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Raiders live chat today, 1 p.m.

By Jon Becker
Thursday, June 11th, 2009 at 11:56 am in Oakland Raiders.

Jerry McDonald will bring you the latest news and information from the Raiders OTA this week in Alameda today during our Raiders live chat today (Thursday) from 1 p.m.-2 p.m. PDT.

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  • gilbert

    246, get some sleep!GRUDEN had us on BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL,you dont think he knew how to beat our defense?sorry,but I see you as a HATER,my opinion!anyway,RAIDERS!!!!!!!!

  • 4evaRaider

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    June 13th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
    Only 1286 days till the end of the world:

    http://www.2012supplies.com/countdown.html

    Thanks Albert!!!

  • 4evaRaider

    Hey Bob,did you get everyone banned???

  • NoMoreFargas

    What’s up 4eva were is everybody?

  • SaintKaufman

    Excuse me, just passing thru…

  • r8rpaver

    Keep moving…nothing to see here

  • 4evaRaider

    We’re all gone

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Gilbert, insulting me is not going to change reality. You can call every fan that tells the truth a hater, and it won’t change the truth. Some of us want to see the Raiders win. You, on the other hand, are content with the losing, and just calling anyone a “hater” if they put the blame where it belongs, with Al Davis. I’ll continue to “hate” on, you continue to be a mindless kool aid drinking shill. Al Davis, meanwhile, will continue to lose and continue to render me right. All the best, little one.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Are you guys to still going to put the SB loss on Gannon’s interceptions, despite me breaking down the first 3 quarters and demonstrating that Gannon only threw 2 picks in that time, and Tampa diced our defense apart to the tune of 27 unanswered points? Of course you are, Gilbert. You don’t know any better. Blame anyone but Al, that’s your motto. It’s Gannon’s fault. Gannon traded Gruden to TB. Gannon was the one who decided not to give Gruden a new contract after he took us to our first AFC Title game ever. Gannon’s final 3 INTs in that game were when the game was out of reach. With absolutely no running game and an offense as predictable as daylight, not to mention an offensive line that revealed themselves to be a doormat when facing a good defensive line (they revealed it against Miami earlier in the year, as well), Gannon could have done a lot worse. Imagine JaMarcus Russel out there. Ha ha! Gruden outprepared Al Davis, and that’s all that happened that day. To give Davis credit, he outprepared Gruden two times since then. Gruden’s no hall of famer. But he was better than Davis when it counted. That’s been the story of Davis’s life since ’86.

  • gilbert

    real mr,see youve continued youre discussion with youre self.Carry on,please do enjoy the rest of youre day,and tell us again youre thoughts on AL.See ya,after the Giants game

  • http://justwinbaby! 909RaiderLifer

    For any of you gearheads out there. I found this one on Gallery’s fleet of American Iron:

    http://www.trucktrend.com/features/consumer/163_0905_oakland_raider_robert_gallery_celebrity_drive/index.html

  • http://atm Raider O

    ” Gannon ONLY threw 2 picks in that time”

    LMFAO, only 2 in the 1st half!! LMAO

  • http://atm Raider O

    #259,

    You have no clue on what you are talking about, that’s why I ignore most of your posts.
    The reason Gruden was traded, due to him wanting to leave, and to be in Florida. That’s why Al traded him, he wasn’t going to stay anyway.

  • http://atm Raider O

    It would have been a great trade for us, if:

    1- we didn’t play TB in the SB
    2- got more of the picks than Brayton & Washington!

    We were the best offense that year, and they had the best Defense. Bill was outcoached by Gruden.

  • http://atm Raider O

    KK,

    The Raiders have had the most merchandise sales every year since 1987. The raiders generate more revenues of their merchandise sales than any other team in the NFL.

    Also,

    According to the site you posted, we were 30th in 2004. I don’t think they include Merchandise sales.

