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It’s Marshall’s turn

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, May 13th, 2009 at 11:00 am in Oakland Raiders.

As much as Tom Cable has wisely distanced himself from Lane Kiffin, in one area the two were of a like mind.

When it came to defense, specifically defending against the run, it was mostly the fault of Rob Ryan.

The difference is Kiffin essentially pointed the finger at Ryan in the most damaging way possible. He also brought Al Davis into the mix, playing to the longheld belief that the Raiders play defense Al’s way and that the owner was even involved in game plans on a week-to-week basis.

Kiffin tried to fire Ryan after his first season and was told no, with Davis bringing the defensive coordinator for his final season. You wonder if Ryan came back because Davis really wanted him as the defensive coordinator, or if Davis simply wanted to spite Kiffin.

The toxic days are over, and so is Ryan is gone, moving on to Cleveland after his contract expired.

But make no mistake, as the Raiders made little effort in the offseason to change the personnel in their 31st-ranked rushing defense, other than the drafting of a raw in-the-box safety in Mike Mitchell, they also implicated Ryan and his staff for the deficiency.

(You could also include defensive tackle Ryan Boschetti, but he played so seldom in Washington it’s hard to know if he can be a factor or if he’ll even make the team).

If Ryan wasn’t so busy trying to put together a defense in Cleveland, he could probably feel the force of the wheels from the Raiders team bus.

Ryan used to often say the Raiders system was designed to put their superior players in position to make plays _ the inference being Oakland had ll the talent it needed and that it was his job to make it work.

At the minicamp, the words coming out of Cable’s mouth could have been Ryan’s, while at the same time leaving no doubt the former defensive coordinator ran a loose ship where details and assignments were missed.

“What it gets down to is I think we have some talented players on defense, and so getting them in the right place and them understanding what you’re asking them to do, and teaching how to play the game with their hands, and how to tackle, and how to blitz and how to cover the right way,” Cable said. “If you ask me what’s going to be different, that’s how we’re going to be different. We’re going to coach it and teach it better.”

Doubtful you’ll hear any response from Ryan, who will no doubt throw his considerable weight into building up some of the Cleveland Browns as unblockable and unstoppable.

You’re not hearing anything from Marshall, either, as Cable thinks its best at this time if he does all the talking.

Linebacker Thomas Howard said it’s been strictly fundamentals since Marshall arrived and isn’t sure what the defense will look like.

“We’re still feeling out John, seeing if he’s going to lean toward pressure or what,” Howard said.

Regarding blitzes, “Howard said, “We’re putting in a lot more pressures but you still want to see how it’s going to translate in a game. Even when Rob was here, we did it out here but you still want to see how it goes in games.”

Howard believes Marshall’s vast experience will be of some help.

“He’s been around the game for so long, he’s seen it when teams went (1-15) and he’s seen it when teams were (15-1),” Howard said. “He’s been to the big dance. he’s been at the top three in defense. He’s been in the bottom three in defense. He’s seen it all.”

If Marshall’s strict adherence to fundamentals _ Howard said the Raiders are doing things he did in high school _ pays off in one of those top three finishes, then the Ryan was the problem. If it is one of his bottom three finishes, Ryan is a scapegoat, and Marshall will be next up for scrutiny.

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  • raidersince87

    Dakota Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 11:53 am
    Raider-3 is a brainchild of Rob Ryan. It’s when the first two levels of defense allow the RB into the secondary and then our great safeties are responsible for making the tackle as the third line of defense.

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    lol! thats what i meant to say

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/skew-t/166654980/ BART Bridge Blues

    I see a pass to Meyers, Stewart, O’Neill or Strong in the flats. Miller, McFadden, DHB and Schilens would use up all their other able-bodied defenders, leaving our sure-handed back-up tight end being covered by the opposing team’s slower coverage LB.

  • Mistabrown

    Dakota!
    #7

    lmao

  • inonewordraider

    interesting Javon Walker interview transcript on Raiderbeat.com… Maybe he’s the mentor for our young receiving core

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    # BART Bridge Blues Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 11:51 am

    Raiderssince87,

    Wouldn’t that be a Cover-1 scheme? I am starting to think that Howard was referring to the Wolverine package, where there are 3 safeties that can play cover-3 on passing downs. Because are CB’s are almost never in zone coverage.
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    Cover three is the corners are on man on the outside each responsible for their one third, one safety is tight in the box or man options to the TE, one safety takes the middle third. It’s not that antiquated. urban Meyer had the Florida defense playing that same scheme in the National Championship game.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/skew-t/166654980/ BART Bridge Blues

    Sadly, it sounds like the Raiders intend on continuing to run the “Raider-3″ next season, whatever that is.

