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Practice snapshots

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, May 8th, 2009 at 2:07 pm in Oakland Raiders.

A few highlights and notes from Friday’s minicamp practice before Tom Cable addresses the press at 2 p.m.:

– Solid first practice from first-round draft pick Darrius Heyward-Bey, although he was taken to school on one route by cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha. Asomugha said later Heyward-Bey had telegraphed the play with his eyes. Heyward-Bey said he looked forward to more chances to compete against the best.

Heyward-Bey looked smooth and natural catching the ball in drills against no defense (thankfully). His best play in a team session came on a deep sideline route in which he adjusted under an underthrown pass from Bruce Gradkowski and hauled it in some 40 yards downfield over Darrick Brown.

It was the kind of play a football player makes, but a sprinter doesn’t.

– The Day 1 starting offensive line for the Raiders: Mario Henderson at left tackle, Robert Gallery at left guard, John Wade at center, Cooper Carlisle at right guard, Cornell Green at right tackle and Tony Stewart at tight end.

The backfield and receivers on the first snaps were Chaz Schilens and Heyward-Bey at wide receiver, JaMarcus Russell at quarterback, Darren McFadden at running back and Luke Lawton at fullback.

– The second team offensive line was Khalif Barnes at left tackle, Mark Wilson at left guard, Chris Morris at center, Marcus Johnson at right guard and Erik Pears at right tackle.

– The offense, with passing game coordinator Ted Tollner, didn’t look much different than it did in the early days last year, although keep in mind the Raiders aren’t layering in everything on Day 1.

Lots of rolls and reverse rolls, lots of short passes over the middle to tight ends. Not much downfield. Receivers for the most part were sure-handed, although Stewart had an outright drop.

– Russell did little of consequence in team sessions in the passing game, mostly throwing short and playing it safe. His first medium-range throw went high and way outside toward rookie Louis Murphy, with Tollner crediting the rookie for his route and telling him the pass was offline.

On the seven-on-seven play in which Asomugha read Heyward-Bey and broke up a pass, Russell’s ensuing pass misfired to Johnnie Lee Higgins in the deep middle, with Stanford Routt defending.

Russell did have a nice touch on a sideline throw to Jonathan Holland some 20 yards downfield.

– Snapshot of backup quarterback Jeff Garcia _ can’t execute a deep range out pattern on one throw, then hits McFadden out of the backfield with a feathery touch on a swing pass on the next.

– Friday’s practice saw linebacker Ricky Brown, who had offseason sports hernia surgery, getting his snaps at middle linebacker rather than strong side linebacker.

– Jon Alston got reps with the starters at strong sidelinebacker, along with Kirk Morrison in the middle and Thomas Howard on the weak side. The starting cornerbacks were Nnamdi Asomugha and Chris Johnson, with Hiram Eugene and Tyvon Branch at safety.

With Derrick Burgess out, Trevor Scott was at left end, with Tommy Kelly and Gerard Warren inside and Jay Richardson on the right.

– Warren deflected a Gradkowski pass which was intercepted by Howard, with a defender chirping about the “small-ass quarterback.”

– Plenty of nice running plays by McFadden, Justin Fargas and Michael Bush, all getting relatively equal work, against defenders that aren’t allowed to hit or tackle.

– Draft pick Stryker Sulak of Missouri was playing with his hand down as a defensive end on both sides, but there could be plays in which he eventually plays as a linebacker, he said. Slade Norris worked as a strong sidelinebacker with non-starting units.

– Andrew Walter got little to no work in team sessions behind Russell, Garcia and Gradkowski.

– No sign of the “other” Chris Johnson, the rookie free agent wide receiver who was reported as signed by the Tennessean. Johnson, the cornerback whose signing was never announced, was of course on the field and playing.

More to come later after Tom Cable’s press briefing and lunch break . . .

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146 Responses to “Practice snapshots”

  1. IndianaRaider Says:

    nice

  2. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Jah vole

  3. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    oh theres bush

  4. DKnight007 Says:

    Pisa would be a solid pickup for this Raider team…

  5. edward teach Says:

    That must have been some catch that Heyward-Bey made down the field over Darrick Brown. Brown is 6′4″.

  6. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    With Derrick Burgess out, Trevor Scott was at left end, with Tommy Kelly and Gerard Warren inside and Jay Richardson on the right.

    WTF!!!! Move Richardson to the left side already!

  7. IndianaRaider Says:

    Great stuff this round Jerry. Any notes on how Scott looked after the offseason? Did he take the chance to bulk his frame any and maybe beef up? Any word on Mitchell? Huff? Frantz?

