologize, but I don’t think I will need to my brother.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Our expectations of Raider WR’s has been extremely low since the last days of Tim Brown. The Raiders have a long history of excellent receivers. We need to keep our expectations high and expect greatness at that position.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
16yearsold16yearfan Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
i think most of the problems were due to bad play calling and bad personnel decisions not to mention the penalties if kwame wasnt in there getting false starts every other play we might have done better but not much because the play calling was horrible
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Yeah it was penalties and playcalling. Here a couple of critical ones that stand out in my mind:
2-3-SD 3 (12:10) 2-J.Russell sacked at SD 8 for -5 yards (95-S.Phillips). ~2nd & 3 at the 3 and you don’t run it up the gut
4-1-SD 1 (5:35) 29-M.Bush left tackle for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN NULLIFIED by Penalty. PENALTY on OAK-74-C.Green, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at SD 1 – No Play. ~next play missed FG
1-5-MIA 5 (3:28) 25-J.Fargas left guard to MIA 4 for 1 yard (51-A.Ayodele).
2-4-MIA 4 (2:56) PENALTY on OAK-77-K.Harris, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at MIA 4 – No Play.
2-9-MIA 9 (2:30) 20-D.McFadden sacked at MIA 14 for -5 yards (98-M.Roth).
Two-Minute Warning
3-14-MIA 14 (2:00) (Shotgun) PENALTY on OAK-77-K.Harris, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at MIA 14 – No Play.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
i didnt say he would be a superstar but if you look at the stats when he started he will be at least average and you need average guys on your team so they can help when the stars are being watched and doubled teamed
May 6th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
I disagree 16. average guys should play special teams. You need great players to push great players to make each other better.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
exactly SnB we would get penalties and it would be 1st and 20 we would run for a small gain throw for a medium gain or incomplete pass then run on 3rd and 9 like we werent trying to get 1st downs
May 6th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
I’m not dissing Schilens, I am just saying he didn’t have a “stellar” season last year that would warrant him an automatic starter. If that was the case, then why draft two wide outs in the draft? Our receivers are terrible as a core, and that includes Schillens. Higgins gets a pass because he was outstanding on special teams.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Einstein,
Its hard to get a beat on the WRs because the Raiders wasted 3/4’s of the year with Lelie, Walker and Curry.
Lelie hasn’t found another job in WR starved leage
Curry is the 3rd or 4th receiver for the 0-16 Lions
Walker was beaten, robbed and tried to retire….
Higgins and Schilens only started a handful of games…They say they only had 22 and 15 catches respectively…but what if they played a full 16 games?
Anyhow, training camp will sort it all out at the end of the day. “The D-HB”, Schilens, JLH, Murphy and Shields should provide enough competition and going against Asomugha and C.Johnson for a full camp should give the Raiders some more robust play out the WR position this year
May 6th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Most of us wanted the Raider to draft and O-lineman at 7. But we didn’t, we took a receiver, and I just don’t buy the fact that “Al Davis loves speed”. Yes, he does, but he picked DHB for a reason. I don’t care what ANYONE says, Al Davis knows more about football, the NFL, and the Raiders than anyone on this blog.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
16yearsold16yearfan Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
exactly SnB we would get penalties and it would be 1st and 20 we would run for a small gain throw for a medium gain or incomplete pass then run on 3rd and 9 like we werent trying to get 1st downs
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What’s worse is that those penalties and playcalls I posted all happened inside the red zone….or in some cases inside the 5 yard line. The Raiders lost those games by close scores.
Also, Buffalo game….get inside the 10 yardline…and run three pass plays in a row….
K.C, fake field goal fiasco results in 7 for the other team AND go for it on 4th down when a field goal will do….lost that game by 7…
You are right…playcalling and penalties…also add personnell…Gotta have DMAC and Bush be the primary carriers and they need to make sure the best talent starts at WR and LT
May 6th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
SnB I don’t think the year was wasted on those receivers. They had the talent level that exceeded Schilens and Higgins at the time. I agree that Schilens made the most of his time and opportunity, but if he was such a “talent” then why wasn’t he in the starting lineup from the start of the season? Curry, Walker, and Lelie are scrubs too. We are “SORRY” at wide reciver. Hopefully DHB has some game.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
i dont know what to say about 247 it makes sense but it seems impossible nobody has great players at every position its impossible unless you are on madden
May 6th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
I think Al is still smarting over the Moss fiasco and won’t sleep until he finds a great receiver.
I hope it’s DHB, then maybe he’ll quit collecting WRs and draft some beef.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
16 it’s not impossible for the “skill” positions, wr, rb, qb. For instance, look at our RB’s, All three are solid, and push each other for playing time, which makes each other better. Look at Michael Bush for instance, we all “thought” he was good, we saw a glimpse of what he could do against the Chiefs, but when he got the start in Tampa he KILLED it. He NAILED it. Thats what great players do, they make a noticeable impact.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
einstein with that reasoning why wasnt harris out of the starting lineup before whenever he was taken out and why didnt bush start over fargas and mostly why didnt c. johnson start over hall
May 6th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Twocents I think Al saw the writing on the wall with Moss, and that he had to get rid of him. I think he is more upset that it didn’t work out rather than they let him go. Moss had to go.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
cable and especially kiffin werent the best decision makers in terms of personnel
May 6th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
The Raiders were awful in the red zone last year. I think D-Mac needs more touches down there, he “smells” the end zone way better than the other two.
The DHB (I like that) and a second TEshould be a help to the red-zone offense as well. We could have won at least one or two extra games last year if we scored TD’s rather than settling for FG attempts.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
16, you are comparing different positions. D line is a rotational situation with players that fit a scheme. They don’t play every down. C. Johnson didn’t start over Hall because Hall was a former pro bowler with a HUGE contract, and the Raiders “thought” he was a superstar. C. Johnson was a 6 year player who floated from team to team and was a no name. However, he made an IMPACT when he got his chance.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Cable and Kiffin, both NFL coaches mind you, arent good at personel decisions? Says who?
May 6th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
im talking about kwame harris aka mr false start and Michael bush starting over fargas
May 6th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
OK guys, this has been fun. But my Dodgers are about to make MLB history by going 13-0 at home, its game time. Later my Raider brothers.
THINK BLUE!! Go Dodgers.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
At camp…maybe those other guys were better…but Davis said he wanted the young players out there earlier…Now was that revisionist thinking? I don’t know. I also think the coaching chaos/changes also led to some bad personnell decisions.
Schilens actually was named the starter after the Jets game. But Schilens couldn’t stay healthy and missed some time.
JLH showed during the last QTR of the season that he can be a reliable target.
May 6th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Dude Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Cable and Kiffin, both NFL coaches mind you, arent good at personel decisions? Says who?
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The jury is out on Cable. He has the opportunity…but he was slow last year to get bad players off the field and it cost the Raiders in a couple of games.
Kiffin was to busy playing games with Al Davis and vice-versa to know how good or bad he was.
May 6th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Einstein,
Remember in the presser when Al complained that Kiffin wanted to get rid of everybody, I think at the time he acquiesced to his new coach, but later held it against poor “Lance”.
May 6th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
Einstein Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
OK guys, this has been fun. But my Dodgers are about to make MLB history by going 13-0 at home, its game time. Later my Raider brothers.
THINK BLUE!! Go Dodgers.
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Go Nationals
May 6th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
SnB… totally agree. Everybody wants the quick fix; the only problem with that is you usually have to “fix the quick fix” again a year or two down the road. JaMarcus wasn’t chosen by the Raiders to lead them to the Super Bowl right away. He was picked because he has the tools to run the type of offense our owner likes, and I’m sure Al was well aware when he drafted JaMarcus that he would need developing.
In my mind it was one of the main problems he (Al) had with Kiffin; he saw Kiffin trying to make a West Coast QB out of him and didn’t like it one bit. That bit of wrangling between owner and coach didn’t help Russell’s growth as an NFL quarterback at all, and I think it’s why there was such an emphasis placed on getting Hackett and Tollner in here this year.
Everyone says this is his make or break year, but what exactly does that mean, and how do you quantify it? If the Raiders score 300 points this year it will be a huge improvement (especially with our schedule), but a lot of other things have to happen that don’t involve JaMarcus if we are going to get anywhere close to the playoffs. The continued development of a very young WR corps, a solid year from the offensive line and an improved defense are as critical to the Raiders’ success as anything JaMarcus will be held accountable for.
May 6th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
i was telling you how the young players were developing you said they werent i showed you the stats and you left
May 6th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
SnB,
Agreed.
May 6th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
and i can go back and show you
May 6th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Your stats are skewed. You only include a certain number of games and make the stats work for your argument. Bush was so great he couldnt even get on the field most games. McFadden while electric at times, didnt consistently produce at a position where rookies produce every year. I cant remember the rest of your nonsense stats but I am pretty sure I can destroy them too.
May 6th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Dude i used the last four games because it shows development cable wouldnt let bush off the bench he was playing lelie curry and walker at the beginning of the year henderson did better than kwame the raiders won 2 of the last 4 games
May 6th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Dude i used the last four games because it shows development cable wouldnt let bush off the bench he was playing lelie curry and walker at the beginning of the year henderson did better than kwame the raiders won 2 of the last 4 games.
May 6th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
dude did you leave again what no answer
May 6th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
did anybody else see that dude leaves when i kill his argument
May 6th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
No need to run him into the ground 16 … It’s pretty clear what goes on on this board.
Damn good points on JRuss SnB.
May 6th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
# Einstein Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
16 it’s not impossible for the “skill” positions, wr, rb, qb. For instance, look at our RB’s, All three are solid, and push each other for playing time, which makes each other better. Look at Michael Bush for instance, we all “thought” he was good, we saw a glimpse of what he could do against the Chiefs, but when he got the start in Tampa he KILLED it. He NAILED it. Thats what great players do, they make a noticeable impact.
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SnB Defense Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
The jury is out on Cable. He has the opportunity…but he was slow last year to get bad players off the field and it cost the Raiders in a couple of games.
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Actually both these statements are slightly inaccurate. The one thing Tom Cable had to do was find out what kind of players he had, and what they could do. When Tom Cable took over, he knew more about the KC defensive line, than he did about his own guys. He put guys out there and watched them perform. If for some reason someone didn’t perform (Kwame Harris, Ron Curry, DeAngelo Hall) those guys sat or were shipped. For whatever reason, (probably the Fullback thing) Michael Bush was in Tom Cables dog house for most of the season. And he did not start the last game. He only came in when Fargas and Dmac “could not go”. Of course, both those players were standing on the sidelines laughing during the course of the entire game, and when Michael was slow to get up late in the game, both of them put their hats back on and were ready to get back in there. Bush remained in the game. And I think he ended up with 177 yards for the day.
