Garcia doesn’t close door on starting
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, May 15th, 2009 at 11:46 am in Oakland Raiders.
He played the good soldier as erstwhile backup at the Raiders three-day minicamp, but Jeff Garcia left the door open to wedging his way in as the starter in a radio interview with KLAC in Los Angeles.
In Alameda, Garcia said he felt he could still be a starter, but realized his role in Oakland. There was no gray area, no inferences about winning the starting job.
Garcia remained diplomatic, but there was a subtle shift in his stance during the radio interview with Chris Myers, particularly in this passage:
“Well, I’m not going to say that things can’t change and I understand that the role I have basically assumes going into Oakland knowing that JaMarcus was drafted to be the starting quarterback there. But I think there has to be some realization at some point as to putting the best players on the field that are you going to give you the best chance to win.
“Now, if JaMarcus is that guy, then he definitely deserves to be on the field and should be on the field. But if for some reason with what I bring as a player, from a competitive nature, and just the intensity and emotion that I bring to the field, and the knowledge of the game that I have – if that gives us a better chance to win football games, then that decision is going to have to be left up to the coach and hopefully he can make the right decision for the team.
“Because that’s really what it’s all about – it’s about the team, it’s not about protecting egos, or protecting investment dollars, it’s about what’s going to give this team a chance to win football games. And honestly, if JaMarcus can be that guy, then more power to him, because that’s what he was drafted to do for the team. But it doesn’t always seem to work out that way.”
Interesting sidelight _ Garcia said he has never spoken with Al Davis. Not as an opponent, not as a Raider.
Click here to listen to the entire interview, courtesy of sportsradiointerviews.com.
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May 15th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Garcia is going to push Russell but that’s about it.
May 15th, 2009 at 11:51 am
2nd
May 15th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Screw Jeff Garcia.
May 15th, 2009 at 11:56 am
I heard that interview when they talked to him. He said nothing different that anyone whos competing for a job wouldn’t say.
But I’ll say one thing you ask this guy one question and he’ll answer it for five minutes.
Boy can he talk.
May 15th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Of course that is what Garcia would say. That is one reason he was brought in. I don’t see how JR could fail, the offense is going to be run the ball, run the ball some more and when you are done with that, run the ball some more. Eventually the defense will get sick of it and bring down a safety and that is when you throw deep to pull the safety back. After that, you start over with the run. The Raiders have the offensive line and backs to be able to run, JR seems to be able to throw deep and throw short dump offs. If that is the strategy, all talk of trading a running back is inane. If that isn’t the strategy, I don’t know a strategy that works better for their current roster.
May 15th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
At the very least Russell is going to be looking over his shoulder and thats a good thing. Cant really find fault with anything he said but our future is more important than winning a couple of extra games this year. We need to build from the draft and we’ve hopefully made a good start. Garcia must stay on the bench unless J_Russ is injured.
May 15th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
This speculation is all academic considering that JR will probably get hurt at some point of the season, and Jeff Garcia will get his chance.
May 15th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
I agree oak.
May 15th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
this is not garcias team keep him on the bench.if he starts i am going to mad as hell
May 15th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
You guys know Garcia is 40 years old!!!
May 15th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Hey O. Everyone here was down on Ryan, but Calling a defense is a lot like pitching a baseball game. If you are a pitcher, and you are losing a game 2-0, you can’t take chances. You can’t throw your splitter in the dirt, or get behind on hitters because the game will get away from you quickly. Same thing with Ryan and the defense. Rarely, if ever during his tenure here, was he ahead, where he could take some chances. They also said he never developed anyone. Well, Nnamdi, Howard and Kelly aren’t bad. The big issue with Ryan was he was a bit undisciplined, and his defense played undisciplined. Guys left their assignments, tackling was atrocious, that was his fault and his downfall here. But for the most part he called a good game.
May 15th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
I dont care who a player is or a person for that matter, in business you always think your better then the guy next to you.I would expect nothing different coming out of this mouth…what do you think bush was saying all of last year, mabe not in public but saying it or thinking it none the less..find me any WR that doest think he is better then the next guy its just the competitive nature in all of us..shoot look at some guys on this blog that think there better then everyone else. just the way it is
May 15th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
If Garcia doesn’t start, and he won’t, let’s see how long it takes for Maddenraider to label Al Davis a bigot because he won’t play red headed gay guys from San Jo State.
May 15th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Way to kick the hornets nest, Jerry.
Chris Myers is a hater, he has been ball washing up Garcia since he signed with us.
Wonder if the m-d took her midol today?
May 15th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
I’m glad Russell feels pressured. He should
this is his 3rd NFL season. That is when most 1st Round draft picks blossom into solid starters and franchise type players.
competition is good. a back up plan is good.
If Garcia came in last year for an injured Russell when we played against the Panthers we would have won that game. guaranteed. we had Andrew Walter back there and he played just as bad as he did back in 2006 under the Shell/Walsh debacle
seriously. what can guys like McCown, Culpepper, Walter & Tui teach Russell about football? nothing.
He finally has a QB coach and a veteran mentor. nobody should complain about Garcia. The only way he’ll be on the field is if he’s head & shoulders better than Russell. If he proves to be better than JR and claims the starting job you should be mad at Russell, not Garcia …
May 15th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
“I’m not a beautiful strawberry or banana. I’m an onion. But you know what? For a lot of people, you’ve got to have that onion to make a hamburger right.”
– Lorenzo Neal
It wont matter much who’s behind centre. I’ts all about running for us. This guy might be the best signing we’ve made.
May 15th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Oak,
Bro, I hate baseball but I do get your point. lol
I disagree with you, and I think his Defense added pressure on the Offense. He is with the Browns now, and he has a chance to do what be likes 3-4 D. Let’s see what he does.
I never liked his D, we used to talk about that. Do you remember??
May 15th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Neal is not a lock, his health is still an issue.
May 15th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Haven’t heard Raider O. Whats the story?
May 15th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
909, what up?
Hate these articles on “Will the old QB beat out the rookie QB”….
C’mon, take a fresh angle…Yawn
May 15th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Oak,
By the way, what do I know!! I liked the Hall trade!!!
May 15th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
hey what can ya do?
May 15th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Nothing Major, I read an article that said he MAY HAVE health issues. I can’t remember where I read it, I’m sorry.
May 15th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Oak,
lol
You know!!
May 15th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Oak,
I remember telling you that after we got Hall, that we had a better chance of adding a few more blitzes. Also, I thought since we can play man, TH and Kirk will do better!!
May 15th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
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May 15th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
What’s up with these posts, I don’t get it!!
WT! post # 26!!!
May 15th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
What I don’t get is why didn’t Jeff go up to Al’s golf cart at minicamp and say hi, thank you, and shake his hand?
May 15th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
I was staring intently at this [...] Read more. [...]
I thought I shoulda been seeing something, but then again…I been smoking.
May 15th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Ryan \ Posted a question as to why didn’t Jeff talk to Al Davis in # 28.
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May 15th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
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May 15th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Lowdown…
Hanging in there, How ya doin?
Another case of Jerry going over to the neighbors house and stealing the freshly baked pie off the window sill, then taking that pie and throwing it against the wall.
May 15th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Jeff Garcia has had his time. He’s had 4 teams give him the opportunity to be the unquestioned starter. And those 4 teams (San Fran, Cleveland, Detroit, Tampa) all let him go without delay. Philly brought him in as a pure backup. And that’s what Garcia is…a pure backup QB. He can get in their for a few games and play well in a pinch…but when teams game plan him he’s ineffective.
Hell, Russell and the Raiders ended his career in Tampa. Garcia is here to be a backup and provide some support to Russell. There is no way that a team that drafted Darius Heyward-Bey with the SEVENTH pick overall, passing over tons of talent, is going to have Jeff Garcia short arm deep throws to DHB all game.
This is Russell’s job and he will be successfull.
May 15th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
I’ve watched Neal since back in his Fresno State days and wished we could have had him ten years ago. I hope he has something left in the tank. His former Fresno St. coach, Jim Sweeney, has a story he like to recount about a Freedom Bowl gang in witch Lo Neal and Fresno St. took apart USC. Early in the game the ball was handed off to Neal who took it into the center of the line. There was a bunch of collisions as the USC defensive players plowed into Neal, and then the SC players stood there crowing, “Welcome to the Pack 10, thats the way we hit in the Pack 10.” About that time the stadium anouncer said, “Second and two.”
May 15th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
SnB,
Browns, I didn’t know be played for the browns. You also forgot about the Eagles!!
May 15th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
SnB Defense
A good point. I dont want Russell to think that he’s untouchable. It’s important he at least considers the possibility that he’s not ’sacred’. There’s a lot of speculation regarding his work ethic, preparation etc. It may be just that, speculation, but it wont do any harm for him to see how a seasoned pro goes to work. So far JR hasn’t seen much in terms of a role model QB.
May 15th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
SnB,
My bad, you said Philly.
May 15th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Another thing…I’ve noticed how JLH and Schilens both commented on spending most of the offseason working with the QBs on route running and just talking.
All that B.S about Russell not working this offseason is just that…b.s…
Also, the Raiders are implementing a new offense this year. Give Russell and the offense the mini-camp/training camp to sort out the offense before casting judgement.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Not judging. My point is I want the Raiders to continue to bring JR along. He’s the starter and rightly so. But if he thinks there’s a chance he’ll lose the starter role then he’s going to have to exhibit the traits, charisma, work ethic of the starter in order to keep it. It’s his job to lose in the future if he doesn’t develop. He was annointed the the Raiders future QB, no question. But then so was Marinovich…
May 15th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Raider O,
Let’s also look at Garcia for what he is. He is a WCO QB, first and foremost. What kind of offense are the Raiders running? A vertical attack with an emphasis on taking medium to deep shots. Only way Garcia plays is if Russell just does a tank job or gets hurt. I don’t see the tank job coming as long as Russell builds on his last 6 games last year….and if there is injury…then a veteran presence is what you want to see.
Quite honestly, this new offense is going to fit Russell much better. If you look at Russell’s better throws last year…quite a few of them were those medium to deep strikes. Passes off playaction etc…Take a look at Russell’s clips from LSU and you see more downfield throws.
A healthy McFadden and Bush will also open up the offense.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Last 2 games of the last season you could really see Russell’s confidence growing. Personally I think he had aquired some faith in his line to block for him. A lot of the credit goes to the line for those wins, and likewise a lot of the credit goes to the coaches for implementing a game plan that suited JR’s talents.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Good. Garcia’s there to light a fire under Russell. Show him what it takes to get to compete at that level not “Russell has nothing to worry about from me.”
May 15th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
SnB,
Post# 40,
I agree, and I can’t wait for this season to start.
Like you said, JLH and Chaz have been working with JR, I love it!!
May 15th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
I hope McFadden makes more plays split out wide like he did against the Texans.
We might have some decent receivers in 09′ especially compared to last year.
Lets hope the protections there…can’t get much worse than Harris last year and that my friends, is no exaggeration at all
May 15th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
what we got from Russell last year wasn’t good enough. I don’t care what he does in the offseason. If he plays in 2009 like he did in 2008 he should expect to be replaced. blame it on whatever you want. coaching turnover, players around him. it doesn’t matter
last year he had terrible pocket awareness, accuracy, footwork and timing.
Al Davis wants to win now. If we don’t win it could be Tom Cable’s job. I’d rather sit Russell on the bench for a year and win some games than finish with 11+ losses with a QB who still isn’t ready for the bigs and start the coaching search over again
for every 1 game you give me where Russell played average last year, I’ll give you 4 games where he played atrocious.
the kid needs to step it up big time. period. no excuses
May 15th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
First play of the year on MNF run or pass?
May 15th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Can someone let me know cause i don’t recall. but during the mini camp did anyone say that JRuss looked fat or out of shape?
May 15th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
JR has a lot of weapons this year.
Chaz, DHB, and Murphy on the outside.
JLH, Murphy, and DMC in the Slot.
DMC, And Bush can both catch as RBs.
Miller can catch everything as a TE.
I ask Again, but does he have a good Oline to protect him.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
# SnB Defense Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Raider O,
Let’s also look at Garcia for what he is. He is a WCO QB, first and foremost. What kind of offense are the Raiders running? A vertical attack with an emphasis on taking medium to deep shots. Only way Garcia plays is if Russell just does a tank job or gets hurt. I don’t see the tank job coming as long as Russell builds on his last 6 games last year….and if there is injury…then a veteran presence is what you want to see.
Quite honestly, this new offense is going to fit Russell much better. If you look at Russell’s better throws last year…quite a few of them were those medium to deep strikes. Passes off playaction etc…Take a look at Russell’s clips from LSU and you see more downfield throws.
A healthy McFadden and Bush will also open up the offense.
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This is exactly right. Plus, a better offense is going to help the defense. The issue with Russell is the same issue I had with Chaz Shilens early in the season. I was watching him before the season started, and I felt there is no way this guy is an NFL caliber player. But Chaz was just tentative. To me he looked slow and indecisive. Once he felt comfortable and was not thinking as much out there, he let his athletic abilities take over. Same thing with Russell. Once he feels real comfortable with the players around him, and he can let his athletic abilities take over, like he did at LSU, both he and us will be fine.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Run with Fargas or DMC.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Ghost,
Who do you mean by anyone, does Norco count?!!! lol
May 15th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
r8rpaver Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
First play of the year on MNF run or pass?
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Play-action, deep out to Chaz for 16 yards.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
I would like to see PA pass. First look is DHB in a Go Route, 2nd Chaz on a dig or In route, and 3rd look is Miller on a slant.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
If it’s like every other year since Gannon…
1st – 10 – Run Left
2nd – 8 – Run Right
3rd – 7 – Short pass to Miller for 6 yards
Punt
or
1st – 10 – Run Left
2nd – 9 – Run Right
3rd – 1 – False start or Illegal Formation
3rd – 6 – Short pass to Miller for 5 yards
Punt
May 15th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Vegas,
PA, I love it.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
*since Gannon left…
May 15th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Or have Miller run a post route!!
Like I said, we have a lot of weapons on offense.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Cable will want to roll the dice and fire up the crowd.
First play, will be a fly route to Yavonne.
Under thrown and easily intercepted.
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Just kidding, we ALL know it will be a run.
Fargas, behind Gallery for 1 1/2.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Ryan,
I didn’t know Gannon had his own team, how long have you been a fan of the Gannons?!?
May 15th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
r8rpaver Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
First play of the year on MNF run or pass?
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Play action looks deep to DHB covered saftey over top..
looks shallow 15 yrds Schielens covered by merioidmen….
dump off to Dmac for a 76 yrd TD rec!!!!!!
GO RAIDUUUUHS!!!!!!!!!
Double R,
Whats up bro didnt know you were so critical of Jruss….He’ll be fine right…I know we owned the bucs on the ground….and beat a few fringe teams….but come on man he looked better with Marioo Henderson on the field…Schielens bush and Co.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Ryan…
You nailed it, at #54.
I was thinking the same, just to lazy to type it out..lol.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Rockstar,
Russell has to step up just like any other player in the league has to step up. What I get irritated about when it comes to critiques on Russell is a couple of things:
1. Coaching turnover…players around him…that stuff DOES matter. Show me another young QB, hell even a vet, that was successfull with the b.s that surrounded Russell in 2008. You expecting a pro-bowl season?
2. His rookie year was a wash. Missing training camp DOES matter. There is no practice time during the season to learn the offense etc…and for those saying Russell shoudn’t have held out…why??? that was the going rate for top draft picks. If you say you would take less money out of some bizarre principle…I say you haven’t been presented with that opportunity.
3. Russell has issues in 2008. Especially early on. But if you break those games down…he was inconsistent…played poorly against K.C..well against S.D…poorly against New Orleans…well against the Jets….and so on…That’s what young QBs do…they play inconsistently until they get their bearings
4. His first year starter numbers are as good or better than a lot of great QBs in their first year as a starter…
All that aside, Russell has to get better this year. I say he should be in the top half of the league in QB ratings this year. Maybe around where Eli Manning or Tony Romo performed last year.
But if you all think he’s going to be a top 5 QB (Manning, Brady, Warner type) next year….you’re not being realistic or fair.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Chaz covered by a LB?LMFAO
May 15th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
909/ryan…….
hmmmmm…..
why you guys drinkin hateraide???
We have some extra Kool-aid if you need…….
May 15th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
I know Lefty,
it’s just merriodmens zone Jruss wnt make the pass with proper coaching he should dump the ball off if there is a LB waiting to break on the ball playing a mid zone…..NO WAY IN HECK HE COVERS the SHIL but Jruss makes the correct decsion…TD RAIDUUUHS!!!!!
