Brown clarifies radio remarks
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, May 14th, 2009 at 10:04 am in Oakland Raiders.
Tim Brown has been in touch with the Raiders and said he plans to issue a statement through his marketing people regarding remarks he made on an Atlanta radio station about how owner Al Davis felt about African-American athletes from Notre Dame.
“ESPN even played audio of the interview and next thing I know they’re saying I said A.D. is a racist,” Brown said in a return phone call Thursday morning.“All I did was say what people said to me after my first practice, some things that came as a shock. I talked about it with my advisors at the time and we determined it was hogwash.”
The following passage created the stir:
“Meeting Al was pretty unique. I found out five or ten minutes after my first practice there that he hated African-American athletes from Notre Dame,” Brown said in an interview with WCCN in Atlanta. “And they literally told me that. They literally told me that because we’re known for using our education more than our athletic ability that he thought that I would be one of these guys that would basically take the money and run. I don’t know if that was a ploy to get me amped up, but it certainly worked.”
Brown stressed that he used the word “they,” and that he never said the comments had come directly from Davis, nor does he believe they came directly from Davis.
During the course of the interview, Brown said he was discussing “crazy things that happened with the Raiders” and that being told after his first practice that Davis didn’t like African-American athletes from Notre Dame stood out in his mind.
Brown acknowledged differences with Davis over the years on various things, but said race was not one of them, noting his hiring practices and affinity for signing players form predominantly black schools in the 1960s.
Within the last two days, Brown said he has talked to “people in the Raiders office” and plans to do so again today.
It doesn’t sound as if Brown believes this will hurt his relationship with Davis.
When discussing first-round draft pick Darrius Heyward-Bey, Brown expressed hope that he’d be able to talk and work with the rookie at some point in the future.
Brown admitted he was initially surprised by the selection.
“From all I heard, I thought they’d be looking at (Michael) Crabtree or Jeremy Maclin,” Brown said. “But in researching it and seeing Heyward-Bey’s speed, he does look like someone Al would take a chance on, espeically when taking into account Crabtree’s health.”
Brown, not surprisingly, said he was partial to Maclin.
“The last time they drafted someone that high who could be a receiver and return kicks, it turned out OK,” he said.
UPDATE
The following is a statement released by Brown to sportsradiointerviews.com not long after our phone conversation:
I would like to give some face value to my recent comments on a radio interview: If you read the statement carefully, you will see it says “they said”, not Al Davis said. Early in my career , Al Davis and I may have had some contentious years , but none centered around him being racist.
I am fully aware of the history and Mr. Davis making moves over the years. I lived some of them. I have also seen Mr. Davis do things for his players, African-American players that only those in the Raider family would know.
Please, read or listen to the statement for what it is and not what everyone wants it to be.
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May 14th, 2009 at 10:05 am
RaiderDogg Predictions for now:
- DMac will lead the team in receptions at the season’s half way point.
- Mike Mitchell will have his first concussion by week 5.
- The Raiders will be getting hot just in time for the bye week.
- Chris Johnson will have 2 picks in the season opener causing comparisons to Lester Hayes on national TV.
More later…
May 14th, 2009 at 10:06 am
MR
get it yet?
May 14th, 2009 at 10:16 am
M Lonetree Says:
May 14th, 2009 at 10:10 am
RaiderDogg,
Don’t know Gov’t Mule, but I’ll look for some music. Did not know about Clapton and Winwood being around. A Blind Faith redux? Can’t Find My Way Home is, if it came down to choosing, my all-time favorite single song.
…I’m near the end and I just ain’t got the time,
and I ain’t done nothing wrong, still I can’t find my way home.
an anthem of the soul’s journey for me.”
M
“an anthem of the soul’s journey for me”
Very well said, I like that. I hope you don’t mind if I use that one in the future.
Clapton/Winwood is a Blind Faith redux of sorts. They will both do their own thing and then come together in the end.
Gov’t Mule is like a heavier, more rocking Allman Brothers. It is Warren Haynes band, who is one of the guitarists from the Brothers…
May 14th, 2009 at 10:18 am
If memory serves correct, during the period that Tim Brown was a rookie, the Raiders had a promising defensive back; Stacey Toran from Notre Dame. During training camp 1988, Toran lost his life while driving drunk.
Not making excuses for Mr. Davis, but if Tim’s assertions are true, Toran may have been the reason.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:19 am
mule.net
also Warren Haynes is doing his best Jerry Garcia impression playing with the Dead.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:25 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
May 14th, 2009 at 6:40 am
FUNNY,ALL THESE AMATURE GENERAL-MANAGER’S WHO ARE 100% SURE WHICH DRAFT PICK’S WILL MAKE IT AND WHO WILL NOT. WHO WILL BE BETTER THAN WHO IN THE NFL..LOL
^^^^^
Well you know whats funny and sad at the same time?
Is that most of us fans of this team and “amatuers” can probably run a draft better than that old stubbron man Al Davis.
This past draft should make or break the old man IMO. If this past draft class turns out to be solid….then maybe the old man will actually not hire a real personnel man to do a better job than he has until he dies. However if this class doesn’t produce, in two or three years then the old man better get just sit back and be an non meddling owner and hire a freakin REAL personnel man.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:25 am
I’m out for a while
Have a good day Nation
May 14th, 2009 at 10:26 am
r8rpaver Says:
May 14th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Joe Satriani was a new band called Chicken Foot with Sammy Hagar and Michael Anthony playing the warfield soon should be a good show..heard a couple tracks yesterday Joe still can bend the strings
^^^^^
Nice!
May 14th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Al is not a Racist!!!! Nooo!!!!
May 14th, 2009 at 10:27 am
9th
May 14th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Had a feeling the whole ESPN thing would result in some action of some kind. Well, at least those morons from NFL Live got Brown talking more about it.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:32 am
When discussing first-round draft pick Darrius Heyward-Bey, Brown expressed hope that he’d be able to talk and work with the rookie at some point in the future.
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after calling AD a racist? yeah right. kiss that chance goodbye.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Within the last two days, Brown said he has talked to “people in the Raiders office” and plans to do so again today.
It doesn’t sound as if Brown believes this will hurt his relationship with Davis.
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what did I tell ya?
May 14th, 2009 at 10:34 am
It’s sad that it appears Tim is begging for a job with the Raiders.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Al loved Timmy, but this ….
May 14th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Rod Smith just made the college HOF. said donks owners Pat Bowlen is racist …
May 14th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Bold predictions eh?
How about McFadden will break 1,000 yards on the ground
Schilens will lead the team with 40+ receptions
Trevor Scott will rack-up double digit sack numbers
The Raiders will be ranked somewhere in the 20’s for rushing defense
JRuss will be more Trent Dilfer than Brett Favre, with a few nice two minute drills, but also a few drive-killing bad passes.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:37 am
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May 14th, 2009 at 10:38 am
It’s sad that it appears Tim is begging for a job with the Raiders.
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even at age 42 Tim Brown is probably still a more productive WR than Javon Walker!
I doubt Chaz Schilens wants to give up #81 though …
May 14th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Timmy said a few things after leaving the Raiders that my hurt his chances of doing anything with the Raiders while Al is there. IMO
May 14th, 2009 at 10:44 am
I watched Tim Brown as an analyst for Fox Sports on a panel with Jay Glazer, Jason Sehorn and Eddie George a few years back. That was a pretty sad bunch. The whole lot of them should have been flushed.
Timmy will probably be a WR coach for the Texans sometime in the near future.
He now lives in DeSoto, Texas.
I would say Cowboys, but Al Davis is best friends with Jerry Jones and would advise him not to bring Tim on board.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:44 am
post#6-don’t flatter yourself.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Mervyn Fernandez’s son Joe Fernandez was a wide receiver at Fresno State. He’s 5′10″ 180 lbs.
He tried out for the Seahawks in 2007, but didn’t make the final cut.
Here’s his bio from Fresno State:
Will be one of the premier receivers and return specialists in the WAC this season … a speedy wide receiver who has emerged as the team’s go-to guy, leading the team in receptions each of the last two seasons… owns the best hands on the team … a smart player who runs good routes … enter his senior season with more than 100 career receptions, nearly 1,300 receiving yards and 12 touchdowns … needs 10 receptions and 182 yards to break into the Fresno State career top 10 record lists for receptions and receiving yards … played in 37 games in his career … though not always flashy, he always seems to get the job done in a solid fashion … made great strides at the end of his sophomore season and been one of the team most consistent offensive weapons ever since … already graduated and is working toward a master’s degree … is annually a strong candidate for academic awards … Academic All-WAC.
