Raiders live chat to be held Thursday
By Jon Becker
Tuesday, May 19th, 2009 at 8:33 am in Oakland Raiders.
Jerry McDonald will field questions in his weekly “Inside the Raiders” live chat this Thursday, at the conclusion of the Raiders’ three-day organized team activity in Alameda.
Media will be allowed at the Wednesday session only.
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May 19th, 2009 at 8:37 am
hello
May 19th, 2009 at 8:39 am
Trade Burgess!!!!
May 19th, 2009 at 8:45 am
Can we get Ron Brace?
May 19th, 2009 at 8:47 am
Ron Brace for Burgess? We’d need to wear a mask for that trade!
May 19th, 2009 at 8:48 am
SnB Defense :
yes! trade Burgess & Walter to NE in exchange for Brace!
May 19th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Braveheartraider Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 8:47 am
Ron Brace for Burgess? We’d need to wear a mask for that trade!
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LOL!!!!
May 19th, 2009 at 8:50 am
On 3rd and long it’d be nice to have Trevor AND Burgess coming off the edge
May 19th, 2009 at 8:52 am
You know if they really want Burgess then we could throw in Sands as well. They need pass rushers, we need beef (NOt Sands I’m afaid). They get Burgess and a DT. I’d rather have Brace than a Pick
May 19th, 2009 at 8:56 am
Trade Burgess and Yvonne to NE for a 7th rounder…
May 19th, 2009 at 8:57 am
Much has been said about Russell’s laid back demeanor, maybe that he’s too laid back. I couldn’t help but notice that the guy who won this season’s ‘Survivor’ is from Alabama. When he speaks, he sounds exactly like JRuss. Not just in accent, but in the slow cadence and drawl. Even though he became well respected, he was underrated at first. The point being, I think that people like us on the West Coast aren’t accustomed to hearing the Southern fried way of communicating. And, because of that we sometimes make assumptions that aren’t always accurate.
May 19th, 2009 at 8:59 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 8:56 am
Trade Burgess and Yvonne to NE for a 7th rounder…
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lol
I’d like to get rid of Yvonne but, you’re right, it would bring down the value of what we’d get in return since he has negative value.
May 19th, 2009 at 9:01 am
Four days later, having fully processed the mini-camp and perhaps sensing Russell is vulnerable to a challenge, Garcia seemed less concerned with incumbent status than the needs and goals of the team.
“I’m not going to say that things can’t change, and I understand that the role I have basically assumes going in Oakland knowing that JaMarcus was drafted to be the starting quarterback there,” Garcia told host Chris Myers. “But I think there has to be some realization at some point as to putting the best players on the field that are going to give you the best chance to win.
“Now if JaMarcus is that guy, then he definitely deserves to be on the field and should be on the field. But if for some reason with what I bring as a player, from a competitive nature and just the intensity and emotion that I bring to the field and the knowledge of the game that I have — if that gives us a better chance to win football games, then that decision is going to have to be left up to the coach, and hopefully he can make the right decision for the team.”
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Wow took Garcia all of 3days to make his true intentions known , mentor yeah right
May 19th, 2009 at 9:08 am
trade Javon Walker, Justin Fargas, Derrick Burgess and Andrew Walter to the Patriots in exchange for DT Vince Wilfork !
that would boost morale BIG TIME …
May 19th, 2009 at 9:10 am
NoMoreFargas,
There is a reason why Garcia is on his 6th team right now. Wonder why Minnesota and San Fran didn’t give him a call.
He’s a backup QB who can fill in if there is an injury.
May 19th, 2009 at 9:11 am
If Russell can’t stand up to the challenge little Jeff Garcia is issuing to him, well, then he isn’t made of the right stuff anyhow.
Russell can either cry about Garcia or work hard to secure his starting spot. Either way we find out more about our QB than if we had not signed Garcia.
Keep pushing him Jeff. Russell will either get tougher and better or you will speed up his demise which might save us a couple more years of waiting on something that just isn’t there.
May 19th, 2009 at 9:13 am
RaiderRockstar,
No way the Pats trade Vince Wilfork…LOL…..
Andrew Walter will be out of the league next year…he just doesn’t know it yet.
Javon Walker is on the “out of the league next year” watch too!
Fargas…maybe a 6th rounder if there is an injury somewhere. He’s what 29…30…and injury proned…
May 19th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Keep pushing him Jeff. Russell will either get tougher and better or you will speed up his demise which might save us a couple more years of waiting on something that just isn’t there.
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couldn’t agree more. if JR puts the effort in it, works hard and shows leadership theres no reason why he shouldn’t be able to fend off Garcia. He’s 100 times more physically gifted and he’ll have every chance to prove he’s got what it takes
May 19th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Per PFT, Chuckie screwed over the NFL network by reneging on an agreement to be their color man on the NFL games. Only the signature was lacking. LOL
May 19th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Garcia is small, old and injury-prone. Great qualifications. Give him an extention. LOL
May 19th, 2009 at 9:21 am
SnB Defense : whats next? are you going to tell us that there is no Santa Claus?
come on man. let us enjoy the thought of bolstering the d-line and unloading injury prone, disgruntled or untalented scholarship players at the same time to a team that we all loathe …
May 19th, 2009 at 9:21 am
ottocrat
I always thought J-Russ sounded like Elvis.
Gotta be a better voice for the huddle than Garcia’s
May 19th, 2009 at 9:24 am
I saw Gruden answering some NFL questions on SportsCenter this morning. He was impressive!
May 19th, 2009 at 9:25 am
repost:
Dakota Says:
May 18th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
alisgod Says:
May 18th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
It’s amazing how some of you still refuses to blame Kiffin for bringing in Hall. Sure Al signed off on it but it DOESNT REMOVE THE FACT THAT KIFFIN LOBBIED FOR HIM.
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Is that really a fact? Post the link that says that.
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http://www.sbreport.net/raider_news/008/267.html
The quote:
His transition from Atlanta has been a smooth one, and Hall talked about his head coach’s involvement in getting him in Silver & Black.
“It’s been cool. Kiffin was a big part of me coming out here. He was the middle man between Al Davis and my agent, definitely a move he wanted to make on this team.”
May 19th, 2009 at 9:28 am
severeraider,
I responded to that on the last thread.
May 19th, 2009 at 9:29 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Per PFT, Chuckie screwed over the NFL network by reneging on an agreement to be their color man on the NFL games. Only the signature was lacking. LOL
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I saw that too…although I suspect that NFLN did actually sign him and then traded him to ESPN for an announcer to be named later.
I also wonder what Bruce Allen is up to these days.
May 19th, 2009 at 9:29 am
severeraider,
Actually, it was on the second to last thread. Thanks.
May 19th, 2009 at 9:30 am
I dont care about JR’s slow drawl or accent. My problem with JR is his flashyness. As a fan its a blatant disrespect to be sittin up there at the post presser smiling with a white fur coat, shades and covered in gaudy bling when your team just had their as handed to them. If anything it just sends the wrong message.
Anybody ever notice how this guy takes his helmet off during the game and the guy has 5 ct earings on. Dude you cant take that crap off for the game. Are you scared one of your team mates is going to jack you.
The guy just comes off as a clown.
May 19th, 2009 at 9:32 am
I also wonder what Bruce Allen is up to these days.
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I heard Rich Snead was on his way out. It’d be nice to have BA back in Oakland, but after he bolted here last time to join Chuckie in Tampa Bay i’m not sure Al Davis trusts him.
May 19th, 2009 at 9:34 am
raidertay
You just have to hope the guy matures and realises what an opportunity he’s got.
That said there’s been many a bust in the NFL.
I dont care how he looks , what he wears, just if he wins.
May 19th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Dakota,
my bad didnt see it.
Go Lakers tonight…..LA in six
May 19th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Matt Ryan is already known for his work habits.
I dont know if its true, but I heard that when Matt first got to ATL he bought TVs for each player’s locker so guys can watch more film.
May 19th, 2009 at 9:35 am
RaiderRockstar,
Hey, maybe Burgess and “our” 3rd rounder in 2010 for Ron Brace….Hell…upgrade that to “our “2nd rounder” in 2010.
Then we can say Santa exists…
May 19th, 2009 at 9:38 am
I was also pissed at JR for wearing the Willie Joe Namath outfit with fur & bling after we lost. the dude was dressed for new years wth George Clinton right after getting his ass whooped. WTF is that about?
May 19th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Organizations develop young players…when you look at the Raiders recent history…with top draft picks…they have all busted out with the exception of Thomas Howard and Nnamdi Asomugha….why???
Coaching changes…bad fit…no development process…no veteran leadership (not the free agent type)…and on and on and on…
right now the pressure is on the Raiders. Way too many high round busts….all those players can’t be bad…its the organization. Hopefully Cable can fix it!
May 19th, 2009 at 9:42 am
I agree Braveheartraider. I realize that Joe Namith and Michael Irving wore fur coats on the sideline. Win a Superbowl and then you can wear whatever the hell you want.
May 19th, 2009 at 9:47 am
SnB Defense Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Organizations develop young players…when you look at the Raiders recent history…with top draft picks…they have all busted out with the exception of Thomas Howard and Nnamdi Asomugha….why???
Coaching changes…bad fit…no development process…no veteran leadership (not the free agent type)…and on and on and on…
right now the pressure is on the Raiders. Way too many high round busts….all those players can’t be bad…its the organization. Hopefully Cable can fix it!
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SNB we have had some crazy stuff going on on the Raider Ship but you know what. These guys are professionals some of them have had crazier things happen in their lives and guess what they survive! They won championships at the college levels and they have trophies sitting around their Mom’s house. Players bust all the time and I don’t think it makes a diffrence if you are a professional ball player with talent. We just need to win! If we win players stay and we attract good players. Now Al did not help firing a coach each year or other year but lets be honest they were terrible hires in the first place. Al’s most arrogant mistake was letting Chucky go! Gruden was a good coach! He was a players coach man.
Will see what the Cable man does for us.
May 19th, 2009 at 9:48 am
JR we all know you have money, and we are happy for you, but do you have to slap us in the face with it.
Oakland fans are gritty and all they care about is winning. I dont think they will put up with JR’s act for long. If we stumble out the gate I think they will boo his fat as and call for Garcia.
May 19th, 2009 at 9:53 am
raidertay
You are a clown JAM is awesome he is the king man, he is my hero!!!!!!
OK – I am joking. I would not go as far as calling the guy a clown and this is America so he can wear what he wants to under our flag but it would be nice if they were winning to be dressed in all bling!
Not all the QBs in the NFL dress like that but for him and Joe Namath that is there thing man. : )
May 19th, 2009 at 9:56 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 9:32 am
I also wonder what Bruce Allen is up to these days.
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I heard Rich Snead was on his way out. It’d be nice to have BA back in Oakland, but after he bolted here last time to join Chuckie in Tampa Bay i’m not sure Al Davis trusts him.
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Snead = scout, Allen = contracts guy
May 19th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Willie Joe weared the fur outside, sitting on the Jets Bench. JR wore the fur inside on a press conference. No need to compare their resumes, just their different understanding of where and when to wear a fur coat.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:02 am
I wish we had Jeff Garcia in 07 & 08 to mentor Russell instead of McCown, Culpepper, Walter & Tui …
speaking of clowns!
May 19th, 2009 at 10:04 am
After the Tampa game (which was coincidentally his best game of the season) I saw him aftewards just wearing a Tshirt and ball cap. Looking real casual. I thought maybe this dude is starting to get it.
Then I hear about him at the Ward fight blinged out with a stogie. Do you think hit lit that stogie up after the game right after OTAs.
Maybe its not a big deal and I am just over reacting, but I dont think its coincidental that after watching JR for a few days in OTAs, Garcia now thinks that he may be the best QB for this team.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:07 am
if Russell has an ounce of pride and he flips on the TV, reads a newpaper or browses the web and hears all these people calling him a fat, lazy, inaccurate bust with terrible pocket awareness, footwork and leadership skills he should so something about it …
If he doesn’t care what the coaches or fans think and just decides to go through the motions he will be very unpopular in Oakland. He’ll be just what America hates. another bum looking for a free ride. a thief who strikes it rich.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:08 am
You think most Raider fans are getting it that nobody wants walters their is this belief that he is some stud he ain’t but you hear people say he was handled wrong yeah he should have never been drafted!!!
May 19th, 2009 at 10:08 am
TMZ reports that Todd Marinovich is about to become a father. About to graduate drug rehab, again.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:09 am
I dont even think Michael Irvin would wear diamonds during the game.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:11 am
RaiderTay,
Quite frankly if Russell doesn’t pan out…the Raiders are in DEEP DEEP DEEP TROUBLE! You can’t win in this league with journeyman QBs. Teams in the NFL do not give up on Qbs with talent. Kurt Warner is an aberation and Kerry Collins is no answer in Tennessee.
The Raiders have to develop the quarterback. The team has not done itself any favors by not getting Russell signed on time for training camp and surrounding him with C-Level talent for most of his first year. The coaching and system changes would try the capabilities of a seasoned veteran.
Russell has to do the things that successfull QBs do. I assume he’s doing them. With that, the Raiders organization has to do a much better job creating an environment where a young QB can succeed. That also goes for running backs, receivers, safeties and left tackles!
May 19th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Rockstar,
I don’t think Russell spends his time reading opinions of fans and media. Bet that was advice from Al Davis…LOL…
Truth is the only opinions that really matter are those of his coaches and teammates. The Raiders are a closed organization. they don’t let media in much and players are also shielded from the media. I bet they aren’t encouraged to talk either.
So, until we see the product on the field, its hard to go off the opinions of media folks who have only a little more insight than you or me.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Dakota,
Jerry West stated he thought LaBron was a better player than Kobe even though Kobe was his draft pick. Talk about lighting a fuse.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:18 am
SnB Defense Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:11 am
The Raiders have to develop the quarterback. The team has not done itself any favors by not getting Russell signed on time for training camp and surrounding him with C-Level talent for most of his first year. The coaching and system changes would try the capabilities of a seasoned veteran.
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The Raiders have to develop the quarterback? Wasn’t he a first round draft pick? Didn’t he sign (at the time) the highest contract for a 1st rounder? Shouldn’t he be devolped already? Where and when does the natural athlete come into play on this? Not just the RAIDERS
May 19th, 2009 at 10:19 am
SnB Defense Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:11 am
The Raiders have to develop the quarterback. The team has not done itself any favors by not getting Russell signed on time for training camp and surrounding him with C-Level talent for most of his first year. The coaching and system changes would try the capabilities of a seasoned veteran.
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The Raiders have to develop the quarterback? Wasn’t he a first round draft pick? Didn’t he sign (at the time) the highest contract for a 1st rounder? Shouldn’t he be devolped already? Where and when does the natural athlete come into play on this? Not just the RAIDERS fault he wasn’t signed in time. Great players make average players BETTER or great. Look at Michael Jordan for example. The coaching and system changes are PART OF THE GAME, ASK ANY SEASONED VETERAN.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Dont get me wrong I truly hope that JR come through they guy has the most talent Ive ever seen in a QB. The NFL is about winning now. There are some things you just cant teach and a passion for the game is one of them.
I really hope he come through, but my gut tells me that the guy just doesnt care about being a bust and he would be content going back to New Orleans (cheapest City in the Country) and never having to work again.
