Bottom-feeding in the backfield
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, May 27th, 2009 at 1:20 pm in Oakland Raiders.
All I did was wonder whether two quarters of explosive football is enough to anoint Michael Bush as a future star.
At least I didn’t leave him out entirely.
Check out this CNN-SI feature ranking the NFL backfields, Nos. 1 through 32.
The author, John Mullin, ranks the Raiders No. 28 and never mentions Bush. He has Oakland ranked last among AFC West teams and ahead of only Detroit, Cleveland, Seattle and Jacksonville in the NFL.
Must be a hater.
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May 27th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Way to try and steer the hate away from you Jerry and onto CNN/SI, lol.
May 27th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Looks like Russell probably takes us down a notch or two…maybe when he completes 60% of his passes we might go up in the rankings?
May 27th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
“Bottom-feeding in the backfield” starring Jeff Garcia
May 27th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
So if Justin Fargas is this outstanding starter…then why no trade offers?
Show me the game that Fargas came in and took over / dominated? One game last yr where he dominated like DMAC or Bush did against K.C and T.B respectively.
I am not trying to hate on Fargas. But he has not demonstrated that ability to dominate a game since the Miami game in the mud in ‘07. In addition, he’s not a very good pass catcher.
Bush on the other hand had three solid games out of the 4 he had any meaningfull time.
He rushes for 92yds on 16 carries 5.6 per carry with a TD
Against S.D he gets 128 total yds of offense
Tampa…he put the entire team on his back rushing for 177 yds….
And why would we not give him more opportunities?
I am tired of 5-11 football!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Fargas sucks. Only an incredibly stupid football team would keep Fargas. Bush should be the starter, backed up by McFadden. Rankin is better than Fargas.
May 27th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Dakota 1… Yep nice clean up jerry
May 27th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Top ten in rushing in the NFL two years in a row, and McFadden is healthy again. Yeah, we suck.
John Mullin is a moron.
May 27th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
no way you start bush over mcfadden.but there should be games where he should get more carries.
May 27th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Kirk Morrison said:
I’m a third-round guy, but I feel like I’m a first-round talent in terms of my play on the field. I don’t look at the way people rate you. If you look at my draft class, I feel like I’m right up there with the guys who were drafted in the first round at my position.
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WOW. there were a ton of LB’s drafted before him in 2005 …
DeMarcus Ware
Shawne Merriman
Thomas Davis
Derrick Johnson
Kevin Burnett
Barrett Ruud
David Pollack
Lofa Tatupu
Channing Crowder
Matt McCoy
Dan Cody
Odell Thurman
that makes him the 13th LB drafted that year. I’d say he’s top 5 or 6
May 27th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
the 49ers ranked #20.did i miss something?
May 27th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I am not a Fargas fan but claiming Rankin is better might be pushing it a bit, lol. Although I’d rather dump Fargas and play Bush and McFadden with Rankin backing them up than have Fargas starting and taking more reps away from either of our young backs…
Eddie Jones was a good shooting guard but he had to get out da way for Kobe…Fargas has got to get out da way for our young backs baby!
May 27th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
when is Cornell Green’s court appearance?
May 27th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
I was prepared to hand this SI writer, John Mullin, a knucklehead award, but I find that I almost completely agree with him. His post was about QB-RB combos, not just RBs, and the fact is, Jamarcus is unproven and offers no serious evidence he’s ready to step up. Leaving out M. Bush is an oversight, but not a huge oversight, given his very limited track record. McF has huge potential but we’ve seen precious little payoff. So, although i still believe the offense can do some monster damage, i see no reason to criticize Mullin — or McDonald, for that matter. It’s May, and we’re a bunch of dreamers.
May 27th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Yes we are a bunch of dreamers but the reality is that the Lakers will win tonight. Big night for Gasol and Odom.
May 27th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Jerry, your connection sux bigtime, just as much as Man U… bwhahahhah
May 27th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
I totally agree with your analogy, Dakota. It’s kind of like Charged Down finally admitting he plays in a Blink 182 cover band, so he can stop giving Shockwave 4 a bad name.
Or KrappyKell having the decency to let his wife put hot pockets in their microwave instead of always filling it up with his krappy old goat head.
May 27th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Mullins article is what it is. I agree with his question that if Jamarcus does not take his career seriously, why would anyone else?? Can’t really argue with that. The reason our backfield is in the bottom is Jamarcus is at the bottom. Altho how many Q’s making less than 15 starts on 1-15 teams have put up All Pro numbers??? None.
May 27th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
when is Cornell Green’s court appearance?
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Not that I have any insight into this particular incident, but alot of these types of incidents never make it to court. Chargers are never filed or the charges are dropped, and both parties go about their merry ways. This was the point that both saddenraider and loserbrown somehow could not grasp. If and when Cornell Green or any other player for that matter, takes a felony battery, spousal abuse, or DV conviction, the league still does NOT have to do anything to that player. The criminal justice system will take care of that.
May 27th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
CNN hates the Raiders just like every other douche bag analyst out there. The facts…
2008 Rushing leader = NYG with 2,518 yards
Our beloved Raiders rank 10th with 1,987 yards
And the SB losers AZ Cardinals dead last with 1,178 yards.
With that said, we’re not the best but a hell of alot better than 31st. The haters keep hating and we’ll keep running the ball better then half the teams out there like we always do.
May 27th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
And All you did was praise Rob Ryan when he was here Priest but now that he is gone the defense didnt have discipline.
What a concept!
Were you born a fraud or did you grow into the role?
priesttj Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Has anyone noticed the size of NYG Dline, WOW! they are not very big but they play great run defense. Maybe because they are disciplined and play sound gap defense.
What a concept!
May 27th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
No. 28 backfield? What a joke. Do clowns like that do any analysis beyond looking at recent W-L totals? It’s just so off base I don’t have the patience to spell out the 20 or so reasons why it’s ludicrous. Everyone in here knows it is already anyway.
May 27th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
SI is know for Raider hating. It’s one of the few things they do well.
With that said, I think he was thinking of Russell when he wrote that. There’s very little mention of the RBs and he focuses most of the argument on our QB position. Even though, our backfield as a whole can’t be that bad.
May 27th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
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May 27th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
JMac, welcome back, and condolences.
The SI writer is obviously ignoring his own eyes, and the stats this team has shown it can put up on the ground. If the article was a little more fair, the Raiders running game should be EXPECTED to be at least in the top 2/3’s of the league at year’s end.
The only way the Raiders running game is bottom-5 is if McFadden, Fargas, and Bush all get hurt so that any two of them can’t play at the same time. And then, only if JaMarcus can’t throw the ball to open up the running game. Those things all can’t happen, can they? Can they?
Gulp.
May 27th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
The Thought: If Russell doesn’t seem to be taking his career seriously, why should anyone else?
Put everything else he says aside and ponder that.
May 27th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
And — Any writer who completely excludes from his article info on a running back who is expected to play such a large role as Bush, has obviously NOT done his job.
I suspect the writer of the artcle just wrote it based on highlights and headlines he saw somewhere. Michael Bush? Who’s he again?
If that crap article is worth anything, it’ll be fuel for these RB’s and O-Linemen to feed from — it’s time for all these young men to stand up and show the world they can play.
Stop whining about the “rankings” and do something about them, Raiders.
May 27th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Ok, well I guess he gets a pass, because we all know Russell hasnt shown the nation anything positive except for the last couple games of the season and a few flashes prior to that. He’s given us a whole bunch of reasons to be scared sh**less though. ie, body, consistency, accuracy, footwork, leadership, and overall football IQ would be nice things to have in a #1 overall QB. But hey, I’m no analyst.
May 27th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
I’ve never heard of this author John Mullin before. He must be ranked last among all authors.
May 27th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
LOL
May 27th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Put everything else aside and look at Russell’s QB rating the last six games of 2008. It’s when the circus finally ended and Cable got the team playing halfway decent football.
Receiver corps 28th, maybe. Not the backfield.
May 27th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Everyone bashes Fargas and he does have trouble staying healthy with his crash test dummy style and zero field vision, but he is by far the most complete back Oakland has.
With the horrid play of Kwame Harris and sub par outings of Cornel Green added to the loss of both FBs, Fargas was needed more than ever for his pass protection.
I can recall McFadden simply givving up and getting tossed aside by a San Diego blitzer who came free unchecked. The resulting fumble by Russell turned the tide of the game when we were clearly dominating.
If Fargas could catch the ballas well as Bush and DMC we’d be onto something, but as it stands, both our new RBs have a lot of work before they can be considered well rounded running backs.
May 27th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
30. Yup.
May 27th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I guarantee you JaMarcus is taking his career seriously. He looks over his shoulder, and sees an old vet with half his physical gifts who can really play the game.
If Garcia lights-up the preseason and JaMarcus doesn’t…there absolutely will be a QB controversy.
JaMarcus will step up — too much talent not to.
May 27th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
How can a guy rank the Raiders so low with NFL backfields when the Raiders ended up 10th overall in rushing last year with a hurt McFadden, Fargas starting most of the year and Bush barely playing while also losing both of our fullbacks to injury in Russell’s first year as a starter? What an idiot.
May 27th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Sorry for the loss Jerry. Glad to have you back.
May 27th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
34. Bingo
May 27th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Fargas is not a complete back. He runs hard and blocks well. That doesn’t make him complete, that makes him the only experienced veteran on the team who only started because McFadden had lost his toes and Bush was still on Coaching Staff IR.
May 27th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Oh yeah, Fuk Twitter
May 27th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Also…The blocking system we have is like the Broncos had all those years and they constantly plugged in new guys and they ran for 1,000 yards. The system is great for a rushing attack. The Broncos did it for about 6 years in a row with 6 different backs. Thats not skill, thats system.
May 27th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
37. Never said he was a complete back. Only that he was the “most” complete back.
He was named starter before DMC got hurt and if he hadn’t gotten hurt would’ve contiuned in that roll like it or not.
Frankly, I’m in the camp of NOT.
He’d be a 2nd string anywhere else.
May 27th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
39. You know it. System.
The ZBS is a direct take on one of Alexander the greats best military tactics.
May 27th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
All the negativity and bashing of Russell will disappear as soon as we start WINNING.
May 27th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Enjoy the day Raider fans!
Konnichiwa bishes!~
May 27th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Nnamdi21 – The negativity will stop as soon as we see a deep ball to Schilens, Higgins or DHB for a TD. That will be like seeing fireworks and everyone will look forward to more of those.
May 27th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
24 Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Nnamdi21 – The negativity will stop as soon as we see a deep ball to Schilens, Higgins or DHB for a TD. That will be like seeing fireworks and everyone will look forward to more of those.
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I look forward to moving the chains and getting first downs more then the once a game boom
May 27th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Or bomb
May 27th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
R8rpaver – I agree. I’m just saying that alot of people want entertainment and once they get that, they’re happy. My favorite offense was with Gannon until he started dinkin and dunkin every throw. It was a very balanced attack. Throw in a couple deep balls to back the defense off and you’re good.
May 27th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
put this article up in the locker room right next to Raider Rule #1 Cheating is encouraged
May 27th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
I see what your saying 24… but man give me a 15 yard completion on 3rd and 10 and im a happy camper…the long ball will come..we need to get first downs and control the ball first imo..and with our speed at WR we need to throw long to keep the safties out of the box..personaly i could care less about making BSPN highlights as long as we win moving the chain and getting first downs
May 27th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Aint that the truth. I remember a home game when we couldn’t get a first down in the first half to save our lifes. When we did, the crowd broke out in total shock. That was one of the saddest games i’ve been to, and I was at the Bronco and Charger opening games the last two years.
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r8rpaver Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
24 Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Nnamdi21 – The negativity will stop as soon as we see a deep ball to Schilens, Higgins or DHB for a TD. That will be like seeing fireworks and everyone will look forward to more of those.