May 15th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Maybe not Manning, but he can be better than :
Orton
Matt C
K Collins
T Jackson
Anderson/ Quinn
Trent Edwards
Jets QB
Jags QB
Matt Ryan
Flaco
Alex Smith/ S hill
TB’s QB
Jason C
May 15th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
It’s not hateraide.
I love the Raiders. I’m currenty making a room in my garage dedicated to Raiders’ memorablia. It’s just the unfortunate truth. Every game I have recorded starts the same way. It bugs me, but I’m sure it is done to get a feel for the defense. I just wish they would change it up for the first drive every now and then and feel out the defense on the next drive.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
TW,
#65,
LMFAO
May 15th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Not to mention I would have put in my order for a Heyward-Bey jersey already, except I can’t get myself to by a #12 jersey unless it has STABLER on the back.
I guess I wait for the #34 Mitchell jersey.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
I would rather have JR than any of the QBs in post #67.
Yes, Flaco and Ryan included.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Ryan,with any luck someone will talk to DHB and he’ll get a different #-at least i hope he does.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
DMC 20
JR 2
DHB 12
What’s up with all these 2s?!
May 15th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Oaklifer…
Never a hater, just going by a (beer) gut feeling.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Russell has to get better this year. I say he should be in the top half of the league in QB ratings this year.
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S&B: Agreed. Let’s just say we want him to be the 15th best rated QB in the league regarding yards, TD’s and QB Rating. That equals 3200 passing yards, 18 TD’s and a QB Rating of 86.5 …
Last year Russell had 2400 yards, 13 TD’s and a QB Rating of 77.
I think that’s fair. Do you think that’s an attainable goal?
800 more passing yards, 5 more TD’s and a QB Rating 10 points higher …
May 15th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
I like 10 & 11 on WRs.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
RaiderRockstar,
I think 3,000 yds, 18tds, mid to upper 80’s QB rating and less than 10 Ints would be appropriate progress given everything the last 2 yrs.
Probably not good enough to win a Super Bowl…but good enough to get compete for a playoff birth in week 16/17
That would be fair….But a Pro-Bowl…top 5 QB would be exceeding expecations in my opinion.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
JR will go to the PB in 2011.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
800 yards is only 50 yards per game.
I think a blocking TE to free up Miller, a healthy McFadden and a WR corps featuring DHB, Murphy & Holland instead of Curry, Lelie & Carter should net at least 50 more passing yards per game. Not to mention Mario Henderson instead of Kwame Harris!
If Russell can’t reach 3200 passing yards, 18 TD’s and a QB Rating of 86.5 … he might be the worst QB in our division and we’d have zero chance to compete for the AFC West crown
May 15th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
I don’t think he will ever be a top 5 QB, he depends a lot on his arm like Favre, But he doesn’t throw as many INTs. He had 13 TDs and 8 picks last year, finished the season around 55% cmp, last 5 games he was over 85 in QB rating, and he had 3 games where he was over 105. Not bad for a 1st year starter. Manning didn’t do ant better, he had 20+ ints.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Any better, sorry.
JR to the PB in 2011.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Hey Raider saw post on last post lol =)
Stabler sat on the bench for 4 years B4 starting.In Jmacs defence,maybe he’s not ready as this is the big-leauges.Maybe Garcia would be better 4 us right now and let Jmac get his stuff together
May 15th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Raider “O” that is =)
May 15th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
[...] Garcia recently told Chris Myers in a radio interview that he believes he gives the Raiders the best chance of winning. Garcia remained diplomatic, but there was a subtle shift in his stance during the radio interview [...]
May 15th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
“Saw post on last post”
Is it me, or is it you!!!
One of us had too much to smoke!!! lol
May 15th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
4eva,
My guess is we both had too much to smoke. lol
I got some Cush, what do you have?
May 15th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Rockstar,
Just keep in mind that if Tom Cable doesn’t run Fargas too much…there might be a couple of games on the schedule where DMAC and Bush dominate on the gound. I see Denver and K.C getting run right out of the house.
That could mean a few games where the Raiders don’t throw the ball more than 15 to 20x a game.
Nevertheless, the passing game has to be a strength this year.
Also, let’s not forget about Kelly/Warren/Sands and their responsibility in all this. The run defense has to improve as well…otherwise opponents will just pound the rock and keep our offense off the field.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Where Saint McGiver? he was funny.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Where is…
May 15th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Do the Cavs play today?
May 15th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
In a lot of ways…Jeff Garcia reminds me of Josh McCown. Anyway I have a question.
If Garcia is the man like some on here think….why wouldn’t a Minnesota Vikings or 49ers not throw the bank at this guy and have him start for their teams?
Also, if Garcia couldn’t keep his job in Detroit, Cleveland, San Fran or Tampa….what makes you think he’s the answer for Oakland. The guy is a serviceable backup…and that’s all he is.
Push JaMarcus Russell in camp and be ready in case of injury is his role.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
you guys all have a great weekend!
May 15th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Take care RR.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Anything new?
May 15th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASmXezdIxTA
Still funny as HELL!!!
May 15th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Hellllo, is there anyone out there?????
May 15th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
I’m sorry I missed RaiderRockStar. I really disagree with his assertion that Russell has terrible pocket presence. Does Russell remind anybody here of Andrew Walter, really?
May 15th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
If all 5 qb`s were making equal money,..Garcia would start, Gradkowski 2nd,…Walter 3rd,…Russell cut.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Dakota
Looks like you’re a jinx to the Raiders AND Lakers!
May 15th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
No kool, doesnt remind me of him at all,..I never seen Walter in a full length white mink coat.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Boob
You’re awfully judgmental for a junkie, no?
May 15th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Russell doesn’t have bad pocket presence, but he is too careless with the ball some times in the pocket. He fumbled a few too many times for my liking.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
I think that, because of 1) an O-line that could run-block but not pass protect, 2) because of injuries to skill players (Walker, Fargas, DMac, Bush, Shilens, Lelie, Curry, etc.), 3) coaching instability (no explanation needed) and 4)a need to simplify things for a young, learning QB who was set back by many factors in the process…..the offense HAD to be “run first”. That’s why we got, “run, run, run, punt” or “run, run, false start, pass, punt”, if you will!
This season my hope is for 1) an O-line that can run-block or pass block with a modicum of effectiveness, 2) healthier (and more experienced) skill players, 3) coaching stability with the desire to teach (with a focus on sound fundamentals) and 4) anticipated continuation of progress from JR. We should get, “run, run, first down” then “run, short pass, first down”. “Uh-oh”, says the opposing DC…these guys are better than last year. Better sneak a safety into the box.” Next series goes, “run, short pass, DHB hit in stride by JR…..NO ONE CAN CATCH HIM! TOUCHDOOOOOOWWWWNNNNN RRRRRAIIIIDEEEEERRRRRSSSS!!!!!!
PASS THE KOOLADE, BABY! (Or just give me the traditional shot of brandy required upon every Raiders score….including extra points!
THE SEASON TIX ARE PAID FOR! I WILL BE THERE – JUST LIKE AAAALLLLWWWWAAAAYYYYSSS!
goosebumps just thinkin’ ’bout it……….
May 15th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
200 yds a game 1td as well sneak a couple, sure seems russel should be able to do that, i do like he isn’t int prown like alot of big arm qb’s, when he throws a deep ball incompletion nobody is near it, wonder if some of those ground balls thrown in camp weren’t avoid the sack type things, i cant imagine a many pro qb’s not being able to make a pass to a rb in the flat, an incompletion without contact to a rb, is better than a incompletion where your rb gets assholed, or int
May 15th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
You calling me a junkie is perfectly ok with me,…been called worse…however you know Im right on about Russell, and more importantly, so do the Raiders….I never once bought in that Garcia was brought in here to mentor, what a joke, he is the new starter…and thank God because Russell sucks.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
And yes, in 2002, I was at the game when Garcia SINGLEHANDEDLY beat the Raiders.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Norco Bob Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
No kool, doesnt remind me of him at all,..I never seen Walter in a full length white mink coat.
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I lol’d and would continue to lol if I had seen it
May 15th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Re: Post #105.
Norco……that was 2002. It is now 7 years later. 2009. Jeff Garcia (though I have enjoyed watching his intensity of play in the past) doesn’t have the skill-set of that time.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
And Russell has no skill set period.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
The Ides of May asks, “Et tu Garcia?”
And further into the no man’s land of mustard gas journalism we go.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Dakota Post 94,
LOL!!!!! That was hilarous! “Don’t bother we with those details…our defense will be able to compensate”
LOL
May 15th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Vegas,
the kid has played one NFL season and he progressed during that one. what more can one ask of a young man?
good thing we have norco around to tell us of the immense lack of talent JRuss has on a minute-by-minute basis or things in here might get redundant.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Norco,
When you have no reasonable, well-thought-out response, it would be better to not respond than to constantly deviate from logical discussion (My God, am I Spock!?) by resording to “bile”, profanity, or childish generalities.
WHAT is it that makes you feel Russell has no skill set when he had demonstrated….as outlined by so many posters yesterday and today….that he is growing and has performed BETTER than most of the very excellent QB’s of today when they were in their first and second years?
May 15th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Guys…Jeff Garcia is a reliable backup…that’s all.
He couldn’t run the Raider offense anyway. Otherwise they would have drafted Crabtree.
Putting any hope in Garcia is short sighted and stupid. Its going back to that old veteran retread strategy that has put the Raiders on its knees the last 20 years.
If Garcia had anything tangible left…the Bucs wouldn’t have let him go. If Garcia had anything left..the Vikings would have signed him in a heartbeat instead of trying to coax Favre back to play…
Garcia is a stopgap at best. JaMarcus Russell provides this Raider team the best chance to win. He has a big arm…doesn’t throw interceptions…has the confidence of his teammates…and showed progression in his first year as a starter.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80bfbbd6/Chaz-Schilens-Highlight-WK-08-vs-Ravens-2008
May 15th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Oh I see, lol,..it was outlined by posters in here yesterday and today that Russell is going to be greay?…lol…oh man, I feel so much better now!!!…God I was worrying about nothing!,..I should have read the posters in here yesterday and today to get strait,..hey thanks bud! lmao
May 15th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Hey thanks snb defense,..for another clip of a game we got slaughtered in. wonderful.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
The Cowboys built a dynasty in the 90’s by letting their young QB develop and work through his issues.
After 16 starts…some of which were very good…to give up on a kid at this stage would be the height of incompetence.
Anyone suggesting as such doesn’t know football
May 15th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
SnB,
well said in 113.
Retreadism is a past doctrine which needs not be revisited. Personally I would rather suffer/enjoy the bumps, gaffs and successes of the new kids on the Raider block than to see the same old crap of plugging in washed up vets.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
No, Norco, no.
You still don’t get it. Your argument is, again, incongruous. I did NOT say, nor did ANY of the posters who listed the first and second year stats of the great QB’s of today say, that “Russell is going to be great” Resort to “LOL” and “LMAO” all you like. You always do that when someone disagrees with you and you are unable to support your assertions. Or you just get downright nasty….and later blame it on the painkillers. Just remember we are all Raiders fans and nobody here hates you……although I sometimes have seen it as obvious that some get tired of YOUR hatred and hate the way you act.
I was simply trying to understand your contempt for J.Russell. I mentioned the fact that you have been shown he has been at least as good, mostly better, than some of the best QB’s of our time IN THEIR FIRST TWO YEARS. Why won’t you give the kid (I say that respectfully, ’cause I am 62!) a chance? He has, in his first two years, PROVEN to be as good as those greats in their first two years…. It logically follows that he does have a skill set and would therefore have every probablity of similar growth. No?
May 15th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Contempt for Russell?…ya I hate how he never wanted to be a Raider,…hate how he arrives to games ina white Rolls and full length mink coat,…has a 65 million dolalr contract for doing what?…winning a sugar bowl?…bfd,…Im all for football players getting paid,…but Russell did nothing to deserve it,…doesnt care about winning,…does the absolute minimum, only what hes required to do…believeme or not, I know people in ALameda,..and they all are very disappointed in the way hes carrying himself,…has no fire, no passion to win, in my personal opinion I think hes stupid,…typical southern jock that wasnt required to attend class,…nobody at LSU does, or USC for that matter,…Russell is gone after 2009, book that.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
SinceFrankYouell,
nicely and diplomatically assessed above.
some years back at a fundraiser for Assassin my brother and I were chatting with Howie Williams. I asked him how it was to confront the likes of Cookie Gilchrist and Jim Nance. He was pleased that those days were remembered.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
You call them pain killers, I dont.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Lonetree, why dont you and youell get a room.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
here is troy aikman career stats.i don`t remember anybody saying troy was a bust after his second year.
2000 Dallas Cowboys 11 11 156 262 59.5 1,632 6.2 7 14 13 91 64.3 10 13 1.3 0 2 2
1999 Dallas Cowboys 14 14 263 442 59.5 2,964 6.7 17 12 19 130 81.1 21 10 0.5 1 8 2
1998 Dallas Cowboys 11 11 187 315 59.4 2,330 7.4 12 5 9 58 88.5 22 69 3.1 2 3 1
1997 Dallas Cowboys 16 16 292 518 56.4 3,283 6.3 19 12 33 269 78.0 25 79 3.2 0 6 4
1996 Dallas Cowboys 15 15 296 465 63.7 3,126 6.7 12 13 18 120 80.1 35 42 1.2 1 6 6
1995 Dallas Cowboys 16 16 280 432 64.8 3,304 7.6 16 7 14 89 93.6 21 32 1.5 1 5 2
1994 Dallas Cowboys 14 14 233 361 64.5 2,676 7.4 13 12 14 59 84.9 30 62 2.1 1 2 2
1993 Dallas Cowboys 14 14 271 392 69.1 3,100 7.9 15 6 26 153 99.0 32 125 3.9 0 7 3
1992 Dallas Cowboys 16 16 302 473 63.8 3,445 7.3 23 14 23 112 89.5 37 105 2.8 1 4 0
1991 Dallas Cowboys 12 12 237 363 65.3 2,754 7.6 11 10 32 224 86.7 16 5 0.3 1 4 0
1990 Dallas Cowboys 15 — 226 399 56.6 2,579 6.5 11 18 39 288 66.6 40 172 4.3 1 — –
1989 Dallas Cowboys 11 — 155 293 52.9 1,749 6.0 9 18 19 155 55.7 38 302 7.9 0 — –
TOTAL 2,898 4,715 61.5 32,942 7.0 165 141 259 1,748 81.6 327 1,016 3.1 9 47 22
May 15th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Here’s some lowlife junkie passing judgment on Southern Jocks. Ohh boy.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Ken Stabler not included.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
norco,
don’t you ever feel somewhat silly by what you declare as unmitigated truth? oh well, hope you’ll learn to enjoy what it is that you cannot forsee.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
for those of you who can`t tell that`s 9 td`s 18 int`sin year 1.11 td`s 18 int`s in year 2.11 td`s 10 int`s in year 3.i think we got some double standardsngoing on here.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Narco Boob
Wassa matter, you think you’re entitled to a 62 million dollar contract too?
May 15th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
No kool I dont….alot in the nfl deserve that contract, Russell surely doesnt and I bet every nfl player would agree.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
BlackDeath29,
here. I’ll say it, “Troy Aikman was a BUST after two years!!!!”
Shortsightedness plays well to the limited attention span.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
steve young
Season Team Passing Rushing Fumbles
G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost
1999 San Francisco 49ers 3 3 45 84 53.6 446 5.3 3 4 8 63 60.9 11 57 5.2 0 2 1
1998 San Francisco 49ers 15 15 322 517 62.3 4,170 8.1 36 12 48 234 101.1 70 454 6.5 6 9 6
1997 San Francisco 49ers 15 15 241 356 67.7 3,029 8.5 19 6 35 220 104.7 50 199 4.0 3 4 0
1996 San Francisco 49ers 12 12 214 316 67.7 2,410 7.6 14 6 34 160 97.2 52 310 6.0 4 3 2
1995 San Francisco 49ers 11 11 299 447 66.9 3,200 7.2 20 11 25 115 92.3 50 250 5.0 3 3 3
1994 San Francisco 49ers 16 16 324 461 70.3 3,969 8.6 35 10 31 163 112.8 58 293 5.1 7 4 3
1993 San Francisco 49ers 16 16 314 462 68.0 4,023 8.7 29 16 31 160 101.5 69 407 5.9 2 8 5
1992 San Francisco 49ers 16 16 268 402 66.7 3,465 8.6 25 7 29 152 107.0 76 537 7.1 4 9 3
1991 San Francisco 49ers 11 10 180 279 64.5 2,517 9.0 17 8 13 79 101.8 66 415 6.3 4 3 0
1990 San Francisco 49ers 6 — 38 62 61.3 427 6.9 2 0 8 41 92.6 15 159 10.6 0 — –
1989 San Francisco 49ers 10 — 64 92 69.6 1,001 10.9 8 3 12 84 120.8 38 126 3.3 2 — –
1988 San Francisco 49ers 11 — 54 101 53.5 680 6.7 3 3 13 75 72.2 27 184 6.8 1 — –
1987 San Francisco 49ers 8 — 37 69 53.6 570 8.3 10 0 3 25 120.8 26 190 7.3 1 — –
1986 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 14 — 195 363 53.7 2,282 6.3 8 13 47 326 65.5 74 425 5.7 5 — –
1985 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 5 — 72 138 52.2 935 6.8 3 8 21 158 56.9 40 233 5.8 1 — –
TOTAL 2,667 4,149 64.3 33,124 8.0 232 107 358 2,055 96.8 722 4,239 5.9 43 45 23
May 15th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
A Pill-poppin fool, talking about someone else’s work etic. Oooooh boy.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Norco,
Under normal circumstances..how many years would you give a rookie QB to develop?
