Frye got the Davis treatment


A funny thing happened to Charlie Frye when he visited the Raiders early in free agency.

He was asked to stay an extra day so he could talk to Al Davis.

“When they say, `Can you stay an extra night? Mr. Davis wants to meet you,’ you just kind of say, `What?,’ ” Frye said following Wednesday’s OTA practice.

When Frye visited Alameda, the Raiders hadn’t yet signed Jeff Garcia and were looking for a potential backup for JaMarcus Russell, perhaps realizing Andrew Walter had every intention of blowing off all voluntary workouts in hopes of getting out of town.

Frye had won in Oakland twice. In 2005, in his third professional start after replacing Trent Dilfer, Frye guided the Browns to a 9-7 win on a late field goal by Phil Dawson. The following year, with Cleveland trailing 21-10, he did it to the Raiders again, rallying the Browns to a 24-21 victory.

Those games were a topic of conversation in an office Frye said “had a different aura. You can just feel the history.”

Said Frye: “He was re-living plays like they happened yesterday. I was like, `Did you just look at the film or something?”

Frye said Davis told him he had not.

For instance?

In the second game, Frye said Davis said, `You remember that fourth down when you hit Winslow across the middle? That was a backbreaker.”

Frye said he didn’t remember it until Davis mentioned it. (For what it’s worth, and it’s not much, I don’t remember it at all).

Sure enough, the game play-by-play shows a 22-yard pass to Winslow over the deep middle on fourth-and-8 to the 9-yard line. After a 7-yard run by Reuben Droughns, Frye flipped a 2-yard score to Winslow on the next play to bring the Browns within 21-17.

Frye said he spent time in the offseason working with Julian Edelman, an undersized Kent State quarterback eventually drafted by New England in the seventh-round as a return specialist/slot receiver in the Wes Welker mold.

He tried to sell Davis on Edelman.

“He knew all about him. Said he was a 4.6 guy,” Frye said.

In other words, not fast enough for the Raiders.

Realistically, with Russell as No. 1 and Garcia at No. 2, Frye’s best hope is to unseat Bruce Gradkowski, who has a head start in the system but doesn’t have Frye’s physical skills. Frye said he doesn’t know what his role will be.

“That’s up to the coaches, the personnel (department), Mr. Davis,” Frye said. “They’ll let me know what my role is.”


–Forgot to mention Wednesday safety Mike Mitchell will be at next week’s OTA session because school will be out at Ohio University.

— Got a chance to talk briefly with passing game coordinator Ted Tollner, or at least exchange pleasantries. He remembered a conversation we had before the 2008 draft about preparing Stanford quarterback Trent Edwards for the combine.

Tollner or any other assistants have not been cleared to speak to the media as Tom Cable is taking the Bill Callahan “one voice” approach preferred (but not necessarily demanded) by Davis.

— How much have opponents tested Nnamdi Asomugha over the past few years? According to stats in Jim Trotter’s story on Asomugha in this week’s Sports Illustrated, Asomugha gave up two touchdown passes in 72 attempts in 2006, one in 38 in 2007 and none in 35 last season.

— In giving his reasoning for reporting to training camp last season, Asomugha used the word “apocryphal” in describing the stories about a potential hold out. He laughed when I told him at the time it was the first time I’d quoted an athlete using that word in nearly a quarter-century in the business. He told me he’d try and come up with another one at some point.

Mission accomplished.

In the SI story, Asomugha noted “It can be a bit sententious in the Nigerian household.”

In case you were wondering, “sententious” is defined in the Webster’s on-line dictionary as “given to or abounding in aphoristic expression” or “given to or abounding in excessive moralizing.”


Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • Davis treatment? He was benched like Marcus Allen?

  • 4evaRaider

    that MUST be some good sheet Oaklifer

  • DMAC


  • 4evaRaider

    HELL YES the MISSLE will be at the next OTA’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 4evaRaider


  • DMAC

    Do you guys think Alston will be any good or will he end up like Sam Williams?????????

