Down, set . . . oops
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, May 8th, 2009 at 7:17 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Some highlights from Friday’s second minicamp practice:
– The final tally from two practice sessions over four hours at the Raiders’ minicamp _ 10 center snap fumbles. Bruce Gradkowski led the way with five, Jeff Garcia and four, and JaMarcus Russell, not to be left out, had the grand finale in the second session.
John Wade and Chris Morris were both centers of attention, and not the kind they wanted.
They might want to address that in the next quarterback school.
– The passing game continued to be spotty. Russell, who Cable complimented after the first session, saying he “lit it up” on some routes, hit Chaz Schilens in a narrow window between Jon Alston and Tyvon Branch for a 20-plus yard gain _ his best pass of the second practice.
Other than that, the majority of his completions were on checkdowns to running backs, and numerous short throws over the middle to tight ends, Tony Stewart in particular.
Russell underthrew Darrius Heyward-Bey on a deep sideline pass, with the rookie pushing off of Jason Horton attempting to get open and then having the ball glance off both arms.
Russell overthrew Schilens on a deep sideline pass to his right, and threw behind Heyward-Bey on an out pattern which was nearly intercepted by Chris Johnson. He threw behind Brandon Myers on a reverse roll, a ball which bounced off Tyvon Branch.
One of his only hookups with a wide receiver other than the big play to Schilens was a 15-yard pass to an open Louis Murphy over the middle.
– Schilens was probably the Raiders most impressive receiver through both sessions, but did have a drop in the end zone after getting open between Michael Huff and Horton on a pass from Gradkowski.
– Stanford Routt broke up a pass from Gradkowski intended for Darrius Heyward-Bey along the sideline, spied two reporters and noted, “That’s 4.27, not 4.30,” referring to his 40-yard dash time at the NFL scouting combine and the one posted by Heyward-Bey this year.
– Garcia, who is still getting immersed into the offense and personnel, wasn’t particularly sharp but had two nice throws of note. On one, he made a reverse pivot under pressure, went back toward the pocket, then lofted a touch pass no more than a few yards downfield that caught Justin Fargas on a dead run for a big gain on a spontaneous play.
On a dropback pass, Garcia threw a low liner some 20-plus yard downfield with Todd Watkins catching it on a dive.
– The Raiders second-team defense in the second session lined up with Matt Shaughnessy at right end, Terdell Sands and William Joseph at tackles and Greyson Gunheim at right end. Ricky Brown was the middle linebacker, flanked by David Nixon on the weak side and Slade Norris on the strong sdie. Justin Miller and Routt were the corners, with Mike Mitchell at strong safety and Huff at free safety.
– Defensive end Derrick Burgess watched (stomach flu) watched the second practice with a towel draped over his head, with Zach Miller (sports hernia), Javon Walker (knee), Arman Shields (knee), Samson Satele (shoulder) and Oren O’Neal again missing practice. Also sitting it out were left guard Robert Gallery and backup guard Paul McQuistan for undisclosed reasons.
Murphy who didn’t complete the first practice because of cramps, finished the second session with no problems.
Mark Wilson lined up with the first team at left guard in place of Gallery.
– Working with the athletic training staff on the sideline, O’Neal was making hard cuts and running rope drills with no signs of a limp or pain.
– Heyward-Bey had another one of those “you’re not in college anymore” moments at the beginning of the second practice. Joining the return specialists as Shane Lechler got some work, Heyward-Bey settled under a booming kick by the Pro Bowler, and was startled to to see it fall about five yards from where he was standing.
Rookie free agent Nick Miller had similar issues, with the ball taking a sideways bounce and hitting Heyward-Bey.
– Running plays continued to be run with quickness and apparent precision, although it would take a coach to truly determine the success of the play in a non-contact format.
“We have instructed the defense, once they get in and through it, let them go,” Cable said. “What I want to see is, is there a seam in there? Are the helmets in the right place? Defensively, it’s the same thing, are our helmets in the right place?
While Neal was the big-name acquisition Friday, former Pittsburgh Steeler Gary Russell made some nice runs and has value because Cable believes he can play both halfback and fullback.
Russell, 5-foot-11 and 220 pounds, scored the first touchdown in Pittsburgh’s Super Bowl win over Arizona on a 1-yard run. He was released in a salary cap move and then later released by Cincinnati on April 27 after being claimed off waivers.
“We want to make sure we have enough legs, enough freshness in that group, but you want to bring in good players,” Cable said. “You look at a guy like Russell who scored the first touchdown in the Super Bowl and the nice thing about Gary is that he could probably do both. He’s a bigger guy. He could probably play some fullback or some tailback.”
– The Raiders will practice Saturday at 10:30 a.m. and 4:10 p.m.
– Without addressing his predecessor directly, Cable refuted the notion by Lane Kiffin that fullback Lorenzo Neal was not a match for a zone blocking scheme.
“I think he definitely fits the scheme. The experience he brings can help mold those young fullbacks in there. That guy has proven over time, he probably can run any run scheme in the NFL. Cause he’s been in them all, and been very good. I’m not sure there’s been as good a lead blocker in football maybe in the last 15, 20 years as that guy. And it’s been documented by a lot of people. So I’m glad he’s on our team, I’m glad we got him, and he definitely fits.”
– Mario Henderson and Cornell Green opened as the starting tackles because that’s where they ended the season last year, Cable said during his afternoon press briefing. It’s merely a starting point.
– ESPN is reporting the Raiders have reached agreement with wide receiver Samie Parker on a contract. Javon Walker is out rehabbing from a minor knee surgery the team only recently found out about, and Arman Shields is still not healthy after spending all of last season on I.R. because of a knee injury.
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May 8th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Sweet.
May 8th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
1ST????
May 8th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
NOPE
May 8th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
– Mario Henderson and Cornell Green opened as the starting tackles because that’s where they ended the season last year, Cable said during his afternoon press briefing. It’s merely a starting point.
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Russell must be thrilled.
May 8th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Like the move to get Neal. Brings a world of experience of how to do things the right way. Let’s get to at least 8-8 this year Raiders. Silver and Black for Life!!!!
