DHB sits it out
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, May 9th, 2009 at 6:56 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Notes from Saturday’s second minicamp practice:
After a rough morning practice that included dropped passes and counsel from Jeff Garcia, wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey mostly watched during the second session.
The No. 1 draft pick, who at one point Saturday morning was being worked on by the training staff for an apparent cramp, went through some drills but did not participate in any seven-on-seven or team drills.
Raiders coach Tom Cable, who addresses the media once in the afternoon, declined to update Heyward-Bey’s status.
“He said he’ll get into it tomorrow,” senior executive John Herrera said.
– Al Davis made his first minicamp appearance a little before 5 p.m., watching on a cart and departing before the session was finished.
– Guard Cooper Carlisle found himself on the ground during the no-contact drills courtesy of Tommy Kelly two times in a span of three plays.
– Tight end Chris O’Neill, an undrafted free agent from Boise State, made the best catch of minicamp so far, reaching up and cradling a one-handed catch from Jeff Garcia more than 20 yards downfield behind Michael Huff and Jerome Boyd, the Oregon linebacker who is being played at safety.
– During a seven-on-seven drill, Garcia spied McFadden with one-on-one coverage by rookie free-agent linebacker David Nixon of BYU. Garcia pump faked and found McFadden for a 45-yard gain down the sideline not far from where Davis was watching practice in his cart.
– Russell’s passing continued to be hit and miss, with a lot short throws to running backs and tight ends with the occasional attempt downfield. He found Louis Murphy on a deep cross on one attempt, and later threw a high wobbler down the left sideline toward Murphy that missed badly out of bounds with Justin Miller in coverage.
Practice ended with Russell completing a sideline route to Murphy.
– The second session, particularly in the early stages, was much more spirited and energetic.
– Early in the session, a hawk emerging from the field beyond the fence at the Oakland Airport flew through the air with a snake and landed on a nearby communications tower, where it came under the scrutiny of a few other birds who were diving at his prey.
Some support staff and a few players were watching, until returning their gaze to the field when play resumed _ all except Shane Lechler, who never punted in the session and could afford to watch the show.
– Tommy Kelly jumped offsides during a team session, with five yards marked off for the offense since the first down markers were in use. The Raiders bypassed recognition of similar fouls in the first session.
– A good sign offensively _ two well-executed screen passes, one from Russell to Michael Bush and another from Bruce Gradkowski to Louis Rankin.
– Aside from Heyward-Bey, those who did not participate included left guard Robert Gallery, defensvie tackle Gerard Warren, defensive end Derrick Burgess, tight end Zach Miller, center Samson Satele and fullback Oren O’Neal. Linebacker Ricky Brown returned after sitting out the first session, and deflected and nearly intercepted a Garcia pass.
The Raiders wrap up their minicamp with a single practice Sunday at 11:45 a.m.
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May 9th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Thanks Jerry!!
May 9th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Let’s hope for full participation in tomorrows final prctice of this session.
GO RAIDERS!
May 9th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Most of this camp news seems disappointing rather
than uplifting. Sigh.
May 9th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
I would love to see the 45 yard gain from McFadden.
May 9th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
SnakeStabler Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Most of this camp news seems disappointing rather
than uplifting. Sigh.
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Thats only because Jerry is disappointing rahter than uplifting.
May 9th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
[...] [Raiders] Raiders WR Darrius Heyward-Bey Sits After Struggles After a rough morning practice that included dropped passes and counsel from Jeff Garcia, Raiders rookie wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey mostly watched during the second session. The No. 1 draft pick, who at one point Saturday morning was being worked on by the training staff for an apparent cramp, went through some drills but did not participate in any seven-on-seven or team drills. Raiders coach Tom Cable, who addresses the media once in the afternoon, declined to update Heyward-Bey’s status. “He said he’ll get into it tomorrow,” senior executive John Herrera said. Source: Oakland Tribune [...]
May 9th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
In response to a discussion in an earlier forum…
the qb when I fell in love with the Raiders at age 7 was Jim Plunkett
my favorite offensive raider was Marcus Allen, my favorite defensive raider was mike haynes
May 9th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
– Early in the session, a hawk emerging from the field beyond the fence at the Oakland Airport flew through the air with a snake and landed on a nearby communications tower, where it came under the scrutiny of a few other birds who were diving at his prey.
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Practice must have really been rough to watch if this is a highlight worth mentioning in the blog. I guess us readers will never get how tough it is.
May 9th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Only Lane Kiffin & OakGlenn thought L Neal didnt fit our system, as if we even have a “system”.
# Oakglenn Says:
April 29th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Lo plays a different style of FB than we play here. He would not fit the scheme. Unfortunately.
May 9th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Mistabrown Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Only Lane Kiffin & OakGlenn thought L Neal didnt fit our system, as if we even have a “system”.
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So, mistabrown insists we don’t have any type of offensive system. Wow. That is the dumbest thing he has ever posted, and he thinks we tried the fake FG against KC on 2nd down. I guess in mistabrowns pychotic world, when Jamarcus goes into the huddle against New England or any other team, he says, “OK, guys, just go out.”
May 9th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Murphy will prove to be a steal for us. He’s almost as explosive as Bey.
May 9th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Also I’m excited to see the LoNeal/O’neal blocking tandem.
May 9th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
# M Lonetree Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Here I will give my best attempt to give all concerned a break for the rest of the weekend -
Dude etc. says, “Al Davis (insert here any negative comment)…”
Dude etc. says, “The Raiders (insert here any negative comment)…”
Dude etc. says, “JaMarcus Russell (insert here any negative comment)…”
Dude etc. says, “The defense (insert here any negative comment)…”
Dude etc. says, “The wide receivers (insert here any negative comment)…”
Dude etc. says, “The offensive line (insert here any negative comment)…”
Dude etc. says, “The linebackers (insert here any negative comment)…”
Dude etc. says “The last six years (insert here “blah, blah, blah)”
Dude etc. says, “(insert here self-righteous indignation that anyone could not be as full of haterism as it)”
good luck
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even if its provocative its very very true…
May 9th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Its only mini camp so its not worth getting mad about anything but I have only one thing.
Why is Jamarcus Russell so inaccurate with his passes? Heres my thing…If you’ve been playing QB all of your life, throwing the ball should come naturally so if you’re constantly throwing passes everywhere but to the receiver on a consistent basis, somethings wrong. As a QB, throwing a basic thing you’ve been doing your whole life so how can you fuk it up that badly? This was a problem during last season as well so it should have been fixed by now. I just don’t want that to continue.
May 9th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
DHB sitting out with a strained coochie. Poor thing.
Sigh.
May 9th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
# 24 Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Its only mini camp so its not worth getting mad about anything but I have only one thing.
Why is Jamarcus Russell so inaccurate with his passes? Heres my thing…If you’ve been playing QB all of your life, throwing the ball should come naturally so if you’re constantly throwing passes everywhere but to the receiver on a consistent basis, somethings wrong. As a QB, throwing a basic thing you’ve been doing your whole life so how can you fuk it up that badly? This was a problem during last season as well so it should have been fixed by now. I just don’t want that to continue.
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Welcome to JaMarcus Russell football. Oakland’s only hope is that the ground game is top 5 and the screen game is consistently effective. If Miller, Bush, and McBabyDaddy can manage a few RAC 1st downs, maybe the Big Dummy’s deceptive 60%+ completion percentage will remain intact. If Al expects this guy to actually become a vertical game QB, he’s in for a sad surprise.
May 9th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Thx Jerry.
What’s up Nation.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
It is what it is guys… maybe Garcia will get a shot, get the Raiders to .500, then we draft a new QB in next year’s draft.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Raider O,
It’s freaking late. What you doing up?
I’m having the family over, needed to check the tweets. But most importantly this blog.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
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May 9th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Did JaMarcus Russell start for us last year?
didn’t he play very well in the final 6 weeks of the year?
Isn’t he going into his second year as a starter?
This is a very young QB who’s getting his game together and he has a long way to go and they’re getting the weapons around him that all QB’s need to be successful..