I hope Im wrong.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Yeah I we know how biased their insight is SnB.
I’d wager the opinions on this blog are more valid than BSPN and others.
What Russell needs to take on board is that he was a No.1 pick with bags of potential. He cant do it all tho. I’ll tell you this tho, if at the end of this season he hasn’t produced the media and a lot of fans will be all over him like a cheep fur coat!
May 19th, 2009 at 10:21 am
until we see the product on the field, its hard to go off the opinions of media folks who have only a little more insight than you or me.
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Why is it that we read articles from guys like Jerry Mac & David White? because they have sources we don’t have. The only thing we know about Russell since Week 16 last year comes from these guys. They saw Russell in camp. We didn’t. All we know is what they write. They could say “McFadden is on the trade block” and we’d believe it. We rely on them for information. If we didn’t care about the Raiders, except for Sept-Dec none of us would be here right now.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Don’t care what ANYONE says, fur coats on guys just isn’t right.. It’s like a dude wearing a thong.
I just described MR’s wardrobe.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:23 am
I prefer haggis myself
May 19th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Feels good against the skin
May 19th, 2009 at 10:24 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Why is it that we read articles from guys like Jerry Mac & David White? because they have sources we don’t have. The only thing we know about Russell since Week 16 last year comes from these guys. They saw Russell in camp. We didn’t. All we know is what they write. They could say “McFadden is on the trade block” and we’d believe it. We rely on them for information. If we didn’t care about the Raiders, except for Sept-Dec none of us would be here right now.
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I take what ANY media hack (especially Jerry) has to say about the Raiders with a very small grain of salt.
I actually come on this blog to read the posts of us members who are much more insightful about the Raiders than tubby boy himself Jerry “I eat at” McDonald(s).
May 19th, 2009 at 10:24 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:02 am
I wish we had Jeff Garcia in 07 & 08 to mentor Russell instead of McCown, Culpepper, Walter & Tui …
speaking of clowns!
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I think that is the biggest problem with his development man. The blind can’t lead the blind. Does anyone recall how horrible Aikman’s first three years were? Until the young Cowboys developed man. Aikman use to get sacked to submission.
I think Raider fans have raised the bar to high on JAM. I am not making excuses for him but he is not in a great system in Oakland for a QB. The one good thing he has going for him is a solid tightend and hopefully run game next year.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:27 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:24 am
I think Raider fans have raised the bar to high on JAM.
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Yeah, how dare any of us expect greatness from a first round draft pick with one of the strongest arms to ever toss the pigskin in the NFL. Lets just raise the bar low and settle for mediocrity. fuk man.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Einstein,
Very few QBs come out of the gates performing at a high level. Sure, Russell has to show improvement this year but this is also a guy that threw 13tds with 8 Ints so its not like he was a disaster last year.
He has to progress like any high round pick should have too. But what I don’t understand is this “sky is falling” outlook with the guy. It would seem this would be the talk if he threw 20 or 30 INts last year.
Like the idea Garcia might/should see the field. Garcia has no more chance of seeing the field as J.T O’Sullivan does in Cincy
May 19th, 2009 at 10:31 am
SnB:
Agreed the sky isn’t falling, and he did have a decent season, and agreed it was only his first season as a starter. But he needs to step up to the plate. The QB is and should be the team general, the leader that everyone looks up to and follows into battle regardless of the situation. Can you honestly say the JMac fits that role?
May 19th, 2009 at 10:31 am
“The Raiders didn’t throw long because they got Lamonica, they got Lamomica cause they wanted to throw long!”
Russell was a 1st pick, and although they dont all pan out, everything we heard (media again), and a few actually saw, was his potential to be the QB of the future.
Most of you guys can forward a better run-down of the raiders but personell wise I gotta go with the so-called expert scouts.
This may be Al’s last roll of the dice and as critical as I am of him I got a gut feeling that he’s going to be proved right about Russell.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:33 am
“Greatness isn’t taught, it’s either a part of you or it isn’t”……
May 19th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Garcia has no more chance of seeing the field as J.T O’Sullivan does in Cincy
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I think it’s more like Todd Collins in Washington behind Jason Campbell …
May 19th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Einstein Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:19 am
SnB Defense Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:11 am
The Raiders have to develop the quarterback. The team has not done itself any favors by not getting Russell signed on time for training camp and surrounding him with C-Level talent for most of his first year. The coaching and system changes would try the capabilities of a seasoned veteran.
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The Raiders have to develop the quarterback? Wasn’t he a first round draft pick? Didn’t he sign (at the time) the highest contract for a 1st rounder? Shouldn’t he be devolped already? Where and when does the natural athlete come into play on this? Not just the RAIDERS fault he wasn’t signed in time. Great players make average players BETTER or great. Look at Michael Jordan for example. The coaching and system changes are PART OF THE GAME, ASK ANY SEASONED VETERAN.
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Einstein – I respectfully disagree.
There are not many athletes that walk into a bad system and totally elivate the team. There has to be a system that fits that athlete. Jordan did not come into Chicago and take them to the playoffs his 1st year or second year it took some time. Actually it took some coaching to trust his team enough to make them great.
Even when Big Ben took the Steelers to the Superbowl his first year. He said the system got him there. He had veteran leadership, a “great defense” and he had a very basic number of passes he had to throw. In his first Superbowl he did not have a great game but the team around him made some great plays in Detroit that day.
Now the Big Ben that played the Cardinals in the Superbowl had all the confidence in the world and made some amazing passes.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:35 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:02 am
I wish we had Jeff Garcia in 07 & 08 to mentor Russell instead of McCown, Culpepper, Walter & Tui …
speaking of clowns!
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Mentors are good and all, but QB develoment are the sole responbility of the Coaches, not other players.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:37 am
CJ Legend is right. Most of you have to calm the fook down. Russell has what, 16 NFL starts?? And he has been decent. Not great, not terrible. And he has very mediocre players around him. You can’t compare Russell to Matt Ryan or Flacco or even Mark Sanchez because those guys went to teams that were winning. You have to compare him to other overall number one or number two picks. Like Alex Smith, David Carr or Joey Harrington. Or Ryan Leaf, or Troy Aikman. Or Vince Young. Even NY Giant fan was about to run Eli Manning out of town, and the Giants traded up to get Manning and were 10-6 two years before they drafted him. When was the last time we were 10-6? You get very green Q’s and put them on very bad teams, the chances for success are not good. Leave Russell alone. He’s not the problem.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:38 am
CJ
Ben and JaMarcus aren’t the same QB, not even close, never will be. Bad analogy my brother. Different systems, different teams, different styles, I don’t see the comparison or example in your statement.
I agree JMarcus needs time to develop, players around him, and a system. But, I will say this again, does JMarcus display the desire or leadership abilities to be a team leader, a field general, a captain of an NFL team?
May 19th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Einstein Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:33 am
“Greatness isn’t taught, it’s either a part of you or it isn’t”……
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Sounds good in a motivational speech it almost sounds like one of those “pull yourself up by your own boot straps lines”. Sounds real cool but not really true. Greatness can be taught if someone is open to learn and you become great by practice. Now talent is a gift , which can not be taught my friend. I think you are refering to talent.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:39 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:02 am
I wish we had Jeff Garcia in 07 & 08 to mentor Russell instead of McCown, Culpepper, Walter & Tui …
speaking of clowns!
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Since when was it the responsibility of the players to develop players?
May 19th, 2009 at 10:42 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Greatness can be taught if someone is open to learn and you become great by practice.
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That is the point I was trying to make, not sure why I just didn’t say that.
Thats all I want from JaMarcus, but seriously, has he displayed this yet?
May 19th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Einstein Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:31 am
SnB:
Agreed the sky isn’t falling, and he did have a decent season, and agreed it was only his first season as a starter. But he needs to step up to the plate. The QB is and should be the team general, the leader that everyone looks up to and follows into battle regardless of the situation. Can you honestly say the JMac fits that role?
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I don’t put too much stock in the media comments. I think Russell is a leader in that lockerroom. Earlier I posted some comments of encouragement to Mario Henderson that was effective. He also lobbied Cable to get McFadden in the game more. He doesn’t whine and b^tch to the media or try to be an advertising machine. Schilens and Higgins have had comments about working with Russell.
Ultimately it will be on the field. The Raiders run a clandestine operation when it comes to media so its hard to know what’s really going on behind the fence. The Raiders shield the players from the media, don’t let the coordinators do interviews, rarely hear from the owner etc…..
Russell has to improve this year. But so does Flacco and Ryan for that matter. Trent Edwards is feeling some heat in Buffalo. Its the nature of the position.
If the Raiders have a sound plan, the coaches work with Russell and the team and everyone works hard…this team will be successfull. But if they listen to the media and try to manufacture drama where it doesn’t exist…then there could be problems
May 19th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Look, it’s simple. JaMarcus simply needs to take the fur coat off and MAN UP this year. That’s it, plain and simple.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:45 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:33 am
I think it’s more like Todd Collins in Washington behind Jason Campbell …
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If Russell is performing at Campbell’s level after 4yrs in the league…then I would expect the discussion of benching him etc…just not after his first year with a training camp behind him.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Oakglenn,
Russell just needs to take the next step this year. Early indications just doesnt sound good. Al I want is the guy to give it his all out there and put in the time. If he did all that and was still a bust, I wouldnt even be mad at him.
Its not conincidental that the best players are the hardest workers: Rice, Jordan, Kobe.
Guys with all the talent and not the work will only get you so far. Vick looked good for a few years, but it was obvious that he wasnt putting in the work. He didnt progress during his career. Despite the dog crap.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Einstein Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:39 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:02 am
I wish we had Jeff Garcia in 07 & 08 to mentor Russell instead of McCown, Culpepper, Walter & Tui …
speaking of clowns!
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Since when was it the responsibility of the players to develop players?
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Einstein, in general I agree with you here. The coaches are the ones responsible for development. But what a “good” veteran can do is show the good habits and offer advice.
But your point is well taken. Brett Favre didn’t do Aaron Rogers any favors when Rogers was on the bench.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:48 am
My issues with JMac could simply be me and my personal opinions (which I’m sure it is). Personally “I” think a QB should be a team leader that is verbally vocal, commands discipline, greatness, and respect.
JMac is probably just a bit too laid back for me. But hey, opinions like mine are as good as “an a$$hole on an elbow”. WTF do I know anyway…
May 19th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Einstein Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:38 am
CJ
Ben and JaMarcus aren’t the same QB, not even close, never will be. Bad analogy my brother. Different systems, different teams, different styles, I don’t see the comparison or example in your statement.
I agree JMarcus needs time to develop, players around him, and a system. But, I will say this again, does JMarcus display the desire or leadership abilities to be a team leader, a field general, a captain of an NFL team?
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Let me explain! There styles are diffrent and there systems are diffrent. I would argue that Big Ben came into a better system. He did not have to be a leader his rookie year he had leaders all around him and he admited to that in an interview. He was a young rookie learning leadership from guys like Bettis and Hines Ward. What I am saying is JAM started playing for a team thats record says “we are not that good.” JAM may have not went to the Superbowl with the Steelers like Big Ben did but he would have done much better than he is now.
Also contract negotiations are made between two parties. You can’t totally blame JAM and his agent for that. I don’t know why managment would wait so long and give him the money anyway (dumb managment move). Heck, they came back the next year and gave money away to every bumb in the league.
Lastly, to answer your question about JAM being the next Captain America of the NFL. I can’t say that and neither can you we don’t know him personally and I have not seen many Raider jerseys on Sunday with “Einstein” on the back of them. SO I know you don’t play for him. Just Jokes Einstein! : )
May 19th, 2009 at 10:53 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:50 am
I have not seen many Raider jerseys on Sunday with “Einstein” on the back of them. SO I know you don’t play for him. Just Jokes Einstein! : )
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Thats just because you are all haters that I held out for more money!!
My opinion is worthless, don’t listen to me…
May 19th, 2009 at 10:55 am
I think from a strictly SKILLS point of view, Russell fits the Big Ben mold. Both are big guys, somewhat mobile but not scramblers, and strong arm but some accuracy issues. I don’t think Russell will ever lead the league in passing yards or TD’s (neither will Ben) but can reduce turnovers and be a winner, exactly like Ben.
I agree with CJ on this one.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:56 am
JR has the talent to be hands down the best QB in the game, if not one of the best ever. Peyton Manning doesnt have an ounce of the talent he has. But no one will out work Peyton.
JR will probably be a solid QB in his career, but not one of the best because of his work ethic.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:56 am
In all reality, I don’t think we can truly judge or accurately assess JaMarcus until the end of NEXT season. This year will be like a rookie season again, new system, new receivers, new coaches. It won’t be until the end of the following season to truly gauge what we have in JaMarcus.
May 19th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Tay, the issue I had with Russell is I wanted to see him improve last year as the year went on. There were bumps in the road, but for the most part, he did improve. This year, we are going to see the emergence of Dmac, less pressure on Zach Miller to do EVERYTHING, and continued growth from Higgins and Shilens. All that will help Jam. The HUGE elephant in the room (pardon the pun) is how the offensive line plays. If they played like they played most of last year, we will be in serious trouble. That’s not Jams fault.
May 19th, 2009 at 11:06 am
heard a great interview with Kenny Stabler yesterday.when asked about Russell he said he has to prove he is dedicated by hard work.he also repeated more than once that a QB is only as good as those around him.get the proper pieces around Russell and he will be fine.they are both from the Mobile area and Kenny has been watching him since high school.
May 19th, 2009 at 11:07 am
# Einstein Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:39 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:02 am
I wish we had Jeff Garcia in 07 & 08 to mentor Russell instead of McCown, Culpepper, Walter & Tui …
speaking of clowns!
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Since when was it the responsibility of the players to develop players?
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Actually in almost all sports, most of the solid vets will take the younger guys aside and help them. Some won’t, but most will.
May 19th, 2009 at 11:12 am
****THIS ONE IS FOR JAM********
In all honesty, I would not get caught dead in the outfits JAM wears even if I could afford them but I am not him. Every mold of a man was not created in my personal image. So if JAMs cloths and quitE way of talking is not your thing than so be it. But don’t say all he is not a leader, he is not vocal, etc. etc. Because you don’t like the way he dresses or how he does not fit the American Boy QB mode. He won big time at LSU and they said he was not a real vocal guy when they drafted him but his actions speaks volumes.
Let me break JAM down for you guys. JAM grew up in the country at his Grandma’s house. In the country at Grandmas you eat well because she can cook so can my Grandma! They want you to get big for football! He got big for football he was real skinny in highschool and guess what? They complained about him being to skinny. Now they are complaining baout him being to big.
The guy has a cannon for an arm now I hear people getting mad because of that. What is next?
Now the cloths. When you are a country kid and you don’t have alot one day and the next day you do. He wants to dress big and show what hard work and blessing has done for him. Now big dressing is not my thing but it his. Now I hope he just keeps his head on straight!
JAM is not the best public speaker in the world neither was Farve initally or Ervin “Magic” Johnson but now these guys are in all kinds of comercials from Finacial Services to Ben Gay to give the young man a chance.