  • http://atm Raider O

    Are we on our 10 yard line?!

  • raidersince87

    exactly i know what it is, but the point i was trying to make is the safety is still exposed in the middle, the corners have the sidline to help them, on deep in patterns they just release the wr to the deep safety, no help is coming

  • raidersince87

    BART Bridge Blues Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 11:58 am
    Sadly, it sounds like the Raiders intend on continuing to run the “Raider-3″ next season, whatever that is.

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    and then we are going to here all kind of people crying about huff again, when its clearly scheme

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    # raidersince87 Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    exactly i know what it is, but the point i was trying to make is the safety is still exposed in the middle, the corners have the sidline to help them, on deep in patterns they just release the wr to the deep safety, no help is coming
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    Say that again.

  • RaiderRockstar

    I formation, 2 TE set with Miller & Myers both lined up on the right. Neal & McFadden in the backfield. Schilens lined up on the left. motions and crosses over to the right. short screen pass to DMC on the right. Carlisle & Barnes get out in front. the two TE’s to his side. he’s running down the sideline. Neal smashes the MLB. Schilens got his man. D Dogg dives into the end zone untouched!

    TOUCHDOWN RAIDERS!

  • Mistabrown

    Jerry I asked you a couple days ago if there is competition between C Johnson & Routt or is Johnson the clear starter opposite Nnamdi.

    Jerry when I axe a question I expect answers, thanks in advance.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Rob Ryan Browns Interview:

    Mangina: The Raiders were almost dead last against the run in 2009. Why do you think that is?

    Rob Ryan: I personally believe that US Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some people out there in our nation don’t have maps, and I believe that our education, like such as South Africa and the Ir@q, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should — our education over here in the US should help the US — or should help South Africa and should help the Ir@q and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future for our children.

    Mangina: I love that answer, you are hired.

    Rob Ryan: Great, does that mean I can have another piece of this pizza?

    Mangina: Knock yourself out.

  • raidersince87

    jerry answered my question yesterday concerning SAM , looks like they want slade norris to try and win the job there, but hes working with the 2nd unit as of now

  • raidersince87

    dakota, funny and possibly true

  • raiderkoolaid

    I hope The Marshall plan works. One thing, we know the Ryan plan did not work. The problem with the defense the last few years has to be Ryan’s fault, although it is Al Davis’s as well because Al Davis hired him and then stuck with him, but it was Ryan’s fault because either he mis-evaluated the talent or else he wasn’t a good enough coach to get good production out of the talent. Either was he was lacking. With even modest improvement in the run defense this team could be much better.

  • hoodedswan

    Sounds like Marshall wants to find out what he’s got to work with before he installs his scheme. If that’s what’s he’s doing, I totally agree.

    This “must score a TD on the last play of the game” situation is especially hard on the Raiders on account of all the inexperienced WRs. DHB lines up wide left, runs a comeback. Miller lines up slot left, runs a slant to the back left corner. JLH lines up wide right, runs a square-in. D-Mac lines up slot right, runs a square-out. The timing on all these routes is to get somebody picked off. L. O’Neal hits the blitzer if there is 1, chips a lineman if there isn’t, and runs straight down the middle.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    ooops, I guess that should have been 2008…my bad…

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    # raidersince87 Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    exactly i know what it is, but the point i was trying to make is the safety is still exposed in the middle, the corners have the sidline to help them, on deep in patterns they just release the wr to the deep safety, no help is coming
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    I still don’t get what you are saying here. The safety IS the help.

  • raidersince87

    raiderkoolaid Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
    I hope The Marshall plan works. One thing, we know the Ryan plan did not work. The problem with the defense the last few years has to be Ryan’s fault, although it is Al Davis’s as well because Al Davis hired him and then stuck with him, but it was Ryan’s fault because either he mis-evaluated the talent or else he wasn’t a good enough coach to get good production out of the talent. Either was he was lacking. With even modest improvement in the run defense this team could be much better.

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    yeah its definitely rr fault, his schemes were ridiculous, hes really a 3-4 coach that was trying to run a college 4-3, thats why the browns hired him, for their 3-4

  • BK

    Oakglenn Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 11:35 am
    # raiderrej Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 11:29 am

    score is-27 raiders-21, game winding down 4th and 10 on the 10 yardline, 6 seconds on the clock…. whats the play???
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    Play action draw fake to Dmac who wheels right, Shilens runs a deep post on the endline, but your primary is Zach running an 11 yard curl on the left side. Six.