  8. raidergo Says:

    thats what i like to hear dhb going to prove the haters wrong

  9. IndianaRaider Says:

    It hasn’t been said yet, but I’d assume its safe to think the team with wear Cooper’s number on their helmet much like they did with Upshaw last year.

  10. Nnamdi21 Says:

    C’mon Russell! Lets get that foot work and accuracy down buddy!

    Not a huge major concern. Not as much as that Charger media guy made it seem “He’s (Russell) thrown more innacurate passes than anyone I’ve seen in the League.”

    Apparently this A hole hasn’t seen Tavaris Jackson or Brett Favre play before.

    Russell will be just fine and with some receivers on the field this year, he may wow some bishes

  11. ottocrat Says:

    – Snapshot of backup quarterback Jeff Garcia _ can’t execute a deep range out pattern on one throw, then hits McFadden out of the backfield with a FEATHERY TOUCH on a swing pass on the next.
    ——————————————————-
    LOL! I’m sorry, but that’s too funny

  12. raidergo Says:

    that would be the right thing to do. Honor him in the first game too. Honor his wife pregame or something

  13. SnB Defense Says:

    BART Bridge Blues Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
    With Derrick Burgess out, Trevor Scott was at left end, with Tommy Kelly and Gerard Warren inside and Jay Richardson on the right.

    WTF!!!! Move Richardson to the left side already!
    =======================================================
    Sigh……..Trevor Scott lining up over the Tight End and Right Tackle…..Jay Richardson over the left tackle….this lineup isn’t even worth experimenting with unless the Raiders face any left handed QBs this year

  14. crister Says:

    mike mitchell?

  15. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    Indiana,

    I am sure of it, sounds like they are keeping him on the roster for as long as possible as well. I wonder if they will also be doing a tribute to the cops with an OPD on their jerseys like the A’s.

  16. Raider O Says:

    Thank you Jerry.

  17. Nnamdi21 Says:

    raidergo Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
    thats what i like to hear dhb going to prove the haters wrong

    ====================================

    Bey’s got skills and was waaaay under utilized by Marylands weak offense and sketchy QB.

    Raiders did their home work and think he could be for rizzle.

    Eloquent, soft spoken and intelligent is how he came across in the interview I just saw.

    None of the braggadocio like Crab seemed to emminate.

  18. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Jah! Thanks Jerry! Always the best Raider coverage period

  19. Tooz loves Baby Ruth Says:

    Pisa for Mike!

  20. Nnamdi21 Says:

    crister Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
    mike mitchell?

    =========================

    Isn’t he dinged? Seem to recall reading that somewhere. Nothing major

  21. 17 Bob Trey O Says:

    “It was the kind of play a football player makes, but a sprinter doesn’t.”
    That’s what I want to hear. Kiper can suck it.

  22. raidergo Says:

    Eloquent, soft spoken and intelligent is how he came across in the interview I just saw.

    which one did you watch the espn one?

  23. Nnamdi21 Says:

    SnB Defense Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
    BART Bridge Blues Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
    With Derrick Burgess out, Trevor Scott was at left end, with Tommy Kelly and Gerard Warren inside and Jay Richardson on the right.

    WTF!!!! Move Richardson to the left side already!
    =======================================================
    Sigh……..Trevor Scott lining up over the Tight End and Right Tackle…..Jay Richardson over the left tackle….this lineup isn’t even worth experimenting with unless the Raiders face any left handed QBs this year

    ==================================

    D Burg has “earned” the right to skip these sort of pre season things but considering his injury history, its not a bad idea to get some reps for the other guys.

  24. Nnamdi21 Says:

    22. NFL Network a few days after the draft w/ Rich Eisen

  25. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    SnB,

    thank you for responding, I feel like I am taking crazy pills or something. Why would Marshall want to stick with this ridiculous set-up? We got killed by the Right-side of the O-lines all last year, KILLED. If they come out with Burgess on the left and Richardson on the right in Week 1, they might as well cash in and go home to wifey right there.

  26. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    i watched that maryland game on espn classic and they only threw dhb the ball twice once it was thrown too late and the next time too high but he still made the catch

  27. RaiderRockstar Says:

    is John Marshall the new HC of the defense, like Rob Ryan was?

    Cable said Sulak was going to be an OLB. Marsh has him at DE. Cable said Mitchell was a mix between Jack Tatum & Ronnie Lott. Marsh has him backing up ST gunner Tyvon Branch.

    Alston as a starter? Ricky Brown at MLB?

  28. JUSTautumnWINd Says:

    Hook it up!

    I’m looking for big things from Russell and I’m not down on him, but he looked pretty fat in those first few shots I saw of him this morning on NFLN.

    I doubt he was wearing that much padding because it’s non-contact, so it must have been all gut and love-handles bulging through that red jersey.