If you want to talk about a QB not being a leader lets talk about Ryan Leaf or Todd Marinovich. Now that is lack of leadership for you. He is not Rich Gannon but the guy does have a cannon and I can’t wait until he learns how to use it in an effective way.
May 19th, 2009 at 11:13 am
S&B-it’s becoming more obvious all the time that Favre is nothing but a self centered jerk.
May 19th, 2009 at 11:15 am
it’s kind of sad that Tee Martin is the one who sold Al Davis on the idea of drafting JaMarcus Russell
May 19th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Einstein Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:53 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:50 am
I have not seen many Raider jerseys on Sunday with “Einstein” on the back of them. SO I know you don’t play for him. Just Jokes Einstein! : )
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Thats just because you are all haters that I held out for more money!!
My opinion is worthless, don’t listen to me
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Einstein, I appreciate your comments!!!!
You make contributions to this blog and don’t you forget it!!!
May 19th, 2009 at 11:20 am
RaiderTay
I do agree with you about the QB’s bling. Not the right example to set.
Like that LSU Grad guy in my barbershop said about him, he’s always been blingy.
May 19th, 2009 at 11:24 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Dakota,
Jerry West stated he thought LaBron was a better player than Kobe even though Kobe was his draft pick. Talk about lighting a fuse.
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Jerry is right…Kobe is an old man now (13th season), but like Jerry said, Kobe still gets the ball with 10 seconds left on the clock and the game on the line.
Hopefully Kobe has one last burst left in the tank to get him through the next two rounds of the playoffs and if it takes Jerry tweaking him, then so be it.
Next year it will be more about Gasol and Bynum carrying the load.
Eventually Lebron will be a Laker, so I never dog on him, lol.
May 19th, 2009 at 11:24 am
KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 11:20 am
RaiderTay
I do agree with you about the QB’s bling. Not the right example to set.
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I do wonder what some of you guys would dress like or how some of you guys would act if you were 21 years old, and had $9mm in your checking account.
May 19th, 2009 at 11:26 am
What’s up nation?
I can’t wait for twitter by David White, what time do OTAs start?
May 19th, 2009 at 11:27 am
I can’t wait for twitter by David White, what time do OTAs start?
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it’s closed to the media, except on Wednesdays
May 19th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Oakglenn Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 11:24 am
I do wonder what some of you guys would dress like or how some of you guys would act if you were 21 years old, and had $9mm in your checking account.
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Oakglenn Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 11:24 am
KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 11:20 am
RaiderTay
I do agree with you about the QB’s bling. Not the right example to set.
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http://www.boston.com/ae/sidekick/blog/vanillaice.jpg
May 19th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Oakglenn Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 11:24 am
I do wonder what some of you guys would dress like or how some of you guys would act if you were 21 years old, and had $9mm in your checking account.
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http://www.boston.com/ae/sidekick/blog/vanillaice.jpg
May 19th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Oakglenn Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 11:24 am
KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 11:20 am
RaiderTay
I do agree with you about the QB’s bling. Not the right example to set.
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I do wonder what some of you guys would dress like or how some of you guys would act if you were 21 years old, and had $9mm in your checking account.
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I get that point as well. Still………you’d hope his focus would be more grounded.
May 19th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Or maybe like this Oakglenn….
http://dallasvintageshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/im000618.JPG
lol. I don’t care how Russell dresses as long as he win games.
May 19th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Oak,
I’m 30, and if I had JR’s money!!! I’ll give some away, and then go all out with the rest. From property to bling, cars and coats, and lots of travel.
My problem is not with JR, it’s the system!!!
Actors and singers are making mad money too!! Don’t blame them, blame the industry.
May 19th, 2009 at 11:35 am
The bling/fur is NOT the issue. The real question is whether this kid can learn to recognize defenses, quickly predict the best routes to key on, and/or audible to a better play.
Thus the arrival of both Hackett and Tollner.
I will be watching his decisions on the field this year, and with a bit of trepidation I must admit. Russell has not shown much in the way of football IQ to go along with his immense talent. I am attributing this to the weak coaching environment and his youth/inexperience.
If Russell learns the mental part of being a QB, he can wear and do whatever he wants. Stabler paved that path years ago.
If he can’t make that leap in the next two years he will become a black Jeff George.
May 19th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I do wonder what some of you guys would dress like or how some of you guys would act if you were 21 years old, and had $9mm in your checking account.
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I don’t care how much money he’s making. He’s not a kid in high school or college anymore. He’s not living at home. He’s a man with a job. He needs to take his job seriously and do it to the best of his ability. He has all the potential in the world. If he doesn’t put the work in or produce, he’ll eventually get replaced.
I don’t want to here any more excuses
May 19th, 2009 at 11:38 am
The bling and furs he wears are not the issue. The mindset that the bling and furs represent are.
May 19th, 2009 at 11:39 am
# Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Oakglenn Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 11:24 am
I do wonder what some of you guys would dress like or how some of you guys would act if you were 21 years old, and had $9mm in your checking account.
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Dakota, Why do I believe that’s how maddenraider dresses??? Bottom line to me is, all things considered, Jam is a very intelligent, well spoken, solid young guy. We are lucky to have someone like him leading the offense.
May 19th, 2009 at 11:39 am
RR,
Closed to the Media!! I can wait one more day. lol
May 19th, 2009 at 11:40 am
# Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 11:30 am
lol. I don’t care how Russell dresses as long as he win games.
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Exactly.
May 19th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Einstein Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:56 am
In all reality, I don’t think we can truly judge or accurately assess JaMarcus until the end of NEXT season. This year will be like a rookie season again, new system, new receivers, new coaches. It won’t be until the end of the following season to truly gauge what we have in JaMarcus.
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Actually, we can have a pretty critical conversation after the END OF THIS year. I just think we CAN’T make those critiques after his first year as a starter AND first year with a full training camp.
But this year, Russell should be a more steady performer. I would like to see 3,000 yds passing, 15 to 20 TDS and about 10 INTs. He should be in the middle of the pack in QB Rating…somewhere between 85 and 90.
Now if Khalif Barnes and/or Mario Henderson prove to be Kwame Harris II or the receiving corps ends up being Todd Watkins and that guy Sammie Franklin…then all bets are off LOL….But seriously, he should be a good QB this year…not great….but good.
May 19th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 11:35 am
The bling/fur is NOT the issue.
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KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 11:38 am
The bling and furs he wears are not the issue.
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Are you mocking me boy?
May 19th, 2009 at 11:43 am
KK,
#103,
I agree, but Joe N wore his coat on the sideline. He also made an A$$ of himself trying to kiss that reporter on Narional TV a few years back.
May 19th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Rich Gannon was on pros vs. joes last night
anybody else see that?
May 19th, 2009 at 11:50 am
pros vs joes is still on tv?
May 19th, 2009 at 11:51 am
maybe it was a rerun?
his teammates were Priest Holmes & Pacman Jones. LOL
May 19th, 2009 at 11:55 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I do wonder what some of you guys would dress like or how some of you guys would act if you were 21 years old, and had $9mm in your checking account.
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I don’t care how much money he’s making. He’s not a kid in high school or college anymore. He’s not living at home. He’s a man with a job. He needs to take his job seriously and do it to the best of his ability. He has all the potential in the world. If he doesn’t put the work in or produce, he’ll eventually get replaced.
I don’t want to here any more excuses
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Look at Raider Rockstar bringing his boot down!!!!
No more excuses $#!t or get off the pot!!!!
I think JAM is going to surprise some folks.
May 19th, 2009 at 11:59 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Rich Gannon was on pros vs. joes last night
anybody else see that?
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Joes ran a cover 2 and Gannon threw 5 INTs…
May 19th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
I think JAM is going to surprise some folks.
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I think so too. 3200 yards, 18 TD’s, QB rating of 88, half the fumbles
May 19th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 9:11 am
If Russell can’t stand up to the challenge little Jeff Garcia is issuing to him, well, then he isn’t made of the right stuff anyhow.
Russell can either cry about Garcia or work hard to secure his starting spot. Either way we find out more about our QB than if we had not signed Garcia.
Keep pushing him Jeff. Russell will either get tougher and better or you will speed up his demise which might save us a couple more years of waiting on something that just isn’t there.
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Exactly!
May 19th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Joes ran a cover 2 and Gannon threw 5 INTs…
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LOL. yeah!
May 19th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
OTAs begin today but are not open to the media until Wednesday. There’s no word if Burgess reported for voluntary duty, but if he did, it’d be a first in a long while. You can bet defensive ends Trevor Scott and Matt Shaughnessy are there. Both were impressive during minicamp while Burgess watched from the side.
The Raiders could just as easily keep Burgess because he’s affordable with a $2 million base salary in the final year of his contract. The bigger issue is identifying two defensive ends who can play the run. Burgess has not been a run stopper by any means, and Jay Richardson has not developed as hoped. It’s hard to improve against the run if the bookends don’t help, especially since the outside linebackers are better geared to play the pass as it currently stands.
-David White (SF Chronicle)
May 19th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Look Rick Pitino wears thousand dollar suits with “blingy” cufflinks and pinky rings and the like. He doesn’t get called up because he is successful. If Russell starts winning games, he will be described as “fashionable”.
May 19th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
All,
I’ve asked this before…but I’ll ask again. What exactly were the stats you were expecting from Russell this Past YEAR? I mean this to say there seems to be a lot of doom and gloom on a guy that finshed the year on an upswing…had several manageable games….and almost had a 2 to 1 TD to INT ratio.
Yet his job is on the line to Jeff Garcia???? The same Jeff Garcia that lost to Russell head 2 head!?! I am not saying Russell deserves a free pass…but a lot of you make it sound like he had a David Carr/Joey Harrington first year. He actually did okay when you get beyond the media bias. He played okay in the SD, Jets, Dolphins, Broncos(2), Pats, Texans and Bucs and made a play to win against Buffalo. That’s 8 games where he helped the team to win or compete.
I think you gotta wait till the end of the 3rd or 4th year before we get to the point where we are talking about in-camp or in-season replacements. Does anyone really want to see Jeff Garcia doing an upgraded version of Josh McCown!?!
May 19th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
OTAs begin today but are not open to the media until Wednesday
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And this is the problem with evaluating a Raider offseason. The Raiders just don’t allow a lot of media access.
That’s why expectations rarely meet reality in Oakland. The pre-season is cloaked in secrecy and nuance with the occasional blurb from the head coach.
I would say that good or bad…we won’t or don’t really know what’s going on in there.
May 19th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
You got to consider the guy had no WR’s, very little in NFL caliber coaching (the Kiffin-Cable-Knapp combo), and not much of an O-line the first 12 games. Throw in a half-dozen games where the D was getting light up early and often, and I think he did way better than anyone SHOULD REASONABLE EXPECT.
He is the least of my concerns heading into 2009. Well, until he weighs 280 than I will start to worry.
May 19th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
OTAs begin today but are not open to the media until Wednesday. There’s no word if Burgess reported for voluntary duty, but if he did, it’d be a first in a long while. You can bet defensive ends Trevor Scott and Matt Shaughnessy are there. Both were impressive during minicamp while Burgess watched from the side.
The Raiders could just as easily keep Burgess because he’s affordable with a $2 million base salary in the final year of his contract. The bigger issue is identifying two defensive ends who can play the run. Burgess has not been a run stopper by any means, and Jay Richardson has not developed as hoped. It’s hard to improve against the run if the bookends don’t help, especially since the outside linebackers are better geared to play the pass as it currently stands.
-David White (SF Chronicle)
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Maybe have Kelly play more at RDE with Gunheim, Scott and Richardson battle for LDE. Then hope Sands and Warren can get it done inside and stay healthy with Boscetti as the main backup. Rotate Kelly and Richardson inside at the DT spots in certain non run play situations.
May 19th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
SnB Defense Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
All,
I’ve asked this before…but I’ll ask again. What exactly were the stats you were expecting from Russell this Past YEAR? I mean this to say there seems to be a lot of doom and gloom on a guy that finshed the year on an upswing…had several manageable games….and almost had a 2 to 1 TD to INT ratio.
Yet his job is on the line to Jeff Garcia???? The same Jeff Garcia that lost to Russell head 2 head!?! I am not saying Russell deserves a free pass…but a lot of you make it sound like he had a David Carr/Joey Harrington first year. He actually did okay when you get beyond the media bias. He played okay in the SD, Jets, Dolphins, Broncos(2), Pats, Texans and Bucs and made a play to win against Buffalo. That’s 8 games where he helped the team to win or compete.
I think you gotta wait till the end of the 3rd or 4th year before we get to the point where we are talking about in-camp or in-season replacements. Does anyone really want to see Jeff Garcia doing an upgraded version of Josh McCown!?!
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I think Jamracus will be fine but I’m glad Garcia is there to push him and teach him at the same time.
May 19th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
How does a WCO QB teach JaMarcus Russell?
May 19th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Does anyone really want to see Jeff Garcia doing an upgraded version of Josh McCown!?!
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S&B: nobody wants or expects that – except maybe Norco Bob …
Everyone expects Russell to bloom in year number 3. that’s when 1st rounders that you draft based on potential (not production) start showing promise on an NFL field. JR was raw with a HUGE upside when we got him. At this point we’re still waiting. Jeff Garcia is the backup plan if JR flops or gets injured, which is not something ANY Raider fan should expect or look forward to. Jay Cutler is in a new system with all new coaches and a WR corps 10 times worse than ours. You think anybody will give him a pass if he flops? no way! and he’s been in the league a year longer than Russell. a HUGE investment in him by the Bears, just like JR in Oakland. The only people who want to see Caleb Hanie on the field are Lion, Viking or Packer fans!
May 19th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
[...] http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2009/05/19/raiders-live-chat-to-be-held-thursday/Javon Walker is on the “out of the league next year” watch too! Fargas…maybe a 6th rounder if there is an injury somewhere. He’s what 29…30…and injury proned… RaiderRockstar Says: May 19th, 2009 at 9:18 am. Keep pushing him Jeff. … [...]
May 19th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
JRuss has not “arrived” yet. I think that is the main concern of some of the folks here, and that is justified. Afterall, he was a #1 pick 3 years ago, and we should have had some return of our investment by now. JRuss should be able to make WRs better. He shouldn’t need top notch WRs to be good. To make the playoffs? Yes. But JRuss should have looked as good as he did the last few games, much earlier in the season.
He has ZERO excuses this year. Basically, all he has to do is be good, and this team can do some surprising things. We won’t even talk about him being great. With the tools this team has, all we need is solid QB play and this division is ours.
I think he’ll be fine.
May 19th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
[...] http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2009/05/19/raiders-live-chat-to-be-held-thursday/Javon Walker is on the “out of the league next year” watch too! Fargas…maybe a 6th rounder if there is an injury somewhere. He’s what 29…30…and injury proned… RaiderRockstar Says: May 19th, 2009 at 9:18 am. Keep pushing him Jeff. … [...]
May 19th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
How does a WCO QB teach JaMarcus Russell?
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He would teach him how to prepare, study and work like a pro. How to read defenses better in game situations and what to look for during the game. The WCO offense has nothing to do with it. Providing Jamarcus with a veteran backup who has leadership skills that Jamarcus needs to develop.
May 19th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Jhill post #128 -
couldn’t have said it better myself
May 19th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
How does a WCO QB replace a JaMarcus Russell in a vertical offense?