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    Who would bite on the play action on 4th and 10? And isn’t 4th and 10 from the 10 = 4th and goal?

  • raidersince87

    Oakglenn Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
    # raidersince87 Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    exactly i know what it is, but the point i was trying to make is the safety is still exposed in the middle, the corners have the sidline to help them, on deep in patterns they just release the wr to the deep safety, no help is coming
    ——————————————————

    I still don’t get what you are saying here. The safety IS the help.

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    the safety is not the help in a cover 3, his responsibility is the deep middle

  • raidersince87

    Who would bite on the play action on 4th and 10? And isn’t 4th and 10 from the 10 = 4th and goal?

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    exactly what i said about 20 posts ago

  • raidersince87

    cover 3 an 2 schemes only work when you have zone coverage players, all are players are drafted to play man, its the scheme that never worked that rr always ran, not our players

  • raiderrej

    BK Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
    Oakglenn Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 11:35 am
    # raiderrej Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 11:29 am

    score is-27 raiders-21, game winding down 4th and 10 on the 10 yardline, 6 seconds on the clock…. whats the play???
    ———————————————————
    Play action draw fake to Dmac who wheels right, Shilens runs a deep post on the endline, but your primary is Zach running an 11 yard curl on the left side. Six.

    __________________________

    Who would bite on the play action on 4th and 10? And isn’t 4th and 10 from the 10 = 4th and goal?
    ——
    true but 4th and 10 gives a true measurement.

  • raidersince87

    and the fact of the matter is, rr expected huff to play the middle and help the corners at the same time while they were manned up AND help out against the run all at the same time

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    # raidersince87 Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    Who would bite on the play action on 4th and 10? And isn’t 4th and 10 from the 10 = 4th and goal?

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    exactly what i said about 20 posts ago
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    Draw fake. Not a straight play fake. All you need is that one half a second. And if you remember a lot of NFL teams last year were running plays and converting 3rd and 8′s, 3rd and 7′s by running the ball. In fact Kiffin did it repeatedly.

  • http://atm Raider O

    I like my play but not on 4th and 10. I just added a play since everyone else was doing it. lol

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    raiderrej Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 11:29 am
    score is-27 raiders-21, game winding down 4th and 10 on the 10 yardline, 6 seconds on the clock…. whats the play???

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    IN a 2 TE set, Bush in the backfield, Heyward-by-the-Bey split right, Schilens left…Russell surveys the defense and barks out a play change, moving back into the shotgun. Ball is snapped and the WRs sprint to the corners…Russell pump fakes and runs a QB draw into the end zone, standing up. Leading the way were the mobile Gallery and Satele. Lying on the ground are two smallish LBers who tried to stop that train.

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    # raidersince87 Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    the safety is not the help in a cover 3, his responsibility is the deep middle
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    You are Correct about the responsibility for the deep middle. So what receiver is he taking? Give me a scenario where you have someone running uncovered down the middle of the field.

  • raidersince87

    Oakglenn Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
    # raidersince87 Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    Who would bite on the play action on 4th and 10? And isn’t 4th and 10 from the 10 = 4th and goal?

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    exactly what i said about 20 posts ago
    —————————————————–

    Draw fake. Not a straight play fake. All you need is that one half a second. And if you remember a lot of NFL teams last year were running plays and converting 3rd and 8’s, 3rd and 7’s by running the ball. In fact Kiffin did it repeatedly.

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    were not that kind of team yet

  • RaiderRockstar

    Cover 3 refers to 3 deep defenders each guarding one-third of the deep zone. Cover 3 schemes are usually used to defend against passes, mainly those towards the deep middle of the field. Unlike Cover 2 schemes that create a natural hole between safeties, Cover 3′s extra deep defender is able to patrol the middle area effectively.

    The most basic Cover 3 scheme involves 2 CBs and 2 safeties. On the snap, the CBs work for depth, backpedaling into their assigned zone. One safety moves toward the center of the field. The other safety is free to rotate into the flat area (about 2-4 yards beyond the line of scrimmage), provide pass coverage help, or blitz.

    One of the biggest benefits of the cover 3 coverage scheme is the ability to walk the SS up into the box with minimal to no changes in the coverage due to the pre-snap center field position of the FS. This enables the defense to play both man and zone coverage out of an 8 man front while cover 2 schemes allow only for man coverage with 8 man fronts. The New England Patriots are notorious for using SS Rodney Harrison as more of a third OLB than a coverage safety and regularly employ cover 3 coverages.