May 6th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
You got it backwards; We traded a 6th & swapped 4ths for Satele, not the other way around.
May 6th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Im here and if Bush was that good he wouldnt have been on the bench. Period. Matter of fact if the WRs were that good Lelie, Walker and Curry wouldnt have played at all. JLH and Schillens got garbage time at the end. Kind of like the 12th man on a basketball team who plays the last 2 minutes of a blowout. I dont have a beef with Mario, he played ok when he got the chance. He had to be helped alot though.
Like I said you can skew the stats to fit your argument all you like. No skewing the win/loss record though.
Did you really try and get the rest of the board to gang up on me? LOL!!! You must really be 16.
May 6th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
jhill dude is an idiot he comes in here says something and then when he finds out hes wrong he leaves he said he would “destroy my argument” and didnt post again but tomorrow or the next day hes going to come back all cocky and do it again
May 6th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Weren’t we discussing how Al has built this team through the draft the last few years with guys like JRuss, Bush, McFadden, Gallery, Henderson, DHB, Murphy, JLH, And Schillens? Oren Oneal, Trevor Scott, Nnamdi, Tommy Kellly, Thomas Howard, Tyvon Branch, and all the rookies this year?
Yes, we got old really quick after the run to Tampa, and Al tried a bunch of band aids that didn’t work. Dead on when you say that getting the QB, and developing him along with the pieces around him is what will have us back on top for a long time instead of a 2 year run here or there.
The talent is clearly here. There are ZERO excuses for Cable and his staff of “teachers”! We better not see more of the same vanilla stuff we’ve been seeing the past two years. If we come out I formation to start the season, we are in trouble.
May 6th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Ah yes, the OL and an improved defense, those are the big question for me.
When I’m feeling optimistic, I think the OL will be okay. As mentioned before, just holding down the false starts would be a good start.
But the defense is a complete mystery. I’ll sing praises to Marshall if he can make it decent.
May 6th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
wow it took you 20 minutes to come up with that if cable knew talent kwame harris, deangelo hall, lelie, curry, fargas, and walker would not have started and jlh didnt get garbage time they got stats when they started and so did bush you tried to say we didnt have talent and i showed you development young players get better as the year goes on
May 6th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
You got me kid. Theyre all gonna be all pros, just like all the all pros Al has drafted the last 20 years. LOL!!
May 6th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
i didnt say they would be all pros i said they developed and when that happened we won look at the last 2 games development=wins
May 6th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Has anyone been around long enough to remember Raider head coach Madden saying you build a team starting with the line? Seem to recall him preferring the offensive line first then the defensive line.
Guess Davis doesn’t listen to Madden.
May 6th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Nnamdi best corner in the league Zach Miller 778 yards last year even though he had to block a lot, Howard 96 tckls 6 int in 07 97 tckls last year and explain this JRuss-last 4 games qb rtng=90.6 pct=694 yds=173.5, DMac yds/att=4.4, Bush yds/att=4.4, Henderson no sacks last 4 games, Gallery not a tackle but great guard, Scott led rookies in sacks,and we dont know what our wr can do if they start a full season
May 6th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
WR’s, for the most part are not going to walk into the league and dominate. The highest rookie receiver last year was Eddie Royal of Denver, and even he was about 25th in the league. And that is after he TORCHED DeAngelo Hall for 15 passes in his first game. Take that game away and he was average at best. The thing you want to see out of our guys is improvement. Shilens and Higgins improved and gained confidence as the year progressed. The reason they were not starters early was Walker and Drew Carter were one and two, and got all the first team reps in camp, until both went down. Ron Curry was a team captain. Higgins was 4th and Shilens 5th on the depth chart. Now, hopefully “Jivin” somehow regains his form after a year off, Shields becomes a good player, and the DHB develops into what we all think he can become. Then we would have a decent receiving corp.
May 6th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
exactly oakglenn thats what ive been telling dude
May 6th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
One of the most impressive things about the Raiders winning our last two games and going 3-3 in our last 6, we did it with our 4th and 5th string WR’s, 2nd string LT, 3rd string RB, rookie 4th String DE, 4th string CB, and 4th string FS.
May 6th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
exactly which makes you think maybe those 3rd and 4th string players are better than the starters
May 6th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
i wonder where dude is but anyway im about to watch the laker game so im out
May 6th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
3rd string LT Oak ..
McQuistan was 2nd string, remember?
May 6th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
I actually had McQ as the backup RT. That’s just me tho.
May 6th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Remember when Harris got hurt early in the year? McQuistan played in his spot and immediately got hurt. Or am I remembering that wrong?
May 6th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
# 16yearsold16yearfan Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
exactly which makes you think maybe those 3rd and 4th string players are better than the starters
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16/16 brings up a good point here. Maybe younger, hungrier players are the way to go. Tell that to Tampa Bay and the New York Yankees in MLB.
May 6th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Jhill, I think you got that wrong. McQuistan did come in the very first game of the season, here against Denver, and immediately got into a couple of fist fights with the Denver defensive linemen. I remember him playing guard tho. I might be wrong. Next thing I know, McQ is on the ground grabbing his knee. Scumbags tore him up. That really sucked.
May 6th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Gallery wasnt hurt, Harris was. I don’t recall Gallery being hurt last year at all.
May 6th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
HEYWARD-BEY ON T.V.
Cal at Maryland will be televised tomorrow (5/7) on ESPN Classics…
6PM Pacific Standard Time
May 6th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Evening Nation,
Raider O, Oakglen, 16, Jhill, SnB, and all.
I’ve not taken the time to read all of the posts.
I’d just like to add something from My perspective.
The Raiders have a lot of good young talent that simply needs to play and be developed.
For the 1st time in a long time I can see a genuine nucleaus of players that have the potential to do something special.
We still have warts that have to be removed, but the overall direction and focus is IMO, on an upward progression.
Jamarcus Russell is our QB today, tommorrow, and hopefully for the next 10 yrs.
Anyone that suggests Bust or any other deragatory term at this point is Either very young and impatient, or not understanding of what it takes to LEARN the position.
Our reicievers… Best as I can remember, Belitnekoff, Branch, and Brown, were not Pro Bowlers in the early stages of their careers.
“Dude” talks about Chaz being a scrub.
On what authority? His opinion.
The games I witnessed at the end of the season paint a different picture to Me.
The Raiders clearly have a plan.
I’m willing to see how it developes and plays out over the next season.
I think we may all be pleasantly suprised.
At least those of us who actually want the team to succeed.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
You know!!
They are working on free speach, women rights, etc,,,, and we now have Big Brother, Bush JR, and this Mod!!!!
May 6th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Loved the 215 post. I am convinced that Russel will be better this yr.
Hopefully we can witness greatness with DMAC n Russel. I don’t mind
if HB n MM prove everyone wrong.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Len,
Good evening sir.
I agree, I like this young talent. This is the youngest Raiders team that I can remember.
We have young talent at almost all positions except DT. I would like to add one or two of those in next year’s draft.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
# Raider O Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
You know!!
They are working on free speach, women rights, etc,,,, and we now have Big Brother, Bush JR, and this Mod!!!!
The times, they are a changin
May 6th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
TrueRaider Says:
May 6th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Loved the 215 post. I am convinced that Russel will be better this yr.
Hopefully we can witness greatness with DMAC n Russel. I don’t mind
if HB n MM prove everyone wrong.
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True Raider,
Went back and read SnB’s post.
I agree.
I also am of like mind with what you’ve just said.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Hey Raider O,
Hope all is well.
Yes, D Line. We must remove the warts. lol
May 6th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
I said it before, and I will say it again. The only thing that can Destroy this great Empire is Ignorance!!
Sadly, we have plenty of that!! IMO
May 6th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Scottish Raider…you are kidding with #8, right?
May 6th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Len,
LMAO,
I like it. lol
I’m havng a session now! lol
May 6th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
O im glad it working cause you cant see the names LMAO
May 6th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
LMFAO
Sorry, it’s working!!
LMFO
That’s twice now. lol
May 6th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Just glad i can help….have a great night O see you in the a.m
May 6th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
This new stuff is destroying my brain cells.
I can’t see names, and I think you can only travel east to china!!!
Want some?!
lol
May 6th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Ggod night and Take care R8.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Wow!!
I can’t see names or type, I’m done for the night!!
Good night Nation.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
great post#311 Raiderlen,
Some people come in here to create animosity. Or desparage the players, coaches and organization.
Other than that they have nothing to say.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
great post# 307 Raiderlen
May 7th, 2009 at 3:36 am
Good Morning NATION
May 7th, 2009 at 5:38 am
What’s up fellas .
May 7th, 2009 at 6:00 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, 4EVA, NOMOREFARGAG, WHERE IS L M N ?
May 7th, 2009 at 6:01 am
SORRY NOMOREFARGAS, IT’S EARLY….
May 7th, 2009 at 6:16 am
Good morning kids!!
Glad that the moderator is tough to be honest, I think before the registered site, things were so way out of control it had just gotten stupid!
So…. This weekend…. is the big story about the rooks and UDFA, or of JRock is sitting north of three bills.
What do ya’ll think?
May 7th, 2009 at 6:16 am
good morning Dirt Lot, exla, NMF, 4eva …
May 7th, 2009 at 6:21 am
And a good day 2all!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 6:23 am
I think the Raiders should sign Lorenzo Neal & Levi Jones before we start the 2009 NFL season tomorrow
both rookies & vets report
May 7th, 2009 at 6:25 am
‘MORNING ROCKSTAR. RAIDER-405, IF QB-2 ARRIVES AT 300+ HE WILL LOOSE ALL OF HIS TEAMMATES & COACHES CONFIDENCE IMO..
May 7th, 2009 at 6:25 am
LB Larry Foote signed with Detroit yesterday.
SS Roy Williams is expected to sign with Cincy today.
May 7th, 2009 at 6:31 am
Russell has spent the offseason working out at the Raider complex, besides missing a few days for his mom’s surgery. I doubt he’s 300+ . it’s not like he’s sitting at home on the couch naked eating cheetos
If JaWalrus isn’t ready to play, Jeff Garcia will be. He and Gradkowski both have experience in Paul Hackett’s system. Russell should be learning a lot from Hackett, Tollner and the other QB’s right now. Assuming Russell’s ankle injury isn’t a concern he should be hitting the gym pretty hard too, not just the classroom …
May 7th, 2009 at 6:40 am
I agree RS,Neal should be in camp yesterday.Dont know 2 much about Jones,but of course if he’s good enough 4 you,he damm sure good enough 4me :=)
May 7th, 2009 at 6:42 am
JAAA-WAAALL-RUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!! =)
May 7th, 2009 at 6:48 am
You should start your own Raider page Rockstar.Lord knows it would be waaaay more accurate,imo
May 7th, 2009 at 6:50 am
Brown is the projected starter at the strong-side spot but only because the Raiders don’t have a better option. Undrafted rookie Joseph and fourth-round draft pick Norris will be given long looks to see if they can crack the starting unit. If so, it’s conceivable that Brown will be out of a job and, perhaps, Morrison will be pushed outside. Alston and Williams started games last season because of a groin injury sustained by Brown. Both also will get a chance to unseat Brown.
