Update: Ellis to sign with Raiders
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, June 15th, 2009 at 9:00 am in Oakland Raiders.
Greg Ellis could be the most recent veteran leader to be added to a youthful Raiders roster, according to AOL’s NFL Fanhouse.
UPDATE: The word I’m getting is the Raiders have been working diligently to bring Ellis aboard and it appears likely he’ll be brought aboard this week and be on hand for this week’s OTA.
Ellis is a respected NFL veteran who fits in with the signings of Jeff Garcia and Lorenzo Neal, a veteran who hopefully not only has something left to offer as a pass rusher but as a leader in a unit which could use that type of presence.
It remains to be seen whether Ellis has anything left or is another Greg Spires, who came to the Raiders in similar circumstances last season but failed to make the 53-man roster.
The Raiders have not confirmed this signing. They have their final OTA starting Tuesday, with media availability on Wednesday.
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June 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Uno
June 15th, 2009 at 9:12 am
well I would like to see the kids earn a spot but Ellis is lightyears better then Spires and has alot left imho. If he were to be healthy that would give us more leverage in the handleing of Burgess.. Who Im on record saying we should keep this is his last chance for a huge payday he will show up big time!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 9:14 am
If Greg Ellis is better against the run than Burgess see you later Derrick !!
June 15th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Depth baby!
June 15th, 2009 at 9:18 am
666,
Only if we get fair trade…no moss for gargage deal here!! there was a great post/cloumn the other day about how Raider players are deemed less valuable due to their situation Moss for exsample!! I say no less then a fourth rounder with incentives to move up to a 3rd if he reaches double digit sacks!!! Dont let him walk for free though could you imagine A couple of Stout DE’s against the run then bring in burgess and who ever else to rush the QB….could work wonders for our lackluster Run D!!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 9:19 am
OAKlifer Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 9:00 am
The greatest irony: The Laker HOFer becomes synonymous with the Clippers
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Funny some kids dnt even know Elgin played in the Other LA…….only as a clipper!!!
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Last Laker note for a bit, Elgin played for no other NBA team but the Lakers in Mpls and L.A. Never played for the Clippers. Donald Sterling was looking for a name when he moved the Clippers from San Diego to L.A.
Like Babe Ruth wanting to manage the Yankees, Baylor was not qualified to GM Jerry Buss’s best friends team.
June 15th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Thanks Dell for the words on the last thread. I can’t wait for the day that I get to enjoy an Oakland Raiders SB victory; it will be ten times sweeter than what I am feeling right now I am sure.
June 15th, 2009 at 9:24 am
I have no problem with this signing (if they didn’t give him the rest of the bank). He should be able to help the rooks come along a bit.
Burgess and his yearly stomach flu are starting to get old.
I doubt he makes a huge impact, but if he can be around for the rooks, it would be a good addition.
June 15th, 2009 at 9:27 am
With all the transactions that we`ve made at D end through the draft and free agency coupled with the inactivity at all of the OTA`s.This all but spells the end of Burgess`s tenure as an Oakland Raider. Personally I think he is when healthy the best pass rusher that we`ve had since Pat Swilling.I hate to see that production go. Oh well when was the last time Burgess played a full season anyway.
June 15th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Dakota Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 9:20 am
I can’t wait for the day that I get to enjoy an Oakland Raiders SB victory; it will be ten times sweeter than what I am feeling right now I am sure.
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And on that fateful day I will be the first to proclaim: CRISSY CARTER, HOWZ AL’S AZZ TASTE!?!?
June 15th, 2009 at 9:30 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 9:19 am
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thanks for the history lesson coach/gm…got it!!
love my sports but not much a student of B-ball I’m a Blazer fan thats about where I draw the line like
march maddness aswell….but geuss I shouldn’t talk about lakers b-ball on a Raider blog without knowledged! I just Racked My self Romie would be proud!!!!!!
BUT LONG LIVE RAIDERS AND ALL THIER TRADITION!!! something I will never forget and always know!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Great signing, I think. I’ve been saying we need some more veteran leadership on the defensive side, and when Ellis was released I was secretly hoping he’d somehow make it to the Raiders. Glad Al got this one done. Having to rely on Jay Richardson and a bunch of younger guys when Burgess doesn’t feel like playing is not a good situation to be in. We paid for our lack of depth on the d-line last year, so hopefully between the young guys and a seasoned veteran we can at least plug a few more holes.
June 15th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Greg Ellis? Wow, run D problem solved!
Right?!?
June 15th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Here is an interesting write up on Greg Ellis. Sounds like he had a really good year last year….
Ellis was drafted in the first round of the 1998 NFL Draft by the Dallas Cowboys. He had his best season in 2004 in which he had nine sacks, 44 tackles, and one forced fumble.