    Cover 3 schemes are susceptible to short, timed passes to the outside due to the hard drop of both CBs. This puts pressure on the OLBs to get into their drop quickly. Another disadvantage of cover 3 schemes is they are relatively easy to diagnose by opposing QBs. Because of this teams will often employ slight wrinkles in their coverage to confuse offenses. An example of this includes employing man coverage on one side and zone on another or swapping coverage zones between defenders.

  • raiderkoolaid

    # raidersince87 Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    raiderkoolaid Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
    I hope The Marshall plan works. One thing, we know the Ryan plan did not work. The problem with the defense the last few years has to be Ryan’s fault, although it is Al Davis’s as well because Al Davis hired him and then stuck with him, but it was Ryan’s fault because either he mis-evaluated the talent or else he wasn’t a good enough coach to get good production out of the talent. Either was he was lacking. With even modest improvement in the run defense this team could be much better.

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    yeah its definitely rr fault, his schemes were ridiculous, hes really a 3-4 coach that was trying to run a college 4-3, thats why the browns hired him, for their 3-4
    ****************************************************

    Maybe Ryan will succeed in Cleavland and maybe he was a square peg in a round hole in Oakland. I felt for years that The Raiders should have either stuck with the 3-4 and got him the personel to run it with or else got rid of him years ago, and so that is Al Davis’s fault, but as long as Ryan was here he wasn’t getting the job done.

  • raidersince87

    Oakglenn Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
    # raidersince87 Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    the safety is not the help in a cover 3, his responsibility is the deep middle
    —————————————

    You are Correct about the responsibility for the deep middle. So what receiver is he taking? Give me a scenario where you have someone running uncovered down the middle of the field.

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    since your grilling me on this, most teams run 3 or 4 wr’s, so the slot on either side and the te, plus like i said deep in patterns will be released to him

  • RaiderRockstar

    One safety moves toward the center of the field. (Huff or Eugene)

    The other safety is free to rotate into the flat area about 2-4 yards beyond the line of scrimmage, provide pass coverage help, or blitz. (Mitchell or Branch)

    This enables the defense to play both man and zone coverage out of an 8 man front …

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
    raiderrej Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 11:29 am
    score is-27 raiders-21, game winding down 4th and 10 on the 10 yardline, 6 seconds on the clock…. whats the play???

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    IN a 2 TE set, Bush in the backfield, Heyward-by-the-Bey split right, Schilens left…Russell surveys the defense and barks out a play change, moving back into the shotgun. Ball is snapped and the WRs sprint to the corners…Russell pump fakes and runs a QB draw into the end zone, standing up. Leading the way were the mobile Gallery and Satele. Lying on the ground are two smallish LBers who tried to stop that train.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    But wait! Is that a late flag on the play? A celebration penalty is tacked on to the Raiders after Cornell Green takes off his helmet while performing his infamous “mop handle” dance. 15 yards added to the extra point try…which Jano HOOKS INTO THE LEFT GOALPOST!! Game tied, heading into sudden death…

  • http://atm Raider O

    RR,

    That’s B Ryans 4-6!!

  • raidersince87

    isnt barnes supposed to be taking greens spot, i hope?

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    # raidersince87 Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    Oakglenn Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
    # raidersince87 Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    the safety is not the help in a cover 3, his responsibility is the deep middle
    —————————————

    You are Correct about the responsibility for the deep middle. So what receiver is he taking? Give me a scenario where you have someone running uncovered down the middle of the field.

    ———————————————-
    since your grilling me on this, most teams run 3 or 4 wr’s, so the slot on either side and the te, plus like i said deep in patterns will be released to him
    —————————————————-

    Exactly. So anyone releasing their assignment to him, he would be the help. Also, If you are facing a 4 WR set you would most likely be in one of your dime packages not a 3 deep.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    There is no “deep middle” on defense when the offense is at your 10 yard line.

  • raidersince87

    Oakglenn Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
    # raidersince87 Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    Oakglenn Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
    # raidersince87 Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    the safety is not the help in a cover 3, his responsibility is the deep middle
    —————————————

    You are Correct about the responsibility for the deep middle. So what receiver is he taking? Give me a scenario where you have someone running uncovered down the middle of the field.

    ———————————————-
    since your grilling me on this, most teams run 3 or 4 wr’s, so the slot on either side and the te, plus like i said deep in patterns will be released to him
    —————————————————-

    Exactly. So anyone releasing their assignment to him, he would be the help. Also, If you are facing a 4 WR set you would most likely be in one of your dime packages not a 3 deep.