May 8th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest/0-3-2167/Raiders–Hewyard-Bey–Russell-begin-partnership.html
May 8th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
# jhill Says:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:41 am
DHB, Murphy, JLH, Schillens – locks
Walker, Shields – very likely
The rest – need not apply. There will not be a 6th WR from the Watkins, Holland, etc crowd. Their time here is done.
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Correction…
Shields is done, will most likely either be cut or start on PUP, same goes for Walker…
Watkins now is legitimate 4th WR along with Murphy….
May 8th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
I am a Chaz Schilens fan. He’s got great hands and amazing intensity.
May 8th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Russell has 4 months to get in sync with his WR. Should we worry about the drops now? No, in 3 months, maybe, game day, uh oh.
May 8th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Gary Russell is a decent short yardage, big back. Not sure how the Raiders keep him if Neal and O’Neal are ready to go at FB and McFadden, Bush and Fargas are locked in at HB. I guess if someone is traded or not healthy he could stick around, but Rankin is in the mix there too.
Samie Parker is an interesting name to hear. I remember watching this guy with KC a few years back at the end of his 2nd season and I really thought he was going to break out. Never happened though. He’s quick though. He’s a guy that few fans have probably ever heard of, but he could surprise.
May 8th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
DarthPirate Says:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
I am a Chaz Schilens fan. He’s got great hands and amazing intensity.
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Absolutely agree. He’s also like 6-4 and runs in the 4.3s.
Schilens is actually one of the reasons I don’t feel too stupid about being pumped up about Michael Mitchell based only on YouTube highlights and workout measurables. I remember after the 2008 draft I watched Schilens’ college highlights and he really popped off the screen in a similar way to Mitchell, plus he also had the measurables. Then he went out and exceeded all expectations as a 7th round pick and flashed some real ability. Now he’s pretty much locked in to start in Year 2.
May 8th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Jamarcus looks as if he hardly worked out in the off-season. I bet he’s walking about 280lbs! I know, I know! some of us here dont care about his weight too much but it’s shows the lack of discipline. Unless he has an eating disorder. But really, its proof that he lacks discipline. 250+ or 300+ lbs what does it matter right?
May 8th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
I’ve heard that Russell suffers from EEIFS, an eating disorder.
May 8th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
No one should be worried based on anything in this minicamp. Obsess on Russells weight if you want, it doesn’t matter.
Only thing people should be worried about is if Russell or our receivers get hurt (knock on wood).
May 8th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
“Working with the athletic training staff on the sideline, O’Neal was making hard cuts and running rope drills with no signs of a limp or pain.”
YES!! That is huge news. Thanks Jerry!
May 8th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
It’s mid May minicamp and already the boobirds are clearing their throats.
Isn’t that why we have these minicamps to get sharp?
If he’s expected to be razor sharp now why have them?
He’s a young QB going into his second season. If he picks up where he left off we’ll be fine.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Jerry just can’t stand that an Al Davis pick especially a QB might be a success. The fact that the 49ers Alex Smith is a bust botherss him that the Raiders might have gotten that right.
He would love nthing other than Russell tocomeup short so he can harken back to Kiffin and say at least he was right about that. He will never stop nitpicking Russell I gaurantee you.
If Russell succeeds he no longer can say Al Davis can’t biuld a team. Because he knows and so does everyone else that Al took Russell against Kiffin’s wishes. No way he wants to admit that Al Davis was right.
So if he has to use the wieght issue he will but he will always find something no matter how petty.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
And all the idiots that choose to make fun over the kids weight or smarts are just that idiots that can’t get pass the fact that someone that doesn’t look like them should be a success. You want Matt Ryans and Brady Quinns or else you’re not comfortable.
Watching a huge black man play the toughest position in sports just doesn’t sit well with you. So you have to rididcule him to make yourself feel better. You’d actually rather have a lesser talent as long as looked like what you feel comfortable with.
It’s OK we know Russell doesn’t fit the profile but he’s the QB of the Oakland Raiders wether you bigots like it or not.
So stick that where it doesn’t fit.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Dude, Jerry is very sly with it but to those of us that recognize such things, we can see through the crap.
The prevailing opinion in here is that Russell doesn’t work at his craft. Guess where that opinion emminates from he constant enuendos. The emphasis is always on what he DIDN”T do NEVER what he does do.
Dogging him would be too obvious that he doesn’t approve. So he nitpicks. These are the first two practices of the off season but all he focuses on is Russell’s shortcomings. Sure he’s not sharp who is at this point. I listen to Cable who is a straight shooter and if the coaches are pleased that’s all I care about.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
You just defeated yourself. You have nothing to say.
I just said to please knock off the racial stuff. It is so old and tired. Why can’t we be grownups and just be people.
I would bet my kidneys that Jerry voted for a black man to be president. So if he wants to bash a multi-million dollar, #1 overall, unproven QB who happens to be black, you need to let it go.
I think the people who are always looking for racism are the ones that need to check themselves.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
I have to give it up to david white and his little twitter thing…he had the most insight on the raider camp today, sorry jerry!
May 8th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Sweep,
Priest is the biggest POS on this board. He comes on and says stupid, made up garbage and when someone calls his b.s. he runs.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
You don’t have to look for racism in this country because it constantly hits you in the face.
This country was born and biult on racism………period so don’t try to act as though we’re pass it. Because we’re no where near it.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
By the way, how do you know if i am not black too? Or brown or yellow?
Is it only white people who can be racist?
May 8th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
It’s EASY.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
Priest,
Just say your not gonna answer and we can move on.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
And it’s all whiteys fault, right? Have some dignity.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
So you have a supernatural gift that we don’t?
That is awesome.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Dude who’s running? and you’re so freakin’ shallow it doesn’t require response most of the time.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
Priest more than likely= black, trailer park, poor, blames everyone but himself for all his problems.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
answer what? maybe you can’t comprehend the amnswer.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
So……. you gonna answer or what?
May 8th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Where in the blog does Jerry take shots at Russell?
