OTA notebook
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009 at 1:12 pm in Oakland Raiders.
News and notes from Wednesday’s organized team actiivty session open to the media:
– Those who were panic-stricken over JaMarcus Russell’s uneven performances through the mandatory minicamp and first organized activity session open to the media can come in off the ledge.
Russell was better Wednesday. There were few, if any, of the real deep strikes coach Tom Cable said will be part of the offense this year in the limited amount of snaps where there was a lot of field to work with. However, the simple, fundamental throws Russell had struggled with earlier came much easier.
Russell continued to work the tight end position, hitting Tony Stewart with a slant on his opening 7-on-7 throw and then throwing short of rookie free agent Chris O’Neill.
He rallied with a throw to Stewart in the right flat and a dumpoff to Gary Russell, passes which Russell often missed in prevoius public practices.
During a red zone session, Russell threw a hot-read wobbler to Todd Watkins for a short completion, a dumpoff to Louis Rankin for a short gain (quickly diagnosed by linebacker Jon Alston), then was late on a pass to Stewart with Thomas Howard covering.
Justin Fargas gathered in a short pass with a one-handed grab to which Isaiah Ekejiuba reacted with astonishment, given Fargas’ below-average pass-catching skills.
– For what it’s worth, Cable said afterward Russell had upgraded his performance from 2-for-32 to 11-for-32 in the red zone from the last OTA to Wednesday’s session.
(I’ll be honest _ I’m not sure what that means. As poor as Russell was, he completed more than two passes last time. And he sure didn’t appear to have 11 touchdown passes Wednesday. Didn’t get a chance to ask Cable about it because I was involved in another interview at the beginning of the coach’s session. Eleven positive plays, perhaps? Or properly executed plays or reads? If I remember, I’ll try and clear that up next week).
“We’ve got tomorrow and then two more weeks so I hope we can make a good amount of progress as we get ready for camp,” Cable said.
– Among those players who did not attend the voluntary workout or were out because of injuries included backup quarterback Jeff Garcia, cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, defensive tackle Tommy Kelly, defensive tackle Gerard Warren (pectoral), defensive end Derrick Burgess, running back Darren McFadden, defensive end Jay Richardson, guard-tackle Mark Wilson, fullback Oren O’Neal (knee) and wide receivers Arman Shields (knee) and Javon Walker (knee).
Tight end Zach Miller, who had sports hernia surgery, was in uniform and on the field but did not participate in team sessions. He said he could be on the field next week.
Burgess does not attend voluntary sessions. Kelly and McFadden had other business to attend to, and Cable said he expects Kelly next week. Garcia practiced Tuesday, according to one team source.
Cable said he didn’t know when Asomugha would be here before camp.
“I don’t know that. I’m hoping he’ll be here the last two,” Cable said. “If not the last two, the last one.”
– Cornerback Chris Johnson, who did not attend the last OTA, was present and worked with the starters.
– Pass protection seemed to be an issue, with Russell spinning into a certain sack from rookie end Stryker Sulak and unloading another throw incomplete in the face of a Kirk Morrison blitz.
– With Garcia not around, Bruce Gradkowski got additional work and had a solid day after previously struggling with most passes which went beyond 15 yards.
Gradkowski had two of the day’s bigger gains on a deep out to Samie Parker and a perfect sideline pass to Marcel Reece. He also found Florida rookie Louis Murphy all alone behind Jason Horton _ except Murphy let the ball hit him in the stomach and drop to the ground.
“Yesterday I caught one the same way. Today, I guess I lost my focus on it,” Murphy said. “That’s what I’m here for.
– Gradkowski threw the day’s only interception, a deflection gathered in by rookie free agent Frantz Joseph.
– No depth chart changes evident from the previous minicamp, although there were some changes because of absences. The first team defensive line was Trevor Scott, Terdell Sands (for Warren), William Joseph (for Kelly) and Greyson Gunheim. Linebackers were Thomas Howard, Morrison and Alston.
Cornerbacks were Stanford Routt and Chris Johnson, with Hiram Eugene (free) and Tyvon Branch (strong).
– Mario Henderson continued to take first-team reps at left tackle, and often also worked with the second team as Khalif Barnes got less work.
– Satele, acquired from the Miami Dolphins in the offseason and expected to replace Jake Grove as the starting center, went through warmups and drills for the first time but did not particpate in team sessions.
“The training staff they have is unbelievable,” Satele said. “Like I said, they did everything and anything to get me out here early. So I’m out here. Which I’m not supposed to, but they got me ready, so I’m ready to practice.”
Satele is eager to prove he can be a zone blocking center after two years as a man blocker in Miami.
