Bush still has a lot to prove
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, May 26th, 2009 at 9:08 am in Oakland Raiders.
Note: Attending a funeral service today . . . no Raiders chat. Hope everyone had a good Memorial Day weekend.
We’re in to the real dead period of the offseason, with no OTAs scheduled for this week and little in the way of speculation other than the status of defensive end Derrick Burgess and rumors regarding a trade.
Michael Bush was the subject of trade rumors himself this offseason, most of which never made much sense from the Raiders perspective because he’s an upper-tier talent playing for fourth-round money coming off a spectacular season finale.
Make no mistake, teams looked at the Raiders well-stocked running back position and came calling. There’s Darren McFadden, Justin Fargas, Louis Rankin and now Gary Russell (who can also play fullback) on hand, which would make another team wonder if they could possibly pry Bush away from Oakland.
Hard to imagine anyone would give up enough to make it worthwhile before the Raiders get a chance to really see what they’ve got.
And yes, being the sugar-coating Raider-hater that I am (I got told in the same chat last week I sugar-coated the Raiders problems and also was told I am a hater), I’m still waiting to see if Bush is all that.
For two quarters, Bush may have been the most spectacular running back in the NFL.
In Week 2 against Kansas City, Bush had 77 yards on 11 carries and had a 32-yard touchdown run in the fourth quarter to put away the Chiefs. In Week 17 against Tampa Bay, Bush had 129 yards on 13 carries and a 67-yard touchdown in the fourth quarter to spark a come-from-behind 31-24 win over the Bucs.
In those two quarters, Bush carried 24 times for 206 yards and scored twice on breakaway runs, averaging 8.6 yards per carry. He was the dominant force in two of the Raiders five wins.
If you want to anoint Bush as the second-coming of Jim Brown, play those quarters over and over and stop reading here.
Because other than those two quarters, when the Raiders were cut-blocking the opposition to ribbons with Bush and his 245-plus pounds breaking into the second-level untouched, he was ordinary. Even less than ordinary.
Minus the fourth quarters against the Chiefs and Bucs, Bush carried 71 times for 215 yards and one touchdown. He averaged 2.8 yards per carry.
Remove the two breakaway runs, both of which Bush may well have recorded in a flag football game, and his season yards per carry drops from 4.4 to 3.5.
Bush’s most impressive moment in the Bucs game didn’t come in the fourth quarter. It came early in the second quarter on a 4-yard run for the game’s first touchdown. On the play, Bush was met at the 2-line but drove into the end zone for the score _ his only touchdown of the season other than the long fourth-quarter strikes.
It’s the kind of play you expect out of a 245-pound back. With Bush’s strength and power, you expect him to destroy smaller players once he gets into the secondary. On the short run, he also took on players bigger than himself and drove them backward.
That was something the Raiders wanted from Bush last year, hoping he could take over short-yardage duties and get key first downs. There was a full-contact goal line drill during a night practice at training camp last year where the Raiders lined up Bush and ran him directly into the middle from the 1-yard line.
He was met by Kirk Morrison in a ferocious collision and didn’t appear to get in. The past few years, most everyone has managed to bag rushing touchdowns against the Oakland defense.
Yet after practice, coach Lane Kiffin went on and on about how important it was that Bush had proven he could produce in short-yardage. If Bush did score on the play, it was by an eyelash, and hardly the sort of emphatic statement Kiffin claimed at the time.
That’s the beauty of training camp, you can call a play a success even when it’s not as long as you’re the head coach.
As the season went on, Bush never became the back the Raiders went to on short-yardage. His use was limited even though Fargas had his usual assortment of dings and dents and McFadden had turf toe on both feet.
Bush openly balked when asked to play fullback in an emergency when both Oren O’Neal and Justin Griffith were lost for the season with knee injuries. It could have provided some single-back sets as well as pass receiving opportunities, and Bush happens to be a marvelous receiver.
It’s worth noting that on a couple of occasions, Bush appeared to line up in a fullback position only to shift out of it during the recent OTA. Maybe he is being more receptive to simply getting on the field _ the first step to staying on the field.
During the offseason non-contact workouts open to the media, Bush looks as swift and fearsome as ever breaking into the secondary _ just like he did in the fourth quarters against the Chiefs and Bucs.
But it’s not always that easy, and Bush’s next step is to prove he can be the back who can gain 3 yards on third-and-2 or get 2 yards on third-and-1.
Conventional wisdom has it that at some point this season, whether because of injury or simply a changing of the guard, Fargas will begin to be phased out in favor of Bush. Bush would then join McFadden in a two-back system, with both players being threats as pass receivers as well as runners.
Fargas, ever the team player, would recede into the background without complaint and be ready and waiting when someone got hurt.
Fargas is not as big as Bush, can’t catch the ball nearly as well and doesn’t have as natural a running style. Bush, on the other hand, hasn’t run with the same abandon as Fargas until he’s faced with someone smaller, although the short touchdown run against the Bucs was promising.
With Fargas around and should Lorenzo Neal still have enough left to make the team and be a contributor, Bush is surrounded by professionalism (not to mention a powerful lead blocker).
Whether Bush is truly an exceptional back or simply an intriguing talent who keeps you interested with a big quarter here and there will be answered starting in late July.
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May 26th, 2009 at 9:15 am
I like magic beans Rockstar!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 9:16 am
I hope Bush tears it up!!!
LET ER RIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 9:16 am
thanks Jerry!
May 26th, 2009 at 9:17 am
Forget fargas give it to Bush if you want to win, he will be getting the rock right of the bat, this is jruss,dmac and bush offense now!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 9:20 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 8:54 am
“Maybe Hammer could show Nnamdi some moves? you know he’s going to have at least 1 pick-six this year!”
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I don’t know about Nnamdi….Maybe Johnnie Lee Higgins would be a better candidate. I could see him making moves like this..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnKffHHLyjw
May 26th, 2009 at 9:21 am
lets 4get last season and have some fun =)
May 26th, 2009 at 9:21 am
The Rams went from jokes in 98 to champs in 99 we have the young gunz in Dmac,Bush,Chaz,Miller,Jruss,JLH if DHB can be that deep threat to keep the safeties outta the box and the o-line kwame free we should be vastly improved!!!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!
MITCHELL/BRANCH from game 1
May 26th, 2009 at 9:21 am
no OTAs scheduled for this week
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that stinks. now what are we supposed to do?
talk about Vick or Favre all week?
that’s what ESPN does!
May 26th, 2009 at 9:22 am
repost:
Burgess is just taking up a roster spot and is getting in the way of younger players who have potential and need playing time to grow and develop into solid NFL starters at DE. not oft-injured situational pass rushers
D-Burg is stealing time away from Scott, Shaughnessy, Gunheim, Sulak & Gray.
Richardson started opposite him and is injured right now. Doesn’t really have an impact on J-Rich …
May 26th, 2009 at 9:23 am
S&B: Nnamdi is too legit
I dunno about JLH yet …
May 26th, 2009 at 9:24 am
as always Rockstar,we will await your next post =)
May 26th, 2009 at 9:24 am
repost (for those who missed it) :
Coach Carter was once the lead dancer in MC Hammer’s concert troupe.
He was also Nnamdi’s trainer/mentor …
Hammer was born in Oakland and now lives in Tracy.
Maybe Hammer could show Nnamdi some moves? you know he’s going to have at least 1 pick-six this year!
Anybody spot Nnamdi wearing Hammer pants yet? that would be sick!
May 26th, 2009 at 9:24 am
RR,
Please, dont start the Vick thing!!
May 26th, 2009 at 9:28 am
“…both of which Bush may well have recorded in a flag football game.”
Fargas would have been caught from behind before the End Zone.
May 26th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Yet Fargas was given the ball 200+ times and didn’t have ONE game that was as dynamic as the S.D or K.C games.
I like Fargas. I like his attitude and his hard nosed style. But you gotta have playmakers on the field and Fargas is more a role player than a bonnafide playmaker.
What would happen if Bush got the ball 200x? And if Bush was on the trade block….I can guarantee you he wouldn’t be on the roster right now.
Its a business. Play the best players!
May 26th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Nhamdi is going to be in Pumps N Bump 3
May 26th, 2009 at 9:31 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 9:23 am
S&B: Nnamdi is too legit
I dunno about JLH yet …
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Too Legit? LOL…But can Nnamdi move like JLH does? I could see JLH in the parachute pants with a mic in his hand.
May 26th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Nhamdi is going to be in Pumps N Bump 3
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LOL
don’t worry Raider O … no Vick talk from me (yet) hehe
May 26th, 2009 at 9:33 am
In a perfect 2009 Bush&Dmac would throw more passes then garcia!
May 26th, 2009 at 9:34 am
S&B: Higgins doesn’t have the connection to Hammer like Nnamdi does …
JLH sure has the moves though! I still like his back flip the best though
Russell needs a parachute shirt
May 26th, 2009 at 9:35 am
be back later
May 26th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Oh snap!!…trade Bush for a great DT!
May 26th, 2009 at 9:35 am
The Lakers got SPANKED last night! Has Dakota been spotted yet? I worry about that guy destroying his home and everything around him, although his anger management skills have improved.
All the Lakers have to do is win 2 games at home and they are in.
May 26th, 2009 at 9:38 am
I read on some obscure Raider blog, not this one, that Russell has a chance of being cut this off season,..wow,..oh snap can that be true?…the blog say the Raiders wanted a qb from da Pats,..Oconnell?…sumpin like dat,..oh snap!!
May 26th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Too legit!!!! LMFAO
RR,
Do you think Goodell will let him play this season, or even the next?
May 26th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Lakers lost last night?…oh snap!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Later RR.
May 26th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Is Mike Vick gonna be a Raiduh?…oh snap im down wit dat!
May 26th, 2009 at 9:40 am
JR will be the Raiders QB for the next decade. IMHO
Oh snap…!! LMAO
May 26th, 2009 at 9:41 am
For da next ten years??????????? oh snap no way!
May 26th, 2009 at 9:41 am
bring on Mike Vick, oh snap!
May 26th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Cool the Raiders r gonna get Jerry O’Connell at qb dude was great as Vern in Stand By Me and My Secret Identiy was the shizz who knew dude also played for the pats .
May 26th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Chris Johnson could probably do a good Hammer impersonation given his time with Deion Sanders….
May 26th, 2009 at 9:44 am
we signed SS Keith Davis last week. since then? crickets.
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Camp fodder!!!! I remember two or three years back we signed Donivan Darius and I thought OHH YHEAAA!!!! a run stuffing saftey….LOL at that my kool-aid was a little too strong..
May 26th, 2009 at 9:44 am
That was kinda harsh jerry.sup nation
May 26th, 2009 at 9:45 am
No, Michael Vick is not going to be a Raider. The only chance of Vick being a Raider would have been if the Raiders had drafted Calvin Johnson in 2007.
Then the Raiders starting QB this year would be J.P Losman or Rex Grossman. In a desparate attempt to upgrade the QB position in an alternative universe, Davis would put a flier on Vick.
Not now though. Russell is his QB and he has McFadden and Bush to run the “Wildcat”
May 26th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Nothing matters but Russell. If he would stop thinking like a Millionare and more like a starting NFL quarterback (drafted #1 overall), the rest of the talent on the roster may shine through. …but until then we could have the most talented roster in NFL history and still be picking in the top 5 in 2010. We all know there is talent and we all know we have a coach with some football swagger, but what we dont know is if Russell can step up and use the plethra of talent he posseses to lead this team to a division title. We can talk about how bad azz our RB’s are, and what potential our Wr’s have but it all means nothing if Russell cant get his head out of his rear-end…
May 26th, 2009 at 9:47 am
408!!!!!
408!!!!!
What’s up man, I hope all is well with you.
May 26th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Forget fargas give it to Bush if you want to win, he will be getting the rock right of the bat, this is jruss,dmac and bush offense now!!!
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LET boobie spin if you wanna win…..come on coach…i’m fixin to spin….
May 26th, 2009 at 9:55 am
WOW SUP 408???
May 26th, 2009 at 9:58 am
fooouuurrrr ooooo eeeiiiggghhhtttt…………
May 26th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Sup brethren. My ip is still banned 4 calling scarry a lazy b1tch on cinco de mayo. So its whatever til i figure out how 2 change it. Raider on brethren
May 26th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Chris Johnson could probably do a good Hammer impersonation given his time with Deion Sanders….
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you’re comparing MC Hammer to Deion Sanders?
what an insult to Hammer!
pee on Deion!
he should tell that prissy DB “U can’t touch this”
May 26th, 2009 at 10:33 am
OAKlifer: I think we signed Keith Davis for several reasons.
competition at SS and a veteran there. Branch has little playing time there and Mitchell has none. Mitchell is finishing school and he can’t attend our OTA’s until he’s done that. Branch has been getting beat in coverage by guys like Tony Stewart, Brandon Myers and Chris O’Neill. that sends a red flag imo. Either he’s not ready or he relies too heavily on contact to break up a pass play. Gibril Wilson had the same problem. Branch was a CB in college and is probably better suited for FS like Huff. Unfortunately Hiram Eugene is a Tom Cable favorite and will get every opportunity to start there. Keith Davis is also a beast on special teams. If Branch becomes a starting safety they may not want to use him as ST gunner anymore.
May 26th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Come on Rockstar….tellin me that Deion can’t put it down…LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJWSm13LBh8
May 26th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Hey double R…
What do you think of the Jruss Pics???
He looked hammered in one and chubby in the other….Chubby is not a body tyoe thats a habit no???
And I love my Remi or vsop just like the next guy…but come on bro wit that chain and those eyes……..you askin for trouble exspecialy if he’s errant in the first few games…imho he gets a extra long leash from Davis and Co…but do you think there might be a time when davis wants him on the field b/c of $$$ and Cable says no were going to win how ever we can….is this possible????
May 26th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Oh snap!!!…sign mike vick!!!…i like him under center mo then russell fo sho!
May 26th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Keith Davis is also a beast on special teams. If Branch becomes a starting safety they may not want to use him as ST gunner anymore.
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understood……Davis does have more left in the tank then Darious!!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am
lol oh snap russell in dem pics,..too funny,..especially fo a dude dat sucks on da field,…oh snap, you can pose like dat all night if ya win some big games!!!…but oh snap he aint won a damn thing!
May 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Oh snap….slap mike vick!!!…i like him under ma mo than that dead beat fo sho!!!!!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Dogg,
I’m here…nothing was broken…
See, I watched part of the game last night and they got worked…I am a jinx!
May 26th, 2009 at 10:41 am
tellin me that Deion can’t put it down
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S&B: can’t view videos from work. youtube is banned
I know he was in MC Hammer’s “Too Legit to Quit” music video …
May 26th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Rockstar,
Unlike Deion, I don’t think Nnamdi could ever pull off performing with M.C Hammer AND Jean-Claude VanDamme….LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM7vqqS8jSI&feature=related
May 26th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Just what we need. a QB listed @ 6′ who’s really 5′9″ and can’t see over his blockers so he is forced to scramble. NO VICK!
May 26th, 2009 at 10:44 am
especially fo a dude dat sucks on da field,…oh snap,
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Oh…snap just counted all the hits from the Biz…..1…..oh…snap another lazy fat dude……
May 26th, 2009 at 10:46 am
I’m here…nothing was broken…
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Dont pI$$$ off Mr. Bryant he will go off for 45 or 50 and Denver will be working on their scratch golf game or defending brird mans hair cut on regis and kelly….
May 26th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Davis does have more left in the tank then Darious
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we were counting on Darius starting at SS. he just couldn’t get healthy and produce in OTA’s, training camp or preseason.
Davis is just a cheap, depth, special teams, veteran presence type signing imo.
May 26th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Davis is just a cheap, depth, special teams, veteran presence type signing imo.
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which is good that and our dline may be the shallow parts of our roster….I like it even if its a Neal/Garcia signing he can teach our young dudes alot!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 10:54 am
What do you think of the Jruss Pics???
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certainly doesn’t appear that he’s in shape or taking his personal life/reputation very seriously. he’s gotta know that as a high profile player he will always be under a microscope. Tom Cable called him out this offseason and followed that up by surrounding him with Garcia, DHB, Murphy, Myers, Barnes, Satele, Johnson and Pears. It’s obvious he’s trying to light a fire under his butt. Question is this … why should he have to? is he not self motivated? all this is moot if Russell learns the new offense quickly, drops a few extra pounds and lights it up in regular season games. more poor play and losing will only cause the critics to pile on even more. The only way to get anybody off his back is to produce in games on the football field. That’s the only way he’s gonna be able to shut up his coaches, teammates, media d-bags and Raider fans.