-Raider Beat
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These clowns are asking like Ricky Brown is garbage. I suppose that’s why we put a 2nd round tender on him as a RFA and gave him 1.5 million this season … He was playing well before his injury! Morrison & Howard are only starters because we don’t have better options too! Brown was better in run support than these guys and the Beat lists them as potential pro bowlers. Alston & Williams will have a chance to “compete” at LB yes, but they’ll never sniff the playing field.. otherwise why waste 2 draft picks on LB’s?
the Beat also lists Jerome Boyd as part of the LB corps and does not list Sulak. We’re trying Boyd out at safety! Even though Sulak is a hybrid Cable already said we’re trying him out at LB!
May 7th, 2009 at 6:50 am
Ewww, why is it when you read something, you have to have the mental picture that goes with it??
With the Raiders, any scenario is plausible. Personally I think if he is say 310+, then we need to convert him to a DT since that is about the only position that would get him on the field and to earn some of that money.
I hope he comes in around 250 and shows that he is “committed to excellence”
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RaiderRockstar Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 6:31 am
Russell has spent the offseason working out at the Raider complex, besides missing a few days for his mom’s surgery. I doubt he’s 300+ . it’s not like he’s sitting at home on the couch naked eating cheetos
May 7th, 2009 at 6:53 am
acting, not asking
in post #338… sorry
May 7th, 2009 at 6:56 am
I hope he comes in around 250 and shows that he is “committed to excellence”
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Agreed 405. With Russell’s frame he’ll never be 220 lbs. 240/250 is a good goal for him.
I think that’s why Cable said that his footwork is so bad, because he can’t scramble and in the zbs you need that ability and pocket awareness …
May 7th, 2009 at 7:01 am
You should start your own Raider page Rockstar.Lord knows it would be waaaay more accurate,imo
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4eva: as a HUGE Raiders fan I try to be realistic and hopeful at the same time. However, I never spout flat out lies or misinformation to prove my point …
you guys (AM crew) are awesome. I love talking football in here!
May 7th, 2009 at 7:04 am
whoa. it’s not all bad reports from the Raider Beat today!
They have informed us that the Ravens worked out Jerry Porter yesterday along with D.J. Hackett, Kelley Washington and Tab Perry. good riddance!
kudos RB
May 7th, 2009 at 7:07 am
One of the Raider weaknesses in the past has been the absence of a very good blocking fullback, the type that can blow people up. O’Neil was a good pickup but its to bad that Al could not have brought Pittman and Neil aboard in their prime. Of course as a CSUF fan I knew that they were among the best blocking fullbacks, to bad Al didn’t.
May 7th, 2009 at 7:07 am
Morning Nation!!!
LEVI JONES!!!!!!
Ron Artest is a Idiot!!!
Note to self dnt piSSSSSS offf kobe!!! was that an AND 1 mix tape move??????
Hey Narco your still going to the “lika Sto” Right???
May 7th, 2009 at 7:07 am
Can’t wait for Friday hope Jruss looks fit and in shape and would go a long way to the morale of the young guys he is the qb and he needs to be the leader of the team it’s you’re team jruss now live up to it
May 7th, 2009 at 7:09 am
One of the Raider weaknesses in the past has been the absence of a very good blocking fullback, the type that can blow people up.
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Man I miss Jon Ritchie…and the Blood!!! he didnt run well but he would blow up LB’s!!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 7:10 am
THAT’S IT THAT’S IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jawalrus at DT
Fargas as MLB
We would be #1 vs the run in the nfl
p.s. damm straight Fargas could play MLB =)
May 7th, 2009 at 7:12 am
I know EXACTLY what you mean Rockstar,I get high off DA RAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 7:12 am
Man I miss Jon Ritchie…and the Blood!!! he didnt run well but he would blow up LB’s!!!!
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oh yeah. Ritchie brought the pain!
May 7th, 2009 at 7:13 am
good morning MRD, OAKlifer …
May 7th, 2009 at 7:14 am
4evaRaider Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 7:10 am
THAT’S IT THAT’S IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jawalrus at DT
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Why not at Left Tackle. LMFAO
May 7th, 2009 at 7:18 am
Levi Jones could go home and play for the AZ Cardinals.
You know he doesn’t want to play for the Jets, Bills or Patriots.
He’s scared of Joey Porter ever since the Las Vegas casino brawl … Jones got beat down! (maybe he can relate to Javon Walker that way?)
May 7th, 2009 at 7:18 am
Anyone else anxious to see what our offense looks like this year?
Wonder what changes Cable will install. Couldn’t really change it much midseason when he took over. He also has all these new toys to play with. I just hope that Bush gets “IT” b/c I do NOT want to see him on the bench.
May 7th, 2009 at 7:19 am
I’m still taking heat for the drafting of Mike Mitchell, I can’t wait to see him TKO Eddie Royal.
Morning, morning crew.
May 7th, 2009 at 7:19 am
I’m still taking heat for the drafting of Mike Mitchell, I can’t wait to see him TKO Eddie Royal.
Morning, morning crew.
May 7th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Morning Double R,
LT would be a better fit….LOL
Jruss at LT garcia leading us to the promiseland…..
SHIIIIIII@@@$$$$$
Yeah right Jruss will be the most improved player of the year !!!!!!! He has been working harder then we all know!!! Al dsnt let a thing out of that camp well all hear tomarrow how he looks like the # 1 he should be!!! GO KOOL AID!!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Morning Double R,
LT would be a better fit….LOL
Jruss at LT garcia leading us to the promiseland…..
SHIIIIIII@@@$$$$$
Yeah right Jruss will be the most improved player of the year !!!!!!! He has been working harder then we all know!!! Al dsnt let a thing out of that camp well all hear tomarrow how he looks like the # 1 he should be!!! GO KOOL AID!!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 7:24 am
Been brewing a HUGE batch of da Kool-Aid
LET ER RIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 7:24 am
Been brewing a HUGE batch of da Kool-Aid
LET ER RIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 7:24 am
“The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand.”
Come on Cable show us the way!!!!! We need you!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 7:24 am
“The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand.”
Come on Cable show us the way!!!!! We need you!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 7:25 am
One serious concern I have with the Franz Joseph pick is there is a reason he went undrafted.
Anyone have any ideas as to why especially in this day and age of projects and position changes he would have gone undrafted?
May 7th, 2009 at 7:25 am
One serious concern I have with the Franz Joseph pick is there is a reason he went undrafted.
Anyone have any ideas as to why especially in this day and age of projects and position changes he would have gone undrafted?
May 7th, 2009 at 7:26 am
good morning TW, Midwest …
4eva: pass some of that Kool-Aid this way
Russell to the Pro Bowl, baby!
haha
May 7th, 2009 at 7:26 am
good morning TW, Midwest …
4eva: pass some of that Kool-Aid this way
Russell to the Pro Bowl, baby!
haha
May 7th, 2009 at 7:26 am
OAKlifer Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 7:07 am
Morning Nation!!!
LEVI JONES!!!!!!
Ron Artest is a Idiot!!!
Note to self dnt piSSSSSS offf kobe!!! was that an AND 1 mix tape move??????
Hey Narco your still going to the “lika Sto” Right???
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LOL. Good to know someone read my request for Narco Bob before the mod removed it!
May 7th, 2009 at 7:26 am
OAKlifer Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 7:07 am
Morning Nation!!!
LEVI JONES!!!!!!
Ron Artest is a Idiot!!!
Note to self dnt piSSSSSS offf kobe!!! was that an AND 1 mix tape move??????
Hey Narco your still going to the “lika Sto” Right???
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LOL. Good to know someone read my request for Narco Bob before the mod removed it!
May 7th, 2009 at 7:28 am
OAKlifer:
I posted my opinion about Levi Jones, but my post says “Your comment is awaiting moderation” at the top
it’s at the mercy of the mods now … i’m pretty sure the jury will rule in my favor
May 7th, 2009 at 7:28 am
OAKlifer:
I posted my opinion about Levi Jones, but my post says “Your comment is awaiting moderation” at the top
it’s at the mercy of the mods now … i’m pretty sure the jury will rule in my favor
May 7th, 2009 at 7:29 am
Raider-405 Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 7:25 am
One serious concern I have with the Franz Joseph pick is there is a reason he went undrafted.
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No need for concern he is a UDFA no harm no foul.. no wasted pick!! there are a lot of teams and scouts and you would think that in the information age every body would be hip to all prospects…But there is a Mike Mitchell in every Draft 3 teams have him in the 2nd or 3rd no one else has him on the board at all!!! also the draft is very deep there are way more than 150 or so good players in the nation!!
May 7th, 2009 at 7:29 am
Raider-405 Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 7:25 am
One serious concern I have with the Franz Joseph pick is there is a reason he went undrafted.
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No need for concern he is a UDFA no harm no foul.. no wasted pick!! there are a lot of teams and scouts and you would think that in the information age every body would be hip to all prospects…But there is a Mike Mitchell in every Draft 3 teams have him in the 2nd or 3rd no one else has him on the board at all!!! also the draft is very deep there are way more than 150 or so good players in the nation!!
May 7th, 2009 at 7:30 am
Morning Bo….
Helll I even talked about that post to the ol lady after work LMAO!!! Good work!!
I like bob and his post but every one has a sense of humor!!
May 7th, 2009 at 7:30 am
Morning Bo….
Helll I even talked about that post to the ol lady after work LMAO!!! Good work!!
I like bob and his post but every one has a sense of humor!!
May 7th, 2009 at 7:31 am
Veteran Levi Jones schedules visit with Seahawks
It appears the Seattle Seahawks are in the market for an offensive tackle given the uncertain status of veteran Walter Jones. FoxSports.com is reporting the Seahawks will meet with ex-Cincinnati Bengals left tackle Levi Jones next week.
Walter Jones is recovering from offseason knee surgery. Jones’ play began to slip last season and he is set to earn a $6.2 million base salary in 2009.
It has also been reported the Denver Broncos may have interest in Levi Jones.