“It fits me. I can run and be athletic,” Satele said. “And the guys around me, like Robert (Gallery) and Cooper (Carlisle), they’re made for this system. They can run, and I’m just trying to catch up to them.”
– The Raiders continue to play it safe with Heyward-Bey and his “sore” right hamstring. He hasn’t been on the field in a team setting since the second day of the mandatory minicamp. However he was running patterns following practice at what he said was “95 percent.”
It has robbed the rookie of the chance to lay the groundwork of a pass-catch relationship with Russell, although Heyward-Bey believes he can make up for lost time.
“You want to be out there with the quarterback all the time,” Heyward-Bey said. “But you’ve got to understand, we’ve got two more weeks of OTAs, we got training camp, we got preseason, it’s a lot of time but you don’t want to be too relaxed. You would like to be out there with your quarterback.”
– Heyward-Bey said he is not aware of any negotiations going on for a contract, which isn’t unusual since the starting point for rookies is usually around July 4. Last year was the exception, as McFadden signed June 6.
– A strong day for strong side linebacker Jon Alston, who said he finished last season at 214 pounds and has bulked up as high as 235 and is now 232. Judging from the way Alston is defending the pass and moving on the field, he hasn’t lost any quickness.
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June 3rd, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Finally. Thanks, Jerry!
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Thanks, Jerry. About effin time.
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:18 pm
have you guys checked out the Raiders-twitter page yet? they got some nice quotes from the players and coaches out of the OTAs….
http://twitter.com/oakraiders
Darren McFadden: Just give me the ball and get out da way. Forget Russell, I’m our only hope.”
Jamarcus Russell: “Can I eat yet? Hey Javon, we cool for Vegas on Friday? I’ll bring the Kristal, you bring the kevlar”
Post-Practice, Coach Tom Cable: “We’re good, I mean all we have to do is push through that door. I think this is a great group of guys and I can’t wait for us to be called geniuses when Crabtree, I mean Devin Howard-May wins rookie of the year. Welcome to McDonalds, can I take your order?”
Post-Practice, Managing General Parter, Al Davis: Ken Stabler ain’t walkin through that door…and I know for a fact Jim Otto ain’t either.
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Great read Jerry, thank you sir.
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:20 pm
REPOST
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Lorenzo Neal: The Raiders are back. Commitment to dedication and excellence. Everybody follow the Raiders, we’re coming this year.”
Michael Bush: “We’re out here working hard, trying to get ready for the season and getting in shape. We’re looking forward to the season.”
Post-Practice, TE Zach Miller: “I started working my way back in, I feel good. Next week I’ll start doing everything.
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Post-Practice, XL Bo Schembechler Jackson: “It was a really good workout today at Jerry’s blog. No injuries, inspired commentary, and man the team speed is just amazing! Our unit is really starting to gel now that we got rid of a few underperformers.”
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:22 pm
THANK YOU SIR!!!!
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:23 pm
“The training staff they have is unbelievable,” Satele said. “Like I said, they did everything and anything to get me out here early. So I’m out here. Which I’m not supposed to, but they got me ready, so I’m ready to practice.”
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Translation: “Why the fuk is this dumb ass training staff forcing me to play before I’m ready?
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Frantz Baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
UH-OH!
Fargas made a ONE HANDED catch.
All hopes of McFadden/Bush starting at RB, are now gone.
effin, Fargas.
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
******Let me go, I don’t want go to Cuba!!! What do you mean I have family there!!!
LMAO at this your too funny bro!!!
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:28 pm
repost:
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:10 pm
OAKlifer: did Bobby just call you an internet wankster?
LOL @ post #1120 btw
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I think he did but his incoherrant rambling is getting worse and harder to under stand(is this spanish post of the day) now I think he’s lying about knowin Duder man this guy needs help!!! but very entertaining tho!!!
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Post-Practice, XL Bo Schembechler Jackson: “It was a really good workout today at Jerry’s blog. No injuries, inspired commentary, and man the team speed is just amazing! Our unit is really starting to gel now that we got rid of a few underperformers.”
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LOL this sheet is funny today every one great work I was busted laughing out loud three times at work today!! the loudest was this one
“incoherrant rambloing somethin”
and Dakota says “was that Spanish??” LOL good work today fellas!!!
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:33 pm
WOW sflifer really need some reinforcement today huh?? three in a row you are a loser!!! I’ll pay attention to you little man!!lol at you and your buddy wannabecocker!! Well Dude and I are headin out to paint the town I checked in with my source3 andI was right Burgess was there its just media cover up!! you sheep will belive anything!!!P!lls are kickin in gotsa run!!!