At the end of the 2005-2006 football season, Ellis stated that he was not sure if he would return to the Dallas Cowboys due to decreased playing time, saying ” “I just think obviously he (Bill Parcells) just feels that I don’t fit into the scheme the way he wants me to fit, or I’m not that guy he’s looking for.” Parcells was changing the Cowboys’ base defense from its traditional 4-3 scheme to the 3-4 scheme for which Parcells was noted; Ellis wasn’t sure he could be productive as a 3-4 defensive end, as at 280 pounds, Ellis didn’t have ideal size to take on stronger, heavier offensive tackles from an inside position. Ellis’ snaps appeared to decrease down the stretch. His 121-game streak as a starter ended December 4 against the New York Giants when he was replaced in the lineup by rookie Chris Canty.
On June 6, 2006 Ellis said he wanted to see a “commitment” from the Cowboys before he fully accepts a new role with the team. After participating in the mandatory three-day mini-camp Ellis skipped the last two days of organized team activity practices (OTA’s).
Ellis became the starting strong side linebacker in Bill Parcell’s 3-4 Defense. Parcells thought that Greg reminded him of Willie McGinest, a former player of Parcells that had made the switch from defensive end to linebacker. Through the first eight games, the transition was successful. Unfortunately, in a game against the Arizona Cardinals on November 12, 2006, Ellis went down with a torn Achilles tendon when pass rushing and missed the remainder of the season. For 2006 season, Ellis had 30 tackles, three forced fumbles, and 4.5 sacks in eight games.
During the 2007 offseason, Ellis created a stir in the Cowboys Training Camp by making it very clear that he wanted to renegotiate his contract to make for more money up front. Despite his complaints about his contract, Ellis has contributed greatly to the Cowboys training camp, taking the young players under his wing and mentoring them while he has been unable to practice.
Ellis returned for their Week 4 game against the St. Louis Rams. Although not a starter, Ellis did have his first quarterback sack in over a year in that game. He finished the season co-leading the Cowboys with 12.5 sacks. His incredible comeback from a possible career-ending injury and his 12.5 sacks were enough to get him the NFL Comeback Player of the Year Award. On January 30, 2008, Ellis was voted into the Pro Bowl for the first time as an injury replacement.[1]
Ellis was released on June 2, 2009.
June 15th, 2009 at 9:40 am
Sounds like Ellis prefers to play in a 4-3.
June 15th, 2009 at 9:41 am
What a plethra of information here!!!!! how am I going to remember all of this stuf??????
June 15th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Another case of a team not wanting to pay a 30+ yr old vet. We might have gotten ourselves a player.
June 15th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Hey, as long as they didn’t overpay him, I think it’s a good signing.
June 15th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Ellis had 8 sacks in 08 and 12.5 sacks in 07. 20.5 sacks in 29 games means that this was a good signing.
June 15th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Now if we could have Burgess on one side and Ellis on the other for a full season now that would be awesome and of course a miracle.
June 15th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Defense
NO. NAME POS AGE HT WT EXP COLLEGE
56 Derrick Burgess DE
59 Jon Condo DE
58 Kalimba Edwards DE
92 Derrick Gray DE 23
97 Greyson Gunheim DE
93 Tommy Kelly DE
58 Slade Norris DE
98 Jay Richardson DE
99 Matt Shaughnessy DE
96 Stryker Sulak DE
and Ellis….hmmmmmmmmmmm 11 DE’s even tho Kelly is more like a comp eater and condo should be listed as Back up LB but still alot of camp bodies… who stays and who goes??????
June 15th, 2009 at 10:01 am
I think you can take Edwards, Condo and Kelly off that list for various reasons.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:06 am
various **
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LOL
June 15th, 2009 at 10:07 am
You could put it that way.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:09 am
congrats to u and yours Dakota I love that feeling!!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Thanks man! I can’t stop smiling. This is how I felt in 2000 when they won the first one after 11 years…the titles in 2001 and 2002 were just a relief that they were able to three-peat. This one was special.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:13 am
yup theres nothing like earning it!! and your boys did just that!!! ALL of ‘em imho…even the bench was hitting on all cylinders!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Jerry,
I think it is good signing for the Raiders. What do you think?
Prediction: If the Raiders can win thier first game, they will have a winning season.
David
June 15th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Sounds like they getting rid of somebody or
Burgess is trade bait.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Prediction: If the Raiders can win thier first game, they will have a winning season.
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Dave,
Good prediction bro eating up the dis-chargers will do more than put one in the win column it opens alot of young guys/vetrans eyes lets them know hey we CAN beat any team any sunday if we WORK!!!!!
Russell 14-26 238 yrds 2td’s 1 int
Mcfadd 12 carries-85 yrds 4 rec 55yrds 1 td
D-line 3 sacks
DB’s 2 picks
OAK 28 SD 17
WE WIN PASS THE KOOL-AID!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 10:27 am
What’s up Nation?
That’s why I wanted Kobe Vs. James!
June 15th, 2009 at 10:28 am
You’ll have to wait for next year Raider O.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:29 am
I like Ellis, I think he has a few years. he played well last year.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Raiders need to go either 2-1 to start the season for us to have a chance. We need to block better need our WR to get open. Thats was a major problemo last year. Defense….get your charmin middle together so we can stop the run ala Tackles…Kelly and Sands…Our LB’s are pro bowlers if you can stop the run. But those guys OLAY defenders let the LB get RB coming at them full speed.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Dakota Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 10:28 am
You’ll have to wait for next year Raider O.