May 8th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Weak Dude! very weak.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
lets just agree that JRuss wont have a six pack…ever…
May 8th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Liar
May 8th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
I just put in 50 hours and spent an evening with the inlaws.
This is the icing on the cake.
May 8th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
Is this really happening?
May 8th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
I should be to come in here and read some of the stupid comments made in here.
But maybe I expect too much from you all. There are however those I enjoy reading but it’s rare and few and far between.
I just shouldn’t read your comments…….simple as that.
May 8th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Im just trying to goad the douche into answering my question. Its obvious he cant so, whatever.
May 8th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
At least we dont tell outright lies.
May 8th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
It was answered an hour ago………..but again I expect too much.
Let it go brotha it aint worth it. It was obviously over your head.
May 8th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
priesttj Says:
May 8th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
I should be to come in here and read some of the stupid comments made in here.
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What? English please.
May 8th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
I will be to stopping. The comments in here are not the always good.
May 8th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Adios, I obviously missed the football fans that actually are Raider fans.
Be back when it smells better.
May 8th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Thats what I thought, boy.
May 8th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Dude,
This feels like a out of body experience.
Should I walk towards the light?
May 8th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
My thought on the subject, been reading for about an hour:
BHP: a lot of people are not her open minded to the idea of a Black QB!! I really don’t think sweep is one of them. IMHO
Meet is hard on JR, is it due to race?? I can’t tell you!!
Sweep: you have to agree that a lot of people includinw some of the Nation don’t like JR based on Race, and that gets old after a lone time. I’m not black so I cant tell you what it feels like, but I do know that BHP ,KK, and a few others I know are hurt by that. Again IMHO
Dude: you are just Dude, and I like it. lol
I hope that helps!! lol
May 8th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
He said adios…………He’s a Mexican.
I knew it!
May 8th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Very open minded, sorry.
May 8th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Anybody else see the pic of Russell standing in the background in the red jersey? Whoa!
May 8th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Meet: Jerry. Including, sorry. It’s late. lol
May 9th, 2009 at 12:43 am
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May 9th, 2009 at 3:38 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
May 9th, 2009 at 3:39 am
6:38 here in west-central fl.Cup-o-joe and a bowl 2 go!!!
May 9th, 2009 at 3:54 am
I know its only a mini but…
Man those short lil passes,got me thinking
No doubt Jmac can play the vertical game,but seems 2 have trouble on the lil passes
Garcia is very good at the lil passes but cant play the vertical game.
I f any one of us got 30mill,I am POSITIVE any of us would practice morning-noon and night 2 elevate our game,in this case the lil passes.I think Dmunoz26 has every right 2B worried about this part of Jmac’s game or his lack there of.
1.Holds out
2.over-weight that affects his foot-work,as explained by CC.
3.Many times in real games Jmac could NOT hit the “lil” pass and a drive would stall
4.Well its next year already and he aint done a lick-o-practice on the “lil” passes
5.SPD-Short Pass Dysfunction has set in right next 2 complacency,this desease goes hand in hand
6.Only way 2 cure it is 2 light a bon-fire under Jmac’s azz.But How???
May 9th, 2009 at 4:04 am
– Garcia, who is still getting immersed into the offense and personnel, wasn’t particularly sharp but had two nice throws of note. On one, he made a reverse pivot under pressure, went back toward the pocket, then lofted a touch pass no more than a few yards downfield that caught Justin Fargas on a dead run for a big gain on a spontaneous play.
For a mere pennence Fargas is prolly as I speak is working on his recieving skills.Jablubber is prolly eating a doughnut =)
May 9th, 2009 at 4:58 am
and another “episode” by the donkey
May 9th, 2009 at 6:15 am
What’s up fellas, I don’t even read Dmunoz post 4eva when you post 100 times my sources tell me the bush for 85 deal is gonna get done today.
May 9th, 2009 at 6:18 am
No mention of JLH.
Why?
May 9th, 2009 at 6:28 am
I hope not I wanna see Bush blow it up this year.And who would trade a 2nd year back 4 a 10 year WR
May 9th, 2009 at 6:32 am
Morning Nation,
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4evaRaider Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 6:28 am
I hope not I wanna see Bush blow it up this year.And who would trade a 2nd year back 4 a 10 year WR
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A WR who wants $8 Mil a year. LMFAO! No F’n way!
May 9th, 2009 at 6:34 am
anyone having trouble posting??? the 408 cant post 4 some reason
May 9th, 2009 at 6:40 am
4evaRaider Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 6:34 am
anyone having trouble posting??? the 408 cant post 4 some reason
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Hope he didn’t get on the mod’s bad side by discussing the time of month. LOL
May 9th, 2009 at 6:43 am
oh the bleedin mod lol
May 9th, 2009 at 6:44 am
come back here and I’ll bite your bleedin leg off!!!
May 9th, 2009 at 6:56 am
—”Giants first round pick Hakeem Nicks and fellow rookie receiver Ramses Barden reportedly “caught everything in sight” on the first day of the rookie minicamp. Hauling in passes against no-name defenders might not be worth bragging about, but the better the Giants feel about their young targets, the less they may be inclined to make a deal for a veteran wide out. Expect both receivers to enter training camp in reserve roles, but opportunities for playing time exist”—
May 9th, 2009 at 7:01 am
thats gonna be a hell-of-a-tandem 4 the Giants,imo
May 9th, 2009 at 7:05 am
Good to see that earlier foolishness has stopped. I thought the registration process was supposed to put an end to such drivel.
Please, no more Ocho Whatever for Bush talk. Why would we want a selfish kook whose production has been declining the last few years? He’s just another part of the problems with Team Criminal.
As for Russell, I’m not completely sold on him, but another season or two are required before we know what he’s got. Drafting a QB that high is almost always a gamble. So many factors affect their development. I wanted to see us draft CJ first, then get Trent Edwards with our second pick. Hopefully, I’ll be glad we took the big guy by season’s end.
Didn’t know whether to laugh or cry when I read about Walker. This guy just doesn’t seem to have the mental or physical toughness required to play this game. Too bad about Shields’ knee. Hopefully, he can get through this and not be another career ended by injury before it even started. Doesn’t look good right now though.