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Pass protection seemed to be an issue
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and thats without Burgess, Kelly, Warren, Richardson, Mitchell & Asomugha (aka the STARTERS) in the line up ???
yikes!
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:36 pm
OAK,
Dude, some of the things that happened to me after 9/11 ARE FUNNY!!
A few people ask me if I was named after Bin L..!!!!
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:36 pm
porko and dude are going to go paint in their panties?
thats what it sounds like to me … sick!
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Raider O: don’t worry bro. any other nation can do as it pleases, especially Cuba. Obama shut down the Guantanamo Bay detention camp. All those terrorists and criminals are free
if the troops captured Osama bin Laden and brought him to Obama, he’d probably shake his hand and say “let’s let bygones be bygones” promise not to do it again?
that spineless coward.
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:40 pm
RR,
They are free!!! Gotta call my uncle!
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Rockstar,
I wonder why in the world Tommy Kelly wasn’t there? Now that guy needs all the “reps” he can get.
So basically not one “starting” D-Lineman is at this OTA (Richardson, Burgess, Kelly, Warren (injury))…for the 31st ranked run defense….they need to be there..if for nothing else just to watch.
31st ranked run defense and not one starter from that D-Line at practice.
That should be a freekn headline of the day!
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Where is KK?
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Raider O:
If you think anything about 9/11 or shutting down the Guantanamo Bay detention camp is funny you have one sick sense of humor.
seriously.
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Well Dude and I are headin out to paint the town
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So THAT’S his job, house painting!
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:46 pm
SnB,
2 things to worry about are:
1- O Line
2- Run D
And so far….nothing, but it’s too early.
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:46 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Raider O: don’t worry bro. any other nation can do as it pleases, especially Cuba. Obama shut down the Guantanamo Bay detention camp. All those terrorists and criminals are free
if the troops captured Osama bin Laden and brought him to Obama, he’d probably shake his hand and say “let’s let bygones be bygones” promise not to do it again?
that spineless coward.
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Huh? You call him spineless for ending that disgrace? Who said they’d go free? They’re going to our SuperMax system, as they should.
Spineless is the Bush family sucking ass to the Saudis, where those hijackers and Osama are from. The Bush family works for OPEC, thus two useless wars to protect their oil.
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:46 pm
I wonder why in the world Tommy Kelly wasn’t there? Now that guy needs all the “reps” he can get.
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don’t just hold one guy accountable. McFadden, Asomugha & Garcia all missed today too and none of them are injured …
Warren & Richardson are present, just injured.
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
RR,
Yes, I’m sick!!!!
Are you serious?? It’s unhumane, and Sick!!
Wake up bro!!
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Well homies it has come time once again when I have to sign off!!! Man good work today fellas OTA’s man I’m feelin it pass the Kool-aid!!!! Double R, O, SnB, Dakota, Duder, and last but surley least Bobby. See ya guys tomarrow!!!!! RAIDER ON!!!!!!
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
Raider O: don’t worry bro. any other nation can do as it pleases, especially Cuba. Obama shut down the Guantanamo Bay detention camp. All those terrorists and criminals are free
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Come on RR, you are smarter than a Republican!! No one is going to be set free, besides the right don’t them here because then we’d have to prosecute & expose the whole admin for the scum they are. The truth shall rule out.
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Spineless cowards = chickenhawks Bush and Cheney
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Draft dodgers.
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:51 pm
That huge Oil pipe in Afgh.., and other interests in Raq!!!
Prison in a country that we don’t trade with!!!!!!
Wake up!!! Please!!!
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Execute all the prisoners at Guantanamo…problem solved.
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:52 pm
“Those who were panic-stricken over JaMarcus Russell’s uneven performances through the mandatory minicamp and first organized activity session open to the media can come in off the ledge.”
translation: Jerry thinks Victor Vicodin is suicidal over being banned again.
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
…or send the prisoners to Edgemont, South Dakota…that’s where a lot of the German POWs were held during WWII…and we could use the jobs around here!
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
translation: Jerry thinks Victor Vicodin is suicidal over being banned again.
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LOL-again
Wonder if he is really getting hate email from Bobbies doctor…hmmhmm I mean insider!
out fo reals!!!
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Rockstar,
“DT Gerard Warren still out with a pec injury, DEs Jay Richardson and Derrick Burgess also MIA”
Gerard Warren gets a free pass. He has been injured and a pec injury is tough to heal. But Richardson was MIA and so was Kelly and Burgess.
These guys are not good enough to miss OTAs. Like Russell, anyone that has been struggling needs to make the most of this time to get additional reps.