May 26th, 2009 at 10:57 am
YEP
May 26th, 2009 at 10:58 am
I don’t think Nnamdi could ever pull off performing with M.C Hammer AND Jean-Claude VanDamme
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Nnamdi might have political aspirations ala Kevin Johnson (mayor of Sac) after his playing days are over
May 26th, 2009 at 11:00 am
NoMoreFargas Says:
Cool the Raiders r gonna get Jerry O’Connell at qb dude was great as Vern in Stand By Me and My Secret Identiy was the shizz who knew dude also played for the pats .
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Now he’s known as Mr Rebecca Ramon. Oh snap
1 (what fu@k!n stoopid saying, Biz.
May 26th, 2009 at 11:05 am
One thing Jerry does not mention about Michael Bush is in the very last game against Tampa Bay, late in the game, Cable called a HB pass and Bush threw a 40 yard duck to Todd Watkins that resulted in a PI, but still got us a lst and goal, where we scored 6. Not too many 245lb full backs or HB’s are going to have that kind of versatility, and something defenses are going to have to be aware of and plan for.
May 26th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Come see JaMarcus Russell compete with Joey Chestnut and Kobayashi in the 4th of July Nathan’s Hot Dog Eating Contest as he seeks to break the record of 59 hot dogs eaten last year. This should start his Raider training camp off in style.
May 26th, 2009 at 11:14 am
That’s the only way he’s gonna be able to shut up his coaches, teammates, media d-bags and Raider fans.
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yup like I said I like my Remi and V.S.O.P just like the next guy maybe even the occassional head fix….but I show up for work every day and out work 75% people in my feild……so I agree if he prforms then it is a mute point just as it is you or I to open up fpr Mega Death then go to work the next morning!!! and Handle our BIZ….no not you biz
May 26th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Come see exlaraiderseasonticketholder compete with madden raider and biz markie in the 4th of July Nathan’s d!@k Eating Contest as he seeks to break the record of 59 d!@ks eaten last year. This should start his wrong side of the BAY training camp off in style.
May 26th, 2009 at 11:22 am
I show up for work every day and out work 75% people in my field
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me too. and I spend each work day off and on these Jerry Mac blogs
I can usually multi task. keeps me from getting bored here at work. only meetings interfere. some deadlines too toward the end of each month
May 26th, 2009 at 11:24 am
*Field….good work brother all the dead lines and we still keep each other in check!!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 11:24 am
well lets just say when it comes 2 Jmac,there is lots of room 4 improvment.He needs Fargas work ethic,imo
May 26th, 2009 at 11:25 am
What the matter OAKlifer, no sense of humor or did he take your spot in the contest.
May 26th, 2009 at 11:25 am
He needs Fargas work ethic,imo
yup or even Garcia’s….. but this kid should step it up big time!!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 11:26 am
I still don’t understand why Cable didn’t use that extra mini-camp available to new coaches.
I hope he doesn’t try the “good-guy” approach. This team has a lot of work to do this offseason.
May 26th, 2009 at 11:26 am
I think Russell will turn the corner. a lot less drama in Alameda than there was last year. Russell will have one more offseason under his belt, no Kiffin vs. Davis feud, 1 play caller, 1 HC and most of the disgruntled players got kicked to the curb. only Walter & Burgess remain and both are on the trade block. neither is around for voluntary workouts either
May 26th, 2009 at 11:26 am
LOL he took my Spot!!!!! or at least he looks like he could!!!!
nahh…bro its all fun and games just a little spunky today here!! didnt mean the personal barriage…..
May 26th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Nitwit there is no evidence of global warming. The planet is taking its natural course. Phony scientist make unfounded claims very much the same way you come in this blog and declare DMAC should be red-shirted in his rookie year.
Or when you said the NYG’s hardly blitzed in the SB.
Or like when you keep insisting Rob Ryan is not a steaming pile of poop.
# Oakglenn Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Actually the most idiotic rant EVER put on this blog was your asinine statements about global warming. And we have maddenraider and dude posting here.
May 26th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Russell just needs to win. However it has to happen…he just needs to win.
I don’t care what he does in his spare time or any of that stuff. He just needs to win. I think he knows that. Tom Cable knows that too.
Win games….this 6 yr stretch is about 3yrs too long
May 26th, 2009 at 11:32 am
OakGlenn, debate me on football this is not a political blog.
I gave my opinion on BUSH getting playing time over Fargas, whats your take on that seeing as you been sucking on Fargas like a hoover?
thanks
May 26th, 2009 at 11:33 am
I still don’t understand why Cable didn’t use that extra mini-camp available to new coaches.
I hope he doesn’t try the “good-guy” approach. This team has a lot of work to do this offseason.
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yes. this team is far from being able to compete with the dolts for the division. It’s only 3 more wins, but it’s a much tougher schedule. Cable has Cornell Green & Hiram Eugene on scholarship. Last year it was Justin Fargas & Kwame Harris … Al Davis pulled the plug on Fargas & Harris and guess what? Davis’ players McFadden, Bush and Henderson performed when Cable called thier numbers. Can AD or Keith Rowen persuade (or demand) Tom Cable to put the best players on the field, without making him feel like a puppet?
May 26th, 2009 at 11:35 am
I think mostly because Cable is a block head. Who else would take this job ?
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 11:33 am
I still don’t understand why Cable didn’t use that extra mini-camp available to new coaches.
I hope he doesn’t try the “good-guy” approach. This team has a lot of work to do this offseason.
May 26th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Dakota Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Dogg,
I’m here…nothing was broken…
See, I watched part of the game last night and they got worked…I am a jinx!”
Dakota
I am beginning to think the same thing about myself. It seems everytime I watch the Lakers they lose. I will no longer watch the games and they will win out. Don’t sweat it.
Last night was the first game this series that looked a little lopsided. Was it Smith that tripped Kobe? That was obvious man, I was feeling for you. The refs have too much influence on the outcome all too often in the NBA. That flagrant on Bynum was weak too.
May 26th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Boldin just fired Rosenhaus.
May 26th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Win games….this 6 yr stretch is about 3yrs too long
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Al Davis wanted to try the “win now” approach with experienced players and coaches after Callahan and company were tossed to the curb …
Turner & Shell failed with players like Kerry Collins & Aaron Brooks at QB. Jordan & Fargas at RB. Moss, Porter & Curry at WR. throw in Rob Ryan and his defenses that couldn’t stop the run for 5 years. throw in Eatman/Slater as o-line coaches in 2006. Walsh as play caller. yikes!
We should have drafted a QB in 2004, 2005 or 2006. We spent those seasons waiting for Andrew Walter to become “the guy”. It just never happened. Enter JaMarcus Russell.
May 26th, 2009 at 11:41 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Boldin just fired Rosenhaus.”
Boldin wanted something Rosenhaus couldn’t get him, money! He’s been trying since Fitz signed that extension last year with zero results.
Personally I think Boldin’s asking price is a little steep, around 10 mil a year from what I have heard.
Whoever he hires will need to talk him down a bit…
May 26th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Cable was scrambling sinse taking over 4 the traitor kiffy.Trying 2 win games,trying 2 mold his team etc etc etc.Then his father passed.Maybe Cable just needed time 2 catch his breath,thus the no partake in the extra mini camp,imo
May 26th, 2009 at 11:53 am
teams were interested in Boldin. even made offers to the Cards to try and get him.
same with Chad Johnson last offseason.
Drew Rosenhaus can’t force stubborn owners from the Tards and Bungles to part ways with thier disgruntled players. the players are under contract. both players even got new deals with thier club not too long ago. it’s not like these clowns are Top 10 WR’s still playing under thier rookie contracts at 500k. They have already cashed in and received guaranteed money in an extension. If some stupid team pays a CB more than 15 mil per season and Nnamdi holds out and demands a trade i’d say the same thing about him … you sign a contract, you honor that contract
May 26th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Cable explained his reasoning months ago.don’t remember what he said,but he did explain.
May 26th, 2009 at 11:57 am
24,
Don’t worry about it, I did the same thing to TW and Saint. When you have to go, you have to go!! lol
Assassins Creed is great, I can’t wait for the next one to be released. I think in November.
I can’t stop playing.
TW,
Do you like video games?
May 26th, 2009 at 11:57 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 11:53 am
teams were interested in Boldin. even made offers to the Cards to try and get him.
same with Chad Johnson last offseason.
Drew Rosenhaus can’t force stubborn owners from the Tards and Bungles to part ways with thier disgruntled players. the players are under contract. both players even got new deals with thier club not too long ago. it’s not like these clowns are Top 10 WR’s still playing under thier rookie contracts at 500k. They have already cashed in and received guaranteed money in an extension. If some stupid team pays a CB more than 15 mil per season and Nnamdi holds out and demands a trade i’d say the same thing about him … you sign a contract, you honor that contract”
Excellent point.
Owners may be stubborn and tight fisted, I would be as well, especially in this economy. But it is also widely known that Rosenhaus isn’t very well liked and many owners refuse to do business with the guy unless absolutely necessary.
Mark my words, Boldin will either have a new deal in place or be on a new team by camp.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
Boldin fired Drew because of Rosenhaus’s ongoing bromance with T.O.
T.O.’s new TV show, commercials, promotional appearances, etc = a ton of NEW money to Drew. Boldin is old news because Drew already got hi$, ya dig. Right now, keeping T.O.’s inflated head afloat is priority #1 to Rosenhaus — he’s a life-long paycheck that needs continuous nurturing.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
According to the list of Drew Rosenhaus clients on wiki, not one is a Raider.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Mark my words, Boldin will either have a new deal in place or be on a new team by camp.
Personally I think Boldin’s asking price is a little steep, around 10 mil a year from what I have heard.
Whoever he hires will need to talk him down a bit…
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Both great points!!! 10 mill is tooo much but he will get a new deal or new team!!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Bush has alot to prove?
Jerry…YOU have alot to prove.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Dakota Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Dogg,
I’m here…nothing was broken…
See, I watched part of the game last night and they got worked…I am a jinx!
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You jinxed us by not watching the whole game!
May 26th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
LMN – Yes. I used to love the PS1 and PS2 game stations and I love the controls but once I learned how to use the XBox360 it was over from there. The system is faster, cleaner and the game selection is far greater.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Justin Fargas sucks. Rankin is better than Fargas. I was really disappointed when they gave Fargas a contract. I would have cut him loose. He can’t run on short yardage, he can’t catch, and he never scores touchdowns. Only a poorly managed team like the Raiders would make him their number one back.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Raider O – I LOVED Assassin’s Creed. I liked how you could be free to do what you wanted in the game instead of being forced to follow the plot. Killing in the game is hella sick as well. Don’t forget to always do the leap of faith from every tower.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Kirk – Thank you.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
If some stupid team pays a CB more than 15 mil per season and Nnamdi holds out and demands a trade i’d say the same thing about him … you sign a contract, you honor that contract
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come on Double R….
its not like basketball where your getting gauranteed $$$….that same stupid team”ala raiders and meangleo” can cut ties with that player no matter what…it seems to be a more of an AT WILL employee/employer arrangment than a contract no???
May 26th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
According to the list of Drew Rosenhaus clients on wiki, not one is a Raider.”
Al Davis: As soon as you fire that scumbag Rosenberg we can talk. I don’t do business with vultures.
Boldin: Just give me my money.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Bo,
Just tell me what is right and I will do it! I must break this jinx!
May 26th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Bush may not have put great stats up overall in his “technically” rookie season but hes almost scored more touchdowns than Fargas after 1 year. Put that in your pipe and smoke it Jerry.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Just tell me what is right and I will do it! I must break this jinx!
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Step 1: buy a blazers jersery
Step 2: stand out side yelling BEAT LA
Step 3: repeat as necessary untill your desired results are achieved!!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
I told my friend that Kobe was overrated and couldn’t win a Championship without Shaq. He wasn’t happy but it sure was easy to get his goat haha. Kobe fans are so sensitive. Long live King James.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Dakota – Bleach your Kobe jersey and all will be fine.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
OAKlifer: say my boss pays me $100 an hour. good money, right?
let’s say i’ve been there for a few years and a new guy gets hired with more experience or potential than I have. They give him $120 per hour …
should I go to my boss and demand a raise? he’s paying me good money to do a job. i’m doing a good job for him getting an annual raise and bonus. great benefits. why should I care what somebody else is making? i’m providing for my family. the NFL is a sport to us, but to players & clubs it’s a business …
May 26th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Dakota Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Bo,
Just tell me what is right and I will do it! I must break this jinx!”
The only way to break the jinx is too not give it so much of your energy. Either that or burn a Carmelo Anthony doll in effegy in your town square.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Dakota Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Bo,
Just tell me what is right and I will do it! I must break this jinx!
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Must be watched live and sound must be on. Only channel surf during commercials and at half. Audibly rant only when Jack Nicholson does.
Then you will be a fan my son.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
if you burn it you have 2 bury the ashes in a box for 24 hours,dig-up and climb 2 the nearest mountain top and release is a west-ward wind
May 26th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Dakota – Maybe theres a problem with people living in Dakota and being a Lakers fan. You’re screwing it up for all the other fans so you should probably stop rooting for them altogether so they can finally win a Championship under the Shaqless era.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
In
May 26th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Guys,
Thanks for all the suggestions! After careful consideration I have decided on a course of action; I am going to bribe the officials to call the game correctly…that should end the constant over the backs that are not being called on the Nuggs and end the touch fouls being called on the Lakers.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
I am big on free enterprise. If Boldin wants more money then he either signs a shorter term contract or holds out.
The Cardinals either grant Boldin a new contract, trade him, or let him hold out…Cards don’t have to do anything against their will.
Its like the rookie salary cap discussion. A lot of people, me included, gave Al Davis a lot of grief during the Russell hold-out. But Davis didn’t want to pay the money. Only a long-protracted hold out got both sides to the table.
Its a free market system. No one is forced to sign anything. Boldin and Ocho signed their respective contracts. If they were so confident in their skills they should have signed short contracts…but they wanted the security of a longer term deal….now they are at the mercy of the teams that wisely locked those players up.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
let’s say i’ve been there for a few years and a new guy gets hired with more experience or potential than I have. They give him $120 per hour …
should I go to my boss and demand a raise? he’s paying me good money to do a job.
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First bro if you never ask for or demand your worth you will never get it!! I’m a firm believer that copmplacency holds down almost all of middle america!!!
Also man….if that same guy has more potentional than you and only makes 20$ more an hour as a buisness decsion you could be cut just like that no warning no nothing… in the real world AKA my SHieieity job!!! my boss can fire me anytime with out warning how ever if I want to quit I need to give notice or get a bad refrence….not cool!!! how ever neither my boss or have signed a CONTRACT (key word) if a player has to honnor this shouldnt the company as well???? I just think the conract thing should go both ways that being said are these athletes grossly over paid YES would we be happy with a fraction of that $$$ playin a game we love YES!!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Dakota – That won’t help in the Championship when King James is on the court. Sorry! Theres plenty of people already bribing the refs for him as we speak. Way more than Kobe.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
4evaRaider Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
if you burn it you have 2 bury the ashes in a box for 24 hours,dig-up and climb 2 the nearest mountain top and release is a west-ward wind”
4eva
Thanks, I forgot to include that tidbit of crucial information…
May 26th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
S&B-it wasn’t that Davis didn’t want to pay the money.he just wanted some insurances on his investment.and the way many on here look at JR today,it looks like Davis was justified.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Dakota,
Don’t feel too bad if you can’t be there 100% for the team. Many greater fans than you have failed.
As a kid I went to a Laker game at the Forum with a family friend who was an exec. with the Red Cross. Well, it was “Red Cross night” or something, because after the game we went in the Forum Club and I talked to Jerry West for 10 minutes! He said he is such a nervous fan (even as GM) that he can’t even watch the games live.
Well, I spit on his sho3s and promptly told Mr. Clutch that it was his fault we lost to the Celtics the year before.
(True story, except for the last sentence)
May 26th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Oaklifer,
But an employer and employee has to balance their offer to the next best alternative.
For most of middle america, even the more exceptional employees can be replaced fairly easily. Although it may be for a lesser talented employee, that new employee can most likely accomplish the tasks with enough competence for the organization to meet its goals. The exception to this would be careers dependent on relationships like sales or doctors. For example, say you are the best accountant in the world. Big deal…I could bring in a lesser talent and still get the books out on time.
In entertainment (sports, movies, media) the main attraction is the employee. Also, an elite receiver could put a team over the top and lead to a championship…just like a headline actress could make the boxoffice. Sometimes a player overestimates his worth. Boldin is a good receiver…is $10M a year good? No. The Eagles, Giants and Titans drafted rookies with their 1st rounders as opposed to using that 1st rounder to trade with Arizona. Why? They thought a rookie at $2 or $3 million a year was a much better deal than Boldin at $10 million because they feel they can still reach their goals and save money.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Boldin’s “plans” to fire Rosenhaus. He might just yank Drew off T.O.’s vine long enough to pay attention to his other client/s.