  • 4evaRaider

    Man by them # Nnamdi’s vice-like coverage is getting tighter!!!

  • Mistabrown

    Because J Russell is ANYTHING but a bonafide Qb. Fingers are crossed in Alameda and allover the Raider Nation. With the exception of a few blow hards of course..

    # steveandblack Says:
    June 11th, 2009 at 10:08 am

    Seriously, why in the f**k do they need 8 QBs? Unless they are trying to scare Russell into improving it seems like overkill.

  • Mistabrown

    BSJ, #10 is funny. You dont really believe AL is trying to scoop every backup QB just so other teams cant sign them do you ?


  • Thank you Jerry.

    Good morning Nation.

  • Mistabrown

    Jerry did you find out what kind of contract Frye got or were you too focused on being first at the lunch line ?

    Sorry couldn’t resist!

  • Mistabrown

    G’morning O, whats good in the hood ?

  • Good for Al, and people said he lost it!!!

  • DMAC

    sup O

  • Mistabrown

    If AL remembers 1 pass from Charlie Frye 3 years ago Im sure J Russell throwing at the feet of receivers & over/under throwing wide open receivers is FRESH in the old mans mind!

    Hence Charlie Frye, Garcia, Gradkowski, Walter (not Walters).

  • DMAC

    I got a feeling DMC is going to have a monster year!

  • DMAC

    Hope he’s got the right kicks this time

  • Mista,

    All is well. I can’t wait for that JR jersey anymore. It should be a few more days.

  • Mista,

    Why did Al compare him to Elway then?

  • DMAC,

    NFLWIN25 is a promo code for the NFL shop, it gives you 25% off.

  • DMAC

    When can you use it?

  • Stabler76
  • Mista,

    Al wanted JR, but the Kittin wanted CJ. Al compared JR to Elway a few times. That’s huge, Elway!! Do you really think he is ready to give up on him now, After 1 season as a starter!! 13TDs and 8 INTs!!! Not bad for a 1st year starter.

  • DMAC

    It said till 2010, have fun.

  • Mistabrown Says:
    June 11th, 2009 at 10:26 am
    BSJ, #10 is funny. You dont really believe AL is trying to scoop every backup QB just so other teams cant sign them do you ?



    No, I was being sarcastic. But why else would Al bring in addl. QBs when he already has the great Danny Southwick to lead us back to glory?

  • DMAC


  • 4evaRaider

    Oh thats very good Twocents!!!

  • lol at Twocents…funny stuff.

  • Mistabrown

    O, I didnt say that, and NO I dont believe he’s ready to give up on him at this point. If I’m AL I’m a little antsy about JR’s work ethic and progress up to this point. If he comes out the gate looking good alot of us will be relieved.

    Imagine if we start 0-3 and JR looks a mess. I think JR will hit the bench. AL has a short lease attached to those sweat suits….dont forget that!

  • Mista,

    Al drafted DMC and DHB to give his new toy some weapons.
    No way he is ready to give up on him now. Al kept players with a lot less talent cause they were his picks, you know that!

  • Mista,

    Ok, not give up!!
    But I don’t think if we start 0-3, it will be due to JR. We still have issues at the OIline and Defense. Now, if we start 0-3 due to JR, I still don’t think he will hit the bench. He will have this entire season to work with his new coaches. Atleast!! IMHO

  • Mistabrown

    O, for the record I think JR is going to be ok. A pro-bowler or SB qb Im not sure its too early.

    The problem here is Russell is the first high profile high dollar high draft pick qb we’ve had here in a LOOOONG time. In the day & age of crazy contracts he is the BIGGEST investment AL has ever made to a player so you know AL’s sphincter is so tight you cant drive a nail up though it.

    Lastly, the Raider Nation is very touchy about this guy when his leadership & work ethic is being questioned by the HC.

  • 4evaRaider

    Lastly, the Raider Nation is very touchy about this guy when his leadership & work ethic is being questioned by the HC

    So very true

  • Mistabrown

    Sorry for the dbl O’s Im on this FKN laptop & I hate it.
    I like this quote from Cable..

