OTA news and notes
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, June 17th, 2009 at 1:08 pm in Oakland Raiders.
News and notes from the last Raiders’ OTA session available to the media:
– The acquisition of Greg Ellis and the fate of defensive end Derrick Burgess are unrelated, coach Tom Cable said. But it’s worth noting Ellis lined up at Burgess’ left end spot with the first team on his second day as a Raider.
“It came about pretty quick last week, and once it got in motion, I think this was the place he wanted to be, and obviously, what we’re doing defensively, it fits him,” Cable said. “He started out as a 4-3 end and became an outside backer in a 3-4 and now he’s in a 4-3. It makes our team better. I said from the very beginning we’d try to do that, when possible, when it presented itself, so it’s a good deal for us.”
Can Ellis be an an every down player?
“It think he can be. You look a the film and he’s been doing that, albeit in a different position, this is a guy you would rely on to come in and compete to be a starter and all that,” Cable said. “He’s got so much left in terms of where he’s at physically, in terms of his body, his production, so again, just a positive for our team.
– Exactly what Ellis thinks about joining the Raiders isn’t clear. Several media members were hoping to ask quesitons, but instead he was walked off the field by a member of the club’s media relations staff and he never returned.
Whether Ellis didn’t feel like talking or the team didn’t want him to talk isn’t known. No explanation was given. My recollection of Ellis when the Cowboys trained at San Jose State during a week between a Raiders and 49ers game was that he was an extremely personable and agreeable interview subject.
– Ellis practiced with the Raiders for the first time Tuesday, but it wasn’t even mentioned by the club’s Twitter account, which did update fans on tryouts for the Junior Raiderettes.
– The seeds of Burgess’ discontent with the Raiders began when former personnel exec Mike Lombardi was looking in to a contract extension for the Pro Bowl defensive end. When Lombardi was fired, any chance for a deal was lost.
Lombardi assessed the Burgess situation as part of this National Football Post column, although he didn’t write about how it all started.
– Near the end of practice a fight broke out between Tyvon Branch and a lineman, believed to be Cooper Carlisle, and it took a scrum of players to separate them. Cable met with the team after the three horns signifying the end of practice and his first line had the team laughing.
When the Raiders came off the field, Branch was talking with defensive coordiantor John Marshall.
– Other than Ellis at left end, the Raiders finished the public portion of their last OTA much the way they have the past few weeks. No real surprises in among the starters. Khalif Barnes did get some work with the first team at left tackle, although not as much as Mario Henderson.
– Cable said the undrafted free agents which have shown the most this offseason are wide receiver Nick Miller and safety Jerome Boyd, a converted linebacker from Oregon.
– No truly horrible throws from Russell Wednesday, but nothing of note down the field, either, even though there was little in the way of red zone drills. Russell said afterward the plan is to get the receivers together for a gathering at an undisclosed location to work on their timing.
“We’re going to get the receivers and tight ends a week away from everything, just go along by ourselves and accomplish something that would make us a lot better during the year,” Russell said. Just work on our own, with nobody out there but us, get ready for camp, get ready for a new year.”
Cable was glad to hear it.
“I think it’s a big step. It’s kind of what we’ve been talking about all along, and to hear about that is obviously a positive from a coaches’ standpoint,” Cable said. “It will be good to hear how that goes and what his plan is.”
Sounds great, but we’ll probably never know which receivers show up, which ones are healthy enough to show up, and which ones are advised by their agents or the union to not show up.
– With Nnamdi Asomugha and Chris Johnson not attending, John Bowie got in work as a starting cornerback opposite Stanford Routt and got worked over by most every receiver who lined up against him.
– Rookie free agent wide receiver Shawn Bayes made the catch of the day with a dive inside the 5-yard line on a medium-depth throw from Garcia during a team drill. Bayes had the biggest downfield catch as well, a 30-yarder from Garcia against Jason Horton.
(It was enough to make you wonder if Cable meant to say Bayes, No. 87, as a standout, as opposed to Miller, who wears No. 89. Miller also caught a few passes).
– During a two-minute drill in a team session starting at the 20-yard line, Russell looked in the direction of Zach Miller four staright times, not getting a first down, and taking what the coaches ruled a sack on one play.
– In another drive which started at the 20, Russell underthrew a long lob to Johnnie Lee Higgins, with Bowie holding up in coverage, but beat a Thomas Howard blitz with a quick out to Miller for a first down on third-and-3 and converted a third-and-10 with a quick pass to his right to tight end Tony Stewart.
The drive eventually stalled when Russell stepped up on fourth-and-3 threw incomplete with two defenders closer than any Oakland receiver.
– Heyward-Bey and Mitchell weren’t the only rookies who came off the field. Louis Murphy hopped off the field on one play, with Cable saying afterward it was because of a cramp.
Regarding Heyward-Bey’s injury, Cable said, “As you saw, Heyward-Bey is sore. We don’t have any idea what that means because we haven’t had a chance to go look at him yet.”
Hard to know whether the hamstring injury is a fluke or something to be concerned about long-term. Heyward-Bey was regarded as a durable receiver at Maryland.
– Asked whether Mitchell’s absence and hamstring injury sets him back, Cable said, “It does. You can’t do anything about the rules. They are what they are. You have to abide by them so we have some work, some catch-up to do when we get to camp with him, certainly.”
– Perhaps not coincidentally, the Raiders defensive front refrained from jumping offsides with Tommy Kelly absent.
– Raiders players will largely be on their own from now until training camp begins. The reporting date is July 29. Players will be given things to work on and ostensibly a prescribed reporting weight.
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June 17th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
LAKERS!!!!
June 17th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
That was for you 666! lol
June 17th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Ellis lined up at LDE? Is he a LDE? Or is he another RDE playing LDE like Burgess?
I never watch the Cowgirls, so someone please fill me in.
June 17th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Well, of DHB is injury prone at least Al hasn’t signed him yet, lol. Waive his rights, lol.
June 17th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Good one Dakota!
June 17th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Thanks!
June 17th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
That’s what we want to see Russell! Now you just have to convince your WRs and TEs to show up and you better be there too! I could see Garcia showing up and standing on the field alone going WTF?
June 17th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
I guess everyone is at the Lakers’ parade.
June 17th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
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June 17th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Jerome Boyd and the 2 WR’s are the only ones impressing among the undrafted rookies.
kiss Desmond Bryant & Frantz Joseph goodbye!
no diamond in the rough for this year’s URFA crop
maybe a few practice squad scrubs however
June 17th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Javon Walker needs to show up for veteran leadership whether he can practice or not. That would go along way in establishng credibility as a mentor to the youngsters. Mr. Davis has been very good to Javon’s pocket book as well as loyal to him. He can start paying him back with little things like this.
June 17th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
To all the Raiders players:
- Don’t get into strangers cars
- Don’t walk around the strip drunk
- Don’t make it rain on anyone
- Take your friends with you if you have to go to Vegas
- Don’t hang around any ex-Bronco
- Stay away from Vegas completely
- Stay safe and away from trouble
See ya back in July.
June 17th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
That’s what we want to see Russell! Now you just have to convince your WRs and TEs to show up and you better be there too!
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Dakota,
the sad thing is… Garcia would complete more passes to guys like Jonathan Holland, Todd Watkins, Samie Parker, Arman Shields and Will Franklin than Russell would to Walker, Higgins, Schilens, Heyward-Bey and Murphy.
June 17th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
You guys can add some of your own for these kids to consider.
June 17th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Russell should be paying to fly out his TEs and WRs to practice with him. It’s more important for him that they all Gel together.
June 17th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Russell and Walker as well.
June 17th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 17th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Jerome Boyd and the 2 WR’s are the only ones impressing among the undrafted rookies.
kiss Desmond Bryant & Frantz Joseph goodbye!
no diamond in the rough for this year’s URFA crop
maybe a few practice squad scrubs however
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Slade Norris and Stryker Sulak might as well be URFAs too. Those guys are just as big long-shots to make the team….But they will get priority on the practice squad.
I could see them saying…look Stryker next year Burgess will be gone and we will expect you to step right in. Of course Gunther was probably told something similiar
June 17th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 17th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Jerome Boyd and the 2 WR’s are the only ones impressing among the undrafted rookies.
kiss Desmond Bryant & Frantz Joseph goodbye!
no diamond in the rough for this year’s URFA crop
maybe a few practice squad scrubs however
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Cable has every reason to NOT mention the UDFAs who are performing well since they can get snapped up by any team from our practice squad later. I think he actually mentioned the two most unattractive players to hide the real gems. Case in point, my insider in Alameda tells me Southwick is pushing Garcia for #2 QB, LOL.
June 17th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Did Frye take any snaps?
June 17th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
DHB is a prospect that lucked out and found a team to take him in the 1st round and pay him the #7 pick type money. What a lucky guy.
June 17th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Dakota would you be happy if the Clippers won?
June 17th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Louis Murphy will have a far more productive career than DHB. DHB at best will be a James Jett type of reciever.
June 17th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
The Clippers win? lmfao! I think the Raiders have a better chance of winning an NBA title than the Clippers do!
June 17th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
81rayda are you a Clippers fan?
June 17th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
“Raiders players will largely be on their own from now until training camp begins. The reporting date is July 29. Players will be given things to work on and ostensibly a prescribed reporting weight.”
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Somebody mentioned earlier why Russel & Co waited so late to get together privately. He even brought Peyton Manning into it, saying Manning would have started his program right after the last game.
Well that’s why!
June 17th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Rockstar,
But the bottom line is that Garcia is 39 yrs old and was released by four teams and seen as nothing but a backup by a fifth team.
Garcia’s ceiling is so low that one would have to crouch as they walked through the room.
Russell’s ceiling is so high…like valuted ceilings.
Playing Garcia will be like cotton candy. Get a little satisfaction now…only to have a bad stomach ache later.
Let Russell lead the team and have his workout with his players.
June 17th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Dakota how far are you from Libby Montana the town with the big asbestos scare!
June 17th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
June 17th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Dakota would you be happy if the Clippers won?
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At 113 years old, Dakota would be happy to be alive.
June 17th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Slade Norris and Stryker Sulak might as well be URFAs too. Those guys are just as big long-shots to make the team….But they will get priority on the practice squad.
I could see them saying…look Stryker next year Burgess will be gone and we will expect you to step right in. Of course Gunther was probably told something similiar
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Agreed. what 4 DE’s make the cut if Sulak & Gunheim are both practice squad guys? Burgess, Ellis, Scott & Richardson? I can’t see Derrick Gray making it …
Gunther? LOL! Isn’t he the DC for the Lions now?
June 17th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Garcia has no business anywhere near Russell’s workouts!
June 17th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Darrian Hayward Bust…What happens if we just waive him?
June 17th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
lol, good one Bo.
June 17th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
SnB Defense Says:
June 17th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Rockstar,
Garcia’s ceiling is so low that one would have to crouch as they walked through the room.
Russell’s ceiling is so high…like valuted ceilings.
Playing Garcia will be like cotton candy. Get a little satisfaction now…only to have a bad stomach ache later.
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Metaphor abuse!
June 17th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
KooKell
What I was saying was its a little late to be starting an off season workout program and the reason why Peyton and Harrison dominated for so long was because they probably started their off season workouts in February not mid June.
However better now then never!
June 17th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
666, I’m 924.7 miles from Libby according to mapquest.
June 17th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Do you have proof that Manning And Harrison started in February? I notice that you used the word probably.
June 17th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Probably meaning that you are assuming they did. You have no idea!
June 17th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
They certainly werent working out when Harrison was shooting people at night clubs and hiding guns in trash cans.
June 17th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
81ray-duh
No I don’t know if they worked out on February but they do hold the record for most TD’s between a QB and WR so they must have done some off season work ya think?
I was just using them as an example, the point is Russell needed to be thinking about his conditioning and his timing etc. all year around not just now in June. If you want to disagree with me then go ahead.
June 17th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Harrison also is one of the softest overrated WR’s of all times. Stop quoting things as if they are fact when you have no knowledge.
June 17th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
S&B: I’m not saying Jeff Garcia should start … I just said he’s probably more accurate as of today
it’s only mid June fellas
if Russell can’t hit the broad side of a barn in 2 months we should all be concerned. Right now we’re for looking for steady improvement and growth in Tollner/Hackett’s Air Coryell offense. so far we’ve seen a few baby steps here and there and thats good enough for me
June 17th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
“When talking about Manning, Caldwell adds another piece to the equation — constant work with his receivers, both during and after the season.