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I look forward to moving the chains and getting first downs more then the once a game boom
May 27th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
When you talk about Bush in the backfield, don’t we need a QB named Richard?
May 27th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
I just don’t want my team to be embarrassing anymore. I want our team to command some form of respect with or without the playoffs.
May 27th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Raider leather jacket – $250
Raider draft day cap – $30
Raider sweatshirt – $55
Getting laughed at dressed in all my Raider glory by my neighbor the Donkey fan – NOT priceless.
After watching the Raiders for the last 5 years, I think I have a glimmer of understanding what those Aints and Bucs fans put up with in the 70s
May 27th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Nobody hates on Fargus that knows anything about football. If you get your info from the ESPN top 10 plays of the day, then you wouldn’t like him. If you have any sort of deeper concept of the game, then you see him as a good player. Both Bush and McFadden should end up being better and are currently better in some roles. But there is no way you could have expected either of them to be able to handle the non-run aspects of the position in their first outings. Fargus is to them what Garcia is to JR; somebody that plays their position better overall with less physical talent. When all of them can learn to put their talent to better use, watch out.
The SI article is mis-titled since they are ranking total offense. In that ranking, if you don’t win and/or have a high profile QB, you will get rated low. Simple as that. If it was about potential productivity of the RB position, then it would be ranked differently.
May 27th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
24 imo the thing that the RAIDERS need the most is STABILITY in the coaching staff…Players AND coaches have to grow as a TEAM
May 27th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
The best part about the upcomming season is that by the first half of the first game (monday night chargers) were going to know exactly what season it will be.
May 27th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Looking at the last 2 years, with an average run defense, both seasons are realistic 8-8 seasons. I agree with R8rpaver in that we need stability in the coaching staff and I would add CONTINUITY in the type of system utilized.
Also, Jmac doesn’t need to be a dominating QB for success with a strong D and a punishing run game. How many superbowls were won because of good defense and strong running games instead of stellar QB play?
May 27th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
BadMoodGuy – Fargas is so good that you spelled his name wrong. Classic!
May 27th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Speaking of Denver…..
Buck the Fuggets!
May 27th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
R8rpaver – Absolutely. Thats something we’ve needed badly over the year and thats the part that becomes Al Davis’ fault. He really needed to settle on someone and stick with them but not some part time offensive coordinator at a college or a washed up Head Coach to who brings in his old buddie who now runs a bed and breakfast. Those are the things that say…Al, what the hell were you thinking?
May 27th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
What the Defense needed was a Marshall who could uphold the Law instead of a Slob Ryan.
May 27th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
I got my Rosetta Stone Spanish Latin America Software today so I can learn Spanish. Pretty cool stuff. I’ll be getting the Irish version as well hopefully. Who the hell speaks Gaelic? My girl and I can learn and have our own personal language together. She already knows spanish.
May 27th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Gotta go. Peace.
May 27th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
24..I bet you a dollar to a dounut that the colts go 8-8 at best this year with all the changes to the coaching staff.Your 100% right it is AD fault..I think he want to win so bad at clouds his judgement in hopes for the quick fix and not look to building a TEAM from the ground up or as SnB says inside out.. Im hopeful we have turned the corner
May 27th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Tengo diarrea.
That’s all the Spanish I know.
May 27th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
You spelled ’spelled’ wrong, Classic.
May 27th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Make ya look. LOL. I have to learn: Don’t drink and post. At least, a very long time ago, I learned to not drink and call up old girlfriends.
What I find relatively amazing is that I’ve read several non-negative articles stating that the Raiders should be able to run the ball. It isn’t amazing that they should be able to run the ball, it is amazing that there are non-negative articles.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Bush = Jerome Bettis.
Wait and see…Bush is Joe Aska but with two good eyes!
McFadden best step it up or step aside.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
All right Laker fans, are you ready for your daily dose of Lamar Odom getting outplayed by guys with half the talent and twice the heart?
May 27th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Russells last 7 games, 91.9 passer rating/Fact.
I don’t expect an SI reporter doing that type of article to know any better.
But Raider Fans………????
May 27th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Lakers are 1 of 13 when missing their first shot and opponents score a 3.
Only thing worse than Denver fans are Raider fans that like LA.
Who to hate first?
May 27th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Great hockey game going on 51 shots and no score
May 27th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Bush = LeBron James.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
what the hell is hockey?
May 27th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Jerry, seriously, why do you even acknowledge this simple minded twits? As soon as the word “hater” appears in a post, glance back up at the author’s name, make a note of it, and proceed to simply skip over anything that moron writes in the future.
I understand the need to retaliate, respond, whatever. But these clowns just don’t warrant the effort. Even in the dead of offseason, you’ve got better things to talk about than showing these Al Davis sheep that their tripe has actually hit a nerve.
The high road, Jerrah. It rarely fails.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
What no ice in beijing ?…just rice..i get it
May 27th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
KoolKell,
You know we live in a what have you done for me lately society. What has Jamarcus done lately? One-hopped guys in a non-contact practice and showed up on a website partying and looking quite chubby. It is what it is, when he starts looking good again (like the last few weeks of last season) the bandwagon will be chalk full once again.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
What’s up Nation?
May 27th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
I would have thought lately meant the last 7 games of the season. As far as I know there’s been no games since.
No, the sterotypes are too delicious for some to resist.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
# 24 Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Fargas is not a complete back. He runs hard and blocks well. That doesn’t make him complete, that makes him the only experienced veteran on the team who only started because McFadden had lost his toes and Bush was still on Coaching Staff IR.
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KoolKell Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Russells last 7 games, 91.9 passer rating/Fact.
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Both of these statements are basically right altho Fargas is a little more complete than 24 allows here. When you break down these statements it yields some interesting results. You could not have a “rookie” RB back there with Kwame Harris at LT, Cornell Green at RT, and Jamarcus who not only was basically a rookie last year, but was not allowed to audible out of certain play calls. Compare that to a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady who is calling out the protections to his team mates. So, Fargas being the vet, he is there. The fact that Jamarcus DID improve as the year went on, does bode well for both him and us. We need MUCH more production from the Q position tho.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
R8,
Can you imagine having a middle eastern Hockey team?? LMFAO
Sand Hockey!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Anybody with half a brain–for instance the posters on this site–realize that Jerry is a hater who sugarcoats the Raiders shortcomings. Oh sure, he’ll try to divert us now and then with some pufter pieces for the Nation, but you don’t fool us, Jer!
May 27th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Ohioraider Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Anybody with half a brain–for instance the posters on this site–realize that Jerry is a hater who sugarcoats the Raiders shortcomings.
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A Hater, who sugarcoats Raider shortcomings????????????????????????
May 27th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
He is not a fan, but I don’t think he is A Hater!!
May 27th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
That why they play water polo…cant keep the ice frozen
May 27th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Kool,
No games, but plenty to talk about, and very little of it positive. Most likely much ado about nothing, however.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
r8rpaver, you are thinking of Japan, not China…Japanese can’t say “r”…just ask KoolKell
May 27th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Jerry’s a reporter. He’s not here to tell us bedtime stories.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Hay O could you imagine some of the team names ….LMAO..how bout..The Yemin Sand Sharks
May 27th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
R8,
LMFAO
They do have a descent water Polo team.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
r8rpaver, you are thinking of Japan, not China…Japanese can’t say “r”…just ask KoolKell
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So is it Lice Hockey?????
May 27th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Hai, Lice Hockey.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
So the Nuggets are going to have beat the Lakers and the refs tonight I see.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Some of the players on the roster:
- Khalil bin Hallal
- Mohammad Kharbahha
- Mohammad Zidan
- Mohammad Aded Allah
- Mohammad bin Mohammad
Can you imagine their cheerleaders??!
lol
May 27th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
So O would Saudi Arabia be the farm team for the Edmonton OILERS
May 27th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Magic Vs Nuggets is probably a bummer financially for the NBA.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
R8,
LMAO
I would pay good money to watch that team!!
May 27th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
R8,
I lived in Saudi.
Can’t say Saudi and farm in the same sentence. It sounds too weird.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Raider O Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Some of the players on the roster:
- Khalil bin Hallal
- Mohammad Kharbahha
- Mohammad Zidan
- Mohammad Aded Allah
- Mohammad bin Mohammad
Can you imagine their cheerleaders??!
lol
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Shoot O all you would see is ther eyes..LOL..How would you like to do play be play with that group of names….my gawd….pass from Mohammad to Mohammad..Mohammad shoots and scores in the 5 hole of Mohammad
May 27th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
# KoolKell Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Ohioraider Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Anybody with half a brain–for instance the posters on this site–realize that Jerry is a hater who sugarcoats the Raiders shortcomings.
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A Hater, who sugarcoats Raider shortcomings????????????????????????
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He’s a very complicated man.
May 27th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
OK how about minor league team or triple A is that better
May 27th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
R8,
That’s what it sounds like when they have a soccer game!
I have 6 cousins named Mohammad.
May 27th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Raider O Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
R8,
That’s what it sounds like when they have a soccer game!
I have 6 cousins named Mohammad.
++++++++++++++++++
LMAO
May 27th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Back later O games going into OT
May 27th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Later R8.
May 27th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
KoolKell…
so when Raider O’s 20 month old daughter said “Laiders” when she saw McFadden on TV, she actually spoke with an japanese accent? LOL COOL! some daughter you got Raider O, not only does she know football already, and speaks, but she does it with accents =)
May 27th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
# KoolKell Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Ohioraider Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Anybody with half a brain–for instance the posters on this site–realize that Jerry is a hater who sugarcoats the Raiders shortcomings.
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A Hater, who sugarcoats Raider shortcomings????????????????????????
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LOL, i would assume a hater didnt sugercoat anything =), nice spotted =)
May 27th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
BadMoodGuy…
who is Fargus!?
May 27th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
OH no its the spelling police…Hide!!!!!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
R8rpaver…
nopez, its the appointed name police =)
May 27th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
what’s this guys email addy. how does he rank an unknown rb out of denver ahead of a known quantity of halfbacks / blocking te’s / and our Fullback leader?
May 27th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
LOL
May 27th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
R8rpaver…
but isnt it a bit amusing that he raves about fargas, and cant even spell his name…. to me it takes hole lot credibility out of his post =)
May 27th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Oh snap!
May 27th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
oh back to bed for me… just had to be awake for a conference call from South Korea…
see ya all, when i get up again, night!
May 27th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
LMN coming from a person that cant spell very good (thats me by the way) i could care less..it me it doesnt mean a person is less credible if they miss spell a word or two..Like me i can speak well enough just cant spell very good so i try to word thing diffrent so the spelling is correct..most of the time lol
May 27th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Night LMN
May 27th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Oh snap paver maybe needs to watch Sesame Street in the mornings,…boy it must be tough to be an adult and cant type or spell very well…oh snap that sucks!
May 27th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Fargas Bush and Mcfadden all have yet to prove they can stay healthy.. Bush wasnt given much of an oppertunity to see if he can handle 20+ touches a game.. Mcfadden had 2 turf toes and a shoulder injury.. Fargas has his knees. big time question marks with all 3.. all 3 still have alot to prove before we annoit anyone anything..
May 27th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Not everyone in the world is as cool as you are Bob
May 27th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
After looking at the stats per game its not hard to imagine the Raiders being ranked that low. The 10th rank in rushing is pulled way down by the 32nd rank passing yards per game actually less than half that of the number 1 ranked team.
So I completely agree with Jerry and John Mullin.
Total Yards Raiders rank: #29
yards per game: 272.2
Passing Raiders Rank: #32
yards per game: 148.1
Rushing Raiders Rank: #10
yards per game: 124.2
May 27th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
LMN,
LMAO
Good night bro.
May 27th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
I can’t spell to save my life, but I’m great with #s.