May 19th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Little “nuances” of the position that only veterans could pass down is what he can and should embrace learning.
I read earlier this year that Lebron said he learned a lot from Wally Sczerbiak, yes Wally freakin’ Sczerbiak, because Wally never had the athleticism to dominate and relied on little tricks to get his. So if Lebron can learn from Wally, Jamarcus can learn from Garcia.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
when is the live chat starting up?
May 19th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
As usual great post#68 Oak
May 19th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
How does a WCO QB replace a JaMarcus Russell in a vertical offense?
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They adjust the playcalling to shorter throws and screens. Just like he did in Tampa and everywhere else. If Garcia can be constructive and competitive without being a distraction…then fine…if he’s going to go talking to the media about starting and all that and giving a dissertation on what Cable’s priorities should be…then cut him loose now.
At least we can give Russell credit for not airing out his issues on radio interviews.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
That’s the one thing we lead the league in, SnB. Players who air nothing out to the media, despite the fact that they should be. We still lose, but we do have the most players that are loyal to their owner. And in the NFL, loyalty comes before winning. Well, actually, it doesn’t. But it sounds good to say it.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Vegas, watched that Ventura interview on Hannity. It was not a debate. Sure, he let Ventura say a few things, then interrupted him, drowned him out, and forced the last word in, some stupid nonsense about how great Reagan was, then they played out to commercial. Only someone who actually watches FoxNews regularly would consider that debate. But to each his own. Ignorance is bliss.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Great post SnB #120, that’s really all that matters.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
anybody know when the live chat is starting up?
May 19th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
LOL. i’ve been posting on this blog for a while now. I never even read it. Live Chat is Thursday. hahaha
nevermind
May 19th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
For you guys saying that Garcia is here to push Russell, I didn’t think you guys could be any more delusional, but you’ve topped yourself. What interest does Garcia have in helping Russell? He knows Russell’s not an NFL quarterback. He’s here to politic his way into the starting lineup, and make one more playoff run. And I say more power to him. He’s our only prayer at getting a wild card.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 11:38 am
The bling and furs he wears are not the issue. The mindset that the bling and furs represent are.
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Exactly KK!
I dont give a sh!t about him wearing diamonds in his ear, but wearing them during the game. That tells me that you care more about your appearance on the field then how you actually play.
If you play like sh1t then you look like sh!t. Despite what size diamonds are in your ears.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
MR,
Why go to the media and stir up controversey. What good does that do? If you are the best guy than prove it on the field. Don’t go to the radio and talk about “it shouldn’t be about money or status” blah, blah, blah….we get it Jeff…you are the consumate underdog…Whatever…go out work hard and do your job…don’t create unecessary drama in the media
May 19th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
If Al Davis seriously believes that Garcia’s content with a role of being Russell’s cheerleader, he’s crazier than I thought. What is it, priest, with Davis basically having no defense anymore from getting duped by employees? All the more reason for him to hang it up? I’ll let you answer.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Ventura still slammed him, no matter the hostile settings. That was my point, you can drown yourself in the exact definition of a “debate” all you want, but I watch Fox because the hosts occasionally get embaressed as Hannity did yesterday. Let me know when Keith has the gumption to let a Republican duke it out with him live on-set.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
SnB Defense Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
How does a WCO QB replace a JaMarcus Russell in a vertical offense?
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They adjust the playcalling to shorter throws and screens. Just like he did in Tampa and everywhere else.
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So they install a new vertical offense in the offseason, draft speed burners for it, and if Russell goes down, they abandon it?
Sounds like the DeAngelo Hall signing.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
What interest does Garcia have in helping Russell? He knows Russell’s not an NFL quarterback. He’s here to politic his way into the starting lineup, and make one more playoff run. And I say more power to him. He’s our only prayer at getting a wild card.
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ok. let me get this straight:
you’re predicting that Jeff Garcia will be our starting QB and that the Raiders will make the playoffs?
…and you’re calling us delusional? lol
May 19th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
SnB, going to he media and accusing Al Davis of doing something is the only way to get him to do the opposite. Kiffin goes to the press about the lack of aggression on defense, suddenly we’re blitzing like mad men against KC. Reverse psychology. And Al’s demonstrated that he has no immunity for it. He takes the bait every time.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Sorry, Rockstar. I know you’re desperate for a leg up because I kick your ass every day in here. But I never said we *would* go to the playoffs with Garcia. I said he’s our only prayer. Nice try, though. Loser.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
SnB Defense ,
I think Garcia was simply being average. As I said Before its not coincidental that after watching JR for a few days in OTAs, Garcia now thinks that he may be the best QB for this team at this point.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
For you guys saying that Garcia is here to push Russell, I didn’t think you guys could be any more delusional, but you’ve topped yourself. What interest does Garcia have in helping Russell? He knows Russell’s not an NFL quarterback. He’s here to politic his way into the starting lineup, and make one more playoff run. And I say more power to him. He’s our only prayer at getting a wild card.
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How is he going to take Oakland to the playoffs when he couldn’t take a talented Tampa team to the playoffs when they only had to win 1 game in four or five.
Your guy is a backup QB. Has been his entire career. You don’t get bounced around to 6 teams unless you are a backup QB. That’s what he is. He’s an overachiever who’s personality is getting a little irritating right now. This guy isn’t Joe Montana going to K.C. This is a guy that got bounced from S.F, Cleveland, Detroit and Tampa…all teams that need or needed QBs at the time.
Why didn’t the Vikings give this great QB a call?
May 19th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
SnB Defense ,
I think Garcia was simply being honest. As I said Before its not coincidental that after watching JR for a few days in OTAs, Garcia now thinks that he may be the best QB for this team at this point.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
raidertay Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
SnB Defense ,
I think Garcia was simply being average. As I said Before its not coincidental that after watching JR for a few days in OTAs, Garcia now thinks that he may be the best QB for this team at this point.
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Ok…keep it to yourself for now. Say, I am going to push to play…but don’t sit up there talking about money, status etc…trying to build a case that if I don’t start its because of some conspiracy….May Russell should go to the media too. Complain about Javon not being around…blah,blah, blah…just shut up and play ball
May 19th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Ventura isn’t a Republican? Or should I say, a member of the Republic party (if they can drop the -ic from Democratic I can drop the -an).
May 19th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Vegas, if you want to see Ventura really “slam” Hannity, and end his career, watch those two if they were ever to be in an independently moderated debate. Last night was Hannity running a typical segment where he cowboys up for his audience to “take on” (lecture, with complete editorial control) a more testosterone filled Bush critic. Usually it’s Baldwin. Yesterday, it was Ventura. Same stupid sideshow. Ventura was just there to plug the paperback release of his book. It is a great book, btw. Bought it when it first came out.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
So they install a new vertical offense in the offseason, draft speed burners for it, and if Russell goes down, they abandon it?
Sounds like the DeAngelo Hall signing.
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Garcia & Gradkowski are both guys who are already well versed in Paul Hackett’s system. If they didn’t fit the scheme they wouldn’t be here. We’d have Walter and Tui backing up JR again…
May 19th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
I think everyone is tired of losing and hearing how bad the Raiders are. That quick fix is not coming , But I think we’re getting better and have some stability in Cable at least I hope that’s the case. There’s talent on the roster and with some continuity it can work.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
raidertay Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
SnB Defense ,
I think Garcia was simply being honest. As I said Before its not coincidental that after watching JR for a few days in OTAs, Garcia now thinks that he may be the best QB for this team at this point.
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Isn’t that what T.O was doing in Dallas? Being honest. How about T.O in Philly talking about McNabb…being honest….I personally don’t like people that talk a whole lot and haven’t done anything. Its arrogant.
Conjecture aside….Garcia needs to realize that he already lost the 1st QB battle. And he had the better team at home…LOL
May 19th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
I think Garcia is just grand-standing a little to prove himself as a leader type, to help ease his transition into coaching. He knows Al isn’t going to look like an idiot for drafting Russell number 1 and than benching him 20 games into his career. If he wanted to have a “fair” camp competition, he went to the wrong place, and I think Garcia would be smart enough to know that. IMO, he came back to the bay, to prove some leadership skills and qualities, with the goal being some coaching gig in the next year or two in the Bay Area.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
SnB, you and Rockstar must live in the same trailer park, or mental hospital. I never said Garcia WOULD take us to the playoffs. I said he’s our only chance. Does the Al-is-god club have some sort of requirement to have ADD?
May 19th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
You mean Al isn’t God??
May 19th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
SnB Defense Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
How does a WCO QB replace a JaMarcus Russell in a vertical offense?
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They adjust the playcalling to shorter throws and screens. Just like he did in Tampa and everywhere else.
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So they install a new vertical offense in the offseason, draft speed burners for it, and if Russell goes down, they abandon it?
Sounds like the DeAngelo Hall signing.
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Garcia is a poor fit for the vertical attack. they would have to adjust the playcalling. I still want to know why the Vikings didn’t roll out red carpet…I mean the head coach Childress was in Philly when Garcia was there. He coached him. They run the same WCO in Minnesota. yet no call…they are trying to coax an injured Brett Favre out of retirement.
Garcia is a veteran…that’s about it.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Garcia IMO will help Russell understand how to prepare better. Now many will take that to mean Russell lacks preparation. NO, it means he needs to see how a vet prepares the things he does and how he does them. T.O. as talneted as he is learned a ton about preparation from Jerry Rice. What it means t be a leader and how to lead. It doesn’t mean you do exactly what they do but you now know how you NEED to go about it.
In any job we have you would be wise to look at and study those that are more successful and have experience. Well Russell needs to see that not just the work ethic but how to prepare. Russell’s work ethic is not an issue it is his lack of knwledge of what he has to do with his work ethic, how to use it effectively.
Many want to look at his size and periferal things that have zero to do with being a successful QB. And say, see look at him he has no clue. When for all they know he could be watching film at home 2 – 3 huors every night. WE DON”T KNOW.
The only way to determine these things for us as fans is LISTEN to what the PLAYERS say. They will tell you what’s going on NOT the media NOT ex-players and certianly not haters.
IMO Russell tis what I call a big play QB. I saw it in college and I see it now. He’s never going to be IMO a stats QB although he could have great stats from time to time. What he is, is a player who’s going to make some incredible plays, some only he can make. He could be become an alltime great. But I see a John Elway type talent. Elways stats were never outstanding like Montana. But when the game was on the line he made some incredible plays. That’s how I see Russell.
Now the Raiders need to biuld a comfortable offense for Russeell to operate in. Mike Shanahan did that for Elway, Walsh did it for Joe, Don did it Marino and Cable needs to do it for Russell…………….period
May 19th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Oh, and I thought it was Gruden’s fault Tampa didn’t get to the playoffs, guys? Didn’t take long to flip flop there. Once somebody confronted you guys with the prospect of Garcia taking Russell’s spot, all of a sudden Tampa’s skid last year was Garcia’s doing. Unreal.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
priest, what a surprise, not only are you delusional enough to believe that Garcia came her to hold a clip board and play catch with Russell, you backed it up with a huge diatribe of even more of your delusional nonsense. Garcia came here for one reason and one reason only, to play.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
vegas raider Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
I think Garcia is just grand-standing a little to prove himself as a leader type, to help ease his transition into coaching.
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Leaders don’t grand stand
May 19th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Sorry, Rockstar. I know you’re desperate for a leg up because I kick your arse every day in here. But I never said we *would* go to the playoffs with Garcia. I said he’s our only prayer. Nice try, though.
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look at you. you’re so proud, aren’t you? this blog is all you have to hang your hat on in life. you feel so smart and funny. only problem is everybody else on this blog thinks you’re a joke. nobody listens to you or agrees with your lame rants about Al Davis or Ron Wolf. nobody cares about your political views either. Maybe if you had a job or a girlfriend you wouldn’t have time to watch CNN all day or complain about the Raiders every day and then claim to be a fan. get a clue retard
May 19th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
So, guys, Gruden should still be coaching, right? That was all Garcia’s blunder last year. Right?
May 19th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Rockstar, you’re the one coming on here making some desperate attempt to discredit me on a daily basis. Don’t get all sappy on me now because I’ve put you in your place.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
RaiderRockstar says:
Garcia & Gradkowski are both guys who are already well versed in Paul Hackett’s system. If they didn’t fit the scheme they wouldn’t be here. We’d have Walter and Tui backing up JR again…
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DeAngelo Hall didn’t fit the scheme, and he got paid 8 million for 8 games.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Oh, and I thought it was Gruden’s fault Tampa didn’t get to the playoffs, guys? Didn’t take long to flip flop there. Once somebody confronted you guys with the prospect of Garcia taking Russell’s spot, all of a sudden Tampa’s skid last year was Garcia’s doing. Unreal.
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Quite honestly…Garcia, Gruden and that WCO..whatever..bottom line is that if they beat Oakland at home they go to the playoffs. They couldn’t get it done. Russell 2 TDs in the air…Bush 2 TDs on the ground and a field goal at the end with the ball at the 2 yard line….Garcia couldn’t beat out Griese. Got platooned for some of the year.
Look, I don’t hate Garcia, I just don’t think he’s anywhere close to a starting QB anymore…not that he ever was
May 19th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
SnB, we only have one leader on this team. Lechler. And he’s on special teams. So get this leader stuff out of your head, now. We don’t have one. Period. But Garcia is the best quarterback on our roster, and this team needs a winning season. I say, play him. Far as Russell goes? How long do we have to suffer with him just for Al to save face from blowing yet another draft pick? Al really thought Russell would be Elway.
My goodness..
May 19th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
We’ll soon see wont we.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
SnB, if Davis were to pass away, his son or wife would hire a real GM, and Russell would be the first one packing. Might as well nip it in the bud, now.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
SnB,
Garcia is trying to prove his leadership skills, that’s why he is grand-standing a little.
I’m sure he wants to play, but he is a smart dude, and knew Oakland would be a place to help his transition into the next stage in his life. He probably could have held out for a better contract (at least incentively) and a better opportunity to play, even if he waited until the pre-season and some injuries around the league. Instead he jumps at going to Oakland of all places in April. Kind of a head-scratcher if he really wanted the best place to win or play.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Oh, “We’ll see”. LOL. white flag…
May 19th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
why Al? we are so loyal..
why do you want to loose! consistantly!
May 19th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Did you guys see that San Jo Sharks state of the union thing on Comcast sports? They had fans and everybody asking the team questions, ownership, management, coaches, players. I wish the Raiders would try that.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
id rather be consistant than right!
May 19th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Funny how Garcia ripped Gruden when he got fired as did so many other players for Gruden at Tampa. Simeon Rice called him a scumbag.
Garcia is a decent talent nothing special IMO. He played well enough under Gruden to warrant some consideration. But what the hell is he doing here if he’s a starter. They would’ve told him from day one that he could start if he came. They didn’t and now this false bravado. He’s just saying what he thinks he should’ve said and maybe really feels. But when the lights come on we’ll see.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
This is a funny debate …
I guess there is nothing better to do until tmw’s report comes out. LOL!
It is laughable to think that Garcia could beat out Russell. And yeah, a lot of that may be laughing to keep from crying.