There are some things we are all concerned about as far as his development but the coaches seem t be fine with his develpment so far. Untill they stat to be concerned that maybe Russell is not the guy. I for one wont be.
As for most in here it’s business as usual overeact whine and complain about evrything everytime you get the chance.
It’s MAY minicamp, get a grip. They were in QB school now he’s trying to put theory to practice. It should look rough at first. But from what I’m reading it’s streaky with Garcia and Russell . Garcia is struggling worse than Russell but only Russell’s struggles are note worthy and that makes sense, he’s our future. But for cryin’ out loud you’d think he doesn’t complete a pass based on some comments.
I really don’t expect to see a rhythmic passing attack until maybe midseason. By the end of next season we should really start to see Russell take off.
Until then what you saw the final parts of last season should be the norm most of next year and the he should start to have a higher degree of consistency.
You saw that with Cutler and it’s what you see with most young starting QB’s. I’ve said it many times it takes roughly 30 starts for a QB start playing well consistently some longer.
Most great QB’s became great in their 5th season of consistent starts. That doesn’t mean you can win and win big as a team. It just means for him to really play at a high level consistently he’ll probably be in his 5th year of starting. Donovan McNabb is the player I compare Russell to the most and that’s how I see the kid.
He’s in his 17th start and on schedule IMO. Donovan was very eratic at that point but the won the NFL East in his second year as a starter. I see Russell and the Raiders the same way.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
I heard some very encouraging tthgings about the defense and Cable reiterated them in his press conference. I’m hoping it comes to fruition that the defense will resemble old defenses of the past when we took it to the opponent rather than sit back in exotic zones hoping to fool someone.
So we’ll see.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:22 am
RaiderLove,
I had a close friend over tonight, I haven’t seen him in 3.5 years. It’s really late now, so I will call it a night.
Good night sir.
Later Nation.
May 10th, 2009 at 3:53 am
Good Morning NATION
May 10th, 2009 at 4:01 am
DHB had to sit out because he was suffering from acute hypothermia in his hands.
May 10th, 2009 at 4:02 am
this guy takes his pet gorrilla to the golf course.
He bets another golfer $50 bucks his gorrilla can beat him in a round of golf.
The other golfer says you’re on!!!
So the golfer tee’s it up and smashes the ball 350 yards right down the center of the fair-way,a beauty of a shot.
The gorrilla tee’s it up and BAM,the ball travels 520 yards and lands 2 feet from the cup.
Well the golfer knows he is beat so he hands over the $50 bucks and says;just out of curiosity how does your gorrilla putt???
The guy says “The same as he drives”!!! Moral of story???
Looks like we have a QB that can throw it a mile,but cant complete the short pass
May 10th, 2009 at 4:05 am
SPD= Short Pass Dysfunction
May 10th, 2009 at 4:12 am
Man I hope Jmac can over come this but… You would think he already would know how 2 throw a short pass.
Many times last year a drive stalled b/c he couldnt throw a short pass.He got 30 mill and he acts like he dont give -a-sh!t
Its ALL HIS FAULT 4 holding out,he dont practice in the off-season,he flaunts his wealth:White Rolls Royce,white mink-stole and planet size bling.I 4 1 am sick of this punks sh!t!!!
Put up this year Jablubber Jablingus or get the FUKK-OUT punk
May 10th, 2009 at 4:13 am
30 fukkin mill and CANT THROW A SHORT PASS 2 SAVE HIS BLING
May 10th, 2009 at 4:16 am
I bet Hendricks or Tatum could light a fire under Jablubber Jablingus azz
May 10th, 2009 at 4:25 am
I’ll just meander over 2 the water cooler,dum-de-dum.I sure hope they have doughnuts
May 10th, 2009 at 4:56 am
4eva you’re shot out of the cannon I love it it’s early but if jruss struggles throwing short passes with no contact damn , we have dmac and bush to great pass catching rb and they could be are 2 greatest weapons and would save jruss a ton of times from getting sacked . I hate garcia so much it always bites me right in the azz watch him get his chance and shine and lead us into the playoffs.
May 10th, 2009 at 4:58 am
– Cable and JaMarcus Russell made reference to how well the quarterback was throwing earlier in the practice before being erratic late (most of the on-target passes came against no defense at all).
Russell is unconcerned and said he is pleased with his progress.
“I have guys who are new targets for the ball. I try to put the ball in great places to give the team a chance to catch it,” Russell said. “THATS WHAT WE GOT PRACTICE FOR.”
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4eva….Just chill, we got this
May 10th, 2009 at 5:00 am
I was reading priestj it takes every qb 5yrs to get great somebody tell that to ryan,brady,manning,big ben,marino
May 10th, 2009 at 5:10 am
Well you know I’m 4 Jmac all the way but…
He shot himself in the foot by holding out,he has put himself in the bulls-eye.
Its just that normal growing up,you would automatically be able 2 hit a short pass.Even the last 2 games recievers had 2 jump or stretch 4 da ball.I mean COME-ON!!!
It has been stated B4 he held out 4 all he could get b/c he already knew it would prolly be his only one.Man you guys he’s starting 2 scare me.Never saw an arm like his,all the up-side in the world so one would think a short pass IN STRIDE 2 the reciever would be as normal as,as,eating a doughnut =)
May 10th, 2009 at 5:19 am
I just dont think I could stand another double-digit loss season.Go out and shoot-up the town or something crazy.And I hope I’m wrong but Jmac just dosent seem 2 take this as serious as he should.Man pay me 1 mill and I’d work my fingers to the bone or do whatever it took,like moving in with my O-line or WR’s.Or hell with all that cash rent an island and
PRACTICE…PRACTICE…PRACTICE
May 10th, 2009 at 5:21 am
Man Garcia has got 2 be thinking “This is gonna be EASY”
May 10th, 2009 at 5:27 am
so you think the 10 15 passes reported are the only ones JaMarcus threw in four sessions?
well then you make sense…..
CC mentioned the improved footwork and timing of the passes which indicates they are working on the fumbles Russell committed last year by holding on the the ball a second too long you remember?
and then you read about the WR coach correcting JLHs route on another sentence.
its practice in may man and the defenders are all fresh in shorts and run support is just being in front of the pulling guard on tape.
May 10th, 2009 at 5:46 am
well I guess you guys are right,it’s only May.Its just Ryan and Flacco dont have these problems.These guys came 2 play not hold out.Oh-well its only May
May 10th, 2009 at 5:47 am
Before anyone jumps off a bridge, be aware that Jerry is very diligent about pointing out the times when JaMarcus throws incomplete passes. He is also loath to miss an opportunity to describe a bad pass in detail.
As CSTS points out, JaMarcus threw a whole lot more than ten or fifteen passes during the last two days.
Don’t panic, folks. It’s just Jerry being Jerry.
May 10th, 2009 at 5:52 am
I want jruss to succeed given the last 6 yrs you can’t blame any of us hardcore fans for getting a little worried does cable have any kind of pull with the players or like always do they know the who the real boss is and will behave accordingly .
GO RAIDERS!!!!!
May 10th, 2009 at 6:54 am
bydavidwhiteindividual drills, they look great against air.
bydavidwhite”thats the way to catch the football.” ted tollner to dhb after nice catch.
bydavidwhiteno drops or double-catches yet
bydavidwhitennamdi covering dhb … nnam cuts in front and drops russell pick inside. nice.
bydavidwhitechaz schilens keeps catching everything in sight. cutting javon looks easier each minute
bydavidwhitemore mcfadden in the slot, catching russell passes in full stride.
bydavidwhitejinxed chas. just dropped td after splitting two defenders.
bydavidwhitethats three pd’s on dhb after he got open initially. he’ll learn
bydavidwhitelorenzo neal makes his first catch, a checkdown screen from russell
bydavidwhitejonathan holland low on the wr depth chart, but he’s catching everything in sight. can they carry six guys?
bydavidwhiterussell put a pass on te darrell strong’s face mask. gotta be ready for that fastball, gents
bydavidwhiteheyward-bey overthrown twice. they’re still trying to time up with his speed
ydavidwhitedhb flat-out dropped russell pass … then another one on next play
bydavidwhitenext play, busts up jump ball on much bigger chaz schilens. looking great
bydavidwhitemcfadden beat rookie lb on wheel route, gotta make that catch though
bydavidwhitemcfadden lines up wide, beats david nixon, over-shoulder catch …
bydavidwhiterussell finishes with completion to louis murphy, three horns, that’s a wrap
May 10th, 2009 at 6:58 am
JRuss is on targer more often than not. He will still have his 60% completion rate, which means, yes there will be some incompletions.