May 15th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Off to the Giants game,…by the way for sunday night baseball, we will be in mcCovey cove.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
that`s 3 td`s 8 int`s year 1.8 td`s 13 int`s year 2.was not even 60 percent passing his first 4 years.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
snb,…that bum should have never been drafted in the first place,..hes out of the nfl in 2 years.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
norco,
so why don’t you petition the league to institue a rookie salary cap (which is the sensible thing)? Then there’s no harm no foul with your exercised sensibilities.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Afternoon Nation,
Kell,BD29,Lonetree,Bob,Yuellfield,SnB and all.
I’m excited about the prospects of the Offense.
Personally, I think Jamarcus could be a Pro Bowler in 2-3 years.
I’m excited to see how Marshall utilizes what he has on the defensive side of the ball.
Collectivley, We as fans, have more to look foward too than we’ve had in years.
Play the young Guys. Let them develope. No quick fixes.
I see a bright future on the horizon.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
How hilarious that some in here compare russell to aikman,…hilarious….a better comparison in russell to ryan leaf.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Norco Bob Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
snb,…that bum should have never been drafted in the first place,..hes out of the nfl in 2 years.
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OK…got my answer…you never liked him to start so it really doesn’t matter what he does.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
A Pill-poppin, alcoholic, degenerate, lecturing about work habits. Only in America.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
“Steve Young was a BUST after two seasons!!!!”
May 15th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
A Pill-poppin fool, talking about someone else’s work etic. Oooooh boy.
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Funny how that works.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
There will be a salary cap someday,…then bums like Russell wont be able to rape the nfl anymore.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Ok Boob
You’ve got your attention, now slither back under your rock, take the bud with ya.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Im still not sold that just removing Rob Ryan will ultimately help our defense. Sure a great deal was bad play calling and whatnot, but the rest falls on the same guys we had last season that will still be out there come game day. We are however headed in the right direction, but we need a lot more help IMO. If anything, I am always reminded of Asomugha’s interview.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/09000d5d80d0d10a/Asomugha-We-re-not-even-close
May 15th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
RaiderLen,
good afternoon. Couldn’t agree more. Let the young ‘uns go for it.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Norco Bob ,
that`s the problem norco after too years your ready to compare russell to ryan leaf.but not other qb`s.
carson palmer 18 int`s his first full year as a starter.did not play his rookie year.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Hard to fathom why a norco or 4eva also are incensed about our young QB. Must be personal.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Bye, bye, Boob.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Norco Bob Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
There will be a salary cap someday,…then bums like Russell wont be able to rape the nfl anymore.
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Norco, any player drafted in the top 10 is going to get big money. Holding animosity towards someone else’s abilty to earn a bunch of money is petty and un-American.
The basis of our society is maximizing your net-worth in a legal and fair way. No one forces these owners to pay those players and each player has a right to maximize what they can get.
I am sure you do that in your job. Take as much money as the boss/owner is willing to pay you. If you don’t like it…then you go to your next best alternative…and your boss/owner/customer would do the same.
That’s a free market system my man!
May 15th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
M Lonetree Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
RaiderLen,
good afternoon. Couldn’t agree more. Let the young ‘uns go for it.
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Hey Lonetree,
Lots of young talent to work with.
We still have warts, but I can live with that if I can reasonably expect that they will be removed in an orderly fashion.
I’m willing to be patient, if I can see growth.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Peyton is on record as saying he hopes Stafford will eclipse Peyton’s rookie INT mark of 28. Humorous.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
here you go norco bob ryan leaf.
Career Stats more
Season Team Passing Rushing Fumbles
G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost
2001 Dallas Cowboys 4 3 45 88 51.1 494 5.6 1 3 12 82 57.7 4 -7 -1.8 0 4 2
2000 San Diego Chargers 11 9 161 322 50.0 1,883 5.8 11 18 31 155 56.2 28 54 1.9 0 12 6
1999 San Diego Chargers 0 0 — – — – — – — – — 0.0 — – — – — –
1998 San Diego Chargers 10 9 111 245 45.3 1,289 5.3 2 15 22 140 39.0 27 80 3.0 0 8 4
TOTAL 317 655 48.4 3,666 5.6 14 36 65 377 50.0 59 127 2.2 0 24 12
May 15th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
RaiderLen,
two biggest issues I see are O-line competence and the Marshall Plan elevating the D. JRuss, DMc, JLH, DHB, Chaz, Miller, MBush – that talent is not something I am worried about as they develop.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
drew brees
Season Team Passing Rushing Fumbles
G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost
2008 New Orleans Saints 16 16 413 635 65.0 5,069 8.0 34 17 13 92 96.2 22 -1 0.0 0 6 1
2007 New Orleans Saints 16 16 440 652 67.5 4,423 6.8 28 18 16 109 89.4 23 52 2.3 1 9 4
2006 New Orleans Saints 16 16 356 554 64.3 4,418 8.0 26 11 18 105 96.2 42 32 0.8 0 8 3
2005 San Diego Chargers 16 16 323 500 64.6 3,576 7.2 24 15 27 223 89.2 21 49 2.3 1 8 5
2004 San Diego Chargers 15 15 262 400 65.5 3,159 7.9 27 7 18 131 104.8 53 85 1.6 2 7 2
2003 San Diego Chargers 11 11 205 356 57.6 2,108 5.9 11 15 21 178 67.5 21 84 4.0 0 5 3
2002 San Diego Chargers 16 16 320 526 60.8 3,284 6.2 17 16 24 180 76.9 38 130 3.4 1 2 0
2001 San Diego Chargers 1 0 15 27 55.6 221 8.2 1 0 2 12 94.8 2 18 9.0 0 2 0
TOTAL 2,334 3,650 63.9 26,258 7.2 168 99 139 1,030 89.4 222 449 2.0 5 47 18
May 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
drew brees took till his 4th year to have a better td to int ratio.russell all ready has one.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Blackdeath29,
What it comes down to is that Russell’s style does not fit what the prototype QB is today. Most guys like these small arm QBs that love the television and are media telegenic. If Russell was constantly in commercials, talkative and all that stuff…they would love it. But he basically stays out of the media, doesn’t do interviews…so people jump on him.
Russell has the demeanor of a pro. Keeps quiet and manages his business. I take more stock in what Schilens, Higgins and Henderson have said about him over some media guy who is upset that the Raiders are not a very media friendly team or has an axe to grind with Al Davis.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
M Lonetree Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
RaiderLen,
two biggest issues I see are O-line competence and the Marshall Plan elevating the D. JRuss, DMc, JLH, DHB, Chaz, Miller, MBush – that talent is not something I am worried about as they develop.
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Lonetree,
I see it the same way.
I’m anxious to see how Satelle, Henderson, Barnes, and Pears perform in pre season.
I think Gallery could be Pro Bowl material if He repeats/improves last seasons performance.
I really have can’t imagine the D performing worse.
No place to go but up imo.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
1. Russell never said he didn’t want to be a Raider. He was simply forced by Mr. Davis to hold out for what he (and his agent) felt was fair payment for a #1 pick at that time. Mr. Davis didn’t want to pay the guaranteed money that the first couple picks of the draft were getting, saying, “I….repeat I, will not do that!”. Wanting to be treated justly doesn’t make the young man a bad person or a bad Raider.
2. I, too, am a bit jealous of his Rolls and full length mink coat. He can now afford them and they are his thing. I am a blue work shirt and blue jeans guy……buuuuuttttt gimme a couple mil and I might get used to the Rolls and mink!
3. Got the 65 mil for nothing more than being selected first. Apparently SOMEONE or SOME FOLKS saw value….and paid what they felt it was worth. He didn’t force anyone. Coulda traded the pick or made a different selection.
4. At one time I shared your concern about his desire and dedication. Hell I’d give a day of my life just to do the “Rudi” thing…..suit up in RAIDER gear, go over the middle, and and get crushed by Mike Mitchell! But perhaps his personality is just not that expressive. He has been showing interest…I won’t call your contacts untruthful….and maybe DHB and Shilens ARE quoting the company line. But everything I have seen and heard recently from those who would normally be “in the know” tells me he has been working with the team, putting forth effort, and growing at an acceptable rate.
5. You have nothing to base “no fire, no passion to win” upon except “the way he’s carrying himself”. If he “wasn’t required to attend class”, perhaps his book-intelligence is lacking, but to call him generally “stupid” is unfair….his performance thus far has PROVEN he’s at least as football-intelligent as some of the best of modern day QB’s in THEIR early years. Forrest’s mama was, indeed, correct. “Stupid is as stupid does.”. So far, “Stupid” is doing quite well, comparatively speaking.
6. Does it all come back to a car and a coat for you? So what if he dresses differently and more lavishly that you and me? So what if he has a big, fancy Rolls? Heck, in his shoes, I would too….only they would be a showroom ‘67 GTO and a gen-ooo-wine black leather jacket with the collar turned up. So I am an old-f*rt country-boy and he is a young black kid. We’d both be cool in our own unique ways.
7. So….you’d probably hate me too.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
BTW, I think the NFL Network is a rip-off…..They have a total of 40 minutes of new content each day. Half that content is spent on Brett Favre or some trivial stuff. The rest of the time is spent with top 10 countdowns, replays of football games from years ago etc…etc…
Why not up the content to 4 hours a day…and spend time analyzing each teams offseason. Or doing a slew of interviews with players and coaches…or simulcasting the Sirius NFL Radio programs.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
SnB,
perhaps Jamarcus comes from a family that taught him to wear humbleness as a virtue. That does not mean lack of passion, but in this day and age of BSPN hype wherein self-serving aggrandizement and boasting is highlight reel crap…
May 15th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
SnB Defense Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Blackdeath29,
What it comes down to is that Russell’s style does not fit what the prototype QB is today. Most guys like these small arm QBs that love the television and are media telegenic. If Russell was constantly in commercials, talkative and all that stuff…they would love it. But he basically stays out of the media, doesn’t do interviews…so people jump on him.
Russell has the demeanor of a pro. Keeps quiet and manages his business. I take more stock in what Schilens, Higgins and Henderson have said about him over some media guy who is upset that the Raiders are not a very media friendly team or has an axe to grind with Al Davis.
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SnB,
You’re damn right.
Respect of your teammates trumps everything.
It comes down to trust. Teammates follow those they trust.
I think some hold memories of Gannon as the Archetype that all Raider QB’s must follow.
To My recollection, Stabler and Plunket were not overly vocal.
Omar Bradley or George Patton?
Jamarcus is more Omar.
Not a damn thing wrong with that.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
I think the best thing the Raiders can do is have an attacking mindset on offense. They have the talent on offense to move the ball. Heck, they moved the ball last year and held late 4th QTR leads in losses to Buffalo, San Diego, Miami and Kansas City.
If DMAC was 100% in those games, I think the Raiders win all 4 of those…let alone upgrades to wide receiver with Schilens, DHB and Higgins….better usage of Michael Bush and upgrades at the LT position.
This team will be alright if the coaching staff uses the roster correctly and attacks the opponent. Play to win and not the conservative “not to lose”
May 15th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
M Lonetree Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
SnB,
perhaps Jamarcus comes from a family that taught him to wear humbleness as a virtue. That does not mean lack of passion, but in this day and age of BSPN hype wherein self-serving aggrandizement and boasting is highlight reel crap…
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Lonetree,
Yep, vocal does not mean smart, or passionate or qualified.
Sometimes it can mean just the opposite.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
One way it is most excellent that D Heyward-Bey came to Oaktown. He will be crapped on for every imperfection by the haters, and JRuss will be right there telling him to forget all about that nonsense.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
It’s hard to believe that someone who professes to have season tickets, would be so hateful of his starting QB. Don’t believe it.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
SnB Defense Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
I think the best thing the Raiders can do is have an attacking mindset on offense. They have the talent on offense to move the ball. Heck, they moved the ball last year and held late 4th QTR leads in losses to Buffalo, San Diego, Miami and Kansas City.
If DMAC was 100% in those games, I think the Raiders win all 4 of those…let alone upgrades to wide receiver with Schilens, DHB and Higgins….better usage of Michael Bush and upgrades at the LT position.
This team will be alright if the coaching staff uses the roster correctly and attacks the opponent. Play to win and not the conservative “not to lose”
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SnB,
Yessss. Cable said it Himself, Pass to score, run to win.
I think Cable has an agresive riverboat gambler personality.
I don’t mean Jano sweeping the end aggressive, but rather a guy that will attack because He believes his guys are better than theirs.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Yeah Raiderlen…I hope Cable leaves the Field Goal fakes for practice.
In all seriousnesss, if Cable manages DMAC and Bush correctly…this offense could be ridiculously effective. I don’t see how you stop those two without bringing in help. The minute they bring in help you throw the ball over their heads to DHB/Schilens or underneath to Miller or the RBs…..
Its about keep the defenses off-balance….that will win games…that, execution and playcalling. That will tell the story this year.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
And both Dmac & Bush can also throw the ball.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
It’s hard to believe that someone who professes to have season tickets, would be so hateful of his starting QB. Don’t believe it.
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Why would someone brag about going to all the games anyway. I’ve gone to quite a few games and unless you have sideline seats between the 40’s its actually a better view on T.V.
Regardless, he wants a WCO QB in here. A guy like Matt Hasselback or Donovan McNabb. Russell won’t win any fans with his demeanor or body type. He will just have to get it done on the field. It does amaze me how people ignore the good games he had last year and the progress he made. Shows they don’t really watch the games.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
SnB Defense Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Yeah Raiderlen…I hope Cable leaves the Field Goal fakes for practice.
In all seriousnesss, if Cable manages DMAC and Bush correctly…this offense could be ridiculously effective. I don’t see how you stop those two without bringing in help. The minute they bring in help you throw the ball over their heads to DHB/Schilens or underneath to Miller or the RBs…..
Its about keep the defenses off-balance….that will win games…that, execution and playcalling. That will tell the story this year.
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SnB,
Again, I agree.
I really enjoy your posts. You bring objectivity and well thought out and documented responses.
The part, of your post that stands out, is the refereence to throwing over the heads of the Defense, because they are getting their arse kicked by the run game.
Trent Dilfer mocked Cable’s statement about doing just this.
He said in today’s NFL it can’t be done.
He should know better.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
I absolutely agree with SnB. If we have the same conservative approach we had most of last year I really don’t see us winning alot of games. I think we need to make an identity for ourselves on both sides of the field. A good hard running team that can pick you apart down the field. Now, will it happen??? We have to wait and see. But like anyone who has come from the bottom up tells you, it doesn’t matter what everyone believes it only matters what we believe.
One Nation…Raider Nation!!!
May 15th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
And both Dmac & Bush can also throw the ball.
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Kell,
The possibilities are endless.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
KoolKell,
DMAC and Bush can throw and catch the ball. That’s what makes them so effective.
I think that DMAC against K.C and Bush against Tampa were not aberrations. They are capable of games like that at any time if the defenses are off-balance.
Again, its up to Cable to call the game correctly and use those two to maximum effect. Cable should be throwing to them a bunch too.
IF they do those things they will be the “surprise” of the league.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
OTA’s Tues. Not much media accessibility this time.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
The Speed and Power of the Raider Offense should stretch the field to the maximum.
With a good mix of play calls, the potential to score by several different means, is there.
If Darren McFadden is healthy for the majority of the season, I believe he could score 10 or more touchdowns.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
But yeah, it’s good to hear from the WR’s that they’ve been working with the QB’s all off-season. It’s good that JaMarcus lives here year-round.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
But yeah, it’s good to hear from the WR’s that they’ve been working with the QB’s all off-season. It’s good that JaMarcus lives here year-round.
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Sounds like a commitment on the part of Jamarcus doesn’t it?
I can not wait to see Jamarcus light it up.
He’ll have some growing pains, but He is going to be really good.
