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DHB pulls up, Mitchell still hurting

The Raiders will complete the pre-training camp portion of their offseason getting little in the way of development from their top two draft picks, wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey and safety Mike Mitchell.

Heyward-Bey pulled up on an out-pattern with an audible groan, clutching his right hamstring early in practice. He did not return, leaving the field with trainer Rod Martin.

As for Mitchell, who missed previous OTAs because NFL rules prohited him for participating before his class at Ohio University had graduated, the hamstring he injured back at the mandatory minicamp remains too sore for him to practice.

Among those players who did not attend included cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, defensive tackle Tommy Kelly, cornerback Chris Johnson, safety Michael Huff, defensive end Derrick Burgess and quarterback Andrew Walter.

Others who did not participate due to injury included wide receivers Javon Walker and Arman Shields, defensive end Jay Richardson, fullback Oren O’Neal, tight end John Paul Foschi, wide receiver Chaz Schilens and wide receiver Will Franklin.

Defensive end Greg Ellis, in his second day as a Raider after signing as a free agent, lined up at left end and was playing with the first team.

Quarterback Jeff Garcia, who missed the last OTA sessions following the birth of his son, was back at practice and split time evenly with quarterback JaMarcus Russell. Garcia had better success moving the ball against the Oakland second team defense than Russell did against the first team.

Russell said he and his receivers plan to meet at an undisclosed location this offseason to work on their timing.

More news and notes to come later . . .

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  • M Lonetree

    Ha

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Repost (and 1st, biitches)

    Watching footage of the Laker rally at the LA coliseum on ESPN. There’s a girl holding a sign saying, “Thank you, Fisher!”. Perhaps the first (and only) smart Laker fan I’ve ever seen. And she’s about 12.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Ok, fine. Second.

    And, here’s another repost:

    Ellis: Another decent talent who’ll be wasted in Al Davis’s prehistoric and ineffective defensive scheme.

  • DirtyRaccoon

    DirtyRaccoon Says:
    June 17th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
    M Lonetree,

    I see the bad moon arising.
    I see trouble on the way.
    I see the Bolts and thier lights out dancin.
    I see bad times opening day!!

  • http://cosmicdanceband.com Silver-n-Black666

    I am so sick of reading about the Lakers in this blog come on isn’t there some kind of 1-800-gay support line for you people.

  • OAKlifer

    Defensive end Greg Ellis, in his second day as a Raider after signing as a free agent, lined up at left end and was playing with the first team.

    YHEAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

    And yes 4eva the SHADOW KNOWS……….LOL

  • RaiderRockstar

    repost:

    you guys are assuming that Mike Mitchell will be a good or great strong safety. If not this year, then next … I understand the hype after Cable called him the next Jack Tatum or Ronnie Lott

    However, let’s be realistic for just a second. None of us have seen what the defensive front seven looks like under Marshall, Board & Haluchek. If this group doesn’t improve (no matter who starts there) the safeties will continue to get abused on a regular basis in the running game

    You don’t get a 31st ranked run defense due to the play of one SS … plus Branch & Mitchell are both known for their hitting – not their coverage skills. Let’s hope these guys aren’t anything similar to Roy Williams (Dallas) or Derrick Gibson. Gibril Wilson got abused in the passing game last year too

  • M Lonetree

    DirtyRaccoon,

    you’re on a roll. Revivalism!

  • http://cosmicdanceband.com Silver-n-Black666

    I bet Garcia’s wife is still hot the day after she gives birth…..look at this perfect rump!

    http://media.photobucket.com/image/jeff%20garcias%20wife/GeoFla/carmella2.jpg

  • RaiderRockstar

    Russell said he and his receivers plan to meet at an undisclosed location this offseason to work on their timing.

    ***

    In & Out Burger

  • SnB Defense

    “Russell said he and his receivers plan to meet at an undisclosed location this offseason to work on their timing.”

    That’s the best news I’ve heard all pre-season

  • jhill

    I agree with your take on JLH SnB …

    See, this is where I go back to the #1 concern being Cable and how he uses his personell.

    JLH is a playmaker, but he would CLEARLY have an advantage as a slot WR a la Welker.

    I think we should go with a single back 3WR set as our primary set instead of the I formation. Mix it up and have McFadden in the backfield with JLH in the slot, or McFadden in the slot with Bush in the backfield. Start Shillens and DHB, with Murphy and Walker getting about 10 snaps or so a game as well.

    Mix it up man!

  • CantstandtheHaters

    Russell said he and his receivers plan to meet at an undisclosed location this offseason to work on their timing.

    ———

    I definitly like this….

  • CantstandtheHaters

    …too lol

  • http://cosmicdanceband.com Silver-n-Black666

    I bet that’s why Big Al brought Garcia here, not to mentor Jamarcuss but to get one good close look at that rump in person and I guarantee his drool rag would need to be changed!!

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    You fellas with the “Who’ll Stop the Run” lyrics. Lol hilarity!! Gotta say, pretty entertaining.