    Oh well, he was burly when we drafted him.

  29. 4evaRaider Says:

    Brown did play MLB at BC,I believe

  30. edward teach Says:

    Spring is here at last. Minicamp started today and the Giro d’Italia starts tomorrow.

    Things are looking up.

  31. raidergo Says:

    I like the fact bey wants to go against nnamdi too true compeditors want to go against the best

  32. Nnamdi21 Says:

    17 Bob Trey O Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
    “It was the kind of play a football player makes, but a sprinter doesn’t.”
    That’s what I want to hear. Kiper can suck it.

    =================================

    Kiper doesn’t care enough to learn how the Raiders scheme and philosophy is built. He just sees its differnet from how everyone else does it, our record and what every other media hater has to say and band wagons on.

    Anyone watch the draft at the end where they did the big head filter on the guys? F’in hilarious! I laughed my azz off!

    They put it on Mayock with the giant forehead thing and Eisen screams “KIPER! YOU LOOK LIKE MEL KIPER!!!”

    hILARIOUS!

  33. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    they showed raiders camp on nfln this morning

  34. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I like the fact bey wants to go against nnamdi too true compeditors want to go against the best

    ***

    who else is Nnamdi gonna cover?

    Walker & Miller are injured! haha

  35. edward teach Says:

    RockStar… first day of minicamp, bro. Marshall’s just looking at some things, probably based on the film study he did in the offseason.

  36. raidergo Says:

    a. Asomugha said later Heyward-Bey had telegraphed the play with his eyes. Heyward-Bey said he looked forward to more chances to compete against the best.

  37. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Mel Kiper Jr. doesn’t care about team needs. he cares about being right. he gives out draft grades based on value for the pick.

    My take: as long as DHB & Mitchell play like 1st & 2nd rounders and EARN their money, who cares? we’ve improved our football team

  38. RaiderRockstar Says:

    raidergo: I read that …

    it’s not like Heyward-Bey has a choice. otherwise I’m sure he’d like to have Darrick Brown, John Bowie or Jason Horton covering him!

    it makes him look good, you see?

  39. SnB Defense Says:

    BART Bridge Blues Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
    SnB,

    thank you for responding, I feel like I am taking crazy pills or something. Why would Marshall want to stick with this ridiculous set-up? We got killed by the Right-side of the O-lines all last year, KILLED. If they come out with Burgess on the left and Richardson on the right in Week 1, they might as well cash in and go home to wifey right there.
    =======================================================
    No you are not over medicated. Its Marshall for even experimenting with such an absurd lineup. Might as well put Thomas Howard at cornerback on a couple of plays. It just doesn’t work.

    Trevor Scott goes 250…he will be the same size or smaller than many tight ends…he will have no prescence on run plays…not too mention that RTs are big and nasty run blockers….

    I know everyone is excited about the offense and all….but if the Raiders can’t stop the run….they will lose 10 to 12 games again this year. One easy way to improve on the run is to get Richardson and that guy from Harvard as many reps at LDE as possible.

  40. RaiderRockstar Says:

    did Paul McQuistan & James Marten get pushed to 3rd team along with undrafted rookie Jonathan Compas?

  41. 17 Bob Trey O Says:

    Not sure how much this matters but David White said Walker had knee surgury last month: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?&entry_id=39824

  42. Nebraskan Raider007 Says:

    AWESOME!!!!!!!

    I can’t wait for this year to start…I frickin love the internet…at 42, people can understand we didn’t always have immediate news in the ol days!

    Let’s go my beloved SILVER & BLACK!!!!!!!

  43. SnB Defense Says:

    So Javon Walker had knee surgery without telling anyone….Arman Shields is still out with an injury.

    Let’s just get on with it…

    DHB and Schilens are day 1 starters

    JLH in the slot

    Murphy is the 4th receiver

    Add a veteran free agent like Armani Toomer

  44. The RaiderCast | Practice snapshots Says:

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  45. DMunoz26 Says:

    Why the hell is Russell misfiring on medium and deep passes, isn’t that supposed to be his specialty? This is somewhat concerning that he can’t complete passes in no contact drills. As much as I would like to believe our pass D is that good I doubt it had anything to do with him completely missing receivers. Russell better get it together.

  46. edward teach Says:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/gallery;_ylt=AjKfYFBQ5UitdF15cURAySpDubYF#photoViewer=urn%3Anewsml%3Asports.yahoo%2Cgetty%3A20050301%3Anfl%2Cphoto%2C2afbf9736d24c21fc9d66711eabd9aec-getty-86475448es042_oakland_raide%3A1

    Photos from Yahoo of Raiders’ minicamp.

  47. RaiderRockstar Says:

    One easy way to improve on the run is to get Richardson and that guy from Harvard as many reps at LDE as possible.

