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TSN rankings: Marshall over Ryan

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, June 6th, 2009 at 3:19 pm in Oakland Raiders.

It remains to be seen whether the Raiders will play better defense under John Marshall than they did under Rob Ryan, but according to a top 20 ranking by the Sporting News, the Raiders have upgraded in that area.

RealScouts, a group of former NFL scouts utilized by TSN, ranks Marshall No. 12 in its top 20 defensive coordinators. Ryan, who departed the Raiders after his contract expried and was hired in Cleveland by Eric Mangini, was ranked No. 20.

Marshall is the third-ranked defensive coordinator in the AFC West, trailing Denver’s Mike Nolan (huh?) at No. 7 and Clancy Pendergast of Kansas City at No. 12, and ahead of San Diego’s Ron Rivera at No. 14.

Meanwhile, RealScouts ranked former Raiders offensive coordinator Greg Knapp of Seattle (No. 14) ahead of current passing game coordinator Ted Tollner (No 19).

In ranking NFL head coaches 1 through 32, Tom Cable was rated No. 30, ahead of only Tampa Bay’s Raheem Morris and Denver’s Josh McDaniels.

Other RealScouts top-ranked players and where Raiders and AFC West players are ranked in the top 20 (centers and fullbacks were ranked through 10; return specialists through 15):

Quarterback– Peyton Manning, Indianapolis. JaMarcus Russell is not ranked. San Diego quarterback Philip Rivers is No. 6 and Kansas City’s Matt Cassel is No. 20.

Running backs–Adrian Peterson, Minnesota. Darren McFadden is ranked No. 12. San Diego running back LaDainian Tomlinson is ranked No. 8.

Wide receivers– Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona. No Raiders receivers are ranked. Denver wide receiver Brandon Marshall is No. 17.

Tight ends– Jason Witten, Dallas. Raiders tight end Zach Miller is ranked No. 12. San Diego tight end Antonio Gates is ranked No. 5.

Fullbacks– Greg Jones, Jacksonville. No Raiders fullbacks are ranked in the top 10 (voting tabulated before Lorenzo Neal signed as a free agent). Denver fullback Peyton Hillis is ranked No. 10.

Guards– Steve Hutchinson, Minnesota. Raiders left guard Robert Gallery is ranked No. 12. Chiefs guard Brian Waters is No. 3, Chargers Kris Dielman is No. 5.

Tackles– Ryan Clady, Denver. No Raiders tackles are ranked. San Diego’s Marcus McNeil is No. 18.

Centers– Nick Mangold, New York Jets. Raiders center Samson Satele is not ranked in the top 10 (nor is former center Jake Grove). Chargers center Nick Hardwick is No. 2.

Defensive ends– Jared Allen, Minnesota. No Raiders or AFC West defensive ends are ranked.

Defensive tackles– Albert Haynesworth, Washington. No Raiders defensive tackles are ranked. San Diego tackles Luis Castillo (a 3-4 end) and Jamal Williams are ranked Nos. 9 and 12.

Outside linebackers– DeMarcus Ware, Dallas. No Raiders outside linebackers were ranked. Most picks were outside pass rushers in a 3-4 defense. San Diego’s Shawne Merriman was ranked No. 3 and Shaun Phillips No. 14.

Inside linebackers– Brian Urlacher, Chicago. Raiders middle linebacker Kirk Morrison is ranked No. 10.

Cornerbacks– Nnamdi Asomugha, Raiders. Chris Johnson is not ranked. Denver’s Champ Bailey is ranked No. 3. San Diego’s Antonio Cromartie is No. 7. DeAngelo Hall, a Raider for eight games last season, is somehow ranked No. 8.

Safeties– Ed Reed Baltimore. No Raiders safeties are ranked. Denver’s Brian Dawkins is ranked No. 7.

Place kickers– Stephen Gostkowski, New England. Raiders kicker Sebastian Janikowski is not ranked in the top 10, nor are any AFC West place kickers.

Punters– Shane Lechler, Raiders. San Diego punter Mike Scifres is No. 4 and Kansas City’s Dustin Colquitt No. 7 in the top 10.

Return specialist–Reggie Bush, New Orleans. Raiders punt returner Johnnie Lee Higgins was ranked No. 15.

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  • hwnrdr

    Courtney Lee for MVP!

    That’s bad… LOL hey, he’s a rookie and Van Gundy put all the pressure on him…he should take that as a learning curve. But hey, had he made that shot…

  • 4evaRaider

    Hey Dakota,since there is like 20 people in the Dakotas,do you know that kid Wanless who won 200 mill???

  • NoMoreFargas

    CourtneyLee 2009=NickAnderson1994

    GO LAKERS!!!!

  • NoMoreFargas

    Odom,Fisher,Ariza,Gasol all stepped up how many balls did Gasol poke loose, guy arms are like 12 feet long

  • hwnrdr

    That is true NMF. Kobe had what…6 points in the half? The whole team has to keep it going and not rely on Kobe to hit 40 every game to win it…
    On that note…Have a good day Nation!!!

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    4eva,

    I don’t know him.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    The series isn’t over until the Lakers win a game in Orlando…hopefully that will be game 3!

  • http://snotmerch.com/ Lynn from Snot
  • NoMoreFargas

    I look for a monster game from Gasol other than Howard no one on magic can contain him 1on1.

  • r8rpaver
  • AZ Raider

    The dumbest post ever….. lame.