31st run defense. Everyone is accountable. Morrison and Howard are there. And Richardson???? He can’t be a secure spot.
As for Asomugha, he’s a proven veteran. and when you are arguably the best player in the NFL playing a position that’s about dominating your man….he can do whatever the hell he wants.
Tommy Kelly IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING THE ASOMUGHA OF HIS POSITION. Richardson is a marginal guy at best.
Too bad the backup DTs are useless. Hopefully Stryker, Shaughnessy and Scott take advantage of the opportunity
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Thoughts from the Hayes:
DHB’s hamstring is sore…as long as it’s not torn, he’ll catch 35+ balls his rookie season. He would have more, but he will be on a team with a lot of receiver options.
Murphy dropped a sure TD? Murphy’s the guy everybody KNEW could catch — unlike DHB, who is wrongly labeled as having bad hands.
DHB and Murphy will both be good pros. With Schilens and JLH ready to make names for themselves, our WR corps can become really special. Really.
Arman Shields? Arman might find himself out of a job soon — another year of IR might be his only chance to stay on the team. Probably not worth the risky investment anymore.
Frantz is going to win-over his teammates and the staff. Scholarships be damned, Frantz has a good shot at making the team.
A LB who actually LIKES to hit? What a concept.
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Later OAK, and have a great day!
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
“A strong day for strong side linebacker Jon Alston, who said he finished last season at 214 pounds and has bulked up as high as 235 and is now 232. Judging from the way Alston is defending the pass and moving on the field, he hasn’t lost any quickness.”
that’s what I’m talking about!
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
later OAKlifer!
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Dogg, did you supply Jon Alston with some HGH or something?
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Alston has been around Merriman all off season!!
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Dakota Says:
Execute all the prisoners at Guantanamo…problem solved.
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You mean abort tham in their 240th trimester?
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Seriously….how can Arman Shields still be out with a knee injury. He participated in training camp and has been on the shelf since September.
He had nothing else to do but rehab and get stronger. I am sorry….time to move on
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:04 pm
TW,
LMFAO
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:04 pm
31st run defense! And Al Davis and Tom Cable do Kelly, Burgess and Richardson favors by not drafting a 1st day talent at their positions.
At least Michael Huff was at camp. Because in my eyes, the performances of that D-Line have been equally as disappointing.
Huff must not be good at politicking
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Dakota Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Dogg, did you supply Jon Alston with some HGH or something?”
I have on an amino round right now, building muscle mass while retaining speed. Nothing that’s on the list of banned substances. You know I am on the up and up.
You’ve seen the work I’ve done with Odom leading up to game 5. He was eating egg white omelettes and chicken for breakfast. I put him on the Starburst Jelly Bean breakfast regimen. I am very pleased with the results.
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:04 pm
RaiderTW Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Dakota Says:
Execute all the prisoners at Guantanamo…problem solved.
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You mean abort tham in their 240th trimester?
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You bet!
http://blogs.sundaymercury.net/lorne-jackson/guillotine19.jpg
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:05 pm
As for Asomugha, he’s a proven veteran. and when you are arguably the best player in the NFL playing a position that’s about dominating your man….he can do whatever he wants.
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S&B: False. Asomugha is the leader of this defense. What kind of example is he setting? How is he going to tell guys like Burgess & Kelly to show up and learn John Marshall’s defense, when he doesn’t do it himself? When Mike Mitchell graduates and shows up for training camp he’ll be about as familiar with the new Defensive Coordinator and DB coach as Nnamdi …
How much do we have to pay Nnamdi to show up for voluntary workouts? He’s already making $15 million per season (highest paid defensive player in the league!)
You know it would also benefit the young WR’s to go up against top level competition. To see Schilens beat a guy like Routt has you saying “ok, good” to see him beat a guy like Asomugha would have you saying “wow. thats a huge improvement from last year!”
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Tommy Kelly and Jay Richardson not attending camp carries the arrogance that everyone would be screaming if Russell didn’t attend this OTA.
As for DMAC, he needs to put that time in as well. Come on guys….don’t just hand Fargas the job.
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:06 pm
SnB Defense ,
j.richardson got hurt last ota and watch from the sideline.that might be the reason he was not there.
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:06 pm
The French way, huh, Dakota?
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:07 pm
http://www.ebogjonson.com/mt-static/images/ICBINT.jpg
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Dogg,
LMAO,
Dakota,
You are a sick puppy!!
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:10 pm
The young receivers need to work harder on their route-running and playbooks than anything else right now. They don’t “need” to learn by being shut-down every play at a VOLUNTARY camp right now. They’ll have plenty of time to see Nnamdi in action — and maybe they’ll be better prepared for it when he gets here.