“They work together. And that’s the great thing,” Caldwell says. “I mean these guys work. Peyton works with those receivers consistently. In-season, out-of-season. They get to know one another extremely well. And it takes a familiarity with one another to be able to do the things that they do. They have a great feel for one another.”
What Manning calls his “chemistry” with Marvin Harrison has produced 82 TDs since 1998, second-most in NFL history. The duo expects to surpass the 85 by Jerry Rice and Steve Young for the 49ers from 1987-99 early in the season.”
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/colts/2005-08-10-sw-spotlight-manning_x.htm
June 17th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
So Dakota you think it might be a good idea for guys to work together in the off season you think there may be something there?
What about a magic wand? I have one we can just wave it and see if that works instead, then our guys could spend more time on the Las Vegas strip and less time doing the tedious task of getting into football shape during the off season.
Your thoughts?
June 17th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
666,
If they want to maximize their careers, of course they should be working out together in the offseason….but most players are not that “committed to excellence”. You just have to take one look at Russell’s gut to see that he doesn’t have the work ethic AT THIS POINT to become an NFL all-time great. You have to be really lazy to be 23 or 24 and be that out of shape. Hopefully he develops the necessary work ethic and his words today are just lip service until he actually goes out and does it. I have faith that he will do what is needed.
June 17th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
cant someone go hack up some swineflu on A.D so we dont have to watch another awful draft next year??
June 17th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Lakers riot: Walking through downtown Los Angeles after the NBA championship
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/06/lakers-celebrations.html
Shouldn’t the losers riot & the winners go home happy?
June 17th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
nope people are stupid..
Go Lakers!!
June 17th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
A.D Al Davis
A.D Awful Draft hmmm….
June 17th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
what do the last 8 posts have to do with the Raiders or football in general?
June 17th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
People look for any excuse to break and steal stuff TW!
June 17th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
wow TW. crazy link
Laker fans are dumber than donk fans
didn’t think that was possible!
June 17th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
GO LAKERS!
As the general used to say before I had him banned, OUTRO…
June 17th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
I’m excited to hear about Russell taking charge of that receiving corps. This is HUGE, and I don’t think Jerry made a big enough deal about it.
This is a major sign of maturity and commitment from Russell.
June 17th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Half our team is injured and they are only practicing.
Sheesh!
June 17th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Most people don’t realize it, but downtown is so full of wine bars these days that you can throw a rock and hit one. Somebody did, breaking another window. The owners of a different wine bar locked the doors and stood in front until late into the night. They didn’t seem to be celebrating.
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Winos huh?
June 17th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Shortly after the big win, revelers gathered outside Staples Center and, uh, trimmed trees to make kindling for a fire in the middle of the street. I know times are tough, but if you’re trying to survive these cold Southern California summers, it’s easier to put on a T-shirt.
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And landscapers.
June 17th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
See Spot D!ck Jane.
June 17th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
I’ll be right back, I’am going to go kick in the window at the local grocery store and then burn a sheriff’s vehicle to celebrate the Lakers’ victory.
June 17th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
I think we are starting to get a good feel on who really runs the defense in Oakland.
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“I know one thing,” he said. “What we’re going to have here in Cleveland is an attacking defense. It’s going to be an exciting defense, and we’re going to play great football.”
“The Browns’ defensive coordinator also said he’s going to mix things up. He even hinted that the Browns will use some variations of the 46 defense to create havoc on game days.”
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation/0-8-146/Ryan-has-high-hopes-for-Browns–D.html
June 17th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
I’m back. You should have seen the faces of the people in the grocery store when I yelled GOOOOOO LAKERS and smashed the window with a roundhouse kick! I didn’t get to burn a sheriff’s vehicle, but I did steal a 42″ flat screen TV from Pamida.
Hey, the Lakers won and I earned it!!!!
June 17th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Whats with all the injuries each year with our rookies? The team needs to fire this training staff because this is getting ridiculous.
June 17th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
I think we are starting to get a good feel on who really runs the defense in Oakland.
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what was Ryan supposed to say?
get ready for a defense that doesn’t blitz, has interchangable safeties and loves the prevent to “protect” leads in the 4th quarter?
Brayton’s 4 seasons in Oakland: DE, OLB, DE, DT
Sapp = DE in a 3-4 defense?
Huff = strong safety?
Schweigert = starter?
Washington = benched for Routt & upgraded with D Hall?
I’ll say this…
The color Turd Brown fits Rob Ryan very well
June 17th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Donte’ Stallworth also got 8yrs probation. How many NFL players can survive 8yrs?
June 17th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
I’m not a Kobe fan or a Lakers fan but my respect goes out to Kobe because he accomplished what he needed to. He was a Championship without the help of Shaq and deserves props. I’m also happy to see him put that in the face of Shaq for his stupid song. If anything, Kobe deserves it for being the hardest working and playing guy on the Olympic squad and thats not for the Lakers but for our country and I appreciate it.
June 17th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Also…I’m a big fan of Phil Jackson and getting that 10th was awesome.
June 17th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Stallworth didn’t have a record before this incident, so probation shouldn’t be a problem. Just go out and live by the rules and you will make it through probation.
June 17th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
see y’all tomorrow …
June 17th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
No problems!!! I was just thinking!! lol
June 17th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Eric Allen was just on ESPN and said that no one liked Gannon during the week b/c he was always stealing the pool balls, dragging guys into the film room, etc. But when it came to Sunday they loved the guy b/c he was prepared.
Maybe, just maybe, Russell taking the receivers out away from camp is a start. Maybe Garcia is the poke in the side he needed. Maybe, just maybe.
June 17th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
I’ve been with my lady for 8 years 4 months. I think I know what marriage is like by now.
June 17th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Whats up Mista?
June 17th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Ryan Leaf has been arrested by boarder officials…whew, we can all unlock our medicine cabinets again!
June 17th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
24,
I disagree sir, that paper changes everything. IMHO
It’s doesn’t make things better or worse, but it does change things.
Only my opinion, and I do wish you the best sir.
June 17th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Dakota,
LMAO @ 93
June 17th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
8 years and 4 months? She is going to dump your ass soon, lol.
June 17th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
LMAO @ 94
June 17th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
LMAO at #76 LHAO at #94 which is gone
June 17th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
I digress #94 is now #72
June 17th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Raider O – Thank you. I think we make a bigger deal out of the whole marriage thing mentally and thats what causes the problems more than anything. We start over thinking or she starts over thinking and things go down from there.
June 17th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Didn’t mean to interrupt, carry on.
June 17th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Stallworth=2 years house arrest and 10 years probation.
June 17th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Oh and paid an undisclosed of $$$$ 2 victim’s family.Plus community service,driving privilege revoked 4 life
June 17th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
I’m still waiting for post 94!!
June 17th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
I’m sure that will bring him back!!
June 17th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
If he wasn’t drunk, I wouldn’t care!!! 30 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??
June 17th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
the victims family would rather have a chunk-o-change,(no offense O)and move on than incarcerate Stallworth
June 17th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Raider O
You must be the troublemaker in here. Everytime I see the comments being deleated you seem always to be in the mix. So the question is are you the mod, or just unlucky?
June 17th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
also there were reports that victim ran out into street so a quick ending was sought by all.
June 17th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
You know who, must have a Bushmaster 2000. Cause the posts sure are getting clipped, in here today.
June 17th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
4eva,
I’m not offended. lol
If the family is happy with the money, or even forgave him!! Who am I to judge, but the law failed!!!
June 17th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Dell,
I’m not the Mod, I believe in free speech! lol
Unlucky sir, very unlucky!! I’m married. lol
June 17th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
I dont know about other places but…here in floritucky the judge gives GREAT lee-way 2 a victims whishes as 2 punishment.If the family agrees than justice WAS served as the family seeking justice is satisfied.Justice has many degrees here in floritucky
June 17th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Raider O
My most recent comment is awaiting moderation, due to a few guys who would comment on this blog.
I guess we can’t even print their moniker anymore.
FREE DIRTY!
June 17th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Raider Dell…
Buddy Guy, is going to be in Saratoga, Ca. 8-15-09.
Is that in your area?
June 17th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
909
I wasn’t sure if I could go at this time. I have seen Buddy Guy a few times and he is GREAT!
Saratoga is three hours from where I live.
June 17th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Dell,
Do you think I’m a troublemaker?!
June 17th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Raider O
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
June 17th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
June 17th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
I bet Garcia’s wife is still hot the day after she gives birth…..look at this perfect rump!
http://media.photobucket.com/image/jeff%20garcias%20wife/GeoFla/carmella2.jpg
^^^^^^
Yeah Carmella is definitely a hottie….
Freakin Garcia….that lucky bastard. LOL
DHB and Mitchell need to hydrate themselves and just stretch more along with pacing themselves in practice.
June 17th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
I love Buddy Guy!
His club is on 7th and Wabash and right next to his blues club is a topless place!
That’s where I hung out when I was in Chicago.
June 17th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
SNB666
That’s why you are the MAN!
A blues club right next to a topless place. What more could any man need in life. Other than a few beers.
June 17th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Raider Dell..
Bummer, 3hrs. is a haul.
He’s playing down here on the 11th., at the Coach House, in San Juan Capistrano. Great small venue. I’m planning on going.
Buddy, is The Real Deal. Have seen him a few times myself.
June 17th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
4evaRaider Says:
June 17th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Stallworth=2 years house arrest and 10 years probation.
^^^^^^
He paid off the family of the victim for a reduced sentence.
Unreal….
June 17th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Raider O
I need help with my dinner reservation tonight. I trust your judgement.
i want steak and fish tonight for our dinner out, the wife wants Italian food. Italian food means MIMI’S and my choice is either Ruth Chris, or a quick drive to Outback, what’s my selling point for my choice.
June 17th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Dell,
Good!!!
I’ll call you after a few years. I should have my CPA by then, and some exp!! lol
June 17th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
The secret to life:
Blues, boobies, and beer!
June 17th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Speaking of ice COLD beer, sounds good to me!
Take care, all…
June 17th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
909
My thought someday is to find a location for a blues show that the few of us can attend. I’m thinking of RaiderDogg, SNB666, You, and a few others in here that have liked our musical taste.
We should try to find the time to make it happen.
I was sad a few weeks back of the death of Koko Taylor. I’m getting old, I remember her like it was yesterday as a young man.
June 17th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Dell..
I don’t think stopping by Micky D’s for a filet ‘o fish, would fly, while in route to Ruth Chris.
June 17th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Dell..
That would be a fun time for all.
Koko, could work a room. Great entertainer. RIP.
ice COLD beer awaits, take care.
June 17th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Sell her on what you want by a few things:
1- is she into healthy food? Good sellng point for fish over Italian.
2- if that doesn’t work, then sell her the idea of a better dinner later.
Why have Italian at Mimis tonight, when we can go to ( a better resturant) later!!
Remember:
Ask, Identify, overcome, and don’t ask for the sale.
June 17th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Raider O
Thanks! I appreciate your insight, and as a great salesman you’re probaly always right.
I’ll catch you later, and remember numbers don’t lie, only the people trying to tell you it doesn’t add up.
June 17th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Dell,
That’s why I love numbers, they don’t lie.
I’m not always right, but damn close!! lol
Enjoy you dinner sir, and have a great night.
June 17th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Great 1st rounder, Al.
June 17th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
So there it is folks. Just what the Raider Nation has been waiting for. JaMarcus says that he and the receivers are to meet up on their own to work on patterns, timing, what have you.
And what is jerry mc’s aside? – “…if their agents and the players union let them.”
Jerry, do you have to ask your newspaper what you do with your free time?
In a supposedly free country men and women are FREE to gather and to do whatever they want during their FREE time.
I guess you would not have lasted long at the Indianapolis Star questioning whether Peyton and Marvin had any right to work out during their FREE time.
June 17th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
RaiderDell,
you still hereabouts today? just wanted to say Hey!
June 17th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
I see a lot of Scarecrows in here (re: Wizard of Oz …sing it with me …”If I only had a brain”).
Calling DHB a bust bec he pulled a hammy? I mean come the fk on! Thats like calling ZM a bust bec he had to get sports hernia surgery.
First you rail JR bec he made off throws in practice – PRACTICE! Now this?!?!
