Raiders’ offseason: What we don’t know
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, June 22nd, 2009 at 9:03 am in Oakland Raiders.
Things that remain a mystery as the Raiders go their separate ways before reporting to training camp in Napa on July 29, with the first practice the following day:
– Can Ted Tollner and Paul Hackett provide the kind of stability and teaching JaMarcus Russell needs to build on his final six games of the 2009 season?
Tollner, at the behest of Tom Cable, was said to have added deeper routes and that played to Russell’s strength, although there was little in the way of evidence to support that in public practices.
Russell went through three playcallers in his first year as a starter and needs to identify himself this year as a player who can carry not only a passing game, but an entire team.
– What is Cable’s plan for the ascension of Michael Bush? I know, wise guys, it’s Al Davis who decides. Not so fast. Cable is on what Lane Kiffin called the “honeymoon” afforded to new Raiders head coaches.
Lance was right on this one. New coaches get a lot of rope, just enough to usually hang themselves, in many cases. Getting the sort of performance out of Bush the Raiders got in the season finale is something Davis wants to see.
It’s up to Cable to make it happen and in the process de-emphasize Justin Fargas.
– Assuming Mario Henderson is the left tackle, when does Cable make the move with Khalif Barnes to the right side? He said at one point he could do it as late as preseason games and everything would be fine.
I’ll defer to his expertise along the offensive line, but that seems a little late in the game when the issue is protecting the franchise quarterback.
– How good is new line coach Jim Michalczik? The running game will carry this team, and Cable as a head coach appears to be much more of a delegator than the man who attempted to wear all hats as an interim head coach.
– Can the Raiders’ woeful run defense be repaired with more due diligence with regard to discipline, rather than a major change in personnel and philosophy? No way to tell during no-contact practices in the offseason.
You’re up, John Marshall.
– Jeff Garcia, Lorenzo Neal and Greg Ellis are in the house. Are their teammates listening? Warren Sapp has his doubts, as expressed to Peter King.
Sapp is fond of exaggerating to make a point, occasionally stretching the bounds of credibility, but it’s true a lot of young players simply don’t want to hear it.
Jerry Rice even attended the Raiders final OTA. If the receiving corps was stifling a group yawn, there was no mention of it on the Raiders’ Twitter account.
– Will Darrius Heyward-Bey and Mike Mitchell be healthy enough come training camp to make a run at being contributors in the first quarter of the season? They’ve both been hampered by bad hamstrings pretty much since their first minicamp.
– What roles do Javon Walker and Derrick Burgess have with the 2009 Raiders?
Walker has been around, and according to Florida rookie Louis Murphy, has even been helpful as he recovers from the knee surgery which surprised his employer. Burgess has been a no-show and in the final year of his contract.
Walker is getting his payday regardless on a renegotiated contract, the question is whether he can still be anything remotely approaching the receiver he once was. The Raiders may be waiting with Burgess to see if any team loses a pass rusher during training camp in order to get the maximum in trade value.
There appears to be no such mystery with Andrew Walter, who should be a camp arm along with Danny Southwick until the one-time quarterback of the future gets his exit visa.
– Can the Raiders get anything out of Michael Huff?
The No. 7 overall pick in 2006 is nearing bust status. Some say he’s already there. Huff remains an infuriating step late in coverage and isn’t the kind of physical presence Oakland likes in its safeties. Tyvon Branch and Mitchell push him further down the ladder.
– Will Nnamdi Asomugha get the chance to shadow the opponent’s top receiver? He seems to think there’s a chance it could happen on occasion.
– Is Chris Johnson too good to be true? Cornerbacks simply don’t identify themselves as elite at age 29. The Raiders are pinching themselves on this one, signing him to a lucrative four-year contract that they’ve never announced to this day, perhaps concerned Johnson’s performance after the DeAngelo Hall fiasco was a mirage.
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June 22nd, 2009 at 9:07 am
Is Russell a mental midget? another Jeff George or Daunte Culpepper?
No but lance and ol johnnie boy sure as hell are!!!!!!!!
PLAYOFF BOUND!!!1
IN CABLE WE TRUST!!!!!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:12 am
Will Nnamdi Asomugha get the chance to shadow the opponent’s top receiver? He seems to think there’s a chance it could happen on occasion.
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On occasion maybe?!?!? but isnt it more effective to shut down one side of the field????
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:12 am
we know everything =)
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:14 am
4eva……
only the SHADOW knows……..
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:18 am
repost to BSJ:
When I see Russell read defenses and call effective audibles I will be on board with his football IQ. If Tollner/Hackett can’t teach it to him no one can.
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Agreed. the kid has a lot to prove. Davis gave him a HC he’s familiar with (Cable) who wasn’t afraid to take the “training wheels off”, legit QB coaches (Tollner/Hackett), Barnes/Pears at tackle, DHB/Murphy at WR, Neal at FB, Satele at C, Myers at TE
we could have taken the S&B approach and overhauled the D-Line in both free agency and the draft and allowed the offense another year to get it together with the same clowns: Harris, Green, Curry, Lelie, Griffith, Wade, Stewart
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:18 am
I see that Oaklifer!!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:19 am
repost:
Why don’t we blame Brad Roll for the hammy injuries?
he’s the strength/conditioning coach!
Should he make DHB, Mitchell, Murphy, etc run full 4.3 “raider speed” 30 seconds after they get off the bus?
It should be his job to make sure these guys get stretched out before getting on the football field imo
Seems to be a ton of Raider injuries in OTA’s the last 2 years since Roll replaced Jeff Fish. Pretty sad, considering it’s NO CONTACT!
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:28 am
isnt it more effective to shut down one side of the field????
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If Chris Johnson is the real deal it won’t matter.
Like Mario Henderson, he’ll have to prove that he can do it on an island and for an entire season.
If CJ or Nnamdi get injured they better put the best CB on the best WR. I don’t want to see Brandon Marshall, Dwayne Bowe or Vincent Jackson covered by Stanford Routt, Justin Miller or even worse John Bowie!
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:35 am
What roles do Javon Walker and Derrick Burgess have with the 2009 Raiders?
Walker has been around, and according to Florida rookie Louis Murphy, has even been helpful as he recovers from the knee surgery which surprised his employer. Burgess has been a no-show and in the final year of his contract.
Walker is getting his payday regardless on a renegotiated contract, the question is whether he can still be anything remotely approaching the receiver he once was. The Raiders may be waiting with Burgess to see if any team loses a pass rusher during training camp in order to get the maximum in trade value.
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Walker will be the #1 WR (when healthy) and have a 1000 yard season as Russell’s go to guy. Will also prove to be a good locker room presence and veteran mentor. Schilens & Higgins will post good numbers as the #2 & #3 options. Miller will lead all TE’s in receptions and make the Pro Bowl.
Burgess will be replaced in the starting line up by Greg Ellis at LDE. Trevor Scott will replace Jay Richardson at RDE. D-Burg will prove to be an excellent situational pass rusher and post double digit sack totals and enters next offseason as a hot commodity in free agency.
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:39 am
raiderrockstar: part of the holding players accountable is not blaming a coach of 86 players (or whatever the number) for a few guys lack of concern to be ready when the practice horn goes off.
I do agree that if there is a rash of injuries then he’s on the block but these are not 12yr olds. These guys are professionals. Read the check they cash each week! They need to have their body ready to play (stretched). It’s on the players.. period. Conditioning COACH is there to assist.
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:40 am
Opinions result from perceptions, and perceptions reinforce Opinions, which then further control perceptions, in a repeating loop that logic can never penetrate. (Only a shocking new perception, too strong to get edited out by Opinion, can break this self-hypnotic loop.)
Korzybski
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:42 am
there were games last year where namdi had nothing to do and they’re top receivers were blistering the other side.
we’ll see. i’m sure they’ll mix up the coverages.
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:42 am
I agree,I think!!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:42 am
raider tw. that is pretty good. did you read that or is that yours??
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:43 am
TW: you lost me after “opinions” , but you had me from “hello” …
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:49 am
CT: a coach’s job is to teach, instruct and motivate. If a guy on the “coaching” staff can’t do that, he should be canned …
Should players be aware of what their body can and can’t do? sure, but I think that is something learned.
this is the NFL and we’re talking about rookies here. Most of these kids have relied on athletism and skill to get them up to this point. I imagine the work gets harder when you jump from being a college kid who does it for fun to a professional who does this for a living.
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:51 am
be back later. lunch time
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:52 am
Jerry referring to Kiffin as “Lance” still kills me every time.
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:55 am
he deserves that and a LOT more,imo
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:57 am
I think Johnson should be OK. He’s always had the speed/size combo to play corner but hasn’t had much of a chance in the past. Maybe whatever Deion (and Darren Perry) taught him made the game finally just click for him. He was tested a ton last year with Nnamdi on the other side and was consistently very, very impressive. I think it was wise to sign him for about $3 mil per year, which I believe was his deal.
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:58 am
From MSN~
Drink the Kool-Aid
Definition: To enthusiastically perform a task or follow a leader without knowing how this may affect you or to buy the “company line” without question. In business, you may hear someone say, “He drank the Kool-Aid,” when he means, “He has been thoroughly trained in the program and we have his unconditional support,”
or “He is on board with our strategy.”
I AM GUILTY!!!
IN CABLE I TRUST!!!
PLAY OFF BOUND!!!!
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ct raider Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:42 am
there were games last year where namdi had nothing to do and they’re top receivers were blistering the other side.
we’ll see. i’m sure they’ll mix up the coverages.
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I see you and double R’s points it would keep the D guessing…..and hey it works in basketball!!!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:59 am
Jerry referring to Kiffin as “Lance” still kills me every time.
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LMAO!!! definitly not a typo!!!!! kid kiffie and Jerry weren’t the closest of homies I take it!!!!LOL
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:01 am
Ct, I credited it to Alfred Korzybski who was brilliant at semantics. Words “hypnotize” Human beings cannot experience the world directly, but only through their “abstractions” (nonverbal impressions or “gleanings” derived from the nervous system, and verbal indicators expressed and derived from language).
In other words Sapp has always been full of s#!T, but that’s just MY opinion1 lol
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:01 am
If they’re going to leave Nnamdi on one side most of the time, shouldn’t it be on the QB’s right? I believe he plays to the QB’s left right now. Since most QB’s are right-handed and it’s generally easier for them to throw that way instead of across their body, shouldn’t we at least try to play him on that side? I remember seeing a piece on NFLN about Rick Mirer and how he was very good his rookie year, then teams found out he was terrible at throwing to the left side of the field and that’s why he tanked all of a sudden.
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:04 am
raiderrockstar: fire the s&c coach and fine dhb. I’m on board.
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:16 am
tw: that’s my opinion as well (sapp). he never (even at tampa) could stop the run. also, works on my perception of the hamstring issue being fault of the hamstring holder.
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:17 am
i was dead wrong on kiffin! I thought he would be the man but he’s a whiny little b……. hope florida beats the hell out of them! lol
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:21 am
Peter King’s column about Derrick Brooks, linked to in Jerry’s writeup above, is pretty interesting. I don’t know really where Brooks would fit in in Oakland, but I wish there was some way to find a spot for him here. I have a strong feeling he could really take Morrison and Howard and even Alston to the next level. I also know our LBs make up a good chunk of our special teams corps with Ekejuba and Sam Williams and all and there are several rookies vying for a spot. But I don’t think the Raiders would regret having Brooks around for a year or two.
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:21 am
Every single florida resident has Sept 19th circled on my,their calendar.We are frothing at the mouth 4 a piece of lil lance
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:24 am
and its in Gainesville!!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:25 am
Sat
Sep 19 Tennessee Gainesville, FL TBA
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:33 am
Gators-63
tenn-0
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:35 am
RE: Nnamdi…
If Nnamdi has the ability to shut down half the field then why hasn’t the Raider coaches put HIM on an island and rotate the defense to the other side to force QB’s to throw at him? He needs a chance to be the play maker we all know he is. It is a waste to make him the highest paid corner if we can’t force the other teams to have to throw his way.
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:36 am
As for Russell: The Raiders coaching staffs have failed Russell. You surround the guy with coaches that were hired to be fired….coaches that didn’t have much to offer the guy in terms of preperation etc…veterans on the offense who could give a rip about preparation like Javon Walker…surround him with talent like Ashlie Lelie and Ronald Curry…keep the best players on the bench and give him the worst left tackle in the NFL….and you guys were expecting him to turn that into a pro-bowl season? Really!!!!
You criticize him for his work ethic. Well, his first offseason saw his coaches threatening to quit and the owner threatening to fire them. Don’t think there is a lot of time spend watching film with the coaches? Did Russell even know who his starting receivers were going to be going into camp last year? Could you see those vets taking time out of their schedule to work with Russell? I will bet you cash that Zach Miller and Russell developed a chemistry because they probably did do some type of work together. The rest of the roster was a bunch of stiffs.
Thanks to a holdout….a COMPLETELY DYSFUNCTIONAL TEAM LAST YEAR…to me this year is a clean slate…this is the 1st year he has a competent team around him and a coaching staff actually dedicated to the task at hand.
Enough with the comparisons to guys like Flacco, Ryan and others….they actually got healthy starts with functional organizations!
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:39 am
good point 33&34
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:44 am
CT: fine DHB?
highly doubtful. Walker’s contract didn’t have an injury claus (out) after 2 major knee operations.
Why would DHB’s contract have one for a pulled (”sore” according to Cable) hamstring?
players don’t lose their job due to injury under the Cable regime and we saw that last year with Fargas & Harris returning and stinking up the place. Obviously Cable doesn’t blame injuries on the players or throw them in the dog house. It’s just the nature of the game. Football is a violent sport, man …
DHB will be given every chance to make an impact in year 1 as a Raider. He was the most heavily scrutinized pick in the entire draft and Al Davis wants to prove everybody wrong. How would that look if Crabtree finished the season with 90 catches, 1500 yards and 12 TD’s and Heyward-Bey finished with 12 catches, 180 yards and no scores? TERRIBLE
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:48 am
wow…. atlanta was functional? ryan made them functional. must re-read prior to season. Most papers had them going 0-16.
He was the top pick and held out his first year to make all these millions. He can’t be an avg joe going to camp. he needed to be a super God for what he obviously felt he was (to have the balls to hold out until after the season started).
i’ll still never forget watching him wanting nothing to do with playing in GB. If he did any kind of prep prior to getting to camp the atmosphere would have been different. If the raiders started out 3-0, it would have been different. Instead, he came in way over weight, unprepard after sitting on his butt since LSU days (didn’t work in practice or games for the raiders).
i agree the rest were idiots but you have to bring your game and be prepared for you and he wasn’t. He doesn’t have a work ethic. Again, it is his responsibility to come in prepared. If he works with morons than that will show but what shows is he did nothing over the winter and again this year. THat is why Cable is all over him to LEAD and develop. JRuss REFUSES to do anything on his own and now Cable, called a workout session w/rcvrs and tes. Do you really think Jruss called that week of practice??? Really?? he’d rather be home.
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:51 am
Hamstring injuries happen. Hopefully the training staff will manage them better than they managed DMAC’s turf toe last year.
I find it interesting that three rookies went down with the sammething and Chaz Schilens missed some time as well.
I am no expert. But I would hope the training staff is mindfull of what happened this last month.
Also, can someone tell me what’s going on with Arman Shields? He hasn’t played a full football game since December of 2007
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:51 am
it’s not doubtful but illegal. but should be. couldn’t care less about walker.
I believe all pro athletes should have the hamstring clause.
DHB has a preventable injury due to lack of preparation (stretching).
Injuries will happen. football is physical. running a route in non-contact practice is not.
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:54 am
Justin Griffith – Seahawks
Ronald Curry – Lions
Jake Grove – Dolphins
Gibril Wilson – Dolphins
DeAngelo Hall – Redskins
Robert Thomas – Redskins
Rashad Baker – Eagles
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S&B: how do you thinks these guys will do with their new teams?
… and why haven’t Tui, Carter, Lelie, Wakefield, Edwards, Waddell, etc. been signed yet in free agency ???
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:56 am
CT Raider,
Why should JaMarcus Russell take less money if he was the #1 pick? Why? Did Matt Stafford take less money? Matt Ryan got a ton of money too Hell even Brady Quinn held out…..Here’s the deal…if you draft a QB with the 1st overall pick, you have to be prepared to pay 1st overall money. That’s the way the system is. Again, speaking as regular wage earner, its easy to say that he shouldn’t have held out…but that easy to say when such an opportunity would never be presented to you. That was all on the Raiders and they ended up paying the money anyways. Gets back to the front office issues in Oakland.
Now if you have an issue with the system itself…that’s not a JaMarcus Russell issue…that’s a league issue.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:01 am
Truth is our front office sucks! Now that Millen got fired we hav the worst GM in the league. Look at our drafts, our free agency hirings, and um, oh yeah, at our dirt cheap coaching staff!
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:02 am
Why is it that Vets say that you go to Oakland to die as a player…or is it the rookies that say that?
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:04 am
i don’t think he should take less money. BUt he should step up if he’s going to take it.
Look what Matt Ryan did.
Its a work ethic issue. He stole the money without ever feeling responsibility. Matt Ryan took a team in shambles and put them on his shoulder. HUGE DIFFERENCE. who would you rather have? I still want CJ and would have taken a qb in the 3rd.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:05 am
the issue was never how much JR would get paid.the issue was the structure of the contract and whether the Raiders could recoup some of the money if JR turned out to be like Mike-guaranteed money.the total amount was pretty much agreed upon and set by the rookie scale(lack of better word).
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:05 am
didnt Robert Thomas except a injury settlement with da Raiders???And he is able 2 sign with another team???
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:06 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:54 am
Justin Griffith – Seahawks
Ronald Curry – Lions
Jake Grove – Dolphins
Gibril Wilson – Dolphins
DeAngelo Hall – Redskins
Robert Thomas – Redskins
Rashad Baker – Eagles
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S&B: how do you thinks these guys will do with their new teams?
Justn Griffin will be fine…he’s in a familiar system with coaches that like him. Griffin is not a power blocking fullback so it was good to let him go.
Gibril Wilson & Jake Grove will do well. They were good players for the most part. I think Paul Pasqaloni will not leave Wilson exposed in coverage and use his strengths as a hitter. Grove has to stay healthy though but did handle some good NTs
deAngelo Hall: He will do okay because he will be in a cover 2 zone system. The Raiders really exposed their incompetence in talent evaluation with this signing. THis is not the Madden video game…players have to have their skillsets match the scheme
Baker, Thomas and Curry will be fortunate to make their respective 53 man rosters…role players at best
… and why haven’t Tui, Carter, Lelie, Wakefield, Edwards, Waddell, etc. been signed yet in free agency ???
Those players have not been signed because they are not NFL caliber players. You could also ask why Kwame Harris, Seth Wand are still on the street. The sad thing is that there are projected starters still on the roster that, if released today, would be in this latter category
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:06 am
our evaluating sucks. guy can throw 80 yards … so lets make him a franchise qb. ryan could throw. The dude baltimore gave up on threw 65 yards from his knees.
Los Radiers: i think it was sapp who said that. he killed of dungy as their coach. so take it for what its worth.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:07 am
CT: sure, 3 years later everybody says we should have taken Calvin Johnson & Trent Edwards
why sit back and think “what could have been” ?
terrible point to bring at S&B anyways. He’s all about the D-Line, which got comepletely neglected in the draft for like the 10th year in a row!
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:10 am
CT Raider,
The Falcons had a plan. They hired a head coach who didn’t fight with the GM and Owner and made it to the end of the year. The Falcons hired and retained a credible Offensive Coordinator in Mike Mularkey for the entire season. The team got their QB into camp on time. Their head coach got rid of the headaches…like deAngelo Hall…The Falcons had a couple of receivers with actual talent. The Falcons added a power running game to support their young QB (Falcons were in the top 3 in rushing attempts). The Falcons drafted a LT in the 1st round that was solid…
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:10 am
# itzSteve Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:35 am
RE: Nnamdi…
If Nnamdi has the ability to shut down half the field then why hasn’t the Raider coaches put HIM on an island and rotate the defense to the other side to force QB’s to throw at him? He needs a chance to be the play maker we all know he is. It is a waste to make him the highest paid corner if we can’t force the other teams to have to throw his way.
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I think the entire nation agrees, but the problem is we want to run a mano v mano setup and not over ‘complicate’ the scheme.
Thats the ONLY reason I can think as to why he hasnt otherwise he should have been the majority of last season.
We wanted to try that two safety = no FS or SS philosophy so conventional wisdom would say the same, then again as we are constantly reminded…. throw out conventional wisdom in Raider discussions.
Lombardi may be an a$$, but he does hold some truths that can only be know from being on the inside of 1220 Harbor BayParkway
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:12 am
lefty12 Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:05 am
the issue was never how much JR would get paid.the issue was the structure of the contract and whether the Raiders could recoup some of the money if JR turned out to be like Mike-guaranteed money.the total amount was pretty much agreed upon and set by the rookie scale(lack of better word).
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Regardless, that stuff should have been handled prior to or right after the draft
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:12 am
Those players have not been signed because they are not NFL caliber players. You could also ask why Kwame Harris, Seth Wand are still on the street. The sad thing is that there are projected starters still on the roster that, if released today, would be in this latter category
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Ah. nice catch on Harris & Wand!
Agreed. too many guys making the team who should be cut as camp fodder or competition for the real NFL calibur players. Maybe we should start drafting football players instead of track athletes? That might help keep better guys on the field and leave the scrubs on the market …
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:13 am
Can the Raiders’ woeful run defense be repaired with more due diligence with regard to discipline, rather than a major change in personnel and philosophy?
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I doubt it, there is a major talent issue at hand here. When 25% of the games from the previous year (Den opener, Saints, Pat, and Falcons) the team could have scored 50+ if they had too, it isn’t just due to lack of “due dilligence with regard to discipline”.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:15 am
CT Raider,
Yeah, Trent Edwards, Drew Stanton and John Beck are really ripping it up out there
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:15 am
good afternoon Vegas.
how you doing man? still employed?
hope all things got sorted out and are better than they were on Thurs/Fri of last week
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:17 am
Terrell Owens might cost Trent Edwards & Dick Jauron both their jobs!
note to self: never lobby the Owner or GM for a headcase
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:17 am
Russell,Oneal,Bush,Mac,JLH,Chaz,Miller,Henderson,Gallery,Scott,Howard,Morrison,Nnamdi,all safeties,Lechter,and Janokowski.all starters and all drafted by us.those who say we can’t draft don’t know what they are talking about.every team drafts Huffs once in a while,we just notice it more when it happens to ourselves.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:18 am
Mario Henderson-T-Raiders Jun. 22 – 1:45 pm et
Agent Drew Rosenhaus revealed on his Twitter page that Raiders LT Mario Henderson has signed with Rosenhaus Sports.
Henderson, penciled in as the Raiders’ starting left tackle ahead of Khalif Barnes, has two years remaining on his rookie deal. He’ll surely angle for a contract extension next offseason if he keeps the position all year.
Source: Drew Rosenhaus on Twitter
Does this mean hes holding out next offseason?
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:20 am
CT Raiders Says: He was the top pick and held out his first year to make all these millions. He can’t be an avg joe going to camp. he needed to be a super God for what he obviously felt he was (to have the balls to hold out until after the season started).
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Contracts are more about agents, finance guys and negotiation. The player largely stays out of it. Al Davis and company new roughly what a 1st overall QB would demand in the marketplace. If they didn’t think he was worth it…they shouldn’t have drafted him. Russell should not sacrifice his earnings to make a fan feel better. You wouldn’t do it at your job.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:20 am
Those players have not been signed because they are not NFL caliber players. You could also ask why Kwame Harris, Seth Wand are still on the street. The sad thing is that there are projected starters still on the roster that, if released today, would be in this latter category
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Seth Wand got drafted in the UFL.. lol..
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:21 am
Good afternoon Nation.
TW,
Logic is overrated, who needs logic when you have perception? lol
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:24 am
CT Raider says: i’ll still never forget watching him wanting nothing to do with playing in GB. If he did any kind of prep prior to getting to camp the atmosphere would have been different. If the raiders started out 3-0, it would have been different. Instead, he came in way over weight, unprepard after sitting on his butt since LSU days (didn’t work in practice or games for the raiders).
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How was he supposed to look sitting on the bench in sub-zero weather. How do you know he didn’t want to play? Again, he missed camp and that basically made the season a wash. You don’t just throw someone out there if they are not ready. The reps in practice go to the starter and 2nd string QBs. He did not come into camp his rookie year overweight. And I also seemed to remember reading that DeFilipo worked with Russell to the side while the rest of the team went through reps. Again, they can’t extend practice another extra hour for a guy not projected to play. I also seem to remember Russell doing pretty well in the last game against San Diego. Hardly a guy that didn’t work in the game???
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:25 am
snb… you’re missing the point. he took the money because Al thought he was responsible and man enough to lead this team.. which he clearly is not. You compared him to Matt Ryan which is ridiculous. Matt took a team in a similiar situation as the raiders and worked his butt off before camp and put that team on his back w/no excuses. He manned up and led. Al thought he was getting the same attributes along with a great arm. miscalculated
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:26 am
SnB-Davis took the player he wanted(Russell).he realizes its a business and sometimes in business there are hang-ups on deals.it seems the Russell holdout and delay in his signing bothers some fans more than it does Davis.besides,JR wouldn’t have started right out of the gate anyway-the Raider way,which i know you don’t like or agree with-but it is what it is.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:27 am
CT Raider says: i agree the rest were idiots but you have to bring your game and be prepared for you and he wasn’t. He doesn’t have a work ethic. Again, it is his responsibility to come in prepared. If he works with morons than that will show but what shows is he did nothing over the winter and again this year. THat is why Cable is all over him to LEAD and develop. JRuss REFUSES to do anything on his own and now Cable, called a workout session w/rcvrs and tes. Do you really think Jruss called that week of practice??? Really?? he’d rather be home.
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Again more unsubstantiated assertions on your part. You don’t know if Russell works or doesn’t work. Also, what if Cable, Tollner and Hackett were the coaches in 2007 AND Russell didn’t have the hold out. Where would Russell be now? You also assume that Cable told Russell to get the players together. That’s just being negative and you have NO way of knowing otherwise.
Russell is a young QB on what has been a very poorly coached and managed football team. Now that there are others out there working and there are coaches actually providing structure and guidance…we should start to see this team turn the corner.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:28 am
snb: take edwards over jr any day and we wouldn’t have cap issues and we’d have a top notch wr.
edwards, cj over jr and dhb… i don’t know let me think about it,. HELLO
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:30 am
CT Raider: do you think Russell could throw for 3000 yards or 30 TD’s in 16 games against a UFL or CFL team?
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:31 am
JR got paid due to him being a #1 pick!!! If you want to blame someone, it should be Al!
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:31 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:07 am
CT: sure, 3 years later everybody says we should have taken Calvin Johnson & Trent Edwards
why sit back and think “what could have been” ?
terrible point to bring at S&B anyways. He’s all about the D-Line, which got comepletely neglected in the draft for like the 10th year in a row!
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Hey, I didn’t even mention the defense today. But since you baited me……
I think the best friend of a young QB is a good defense and an excellent running game
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:34 am
ct-would you really take Edwards over JR?edwards is what he is.what you see is what you will always get from him.JR on the other hand still has plenty of room to improve.you know you can’t really judge a QB for at least 3-5 years.Russell should develop into a much better QB than Edwards,it will just take more time.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:36 am
wow.. we have excuses for every player. no wonder we’re in last place every year.
i would love to play for oakland and never have to be accountable… it was bad coaching.
as my dad said, “if you’re teacher is so stupid then read up and teach him”
Basically, our leader is a follower. “change occurs when the cost (or pain) to stay the same exceeds change”
there isn’t any cost for the players… they had bad coaching. How do you know when you had a good coach with a bad player?
Is it when he publicly states the qb is not doing the off season work needed to win in the nfl? Cable did that. if russell fails… he had a bad coach again.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:38 am
Rockstar,
I’m all right thanks for asking. Still “in limbo” if you will, I think they want me to beg for forgiveness and my job back and I just don’t roll that way. They are totally trying to cover their a$$ and are acting like girls IMO, so I am already looking elsewhere. I’ll be fine though, cleared the head with a little golf, BBQ’ing and beer drinking this weekend.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:40 am
lefty: i (as i wrote in this forum 3yrs ago) wanted CJ #1. It was publically known that edwards would have been available in the third.
I don’t see the upside. His decision making isn’t horrible and he doesn’t work on it (off season)
he doesn’t have any mobility.
He doesn’t extend a play
he doesn’t extend a drive
he can throw 80 yards. he hasn’t made his line better, wr better or rbs better.
1. cj
2. miller
3. edwards not a bad draft
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:40 am
ct raider Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:25 am
snb… you’re missing the point. he took the money because Al thought he was responsible and man enough to lead this team.. which he clearly is not. You compared him to Matt Ryan which is ridiculous. Matt took a team in a similiar situation as the raiders and worked his butt off before camp and put that team on his back w/no excuses. He manned up and led. Al thought he was getting the same attributes along with a great arm. miscalculated
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You say he clearly is not responsible and man enough to lead the team. I say you are wrong. He has never called out coaches, teammates or the organization even though it was warranted. Some people have to learn to lead before they themselves can lead. Who was the coaches? How many coaches did he have? What kind of example did the COACHES AND OWNER give this young QB last year?
Here is an example of QB leadership you probably missed:
“Henderson didn’t commit any penalties, was part of a line that didn’t allow any sacks and paved the way for 300 yards rushing. He did so in his first NFL start in, perhaps, the loudest stadium in the league.
“I had the whole team behind me,” Henderson said. “That gave me a lot of confidence.”
Quarterback JaMarcus Russell said he gave Henderson a pep talk before the game.
“I just told him, ‘No matter what happens, I’m going to be all right. If I get hit or whatever, just keep on going to the next play,’ ” Russell said. (Sunday), I didn’t get touched at all, probably twice I got hit on the ground, no sacks. I told him he did a great job.”
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:41 am
Russell was drafted because he has talent and potential.he was immature.like Vermeil did with Johnson when he said the young man has to grow up,that is what Cable did with Russell.we’ll see if it worked,but there are signs it did have an impact.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:44 am
Here is a prediction I’ll stand behind…..
You Russell bashers are going to look ridiculous as the 2009 season plays out. You really are.
This kid doesn’t throw INTs, stands with his teammates and takes constructive criticism pretty well.
Not a whiny $%#@@ or anything like that. Guy lives in Oakland during the offseason and Cable has not complained about Russell work ethic since his quote earlier that was blown out of proportion cause the guy missed some team weightlifting to be with his mother following surgery.
Ridiculous
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:44 am
if russell fails… he had a bad coach again.
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not in my book!
Cable, Tollner & Hackett weren’t exactly high in demand this offseason, but what they do have to offer is EXPERIENCE and loyalty to Al Davis.
Hard for any player to succeed when there is coaching change and dysfunctional management DURING the season. We didn’t have much talent on the team last year and the talent we did have got shelved in favor of scholarship guys or injuries …
Now that Russell has some stability I expect much better results, despite what injuires may occur at RB & WR!
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:48 am
CT Raider:
do you think Russell could throw for 3000 yards and 30 TD’s in 16 games against UFL and/or CFL teams?
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:48 am
The Russell holdout didn’t bother Al Davis, he never intended to play him the first year anyway. (Raider Ideology)
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:49 am
lefty12 Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:26 am
SnB-Davis took the player he wanted(Russell).he realizes its a business and sometimes in business there are hang-ups on deals.it seems the Russell holdout and delay in his signing bothers some fans more than it does Davis.besides,JR wouldn’t have started right out of the gate anyway-the Raider way,which i know you don’t like or agree with-but it is what it is.
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The holdout bothered me because I think the organization should have been better prepared. Just my opinon. But people thinking the guy should take a “Ricky Williams / Master P” type contract is crazy. In a capitalist society, you don’t leave money on the floor.
The holdout did set Russell back a full year. He probably doesn’t start…but I am sure he plays the last half of the year at least and gets more learning experience. Right now he only has 16 starts under his belt….another 7 or so couldn’t of hurt. Plus the prep time he lost.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:55 am
Russell couldn’t have played any worse than Josh McCown or Daunte Culpepper imo …
that team was run oriented. still is
It’s been awhile since a QB has led us to victory with his arm. Kerry Collins, and that didn’t happen very often!
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:56 am
i’m sure there were talks before the draft and Davis knew what would follow.the point is he drafted the player he wanted regardless of how long it would take to get a deal done.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:57 am
KK-exactly.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:59 am
Collins!!!! I don’t remember winning with him! 5-11!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:00 pm
RR,
I remember Gannon won with his arm, but not Collins.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Lefty
I agree it was the recoup clause that held up the deal. He was trying to protect himself against a Vick type situation. But the market parameters were pretty clear beforehand.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Gannon had a season were had 10+ games throwing for 300+ yards!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:05 pm
The good Ol’ Days.
Gannon, Garner, Brown, Rice, Porter, and a great Oline!! That was great, and fun to watch.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:08 pm
What ever happened to CB C Love? lol
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:10 pm
KK-that is what i said-the amount of money was never really the problem.
btw,many say JR hasn’t shown he can win games with his arm.in the TB game everyone seems to forget TB went up 24-14 and before Bush’s big run,JR drove the team down the field and threw a td to get us back in the game 24-21.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:11 pm
did u guys hear about mario henderson signing with drew rosenhaus if he does good this year hes getting big money
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/06/22/rosenhaus-bags-another-client/
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:12 pm
That drive not only showed off his arm, but his leadership and fire. That was big to me.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:14 pm
The TB games is a great game to build on. JR can win, Bush can run, Mario can play LT, and Chaz is a starter!
SDSU Baby!! For a small school, our players have good NFL careers.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:16 pm
16,
Where have you been dude? I hope all is well with you.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:16 pm
And it wasn’t just the numbers. Russell moved away from pressure and delivered strikes while getting hit, something we hadn’t seen early this season.
“One of the things that was a real, real joy for me yesterday was to hear the offensive line on the sideline talk to me about his leadership in the huddle,” Cable said this morning. “When we got down by 10, the first thing he did back out in the huddle was say, ‘Hey, we got this. Everybody just chill out. We got it.’ And we got down and got the big PI (on Michael Bush’s pass to Todd Watkins) and, next play, boom, he throws a great ball to Johnnie (Lee Higgins) for the touchdown. And it’s off and running.”
http://raiders.pressdemocrat.com/default.asp?item=2308619
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:21 pm
LAKERS!!!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Russell, McFadden, Bush, Chaz, JLH, Oneal…the future looks bright on offense…unless a lack of an o-line and/or Al and Cable fuk it up.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Yo 16 is in da housssseeeeeee!!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:37 pm
# itzSteve, 405
The posts about coverage/Nnamdi
I would play him on the strongside. He’s got the best instincts enabling him to break off coverage quicker than Johnson to help the LBs or safety cover TEs and back. Slant your coverage to Johnson’s side leaving the QB with the ‘easier’ dump off to the backs or ends. Fortunately Howard and Morrison give good coverage. Now, if we can stop the run………..
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:39 pm
(crickets)
See, this is what happens to the blog when we stick strictly to Raiders news in June…
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Dakota,
Do you want to talk about !ran? lol
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Yup.
Couldn’t see the screen for the tumbleweed
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Did you see that girl ( Neda)?
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Actually, I am looking at those pictures right now O.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Dakota,
Look at the video!
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
I don’t get it, why shoot her??!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
How about them Raiders? lol
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
I just shool Willie Browns hand in the line at the Safeway’s deli
He bought 2 sandwiches a Tuna & cheese and a Ham & Cheese.
I couldn’t help myself, Im 56 years old, and act like a little kid whenever I see one of those guys.
I shook his hand and told how I used to watch him and Kent McCloughan. He was mildly impressed.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Oakland has the peices to surprise alot of people this year.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:51 pm
I just shook Willie Browns hand in the line at the Safeway’s deli
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:51 pm
They probably just shot into the crowd and got her as she was just watching…bad stuff.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:54 pm
KK,
Did you ask him about the team, and what he thinks of Cable? Or were you smiling the entire time? lol
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Dakota,
How come CNN doesn’t show all what happens in Palest!ne, and we don’t care much about that area?
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:58 pm
KK,
Don’t wash your hand! lol save it, whatever IT is! lol
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:59 pm
I’ll bet Willie washed his hands, lol.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:00 pm
No, I never ask them questions, I think it’s unfair and presumptuous. I just shake hands and wish them luck. And smile.!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Dakota,
I would hope so, he was about to eat. lol
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Kell: you should have told Willie Brown how you feel about Al Davis …
he would have spit in your face
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:05 pm
KK,
LMAO
You are right sir, I’m sure he’s tired of answering other fans. That’s very considerate of you.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:05 pm
I always get a chuckle when I am away for a while and catch up on posts.
We all in one way or another drink the kool-aid because hey, thats what happens when you are a fan. But come on… some of the things people say are really a stretch.
I am sorry, I can be optimistic, but there is no way I can look at Oneal as the future because as much as we all dont want to admit it…. he may never see the NFL field again.
Last seasons preseason injury and he still isnt able to do any OTA….
I am holding out faith, just not betting the farm
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:09 pm
RR,
Maybe you should share your race views with Willie, he would have spit in your face too. Saying the N word.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:10 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Kell: you should have told Willie Brown how you feel about Al Davis …
he would have spit in your face
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Nah, I’m sure he would have just smiled and gone on about his business. He’s a bigger man than you.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Oh yeah, it’s getting chippy in here….
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:13 pm
405: I don’t think the coaching staff is “betting the farm” on Oren O’Neal coming back and being ready to go by August or September. Otherwise they wouldn’t have signed Lorenzo Neal
Luke Lawton will back him up until O’Neal is ready to come off the PUP list. If OO’s injury needs more than 2 months of rehab/recovery by the time the season starts they’ll place him on Injured Reserve (which would stink for him and us fans, but wouldn’t surprise me…)
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Willie Brown? Good for you KK…which Safeway, BTW?
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Willie Brown has been great friends with Al Davis for over 40 years.
I’m sure he would have loved to hear your thoughts about him …
Kell: you always run your mouth, but if you met AD in person, you’d kiss the rings. so would your boy MR
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:16 pm
I though about asking him how I could get my Russell Jersey signed.
That’s who I’d love to see close up. No luck so far.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:19 pm
my race views? Why would I talk to Willie about that?
has nothing to do with the Raiders, or even football in general.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Bo
We’re on Bay Farm Island aka Harbor Bay. There’s only one shopping area out here anchored by SafeWay On Island Drive. It’s the only place players can and get a sandwich or something. Over the years, I’ve seen quite a few players and coaches in there.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:21 pm
SAPPS a blabber mouth…But what he said in the article is the truth…
Players today care about 1. Money 2. Respect 3. Winning…
Look at all the players the Raiders have signed in the last few years even thought the team has sucked…
Moss, Sapp, Walker, etc.
Its about the money…Sad.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:22 pm
If I met Willie Brown I tell him “great job” developing Nnamdi & CJ into they players they are today. shutdown corners, like he used to be …
Also ask him if there is any chance Michael Huff cracks the starting line up or even makes the team this year
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Kell: you always run your mouth, but if you met AD in person, you’d kiss the rings. so would your boy MR
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Of course I would! He’s been my hero most of my life.
You don’t get any of the subtleness of life do you?
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:30 pm
If KK met Al Davis:
KK: Mr. Davis, pleased to meet you I’m a huge Raiders fan!
Al Davis: I know you. You call yourself KK on that Jack McDonald’s blog and write nasty things about me! How’s ya motha? Now get the hell outta my face.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:31 pm
this is not about me, even though you and Raider O are trying to make it that way …
I was talking about Al Davis and Willie Brown
stick to the subject, why don’t ya?
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Rockstarr
sub·tle
Pronunciation:
\ˈsə-təl\
Function:
adjective
Inflected Form(s):
sub·tler \ˈsət-lər, ˈsə-təl-ər\ ; sub·tlest \ˈsət-ləst, ˈsə-təl-əst\
Etymology:
Middle English sotil, subtile, from Anglo-French, from Latin subtilis, literally, finely textured, from sub- + tela cloth on a loom; akin to Latin texere to weave — more at technical
Date:
14th century
1 a: delicate, elusive b: difficult to understand or perceive : obscure
2 a: perceptive, refined b: having or marked by keen insight and ability to penetrate deeply and thoroughly
3 a: highly skillful : expert b: cunningly made or contrived : ingenious
4: artful, crafty
5: operating insidiously
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Not everything is black & white young man.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:31 pm
LOL @ Dakota
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:34 pm
wow KK you can copy & paste from an online dictionary
I’m so proud of you!
Still.. we were talking about football, weren’t we?
I wonder Willie thinks about the new DB coach Lionel Washington?
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:35 pm
RR,
Please dude, don’t give yourself that much credit. It’s not about you!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Well Rockstarr
Next time Willie Brown passes through Podunk, Backwoods USA, you can ask him, ok?
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:38 pm
O: I made a football comment to Kell and you responded to that with a personal comment to me. a sarcastic one at that
I know it’s not about me (I just said that, duh)
Don’t try to make it about me
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
I suppose Willie could come out this way.
TW (I think) said that Freddy B & Kenny came to Denver
Kansas City is only 3 hours from Podunk, Backwoods USA
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
I made one comment!! ONE!! Like I said, don’t give yourself too much credit.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:46 pm
lol
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Dakota,
LMAO
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I’ve seen a number of players up there, and you can’t just run up to them and start jabbering about Joe fan’s concerns. It’s rude presumptuous and arrogant. You have to take the situation into account.
Subtleties……youngster. Which you know nothing about.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:51 pm
LOL @ post # 144
Al Davis is a work out warrior, according to most things i’ve read
He’s always working out. Makes you wonder why he doesn’t require the players to follow suit?
obviously health is important to him. just not the players? just win baby
AD could outlive us all !!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:52 pm
KK,
I’m subtle! lol
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Kell: football players are just people, like you and me. same thing with actors, singers and other celebrities …
If you can’t hold a normal conversation with people you run into that’s your problem. Has nothing to do with being “subtle”
you sure aren’t subtle on this blog. Why would you be in the real world? because on here you pretend to be somebody you’re not.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Republican Govenor Missing
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Republican South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford left his mansion in a black sports utility vehicle on Thursday and hasn’t been heard from since, according to reports.
The governor’s wife told the Associated Press Monday that she does not know where the governor went. Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer also said he does not know where Sanford is — but that he has not been put in charge in the governor’s absence.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/22/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5104342.shtml
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:58 pm
RR,
There was no need for post 122, you were not even talking to me. I guess I was still bothered by your comment from the other day.
Please excuse me.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:00 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:51 pm
LOL @ post # 144
Al Davis is a work out warrior, according to most things i’ve read
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You’re such a naive little kid.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Raider O: I made some nice comments about you on Friday. unless the mod got a hold of them they should still be there. I figured you read them, but by your recent responses I’m guessing we still haven’t buried the hatchet …
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Can Uncle Al stop meddling long enough to let his coaches actually coach?
Will Uncle Al allow his coaches to instill some much needed discipline in their players?
Will Uncle Al let Jeff Garcia start if the quarterback outplays JMR in the preseason?
Is Uncle Al willing to cut non-performing high salaried players in order to make a statement to the rest of the team?
Will DHB catch more passes then he drops?
Could this offensive line effectively compete at the collegiate level?
Can the Raider nation and Davis sycophants look realistically at this team instead of engaging in mindless boosterism?
Will the Raiders win eight games this season?
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Celebrities are public people constantly approached by the public. They’ve heard all your questions millions of times.
***
Kell: how would you know that?
and how do you know AD doesn’t work out? old people and people in wheelchairs can still work out …
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Ohio: tough questions … what do u think?
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:07 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Raider O: I made some nice comments about you on Friday. unless the mod got a hold of them they should still be there. I figured you read them, but by your recent responses I’m guessing we still haven’t buried the hatchet …
______________________
where did you think you buried it? In the sand perhaps?
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Maybe, but probably no.
Yes
No
No
yes, if he gets on the field.
definetly
50%
yes
——answers from the 8 ball.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
that’s cold Dakota, even for a Republican!
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:11 pm
RR,
No bro it’s buried, life is too short to waste on such things. That’s why I asked to excuse me. ( I also read those comments) I’m sorry bro, my emotions got the best of me this time.
Do you care to say those nice things again? lol
Like I said, there was no need for that post today, so please excuse me.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:13 pm
BREAKING NEWS!
Chris Brown reached a plea agreement…he agrees to enter a guilty plea to one count of Simple Assault/Domestic Violence and the state has agreed to recommend the following sentence:
One beat down by Andrew Bynum
and a $25 dollar fine
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Hey guys I ran into your master Al Davis the other day at Wendy’s. I recorded the conversation on my Blackberry. Here is the transcript.
Al Davis: Hey kid, make your self useful and fill up my tires.
Charged Up: What?
AD: This is a gas station isn’t it?
CU: No, this is Wendy’s sir. Hey aren’t you Al Davis?
AD: That’s right. Order me a frosty! You a fan?
CU: No I hate your team. I’m a Chargers’ fan.
AD: Oh yeah. You guys have a bright future. I like that Phillip Riviera kid. You know, If I would have had him back in the 80s, we would have won at least 3 more Super Bowls. That kid is a winner. What did you say your name was again… Charged Up? That sounds familiar. Hey aren’t you one of those losers who spend way too much time on that inter web trying to do my job?
CU: No sir. You’r probably thinking of my friends RaiderRockstar, Beeecham, Madden Raider, and KoolKell.
AD: Oh yeah! Those guys are a bunch of deuches.
CU: Yeah! You know who the biggest deuche of them all is? El Dirty, he can’t even stay out of jail.
AD: Your pretty smart kid. You should come work for me in the front office….anyways, the Chargers have a bright future. I imagine they will win a Super Bowl before I do. But, we will be back to recapture our glory and take our rightful place back on top. The Raiddahs will prevail! But for now, next year’s Super Bowl champions will be the San Diego Chargers. Just Win Baby!
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Lefty12, SnB to argue with someone over Russell’s exploits so far is like argueing with aomeone over a player getting a hamstring and calling it unprofessional. Hahaha! these guy’s are just beautiful
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Way deep in the sand!! lol we have a lot if that in San Diego. That’s why I’m here, it reminds me of my old home! lol
It’s buried!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:17 pm
RaiderO,
Sand is a great preservative…so anytime you want to dig up that hatchet to hit Rockstar over the head with it, I am sure it will be in fine shape.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Priesttj, please proofread before posting. Misspelled words only weaken your argument.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Mod, what was wrong with that?
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Priest, have you ever met Al? And if so, what did you say the first time?
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Dakota,
LMAO @ 167.
Jerkjerkjerk!! I love it!! That’s my new hit!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
wow. mod is really cleaning up the place!
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Also, when someone specifies the back7 of the defense it’s not at all an indicator of his mentality. He’s just being specifi as to the portion of the defense being discussed. When you say front7 you’re saying it too exclude the secondary or back7 to exclude the Dline. Kirk was just being descriptive.
Same as when someone says I play LBer or DB or Dline they’re speaking pof a specific grouping that’s all. Not a mentality.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Smell ya later!
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:28 pm
On Chiefs Fans and Taunting
by Chris on Jun 22, 2009 1:47 PM CDT in 2009
What do you think of when you think about a Kansas City Chiefs rivalry? The Raiders? The Broncos? The Seahawks? Okay, no not the Seahawks.
A polite gentleman recently asked Primetime a few questions about taunting and what makes sports team’s fanbases tick, as he put it.
Who do you consider the Chiefs’ biggest rivals?
In years past, the answer would be without a doubt the Oakland Raiders. Historically, they probably still are our biggest rivals but in the last 15 years, the Denver Broncos have arisen as our biggest rivals.
The Raiders have had the worst six year stretch in NFL history and don’t really provide much competition (though they did beat us last season…that’s what a 2-14 record will get you!).
The Broncos have been playoff contenders nearly every season for quite some time. Though, if I had to guess, that will end with the ‘new’ Broncos and head coach Josh McDaniels.
What teams and specific NFL players do the casual or die-hard Chiefs fan hate the most?
The Raiders. We hate the Raiders all around. But hating them is slowly morphing into pity because they’re on such an awful, awful run as of late.
We also hate the Broncos, particularly John Elway. I hate Elway because he’s so good. He’s consider the ‘King of the Comeback’ by many and he broke my heart so MANY times. I’ll never forgive him for that.
He knocked the Chiefs out of the playoffs en route to their Super Bowl victory in January 1998 and his name still makes me sick to my stomach.
If you wanted to taunt players within the Chiefs’ division, who would be the biggest targets? The rest of the league?
The biggest targets would be Philip Rivers, JaMarcus Russell and Kyle Orton. Obviously, the quarterback is the face of the team (whether they like it or not…::cough::Raiders::cough) and they deserve much of the blame/credit for games.
Rivers comes off as whiny though my frustration with him comes more out of envy than anything. Russell and Orton have a lot to prove and neither have shown really anything at this point so they’ll be a fun group to laugh at this season (assuming their 2009 seasons are similar to what they’ve done in the past).
What kind of taunts would sting the casual Chiefs fan the most-going after the make-up of the fan base, individual players, coach, or the city?
Taking shots at Arrowhead stadium probably sting the most. For a long time, since the early 90s, Arrowhead has been aptly described as the Mecca of football experiences. It’s the loudest, the smell of barbecue flows and it was the hardest ticket in town.
With the Chiefs putrid six wins in the last two years, Arrowhead has lost its luster. Ticket prices are still high but they’re easy to come by now. In fact, 2008 was the first season I ever turned down tickets to a game.
Calling Arrowhead stadium “just another stadium” is probably the insult that stings the most at this point for Chiefs fans.
In less than 100 words, best describe the K.C. fan base.
Loud, devoted and lovers of all barbecue. We’re the child that really does believe that his dog was given away to a farm. We’re naive. We’ve been fooled into thinking we’re a Super Bowl contender so many times only watch the team fall flat on its face time after time. We’ll never learn.
What are the common stereotypes associated with Chief fans? In what ways are they true/false?
Missouri is one of the fattest states in America and I think that stereotype holds true at Chiefs games. Nothing against any of our fans, though, because I’m out there eating barbecue at 9:00 AM with the rest of them.
Another stereotype is that we’re obsessed with the team. This is a good stereotype to have. We’re the best fans in the NFL and have continued to “sell out” the stadium despite only winning six games in the past two seasons.
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…they are taking pity on us???…fuk them!
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Repost:
Dwaine Board has joined The Oakland Raiders coaching staff as the defensive line coach. Board, who tutored the defensive line with the Seattle Seahawks from 2003-08, previously served 23 seasons with the San Francisco 49ers, 10 as a player and 13 as an assistant coach. In 19 seasons as a coach, Board has sent players to 10 Pro Bowls and has coached one NFL Defensive Player of the Year.
From 2005-07, Board’s linemen helped Seattle rank second in the NFL with 136 sacks. His group generated 36 sacks in 2004, and in 2005, his unit contributed 32.5 of Seattle’s NFL-leading 50 sacks on the season. They also allowed just one 100-yard rusher, set the franchise mark by allowing only 94.4 rushing yards per game (5th in the NFL) and ranked second in the NFL by allowing only five rushing touchdowns.
Board made an immediate impact in his first season, helping improve Seattle’s run defense from last in the NFL to 19th in 2003, the second-greatest turnaround in the NFL behind New England. He also helped the club rank fourth in the NFC and seventh in the NFL with 41 sacks.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Is this more acceptable moderator:
Hey guys I ran into your master Al Davis the other day at Wendy’s. I recorded the conversation on my Blackberry. Here is the transcript.
Al Davis: Hey kid, make your self useful and fill up my tires.
Charged Up: What?
AD: This is a gas station isn’t it?
CU: No, this is Wendy’s sir. Hey aren’t you Al Davis?
AD: That’s right. Order me a frosty! You a fan?
CU: No I hate your team. I’m a Chargers’ fan.
AD: Oh yeah. You guys have a bright future. I like that Phillip Riviera kid. You know, If I would have had him back in the 80s, we would have won at least 3 more Super Bowls. That kid is a winner. What did you say your name was again… Charged Up? That sounds familiar. Hey aren’t you one of those losers who spend way too much time on that inter web trying to do my job?
CU: No sir. You’r probably thinking of my friends RaiderRockstar, Beeecham, Madden Raider, and KoolKell.
AD: Oh yeah! Those guys are a bunch of goof balls.
CU: Yeah! You know who the biggest goof ball of them all is? El Dirty, he can’t even stay out of jail.
AD: Your pretty smart kid. You should come work for me in the front office….anyways, the Chargers have a bright future. I imagine they will win a Super Bowl before I do. But, we will be back to recapture our glory and take our rightful place back on top. The Raiddahs will prevail! But for now, next year’s Super Bowl champions will be the San Diego Chargers. Just Win Baby!
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Met him when I was 19 in the locker room at Port of Oakland, I was actually trying to hide from him. Since then I’ve met him so many times can’t remember all the conversations.
The first conversation I can honestly remember was the time we talked outside the locker room and I asked him why he was leaving Oakland, and why can’t he stay.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Enjoy the rest of the day Gents, later Nation.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Do you really think I care enough to take the time to proofread? I’m a very slow typer with two fingers.
No time!
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Not Very Impressive, imo
Veteran coach Ted Tollner has joined The Oakland Raiders coaching staff as Passing Game Coordinator. Tollner spent 2007-’08 as an offensive assistant and quarterbacks coach in his second stint with the San Francisco 49ers.
The former Cal-Poly quarterback coached at the College of San Mateo from 1968-1972, and was the offensive coordinator at San Diego State from 1973-1980. In 1981, Tollner tutored quarterbacks at BYU.
Tollner joined the staff at Southern Cal in 1982 and became the head coach at USC in 1983. He was 26-20-1 as USC’s head coach from 1983-’86 and led the Trojans to victory in a Rose Bowl and a Pac-10 title.
Tollner, who has 46 years of coaching experience at the high school, college, and pro levels, served as the Buffalo Bills’ wide receivers coach from 1987-’88, the San Diego Chargers’ offensive coordinator from 1989-1991, and the quarterbacks coach for the then-Los Angeles Rams from 1992-’93. He returned to San Diego State as Head Coach from 1994 until 2001.
He joined the 49ers as quarterbacks coach in 2002 and was promoted to offensive coordinator in 2004. In 2005, Tollner joined the Detroit Lions’ coaching staff where he served as offensive coordinator and tight ends coach.
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June 22nd, 2009 at 2:50 pm
What is the difference between Bird Flu and Swine Flu?
For bird flu you need tweetment.
for swine flu you need oinkment.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:52 pm
KK, he’s just a QB coach and passing game coord. What are we looking for? Gruden was just OC hired as HC.
Tollner studies Russell and the patterns he excels at to determine what type of passing ame suits him best.
Cable is biulding the offense around Russells abilities. That’s where Tollner is most helpful with his vast experince in how to get that done..
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:53 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:50 pm
What is the difference between Bird Flu and Swine Flu?
For bird flu you need tweetment.
for swine flu you need oinkment.
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You bring so much perspective and wisdom to this blog!
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:54 pm
On friday the Chargers released guard Sam Allen, cornerback Ramarcus Brown, wide receiver Jeremy Childs and linebacker Anthony Felder. All were rookie free agents.
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there goes their shot at the AFC West!
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
You bring so much perspective and wisdom to this blog!
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thanks KK! I expect you to hold down the fort, because I get off in 4 minutes …
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:59 pm
see ya tomorrow fellers
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Tollner spent 2007-’08 as an offensive assistant and quarterbacks coach in his second stint with the San Francisco 49ers.
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Not very impressive, BHP.
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:10 pm
OK, if you say so……… but what are you looking for?
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Charged Down: Oh my God, it’s Blink 182! You guys are like the coolest band ever, can you sign my face?
Tom: Kid, where’s your mom?
CD: You mean mommy? She’s at home making extra Pop Tarts for the pool man. But for some reason she can only do that when they’re both in the shower.
Travis: Dude, look at the size of that kid’s zits -
CD: You guys know I’m in this super cool band who only plays covers of your songs? Isn’t that awesome?
Mark: No, little dude, that’s actually totally weak. Why don’t you learn enough chords where you can write your own music? Only losers play other peoples songs.
CD: Yeah, but I’m also a Charger fan.
Travis: Enough said.
CD: I just peed in my pants being so close to you guys. And next I think I might have a wet dream in my pants. Just like I did the other day when mommy was wiping mustard off my pajamas.
Tom: Kid, we gotta show to do, so -
CD: But what about signing my face?
Mark: Sorry, we only have a little ink left in this pen and we have to save it for writing our next hit song on that roll of toilet paper in the bathroom.
CD: I’m going home to cry to my Philip Rivers doll!
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Priest
I’d like to see somewhere in his CV where’s he’s made a difference.
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
I guess he helped QB Shaun Hill?
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Whats the name of our offensive coordinator? what? we don’t have one? genius, zero accountability, just what we need! weeeee!
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Tom Cable’s job is always on the line.
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Krappy, you seem to be extra medicated today. I’m guessing you popped a few Benadryl into your post-nap Hot Pocket?
Anyway, with all of the ridiculous nonsense you’re posting on the blog I’m guessing you won’t come down until around 6 or 7 tonight. Hopefully by then you won’t have an enormous crap in your pants, but if you do go directly to the side of house and hose yourself down.
But if for some reason you wander off in a fog towards the Wendy’s drive thru, please try to keep your pants on. Don’t want to ruin any kid’s childhood, now do we?
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Of course the GM is not accountable, though.
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Beech, I got lot’s of Beech’s to look after me. If you’re worried about crapped pants, you should apply to be Al Davis’ man-assistant.
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Krappy, if you do have plenty of caregivers to look after your old man needs, then why do they :
1) Allow you to walk around all day in freshly crapped pajamas
2) Wander through the Arby’s drive thru half nude
3) Routinely overdose on Benadryl and post lame articles on a football blog all day long
We need answers, ol’ Krappy!
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Beech
You must have me confused with your daddy.
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:59 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:51 pm
“Al Davis is a work out warrior”
…..
That’s it. See you guys in another month or so. I just can’t deal with this anymore.
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Good grief, Krappy – how many pills did you take today? Do you not feel that huge dump in your overalls?
Anyway, there is no way I can help you unless you’re honest with all of us and, more importantly, honest with yourself.
Besides your failing bowels, you have many other old man issues that require constant medical attention. Falling asleep in your morning bowl of oatmeal is not considered “normal”, alright Krappy?
So let’s get you the help you deserve!
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Beech, You’re sooooooooo Lame.
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Beech
Did take care of your father’s bowell needs? You seem to be scarred by it. lol.
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Hey Mod
Have you noticed Beechams’s conversations. His only post’s crap. lol
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Krappy, you’re much too old to be telling on anyone.
I know you’re too senile to handle your own battles, but trying to get the mod to do them for you? Tsk, tsk, Krappy. Tsk, tsk.
Anyway, all I’m trying to do is help you here and get you into a good retirement home where all of your needs can be met.
We’ll all be happy – this blog will be Krappy-free and you’ll have clean underwear for most of the day.
Doesn’t that sound like fun, Krappy?