    “What I’m trying to create here is a collection of leaders and guys that will take charge of this football team”

    I think Tom got some advice from Madden. In the Madden days his teams were full of leaders like Upshaw & Villapiano they kept those teams focused on Sundays!

  • Mista,

    Since the 90s and Mr. I would rather smoke pot and paint than play for the Raiders!!
    Touchy!!! Hell yeah, aren’t you.?? We didn’t want to hear that after last year’s 300 pounds issue!! All the media reports indicate a bad work ethic, but we know he’s been there working for a few months now!! I’m touchy!!

    Sorry dude, I got too excited.

  • Twocents

    Mistabrown, you’re on a roll today!

    I have added both “cheese dix” and the sphincter line to my repertoire.

  • “Chill we got this” that’s a leader to me.

  • Mistabrown

    Apology accepted but not necessary.

    Its not just media reports its coming from the HC as well, O! If it was just media I wouldn’t pay it no mind.

  • Chill we got this, and then throws a TD to Chaz.
    That’s a leader.

  • Mistabrown

    Twocents I bet you cant wait to get around the water cooler!


  • Mistabrown

    O, he meant Chili’s we got this!

    He’s talking about buffalo wings & fajitas! Duh!

    Wakeup O!!


  • Mista,

    Sorry, lol

    No need for apologies!

  • Mista,


    Please excuse me, but I will be back in 1 hour. time to watch Elmo’s world. 😉

    Later Nation.

  • Mistabrown


    RaiderDell or (DblStandardDell) AKA OakGlenns mouthpiece, informed me the other day Im not as funny as I used to be so I have inserted colorful words like “cheese dix” & “sphincter” to my brilliant post so I can regain the much needed respect and approval from Dell.

    Feel free to borrow & steal just like a Dem0crat.

  • I’m at work so I have to do this intermittetly. And my spelling is getting worse.
    Dakota, I’m not mad, not THAT thin skinned, I like our discussions. You are right I did assume & “have a normal knee jerk reaction” to what I wrote…I never said I was against the taxation plan.Paranoid? Sorry I called you narrow minded but I’m not paranoid or gay. Altho I should be paranoid after all obama still lets the C!A listen in whenever. Constitutional rights are changing for the worse. I could care less about ratings for O &O’R, I’m not an idealoge.

  • SnB Defense

    Russell is not a bust…not anywhere close. You line up the statistics…winning pct and he is right on time with other great QBs this early in their career.

    He has to improve next year like everyone in the league has too.

    Some of you guys want Rich Gannon back and you see Rich in Jeff Garcia. Newsflash guys…championship teams are not built of off veteran retreads. As good as GAnnon was, he could only give the Raiders 3 or 4 good years…..meanwhile guys like Favre, Manning, Brady, Rivers etc….will keep that position manned for 10 to 12 years or more.

    Wait and see where Arizona and Tennessee will be in the next year or two. They are in a win or else after they use up the one or two good yrs they get from Warner and Collins.

  • SnB Defense

    Another truth

    Michael Bush and Darren McFadden should get about 90 to 95% of all the carries this year.

    Fargas is a serviceable running back and a good leader. But he is not going to take over the game like a strong running game truly should.

    The Raiders ranked 10th last year in rushing but had few impact runs/games and few touchdowns. DMAC and Bush proved they can take over football games and win.

  • SnB Defense

    More truth

    Chaz Schilens should be the starter and JLH needs to be an active number 2 or number 3 receiver.

    Anything the Raiders get from DHB, Walker or Murphy will be a bonus

  • DarthPirate

    Where IS Jeff Garcia. Shouldn’t people be killing him for not being here? 😀

    Seriously though, I’m glad JaMarcus did well in front of the media.

  • SnB Defense

    Some defense truth

    Trevor Scott should just be the starter and be done with it.

    Terdell Sands has to step up big time….Warren is not a run stopper

    Mike Mitchell should start. So should Tyvon Branch. Hiram Eugene and Michael Huff are role players