Tough crowd.
June 17th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Good thing for JR trying to get the guys together. I just wonder how many can he now considering most relevant WRs are injured or nursing soreness.
June 17th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Practice!!!! PRACTICE!!!!!
June 17th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Saint,
I’m going to your fav store, Home depot!! lol
Later Nation.
June 17th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
http://www.allamericanspeakers.com/sportspeakers/photos/Mike_Shanahan.jpg
June 17th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Terrapin,
it is an instant satifaction/angst era. these same people, if they had keyboards and internet would have been crapping all over Kenny because he sat behind Lamonica and Blanda for a few years. They would have been crapping all over the acquisition of Plunkett because he needed to regroup on the bench for a couple of years. these same people would have been moaning that Horseteeth, Aikman, Peyton and Eli were BUSTS after their first NFL years under center because they did not win 14 games and a Super Bowl.
Screw the impatience mongers.
JRuss is learning and approaching his game as he should.
June 17th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Then they gossip all day about their wives. lol
June 17th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
My Dad would be embarrassed because I can’t hang with you guys on the blues talk, but pops was pretty well known amongst the bay area blues scene as an accomplished bassist.
He played a ton with Ron Thompson (who played at my dads funeral) , and was a “Resistor” on Thompson’s grammy nominated album in the mid 80’s. Ron is a bad azz.
http://www.rtblues.com/
June 17th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Hey Vegas
Is MMA putting Boxing out of business down there?
June 17th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Not really, this town loves to promote boxing, because that is big money people who attend. MMA just brings a bunch of tough guys in tight shirts, with no REAL money.
MMA might get them on quantity, but the quality is in boxing. Hatton-Pacquaio was the biggest event in this city, since, well, DeLaHoya-Mayweather.
June 17th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Interesting. I can’t even name the Heavyweight Champ in Boxing. But yeah, I remember. I was at the Hearns/Duran fight
Everybody was in town.
I guess MMA hasn’t mainstreamed yet.
June 17th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Don’t get me wrong, MMA is huge and sells out everytime. But if your the MGM what do you want, Joe Rogan and Josh Duhamel coming to your place or Denzel Washington and David Beckham? Boxing will always big king in Las Vegas. Unfortunately, it may be the only place that is true.
June 17th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Kool you gotta love Jamarcus gathering the guys for some individual work, away from team-activities. Even if it not up to the standards of Payton-Harrison and Montana-Rice type of work, baby steps in the right direction is huge. If the kid would just leave out the bling and the furs, you could almost say he “gets it”. Getting closer by the week, IMO.
June 17th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Yeah, very good to hear. He’s been there all off-season, and this is something that his critics should take notice of. I would also hope that he makes himself available to the media a bit more, so that the fans can get a feel for him personally. He’s left the stage entirely to his critics.
June 17th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Ass long as their little getaway is not in Vegas.
June 17th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
MMA is alright….I need a great card to really get me to go out of my way to watch.
June 17th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
I met a young Raider employee at my Open House 3 weeks ago. I couldn’t help myself from giggling. He confirmed in my mind what I’d heard earlier from a LSU recent grad I met at my barbershop. That is, he need’s to mature.
June 17th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
vegas raider Says:
June 17th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Not really, this town loves to promote boxing, because that is big money people who attend. MMA just brings a bunch of tough guys in tight shirts, with no REAL money.
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Or more like juiced up wannabe tough guys huh?
June 17th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
I’ve become a fan of MMA. I watch it on Spike TV. Royce Gracie, Anderson Silva, Chuck Lidell, Uriah Faber……..those guys are skilled.
June 17th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
We don’t have any trailer parks in Alameda.
June 17th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 17th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Ass long as their little getaway is not in Vegas.
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What’s up with all the bashing of Vegas. I read RaiderMight going off on Vegas in #11. D-Mac was out here last weekend, for a Warren Moon charity event, and was spotted out on the town and at Tao nightclub. No problems. Javon was trying to score blow from two convicts, BY HIMSELF, when your doing that, on a weekday no less, the end result could have happened in any big city in the country.
June 17th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
I didn’t mean to dis Vegas, it’s just that some people can’t handle it. Walker couldn’t and JaMarcus is country as a chickencoop.
June 17th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
True that, honestly, I would be a tad scared if Jamarcus came out here, especially without some teammates. Never read of him being out here, and he usually makes sure he is “scene” if you know what I mean. I have read of D-Mac in town a few times, same with Fargas (once together), so maybe he could roll out with them to get acclimated.
Or maybe he should just stay in Napa, actually.
June 17th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
scene=seen
Awfully slow in here tonight, what’s going on Nation?
June 17th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Speaking of McFadden, read this little interview with him the other day, and it may be hands down the least informative interview I ever read. Jezzus Darren, can you give us a little!!!
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/extramustard/06/15/darren-mcfadden-road-warriors/index.html
June 17th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Lakers!! Now I am ready for the Raiders to get started.
June 17th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Damn, that the funniest interview I’ve ever seen. And the SI idiot didn’t help either.
June 17th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
WOW! Over 20 posts without a Laker reference….impressive.
June 17th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Wow, DHB is really making a great first impression!! LOL! Hmmm… sign of things to come??? Nooooooo, he headed to Canton, right Priest?
It was ALL Rob Ryans fault, riiight?? Wonder why he never put in a 46 D while he was in Oaktown? Hmmmm…. Its a mystery. John Marshall will change EVERYTHING!!
June 17th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Mr. Happy!
June 17th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Oh, sorry. I like the Greg Ellis signing. There you go.
June 17th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
He’s not Mr. Happy. He may be Mr. Happy’s brother “Slap” Happy or his other brother “Trigger” Happy. I think he’s trigger due to all the angst and biting sarcasm involved in his posts.
June 17th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
That’s pretty good Cornfield!!
Hey, the surf’s gotta be up somewhere!
June 17th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Hello my friends, I’m back!
June 17th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Post 146, Is that a real interview??!!!
June 17th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Was that an SI reporter, or some HS kid.
You have an NFL player with great college career, and you ask him about women and hotels??!!!! Are there any more people out there that take pride of what they do, and try to give a great finished product????!!!!!!! Worst interview ever!!!!
June 17th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Take pride in what you do, your work is a reflection of you! IMO
June 17th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
It kills me when people say:
“I can’t” without even trying
“I don’t know how” instead of asking or learning.
“Thats the best I can do”, and it’s not!!!
Take pride in youself and your work, and earn your respect!!
June 17th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
R8,
Where are you bro??
June 17th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Anyone!!!!!
Hello!!!
June 17th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
# Dude Says:
June 17th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
It was ALL Rob Ryans fault, riiight?? Wonder why he never put in a 46 D while he was in Oaktown? Hmmmm…. Its a mystery. John Marshall will change EVERYTHING!!
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Actually, Ryan did run a 46 here on more than one occasion. But, if you knew what you were talking about, you would’ve known that.
June 17th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Here are my thoughts in the Raiders:
1- I like the young weapons on offense, but I worry about the Oline. Without them, these weapons can’t do much.
2- I understand that Marshall is a great coach and teacher, but we only added a few players. Was it enough to help one of the worst teams against the run?!
3- I didn’t like Cable’s play calling that much, and he didn’t add an OC to call plays.
Maybe he was a rookie and needs time, I’ll give him this year to see if he can call plays, or he needs a play caller in the 2010 season.
4- I don’t worry about JR. I think he can be great, if we have stability. Cable needs a few years, and not be a 1yr wonder.
5- DMC and Bush need to have around 400-450 runs this season. Atleast 400!!
6- Miller should be free to catch and make plays, and he should have a great year. With Gonzo out, maybe a PB.
June 17th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
On the Raiders, sorry!
June 17th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
What do you think Nation?
June 17th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
I’m a boxing fan, and I didn’t know Vladimir was still the champ!!
Too bad for boxing, heavyweight was it’s bread and butter!
June 17th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Here O, maybe I can offer my opinion on some of your statements:
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# Raider O Says:
June 17th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Here are my thoughts in the Raiders:
1- I like the young weapons on offense, but I worry about the Oline. Without them, these weapons can’t do much.
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Exactly. Hence why I wanted to draft Eugene Monroe and all 315 cut pounds of pass blocking fury. I guess we will find out soon enough if Henderson and Barnes can cut it.
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2- I understand that Marshall is a great coach and teacher, but we only added a few players. Was it enough to help one of the worst teams against the run?!
From Earlier Today
# Oakglenn Says:
June 17th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
The Raider defense has lost games 13-9, 12-10, two years ago, and lost one 17-6 last year when they got 4 Int’s against a 12-4 team. And they still lost! We have guys on the defensive side of the ball that can play. There is no doubt about that. So why did we give up nearly a 300 spot on the ground to Atlanta and New England??? Easy answer: Last year, our offense was soooooo poor, that teams knew if they could get up on us early, we had no chance of coming back ever and they could just pound the rock at us. And that is exactly what teams did. If you have ever played football, it gets to be a real drag seeing a 240 lb guy with a head of steam, or a 315lb linemen running your way to smash you over and over and over again. Until we can prove we can score points, come back on teams, score TD’s in the red zone instead of FG’s, history is doomed to repeat itself.
3- I didn’t like Cable’s play calling that much, and he didn’t add an OC to call plays.
Maybe he was a rookie and needs time, I’ll give him this year to see if he can call plays, or he needs a play caller in the 2010 season.
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Actually Cable has been VERY succesful as an OC at both Colorado and UCLA. He was inventive, imaginative, and utilized his personnel very well. The reason he went 3-3 in his last six games, was HE TOOK OVER THE PLAY CALLING.
4- I don’t worry about JR. I think he can be great, if we have stability. Cable needs a few years, and not be a 1yr wonder.
Exactly!
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5- DMC and Bush need to have around 400-450 runs this season. Atleast 400!!
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If they can pick up the protection schemes, that will most likely happen
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6- Miller should be free to catch and make plays, and he should have a great year. With Gonzo out, maybe a PB.
One can only hope
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June 17th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
Oak,
BHP said the same thing about Cable’s play calling. I hope you guys are right, we will know this season. I liked a few of his calls, but a few plays on 1st and 2nd were really bad,Fargas, Bush thing, and a few other things.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:07 am
Good night sir, and thank you for sharing your opinion.
Later Nation.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:30 am
Go Go Garcia!!!
June 18th, 2009 at 4:29 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
June 18th, 2009 at 4:45 am
So…RaiderO, how and where was din-dins last night??? =)
June 18th, 2009 at 5:45 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
What’s up 4eva? I think that is a good sign that Russell wants to get himself and the receivers on the same page. He’s showing leadership, at least…
June 18th, 2009 at 5:49 am
WASHINGTON – Democratic leaders have committed to enacting by the end of the year the biggest regulatory revision to the U.S. financial system since the 1930s — an undertaking so ambitious it has some lawmakers worried about missteps
well welll wellll
Time 2 REEL ‘em back in!!!
June 18th, 2009 at 5:54 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,4EVA,HWNDR..
June 18th, 2009 at 5:58 am
good morning Hwnrdr, 4eva …
June 18th, 2009 at 5:59 am
good morning Dirt Lot …
June 18th, 2009 at 5:59 am
Thats a very welcome sign INDEED Hwnrdr!!! Just the sign we were ALL looking&waiting 4!!!.No more doubts no more excuses.MAN-O-MAN ITS THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE VERY BEST OF TIMES 2 COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GIMME THE WHOLE DAMN BARREL OF KOOL-AID
WHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
June 18th, 2009 at 6:00 am
Morning ALL!!!
June 18th, 2009 at 6:05 am
Hell yeah Jruss gonna stuff it down everyone’s throats. Jruss,Dmac,Bush,Chaz,Miller,JLH and if DHB or Murphy in those mulit-wr sets oh yeah it’s on. I like branch getting in people’s face you’re a Raider young man and don’t you take s*$t from nobody not even another Raider!!!!
June 18th, 2009 at 6:05 am
and I WAS WRONG ABOUT JMAC AND I’LL BE THE 1ST 2 ADMIT IT.MAN TALK ABOUT BEING SOOOO HAPPY ABOUT BEING WRONG ABOUT JMAC.HE REALLY DOES GET IT NOW WAY 2 GO JMAC
I LOVE YOU MAN
June 18th, 2009 at 6:06 am
ROCKSTAR,GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK ,HAVE MISSED YOUR INPUT.AM TRULY SORRY ABOUT YOUR LOSS,YOU WILL GET THROUGH OK.GLAD 2 HAVE BACK POSTING AGAIN..