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:10 pm
At least Michael Huff was at camp. Because in my eyes, the performances of that D-Line have been equally as disappointing.
Huff must not be good at politicking
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say what you want about Huff, but he is a hard worker. He shows up for everything. good locker room guy. just keeps his mouth shut and does his job. not his fault Ryan/Davis put him at SS for 2 years and benched him after only 5 starts at FS …
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:11 pm
http://www.kumah.org/uploaded_images/HangMan-750932.jpg
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This would work also Dakota
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Time to go play with the little princess.
Have a great day Gents, later Nation.
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:13 pm
r8rpaver,
I tried accessing that link but is said forbidden! Must be a good one!
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:13 pm
guillotine is cheaper than a bullet …
WAY cheaper than an injection or the electric chair!
I’m ok with torture too if the crime fits the punishment
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Dogg,
Thanks for your work with Odom…stay on him for the next two weeks.
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Time to go play with the little princess.
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who names their wang “little princess” ???
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:15 pm
HayesDaze37: and whats your response to the first 2/3 of post #49 ?
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:17 pm
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/images/2008/07/26/public_hangings_iran.jpg
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Rockstar,
Point well taken on Asomugha. I don’t even understand why these typs of things are voluntary at all. The only reason there was a long offseason in the past was because the players back then had to take on other jobs in the offseason to suppliment their incomes.
Not the case today. I can see taking the time off between January and Apri (4 months for non-playoff teams) but these guys need to take a doggone half year off.
Its sort of like the summer off for school. It was originally established because kids had to have time off to help plant and harvest crops or work with the family business. Now its archaic since less than 5% of the population works in agriculture.
Those OTAs should be mandatory….Good grief, they only last a couple of hours and only last 3days a week….
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:17 pm
The other one was $adam
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Well, I gotta go play with HUMONGUS!lol
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:18 pm
LOL @ TW …
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Kelly, according to coach Tom Cable has “personal issues.” McFadden’s “got some responsibilities that he committed to before.
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:19 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:10 pm
They don’t “need” to learn by being shut-down every play at a VOLUNTARY camp right now. They’ll have plenty of time to see Nnamdi in action — and maybe they’ll be better prepared for it when he gets here.
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Nice….
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:20 pm
RR-you love Huff because”he is a hard worker.he shows up for everything.good locker room guy.just keeps his mouth shut and does his job”.yet you hate and can’t wait to get rid of Fargas who has produced and helped the team,which Huff hasn’t.why the double standard?
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:21 pm
r8rpaver,
I’m sure they had it coming. Were those toilet paper ropes?
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:21 pm
“The Raiders are back. Commitment to dedication and excellence. Everybody follow thw Raiders, we’re coming this year.”—Lorenzo Neal.
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Wow, it sure didn’t take long for Al to get Lo Neal hooked on the silver & black Kool-Aid.
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Those OTAs should be mandatory….Good grief, they only last a couple of hours and only last 3days a week….
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exactly my point. plus they are non-contact!
It’s not like Nnamdi has to worry about getting trucked by Neal or Bush …
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Dakota Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Dogg,
Thanks for your work with Odom…stay on him for the next two weeks.”
It’s really up to him at this point. The good thing is that he saw positive results almost immediately, which should inspire him to stick with the program.
Now if he would just quit asking me to give him a prescription for medical marijuana we would be on to something.
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
blackdeath29 Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:19 pm
…McFadden’s “got some responsibilities that he committed to before.
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Don’t tell me he was the donor for Octomom!
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:26 pm
S&B-don’t forget,these guys have to stay in shape and work out year round in todays game.in the old days offseason camps and training camps were used to get in shape.if you don’t stay in shape now you’ll be gone before you know it.Cable has said these otas were for learning more than anything else.who has more to learn than the new,young guys.
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:29 pm
drunk-out l8er NATION
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
RR-you love Huff because”he is a hard worker.he shows up for everything.good locker room guy.just keeps his mouth shut and does his job”.yet you hate and can’t wait to get rid of Fargas who has produced and helped the team,which Huff hasn’t.why the double standard?
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good question Lefty. Branch & Mitchell are still unproven at this point. I suppose one could argue that McFadden & Bush are too, but I think we’ve seen potential. Huff was out of position for 2 years and had a horrible DC for 3 years. I just want to see what he can do. that’s all. He’s not on a Rockstar scholarship. I think he’s better than Hiram Eugene and we’ve made a HUGE investment in him. The kid should be playing centerfield and helping cover WR’s and TE’s. not down in the box. not interchangable safeties. He’s a cover DB – not a hammer like Mitchell. so why not use him that way?