Critics be damned.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Imagine. DMc motions wide to be a flanker. DHB lines up wide on the other side. DBs and LBs spread and wary. Snap of the ball they both take off and JRuss tosses an underneath seam to Chaz from where he can run forever.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
I agree with the take on the NFL network. Someone is dropping the ball big time there. It could EASILY be so much better.
There us zero reason for team cam to not be more active. There should be a reporter assigned to every team.
And how hard is it to replay the entire previous season, instead of the same 4 or 5 games over and over and over and over and ….
They are missing a HUGE opportunity to snatch viewers.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Thanks for the latter part of this afternoon gentlemen.
Raider on.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
JHill,
Especially for a network charging a ton of money to the cable and direct tv…AND getting advertising revenues.
All that for 40 minutes of new content 5 days a week. Then…that 40 minutes is a scam because that show NFL Access…they use so much time fillers….like their 4 downs at the end…or top 10 defensive backs from USC…or killing time going ad naseum on Brett Favre or Jay Cutler.
They should be the CNN for NFL Football. Everyday should have news from all 32 teams…they should use correspondants like Jerry from all over to report on all things with the franchise. They should recap every teams preseason moves (free agency, draft, coaching changes etc….) and talk about why the moves were made and how the outlook before training camp….how about a segment breaking down the games of the up and coming young players….like maybe 15 minutes on JaMarcus Russell one segment…and another on Joe Flacco….why not have interviews set up with players, coaches and GMs…..simulcast an hour or two of some of those NFL Sirius programs….
THe NFL Network is really a rip off right now if you think about it. ARe people really paying to see replays of the same 5 or 6 games you talked about……
May 15th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
I just send an email to them SnB …
nfln.fans@nfl.com
May 15th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Your CNN for NFL Football is a good analogy, make sure you put that in there.
May 15th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Sending them an email…LOL
May 15th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
SnB, 3 out of 4 of those games were when Kiffin was there. Running the ball, balanced offense. Those days are over.
May 15th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
SnB defense, it’s the “NFL Network”. Naturally, they’re going to cover the better teams and the league’s better players. If the Raiders want more coverage, they can start winning. That helps.
May 15th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
SnB Defense Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
It’s hard to believe that someone who professes to have season tickets, would be so hateful of his starting QB. Don’t believe it.
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Why would someone brag about going to all the games anyway. I’ve gone to quite a few games and unless you have sideline seats between the 40’s its actually a better view on T.V.
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SnB
Let me preface this comment with how much your comments have been supported with facts and opinion that you have for Raider football. I enjoy your comments due to your love for Raiders and the passion you bring on many subjects.
The above comment you are way off base, and I respectfully disagree. I have been a season ticket holder(psl also) for the past 13 years and was a season ticket holder when the Raiders were in Socal.
My father scraped and worked extra hours to afford tickets in the 70’s, to attend games that I was able to also see. The game experience in Oaktown is like no other type in this world.
I know the Philly fans who attend eagle games or Bears fans and many other teams will all have the mantle of the best time tailgating. I have been to other stadiums, San Diego, Seattle, Denver, KC, SF, Tenn, Wash, and Arizona. Raider fans are the best and have more fun than those other teams I mentioned.
As far as watching the games, the TV is no justice of being there, the emotion of highs and lows, the friends you meet, the memorys you have can never be the same as watching the game on tv.
There are many times on a TV timeout when a injured player is on the training table and the TV comes back and their is no mention of his replacement and why, but at the game you know the reason. This is just one example of a reason attending games is so different.
There are many others, I mentioned the tailgating, the highs and lows, as all fans we love the Raiders and bleed silver and black. I would love to see anybody who never has been to a game go, it will be like a experience you will always remember.
I like my fan experience, the Tv has no human element,just a bunch of players playing you don’t feel close to.
May 15th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Garcia will be a solid back up plan.
May 15th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Dell, you have to admit. With the Raiders losing as much as they do, it’s kind of a waste going to games these days. You wind up spending hundreds of dollars just to watch lousy football.
May 15th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
And, BTW, I’ve been to games. And I’ve been a Raider fan for 3 decades. It sucks. It was fun during the Gruden years, because you knew we were going to win. But it sucks now. And don’t act like it’s fun today. I see the looks on your guys’ faces toward the end of the game. You’d might as well be in prison cells.
May 15th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Madden,
You have valid point. I’m heading home from work, to comment on why I have fun will only keep me here longer.
Have a great weekend, it will be hot in Sacto this weekend.
Peace
May 15th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Alcohol will make anything fun, Dell. But winning would make those games a lot funner. You have a nice weekend, too. And, it just so happens, I’m in LA. But I’ll be out of here on time to miss the Laker fan mass circle jerk Sunday.
May 15th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
SnB, 3 out of 4 of those games were when Kiffin was there. Running the ball, balanced offense. Those days are over.
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A couple of us disagree.
Oakland has been and will continue to be a running team.
http://msn.foxsports.com/video/NFL?vid=9ea38b01-4bc0-49e5-996a-a6c75e23b02a
“Lorenzo Neal is foaming at the mouth to play for Oakland…and he’s mezmerized by the talent that they have in Oakland at the running back position.”
May 15th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
“Michael Bush compares to Michael Turner”
Lornezo Neal
I think Lorenzo should be a decent judge of the position…
May 15th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Nnamdi I swear I said that about bush a little while ago
May 15th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Nnamdi, we are not a running team. Al Davis drafted Russell to hand off the ball? Get real.
May 15th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
I agree with all this. The problem is if you throw Fargas into the mix as a few genius’s here want to do it throws a monkey wrench into a potentially explosive attack.
Fargas literally sucks the life out of our offense!
# SnB Defense Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
KoolKell,
DMAC and Bush can throw and catch the ball. That’s what makes them so effective.
I think that DMAC against K.C and Bush against Tampa were not aberrations. They are capable of games like that at any time if the defenses are off-balance.
Again, its up to Cable to call the game correctly and use those two to maximum effect. Cable should be throwing to them a bunch too.
IF they do those things they will be the “surprise” of the league.
May 15th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Adam Schefter has been MIA all offseason I wonder if he got the axe or will return when training camp starts.
# jhill Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
I agree with the take on the NFL network. Someone is dropping the ball big time there. It could EASILY be so much better.
There us zero reason for team cam to not be more active. There should be a reporter assigned to every team.
And how hard is it to replay the entire previous season, instead of the same 4 or 5 games over and over and over and over and ….
They are missing a HUGE opportunity to snatch viewers.
May 15th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Mistabrown
I heard somewhere that Schefter signed a deal with ESPN and will be joining them by the pre-season in an “insiders” role similar to Chris Mortensen.
May 15th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
“snatch viewers”…funny
May 15th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
My opinion on the Raider offense is very simple. We have two phenomenal HB’s in DMC and MBush. I feel DMC is going to have an awesome year. The wya they are planning to use DMC will force defenses to account for him in the passing game. they will have to cover him with LBers and safeties ..good luck. His ability to catch the ball is WR like he is essentially a WR in our passing game who lines up everywhere even in the backfield. Then he lines up at HB and carries the ball like few HB’s. DMC will make our offense explosive by himself.
MBush is a feature back extraordinaire great size and tremendous skillset. If the defense does npt account for him they will payhe can dominate a game on the ground as well as catch passes underneath for 1st downs.
ZMiller is a toptier TE capable of keeping the chains moving and making bigtime redzone plays. Now that we have another TE capable of blocking ZM will be free to attack the seam.
These three players alone can make the Raiders one of the most difficult teams in the NFL to defend due to their versatility.
when you add WR’s like DHB, Chaz, JLH with the kind of speed they have and Russell’s arm strength this will eventally be an extremely difficult defense to stop. As I said earlier if you watched NE’s offense it is very similar t what we off except it’s not as explosive. What made Matt Cassell was the fact that defenses had account for both Moss and Welker alng with stopping the running game. Very few defenses if any at all can do that. It stretches beyond it’s ability to be effectivedue to Moss’s tremendous speed and playmaking ability. He can bust any zone and when he does Welker is free to operate underneath essentially unchallenged. Thus his huge #’s You simple can’t stop it all. A QB simply takes what the defense gives him and if he’s accurate it’s over….6 points.
The Raider offense offers the same dynamics except with more speed and power in DMC and MBush. Coveraing DMC out of the backfield in this offense will be hopeless unless you want to give up 10 yards a carry to MBush. If you try to stop Bush who will cover DMC?
It’s called pick you poison, because you are definitely going to die. This is why the drafting of DHB was so essential, his ability to force doubles deep makes the entire offense functional. DHB’s speed is impossible to cover one on one……..period
The only thing that could slow this down is Russell’s ineffectiveness. Which I can’t see as being a problem. What he did with essentially 20% of this says in time, and believe me it’ll only be a matter of TIME
May 15th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
While Chaz will be a huge factor in the WR’s on this team. DHB’s presence will be felt long before the season is over. He’s just too talented. The kid’s athleticism is off the charts. He wil have some developement issues as does all rookie WR’s but what they will ask him to do he can do extremely well. Which is run by the defense and force doubles. He gets deep so freakin fast that getting the ball to him a couple of time s a game shouldn’t be that difficult.
So we’ll see.
May 15th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
BTW Matt Cassell IMHO is not much better than Russell will be by the 4th or 5th game. Russell is going to have some HUGE games in this offense.
May 15th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
Does anyone know where to find how many times each receiver was targeted and the receivers # of completions?
May 15th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
post 160-SinceFrankYouell-nicely said!
May 15th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
My personal opinion on DMC’s stats for next year:
a) DMC 1,200 yards rushing 10-15 TD’s and 500+ yards recieving.
b) MBush 800-1,100 yards rushing 12+ TD’s 300+ yards recieving.
c) ZM 65 passes 800+ yards recieving
These 3 will drive the offense of the Oakland Raiders. The rest is gravy
Russell could have 3,500+ yards passing 28+ TD’s 11 int’s ….. if he starts slow.
May 15th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Lefty12, Russell is going to have to fail miserably not to put up some very aggessive #’s in this offense.
The talent around him is young but extremely talented stating with DMC and MBush. Most just don’t understand how much of a difference those two can make for Russell. If we put both on the field together with DMc used primarily in the passing game similar to Wes Welker, the sky is the limit. ZMiller will force the defense to cover him leaving DMC open underneath. The can’t cover all of it. We just need to deploy all of it and force the defense into mistakes.
May 15th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Priest do you work for the raiders? What draft picks do you think we could get for fargas?
May 15th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
No No no, I have never worked for the Raiders. I wanted to and would love to but never got the chance.
For Fargas hopefully a 3rd most would laugh at that because they just don’t understand what fargas brings to the table. They severely understate what he does for the Raiders.
May 15th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Priest-i agree how Russell plays will determine how we do.the parts are there.i believe our passing game is going to be much more prevalent than many think.i keep reading that we are going to be a run,run ,run team,but i don’t think so.we will be a running team,but our passing game should be explosive,and very good.
May 15th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
The reason some think I did was because I was so involved with the team. I did do some freelance stuff but nothing major.
May 15th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Priest,
I am willing to bet you 1000 dollars that DMC and Bush dont get half the stats you predict. Want some??
May 15th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Lefty12, I couldn’t agree more about the passing game. What Russell and ZM have done tells you what it can become and he was double and tripled. Defense will be at our mercy because of DMC. Let me tell ya if DMc were healthy all year and Cable was running the offense all year. Russell would’ve had agreat year for his first full year IMO as many as 20+ TD’s. When a QB of Russell’s talent has a weapon like that it opens up all kinds of possiblities. Not to mention if Chaz and JLH were more of a factor. You saw a glimpse of it the last few games and it just a glimpse. Just think of the that from game one on, those guy’s would’ve played off each other and given us something to sing about.
Now extrapulate the last two games over a 16 game season you’re talking well over 20 TD’s and 3,000 yards passing easy.
May 15th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
Go AWAY!!
May 15th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Interesting because there WAS a 16 game season last year(no need to “extrapulate”) and the numbers were historically bad.
May 15th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
So no, you dont want to bet????
May 15th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Anybody with half a brain that saw DMC when he was healthy pick up yeards the way he did. In one game he rushed for 150+ so did MBush and they split time.
The KC game what DMC did speaks volumes
The Tampa game what MBush did speaks volumes. The difference is DMC wasn’t healthy ALL YEAR. If he is thing will be much different. Those make the Raider offense second to NONE and potentially one of the best in NFL history.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:00 am
But why am I talking to a complete idiot about common sense things?
May 16th, 2009 at 12:04 am
Did you just say the Raider offense was second to none and one of the best in NFL history????? Oh my god, no way you are walking the streets. If you are I hope to god you have a leash on your neck.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:05 am
Pay pal pretty much kills that argument.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:06 am
BOY! you are dumb, can you read or do you take things out of context just to argue?
Take it up with someone more inclined……
May 16th, 2009 at 12:07 am
I REALLY hope Priest is typing from some sort of institution. I really dont feel safe having my mom and grandma walk the streets if not. I am not even joking.
Best in NFL history? WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 16th, 2009 at 12:08 am
I’m done DuD……..move to the next guy
May 16th, 2009 at 12:08 am
Out of context?? You just typed it. Oh wow, you really are a fruit loop arent you??
May 16th, 2009 at 12:09 am
What city are you in?? Cause if your anywhere near my pad I am getting a BIG dog.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:12 am
later Priest!
May 16th, 2009 at 12:13 am
Left, as I said before I was so rudely interupted.
I think by mid-season we could have as dynamic a passing game as any in our division. This is why I believe Sol Wilcots speculated that the Raiders could be the surprise team in the league. They see it, but the haters are hoping Russell doesn’t deliver so they don’t have to eat their words.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:13 am
Adios my friend……..
May 16th, 2009 at 12:15 am
So NO, you dont want to bet?? Must not feel that strong.
” Best in NFL history.”- Priesttj
May 16th, 2009 at 12:18 am
you sajd it,it’s all on Russells shoulders,and that is a lot for a 22/23 year old to have put on their shoulders.we all expect so much,but we must be patient.it is after all only his 2nd year as a full time QB.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:20 am
before i go-”potentially the best….”.one word makes a lot of difference.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:27 am
Lefty12, very true and I am want to be patient. But when I think of DMC’s talent in the passing game my wheels spin. I think he can do for the Raiders what Marshall Faulk was for Rams. Those passing stats I posted will basically come in the second half of the season IMO. Early I see us running more to settle everyone down. But in the second half or say the final ten games I just see us taking off.
Russell early will struggle to read the defenses and get the ball to the right player however I don’t see that lasting all year.
Matt Cassell took 6 – 7 games to really settle in and I see something similar with Russell. But later I see DMC becoming a reliable target along with ZM and that’s when things will open up.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:31 am
That potential I spoke of was not just next season I meant over the next 5 – 6 years ass all the principle parties develope. The possiblities are mind boggling.
Because of DMC and MBush.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:31 am
Adios Left.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:45 am
What did I miss, Dude? What did Preist say was the best in NFL history? OMG, I don’t even want to know. Even if he’s talking about Lechler or Greg Pappa, the only two things we have that are merely even good, he’s lost it.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:48 am
OMG, I just read it. He really said our current offense could be the best in NFL history. Not that they’d merely be good. Not that they’d be great. The best, ever, he said. Preist, keep it up and even the kool aid drinkers are going to start making fun of you.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:51 am
Beautiful, dumb and dumber, sharing their lack of football knowledge.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:57 am
priest, you’re talking about football knowledge just moments after claiming that the current Raiders’ offense could be the best in NFL history. Call it a night. Come back tomorrow when you’re rested and apologize.
May 16th, 2009 at 1:00 am
Hey dummies! name another tandem better than Marcus and Bo. Bo never had a training camp. Even though Bo was the best back I’ve personally ever seen this tandem we have now could rival that by the time they’re done. If they stay together for say 6 years or more and they’re relatively healthy. I honestly believe that they could “potentially” be considered one of the best tandems in NFL history.
What they do next year should give us a real good idea.
May 16th, 2009 at 1:08 am
What the offense is a s a whole we’ll get a great idea nexst year as well. I saw the Redskins with Riggins and Washington. The Rams with Marshall and the WR’s. Even the 49ers with Craig, Rice and Taylor. The talent on this roster while very young is easily as talented as those rosters. The QB is also very young but extremely gifted. His growth next year will tell a lot. Then we’ll see if what I’m saying is out of whack.
Adios
May 16th, 2009 at 3:02 am
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May 16th, 2009 at 3:46 am
Like I said when we got him Garcia will do anything to start he has no plan of mentoring Jruss he will stick a knife in his back all preseson and during the regular seasnon.
May 16th, 2009 at 3:57 am
aiderRockstar Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
I’m glad Russell feels pressured. He should
this is his 3rd NFL season. That is when most 1st Round draft picks blossom into solid starters and franchise type players.
competition is good. a back up plan is good.