Source: FoxSports.com
May 7th, 2009 at 7:31 am
Veteran Levi Jones schedules visit with Seahawks
It appears the Seattle Seahawks are in the market for an offensive tackle given the uncertain status of veteran Walter Jones. FoxSports.com is reporting the Seahawks will meet with ex-Cincinnati Bengals left tackle Levi Jones next week.
Walter Jones is recovering from offseason knee surgery. Jones’ play began to slip last season and he is set to earn a $6.2 million base salary in 2009.
It has also been reported the Denver Broncos may have interest in Levi Jones.
Source: FoxSports.com
May 7th, 2009 at 7:33 am
Nice reporting as always Double R,
No wonder it was awaiting mods….JM would hate to lose his job to you!!!LOL they had to make sure there wasnt to much info!!!!
GET him B$ the DONKS do!!!!!!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 7:33 am
Nice reporting as always Double R,
No wonder it was awaiting mods….JM would hate to lose his job to you!!!LOL they had to make sure there wasnt to much info!!!!
GET him B$ the DONKS do!!!!!!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 7:33 am
RaiderTW Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 7:19 am
I’m still taking heat for the drafting of Mike Mitchell, I can’t wait to see him TKO Eddie Royal.
Morning, morning crew
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Screw those Broncos’ fans, I don’t think they have any room to talk after the Cutler debacle.
May 7th, 2009 at 7:33 am
RaiderTW Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 7:19 am
I’m still taking heat for the drafting of Mike Mitchell, I can’t wait to see him TKO Eddie Royal.
Morning, morning crew
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Screw those Broncos’ fans, I don’t think they have any room to talk after the Cutler debacle.
May 7th, 2009 at 7:38 am
But talk they do, Dakota, I’m sure you’ve had your fill of these guys,lol.
May 7th, 2009 at 7:39 am
My friend back in Portland is a huge Donkey fan. He laughed at be prior to last season when I said that we would split the season with Denver. After the opener I was a little nervous but we still got it done. I’ve been LMAO ever since they lost Cutler. I’ve sent him some texts but never got any responses back.
May 7th, 2009 at 7:40 am
“A military operation involves deception. Even though you are competent, appear to be incompetent. Though effective, appear to be ineffective.”
I think Rob Ryan has read to many of these qoutes and started confusing our own guys…
RR: Hey Huff run up in the box look confused then as fast as you can cover the TE on a Seam route it will work.
Huff: Coach thats a bad Idea I’m not sure that will work.
RR: Looking confused always work why you think I never comb my hair?
Huff: Ohh.. I get it I think…
May 7th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Dakota, thanx for the drivers Ed/donkey joke, I caught a few donkey fans with that one & they still laugh at it.
May 7th, 2009 at 7:41 am
TW,
Whenever my “friends” that are Broncos’ fans start talking sheet, I just set up a pickup basketball game and rough them up for an hour or so. That usually shuts them up for a month or two.
I’ll have to try the new Fisher Screen Buster move on them next time!
May 7th, 2009 at 7:43 am
No need for concern he is a UDFA no harm no foul.. no wasted pick!!
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405: I agree with what OAKlifer said (above).
It’s not a surprise that Frantz Joseph went undrafted. Nobody from that college has ever been drafted or made it to the NFL level. He’s the first! He transferred from Boston College to be with his sick mother. The guy put his career on the line for his family. I’m just glad he gets a chance to show the NFL what he’s made of. The Raiders were only 1 of like 6 or 7 teams that wanted to sign this undrafted kid … he chose us!
May 7th, 2009 at 7:48 am
No problem TW, here is another one:
Why dosen’t Wyoming have a pro football team?
Because Colorado would want one too.
May 7th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Dakota Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 7:41 am
TW,
Whenever my “friends” that are Broncos’ fans start talking sheet, I just set up a pickup basketball game and rough them up for an hour or so. That usually shuts them up for a month or two.
I’ll have to try the new Fisher Screen Buster move on them next time!
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Strange, it came as a surprise that you play hoops. Are you more Rambis or West?
May 7th, 2009 at 7:52 am
I am like a Rambis with zero game. I just take up space and hit people.
May 7th, 2009 at 7:55 am
Did you get to staples last night Dakota?
May 7th, 2009 at 7:55 am
But I can jump out of the gym:
http://img3.ifilmpro.com/resize/image/stills/films/resize/istd/2714078.jpg
May 7th, 2009 at 7:57 am
I am like a Rambis with zero game. I just take up space and hit people.
Isnt that a bit redundant…….
May 7th, 2009 at 7:57 am
NoMoreFargas Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 7:55 am
Did you get to staples last night Dakota?
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Yep, didn’t you hear me yell from under the basket, “Hey Ron, are you going to take that from Kobe Bryant? Doesn’t he know that you are Ron Artest?”
May 7th, 2009 at 7:59 am
D. Fisher is da man i love that guy !
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 7:59 am
Dakota Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 7:52 am
I am like a Rambis with zero game. I just take up space and hit people.
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Even Rambis had some finesse…you sound more like a Jeff Ruland.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:01 am
[...] Raiders coach Tom Cable now says his talk about wanting an offensive lineman in the draft was a purposeful diversion. [...]
May 7th, 2009 at 8:02 am
Jeff Ruland, yeah, that’s more like it, lol.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:02 am
Morning all,
just spotted an ad for Alaska Airlines. Anybody flying into the Bay Area for either the opener or the Donkey game on Sept 27 from LA or the Northwest might want to check out the offers. Very good prices. (Alas the deal expires Sept 30 so as far as other games…)
May 7th, 2009 at 8:16 am
testing Dakota testing
May 7th, 2009 at 8:16 am
testing Dakota testing
May 7th, 2009 at 8:17 am
Dakota
Lakers played hockey basketball last night. Nice to see.
Championships are not won with finesse.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:18 am
zzzzzzzz……to late for coffee….
Beer me????
hell thought I’d give it a shot!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 8:19 am
Kobe better not get suspended. Rondo punched Miller in the mouth and didn’t get suspended.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:19 am
Levis Jones is no ZBS tackle, due to all of his injurys he probably is a sound back up. AL stay away, please.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:21 am
Dakota
You always see it your way when it involves the Lakers, it’s always the other teams fault. You have the same concept as Davis, it’s never his fault, and he is always right. lol
May 7th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Man we have a lot of “ifs” on the O-line.
Does that concern anyone or was the last two game performance enought o say we are on the right track?
May 7th, 2009 at 8:24 am
“Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.”
You hear this Jruss…Walker…Sands…Kelly… DHB….Bush….Mcfadd…higgins…OLINE…DLINE…
This it what friday and the next couple of months are for!!!
Lets win b4 we take the field, work harder than ever this mini camp, ota, preseason and it will pay off!!!!!!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 8:25 am
In the old NFL draft, a guy like Franz Joseph would be considered a gem found in the late rounds like the 14th.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Im happy they passed on a OT in the 1st round. None of those guys were familiar with ZBS. There wasnt a Ryan Clady, who played his college in a ZBS. They MAY have been able to make the transition, but with that much guaranteed money that is too big of a risk.
I wanted them to get Raji, but in hindsight Raji had the same type of motivational issues that we are dealing with Sands. He may be even harder to get him motivated once he sign that big contract.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Raider Dell Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 8:21 am
Dakota
You always see it your way when it involves the Lakers, it’s always the other teams fault. You have the same concept as Davis, it’s never his fault, and he is always right. lol
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Sorry Dell, I’d have to disagree with you on that one. For instance, I totally blame the game one loss on the Lakers, they played like a bunch of disinterested junior high girls in that game and I also do not blame Houston for what Fish did last night, and I think he will deserved a one game suspension.
But you are spot on about Davis.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:29 am
The Raider have their best opportunity to win five to six games in the AFC west this season.
The Broncos, Chefs and Dischargers are not easy games, but last year the Raiders had no WR’S, hurt RB(DMAC) and a first year QB. The opening night was a very bad loss, but considering the last Denver game and the first KC game, and if Jano doesn’t drop the ball or the play is never called we should have beaten KC. Finally I was at the SD game in Oaktown and we lead 25 -10 entering the fourth quarter, a couple of first downs , we should have closed that game out.
The season will be not life or death but we must be on the winning end the first three games.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:29 am
RaiderDell,
morning.
I agreed with John Madden that James Harrison should’ve been kicked out of the Super Bowl for punching out the Cardinal who was trying to get off the ground during a punt. Dakota’s Fish boy should be suspended for several games for his blatancy.
Yeah games can be brawls but when you cross the line you should pay the price.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:29 am
RaiderDell,
morning.
I agreed with John Madden that James Harrison should’ve been kicked out of the Super Bowl for punching out the Cardinal who was trying to get off the ground during a punt. Dakota’s Fish boy should be suspended for several games for his blatancy.
Yeah games can be brawls but when you cross the line you should pay the price.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:31 am
# CJ Legend 34 Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Man we have a lot of “ifs” on the O-line.
Does that concern anyone or was the last two game performance enought o say we are on the right track?
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I look at it with a lot of sceptiscm. The reason for that is because he is a great OL coach, we all agree, however we know how he pushed for Harris and we know how that worked out….
May 7th, 2009 at 8:31 am
# CJ Legend 34 Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Man we have a lot of “ifs” on the O-line.
Does that concern anyone or was the last two game performance enought o say we are on the right track?
—-
I look at it with a lot of sceptiscm. The reason for that is because he is a great OL coach, we all agree, however we know how he pushed for Harris and we know how that worked out….
May 7th, 2009 at 8:31 am
Dakota
I’m glad you disagree with me, you shared your comment. How is the coffee table from the pounding it took from the first game.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:31 am
Dakota
I’m glad you disagree with me, you shared your comment. How is the coffee table from the pounding it took from the first game.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Dakota Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 8:19 am
Kobe better not get suspended. Rondo punched Miller in the mouth and didn’t get suspended.
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Huh? I thought the worry was Fisher getting a one-game vacation. Are you worried about the elbow Kobe gave Artest?
I like Artest, outside of the lame haircut. I’d even buy him a beer and give it to him, upside down.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Dakota Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 8:19 am
Kobe better not get suspended. Rondo punched Miller in the mouth and didn’t get suspended.
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Huh? I thought the worry was Fisher getting a one-game vacation. Are you worried about the elbow Kobe gave Artest?
I like Artest, outside of the lame haircut. I’d even buy him a beer and give it to him, upside down.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:35 am
M
The results are we saw the punch, but what was happening behind several plays and the ensuing plays with Fish. Maybe we didn’t see some activity that was not caught on TV.
The punch was wrong, because the nature of the second part or person in this case being caught. As Raider fans were quite use to the second blow being seen and then the yellow flag comes whistling out.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:35 am
M
The results are we saw the punch, but what was happening behind several plays and the ensuing plays with Fish. Maybe we didn’t see some activity that was not caught on TV.
