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By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, June 18th, 2009 at 12:58 pm in Oakland Raiders.

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  • RaiderRockstar

    I think we are looking at Eugene at FS and Mitchell at SS. I think Huff will continue to play that “rover” role and be the 3rd DB on the field.

    ***

    Agreed. Branch was drafted to replace Jarrod Cooper and be the ST gunner – not to be a future starter at SS. Mitchell is a SS, not a FS … these guys will compete for the job as Eugene & Huff will compete for the FS job

    may the best men win (not the guy on scholarship!)

  • Dude

    I know one thing for certain. While watching the games the last 2 years I cant even count the amount of times CBS would show a replay of Sands getting either absolutely manhandled by some smaller guard or flat out rolling over on a play. Terdell Sands is the type of player that this team does not need and anyone who defends him is ignorant.

  • SnB Defense

    I will give Kelly a free pass given his knee injury. But he has not demonstrated to this point that he is one of the top 3 or 4 DTs in the league. He is paid like one.

    As for Gerard Warren…He’s a penetrator, but on run plays he needs to clog running lanes a force offenses to put two hats on him. He does not do that consistently.

    Terdell Sands was supposed to be the wall up the middle. He’s paid in the top 25% of all DTs….so let’s not use the “he’s a backup” excuse.

    Boschetti and Joseph are rotation guys….and that’s fine because their paychecks and previous work history support that.

    Although, had they drafted Ron Brace…then you could rotate Kelly/Warren at UT and Brace/Sands at NT and be all set.

    Oh well

  • OAKlifer

    Raider O Says:
    June 19th, 2009 at 10:09 am

    I like Mista FAB, is he Odd and funny like his videos??!

    Just like that man he is one cool cat and he can freestlye for like 20 mins at a time!!! just askin people to pull stuff out thier pockets and bust on ‘em it was awesome he is goofy but real down to earth chill cat cool as the fan!!!!

  • http://atm Raider O

    BSJ,

    None taken. I like jokes, but not insults.
    Don’t let what happened yesterday force you to be more PC. Please! I like your sense if humor.

  • Dude

    JHill,

    During the last 2 or so years, who HAS been the nickle DB on the field or as you call it “the 3rd DB”? No one else help him, trying to see if he actually watches the games.

  • jhill

    The Raiders can’t stop the run on occasions because Burgess, Edwards, Morrison, Richards all are WAY below average run defenders who need to be replaced.

    You guys want a DTs who can take up two players so those guys can run “free”. Well I’m of the belief that these guys, the NFL caliber guys that is, should be able to beat 1 guy and make a play. They should be able to fill their gap and allow the OTHER guy to make a play.

    11 guys people!

  • http://atm Raider O

    Of humor, I can’t type.

  • SnB Defense

    Dude,

    When the team gives up 159 yds a game on the ground….something needs to change. Period!

    Of course we do have Marshall….heard he was shouting this at OTAs when they were fighting at Wednesday

    “He who hath not missed a tackle cast the first stone”

    Gotta like someone who has famous quotes like that!

  • RaiderRockstar

    It gets back to the Raider pass-oriented finesse defensive strategy. They place a premium on “trying” to get QB pressure at the risk of getting scraped against the run.

    ***

    excellent point. thats just how we do things here in Oakland

    Jhill: just because a guy has the size to play a position doesn’t mean he has the skill set. Otherwise Russell could be a lineman, Bush would be a FB, Mike Williams would have been a TE (like Randal Williams & John Madsen), Janikowski would be a LB, Doug Flutie and Troy Smith would be kickers, etc etc

  • SnB Defense

    jhill Says:
    June 19th, 2009 at 11:03 am
    The Raiders can’t stop the run on occasions because Burgess, Edwards, Morrison, Richards all are WAY below average run defenders who need to be replaced.
    =======================================================
    They drafted Matt Shaughnessy and brought in Greg Ellis. Don’t forget about Franz Joseph

  • http://atm Raider O

    SnB

    LMAO @ 259!!! Classic quote.

  • jhill

    Although, had they drafted Ron Brace…then you could rotate Kelly/Warren at UT and Brace/Sands at NT and be all set.

    —————————————————

    See …

    If simply adding a 2nd rd NT out of this past years draft makes our DL set, then you obviously don’t think our top 3 guys area bad at all.

  • jhill

    Dude,

    Uhhhh ….

    3rd DB? uhhhh.

    Wait, wait …

    Uhhhh

    Charles Woodson?

  • Dude

    I am just stunned that someone is actually defending the DTs on this team. Stunned! DTs make LBs, not the other way around.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Of course we do have Marshall….heard he was shouting this at OTAs when they were fighting at Wednesday

    “He who hath not missed a tackle cast the first stone”

    ***

    LOL. kudos to Marsh! not just Kelly, but Branch is even knocking Cooper Carlisle on his can

    Cable and new OL coach take note! can anybody else play RG as well or better than Coop?

  • http://atm Raider O

    OAK,

    That just made me like him even more.

    You love Rap, don’t you? Is that your Fav?

  • Dude

    So, you cant answer? LOL! Seriously, lets hear it.

  • jhill

    That wasn’t right?

    AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!

    Do I get a second guess?

  • Dude

    SnB, Rocker or O,

    Nickel DB the last few years??

  • SnB Defense

    jhill Says:
    June 19th, 2009 at 11:06 am
    Although, had they drafted Ron Brace…then you could rotate Kelly/Warren at UT and Brace/Sands at NT and be all set.