Truth be told, we could certainly win the division with Garcia as QB this year. I think this team is much more talented offensively than Tampa was. Or should we say that this team has a lot more weapons for Garcia. The same way JRuss just has to be good, same with Garcia, and Garcia has proven that he can at least be good.
I mean, it’s a win win situation to be honest. There is really nothing to suggest that JRuss won’t be able to pick up where he left off last year, so I’m not going to even entertain that. Cable says he’s been there since the season ended, and the WRs say they have been working with him for the past 7 weeks or so. Good enough for me.
And in case he gets hurt, Garcia is the perfect “game managing” backup.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
if Davis were to pass away, his son or wife would hire a real GM, and Russell would be the first one packing. Might as well nip it in the bud, now.
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is this guy related to Norco Bob?
seriously … Russell has played 16 games in the NFL and already he’s a bust? as MR would say “Unreal.”
May 19th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
And, those Sharks fans weren’t holding back. They were pissed. Putting blame right where it belongs, on team management. Wish Raider fans had the same zeal.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
garcias a fair little back up..
May 19th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
i blame gay Al..
May 19th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
And …
Why do I have a feeling that Gruden will be coaching this team again?
May 19th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
wit zeal
May 19th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
this is cables last year right?
May 19th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
I smoked some Babybacks with Almond wood Saturday. Gooooood. Falling off the bone.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
WR wasn’t one of our 6 needs?? Are you crazy, last year we had one of the worst years of production from the WR unit IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL!!!
The Run D, well that’s a whole another story.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
WR was a need, but did we fill it with a raw rookie?
May 19th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
BTW for all local Raider fans we have a new radio station to celebrate our teams in the East Bay. The station is 860 KTRB are the call letters.
We don’t have to take the crap from KNBR anymore. We can now listen and enjoy coverage of our Raiders and A’s.
GAWD! no more Ralph Barbieri and his Raider and Al hating…………….there is a GOD.
May 19th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
WR was a need, but did we fill it with a raw rookie?
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come on Kell. we got Samie Parker & Will Franklin
plus Javon Walker & Arman Shields are coming back from injury!
May 19th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
KK just camp legs man, they’re not counting on him to take us anywhere. You have to be able to practice, and you need body’s to do so.
May 19th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Adios muchachos!
May 19th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Posted on Raider fans.net….
All it proves is that there are hypocrites and just plain haters of Russell with no credibility. Eli and Big Ben have pics of them partying up with drinks in hand and they won Super Bowls. Even some of your guys darlings Quinn and Leinart have been caught with actual alcohol and beer bongs in their hands and they get a free pass?? I don’t think so….
http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/oakland-raiders-forum-message-board/151619-pictures-jamarcus-may-2.html
May 19th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
priesttj Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
BTW for all local Raider fans we have a new radio station to celebrate our teams in the East Bay. The station is 860 KTRB are the call letters.
We don’t have to take the crap from KNBR anymore. We can now listen and enjoy coverage of our Raiders and A’s.
GAWD! no more Ralph Barbieri and his Raider and Al hating…………….there is a GOD.
^^^^^^
Finally! No more gut wrenching garbage evil empire monopoly that is KNBR and the garbage that is Barbieri, Radnich, and the terrible Fitz and Brooks!
May 19th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Well, I’m out. Go Raiders in 2009! To quote the great Col. Jack D. Ripper: “God willing, we will prevail, in peace and freedom from fear, and in true health, through the purity and essence of our natural fluids. God bless you all.”
May 19th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
More on the Burgess trade:
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2009/05/report_pats_con.html
This is starting to gain some credibility.
May 19th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
from a logistical standpoint, isnt it stupid to pull your boys (and girls) home if you were to send them to 1ran?
May 19th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
So, guys, Gruden should still be coaching, right? That was all Garcia’s blunder last year. Right?
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I know 99% of the lunacy you spew is strictly for shock value, but let’s be honest here: Gruden is out of coaching for a reason. Rest assured, the 32 team owners, and GM’s and Team Presidents will have the best guy possible in there regardless of position. Do you think for one second the reason that Wade Phillips or Norv Turner or Marvin Lewis are lounging in the coaches office is because no one knows Jon Gruden is out of a job?? One job offer came in for Gruden. And that was with St. Augustine High School in Sarasota, for $43,000 a year. But Gruden had to teach PE too. The MNF gig was a better gig. So long to Gruden. He won’t be back in the league any time soon.
May 19th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Do it Al, take the picks!!!!
May 19th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Gruden will be coaching in South Bend next year after they fire “the genius” that is Charlie Weiss after another 7-5 year.
May 19th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Grudens got a SB ring. He’ll coach again soon. Tampa waited till all the jobs were gone to fire him.
May 19th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/17/will-ferrell-snl-season-f_n_204335.html
Great skit from SNL this weekend.
May 19th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Wasn’t the Irish Gruden’s “dream job”?
May 19th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
see you fellers tomorrow …
May 19th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
If the Raiders can trade Burgess for one of NE’s 2nd Rd picks I’d say go for it. I believe NE has the Jags, Titans and then their own 2nd RD pick in 2010. For a 3rd round pick I’m not so sure. NE’s 3rd round pick next year may as well be a high 4th if Tom Brady returns to form.
May 19th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
The main good thing with this cafe thing is that it sets one single standard nation-wide. With each state having there own MPG standards, it was turning into a headache for the automotive companies.
More government regulation affecting free market capitalism though. The last time our government instituted standards like these were the 70’s, which produced a bunch of buckets and awful vehicles.
May 19th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Why trade Burgess now ?When we needed to trade him was before the draft for an extra pick. Contract year usually means big numbers. Oh well too bad Gruden isn’t calling our MNF game. I’m sure it would have been a more interesting night than the Mike and Mike and Mike broadcast. UGH!!
May 19th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Message to Jeff Garcia…
Thank you for once again reminding us that you are a fierce little competitor. Now go back and sit down. We’ll call you if we need you.
May 19th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Vegas…
what i dont get, is, why not in those 8 years import motors from europe and asia!?
May 19th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
LOL we pay 1,8$ per 0,26 gallon
May 19th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
# KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Grudens got a SB ring. He’ll coach again soon. Tampa waited till all the jobs were gone to fire him.
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But that was my point, KK. If Gruden was that great, someone would have canned their coach and hired him. No one did. And no one is going to. Vegas is likely right that Gruden will get the Domer job. At best.
May 19th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Teach!…
good one!
May 19th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
But that was my point, KK. If Gruden was that great, someone would have canned their coach and hired him. No one did. And no one is going to. Vegas is likely right that Gruden will get the Domer job. At best.
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Oakglenn, I’m not saying Gruden is great, But he’s got a ring, and if he wants a NFL job next year, he’ll get one.
May 19th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
you can’t reason with them KK.
May 19th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I have little doubt that Gruden will find another job in the league. Not many coaches out there with his track record. Some team will definitely take a chance on him.
May 19th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Gruden is gonna do MNF, while he waits out the demise of Charlie Weiss. Should be just one more painful season. If on the other hand, Weiss manages to get all of those top-shelf recruits to actually play up to their talents, then Gruden can just wait on a great situation in the NFL to present itself, perhaps one that involves Tim Tebow.
May 19th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Kell..
okay, fair enough! I totally get that analogy… =)
May 19th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
I am disappointed that they didn’t get Gruden to do the Raiders game on MNF. He has a unique insight into the team, much like Madden did. It seems like a missed opportunity to have him doing the chargers game instead.
May 19th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
I’m gonna walk up to HQ with my dog and Russell Jersey, and see if I can see anything.
May 19th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
I am glad that Gruden was hired to replace the Kornheiser dude. Every time he spoke I just heard “Oh my god I’m soooo smart, blah blah blah…” Where the hell is Madden? or at least a football guy, jeesh…
May 19th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Kornheiser and Miller were not good in the booth. People want to watch the game and not try to decipher the underlying point in one of their long-winded comments.
May 19th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Matt Millen did a good job as a color guy better than some of the scrubs on these days.
May 19th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Lynn from snot…..
I owned a ‘69 coupe deville hard top for a couple of years. (85-86?) Bought it from the original owner. Was fun to cruise PCH or make a Vegas run in it.
May 19th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
What happened to you yesterday, Charged Down? Everyone was worried about you.
After your failed attempt at an analogy, inability to prove your not in a Blink-182 cover band and – of course – denial of the Raider’s 3 super bowl rings to the Charger’s 0, we all assumed you ran crying into your mom’s closet for the rest of the night.
But its good to see you’re out of school, home safe and pumping that new Blink cd!
May 19th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
vegas..
they thought they were the entertainment… big mistake
May 19th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
909
yeah nothing like riding in a big sled especially going to Vegas
May 19th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Go Lakers!!
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-lakerscelebs-pg,3511393.photogallery?index=6
May 19th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Lynn…
Yep, it was a cool ride. Wished I had kept it a while longer.
My neighbor’s son in law, has a sweet ‘60 cpe de ville, all restored. Looks like it just came from the show room floor
May 19th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Al Davis certainly keeps his fences well-mended.
May 19th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
♫ Shake a leg shake your head, Shake a leg, wake the dead, Shake a leg, get stuck in, Shake a leg, shake a leg ♫
May 19th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
909
you know I don’t like small cars and big women but I always find myself in them.
May 19th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Lynn…LOL
Time to grill some chicken & watch the pinche` Lakers!
May 19th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Lynn,
LMFAO bro.
May 19th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
i bet the farmers love the rain were getting now, but it means I take an hour more at work =)
oh crap, thunder too :/
May 19th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
I love the smell of fresh rain on dirt!! I miss the Rain!!
May 19th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
HaHahaha, lol, yeah isnt Cali great : P
May 19th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Thats a Kid Rock line but it fits.
May 19th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Gotta go check you guys later
May 19th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
LMN,
I always wanted to ask you, what are the majority if Arabs in your country? Are they Jordanian, Saud!, etc…?
May 19th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
LMN,
It does Rain in Cali, but not as much in Southern Cal ( LA, SD, etc..)
May 19th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
hmmm, good question… dont know about arabs, but most mus1ims are turks, soma1ians and pa1estinian…
we have a shawarma joint on every street here in greater copenhagen =)
May 19th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
most turks came in the 60’s when there were tons of work here, and they stayed, pa1estinans came as refuges since the 70’s and the soma1ians came in the 90s…
we have a loads of former yugos as well
May 19th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Lynn…LOL
Time to grill some chicken & watch the pinche` Lakers!
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Los Lakers de La Pinche Ciudad de la Senora de los Pinche Angeles de la Chingadera?
GO LAKERS!
May 19th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
in greater copenhagen 1/4 of the population isnt of original danish ethnicity… I love it, some hate it =)
May 19th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Raider O…
I hope that was sufficient =)
May 19th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Very interesting. I would like to visit, but not now. I have toomuch on my plate now, school, work, family, etc..
Also, I’m spending all my money on property. This is the best time to buy even in the Mid East, due to the economy.
May 19th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
What up O???Miss me lol
May 19th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
R8,
No!!
Like I said in the prev post, too much on my plate. lol
May 19th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Raider O..
you never go wrong with property!
I own my own and my former appartment… the rent from my former pays almost all my monthly debits =)
May 19th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
R8,
LMAO
LMN,
You did your best, and that’s more important. lol
Why are you still awake, isn’t really late now?
Get some sleep, good night bro.
Later Nation.
R8,
Still LMAO, what would we do without you?
May 19th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
They hate the Yugo’s in Switzerland.
May 19th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
# KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
But that was my point, KK. If Gruden was that great, someone would have canned their coach and hired him. No one did. And no one is going to. Vegas is likely right that Gruden will get the Domer job. At best.
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Oakglenn, I’m not saying Gruden is great, But he’s got a ring, and if he wants a NFL job next year, he’ll get one.
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Tell that to Brian Billick, KK
May 19th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Raider O..
yeah its late… i meant credits =) LOL
Im at work, could have gone home an ~hour ago, but the rain would have washed me down the harbor, still rains, no thunder and lightning at least =)
its a real wash down, 2-3 inches of water on the roads.. and im walking home, so no, I take an hour more =)
My colleague was very pleased he didnt have to go to work… there is nothing to do, im just sitting listening to music and the rain…. and the thunder, when it was there =)
May 19th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
kell..
they hate everybody in Switzerland, LOL =)
women got the right to vote in 1970 down there =)
May 19th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
nice, the Lightning is back…
im putting on some floyd and take the laptop to the panorama window =)
May 19th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Women got the right to vote in the Swiss Apenzell province in 1987?
They got a lot of Yugo workers that stayed, no, they don’t like em.
May 19th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Tell that to Brian Billick, KK
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Good point. Gruden’s the telegenic fair-haired boy.
May 19th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Kell..
okay i was wrong, they got the right in 1971…
in denmark, in 1915 and norway in 1913, but that was because they had an election in 1913 and we had one in 1915…
USA in 1918…
we have way more yugos than Switserland, they just hate everybody down there, except if you got money, they love you =)
May 19th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
kell..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage
May 19th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
o i have a beer in one hand and the mouse in the other im unpluging the key board soon….LMAO..so i wont type anything stupid tonight…man hope i dont have to count to ten….
May 19th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Anybody with half their wits would agree Gruden will get another job HC job. Anybody with half their wits would realize Gruden was fired after there were no HC jobs left for him. Having said that I’m sure he wanted to take a year off and have more options next year.
Sorry Oak but if the shoe fits..u know the rest.
# Oakglenn Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
But that was my point, KK. If Gruden was that great, someone would have canned their coach and hired him. No one did. And no one is going to. Vegas is likely right that Gruden will get the Domer job. At best.
May 19th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
OakGlenn, arent you the stooge thats been telling us to ignore the “trolls” for the better part of 2 years now? Thats what I thought, fraud!
# Oakglenn Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
So, guys, Gruden should still be coaching, right? That was all Garcia’s blunder last year. Right?
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I know 99% of the lunacy you spew is strictly for shock value, but let’s be honest here: Gruden is out of coaching for a reason. Rest assured, the 32 team owners, and GM’s and Team Presidents will have the best guy possible in there regardless of position. Do you think for one second the reason that Wade Phillips or Norv Turner or Marvin Lewis are lounging in the coaches office is because no one knows Jon Gruden is out of a job?? One job offer came in for Gruden. And that was with St. Augustine High School in Sarasota, for $43,000 a year. But Gruden had to teach PE too. The MNF gig was a better gig. So long to Gruden. He won’t be back in the league any time soon.
May 19th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
I bet all SB winning coaches that isnt in NFL isnt in the NFL because they retired… of course Gruden will be a HC again…
May 19th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Priest told us about this new stations for the East Bay…860 KTRB but I don’t see anything on their website about the Raiders. So far its just about the A’s from what I can tell. Its a start but its not complete.
May 19th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
24 Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Priest told us about this new stations for the East Bay…860 KTRB but I don’t see anything on their website about the Raiders. So far its just about the A’s from what I can tell. Its a start but its not complete.”
I can’t even get that station up here in Sonoma County. They need a stronger signal. I tried catching the A’s game in my truck yesterday and all I was getting was some Spanish jams. I can get Sacramento stations in my truck, so I know my reception is usually good.
