Al on Al
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, July 3rd, 2009 at 9:02 am in Oakland Raiders.
A transcript of a small portion of a two-hour interview aired on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area Thursday night with Al Davis, conducted by Raiders play-by-play announcer and “Chronicle Live” host Greg Papa:
Papa: Let me be one of the first to wish you Happy Birthday.
Davis: Well, it will be happy when we win. But it’s a milestone, obviously, 80, and usually at this time of the year, every fifth, from 75, 80, I’ve held a nice party in Las Vegas but I felt this year, predicated on the economy, that we would just whittle it down to a few friends for dinner, and hold off because we didn’t want to flaunt when everyone else is having trouble financially and I thought it was best to do it that way. But in any event, thank you very much.
Papa: My wife and I were thrilled to be at your 75th, and it was a tremendous function and you showed a lot of generosity to us and to those closest to you. Let’s start at the beginning, we’re going to tell the story of one of the most fascinating lives not only in the history of professional football but all of American sport, July 4, 1929, Brockton, Mass., the home of Rocky Mariciano, the great champion, and you, sir. How old were you when you moved from Brockton, to Brooklyn?
Davis: We came to Brooklyn, New York, when, when I was 5 years old, and my dad was a manufacturer. He was an entrepreneur, he manufactured raincoats, and he was in real estate, and he was moving the raincoat business, in those days, to the south, because of the course of labor, and things like that. Some of the factories stopped in Baltimore, some stopped in North Carolina. But, my mother felt that we ought to stop a little further north, so we chose Brooklyn, New York. The memories are great, I lived there until I was about 16. My dad had a home in Long Beach, Long Island, and we were moving from Brooklyn to Long Beach, to Brooklyn, to Long Beach, but by the time I was ready to go to college, which I was about 17 years old. I had already committed to move to Long Beach, and so I went on to college.
Papa: Tell me about Brooklyn in those days. You mentioned some of the names to me, the great Don McMahon, who later pitched in the major leagues, with the Atlanta Braves, was a childhood friend of yours, and the Torre family, I think you were closer to Frank than Joe, and some of the people, before you got to Erasmus Hall, even that you knew growing up in Brooklyn.
Davis: Well, let me make a point to you. Brooklyn was a very diverse place. We had all the ethnic groups that you could possibly think of. It was great street learning. And right next to my house, there was a park called Lincoln Terrace Park. And it was a tough park. It really was. Whoever played in that park, you had to be a survivor. I can only tell you the story, and I did the eulogy of Sugar Ray Robinson, when he died, in Los Angeles, and one of the other eulogists, one of the other persons who spoke, was Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson and Don King were there. And we talking. And I told Mike, who was about 20 years younger than I am, `Mike, I played in Lincoln Terrace Park, and I tell you what, it was tough.’ And he said, `What do you mean you played in Lincoln Terrace?’ And I said, `I used to play there, every day and night, unless I went to practice . . . ‘
Papa: Baseball, basketball, football?
Davis: Baseball, basketball and football, and I said, `I owned that park, Mike.’ And he turned to Don King and said, `This guy is an S-O-B, he’s a tough S-O-B.’ If he can come out alive out of that park, he must be a tough S-O-B. I remember it so vividly, my public school, my junior high school was called Winthrop Junior High School. We had to march when we were in school to our classes. We had to wear a white shirt and a red tie. And anyone who went to Winthrop will remember that. And then, we were being recruited to go to high schools, and I went to Erasmus Hall High School, with the idea of playing basketball. That was the dream, to play for Al Badain, at Erasmus Hall High School. And the memories are great, I made a lot of friends. Yes, as you mentioned, a guy, McMahon, wa son the baseball team, I wish he were alive today. We used to laugh like all heck. The Torre brothers were big, they played for Madison, and Joe, I think, played for Brooklyn Prep. And there are so many great ones who went to Erasmus. Let me start with Bob Tisch, who owned the Giants. Jerry Reinsdorf, who owned the White Sox and the Chicago Bulls. Sam Rutigliano, who coached the Cleveland Browns. Sid Luckman, the Hall of Fame quarterback for the Chicago Bears. Barbra Streisand, you have to fill Barbara in because she probably is the No. 1 celebrity from that school. And Lanie Kazan, we just had a litany of great performers, great people.
Papa: You mentioned you played for the great Al Badain, on the basketball team, and you played all the sports, but football, was the one, and you stated when you were 18, you felt you had a deep understanding of the game of football. Why do you feel that you saw football better than the other sports.
Davis: Well, I really don’t know that I saw it better. It interested me more. When I was 18, I was already in college. I went to college when I was 17 years old. At Erasmus, we ran a single wing. At Syracuse we ran a single wing and then Ben Schwartzwalder came and we ran a single wing, unbalanced line, and I just understand that there was more to it than running the football. There was a passing game. And I saw it, and I believed it, and a lot of people, I can remember Luke LaPorte, was one of our teammates, we were taking a class in football in the summer, and Luke came over to me after the class and looked at some passes that I had put up on the blackboard for coach Schwartzwalder’s assistant coaches, who were coaching the class to see, and he said, `Can you run that in high school?’ And I said, `High school? You can run this in pro football.’
Note: The rest of the interview is expected to be shown in the coming weeks. The first portion was aired in advance of Davis’ 80th birthday on the Fourth of July.
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July 3rd, 2009 at 9:06 am
Go Raiders!
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:08 am
Let’s Go Oakland! Anybody watch the Ghost to the Post last night on NFL network? Miller’s the new Casper.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:13 am
In all honesty, I thought Al was pushing 90, he’s only 80?
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:17 am
Yikes…we could have 25 more years of Al! Thanks god for the Lakers!
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:18 am
Happy Birthday Mr. Davis
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:23 am
I didn’t see it. Did Al just say he was 20 yrs older than Mike Tyson? Obviously, he meant Don King. I can tell just by reading it that Papa was trying to steer him in another direction after that mistake. Hehe…senile old coot.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:48 am
High school? You’re talking about high school?? High school??? I’m talkin’ bout pro football here! pffftt!
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:59 am
Did anyone notice Al’s eyes in that interview last night? They look all shiney and strange. Looked like he had been hanging out with Kawakami and his “smoke pot buddies”.
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:05 am
Dakota
Thoughts on the Artest/Ariza swap?
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:05 am
With Ariza gone it makes signing Odom that much more important.