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Beech, you still my beech, no?
I gotta run for a minute, will return around 5pm, beech
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Krappy, you have the runs all day, that’s the point. Just promise you’ll clean yourself up when you’re done, ok? The hose out back should do the job.
Good grief.
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:53 pm
So, the story/rumor is that if Huff doesn’t show improvement in training camp, he may be cut? Let me save you some time, Al. He’s a BUST. Cut him yesterday!
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Bitcham, you must sure love you some KoolKell???
You spend quite a bit of time thinking about him don’t cha??
I understand… MANCRUSH… it is natural for you folks on that side (SF) of the Bay.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:12 pm
C. Johnson is a studd! Hell no he’s no mirage! 21 & 37, best QB tandum in the NFL baby!
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:15 pm
DirtyRaccoon Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Bitcham, you must sure love you some KoolKell???
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Beech is obsessed with me, and doesn’t care who knows either, lol
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:15 pm
CB?
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:16 pm
CB yes, CB! You know what I meant! Bummer, he’ll be too old to resign when his first real contract is up for renewal LOL…
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:17 pm
O, he is? I did not catch that.
Sorry, my mistake. So it is Kelly who has the MANCRUSH on you? Hmm, Well if you ever find that pasta eatin pig kin Oakglenn yall can have a threesome.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Mario Henderson & Chris Johnson, CO-RAIDER MVP 2008
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:19 pm
What about 81? 1k+ yards? Anyone but Zack Miller break 800 this year??????? If anyone it’ll be Shillens IMO.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:23 pm
KK,
i still got the last 2 games of the season on my DVR (yeah, I’m obsessed), and have watched ‘em both about 8 yimes a piece. 16-0 right? Why didnt we make the playoffs? JK
anyways, Henderson had moster games in both. there was a couple plays I was like “whoa, cant believe he stayed with that guy” and bam, just enough pocket time to get that 1st down. Be exciting to watch this year hopefully.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
If Shiliens gains 1,000 yds I’d be happy & surprised.
Dmac & Miller
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Dmac 1000 rushing? I hope we hand him the rock that many times, but I think we’re gonna see alot of M. Bush this season in tandum with him 1500 rushing yards combined IMO. If he breaks 1000 recieving…. Well, I just can’t see that with RB next to his number on the roster…
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Management waited too long to make their personnel moves.
Wasted the year on Kwame Harris, Ron Curry, DeAngelo Hall, Justin Fargas.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Dmac a 1,000 yds Passing.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Very much agreed! We forced Dmac to play hurt as well which gave us more games of half-a-mac, instead of fewer games with the entire #20. Thats all in the trainers though (hence “team MCfadden” to the rescue).
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:34 pm
I think Dmac & Miller will have so much production in the passing game, I don’t see a Raider WR as that productive with this group of options.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Recieving you mean? Has there ever been a RB over 1000 recieving yards besides Marshal Faulk? Faulk played EVERY down too. I just dont think its possible, but good wishfull thinking I guess….
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:39 pm
I dont know, Schilens looked like a beast out there the last 2 games. I think if he’s healthy, he’ll be our guy.
Not knockin what your saying about Miller and Dmac though, no doubt they both should have incredible seasons.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:44 pm
I think the ball is going to be spread around between Bush, Dmac, Miller, Shiliens, JLH. I think it’s going to be hard for Chaz to get 1,000. So many weapons. Plus they’ll probably be run-heavy.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Probably the most logical answer. I’d be nice to have a consistant 1000 yard anything at this point…
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:52 pm
quoth jerry Mc – “Russell need to identify himself this year as someone who can carry not just the passing game but the entire team.”
Granted that is an idea expounded by many here. Crap, even in NY Eli was given more time than that. The wisdom of impatience is not wisdom at all.
This year? This very season he has to go from an okay and learning QB to carrying the entire team? A suspect O-line protecting him and a suspect receiving corps due to inexperience and a suspect defensive line that has shown little excellence for a while. And JaMarcus Russell, by himself, is supposed to carry the team? This ain’t basketball, Lebron.
The impatience exhibited by Mr Blog and many here is definitely void of understanding the situation. Those who wish Mr Happyfeet to be the QB offer short-sightedness as a virtue. The franchise QB is going to take his lumps, have his miscues and fail altogether at times. It is called the learning process. Or, perhaps, some have the vein of “hoping he fails” to prove themselves right as certain ex-VPs and talk show blowhards wish upon someone else.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Agreed MLT, 2010-2011 is the season to start slapping a “bust” tag on him not this season. (And only if we kep the coaching staff in place).
going HOME! HURAH1
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:01 pm
I have no belief whatsoever that DMc can carry the load of a full NFL season. He seemed too fragile to me on draft day ‘08 and continued thru last year. I hope I am 100% incorrect.
1,000 yards rushing means nothing. 4 or 5 excellent games may = 700 yards. a dozen more for 30 yards /game and you get a grand.
DMc’s health is the only issue. As`a runner and receiver he can torch opposing Ds. Can he remain on the field?
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:02 pm
I think it’s fair to say that Jerry McDonald is very skeptical regarding Russell. I think a alot of the “Parroting” in here comes from him
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:07 pm
KoolKell,
sadly, your supposition of “parroting” is evident. that and listening to the blah blah blah of BSPN negativity and then taking it as gospel.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:21 pm
ChargedUp still cant stop thinking about that back-door pounding El-Dirty gave him
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:23 pm
El-Dirty is serving his time 4dat,cu,so leave El-Dirty alone punk
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:24 pm
I see Jerry took down his Wed June 17 Blog, where he doubted the QB’s words regarding his intent to work on his own with the Receivers.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:24 pm
KK,Im sure that this point has been made over and over,but, again,SNAKE sat on the bench for 5 years,w/ the clip board!I understand its a new era,all the money,salary cap,etc lets stay w/ our QB,HES IMPROVING,looking forward to a smashing season! Raiders!!!!!!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:26 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:50 pm
What is the difference between Bird Flu and Swine Flu?
For bird flu you need tweetment.
for swine flu you need oinkment
gotta love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Yeah, but Snake was before free Agency and 70 million dollar contracts. But I get your point. Al is used to bringing along rookies slowly.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:37 pm
4evaRaider Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:26 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:50 pm
What is the difference between Bird Flu and Swine Flu?
For bird flu you need tweetment.
for swine flu you need oinkment
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Yeah, that about sums up Raiderrockstar’s input on this Raider blog.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:41 pm
RaiderRockstar may be,shall we say,overzealous sometimes but he has contributed much,imo
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:45 pm
MLonetree,
Outstanding post earlier about Russell and the blog. A lot of folks don’t even know what it means to develop a QB. Because the Raiders have never developed a QB in over 30 years….Raider fans also don’t have a clue about the payoff of developing a franchise QB. They don’t realize that the main reason that teams like Pittsburgh, Giants, Eagles, Patriots, Packers with Favre, Cowboys with Aikman are so successfull is because they get/got great QB play for 5 to 10 years. They don’t realize that the more playoff runs you make the greater the chance of winning a Super Bowl. They don’t understand that why some teams only make a playoff run once a decade or worst because they constantly shift QBs every 3 or 4 years because some vet retires and his glory days are behind him. See the Minnesota Vikings.
Many Raiders fans just know retread vet after retread vet. That’s why they are clamoring for Jeff Garcia. Jeff fits. He fits like Rich Gannon or Jeff Hostetler…guys that might give you a year or 2…but then have to retire and the team start over. Watch what happens to the Cardinals after Warner retires at the end of 2009. Back to the cellar.
Stick with Russell and like Lonetree elegantly stated…let the guy develop and BUILD A TEAM for him to lead.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:47 pm
What a bunch of crap who cares what Sap thinks he just talks to hear himself. Raiders will contend for the division with a good running game and young talent. BOOK IT
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Jeff Hostetler took a beating every Sunday and was twice the QB of Jeff George and thats the truth.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:51 pm
they gonna win it ,imo Lynn
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:54 pm
g-nite NATION
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Is that a fact KK, Jerry deleted his own blog for the 17th?
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Anyone who watched the Tampa game and saw the two QB’s perform and still prefer Garcia over Russell, either doesn’t understand the game or is lying. Garcia missed wide open recievers was hesitant and his passes hung in the air for DB’s to feast on. We should’ve intercepted him at least 3 times.
Garcia is a has been who really never was. That’s what’s so pathetic about the media hating on Russell they’d rather have a washed up Garcia than Russell because of who drafted him.
Garcia lost his last 4 games on a playoff team. Even Farve doesn’t get that much credit.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Do you see any Blog from Jerry for Wed the 17th. that was the day of Media Accesibility and JR’s announcement, no?
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:19 pm
KK I can’t remember, it just surprised me that Jerry would do THAT. I thought even though I knew he didn’t think much of Russell, that’s stooping a little low.
Jerry never says anything positive about the Russell but as soon as something negative happens we get a new thread.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:29 pm
What did Jerry do now?
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Jerry should work for CNN!! lol
I’m playing Jerry, you are better than that.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Priest
I checked the Blogs, you can too. Just click back through Jerry’s entries. There’s one Tue & Thurs.
I remember the one announcing Russell’s plans, were met with skeptisim that they would actually happen.
Can anyone testify, can I get a witness? Holla!
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Which is worse, Fox news or CNN? I can’t tell anymore.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:35 pm
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/06/22/raiders-huff-could-be-cut-if-he-doesnt-win-starting-job/
Sounds like Huff will be hanging out with Vince Young in the near future.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:39 pm
KK,
The one from Wed the 17th is still there!! It’s was: DHB pulls up, Mitchell still hurting.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:44 pm
KK,
” OTA news and notes” was also from Wed the 17th.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:49 pm
245. Amen
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Raider O Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Which is worse, Fox news or CNN? I can’t tell anymore.
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There is no difference. 90% of american media is illegally owned by only six companies.
THE BIG SIX:
http://www.freepress.net/ownership/chart/main
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Thanks O, My bad. But, this from Jerry:
“I think it’s a big step. It’s kind of what we’ve been talking about all along, and to hear about that is obviously a positive from a coaches’ standpoint,” Cable said. “It will be good to hear how that goes and what his plan is.”
Sounds great, but we’ll probably never know which receivers show up, which ones are healthy enough to show up, and which ones are advised by their agents or the union to not show up.”
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Garcia is an insurance policy cuz Davis is dead serious about winning this year. The Raiders lease is up with Oakland in 2010 and they MUST be a winning,viable team by then.
Garcia has it over Russell in experience and another vital component, pocket awareness.
He can create on the move as well and given the state of Oaklands protection lo’ these post super bowl years, that could be a valuable commodity.
Hopefully with new blood, recent additions and the subtraction of a certain 49er, Oakland will be better at keeping who ever is under center upright in 09′.
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Hopefully with new blood, recent additions and the subtraction of a certain 49er,
You can say Kwame its alright.
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Nnamdi21,
Jeff Garcia is here to be a backup QB. In this league having a good backup is critical. New England Patriots proved that last year.
Al Davis wants to win but he is also realistic about where the team is at right now. That should be good news as it means more younger players should get time on the field.
This is JaMarcus’s team and he is going to surprise his many detractors this year with some pretty good play.
The thing that I liked about JaMarcus down the stretch is that he played within the offense and didn’t turn the ball over. As Cable opens up the playbook more and Russell with a full off-season of coaching and better receivers…Russell should be a top 15 passer this year.
It still amazes me that people get fired up about some OTA and yet are so dismissive about real live football games.
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Niners coach Mike Singletary recently claimed he almost made Crabtree cry when the rookie ran with a broken foot before the doctors cleared him.
LMFAO!
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Russell will only be a top 15 passer if he is allowed to throw the ball 30 times a game.
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:26 pm
JHill,
I see Russell getting 25 to 30 passes a game. They didn’t draft Murphy and DHB with Schilens, JLH, DMAC and Miller to toss the ball 15 or 20 times a gmae.
Cable, Tollner, Hackett and Lal will have had a full offseason with the offense. I also think with Bush and DMAC getting 4.5+ per carry will lessen the predictability of the offense.
Man, the Raiders have some young athletic players that are going to start from week 1. Young players that have played together.
When’s the last time that’s happened
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Top passer in Passer Rating.
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Russell finished the last 7 games with a 91 passer rating, and people act like he pissed in Al Davis’ soup.
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Nnamdi21 what you call pocket awareness, drove Gruden nuts! Garcia’s happy feet cost them plenty in timing and accuracy. Guy’s would get open and he would be dancing around with the ball in his hands.
There was a time when he was very good at that, he no longer is. He is a check down passer with happy feet and very little down field accuracy.
IMO it’s his confidence that he can get the ball there before the defender makes up the difference and picks it off.
Again if you watch the Tampa game and just study him, also for added emphasis listen to Gannon criticize him constantly.
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:14 pm
In fact the last play of that game says it all. He took a sack holding on to the ball way too long dancing in the backfield. He doesn’t even run like he used to.
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:19 pm
The first time I saw Russell play for Oakland, my first impression was how good his pocket presence is. Especially after watching Andrew Walter’s complete non-awareness.
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:54 pm
KK, you’re a man after my own heart. Post #268 was one of the first things I saw when I studied the kid. When he finally figures out what defenses are doing to try to stop the offense. He will victimize them with athleticism and arm strength very similar to what Elway used to do only much more from the pocket. When DC’s gameplanned Elway they tried to keep him in the pocket which was his weakness. Not the case with Russell he can see the entire field.
The pro game will eventually slow down for him and then the natural ability will take over. He scrambled out of the pocket plenty last year but his gimpy ankle wouldn’t allow the aggressive running I saw in college. When he ran often sometimes as many as 6 times in a game. If he can stay healthy and get the technique down in his drops 3 step 5 step and 7 step. He is going to be very scary as a QB.
This session with the receiving corp should help with the timing and familiarity. Then training camp will allow them to see what works and what doesn’t.
In all honesty I doubt that Raider fans really understand what they have in Russell. All they ever talk about is his gut and the other ignorant peripheral stuff. The Raiders under all the crap have one of the scariest talents at QB in the history of this league. If he develops we will be dominant for many years because of Russell.
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Nnamdi,
Hank you for the link bro. GE is killing them at 180+ bil, and the smallest of the group stands at 14 Bil. Amazing!!
All that money, and they can get it right. Or maybe they do!!!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Nnamdi,
*thank you.
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:57 pm
[...] Read more. [...]
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:38 pm
If Huff doesn’t play better, he will be cut to keep Jerome Boyd. IMHO
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Boyd has been playing well according to Cable, and Huff makes too much money to sit on the bench and be a backup.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:54 pm
All Boyd has to do is play better than K Davis, and he will make the roster.
June 23rd, 2009 at 4:14 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
This IS funny!!!
jhill Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Niners coach Mike Singletary recently claimed he almost made Crabtree cry when the rookie ran with a broken foot before the doctors cleared him.
LMFAO!
June 23rd, 2009 at 4:20 am
420
June 23rd, 2009 at 4:26 am
It’s gonna be FUN 2B able 2 compare DHB and Crabtree throughout thier career’s,imo.Ahhhh the ‘ole story within a story thing!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 4:28 am
Please cut huff now I can’t take another game of mr. always a step late the next time he jacks somebody up will be his first time for us what a waste.
June 23rd, 2009 at 4:44 am
Maybe in a new scheme Huff might do ok.I would rather have Branch and da Missle start but Huff could take a pay-cut and add depth,maybe
June 23rd, 2009 at 4:45 am
Hell,I’m even willing to say it was all robbo ryan and give everyone a pass on D.Thats what it looks like is happening anyway,imo
June 23rd, 2009 at 4:52 am
GM all!
June 23rd, 2009 at 5:29 am
Morning Bo =)
June 23rd, 2009 at 5:38 am
zzzzzzzzzzzzz
June 23rd, 2009 at 5:43 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
I think everyone gets a pass until we see what Marshall can do with this D…
June 23rd, 2009 at 5:47 am
Morning All,
From PFT:”Drew Rosenhaus announced Monday that he has signed Oakland Raiders left tackle Mario Henderson as a new client.”
This means problems if Henderson is the starter. Drew’s clients and Drew himself are problems. Only Raider with him as agent.
June 23rd, 2009 at 5:49 am
Oh no…so if Super Mario has a Super year…then contract negotiations are due? i miss the old days of the NFL…where players played the game!
June 23rd, 2009 at 5:49 am
I love when ever I read Rob Ryan comments, never seen a guy try to milk a SB ring as the LB coach as much as he does I can’t wait to watch Marshall and hope he dosen’t coodle the players like RR did.
June 23rd, 2009 at 5:53 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FANS,HWNDR,4EVA,EXLA..WHERE IS DONALD HOLLIS THESE DAY’S,NEED ONE MORE THIRD-STRING Q.B ON THE ROSTER 4 CAMP…
June 23rd, 2009 at 5:56 am
Donald Hollis…LOL
Thanks Dirt Lot, I almost spit my coffee out…haha
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:01 am
I can’t stand Drew Rosenhaus. Destroyer of teams. Most of his clients are self centered SOB’s. Prime example was T.O. Mario hasn’t even locked up the position and he is trying to set himself up for a mega deal for a L.T.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:03 am
Rosenhaus represents over 100 NFL players, Tommie Harris, Plaxico Burress, Chad Ocho Cinco (Johnson), Willis McGahee, Santana Moss, Terrell Owens, Kellen Winslow Jr, Jeremy Shockey, Zach Thomas, Frank Gore, Lance Briggs and others.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:04 am
You need at least 4 safeties on the roster, and Eugene, Mitchell and Branch are all safe, so Huff is competing for that potentially last spot with Davis and a few others I can’t name right now becuase it is 6am. I thought Huff played great on ST at the end of last year, but that’s Keith Davis’ MO as well, so Huff better step it up. One injury to one of the top 3 and Huff, gasp, might be starting again week 1.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:04 am
I know…that’ what got me scratching my head on that one…times are hard, I know, but I’ll take HIS current salary now for 16 weeks. That would still be more than I make in a year!
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:04 am
forgot to give wiki credit for the cut and paste.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:05 am
I don’t think Drew wants to get into a chess match with Al Davis, Al is about vendetta’s and proving points these days (unfortunately) so I doubt Drew would win that match of wills.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:06 am
FREE DON HOLLIS!!!!
LMAO @ SUPER mario……Rosenbum is a joke amd I can’t wait for him to try to smartass talk Uncle Al….
Drew: Hello, mr. Davis I’m hear seeking a new contract for my client.
Al: I don’t resisn Jerry jones’s guys for him!
Drew: No It’s your guy Mario Henderson.
Al: Who!?!?!
Drew: you know your STARTING (in smart azz tone) LT your anchor to your O-line!
Al: Ohhh.. him hes cut get out of my office!!!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!
ohhh….morning NATION!!!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:14 am
THE DONALD HOLLIS & RUSTY HILGER Q.B. CAMP 4 KID’S—NO REFUND’S
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:18 am
well, well
aloha a.m. crew
one can suppose that Super Mario believes he will up his game to Jonathan Odgen type play. that is all fine. the funny money he and his new despicable carnival barker/agent may wish IS dependant upon Super Mario actually playing like an elite LT. guess we’ll see how it all lays out.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:21 am
I hope that Super mario does because took him, what, almost all season to finally beat out Turnstile Harris…wait, that was Cable…oops!
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:22 am
yep a win-win 4 us
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:24 am
ST. LOUIS — La’Roi Glover, a six-time Pro Bowl selection at defensive tackle who once led the NFL in sacks, announced his retirement Monday after 13 seasons.
Glover, who turns 35 on July 4, spent the past three seasons with St. Louis. He was not re-signed following the 2008 season, when he had 30 tackles and one-half sack. A Rams spokesman said the team had no comment.
“I’m blessed that I was able to play this game that I love for so long. It has been such an incredible journey,” Glover said in a prepared statement.
Glover was selected by Oakland in the fifth round of the 1996 draft out of San Diego State. Considered undersized at 290 pounds, he played in just two games as a rookie, with two tackles and no sacks.
His career took off a year later in New Orleans, where he had 50 sacks over five seasons, including an NFL-best 17 in 2000 — a rare feat for a tackle. From 1998-2000, only two players had more sacks than Glover’s 35.5 — Kevin Carter (39.5) and Warren Sapp (36).
Glover had 21.5 sacks in four seasons in Dallas and 12 in three seasons in St. Louis. He signed with the Rams as a free agent before the 2006 season.
Glover had 627 tackles and 83.5 sacks for his career. He was also known for his durability. After playing 15 games in 1997, Glover played in all 16 games in each of the past 11 seasons.
He has also earned off-the-field honors. He established the La’Roi Glover Foundation in 1999, providing scholarships to San Diego-area students and assisting children’s charities. He was the Rams’ 2007 Walter Payton Man of the Year award winner.
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S&B: does this make you angry? we could have had an anchor on the D-Line for 10-12 years, but we gave up on him too soon. Al Davis even drafted the man!
no wonder Joe Bugel got fired after only 1 season!
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:24 am
wait, that was Cable…oops!
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I knew he was the best o-line man we had!!! how manuy games did he strap it up??? Wait he was the the one leadin the way for bush and co. against T.B. wasnt he??
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:24 am
WELL SAID M LONETREE -299, WE CAN ONLY HOPE THIS BECOMES AN ISSUE, MARIO PLAY’S AT AN ALL-PRO LEVEL, AND THE FRONT OFFICE HAS TO DEAL WITH MR ROSENHAUS.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:24 am
I LLLooovvvveee it!!1
Don’t hold your breath B-Marsh and Kennard Mac. The Denver Broncos have you by your Rocky Mountain oysters.
Wide receiver Brandon Marshall and his agent, Kennard McGuire, are trying to make a deal, but all they are doing is making noise. Owner Pat Bowlen is flying way below the salary cap and has no intention, or the money, to get anywhere near the 2009 cap, which will be around $126 million.
Under the cap
They’ll go to battle this season at around $14 million under the cap, and that’s because your Denver Broncos are cash poor and have been for several years. Bowlen is gagging on the $20 million he still has to pay former head coach Mike Shanahan and a bunch of his departed his departed staff, never mind the Goodman’s.
It’s getting expensive playing an NFL owner on TV, isn’t it Pat?
That’s all Bowlen can do is play like he’s a big-time owner. Those days are over. Bowlen has made so many mistakes, he can’t begin to count them, and he is being overcome by the problems this franchise is facing. He’s kind of just holding on and hoping all his problems will all go away and the economy turns around.
Sorry, fur coat man, your problems have just begun. The top free agents in the league used to flock here in the offseason, but now all they are getting is glorified backups from a real team, or older players who may be loosing a step if they haven’t already.
Marshall wants a raise
In the midst of all of this, Marshall wants more money, and the Broncos are holding all of his cards. Marshall cannot risk losing too much time in camp, as he’s under contract. Next season’s collective bargaining agreement is now a non-cap year. Four-year players who were going to be unrestricted free agents will have to wait until their sixth year to become a free agent. Doesn’t sound fair, but it’s the corner Marshall and McGuire are trying to paint their way out of.
At that point the Broncos will just put the franchise tag on Marshall for the next two seasons. The Broncos understand their position perfectly and are not about to renegotiate themselves into more bad money out the door.
The franchise tag is still a boatload of money for Marshall — it’s the average salary of the top five receivers in the league. But it’s not the lottery, which is what he wants.
The Broncos haven’t won throwing money at the problem. Now they’re hoping a new system and a little coaching can get the job done. If the Josh McDaniels experiment doesn’t work, the Broncos will be going into a bottom-of-the-league mode for the foreseeable future.
This could get ugly. Cross your orange and blue fingers.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:26 am
Yup, both times that Bush had good games (I think the first one was in KC)…hmmm…
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:27 am
LaRoi Glover Announces Retirement
RIP Ed McMahon.
Hey Ho!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:28 am
Rosenhaus isn’t a heavy-hitter like a Scott Boras or others, he is just a media-whore. Wasn’t he supposed to get Ochocinco traded and a new contract or TO getting a big pay-day? Last I looked neither of those really happened. With that being said if Henderson is a starting LT, and a good one, he is going to want starting LT money, which is one of the highest paying positions due to so many top 5 picks at the position.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:29 am
yes Raider fans, last season began with Turnstile and Mop Handle as bookends anchoring the O-line. now things are definitely looking up as we only have 1/2 of that tandem ready to roll. addition by subtraction means that the glass is definitely half something. you decide.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:30 am
SEAN JONES ABOUT 20 YRS AGO, SAME STORY, DRAFTED, LET GO TO SOON,BLOSSEMD ELSWHERE..
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:30 am
RaiderRockstar may be,shall we say,overzealous sometimes but he has contributed much,imo
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thanks 4eva.
overzealous – marked by excessive enthusiasm for and intense devotion to a cause or idea
in other words… drinking the Kool-Aid!
yeah baby! Playoffs 2009.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:32 am
good morning Dirt Lot, Hwnrdr, OAKlifer, 4eva …
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:32 am
AHHH the old days….
From Wiki:
Donald Wayne Hollas (born November 22, 1967 in Kingsville, Texas) is a former professional American football quarterback in the NFL. He was selected in the 4th round of the 1991 NFL Draft by the Cincinnati Bengals. He played 20 games between 1991-1994 for the Bengals. He was out of the league between 1995-1997, until the Oakland Raiders brought him back in 1998. He retired after the season.
Hollas played in the Arena Football League with the Texas Terror before signing with the Raiders in 1997.[1] Going into the 1998 season with Oakland, Hollas had only attempted two passes in the NFL since 1992, however after an injury to starter Jeff George, Hollas saw significant action with the Raiders that season. Oakland was on a two game winning streak when Hollas took over the 3-2 Raiders starting job, after having helped them to a 23-20 victory over Arizona the week before with a touchdown run after taking over for the injured George. Then he promptly led them to three more victories in a row for a five game winning streak and a 6-2 record at the halfway point under first-year head coach Jon Gruden. As the second half of the season commenced, Hollas began to struggle and the Raiders lost four out their next five games to drop to a 7-6 record. Hollas’s erractic play was a large factor in his team’s poor play. He threw 14 interception during that five-game stretch with three of the pickoffs being returned for touchdowns. His worst game was his last as a starter as he threw six interceptions against the Dolphins in a 27-17 loss.[2]
Hollas was benched the next game in favor of longtime veteran Wade Wilson, and only played sparingly the rest of the season behind Wilson and Jeff George. The Raiders finished that season at 8-8.[3] Hollas retired after the season.
Hollas coached with the Houston Marshals of the Spring Football League in 2000 and Junior Varsity baseball at his alma mater – Lamar Consolidated High School in Richmond, Texas in 2006.
Hollas is currently the head football coach at St. Thomas High School in Houston, Texas. He was hired for that position in May 2008, the same week that Craig Biggio was hired as the school’s baseball manager.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:32 am
Hey Oaklifer, I remember reading that you saw Mistah Fab the other week, and I wouldn’t be doing my boys any justice if I didn’t tell you to check them out. Their name is Dubbsack Music, google it and you can find their myspace page and other links. They have opened for Mistah a few times, out of Tracy (I know insert joke here) but VERY lyrical.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:33 am
good morning Vegas, M, TW, exla …
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:34 am
good morning NMF, BSJ …
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:34 am
I was at the Donald Hallas six pick game against Miami. I’m pretty sure one was a failed screen pass that a Dolphin intercepted literally in the end zone for the easiest defensive TD ever.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:34 am
Rockstar,
thanks for the Donkeyland post. gotta luv it.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:35 am
GOOD DAY ROCKSTAR..
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:36 am
Went with a Fin fan, so since he didn’t say anything during the game, I had to listen to him once we got in the car for a two hour ride back to Chico. Got my revenge in the playoffs a few years later.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:38 am
thanks for the Donkeyland post. gotta luv it.
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TW posted that one, but thanks anyway
It was a good read!
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:39 am
[...] Jerry McDonald of the Contra Costa Times wonders when the Raiders will move Khalif Barnes to right tackle. [...]
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:40 am
I’m with ya Rockstar!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:42 am
Morning RaiderRockstar, your insight is valued as always.
RIP Ed McMahon. Johnny has been waiting on you.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:42 am
Drew Roseycheeks doesn’t mean jack squat.
a player is only going to be paid what they are worth, regardless of the agent. If Mario Henderson has a pro bowl type season and starts 16 games at LT then he might demand a pay raise (like Jason Peters). If he holds out and Davis doesn’t pay him $10 million per season Rosey will probably get fired and AD will deal with an agent who isn’t full of himself, in other words “full of poopy”
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:43 am
After signing with Drew, Mario is going to the right side and Barnes to LT. LOL
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:45 am
one Sunday in ‘98 I was drinking beer in a dry county in Arkansas watching a grainy rabbit-ear telecast of a Raider-Donkey game.
Late 4th quarter, close game, Raiders need to drive the field to take the lead. Camera zooms in to the Silver and Black huddle to find Donald Hollas on one knee, eyes closed, hands folded in prayer. I thought,”WTF?!?, That isn’t field generalship and definitely is not going to inspire the troops around him.” Drive failed miserably, game lost, but the image remains.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:46 am
My error
Thanks TW for the post.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:48 am
Who do you consider the Chiefs’ biggest rivals?
In years past, the answer would be without a doubt the Oakland Raiders. Historically, they probably still are our biggest rivals but in the last 15 years, the Denver Broncos have arisen as our biggest rivals.
The Raiders have had the worst six year stretch in NFL history and don’t really provide much competition (though they did beat us last season…that’s what a 2-14 record will get you!).
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You bet your asses KC! 2 wins & your sportswriters are busting OUR balls? Get ready for 2 loses from us in 2009!!!!!
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The Broncos have been playoff contenders nearly every season for quite some time. Though, if I had to guess, that will end with the ‘new’ Broncos and head coach Josh McDaniels.
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Good guess snapperhead!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:48 am
yep Exla the tables have turned.It will be Johnny standing with St.Pete saying;Heeeerrrrrreeeee’s Eddy
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:50 am
Dubbsack Music,
thanks bro always on the look out for up and coming talent!!!! I will def check it out!! I don’t joke bout anybodys hood Tracy is all love from here!!! Bayliens, Benzo, and a few others I’m chill wit all them cats!!!!
M,
The glass be overfloweth with emptiness……..
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:50 am
Hahaha!!! I was reading on the death of ed McMahon (RIP) and found an article that Gloria Estefan is going to part owner of the Dolphins…wow! Anyone got the money to buy out Al Davis? maybe the Luniz (’cause I’m a Raider, an Oakland Raider), or Digital Underground?
Ok, just kidding guys…go to comcast.net for the story. I cannot post links from work…
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:50 am
Let’s see, 3rd rd pick in 2007. What leverage does he have? 4 yr deal makes him restricted in 2013 withou a labor agreement. 3 yr deal makes him restricted in 2012. Mario is in a canoe without a paddle going upstream.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:51 am
You need at least 4 safeties on the roster, and Eugene, Mitchell and Branch are all safe, so Huff is competing for that potentially last spot with Davis and a few others I can’t name right now becuase it is 6am.
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Vegas: I wouldn’t consider Keith Davis, Jerome Boyd or Darrick Brown “top notch competition”
here’s the thing, unless we’re going to stay with the famous Rob Ryan interchangable safeties plan, we’ll have a FS that plays centerfield and helps in coverage. Then we’ll have a SS that covers the TE or plays down in the box. Also will be used in safety blitz packages.
here are the guys who can play FS: Huff, Branch, Eugene, Brown
here are the guys who can play SS: Mitchell, Branch, Davis, Boyd
so really Huff is competeing with Eugene and Brown if Tyvon Branch is considered a lock. However, Branch was a backup SS last year and has been a starting SS thus far in camp and OTA’s … If they don’t give him a shot at FS then Huff’s chances of cracking the 53 man roster are much better imo
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:52 am
Morning Double R,
Hows things in your world brother?
You think Ellis will be Starting LE for us this year?? With Burgess playing situational pass rush?
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:55 am
maybe the Luniz (’cause I’m a Raider, an Oakland Raider), or Digital Underground?
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Maybe just Yukmouth him self!!!!!!!!
“Winner Winner Chicken Dinner”~Yukneezy
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:55 am
Said Seahawks coach Jim Mora, “We think that all three running backs fit our style of offense. They’re all different, yet they all fit the style we want to run. I’m not going to say that there’s a marquee name in our backfield that the whole nation knows, because there’s not. But hopefully at the end of the year there is a marquee name, and it’s one of the three guys we’ve got on our roster right now.”
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LOL. Knapp will pick the RB most like Fargas.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:56 am
You think Ellis will be Starting LE for us this year?? With Burgess playing situational pass rush?
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Yes. I also think Trevor Scott will start at RDE and Jay Richardson will either be cut when healthy or be given an injury settlement if he can’t get healthy in time for training camp
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:57 am
Oaklifer,
The Void is not necessarily empty. As for some, Shunyata is the highest state.
and emptiness…”nothing is everything” spake Gautama.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:59 am
in the Seaturds offense …
Julius Jones = Darren McFadden
TJ Duckett = Michael Bush
Justin Forsett = Justin Fargas
at least Jim Mora Jr. will play the most talented backs! I haven’t heard of a scholarship program in Seachicken town …
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:59 am
Talk to everyone tomorrow. Got to get some work done.
Go Raiders!
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:00 am
M: that was deep …
therefore I have no idea what you’re talking about.
haha
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:00 am
see ya Exla!
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:02 am
BoSJack,
it reads as if Mora doesn’t even know the names of his RBs. lol. and it definitely reads as if he doesn’t want to know their names as he’s hoping for somebody better to walk in the door.
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:05 am
Rockstar,
I didn’t even bring up “dark matter”, that unseen and postulated enormous mass which makes up the majority of the universe around us.
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:08 am
M: it’s too early in the morning to have my head spin
I got a meeting starting in less than 20 minutes.
Maybe i’ll copy & paste and give everyone a philosophy lesson?
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:11 am
Philosophize with him.
“All we are is Dust in the Wind, dude.”
Alright, bad Bill and Ted’s reference…
Shunyata…love that M
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:11 am
M,
can you score us some of the dark matter??????
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:14 am
I actually think that Mario Henderson signing with Rosenhaus is a good thing, he’s going to be on his ear a lot, telling him how good he is and now it’s his chance to make millions as a “franchise” Left Tackle, it should only increase Mario´s motivation.
And Davis likes Mario, he´ll have no problem paying up if the guy proves him right.
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:16 am
Oaklifer,
all is right with the NFL world when our very own “dark matter”, The Oakland Raiders, pummels the rest of the pipsqueak reality into submission.
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:16 am
That is a good point Bob! Let’s hope so that Mario pulls his end…
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:19 am
Marley Esq.,
long time no read. life faring well by you?
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:19 am
if anyone is so inclined
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_oDdGmKyA&feature
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:22 am
“Dark matter” would be a good nickname for a dominant Raider defense. I hope the universe still exists when we get one.
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:24 am
heheheheheheheheheheheahhhhhehehehehehehehehe
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:26 am
hwnrdr Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:16 am
That is a good point Bob! Let’s hope so that Mario pulls his end…
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nobody’s paying Mario to “pull it”…
we got enough of that already…
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:27 am
Hey M
All is good, too much work and not nearly enough time.
Hope things are good for all the regulars, you guys know who I mean, take care fellas.
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:28 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:22 am
“Dark matter” would be a good nickname for a dominant Raider defense. I hope the universe still exists when we get one.
I guess those would be good shirts that the guys walking around the parking lot could sell when that day comes!
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:30 am
Later Marley Esq., good to hear
Bo S Jack,
yes, the race is on. dominant Raider defense or cosmic annihilation, which will come first? tick tock.
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:31 am
Will Mario, CJ and JLH all continue to improve or at least play as well as they did last season, or will they come back to earth? I have a feeling that CJ might get exposed this coming season, but I think Mario and JLH will continue to improve.
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:32 am
RaiderRockstar,
Too bad the Raiders couldn’t keep Glover and Grady Jackson on the roster. Instead the Raiders have gone the vet free agent route with limited success. Many of the undrafted rookies and late round picks haven’t done much either.
I really hope the DTs, DEs and LBs are ready this year. The Raider schedule has mostly run 1st teams with big offensive lines and running backs. And make no mistake, they are very aware of where the weakness lies with this defense.
Coming up next on your CBS station….Brandon Jacobs, Marion Barber, Clinton Portis, Larry Johnson, Thomas Jones, LT and Sproles and making his 1st appearance….Knowshon Moreno!
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:35 am
SnB,
Yep, if we would have kept Glover, Jackson and Rod Coleman we would not have been 5-127 or whatever we have been over the past 6 years.
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:36 am
Otis Sistrunk would have been the obvious choice to lead the Dark Matter Defense, hailing as he did from U. of Mars. Of course, no one really knew what dark matter was back then.
I can hear Papa, “two Raiders slammed Tomlinson to the ground, and in a flash of light his molecular bonds were broken and he disappeared from the planet. GOOOO RRRAIDERS!!! Fumble recovered by Howard…”
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:36 am
I’d like 2C the Missle blast Jacobs into retirement
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:37 am
close enough Dakota
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:38 am
Good day to you all Nation!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:42 am
4evaRaider Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:36 am
I’d like 2C the Missle blast Jacobs into retirement
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Well, hopefully the front 7 slow down Jacobs enough so that the Missle will be able blast multiple times in the game. Because if Jacobs is coming at full speed….
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:44 am
BoSJack,
post 363 is a classic and hilarious.
remember folks, Jerry Mc started this with the heading of this particular thread – What We Don’t Know, so all speculation as to the unseen forces of the cosmos and how it relates to the dismantling of an opposing running back is well within the bounds of commentary.
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:44 am
Sorry, this is my one “agenda” post of the day.
The Raiders would have really helped themselves drafting Raji, Brace or Gilbert. I am sorry to relive the draft. I think DHB could be a player…but so can Schilens, who is just as fast…
An upgrade on the D-Line with Mitchell or an SLB would have made me feel a lot better about this. Because the offense would have still been in good shape with Louis Murphy in the 4th. In my opinion, I think Murphy is going to have a bigger impact than DHB
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:45 am
and da Missle is comming at full speed…man this is gonna be a great year 4 our D!!!
Marshall will coddle no-one you can do it in his scheme or you cant and if you cant…C-YAAAAAAAA
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:46 am
Not sure if anyone saw this link but a little short Q & A with Nmamdi:
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/article/2009-06-21/qa-raiders-cb-nnamdi-asomugha-0
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:53 am
Vegas,
Thanks for the link. How’s the work hiatus?
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:54 am
4evaRaider Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:45 am
and da Missle is comming at full speed…man this is gonna be a great year 4 our D!!!
Marshall will coddle no-one you can do it in his scheme or you cant and if you cant…C-YAAAAAAAA
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The scheme is relatively unchanged. Its better teaching of fundamentals. So if the players can’t grasp the fundamentals…then I guess its C-YA…of course this isn’t a defense that is deep in talent
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:58 am
M,
Still “on the clock” for 8 more days, but already looking elsewhere. Thinking of leaving the securities industry altogether, still young so got plenty of time to go back if need be. Get to play Mr. Mom today, run some errands, grab some things at Trader Joe’s, take my wife’s car in to get her brakes done, you know real exciting sutff, LOL.
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:01 am
I dunno SnB and I read what Coach C said but…I just cant believe Marshall would use ANY defence used by Ryan.I think Cable threw some “pie” of his own,imo
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:03 am
its a dark matter from a Dark Organization,imo
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:07 am
4evaRaider Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:01 am
I dunno SnB and I read what Coach C said but…I just cant believe Marshall would use ANY defence used by Ryan.I think Cable threw some “pie” of his own,imo
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No one outside of the Raiders really knows what’s going to happen on defense. All I hope is that they get more creative using the linebackers…specifically, Thomas Howard. He should be a weapon and not a role player. I hope they give different personnel and formation looks.
I hope that one of our many, many speedy DEs can get double digit sacks this year.
The pass defense should be pretty good provided there is decent pressure on the QB.
I am still not convinced that the run defense will be measurably better from last year.
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:09 am
SnB, you think Murphy will have a bigger impact than DHB ?
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:11 am
When Cable says the “scheme” will be the same he’s talking about 4-3 man 2 man scheme. Duh, did anybody think we were going to a 3-4 ?
Marshall can do many things with that 4-3 Ryan didn’t do.
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:11 am
I totally agree about Thomas Frikkin Howard!!! He is da man and will be awesome going into his 4th year.Da man has cat like reflexes,imo
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:12 am
Mistabrown Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:09 am
SnB, you think Murphy will have a bigger impact than DHB ?
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Yes, I think Murphy has been more active in his games and caught more passes. I think the transition for him is going to be less. Murphy really should have been a 2nd round pick…the Raiders were fortunate to get him.
I think that JLH and Schilens will start on the outside…Murphy is going to work the middle and is a better route runner than DHB. DHB will be a contributor…just not right away
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:16 am
I agree with Mistabrown…over the years many d-coordinators have had success within the confines of the Al Davis defense. Ryan simply could not adjust to those restrictions, so he fell on his face. Hopefully Marshall can do much better.
I will be very interested to see if Ryan, when allowed to run his own defense, will have success in Cleveland. He was never given the time or players to install his 3-4 defense in Oakland. I hated him for not being able to teach our guys the fundamentals, but I am rooting for him to succeed in Cleveland so that Davis might take notice and learn from his mistake with Ryan.
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:17 am
Our offence is just like a 600 horse-power engine.When it starts runnung on all cylinders LOOK-OUT!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:22 am
lol @ Al Davis learning from his mistakes!
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:25 am
Dakota,
That was a big part of the problem. Davis hired Ryan after the Ravens blocked him from interviewing his brother.
Davis wanted the attitude and personality. It makes no sense to hire a 3-4 pressure coach to run a 4-3 pass protection defense. The Raiders brought in Warren Sapp when Sapp was not a 3-4 NT type. Made no sense. Then they switched back to the 4-3 after one season and underinvested in the D-Line.
My beef with Rob Ryan was the playcalling in the 4th QTR and on 3rd down. I think he and his assistants taught all the fundamentals like tackling and such…the guy was a bad playcaller…but my instinct tells me he wasn’t running romper room over there during practice. Plus, I am sure the head coaches would have noticed if Ryan was “ignoring” fundamentals.
All I am saying is the personnel is the same and I don’t think there are a lot of players on that defensive side that an unbiased observer would say…”wow, that guy is just a can’t miss player” with the exception of Nnamdi, Howard and maybe C.J if he can keep it up.
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:25 am
thats because he never made any =)
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:30 am
SnB, I dont know how you can assume all that without seeing those guys play even a pre-season game yet. Throwing all your eggs in the college game basket I guess..
You have a 50/50 chance of being right I suppose!
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:31 am
Jerry make a new thread or I will start talking about our imbecile pres Barback Hussein 0bama.
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:37 am
Mistabrown Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:22 am
lol @ Al Davis learning from his mistakes!
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The mistakes learn from Al Davis.
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:49 am
what is it break-time???
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:03 am
if we would have kept Glover, Jackson and Rod Coleman we would not have been 5-127 or whatever we have been over the past 6 years.
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Dakota & SnB:
Rod Coleman & Eric Barton both opted out of their contracts after Callahan called that 2003 Raiders team the “dumbest team in America” and got fired shortly following the season. Coleman & Barton opted out of their contracts, they were not cut or unsigned FA’s. They chose to leave. Grove opted out of his contract too this offseason, because he reached playing time incentives. These players were looking for a big payday. They didn’t care about playing for the Oakland Raiders.
Norv Turner & Rob Ryan entered the picture in 2004 and brought in a 3-4 defense. Ted Washington & Warren Sapp were the DT’s under the Turner regime and we still got trambled vs the run. Somehow everybody blamed Derrick Gibson & Stuart Schweigert for the poorous run D instead of Rob Ryan – I don’t understand it!
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:06 am
by the way:
good morning S&B, Mr Brown, Dakota …
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:14 am
RR,
Somehow everybody blamed Derrick Gibson & Stuart Schweigert for the poorous run D instead of Rob Ryan
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D Gibson & Stuart should have been blamed no matter what, Gib NEVER has been in position to make a tackle, Stu? Nuff said.lol WE ALL BLAMED RYAN, hell, I blame him when I get the runs!!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:18 am
thats Mistabrown 2 us
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:19 am
Gibson was actually adequate against the run, but covered the pass like crapola. More of a smallish LB with stiff hips and weak vision.
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:20 am
after the 2003 season -
Lincoln Kennedy, Bill Romanowski & Rod Woodson retired
Garner opted out.
Tim Brown, Barrett Robbins & Mo Collins were not retained
Gannon was injured 3 games into the 2004 season.
Rice was traded 4 games into the 2004 season.
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what a disaster! look at all the veteran leadership we lost at the same time. the locker room was probably a total joke …
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:23 am
RaiderTW Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:14 am
RR,
Somehow everybody blamed Derrick Gibson & Stuart Schweigert for the poorous run D instead of Rob Ryan
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D Gibson & Stuart should have been blamed no matter what, Gib NEVER has been in position to make a tackle, Stu? Nuff said.lol WE ALL BLAMED RYAN, hell, I blame him when I get the runs!!!!
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you should blame him for not stopping those runs…
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:27 am
D Gibson & Stuart should have been blamed no matter what, Gib NEVER has been in position to make a tackle, Stu? Nuff said.lol
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true enough. However, just like Michael Huff, I think Stuart Schweigert was ruined by Rob Ryan’s defense. Stu in the box? why? He broke Rod Woodson’s INT record at Purdue! He should have been making plays on the ball. He was a FS that wasn’t very good as a Raider, but who knows what he might have become if drafted by a team that didn’t use interchangable safeties to confuse themselves, rather than the defense. I agree with BSJ in that Gibson was a hitter, but got beat often in coverage. Compare him to Roy Williams in Dallas. If Dallas would have had a record like Oakland and Roy wasn’t famous for that “horse collar tackle” he wouldn’t be considered such a high profile player. Surely not a pro bowler!
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:29 am
I’m gonna start calling Terdell Sands “the hydrator” in John Marshall’s defense, because he stops the runs!
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:34 am
[...] Jerry McDonald of the Contra Costa Times wonders when the Raiders will move Khalif Barnes to right tackle. [...]
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:37 am
Interested in your opinions. Why would Al Davis keep Rob Ryan around so long when he has replaced the head coach numerous times? In fact, Ryan was never fired.
Also, did anyone notice that Ryan promptly found another DC Coordinator job. With all that is at stake in the NFL for head coaches….why would a coach reach out to a guy with the track record of Rob Ryan? Also, same can be said for Martindale. He is now the LB coach in Denver.
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:37 am
I’m gonna start calling Terdell Sands “the hydrator” in John Marshall’s defense, because he stops the runs!
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the #1 way to stop or prevent diarrhea is to avoid dehydration
sorry if you guys didn’t get the joke!
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:45 am
Heck,
For all we know Rob Ryan could have been the one to walk away!
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:46 am
How about Turdell Bismol?
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:48 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:37 am
I’m gonna start calling Terdell Sands “the hydrator” in John Marshall’s defense, because he stops the runs!
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the #1 way to stop or prevent diarrhea is to avoid dehydration
sorry if you guys didn’t get the joke!
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i got the joke…
it was the image of turdell running around offering enemas that put me off…
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:57 am
Vegas Raider Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:05 am
I don’t think Drew wants to get into a chess match with Al Davis, Al is about vendetta’s and proving points these days (unfortunately) so I doubt Drew would win that match of wills.
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Absolutely Vegas. But we’ll lose Mario, if he’s any good.
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:04 am
Good morning Nation.
Many of you think that our DTs are fine, and the problem was with DEs. I don’t think so, I think the entire Dline is to blame, but mainly the DTs. IMHO DEs couldn’t hold the edge, but the DTs didn’t do much inside. Our DTs are good at penetrating , but not holding the line.
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:10 am
Raider O,
To be fair the DEs couldn’t hold the point. Burgess and Edwards were situational pass rush/nickel rush types. Its another example of not putting players in a position to be successfull.
The DTs have been rank awful over this long-term stretch. Warren Sapp was at the end of his career and was more of knifing penetrator type…Tommy Kelly is unproven, Gerard Warren is also a penetrator and Terdell Sands is an underachiever. The linebackers are prized more for their speed and coverage ability and less on their ability to shed blockers and deliver big hits.
What it all suggests is that the Raiders have a pass defense mentality to defense. The run defense in Oakland will never be all that good. That’s fine…but being amoung the worst in the league is not acceptable either. Can’t win consistently that way.
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:12 am
LAKERSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:13 am
Also, did anyone notice that Ryan promptly found another DC Coordinator job. With all that is at stake in the NFL for head coaches….why would a coach reach out to a guy with the track record of Rob Ryan? Also, same can be said for Martindale. He is now the LB coach in Denver.
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Slob Ryan would have got another job regardless this offseason. If the Browns didn’t hire Mangini, his brother Rex would have hired him in New York. Guys hire people they are fond of and/or familiar with.
Ryan & Martindale are both 3-4 coaches. No surprise they got hired and only received interest from teams planning to implement a 3-4 defense. What puzzles me the most is why Al Davis decided to keep 3-4 coaches after he dumped the 3-4 scheme? makes no sense. guys should be coaching something they are familiar with or good at. something they beleive in and have the tools for.
Funny thing is we probably could have hired John Marshall prior to the 2005 season to run our 4-3 defense before Ray Rhodes health failed him early on and Marsh guided that defense to the Super Bowl that year!
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:16 am
Got a problem defending the runs?
Are you losing the battle at the ring of scrimmage?
Is your gap disciplined? Got holes that aren’t being plugged?
You need Turdell Bismol. Reach the Bowl with confidence.
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:18 am
SnB,
I did say that the DEs can’t hold the edge.
I disagree, We had a few run stuffers like Ted Washington and Sam Adams.
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:18 am
RaiderRockstar,
Your previous post 414, is exactly what frustrates me about the current situation. I am unsure if Davis really knows what he wants on defense, but its clear that he is directing the philosophy used. At least Marshall is a 43 guy. That alone should help.
My concern is about the aggressiveness of the defense in 2009. Regardless of scheme…etc..the Raider defense seemed way to passive to me. They can’t be afraid of getting burned once in a while…they have to force more turnovers and offer some more challenges to the opposing QBs. Too many times the opponent scored when they had to… This has to stop
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:19 am
Yes I work in marketing…
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:19 am
“Davis wanted the attitude and personality. It makes no sense to hire a 3-4 pressure coach to run a 4-3 pass protection defense. The Raiders brought in Warren Sapp when Sapp was not a 3-4 NT type. Made no sense. Then they switched back to the 4-3 after one season and underinvested in the D-Line.”
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Same with DeAngelo Hall.
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:22 am
The linebackers are prized more for their speed and coverage ability and less on their ability to shed blockers and deliver big hits
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S&B: you hit the nail on the head here, but I think you zero’d in on 1 position instead of looking at the bigger picture. the defense (not just the offense) – well, the entire team actually is built on 1 thing: SPEED
pass rushers: Burgess, Scott, Edwards
not pass rushers: Richardson, Gunheim (yikes!)
penetrators: Kelly, Warren, Joseph
not penetrators: Sands, Wakefield (yikes!)
speedy coverage LB’s: Morrison, Howard, Alston
not speedy: Brown, Thomas, Williams (yikes!)
speedy DB’s: every one of them!
This year we’ve brought in Matt Shaughnessy & Frantz Joseph, who are not speedsters. But who knows what role they’ll play (if any) ???
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:24 am
BSJ,
LMAO
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:24 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:16 am
Got a problem defending the runs?
Are you losing the battle at the ring of scrimmage?
Is your gap disciplined? Got holes that aren’t being plugged?
You need Turdell Bismol. Reach the Bowl with confidence.
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now that’s funny !!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:25 am
Turdell Bismol…
LOL @ BSJ!
Raider O: the Raider only had Sam Adams for one year (2002) and we went to the Super Bowl that year.
coincidence?
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:26 am
RR,
I like Frantz a lot, and I think he makes the 53 man roster as backup LB and ST player.
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:27 am
RaiderRockstar,
And then added more speed in this year’s draft.
DHB – Speed
Mitchell – Speed (defensive backs are all about speed)
Shaughnessy – Maybe a run stopping guy
Murphy – Speed
Norris – 230lb defensive end?????
Slowak – All speed
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:30 am
RR,
Coincidence?
No, but we had a great offense. Gannon, Rice, Brown, Garner, and a great Oline!
We didn’t need a defense that year, that was the year Gannon had 10+ games over 300+ yards!
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:30 am
And then added more speed in this year’s draft.
DHB – Speed
Mitchell – Speed (defensive backs are all about speed)
Shaughnessy – Maybe a run stopping guy
Murphy – Speed
Norris – 230lb defensive end?????
Slowak – All speed
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exactly. Norris & Sulak are both tweeners. Nessy is buried on the depth chart behind guys like Ellis, Scott and probably Burgess
I give F. Joseph about a 10 percent chance of making the 53 man roster
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:31 am
Without hearing about the goings on at training camp, I am going to forecast that Frantz Joseph is not making this football team.
He can’t run…and I am not being dismissive on this one. Who does Joseph take off the roster? Alston is the SLB…Ekijuba is a pro-bowl caliber ST guy, Brown is a the backup LB and ST guy.
Maybe its Sam Williams that goes. Ah, but then again Joseph still has to deal with 4th round pick Slade Norris and Stryker Slowak is probably a Linebacking type too.
Oh, did I mention that Joseph can’t run. Joseph has a mountain to climb. Maybe he can sneak onto the practice squad.
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:33 am
Raider O Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:30 am
RR,
Coincidence?
No, but we had a great offense. Gannon, Rice, Brown, Garner, and a great Oline!
We didn’t need a defense that year, that was the year Gannon had 10+ games over 300+ yards!
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But you always will have a game like the Tampa S.B where the offense gets bogged down. ALways have those games where the offense is just going to struggle.
If the defense can’t stop the run or get off the field on 3rd down…you will end up on the wrong side of 8-8
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:35 am
I won’t be too upset if we cut a player named France.
Right Dakota?
I could just imagine Berman calling our D the Maginot Line.
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:37 am
I remember in 02 I didn’t care if the other teams scored. We were going to score more.
That was our year!! The NFL didn’t do anything to take ir away from us that year. We list due to:
-It was Gruden’s team, and he was ready for us, especially Gannon!
-Bill C didn’t adjust his game plan soon enough, and he was out- coached.
-Our C was MIA
-TB played a better game due to the above, and they wanted it more!!
Too bad!!!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:40 am
Take it away, Lost, sorry.
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:42 am
Ricky Brown, Jon Alston, Sam Williams, Isaiah Ekejiuba and Jon Condo are all good special teams guys …
Except for Sam Williams I’d say all these guys are locks. But then we drafted Slade Norris who can take his place!
Sulak is playing DE in OTA’s, even though Cable said we would try him at OLB right after the draft. Nixon has been playing well in camp & OTA’s according to Jerry Mac and he’s faster than Joseph. I think Nixon makes the practice squad and Joseph will be cut and latch on to another team’s practice squad. Maybe Baltimore? yikes!
The Raiders defense is all about speed, unfortunately. Heart, strength or even fundamentals don’t matter …
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:52 am
Eric Dickerson Says L.A. Doesn’t Deserve A Team
A member of the TMZ.com patrol of citizen videographers caught up with Hall of Fame running back Eric Dickerson, asking him when Los Angeles will get another NFL team.
“First of all, L.A. don’t deserve a team,” Dickerson said. “They ain’t gonna support it.”
Dickerson then made an analogy.
“L.A. is like a bad kid,” Dickerson said. “[H]is ball is laying over there, he don’t wanna play with the ball. But when . . . somebody else picks the ball up, then he wants the ball.”
Dickerson then explained the success of the Lakers thusly: “When the Lakers are winning, it’s crowded. But when the Lakers are losing, you could roll a stick of dynamite in there and blow up nothing but the floor.”
Dickerson played for the Los Angeles Rams
-PFT
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how do you guys feel about this ???
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:57 am
Three members of the Dallas Cowboys — Marc Colombo, Cory Procter, and Leonard Davis — belong to “Free Reign”, a heavy-metal band that has signed a recording deal with Riot Entertainment, of Australia. (Justin Chapman, who doesn’t play football, also is in the band.)
The Cowboys issued a release on Tuesday morning announcing the development. Free Reign’s debut EP will be released later this year, and they’ll be headlining on June 27 at the House of Blues in Dallas.
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LOL! Chris Morris, Paul McQuistan & James Marten should start up a band too, since they aren’t contributing anything to the o-line …
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:58 am
CB Fernando Bryant retired.
NO !!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:02 am
I think Dickerson is right on. So much to do in LA, most of the fans are “casual” fans at best, and they won’t support a non-winner. IMO, the only hardcore fan base in LA are some Dodger fans, USC is a trend, Clippers have no base, two NFL teams came and went and NEVER came back, and there are plenty of hardcore Laker fans….but not too many at the games. Trust me, my cousin works for the Dodgers and I USED to work for a firm based out of Beverly Hills. My former boss calls himself a Laker fan, and the finals were the first games he watched since……last year’s finals. He didn’t even know who Pau Gasol was until 2 weeks ago.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:03 am
LOL! Chris Morris, Paul McQuistan & James Marten should start up a band too, since they aren’t contributing anything to the o-line …
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They can call themselves the first and 20’s.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:06 am
Sources say Al Davis is willing to cut maligned Raiders S Michael Huff if he doesn’t show improvement in the near future. Huff, the team’s 2006 first-round pick (seventh overall), has been working at strong safety during OTAs and minicamps, and we hear he’s likely to be released if he doesn’t earn a starting spot. The 26-year-old has been a major disappointment and was demoted from the starting lineup to the bench midway through last season. He has yet to show signs of figuring things out this offseason.
-Pro Football Weekly
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Marsh is trying him at SS (again?) No !!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:08 am
Word out of Oakland is Raiders fourth-round pick WR Louis Murphy impressed observers with his work ethic during the team’s OTAs and minicamps. Murphy stood out in a receiving corps in major need of a playmaker, while first-round choice WR Darrius Heyward-Bey spent much of his time on the sideline nursing a hamstring injury.
-Pro Football Weekly
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S&B may be right!
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:09 am
I honestly thought Huff was better his year at SS than he was at FS. That may not be saying a lot however.
I am a tad worried about the durability of Branch at SS. The guy broke his hand in training camp, than was hyped as a great kick-returner, and on his first return ran 20 yards, slipped and fell untouched and broke his shoulder. Yikes!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:13 am
vegas raider Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:03 am
LOL! Chris Morris, Paul McQuistan & James Marten should start up a band too, since they aren’t contributing anything to the o-line …
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They can call themselves the first and 20’s
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Very nice. If they read this blog, I’m sure they’ll mullet over.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:17 am
Vegas: imagine Branch trying to “lay the wood” on Michael Bush in training camp!
Huff might make the team by default (injury) …
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:20 am
- They can call themselves the first and 20’s
- If they read this blog, I’m sure they’ll mullet over.
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LOL!
they could do a remake of the Beck song “where it’s at? we got three turnstiles and a microphone!”