    —————————————————

    See …

    If simply adding a 2nd rd NT out of this past years draft makes our DL set, then you obviously don’t think our top 3 guys area bad at all.
    ======================================================
    I would have been happy because then the defensive lineup would have been technically sound.

    You have the UTs playing their position and the run stopping NT playing their position. Of course I am assuming that Tommy Kelly will step up his play. Gerard Warren is out of position.

    Ron Brace would be a huge upgrade over having Gerard Warren playing the wrong position. As for Terdell Sands…notice how I still have him as the depth guy…where he belongs.

    Brace was drafted by Bill Belicheck. They even traded up with our speed oriented management to get the job done. That alone suggests he has some excellent potential. yes, his track record has been that good.

  • SnB Defense

    Dude Says:
    June 19th, 2009 at 11:10 am
    SnB, Rocker or O,

    Nickel DB the last few years??
    =====================================================
    Stanford Routt

  • RaiderRockstar

    Huff, Routt and Baker all got time in our nickel and dime packages last year. Justin Miller as well.

    JM started against the Bucs though and got torched on that one pass play from Garcia to Clayton

    CJ manhandled Antonio Bryant though, who had a pro bowl type season …

  • http://atm Raider O

    Dude,

    265, exactly!!!!

    That’s it!!!! That’s the 3rd time I agree with Dude this week!!! I’m gong to see my DR, something is not right! lol

  • Dude

    Ding, ding, ding. Stanford Routte. Of course only the people who watch the games would know that. Do you even know who that is JHill?

  • jhill

    Dude …

    Please up your posting game a few notches!

    Do U really want someone to respond to the silly azz ? of who was the Raiders nickle corner the past 2 years?

    R U really that stupid to try and have that as a ? that legitimizes someone?

    You should probably just sit back and observe the posts rather than try and join in.

    I’d rather babble with MR.

  • SnB Defense

    Raider O Says:
    June 19th, 2009 at 11:06 am
    SnB

    LMAO @ 259!!! Classic quote.
    =======================================================
    Well, that’s what Marshall is expected to deliver. I also heard that Marshall was late to the OTAs. In fact he missed the first week.

    He finally showed up for the 2nd week with two stone tablets in his hand

  • Dude

    O,

    You just get smarter with age, thats all.

  • jhill

    I have no idea who Stanford Routte is …

    You got me on that one!

  • http://atm Raider O

    Stanford R, and Miller will compete. Can’t make all that money just to play ST! IMHO

  • Dude

    JHill,

    Well done. Clap, clap, clap. You obviously dont watch the games cause you dont know sheet about the team. ANYONE who has watched the Raiders the last few years would know a simple question like that. If you would have known you would have answered it just to get me to shut up. You didnt, so you resorted to playing dumb.

  • http://atm Raider O

    LMFAO @ 277!!!!!!

  • SnB Defense

    Now the Raiders are looking at Jon Alston for the SLB spot. Now here is another speedy player. Is he going to hold the point, can he shed blockers?

    What does Alston weight? 220? Perhaps he would makea nice WILL…but then again the Raiders already have that position locked down…More speed, speed, speed, speed.

    That’s why Ricky Brown is moved inside….doesn’t have that Raider speed.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    LAKERS LAKERS LAKERS

  • Dude

    Now your trying to get me cause I put an E on the end of his name. LOL! Watch a few games and get back to me, cause you cant comment if you dont watch the games.

  • http://atm Raider O

    SnB

    2 stone Tablets in his hands
    LMFAO

    Can he heal a sick defense, that can’t stop the run for the last 6+ years, can he?? lol

  • jhill

    Actually SnB,

    Alston is up in the 230′s

    I think Dakota instantly went to the HGH card.

  • http://atm Raider O

    Here comes the real troublemaker!!!

  • http://atm Raider O

    Hide your women and children, here comes Dakota!! And your Goats!!

  • Dude

    Jon Alston is a STer/LB for the Raiders. He wears number 55. Since you dont watch the games I thought I would let you know. No need to thank me, bro. Your welcome.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    The NFL is completely juiced up, anyone with a brain can see it. Only the WWE has more fake muscles…

  • http://atm Raider O

    Dude,

    Some think he will start this season next to TH and Kirk, what do you think?

  • RaiderRockstar

    That’s why Ricky Brown is moved inside….doesn’t have that Raider speed.

    ***

    Alston added 15 lbs of muscle during the offseason

    will he be any bettle vs. the run? who knows?

    Cable said he’s just a 3rd down OLB as recently as last week.

    Brown is a tackling machine of the Greg Biekert mold. He’s healthy and he’s taking on a new role as both starting OLB (strong side) and back up MLB

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    A typical NFL DE makes McGuire, Bonds and Sosa look small. What a joke.

  • SnB Defense

    Raider O,

    Good thing for Marshall that the 1st game is on Monday Night.

    Heard he has a 2nd job on Sundays

  • http://atm Raider O

    SnB and Dude,

    I agree with you, undersized and never made the rotation except after injuries.
    He added weight and he is 235 now, he was practicing with the 1st unit, but that does mean much now. I want to see how they all play in pre season. That will tell us a lot.

  • SnB Defense

    I heard the Raiders will have a Bapt!st choir, complete with the piano, to chear on the defense.

  • http://atm Raider O

    SnB,

    Stop it, you are killing me!!! LMAO

    I know what you mean, but he did do MIRACLES with that Seattle D! lol

  • http://atm Raider O

    Jul 4th!!

    Dakota,

    You still have time, get your Rep friends and do what you do best. WAR!!! lol

  • SnB Defense

    Raider O,

    This is the new hype music for the defense and our DC

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD1FYDOM4Ts