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:13 am
What do you guy’s expect from an 80 year old man? bright eyes, extravagant speech and energetic demeanor.
He’s 80 for cryin’ out loud. I’ve never in my life witnessed such hatred for someone that people don’t even know. Because Koolkell and a few other haters blame him for their own empty lives. People want him dead. Because their team is not winning you want someone dead
You people are IMO what’s wrong with this world. We’re talking about sports and you want someone to die because YOU can’t find anything meaningful in your own life beyond a football team.
And you call Michael Jackson sick!!!
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:15 am
Al Davis, Mike Tyson and Don King that’s a threesome I would like to have been present for. AL… Hey Mike ever play safety before?
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:22 am
Some of the things I read in here literally turn my stomach.
Who’s REALLY sick??
Not that it matters, but I’ve lost a lot of respect for some of you and I’d bet that those people have no clue who I’m talking about which makes their illness even more evident.
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:26 am
priesttj
“I’ve lost a lot of respect for some of you”
You take this post too serious and you put to much credence into a bunch of online bloggers opinions.
I don’t want Al dead but certainly would never expect any one in here to show any morals.
Its words on a computer screen and if you let them affect you then you are probably emotionally weak and might want to seek therapy.
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:31 am
priesttj Says:
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:13 am
What do you guy’s expect from an 80 year old man? bright eyes, extravagant speech and energetic demeanor.
He’s 80 for cryin’ out loud. I’ve never in my life witnessed such hatred for someone that people don’t even know. Because Koolkell and a few other haters blame him for their own empty lives. People want him dead. Because their team is not winning you want someone dead
You people are IMO what’s wrong with this world. We’re talking about sports and you want someone to die because YOU can’t find anything meaningful in your own life beyond a football team.
And you call Michael Jackson sick!!!”
BHP
Take a deep breath, it’s going to be ok. I was curious as to what is wrong with his eyes. My grandparents are much older than Al yet their eyes aren’t all shiney and strange looking. In fact I know many elderly people that don’t have the shiney eye problem. I thought that maybe he has glaucoma and he needs to smoke marijuana to alleviate pressure in the eyes.
I’m not sure how my question equated to hatred for Al but you couldn’t be further from the truth. I have no time to hate in this life, especially someone that I don’t even know personally. Did I mention anything about Al dying? Have I ever? Nope, you are a little looney today I see.
You act like Al Davis is your mom for crying out loud. Sorry if I offended you, but try to settle down. Everything is going to be all right.
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:32 am
SNB666
http://www.consideritdan.com/home/mulesf09.php
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:34 am
Remember Al Bundy once scored 4 TD’s in a high school football game at Polk High!
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:48 am
RaiderDogg you got me so stoked on this show I am listening to Painted Silver Light right now!
I will be at that show!
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:51 am
SNB666
I will be at both shows and I will be doing the VIP treatment at the Saturday show. Mule’s new album By A Thread will be released on 7/28/09.
Did you get GA Floor tix? I am hoping Dell will be going as well…
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:58 am
SNB
Good old PSL. I love that first album. Did you know the song Left Coast Groovies is dedicated to Frank Zappa? Love that song. They do a killer cover of Zappa’s tune Pygmy Twylyght.
July 3rd, 2009 at 11:07 am
BHP
you ok?
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
That’s great, you made up all that stuff?!
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Mista
Who wished death on Al?
Also, what are your thoughts on Curry? Should the W’s keep him or move him to the Suns for Amare?
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Not you Dogg but as long as you been on this blog you should have noticed quite a few wish death on AL.
Im not going to speak for Priest but I think he was speaking to the masses not you directly.
Honestly I know nothing about Curry never seen him play but I like Nellie moving S Jackson to the 2 spot.
Im not aware of Amares contract status & thats carries alot of weight on NBA trades. Obviously he would be a nice .
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Mista,
I agree! Wishing death on someone for sports is ignorant. IMO
You would think he killed someone after you read some of the things people post.
Happy Bday Al, and happy 4th of July America.
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:16 pm
It’s ridiculous that the Warriors haven’t traded for Amare b/c they want Curry. Can’t blame this one on Mullin. Nelson is a clown! How many frickin guards can you have?
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:18 pm
TW,
Are you still here, or did you get banned?!
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Never banned.
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Someone doesn’t like Zappa.
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:20 pm
If Curry is a baller I might lean towards keeping him. Good point guards are hard to find and Amare has some miles on him..
Hard to say without seeing the kid play. Id rather trade Bellinelli and throw in CJ Watson or Azibuke.
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:22 pm
O, you’re a good man I dont care what Jerry says about you!
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Your backcourt should be Ellis and Jackson, without question. That means Curry comes off the bench while you have a huge hole in the low post. Trade for Amare, sign him to an extension, and your back in the playoffs.
Better than trying to get Boozer next year, b/c I doubt you be able to get Bosh over Chicago.
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Mistabrown Says:
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Not you Dogg but as long as you been on this blog you should have noticed quite a few wish death on AL.
Im not going to speak for Priest but I think he was speaking to the masses not you directly.
Honestly I know nothing about Curry never seen him play but I like Nellie moving S Jackson to the 2 spot.
Im not aware of Amares contract status & thats carries alot of weight on NBA trades. Obviously he would be a nice .”
Mista
From what I understand the Amare trade would be contingent on Amare signing a new deal/extension with the W’s. I think he is in his final year. The deal would also include Biedrins, who I would hate to see go, but he is no Amare. Also Amare has stated that he has no desire to play Center and or for the W’s for that matter.
The bottom line is why send a bunch of young talent to the Suns in exchange for one guy looking to get paid and possibly wouldn’t be happy? Even Amare has said the W’s would have to give up too much to get him, leaving him with a weak supporting cast around him. Now if they could figure out a deal that didn’t include Curry, I’d say DO IT NOW!
Curry was the best shooter in college last year, but he ain’t no JJ Redick. He can play 1 or 2 and he has maturity beyond his years. Also his dad is Dell Curry, a 12 year NBA vet, so Stephen has grown up in that situation.
As far as Al goes, you and others here should know by now that I am a pretty positive guy and I sure wouldn’t wish death on anyone. I was just tripping on his shiney eyes.
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Jhill do you start Biedrins or Amare ?
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
I’ll call it now Dakota Lakers go 75-7.