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:20 am
vegas raider Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:02 am
I think Dickerson is right on. So much to do in LA, most of the fans are “casual” fans at best, and they won’t support a non-winner. IMO, the only hardcore fan base in LA are some Dodger fans, USC is a trend, Clippers have no base, two NFL teams came and went and NEVER came back, and there are plenty of hardcore Laker fans….but not too many at the games. Trust me, my cousin works for the Dodgers and I USED to work for a firm based out of Beverly Hills. My former boss calls himself a Laker fan, and the finals were the first games he watched since……last year’s finals. He didn’t even know who Pau Gasol was until 2 weeks ago.
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I think LA would support a football team at a newer venue. The Coliseum sucks. The Chargers in Orange County would be a guaranteed sellout.
In any scenario there would be many superficial fans, but that is just a symptom of the big problem in LA: Plastic Fantastic. They named their hockey team the Mighty Ducks to promote a movie for Al’s sakes!
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:20 am
RaiderRockstar,
Louis Murphy was overlooked because of Percy Harvin. Many had him going as high as the 2nd round. Murphy is used to making plays on a big stage and he already commented how comfortable he is with the offense…says there are similiarities with the Florida offense….
He’s been very vocal in camp which speaks to his confidence. I think he’s going to develop nicely in the slot…while Schilens and JLH work the outside.
Don’t ask me where Javon fits in all this cause I don’t know.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:20 am
Rockstar,
Don’t get me wrong, I liked what we saw from Branch in his limited play. The question is can he hang with the pounding physically that a Raider SS has to put up with. Those RB’s come a lot harder at you in Oakland due to Sands and Kelly playing patty-cake at the line, and Morrison overpursing leaving the ball-carrier untouched.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:23 am
Interesting that LA would have two baseball teams, two hockey teams, two basketball teams, two major Pac10 college programs and no football team.
I think LA’s situation has more to do with the refusal to publicly finance a stadium. With the exception of the Staples Center…all the stadiums in LA are old.
But hey…good for them…they didn’t yield to the pressure to spend public money and were more than willing to deal with the consequences.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:25 am
BSJ,
Orange county is different from LA, just look at the Angels. Those fans show up early and stay late, as opposed to the opposite for LA teams.
The coliseum does stink, but USC does just fine there. If they opened a new stadium it would sellout for awhile, it would another “trendy” thing for LA people to cling to, but the nostalgia would ultimately wear-off.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:26 am
Folks…here’s what your missing about the safety situation.
Tom Cable AND Al Davis don’t like Michael Huff’s play on the field. Tyvon Branch and Mike Mitchell are purported to be physical hitters with the speed to play in coverage.
Hiram Eugene is the good trooper.
Michael Huff WILL NOT be a starter on this team. The Mike Mitchell draft ensured that. The vision is to have Mitchell and Branch as the starting safeties.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:31 am
Wow the Spurs got Richard Jefferson for free almost. That’s some athleticism the Spurs dearly needed.
So let’s see the Bucks had the 6th pick in the draft a few years ago, drafted Yi Jianlian, traded him and another player for Richard Jefferson and now traded him for Bruce Bowen, Kurt Thomas and Oberto. Nice work Milwaukee!!!! The ineptness of NBA GM’s is uncanny at times.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:32 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
The Raiders defense is all about speed, unfortunately. Heart, strength or even fundamentals don’t matter …
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RRS — What?? For one of the more “serious” regulars in here, that is one of the more misinformed (or ignorant) statements you’ve made to date.
Which players lack the heart? Guys like Huff, who have been phased-out of starting roles? Is it Huff’s heart? Some say so. But then, that would go to show that at least your heart-doesn’t-matter theory is wrong. Otherwise, he’d still be #1 somewhere in the backfield.
Likewise, who (other than you) said strength and fundamentals don’t matter? Is this a wide-ranging statement, based on the general feeling the LAST Defensive Coordinator didn’t stress fundamentals enough?
Your saying that strength doesn’t matter is almost too silly. Saying that fundamentals don’t matter — even before you’ve seen a thing from this year’s DC (or players) — is just throwing out an opinion not based on fact. That’s what bad “journalists” do…the same guys (and gals) we hammer in here for their bad reporting.
Even RR’s defenses cared about fundamentals — he just didn’t know how to coach his players up. He was the real “buddy” Ryan to his favorite players. To all his players, RR was about as disciplined as he was groomed. That’s something THIS Defensive Coordinator should have a chance to correct before he’s hammered for another regime’s past failures.
Objectivity, RRS…a novel concept.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:32 am
USC and UCLA have shown there are plenty of avid football fans in LA who are willing to go to games. The NFL just needs to leverage those established brands to ensure fan support.
Introducing your new NFL franchise, the Los Angeles Brojans!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:34 am
Spurs got Richard Jefferson for all that junk? Bummer. Still Jefferson’s best days are behind him and he is injury prone, so big effing deal.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:36 am
Vegas,
LA did what other cities refused to do. They refused to put up the public money for a stadium. Unfortunately for them, it resulted in having no team.
I say good for them. Focus public money on areas of need and let private enterprise either fund or not fund a stadium endeavor.
Other cities view sports as a more important fabric of the community. LA has other priorities. I think thats fine
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:36 am
BSJ,
When USC and UCLA play a game with say 90,000 people there, there is at least 5-10% that are opposing fans and students and probably 20-30% (or more) who are either current students or alumni. Call it a 1/3 of the crowd, so that’s 60,000 people left. Now double or triple the ticket prices, and have a so-so team on the field and what do you have left?
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:39 am
Fair enough Hayes, but what is YOUR source(s) for the following statement?
“Even RR’s defenses cared about fundamentals — he just didn’t know how to coach his players up. He was the real “buddy” Ryan to his favorite players. To all his players, RR was about as disciplined as he was groomed.”
I have not heard of a player/employee claim that Rob had favorites or was undisciplined. This seems like more of the “opinion disguised as fact” that you were harping on…
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:41 am
SnB,
Agree, but let’s not make LA out as some model of fiscal conserviteness. There schools are worsening, crime is as high as ever and budget gaps are growing by the day. Sometimes you have to spend money to make money. Besides a lot of stadiums are funded at least partially through municipal bonds, leaving locals the opportunity to have a safe local investment, not to mention the thousands of jobs it provides. Now is not the time obviously (just look at the Yankees new stadium mess) but they blew it by not funding a project a few years ago, IMO.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:42 am
The vision is to have Mitchell and Branch as the starting safeties.
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I disagree. Branch was drafted (4th round) to replace Cooper as the ST gunner and for some depth in the secondary. He played corner at U Conn
He and Huff are both a bad fit for strong safety. Mike Mitchell and Keith Davis are your ideal SS’s …
If this was my football team I’d have Huff & Branch fight for the FS position and cut Hiram Eugene – good trooper or not. Sam Williams is a good trooper too, but neither of these guys should be anything more than special teams, depth or camp fodder.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:45 am
HayesDaze37: why don’t you look at the entire conversation that we had for an hour or whatever instead of waiting for one line you didn’t agree with and attacking me?
If you don’t think speed is the #1 priority to this football team, you are clearly delusional
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:49 am
vegas raider Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:36 am
BSJ,
When USC and UCLA play a game with say 90,000 people there, there is at least 5-10% that are opposing fans and students and probably 20-30% (or more) who are either current students or alumni. Call it a 1/3 of the crowd, so that’s 60,000 people left. Now double or triple the ticket prices, and have a so-so team on the field and what do you have left?
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For a 60,000 seat stadium I could foresee 3000 (or more, see below) visitor fans and the rest taken from the 170,000+ who regularly attend USC/UCLA home games. If either college is on the road or not playing it’ll be an easy sellout.
Also, remember there are MANY east coast and midwest transplants who could push attendance numbers when, say, the Eagles or Giants or Cowboys visit. And these non-natives would be the strongest supporters of a new franchise too, especially if their old team is down. The spineless who move west to LA are just the kind of fans to jump ship!
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:49 am
Eugene outperformed Huff and you want to cut him?
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:52 am
Ummm, RRS — Even RR said they focused on fundamentals. That’s what they do in camps and OTA’s. Newsflash: Some coaches are better than others. Your over-simplified fingerpointing at a heartless, weak, and lacking-in-fundamentals defense is waaaaaay premature…this staff (or defense) hasn’t even been seen in public yet.
And…a giant YAY for all the speed. Never enough speed. Speed, speed, and more speed, baby. This coaching staff’s job is to make it all work. If they can’t coach-up all that speed to our advantage, then I say hammer ‘em. Then you can say “told ya so,” if you feel it’s important at that stage. Me, I’m hoping my optimism isn’t just hollow — and that this staff will get the job done.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:52 am
Dakota Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:34 am
Spurs got Richard Jefferson for all that junk? Bummer. Still Jefferson’s best days are behind him and he is injury prone, so big effing deal.
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No Bowen = Kobe for 40+ per game. And Thomas was also effective on Gasol and Odom. They’re done.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:53 am
BSJ,
Maybe for a 60,000 seat stadium, but what new NFL stadium is that small? Most are pushing the high 70’s and the Redskins and Cowboys are close to the 90’s I believe.
Oh well, it’s a moot point anyways, they won’t have a team for years, if at all. California is about to go bankrupt, and I don’t see anyone stepping up to the plate to fully fund the whole dealie right now.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:54 am
RRS — It was no attack. You made a terribly naive statement about this team lacking heart, strength, and fundamentals. We don’t know any of that at this stage. It was no attack, just an observation on your statement.
Let’s move on.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:56 am
FREE THE LA BROJANS!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:00 pm
HayesDaze37: you blame Rob Ryan, I blame Rob Ryan …
We are on the same page.
I think Marsh deserves a shot to take these guys and put something productive on the field
I’m not opposed to having a fast football team if they can get the job done. However, our track record of drafting athletes instead of football players hasn’t paid off to date.
I hate choosing potential over production as well. If they can’t tear it up in college, what makes AD think they can tear it up in the pros? better coaching? more money?
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:01 pm
I don’t know abouT the defense as a whole, but I think it’s safe to say the LB’s lack some strength, the Safeties lacked some fundamentals, and clowns like Sands on the D-line certainly lacked heart, at least part of the time.
But we got SPEED!!! YIPPEE!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Any new NFL stadium better be able to accomodate the Super Bowl and other events…meaning minimum amounts of seats available. 60,000 won’t cut it.
No team — even the Raiders at their greatest — should’ve tried to fill the L.A. Coliseum.
Not only was it in one of the ummm, “least pleasant” areas for a professional event to be regularly staged…but, in such a large metro area with a lot of options on where to spend money, filling a stadium to 90,000 people just isn’t realistic unless every game is a playoff game. And we all know how that’s been going.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Eugene outperformed Huff and you want to cut him?
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Eugene didn’t out perform anybody. they both stunk. Every safety for the past 5 years with Ryan as DC has stunk!
Cable put Hiram on scholarship, just like Kwame and Huggy Jr.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:09 pm
i never said Eugene was great,but he did out perform Huff,even if you don’t want to admit it.btw,that isn’t saying a lot.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Huff makes too much money to be a backup!! If he is not the starter, he will be cut to keep a guy like Davis or Boyd for less money. IMHO
If Boyd can cover, then I think we will keep him. 6′2 220 and runs a sub 4.5!! That’s an Al Davis guy.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:14 pm
In Eugene didn’t play better, why did he start over Huff??!!
Eugene played better than Huff.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:18 pm
They named their hockey team the Mighty Ducks to promote a movie for Al’s sakes!
Classic…and I belive!!!!
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Interested in your opinions. Why would Al Davis keep Rob Ryan around so long when he has replaced the head coach numerous times? In fact, Ryan was never fired.
I think the one year when we were ranked like 5th over all in defense Uncle AL thought that was all due to he and Slobert Ryan working sooo close together and we all know once he gets a seed planted!!! I think RRyan was on the famous “scholar ship” program we are all so fond of!!!
Double R,
how could you be soooo naive?!?!?!?!LOL its hard to sense 1/2 sarcasim 1/2 wit and all truth through key strokes!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:18 pm
ask any coach what is one of the main assets a player must have that can’t be taught and they’ll say-speed.ask Meyers in Florida.because the media makes a big deal about Davis picking players based on speed so do some on here.granted Davis goes to extremes,but every coach loves speed.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:18 pm
That sad thing is that Baker, I thought, played better than all of them, and he is the one gone.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:19 pm
In Eugene didn’t play better, why did he start over Huff??!!
Eugene played better than Huff.
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Raider O:
ask yourself the same question about Henderson vs Harris or McFadden/Bush vs Fargas
and why is Cornell Green starting at RT the last 2 years?
Cable is a good OL coach for the zbs, but he isn’t the best talent evaluator we’ve seen
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Every coach does love speed Lefty, but some value production on the field as well. Al glosses over that stuff way too much and focus solely on the 40 time, at least when it comes to the draft. See: 2009 draft as an example.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Speed never slumps
- Whitey Herzog
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
yes you can belive in anything it’s a dirivitive of the root word Believe!!
WHO the he11 is webster anyways!!!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Vegas,
They were all bad, that’s why u want to see theyoung guns: Branch and Mitchell!
What should we call them?
Hitman, judge, Assassin, etc…
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Branch : Missile, 4eva started that.
Mitchell: ???? I can’t think of anything!
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:28 pm
What should we call Mike Mitchell?
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:28 pm
O,
I’ll take any of those nicknames, guys that stink usually don’t have a cool nickname.
I called Mitchell the Kimbo Slice of the draft when we took him. All internet hype through grainy videos where he looks like the greatest thing ever. Let’s hope we are not calling Mitchell “Kimbo” in a few years.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Hiram Eugene is a depth guy. Not a starter. As for Michael Huff….I really thought he was going to get another shot to seriously compete this year.
I know Rockstar you disagree….but I think Mitchell is SS and Branch moved to FS or vice-versa…the bottom line is that adding Mitchell gives John Marshall flexibility with Branch.
The Raiders don’t draft Mike Mitchell if Michael Huff was performing
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:30 pm
vegas raider Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:28 pm
O,
I called Mitchell the Kimbo Slice of the draft when we took him. All internet hype through grainy videos where he looks like the greatest thing ever. Let’s hope we are not calling Mitchell “Kimbo” in a few years.
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Funniest thing I’ve read in awhile….”Grainy videos” LOL, LOL
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Kimbo Slice….LOL
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Grainy videos because it was shot in the perverbial backyard….LOL
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Vegas,
What happend to Kimbo, did he lose a fight?
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Davis treats the draft like college coaches treat recruiting-you go on potential.just as not all blue chip high school recruits turn out to be good college players,not all blue chip college players turn into great pros.i,too,would like to see him go more on production,but that isn’t how he operates.i don’t know that Davis looks for good players,he is always looking for players that might turn out to be great.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Mike The Terminator Mitchell!! lol
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:36 pm
O,
He got knocked out in like 10 seconds by a UFC tomato can. Guess he is going on the Ultimate Fighter show this year, should be interesting.
Mitchell is from Kentucky, so the Kentucky Killer? Too harsh? Kind of sounds like a WWE monikor.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:37 pm
If Mike Mitchell can bring some physical toughness then that’s fine for now. Need someone that will get some tone setting hits. The Raiders have played like a soft team of late. They need to get some type of swagger to their game.
The challenge for Mitchell….and what has me nervous…is the cerebral part of the game and the difference in talent and speed from the MAC to the NFL. That’s going to take some time I think.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Mike the Enforcer!!
Mike the Punisher!!
Mike Jones!! Who is mike Jones?? I smoke! Drink! Mike Jones! lol
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Oh well, it’s a moot point anyways, they won’t have a team for years, if at all. California is about to go bankrupt, and I don’t see anyone stepping up to the plate to fully fund the whole dealie right now
Maybe Vegas.As of today the Golden state is about 17 Billion in the red.Countless auditing has shown that the taxes made off of Marijuana at roughly 9 Billion a year.Golden State can truely be golden in less than 5 years,imo
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Mitchell is from Kentucky, so the Kentucky Killer? Too harsh? Kind of sounds like a WWE monikor.
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You’re killin me man!!!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:39 pm
SnB Defense Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Hiram Eugene is a depth guy. Not a starter. As for Michael Huff….I really thought he was going to get another shot to seriously compete this year.
I know Rockstar you disagree….but I think Mitchell is SS and Branch moved to FS or vice-versa…the bottom line is that adding Mitchell gives John Marshall flexibility with Branch.
The Raiders don’t draft Mike Mitchell if Michael Huff was performing
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Shoot, i don’t see why we don’t just runa full time nickle D.. Start either Huff or Eugene at FS, and start both Mitchell and Branch in a double SS.. They can’t be any worse at stopping the run than Alston or Brown.. If Mitchell can lay the wood then we’d get more turnovers also..
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Vegas,
Too bad!!! I thought he was special.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:40 pm
WHO the he11 is webster anyways!!!!!
The Devil and Max Webster
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Legalize!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
See 4eva, that would be using their heads to think outside the box. Apparently thoughts like that are against the rules these days in the political spectrum. Did you ever see the CNBC report called “Marijuana inc.”? It highlighted those points, came out a few months ago.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:43 pm
We can call him M&M! lol
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Yep and watch your budget woes go up in SMOKE!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:45 pm
No vegas I didnt see that report but…have read many others.Throw da bums outta office that wont do the will of the people.
Of The People 4 The People
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
How much do we spend on the Mexican Border every year? Legalize!
How much do we spend on the DEA and others? Legalize!
How much do we spend at courts and the legal system over that issue? Legalize!
How much do I love smoking? I love it!! Legalize!!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
4eva,
Check out the link below, looks like it will be on tonight, so check your local listings if interested. Highly recommended.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/28281668/
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Mike the Intimidator Mitchell.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Well folks, going to check out for a few, be back in a bit.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:51 pm
S&B: I’m all for giving Huff another shot. everybody on this blog knows that. I’m not for scholarships however. Eugene being a favorite and Huff being in the doghouse is a bunch of cr@p imo. Put the best players on the field period – even if it’s Darrick Brown at FS and Jerome Boyd at SS!
Here’s what concerns me about losing Huff:
#1 he has a ton of potential and was used out of position and with bad coaching by Rob Ryan
#2 of all the safeties in camp, he has by far the best “proven” cover skills. Can any of these other safeties cover a TE or help cover a WR? We know Mitchell & Branch can deliver a big hit and neither lacks in the speed dept, but that doesn’t mean they can cover … Just because you own some tools, doesn’t mean you can call yourself a builder. Eugene is an average tackler and slightly below average in coverage. not a playmaker, thats for sure!
#3 the cap hit
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Thank You Vegas!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:55 pm
is there any way we could keep
Nnamdi/Johnson
Branch/Mitchell
Routt/Huff
Eugene/???
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Let’s just hope we’re not calling Mitchell “toast” in coverage like Roy Williams in Dallas or Derrick Gibson & Gibril Wilson in Oakland!
the same can be said for Branch, who has been abused by TE’s during OTA’s by guys like Tony Stewart, Darrell Strong and Chris O’Neill … what happens when we face Antonio Gates in Week 1 on MNF ???
Yikes!
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Later Vegas.
What about: Mike “I’ll eat your kids” Mitchell?
Sorry, that’s Iron Mike. lol
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:58 pm
No O thats just eat your ear Tyson
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Legalize it & I’ll advertise it.
Peter Tosh
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Rockstar,
I agree with your points. I think Huff has a ton of potential and was misused early in his career. The Raiders should have had a malpractice or negligence suit filed against them for mismanaging Michael Huff’s career to this point.
I just feel its too late for him now. Damage done. Cable doesn’t like him and Davis has already distanced himself from the draft that year.
Like you, I thought another chance with a better coaching staff would make the difference….but alas Cable and Davis see another Jack Tatum in Mitchell and Eugene has cut out a nice niche as a coach favorite.
It is what it is….
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:13 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Let’s just hope we’re not calling Mitchell “toast” in coverage like Roy Williams in Dallas or Derrick Gibson & Gibril Wilson in Oakland!
the same can be said for Branch, who has been abused by TE’s during OTA’s by guys like Tony Stewart, Darrell Strong and Chris O’Neill … what happens when we face Antonio Gates in Week 1 on MNF ???
Yikes!
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When so many players have failed at the same safety position for so long….clearly the system employed is badly broken. Hopefully, John Marshall can put some sanity back into the system and hopefully the front 7 can manage the run well enough so the safeties can focus on pass coverage.
Still remember that play in Baltimore where Flacco hit a wide open receiver for 60+ yards on 3rd down and Gibril Wilson was nowhere to be found
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Michael Huff will be a star in this league.
I’m ready to eat some crow for this comment, but it’s going to happen…
Al Davis is going to regret cutting Huff Daddy, if indeed they fail to give him an opportunity under the Marshall Plan
what happens if we face him and he blankets Zach Miller and takes him out of the game, thus removing Russell’s security blanket? could be a long day! we know he has it in him. We’ve seen him shut down Gonzalez, Gates & Scheffler 12 or 13 times
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Still remember that play in Baltimore where Flacco hit a wide open receiver for 60+ yards on 3rd down and Gibril Wilson was nowhere to be found
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I still remember when Cutler destroyed our pass defense (supposed to be our strength) on MNF without Brandon Marshall. Avoided Nnamdi & Huff (left side of the field) and exposed MeAngelo & Wilson all game long. He made Royal, a rookie, look like a 5 time Pro Bowler
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:31 pm
In my humble opinion…part of the reason why Raider safety play has been so bad is that they are called upon to play the run too much.
Palomalu, Ed Reed, Landry, and even Gibril Wilson in NYG…have front 7s that can contain the run allowing them to roam free in the secondary ball hawking and laying the wood on receivers and tight ends.
In Oakland, Gibril Wilson had over 100 tackles…that’s ridiculous.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:36 pm
part of the reason why Raider safety play has been so bad is that they are called upon to play the run too much.
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Agreed. a DB trying to tackle a RB 1-on-1 running with a full head of steam who already sees paydirt is a losing battle (unless that RB is Justin Fargas)
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:41 pm
THE HUFF DEBATE:
Besides being able to shut down premiere TE’s what has Huff brought to the table????
Anyone?
A playmaking FS is what we thought we drafted. How many missed int’s? How many blown tackles? Where are the big plays to go with the once big contract? We thought we were getting an Ed Reed and insted we got…. well, we got a Michael Huff. I think I heard the same stuff about Fabian Washington, about how he’s gonna tear it up with another team (he’s just an average #2 CB for Balt IMO). Point is, go make some playes. I would rather kept Baker than Huff. Baker at least has some stand out plays I can still remember. Nothing comes to mind for Huff….
Oh, and if Huff has been played “out of position” what position is he suposed to be playing?
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
He played SS for like 2 games, after failing at FS…. Then back to SS, then back to FS…. On and on, he cant make plays anywhere…
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
4evaRaider Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Sup Dogg!?!?”
Just swooping in for a minute to check things out. How you livin bro?
Life’s got me running these days, so I hardly post anymore.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Look out San Diego Bobby and Raider is comming at you!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:58 pm
haterdogg,
thanks for the love bro!!! you like the DEAD?? we know m-lonetree does…he’s always wishin it was jerry not jeff we had signed!!! I say hell it could have been Andy for all i care!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:59 pm
bobertsIV Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
ahhh…B.J.’s,
I still love ur moniker we all know what it stans for and if jerry knew the ban would be for life ur a naughty man….. DONT LET UR CHILDREN BLOG IN THE DARK WITH B.J.’s
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Ingles por favor, Roberto! Something just kicked in, but I’m afraid it’s your cabeza!
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:59 pm
thats Garcia for you slowbies….”dakota, wannabe”
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Bob,
Dakota is good people, too bad he’s a Rep! lol
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
He played SS for like 2 games, after failing at FS…. Then back to SS, then back to FS…. On and on, he cant make plays anywhere…
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False. He played SS for 2 years. Started the first 5 games of last year at FS before being benched in favor of Hiram Eugene
you have no idea what you’re talking about!
come on man.
how many dropped INT’s ?
how many missed tackles ?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:04 pm
too bad he’s a Rep! lol
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say nothing more!!!! Dakota Im very sorry for your loss and in this time of need I completly understan ur need to reach out to fellow dunce wearing friends makes sense and I’m sorry for ever bashing you (underbreathlaughing) rocker??? you a R aswell??? just curious gotta run much love to my fans you know who you are Jerry thanks for the goos work!!!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:05 pm
some time you get the bear some time the bear gets you!!!! BRING ON THE HAIR!!!!! gotta go bro!!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Dogg! Howz the sweet suite hookup going?”
you tell me, have you seen Dell in here lately?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Bob,
I know all the places here, when you come I’ll take care of you.
We will have a smoke out!
4eva and others,
You are all invited to the Smoke Out!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
4evaRaider Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Daquiri’s day and nite and good 4 you work is keeping you buzzy Dogg!!!”
Keeping me BUZZY, I like that. My Buzzy ain’t cheap
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Dakota carries a gun? I hope not during Cubs season…
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Bob,
LMAO @ 548.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Dakota carries a gun? I hope not during Cubs season…
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LOL. yeah, good thing he chose the Lakers and not the Clippers!
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:11 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Dogg! Howz the sweet suite hookup going?”
you tell me, have you seen Dell in here lately?
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D’OH!!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Dakota carries a gun? I hope not during Cubs season…”
Steve Bartman has been missing for weeks. I have said too much.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Dogg,
I’m sorry to say that Dell is taking a little break from the place, but he said he wiki be back in July.
We miss you Dell, come back soon bro.
Where is LMN?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Will be back, sorry.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Raider O
Thanks for the skinny on Dell, I wonder how thing’s worked out with his Raider fan client that inherited all that cash. Something about a suite for the select few of us.
LMN must be on vacation. Probably at a Blues Festival somewhere in Amsterdam.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:15 pm
RR,
Who is Manny?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Manny Ramirez …
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Blues festival! lol I hope so.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:20 pm
RR,
That dude is a little odd. I watched him on ESPN a few times.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:27 pm
RR,
I read the article you posted about Huff. Like I said, too much money to sit on the bench. If Boyd or Davis play better than him ( and they will IMHO) , he will be cut.
As for him becoming a star for another team, I can’t tell. But I to know this, the Bills wanted him, and after we drafted him they took DW. Worked well for them, so maybe another team who was interested in him in the draft will give him another chance. Atleast as a backup. He is only 25/ 26.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Later RR.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:29 pm
False. He played SS for 2 years. Started the first 5 games of last year at FS before being benched in favor of Hiram Eugene
you have no idea what you’re talking about!
come on man.
how many dropped INT’s ?
how many missed tackl
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I was being sarcastic. Funny his best 2 years WERE at SS his freashman and junior year, but still wasnt what we thought we got. We originaly drafted him to be a FS and maybe some SS. In camp he won the starting SS job, didnt produce what we wanted so to “spark” something moved him to FS (FAILED). I can still hear myself yelling at the TV (on more than 1 occasion), “WTF Huff, that hit you in your F–king chest! My cat could have caught that pick with its a$$ hole!” (yeah, i yell stuff like that)
point is: We drafted him to be a playmaker… A game changer and never got any of that out of him. Not saying he cant because he has the measurables, it just hasnt gotten to the field yet. Can I get a stripped ball on special teams or something like that? anything and I’ll be on the Huff wagon too. I just want to win, and we need a guy that can force some turnovers IMO as a FS or SS….
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Take it easy RR
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:32 pm
BSJ….
Turdell “Bismol”.
You’re effing killing me, that was FUNNY! thanx I needed a good laugh. (:
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
But if Marshall can’t do much with Huff till pre season, he will be cut. He had his chance to make a few plays. RR or not, other players made a few plays. Shadowing TEs doesn’t count. TH can do that IMHO!
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
I’m done with Huff!! Out of position or not, he can’t make plays!!
How many INTs does he have, how many did Baker, Eugene, Branch, and Wilson have?!
Cut Huff, and let’s save some cap space to sign the new rookies.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Huff had 3 years to prove himself, time to give Branch and MM achance to show what they can do.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
D’OH!!!!
Soo…THATS how its spelled,thankx =)
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:45 pm
i’d be ok with keeping him on the roster 1 more year. Maybe he can turn it around. After all, we haven’t really had the supporting cast for ANY new raiders for a long time. I feel good about the Cable era, so maybe alot of the talent we have that havent been producing will make a change in the right direction. But…. If he cant snag the starting FS job and get some turnovers quickly, I’ll be over it too…
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:47 pm
white trash ebonics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MAN-O-MAN THAT IS SOME REALLY REALLY FUNNY SH!t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
I just hope that the Raiders don’t go and draft Taylor Mays or that guy from Tennessee…
Let someone (Huff, Mitchell, Branch) take the safety jobs
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Justin Fargas started 14 Games.
Carried the Ball 218 Times.
Scored 1 TD.
How do you do that?
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Correction:
Post 623: have a bad…
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Later O
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:39 pm
How bout them Raiders!!!!!!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Later KK.
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:32 pm
All my freinds ask me what the Raiders will do this year and I say “Yessir, 10 wins baby, it’s a lock!”
‘Course, I’ve said that for the last 7 years so my prognosticative skills obviously are lacking….no wonder I got turned down for that job as a phone psychic.
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Only time in a week I have time to post and the blog is deader than Todd Marinovich’s future, deader that Bob’s intellect, deader than Jeff Garcia’s arm.
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Deader than Jamarcus Russell’s diet.
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:16 pm
They won 5 games last year. Got better as the year went on. No more Kwame Harris. 5 additional games sounds reasonable.
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:46 pm
M,
You and me need to talk, I responded to your last post but it was deleted.
You said you studied about that area and it’s history. Well sir, you made a few mistakes, so please allow me to correct you when you have the time. I would post it again, but it may get deleted before you get a chance to read it.
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:15 pm
R8,
Dude, where are you? Are you still helping that lady?
Post when you can, I do miss reading your posts. I can’t tell you why, but I do!! lol
I hope all is well with you and your family, especially your daughter.
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:28 pm
The odds of the Raiders winning the SB are listed at 75:1!!!! Interesting!!!
What do you think Vegas?
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Why look at Mario and his new agent as a bad thing.
We can look at it as, Mario thinks he will be a great LT, and it looks as he wants to work on getting better to earn that big contract. What’s wrong with that?
If he plays as well as the best LTs in the game this year and next season to earn a big contract, then he should be paid as one. I don’t see the problem with him getting his new agent.
He was a 3rd RD pick, he is not making a lot of money, so why not play well and erarn a big contract. I like that!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:11 pm
How is it that so many think that so many have failed at the FS spot in this defense when Baker and Eugene were successful based on the coaches assesment.
The only failures that I can think of are Stu and Huff. And I predicted as much before the season but I keep reading how what we ask our FS to do, no one can do.
I remember Rod Woodson, Ronnie Lott, Jack Tatun and several others doing it very well some at a HOF level. But I keep reading in here that it is an unsound scheme. Well then why does Ed Reed excel at it? And don’t tell me that he doesn’t play it the same way because HE DOES. Ed Reed plays a deep middle but he is instinctive and anticipates extremely well.
Rashad Baker did what everyone in here said could not be done. Play FS in this system and be successful. HE DID IT!!! but everyone wants to make excuses for Huff and Stu ……….and it’s a load of crap.
Someone wrote that Murphy is a better route runner than DHB. I have to ask how do you know that? Murphy played strickly outside as did DHB most of the time except DHB was used in a variety of ways to get him the ball. Only they just didn’t throw much and when they did the ball went over the and in the seams to the TE’s. For someone to make that statement just shows flat out bias.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:31 pm
Priest
You can’t say with any sincerity that DHB’s college production warranted a #7.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:31 pm
Oh BTW, for all you cover2 and Tampa2 lovers. You know who you are. All of you who would’ve killed t get Raheem Morris from Tampa Bay to bring the Tampa2. To so-called modernize the Raider defense.
Well the MODERN defense was JUNKED by Raheem Morris in favor of a more traditional coverage simialr to what we run man, zone cover1 and 3. Seems all the MODERN defense advocates have disappeared of late since very few winning teams run it anymore.
I can’t tell you how many times I read that garbage thinking what the hell are these guy’s talking about! The Jediraiders and Scottish Raiders of this blog that fashioned themselves DC’s worthy of teaching pros how it’s done.
Where did they all go? the know it alls.
MODERN DEFENSE!! yeah right! just like the WCO is a MODERN offense only it’s been around since the late 70’s…..
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:35 pm
42 catches, 600 yds, 5 TD’S ?
He was average against college competition.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:39 pm
KK, of course those #’s don’t warrant a #7 pick. It goes without saying but if you look behind the #’s and what the kid brings to table talent wise the coaches saw what they wanted t see when they worked the kid out. Who am I to say they don’t know what they’re doing when I barely know what they’re doing.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:42 pm
Because they’ve drafted a ton of those types, and only Cliff Branch, turned out to be anything.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:43 pm
The Coaches saw what they wanted to see????? really.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:44 pm
What get’s to me in here is the know it alls that come in here and make all kinds of declarations based on zero info. they couldn’t care less if they were wrong they just want to vent. So they say anything out of frustration, most of it makes NO sense.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:47 pm
KK, Ralph Freidgen DHB’s coach will be on KNBR in the morning the 5am-9am show try and catch that show and you’ll see what I mean by the story behind the #’s
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Priest
You’re as guilty as the rest of us. If anybody disagrees with your “inside info” which you’ve yet to prove, you get all pushed out of shape. Just like you’re doing now.
This is a sports blog. Fans have every right to express their opinion. If the Raider Management can’t stand criticism, they ought to get out of public life.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:51 pm
KK, every team in the NFL has drafted a ton of those guy’s and only a few work out. We’ve drafted a ton and had success with many only a few have played at probowl levels. Calvin Muhammad and Dokie Williams helped us win a SB. Tim Brown worked out pretty well and he wasn’t even as skilled as DHB the truth be told.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Tim Brown worked out pretty well and he wasn’t even as skilled as DHB the truth be told.
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Really?
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:54 pm
Pushed out of shape? what makes you think that? seems that you are more than me.
We’re just discussing it, I’m OK with any disagreement, we can agree to disagree………..no prob.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:56 pm
KK, myinfo is no different than yours, I don’t have any inside info and why do you keep insisting that I do?
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:57 pm
I can’t tell you how many times I read that garbage thinking what the hell are these guy’s talking about! The Jediraiders and Scottish Raiders of this blog that fashioned themselves DC’s worthy of teaching pros how it’s done.
Where did they all go? the know it alls
Priesttj Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:44 pm
What get’s to me in here is the know it alls that come in here and make all kinds of declarations based on zero info. they couldn’t care less if they were wrong they just want to vent. So they say anything out of frustration, most of it makes NO sense.
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Don’t play stupid!
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:59 pm
If you’re going to play stupid, I’m going to bed. Conversing with someone who’s not intelecctualy (?)honest is a waste of time
June 24th, 2009 at 12:00 am
KK, didn’t you watch Tim Brown at ND most of the time he played HB. When he came to us he couldn’t run routes he was essentially a specialteams player who came in on 3rd down in the slot.
Tim Brown will tell to this day he didn’t run great routes he just found a way to get open.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:04 am
Go to bed, I wrote those based on my opinions ONLY.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:05 am
Tim Brown caught 43 passes as a rookie and made the Pro-Bowl.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:08 am
He made the probowl as a Special teams player KK, you of all people should know that. He led the league in returns same as he did at ND that’s how he won the heisman on teams.
KK, I’m a little surprised at you now. You should know this.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:10 am
Priesttj Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 12:00 am
KK, didn’t you watch Tim Brown at ND most of the time he played HB. When he came to us he couldn’t run routes he was essentially a specialteams player who came in on 3rd down in the slot.
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Tim Brown caught 43 passes as a rookie, made the Pro Bowl as a WR and started 9 games.
So you’re dead wrong, as usual. Yet you get so upset when people disagree with you.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:11 am
He made the Pro Bowl as a WR AND Return Man. Here’s the friggin proof
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/lineups.htm
June 24th, 2009 at 12:12 am
KK, wh did we have at WR when he was a rookie?
James Lofton, Mervyn Fernandez, Willie Gault and Tim Brown, who was going to cover Tim Brown a rookie when we had all that vet talent. They left him open.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:14 am
Look at the friggin LINK!
June 24th, 2009 at 12:15 am
Now you’re changing your friggin story. Oh he was left open. BS you made a statement and you were WRONG. AGAIN
June 24th, 2009 at 12:18 am
As a junior, he set a record with 1,937 all-purpose yards. He made the College Football All-America Team twice and won the Heisman Trophy in 1987, becoming the first wide receiver ever to win the award.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:19 am
KK, use some common sense you know as well as I do that Tim’s #’s as a rookie do NOT warrant the PB HE PLAYED WR yes but he got in as a teams player………..period. I didn’t mean he didn’t play WR but that did not get him to the PB his retuens did he returned two KR for TD’s that year and was an instant sensation on teams.
He was unbelievable on teams at ND but he also played HB and WR and slot back. He was a senational talent at ND but he was a very mediocre WR…….period
June 24th, 2009 at 12:23 am
He was similar Devin Hester is now when he came in he had to learn to play wideout position only Devin never played WR at the U he’s learning now. Where’s the argument here?
KK how is it that you argue this? have you never heard Tim talk about this?
June 24th, 2009 at 12:24 am
He won the Heisman as a WR, no?
See post 595 or this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Brown_(American_football)#College_career
June 24th, 2009 at 12:24 am
Gnite.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:37 am
KK, man you are argumentative for no good reason other than to argue. To say Tim won the heisman as a WR is misleading. Yes Tim played WR but he also played slotback, HB and his biggest plays were on special teams. As a KR and PR same as his rookie year. It was his game in totality that won the heisman. Tim Brown as a WR only would’ve NEVER won the heisman……….period
That’s what I mean and you know it.
Look at Tim’s stats as a WR and compare them to DHB I gaurantee you they are no better. And I haven’t even looked them up yet but I know I’m right. Al Davis was convinced that he could become a great WR but he almost didn’t until Art Shell convinced him to work harder at it.
Tim has told that story many times.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:38 am
And I’m talking about Tim’s collegiate stats at WR of course.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:02 am
KK, Tim Brown 137 receptions in FOUR years at ND
DHB 138 in just THREE years at Maryland
both played in run oriented schemes with very average QB’s the difference DHB played in a pro-style offense.
Yet Tim Brown is slated for the HOF and DHB is slated as a bust by the know it alls.
As I said truth be told DHB is a more skilled WR than Tim Brown coming into this league…………period
June 24th, 2009 at 1:15 am
Good debate. I have to admit that BHP seems to be one of the more lucid posters here in the off-season, although I have disagreed with him before.
Tim Brown was just a great football player, and had a great feel for the game. He was a great athlete and must have had the brains and desire to be great.
DHB is more of a pure WR than Tim Brown was in college. Tim Brown was just a great athlete that N.D. moved around to get him the ball. Tim Brown was actually more like McFadden in college (although he was not a RB all the time).
It doesn’t mean that DHB will be a better WR in the NFL than Brown. Tim Brown was a great FOOTBALL player, basta!
June 24th, 2009 at 1:17 am
And don’t forget, Tim Brown blew out his knee and lost speed and then restructured his game to still be great without his rookie speed.
I know a lot of you guys hate Tim Brown, but he was a great football player.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:32 am
And as far as schemes are concerned. Maybe the cover 2 is outdated now because teams have become so used to playing against it and could beat it?
June 24th, 2009 at 3:00 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 3:03 am
I would rather have Malcolm Barnwell than Tim Brown any day of the week
June 24th, 2009 at 3:56 am
What’s up Timmy gets so much grief because ya got have the ring to be a great Raider not always fair but thats the way it rolls we ain’t da chargers.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:39 am
nothing against Timmy I always liked him,I just think Barnwell as a natural reciever as opposed 2 Timmy having 2 learn it.Thats all
June 24th, 2009 at 5:49 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Good post Copenhagen…Timmy became a better receiver after he blew out his knee and learned to be a better all around receiver. DHB could be a great receiver and I hope he learns how to catch the darn ball. I think they may use him as a decoy a lot.
Malcolm Barnwell…wow…when was the last time anyone mentioned that name? 1980’s…probably. Was he on that last SB team?
June 24th, 2009 at 5:55 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S. MARC WISON-2-MALCOM BARNWELL, THOSE WERE THE DAY’S..
June 24th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Morning kids! So we usually have the chat this week post, but nothing.
I wonder if this is the last post for the next few weeks or if something happens….
Jerry, whadup??
June 24th, 2009 at 6:15 am
good morning Dirt Lot, Hwnrdr, 405, 4eva …
June 24th, 2009 at 6:18 am
OMG…BSJ did a good mock commercial yesterday morning…this was funny:
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:16 am
Got a problem defending the runs?
Are you losing the battle at the ring of scrimmage?
Is your gap disciplined? Got holes that aren’t being plugged?
You need Turdell Bismol. Reach the Bowl with confidence
June 24th, 2009 at 6:19 am
Good Morning Rockstar, Dirt Lot, 4eva, 405, NMF…
June 24th, 2009 at 6:19 am
ROCKSTAR,GOOD DAY.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:23 am
the mod really cleaned up this place. deleted over half the posts from yesterday!
hard to know the context reading last night’s comments
some of the “would be” responses now just look like ignorant rants. LOL
June 24th, 2009 at 6:28 am
We drafted him (Huff) to be a playmaker… A game changer and never got any of that out of him. Not saying he cant because he has the measurables, it just hasnt gotten to the field yet. Can I get a stripped ball on special teams or something like that? anything and I’ll be on the Huff wagon too. I just want to win, and we need a guy that can force some turnovers IMO as a FS or SS….
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AZ: good points. Agreed, this is his year. It’s sink or swim imo
June 24th, 2009 at 6:29 am
I agree Rockstar,
it looks like that KK and priest were ranting on an on about Tim Brown, but some doesn’t make sense.
Oh well…
June 24th, 2009 at 6:32 am
so AM crew …
who is your favorite player on the CURRENT oakland raiders team and why ???
June 24th, 2009 at 6:33 am
All I dream of is a playmaking Safety, Rod Woodson as an old-man would still make game changing plays please let mitchell or branch be that be that playmaker we need so bad at safety. And don’t tell me a safety can’t be a playmaker Polamalu,Reed,Sanders!
June 24th, 2009 at 6:35 am
GM all, and thanks Hwnrdr for post 614.
I can’t believe Priest was comparing Tim Brown to DHB. I do know that Timmy heard Al doesn’t like black players from Maryland following the Lamont Jordan thing. Only in it for the $$$ and always injured.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:36 am
-Cut Huff, and let’s save some cap space to sign the new rookies.
-too much money to sit on the bench. If Boyd or Davis play better than him ( and they will IMHO) , he will be cut.
-Shadowing TEs doesn’t count. TH can do that IMHO!
-he can’t make plays!!
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sheesh 4eva… and you said I was overzealous! Raider O just BLASTED Michael Huff after I left yesterday
June 24th, 2009 at 6:37 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 6:32 am
so AM crew …
who is your favorite player on the CURRENT oakland raiders team and why ???
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Duh, Danny Southwick?! I’d have my black Southwick jersey by now if there weren’t a backlog from all the orders…
June 24th, 2009 at 6:37 am
good morning BSJ, NMF …
June 24th, 2009 at 6:38 am
Duh, Danny Southwick?!
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BSJ: I’m waiting for somebody to say LB Frantz Joseph (seriously…)
LOL
June 24th, 2009 at 6:43 am
I have no real current fave on the roster, but I agree with NMF that I hope Mitchell will be that hard hitting safety that we need. Someone that will be smart in making plays, too. Remember what Polomalu did to a certain Raven’s QB on 4th and inches…jumped over the line and stopped his forward progress…
June 24th, 2009 at 6:47 am
well RR,of course we could all say Nnamdi because he is who he is but…Man I’m really hoping Dmac blows it up this year.Marcus the 2nd maybe or Napolean Kaufman the 2nd.Has the speed of Kaufman,almost,and the recieving skills of Marcus.I havent bought a jersey sinse I got Lester #37 and I think my cheap azz will purchase a #20 this year!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 6:49 am
or maybe Thomas Frikkin Howard he is awesome 2
June 24th, 2009 at 6:49 am
and I just cant 4get Chaz
June 24th, 2009 at 6:50 am
And now Jmac wants 2 stand up and be da MAN.Maybe a #2 jersey too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 6:52 am
maybe I should just get ALL the jerseys
June 24th, 2009 at 6:52 am
My favorite current Raiders players is TE Zach Miller.
If I had to choose a 2nd fave it’d be P Shane Lechler.
also like Asomugha, CJ, Morrison, Howard, Neal & Gallery (but I wouldn’t consider these guys “favorites”)
big names like Russell, McFadden, Bush, Heyward-Bey, Schilens, Mitchell, Branch, Scott, etc. have a ton of potential, but have yet to blow it up in the NFL yet. I expect great things to come from this group
June 24th, 2009 at 6:53 am
cool 4eva. thanks for sharing bro
June 24th, 2009 at 6:56 am
yes Hwnrdr,Barnwell was on the S/B team
June 24th, 2009 at 6:57 am
=)
June 24th, 2009 at 7:00 am
MALCOM BARNWELL EVENTUALY WOUND UP WITH THE REDSKIN’S IF I REMEMBER..
June 24th, 2009 at 7:03 am
Anybody else concerned about the Rivers to Gates connection on Week 1 – MNF?
Tyvon Branch: played in 8 games, no starts, finished on IR
Mike Mitchell: rookie reach. Kiper & McShay had him undrafted. hamstring injury
Maybe i’m not drinking enough Kool-Aid? where’s OAKlifer? “we need some more. the well has run dry!”
June 24th, 2009 at 7:06 am
Branch was a rookie 4th round pick last year who finished the season with 10 tackles and 1 Interception and Raider fans are not only expecting him to start, but take the league by storm …
yet i’m delusional for thinking Huff deserves another shot?
June 24th, 2009 at 7:09 am
Morning Nation!!!
who is your favorite player on the CURRENT oakland raiders team and why ???
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Zach Miller
JLH
Mike Bush
I feel that these three guys give us really good chance of winning and I would say it’s a toss up at the number one spot between JLH and Miller with mike bush a very close second this guy can striaght wear out defenses in the first two quarters then let D-mac run free in the 3 and 4th!!!
FUNNY SHIZZZ BREAKING NEWS THIS IS HEREDITARY!!!!!!(SP)
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4281660
LMAO not to make light of it but it explains hell of alot!!! maybe he thought Al was saying 4-3 the whole time or wait 3-4 wait 34…no 43…bear!zone man gap!!!! ALLL all the pressure!!!!!LMAO!!!! p.s. sorry rex
June 24th, 2009 at 7:12 am
THE NEXT ROUND IS ON ME!!!!!
PLAYOFF BOUND!!!!!
Our safties will shut down Gates!!
Our D-line and Lb’s will shut down the combo sproles and LT!!!
phillip will throw 2 picks!!!!
mmmm…..KOOL-AID!!!!
PLAYOFF BOUND!!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 7:18 am
well RR,of course we could all say Nnamdi because he is who he is
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I concure he’s the man it goes with out saying!! Mr. Asomugha if you see this Take A Bow your the going to go down as one of the all time Raider greats which is a nice list to keep the company of….just promise me one thing when your a “legend” out there hitting the links with Stabler, The Stork, Atkinson and the rest watch out for Bobby he likes to wander the fence line and randomly passes out…just FYI
June 24th, 2009 at 7:25 am
Oh Yeah JLH 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how could I 4get him???
June 24th, 2009 at 7:26 am
somebody needs 2 make-up my mind please
June 24th, 2009 at 7:26 am
mmmm…..KOOL-AID!!!!
PLAYOFF BOUND!!!!!
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Tommy Kelly – Pro Bowl
Ricky Brown – comeback player of the year
ahhh!!! thanks OAKlifer. missed you brother
thanks for fixing the Kool-Aid fountain
June 24th, 2009 at 7:27 am
watch out for Bobby he likes to wander the fence line and randomly passes out…just FYI
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LOL. look out for the creepy h0m0 janitor as well!
June 24th, 2009 at 7:37 am
ahh nothin like the first fix of thew day…KOLL-AID tht is! Tommy kelly to the prow bowl!!! Thats a strong mix…I see him finna pick up a 20 piece @ Wing Stop mmmm lemon pepper wings!!!!! saw we had a “troll” or two in here yester day it’s cool reimforcing the fact we have fans followers so to speak he loves us!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 7:38 am
my prediction if Kelly makes the probowl so will a LB most likely Morrison….and our run defense will be in the top 15!!!!!!
another cup please!!!! hold the ice extra wins PLAYOFFS HEAR WE COME!!!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 7:45 am
well I gotta go fix my brakes.Have a nice day NATION!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 7:45 am
If we beat the Chargers on Monday night, a big gorilla will be off our backs (and no, not Rilla…lol). Kool Aid will be all over the colliseum!
June 24th, 2009 at 7:47 am
Just thought I would share a forward I received today.
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They Walk Among Us!
NEW YORK – resident Kathy Evans brought humiliation to her friends and family
when she set a new standard for stupidity with her appearance
on the popular TV show, ‘Who Wants To Be A Millionaire.’
Evans, a 32-year-old wife and mother of two, got stuck on the first question
and proceeded to make what fans of the show are dubbing ‘the absolute worst use
of lifelines ever.’ After being introduced to the show’s host
Meredith Vieira, Evans was posed with a typically easy initial $100 question.
The question was: ‘Which of the following is the largest?’
A) A Peanut
B) An Elephant
C) The Moon
D) Hey, who you calling large?
Immediately Mrs. Evans was struck with an all consuming panic as she did not
readily know the answer. ‘Hmm, oh boy, that’s a toughie,’ said Evans,
as Vieira did her level best to hide her disbelief.
‘I mean, I’m sure I’ve heard of some of these things before,
but I have no idea how large they would be.’
Evans made the decision to use the first of her three lifelines, the 50/50.
Answers A and D were removed, leaving her to decide which was
bigger, an elephant or the moon. However, faced with an incredibly
easy question, Evans still remained unsure.
‘Oh! It removed the two I was leaning towards!’ exclaimed Evans.
‘Darn. I think I better phone a friend.’
Mrs. Evans asked to be connected with her friend
Betsy, who is an office assistant.
‘Hi Betsy! How are you? This is Kathy! I’m on TV!’ said Evans,
wasting the first seven seconds of her call.
‘Ok, I got an important question. Which of the following is the largest?
B, an elephant, or C, the moon. 15 seconds hun.’
Betsy quickly replied that the answer was C, the moon.
Evans proceeded to argue with her friend for the remaining ten seconds.
‘Betsy, are you sure?’ said Evans. ‘How sure are you? Duh, that can’t be it.’
To everyone’s astonishment, the moronic Evans declined to take her friend’s
advice. ‘I just don’t know if I can trust Betsy. She’s not all that bright.
So I think I’d like to ask the audience,’ said Evans.
Asked to vote on the correct answer, the audience returned 98% in favor of
answer C, ‘The Moon.’ Having used up all her lifelines,
Evans then made the dumbest choice of her life.
‘Wow, seems like everybody is against what I’m thinking,’ said the
too-stupid-to-live Evans. ‘But you know, sometimes you just got to go with
your gut. So, let’s see… I’m going to have to go with B, an elephant. Final answer.’
Evans sat before the dumbfounded audience, the only one waiting with bated breath -
and was told that she was wrong, and that the answer was in fact, C, ‘The Moon.’
Caution…they walk among us!
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They Walk Among Us!
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Some guy bought a new fridge for his house.
To get rid of his old fridge, he put it in his front yard and hung a
sign on it saying: ‘Free to good home. You want it, you take it.’
For three days the fridge sat there without anyone looking twice.
He eventually decided that people were too mistrustful of this deal.
So he changed the sign to read: ‘Fridge for sale $50.’
The next day someone stole it!
They walk amongst us!
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*One day I was walking down the beach with
some friends when someone shouted….
‘Look at that dead bird!’
Someone looked up at the sky and said…’where?’
They walk among us!—————————————————————————–
While looking at a house, my brother asked the
real estate agent which direction was north because
he didn’t want the sun waking him up every morning.
She asked, ‘Does the sun rise in the north?’
My brother explained that the sun rises in the east
and has for sometime. She shook her head and said,
‘Oh, I don’t keep up with all that stuff…’
They Walk Among Us!
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My colleague and I were eating our lunch in our cafeteria,
when we overheard an admin girl talking about the
sunburn she got on her weekend drive to the beach.
She drove down in a convertible, but said
she ‘didn’t think she’d get sunburned
because the car was moving’.
They Walk Among Us!
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My sister has a lifesaving tool in her car
which is designed to cut through a seat belt
if she gets trapped. She keeps it in the car boot.
They Walk Among Us!
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I was hanging out with a friend when we saw a woman
with a nose ring attached to an earring by a chain.
My friend said, ‘Ouch! The chain must rip
out every time she turns her head!”
I had to explain that a person’s nose and ear
remain the same distance apart no
matter which way the head is turned…
They Walk Among Us !
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I couldn’t find my luggage at the airport baggage area and.
went to the lost luggage office and reported the loss.
The woman there smiled and told me not to worry
because she was a trained professional and
said I was in good hands. ‘Now,’ she asked me,
‘Has your plane arrived yet?’…
(I work with professionals like this.)
They Walk Among Us!
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While working at a pizza parlour I observed a man
ordering a small pizza to go. He appeared to be alone and
the cook asked him if he would like it cut
into 4 pieces or 6. He thought about it for some time
then said ‘Just cut it into 4 pieces; I don’t think I’m hungry
enough to eat 6 pieces.
They Walk Among Us!
And last, but not least:
Dumb as a box of Rocks
A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE KIND OF REPRESENTATION WE HAVE IN CONGRESS,TRUE STORY:
A noted psychiatrist was a guest speaker at an academic function where Nancy Pelosi happened to appear. Ms Pelosi took the opportunity to schmooze the good doctor a bit and asked him a question with which he was most at ease.
‘Would you mind telling me, Doctor,’ she asked, ‘how you detect a mental deficiency in somebody who appears completely normal?’
‘Nothing is easier,’ he replied. ‘You ask a simple question which anyone should answer with no trouble. If the person hesitates, that puts you on the track.’
‘What sort of question?’ asked Pelosi.
Well, you might ask, ‘Captain Cookmade three trips around the world and died during one of them. Which one?”
Pelosi thought a moment, and then said with a nervous laugh, ‘You wouldn’t happen to have another example would you? I must confess I don’t know much about history.’
June 24th, 2009 at 7:48 am
The last one was the best…
June 24th, 2009 at 7:49 am
# KoolKell Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:35 pm
42 catches, 600 yds, 5 TD’S ?
He was average against college competition.
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It’s not just a matter of statistics. I thought I went over this. Who was throwing DHB the rock?? I don’t think it was Joe Willie Namath.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:57 am
Pelosi is actually quite bright, but I could easily see Boehner blowing that question Dakota. So would Bush, who ACTUALLY said many voters misunderestimate him.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:00 am
Dakota,
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
I must confess I don’t know much about history.’
LMFAO!!!!!!LOL
June 24th, 2009 at 8:00 am
I love how OAKlifer waterboards us all with Kool-Aid each morning…
June 24th, 2009 at 8:06 am
Question for those in love with Mitchell…
If he puts a big hit in each game, but tackles like Stuart, does he quickly get railed or a free pass because he can hit… unlike stu – haha
June 24th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Until the Front 7 start doing their job in slowing down the opposing running back….it won’t matter who’s playing safety…whether its Branch, Mitchell, Huff, Eugene or anyone.
Gibril Wilson had over 100 tackles last year…100 for a safety…that’s ridiculous.
The Raiders have had the worst front 7 in the NFL for quite a while. I think that’s why everyone is excited for Marshall. He’s hopefully going to fix this MESS.
Don’t you guys notice that every big hit usually requires the hitter to run at a pretty good rate of speed? Usually the person being hit hasn’t generated a full head of steam either.
The Raiders Front 7 has to at least get in the way if Mitchell is going to drop these bombs.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Notice in my last post that I didn’t ask the Front 7 to stop the run.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:15 am
I love how OAKlifer waterboards us all with Kool-Aid each morning…
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LOL. me too
punch drunk love
June 24th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Mitchell hits likes Stu?
what a bunch of pelosi!
June 24th, 2009 at 8:16 am
BSJ, Thanks Brother If we believe it will come…and this to shall pass jus ask 4eva the shadow knows, when the KOOL-AID is a flowin the Donks and dichargers betta not be a goin!!! To OAKTOWN THAT IS!!!!!!!!
If he puts a big hit in each game, but tackles like Stuart, does he quickly get railed or a free pass because he can hit… unlike stu – haha
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No, not at all NO MORE SCHOLARSHIPS!!! If he wants to whiff to be ahuman missle let him do it else where we need sure tackling to go along with those ballhawk skills…even mike huff can tackel!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 8:18 am
If we beat the Chargers on Monday night, a big gorilla will be off our backs (and no, not Rilla…lol). Kool Aid will be all over the colliseum!
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If we see a silver & black Kool-Aid man in the stands we’ll know who it is… OAKlifer!
he’ll be shouting shouting like Macho Man Randy Savage “ooohhh yeeeeaaah”
June 24th, 2009 at 8:19 am
In general, big hitters tend to whiff on more tackles than others but they also cause a lot of WRs to go down quick (ala Tim Brown). It usually evens out. Ronnie Lott could be juked, but God help you later when he zeroes in and…BAM!
For our defense, a hard hitter is more needed than player who always plays safe because our line overpursues and leaves our safeties a lot of chances to lay the wood on cutbacks.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:20 am
when the KOOL-AID is a flowin, the Donks and dichargers betta get goin!!!
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LOL
Nice.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:21 am
SnB Defense Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Notice in my last post that I didn’t ask the Front 7 to stop the run.
LOL!!!! genious
thanks Double R, you guys know I try’d to “waterboard” one time but I think I was too “punch drunk”
June 24th, 2009 at 8:21 am
CYA all in a few hrs…errands on a day off.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:22 am
For our defense, a hard hitter is more needed than player who always plays safe because our line overpursues and leaves our safeties a lot of chances to lay the wood on cutbacks.
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In other words, the safeties get exposed because our front 7 can’t get the job done
June 24th, 2009 at 8:23 am
If we see a silver & black Kool-Aid man in the stands we’ll know who it is…
If any one steals this it’s on I already have my lawyer “Dakota” working on the trademark rights!!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 8:29 am
later BSJ!!!!!!!! gotta gind man we know!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Until the Front 7 start doing their job in slowing down the opposing running back….it won’t matter who’s playing safety…whether its Branch, Mitchell, Huff, Eugene or anyone.
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Agreed. In the Rob Ryan defense Branch & Mitchell = Schweigert & Gibson. Let’s hope John Marshall is a big upgrade at Def. Coordinator!
June 24th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Rockstar,
That’s what it kind of comes down to doesn’t it. Its all on John Marshall to fix this mess.
In my humble opinion….he gets at least 2 years to fix this. I think there is more work to be done than many realize.
I hope to all hell that I am wrong and that Marshall can fix this defense with immediate results
June 24th, 2009 at 8:45 am
Raiders’ first-round pick confident
Do I have to stage an intervention here?
I might have no choice with this kid, Darrius Heyward-Bey. The Oakland Raiders rookie wideout is under all kinds of pressure after being the upset pick of the 2009 NFL draft, the seventh selection overall, ahead of the Hands-Down Best Receiver, Michael Crabtree.