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Why not try him out along with Nick Miller & Shawn Bayes?
May 14th, 2009 at 10:56 am
come on mods. you’re not going to allow me to post anything about Joe Fernandez ?
May 14th, 2009 at 10:57 am
By the way, AD is J3wish. I don’t think someone like Al ( close to WW2), can be a Racist!! IMHO
May 14th, 2009 at 10:59 am
M,
This should be interesting!!
May 14th, 2009 at 11:02 am
LOL at all the Davis haters
May 14th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Raider O:
good point, Al Davis was 16 years old by the time World War 2 ended. that was probably very real & scary for him as a young teen
May 14th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Double R,
the mod is on one today……….
May 14th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Tim Brown and mics jus don’t mix. He’s as good hearted as Nap Kaufman, its just that thigs don’t come out of his mouth the right way. Still, I think Al will forget the incident mainly because nobody else during the last 20 years had a HOF career with da raiduhz.
May 14th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Hey guys, Got a quick question for ya on how the media is overreacting (in my eyes) to anything that DHB does so early on.
Every single DHB article I see seems to make a huge deal of “He dropped three passes on three straight plays on Saturday after having a decent session Friday.”
Did this guy only have 5 pass thrown to him on Saturday? Why was it that big of a deal? It was his first mini-camp.
What do you guys think, was it that big of a deal this early on?
May 14th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Tim Brown is just mad that Al didn’t hand him a front office job.
May 14th, 2009 at 11:09 am
What do you guys think, was it that big of a deal this early on?
nahhhh….just the pundits trying to justify there smack talk of our draft…kinda the I told ya so….
they will eat crow!!!!!! 1 mini camp = changing the tire on you Yugo…then going to the nasscar pits…when Practice starts…heck even OTA’s that swhen we will see till then its all speculation….
May 14th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Every single DHB article I see seems to make a huge deal of “He dropped three passes on three straight plays on Saturday after having a decent session Friday.”
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Braylon Edwards dropped 14 passes from September to December last year and now the Browns are trying to run him out of town. Nobody offered a 1st Round pick for this guy who was a former 3rd overall pick and pro bowler. otherwise he’d be gone.
3 STRAIGHT passes for a guy who was the 1st WR drafted is a big deal to the media because the knocks on him prior to the draft were “questionable hands”. The Raiders said that wasn’t a problem in his private workout. You don’t draft a WR 7th overall with questionable hands. thats what the 3rd & 4th round is for. the media toward the Raiders is negative for the most part. If DHB has a 60 catch, 1000 yard, 10 TD season as a rookie with 10 or more drops they’ll be calling him a bust right out of the gate. guaranteed
May 14th, 2009 at 11:15 am
OAK,
LMAO
May 14th, 2009 at 11:20 am
60 catches!! 1000 yards!! 10 TDs!! 10 drops!!!
This Bust would be better than everyone we had last year.
If he gets 60, 1000, and TD!!! He can drop 20, I don’t care!!
May 14th, 2009 at 11:21 am
How many drops did RO have last year??!!
May 14th, 2009 at 11:21 am
RO is TO, sorry.
May 14th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Its “media knowledge” that receivers take a couple of years to develop. Why the heck are they expecting DHB to be Larry Fitz on his first practice as a pro?
May 14th, 2009 at 11:23 am
The problem with that though is that the pundits are too slow to realize that a lot goes into a dropped pass. For example, Russell has been throwing to receiver’s feet through out the whole camp. That there is a bigger issue to me than DHB dropping 3 passes. The things they don’t mention are:
- What was the quality of those 3 passes?
- Was the line not holding up, that Russell was rushed to throw the ball early.
- Does DHB not know the routes all that well yet?
A lot of those can be used as excuses, but still are valid excuses this early on.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
May 14th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Every single DHB article I see seems to make a huge deal of “He dropped three passes on three straight plays on Saturday after having a decent session Friday.”
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Braylon Edwards dropped 14 passes from September to December last year and now the Browns are trying to run him out of town. Nobody offered a 1st Round pick for this guy who was a former 3rd overall pick and pro bowler. otherwise he’d be gone.
3 STRAIGHT passes for a guy who was the 1st WR drafted is a big deal to the media because the knocks on him prior to the draft were “questionable hands”. The Raiders said that wasn’t a problem in his private workout. You don’t draft a WR 7th overall with questionable hands. thats what the 3rd & 4th round is for. the media toward the Raiders is negative for the most part. If DHB has a 60 catch, 1000 yard, 10 TD season as a rookie with 10 or more drops they’ll be calling him a bust right out of the gate. guaranteed
May 14th, 2009 at 11:25 am
How many drops did Moss have last year??
I know be dropped a TD passin the SB, he was wide open on a go route.
May 14th, 2009 at 11:25 am
If DHB has a 60 catch, 1000 yard, 10 TD season as a rookie
_______________________
Can any one say Rookie of the year!!!!!!
May 14th, 2009 at 11:27 am
LRDDR-ever heard of Steve Wiznewski.he might not get selected,but his was a HOF career.
May 14th, 2009 at 11:29 am
By racist, does it mean to show bias towards someone who wins races, then of course this makes sense!
or is he a racist against slow runners?
May 14th, 2009 at 11:31 am
i agree with you guys. I’m just saying that’s how harsh the media is towards the Raiders
they’ll be haters until we start winning games. If we win the division they’ll be off our backs.
winning cures everything.
and nobody is going to project a Miami/Atlanta type of turnaround from us either …
May 14th, 2009 at 11:34 am
if we win the division the media will say its because our division sucks.and they’d probably be correct,although they wouldn’t say that if another team wins it.
May 14th, 2009 at 11:34 am
I asked why Brown was not helping with our receivers a while back. Time to put up or shut up Timmy. MaddenRaider, Oakglenn is asleep most of the time when I post as are you and I post at those times for that reason, so I don’t have to argue with either one of you. If you want to keep calling me Oakglenn its up to you lol.
May 14th, 2009 at 11:35 am
My prediction, Raiders by 3 opening night.
May 14th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Ricky Brown said Al Davis is racist against white players from Boston College
May 14th, 2009 at 11:45 am
My prediction:
Raiders offense starts like it finished last year…strong running game, effective passing, and so-so defense…
This season will be about the 2007 & 2008 draft picks:
Chaz Schilens will surprise some people not in the know
JLH develops into a nice 2nd/3rd receiver and builds on his punt return game
Zach Miller has Pro-Bowl worthy year
DMAC/Bush become running and receiving threats
Russell’s QB Rating will be in the top half of league
Tyvon Branch and Trevor Scott become significant contributors on defense
Mario Henderson grows into a reliable starter
May 14th, 2009 at 11:49 am
My prediction, Raiders by 3 opening night.
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the o-line and d-line will need to have a dominant game in order for us to have ANY chance at all of winning the opener on MNF
the Chargers ripped JaMarcus Russell apart the last 3 times we played them.
May 14th, 2009 at 11:52 am
So he could catch passes AND back peddle – haha!!
May 14th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Rockstar,
The O and D lines will make or break the entire year…when the lines played okay the team was competitive last yr.
The running game has to be there from the start and that means starting DMAC and getting Bush carries early
The Raiders also have to throw more screen passes to RBs…
Really, I just hope Russell is not begging Cable to get DMAC or Bush in the game again
May 14th, 2009 at 11:58 am
If Tim Brown could have back peddaled this well when he was playing, he would have made one hell of a great cornerback. I don’t understand why he won’t just shut his pie hole and go away.
May 14th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
SnB Defense Says:
May 14th, 2009 at 11:45 am
My prediction:
Russell’s QB Rating will be in the top half of league
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I would hope that we could set the bar higher for a #1 pick making the $$$ Russell makes. It’s all about his maturity. If he can get in shape and become a disciplined student of the game, he has great potential. If he remains the kid that barely won the starting job at LSU, he will become another journeyman QB.
May 14th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Ron,
Russell is about one year behind in his development due to contract issues, coaching turnover, playbook turnover and roster turnover. Had the Raiders run a stable organization and taken the right steps to support Russell’s development then I think we could talk about a top 5-10 QB.
But that’s almost impossible for a team with all the issues that it has had over the last 3 years.
Show me a young successfull QB working in such a chaotic environment?
May 14th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
SnB Defense : Bush started one games against the Chargers last year and I’m pretty sure he mustered up something like 48 yards when Fargas & DMC were both hurt …
Chargers D is built to stuff the run. Adrian Peterson ran all over them a few years back because Minny’s o-line was dominant, not because AP was a stud in spite of his lackluster OL. We need our OL to step up to the plate no matter who is lined up at RB.