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Blazers will beat LA in the WCF you’ll need to wait for a couple years O…
June 15th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Oaklifer,
I hope DMAC is getting more than 15 touches.
I hope that Michael Bush gets more than 12 carries
I hope the run defense can contain LT and Sproles
I hope Cable doesn’t forget about JLH as a wide receiver
June 15th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Dakota,
Isn’t James a FA now? Maybe the lakers will sign him, but what happens to Kobe then!
June 15th, 2009 at 10:34 am
RaiderO, Lebron is a FA in 2010…I am sure he’ll be a Laker eventually.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:34 am
That’s why I wanted Kobe Vs. James!**********
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my favorite hip-hop line right now!!1LOL
think its the GAME
“I got a million dollars say LeBron dnt get a ring I be on the floor like hey Kobe! You know me, You know another brother that can score 82 show me!!”
Sorry guys!!! couldnt help it!!!
Mornin O!!
June 15th, 2009 at 10:36 am
OAK,
Blazers!! Not for a few years, but not if they sign James!
James,
Go to Magic or the Blazers, and you will win it all.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:38 am
James, go to NY and never win a title…but you’ll have plenty of puppet commercials and a lot more money!
June 15th, 2009 at 10:38 am
James to the Bulls, Magic, or Blazers in 2010!
Pls God, not the Lakers!! How can I like James if he is a laker!!
June 15th, 2009 at 10:38 am
SnB Defense Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Oaklifer,
I hope DMAC is getting more than 15 touches.
I hope that Michael Bush gets more than 12 carries
I hope the run defense can contain LT and Sproles
I hope Cable doesn’t forget about JLH as a wide receiver
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ALL SOLID WINNING POINTS!!!!!
The first two will go along ways in deciding our w-l record this year!!
The Third better hold true to all RB’s and oppossing lineman!!
And Cable better be making WAAAY better decisions this year about who plays and wjo gets the ball!!
This might be the first time in a LONG while we have too much talent and not enough balls hope Cable distributes properly!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Raider O Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Dakota,
Isn’t James a FA now? Maybe the lakers will sign him, but what happens to Kobe then!
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1 more year till FA. But with the Chinese influx of money and LJ’s China connections it is probable he resigns in Cleveland. Especially if they get Shaq, Even at 38, he greatly improves their center play over 2+ rpg Ben Wallace.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Blazers could be tough in the coming years…if they stay healthy and don’t panic and trade away their young core of players.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:40 am
but not if they sign James!
James,
Go to Magic or the Blazers, and you will win it all.
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Lebron who?????? We have Brandon Roy!!! well unless lebron could run the point and!!!……..hmmmm to bad it wasnt a bigger market!!
June 15th, 2009 at 10:41 am
if they stay healthy !!!
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Is that an Oden bash?? LOL
June 15th, 2009 at 10:42 am
OAK,
I like the Game, Gangsta Pudding!!
Taking it Ol school.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:42 am
yes it was, lol…nice catch Oaklifer.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:44 am
O,
I was raised the right way love all music!!! my Dad took me to shorleine to see my first Dead show many moons ago….he never was biased and always listened to our music I was lucky now I consider all forms of music art yes evenrap to all you haters out there!! I feel blessed not to have a narrow “music” mind!!
June 15th, 2009 at 10:46 am
OAK,
Doctor’s Advocate was his best work. IMO
June 15th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Is Oden following Russell’s diet? Entering the 2008–09 season he is listed at 250 lb (110 kg), but according to Blazers’ trainer Jay Jensen he weighed about 290 lb (130 kg) in July. Bad on the knees.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:50 am
OAK,
I like all music except country! I even like Bluegrass!
June 15th, 2009 at 10:51 am
I would like to think the Raiders are doing some of the image rebuilding the Blazers had to do the last few years!! And it has worked wonders in P-town lets hope the results are the same here in the Bay!! Getting rid of all the me first, Win first, Stat First guys, who smoke d0pe and punch teammates in the face!!!! and getting guys like Brandon Roy, and DHB/M&M to help make our teams better and when we need vetran presence we dnt run out and grab TO or Plax or Vick we bring in guys like Neal and Ellis…Wheras last year it was G Wilson and Hall!!! we all see how that works!!!GOOD WORK UNCLEW AL!!!!
“oh yhea and kevin prithcard”
June 15th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Rap is Music, and it’s a form of art.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Doctor’s Advocate was his best work. IMO
That was a good one… cant take LAX out of the cd player tho letter to the king w/ Nas is primo every slap on that album knocks hard!!!
I even like Bluegrass!
ME too bro fav band is old crow medicine band…they are d0pe Wagon Wheel is good ol tune “thin bob dylan wrote it” and c0cain habit funny stuff!!!
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exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Is Oden following Russell’s diet? Entering the 2008–09 season he is listed at 250 lb (110 kg), but according to Blazers’ trainer Jay Jensen he weighed about 290 lb (130 kg) in July. Bad on the knees.