The punch was wrong, because the nature of the second part or person in this case being caught. As Raider fans were quite use to the second blow being seen and then the yellow flag comes whistling out.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:39 am
Fisher and Walton were reacting to the dirty tactic of holding onto a jersey as someone goes for a rebound causing a bad spill.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:39 am
Fisher and Walton were reacting to the dirty tactic of holding onto a jersey as someone goes for a rebound causing a bad spill.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Dell,
The coffee table is in the back of the pickup awaiting interment at the Hot Springs city dump. Services will be held on Monday, May 11th, 2009 at 10:00 o’clock a.m. at the 7th Calvary Church on North River Street.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Dell,
The coffee table is in the back of the pickup awaiting interment at the Hot Springs city dump. Services will be held on Monday, May 11th, 2009 at 10:00 o’clock a.m. at the 7th Calvary Church on North River Street.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Odom’s jersey was being held by Luis Scola. That why he got the retaliation hit.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Odom’s jersey was being held by Luis Scola. That why he got the retaliation hit.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Ex
I’m glad the Lakers are playing Hockey basketball. Your not going to win any Championship with no contact.
The desire has to be there and some times the rough stuff needs to beestablished to intimidate and dominate.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Ex
I’m glad the Lakers are playing Hockey basketball. Your not going to win any Championship with no contact.
The desire has to be there and some times the rough stuff needs to beestablished to intimidate and dominate.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Former Cowboy Williams agrees with Bengals…….
Glad we went with M&M instead of H&C “horse collar”
May 7th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Former Cowboy Williams agrees with Bengals…….
Glad we went with M&M instead of H&C “horse collar”
May 7th, 2009 at 8:44 am
I like Artest, outside of the lame haircut. I’d even buy him a beer and give it to him, upside down.
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Come on Bo that cut was lined out to the T!!!!
I’d still dump my beer on him tho!!!
any one know where Ican buy his rap tape???
May 7th, 2009 at 8:44 am
I like Artest, outside of the lame haircut. I’d even buy him a beer and give it to him, upside down.
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Come on Bo that cut was lined out to the T!!!!
I’d still dump my beer on him tho!!!
any one know where Ican buy his rap tape???
May 7th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Dakota
You are one funny guy. Have you ever thought about stand up comic routine? Some clubs in cities have these amateur nights, you would be great. Just talk about this blog and your passions for politics, Lakers and Raiders and that should generate many laughs.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Dakota
You are one funny guy. Have you ever thought about stand up comic routine? Some clubs in cities have these amateur nights, you would be great. Just talk about this blog and your passions for politics, Lakers and Raiders and that should generate many laughs.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Raider Dell,
That’s why we lost last lear. Gasol and Odem played soft against Boston. In the Playoff Final’s, 1/2 court physical styles tend to win.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Raider Dell,
That’s why we lost last lear. Gasol and Odem played soft against Boston. In the Playoff Final’s, 1/2 court physical styles tend to win.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:48 am
If someone on the Lakers needs to retaliate on Odom’s behalf, it should be Mbenga…not Fisher. What good does it do the Lakers to have a 7 foot tall black belt just sitting on the bench anyhow? Have him go in and clean some clocks and let him get the suspension.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/black%20belt%20dj%20mbenga/nemoshark/etc/DJ-Goro.jpg
May 7th, 2009 at 8:48 am
If someone on the Lakers needs to retaliate on Odom’s behalf, it should be Mbenga…not Fisher. What good does it do the Lakers to have a 7 foot tall black belt just sitting on the bench anyhow? Have him go in and clean some clocks and let him get the suspension.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/black%20belt%20dj%20mbenga/nemoshark/etc/DJ-Goro.jpg
May 7th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Hey Dakota,
What can we get for Gasoft in the offseason? Think we can get Noah and Gordon for Gasol and Farmar?
May 7th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Hey Dakota,
What can we get for Gasoft in the offseason? Think we can get Noah and Gordon for Gasol and Farmar?
May 7th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Gasol is much tougher this year. Remember, he’s playing a 7′6″ Yao who is being allowed to Shaqtofy (how do you like that term) the middle. He get’s an extra 2 seconds on the 3 second rule. LOL
May 7th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Gasol is much tougher this year. Remember, he’s playing a 7′6″ Yao who is being allowed to Shaqtofy (how do you like that term) the middle. He get’s an extra 2 seconds on the 3 second rule. LOL
May 7th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Jhill,
I wouldn’t trade Gasoft, he will be a great PF once Bynum rounds into shape…but I would do a sign and trade of Odom for either Reggie Jefferson or Ron Artest in a heartbeat.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Jhill,
I wouldn’t trade Gasoft, he will be a great PF once Bynum rounds into shape…but I would do a sign and trade of Odom for either Reggie Jefferson or Ron Artest in a heartbeat.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:53 am
When they called the fouls on Yao, he was a non factor.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:53 am
When they called the fouls on Yao, he was a non factor.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Personally, I can’t see us winning shyt with Gasoft’s punk arse in the middle. I’m already looking to move him and keep Odom.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Personally, I can’t see us winning shyt with Gasoft’s punk arse in the middle. I’m already looking to move him and keep Odom.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:55 am
The blog has a host and does not like some of our comments. Stay above the fray and talk Raiders.
You fellas take care. I have two appointments here back to back discussing why they paid over $50 thousand dollars in taxes, never met these folks, should be interesting.
Peace.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:55 am
The blog has a host and does not like some of our comments. Stay above the fray and talk Raiders.
You fellas take care. I have two appointments here back to back discussing why they paid over $50 thousand dollars in taxes, never met these folks, should be interesting.
Peace.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:56 am
jhill Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Hey Dakota,
What can we get for Gasoft in the offseason? Think we can get Noah and Gordon for Gasol and Farmar?
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Lunacy.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:56 am
jhill Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Hey Dakota,
What can we get for Gasoft in the offseason? Think we can get Noah and Gordon for Gasol and Farmar?
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Lunacy.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:56 am
I can’t stand a 7 footer who refuses to bang. Landry and Hayes??????
Milsap and Boozer???????
Perkins ?!?!?!?!!?
Odom all day over Gasoft next to Bynum.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:56 am
I can’t stand a 7 footer who refuses to bang. Landry and Hayes??????
Milsap and Boozer???????
Perkins ?!?!?!?!!?
Odom all day over Gasoft next to Bynum.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:56 am
N-U-G-G-E-T-S
May 7th, 2009 at 8:56 am
N-U-G-G-E-T-S
May 7th, 2009 at 8:57 am
Per TMZ:
Manny Ramirez has tested positive for performance enhancing drugs and will be suspended for 50 games, the LA Times is reporting.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:57 am
Per TMZ:
Manny Ramirez has tested positive for performance enhancing drugs and will be suspended for 50 games, the LA Times is reporting.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:57 am
Ok Bo,
How about Gordon and Noah for Gasol, Farmar, and we’ll throw in Fluke too.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:57 am
Ok Bo,
How about Gordon and Noah for Gasol, Farmar, and we’ll throw in Fluke too.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:58 am
The Lakers need to go inside to Gasol more often in my opinion. And can we please get some more pick and rolls with Gasol and Kobe? Cripes. Just like 2004 when Jackson refused to run very many pick and rolls with Malone and Kobe. I mean, that could have been unstoppable!
Sorry….goooooo Raiders!
May 7th, 2009 at 8:58 am
The Lakers need to go inside to Gasol more often in my opinion. And can we please get some more pick and rolls with Gasol and Kobe? Cripes. Just like 2004 when Jackson refused to run very many pick and rolls with Malone and Kobe. I mean, that could have been unstoppable!
Sorry….goooooo Raiders!
May 7th, 2009 at 8:59 am
So much for Mannywood!
May 7th, 2009 at 8:59 am
So much for Mannywood!
May 7th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Sorry I know it’s not Raider news but to all dodger fans ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Sorry I know it’s not Raider news but to all dodger fans ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 9:00 am
B-I-L-L-U-P-S
May 7th, 2009 at 9:00 am
B-I-L-L-U-P-S
May 7th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Go inside to Gasoft so he can pass it back out?
Or so he can go up with that super soft left hand hook shot?
Or, so he can shhot the 15 ftr?
May 7th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Go inside to Gasoft so he can pass it back out?
Or so he can go up with that super soft left hand hook shot?
Or, so he can shhot the 15 ftr?
May 7th, 2009 at 9:01 am
C-A-R-M-E-L-L-O
May 7th, 2009 at 9:01 am
C-A-R-M-E-L-L-O
May 7th, 2009 at 9:01 am
hmmmmm…… does contra costa have a laker blog……
May 7th, 2009 at 9:01 am
hmmmmm…… does contra costa have a laker blog……
May 7th, 2009 at 9:01 am
N-E-N-E
May 7th, 2009 at 9:01 am
N-E-N-E
May 7th, 2009 at 9:02 am
J.R.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:02 am
J.R.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:02 am
That is great news about Manny, lol. The happiest guy in the world right now? A-Rod…he must be very happy that the spotlight will be going from him to Manny for a while.
Are any of these guys for real anymore? Last great true-natural baseball players…Sandberg and Ripken.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:02 am
That is great news about Manny, lol. The happiest guy in the world right now? A-Rod…he must be very happy that the spotlight will be going from him to Manny for a while.
Are any of these guys for real anymore? Last great true-natural baseball players…Sandberg and Ripken.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:02 am
In case some of you haven’t noticed, it’s the Dodger arms that are carrying the team. And we still get Manny for 132 games, and the playoffs!
So what’s that you say?
May 7th, 2009 at 9:02 am
In case some of you haven’t noticed, it’s the Dodger arms that are carrying the team. And we still get Manny for 132 games, and the playoffs!
So what’s that you say?
May 7th, 2009 at 9:03 am
I actually think the Nuggets are playing the best ball of the playoffs, and Gasoft against Nene will be laughable.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:03 am
I actually think the Nuggets are playing the best ball of the playoffs, and Gasoft against Nene will be laughable.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:04 am
My bad Oak …
But don’t be like that since Portland is sitting at the house.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:04 am
My bad Oak …
But don’t be like that since Portland is sitting at the house.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Jerry Sir,
We need a fix I know its early but with the roids lakeshow…and now some nuggets fans?!?!? its gettin bad in here!!
Regards,
OAKlifer
May 7th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Jerry Sir,
We need a fix I know its early but with the roids lakeshow…and now some nuggets fans?!?!? its gettin bad in here!!
Regards,
OAKlifer
May 7th, 2009 at 9:07 am
LMAO!!!!!