  • r8rpaver

    lol im to slowwwww joe

  • http://cosmicdanceband.com Silver-n-Black666

    Post #111

    I agree 100%

  • http://cosmicdanceband.com Silver-n-Black666

    Thanks Lynn

    Nice read on Jamarcus it doesn’t matter what happens to him off the field, this is his year to produce or be considered a bust. Period! No excuses I don’t care who died.

  • http://atm Raider O

    Good morning Nation.

    Here is a promo code for 25% off anything at NFLshop.com: NFLWIN25. Enjoy!

  • r8rpaver

    what up o ?

  • http://atm Raider O

    R8,

    I bought a JR’s jersey, the only reason I bought was the special offer. Use the promo code, it helps a lot.

  • r8rpaver

    dude i can buy them on the cat walk going back to BART after the game for real cheap

  • http://atm Raider O

    R8,

    I had to wear a charger jersey to find my size, I still feel dirty!!

  • Nnamdi21

    F*k Denver

    F*k SD

    F*k KC

    F*k the Government

    F*k breakfast

    F*k the Joans bruthers

    and F*k U 2 Passion! Bish!

    Ahh…

    Good morning Raider nation!~

  • http://atm Raider O

    R8,

    I hate the Dischargers!!!

  • http://atm Raider O

    Nnamdi,

    Good morning!!

  • r8rpaver

    O that calls for an acid bath in my book

  • r8rpaver

    WOW feel better 21….next time dont hold back

  • http://atm Raider O

    R8,

    Cat walk!! BART!! What is that?

  • http://atm Raider O

    R8,

    LMAO,

    The colors made me sick too, powder blue and yellow!!!

  • r8rpaver

    The cat walk is a bridge over the oakland river and the train tracks….BART is like the subway train that goes all over bay area..Bay Area Rapid Transit= BART

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    What’s new? So Russell was gone due to his uncle’s death and not his mom’s knee? Well, that sounds better.

  • r8rpaver

    And the Oakland river isnt like any river you have ever seen….I think it is a fire danger if you know what i mean

  • http://atm Raider O

    R8,

    I didn’t know you lived in Oakland! I have a problem finding Raiders stuff in SD now!! since their team has been winning, they don’t have to wear Raiders gear anymore!!! You know!!

  • http://atm Raider O

    R8,

    so you can’t fish there! LMAO

  • http://atm Raider O

    River, fire hazard!! LMFAO

  • r8rpaver

    O i Dont live in Oakland But after the games are over there are guys selling thing outside the stadium…I like to support the local small business men…You could get that same jersey for 50-60 bucks

  • r8rpaver

    You might have better luck catching a dead body then a fish…

  • http://atm Raider O

    50- $60!! For a replica, correct?

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    I rode the BART way back in 1991 or so…went to an A’s-O’s game. Was staying with an aunt and uncle in SF for a few weeks. It seemed clean and safe…have things changed?

  • http://atm Raider O

    That’s how much I paid after the discount, $60. Like I said, I would have not bought, if it wasn’t for that discount.

  • http://atm Raider O

    Dakota,

    18 years!! :)

    A lot of changes can happen in 2 decades.

  • r8rpaver

    Dakota: Bart is clean and safe still…Same of the stations arent in then best part of town but riding the train isnt bad at all
    ===============================
    O they have minor blemishes…like my Stabler jersey..They spelled Ken..Kne..but for 50 bucks no one sees it so WTF…penny saved is a penny…well you know

  • http://atm Raider O

    I have been in this great country for 15+ years!! That’s a long time in one place!!

  • r8rpaver

    We drive to Dublin and get on the train for like $10 round trip each..drops you off a couple 100 yards from the stadium..you cant beat it…leaving kinda sucks when 30,000 people want to go home at the same time but its still not bad

  • r8rpaver

    O have you ever been to a game ?

  • http://atm Raider O

    R8,

    Kne! LMFAO

    To be honest with you sir, I made the purchase but didn’t buy it. My Mom paid for it as my Bday gift ( in a few months).God bless her, she did a lot for me and still trying to do more. She bought me a few things, and the discount really helped.

  • http://atm Raider O

    R8,

    No sir. I was lucky enough to see a BBall game. My friend took me.
    I like good seats, so I watch from home.

  • r8rpaver

    Thursday was my B- Day…like my daughter said im 21 for the 25th time LOL

  • On the beach in Cancun

    I started hating Rob Ryan into his first season with the Raiders, as his lack of pressure defense was allowing every one to run over us. I still hate Ryan, and I’m happy to see he’s gone. Wish Davis would have fired him sooner, but he was on scholarship with Davis, just like Condo and Sam Williams.

    We’ll get an indication of how bad Rob Ryan is this year. If he made it into the NFL off his father’s name and past glory, or if he capable. If he does half-azz OK, then we’ll have an indication that it was Davis’ meddling that caused our last six-years of horrible defense. If Ryan continues to be a shzt-head DC, over the next three years, then we’ll know it was Ryan inability to run a defense and he was their because of his father’s name.

    I think it will be a combination of both. Ryan was and still is a shzt-head and Davis did stick his wrinkled,
    purple and green smelly face into the running of our defense.

    It’s now 50-50…50% good that Ryan is gone, and 50% bad that wrinkled, purple and green smelly face is still in control. Well, you can’t win em all.

  • http://atm Raider O

    Jerseys are $25 in Mexico!! I didn’t know that, thx Bob.

  • OAKlifer

    hey little bobby hows the diaper rash bro???????

  • r8rpaver

    O if you can you HAVE to go to a live game there is nothing like it

  • http://atm Raider O

    Happy B day bro, so you are 45.