LMFAO…ok ok…truth hurts!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Get on JRuss when he needs to. Right now all we know is that he did good for the last two games and seemed to be turning a corner. His weight was not a issue at all last year. He is a big dude thats gonna be big. For how big he is at least he isnt a statue.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:59 am
OAK,
I’m looking for them at YouTube now!
June 15th, 2009 at 11:00 am
I’m getting more optimistic each week about the Raider’s. Greg Ellis is a beast.
See ya later early crew.
“We are the champions, we are the champions, of the world.” At least the NBA.
June 15th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Well Dakota, BoSJack fulfilled his part of the bargain and got you an NBA title. Now it’s your turn to comply by bringing another ring to the Silver and Black. (Hint: having the three areas of the football team play as cohesive units rather than as a collection of individuals is the best place to start. Individuals, very talented or merely adequate, are each made better when as a part of a whole they have one another’s back.)
June 15th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Wagon wheel, and whiff on me are two good youtubers!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Yes O,
That is a kazoo those guys are playin in the back round!!! LMAO!!! gotta love it!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 11:07 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder
L8r Raider!!
June 15th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Raider O ,
Hey brother if you like blugrass and southern rock you will love this dude Sunny Leford you heard of him???
maybe a little to country for your taste but give him a chance he is one cool cat!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 11:12 am
NASCAR » Blog Archive » Money Sorter Breaking New Ground
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WOW now we have SPAM on OUR blog COME on JERRY!!!!!!! who is this guy???????
June 15th, 2009 at 11:19 am
M Lonetree Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Well Dakota, BoSJack fulfilled his part of the bargain and got you an NBA title. Now it’s your turn to comply by bringing another ring to the Silver and Black.
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Word! (although I only said playoffs).
June 15th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Did anyone here see the first episode of Food Party on IFC last Tuesday?
June 15th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Did anyone here see the first episode of Food Party on IFC last Tuesday?
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Is this a trick question????
Out to lunch peace peps!!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 11:24 am
peps/peeps its all the same when you type like a 6 yr old!!!!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 11:25 am
It is not a trick question. It is a new show on the Independent Film Channel, quite brilliant.
June 15th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Thanks ABP,
I will check it out!!
June 15th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
wow lunch and back and the only thing going on is beechnut tryin to own ABP….zzzzzzz…tumbleweed…even the laker talk was better than this!!!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Don’t worry, oak – in a few hours ol Krappy will be waking up from his Benadryl-induced nap and then all the fun will start.
June 15th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
No prob O, good stuff!!!! the music that is!
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What difference will Shaq make if the cavs can’t cover the 3 ball. The real missing piece is defense
~from breck22
LOL this was his response to the cavs getting shaq!!! LMFAO!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
lol thanks beech,
I’ll be sure to look forward to that your guys mind numbing ramblings actualy amuse me through out my day!!!!
RETURN TO GLORY:
The Story of the 09-’10 Superbowl Champion Oakland Raiders!!!!!!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
The O brother where Art thou soundtrack was great. I lived in KY for about a year, got me loving bluegrass music!
June 15th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
I like the Shaq to the Cavs trade…might work for one year.
June 15th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
WOW do I have some Wally-pipping to do in here its been a week so here it goes
1st. No more wannabe rocker I see hmm wonder Y???
2nd. Beechambone, You should not try to wally-pip any body when your the boner of the group…its clear that you have been changing kell’s dipars as long as sflifer has been chaning al davie’s. You my friend need to get a life before the STOP THE ABUSE AGAINST OLD F#cker’s finds you on here and writes you a ticket for crappin on krappy!
3. sflifer, montana, and all the rest of you bball droolin chumps this is a raider blog!! FYI retards!!!!
3.a KOBE IS THE KING BEST EVER HANDS DOWN
3.b Only real fans can do that
4. P!lls are kickin in now and I just listen to c@cain habit glad to see raider o is showing some of you punks what real music is!!!!!!!!!!!BUT AGAIN this isnt a music blog LOL @ U retards
5. GREG ELLIS IS CAMP FOTTER!!!!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
RETURN TO GLORY:
The Story of the 09-’10 Superbowl Champion Oakland Raiders!!!!!!!!!
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Just when I thought this idiot couldnt get any worse here it is STUPIDS BLOG ENTRY OF THE YEAR!!! GOES TO SFLIFER!!!! what a chump!!! and beechambone dnt even bother responding you will lose to my witts!!!!! evn krappy owns you!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Andrew Walter, has enrolled in the NFL broadcast bootcamp to be held at NFL films, in New Jersey.
http://raiderbeat.com/?p=2664
June 15th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
why hello my fellow nation brothers, i hope everyone and thier families are doing well. its been a long time…. but im here now.
June 15th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Where is Jhill? I hope he didn’t do harm to himself because of the Houston series….I know he said the Lakers would never win with Gasoft in the middle….thankfully that wasn’t the case…
June 15th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
What up STR?
June 15th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
No prob O good stuff huh???
LOL Hey boobie bob hows it hagin brah???
Your post become more and more profoundly dunce like with every key stroke, but dnt fear we all talk about yu when your gone heck some of us even miss ya so the bottom line is your “alter ego” of a cool raider fan hagin with legends and poppin p!lls…is a hit on this blog….if not in your own mind so keep up the good work and a steady hand on the drool/jizzzzs rag you’ll need it!!!!