The extra mini-camp coverage is great. Us Raiders junkies will get a good fix for awhile!
May 9th, 2009 at 7:14 am
News of Javon Walker’s recent knee surgery as sent Ocho Cinco trade talks into maximum overdrive. My source tells me that no. 85 will soon be donning the silver and black. Look for a trade to happen before training camp opens. A most likely trade scenario will involve disgruntled RB Michael Bush and a 2010 draft pick. Stay tuned for breaking news.
May 9th, 2009 at 7:16 am
Bush and a pick??? If Big Al is that retarded,well I just dont want 2 think about it
May 9th, 2009 at 7:20 am
My source tells me that the pick will be a 4th rounder that could turn into a second, based upon production.
May 9th, 2009 at 7:26 am
My sources tell me that there no trade has ever been dicussed and will not be discussed. Only an internet rumor that has no basis in fact whatsoever. lmfao
May 9th, 2009 at 7:26 am
that’s discussed
May 9th, 2009 at 7:27 am
One thing after another wit dis guy
May 9th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Donkey, or no donkey, the Walker signing was the best example that Al Davis is now a complete momo.
May 9th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Everybody knows EXLA will have the better source =)
May 9th, 2009 at 7:30 am
I dunno,Big Al is world-famous 4 giving players another shot,in case you hav’nt been paying attention
May 9th, 2009 at 7:34 am
Al Davis is like that senile old man who lives down the street, and who all the kids take of advantage of.
May 9th, 2009 at 7:38 am
I could see Big Al giving 85 his last pay-day but NOT 4 Bush
May 9th, 2009 at 7:39 am
DMunoz 26 Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 7:34 am
Al Davis is like that senile old man who lives down the street, and who all the kids take of advantage of.
I see you’re euphemism but no he’s not
May 9th, 2009 at 7:45 am
couldnt we just claim Toooomer???
May 9th, 2009 at 7:46 am
I dont post much but has anyone seen raiderbeat.com that blog is sad all he does is copy jerry’s posts how can this guy wexler do that crap lol, jerry your blog is the only good one even that guy from sac copies your stuff… unreal
May 9th, 2009 at 7:48 am
Another foot in the mouth post from OakGlenn..
LMAO
# Oakglenn Says:
April 29th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Lo plays a different style of FB than we play here. He would not fit the scheme. Unfortunately.
May 9th, 2009 at 7:49 am
DMunoz 26 is the one always talking about stupid trades
DMunoz26 is the one always talking about russell’s weight
May 9th, 2009 at 7:51 am
did anyone see top 10 football myths on nfln yesterday there were 2 parts that got me a little mad
1. when somebody said something about russell and
2. when they were talking about the prevent defense
the rest was pretty funny though
May 9th, 2009 at 7:56 am
nope
May 9th, 2009 at 7:57 am
no.1 was that the prevent defense prevents you from winning games and the whole time i was thinking rob ryan
May 9th, 2009 at 8:14 am
sorry guys.. I think I started that little riff last night between (post.#12-#82) STL. Dude and Priesttj… I just wanted to get an opinion on JHustle weight. I seen him on Chronicle Live being interviewed by Papa and Jamarcus looked a bit husky… especially in the face… did anyone see it too? thats all I was asking. IMO, it’s obvious that he either has weight issues or lacks offseason discipline. And it brings into question if he has it takes to be a winning QB.
May 9th, 2009 at 8:18 am
My reliable inside sources say that DMunoz 26 makes up all his inside info and no one in the Raider organization has ever heard of him. LMFAO
May 9th, 2009 at 8:19 am
I guess off-season REALLY measn off-season 2 jmac
May 9th, 2009 at 8:34 am
that didnt deserve an ejection though and im a laker fan
May 9th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Kobe did what he needed to do with that elbow. He got into Artest’s head and he’s not totally zoned into BB.
May 9th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Look, I know it’s only May, but I have two SERIOUS observations I would like to discuss.
1. JaMarcus looks FAT. Dude’s face looks fatter, and he just doesn’t look in shape. This is an issue, as it questions his desire and leadership. Garcia sprinting to drills with JaMarcus lagging behind? WTF.
2. Yvonne Walker. CUT THIS FUGGING BUM NOW. This guy is a complete piece of sh1t. Get rid of his insubordinate azz now. How can a player have surgery and not notify their team? Dude wants to be cut. Maybe Al is trying to stick it to him by making him play. Either way, this guy in a tool, and I will NEVER support him or be a fan of his even if he does wear the Silver and Black. He is not a Raider, and NEVER will be a Raider.
May 9th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Jerry’s posts may seem “nit-picky” because that is basically what we have asked/forced him to be. If you read the article by Bill Williamson in the link from BUSH29, you will feel your a$$ being pumped full of sunshine.
If Jerry tried that here we would call him out for some real news, who’s overweight…who’s dropping balls…who should we look for improvement from….who’s getting more reps than who…etc.
May 9th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Personally, I think Jerry wishes he worked in New England instead of the Bay Area.
May 9th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Doubt that he would find Belichek or Craft anymore forthcoming than Al Davis though.
May 9th, 2009 at 9:21 am
My thoughts…
Schilens will end up being the #1 WR, probably with Higgins #2, at least until DHB has to time to establish his confidence. Kind of disconcerting to hear him say, “Too bad you can’t redshirt here” Does not sound like he has a lot of confidence. I would not be surprised to see Murphy making a more consistent career at this point.
JR is a physical specimen but does he have the head to succeed in the NFL? As we all know it takes a lot of committment to develope the leadership and work ethic to succeed at this level. One more of the big reasons I see the play of the “O” line, particularly the run game playing a huge role.
Speaking of which, Satele has a shoulder injury which will set him back and the entire “O” line as the ZBS requires a lot more time to be successful. Satele at center was a huge mistake as he is just not strong enough nor will his shoulder allow him to engage at the level he will need to fight off the bigger DTs. This means the critical short yardage gains near the goal line will loom ever so big. Oh well, Seabass will get plenty of work this year.