May 27th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
A “Fargus” is what you get when a troll (ie ‘u’) doesn’t (MR, please note the ‘ after the n and before the t) know jack about Fargas as a football player and therefore try to dislodge the discussion.
What is a ‘…’ followed by two carriage returns?
Where is the capitalization on the ‘who’?
What is a ‘!?’?
Ad hominem much, Mr. Twain?
May 27th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
So RaiderO, you ready to explain yourself? Jerry calls a spade a spade and you take issue wit it.
May 27th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Dude,
I answered you a few times!!
May 27th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
That shows you what outside people think of fargas , they think the Raiders are so in love with a mediocre rb they he will get more carries than Bush. Prove them wrong big al cut fargas now don’t give cable the chance to start mr. 1 td. Let’s kill with BUSH/DMAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Dude,
Do You have problemswirh your memory, we talked about this yesterday!!
You keep asking me the same question every night!!!
Explain Yourself!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
You always run away when pressed on it. Your last answer was “just look at todays entry”. Has nothing to do with Jerrys covg of Russell. You tell me how he isnt being fair, every media outlet is reporting the same thing about the kid.
May 27th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Yeah lets kill with a guy who was banged up ALL year and a guy that recorded DNP after DNP and only played as a last resort.
May 27th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Run away!!! lol
I guess it’s time to run away again.
I answered your question!
You love to argue, don’t you? lol
May 27th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
If you think Bush deserved any of those DNP you’re crazy that was his punishment for not wanting to move to fb when the guy in front of him can’t catch can’t shake and couldn’t find the endzone . This is the Raiders maybe you aren’t old enough to know when “Just Win Baby” wasn’t a saying but the way the Raiders handled the franchise!
May 27th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
See man, you dont even stand by your takes. You cry about the unfair treatment of Russell but you cant even explain yourself or your reasons. Weak.
May 27th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
“Just win baby” LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No way you just quoted that B.S. Al Davis line. You are a joke, just like Al Davis.
” Come on Al cut Fargas so we can roll with DMAC/Bush!” LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Dude,
Stop your crying!!!
I answered you last night!! If you don’t like my answer, stop asking me the same question. That’s Weak!! Asking me again will not change my answer!!
May 27th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Hey dude how many SB have you won just checking oh right 0 so I’ll roll with Al cause I love the Raiders and Al is the Raiders, he even f-ed over my hero Marcus Allen and I still bleed Silver&Black but that’s how I roll I’ve backed the same teams since I was 5 not my dad’s teams my teams so Laugh all you want I will still proudly wear my Raiders gear!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
How many SBs does your God have in sayyyyy the last 25 years?
May 27th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
RaiderO,
You never answered it. You threw out a whiny lil accusation with no basis. Because you have no basis for your argument you wont give an answer. Well done. CLAP,CLAP,CLAP,CLAP
May 27th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Guys,weve got a stable of running backs,a young qb,young wideouts,young dbs,so lets not tell anyone!Lets surprise everyone!!! ya right!I believe this year will be a STATEMENT year,and it wont be a surprise to the division,period!!! RAIDERS!!!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Ooohh snap!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
RaiderO,dont let dude,mr/mrs maddenraider,etc all negative fans,get to you,tell them to niner on RAIDERS!!!!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Yeah, Raider O, dont let realistic Raiders fans get to you. RAIDERS!!!! LOL!!! Keep drinking that kool aid bro.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
142,niner on!!!!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Good comeback, whatever the hell that means. niner on??? ummmm, ok. RAIDERS!!!!! LOL! How many more losing seasons before you check into reality hotel?
May 27th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
post144,need directions,and it must be green!
May 27th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
144,niner on,and on!
May 27th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Oh Snap the legends will be at the Roseville galleria this sunday…Snake,..Freddie,..whole buncha legends,…Oh Snap,..throw out bass,..midrange,..ya feel me oh snap!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
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May 27th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
148 niner on ,on,on,on
May 27th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
Oh snap niner talk in here?…oh snap!
May 27th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Oh SNAP,dude is here,from ?dude is from which county,state,country,continent,galaxy?oh SNAP,just a hater,for help in his world he NEEDS to NINER ON ,on
May 27th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
148. Read more what? All this is is a link to your lame azz site that provides a link…right back HERE.
L-A-M-E
May 28th, 2009 at 1:00 am
Jerry this is much more of a slight to Russell than anything. The notion that Russell doesn’t take his career serious is something that is unsubstanciated. But is a widely held belief. It IMO starts with the local media spreading stories about his weight and lack of intensity based on demeanor.
Anyone that would leave a back of MBush’s talent out of any equation concerning the Raiders backfield talent, simply can’t be taken seriously. So when you or anyone takes apart MBush’s contribution last year as something insignificant. It just show’s a serious lack of football knowledge.
Why do you think NFL GM’s were inquiring about Bush, for his good looks? Anyone with half a brain that’s responsible for an NFL franchise would want this kid on THEIR TEAM…………..period.
Also Jerry, watch when the season starts and the rest of the league seees what Russell really is then we’ll see if the ridicule continues or changes to respect. Everyone is basing their opinion of Russell on rumors……….period.
May 28th, 2009 at 1:10 am
post137,dont believe my God cares who wins a game,just that all are able to carry on/with family ,after the game, RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!
May 28th, 2009 at 3:40 am
Morning NATION!!!
May 28th, 2009 at 3:57 am
Ahhh,someone who understands the concept!!!
BadMoodGuy Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Nobody hates on Fargus that knows anything about football. If you get your info from the ESPN top 10 plays of the day, then you wouldn’t like him. If you have any sort of deeper concept of the game, then you see him as a good player. Both Bush and McFadden should end up being better and are currently better in some roles. But there is no way you could have expected either of them to be able to handle the non-run aspects of the position in their first outings. Fargus is to them what Garcia is to JR; somebody that plays their position better overall with less physical talent. When all of them can learn to put their talent to better use, watch out.
The SI article is mis-titled since they are ranking total offense. In that ranking, if you don’t win and/or have a high profile QB, you will get rated low. Simple as that. If it was about potential productivity of the RB position, then it would be ranked differently.
May 28th, 2009 at 4:29 am
Raider O Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
R8,
I lived in Saudi.
Can’t say Saudi and farm in the same sentence. It sounds too weird
Maybe you should get used 2 it Raider O.Saudi Arabia has built 5 desalianation plants.When their oil runs out,they will become the bread-basket of the Middle East.They will turn salt-water into irrigation water 2 feed the Middle East.Far-sighted they are
May 28th, 2009 at 5:28 am
I played a lot of football, mostly rb sorry I know tons about the game fargas is a mediocre rb watch any teams starting rb and all 32 can shake a lineman or lb when 1 om 1 but fargas who also can’t catch. If being voted by the players of awful teams the no.1 teammate congrats I say somebody has to lead the Warriors and Clippers in scoring don’t mean their any good.
May 28th, 2009 at 5:42 am
I use to work on a evapration farm with my uncle owen and aunt Beru.
May 28th, 2009 at 5:52 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,4EVA,NOMOREFARGAS.
May 28th, 2009 at 5:55 am
Morning Dirt-Lot
May 28th, 2009 at 6:06 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Dirt Lot, 4eva, NMF, LMN, Rockstar, and whoever else I may have missed…how are you guys this morning?
May 28th, 2009 at 6:37 am
I’ll take the jruss pic over the vince young mantasic picture seriously if ever i was at a club with nothing but guys with their shirts off Im out theri!
May 28th, 2009 at 6:43 am
Let me be the first to welcome the morning crowd with a hearty GGGGOOOOO LLLLAAAKKKEERRRRSSS!!!
Thuggets = goodnight now.
May 28th, 2009 at 6:45 am
Did anyone see the George Karl post game presser? He blamed his team’s poor performance on….
Justin Fargas.
May 28th, 2009 at 6:47 am
Yeah, i saw that BSJ. Karl, who i think is a good coach, blamed everything on the refs…hahaha!!! oh well…funny, he blamed it on Justin Fargas. Almost spit out my coffee…LOL
May 28th, 2009 at 6:57 am
Six straight opening game losses come on at least let me enjoy week 1 kill the chargers!!!!!
May 28th, 2009 at 7:11 am
NoMoreFargas Says:
May 28th, 2009 at 6:57 am
Six straight opening game losses come on…..
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And Lil Huggy was drafted when? 2003? Six seasons ago?
Coincidence? I think not.
Fkkin’ Fargas.
May 28th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Make Fargas the starting nose tackle.
His most consistent quality is running into O-linemen.
May 28th, 2009 at 7:37 am
fukkin Fargas,again =)
May 28th, 2009 at 7:39 am
Same season as Nnamdi,no???
May 28th, 2009 at 7:43 am
Sam Williams
May 28th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Man that article is based purely on name-value players, rather than production. LT and Rivers, are you kidding me?
Oh well, maybe it will keep our players motivated and angry this season. They have a lot to prove. Russell needs to become a competent QB who can make the throws, McFadden needs to stay healthy, Bush needs to be more consistent, and Fargas needs to remain on the bench until we need him as a reserve.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Who won the game last night? I just woke up from a medical induced coma I was placed in to avoid watching the game…I guess they gave me too much juice since I just woke up!
May 28th, 2009 at 8:46 am
good morning Dakota, BBB, Stabler, BSJ …
the late morning crew?
brunch crew!
May 28th, 2009 at 8:47 am
good morning Dirt Lot, Hwnrdr, NMF, 4eva …
the AM crew is still here?
i’m late. got held up in a meeting
anything new? anything I missed?
May 28th, 2009 at 8:49 am
nope
May 28th, 2009 at 8:49 am
we were all waiting on you Rockstar!!!
May 28th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Morning Rockstar.
Damn, work calls…and then I have to drive to Fergus Falls, Minnesota for a cousin’s high school graduation…9 1/2 hours each way…thank god for xm radio and a built in dvd player!
Have a nice weekend everyone.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:50 am
Sure thats not FARGAS FALLS Dakota???
May 28th, 2009 at 8:51 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
oh back to bed for me… just had to be awake for a conference call from South Korea…
see ya all, when i get up again, night!
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LMN, what did the S. Koreans want to know from people in Denmark? How best to surrender to N. Korea?
muhahahaha
j/k LMN…later
May 28th, 2009 at 8:52 am
you too Dakota.
9 1/2 hours each way is a long way just for a cousin’s high school graduation.
I’d sent him a card with $20 in it saying “Congrats! welcome to the real world …”
May 28th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Fargas Falls, lol…good one.
Okay, I really am out this time!
May 28th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Fargas Falls. LOL
May 28th, 2009 at 8:53 am
I’m gonna think of Fargas every time I see one of the crash test dummy commercials
May 28th, 2009 at 8:57 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 28th, 2009 at 8:52 am
you too Dakota.
9 1/2 hours each way is a long way just for a cousin’s high school graduation.
I’d sent him a card with $20 in it saying “Congrats! welcome to the real world …”
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I thought about that but my aunt came all the way down for my HS, college, and post graduate ceremonies…and my wedding and I skipped her last kid’s HS graduation, so I have to go to this one.
My family holds grudges like you wouldn’t believe (Irish-German blood)
May 28th, 2009 at 8:57 am
schit I’m late!
May 28th, 2009 at 9:00 am
5 qs with Ricky Brown
Ricky Brown was the starting strongside linebacker last season, cracking the starting lineup for the first time since the Raiders took a flier on the undrafted free agent in 2006. So, what’s he doing up at middle linebacker the past month?
Making Kirk Morrison expendable when his contract is up in January? Giving Jon Alston a chance to prove his worth at the SAM?
Only training camp will tell. Until then, here’s a Ricky Brown interview after an OTA practice last week.
(And a reminder, the reason for these blogs-in-a-can is the team is off this week. Just feeding the beast).
Q: What’s up with Ricky in the middle (also known as mike) and not the strongside (or sam position)?