PriestJ I agree I have been po at big al but never would wish him ill.
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Mista,
Tell him to stop talking about people behind their back!! It’s a bad habit.
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Hell no I wouldnt throw in Biedrins & Curry for Amare. Especially if he dont want to come here. I like Biedrins & Turiaff. Brandon Wright & the other kid I cant think of his name right now are going to help out Biedrins tremendously.
Saying his eyes are shiny is ok with me its just an observation. You know Priest is womanly sensitive when it comes to AL & the S&B. Folks do frequently wish AL was pushin up daisies in here..
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:31 pm
I thought they wanted Biendris as part of the deal. If not, I start them both. Biendris at C, and Amare at PF.
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Happy Birthday Al! We know you are you hanging in until we have that next championship ring. GO RAIDERS!
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Mista
According to the CCTimes the Warriors are willing to give up center Andris Biedrins, forward Brandan Wright, guard Marco Belinelli and maybe even swingman Kelenna Azubuike but not Curry.
As far as shiney eyes go, watch the rest of that interview with Greg Papa and you will see what I am saying. I shouldn’t say his eyes, it’s the area around his eyes that look all shiney. Maybe he got eyelid surgery or something, but it looks strange.
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:39 pm
If you give Amare a contract extention, he will surely want to come there. You would rather have Biendris than Amare Warrior fans? Are you serious? WOW!
I loved Ariza, but Artest is cleary the better player, so C YA!
Monta Ellis is an All Star caliber player. S Jax is your best player and he should be playing the 2. Curry may be good, but you have to give up something to get something. You guys HAVE to understand that you need a legitimate threat in the post, and you have a chance to get an ALL STAR!
Don’t over think it guys. Take the best player you can get.
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Jhill
I would be ok with sending Biedrins in a deal, just not Curry. Also I like Jack at the 3 also. Curry 1, Ellis 2, Jackson 3.
Don’t get it twisted. I would LOVE to get Amare if he would be happy here.
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:07 pm
I wouldnt want to sign Aware. The Warriors problem last lear was defense and rebounds and Amare is absolutely horrible in both of those areas. I would rather have Andris. He rebounds and blocks. The Warriors have enough scorers.
The Warriors quitely have a very good team. They would have easily made the playoffs without Monta’s Moped incident. The future of this team is Anthony Randolph the guy was an absolute beast last year. Unfortunately he didnt play until the end of the season. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eIgWRcMRzw
Also I would like to keep Curry. Don Nelson says that he is the closest thing he has seen to Nash. Say what you want about Nellie, but he is an excellent judge of talent.
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Whatup smellas?
Looks like Portland landed the Turk, just moved them up about 2 spots! Not good for you Warrior fans.
Go Raiders!
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
There you go Cromartie, stick your head out just a little bit more…
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Antonio-Cromartie-is-one-confident-little-chatte;_ylt=AkkDDe6jkv_avec_rhNVhP5DubYF?urn=nfl,174345
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Priesttj Says:
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:13 am
What do you guy’s expect from an 80 year old man? bright eyes, extravagant speech and energetic demeanor.
He’s 80 for cryin’ out loud. I’ve never in my life witnessed such hatred for someone that people don’t even know. Because Koolkell and a few other haters blame him for their own empty lives.
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Priestj, you’re way out of line dude. WTF do you know about my life?
How many time do I have to say I don’t hate the man. I HATE THE FUKIN JOB HE’S DOING!!!!!!!!!!!
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Way to cut and past Cam’s collumn Jerry! Have one for me!
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
PFT reports the Raiders are trying to unload Turd Sands,
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
I saw that and I was happy I hope we have someone in mind to replace him however.
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
KoolKell,
so, wish Mr Al Davis a happy 80th and be done with it.
the man has earned the right to do whatever he wishes with HIS life’s passion, HIS beloved Silver and Black.
even if it means a faulty product, as we have seen over the past half dozen years (or as you like to point out, a 1/4 century without a ring.)
you and I and BHP (et alii) have been watching this thing for a half century. many fine days and memories. much rooting for the one and only Raiders. It is an actual way of life experience to feel that interest in a mere sporting team. (And that they are the coolest sports team on the planet is to our benefit.)
BHP was in error to include you in naming those who wish Al Davis’ demise. But he was not wrong to point out the sh!t-laden wishes of people who that to be the case.
Along the way in this life I have encountered elderly folks who had it made. ‘Nuff cash to do whatever they wished. I queried them as to why they would wish to continue to work at all. Why they didn’t simply buy a boat and have someone captain it through the South Seas forever. They all said the same thing. They still had a passion for what they had been doing and they continued to think that their input could make a difference. Wrong or right didn’t matter. It was their lives and passions. And their live’s work.
Again, Al Davis deserves to do whatever it is he wishes with the Raiders. Not you, not BHP, not I, not any of the haters, not any of the networks, not BSPN, not any of the other owners, not the NFL commissioner’s office, not any other person (except perhaps his wife) has earned the right to tell Al Davis what to do with his time, money, love and knowledge.
amen
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:20 pm
That’s the rub S&B666. Will we ad depth or go with 4 DT’s this year. Still one better than last year. He’s just making way too much to be a backup.
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:20 pm
$1 mil roster bonus due at midnight.
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Only 80, eh? Time sure has been cruel to that guy.
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Thanks Exla.
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
I hope everyone has a Happy 4th of July. Even with all the faults, this country is the best place to live. Take that LMN. lol
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Again, Al Davis deserves to do whatever it is he wishes with the Raiders. Not you, not BHP, not I, not any of the haters, not any of the networks, not BSPN, not any of the other owners, not the NFL commissioner’s office, not any other person (except perhaps his wife) has earned the right to tell Al Davis what to do with his time, money, love and knowledge.
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I strongly disagree, that’s just selfishness. And old people can get selfish as hell, because they know their time is up.
The Raiders are not just Al Davis! No more than the Cowboys are just Jerry Jones, or the Yankees are Steinbrenner. This is fukin Sports!
The Players, League, Fans, Investors, Season Ticket Holders, have no say? History, Careers, Legacy!. C’mon man. Listen UP: Al Davis is Not God. He needs to do what’s best for the team, just like all his employees.
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Wow. Its cool to hear people’s stories growing up. I can appreciate that. Amazing that so many famous people came out of that area. Cool stuff.