  • http://Raiders.com RaiderTW

    The Raiders ranked first among NFL teams in licensed merchandise sales from April 1, 2003 through March 31, 2004, the third consecutive year the team has topped the list. The Patriots moved from ninth last year to No. 2. The Packers placed in the top five for the eighth consecutive year, while the Falcons moved into the top ten for the first time since ’92. Last year’s rankings are listed in parentheses (THE DAILY).
    -
    Which NFL team has sold the most merchandise worldwide?
    In: Football – American, NFL Teams [Edit categories]

    [Edit]
    There are 2 parts to your question. Most merchandise in a single year and most merchandise to date.

    the most merchandise in a single year had been known to change from time to time. The two biggest in year to year are:

    Dallas Cowboys and the Oakland Raiders

    Other teams have come close depending on their current popularity and current Super Bowl win.

    The answer for the overall most merchandise sold is:

    The Oakland Raiders

    And the numbers are not even close.

    This is according to the wholesalers of NFL merchandise.

    1 year ago
    -
    As for the rest of the revenues the NFL has kept the Raiders down since Roselle was Commish.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 14th, 2009 at 2:07 am
    Yeh, and I know one of you idiots is going to bring up the 3 point spread from that game (you know who you are…), and if I have to explain to you why the odds makers really favored us by 3 points, then I’ll have to seriously consider rather or not you’ve ever really bet in your life, or if you even really live in Vegas.

    ************************************************

    I know what you are hinting at, the “LA affect”, we call it, when basically any weekend game involving the Lakers, Dodgers, Raiders and even De La Hoya fights, the line gets out of whack due to so many guys coming out to Vegas from SoCal and putting money on their team. The line started at 3 and ran up to 4 actually, but still these “adjustments” if you will, or only for a point or two, so at best your point is that people thought it was a coinflip, 50/50, pick ‘em type of game. Hardly, “it went quite as people who know anything about football expected”.

  • priesttj

    Any fan base that dosn’t see their team in the playoffs or at least winning games is not much of a fan base IMO. Fans are that way by definition. Koolaid drinking is in affect leaguewide.

    I don’t remember seeing any post predicting a SB championship especially in light of the past 6 years. So I don’t think anything is going on here that’s not going on in at least 28 NFL team fan bases. I remember a QB predicting a 10 win season a couple of years ago by a team that hadn’t won 10 games in almost 20 years. Guess what they went 8 & 8 after a 6 & 2 start.

    NFL optimism runs wild in every NFL city this time of year. No one really looks forward to losing.

    Except maybe MR or some other haters.

    A hater is someone who hopes that someone else doesn’t succeed. Even against all rational reasoning that suggest that they MAY have success.

  • M Lonetree

    BHP,

    screw the haters and the donkeys they road in on. they attempt to justify themselves with partial truths which are, as everyone knows, the tricksters biggest asset.

    okay, no one else will do it, I will. All characters and performers will come together, them against the NFL world, fearless. Any missteps will be rectified along the way. Career numbers for many.
    2010 Super Bowl champion Oakland Raiders.

  • http://atm Raider O

    M,

    If we make the SB in 2010, I’ll buy you your fav Raider jersey! And a cap.

    Just win Baby!

  • http://atm Raider O

    BHP

    “No one really looks forward to losing”

    LMFAO

    Based on logic that would be true, too bad logic is not used here more often!

  • gilbert

    Raider O,M lonetree,you/we are NOT alone,check out other AFC teams websites/links,etc Now,M Lonetree,I hope you are gifted w/seeing the future,cuz I see a playoff spot,not sure yet after that.I do see the Raiders on top of the West,hey,this team has talent,got to figure in injuries,refs,and luck! Raider O,are You still selling cars/trucks,Im in the market ,got a 2007 GMC truck,low mileage,waiting for 2010 models. RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://atm Raider O

    Gilbert,

    Is it paid off?

  • http://atm Raider O

    Willing to give you more, sorry.

    Do you know if you owe more than the car is worth?
    Was it a lease or purchase, and what is your pay off for the next 10 days?
    You need to know this info, do you sir?

  • http://atm Raider O

    After you do all that, let me know before you buy, so I can tell you what invoice is on that car.