A: “They told me this offseason, ‘Well, we know you can play Sam, we just want to see you play Mike. The only thing I try to do is just go out here and get better every day. I know Kirk’s a great player. Me, I’m just out here working every day. Whatever decision the coaches make, I’m completely cool with playing any position.”
Q: Which are you most comfortable with?
“Playing Sam last year gave me great comfort, and I played that basically my entire college career. My second year, in ‘07, I played middle. I feel like middle is probably my most natural position and I can take advantage of my lateral movement there. So, it has been good.”
Q: Recovered from the double sports hernia surgery?
“Yeah, it’s all good. It was a long road to recovery. I had surgery right before New Year’s and I’ve been rehabbing. I saw my surgeon a couple of weeks ago, and he said, ‘You look good.’ So, I’ve been out there. At the mini camp, I was just sore from having the two-a-days but having these one-a-days and continuing to workout, by training camp those two-a-days will be nothing.”
Q: How different now from Kiffin-Davis offseason of ‘08?
“This is great. Having coach Cable here is awesome. I know all the guys on the team really, really respect him a lot. Just the energy with us guys being here for the offseason program, working out every day, it’s just building a really nice core. With that, the coaches, almost probably half the staff is completely new, but everyone is jelling together really nice. So, by the time we hit Napa, it should be fun.”
Q: What will make this run defense better?
A: “For me, always stopping the run is a little bit about attitude. It’s kind of something that’s deep within a guy. We’re really kind of getting that individual coming, not just individually but as a whole. We saw the stats from last year and that’s embarrassing. But after seeing what we’ve done, especially with our offense the way they’re able to run the ball. Yeah, they’re hitting some things on us, but we’re doing a good job against them. And they’re one of the premier running attacks in the NFL. So, it should be good.”
-David White (SF Chronicle)
May 28th, 2009 at 9:09 am
stopping the run is a little bit about attitude. It’s kind of something that’s deep within a guy.
We saw the stats from last year and that’s embarrassing
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Ricky Brown is a tackling machine. he gets it. he’s a guy that works harder than everybody else, because he’s not as athletic as guys like Morrison, Howard & Alston. He’s going to be 100 percent healthy and then he’ll reclaim that starting job from Alston. It’s good to have a quality back up at MLB too, because Isaiah Ekejiuba has never played any defense for us. He’s just a ST beast
May 28th, 2009 at 9:14 am
His most consistent quality is running into O-linemen.
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LOL Morning Nation!!!
Whats Good??
May 28th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Dakota, make sure you wear your best flannel shirt & work boots. lol
May 28th, 2009 at 9:20 am
good morning OAKlifer, TW …
May 28th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Double R, thanks for the RB Q&A on point as always!!!
Dakota…..for get the flannel you get that Brandon Roy jersey yet?????
May 28th, 2009 at 9:24 am
mORNIN’ RaiderRockstar, what’s happen’?
May 28th, 2009 at 9:28 am
i HEARD ON nfl CHNNL LAST NIGHT IF dALLAS DOESN’T WIN IN THE PLAYOFFS THIS YEAR, they can kiss Wade goodbye & hire Shanny. I’ll have 2 reasons to hate Dallas!!!
Wade will be replaced by Shanny a 2nd time in his career. lol
May 28th, 2009 at 9:43 am
not much TW. you?
Wade Phillips is an excellent DC, but loves the 3-4 defense, so he wouldn’t be a good fit in Oakland even if John Marshall doesn’t pan out.
Having said that, I think the Marshall plan will be effective. Slob Ryan was a joke. Came here with zero experience as a DC and zero experience in a 4-3 defense
May 28th, 2009 at 9:50 am
You’re right RR, another exPats coach failure. I’m hoping McDaniels will be the next exPats failure. Shanny & Dallas, perfect fit for a team I hate worse than SD.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Dallas has a rat problem
Shanny the Tranny fits right in there.
However, that would all but terminate whatever relationship Jerry Jones had with Al Davis
May 28th, 2009 at 9:56 am
quick question……
Do we have a competion at center or does Satele win automaticaly?
Who starts at RG and RT Assuming Henderson mans the LT spot and Gallery continues to shine at G?
Is a rookie and a 1 yr guy playing in the secondary going to cause problems or do our corners make up for their youth and inexperince??
May 28th, 2009 at 9:57 am
I think Jason Garrett, Tony Romo and JJ’s son all convinced the owner that Terrell Owens was the reason Dallas couldn’t take the next step and make some noise in the playoffs.
If they can’t get it done this year I think it might cost Garrett his job there, not only as future HC, but as OC even …
May 28th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Oh snap the Raiders now twitter! http://www.twitter.com/oakraiders oh snap!
May 28th, 2009 at 10:08 am
OAKlifer: regarding the o-line
Satele will have to get healthy first and foremost. Once he’s 100 percent and ready to go he’ll have to “compete” with Wade & Morris for the starting job. Wade & Morris are not quality players, much less starters in this league. If Satele doesn’t win i’ll be shocked. That would be a wasted trade to acquire him from Miami, even if he did come rather cheap.
Carlisle and Green will start at RG & RT again unfortunately. Mark Wilson, Marcus Johnson, John Compas & Morris are all going to “compete” with Carlisle. McQuistan will join them when he gets healthy. I’d be surprised to see any of these guys in the starting line up, even if Cooper isn’t all that impressive. they wouldn’t really be considered upgrades imo
Green will have to fend off Erik Pears and perhaps Khalif Barnes, which might not be that difficult a task considering Pears was out of football last year (injured) and Barnes hasn’t played RT since college. “Mop Handle” is one of Cable’s scholarship players. It will probably take some convincing from Davis, Rowan or the new OL coach (Cable’s buddy) to pry Cornbread out of the starting unit
May 28th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Can the Raiders win this year?
1. Teams with strong running games tend to win…even with average/below average QB play. In 2008 the top 15 running attacks won no fewer than 8 games…with the exception of Oakland. This includes teams with QBs such as Jason Campbell, Joe Flacco, Kerry Collins and an old Brett Favre. In 2009 the Oakland running game should be consistent and more effective with a healthy DMAC and more Michael Bush in the backfield. Oh, Lorenzo Neal is another run-blocking o-lineman
2. Russell will improve. Despite all the rhetoric about Garcia and laziness…this QB was a functional QB down the stretch. The statistics prove it out. He’s getting real coaching for the 1st time in his career and a better playbook. The Raiders need functional…they aren’t a team like Arizona or Indy where the QB is the beginning middle and end
3. Receivers are better: Miller, Schilens,JLH, DMAC & Bush are better for having another yr under their belt. The Raiders played 13 gms with Curry, Lelie, Walker as starters
4. The O-Line is better: Is it great…nope…but its better than that b.s from last year…the tackles should be stabalized…again that’s all they need…if they cut down on penalties inside the red-zone…that would be an extra win or two right there
5. The Broncos and Chiefs are garbage and they are far, far, far worse than last year
6. The defense can’t be any worse than last year can it? I am hoping they can show some modest improvement.
7. No one expects the Raiders to be any good. Teams will be overlooking them, it not much but helps. Although the Texans will probably come ready to play
The key to the season is Cable EFFECTIVELY using his running attack and calling a game that keeps Russell and the receiving corps involved in the ball game.
Honestly, I think the run defense is going to get exposed with this schedule. But still, the Raiders should be able to get 8 wins this year.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Is a rookie and a 1 yr guy playing in the secondary going to cause problems or do our corners make up for their youth and inexperince??
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FS: Eugene/Huff
SS: Branch/Boyd
that’s what it looks like right now in OTA’s. I imagine it will look much different when training camp and preseason roll around. Mitchell will finish school and Keith Davis will enter the mix. Here’s my question. Will Huff ever get to work with the starters at FS? Will they try Branch with the starters at FS? Will Cable pull the plug on Hiram Eugene, even though he’s one of his favorites? Is Mike Mitchell everything we’ve heard he can be – facing much tougher competition?
as far as starting Branch at FS and Mitchell at SS and their youth & lack of experience. it all depends. if they learn the playbook and get on the same page with the defense I don’t see this being a problem. If there is a breakdown in communication and they start missing assignments resulting in missed tackles or blown coverage it going to look like Schweigert and Gibson out there. We can’t have that. These kids have all the potential in the world, but it’s up to them how much work and effort they put in it. Certainly having 2 shutdown corners makes the safeties job’s easier, but if the front seven can stop the run (again) it won’t matter …
May 28th, 2009 at 10:28 am
oh snap!!!!!
May 28th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Can the Raiders win this year?
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S&B: nice post #203 !
i’m concerned about the o-line, the WR corps and the run defense like most Raider fans. but I really think this season’s win-loss record hinges upon 2 things
1. Tom Cable’s leadership & play calling
2. JaMarcus Russell’s maturity & improvement
May 28th, 2009 at 10:30 am
oh snap! Biz Markie in the house!
marky mark and the funky bunch …
May 28th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Rockstar,
I think Mike Mitchell and Tyvon Branch will be given every opportunity to win their respective jobs. Branch is a write in at SS. Gibril Wilson was sent packing and no other starting caliber veteran was brought in. Plus Branch is the fastest guy back there.
Hiram Eugene probably gets the start unless Mitchell’s hitting prowess translates to camp.
Regardless, I am not expecting much from the defense this year. They really didn’t do much up front to address the run defense. I hope they can put some modesst improvement in the run defense and that Nnamdi and C.J hold it down on pass defense allowning Scott and whoever is the LDE to get pressure on the QB.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:40 am
4eva,
Saudi has lots of black and yellow Gold, and nut much water. Other Countries in the Midd East have plenty of water.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Double R,
Thanks for the insight bro…I think MM will be starting this year when he gets on the feild..also think huff will be fine/ok not 7th overall ok but starting/backup saftey and nickel cb ok!!
SnB….203 Good work Brother!!!!!
May 28th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Ohh…snap 203 post of the day!!!!
ohh..snap the biz might be g-a_y
May 28th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Dakota…
S. Korea is major part in shipbuilding, and we have been talking to them to move our 20 and 40 container manufacturing plant out there, htey have the steel it cost to much to do it here in DK… they already build some of our ships, so why not let them build our containers….
May 28th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Jerry’s not a hater. He’s calls it fair, and he’s right, that CNN article is crap. But Bush will keep proving himself. He’s definitely got the talent.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Raider O…
I 100% disagrees with your take on Jerry… and sadly I agree with ‘dude’
May 28th, 2009 at 10:46 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 28th, 2009 at 6:47 am
“Yeah, i saw that BSJ. Karl, who i think is a good coach, blamed everything on the refs…hahaha!!!”
Just like Phil Jackson did after the Lakers lost game 4. It is a known fact that every coach in the NBA playoffs do and say whatever they can in the post game pressers to influence the officiating. In fact Phil Jackson is a master of it and has been doing it since the Chicago days.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Rockstar,
I agree with you about playcalling and Russell’s maturity.
I guess I would add that within the context of playcalling, Tom Cable has to get the most out of his running game. Things like staying with a hot running back. For example, against the Giants, pounding Bush or Fargas might not be effective….but if Cable uses DMAC like the Eagles used Westbrook against the Giants…then DMAC maybe gets 80 or 90% of the carries.
In another game, if Bush is ripping up an opponent ala Tampa…keep feeding him the ball.
My biggest concern is how Cable uses that running attack. Even more than Russell. Cable should review film about how the Giants and Panthers use their running backs effectively. I am still scared that when its all said and done…Fargas is starting the 1st QTR and DMAC is the one getting token carries.