Plenty of examples of him being spot on target. Chaz, DHB, and Murphy are all very tall WRs with speed. JRuss is going to try different places to put the ball so that only they can catch it. That’s going to take a minute to get right.
As long as he’s not throwing picks, I’m cool!
May 10th, 2009 at 7:09 am
60% no-contact.
It’s only May
It’s only May
May 10th, 2009 at 7:24 am
Why are some of us are so down on JR esp you 4evaraider? He’s a new QB, its the first mini-camp and he finished well last year. What drag up his hold out the year before is beyond me.
I think we are in an OK place and that’s fine. Doing decent stuff, focussing on the basics is what we need. JR is going to come on massive this year with Garcia behind him. Brilliant plan by Coach cable et al.
Go raiders – keep the faith.
May 10th, 2009 at 7:32 am
What plan by cable al makes the plan and then cable says yes sir and trys to sell it so enough of this cable bs same exact guy who loved kwame I have more faith in al than cable anyday!
May 10th, 2009 at 7:38 am
Gee DHB dropped passes….what a suprise, Al Davis your an idiot, and Tom Cable your a kiss @ss yes man. Even my 10 year old daughter knew the Raiders screwed up big time in the draft….Next negative story will be on Mitchell.
May 10th, 2009 at 7:40 am
….David White reported yesterday that Chubbustus is still as scatterarmed as ever, and that he was also underwhelmed by Heyward-Bey’s ability to catch the ball…
When either New England , Indy or other competent teams have passing drills, I understand that drops are rare…
I have been quietly reading here recently that Priesttj has been unfairly labeling those not blindly praising Chubbustus as racists….
Consequently,I,( who also voted for Obama), am glad he has pointed out what he perceives as sililarities between Donovan McNabb’s and Chubbustus’ development.
If Donovan McNabb was as woefully inaccurate on anything but check-downs as Chubbustus as thus far demonstrated , I’d bet my house that on HIS off days, McNabb would be working his arse off to correct the problem…
Further, It isn’t often that the “stoner” character,(as portrayed by Sean Penn in “Fast Times at Ridgemont High”), suddenly reverts his course of conduct and suddenly challenges Steven Hawking for his dept chair seat…
If Chubbustus would simply show the dedication that he is really trying to compete with the Tom Brady’s , Peyton Manning’s and Donovan McNabb’s of the world as a function of his visably BEING THERE AFTER HOURS,( conditioning, working on fundamentals, studying)….a la Rich Gannon…. I , for one, would be far more willing to accept Chubbustus’inappropiate gaudy attire and laid back demeanor….
May 10th, 2009 at 7:40 am
60% last 6 games of the season with plenty of contact.
But hey, call it what you want.
May 10th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Chubbustus’inappropiate gaudy attire and laid back demeanor….
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And there it is folks. It’s so funny.
Plain and simple, I mean REALLY plain and simple!
If Jamarcus dressed more like some of you, and acted more like some of you, then he would be more “accepted”
?!??!?!?!?!!?
And you don’t understand why some people consider that biased (I won’t say racist) commentary?
May 10th, 2009 at 7:47 am
he gets No slack from me;he held out,now he gets what he deserves,imo
Imo he is not motivated
He already took the money.If he dont produce this year,do you think he should take a 27 million pay-cut like the donkey???
And thats a HUGE part of all this belly-aching by me: The donkey’s secret surgery and all the cancer that came with him.And Jmac is fat and still cant throw the touch pass,tip-toes to the water-keg and he just looks plain-lazy 2 me.
If jablubber jablingus had HALF of Fargas’s work ethic,I wouldnt bitch
May 10th, 2009 at 7:49 am
The fact that you are letting non football related stuff impact your judgement on Russell is baffling!
The guy finished the season strong. 60% completion rate, high QB rating, low INTs …. in his first 16 games for crying out loud.
His OTs have been upgraded, and more weapons are available to him, yet he is not on track, in your opinion?
My goodness, I surely hope you guys put in the effort at your job that you expect of JRuss.
May 10th, 2009 at 7:56 am
He held out?
He took the $?
He’s fat?
Looks lazy?
LOL, 4eva … C’mon man, what are you talking about?
He’s been at the facility EVERYDAY since the season ended. He took a week off to bury his uncle and see his mom through surgery! And even if the man spent the entire week doing nothing but relaxing in bed with Grandma’s TLC, SO WHAT! So Effin what!
Geeze!
May 10th, 2009 at 7:58 am
The donkey = Walker?
Who took a 27 million $ paycut, and what does that have to do with JRuss?
He “took” the money?????? – WTF does that mean?
Why are you so worried about other people’s $?
May 10th, 2009 at 8:03 am
I dunno Jhill,his real rookie year he stood by and watched the season and team go down the drain.Where’s his pride in the team that drafted him.He reminds me of John “I wont play 4 the colts”Elway.hated Elway his whole career and still do.Terry Bradshaw went to a 1-13 stealers team,didnt complain and was happy as a pig in slop 2 be there.Hated Bradshaw his whole career BUT I ALWAYS HAD THE RESPECT 4 HIM.Jabling stood there and watched his teammates fight tooth and claw 4 a losing record and wouldnt budge untill HIS money was right.At least the donkey offered 2 give it back
I dont know,I was sooo happy when we drafted him,I wish he was as happy 2B here
May 10th, 2009 at 8:10 am
In my eyes he dont work hard enough…
Cable called him out about being the face of the organization.One would think he would ALREADY understand this.
Walker hasnt produced and took a big pay-cut,I wonder if Jmac would do the same,you know restructure so others could stay on the team
May 10th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Yes I still believe he can be one of the best ever,but he gonna have 2 want it.As of now I cant tell
May 10th, 2009 at 8:12 am
yes russell held out his rookie season.but kiffen should have started playing him sooner.
May 10th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Even though he has been at the facility working sense the end of the season? What you want him to come in at 6am on his off day instead of 10 am?
May 10th, 2009 at 8:17 am
And it’s not that I care how much he makes,its not my money,it’s that with 30mill maybe we could’ve got a WR like C.Johnson,at DT like Ngata and a couple of F/A
May 10th, 2009 at 8:25 am
this doesn’t sound encouraging at all. Russell can blame the rust on May all he wants but the reality is he was having problems with mid range accuracy, touch, and an overall diversity in his throwing arsenal last year. It doesn’t appear that he has done anything on his own to develop.
May 10th, 2009 at 8:26 am
I want him 2 do whatever it takes 2 make his passes accurate.He been playing QB his whole life.
Well he did progress at the end of last season I just thought he could pick it up and be better 1st day of camp than last camp
May 10th, 2009 at 8:27 am
my sentiments EXACTLY I Dress In Black
May 10th, 2009 at 8:31 am
It doesn’t appear that he has done anything on his own to develop
It seems 2 me he just dont care
I’m willing 2 bet every poster on this site would have taken it upon themselves and worked ALL OFF-SEASON 4 the organization 2 correct this.
Square 1 anyone???
May 10th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Looks like there is more about the Raiders mini-camp slow start and implications for the regular season….sigh…maybe you guys are right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frsId3goYYE
May 10th, 2009 at 8:32 am
sorry Jhill walker=donkey
May 10th, 2009 at 8:35 am
4evaRaider,
the lions won 0 games with johnson last year.espn is about to talk about dhb.since they had a reporter there.
May 10th, 2009 at 8:35 am
Whoa SnB Defence YIKES
May 10th, 2009 at 8:35 am
With the Oline they have JR has a lot to adjust to anyway. I’m just glad they got Garcia, he makes very good plays on the run, lol. If JR is as lazy as you guys are saying he’ll never get away from the D and won’t last the first game. Eating dounuts on the way to the ground. hahaha
May 10th, 2009 at 8:37 am
SnB Defense ,
and only the bad things in practice.not schilens,dmac and tommy kelly who look great.