    ***

    S&B: the only rookie running with the first team was DHB, which makes sense due to the Walker injury and the contract he’ll receive

    Bryant will be lucky to make the team. Maybe the LDE you’re looking for is Matt Shaughnessy? Trevor Scott played well in limited action last year. He and Burgess are good pass rushers. Both struggle vs the run, but Nessy does not. He has a year to learn the system while D-Burg finishes out his contract year.

  48. RaiderRockstar Says:

    So Javon Walker had knee surgery without telling anyone….Arman Shields is still out with an injury.

    ***

    S&B: good thing we drafted a WR (or two), eh?

    what did I tell ya?

  49. IndianaRaider Says:

    @#46, this would make a nice cover to our playbook

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/gallery/im:urn:newsml:sports.yahoo,getty:20050301:nfl,photo,2afbf9736d24c21fc9d66711eabd9aec-getty-86475448es042_oakland_raide:1#photoViewer=urn%3Anewsml%3Asports.yahoo%2Cgetty%3A20050301%3Anfl%2Cphoto%2C3d809c9d5a61265d5bfc695f587d3f79-getty-86475448es004_oakland_raide%3A1

  50. SnB Defense Says:

    Rockstar,

    Shields is disappointing. ANOTHER WASTED DRAFT PICK

  51. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DMunoz26 post #45

    I agree. I don’t want to hear about how Russell can’t complete passes to the WR corps because Asomugha & CJ are so awesome in pass defense.

    I want to hear about how much he’s progressed this offseason and how amazing it is that he’s able to complete passes against the NFL’s best CB tandem

    so DHB dropped one and Stewart dropped one. what about all the other incomplete passes from Russell?

  52. Marcofromda510 Says:

    Just a side note, im as pleased to read the positive info from the camp as anyone else, but don’t get too carried away. Its the FIRST mini camp practice, no pads. Just shorts and helments. But so far a good start. Can’t wait for training camp. Welcome to the silver and black Ms.Neal, I hope you get a chance to get reaquantied with Ms.Merriman this season.

  53. Raider-405 Says:

    Another thing I am curious about is JLH. Not too mention of JLH and going into his 3rd year like Russell it will certainly be a make or break year.

    He has done everything you would love to see and everything equally as bad to where you would cut him after the game.

    Higgins has the speed and the moves, but hopefully something flips a switch and he get’s ‘it’ because he is the ideal NFL slot guy and return man.

  54. edward teach Says:

    Idiana… yeah, I like that one, too. There’s also a good one of him adjusting on a ball and making the catch.

    jaMarcus doesn’t look fat to me. Cable does, though :)

  55. 17 Bob Trey O Says:

    At least Russell looks under 300 lbs.

  56. JUSTautumnWINd Says:

    Wait, where’s Paul McQuistan? I thought he’d be the second team LG, not Wilson.

  57. ottocrat Says:

    Damn, Lorenzo Neil is 38! I had no idea. Oh well, hopefully he can last at least half a season while Oren continues his rehab.

  58. Elvis Says:

    Don’t be cruel bloggers…

    To that mod/troll when she is on her period because she can get very angry and boot people for selfish inadvertent reasons other than (racial slur derogatory comments patronizing other bloggers).

    If you see posts left up that still contain racial slurs and flat out foul language and then a posts gets deleted for no justifiable reason it makes you wonder?

  59. Nnamdi21 Says:

    54. Ha!

  60. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Have a great day Raider bretheren!

  61. DMunoz26 Says:

    # 17 Bob Trey O Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    At least Russell looks under 300 lbs.
    ______________

    Being under 300lbs doesn’t count for nothing if he can’t hit open receivers. His accuracy is starting to become a big issue when he is flat out missing guys in non contact drills. Nobody is touching him or the WR there is no reason he should be missing them.

  62. IndianaRaider Says:

    a half strength Lorenzo Neil is still better than a 100% Luke Lawton or someone who has yet to play his first NFL game, our running game looks that much better already.

  63. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Jerry Mac…

    The ONLY excuse you have for anything longer than a 60min. lunch break, is IF your at the local dive knocking back a couple of cold ones. After all it is a Friday.

    90mins. Max. then back to work, Jerry.

    Why didn’t Yvonne inform the TEAM, of her knee surgery until a coulpe of days ago?

  64. BUSH29willtranscendDMAC20 Says:

    thanks 46.

  65. Jim Morrison Says:

    I really don’t like reading Jerry’s mini camp coverage. Jerry is to sports writing what Stu Sweigart was to playing safety.

  66. jhill Says:

    Ricky Brown at MLB is not a surprise. He plays mush more physical that Morrison. Actually, I’m rooting for him to beat out Morrison at that position.