June 18th, 2009 at 6:07 am
GIMME THE WHOLE DAMN BARREL OF KOOL-AID
WHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
OHHHHH YYYEAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!
Good Morning NMF,
I love the fact that Branch got into peoples faces, too…he’s sending a message to “let’s get it on!!!”
June 18th, 2009 at 6:08 am
Good Morning Rockstar…AM crew is back…except for LMN…anyone heard from him?
June 18th, 2009 at 6:09 am
SnB Defense posts:
“I know one thing,” he said. “What we’re going to have here in Cleveland is an attacking defense. It’s going to be an exciting defense, and we’re going to play great football.”
“The Browns’ defensive coordinator also said he’s going to mix things up. He even hinted that the Browns will use some variations of the 46 defense to create havoc on game days.”
My reply:
what was Ryan supposed to say?
get ready for a defense that doesn’t blitz, has interchangable safeties and loves the prevent to “protect” leads in the 4th quarter?
Brayton’s 4 seasons in Oakland: DE, OLB, DE, DT
Sapp = DE in a 3-4 defense?
Huff = strong safety?
Schweigert = starter?
Washington = benched for Routt & upgraded with D Hall?
I’ll say this…
The color Turd Brown fits Rob Ryan very well
Dude says:
It was ALL Rob Ryans fault, riiight?? Wonder why he never put in a 46 D while he was in Oaktown? Hmmmm…. Its a mystery. John Marshall will change EVERYTHING!!
Oakglenn says:
Actually, Ryan did run a 46 here on more than one occasion. But, if you knew what you were talking about, you would’ve known that.
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What does the AM crew think about this ???
June 18th, 2009 at 6:09 am
Good Morning Dirt Lot…sorry didn’t mean to forget you.
June 18th, 2009 at 6:11 am
thanks Dirt Lot. you’re one classy guy
good morning NMF …
June 18th, 2009 at 6:15 am
Whether or not it was all Rob Ryan still remains to be seen. I don’t think that he had what it took to be a D Coord when he arrived here in Oakland. I am not sure if he instilled the famous “46″ D here. I did not see it…however, I was always sick of that dam “prevent”…
June 18th, 2009 at 6:15 am
someone posted yesterday that Mearsk,the shipping line that LMN is a security officer for is cutting back and laying-off.Dosent mean he got laid-off but he posted a lot from work.hopefully he just dont have time 2 post
June 18th, 2009 at 6:18 am
YEH-YEH HWNDR,U ARE ALWAY’S LEANING ME OUT.LOL GOOD MORNING NOMOREFARGAS. ROB RYAN-JON GRUDEN-WARREN SAPP,ALL GONE SO WE WASH OUR HANDS OF THESE CLOWNS AND FORGET ‘EM..
June 18th, 2009 at 6:20 am
I dropped by the Raiders’ practice Wednesday, the next-to-last workout in this four-week funfest, and I couldn’t scribble down the news fast enough. Where to begin?
– How about with JaMarcus Russell? The big fella dropped a bombshell, announcing that between the last day of spring practice and the beginning of training camp July 30 he plans to host his own passing-game minicamp at an undisclosed location.
The rap on Russell – from his former Raiders coach, current coach, Rich Gannon, and other insiders – has been that he isn’t exactly a workaholic.
I asked Russell whose idea the minicamp was.
“I talked to coach (Tom Cable) about it,” Russell said. “Sometimes they have the rookies come back here for a week, and instead of them coming back here, I decided we’ll do it on our own. … Get somewhere where nobody knows where you’re at and go and do your own thing.”
This is an ideal time for Russell to buff up his image and his game, considering that Jeff Garcia is competing like a maniac for the starting quarterback job, doing everything but letting the air out of Russell’s tires.
Who will be invited to the secret camp?
“Everybody that plays receiver and wears the (Raiders’) uniform.”
What about other quarterbacks? (That’s how I phrased my question, rather than asking, “Will Jeff Garcia be invited?”)
“I don’t know,” Russell said. “Jeff just had a newborn, and Bruce (Gradowski) and (Charlie) Frye, we’re working on that.”
Cable likes the idea. Players working out even though the team can’t make them work out? Quarterback of the Future acting leaderish? What’s not to like?
“Yeah, I think it’s a big step” for Russell, Cable said. “It’s kind of what we’ve been talking about all along …”
A cynic would say Cable loves Russell’s camp idea because Cable must start Russell, on orders from Al Davis, even if Garcia plays rings around Russell in training camp (as Garcia appeared to do Wednesday), in which case Cable would like to use Russell’s new work ethic as part of the explanation/rationale.
-Scott Ostler (SF Chronicle)
June 18th, 2009 at 6:21 am
I don’t mean to Dirt Lot…but you’re right, we must wash our hands of these guys now and move on!
June 18th, 2009 at 6:24 am
Debra Saunders of the SF Chronicle looks like a man … terrible article on Palin tuesday as well
June 18th, 2009 at 6:28 am
Obama: More benefits for gay workers
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sickening
June 18th, 2009 at 6:29 am
sorry. back to football!
what do you guys think of Keith Davis’ comments earlier this week?
June 18th, 2009 at 6:31 am
JUST MESSING WITH U HWNDR, THERE WILL BE WRITER’S WITH AGENDA’S ( NOTHING NEW THERE ) WHO WILL PUSH THE JEFF GARCIA IS OUT PLAYING RUSSELL THING NO MATTER WHAT.JUST HOPE MR.RUSSELL CAN KEEP THE HEADLINE’S FROM BOTHERING HIS PLAY IN ANY WAY…
June 18th, 2009 at 6:37 am
John Bowie got in work as a starting cornerback opposite Stanford Routt and got worked over by most every receiver who lined up against him.
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you guys think this guy will still be on scholarship due to the Randy Moss trade? competition seems light for those 4th and 5th CB spots anyway, unless we pitch a few corners and keep a few extra safeties to use on special teams & the dime package
June 18th, 2009 at 6:38 am
That will be his ultimate growth…he MUST be the man this year!
June 18th, 2009 at 6:40 am
I think Al must accept this loss and move on. John Bowie has never played a down yet, and now getting worked over by all receivers? Hmmm…unfortunately Bowie will always be remembered for “the Randy Moss trade”…
June 18th, 2009 at 6:45 am
here are my assumed locks at DB:
CB – Asomugha, Johnson, Routt, Miller (ST)
FS – Eugene, Huff
SS – Mitchell, Branch
battling for one roster spot: John Bowie, Darrick Brown, Jason Horton, Keith Davis, Jerome Boyd
June 18th, 2009 at 6:55 am
Just read bill simmons story on Kobe what a hater , why not mention only reason the celts got a ring was a bs trade between ainge and mchale so sick of boston fans, Tuck game you new england pieces of crap TuckGame we beat you in the snow in you’re house and eveyone knows it had it been any team other than the Raiders there would have been national outrage.
June 18th, 2009 at 7:00 am
If Bowie loses his scholarship I’m guessing Keith Davis will make the team because he’s a beast on special teams and both of the other strong safeties on the roster have little to no experience
Huff & Branch will both be back up safeties at some point during the season and both played CB in college so they can also provide depth there
However, they called Darrick Brown “little Willie” in camp last year, because he was all over the place making plays. A comparison to Willie Brown is huge for any young DB! Never saw much action in games though, sort of like Todd Watkins last year
June 18th, 2009 at 7:01 am
NMF: the Celtics with a healthy Garnett would have destroyed the Fakers in the finals
June 18th, 2009 at 7:03 am
Whatever Rockstar, the Lakers and a healthy Bynum and Ariza would have destroyed the Celtics in the finals last season. See how that game is played?
June 18th, 2009 at 7:04 am
WORK CALL’S,GOOD DAY 2 EVERYONE.GOOD TO HAVE EVERYONE BACK AND POSTING.. SOMEONE PUT AN A.P.B. OUT ON L M N .
June 18th, 2009 at 7:12 am
Doesn’t matter…a non conservative Gruden and the game wouldn’t have gotten to that “Tuck”ing point…
Dakota, I thought that Ariza came to the Lakers this year in a trade with Orlando? Haha and he destroyed his old team…funny how that plays out!
June 18th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Hwnrdr,
No, the Lakers got Ariza last season and after about a week or two he hurt his foot.
June 18th, 2009 at 7:24 am
Oh…thanks for that correction. but, he did help put the dagger into Orlando. Oh well, that is the nature of the business.
June 18th, 2009 at 7:26 am
Got Ariza last year for Cook & Evans & watch out for shannon brown next year he can ball.
June 18th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Bring on the Celts with ariza and bynum healthy we destroy them, luke walton was guarding Ray Allen and Pierece thats crazy. Ariza”pippen” would be the biggest factor.
June 18th, 2009 at 7:32 am
Well…KG did predict a ‘10 championship. however, they have a lot of miles on those 3 anyways. I think that it will come down to Celts, Magic, and LeBron in the East. Lakers need to figure out who to keep.
Anyways…back to Raider football…why is our rookies hurting? Faster pace?
June 18th, 2009 at 7:40 am
yeah Hwnrdr this is da BIG LEAGUES.mucho fasto =)
June 18th, 2009 at 7:47 am
Love your Spanglish, 4eva. I hope Mitchell and DHB can prove all those draft haters wrong this year.
June 18th, 2009 at 7:50 am
Sorry about your loss RaiderRockstar, Glad to see you’re back sturring up the pot even though the Celtics are on the decline due to age and injuries. They had their window and it is now closed.
June 18th, 2009 at 7:52 am
that’s stirring, what’s wrong with my spellcheck?
June 18th, 2009 at 7:54 am
Lot of times these rookies don’t realize how much harder it is in the NFL this ain’t no part time job and must learn they have to step it up in fitness its early if DHB starts missing training camp then i’ll worry.
June 18th, 2009 at 8:01 am
I agree, NMF.
Good Morning Exla!
Well, all bosses are in…you all have a great day, Nation!!!
June 18th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Glad to see you’re back sturring up the pot even though the Celtics are on the decline due to age and injuries. They had their window and it is now closed.
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thanks exla. good to be back. this blog isn’t fun or even interesting when everybody agrees and nobody gives a different perspective. I like to shake things up a bit. I’m not a Celtics fan. I was an Allen Iverson fan before he signed with the Pistons (there isn’t a team I hate MORE in the league)
June 18th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Damn basketball talk in here again.
Basketball is the gayest sport ever it should never even be mentioned in the same breath as football.
Don’t they have a 1-800 support line for you guys?
June 18th, 2009 at 8:35 am
Im telling you what, I hated the DHB pick and I hate it even more right now…I have a REALLY bad feeling that this guy is going to be the next Carlos Francis…
I ruptured my Hamstring and I couldn’t sprint for 6 months. This isn’t a hamstring rupture, but DHB is going to be pu$$yfooting around with this thing for the entire year-Mark My words-
Im not going doomsday-simply predicting…
We had much bigger needs than this guy, and we took a chance, and so far–It ain’t been worth the considerable gamble we took..
DHB better show something and soon, otherwise I have a feeling that he is going to be run out of town by all us “Die Hards”——Its one thing to be hurt, but give us SOMETHING that says you were worth that pick….
Im afraid we won’t see ANYTHING from this guy all year…
Mitchell—That goes for you to Bud……
June 18th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Silver: I’d take basketball over tennis, hockey, bowling, nascar, ping pong, badminton, rugby, golf or even baseball.
June 18th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Some 50 year old man made over 5,000 free throws in a row but the NBA stars cant even shoot 50% from the free throw line.
That is such a joke!
June 18th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Hola to all the pinche Raider fans…
Does anybody believe Russell’s get together with the WRs is actually his idea? I’m sure Tollner and Hackett were blindsided…
June 18th, 2009 at 8:37 am
RaiderRockstar, See how easy that was. LMFAO
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Damn basketball talk in here again.
June 18th, 2009 at 8:38 am
RaiderRockstar
I would rather watch women’s curling than basketball!
June 18th, 2009 at 8:41 am
MG: Darrius Heyward Bey = Carlos Francis? yowsa!
harsh words bro. DHB was going to be a 1st round pick by some NFL team, just not a Top 10 pick. The Raiders don’t care about “reaches”. They zero in on one player and go get him. He’s only a “reach or bust” if he doesn’t meet expectations.