My bad Oak …
But don’t be like that since Portland is sitting at the house.
LMAO
Understood!!!!
golf is nice this time of year……
May 7th, 2009 at 9:07 am
LMAO!!!!!
My bad Oak …
But don’t be like that since Portland is sitting at the house.
LMAO
Understood!!!!
golf is nice this time of year……
May 7th, 2009 at 9:07 am
OAKlifer Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Jerry Sir,
We need a fix I know its early but with the roids lakeshow…and now some nuggets fans?!?!? its gettin bad in here!!
Regards,
OAKlifer
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GOOOO CUBS GOOOO CUBS
May 7th, 2009 at 9:07 am
OAKlifer Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Jerry Sir,
We need a fix I know its early but with the roids lakeshow…and now some nuggets fans?!?!? its gettin bad in here!!
Regards,
OAKlifer
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GOOOO CUBS GOOOO CUBS
May 7th, 2009 at 9:08 am
LA KINGS RULE!!!! GOOOOO KINGS!!!!!
Okay, well that was stretching it a bit, lol.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:08 am
LA KINGS RULE!!!! GOOOOO KINGS!!!!!
Okay, well that was stretching it a bit, lol.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Good morning Nation.
Lakers!!
I haven’t watched a lot of of BB since Jordan Retired.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Good morning Nation.
Lakers!!
I haven’t watched a lot of of BB since Jordan Retired.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:10 am
I didn’t watch a lot of BB WHEN Jordan played…those were the Nike Years…only player that could get fouled on a fade away jumper = MJ.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:10 am
I didn’t watch a lot of BB WHEN Jordan played…those were the Nike Years…only player that could get fouled on a fade away jumper = MJ.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Bulls/ Knicks
And
Bulls/ Jazz
Those games were great.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Bulls/ Knicks
And
Bulls/ Jazz
Those games were great.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:12 am
I would love to go to a cubs game so much history in that stadium!! THE IVY I mean come on…….
Okay, well that was stretching it a bit, lol.
no but really!!
And ok what the hell dnt tell any body I ever said this…..
GO LAKERS!!! ” I just hate yao”
May 7th, 2009 at 9:12 am
I would love to go to a cubs game so much history in that stadium!! THE IVY I mean come on…….
Okay, well that was stretching it a bit, lol.
no but really!!
And ok what the hell dnt tell any body I ever said this…..
GO LAKERS!!! ” I just hate yao”
May 7th, 2009 at 9:12 am
I wonder if we could get Aldridge and Outlaw for Gasoft?
May 7th, 2009 at 9:12 am
I wonder if we could get Aldridge and Outlaw for Gasoft?
May 7th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Jerry better be staking out the parking lot for interviews damn it!
May 7th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Jerry better be staking out the parking lot for interviews damn it!
May 7th, 2009 at 9:13 am
LMAO
May 7th, 2009 at 9:13 am
LMAO
May 7th, 2009 at 9:14 am
jhill Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 9:12 am
I wonder if we could get Aldridge and Outlaw for Gasoft?
______________________
TOUCHE……
I wonder if we could get kobe for sergio and webster…….
Aldridge is the man!!!!
how bout we just give you Outlaw if fish hits artest like that in the mouth in game 3!!!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 9:14 am
jhill Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 9:12 am
I wonder if we could get Aldridge and Outlaw for Gasoft?
______________________
TOUCHE……
I wonder if we could get kobe for sergio and webster…….
Aldridge is the man!!!!
how bout we just give you Outlaw if fish hits artest like that in the mouth in game 3!!!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 9:15 am
I played golf last Monday. Shot a 65. Then got to the back 9
May 7th, 2009 at 9:15 am
I played golf last Monday. Shot a 65. Then got to the back 9
May 7th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Oaklifer, how could you hate Yao? How could anyone hate Yao?
http://www.sabeehkhan.com/Yao.jpg
May 7th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Oaklifer, how could you hate Yao? How could anyone hate Yao?
http://www.sabeehkhan.com/Yao.jpg
May 7th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Dakota,
lol
That’s true!!
May 7th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Dakota,
lol
That’s true!!
May 7th, 2009 at 9:17 am
Exla,
LMAO
May 7th, 2009 at 9:17 am
Exla,
LMAO
May 7th, 2009 at 9:17 am
jhill Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 9:12 am
I wonder if we could get Aldridge and Outlaw for Gasoft?
________________________
Throw in Blake and you’ve got a deal!
May 7th, 2009 at 9:17 am
jhill Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 9:12 am
I wonder if we could get Aldridge and Outlaw for Gasoft?
________________________
Throw in Blake and you’ve got a deal!
May 7th, 2009 at 9:17 am
The suspension will cost Ramirez nearly $8 million of his $25 million salary. Players are not paid while they serve suspensions related to baseball’s performance-enhancing drug policy.
If Ramirez begins serving the suspension immediately, he will not be eligible to return until early July
May 7th, 2009 at 9:17 am
The suspension will cost Ramirez nearly $8 million of his $25 million salary. Players are not paid while they serve suspensions related to baseball’s performance-enhancing drug policy.
If Ramirez begins serving the suspension immediately, he will not be eligible to return until early July
May 7th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Good thing they had that 13 game home streak. LMFAO
May 7th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Good thing they had that 13 game home streak. LMFAO
May 7th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Dakota,
You are sick dude!!
Nasty!
May 7th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Dakota,
You are sick dude!!
Nasty!
May 7th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Dakota Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 9:15 am
************
LOL that is an awesome picture!!!!!
Blake too????? wow “purple haze all throu my brain”
Hmmm give up two starters…Lamarcus will be an alstar next yr mark my words…and arugebly the best 6th man in the leauge…..hmmmm….put it down or pass it!!!
GO DHB!!!!!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Dakota Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 9:15 am
************
LOL that is an awesome picture!!!!!
Blake too????? wow “purple haze all throu my brain”
Hmmm give up two starters…Lamarcus will be an alstar next yr mark my words…and arugebly the best 6th man in the leauge…..hmmmm….put it down or pass it!!!
GO DHB!!!!!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Pass it please!! lol
May 7th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Pass it please!! lol
May 7th, 2009 at 9:27 am
“stroke….smoke… stroke…..smoke…..”
funk doc
May 7th, 2009 at 9:27 am
“stroke….smoke… stroke…..smoke…..”
funk doc
May 7th, 2009 at 9:27 am
I never had purple haze!! Is it a lot diff than GDP??
May 7th, 2009 at 9:27 am
I never had purple haze!! Is it a lot diff than GDP??
May 7th, 2009 at 9:28 am
Smoke ….. Smoke…..
LMAO
May 7th, 2009 at 9:28 am
Smoke ….. Smoke…..
LMAO
May 7th, 2009 at 9:28 am
you think Jerry would awnser me on his live chat..
Mr. Mac just curious you a Lakers fan or Warriors?
May 7th, 2009 at 9:28 am
you think Jerry would awnser me on his live chat..
Mr. Mac just curious you a Lakers fan or Warriors?
May 7th, 2009 at 9:28 am
Growing up playing backyard basketball to unwritten rules, such as the only way a foul could be called is if someone had their arms hacked off during a shot. Karate chops to the neck, elbows, face slaps – going to the basket was akin to going to the net in hockey. And once the shot was away no amount on mayhem could be considered a foul. During rebounds no rules applied at all.
A further unwritten rule was that no one intentionally tried to hurt anyone else. There were enough broken bones, blood and lacerations as it was. No cheap shots.
If anyone had done to anyone else during those backyard games what Fisher did to Scola last night, the game would have paused as Fisher had the crap kicked out of him. Because he had crossed the line everyone knew was there. Then the game would have resumed with Fisher either playing or not, his choice. It was how peace was kept in a brutal game.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:28 am
Growing up playing backyard basketball to unwritten rules, such as the only way a foul could be called is if someone had their arms hacked off during a shot. Karate chops to the neck, elbows, face slaps – going to the basket was akin to going to the net in hockey. And once the shot was away no amount on mayhem could be considered a foul. During rebounds no rules applied at all.
A further unwritten rule was that no one intentionally tried to hurt anyone else. There were enough broken bones, blood and lacerations as it was. No cheap shots.
If anyone had done to anyone else during those backyard games what Fisher did to Scola last night, the game would have paused as Fisher had the crap kicked out of him. Because he had crossed the line everyone knew was there. Then the game would have resumed with Fisher either playing or not, his choice. It was how peace was kept in a brutal game.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:31 am
M,
You sure that was BB??!! lol
May 7th, 2009 at 9:31 am
M,
You sure that was BB??!! lol
May 7th, 2009 at 9:31 am
We only saw the retaliation to Scola for his dirty play.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:31 am
We only saw the retaliation to Scola for his dirty play.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Agreed M,
BUT …
The game would have been stopped a lot sooner to kick the crap out of Scola.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Agreed M,
BUT …
The game would have been stopped a lot sooner to kick the crap out of Scola.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Is it a lot diff than GDP??
if thats the grapes yeah a little different nothing copares to the pittsburg grapes!!!!!mmmmmmmmm… I miss home!!!!
O,
you get a Pb jar empty half of it out….ohhhwait wait nevermind…….
May 7th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Is it a lot diff than GDP??
if thats the grapes yeah a little different nothing copares to the pittsburg grapes!!!!!mmmmmmmmm… I miss home!!!!
O,
you get a Pb jar empty half of it out….ohhhwait wait nevermind…….
May 7th, 2009 at 9:36 am
OAK,
Dude! What!!!!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 9:36 am
OAK,
Dude! What!!!!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Grapes!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Grapes!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 9:41 am
“If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles.”
Again it starts this friday!!!!
Marshall, Cabel,
GET THESE MEN READY….It all starts tomarrow!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 9:41 am
“If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles.”
Again it starts this friday!!!!
Marshall, Cabel,
GET THESE MEN READY….It all starts tomarrow!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 9:42 am
OAK,
Dude! What!!!!!!
______________________
Peanut butter jar empty half out throw in some grapes…..LOL fill it back up…….a few extra stamps………you know.. “I miss home”
LOL…
May 7th, 2009 at 9:42 am
OAK,
Dude! What!!!!!!
______________________
Peanut butter jar empty half out throw in some grapes…..LOL fill it back up…….a few extra stamps………you know.. “I miss home”
LOL…
May 7th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Looks like Manny is takin over for Bonds:
– Los Angeles Dodgers’ Manny Ramirez has been suspended 50 games for a positive drug test, SI.com reports.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Looks like Manny is takin over for Bonds:
– Los Angeles Dodgers’ Manny Ramirez has been suspended 50 games for a positive drug test, SI.com reports.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:50 am
“The one who figures on victory at headquarters before even doing battle is the one who has the most strategic factors on his side.”