Russell must be able to complete passes on 3rd down. They will force us to pass the ball and then blitz like crazy. Guys like Carlisle & Green proved they can’t get the job done, yet they are both still projected starters heading into next season. If our plan is to run the ball down their throats and only have JR throw the ball 10-15 times we will lose by at least 3 TD’s. we’re not playing against KC or Denver here. I think DMC, Bush, Miller, Higgins, Schilens & DHB are dangerous if we can get them open in space. If we can’t keep Russell upright or keep him from turning the ball over this game will be yet another embarrassment on national TV. our confidence will be shattered and we’ll lose whatever momentum we thought we gained from winning the last 2 games of the 2008 season.
May 14th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Lets set the record str8.. I just spoke to Timmy hes my first cousin and as a Raider Fan im disgusted with some of the idioti comments that some of you fools are making. TIMOTHY DONNELL BROWN is the greatest Raider reciever ever period Freddie B will tell you himself that Tim is the greatest, why the heck do you think that as long as Fred was the recievers coach NO RECIEVER EVER WORE #81 unless his last name was brown. I have every game Tim has played on DVD he gave them to me a few months back I actually have put a few highlight reels together. http://www.youtube.com/blazeone
Now back to the Al Davis comments, Ive heard that story over and over again and Tim has never said he thought Al Davis was racist never not once, if you guys think the GREAT AL DAVIS IS SO GREAT why is the raiders franchise the laughing stock of the NFL Tim wanted to work for the Raiders because he loves the Raiders he doesnt need the job matter of fact hed rather stay in Desoto,tx with the rest of his family, I use to miss raider fans but with clowns like some of you I dont miss it at all because Tim was a true Raider at heart and to read what some of you wrote is disgusting. Ive been at raider games since the L.A raider days my family lived in L.A and we were the only family TIm had in L.a when he came to the Raiders and I watched this guy Bleed silver and Black for 18 yrs when AL DAVIS allowed NORV FREAKING TURNER TO CUT HIM BEFORE THE SEASON EVEN BEGAN.. Warren Sapp only told a small portion of what goes on in Raiderville but Tim has dealt with all that mess and still remained loyal To Al Davis and the organization. At this point I wish Al didnt match his offer to Denver he woud have 2 rings by now.
From MR.. Use to be a Raider Fan
And if you want proof that Tim is my family. Email me @
blazeone90509@yahoo.com.
May 14th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Youtube.com/blazeone90509 correction
May 14th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
wow dude i think you are about to be blown-up
May 14th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
JR will start this season with 2 new starters on the Oline, just like he did last year!! That has to slow his development. IMHO
May 14th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
R8,
Yep!!!
May 14th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
R8,
I’m sending him an Email now!! lol
I’m playing.
May 14th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Hahahah me to …just feel like giving a hacker my e-mail today…should be good fun
May 14th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
nothing to see here…..move along
May 14th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
LMAO
May 14th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Hay O that could be your email….blazeone…lol
May 14th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
R8,
lol
I think he means a Blunt. I’m more into Bongs and nice heavy glass. I’m Ol’ school, you know!!!
May 14th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
hello mcfly
May 14th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
I’m a Hippie Arab/ American!!!
LMFAO
May 14th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
That doesn’t even sound right!!
Still LMFAO
May 14th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Hippie Arab/American……..do you wear tie-dye???….that as far as i will go my friend
May 14th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
LMFAO
No but I did work at a liquor store, and I almost bought it. lol
May 14th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
R8,
I love jokes, go as far as you like!!
May 14th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
wont do it O….we are all people….liquor store LMAO
May 14th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
R8,
As you like.
We are all people, but we all need to laugh too!! As long as it’s not used as insults, it’s just jokes. You know!!
May 14th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Drama Queen seems to run in that family
May 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
RDT,
LMAO
May 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
I know O but dont like to sterotype…maybe profile but not sterotype…lol..back later c ya
May 14th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
DQS: Drama Queen Syndrome.
May 14th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Later R8.
May 14th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
the Bills & Lions are looking at Cards former 1st Rounder DT Wendell Bryant.
should we?
May 14th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
might explain his irrational obsession with being anti-everything Al Davis says or does though
May 14th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Profile, lMAO
Later Nation.
May 14th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
enough hatin on tim brown, man is a legend. plus did anyone see him on pros vs. joes? hes still got it haha
May 14th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Third-year wideout Johnnie Lee Higgins thinks Russell is becoming more in-tune with his offense. Higgins sees improvements in Russell’s pre-snap reads and in his overall timing with the offense.
“He is looking more into the defense,” Higgins said on Sunday. “He is talking to us more and we are just getting the timing together.”
“We just want to keep on pushing,” Higgins added. “We ended the year really great and we just have to keep making plays whether you are a receiver, running back, tight end, or quarterback.”
“It’s like a big brotherhood. We are helping everyone get better.”
-Anthony Carroll (RF365)
May 14th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 14th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
the Bills & Lions are looking at Cards former 1st Rounder DT Wendell Bryant.
should we?
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No. Been out of football and had drug problems and looking for redemption. At 6-5 300, probably more a TK type than the big NT we need.
Raiders are better off rolling with what’s on the roster now and hoping they play better.
May 14th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Rockstar,
Nice comments from Higgins. Despite what media reports say about Russell and the team….its hard for anyone to really know what’s going as far as preparation/work ethic without being there.
When all is said and done, the true evaluation doesn’t start until September.
May 14th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
One of the concise and brilliant things I’ve ever heard uttered by another human being was spoken by a gentleman as we chatted a bit next to a stream deep in the Grand Canyon. He said, “A rule to follow is, if you cannot improve upon silence, then don’t say anything.”
May 14th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
I wish they would have sent Tim Brown to Denver that would mean the Raiders would have kept Shanahan instead of Art Shell and Marty Ball would not have dominated us for a decade, sorry to inform you even if you are his cousin. Tim needs to put up or shut up, help the team or be quiet.
May 14th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
SnB Defense, we dont play a 3-4 or even a hybrid. The NT is really offset center but not a true NT.
I think they believe that Sands is the man for the 0 gap, but he hasnt made many believers within The Nation
May 14th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
SnB Defense :
your thoughts regarding post #57 ???
May 14th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
i’m glad Russell is working on his timing and learning how to read a defense.
Hackett will help Russell WAY more than DeFillipo ever could …
May 14th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
I think Tim wants to help the team, but Al won’t let him in.
May 14th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Things Raider Fans Might Want to Be Concerned With:
Jeff Garcia Beats Russell on Water Breaks
Garcia runs to get water. Russell walks.
Garcia gets angry whenever he misses a pass. Russell doesn’t.
To me this clearly shows both players’ character, as well as leadership abilities.
Garcia outwardly shows his competitive nature and style of headship. Garcia is a scrapper, and although perfection is unattainable, he works toward that goal.
This is not to say Russell is not a leader, but it’s something that isn’t expressed in his body language. This is partly good because he won’t show any external frustration over bad plays. At the same time, it means outside sources (fans, media, etc.) have no clue where his head is.
He has the same problematic image that Eli Manning had before his Super Bowl season. Without the results to back him up, he seems like a complacent, unproven, and somewhat confused QB with no leadership qualities.
This upcoming season may change that, but for now he’ll have to deal with the unproven label until he shows otherwise.
Even with the Russell concerns, there are still some positives that came out of last weekend.
-Steven Smith (bleacher report)
May 14th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Great read on all this dysfunction Tim likes to talk about but tries to distance himself from when in fact he helped create it by going to Davis for Shell as HC.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?blogid=11&entry_id=3939
May 14th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Whats even more insane is that Davis turned around and rehired Shell who then rehired Walsh and the year turned out exactly as this guy predicted lol.
May 14th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
RaiderRockstar post #57,
You are right. The Raiders have to throw more than 15x to win and he has to complete balls on 3rd down.
However, the running game has to be strong early. The Raiders don’t stand a chance if opposing defenses pin their ears back and come after Russell. I don’t think the O-Line is good enough. They need to keep defenses off-balance to be successfull. If defenses sell-out against the run…make them pay over the top….if they sell out against the pass..pound the rock on them.
I don’t think this is a team that is good enough, yet, to dictate the pace or the tone of the game against the good teams.
May 14th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Russell can brawl with anyone on the team and win most of them, I don’t think there is any lack of respect because of his work ethic or attitude. I’d take Russell over Garcia in a MMA bout anyday.
May 14th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
RaiderRockstar post 95,
Garcia has been in the pros for almost 20 years. I am sure that when it comes to preparation/practice…he’s probably going to have a head start.