Right now DHB is even with Crabtree, Maclin and every other rookie WR that got drafted. He just going to make a lot more money
If DHB can’t become a #1 WR in 2010 or 2011 then we can start trashing the guy. It’s not even preseason yet fellas. Give the kid a break. He hasn’t even signed a friggin contract yet!
June 18th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Damn basketball talk in here again.
Basketball is the gayest sport ever it should never even be mentioned in the same breath as football.
Don’t they have a 1-800 support line for you guys?
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It seems only one person here needs a support line…
GO LAKERS!
And so what if some guy made 5000+ free throws! Did he do 10 minutes of vigorous exercise after each two shots? Was he sore from banging with nine other 250+ lb. men?
Your comparison is akin to saying the best miniputt player is a better golfer than Tiger.
So guys, where do you think LeBron will sign for 2011?
June 18th, 2009 at 8:43 am
If you took all the other sports and added them up they still could not equal Football collectively.
It is the only sport for me all other sports are for sissies.
I take that back MMA and boxing are not sissy sports those guys are hard core athletes.
June 18th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Some 50 year old man made over 5,000 free throws in a row but the NBA stars cant even shoot 50% from the free throw line.
That is such a joke!
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They brought this guy in years back when Shaq was a Laker to help him. His % went down.
June 18th, 2009 at 8:46 am
the best miniputt player is a better golfer than Tiger.
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I would dominate Tiger Woods on the Wii !
June 18th, 2009 at 8:47 am
where do you think LeBron will sign for 2011?
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New York Knicks or Chicago Bulls
June 18th, 2009 at 8:48 am
NFL,NBA,MLB,NCAA FB,NCAA BB,BOXING,MMA sorry i am an American who grew up loving all the major sports and I respect all these athletes.
June 18th, 2009 at 8:49 am
LeBron James needs a supporting cast.
even Kobe Bryant has Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom and Derrick “clutch” Fisher
June 18th, 2009 at 8:49 am
RRS,
How does a normally sane man become a fan of a disgrace like Allen Iverson?
June 18th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Bo Heart attack Jackson you missed the point completely so let me spell it out for you in a simple manner.
In the 70’s Jack Sikma shot 98% from the line and in the 80’s Isiah Thomas shot over 90% from the line.
Today’s athletes like Shaq and LeBron are barely over 60% they just don’t care about the fundamentals, they want to run, jump and dunk all day and that’s boring to watch for me.
The NBA sucks, when one guy scores 50 points how self indulgent is that it would be like watching Tom Cruise talk about himself all day.
Women’s Curling is a better sport in my opinion.
June 18th, 2009 at 8:53 am
MG: Darrius Heyward Bey = Carlos Francis? yowsa!
harsh words bro. DHB was going to be a 1st round pick by some NFL team, just not a Top 10 pick. The Raiders don’t care about “reaches”. They zero in on one player and go get him. He’s only a “reach or bust” if he doesn’t meet expectations.
Right now DHB is even with Crabtree, Maclin and every other rookie WR that got drafted. He just going to make a lot more money
If DHB can’t become a #1 WR in 2010 or 2011 then we can start trashing the guy. It’s not even preseason yet fellas. Give the kid a break. He hasn’t even signed a friggin contract yet!
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I hear ya Rockstar–I would just feel a whole lot better if this guy threw us a bone and showed up ready to roll instead of “Hold my hand, my hamstring seems to be hurting for the first time in my whole life”
Just has a touch of primadonna to me..Trust me I hope Im wrong–we have WAYYY to much invested in this guy to pi$$ away that pick–but so far-Undrafted free agents on our team have done more..
I know what your saying though, it is REALLY early-I just wanted to lay the gauntlet down and say that DHB you ain’t done CRAP so far–You either Mitchell–Back up with your actions that which your Mouth hath put forth–otherwise that’s all it is, just talk..I was raised in a way that if your gonna shoot your mouth off–You better be able to back it up otherwise, you lose every ounce of Credibility you ever had….
June 18th, 2009 at 8:55 am
BSJ – you said just 2 weeks ago none of by posts were “lucid” right? LOL
I’ve been a fan since he carried the 76ers to the finals and they lost to the Lakers. I was rooting for the 76ers in that series and became a fan ever since, despite the fact that they were no match for L.A.
When he got traded to the Nuggets I liked them and the 76ers.
When he got traded to the Pistons I liked the 76ers only.
I can’t stand Detroit. the Pistons are garbage
June 18th, 2009 at 8:55 am
I am leaving if we are talking about Allen (me-first) Iverson in a Raider Football Blog!
Practice?
Practice!!!
We are talking about Practice…because (Allen Iverson) does not practice he has a clause in his contract that says so.
This is why Basketball sucks selfish people like Allen Iverson who don’t like to practice.
June 18th, 2009 at 8:55 am
I know this is not the best audience to sound off to, but I find MMA to be about as entertaining as a dentist visit. Same with wrestling.
I would have loved that crap when I was 13, but sadly my brain kept developing.
June 18th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Hey Rockstar….I was at Iverson’s last game as a Nugg…they played the Lakers on Nov 1st.
Iverson sucks.
June 18th, 2009 at 9:00 am
“Asked whether Mitchell’s absence and hamstring injury sets him back, Cable said, “It does. You can’t do anything about the rules. They are what they are. You have to abide by them ”
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Unless you’re the Patriots.
June 18th, 2009 at 9:03 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 8:47 am
where do you think LeBron will sign for 2011?
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New York Knicks or Chicago Bulls
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South Beach
(2)Dwade, (3)Bron, (4)Beasley
championshiiiip
June 18th, 2009 at 9:03 am
I just wanted to lay the gauntlet down and say that DHB you ain’t done CRAP so far–You either Mitchell–Back up with your actions that which your Mouth hath put forth–otherwise that’s all it is, just talk..I was raised in a way that if your gonna shoot your mouth off–You better be able to back it up otherwise, you lose every ounce of Credibility you ever had….
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I think thats true, but it’s not Heyward-Bey or Mitchell’s fault the Raiders selected them that high. These kids never said they were the best at their positions. I think you should direct some of that criticism towards Javon Walker and DeAngelo Hall. Those guys promised to have pro bowl and hall of fame numbers as members of the silver & black. the rooks come in humble and say “I’ll do whatever I can to help this team win, even special teams”. We have no way of knowing if these guys have serious hamstring injuries that will linger on throughout the season or if Cable is holding them out as a precaution since they are both locks to make the roster anyways. Arman Shields, Louis Murphy, Will Franklin and Walker are all beat up too. I guess that is why Higgins, Schilens, Holland, Watkins, Parker, N Miller and Bayes are getting so many reps in OTA’s
June 18th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Plenty of time for DHB to heal up. I just hope this injury doens’t nag him all season. Yeah, I do think of him and Mithcell as long term and not immediate impact players. The ole 3 yr rule b-4 passing judgement but seriously, STRETCH THE **** OUT BEFORE YOU PRACTICE!!!
So many GD hammy issues and minor injuries to our WR corps. Stretch them 10 more minutes would you Lal?
June 18th, 2009 at 9:04 am
I agree Bo…my 15 year old son is caught up in this MMA B.S. and he and his friends still follow WWE or F or whatever it’s called these days. I am deeply disappointed in him, lol. My son is a Taekwondo Brown belt (actually he just tested for his red belt but we don’t know the results yet) and he has it in his mind that he wants to fight in MMA when he turns 18.
Anyone have Rolaids?
June 18th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Though he was one of the worst FT shooters in history, the night he scored 100 pts, Wilt was 28 0f 32 from the line.
June 18th, 2009 at 9:05 am
We’ll have to wait till camp starts, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see guys sitting still. Hurts cuz of the timing and the rooks inexperience at this level, but long as they’re ready to go and can play thru out the season…
June 18th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Dakota Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Hey Rockstar….I was at Iverson’s last game as a Nugg…they played the Lakers on Nov 1st.
Iverson sucks.
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Over the hill 5′10 pt guards who lose their quickness usually start bricking their shots. Like AI
June 18th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Bo Heart attack Jackson you missed the point completely so let me spell it out for you in a simple manner.
Today’s athletes like Shaq and LeBron are barely over 60% they just don’t care about the fundamentals, they want to run, jump and dunk all day and that’s boring to watch for me.
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First, are you making a joke of Schembechler’s death? WEAK.
Second, many stars back in the day could not shoot free throws well: Wilt, Rodman, and many others. Plus, the avg. NBA FT% has stayed the same over time but there are MORE good shooters now than in the past (and more poor shooters). So your rant is basically garbage. Try again.
For more on FT %, see http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/another-way-to-look-at-free-throw-percentage/
One good quote: “…the percentage of made basketball free throws has remained steady for 50 years.”
June 18th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Jetliner lands safely after pilot dies
(CNN) — Continental Flight 61, whose pilot died midflight, has landed safely at Newark International Airport, the Federal Aviation Administration said.
The agency said the plane landed at 11:49 a.m. ET.
The plane was flying from Brussels, Belgium, to Newark, New Jersey, the Federal Aviation Administration and Continental Airlines said.
Continental said the 61-year-old Newark-based pilot died “apparently of natural causes.” The pilot had 21 years of service with Continental, the airline said.
The airline said the crew on the flight included an additional relief pilot who took the place of the deceased man.
The Boeing 777 was carrying 247 passengers, Continental said.
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Okay, I may never fly again.
June 18th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Dakota Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 9:04 am
I agree Bo…my 15 year old son is caught up in this MMA B.S. and he and his friends still follow WWE or F or whatever it’s called these days. I am deeply disappointed in him, lol. My son is a Taekwondo Brown belt (actually he just tested for his red belt but we don’t know the results yet) and he has it in his mind that he wants to fight in MMA when he turns 18.
Anyone have Rolaids?
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LMAO. I got a whole roll in my pocket. My sweet, cute daughter is entering puberty…
June 18th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Thank god Ted Striker was on the plane!
June 18th, 2009 at 9:11 am
DHB: Bust, BUst, BUSt, BUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 18th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Over the hill 5′10 pt guards who lose their quickness usually start bricking their shots. Like AI
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And the new face of the Celtics, Stephony Marbury.
June 18th, 2009 at 9:12 am
239. Know its your baby and all, but has he ever been knocked out or injured in an altercation?
Sometimes when you get your rest button pressed it gives you a differnt perspective on career choices.
Alot of times the Dojo warrior doesn’t translate to more physical / real world application especailly traditional disiplines where the bulk of the fighting is against similar, compatible styles.
Much different than real world, crack head with a rusty razor blade or drunken college lineman.
I don’t know, maybe he has absorded punishment and is fine with it. Some are, but at 15 I can’t imagine him being severely tested yet. He’s young and likely will pursue something else so I wouldn’t worry too much about his choice of vocation at this point.
Good job on his Tae Kwon Do achivements! Thats impressive!
June 18th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Dakota Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Thank god Ted Striker was on the plane!
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“YOUR TOO LOW!!!”
June 18th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Dakota Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 9:04 am
I agree Bo…my 15 year old son is caught up in this MMA B.S. and he and his friends still follow WWE or F or whatever it’s called these days. I am deeply disappointed in him, lol. My son is a Taekwondo Brown belt (actually he just tested for his red belt but we don’t know the results yet) and he has it in his mind that he wants to fight in MMA when he turns 18.
Anyone have Rolaids?
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LMAO. I got a whole roll in my pocket. My sweet, cute daughter is entering puberty…
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Ooooh! Good luck there mister!
June 18th, 2009 at 9:14 am
ottocrat Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 9:11 am
DHB: Bust, BUst, BUSt, BUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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LOL!
June 18th, 2009 at 9:15 am
When its all said and done, where does DMC end up on the All time yards from scrimmage list??????????
June 18th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Nnamdi21 is on fire!
June 18th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Marcus is up there…Tiki is up there…AP Will be up there…
DMC?
June 18th, 2009 at 9:17 am
I know there seem to be many LA Bball fans in here, but to me personally, a Kobe or Paul Pierce championship ranks right down there with the Cowgirls and the Whiners, the Yanks and the Botox on my list of things I have no wish to see.
Hey, where’s Drray, maybe he would have some insight into the reason why so many athletes seem to tweak their hamstrings so often. Could it be lack of proper hydration? Poor diets? Too little body fat? Unhealthy BodyMassIndex? Improper warm-up and warm-down? Lactic acid build-up?