Worse, the friendly, humble, funny, 6-foot-2, 206-pounder is dangerously in denial.
So, Darrius, what’s it like having your career buried by fans, writers and ESPN analysts Cris Carter and Todd McShay before your first snap?
“It’s been fine,” the former Maryland star said. “The coaching staff told me that I was the pick they wanted. They said I fit best in our offense.”
How have you handled the pressure?
“Same way I always have,” he said. “As long as I come here and work hard, that’s all I can do. I don’t think the fans know what I can do. I don’t think anyone here woke up early to watch Maryland games last year.”
How have your new teammates — maybe privately questioning your selection — treated you?
“Great,” he said. “Everyone’s treated me like a normal teammate. I forget that I was the seventh pick.”
He’ll remember soon enough. Every few years, a team picks a player that the public hates. Think Mario Williams instead of Reggie Bush and Vince Young. Or Donovan McNabb over Ricky Williams. Or Joe Mauer, not Mark Prior.
This year’s guy is Heyward-Bey. Oakland picked him despite the presence of Texas Tech’s Crabtree and Missouri’s Jeremy Maclin on the board, and despite puny comparative numbers (15 career touchdowns to Crabtree’s 41 and Maclin’s 33).
He has puny comparative everything, really, except speed: Heyward-Bey ran a combine-best 4.3 40-yard dash.
Speed is seductive and addictive to Raiders owner Al Davis. He couldn’t resist. And the pick was widely ripped — Carter did not mince words moments after the pick on April 25 (see video above).
The former NFL standout stands by his opinion of the rookie.
“Nobody in the football world except the Raiders thought he was the best receiver,” Carter says now.
“To me, the pick does not make sense. He was honorable mention All-ACC [Atlantic Coast Conference]. So he disappeared in ACC games. So if you don’t think he’s a franchise receiver, going to make the Pro Bowl five or six times, you don’t take him that high.”
Heyward-Bey’s answer to his critics? In his first Raiders’ minicamp, he had three consecutive drops and a pulled hamstring.
This week, he aggravated the hamstring while running an out pattern and was forced to leave practice. And yet he’s … relatively happy?
“The second I got drafted, seeing the smile on my mom’s face, it was a dream come true,” he said. “I love being at practice, grinding it out with the guys.”
Does he read and watch what’s being said about him?
“I don’t,” he said.
Maybe he’s onto something. The best thing about having your career declared dead before it’s lived is the chance to prove everybody wrong.
Nobody can accurately judge at this point. Everyone in Houston hated the Williams pick. Folks said the former North Carolina State star disappeared in ACC games, too. Remember, he handled the pressure by ignoring it.
Four years later, he’s more dependable than Bush or Young. Far better, too.
It takes years to judge a pick, not an offseason workout.
Heyward-Bey was dejected during his first minicamp, but nothing else has fazed him. That’s no surprise from someone who many thought couldn’t translate a stellar track career at the McDonogh School (Owings Mills, Md.) into college ball. Heyward-Bey never moaned when the Terps’ coaches couldn’t find ways to shake him free of double-teams.
“I’ve been dealing with stuff like this my whole life,” he said.
Heyward-Bey’s situation in Oakland isn’t perfect. The team hasn’t won more than five games in a season since 2002. Five different head coaches have walked the sideline during that span. But expectations are impossibly low. I mean, Johnnie Lee Higgins led Oakland’s receivers in catches last season with 22. Across the Bay, Crabtree is already anointed a game-changer on a San Francisco 49ers offense starved for one. But Crabtree won’t practice and improve every day against a Pro Bowler like Oakland cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha.
Niners quarterbacks Shaun Hill and Alex Smith don’t seem better than Oakland counterpart JaMarcus Russell.
And Oakland has explosive young talent in RBs Darren McFadden and Michael Bush, whom Heyward-Bey can help, having learned to block in Maryland’s run-first offense.
Niners coach Mike Singletary recently claimed he almost made Crabtree cry when the rookie ran with a broken foot before the doctors cleared him. Raiders coach Tom Cable calls Heyward-Bey “a brilliant young man” who will “handle every hurdle quickly.”
He’d better. Patience is short with first-rounders.
And he won’t get much sympathy from his teammates, who have already passed on the rookie’s longtime nicknames — “DHB” or “Hey-Bey” — and anointed him “Big Money,” knowing that he’ll get at least $10 million guaranteed.
Time will tell whether that’s money well-spent.
-Seth Wickersham (ESPN)
June 24th, 2009 at 8:51 am
he gets at least 2 years to fix this. I think there is more work to be done than many realize.
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S&B: couldn’t agree more. Year 1 of a coach’s tenure is to implement his system/schemes and find out what players fit that model the best and are able to produce the best results. So year 1 (this year) he’ll use to evaluate the current defensive talent on the roster. He’ll keep and promote the players he likes and the players who excel under him. Those who can’t get the job done will take a freefall down the depth chart or get axed next season in what looks to be an uncapped year. Then he’ll get to replace them with “his guys” as long as Al Davis gives the thumbs up.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Nothing earth shattering but if you want a little more insight on DHB listen to the interview with his college coach on KNBR.com.
This kid may not set the world on fire in his rookie year but I’m telling you he is as good a kid as was Timmy Brown and has the potential to be a better WR. The systems he played in at Maryland are prostyle offenses and that lays a great foundation for a kid because they are used to the route tree and understand the framework of a pro offense. Now it’s just getting used to the opposition or DB’s in the league.
I’ve heard rumors of Jerry Rice potentially helping the kid out and we’ll see how this session goes with Russell pre-training camp.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Then he’ll get to replace them with “his guys” as long as Al Davis gives the thumbs up.
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Better get Marshall the latest 40 times for all prospects and an Excel spreadsheet. Also will need someone to tutor him on using the Sort “Ascending” option
June 24th, 2009 at 8:54 am
couldn’t agree more. Year 1 of a coach’s tenure is to implement his system/schemes and find out what players fit that model the best and are able to produce the best results.
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WHAT?!?!!? you dont think rthis could have been our problem all along do you????? changing coaches and systems every year isnt good?!?!?!? WTF????
June 24th, 2009 at 8:56 am
lol
(post 677 smart azz sarcastic voice) (sounds alot like ‘lil john)
June 24th, 2009 at 9:01 am
This team hasn’t had a QB worth talking about in at least 3 years, I think that might have a little to do with the record along with the defense.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:06 am
priesttj Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 9:01 am
This team hasn’t had a QB worth talking about in at least 3 years, I think that might have a little to do with the record along with the defense.
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hmmm funny we always talk About THE FOUNDATION J-russ…just so you know brother crow has a lot of bones and is reaLLLL greeezy kinda greenish gamey tastin meat you should exclude it from yo diet!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Better get Marshall the latest 40 times for all prospects and an Excel spreadsheet. Also will need someone to tutor him on using the Sort “Ascending” option
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LOL! true enough …
June 24th, 2009 at 9:09 am
priesttj Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 9:01 am
This team hasn’t had a QB worth talking about in at least 3 years, I think that might have a little to do with the record along with the defense.
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There were a few games where the offense kept the defense on the field too long. But there were too many games for my comfort level where the defense either:
1. Got rolled over from the very start of the game
2. Melted in the 4th QTR with the game on the line
Defenses are usually ahead of an offense. This defense had too much veteran talent (3+yrs) to play as poorly as it did.
I think there are more problems to be solved besides scheme and playcalling.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:12 am
WHAT?!?!!? you dont think rthis could have been our problem all along do you????? changing coaches and systems every year isnt good?!?!?!?
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not only was changing coaches & systems too frequently stunting the growth of the players, but it was the HC’s that Al chose to run the show…
Bill Callahan, Norv Turner, Art Shell, Lane Kiffin, etc.
Really? those are the best candidates we could find?
Let’s hope Tom Cable doesn’t end up on that list!
maybe he’s a diamond in the rough?
June 24th, 2009 at 9:15 am
What’s up Nation.
Dakota,
LMAO @ 651
June 24th, 2009 at 9:16 am
SnB, we shall see. No one in here that I can think of was happy with the DHB pick especially ME. But when I see reason and research the kid and see the film and hear him speak I see why they did it. Not that I totally agree but I can understand it and move from my….oh my gog they picked this WR, why didn’t they get the player that I wanted? crap!
DHB is a good system fit………period. Maybe even great we’ll see…
June 24th, 2009 at 9:16 am
WHAT?!?!!? you dont think rthis could have been our problem all along do you????? changing coaches and systems every year isnt good?!?!?!?
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Yet Al Davis kept Rob Ryan throughout all those coaching changes. Kept him until his contract ran out. Kept him when a lot of people were screaming for his dismissal.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:16 am
maybe he’s a diamond in the rough?
AMEN BROTHER!!!!
mmm DIAMOND KOOL-AID!!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 9:18 am
win or lose… I think Al Davis should give Cable, Tollner, Hackett, Marshall, Board, Haluchek and Fassel 3 FULL seasons (2009, 2010 & 2011) to prove they can build a competitive football team. set the bar low.
Minimum amount of acceptable wins to keep their jobs:
2009: 5
2010: 8
2011: 10
June 24th, 2009 at 9:18 am
RR,
You are always talking about me when I’m not here, that shows that you care!!! I like you too! lol
June 24th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Mornin O,
How you livin bruh???
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Rob Ryan is Dyslexic see post 640 it runs in the fam!!!
P.S. sorry Rex
June 24th, 2009 at 9:19 am
forget coffee in the morning.
OAKlifer brings the Kool-Aid to wake us up!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 9:21 am
priesttj Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 9:16 am
SnB, we shall see. No one in here that I can think of was happy with the DHB pick especially ME. But when I see reason and research the kid and see the film and hear him speak I see why they did it. Not that I totally agree but I can understand it and move from my….oh my gog they picked this WR, why didn’t they get the player that I wanted? crap!
DHB is a good system fit………period. Maybe even great we’ll see…
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All I am saying is not to put too much on this kid. Few receivers come into the league like gang-busters. Plus, Chaz Schilens and Johnnie Lee Higgins are going to prove to be competent receivers this year.
Just don’t hype him up too much. The Raiders have a some weapons on offense (Miller, Schilens, JLH, DMAC & Bush out of the backfield and Walker at 100%
Also, the Raiders don’t usually play rookies too much. So if DHB’s numbers are low, people shouldn’t fly off the handle.
I think some are expecting more from him this year than he will deliver
June 24th, 2009 at 9:22 am
2009: 5
we need to not lower the bar sooo much we need to improve on the win total last year IMHO!! But make no mistake we are more competitve then ever this year should get us an extra 2-3 wins alone think of those 4th quater meltdowns SnB was talkin bout!! we could have won 8 last year hell!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 9:27 am
You are always talking about me when I’m not here
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Raider O:
I just noticed that right after I left last night you posted like 5 or 6 comments to completely trash Mike Huff – which is your right as a Raiders fan. I understand that. just thought it was funny.
Please see post #’s 638/639/668/671 this morning and 474 that I posted yesterday. 5 posts right back at ya!
Let me know your thoughts on them.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:28 am
All I’m saying is I see why they did it, no hype there. I have no idea what he’ll do his rookie year we’ll have to wait and see. But people in here complain loudly about his stats and I guess rightly so. But when you look behind the stats you see a very different picture.
That’s why I compared him to Tim Brown and people forget we got roasted for drafted Timmy as well because he was called a special teams player. He was very raw as a WR and into his 3rd year they were calling him a BUST. That’s when Art Shell stepped to him and essentially blasted his work ethic. Telling him he needed to work harder at becoming the player he was capable of becoming.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:28 am
Maybe 4 wins Buff – Mia -KC -SD
June 24th, 2009 at 9:32 am
S&B: regarding Mike Mitchell
All I am saying is not to put too much on this kid. Few db’s come into the league like gang-busters. Plus, Tyvon Branch and Michael Huff are going to prove to be competent safeties this year.
Just don’t hype him up too much. The Raiders have a some weapons on defense (Ellis, Morrison, Howard, Asomugha, CJ and Kelly at 100%
Also, the Raiders don’t usually play rookies too much. So if Mitchell’s numbers are low, people shouldn’t fly off the handle.
I think some are expecting more from him this year than he will deliver
June 24th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Priesttj,
As for the DHB pick. I understand the logic of drafting him….don’t agree with it, but I understand it. I thought there were bigger problems on the lines. Anyway, DHB was going to be a 1st round draft pick, so the kid has talent and was rated no worst than the 3rd best guy. Then you add system fit and you can easily see why the Raiders took him.
From an outsiders perspective, I didn’t like the pick because I felt he could have been taken later in the 1st round. Of course that assumes that there was a team willing to trade for the pick. However, Cable said they were nervous as to whether DHB would fall to them at 7.
So let’s wait and see what the kid can do.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:34 am
LAKERS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Work sucks.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:36 am
We should’ve won 8 games easily but the front office crap and infighting was more a problem than we all want to admit. Kiffin was not leading this team and when cable took over it took too long to get the ship righted. Thus 5 wins instead of maybe even a division championship.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Dakota: Kobe Bryant just opted out of his contract and signed with the Clippers!
your thoughts?
June 24th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Not to mention a much better season for the QB.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Rockstar,
Mitchell vs DHB…here’s the problem you are not accepting:
Tom Cable and Al Davis like Chaz Schilens and JLH….so there won’t be any reservations about starting them.
Tom Cable and Al Davis don’t like the play of Michael Huff…so Mitchell will get the opportunity…plus Cable raves about Eugene’s leadership.
And Michael Huff was working as a Strong Safety in OTAs. I don’t think Michael Huff brings the physicality that Mithcell or Branch bring.
But that’s what training camp is for…to sort out questions like these.
Just don’t fly off the handle if Huff is a reserve…or cut outright…
And like you, I actually believe Huff has talent to be unleashed….will the Raider coaches get that talent out of him..
June 24th, 2009 at 9:40 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Dakota: Kobe Bryant just opted out of his contract and signed with the Clippers!
your thoughts?
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Okay, now we can sign Labron James.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Lebron….
June 24th, 2009 at 9:42 am
priesttj Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 9:36 am
We should’ve won 8 games easily but the front office crap and infighting was more a problem than we all want to admit. Kiffin was not leading this team and when cable took over it took too long to get the ship righted. Thus 5 wins instead of maybe even a division championship.
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Agreed. Also, the Raiders were slow getting some of the younger players on the field. Of course, that too was a result of some of the infighting.
I think if some of the young players played from the start…the Raiders grab an extra couple of wins….I really would have liked to see Scott in the 4th QTR of that 1st Charger and Bills games.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:43 am
I heard a rumor 2;
Johnny Cash and Keith Richard are Al Davis’s love children
June 24th, 2009 at 9:46 am
priest: we could have won 8 games even WITH all the dysfunction last year … it’s simple
-play DMC & Bush more and Fargas less
-Henderson instead of Harris
-Higgins & Schilens instead of Curry & Lelie
-Lawton at FB (leave Bush alone!)
-minus Cable’s fake FG attempt vs. the Chiefs
-Joseph instead of Wakefield at DT
June 24th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Stability…Stability…..Stability..In the coaching staff is the key to the succsess of this young team.Without it we will never right the ship.IMO that why every year we “look good on paper ” just no consistancy in coaching or system…We need to hold on to the staff for atleast 3 years like rr said
June 24th, 2009 at 9:48 am
LMAO!!!!!
this could be true he’s rumored to be like 115 which would make him as they say Old enought o be you daddy” or in this case Keith “smokin” Richards and Johnny “MIB” Cashs’.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:50 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 9:46 am
priest: we could have won 8 games even WITH all the dysfunction last year … it’s simple
-play DMC & Bush more and Fargas less
-Henderson instead of Harris
-Higgins & Schilens instead of Curry & Lelie
-Lawton at FB (leave Bush alone!)
-minus Cable’s fake FG attempt vs. the Chiefs
-Joseph instead of Wakefield at DT
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And Al should have fired Kiffin back in February instead of playing things along in order to build his case. Oh, Al still trusted and believed in Lane! bullschyt.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:50 am
priest: we could have won 8 games even WITH all the dysfunction last year … it’s simple
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ALL good points brother!!! Kinda liked the Fake FG tho!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 9:51 am
RR,
474: you may have a point there, fargas over Bush, Harris over Mario, so you may have a point.
638: 1 INT in 10 games, how many does Huff have in 3.5 years?????
639: we shouldn’t talk about him as a PBer, but we have high hopes, and OAK keeps giving us KookAide.
668 & 671: I’m going to wait and see what Marshall can do with the D,but I’m done with Huff.
Please no more hunting for posts!!
June 24th, 2009 at 9:54 am
RR,
Use copy and paste next time. Please! lol
June 24th, 2009 at 9:56 am
RR,
I like Frantz, he’s my fav Raider!
June 24th, 2009 at 9:57 am
RRS,, maybe this is difficult for you to fathom but DMC was injured last year. Everyone and I mean everyone in the organization wanted to play him MORE not just the fans.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:58 am
O,
Can you search for march 22 post 343 april 03 psot 26 and june 24 post 640!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Cops-what you boys hunting 4???
Raider O-I’m hunting posts officer
Cops-post’s whats a post boy???
Raider O-their just things RaiderRockstar wants me 2C
Cops-who is RaiderRockstar???
Raider O-I dont know
Cops-let me get this straight,you out here hunting something called a post because someone you dont know asked you 2???
Raider O -yes sir
Cops-well we dont have no posts ’round here,not good ones anyway
Raider O- yes sir I wont ever do it again
Cops- very well carry on then
June 24th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Please no more hunting for posts!!
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LOL. you went hunting for one this morning…
just wanted you to be “informed”
and for the record, Huff has made more plays in his first 3 years than Asomugha did in his first 3 (look up the stats – i’ve posted them here before months ago). what would have happened if we gave up on Nnamdi? the best shutdown corner in the league would be wearing different colors on Sundays …
June 24th, 2009 at 10:00 am
OAK,
You know!!!
LMAO
June 24th, 2009 at 10:03 am
4eva,
LMAO
June 24th, 2009 at 10:03 am
good lookin O thanks bruh,
ya know Double R has a point the only eason I see us givinig up on huffster is $$$$ Uncle Al might get tired of waiting and paying and waiting and paying…..
June 24th, 2009 at 10:04 am
and waiting and paying…well you get the point!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Priesttj Says:
As I said truth be told DHB is a more skilled WR than Tim Brown coming into this league…………period
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Discuss. I gotta run to the barbershop.
BHP this one is going into your file, to be brought forward during the season.
June 24th, 2009 at 10:06 am
RR,
lol
I don’t call that hunting, that was more like tracking!!
June 24th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Only the SHADOW knows O
June 24th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Reminder: Laker talk is approved by Jerry McDonald!
Hey Bo, Jhill, Exla,
What do you guys think of Jackson taking off some of the road games with Rambis taking over his coaching duties?
June 24th, 2009 at 10:08 am
maybe this is difficult for you to fathom but DMC was injured last year. Everyone and I mean everyone in the organization wanted to play him MORE not just the fans.
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so he couldn’t have been used more in the last 6 or 8 games ???
Really?
and you failed to address Bush in the running game…
June 24th, 2009 at 10:12 am
I like Huff, and I was happy with the pick.
But……..
How many chances can you give a player?
Huff is diff than Nnamdi, he started as a rookie!! 1 INT!!! 1 !!!
Doesn’t make plays, and costs a lot!!
I wanted to give him another chance due to the RR years, but he only had 1 pick in 3.5 years as a DB!!! RR or not, that’s sorry!!!!!!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 10:12 am
KK, gettin lined out today????
Timmy was good comin in so is DHB but todays game is different DHB is hampered by his hammy and just plain might not see all the time he wants due to our run 1st offense and our returning WR’s lets not forget When healthy (mentaly&phisicly) Javon could be a threat along with the always explosive JLH (myFAV) and the tall speedster Chaz!! Its going to be hard to judge this first year imho.
June 24th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Huff is the Shadow with no light around!!!!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 10:17 am
the only eason I see us givinig up on huffster is $$$$ Uncle Al might get tired of waiting and paying and waiting and paying…..
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AD would take like a $6 million or more cap hit by flat out cutting Huff – sort of like the Javon Walker contract that was reworked earlier this offseason. It would hurt us more to pitch him than to keep him. I think his salary is less than 1 million this year, then jumps to over 5 million next year. Therefore, I propose that we keep him this year and give him a shot under Marshall. If he doesn’t pan out, cut him next year in an uncapped year.
Are Keith Davis, Darrick Brown or Jerome Boyd really that valuable that we’d be willing to cut Huff and take a HUGE cap hit just to keep one of them on the roster? I think not.
June 24th, 2009 at 10:18 am
I wanted to give him another chance due to the RR years, but he only had 1 pick in 3.5 years as a DB!!! RR or not, that’s sorry!!!!!!!!!
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I think I was just moded on site WOW they fast!!!
as I was saying tho Huff was often misused and chasing down TE’s from behind cause he was in the box or playing som sort of shallow zone trying to reinforce the run cause the front 7 were being manhandled hard to get picks at the LOS or chasing down a TE after he catches the ball imo.
June 24th, 2009 at 10:20 am
I agree lets see what the Marshall Plan holds.Amnesty 4 everyone 4 one year only
June 24th, 2009 at 10:23 am
You say cut him next year in uncapped year.
I like that!!!
But what if Boyd and Davis are better, and that’s my arguement.
I’m not saying just cut Huff, cut him if those 2 are better. We need roster space for LBs and DEs. IMO
June 24th, 2009 at 10:23 am
we are mired in 6 years of frustration,1 more year wont faze me I swear 2 all thats holy it wont,do you hear me I SWEAR IT WONT FAZE ME I SWEAR
June 24th, 2009 at 10:28 am
OAK,
Like you said he often was at the LOS ( 195 pounds lol), and shadowed TEs. But that’s not all be did in 3 years. He had his chances, I remember watching him dropping INTs, and not reading the play well, to slow to react. IMO
June 24th, 2009 at 10:30 am
I swear!!! I don’t care!!! lol
OAK,
Who sings that, do you know? lol
June 24th, 2009 at 10:31 am
RRS,
The coaches liked MBush but they desparately needed him to play a role which he refused to do. MBush should’ve and wouldve played more than anyone perhaps had he been more amicable to their demands.
If you are a coach and you have a dominant talent capable of doing some great things but he is also very selfish it makes it hard to trust him as much as you would like to. MBush could’ve made a tremendous difference on this team last year had he filled that role at FB/HB for the Raiders and we were worse off as a result of it.
June 24th, 2009 at 10:32 am
But what if Boyd and Davis are better, and that’s my arguement.
I’m not saying just cut Huff, cut him if those 2 are better. We need roster space for LBs and DEs. IMO
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ok. that’s fair, but that wasn’t your original arguement. at first you were saying that Huff should be cut because we’re paying him too much money and he hasn’t made any plays in 3 years.
I think the best players should make the roster and the best guys on the roster should start. Like AD says “Just Win Baby” – nothing else matters
June 24th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Raider O Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 10:30 am
I swear!!! I don’t care!!! lol
OAK,
Who sings that, do you know? lol
???? more lyrics please luinch for me homies bback soon
RAIDER ON
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 10:35 am
RR,
No sir, not trying to argue, but that was my original statement! Then I added the fact that he makes too much money just to sit in the bench.
They are my arguements, I should know! lol
Don’t ask me to go read more posts. if you want to argue, copy and paste bro!! Please! lol
June 24th, 2009 at 10:37 am
For the first time ever I wish I could copy and paste.
So KK, how does this work? you file my post and repost them as you are so adept and regurgitate the same comments over them a thousand times.lol hahahaha!
June 24th, 2009 at 10:38 am
OAK,
Like you said he often was at the LOS ( 195 pounds lol), and shadowed TEs. But that’s not all be did in 3 years. He had his chances, I remember watching him dropping INTs, and not reading the play well, to slow to react. IMO
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H*ll yeah he did! I got proof on my DVR! Damn that guy pissed me off many times with dropped picks! …..grumble >;/
June 24th, 2009 at 10:38 am
priest: Luke Lawton played pretty well at FB as the season progressed and he picked up the zbs …
He’s even starting FB in OTA’s right now ahead of Lorenzo Neal.
However, Lawton, Neal or OO … none of them are good at catching passes out of the backfield, which is part of our offense. Unless Bush decides to line up at FB on occasion to fill this role, we might see Marcel Reece make the team for this reason. Justin Griffith did well and his receiving skills will be missed.
June 24th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Priesttj,
The coaches were in their right to ask Bush to play fullback. I also believe that Bush lined up as a fullback. But I can understand why he wasn’t happy about it. He was watching his dream of becoming a starting tailback start to fade away. Why??? Because he was buried behind Fargas and DMAC and rarely got carries. If Bush somehow excelled at FB, which he is not by the way, it probably would have become his permanent positin and ruined his career.
I know that you won’t agree with what I said. But fullbacks rarely get carries, rarely get catches and are really an extra O-Lineman. Takes a different mentality and skillset. I think it was a huge mistake on the coaches part to suggest that. Especially when Luke Lawton performed well in Griffin’s absence.
Lawton was the blocking back for Bush in the Tampa game.
June 24th, 2009 at 10:40 am
AZ & O: how many INT’s did Nnamdi & Gibril drop last year?
June 24th, 2009 at 10:42 am
RR,
Read posts 273, 274, and 275. lol
June 24th, 2009 at 10:43 am
RRS,
You’re right but remember we had to get Lawton for the reason MB refused to play that role. Kiffin begged the guy after OO went down to give us some snaps at the FB position. He wouldn’t do it.
Don’t sleep on Marcel Reece at FB he might be player he is a good reciever and can flat out run. That might be the upset of training camp.
June 24th, 2009 at 10:44 am
exactly. you have no answer
calling a player out for 1 or 2 plays in a 16 game season is just ignorant
think Nnamdi didn’t miss any tackles? what about Howard?
June 24th, 2009 at 10:44 am
BSJ
Just read that your boy Mike Brown signed with the Chiefs. I guess we’ll find out first hand if he has anything left. My guess is that he’ll be injured before we go to KC in week 2. Call it a hunch.
June 24th, 2009 at 10:46 am
”I’ve had success coaching wherever I’ve been. For whatever reason my guys play hard, they don’t quit. I can count games where I felt we didn’t do well and we quit on one hand in all my years in coaching. We’re going to fight like hell, just like the people in Cleveland would want us to.”
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LMFAO….Rob Ryan interview
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June 24th, 2009 at 10:47 am
What up 4eva? Already sippin some daquiri’s?
June 24th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Just read that your boy Mike Brown signed with the Chiefs. I guess we’ll find out first hand if he has anything left. My guess is that he’ll be injured before we go to KC in week 2. Call it a hunch.
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LOL. Maybe Justin Fargas will crash into him and they’ll both land on IR?
June 24th, 2009 at 10:47 am
RR,
I like M Reece, I think we should use him as the Skins did with C Cooley. He was a FB/ TE at 1st, before making the move to TE.
June 24th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Dakota Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Reminder: Laker talk is approved by Jerry McDonald!
Hey Bo, Jhill, Exla,
What do you guys think of Jackson taking off some of the road games with Rambis taking over his coaching duties?”
It would make no difference. We all know who the real coach is anyway. Phil barely gets up to even whistle anymore, his back is tweeked.
June 24th, 2009 at 10:51 am
SnB in this system the FB is not just a blcking back as Oakglenn and I have said many times. He would caught the ball a ton and lined up at HB plenty in short yardage/goal line. It was a rle he would’ve excelled at no question why do you think they asked him?
But make no mistake he would’ve gained a ton of yards running the ball as well. Hell Van Eeghan went to the probowl from our FB position. He would NOT have been some grunt blocking back.
June 24th, 2009 at 10:52 am
What’s up R8?
June 24th, 2009 at 10:52 am
AZ & O: how many INT’s did Nnamdi & Gibril drop last year?
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Wilson = not enough to piss me off
Asomugha = are you serious?
June 24th, 2009 at 10:52 am
If you guys coverd it all ready ….sorry just had a good laugh
June 24th, 2009 at 10:53 am
“But make no mistake he would’ve gained a ton of yards running the ball as well. Hell Van Eeghan went to the probowl from our FB position. He would NOT have been some grunt blocking back.”
Hell, even if it did mean he was a grunt blocking back with the occasional reception or goal line run, at least he would have been on the field instead of watching from the sidelines.
June 24th, 2009 at 10:54 am
What up O…hows it hanging ?
June 24th, 2009 at 10:54 am
SnB Defense Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Until the Front 7 start doing their job in slowing down the opposing running back….it won’t matter who’s playing safety…whether its Branch, Mitchell, Huff, Eugene or anyone.
Gibril Wilson had over 100 tackles last year…100 for a safety…that’s ridiculous.
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Actually it’s not. Because safeties are involved in both the run and passing games, a lot of safeties have 100 tackles or close to it during the course of the year. Yeremiah Bell from Miami and Weddle from SD are two examples. What is a little unusual is Morrison might have been 5th in the league last year in tackles and Wilson was right behind him also in the top 10. What I think that means are two things, we are having a lot of plays run at us because our offense was ineffective and 2ndly our defense could not get off the field on 3rd down enough. In other words, we didn’t play well on either side of the ball, hence the 5-11 record.
June 24th, 2009 at 10:56 am
AZ & RR
759, great answer. Nnamdi didn’t see a lot passes thrown his way, and Gibril had a 100+ tackles but I still thought he didn’t do well in coverage.IMO
June 24th, 2009 at 10:58 am
R8,
It’s hanging well I guess!!! lol
Thank you for asking.
June 24th, 2009 at 10:59 am
RR,
Calm down Rockstar, everyone here want Huff to be as good as you say he is. No one wants to see a player cut. We all want to see our boys succeed, but if a player is not making a difference, why keep ‘em? I think you left yesterday before i posted my comment to your comment yesterday (feel free to back track), but I say we give him this season to MAKE SOME PLAYS, or get rid of him. He has no trade value right now so why not give him one more shot. But the fact still remains, he hasn’t been a difference maker for us, and ALL top 10 picks should be right?
June 24th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Adios sports fans…….
June 24th, 2009 at 11:00 am
R8,
LMAO!!! Correction: LM?O!! I don’t want to give you any more images of me on the Beach.
LM?O
June 24th, 2009 at 11:01 am
One comment as I sign off, Michael Huff needs to give the Raiders a reason to give him another chance in training camp……………..period
June 24th, 2009 at 11:03 am
A real fullback is what we needed to take the running game to successful levels something that hasn’t happen arounf here in several years. That Kiffin offense crao was just that..crap. L.O’Neal is the type of player that this team hasn’t had in many years. Griffin wasn’t a pure fullback. He was more of a h-back type. He ran and blocked with absolutely no power. However, once he was hurt we went to the scrap heap and picked up Luke Lawton. He’s pure garbage. Weak, slow, no power or pop. We could not go into a new season with Luke Lawton as the starting fullback.
June 24th, 2009 at 11:04 am
One comment as I sign off, Michael Huff needs to give the Raiders a reason to give him another chance in training camp……………..period
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Agreed, and with that, i’m gonna grab lunch… check in later.
June 24th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Dont play that side of the field ….LM!AO
June 24th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Well said BHP….The balls in his court
June 24th, 2009 at 11:08 am
R8,
LMAO, Its nice to have you back bro.
June 24th, 2009 at 11:08 am
I say we give him this season to MAKE SOME PLAYS, or get rid of him. He has no trade value right now so why not give him one more shot. But the fact still remains, he hasn’t been a difference maker for us, and ALL top 10 picks should be right?
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fair enough. it’s a deal
June 24th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Huff’s day’s should be numbered with the Raiders, along with several other players, d@mn near half the team. Huff has done little to nothing since being drafted. Either he produces this year, along with several other players or it should cut time. Anything less than 7 wins and this teams needs to be purged of many players.
June 24th, 2009 at 11:13 am
priesttj Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 10:51 am
SnB in this system the FB is not just a blcking back as Oakglenn and I have said many times. He would caught the ball a ton and lined up at HB plenty in short yardage/goal line. It was a rle he would’ve excelled at no question why do you think they asked him?
But make no mistake he would’ve gained a ton of yards running the ball as well. Hell Van Eeghan went to the probowl from our FB position. He would NOT have been some grunt blocking back.
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Justin Griffith averaged about 1.5 catches a game in his career. And he is regarded to have decent hands. Michael Bush was not going to be this weapon out of the backfield at FB.
The Raiders have this annoying penchant of wanting to put players in positions that they rarely if ever played in their careers. I know…Nnamdi Asomugha was a safety in college…but for the most part the Raiders need to try and develop players for the position that they excelled in college.
Just because a man weighs 240lbs…doesn’t make him a fullback.
June 24th, 2009 at 11:13 am
I LOVE LUNCH!!!! 20 pc lemon wings Wing Stop!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Michael Huff needs to give the Raiders a reason to give him another chance in training camp……………..period
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every player does. when a team hasn’t won more than 5 games in 6 seasons there shouldn’t be ANY scholarships awarded!
I don’t care if they are making the vet minimum or they are the highest paid defensive player in the league!
June 24th, 2009 at 11:14 am
I havent seen this mentioned, and havent seen anyone ask Jerry, but as we know, Cable turned down the opportunity for more OTA being a rookie HC.
The question that I have is other teams have mandatory camps, not optional OTAs. I am curious on why we didnt have say the last OTA as mandatory.
Anyone know?
June 24th, 2009 at 11:18 am
re:
Raider O Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 10:30 am
I swear!!! I don’t care!!! lol
OAK,
Who sings that, do you know? lol
???? more lyrics please
June 24th, 2009 at 11:19 am
405: Al Davis doesn’t hold players accountable for anything other than their play on the field during the regular season.
He doesn’t even make them accountable to coaches. That’s why whiney players like Jerry Porter can go straight past the HC and into AD’s office when they have a question, comment or concern.
HC’s in Oakland have no authority.
June 24th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Raider-405 Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 11:14 am
I havent seen this mentioned, and havent seen anyone ask Jerry, but as we know, Cable turned down the opportunity for more OTA being a rookie HC.
The question that I have is other teams have mandatory camps, not optional OTAs. I am curious on why we didnt have say the last OTA as mandatory.
Anyone know?
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I asked about that earlier. They did have the QB School though and that was a good thing.
Perhaps they felt that since he team wasn’t implementing a new defense and the QBs were in the school that an extra camp would not have helped much.
I don’t agree though. A 5-11 team needs all the practice it can get
June 24th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Dakota Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Reminder: Laker talk is approved by Jerry McDonald!
Hey Bo, Jhill, Exla,
What do you guys think of Jackson taking off some of the road games with Rambis taking over his coaching duties?
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Dakota, Why waste the per diem on Rambis, just let Kobe take over like he did in the playoffs. LOL
Seriously, Rambis is the heir apparent and that’s why he turned down coaching offers. Great on the job training. Phil gets to spend more time with Jeannie. Did you notice the absence of Dr. Buss at the award presentation.
June 24th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Rob Ryan says:
For whatever reason my guys play hard, they don’t quit. I can count games where I felt we didn’t do well and we quit on one hand in all my years in coaching.
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that’s because they don’t show up. you have to show up before you can quit!
Ryan’s prevent defense in the 4th quarter pretty much says to the offense “I quit. I’m done fighting and playing hard”
Ask the Chargers & Bills last year if RR’s defenses ever quit!
June 24th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Exla, I don’t like the thought of Rambis as HC…I hope B-Shaw gets the gig after next season. Or coach K.
June 24th, 2009 at 11:26 am
priesttj Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 10:51 am
But make no mistake he would’ve gained a ton of yards running the ball as well. Hell Van Eeghan went to the probowl from our FB position. He would NOT have been some grunt blocking back.
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My biggest concern going into 2009 is if the Raiders can get 3 running backs enough meaningful carries. I don’t see it. A RB like Bush needs 12 to 15 carries to get going…same with Fargas…and DMACs talent demands he gets carries.
It will be interesting to see how the Raiders split the 30 carries a game this year
June 24th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Kurt Rambis fits the lakers like a glove!
Maybe he can convince Gasol to grow a mustache and wear the huge glasses?
June 24th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Not my 1st choice either, but he is a devotee of the triangle offense and the only reason Coach K would come here is because of the NCAA sanctions he’s facing.
June 24th, 2009 at 11:33 am
It will be interesting to see how the Raiders split the 30 carries a game this year
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Agreed.
Raider QB’s had 419 pass attempts last year.
Raider RB’s had 428 rush attempts last year.
both average out to 26 or 27 attempts per game. I guess that’s what Cable had in mind when he said “balanced offense”. Problem was the passing game stunk (blame that on whoever you wish) and didn’t produce. Ranked 31st in the league!
June 24th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Curry dropped 5 passes last year. Higgins, Lelie & Walker each dropped 2. Schilens had none.
June 24th, 2009 at 11:41 am
RR, Not a fair comparison as both Lelie and Walker had to have their pants fixed from all the splinters in them from being inactive and on the bench.
June 24th, 2009 at 11:53 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
was the passing game stunk (blame that on whoever you wish) and didn’t produce. Ranked 31st in the league!
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I like to blame and point fingers.
Al Davis (firing a head coach mid-season – 3 signal callers
Lane Kiffin (ultra-conservative play calling and poor personnel decisions)
Tom Cable (poor personnel decisions
Kwame Harris
Ronald Curry
Cornell Green
Ashlie Lelie
Justin Fargas
JaMarcus Russell (poor accuracy at times)
June 24th, 2009 at 11:53 am
OAK, and others,
Give me a few minutes plz, I’m closing a deal. This guy is a tough sale!!
June 24th, 2009 at 11:55 am
I like to blame and point fingers
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we all do! that’s what blogs are for
June 24th, 2009 at 11:58 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 11:33 am
It will be interesting to see how the Raiders split the 30 carries a game this year
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Agreed.
Raider QB’s had 419 pass attempts last year.
Raider RB’s had 428 rush attempts last year.
both average out to 26 or 27 attempts per game. I guess that’s what Cable had in mind when he said “balanced offense”. Problem was the passing game stunk (blame that on whoever you wish) and didn’t produce. Ranked 31st in the league!
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This is actually an interesting post on a couple of levels. Cable does believe in a balanced offense, which is much more difficult to defend. Especially when you are chucking the rock around the yard on First down. When your passing game is the worst in the league, that is going to put a huge strain on your running game, especially in the red zone, and your defense. Hence the drafting of Russell, Dmac, DHB, Louis Murphy, Bush, Shilens, Shields, etc.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
GET ‘em O…..tell ‘em if you anit makin slaps or doublin stacks you cant see me!!!!!!your like our closer!!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
The pass offense will be better if the run game can get more than 2 yards on 1st and 10…the pass game also improves when there is a pass catching threat in the backfield…when the pass catching tight end doesn’t have to stay in and block….when the wide receiver get separation…when the left tackle is getting blown up….
I’ll say this…the pass offense demonstrated several times that it can be effective when the right talent is on the field.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
LMAO, this guy is arguing over $250!!!!!! On a 7k car!!!!!!
My last try to close him:
Take away close: maybe this is too much car for you sir,and I have a few other cars that I think you would like, but I can’t do more for you on this one.
Let’s see what happens. He is talking to the wife!!
June 24th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Raider O Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
LMAO, this guy is arguing over $250!!!!!! On a 7k car!!!!!!
My last try to close him:
Take away close: maybe this is too much car for you sir,and I have a few other cars that I think you would like, but I can’t do more for you on this one.
Let’s see what happens. He is talking to the wife!!
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LOL! The automitive buisness is a crack up, I’ve been doing it for 9 years now. Service, not sales though, but its still just as entertaining.
customer:
“Yeah, I backed my car into my mail box and the side mirror broke off…”
me:
“Ok sir, a new mirror installed for your vehicle will be $xxx.xx, and I have on in stock, would you like it replaced today?”
customer:
“WHAT! THATS JUST REDICULOUS! WHY ISN’T THIS COVERED UNDER MY WARRANTY!?!???”
Ah, yes we’ll fix your garage door opener for free if that breaks too! As a matter of fact buddy, why don’t ya bring your taxes down and we’ll cover those under warranty too…
All day everyday…..
June 24th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
RaiderO, did you give him a Carfax? lmao
June 24th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
AZ,
LMAO You think that’s funny!!!!
My customer: OK deal, but can you put 4 new tires????
4 new tires will cost about $200+!! that’s what him and the wife came with after a 10 min call. LMAO
Me to the customer: I love it!!!! Great idea sir!! But No tires!!!!!!
Sold!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you God!!!!!!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Hay AZ.. if you put gas in a diesel motor is that cover under warranty ?!?LOL it is fuel
June 24th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Warriors trading Crawford and Anthony Randolph to the Hawks for Acie Law and Speedy Claxton.
WTF?
June 24th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
well NATION, another day is coming to an end peace out O, Double R, Dakota, nice to see KK how did gettin lined out go?? l8er AZ and R8 and any one I missed I”M OUT PEACE!!
PLAYBOUND!!!!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
have a good one OAK
June 24th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
GET’ER DONE!
1. Russell: grow some b*lls, get that WR corps under your belt, and command the team on and off the field.
2. Dmac: Your the f*ckin MAN bro, show us what you got this year!
3. Mr. Bush: stop sniveling and bust some heads! Then the paycheck will come!
4. JLH: Burn, baby burn! 4 PR’s for TD’s this season ok? thanks…
5. Chris Johnson: Dude, you rock! Where the h*ll have you been bro? I hope/know your the real deal, it’s great to have you opp Nnamdi! Keep it up.
6. Schilens: 1,000 yards this season kid. Stay healthy.
7. DHB: Not expecting the world out of you this season. Just learn what you can learn and we’ll blow Crabtree outta SF next year. Get healthy and study, study study… Spend some time with Jerry Rice if you can.
8. Zach: Probowl Baby! Do what you do.
9. Loneal: Great to have ya in our locker room! Make sure these young cats understand what it takes (especially Mr. Bush)
10. Michael Huff: It’s time to make some plays, the nation is getting restless. We love you measurables and your positive attitude, but get your head back in it! Spend some time with Primetime if ya can, it did wonders for C. Johnson.
Just a few shouts, I know they read this sh*t…. I would.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Hay AZ.. if you put gas in a diesel motor is that cover under warranty ?!?LOL it is fuel
*****
People do it… And yes, they THINK it should be LOL
June 24th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Good job on the sale O! Those ones are tough.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
WOW OK PLAYOFFBOUND!!!! I’ts been a long week already!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
I’m done!!! That was a tough sale, but I did enjoy it! lol
I’m sorry I missed you OAK, it took longer that I would like, but I’m sure you understand. Later Bro.
Dakota,
LMAO, I do if they ask me. I have nothing to hide. I buy these cars myself, and I stand by them. For a month or so! lol
June 24th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Gov Mark Sanford (R) S.C. Wow!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
5 miles or 5 minutes…right O
June 24th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
I was reading about Huff on Profootballtalk a couple of days ago and we have paid that guy so much money its not funny.
He has enough money he should be able to buy some coverage or tackles.
Impossible to trade him no one in their right mind is going to pay him his current salary. We are just going to have to cut him and take the cap hit.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
An affair! OMG!!!!! Dems never have affairs :0
June 24th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Thank you AZ, I’ve been in the business for over 10 yrs. It never gets old!!
People think the Money is in Sales, but it’s in service. That’s why I want to own a franchise one day. I don’t care if it’s Kia!! I can sell used cars, and make money on service. You need a great Service rep to make it work. Someone that customers trust and like.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
I was reading about Huff on Profootballtalk a couple of days ago and we have paid that guy so much money its not funny.
He has enough money he should be able to buy some coverage or tackles.
Impossible to trade him no one in their right mind is going to pay him his current salary. We are just going to have to cut him and take the cap hit
*****
Not so fast. I don’t think even the waterboys got better year to year with the recent state of our beloved franchise, let alone any players. Lets give it 1 more year under the Cable man and see if he gets his head back.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Yeah so what the Governor has a side piece in Argentina…at least it is not as embarrassing as senator Craig getting caught in the men’ room at the airport trying to have gay airport bathroom sex.
When are people going to get over it, monogamy is a thing of the past, it was left behind in the 1950’s with segregation, Leave it to Beaver and leaded gasoline.
One thing for sure at least it was a Republican!
June 24th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Another Repub going Awol. In Argentina, no less :-]
June 24th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
R8,
5 miles!!!!!
No dude, a lot can happen in 5 miles!!!
You start it, you own it!!!
LMAO
June 24th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Dakota the difference is the Dems are not the ones preaching family values, monogamy, abstinence, etc.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Hypocrisy a synonym for chistianity and or republicanism
June 24th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Clinton was the poster child of fidelity
June 24th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
LMAO O
June 24th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
I know automotive has a bad rap, but truely the key to success is honesty and integrity when it comes to this bizz. I dont care what people say, I sleep very well and live even better. Made a great career out of it.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Republicanism is a new word I think I just made it up and you sound kind of like GW Bush when you say it.
Try it!
Remember when Bush made up the word stategery!
June 24th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
R8,
Welcome to A Hab Motors, we have a few sayings here:
1- why argue, paying sticker is quicker!!
2- you start it, you own it!!
3- everything can be fixed, and it’s usually just a fuse!!
lol
June 24th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
r8rpaver
Clinton didn’t run his campaign on family values. He is smart enough to know he is a man and he has a pen-is and he will use it!
June 24th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
I guess if people find it okay to abort babies as a contraceptive, why wouldn’t they think it was okay to cheat on your dying wife right? Thankfully that didn’t hurt John’s political career because Dems don’t preach family values. lol
June 24th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Dakota Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
An affair! OMG!!!!! Dems never have affairs :0
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I shouldn’t post on politics, but I will anyway. The Republicans put themselves out there as the family values party. When that’s your primary platform….and then you have all of this nonsense….you lose a LOT of credibility.
They really need a credible 3rd party in this country. Its getting a little sad
June 24th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
AZ,
I agree, that’s why I’m good at what I do. I buy good cars at a cheap price, I sell them close to Trade in Value ( wholesale), and I stand by them.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
During the Democratic Convention, Bill Clinton and Al Silver-n-Black666 Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
r8rpaver
Clinton didn’t run his campaign on family values. He is smart enough to know he is a man and he has a pen-is and he will use it!
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“During the Democratic Convention, Bill Clinton and Al Gore staged a sort of pre-emptive celebration of family values, claiming the issue for themselves. How well they succeeded remains to be seen. They know the danger of Democrats’ seeming promiscuously tolerant of all bizarreness in some aging ’60s, Phil Donahue fashion. Clinton has often sounded virtually Republican in his insistence on personal responsibility.”
Time.com Monday, Aug 31, 1992
LMAO
June 24th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
SnB,
LMAO @ 830.
I was thinking the same thing!!
June 24th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Famly Val-UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUS
June 24th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
O,
If your doing that, your making good money too. Thats how everyone should do things…
Good talkin with everyone. GO RAIDERS.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
On Father’s Day for chrissakes.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Men who have a stance on abortion are either gay, want to be a woman or in politics.
Sorry Dakota but that’s an issue for the ladies to decide!
June 24th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
We should start our own 3rd Party!!
We: the people
June 24th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Later AZ, I enjoyed you posts.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Right, the Dems never mention family values…riiiiight: Pelosi hopes voters will recognize the fact that she “places a premium on family values.”
I guess since the Dems place a premium on family values they too should keep their dicks in their pants?
June 24th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
666,
I disagree sir. If I have to pay for 18 yrs of support, then why don’t I have a say in it?
I have no issue with supporting kids, but my issue is:
Why is it just up for the ladies, it’s your baby too!!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
US Soccer beat Spain!!!!!
Oh, I forgot, who gives a fuk?
June 24th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Just messin with ya Dakota.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Clinton ran a balanced budget the end of this argument!
He had a surplus can you say Surplus!
Until GW came in and started a war!
Now I myself don’t care who you hump as long as you can run a balanced budget and keep this country in the black!
Now Reagan that’s a president for you republicans to be proud of he taught old people how to eat cat food, he claimed ketchup was a vegetable so he could cut back on school lunches. He took credit for the fall of the Soviet Union when they were in the middle of a civil war.
LMAO
June 24th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
I share some views with Reps, and some with Dems. What does that make me? Confused!! lol
I need a party to represent me!! We all do!!
June 24th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
O only after it is born does the father have rights…until then its the womans right to choose
June 24th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Raider O if you get stuck with 18 years of support then it appears our government feels the same way, like they (women) have some kind of biological right over us when it comes to raising children.
However the system makes me ill and I don’t agree with it. I spent 17 years paying child support I just got done a couple of years ago.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
666,
Just because Clinton road the tech-stock boom to a balanced budget, doesn’t mean he had anything to do with it…right place, right time. Reagan will always be looked at as a much better President that Slick Billy.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Dakota,
The Democrats give obligatory “lip service” to family values type stuff. The Democrats tend to have an “to each his own” mentality to personal behavior. Democrats mainly run on wealth redistribution and domestic policy issues. That’s their brand…..
The Republicans brand is family values, fiscal discipline and foreign policy.
Now before you all jump on me. I am not saying that either party lives up to their respective brand in practice…..just that those key words are how they market themselves.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Dakota,
The Republicans are messing up like the Conservative Party did in Britain after John Major or in Canada after Brian Mulroney
June 24th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Its too bad…because this country is at its best with disenting voices in the public sphere.
The Republicans are diminishing themselves everyday with their bizarre behavior, incoherent strategy, and self-annointed leaders
June 24th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
666, you could have been on board as Prez during this time and the economy would still have been good:
“The revolution in information technology had been forty years in the making,” writes Greenspan. “It began after World War II with the development of the transistor, which provoked a surge of innovation. The computer, satellites, the microprocessor, and the joining of laser and fiber-optic technologies for communication all helped set the stage for the Internet’s seemingly sudden and rapid emergence.”
The information technology revolution transformed the economy. “Much of corporate activity is directed at reducing uncertainty,” writes Greenspan. “For more of the twentieth century, corporate leaders lacked timely knowledge of customers’ needs. This has always been costly to the bottom line. Decisions were made based on information that days or even weeks old. Most companies hedged: they maintained extra inventory and backup teams of employees ready to respond to the unanticipated and the misjudged. This insurance usually worked, but its price was always high. Standby inventories and workers are all costs, and standby ‘work’ hours produce no output. They produce no revenue or added productivity. The real-time information supplied by the newer technologies has markedly reduced the uncertainties associated with day-to-day business…Information technology has released much of the extra inventory and the ranks of backup workers to productive and profitable uses.” Greenspan “zeroed in” on what he believed to be the primary riddle of the technology boom: the question of productivity. The government, he said, “had been underestimating productivity growth for years.” How did the technology boom improve productivity? Greenspan said, “The major contribution of advances in information technology and their incorporation into the capital stock has been to reduce the number of worker hours required to produce the nation’s output, our proxy for productivity growth.”
“Even rising productivity could not explain the loonies of stock prices,” writes Greenspan. “On October 14, 1996, the Dow Jones Industrial Average vaulted past 6,000-a milestone achieved, declared a front-page story in USA Today, ‘on the opening day of the seventh year of the most consistent bull market in history’…The New York Times noted that more and more Americans were shifting their retirement savings into stocks, reflecting ‘a widespread belief that the stock market is the only place to make long-term investments. America was turning into a shareholders’ nation.”
A stock-market boom is good for the economy, because “it predisposes businesses to expand, makes consumers feel flush, and helps the economy to grow.” Nevertheless, Greenspan and Rubin were growing concerned as “more and more households and businesses were exposing themselves to equity risks.” What if the stock-market boom was a bubble?
June 24th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
We voted the Conservative Party out of existence after Mulroney.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Dakota I respect your opinion now lets get back to what really matters in life….will JaMarcus Russell have a 65% completion rate or higher?
Can he throw for 20 plus TD’s
June 24th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
“they think that it is ok to cheat on the your dying wife”-it didn’t seem to bother the Repubs. when Gingrich did it.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
SnB Defense Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Its too bad…because this country is at its best with disenting voices in the public sphere.
The Republicans are diminishing themselves everyday with their bizarre behavior, incoherent strategy, and self-annointed leaders
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Same thing was said of the Dems four years ago…as soon as the public sees that the Dems have proposed some of the most expansive spending in the history of the US, they will understand and come to their senses.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
You see Dakota the key sentence in your article is here:
“Much of corporate activity is directed at reducing uncertainty,” writes Greenspan.”
Greenspan is a republican first hired by Reagan in 1987 of course he is going to have a slanted version of our economy during the Clinton era.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
lefty12 Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
“they think that it is ok to cheat on the your dying wife”-it didn’t seem to bother the Repubs. when Gingrich did it.
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Have you seen Newts wife?
June 24th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
R8 and 666
I disagree. If it’s her right to choose, then I feel it’s her right (responsibility) to support the kid.
She chooses, and I pay!!! I don’t like that deal!!! No sir!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
the one he has now,or the one he divorced as she laid in a hospital bed?
June 24th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Here’s Raider Talk,
What do you think about the statement below by BHP:
Priesttj Says:
As I said truth be told DHB is a more skilled WR than Tim Brown coming into this league…………period
June 24th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
One of the things that cracks me up about Republicans is how they can be so hard core against something and preach about it and then get busted for that very thing!
Rush Limbaugh hates drug dealers he got popped illegally buying drugs form Mexico. LMAO
Larry Craig against gay marriage he gets popped trying pick up a man for sex in a bathroom at an airport.
Its ok if you going to screw up your human but don’t be a preacher (abuse normal citizens for doing something) then get busted for that very thing for which you are against, that is just pure hypocrisy.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Dakota-just pointing out the double standard used by some.both sides have them.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
R8 & 666,
Look at this way too,
What if you want the Baby, and you are willing to support the baby, but she doesn’t want it. Tough luck for you!!!
How do you feel about that?
June 24th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Raider O Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
R8 and 666
I disagree. If it’s her right to choose, then I feel it’s her right (responsibility) to support the kid.
She chooses, and I pay!!! I don’t like that deal!!! No sir!
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lol…you play you pay only goes one way RaiderO…the girl has a get out of jail free card…which may or may not cause them trouble down the road if you know what I mean.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
KK,
This is no place for Raiders talk, not now!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Dakota Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
SnB Defense Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Its too bad…because this country is at its best with disenting voices in the public sphere.
The Republicans are diminishing themselves everyday with their bizarre behavior, incoherent strategy, and self-annointed leaders
______________________________
Same thing was said of the Dems four years ago…as soon as the public sees that the Dems have proposed some of the most expansive spending in the history of the US, they will understand and come to their senses.
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Maybe…a 3rd party that is based on facts, fiscally responsible, and socially moderate is desperately needed now. The 2-party system is destroying the country
June 24th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Man this place is full of libs…lol.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Dakota,
I think it does cause them trouble. IMHO
June 24th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
“What if you want the Baby, and you are willing to support the baby, but she doesn’t want it. Tough luck for you!!!”
Then your chick too, probably lesbian I mean who wants a damn kid, that’s what women force on us, like marriage.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Here’s Raider Talk,
What do you think about the statement below by BHP:
Priesttj Says:
As I said truth be told DHB is a more skilled WR than Tim Brown coming into this league…………period
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This statement could be made for any receiver drafted on the first day. Doesn’t matter until they step on the football field.
DHB has talent…but he’s not a slam dunk like a Calvin Johnson or Randy Moss
June 24th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
I do see your point about the Rep party holding up family values while bumping uglies with the maid…I guess it is the same way I feel about all the Dems that claim to want to redistribute the wealth and bring entitlements to the poor all the while cheating like motherfukers on their taxes. Schyt, Obama had to go to plan D on many of his appointments because all the Dems were ripping off America and their constituents.
All politicians are hypocrites.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
I think I posted in here on Fathers Day:
“Great they now have a day to celebrate the fact that I didn’t pull out fast enough.”
June 24th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Dakota
“All politicians are hypocrites.”
I think we can all agree on that.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
SnB
Let me asks you this, was Tim Brown coming out of college of higher value than DHB.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
KK
Tim won the Heisman you cant compare the two in that manner.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Everyone knew who Tim Brown was coming out of college…the same cannot be said of DHB. I’ll eat my hat if DHB is ever half the WR Tim Brown was for us. I hope I will have to eat my hat, but I seriously doubt it.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Silver-N-Black666 Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
KK
Tim won the Heisman you cant compare the two in that manner.
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I would think so. I was trying to tell Priest that 42 cathes 600yds and 5 TD’s is not a #7 pick.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Dakota,
Your post 876 was on point.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Hopefully DHB is at least as good as James Jett…that is about as hopeful as I am on DHB at this point.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
O it happen to my son 2 years ago…and the bioth laughed about it
June 24th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
I leave for a few minutes and you guys go political on me!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
KK
I thought so I mean seriously Tim Brown coming out of Notre Dame with his Heisman trophy is hardly comparable to DHB out of Maryland with 42 catches 600yds and 5 TD’s
June 24th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
How about that USA kickball team!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
AZ Raider
Don’t worry we are back on track with the Tim Brown DHB comparison.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
666 SNB…….
I don’t want to speak for BHP so here:
Priesttj Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 12:37 am
KK, man you are argumentative for no good reason other than to argue. To say Tim won the heisman as a WR is misleading. Yes Tim played WR but he also played slotback, HB and his biggest plays were on special teams. As a KR and PR same as his rookie year. It was his game in totality that won the heisman. Tim Brown as a WR only would’ve NEVER won the heisman……….period
That’s what I mean and you know it.
Look at Tim’s stats as a WR and compare them to DHB I gaurantee you they are no better. And I haven’t even looked them up yet but I know I’m right. Al Davis was convinced that he could become a great WR but he almost didn’t until Art Shell convinced him to work harder at it.
Tim has told that story many times
June 24th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Tim Brown didn’t have great college receiving stats because he played on a ND team that always ran the ball…DHB put up mediocre stats on a college team that was running a “pro-style” offense…red flags.
But he is fast.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Maybe BHP wants Art Shell to come back and coach up DHB? lmao
June 24th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Dakota Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Man this place is full of libs…lol.
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Libs, or Labis..Labia??
June 24th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Tim Brown was an athlete he could have played any sport I am guessing. Yeah he didn’t have the great WR stats at ND but he made up for that by playing on special teams and doing anything he could do to get in the game.
DHB is just a fast guy that is learning how to be a WR.
Huge difference!
In my opinion.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
I think he’s parsing finely.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
And not from ND…. We all know who AL feels about ND..Right…or someone feels about ND
June 24th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
See, the blog bogs down when you go from politics to Raiders….
June 24th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
I gotta go…see you later you left-wing nut jobs…
June 24th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
C-YA
June 24th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Reagan will always be looked at as a much better President that Slick Billy.
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He single handedly created the homeless problem we now have.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
RaiderTW
Don’t forget the Veterans!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
dOGG ON MY 3RD PITCHER!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
I mean Dogg
June 24th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Scroll up to my shout outs
Ive said it all baby!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Trip 6 you still here???
June 24th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
well silver-n-black 666 if you can see this go 2
vanderbilly.com
June 24th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Raider O Says:
R8 & 666,
Look at this way too,
What if you want the Baby, and you are willing to support the baby, but she doesn’t want it. Tough luck for you!!!
How do you feel about that?