I don’t hate Fargas. I just don’t want him starting. I think McFadden/Bush/Fargas (in that order) gives us the best chance to score points and win games. It’s not like Fargas played FB the last 2 years under Tom Walsh’s system. He played in the zbs ran by Greg Knapp. Even Jordan, Rhodes & Echemandu excelled in this system when given the chance!
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Lefty,
Everyone might do that…except our QB.
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Freddie B’s tourney:
http://bit.ly/evl3s
Doesn’t Stabler look like one of the bar flys, down at the local dive?
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Look at Denver’s fat drunk QB!
http://www.jackbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/kyle-orton-drunk-pictures.jpg
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Late eva
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Lefty,
Working out is what it is. But look at baseball. Not as taxing physically…but those guys play until October….then have to be back in training camp in February….maybe 3.5 months off all year….football players get January to June off…with one mandatory 3 day no contact mini-camp thrown in.
Good work if you can get it
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Orton is clearly chasing those titties. Best footwork of his career, very fundamentally sound.
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:36 pm
RR-fair enough.however,i have read more than once that Huff doesn’t have the speed to play cover corner.as far as the RBs go,i agree,especially about the part that Bush and Mac are unproven.plus Mac has to prove he can stay healthy so he can get the 25-30 touches everyone wants to see him get-including Cable.
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Orton clearly bit on the fake titties…but if they are in your face you gotta play with them even if they are plastic right Dogg?
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Without contact, I really don’t it’s that important for Kelly/Warren to be there. Imo.
This kind of stuff would seem to be more important to the passing game. Timing, feel, chemistry.
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
crap! try this one:
http://www.raiders.com/Common/Article.aspx?=64160
pics & vid from the Freddie B. tourney.
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:39 pm
lmao
bit on the fake
She is clearly lined up in the Nipple Defense
Ok that was bad.
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:40 pm
S&B,you know as well as i do that you can’t compare the work football players have to do compared to baseball players.baseball players will tell you they don’t touch a bat or ball for a few months.football players must run and lift all offseason.big difference.
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Dogg,
She is clearly running the gold-digger offense, with a little dirty sanchez option offense thrown in for good measure.
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:44 pm
guys let`s not forget this is june.some people have brothers ,sisters and other family members graduating this time of year.i myself have a 2 son`s graduating this week and next one from high school one from 8 grade.
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:44 pm
lmfao
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:46 pm
i have read more than once that Huff doesn’t have the speed to play cover corner.
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Cable said they hadn’t even thought about using Huff as a corner. Jerry Mac is the one who said Huff wasn’t fast enough. His 40 time was 4.34 …
isn’t that considered “Raider speed” ?
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:48 pm
i myself have a 2 son`s graduating this week
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congrats bd29!
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:49 pm
I thought Huff couldn’t play CB because his hips are way to stiff to make the corrections necessary to cover WRs one on one…can’t change direction fast enough.
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:52 pm
I thought Huff couldn’t play CB because his hips are way to stiff to make the corrections necessary to cover WRs one on one…can’t change direction fast enough
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never heard that before, but you might be right. maybe that is why Jerry Mac says “he’s always a step late”
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Jerry isn’t the only one who has said it.i have read many times from different writers that the Raiders don’t believe Huff has the skills to play cover corner.this isn’t coming from me,but from writers who cover the team.besides,being fast doesn’t necessarily mean one is quick.
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
well, I wasn’t trying to argue that Huff should start over CJ anyways. I don’t care if he’s at CB or FS …
I just said he’s better than Eugene and he deserves another shot. thats all. if you don’t agree – fine
just my opinion
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:57 pm
At least stabler didn’t look like this
http://www.drinkatwork.com/barfly.jpg
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Or else the only thing you’ll pick up is this
http://shinymedia.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/18/beth_ditto_at_barfly.jpg
June 3rd, 2009 at 3:00 pm
i’m outta here. you guys have a great night
June 3rd, 2009 at 3:00 pm
i’m gonna go play with Dumbo
June 3rd, 2009 at 3:01 pm
TW,
Was that the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man’s wife, or lovechild maybe?
June 3rd, 2009 at 3:01 pm
#102, yikes!
June 3rd, 2009 at 3:05 pm
TW…..#102…
Yikes!
June 3rd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
No amount of alcohol…..
June 3rd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
RR, watch out for the sneeze…
June 3rd, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Dakota, do you believe they’re making another Ghostbuster? She could be in the MOVIES!!!!
June 3rd, 2009 at 3:16 pm
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June 3rd, 2009 at 3:21 pm
R8,
64 Great post!! Would you like to see something like that, but with American Soldiers instead. I’m sure I can find some. Dude!!! You are better than that!