Oh yhea P.s. we missed ya!!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
dakota my brother, how have you been
June 15th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Welcome back STR same to you!!!
RAIDER ON!!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Doing quite well right now…this Lakers’ victory should carry my spirits through August…let’s hope that the Raiders can carry it on through the fall and winter (just compete baby!)
How is everything going for you?
June 15th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
beeecham Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
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My witts were no match for twerp man I see last post 45 mins ago!!! LOL N@rco 1 twerps 0
June 15th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
going good man, thanks for asking. congrats on your laker title. well deserved.
i like what i see so far with our raiders, i hope everything plays out well for us now. ya know one of jerrys comment i read on the last chat really made sense to me. i mean, jerry has been my eyes to the raiders since i first visited this site 3 years ago. this site is my only first had news. cant get much raider coverage living in cowgirl country especially living way down deeep here in south texas. the question was…
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“Jerry, you have covered the Raiders for a number of years, what is the difference this off-season compared to the others that would give us hope that the Raiders are turning things around. How is Cable camp different from the others? ”
2:06 jerrymac: It’s not the Cable camp so much as the fact that they strayed from adding big names who were really the failures of other teams and instead are working on developing their own young players. That, combined with an out-of-nowhere final two games when it looked as if they were done for, make the beginning of this season much more interesting.
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as ive heard before,
it gets worse before it gets better…..
i think its time for the better for us now…dont you think fellas.
RAIDER FAHQIN NATION BABY.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
i see the no faith raider fan hating raider fans still lurk these blogs.
lol, those losers always have nothing better to do.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Pass the Kool-Aid Oaklifer! I’m drinkin’.
Yes, beating SD will go along way than just that victory.
It may be asking for too much but I hope they truly shut down LT. I would wish the same for Philip Rivers but I may take him in my fantasy football pool!
Raiders turn around in 09,
RaiderDave
June 15th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
bobertsIV………………………………………
ok i give up.
what did you use to go by…..
June 15th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
major turn-around RaiderDave,
A well needed and deserved turn-around for the franchise, the team and especially the RAIDER NATION!
June 15th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Raider O Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Hell yeah, I missed Bob!
Whas up Bob?
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goin good raider o glad some one has some taste on here!!! I would have been here but it wqas a long week last week started in Flordia golfing the links with my cousin”insider”. then we went north and took the new england crusie thro nrwegea or some shii like that reall good time!! then we stopped in SD on the way home met up with a lot of old cali football greats partied and the red lion right by OB down there!!!! loved it lots of autographs!!!!
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SouthTexasRaider Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
i see the no faith raider fan hating raider fans still lurk these blogs.
lol, those losers always have nothing better to do.
I hve Faith just not blind fiath LIKE you simple folk…if its written on the wall I sure as heck can read it!!!!! WE suck and it;s because of one man and one man only!!! no need to question my fan hood but maybe yuor glasses need replaced if you see different!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
RaiderDave….
YES SIR!!!!!!!!!!!!KOOLAID!!!11
WE WILL BE BACK!!!!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
SouthTexasRaider Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
bobertsIV………………………………………
ok i give up.
what did you use to go by…..
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You remember our boy N@rcoBob……with more O’s and less @ symbols!!!!!!!!!!LOL hungry troll!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Bob,
Dude, I live in SD. Next time let me know!! Also, I love bluegrass, but I didn’t about Old Crow Med. OAK told me about them, and that song you liked.
Next time you in SD, hit me up. We will use the Hookah!
June 15th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
I didn’t know about, sorry.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Next time you in SD, hit me up. We will use the Hookah!
I’m down there to surf in 3 weeks think its the first week in July we will have to hooka- up!!!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
oh i see your one of the blame it on al sheep.
say no more, i wont question your faith brother. im not on here to bash, just talk raider football.
i see very different but dont blame al, nor support him.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
OAKlifer Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
SouthTexasRaider Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
bobertsIV………………………………………
ok i give up.
what did you use to go by…..
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You remember our boy N@rcoBob……with more O’s and less @ symbols!!!!!!!!!!LOL hungry troll!!!!
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LMAO…..dorco bob….
June 15th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Don’t worry guys, Al is selling the team to Jerry Buss and he will move it to LA and put Jerry West in charge. They’ll make this a professional organization once again.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Bob,
And surf Dude!!!! I have a 7′ board, and a long Board.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Hey Bobert Ignatowski, I see they let you out a early!
Congrats! Did Ahnold grant parole to all the addicts or just you?
How’s the General? When he moves out from under that bridge, please let him use your login at the Alameda County library. I miss the one poster who still claims Oakhole isn’t an Oakhole.
Well, gotta get movin! That “gettin off work” feeling is kicking in! Wow, I just love that “money in the bank” headrush…
June 15th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
They’ll make this a professional organization once again.
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HEY NOW!!!!!!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
bobertsIV Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Next time you in SD, hit me up. We will use the Hookah!
I’m down there to surf in 3 weeks think its the first week in July we will have to hooka- up!!!!!!