The problem with Garcia is that on game day he’s not very good. He’s here to help Russell prepare and be a good 2nd option in case of injury. Garcia is a big upgrade to Walter.
But as a starter, Garcia doesn’t have it anymore…not that he really ever did. He’s an overachiever with limited skills. Remember, it was Russell and the Raiders play that got Garcia booted off the Bucs and there weren’t any other teams really fighting for his services.
May 14th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
They tried the 3-4 with Warren Sapp and it was a disaster.
May 14th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
I don’t think the O-Line is good enough.
I don’t think this is a team that is good enough, yet, to dictate the pace or the tone of the game against the good teams.
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S&B: I feel the same way. I try to make myself think differently, but I have to be realistic at the same time.
Satele is injured. Carlisle is getting dumped on his can by Tommy Kelly. What is Jamal Williams going to do against these guys? Whatever he wants…
Merriman, Tucker, Phillips, Cooper, Burnett, English, etc. ANY of these guys can rush the passer off the edge
I guess thats where the rookie Myers and Lo Neal come in, but that really limits the offense using 2 TE sets to hit Miller every other passing play
My hope is that Mark Wilson, Paul McQuistan, Marcus Johnson or the rookie Compas can beat out Cooper Carlisle for RG and Barnes or Pears can beat out Green for RT. We need Satele healthy. Wade is done imo.
We’ve seen Carlisle, Green & Wade in the zbs. not all that impressive. I’d like to see what some of these other cats can do …
May 14th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
It can only be a good thing with Garcia around because if Russell looks bad in the opener Davis won’t complain when Cable puts him in.
May 14th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
I think Pears is the real gem of the group from what I have read and will crack the starting lineup somewhere.
May 14th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Its fairly obvious that Davis and Cable have surrounded Russell with new players on every front to help him succeed this year and then they will work on the defense next year.
May 14th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Rockstar,
It’s really about keeping those good defenses off balance. I would guess the good defenses are going to try and shut down the Raider running game. That’s why the Raider offense has to be able to make the defense pay in the air enough to force the defense on its heels. Use screens to the RBs to keep pressure on the LBs. If the Raiders can’t throw the ball effectively, then they won’t win much.
May 14th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Chucking one 30 yards downfield in a 3 step drop to DHB or Higgins will loosen the defense too.
May 14th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Nice back-pedaling, Tim. You should have followed this guide: http://stylepointsblog.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/al-davis-likesdislikes/
May 14th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
MaddenRedneck Says:
May 14th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
It can only be a good thing with Garcia around because if Russell looks bad in the opener Davis won’t complain when Cable puts him in.
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Garcia is a backup QB. Good for a few games but will be exposed after that. Anyone relying on Garcia will be bitterly disappointed.
Garcia is in the long line of retread veterans…guys like Schroeder, George, Mirer, Wilson, Collins, Culpepper, McCown or greats like Griese, Huard, Frerotte, Kitna and other false hopes who at the end of the day can’t win and have no future upside.
May 14th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
In case no one has seen the Raiders’ future. Atkinsons baby!
http://www.contracostatimes.com/raiders/ci_12364445?source=rss
May 14th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
I’d like to see Russell run to get water.
I’d like to see Russell get angry whenever he misses a pass.
I’d like to see Russell show his character, competitive nature and leadership abilities.
May 14th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
I’d like to see Russell keep winning like the last two games the Raiders played in, I could care less for the rest.
May 14th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Maybe the real reason they brought Garcia in was to help teach Russell how to better read NFL defenses, ever consider that?
May 14th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Chucking one 30 yards downfield in a 3 step drop to DHB or Higgins will loosen the defense too.
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unless they can stuff the run w/o an 8th man down in the box. If Higgins or DHB get jammed at the line and the CB has help from a safety we’re in trouble. one of JR’s problems in accuracy, remember?
we need to get McFadden running down the sideline with blockers in front of him. short, timed passes can stop a defense from blitzing as much. gotta complete those passes though. can’t be throwing at the target’s feet
May 14th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
I don’t consider his accuracy an issue and neither do the Texans or the Bucs. If his play is anywhere close or better to the way he played at the end of last year the Raiders could wind up in the hunt for the division title.
May 14th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
And if you think he is all that lazy and not a leader watch the interception he threw versus the Bucs. The big guy making the touchdown saving tackle 50 yards downfield is Russell.
May 14th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Hey Jerry,
When are you going to start twittering?
May 14th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 14th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
I’d like to see Russell run to get water.
I’d like to see Russell get angry whenever he misses a pass.
I’d like to see Russell show his character, competitive nature and leadership abilities.
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Running for water? That’s depends on the tone and time of practice. Is it between drills or breaks in practice? That one is not one I would get worked up about.
As for getting angry at oneself…to me yelling and screaming does not necessarily display leadership. Especially after a mistake. In fact in some circles I’ve been taught that can be a sign of bad sportsmanship. Make a mistake in practice? Okay…move on
I think its hard to know what Russell is showing as far as character etc….we are not seeing him in practice…or the training room or the classroom. He’s shown leadership abilities in the way he encourages his teammates and manages the huddle.
Let’s also remember…let’s not confuse the Raiders for the Vikings here. This team has struggled across the board…offense, defense, coaching, ownership etc…and this team has struggled at just about every position with the exception of Nnamdi and Shane Lechler. QB play is not the only issue here…and other positions have impacted the ability of the QB to succeed over the last couple of years.
I say wait and see what happens in September and remember the team did finish the season as a competent football team.
May 14th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
good posts fellas. time to clock out
see ya tomorrow!
May 14th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
M Lonetree Says:
May 14th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
In case no one has seen the Raiders’ future. Atkinsons baby!
http://www.contracostatimes.com/raiders/ci_12364445?source=rss
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Nice story.
May 14th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
anybody see the last question in the live chat this week by norco bob.
LMFAO
LMFAO
I AM TEARING UP THAT WAS HILARIOUS.
May 14th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Me and my friends always speculated that the reason Walsh had to call all those 7 step drops back in 94′ was to give Tim Brown enough time to get under a 30 yard pass.
May 14th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
I HAVE SOME VACATION TIME COMING UP AND WAS WONDERING IF ANY OF YOU KNOW THE BEST TIME TO GET PICTURES AND AUTOGRAPHS WITH THE PLAYERS.
I LIVE NEAR SAN DIEGO AND WANT TO MAKE A TRIP UP BUT IM JUST NOT SURE WHEN PLAYERS ARE AVAILABLE TO PLANS IS IT OTAS OR TRAINING CAMP
THANX
May 14th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
AVAILABLE TO FANS NOY PLANS DUH LOL
May 14th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Michael Irvin went on Sean Hannity’s show yesterday, and he said that the only way he was going to ever stop cheating on his wife and smoking crack, was if God stopped him. He says he prays everyday that he will have the strength to say no to crack and infidelity. What a crutch, but if it works hey, more power to him.
May 14th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
The last thing that stands out about Brown using the race card is I never did see him go up to Shell and voice his displeasure with the way things were going. Hoss did that for him, I wonder if race played any part.
May 14th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
It didn’t appear T.Brown provided ANY Leadership while he was here. He certainly didn’t make a difference.
May 14th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
why the hell are we talking about tim brown?? is there any chance we can talk about football… this years season.. please jerry no more b.s. the noobs on here are just babbling on and on..
May 14th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jim_trotter/05/14/jamarcus/index.html
Hey, what do you know, another national guy piling on Jamarcus. Shocking!!!!
May 14th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Here’s a better article on Russell and where he is at. It was written by a fan, not a professional journalist.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/175251-it-is-pin-the-tail-on-jamarcus-russell-time-again/page/2
May 14th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Raider 35
How are you doing mister happy troll?
May 14th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Good grief!
I knew Obama was tryin to kill free speech but this is ridiculous!
May 14th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
lol wow
May 14th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
WOW,
The ax is a swingin
LOL.
Mod I think you should delete the Jim Trotter strip club remark.
It’s offensive.
May 14th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
guess that means we seen the end of those 1k posts on here.
May 14th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Thats it! Im writing a letter!
lol
May 14th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
# Raider Dell Says:
May 14th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Raider 35
How are you doing mister happy troll?
I was doing good Dell
I guess the mod doesn’t like happy trolls 
May 14th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
That’s whats really been the issues with this blog more so than the registration I think. Why are some posts deleted for no practical reason and some left up that are very offensive.
We still have troll activity, granted not as much but I am 100% sure my posts regarding these issues will not be here tomorrow.