And…Michael Bush would’ve proven plenty, had he been given a lot of the opportunities JMac alludes to in this entry. Because he didn’t want to become a FB (even for a “short” time, with no assurance of ever getting back to HB), he was on the sideline more than he should’ve been.
Jerry makes a not-so-subtle point in this entry, too…and I’m surprised nobody’s commented on it yet:
JMac says Bush tends to not take on players unless they’re smaller than him. I don’t think that’s a very fair statement. First, Bush is as big as half the linebackers in the league, and he’s bigger than all the secondary backs. The fact that he hits the smaller guys in the secondary is because they’re ALL smaller than him back there.
Bush needs to be more aggressive than his would-be tacklers at the moment of impact — an aggressiveness that only comes with confidence in knowing you can compete with the best and toughest players out there.
The fact Bush had a few big 4th-quarters is no mistake — Bush is strong, fast and tough, and he doesn’t back down against anybody. It’s not like the guy is running out-of-bounds or avoiding (necessary) hits.
Even with his “stamina issue” when he was given the rock time after time in Tampa, he proved that he has the ability to get the job done. There’s absolutely NOTHING wrong with having a 245-lb RB breaking away for 45-yard TD’s at crucial times late in games — even if he IS running away from bigger guys.
MBush has more talent, and 25% more body mass than Fargas. Let’s just get his aggressiveness ratcheted-up to Justin’s level (without the pinball body getting hurt every game). A smart bruiser is what Bush is, and nobody should try to change his style.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
lefty12 Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
S&B-it wasn’t that Davis didn’t want to pay the money.he just wanted some insurances on his investment.and the way many on here look at JR today,it looks like Davis was justified.
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Regardless, Davis didn’t have to enter into a contract with Russell…he could have walked away…he could have tried to trade Russell’s rights to someone else…but in the end he chose to sign a large guaranteed contract.
That was Davis’ choice….and he did have a choice.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
SnB Defense-
But an employer and employee has to balance their offer to the next best alternative.
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Valid aruguement and if I were or am a buissness owner those types of decsions to save money while getting the same job done would be of the upmost importance..How ever if I am in a CONTRACT and I am expected to up hold my end whos on the other end to hold stuff up???? thats my question…I’m all for saving $$$ helll I’m even all for the youth movment for a cheaper price!!! But if the Cards can cut him at anytime under his “contract” then he should be able to walk or demand a raise dsnt mean he will get what he wants but it should be a 2 way street no???
May 26th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
if a player has to honnor this shouldnt the company as well???? I just think the conract thing should go both ways
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OAKlifer: the players have the NFLPA to represent them. the NFL is a union job of sorts. you can file a grievance. the NFL team is required to pay a player. It’s called guaranteed money or signing bonus. a player’s salary can be lost if he doesn’t perform or if that player has a younger or more talented replacement. of course you know all this. I’m just saying, I think it’s fair unless you have a guy like Marques Colston – a 7th rounder tearing it up his first 2 years in the league. Thomas Jones, Anquan Boldin, Chad Johnson and Derrick Burgess? These clowns need to shut up and play imo. Michael Huff was probably making more money than Nnamdi Asomugha in 2006 & 2007 before Nnamdi signed his new deal. When Nnamdi’s deal was up he got paid like he deserved. When Huff’s deal is up he’ll get paid 500k like he deserves unless he turns things around!
May 26th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
24 Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Dakota – That won’t help in the Championship when King James is on the court. Sorry! Theres plenty of people already bribing the refs for him as we speak. Way more than Kobe.
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That is true…I can’t compete with Nike wanting to crown Lebron as they did with Jordan. Kobe is Nike’s (and the NBA’s) red-headed step child…thus he doesn’t get all the calls Lebron gets.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
If a player plays more than his contract, there is a pool of money that is split. I read last month of many players getting additional money over their contract.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
He could have walked away-ridiculous-and nobody would have traded for his rights.also,i may be wrong,but didn’t Davis get some of the gaurantees he sought?i’m not trying to argue with you,just keep the topic about football and the Raiders.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
OAKlifer Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Valid aruguement and if I were or am a buissness owner those types of decsions to save money while getting the same job done would be of the upmost importance..How ever if I am in a CONTRACT and I am expected to up hold my end whos on the other end to hold stuff up???? thats my question…I’m all for saving $$$ helll I’m even all for the youth movment for a cheaper price!!! But if the Cards can cut him at anytime under his “contract” then he should be able to walk or demand a raise dsnt mean he will get what he wants but it should be a 2 way street no???
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Look at the literal interpretation of these contracts. From a player’s perspective, the real contract is the guaranteed money. Everything else is based on performance. If a player wants the option to move…he should place a clause allowing him to opt out of the contract if certain metrics are achieved or after a certain amount of time has passed. I think Nnamdi’s contract gives him a free agent option after 2 or 3 yrs.
No player gets “screwed” unless they aren’t paying attention to what their agent is doing. Just like no employee gets “screwed” unless they are forced to work against their will. And last I checked, that was illegal.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Bo,
I remember Jerry’s last season with the Lakers…he drove around LA during game six instead of watching the game at Staples Center when the Lakers took on the Pacers in the finals…
I know his pain.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
the Ca Supreme Court just upheld the gay marriage ban
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YES! this is the biggest SF loss since the day the 49ers hired Mike Nolan as HC…
May 26th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Oakglenn,
I agree that there is global warming and the green house effect. I don’t believe the Kyoto Accords were fair as they allowed China, Russia and other nations that pollute exemptioms that allow them to make up for US cutbacks. Let them have the same regulations that were to be imposed on us and I will gladly support the Kyoto Accords.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
I would like to be the first to congratulate Madden Raider and Duder!!!!!! way it go fellas a regular Johnnie and Clyde!!!!!!
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wait. you mean gheys in Cali CAN marry?
NO!!!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
I think it’s fair unless you have a guy like Marques Colston – a 7th rounder tearing it up his first 2 years in the league. Thomas Jones, Anquan Boldin, Chad Johnson and Derrick Burgess? These clowns need to shut up and play imo. Michael Huff was probably making more money than Nnamdi Asomugha in 2006 & 2007 before Nnamdi signed his new deal. When Nnamdi’s deal was up he got paid like he deserved. When Huff’s deal is up he’ll get paid 500k like he deserves unless he turns things around!
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Never thought of it that way I agree put up or shut up but on the same token if a younger better replacement comes and the team can either demand more of you or cut you…then when you feel you have outprformed your contract you should be able to voice your opinion yes!!! BUT then get right back to work and your boss will pay you if your worth it!!! (Thomas Jones, Anquan Boldin, Chad Johnson and Derrick Burgess none of which play more than they talk!!!) and are not worth Fitzgerald type of $$$$ and if I remember correctly that started this whole thing fitz getting paid and BoldTan getting 2nd fiddle!!! He should have done what Nnamdi done let his play do the talking thats class!!!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
lefty12 Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
He could have walked away-ridiculous-and nobody would have traded for his rights.also,i may be wrong,but didn’t Davis get some of the gaurantees he sought?i’m not trying to argue with you,just keep the topic about football and the Raiders.
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Why couldn’t Davis have walked away? Better to sign no deal than a bad one…right?
May 26th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
about time the 9th circuit got it right
May 26th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
the Ca Supreme Court just upheld the gay marriage ban
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YES! this is the biggest SF loss since the day the 49ers hired Mike Nolan as HC…
LMFAO
May 26th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
marriage ban….ohhhhhhhhh marrige ban…..sorry jhonnie and clyde maybe next time!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
S&B-could you imagine the outcry if Davis(or any owner for that matter,but mainly Davis)) walked away from the 1st pick in the draft?
May 26th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Peyton Manning seems to be irritated with the changes in the offensive coaching staff. Making uncharacteristic complaints in the media (at least for him)….hmmmm….imagine how Manning would feel if he was the QB of the Raiders.
I guess Russell has a better attitude than Manning. Russell has had 2 HCs, 3 OCs in 1 year…..LOL
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/26/manning-annoyed-by-staff-changes/
May 26th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Maybe if they procreate, in time they can overturn the ban. oops, won’t work.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
I have no problem with homosexuals getting married…it’s better than them running around brining it up the rear all over the place, lol.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
lefty12 Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
S&B-could you imagine the outcry if Davis(or any owner for that matter,but mainly Davis)) walked away from the 1st pick in the draft?
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First, since when has Davis cared what anyone thinks? Second, its a business deal. Are you saying that avoiding the outcry from fans and pundits is worth $60 million?
If I was an owner…I wouldn’t pay ANY rookie more than maybe $1 million per year. I would always trade out of the 1st round and stockpile 2nd round and 3rd round picks or get proven talent.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Oakglenn,
I agree that there is global warming and the green house effect. I don’t believe the Kyoto Accords were fair as they allowed China, Russia and other nations that pollute exemptioms that allow them to make up for US cutbacks. Let them have the same regulations that were to be imposed on us and I will gladly support the Kyoto Accords.
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Actually exla, I never brought up whether Kyoto is or not right for us, my point is scientists in 183 nations agree global warming is fact. And like you, I also agree. In fact, Most scientists in this country also agree. You have to be a knucklehead not to believe this. mistabrown obviously does not believe this is an issue. What does that tell ya?
May 26th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
I guess Russell has a better attitude than Manning
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he has a better appetite too.
what is it girls say?
the bigger the better? size matters?
oh wait. they aren’t referring to professional ATHLETES. nevermind
May 26th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Take a flyer on Greg Ellis? Yes or No?
CARROLLTON, Texas (AP) — Veteran pass rusher Greg Ellis won’t be back with the Dallas Cowboys next season.
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said Tuesday that Ellis would be traded or released. Jones said the decision came after a meeting with Ellis on Tuesday morning.
Ellis, 33, has been with the team since his rookie season in 1998. He had eight sacks last year, and has 77 in his career. His best season was 2007, when he came back from injury to record 121/2 sacks and win the NFL comeback player of the year award.
Ellis also has a recent offseason history of being unhappy with his role. He asked repeatedly for a trade or release after he was switched from defensive end to linebacker.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
S&B-i agree with your paying rookies.that is something that should be rectified in bargaining.what i ‘m saying is once you draft the 1st pick,you have to sign him.now,if you pass on selecting that pick,that is a different story.and it usually isn’t an option to trade the 1st pick.nobody wants it anymore because of the price.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Breaking News:
Jeff Garcia and his fake “playing career” wife now plan on retiring in Maine so Jeff can divorce the model and marry his true love, Sean Salisbury.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Actually exla, I never brought up whether Kyoto is or not right for us, my point is scientists in 183 nations agree global warming is fact.
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I love my Raiders!!!!
that said global warming is a “buissness” keeping the likes of Al Gore empolyeed…are we speeding up the process maybe…in fact probobly we are…but the Earths core has heating up and cooling down for billions of years with Scientific evidence to prove so..this was happing waaaay b4 we got here and will be happing long after we leave….its funny how when we were kids we were just rough and tumble fun lovin boys with a bit of an attitude problem…but now with “science” 6 out of every ten kids has ADHD or some other made up bs so the industry keeps going…and going…and going…..
May 26th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Dakota Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Breaking News:
Jeff Garcia and his fake “playing career” wife now plan on retiring in Maine so Jeff can divorce the model and marry his true love, Sean Salisbury.”
This story is picking up steam at just about every media outlet. I guess a few cell phone photo’s were found on Salisbury’s BlackBerry…
May 26th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
I would always trade out of the 1st round and stockpile 2nd round and 3rd round picks or get proven talent.
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me too. save money and get more picks. the more picks, the better chance you have to win in the draft if you’re a good talent evaluator. just like the lottery, the draft is a cr@pshoot. address positions of need and only get proven players in free agency or players that fit your system. stability on the coaching staff and front office. develop your own talent first. always put the best players on the field. if nobody wants to trade down, get the best available OL or DL and build the trenches. thats where games and won and lost.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Oakglenn:
FYI per wiki:
China’s GHG emissions have increased by 120% since the beginning of the decade, while U.S. emissions have barely changed over the same period.
China now exceeds the United States as the single largest GHG emitter, and accounts for more than a fifth of global GHG emissions.
China relies more heavily on coal-fired power plants, the most GHG-intensive energy source, than do most OECD countries. Between now and 2012, the increase in Chinese coal-based emissions will exceed the entire level of coal-based emissions in the United States
May 26th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
his true love, Sean Salisbury.
……………………………..LMFAO!!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Breaking News:
Jeff Garcia and his fake “playing career” wife now plan on retiring in Maine so Jeff can divorce the model and marry his true love, Sean Salisbury.
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I always thought it was T.O. You know the Love/Hate thang.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Breaking News:
Jeff Garcia and his fake “playing career” wife now plan on retiring in Maine
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is someone jealous? it’s not cool to covet another man’s wife Dakota
May 26th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
I always thought it was T.O. You know the Love/Hate thang.
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LOL. there’s also a bromance between Trey Wingo and Mark Schlereth.
Again with Trent Dilfer and Mark Sanchez …
May 26th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
lefty12 Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
S&B-i agree with your paying rookies.that is something that should be rectified in bargaining.what i ‘m saying is once you draft the 1st pick,you have to sign him.now,if you pass on selecting that pick,that is a different story.and it usually isn’t an option to trade the 1st pick.nobody wants it anymore because of the price.
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Actually you don’t have to sign a draft pick. If you don’t sign them by a certain point…that player re-enters the NFL Draft the next year.
The owners have to develop a backbone in all this. Not only are they paying rookies too much…but veterans too. Of course there is a salary cap, but there are few true difference makers in the league. The only ones I can think of would be franchise QBs, some running backs/receivers, Ray Lewis and a couple of the elite NTs in the league. Other than that, all the other players can be replaced.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Yeah, I always thought there was something fishy about Mark Schlereth’s mysterious weight loss.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Rockstar,
Sorry, but TMZ is reporting that Mark Schlereth likes older men and his current love interest is Tom Jackson. There are reports that Schlereth gave Tom’s Johnson a nickname: Little Stink…
May 26th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
I remember the rumors about John Brodie.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
me too. save money and get more picks. the more picks, the better chance you have to win in the draft if you’re a good talent evaluator. just like the lottery, the draft is a cr@pshoot. address positions of need and only get proven players in free agency or players that fit your system. stability on the coaching staff and front office. develop your own talent first. always put the best players on the field. if nobody wants to trade down, get the best available OL or DL and build the trenches. thats where games and won and lost.
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Unfortunately, the Raiders don’t share your philosophy. The Raiders have neglected the lines for so long its a joke. And then when they do, its of the speedy variety and then the team gets pounded into the dirt come game time.
I hope John Marshall is as good as they claim he is. He will need to do a lot teaching to this defense.
Which begs the question again, why didn’t the Raiders use that extra mini-camp?
May 26th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
SnB Defense Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Which begs the question again, why didn’t the Raiders use that extra mini-camp?
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For the same reason Cable stopped making the players stay past the end of practice until they got the plays right…we don’t want to upset the millionaires with extra work. God forbid Russell might lose a pound or two!
May 26th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
The only ones I can think of would be franchise QBs, some running backs/receivers, Ray Lewis and a couple of the elite NTs in the league. Other than that, all the other players can be replaced.
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umm…..what about The Walter Joness’ and Chad Hutchinsins of the world????? PAY THE O LINE TOO!!!!!
lol
May 26th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Oaklifer,
u got me on that one. Great offensive tackles belong in that elite category too.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
why didn’t the Raiders use that extra mini-camp?
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Al Davis is a players owner. He doesn’t want any of his speedsters to get injured ala John Bowie & Arman Shields last year. too risky!
Drew Carter & Oren O’Neal got hurt in the offseason too.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
S&B…..your right tho brother……you dnt make it till you earn it!!!1 I knida like the way the NBA is set up….think its a two or three yr deal with an option for an extra year with a cap on the salary…
May 26th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
anybody else think maybe Lane Kiffin’s all wheat, barley, grain and rice diet last offseason was in place to force Russell to put down the box of Krispy Kremes?
obviously Rob Ryan (HC of the defense) didn’t hold players to that. Terdell Sands looked like the marshmellow man last preseason!
May 26th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Jerry, if you know anything about big backs it normally takes at least 8 carries to get them going nd late in games when they’ve started to wear on the defense is when they are most effective. Rarely will you fing a 240+ lbs. HB breaking off big runs early in the game becyse the quickness of the defense counters what they do. But late in games the defense is slow to react and can’t take the punishment. Then MBush can be very dominant in closing games out. Tom Cable has said this many times.