Is he talking bout Alameda HQ…….
GO Coaches…..
DHB 54 catches 865 yrds 7 td’s
May 7th, 2009 at 9:50 am
“The one who figures on victory at headquarters before even doing battle is the one who has the most strategic factors on his side.”
Is he talking bout Alameda HQ…….
GO Coaches…..
DHB 54 catches 865 yrds 7 td’s
May 7th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Denver moved Michael Pittman to FB last season and he finished the season on IR with a major neck injury. What makes that Raiders feel that he is durable enough to play FB.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Denver moved Michael Pittman to FB last season and he finished the season on IR with a major neck injury. What makes that Raiders feel that he is durable enough to play FB.
May 7th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Manny, say it aint so!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Manny, say it aint so!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 10:11 am
OAK,
Damn boy!!! That’s smart!!
I thought my soap thing was good, but this…. !!!
I love it!!
May 7th, 2009 at 10:11 am
OAK,
Damn boy!!! That’s smart!!
I thought my soap thing was good, but this…. !!!
I love it!!
May 7th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Soap or candle, you know!!
May 7th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Soap or candle, you know!!
May 7th, 2009 at 10:14 am
I was one of those fan that were yellng at my TV during the draft, but when I did some research I was really impressed with DHB. The guy actually looked a lot more impressive than the other WRs. The part I love is that he can climb the ladder and get the ball and that is what JR needs. He overthrew WRs A LOT last year. Although JR needs to work on his accuracy, DHB will be able to go up and get some of those balls.
As fas as Michael Mitchell, I like that bold pick. He is a film junkie. They say he watches more tape then some of the coaches. Thats what we need a QB on defense.
May 7th, 2009 at 10:14 am
I was one of those fan that were yellng at my TV during the draft, but when I did some research I was really impressed with DHB. The guy actually looked a lot more impressive than the other WRs. The part I love is that he can climb the ladder and get the ball and that is what JR needs. He overthrew WRs A LOT last year. Although JR needs to work on his accuracy, DHB will be able to go up and get some of those balls.
As fas as Michael Mitchell, I like that bold pick. He is a film junkie. They say he watches more tape then some of the coaches. Thats what we need a QB on defense.
May 7th, 2009 at 10:16 am
That’s for int shipping!! lol
May 7th, 2009 at 10:16 am
That’s for int shipping!! lol
May 7th, 2009 at 10:21 am
have we signed a fullback yet?
May 7th, 2009 at 10:21 am
have we signed a fullback yet?
May 7th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Dakota,
Yao had his eyes cloded. LOL
May 7th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Dakota,
Yao had his eyes cloded. LOL
May 7th, 2009 at 10:23 am
that’s closed
May 7th, 2009 at 10:23 am
that’s closed
May 7th, 2009 at 10:23 am
WASSUP NATION!
May 7th, 2009 at 10:23 am
WASSUP NATION!
May 7th, 2009 at 10:24 am
NICE O,
Good work!!!
Whats up R-Tay,
The whole pittman story was a slow news day out of Aalmeda wouldnt look into it so much….how ever helthy he is a threat out of the back field… But why you say??? only beacuse our other threat Bush refuses to line up at full back….cant we just call them RB 1&2 like a Dr. Seuss book get them both on the field at the same time!!!! ” bush and Mcfadd…that is!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 10:24 am
NICE O,
Good work!!!
Whats up R-Tay,
The whole pittman story was a slow news day out of Aalmeda wouldnt look into it so much….how ever helthy he is a threat out of the back field… But why you say??? only beacuse our other threat Bush refuses to line up at full back….cant we just call them RB 1&2 like a Dr. Seuss book get them both on the field at the same time!!!! ” bush and Mcfadd…that is!!!
May 7th, 2009 at 10:25 am
I think that means Yao loves him.
May 7th, 2009 at 10:25 am
I think that means Yao loves him.
May 7th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Denver moved Michael Pittman to FB last season and he finished the season on IR with a major neck injury. What makes that Raiders feel that he is durable enough to play FB.
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Pittman is done. Remember Mike Alstott after his first neck injury? He was never the same… and he was HUGE! The best FB in the league when he was healthy.
Mike Pittman is NOT the answer. sign Lo Neal or let Luke Lawton have another crack at it. He got a lot better as the season progressed last year
May 7th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Denver moved Michael Pittman to FB last season and he finished the season on IR with a major neck injury. What makes that Raiders feel that he is durable enough to play FB.
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Pittman is done. Remember Mike Alstott after his first neck injury? He was never the same… and he was HUGE! The best FB in the league when he was healthy.
Mike Pittman is NOT the answer. sign Lo Neal or let Luke Lawton have another crack at it. He got a lot better as the season progressed last year
May 7th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Denver moved Michael Pittman to FB last season and he finished the season on IR with a major neck injury. What makes that Raiders feel that he is durable enough to play FB.
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did u see Pittmans arms??( HES SWOLL) as a back up plan if neal doesnt pan out or as a backup to Oren O, its a great pick up..he can catch the ball out the backfield…are u kidding me>? that opens up so many things if ur ful;lback can catch…griffin had some good plays after the catch
May 7th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Denver moved Michael Pittman to FB last season and he finished the season on IR with a major neck injury. What makes that Raiders feel that he is durable enough to play FB.
++++++++++++++++++
did u see Pittmans arms??( HES SWOLL) as a back up plan if neal doesnt pan out or as a backup to Oren O, its a great pick up..he can catch the ball out the backfield…are u kidding me>? that opens up so many things if ur ful;lback can catch…griffin had some good plays after the catch
May 7th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Bush refuses to line up at full back….cant we just call them RB 1&2 like a Dr. Seuss book get them both on the field at the same time!!!!
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exactly. I’d like to see some more split backs sets with DMC & Bush too
May 7th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Bush refuses to line up at full back….cant we just call them RB 1&2 like a Dr. Seuss book get them both on the field at the same time!!!!
***
exactly. I’d like to see some more split backs sets with DMC & Bush too
May 7th, 2009 at 10:30 am
I run that split back on Madden all the timE……they cant stop IT..even better when I put fargas at rb bush at fb and dmac in the flat…
May 7th, 2009 at 10:30 am
I run that split back on Madden all the timE……they cant stop IT..even better when I put fargas at rb bush at fb and dmac in the flat…
May 7th, 2009 at 10:30 am
I’d rather have Griffith coming back from a busted knee than Pittman coming from a jacked up neck
May 7th, 2009 at 10:30 am
I’d rather have Griffith coming back from a busted knee than Pittman coming from a jacked up neck
May 7th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Neck injury at the fullback position= He’s trough!
May 7th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Neck injury at the fullback position= He’s trough!
May 7th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Griffith signed with Seattle.
May 7th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Griffith signed with Seattle.
May 7th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Double R,
I should get ashot before Griffith…
I ran a sub 6.0 40 in H.S.
May 7th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Double R,
I should get ashot before Griffith…
I ran a sub 6.0 40 in H.S.
May 7th, 2009 at 10:35 am
I’d rather have another FB, not Neal, Pittman, or Griffith!!
May 7th, 2009 at 10:35 am
I’d rather have another FB, not Neal, Pittman, or Griffith!!
May 7th, 2009 at 10:35 am
I should get a shot before Griffith…
***
LOL!
I know Dakota. thanks buddy
May 7th, 2009 at 10:35 am
I should get a shot before Griffith…
***
LOL!
I know Dakota. thanks buddy
May 7th, 2009 at 10:36 am
OAK,
Why so fast?!!!! lol
May 7th, 2009 at 10:36 am
OAK,
Why so fast?!!!! lol
May 7th, 2009 at 10:39 am
I’d rather have another FB, not Neal, Pittman, or Griffith!!
***
Andrew Pinnock, Nick Goings, Cecil Sapp, Anthony Cotrone or Reuben Droughns?
May 7th, 2009 at 10:39 am
I’d rather have another FB, not Neal, Pittman, or Griffith!!
***
Andrew Pinnock, Nick Goings, Cecil Sapp, Anthony Cotrone or Reuben Droughns?
May 7th, 2009 at 10:47 am
RUFA or Sapp. IMHO
May 7th, 2009 at 10:47 am
RUFA or Sapp. IMHO
May 7th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Manny blames it on the Dr. prescribing Meds for a medical condition. LMFAO. How do you say liar in Espanol.
May 7th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Manny blames it on the Dr. prescribing Meds for a medical condition. LMFAO. How do you say liar in Espanol.
May 7th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Watching one of those mob documentaries and theres the teflon Don John Gotti sportin’ a satin Raiders jacket…
May 7th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Watching one of those mob documentaries and theres the teflon Don John Gotti sportin’ a satin Raiders jacket…
May 7th, 2009 at 10:54 am
For those that care: Sounds like Fisher will be suspended for one game, and Kobe will get a flagrant foul on his record, but no suspension.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakersweb8-2009may08,0,7937877.story
May 7th, 2009 at 10:54 am
For those that care: Sounds like Fisher will be suspended for one game, and Kobe will get a flagrant foul on his record, but no suspension.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakersweb8-2009may08,0,7937877.story
May 7th, 2009 at 10:55 am
I feel bad for McKenzie, but **** the Patriots and their “A+ draft”
“Pats 3rd round LB out for season”
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-patriots-mckenzie&prov=ap&type=lgns
May 7th, 2009 at 10:55 am
I feel bad for McKenzie, but **** the Patriots and their “A+ draft”
“Pats 3rd round LB out for season”
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-patriots-mckenzie&prov=ap&type=lgns
May 7th, 2009 at 10:57 am
OT Charles Spencer is going to work out for the Giants.
he’s a 6′4,” 337-pounder that has spent time with the Texans & Jags – who both employ a zbs
why don’t we sign this guy? he should come cheap since he’s only started 2 games in his career …
*** in other news: LB Napolean Harris had a visit with the Steelers & WR Jerry Porter had a work out with the Ravens
May 7th, 2009 at 10:57 am
OT Charles Spencer is going to work out for the Giants.
he’s a 6′4,” 337-pounder that has spent time with the Texans & Jags – who both employ a zbs
why don’t we sign this guy? he should come cheap since he’s only started 2 games in his career …
*** in other news: LB Napolean Harris had a visit with the Steelers & WR Jerry Porter had a work out with the Ravens
May 7th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Manny Ramirez just released the following statement regarding his 50 game suspension for violating the MLB drug policy:
“Recently I saw a physician for a personal health issue. He gave me a medication, not a steroid, which he thought was OK to give me.