May 10th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Being gifted can only take you so far at some point you reach a level that in order to improve you need to work hard just like everyone else
I would just like to see more of a demonstration of commitment from him.
Some examples might be:
Show up to camp 30 pounds lighter
Hire a personal QB coach to help with your footwork (Tom Brady did this)
Make a statement to the media that you have been throwing balls in the backyard 8 hours a day to improve
Perhaps acknowledge that you are looking forward to working with Garcia and learning from him (if he has said this and I missed it, I take it back)
May 10th, 2009 at 8:38 am
and the Ravens went 2 the play-offs with Ngata
May 10th, 2009 at 8:39 am
And the Falcons went 2 the play-offs with a rookie QB and so did the Ravens
May 10th, 2009 at 8:44 am
4eva,SnB about thta youtube clip:
I’ll have a full blown panic attack if JR kicks his girlfriend out of his car on the highway naked. HELL I’ll crap myself if Garcia kicks his boyfriend out of his car on the highway naked!!! lol
May 10th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Matt Ryan had started more games at the college level than JR had started college/nfl combined. There is a lot to be said about that type of experience.
It will be interesting to watch if that really matters with Sanchez in NY as he only started a total of 16 games for USC
May 10th, 2009 at 8:44 am
blackdeath29 Says:
May 10th, 2009 at 8:37 am
SnB Defense ,
and only the bad things in practice.not schilens,dmac and tommy kelly who look great.
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And the bad things aren;t that big a deal. Its practice…the first mini-camp of the year. Not the 3rd week of training camp…not the 3rd preseason game…we are talking about the 3rd 2-hour mini-camp session of the year.
So is Tommy Kelly headed to the Pro-Bowl…is Schilens on his way to the HOF?
Gimmie a break…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frsId3goYYE
May 10th, 2009 at 8:44 am
A lot of things factor into a winning season.I would think DESIRE would be at the top of the list
May 10th, 2009 at 8:45 am
Yep I think i will slowly make my way 2 the water-keg,dum-de-dum.Sure hope they have doughnuts
May 10th, 2009 at 8:45 am
“We talk’n about PRACTICE!” Not the game…we’re talking about practice man…how silly is that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frsId3goYYE
May 10th, 2009 at 8:51 am
Plenty of examples of Russell being accurate listed above in 42 …
Don’t care to talk about those, huh?
May 10th, 2009 at 8:51 am
That will be interesting and great point IDIB
May 10th, 2009 at 8:53 am
I’d rather talk about these
russell throws behind mcfadden … not to belabor the point, just hard not to notice
May 10th, 2009 at 8:53 am
The Raiders road to success
http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2009/05/09/sp-raiders10_ph3_0500125922.jpg
May 10th, 2009 at 8:56 am
“I have guys who are new targets for the ball. I try to put the ball in great places to give the team a chance to catch it,” Russell said. “That’s what we’ve got practice for.”
May 10th, 2009 at 8:57 am
SnB Defense ,
you got to admit it sounds good that kelly is ready to go.now we need a nt to step up.
May 10th, 2009 at 8:57 am
I didnt know the Michelin Man played 4 us lol
May 10th, 2009 at 9:00 am
blackdeath29 Says:
May 10th, 2009 at 8:57 am
SnB Defense ,
you got to admit it sounds good that kelly is ready to go.now we need a nt to step up.
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Its good to hear that Kelly seems to be going at it with extra energy. However, the Raiders are installing a new offense and are re-teaching the defense. They are also trying to mesh together a new football team with the draft picks, free agents and new coaches.
The thing I want to hear from camp is that they are all participating. To me the biggest disappointment thus far has been Javon Walker and Arman Shields.
May 10th, 2009 at 9:02 am
4evaRaider
I have read your comments on this blog and you usually have positive thoughts, and some optimisim.
Your comments in here today have a whiny, perspective due to a May mini-camp. I would figure you could see the information being reported is all negative, based on a reporter, who is just reporting what he sees.
Are their missed passes, drops and confusion, there are. This is the time to become familiar with our new offense,terminology, and players.
The media has only one spin, negative and you are buying it hook line and sinker.
The Jamarcus weight issue has been commented on way to much, with some comments in this blog for his weight, and they saw him and he looks so out of shape. Bill Williamson in his AFC west blog says he thought Jamarcus looked in good shape, this was Friday, and yet we have different opinions on his shape.
Get a grip fellas, this is practice, have a good Mother’s day and chill.
May 10th, 2009 at 9:04 am
4evaRaider,
no the falcon went to the playoffs with a rookie qb.the ravens went with defense.
May 10th, 2009 at 9:05 am
bydavidwhite – more mcfadden in the slot, catching russell passes in full stride.
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Did he say passes? With an S!?!?!?!
May 10th, 2009 at 9:07 am
#14(in yards)–Ben Roethlisberger (27), 281 of 469, 59.9% for 3,301, 206.3 per game with 17 TDs and 15 INTs, 46 Sacks. 80.1 QB rating.
#13–Matt Ryan(23), 434 att, 3440 yards, 61%, 215 per game with 16 TDs and 11 picks, 17 sacks and a 87 rating.
#20–Joe Flacco(24), 428 att, 2971 yards, 60%, 185 yards per game with 14 TDs and 12 INTs, 32 sacks committed, good for a 80.3 rating
#26–JaMarcus Russell (23), 198 of 368, 53.8% for 2,423, 161.5 per game with 13 TDs, 8 INTs, 38 sacks. 77.1 QB rating.
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hes not that far off of the guys that are, rightfully, heralded here statistically anyway. this is the NFL
we are a very young team that got a year older. if we play better overall as a team and evantually start winning, JaMarcus “Antonius” Russell is not gonna be the reason we cant go places…project the aTtemt numbers and hes better then Flacco and Rothlisbooty
we are a 5-11 team and should have more patience with the guys and let the coaches work on identifying and correcting the basic elements of the game such as penaltys, holdings and false starts that they have successfully attacked which where essantial in the late season run. how fast we all forget huh? now if CC can correct two, three of the basics such as tackling, padlevel and accountability on defense, were on our way.
btw, I love the zone-blitz we seem to be implementing on defense.
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May 10th, 2009 at 9:08 am
On the contrary SnB …
Let’s get this out of the way now with Walker and Shields. I have no problem with Murphy, Chaz, and DHB getting most of the reps.
Something that does not surprise me is JLH still getting the routes wrong. Disappointing, but not surprising. Chaz and DHB will start, and I hope/want Murphy to beat out JLH for the #3 WR spot.
May 10th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Roethlisberger,Ryan,Flacco,brady
put these guys on Detroit or KC queefs, Cinc, what are they going to do?? 6-10 4-12?
I just hope we stop the run when we need to.
May 10th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Well sorry 4 being a little whiny bitch=)Its only May and I hoped 4 more.It’s a good day 2 be a Raider fan and I am optimistic about the team
May 10th, 2009 at 9:17 am
Man I was starting 2 harsh my own buzz.I guess I expect a lot out of our QB,especially 2 be prepared mentally and psychically.
May 10th, 2009 at 9:17 am
“Ryan and Flacco went to the playoffs as rookies”
Yeah, but Matt Ryan had Roddy White and Michael Jenkins to throw to, they combined for 138 catches and 2159 yards.
Joe Flacco had Derrick Mason and Mark Clayton, they combined for 121 catches and 1732 yards.
Russell’s two leading wide receivers, Curry and JLH, combined for 41 catches and 547 yards.
You can even take out Roddy and Mason, Clayton and Jenkins each produced better numbers by themselves than JLH and Curry combined.
- Not to mention the fact that Russell had to endure a major distraction to start the season, the Davis vs Kiffin fiasco, which also led to 3 different coaches calling the plays, you think Ryan and Flacco would have fared any better?.
May 10th, 2009 at 9:17 am
JHill,
Actually I like your take. Schilens, JLH, DHB and Murphy gettin more reps. You are right…I would have actually preferrred this if given the choice. Although, it would have been nice to see Shields, but no big deal.