This year should convince the rest of the nay sayers that the level of talent needed on the lines is not even close. Boy am I tired of the Raider bashing but until Al figures out that the skill positions are nothing without playoff calibre lines, I will have to dig a deeper fox hole to shield the flak from the Raider haters.
May 9th, 2009 at 9:25 am
I will go on record as being against the Bush for 85 trade.
That’s almost as bad as “Bush for President”
May 9th, 2009 at 9:32 am
RDT you do know its fake right
May 9th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Mad Road Dog…
I totally agree, but I dont think you will get much flak from the haters… only the Al worshipers can disagree with you post… Im a doubter not a hater, and I have HUGE doubts about this season….
May 9th, 2009 at 9:38 am
the mod just deleted alot of post but kept all the dumb stuff from last night i dont even know which ones he deleted
May 9th, 2009 at 9:39 am
glad to hear it’s fake….it should be
May 9th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Deja vu?
On the one hand it is only the first mini-camp. On the other hand, in a passing drill they should be completing 95% of their passes. Last year it was the same “they’ll step it up” optimism. They didn’t get accurate until week 15 of the regular season.
This isn’t an issue of “being in sync” with new receviers when he overthrows guys who are running the route correctly.
For all the strong arm talk, Russell rarely completed a pass over 15 yards last year. The long TDs by JLH and Miller were catch-and-run short & medium passes.
The guy has accuracy issues he needs to get lined up.
May 9th, 2009 at 9:56 am
By the end of this season I would like to see Russell progressing to be an OBVIOUS franchise QB.
If not, viable alternative measures being taken (ie. trade)
I want to endorse Russell…but so far I cannot.
May 9th, 2009 at 10:00 am
# Mistabrown Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 7:48 am
Another foot in the mouth post from OakGlenn..
LMAO
# Oakglenn Says:
April 29th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Lo plays a different style of FB than we play here. He would not fit the scheme. Unfortunately.
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In the article above, Jerry describes how they wanted to bring Neal in but Kiffin did not think he would fit the scheme. Cable thought Lo’s game would work or he could tweak the offense to fit Lo, and Lo sold Al Davis on what he brings to the table. Again, what I said, was right. The Raiders just opted to give him a try here. Of course, you have to be able to read at a third grade level to know that. Something mistabrown obviously can’t do.
May 9th, 2009 at 10:00 am
RDT by the end of his second year starting what exactly do you want to see and there are too many variables like what if the oline sucks still and he doesnt have any time to throw
May 9th, 2009 at 10:04 am
99. Ha! True dat!
May 9th, 2009 at 10:05 am
NFL SECURITY CALLED TO RAIDERS PRACTICE
NFL security reportedly was called to the Raiders locker room at the request of the team’s starting QB JaMarcus Russell. Russell told security he overheard two of his teammates plotting to “roll” him after practice. He felt the pair was planning to rob him.
Security personnel spoke with the two players and determined the whole incident was a misunderstanding. Appearantly, Russell misunderstood what his teammate meant when he told the other player, “Hey, after practice let’s roll a fatty.”
May 9th, 2009 at 10:05 am
104. Ever astute as always coach. Thanks and have a good day!
May 9th, 2009 at 10:06 am
108. And then this…*sigh*
May 9th, 2009 at 10:06 am
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May 9th, 2009 at 10:07 am
he should react properly to all those situations in a way which maximizes his and/or the team’s potential for success…take what is given, anticipate, overcome.
As for himself, I’m afraid that like many Super-talented athletes he always had an easy time at being the best amongst his peers and didn’t have to work at it. Now that he is at a level where his peers are all super-talented and you have to work hard 24/7…he doesn’t know how or have the work habits (ie Lorenzo Neal)
May 9th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Russell will get his footwork down and get in sync with his wides.
Fortunately, we’re going to be running all over teams so it won’t be paramount most of the time.
May 9th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Sweet, Nope, Liar, It’s easy, and read more are acceptable 1-2 word posts that the mods let remain.
That’s cool to know when I wonder why mine get deleted
May 9th, 2009 at 10:09 am
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 9th, 2009 at 10:10 am
COW
didn’t want to laugh…but I did.
May 9th, 2009 at 10:17 am
COW,
LMAO
May 9th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Cut Arman Shields, hes just taking up space…
May 9th, 2009 at 10:21 am
right after Javon Walker Raj
May 9th, 2009 at 10:24 am
YEP RIGHT AFTER THE donkey
May 9th, 2009 at 10:24 am
cut Walker – sign Toomer…at least it would upgrade our “class” level
May 9th, 2009 at 10:24 am
# Dude Says:
May 8th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Sweep,
Priest is the biggest POS on this board. He comes on and says stupid, made up garbage and when someone calls his b.s. he runs.
Dude :aha: You’ve seen the light
May 9th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Dude is talking to himself
May 9th, 2009 at 10:26 am
has there ever been a medi-photo of Armans knee??? Like WDF?????????????
May 9th, 2009 at 10:27 am
priesttj Says:
May 8th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
I should be to come in here and read some of the stupid comments made in here.
But maybe I expect too much from you all.
Who died and made buttholeprick
god 
May 9th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Is priesttj the former BlackHolePriest?
May 9th, 2009 at 10:30 am
# Sweep The Leg Says:
May 8th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
priesttj Says:
May 8th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
I should be to come in here and read some of the stupid comments made in here.
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What? English please.
buttholeprick
thinks he IS speaking English 
May 9th, 2009 at 10:31 am
# Random Drug Tester Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Is priesttj the former BlackHolePriest?
The one and only
May 9th, 2009 at 10:33 am
read in context it made sense
another of your annoying troll traits is to criticize everybody’s grammar or jump on typo’s
who died and mad Trolls 35 class teacher?
May 9th, 2009 at 10:36 am
What do you have to say about the Raider’s, this year’s team and players?
Leave out the “Al Davis sucks”, “Al must retire”, and our Won/lost record for the past 6 years please.