  67. holla4LosT Says:

    BOMB-BEY,

    Prove em wrong!

  68. IndianaRaider Says:

    Jim Morrison Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    I really don’t like reading Jerry’s mini camp coverage. Jerry is to sports writing what Stu Sweigart was to playing safety.
    ==============================================

    lmao, kind of harsh but I see the point

  69. edward teach Says:

    Indiana… agreed about Neal. The guys seen pretty much everything there is to see in the NFL, and with blocking as his primary responsibility he will be the most capable of blocking the right guy at the right time in both the running and passing games.

    I think he’s a great addition, and I don’t care how old he is if he can still do the job.

  70. BUSH29willtranscendDMAC20 Says:

    Damn Bomb-bey eh??? I like it sounds good, also looks good in that silver/black

  71. IndianaRaider Says:

    my only concern on Neal is I pray he isn’t like last years Drew Carter and gets hurt before the start of the season. If he can stay healthy, there is no reason we can’t be a top 5, if not a top 3 rushing team this year.

  72. SnB Defense Says:

    JHill,

    No way Morrison gets beat out by anyone…he has the coverage skills coveted by Al Davis and makes enough tackles that he will maintain his position. I don’t see an Undrafted Free Agent or Ricky Brown pushing him out of the position. There might be a desire for more physical play…but I think Morrison has also been issued a Ryan Holiday along with the rest of the defense…except Huff.

    Of course…Jasper Brinkley would have been a nice add to push him….but that over and done with…

  73. Marcofromda510 Says:

    Who said javon didn’t notify the team? The team doctors were the ones that probably reccomended the surgery. Also lay off the off pass. Anyone who’s ever thrown a football knows that the slipps away some times when your in the process of passing it. As long as it isn’t a consistent reoccurance, nothing worry about, just a bad pass…

  74. DMunoz26 Says:

    # Marcofromda510 Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    Who said javon didn’t notify the team? The team doctors were the ones that probably reccomended the surgery. Also lay off the off pass. Anyone who’s ever thrown a football knows that the slipps away some times when your in the process of passing it. As long as it isn’t a consistent reoccurance, nothing worry about, just a bad pass…
    __________

    It is a common occurance with jamarcus thats why we are talking about it.

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  76. 4evaRaider Says:

    Jmac struggled ALL year with “those” lil passes.WTF Jmac??? Come-On-Now!!!

  77. jhill Says:

    Morrsion doesn’t fit the mold of any MLB in Raider history SnB.

  78. edward teach Says:

    Indiana… one could say the same thing about any player, but not bringing someone in because you’re afraid they might get injured limits your selection of players by about 100%.

    Anyone can get hurt. Neal’s been pretty durable (even since his major neck injury, and that was awhile ago) and effective throughout his career and he definitely upgrades our fullback position. A no-brainer, in my view.

  79. IndianaRaider Says:

    DHB has said it over and over that he doesn’t care what the critics think. If Cable was smart, he’d play this clip before every game and practice for that little something extra.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jUgA_SsFSI&feature=related

  80. SnB Defense Says:

    Russell has caught more heat than any young QB I have ever seen.

  81. RaiderLove Says:

    67. I like that better. You got my vote.

  82. 4evaRaider Says:

    Yep this is why Fargas played over Dmac&Bush,he can protect Jmac.Now with this great signing of Neal we should see waaay more Dmac&Bush

  83. SnB Defense Says:

    jhill Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
    Morrsion doesn’t fit the mold of any MLB in Raider history SnB.
    =======================================================
    All I have to say is “Back 7″

  84. edward teach Says:

    SnB… agreed. Jerry mentioned two incompletes and already the guy is having accuracy problems. Sheesh.

  85. DMunoz26 Says:

    # SnB Defense Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    Russell has caught more heat than any young QB I have ever seen.
    _______________

    He misses open receivers, that means you usually aren’t very good. He either isn’t putting the time in to get his accuracy better or he just doesn’t have it. Either way not good for the Raiders. Don’t get me wrong I would love to see him throw 30-40 TD’s and prove me wrong but seems to be the same problems as last year in camp/season.

  86. IndianaRaider Says:

    edward teach Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    Indiana… one could say the same thing about any player, but not bringing someone in because you’re afraid they might get injured limits your selection of players by about 100%.

    Anyone can get hurt. Neal’s been pretty durable (even since his major neck injury, and that was awhile ago) and effective throughout his career and he definitely upgrades our fullback position. A no-brainer, in my view.
    ==================================================

    I agree with you 100%, and I would be all for bringing the guy in, not against it. Just to me, looking back and doing my best to improve and dig us out of the hole we’ve been in, the last thing I’d need is to see my weapon go down. If O.O. isn’t 100% and it’s a safe bet he isn’t, Neal provides that blanket granted he stays healthy. Like I said earlier, even at half strength, he is an upgrade over Lawton and Reece.