    You need to know the model, and all the options, or the VIN #.

  • http://atm Raider O

    Now sir,

    That was for free, anything more, I would have to charge you sir.
    I’m really good at what I do. ;)

  • gilbert

    Raider O,275 is great info for every one ,all interested in a New/used ,car,truck,etc But,Im a member of a credit union,baycities,YOU want the sale or not? NOW O,you know what Im about to say,Raiders!!!!!!!!

  • http://atm Raider O

    Gilbert,

    I would love to earn your business sir, but it will not be a good deal for you if you have to buy it from San Diego. :)

    You can drive here, or I’ll bring it to you. That the 2nd costs extra!!

  • http://atm Raider O

    About 300- $1000 extra. It depends on how you want it to be delivered.

  • http://atm Raider O

    I can drive it to you if you want, that costs a lot extra!!

    Food, Gas, etc…

  • gilbert

    Raider O,lets see what happens,Ive an idea,but not Right Now,maybe in SEPT,more will follow,Raiders and out!

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    Oh yeah, Forbes is a Raider Hating outfit too. They didn’t include T-Shirts? lmao

    http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/30/sportsmoney_nfl08_NFL-Team-Valuations_Rank.html

  • http://atm Raider O

    Gilbert,

    Yes sir, take your time!

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 14th, 2009 at 9:48 am

    Are you guys to still going to put the SB loss on Gannon’s interceptions, despite me breaking down the first 3 quarters and demonstrating that Gannon only threw 2 picks in that time, and Tampa diced our defense apart to the tune of 27 unanswered points?
    ————————————————————-

    So what you are saying is Gannons 5 pix didn’t have an impact on the outcome of that game?? If I remember right, we were down by 13 points with about 7:50 to go in that game. In fact, I was at that game. The Raiders sent me down to that Super Bowl game. 2 TD’s win that game, and we had the ball with just less than 8 minutes to go if I remember right. At that point, as bad as we had played, I thought we were going to win that game. Then came the next Gannon INT which was taken to the house. What were you saying now??

  • NoMoreFargas

    What’s up nation yeah where all you Kobe haters at now huh, that’s right and get ready for a couple more cause Black Mamba ain’t done but you haters sure are.

  • 4evaRaider

    Good Morning NATION!!!

    Get ‘em NMF!!!

  • priesttj

    Kobe will never get the credit he deserves due to the media and the Michael Jordan worshipers of which Magic Johnson is the bandwagon driver.

    Right now the proponderance of NBA commentaters are of the Michael Jordan era. And Kobe early in his career was hailed as the next Jordan and they weren’t having any of it. Michael IMO is not the best player I’ve ever seen. To say that he was means you probably are considering the NBA since 1980. But the NBA was around long before that. And what I saw before that wont let me say Michael Jordan was the best.

    Wilt Chamberlain is still the most dominant player I’ve ever seen and Russell was single best at what he did. Michael may have been the best 2 guard I’ve ever seen but Elgin Baylor was as spectacular effective around the basket as Michael ever was. Doctor Julius Erving was the most spectacular player I’ve ever seen hands down. But Michael combined the Doctor and Baylor at the 2 guard. That’s what made Michael so special.

    Kobe’s game is different from Michael Jordan, Jordan was better around the basket Kobe is better from 15 and out, both played the game very intelligently. But Kobe IMO is already cementing his name as the second best 2 guard ever and he’s only 30 years old. Think about that for a second! 2nd best ever at 30 years old. Has been to the finals 6 times won 4. At 30 years old……… But the Michael Jordan worshipers refuse to let the kid be himself.

    THe NBA never saw Doctor J that we saw in the ABA if they had Michael would’v been compared to that Julius Erving in stead of the one he was compared to. And he would’ve never have measured up. Doctor Julius Erving made Michael Jordan’s exploits in the air look boring. And I know most will never believe that, but it’s TRUE.

    Kobe however gets compared to Michael at Michael’s best. And Kobe given fair credit does indeed measure up, if they would judge him fairly.