May 9th, 2009 at 10:36 am
another of your annoying troll traits is to criticize everybody’s grammar or jump on typo’s
What the fock are you talking about
May 9th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 10:30 am
# Sweep The Leg Says:
May 8th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
priesttj Says:
May 8th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
I should be to come in here and read some of the stupid comments made in here.
————
What? English please.
buttholeprick thinks he IS speaking English
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It was only 10 minutes ago Troll…are you more senile than you say Al is?
May 9th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Senile
Who are you calling senile 
May 9th, 2009 at 10:42 am
yawn
May 9th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Catch up to all of you later.
Go Raiders!
May 9th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Yeah, I AM bored
May 9th, 2009 at 10:44 am
time to tweet
May 9th, 2009 at 10:45 am
2 seasons ago the atl falcons were in the same position we’ve been in the last 6 seasons. So is Matt Ryan a much better QB in the NFL? He didnt win as much JRuss in college, so what is the issue? Are you quick to say that there run offense is better then ours… i beg to differ, look at the stats. Would you take Turner over DmC or Bush, how about Roddy White, how much better is he then our WR core? White didnt show up until last year? or Tony G… instead of Zmiller? IMHO, we have the best of the comparisons but why isnt Jamarcus not producing??? I know, I know… some here will propose their Oline is that much better. Really? Because our line was way better in comparison a year before last (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2007/opp.htm) and not too far behind last year either! So what is the deal breaker? IMO… The quarterback. Its evident that Jamarcus has a cannon attached to his arm but does he have the intangibles to become a winning QB? I dont want to give up on him but it’s year 3 and Im becoming more and more impatient with his progress. When your boss publicly announces that you need a “mentor” to show you what it “takes”, it means something… like he maybe lacks discipline or desire. Is he content with the Millions of dollars to play football and isnt worried about what the fans say? Well he should!
May 9th, 2009 at 10:47 am
still yet to see an opinion from you regarding the Raiders that is supported by observations or documented facts that in anyway suggests you are a Raider fan and belong or have a place on this blog.
Try a “key-boarding skills attack” or “character-assassination” board to hone your sand-box debating skills.
May 9th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Raiderrej
you are correct that there are many “red flags”, Russell does have all the tools to be great, but there are some signals to cause worry.
Lots of guys have had the tools:
Jeff George
Art Schlichster
Todd Marinovich
Ryan Leaf
Rick Mirer
Heath Shuler
and so on…
May 9th, 2009 at 10:54 am
raiderrej coaching play calling stability and their oline and defense was way better than ours last year are some things that come to mind
May 9th, 2009 at 10:55 am
# Random Drug Tester Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Is priesttj the former BlackHolePriest?
___________________________________________________
Yup… someone “stole” his moniker =)
May 9th, 2009 at 10:55 am
oh, and
Michael Vick
Vince Young
just to be politically correct
May 9th, 2009 at 10:57 am
16yearfan
good points too
that’s why we wait to see how this season turns out. Our coaching staff has been upgraded IMHO.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:02 am
just curious….
Who was the QB when you first became a Raider (fan)?
Me: Daryl “The Mad Bomber” Lamonica!
May 9th, 2009 at 11:07 am
What’s ip Nation.
And now, back to twitter.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Cotton Fitz
May 9th, 2009 at 11:08 am
I was 5
May 9th, 2009 at 11:09 am
I mean Cotton Davidson
May 9th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Cotton Davidson? was he the 1st ever Raider QB…lol
May 9th, 2009 at 11:11 am
My father was a huge fan of Lamonica, and that was the only Raider player that my dad talked about.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Jeff Hostetler
May 9th, 2009 at 11:13 am
David white has the best coveerage of minicamp.https://twitter.com/bydavidwhite.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:14 am
https://twitter.com/bydavidwhite
May 9th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Blanda was back-up by that time and the Place-kicker
May 9th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Hoss was a tough QB
May 9th, 2009 at 11:15 am
I miss talking Raiders with my Dad!! The only players he really knew were Lamonica, Tatum, and Fred. lol
May 9th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Kenny “The Snake” Stabler was my favourite though…on Defense it was Lester “The Molester” with “The Assassin” a close 2nd.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:19 am
My dad was a Raider fan because he liked Al Davis…so do I.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Me 2
May 9th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Lamonica could play the vertical game…that’s for sure
May 9th, 2009 at 11:23 am
My 2 Favorite Raider Players are ThecAssassin and Atkinson. Dude still calls Swan Soft. I love it!!!
May 9th, 2009 at 11:23 am
My 2 Favorite Raider Players are The Assassin and Atkinson. Dude still calls Swan Soft. I love it!!!
May 9th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Hayes and Haynes were unbeatable
I hope this Mitchell guy becomes all that he can be
May 9th, 2009 at 11:26 am
I’m a big fan of AL Davis.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:27 am
hoss then jeff george
May 9th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Crazy Al sure does it his way…hope he has one last hurrah left in him
May 9th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Strong took one in the Face Mask. lol
May 9th, 2009 at 11:30 am
does not seem like Frantz is getting any reps at MLB
May 9th, 2009 at 11:32 am
ammie Parker is garbage. Why are we bringing in any receivers anyway. We should take a look at MLB from the Rams and some DTs.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:33 am
sammi parker on a tryout basis..no contract yet
May 9th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Random Drug Tester Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 11:02 am
just curious….
Who was the QB when you first became a Raider (fan)?
Me: Daryl “The Mad Bomber” Lamonica!
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97″ jeff goerge not 2006 raider invite jeff george… i also like the hoss but, I know im not from the super bowl raiders but ive still been a raider fan since 95″
May 9th, 2009 at 11:34 am
because dhb chaz ,jlh arent a starting 3 in the nfl..wheres your chain mover the veteran??
May 9th, 2009 at 11:35 am
He has one more.
offense:
Gallery
JR
Miller
Mario
DMC
DHB
Defense:
Nnamdi
Kirk
TH
T Scott
Branch
Mitchell
I like where Al is going with this, and next year we can add a few Linemen. Al will make it happen.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Javon Walker in Green Bay helped my fantasy team win a championship one year and I really hoped he would turn out good for us.