May 19th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
RaiderDogg – I don’t know and I can’t say I’m very Basketball savvy either. I’m more enamored with the gems and diamonds of the sport. Jordan made me interested and when he was gone, I had trouble caring about the sport. James gives me a renewed feeling of interest. I’m a Warriors fan but they’re not good enough to keep me interested. I know whats going on in the playoffs but I don’t watch the games. I’m just not that big of a basketball fan. I just want to clear that up.
May 19th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
RaiderDogg – You need to upgrade to sirius radio or something so you can listen to the game. You can listen to the radio station online at least but that obviously doesn’t satisfy the need.
May 19th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
24
I am a Warriors fan as well. They got the 7th pick in the draft lottery today. I was hoping for a top 5 pick at least.
I have been contemplating Sirius radio. Seems like a good way to go.
I’m out for the night. Have a good one bro.
May 19th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
I hate the basketball lottery. I think its retarded. They really need to go by record just like everyone else. That would make it more fair in my opinion.
May 19th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
RaiderDogg – Peace.
May 19th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
I tried to tune in to 860 KTRB a few days ago when I read the article about them in the Examiner. Where are ther based? Im in Oakland and the station came in like crap. All of my stations come in clear, but that station had hella static.
It REALLY sucks not having a Raider sportstalk station. Our games come on 560 a frickin conservative republican station that plays Rush Limbaugh. WTF??
May 19th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
KTRB 860-AM hopes it will be the sports alternative
http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_12399722
May 19th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
http://www.ktrb860.com/
May 19th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
KTRB 860
“Pappas believes, through feedback from listeners and advertisers, that A’s and Raiders fans are underserved in the local sports radio landscape because KNBR is the flagship station for the Giants and 49ers. Thus, KNBR’s sports talk hosts spend more time talking about the teams that the station carries.”
(I have felt this way for a long time. Its nice to know that someone is stepping forward.)
May 19th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
KNBR general manager Tony Salvadore acknowledged that his programming focuses more on the Giants and 49ers but rejected the notion that it doesn’t pay enough attention to the A’s and Raiders.
“I’m not buying that at all,” Salvadore said. “For anyone to say that we don’t cover the A’s or we don’t cover the Raiders is such a fabrication. Are we going to talk more about the Giants? Of course we are. But we’re a sports station. We don’t ignore the A’s.”
(The one thing that Salvadore is missing is the fact that Raiders fans don’t just want to hear about the Raiders on the SF flagship station, they want to hear positive feedback instead of the constant bashing instead so yes…Salvadore is right in the fact that KNBR talks about the Raiders but its always focused on the negativity of the team instead. We don’t just want coverage for the sake of coverage.)
May 19th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Also…notice that Salvadore said they don’t ignore the A’s? He didn’t mention the Raiders in that sentence. Thats the point.
May 19th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
It wouldn’t matter where the warriors drafted they will always suck !!!!!
GO RAIDERS
GO LAKERS
May 19th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
KTRB is in its first season carrying A’s games, and Pappas said the station would be interested in striking up a relationship with the Raiders, who currently are in the middle of a contract with KSFO.
“Jim Pappas is a nice guy. I wish him the best of luck,” Salvadore said. “But to say that we don’t cover the A’s and Raiders is just a way for them to rationalize what they are doing. Welcome to the sports radio business. It’s a free country. I wish him the best.”
(Another missed point by Salvadore. He sounds like a punk.)
May 19th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
I love the NBA draft i’ve only seen the Lakers in the lottery 1 25+yrs of loving them and 1 lottery draft. While the warriors and clippers and queens draft lottery every year!!!!
All this hating on jruss for bling who cares win and you can wear what ever!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 19th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
These pics are actually not as bad as the Poole article makes it sound, but on a seperae note Dude looks kinda big. That second pic JR looks frickin preagnant.
http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/oakland-raiders-forum-message-board/151619-pictures-jamarcus-may.html
May 19th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
I hate to say it but…JR has a gut.
May 19th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
With that being said…If he wins…I don’t care. He could be really skinny by doing nothing but drinking alcohol too just like old school QB’s used to do so it can go either way. A man with a full stomach is a happy man so thats all we can ask.
May 19th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Of course…if JR’s gut is getting in his way and thats why he can’t complete a short pass…thats another story.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
You all shouldnt worry about Russell and his fat gut, his lack of any athletic skills, his poor quaterback play,..his lazy attitude,…his basick lack of any intelligence,..no worries my friends…because Jeff Garcia wasnt brought here to be anyones mentor,..nope,..he will easily win starting job in Napa,…and loser Russell gone after this season…thank God almighty for that. Youre welcome.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Anybody with half their wits would agree Gruden will get another job HC job. Anybody with half their wits would realize Gruden was fired after there were no HC jobs left for him. Having said that I’m sure he wanted to take a year off and have more options next year.
Sorry Oak but if the shoe fits..u know the rest.
# Oakglenn Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
But that was my point, KK. If Gruden was that great, someone would have canned their coach and hired him. No one did. And no one is going to. Vegas is likely right that Gruden will get the Domer job. At best.
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If actually you read my post and could comprehend it, it said that Gruden was fired 2 weeks after the season ended. That would give any franchise plenty of time to make arrangements to hire Gruden. No one made any move for him. There is a reason for that. Gruden is done in the NFL.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Guy’s please believe me if you had any idea what the Kenny Stabler’s of the past were doing in may then you would look at this as boys being boys. Kenny would be out all night before a day game show up and throw for 3 TD’s and win the game.
Russell is a BIG man and always will be one. I see these pictures and he actually looks better than I thought he would before the post.
I for one hate the hip hop culture but ALL my nephews and every young kid I know does what I see him doing. What makes him any different than any other kid except for the fact that he’s under a microscope, and they aren’t. Take a look at other entertainers in any other venue the fact is the dangers are too numerous to mention. He has to learn and it aint going to happen over night he’s only 23 years old. And I keep saying that but young men that age are mistake PRONE…..period
Now all the peripheral stuff that you see is just a young man living his life, hopefully he’ll survive.
But let’s take a look at Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan if you only knew the things they did and the people they did them with. What Russell is doing IMO would be considered mild. MJ hung out with not street thugs but full fledged mafia types and gambled with high rollers of the worst kind. In fact his father paid for it with his life. Because he mixed with the wrong crowd and was murdered. Not at all saying it was MAN’s fault but the only way James Jordan knows men of that ilk is through his son.
The same is true with Magic and James Worthy. This is real when you have the kind of money Russell has the sharks smell blood. I wrote in here a while back that Mr Davis had to move quickly when Russell uncle died and that’s the reason Garcia is here. But Russell is very vulnerable as was Darrell Russell hopefully JaMarcus has another family member he can listen to who’s as influential as his uncle was.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Mistabrown Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Anybody with half their wits would agree Gruden will get another job HC job. Anybody with half their wits would realize Gruden was fired after there were no HC jobs left for him. Having said that I’m sure he wanted to take a year off and have more options next year.
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Of course this statement comes from someone who thinks Chuck Bresnahan is a fantastic Defensive coordinator. Unfortunately, no one remotely associated with the NFL agrees. Of course, anyone with any idea what goes on in the planet earth would agree with much this guy posts.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
That actually is a very good post priest. Jamarcus has got to learn from Mike Vicks mistakes. If someone hands you $60mm, it’s time to get serious about your life and your career. And I mean SERIOUS SERIOUS!
May 19th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Just a word on Gruden. GM’s aren’t as crazy about him as people in here want to believe. That team went from a young talented team that won a SB to an old small less talented squad. Dungy left a very talented team that Gruden inspired and they won he also got a QB they needed.
But his fickle lack ability to develope a QB was telling. The bloom was off the rose and the picture that was left wasn’t very pretty. Not to mention the players were going to upper management making damning complaint about his handling of players. He’s just too abrasive. The players stopped playing for him.
May 19th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Oak, he needs to grow up and we need to allow him to grow up. There are no shortcuts. He’s not a bad kid nor does he have a bad work ethic. He’s a kid who was raised in the hip hop culture and doing what he knows until he knows better. Like millions of others.
Many want him to look like a basketball player, well he’s not a basketball player nor is he a DE, he’s a QB……..period
May 19th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
Priest I was on Garys show today,..he asked me to tell you its ok to call again and hopes you do so.
May 20th, 2009 at 1:11 am
hmmm… the mods are very silly, they delete the weirdest things
May 20th, 2009 at 4:10 am
Mornin’ Nation!!!
May 20th, 2009 at 4:56 am
All this gruden bashing from bucs fans I would love to play the SB again but with chucky and are playbook on the Raiders side we would have rolled them!!!!
May 20th, 2009 at 5:44 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
How’s the AM crew doing this morning?
Funny, NMF, how the Bucs fans are bashing Gruden. You know if it wasn’t for him…
May 20th, 2009 at 5:57 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, HWNDR,NOMOREFAFGAS,RAIDER-TW,NOW WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH GRUDEN ON MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL,THERE GO’S THE T.V. VOLUME….
May 20th, 2009 at 6:07 am
Actually, Gruden may be better than that Tony dude that was on there before. He has caused me to actually get up and leave before.
May 20th, 2009 at 6:21 am
THAT MAY BE HWNDR, FROM WHAT I SEEN ON THE DRAFT COVERAGE,IT’S GOING 2 BE A LONG YEAR.
May 20th, 2009 at 6:24 am
Player Profile: DE Trevor Scott
By Nitesh K. Dutt
Entering his second year in the National Football League with The Oakland Raiders, defensive end and Potsdam, N.Y.-native Trevor Scott continues to make a name for himself. After a year in which he tied for the NFL lead among rookies with a team-high five quarterback sacks, Scott is hoping to reach new heights with the Raiders during the 2009 campaign.
“My main goal for this year is to get more playing time,” Scott said recently after an offseason workout. “I definitely want to earn a starting spot and to get double-digit sacks this season.”
While those may be lofty goals for a young player, Scott has shown himself to be a dedicated contributor with a non-stop motor on the gridiron.
The University of Buffalo product was selected in the 6th round of the 2008 NFL Draft by the Oakland Raiders, who took note of his speed and agility at the defensive end position. Scott began his collegiate career as a tight end but moved to the defensive line for his final two seasons at Buffalo and racked up 19 sacks and 28.5 tackles for a loss as a junior and senior.
Scott’s work ethic quickly impressed the Raider coaches and earned him plenty of playing time as a rookie. Soon enough, Scott’s play was getting noticed by opposing offenses as well and he registered the first two sacks of his career in an overtime victory against the New York Jets on October 19, 2008.
This season, however, opponents will see a more complete defender lining up across from them. “I already feel more confident with what’s going on and the whole scheme of things,” said Scott. “Whereas last year I was trying to get a feel for things and get to know my surroundings, this year I can focus on working hard and making more of a contribution to the team. With just that one year under my belt, I already feel like I’ve gotten better.”
Knowing how to prepare for an NFL season is half the battle for most young players, but it is Scott’s preparation that made his first full offseason enjoyable. “I just trained,” said Scott. “I trained for a couple of hours every day, got something to eat and took the rest of the day off. Then I woke up and did it all over again.”
Not only have Raider fans noticed the 6′5″, 255-pound defensive end, but his family and friends back in Potsdam have recognized Scott’s rise in the league. “Everybody in my family has pretty much jumped over to the Silver and Black,” said Scott. “My buddies still love their teams, but my family is all Raider fans now.”
And while it’s difficult for Scott’s family to get to games in person, his biggest fans are able to watch him and his Raider teammates take the field on television. “Every week they have NFL Sunday parties and watch our games,” said Scott.
Thousands of miles away from Oakland, a small town in New York has embraced the Raider Nation because of a promising young defensive lineman named Trevor Scott. His dedication to being the best has made Scott one of the NFL’s rising stars and the Potsdam product is cementing his place as a cornerstone of the Raider defense.
May 20th, 2009 at 6:26 am
good morning Dirt Lot, Hwnrdr, NMF …
May 20th, 2009 at 6:29 am
Twitter coverage returns
The Raiders will open Organized Team Activities to the media Wednesday from 9:30-11:30 a.m.
For an inside look at practice, check out our Raiders Twitter feed at https://twitter.com/bydavidwhite, which will give live updates as things happen. The idea is to give small glimpses of what we see out there, not in-depth conclusions to jump to. So, keep that in mind.
For those new to Twitter, it’s basically Instant Messaging for all the world to see as short grafs are posted. Space is very limited, so things get abbreviated (DHB = Darrius Heyward-Bey, JaMarcus = Russell, etc.) There’s no spell check, so try to understand.
And always, thanks for following.
-David White (SF Chronicle)
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3 more hours boys and girls!
May 20th, 2009 at 6:32 am
GOOD MORNING AND THANK’S AS ALWAY’S ROCKSTAR…
May 20th, 2009 at 6:34 am
You just know Dmac is gonna blow it up this year , get the message to cable big al tell him to unleash the 2-headed monster Bush/Dmac both over 1,000 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 20th, 2009 at 6:37 am
Trevor Scott = 16 game starter and we trade Burgess?
May 20th, 2009 at 6:40 am
BUT , BUT, WHAT ABOUT FARGAS..?
May 20th, 2009 at 6:48 am
BUT , BUT, WHAT ABOUT FARGAS..?
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DLF: Fargas will also have 1000 yards
3000 rushing yards on the season = 188 rushing yards per game
haha
May 20th, 2009 at 6:54 am
OakGlenth,
You know dam well all I said is Id rather have Bresnahan over Ryan. Even a lame brain twit like yourself knows I never EVER said Bresnahan is a fantastic DC. The difference between you & me is I dont have to lie about what you say to make a fool of you….you on the other have no choice but to lie.
Moron.
# Oakglenn Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Of course this statement comes from someone who thinks Chuck Bresnahan is a fantastic Defensive coordinator. Unfortunately, no one remotely associated with the NFL agrees. Of course, anyone with any idea what goes on in the planet earth would agree with much this guy posts.
May 20th, 2009 at 7:02 am
Can’t Reece and Rankin get their 1000 too?
May 20th, 2009 at 7:07 am
Don’t trade burgess to the pat hell no , contract year let him play for his pay get double digit sacks and get his big money elsewhere.
May 20th, 2009 at 7:14 am
NMF…
I totally disagree… trading burgess would validate the Shaunessey pick (somewhat)
we need to accumulate picks so we can get better, next season… a 2nd and a 3rd, is way better than Burgess is, do the deal Al… Burgess wont get more than 4-5 sacks anyway, because he will sit out with injuries… Trevor Scott and Richardson is okay for now, we wont win more than 6 games anyway, might as well get ready for the 2010 season…
May 20th, 2009 at 7:22 am
LMN,
Care to comment on this interesting article? Is that you in photo 23? LOL.
What is it about soccer and fire?
http://www.boston.com/sports/blogs/bigshots/2009/05/a_flare_for_soccer_open_flames.html
May 20th, 2009 at 7:24 am
And please don’t tell me Caracas is 10000 miles from Copenhagen…I realize that, it was a joke. Cool pic though.
May 20th, 2009 at 7:26 am
good morning BSJ & LMN …
D-Burg is oft injured, one dimensional and disgruntled.
at this point he’s a waste of a roster spot when you’ve got Scott, Richardson, Shaughnessy & Gunheim who all need playing time to grow and develop into NFL caliber starters. hopefully not more situational pass rushers like Burgess …
May 20th, 2009 at 7:30 am
Can’t Reece and Rankin get their 1000 too?