  87. 17 Bob Trey O Says:

    Raiders receiver Javon Walker had knee surgery last month and told the team about it just a few days ago, coach Tom Cable said.

    see link @ # 41

  88. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Marco…

    Yvonne did not notify the team. Per, D. White at SFGATE.

  89. SnB Defense Says:

    DMunoz26,

    This is a mini-camp…he missed a couple of throws…so what…wake me when the 1st preseason game starts

  90. 4evaRaider Says:

    I agree DMunoz26,this must be corrected.Many times last year he did this I hope he works THIS out

  91. DMunoz26 Says:

    # SnB Defense Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    DMunoz26,

    This is a mini-camp…he missed a couple of throws…so what…wake me when the 1st preseason game starts
    ___________

    He has had this problem since he has been with the Raiders, this isn’t a new development.

  92. 4evaRaider Says:

    THIS= short pass dysfunction or SPD

  93. RaiderLove Says:

    Javon you little punk. You need to make another trip to Vegas.

  94. 4evaRaider Says:

    #93 lmao gawd I love that =)

  95. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    SnB Defense Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
    Russell has caught more heat than any young QB I have ever seen.
    ————————————————–
    Don’t all African-American QB’s get flack. It’s all racial. IMHO. No I’m not a minority, just stating the facts.

  96. RaiderLove Says:

    # exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    SnB Defense Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
    Russell has caught more heat than any young QB I have ever seen.
    ————————————————–
    Don’t all African-American QB’s get flack. It’s all racial. IMHO. No I’m not a minority, just stating the facts.
    =========================
    I don’t buy that. He was taken #1! Hit the numbers! Enough said.

  97. DMunoz26 Says:

    # exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    SnB Defense Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
    Russell has caught more heat than any young QB I have ever seen.
    ————————————————–
    Don’t all African-American QB’s get flack. It’s all racial. IMHO. No I’m not a minority, just stating the facts.
    ___________________

    Come on man really? Ask Jerry how many times when Gannon was here that the ball hit the ground in non contact drills. btw my fave QB was Vince Evans, dopest back up QB ever.

  98. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    DMunoz26 his completion pct over the last 4 games was 63.7 so he is obviously getting better this is just the first mini camp he only missed a couple of throws

  99. DMunoz26 Says:

    # 16yearsold16yearfan Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    DMunoz26 his completion pct over the last 4 games was 63.7 so he is obviously getting better this is just the first mini camp he only missed a couple of throws
    ________________

    I know that but when the guy has a record of inaccuracy it’s a concern means he isn’t putting the work in the offseason, I am not against the guy I would love this guy to become the QB we all want him to be.

  100. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    he doesnt have a record of inaccuracy his completion pct in college was over 70 pct and it was in the 60’s at the end of the year he had some missed throws thats what happens with young qb’s

  101. KoolKell Says:

    You would think Jerry’s first observation would have been Russell’s weight. It’s all he talks about.

  102. BUSH29willtranscendDMAC20 Says:

    you niggs do need to chill on Jruss we can tear into him and beg for garica after week 3 at least jeez…my quest?? is where jerry at i want full transcripts of the interviews wit all the rooks

  103. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    he probably didnt say anything about it because russell wasnt fat

  104. SnB Defense Says:

    DMunoz26,

    Troy Aikman completed 56.6% of his passes threw 11 TDS 18 INTs in his SECOND SEASON as a starter

    John Elway completed 54% of his passes and threw 23 INTs in his THIRD SEASON….

    Let’s see Russell at least complete his second season as a starter before we go sign another retread veteran QB as a starter.

  105. KoolKell Says:

    Jerry,

    How did Russell’s waistline look?

  106. DarthPirate Says:

    There’s a picture of Mike Mitchell running during drills today on yahoo sports so he was certainly participating.

    And so what, Russell missed on some throws, everybody does. Even Jeff Garcia, with his “feathery touch” :D

  107. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    kell it must not have looked bad or jerry would have talked about it

  108. DKnight007 Says:

    SnB Defense Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
    DMunoz26,

    Troy Aikman completed 56.6% of his passes threw 11 TDS 18 INTs in his SECOND SEASON as a starter

    John Elway completed 54% of his passes and threw 23 INTs in his THIRD SEASON….

    Let’s see Russell at least complete his second season as a starter before we go sign another retread veteran QB as a starter.

    ^^^^^
    Thank You! Now I hope ignorant Russell haters can shut the hell up for at least one more year.