Cable said he would like to keep 6 receivers on the roster….Unless there are surprises or there is any cutting bait..it will probably be DHB, Schilens, JLH, Murphy, Walker and Shields
May 10th, 2009 at 9:20 am
4evaRaider Says:
May 10th, 2009 at 9:17 am
Man I was starting 2 harsh my own buzz.I guess I expect a lot out of our QB,especially 2 be prepared mentally and psychically.
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I am sure he is prepared. For better or for worse, the Raiders are installing a new offense and Russell will be getting a new set of starting receivers.
If balls are falling on the ground come the 3rd pre-season game…then there is some cause for concern…and even then…its still about the actual regular season games
May 10th, 2009 at 9:22 am
you talkin about “practice” SnB lol
May 10th, 2009 at 9:22 am
In the words of our immortal leader, “Just win, baby.”
Russell is never going to be like Manning or Montana or Stabler. He is going to be like Russell.
Can he carry the team alone? No.
Will he screw up? Yes.
Can he win? No doubt.
May 10th, 2009 at 9:23 am
SnB
Your comment is below, who is inactive game day, and who plays special teams.
The players mentioned below have to play on special teams, so DHB, Walker will not play special teams, so Schilens and JLH and Murphy will. Who them becomes inactive game day.
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Cable said he would like to keep 6 receivers on the roster….Unless there are surprises or there is any cutting bait..it will probably be DHB, Schilens, JLH, Murphy, Walker and Shields
May 10th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Move along, nothing to see here…
May 10th, 2009 at 9:28 am
My biggest worry bill parcels didn’t want sampson tom cable did who has the better track record i better not see grove in the pro-bowl
May 10th, 2009 at 9:28 am
Saint
What’s up Smella?
May 10th, 2009 at 9:28 am
If Shields can’t get healthy, IR him for one more year. No big deal.
I say we get in the market for Toomer, and maybe look for Holland or Watkins to get that 6th spot.
May 10th, 2009 at 9:28 am
Raider Dell ,
i don`t know about shields.he might be on the bubble.
May 10th, 2009 at 9:29 am
I love the guy I do.I hope he rises 2 the highest high.But I dont care anymore who you are,if you cant produce you cant play.Jmac will be the starter but like everyone else has said NO SCHOLERSHIPS
May 10th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Grove in the Pro Bowl would be hilarious!
Grove was a good player, he just couldn’t stay healthy.
All you need to know about Satele is that he is better than any C we could have gotten in the 3rd round!
May 10th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Grove got pushed around by DTS also. Think we got the better end of this deal. Any word if Barnes is getting a look a right tackle.
May 10th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Grove in the pro-bowl would be a Huge embarrassment 2 our organization,imo
May 10th, 2009 at 9:32 am
4eva,
Just tell me what you didn’t like about how JRuss ended the season?
On top of that, what did you expect him to do after the season ended? Get into the facilty and go to work right away, right? He’s done exactly that, so what’s the problem?
His OTs have been upgraded, as have his WRs.
Dmac and Bush will be featured.
What’s the problem?
May 10th, 2009 at 9:33 am
BlackDeath29
That’s my point, why would you have a WR on the team if he can’t play special teams, or is inactive every game.
The Raiders on game day usually carry 4 WR’S, 4 backs,
3 tightends. Your WR,’s the #3 and 4 must play special teams.
The guys who can’t play special teams will not make the roster.
May 10th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Walker informed former coach Lane Kiffin of his decision to retire a week into training camp last season. Kiffin directed Walker to managing general partner Al Davis.
Davis talked Walker out of giving back his $11 million signing bonus and retiring, which Walker offered to do.
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This next to how he handled Marcus Allen is big Al’s worst move ever.
May 10th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Why would that be an embarrasement?
Are you saying we should have given Grove the contract that Miami gave him?
If he finally stays healthy for 16 games and plays at a pro bowl level, I don’t see how that reflects on the Raiders at all.
May 10th, 2009 at 9:36 am
If Walker can come back healthy it would be a big plus to our offense. At this point we are all thowing in the towel on this guy. Could be a suprise since we are not expecting anything from him
May 10th, 2009 at 9:41 am
# hellsbells Says:
May 10th, 2009 at 9:36 am
If Walker can come back healthy it would be a big plus to our offense. At this point we are all thowing in the towel on this guy. Could be a suprise since we are not expecting anything from him
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Throwing in the towel on this guy? Come on man, i would like to throw this b1tch off a bridge. How can a player have surgery without notifying his team? Not to mention he hasn’t been at the Raiders facility ONCE this offseason.
May 10th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Jhill;Even the last 2 games of last year he still couldnt put the ball right on target.That 3rd and 9 to Chaz,it took all of his 6′-4″ frame 2 get the ball,if Bush didnt come alive I dought we win that one.There were games last year where Jmac couldnt hit anyone.I’m saying he needs 2 work harder thats all.He looks out of condition 2 me.
And because we couldnt get a pro-bowl out of him but Miami could,you cant see the embarrassment in that
May 10th, 2009 at 9:45 am
I agree but, with the way he redid his contract I do not think we will cut him because his money is guarenteed. You now Al hates paying people who are not on the roster. Just looking for a silver lineing in this piece.
May 10th, 2009 at 9:46 am
And hell no we shouldnt give him 15mill,he aint worth 1 mill 2 me
And I know what I saw most of last year Jmac has accuracy issues and it looks like a pattern is evolving here,imo
May 10th, 2009 at 9:48 am
It’s only May. Quit tripping on the JaBlingster JaBlubber. ITS ONLY MAY, and Jerry always spins negativity, aren’t you used to it by now?
May 10th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Look i dont care how you are what guys you have playing ..if you dont keep a system in place and not change it year after fing year no one will succed in an offense… Russel had to change systems 4 game in last year..Lance and Knapp had a diffrent system then Cable and Knapp…now he has Cable, Tollner and Hackett…WTF just keep thing the same for more the 10 games and maybe we can get somewhere…Get off the kids jock and let him LEARN ONE system before you start calling him out
May 10th, 2009 at 9:51 am
If Grove stays healthy,something he could never do here,and a large part of staying healthy is being conditioned the right way.I said many times we are not in good enough condition.It would prove the fins strength&conditionong program is better than ours and that they could get more out of a player than we do.You dont think Big Al felt a lil embaressment when Marcus ran all over us and scored all those TD’s
May 10th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Anyway I hope JaMarkus Russell works hard and is worthy of the trust and hope Big Al has put on him
May 10th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Captain Morgan calls
May 10th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Whispers — NFC
By PFW staff
May 10, 2009
— We hear Packers head coach Mike McCarthy plans on broadening the team’s zone blocking scheme to include more gap and power plays.
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biter. McCarthy must be reading Raider blogs. or simply knows what hes talking about. (how did the game pass AD again?)
May 10th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Now that the Packers have instituted a new zone blocking system, rumor has it that they are heavily interested in Raider RB Michael Bush. My source tells me that this has given ongoing talks with the Bengals a new wrinkle. An official inside the Packers organization has stated that the Packers are willing to give up a second rounder for the disgruntled Bush and WR Javon Walker. Look for a trade before training camp with either the Bengals or Packers. Stay tuned my friends.
May 10th, 2009 at 10:15 am
When asked about a possible trade involving M. Bush, Raider front office man John Herrera is quoted as saying: “Lets have some fun, this beat is sick, I wan’t to take a ride on your disco stick.” Read into that what you may.
May 10th, 2009 at 10:20 am
BEER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 10th, 2009 at 10:23 am
We probably should trade Bush if McFadden is the way forward. Besides, we have Russell for 3rd and 1 and Fargas and DMC as a 1-2 punch or at least Fargas can be rotated in when DMC gets tired…
May 10th, 2009 at 10:27 am
“The Oakland Raiders are shopping running back Michael Bush, and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are interested in trading for him. Bucs fans will remember Bush for his breakout game vs. Tampa Bay in Week 17 of the 2008 season when he rushed for 177 yards and two touchdowns.” Feb 27, 2009, Pewter Report
But still a possibility?