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I’m not r8 or 666, but ALWAYS wear a r@bber on your willie,ALWAYS!
June 24th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
TW,
I’m married and I have a daughter! lol
Too lalte!!
June 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
So is
John Ensign
Newt Gingrich
David Vitter
Vito Fossella
Mark Sanford
Bob Allen
John David Roy Atchison
Larry Craig
Jack Ryan.
And ALL Republic@n.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Dakota Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
I do see your point about the Rep party holding up family values while bumping uglies with the maid…
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Actually, the only way to tell sex scandals by party is the Dem sex scandals are hetero.
June 24th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
You got that right OakG!
June 24th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
30 years ago this day.
The man who wished to be like Bo.
http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090624&content_id=5502716&vkey=hof_news&partnerId=hof_enews_062409
June 24th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
M,
Are you still here?
June 24th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
sumbitch! just missed it.
FREE 408 & FREE DIRTY!
June 24th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Hello!!!!
E
C
H
O
Hello!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Sorry!!!
As I was saying:
Hello!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
FREE Speech!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
The Dogs may bark, but the Caravan moves on.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Dakota Says:
I gotta go…see you later you left-wing nut jobs…
———-
Rightwing nut jobs k!ll people.
Leftwing nut jobs try to save the planet, big difference.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
O, you say your dogs are barkin’?lol
June 24th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
TW,
LMAO!!!
I was trying to think why us that saying in my head, but after reading your post, I noticed that my dog is barking.
I have a Mini Pin, so I learned to ignore it. He barks at the wind!! lol
June 24th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Lol, an old US saying ‘my dogs are barking’ means your feet hurt.lol
June 24th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Pincer? I have a mini Greyhound that I bet is a wound up damanding pain in the ass compared to you mini pin. My girlfriend says he’d be dead by now if he wasn’t so cute. I’d have to agree, he’s like a little prince. But he can run 30 mph so it’s hard to disipline him. lol
June 24th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
TW,
I didn’t know that! lol
By the way, I’m trying to make sense of that saying but I can’t!
Feet hurt: dogs Barking!! LMAO
June 24th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
lol
Mini Greyhound!!!! LMAO
How Mini??? lol
June 24th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Thats like saying Baby Great Dane!! lol
June 24th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
16″ tall 15 pounds probably the size of your guard dog.
Really, he can run 30mph.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
16 inches tall. Baby Great Dane, is like saying legally drunk. Leave my friend alone officer, he’s legally drunk!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
TW,
What are you smoking?? I want some!
Mini Greyhound, 16″ 15 pounds, and runs 30mph!!!
By the way, a greyhound puppy doesn’t run 30mph, IMHO
Dude, you really need to share!! Let me get to your level, think if the Chats we can have!!
Baby great Danes, Mini Greyhounds, etc….
lol
June 24th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
I was stopped by the police one, and I have been smoking! The officer asked me if I have been drinking? I told him yes I was, and pointed at my 7-up can. My friend started laughing, so did the officer and he let me go. lol
By the way, I was young. That was about 9 yrs ago. I was 20/21
June 24th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Once, sorry.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
TW,
Top speed for a greyhound dog is about 45mph. A full size Greyhound! lol
June 24th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Bear with me O, he looks similar to this:
http://activerain.com/image_store/uploads/8/3/5/3/4/ar118272249443538.jpg
only more grey. I he’ll stand on you at a moments notice!
June 24th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
These are full sized greyhounds but this is how my dog would handle the situation I’m sure. lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlS93KlH7_A
June 24th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Tell me if this isn’t 30mph, indoors on a slick floor!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUwb4RmvVyM
June 24th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
I dent know that, sorry.
By the way, post 931: LMAO, and Cake!!! That’s too much!! Still LMAO.
I have to leave, my family wants to go out for dinner.
Later TW, and as always, I had a great laugh. Thank you.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
black sheep black sheep have some fun when I hit the ground I was on the run!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
You go… Busta 4eva…go 4eva …go 4 eva
June 24th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
SMELLAS!!!
What up Nation?? Anybody not out drinkin?
June 24th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
WILSON!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
me go
June 24th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Hello!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
I’m here, I’m not drinking!!
But to be honest, I wish I was.
A nice glass of Remi Martin VSOP, and a smoke!!! Heaven!
I love you Remi!!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
I love the French!! They can’t fight, and the only war they won was against themselves! lol I’m playing if any of you are French, I mean no disrespect.
But they do Have Good food, great alcohol, and hairy women!! lol
June 24th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Wheres Jerry? Getting boring in here,so,where is the USA on Iran,people begging for freedom,and NOTHING from the president,but weak bs,a weak hand shake,some know what I mean! Sad,but true Jerry, a NEW post would help ! Raiders!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Sittin, thinkin, sinkin, drinkin
Wondering what I’ll do when Im through tonight
Smokin, mopin, maybe just hopin
Some little girl will pass on by
Don’t wanna be alone
But I love my girl at home
I remember what she said
She said, my! my! my!
Dont tell lies!
Keep fidelity in your head!
My! my! my! dont tell lies!
When you’re done your should go to bed!
Dont say hi! like a spider to a fly
Jump right ahead and youre dead!
Sit up, fed up, low down, go round
Down to the bar at the place I’m at
Sittin, drinkin, superficially thinkin
About the rinsed out blonde on my LEFT
And then I said hi! like a spider to a fly
Remembering what my little girl said
She was common, flirty
She lookd about thirty
I would have run away, but I was on my own
She told me later shes a machine operator
She said she liked the way I held the microphone
I said, my! my! my! like a spider to a fly
Jump right ahead in my web…
June 24th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Where is the USA on Palest!ne?!!!!
How many palest!nians have to die before we do something?
Dakota,
Don’t answer that. lol
June 24th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Mmmmmmm hairy women….
June 24th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
LMAO BSJ.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
BSJ,
Are you a fan of Hairy women too? lol
June 24th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Very much so.
June 24th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
I believe in flossing for all around health…
June 24th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Do you own a bushmaster 5000?
Thx Dakota! lol
June 24th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Do you guys eat chicken with the feathers on… Just say no to hair…
June 24th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
R8,
You don’t know what you are missing!!! It’s like unwrapping gifts on Christmas morning!! lol
June 24th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
R8,
What are you drinking tonight? I miss drinking bro!
June 24th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Bro remember im 46…..had both…just dont like spitting hair out if you know what i mean….Merry Christmas
June 24th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Just started on coor light….CODE BLUE Bro
June 24th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Now that’s NASTY!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
I miss smoking so were even….damn drug tests
June 24th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
O im just a country boy from nocal…its what we do
June 24th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Coors or Jose Cuervo…
June 24th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
What DID you drink ?
June 24th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Code Blue!! LMAO
Merry Christmas to you too!! lol
My barber is Arab, a white guy comes in to get a hair cut. He looks like he is in the military, so I asked him where he was from, he said New Mexico. The barber then said: but you don’t look Mexican!!
I swear, true story. It happened a few months back.
LMAO
June 24th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
R8,
I used to Drink Remi Martin and Crown Royal. I loved beer.
I love Sam Adams, Sierra Nevada, and Heineken.
June 24th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
LMAO
June 24th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Everytime you open a Heineken doesnt it smell like weed? Wait theres your out clause now you can drink again LOL ….. my boys drink it ….i like moosehead & ST Paulie Girl..Never got into Remi or Crown
June 24th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
I love Heineken!!!
I miss you my lovely green glass bottle
Sexy and tall with a Red star on the label
You were my only friend for so, so many years
Gave me joy when everything else made me shed tears
I love you Heineken!!
June 24th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
R8,
See what you started!!!!
I miss my Heinekens!!! Can you imagine if there no !slam, and I’m doing all this for nothing!!!
God better make good on his promise, rivers of wine and beer!! I like that, a river of Heineken!!!! Mmmmmmm
June 24th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Raider O Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
R8 & 666,
Look at this way too,
What if you want the Baby, and you are willing to support the baby, but she doesn’t want it. Tough luck for you!!!
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r8rpaver Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
O it happen to my son 2 years ago…and the bioth laughed about it
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Dont know if you saw this or not
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June 24th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
O no no no you asked what i was drinking…LOL…If you dont want to hear an answer …. dont ask the question LMAO
June 24th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
O be right back my 10 month old black lab just jumped in the pool AGAIN have to dry him off….crazy dog at 11 PM
June 24th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
R8,
I saw that, and I don’t think that’s fair for the male in that situation.
June 24th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
LMAO
I love dogs!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Dude my son LOVES kid he want 8….When that Bioth went to him and said hahahah..I just K!lled your son… Dude he lost it… that was 2-3 years ago and he hasnt had a girl friend since…dont get me wrong he still hits it when he gets the chance but she effed him up for a while….Obviously he broke up with her right after that but man what a C-nt
June 24th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Dakota, what kind of sauce do you like with that hat?
What most don’t understand about DHB, all he ever played at Maryland was WR he focused on it in a prostyle offense. Now No one is saying he will have a better career than Timmy because Timmy’s on his way to the HOF and had a 15 year career.
A career that long is very unusual so that’s a tough match. But for DHB to be a better more skilled WR than Timmy is doable. Tim Brown as a WR was consistent a extremely productive but he wasn’t what I call a truely great WR. Not a dominant WR in the mold of say a Warren Wells, Art Powell or Jerry Rice type.
When you talk about truely great WR in NFL history his name will not come up. Yet his stats suggest that he was. Tim was a workmen type reciever that got the job done but I don’t think he was as good as Cliff Branch who’s stats are half what Tim’s. DHB could be a better player with not quite the production just because he more skilled. Jeff Hostetler threw every pass to Tim he could because Tim was his best player. Jeff was not a very good QB but he knew Tim would catch it. DHB may never get those opportunities due to ZM and DMC as well as other WR’s.
So we’ll see..
June 24th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
O this lab is the best dog….house broke at 3 months listens great….smart as hell…just loves water..witch is great but not at 11 pm lol
June 24th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
BHP: do you think DHB or Robiskie is more ready for the pro style offense..and i say Robiskie because of his up bringing more then what he may have learned at ohio st ?
June 24th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
Dude,
She laughed!!!!! How old was she?? And WTH is wrong with her???
June 24th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Your son is a better man than I’m. I don’t what I would do, but it will be motivated by insanity.
WT??????
June 24th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
She was 19 so was he…O my boy came to me a cried his effing eyes out…what a cold hearted B…thats why i said its not right but the father has no rights until it is born…He and We as a family ( and you know how that is ) would have taken that child in a new york minute
June 24th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
People used to think I was gay for not having a girlfriend, or going out looking for women.
I knew something like this may happen, I don’t trust people!! That served me well so far, but I do trust my wife. She is my best friend!! It was worth the wait!!
June 24th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
R8,
Dude, I disagree. It’s his baby too!!!!! Where is the logic in that????
June 24th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
I love equal rights, but this is crazy!!!
This is a Female dominated society!!! And that happened after WW2!!! Very sad!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Yeah I think Robiskie, DHB, as well as the WR’s from UNC will all adapt to the NFL easier than the WR’s from spread offenses.
That’s the reason Desean Jackson made it easier than most, because they understand the route tree.
June 24th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Thats great O my wife is my best friend also..and all our kids see that ( all 5 of them)..he hates drama that comes with some young girls.. he want a couger now … O and this girl was HOT 6′ tall brown hair beautiful…It hurt him bad
June 24th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Now of course you need talent.
June 24th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
BHP : How bad is his hammy ? if you know..any reason to get worried about him being ready for camp ?
June 24th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Where are my rights as a father???
Am I just a bank account to support my kids?? My Kids, that’s why they take my name!!! My kids, not hers, and not even hours.
My kids, my sperm decides if it’s a male or a female!!! My sperm, my kids!!!!
Do you even know what sperm means?? It’s a Greek word that means Seed!!! My Seed!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 12:06 am
O…. we dont have any until the child is born..except if your a sperm donner..then i think you MAY have rights…but arent we all donners…right to choose
June 25th, 2009 at 12:12 am
Look at the structure of the American family now, and compare it to years before WW2. Look at the difference!!
No one stays with the kids, everyone us too busy with their careers and other things, and out kids are suffering. The need live and attention that’s is not provided at home, so they look for it else where. That’s how most kids get in trouble.
What happened to a man working and taking honor in providing for his family, and a woman taking pride in her home and raising the kids. So we have equal rights, great!! How about if the man stays at home and the wife worked, that’s Great too. That’s equal rights!!! Not the right to kill a baby!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 12:15 am
Our kids are suffering, and they need our love and attention.
June 25th, 2009 at 12:17 am
This site is having real problems
I answered your ? … as long as it’s not torn he’ll be fine.
June 25th, 2009 at 12:22 am
O…I worked hard all my life to take care of my family and my wife gave up her career to stay home and take care of our kids…boy was it hard to do on one income but we managed…NO ONE raised our kids but us …no daycare no baby sitters just us…we know the meaning of a FAMILY its not easy with 1 income but its better then having someone else raise OUR kids…They NEVER came home after school to an parentless house NEVER
June 25th, 2009 at 12:25 am
Pay your child support and be quiet…
June 25th, 2009 at 12:27 am
I know some will say that both parents need to work to support the Family. To that I say: that’s our fault, it wasn’t like that before, so what happened?? The work force that was dominated by males, now has females to compete too. More supply than demand, and that effected salaries!!
June 25th, 2009 at 12:28 am
BHP: i hope its not torn…but it wouldnt be the end of the world either…if Chaz,JHL,and Walker handle the load his year and let the kid learn the system we will be ok. Do you think Miller will get to the PB this year ? Saying we have a 500 record or a little better then
June 25th, 2009 at 12:33 am
R8,
I told you, you and you family are good people, but don’t you want the same for others?
Why try to make it on one income when it was done before. Did both your grand-patents had to work. I don’t think so.
Men came home from WW2 and they had to compete for jobs, the work force was dominated by women, due to the men being at war. It never was the same after that!!
June 25th, 2009 at 12:35 am
O… its called greed my friend…everyone wants a bigger house, a nicer car, a boat , summer home in tahoe…keep up with the Joneses…so both parents have to work..Greed
June 25th, 2009 at 12:37 am
My wife doesn’t work, and she doesn’t want to. It’s really hard to live on one income, but it can be done! Not my point. Why is it so hard to live on one income? That’s my point!
June 25th, 2009 at 12:46 am
O…in the 50s and most of the 60s woman stayed home and raised the family…Sure i want the same for others but when you buy a $400,000 home 2 $50,000 cars maybe a boat or jetski,vactions,ect both parents HAVE to work (in most cases) not all
June 25th, 2009 at 12:47 am
R8,
It can’t be greed. I want those things too.
I want a nice big house, a BMW M5, a boat, and I want to travel. I don’t think I’m greedy!
But I’m not willing to make my kids suffer, so I can drive a German car for a few hours a day. I don’t think it’s greed, some people need both incomes just to live. my parents had to do that for a short time.
I know a lot of people need both incomes just to get by every month, and I have all the respect in the works for you. God bless you.
My issue is not with these people, my issue is with this economy, and the lack of benefits from this Gov. Also the way we ate forced into credit, and other things so Corp America can benefit more.
June 25th, 2009 at 12:50 am
O… because most not all people want more then they can afford…bigger house nicer car ect
June 25th, 2009 at 12:53 am
Raider O Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Where is the USA on Palest!ne?!!!!
How many palest!nians have to die before we do something?
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This is a Raider Blog. And as such, personally, I try to refrain from other topics like politics or the Lakers. But this might be one of the top two or three questions EVER asked on this blog.
June 25th, 2009 at 12:57 am
Al Davis’ GM Record has gone into the shyter since he’s passed 74!
June 25th, 2009 at 1:00 am
O…there is nothing wrong with wanting all those thing (nothing at all) but would you go out and buy them if you couldnt pay for them on just your wage alone without having your wife work ? We all want alot of things…its just a matter of what you are willing to give up to get it….1 or 2 working parents.. Maybe greed was not the right word…
June 25th, 2009 at 1:03 am
Its been fun as always O have a great night and god bless…goodnight
June 25th, 2009 at 1:03 am
And so before we condemn them, let us see that we all have the drum major instinct. We all want to be important, to surpass others, to achieve distinction, to lead the parade. Alfred Adler, the great psychoanalyst, contends that this is the dominant impulse. Sigmund Freud used to contend that sex was the dominant impulse, and Adler came with a new argument saying that this quest for recognition, this desire for attention, this desire for distinction is the basic impulse, the basic drive of human life, this drum major instinct
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MLKjr
June 25th, 2009 at 1:07 am
I’m not allowed to post that comment!!! Really why??
June 25th, 2009 at 1:09 am
Now in adult life, we still have it, and we really never get by it. We like to do something good. And you know, we like to be praised for it. Now if you don’t believe that, you just go on living life, and you will discover very soon that you like to be praised. Everybody likes it, as a matter of fact. And somehow this warm glow we feel when we are praised or when our name is in print is something of the vitamin A to our ego. Nobody is unhappy when they are praised, even if they know they don’t deserve it and even if they don’t believe it. The only unhappy people about praise is when that praise is going too much toward somebody else. (That’s right) But everybody likes to be praised because of this real drum major instinct
June 25th, 2009 at 1:11 am
Now the presence of the drum major instinct is why so many people are “joiners.” You know, there are some people who just join everything. And it’s really a quest for attention and recognition and importance. And they get names that give them that impression. So you get your groups, and they become the “Grand Patron,” and the little fellow who is henpecked at home needs a chance to be the “Most Worthy of the Most Worthy” of something. It is the drum major impulse and longing that runs the gamut of human life. And so we see it everywhere, this quest for recognition. And we join things, overjoin really, that we think that we will find that recognition in
June 25th, 2009 at 1:12 am
Good night R8, and god bless you and your family, especially your daughter.
Good night KK and Oak, later Nation.
PS: sorry about all the politics and other topics, but I think they will be deleted soon.
June 25th, 2009 at 5:04 am
FREE 408!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 5:15 am
How many day’s till mr. classy Shaq is talking bout how Lebaron is better than Kobe and Wade.
June 25th, 2009 at 5:43 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 5:54 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,HWNDR, NOMOREFARGAS,4EVA.WONDER IF THERE TALKING RAIDER’S / SPORT’S OVER ON THE POLITICAL BLOG..
June 25th, 2009 at 6:02 am
MORNING NATION!!!!!
LOL@ SHAQ but good trade…
Look for Portland to trade that 22 and Bayless for either Ty Lawson or Kirk Heinrich.. They are a point gaurd away from beating Rambis and Co. oh I mean Phil and Co.
Ohhh thats right either politics or raider talk I remember now!!!
Russel to the PB!!!!
Chaz Most improved player of the year!!!
One D-line man with double (R) digit sacks!!
C. Johnson Will be tested so much he will have 6 picks this year!!
OHH YEAH almost forgot!!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!
Winner Winner Chicken Dinner…will be the 1st post from me following the dis-charger game!!!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 6:04 am
That would be funny, Dirt Lot!
On a side note: Go see Transformers! Good movie with a lot of action…and Megan Fox!
June 25th, 2009 at 6:05 am
KOOL-AID IS ICE COOL AND TASTIN’ GOOD .GOOD DAY OAKLIFER
June 25th, 2009 at 6:20 am
good morning Dirt Lot, Hwnrdr, NMF, 4eva, OAKlifer …
June 25th, 2009 at 6:21 am
whoa. thanks for the Kool-Aid shower this morning OAKlifer!
Russell to the Pro Bowl? yowsa!
I’d be happy if he outplayed Cassel & Orton …
June 25th, 2009 at 6:24 am
Whats up gents, what do you guys think of C. Johnson will he be able to hold down the number two guy for Nnamdi..I know he is just coming into his own which is not that rare for it to take a few years…ala Nnamdi.. So do we have enought secondary help to make it in the passing D this year??
June 25th, 2009 at 6:24 am
I hope the mod comes in and cleans up this place. I haven’t posted anything since noon yesterday and I just caught up reading all or most of yesterday’s posts. complete garbage. trash.
the good part in reading all that junk is it makes me really appreciate the AM crew, where there is always some good Raiders (or just football in general) discussion!
June 25th, 2009 at 6:27 am
I’d be happy if he outplayed Cassel & Orton …
Yes or the prowbowl!!!lol but I agree beating up on division rival QB’s that are supposed to save the franchise is priceless!!!! I think Orten will be fine if Marshall stays!! And The jury is still out on Cassel with out Tony G. Willie Roaf and perhaps LJ he is in a bad situation!!1 D bowe cant do every thing!! like he did for Russell @ LSU!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 6:28 am
OAKlifer: I think the Nnamdi/CJ combo will solid, if not spectacular this year. As for the secondary as a whole? i’m not convinced. 95 percent of Raider fans and writers think that Branch & Mitchell will both start at safety effective Week 1. This is a big concern of mine. They have a combined zero NFL starts
can’t wait for training camp to see if these guys are the real deal!
June 25th, 2009 at 6:30 am
C.JOHNSON CAN HANDLE “THE OTHER SIDE” WE SHALL CALL IT,IMO. I THINK HIS CONFIDENCE IS THE KEY, NEEDS 2 GET OFF TO A GOOD START,A PICK OR 2 AGAINST SAN DIEGO WOULD GO A LONG WAY..
June 25th, 2009 at 6:30 am
OAKlifer…I think CJ can. As for the secondary…I don’t understand the letting of Baker go to keep Eugene, but what do I know…?
June 25th, 2009 at 6:30 am
Double R,
I was wondering If I could get your Veiws on:
The republican party
The Democrat party
Abortion
Rush Limbaugh
O moonlighting
Pal!st!ne
Gypsy’s
Gypsy Jokers
priesttj constantly rambling on politics!!!!
LOL ohhh wait this is a football blog nevermind bro!!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 6:31 am
D bowe cant do every thing!! like he did for Russell @ LSU!!!
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sad but true. LOL. Russell just lofted 50 yard bombs and Bowe would make a play on the ball.
I think that is why AD wanted Tollner/Hackett to come in and install the Air Coryell “mad bomber” offense
June 25th, 2009 at 6:34 am
LOL @ OAKlifer
could you please recite the declaration of independence, the bill of rights, the pledge of allegiance, decypher morse code and run Jerry Mac a hot bath?
just in your spare time. thanks!
June 25th, 2009 at 6:36 am
Raider fans and writers think that Branch & Mitchell will both start at safety effective Week 1. This is a big concern of mine. They have a combined zero NFL starts
That is a concern of mine as well exspecialy facing gates in the first week!! But Only the Shadow knows if these cats will be ready hears to hoping Cable is STRONG and DECISE when making personal decsions!!
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I THINK HIS CONFIDENCE IS THE KEY, NEEDS 2 GET OFF TO A GOOD START,A PICK OR 2 AGAINST SAN DIEGO
Great point bro confidence goes a long way and if rivers test him b/c of Nnamdi and he gets a pick HE will roll the rest of the season!!!
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I don’t understand the letting of Baker go to keep Eugene, but what do I know…?
Baker was good but Cable LOVES Eugene for some reason..not sure why but having him is a luxery at this point like Double R said to (rookies) starting is not the best option for our TE heavy confrence!! But with the roster overhaul and the way things are going maybe Baker had a attitude prob or work ethic prob!!
June 25th, 2009 at 6:38 am
YAS ROCKSTAR, ALSO THE DESPERATE STRUGGLE OF THE “MIDDLE-CLASS” IN 2DAY’S ECONOMY. YOUR THOUGHT’S…. GOOD MORNING BY THE WAY..
June 25th, 2009 at 6:40 am
hears to hoping Cable is STRONG and DECISE when making personal decsions!!
maybe Baker had a attitude prob or work ethic prob!!
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Amen (regarding the Cable comment)
Baker had a “Raider speed” problem …
June 25th, 2009 at 6:41 am
and run Jerry Mac a hot bath?
just in your spare time. thanks!
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Only if he awnsers my live chat Question next week!!!
I think our coners will stand up on most weeks and controll the out side !!its the inside and run support I’m worried about I’m mean we cant have our cake and eat it too!!! Either we have a G. Wilson/M&M type of run support cat or some one that can play coverage but to find both in a safty in this day and age is immpossible…Hence Huff’s last chance everybody is bangin on dude but with the cap the way it is he will have one more year to prove him self and heres some KOOL – AID for ya’s!!!
HUFF COME BACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR ‘09
PROWBOWL in ‘10
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 6:43 am
good one Dirt Lot!
OAKlifer, could you please also explain:
-THE DESPERATE STRUGGLE OF THE “MIDDLE-CLASS” IN 2DAY’S ECONOMY.
-Top 10 ways to have your wife quit nagging
-astrophysics
thanks bro. haha
June 25th, 2009 at 6:44 am
Baker had a “Raider speed” problem …
LMAO
Sad But True~ Metallica
Unfortunately I think as will be the case with Franz J.
Who I would love to have on the feild in the fourth when the game is close and the other team thinks it can run on us!!!! HE BLOWS PEOPLE UP!!!!!!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 6:46 am
HUFF COME BACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR ‘09
PROWBOWL in ‘10
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help! save me! i’m drowning in Kool-Aid! that was a title wave!
concerned about the run? don’t be! Terdell Sands is back and ready to attack
June 25th, 2009 at 6:47 am
Top 10 ways to have your wife quit nagging
1. SEX
2. Flowers
3. SEX
4. Quit playing Madden till 3am
5. SEX
6. Offer to do the dishes
7. SEX
8. Cook
9. SEX
10. BE A RAIDER FAN FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10.(a) Buy her Raider lingerie and some eye Black for 1,3,5,7,and 9
June 25th, 2009 at 6:49 am
AND 4 DESSERT, THE GHETTYSBURG ADDRESS..
June 25th, 2009 at 6:50 am
here comes some Berry Blue flavor that packs a punch. ready for it????
Kelly/Warren/Sands at DT under Marshall & Board’s direction = Top 10 in run defense
booyah! Rob & Keith who?
Rob Ryan & Keith Millard prove to be bums.
June 25th, 2009 at 6:51 am
SEX WITH WHO IS THE ?
June 25th, 2009 at 6:51 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
June 25th, 2009 at 6:49 am
AND 4 DESSERT, THE GHETTYSBURG ADDRESS..
…and the top 10 greatest (I mean the funniest) Presidential (oops…George W Bush) speeches of all time…as seen on David Letterman.
June 25th, 2009 at 6:51 am
booyah! Rob & Keith who?
KEITH DAVIS!!!!!!!(prove to be bum)
)
LOL
June 25th, 2009 at 6:53 am
AND 4 DESSERT, THE GHETTYSBURG ADDRESS
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very nice. what a sweet treat!
LOL @ OAKlifer’s “Top 10 ways to have your wife quit nagging” … tough assignment
haha
June 25th, 2009 at 6:53 am
Talk about Hurricane Kool-Aid…
OH YEAHHHH!!!
Maybe we should send the Kol-Aid guy out to start introductions at the Colliseum! LOL
June 25th, 2009 at 6:55 am
I will drink to that
# 1 rushing team in NFL
#10 Defense in league
LEAST penilized team in league
June 25th, 2009 at 6:58 am
Maybe we should send the Kol-Aid guy out to start introductions at the Colliseum! LOL
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OAKlifer already has that copyright. and you’d have to pay him some serious cash to obtain his services. He’s a great motivational speaker
June 25th, 2009 at 6:58 am
THANK’S GENTALMAN,THA AM-CREW HAS MADE MY MORNING AGAIN,WORK CALL’S,HAVE A GOOD DAY ALL..
June 25th, 2009 at 6:59 am
LEAST penilized team in league
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LOL. yeah
Satele, Carlisle & Green become a dominant force on the o-line, especially in pass protection …
Russell gets sacked fewer times than Cutler last year!
June 25th, 2009 at 7:00 am
have a great day Dirt Lot!
June 25th, 2009 at 7:01 am
Have a good one, Dirt Lot!
Rockstar: I agree! OAK is a great motivational speaker
June 25th, 2009 at 7:03 am
RR…we can still dream right
June 25th, 2009 at 7:10 am
we can still dream right
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thats what blogs are for!
i gotta run fellas. work to do. be back later
June 25th, 2009 at 7:17 am
l8er Double R DL-F peace guys!!!
I am THE MOTIVATOR!!!!
Silver and Black is a nice design g=for the NEW Kool-AID man!!!!
Russell gets sacked fewer times than Cutler last year!
AMEN TO THAT!!!! If notI will take a mp handle down there and wally pip each and every one of those fatties!!!!!1
June 25th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Russell gets sacked fewer times than Cutler last year!
AMEN TO THAT!!!! If notI will take a mp handle down there and wally pip each and every one of those fatties!!!!!1
LMAO!
June 25th, 2009 at 7:39 am
Raider O Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Where is the USA on Palest!ne?!!!!
How many palest!nians have to die before we do something?
Dakota,
Don’t answer that. lol
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Sorry RaiderO, I must….the Palestinians are a conquered people. If they want to stop dying they can simply give in to that fact and assume their new place in the world. But I find it admirable that they continue fighting a battle they have no chance of winning. Shows guts. So either make peace with the J3ws and accept their plight, or keep fighting and dying. It is in their hands. Peace could be found, but many people on both sides have a vested interest in keeping the conflict going…they have made careers of it and have much power and influence that would disappear if peace was achieved. I seriously doubt anything will resolve the conflict in my lifetime.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:42 am
Good day Nation!!! I’ll chat with you all tomorrow!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 7:43 am
l8r Hwndr!!!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 8:15 am
The Raiders have a deal with Air Asia to put the team colors/symbols on one of their planes? Hey, I guess a sucker is born every minute right, lol.
Well, hopefully it generates enough money to pay a part of DHB’s signing bonus!
June 25th, 2009 at 8:19 am
I guess a sucker is born every minute right, lol.
Dakota, This is genious of them TheRAIDER G-5 I can see it now!!!!
Well, hopefully it generates enough money to pay a part of DHB’s signing bonus!
TRUE THAT!!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Oaklifer, I see that Portland wants to trade Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge to the Lakers for Sasha Vujijic and Luke Walton.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Are we talking Raiders this morning or WHAT?
We can talk 9ers and Cowboys if you want LOL
4th and long on Monday night has the contestants playing scrimage with the 9ers practice squad! Should be good television. Ervin and Rice battling it out again!
June 25th, 2009 at 8:32 am
DHB was suppose to sign today but…. he dropped the pen! lol
June 25th, 2009 at 8:33 am
DHB was suppose to sign today but…. he dropped the pen! lol
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Dang, that’s just not right… Who would you have drafted? Don’t tell me Crabtree right?
June 25th, 2009 at 8:36 am
ct raider Says:
June 25th, 2009 at 8:32 am
DHB was suppose to sign today but…. he dropped the pen! lol
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That is a good one CT! And then when he reached down to pick the pen up, he pulled his other hammy!
June 25th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge to the Lakers for Sasha Vujijic and Luke Walton.
yes I heard that too…I think we where also contiplating askin for Kobe, Ariza, Rambis and Coach Phil( of course ) only for the home games!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:01 am
BREAKING NEWS:
JaMarcus Russell will meet with his WR’s & TE’s at Hometown Buffet in San Leandro on Saturday, June 27th at 1pm to discuss plans for the upcoming season.
Russell said he plans to show leadership by eating 3 more plates of food than anyone else who attends the voluntary meeting.
Directly following, the players will all meet at Russell’s house in Oakland to watch the 5 Raider victories last season and enjoy the privilege of drinking from Russell’s custom Kool-Aid keg.
Raiders HC Tom Cable approved of the plans and is excited that the team is taking steps toward improving team chemistry.
-PFT
June 25th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Titans running back Chris Johnson recently proclaimed that he’s separating from the “Smash and Dash” nickname with fellow Titans running back Lendale White, and that Johnson prefers to be known as “Every Coach’s Dream.”
Coach Jeff Fisher addressed the situation on Wednesday.
“I’m sure they’ll come up with something else,” Fisher said, according to Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean. “Dumb and Dumber or something.’’
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LOL!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Jaguars receiver Dennis Northcutt is telling teammates that he has been granted permission to shop himself via trade.
And so Paul Kuharsky of ESPN.com got in touch with Northcutt’s agent, Jerome Stanley.
And so Stanley admitted that Northcutt is available. “They have indicated that they intend to trade him and are trying to do so,” Stanley told Kuharsky.
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trade Andrew Walter and Arman Shields for Dennis Northcutt!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:20 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 25th, 2009 at 9:01 am
BREAKING NEWS:
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LMAO
June 25th, 2009 at 9:20 am
The Kansas City Chiefs are clearly interested in getting as much defensive leadership as possible.
The Kansas City Star is reporting that the Chiefs have agreed to terms with former Chicago safety Mike Brown. Brown, 31, visited Kansas City a few weeks ago. Cleveland was also showing interest.
Brown was a big-time playmaker for Chicago, but he has been decimated by injuries in recent seasons. He was healthy last season (he played in 15 games) but he played just seven games the two previous years combined. Brown showed he can still make an impact, though, last year as he had 73 tackles and two interceptions.
Brown will compete with starters Bernard Pollard and Jarrad Page for playing time. Because of his injuries, Brown has lost some range and will likely be better against the run than the pass.
Brown gives Kansas City another new leader on defense. General manager Scott Pioli brought in linebackers Zach Thomas and Mike Vrabel this offseason. Like Brown, Thomas and Vrabel are players over the age of 30 known for their leadership skills.
With these three veteran players in the fold, the mostly young Kansas City defense should be brought along nicely. Brown is not a unit-changing player, but he has enough skill remaining that he should help the team if he can stay healthy.
-Bill Williamson (ESPN)
June 25th, 2009 at 9:22 am
One aspect of the upcoming summerslong practice fest is that when there are personnel decisions to be made, Cable has some fine coaches in Board and Michalczik and some greybeards who have seen it all in Marshall, Hackett and Tollner to give their input on who should stay and who should go. Yes, Al is going to have his favorites too. Wonder how Lionel, Sanjay and baby Fassel as neophytes will be in critiquing their guys.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:23 am
HUFF RUMORS HEAT UP
ProFootballWeekly and ProFootballTalk.com reported that unnamed sources claimed Al Davis was willing to cut safety Michael Huffif he does not show improvement or reclaim his starting job soon. While it is no secret that Huff is not Coach Cable’s favorite player, the use of unnamed sources gives us pause here at RaiderBeat.com. Until Tyvon Branch and Mike Mitchellprove themselves in games, Huff has the experience to play either safety position. He has value to a team that is thin at safety, even if it is just as a backup. Huff may be a disappointment, but he straps on his helmet every day and does not complain. If Branch and Mitchell work out at safety maybe the Raiders should give Huff a chance to move back to corner, the position he played in college.
-Raider Beat
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couldn’t agree more!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:26 am
How would huff win comeback player of the year he has never been good in the NFL.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:27 am
How would huff win comeback player of the year he has never been good in the NFL.
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quit trying to p1ss in our Kool-Aid!
Huff = Pro Bowl 2009
June 25th, 2009 at 9:30 am
nomo,
please see re post!!!
Either we have a G. Wilson/M&M type of run support cat or some one that can play coverage but to find both in a safty in this day and age is immpossible…Hence Huff’s last chance everybody is bangin on dude but with the cap the way it is he will have one more year to prove him self and heres some KOOL – AID for ya’s!!!
HUFF COME BACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR ‘09
PROWBOWL in ‘10
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!!!
HE WILL PLAY AND WE WIL WIN…..
June 25th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Offseason progress reports: Oakland Raiders
By MJD (Yahoo Sports)
One gets the feeling that this is the make or break year for JaMarcus Russell(notes) as a Raider. He doesn’t have to set the world on fire, but he’s got to have more games like he did last year in weeks 16 and 17 (128.1 rating against Houston, 98.9 rating against Tampa Bay), than he did in weeks 13 and 14 (51.5 rating against Kansas City, 42.0 against San Diego).
A couple of months into the season, he’s either going to be the guy who can lead the Raiders for years to come, or the guy who just lost his job to 72-year-old Jeff Garcia. For the first time in his career, there’s a decent veteran quarterback behind him, so the pressure’s on. He has to at least show that the game’s starting to slow down for him, and that he’s starting to get it. The Raiders can’t just sit there and absorb his inconsistency forever.
Lucky for JaMarcus, though, the Raiders got him some help at receiver. They drafted Darrius Heyward-Bey, an All-ACC honorable mention who relies on his speed, except for when his hamstring is injured, as it has been since the second he put on a Raiders practice uniform. And they got him at number seven overall, which was a total steal.
There are scenarios, though, where I could see the Raiders finishing second in the AFC West. The Chiefs are still rebuilding, and they’ve got a ton of variables that could go either way, and Josh McDaniels has made it clear that he will not stop alienating players until the Broncos are the worst team in the division.
If a couple of offensive line additions work out, and that unit gets stabilized, the Raiders could have an explosive running/receiving out-of-the-backfield game. They’re talented and deep at running back, and if they can make opposing defenses respect the pass at all, who knows? The Raiders offense might not be terrible.
Defensively, I’m still leaning towards terrible, though. The production they’ve gotten out of their defensive line has not matched the payroll, nor has it even come close. Adding Greg Ellis is a good thing, but I don’t know that he’s a huge difference maker. Nnamdi Asomugha(notes) needs help in the secondary, and it would be nice if Michael Huff(notes) decided every now and then to get to a wide receiver before he caught the football.
Progress: It’s been a reasonably productive offseason. I like the Jeff Garcia addition, and I do think he’ll be under center before too long. I like Lorenzo Neal, I like Greg Ellis, and outside of Heyward-Bey, the Raiders managed not to pay anyone three or four times what they’re worth. I call that progress.
Plus one game. 5-11 last year, 6-10 this year.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:31 am
ct raider Says:
June 25th, 2009 at 8:32 am
DHB was suppose to sign today but…. he dropped the pen! lol
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That is a good one CT! And then when he reached down to pick the pen up, he pulled his other hammy!
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LMAO!!!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Rockstar,
Michael Huff would be fine if he was a 4th or 5th round pick and getting such salary.
But he was drafted to be a difference maker….an Ed Reed type of guy. Instead the Raiders got just another player.
Even though the Raiders mismanaged his career..like they did to Gallery…Huff hasn’t demonstrated that much potential to get excited about.
I hope he turns it around…but I am not hopefull
June 25th, 2009 at 9:35 am
FU@K YAHOO and that punk!!!!
who relies on his speed, except for when his hamstring is injured, as it has been since the second he put on a Raiders practice uniform. And they got him at number seven overall, which was a total steal.
WHAT A HATER…Where I’m from cuzzo we drink KOOL-AID not HATERAID!!!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Good morning Nation.
Dakota,
Your point Is based on logic. And they don’t use that there.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:40 am
Huff couldn’t have possibly been drafted to be an Ed Reed type of player. I have NEVER seen Ed Reed shadow TEs all game. I have NEVER seen him exclusively play as a single deep safety. And I have NEVER seen Ed Reed play the nickel.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:40 am
WHAT A HATER…Where I’m from cuzzo we drink KOOL-AID not HATERAID!!!!!
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LOL. who is “MJD” anyways? the only MJD I know of is Maurice Jones-Drew … guy is a complete fool and a clown
June 25th, 2009 at 9:40 am
What’s up OAK?
June 25th, 2009 at 9:42 am
who is Ed Reed? a nobody.
we got the Huffster!
make Oakland (and Texas) proud Huff Daddy!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Too bad we didn’t draft Ed Reed…Buchanon’s speed was good…speed tricked old Al again…
June 25th, 2009 at 9:48 am
If Huff doesn’t play better than Davis or Boyd, then we should cut him.
Another wasted 1st RD pick!!!
Like Gallery @ G, Washington, Brayton, and Gibson!!!
If we atw going tp waste the pick, Why don’t we trade our 1st for proven Vets?
June 25th, 2009 at 9:50 am
But we actually needed a corner the year we went with Routt and Buchanon. CWood was outta here and Nnamdi hadn’t quite arrived on the scene yet.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:50 am
O,
Howz the sales brother???
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Offseason progress reports: Yahoo Sports
By: OAKlifer
One gets the feeling that this is the make or break year for MJD (yahoo nobody writer) He has posted sevreal bone headed progress reports this offseason. Although it souned like he did a littlew research it looks to me as if he takes his job as seriously as Mark Cuban or Steve Kerr LOL @ thier trades as of late!!! Either way this you ng no name reporter has better step up his game, as There has been rumored that there is a younger more talented option at this point “RaiderRockstar” to be rolled out in the start of the season if he dosnt get his head outta his ARSE!
Progress: NONE this kid should not copy and paste from blogs, bspn.com or any other national news media outlet!! It just goes to show they will hire anybody!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:51 am
JHill,
I can’t wait for camp and the season to start so that these players start proving their worth on the field.
The wins have been low but the salaries and draft picks have been very high.
I am tired of guys being paid in the top quartile of their position group performing like journeyman depth players. That’s the rip-off here. The Raiders have HANDCUFFED themselves in high priced contracts to middling players.
I am not going to bother listing the players. Some of them were released but many still remain. Its time to be the Pro-Bowl player that they are being paid for.
Right now everyone has Russell on the hook…What about these 5,6,10 year vets on the roster that haven’t done jack for the Raiders and are still having to learn “FUNDAMENTALS!”
June 25th, 2009 at 9:52 am
If we atw going tp waste the pick, Why don’t we trade our 1st for proven Vets?
Like Gallery
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He might not be the LT we thought he would be with that pick but he IS a GIANT that will be an all-pro LG in this leauge not a waste IMO would I have wanted others in that draft OFCOURSE I’m sure we all KNOW who…but at this point we have to think it was not a wasted pick!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:55 am
OAK,
Yesterdays sale was my last for this month, I’m taking the rest of the month off. My brother in law is coming to visit for a few days.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:57 am
I hear ya SnB, but I really don’t think it’s an issue of talent. I think our roster has a lot of talent, but they are not being put in a position to do what they do.
We can all see it on offense when we say HEY, why isn’t Dmac in the game? Or are we going to run that same ole Fargas/Dmac/Bush right on 1st, Fargas/Dmac/Bush up the middle on 2nd, pass to miller on 3rd, punt.
It’s has been the same thing if not worse on defense. Ryan lining Warren or Sands up directly over the C although we playa 4-3, 2 LBs on the field against 4 WR sets, SS playing man to man on a TE ALL GAME, Single deep (and we’re talking REALLY deep) safety sets.
The coaching situation has been the real story here!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Jhill,
That’s why drafting for need in round 1 is retarded. BPA every time in Round 1.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Good Work O,
Cool to chill wit the fam an take a little break well deserved I’m sure!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:00 am
2nd pick in the 1st RD on a G!!!!!
That alone Makes it a waste. IMO
To make even worse, let’s look at who was available:
Roy Williams
S Taylor
Larry Fitz
V W
Just to name a few!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:01 am
04/25/09
Huff carries only a $945,000 base salary for this season. It rises to $5.75 million in 2010
-Brian McIntyre (Mac’s Football Blog)
original source: Joe Fortenbaugh of the National Football Post
June 25th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Well, BPA almost every time…can’t take a franchise QB if you already have one.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:05 am
JHill,
I hear you on the coaching problems. Problems that lay at the feet of Al Davis exclusively.
Right now I thnk JaMarcus Russell is having to shoulder the entire poor play of this team. True enough, the QB is the leader and most visible player. However, the kid has received very little help from teammates, coaches and ownership.
I guess I am the kind of guy that would like to see other players face the same pressure/competition that JaMarcus is getting.
A lot of guys, and I am not just talking about the D-Line, need to have fire lit under them too.
Tom Cable as well. This whole team can’t go in being complacent….and to me, I am getting a little nervous.
Veterans skipping OTAs, lack of camp competition at several positions (again not just the D-Line), and an almost singular hope being placed in the coaching staff.
These guys have to look at this season as a must win.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:06 am
The Chargers did… Breeze for Eli, I mean Rivers…
June 25th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Rest in Peace Farrah
June 25th, 2009 at 10:06 am
I happen to agree with that Dakota, but you do have kinda factor in need.
AND, I happen to think that most of the time, we do take the best player available. Off the top of my head, I would argue that Gallery, DMac, Huff, and Russell were all the BPA.
I’ll go out on a limb and say that DHB was the best player available at his spot. I got roasted in here for it after the combine, but I wanted him or Percy Harvin. And yeah, I got sucked in by the measureables, but 6′2 – 210lbs – 4.3 – ridiculous hops – played in a pro offense???? All day in my book!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:07 am
OAK,
To be honest bro, I work from home. Unless I’m making a sale or buying a car, I’m at home with the wife and kid.I also go to SDSU.
That’s why I’m here a lot, this is in a way my social life outside my family.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:10 am
R8,
She wasn’t that old, 62!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:11 am
I happen to agree with that Dakota, but you do have kinda factor in need.
AND, I happen to think that most of the time, we do take the best player available. Off the top of my head, I would argue that Gallery, DMac, Huff, and Russell were all the BPA.
I’ll go out on a limb and say that DHB was the best player available at his spot. I got roasted in here for it after the combine, but I wanted him or Percy Harvin. And yeah, I got sucked in by the measureables, but 6′2 – 210lbs – 4.3 – ridiculous hops – played in a pro offense???? All day in my book!
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Huff has the measurables too, but no production… Phenoms like those guys have the gift but no one to show them how to use it at the next level. DHB needs to get with an ALL-Pro vet, pick his brain, run some routes, and just get some inside stuff from someone with experience. Chris Johnson did the whole “Prime-U” thing and look what we got. DHB should have taken advantage of Rice being at the facility the last day of OTA’s and requested some 1 on 1 time with the guy.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:12 am
….oh, and I wanted to draft DHB too, don’t get me wrong. We had to go WR, and Crytree was 2nd on my board to DHB.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:12 am
SnB,
You have to have players that really care about winning and have competitive spirits. Do we have that? I don’t know. Some people have said Russell is motivated by his fear of failure…is that as good as being motivated to win? I don’t know. Many times I am sure that the players care about winning a lot less than the fans do, but hey, if they play well because they want money, then fine, hopefully the results are the same.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Dakota, JHill,
The problem I have for the Raiders is drafting these guys and not having a plan for their development. Moving players around to different positions….not getting rookies on the field….changing systems…
The Raiders have to do a better job of developing talent and also getting free agents that match what they are trying to do on the field
June 25th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Dakota Says:
June 25th, 2009 at 10:12 am
SnB,
You have to have players that really care about winning and have competitive spirits. Do we have that? I don’t know. Some people have said Russell is motivated by his fear of failure…is that as good as being motivated to win? I don’t know. Many times I am sure that the players care about winning a lot less than the fans do, but hey, if they play well because they want money, then fine, hopefully the results are the same.
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I think that motivation gets lost in Oakland. Other than this year, the Raiders draft picks have not been considered reaches. For example, if Oakland doesn’t draft DMAC or Russell or Gallery or Huff….those guys would have been drafted somewhere in the mid to high 1st round.
The Raiders have had BAD free agents…Free Agents out for the money…the coaches have been marginalized and many were just bad…and the owner overbearing….I think its those things that sap the motivation and will out of these young players.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:16 am
SnB,
Best example of that was T Brayton!! Was he a DT, DE, or LB??
June 25th, 2009 at 10:17 am
To make even worse, let’s look at who was available:
Roy Williams
S Taylor
Larry Fitz
V W
Like I said we all know who it was but imho the only two on your list I would take is
Fitz or VW but you win some you lose some who knows where fitz carrer will go with out Boldin to Demand Attention but Gallery will be a GREAT g for years to come!! just think if we drafted Fitz…LOL the center couldnt even get the QB the ball that year if we take fitz he gets 35-40 catches and the nation is hoolering WHY EW DIDNT DRAFT A LINEMAN!!!LOL same shizz diff year we take who we want then when someone turns out better we are like man we shoulda coulda woulda !!!LOL
June 25th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Truly the man, Jim Brown
http://msn.foxsports.com/golf/story/9730582/Jim-Brown’s-my-hero,-Tiger-doesn’t-have-to-be
June 25th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Brayton is the Base End that we need now!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Raider O Says:
June 25th, 2009 at 10:07 am
OAK,
To be honest bro, I work from home.
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Thats tight bro wish I was workin from home more often!!! SDSU STAND UP Marshall Faulk WHAT!!!!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:20 am
hope that link works, good read from Jason Whitlock
June 25th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Agreed AZ …
One simple thing … kinda NO brainer thing we should do with DHB is line him up across from Nnamdi EVERY rep he gets.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:22 am
SnB,
SnB,
I agree 100%. I often wonder what kind of players guys like Stu, Huff, Gallery and Brayton would have turned out to be had they been drafted by teams with a stable coaching staff and a plan in place to win, instead of the craziness of the Oakland Raiders.
If the NFL ever puts in a restricted rookie salary structure, I wouldn’t be surprised to see college player’s agents start to notify the Raiders that their clients will not be signing with them. Why sign with a team that your chances of succeeding are very low, and therefore your client will not be able to cash in 4 or 5 years later with their first free agent contract? Players don’t use such tactics right now because they know they will be set for life with that first rookie contract…but take that incentive away and suddenly players and their agents will be more concerned with their first free agent contract.
Who knows, we did have a good draft in 2007, and the 2008 class has potential, so maybe things are turning around…but the 2009 class may end up being a huge step backwards if Al’s gambles don’t pay off.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Everybody wants to cut Huff because he makes too much money, but then I post how much money he’s making and there is nothing but silence. LOL. I love it
NEWSFLASH: Hiram Eugene is making more money than Huff is this year!
get educated before running your mouths please!
If you want to cut Huff based on performance, fine.
Keith Davis, Jerome Boyd & Darrick Brown are scrubs. camp fodder. special teams will be their only contribution if one of these guys actually makes the team. You guys see enough in these clowns to part ways with a former 1st rounder going into his 4th NFL season? get real!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Raider O Says:
June 25th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Brayton is the Base End that we need now!!!
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The Raiders need a full-time defensive end. Hopefully Greg Ellis can be that guy. Trevor Scott should start on the right side period.
Scott is at a point where he just needs to play. Not sit and watch on the bench. Let’s get this guy more experience and confidence. Don’t waste that time with Burgess….Scott should also be full-time. Let’s see if this guy can develop into a good/great player.
But Tom Cable will probably only play the kid for 5 or 6 snaps a game
June 25th, 2009 at 10:23 am
T Brayton: 6′6 285 and posted the 2nd fastest 40 among D linemen that year with 4.83.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Tyler Brayton was a DT, and should have been left there. Another casualty of the Warren Sapp era!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:27 am
See, I happen to think that Scott should start on the LEFT side, just like he did against the Jets. Especially this year adding the weight and getting stronger. He is no where near the pansy against the run that Burgess is, AND he can provide unusual pressure from that side on 3 downs. He showed me everything I was looking for from that side against the Jets,a nd he can do nothing but get better. Leave him there and not mess up a good thing.
Yeah, I know …. We still need a RDE.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:30 am
JHill,
As long as Scott is the starter…I am not going to get picky at this point. Unless one of the youngsters goes crazy at camp…Ellis and Scot should be the starting DEs
June 25th, 2009 at 10:38 am
OAK,
MF, L Glover, Kirk, and Chaz are from SDSU. 3 were drafted by the Raiders.
Go Aztecs, and Raiders.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Raider O,
yeah, but Kirk Morrison has to step up and be more than just an extra safety in the backfield. He too has to step it up. Right now he’s a serviceable MLB, mostly because of his coverage skills.
This guy has to start finding a way to get to the other side of the line of scrimmage and start becoming more of a hard hitting force in the middle.
The defense is not a particularly tough one right now. And part of the reason for that eminates from the QB of the defense.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:42 am
yuppers my boy is from SD and SDSU alumni when we draftes Chaz he was like in two years that kid will blow!!!! Let’s hope he’s right!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Chaz Schilens will break out this year. The guy realizes his opportunity being a 7th round pick and I think is busting his backside to get better. If he stays healthy and Cable uses him, he will develop into the breakout player of the year
June 25th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Couldn’t agree more on Morrison, SnB!
Couldn’t agree more!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Do you think with Bush, Dmac, and Miller prominent in the passing game, Shiliens with get the ball much?
June 25th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Capt Kirk thinks Marshall/Board/Haluchek will turn him into the next Lofa Tatupu (3 time Pro Bowler)
let’s hope we’re not just calling Morrison a “loaf of poo poo”
June 25th, 2009 at 10:52 am
It’s all there for us on offense. RBs, WRs, TE, decent Oline. No excuse to not have TDs in the first quarter. a high percentage of opening scoring drives. AAnd an average of 24 pts per game.
CMON Cable!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Never mind. I think that if the WR’s are not prominent in the passing game, you really don’t have one. That was my complaint about Kiffin.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:54 am
hey kell. how’s the safeway deli treatin ya?
June 25th, 2009 at 10:54 am
OAK,
That’s what I told everyone, he made great catches at SDSU!! The kid can play!
SnB,
LBs are just as good as their D line, and hours has been bad for a few years.
I can’t blame Kirk when he is blocked by a G or T!!! Soft D Iine!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:57 am
The ladies behind the counter take real good care of me. I’ll stop by after the gym.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Ours , sorry.
Kirk is good MLB, I would say top 10 MLB!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:58 am
I think Chaz Schilens will have a season that looks soemthing like this: 50 catches, 700 yards, 7 TD’s
June 25th, 2009 at 11:00 am
KK,
I expect the WRs to get their looks this year, picking up from where we left off last year. I think Chaz will get 5 or 6 catches per game, JLH will get5 or 6 balls thrown his way, and DHB will certainly be going deep 3 or 4 times per game.
That’s why I say that Russell HAS to throw the ball 25-30 times a game for this offense to reach it’s potential.
June 25th, 2009 at 11:01 am
KK,
You are in better shape than I’m!!! That’s sad for me, since you are 26 years older than me!!!
Good for you sir.
June 25th, 2009 at 11:01 am
I think Zach Miller will have a season that looks something like this: 80 catches, 1000 yards, 5 TD’s
June 25th, 2009 at 11:02 am
I think Chaz will get 5 or 6 catches per game, JLH will get5 or 6 balls thrown his way, and DHB will certainly be going deep 3 or 4 times per game.
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you left out the #1 WR – Javon Walker
June 25th, 2009 at 11:02 am
The offense rises or falls based on Cable’s playcalling. He’s got to call the right plays that set up players to take advantage of their skillsets.
If he calls a conservative and predictable game plan…the team won’t win…he’s got to be aggressive throwing the football and let Russell’s arm get some real work.
Plan for 25 to 30 passes a game. Period. Not run (8 men in box), run (8 men in box), pass (Dime Coverage), and expect anything different then punt on 4th down.
June 25th, 2009 at 11:03 am
I need to to to the gym, they have good smoothies there!!! lol
June 25th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Raider O
It’s good to have physical excersise incorporated in your lifestyle, throughout your life. Don’t wait.
June 25th, 2009 at 11:08 am
O,
The part your missing about Kirk is if his instincts were better, he would anticipate angles and holes and not allow a slow ass G to get on top of him FIVE YARDS DOWN THE FIELD!
Why is Kirk not at the LOS scrimmage or in the backfield? He lines up 5 yards off the ball, and gets blocked where he lines up. Why is he not moving downhill, or towards the LOS at the snap of the ball?
Not aggressive enough at all!
June 25th, 2009 at 11:08 am
I think Chaz will AVG 4 catches a game this year, and no more. We are going to run the ball, and JR will throw to Miller, JLH, and DMC.
4 catches a game is 64 catches for the season. I think he will get 60+ catches for 800+ yards.
Miller will have 80+ catches for a 1000 yards.
JR will have a good year. IMHO
June 25th, 2009 at 11:13 am
KK,
I know you are right, I used to feel much better when I workedout. Mentally also!
June 25th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Why is Kirk not at the LOS scrimmage or in the backfield? He lines up 5 yards off the ball, and gets blocked where he lines up. Why is he not moving downhill, or towards the LOS at the snap of the ball?
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To anticipate which hole the RB is going to try to hit, I think come with experience and the abilty to read real well. I saw Ronnie Lott do that for us when he was here. He had a lot of experience.
June 25th, 2009 at 11:15 am
I think Chaz will be the #1 WR on this team, and if he only averages 4 catches a game, we are doomed. It means more of the same stuff we saw last year instead of opening up the playbook. I would like to see our #1 WR have to 8-10 catch games. Passes to DMac should be set up instead of run as a standard. Those plays to DMac should be for BIG gains or TDs.
June 25th, 2009 at 11:19 am
I agree with the experience take …
But at the same time, some players simply have a “nose for the ball” and I just don’t see that in Kirk 5 years into it.
I see it Ricky Brown though.
I’m not even saying that I expect Kirk to be superman. I would even be ok with him getting blocked if it were closer to the LOS, or in a potential hole. He just doesn’t seem to flow to the ball well, and him running around guys opens up RIDICULOUS sut back lanes.
June 25th, 2009 at 11:19 am
I would like to see our #1 WR have to 8-10 catch games.
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8 catches in 16 games is 128 receptions!
I’d be surprised if any WR on this team even sniffed half that many (64)
We’ll see a lot of passes to the RB’s, FB’s and TE’s
June 25th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Z Miller will make the PB this year!!
Gonzo is gone, so that leaves Gates , and D Clark as the top guys to compete with.
June 25th, 2009 at 11:25 am
I didn’t mean avg 8-10 catches RRS, but I do want to see some of those types of games from Chaz.
Will his # get called that many times? That’s the great mystery for me this season.
June 25th, 2009 at 11:25 am
some players simply have a “nose for the ball” and I just don’t see that in Kirk 5 years into it.
I see it Ricky Brown though.
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Me too. Ricky Brown is a tackling machine. He’s fearless and he’s all about heart and effort. sort of like Frantz Joseph, only faster and without the sob story … not the most athletic guy in the world, but he makes up for it with toughness
Brown is 1 year younger and 5 pounds lighter than Capt Kirk. plus he’s not as quick or good in coverage. If Marshall wants a MLB to cover a TE or RB’s out of the backfield Kirk is your man. If he wants a MLB to play downhill and crash into gaps to create a loss on the play then Ricky is your man. totally different players imo
June 25th, 2009 at 11:27 am
I agree RR, I can’t see any WR on our team having over 100 catches.
Milker: 80+ catches for 1000 yards
Chaz: 60+ catches for 800+ yards
JLH: 40-50 catches for 600 yards
DMC: 40-50 catches for 500 yards
That’s 2900 yards, and what about DHB, Walker, Murphy, Bush, and the FBs????
How many yards do you think JR will throw? More than 3000- 3500 yards????????
We are going to run the Ball too, how many yards will we have on offense???
No WR on the Raiders will AVG 8-10 catches per game!
June 25th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Morrison isn’t the only one who needs to step it up.
How about Thomas Howard? Again, another cover 1st linebacker that needs to make his living on the opponents side of the line as well.
If anyone benefits from a change in coaching it could be this guy. HOW IN THE WORLD DOES THIS GUY ONLY HAVE TWO….TWO….YES JUST TWO….FREEKN CAREER SACKS
Marshall’s primary responsibility is to get this guy involved in the defense!
June 25th, 2009 at 11:30 am
RR,
You know how I feel about Frant!!
Should I say it again?
June 25th, 2009 at 11:32 am
You know how I feel about Frantz!!