DMC and Fargas early MBush and DMC late. That physical presence is tremendous late in games wether you’re up or down score wise. MBush can take over a game.
How do you think our record against the run got to what it is? Late in games big runs distorts the run stats especially against LT we’ve given up late runs to get him over the 100 yard mark.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
The NBA does have an advantage over the NFL when it comes to paying rookies…then again, they can play for many more years than an average NFL player…much less risk playing in the NBA.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Good post Priesttj, #173
May 26th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
No problemo RaiderDogg =)
May 26th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
BHP,
If it takes big running backs at least 8 carries just to get warmed up then how can we expect Bush to come in and close out games late when Fargas is getting his carries in the first half? Shouldn’t he get carries throughout the game to get him warmed up and ready to kick some ass in the 4th quarter?
May 26th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Take away Tomlinson’s break-away TD’s (and subsequent huge games) against one team — the Raiders — and L.T. is just another good NFL back…not one of the top-10 backs in NFL history.
Tomlinson owes his HOF career stats to Rob Ryan.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Al Davis is a players owner. He doesn’t want any of his speedsters to get injured ala John Bowie & Arman Shields last year. too risky!
Drew Carter & Oren O’Neal got hurt in the offseason too.
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But mini-camps are non-contact affairs. They aren’t hitting at all. I just think in an offseason where the “teaching” of fundamentals is the main tool to improving the passing game and the run defense….I would think that extra camp would be very necessary.
They have to stop running the NFL like it’s a part time job. This isn’t the 60’s or 70’s where many players had other jobs to supplement their incomes. These guys get paid enough money that this should be more of a full time job.
What professions do you know of that get 5 months off a year?
May 26th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
If Tomlinson player the Raiders 16 times a season he would rush for 3500 yards, lol.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Tomlinson owes his HOF career stats to Rob Ryan.
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shoot. Jesse Chatman would have HOF stats playing again the chefs, donks and raiders defenses the last 6 years …
May 26th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
But mini-camps are non-contact affairs. They aren’t hitting at all.
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tell that to Tommy Kelly and Mike Mitchell!
May 26th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Dakota Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
If Tomlinson player the Raiders 16 times a season he would rush for 3500 yards, lol.
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The Raider run defense has been an absolute disgrace the last few years.
John Marshall has his work cut out for himself
May 26th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
RaiderRockstar,
Speaking of michael mitchell. He better be the starter this year. Better be him and Branch.
Huff should just be cut at this point. The Raiders have drafted 5 safeties since 2006. FIVE!!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Oh snap!…just saw those russell pics!!!…what a bum!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Cut Huff?…oh snap no way,..cut Russell!!! boooyyyaaa!
May 26th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Just so you guy’s know. Every year there is a draft held and you have to select players for your team. These players play specific positions. And they sometimes are safeties, corners and such, and get this. The run fast, some faster than 4.4 40’s.
And another thing, did you know that the average NFL players career only last 4 years. WOW! can you believe that? only 4 years….
So as a result you have to constantly draft players at the same position. Or else you’ll get very thin at that position. That’s why I guess we draft safeties, corners and and WR’s and all these same positions all the time.
WOW! now I get it Elmo…….the deeper you are at sme psotions the better off you are because of injuries and all the things that can happen to an NFL player.
That’s why we draft so many secondary players cause there are 4 different positions in the secondary. The same as WR’s, Olineman, Dlineman and every position.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Huff should just be cut at this point. The Raiders have drafted 5 safeties since 2006. FIVE!!!!
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Michael Huff is one of our better cover guys. I’m not reading reports of him getting beat by Tony Stewart, Brandon Myers or Chris O’Neill like Branch is and Mitchell was. We all know Jerry McDonald is the first one to jump all over Huff. Hiram Eugene is average talent. He would be a depth guy on most teams, not a starter. Huff at SS was a mistake, just like trying Brayton at OLB and DT. Just like having Sapp play DE in a 3-4 defense. Huff should have been a corner in the NFL, no matter what scouting reports said. scouting reports said Malcolm Jenkins was a safety too, but the Saints drafted a corner. If Huff couldn’t cut it as a CB, then move him to FS. No way should they have ever put this kid in the box with such a poor front seven. I bet he would have been a pro bowler on most other teams. He may not even start this year because of Cable’s fondness for Hiram Eugene.
Even if you don’t like him, the cap hit would be awful if we cut him this offseason. We’d be better off to wait until next year when it wouldn’t hurt so much. That way he also has a chance under a real DC.
Branch got injured on a non contact ST play last year. Mitchell never faced anything similar to an NFL receiver in college. He’s gotta learn to cover and catch guys before he can lay a big hit on them. not every pass is going over the middle S&B. he’s not going to tackle every RB running at him with a full head of steam who already sees paydirt
May 26th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
The QB is a donut away from being offsides or being his own left tackle. What is WR reciever that cant catch= a trackstar or a CB? With Al the raiders are in trouble. The only stable part of this team is th running backs, although can Mcfadden stay healthy.
Shoulda drafted a new owner.
bY the way Go Nuggets
May 26th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Just read on PFT that Matt Jones won’t be facing a suspension this year. He would be a good pickup for the Raiders:
– Cheap because of his off-field issues
– Height-weight-speed specimen
– Only 26 years old
– Quietly played much better last year, with 761 yards and 65 catches in 12 games. That projects to 85+ catches and 1,000+ yards in a 16-game season.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Has anyone noticed the size of NYG Dline, WOW! they are not very big but they play great run defense. Maybe because they are disciplined and play sound gap defense.
What a concept!
May 26th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
The QB is a donut away from being offsides or being his own left tackle.
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how did Russell & McFadden do against dungver last year? with Cable in change you clowns got spanked
May 26th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Rockstar,
I agree that there’s no point in cutting Huff and the Raiders should give him another year to see if he can catch on. But don’t go overboard on defending him. He hasn’t done anything in three seasons (1 career INT) to suggest he deserves the benefit of the doubt over Mitchell, Branch or Eugene.
If I was the Raiders, I’d try him at corner. I think he will eventually emerge as a good player at CB, possibly with a cover-2 team.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
You mean the first game, when Royal was intrduced to the world. The second game higgins and the first turnover won it for the raiders that and 4 Bronco defensive starters out. I think both the Donks and the Raiders should look at is what they did against the Bolts. I mean you cant win just 4 or 5 games every season and be calling people clowns
May 26th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
I think bush can be one of the best backs in the league
May 26th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
RaiderRockstar,
2nd round picks are usually expected to be starters or significant contributors. No way the Raiders draft Mike Mitchell if they believed in Michael Huff. They also passed on a lot of D-Line talent to get him.
Huff is another situational player. The Raiders need complete ball players on the field. 2nd round pick Mike Mitchell needs to be starting come this fall
May 26th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Truth be told RRS, there is a certain amount of fear out there that Russell WILL be successful. Because if he is, look out. All the fat jokes and ridicule will soon either be stopped or legitimized. No in between, if this is a success the Raiders are going to be a real factor in the playoff race in the not to distant future.
And what people say wont matter. If they can’t play.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
don’t go overboard on defending him. He hasn’t done anything in three seasons (1 career INT) to suggest he deserves the benefit of the doubt over Mitchell, Branch or Eugene.
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the Raiders have MORE money invested in Huff than Mitchell, Branch and Eugene combined. I think it should be an open competition. may the best man win. If they never allow Huff to get time with the starters it’s not a fair fight. He’s already in the doghouse and you’re going to pay millions for a special teams/depth guy who might as well be Keith Davis. Either that and pay a truckload just not to have the kid on your roster, depite the fact that he’s trying to improve his game and he’s not a disgruntled player.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Rockstar,
Huff is behind Hiram Eugene. Cable does not like Michael Huff. That’s clear. He praised Eugene as one of the team leaders. he then compared Mitchell to Jack Tatum….plus all the media heat they’ve taken with the Mitchell pick.
No, Huff is all done. If he stays, it will be for salary cap reasons. Otherwise he’s outta here.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
No way the Raiders draft Mike Mitchell if they believed in Michael Huff. They also passed on a lot of D-Line talent to get him
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Mike Mitchell is a SS. Mike Huff is a FS
how do you know we would have drafted D-Line? For all we know we could have drafted Louis Murphy in Round 2. Cable said that he and Davis pegged Murphy as having 2nd round talent. we obviously weren’t thinking DT in this draft
May 26th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Food for thought:
Remember the Vince Young pictures? The ones where he was holding the bottle of tequila, while partying shirtless? Remember how everybody said it just showed his immaturity, and it severely affected his career (non) development?
Guess what!! The guy holding the bottle of booze is none other than Michael Huff, not the vilified Vince Young. There’s Michael, shirtless, seemingly sh*tfaced, and lovin’ life at the moment.
Does it matter what position a guy plays, or where he was picked — or are all athletes held to the same standard, when photos and other possibly salacious material surfaces?
We talk about Javon’s party ways…what about the young guys who we count on to grow into professionals in a hurry? Who decides what’s inappropriate or overboard?
Russell’s pics? Just like us, JaMarcus Russell’s got a right to a party lifestyle — when (IF) he fails to grow and produce as a starting QB, that’s when he’s partying too much.
These pics are a great wake-up slap to JaMarcus…maybe even the best one he’s had since he left college. We better hope so.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
If Hiram Eugene starts and both Branch and Huff sit I hope it’s because Hiram Eugene is the most talented player of the three. not because he’s on a Sam Williams type of scholarship.
otherwise we’ve got another Justin Fargas starting over McFadden & Bush type scenario.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
see you guys tomorrow …
May 26th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Rockstar,
Cable also said he wished he had more Tyvon Branch’s. Huff is in the Cable doghouse. I’m telling you the goal is Mitchell and Branch out there.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Peyton Manning on the coaching changes:
Not knowing the details during the process irritated Manning, who faced losing his two most trusted coaches.
“It’s not a situation that I’m just thrilled about,” he said. “I think the communication has been pretty poor in my opinion. Somebody says one thing, then somebody else says another thing.
“It’s not normal not having a full coaching staff,” Manning said. “I know we hired a couple of guys to come in, but these guys are learning. They’re not offering a lot of coaching out there, I can assure you of that.”
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Its a good thing Russell doesn’t sell his coaches or teammates short in the media. Look at Manning complaining already about his 1st offensive coaching changes in 11 years of pro-football….Manning wouldn’t be able to cope in Oakland.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
No it doesn’t matter as much but as far as a QB goes the leader of the team. It can have it’s issues due to perception. However IMO Rusell’s partying is normal as far as partying goes.
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If the team let’s it affect them, then it’s a problem. However the chance of that happened is slim and none, IMO. All these players party. Some much worse than others.
Soon enough as I mentioned Russell’s play will speak for itself, and all the talk in the world wont matter.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Similar to the WR situation, we have enough talent for 2 to emerge as solid starters at S. Now can our Dline stop the run…..
May 26th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
The problem isn’t Manning whining — he’s got a right to be pi$$ed.
Indy has had an offense of NFL legend for a decade, and there was no need or reason to replace those two great coaches. But, the NFL in its infinite fiscal wisdom changed the rules on those guys, and they had little choice but to retire.
Manning’s right about the newer coaches learning more than coaching, too — anybody know a young assistant who knows more about playing QB or calling plays than Peyton? They don’t exist.
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it…but the NFL owners forced Indy to “fix” their offensive braintrust. Like him or not, Manning’s right (on the money, unfortunately).
May 26th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
I don’t care how much partying Russell does as long as he keeps his fat ass from exploding and he wins some games. Rodman partied like a rock star and still kicked ass for 82 games because he still did his conditioning and studied the game between parties…partying isn’t the problem, the lying around doing nothing afterwards for 2 or 3 days might be a problem if that is what is happening.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Sanjay Lai, green coach too.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
If manning wanted those coaches to stay he should have done the math and figured out how much those guys would be losing in their pensions if they stayed on with the team and then paid them out of his own pocket…otherwise stfu.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Green coach isn’t necessarily a problem. The problem’s when the coach/player formula is working — and Indy’s worked like few others, ever — and then it is changed by forces beyond the control of the coach and player. No playing field, let alone an even one.
Sanjay? Hope he’s a great young coach, and this coaching staff grows much like Indy’s has over the past 11-years.
Sanjay — don’t get tossed off the island!
May 26th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Oh snap,..I think the Raiduhs should git a new quarterback!
May 26th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Pau Gasol walks like a girl.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
All Euros walk like girls KK.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
I see.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
KK-it was mentioned that Tollner(?) was doing quite a bid of talking to the WRs at the mini camp and ota,so Lai is getting help from older,experienced coaches.nothing wrong with green coaches if they aren’t “know-it-alls” and are willing to learn from older experienced guys.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
So, Dakota — Manning should be responsible for picking up pensions, life and health insurances, and other costs…to pay those coaches what they’ve been working toward their entire careers?
The NFL owners changed the rules in a cheap-skate move to save money they blow so easily elsewhere. That Peyton Manning says it’s wrong isn’t the issue — it’s whether or not it was wrong to not make this new rule retroactive.
The NFL’s supposed to give us the best talent in football…and that includes the coaches, who are now getting literally screwed while the owners tighten their belts.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Green Receivers, Green Receivers Coach. Being supervised by Tollner?
May 26th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Welcome to the real world Manning.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Oh snap!!!bring on Mike Vick!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Oh snap!!!Lakers suck!!! yuk yuk yuk!!! weeee!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Oh snap!…go Nuggets!
May 26th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Dakota,
Don’t worry, I called Lakers in 7 against Denver. Matchup problems and Ref problem’s LOL.
May 26th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
KK-that’s what was mentioned.
May 26th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
# KoolKell Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Green Receivers, Green Receivers Coach. Being supervised by Tollner?
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Actually, I think Tollner was the WR coach on those Buffalo teams with Jim Kelly and Andre Reed and Thurman Thomas in the late 80’s. He probably knows something about coaching WR’s.
May 26th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Jerry, you sugar coating hater! “Remove the two breakaway runs, both of which Bush may well have recorded in a flag football game, and his season yards per carry drops from 4.4 to 3.5.”… yeah, and romove the 40+ runs from Barry Sanders’ carreer and he sucks… Stats are Stats don’t remove anything or you’ll skew the whole figure.
May 26th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
# los raiders de don rober Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Jerry, you sugar coating hater! “Remove the two breakaway runs, both of which Bush may well have recorded in a flag football game, and his season yards per carry drops from 4.4 to 3.5.”… yeah, and romove the 40+ runs from Barry Sanders’ carreer and he sucks… Stats are Stats don’t remove anything or you’ll skew the whole figure.
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Good point. The thing I’d also add is that he was also inserted in some 3rd and short or goal line situations which also skew the stats and bring down his average. You have to look at the numbers as a whole – large runs and small runs alike. Don’t remove and manipulate.
May 26th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
What else are we talking about in here. Russell’s partying? Jerry – you missed the point! I have no problem with a player that likes to party. What I do have a problem with is that spare tire he’s got wrapped around his waste.
May 26th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
http://www.letsgooakland.com/
May 26th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
I’d like to vote to keep the A’s in Oakland but I wouldn’t mind seeing them in Fremont because they’d be closer to where I live. That why I don’t mind seeing the Raiders/49ers share a stadium in Santa Clara. I wouldn’t have to travel far to see the Raiders. I’m selfish.
May 26th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Vegas Raider – That is just wrong. You are in Sin City. You shouldn’t have to abide by any rules.
May 26th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
I’m going to Vegas on June 18th for my cousins wedding on June 19th and I’ll be there until the 21st.
May 26th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Sorry Vegas. You’re one of my favorite posters. It’s not like you are a bomb thrower. What happened?
May 26th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
#241 say what???
May 26th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Kool,
I don’t know, it’s not like my company would do something “behind the scenes”, they would just tell me to stop blogging or we will can you. So I guess the mod wasn’t having it. I know I went off on the politics a week or so ago, but I guess I went too far becuase it stopped “working” last Friday. I honestly don’t think Mr. Becker PERSONALLY liked what I was preaching.
Sad thing is, I was preaching for registration and look what happened. Kind of humbling I guess.
Raider On!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Who is Mr. Becker?
May 26th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
24,
It’s going to be hot. Vegas secret, Treasure Island buffet is the best hands down, and it’s half the price of the Bellagio, Ceasers, Venetian and the like. Just went on Sunday, been like 20+ times and I love it everytime.
May 26th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
what about “dancers” V.Raider at the buffet?
May 26th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
I would think Becker is more from your side of the street, Vegas.
