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DHB, Mitchell, Murphy sit

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, May 10th, 2009 at 1:58 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders concluded their mandatory minicamp Sunday with three of their prominent draft picks sitting it out for precautionary measures.

Wide recievers Darrius Heyward-Bey and Louis Murphy and safety Mike Mitchell were spectators for the on-field portion of camp, which was graded as a “B-plus” by coach Tom Cable at its conclusion.

“I was pleased with the amount of work we got done, we got a lot of stuff taught,” Cable said. “We’ll come back for OTAs with more situational type play.”

The Raiders return for OTAs on May 19, the first of four three-day sessions similar to minicamps in format.

More to come later after going through interview sessions and practice notes . . .

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  • Raider-405

    Thanks Jerry!!!

  • 4evaRaider

    yo

  • 4evaRaider

    play 4: checkdown dumpoff to gary russell. there you go
    41 minutes ago from mobile web next play: handoff. we’ll do this til he gets one
    42 minutes ago from mobile web next play: coverage sack, with incomplete deep ball
    43 minutes ago from mobile web russell throws after coverage sack: pass at tight end’s ankles 5 yds away
    44 minutes ago from mobile web routt deflects deep russell pass to higgins, who had a step
    about 1 hour ago from mobile web tommy kelly offsides. think they’re getting tired out there
    about 1 hour ago from mobile web khalif barnes’ first false start. welcome to the team
    about 1 hour ago from mobile web garcia throws deep, misses by a mile. so it’s not just russell
    about 1 hour ago from mobile web now a coverage sack. defense remains ahead of offense.
    about 1 hour ago from mobile web russell highlight’ hit mcfadden in stride running right to left. a little behind him, but better
    about 1 hour ago from mobile web another lb bitz. theyre practicing it. we’ll see game time to know if it’s true
    about 1 hour ago from mobile web

  • RuffRaider

    If this is what Cable considers a B-plus practice just imagine what a C sounds like on twitter… lol

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  • Nnamdi21

    Lotta guys on the side line. The good news, its early

  • Nnamdi21

    The bad news will not stop coming from this draft – Oakland Raiders Forum | Message Board – Where the Raider Nation lives! Says:
    May 10th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
    [...] Posted by forum_ryder72 DHB, Mitchell, Murphy sit – Inside The Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly class… come on after one weekend for practice Everytime somebody posts a link to JM’s blog, I go back [...]

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    whats up with raider fans .net? These guys suck and add nothing to the conversation

  • Nnamdi21

    I wonder if Bey tweaked his hammy. Could plague him if he doesn’t rest it.

  • Nnamdi21

    Bet Walter stays on as the 3rd QB

  • 4evaRaider

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    May 10th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
    I wonder if Bey tweaked his hammy. Could plague him if he doesn’t rest it.

    Well at least we dont have the treachery of kiff this year as CC will let him rest,unlike kiff and Dmac

  • Terrapin

    Whats all the hoopla about? Some seem to be overly concerned about JR. First, its only the first minicamp in May. 2nd, Jeff Garcia (a 20,000 year vet!) reportedly looks worse or just as erratic as Russell. So just chillax. Its just May mini-practice. If the 20K year vet was lighten it up and JR was lookin’ like 3rd grade trash at the same time then I’ll be a “little” concerned.

    Give DHB and JR time to develop some chemistry. It will take time. Walker? I’m about ready to stick a fork in him. Dude may never heal and it surely doesn’t look like he’ll ever be near as good as he once was. But that’s the reality of the NFL.

    Watch out for Mitchell & Branch. They are the future.

    If Henderson confirms legitimacy at LT; then the 2007 draft will prove to be unbelievably solid. Just as everyone Raider assumed it to be. (If he goes to RT, its still pretty solid but better if LT). From the 2007 draft: Russell, Miller, Henderson, Higgins, ONeal, Bush and Richardson.

  • SnB Defense

    For those who think mini-camp is an approximation of the game…keep in mind Zach Miller wasn’t on the field either.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frsId3goYYE

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  • blackdeath29

    garcia only looked better than russel in the second practice on saturday.and every bay area news paper made sure we know that.

  • DarthPirate

    Can’t wait for OTAs. The A’s suck, the Sharks are out, the Heat got beaten down, I don’t like to watch soccer, all I have are the Raiders.

  • 4evaRaider

    Hey Terrapin long time no post!!!

    I guess the “to do” is I think Jmac is dogging it.Lots of posters are down on Fargas for this or that,but 1 thing they can never say is Fargas didnt give 110% in everything Raider.I can say with a CLEAR Conscious Jmac does not.Thats my bitch

  • SnB Defense

    Only Raider fans fall in love with retread QBs on their last leg. I for one am tired of the Jay Schroeder’s, Jeff Hostetler’s, Vince Evans, Don Hollas, Jeff George, Rich Gannon, Kerry Collins, Aaron Brooks, Daunte Culpepper, Josh McCown and now Jeff Garcia…..