  109. 4evaRaider Says:

    but he always seems 2 miss those,just sayin

  110. DarthPirate Says:

    Agreed. Judge Russell at the end of each year, not at a friggin minicamp. C’mon guys, you all know more football than to do that.
    ——————–
    # SnB Defense Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    DMunoz26,

    Troy Aikman completed 56.6% of his passes threw 11 TDS 18 INTs in his SECOND SEASON as a starter

    John Elway completed 54% of his passes and threw 23 INTs in his THIRD SEASON….

    Let’s see Russell at least complete his second season as a starter before we go sign another retread veteran QB as a starter.

  111. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    4eva in college he had over 70% cmp and at the end of the year it was over 60% so he cant miss that much throws

  112. KoolKell Says:

    16

    You would think so. Still, with all his reporting, you’d think he’s mention it, even if he was wrong.

  113. DMunoz26 Says:

    # SnB Defense Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    DMunoz26,

    Troy Aikman completed 56.6% of his passes threw 11 TDS 18 INTs in his SECOND SEASON as a starter

    John Elway completed 54% of his passes and threw 23 INTs in his THIRD SEASON….

    Let’s see Russell at least complete his second season as a starter before we go sign another retread veteran QB as a starter.
    _________________

    Nobody saying we need to sign another QB, just said the kid needs to put the time in and perfect his craft. His completion percentage was up at the end of the year but he was throwing mostly short passes and has shown a reluctance to get WR’s involved relying mostly on TE’s and RB’s for his completions. When his 2 incompletions both being medium to deep range to receivers that’s not what any of us want to see from him. The Raiders need him to make those throws to keep the defense honest and not crowding the line of scrimmage.

  114. Chris in NY Says:

    The Russell bashers are clueless.

    ‘What? He missed throws in a minicamp practice? Give his overpaid azz the hook!’

    Give me a break.

  115. Raider Thread:Looks like we have a new back-up QB - Page 132 - Sports Rumor Mill Says:

    [...] Practice snapshots – Inside The Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly classified O… Some notes from first mini-camp. I am posting the link instead of the article, because Jerry needs the hits on his page to make sure they do not get rid of him and his blog. -DHB looking solid so far. __________________ [...]

  116. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    I liked Vince Evans too. As long as he didn’t have to play. LOL

  117. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    DMunoz26 his wr sucked for the beginning of the season so he had to rely on miller and dmac

  118. DMunoz26 Says:

    I don’t think we will hear much about Mitchell during non contact drills, the kid is a monster hitter. Hopefully we will start hearing about him when the pads go on. If he and Branch were the starters it would definitely bring back some of the intimidation that we have lost over the years.

  119. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Russell and Miller could use the reps

  120. DMunoz26 Says:

    # 16yearsold16yearfan Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    DMunoz26 his wr sucked for the beginning of the season so he had to rely on miller and dmac
    _______________

    It’s easy to say the WR’s sucked but the 1 game he was actually throwing to Walker, Walker actually looked decent. I don’t think you can put it all on the WR’s, but again I hope I am wrong because I am ready for them to be a top tier team again and it starts with these high paid draft picks we’ve been taking stepping up and making a difference for us.

  121. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Major question with Mitchell is the level of competition he faced.

  122. KoolKell Says:

    So far as Russell getting his WR’s involved, as I recall Chaz and JLH scored a bunch of TD’s late last year.

  123. Nnamdi21 Says:

    DMunoz26 Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
    # 16yearsold16yearfan Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    DMunoz26 his wr sucked for the beginning of the season so he had to rely on miller and dmac
    _______________

    It’s easy to say the WR’s sucked but the 1 game he was actually throwing to Walker, Walker actually looked decent. I don’t think you can put it all on the WR’s, but again I hope I am wrong because I am ready for them to be a top tier team again and it starts with these high paid draft picks we’ve been taking stepping up and making a difference for us.

    =====================================

    Oh you can’t put it all on the WR’s. His tackles were terrible!

  124. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Russell was a Rookie QB in reality last year starting off the season without receivers, running backs with injuries and a coach who didn’t want him. Yet he showed great improvement. I expect the performance curve up will be great as long as he does not get injured.

  125. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    oh yea that too

  126. IndianaRaider Says:

    More to come later after Tom Cable’s press briefing and lunch break . . .
    ===============================================

    It’s been awhile, did Cable go back for seconds or what?

  127. 4evaRaider Says:

    KA-POW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  128. KoolKell Says:

    What is the treatment of a sports hernia?
    There are no treatments that have been shown to be effective for sports hernia other than surgery. That said, the initial treatment of a sports hernia is always conservative in hopes that the symptoms will resolve. Resting from activity, anti-inflammatory medications, ice treatments, and physical therapy can all be tried in an effort to alleviate the patient’s symptoms.