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your BFF?
June 25th, 2009 at 11:34 am
fukking fargas!!
hi everybody long time no posts…. whats up?
June 25th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Our TE should not have 80 catches this year! And 40-50 for DMac? That’s insane and a true recipe for disaster. By comparison, Darren Sproles had 29 cathces last year, and Gates had 60 catches! I don’t know why you guys think Al would have brought in Cable to run this dink and dunk offense to the RBs and TEs. I refuse to believe that is what we are looking at.
If so, top 5 pick in the draft again next year.
June 25th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Another good take SnB.
With Howard’s skill set, there is no way he shouldn’t have 8-10 sacks each year. But he can’t do that as a part of the back 7.
June 25th, 2009 at 11:36 am
RR,
lol I wish!!! But he doesn’t like sand football!! Too bad, we could have been BFF.
June 25th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Morrison isn’t the only one who needs to step it up.
How about Thomas Howard?
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Howard has all the tools at weak side linebacker to be a stinkin’ monster! Again, why did Rob Ryan have all our talented LB’s in coverage? these guys should have been knocking the p1ss out of RB’s! I think the Marshall plan will work wonders for guys like the DT’s, LB’s and safeties who have all been trashed and blamed for the run defense that Ryan installed 5 years ago …
June 25th, 2009 at 11:39 am
LMN,
Nice to have you back!!!
Where have you been bro, are you married now?
June 25th, 2009 at 11:42 am
But he doesn’t like sand football!! Too bad, we could have been BFF.
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who says Frantz doesn’t like the sand?
He came from Florida Atlantic University. They don’t have beaches in Boca Raton?
might as well call Frantz the sand man. haha
June 25th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Raider O…
Hell no!
i’ve been working dayshifts and half nightshifts because my colleagues have their vacation right now…
June 25th, 2009 at 11:46 am
oh yeah and i had some birdflu, but no-one could cover me at work, so i had to go, it was really annoying =)
June 25th, 2009 at 11:46 am
wb LMN…
I thought maybe Bobby had his janitor boyfriend write Jerry Mac a complaint letter about you and got you a temp ban or something?
glad to know you’re working hard and getting paid for some OT!
June 25th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Jerry Mac wont ban me, ive tried everything to get banned =) LOL nothing works….
yeah, and the dayshift and writing here just dont mingle, so it had to wait till i got home, but by then i was wasted, damn tired, but it should start to go back to normal from now on
June 25th, 2009 at 11:56 am
bird flu. huh?
what that like?
didn’t they declare that a “pandemic” or something?
June 25th, 2009 at 11:56 am
How about the safety play on this Raider team…
Do the safeties ever make an appearance in the game. Rashad Baker’s pick in the Tampa game is one of the few plays I’ve seen from the safety position. I think Wilson had an INT in the end zone against the Jets….The Safeties have to make their prescence known in at least one area.
Either be ball hawking cover men like Ed Reed and Troy Paulomalu….or be head hunters like a Brian Dawkins (in his day)….the safeties need to distinguish themselves in at least ONE area.
Where’s the signature hit that changes the tempo of the game…..then when you add two shutdown corners…it becomes even more perplexing why our safeties are just uncontrolled free lancers that are getting picks and making hits….
I look forward to seeing how Marshall uses the safety position….Hell, with man 2 man bump and run on the outside…our safeties should be able to relieve Morrison and Howard of “some” of their coverage responsibilities and let then get at the QB
June 25th, 2009 at 11:59 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
June 25th, 2009 at 11:56 am
bird flu. huh?
what that like?
didn’t they declare that a “pandemic” or something?
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well not exactly bird flu as much as flu =) though the day i got sick a crazy pigeon flew right into my head…
June 25th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
RR,
No!!!! I’m the Sand man, he’s just a wanna be!! lol
LMN,
I’m glad you’re feeling better, we missed you bro.
I know Dakota really missed you, the 1st few days were really hard on him. lol
June 25th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
a crazy pigeon flew right into my head…
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are you kidding me?
Euros got crazy bird probs man!
didn’t you tell us that you saved a swan last month too?
ungreatful fouls! Just for that I’m having chicken for dinner!
June 25th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
I always knew LMN was “birdbrained”!
rimshot
June 25th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
naaaaaawwwwww poor dakota, well im here now, so now he finally can vent out all his rage to the part of the world that DOES work =)
June 25th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
No!!!! I’m the Sand man, he’s just a wanna be!! lol
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come on O, don’t be jealous.
Frantz said if this football thing doesn’t work out he’s gonna pursue a career in volleyball. He also has a cookie obsession with pecan sandies
it’s obvious you’re no match for the REAL sandman …
June 25th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
LMN: I must admit, America is a very fat nation …
we have shows out like ‘the biggest loser’ and ‘more to love’ for a reason!
fat people can relate to other fat people. haha
June 25th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
RRS…
well we have tons of pigeons here in the city, hate’em, flying rats as we call them, but im sure the city wont kill them because that means they need to hire 2-300 sanitation-men…..
June 25th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
LMN:
does anybody hunt duck, pheasant, quail or dove there?
June 25th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Who is going to be the SLB this year? I am not terribly excited about the prospect of Jon Alston or Ricky Brown. They have great attitudes and work ethic to be sure….but can one of these guys contain the outside runs and QB bootlegs?
Are any of them good enough and physical enough to be that hard hitter against the run game?
I figure that Alston will be decent in coverage, but Alston concerns me…is he just another SPEED guy???….as for Brown….I can’t get that image out of my head of Joe Flacco beating deep.
Slade Norris??? Going to have to wait till camp…I am not convinced he makes the team….
Anyway…all three linebacking positions leave a lot of question marks….
June 25th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
RRS…
yeah of course, when its season for such things…
June 25th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
RR,
LMAO @ 1175 & 1176.
June 25th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Jerry,
We need a new fix, a good reporter creates his own news!!! Or so it seems!! lol
June 25th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
LMN,
RR is a Rep, shoot 1st ask later!!! lol
June 25th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Raider O…
well the idea of seasons is so you dont kill some animal that then leaves young at home… I believe both Reps and Dems like that idea….
June 25th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
LMN,LMN,LMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Hey brother!!
Double R,
Brown is 1 year younger and 5 pounds lighter than Capt Kirk. plus he’s not as quick or good in coverage. If Marshall wants a MLB to cover a TE or RB’s out of the backfield Kirk is your man. If he wants a MLB to play downhill and crash into gaps to create a loss on the play then Ricky is your man. totally different players imo
GREAT POST!!!!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
hey OAKlifer!
June 25th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
hmmm well, I guess i better go down to the italiens and get a sandwich or something, late dinner is better than NO dinner =) LOL
see ya, ill be back when Jerry pulls out his finger =)
June 25th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
LMN,
Dems yes, but Reps I’m not so sure.
Reps do it, so they can keep hunting, you can’t hunt if the animal is Extinct!!!! lol
June 25th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Enjoy your dinner LMN.
June 25th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Jerry Mac…
We all realize that we are in the dog days of the off- season, and the any breaking news on our Raiders is unlikely until after Al celebrates his birthday next week, and starts to get the draft picks signed.
So, in lieu of any news, how about throwing some “pie” against the wall. We need a FIX.
June 25th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
[...] Many unanswered questions for the Raiders right now, including what to do with one of my favorite forgotten running backs in the league, Michael Bush. Let Justin Fargas enjoy “turkey bags” with Yukmouth all day and all night, Bush is the one who should get every carry Darren McFadden doesn’t. (Inside the Oakland Raiders) [...]
June 25th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
I figure that Alston will be decent in coverage, but Alston concerns me…is he just another SPEED guy???….as for Brown….I can’t get that image out of my head of Joe Flacco beating deep.
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S&B: sure. not just Ricky Brown, but the entire Raiders defense got beat on a TRICK play. It’s not like Brown or anybody else knew Flacco was a receiver on the play from the get go. Joe ran a 4.9 forty, so it’s obvious he doesn’t have “Raider speed” like most everybody else on our defense. He took the snap, remember?
June 25th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
busy busy…man work calls sometimes!!! LMN good to hear from ya hope my uncle Luigi fixes you up good!!!
LATER NATION and remeber!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!!raider on brothers!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
see ya OAKlifer. have a great day bro!
June 25th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
LMN, you got hit in the head by a bird??!!!!!
Who do you think you are Fabio?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7w4dpxgSWA
LOL
June 25th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
LMN = Fabio?
LOL
I can’t beleive it’s not butter!
June 25th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Is anyone else having issues with the video from NFL.com? I can’t get the video to actually load. Just a message saying video loading.
June 25th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
LAKERS FUKIN RULE!!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Come on Warriors, get Amare Stoudemire…I certainly don’t want Houston to get him!
Orlando got Vince Carter.
Cleve got Shaq.
Spurs got Richard Jefferson.
Lakers better re-sign Ariza and Odom and hope Bynum rebounds from his injury if they want to repeat.
June 25th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
jhill Says:
June 25th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Our TE should not have 80 catches this year! And 40-50 for DMac? That’s insane and a true recipe for disaster. By comparison, Darren Sproles had 29 cathces last year, and Gates had 60 catches! I don’t know why you guys think Al would have brought in Cable to run this dink and dunk offense to the RBs and TEs. I refuse to believe that is what we are looking at.
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I think the TE getting 80 is okay as long as at least 1 receiver is in the 70+ catch area. As for DMAC, anytime he touches the ball is an opportunity to score. No shame in getting him the ball, even if its dink and dunk.
But your point is well taken. Tom Cable has to attack this year…no more passive stuff
June 25th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Michael Jackson had a heart attack.
June 25th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 25th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
I figure that Alston will be decent in coverage, but Alston concerns me…is he just another SPEED guy???….as for Brown….I can’t get that image out of my head of Joe Flacco beating deep.
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S&B: sure. not just Ricky Brown, but the entire Raiders defense got beat on a TRICK play. It’s not like Brown or anybody else knew Flacco was a receiver on the play from the get go. Joe ran a 4.9 forty, so it’s obvious he doesn’t have “Raider speed” like most everybody else on our defense. He took the snap, remember?
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True, I guess I was a little negative with that post. But that doesn’t change the fact that the SLB position is a BIG question mark. A very big ?. The only thing the Raiders did to upgrade the SLB was draft Slade Norris
June 25th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Michael Jackson was rushed to the hospital, he wasn’t breathing and people were performing CPR on him…I have a joke about his nose and CPR, but I better wait at least 1 hour.
June 25th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Michael Jackson is only 50 years old, and has zero body fat…hmmm, do you think prescription medications might be involved?
June 25th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
S&B: maybe Capt Kirk should have noticed 2 QB’s were on the field and called an audible?
we all know RR loves prevent defense. That would have been the perfect time for it!
…but then Troy Smith probably would have ran for 43 yards anyways. haha
June 25th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
do you think prescription medications might be involved?
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no. i think a little boy finally faught back!
June 25th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Michael Jackson is dead. Rest in hell you freak.
June 25th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
“WHAT WE DON’T KNOW…”
When Jerry is going to post again! Its a bi-otch to scroll all this **** just to post. How bout a “go to top/bottom of page button please?
Brown got scorched by a QUARTERBACK. That was ugly. I think he’ll play this year until he gets hurt cuz he’s too small and then we’ll have questions again.
We were doing alright in that game but yeah, a couple of ding dong plays and suddenly we’re out of it.
Drag.
Alot closer in last years losses than many realize cuz they NEVER saw the games.
This teams go the peices to compete. Thats no lie…
P.S.
Fuk Micheal Jackson. You don’t pay some kid $10 million for no reason. You use that moeny to exhonerate yourself.
The ****er ought to be a cath- olic preist.
I swear, the BS this country condones…
June 25th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 25th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
S&B: maybe Capt Kirk should have noticed 2 QB’s were on the field and called an audible?
we all know RR loves prevent defense. That would have been the perfect time for it!
…but then Troy Smith probably would have ran for 43 yards anyways. haha
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Have no illusions, many many many of our defensive F ups and ultimate losses where his fault directly. Either over pursued/bad reads and equally bad audibles.
No **** about Troy Smith. I ain’t lyin’ when I say that guy is going to make some team very very happy. He’s just that good.
I could give a rip about his Flutie like stature, the kid is smart, tough and can play the quarterback position.
June 25th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Brown got scorched by a QUARTERBACK. That was ugly. I think he’ll play this year until he gets hurt cuz he’s too small and then we’ll have questions again.
We were doing alright in that game but yeah, a couple of ding dong plays and suddenly we’re out of it.
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the offense was pathetic in that game. please don’t blame Ricky Brown for that trick play. at least he recognized the QB sprinting down the sideline! I didn’t see any DB’s trying to help Ricky in coverage. He had a groin injury last year. Does that make him injury prone? I don’t think so … that injury has nothing to do with being undersized
June 25th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
see you fellas tomorrow!
June 25th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
tmz.com is reporting that the pedophile is dead.
No confirmation from any of the L.A. news sources or from any national sources. CNN, FOX. etc.
June 25th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Michael Jackson is alive, he is fishing with Elvis in the Bahamas.
June 25th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Yeah, but what about the defensive ends? The Raiders have a penchant for focusing on speedy pass rushers that are not known for being very physical. Last year the Raiders had Burgess and Kalimba Edwards manning the edges. That didn’t work out too well.
If the DEs get run over or easily pushed out of the way…things are going to go very badly for the rest of the defense.
And then with all that focus on speed…the Raiders didn’t have one player go over 5 sacks????!!!?? So, no bulk and no sacks…What’s the point?
Hopefully Ellis can be that everydown End and Scott gained enough weight
June 25th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
And the Defensive Tackles. The Raiders have a couple of big guys…but they don’t play big. But they sure are paid big….all 3 of the Raiders “soft-touch” tackles are paid in the top 20% of their position. Warren and Kelly are top 10% in pay. CAN ANYONE SUGGEST THEIR PLAY IS TOP 50%???????
Anyone…and I mean ANYONE…who excuses their poor performances week in and week out doesn’t watch the games. Warren and Sands are hardly a force in the middle…with Kelly they rarely collapse the pocket and are a consistent force.
They also disappear for entire games…and their inability to force double teams and be disruptive has hurt the performance of the rest of the defense.
This year the Raiders will be facing BIGGER O-LINES, BIGGER Running Backs, AND teams that will run 1st and pass 2nd.
They better be ready to roll!
June 25th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
L.A. Times has confirmed, the freak is dead.
A special place in hell awaits.
June 25th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
What about all the freaks who made the freak? How old was he when Diana Ross slept with him for the first time?
If ever there was an example of a childhood lost, it was this guy.
June 25th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Other than Nnamdi….everyone on that defense has to step up their games big-time
June 25th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
WHAT??? has Michael Jackson ever slept with a woman?? I dont believe it…
but hey, he was a great white pop-star =) LOL may he RIP
June 25th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
I feel much better about the offense than I do the defense going into the season.
Hopefully Russell, Schilens, JLH, Miller, DMAC and Bush are working on that timing like they said.
If DHB, Murphy or Walker can make it than that would be nice too. Not required…but still nice altogether
June 25th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
ESPN SportsCenter about to do another piece on JaMarcus Russell
June 25th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Not much of a piece…just Clayton saying he needs to improve his accuracy to lead..
June 25th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
SnB, I agree about the offense. They have potential anyway.
If they can piece together a cohesive OL and avoid injuries they should be fun to watch.
I’m taking a wait and see attitude on the D.
June 25th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
RIP Wacko Jacko
June 25th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Scratch that, RIHELL u dirty child m@lester!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Will Rome still use the adult alarm, now that Jacko is gone?
MACULLEY!!!!!!!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
God Bless You MJ, and RIP.
June 25th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
The King of Pop, Dead. Tragedy all way round.
June 25th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
RIP MJ, wish it was AD.
June 25th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
I’m telling you people: when AD dies, the Raiders as we knew them will die with him.
June 25th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
I like Al a lot, and I appreciate everything he did for the Raiders, AFL, and the NFL.
Long live Al!!!!!
Al!!!!
Al!!!!
Al!!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Raider O,
If Al Davis, or any business leader, wants to keep the legacy after they move on…he should be developing General Manager talent within his organization that believes in his philosophy.
Look at the Steelers…I hate saying that…but there is an organization that has developed a culture that has lasted beyond the owner
June 25th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
yeah a culture of bribery and pay-offs
June 25th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
SnB,
I agree, but not about the Steelers!!
June 25th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
I’m with you Mr. Paine. Well said, old chap! As for your comment Mr. Raider O, some of us believe that that’s exactly what needs to happen.
June 25th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
SnB Defense Says:
June 25th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Raider O,
If Al Davis, or any business leader, wants to keep the legacy after they move on…he should be developing General Manager talent within his organization that believes in his philosophy.
Look at the Steelers…I hate saying that…but there is an organization that has developed a culture that has lasted beyond the owner
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Couldn’t agree more, on both points.
June 25th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
The Steelers are the perfect example of how the Raiders could be. Small-market, family owned dynasty. Identified with power and resolve.
June 25th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
I’m glad jackson passed he was a washed up sicko and guy has been friends with little boys since 77 what normal guy does this ?
June 25th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
I just heard a story about sponsership on practice jerseys. I never liked Nike or anything else on playing jerseys. My first authentic Raiders jersy had just added the NFL symbol on the end of the V of the V neck. I was sick I didn’t get on the year before. By the way in the 90s I got one under $50 back in the 90s. I would rather see sponsership on the suits of the Congessmen & Senators, who’s owned by Phiser/Etna/Exxon? Like a Nascar body, it would make it easier to vote.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Don’t know if this has been posted already but Nnamdi had a live chat with NFL and here it is. Hope you enjoy it!
Ask Nnamdi Asomugha
Moderator Image 12:15 PM – 01:00 PM ETNnamdi Asomugha 34 comments
Oakland Raiders Pro Bowl cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha chatted live with NFL Nation on Thursday, June 25, dishing his thoughts on the Raiders this season, his NFL influences, the toughest receivers in the league and Kobe vs. Jordan.
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NFL.com
Hello NFL Nation. We’ve got Nnamdi ready to chat with you in just a minute. Thanks for sending in all your questions — some great stuff today.
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
Hey everyone. The season is just around the corner, and we’ve got some exciting things that are happening. I’m looking forward to this chat — let’s get started.
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Greg S., L.A.
03:28 PM ET
I recently read that you said you were colorblind. How does that affect your play on the field?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
I’m partially colorblind. It was determined when I was about 7 years old. It’s never really affected my play on the field — I can easily distinguish between light and dark colors. I only have trouble between similar colors — the light ones. They look the same to me. No problems on the field.
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Joey, Boston
03:30 PM ET
How is Jamarcus progressing and what do you think about Heyward-Bey?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
I think he’s been doing fairly well. The fact that Jeff Garcia is in there and there’s a lot of hype around him, that will prove helpful for JaMarcus. I think competition can go two ways — it can motivate a person or they will crumble — he has the type of attitude that will help him rise to the occassion.
Heyward-Bey is a rookie. We don’t need him to come in and be Randy Moss his rookie year. We just want him to come in and be a threat and help us out any way he can his first year. I think he’s been doing well so far, but he hasn’t practice much because of his hamstring injury. We’ll see more of him at training camp.
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Davidicus Lastis, San Fransisco, CA
03:33 PM ET
Who do think will have a breakout year for the Raiders this year?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
On offense, I would say one of our RBs — one of the trio we have — will have a breakout year. I think we’re going to have a strong year running the ball, and the guy who gets the majority of carries could have a big year. On defense, so far in camps this offseason Michael Huff has really been having a great offseason thus far. I know it’s a critical year for him, and I can see him making a jump.
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Nathaniel Adams, Campo, CA
03:35 PM ET
Were the Raiders your favorite team growing up, and if they weren’t, who was?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
They were Nathaniel, because I was from LA, and I had to chose between them and the Rams. During the late 1980s there was the whole hip-hop movement, and it gravitated towards the Raiders. And the genesis was LA. All the artists wore Raiders gear, and it made representing the Raiders cool. So I joined that whole movement. And the Lions, too, because of Barry Sanders.
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Josiah , Mission Viejo, CA
03:38 PM ET
Love seeing you on NFL Network. You’re an extremely interesting and intelligent guy, do you think you have some commentating in your future?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
First of all, the main reason that I try to get on the Network as much as possible, not only do I live in LA, and the Network is in LA, but I rarely see Raiders on the Network! I’m trying to help bring back some familiarity with the team in LA.
I see commentating in my future, but I haven’t really narrowed it down to just that. There are a lot of avenues I’m testing out right now. But I’m focusing on football while I’m in the NFL.
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Jesse Patterson, Santa Barbara, CA
03:41 PM ET
I recently read that you still drive a Nissan Maxima (Gold I think). That’s awesome! I drive a 1993 Toyota pick-up with 190,000 miles on it. People tell me to upgrade already, but I say “NO WAY!” You want to race sometime? Loser buys lunch.
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
Jesse, you do let me know if you want to race sometime. I do still have that Maxima!
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Doug, Nashville, TN
03:42 PM ET
With all of the turmoil over the last few years, how are the older players responding to Coach Cable?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
I think the older veterans are responding fairly well to Cable. He had to take over the team midway through the season last year, so we didn’t get to see him in the scope that we’re seeing him in now and when the season starts. So it’s good to get an idea of how well guys respond to him when he’s the captain of the ship from Day 1.
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owen , calgary
03:44 PM ET
hello nnamdi, who is the toughest receiver to cover in the nfl? i appreciate your work as a cornerback!
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
Hey Owen. I can think of a handful of guys that have been tough to cover during my career, but on a consistent basis, it would probably be Randy Moss, just because I had to see him every single day in practice for two years. That was always a battle.
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Jeremy mills, Seattle, WA
03:48 PM ET
how annoyed do you get when people miss spell your name?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
I get more annoyed when it’s misspelled than when it’s mis-pronounced. You can just go to the Raiders web sit or NFL.com and know how to spell it. That one you don’t get a pass on! But when you mis-pronounce it, that can get a little tricky.
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kolby, kansas
03:49 PM ET
who was your favorite player growing up?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
My favorite player, as far as an athlete, was Magic Johnson. My favorite NFL players were Barry Sanders and Deion Sanders. Then … my favorite all-time Raider — that’s Marcus Allen.
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Joel, Seattle
03:51 PM ET
Nnamdi, ok in all honesty, how would you compare yourself with Deion in his prime? Do you think you’re at that level?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
That’s a great question Joel. Even if I’m at that level now, I don’t know if I’ll ever see myself as being at that level. What Deion was to the cornerback position, was what made my transition from safety to corner more inviting.
It’s tough for me to even put my name along side a guy like him. We’ve equally had success shutting down the top WRs in our respective times, but he did so many other things that made him a threat. He returned punts, he returned kicks, and any time he touched the ball on defense he was a threat to score. So when it comes to shutting down top WRs, I’m flattered by the comparison. When it comes to turning a mistake by the other team into pts for your team, he and guys like Rod Woodson are in a class of their own.
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Charlie Lee, Las Vegas,NV
03:57 PM ET
How much did Charles Woodson help you to become a better coner?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
The funny thing is, I didn’t learn much directly from Charles until 2005, when I became a starter. The thing about Charles was that you had to show you were serious about the game and make some serious strides before he took you on and said, “OK, let’s go to work.”
Once 2005 started, and until today, he’s given me whatever tips he’s had on receivers, offenses, how to play with swagger, how to play with confidence, how to play aggressive. I’ve learned all those things from him. But, they didn’t come until I was able to show I really wanted this.
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Kyle Jensen, Reno, Nevada
04:00 PM ET
Hi Nnamdi! What are some hobbies you have and what do you like to do in the offseason to relax?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
I’m a huge movie buff, and I can listen to music any hour of the day. Movies and music are mainstays for me. I love to travel, too. I love to just go places I’ve never been before and see random things I’ve only heard about in books and movies. I’m strange in the fact that I love plane rides and plane food and just getting up and going and kind of living outside of myself for a period of time.
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David, Ireland
04:02 PM ET
How did you show to Charles Woodson that you really were serious about playing and really wanted it?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
I have a mantra that I live by, and it’s “practice how you play.” I’ve always practiced with intensity just to make the game easier. Those things don’t go unnoticed. There were times when it was late, and he’d walk by the meeting room after lifting weights, and he’d see me in there taking notes. That had a profound impact on him. He took notice and saw how serious I was.
I thank him to this day for that. He’s a hard shell to crack, but once you crack it he has a wealth of knowledge.
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Chris, Charlotte, NC
04:05 PM ET
Nnamdi- Your cover game is sick. However, does the fact that you are a big corner create any disadvantages for you at the position in certain situations?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
Chris, there are many disadvantages. As many advantages as it has, there are disadvantages too. It depends on how hard you work on them during the offseason that will determine how good you are at hiding them.
I have very long legs and a small torso, so I can’t get up and get down quickly at corner. I work at it all the time during the offseason. People tell me after watching film I look good at it and you can’t tell. They have no idea how tough it is for me.
If you don’t work on your imperfections, they will become glaring. I just continue to work on that.
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David, Ireland
04:08 PM ET
Hey Nnamdi, i know its great that you can make the quarterback stay away from the receiver you are covering but dont you get frustrated with the lack of interceptions or deflections?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
OK, let’s be honest. We all want the ball in our hands at some point. And we all want a chance to showcase what we can do with the ball. So it can be frustrating. You know there are other ways you can help your team. But if my play is good enough to give the rest of the defense flexibility in their coverages, then I can’t be too opposed to the fact I’m getting the job done in my own quiet way.
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Jebb Bingham, Oregon
04:11 PM ET
There has been alot of changes this year, obviously. How big is it that we ended last season on a high note winning the final two games? Can you give me a prediction for this season?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
A lot of people have really been viewing that as our fuel for this season. In our situation, you take fuel wherever you can get it. But for me, I know that every season is different. You have new players, you have new coaches, and you’re playing aganist new players and new coaches.
What we have to do with last season is throw it off the books. We have to figure out a way to do what we did in those last few games of the season consistently throughout 16 games this year and not dwell in the past — but live in the present.
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Ryan, South Dakota
04:15 PM ET
Where did you get your sweet name from!
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
I’m Nigerian, and it’s a fairly common name in Nigeria.
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Tyrone , Miami,FL
04:16 PM ET
What are your thoughts on Andre Johnson? Is he one of the better WRs you”ve faced? What makes him so difficult to cover?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
He’s easily one of the better receivers I’ve faced. He’s difficult because he’s big, strong and fast and fearless. That’s a lethal combination, and it’s rare. I know every time I have to play him, I’m studying and working non-stop the entire week.
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Dale, Lexington, Ky
04:18 PM ET
What’s your favorite sport other than football?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
That’s basketball, without question. Basketball was my sport, my ONLY sport. I only got into football because my older brother was playing it, and I wanted to do whatever he was doing growing up. So I started playing it. But basketball was my first love, and there’s no greater team in NBA history than the LA Lakers!
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Zack, Chicago Midway, IL
04:21 PM ET
How has practicing against Randy Moss affected your playing level?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
Let’s talk about the individuals I have been blessed to work with to help me get to the level I am right now.
To name a few, start with the receivers I’ve gone against every day, like Jerry Rice, Tim Brown and Randy Moss. And then the defensive backs I’ve played with and/or have learned from include Willie Brown, Ronnie Lott, Rod Woodson and Charles Woodson.
Anytime that you’re surrounded by that nucleus of football talent and knowledge, if you don’t soak in all that you can get, you’re in the wrong business. It continues to impace my level of play, not to mention all the others. But to answer your question — it’s not just Moss. I’ve been blessed with an interesting group in my career.
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Nate, Seattle, WA
04:25 PM ET
Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson catch the ball at the 5 with only you between them and a touchdown. Who has the best chance of scoring?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
Oh wow. That is an amazing question, because they are all three so similar yet so different. Why don’t I ponder about that, and get back to you later … HA!
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Simon, QC, Canada
04:26 PM ET
What do you think is the most important attribute a CB must have?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
It would be mental toughness. In no other position on the field, besides QB, can you be so exposed. If you don’t have the mental capacity to take the good with the bad, you will be defeated.
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bigjayboogie, So Cal
04:30 PM ET
Nnamdi…in your real honest opinion….are we a playoff team right now by your estimation.
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
Yes. To go from 5-11 and then make the playoffs the following year is not an easy task, but it’s do-able. But much of that won’t be determined until we put on pads and play a couple of preseason games. So much about making the playoffs is determined on how well the teams in your division do. And I think we have a good chance this year to be in the forefront of our division, which would lead to the playoffs.
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Oscar, Los Angeles
04:35 PM ET
Kobe Bryant or Michael Jordan?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
Oh boy! First of all, I love the fearlessness in that question. I’ll give you an honest, unbiased answer, and I’m taking all arguments. I think, right now, they are at the same level. When Kobe is done, he should be considered slightly above MJ. I know that it’s against the law, pretty much, to say that anything is above Jordan. But let’s be honest, we’re all watching the same games. Kobe has now equaled Jordan on less talented teams.
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Rik, Tampa , Fl
04:40 PM ET
Hey Nnamdi , I was just curious as to who is tougher to guard , a big physical receiver or a quicker speedier guy ? Any examples ?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
They’re very equal challanges, because you use different parts of your game to go against them. It’s not really tougher or easier. It’s just digging into a different arsenal that you have.
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Brian, Toronto On, Canada
04:43 PM ET
Although Chad Ochocinco had a terrible year last year by his standards. He is still a top reciever in the NFL, what makes it so hard to cover him? I am actually curious.
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
I think with Chad, when a guy is difficult to cover, there is something rare and unique about him. Otherwise he would be just a clone in the league. With Chad, the rarity is he’s a bigger sized receiver that can play small. That’s an interesting combination. Rarely do you say there is a big receiver who is as quick as a small receiver. I think that’s his gift. He’s able to get in and out of breaks just like the smaller, quicker receivers, and that’s rare for a guy of his stature.
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A.J., Copenhagen, Denmark
04:47 PM ET
Are you aware of how much respect and love the Raider Nation has for you? Does that play into how you conduct yourself on and off the field?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
I love the Raider Nation. These are a group of people that understand the concept of tough love. I remember when I first came into the league and things weren’t going so well for me. I have definitely had my share of booes and nay-sayers, especially during my early years, but through all of that, they were still supportive and hoping for the best for me.
I see that play out now that I’ve had some success in the NFL, because fans come up to me all the time and tell me how inspiring my story is, because it’s like they lived it along with me. I definitely feel the respect The Nation has for me as I go about my craft.
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Antonio, Kelseyville, CA
04:59 PM ET
what is you favorite music to listen to before a game?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
I’m all over the place when it comes to music before a game. It really just depends on the mood I’m in. I can listen to anything from hip-hop to R&B to jazz to gospel to alternative. There’s really no telling! It just depends on how I feel. If you looked at my Ipod before a game, some games you would be like “What in the world are you listening to?!?”
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Hooman, Amsterdam, Holland
05:02 PM ET
Nnamdi when are you going to let your afro grow back? Us Raider fans in Holland loved your hair.. you are the Greatest corner period…
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
I’m thinking of going retro in 2010, and it might be the return of the ‘fro. I think the last time I had it was the offseason of 2007. So I think a three year hiatus is about long enough. Maybe I should rock a flat top? Let me know your thoughts!
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Jason, San Francisco
05:06 PM ET
Nnamdi – how could you possibly say Kobe slightly over MJ? Jordan was still a better overall player… the only thing Kobe does better is the 3 ball. Thats it! Jordan all day! Now that you’ve mentioned all the greats you’ve played against… do you think DHB has chance in the league. There seems to be A LOT of doubters…
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
I’m sorry. Let’s discuss this for a second. We all know how great Jordan is. You said the only thing that Kobe has on MJ is the three ball? So now let me reverse the question — what does MJ have on Kobe besides two rings? All things being equal, Kobe and MJ are similar, but Kobe has a better three-ball. You figure it out LOL!
Don’t get mesmerized by the Jordan brand and Nike, McDonalds, Space Jam and all things Jordan. Let’s just think basketball.
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
Thanks everybody for the questions, I loved the randomness. We have to do this again. I have to go for now, but I hope you’re as excited for the season as I am.
Until next time.
Nnamdi.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Ohio,
AD will die ( One Day, not Soon lol), and you and others will get your wish.
Just remember bro: Be careful what you wish for!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
People didn’t pronounce my name right, so I used to wish they did.
I haven’t wished for anything since!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
Holy Sux0r Did you yall hear!!! ed mcmahon died!!! anywayz Go RAIDERS!!!! 6-10
June 25th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
I don’t have a problem with Ed or Michael dying but Farrah Fawcett man I have fond memories of rubbing one out to her playboy spread in my tree fort when I was a kid.
June 25th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Man i love big nipple$…and man did she have some
June 26th, 2009 at 1:25 am
MJ and AD,
have made mistakes and one may have commited crimes against kids and if he did he will pay if he already hasn’t.
But when I see people cheering the death of someone or wishing someone was dead. Calling them sicko or any other name, makes me sick and the fact that you think these things causes me to lose the little respect that I might have for you. Hopefully one day the sickness you have will be cured as hopefully whatever sickness the deceased had is cured.
Somethings are too serious to be so silly and frivilously amused by them. Some of you really need to wake up and grow up. The day of death will one day come very close to you and we’ll see just how amused you are when it does.
June 26th, 2009 at 1:33 am
Wishing someone was dead over a sport is as sick as it gets. Whatever Michael Jackson may have done that sickness trumps it.
June 26th, 2009 at 4:00 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
throw us a bone Jerry,lie if you must
June 26th, 2009 at 4:27 am
What’s up fellas damn Im with you 4eva make something up Jerry give us something.
June 26th, 2009 at 4:32 am
yep wish I could’ve moon walked like dat!!! At Motowns 25th Aniversery and he did the Moon-Walk it just blew me away,I sat there astounded
June 26th, 2009 at 4:33 am
like what the hell was that???
June 26th, 2009 at 4:34 am
Morning NMF =)
June 26th, 2009 at 4:37 am
# Raider O Says:
June 25th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
I’m telling you people: when AD dies, the Raiders as we knew them will die with him.
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bwahahahahaha, you mean as a losing team? I dont hope he’ll die, but we can only be better from his departure…
June 26th, 2009 at 4:46 am
YO YO YO !!!
Glad all is well with you LMN!!!Have missed your posts.Ahh I remember the good ‘ole days when you and your fellow brother Dakota would start talkin.I’d run 2 the kitchen and throw a bag of popcorn in the wave and get comfortable =)
And with ALL that over-time money you can by a brand-spanking new Justin Fargas # 25 jersey!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 5:00 am
LOL
June 26th, 2009 at 5:01 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
June 25th, 2009 at 11:34 am
fukking fargas!!
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I felt it was more appropriate to start my first post in a long time with some meaningful substance =) LOL
June 26th, 2009 at 5:03 am
I MUST concur LMN!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 5:25 am
good morning LMN, 4eva, NMF …
June 26th, 2009 at 5:26 am
busy work day today fellas.
came in an hour early so I can leave an hour early.
no new Raider news I take it?
June 26th, 2009 at 5:41 am
These rookies have made a good first impression at offseason camps:
-Raiders WRs Darrius Heyward-Bey and Louis Murphy
Coach Tom Cable believes Heyward-Bey, Oakland’s criticized seventh-overall pick, will be just as effective running intermediate and short routes as he will be using his speed on straight-line go patterns. And Cable also believes Heyward-Bey could have some company at wide receiver with fellow rookie Murphy, a fourth-round pick from Florida.
“He’s probably the surprise of our (rookie) class,” Cable said of Murphy. “He has all the makings to be a very special football player at this level — mainly because he was impressive on a daily basis. We really think we found one.”
That’s great news for the Raiders, who have really struggled on offense in recent years, particularly in the passing game. They’ve finished among the bottom two in passing offense, including last in 2008, the past three seasons. Having two young wideouts and a stable of running backs to grow with quarterback JaMarcus Russell, might actually give the perpetually rebuilding Raiders some optimism for the long-term. Oakland just has to hope the receivers have the mental makeup to match their physical skills.
By Steve Wyche (NFL.com)
June 26th, 2009 at 5:47 am
From Nnamdi’s live chat on NFL.com -
Q: Who do think will have a breakout year for the Raiders this year?
A: On defense, so far in camps this offseason Michael Huff has really been having a great offseason thus far. I know it’s a critical year for him, and I can see him making a jump.
June 26th, 2009 at 5:50 am
Is It Time For The Oakland Raiders To Trade Derrick Burgess?
Derrick Burgess is a former Pro-Bowler and former NFL sack leader, but many speculate his days in Oakland are numbered. This is especially true after the emergence of young pass-rusher Trevor Scott and signing of veteran pass-rusher Greg Ellis. Not to mention the Raiders drafted a few more D-ends in this years draft: Matt Shaunghnessy and Stryker Sulak.
As it stands right now the D-end position for the Oakland Raiders is becoming pretty crowded. Players, namely Burgess, are begining to look expendable.
To make things even worse for him, the Raiders can afford to part ways with a pass rusher. It’s arguably not one of the teams weaknesses. Last year they ranked 13th in sacks with teams rarely throwing against them.
Recent rumors arose of the team shopping around players including Derrick Burgess, but Raider officials have done nothing but deny any interest in trading him.
Whether or not the team has been in negotiations with other teams regarding Burgess, now is the time. Especially now that premier pass-rushers like Greg Ellis, Jason Taylor and Julius Peppers are off the market.
Value for pass rushers is now at an off-season high and there should be many interested parties.
One team desperately in need of a pass-rusher is the Kansas City Chiefs. Though I doubt the Raiders would deal with a division rival, the Chiefs ranked dead last in sacks last year with a dismal ten barely cracking double digits.
Another candidate who has been rumored to have interest in Derrick Burgess is the New England Patriots.
Last year they were tied at 14th in sacks with 31 one less than the Raiders total.
They were allegedly in the hunt for Julius Peppers to play OLB as a pass rusher. Now with his $16-plus million dollar franchise tender signing, that door seems closed.
Though fairly unsuccessful, Burgess has experience playing the 3-4 OLB position. In a defense other than one of Rob Ryans vanilla schemes he is likely to perform better.
The next likely candidate is the Cleveland Browns who were tied at 31st in sacks with only 17. The defense is currently being coached by former Raider DC Rob Ryan and a history between Ryan and Burgess may have pull in a trade. Also seemingly happy now DT Shaun Rogers requested a trade earlier this off-season.
Next is the Cincinatti Bengals tied with the Browns with a measly 17 sacks. Many would argue they drafted their future pass-rusher in the third round with DE Michael Johnson, but the tandem of rookie and veteran would strike fear into many QBs.
Next is the Green Bay Packers. Last year they ranked 25th in the league with 27 sacks and are currently transitioning to the 3-4 from a 4-3 (with Aaron Kampman making the transition from DE to OLB). Burgess can be plugged in the rotation or played opposite Kampman. The Packers have an impressive offense but struggled (only winning six games) last year due to the defense.
There are other teams who may be interested but these were the most likely in my opinion. Other pass-rush challenged teams that may be interested include: Washington Redskins (T)28th with 24; Buffalo Bills (T) 28th with 24; Houstan Texans 27th with 25; NO Saints 22nd with 28; and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Jacksonville Jaguars tied at 20th with 29.
Rumored values on Derrick Burgess range anywhere from a 2nd to a 4th rounder, though I suspect the Raiders would be interested in package deals especially if the include a DT or SOLB
by Ramone Brown (bleacher report)
June 26th, 2009 at 5:51 am
thankx Rockstar =)
June 26th, 2009 at 5:53 am
I’d like to trade Derrick Burgess & Keith Davis to the Packers in exchange for Atari Bigby and a 6th round pick
is this a fair trade?
June 26th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
LMN…good morning/afternoon to ya!
Rockstar, 4eva…what’s going on guys?
June 26th, 2009 at 5:58 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, ROCKSTAR AT FULL SPEED EARLY THIS MORNING , 4EVA, NEW POSTER -L M N . WHERE U BEEN L M N, WE HAVE MISS’D U .
June 26th, 2009 at 6:05 am
Good Morning Dirt Lot…
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 26th, 2009 at 5:53 am
I’d like to trade Derrick Burgess & Keith Davis to the Packers in exchange for Atari Bigby and a 6th round pick
is this a fair trade?
I could live with that, Rockstar!
June 26th, 2009 at 6:06 am
From Nnamdi’s live chat on NFL.com -
Q: in your real honest opinion….are we a playoff team right now by your estimation?
A: Yes. To go from 5-11 and then make the playoffs the following year is not an easy task, but it’s do-able. But much of that won’t be determined until we put on pads and play a couple of preseason games. So much about making the playoffs is determined on how well the teams in your division do. And I think we have a good chance this year to be in the forefront of our division, which would lead to the playoffs.
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whoa!
OAKlifer: pass the Kool-Aid brother!
June 26th, 2009 at 6:07 am
good morning Dirt Lot, Hwnrdr …
June 26th, 2009 at 6:11 am
Nnamdi says:
I love the Raider Nation. These are a group of people that understand the concept of tough love. I remember when I first came into the league and things weren’t going so well for me. I have definitely had my share of booes and nay-sayers, especially during my early years, but through all of that, they were still supportive and hoping for the best for me.
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Wow. tons of “tough love” for Michael Huff on this blog! HAHA. how many are still supportive and hope the best for him?
Me, Myself and I ???
June 26th, 2009 at 6:15 am
ASK ME AT HALFETIME OF THE SAN DIEGO GAME (OPENER) WHAT KIND OF SEASON 09 WILL BE..
June 26th, 2009 at 6:18 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
June 26th, 2009 at 6:15 am
ASK ME AT HALFETIME OF THE SAN DIEGO GAME (OPENER) WHAT KIND OF SEASON 09 WILL BE..
Exactly!!! That is the game that will decide whether or not we will be tough enough to win the division.
June 26th, 2009 at 6:19 am
I am supportive of ALL the players and hope they all do good.Even donkeys
June 26th, 2009 at 6:25 am
OK GENTELMAN,ENOUGH JIBBERISH, BACK 2 THE POLITICAL AGENDA’S OF THE AFTERNOON / EVENING BLOGGER’S..
June 26th, 2009 at 6:26 am
Dirt Lot: we were playing pretty well the first half of the 1st Sandy Eggo game last year. finished with 5 wins
I think we’ll see how much Russell has improved (hopefully!) in the preseason …
He won’t see much playing time, but while he’s in the game, there will be guys on the other team trying their hardest to make an impression and make the team. 100 percent effort trying to get sacks, interceptions and forced fumbles. We’ll also find out if the o-line has progressed at all fairly quickly imo
June 26th, 2009 at 6:33 am
I’m in S&B’s camp when I say that the o-line & d-line determine what type of season you’ll have.
we’ve filled ours with a bunch of scrubs for years.
Henderson, Gallery, Ellis & Scott have potential, but what about the rest of those clowns?
I think we have a bunch of weapons on offense and the best pair of corners in the league, but are we going to have a solid passing attack and will we be able to stop the run? last year we were atrocious at both! We don’t have a shot at winning the division until those things are improved. We’re not going to put up points like the 2007 Patriots and force every team out there to throw against our dominant CB’s!
June 26th, 2009 at 6:33 am
GOOD POINT ROCKSTAR,JUST HOPING THING’S DO NOT GO SOUTH SO-2-SPEAK EARLY AS IN PAST SEASONS.
June 26th, 2009 at 6:47 am
” playoffs is determined on how well the teams in your division do. And I think we have a good chance this year to be in the forefront of our division, which would lead to the playoffs.” ~ Nnamdi Asomugha
ONE OF THE BEST TO EVER STRAP IT UP!!!!
HE Knows this is one of the most important things and When WE beat SD on opening night the whole world will see!!! I STILL beleive in HUFF!! I STILL beleive in the PLAYOFFS And most of ALL I BELEIVE JaMarcus Russel Will Stand the FU@K up and take charge!!!!!
MILLER TO THE PROBOWL!!!
C. Johnson Will be on BSPN LastTake and other media whor3s on his nutzzzz saying I’v been ready all along just needed a chance to play with great players (Nnamdi) on a great team!
Whoa!!! Spilled A little on my self but it was worth it KOOL-AID stain!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!
RIP MJ
CURRY TO THE TOWN YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!! (Yes Dakota I bleed Black and Red but I love my warriors as well)
P.S. Russell will be ProBowl Alternate And Some how Some way be in Honolulu!!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 6:57 am
good morning OAKlifer. how’s it going my friend?
Nnamdi took a ton of pressure off you this morning by personally dishing out some Kool-Aid for Raider Nation!
Dirt Lot: I think much of the SD game in Week 1 will be determined by our ability to run the football against their D-Line anchored by Jamal Williams and contain Shawne Merriman if he has returned to form
I’m not concerned about LT, Jackson or Chambers. I am concerned about Rivers finding Sproles & Gates in the passing game though. It’s up to the LB’s & safties to shut these two players down.
June 26th, 2009 at 7:01 am
How could any Raider fan say hes not concerned about LT?? The guy has basically made a career against the Raiders.
And if any one wants to bet that Russell wil not be in the PB….Any amount of money, even if I have to drain my bank accounts.
June 26th, 2009 at 7:08 am
Dude: Tomlinson has passed the 30 years old marker, when RB’s start to decline. His production dropped off in a big way last year, hence them only winning 8 games and SD slapping the franchise tag on Sproles.
Injuries have also been a factor the past 2 seasons.
LT is done imo. Any RB has punished our run defense over the past 6 seasons. Ask Ron Dayne!
the only way he has a big game on Week 1 is if the run defense hasn’t improved under John Marshall’s teaching, schemes and play calling …
June 26th, 2009 at 7:12 am
good morning OAKlifer. how’s it going my friend?
Every day Is a good DAY!!! how bout you brother??
Sproles outta the back fiels will kill us and two rookie* safties might hurt against Gates unless…unless…M&M Blows him up on a seam route takes his head off and makes him wish he was playing Bball at some state college!!!!!!!
LOL@ duder whats up man long time no see dnt bother drainn your bank account I’m workin in Ore. this week your $32.76 wouldn’t go far up here!!! gas is expensive plus if you like west union it that would be like 5$$ right there we be lookin at 26 27 $$$ fedd your fam bro I’m cool!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 7:18 am
Headed your way in about 3 hrs, going to Troutdale. If you wanna hook up and put a cool G on him not making the PB, im in.
June 26th, 2009 at 7:18 am
I’m not sure about Mitchell’s coverage skills. Gates is a HUGE threat in the red zone.
Our hope is for Norv Turner to make some calls for Gates to go across the middle and the D-Line to force Rivers into making throws he doesn’t want to make. If Mitchell proves to be a head hunter in the NFL, he should be able to set the tone for us to be an aggressive, playmaking secondary. Of course that won’t matter unless the front seven do their jobs effectively.
June 26th, 2009 at 7:19 am
OBTHW, whats the forecast in your neck of the woods for today??
June 26th, 2009 at 7:35 am
OAKlifer
Pro Bowl is in Florida the week before the Superbowl this year so I’d redirect Russell or he will be in Hawaii by himself. LOL
June 26th, 2009 at 7:35 am
see you guys later. workin’ hard now
June 26th, 2009 at 7:37 am
Mornin’ mornin’ crew. Nnamdi said:
On defense, so far in camps this offseason Michael Huff has really been having a great offseason thus far. I know it’s a critical year for him, and I can see him making a jump.
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If Huff doesn’t do something this year he can jump up Cable’s ass!
Sorry for the visual it might remind you of the true nature of M. Jackson,lol.
June 26th, 2009 at 7:37 am
exLA….
LOL
June 26th, 2009 at 7:44 am
Troutdale!!!!!
Lets do Mcmennimans Edge Field!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
72 partly cloudy!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 7:45 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
June 26th, 2009 at 7:35 am
OAKlifer
Pro Bowl is in Florida the week before the Superbowl this year so I’d redirect Russell or he will be in Hawaii by himself. LOL
DAMN i even spell checked Honolulu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!oh well the food is better he will be happy!!!!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 7:48 am
OAKlifer thats what we have aswell, though its almost in the afternoon…
http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/local/DAXX0009?lswe=Copenhagen,%20DENMARK&lwsa=WeatherLocalUndeclared&from=searchbox_typeahead
June 26th, 2009 at 7:51 am
though i hate New England, I would rather have him as owner of LFC, than the two other americans that owns it now, they are freaking idiots….
I hope Carlsberg buys it, LOL that could be great =)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/liverpool/article6578426.ece
June 26th, 2009 at 8:21 am
TMZ reports that the LAPD is looking for MJ’s DR. who was at his house. Seems he gave Jackson a heavy dose of demerol at 11:34 a.m. They towed his car for evidence. May have been an overdose that killed him.
June 26th, 2009 at 8:27 am
May have been an overdose that killed him.
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So that would make him the pederast Elvis. The king of popping boys.
June 26th, 2009 at 8:34 am
kolby, kansas
03:49 PM ET
who was your favorite player growing up?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
My favorite player, as far as an athlete, was Magic Johnson. My favorite NFL players were Barry Sanders and Deion Sanders. Then … my favorite all-time Raider — that’s Marcus Allen.
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Great picks for fav b-baller (Magic) and Raider…Marcus is my second all-time fav Raider next to Howie. I always knew Nnamdi was a smart guy.
June 26th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Dale, Lexington, Ky
04:18 PM ET
What’s your favorite sport other than football?
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
That’s basketball, without question. Basketball was my sport, my ONLY sport. I only got into football because my older brother was playing it, and I wanted to do whatever he was doing growing up. So I started playing it. But basketball was my first love, and there’s no greater team in NBA history than the LA Lakers!
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Hell yeah!
June 26th, 2009 at 8:39 am
well I always been fond of Casper and Villipiano..
June 26th, 2009 at 8:40 am
The Rules don’t allow Safeties to be headhunters like Jack Tatum anymore. So expecting Mitchell or any Safety to have that kind of impact is unrealistic. Mitchell will have to cover and tackle well.
June 26th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Damn Dakota don’t get me going on the greatness of the LAKERS .
You might not be able to head hunt as much but you can be like Polamu,Reed, and make plays.
June 26th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Jason, San Francisco
05:06 PM ET
Nnamdi – how could you possibly say Kobe slightly over MJ? Jordan was still a better overall player… the only thing Kobe does better is the 3 ball. Thats it! Jordan all day! Now that you’ve mentioned all the greats you’ve played against… do you think DHB has chance in the league. There seems to be A LOT of doubters…
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Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
I’m sorry. Let’s discuss this for a second. We all know how great Jordan is. You said the only thing that Kobe has on MJ is the three ball? So now let me reverse the question — what does MJ have on Kobe besides two rings? All things being equal, Kobe and MJ are similar, but Kobe has a better three-ball. You figure it out LOL!
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I don’t know about that Nnamdi…I think the MJ-Kobe debate is closer than most people want to believe, but I think MJ still wins out. Kobe is better leading a team back from a deficit and (despite a lower shooting percentage) he has a slightly better overall offensive game because he is a threat from anywhere on the floor, but MJ just dominated the first three quarters and positioned his team to be ahead in the 4th through sheer will. Also MJ was stronger, maybe a better man on man defender (although he always guarded the teams second best perimeter player as Pippen always handled the best player) and got his teammates more involved (although Kobe is starting to do that now). Close, but the nod has to go to MJ. Maybe that will change over the next 5 years or so, we’ll see. (PS, I’d still take Magic over either of them).
June 26th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Mitchell can still lay the wood, as long as it below the shoulders, right?
Huff and Mitchell at the S spots sound good to me.
June 26th, 2009 at 8:51 am
Isiah Thomas made MJ look like a kid
June 26th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Huff is a pinhead…literally…he looks like that shrunken head dude that appears at the end of Beetlejuice.
http://www.yourprops.com/norm-48d194c831c3e-Beetlejuice+(1988).jpeg
June 26th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Villipiano..
didnt he get in trouble for boot legging raider gear in a little store in the heyward area???? I think so!!! also cool side note he came into the deli i was working at the time and he gave me his buisness card for the store that was closed down!!!!!!!!LOL!!!!!@ him!! but he was cool even signed the buisness card!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Kobe vs MJ …
Kobe without question has the better offensive game. Nnamdi make a good point by saying that if you say they are about equal offensively, but Kobe has the better 3 ball, then what are we talking about? They are both lock down defenders, and Kobe guards the other teams best player, unlike MJ.
Kobe has a better handle and a better jumper. MJ could never run the pick and roll like Kobe does. MJ was stronger and more physical, so he got to the hole more. I guess he had to with that jumper, especially early in his career. MJ was the king of ESPN highlight dunks, which is what people really like. Kobe gets 2 more rings, it’s not even a conversation.
June 26th, 2009 at 8:55 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
June 26th, 2009 at 7:48 am
OAKlifer thats what we have aswell, though its almost in the afternoon…
http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/local/DAXX0009?lswe=Copenhagen,%20DENMARK&lwsa=WeatherLocalUndeclared&from=searchbox_typeahead
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LMN,
Nice to have ya back!!! I was hoping this was the link to some hot danish toppless weather reporter!!! win some lose some!!!! oh well!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 9:01 am
Magic over MJ and Kobe????
Hmmmm ….
Love Magic, but his biggest advantage was his size at the PG spot. You can have Magic, Dakota but I can put 5 on the floor that will kill your team.
PG – Kobe
SG – MJ
SF – Worthy
PF – McHale
C – The Dream
That’s my five …. roll out the pelotas!
June 26th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Jhill,
MJ shot close to 50%, Kobe is at about 45%. MJ was a better rebounder and had more assists, steals and blocks per game (pretty sure on that, you can look it up though)…the clincher for me is that MJ never pulled a Kobe-like game seven (mailing it in against the Suns), and MJ always got it done in the finals…I saw Kobe try to win the finals by himself against Detroit and it screwed us up, and he certainly didn’t get the job done against the Celtics last year. It is a close call, but MJ gets the nod…and I hate MJ.
June 26th, 2009 at 9:12 am
PG -Clyde Drexler
SG – Brandon Roy
SF – Bill Walton
PF – Maurice Lucas
C – Arvydas Sobonis
That’s my five …. roll out the pelotas!
June 26th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Isiah Thomas schooled Magic 2 .All 6-9 Magic looked like a snail compared 2 Isiah,imo
June 26th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Higher FG% b/c he got more layups b/c of his physical superiorness.
MJ wins in that category, no argument here. But from a basketball skills point of view, I give it to Kobe.
MJ never took an undermanned team anywhere. Everytime he played in the Finals, he had the better team. MJ vs Byron Russell? Puh-leeze! Who was guarding him when they played Phoenix? The one finals I really give him credit for was when he outplayed Clyde. Now THAT was when I said, ok this guy is FOR REAL. I mean he had it ALL going in that series, and I thought Portland had the better team. Other than that, you can not question Kobe’s will to get it done. That series against Detorit was unwinable, period. The minute we knew Malone was out, we were done. And yeah, Kobe tried to do it himself in that series, and against Boston, but what other option was there? GP was getting ROASTED by billups, Malone was done, and Slava wasn’t hitting his shots. Last year, LO and Gasoft didn’t even show up.
I’ll take Kobe, but you really can’t lose either way.
June 26th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Jhill,
Kobe at point? He could do it I’m sure…and that way he could control MJ’s shot count!
I’d take my chances with this lineup against yours:
PG: Magic
SG: Gervin
SF: Bird
PF: Duncan
C: Wilt
My team would kick your team;s ass even sporting old-school short shorts, lol
June 26th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Isiah was the man too …
Give him the horses that Magic had to roll with, and OMG!
June 26th, 2009 at 9:15 am
jhill Says:
June 26th, 2009 at 9:14 am
The one finals I really give him credit for was when he outplayed Clyde. Now THAT was when I said, ok this guy is FOR REAL. I mean he had it ALL going in that series, and I thought Portland had the better team.
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Take a bow you are a genious my friend!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 9:19 am
I don’t know Jhill, I’d take Gasol and Bynum over any center or PF MJ had on his first run, and I’d take Fisher over BJ Armstrong fo sho. Pippen was great, but other than maybe Rodman on that second team, I think the Lakers had more talent on this last championship team, and certtainly on the Shaq driven teams.
June 26th, 2009 at 9:25 am
I hated Portland and Detroit back in the day (Duckworth, Drexler, Porter Kersey, Robinson, Rodman, Edwards, Isiah, Vinnie, that dirty old white guy who’s name I can’t recall, hated those mfkers)…that is why losing the 2004 finals to Detroit really sucked balls and with Portland coming into its own it is going to be difficult watching them take the mantle from the Lakers in a couple of years (if they can stay healthy that is, which is looking kind of iffy).
Of course, losing to the Celtics takes the cake…I hope we get a re-match next year.
June 26th, 2009 at 9:25 am
I knew if I came on a Raider blog we’d be talking basketball!
I hate July.
Lakers rule!
June 26th, 2009 at 9:28 am
(if they can stay healthy that is, which is looking kind of iffy).
another knock on……..you dirty dog get in in now cause next year when they (he) is healthy they (bynum) better beware!!! LOL
June 26th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Saint is right, maybe we should get back to talking about what role Alston and Brown might play on the team next this year, and who our backup TE might be. Maybe throw in some “maybe we will switch to a 3-4 D” talk, that is always funny. Or maybe a little Andrew Walter’s career was ruined in 2006 talk…that is fun too.
July does suck.
June 26th, 2009 at 9:29 am
SaintKaufman Says:
June 26th, 2009 at 9:25 am
I knew if I came on a Raider blog we’d be talking basketball!
I hate July.
Lakers rule!
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Blazers Rule!
But Saint,
What do you think of our LB situation will R.brown unseat Cap’n kirk Will Frantz make the team and is condo going to play Defense this year??? how much longer will Sam “Shcolarship” Williams be here???
June 26th, 2009 at 9:30 am
OAKlifer, I knew you could read between the lines.
June 26th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Dakota Says:
June 26th, 2009 at 9:29 am
maybe we should get back to talking about what role Alston and Brown might play on the team next this year,
OAKlifer Says:
June 26th, 2009 at 9:29 am
What do you think of our LB situation will R.brown unseat Cap’n kirk Will Frantz make the team and is condo going to play Defense this year???
AHHH GREAT minds think alike!!!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Finally, a rightwing radio host goes to jail for hate speech. The times they are a changin’
He’s a friend of Fox News too. Piceless.
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/fbis-arrest-hannity-pal-hal-turner-h
June 26th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Man did I step in it!
I didn’t say stop. Holy mutha!
Of course, I do have to put up with all of these knucklehead Blazer fans on a daily basis so…….
Andrew for prez!
June 26th, 2009 at 9:36 am
month of June:
-76ers hire Eddie Jordan as HC
-acquire Jason Kapono from Toronto
-dump Reggie Evans & Royal Ivey
-draft Jrue Holiday
PLAYOFFS, baby!
June 26th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Of course, I do have to put up with all of these knucklehead Blazer fans on a daily basis so…….
you in the big OR????????p-town??
June 26th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Hey Oak,
Just across the river. Headed to Gresham this morning then out to The Reserve for a well deserved round of beer, I mean golf!
You?
June 26th, 2009 at 9:41 am
That would be a helluva matchup Dakota … would the game really ever end? B/c of course you have to win by 2.