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Just heard the Raiders are shopping Sands
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
EXLA
Not to step on your toes. Man I should really learn to read…
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Raiders Shopping Terdell Sands
Posted by Mike Florio on July 3, 2009 5:43 PM
It’s Fourth of July weekend, and most NFL teams aren’t working.
The Raiders, however, have been tending to one last item of business.
Per a league source, the Raiders have been shopping defensive tackle Terdell Sands.
The problem? A $1 million roster bonus, the trigger date for which has been moved at least once during the offseason. (Most recently, the deadline was nudged on June 23, from June 24 to July 3.)
At last count, the roster bonus is due today, and that means that unless they have moved the due date again, they’ll owe him the full amount if he was still on the roster as of 4:00 p.m. EDT.
Sands, signed as a free agent in 2003, is (was) signed through 2010. He appeared in every game last season, with no starts. The prior year, he started eleven games.
Sands played for the Chiefs in 2003 and the Packers in 2001, where he entered the league as a seventh-round draft pick. He was out of football in 2002.
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
I guess the real question here is, are the liquor stores gonna be open tomorrow??
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
peace out smellas!
Go Raiders!
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:47 pm
In my mind…John Marshall obviously sees that Terdell Sands doesn’t put forth full effort at his position and he’d rather move him now while he can.
July 3rd, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Happy Bday Mr Davis! Happy 50th Raiders! Lets get to the playoffs this year!
July 3rd, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Link: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-top-ten/09000d5d807434d4/Top-Ten-Feuds-Raiders-vs-the-world
July 3rd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
I love how that story centers around the roster bonus. The real story is how stupid and futile any attempt to trade Sands is. He sucks. He’s overpaid. And, nobody wants him.
July 3rd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
In order to dump Turn they must have another NT on their Raidar. I wonder who? We cant go into this seadon with only TK, Warren and Boschetti.
Didnt Turd just lose a bunch of weight??
July 3rd, 2009 at 4:45 pm
I bet there’s a shyt load of hangers-on’s, enablers, bloodsuckers over at HQ telling Davis what he want’s to hear in the interests of simply staying on the gravy-train.
July 4th, 2009 at 3:40 am
Raider fan for 25 years and I never knew Al was born 30 minutes from where I live. I always thought he was born in brooklyn.
July 4th, 2009 at 7:51 am
KoolKell Says:
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Again, Al Davis deserves to do whatever it is he wishes with the Raiders. Not you, not BHP, not I, not any of the haters, not any of the networks, not BSPN, not any of the other owners, not the NFL commissioner’s office, not any other person (except perhaps his wife) has earned the right to tell Al Davis what to do with his time, money, love and knowledge.
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I strongly disagree, that’s just selfishness. And old people can get selfish as hell, because they know their time is up.
The Raiders are not just Al Davis! No more than the Cowboys are just Jerry Jones, or the Yankees are Steinbrenner. This is fukin Sports!
The Players, League, Fans, Investors, Season Ticket Holders, have no say? History, Careers, Legacy!. C’mon man. Listen UP: Al Davis is Not God. He needs to do what’s best for the team, just like all his employees.
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I don’t know what you whiners don’t understand about it being his effing team. Of course, nobody that rips him know what they’re talking about since you’re trying to tie him into Jerry Jones and George Steinbrenner when there are next to no similarities in how Al worked his way to become owner and how they did.
And for the gazilionth time, no, the players, fans, league, season ticket holders have no say, it’s a privately-owned company. And maybe nearly as important as the legality reasons, this is Al’s life, you have no justification to tell him what to do, you come into my house and tell me how to run it, there would be problems for you.
July 4th, 2009 at 7:52 am
I almost forgot…Happy Birthday Al Davis. Thanks for all the great memories.
July 4th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Yeah, Happy B Day Al!! Now freakn retire so this team has at last a fighting chance at being succesful again. Know when to say when old timer.
July 4th, 2009 at 8:58 am
I don’t usually post here, there are way too many teenagers and losers, but I have to tell the clueless that think Al’s 20 year older than MTyson comment was not a joke—–you are a joke. Close your mouth, turn off the ESPN, and find another team to root for. Al was joking, if you saw the interview you know, or should know.
July 4th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Like Al Davis makes blocks or something. when we do get better, and we will, soon, stay off the bandwagon and remember how you were hating on an old man, who should be on the Mt Rushmore of the NFL founders.
July 4th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Spare me with the whole ” Al doesnt play the games” schpeil. Yeah he may not play, but the guys he picks sure as hell do. All you clowns who still think Al is the man and the Raiders are the team of the decades are just flat out jokers. Basically it comes downt to a simple fact: You really dont care if the team wins or loses, as long as Al is in control and doing things his way. Winning is secondary. Period. End.
July 4th, 2009 at 10:09 am
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July 4th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Long time fans? Who have supported the team? Who buy tickets and merchandise? HUGE majority grudgingly admit, while they love what Al has done through the decades for the Raiders, and love the image he has built, also know it’s time for Al to let others take over the helm.
Newer, younger, “image” fans? The wannabee badasses who think putting on a silly pirate shirt means they get to pillage and plunder? Those from afar? Who rarely if EVER pay a single penny to watch a Raider game???
“LET AL DO WHATEVER HE WANTS. IT’S HIS TEAM.”
And you would be wrong!!.
Licken it to a corportation.
IF it was, and Al Davis has cost the share holders as Al has cost the season ticket buyers? He would have been outed two decades ago.
That’s a fact.
Another fact: Those ticket buyers are investing in the company. They are paying to see a product. It’s up to Al to make sure he puts the absolute best product he possibly can, on the field, to satisfy those “stock holders”.
Fact is Al has made mistake after mistake after mistake.
So, NO, it’s not his team to just do as he pleases, because he’s a stubborn, stubborn, ornery, obstinate, self-centered, all about me, and ONLY me, codger who refuses to listen to anyone. The fact the Raiders have one of the worst supporting fan bases in the NFL says the fans are speaking with their wallets.
Last 10 years NO TEAM has had more home games blacked out than the Raiders.
It’s because many fans still support the team, but refuse to pay for tickets until Al is gone.
Every single Raider web site echoes my above comments.
As a Niner fan, the best birthday present I can have is Al staying around for another decade.
Which will be Raider fans worst nightmare.
July 4th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Boy! the 49ers on the other hand have been sensational..