    You guys, stat’s don’t tell the whole story. That was what my Vick tirade was about yesterday. The Raider defense has lost games 13-9, 12-10, two years ago, and lost one 17-6 last year when they got 4 Int’s against a 12-4 team. And they still lost! We have guys on the defensive side of the ball that can play. There is no doubt about that. So why did we give up nearly a 300 spot on the ground to Atlanta and New England??? Easy answer: Last year, our offense was soooooo poor, that teams knew if they could get up on us early, we had no chance of coming back ever and they could just pound the rock at us. And that is exactly what teams did. If you have ever played football, it gets to be a real drag seeing a 240 lb guy with a head of steam, or a 315lb linemen running your way to smash you over and over and over again. Until we can prove we can score points, come back on teams, score TD’s in the red zone instead of FG’s, history is doomed to repeat itself.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Lol, I would be making fun of these two rookies for missing time due to a hammy, but I pulled a hammy for the first time in my life about four weeks ago and it friggin hurts!!!

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Silver-n-Black666 Says:
    June 17th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
    I am so sick of reading about the Lakers in this blog come on isn’t there some kind of 1-800-gay support line for you people.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Bwahahahahaha I love Warrior fans! All three of em!

  • jhill

    You see that Simmons’s article Dakota?

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Silver-n-Black666 Says:
    June 17th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
    I am so sick of reading about the Lakers in this blog come on isn’t there some kind of 1-800-gay support line for you people.
    __________________________

    GOOOOO LAKERS!

  • SnB Defense

    Jhill,

    The key is that someone reminds Tom Cable that Darren McFadden was drafted #4 overall and is getting paid a lot of money. They should also tell Cable that McFadden really likes playing football.

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    Sorry to Repost

    # Oakglenn Says:
    June 17th, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    # Raider-405 Says:
    June 17th, 2009 at 11:55 am

    I want to move Morrison him back to OLB where he can take advantage of his speed.

    Did you think he and Howard were overrated when they both manned the OLB positions?
    ————————————————

    Get it out of your mind to do that. Morrison is not fast enough to play outside. He played there early in his career, and they had to move him inside because they had to. No way now that you can move him back outside. Here, let me elaborate: Remember the lst game of the last season, the Monday Nite Denver game where early in the game Cun tler hit their TE down the seam for about 50 yards with Morrison trailing by about 5 yards??? And that was a slow TE. Imagine him trying to cover Steve Slaton. Ain’t gonna happen.

  • http://cosmicdanceband.com Silver-n-Black666

    “Russell said he and his receivers plan to meet at an undisclosed location this off season to work on their timing”.

    Its been off season since February what the hell man and your just now figuring this out??!!….no wonder Payton manning and Marvin Harrison used to dominate in this league I bet they used to start their off season workouts earlier than mid June!

  • SnB Defense

    Dakota Says:
    June 17th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
    Lol, I would be making fun of these two rookies for missing time due to a hammy, but I pulled a hammy for the first time in my life about four weeks ago and it friggin hurts!!!
    ======================================================
    I tweeked mine once in my life slightly…the only way it heals is by rest and stretching it out.

    Either these guys had very weak offseaon workouts or the Raiders are literally running Olympic Relays all practice.

    Oh and drink some water too!

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 17th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
    Russell said he and his receivers plan to meet at an undisclosed location this offseason to work on their timing.

    ***

    In & Out Burger

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    And timing for the WRs means finishing your burger before Jawalrus eats both of his and snatches yours.

  • lefty12

    S&B-the key is McFadden has to be healthy enough to play.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    I did Jhill…he’s a big Celtic’s fan. Did you see this panicky Celtics article? The second and third comments were from me:

    http://exceptionmag.com/entertainment/sports/0001202/la-lakers-win-their-10th-not-15th-nba-title#comment-1054

    I also LMFAO at TJ Simers pissed-off article too.

  • jhill

    In N Out references surely shows you’ve been to Cali recently RRS!

  • SnB Defense

    Silver-n-Black666 Says:
    June 17th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    Its been off season since February what the hell man and your just now figuring this out??!!….no wonder Payton manning and Marvin Harrison used to dominate in this league I bet they used to start their off season workouts earlier than mid June!
    =======================================================
    I think you are being hard on these guys. Hell, if they can spend a good week before training camp and get the timing down….I think you will see a much crisper practice. Plus, Heyward-Bey, Murphy and Javon Walker weren’t available to practice given their injuries etc…..

    If they put in that extra work….they will be fine.

    Also…Its a learning process. Thankfully they are now figuring that out

  • http://cosmicdanceband.com Silver-n-Black666

    I don’t watch basketball I think its the easiest and gayest sport of all the sports so I don’t even know who the Lakers played.

    A 50 year old man made 5,221 Free Throws in a row and these NBA players cant even shoot 50% from the line?

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_most_consecutive_free_throws_made

  • RaiderRockstar

    I don’t know about you guys, but I am NOT counting on anybody that we drafted to make an impact in year 1 …

    WR: look for Higgins, Schilens and possibly Walker to turn some heads

    safety: look for Eugene, Huff and Branch to make some plays

    DE: looks for Ellis, Scott and possibly Burgess to create havoc behind the LOS

    OLB: Brown and/or Alston will start and do enough to make the LB corps one of the league’s best

    *** forget about DHB, Mitchell, Shaughnessy, Murphy & Norris for now ***

    Heck, the biggest impact might come from late round picks Sulak & Myers for all we know, like Scott & Schilens last year!