May 14th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
If I had Hammer, I’d Hammer in the morning, I’d Hammer in the evening all over this blog…
May 14th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
My favorite Raider of all time was Ted Hendricks. He had a knack for being in the right place all the time. His antics aside he was a great player who knew how to play between the lines.
When you needed a punt blocked or a fG blocked he was the player who could elevate his game.
The stork was fun to watch, I haven’t seen a player in 20 years who has grabbed my attention like the stork. Bo came awfully close, so did Matt Millen. What say you out there, who is your favorite.
May 14th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
What’s up Dell, Len, and Nation?
May 14th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Raider O
This comment may get deleted, so I’ll say a Raider hello.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Did you guys see this in live chat with jerry this week?
[Comment From Norco Bob]
Jerry you are a weak little man.
jerrymac: You’re right.
I am still LMAO
May 14th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Hey Dell
Warren Hayes!!
May 14th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Raider Dell Says:
May 14th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
My favorite Raider of all time was Ted Hendricks. He had a knack for being in the right place all the time. His antics aside he was a great player who knew how to play between the lines.
When you needed a punt blocked or a fG blocked he was the player who could elevate his game.
The stork was fun to watch, I haven’t seen a player in 20 years who has grabbed my attention like the stork. Bo came awfully close, so did Matt Millen. What say you out there, who is your favorite.
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Dell,
I’ve thought about it, and I agree.
The Stork did everything well.
He had a knack for making a play consistently.
Bo, if only He’s not been injured.
He was the best I ever saw.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Raider O,
How ya doin?
3 or 4 Hrs of posts…PFFT gone. lol.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Elvis
RaiderDogg last night commented to me the Allman Brothers concert was great, I wish I could of attended.
Together with friends, great music and your favorite adult beverage, heaven never felt so good. Probably a little to dramatic, still wish I had gone.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Theres really nothing for Tim to clarify here all he did was repeat “someone” told him.
Jerry whats Janos favorite mixed drink this year ?
May 14th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
RaiderLen
What Raider player in the last 20 to 25 years could us fans count on to make a “play” during a critical time of the game. I can’t think of one player, can you?
May 14th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
I agree 100% Dell
Great music good drinks hot women to look at ahhhh.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
thank goodness for OTA’s next week, something to talk about soon
May 14th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Raider Dell Says:
May 14th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
RaiderLen
What Raider player in the last 20 to 25 years could us fans count on to make a “play” during a critical time of the game. I can’t think of one player, can you?
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Dell,
I’m drawing a blank.
The best I can come up with was C Wood sacking Brady in the Tuck Game.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
My favorite Raider is Atkinson.
Tatum was great, but George had it all. Speed, hands, and a big mouth. He still calls Swann soft!! I love it.
I like Tatum a lot. I like them both, I really can’t pick one.
Tatum was a harder hitter than George, but George looked crazy on the field. So did Tatum!!
I can’t pick!!
May 14th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Raider O Says:
May 14th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
My favorite Raider is Atkinson.
Tatum was great, but George had it all. Speed, hands, and a big mouth. He still calls Swann soft!! I love it.
I like Tatum a lot. I like them both, I really can’t pick one.
Tatum was a harder hitter than George, but George looked crazy on the field. So did Tatum!!
I can’t pick!!
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I’ll go with Tatum.
He left burning impressions of violent hits on my brain.
I loved it.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Indiana Raider
The media will report DHB drops, Jamarcus weight, and the following will occur:
Burgess is a no show-what does his absence mean.
Gallery is still not playing, how hurt is he.
Peter King will write how the Raider are dysfunctional team for the hundreds of times others have.
Al davis is, Al Davis.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Len,
I’m good bro, how are you?
It controls all, it’s the master and post deleter/ keeper of this entire world AKA Jerry’s blog!!!
LMAO
May 14th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
but our comments will still get deleted as soon as we post eh Dell? lol
May 14th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Raider O,
All is well.
The Mod has to be the Mod. ehh…
Who cares?
May 14th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
looks like the rockets are going to force a game seven
May 14th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
IndianaRaider
Late back there. What part of Indiana do you live.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Evansville, I can almost spit on KY from my backyard
May 14th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Len,
Tatum was great, and I did love those hits man. Nasty, just …. Nasty!!!
In that SB win against the Giants, Tatum killed that Rookie WR!! If you watch Atkinson that game, George made a play on a WR. He hit him, and then took the ball from him and ran it back for 6. Looked crazy. The Swann thing!!
I can’t pick!! I like them both.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
RaiderLen
We both chose defensive players who made plays, let’s go to the offensive side and here’s my favorite player.
I was a Freddie B guy, not with standing the stickum, but I can saw with out a doubt no player used more of his skills than Freddie B.
The routes, the timing with the Qb, the heart and determination was always on display when he played.
He was a real Raider, to me, what that means is a team player who just would not quit and worked to be better every year.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
IndianaRaider
Thanks, that is GOD’S country.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
where the men are men, and the sheep are scared
May 14th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Dell, Len
On Offense I would go with the Snake, my father liked Lamonica and Freddie.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
RaiderLen,Raider O, IndianaRaider
Where on this blog and I would like your opinion. Who of the free agents (Frantz, Nixon etc..) will a least make the practice squad. Truthfully, I have no idea who these guys are, just want a guess to what you know.
Please keep in mind the Davis crede of Height, weight and speed. Who stays?
May 14th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
G-O N-U-G-G-E-T-S
May 14th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Happy troll
Keep on smiling.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Raider Dell Says:
May 14th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
RaiderLen
We both chose defensive players who made plays, let’s go to the offensive side and here’s my favorite player.
I was a Freddie B guy, not with standing the stickum, but I can saw with out a doubt no player used more of his skills than Freddie B.
The routes, the timing with the Qb, the heart and determination was always on display when he played.
He was a real Raider, to me, what that means is a team player who just would not quit and worked to be better every year.
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Dell,
Freddy B would be my choice as well.
Stabler, Casper right behind.
Fred caught everything under all circumstances.
What made Him a HOF’er in my estimation, is that the Country was able to witness in Big games the things we saw every week.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
I’ll bet buttholeprik
can say whatever he wants and the mod will kiss his butt 
But when a poor little troll 
says something that is not in the least way controversial 
then zap 
the poor little troll’s 
post is gone :rollL WHAT’S UP WITH THAT 
May 14th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Raider Dell Says:
May 14th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
RaiderLen,Raider O, IndianaRaider
Where on this blog and I would like your opinion. Who of the free agents (Frantz, Nixon etc..) will a least make the practice squad. Truthfully, I have no idea who these guys are, just want a guess to what you know.
Please keep in mind the Davis crede of Height, weight and speed. Who stays?
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Dell,
I’d say the DT from Notre Dame, Frantz, Mabey Boyd, and after that…
I don’t know.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Dell,
I don’t know much about Nixon.
Frantz Joseph is a MLB, he is a hard hitter, had 150+ tackles his last 2 years at college, but he doesn’t have the speed that Al wants.
I still think he will make the team as a backup MLB. He reminds me of G Biekert. Not fast, but smart and has a nose for the ball. Al likes that. IMHO
May 14th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Correction, the DT from Harvard,
Notre Dame on the Brain.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
What DT from ND, do you mean Harvard?
May 14th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Off to Bed.
Talk to you later Dell and O.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Len,
lol,
His name is Bryant.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Good night Len.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
RaiderLen
Good choices on the players. Reminds me why this blog is so difficult to see all the comments about what we viewed 20 to 25 years ago of our favorite Raider players.
Most of the comments concerning Davis, are from young adults who were born after 1980. They have read, heard about the Raiders. They are hungry for a Championship and I can’t blame them, especially when they get frustrated with Al Davis.
The age difference is a one where those of us have seen the Championships, and yet I want so bad for the young adults to have their time to.
Let’s hope it happens sooner rather than later.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Goodnight Len.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Raider O
Seems like I missed the great action earlier today. That would of been interesting to see the comments from the blog defending Davis versus MR.
The life and times of work always get in the way.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
I’m off to gouge some ice cream, Raider on?
G to G.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Dell,
I like Bryant too ( DT from Harvard), he can play Base End and UT. He is like TK, but younger.
He has long arms, very good speed for his size, and he is strong.
He is 6′6 290, did 35 reps on the Bench, and ran a 4.90 and a 4.85.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Enjoy the ice cream Dell.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Dell,
I’m young too, born in 79.
I like Al because I know the history of the Raiders.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
DAAAAAMN Lakers! Crap….oh well.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Dell made me hungry, or that could be due to the Cush. lol
Later Nation.
May 14th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
We Raider fans all know that Al Davis was the first owner to have a black head coach, Art Shell, who he promoted from within the organization. Thus, opening the door to further black head coaches.