    Gimmie a break. You cannot, nor will you ever, win consistently with old QBs. Teams don’t get rid of good QBs in the early stage or prime of their careers. I’ve only known two times that’s happened…Drew Brees and the debacle in Denver with Cutler.

    See what happened with Gannon…a couple of good years and nothing…you can’t build a team without a franchise type QB that can hold the position at a high level for 8 to 12 years….it takes time to develop those QBs too and takes good coaching, talent etc..

    Most QBs take 2 to 4 years to develop. Rivers, Eli & Peyton Manning, McNabb, Aaron Rogers, Tom Brady, Carson Palmer…all took a couple of years or more to get it right.

    Why shouldn’t Russell be afforded the same development time? Especially when playing for such a dysfunctional organization such as the Raiders have been

  • Terrapin

    I haven’t been paying much attention lately but I recently read that JR was at Raider activities practically all offseason save a week or so due to a family death. So why would you be concerned?

    Reports that he was overweight etc seem to be overblown a-g-a-i-n. The media is just trash …pouncing on anything potentially ‘hot’ just to get readers during the offseason.

  • blackdeath29

    j-russ misses 1 week and the bay area media jumps all over him.david white and espn has alot of people suckered.

  • Terrapin

    As usual, its the lines that concern me. They need legit tackles big time. Just stick a fork in Green. Hopefully Henderson pans out. We’ll see how the new Center fairs.

    We’ll see if Kelly is worth the money. Last year I didn’t expect too much from him coming off injury and all. But now I expect him to be fully “back”.

  • 4evaRaider

    Eli&Peyton,McNabb and the others didnt hold out.Now beside 4 the fact you hold out,you are missing out.After awhile,still holding out,you’re teammates desperatley need you and you still hold out.Sooo maybe when you finally get into camp or season maybe you have ruffled some feathers and Mr.30 million dollar man has pissed some people off.Yes 16 I still hold his holding out against him because it is still having ramifactions with-in the team.And who knows how deep this goes???

  • Terrapin

    If the Raiders can somehow get their lines in shape this team can be unbelievably good. I mean lights out good. Its pretty hard to think of another team w/ the same level of talent the Raider have at the skill positions. Fix the lines and it will show.

  • DarthPirate

    That’s a huge if though.
    —————-
    Terrapin Says:
    May 10th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    If the Raiders can somehow get their lines in shape this team can be unbelievably good. I mean lights out good. Its pretty hard to think of another team w/ the same level of talent the Raider have at the skill positions. Fix the lines and it will show.

  • blackdeath29

    4evaRaider,
    you should be a philly fan.they say stuff that don`t make any since about mcnabb.they formed their opinion on draft day and it never changed.that`s is what you sound like with russell.you formed your opinion on the hold out and will never change.

  • 4evaRaider

    Correct me if I’m wrong but I seem 2 remember a lot of camera shots of Jabling sitting alone with his bling

  • RuffRaider

    # Terrapin Says:
    May 10th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    As usual, its the lines that concern me. They need legit tackles big time. Just stick a fork in Green. Hopefully Henderson pans out. We’ll see how the new Center fairs.

    We’ll see if Kelly is worth the money. Last year I didn’t expect too much from him coming off injury and all. But now I expect him to be fully “back”.

    …………..

    Kelly made some noise at the OTA, but you’re right Terrapin – he has to play to that huge contract. To this day I still can’t understand why we paid him so much at the time.

    Hopefully by the next OTA the projected starting line will start working as a unit… if Satele can get on the field. Not to downplay the talent issue, but IMO what’s more important is for the unit to come together and start to gel. That usually happens about 1/2 way through a season, maybe a bit sooner, but the point is our starting 5 needs as much time as they can get working together as a unit.

  • SnB Defense

    So Russell is supposed to accept less money than all the other top draft picks?

    Did you see the money Stafford got? Matt Ryan? Jake Long?

    Look, I don’t like the system either, but why should Russell be the guyh to take the charge. Al Davis and his “old” ways of doing things needed to change. Why didn’t they work on getting him signed before the draft? Why didn’t they play Calvin Johnson’s, Brady Quinn’s and Russell’s agents against each other to get the price down?

    That hold out was all on Al Davis. He could have picked someone else if he didn’t want to pay out the money that he ended up having to pay out anyway!

    Would you take less money then you think you were worth? I know the situations of a pro athlete are comparable to what we have to deal with….but still…would you take less money if you believe someone else would pay it?

    That hold out was all on Al

  • SnB Defense

    Of course Russell, Garcia and the receivers all should be working closely together between now and training camp.

    Also remember that Miller wasn’t out there and this is still just practice!