We will see
May 28th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Here’s the curious thing though. Bush refused to switch to FB which is fine, but when did the FB position become such a “step down” for running backs? There have been a lot of great fullbacks who did it all running, blocking, pass catching and were certainly every bit as part of the offense as the halfback. A fullback used right and not just as a blocker gives the offense an extra weapon.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:50 am
# NoMoreFargas Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Hey dude how many SB have you won just checking oh right 0 so I’ll roll with Al cause I love the Raiders and Al is the Raiders, he even f-ed over my hero Marcus Allen and I still bleed Silver&Black but that’s how I roll I’ve backed the same teams since I was 5 not my dad’s teams my teams so Laugh all you want I will still proudly wear my Raiders gear!!!
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totally disagree….
WE the fans ARE the raiders, Al MADE the raiders…. huge difference to me…
if Al is the raiders, when he some day dies, what then, we stop being fans, the dismantle the team or what??? WE ARE THE RAIDERS!!!
May 28th, 2009 at 10:51 am
LMN,
Are you well??
It’s ok that you disagree with me, but you agree with Dude!!! Why???
May 28th, 2009 at 10:57 am
4eva,
Other countries in the Medd East have more water and Rain than Saudi. They have rivers. Lakes, rain, snow, but Saudi has none of that. I don’t care if they have 50 plants, it’s for their own use. They need it, other countries don’t!!
May 28th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Raider O…
because i read you socalled argument, and I really didnt see it hold any water…
May 28th, 2009 at 11:00 am
rightnasty Says:
May 28th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Here’s the curious thing though. Bush refused to switch to FB which is fine, but when did the FB position become such a “step down” for running backs? There have been a lot of great fullbacks who did it all running, blocking, pass catching and were certainly every bit as part of the offense as the halfback. A fullback used right and not just as a blocker gives the offense an extra weapon.
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There are not enough carries to go around. A FB is only going to see 2 or 3 carries and maybe a pass or two…many games the FB won’t see anything. The tailback is going to get the 20 – 30 carries a game because he’s the gamebreaker. A FB is an extra lineman for the most part and in general has a different set of skills than a tailback
May 28th, 2009 at 11:01 am
I think Mike Mitchell and Tyvon Branch will be given every opportunity to win their respective jobs. Branch is a write in at SS. Gibril Wilson was sent packing and no other starting caliber veteran was brought in. Plus Branch is the fastest guy back there.
Hiram Eugene probably gets the start unless Mitchell’s hitting prowess translates to camp.
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agree and disagree. Huff & Branch were both corners in college. Usually college corners are either NFL cornerbacks or free safeties. Huff played his first 2 years at strong safety – big mistake. Branch was a back up strong safety last year behind Wilson. Very few DB’s that are built like a corner can hit like a linebacker. Mike Mitchell can hit like a mack truck. That’s why we drafted him. He’s fast and he can lay wood. Putting a player like Mitchell at FS to play centerfield and ballhawk would make no sense. He needs to be down in the box. He desires physical contact.
Huff or Branch can play FS. Hiram Eugene is a scrub, I’m done talking about him.
May 28th, 2009 at 11:02 am
LMN,
Did you read my response from 2 days ago or yesterday?
May 28th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Raider O…
exactly…
May 28th, 2009 at 11:12 am
My biggest concern is how Cable uses that running attack. Even more than Russell.
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Chargers (x2), Giants, Eagles, Cowboys, Redskins, Steelers, Ravens
thats 8 games we’ll have to win with Russell’s arm. These teams will stuff McFadden, Bush, Fargas or whoever we got back there with 8 men in the box and heavy pressure all game long. These teams will force the Raiders to throw. Russell will have to prove to teams that they need to respect the Raiders passing game, because we were terrible last year. They’ll watch film, look at the stat sheet or roster and know what our game plan is. run, run and then run some more. I’m not saying Russell should throw 30+ passes against these teams, but you need a balanced attack or thier defenses will beat you into submission
May 28th, 2009 at 11:13 am
LMN,
I know a lot people here disagree with me about that. I never called Jerry a Hater, and I don’t think he is. I used to have a problem, but 24 said it best: it’s not an article. It’s jerry’s blog, and it’s about his opinions.
May 28th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Raider O…
right on! and he reports what HE SEES, on HIS BLOG
May 28th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Like I said before. I come here to chat with you guys, and Jerry has a few good posts. lol
May 28th, 2009 at 11:18 am
LMN,
Exactly….
lol
May 28th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Say what you want about Chargers coach Norv Turner, but he’s shown the ability to shine when the pressure’s on……….**************************************
this is a head line from Bill williamson on BSPN LMFAO….isnt the only thing Norv known for is getting wally pipped in the playoffs???? just curious???
May 28th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Freee Dirty and bring back 408!!!!!!
May 28th, 2009 at 11:23 am
and where the hell is ‘Thec’?
May 28th, 2009 at 11:27 am
LMN,
I don’t know what’s up thec, but 408 was here yesterday. He was banned..
May 28th, 2009 at 11:29 am
isnt the only thing Norv known for is getting wally pipped in the playoffs????
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LOL. and those nasty scars or whatever on his face
May 28th, 2009 at 11:29 am
4eva,
Where are you bro?
May 28th, 2009 at 11:31 am
good afternoon Raider O, LMN …
May 28th, 2009 at 11:36 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 28th, 2009 at 11:12 am
My biggest concern is how Cable uses that running attack. Even more than Russell.
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Chargers (x2), Giants, Eagles, Cowboys, Redskins, Steelers, Ravens
thats 8 games we’ll have to win with Russell’s arm. These teams will stuff McFadden, Bush, Fargas or whoever we got back there with 8 men in the box and heavy pressure all game long. These teams will force the Raiders to throw. Russell will have to prove to teams that they need to respect the Raiders passing game, because we were terrible last year. They’ll watch film, look at the stat sheet or roster and know what our game plan is. run, run and then run some more. I’m not saying Russell should throw 30+ passes against these teams, but you need a balanced attack or thier defenses will beat you into submission
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Exactly, against these teams, the offensive gameplans will need to be balanced.
Mix up the run with some reverses, some misdirection plays, screens, some posts, outs and deep double move go routes.
The offense needs to use those defenses aggressiveness against them by using mis direction quick wr and rb screens and even use Bush and DMC as passers.
May 28th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Will Wilfork Show Up For OTAs?
Posted by Mike Florio (PFT)
The question posed today by Mike Reiss of the Boston Globe already has been answered. The world outside of the Patriots’ organization simply doesn’t know what that answer is.
The Pats had Organized Team Activities on Tuesday and Wednesday. And the team hasn’t said whether defensive tackle Vince Wilfork, who is entering the final year of his contract, participated.
On Thursday at 11:00 a.m. EDT, the Pats will practice again — this time with the media present for at least a portion of the session. And so the media will soon know whether Wilfork is present.
Reiss points out that Wilfork posted a few updates to his Twitter page on Wednesday, at a time when the team otherwise was practicing. So unless Vince had a cell phone tucked where that guy in the remake of The Longest Yard kept his McDonald’s hamburgers, it’s a safe bet that Wilfork wasn’t there.
Wilfork separately has expressed frustration and patience this year regarding his contract status. Either way, there have been no talks.
Because Wilfork was drafted in 2004, he’ll be eligible for unrestricted free agency after the season, even if there’s no salary cap in 2010. Unlike players such as Shawne Merriman and Braylon Edwards, Wilfork will have six years of service after the 2009 season.
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Wilfork for Burgess?
May 28th, 2009 at 11:42 am
I guess I am concerned that Cable won’t pay attention to the momentum of the game. I could see a situation where Bush is having a good game and Cable inexplicably takes him out and claims some b.s like “change of pace” in the press conference.
As you all can probably tell, I am still nervous about Cable maintaining his biases for certain players on the roster.
DMAC and Bush were relegated to pure backups last year and the QB had to lobby Cable to get DMAC in the game more.
I can’t believe I am saying this…but I hope Al Davis offers suggestions on the playing time for running backs.
May 28th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Meeting ended early!
Wilfork for Burgess? I wish. Maybe NE thinks Ron Brace is a cheap, young replacement that can start now? Throw in a 4th round pick and maybe NE makes that deal?
I seriously doubt NE would take that risk. i think they will call Wilfork’s bluff, and he’ll play this coming season and that will give NE time to see if Brace has what it take and then NE will make the right choice…those dirty bastards!
May 28th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Raider O…
so 408 is here again(!?), the i assume my advise to how he changed his IP succeeded =)
May 28th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Hey RRS
May 28th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Dakota…
isnt it great that we get rid of some of those dangeruos 2 year olds??? I bet his 3 year old sister feels fine right now?
May 28th, 2009 at 11:47 am
dangeruos = dangerous
May 28th, 2009 at 11:48 am
ohh, I need to get some dinner..
see ya, have to go down to the italians..
May 28th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Good afternoon RR.
Hell yeah, I’ll trade Burgess for Wifork!
May 28th, 2009 at 11:54 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
May 28th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Dakota…
isnt it great that we get rid of some of those dangeruos 2 year olds??? I bet his 3 year old sister feels fine right now?
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Sorry LMN, I am lost….
May 28th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Later LMN, and enjoy your dinner.
Some Caprese Salad before dinner, mmmmm
May 28th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Dakota…
a 3 year old girl shot her 2 year old brother…. im sure the world is a safer place now…..
May 28th, 2009 at 11:57 am
raider O…
they just called me, and said it wasnt ready, so I dont have to stand and wait for it =)
May 28th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Some nice wine, Caprese Salad, and pasta. It’s doesn’t get any better!!!
May 28th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Captn Kirk speaks… (didnt see it posted)
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/AFC/AFC+West/Oakland/Features/2009/parr052709.htm
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Raiders MLB Morrison says ‘D’ can be dominant, Russell showing leadership
By Dan Parr
May 27, 2009
Ripples of hope have been sparse in Oakland over the past six seasons, while the Raiders bumbled their way to just 24 wins. The team has floundered through five different head coaches, a myriad of poor personnel decisions and many embarrassing moments during the span. Yet, for four of the six seasons, a steadying force at middle linebacker has given the club reason to think it has a block to build around on defense along with Pro Bowl CB Nnamdi Asomugha.
JaMarcus Russell, Kirk Morrison
QB JaMarcus Russell,
MLB Kirk Morrison
Kirk Morrison, a third-round pick in 2005, flies under the radar playing for a team that’s known more for losing and bizarre Al Davis press conferences, but he’s been remarkably consistent, making at least 116 tackles each season, and has started all but one game since entering the league.
Pro Football Weekly spoke with Morrison on May 19 after one of the Raiders’ OTAs (organized team activities). In a wide-ranging interview, Morrison talked about his development and the Raiders’ new defensive coordinator, John Marshall. He said the team continues to feed off the momentum from last season, when it finished with back-to-back wins for the first time since ’02, and he also responded to ex-Raider DeAngelo Hall’s recent criticism of the team.
PFW: Is there anything in particular you’re working on improving during OTAs?
Morrison: One thing you’re always improving is your situational play. We’re talking about red zone, goal line, third down, first and second down, four-minute defense vs. four-minute offense. I think that’s what you kind of focus on during the OTAs. As a middle linebacker, I’m excited because the game is more slowed down, going on Year Five, than it was in my first couple years.
You start to understand a lot more when you look at what an offense is trying to do to you, what they’re thinking, what the defensive coordinator is thinking. A lot of times guys play on instincts. Sometimes we make football out to be really, really difficult because it can be, but a lot of times it’s really simple. We just sometimes make it a lot harder than what it is.
PFW: Were you getting by on instincts as recently as last year? When did that shift happen for you?
Morrison: Over time, you just learn to get it. … There are guys like Ray Lewis. You talk to those guys and figure out what they know and what they see. It all comes from film study and just playing, knowing the situation of the game.
PFW: You mentioned learning from veterans like Ray Lewis, but you haven’t had a guy like that in Oakland. The Raiders have a pretty young group of linebackers. Whom do you look to as a mentor-like figure in Oakland?