June 18th, 2009 at 9:20 am
I just thought up another DHB nickname…Darius Heybaby. Is that racist?
June 18th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Hey Rockstar….I was at Iverson’s last game as a Nugg…they played the Lakers on Nov 1st.
Iverson sucks.
Over the hill 5′10 pt guards who lose their quickness usually start bricking their shots. Like AI
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Dakota & exla: Allen Iverson dominated the NBA for 13 seasons before getting traded to Detroit …
a guy doesn’t play well in his 14th season on a team that doesn’t fit his style and now he “sucks” ??? you guys are bleeding purple after the Lakers victory and it’s going to your head. Iverson is a legend. look at some of his awards …
NCAA Big East Rookie Of The Year (1995)
2x NCAA Big East Defensive Player Of The Year (1995, 1996)
NBA Rookie of the Year (1997)
NBA All-Star Rookie Game Most Valuable Player (1997)
1997 NBA All-Rookie Team
NBA Most Valuable Player (2001)
2x NBA All-Star Game MVP (2001, 2005)
3x All-NBA First Team
3x All-NBA Second Team
10x NBA All-Star
3x Steals leader (2001, 2002, 2003)
7x All-NBA selection
4x NBA scoring champion (1999, 2001, 2002, 2005)
June 18th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Nnamdi,
I beat him up once in a while when I get sick and tired of him popping around the corner and sending a kick into my gut…I take him down and kick his scrawny ass, lol. Thankfully, he does have other dreams, he wants to go into law enforcement, SWAT in particular, and he wants to become a Taekwondo master and have his own school.
June 18th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Top FT shooters over 7′2″:
1. Yao Ming, 7-6
Career %: .826 (2571 FTA)
Best Season %: 2006-07, .862
2. Arvydas Sabonis, 7-3
Career %: .786 (1690 FTA)
Best Season %: 1999-00, .843
3. Zydrunas Ilgauskas, 7-3
Career %: .781 (2959 FTA)
Best Season %: 2008-09, .838
4. Rik Smits, 7-4
Career %: .773 (2932 FTA)
Best Season %: 1998-99, .818
5. Luc Longley, 7-2
Career %: .760 (947 FTA)
Best Season %: 1999-00, .825
June 18th, 2009 at 9:25 am
If JRuss, DMC, and Zach Miller all end up being bona fide superstars, are you upset if DHB only ends up being as good as Alvin Harper if we win?
June 18th, 2009 at 9:26 am
M Lonetree Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 9:17 am
I know there seem to be many LA Bball fans in here, but to me personally, a Kobe or Paul Pierce championship ranks right down there with the Cowgirls and the Whiners, the Yanks and the Botox on my list of things I have no wish to see.
Hey, where’s Drray, maybe he would have some insight into the reason why so many athletes seem to tweak their hamstrings so often. Could it be lack of proper hydration? Poor diets? Too little body fat? Unhealthy BodyMassIndex? Improper warm-up and warm-down? Lactic acid build-up?
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M,
I think the rookies probably hurt themselves trying to service all of their new lady friends once the ladies found out how high they were drafted. That would be hard, but fulfilling work.
June 18th, 2009 at 9:30 am
RRS,
Iverson is selfish and since Philly his teams get worse when he gets there. Nice indiv. numbers, but no rings for a reason. Its a team game. Ask Jordan.
June 18th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Iverson dominated the NBA like George Foreman dominates a dinner table…
June 18th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Iverson is overrated, always has been. He would never lead a team to an NBA championship.
June 18th, 2009 at 9:35 am
If JRuss, DMC, and Zach Miller all end up being bona fide superstars, are you upset if DHB only ends up being as good as Alvin Harper if we win?
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Cable = Jimmy Johnson
Russell = Troy Aikman
McFadden = Emmitt Smith
O’Neal = Daryl Johnston
Walker = Michael Irvin
Heyward Bey = Alvin Harper
Miller = Jay Novacek
LOL! yeah right buddy
June 18th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Iverson wasn’t selfish in Denver or Detroit. They centered their offense around him in Philly because they never had enough talented players around him. not guys that could score on a consistant basis anyways
even last year he started 50 games and averaged over 17 points per game as a role player on the defensive minded Pistons
The guy is 34 years old and his body has taken a beating in 14 years of basketball. He’s a warrior and bball is a young man’s game.
June 18th, 2009 at 9:44 am
If Iverson has learned it was a team game, perhaps he might have gotten a ring. Caused many a coach to get fired or quit. Larry Brown was an example of someone who tried tried to get him to put his skills into team ball.
June 18th, 2009 at 9:45 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 9:35 am
If JRuss, DMC, and Zach Miller all end up being bona fide superstars, are you upset if DHB only ends up being as good as Alvin Harper if we win?
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Cable = Jimmy Johnson
Russell = Troy Aikman
McFadden = Emmitt Smith
O’Neal = Daryl Johnston
Walker = Michael Irvin
Heyward Bey = Alvin Harper
Miller = Jay Novacek
LOL! yeah right buddy
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Too bad we don’t have something to match the true force behind the Cowboys victories; the o-line. No Gogans, Newtons, Stepnoskis or Larry Allens on this Oakland Roster. But at least we drafted fast players!!!
June 18th, 2009 at 9:46 am
The guy is 34 years old and his body has taken a beating in 14 years of basketball. He’s a warrior and bball is a young man’s game.
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Unless you are over 6′9′. LOL
June 18th, 2009 at 9:51 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Iverson wasn’t selfish in Denver or Detroit.
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Compare the records of the Thuggets and Pistons before and after the trade. Maybe selfish is not the word for it, but regardless he does not produce the important number. Wins. Billups is a far better contributor.
Adding a “dominant” player turns a good team into a great one, i.e. Gasol/Lakers, Billups/Nuggets, Wade/Heat, Duncan/Spurs.
Iverson has had that kind of impact once, last century.
June 18th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Hey Bo,
If we keep Odom and lose Ariza, what would you think of bringing in Shawn Marion for the MLE to replace Ariza once Marion realizes his market value is crap?
June 18th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Too bad we don’t have something to match the true force behind the Cowboys victories.
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The true force behind Raider victories: Lechler/Jano.
June 18th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Good morning Nation.
4eva,
What’s a Din Din?
June 18th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Lakers!!! Again!!!!
June 18th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Billups is a great player. I give you that. He can get the ball into the hands of the teams playmakers. He made Anthony, Nene, K-Mart and JR Smith better players. Made that team dangerous. That’s what good PG’s do …
Iverson is a SG (should be anyways). different roles. Iverson is a scorer. Billups can score, but it’s never his first choice or option. Detroit should have never traded for Iverson. He doesn’t fit the team chemistry or philosophy. They were looking for a spark though. Just like the Raiders when they traded away Washington to acquire D Hall. Fabian became a starter in Baltimore, DeAngelo was a bad fit in Oakland (not a M2M corner)
June 18th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Dakota,
You are a troublemaker, talking about the lakers, politics, and bushmaster5000!!
This is a Raiders Blog sir!!
June 18th, 2009 at 10:09 am
RaiderO,
I know I am, but get used to it…Raider news is pretty sparse between now and the end of July.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Dakota,
I would rather have Ariza, and I suspect he will make himself affordable. He went to UCLA.
Marion is nice for toughness, but Ariza is a better 3-pt shooter and can guard Pierce, LeBron, Wade, R. Lewis, and Ginobili.
I am worried about keeping both Odom and Phil. Jerry and Jeanie better swallow (innuendo?) the salary tax.
Also, I want to sign Dikembe. He can practice against Bynum and deliver some good fouls on big men. So what if he’s 63?
Adios to Powell, Mbenga, and DEFINATELY Sasha. The bench needs a Charles Oakley type enforcer and not a player who keeps a spare shoelace on his head.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:12 am
If Iverson has learned it was a team game, perhaps he might have gotten a ring. Caused many a coach to get fired or quit. Larry Brown was an example of someone who tried tried to get him to put his skills into team ball.
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exla: I responded to this, but my comment is “awaiting moderation” – not sure why. I didn’t use the word sho3s!
Anyways, on to football. What do you guys think of the Charlie Frye signing?
June 18th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Lunch!
June 18th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Who’s the idot who gave Walton a 21 Mil contract?
The Lakers will resign both Ariza and Odom. Detroit traded for AI just for his expiring big $ contract. Wanted to get into the FA market.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Dakota,
I’m playing, I enjoy reading your posts. Especially the ones that are not Raiders related. lol
June 18th, 2009 at 10:17 am
What do you guys think of Cable’s play calling from what you have seen last season?
June 18th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Points Rebounds Assists FG%
5.0 2.8 2.7 43.6
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$21 mil? Jeanne must have been doing Phil when Mitch Kupchak brough in the contract.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Good to hear that Russell is gettting his pass catchers ready for a seperate practice session so they can get on the same page before camp starts.
How come none of you whining Russell haters who call yourselves Raiders fans are talking about that?
Why isn’t the local media, BSPN and NFLNetwork reporting that??
Oh thats right, they only focus on the negative when it comes to Russell and any Raiders player for that matter.
Being objective was thrown out the window along time ago when it comes the media huh? lol
June 18th, 2009 at 10:21 am
[...] defensive end Greg Ellis is already working in Derrick Burgess’ starting spot after two days in Oakland. The writing is on the wall for [...]
June 18th, 2009 at 10:22 am
If the LAKERS can’t resign both and can only resign one….then Ariza should be the choice.
He is younger, more active, can shoot and plays better defense than Odom and he still tall at 6′7.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:23 am
The RaiderCast | Evening news and notes Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 10:21 am
[...] defensive end Greg Ellis is already working in Derrick Burgess’ starting spot after two days in Oakland. The writing is on the wall for [...]
^^^^^
Trade Burgess and Walter for Vince Wilfork and the rookie OT the Pats drafted in the 2nd Round this year.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Exla,
Maybe the Lakers can swing a deal to dump Adam Morrison’s expiring $5.2 million dollar contract to give us room to sign both Odom and Ariza…I doubt anyone would want to touch Walton’s or Sasha’s contracts. Lakers did save $8.5 million when they traded Vladimir and that money was supposed to be earmarked to go to Ariza and Odom, so hopefully deals get worked out.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Al,
Trade Burgess, Walter, and a draft pick for V Wilfork. Please!!!!
June 18th, 2009 at 10:30 am
What do you guys think of Cable’s play calling from what you have seen last season?
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he’s not afraid to take a risk. likes to gamble and try new things (which is all good). When it works he looks like a genious. When it doesn’t he looks like a dope. It will be interesting to see how he blends with Tollner/Hackett’s ultra conservative system. It was obvious that all he did last year was put a few wrinkles in the Kiffin/Knapp playbook.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:31 am
And then sign him to a long term contract.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:34 am
There is no Cap next year!! Trade for Wilfork Al!!
June 18th, 2009 at 10:35 am
RaiderO, Al already has many many millions tied up in the DT spot. We would have to dump Sands, Warren or Kelly to be able to sign Wilfork IMO…and I doubt the Pats would take any of those players.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Dakota
“HELLS BELLS”
June 18th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Dakota,
We don’t need both Sands and Warren, if we sign Wilfork.
Look at the Giants, how much do they have invested in their D line? More than us I think.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:42 am
RR,
Post # 292, very interesting. What about the deep ball, that’s not too conservative. IMHO
June 18th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Raider Dell Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Dakota
“HELLS BELLS”II
June 18th, 2009 at 10:43 am
DKnight007 Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 10:22 am
If the LAKERS can’t resign both and can only resign one….then Ariza should be the choice.
He is younger, more active, can shoot and plays better defense than Odom and he still tall at 6′7.
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I disagree. Ariza might be a one-hit playoff wonder like many many players before him (sasha last year), and he is injury prone big time.
We know Odom is a solid player year in and year out. Causes major matchup problems, plays decent post D and rebounds the hell out of the Ball and plays through injuries. And, although Ariza is younger, Odom is only 29.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Dell,
How was your dinner, or let me put this way: what was your dinner?
June 18th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Bre Ladd, Waltons GF
http://www.chrismooney.com/portfolios/people/Bre_Ladd.jpg
June 18th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Odom can play all 5 positions. How many could do that beside Magic?