It only bears repeating because of the garbage the media is making out of the Tim Brown story and comments made to Brown when he first came on board about Al Davis and his take on blacks from Notre Dame.
May 14th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
On a previous topic about our defense and the new defensive coordinator, Marshall, I didn’t see one comment agreeing with Kiffin’s desire to can the fat ass Ryan.
All you Kiffin haters, have to give Kiffin his kudos on wanting to get rid of a fat loser like Ryan, who destroyed our defense, year after year, with his no blitzing games and his prevent defense which only prevents you from winning. What a loser Ryan was, and Al Davis has to take the blame there big, big time as he kept Ryan and got rid of Kiffin. Nice going Al. Another great move, much like the move to trade Gruden and then have Gruden take the Super Bowl away from us and hand it to Tampa on a silver platter. Wow, you can’t dream up stories like these, someone would call then fiction.
May 14th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Good nite Raider fans, it appears you all went to sleep, especially after being reminded that Davis trader Gruden and loss the Super Bowl the following year. Beyond tragic.
Thank God for the end on contracts and that Rob freaking Ryan and his fat ass are gone. What a loser he was, and what idiots the Raiders were for keeping this moran around for six-years. Can’t get worst than that…that’s for sure.
Nite, you all.
May 15th, 2009 at 12:51 am
Jeff Garcia 2009…Tim Tebow 2010. I have spoken. Jamarcus who? Youre welcome.
May 15th, 2009 at 12:53 am
Jeff Garcia wins superbowl…retires,..Gov Terminator gives Jeff the city of Gilroy as a gift,…becomes Garlic God,…thats how I see it anyway,…Jamarcus who?…youre welcome.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:09 am
fukk this place. this has gotten worse then RF net, china and russia put together. fukk u u sob mods!!!!!!!!!!!
May 15th, 2009 at 5:31 am
Morning NATION!!!
May 15th, 2009 at 5:48 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Geez…its been awhile. How’s the AM Crew doing this Friday morning?
Morning shout outs to 4eva, Rockstar, Dirt Lot, LMN, NMF, and all those I may have missed!!! IT slipped and let me back on. Don’t know how long though…
So, Timmy is back in the media again. I’ve been out of it too long. Thoughts?
May 15th, 2009 at 6:04 am
Morning Hwnrdr!!!
Glad you’re back!!!.No news so the dumb azz media got nothing better 2 do,so they might as well create some bullsh!t story 2 justify their lousy existence =)
May 15th, 2009 at 6:04 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, HWNDRRRRR,WE WERE JUST TALKING BAD ABOUT U A DAY OR 2 AGO.I THINK IT WAS ROCKSTAR THAT WAS WONDERING WHAT WAS UP AND U HAD BEEN.GOOD 2 HEAR FROM U. ‘MORNING 4EVA, N M F, EVERYONE..
May 15th, 2009 at 6:05 am
Its all about the he said she said bullsh!t
May 15th, 2009 at 6:06 am
What’s up fellas!!
May 15th, 2009 at 6:08 am
Its good to be back guys. Thanks! I missed the morning conversation on here.
Yeah, I hear ya on the “he said she said BS” 4eva. i guess even Jerry needs to have job security, huh?
Dirt Lot…I hope it wasn’t too bad…LOL
May 15th, 2009 at 6:09 am
Good morning. Such a different feel to the AM group vs the evening BS.
May 15th, 2009 at 6:15 am
Oh yeah, that is why I stopped going on in the evening. They go off into their own world in th PM.
May 15th, 2009 at 6:16 am
NOT SURE WHAT 2 THINK ON THE TIM BROWN THING,I CAN SEE HIM BEING PISS’D HE DID NOT GET A HIGH PROFILE FRONT OFFICE POSITION,CAN ALSO SEE THE MEDIA TWISTING EVERYTHING AS 4EVA POINTED OUT.MAYBE A LITTLE OF BOTH,I DONT KNOW..
May 15th, 2009 at 6:16 am
whoa. good morning Hwnrdr and HAPPY FRIDAY!
how the heck are ya?
May 15th, 2009 at 6:17 am
GOOD MORNING MIDWEST FAN, WELCOME..
May 15th, 2009 at 6:19 am
Doing good Rockstar. My IT dept somehow blocked the blog portion of CC Times/Raiders for awhile so I couldn’t even sign on if I wanted to. I figured I try this morning and it worked. Taking advantage of the window of opportunity here…
How are you doing? And yes, it is a Happy Friday…payday too!!!
May 15th, 2009 at 6:25 am
woohoo. payday is always a good day. your work’s loss our our gain! Hwnrdr is back in black
what do you make of the most recent signings of RB Gary Russell, QB Danny Southwick, WR Samie Parker & TE/FB J.P. Foschi?
May 15th, 2009 at 6:27 am
good morning Dirt Lot, 4eva, NMF & Midwest …
sorry. didn’t mean to be rude
Hwnrdr once was lost, but now is found!
May 15th, 2009 at 6:28 am
I think that they are as of now practice squad/OTA’s Training Camp signings. If one of them breaks the roster in Sept. I’ll be darned. Foschi hasn’t played in what? 4 years? Could be interesting!!! As for the rest, I truthfully have no idea. i’ve been out too long…
May 15th, 2009 at 6:30 am
who would have thought that the Magic & Rockets would take the Celtics & Lakers to 7 games? Not me …
what a HUGE upset that would be if one or both of these teams actually won Game 7!
I’d be all for it actually
May 15th, 2009 at 6:33 am
I think that they are as of now practice squad/OTA’s Training Camp signings. If one of them breaks the roster in Sept. I’ll be darned.
***
I was thinking the same thing. camp fodder
I read somewhere that Foschi was out of football in 2007. played as a reserve for the Chiefs last season
can we say “pro bowl potential” ? lol
May 15th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Every new morning brings a fresh hope that Al is one step closer to turning the Raiders over to someone that does not let their ego get in the way of winning. Someone who is smart enough to cut his losses on coaches and players that will not give 100% toward the goal of winning.
May 15th, 2009 at 6:35 am
If the Lakers lose,we’re all gonna have 2 pitch in and send a truck-load of tissue 2 Dakota =)
May 15th, 2009 at 6:38 am
HEY ROCKSTAR.I SENT OFF A SHORT RESPONSE TO THE GLENN DICKEY THING YESTERDAY,OR DAY B4,HE MENTIONED BEING AROUND 40 YRS. AND AQUIRING A LOT OF SMART’S, A SAID “SEEM’S LIKE AFTER 40 YRS U WOULD AQUIRE SOME KNOELEDGE” HE E-MALED ME BACK THANKING ME 4 CONFIRMING HIS KNOWLEDGE THAT MOST SPORT’S FANS WERE IDIOT’S, I THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY ANYWAY..
May 15th, 2009 at 6:40 am
Dirt Lot: did you see DHB on SportsCenter this morning?
He was one of five rookies they had on there. the other four were Jason Smith, Knowshon Moreno, Jeremy Maclin and Josh Freeman …
May 15th, 2009 at 6:43 am
that’s funny Dirt Lot!
Glenn Dickey basically called you an idiot?
Jerry Mac was nicer than that to Norco Bob in the live chat … haha
May 15th, 2009 at 6:47 am
Pro Bowl potential…
You know nothing will surprise me, but I still will be darned!!!
Jerry was nice to Norco Bob? haha
What did DHB have to say?
May 15th, 2009 at 6:47 am
4evaRaider Says:
If the Lakers lose,we’re all gonna have 2 pitch in and send a truck-load of tissue 2 Dakota =)
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Send Dak a truck-load of tissue anyway because the Nuggets are going to hammer them flat.
May 15th, 2009 at 6:47 am
NO, DID NOT CATCH SPORT’S CENTER THIS A.M. WHAT DID THEY HAVE 2 SAY ? BEEN READING DICKEY 4 YEARS, HE KNOW’S CAL SPORT’S AND THE RAIDER’S I THINK MORE THAN ANY OTHER SPORT’S WRITER, LOCAL OR NATIONAL..
May 15th, 2009 at 6:49 am
Pressed later in the chat by a reader who asked how the Bucs can be successful on offense with players like Luke McCown and Michael Clayton, Sapp snapped back. “Antonio Bryant, Kellen Winslow Jr., Cadillac Williams, Derrick Ward in the backfield,” Sapp said. “Who just won the Super Bowl? Name one offensive lineman on the Pittsburgh Steelers. It isn’t the names, it’s the cameraderie. Stop being a fan, might want to learn something. I actually went to the facility. I don’t read the newspapers.”