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    no kidding on the 3 or 4 sets u said give u a scenario i did, so what are you trying to argue with me about then, he’s not the help if its HIS responsibility, he’s help when its man and he’s over the the top or breaking under, stop trying to make it seem like i dont know what im talking about, you starting to throw little curveballs to make me look stupid , i dont appreciate it

  • raidersince87

    im out nation got 1 more final at 1pm

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    “Ryan used to often say the Raiders system was designed to put their superior players in position to make plays _ the inference being Oakland had ll the talent it needed and that it was his job to make it work.”
    ——————–
    Translation: Obviously the players are “superior” because they were hand picked by the Furher. It has to be the coaching deficiencies. Heil.

  • http://Raiders.com RaiderTW

    # raiderrej Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 11:29 am

    score is-27 raiders-21, game winding down 4th and 10 on the 10 yardline, 6 seconds on the clock…. whats the play???
    ———————————————————
    Play action draw fake to Dmac who wheels right, Shilens runs a deep post on the endline, but your primary is Zach running an 11 yard curl on the left side. Six.

    ——————
    TD!! Flag down, refs call Zach for pushing off. The announcers are silent as they watch the replay showing the rest of the world that THERE WAS NO PUSHING OFF!!!

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    # raidersince87 Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    no kidding on the 3 or 4 sets u said give u a scenario i did, so what are you trying to argue with me about then, he’s not the help if its HIS responsibility, he’s help when its man and he’s over the the top or breaking under, stop trying to make it seem like i dont know what im talking about, you starting to throw little curveballs to make me look stupid , i dont appreciate it
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    Hey, I’m not trying to do anything. I have found there is no use in telling anyone anything, I always want for them to figure it out for themselves. I think basically every thing you said was completely right. The only thing I wanted you to see is:
    1) if a WR flanked outside takes a deep post to the inside of the field, even tho initially the corner has him, he has deep help from that safety
    2) In a 3 WR set, the slot receiver, covered by in our case Routt would have deep help if that slot receiver ran a skinny post
    3) A TE would normally be covered by either a safety in the box (preferably) or a LB, and if that TE ran a deep seam route, would have help deep again from that safety.

    Unless someone blows their coverage, which does happen, that deep safety is their to help more than just cover the middle third. I think that is what my point is. I’m not arguing with you. I’m just saying.

  • The Big Banana

    Kiffin tried to fire Ryan after his first season and was told no, with Davis bringing the defensive coordinator for his final season. You wonder if Ryan came back because Davis really wanted him as the defensive coordinator, or if Davis simply wanted to spite Kiffin.
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    I still don’t understand why Davis didn’t allow Ryan to be fired.

    If he did it to spite Kiffin, man, that’s a big red flag from an NFL owner. You try to field the best team, no matter what!

    If he liked Ryan, what was he thinking?

    Another opinion is that of keeping him simply because he’s under contract. If so, that’s crazy too. Pay Walker millions to stand by and get surgeries while worrying about the chump change your D-coord is making?

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/skew-t/166654980/ BART Bridge Blues

    So Raider-3 coverage is basically the one Safety deep, one safety in the box scheme that has ruined the careers of Gibson, Stuey, and Huff already?

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    The morons on NFL Live just played the Tim Brown audio and then simply said it was “surprising” given Al’s history.

    Just said it was surprising, lmao, and left it at that. They use Brown’s comments against Al and then pretty much dropped it at that because it did what they wanted; made Al look bad.

    Real journalists would have Brown on the show to explain his comments, but they don’t want to even give Brown the chance to backtrack, they just want to play his original comment and let it give Al a black eye.

    fukers

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    # BART Bridge Blues Says:
    May 13th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    So Raider-3 coverage is basically the one Safety deep, one safety in the box scheme that has ruined the careers of Gibson, Stuey, and Huff already?
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    Well, yes and no. Derrick Gibson was actually a very good run support safety. His coverage skills were a bit lacking but not by much. Huff and Stu have the exact same issue: they are always one second too late in their reactions. And Stu’s tackling was atrocious. Rashad Baker came in last year playing the same defense and had what, 2 or 3 pix, in limited playing time. If the safeties read and play fast, they will do well. If they react slowly, we all will suffer a terrible fate.

  • raiderrej

    I AM SO TIRED of this RAIDER BASHING… everything in the media seems to be negative when comes to the raiders..