June 3rd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
RR,
Is that all you think about??? Wangs!!! You really need to grow up!!
Later!!
June 3rd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
What happened to Bo the Big Douche? He’s one of my favorite new characters on here – don’t worry Krappy, you’ll always be #1.
We really were missing the mindless drooling oaf, and now we’ve got one!
Think about it folks – what blogger has ever been ragged on by ol Krappy and actually lost? If I had suffered that kind of embarrassment I’d sell all my belongings and move to Riverside.
That way no one would ever find me.
June 3rd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?&entry_id=41123
** Very little deep passing, but the receivers often ran long routes to draw away a cornerback and safety to create space underneath — a snapshot of what the passing game will be like next season.
That’s another way of saying the tight ends and running backs will probably catch more balls underneath than the receivers for a second straight year. There will be more opportunity for deep strikes, but they’ll pick and choose their shots.
June 3rd, 2009 at 3:48 pm
I can see Mac & Bush attacking those zones catching passes out of the backfield.
Safeties come up, and and get burned deep.
June 3rd, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Defensive tackle Gerard Warren, offensive lineman Paul McQuistan, wide receiver Javon Walker, defensive end Jay Richardson, wide receiver Arman Shields, and fullback Oren O’Neal missed practice because of previous injuries.
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:05 pm
“Our decision’s made,” Cable said. “JaMarcus is our quarterback. There’s no issue there, there’s no decisions needed to be made there. What we have to do is get to camp and have that compeittion you’re talking about. This is a learning time. The competition will really get rolling when we get to Napa.”
thank you tom cable
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:10 pm
KoolKell,
DMAC/Bush and Miller in single coverage can be exploited all game long. All game long…
Also will help keep defenses from too many blitzes as well.
Schilens and DHB outside will force defenses to gamble. If you don’t bring in safety help…this kind of thing can happen:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80bfbbd6/Chaz-Schilens-Highlight-WK-08-vs-Ravens-2008
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:14 pm
bydavidwhite “passing game looks like this: wr goes deep, qb dumps underneath to te or rb. Every time”…bed & breakfast baby, all season long!
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Curious SnB, you make all these claims about DMAC/Bush and Miller “exploiting defenses all game long”. Is this just wishfull thinking? Cause unless I am crazy im pretty sure they all played last year and I dont recall a single defense that got “exploited all game long.”
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
los raiders de don rober Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:14 pm
bydavidwhite “passing game looks like this: wr goes deep, qb dumps underneath to te or rb. Every time”…bed & breakfast baby, all season long!
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Nope…the bed & breakfast rarely threw to the running backs. Very rarely. In the Bed & Breakfast the only passes were to those deep receivers…take 7 step drops and just wait for that deep receiver.
Under this system, take the deep shot if you’ve got one-on-one coverage…otherwise checkdown to the RBs.
Not the same
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
SnB,
Why do you pretend to know ANYTHING about this offense?? You havent been at practice and they havent played a game. You dont have a clue what your talking about.
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Dude Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Curious SnB, you make all these claims about DMAC/Bush and Miller “exploiting defenses all game long”. Is this just wishfull thinking? Cause unless I am crazy im pretty sure they all played last year and I dont recall a single defense that got “exploited all game long.”
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Look, I admit there is a little bit of kool-aid flavor…but there is also some good hearty meat to this too.
Last year, the Raiders had Lelie, Curry and a 60% Javon Walker as the guys on the edge. No deep threats at all there. Tom Cable’s “decision making” kept DMAC/Bush off the field for most of the year….
Bush caught some 7 balls against San Diego last year. DMAC…they just were clueless on how to exploit him last year. This year I “think/hope” there is more emphasis on getting DMAC in space. Think Bryant Westbrook
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Dude,
The Raiders also will use more two tight end sets with a single back in the backfield. You could envision sending the edge receivers deep and having Miller, now freed from having to stay in and block and DMAC coming out of the backfield.
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Dude,
But for you the season is already pre-determined. So what’s the point then. For you to watch would be a waste of time seeing how you don’t believe this team is capable of doing much this year.
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:33 pm
BIG TIME kool-aid flavor. Teams are not going to give a rats arse about the recievers and DMAC is going to get the extra attention. You are WAY, WAAAAAAY overating this recieving core. You seem like a halfway smart cat, but bro, the way you yodel on about this offense and its playmaking prowess makes me wonder. Miller is the only guy who is anything more than an average player right now.
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:34 pm
That doesnt answer the question. How do you pretend to know anything about the 2009 Raider offense??
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:39 pm
SnB #120
That pass is one he supposedly has trouble with. But he dropped that one in there perfectly.