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Warren Sapp is still a Bucs homer. LOL.
He’s always trashing the Raiders, but I’d take Russell, Bush, McFadden, DHB, Schilens and Miller over guys like McCown, Williams, Ward, Clayton, Bryant and Winslow Jr any day of the week!
May 15th, 2009 at 6:51 am
Did Sapp open another can of dumbass on himself?
May 15th, 2009 at 6:53 am
they said on there that DHB was worth the pick. Then asked him why he thought he was the first WR taken. He said he was first off the board because he fits the Raiders offense and what they are trying to accomplish over there. pretty humble guy.
Know Moreno bragged on himself big time about being the first RB taken …
May 15th, 2009 at 6:55 am
RaiderRockstar
Yeah after the Buccs wanted nothing to do with Mr. Big Mouth Sapp. What does he do, he defends the team that dumped him and trashes the team that gave him a second chance. He should have joined Tampa for one day to retire a Bucc.
Big mouth, Big mouth, Big mouth. This guy did nothing for the Raiders!!!!
May 15th, 2009 at 6:58 am
Warren Sapp is still a Bucs homer. LOL.
I remember when Sapp first became a Raider, he said that he is still a Buc but in Silver and Black. From then on I knew that he really wasn’t loyal…
All the stuff that I hear or see from DHB he has been humble, even when everyone was laughing at him going to the Raiders. Hope he pulls through…
May 15th, 2009 at 6:58 am
GREAT LINE RAIDER TW, MR. SAPP DUMPING THAT CAN OF DUMBASS ALL OVER HIMSELF.. LMAO
May 15th, 2009 at 6:59 am
OK, I take my losses like a man. We got punked in the 1st Q like a prison bitch. Mark my words, we will blow them out by 25 in game 7.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:00 am
Raiders should have gotten Lynch instead.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:01 am
Sapp is a perfect example of what to much weed and red meat will do to the brain.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:02 am
Gasol played like a wussy and should have been benched.
Where was the Laker ball movement? Non-existent.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:02 am
CJ you forgot the fat & ego going to his head also.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:06 am
First of all Sapp is a buffoon. Houston is a tough team and would be giving Denver, Orlando, Cleveland and Boston fits. What the He!! happened to Vujacich and Fisher’s Shot’s? Those guys have been horrible!
May 15th, 2009 at 7:10 am
SEE IF THEY CAN GET SAPP AND TIM BROWN IN THE SAME ROOM,SHOULD GET SOME DRIBBLE OUT OF THAT CONVERSATION…
May 15th, 2009 at 7:10 am
Houston’s pt guard is too fast for Fisher to cover.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:16 am
Aaron Brooks is fast. I watched him at Oregon. Feel myself rooting for Houston b/c they beat my Blazers. Just don’t want Denver to win so who ever has a better chance to beat them is all I want out of the Western finals.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:22 am
I watched Grey’s Anatomy instead of the Lakers last night…less drama than the Lakers.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:30 am
Dakota: the Lakers looked like the Desperate Housewives last night
May 15th, 2009 at 7:46 am
Lakers are looking like chumps. If they lose game 7 I am sure Kobe will opt out and the curtain will finally fall in the Lakers…for a year or two…when is Lebron a free agent?
May 15th, 2009 at 7:54 am
Hey Kobe, how does my ass taste?
May 15th, 2009 at 7:54 am
Kobe and Labron togeather would be like watching Tom&Jerry….Labron would be Jerry
May 15th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Kobe will drop 40+ in gm 7 count on it !!
May 15th, 2009 at 8:10 am
I thought Andrew Bynum was coming back for the playoffs??
May 15th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Like he dropped 40 on the Suns back in 2006? Oh wait, he just stopped shooting in that game.
I trust Kobe about as much as I trust Al Davis.
May 15th, 2009 at 8:19 am
I trust Kobe about as much as I trust Al Davis.
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Kobe Bryant is more racist than Al Davis …
May 15th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Once again Dakota ….
As long as we are counting on Gasoft do defend our basket ….
We’ll probably win game 7, but WTF is Gasoft going to do with Chauncy off the P&R if he can’t handle Brooks?
He’s getting punked by Hayes and Landry ?!?!? LOL, wait until he gets a load of KMart!
May 15th, 2009 at 8:28 am
Well, we can always hope the NBA puts the right officiating crew on the game, lol.
May 15th, 2009 at 8:31 am
lakers need a game 7 to see if they got what it takes to win the title(which is still in question at this point)
May 15th, 2009 at 8:31 am
Gasoft isn’t the only one supposed to be guarding the basket, Bynum is too and again, he had zero blocks.
Ummm, as to K-mart, how well did K-mart handle Gasol in last year’s playoffs? I think even that soft Euro made K-mart his biotch. Billups will win that series for Denver. Billups has always made Fisher his biotch.
May 15th, 2009 at 8:31 am
It’s about time for PJ to retire …
The magic is gone. He benches Sasha, but not Gasoft? The players were ALL OVER Gasoft in the first QTR. I thought Kobe was going to snap his neck. Even PJ said he wasn’t playing hard in the interview, but he kept him out there.
Fisher trying to shoot his way out of his slump in the first qtr was LAUGHABLE!
Just don’t understand all the jumpshots instead of going down low! Oh, that’s right, Gasoft didn’t want the rock and kept throwing it back out.
LMFAO at this team!
May 15th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Kobe Bryant = the Philip Rivers of basketball
May 15th, 2009 at 8:33 am
depressing
May 15th, 2009 at 8:33 am
you rite hill, way too many jump shots, and fish needs to retire after this year
May 15th, 2009 at 8:35 am
you guys are forgetting that the rockets are a good home team and probably more athletic and faster without yao, the lakers are getting battle tested which is a good thing, instead of the cakewalk the cavs are going thru
May 15th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Bet the HOSE on BOSTON -2.5 and the Lakers -12.5…………..I am!!!!
EASY MONEY!!
GO LAKERS!!!
May 15th, 2009 at 8:37 am
HOUSE!! LOL!!
May 15th, 2009 at 8:37 am
remember the game 7 against the blazers, awesome, those series against them and the kings, prepares a team for the next step, which is a championship
May 15th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Bynum can’t even get in the game ….
Scola abused Gasol right off the bat and set the tone of a 17-1 start. That was ALL Scola vs. Gasoft.
Come back down on the other end, throw it to Gasoft. Instead of going to work, instantly kicks it back out. You could clearly see that Gasoft wasn’t up for the fight from the tip. The guards noticed it, and started firing instead of going inside.
When the Lakers are shooting long jumpers instead of pounding it inside, it’s 50-50 at best on the outcome.
Gasoft should be DOMINATING Hayes, right? Causing the Rockets to double, which should open everything up. Like game 5. But Gasoft’s refusal to fight? None of it happens. You’ll need Kobe to get 50.
May 15th, 2009 at 8:39 am
Both Games will be BLOW OUTS!! I cant stand the Celts…..But I see 2 blow out games.
May 15th, 2009 at 8:41 am
jhill Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Bynum can’t even get in the game ….
Scola abused Gasol right off the bat and set the tone of a 17-1 start. That was ALL Scola vs. Gasoft.
Come back down on the other end, throw it to Gasoft. Instead of going to work, instantly kicks it back out. You could clearly see that Gasoft wasn’t up for the fight from the tip. The guards noticed it, and started firing instead of going inside.
When the Lakers are shooting long jumpers instead of pounding it inside, it’s 50-50 at best on the outcome.
Gasoft should be DOMINATING Hayes, right? Causing the Rockets to double, which should open everything up. Like game 5. But Gasoft’s refusal to fight? None of it happens. You’ll need Kobe to get 50
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i saw the same thing, and fish firing from 3 when were down by 15 is a joke, once again he made brooks look like an all-star
May 15th, 2009 at 8:42 am
PJs Lakers have NEVER been able to defend the pick and roll … never!
Last year Gasoft had his way with an Allen Iverson led Nuggest team, and I distinctly remember KMart guarding Kobe. I could be wrong on that though.
Regardless, this is a whole different Nuggests team, and Gasoft against Chauncey on the pick n roll will equal a loss for the Lakers in the series.
Take it to the bank!
May 15th, 2009 at 8:45 am
no way hill, lakers are going to win that series, along with the title, besides who is going to run the p&r with billups?
May 15th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Several players have switched uniform numbers from last year. They include defensive tackle William Joseph going from No. 96 to No. 94, quarterback Bruce Gradkowski freed up No. 7 for fellow quarterback Jeff Garcia and switched to No. 5, running back Louis Rankin let veteran fullback Lorenzo Neal have his No. 41 and assumed No. 40.