  • NoMoreFargas

    Dmac looking great already get him the ball , I hope Mitchell can bring back that old Raider d toughness that we haven’t had since Howie was on the D tired of not hitting guys on D.

    Mitchell/Branch Atkinson/Tatum

  • NoMoreFargas

    Priest I’m not old enough to ever have seen those greats but have always heard from older guys who I respect that Big O was the best, but Wilt was a 400yrd runner in HS and can’t imagine Lazy Shaq even bothering the great

  • priesttj

    Another thing many don’t understand about this kid whom is so disliked by the media and fans. He has at his age unseating the greatest Laker ever Magic Johnson. Magic won 5 Championships, Kobe 4 and the #’s that Kobe put up in the finals this year are matched only by the second best Laker ever Jerry West and the great Michael Jordan. Think about that for a second!!

    If Kobe goes to finals and wins another Championship he could unseat Magic as the single greatest Laker EVER!! put that in your pipe and smoke it. Who would’ve ever uttered those words. But if he wins another ring you’d have to say he is. That team Kobe took to the finals last year I don’t think Magic Johnson could’ve done that. I know many will say I’m crazy but I’m very serious if you look at the youth on that team there are very few super stars that could’ve accomplished what Kobe has with them. That’s why I say what I say about Kobe. No one will judge him fairly.

    What he accomplished the last 2 years is phenomenal.

  • priesttj

    NMF. I saw all of them except Bob Cousy and George Mikan. If ESPN had been around when Oscar Roberson, Pete Maravich and Jerry West were playing not to mention do many other greats, what people say about Michael Jordan would not be nearly as emphatic.

    If only the doctor had operated in the NBA he would’ve gotten 3 times the credit he got, but no one saw him. Larry Kennan included you can also add David Thompson to the list. Whom if he had played on that stage David Thompson would have been considered the best 2 guard ever before Michael. Problem with David he got hooked on drugs and ruined his career.

  • 4evaRaider

    and I dont think I ever saw Pistol Pete miss a shot

  • NoMoreFargas

    Priest us who grew up after the AFL and ABA know any knock on those leagues in their day were just media bias and the big boys trying to snuff new more exciting leagues. Just imagine today a rival to the NFL or NBA that was so good they adopted their style and take teams from those leagues well that was the AFL and ABA.
    GO RAIDERS!!!

  • OAKlifer

    Morning Nation!!!

    Congrats to the lake-show and to Dakota/Dakota’s Furniture!!!

    I agree Kobe…He’s alright!!!

    GO O-line!!!!!!!!

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, 4EVA,NOMOREFARGAS,PRIEST.MY EARLIEST MEMORIES OF BASKETBALL,ARE OF THOSE RED-WHITE-BLUE BALL’S AND RICK BERRY TOSS’N UP THOSE UNDER-HAND FOUL SHOT’S.THOSE GUY’S PAVED THE WAY 4 TODAY’S STARS .

  • OAKlifer

    LONG LIVE RICK BERRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Mornin D-LF!

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    HEY OAKLIFER, GOOD DAY..

  • hwnrdr

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Yup…All the haters scorned at me when I told them that Orlando was NOT going to win another game!!! Oh well…another 6-7 weeks to go!!!

  • priesttj

    Rick Barry, I had forgotten about but he was IMO right there with West and Baylor. Barry was better than Larry Bird but the Jordan era crowd will never say that. Barry was hands down the most skilled small forward ever, Elgin was more dominant physically.

    I dare say we have never seen another player quite like Rick Barry or Pete Maravich.

  • priesttj

    6 weeks until training camp. It’s going to be a fun year. Iwas watching the best LBing corps in history and I remembered the 3/4 defense we ran back in the day. I think the talent we have now lends itself well to that style again.

    I think they are getting ready to kick Ricky Brown inside and Alston outside Dburg and Scott will be versatile enough to accent that defense. But if you really look at the talent on defense it is extremely athletic and capable of a lot of versatility. They can present so many fronts and put athletes all over the field. If used right and they execute they could be very impressive. Everything comes down to discipline and execution.