If Garcia came in last year for an injured Russell when we played against the Panthers we would have won that game. guaranteed. we had Andrew Walter back there and he played just as bad as he did back in 2006 under the Shell/Walsh debacle
seriously. what can guys like McCown, Culpepper, Walter & Tui teach Russell about football? nothing.
He finally has a QB coach and a veteran mentor. nobody should complain about Garcia. The only way he’ll be on the field is if he’s head & shoulders better than Russell. If he proves to be better than JR and claims the starting job you should be mad at Russell, not Garcia …
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Trust me RR garcia ain’t gonna spend 1 second mentoring jruss he is out for his job believe that If jruss struggles early you’ll see garcia in cables ear on the sideline.
May 16th, 2009 at 4:00 am
People say where gonna run run run yeah well the oline better be way improved and the dline stunk last year. Even as hardcore a koolaid drinker as i am I worry when parcells wants grove and al davis and cable wanted satele .
May 16th, 2009 at 5:36 am
Mjallo!! my fellow NATIONers!!
May 16th, 2009 at 7:37 am
Not very subtle
May 16th, 2009 at 7:58 am
CenturionWR87…
congrats! a very boring game, but what the heck the title is what counts, congrats again!
May 16th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Morning Nation!
ANyone see a little Culpepper in Garcia like I do. I would not trust Garcia if I was JR.
May 16th, 2009 at 8:28 am
anyone
May 16th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Ummm.. trust Garcia how? Is Garcia not suppose to try his best?
May 16th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Garcia’s wife is hot if he fails on the filed he still gets to go home to that!
May 16th, 2009 at 8:50 am
all JaMarcus has to do, is being better than Garcia, if he cant do that he dont deserve the starting spot…
Its just like Warner vs Leinert… except leinert truly sucked… whereas Jamarcus can step up…
“I would not trust Garcia if…”? i think you mean fear… as in “I would fear Garcia if…”…
May 16th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Good point LMN if Russell is not even as good as Garcia then he doesn’t deserve to start period.
Time to step it up JR, I think he will.
May 16th, 2009 at 8:57 am
Leinart truly sucked, wheras Jamarcus can step up??????
Jamarcus Russell hasnt done squat, just like Leinart. Both of them could step up.
May 16th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Leinart at least had good to great receivers to throw to. Remember what JR was up qagainst. Injured RB’s. No good WR. And you wonder why he took until the 2nd part of the season to come on.
May 16th, 2009 at 9:03 am
I just can’t stress enough how this is all riding on the coaches. If we come out next year as that same ole I formation offense, we are not going very far regardless of who is under C.
1st and 10 – McFadden off LT for 5 yds out of the I
2nd and 5 – McFadden up the middle for a 2 yd gain.
3rd and 3 – Bush off RT for 1 yd gain out of the I
4th and 2 – Lechler booms another one!
Next series
1st and 10 – Play action out of the I, dump off to Bush for 8 yds.
2nd a 2 – Bush up the middle for 4.
1st and 10 – Bush off RT out of the I for 1 yd.
2nd and 9 – Russell drops back out of the I, forces one in to Miller for 12 yds, ohhhhh he drops it after than crushing hit. B
3rd and 9 – play action out of the I, goes deep to DHB who is unable to come down with it over the S and deep CB.
May 16th, 2009 at 9:04 am
dude…
JaMarcus ->CAN<- step up…
Leinert is done
May 16th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Still would take Leinart over Russell any day. Dont think either will end up doing much in the league.
May 16th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Russell can step up but Leinart is done. Hmm… Words of a very rational thinkn guy. LOL!!
May 16th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Leinart is already a bust. Plain and simple!
Will he EVER play for Wiesenhunt? That coach cleary has ZERO confidence in Leinart. Leinart couldn’t get it done with Fitgerald, Boldin, and Edge. Will he ever play with offensive talent like he had in Az? He’s done! And he seems to be ok with it. Hey, he’s super paid, so WTF?
Tell me this, is the ONE player from that USC-Texas game that is doing ANYTHING in the league? How sad is that? Did they all peak on that one day? Or did they decide that they had arrived and no longer needed to work?
VY – Bust
Leinart – Bust
Bush – Semi Bust
Lendale – Bust
Huff – Bust
Am I missing anyone?
May 16th, 2009 at 9:17 am
Who gets on the field first for their current team, LOL!?!?!?
Vince Young for Tenn or Matt Leinart for Az?
May 16th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Dude
why don’t you just fondle Leinart’s sack you like him so much. Maybe there is a Matt Leinart man love web site you could frequent?
May 16th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Russell, meanwhile, has an owner (first and foremost), and a coach, and a team that still believes he is the guy. I mean, isn’t this offense being built around Russell? Do you really thing Garcia can get the ball to DHB like the offense will call for?
Garcia being brought in is more of a statement towards Andrew Walter than it is Russell. That should be pretty obvious.
May 16th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Dude…
my guess you are a USC fan??? LOL
May 16th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Jhill…
I mostly agree, I wont say LenDale is a bust though..
May 16th, 2009 at 9:27 am
You’re probably right about LenDale …
Maybe embarrasment would have been a better word for him. 260 he played at last year? Cmon!
May 16th, 2009 at 9:27 am
—”Garcia being brought in is more of a statement towards Andrew Walter than it is Russell. That should be pretty obvious.”—
disagree, Garcia is here to push and mentor JaMarcus…
Walter should have been traded, Groskowski (sp) is here says much about walter…
that said Walter will get to the Playoffs with another team before any of our QBs will with the raiders
May 16th, 2009 at 9:31 am
LenDale is Tenn’s version of our Bush, he shared snaps, and in ‘08 he had 1110 and in ‘09 he had 773, thats okay when you share snaps, he is just like our Bush!
May 16th, 2009 at 9:31 am
I look at that list of players and I think it’s all between the ears. Huff, Bush, VY, and heck even Leinart all have the talent, but it seems like they have lost that … that …. you know, that ummmmph about themselves that got them to this place.
Too bad!
May 16th, 2009 at 9:33 am
260lbs LMN …
I’m sure that is not what Fisher had in mind for LenDale!
May 16th, 2009 at 9:34 am
So what you’re saying is Andrew Walter wasn’t pushing JRuss, right?
May 16th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Jhill…
LenDale weighs 240… im sure Al didnt had 280 in mind with Russell… LOL
May 16th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Walter hasnt been on the team since Shell left… but if he went to bills, bears or something like i, he will go to playoffs way sooner than our team will
May 16th, 2009 at 9:46 am
It’s a pretty simple point LMN, but hey, whatever.
If Walter was any type of #2, they would not have signed Garcia. The fact that Walter isn’t even the #3 right now shows how much confidence they have in him.
All goes back to my original statement of Garcia being brought in is more of a statement towards Walter than it is Russell. Garcia was brought in to be the backup, you know, the job Walter should have nailed down by now.
May 16th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Garcia’s addition shows Davis is serious about winning this season.
He’s a reliable workman like back up that can help us win if needed instead of Walter who looked like his 2006 self last year against Carolina.
May 16th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Honestly, other than the horrific blow outs suffered monday night, in New Orleans and against the Falcons, Oakland was in several games last year and could’ve won.
The should’ve beaten the Bills, KC the second time and the Chargers at least.
A few peices missing, but the level of comeptition seems to be ramping up.
May 16th, 2009 at 9:57 am
277. We’re on the same wavelength!
May 16th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Jhill.
exactly, he hasnt been a part of the team since shell ruined him…. him as a bear, bill, saint, ram or whatever, eh would go to the POs before we will…
Al does not like him, thats why he isnt on the team, but he still find his abilities too good to just cut him, because he then know Walter will beat our asses..
if he was that bad as you say, he should have been cut 3 years ago..
May 16th, 2009 at 10:02 am
priesttj Says:
” But later I see DMC becoming a reliable target along with ZM and that’s when things will open up.”
Last night I watched that 2nd KC game and DMC made SEVERAL really good catches in the slot and split out wide and in heavy traffic. Very good hands.
One play early on was incomplete, but his speed and skills caused a blatant P.I. that was good for 40 yards.
Looking forward to his capabilites, running catching and throwing…
May 16th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Good morning.
LMN,
What’s up dude?
May 16th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Who said Al doesn’t like A Walter? That’s an Al pick, 6′6 QB with a cannon!!!
May 16th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Andrew Walter is terrible, absolutely pathetic in fact. He has shown NOTHING, except that he is scared back there.
On the other hand, JR showed quite a bit of improvement as the season went on last year, and that is all you can really ask of a young QB in his 1st year starting. Especially with all the turmoil and lack of talent around him, JR still managed to improve his game.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:20 am
You would be scared too playing behind Art’s Oline, Art killed Walters Career like the Texans did Carr.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:25 am
I agree Raider O, a bad O-line will shake a young QB’s confidence quick. But for that same reason I don’t get all the criticism surrounding JR. At least he showed “something” despite the same problems Walter had, and arguably a worse set of circumstances too.
I do agree that Walter has all the tools, I just haven’t seen a glimpse of anything out of him, except for a few pre-season games.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:32 am
RuffRaider,
I really hate to say this, but the only reason I can think of is Race bro. Again I’m sorry for saying that, buy how do you explain it?!
As a 1st year starter:
13 TDs!!!!!!
8 INTs!!!!!!
Around 55%!!!!!
played behind a bad Oline, and The entire Kittin Drama situation!!!!!!!
May 16th, 2009 at 10:35 am
P Manning didn’t even come close to those stats his 1st year. He had 25+ ints!!!! JR had 8, less than a 1/3!!!!!
May 16th, 2009 at 10:42 am
LMN,
Ole’ OLe’ Ole’!!!!!!
We kept Walter because we still see potential in him. He has the size, arm strength, and he played very well at college. He can be a great backup, if he can get it together.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:46 am
LMN,
If that was the case, then we can trade him to the NFC. I really think we kept him due to his potential. IMHO
Due to that year with Art, I don’t think Walter can be a starter in this league. He can be a great backup, them maybe later on he can start.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Actually O, the first I heard the JR race issue on this Blog to be honest I thought it was BS. But now after reading for a while I can’t really give an alternate explanation. Despite the fact that just about every other young QB in NFL history has struggled early on, JR is held to a different standard around here, with these alleged Raider fans no less. His stats just don’t show he played THAT bad last year. So maybe there is something to that.
I understand the weight issue, the “work ethic” question, the rolls/fur coat, the bling, etc… BUT, he is OUR #1 overall pick, and he played pretty damn well at the end of last year. Not a bad body of work for the entire season either, all things considered. So yeah, maybe race has something to do with it. Either that, or a bunch of trolls hanging around this place. The only other explanation is that some people just don’t know squat about the NFL and what it takes to develop a young QB.
As far as the commentators and everyone else around the league, I have come to expect no less with the Raiders. You either love ‘em or hate ‘em, there is no in between. The snow job was the final straw and proved that theory once and for all in my book.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:54 am
BTW – I agree that Walter is the perfect fit for our # 3 QB. He’s young, has the tools, big arm, etc… It’s Walters as the # 2 that really gets me nervous. But as a # 3, I am actually hoping they give him more time to develop.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Yeah Arts line and his 7 step drop back to pass plays.
What a joke!
May 16th, 2009 at 10:58 am
RuffRaider,
Race is a very sensetive subject in the US, due to a long history of a lot of Crap involving Race!!
I can’t understand the “work ethic” thing or the weight issues!!! Look at Big Ben, does he look like he is in great shape?? What about his motorcycle accident!!! It almost ended his career, and the team didn’t make the PO that year. So far, I’m correct??
Now, what do you hear about Big Ben??
How about Joe N, he wore his coats on the sidelines!!!
Can someone please explain it to me?? I really hate to think Race is the Issue in 2009. And in SPORTS!!!!
May 16th, 2009 at 11:01 am
RuffRaider,
The Snow Job! lol
They Love to Hate the Raiders, and I love it.
May 16th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Garcia sounds just like a winner is suppose to sound, not happy being a backup and will push JR all the way. As long as Garcia conducts himself as a professional and not a Leon, he will be welcome. The Raider haters want JR to fail and it’s up to JR to prove them wrong. I do not worry about JR’s ability but the bandaid “O” line. Satele at center is a huge weak spot, especially next to Carlisle.
May 16th, 2009 at 11:11 am
I don’t “agree” with the weight being an issue, or the work ethic thing either. I can just “understand” why people could be down on him because of what they hear, the media hype, or from trolls, etc… So, for someone to be down on Russell for those reasons, justified or now, I can understand where they are coming from, although I personally disagree.
But still, that doesn’t come close to explaining how anyone could think he’s a bust at this point in his career. Or that his 2nd season as the starter is somehow his “make or break” season in the league, that is ridiculous. I’m not totally convinced it’s race as some folks around here could easily be trolls for all I know. I haven’t really been here long enough to tell. But it’s definitely something, for sure.
May 16th, 2009 at 11:13 am
—”Can someone please explain it to me?? I really hate to think Race is the Issue in 2009. And in SPORTS!!!!”—
yeah, i dont believe it either, its about money and about winning! nothing else counts
May 16th, 2009 at 11:13 am
http://www.lazygirls.info/Viktoriya_Kutuzova?loc=0
May 16th, 2009 at 11:18 am
It’s a matter of perception, correct? Does that make me Racist!! lol
May 16th, 2009 at 11:19 am
http://www.flickr.com/photos/funinthegym/2523635678/
May 16th, 2009 at 11:20 am
LMN,
Wow!! She, it, its all Lovely!!
May 16th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Bwhahhahahha, the PFT post about James Harrison, is hilarious =)
May 16th, 2009 at 11:24 am
I have a big question about Satele too Mad Dog. I think Coach Cable said the zone blocking scheme is better suited for Satele. But I still think he can get overpowered at the point of attack. Jamal Williams is a beast down in SD, and scheme or no scheme I picture Satele getting plowed at least twice a year.
I’d at least like to see the expected starting 5 begin practicing together here real quick as O-line chemistry is a big issue, if not one of the keys this year.
May 16th, 2009 at 11:24 am
#303
LMFAO
May 16th, 2009 at 11:28 am
for crying out loud! Jerry get your connection fixed! is it an old pathetic ISDN connection or what?
you do know its nearly the 2010 and fiberoptics is not the future, its “the now”… anything less than 20MB/sec is pathetic… get in the game!
May 16th, 2009 at 11:32 am
LMN,
In this Economy, all Jerry thinks about is being employed!!!
May 16th, 2009 at 11:38 am
LMN,
About 3 months ago, I called my Visa CC account to ask for a limit increase.
I do that every 6 months. They normaly increase it by about 10-15%. so last time I called, the cut my limit by 20k!!! When I asked why, I was told I don’t need that much credit!!!
May 16th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Maybe you’ve seen it already, great read on Lorenzo Neal.
By Thomas George | NFL.com Senior Columnist
“He was a free agent a few weeks ago wondering after 16 NFL seasons if one more chance, one more team, one more call was in the offing. He was contemplating those thoughts while driving from San Diego to Los Angeles.
And then the phone rang.
“Lorenzo,” the familiar voice began. “This is Al Davis. You want to be a Raider?”
Thank goodness, said Lorenzo Neal, he did not careen off the road.
“I thought, ‘uh-oh,”‘ said Neal, “I’ve got the man on the phone.
He said he wanted me to come in and give it my all and that he was expecting leadership. I took a plane out. Good visit. I took some time to think about it. And pretty soon I was signing on the dotted line.”
The Raiders have high hopes for third-year fullback Oren O’Neal, but the nasty knee injury that he suffered in preseason last year still leaves him questionable.
The Raiders, in this era of spread offenses and empty backfields, are one of a handful of NFL teams who still believe in the power and the punishing role of a lead-blocking back, the fullback.
It is easier to retain that view when you have an explosive tailback like Darren McFadden.
Too, the Raiders, green in so many spots, particularly on offense, needed a voice, a leader, a player who can show how to unlock the secrets of top-tier performance and professionalism in the league. This franchise has lost 12, 11, 12, 14, 12 and 11 games, respectively, in each of the last six seasons. Some of that has less to do with talent than it does with mindset and execution.
The Raiders mystique is dormant.
Neal, at age 38 but in better condition than some age 28, can help fix it.
Listen:
“The players and teams around the league talk about how the Raiders have lost their luster,” Neal said.
“I can look into every players’ eyes here and say God has blessed me to play a 17th year. My message is to get respect, you have to change what you are doing. You have to understand you are playing a kid’s game for a king’s ransom.
Make it not about yourself, but about us. You just have to stop some things and understand that when your time is over, you will be replaced.