July 4th, 2009 at 10:26 am
77… As a whiner fan you should kiss the feet of Al Davis who brokered the deal that led to Eddie D getting the team his daddy bought for him. Also why would anybody who supports the Niners read every single Raider web site? You should spend your time figuring out who will be the starting QB in SF rather than bashing an 80 year old NFL legend and pioneer.
July 4th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Haters, just IMAgine we win one with Al. just imagine him raising the Lombardy with the right and the middle finger with the other hand. we would have ETERNAL bragging rights you mitches, no?
THATS what we are shooting for here. now in the words of the great MJ, BEAT IT ALREADY YOU PETER-KING-TYPE BANDWAGON-HATERS!!!!! WE GOT THING(S, yes THINGS cause the BOSS said TWO MORE if yall remember!!!!) TO DO AND PLACES TO GO!!!!
July 4th, 2009 at 11:09 am
priesttj Says:
July 4th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Boy! the 49ers on the other hand have been sensational..
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Ahhh..the abused and confused reply.
Stop with the silly reply of “well, how are the Niners doing” foolish boy.
Thread is about Al.
You confused about that?
Point is about Al screwing over the fans.
Why do I just know you don’t have a clue on what I’m talking about?
has ANY OWNER, IN ANY SPORT, screwed over the fans more than Al has?
To him you mean squat. Nothing. Hell, he even stated as much when he moved the Raiders to LA.
But you wouldn’t know about that, would you?
Yeah, lol..didn’t think so.
As far as the Niners? Haven’t been sensational, at all.
But we’re light years above the cavernous abyss known as the Raiders.
July 4th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Love him or hate him, you have to admire the man, not many people get to live life the way he has and still does.
I only wish when we reach his age that we can look back to our own lives and be able able to truly say “I did it my way”.
Here’s to you Al Davis on your 80th birthday:
“And now, the end is near; and so I face the final curtain, my friend, I’ll say it clear, I’ll state my case, of which I’m certain.
I’ve lived a life that’s full, I’ve traveled each and every highway; and more, much more than this, I did it my way.
Regrets, I’ve had a few; but then again, too few to mention.
I did what I had to do and saw it through without exemption.
I planned each charted course; each careful step along the byway, but more, much more than this, I did it my way.
Yes, there were times, I’m sure you knew, when I bit off more than I could chew……..but through it all, when there was doubt, I ate it up and spit it out, I faced it all and I stood tall; and did it my way.
I’ve loved, I’ve laughed and cried, I’ve had my fill; my share of losing, and now, as tears subside, I find it all so amusing.
To think I did all that; and may I say – not in a shy way, No, oh no not me, I did it my way.
For what is a man, what has he got? If not himself, then he has naught.
To say the things he truly feels; and not the words of one who kneels.
The record shows, I took the blows – and did it my way!.”
- Frank Sinatra, My way.
Congatulations Al, you have certainly have done it your way.
Now if you can find a way to get us a Super Bowl before you go…
July 4th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Lynn from Snot Says:
July 4th, 2009 at 10:26 am
77… As a whiner fan you should kiss the feet of Al Davis who brokered the deal that led to Eddie D getting the team his daddy bought for him. Also why would anybody who supports the Niners read every single Raider web site? You should spend your time figuring out who will be the starting QB in SF rather than bashing an 80 year old NFL legend and pioneer.
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Unlike the Raiders, I’ll let the coaches figure out who’s going to be starting qb in SF.
Raiders? That’s Al’s call.
Who can forget Norv benching Collins? Stating “Your turn Tui. Last 4 games are yours. Show us what you got.” Where Al promptly overruled him, to let Collins lose the next 4.
And you’re talking what happened back in the 70’s..you know..4 DECADES AGO. Back when Al had his faculties. Back before he became a national joke. Back when he still was respected.
Now, like it or not, SnottyLynn, as long as Al decides to make stupid decisions, he’s fair game.
Hey?? I know..for fun? Let’s talk about his PC regarding Lame Kiffin. ‘Can everyone see the overhead”??
LMAO..a stellar moment in the crash and burn of Al Davis.
RE: Reading every single Raider web site? What are you babbling about?
I simply informed you.
You decided to act confused.
Oh..wait..Raider fan…got it. *thumbsup*
July 4th, 2009 at 11:22 am
CantstandtheHaters Says:
July 4th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Haters, just IMAgine we win one with Al. just imagine him raising the Lombardy with the right and the middle finger with the other hand. we would have ETERNAL bragging rights you mitches, no?
THATS what we are shooting for here. now in the words of the great MJ, BEAT IT ALREADY YOU PETER-KING-TYPE BANDWAGON-HATERS!!!!! WE GOT THING(S, yes THINGS cause the BOSS said TWO MORE if yall remember!!!!) TO DO AND PLACES TO GO!!!!
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Just imagine? LMFAO..while we’re at it, I’ll “just imagine” it snowing in my kitchen, today.
Neither will happen…guaranteed.
Raiders are where careers go to die.
Where players show only when rediculous bucks are thrown at them. Even then they go through the motions.
Oh hell…why believe me?
Rich Gannon: “There is no more dysfunctional organization in sports, from top to bottom, than the Raiders”
Tim Brown: “Team is lacking leadership, from the top down.”
Jerry Rice, Sapp, Garner, on and on and on..all state the same.
Want the bad news? The REALLY bad news?
Al, when asked when he planned on retiring, replied “When the Raiders win TWO MORE SUPER BOWLS.”
Not one, but TWO.
Considering the Raiders haven’t won a Super Bowl in OVER A QUARTER OF A CENTURY..means Al will still, at 90 years old..at 95 years old…AT 100 YEARS OLD..be firing coaches, year after year, making stupid decisions, year after year, and Raider fans will be still stating “When Al raises that trophy”
And the rest of us will STILL be laughing.
July 4th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Happy Birthday Mr. Davis,
how many other ‘owners’ have been a head coach, League Commish, or even a multiple Super Bowl Champion?
Your love of this franchise has never been questioned, I hope we all get the same gift come new years, that i know you want today, a playoff team.
Cheers!
July 4th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Happy bday uncle Al! And happy 4th nation. free dirty.
July 4th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
umm, where is KFC and where is Tui now? i guess Al was right on that one you idiot lol.
and Gannon, he lost all coolpoints when the public found out they didnt even change Grudens plays in the SB. thats just stupid. i wonder what he said about SpyGate in his role as a commentator. dumbass prolly brownnosed Bellychick saying that it doesnt matter the other teams knowing all your signals.