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we’ve never seen these guys in a game besides preseason. If we wanted a preseason beast we should have resigned Adimchinobe “Joe” Echemandu
don’t see where Gary Russell fits in either unless we cut Fargas, Lawton, Rankin and Reece. Then G-Russ would be 3rd RB and backup FB behind Neal while Oren O’Neal is on the PUP list
May 20th, 2009 at 7:35 am
BSJ…
JFC!!!! okay propan flames are cool, but thats just sick..
I love the flares like the ones Dinamo Kiev has (picture 19) those are banned, but they always get them in somehow to the big games..
“What is it about soccer and fire?” — have you ever been to a Rammstein concert? if so, then you would know what kind of atmosphere it gives!…if you havent, you really lost the greatest stage-show on earth..
some weeks ago there was a fire on a staduim here in DK as well, but we have usually everything under control so it never spin out of control…
May 20th, 2009 at 7:37 am
BSJ…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nsp0N7XC3k0&feature=related
May 20th, 2009 at 7:37 am
morning RRS =)
or good afternoon =)
May 20th, 2009 at 7:42 am
awwwwwwwww…
one of my favorite days, ever… :/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUcV1s9MADk&feature=related
May 20th, 2009 at 7:46 am
of course every team has its idiots, the uFCKers just have way more…
flares is great, and when they are burned out you give them to the stewarts…
but here is an example of how sick the uFCKers are…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-dPI3RNjXY&feature=related
May 20th, 2009 at 7:47 am
BSJ…
dammit!, look what you got started now =)
sorry guys, cant help myself, LOL =)
May 20th, 2009 at 7:50 am
—”Former Steelers RB Najeh Davenport chased down a thief who stole his 1970 Chevy Impala Tuesday. When Dookie left his car running outside his home, the man jumped in and sped off. After trading paint with four parked cars, the man tried to escape on foot only to be caught from behind by Davenport”—
TOO COOL!!! dont try to track race with a NFL player =) LOL
May 20th, 2009 at 7:52 am
Mistabrown Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 6:54 am
OakGlenth,
You know dam well all I said is Id rather have Bresnahan over Ryan. Even a lame brain twit like yourself knows I never EVER said Bresnahan is a fantastic DC.
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Just pointing out that you would rather have someone who was fired from every job he ever had, is out of the league, and selling insurance in Poughkipsie versus someone who has never been fired and is a DC in the NFL. And you are the one calling who a moron?
May 20th, 2009 at 7:58 am
LOL!
LMN, can’t watch YouTube at the workpace but may later…
And no Rammstein concerts for me, but I did a few Dead shows with “flares” in my mouth. Just for aromatherapy of course.
May 20th, 2009 at 7:59 am
Lakers WIN!!!!
Nuggs played out of their minds and still couldn’t win. They are dead.
May 20th, 2009 at 7:59 am
be back later. gotta meeting
May 20th, 2009 at 8:01 am
….or, the Lakers lucked out and Denver won’t make the same mistakes in game 2….
Why can’t every playoffs be like 2001?
May 20th, 2009 at 8:04 am
“Millard, who coached Burgess the past four seasons in Oakland, said the Raiders had a package under former defensive coordinator (and one-time Patriots linebackers coach) Rob Ryan that used Burgess as a 3-4 outside linebacker.
“I think he could make the transformation to outside linebacker because he did that in our 3-4 package,” said Millard. “We called it ‘Joker.’ We used it a lot, especially in the red zone. I really believe he can do it.”
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Lol, I thought all of Ryan’s defensive packages were called a Joke(r).
May 20th, 2009 at 8:08 am
It appears Millard is out of football. Lets hope next time we hear “Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there” its an ad for the Millard-Sands Insurance Agency.
May 20th, 2009 at 8:12 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 7:58 am
LOL!
LMN, can’t watch YouTube at the workpace but may later…
And no Rammstein concerts for me, but I did a few Dead shows with “flares” in my mouth. Just for aromatherapy of course.
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i hope the mods havent deleted them when you get home!
re, Rammstein… imagine hard hard rock, and the singer with a flame-thrower spewing flames 10-12 yards… =)
May 20th, 2009 at 8:13 am
BSJ…
http://images.google.dk/images?q=rammstein%20flames&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:da:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=da&tab=wi
May 20th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Dakota,
Nuggetts are done. No way Melo shoots that well again.
Seemed like the refs were letting it get WAY physical. Odom and Gasol got mugged. And they totally missed Chauncey’s foot on the sideline.
I want more Farmar and Brown, less Sasha. And where did Derek Swisher go?
May 20th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Wooooohooooo!! go lakers!!! its the vikings practice squad right?
May 20th, 2009 at 8:17 am
Laker’s were sure in a 1st Q funk. Brick after brick. Then the 2nd best player in hoops (per West) took over and mustled to victory!
Go Lakers
May 20th, 2009 at 8:19 am
LMN,
Excellent use of propane and propane accessories.
May 20th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Bo,
Melo may not shoot that well again, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Chauncey go off for 30 in game 2 to make up for it. That guy is a winner and knows what his team needs and when they need it.
Lakers have to work on getting better ball movement and letting Gasol roam the paint to better establish position on the post. Lakers could hardly even get the ball into him last night. Those are things Jackson will have fixed by game 2. Lakers didn’t have much time to prepare for Denver, but now that they know what they are up against I would expect better play.
Fisher hit some clutch shots last night…we haven’t seen that much this season, but now is the right time for it.
Sasha has reverted back to his 2006 form. Ariza needs to be more aggressive with the ball.
If we win game 2 the series will be over in 5.
May 20th, 2009 at 8:22 am
LMN, you have a purple problem. Its the color of royalty you know…
May 20th, 2009 at 8:23 am
TOO COOL!!! dont try to track race with a NFL player =) LOL
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Espescially an Al Davis drafted player,lol.
May 20th, 2009 at 8:24 am
I’m thinking both home teams will win the first two games, and it will be 2-2 come game 5. Lamar O-dumb got outplayed by the “Birdman”.
May 20th, 2009 at 8:24 am
LMN,
Did you get all the poo cleaned out of your apartment?
May 20th, 2009 at 8:32 am
http://www.servicleanatl.com/images/mold_crawl_space%5B1%5D.jpg
Looks like you have quite a clean-up job to do LMN!
May 20th, 2009 at 8:32 am
BSJ…
yup =) LOL, ive been to 7 concerts with them (i think) at least 7… his voice was effed up the last few times, but man thats a show… even guys (and girls) that dont like them, love their concerts =)
♫ Wollt ihr das Bett in Flammen sehen ♫
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38ZAk0sjBJ8
May 20th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Did you call Mike Rowe from dirty jobs to help?
May 20th, 2009 at 8:35 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 8:22 am
LMN, you have a purple problem. Its the color of royalty you know…
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but mostly gheys… our royalty colors has red and blue…
purple was the color of royalty loyal to the pope…
May 20th, 2009 at 8:37 am
i rather root for a losing team than a purple team….
Dakota…
which one is your lakers????
http://pennstatermag.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/dsc_4044-sm-mashea.jpg
May 20th, 2009 at 8:39 am
No actually you said I said Bresnahan is a “Fantastic” DC which is a complete lie. And i’ll say it again id rather have Bresnahan who is a complete failure of a DC over Rob Ryan who is even more of a failure.
With Bresnahan at least he has the balls to blitz, id rather lose being aggressive than go the Rob Ryan route of playing soft and getting your balls kicked in by the leagues bottom of the barrel RB’s and QB’s.
OakGlenn, if you stop making stupid post in here I wont have to make a fool of you and then you wont have to lie about what I say….DEAL ?
# Oakglenn Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 7:52 am
Just pointing out that you would rather have someone who was fired from every job he ever had, is out of the league, and selling insurance in Poughkipsie versus someone who has never been fired and is a DC in the NFL. And you are the one calling who a moron?
May 20th, 2009 at 8:41 am
LMN,
The only women on the Lakers are the Europe@ns, lol.
May 20th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Jerry can we get OakGlenn IQ tested and put his account on hold until we can verify he has the minimum brain cells to post in here? Thanks in advance!
Nothing further..
May 20th, 2009 at 8:43 am
i rather root for a losing team than a purple team….
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Thus you are a Nugget fan.
May 20th, 2009 at 8:43 am
That’s a sweet chain Russell has in #284. Dude looks a little chubby though, he is sure is providing “ammo” for those ready to pile on him
May 20th, 2009 at 8:43 am
Vick is out…Ron Mexico is back!
May 20th, 2009 at 8:44 am
dakota..
fine with me, the entire team is a ghey pride parade Europe4n and american alike, but they play damn good ball… still the gheyest team oh well, except Vikings =)
May 20th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Dakota Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 8:41 am
LMN,
The only women on the Lakers are the Europe@ns, lol.
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It what strange world does a shoelace around your head look cool?
May 20th, 2009 at 8:45 am
ohh i need some inner…
May 20th, 2009 at 8:49 am
LOL. Ghey is the sport where grown men rip off their shirt to celebrate.
May 20th, 2009 at 8:56 am
BSJ…
maybe so, but lakers players should rip of their shirt…. its PURPLE GOD DAMMIT!!!
May 20th, 2009 at 8:59 am
JFC!!!!
900 appearances!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paolo_Maldini
he is truly the greatest defender ever, I simply cant understand that a man can be that great…
May 20th, 2009 at 9:02 am
woaw! and 126 for Italy…
May 20th, 2009 at 9:10 am
The I-tie’s are always good defensively. They roughed up and pushed around everybody to win a world cup a few years ago.
May 20th, 2009 at 9:16 am
vegas…
true!!
but in the 1950s they were very offensively minded, but when most of their squad died in a plane crash, they had to change play-style, and up till today, Seria A and their national team is founded on defense… quite boring to me, but very effective…
whereas Spain still play the style Italy did prior to the crash in 1956 (i believe)
May 20th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Twitter is blocked on my stupid work PC. Hopefully somebody will post some David White, like we did during minicamp.
May 20th, 2009 at 9:31 am
OTAs JUST started. I wonder if Sam Williams is hurt yet…
May 20th, 2009 at 9:31 am
I apologize to everybody for my political bantering yesterday. I have a problem, I want to debate politics and I am angry, so when I start I can’t stop. Please don’t direct any political comments my way as I want to stay away and keep it football.
-Vegas Raider
May 20th, 2009 at 9:43 am
On that note when does “practice” start today and has Jerry said that he is attending?
May 20th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Someone tell Kenyon Martin I’ve got the same lipstick tattoo but its in a different spot, but really are those miss piggys lips.
May 20th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Vegas,
What a mature statement. Too bad this is no place for grownups…
May 20th, 2009 at 10:02 am
OTA started at 9:30 PST.
May 20th, 2009 at 10:07 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 7:50 am
—”Former Steelers RB Najeh Davenport chased down a thief who stole his 1970 Chevy Impala Tuesday. When Dookie left his car running outside his home, the man jumped in and sped off. After trading paint with four parked cars, the man tried to escape on foot only to be caught from behind by Davenport”—”
Looks like Dookie has been playing on the wrong side of the ball all of these years.
Om another note, you Laker fans crack me up. Good game last night…
May 20th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Per David White’s Twitter feed:
khalif barnes still running second team left tackle, all mario henderson with starters
half a minute ago from mobile web
mcfadden lines right, runs down sideline lob fro russell
2 minutes ago from mobile web
the 1 was a 40 yd corner pass to jonathan holland. coaching staff cheered
5 minutes ago from mobile web
jamarcus 1 for 3 in first passing drill, no defense on field
6 minutes ago from mobile web
just noticed jay richardson is not practicing, don’t know what his injury is yet.
7 minutes ago from mobile web
everything right now is individual drills
16 minutes ago from mobile web
new wr will franklin sporting no 17, javon’s old number
19 minutes ago from mobile web
darrius heyward-bey also not here. not allowed to practice until school is out, nfl rules
20 minutes ago from mobile web
with no punters here, jl higgins taking long snap. what is he, bugs bunny catching his own ball?
21 minutes ago from mobile web
cbs nnamdi asomuugha and chris johnson also not here. remember, this is voluntary
23 minutes ago from mobile web
roster check: no andrew walter, no derrick burgess
23 minutes ago from mobile web
they just let media in, here we go
31 minutes ago from mobile web
May 20th, 2009 at 10:14 am
“not allowed to practice until school is out, nfl rules”
LOL, kind of tough to focus on finals when your negotiating a $30 million dollar contract.
May 20th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Hey Vegas,
What do you think of “universal” health care? Are you ready to pay for other people’s health care while you probably don’t qualify for it yourself because you get paid more than $15/hour so you will still have to pay for your own insurance? Or if you want to see a doctor not trained in Guatemala or get treatment within 6 months of your cancer diagnosis you will still have to carry private health insurance?
Getting screwed by the insurance companies is quite enough as it is…I can’t wait until the gov is also taking a bite out of me to pay for MaddenRaider’s sex change operation.
May 20th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Funny Dakota, preying on the weak, LOL.
May 20th, 2009 at 10:17 am
LMAO @ Dakota
May 20th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Dogg, sorry the W’s didn’t get one of the top picks…poor Blake having to play for the Clippers! Now the Clipps are going to have to trade Elton Brand to make room for Blake Griffin, lol. The water treading continues for LA’s other team.
May 20th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Brand’s in Philly isn’t he?
May 20th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Shoot, never mind dogg, Brand signed with the sixers didn’t he….lol.
I better leave now before I claim Wade plays for the Nets!
May 20th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Where the heck is everyone? Twittering or whatever? Tweeting. Twits?
May 20th, 2009 at 10:40 am
then three straight runs against softer second team d. less than a minute ago
garcia’s first play; screen to gary russell for big gain 2 minutes ago
first team ran four run plays, none got anywhere 3 minutes ago
jon alston at slb, branch and hiram at safety. 4 minutes ago
finally, team drills. 6 minutes ago
jamarcus: 9 of 12 against air so far. 6 minutes ago
no mike mitchell, by the way. presumably a school thing. murphy and shaughnessy are here 10 minutes ago
maybe it’s just a confidence thing, but chaz looks awful good ruuning routes 12 minutes ago
passing game getting tons of reps, all against air, but still. 13 minutes ago
tollner very involved today, cable off to the side watching 16 minutes ago
ted tollner coaching wrs in this drill, very loud about it. trying to get these guys to cut perfectly on route 18 minutes ago
very slow pace, emphasis seems to be on instruction 21 minutes ago
none of this is vs defense 21 minutes ago
jamarcus all alone with hackett, throwing end zone fades to wrs. 22 minutes ago
still no 11 on 11s, back to individual drills 27 minutes ago
May 20th, 2009 at 10:41 am
# garcia comes in and fumbles snap. minicamp is backless than a minute ago from mobile web
# jamarcus back in: two handoffs, then out2 minutes ago from mobile web
# undrafted rookie o’neill beats tyvon branch. nice followup to minicamp2 minutes ago from mobile web
# that means he’s ahead of rookie shaughnessy for now4 minutes ago from mobile web
# greyson gunheim playing first team, interesting move with burgess absent4 minutes ago from mobile web
# then three straight runs against softer second team d5 minutes ago from mobile web
# garcia’s first play; screen to gary russell for big gain7 minutes ago from mobile web
# first team ran four run plays, none got anywhere8 minutes ago from mobile web
# jon alston at slb, branch and hiram at safety.8 minutes ago from mobile web
# finally, team drills.
May 20th, 2009 at 10:43 am
garcia comes in and fumbles snap. minicamp is back 2 minutes ago
jamarcus back in: two handoffs, then out 2 minutes ago
undrafted rookie o’neill beats tyvon branch. nice followup to minicamp 3 minutes ago
that means he’s ahead of rookie shaughnessy for now 4 minutes ago
greyson gunheim playing first team, interesting move with burgess absent 5 minutes ago
May 20th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Jonathan Holland and Chris O’Neill seem to be two of the most impressive pass catchers.