    If these measures do not relieve the symptoms of a sports hernia, surgery may be recommended to repair the weakened area of the abdominal wall. In number of studies have shown between 65% and 90% of athletes are able to return to their activity after surgery for a sports hernia. Rehabilitation from surgery for a sports hernia usually takes about eight weeks.

  129. Nnamdi21 Says:

    114. Amen

  130. DMunoz26 Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    So far as Russell getting his WR’s involved, as I recall Chaz and JLH scored a bunch of TD’s late last year.
    ___________

    They didn’t score a bunch they scored a few, 5 TD’s in the last 3 games w/ only 19 catches for JLH and Schilens.

  131. 4evaRaider Says:

    Mitchell-Branch= KA-POW!!!!!!! Man intimidation is back

  132. SnB Defense Says:

    I also believe that a couple of those misfires were medium and deep routes. Those are not necessarily high percentage passes…..would you all like him to throw 100 screen passes (ala Matt Cassel or Chad Pennington) and have a 100% completion percentage?

    Also, I doubt Russell has a heck of a lot chemistry developed with guys like DHB and Murphy. I believe that this is what mini-camps are for.

    Again, wake me during the pre-season games

  133. 4evaRaider Says:

    Just give Mitchell #32

  134. KoolKell Says:

    DMunoz26 Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
    # KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    So far as Russell getting his WR’s involved, as I recall Chaz and JLH scored a bunch of TD’s late last year.
    ___________

    They didn’t score a bunch they scored a few, 5 TD’s in the last 3 games w/ only 19 catches for JLH and Schilens.
    ————————–
    Alrighty then. There was improvement.

  135. Coach on Wheels Says:

    CABLE SAID WALKER DIDN’T NOTIFY THE TEAM. That’s why it is an issue. Cam Iman and Dave White both reported it.

    The RAIDERS did NOT suggest the surgery – per the team. “He did it on his own.”

  136. DKnight007 Says:

    909RaiderLifer Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
    Jerry Mac…

    The ONLY excuse you have for anything longer than a 60min. lunch break, is IF your at the local dive knocking back a couple of cold ones. After all it is a Friday.

    90mins. Max. then back to work, Jerry.

    Why didn’t Yvonne inform the TEAM, of her knee surgery until a coulpe of days ago?

    ^^^^^^
    LOL

  137. DMunoz26 Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    DMunoz26 Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
    # KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    So far as Russell getting his WR’s involved, as I recall Chaz and JLH scored a bunch of TD’s late last year.
    ___________

    They didn’t score a bunch they scored a few, 5 TD’s in the last 3 games w/ only 19 catches for JLH and Schilens.
    ————————–
    Alrighty then. There was improvement.
    ______________

    Improvement yes but you stated they caught a bunch of TD’s, that was completely false. Again for all you getting all stirred up I am completely for JRussell doing well and bringing us back to the top of the league.

  138. DKnight007 Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
    Mitchell-Branch= KA-POW!!!!!!! Man intimidation is back

    ^^^^^
    Agreed!

  139. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    19 catches in 3 games seems pretty good thats like 6 catches a games

  140. KoolKell Says:

    “The first time he lined up against Pro Bowl cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, quarterback JaMarcus Russell went right to him.

    Asomugha read the No. 7 overall pick’s eyes, jumped the in route and dropped a sure interception in front of Heyward-Bey.

    Lined up later against Darrick Brown, DHB found it much easier to run a deep go route and pull in a sideline pass from Bruce Gradkowski.

    DHB dropped one pass, a high Russell missile that bounced off both his hands. He caught a similiar pass later, and made one outstanding catch where he jumped in full stride, caught the ball going away and got both feet in as he fell out of bounds.”

    David White

  141. DMunoz26 Says:

    # 16yearsold16yearfan Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    19 catches in 3 games seems pretty good thats like 6 catches a games
    _____________

    6 catches a game for 2 receivers, so really only 3 a game, that’s not good enough to win in this league unless you are up on teams and can run the clock down and stop the other team.

  142. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    but on was a rookie the other was a 2nd year player so yes its pretty good

  143. xMxReaperxMx Says:

    So does anyone know where cable’s press briefing is? it’s been awhile since practice was over.

    hmm… looking forward to that.

  144. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    new post

  145. Crow Says:

    Preciate it, Jerry. Keep it coming.

  146. Chemistry Hub Says:

    Chemistry Hub…

    [...] Also, I doubt Russell has a heck of a lot chemistry developed with guys like DHB and Murphy. I believe that this is what mini-camps are for. Again, wake me during the pre-season games. 4evaRaider Says: May 8th, 2009 at 4:02 pm … [...]…

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