I will tell them I have had my day in the sun. I played with Eric Allen, Sam Mills, Rickey Jackson when I got started in the league; what pros — I took from those guys. And now I am here to empower these young men. I want them to see if this old man can go out and give what he is giving, then …”
He will show the Raiders the power that emanates from his 5-foot-11, 245 pounds.
“he’s one big muscle,” the Raiders say — and he is there to lead block and hammer linebackers and set the tone for what kind of physical day it is going to be when you play the Raiders.
In Raiders camp last week, Neal began to set that course.
The Raiders say he had no trouble understanding alignment, finding the right guy, exhibiting how to use leverage and pulling the passion out of Oakland’s rather quiet stable of running backs. Neal is not shy.
But what is left in this player? Can he do it for McFadden?.
I would not doubt a man who grew up on 50 acres in Lemoore, Calif., feeding pigs and cows and goats and chickens at the crack of dawn. A player who picked cotton and gathered squash. One who uses boxing, wrestling, karate and other innovative forms of training and nutrition to maximize his conditioning.
“I guess my game is sometimes not pretty,” Neal said.
“I’m not a beautiful strawberry or banana. I’m an onion. But you know what? For a lot of people, you’ve got to have that onion to make a hamburger right. You’ve to have that onion to make that soup.
I’m an ISO, man-on-man guy that looks to win that battle. To lead.”
May 16th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Great read on Frantz Joseph, 5 Qs on Silver&Black Blog on SFGate.com. Sorry guys, but I can’t copy and paste.
May 16th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
That was a nice read Marley thx. I hope Neal can contribute more than veteran leadership.
May 16th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Garcia = backup.
If he lights a fire under JR’s azz, then great. But this offense is not being built for his talents and it would be a monumental mistake imho to bail on JR in only his 2nd year starting. Still, the pressure to win now can make you do stupid things now and ignore the long term picture.
Can the Oline protect? The 1st question that comes to mind. If you give JR time you don’t even need worry about any Garcia reincarnation on the field. He’ll be on the bench so long it’ll mold to his azz.
May 16th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
This offense will only be limited by the Oline and the playcalling. The talent is all around the ball otherwise. JR DMC MB ZM DHB …DBH truly can make the whole offense better – a great pick!
How much confidence do you have in the Oline? IS the question. I’ll wait to see how they perform before christening the season w/ Ws and projected stats.
May 16th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Oh yeah. If you ever watched any DHB highlights you would do well to mark the distinct difference in the QBs throwing arms. DHBs freshman year he had Hollemback (sp?) who could get the ball deep and in a nice position. His remaining years at MD was w/ a QB who to be honest couldn’t deliver the ball nearly as well – just came up short …its obvious.
I lend these two clips vs Miami, which has NFL speed on that team. Hollemback is the QB and just make note of the difference in the ability to deliver the ball vs the others …just imagine JR back there lobbing it up:
(This was in the same game)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnCm5Uhh6XE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI-rEopKpSs&feature=related
May 16th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Oh yeah. If you ever watched any DHB highlights you would do well to mark the distinct difference in the QBs throwing arms. DHBs freshman year he had Hollemback (sp?) who could get the ball deep and in a nice position. His remaining years at MD was w/ a QB who to be honest couldn’t deliver the ball nearly as well – just came up short …its obvious.
I lend these two clips vs Miami, which has NFL speed on that team. Hollemback is the QB and just make note of the difference in the ability to deliver the ball vs the others …just imagine JR back there lobbing it up:
(This was in the same game)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnCm5Uhh6XE&feature=related
May 16th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI-rEopKpSs&feature=related
May 16th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Bob Marley,
Thanks for the article on Neal. Lorenzo is the epitome of the kind of football player the Raiders need.
Don’t know if he’ll make it through the entire season, but he will make an impact regardless.
May 16th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Bob, could you sing a few bars of “Redemption Song”. Loved that one.
May 16th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
How about Elvis doing Bob?
“Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery;
None but ourselves can free our minds.
Have no fear for atomic energy,
cause none of them can stop the time.
How long shall they kill our prophets,
While we stand aside and look? ooh!
Some say its just a part of it
Weve got to fulfill de book”
May 16th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Anyone else hear the rumor of the Patriots inquiring about Burgess?
May 16th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Elvis, that was way cool. How about Bob doing “Don’t Be Cruel”. Or even better, “Jailhouse Rock”.
May 16th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
my favorite band is
http://www.cosmicdanceband.com
May 16th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Bob Marley….
Thanks, for the article on Neal.
He will bring a veteran leadership presence that has been lacking around here since Gannon had to hang ‘em up. Just hope he has enough left in the tank to hold the fort, until Mr. Pain gets healthy.
May 16th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
That picture of Crazy Al is starting to creep me out!
May 16th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Warren sap is still an a$$ and never did anything in Oakland.
Chaz Schilens is the real deal, a pro bowl calibre player so is Todd, which makes the DHB pick unnecessary, a waste when we could have had Monroe. I would rather of had Brace in the 2nd but Mitchell is a very intriguing prospect.
Russell will go as far as his personal discipline and the bandaid “O” line will allow. I suspect the “O” line as built will not protect JR through the tough schedule ahead and Garcia will get his chance due to JR’s inevitible injury. Garcia is an old man and the Raiders better start looking down the road for their #2 QB for the future.
Fargas belongs on the bench.
Utube Hitler would have been funny if it had not already been done with the Chefs last year.
May 16th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
The reason we need Garcia to start is because he will throw out Davis’s stupid offense and call his own plays. He’s here to win, period. We can make the playoffs this year.
May 16th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Hello….
May 16th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
….is there anybody in there?
May 16th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Saint McGiver!!!!!
May 16th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Oh man, why does my past keep coming back on me????
What’s up O?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d81055ffa&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
May 16th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Saint,
lol,
All is well, and how are you?
Home Depot, LMAO.
Dude, everytime I see one, I remember what you said and I start laughing.
May 16th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Wow. This place is dead. Everyone must be watching that stupid Kobe movie on ESPN. Booooring.
May 16th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Doing good brother.
Great, my lasting legacy.
I’ve got a coupla little ones myself and they aint gonna be able to pull any of that BS on this old dog!
“Dad, I need a couple of dollars for a Home Depot run”, I’ll be like “AH-HA, Gotcha!”
May 16th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
I know one part of Kobe’s life Spike didn’t document. Colorado…’03.
May 16th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Saint,
Great Article, and it doesn’t bash the Raiders!!! lol
May 16th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
333,
LMAO
What about school projects?!
LMFAO
May 16th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Still LMAO,
I wok up my daughter!!!
May 16th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Saint,
I just imagined your kid looking at you, with a sad look on his face. I think it means: Whats wrong with you, I need to go for a school project!!!! What are you talking about!!!
I don’t know how you will explain that one, but good luck.
LMAO
May 16th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Well, good luck with that one O.
Is it just mine or is your daughter also going to rule the world one day?? I fear that little girl sometimes!!
May 16th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
LOL re 338!!
He’ll look at me like “Got YOU old man”! Crap, I’ll have to play it cool. Make sure I inventory the receipt when he gets back.
May 16th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Gotta roll fellas.
Go Raiders!
May 16th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
I read another article today talking about how R Goodell wants to have a SB abroad.
I don’t care if does that with a few regular season games, or even the PB. Taking the SB abroad will be a big mistake IMO, it’s American Football!! I don’t want football to become like BBall or Baseball!!
MR, Saint,
What do you guys think?
May 16th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Good Night Sir.
also, I do get that feeling. The things they say and do, just amazing. God Bless them All.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
B4 the year is out Russell is going shut up all doubters. Sure Garcia IS pushing him but that is a good thing. The things Russell needs the most work at is his confidence that HE is what he needs to be for this team.
Success breeds confidence the more success he has the more confident he’ll become.
I agree withe poster that said next uyear is not a make or break year for Russell is a developmental year for Russell. As long as he continues to get better that’s all that matters.
I think it’ll take maybe 2 more years of solid starting fo Russell to demonstrate that otherworldly potential on a consistent basis. But that doesn’t mean we can’t win the division next year because I think we can.
As I stated before DMC and Mbush and ZM will take this offense where it goes next year and Russell will benefit greatly from their talent that will essentially give bouyancy to Russell’s development and take a ton of pressure off him. Same as the Steelers for Big Ben.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Werent DMC, Bush and Miller on the club last year? The same club that had a historically bad offense.
May 17th, 2009 at 12:34 am
Oakglenn:
You’re surely entitled to your opinion in your defense of Rob “freaking” Ryan, stating, to my total disbelief, that Rob basically called a good game. Are you out of your “freaking mind!” Are you hitting the sauce, smoking the bud or just stubborn and foolish in trying to defend the indefensible. Our defense was usually the last or among the last in defending the run. Under Ryan, we seldom put pressure, seldom blitzed and too often played “prevent defense” which prevents you from winning. Ryan was a loser in all areas of defense and Kiffin was right in trying to fire the idiot and Davis was wrong, again, in keeping the fool. And, Ryan didn’t develop anyone. The few players who developed under Ryan did it on their own effort, even though they were in a losing system. Ryan’s system. Get real dude.
May 17th, 2009 at 5:51 am
That picture of Crazy Al is still freaking me out.
Take it down!
Take it down!
May 17th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
May 17th, 2009 at 7:21 am
70 minutes to kickoff… im game ready! hope the guys are as well, my mates gets here soon, man a nailbiter!
May 17th, 2009 at 7:24 am
♫ Drengene fra vestegnen Allez Allez Allez ♫
May 17th, 2009 at 7:26 am
morning 4eva…
May 17th, 2009 at 7:42 am
Have a Great Time LMN and I hope your team wins!!!
May 17th, 2009 at 8:33 am
I agree with 347!!!
May 17th, 2009 at 9:57 am
[...] http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2009/05/15/garcia-doesnt-close-door-on-starting/If Garcia came in last year for an injured Russell when we played against the Panthers we would have won that game. guaranteed. we had Andrew Walter back there and he played just as bad as he did back in 2006 under the Shell/Walsh … [...]
May 17th, 2009 at 11:29 am
is it just me or is this blog getting worse?
May 17th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
effin Lakers, had better win today.
May 17th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Lakers dont deserve to win. Why can’t you Lakers fans see your team is too soft to win a title. Soft teams never win titles in any pro sport
May 17th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Elvis,
It’s not you bro, this blog is getting worse!!
I still love it!!!!
May 17th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
I want the lakers to win for one reason, king James Vs. Princess Kobe.
It doesn’t get any better than that, even the NBA wants it!!
May 17th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
I’m not a laker hater, or a fan. I like to watch good BBall, and that’s why I loved watching Jordan & Scotti Vs. Carl M and the twins!! Bulls Vs. Jazz, great games.
May 17th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
On the beach, yes he is out of his mind. He also says Ryans defense lacked fundamentals and discipline but he was a good DC who just didnt have the “players”.
Finally, he goes on to say he was only out of a job for
2 minutes.
Rob Ryan was a complete failure. If you weren’t calling for Ryans head the last 3 years maybe your head was in your anu$.
# On the beach in Cancun Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 12:34 am
Oakglenn:
You’re surely entitled to your opinion in your defense of Rob “freaking” Ryan, stating, to my total disbelief, that Rob basically called a good game. Are you out of your “freaking mind!” Are you hitting the sauce, smoking the bud or just stubborn and foolish in trying to defend the indefensible. Our defense was usually the last or among the last in defending the run. Under Ryan, we seldom put pressure, seldom blitzed and too often played “prevent defense” which prevents you from winning. Ryan was a loser in all areas of defense and Kiffin was right in trying to fire the idiot and Davis was wrong, again, in keeping the fool. And, Ryan didn’t develop anyone. The few players who developed under Ryan did it on their own effort, even though they were in a losing system. Ryan’s system. Get real dude.
May 17th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Does anybody want to bookmark this post?
# priesttj Says:
May 16th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
B4 the year is out Russell is going shut up all doubters. Sure Garcia IS pushing him but that is a good thing. The things Russell needs the most work at is his confidence that HE is what he needs to be for this team.
Success breeds confidence the more success he has the more confident he’ll become.
I agree withe poster that said next uyear is not a make or break year for Russell is a developmental year for Russell. As long as he continues to get better that’s all that matters.
I think it’ll take maybe 2 more years of solid starting fo Russell to demonstrate that otherworldly potential on a consistent basis. But that doesn’t mean we can’t win the division next year because I think we can.
As I stated before DMC and Mbush and ZM will take this offense where it goes next year and Russell will benefit greatly from their talent that will essentially give bouyancy to Russell’s development and take a ton of pressure off him. Same as the Steelers for Big Ben.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Mista,
Still drinking Merlot?
May 17th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Priest, If you are right, and you are usually dead wrong because you let your love of the Raiders get in the way of clear & rational thinking, the second Russell gets a taste of success he will likely get overconfident, lazy, nonchalant, and unfocused.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
And did you try Sterling?
May 17th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Hey O,
Of course Merlot & Cab. When the weather warms up I cut way down on the wine and have a beer!
May 17th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Havent tried Sterling, who sells it ?
May 17th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Bev & Mo, or any descent Liquor store. It’s great.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
As you stated before. DMAC has skinny legs, doesn’t break tackles, and no open field moves. Priest isnt it nice to change your opinions and feelings on players after they put the uniform on? Oh, didnt you say last year it will take 8-10 weeks for our passing game to gel? Ok so now Russell needs 2 more years?
# priesttj Says:
May 16th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
As I stated before DMC and Mbush and ZM will take this offense where it goes next year and Russell will benefit greatly from their talent that will essentially give bouyancy to Russell’s development and take a ton of pressure off him. Same as the Steelers for Big Ben.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
O, I’m going to try it. If it sucks I’m gonna let you have it!
Give Meridian a shot if you havent already!
May 17th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Sterling is a local, and it’s better than some great imports.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Livermore winery ?
May 17th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Mista,
Dude, their Cab is great too.
If you don’t like it, if you come to SD I’ll buy you another.
By the way bro, I can’t drink now due to religion.
Enjoy it for both of us, thank God I can still smoke.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Calistoga! Im on Sterlings website thats a sweet looking winery with a tram!
May 17th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
O, thats crazy they serve wine @ church!
Drop the smokes and sneak in a glass bro!
May 17th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Livemore is good, and the price is even better!!
Sterling is the best in Cali IMHO, and their Reserve is to die for!!
May 17th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Mista,
Trust me, I used to work in a liquor store. I also have a passion for wine, and growing grapes. I can’t wait to own my own farm one day. I’ll make my own wine!! I’ll grow my own smoke!!!
May 17th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
At a liquor store, sorry.
lol I Sarted my Session.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Started.
later nation.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
[...] http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2009/05/15/garcia-doesnt-close-door-on-starting/Jeff Garcia reminds me of Josh McCown. Anyway I have a question. If Garcia is the man like some on here think….why wouldn’t a Minnesota Vikings or 49ers not throw the bank at this guy and have him start for their teams? … [...]
May 17th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Hey Mista! give me one opinion that you’ve been right about, other than just rhetoric and contraversy.
I said what I said about DMC and I still stand by it, he was easily in the top two backs in that draft. I also said before we drafted him that he was a 1st rndr only that WE (the Raiders) didn’t need him. I’ve said many times that DMC is an outstanding talent before we drafted him but you conveniently omit that point.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
The HB I wanted in that draft went to the probowl BTW Chris Johnson.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
yeah I’m usually dead wrong.
May 17th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
BTW Mista who predicted we wouldn’t draft a DT and who even though I disagree with the decision not to get a OT I knew we wouldn’t. And I said as much.
May 17th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Good ? #post 380
May 17th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
GREAT!!!
Garcia can only do great stuff for the Raiders, This is the NFL!! Never Let Down. I hope he pushes Russell to be the QB he is. He’s as close to Gannon as there is. I’m glad the Raiders picked Garcia up.
May 17th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
# On the beach in Cancun Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 12:34 am
Oakglenn:
You’re surely entitled to your opinion in your defense of Rob “freaking” Ryan, stating, to my total disbelief, that Rob basically called a good game. Are you out of your “freaking mind!” Are you hitting the sauce, smoking the bud or just stubborn and foolish in trying to defend the indefensible. Our defense was usually the last or among the last in defending the run. Under Ryan, we seldom put pressure, seldom blitzed and too often played “prevent defense” which prevents you from winning. Ryan was a loser in all areas of defense and Kiffin was right in trying to fire the idiot and Davis was wrong, again, in keeping the fool. And, Ryan didn’t develop anyone. The few players who developed under Ryan did it on their own effort, even though they were in a losing system. Ryan’s system. Get real dude.