  • 4evaRaider

    well there we go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Jmac is gonna do the EXTRA work required of him,you know ,like someone who cares.WORK ON TIMING AND THINGS

    WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    I worry about Cable and McFadden too, but the way I see it, if McFadden is healthy and Cable keeps feeding the ball to Fargas, then we go 4-12 again and Cable is gone and the problem will be solved.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Silver-n-Black666 Says:
    June 17th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
    I bet that’s why Big Al brought Garcia here, not to mentor Jamarcuss but to get one good close look at that rump in person and I guarantee his drool rag would need to be changed!!

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Stop using the term rump!

  • SnB Defense

    lefty12 Says:
    June 17th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
    S&B-the key is McFadden has to be healthy enough to play
    =======================================================
    Of course….but let’s not forget what happened last year. Cable kept McFadden on ice most of the year. The media asked about it…JaMarcus personally lobbied for him….commentators said something during games…and on and on.

    Its about Justin Fargas to be honest with you. Does Darren get the ball or Justin. McFadden should be on the field for 80 to 90% of the plays whether its running or catching.

    Also, I hope Cable doesn’t forget about Michael Bush either. Bush saved his job!

  • RaiderRockstar

    timing for the WRs means finishing your burger before Jawalrus eats both of his and snatches yours.

    ***

    LOL. yup

  • http://atm Raider O

    In & Out, that’s what a hamburger’s all about!!!

    What’s up Nation

  • RaiderRockstar

    i’m asking my wife to make rump roast for dinner …

  • http://cosmicdanceband.com Silver-n-Black666

    SnB

    “I think you are being hard on these guys. ”

    These guys make in excess of 10 Million dollars a year the are the single reason why I now have to pay $55 a ticket see a game.

    Sorry I am not going to go easy on them its time to produce for JaMarcuss and McFadden and Javon Walker and Kelly!

  • lefty12

    Cable raves about McFaddens ability.do you guys actually believe IF Mac is healthy he won’t see the ball?

  • DirtyRaccoon

    Thought I heard a LaDainian Tomlinson rumblin
    Callin out Sands name,
    Two hundred million yards he’s runnin
    as Norv Turner cries, take aim!

    Run through the Raiders…

  • jhill

    Big debate here in Cali …

    In N Out or Fatburger?

  • http://cosmicdanceband.com Silver-n-Black666

    Bo Schembechler Jackson

    “Stop using the term rump!”

    Why……does it make you Horny Baby….are you feeling Randy!!

  • Florida Pete

    Silver-n-Black666 Says:
    June 17th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
    I bet Garcia’s wife is still hot the day after she gives birth…..look at this perfect rump!

    http://media.photobucket.com/image/jeff%20garcias%20wife/GeoFla/carmella2.jpg

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    it’s the view i prefer…

  • RaiderRockstar

    In N Out references surely shows you’ve been to Cali recently RRS!

    ***

    haha. yeah. you’re right. My wife had never been there before. had to go. it was a must

    I even flew in and out of the San Jose airport. minutes away from Oakland. the Raider Nation is strong. I could feel the force

  • SnB Defense

    Silver-n-Black666,

    But as with any job, young people have to be mentored. The Raiders have a collection of young players that for the most part have known nothing but success in their college days due to their superior athleticism.

    Then you add coaching chaos, retread players not interested in helping the young players, losing and you wonder why these young players have struggled some.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    My compliments to Friend of the Exception.

  • Random Drug Tester

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 17th, 2009 at 11:20 am
    Another solid draft would have been:

    1- OT Eugene Monroe
    2- C Max Unger
    3- WR Ramses Barden
    4- DT Terrance Taylor
    4- SS Nic Harris or Chris Clemons
    6- DL Will Davis or Myron Pryor
    6- LB J.D Folsom or Brad Jones

    oh well!

    C Max Unger was long gone by our 2nd pick at 39

  • RaiderRockstar

    I just can’t see the Raiders leading the league in rushing with McFadden, Bush & Fargas running behind an o-line featuring starters Samson Satele, Cooper Carlisle & Cornell Green …

    sorry for taking a whizz in the Kool-Aid!

    a top 10 ranking (like 2007) would be awesome, especially if Russell can get more accurate and the WR’s run proper routes, get some seperation and drop fewer passes

  • SnB Defense

    lefty12 Says:
    June 17th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
    Cable raves about McFaddens ability.do you guys actually believe IF Mac is healthy he won’t see the ball?
    =======================================================
    I don’t know what to think when it comes to the lineup and this coach. I like Cable too. But I am very, very concerned about putting the best players on the field with this guy.

    DMAC and Bush are superior to Justin Fargas
    Johnnie Lee Higgins can make plays
    Chaz Schilens should start
    Trevor Scott should play over Burgess and even Ellis
    Mike Mitchell should play over Hiram Eugene….let him learn on the field.

    But what ends up happening is we end up with a lot of character do-right guys that can’t keep up