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Who’s missing at Wednesday OTA

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, June 10th, 2009 at 9:50 am in Oakland Raiders.

As the Raiders completed stretching and broke into position groups for drills, the following players were not present:

P Ricky Schmitt, QB Jeff Garcia, P Shane Lechler, PK Sebastian Janikowski, WR Arman Shields, QB Andrew Walter, RB Justin Fargas, FS Hiram Eugene, S Mike Mitchell, FB Oren O’Neal, DE Derrick Burgess, WR Javon Walker, DT Terdell Sands, DE Jay Richardson.

WR Darrius Heyward-Bey (hamstring) was on the field running through drills with the receivers, and DT Gerard Warren (pectoral) was also suited up.

This doesn’t preclude the possibility of some players appearing from the locker room after this post . . . will check in later.

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  • Chris in NY

    True O,
    Although, I’ve gotta say I hope he never has another 3 tackle game again. LOL.

  • http://atm Raider O

    DMC, Bush, DHB, JR, and Thomas H are amazing talents.

  • lefty12

    Chris,do you read the comments on here?most of those that post on here hate on the guy,then say they don’t.comments like -we should trade him for whatever we can get;he should’ve been cut yesterday;we don’t need him,we’ve got Rankin.as i said,i agree Bush and Mac should be the 2 main RBs,but team players like Fargas are what makes winning organizations.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Dogg, Kobe choked last night big-time…might cost them the title. Even Stan Van should be able to see that the Lakers can’t handle guard penetration, which they used to win game 3 and were winning game one until they went away from it…

    As to the refs…plenty of bad calls both ways…

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Fargas again? Has such an irrelevant player ever garnered this much attention from a fan base before?

  • http://atm Raider O

    Chris,

    Agreed. LMAO

    Bush: 6’2 250, and runs a sub 4.45. He played QB at HS.
    DMC: 6’2 215, and runs a sub 4.3!! He played the WC a lot in college, can catch, and he can return.
    TH: 6’3 235+, runs a sub 4.4 and has good hands.
    DHB: 6’2 215, and runs a 4.3!!
    JR: 6’6 unknown, runs a sub 4.85, and has a cannon for an arm.

    We need an Oline now. IMHO

  • Chris in NY

    # lefty12 Says:
    June 10th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Chris,do you read the comments on here?most of those that post on here hate on the guy,then say they don’t.comments like -we should trade him for whatever we can get;he should’ve been cut yesterday;we don’t need him,we’ve got Rankin.as i said,i agree Bush and Mac should be the 2 main RBs,but team players like Fargas are what makes winning organizations.

    ————————

    I hear you, but I think people really just say that stuff because they want an assurance that DMac and Bush will be the primary ball carriers. The only way to get that right now is for Fargas not to be around. Not saying I agree with trading Fargas for that reason, but I think that’s the mentality of the fans who appear to be hating on Fargas rather than true Fargas hate.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    First play of afternoon 7 on 7 drills and Russell is down clutching his knee
    less than one minute ago from mobile web

  • SnB Defense

    Just play the best players. Young players need reps if they are ever to develop into anything more than role players themselves.

    Perhaps if Fargas was given the ball earlier in his career, he could have really exploded. But the Raiders kept yet another young player under raps behind a string of old veterans….

    Bush in particular would be a starter, or get significant carries, right now on several teams (Bengals, Browns, Eagles, Texans, Packers, Lions, Broncos, Chiefs, SEAHAWKS, Cardinals, Saints, Bucs, Colts, Pats)…..Oakland has to get this guy on the field. And not just as some Goal Line back. Bush is a 20 carry back

  • http://atm Raider O

    If nothing else, this should be fun in Madden!!

  • DMAC

    Hell yeah O
    Can’t wait

  • ottocrat

    OTAs: first thoughts
    The Raiders wrapped up OTA practice today in Alameda. Here are my initial thoughts and observations with more to come later.

    ** Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha is at voluntary OTAs for the first time in two years. He missed the first three weeks taking care of personal stuff but decided to join the team this week.

    He must be wondering why he bothers, at least on the practice field. Not a single throw went his way.

    When rookie Darrius Heyward-Bey lined up against him on the left sideline, JaMarcus Russell never looked to that side of the field as he dumped a swing pass to fullback Lorenzo Neal on the right side.

    It isn’t like the defense is that tough to learn under new defensive coordinator John Marshall. If nothing else, the highest-paid player in the NFL is being a leader by being here.

    “We know the game plan, pretty much know how to play,” Asomugha said. “On defense, it’s going to be the same stuff. And on offense, it’s going to be what they were doing last year.”

    So much for Marshall really changing things up. Tom Cable wasn’t kidding when he said the defense would stay the same, only it will be taught better.

    ** Heyward-Bey is back after missing a month with a sore hamstring. He caught one pass against the defense and could not hold onto two other attempts when the cornerback was all over his case.

    Because they ran so much red-zone defense, he never got to test his speed with a deep route. He’ll have to keep working on going after the ball in coverage instead of waiting for it to get safely in his chest.

    ** JaMarcus Russell had by far the best red-zone practice of the offseason, throwing touchdown passes on four straight plays — two to end 7 on 7s, two to start team drills.

    More on that in tomorrow’s paper.