May 26th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Vegas Raider – Thanks. I’ll be staying at the Excalibur. The price was pretty good to stay there.
May 26th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
koolkell are you implying our “man” in vegas is light in the loafers, or a former rams fan?
May 26th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Vegas Raider – How old are you if you don’t mind me asking?
May 26th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
A little weird 24
May 26th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
I must take a nap. My eyes are rolling over here. I’ll catch up later.
I’m almost 27 and I feel like I have to take a nap all the freakin time. Its getting ridiculous but studies said something like…Men who take naps reduce the chance of a stroke by 47% or something like that so I should take the advice.
May 26th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
you’re a little young to be consumed with stroke fright, though i do back (not literally) naps.
May 26th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
24,
29, Excalibur is south strip, kind of a dive for the strip but right next to Luxor, MGM and others so great location. They have this Camelot feast thing where you see some midevil show and eat dinner with your hands and no silverwear. It’s kind of what it is known for.
May 26th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
you gents seem a little too food focused..
May 26th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
On a football note, Bush’s KC game was also marred with his fumble in the 4th quarter. The chiefs pretty much gave up that game and the O-line was dominating, so the TB game was much more impressive for him.
May 26th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Yes, it was much more significant, if for revenge purposes, if nothing else.
May 26th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
I was thinkin if anything its a relief to hear Al Davis be realistic about where this team is. We still has a lot of holes to fill, but I like the way they are building this team, by harvesting our own.
May 26th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
that’s true, though the jury is out on several of his personnel decisions, what a weird and lame situation we are curently mired in…
May 26th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Thankfully our division was won at 8-8 last year and SD, KC and Den might have all taken a step backwards, even if just slightly.
Den has no Cutler now, new coach who isn’t skilled in beating us, and still no D. KC has a new coach, a potentially way over-hyped young QB and no Gonzalez and probably no LJ. SD just got older, still has Norv and didn’t do much adding to the team.
8-8 or 9-7 could feasably still win the division. If we were in the AFC east, AFC north or NFC south, we would be foolish to have any sense of optimism.
May 26th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Trade Bush for a draft pick,..oh snap trade Russell too!
May 26th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
biz mark:
i dont think J’Russ carries much market value currently…
May 26th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Then release him..oh snap, thats the thing to do fo sho!
May 26th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Wow…It died in here post nap.
May 26th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Biz and Chris congrats on the marriage!
May 26th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
PHOENIX — The 4-year-old daughter of boxer Mike Tyson died at a hospital Tuesday, a day after her neck apparently got caught in a treadmill cord at her Phoenix home, police said.
Exodus Tyson was pronounced dead just before noon, police Sgt. Andy Hill said. She had been on life support and police have said their investigation showed her injury on Monday was a “tragic accident.”
“There are no words to describe the tragic loss of our beloved Exodus,” the family said in a statement. “We ask you now to please respect our need at this very difficult time for privacy to grieve and try to help each other heal.”
Police said Exodus either slipped or put her head in the loop of a cord hanging under the console. Her 7-year-old brother found her and told their mother. She took Exodus off the cord, called 911 and tried to revive her.
Responding officers and firefighters performed CPR as they took the girl to the hospital.
May 26th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
My God, what a shame. My prayers and condolences to the Tyson’s no one deserves this. I can only imagine how crushed he must feel.
If I lost my daughter I would serious not want to live.
Words can’t explain how heartbroken I am for him.
May the true God be with you and your family Mike.
May 26th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Well said BHP.May she rest in peace.Prayers to Iron Mike and his family for there tragic lose
May 26th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
What’s up R8?
May 26th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Oh snap, thats terrible news,…Ala bless Iron Mike,..tough tough loss.
May 26th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
that’s sad, poor Mike.
I don’t know what to say!! May she RIP.
May 26th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Raider O,
I have been meaning to ask you what your beef is with how Jerry covers/comments on Russell. You made a comment a few days back and I was just curious.
May 26th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Dude,
I feel that Jerry adds his own negative twist on JR’s news.
May 26th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
I don’t want Jerry to alter the news, but I don’t want him to add his negative twist on things.
May 26th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Do you take issue with him saying Russell had a bad practice? I guess I dont get what your talking about. If the kid played bad, he played bad. Seems to me he prefaces almost every comment with ” Its only May”
May 26th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
It’s only negative if he is wrong.
May 26th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Dude,
He does say it’s only may, but after he makes an issue out of it.
May 26th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Oh snap dats awful news about that little Tyson girl dying on a treadmill,..at least we know that Jamarcus Russell will never die that way,..oh snap!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Look people,
If JR goes 1/15, then jerry should report that.
The problem is that Jerry will add a little spice to make more interesting, and I understand that. He is a reporter, but does it always have to be negative?! Look at todays post!!
May 26th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Makes an issue out of………….
Its the dudes 3rd offseason. Bottom line, he should be better versus air. Jerry reports what he sees. I havent read one article from ANYONE who says anything different from Jerry. Its a consensus, Russell isnt throwing well.
May 26th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
What about todays post has you up in arms?
May 26th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Whats up o
May 26th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
When J-Russ is 0 and 3 talk to me….
May 26th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Breaking down Bush’s stats, and taking away a few runs to show an avg if 3+ yards/ carry. Who does that?!! You judge a RB on total carries, and you don’t pick and choose runs!!
May 26th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Of 3, sorry.
R8,
What do you think about this topic?
May 26th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Oh snap, stop defending russell, hes a bum,..and saying hes a bust is so silly cause everyone already knows dat,..oh snap!!
May 26th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
R8,
Before you answer, are you OK to post?
May 26th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
I didn’t defend Russel, oh snap!!
May 26th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Bush is slow, and his attitude sucks,..oh snap I take fargas over him any day of the week, especially sunday!
May 26th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
In Raider *Glory* form late 60’s to early 80’s you would be hard pressed to name running back. Please don’t mention Marcus or Bo…..
May 26th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
D,
talk to me when he’s 3-0 or 2-1….
May 26th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
LMAO… your a funny guy…
May 26th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
D,
I’m 30 years old, all I know from those days is what I hear from older fans, read, or watch on TV.
May 26th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Oh snap do you doe doe birds really think Garcia was brought here to mentor???????????? oh snap hell no!
May 26th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Raider O – Are you saying you would prefer Jerry to report the facts instead of adding his opinion into the mix like his sarcasm?
May 26th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Biz Markie – Whats wrong with you?
May 26th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
R8,
Give me a few Mins, and I will be like a monkey with a keyboard!!
May 26th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
24,
YES!!!!!
Sorry but English is not my native language, and the pot doesn’t help. lol
May 26th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
watcha mean whats wrong with me?…oh snap not a flippin thang…whats wrong with you smarty pants?
May 26th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
no beer tonight…have to pay bills first…i think Bush is going to really push fargas to the sidelines this summer..he just need to learn to pick up blitzs better. He had way more tools then fargas (catching and throwing).he will imo have a good to great year i say 700 yards on the ground and 300 catching the ball out of the backfield
May 26th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
O,
That is a problem. you should form your own opinions and ALWAYS back up the home team. I have been East Bay (Raider, Warrior, A’s ) fan All my life and even thought the last few years have been down I will match good times with any city!
May 26th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Raider O – Well…The rules of a blog are different then an article in a newspaper. This blog is supposed to be on the opinion of Jerry but with that, hes reporting whatever he sees and Jerry honestly doesn’t see much because he doesn’t report anything new, he only reports what we already know. In other words, your expectations are off because Jerry is doing exactly what hes being paid to do and its up to you on whether you want to read it or not. What probably keeps you coming here, is the opportunity to talk with other Raider fans, otherwise this site would be useless.
Main Entry: blog
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Example: Typically updated daily, blogs often reflect the personality of the author.
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May 26th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
[...] Read more. [...]
May 26th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Raider O,..if the pot dont help,…oh snap,..try something that does,..or are ya an idiot? oh snap!
May 26th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
I have partied with Matuszak, Hendricks and many others and if I based my opinion on that I would be wrong. They were able to play when it counted!
May 26th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
24!,..oh snap!!!….nice post,..if I want to get to sleep early I will print it and read it at bedtime,..I bet I get to about half of it before Im snoozin,..oh snap you are boring!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Guys,
Is it me, or is tonight really weird??
May 26th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Jerry’s blogs are made up of his own opinion and its his chance to tell us what he thinks. We spend all day telling people what we think while Jerry does it in an article form instead of conversating with us back and forth on a regular basis.
May 26th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
If Youtube, twitter, Facebook and the like was around then look out….!
May 26th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Biz Markie – Yes…I’m boring but you’re retarded.
May 26th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Raider O – In what way?
May 26th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Oh snap, I’m an idiot!! Thank you.
May 26th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Its like Norco Biz….kinda creepy…
May 26th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
24,
This blog!! Look at it!!
I miss the old days, before reg.
May 26th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Later O and nation
May 26th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
R8 – Later.
May 26th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Raider O – I like the registration but nothing is perfect.
May 26th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
The highlights of the Magic/Cavaliers game were amazing. What a game. LeBron James is amazing…its too bad he doesn’t have more playmakers around him.
May 26th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Magic and Nuggets in the Final. NBA Marketing gone wrong….
May 26th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
D In UC – I call that justice. May the best teams win without the interference of game officiating.
May 26th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Yes. The officiating has tried to make the *Dream Match up* but the best teams will prevail I hope! Hopefully we all don’t forget just last year the Ref that got caught for cheating…..
May 26th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
I’m form Cali but would much rather see the Nuggets than the lakes….Laker’s are boring and soft! You heard it here!
May 26th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
……………….
May 26th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
It’s all about the Dolla yo’!
May 26th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
Good night R8 and 24.
I’m out, later Nation.
May 27th, 2009 at 12:28 am
[...] [Raiders] Raiders RB Michael Bush Looking Good So Far In Camp Running back Michael Bush was the subject of trade rumors himself this offseason, most of which never made much sense from the Raiders perspective because he’s an upper-tier talent playing for fourth-round money coming off a spectacular season finale. During the offseason non-contact workouts open to the media, Bush looks as swift and fearsome as ever breaking into the secondary – just like he did in the fourth quarters against the Chiefs and Bucs. But it’s not always that easy, and Bush’s next step is to prove he can be the back who can gain 3 yards on third-and-2 or get 2 yards on third-and-1. Source: Oakland Tribune [...]
May 27th, 2009 at 2:22 am
Garcia, Garcia, Hes our man, If he cant do it. No one can!
May 27th, 2009 at 3:27 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 3:56 am
I would like to see us carry four RBs (McFadden, Bush , Fargas and Rankin) and use them all sensibly and creatively. Add two power FBs (Neal and hopefully O’Neal) and we have one of the best back-fields in the league.
Given that McFadden, Bush and Rankin are good receivers and that our TE corps looks much stronger than last season, we have a lot more viable short-range targets.
Feels a tailor-made offense for Garcia!
Q: Which QB has the smarts, the experience and the accuracy to manage our best offensive weapons?
A: Not JaMarcus Russell.
May 27th, 2009 at 4:17 am
hehehehe
May 27th, 2009 at 4:25 am
well I hope Jmac finally realizes what an opportunity he has.ALL the god-given talent 1 guy can have and 2 me he just cant or wont give us 110%.Like I said ALL the talent but seems like he wont push himself.And I dont give a damn how much he parties,hell he can smoke a spliff in the huddle,I dont care.He should at least act like he takes pride in the organization.Hell how many times did we see Jmac all alone on the sidelines last year,thats a bad sign.Jmac should get the awards Fargas gets but never will because he is only a part-time Raider,unlike Fargas is a 12 month a year Raider,imo
May 27th, 2009 at 4:45 am
And yes prayers go out 2 Iron Mike and his family.Life can be just terrible-cruel when it takes a innocent child instead of 1 of us,imo
May 27th, 2009 at 4:54 am
the Greatful-Dead or Phish is gonna be on Letterman 2night =)
May 27th, 2009 at 4:58 am
zzzzzzzzzzzzz
May 27th, 2009 at 5:15 am
If said it many times to all the lebron lovers he ain’t Jordan and never will be, that’s not a knock but I hear how he is better and just have to laugh. They always wanna crown the new guys as the best how long since Jim Brown and Johnny U played and still their hasn’t been a better rb or qb in the NFL Im not that old but you got give the Legends their due!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 5:48 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
4eva, you are spot on with that Russell should be getting the awards that Fargas gets every year. He has to know that he is the new face of the franchise. Like I had mentioned before, if Garcia takes the starting job away, Russell should be ashamed of himself. He should use Garcia being here as motivation…but hasn’t yet. Heck, Jamarcus…give me some of that money…
May 27th, 2009 at 5:51 am
Morning nation.
May 27th, 2009 at 5:54 am
John pecker cant take a joke
May 27th, 2009 at 6:02 am
kill-joy =(
May 27th, 2009 at 6:05 am
Hwnrdr you sure get 2 work early!!!
GREAT 2 here from you 408!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 6:09 am
Yeah, I’m here at 5:30 everyday…
May 27th, 2009 at 6:15 am
good morning NMF, Hwnrdr, 408, 4eva …
May 27th, 2009 at 6:16 am
Good Morning Rockstar…How’s everything this morning?
May 27th, 2009 at 6:16 am
I’m here 6:00am – 3:00pm PST everyday
8-5 my time
May 27th, 2009 at 6:17 am
couldn’t be better man. how are you doing?
grab some coffee yet?
May 27th, 2009 at 6:19 am
5 qs with Trevor Scott
Trevor Scott’s beefing up to stop the run.
Raiders defensive end Trevor Scott is getting nothing but first team snaps this offseason, and not just because Derrick Burgess is playing stay-away as he always does.
Scott showed promise as a rookie pass rusher last season and has bulked up so he can better play against the run. He may not be an everydown player just yet, but he’ll make it easy for the Raiders to let Burgess walk when his contract expires after this season.
Scott spoke with reporters last week after an OTA practice. Here’s what he had to say.
Q: Biggest difference from last year?
A: Just my comfort level is so much higher. I’m not out here searching, feeling my way around with things. I don’t have that mindset of, ‘Oh man, I’m in the NFL now. These guys are great.’ They are great, but I feel like I’m great too. Just my confidence level and playing. The older guys helping me and pushing me. I’m trying to start this season. I want to make an immediate impact and play my butt off.
Q: Thoughts on Burgess trade rumors?
A: Derrick he’s a left-side player and I’m on the right side right now. As far as Derrick goes, he’s a great inspiration, he’s a great a leader when he’s on the field. I haven’t really been paying attention to what’s going on. I heard a bunch of hearsay but that’s all it is right now. It’s just speculation. Only Derrick really knows what’s going on. I try to stay away from that and let him figure things out.
Q: Working on run defense?
A: “My biggest thing in my running game, I went home in the offseason and I really hit the weights hard because I knew that was one of my biggest things. I can run fast but I really want to hone in on my run game because I want to be out making tackles. I love tackling, too. I just don’t want to be looked at as, ‘Trevor’s out there, pass rush.’ I want to be that complete D end that can do both.”
Q: Does added size compromise your speed?
“All the weight I was putting on, it wasn’t like it was bad weight. As I was getting stronger I was getting bigger but also I was working on my explosiveness, too, just squatting and doing all different variations of squatting and stuff because I want to be explosive off the ball. As soon as that ball moves I want to be out. If I can get up into the tackle or tight end before he gets up into me, nine times out of 10 I’m going to win.”
Q: Any difference with new defensive staff?
A: “Everyone’s got their different teaching philosophy and things of that nature, but overall we just really … like during individual periods we’re really honing in on shooting our hands, staying low, driving through our opponent and using our hands.”
-David White (SF Chronicle)
May 27th, 2009 at 6:19 am
wheres Dirt-Lot???
May 27th, 2009 at 6:23 am
Yup, made me a fresh pot this morning (don’t know when the graveyard crew makes their last pot).
Great story on Trevor Scott. He was one of the few surprises last year. Hopefully he will become that all around DE that we so desparately need…
May 27th, 2009 at 6:24 am
Scott: Everyone’s got their different teaching philosophy and things of that nature
Rockstar: woohoo. John Marshall isn’t Rob Ryan!
Scott: Derrick he’s a left-side player and I’m on the right side right now
Rockstar: ok, so who is going to replace D-Burg on the left side?
Richardson, Gunheim, Gray, Shaughnessy or Sulak?
May 27th, 2009 at 6:24 am
A: “My biggest thing in my running game, I went home in the offseason and I really hit the weights hard because I knew that was one of my biggest things. I can run fast but I really want to hone in on my run game because I want to be out making tackles. I love tackling, too. I just don’t want to be looked at as, ‘Trevor’s out there, pass rush.’ I want to be that complete D end that can do both
YO!!! Trevor gets it!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 6:26 am
wheres Dirt-Lot???