Morrison: I’m the older guy on the team, and I just finished my fourth year. I’m one of the oldest linebackers on our team. What I’ve looked for, and learned the game from, are guys who have been around those (veteran) players, but also the defensive coordinator and linebackers coach. I’m with them every single day. I have a new defensive coordinator (Marshall) and linebackers coach (Mike Haluchack) this year. You’re learning new terminology; you’re learning about the game a lot more.
They see the game differently than the coaches I’ve had before. You take everything in that you learned before, and you just add it to the philosophy that your new coaches have. It just makes you that much better a football player.
PFW: How is John Marshall’s scheme or coaching style different from former D-coordinator Rob Ryan’s?
Morrison: A little bit different in the fact of terminology and what he believes in. Everyone has their things. If me and you go to a restaurant, your favorite restaurant and my favorite restaurant, you know what you like, and I know what I like. We both like the same restaurant, but we like different items on the menu. I think that’s what it is for those coaches. They know the game, but they just like different styles.
For right now, we’re just going over the basics and learning it. These OTAs help out teams such as ours that have a new defensive staff. We’re able to get a lot of the playbook in and a lot of the philosophy and terminology down, going into training camp.
PFW: Is there anything in specific Marshall is emphasizing?
Morrison: Just a mentality. He’s already trying to make the mentality that’s been around here in years past change as far as a losing habit. We haven’t won here in the past six years. He’s a coach that’s been around Super Bowl teams; he’s coached in Super Bowls. For me, I’m excited because he had a chance to coach a middle linebacker in Seattle the last couple years who’s a good friend of mine in Lofa Tatupu. Seeing the way Lofa went in that defense, I’m excited because I could step into the same opportunity and get to where Lofa is in his career as a three-time Pro Bowler. … I think what Marshall brings is experience and he’s a proven winner. He’s done it before. He’s been at the bottom before, and it’s not fun.
PFW: Is everybody on board with the new guy?
Morrison: Definitely. I think so. We understand what the NFL’s all about. We all loved Rob and we hated to see him go. But with as much turnover as the NFL has, you don’t see coaches stay with teams that long.
The changes have been good so far, and we’re just trying to improve every single day. We feel like we can be dominant. Now we just have to go out there and do it.
PFW: Tom Cable seemed to get you guys to click late last season after some struggles early on, which culminated in back-to-back wins to end the season. Has that momentum carried over into the offseason?
Morrison: I definitely feel it. The guys feel it. What we did in the last couple games is something that didn’t happen in my first four years — going on a winning streak at the end of the year, going into the offseason feeling like a winner.
It wasn’t like we felt like we were a bad football team at all last year. There were some games we should have won. We should have at least been a .500 ballclub last year. We let a couple games slip away and made some mistakes, and that’s one thing that he’s been trying to change the mentality of our team. He’s making sure that we understand that games are won and lost in the fourth quarter.
We have to win that fourth quarter and win more football games. You know why? Because we can. We have shown it and we did it in the last two games (of last season). That’s what everyone’s been excited about.
PFW: Looking around the AFC West, Jay Cutler has left the Broncos, the Chiefs are in rebuilding mode, and the Chargers aren’t as dominant as they used to be. Do you feel like this is the year you guys can make a leap in the division?
Morrison: If we go out and do what we’re capable of doing, which is running the football on offense, making some plays down the field in the passing game, and just playing dominant defense — stopping the run, getting the ball out to our secondary — we feel like we have one of the best secondaries in the NFL. When we play like that, we feel like we’re going to go out and win football games.
It’s not the same AFC West of past years when you knew there was a clear-cut team that was going to win the division. I think right now the division is kind of up in the air. On paper, everyone just doesn’t know. We’re eager to get out there and, I wouldn’t say ‘sneak up on people,’ but just … we’re going to be underdogs.
PFW: While there isn’t an official quarterback competition in Oakland yet, Jeff Garcia certainly is capable of taking over on offense if JaMarcus Russell takes a step backward. Who do you think is the best fit to run your offense right now? Is it Russell or Garcia?
Morrison: You have to think … JaMarcus has been here the last couple years. He was our starting quarterback last year. He’s fit to run this offense. He knows about it. He’s getting more and comfortable with it. … People don’t really understand that this is only JaMarcus’ second (year of going through) OTAs. His first year he had the (contract) holdout and he missed the OTAs and extra minicamps. He never really got a chance to experience it. Last year, he had it all happen for (the first time), going into kind of like a rookie season almost. This year he definitely understands it more. The OTAs give him a big boost in being able to do more. Last year it was kind of hard. There was a lot put on him, almost as a rookie.
You asked me earlier about having a guy in your locker room at your position who has been in the game for a while and been a winner before, played in big games. That’s what Jeff brings to our football team and to our quarterback position — a guy that JaMarcus can talk to, lean on.
It just so happens, if anything does happen to JaMarcus, which we definitely, definitely don’t want to happen, we’re able to have a guy in Jeff step in while JaMarcus is out, and we have total confidence that he can get the job done.
PFW: Jeff Garcia is a competitor, though. I know you’re aware of that. You have to think he’s not going to back down but try to come in and take the starting job if he can.
Morrison: Yeah, definitely. That’s the way his mentality is. But as of right now, we know what JaMarcus can do. He was our starting quarterback for the last two games of the season, and those are two games that we won. That’s what we go from right now. … Going into this season, I see JaMarcus as the starter. He proved to the guys on this football team that he can get it done. He made some big throws, but at the same time we know that Jeff is going to push him. You have to wait until training camp to see, but right now I just feel like JaMarcus was our starting quarterback from the end of the season and you kind of go from there.
PFW: Tom Cable was pretty vocal this offseason about wanting to see more leadership from JaMarcus. Have you seen any of that from JaMarcus yet?
Morrison: Yeah, definitely. He’s a specimen. He’s a commanding force. When he steps in the huddle, I know guys respect him. That leadership role is something that’s going to happen. It will happen. I know I’m in the same position at middle linebacker where you’re pretty much the leader on defense. The only way you lead is by being out there every day, being vocal, but also you have to make sure that you’re doing your job. That’s what a leader is.
PFW: I don’t think a second-round pick has caused more controversy, at least recently, than the Raiders’ choice of Mike Mitchell this year. What’s your impression of him
Morrison: He’s a hard-hitting safety. He can cover. He’s fast, strong. A lot of people say, ‘Well, we didn’t have him rated (that high).’ You’re saying that to the wrong guy here. I’m a third-round guy, but I feel like I’m a first-round talent in terms of my play on the field. I don’t look at the way people rate you. If you look at my draft class, I feel like I’m right up there with the guys who were drafted in the first round at my position. I told Mike that, too. I said, ‘Go out and play the game. Have fun. Don’t let all that other stuff distract you.’
PFW: Your former teammate, DeAngelo Hall, joined a growing group of ex-Raiders who have taken shots at Al Davis and the team after leaving. He said he was relieved to leave Oakland midway through last season. I know you haven’t seen his comments yet, but how do you respond to the criticisms of Davis and the organization?
Morrison: Not every situation is going to fit for people. With DeAngelo, it looked good on paper. He came here, people saw the talent and thought everything was great, but it just wasn’t a good fit for him.
Those kinds of things happen.
The cure for all the scrutiny, for all the down talk — all you have to do is start winning football games. If you start winning, all that stuff goes away real quick. That’s what we have to change.
In 2001, ’02, ’03, Oakland was the place to be. Everybody wanted to be in Oakland. The last couple of years, that kind of changed a little bit. We need to get back to where we were six, seven years ago.
PFW: Do you feel like the Raiders’ organization is dysfunctional, and do you get frustrated with the way things are done there?
Morrison: Every organization does things different. You have to understand that’s just the way it is. You have to go along with it.
You go out and do your job. You go out and go to work every day. That’s what I do. That’s something you can’t control. You can control how you play and how you are as a person and what you do extra to make sure you’re doing your best. No matter what you do, you got to make sure you take care of yourself first. All that other stuff, don’t let that affect you.
May 28th, 2009 at 11:59 am
rightnasty Says:
May 28th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Here’s the curious thing though. Bush refused to switch to FB which is fine, but when did the FB position become such a “step down” for running backs? There have been a lot of great fullbacks who did it all running, blocking, pass catching and were certainly every bit as part of the offense as the halfback. A fullback used right and not just as a blocker gives the offense an extra weapon.
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It’s a step down in terms of carries, money and prestige. Come on man, are you kidding? Do you think Bush is going to get a commercial deal being a bad lead-blocking FB v. a TD scoring HB? Bush would have been an idiot to let Al and co. force him into a position change.
May 28th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Burgess & Wilfork are both in the final year of their contracts. both are disgruntled. both teams drafted their eventual replacements (Shaughnessy, Brace). Pats need a pass rusher – missed out on Jason Taylor. Raiders need a run stuffer in the worst way!
May 28th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
I would give New England Burgess AND a 1st rounder for Wilfork…throw in a 2nd rounder too.
Wilfork would be a HUGE upgrade to what’s there now!
May 28th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
I love Mediterranean food!!
May 28th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Jezuz…where did that happen LMN?
May 28th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
What aboput D. Burgess for Ron Brace straight up?
May 28th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Raider O Says:
May 28th, 2009 at 10:40 am
4eva,
Saudi has lots of black and yellow Gold, and nut much water. Other Countries in the Midd East have plenty of water
Raider O,I was reading an article from the Economist about 4 years ago and they said this was the Saudi’s intention because their oil will run out some day.So with 5 desalt plants they will be able 2 irragate.And top-O-the morning 2 you bro!!!
May 28th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
What aboput D. Burgess for Ron Brace straight up?
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if the Raiders wanted Brace they would have drafted him at #40 last year instead of trading that pick to New England
May 28th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
I would give NE Burgess, Huff, Walter, and a 3RD pick!!
May 28th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Rockstar, just because Al had a hard-on for some unknow safety doesn’t mean the Raiders didn’t want Brace.
Fuk, now that you mention it…we’ll probably trade Burgess to NE for a CB or S.
May 28th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Dakota Says:
May 28th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
What aboput D. Burgess for Ron Brace straight up?
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Won’t happen. Belichek traded up, with the Raiders (sigh), to get Ron Brace. Brace is going to be a player for them and is the replacement for Wilfork when he asks for a ridiculous salary next year.
I still say Burgess and our 1st rounder or 2nd rounder for Wilfork. Then sign Wilfork long-term.
I would rather see the Raiders trade the 1st rounder anyway. I don’t really want to see Taylor Mays (yet another safety) drafted next year until the Raiders KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAVE ON THE ROSTER NOW!
May 28th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
unknown…mi kant spel todey.
May 28th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
#253,
Great post, I really enjoyed reading it.
Thank you.
May 28th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Who is there to police the spell check police? Lamer.
Nobody said Fargas was an elite back. The same way nobody said McFadden or Bush wouldn’t get Russell killed if they were required to pick up a blitz.
You need different players to be able to expose different weaknesses of the defense that is playing to stop your strengths. Every time you stop something you give up something. Put in Fargas and the defense doesn’t have to worry about him catching the ball but they know they won’t be as successful blitzing. Put in McFadden and they need to watch him more but know they will get to Russell faster. This year both McFadden and Bush should be better, next year they should be good enough that you shouldn’t fear for Russell’s life with them in there.
Straw man much Aunt Sally?
May 28th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
I would give New England Burgess AND a 1st rounder for Wilfork…throw in a 2nd rounder too.
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that would be robbery for a player that is basically going to the highest bidder (ala Haynesworth) next offseason. Get him now so you don’t get into a bidding war with other teams. D-Burg and possibly a 3rd or 4th rounder would work. it would be well worth it imo, but Warren is a Cable favorite and Davis hasn’t given up on Sands just yet
May 28th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
With the 5th dick in the 2010 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select Taylor Mays, safety, University of Southern California.