No refs, playground rules! I think you go down in the end though. Your shorts won’t allow enough circulation to make it into the 4th qtr.
June 26th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Dakota,
M.J. had some great centers in Chicago. Who can ever forget Bill Cartwright, Olden Polynice, Bill Weddington (spelling?) and the man from Australia, Luc Longley. If that was not an All Star cast! LOL
June 26th, 2009 at 9:45 am
People,
This is a Raider Blog!! Wanna talk BBall, politics, religion, and other topics? Take it to another Blog!!!!!
lol jerry said it was OK!!
Good morning Nation.
June 26th, 2009 at 9:50 am
How come no one talked about Scottie Pippen???!!!
Him and MJ were the best Combo. IMHO
June 26th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Scottie was the Man, and he played great with Jordan.
June 26th, 2009 at 9:54 am
You talk about Gasoft and Bynum at C instead of what MJ had to work with, but MJ never faced a C in the playoffs. His toughest front court opposition was Malone and Barkley, and neither of them offered resistance in the paint. So you can argue that MJs front court of Grant and Cartwright, as well as Rodman and Luc Longley were the superior front court in every Finals they appeared in.
June 26th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Scottie was a phag!
June 26th, 2009 at 9:57 am
cried a lot 2
June 26th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Jhill,
What about Bulls vs. Knicks. Ewing was a great C!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Saint,
In bend today for the weekend but I’m working in millwaukie area right now!!! stayin in gladstone!!! These are some of my stompin grounds spent alot of time in SE portland as a teen!!
June 26th, 2009 at 10:01 am
What does that have to do with how he played? He was a great player. IMO
June 26th, 2009 at 10:01 am
good morning Jhill, Raider O, exla …
June 26th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Player Profile: LS/LB Jon Condo
To the common fan, it seems simple enough – just snap the ball. The defense got the stop. The offense put together the potential game-winning drive. Now all you need to do snap the ball to holder Shane Lechler and let Raiders’ all-time leading scorer Sebastian Janikowski do the rest. The only problem is you’re snapping it seven yards backwards, often in inclement conditions, with a 300-plus pound lineman ready to knock your block off. Oakland Raiders long snapper Jon Condo is faced with this on every punt, field goal and extra point during the game – and the fact that you may not know his name is probably a good thing.
Few long snappers in the NFL garner much acknowledgement from fans, unless they make that costly error. It’s one of the few positions where being unknown is a good thing. Because of their highly specialized role they’re not highly visible on the field and may only play a handful of snaps each Sunday.
Condo is entering his third year with the Oakland Raiders after re-signing with the organization this past off-season. As happy as the Silver and Black are to have him back, Condo is as excited to be around his teammates.
“It’s awesome to be back,” Condo said during a recent interview between workouts. “I feel the off-season is one of the most critical parts of the season.”
Jon’s high-intensity, work-hard attitude has made him one of the top long snappers in the National Football League. He views these workouts as building blocks for a great season. “We go out and bust our butt everyday together. We’re working together and sweating together, this is building team chemistry.”
Condo, who graduated from Philipsburg-Osceola High in 2000, went on to have an outstanding collegiate career at the University of Maryland where he was named the team’s “Top Special Teams Performer” – the first pure long snapper to earn such honors. After a short stint with Dallas, he landed with the Raiders before the start of the 2007 season. Since his arrival, Jon has been an intricate part of the Raiders special teams unit’s success, playing alongside Lechler and Janikowski, who are the envy of special teams’ coaches across the league.
“It’s unreal,” Condo said when asked what it’s like playing with the two. “I don’t think I could have it any better way, working with those two guys. It’s just unbelievable.”
Perhaps equally unbelievable is that he’s treated like the same Jon Condo, the guy that ran for a school record 2,700 yards in his career at Philipsburg-Osceola High, when he returns to Philipsburg. “I go back home and I’m still one of the guys,” describing what it’s like to be a professional athlete in his hometown. “We’ll go out in the woods, or do something like we would have when we were younger. It’s not too different.”
Although growing up miles away from California, he acknowledges he’s always had an admiration for the Oakland Raiders tradition, a tradition he has become a part of. “My family all sports Raiders gear and supports us.”
To come out of a small town like Philipsburg and make it in the NFL is a dream come true for many kids across the country. For Jon Condo, it’s no longer a dream.
-Raiders.com
June 26th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Bend? Now that’s a cool town. I love Crosswater!
Been up here for a dozen years. …and every February I ask myself WHY?!! Summers are awesome though. There’s quite a few Raider fans up here, will probably make the preseason game up in Seattle with the boy.
You guys are coocoo for coco puffs when it comes to the Blazers! And man, talk about some Laker hatin’ fools!!
June 26th, 2009 at 10:07 am
RR,
Good morning News Man! lol
We need some news, and you always post articles in the morning! Where’s today’s fix?
June 26th, 2009 at 10:10 am
Scottie Pippen is married.
His wife Larsa Pippen is a stone cold fox!
and they have 3 kids together …
he’s not g@y, fellas
June 26th, 2009 at 10:14 am
RR,
Thank you! lol
June 26th, 2009 at 10:17 am
We need some news, and you always post articles in the morning! Where’s today’s fix?
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I’m always glad to help. we need SOMETHING to talk about! and the early AM crew has suggested that I fill in for Jerry Mac until training camp gets underway. There won’t be much Raider news or NFL news in general until training camp gets started. Jerry can use this time to spend with his family. He needs a break. We give him a ton of grief every day, but we all continue to show up on a daily basis and contribute something worth talking about
June 26th, 2009 at 10:18 am
I never liked the idea of just a LS, he needs to play another position. LB, C, DE, G, anything!!!! I know it said LB too, but he’s not even a backup on the depth chart!
June 26th, 2009 at 10:21 am
RR,
I know bro!! I was trying to watch NFLTA yesterday, and I couldn’t watch for more than a few min. They had nothing to talk about! NOTHING!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 10:22 am
i lost my virginity to Farrah! I wish she was there!
June 26th, 2009 at 10:23 am
RR,
Post 1344: Even if he was, what does that have to do with how he played??
June 26th, 2009 at 10:24 am
# ct raider Says:
June 26th, 2009 at 10:22 am
i lost my virginity to Farrah! I wish she was there!
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Using your hand on late night Charlies Angles re-runs doesn’t count man.
June 26th, 2009 at 10:26 am
By the way guys, Raider Mom is back!!
I’ll stop talking about H W!
June 26th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Raider O Says:
June 26th, 2009 at 10:01 am
What does that have to do with how he played? He was a great player. IMO
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LMFAO!
U crack me up O! You’re a cool cat.
I guess that has nothing to do with it, LOL!
June 26th, 2009 at 10:28 am
And the BM5000!!!!
That was classic Dakota!!! lol
June 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Jhill,
Thank you!
I love it!! Cool Cat, Dogg, etc…. You can’t say that in Arabic!!! You would insult people!!
LMAO!!!!! To call some one a Dog in Arabic is a huge insult!! Cat is a little better!! lol but not by much.
I love cultural differences!!
June 26th, 2009 at 10:41 am
jhill Says:
June 26th, 2009 at 9:54 am
You talk about Gasoft and Bynum at C instead of what MJ had to work with, but MJ never faced a C in the playoffs. His toughest front court opposition was Malone and Barkley, and neither of them offered resistance in the paint. So you can argue that MJs front court of Grant and Cartwright, as well as Rodman and Luc Longley were the superior front court in every Finals they appeared in.
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It’s not like Kobe played against great centers in his 4 championships either…I guess if you count the playoffs and classify Duncan as a C and not as a PF…or Vlade Divac, lol. In the finals they went up against what cent? Smits? And old Mutumbo? I guess if you want to crown Dwight Howard as a great center that might be one.
June 26th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Jhill,
Do you know any Arab/ Americans that speak arabic?
June 26th, 2009 at 10:45 am
MJ, hands down, 6 to 4. Tougher mentally and physically.
June 26th, 2009 at 10:46 am
How many everydown defensive players do the Raiders have on their roster? I see a team full of platoon players.
Everydown:
Kirk Morrison
Thomas Howard
Greg Ellis
Tommy Kelly
Nnamdi Asomugha
Chris Johnson
June 26th, 2009 at 10:47 am
MJ never had a Shaq or Gasol.
June 26th, 2009 at 10:48 am
If you do, call them : Bisseh Barideh or Bissah Baridah, and see what happens! lol
They will be shocked, then tell’em Cool Cat!
LMAO
June 26th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Raider O:
مرحبا يا فرسان ، وأنا أتكلم العربية ، بفضل الانترنت. يرجى تسليم أسامة بن لادن في أقرب وقت ممكن وإلا فإننا سوف المراجعة لك حتى تنزف. شكرا لتعاونكم.
June 26th, 2009 at 10:50 am
I think you got me a little off track Dakota. I don’t really want to argue Gasoft vs Horace Grant or Rodman. I’d probably take Gasoft too, but I wouild certainly have to mull it over. Same with Bynum. I’m pretty sure I’ll take him over Cartwright, but Cartwright and Longley did what they had to do. If they didn’t play with such a ball hog in MJ, maybe their stats would have been better.
June 26th, 2009 at 10:51 am
I think Teams in the hunt play better defense. How demoralizing it must have been for the defense over the last 6 years. With absolutely no help or rest from the Offense. Six 3 & outs it a row will break most defenses. Week after week, year after year.
June 26th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Jhill, don’t call it getting off track, call it delving deeper into the issue, lol.
June 26th, 2009 at 10:54 am
O,
My Uncle married a lovely woman from Iran. I adore her and her entire family. They’ve been in the family for at least 25 years. Plenty of Farci(sp) has run through my ears, my man!
Had a really good friend that was Persian when I was in college. I thought my name was Habibi for a minute there.
June 26th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Michael Jackson just walked out of the hospital!:
http://www.walyou.com/img/michael-jackson-thriller-remake-acapella-5.jpg
June 26th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Dakota,
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good for you!!!!!!!!!!! That was perfect!!!!!!!
Internet!!!!! Stop it!!! You are a CIA agent!!
Still LMAO, did you write that youself, or copy and paste?
June 26th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Internet translator Raider O. It was supposed to say something about you turing over Os@ma or else we’d audit you to death, lol.
June 26th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Jhill,
LMAO,
All my friends are called Habibi!!! Weird!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Yeah Dakota,
I’m not 100% on top of my mental game today. Sorry for not keeping up.
Got a lot on my mind this morning. Wifey’s mom is pissed at me b/c I couldn’t leave my workers alone and go to the beach with them today. Since I didn’t go, her husband and son used me as an excuse not to go.
Of course she’s bytchen at my preganant wife now, and it’s really rolling downhill though. My wife is super cool though, so she’s really trying not to give me shyt. But I’m sure you can feel me.
June 26th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Jhill, tough spot man.
June 26th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Lunch time
June 26th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Yo, good morning folks!!
So I was at a sportsbook yesterday, hit pretty good on Wed, lost a little yesterday (damn Berkman killed my under ticket), when I saw something on espn (don’t know which program it was). It was of Jamarcus and the title below said something like “is Jamarcus attempt to work with teammates in vein?”, but the audio wasn’t on so I don’t know what they said. Anyone see it and want to fill in the blanks for me. Thanks.
June 26th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Dakota,
That’s exactly what it said!! LMAO
I still think you are a CIA Agent!!!
1- you are a Rep
2- you know too much about that area
3- you live in SD?!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Didn’t Jordan have to go up against PF Oakley and C Ewing.
June 26th, 2009 at 11:08 am
I never saw Jordan’s team lose by 30+ in an elimanation game like I saw Kobe’s do last year in the finals and a few years ago against the Suns. Kobe is great but spare me the comparision. There is none.
June 26th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Good morning Vegas.
Sportsbar!! Heineken, sports, and a good looking waitress!! The good life!
June 26th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Vegas,
Do you know the odds for the Raiders winning the SB in 2010? 75:1!!! That’s makes a great pay day!!
June 26th, 2009 at 11:18 am
PF Oakley and C Ewing.
LOL@ those two maybe if he played them in 88 or something!!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Not one Raider in the Decades Top 25
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation/0-8-215/Best-of-the-best–Top-25-players-this-decade.html
June 26th, 2009 at 11:24 am
KoolKell Says:
June 26th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Not one Raider in the Decades Top 25
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Difficult to get a player on the all-decade team when you only have 5 players and 1 starter of distinction that was on the team before 2004.
Difficult to get a player on the board when you’ve relied upon old veterans nearing retirement, swapped out coaches every year and have the worst 6yr stretch in NFL history
June 26th, 2009 at 11:25 am
This year’s guy is Heyward-Bey. Oakland picked him despite the presence of Texas Tech’s Crabtree and Missouri’s Jeremy Maclin on the board, and despite puny comparative numbers (15 career touchdowns to Crabtree’s 41 and Maclin’s 33).
He has puny comparative everything, really, except speed: Heyward-Bey ran a combine-best 4.3 40-yard dash.
Speed is seductive and addictive to Raiders owner Al Davis. He couldn’t resist. And the pick was widely ripped — Carter did not mince words moments after the pick on April 25 (see video above).
The former NFL standout stands by his opinion of the rookie.
“Nobody in the football world except the Raiders thought he was the best receiver,” Carter says now.
June 26th, 2009 at 11:26 am
O Dont start with the Heinekin talk again bro…. See you do it to yourself…LMAO
June 26th, 2009 at 11:33 am
O,
I was banging the newcastle’s yesterday, good afternoon beer. It was the good life, would have been better if Lance Berkman didn’t rip two homers and ruin my under play.(Luxor waitresses are kind of old though, not much there)
I’ve seen 75/1 a few places, only a few teams with worse odds. As the season gets closer they might throw out some odds to win division plays, so I might look to that. Wouldn’t be as a high as you would thinks, maybe 10/1 or so I would guess.
June 26th, 2009 at 11:34 am
“To me, the pick does not make sense. He was honorable mention All-ACC [Atlantic Coast Conference]. So he disappeared in ACC games. So if you don’t think he’s a franchise receiver, going to make the Pro Bowl five or six times, you don’t take him that high.”
Heyward-Bey’s answer to his critics? In his first Raiders’ minicamp, he had three consecutive drops and a pulled hamstring.
This week, he aggravated the hamstring while running an out pattern and was forced to leave practice. And yet he’s … relatively happy?
Chris Carter
June 26th, 2009 at 11:36 am
From Wiki
With the drafting and development of Horace Grant, the Bulls traded Oakley to the New York Knicks for 7′1″ center Bill Cartwright. Oakley eventually became a part of the core which the Knicks built around, which also featured Ewing, John Starks, and point guard Mark Jackson. Oakley’s hard work and physical play for the Knicks won the hearts of many loyal Knicks’ fans.
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Played against the great Bull teams. Before the trade was known as Jordan’s enforcer. No one fouled him hard.
June 26th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Three consecutive drops and a pulled hamstring; only place to go is up from there.
June 26th, 2009 at 11:37 am
man with a name like Einstein you would’ve got the jest,smarty pants
June 26th, 2009 at 11:37 am
KoolKell,
I don’t have too much of a problem with taking DHB over Crabtree, Maclin or any of the other wide receivers….I had a problem with taking a wide receiver in the top 10. So many of them bust and you also can find good receivers throughout the first 3 or 4 rounds of the draft.
Hopefully DHB works out. I will say that Al Davis relies too much on 40x and his visions of what speed actually does on the field.
June 26th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Case in point….it will be interesting to see how much better DHB is than Louis Murphy.
Will they let the best man win? If Murphy outplays DHB, will he get more chances?
June 26th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Raider O
Dakota lives in the middle east
June 26th, 2009 at 11:45 am
SnB Defense Says:
June 26th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Will they let the best man win? If Murphy outplays DHB, will he get more chances?
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Not initially, barring injuries, DHB will get a better opportunity to shine, and won’t be asked to play any special teams whatsoever (may see Murphy covering punts, unlikely sure, but possible).
Over time, these things work themselves out however. And I do believe there is a chance that Murphy may not only end up a better pro than DHB, but maybe one of the best WR’s in this years draft. When you consider he was the best pure WR from the best team in the country (Florida), that shouldn’t be that unreasonable.
June 26th, 2009 at 11:50 am
And like that I’m gone. Going to some funky Italian/pizza buffet thing, wife has a coupon. Wife LOVVESSS the coupons!!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 11:55 am
In our case, like Nnamdi said, we only need DHB to come in a be a threat year 1. I know that a lot of jack to pay a guy to simply be a threat, but in the team concept of things, that threat is exactly what our running game needs. As well as what our TE and #1WR needs.
DHB will be fine!
June 26th, 2009 at 11:59 am
I think you will end up seeing Chaz, DHB, JLH, AND Murphy give us our $’s worth for a few more years.
This offense is one that we should see develop and dominate for years. JR, DMac, Bush, DHB, Chaz, JLH, Murphy, and Miller are all young.
Puh-leeze don’t jack this up Cable!
June 26th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
R8,
I know bro!! I miss it! lol
June 26th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
4eva,
Maybe he does, that makes sense now!! He didn’t know the price of an Acre in the Hills!!! lol
I’m calling my family and friends now, the hunt for Dakota begins today!!! J!had on Dakota!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
vegas raider Says:
June 26th, 2009 at 11:45 am
SnB Defense Says:
June 26th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Will they let the best man win? If Murphy outplays DHB, will he get more chances?
***************************************
Not initially, barring injuries, DHB will get a better opportunity to shine, and won’t be asked to play any special teams whatsoever (may see Murphy covering punts, unlikely sure, but possible).
Over time, these things work themselves out however. And I do believe there is a chance that Murphy may not only end up a better pro than DHB, but maybe one of the best WR’s in this years draft. When you consider he was the best pure WR from the best team in the country (Florida), that shouldn’t be that unreasonable.
=======================================================
I hope they just put the best players on the field. They really need that rookie salary cap so that decisions such as these can be made without “as much” concern about salaries etc
June 26th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Vegas,
10:1 is good, but 15:1 or 20:1 is even better!
Even at 10:1, if I had the money,I would put a $1000.
If they do will this year, these odds will go way down next year. Take advantage of the Odds, and they do have a chance! IMO
I like those odds!
June 26th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
RaiderO,
No need to hunt for me I am based out of Kareck Castle…I’ll be waiting for them.
June 26th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
If they do well, sorry.
June 26th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
That would be Kerak Castle…but your friends better bring siege equipment.
http://www.mbohbot.com/Empire%20Crusader.jpg
June 26th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Dakota,
OK Rambo!!! lol
I’ve been there, you ate making miss Jordan!
If you dont mind me asking? How do you know so much about that area and it’s history, is it Edu, Internet, etc…
June 26th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Don’t Aswer that, I’m having too much fun nor knowing! lol
June 26th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
I just like history RaiderO.
June 26th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Old school Rambo! lol
We won against them afew times. Last one was Jerusalem! Ahhhh the good old days, when we had balls!! Now we are just cowards, and we make Bom…
June 26th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
jhill Says:
June 26th, 2009 at 11:55 am
In our case, like Nnamdi said, we only need DHB to come in a be a threat year 1. I know that a lot of jack to pay a guy to simply be a threat, but in the team concept of things, that threat is exactly what our running game needs. As well as what our TE and #1WR needs.
DHB will be fine
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But to be a deep threat, you have to be able to catch the ball in the short game as well. He still needs to be a complete receiver to be totally effective. If he just runs 9 routes all day the corner will play off and that’s that
June 26th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
We take pride in having Honor, and what those people did has no Honor.
And because of our lack of pride and honor, look at us now!! 28/ 29 countries!! All divided, with leaders that care about being Kings and making money!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
The great Saladin?
June 26th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Dakota,
Talk to your friends in the agency, then talk to the Prez. ( not that you need to do that) and give me a country, and make me King!!
I want palest!ne!! You know how much I love the US. We did once with you know who in !ra..!!
I will clean all that mess over there, I will invade all the Arab countries, and after I it’s a huge empire, I will make it a republic!!
Forget about talking to your friends, that’s exactly what they don’t want to happen! lol
June 26th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Hmmmm, we like you guys fighting each other….
June 26th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
agreed SnB …
short slants, deep slants, deep in patterns, post and corner routes.
Agree that he needs to be a complete threat.
June 26th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Is N Korea still on the map?
I’ve been out of the loop for a week or so, but I heard they were running their mouths.
June 26th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
RaiderO,
Maybe we can kick all the people out of Wyoming and the Palestinians can move there…lots of oil and coal and we can dedicate Cheyenne as New Al-Quds.
But if you fire one rocket into South Dakota we will tie you to a fence and beat you to death. Fair enough?
June 26th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Jhill:
The Pentagon shrugged off a threat from North Korea Wednesday to wipe the United States off the map.
“I don’t even know how to respond to that. It’s silliness,” said Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell.”For what and with what?”
LMAO
June 26th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Fair enough!
LMAO
June 26th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
LOL Dakota …
at 1413 and 1414.
Tie you to a fence and beat you to death???? LOL!
That’s a lot of physical labor man! Why not so a Schindler’s list move and just line them up in a row? One round should take care of at least 4 of them depending on the caliber.
June 26th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Just about a month before TC. Over/Under on how many posts from Jerry before…oh, let’s say July 24th. I’m going to say 8.
June 26th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
As for the N Koreans, oh well …
I thought we might just want to kick some ass for a legitimate reason of someone actually threating us.
Imagine that?
June 26th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
Scottie Pippen is married.
His wife Larsa Pippen is a stone cold fox!
and they have 3 kids together …
he’s not g@y, fellas
—————
There’s this guy named Michael Jackson who’s been married twice & has 3 kids,lol.
June 26th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Nothing but bad news out there man, geeze!
I can’t believe the Dr actaully murdered Michael Jackson.
Odds on him getting charged?
June 26th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Jhill,
Well, I guess we’d probably be a little more subtle than that when committing genocide…if they acted up, well, when they had their first cold Wyoming winter we’d send them “special” blankets.
June 26th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Dakota,
We want Cali!! There’s plenty of sand, ocean, and farms!! Just like home!!
SF can be the new Al Quds, after we clean it up!! lol
That place is as far from Holy as you can be! lol
June 26th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
I can’t believe you guys really believe Mike actaully did something to that kid.
Did u even listen to the blackmail tape the kids parents were threatning him with. They even said on the tape that just the mere fact that they would put that perception out there would cost him millions. Johnny Cochran advised him to settle and get on with it. A lot of you say he shouldn’t have settled, just like Kobe and other stars, you never know what a jury is going to do. Especially a minority defendant who doesn’t have a jury of his peers. You can dismiss that if you want to but it’s not 10 years of your life that is on the line. Plus the $ you can make during that time.
I tell you what. Some clown touches my child, I guarantee you I won’t be talking to the perp about some settlement. We’d be talking about dirt naps my friend!
June 26th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
“Special” Blankets!! LMAO
Poor Natives!!!!
LMAO @ special Blankets
June 26th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
If you call lining them up against a fence and beating them to death subtle, then touche my man!
Was it your state that tied that gay dude up to a fence and beat the shyt out of him a few years back?
June 26th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
You have to stand in line for Cali, O …
The Mexicans want it back, and they are a lot closer.
June 26th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
We know we killed a lot of you, and took your land!! We are sorry!!! Have some blankets!!
“Special” blankets!!!
LMAO
I’m so sorry but I can’t help it!!
LMAO
June 26th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Jhill,
LMAO
June 26th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Damn, what the hell happened in here?
You guys are all over the place.
June 26th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Jhill,
Whst about the Native Americans, do they get anything??
Noooooo, gambling is good enough for them!!! After all, we gave them special Blankets!! lol
June 26th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
James Brown or Michael Jackson?
June 26th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Saint,
We need our fix!!
June 26th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Dakota,
You are one Funny Dude.
LMAO “special”
June 26th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
where’s our fix?!?!
June 26th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
You guys don’t need a fix, you NEED fixed!!
Small pox, that’s messed up!
June 26th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
I’m married, so I’m fixed! lol
June 26th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
cheddar
June 26th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
LMFAO!
The word that is used to describe those places in Vegas that have machines singing ching ching ching gets your post awaiting moderation.
Tried to respond to your Native American posts O.
Lot of $ running through those places. Not worth the blood shed, but they did get some form of reperations.
June 26th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
RaiderO…you can have Cali…as long as you let the Raiders and Lakers move.
Jhill,
It wasn’t my state it was Wyoming, which is why I put the fence line in there in the first place, lol.
June 26th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
MJ was the man when I was growing up.
JB was a little b4 my time.
Have to go with MJ!
June 26th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Indians are cool man, I have a lot of Indians as friends…btw, many of them (not all mind you) like the term Indians over Native Americans The latter just reminds them that this was their land first, lol.
June 26th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Got it Dakota …
I thought it was missles flying between the N and the S. Missed the Wyoming piece of it, lol!
June 26th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Isn’t it funny how being politically correct ends up offending the person anyway?
Black, African-American, Negro
Asian, Oriental, Chinese
Mexican, Hispanic, Latino
Someone always ends up complaining. That’s why I just like to call people by there name!
June 26th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Dakota,
The Raiders No, but You can move the lakers to SD!! Think about it!! The SD Lakers, doesn’t that sound great. You can watch all the home games.
As for the Raiders, they stay in Cali, but can be managed from SD too.
What do you think?
June 26th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Sorry Raider O, no deal, I guess you’ll have to settle for Wyoming.
June 26th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
is it illeagal 2 sell Indians whiskey in S.Dakota like it is in Az???
June 26th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
fire-water
June 26th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
the USA should invade and conquer Canada & Mexico.
then sell them to China. help us get out of debt!
June 26th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Jhill,
my friends hates the term African American, he likes black better. His logic is he’s not from Africa. Makes sense!
June 26th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
4eva,
I noticed you mentioned Vanderbilly a few blogs ago. You a guitar player?
June 26th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
One would argue that it doesn’t make sense O. His origin is not American, and I bet you he is more brown than Black.
But whatever floats his boat!
June 26th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
RR,
No need to conquer!!! They are the 51st and 52nd states. lol
June 26th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Actaully, we should just let China have the US, and we should start leasing.
Can’t the US just apply for one of those loan modifications?
June 26th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
border patrol. la migra!
June 26th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
does the USA qualify for financial aid since we have the most immigrants?
can we get awarded a grant of some kind by the other nations???
June 26th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
4eva, the Pine Ridge Indian reservation is a “dry” reservation. You can sell them anything when they are off the reservation. Let’s just say that nearby gas stations with liquor stores are big business in this area.
I don’t believe that the rest of the reservations in South Dakota are dry.
June 26th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
gotta run. have a GREAT/safe weekend fellas!
it’s been real
June 26th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Jhill,
He is skin color is brown, not very dark. I still think his logic makes sense. I’m Arab American, so how can he be an African American. I say I’m an Arab American cause my parents and grand parents are from there.
June 26th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
The blog is getting sloooooow because of all the posts…Jerry, hit us up with a one sentence fix just to get the comment section up and going again.
It could be anything….like Warren Sapp is a fat fuk.
June 26th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
There doesn’t seem to be a lot of positive feeling for the DHB pick. I really hope DHB can become a contributor in 2009…
http://tfdssports.com/2009/06/26/heyward-bey-likely-wont-start-season.html
June 26th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Jhill,
Saying African American is like saying: I’m a 6th Generation German American!!!!! IMHO
June 26th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Dakota:LMAO 1459
June 26th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Jhill,
Imagine this:
X: Hello, I’m a 6th Generation German American.
Y: you speak german?
X: no!
Y: Have you ever visited Germany?
X: No!
Y: have your parents been there? Or their grand parents?
X: No!
Y: does anyone from you family speaks German? Parents or Grandparents?
X: no! They were all born and raised here, and never been to Germany and they don’t speak german.
Y: interesting! So you are an American.
X: no sir, I’m a German American!!
June 26th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Looks like the Viqueens are going after Marvin Harrison…Favre should have some nice weapons to play with…AP, Harrison, Harvin, Berrian…
June 26th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Yes I am Saint
June 26th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
RR,
Have a great weekend bro.
June 26th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
CBS’ Top 50 NFL players for 2009…Raiders had one…I can’t believe Tommy Kelly isn’t on the list!
8. Nnamdi Asomugha, CB, Raiders: Nobody throws at him. That’s the ultimate sign of respect. He’s finally getting some now.
June 26th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
CBS’ Top 50 Bloggers for 2009…Raiders had one…I can’t believe Dakota isn’t on the list! Numbnuts.
8. The Real MaddenRaider: Nobody fukks with him. That’s the ultimate sign of respect. He’s finally getting some now.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
1469
June 26th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
1470
June 26th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
69 dude
June 26th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
5150
June 26th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
187
June 26th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
211
June 26th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Jerry you’re slacking! Stop waiting for other people to give you information and go out there and spy on the Raiders. You need to be more proactive but why should you be when your blog has 1473 comments?
June 26th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
420
June 26th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
210.5
June 26th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
311
June 26th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
I say fux it!
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the act. Notwithstanding the existence of a conservatorship pursuant
to the provisions of the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act (Part 1
(commencing with Section 5000) of Division 5 of the Welfare and
Institutions Code), the prosecuting attorney shall prove, as an
element of the crime, that a mental disorder or developmental or
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reasonable belief that the perpetrator is a public official. As used
in this paragraph, “public official” means a person employed by a
governmental agency who has the authority, as part of that position,
to incarcerate, arrest, or deport another. The perpetrator does not
actually have to be a public official.
(b) As used in this section, “duress” means a direct or implied
threat of force, violence, danger, or retribution sufficient to
coerce a reasonable person of ordinary susceptibilities to perform an
act which otherwise would not have been performed, or acquiesce in
an act to which one otherwise would not have submitted. The total
circumstances, including the age of the victim, and his or her
relationship to the defendant, are factors to consider in appraising
the existence of duress.
(c) As used in this section, “menace” means any threat,
declaration, or act which shows an intention to inflict an injury
upon another.
261.5. (a) Unlawful sexual intercourse is an act of sexual
intercourse accomplished with a person who is not the spouse of the
perpetrator, if the person is a minor. For the purposes of this
section, a “minor” is a person under the age of 18 years and an
“adult” is a person who is at least 18 years of age.
(b) Any person who engages in an act of unlawful sexual
intercourse with a minor who is not more than three years older or
three years younger than the perpetrator, is guilty of a misdemeanor.
(c) Any person who engages in an act of unlawful sexual
intercourse with a minor who is more than three years younger than
the perpetrator is guilty of either a misdemeanor or a felony, and
shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one
year, or by imprisonment in the state prison.
(d) Any person 21 years of age or older who engages in an act of
unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor who is under 16 years of age
is guilty of either a misdemeanor or a felony, and shall be punished
by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or by
imprisonment in the state prison for two, three, or four years.
(e) (1) Notwithstanding any other provision of this section, an
adult who engages in an act of sexual intercourse with a minor in
violation of this section may be liable for civil penalties in the
following amounts:
(A) An adult who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse
with a minor less than two years younger than the adult is liable for
a civil penalty not to exceed two thousand dollars ($2,000).
(B) An adult who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse
with a minor at least two years younger than the adult is liable for
a civil penalty not to exceed five thousand dollars ($5,000).
(C) An adult who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse
with a minor at least three years younger than the adult is liable
for a civil penalty not to exceed ten thousand dollars ($10,000).
(D) An adult over the age of 21 years who engages in an act of
unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor under 16 years of age is
liable for a civil penalty not to exceed twenty-five thousand dollars
($25,000).
(2) The district attorney may bring actions to recover civil
penalties pursuant to this subdivision. From the amounts collected
for each case, an amount equal to the costs of pursuing the action
shall be deposited with the treasurer of the county in which the
judgment was entered, and the remainder shall be deposited in the
Underage Pregnancy Prevention Fund, which is hereby created in the
State Treasury. Amounts deposited in the Underage Pregnancy
Prevention Fund may be used only for the purpose of preventing
underage pregnancy upon appropriation by the Legislature.
(3) In addition to any punishment imposed under this section, the
judge may assess a fine not to exceed seventy dollars ($70) against
any person who violates this section with the proceeds of this fine
to be used in accordance with Section 1463.23. The court shall,
however, take into consideration the defendant’s ability to pay, and
no defendant shall be denied probation because of his or her
inability to pay the fine permitted under this subdivision.
261.6. In prosecutions under Section 261, 262, 286, 288a, or 289,
in which consent is at issue, “consent” shall be defined to mean
positive cooperation in act or attitude pursuant to an exercise of
free will. The person must act freely and voluntarily and have
knowledge of the nature of the act or transaction involved.
A current or previous dating or marital relationship shall not be
sufficient to constitute consent where consent is at issue in a
prosecution under Section 261, 262, 286, 288a, or 289.
Nothing in this section shall affect the admissibility of evidence
or the burden of proof on the issue of consent.
261.7. In prosecutions under Section 261, 262, 286, 288a, or 289,
in which consent is at issue, evidence that the victim suggested,
requested, or otherwise communicated to the defendant that the
defendant use a condom or other birth control device, without
additional evidence of consent, is not sufficient to constitute
consent.
262. (a) Rape of a person who is the spouse of the perpetrator is
an act of sexual intercourse accomplished under any of the following
circumstances:
(1) Where it is accomplished against a person’s will by means of
force, violence, duress, menace, or fear of immediate and unlawful
bodily injury on the person or another.
(2) Where a person is prevented from resisting by any intoxicating
or anesthetic substance, or any controlled substance, and this
condition was known, or reasonably should have been known, by the
accused.
(3) Where a person is at the time unconscious of the nature of the
act, and this is known to the accused. As used in this paragraph,
“unconscious of the nature of the act” means incapable of resisting
because the victim meets one of the following conditions:
(A) Was unconscious or asleep.
(B) Was not aware, knowing, perceiving, or cognizant that the act
occurred.
(C) Was not aware, knowing, perceiving, or cognizant of the
essential characteristics of the act due to the perpetrator’s fraud
in fact.
(4) Where the act is accomplished against the victim’s will by
threatening to retaliate in the future against the victim or any
other person, and there is a reasonable possibility that the
perpetrator will execute the threat. As used in this paragraph,
“threatening to retaliate” means a threat to kidnap or falsely
imprison, or to inflict extreme pain, serious bodily injury, or
death.
(5) Where the act is accomplished against the victim’s will by
threatening to use the authority of a public official to incarcerate,
arrest, or deport the victim or another, and the victim has a
reasonable belief that the perpetrator is a public official. As used
in this paragraph, “public official” means a person employed by a
governmental agency who has the authority, as part of that position,
to incarcerate, arrest, or deport another. The perpetrator does not
actually have to be a public official.
(b) As used in this section, “duress” means a direct or implied
threat of force, violence, danger, or retribution sufficient to
coerce a reasonable person of ordinary susceptibilities to perform an
act which otherwise would not have been performed, or acquiesce in
an act to which one otherwise would not have submitted. The total
circumstances, including the age of the victim, and his or her
relationship to the defendant, are factors to consider in apprising
the existence of duress.
(c) As used in this section, “menace” means any threat,
declaration, or act that shows an intention to inflict an injury upon
another.
(d) If probation is granted upon conviction of a violation of this
section, the conditions of probation may include, in lieu of a fine,
one or both of the following requirements:
(1) That the defendant make payments to a battered women’s
shelter, up to a maximum of one thousand dollars ($1,000).
(2) That the defendant reimburse the victim for reasonable costs
of counseling and other reasonable expenses that the court finds are
the direct result of the defendant’s offense.
For any order to pay a fine, make payments to a battered women’s
shelter, or pay restitution as a condition of probation under this
subdivision, the court shall make a determination of the defendant’s
ability to pay. In no event shall any order to make payments to a
battered women’s shelter be made if it would impair the ability of
the defendant to pay direct restitution to the victim or
court-ordered child support. Where the injury to a married person is
caused in whole or in part by the criminal acts of his or her spouse
in violation of this section, the community property may not be used
to discharge the liability of the offending spouse for restitution to
the injured spouse, required by Section 1203.04, as operative on or
before August 2, 1995, or Section 1202.4, or to a shelter for costs
with regard to the injured spouse and dependents, required by this
section, until all separate property of the offending spouse is
exhausted.
263. The essential guilt of rape consists in the outrage to the
person and feelings of the victim of the rape. Any sexual
penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the crime.
264. (a) Rape, as defined in Section 261 or 262, is punishable by
imprisonment in the state prison for three, six, or eight years.
(b) In addition to any punishment imposed under this section the
judge may assess a fine not to exceed seventy dollars ($70) against
any person who violates Section 261 or 262 with the proceeds of this
fine to be used in accordance with Section 1463.23. The court shall,
however, take into consideration the defendant’s ability to pay, and
no defendant shall be denied probation because of his or her
inability to pay the fine permitted under this subdivision.
264.1. The provisions of Section 264 notwithstanding, in any case
in which the defendant, voluntarily acting in concert with another
person, by force or violence and against the will of the victim,
committed an act described in Section 261, 262, or 289, either
personally or by aiding and abetting the other person, that fact
shall be charged in the indictment or information and if found to be
true by the jury, upon a jury trial, or if found to be true by the
court, upon a court trial, or if admitted by the defendant, the
defendant shall suffer confinement in the state prison for five,
seven, or nine years.
264.2. (a) Whenever there is an alleged violation or violations of
subdivision (e) of Section 243, or Section 261, 261.5, 262, 273.5,
286, 288a, or 289, the law enforcement officer assigned to the case
shall immediately provide the victim of the crime with the “Victims
of Domestic Violence” card, as specified in subparagraph (G) of
paragraph (9) of subdivision (c) of Section 13701.
(b) (1) The law enforcement officer, or his or her agency, shall
immediately notify the local rape victim counseling center, whenever
a victim of an alleged violation of Section 261, 261.5, 262, 286,
288a, or 289 is transported to a hospital for any medical evidentiary
or physical examination. The victim shall have the right to have a
sexual assault counselor, as defined in Section 1035.2 of the
Evidence Code, and a support person of the victim’s choosing present
at any medical evidentiary or physical examination.
(2) Prior to the commencement of any initial medical evidentiary
or physical examination arising out of a sexual assault, a victim
shall be notified orally or in writing by the medical provider that
the victim has the right to have present a sexual assault counselor
and at least one other support person of the victim’s choosing.
(3) The hospital may verify with the law enforcement officer, or
his or her agency, whether the local rape victim counseling center
has been notified, upon the approval of the victim.
(4) A support person may be excluded from a medical evidentiary or
physical examination if the law enforcement officer or medical
provider determines that the presence of that individual would be
detrimental to the purpose of the examination.
265. Every person who takes any woman unlawfully, against her will,
and by force, menace or duress, compels her to marry him, or to
marry any other person, or to be defiled, is punishable by
imprisonment in the state prison.
266. Every person who inveigles or entices any unmarried female, of
previous chaste character, under the age of 18 years, into any
house of ill fame, or of assignation, or elsewhere, for the purpose
of prostitution, or to have illicit carnal connection with any man;
and every person who aids or assists in such inveiglement or
enticement; and every person who, by any false pretenses, false
representation, or other fraudulent means, procures any female to
have illicit carnal connection with any man, is punishable by
imprisonment in the state prison, or by imprisonment in a county jail
not exceeding one year, or by a fine not exceeding two thousand
dollars ($2,000), or by both such fine and imprisonment.
266a. Every person who, within this state, takes any person against
his or her will and without his or her consent, or with his or her
consent procured by fraudulent inducement or misrepresentation, for
the purpose of prostitution, as defined in subdivision (b) of Section
647, is punishable by imprisonment in the state prison, and a fine
not exceeding two thousand dollars ($2,000).
266b. Every person who takes any other person unlawfully, and
against his or her will, and by force, menace, or duress, compels him
or her to live with such person in an illicit relation, against his
or her consent, or to so live with any other person, is punishable by
imprisonment in the state prison.
266c. Every person who induces any other person to engage in sexual
intercourse, sexual penetration, oral copulation, or sodomy when his
or her consent is procured by false or fraudulent representation or
pretense that is made with the intent to create fear, and which does
induce fear, and that would cause a reasonable person in like
circumstances to act contrary to the person’s free will, and does
cause the victim to so act, is punishable by imprisonment in a
county jail for not more than one year or in the state prison for
two, three, or four years.
As used in this section, “fear” means the fear of physical injury
or death to the person or to any relative of the person or member of
the person’s family.
266d. Any person who receives any money or other valuable thing for
or on account of placing in custody any other person for the purpose
of causing the other person to cohabit with any person to whom the
other person is not married, is guilty of a felony.
266e. Every person who purchases, or pays any money or other
valuable thing for, any person for the purpose of prostitution as
defined in subdivision (b) of Section 647, or for the purpose of
placing such person, for immoral purposes, in any house or place
against his or her will, is guilty of a felony.
266f. Every person who sells any person or receives any money or
other valuable thing for or on account of his or her placing in
custody, for immoral purposes, any person, whether with or without
his or her consent, is guilty of a felony.
266g. Every man who, by force, intimidation, threats, persuasion,
promises, or any other means, places or leaves, or procures any other
person or persons to place or leave, his wife in a house of
prostitution, or connives at or consents to, or permits, the placing
or leaving of his wife in a house of prostitution, or allows or
permits her to remain therein, is guilty of a felony and punishable
by imprisonment in the state prison for two, three or four years; and
in all prosecutions under this section a wife is a competent witness
against her husband.
266h. (a) Except as provided in subdivision (b), any person who,
knowing another person is a prostitute, lives or derives support or
maintenance in whole or in part from the earnings or proceeds of the
person’s prostitution, or from money loaned or advanced to or charged
against that person by any keeper or manager or inmate of a house or
other place where prostitution is practiced or allowed, or who
solicits or receives compensation for soliciting for the person, is
guilty of pimping, a felony, and shall be punishable by imprisonment
in the state prison for three, four, or six years.
(b) Any person who, knowing another person is a prostitute, lives
or derives support or maintenance in whole or in part from the
earnings or proceeds of the person’s prostitution, or from money
loaned or advanced to or charged against that person by any keeper or
manager or inmate of a house or other place where prostitution is
practiced or allowed, or who solicits or receives compensation for
soliciting for the person, when the prostitute is a minor, is guilty
of pimping a minor, a felony, and shall be punishable as follows:
(1) If the person engaged in prostitution is a minor over the age
of 16 years, the offense is punishable by imprisonment in the state
prison for three, four, or six years.
(2) If the person engaged in prostitution is under 16 years of
age, the offense is punishable by imprisonment in the state prison
for three, six, or eight years.
266i. (a) Except as provided in subdivision (b), any person who
does any of the following is guilty of pandering, a felony, and shall
be punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for three, four,
or six years:
(1) Procures another person for the purpose of prostitution.
(2) By promises, threats, violence, or by any device or scheme,
causes, induces, persuades or encourages another person to become a
prostitute.
(3) Procures for another person a place as an inmate in a house of
prostitution or as an inmate of any place in which prostitution is
encouraged or allowed within this state.
(4) By promises, threats, violence or by any device or scheme,
causes, induces, persuades or encourages an inmate of a house of
prostitution, or any other place in which prostitution is encouraged
or allowed, to remain therein as an inmate.
(5) By fraud or artifice, or by duress of person or goods, or by
abuse of any position of confidence or authority, procures another
person for the purpose of prostitution, or to enter any place in
which prostitution is encouraged or allowed within this state, or to
come into this state or leave this state for the purpose of
prostitution.
(6) Receives or gives, or agrees to receive or give, any money or
thing of value for procuring, or attempting to procure, another
person for the purpose of prostitution, or to come into this state or
leave this state for the purpose of prostitution.
(b) Any person who does any of the acts described in subdivision
(a) with another person who is a minor is guilty of pandering, a
felony, and shall be punishable as follows:
(1) If the other person is a minor over the age of 16 years, the
offense is punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for three,
four, or six years.
(2) If the other person is under 16 years of age, the offense is
punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for three, six, or
eight years.
266j. Any person who intentionally gives, transports, provides, or
makes available, or who offers to give, transport, provide, or make
available to another person, a child under the age of 16 for the
purpose of any lewd or lascivious act as defined in Section 288, or
who causes, induces, or persuades a child under the age of 16 to
engage in such an act with another person, is guilty of a felony and
shall be imprisoned in the state prison for a term of three, six, or
eight years, and by a fine not to exceed fifteen thousand dollars
($15,000).
266k. (a) Upon the conviction of any person for a violation of
Section 266h, 266i, or 266j, the court may, in addition to any other
penalty or fine imposed, order the defendant to pay an additional
fine not to exceed five thousand dollars ($5,000). In setting the
amount of the fine, the court shall consider any relevant factors
including, but not limited to, the seriousness and gravity of the
offense and the circumstances of its commission, whether the
defendant derived any economic gain as the result of the crime, and
the extent to which the victim suffered losses as a result of the
crime. Every fine imposed and collected under this section shall be
deposited in the Victim-Witness Assistance Fund to be available for
appropriation to fund child sexual exploitation and child sexual
abuse victim counseling centers and prevention programs under Section
13837.
(b) If the court orders a fine to be imposed pursuant to this
section, the actual administrative cost of collecting that fine, not
to exceed 2 percent of the total amount paid, may be paid into the
general fund of the county treasury for the use and benefit of the
county.
267. Every person who takes away any other person under the age of
18 years from the father, mother, guardian, or other person having
the legal charge of the other person, without their consent, for the
purpose of prostitution, is punishable by imprisonment in the state
prison, and a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars ($2,000).
269. (a) Any person who commits any of the following acts upon a
child who is under 14 years of age and seven or more years younger
than the person is guilty of aggravated sexual assault of a child:
(1) Rape, in violation of paragraph (2) or (6) of subdivision (a)
of Section 261.
(2) Rape or sexual penetration, in concert, in violation of
Section 264.1.
(3) Sodomy, in violation of paragraph (2) or (3) of subdivision
(c), or subdivision (d), of Section 286.
(4) Oral copulation, in violation of paragraph (2) or (3) of
subdivision (c), or subdivision (d), of Section 288a.
(5) Sexual penetration, in violation of subdivision (a) of Section
289.
(b) Any person who violates this section is guilty of a felony and
shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for 15 years
to life.
(c) The court shall impose a consecutive sentence for each offense
that results in a conviction under this section if the crimes
involve separate victims or involve the same victim on separate
occasions as defined in subdivision (d) of Section 667.6.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
OU812
June 26th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
WTF?
June 26th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
PENAL CODE
SECTION 273.8-273.88
273.8. The Legislature hereby finds that spousal abusers present a
clear and present danger to the mental and physical well-being of the
citizens of the State of California. The Legislature further finds
that the concept of vertical prosecution, in which a specially
trained deputy district attorney, deputy city attorney, or
prosecution unit is assigned to a case after arraignment and
continuing to its completion, is a proven way of demonstrably
increasing the likelihood of convicting spousal abusers and ensuring
appropriate sentences for those offenders. In enacting this chapter,
the Legislature intends to support increased efforts by district
attorneys’ and city attorneys’ offices to prosecute spousal abusers
through organizational and operational techniques that have already
proven their effectiveness in selected cities and counties in this
and other states.
273.81. (a) There is hereby established in the Department of
Justice a program of financial and technical assistance for district
attorneys’ or city attorneys’ offices, designated the Spousal Abuser
Prosecution Program. All funds appropriated to the Department of
Justice for the purposes of this chapter shall be administered and
disbursed by the Attorney General, and shall to the greatest extent
feasible, be coordinated or consolidated with any federal or local
funds that may be made available for these purposes.
The Department of Justice shall establish guidelines for the
provision of grant awards to proposed and existing programs prior to
the allocation of funds under this chapter. These guidelines shall
contain the criteria for the selection of agencies to receive funding
and the terms and conditions upon which the Department of Justice is
prepared to offer grants pursuant to statutory authority. The
guidelines shall not constitute rules, regulations, orders, or
standards of general application.
(b) The Attorney General may allocate and award funds to cities or
counties, or both, in which spousal abuser prosecution units are
established or are proposed to be established in substantial
compliance with the policies and criteria set forth in this chapter.
(c) The allocation and award of funds shall be made upon
application executed by the county’s district attorney or by the city’
s attorney and approved by the county board of supervisors or by the
city council. Funds disbursed under this chapter shall not supplant
local funds that would, in the absence of the California Spousal
Abuser Prosecution Program, be made available to support the
prosecution of spousal abuser cases. Local grant awards made under
this program shall not be subject to review as specified in Section
10295 of the Public Contract Code.
(d) Local government recipients shall provide 20 percent matching
funds for every grant awarded under this program.
273.82. Spousal abuser prosecution units receiving funds under this
chapter shall concentrate enhanced prosecution efforts and resources
upon individuals identified under selection criteria set forth in
Section 273.83. Enhanced prosecution efforts and resources shall
include, but not be limited to, all of the following:
(a) (1) Vertical prosecutorial representation, whereby the
prosecutor who, or prosecution unit that, makes all major court
appearances on that particular case through its conclusion, including
bail evaluation, preliminary hearing, significant law and motion
litigation, trial, and sentencing.
(2) Vertical counselor representation, whereby a trained domestic
violence counselor maintains liaison from initial court appearances
through the case’s conclusion, including the sentencing phase.
(b) The assignment of highly qualified investigators and
prosecutors to spousal abuser cases. “Highly qualified” for the
purposes of this chapter means any of the following:
(1) Individuals with one year of experience in the investigation
and prosecution of felonies.
(2) Individuals with at least two years of experience in the
investigation and prosecution of misdemeanors.
(3) Individuals who have attended a program providing domestic
violence training as approved by the agency or agencies designated by
the Director of Finance pursuant to Section 13820 or the Department
of Justice.
(c) A significant reduction of caseloads for investigators and
prosecutors assigned to spousal abuser cases.
(d) Coordination with local rape victim counseling centers,
spousal abuse services programs, and victim-witness assistance
programs. That coordination shall include, but not be limited to:
referrals of individuals to receive client services; participation in
local training programs; membership and participation in local task
forces established to improve communication between criminal justice
system agencies and community service agencies; and cooperating with
individuals serving as liaison representatives of local rape victim
counseling centers, spousal abuse victim programs, and victim-witness
assistance programs.
273.83. (a) An individual shall be the subject of a spousal abuser
prosecution effort who is under arrest for any act or omission
described in subdivisions (a) and (b) of Section 13700.
(b) In applying the spousal abuser selection criteria set forth in
subdivision (a), a district attorney or city attorney shall not
reject cases for filing exclusively on the basis that there is a
family or personal relationship between the victim and the alleged
offender.
(c) In exercising the prosecutorial discretion granted by Section
273.85, the district attorney or city attorney shall consider the
number and seriousness of the offenses currently charged against the
defendant.
273.84. Each district attorney’s or city attorney’s office
establishing a spousal abuser prosecution unit and receiving state
support under this chapter shall adopt and pursue the following
policies for spousal abuser cases:
(a) All reasonable prosecutorial efforts shall be made to resist
the pretrial release of a charged defendant meeting spousal abuser
selection criteria.
(b) All reasonable prosecutorial efforts shall be made to persuade
the court to impose the most severe authorized sentence upon a
person convicted after prosecution as a spousal abuser. In the
prosecution of an intrafamily sexual abuse case, discretion may be
exercised as to the type and nature of sentence recommended to the
court.
(c) All reasonable prosecutorial efforts shall be made to reduce
the time between arrest and disposition of charge against an
individual meeting spousal abuser criteria.
273.85. (a) The selection criteria set forth in Section 273.84
shall be adhered to for each spousal abuser case unless, in the
reasonable exercise of prosecutor’s discretion, extraordinary
circumstances require departure from those policies in order to
promote the general purposes and intent of this chapter.
(b) Each district attorney’s and city attorney’s office
establishing a spousal abuser prosecution unit and receiving state
support under this chapter shall submit the following information, on
a quarterly basis, to the Department of Justice:
(1) The number of spousal abuser cases referred to the district
attorney’s or city attorney’s office for possible filing.
(2) The number of spousal abuser cases filed for prosecution.
(3) The number of spousal abuser cases taken to trial.
(4) The number of spousal abuser cases tried that resulted in
conviction.
273.86. The characterization of a defendant as a “spousal abuser”
as defined by this chapter shall not be communicated to the trier of
fact.
273.87. The Department of Justice is encouraged to utilize Federal
Victims of Crimes Act (VOCA) funds or any other federal funds that
may become available in order to implement this chapter.
273.88. Administrative costs incurred by the Department of Justice
pursuant to the Spousal Abuser Prosecution Program shall not exceed 5
percent of the total funds allocated for the program.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Is that what you are charged with Dirtyraccoon?
June 26th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Dakota is all too familar with the PENAL CODE!
June 26th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
10 8
June 26th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
3ATM3
June 26th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
When someone says “I say fux it!” and than posts the penal code on rape, kind of makes you think. You need to talk to someone Dirty?
June 26th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
I think Jerry is taking a long 10-200
June 26th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
vegas raider Says:
June 26th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
When someone says “I say fux it!” and than posts the penal code on rape, kind of makes you think. You need to talk to someone Dirty?
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What does it make you think Vegas? How does that make you feel?
June 26th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Makes me think you have an “issue” with the structure of rape laws, actually and that makes me feel like you need to talk to someone. Hopefully not a lawyer.
June 26th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Rape, huh thats what it takes to make ya think???
Squad leader to Ravin… talk to me Jonny…
June 26th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Now I just need a good life insurance brooker.
June 26th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
and a Bail Bondsmen.
June 26th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
I need to talk to you Vegas. Was that an offer? Your correct, I am in a bad place.
June 26th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Weird!! I think I’m washing my hands with this right here, good luck to you Mr. DirtyRaccoon.
June 26th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
True true…
Good idea, I’ll wash my hands first too.
Wow, Mr. DirtyRaccoon, what respect!
June 26th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Nothing is over!! You can’t just turn it off!!
June 26th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Their all dead sir.!!
June 26th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
“The other part of Russell’s anatomy with which we in the Nation have concerns.
Will JaMarcus ever have the desire to be great? Does he already have it and just not show it? When is he going to step up and be the kind of leader we need?
Russell thus far has shown he’s a cool customer, but his unflappable nature also gives the appearance of indifference at times.
Every fan wants their QB to be the most passionate, most vocal guy on the field, and J-Rock simply doesn’t operate that way.
Thus, we are all a little curious as to his motivation and desire to play the game.
The addition of Jeff Garcia was meant to give a jolt to Russell’s development as added motivation and learning from example.
By all accounts, J-Rock is slowly grasping what he needs to do to be successful. He took a giant step in the head and heart department by indicating he was going to have a private workout session with tight ends and receivers.
If that happens, and if it’s done well, then concerns about his heart should begin to wane a little.
If it doesn’t happen, or if it’s not done very well, then the questions will amplify. He needs to show desire, passion, and the want to be great before his teammates or the Nation will buy into him completely.”
June 26th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
1500 comments…. no new blog. SUX!!
Being Friday, that means cross your fingers for Monday.
Hope all is okay, Jerry usually keeps us informed so its odd there is no comment.
June 26th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
THE GUT
Smaller than critics and detractors would have you believe, but not small enough for the Nation, honestly.
Russell was never 300 pds last year. That was a complete fabrication. But he was heavier than he should’ve been, and those pictures from his night of partying don’t look good either.
Granted, it was May, and he’s got another month to get into full playing condition.
The gut is synonymous with the head and the heart for this kid. Critics say he’s lazy, he’s not motivated now that he’s paid, and he likes food and good times too much to be a success.
His lack of being in shape shows his lack of desire and understanding of what it takes to be great.
From all accounts, he’s in better shape this season and is showing more quickness and speed in his legs. That’s good news. J-Rock is a very big man for a QB, and he’ll never have the look we expect. As long as he doesn’t actually approach 300 pounds in reality, everything should be fine.
The bigger he is, the harder he hits opponents.
June 26th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Kell, sorry I got u mixed up last week with that Beich dude.
June 26th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
KoolKell,
the end of your last post had the same timbre as a Jeryy Mc offering. If, if, if. Take the man at his word. JRuss said he was going to get things done on his(their) own. You have expressed the same as I that JaMarcus is the real deal. Kid is 23 years old and stepping up. Pretty cool that.
405, Jerry has begged off. It might 3,000 before he drags himself back.
June 26th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Al Davis,
Why do you promis me heaven, and put me through HE!!?
June 26th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
First let’s examine what went wrong with the 2008 Raiders offense. To begin with, the 2008 offseason was one of the most distracting, adverse offseasons in memory. The constant Davis/Kiffin bickering followed a Raiders spending spree which bought players that could never live up to their contracts. Then we had the head coach in Kiffin who flat out did not want to be there and was doing everything in his power to get fired. This kind of dysfunction alone would be enough to bring down any team and it certainly effected the Raiders as a whole and in particular, the young Raider offense.
Next, was the coaching staff, that had Kiffin and his inexperienced college ways to go along with John DeFilippi, the quarterbacks coach, attempting to guide and tutor the 22 year old franchise QB, JaMarcus Russell the ways of the NFL. The offseason’s escapades and the coaching staff at the beginning of the season were a definitive component of an inconsistent and underwhelming offense. Couple that with the fact that Russell had no veteran QB presence as a backup to tutor him on the ins and outs of the NFL.
June 26th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
I’ll just hold on to what I got.
We got each other, and thats alot!!
June 26th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
M Lonetree
I should have put quotation marks around those posts. They’re From The Bleacher Report.
Just posting some Raider stuff. It was getting a little weird in here.
June 26th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
“Now the reasons for optimism for the Raiders offense in 2009:
a stable and quiet offseason
a stable and experienced coaching staff, with quarterback guru Paul Hackett guiding JaMarcus Russell.
Jeff Garcia, an experienced, veteran QB, who will mentor and push JaMarcus and who can step in and win if called upon.
the offensive Line. Just by subtracting Kwame Harris from the team will cause the O-line to be improved. The addition of Pears, Khalif Barnes and Satele, as well as the encouraging play of Mario Henderson (no sacks allowed and no penalties), will have this unit improving the offense.
the wide receiver position was paid extensive attention in the draft and there will be a lot of competition in camp as a result. Javon Walker and his restructured contract, who will presumably be healthy for camp, will be added to the swiftly improving and talented Chaz Schillens and JLH to go along with the promising rookies.
Zach Miller, the soon-to-be All Pro tight end.
Lorenzo Neal. Great blocker, great leader, great teacher…Great signing.
running backs. The 2009 Raiders will employ the best depth at that position in the NFL, McFadden, Bush Fargas, Rankin and Gary Russell. Last seasons injuries clearly showed the need for at least 3 running backs and with McFadden returning healthy, this group should dominate.
the last 2 games of the 2008 season saw the Raiders put together consecutive impressive wins for the first time in 7 seasons in December. The play of JaMarcus Russell was a key part of those wins.
last and certainly not least, the maturing JaMarcus Russell. All of the above should be the formula that allows JaMarcus to succeed and become the elite quarterback that he is expected to be.
All of these factors in addition to Russell having another year of experience should have the Raiders steadily climbing up in the ranks of NFL offense and hopefully winning many more games.”
June 26th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
KoolKell,
I got that. I had a post about JRuss’ gut being a non-issue but it was moderated out. It was complimentary to the young man but it was deleted nonetheless.