May 10th, 2009 at 10:27 am
[...] a rough morning session according to reports. Here’s the tidbit on Heyward-Bey from the Contra Costa-Times: After a rough morning practice that included dropped passes and counsel from Jeff Garcia, wide [...]
May 10th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Nuggets in 4.
May 10th, 2009 at 10:33 am
lol watch out its just that troll “Space” having fun with yall. Bush is not going anywhere.
May 10th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Space(as in between the ears)-Troll. lol how you like that Troll?
May 10th, 2009 at 10:35 am
N-U-G-G-E-T-S
May 10th, 2009 at 10:38 am
http://www.raidersgab.com/2009/05/04/al-davis-the-alpha-and-omega/
What do you guys think of the article? I’m unconvinced…i’m sure he WAS good but now….? just one player? (Asamugha)
May 10th, 2009 at 10:40 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
May 10th, 2009 at 8:39 am
And the Falcons went 2 the play-offs with a rookie QB and so did the Ravens
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You can’t compare those two players to us. The Falcons went to the NFC Championship game 3 years before Ryan arrived. Baltimore won 13 games two years before Flaccos arrival. When you take a QB number one overall, it signifies you are NOT a very good team in a lot of areas. Now, if Stafford takes Detroit the playoffs this next year, talk to me then.
May 10th, 2009 at 10:42 am
“Hopefully he can just absorb the knowledge that I’m able to lend to him.”- Jeff Garcia talking about Russell.
The key word there is “hopefully”. It means one of two things. Either Garcia thinks, like Cable, that Russell isn’t “stepping up” or Jeff just plain wants the job. Of course, it could be both.
Russell has an arm as we all know. This year will show whether he is the field general that we need.
He really doesn’t appear to have been working on his deficiences during the offseason.
He should be making that short stuff by now.
As many have pointed out, Snake Stabler didn’t exactly work out during the offseason and yet he did it on the field but Snake really didn’t have deficiencies anyway.
I completely commend his intake of liquid refreshment and his determination to give all members of the opposite sex an equal break.
I was watching again that Mitchell interview with the press. Now here is a motivated individual. This guy is going to work his arse off. Maybe he could be a role model for JR although JR already has Garcia.
You have to wonder though why a guy making $30 million needs a role model.
It’s early days though and Russell played well in the last three games of last year.
He needs to get it together though relative to footwork, reading the opposition, and those short passes.
If he doesn’t we could be seeing M. Vick showing up and that would really p!ss of my now dead Golden Retreiver.
May 10th, 2009 at 10:47 am
I agree J Russ seems as if he hasn’t done anything, he seems far too laid back. That’s the problem with the huge rookie salaries… Now a guy like Sanchez is exactly what’s required at QB….his motivation is incredible!
May 10th, 2009 at 10:47 am
or Sanchez and the jets
May 10th, 2009 at 10:53 am
I wonder if we get to hear more about hawks eating snakes again today, I’m eager to find out.
May 10th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Trading Bush would be a mistake. You can tell that just based on the number of clubs that are willing to trade for him alone.
We need all three backs:Bush, McFadden and Fargas.
If any of the three is expendable it’s Fargas although I hate to say that and I don’t want to see him traded. Fargas is a natural Raider. He tends though to get injured due to his Tora Tora!, test-dummy style of play.
We need McFadden ouside and Bush, spelled by Fargas, going down the middle.
We waited two years for Bush just to get over his injury.
Now have a premium back.
Why trade him?
May 10th, 2009 at 10:57 am
I know all the adversity of last year,but to not score a TD in 16 straight quarters kinda makes you wonder.
May 10th, 2009 at 10:57 am
or was it 6 quarters???
May 10th, 2009 at 10:58 am
QB talk from yesterday…
Jeff Garcia: “[Russell] looks to be growing mentally. He looked smooth out there. He had a good approach and did a good job out on the field and that stands from what they asked him to do during the offseason.”.
“I’m not going to shy away if he made a read that maybe was wrong or if he did not make the right decision for some sort of reason. It is something that we can talk about and hopefully he can just absorb the knowledge that I’m able to lend to him.”
JaMarcus Russell: “It is a team sport so you have to be a team player. I have done everything that they have asked me to do to be a leader for my team, being a quarterback and knowing the ropes and what to do to bring everybody together.”
“It’s the same I get out of every single practice, another day of work, having the chance to get out and get better at your profession.”.
Russell said of Garcia: “He brings a lot with his personality. He is a good people person, [with] good people skills both on and off the field.”
Andrew Walter: “JaMarcus is getting a lot better and working real hard and Jeff is a proven veteran and it’s good to have him around.”.
May 10th, 2009 at 10:59 am
If a hawk flies over you and has a snake in it’s talons,lore has it that is good luck =)
May 10th, 2009 at 10:59 am
What’s up nation.
Jhill,
I like what you said about people accepting JR.
He has to be like me to accept him!!!!!!! That sounds Racist to me!!!
May 10th, 2009 at 11:03 am
@ 142 – so where does RB Russell fit in? I think we only need 3 backs…
May 10th, 2009 at 11:07 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
May 10th, 2009 at 10:20 am
BEER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Summer is here ENGLANDRAIDER;it’s Captain Morgan time,lots of ice rum and strawberrys or banana’s
May 10th, 2009 at 11:08 am
4eva says lore has it that a hawk flying over you with a snake is good luck.
Yeah, for the hawk.
I remember a relative of mine telling me that if a bird sh!ts on you it’s good luck.
I tried to thinking of that one day when I was walking along and a pigeon made a deposit on my shoulder.
I must admit though that I’m slightly superstitious.
If I was trying to kill myself, I would never jump off the thirteenth floor.
That would have to be bad luck.
May 10th, 2009 at 11:08 am
It’s not summer here yet. I’m up in York and the weather hasn’t been brilliant!
May 10th, 2009 at 11:10 am
4eva says summer is here.
Well sort of since I’m here in England.
I’m with you on the Captain Morgan stuff though.
May 10th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Centurian, you’re up in York huh.
That is a nice city.
Welcome. Raiders uber alles.
May 10th, 2009 at 11:14 am
91 and hot here =)
May 10th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Bob Marley:
You were posting some interesting stuff about what Marshall might do on defense.
I guess we’re going to see a lot more of the blitz?
May 10th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Hey Raider O!
How is everything?
May 10th, 2009 at 11:17 am
RaiderDell post 88
Marley Esq. post 145
Nothing more needs to be added. Well done my friends.
May 10th, 2009 at 11:21 am
First post here, and man, I just don’t get all the negativity around JR.
Sure, he could do this better, or do that better, but he’s a young developing QB. It’s normally between years 2 and 3 before the light comes on for these young QB’s. Someone mentioned Manning earlier, well Eli’s QB rating in years one and two was 55 and 75, and Peyton in his 1st year threw 28 int’s and had a QB rating of 71.2 as Indy won 5 games!
Elway and Aikman both struggled early on. Rivers didn’t even start until year 3 and I remember Shottenheimer would barely let him throw the ball that year! The rook in Baltimore put up very similar numbers to JR’s on a much better team, with no off field distractions and an above avg receiving corps. Despite that, all you hear around the league is how great Flacco is and how this is a make or break season for JR.
He deserves a 2nd full season before he gets that kind of criticism. Especially since he improved as the season went on last year, despite ALL the BS that went down with the organization.
May 10th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Yeh York is really great! Where you from ENGLANDRAIDER? How long you been a Raiders fan?
May 10th, 2009 at 11:26 am
England,
Hey, Hey, Heeey!!! lol
I broke my Bong dude!!
My Sour Bong, she was so good to me, I called her Mercy.
May 10th, 2009 at 11:27 am
RuffRaider,
welcome aboard and well done.
May 10th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Well maybe if he didnt hold out his 1st year he would be further along and we wouldnt be saying all this.But he did hold out when his team needed him and so he gets what he gets,imo
May 10th, 2009 at 11:29 am
I bought another Sour one, but I really miss Mercy. She hits like Iron Mike in his prime.