Rookie receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey asked for No. 12 so that he could honor the father of a close friend who died recently. That person, Richard Woodlee, “He’s been a father figure to me ever since I was seven,” Heyward-Bey said at the team’s mini camp last weekend. “His high school and college number was 12, so that’s how I came up with that number.”
Heyward-Bey said he intends to keep the number, but only if Davis signs off on the decision.
“I would like to,” Heyward-Bey said, “but Mr. Davis has to say if he’s OK with that.”
Don’t buy your No. 12 Heyward-Bey jerseys just yet.
The league already has made it clear that Heyward-Bey is free to wear the number most often associated with quarterbacks.
The league amended the rule in 2004 to allow receivers to wear uniform numbers aside from those from 80-89. The changed rule added the numbers from 10-19 as options for receivers.
-Raider Beat
May 15th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Several players have switched uniform numbers from last year.
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they need to switch there attitude and practice habits and start winning some games for us
May 15th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Yes Sir 87 …
We saw it like it was. I bleed Purple & Gold all day long (well out of my left arm b/c it’s S&B in the rest of my body!) but I will certainly call it like I see it. Don’t talk to me about the refs, or Houston’s “effort”, or home court, or warm up games.
Like Van Gundy said on the telecast, at this point of the season, you are what you are. We have had NO front court toughness since Bynum got hurt, and we are not going to magically get it back with now. Bynum is probably 70% at best. PJ refuses to play Powell and MBenga, so Gasoft it is, and let’s hope we can score 110 pts. That’s the plan.
May 15th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Former NFL player Solomon Wilcots was asked Thursday which team will be the surprise team in 2009.
“I think a team like the Raiders could surprise people. If you’re talking a shocker like Atlanta was last year, it could be the Raiders. They’ve got an easy schedule and are in a weak division. If they get they’re act together, I guarantee they can start beating people.
“They’ve got talent. And if Jeff Garcia gets to play, they will start winning some games. And they might win with JaMarcus Russell, but I know they aren’t going to lose with Russell, because if they lose with him, they’ll switch to Garcia.” Wilcots said on NFL Network.
-Raider Beat
May 15th, 2009 at 8:51 am
Who’s running the pick and roll with Brooks?
The point is once Gasoft steps up above the FT line to take Chaubcey (why they are defending it that way fromt he start is BAFFLING!), who is there to guard the basket?
Carmelo, Nene, and KMart will be open all day!
Then comes JR Swish in the corner for 3.
May 15th, 2009 at 8:52 am
jhill Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Yes Sir 87 …
We saw it like it was. I bleed Purple & Gold all day long (well out of my left arm b/c it’s S&B in the rest of my body!) but I will certainly call it like I see it. Don’t talk to me about the refs, or Houston’s “effort”, or home court, or warm up games.
Like Van Gundy said on the telecast, at this point of the season, you are what you are. We have had NO front court toughness since Bynum got hurt, and we are not going to magically get it back with now. Bynum is probably 70% at best. PJ refuses to play Powell and MBenga, so Gasoft it is, and let’s hope we can score 110 pts. That’s the plan.
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theres going to be bumps in the road for sure, lakers are more physical than last year(not by much) were not going to win every game cuz the west is rough, but we got this, we match up better against the nuggets, who dont play as nearly as tough on d as the rockets
May 15th, 2009 at 8:52 am
they need to switch there attitude and practice habits and start winning some games for us
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raidersince87: I’m not counting on Bruce Gradkowski, Louis Rankin or William Joseph to be major contributers this season, but I could be wrong …
May 15th, 2009 at 8:53 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 8:52 am
they need to switch there attitude and practice habits and start winning some games for us
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raidersince87: I’m not counting on Bruce Gradkowski, Louis Rankin or William Joseph to be major contributers this season, but I could be wrong …
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lol me either
May 15th, 2009 at 8:54 am
gotta get back to work, i out nation
May 15th, 2009 at 8:54 am
see ya 87
May 15th, 2009 at 9:14 am
OTAs start today? The 15th, right?
May 15th, 2009 at 9:21 am
ESPN’s website has an article discussing DHB as being on the hot seat because he was drafted ahead of Crabtree. I’ll give them that. But if he’s on the hot seat, so is Crabtree IMO. He has to prove that he deserved to be the #1 WR and that he deserved all the hype. I personally hope Crabtree falls flat on his face and gets exposed as a prima donna.
May 15th, 2009 at 9:25 am
ESPN’s website has an article discussing DHB as being on the hot seat
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That made me madder than a legless Ethiopian watchin’ a doughnut roll down a hill.
May 15th, 2009 at 9:26 am
lol rockstar
May 15th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Good morning Nation.
The lakers will win in game 7, they just have DQS.
Drama Queen Syndrome!!
May 15th, 2009 at 9:31 am
RR,
LMFAO
Sick!!! Dude, that’s sick!!! And Funny as hell!!
LMAO
May 15th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Who will be our most productive WR this season?
DHB, Walker, Higgins, Schilens, Murphy or Holland?
May 15th, 2009 at 9:34 am
May 15th, 2009 at 9:35 am
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May 15th, 2009 at 9:44 am
I’ll say Chaz will have the best season, and JLH will finish 1st or 2nd on the team with all purpose yards. IMO
May 15th, 2009 at 9:46 am
RR, Miller wll catch the most balls anyway.
May 15th, 2009 at 9:47 am
In all honesty, I don’t see our offense improving that much when compared to last year. I can see maybe a few more TD from Russell and maybe 2-300 more yards, and then maybe Bush & McFadden with 6-700 yards and of course Fargas will have 4-500 yards. If we can finish 7-9 or better, then this season was a success compared to the last 6 years. Anything less is more of the same we have grown used to.
May 15th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Garcia will catch the most to the face.
May 15th, 2009 at 9:50 am
TW,
Miller wasn’t on RR’s list, pick a WR. lol
May 15th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Miller wll catch the most balls anyway.
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Agreed. McFadden might even be 2nd in receptions.
Chaz Schilens was BY FAR the best WR in camp according to most reports, but it was only the first mini camp so there is still time for DHB and Murphy to catch up.
Since DHB comes from a pro style offense his transition to the NFL should be easier than Murphy’s, even though Murphy faced tougher competition at Florida. Plus I think Murphy had a knee injury not too long ago. I don’t think Walker will ever return to pro bowl form in Oakland. He might not even make the squad if Holland keeps impressing. I think Higgins will be used mainly on special teams again, barring injuries at the WR position. He does have that ability to take a short pass and make it a long gain though on any given play. plus I like his back flips in the end zone!
May 15th, 2009 at 10:03 am
I say Bush and DMC will both have 1000 yards this season, and DMC will have around 500 yards in catches. Miller will lead the team in catches 70+, and Chaz may get his 1000 yards season. No less than 6-10, and I really think 9-7 can be done!!IMHO
May 15th, 2009 at 10:03 am
sorry for the long train of thought in post #285 with no clear cut answer (err… opinion)
I think Darrius Heyward-Bey will be our most productive WR this season.
I think he’ll surprise many haters and make a big impact this season. He may drop a few easy balls early, but from the bye week on I think he’ll be straight up EXPLOSIVE!
May 15th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Last year, we could have finished at 7-9.
Bills game.
1st charger game.
2nd KC game.
We should have won all 3 games!!!
May 15th, 2009 at 10:08 am
RR,
I don’t agree. I just can’t see the Rookie doing better than Chaz or JLH!!!
May 15th, 2009 at 10:13 am
I like Chaz a lot.
If you look at last year, Chaz wasn’t ready to play. He was in due to him being the best run blocker among WRs. At the end of the season, he was running good routes, and made some nice catches.
I expect more from him now after he had a full season to learn our Offense.
May 15th, 2009 at 10:37 am
I’m gonna have to go with Chaz. Good point about DHB coming from a pro style offense but I still don’t see the rook taking things over in his first year.
Whoever it is, I don’t think his numbers will be very impressive anyway. As mentioned by some of you guys, I see a lot of passes going to Miller and DMC this season.
If DMC can stay healthy, I’m thinking pro bowl for the kid and Raider offensive MVP.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
IndianaRaider Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 9:47 am
In all honesty, I don’t see our offense improving that much when compared to last year. I can see maybe a few more TD from Russell and maybe 2-300 more yards, and then maybe Bush & McFadden with 6-700 yards and of course Fargas will have 4-500 yards. If we can finish 7-9 or better, then this season was a success compared to the last 6 years. Anything less is more of the same we have grown used to.
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“just say 4-12 baby” Oh well its the raiders whats new.
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