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Dude ,
i hope your right and defense`s don`t care about dmac,bush,schilens and jlh because they are going to pay for it.
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:56 pm
The Raider offense is going to be scorching defenses this season. Jamarcus is going be on fire and smoking some poles out there.
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Finally, it looks like the Ochocinco for Bush trade has finally gone down, just like I have been reporting!!!
Matt Aug – AHN Sports Editor
Los Angeles, CA (AHN) – Former Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Chad Ochocinco expects a better season for himself in 2009. A season in which he will start with a new outlook and a new team, pending league approval of a trade that will send Oakland Raiders’ running back Michael Bush to Cincinnati.
He is currently working hard in L.A. practicing running routes and getting into top physical shape before joining the Oakland Raiders in late June for mandatory minicamp.
Humility has not always been a trait one would pair with the receiver formerly known as Chad Johnson, yet it is precisely what he considers himself.
“Last year was very humbling for me; it was an embarrassment,” Ochocinco told the NFL Network. “It’s not just for myself, but for the city of Oakland and the team. So before I go, I want to be in just unbelievable form before I even touch the green grass.”
The Bengals were unbelievable in a bad way last season and are looking to improve by dumping the often disgruntled receiver.
Ochocinco also had a flat campaign, nabbing just 53 passes for 540 yards.
Although Ochocinco missed three games last season, he caught 40 fewer passes for 900 fewer yards than 2007.
With five straight seasons of 87-plus catches before 2008, Ocho deserves the benefit of the doubt that he can turn things around.
But another poor season, and people will wonder if Ochocinco’s number is up. Ochocinco responded to the trade in his usual humble manner when he said, “I hope Mr. Davis lives another twenty years because I’m going to be sitting right next to him and Jim Otto in that luxury box after my hall of fame induction.”
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Can you provide a link, phony?
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Kell: http://www.yourmomma.com
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Chuckie, giving his two cents on Russell and Garcia:
http://raiderbeat.com/?p=2587
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:27 pm
He is currently working hard in L.A. practicing running routes and getting into top physical shape before joining the Oakland Raiders in late June for mandatory minicamp
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We don’t have any “Mandatory minicamps” this month. Do we?
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Somebody was taking some poetic license:
USA TODAY:
Chad Ochocinco: Last year was ‘humbling … an embarrassment’
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Chad Ochocinco has emerged from isolation and wants to make amends for a bad 2008 campaign, his worst output since his rookie year in 2001.
The receiver hasn’t participated in the Bengals’ offseason workouts, but told the NFL Network he’s ready to join the team for its mandatory minicamp June 18.
“Last year was very humbling for me,” Ochocinco told the NFLN. “It was an embarrassment not just for myself but the rest of the team. Before I go back I want to be in just unbelievable form before I touch the green grass.”
Ochocinco, a Pro Bowler fro 2003-2007, caught 53 passes for 540 yards and four TDs last season.
“I have to go back to square one,” Ochocinco said to the NFLN. “From 1997-99, I was hungry. Since then it got a little too easy for me. I wouldn’t say I stopped working hard but that hunger wasn’t like it used to be. Right now it’s back. It’s back 10 times worse than what it was before I got to the league.”
Bengals coach Marvin Lewis told reporters Tuesday that he spoke with Ochocinco recently. “I think the biggest thing, I told Chad this the other day is that a lot of the new things that we’re doing he’s going to have to play catch up on,” Lewis said. “When he gets here Chad learns football very quickly and he’ll get out here and get his feet on the ground.”
Ochocinco got a vote of confidence from Bengals QB Carson Palmer last week. He qualified earlier comments that offered lukewarm (at best) support for the receiver by saying the Bengals want and need Ochocinco back.
Ochocinco said he has been at the OTA practices “in spirit” and said he’ll be at the team’s minicamp. “Of course, why not go and show off the product?” he said.
“Why not leave my coaches mouths wide open?”
Hat tip: Cincinnati Enquirer
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Goodnight everyone, I don’t know about you, but I can’t wait to see Russel and Ochocinco tearing it up and smoking poles this season!
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:40 pm
I’m Alive. Thats all I can say.
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Hey! A little optimisim in here for once from Jerry and the mutts in here!
Can’t believe it….
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:49 pm
FYI
DMunoz 26 is a troll
DMunoz26 is the real deal.
He screwed himself trying to register someone else’s name.
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
DMunoz 26 is the real deal.
DMunoz26 is dead.
June 3rd, 2009 at 6:01 pm
I see the real one in here time to time.
June 3rd, 2009 at 6:02 pm
New post Kell!
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