STILL TEAM OF THE DECADES BITCHEZ. not playoffs but SBs chumps!
July 4th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
1976 Oakland Raiders at NFL network
July 4th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
A great quote from an old school Raiders fan posted in another blog:
“I love Al Davis for building a counter-culture sports franchise so people like myself would have someone to root for; for being a rebel in a game that glorifies conformity…”.
Amen.
July 4th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Happy Birthday Al … Although at times you seem to emulate characters in a Shakespearean tragedy, unlike most owners, you actually care … no REALLY CARE about your product … Long may you run ( Neil Young)…
July 4th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Just read on pft.com that Steve McNair has been murdered.
RIP Air McNair
July 4th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
wow. RIP Steve McNair.
July 4th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Happy B-Day AL! Go Raiders!
July 4th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
RIP Steve McNair
July 4th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
RaiderDogg
I heard it was murder suicide
Hell hath no furry…Like a woman scorned
July 4th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Happy Birthday Uncle Al, I hope you receive the wisdom you need to to let those more qualified to make the judgement calls in this 21st century world.
RIP Steve.
July 4th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Happy 80th. Birthday, Al.
July 4th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
RIP Mr. McNair, I enjoyed watching you play. I aslo appreciate your toughness and your desire to win. You were one of my fav players, and I could see all that by how you played.
RIP Air McMair.
July 4th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
WOW, how and why did this happen? RIP Mr. Steve McNair, you were a true warrior who came 18 inches short of a possible championship. As insignificant as that all seems right now. That final drive was indicative of the kind of competitor you were. Thanks for the memories.
July 4th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Well said BHP!
That’s what I was trying to say. I wish I could talk and express myself better, I try to read more, and I even took extra English classes at college. I think it has to do more with reading my own thoughts better, and then finding the right words.
Help me Nation.
July 4th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Raider O, you do a very fine job sir.
July 4th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
only in america…. fukk man, i liked steve mcnair a lot… may he RIP, goddammit it makes me more angry than shocked… and im quite shocked…
July 4th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
You are very kind sir, and classy as always.
Thank you.
July 4th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
im sure Al will make a statement about this, even if he never were a raider, he had raider qualities… and im sure Al love his character
July 4th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
LMN,
We all liked him, as BHP said: he was a Warrior. A true Warrior!!
I can’t believe it!!
July 4th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
people kill, not guns…. yada yada
July 4th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
BHP classy, well thats a reach…
July 4th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
LMM,
I can’t speak for others, but the man was always classy with me. How he treats others, is not really my business. You know!! lol
Happy 4th of July LMN.
July 4th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
WAS A TRUE PLEASURE TO WATCH MCNAIR. HE PLAY’D EVERY DOWN HARD, TRAGIC..
July 4th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
I almost forgot, Happy Birthday Mr. Davis!!
Thank you for eveything!
July 4th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
whatever….
I better go to bed, its almost 7 here…
July 4th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Good Night LMN.
July 4th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
SO LONG L M N.
July 5th, 2009 at 6:36 am
http://www.aikenstandard.com/LocalSports/0704Brinkley-bros
July 5th, 2009 at 8:40 am
GOOOO LAKERS!
What is the deal with McNair? I was drunk all day yesterday and didn’t pay much attention. Sounds like his woman on the side blew him away for some reason…bummer…probably a good thing for his wife though, POS husband dead and she gets the money.
July 5th, 2009 at 10:45 am
So McNair was dating this 20 year old chick from Dave and Busters (not as cool as if she was working at Hooters I know) He bought her a 2007 Escalade (I am guessing she swallowed) then she shot him and then shot herself. Very tragic for his wife BTW.
If someone bought me a 2007 Escalade the last thing I would do is shoot them.
Hell hath no fury…..
July 5th, 2009 at 11:47 am
666,
I hate to speculate (well, not really), but I wonder if things came to a head with McNair’s girl after she got a DUI and McNair was in the car with her…maybe McNair knew his wife was going to find out about the affair once the media got a hold of the story and then he tried to break it off with his girl and she emphatically disagreed?
Just my best guess.
July 5th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Dakota……good guess.
I have been flowing the story on profootballtalk and the Tennessean paper.
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090704/SPORTS01/90704013
First off let me say that Steve McNair was one of the physically toughest man to ever play QB.
When the girlfriend (Sahel Kazemi) got eh DUI and McNair bailed her out of jail then it becomes public. His wife would have read about it in the paper soon enough. Which leads to Dakotas theory: The mistress getting dumped over the relationship going public, getting angry and resorting to murder suicide. I think I am on board with you on this one Dakota.
Hell Hath no furry…..
July 5th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Have to agree with Dakota on this one. From what I have read, all the circumstances leading up to the shooting/suicide sure look like that could be a definite possibility, to how this all went down.
The sad part of this, is the fact that Mcnair’s widow and children are left to pick up the pieces.
The lesson learned here: Chasing after that young tail, seldom ends well. This time ending as bad and tragic, as it can get.
Prayers go out to the families.
July 5th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Air McNair. One of my all-time favorite football players of the modern era.
Now just another crime statistic.
And for all of you “Handguns don’t kill people, people kill people” advocates, imagine someone trying to kill Steve, one tough hombre, with a knife (even if he was asleep). Gee thanks Mr Colt for making all people equal and on their whims able to shoot whomever they wish.
July 5th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
M,
What is your plan for getting all of the criminals to hand in their guns so that we can know that only the good guys have the guns?
July 5th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Gotta run…I can’t wait to hear M’s plan…I’ll check back in tomorrow!
July 5th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Dakota,
it is too late for that now, the deeds are done, the way is sown. Best of luck with the new baby.
July 5th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
I was chitting my pants when we played the Titans in the AFC title game. I didn’t think the defense could hold on to the lead and Mc Nair was going to bring them back by his self. Got to say he played the game the way it was meant to be played.
July 5th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
So the girlfriend knew she was going to get dumped that night, and brought a strap?
Too many unanswered questions to come to that conclusion. McNair arriving at a love nest at 1:30 am doesn’t really indicate that he was dumping her, wouldn’t you say?
This is just awful though. Nothing good happens in the streets at night, man! It always seems to end bad, one way or the other.