Maybe they’ll make the team ???
May 20th, 2009 at 10:47 am
first pass: hits fargas in shoelaces on 4 yd screen less than a minute ago
7 on 7, jamarcus throws against defense for first time 2 minutes ago
May 20th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Dakota
There should be someone on the board at #7. Why is that my teams both enbded up with the #7 pick? It’s a conspiracy man.
Elton Brand did nothing for the 6ers this year, I could see how you would forget. The Warriors didn’t renew Chris Mullin’s contract so now they have a new GM. I have no idea what this guy is about, I hope that he isn’t seduced by “small ball”, the W’s need a big man desperately. Griffin would havce been a nice fit. Now he gets to play with The Beard.
May 20th, 2009 at 10:48 am
quit throwing at their feet JaMarcus!
May 20th, 2009 at 10:50 am
this just in: gradkowski’ aim not good. not even close less than 20 seconds ago
final pass: screen to fargas, small gain, but completed less than a minute ago
3rd: dumpoff to gary russell, off hands, alston interception. 1 minute ago
2nd: hiram eugene pass deflection in traffic 2 minutes ago
May 20th, 2009 at 10:51 am
DEFENSE!
May 20th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Dogg,
Warriors should draft Earl Clark, Louisville. Need size, D and Rebounding, but they will probably draft Stephen Curry and give-up 140 points a night.
May 20th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Prayers go out to Phil Mickelson who left the PGA tour to be with his wife who was diagnosed with Breast Cancer.
May 20th, 2009 at 10:52 am
why all these screen passes to Fargas & G. Russell ?
McFadden & Bush are the ones who can catch passes out of the backfield!
May 20th, 2009 at 10:53 am
I played QB in flag football…maybe I could replace Garbagekowski for the OTAs?
Dakota in: pass play, he floats one up, intercepted by Sands less than ten seconds ago
May 20th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Vegas
I thought that Curry wasn’t entering the draft. Tell me more about this Clark kid, I would look myself but I am already multi-tasking to be on this blog today, way too much work and yet here I am
May 20th, 2009 at 10:55 am
crap, speaking of work I guess I better actually do some.
Talk to you guys in the PM.
May 20th, 2009 at 10:56 am
back to team drills: alston blitz sack up middle, beats lorenzo neal half a minute ago
john bowie with a little contact. the randy moss pick lives, though these are noncontact otas 5 minutes ago
May 20th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Alston is ACTIVE!
Ok, I’m out now for real. This place is addictive…
May 20th, 2009 at 10:57 am
third play: russell completes same pass this time. team taking water break
next play; jamarcus misses way wide right in flats screen. yells “s” word. wow. some emotion
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am
I think we are running so many screens right now because we were awful with them last year, even with two exceptional receivers and open-field runners in Bush and D-mac.
May 20th, 2009 at 11:00 am
without CJ & Nnamdi who is playing CB ?
Stan Routt, John Bowie, Jason Horton and Darrick Brown?
Mike Mitchell isn’t even here.
Russell should be abusing these guys!
even without Walker, Shields and DHB …
May 20th, 2009 at 11:02 am
1st: deep route to chaz, morrison steps in front for dropped pick
next team drills: jamarcus still struggling
May 20th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Thanks for these updates…
May 20th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Good work Rockstar!!
May 20th, 2009 at 11:04 am
last: throws behind wr, justin miller drops pick that hits both his hands on deep post
2nd: checkdown dumpoff to fb marcel reece at line of scrimmage.
May 20th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Actually, after reading about JRuss struggling, maybe I don’t want to see the twitter…
May 20th, 2009 at 11:04 am
no problem. got another meeting in 20 min. though
May 20th, 2009 at 11:06 am
mario henderson schooling matt shaughnessy as gradkowski throws td to murphy
for what it’s worth, garcia’s next pass was a backward screen for a turnover. keep in mind, it’s lot like nnamdi and c johnson are here
May 20th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Ahh, yes. Another Raiders’ off season workout. Running screen plays, using a versatile offense, running the football, looking sharp. It’ll all be scrapped by week 1, and we’ll be back to the 7 step drops. Vertical Game, baby.
May 20th, 2009 at 11:12 am
whats crackin MR?
u twitter?
May 20th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Vegas, you don’t ever have to apologize to me for talking politics. This is a blog based upon a team that hasn’t made the playoffs in over half a decade, and probably never will again. We have to talk about something.
May 20th, 2009 at 11:16 am
No, Rockstar. I don’t. Only a myspace page, and I rarely visit it. Never really caught on to networking on the internet. I’m old school. Still in web 1.0.
May 20th, 2009 at 11:18 am
I don’t either. I got a myspace that I check once per month. My wife uses Facebook
you can keep track of the mini camp updates at:
https://twitter.com/bydavidwhite
I’m headed to a meeting in 10-15 minutes. I won’t be able to keep copy and pasting from that page to this blog
May 20th, 2009 at 11:19 am
sorry for the pause, got chatting with louis murphy sr. dad is here
red zone drill; gunheim pressure forced jamarcus to throw it away
May 20th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Everything that goes on in these mini camps means nothing. Al will scrap everything and get back to the 7 step drop, deep comeback routes. Always does. Every year. Except for when Gruden and Kiffin were here, and notice the terms they left on. Cable does not have the balls to stand up to Al, so he’ll cave in like so many others have. I don’t care how smart he is. I don’t care how good of an offense he has (which, from what I can see so far, is pretty much Kiffin’s offense). It’s going to be Al’s way. And you know what Al wants, Russell throwing the ball downfield. Period.
May 20th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Our only prayer is if Garcia somehow winds up starting. Because he does have the balls to stand up to Al. He’ll call his own plays, Stabler style. He’ll just use some of his west coast plays and tell his receivers where to be, if he has to.
May 20th, 2009 at 11:24 am
MR, Ted Tollner has been running the offense this morning. Tom Cable is watching
May 20th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Vick’s Out!
May 20th, 2009 at 11:26 am
dad sees son go to his knees for nice catch. clap clap clap
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I hope Jerry Mac doesn’t get caught up talking to the players parents while we’re waiting for his update/report
May 20th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Vick’s Out!
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don’t get excited. He’s going to work construction for the next 2 months
Kinda funny that fat kid on the Subway commercials is making more money than Mike Vick right now
May 20th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Vick really screwed up. If he’d just beaten up his girlfriend, he’d be suited up and playing right now.
May 20th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Goodell has made it clear…if you want to hurt a living creature, make sure it’s a female human being. That’s fine. Do not mess with dogs, though.
May 20th, 2009 at 11:34 am
from reading david white’s tweet, our pass O still sucks
May 20th, 2009 at 11:34 am
three horns, practice ends
next pass, way over higgins head, routt with easy pick. not even close
finally, jamarcus completes something other than screen. over the middle to stewart for 12
May 20th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Goodell has made it clear…if you want to hurt a living creature, make sure it’s a female human being. That’s fine. Do not mess with dogs, though.
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you’re right. Cornell Green, Fabian Washington and Brandon Marshall are good recent examples of that …
May 20th, 2009 at 11:38 am
practice today was just 2 hours?
is there another one tonight?
May 20th, 2009 at 11:40 am
What’s up nation.
Vick will have another chance at playing in the NFL, but I hope not with us.
May 20th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Yeh, rockstar, it was just troubling seeing Goodell speak the other day and talk about how he won’t let Vick back into the league until he shows real remorse for what he did. If only he held the same standards to players who hit women. Nope. They do their weekend of work project and pay their fine, they’re back on the field.
May 20th, 2009 at 11:43 am
This was dam funny!
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Vegas,
What a mature statement. Too bad this is no place for grownups…
May 20th, 2009 at 11:44 am
be back later. that meeting has started
May 20th, 2009 at 11:44 am
From following along with all those updates…have to say it sounded like a pretty sorry practice for the offense. All 3 QBs apparently looked awful according to the reporter…
Every player on offense better be at all of those practice sessions leading up to training camp.
I still don’t understand why Tom Cable didn’t opt for the extra mandatory mini-camp afforded new head coaches
May 20th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Agreed!
Larry Johnson should be out of the league.
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Yeh, rockstar, it was just troubling seeing Goodell speak the other day and talk about how he won’t let Vick back into the league until he shows real remorse for what he did. If only he held the same standards to players who hit women. Nope. They do their weekend of work project and pay their fine, they’re back on the field.
May 20th, 2009 at 11:46 am
MR,
LMAO
May 20th, 2009 at 11:47 am
MR,
I agree with you about Michael Vick. Its ridiculous that he is being treated this way while other players…and people in general society…abuse children, women, strangers, DWIs, manslaughter, drug abuse, steroids (cheating), and all other sorts of mayhem and yet Vick is being isolated for fighting two animals….
Ridiculous
May 20th, 2009 at 11:47 am
And what Vick did was disgusting to be sure. But was no worse than the things people do to each other.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Hey, Jerry.
Ask Russell, since he doesn’t seem to be able to throw the ball at the receivers hands, but yet consistently is able to throw at their sho3s.
Does he have a foot fetish, or what?
May 20th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
You are talking apples and oranges here. If two adults get into a shoving match, either or both can be put on a 72 hour custody hold and take a Domestic Disturbance conviction. Mike Vick took a Federal Conviction for Animal Cruelty. Taking a federal felony conviction does not make the NFL happy. And if that is not enough, illegal gambling was involved. So, now you have a guy doing illegal activities which he then took a felony conviction for, that has ties to illegal gambling. After the recent gambling problems in other sports (looking at the NBA here) If I was Goddell, I wouldn’t be too happy about this either.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
I wonder about JR throwing at the feet. I saw alot of that last year.
Was this something that he was doing at LSU or did it come with his fur coat?
May 20th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Just to keep the Vick crime in perspective, my son (15 at the time) was hit in the face with a crow bar by a gang member who snuck up behind him. EMS had to stop and do CPR on the way to the hospital. After a stay in crash,stiches, a bunch of MRI’s and a stay in the hospital. He went back to school. And what about the The kid that hit him? He got PROBATION (a couple of months) and a fine. He was back in school in my son’s math class the next semester. If Vick can help the Raiders then let him play. If not let him go about his way and have a wonderful career in construction. Either way just another overblown ESPN story.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
#436 misses the point entirely as usual.
Numnuts, nobody is exusing M Vick gambling or dog fighting. The point is hitting a woman should warrant discipline and Goodell seems 2 not give a $hit.
Go pet your cat!
May 20th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Oakglenn, I don’t know if I understand a word of that. So I’ll keep it simple and just ask you one question: Is an NFL player hitting a woman worthy of the same scorn from Goodell as an NFL player being in a dog fighting ring? Are you saying that Goodell SHOULD be easier on players in his league hitting women than those those involved in animal abuse?
May 20th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Mista,
I watched a few LSU games, and I think it came with the Coat. lol
May 20th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
MR,
OakGlenn seems to have lost whatever sense he ever had at 1 time.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
MB, I’ll give Oakglenn the benefit of the doubt that he did not just advocate hitting women, so I’m giving him the chance to explain himself.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Raider O, thanks for the clarification.
Prob Kiffins fault for letting him wear the coat, right Priest ?
Im willing to give the Oaf 6 games and if he’s still throwing at the feet, over throwing wide open guys, under throwing wide open guys sit him the rest of the year and let him think about his actions, got that Mr Cable?
May 20th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
The punishment for Vick doesn’t fit the crime relative to what others get away with. I have no problem with Vick being banned for life…just be consistent and have perpective.
Cruelty to humans is far worse than cruelty to animals. If you forgive cruelty to humans…it seems perfectly reasonable to me that cruelty to animals should be forgiven as well.
So dog fighting gets fed time…while beating and emotionally abusing women is a simple misdemeanor…or boys just being boys?????
Gimmie a break!
May 20th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
If a player receives a felnoy conviction for the assault, Goodell should react in kind.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
MR,
I dont think OakGlenn is advocating hitting women he owns a cat for gawd sakes!
Maybe he has ADD, smokes too much dope, or just cant read. Im at a loss for words.
Oak?
May 20th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
I think what Oak is saying that Vick had a fed conviction for Gambeling and dog fighting, compared to domestic violence which is not a fed crime.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Raider O you might be right.
However we are talking about punishment Goodell can hand out. Of course FED laws are what they are, not at all the point Goodell can suspend or ban Larry Johnson right now if he felt compelled, seems as if he doesn’t care.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
new post
May 20th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
lol is a generic comment…
Just kidding, it really shows your insightful.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Federal crime or not, most domestic abuse issues do not rise to the level of a felony. Every employer should wait until a judge/jury decides the merit of a case, and if a felony conviction results then proceed accordingly.
For example, Barrett Robbins’ felonious behavior (not his AWOL SB binge) should keep him out of the NFL as a player, coach, etc. for many years. Not that he is any shape to try again, but his crimes were felonies. Thus he has a long time to wait and a lot to prove to get back in the NFL. Same should be true for any felon.
May 20th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
DT42 Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Just to keep the Vick crime in perspective, my son (15 at the time) was hit in the face with a crow bar by a gang member who snuck up behind him. EMS had to stop and do CPR on the way to the hospital. After a stay in crash,stiches, a bunch of MRI’s and a stay in the hospital. He went back to school. And what about the The kid that hit him? He got PROBATION (a couple of months) and a fine. He was back in school in my son’s math class the next semester. If Vick can help the Raiders then let him play. If not let him go about his way and have a wonderful career in construction. Either way just another overblown ESPN story.
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You are comparing what a child did to Michael Vick, an adult who was involved in organized criminal activities and then tried to cover it up. The Feds nailed him with RICO (although he entered guilty please to other charges as part of the deal).
Obviously the pain and suffering your child went through was awful, but the fact remains that juvenile offenders get a break and adults don’t. Vick should have gotten the time he did, and children should get a second chance.
May 20th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Dakota Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Dogg, sorry the W’s didn’t get one of the top picks…poor Blake having to play for the Clippers! Now the Clipps are going to have to trade Elton Brand to make room for Blake Griffin, lol. The water treading continues for LA’s other team.
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W’s could have used Griffin…poor Griff going to perennial top 3 in the draft the Clippers. Sad…
W’s should look to pick……
Tyreke Evans- big guard (he can play point) play defense and is a good slasher.
Earl Clark
Brandon Jennings
Demar DeRozen
Or Trade Down.
The W’s need to go after FA PG Andre Miller!
June 21st, 2009 at 6:24 pm
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