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he’ll be here. DLF wouldn’t want to let us down
May 27th, 2009 at 6:26 am
Trevor Scott:
“I love tackling, too. I just don’t want to be looked at as, ‘Trevor’s out there, pass rush.’ I want to be that complete D end that can do both”
Outstanding!
May 27th, 2009 at 6:28 am
i just saw a ghost!
S&B is never here before noon!
May 27th, 2009 at 6:37 am
who is going to replace D-Burg on the left side:
Richardson, Gunheim, Gray, Shaughnessy or Sulak?
May 27th, 2009 at 6:38 am
“Ten wide receivers poised to make a Breaston-like jump in ‘09″ – Pat Kirwin, NFL.com
5. Chaz Schilens, Oakland Raiders: Schilens had 15 receptions for 226 yards and two touchdowns last season, and he is the best-looking receiver in Raiders camp right now. Schilens caught six of those balls in the last two games of the year (both Raiders wins), and it appears he is on the verge of being a favorite target of quarterback JaMarcus Russell.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d810736b9&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
May 27th, 2009 at 6:38 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 6:28 am
i just saw a ghost!
S&B is never here before noon!
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Got a little free time in AM
May 27th, 2009 at 6:41 am
Chaz is Chillin
May 27th, 2009 at 7:02 am
who put Ashley Lelie, Ronald Curry and Javon Walker ahead of Chaz Schilens & Johnnie Lee Higgins on the depth chart?
the same guy who put Justin Fargas ahead of Darren McFadden & Michael Bush?
the same guy who put Kwame Harris ahead of Mario Henderson?
I expect better results this season …
May 27th, 2009 at 7:05 am
Morning Nation!!!!
Double R, SnB, 4eva, Hwnrdr
May 27th, 2009 at 7:07 am
…and with Lorenzo Neal and hoping for a healthy Oren Oneal…we should be the best rushing attack in the NFL. Hopefully Russell can utilize that to open up all the receivers that we have on the roster…
May 27th, 2009 at 7:08 am
the same guy who put Justin Fargas ahead of Darren McFadden & Michael Bush?
the same guy who put Kwame Harris ahead of Mario Henderson?
I expect better results this season …
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my biggest fear is Cable was behind all this and if his Job depended on it and it kinda did with all his expertise in the area and he puts in Turnstile Harris…thats scary…..I know coaches see stuff we dont but they HAVE to see what we see on a weekly basis and Turnstile was never a starting LT in this leauge…..
May 27th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Justin Fargas was “Wally Pipped” by Michael Bush in that Tampa game.
Cable will be on the road out of here if he goes ahea and gives Fargas a significant % of the carries.
Problem is that I don’ think Fargas has a Tampa like game in him. I have never seen this guy break a long play….he’s a good back to get a handfull of carries…and on another team he would make a good #2 running back.
But the injuries, lack of playmaking, and inability to catch the ball has to put him on the bench.
Remember when Fargas got hurt in the K.C game? Hurt trying to catch a pass.
May 27th, 2009 at 7:31 am
good morning OAKlifer!
what’s up brother? have some coffee
Hwnrdr: I agree, if we can have a strong rushing attack with Fargas as the leading rusher the past two seasons behind Justin Griffith and Sims LT in 07, Harris LT in 08. we should expect much greater success with much more talented players in 2009
May 27th, 2009 at 7:33 am
I don’t think Fargas has a Tampa like game in him.
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Miami Dolphins (2007)
May 27th, 2009 at 7:35 am
Remember when Fargas got hurt in the K.C game? Hurt trying to catch a pass.
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Remember when McFadden got hurt in the K.C game? Hurt his shoulder and got turf toe on the same play. He was ran down from behind. This guy was supposed to be a homerun hitter. get him in open field and he’s gone. right? what happened? nobody is perfect man.
May 27th, 2009 at 7:39 am
having said all that …
I think McFadden gets 60 percent of the carries. Bush gets 30 percent. Fargas gets 10 percent
barring injuries of course
this offseason we made Fargas take less pay in exchange for more years on his contract. this made him a role player, not a starter. also allows us to trade him if a desperate team loses a starter before the deadline and comes knocking on Al’s door
May 27th, 2009 at 7:44 am
Yeah, that play when DMac got caught from behind… I was like, Huh?
May 27th, 2009 at 7:47 am
Yep Dmac and Bush SHOULD be on the field TOGETHER 80% of plays this year,kinda like 1 of my favorite tandems:Hubbard&Davis.Fargas will be very useful 2 end games or spell a “tired” player =)
May 27th, 2009 at 7:48 am
OAKlifer: I don’t know that Tom Cable is a great talent evaluator either …
let’s hope his asst coaches and/or upper management can help him make some of these decisions, instead of starting a player like Kwame and watching him to beaten to a bloody pulp for 9 or 10 games just to make sure he’s not going to work out there.
NEWSFLASH! he was a back up RT for the 49ers, a losing team. What makes him able to start at LT for us? ok. he’s smart and has great feet. wonderful. does he false start? yes. can he stop a pass rusher? no. Well then why the crap do you have him protecting our franchise QB ???
May 27th, 2009 at 7:48 am
also allows us to trade him if a desperate team loses a starter before the deadline and comes knocking on Al’s door
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Which was genious!!!!! A 3rd guy is a 3rd guy unless one of the big two get hurt I see that “role player” only getting 10 % of carries like Double R said!!! So if thats the case and a playoff bound team gets knicked up our 3rd guy nets us a 4th or 5th rounder and Rankin steps in to get his 10 % I love it and if all goes well and no trade we have maybe the best 3rd string running back in the leauge…..ummm untill Dallas signs Mike Vick that is…….
May 27th, 2009 at 7:49 am
I swear I never heard “wally pipped” in all my born daze =-)
May 27th, 2009 at 7:52 am
I can really see a team saying; Man that damn ground attack of da Raiders just kicked our azz all damn day.Man that Fargas beat us BLACK-N-BLUE in the 4th,but we was already worn down by Dmac&Bush GO RAIDERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 7:55 am
……I can really see a team saying; Man that damn ground attack of da Raiders just kicked our azz all damn day.Man that Fargas……..”wally pipped us”
May 27th, 2009 at 7:56 am
we have maybe the best 3rd string running back in the leauge…..ummm untill Dallas signs Mike Vick
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Agreed on Fargas. Mike Vick to Dallas?
hmm … i’m thinking Washington
they’ve already tried to replace Jason Campbell two or three times this offseason to no avail. Plus his backup Todd Collins is older than dirt. DeAngelo Hall is his best friend sounds like. “Toast” Hall may be his agent too? haha. always lobbying for him and making him sound like a better player than he was! Jim Zorn is a former QB and QB coach. He may think he can revive Vick’s career and turn him into a pure passer (which we all know will NEVER happen)
May 27th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Fargas=366 day a year Raider =)
May 27th, 2009 at 7:57 am
And lets add Trevor Scott 2 that list 2
May 27th, 2009 at 7:58 am
LOL. the Chargers are gonna get “wally pipped” on MNF in Week 1
whatver that means …
May 27th, 2009 at 7:59 am
Trevor Scott “wally pipped” Brett Favre as a rookie last year!
May 27th, 2009 at 8:03 am
is he any relation 2 Wally Cox???
May 27th, 2009 at 8:03 am
4evaRaider Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 7:49 am
I swear I never heard “wally pipped” in all my born daze =-)
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Wally Pipp was a 1st baseman for the New York Yankees way back in the 1920’s. The story, and its just a story, goes that Pipp had an injury and couldn’t play and was replaced by a young Lou Gehrig.
Lou Gehrig went on to play some 2,000+ consecutive ball games.
My point is that had Fargas and DMAC not been injured, Bush would have not played…or had limited carries and most likely would have jlost that game because Fargas isn’t going to run for 177 yards. Cable doesn’t get hired and Bush ends up being traded leaving a backfield of DMAC, Fargas and Rankin….probably the most delicate starting lineup in the league.
Bush saved Cable’s job…..
May 27th, 2009 at 8:06 am
Bush saved Cable’s job
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Obama will fix that
May 27th, 2009 at 8:06 am
It all makes sense now thankx SnB Defense
May 27th, 2009 at 8:07 am
we have maybe the best 3rd string running back in the leauge…..ummm untill Dallas signs Mike Vick —
****well they need a 3rd string RB
hmm … i’m thinking Washington
*******and they need a QB
LOL I guess either would be nice I’m just glad theres no room on our roster for guys like Vick, TO, and Toast.
May 27th, 2009 at 8:21 am
OAKlifer: i’ve found the perfect home for Mike Vick
Cedric Benson, Tank Johnson, Chris Henry, Chad Johnson, Maurice Purify, Andre Smith, Roy “horse collar” Williams, Leon Hall, etc.
OTA’s and training camp with the Bungles would be like tossing the football in the prison yard
May 27th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Cable shaved Bush for the job what!?!?!?!?!
ohhhhh bush saved cable never mind damn dyslexia!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Q: Any difference with new defensive staff?
A: “Everyone’s got their different teaching philosophy and things of that nature, but overall we just really … like during individual periods we’re really honing in on shooting our hands, STAYING LOW, driving through our opponent and using our hands.”
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now we are talking…thats all i wanted to hear right there. not being able to stay low upfront cost us 4-5 games a year the last couple of seasons imo.
we would be in the low teens in run-defense if we managed to stay low with our talent.
now were also gonna fiond out if it was RRyans fault or not since its being stressed, officially acknowledged.
this season is it for the DTs. they better step up or they will have to clear out the lockers.
good news. later
May 27th, 2009 at 8:26 am
OTA’s and training camp with the Bungles would be like tossing the football in the prison yard
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Starring Bill Romanowski as the head coach
Dick Butkas as the prison gaurd
and Marvin lewis as him self the little D coordinator that couldn’t…….
“The Longest Term”
May 27th, 2009 at 8:35 am
Bill Romanowski is a better actor than Mark Schlereth.
they showed some clips of Mark’s acting in soap operas on NFL Live before. AWFUL
May 27th, 2009 at 8:38 am
this season is it for the DTs. they better step up or they will have to clear out the lockers.
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Agreed. Tommy Kelly might get a pass for 2009 due to his contract or they might make him take a pay reduction. However, I think he’ll surprise some folks this season and be a force at DT
Warren, Sands and Joseph? produce or else
May 27th, 2009 at 8:45 am
Tom Cable and that coaching staff would be better off if they didn’t try to overthink everything. I am still worried about their tendency to buddy up to personal favorites. I really don’t like the D-Line right now. Starting Lineup:
QB: Russell
RB: DMAC 45% Bush 45% Fargas 10%
WR1: Schilens
WR2: DHB
WR3: JLH
TE: Miller
LT: Henderson
LG: Gallery
C: Satele
RG: Carlisle
RT: Barnes
LDE: Shaughnessy
UT: Kelly
NT: Warren
RDE: Scott
WLB: Howard
MLB: Morrison
SLB: Brown
CB1: Aso
CB2: Johnson
FS: Mitchell
SS: Branch
May 27th, 2009 at 8:56 am
nice job S&B #375
few things I’d like to point out. Cornbread Green is a Cable favorite and knows the zbs like the back of his hand. Barnes hasn’t played RT since college and that was only sparingly. He was brought in for the sole purpose of competing with Henderson for the LT job. So far it sounds like Mario was been impressive, while Khalif is trying to play catch-up. “Mop Handle” Green stinks and should not be starting – I just don’t see anybody else unseating him unless Erik Pears shines and he was out of football injured last year.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Gunheim as a starter at DE opposite Scott.
Same with Alston at strong side LB (unfortunately)
Mike Mitchell is a SS. He and Branch will compete for that job. Keith Davis and Jerome Boyd will likely be cut.
Hiram Eugene and Mike Huff will battle at FS. If Branch loses the SS job to Mitchell (most likely the case) he’ll have a shot at the FS job too
no freakin way Michael Bush gets as many carries as McFadden unless DMC gets hurt. or if we use McFadden like the Saints use Reggie Bush
May 27th, 2009 at 9:04 am
LDE: Shaughnessy
UT: Kelly
NT: Warren
RDE: Scott
Did burgess get traded already…or just lose his starting spot SnB???
May 27th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Trivia question:
Who was the 1st Yankee to lead the AL in HR’s?
Answer: Wally Pipp with 12 in 1916. You’ll get some beer money with that one.
May 27th, 2009 at 9:15 am
S&B
Almost agree. On offense, I think that Pears might be the winner at RT. We will want to make more use of McFadden and Bush as receivers. We will field a FB on most running downs and I hope that we will use far more 2xTE sets. I also have a sneaking feeling that one of the lesser-known WRs might threaten DHB – possibly Murphy, who has much more big game experience.
Oh, and Garcia at QB?
On defense, I agree with Rockstar and see Gunheim being ahead of Shaughnessy. I sense the coaches are not happy with the LB corps. Not sure if that involves moving Morrison but the starting line-up is volatile. I would also be surprise if they play Branch and Mitchell together. They would certainly be fun to watch and they will hospitalise a few but, they lack so much experience. Huff has a chance of starting at FS if he progresses well in camp.
May 27th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Rockstar,
Cornell Green can’t pass protect and is penalty proned. Again, if Cable wants to play favorites and lose then go ahead and start Cornell Green.
As for Gunheim….I don’t know much about him. Shaugnessy is big enough to play the run and Richardson has no pass rushing skills so Shaughnessy is the guy.
Jon Alston???? I’ll believe it when I see it. I think he was in their to provide blitz pressure for the offense in practice. I think Norris or that Slowik guy has a better shot at it. Alston is all special teams.
Mike Mitchell was drafted in the 2nd round. He will be no worse than Eugene or the overwhelmed Michael Huff. Just play the doggone kid and be done with it. As for Branch…he’s playing too. He’s got “Raider Speed” and Cable has talked him up to the ends of the earth. Let’s just play him.
I also want to see what Mitchell and Branch have. Hopefully they stand out enough so Davis won’t waste another pick next year on Taylor Mays!
DMAC is not a 20 carry guy. He busted up both feet and his shoulder last year in limited reps. They should use DMAC for a 10 to 15 carries and the rest as a receiver. Bush needs to get the ball.
May 27th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Oaklifer,
They should move Burgess on. He’s in the last year of his contract, 31 yrs old, and doesn’t really want to play here. You’ve got a young guy in Scott that needs to play…and the Raiders went out there and drafted two D-Lineman. Move on with the youth movement.
Get that 2nd or 3rd round pick from New England and move on
May 27th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Did burgess get traded already…or just lose his starting spot SnB???
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good point OAKlifer. I casted him off the roster too. There is no guarantee that the Pats or any other team will meet Al Davis’ trade demands for Burgess. the price was too high for Huff, Bush and Porter back in the day. Walter, Jordan and Rhodes had no trade value.
Burgess, Richardson, Scott, Shaughnessy, Gunheim, and Sulak. I doubt we’re keeping 6 DE’s on the roster.
this is assuming that Derrick Gray and Desmond Bryant are the first guys out the door (or on the practice squad)
May 27th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Scottish Raider,
If Gunheim can beat out Shaughnessy and company then fine. Remember, Gunheim was a practice squad player for most of the year so I would not get too excited about the guy.
Pears is an interesting prospect. He lost his starting job to illness and not performance. But I think they brought Barnes in to play and I think Henderson is one of those momentum guys…he’s got support and confidence…I fully expect him to keep that LT job. But Pears or Barnes is fine with me. Just no more Cornell Green and his mop jobs.
Jeff Garcia? If Garcia is the starter for anything other than injury….the Silver & Black will be in the darkness for another 5 to 6 years. Garcia is 39 yrs old and only has a year left. Plus there will be a physical decline with the guy. So back to getting a new QB next year…sigh…
As for Mitchell and Branch and experience. What experience does Eugene and Huff have? They are mediocre to terrible players out there. Get some hitters out there that will at least give the Raiders some energy and momentum.
Again, they drafted Mitchell in the 2nd round. 2nd rounders are expected to start.
May 27th, 2009 at 9:31 am
I want to see what Mitchell and Branch have. When young players on the Raiders don’t play…they tend to get lost.
Before Al Davis draft Taylor Mays (6′2, 225 4.3 40x defensive back) I would like to know definitively what we have with Mitchell and Branch.
I don’t want to be debating that..well…Branch is okay but Mays is a beast type of discussion.
May 27th, 2009 at 9:37 am
DMAC is not a 20 carry guy. He busted up both feet and his shoulder last year in limited reps. They should use DMAC for a 10 to 15 carries and the rest as a receiver. Bush needs to get the ball.