With the 37th pick in the 2010 NFL draft the Oakland Raiders select Trevard Lindley, cornerback, Kentucky.
May 28th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
What about Huff, Burgess, Williams, Yvonne, and the rights to James Lofton to NE for Wilfork.
May 28th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
4eva,
A lot of those Oil countries are looking for other ways to improve and build their economy.
Look at UAE, and what they have done!! Lately, they took a big hit. It’s a global economy now. I wasn’t impressed by Saudi’s vision for their economy.
May 28th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
jezus, I said 5th dick! lol
I give up…
see you guys next week…I’m going to the doctor to see if I’m having a stroke…
May 28th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
that would be robbery for a player that is basically going to the highest bidder (ala Haynesworth) next offseason. Get him now so you don’t get into a bidding war with other teams. D-Burg and possibly a 3rd or 4th rounder would work. it would be well worth it imo, but Warren is a Cable favorite and Davis hasn’t given up on Sands just yet
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Yeah, Warren has been beautified by Tom Cable and Sands is a scholarship athlete.
Actually, if you asked the coaches, they think the defense is just fine.
I would trade the first rounder. How many more top 10 picks can the Raiders afford? Plus, that pick will be used on Taylor Mays or Eric Berry. I would just as well get rid of it.
May 28th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Yep the time is now 2 invest in new or old tech’s,or be left behind
May 28th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
I would give NE Burgess, Huff, Walter, and a 3RD pick!!
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the Pats added Shawn Springs, Leigh Bodden, Brandon McGowan and Patrick Chung to their secondary this offseason. I doubt they’d want to inherit Huff and his bloated contract …
May 28th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Dakota, the “D” and the “P” keys are quite far apart…what would Freud say?
May 28th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
4eva,
This is the best time to buy property, and a lot of it.
Buy in your state, other states, Mexico, and especially in the Midd East.
Dakota,
I bought property in Jordan.
May 28th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
I know Bo…I am very bothered by that fact! Maybe it was because I was thinking about how Al Davis fuked up our draft and that makes him a dick?
Yeah, that’s it!
May 28th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Darius Heyward-Bey and Mike Mitchell better be in the starting lineup come September.
Heyward-Bey is a $25Million investment and they passed up on a lot of players that could have been day 1 starters in much needed positions for those two.
I only say this because the Raiders reached in the draft. Not saying the players aren’t good…just that they reached to get them.
I think it would be a massive disappointment to see those two as role players next year.
May 28th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
How many more top 10 picks can the Raiders afford? Plus, that pick will be used on Taylor Mays or Eric Berry.
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the Raiders would only consider another DB if Huff and Branch both flop. Eugene will be an unrestricted FA next year, as will Stanford Routt
May 28th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Raider O…the Black Hills were so expensive you were forced to buy land in Jordan?
I can see it now:
Come and listen to a story about a man named Raider O
A poor college student, barely kept his family fed,
Then one day he was shootin at some food,
And up through the ground came a bubblin’ crude.
Oil that is, black gold, Jordan tea.
Well the first thing you know ol’ Raider O’s a millionaire,
Kinfolk said O move away from there
Said South Dakota is the place you ought to be
So they loaded up the truck and moved to Black.
Hills, that is.
Tar pools, very few cars!
May 28th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
I think it would be a massive disappointment to see those two as role players next year.
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starters:
Schilens/Higgins or Schilens/Walker
Huff/Branch or Eugene/Branch
Agreed S&B. we can’t afford to redshirt these kids
May 28th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Rockstar,
I think its more…unless Branch/Huff/or Eugene light it up….they will pick Mays or Berry.
No way Al Davis passes on a 6′2 225lb defensive back that runs a 4.3 or better.
I used to think otherwise, but after this draft I think its crystal clear the draft strategy of Oakland.
May 28th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
OMG, Dakota has become fully untethered to reality. I blame the Cubs.
May 28th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
lol
May 28th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Rockstar,
I agree that Schilens is the best receiver on the roster, at least going into camp….but DHB really should be able to beat out Javon Walker…right?
Again, hate to beat this drum…but DHB was a top 10 pick. Walker is slow and washed up…but who knows…stranger things have happened. Although I think there will be some subtle pressure from upstairs to get DHB in the game early and often
May 28th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
I used to think otherwise, but after this draft I think its crystal clear the draft strategy of Oakland.
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the trend has been: BUILD THE OFFENSE
Russell, McFadden, Bush, DHB, Murphy, Higgins, Schilens, Miller, Henderson all in the last 3 years.
Barnes only signed a 1 year deal and Cornell is in the final year of his contract at 1.8 million …
If the OFFENSE train keeps rolling, we’re going to draft a tackle in Round 1 next year (or a kicker)
Janikowski is also in the final year of his contract at 1.5 million
yikes!
May 28th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Dakota,
LMAO!!!
Land was cheaper in Jordan!! They also use the metric system, so you get more land!!
Still LMFAO
May 28th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Jordan Tea!!!!
LMFAO
May 28th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Dakota,
Their Acre is a 1000 SM!!! For a lot less money than the Hiils. 10000 JD per Acre for some good farm land. That comes to about 15k in US dollars. Great deal bro!!
May 28th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Good for you O…but the commute is going to be a real biotch!
May 28th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Dakota,
That’s about 45-1 hour drive from the Capital Amman.
You can buy acres for $500 in some areas away from the main areas.
Now, in the city of Amman, some acres are worth a 1+ mil JD per acre. About 1.5 mil per acre!!
May 28th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
I thought the capital of Jordan was Lamont.
May 28th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Dakota,
I have family there. My wife is born and raised there, so she wants to visit yearly now.
She can go yearly, but I will go every few years.
I lived 8 years there, from the age of 8- 14. I also spent about 2 years there when I got married 5 years ago. One reason why I’m not done with my EDU.
I love to travel.
May 28th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
BSJ,
LMAO
May 28th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Dakota, and others,
A lot of people here in the US have the wrong ideas about that area.
If you are interested in visiting and learning more, I can help,
I have a place to stay there ( I own an apartment there), I know the area well, and honestly I would be more than happy to help.
You can enjoy the Mediterranean weather and food, and the old ruins.
May 28th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Dakota: are you skipping out on your cousin’s graduation?
May 28th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
O,
I would love to visit the ancient Roman ruins in Philadelphia.
May 28th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Rockstar…no, we are leaving at 5:30 tonight…the dog sitter isn’t available until then. We are going to Mitchell (home of the Corn Palace!) tonight and then the rest of the way to “Fargas” Falls tomorrow.
May 28th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Dakota,
Any time!! I mean it.
Philadelphia. lol
May 28th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
We are going to Mitchell (home of the Corn Palace!) tonight
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Why don’t you visit Sacramento (home of the Cornhole!) MR … ?
May 28th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Dakota,
By the way dude, you scare the crap out of me. lol
Due to a few posts from you now and before. I think you are either very educated, or you have a lot of interst in that area.
CIA agent!!!
May 28th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Dakota is a crack internet looker upper.
May 28th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
I do believe in waterboarding….
May 28th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
BSJ,
LMAO
Boy, you crazy!!
May 28th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
where did S&B run off to?
we were having a good discussion!
May 28th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
What kind of dogs Dakota ?
May 28th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
one lab-chocolate
May 28th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Daughter just woke up, going to go play.
Later Nation.
May 28th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
DHB really should be able to beat out Javon Walker…right?
Again, hate to beat this drum…but DHB was a top 10 pick. Walker is slow and washed up…but who knows…stranger things have happened.
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If anybody beats out Heyward-Bey to start opposite Chaz Schilens I think it’ll be Higgins or Murphy – not Walker.
Javon Walker has a total of 41 catches and 1 TD over the last 2 years combined …
May 28th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
have fun Raider O …
barbies or a tea party?
May 28th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
waterboard Walker is he sprays any more champagne.
waterboard Fargas if he shows up in any more rap videos that promote smoking weed.
waterboard Russell if he gains any more weight.
waterboard Cable if he keeps Cornell Green and Hiram Eugene in the starting lineup.
May 28th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Cable said DHB and Mitchell fill huge needs so if anyone beats them out, even this season, they are BUSTS imo!
May 28th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
R8,
Yard and tools, she loves it!!
I really have to go now, later guys.
May 28th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
I have an 8 month old black lab…Cant keep him out of the pool
May 28th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
r8rpaver
Mine loves the river…especially chasing the ducks!
May 28th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
time to go pack…see ya
May 28th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
later Dakota. enjoy the drive bro!
May 28th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
hey Jerry, how about a new fix?
May 28th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Just got back from Vegas. The good news? No sightings of Javon Walker spraying champagne.
Saw Paul Pierce and Tracy McGrady there.
May 28th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 28th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
I thought the capital of Jordan was Lamont.
____________________________________________________
no Lamont is their currency…
May 28th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
The Big Banana Says:
May 28th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Just got back from Vegas. The good news? No sightings of Javon Walker spraying champagne.
____________________________________________________
or lying in the streets after a beatdown
May 28th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
May 28th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 28th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
I thought the capital of Jordan was Lamont.
____________________________________________________
no Lamont is their currency…
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100 dummies = 1 Lamont
May 28th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
The Oakland Raiders’ Top Four Camp Battles
By Hollund Shaf
Heading into the 2009 NFL season, the Oakland Raiders have several interesting battles emerging before the start of training camp. How these four camp storylines play out will have a direct effect on the team’s fortunes.
4. Michael Huff vs. Mike Mitchell (Safety)
When the Raiders drafted Huff seventh overall in 2006, they thought that they added a playmaker in the consensus first team All-American safety who won the Jim Thorpe Award as the nation’s best defensive back.
Three lost seasons followed in which Huff accounted for only one interception and one sack for the Raiders, including numerous botched assignments that culminated in Huff’s eventual benching.
Enter Mike Mitchell, a ferocious hitting safety drafted in the second round of the 2009 draft. The Raiders envision Mitchell as a playmaker in the Jack Tatum, Ronnie Lott mold who has the chance to make an immediate impact.
Winner: Huff
Mitchell may be the future in Oakland who will see the field extensively in 2009, but Huff should enter the season as the starter and will be given a chance to finally find his niche in the NFL.
With Mitchell breathing down his neck, Huff needs to perform early in the season, or 2009 could be his swan song in Oakland.
3. Mario Henderson vs. Khalif Barnes (Left Tackle)
Henderson, a third-round pick in 2007 who had been deemed a project by former head coach Lane Kiffin, blossomed late in 2008 when given playing time.
As a starter, Henderson held the likes of Mario Williams and Gaines Adams off the stat sheet and quarterback JaMarcus Russell off the turf.
One of coach Tom Cable’s main objectives heading into this offseason was to sign offensive lineman Khalif Barnes, whom Cable thinks will fit in well with the zone blocking scheme that Oakland employs.
Barnes stated that he signed in Oakland to play left tackle and has had some success at the position during his four years in Jacksonville.
Winner: Henderson
Anyone who has followed the NFL at all knows that Al Davis has the final say in every aspect of the Oakland Raiders.
If the way Davis was gushing about Henderson’s play at the end of the season is any indication, Henderson will start the season at left tackle, with Barnes settling in on the right side of the line.
2. Justin Fargas vs. Darren McFadden vs. Michael Bush (Running Back)
Perhaps no one in the NFL plays with more guts than Justin Fargas, who has overcome injury to become a productive back in the NFL. Fargas blends a drive and ferocity that undoubtedly rubs off on his teammates.
Overcoming injury is something Michael Bush is familiar with as well.
A former star running back at Louisville, Bush suffered a severely broken leg in his senior season, causing his draft stock to fall from the first round down to the fourth, where Oakland seems to have landed a gem.