June 18th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Dell,
We must be experiencing technical difficulties!
June 18th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Dakota,
Forgot about Morrison. Long time since I heard him mentioned. Send him to the Clippers. Oh I forgot, Elgin’s not there to make the deal. LOL
June 18th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Raider O
I decided to take your advice. I let her believe I really wanted to go to Mimi’s. I was so positive about our dinner, she offered to go to my restaurant the next few times.
Identify, overcome and don’t ask for the Sale.
Big Thanks.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Dakota
It must be on my sight, new computer.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:50 am
King James can play all 5 positions, and according to Dakota, he should be a laker in 2011.
lol
June 18th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Dakota,
We must keep Odom for rebounding and as a potential starter if Ariza, Bynum or Gasol get injured.
I want to know when Phil plans to announce his intentions for next season. And is Tex Winter’s stroke going to force him to reitre in the prime of his career???
June 18th, 2009 at 10:53 am
FREE DIKEMBE!
June 18th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Dell,
My pleasure sir, but dont forget: Ask, then identify..
Do you like to compete?
June 18th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Bo, I think Dikembe’s knee exploded into a million pieces and he pretty much announced his retirement while being carted off the court.
From what I hear, Mbenga is pretty physical in practice…he is a black belt after all.
And I agree about having to keep Odom…can’t count on Bynum to last an entire year, and with Gasol likely committed to playing for Spain in the Euros later this Summer/early Fall he may not last the year either.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:58 am
What about the deep ball, that’s not too conservative. IMHO
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who knows? that’s what we’re waiting to find out! Tollner/Hackett’s Air Coryell offense calls for a 3 step drop and a pass lofted 30-40 yards downfield. It’s usually run-run-pass. run the football. play great defense. win the time of possession and field position battle. always take the points (FG on 4th down for example). no gambles
Kiffin/Knapp’s offense was centered around the zbs. The zbs calls for a QB to be able to move in the pocket. quick release, roll outs, screen passes, short slants to the TE, hit the RB or FB out of the backfield when ANY sort of pressure arises. Jeff Garcia is the perfect fit. Cable said they aren’t changing the offense, just mainly the terminology and stressing fundamentals.
What does a mix between the Kiffin/Knapp and Tollner/Hackett systems look like? nobody knows! All we know is that with the zbs still intact and a RB trio of McFadden, Bush & Fargas we will be running the football PLENTY. Especially since we have such a young QB and WR’s … If our defense plays up to par I’m guessing we’ll be very competitive in this division
June 18th, 2009 at 10:59 am
I have an appointment in a few minutes. The gentleman has inherited $ 1 million dollars.
He is a Raide Man. So in lieu of compensation , how about I ask him to rent a suite for one game, and then I get to select my 21 closest friends, or blog buddys.
You may think this is B. S., I assure you it will be brought up.
I’ll let you know what he said.
Later and Raider On.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Dikembe Mutombo is done.
He hasn’t done jack since 2002, like the Raiders …
76ers traded him to the rival Nets. what does that tell you?
June 18th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Raider O Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 10:17 am
What do you guys think of Cable’s play calling from what you have seen last season?
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We’re gonna run the ball no matter what.
Playcalling will be dictated by how effective the line blocks and how accurate Russell looks. If we’re pass protecting and throwing it on target, then we will throw more -when they arent expecting it.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Playcalling will be dictated by how effective the line blocks and how accurate Russell looks. If we’re pass protecting and throwing it on target, then we will throw more -when they arent expecting it.
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Agreed. However, Samson Satele replaces Jake Grove. Thats the only change on the o-line (and Samson is injured right now), besides getting a new OL coach from UCLA.
LT Henderson
LG Gallery
C Satele
RG Carlisle
RT Green
whoopie! I don’t expect much from Barnes, Pears, Johnson or Compas. At least Kwame Harris is out
June 18th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Talk to all tomorrow. See Ya!
June 18th, 2009 at 11:15 am
too bad the mod doesn’t make all basketball comments awaiting moderation.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:17 am
1st and 10- DMC Off tackle right for 4 yards
2nd and 6- Play action to Miller over middle for 4 yards
3rd and 2- Toss left to DMC, option throw over the top to DHB down the left sideline for 75 tard TD.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:17 am
later exla!
June 18th, 2009 at 11:18 am
there is a very good probability Green will be replaced.Cable wanted to replace him last year but didn’t have anyone healthy or good enough.Barnes or Pears will probably take his spot.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:18 am
too bad the mod doesn’t make all basketball comments awaiting moderation.
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LOL. well put
religion & politics too
June 18th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Barnes or Pears will probably take his spot.
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Barnes hasn’t played RT since college and that was only sparingly
Pears was out of football last year (injured)
June 18th, 2009 at 11:21 am
RR-agreed
June 18th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Lefty,
It would be really boring in here if we could only talk about the Raiders.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Raider Dell Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 10:59 am
I have an appointment in a few minutes. The gentleman has inherited $ 1 million dollars.
He is a Raide Man. So in lieu of compensation , how about I ask him to rent a suite for one game, and then I get to select my 21 closest friends, or blog buddys.
You may think this is B. S., I assure you it will be brought up.
I’ll let you know what he said.
Later and Raider On.
^^^^^^
There you go!
June 18th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Dakota,
We must keep Odom for rebounding and as a potential starter if Ariza, Bynum or Gasol get injured.
I want to know when Phil plans to announce his intentions for next season. And is Tex Winter’s stroke going to force him to reitre in the prime of his career???
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It’s gonna depend on who wants more money, and who wants to stay with the Lakers in the end.
I would love for them tio keep Odom IF they can.
Oh yeah, The Celtics are soft….lol
June 18th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Dell, you are my fav poster! You are the man! You have the best comments on the blog!
Can I come to the game?
June 18th, 2009 at 11:26 am
not as boring as BB talk.besides,would eveyone be happy if a bunch of donkey fans came on here and talked about them all day?
June 18th, 2009 at 11:27 am
who is Dell?
Dell Curry?
June 18th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Just purchased three tickets to the Braves-Rockies game on July 11th…I’ll be the guy wearing the Sammy Sosa jersey that has his name crossed out and the word Cheat replacing it.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:30 am
I guess Raider O didn’t like my responses to his questions … where did he go?
*crickets*
June 18th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Dakota Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Dell, you are my fav poster! You are the man! You have the best comments on the blog!
Can I come to the game?”
My sentiments exactly Raider Dell. You ARE the man! Don’t forget about your old Blues Brother RaiderDogg.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Dakota-you should replace his name with “another cheat”,or better yet yanna-be-steeler.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Dakota, BSJ & EXLA
Congrats on the new hardware this weekend!
Look out for my Warriors next year
I heard that Trevor Ariza wants to join Golden State and re-unite with his old buddy Ronny Turiaf…
June 18th, 2009 at 11:34 am
should be wanna be,not yanna be.or wanna be charger.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:34 am
OAKRAIDERSFormer Raiders WR Jerry Rice is at the team’s Alameda facility watching today’s final OTA session.
31 minutes ago from web
June 18th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Jerry Rice Quote from the Raiders OTA:
“Man, I’m not sure this Heyward-Bey guy was worth the number seven pick. He can’t run or catch. Reminds me of James Jett”
June 18th, 2009 at 11:37 am
just kidding
June 18th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Raider Dell Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 10:59 am
I have an appointment in a few minutes. The gentleman has inherited $ 1 million dollars.
He is a Raide Man. So in lieu of compensation , how about I ask him to rent a suite for one game, and then I get to select my 21 closest friends, or blog buddys.
You may think this is B. S., I assure you it will be brought up.
I’ll let you know what he said.
Later and Raider On.
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Dell, I have always considered you a great commenter and a blessing to manking in general.
Good luck with the sweet suite idea! And yes, I’m a whore for the Raiders…
June 18th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Jerry Rice is at the team’s Alameda facility watching today’s final OTA session.
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half the WR’s on our roster are only WATCHING today’s OTA session as well …
Maybe Higgins, Schilens, Holland and Watkins can showcase their skills in front of a legend?
June 18th, 2009 at 11:42 am
I heard that Trevor Ariza wants to join Golden State and re-unite with his old buddy Ronny Turiaf…
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And Obama would rather be Governor of Illinois.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 11:42 am
I heard that Trevor Ariza wants to join Golden State and re-unite with his old buddy Ronny Turiaf…
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And Obama would rather be Governor of Illinois.”
Look bro, I don’t just make this sh1t up! OK, yes I do. Just phukking with you guys.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:44 am
lefty12 Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 11:15 am
too bad the mod doesn’t make all basketball comments awaiting moderation.
We could always talk about Ginger and Mary Ann
June 18th, 2009 at 11:46 am
i was watching NFLN earlier-a show about the NY Titans/Jets and realized they haven’t been to a SB in over 50 years.i made me wonder how would we as Raider fans accept that?would we rather have their recent record or our history with our recent record?
June 18th, 2009 at 11:47 am
“Dell, I have always considered you a great commenter and a blessing to manking in general.
Good luck with the sweet suite idea! And yes, I’m a whore for the Raiders…”
Is that you buttholeprik
June 18th, 2009 at 11:48 am
WHAT? Dikembe is done? Well, he probably has several sons in their 30s that are at least 7′6″…
Kupchak, get us Dikembe Mutombo Mpolondo Mukamba Jean-Jacques Wamutombo Jr.!
June 18th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Lefty
Quit making excuses for losing!
June 18th, 2009 at 11:48 am
troll-you’d have to go to a donkey blog for that.you and their fans like to make light of serious issues.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:49 am
whats up happy troll?
how you doing man?
June 18th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Oh, the Bengals never won a Super Bowl, so 24 wins in 6 years isn’t so bad.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:51 am
KK,not making excuses.just pointing out facts.i thought you’d appreciate facts.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:51 am
From wiki…
“Mutombo’s nephew Harouna Mutombo plays college basketball for the Western Carolina Catamounts. Harouna was the team’s leading scorer for the 2009 season and was named Southern Conference Freshman of the Year.”
June 18th, 2009 at 11:51 am
KK
I have been gone for a while, how are you feeling about the Ellis signing?
Personally I think he’s got a lot left in the tank with something to prove. Also I have the feeling he is relishing the idea of being back in a 4-3 base defense, at his natural position of DE.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Oh, my grandmother never had balls, so getting mine cut, isn’t so bad.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:53 am
lefty12 Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 11:48 am
troll-you’d have to go to a donkey blog for that.you and their fans like to make light of serious issues.
Lefty
What is it eaxactly that you do with you’re right hand 
If my memory serves me correctly you were the one making the cracks about Ginger and Mary Ann when the boat with the football players was lost 
Maybe you should go to the Bronco blog 
On second hand they would tear you apart 
June 18th, 2009 at 11:53 am
“Balls” said the Queen. “If I had them I’d be King!”
June 18th, 2009 at 11:53 am
KK-24 wins in 6 years is NOT acceptable,but it could be worse.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:55 am
RaiderDogg
I like the Greg Ellis signing, I don’t think he will improve the Run D, but hopefully he’s more vocal than D Burgess and instills some mental toughness to the rest of the D-Line. Which I think they need. Because I don’t believe Sands/Kelly are hard workers.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:55 am
RR 8)….just chilling these days
June 18th, 2009 at 11:55 am
troll-i’ve told you more than once,it wasn’t me.if you don’t accept that there isn’t anything i can do about it.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:56 am
lefty12 Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 11:46 am
i was watching NFLN earlier-a show about the NY Titans/Jets and realized they haven’t been to a SB in over 50 years.i made me wonder how would we as Raider fans accept that?would we rather have their recent record or our history with our recent record?
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Um, the Jets won the SB on January 12, 1969….did you mean 40 years?
June 18th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Up to this point in the offseason, Cable has been doing everything right. Except for a questionable draft which he obviously had no control over, he was able to bring in a solid offesive coaching staff – Hackett, Tollner and the line coach Miczelnik (sp?) – that will address our o line and quarterback.
While Jamarcus planning a receivers / qb camp isn’t ground breaking, it is one of the biggest signs of him being a leader we’ve seen. And it seems like this is a direct result of the challenge issued to him by Cable.
Whether or not this is the first of many displays of leadership, we’ll see. But it’s encouraging that he’s attempting to take the reigns during OTAs and hopefully embracing his role.