    ** New quarterback Charlie Frye did not play in any team drills. Bruce Gradkowski ran the second team with Jeff Garcia absent for a second straight Wednesday for personal reasons.

    Justin Fargas and Terdell Sands were also absent.

    ** Center John Wade remains with the first team. Left tackle Khalif Barnes split snaps with Mario Henderson on the first team, something Tom Cable said started last week to ensure they got equal snaps.

    ** Free safety Hiram Eugene hurt his back during practice and was replaced by Michael Huff in team drills.

    ** One more note on Asomugha, comparing Marshall to Ryan.

    “It’s definitely different. They are two completely different people. Rob is fired up all the time. John takes a back seat a lot of time and lets his other coaches do the entertaining. He’s still a good coach. I like what he’s doing now. Right now, we’re still playing man. That’s not going to change. But, as far as his philosophies and teaching the game, teaching us to play better as a unit, I like what he’s doing.”

    Posted By: David White (Email) | June 10 2009 at 12:14 P

  • lefty12

    you are right Dakota.way to much time spend discussing him.but i wouldn’t call him irrelevant.

  • DMAC

    Huggy Bear has been good to the Raider Organazitaion, but I think it’s time to move on with DMC and Bush

  • http://atm Raider O

    Nothing on twitter about JR!

  • ottocrat

    There are no “afternoon 7 on 7′s” practice is over. The JR post was a goof.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Just kidding about Russell Raider O.

  • SnB Defense

    Was Ronald Curry loyal? Didn’t Ronald Curry give his all to the team?

  • http://atm Raider O

    Is the 2nd session closed to the media?

  • lefty12

    “but as far as his philosophies and teaching the game,teaching us to play better as a unit,…”-now that’s what we’re talking about.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    I would like to keep Fargas on the roster, he’s a great insurance policy, but we can’t because Cable will script the first three series for Fargas and we will be down 21-0 before Cable decides it’s time for McFadden and Bush.

    Fargas has naked pictures of Cable and Herrera making out in a closet at the teams HQ…only explanation for Fargas ever taking a snap when those other backs are activated.

  • http://atm Raider O

    Dakota,

    Dude!! You are an …! I need to relax!!
    That’s not funny!!

  • lefty12

    actually the team was more loyal to him.what other team would have shown a 7th rd. pick the patience the Raiders did after 2 blown achilles tendons.

  • http://atm Raider O

    I hope the lakers lose.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    lol

  • http://atm Raider O

    Karma: Kobe goes down with a knee injury. Orlando wins.

  • lefty12

    if our def. played worth a damn under Ryan,we wouldn’t have been down 21-0 in the 1st qtr.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    I spit in the eye of Karma!!!

  • DMAC

    GO DUBS!

  • SnB Defense

    Lefty,

    All I am saying is that Ronald Curry was loyal to the Raiders. He fought back from those ligament injuries…he was a hard worker, never complained….yet the Raiders still let him roll on out the door.

    My point being, is that loyalty should not trump talent when it comes to setting the roster/starting lineup.

  • http://atm Raider O

    Dakota,

    “Karma is a Biotch” remember?!

    LMFAO

    You have to learn the hard way, don’t you?!

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Dakota Says:
    June 10th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
    First play of afternoon 7 on 7 drills and Russell is down clutching his knee
    less than one minute ago from mobile web

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    He wasn’t clutching his knee, he was pulling an unlit stogie out of his sock…

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    If Karma is real, then in my next life I am going to be a tree that is cut down and turned into a waterboarding device.

  • DMAC

    Dakota Says:
    June 10th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
    First play of afternoon 7 on 7 drills and Russell is down clutching his knee
    less than one minute ago from mobile web

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    He wasn’t clutching his knee, he was pulling an unlit stogie out of his sock…
    ——————————————————-
    No, he was reaching for his curly fires that had dropped out his pouch

    hahhaha

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    new post

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Raider O Says:
    June 10th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
    Karma: Kobe goes down with a knee injury. Orlando wins.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Are you suggesting Kobe/Lakers have a karma deficit? If karma did actually play a factor in the NBA, Paul Pierce would have blown out both knees soon after faking an injury and getting carried off the court in last year’s Finals. What a non-man.

  • http://atm Raider O

    BSJ,

    No wonder he is calm all the time, it’s not a Stogie. It’s a blunt!! lol

  • lefty12

    S&B-i agree.i also agree Fargas should not get playing time over the other 2.but i don’t agree with all the negativity thrown at him.he has done what has been asked of him to the best of his ability.
    i don’t know if i’d say Curry was so loyal.sure he fought back,he had to so he could continue his career.but last year when he was benched because he was dropping everything thrown at him,he biotched,whined and moped.if Bush and Mac start getting all the carries(like they should),i’d bet Fargas doesn’t act the way Curry did.

  • 4evaRaider

    and a DOH nut

  • NoMoreFargas

    Calm down Dakota we never would win 4-0 with Magic a lot of jordan bulls series would go 6+ , Kobe should have relied on gasol more win game 4 and it all good.
    GO RAIDERS!!!!!!

  • On the beach in Cancun

    Dakota…post 171:

    Good point. Something doesn’t make sense. Just like Sam Williams still around? Also, why do we waste a rooster spot for a long snapper, Condo? Ya, I know, he plays on special teams. Big deal, he does nothing on special teams.

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