Considered the top talent in the 2008 NFL draft, Darren McFadden landed in Oakland as the fourth overall pick. With draft measurables that matched his lofty collegiate stats, McFadden is the playmaker Oakland sorely needs.
Winner: Bush
If Coach Cable can integrate all three backs into a cohesive, productive unit, Oakland will have a running game to be reckoned with, and as a result, the whole Raider offense wins.
Fargas is a great character guy who gives his all and McFadden has the jaw-dropping abilities, but Bush has the edge, being the most durable of the three.
1. JaMarcus Russell vs. Jeff Garcia
Drafted with the first overall pick in 2007, Russell has jaw-dropping abilities and all the measurables to develop into a franchise quarterback.
After a holdout sabotaged his rookie season, Russell was anointed the starter in 2008 and showed glimpses of what he could become with the right work ethic and determination.
Jeff Garcia is the antithesis of Russell. What Garcia lacks in talent, he more than makes up for with intangibles. The four-time Pro Bowler went undrafted in 1994 and has had to prove himself every step of the way.
Shortly after signing with Oakland as a mentor for Russell, Garcia made his intentions of challenging Russell for the job known.
Winner: Russell
Russell is the incumbent, and little will change. Garcia will provide the perfect motivation for Russell to succeed and develop into a franchise quarterback. Garcia provides a great option if Russell falters or is injured.
Among all this competition there is a common thread: The Oakland Raiders are collecting pieces of a successful franchise. Putting the pieces together and restoring the silver and black to prominence is the battle that lies ahead.
May 28th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
BSJ
“100 dummies = 1 Lamont”
Bwahahaha
May 28th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
NCAA statistics show that nine out of 10,000 high school seniors who play football will one day be drafted by a National Football League team. Raiders DE Derrick Gray wasn’t one of those nine players and he’s taken the hard road to make it in the NFL. That’s just fine with him.
Growing up in Silver Spring, Md., the spotlight was elusive for Gray. Most of the attention was grabbed by a talented wide receiver from nearby McDonogh High School named Darrius Heyward-Bey. “I didn’t know him before I got here but I used to follow him a lot,” said Gray. “He was a big name back home.”
Heyward-Bey went on to excel at the University of Maryland, and joined his fellow Silver Spring-native in Oakland after the Raiders selected him in the first round of the 2009 NFL Draft. Gray took a different route to Oakland, enrolling first at Texas Southern University – a Historically Black College roughly 1,500 miles from his hometown.
It wasn’t until his senior year when Gray began to catch the eyes of NFL scouts. He finished that season as a one of the leaders of the Tigers’ Maroon “Mean Streak” Defense and became one of the most disruptive pass rushers in college football. Gray finished the year tied for the league lead with an average of 2.2 tackles for a loss per game and he also contributed nine sacks, good enough to tie him for 10th best in the Football Championship Series (FCS) division.
Despite all he accomplished that year, Gray flew under the radar as the Tigers ended the season without a victory and he went undrafted. However, shortly after the draft, the Raiders provided him with an opportunity to continue his career as a rookie free agent.
The chance to play in the NFL was a dream come true for Gray, but it presented some real challenges for someone coming from a small football program like TSU. “The transition was huge,” said Gray. “The quality of players you’re going against is better. Seeing the new facilities and all the things they have to help you get better as a player was amazing. I wasn’t used to seeing all those types of things that help you prepare as a football player.”
After training camp, Gray was placed on the Raiders’ practice squad where he spent the entire 2008 season, but he’s determined to earn a spot on the active roster this season. With the help of Head Coach Tom Cable and new defensive coaches John Marshall and Dwaine Board, Gray is optimistic about his chances.
Gray says that Coach Cable is doing things differently this offseason than they were done last summer. “He’s forcing all the players to work harder and by doing that, he’s making us cling tighter to each other because we have to pull and motivate one another,” said Gray. “We have to keep pushing and pushing. It’s not easy to just get through the day. You have to really come in here locked in ready to work.”
The change is good for Gray, who hopes to make the 2009 team and help the Raiders return to their winning ways. “(It’s going to take) consistent hard work,” said Gray. “That’s all I’m going to do, just continue to work hard and be focused.”
If his hard work pays off, Gray will earn his spot and Raider fans can expect to see No. 92 in the middle of the action on game day.
By Drew Christensen (Raiders official website)
May 28th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
thats 2 funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 28th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
well, im heading in to city, to listen to some blues @ Mojo’s…
see ya guys, take care…
May 28th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
DE Derrick Gray says:
Coach Cable is doing things differently this offseason than they were done last summer. “He’s forcing all the players to work harder and by doing that, he’s making us cling tighter to each other because we have to pull and motivate one another,” said Gray. “We have to keep pushing and pushing. It’s not easy to just get through the day. You have to really come in here locked in ready to work.”
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awesome! thats what I like to hear …
May 28th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
take care LMN
May 28th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
later LMN !
May 28th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Running is the least of our problems. CNN-SI is braindead. The question is: Does Jamarcus have the brains to win football games? Rumor has it he can’t remember the plays. Anybody, any truth to this? I know Kenny Stabler said the game doesn’t come easy to him.
May 28th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Like I said B4 Jmac started instantly,no other Raider QB had 2 do that.Its a lot 2 digest but if he really tries I know he can do it.He must give it his all
May 28th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
First of all Kenny never said that, and rumors arfe just that rumors.
WOW! it’s really amazing how the negative always gets repeated about Russell. Now he the rumor is he can’t remember plays. What’s next he’s retarded?
You people need to quit. But it’s obvious you never will.
May 28th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
The article considers QB as well, so it seems JM brings Raidas down to #28…If he forgot Bush, then Raidas have to be moved a few spots with him included.
May 28th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
“Russell said the system is similar to the one he’s learned his first two years with the Raiders. “But it has different terminology,” added Russell, who seems excited about the adjustments made under Cable and new assistants Paul Hackett and Ted Tollner.”
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Stabler:”It came easy to me. I played in much simpler times. Once I learned the system and the great players around me, it was ‘go play’ and things came easy for me.”
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Stabler’s time was a time of stability. Russell’s time, is a time of chaos.
May 28th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Priesttj
Stabler Did say that. Why don’t you take a breath and consider before you berate someone as being ill-informed.
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/messages/chrono/15167220
May 28th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
KK bingo…We must have stability
May 28th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
I simply can’t believe you guy’s let Jerry legitimize crap like that stupid article as if it means anything at all.
You should be more responsible for you’re own opinions.
May 28th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
I heard the interview live and he never said it. He said he didn’t know if the game came easy to Russell. How in hell could Kenny say the game doesn’t come easy to someone else. That’s for Russell to say. And Kenny would never be soo presumptuous.
May 28th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 28th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
I simply can’t believe you guy’s let Jerry legitimize crap like that stupid article as if it means anything at all.
You should be more responsible for you’re own opinions.
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The only people responsible for your opinions are the Raider PR Dept.
May 28th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
You can log onto KNBR.com the Brooks and Fitz show and listen to it yourself. Instead of reading editorials.
May 28th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Priesttj
You’re lying as usual:
“He has all the tools,” Stabler said. “He’s big, strong, can move around and has a big arm. But from what I understand, the game doesn’t come easy to him.
“It came easy to me. I played in much simpler times. Once I learned the system and the great players around me, it was ‘go play’ and things came easy for me.
Things don’t come easy to JaMarcus.”
No, they don’t. But coach Tom Cable said Wednesday the Raiders’ revamped offense is indeed being simplified. Cable added that “a tremendous amount of new stuff” must be learned, including a heavier dose of down-the-field throws that cater to Russell’s bazooka arm.
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/messages/chrono/15167220
Why don’t you keep yourself informed, instead of worrying about what other people read?
May 28th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Priesttj, Trust me, nobody wants to see Jamarcus succeed more than us. He was out of shape coming into camp last season, and took awhile to look good (last 2 games). I pray he is ready to go, and has the desire to be a winner!
May 28th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Cultists never want their flock to read the newspaper.
May 28th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
You can read the paper and listen as well. What’s wrong with listening to Kenny himself instead of reading what someone else has to say about what he said?
And then form your own opinion.
May 28th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
You should form your own opinion and not allow someone else to do it for you.
May 28th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
I don’t need you to show me, I heard it LIVE.
May 28th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
KK why so angry? Just let them listen for themselves.
May 28th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Because, I don’t like Liars!
May 28th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Then listen for yourself.
May 28th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Repost
Priesttj
You’re lying as usual:
“He has all the tools,” Stabler said. “He’s big, strong, can move around and has a big arm. But from what I understand, the game doesn’t come easy to him.
“It came easy to me. I played in much simpler times. Once I learned the system and the great players around me, it was ‘go play’ and things came easy for me.
Things don’t come easy to JaMarcus.”
No, they don’t. But coach Tom Cable said Wednesday the Raiders’ revamped offense is indeed being simplified. Cable added that “a tremendous amount of new stuff” must be learned, including a heavier dose of down-the-field throws that cater to Russell’s bazooka arm.
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/messages/chrono/15167220
Why don’t you keep yourself informed, instead of worrying about what other people read?
May 28th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
The interview is on KNBR.com what are you afraid of?
May 28th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
The SLOB needs to step away from the Fur Coat section at Neiman Marcus and his local Krispy Kreme counter and start paying more attention in meetings. I hope that I’ll be eating my words come football season, but I doubt it. This guy was never worth the first overall pick. Million dollar arm…10 cent head. I guarantee we’ll be looking at another QB in 2 years
May 28th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
YOU CAN TYPE BUT YOU CAN’T READ
Read ALL of the article. The QB-RB combo was also judged based on WR’s and O-line play like the Colts C Saturday.
I think GB (#8) and SF (#20) were obviously overrated. The Titans got jobbed as far as being underrated as long as Vince Young doesn’t play.
The Raiders? I’d bump us up two spots and slide Denver and SF under us.
Hater? Get a clue. Your wet dreams aside, JR, DMAC and Bush have done NOTHING!
Russell? Threw fewer TDs than any other full-time starter. Inaccurate. Has no game-winning two-minute drive skills to speak of. Potential? Some bozo last post compared JR’s OTA performance to Matt Sanchez. Genius! JR is entering his 3rd year and Sanchez was at his first OTA ever and they were equal? That’s a good thing?
Fargas? A servicable back who should be a back-up but starts beca use nobody steps up.
DMAC? He’s been a brittle version of Nap Kuafmann so far. Causes four drives to die with 0 yard runs on first down and then busts a twenty yarder a nd the drunks go wild. Until he stays healthy and finds a role he’s just “potential”.
Bush? Remember when Timmy Smith broke Allen’s SB rushing record? Bush has yet to surpass that one hit wonder.
You geniuses realize that some guys on the list scored more TDs last yea r by them selves than JR, Fargas, DMAC and Bush combined?
June 1st, 2009 at 10:47 am
New Raider Board, check it out: http://www.pirateguy.net
June 2nd, 2009 at 7:03 am
All I read from you guys are the sounds from the adults from Charlie Brown cartoons! All I hear are put downs and people talkin about how everybody are haters and how stupid the articles are. If there so stupid, why do you foo’s read and post your comments n shi*t! It’s gets boring! Get the hell of the board and let the real football fans talk football!
Maybe that’s why PRIATEGUY created his own Raider board! By the way, nice Raider Juggernot Pirateguy!
As far as Bush is concern, I loved him when the Raiders drafted him! I knew right away this guy will be a good RB, I still think he can be four times as good as Tyrone Wheatly! I believe he’s going to be the anchor of this offense soon.
WIN, LOSE OR TIE, RAIDERS TILL I DIE!!!!!!!!!!!
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:31 am
Koshown Mereno? Are you kidding me? The national media is all about spitting out content without being doing any real detailed work. Raiders have 3 legit backs and a lazy fat-boy franchise quarterback. We should have been top 2 in the afc west behind the Chargers.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
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