July 5th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
One hell of a way to find out that her husband is having an affair.Prayer to both familys
July 5th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Memo to Richochet; you seem t think the owners of any sport have indivdual fans in mind when they make decisions. But if any owner ever took into account the fans he is Al Davis as well as some others that I can think of. There was no other reason to come back to Oakland other than what he experienced here with the crowd, which he stated on his return. Oakland had the least amount pof money or potential in terms revenue streams. He had LA all to himself. Not to mention that Baltimore was very interested as well as other communities. In truth Oakland was the least attractive. So why did he come back? Since money was definitely not 1st on the list it must of have had at least a little to do with the crowd.
But everyone knows Al Davis NEVER speaks the truth. Why do you think they came back?
July 5th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
In other words give me ONE owner who really cares about the fans? so how does that make Al Davis any different? At least they were somewhat of a factor in his decision to return to Oakland. There certainly wasn’t much else here over any other community.
July 5th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
I can read post all day long but as soon as start posting myself I get kicked off. What gives?
I just wrote extensive post on the SD game and it got wiped out.
July 5th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
r8rpaver shut the F U C K up you F U C K I N PHAG! I will knock your F U C K I N teeth out you F U C K! The only thing I will be F U C K I N is your B I T C H! You F U C K I N C U N T,I just read your post from Thursday night. You must be licking those old balls like the dirty B I T C H that you are I hope you choke and die as well as that F U C K I N SENILE OLD GOAT!
July 5th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
R8,
What did you say to 90210 to get him so mad??? I know you don’t like #s, but that not an excuse! lol
LMAO
July 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
The Raiders will win atleast 7 games this season. I know our record for the last 6 yrs, but The AFC west is Weak now!! We can win it.
OAK,
More KoolAide please!!!
This year is diff, I can feel it!
July 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
We will be in the top 5 In rushing, and in the top 15 in passing!!!
The defense will improve, due to the fact that it can’t get worse!
I will not miss you Robo Ryan. Out of all the Ryans, we got the ONE that cant coach a defense!!
July 5th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
We have talent, we always do. We need coaching! I like Cable as a motivator, but I need to see if he’s good with Xs and Os.
July 5th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
My Fav Raider Coaches were:
1- Madden
2- Flores
3- Gruden
July 5th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Good Night Nation.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:44 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Al is 80…RIP Steve McNair! This was some weekend, huh?
Coffee and breakfast this morning?
July 6th, 2009 at 6:03 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S ,HWNDR,YEH,HAPPY BIRTHDAY WEEKEND 2 AL DAVIS AND THE U.S.OF A. TRAGIC ABOUT MR. MCNAIR, A MAN STRUCK DOWN IN THE PRIME OF HIS LIFE…
July 6th, 2009 at 6:07 am
Yeah, Sad but true! What a way for his wife and children to find out…
July 6th, 2009 at 6:19 am
TE Chris O’Neill is being converted to MLB.
Cable said we will keep 9 LB’s (2 of them on the practice squad) and only 2 of the 6 TE’s …
WOW!
7 LB’s on the 53 man roster: Morrison, Howard, Brown, Alston, Ekejiuba, Condo, Norris
practice squad: OLB Nixon and MLB (Joseph or O’Neill)
2 TE’s: Miller & Stewart
practice squad: Myers, Strong
July 6th, 2009 at 6:23 am
Happy B-day Uncle AL
Happy B-day Andre “Mac DRE” Hicks
RIP: To a football GREAT!!!!!Steve “AIR” Mcnair.
Morning Nation!!!!!
Mario Henderson. 36 Pancakes..”not from IHOP” 3 Sacks 16 Starts in ‘09!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 6:27 am
GOOD DAY ROCKSTAR,SOUND’S LIKE A LOT OF LB’S & TE’S SOME MAYBE SPECIAL TEAMER’S AS WELL
July 6th, 2009 at 6:29 am
The Raiders will win atleast 7 games this season. I know our record for the last 6 yrs, but The AFC west is Weak now!! We can win it.
OAK,
More KoolAide please!!!
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9-7 Division CHAMPS Sweep Donks Split the SD & KC Games thats 4 wins
Back to back wins Philly & the Jets.
Then Cincy Wash & Cle!!!!!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LET IT FLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 6:30 am
good morning Dirt Lot, OAKlifer, Hwnrdr …
I like the new post! 2000 fewer replies
July 6th, 2009 at 6:32 am
OAKLIFER HAS GOT THE KOOL-AID PLUMBED STRAIGHT INTO HIS HOUSE FROM RAIDER HEADQUARTER’S,JUST TURN THE FAUCET, THERE U HAVE IT…WISH I HAD THOUGHT OF THAT
July 6th, 2009 at 6:33 am
Mario Henderson. 36 Pancakes..”not from IHOP”
9-7 Division CHAMPS
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LOL!
9-7? Russell needs at least 10 wins to be a Pro Bowl alternate on a run first team.
come on OAKlifer … add some more sugar to that Kool-Aid brother
July 6th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Any one know where I can see that Al interveiw…..wasnt home all weekend and cant seem to find a clip online!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 6:39 am
9-7? Russell needs at least 10 wins to be a Pro Bowl alternate on a run first team.
hmmmmm……Your right My prediction have seem to catch up with me……My other unkown prediction along with the 9 wins is that in our run first offense all screens and dumps will be considered runs….and that will factor in to Russell’s 76.9 Comp % along with his 27 TD 6 INT….
Pro Bowl alternate!!!!!!!!!!!
Probowl Jamarcus Alternate is…”in my best Jaba the hut voice”
July 6th, 2009 at 6:41 am
Coffee and breakfast this morning?
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yes. let’s holler at the waitress. Gabby!
Gabby: yes sir?
RR: get my good friends “the AM crew” some grand slams and keep the coffee topped off, would ya?
Gabby: right away sir
RR: thanks dollface
Gabby: by the way… my friend over there is Sahel Kazemi. wanna ride her? She doesn’t care that you’re 15 years older than her, married and have 4 kids!
RR: no thanks. just get my flippin’ COFFEE !!!
July 6th, 2009 at 6:45 am
149!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WOW Double R!!!!!!wow……..
Sour Dough no butter!!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 6:47 am
Coffee and Grand Slams all around…sounds good to me!