RIP Mercy. lol
May 10th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Centurian:
I would hope that Russell is going to fit in as the starting quarterback. The man has a great arm. You’d think he would have been working on his skills more during the off season.
That said, he played much better under Cable than he did under Kiffin.
Watching the press conferences of Mitchell and HB during the minicamp I have to say that I wish that JR had the same kind of drive as those two guys.
They’re both kind of impressive and apparently pretty smart. Whether they make it or not is one thing but I don’t think they’re going to fail because they are not hungry enough.
Cable is really intent on getting talented young guys with the right attitude who want to play not just show up and thank Al for the paycheck.
May 10th, 2009 at 11:32 am
4eva,
Why you trippin!!! Are you out?? lol
JR will be fine bro.
May 10th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Thanks M L…. the encouraging news I keep hearing out of camp is Tommy Kelly, could he actually play up to that contract this year?
Let’s face it, our D has no where to go but up.. lol
May 10th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Raider O
Mercy! You broke your bong!
That’s real tough.
May 10th, 2009 at 11:33 am
What’s up M?
May 10th, 2009 at 11:34 am
England,
Life is tough!!! lol
LMAO
May 10th, 2009 at 11:36 am
England,
Other than that, all is well. lol
How are you?
May 10th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Raider O
4eva is not trippin, he just wants to hear some positive news, and who could blame him.
To believe their is positive news from a mini camp would be hysterical. The players are together for the first time in organized activities, since the 2008 season ended, yet they are expected to perform like the season just ended.
The other teams mini camps have the same comments from other media writers. Be concerned , yet temper your bad thoughts, we will improve, it’s takes time, it’s only May.
May 10th, 2009 at 11:45 am
i read the blogs and i am on 4eva’s side.. someone said it takes some qb’s 5 years to come of age….how many qb’s u know become great after 5 years?..remember people,, this guy was 1st pick overall and it seems all we do is make excuses on why he isnt progressing..whether it was training camp etc etc…u can tell me all u want about his stats..but i dont get the feeling this guy can WIN games for us..there is a difference…and with dhb dropping passes…i was so disapointed..i was hoping he would be good..but he cant catch….rick dudley all over again…
May 10th, 2009 at 11:46 am
RuffRaider:
You make a lot of good points. As part of the Raider Nation though I think were are all sick of waiting for the team to pull it together. Six years of losing is six years too much.
Russell’s development has been a little slow. Kiffin didn’t play him because he said he didn’t know the playbook. With Cable in his second year plays were limited for the same reason.
Compare that with Mitchell who just got here.
When it comes to Russell. You have to say that his development is a little slow. Maybe that has something to do with Kiffin. That’s certainly true in the case of Mario and Chris Johnson.
The guy is very talented. It’s up to him to make it happen
This is the year when we find out about Russell. It’s up to him to show us.
Personally, I’m optimistic that he can do it.
May 10th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Dell,
How are you sir?
I think Jerry is hard on JR, and it shows in his reports. IMHO
It’s OTAs!!!
May 10th, 2009 at 11:49 am
ENGLAND RAIDER
Some stuff on John Marshall.
This is an overview of Marshall’s scheme from scouts inc. and espn, it’s from september 2008:
“Seattle runs a base 4-3 under coordinator John Marshall, with multiple blitz packages designed to harass quarterbacks from every conceivable angle.
There’s an emphasis on zone coverage and speed over size, especially in the front seven. Previously a read-and-react defense, the Seahawks have become very aggressive and now fly to the ball (Marshall is beginning to use more man-to-man coverages in hopes of creating big plays.)
The active linebacker unit is the key to their success, and LB Julian Peterson is a versatile weapon whose explosiveness sets the tone. But Seattle must improve the run defense, which could be difficult given the lack of size up front.”
- I remember their playoff win in january 2008 vs the Redskins, I was impressed with their Defense and they seemed to be all over Redskins QB Tod Collins, so I looked up that game and found the analysis, again, from scouts inc. and espn:
“If you haven’t paid much attention in the Northwest, Seattle has a pretty impressive defensive team led by LDE Patrick Kerney, MLB Lofa Tatupu, OLB Julian Peterson and shutdown corner Marcus Trufant.
Defensive coordinator John Marshall’s game plan was to shut down the Washington running game while overloading the right side with single zone pressure schemes in passing situations that placed a lot of pressure on rookie RT Stephon Heyer.
The Redskins countered by sliding their protection schemes toward Heyer, which forced LT Chris Samuels on an island in one-on-one situations on the backside with either Darryl Tapp or Peterson.
The Seahawks also did a good job in rotating their defensive linemen while aligning at different spots in sub to create mismatches that they exploited with four-man rush schemes.”
May 10th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Raider O I just hoped Jmac would have took it upon himself 2 better himself by practing every day,with the exception of the passing of his uncle.He should have,as our field general,made JLH,Chaz and whoever come to the park,any park to jump start the 31st passing attack in the nfl but…my bad
May 10th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Centurian:
Sorry, I missed that.
East Anglia.
I’ve been hooked since the days of Snake and Blanda coming in to win the game in the last few seconds.
There’s also a Tollworth(Surrey) Raider and a Scottish Raider who comes on here(with real detailed analysis) but you meet a lot of Raider fans who don’t know about Jerry’s blog.
We should tell ‘em.
Jerry’s got a family to support.
May 10th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Raider O
I’m doing great. The blog wants perfection in May, bring it on!
You know really is so funny, the comments in here who crucify the media, for all the Raider bashing and stupid comments, yet some in here parrot those same comments without any knowledge, just hear say or what others are saying.
I guess DHB, will always drop passes until he leaves football, he can catch everything in sight until he drops a pass. I guess Tim Brown drops, or Jerry Rice drops are different.
The body of work, takes time, some in here just want instant gratification.
May 10th, 2009 at 11:56 am
RaiderO,
have you ever looked for that book I mentioned, The Years of Rice and Salt?
To Whom It May Concern,
after having put up with Marc Wilson, Jay Schroeder, Todd Marinovich, Donald Hollas, Vince Evans, Rick Mirer, Wade Wilson, Jeff George, Kerry Collins, Daunte Culpepper, Josh McCown, Andrew’s Mom’s Kid, Andre Ware, Marques Tuiasasopo and God only knows how many other re-tread horrors and wasted choices, I am willing to give JRuss years to develop if he needs it as he seems both immensely talented and is working hard at his craft.
I understand that impatience may be regarded as a necessary virtue in this day and age, but in actuality it is not virtuous whatsoever.
May 10th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Jhill,
With all due respect, I remember when Joe Namath donned his white fur coat on the sidelines. Although I STILL don’t think that display was appropiate for him either, it least by THAT point in time in his career, Namath, (unlike Chubbustus), had clearly demonstrated that he had indeed earned the right to swing his Ba**s -perhaps partially measured as a function of HIS gaudy attire…
At this stage of his career,(…perpetual turnstyle Kwame Harris’ non-assistance notwithstanding), given both Chubbustus’ onorous lack of production coupled with questionable dedication and commitment issues
simply invites such critisism …..
This young man is only putting far more pressure on himself by his comportment…
Thus far, two good games and a 60% completion rate on checkdowns shows that he has, thus far, dispite his cannon arm, done nothing other than con “he -of -the -increasingly- heavier -drool- towel” of out thirty million dollars…..
May 10th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
4evaRaider Says:
If a hawk flies over you and has a snake in it’s talons,lore has it that is good luck =)
———————
Not for the snake.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
a. one complete insane team owner (al davis)
b. owner picks a qb with no brains. border line stupid IQ TEST IS A MUST…bust bust bust
c. owner picks a receiver with no hands……….. ..bust bust bust
d. a coach or hand puppet? …other then that.keep loving al davis..lol
RAIDERS WIN THE SUPERBOWL…IN A MILLION YEARS …go raiders
May 10th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
M,
No sir I haven’t, but it’s on my Book List. I haven’t been to B&N in a few months. lol
I get really distracted with the draft and OTAs.
Also this is the best time of the year for selling cars. That’s why I haven’t been here as much lately.
Gotta make money, you know!!