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Reggie Bush got 88 catches as a rookie, 73 catches the year after that and 52 catches last year. Had a total of 51 punt returns as well during that 3 year span.
He was deemed too brittle to be a full time RB as well. Never even reached 600 rushing yards in 3 full seasons. Pierre Thomas and Deuce McAlister both got more carries than he did last year.
If McFadden is that type of player we might as well start calling him a bust already and give the ball to Fragile Fargas
May 27th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Oh snap!
May 27th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Mays is good but Eric Berry is better. And after a year working with Monte at Tennessee, I fully expect Berry to be gone before Mays.
May 27th, 2009 at 9:39 am
they drafted Mitchell in the 2nd round. 2nd rounders are expected to start.
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well, by that logic
Huff = 1st rounder
Mitchell = 2nd rounder
Branch = 4th rounder
Eugene = undrafted
Huff starts at FS. Mitchell starts at SS
Right?
May 27th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Go Rsiduhs!
May 27th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Oh snap!…dat song from nickelback,..I wanna be a rock start,..dat why you use dat name ?
May 27th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Lets go Raiduhs,..to the superbowl!
May 27th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Why does dmac need to carry 20 times 15 carries 5+ catches a game thats why we have bush!!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Bush idnt any good dude,…fargas is dam man…oh snap!
May 27th, 2009 at 9:46 am
oh snap. marky mark is back!
May 27th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Again, they drafted Mitchell in the 2nd round. 2nd rounders are expected to start.
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Or at least contribute in a big way…..and huff should be beat out this year….dont worry about all the other years it should be his job to lose this year!!
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Double R,
There is no guarantee that the Pats or any other team will meet Al Davis’ trade demands for Burgess.
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Al is always trying to pull a Madden 09 on people for his waste!!! hmm lets see you get burgess….and a2nd rounder and we get wilfork and your third!!! LOL
May 27th, 2009 at 9:48 am
McFaddon and Fargas,..dats da game plan,..no Bush! oh snap trade him for a draft pick!
May 27th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Hey Marky mark what up snapper!!! try not to get wally pipped in here today!!!!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Rockstar,
Huff lost his opportunity as a starter. Branch has demonstrated some potential and should play. Mitchell, as a 2nd round pick, should be given an opportunity.
Look, if Huff or Eugene were on their respective games then Mitchell would not have been drafted in the 2nd round. They picked him that early to start.
The disappointment will be if they play Eugene or Huff…they are average or worst…and then the Raiders make a push to draft Mays or Berry.
That’s my concern. You draft a guy on the 1st day…they better be significant contributors. Huff’s time has passed.
Hell, they tried to trade Huff and found no takers….He’ll be out of the league in a year or two
May 27th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Oh snap wha?…wally world?..hey man I dont shop there!…oh snap!
May 27th, 2009 at 9:52 am
He’ll be out of the league in a year or two
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or a nickel corner somewhere…..I think washington could use antoher one…..I heard on of theirs is a s good as burned toast!!!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 9:56 am
NoMoreFargas Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Why does dmac need to carry 20 times 15 carries 5+ catches a game thats why we have bush!!!!
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Which one will throw more completions?
May 27th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Garcia to McFaddon,..touchdown!!!!…we win the superbowl!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Oaklifer,
Bottom line is that no overall 7th pick should be a freekn Nickle corner.
When you draft a safety at #7 overall…you shouldn’t be drafting for the same position three yrs later with a 1st day draft pick. It suggests the original 1st round pick was a bust and forces the team to neglect other positions to fill a position that should have been taken care of in the 1st place.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Huff is gone my homies!!…just because he was dis high pick dont meet bo diddly squat!!!…oh snap he gone in summer camp!
May 27th, 2009 at 10:01 am
SnB Defense,
I know bro, out of postion the last few years or not he has been no better than anyone else on our roster!! I agree! the Washington statement was a little sarcastic!!
May 27th, 2009 at 10:04 am
FREE MIKE HUFF!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 10:09 am
they tried to trade Huff and found no takers….He’ll be out of the league in a year or two
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out of the league? if Huff was in Indy next to Bob Sanders he’d be a pro bowler
keep defending Rob Ryan’s garbage defense, while at the same time bashing players who don’t excel in it. that makes sense. you’re also still complaining about the bad run defense. Ryan is in Cleveland now
We’ve yet to see what Kelly, Warren, Sands, Huff or any other player for that matter can do in a John Marshall defense. You want to pay Huff $5 million or whatever to make a few special teams tackles this year? the man deserves a shot and he’ll get one imo
what NFL starters did Mike Mitchell face in college?
May 27th, 2009 at 10:10 am
OAKlifer,
Its too bad about Huff. I thought that maybe he would see new life with John Marshall, given that Cable believes that fundamental teaching is the issue. But drafting Mitchell that high and then selling him as the next Jack Tatum pretty much sealed Huff’s fate.
Cable does not like him. And like a poster said earlier, don’t be surprised to see Huff cut in training camp.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:12 am
FREE BIZ MARKIE!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Rockstar,
I didn’t like Rob Ryan. Nor am I defending him. I was supporting Kiffin in the effort to remove him. But look, why would the Raiders draft Mike Mitchell if they believed in Michael Huff.
Tyvon Branch is starting this year:
Q: What did Tyvon Branch show you in the brief time he was health last year?
Coach Cable: He’s an explosive football player. He can really run. He’s very explosive – really instinctive on the ball. The place I thought we were most hurt by his loss was on special teams. When he was playing he made a tremendous amount of plays, and that’s what you expect your young guys to do.
Q: Is he very similar to Mitchell? Can they both be out there at the same time?
Coach Cable: There’s no question they could both be out there at the same time because they both can run, they both have played centerfield, and they both can play up in the box.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:13 am
You guys are missing the point on our safeties. If Marshall doesn’t adapt the SCHEME, every safety will wash out in Oakland. Currently our FS must cover the entire deep zone, and as such is far too hesitant to take the necessary chances to become a playmaker. Ed Reed would do little better than Rashad Baker in this setup.
Marshall needs to adapt now and give our young safeties the freedom to anticipate plays instead of just protect against the deep ball.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:16 am
what NFL starters did Mike Mitchell face in college?
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Robiskie at OSU, for one.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Oh snizzap…Markie Post was hot.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:25 am
We could have the best safeties of all time and it wouldn’t make a bit of difference because we have guys like Sands, Warren, and Burgess and Brown getting playing time up front.
Al drafting a safety in round 2 was like that woman who had her face blown off curling her hair…what’s the point?
May 27th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Al drafting a safety in round 2 was like that woman who had her face blown off curling her hair…what’s the point?
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Morning Dakota,
hmmm interesting!!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 10:30 am
BSJ,
I am not debating whether the scheme is safety friendly. My point is more that regardless of the new or same system….Tom Cable and the Raiders have given up on Michael Huff. Huff was the 1st starter to be benched by Cable….Cable goes out of his way to talk about the leadership of Hiram Eugene…then talks up Branch and calls Mitchell the 2nd coming of Tatum…
My position is that Mitchell and Branch should start. If for nothing else, so that we see what they can do before we decide whether or not to draft Taylor Mays.
And Eric Berry’s 40x won’t be as good as Mays. So Mays will be the pick unless he’s drafted earlier than our pick or, hopefully, Mitchell and Branch seize the day.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Robiskie at OSU, for one.
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he’s not an NFL starter. he wasn’t all that impressive in his senior season in college even
May 27th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Is there any way to filter out those stupid bleacher reports from a google search? What a waste of time.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:35 am
oh snizzap you should return it if its hot!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 10:37 am
I don’t blame the Raiders for looking away from Huff he has had a considerable amount of time and he is not making any on the field contributions. Was it just me or idd Huff seem like he was lighting people up on the field when he was at Texas? He had solid technique for a college guy. He hit hard and wrapped people up. When we drafted Huff I thought he was a very good pick up in the draft. He just does not seem like the same confident player. Oakland may try one more year but I am almost positive this it for Huff.
Now he may go to another team and sit in a zone and just be the man. Maybe it is just our style of DB play. Some DBs are just not cut out for it, I guess.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:37 am
420
May 27th, 2009 at 10:37 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Agreed. Tommy Kelly might get a pass for 2009 due to his contract or they might make him take a pay reduction. However, I think he’ll surprise some folks this season and be a force at DT
Warren, Sands and Joseph? produce or else
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and produce simply means just do your part of the deal…
2 NFL-DTs should be able to occupy 3 OLinemen 80-90% of the plays, fat slow dudes like “Biz Markie” whos only advantage is knowing the count and the direction of a play with all the other disadvantages they face. the C and the two Gs must be held honest with at least good leverage at all times, and us playing consistantly, not always but consistantly too high in recent years meant one OLiner was easily able to lyrically dominate the backside DT and free up others to double the POAs or give up easy killer-cutbacks, especially Sands who was jacked up and flushed out too many times for a man that big and strong.
that said, i love the new, open emphasis there. we should improve vs the run if, like i said in the previous post, if it wasnt RR fault and these guys are just simply too stiff to hold the required norm….
stay low, hold your ground, know what you and the guy to at least your left and right are doing, penetrate the pocket every now and ultimatly, do it all consistantly, or you might not survive the next wave of the new Raider-stereotype of highly motivated because thoroughly scouted players/draftees.
there are no more positions left to get younger… the OLs and the DTs are the oldest members of the team and each of their performance will go a long way of outlining their fate and our next draft/offseason strategy. the heat is clearly on the big boys this season…
sorry for the late, long response
May 27th, 2009 at 10:37 am
DOH
May 27th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Rockstar,
Debating Mitchell’s background is pointless. He was the 2nd round draft pick and the Raiders believe he can become a great safety.
Hiram Eugene is a depth guy. Michael Huff is on the skids…Heck, I think that guy from Dallas is the guy that’s going to push Huff off the roster.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:42 am
I live in Columbus Ohio and I watched Mitchell blow some guys up man. I was really impressed with him when they played OSU. He was one of the best defensive players on the field that day. What I really love was him on a safety blitz. He blew OSUs QB up!!!!! He could not even scramble Mitchell came so fast. Now I don’t now about taking him in the second round like they did but this kid could surprise some people.
I like the guys personality as well he seems to be grounded in family values and is a gym rat. The guy works hard and man can this dude hit!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 10:45 am
CJ,
I used to live on the 161 and Cleveland Ave. Raintree apts.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:51 am
I don’t care what anyone says about Bush having something to prove. He has always been proving something since he came back from the broken leg injury. Al put him on the injured reserve to Lamont Jordan “the broke mans Bo Jackson.” so that KC would not get him. It was a dumb move and slap in the face of Bush. Every time Oakland decides to play Bush he produces. Most of the time it is not Bush’s desire that can’t get him over 100 yards they don’t let him get enough touches. Every time Bush gets in the game he produces. If they want to see him excel let him get the rock! Bush was right as well he is not a fullback not even close and that would have been a duumb coaching mistake to make Bush a fullback, that is not his game!Bush is going to truck somebody next year so keep writing negative blogs about this guy Jerry and it may be you. : )
May 27th, 2009 at 10:51 am
What’s up Nation?
May 27th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Lol, Bush trucking Jerry…I would pay $5 to see that!
May 27th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Raider O
CJ,
I used to live on the 161 and Cleveland Ave. Raintree apts.
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Raider O that is cool!!! I grew up on Dee Wood back in the day off Clevland Ave. My Dad moved us up to Detroit than I ended back in the Columbus area I actually live in Dublin now.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Are you guys ready for war against N. Korea? Obama is going to have to bring back the draft for that one…
May 27th, 2009 at 10:55 am
fat slow dudes like “Biz Markie” ………
“Ohh baby you, you got what I need” LMAO
May 27th, 2009 at 10:56 am
what NFL starters did Mike Mitchell face in college?
None,there are no NFL starters or Nfl players in collage=)
Sorry Rockstar,I know what you meant but I couldnt resist,bro
May 27th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Dakota,
you need to be more worried about that war in Denver!!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Hmmm, I may have to join the N. Korean army!
http://images.tdaxp.com/tdaxp_upload/north_korean_army_babes_md.jpg
May 27th, 2009 at 11:02 am
yeah-baby
May 27th, 2009 at 11:08 am
CJ,
Dublin! That’s avery nice area. I miss Columbus, and going to High st to party.
I just don’t miss the weather!! I’m in San Diego now. Northland High, class of 97. Go Vikings.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:08 am
I think that guy from Dallas is the guy that’s going to push Huff off the roster.
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yeah. Keith Davis is going to beat out Michael Huff for a roster spot. Just like the Raiders are going to draft BJ Raji and Jarron Gilbert in the first 2 rounds or be doomed, right?
May 27th, 2009 at 11:11 am
*****Jerry this blog on Bush is crap go get an ESPN gig and join the haters club*******
So I guess now Bush should be playing flag football? Now Jerry is going to down the guy for being to fast and big at the same time and because the line was cut blocking so well it made it easy for Bush. So is the line great or terrible Jerry what is your point? If Bush was playing for any other team in the NFL and had a game like he did aginst Tampa he would be on the fantasy football up and coming list. What Tampa showed me was Kiffin, Cable and Al were crazy for parking him on the bench so long. Every player on the team should have something to prove not just Bush. Why is it every time players on Oakland does something good they get evaluated and shot down when there are some real garbage players on our squad that get free passes. Is Bush’s running good or bad? Should he have slowed down for some of Tampa’s players cutting through the hole and waited for contact? I do not get your point. I know there is not much to talk about right now but come on talk about Walker or anyone on the D front, but to try to call out Bush that is lame. Who ever said Bush was the second coming of Jim Brown? Would be nice but I don’t think so. You are starting to be to much like Raider managment throwing out players who want to produce that don’t get that many shots for under rated role players. Bush was not a fullback he is a tailback and we got his chance he showed it. I actually think if Bush was not with Oakland he would have got major yards last year.
I like your blog Jerry Mc but this post sucked!
May 27th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Bush is a tough runner. Arm tackles aren’t going to get it done. He also can catch and run…In addition to the K.C and T.B games..Bush also had 128 total yds of offense against the Chargers on 14 carries and 7 catches.
Against Carolina he had 5 catches for 43 yds.
The Raiders have to play the best players. Fargas is too 1-dimensional and doesn’t bring the tangible skills that DMAC and Bush bring
May 27th, 2009 at 11:17 am
some of you guys need to put the crack pipe down. sometimes it take a few years for a player to develop
Nnamdi Asomugha (first 3 years in the league):
0 interceptions, 17 passes defensed, 1 fumble recovery, 1 sack.
1st round pick. cornerback (projected safety)
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Michael Huff (first 3 years in the league):
1 interception, 17 passes defensed, 1 fumble recovery, 1 sack, 1 forced fumble.
1st round pick. safety (projected cornerback)
isn’t that funny? Huff made more plays than Asomugha his first 3 years in the league and you guys want to kick him to the curb before he even gets a chance to make an impact under a new Def. Coordinator
Nnamdi bloomed his 4th year in the league and got Pro Bowl consideration (as an injury alternate). He said “the light finally came on”
May 27th, 2009 at 11:17 am
439 ……I agree bush is the man!!! and should be seeing time as the split number one or concenous number 2
May 27th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Raider O
CJ,
Dublin! That’s avery nice area. I miss Columbus, and going to High st to party.
I just don’t miss the weather!! I’m in San Diego now. Northland High, class of 97. Go Vikings.
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San Diego weather nice!!! So you traded in beef, the rain and the corn fields for seafood, sun and the beach. What the heck am I doing here Bro?
Northland High grad that’s cool Raider O. I wish they would rebuild the Northland Mall area but with Easton it does not seem like it is going to happen it is really unfortunate!
High Street partying is nice!!! I still make it downton to some of the spots. I frequent Brothers and the R-Bar sometimes after work to grab some quick brews and “eye candy” before going home. : )
May 27th, 2009 at 11:23 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 11:08 am
I think that guy from Dallas is the guy that’s going to push Huff off the roster.
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yeah. Keith Davis is going to beat out Michael Huff for a roster spot. Just like the Raiders are going to draft BJ Raji and Jarron Gilbert in the first 2 rounds or be doomed, right?
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Rockstar, Huff is done my man. I am sorry to inform you of this. It may or may not be his fault…but Huff is under the Cable Doghouse. Mitchell is getting his start and so is Branch. Eugene is a Cable favorite. Huff was benched in week 6 and didn’t sniff the starting lineup. They had Rashad Baker out there ahead of Huff.