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dude…hooka-up…LMAO talk about some korny schit!
i just threw up.
and you said….
bobertsIV Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
I think I’m going to throw up nothin worse than a dakota / texas family reunion hide yer sister’s and all yer cousins heck male er female we do ‘em all!!! yehaw!!!!!! Do any of you guys even know this is a raider blog?
man bro you can change your name but your stupid online personality will always follow you….
June 15th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Later Bob.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
i think ill name you……
bobbinforbertsIVincher…..LMAO!
June 15th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
man bro you can change your name but your stupid online personality will always follow you….
thats the least of dorco’s problems!!LOL
June 15th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Dakota,
I don’t want professional, I want AL!
June 15th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
im out nation brothers.
i check back later when there is raider talk and not dates being set up or “hooka-ups” being planned.
RAIDER FAHQIN NATION BABY!
June 15th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
BAG=(Big AL’s GOON)
Ellis is a decent player. 8 sacks is more production than we had last year from any D-line position, hate all you want. However, only because of the philosophy in which has been in effect for several years now, Ellis is too old for this team. D.Burgess is now too old for this team, thus the attempts to trade him. Walker, Warren and a couple other players near or at 30 will be either retained for maybe a 1 year, cut or traded either this year or next. With that said, Ellis will be around depending on how well the 20 somethings do.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
lol
June 15th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
If I want professional, I would have been a cowboys fan.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Dakota Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Don’t worry guys, Al is selling the team to Jerry Buss and he will move it to LA and put Jerry West in charge. They’ll make this a professional organization once again.
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I see we hope and pray at the same altar Dakota…
June 15th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
later STR,
RAIDER ON brother!!!!!!!!1
June 15th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
think about it:
-Who will sue the NFL after AL?
-Who will tell the Comm, that he doesn’t need him to move his team?
-Who will make football interesting? Buss!!
June 15th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Later STR.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Hey Bo,
If Phil retires (which I seriously doubt) who would you want to see replace him? Rambis? Shaw? Clemons? Jerry Sloan? Pat Riley? lol
I heard Rambis turned down the Sactown job for the chance to someday coach the Lakers. hmmm
June 15th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Funny how they like what’s being done, yet the one doing it is too old to do it. Ellis should help, I’d be very surprised if he doesn’t.
SnB, will get angry at this because he’s not a DT when actually it should be further eveidence as to the coaches thinking that the present situation at DT good enough to win with at least. Or that the available talent isn’t capable of improving that position.
This defense is gearing up to get after the passer something we just haven’t done well lately. Stopping the run is first and foremost to playing defense but you get off the field and win big by getting to the QB.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
BAG=(Big AL’s GOON)
So if we (Raider Fans) do nothing but take jabs at our own owner for anything and everything can we really blame fans of other teams when they do it? AL Davis and the Raiders are not to the NFL what Jerry Buss and the Lakers are to the NBA. The Lakers are an NBA life line. Without the Lakers being good the NBA suffers greatly. The same doesn’t hold true outside of Raider Nation. Of course we all feel that the NFL isn’t the same without a great Raider team, but that’s about it.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
BAG, age isn’t the issue, talent is. If he can play he stays, if not he wont.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Age is the major issue. “If” Ellis was the same player with the same stats, problems and injuries but 26 or 27 he would be a shoe in to not only make the team but to start. Not the case here. Ellis is too old but he was best DE/rusher available and the group we have is not spectacular.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
BAG,
I was just kidding about Buss and the Raiders…although Jerry Buss has won many more titles than Al, Al is working in a much tougher league to win in…in the NBA you just need to find one or two great players and surround them with a solid supporting cast, whereas in the NFL you need to be solid throughout a 53 man roster to win a SB. All those NBA championships are more impressive than Al’s 3 SB wins, but Al has had much more to do with the Raiders winning back in the day than Jerry Buss ever had to do with the Lakers winning. But Buss just did what Al needs to do these days…hired people that know what they are doing to run the franchise and just sit back and enjoy the show.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
well brothers as Bo said it best today!!!!!!
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Well, gotta get movin! That “gettin off work” feeling is kicking in! Wow, I just love that “money in the bank” headrush…
WORLD HERE I COME!!!!!!!!!!ITS ON LIKE DONKEY KONG!!!!
later NATION!!!!
Raider ON!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Too bad Al can’t find a GM that he can teach and then let him go out and cut his teeth during the next few years in order for the franchise to be ready for the eventual time when Al is gone and Mark is in charge…although Al’s hiring ability remains sketchy at best, so may be Mark hiring the GM with the guidance of Madden might be a better situation?
I don’t know…damn.
June 15th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
BAG=(Big AL’s GOON)
Remember Kalimba Edwards the FA pick-up from last year? Well he and everyone’s new favorite toy (for the moment) T.Scott had virtually the same stats (K.Edwards stats were better) except one player turned 29 in December and was cut at the end of the year. Guess who? Age isn’t the issue? Under this new philosophy age is the new major issue.
June 15th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
BAG, the talent level of those two players was wide. K Edwards was no where near as skilled as T Scott. It had zero to do with age. Trust me.