  • 4evaRaider

    Russell held out and his hold out is still having ramifactions on this team.If he were the 1st one in every morning and the last one 2 leave at night then my opinion of him will have changed because he will have changed

  • blackdeath29

    SnB Defense is right the hold out is on al.but if you look at it.al was right in the fact that system is wrong and should not have to pay that much for a rookie.now 2 draft`s later everybody wants the commish to put in a rookie salery cap.al was just 2 years to early.

    p.s.russell was right not to except less money.

  • 4evaRaider

    Blackdeath29 obviously YOU should be a philly fan because you know soo much about them ALREADY

  • 4evaRaider

    but he was wrong 2 hold out.If it wasnt 4 the #6 and the #10 rushing offence Russell would have been waaaaaaay exposed

  • blackdeath29

    4evaRaider,
    no should be like you a hold things against a player from two years ago.

  • RuffRaider

    I’ll stand behind by my earlier comment that Al Davis was the cause of JR’s rookie holdout. You draft a QB No. 1 overall – you have to pay.

    Al wanted the contract written his way. I will find an article if you’d like, but from what I remember it had to do with how Al wanted the guaranteed money structured. How can you blame a guy for making sure he is getting a fair shake, especially a No. 1 overall pick? Plus, why didn’t Al have him signed before picking him, it seems every other NFL team does that with the # 1 overall, so why not us? Once again, off the field mis-management affecting our on the field play. That has been a theme for a while now IMO and not one player is to blame either.

  • RuffRaider

    Now, if JR held out while he was already “under contract”, that would be an entirely different story. But JR’s agents were not being unreasonable at the time, Al wanted it his way and “his way” is just not how it’s done in this league when it comes to signing the No. 1 overall pick.

  • 4evaRaider

    well why the hell not If I’m gonna pay you ANY amount of money I am contractually bound but…I have no guarantee you are gonna be worth it.You could be Todd Marinovich 4 all I know

  • RuffRaider

    You’re right it’s a gamble, but if you don’t want to pay fair market value for the No. 1 overall pick in the draft the answer is very simple, trade the damn pick!

    The market determines the value, not Al Davis or anyone else. The system needs to change, YES, but when trying to build a winning football team an owner shouldn’t take it upon himself to hurt his team over some unreasonable principle. That is exactly what Al did with the JR contract.

  • 4evaRaider

    You have a valid point but… Jmac still could have been in camp with some sort of insurance policy in place,its been done B4.Jmac’s hold-out is still having negitive ramifactions,imo

  • SnB Defense

    4evaRaider,

    The problem is you are asking Russell to take less money than others of his comparable status at that time. Who would do that? Labor unions don’t do that. How many strikes (hold-outs) have we seen in industry. Corporate executives don’t do it. Top Hollywood actors and actresses don’t take less.

    I understand the principle you are espousing. But America is run by rules. The rules state that an employee or contractor can get whatever the market is willing to bear. In the NBA they have rules on how much they will pay out. MLB and the NFL do not.

    Look at how the Dolphins handled things. They took the OT and passed on the QB. I am sure money might have entered into the equation. But then again Jake Long is the highest paid OT in the league.

    It is what it is. Remember the phrase “Don’t hate the player, hate the game” Well Russell, along with all other athletes and people for that matter, are just players. The Owners, Executives, Managers, Generals, Supervisors etc…are the guys/gals running the game.

  • SnB Defense

    4evaRaider Says:
    May 10th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
    You have a valid point but… Jmac still could have been in camp with some sort of insurance policy in place,its been done B4.Jmac’s hold-out is still having negitive ramifactions,imo
    =======================================================
    Can you name one top pick that has ever come to camp without a contract? You are asking Russell to be a pioneer for something that doesn’t benefit players.

    Brady Quinn also held out if I recall. Although not for the entire camp, but he too, retarded his growth by missing about a quarter to half of training camp. He was the 17th or 18th pick overall.

    That DE for Jacksonville (Harvey) he held out last year until the last week of camp or the regular season. He was a 18th pick or something like that too.

    Owners don’t have to pay those contracts. Al should have told Russell if he isn’t signed by draft day that they will go ahead with Calvin Johnson.

    Once Al drafted JaMarcus Russell….it was ALL ON AL and his staff to get him signed and in camp. They blew it big time!

  • Rellik30

    Was that Twitter from Jerry, or David White?

  • RuffRaider

    As far as JR and the Raiders being behind because of the hold-out, I am not so sure. Many coaches firmly believe that you can ruin a rookie QB by letting him play right away, on a bad team especially. Sitting on the sidelines for a year might have actually helped him, but we’ll never know for sure I guess. I say let them play, but I do know that allot of coaches think the other way.

  • canadianraider

    i realize qb’s take time..but if jr was as promising as mcnabb was his first two years…we wouldnt be having a discussion about it..macnabb was way better at this stage ….you knew macnabb was going to be good. i cant say that about russell right now..to be honest i think were all clinging on some of jr’s nice plays…but not impressed by others, the only difference is we choose not to to admit it

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  • Ghost Rider

    I am HAPPY there are no controversies so far!! Raiders All the way!!!

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