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Last me ask you a few questions. Sure, we were in the bottom of the league against the run the whole time Ryan was here. But, when did we rank highly on offense the whole time Ryan was here?? We didn’t. So teams could just run at us all day everyday. 2ndly, As I have mentioned at least 50 times on this blog, with the recent rule changes to encourage scoring, it is much more difficult for defenses to hold offenses when everything matters (See last TWO Super Bowl games, where BOTH TEAMS in BOTH GAMES, drove down the field and scored in the final minutes). If you have no idea what is going on out there, it is easy to just blame the coach. Kiffin wanted Ryan gone so he could bring his dad in, and if you watched the last game of last season, Cable (a first team coach), had Monte Kiffin on his heels with a bunch of 2nd and 3rd teamers. Davis was right not to bring in Monte.
Lastly, you fire your defensive coordinator like the way San Diego fired Ted Cotrell in the middle of last year. When you are losing games 39-38 and 35-32 like they did. They promoted Ron Rivera and started winning. Last year we lost games 17-15, 17-6 (the defense got FOUR INTS!!!), 20-13 (KC game where one of the TD’s was the fake fumble). The year before we lost games 12-10, 13-9, 17-6. When you lose games 12-10 and 13-9, you don’t fire the defensive coordinator. When you lose games 52-48 you fire the defensive coordinator. Plus I like your statement the players develop themselves. right. Whatever dude. You might want to sober up before you post that stuff again.
May 17th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
???
May 17th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
The Ravens boast a great defense but the rarely dominate games because their offense can’t score and the only reason the Steelers are succesful is Big Ben makes a few plays. In short you must be balanced to be a truely great team and we haven’t been.
Ryan’s defenses got very little support from the offense and in some cases the coach(Kiffin). He was essentially the fall guy. As Oak stated earlier the defense played well enough to win but rarely did due to lack of support.
May 17th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
I gaurantee if we had averaged 25 points a for the game for the last 6 years our record would’ve been much different. With the same DC and defense.
May 17th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Teams without great balance win one SB maybe and fade away. The Bears, Ravens and Bucs. Great teams wit balance win several, Broncos, 49ers, Steelers, Patriots, Raiders, Redskins and so one.
You must be balanced..
May 17th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
buttholeprik
is it true that you told all the fans on this blog that you work for the raider orginization 
On the last blog you were a secret agent for the CIA 
The blog before that you were a heart surgeon 
What exactly did you tell these folks your position with the raiders 
(This should be a good one) 
May 17th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
buttholeprik
I’m waiting to see what lie you told these people 
On the last blog WE proved that you worked for Tupperware 
May 17th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
buttholeprik
If and the key word is IF, you 
truly do work for the raider orginization it’s pretty obvious that it has only been for the last 6 years 
May 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Hey look I owe you guys nothing,…yes my world is crashing around me, and those close to me know this,…I wish I could fix things,…I smoke too much pot,..pop too many pills,..drink too much,…Im sorry i that stresses some of you out,…Im not perfect, Im flawed,…as a matter of fact Im popping Norcos as I type,…please dont ridicule me for being human. Go Raiders.
May 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Nobodys perfect Norco Bob and it dosent bother me.And you usually have all the good info anyway =)
May 17th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Norco,
You don’t stress me out, and you don’t owe me anything!!
Listen to me bro, I lived it all!!! Homeless, no food, stress, drugs( I still smoke, it helps the pain in my brain), alcohol , women , and religion!!! Dude, it’s not worth the stress!!! Everything comes and goes, from friends and family to money and such things!!! It’s life, it can be Cruel and sad at times, but there is a lot good in it too. It gives and it takes!!!
I wish you all the best bro.
May 17th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Norco,
If you ever want to talk, I would be more than happy to listen.
I’m not very smart ( ask R8), but like I said in the prev post. I lived it all, so maybe I can help.
May 17th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
Not interested in any of any of your crapola….I will get through my own thing by myself…I pop pills,..I smoke pot,..I drink liquor,…my cross to bare,…go Raiders.
May 17th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
another reason the stealers are constantly successful is the refs and the league totally support them.could be pay back for volunteering to join the AFC and leave the NFC when the AFL/NFL merged.
May 17th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
This one time……………at band camp
May 17th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
and while i partially agree with Priest and Oakglenn that we need better balance and in the last few years our Off. didn’t help our Def.,i still believe R.Ryan didn’t do an adequate job as DC and a lot of our problems HAVE to fall on him.too many games our Def. totally collapsed at the end of the game.and it wasn’t just against the top tier teams that Oak likes to mention-ie.the SB teams,it was against everyone we played.
May 18th, 2009 at 3:04 am
What’s up guys where are all the Laker Haters now !!!!1
Since 1979 8 NBA Championships suck on that the greatest players ever hate if you want but it always showtime in LA
May 18th, 2009 at 3:18 am
Man they hate jruss over at the Raiderbeat damn is garcia’s dad a writer.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:02 am
http://www.channelsurfing.net/
raiders v steelers 2004……nfl network
May 18th, 2009 at 5:46 am
dont listen to the haters folks. russell is comin along just fine.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80d4fa61/WK-15-JaMarcus-Russell-highlights
May 18th, 2009 at 5:48 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,HOPE EVERYONE GOT THROUJH THE WEEKEND OK…
May 18th, 2009 at 5:48 am
this vid also is speaks volumes. i watch these every night b4 i go to bed.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80d84508/WK-16-JaMarcus-Russell-highlights
May 18th, 2009 at 5:50 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Made it through the weekend, Dirt Lot, now if I can only make it through Friday again. LOL. Happy Monday everyone…
Why do I have this funny feeling that Garcia is either going to cause some waves, or is going to be the starter by week 5? Who knows, if he does give us the best cahnce to win, they be it. Russell better step his game now…
May 18th, 2009 at 5:51 am
and when i wake up, i watch this. yummy, tastes gooooooodd aint it nation?!
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-air-and-ground-players-of-the-week/09000d5d80db1052/WK-17-Michael-Bush-highlights
“we are gonne win, this team is gonna win, i promise.”
May 18th, 2009 at 6:00 am
GO LLLLAAAAKKKKERRRSSS!
Pau Gasol became a man last night.
May 18th, 2009 at 6:15 am
Hey guys…question:
I have heard somewhere that Burgess is on the trading block with NE for a second rounder? Any truth to that statement?
May 18th, 2009 at 6:19 am
G-O N-U-G-G-E-T-S
May 18th, 2009 at 6:24 am
BURGESS IS ON THE BLOCK HWNDR,PROBABLY FOR BEST OFFER. – CHICKEN NUGGETS -
May 18th, 2009 at 6:28 am
Is he the only one? I’ve been out of touch lately and I need to catch up…Chicken nuggets? Too funny!!!
May 18th, 2009 at 6:35 am
I would take a 2010 second round pick for Burgess, but not from NE. Pick will be around 60…not worth it. a pick in the 30s or 40s = bye bye Burgess.
A better scenario would be to get a good Terdell replacement at DT.
May 18th, 2009 at 6:40 am
i have to agree witt “true-blue” on that one. chaunceys nuggets in 6…
btw, true-blue, have a nice day.:).. http://www.chicagobears.com/photos/index.asp?SECTION_ID=280
May 18th, 2009 at 6:41 am
Mistabrown Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
“Priest isnt it nice to change your opinions and feelings on players after they put the uniform on? Oh, didnt you say last year it will take 8-10 weeks for our passing game to gel? Ok so now Russell needs 2 more years?”
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If last year Priest said it would take 8-10 weeks for the passing game to begin to gel then he was pretty much right on. At least when it comes to JR’s stats. Just check the last 6 games of the season, and then compare it to the first 10. The data has been posted on this blog many times in the last few weeks. Nice call Priest!
Saying it will take 2 more years, I’m pretty sure Priest was talking about JR reaching his peak. That is about right historically for QB’s in this league and JR should be compared with the same developmental timeline in mine.
May 18th, 2009 at 6:46 am
I hear you on that one, BSJ. Terdell needs to be replaced. Unless he has a very superior year…Ummm…ok
May 18th, 2009 at 6:59 am
Good pt. – 418. Many obstacles have slowed Russell’s passing development, yet he still improved significantly last year:
1. Weak, young WRs
2. Weak, young coach
3. Kwame Harris
4. Cornell Green
5. Russell is young and still “maturing”
May 18th, 2009 at 7:04 am
From NFL.com:
Al Davis has long been noted for his preference for the long ball, but this year’s version of the Raiders’ offense might force the owner to appreciate the mantra “three yards and a cloud of dust.”
Under the direction of new coach Tom Cable, the Raiders are relying on a talented stable of backs and a rebuilt offensive line to anchor a smash-mouth attack that will attempt to bludgeon opponents with the run.
Even though the Raiders have a 9-23 record over the past two years, the team has ranked in the top 10 in rushing both seasons and shown promise as one of the NFL’s top rushing attacks. Led by a three-headed monster at running back, the Raiders are capable of attacking defenses with a diverse ground game that features a balanced mixture of inside and outside runs.
Darren McFadden, the team’s top draft pick a year ago, serves as the home-run hitter in the lineup and excels at running on the perimeter. As an upright runner with a sprinter’s speed, McFadden takes the majority of his carries on outside zone plays or delayed draws. His outstanding burst allows him to quickly reach the second level, and he flashes nifty cutback ability in space.
Justin Fargas, who led the Raiders with 853 rushing yards in 2008, is a gritty, between-the-tackles runner. Though he lacks exceptional size, he is a tough, hard-nosed runner with deceptive strength and power. Fargas rarely goes down on first contact and often surprises defenders with his pop.
The wild card of the bunch is Michael Bush. The third-year pro missed all of his rookie season while recovering from a broken leg suffered in college, but he burst onto the scene last season with an eye-popping performance to close the year. Bush rushed for 177 yards and two scores against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in Week 17, displaying the smooth, gliding running style that made him a highly regarded prospect heading into his senior season at Louisville.
With three running backs capable of 100-yard games, the Raiders are wise to build their offense around the running game. This offseason, the team has added pieces around the trio, which should allow the Raiders to punish defenses at will with the ground attack.
First, the Raiders started retooling an offensive line that struggled with its consistency in the zone-based scheme last season. The Raiders jettisoned Kwame Harris and Jake Grove during the offseason and added Khalif Barnes and Samson Satele in their place.
Barnes, who spent the past four seasons starting at left tackle for the Jacksonville Jaguars, gives the Raiders an athletic edge blocker. He excels in the running game and potentially could team up with Robert Gallery to give the Raiders a dominant side to direct their rushing attack.
Satele, acquired in a trade with the Miami Dolphins, gives the Raiders a more physical presence at the pivot. Satele mauls defenders at the point and has the strength to create a consistent push up the middle. With the Raiders intent on running the ball between the tackles, Satele’s ability to control the line of scrimmage becomes critical to their success.
The Raiders also signed Erik Pears during free agency to compete with Cornell Green at right tackle. Pears, who started 26 games for the Denver Broncos over the past three seasons, understands the nuances of the zone-based scheme and should be a better fit athletically on the edge. If Pears eventually unseats Green for the position, the Raiders will sport a more physical and athletic unit in 2009.
However, the final piece to the puzzle comes in the form of hammerhead blocking fullback Lorenzo Neal. The 16-year pro has paved the way for numerous 1,000-yard backs throughout his career, and he is lauded for his ability to lead runners through small creases in the middle of the defense. With the Raiders intent on relentlessly running the ball between the tackles, the decision to add Neal to the lineup could wind up as the team’s best offseason move.
Now that the Raiders sport a beefed-up running game with outstanding potential, the team might finally see the best of quarterback JaMarcus Russell in 2009. The third-year pro has superior arm strength and is at his best when allowed to throw the ball down the field. With defenses forced to play eight-man fronts against the Raiders’ formidable rushing attack, Russell will have plenty of opportunities to take deep shots against one-on-one coverage on the outside.
This is part of the reason why Oakland opted for Maryland wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey with the seventh overall pick in the draft. Heyward-Bey gives the Raiders a legitimate deep threat on the outside.
In addition, the threat of the run brings linebackers and safeties closer to the line of scrimmage and creates bigger windows for Russell to hit tight ends and receivers over the middle. Zach Miller led the Raiders in receptions (56) last season, and he could be an even bigger factor in 2009 with the team incorporating more play-action passing.
The Raiders are by no means ready to compete with the ranks of the elite, but a renewed commitment to the run has them back on the road to respectability.
May 18th, 2009 at 7:12 am
There were some pretty good reports on Terdell, as well as Tommie Harris a week ago. I guess he’s down to his preferred playing weight and looked pretty good out there. Harris was tearing it up too, except for quite a few offsides penalties which is always a big issue for us. Something tells me our O-Line may have had something to do with them looking so good in practice, but I’m trying to stay optimistic.
Hopefully the projected 1st team O-Line gets on the field together during OTA’s, they need all the time they can get working as a unit. I guess we’ll see what CC does tomorrow.
May 18th, 2009 at 7:20 am
I wish it was Tommie Harris. Ruff, I’m pretty sure you meant Kelly.
May 18th, 2009 at 7:25 am
Whew, I was like, “When did we get Tommie Harris?” That is a good deal there if they were tearing it up. That is what we need them to do. Hopefully it does carry over and both lines learn to work as a unit.
May 18th, 2009 at 7:28 am
LOL, Harris – sorry about that, still working on my first cup of coffee.
May 18th, 2009 at 7:33 am
RuffRaider is that me meant to say?
Ok..
I love it when on a blog one guy can say what another meant. You guys have a special bromance in the making!
May 18th, 2009 at 7:37 am
Vick will be released from prison next week. woohaa!
May 18th, 2009 at 7:39 am
he*
May 18th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Man I hope we pick up Vick he would make a good third back up and flanker.
May 18th, 2009 at 7:41 am
OK, before I start getting the hate emails.
I am only kidding!
May 18th, 2009 at 7:44 am
CantStand, isnt kinda strange in the highlight reel Russell under throws a wide open Lelie for an INT and later fumbles & recovers his own fumble.
Not exactly the kind of “highlight” reel we are looking for.
May 18th, 2009 at 7:45 am
On a serious note I really hope they will consider getting both DMAC and Bush on the field att the same time. They would be awsome in a twins backfield. WIth Neal coming in rotating those two in and out as well. Watch out now!
If we have a balanced attack this year our running backs could have a big year!
May 18th, 2009 at 7:47 am
James Harrison Won’t Go To The White House. LOL
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are all the liberal Raider fans bashing this guy yet?
May 18th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Duane Starks Is Retiring
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NO! now who are we gonna get for camp fodder?
quick. somebody get Tyrone Poole & Michael Waddell on the phone!
just kidding. please don’t do that !!!
May 18th, 2009 at 7:50 am
CJ wouldnt it be nice for Fargas to enter the game when we are ahead by 21 so BUSH & DMAC can get catch a breather before the next weeks game ?
May 18th, 2009 at 7:54 am
CJ Legend 34 :
I’d take Vick as a 3rd string QB behind Russell & Garcia. He’s an upgrade over Gradkowski & Walter even if he has been out of the game for 2 years!
He can sign a cheap 1 year deal and relearn the game here under experienced QB coaches Hackett & Tollner.
We could use him in wildcat formations!
He won’t get an offer to be the starting QB anywhere, so he’ll probably just take what he can get. 3rd string QB for the Raiders probably STILL pays more than a construction job in the real world in this economy …
May 18th, 2009 at 7:55 am
Up by 21? I would have a heart attck…
Have a good day Nation!!!
May 18th, 2009 at 7:56 am
RaiderRockstar
I saw that on ESPN. His logic is so confusing I think he is really bashing himself. I don’t think it is about politics for this guy. He does not want to go because if they lost he said the President would not invite the Steelers he would have invited the Cardinals….yeah and? Of course he would not invite you! It is tradition for the President to invite the teams that win the championships to the whitehouse. What Harrison does not get is the recognition is for him and his team not the President.
I am no Bush fan has nothing to do with Republican or Democrat. I just think he did a terrible job of running the country with no accountability while lacking vision and direction. But If I was invited by Bush to the whitehouse. I would be patriotic and support my team and fans by attending.
Plus if I had as many dead Presidents as that guy in my pocket, I would try to match their faces to the photos on the white house walls. He has a collection of Democratic and Repulican Presidents in his pocket. : )
May 18th, 2009 at 7:59 am
Plus if I had as many dead Presidents as Harrison in my pocket, I would try to match their faces to the photos on the white house walls. He has a collection of Democratic and Repulican Presidents in his pocket to be “indepently” wealthy! : )
May 18th, 2009 at 8:04 am
Mistabrown Says:
May 18th, 2009 at 7:50 am
CJ wouldnt it be nice for Fargas to enter the game when we are ahead by 21 so BUSH & DMAC can get catch a breather before the next weeks game ?
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Mistabrown – Now you are talking!!!!