As for Gilbert and Raji. It would have been nice. You tellin me that you would rather see Warren/Sands? Gilbert at LDE would look good to me. But that’s all water under the bridge now. I believe Cable…John Marshall is going to fix all our problems.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:24 am
RaiderRockstar I hope you are right dude, but you have to admit the only reason his stats are close is because they don’t even try Nnamdi’s side anymore that dude is so lockdown.
I just can’t think of any great plays Huff has made in my mind, can you?
Bring me over to the “Huff Side” what do you like about him?
May 27th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Rockstar,
I am not the one who drafted Mike Mitchell to play safety. Huff is done. Its not about the fans…this is a coaches decision.
You tellin me that Huff is NOT on the trading block???
He won’t get a chance to work under the Marshall program
May 27th, 2009 at 11:30 am
CJ,
There isn’t a day that goes by, that I don’t think about Columbus.
I miss it so much. I had my best game bowling in that center in the Drug empruim on Cleveland ave, I still own my car that I bought from Nissan North 14 years ago, and I miss The Ohio State University. I miss it all bro.
I love Columbus!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 11:30 am
No Huff can’t be on the trading block because according to Jerry, Huff is not worth analyzing because Bush is on the trading block.
LOL!!!! LOL!!!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Rockstar,
I also think you have me all wrong with this. I thought that Michael Huff should have been given another chance. If any position on the field could benefit from an improved scheme, I thought it would be the safety position.
But Cable feels that the DTs will benefit the most from teaching. He feels that Huff needs to be replaced.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Nnamdi bloomed his 4th year in the league and got Pro Bowl consideration (as an injury alternate). He said “the light finally came on”
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I agree with most of this Double R, but the difference is and correct me if I’m wrong Nnamdi spent the first two years as a 2nd string or nickel if you will and huff has been on the field the entire time with the exception of Cable pulling the plug….
May 27th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Way to represnt Raider O!!!!
There are no beaches or large lakes that I love but I am with you OH will always be on my mind. The Columbus area is a great place to raise a family or have a good time partying. It is not to big not to small. It is really a comfortable place to live.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:36 am
When you draft a safety at #7 overall…you shouldn’t be drafting for the same position three yrs later with a 1st day draft pick. It suggests the original 1st round pick was a bust and forces the team to neglect other positions to fill a position that should have been taken care of in the 1st place.
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does that mean Nnamdi is a bust because we drafted Fabian Washington, Stanford Routt & John Bowie? Huff played some corner in college too … so did Branch
and why did Nnamdi balk when Huff was benched?
how many safeties have had success with Rob Ryan as DC? none. case closed.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:37 am
You know I hate to admit this man but sometimes I wonder if it is our defensive schemes that the safties can’t get. Honestly no one has been successful at since Rod Woodson but he had years of experience before we got him.
Oud DBs struggle in our system. I have to come clean man. I could not stand Fabian Washington but he looks better with the Ravens than he ever did with us. If I recall he made a couple of interceptions last year.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Heya Barca!!
biggest battle in sports…. piiiuuew, man i just got in and the game starts in 5 min…
May 27th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Come on RaiderRckstar lets have some fun, take a stand for your dude Huff!
Is this Huff’s year?
How many interceptions?
May 27th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Did you guys hear Norv trying to get credit for the Nnamdi pick?!
May 27th, 2009 at 11:40 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 11:30 am
No Huff can’t be on the trading block because according to Jerry, Huff is not worth analyzing because Bush is on the trading block.
LOL!!!! LOL!!!!!
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HA, HA….Fargas is another guy that I liked. But the guy can’t stay healthy and then when he does play he isn’t the difference maker they need on the field.
And that’s the problem. Fargas doesn’t change the game. DMAC and Bush are capable of owning the game…not having a serviceable game…but owning the game…DMAC and Bush are guys that opponents have to game plan for.
Fargas? He’s a decent running back with a good attitude. He runs hard but again, doesn’t have the ability to dominate the game.
Look at his stats last year. He started all but 3 games. He had a good gm against Denver and whole bunch of “nice” games.
You want to help Russell and passing game. Get a running game that can dominate games…not just have a serviceable effort.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Norv is a terrible coach that is all he should be taking credit for.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:41 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 10:42 am
I live in Columbus Ohio and I watched Mitchell blow some guys up man. I was really impressed with him when they played OSU. He was one of the best defensive players on the field that day. What I really love was him on a safety blitz. He blew OSUs QB up!!!!! He could not even scramble Mitchell came so fast. Now I don’t now about taking him in the second round like they did but this kid could surprise some people.
I like the guys personality as well he seems to be grounded in family values and is a gym rat. The guy works hard and man can this dude hit!!
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im with you, and the many peeps on this board who believed MM could be a fourth rounder whereas a KiperDiaper didnt even had him on his radar at all for the draft weekend lol.
but yes, this guy can step right in from a physical pov. hes already bigger/stronger then Huff who is 4 years removed from being a student-athlete.on top of that MM seems smart enough too to get on the field early, so.
but even JLH grew into a legit, confidant NFL-player in a professional environment. in one year. Huff is a big dissappointment in that department. he could not transform his body from school and really looks like another Stu who simply didnt have the physicality, the nasty streak needed for the job in the middle of a defense…
at least M Huff is a proven commodity vs TEs though, gotto give him that. he even had Safety vs the Cards at one time, and filled the running lanes successfully too although inconsistantly, but he got some skills…so hopefully our first and second down-defenses improve and the coaches find a place for him with more third and longs in nickel and dimes. he still could be gone next year after all if he doesnt make a difference.
later guys.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Maaan i hope malcolm glazers boys gets beat tonight =)
May 27th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Nnamdi spent the first two years as a 2nd string or nickel if you will and huff has been on the field the entire time with the exception of Cable pulling the plug….
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you’re right. Nnamdi started 24 games in his first 3 years. Huff started 39.
Nnamdi has a bigger build than Huff, yet Huff is the one playing strong safety down in the box? He’s a free safety fellas! and he’s only had a few starts there last season under a Rob Ryan defense after playing his first 2 years out of position.
How were Gallery’s first 3 years in the league before he got a real coach (Cable) and got put in the right position (LG)? atrocious!
May 27th, 2009 at 11:49 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 11:37 am
You know I hate to admit this man but sometimes I wonder if it is our defensive schemes that the safties can’t get. Honestly no one has been successful at since Rod Woodson but he had years of experience before we got him.
Oud DBs struggle in our system. I have to come clean man. I could not stand Fabian Washington but he looks better with the Ravens than he ever did with us. If I recall he made a couple of interceptions last year.
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Its called Cover Zero because thats how many pro bowl players you get out of it.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:50 am
I feel blessed that there are a few places I can call home.
SD, Columbus, and Amman Jordan.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Is this Huff’s year?
How many interceptions?
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16 starts at FS and I say Huff has 6 or 7 INT’s and 12 or 13 passes defensed
due to Cable’s love affair with Hiram Eugene I think he’ll start over Huff again, no matter who plays better in OTA’s, training camp or preseason
Eugene has started 15 games the past 2 seasons. During that time he has 3 passes defensed. no INT’s. no FF’s. no FR’s. no sacks. that’s what you call a depth player
May 27th, 2009 at 11:52 am
BSJ,
LMFAO
May 27th, 2009 at 11:55 am
you’re right. Nnamdi started 24 games in his first 3 years. Huff started 39.
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Not much difference just sayin that huff has had more “game time” to devolope in the first 3 years than Nnamdi did….how that transalates i’m not sure but hes been on the field!! But I’m a Fan of our new D coord and hopefully huff can blossom M&M was the pick regardless who we had back there its not like we field Bob Sanders or Ed Reed…..We needed Depth and went with one of the most explosive safties in the draft i can dig that!!
May 27th, 2009 at 11:55 am
RR,
What!!!
No, No, No!!
It’s Branch’s year at FS with Huff as Backup, and MM at Strong.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Rockstar,
Nnamdi was originally the backup to Buchanon and Woodson. When Buchanon was sent packing…they moved Asomugha to starter. The Raiders drafted Washington and Routt because Woodson departed and the jury was still out on Asomugha. Bowie….I still don’t know why they drafted that guy. Regardless, they did need a nickel back too. A 2nd round pick on a starting nickel back is okay.
But with Huff…there is no “Nickel Back” position to fall back on. Huff was benched by a coach that doesn’t like him. It doesn’t matter what Nnamdi thinks of Huff….it only matters what Cable thinks of him.
Huff is behind Mitchell, Branch and Eugene for a chance to play either FS or SS. Huff was put on the trading block…Asomugha was never put on the trading block…
Again, Rockstar, I think Huff is getting a bad deal…but things don’t look to good for him right now.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Cover Zero I love it!!!! Is that Slob Ryans Patented Defensive Scheme!!!LMFAO!!!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 11:57 am
I like Tyvon Branch & Mike Mitchell. I also like Michael Huff.
I want the best players on the field no matter what.
thats what OTA’s, training camp and preseason are for.
If Branch & Mitchell are the best? start them. same with Eugene.
With Cable’s track record as a talent evaluator I don’t trust that Hiram Eugene is starter quality. Cornell Green either
I think Huff is scheduled to make less than 1 million this year, but over 5 million next year. If John Marshall has Huff for a year (starter or not) and doesn’t think he’s a quality player we can dump him next year and save some money. might also be an uncapped year …
May 27th, 2009 at 11:58 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Is this Huff’s year?
How many interceptions?
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16 starts at FS and I say Huff has 6 or 7 INT’s and 12 or 13 passes defensed
due to Cable’s love affair with Hiram Eugene I think he’ll start over Huff again, no matter who plays better in OTA’s, training camp or preseason
Eugene has started 15 games the past 2 seasons. During that time he has 3 passes defensed. no INT’s. no FF’s. no FR’s. no sacks. that’s what you call a depth player
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Rockstar,
I agree with this post. But that Cable love affair is a pretty strong force to fight. If not for injury, he would have gone down with the ship staying with Harris and Fargas.
May 27th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
he would have gone down with the ship staying with Harris and Fargas.
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We all know injury or not Harris was a goner…..Cable may be in love but not stupid
May 27th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
I think Huff is getting a bad deal…but things don’t look to good for him right now.
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If Cable dumps Huff and takes a huge cap hit to keep a guy like Darrick Brown, Keith Davis, Jerome Boyd or even Hiram Eugene on the roster we’ll know how far he’s going to take this team … to another 4 or 5 win season
thats terrible decision making
May 27th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
wait stupid not in love….wait fat,……wait talent evaluator….mmmmm…nevermind
May 27th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Huff won’t have six interceptions in his whole career.
May 27th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
OAKlifer Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
he would have gone down with the ship staying with Harris and Fargas.
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We all know injury or not Harris was a goner…..Cable may be in love but not stupid
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True…True…I just remember that Miami game where Cable benched Harris for the 2nd half and praised Henderson. Then the next day does a 180 degree turnaround and talks about something he saw on film and then proceeded to ride out with Harris for another 3 games….Finally that debacle in San Diego was the last straw.
Fargas was the starter going into the Tampa game. Had Fargas not been hurt…Bush would have seen limited time and the Raiders probably lose that game.
May 27th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Later Nation.
May 27th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Rockstar,
Keith Davis plays pretty good special teams and is a veteran. Huff is going to be in a situation where I think he’s going to have to outplay Davis on special teams.
Cable loves “Hustle” guys…or at least his perception of hustle guys. Huff is in the same situation as Robert Thomas. He’s going to have to become a special teams guy…otherwise, there is a chance he could be cut.
Again, I hope Huff flourishes with Marshall. Huff was a monster at Texas. I think the Raiders ruined him to a certain extent. But Cable sure loves Eugene!
May 27th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
The Raiders have drafted 11 Defensive Backs since 2003…9 of them in the 4th round or higher….
May 27th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Huff won’t have six interceptions in his whole career.
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they said the same thing about Nnamdi …
May 27th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
What’s with all this boring Raiders talk? Did’t you get the memo…only NBA and political talk in here from the middle of May through June…
sheeesh
Huff isn’t worth taking the time to type one paragraph on him!
May 27th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
The Raiders have drafted 11 Defensive Backs since 2003…9 of them in the 4th round or higher….
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no wonder we have a good pass defense and a terrible run defense every year! priorities
May 27th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Dakota,
Who cares about politics? Its depressing, there is no answer and its hardly a diversion from work.
May 27th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Huff is in the same situation as Robert Thomas. He’s going to have to become a special teams guy…otherwise, there is a chance he could be cut.
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Thomas was competing with R. Brown, Alston and Williams.
Huff is competing with Eugene, D. Brown and Davis
Ricky Brown won the job. Alston & Williams were good on ST. once Brown went down with a groin injury, Robert Thomas was resigned and got hurt in his first game back. injury settlement. in comes Marquis Cooper, etc. Robert Thomas was a 1st rounder like Huff, but Thomas also washed out with a few teams before he signed with us. some similarities, but a way different situation. none of those LB’s were Cable favorites. Sam Williams is on AD scholarship and he didn’t start
May 27th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
SnB,
As depressing as politics are I find them downright uplifting compared to thinking about the current state of my Raiders…
May 27th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
O-U-C-H
May 27th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Huff won’t have six interceptions in his whole career.
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they said the same thing about Nnamdi …
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Nnamdi’s progress:
Draft day: WHO? WTF!
First season: WHO?
Second season: Looks OK, nice size.
Third season: Skills!
Fourth season: Da man! thanks Al!
Huff went from…
Draft day: Whew! He’s not Leinert.
First season: Weak for a SS, but better than Gibson.
Second season: TEs are covered but can’t make plays.
Third season: FS = Schweigert results
May 27th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
BSJ,
how many safeties have had success with Rob Ryan as DC?
Huff wasn’t the only safety during Ryan’s 5 year tenure
If Branch & Mitchell played safety for Ryan the past 3 years they would have the same or similar results
May 27th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Morrison should run for office…he has the long answer that tells you nothing down pat, lol.
Good for you KM!
May 27th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
BSJ,
how many safeties have had success with Rob Ryan as DC?
Huff wasn’t the only safety during Ryan’s 5 year tenure
If Branch & Mitchell played safety for Ryan the past 3 years they would have the same or similar results
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Preaching to the proverbial choir here, RRS. I stated above that the Cover Zero scheme is death to safeties. I hope you are correct that Ryan was the root of it…
May 27th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
MR, Dakota,
The reason I don’t discuss politics is because its largely irrelevant. All these so-called smart people “all parties” and look at the condition of the country….Foreign governments behaving like children in a playground….
Give me football any day. It helps get through the work day….baseball and basketball too.
Politics…I could care less because there is little I can do about it and its not really that much fun to talk about.
The Raiders are at least entertaining to talk about. I much rather talk about the possible potential of DMAC and Bush…than debate endlessly on North Korea or central government that hasn’t accomplished anything significant since the Interstate Highway System back in the 50’s
So, will the Raider defense actually be aggressive this year?
May 27th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
LOL MR’s posts got deleted…
May 27th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
New post up you dorks
May 27th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Is this Huff’s year?
How many interceptions?
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16 starts at FS and I say Huff has 6 or 7 INT’s and 12 or 13 passes defensed
due to Cable’s love affair with Hiram Eugene I think he’ll start over Huff again, no matter who plays better in OTA’s, training camp or preseason
Eugene has started 15 games the past 2 seasons. During that time he has 3 passes defensed. no INT’s. no FF’s. no FR’s. no sacks. that’s what you call a depth player
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6 or 7 wow RR!!!!
I hope you are right man. I would just like to see the guy get at least 3-4 and some big hits.
May 27th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
My condolences, Jerry. Funerals are never pleasant. I have to go to one tomorrow.
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May 27th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
In 1996 the Raiders had a 240lb RB with great speed and strength.
He was 3rd on the depth chart behind Harvey Williams and Nap Kaufman, this RB was the one-eyed wonder Joe Aska.
Aska started a game against the Chefs and tore them up for more than 200yards. Caveat in all this was Aska had optical depth perception problems due to being blind in one eye.
Aska’s game against the Chefs stood out in my mind for years. I have pined for another player of his size and speed but with TWO good yes; and we now have that player in Bush.
Bush will be for the Raiders what Jerome Bettis was for Pitsburgh.
Bush will run thru and past the competition…Russel doesn’t need to worry about Garcia, but McFadden best worry about Bush.
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All I read from you guys are the sounds from the adults from Charlie Brown cartoons! All I hear are put downs and people talkin about how everybody are haters and how stupid the articles are. If there so stupid, why do you foo’s read and post your comments n shi*t! It’s gets boring! Get the hell of the board and let the real football fans talk football!
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As far as Bush is concern, I loved him when the Raiders drafted him! I knew right away this guy will be a good RB, I still think he can be four times as good as Tyrone Wheatly! I believe he’s going to be the anchor of this offense soon.
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