T Scott IMO is as skilled a pass rusher as there was in the draft. How he lasted until the 6th rnd is inexplicable.
June 15th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
BAG=(Big AL’s GOON)
Dakota Says:
I was just kidding about Buss and the Raiders…although Jerry Buss has won many more titles than Al, Al is working in a much tougher league to win in…in the NBA you just need to find one or two great players and surround them with a solid supporting cast, whereas in the NFL you need to be solid throughout a 53 man roster to win a SB. All those NBA championships are more impressive than Al’s 3 SB wins, but Al has had much more to do with the Raiders winning back in the day than Jerry Buss ever had to do with the Lakers winning. But Buss just did what Al needs to do these days…hired people that know what they are doing to run the franchise and just sit back and enjoy the show.
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I totally agree and I’ll take you one further, if you really look at how things are being run such as rebuild not reload, young players versus old veterans, drafting a QB #1, etc., it appears that Big AL has released more control than people think.
June 15th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Dakota Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Hey Bo,
If Phil retires (which I seriously doubt) who would you want to see replace him? Rambis? Shaw? Clemons? Jerry Sloan? Pat Riley? lol
I heard Rambis turned down the Sactown job for the chance to someday coach the Lakers. hmmm
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Cleamons would be good, as they need to stick with the triangle for the remainder of Kobe’s prime. But I think Phil will be back. He loves driving when he has the fastest car…
June 15th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Trevor Scott had two good games last season. Let’s crown his ass.
June 15th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
T Scott IMO is as skilled a pass rusher as there was in the draft. How he lasted until the 6th rnd is inexplicable.
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BHP, Really?
June 15th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
The best players on this team are too young including Nnamdi. This team IMO is in desparate need of vet leadership, they just don’t know how to win.
They may learn in time but last year should’ve been a 8 – 10 win year and we won 5 games due to leadership issues.
June 15th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
KK REALLY!! when you watch T Scott and the great pass rusher you see the same technigue. Edwards had one move and if he didn’t win he couldn’t counter. This kid Scott has a tremendous array of moves.
June 15th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Later OAK!
Later Gents, I’m hungry.
I know this place called the Golden Bagel in El Cajon. Best healthy food ever!!
Mmmmmmmmm!!
June 15th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
BHP,KK, and others
He lasted for 2 reasons:
1- small school
2- played TE the first 2 years, not DE.
Later Gents.
June 15th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
BAG=(Big AL’s GOON)
priesttj Says:
BAG, the talent level of those two players was wide. K Edwards was no where near as skilled as T Scott. It had zero to do with age. Trust me.
T Scott IMO is as skilled a pass rusher as there was in the draft. How he lasted until the 6th rnd is inexplicable.
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It’s June and I am a die-hard Raider fan so I will not say what T. Scott is not because I HOPE that he becomes an unstoppable beast. However just take alittle peek at K.Edwards stats after 14 games last year and T.Scott after 16 games. Also remember T.Scott was a 6th round pick out of Buffalo. Not exactly a football powerhouse. Age seemed to be a glaring factor. Nevertheless, I hope you are right and T.Scott has a pro-bowl season.
June 15th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
I don’t know Priest, I don’t think the Raiders need any “Vets” to teach them how to win. I think the youngsters are building their own core. Russell & Dmac will run the house.
June 15th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
from the de position t.scott has a very good hard inside rush.you don`t see that move from de enough.charles haley was the best at it.scott reminds me of him.
June 15th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Why is it that you people have to act like babies? No one is anointing the kid the greatest ever, I’m simply saying his game is much more skilled than K Edwards.
But I will say T Scott IMHO is as skilled a pass rusher as we have. However I haven’t seen Ellis up close.
June 15th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Blackdeath29, You took the words out of my mouth Charles and Scott are very similar. Rangy, explosive and very skilled.
June 15th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
let`s just hope scott can be as good as haley.
June 15th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
KK you might be right and I tend to agree, but I’m saying last year we should’ve won more games. A lack of leadership hurt us badly. Nnamdi and others should’ve been able to stem the tide and they weren’t.
June 15th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Priesttj Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Why is it that you people have to act like babies? No one is anointing the kid the greatest ever, I’m simply saying his game is much more skilled than K Edwards.
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Priesttj Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Blackdeath29, You took the words out of my mouth Charles and Scott are very similar. Rangy, explosive and very skilled.
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I don’t want to be accused of acting like a baby. But, didn’t you just compare T Scott to Charles Haley?
June 15th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Kobe Bryant shoulldn’t have been to finals 2 years in a row. Last year he damn near those guy’sto the final this year he got molre help. But his leadership WON it for them, make no mistake about that.
June 15th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
priesttj,
I saw your thoughts on Wilt on the last thread. I totally agree. I think the best two athletes of the 20th century (if not all-time) were Bo Jackson and Wilt Chamberlain. They were both FREAKS.
June 15th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
There game is similar KK in style and athleticism
June 15th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
If I am drafting an NBA team from all the players that ever played, my big board looks like this:
Wilt
Magic
Russell
Jordan
Kareem
Big O
Shaq
West
Bird
June 15th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
“Their games”
June 15th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Priesttj Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
KK you might be right and I tend to agree, but I’m saying last year we should’ve won more games. A lack of leadership hurt us badly. Nnamdi and others should’ve been able to stem the tide and they weren’t.