On a different note – what the F is the deal with our training staff? Do we have the worst collection of medics in the league? Recent examples -
1) DMAC gets incurable turf toe from an ill fitting cleat. Confesses to still being in pain.
2) Arman Shields still isn’t recovered from an injury from a YEAR AGO
3) DHB injures hammy weeks ago, returns only to switfly reinjure again.
4) Walker needs extra surgery to fix his still ailing knee – that he played with all last year at 60%
5) Samson Satele gets pushed in OTAs – OTAs! – even though he professes his shoulder isn’t completely healed
Al, I know you hate paying your coaches but don’t you realize your training staff keeps your track stars on the field?
June 18th, 2009 at 11:58 am
thanks BSJ.40 yrs.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:59 am
lefty12 Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 11:55 am
troll-i’ve told you more than once,it wasn’t me.if you don’t accept that there isn’t anything i can do about it.
Okay Lefty
whatever you say 
June 18th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
RR,
I don’t know much about those 2 guys, so I don’t have much to say. That’s also why I’m asking for your opinion.
Sorry, but I had to work for a few mins, or atleast act like it. lol
June 18th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
KK
You may be right about Ellis not helping with the run D, but I think his veteran leadership is much needed up front.
Not sure if this spells the end for Burgess in the S&B, I would be ok if he and Ellis bookended the line, although Jerry did mention that Ellis lined up at LDE at the OTA’s, Burgess’ spot.
Burgess is in a contract year, if he sticks around, he will be auditioning for other teams all year long. With Ellis there pushing him, we may see a big year out of Burgess.
Do the Raiders get a 3rd round pick for Burgess or do they keep him with the hopes of a return to form?
Thanks for answering me btw.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
look troll,i don’t give a rats arse if you believe me or not.i sleep fine at nights knowing it wasn’t me.i’ve lost too many close people the last couple of years to make light of such situations.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
It would take another 14 years without a SB victory to equal the Jets 40. Will I still be here in 14 years commenting on our team if we haven’t added another trophy?
Yes, and I will be blaming Fargas.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
It would take another 14 years without a SB victory to equal the Jets 40. Will I still be here in 14 years commenting on our team if we haven’t added another trophy?
Yes, and I will be blaming Fargas.”
And Al Davis will be alive and well.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Let’s look at Greg Ellis as a DE as opposed to Greg Ellis as an OLB.
2003-2005 (DE 3 seasons) 143 tackles, 25 sacks, 7 forced fumbles, 2 fumble recoveries, 0 INT’s
2006-2008 (LB 3 seasons) 98 tackles, 25 sacks, 6 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovery, 2 INT’s
Derrick Burgess:
2006-2008 (DE 3 seasons) 115 tackles, 22.5 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovery, no INT’s
yeah – we’re getting a player !!!
June 18th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Rockstar
nice breakdown
June 18th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
It would take another 14 years without a SB victory to equal the Jets 40. Will I still be here in 14 years commenting on our team if we haven’t added another trophy?
Yes, and I will be blaming Fargas.”
And Al Davis will be alive and well.
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Here’s a question…which player on the current team has the best chance to STILL be on the team in 14 years?
Answer: Danny Southwick!
June 18th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
I think Jay Richardson will be cut and Derrick Burgess will stick as a situational pass rusher. Trevor Scott will start on the other end of Ellis. Matt Shaughnessy will be the 4th DE. Gunheim will be on the practice squad again. Gray or Bryant could join him there.
If Burgess blows up in a reduced role (10-16 sacks) we could always tag & trade him next offseason
June 18th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
DE position should be very interesting.someone will have to go.will we get rid of the guys we drafted without giving them any realistic opportunities?i doubt it.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
BSJ – Agreed. Danny Southwick will beat out Gradkowski, Frye and Walter
Garcia will retire next offseason and Southwick will be Russell’s heir apparent
June 18th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
I think Jay Richardson will be cut and Derrick Burgess will stick as a situational pass rusher. Trevor Scott will start on the other end of Ellis. Matt Shaughnessy will be the 4th DE. Gunheim will be on the practice squad again. Gray or Bryant could join him there.
If Burgess blows up in a reduced role (10-16 sacks) we could always tag & trade him next offseason
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Jay Richardson shoulda been put on the Jon Alston weight training program and bulked him up to 300 pounds and moved him inside to DT.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
DE position should be very interesting.someone will have to go.will we get rid of the guys we drafted without giving them any realistic opportunities?i doubt it.
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you think we’ll keep Sulak on the roster as a 5th DE ?
We’re already keeping like 12 LB’s and WR’s. right?
you’re right. somebody will HAVE to go
June 18th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
RR-i think Burgess is the one to go,especially with the way Cable is filling the roster with high character,hard worker type guys.i don’t think Cable likes the way Burgess is always nursing nagging injuries and doesn’t participate as a member of the team.he seems to be a loner-not a team guy like we are trying to fill the roster with.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Was Gunheim active for 6 games last year?
Practice Squad rules:
Each NFL team may keep up to eight members on their “practice squad” in addition to their 53-member main roster. They consist mostly of rookies who were cut in training camps and borderline NFL-caliber players. Both rookies and young veterans are eligible for the practice squad. However, a player cannot participate on the practice squad for more than three seasons, or if he has accrued a year of NFL experience (six or more games on a club’s 53-man active roster or official Injured Reserve list.)
Practice squad players practice alongside regular roster players during the week, but they are not allowed to play in actual games. They can be paid considerably less than active squad players: The minimum salary from 2008 to 2010 is $5,200 per week (2008-2010)[1] for 17 weeks, or $88,400 per season, in comparison to the NFL minimum rookie salary of $285,000.
Players can be promoted to the active roster either by their current team, or by another team who is scouting them. They retain free agent status and may sign with any team they wish without compensation to the original team.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Jay Richardson shoulda been put on the Jon Alston weight training program and bulked him up to 300 pounds and moved him inside to DT.
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you’re right. what an ill timed injury. If he was killing it in the mandatory camp and OTA’s they might have passed on Greg Ellis … plus William Joseph & Ryan Boschetti aren’t exactly considered “fierce competition” at DT by most guys standards
now i’m afraid he’s done in Oakland. oh well. he was only a 6th round pick who Kiffin drafted for special teams use anyways. nobody expected him to beat out Quentin Moses or Tyler Brayton and actually claim a starting job
June 18th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Whats up Raiderdogg
Whats up Dell
Heart attack Bo
Mod/troll
Raider Rockstar
June 18th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Was Gunheim active for 6 games last year?
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NO.
Gunheim began the 2008 season as part of the Raiders’ practice squad. He was called up to the active roster in November 2008. active and played in 3 games. Panthers, Bucs and one other team (cant remember) …
June 18th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Hey 666,
How ’bout them Laker!!!!!
June 18th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
couldn’t resist could you Dakota.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Sometimes I lack self-control.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
The NBA is elementary and so self absorbed it is not even enjoyable to watch.
When one guy scores 50 points in a sporting event to me that is very arrogant and self centered. That would be like watching Tom Cruise talk about himself for an hour.
They don’t play defense, why even play the game why not just have a slam dunk contest take place instead?
For me personally watching Poker on ESPN or even women’s curling is more exciting than the NBA.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Lefty: I highly doubt anybody would part ways with Derrick Burgess (2 time pro bowler) just to keep a roster spot warm for Sulak or Gunheim – especially Al Davis
Cable doesn’t make the final decisions. remember?
I think AD is still fuming after the Pats got Randy Moss and he had 2 megastar seasons. He already knows that Bill Belly is licking his chops to get a pass rusher like D-Burg for next to nothing
June 18th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Dakota, how was that storm that just blew through?
June 18th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Bo, thankfully it was north of where I live. Clouds looked nasty.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
That being said if I did watch NBA it would be the Warriors and the Lakers maybe the Kings?
So I guess I understand why people are all happy about the Lakers there will never be another Magic Johnson I always thought he was a class act.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
I think Tiger woods is a better athlete than Kobe.
Let the debate begin…
June 18th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
RR-Gunheim i agree,but not Sulak.Burgess is gone after this year if not before and Davis/Cable drafted Sulak.you know how Davis likes to prove he drafted quality players.i could see Burgess getting traded during training camp.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
I was looking at weather.com to see if I could get some golf in this PM, and your neighborhood looked pretty orange…
June 18th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
I think Tiger woods is a better athlete than Kobe.
Let the debate begin…
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Oh yeah?! Well, tattoos and heavy metal are for wussies…
June 18th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
666,
I can see what you are saying. Thankfully, I am a Lakers’ fan and the Lakers actually run an offense. They don’t just run pick and rolls and isolations, so it makes for a better brand of basketball to watch. Personally, I can rarely watch NBA games that do not include the Lakers. How many times a game can the Cavs run a James drives and kicks out play before you get bored with it? Or the Magic run a pick and roll with Turkey? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz The worst ever was Stockton and Malone over and over again.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Dakota
I’d would have thought the Utah Jazz would be more up your alley?
June 18th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
666-for sure he is a better person.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Golf is not a sport, it’s a hobby, so there are no golf “athletes”.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Dakota
I’d would have thought the Utah Jazz would be more up your alley?
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Why, because they had a lot of white players? Or because they are mormons and I like the show Big Love? Or because Utah isn’t that far from here? What are you getting at KK?
June 18th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Stockton was one of the dirtiest players of all time.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Golf is a sport…not sure about baseball though.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
i could see Burgess getting traded during training camp.
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and if there are no trade partners (like Walter & Huff last year) ???
D-Burg is not getting cut … Davis doesn’t part ways with players he thinks still hold value (no matter who else is on the roster at that position) unless there is some sort of draft pick(s) or players involved
June 18th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Dakota,
KK will stereotype you, but will call you out when you stereotype him. that’s what hypocrits do
June 18th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
McHale Parish Dennis Johnson were pretty boring but effective.
Stockton and Malone like you said zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I don’t have any tattoo’s Bo
I just think that Tiger Woods could have been good at anything besides golf if he chose to. Even if he was a guitar player he would have been the next Jimi Hendrix, if he was a Hockey player he would have beaten all of Gretzky’s records etc.
June 18th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
I love the fact Utah has a team named the Jazz. Yeah, there are a whole lot of hep cats in Salt Lake, LOL. Then again, not many lakes in LA…
GO RESERVOIRS!
June 18th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Post #405 “Ding” “Ding” good answer
I couldn’t have said it any better myself!
June 18th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
I don’t have any tattoo’s Bo
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LOL. I was gonna rag on satanism but that would be pathetic. F U and Satan too!
June 18th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Bo they are the Jazz because they moved from New Orleans (where the name makes sense) remember Pistol Pete Maravich?
June 18th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
RR-the difference is Huff has a huge contract and has no value.Walter had a cheap contract and didn’t have to be moved.Burgess has value and has a reasonable contract.a team in need would give up a lower rd draft pick for him.the question is what would it take for Davis to pull the trigger?
June 18th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
later guys!
June 18th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
remember Pistol Pete Maravich?
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Pistol Pete was the man!
June 18th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Bo if you believe in little invisible men that you can blame things on because you are a weak and or insecure person, that’s your deal but don’t assume I believe in fairy tales and or make believe characters.
We evolved, the Earth is 4.5 Billion years old, the religious argument is over! There is no Satan or Santa Claus sorry to be the one to tell you.
June 18th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Burgess has value and has a reasonable contract.a team in need would give up a lower rd draft pick for him.the question is what would it take for Davis to pull the trigger?
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probably a 2nd or 3rd round pick in next year’s draft
June 18th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Silver: no Satan?
why the 666 attached to your nick then?
isn’t that the “sign of the devil” or whatever ?
June 18th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Bo your sports IQ just took a beating by a guy who doesn’t even watch basketball.
You seriously didn’t know the Jazz originated in New Orleans?
June 18th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
RaiderRockstar
Are you sure that you really want to know the true and in depth meaning of the complex number 666?
If I tell you and the secret is out then I cannot be responsible for what might happen!
Are you sure you are ready for me to reveal it to you?
This is your last chance to turn away and not learn the secret of the number…
Ok here it goes……
Its a number and it comes after 665 and before 667.
That’s all, nothing more nothing less.
June 18th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
666, I actually do think Tiger is a superior athlete to Kobe (or anyone else), although they have a lot in common as far as mental toughness and desire. Both were child prodigies and from unique ethnic/geographic backgrounds too. And both would undoubtedly kick ass at any competitive venture they chose.