However, I now think he is undeserving of a football uniform and should be cut yesterday.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:37 am
I forgot to add M Bush.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:38 am
If Parker cold move the chaons K.C. would not have let him go. Dude is not that good.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:38 am
chains sorry
May 9th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Next year, we should draft D line and O line in the first 3 RDs. Then the team will be ready fir a SB run again. IMHO
May 9th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Raider O
I would really like to see Michael Bush on your list. Lots of guys were talking about him before his draft year and what a steal he would be for whoever drafted him. Did a cart-wheel when we grabbed him in the 4th.
Tom Cable: Just let him play! and not at Fullback!
May 9th, 2009 at 11:39 am
For, sorry.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Hellsbells Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 11:32 am
ammie Parker is garbage. Why are we bringing in any receivers anyway. We should take a look at MLB from the Rams and some DTs.
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maybe cause after yesterday’s practice they saw something we didnt.. like we dont have any productive receivers on the team??? just a thought
May 9th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Im not saying parker is the Answer, but look on who we are depending on , dhb, chaz, jlh…thats a scray thought…ohh wait jonothan hollan is catching everything in site…we’re saved….Holt was the answer…Bring in marvin harrison
May 9th, 2009 at 11:41 am
RDT,
Read post 177. lol
May 9th, 2009 at 11:43 am
dhb is dropping passes in practice!!!
May 9th, 2009 at 11:44 am
It is deeply unsettling that Russell is having his same old accuracy issues. I bet the Manning bros could roll out of a dead sleep and not mis fire one pass in training camp. I hate to say it, but I’m afraid that Russell sucks. Accuracy should be the LAST thing an NFL QB has to wory about. They need to wory about their reads, their timing and the protection around them, but once all that falls into place the accuracy should come automatically. I have a feeling Russell is going to lose his job after this year.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:44 am
RDT,
That year I thought he will go in the 2nd Due to his injury, but to get him in the 4th!!! I was going crazy when we drafted him.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:44 am
.185
my thoughts exaclty… who do we really have?
May 9th, 2009 at 11:44 am
” two straights drop passes with no one covering him in one on none drills” Ohh boy.,..Bring in marvin harrison…al!!
May 9th, 2009 at 11:47 am
DHB had 2 drops, he is a bust!!! lol
Wait, it’s comming!!!
LMAO
May 9th, 2009 at 11:48 am
See, it started!!!
LMAO
May 9th, 2009 at 11:51 am
MM just got beat by an URFA, he is a bust too!!!
LMAO
May 9th, 2009 at 11:52 am
I think Bush is a starter in the mould of Michael Turner, Brandon Jacobs and others. Then throw DMAC around the ends or out for passes, DHB and others deep, Miller in the middle, and make the Defense cover the whole field.
Simple really.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:52 am
” undrafted tight end chris oneill beats m mitchell over the middle. damn AL DAVIS!..EVERYBOYD GOT Happy with mitchell u tube video…ha!
May 9th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Voldemort Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 11:44 am
It is deeply unsettling that Russell is having his same old accuracy issues. I bet the Manning bros could roll out of a dead sleep and not mis fire one pass in training camp. I hate to say it, but I’m afraid that Russell sucks. Accuracy should be the LAST thing an NFL QB has to wory about. They need to wory about their reads, their timing and the protection around them, but once all that falls into place the accuracy should come automatically. I have a feeling Russell is going to lose his job after this year.
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you said a lot of what some people might be thinking and are scared to say… I for one, disagree solely based on the fact that I still have faith.. so lets hope your not right on this.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:53 am
sign M harrison!!!
May 9th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Mario looking good!!!
May 9th, 2009 at 11:54 am
yep just sign in 2 twitter
May 9th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Sure hope Henderson can hold down LT, think Barnes will be a very good right tackle.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:55 am
LMAO
It started!!!
That’s was really fast!!!!
May 9th, 2009 at 11:56 am
That was.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Mario looking good huh? Any mention of Joseph so far? twitter website blocked at work
May 9th, 2009 at 11:57 am
No mention that I have seen. Hope he gets a shot at MLB or strong side. Not sure he has the speed to play outside.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:58 am
are we losing against Air?
May 9th, 2009 at 11:58 am
204 ^
nope.
May 9th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Is Green still in at RT. We need to get rid of this guy. Maybe keep him as a back-up. Get Barnes out there. Hope Sheilds is near ready to play.
May 9th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Nessy becoming a solid base end, F Joseph becoming our MLB, Sands improving, and DHB becoming sure handed are the things I’m really hopin for
May 9th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
What’s up Men?
May 9th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
You guys need to relax about DHB. it is the second day he has ever caught passes from JRuss. He’ll be fine.
May 9th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Raider beat says Schilens will improve and so far is the best WR
May 9th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Murphy’s got cramps
May 9th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
I guess our expectations of people being payed a gazillion dollars to throw and catch could to at least be able to throw and catch are too high.
May 9th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Murphy’s got cramps
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So does my girlfriend but I still make her run routes!!!
May 9th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
chris morris and ekejiuba are fighting FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
Get the teacher.
May 9th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
believe it or not….I am sure Larry Fitzgerald, Chad Johnson, Randy Moss, Steve Smith, etc. all drop some balls in practice. We are just spoiled by having a journalist on Twitter giving us minute by minute updates.
May 9th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Chris morris and Ike Ekujuiba mix it up,1st tiff of camp!!!
May 9th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
I’m worried, Zach Miller had surgery for sports hernia? Didn’t that keep J Porter out for almost a season & McNabb several weeks?
May 9th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
oooooooooops
May 9th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
yay, 2 back up players are fighting, geeeesh
May 9th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
you know…if I was being Nationally ridiculed for being picked #7 overall and not having good hands, I would make very sure I caught every pass intended for me in my first exposure to scrutiny, and even some not intended for me just for good measure.
But that’s just me.
May 9th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
There’s plenty of time for him to heal. He will be ready easily for training camp.
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# RaiderTW Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
I’m worried, Zach Miller had surgery for sports hernia? Didn’t that keep J Porter out for almost a season & McNabb several weeks?