May 10th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Bob Marley:
Thanks for that.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
I’m not saying JR is ahead of schedule by any means England. But his circumstance is what it is, and it’s not entirely his fault. Do I wish he had Jeff Garcia’s work ethic – sure. Do I wish he was zipping his passes all on target during OTA’s, of course.
All I am saying is that he deserves the same amount of patience given all other young QB’s in this league. He DID improve last year, IMO anyway. All I was looking for was improvement out of him last year and I saw it. It was his 1st year under center, heck, I knew he would struggle through most of it. Throw in all the off the field BS, not too mention Kwame protecting his blind side, and I think he did a helluva job!
This year I expect to see more improvement. Do I expect JR to lead us to the playoffs this year, not even close. But 8-8 is reachable, and by the 2nd half I’d really like to see all the young kids on offense starting to click. If they do, it could really be something special (especially if the o-line starts to gel).
May 10th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
David white’s twitter feed starts at 12:15 for today apparently.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
RuffRaider, I think the O Line is the most important part of what yo just said.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
like that old farming addage:you reap what you sow
May 10th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
I think Fargas’ best role would to be our closer. Use Bush in the beginning of the game w/ lots of DMC. Get some big plays down the field with Schillens, DHB, and Higgins in the slot. Miller up the middle on some 3rd and short’s.
Fargas comes in when we’re up by 10 in the 4th qtr. Playing against a beat up, tired out, and confused defense where Fargas’ running style will be effective.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
M,
By the way, post 179- well said.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Twitter!!! I love it!!!
May 10th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
“Chubbustus”
LMAO
May 10th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
# DarthPirate Says:
May 10th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
RuffRaider, I think the O Line is the most important part of what yo just said.
……..
Agreed!
It takes time for an o-line to really develop chemistry and if nothing else, hopefully this unit will be intact for a while. Too bad what should be the starting 5 didn’t get any work together as a unit during this OTA, maybe next time.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Heyward Bey is out and Louis Murphy as well.
Don’t the Raiders’ first OTAs start on the 19th?
May 10th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
where do you guys see jrus talent…were all told how talented he is..but from what ive seen in him playing so far…is someone who doesnt look comfortable out there.no confidence..no fire…whom every once in awhile throws a strong fast completed pass.then were all saying “maybe he is gonna be that good”..then the next 10 passes are nothing to brag about…my patience is running thin on the guy is all im saying..
May 10th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Everyone is at Twitter getting their Fix!!
LMAO
May 10th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
C’mon fella’s – he’s just Big Bonedid! … lol
May 10th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
RuffRaider:
I agree with post#185. His circumstance has something to do with arsehole Kiffin. As I say he’s done a lot better with Cable.
He needs to become the leader of this team though and he hasn’t done that yet. As Cable says, he needs to step up.
We’re going to be much improved this year just based on continuity alone and I think you’e right about 8-8 or even 9-7.
The jury is out on Cable as a play caller but he sure looked a lot better to me than Kiffin and Knap.
There was that one Seabass play of course. The only thing I liked about that was Cable’s reaction to the press crtiicizing him for it.
He said he needed the team to know that he would do anything to win the game.
Some of that is rubbing off because Chaz and JLH definitely had some kamikazi moments in the Tampa Bay game.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Canadianraider,
You patience is running thin on 2nd year starter at QB!!
Patience. lol
May 10th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Mitchell not playing either??? Just as well we dont want him busting-up people yet
May 10th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Canadianraider,
By the way sir, it’s just a joke. I don’t mean any disrespect. lol
May 10th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Mike Mitchell out too. Jeesh.
And Canadian Raider, running out of patience with a guy after one or two years starting is not a good idea. Guys tend to start to click around year 2 or 3.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Chris O’neill is impressing again.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
So is Scott. I like that guy.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Trevor!!!!!!!!!
May 10th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
DP,
I wonder if he will be impressing at pre season. I hope so, we need 3 good TEs on the Rosrer. IMO
May 10th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
# DarthPirate Says:
May 10th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Chris O’neill is impressing again.
…………
He’s off to a real good start, anyone have any details on this kid?
May 10th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Ricky Brown 2 YEAH
May 10th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
They’re blitzing too. I hope they are actually going to do that, and are not just working the O Line.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Arman!!! Running!!!
May 10th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Russell hits Mcfadden in stride. THAT’S what we want to hear!
May 10th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Raider O how do you know Arman is running???
May 10th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Arman is out I thought.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
According to the twitter he’s out and Drisan James is in.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
i know what you guys are saying….i hope your right..but i dont see that much of an upside to justify that pick….the longer this goes on..the more i think he was all hype…..i do hope i am wrong..
darth..tell me some qbs who have clicked in their third year that started out as average as russel has so far…
May 10th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Come-On Jmac blow it up
May 10th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
I know it’s the 1st OTA and all, but the defensive scheme is sounding more aggressive than it’s been in years.
Sounds like what Bob Marley posted @ 175:
“Seattle runs a base 4-3 under coordinator John Marshall, with multiple blitz packages designed to harass quarterbacks from every conceivable angle”.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Oh No Kalif do not do Kwaaaaaameeeeeee
May 10th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
CanadianRaider, Eli Manning did. And he was getting booed off the field.
I’m not counting Russell as being a third year player, this will be his second full year starting.
Also I know Elway was terrible during his first year. I’m sure others know more about this than I do.
I’ve just heard many, many times that a QB will start to make jumps in his third year or so.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Also Jay Cutler.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Garcia misses by a mile on a deep route. No sh!t, that’s what he does.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Routt sounds like he’s balling it up so far this year.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
i can accept eli as an example..hope your right..
May 10th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Coverage sacks coming one after another here. Receivers cant get open apparently, which is no surprise with the guys that are out there.
May 10th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
shoulda been 6 to JLH
May 10th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Aikman only won one game his first season. I could be wrong, but I thought that’s what set-up the Emmit pick. His first few seasons he had like twice as many INT’s as TD’s. He was terrible – and if I’m not mistaken, he was also a No. 1 overall pick.
May 10th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
For what is worth…
Boise State TE Chris O’Neil is supposed to be 6′3 252 with 4.68 speed, started last season playing well for 4 games but broke his leg and missed the rest of the season.
Din’t produce much in College but I’ve read that Sanjay Lal Coached him in High School, that’s probably why he’s out there.
May 10th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Twitter keeps crapping out and not updating. I hate that site, but I’m desperate for some football lol.
May 10th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
YEAH! Slade Norris with the sack on another blitz! I’m loving the heat they’re bringing.
They’re really going after the offense hard.
May 10th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
SLADE!!!!
Al’s still got the magic touch baby…. lmao
May 10th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Minicamp is over. OTAs start May 19th.
May 10th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Slade has to be great with that name. That way the Chuck Norris jokes can continue.
May 10th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
It’s ov~er It’ ov~er It’s ov~er
May 10th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Man I’m sooo glad Rob Ryan is history
May 10th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Did Aikman hold-out his 1st year???
May 10th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
4eva,
My bad, arman is out.
Sometimes you read what you want to hear, you know!! lol
May 10th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
yeah mon =)
May 10th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
lol
May 10th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
I have no idea when Aikman signed as a rookie, but I do recall JR’s contract issue had a lot to do with Al Davis wanting to do things “his way”.
May 10th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
4eva you are sounding very negative ok he held out are you going to hold that against him forever how do you know if it was the agent who didnt like the contract and i keep seeing you write about his work ethic he was at the facilities the whole offseason except for the week his uncle died and his mom had surgery
May 10th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
4eva there were also alot of tweets about wr catching everything in sight im sure jruss was throwing some of those passes
May 10th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Poor lakers!!
Dakota,
Don’t break any tables, it’s not worth it.
May 10th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Dakota,
What is wrong with your lakers!!!!?????
LMAO
I hope you are OK.
May 10th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
I dunno 16 I think he has all the potential in da world,and I think he thinks he can get by with that.And he cant,imo
May 10th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Dakota,
I’m playing, you know!!
Don’t break anything!! lol
May 10th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Time for Derek Fisher to go MMA again.
May 10th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
67-40!!! Wow!!
May 10th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
MMA!!!!
LMAO
May 10th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
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May 10th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
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