June 26th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
I think the Mod has a horse in this race.
June 26th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
I leave the place for a few hours, and I come back to this?
We need our Fix Jerry!!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
M,
1- You said that Ayat… Is an Arabic mind set. It’s not sir, it’s a musl!m mind set.
2- you also said that the jih..ts brought that mind set with them in the 7th century.
In the 7th Century, the isl..ic empire expanded to that area, and it was an empire based on religion and not an Arabic Mind Set!!!
3- to compare my religion to Neo Cons of this country was insulting, but I know that wasn’t your intention.
So, “I aint mad at you, I got nothing but love for you” 2pac. lol
June 26th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Man, what a sweet frickin day!!
O, dude, stop harshing my buzz!!
June 26th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
M,
In the 7 century, isl@m started to grow, and late in the 7th century it became it became a great empire. It was 2 empires trying to control that area, and at the End, the Musl!m empire won. They weren’t called Jih..ts, it wan an empire army. Just like the Crusaders. Which had a lot of wars against that empire too.
June 26th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Saint,
That’s not me bro!!! It’s a monkey with a keyboard!! Monkey!!!!
Got D@mn Monkey!!!
He is killing me name!!! Stop Monkey!!
Expand the Mind!!!!!!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Jerry,
I need my fix!!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Maybe in my prev life I was a Monkey, and that’s why I’m hairy with big Ears!!
June 26th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
Or maybe a dog, they do say I’m loyal!!
June 26th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
uh, I think it’s time to step away from the box bro!
June 26th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Did you guys see this plane?
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_12700347
June 26th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
a bit drunk but stilll…..
Raider O… ragarding your germen american rant….
I totally agree…
when guys from minnesota and wisconsin visits and its the first for 3 generations visiting their “old” countries and they think they have anything to do with the 3 scandinavian countries we barf at them for their lunacy…. in fact how dare they they are all american nothing to do with us….
I never got how “irish” americans fron NJ or NY dare to call themselves “irish” they are all american, they has nothing to do with us europeans, in fact most often its those kinds of amreican that redicule us so…. chose sides, i dont care what, but they cant choose both….
June 26th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
has/have=)
June 26th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
—”The Lord gave Farrah Fawcett 1 wish when she died. She wished that all children in the world would be safe! The Lord granted her wish and killed Michael Jackson.”—
June 26th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
LMN,
LMAO @ 1525!!
June 26th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Saint,
Box!! Did you mean B@ng?? lol
June 26th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
LMN,
Saying African American to a 6th or 8th Generation American is Lunacy!! I agree! IMHO
June 26th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Good night LMN, and I’m glad you’re back.
Later Nation, it’s been a weird but fun Day.
June 26th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Later o
June 26th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
BTW im a German French Irish English American….LOL
June 27th, 2009 at 5:55 am
# r8rpaver Says:
June 26th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
BTW im a German French Irish English American….LOL
______________________________________________________
LOL! im a, hmmm well im just a Dane =)
June 27th, 2009 at 6:43 am
Morning NATION!!!
June 27th, 2009 at 6:46 am
1532 I am da man =)
June 27th, 2009 at 6:51 am
Jerry has either fallen off the planet,or wagon
June 27th, 2009 at 6:53 am
we can help you climb back up Jerr =)
June 27th, 2009 at 6:54 am
4eva…
all he can report about is how the grass straws bend on the alemeda field…. nothing happens, hence no reports…
June 27th, 2009 at 7:17 am
well maybe o’Jerry could fictionalize about,oh say our D-line
June 27th, 2009 at 7:42 am
As I made mention at #1500…. Jerry generally gives us a heads up of there will be some time without a post or no chat….
Really odd for Jerry to pull a Houdini and disappear.
Hope all is okay
June 27th, 2009 at 7:48 am
see post 1533&1534
June 27th, 2009 at 8:28 am
Jerry is sick of us. He is fed up with the Raiders.
He has entered a monastery in Tibet to seek the true meaning of life.
June 27th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Free Tibet!!!!
June 27th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Free Willy
June 27th, 2009 at 11:23 am
I need my fix Jerry!!!
June 27th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Free Dirty!!
June 27th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Free Jerry!!!!!
June 27th, 2009 at 11:50 am
LMAO,
I can’t top that!!! You win!!
LMAO
Free Jerry!!!!!!
June 27th, 2009 at 11:58 am
One Month till Football season!!!!!
June 27th, 2009 at 11:58 am
R8,
You’re French?!
Frenchie!!! The only war your people won was against themselves.
LMAO
June 27th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Frenchie,
Irish!!! That makes a lot of sense!!!
June 27th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Frenchie,
So how come you don’t like HW? Your people love them!! lol
June 27th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
O i have a little of everything in me….The french are sissys…. Just sit back and let the USA and England handle there business…Just say no to HW…. I dont eat chicken with the feathers on it ….Do you ?
June 27th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Its EFFING hot up here today O 105*
June 27th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
R8,
It’s 90+ down where I’m at!
June 27th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
R8,
I’m only palest!nian and American.
I like to keep it simple.
June 27th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Do you think Walker will play and be a good target for JR, or do we put him on IR in favor f the young guys?
We can’t cut him now, but we can next season. It’s uncapped!
June 27th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
He made a few good plays last year, but can he still play at a level that’s better than JLH, Chaz, DHB, Murphy, and even Watkins?
How many WRs to you think we will carry this year, 5 or 6?
June 27th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
R8,
I know you have a pool ( great for a day like this), but do you have AC?
June 27th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
I miss having AC, this house is old, so it doesn’t have one. Its from the 40s!
June 27th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
I’m renting it cause I got a great deal on it. I told the LL that I will fix it up, paint it, and do the floors ( it had carpet on top of wood for atleast 30yrs!! You can only imagine how hard it was to restore it!!! All by hand!!) he’d had to fix the roof and a few other things, and he did. I’m paying 600- $1000 LESS than renters in my area!
I told you I was cheap, there are no limits to how cheap I can be. lol
June 27th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Hey guys,just getting home from ot at work.Stopped at a local pub,and a question was asked that Im not SURE about.Has AL Davis ever said which Super Bowl team of the Raiders was the best?AND,If any team that came up a bit short MAY have been better in his opinion?(raiders) I think the 76 team was the best! RAIDERS!!
June 27th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Swamp coolers work great Raider O
June 27th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
4eva,
What’s a Swamp Cooler, and trust me, I’m scared to ask?! lol
June 27th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
O, its a metal box that sits on your roof.It has a water line inside with fiberglass panels and a fan.Water is directed over the fiberglass panels,the fan sucks the air from outside,passing through watered panels and viola,nise cool air thats hydrated.Works in dry climates only
June 27th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
My Brother in Law is in Vegas, he should be here in SD tomorrow. He is loving it there! He was suppose to leave Vegas today, but now he wants to stay an extra day.
I don’t understand how a Musl!m can have so much fun in Vegas. He doesn’t even like the Shows!!!! maybe shopping, who knows?? lol
June 27th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
4eva,
I’ll run it by the LL, maybe we can split the cost. Thx Dude.
The fans are not working, and reg ACs are too noisy!
June 27th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Central AC would be great, but the LL can’t afford it, and I’m way too cheap to buy one for a house that I don’t even own!
For me to buy an AC for this house, we would have to come up with a new contract. Lower rent by 50-$100 per month, and it’s a 2yr contract that can be only terminated by me.
June 27th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Didn’t the Raiders have a great team from 76-82?
June 27th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
And better teams from 1967- 1976?
June 27th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
As a teenager in January of ‘84 I went to my mom’s friends house for Super Sunday. As I found my way into their house(sporting my fav Raiders hat) I noted a banner on a wall in the hallway. It said, “Redskins”!! As I turned the corner into their living room there was the owner of the house, decked out in Redskins gear staring straight up at my hat. We through each other a couple of jabs but he eventually smiled and offered me a cheap beer. As the night and game wore on this dude got so drunk that he eventually passed out on his chair, missing the last half of the 4th quarter. It was great to be able to watch the Raiders destroy the vaunted Redskins in that game, made even better by sharing it with a Redskins fan. Later that night I kissed his daughter in their garage(my final jab)!!
June 27th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
They call me KoolKell, the ladies heart, from burning hell.
June 27th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
KK,
You got background music playing when you walk down the street??
June 27th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
SaintKaufman
Everyone knows that KooKell walks around with a defibrillator not a juke box.
June 27th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Raider O,YES ,the Raiders teams from the late 60s thru 80s were great/good,the question at the bar was,Has Al ever said which was the best SUPER BOWL TEAM,76/77,80/81 OR 83? And the follow up question was,did AL/YOU think that a RAIDER team that fell a bit short of the Super Bowl was as good or better? A few whiner fans had opinions,mostly JUNK!!!
June 27th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
When the girl first met me, she tried to fill me full of bull. But you can’t look up a mare mules assz and tell how big a load she can pull.
June 27th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Davidicus Lastis, San Fransisco, CA
03:33 PM ET
Who do think will have a breakout year for the Raiders this year?
Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
On offense, I would say one of our RBs — one of the trio we have — will have a breakout year. I think we’re going to have a strong year running the ball, and the guy who gets the majority of carries could have a big year. On defense, so far in camps this offseason Michael Huff has really been having a great offseason thus far. I know it’s a critical year for him, and I can see him making a jump.
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“On defense, so far in camps this offseason Michael Huff has really been having a great offseason thus far.”
Jerrah, what would you call this? A subtle hint from Scrabble to Al that he’d rather Huff not get clipped, or could Huff really be doing well when nobody in the media is watching?
June 27th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
I slapped a she elephant and dared her to mutter.
I can look up a bull’s assz and tell the price of butter.
June 27th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Saint,
LMAO @ both comments.
Gilbert,
I was born in 1979, so I don’t know much about those teams other than what I read and watch on TV. the 67 team was great, but the 76 had more stars on the team. I like your pick, and that would be the best Raider Team. IMO
As for which team Al would choose, I don’t think he would, and if he did, it would be the 67 or 76 team IMO.
June 27th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Why is Al a bad GM???!!!
Raiders POs apperarences in the NFL:
70, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 80, 82, 83, 84, 85, 90, 91, 93, 00, 01, and 02.
SBs:
76, 80, 83, and 02.
That’s good.
KK,
You say Al was a bad GM over the last 20 years and you talk about his sub .500 record, but you never mention that we had 6 POs appearences in the last 20 years!!
June 28th, 2009 at 12:05 am
Raider O,post 1573 and 1575,are NOT KK,as im sure you know!Im hoping ,again,that fans youre age will get that Super Bowl win,in Jack London Sq,cant explain it,just something YOU will never forget!Still waiting for the answer to 1572,if Jerry cant find his laptop,will continue this later! O,I forgot,RAIDERS!!!!
June 28th, 2009 at 4:58 am
Your eyes may shine and your teeth may glitter,but when you’re sh!tting me you’re sh!tting the sh!tter
June 28th, 2009 at 8:17 am
Good morning Nation.
Free Jerry!!!!!
June 28th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Gilbert,
The 02 SB was great for me!! To play in my hometown in San Diego at the DisChargers home field was just as good as winning that SB.
Ok, OK, not as good, but very close.
I Hate the Dischargers, can we give them to Mexico. They want an NFL team down there. Canada wants one too!! lol
June 28th, 2009 at 8:28 am
Good mornin’ Raider Nation, now for your Sunday blasphemy from TW:
You Christians crack me up, you’ll find Mother Mary & your saviour on toasted cheese sandwichs, pizza, toast, bathroom doors,office windows, and now this takes the cake. Oh yeah, he’s appears on cake too!!!!
http://www.disinfo.com/content/story.php?title=Jesus-Now-Appearing-on-Your-Cats-Butt-1
Get me a heaping bowl of Christianity, HHHmmmmmmm, good.
June 28th, 2009 at 8:39 am
A Dogs Butt!!!! That’s too much. IMHO
I’m not Christian, but that’s disrespectung Christ. It’s a dog’s butt!!!!!
June 28th, 2009 at 8:48 am
I thought it was Cool on windows, the Sky, etc…. But a Dogs Butt!!!
What’s wrong with you people, how bad do you want a sign??
June 28th, 2009 at 8:52 am
And why does Christ look white? He wasn’t from Europe, he was from the Middle East!!
June 28th, 2009 at 8:57 am
I’m just asking, I mean no disrespect! Especially not on a Sunday!
June 28th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Now O, they say it’s a cat’s butt. I know in the US & the UK fanatics find these images everywhere(or look so hard they think they do), in the Muslim community, since NO ONE can depict the image of Mohammed, do images of him pop up like Jesus/Mary & they ignore it? Do they call it blasphemy or do they just not mention it?
I’m sure you know by now I think sacred cows make the best hamburger, so if I do a Mohammed google image search will I go to Muslim “hell”?
What if I pray first?
O Lord,… ohh, You are so big,….so absolutely huge.
Gosh, we’re all really impressed down here, I can tell You.
Forgive us, O Lord, for this, our dreadful toadying, and… And barefaced flattery.
But You are so strong and, well, just so super Fantastic.
Amen.
June 28th, 2009 at 9:46 am
God backwards is Dog, so it seems completely plausible that an image of Christ would appear on a dogs rear end. Why not? Is a dog’s anus any less sacred than a piece of toast or a water stain?
June 28th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Kiss the Jesus to show your righteousness , faith and devotion!lol
I have to reboot, God’s jacking with my computer.
June 28th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Yes, the Raiders are GLOBAL my freinds…here you have a southamerican fan!!! I’d like to visit the Us in September and guess what, yes, attend to a RAIDER GAME!! I’d like to be in the season opener against the dis-chargers! Please advice me which section I should try to get for me & my wife. TOUCHDOWN RRRRRRAIIIIIIDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!
June 28th, 2009 at 10:09 am
TW,
Boy, you Craaazy!!
We don’t have things like that in !slam, it’s perception IMO. You look for it so you see it.
Now, we have weird things in !slam, we have people that beat themselves, so God can forgive them for what they have done 1500 years ago!!!!Craaazy!
You can fbs Fanatics every where
June 28th, 2009 at 10:18 am
South America Baby!!! We are Global!! I love it.
Where from in South America my brother?
June 28th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Dude from South America, how many coca leaves did you have to pick in order to earn enough money to see a Raider’ game? You should probably save your money. They are probably going to lose anyways.
June 28th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Welcome FSA, Raidernation resides here.
June 28th, 2009 at 10:25 am
TW,
Some Musl!ms say that we can’t draw or paint!! You know what I say to that? It’s between me and God, get a hobby you crazy MF!
June 28th, 2009 at 10:34 am
DMunoz 26 Says:
June 28th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Dude from South America, how many coca leaves did you have to pick in order to earn enough money to see a Raider’ game? You should probably save your money. They are probably going to lose anyways.
hahaha WEAK, as your bush-to-the-bengals BS
June 28th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Raider O, what happens when the dog/cat releases a turd? Is that a metaphor for his teaching? What’s the symbolisim mean here???? LOL You bet I might be crazy but how about compared to his followers? Why does my favorite author defines “A ‘disciple’ is an assh@le in search of a human being to attach itself to…”*
June 28th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Raider O Says:
June 28th, 2009 at 10:18 am
South America Baby!!! We are Global!! I love it.
Where from in South America my brother?
I’m from Montevideo-URUGUAY and yes dude, the RAIDERS ARE GLOBAL
June 28th, 2009 at 10:38 am
South America,
Excuse the Freak, we have a lot of them here!! You will see when you visit. lol
June 28th, 2009 at 10:41 am
RaiderTW Says:
June 28th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Welcome FSA, Raidernation resides here.
Thx dude! and you know there is one and only NATION, the RAIDERNATION!
June 28th, 2009 at 10:43 am
TW,
LMAO
June 28th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Raider O Says:
June 28th, 2009 at 10:38 am
South America,
Excuse the Freak, we have a lot of them here!! You will see when you visit. lol
LMAO! don’t worry bro
that little troll have enough dealing with his little live LOL
June 28th, 2009 at 10:49 am
FSA, ignore DMunoz 26 we usually do. I don’t read his posts to know it he’s a Cinc fan or what, he’s not a Raiders fan.
June 28th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Jerry: You’re fired…we haven’t had a post since Monday 6/22/09. Come on, use your imagination…stop mourning
Michael Jackson’s death. We all have to go sometime and his number was pulled from the barrel. Mourn some of his numerous debtor’s who won’t get paid. Of course it’s their fault for extending credit to a child molester. Great musician and performer, I will give him that. But life goes on for the living.
June 28th, 2009 at 11:54 am
GOAAALLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U-S-A!! U-S-A!!!!
(would have posted that earlier, but it took a good 5 minutes just to load the page, sign-in and than re-load the page. Come on Jerry get it together!!)
June 28th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Jerry,
Just post ” live Chat on Thursday” or whatever day you want, so we can have a new thread!
Do your job Sir!!!
June 28th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
From South America-just my opinion but the 3rd deck is full of gang bangers,Mt. Davis is too far away from the field and doesn’t give you the at the game feeling,the 1st deck is great but you’ll miss some of the action due to the teams on the sidelines.try and get tickets in the 2nd deck-the 200 sections-great views and loud.also,the luxury boxes and the club seats are great.
June 28th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
lefty12 Says:
June 28th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
From South America-just my opinion but the 3rd deck is full of gang bangers,Mt. Davis is too far away from the field and doesn’t give you the at the game feeling,the 1st deck is great but you’ll miss some of the action due to the teams on the sidelines.try and get tickets in the 2nd deck-the 200 sections-great views and loud.also,the luxury boxes and the club seats are great.
THX dude!! That was exactly what I was looking for!
GO RAIDERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSS
June 28th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Very Global… Mexican fan currently livin in Monterrey, Nuevo Leon, Mexico. Follow all the Raiders and rest of NFL thanks to mexican satelite company called “Sky” and its aliance with “NFL Sunday ticket” I get all games for bout $1,000 pesos… which is bout $70 dlls. U.S. Also thinking about going to a game in the black hole before al can get a deal done to get rid of it. I’ll also take that 2nd section advice. Thanks.
Touchdown.RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIDAAAAs!!!!!!!
p.s. just win baby!
June 28th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Just Sin Baby!!!
June 28th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
This is Jerry’s way of disciplining you guy’s. Letting you know who’s BOSS!!! hahahahaha
June 28th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
why do some get so upset when we don’t hear from Jerry for a while?most don’t post about what he wrote anyway.
June 28th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Rodsdays The last thing Big Al wants to do is get rid of the Black-hole. The Raiders have tried hard but unsuccessfully to acquire the name from the guys that stole it from me.
I named the STADIUM “The Black-hole” because of the crowd in the stadium when the Raiders are on the field. When those two things come together and the crowd starts cheering at a level that’s mind numbing. There is a momentum and phenomenon that takes place that’s hard to describe. At one point I was in the press box and saw the crowd literally carry the team to a victory,the other team had no chance. Because the crowd believed. It was then that I said it like going into a black-hole the other team was just overwhelmed.
I then started calling the Stadium the black-hole on a local radio station with a legendary host named Pete Franklin. The name just took off from there and this guy named Rob who now calls himself Black-hole Rob patented the name before I ever thought of it. I’ve regretted it since then.
But I do know that Al Davis loves the name and wants acquire it however the guy is asking way too much for something he stole.
June 28th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Great point Lefty12!! at least 50% of the post are off topic. Religion, politics and you name it.
June 28th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
RaiderO,
no need to respond, just digest an outsider’s anthropologocal view.
5,000 odd years ago a man had a son with a concubine. That son, when the man’s wife became pregnant with another son, was cast out with the concubine into the desert. The ensuing sibling rivalry has doomed the human race ever since.
That family pi$$ing contest of who is holier and more chosen by the uberFather has gone from the smallness it is and turned into internecine strife which has polarized mankind.
The tiresome story, one group or the other claiming victimhood, never changes.
As you might have guessed, the Persians never asked for the Arab invasion, just as they never asked for the Greeks or the Mongols to come. Same as the Naragansett, Hopi and Salish never asked for the Euros to come and conquer their ways.
Same old story. One group of humans claims they are better than another. Their excuse may be their idea of the divine or the color of their skin or their weaponry.
Shrug. Armageddon appears the only way out of such pettiness.
Have a nice day.
June 28th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
That chosen race was supposed to provide the human race with an example of obedience…..they failed.
June 28th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Finally,you come clean w/Pete Franklin,calls,etc What the RAIDERS need,in my opinion is a station that gives Raider fans a say,a SHOUT OUT of every thing silver and black,knbr are haters,ksfo,the so called flagship of the Raiders,nothing except game day info,nothing DURING the week!Jerry,hope youre ok,if not,have Steve or Jon jump in,take care Raiders!!!!
June 28th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Priest-the only problem with Davis getting the rights to the name “The Black Hole”,is if he were to move the team again,he could take the name with him and nowhere but the Oakland Coliseum(or a new local stadium) should the term be used.i couldn’t handle watching a game in say LA and have the stadium or one of the end zones called the black hole.
June 28th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Lefty12, I waould be shocked if the Raiders ever leave the area again. Mr Davis came back for a reason…….to stay. Now if we can just start to win other things will fall right into place.
They have some great ideas for the name and I’d love to see them get the rights. Mark Davis is much more of a marketing hawk as Mr Davis calls him, has great ideas for global marketing. The team is way ahead of the curve as far as that is concerned.
June 28th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
IMHO, the only members of the human race that can claim to better than everyone else is RAIDER NAZTION
June 28th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
2. The work ethic of quarterback JaMarcus Russell is still being questioned by many who have worked with him in the past and are working with him now. After he issued a call to his teammates to practice and finish the OTA days strong, he then disappeared and was AWOL on the last day. Russell must learn that talent alone is not going to make him successful. Dedication to becoming a better player is what he needs.
http://nationalfootballpost.com/Sunday-at-the-post-5987.html
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Big Dummy strikes again.
June 29th, 2009 at 12:55 am
lol@big dummy
June 29th, 2009 at 1:09 am
Lombardi sure is a dummy as well….
June 29th, 2009 at 5:53 am
So they say Jruss was awol, not good .
June 29th, 2009 at 5:56 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, WONDER IF THERE WILL BE A NEW THREAD B4 NEXT YEAR’S DRAFT ? LOMBARDI IS AN IDIOT,MAYBE THAT IS WHY THE RAIDER’S HIRED HIM…
June 29th, 2009 at 6:15 am
good morning Dirt Lot, NMF …
June 29th, 2009 at 6:19 am
this thread takes FOREVER to load!
maybe Jerry Mac is waiting for 2000 mod-approved posts ???
sad thing is we’ll probably be stuck with 1 post for the entire week again (slow NFL news week) until the Raiders report to training camp …
June 29th, 2009 at 6:21 am
Hola all. Nice to see that LMN didn’t get sh!tcanned with all the layoffs at Maersk I’ve been reading about. Now I can focus on whether Jerry still has a job…
June 29th, 2009 at 6:23 am
ROCKSTAR,NOMOREFARGAS, GOOD DAY.CRICKET’S AND ECHO’S IN HERE THIS MORNING..
June 29th, 2009 at 6:31 am
Well, this explains our QB’s mysterious absence…it was the call of the wild.
From wiki:
Walrus>Life cycle – In late spring and summer, several hundred thousand Pacific Walruses migrate from the Bering sea into the Chukchi sea through the relatively narrow Bering Strait.
June 29th, 2009 at 6:33 am
WILL ANYBODY HAVE THE NERV TO ASK MR RUSSELL IF AND WHY HE DID IN FACT BAIL ON HIS OWN PRACTICE SESSION..?
June 29th, 2009 at 6:34 am
good morning BSJ.
LOL @ JaWalrus!
June 29th, 2009 at 6:37 am
WILL ANYBODY HAVE THE NERV TO ASK MR RUSSELL IF AND WHY HE DID IN FACT BAIL ON HIS OWN PRACTICE SESSION..?
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Russell says “I’m a leader. “Do as I say”, not “Do as I do”
Javon Walker says “cr@p. you mean I ate 4 double cheeseburgers for nothing ?!?!?”
June 29th, 2009 at 6:43 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
June 29th, 2009 at 6:33 am
WILL ANYBODY HAVE THE NERV TO ASK MR RUSSELL IF AND WHY HE DID IN FACT BAIL ON HIS OWN PRACTICE SESSION..?
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I think the Lombardi claim was for the last day of OTAs, not Jamarcus’ supposed private passing practice.
And if you want to know why JRUSS went AWOL you will have to wait for the inside scoop from Dorco Boob. He’s camped outside HQ in his full wino outfit, getting the 411 like Fletch.
June 29th, 2009 at 6:48 am
If I lived in the Bay Area, I would seriously consider getting a walrus costume and a XXXXXL Russell jersey, and then parking myself in the front row next to Gorilla Rilla.
June 29th, 2009 at 6:48 am
BSJ: Fletch & Fletch Lives are two of the funniest movies of all time. Please don’t compare Chevy Chase (in his prime) to a strung out lowlife, like porko slob
June 29th, 2009 at 6:55 am
If I lived in the Bay Area, I would seriously consider getting a walrus costume and a XXXXXL Russell jersey
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you know how the Redskins have the hogettes? a bunch of fat dudes pressed up like pigs.
Oakland could have the Russellettes. a bunch of fat black dudes with shaved heads and a southern drawl wearing Russell jerseys. each holding a bucket of KFC
June 29th, 2009 at 7:35 am
Fletch…great movie…6′9″ with the afro…
June 29th, 2009 at 7:47 am
Dakota, you see that LMN has returned after working extra shifts to cover his Euro-coworker’s 37 weeks of annual vacation?
I’ve taken 3 days off all year and my boss thinks my priorities are not in line with the company’s objectives. So now I take a little vacation every half hour.
GO LAKERS!
June 29th, 2009 at 8:09 am
When Fletch goes to the AmericanLegion and starts talking about the guy and how he overcame an STD and then he starts singing the national anthem and hip hip hooray that is the shizzz.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!
June 29th, 2009 at 8:10 am
Three Players To Watch In NFL Supplemental Draft
Posted by Aaron Wilson on June 27, 2009, PFT.com
As the NFL supplemental draft approaches, at least three players are considered intriguing enough to potentially be drafted, according to Gil Brandt of NFL.com.
University of Kentucky defensive end Jeremy Jarmon headlines a list that also includes Central Michigan offensive tackle Joe McMahon and Florida State wide receiver Corey Surrency.
Jarmon is an All-Southeastern Conference pass rusher who was declared ineligible by the NCAA after testing positive for a diuretic, a banned substance under NCAA rules.
Jarmon is scheduled to hold a Pro Day campus workout on July 9 prior to the draft, which is set for July 16.
And the Philadelphia Eagles have displayed interest in Jarmon, bringing him in for a visit, according to Joe Schad of ESPN.com.
At Kentucky, Jarmon registered 13 1/2 sacks and 100 tackles over the past two seasons. Jarmon, who’s listed at 6′3″, 280 pounds, has 4.76 speed in the 40-yard dash.
A 6′5,” 210-pound junior college transfer, Surrency caught 12 passes for 237 yards and four touchdowns during his lone season at Florida State.
Surrency started twice last season, but was suspended for two games.
He was suspended for the Georgia Tech game for violating team rules. He was also suspended for the Boston College game because of his participation in a fight outside the student union.
Surrency, who had trouble with the law growing up in Miami, was declared ineligible by the NCAA due to playing two seasons of semi-pro indoor football in Florida after attending junior college. He lost a subsequent appeal.
McMahon is a two-time Golden Gloves boxing champion who attended Central Michigan after playing junior-college football at Joliet (Ill.) Junior College.
McMahon started at offensive guard and center for the Chippewas, but his academic problems derailed his collegiate career.
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should we take a look at one or two of these guys? Why not OL Joe McMahon?
June 29th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Kenny Britt Learning The Ropes
Posted by Aaron Wilson on June 27, 2009, PFT.com
As a Rutgers senior, Kenny Britt was the Scarlet Knights’ primary downfield weapon.
The imposing wide receiver caught 87 passes for 1,371 yards and seven touchdowns last year.
As the Tennessee Titans’ first-round draft pick, though, Britt is being eased into the lineup.
According to Gary Estwick of the Tennessean, Britt is, for now, just getting acclimated to the NFL as he works behind veterans Nate Washington and Justin Gage.
“Kenny can come in, relax and learn the offense,” Titans receivers coach Fred Graves said of Britt, the first wide receiver the Titans have taken in the first round since they picked Kevin Dyson in the 1998 NFL Draft instead of Randy Moss. “And at some point and time, learn what his role is.”
Like many rookie wide receivers, Britt is experiencing a learning curve.
Like many rookie wide receivers, he’s also contending with a common ailment: a nagging hamstring injury.
For now, the tougher obstacle for the 30th overall pick is absorbing the complexities of the Titans’ playbook.
“Really, you have to know what everybody is doing on this level,” Britt said. “You can’t just know what you’re doing, in case they want to put you in a different spot.”
Based on his collegiate career and his size-speed combination (6′3,” 218 pounds and a 4.4 time in the 40-yard dash), Britt seems well-equipped to eventually emerge as a solid go-to option for the Titans.
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We should treat DHB the same way!
June 29th, 2009 at 8:18 am
Said Chargers RB LaDainian Tomlinson of his team’s version of the Wildcat, “We’re calling it the ‘Frog.’ I am the quarterback, and there is a naked [bootleg] where I roll out and throw the ball.”
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please pass this note along to John Marshall. Watch for split back sets with LT & Sproles. LT lined up on the left, runs to the right, Sproles runs out of the backfield and becomes the primary target (besides Gates) on the play. Please have Howard on Sproles and Huff on Gates for this play. Thanks! RR
June 29th, 2009 at 8:22 am
“Changing the culture of an NFL team is not an easy task. But in 2008, former Warrior Samson Satele helped the Miami Dolphins improve from a one win team to an AFC power.
In March, Satele signed on with the Oakland Raiders who won just five games last season. Still, Satele says he’s positive that he’ll be the base of another successful project.
“If Tom Cable sees it, he’s been in there for about four years now and the rest of the guys have been there for about six years. He’s saying that these guys are working the hardest since he’s been there. He always talks about we’re not going to be like how we were the last five or six years, we’re not going to be like those teams last year or the year before. It’s the same things that Sporano said and it worked out good. The guys in Oakland we just got to believe in it and good things will happen,” said Satele.
Although Satele was a pass blocker at UH, he’s become more of a run blocking center in the pros. It’s a skill that fits in Oakland and a style that he looks forward to.”
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Am I reading this wrong? Does Satele really believe that Tom Cable has been around the Raiders for almost 4 years?
June 29th, 2009 at 8:24 am
From Bill Williamson’s Q&A on ESPN:
Michael from Fremont, Ca. wants to know if Javon Walker is in Oakland’s plans this season.
BW: It’s all up to Walker’s health. He had another knee surgery this offseason, which he didn’t tell the team about. Walker has been overwhelmed by injuries in three of the past four seasons. If he can stay healthy, Walker may be able to help Oakland’s young receiving corps. But I get the feeling Oakland is not counting on him. That’s the wise move. Walker has been too physically unreliable to count on. If he can play, it will be a bonus. If not, it could be the end of his once-productive career.
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That’s a heavy load on the shoulders of Higgins & Schilens! Let’s hope Zach Miller, Darren McFadden & Michael Bush can stay healthy, so they can take some of the load off the young WR’s in the passing game..
June 29th, 2009 at 8:28 am
Bill Williamson joined ESPN.com in 2008 after four seasons covering the Denver Broncos for the Denver Post.
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Adam Schefter covered the Denver Broncos for the Denver Post for 15 years. He began a relationship with many major Bronco athletes and coaches, and has subsequently helped write their biographies, including Bill Romanowski, Mike Shanahan and Terrell Davis. While with the ‘Post’, Schefter won the Colorado Information Gatherer of the year award in 2002 and 2003.
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Ever wonder why the media HATES the Oakland Raiders?
June 29th, 2009 at 8:28 am
Projected record: 2-14. Now that it appears the Lions finally have a clue minus Matt Millen, Oakland is officially the most dysfunctional franchise in the NFL and perhaps all of U.S. professional sports (or just ahead of the Clippers). Oakland’s best chance to win games will be when Cable makes the tough decision to bench Russell and give Garcia a chance to lead the offense.
Ryan O’Halloran
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What, even I think we can win at least 5 games!
June 29th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Central Michigan’s Joe McMahon is 6′3″ 290 lbs.
obviously not the biggest OL in the world, but Cable’s o-line relies more heavily on quickness and cut blocks than mass or brute strength. I think he’d be a good fit here and would add some much needed competition at guard and tackle …
June 29th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Bo,
37 weeks of vacation….that’s funny. I’ve taken one real vacation (an entire work week off) once in the past four years…and it was my honeymoon. Being self-employed is great, but getting extended time off can be difficult.
June 29th, 2009 at 8:55 am
good morning Dakota …
5 games???
you’re such a homer!
June 29th, 2009 at 9:03 am
M,
I know you said no need to respond, but I want to. I respect you and you views, opinions, etc… I may not agree with them, but I respect them. I agree with what you said, nut thad not the point sir. In that one post you wrote, and what I didnt like about it was that you blamed the Arabs for what happened to the Persians. It wasn’t the Arabs, it was a Musl!m Empire Who conquered the Persians. I noticed that you like history, so I wanted to share this info with you.
Thank you for your time, and have a great day sir.
June 29th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Correction: but that’s not the point….
June 29th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Unfortunate post about Russell allegedly skipping the last OTAs. Do the Raiders even put incentive clauses into the contracts to encourage participation?
I won’t make a judgement on this given how the last time he missed time it was all for legitimate reasons.
Bottom line is Russell will be judged by what happens on the field. As long as he can build on his performance from the last 3 or so games from last year…the OTAs and all that won’t mean anything
June 29th, 2009 at 9:17 am
good morning Raider O …
how are you doing today?
June 29th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Good morning RR, Dakota, and Nation.
June 29th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Russell missed a day of the OTAs? Someone better have died!
June 29th, 2009 at 9:25 am
RR,
All is well, thank you for asking. My brother in law is in town, he arrived yesterday.
June 29th, 2009 at 9:28 am
Dakota Says:
June 29th, 2009 at 8:28 am
Projected record: 2-14. Now that it appears the Lions finally have a clue minus Matt Millen, Oakland is officially the most dysfunctional franchise in the NFL and perhaps all of U.S. professional sports (or just ahead of the Clippers). Oakland’s best chance to win games will be when Cable makes the tough decision to bench Russell and give Garcia a chance to lead the offense.
Ryan O’Halloran
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What, even I think we can win at least 5 games
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A lot of that is piling on from the media. Its fun for them to write about the Raiders being down and how Al Davis has supposedly lost it. Interesting, the Raiders won 5 games last year. 7 other teams won the same or fewer games last year. Another two or three teams had one or two more wins. So then you have to ask, did the Raiders some how get worse during the offseason? While the draft didn’t really improve the team much, they did add a Ellis, Satele and Barnes. The did not lose any key starters and all of their key contributors will have another year of experience. DMAC will be 100% and Bush, hopefully, will be fully utilized.
The media people are just piling on.
June 29th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Bottom line is Russell will be judged by what happens on the field.
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good morning S&B …
Agreed. This is the Al Davis philosophy. Nnamdi has attended how many of the OTA’s? 1 or 2? and yet we’re counting on him to be the leader of the defense! He won’t be able to call guys out for not working hard enough when they’ve been to the OTA’s and he hasn’t. Having said that, when Nnamdi takes the field, he’s still going to be the most dominant DB on the roster.
Same goes for Russell. We’re counting on him to be the leader of the offense. If Jeff Garcia impresses while Russell is away and if Russell is away for stupid reasons, this won’t be pretty. Garcia wants to start, even though he’s at end end of his career. If we have a divided locker room on who the starting QB should be, Cable’s job will get much harder. How is he going to start Russell if Garcia outplays him every time they take the field? The more reps for Garcia, the better feel he’s going to get for the offense and the better chemistry he’s going to build with his teammates, especially the WR’s. I’m sure they love a guy hitting them in the chest with the football, instead of the feet. I’ve never heard anybody say that Garcia “hangs his targets out to dry and sets them up to get laid out” like future Hall of Famer told Zach Miller about Russell. This isn’t good fellas. not at all.
June 29th, 2009 at 9:37 am
RaiderRockstar,
I hope Schilens and JLH are the two starting receivers. Russell was able to move the ball down the field with those two and Miller as the receiving targets. I say stick with them. As for Javon Walker, let him be the fill in guy or something….JLH is going into his 3rd year so he should be up for the added pressure and Chaz Schilens will be the best receiver on the team
June 29th, 2009 at 9:38 am
I still can’t believe ronald curry is not paralyzed or even dead from all the qbs that hung him out to dry over the year. Now he can’t catch. I feel badly that his career didn’t take off because we haven’t had a qb for 7 years.
ct raider
June 29th, 2009 at 9:39 am
S&B Defense:
coaching staff – Lane Kiffin, Greg Knapp, John Defilippo, James Cregg, Rob Ryan, Keith Millard, Don Martindale, Darren Perry, Brian Schneider, etc.
players – DeAngelo Hall, Robert Thomas, Rashad Baker, Kalimba Edwards, Gibril Wilson, Jake Grove, Ronald Curry, Ashley Lelie, Drew Carter, Tui, Justin Griffith, Kwame Harris, Seth Wand & Fred Wakefield aren’t considered “key losses”?
Come on man. stop drinking the Kool-Aid. we’d be lucky to win 2 games without this cast of superstars!
June 29th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Regarding the JRuss issue, I wish any of those posts would indicate where the source came from.
Practice closed… so how can the story be confirmed or refuted or if the reason was AWOL or something else.
June 29th, 2009 at 9:51 am
RaiderRockstar,
As long as Russell keeps the momentum from the last 3 or so games last year, he will be fine.
If Garcia was about 5 years younger, then I could see him as a viable alternative. But at 39 yrs old, playing him would be a waste of time. This is not a playoff caliber team. If the Raiders were as talented as the Vikings then a 39 yr old QB could make sense.
Garcia is not really that good of a QB. Another fiery guy with limited skills that has to rely on overachieving and “grit” to tough out games. He can’t go down field, his accuracy is “ok”, he relies on his feet a little too much and he’s been released by some 6 teams in his career. Garcia is the type of QB you DON’T want to see playing unless there is an injury.
To me it would be a wasted year if Garcia started for any reason other than injury. Like when KFC was here or when they played Aaron Brooks over Walter…or the Jay Schroeder, Jeff Hostetler, Jeff George, Wade Wilson years.
If you don’t have a SB caliber team, you better be trying to develop a franchise QB.
June 29th, 2009 at 9:58 am
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
RRS? Why are you hyperventilating so? SnB came in here and made a little sense this morning. Most the other later posts are just slamming Russell, based on nothing more than internet (read: UNEDITED/LARGELY UNVERIFIED) reports. Even when reports come from “credible” sources (networks, agents, the teams themselves, etc.), the info is wrong in too many cases to count. Any time JaMarcus is away from the team during team activities will be well-justified.
Methinks it’s time to stop the JaMarcus slams, if he hasn’t done anything to deserve them. His weight? What is it? If you don’t know, but he carries it well, and does all the things he’s done his entire life as an athlete…then it doesn’t matter. Slam the guy when he fails, if that’s what gets you off — but the piling-on is ridiculous at this stage.
Take a breath, give the kid a break — he’s done just about everything that’s been asked of him. And his improvement in practice has been well noted.
June 29th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Here is the Lion’s WR corps:
Calvin Johnson, Dennis Northcutt, Bryant Johnson, Ronald Curry, Keary Colbert, Adam Jennings, Eric Fowler, John Standeford, Tommy Saunders, etc.
Plus they drafted Derrick Williams, signed Demir Boldin (Anquan’s brother) and 2 TE’s Brandon Pettigrew & Dan Gronkowski
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I doubt Ronald Curry even sticks with the lowly Lions!
June 29th, 2009 at 10:04 am
RRS? Why are you hyperventilating so?
Any time JaMarcus is away from the team during team activities will be well-justified
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how do you know this? take off the Raider colored glasses for a second and look at reality!
Besides Mayock, Lombardi was the only one who predicted the Raiders would select Darrius Heyward-Bey. When he did, we all laughed at him … said he wasn’t a “credible source”. Here you go again
June 29th, 2009 at 10:07 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 29th, 2009 at 9:39 am
S&B Defense:
coaching staff – Lane Kiffin, Greg Knapp, John Defilippo, James Cregg, Rob Ryan, Keith Millard, Don Martindale, Darren Perry, Brian Schneider, etc.
players – DeAngelo Hall, Robert Thomas, Rashad Baker, Kalimba Edwards, Gibril Wilson, Jake Grove, Ronald Curry, Ashley Lelie, Drew Carter, Tui, Justin Griffith, Kwame Harris, Seth Wand & Fred Wakefield aren’t considered “key losses”?
Come on man. stop drinking the Kool-Aid. we’d be lucky to win 2 games without this cast of superstars!
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LOL! Point is well taken. Just shows that the media doesn’t do its job. The only guys on that list that were helpful (Griffith and Grove) and they were replaced with equal or better talent.
Shows how lazy the media is. The Raiders got better at several positions:
deAngelo Hall upgraded to Chris Johnson
Lelie/Curry/injured Walker upgraded to JLH/Schilens/healthy Walker
Kwame Harris quantum leaped to Mario Henderson
Griffith upgraded to Neal (best FB in the league)
Burgess upgraded to Ellis
Fargas (hopefully upgraded) to DMAC/Bush
and a 2nd blocking tight end to allow Miller more chances to catch passes
The media is plain lazy and uninformed…..to say 2-14 is a joke.
Of all the games they play: Only the Steelers and Giants are games that they “probably” have no shot of winning. The rest of the games on the schedule should be competitive.
June 29th, 2009 at 10:22 am
RIP Billy Mays! Bummer. I watched a few of those Pitchmen episodes on Discovery and he seemed like a good guy.
June 29th, 2009 at 10:25 am
RIP Billy Mays! Bummer. I watched a few of those Pitchmen episodes on Discovery and he seemed like a good guy.
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no kidding!
I think the Sham Wow guy had something to do with this …
June 29th, 2009 at 10:32 am
And…we “all” didn’t discount all the reports coming from all quarters during the run-up to Draft Day. Even from Lombardi.
Anybody…ANYBODY…who followed the Raiders for a few years knew Al Davis was as likely to pick DHB as any other WR in the draft. Lombardi wasn’t a genius with his pick of the fastest WR on the table.
Please don’t hit me with the “we all” BS — the alleged “collective” has gone the way I told those guys it would — it faded into fandom infamy, because it was as toothless as it was clueless. A few people made a few $$ selling T-shirts, though, so I guess it was a worthy cause.
June 29th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Of all the games they play: Only the Steelers and Giants are games that they “probably” have no shot of winning. The rest of the games on the schedule should be competitive.
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I don’t know S&B. I agree with this statement about Pittsburg and the G-Men, but what about teams like Philly, Washington and Baltimore?
WAY too physical for us and will dominate from start to finish. Maybe even add San Diego to this category if Merriman & Tomlinson return to form (doubtful).
Jim Michalczik & Dwaine Board have two of the toughest jobs in the entire NFL …
June 29th, 2009 at 10:32 am
http://mandroppings.blogspot.com/2009/06/welp-its-official.html
June 29th, 2009 at 10:42 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 29th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Of all the games they play: Only the Steelers and Giants are games that they “probably” have no shot of winning. The rest of the games on the schedule should be competitive.
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I don’t know S&B. I agree with this statement about Pittsburg and the G-Men, but what about teams like Philly, Washington and Baltimore?
WAY too physical for us and will dominate from start to finish. Maybe even add San Diego to this category if Merriman & Tomlinson return to form (doubtful).
Jim Michalczik & Dwaine Board have two of the toughest jobs in the entire NFL …
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I was told by everyone in here that our defense is fine. Therefore no need to draft a Raji, Brace, Brinkley or DT at all. It was all about “fixing” the offense, hence the focus on skill position players.
Are we now not confident in the skills of Marshall, Board, Michalczik and Washington?
I am on board with all the folks who were against drafting defense. Marshall is good enough to get the defense into the top 20.
If its that good….then the Raiders should be a competitive team going into just about every game with the exception of the Giants and Steelers.
Also, the Eagles, Redskins and Chargers were all 8-8ish teams….they still have a lot to prove as well
June 29th, 2009 at 10:50 am
I think all 5 of those games are winnable. Pittsburgh and the Gmen especially.
What are you guys thinking?!?!?!
June 29th, 2009 at 10:56 am
We had one of the best running games in the league with Justin Fargas getting most of the carries. You can not have one of the top running games and not have a physical offensive line.
You guys are trippin’!
Our issues on the Oline had to do with staying onsides, holding, and pass protection, most of that being Kwame Harris. Other than that, no way we can say our Oline is not physical.
June 29th, 2009 at 11:02 am
As concerned as I am about JaMarcus’s improvement to legitimate NFL starter, I think he’s close — the only thing lacking is game-time experience, and the type of experience you gain only from seeing things while under the gun.
Muscles and brains react differently under pressure, and JaMarcus’s long throws won’t become accurate unless he’s throwing them under pressure. And, throwing against Nnamdi in practice isn’t quite the same as throwing against Champ in a game (even though Nnamdi is now better than Champ EVER was).
Even before playing a down, DHB is almost as valuable to the offense as any other guy. To make Schilens and JLH more than occasional threats, DHB/whomever takes Walker’s starting spot needs to be a dominant WR. DHB’s broken wheel is a HUGE anchor for this offense trying to spread the field, and not having that weapon commanding attention weakens the entire unit.
DHB’s hammy could very well be the difference between a good offense and a great offense. Yeah, I said it. It COULD be a great offense.
The differences between 5-11 and 9-7 team’s aren’t that big at this level — a few broken/bad plays at the wrong time, and next thing you know you’ve lost a handful of games you lead in the last few minutes of games.
Good breaks happen a lot to good teams. Funny how that works. When the Raiders were good, they got a lot of good breaks. That mythical “swagger” seems to breed exciting plays. Man, I hope DHB is the answer for the WR’s. If so, this offense is top-10, and exciting plays will light-up the highlight reels for years to come.
June 29th, 2009 at 11:05 am
As for our defense, the positions in question as far as physicalness goes is DE, S, and LB. Kalimba Edwards, Derrick Burgess, Morrison, and our group of safties last year were hardly what we would call physical. Nor was our DC one that would attack. Hopefully, those thinngs have been addressed.
June 29th, 2009 at 11:12 am
People in here saying we won’t even compete with certain teams are forgetting history. History that repeats itself over and over in the NFL — like when even 4-win teams can beat Super Bowl teams on any given Sunday. When’s the last time we beat Pittsburgh in a game again?
The Cards should’ve won the Super Bowl, and they just barely scraped their way into the Playoffs, from a bad division.
To say we can’t compete…without first comparing individual matchups, schemes, and this-year’s players and coaches (many of whom are different), just doesn’t make sense.
June 29th, 2009 at 11:16 am
JHill,
I believe, “no sarcasm here” that the Raiders should be competitive going into every game but two…Steelers and Giants. The Steelers on the road is going to be a tough out and the Giants O-Line and D-Line are downright scary.
That being said, if the defense is a top 20 defense…which I expect/demand…then there is no reason why this team can’t be an 8 win team. The offense has all the pieces and thensome. Veteran O-Line, good RBs, two good WRs (Schilens/JLH) and several options in the slot and a pro-bowl caliber TE…Russell has another year under his belt and a strong finish to build off of.
So I say they should be in every game. The offense should be a 17 to 24 per game and the defense should be a top 15 to 20 unit
June 29th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Look at the Falcons and Miami, and what they did last season. Do they have better teams than we do?! I don’t think so, and I think we will win 8 or 9 games this season.
June 29th, 2009 at 11:30 am
If the defense keeps the score under control, that will allow the offense to stay within its game plan.
I am expecting a top 20 defense this year and a top 15 passing attack….the running game should be a top 10…and should improve if Bush and DMAC get most of the carries
June 29th, 2009 at 11:33 am
If the Giants can’t replace the long-ball threat once provided by Plaxico Burress, the Giants offense could be just another average unit.
If Hines Ward and Troy Palamaulu fade in a hurry (when it happens, it happens fast…ask Terry McDaniel), the Steelers could be just another 8-8 team.
Baltimore? Old guys only hold-up so long, and the youngsters there might not be really ready to tote the load.
And so on.
If JaMarcus is ready, really ready to lead, we’re already vastly better. If his known weapons stay healthy, we’re even better. If his new toy DHB works out, this offense is on its way to great heights.
If the defense plays a more aggressive yet disciplined style (read: less predictable, not necessarily dangerous risk-taking), it will be immensely improved. If the D plays like it did most of last year, and the offense plays MUCH better on average…the Raiders could still be 8-8 without it being a stretch of the imagination.
If 8-8’s possible, then the sky’s the limit. I refuse to put a cap on the potential for this team to be good, until they prove they aren’t. It’s time for them to prove they ARE.
June 29th, 2009 at 11:35 am
SnB,
I expect a top 5 running game, and a top 20 passing. As for the Defense, I expect NOTHING. they have to show me what they can do 1st.
June 29th, 2009 at 11:36 am
word!
June 29th, 2009 at 11:38 am
RAIDERROCKSTAR said:
quote: ” I’ve never heard anybody say that Garcia “hangs his targets out to dry and sets them up to get laid out” like future Hall of Famer told Zach Miller about Russell. This isn’t good fellas. not at all.”
You are in for a MAJOR shock.
the one thing Garcia was notorius for was doing exactly that..horrible off target throws that got the receiver literally totalled. It was so bad with the Niners that T.O. AND Jerry Rice called him out on it. Neither wanted to go across the middle because Garcia rarely, if ever, led them. Most balls were high, or low and behind, both of which set up the receiver to take a vicious hit. Rice wanted nothing to do with Garcia, and T.O. ultimately stated “If he comes back as QB, I’m out of here.”
You obviously haven’t seen much of Garcia play.
There is a reason the Niners, the Lions, the Browns, the Eagles, and the Bucs let him go.
For every scrambling play that gets you a first down, he is equally as capable of making a horrible play that either gets someone creamed, or prevents the team from moving the chains.
June 29th, 2009 at 11:39 am
I believe we have a chance to win every game on the schedule. Only thing working against is is youth and inexperience. But on talent alone, offensively we have no holes.
I’ll say it again, as long as Cable doesn’t F this up, we should have an offense that puts up at least 24 pts a game, with several games in the 30’s. We need to see Bush running the ball out of the shotgun, 3 WR sets, and two TE formations. Not just the vanilla I formation. Have the receiving threats on the field ALL the time to keep the defense off balance. Once we get a lead, THEN bring in the I formation, You know, like the 3rd qtr?!?!?!
Cmon Cable!
June 29th, 2009 at 11:44 am
and remember how the Giants started the year they won the SB….0-4.
we showed we can put it together late in the season when the chips are in the middle so even a bad start dont mean too much in this league. we got time to put it together and get hot by mid october and we can do that imo.
so stay the fukk calm while this young squad developes in the next two years too….out.
June 29th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Relatively few people realize how hard it is for an NFL offense to average 24-pts a game. To go from 17-pts to 24-pts per game is an immense improvement. 24-pts a game is up there in elite territory.
If we did that last year, DeAngelo Hall would still be here, and we would’ve drafted defense in Round-1 this year.
We would’ve also been in the Playoffs.
Jhill — I don’t know if we “should” average those numbers you put up, but I sure hope you’re right!
June 29th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Im expecting 5 wins, hoping for 6…
Im expecting a Low-20s pass offense and a 10-15 run-offense…
Im expecting a low-20s Run-defense and a 10-15 pass-defense….
June 29th, 2009 at 11:51 am
You ended the season, Raider fans, with holes.
Seems those holes are turning into caverns.
You blew it on the draft with Bey. Now he not only can’t catch, he can’t run. How is that improving?
Russell still has the coaches stating “he needs to step it up”. that’s what? The 3rd time a HC stated that? First from Kiffin, now twice from Cable?
D line is horrible.
O line has been patched with other team rejects.
QB is regressing, not improving.
WR’s? lol…
RB? excuses on why he failed to live up to his billing last year…more predictions of glory..to be determined..again.
Let’s see…at this point you have Aso and lechler, and Miller.
After that..it’s nothing more than more talks of ‘potential’..unrealized.
June 29th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Raider O Says:
June 29th, 2009 at 11:35 am
SnB,
I expect a top 5 running game, and a top 20 passing. As for the Defense, I expect NOTHING. they have to show me what they can do 1st.
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Nope…offseason moves are largely finished and this is the team.
Think about it. Tom Cable knows its his backside that’s on the line. He felt comfortable enough with the defensive players and has said REPEATEDLY that the talent is there and its about the coaching.
I am skeptical about this…but I do like Tom Cable.
If Cable, and 90% of the posters on here think that the talent is there…I’ll go with the herd.
Top 20 defense with a sizeable improvement in the run defense with the talent that is on the roster right now.
That’s what everyone has been saying since the draft.
Now I agree
June 29th, 2009 at 11:58 am
If this team doesn’t start well, its own history doesn’t bode well for the rest of the year. Winning small battles (like the end of last year) only goes so far.
Start well or implode is the Raiders’ M.O. in recent years. Like the Giants proved, imploding when the chips are down is not what championship teams do.
If Tom Cable succeeds — and so far he seems to be pulling things together — it will be because his team stops imploding when things don’t go our way for awhile. That’s only going to happen if he’s really building a team, and not just babysitting a bunch of spoiled individuals.
June 29th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Raiders’ offseason: What we don’t know…..when we will get another post.
Raiders’ offseason: What we don’t know….how close to death is our fearless leader Al davis?
Raiders’ offseason: What we don’t know…..Where has MR been….maybe he got banned?
Raiders’ offseason: What we don’t know…..how many times a day does KoolKell soil his adult diapers?
June 29th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
jhill Says:
June 29th, 2009 at 11:39 am
I believe we have a chance to win every game on the schedule. Only thing working against is is youth and inexperience. But on talent alone, offensively we have no holes.
I’ll say it again, as long as Cable doesn’t F this up, we should have an offense that puts up at least 24 pts a game, with several games in the 30’s. We need to see Bush running the ball out of the shotgun, 3 WR sets, and two TE formations. Not just the vanilla I formation. Have the receiving threats on the field ALL the time to keep the defense off balance. Once we get a lead, THEN bring in the I formation, You know, like the 3rd qtr?!?!?!
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Yeah, there’s no point in having all the different types of talent if you are not going to change the looks to exploit that talent. running I formation right and I formation left and then throwing into a nickel or dime coverage.
Get creative and get aggressive. Not over the top “fake field goal” “going for it on 4th and 8 in the 1st QTR with a lead” aggressive….but aggressive from the standpoint of throwing the ball on 1st down…taking more deeper strikes…getting Bush and & DMAC on routes…be aggressive.
That lack of aggresiveness cost the Raiders in the Buffalo, Miami and K.C games….sans the fake fg to Janikowski for 15 yds stuff
June 29th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
I surmise that Jerry Mc has been named special envoy to the Shetland Islands.
And even there I’d guess that he will encounter a Raider fan or two.
June 29th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Ricochet bringing sense to the forum…and he’s not even a Raiders fan. Don’t like what you said Ricochet, but it’s not all garbage. (Mostly) well thought-out and well-expressed…something most “haters” don’t bring with them.
Potential is nothing more than potential. Right now, every team in the NFL has the potential to go 16-0. Just like they all have the chance at 0-16. Neither of those things ever happen, though. Do they?
The Raiders have as much “potential” as any other team — and on paper, some say more. I say, let’s wait and see how good or bad they are before we state unequivocally where they will be at year’s end.
Potential’s a great thing. Glad we got it all over the field.
June 29th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Hey all you Oakhole natives…
Reuters has ranked the top 10 bars in the world, and #6 is:
6. Heinolds’ First and Last Chance Bar; Oakland, California
The slanted floors and stopped clock in Jack London’s favorite haunt are a result of the devastating 1906 earthquake that virtually leveled nearby San Francisco. A 10-year-old London is said to have used the bar as a place to study, planting himself at tables still used by the bar today.
Any personal insights from the news-starved afternoon crew?
June 29th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
HayesDayz,
The Raiders open against Chargers, Chiefs, Broncos and Texans…they should beat the Chiefs and Broncos running away…if they lose to those two…then either the defense is still garbage or the offense has done a face plant…
The Raiders handled the Texans last year and shut out their elite receiver…granted the weather conditions will be perfect in a Dome this time around…the Chargers is going to be a tough one.
2-2 is the minimum acceptable…if they don’t get this then stop watching
3-1 is possible
4-0 and you finally admit to kicking the kool-aid habit
June 29th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Who played QB last season when we beat the Texans? Shaub or Rosenfelds?
June 29th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
New post!
June 29th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Made ya look…
June 29th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Where?
June 29th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Dakota,
Schaub
June 29th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
HayesDaze===True, potential is great to have.
Unfortunately, I’ve grown to hate the term.
When someone says that about my team, it tells me it’s a nice way of saying they suck. That they aren’t doing what they need to do. That a player, who’s not playing well…just might..possibly…maybe…play better.
A tag given almost every drafted player..usually followed with ‘needs to live up to his potential”
Yep, lol..hate the word.
June 29th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Matt Shaub
255 yards passing no TD 1 INT and 3 sacks
Is that what you wanted Dakota?
June 29th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
# Dakota Says:
June 29th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Who played QB last season when we beat the Texans? Shaub or Rosenfelds?
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http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80d84508/WK-16-JaMarcus-Russell-highlights
watch the last play here at 2:50 Dakota.
and anybody who says our QB doesnt show progress is craaaaazy. i love our PA…we are gonna be pretty much unstoppable here in a minute.
June 29th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Thanks guys.
June 29th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
SnB,
I still worry about the Oline and the Defense. I like the 1st half of our draft, I like DHB, MM, Matt S, and Murphy. The rest I’m not sure about. I also like the TE We drafted in the 7th. I forgot his name.
I also liked adding Garcia, Ellis, and Frye. I also like the new coaching staff ( but I really don’t know much about the coaches), but was that enough to improve this team to compete for the AFC west?
June 29th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Wow,
Yao Ming might be out all of next season and there is a chance that his career is finished. Too bad for Rockets’ fans…that sucks.
June 29th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
DHB and JLH can stretch the field, and Help keeps the Defense from having 8 & 9 men close to the LOS to help against the run.
June 29th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Raider O Says:
June 29th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
DHB and JLH can stretch the field, and Help keeps the Defense from having 8 & 9 men close to the LOS to help against the run.
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But they have to demonstrate the ability to catch the short ones too. JLH improved here. But if they think that DHB can just run 9-routes all day they are misguided. The corner will just play off and shut him down.
DHB will have to develop into a complete receiver with good hands, route running and everything. Just putting him out there as a “threat” won’t do jack
June 29th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
I think it was Shaub and the year before it was Rosenfelds who lit us up in Oakland.
# Dakota Says:
June 29th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Who played QB last season when we beat the Texans? Shaub or Rosenfelds?
June 29th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
All the Raider Receivers who were going to stretch the field……………………………………………………………………………………&