May 9th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Running zone coverage now, chris johnson with the pass defense.
May 9th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Chaz
May 9th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
is Jerry’s blog closed for the Twitter Season?
May 9th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
chris johnson on another pass breakup. This time a jump ball with Chaz. oh and McFadden dropped a ball, he obviously sucks now too, right?
May 9th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
DarthPirate is giving us second hand tweets…lol
May 9th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Bring on Walter, lmao
May 9th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
no he doesn’t suck yet….but I am willing to bet that Lorenzo Neal will probably tell him that bad habits in practice lead to bad performances at game time.
Our team needs successful veteran leadership to tell them how a winner behaves and practices to become a winner.
Javon probably thinks it’s OK to drop a few in practice.
May 9th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Does anyone know the beginning of the practices for this weekend?
May 9th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
RDT,
Agreed on Neal’s leadership…
Javon needs to be put on inactive injury list….get his Cancerous butt out of site.
I’m not saying they should be happy about dropped balls….it’s just not the end of the world. There was a time when we would have no clue what was going on at practices. There is so much coverage, that the media has to make up sh!t just to fill space.
May 9th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
you know what.. its saturday… why am i sitting in front of my computer waiting for updates and reading response??? WTF
May 9th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
i guess its cause i cant find anyone in earshot of me to talkshop on Raiders ball!
May 9th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
I hate twitter too, but I have to admit this use of it is pretty cool.
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# RaiderTW Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
DarthPirate is giving us second hand tweets…lol
May 9th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Raiderrej
All I can do…One son is playing GTA IV on the XBox and the other is playing CSI on his laptop…I get the computer and the blog…cause it is thunder and lightning outside or else we would be outside playing catch with the frisbee or football. And laps for anybody who dropped one LOL
May 9th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Gradkowski is apparently looking terrible.
May 9th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
he’s in mid-season form then
May 9th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Morning practice is over. Hurrah!
May 9th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
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Random Drug Tester Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
he’s in mid-season form then
May 9th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
he’s in mid-season form then
LOLOLOLLOLOOLOLLO
May 9th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
we are all-in with Russell…no injuries please
May 9th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
I agree RDT, the last thing we need is a blown knee. This team doesn’t have the depth at a lot of positions to handle that.
May 9th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Yup…draft some more 1st stringers next year…then backups the year after that.
May 9th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
231. May be right about Javon.
He’s more of a distraction than a benefit by far in his short tenure with the Raiders and this latest surgery, combined with his ankle injury, almost guarantee he’ll be out of shape come the start of the season.
Oakland cut ties and bit the bullet with Wilson and Hall maybe its time on the other side of the ball.
I still hold out hope he can make meaningful contributions in 09′ but there comes a point where you’ve got to cut bait.
May 9th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Hoss….
Man I remember seeing this for the first time when i was a kid. Still gives me chills! My lifes never be the same agian.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmiVYFueNvQ&feature=related
May 9th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
People blamed Russell’s fabled weight gain for his inability to scramble last year but the truth was he had a bad ankle and orders not to risk himself unduly.
With his ankle apparently healed, hopefully he’ll break off some big gainers at opportune moments in 09′.
His pocket presence was lacking last year, but with better recievers and hopefully better protection, it won’t matter as much and his timing / reads / choices will improve.
May 9th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Cut Yavone, we don’t need him.
Chaz
DHB
JLH
Murphy
?- Holland, Arman, Watkins, or one if the URFA.
5 WRs
3 TEs
2 FBs/ 3RBs
1 FB/ 4 RBs
May 9th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Like I said, we dont need Yavone.
We should have 5 WRs, 3 TEs, 2 FBs, 3 RBs, or 1 FB and 4 RBs. IMO
May 9th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Javon’s got potential but man, thats alot of work on his knees / ankle.
It’d be pretty great for him to return to pro bowl form, but all indications are that may have been a one off despite Al’s babysitting.
May 9th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
stop bein so mean to javon walkre . hes ben thru a lot , his friend died in his arms , he got beat up and robbed , he injured his leg , naahhhh , kut da wimp .
May 9th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I think Holland was pretty good too david white said jonathan holland low on the wr depth chart, but he’s catching everything in sight. can they carry six guys?
May 9th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Javon Walker is not reliable. That’s the problem with him. His knee is not healed and he’s 30 yrs old.
The starters should be
DHB
Schilens
JLH in the slot
Murphy as the number 4…
Sign Toomer for the 5th receiver and place Shields on the practice squad
May 9th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
You tell’em Dorian!
Nnamdi,
His knees are done!!!
May 9th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
man , johnnie morant looked great in practice and preseason years ago ,, but .. ?
May 9th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
any of you see garcia call out Jr on chronicle live last night??? good stuff
May 9th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
SnB,
I think you were right about Yavone, we don’t need a vet!!!
May 9th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
I’m still rootin for Shields.
He could be very very good if he can get and stay healthy
May 9th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
i would love to see a race betwwen d.h.b. , stanford routt , j.l.h. , and d-mac . my moneys on routt
May 9th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Raider O Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
You tell’em Dorian!
Nnamdi,
His knees are done!!!
======================================
have to admit, he’s had a looooot of surgeries
May 9th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Nnamdi…
Shields, if he is lucky starts the season on PUP…
May 9th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
nahh , but i did see garcia pullin d.h.b. to the side and mentoringhim after he was droppin passess , while bein defended by the air
May 9th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
New Thread…
May 9th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
they say a guy in baltimore is the n.f.l.`s fastest guy , uhh yamon figures ? but wut do they know ?
May 9th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
yaay , new thread
May 9th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
doriangray Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
i would love to see a race betwwen d.h.b. , stanford routt , j.l.h. , and d-mac . my moneys on routt
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Big fan of Stan but he got called out last year for slackin on special teams and not being up to speed as it were.
He should’ve taken his rightful place as the new number 2 after Hall was booted week 8 but contiuned to play down and not challenge.
I hope he and Huff go to Prime U like Chris Johnson did last season…
Not a fan of Neon but man, Johnson came out of no where after several years of less than mediocrity.
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