Unfortunately, the medication was banned under our drug policy. Under the policy, that mistake is now my responsibility. I’ve been advised not to say anything more for now.
I do want to say one other thing; I’ve taken and passed about 15 drug tests over the past 5 seasons.
I want to apologize to Mr. McCourt, Mrs. McCourt, Mr. Torre, my teammates, the Dodger organization, and to the Dodger fans. L.A. is a special place to me and I know everybody is disappointed. So am I. I’m sorry about this whole situation.”
May 7th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Manny Ramirez just released the following statement regarding his 50 game suspension for violating the MLB drug policy:
“Recently I saw a physician for a personal health issue. He gave me a medication, not a steroid, which he thought was OK to give me.
Unfortunately, the medication was banned under our drug policy. Under the policy, that mistake is now my responsibility. I’ve been advised not to say anything more for now.
I do want to say one other thing; I’ve taken and passed about 15 drug tests over the past 5 seasons.
I want to apologize to Mr. McCourt, Mrs. McCourt, Mr. Torre, my teammates, the Dodger organization, and to the Dodger fans. L.A. is a special place to me and I know everybody is disappointed. So am I. I’m sorry about this whole situation.”
May 7th, 2009 at 10:59 am
We also have M Reece. He was a RB/ WR at college.
May 7th, 2009 at 10:59 am
We also have M Reece. He was a RB/ WR at college.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:00 am
You guys think Joseph has any chance of playing LB for us this year?
May 7th, 2009 at 11:00 am
You guys think Joseph has any chance of playing LB for us this year?
May 7th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Hey Manny, you have the money, hook yourself up with HGH like the NFL players do, I don’t think they have a test for it yet.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Hey Manny, you have the money, hook yourself up with HGH like the NFL players do, I don’t think they have a test for it yet.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:02 am
I wonder how many times Manny injected Baby Papi in the ass in Boston??
May 7th, 2009 at 11:02 am
I wonder how many times Manny injected Baby Papi in the ass in Boston??
May 7th, 2009 at 11:03 am
How do you say lawsuit in Spanish.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:03 am
How do you say lawsuit in Spanish.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:05 am
You guys think Joseph has any chance of playing LB for us this year?
***
very slim. he’ll have to be a beast on special teams too, not just linebacker to make the team
might start out on the practice squad …
May 7th, 2009 at 11:05 am
You guys think Joseph has any chance of playing LB for us this year?
***
very slim. he’ll have to be a beast on special teams too, not just linebacker to make the team
might start out on the practice squad …
May 7th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Manny will enjoy his vacation, he doesn’t care.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Manny will enjoy his vacation, he doesn’t care.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:06 am
DMAC Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 11:02 am
I wonder how many times Manny injected Baby Papi in the ass in Boston??
————————————————–
Come to think of it, Manny acted like someone with steroid rage in Boston.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:06 am
DMAC Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 11:02 am
I wonder how many times Manny injected Baby Papi in the ass in Boston??
————————————————–
Come to think of it, Manny acted like someone with steroid rage in Boston.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:06 am
We dont need more players for the Oline, now we need to look at FB and a DT if a good one becomes available. IMO
This will be an interesting year!!
May 7th, 2009 at 11:06 am
We dont need more players for the Oline, now we need to look at FB and a DT if a good one becomes available. IMO
This will be an interesting year!!
May 7th, 2009 at 11:06 am
What about Norris? Saw a lot of Pac10 football and don’t recall this guy.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:06 am
What about Norris? Saw a lot of Pac10 football and don’t recall this guy.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:08 am
I heard that the Packers are already toying with the idea that Raji can’t play the NT in their 3-4.
Nice. Raji playing DE.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:08 am
I heard that the Packers are already toying with the idea that Raji can’t play the NT in their 3-4.
Nice. Raji playing DE.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:10 am
I think Joesph is our Backup MLB now. He may start at SLB if he learns to cover, or he can start at MLB if he wins the job from Kirk. Then Kirk can play SLB.
Like I said, it will be an interesting season. IMO
May 7th, 2009 at 11:10 am
I think Joesph is our Backup MLB now. He may start at SLB if he learns to cover, or he can start at MLB if he wins the job from Kirk. Then Kirk can play SLB.
Like I said, it will be an interesting season. IMO
May 7th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 10:55 am
I feel bad for McKenzie, but **** the Patriots and their “A+ draft”
“Pats 3rd round LB out for season”
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-patriots-mckenzie&prov=ap&type=lgns
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Nnamdi21
You are a good dude. I was thinking the same thought when I heard the news.
Imagine working all of your adult life up to that point, high school ball, college ball, practice, lifting weights and all the other necessary time and you finally get your chance to complete your dream and before you sign your contract the injury occurs.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 10:55 am
I feel bad for McKenzie, but **** the Patriots and their “A+ draft”
“Pats 3rd round LB out for season”
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-patriots-mckenzie&prov=ap&type=lgns
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Nnamdi21
You are a good dude. I was thinking the same thought when I heard the news.
Imagine working all of your adult life up to that point, high school ball, college ball, practice, lifting weights and all the other necessary time and you finally get your chance to complete your dream and before you sign your contract the injury occurs.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Dakota,
the Browns found out that Raji couldn’t be a 3-4 NT before the draft when they had him in for a workout. they said he’d be an end there too.
kind of funny that they traded down when they were hurting bad for defensive talent
May 7th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Dakota,
the Browns found out that Raji couldn’t be a 3-4 NT before the draft when they had him in for a workout. they said he’d be an end there too.
kind of funny that they traded down when they were hurting bad for defensive talent
May 7th, 2009 at 11:13 am
now we need to look at FB and a DT if a good one becomes available. IMO
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DT’s
Kindal Moorehead
Darwin Walker
John Thornton
Dewayne Robertson
Langston Moore
Jeff Zgonina
Kenderick Allen
Ellis Wyms
Antwan Lake
Brian Young
Hollis Thomas
La’ Roi Glover
May 7th, 2009 at 11:13 am
now we need to look at FB and a DT if a good one becomes available. IMO
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DT’s
Kindal Moorehead
Darwin Walker
John Thornton
Dewayne Robertson
Langston Moore
Jeff Zgonina
Kenderick Allen
Ellis Wyms
Antwan Lake
Brian Young
Hollis Thomas
La’ Roi Glover
May 7th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Rockstar,
I’ve heard enough, I am calling it right now…Raji is a bust.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Rockstar,
I’ve heard enough, I am calling it right now…Raji is a bust.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:15 am
lol
May 7th, 2009 at 11:15 am
lol
May 7th, 2009 at 11:16 am
There is competition at a lot of positions on our team this year. We have plenty of young talent and they will compete for starting positions and roster spots. This can only make this team hungry to prove themselves, which should = more wins. IMHO
May 7th, 2009 at 11:16 am
There is competition at a lot of positions on our team this year. We have plenty of young talent and they will compete for starting positions and roster spots. This can only make this team hungry to prove themselves, which should = more wins. IMHO
May 7th, 2009 at 11:20 am
I’m calling it right now…Crabby is a bust too.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:20 am
I’m calling it right now…Crabby is a bust too.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:21 am
I only like Thorton out of that entire list.
More players will be released later, then we should make our moves.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:21 am
I only like Thorton out of that entire list.
More players will be released later, then we should make our moves.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:23 am
I’m calling it right now..Dakota was a bust on this year’s draft.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:23 am
I’m calling it right now..Dakota was a bust on this year’s draft.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:25 am
According to NFL rules, because McKenzie was injured in minicamp and had not signed a contract, the Pats must offer him a contract equal to the slot he was drafted. In between the draft pick before and after.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:25 am
According to NFL rules, because McKenzie was injured in minicamp and had not signed a contract, the Pats must offer him a contract equal to the slot he was drafted. In between the draft pick before and after.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:26 am
______Double R,__________________
La’ Roi Glover
Hollis Thomas
John Thornton
Dewayne Robertson
Langston Moore
nice Avial DT list Ilike any of these guys as camp fotter to push fatty…and fatty
R-o,
Im soooooo fast!!!!!! cough cough…..
May 7th, 2009 at 11:26 am
______Double R,__________________
La’ Roi Glover
Hollis Thomas
John Thornton
Dewayne Robertson
Langston Moore
nice Avial DT list Ilike any of these guys as camp fotter to push fatty…and fatty
R-o,
Im soooooo fast!!!!!! cough cough…..
May 7th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Ex
I just read those rules. I also read from NFP, Jack Betcha that if he had a good agent, he would have secured insurance to injury, and it should of been based on his draft status and potential career. The insurance would be exercised when and if he can’t come back from the injury.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Ex
I just read those rules. I also read from NFP, Jack Betcha that if he had a good agent, he would have secured insurance to injury, and it should of been based on his draft status and potential career. The insurance would be exercised when and if he can’t come back from the injury.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Dell,
#520, LMAO
May 7th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Dell,
#520, LMAO
May 7th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Let’s hope the picks before and after signs 3 yr deals with a nice 1st yr reporting bonus.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Let’s hope the picks before and after signs 3 yr deals with a nice 1st yr reporting bonus.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Ex
His potential signing bonus for his slot in the draft in the third round is around $600,000. That should help motivate and rehab the injury for next year.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Ex
His potential signing bonus for his slot in the draft in the third round is around $600,000. That should help motivate and rehab the injury for next year.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:47 am
There was a few comments above that questioned Manny’s blame on a doctor. Let’s recognize that this guy earning over $25 million a year, didn’t see a doctor his agent was familiar with or not question the prescription he was given. I just don’t believe that excuse. This guy has been pampered most of his career and he blames the doctor, come on give us dumb folks out here a break.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:47 am
There was a few comments above that questioned Manny’s blame on a doctor. Let’s recognize that this guy earning over $25 million a year, didn’t see a doctor his agent was familiar with or not question the prescription he was given. I just don’t believe that excuse. This guy has been pampered most of his career and he blames the doctor, come on give us dumb folks out here a break.
May 7th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
You kids are on the old post, not the new one
May 7th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
You kids are on the old post, not the new one
May 8th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Don’t be cruel bloggers…
To that mod/troll when she is on her period because she can get very angry and boot people for selfish inadvertent reasons other than (racial slur derogatory comments patronizing other bloggers).
If you see posts left up that still contain racial slurs and flat out foul language and then a posts gets deleted for no justifiable reason it makes you wonder?
May 8th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Don’t be cruel bloggers…
To that mod/troll when she is on her period because she can get very angry and boot people for selfish inadvertent reasons other than (racial slur derogatory comments patronizing other bloggers).
If you see posts left up that still contain racial slurs and flat out foul language and then a posts gets deleted for no justifiable reason it makes you wonder?
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