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The problem was the Davis/Kiffin fiasco.
The DeAngelo Hall fiasco.
The Mike Bush to Fullback fiasco
Slamming Justin Fargas up the middle 3 straight times playcalling fiasco.
The Kwame Harris fiasco.
The Javon Hall Ronal Curry fiasco.
June 15th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
I thought it was trememdous leadership in that locker room, all things considered, to actually improve after all those early season fiasco’s.
June 15th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Very true KK
June 15th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Dakota, very few peple realize what type of athlete Wilt was. They know about Bo Jackson. But Wilt was an incredibly gifted athlete for a man that large.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
kirk morrison and thomas howard are both on chronicle live tonite.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Wilt was unbelievable. As a Lakers’ fan I always laughed when people compared Shaq to Wilt. They claim Shaq would have killed Wilt. I don’t think so. If they were both 22 years old and Wilt had the same access to the training and lifting equipment Shaq had, Wilt would have dominated him.
Doesn’t Wilt hold 50 NBA records? Jordan holds, like two, lol. They had to change the rules to make it fair for teams to even compete with Wilt. I think Gretzky might be the only other star that might compare to Wilt as far as records are concerned.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
My dad watched Wilt play with the Globetrotters in the time when he wasn’t eligible for the NBA, lol. That dude did everything! Including an Oscar worthy performance as Bombaata in Conan the Destroyer!
Kareem’s work in Airplane was much better than Wilt’s in Conan, lol.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
That’s because what Kareem said was funny as hell. Everyone knew why he said it and it was his first time being open to some people.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
http://2.media.tumblr.com/PjTqUfgs0kqgcwypNJxVAFNVo1_400.jpg
lol, a picture of Wilt, Arnold and Andre the Giant standing next to each other.
June 15th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
I would have to say that I agree with KoolKell when he wrote that the Raiders don’t really need a bunch of vets to lead them. The Silver and Black are transitioned to a young load of talent. An occasional veteran player may teach a few tricks and show how things may be in the NFL, but the true leadership on this squad must come from the players already in the house.
Greg Ellis. As with all the other present cowgirls, zero playoff wins. Could be a help. Could be a hindrance. Nothing to get excited about.
June 15th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Dakota…..
Wilt
Magic
Russell
Jordan
Kareem
Big O
Shaq
West
Bird
You’re missing Clyde and Dr. J
June 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
should have room for Pistol Pete as well
June 15th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Wasn’t Wilt like 1-8 in the NBA finals with a few series ending stinkers? And what type of center never fouled out of a game? One that was more worried about that stupid trivial stat than winning. Definately one of the top 10 of all-time, better than Shaq, but Russell is the greatest, and next is Kareem (who got the better half of Wilt when they played in the finals I believe, when Kareem was still Lew and Wilt was in his prime). My two cents.
And I think we would all be happy if Trevor Scott turned out to be HALF as good as Haley. That would be roughly 50 career sacks, a couple pro-bowls and Super Bowl rings.
June 15th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Read the book “Pistol” last year, great read for any Pistol Pete fans.
June 15th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Dakota…..
Wilt
Magic
Russell
Jordan
Kareem
Big O
Shaq
West
Bird
You’re missing Clyde and Dr. J
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And Roger Murdock. Tell your old man to drag Walton up and down the court for 48 minutes!
June 15th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Wilt Chamberlein seems to me the Dan Marino of the NBA. Greatest ever stats-wise, but not winning wise.
June 15th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Are we still talking about Bball?!!
June 15th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
We gave Ellis a 3yr contract, he’d not going to be cut!! The man can still play, and he now we can trade Burgess If we want to. Ellis will teach the young guys a few things.
June 15th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
AL,
Trade Burgess, Walter, and a 2nd RD pick for V Wilfork. Please!!!!!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Cam you see it Nation?
Ellis/ Scott
Wilfork/ Sands
TK/ Warren
Jay/ Matt S/ scott
TH/ Alston
Kirk/ Frantz/ Euk
Brown/ Rookie ?
Nnamdi/ SR
CJ/ Miller/ ?
Mitchell/ Huff
Eugene/ Branch
Make it happen Al, trade for V Wilfork!!
June 15th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Can you, sorry.
June 15th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
The Pats need a pass rusher, and a backup QB. They drafted Brace in the 2nd, and we can offer Walter and Burgess. Also a draft pick, 2nd or 3rd.
Make it happen AL.
June 15th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
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June 15th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
New post, O
June 15th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Roger Murdock…lol…that was drag Lanier up and down the court wasn’t it?
June 15th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Yeah…..yeah….yeah!!!!
Two good back to back days!
LAKERS WIN THE TITLE….AGAIN!
Great team win yesterday lead by the black mamba Kobe Brynat and he gets vindicated and redeemed.
Sorry haters! lol
Then the Raiders make a solid pickup by signing a big strong stout, leader at DE like Greg Ellis!
Great two days Nation!