Not to mention I have said in this blog before. I would run Bush and DMAC like crazy and once we get a lead on a team. I would bring in Fargas late in the third and forth and run him off tackle controling the clock. As hard as Fargas runs the defense would be exhausted and he would knock the spit out of a tired defense.
They Steelers did this with Bettis in his last 3 years or so on the team and man was he ever effective. It gives a good aging back an honerable way to be productive on the team. Especially when they run as high and hard as Fargas does, they take a beating in the NFL.
May 18th, 2009 at 8:05 am
nice post BSJ #421
I can’t believe NFL.com actually wrote a positive article about the Raiders!
May 18th, 2009 at 8:11 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 18th, 2009 at 7:54 am
CJ Legend 34 :
I’d take Vick as a 3rd string QB behind Russell & Garcia. He’s an upgrade over Gradkowski & Walter even if he has been out of the game for 2 years!
He can sign a cheap 1 year deal and relearn the game here under experienced QB coaches Hackett & Tollner.
We could use him in wildcat formations!
He won’t get an offer to be the starting QB anywhere, so he’ll probably just take what he can get. 3rd string QB for the Raiders probably STILL pays more than a construction job in the real world in this economy …
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Not a bad idea to be honest. I like Vick as an athlete even though he is not that consistant, I just don’t care for his actions. Oakland has done such a great job of going out and getting high character guys I just don’t know if he fits the profile in Oakland anymore. Now I guess Cable would know if htis is true or not from his interactions with Vick in Atlanta. Now I am not sure if we can take another year dealing with the media and ESPN. You know ESPN has become the “Oakland Haters Club.”
May 18th, 2009 at 8:20 am
Offense:
QB Jeff Garcia
QB Bruce Gradkowski
QB Danny Southwick
RB Gary Russell
FB Lorenzo Neal
FB John Paul Foschi
WR Darrius Heyward-Bey
WR Louis Murphy
WR Shawn Bayes
WR Nick Miller
WR Samie Parker
TE Brandon Myers
TE Chris O’Neill
OT Khalif Barnes
OT Erik Pears
OT Marcus Johnson
OG Jonathan Compas
C Samson Satele
Defense:
DE Matt Shaughnessy
DE Stryker Sulak
DL Desmond Bryant
DT Ryan Boschetti
LB Slade Norris
LB David Nixon
LB Frantz Joseph
CB Jason Horton
SS Mike Mitchell
SS Jerome Boyd
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Please rate your TOP 10 new Raiders who make an impact in the 2009 NFL season (coaches excluded). Please rank in order with the biggest contributers on top! Thanks
May 18th, 2009 at 8:29 am
# Mistabrown Says:
May 18th, 2009 at 7:50 am
CJ wouldnt it be nice for Fargas to enter the game when we are ahead by 21 so BUSH & DMAC can get catch a breather before the next weeks game ?
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Shear genius from mistabrown here. It doesn’t take much brain power to know We are going to see much more of Bush and Dmac this year. You don’t draft a guy 4th overall and pay him tens of millions to stand around on the sidelines.
May 18th, 2009 at 8:29 am
CJ Legend 34 : Al Davis loves free publicity! He wouldn’t care if PETA tried to protest at the games. They’d get mauled by Raider fans in 2 seconds and go home. This is Oakland, not Tennessee …
besides, prison changes people. If he messes up, cut him.
I wonder if Jim Mora Jr. & Greg Knapp have their eye on him for Seattle? Matt Hasselbeck had a back injury last year. Those are tough to come back from, especially for an older QB whose team passed on Andre Smith & Eugene Monroe in the draft to bring in yet another linebacker …
May 18th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Lakers still alive!
Didn’t the Raiders have OTAs this weekend? No updates from Jerry Mac?
WTF?
May 18th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Jon Gruden is joining the MNF crew…replacing Kornheiser!!!
lol, crazy.
May 18th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Jon Gruden is joining the MNF crew…replacing Kornheiser!!!
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that should make for a great game against the dolts!
May 18th, 2009 at 8:35 am
Kornheiser stepped down because the upcoming MNF schedule would have required him to fly too much…and he hates flying.
May 18th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Too bad the Mikes are probably doing our opening game against SD. I would love to hear what Gruden thinks of the Raiders either beating SD or getting stomped once again.
May 18th, 2009 at 8:40 am
yeah. They wouldn’t give him Madden’s old bus … he’s not worthy to lick the gum off Madden’s shoe
He is to commentating as injuries are to Fargas, Walker & Burgess – annoying! all the time!
May 18th, 2009 at 8:46 am
hey, Mista, its football bro. youre gonna have those no matter who you are or what league you play.
now rewind back and read what both CC and JaMarcus outlined what they worked on every given opportunity since the last game of last season… the timing in the psasing game…footwork, timing of the release, the routes, ball placement etc etc.
look, he is a work in good process, as they are working on all those things. they are resetting the clock in his head as it is obvious it is off a little or in more famous wordss, he is adjusting to the speed of the NFL. but watch how he progesses through his reads and finds the open targets if he gets time, makes plays in those videos. and maybe listen to the commentators too if you can. now fastforward to 2010-11-12 and tell me if you cant see him become a successfull QB in the NFL. the guy is developing man, and the sky is the limit.
we will win again.
May 18th, 2009 at 8:52 am
slow weekend for NFL news.
the biggest stories are garbage CB Rod Hood looking for a new team and some 4th string RB for the Bills getting busted for showing his wang in public …
May 18th, 2009 at 8:56 am
ota`s are tuesday,wednesday,thursday.
May 18th, 2009 at 8:56 am
George Karl bashed the Lakers all year long…payback time.
May 18th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Showing his Wang in public????? HA HA HA HAA HA HA HAAAA!!!!
May 18th, 2009 at 8:58 am
The flying thing is Kornheiser’s “saving face” excuse. The fact is, he didn’t work out. And they decided to make a change.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Kobe Bryant = the Philip Rivers of the NBA
I don’t care who they play as long as they lose
May 18th, 2009 at 9:01 am
I love Monte Poole’s depiction of Jamarcus Big Pimpin’ Russle at the Ward fight on Saturday night. True, I think the article is unfair, and I hope everybody eats their words in regards to #2. But, it’s still kinda funny.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:01 am
Swine Flu more than Kornheiser did …
May 18th, 2009 at 9:03 am
ota`s are tuesday,wednesday,thursday.
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thanks for the info blackdeath29. should make Jerry’s live chat on tuesday a little more interesting …
May 18th, 2009 at 9:04 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
Jon Gruden is joining the MNF crew…replacing Kornheiser!!!
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that should make for a great game against the dolts!
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From Kornheiser to Kornholer.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Philip Rivers won 3 Super Bowls and went to five of them?
May 18th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Morning Nation!!!!
Whats good….
OTA’s around the corner!!!!!!
May 18th, 2009 at 9:07 am
OTAs coming up this week then…good. Someone claimed they were happening this past weekend. Muthafukin liars!
May 18th, 2009 at 9:07 am
any one have the link to the big pimpin artical????
May 18th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Philip Rivers became an NFL quarterback straight out of high school?
May 18th, 2009 at 9:12 am
cavs vs la
cavs win in 6………..
mouth from the sount < bean bryant
May 18th, 2009 at 9:14 am
The Bulls should trade Brad Miller, Tim Thomas, Loul Deng, Ben Gordon and Derrick Rose in exchange for Kobe Bryant.
If that’s not enough, throw in a 1st round pick …
If that happened I’d root for the Lakers!
May 18th, 2009 at 9:16 am
morning OAKlifer. how’s it going brother?
May 18th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Gruden is a HUGE improvement over Korn I thought he was good on NFLN during the draft.
Korn always sucked imo.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:16 am
I take that trade, lol.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Korn always sucked imo.
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May 18th, 2009 at 9:19 am
What’s wrong with a guy going to a boxing match? The media is so critical of the Raiders, JRUSS in particular. So what if he enjoys himself on a Saturday night? And as far as what they described him to be wearing, a Yankees hat, and a designer backpack, with an unlit cigar in his mouth, honestly, that’s pretty modest for Russell. If Poole thinks that was bad he should check out a couple his post game pressers. At least he wasn’t wearing a fur coat and stunna’ shades to the fight.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Another good coach up in a t.v. booth while we have Tom Cable on our sideline…. Great.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:21 am
is that fair trade………
Mornin Double R,
Life is good….
korn > gruden…..imo
Gruden did a good job durning the draft but I see him as a homer in the booth…We will know who he wants to win every week to much passion with that guy…
May 18th, 2009 at 9:21 am
At least he wasn’t wearing a fur coat and stunna’ shades to the fight.
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or spraying the crowd with dom perignon !!!
May 18th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Russell could dress like Dennis Rodman for all I care, as long as he keeps improving and starts winning some games.
If not, well, he is only embarrassing himself.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Are they doing our monday night game? The season opener? That’s usually a double header. If so, I can’t watch. I can’t watch SD just pick us apart while Gruden is calling the game, knowing he was available this off season.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Is it redneck hour in here this morning? If so, I’ll come back later when educated people, living in the 21st century, are here.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Rob Ryan & Tony Korny both were in their respective positions far too long.
Amen
May 18th, 2009 at 9:25 am
“as long as he’s not wearing that there fur coat and bling, dug her her”
May 18th, 2009 at 9:25 am
LOL……
Another good coach up in a t.v. booth while we have Tom Cable on our sideline…. Great.
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Think you meant MEDIOCORE coach in the booth……If it wasnt for Gannon, Gruden would have never got a shot with the Bucs…And if it werent for Dungy he would have lost that job years ago aswell….Gruden = good coordinator Thats about it…
May 18th, 2009 at 9:26 am
That fat bitch who made the girl kill herself on myspace is about to be sentenced.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:26 am
OAKlifer Says:
May 18th, 2009 at 9:21 am
is that fair trade………
Mornin Double R,
Life is good….
korn > gruden…..imo
Gruden did a good job durning the draft but I see him as a homer in the booth…We will know who he wants to win every week to much passion with that guy…
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Could be worse, could be Shanarat.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Did Obama fire Tony Korny or did MNF do this on their own ?
May 18th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Nope, the normal MNF crew is doing the Bills-Pats game…we get the scrubs…probably Mike and Mike.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Unfortunately, Gruden won’t be in the booth for our MNF game in September. They’re going to put in the B team for the second game. Which is going to be the other Mike & Mike, I believe. And Voldemort, you’re 100% right. I don’t want it to seem like I agree with Poole, because I don’t. I’ve just always been amused by his one man war against the Raiders.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:26 am
or spraying the crowd with dom perignon !!!
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genious!!!!!
May 18th, 2009 at 9:26 am
I don’t think Gruden and Co. will call our game. We have the late game, so we will probably have a different announcing crew.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Gruden did a good job durning the draft but I see him as a homer in the booth…
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don’t know about him being a homer with the Bucsm even though he won a championship there. Most everyone from that team credits Tony Dungy for building that team from scratch and taking it to the next level. Just like Gruden did in Oakland before Callahan took over. Plus the players hate him there and the owner tossed him and Bruce Allen to the street. Not sure how much love he has for Tampa right now. We TRADED him there. It’s not like he was dumped by Oakland and chose TB over many other teams that were interested. Al Davis is the one who gave him the chance to become an NFL Head Coach. he won a lot of football games here. He speaks highly of Davis and the Raiders. If he’s a homer for any team, it’s probably the Raiders and not the Bucs. just a hunch
May 18th, 2009 at 9:27 am
OAKlifer,
Who was the last Raider coach to win two consecutive division championships? Yeh, that’s mediocre. Please learn something about football before jumping into the conversation.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:28 am
MB, I hope Obama throws Al Davis out of the NFL. I wouldn’t care one bit.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:30 am
I can listen to Mike and Mike. They’ll rip Al Davis the whole game, while we’re getting blasted on the field. That’s fine by me. I just couldn’t handle hearing Chucky’s voice and seeing that worthless puppet Tom Cable on our sideline. Way too depressing. Mike and Mike will work.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Did Obama fire Tony Korny or did MNF do this on their own ?
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no way. thats much too big of a task for him. he’s probably trying to shut down some cheese factory in wisconsin.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:31 am
LMAO, MR must be off his meds.
He is trying to think up the most obnoxious comments possible so we will argue with him. MR hasn’t been stable since Cable’s team knocked Gruden’s team (resoundingly) out of the playoffs.
Sick loser thrives on abuse… has no self worth, and wants us to reinforce it.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Sorry, MB, it just so happens the president of the US is a little higher on the pecking order than a failing NFL owner.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:33 am
If he’s a homer for any team, it’s probably the Raiders and not the Bucs. just a hunch
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Not even inpaticular Double R,
I just think week to week we would be able to tell who he wanted to win liked/disliked more than others…He has alot of passion to be up in that booth..imo And I agree I think he has a bitter taste for the Bucs and thatsa the type of stuff that would seep throu his persona…
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I hope Al has Barrack VETO MR……
May 18th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Rockstar, it might upset you when Obama throws Al Davis out of the NFL, but a lot of us will enjoy the winning.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:37 am
new post up
May 18th, 2009 at 9:45 am
It’s a great week to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
Gruden to MNF? Great move for him and for the network…but he’s no Madden — no Everyman — and the world will find out soon enough. Without his trademark scowl, he’s just another boring analyst now.
Gruden will ditch the network for the first big college head coaching job offer to come his way…NFL teams aren’t likely to hire his “larger than life” personality to be an assistant coach — too much of a distraction. HC or nothing for Gruden…and unless he gets to replace one of next season’s early NFL firings, he’ll be at college soon enough.
Speaking of distractions…
Anybody truly thinking Vick would be a good addition to this team is off their rocker. Think about just a few things like
1. the distractions from football;
2. the distractions from football;
C. what if Vick beat-out JaMarcus? Ready for Vick to be the face of YOUR franchise?
No, I don’t think Vick can win the job immediately. But, six months of football later, Vick is going to be a good player again. Not great — he never was.
Why bring a never-was-great QB to a team that already has a never-was-great veteran QB on it in Garcia?
Garcia’s capable enough for his role as professional backup to push Russell — adding Vick to the mix instantly sets this team back to Step-1 in it’s QB quest.
No way to Vick. No way, no how.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:52 am
HayesDaze, it was a great week to be a Raider fan in like 2001.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Offense:
QB Jeff Garcia
–>brings knowlege, experienced sounding board for our franchise QB, solid backup
RB Gary Russell
FB Lorenzo Neal
FB John Paul Foschi
–>power
WR Darrius Heyward-Bey
WR Louis Murphy
WR Samie Parker
–>speed
TE Brandon Myers
TE Chris O’Neill
–>toughness
OT Khalif Barnes
OT Erik Pears
OT Marcus Johnson
C Samson Satele
–>they bring power, better protection/time in the passing game, are young, experienced with the potential to eventually replace Green and Carlisle. i like this group. they could all start in the near future (Johnson for Carlisle)
Defense:
DE Matt Shaughnessy
DE Stryker Sulak
–>Stryker pressuring QBs while Nessy setting the edges
DL Desmond Bryant
DT Ryan Boschetti
–>one is practice-squad bound with great potential and the other brings hustle
LB Slade Norris
LB David Nixon
LB Frantz Joseph
–>anyone who replaces Sam Williams should be an upgrade
SS Mike Mitchell
SS Jerome Boyd
–>pain
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wow, there could be 8-9 starters in this offseason additions. we basically went for need everywhere
thats why it was hard to grade RRS so I just went down the list and broke it down to the positions with the guys I think could stick and help
May 18th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Can’t Stand
Post 421 last paragraph says it best: we are not yet ready to compete against elite NFL teams.
My optimistic side says that we are building the team from the outside in with elite skill talent as a result of our high draft positions. Next year as we approach 8-8 will will focus on line talent to finish the puzzle and become a playoff caliber team.
Today’s reality is that Mitchell is a DB and will not impact our poor run defense.
Kelly,Sands,Warren,Joseph and Boschetti are castoffs and under achievers and Marshall can only hope we can control the ball on offense more than we did last year.
We have some promise at DE but they are projects and Burgess is hurt too often to be considered a force.
Barnes, Satele and Pears were all deemed expendable by other NFL teams. We may be bit better than last year especially with Neal but we will get dominated by strong defensive lines.
The Patriots, Steelers, Colts, Chargers and Titans invested about 70% of their first and second round picks on the offensive and defensive lines.
Until we do that we will not materially change the face of this team.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:44 am
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May 21st, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Whats with JaMarcus?? From what I hear from an inside source he thinks he’s the second coming. He does NOT understand the system, has NO work ethic, will call Stabler when HE HAS time this kid has a lot to LEARN.
Good idea bringing in Garcia maybe he will beat JaMarcus out a the ripe old age of 40 and make JaMarcus think about what went wrong. Get off your butt JaMarcus and step up your work ethic A LOT!!!
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