And you’re right, Rockstar: No thank you! Just the coffee and breakfast, please…
July 6th, 2009 at 6:48 am
LOL……….
this kool aid is sour or stale but kinda funny….remeber this was b4 he turned 80 YIKES!!!!!
“Still love ya boss”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tk3L5l-EyU
July 6th, 2009 at 6:49 am
in our run first offense all screens and dumps will be considered runs….and that will factor in to Russell’s 76.9 Comp % along with his 27 TD 6 INT….
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Darren McFadden will break out into a dual threat as RB/WR like Brian Westbrook
In 2007 Westbrook had over 1300 rushing yards, 90 catches for over 750 yards and 12 combined TD’s
He had over 1900 all purpose yards and 11 TD’s the year before that – 2006
Last year was a down year for him (injuries) and he still got over 1300 all purpose yards and 14 TD’s!
RR now serving Kool-Aid popsicles. OOOOHH YEEEAAHH
July 6th, 2009 at 6:51 am
raiders4life2010 ~say’s……….
(6 months ago) Show Hide +3 Marked as spam Reply yea he is, I hate the guys on ESPN, they call themselves experts and they dont know more then me n you! I listen to the former players like Tom Jackson, and cris Carter or on NFL Network Rod Woodson and Terrell Davis. They know what their talking about! they played the dam game, lol
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LMFAO!!!!!!!!LOL @ THIS KID!!!!!!!
I listen to the former players like Tom Jackson, and cris Carter or on NFL Network Rod Woodson and Terrell Davis. LOL…HAHAHAHA
Jackson is a homer punk Cris carter should be cut open for his recent comments…and sure TD tells it how it is but LOL another donk homer kid should change his Screen name!!!!LOL
July 6th, 2009 at 6:53 am
THANK’S 4 THE BREAKFAST ROCKSTAR,FUNNY HOW THE ANTI-GUN CROWD R USING THAT ANGLE AGAIN, AMAZING.
July 6th, 2009 at 7:00 am
I hope Jamarcus Russell becomes a lot more like Steve McNair (on the football field) and a lot less like Daunte Culpepper or Byron Leftwich …
McNair was indeed a warrior
Dirt Lot: why can’t people figure out that people kill people – not guns. I could just as easily kill somebody will a crossbow, tire iron or a baseball bat
are they going to make those items illegal? haha
July 6th, 2009 at 7:04 am
Mornin’ all.
Happy B-day Al and America.
RIP McNair.
RIP Turdell?
July 6th, 2009 at 7:05 am
Fortunately, guys like Warren Sapp, Keyshawn Johnson, Emmitt Smith, Trent Dilfer, Sean Salisbury & Mark Schlereth don’t speak for everybody … even if they were former players!
Tim Hasselbeck, Eric Allen, James Hasty, Marcellus Wiley, Mike Golic and Dan Marino are much more classy, informed and professional imo
July 6th, 2009 at 7:06 am
Happy 80th birthday to Al Davis! woohoo!
July 6th, 2009 at 7:08 am
Dirt Lot: why can’t people figure out that people kill people – not guns. I could just as easily kill somebody will a crossbow, tire iron or a baseball bat
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Just as easily? McNair’s ho could have tire-ironed him to death?
Yes, people kill people. But it should not be so easy, and our culture should not make it appear so trivial.
July 6th, 2009 at 7:21 am
I just think that its disturbing that anyone can have a gun these days and how some people get so emotionally attached that they feel the need to use it…these people are psychologically messed up that it is sad that they walk amongst us! You never know these days…choices are what makes or breaks us!
July 6th, 2009 at 7:22 am
“You cant do like me cash a bad check at the bank wit no ID”~ Mac Dre
DREDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL@ GUN control read your 10 admendments….I HAVE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS……
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RIP Turdell? LOL!!!!!!!!!1
July 6th, 2009 at 7:24 am
Bo,
She just would have ran him down with her Caddy or she would have put a little rat poison in his morning coffee.
I’m willing to bet that it was his own gun, or his buddy’s gun she used to kill him. Never tell your ho where you keep your gun!
July 6th, 2009 at 7:27 am
and use them if I want!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!My freezer is full at all times!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Never tell your ho where you keep your gun!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dakota, if I didnt already have a hero you’d be it!!!!!
Shout out to my Pops MY ALL TIME HERO!!!!!!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 7:31 am
MUTHAFU@@K Gabby I said NO BUTTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 7:33 am
good morning BSJ, Dakota …
breakfast is on me
July 6th, 2009 at 7:34 am
Gabby I said NO BUTTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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OAKlifer: shoot her. life is trivial!
July 6th, 2009 at 7:40 am
You never know these days…choices are what makes or breaks us!
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well said Hwnrdr. you should have to pass a mental eval or something
we already:
1. take hunter safety classes
2. get our conceal & carry license
3. register our firearm
sad thing is none of these crimes come from any of these people who abide by the law
criminals, gangsters and thugs don’t follow the guidelines and they give all of us honest law abiding citizens who have earned the right to bear arms a bad name and/or reputation. we get stereotyped as “anybody who owns or uses guns” what a load of cr@p
July 6th, 2009 at 7:47 am
Al Capone died when Al Davis was 17 or 18 years old.
It was then that AD decided to attend Wittenberg University and Syracuse University instead of joining Capone’s gang who were later charged with Murder, gun running, bootlegging, & tax evasion …
and then Oakland Raiders were born!
July 6th, 2009 at 7:48 am
criminals, gangsters and thugs don’t follow the guidelines and they give all of us honest law abiding citizens……
I cant be both?!?!?!?!?!?
July 6th, 2009 at 7:49 am
You just can’t leave your guns lying around the house where your ho might get to it…I mean your kids might get to it.
Lock boxes are pretty cheap, and they open quickly and quietly when necessary.
Safety first!
July 6th, 2009 at 7:51 am
LOL @ Dakota & OAKlifer …
a fire chest also works nicely
July 6th, 2009 at 7:51 am
When Artest Met Kobe … in a Shower
Posted Jul 06, 2009 9:20AM By Tom Ziller (RSS feed)
Before Ron Artest became Kobe Bryant’s deputy in Los Angeles — heck, even before Ron Artest became Yao Ming’s deputy in Houston! — the new teammates had a close, intimate encounter in the bowels of an arena. Via The Lakers Nation, John Ireland of L.A.’s CBS 2 News retells a story about the time Ron-Ron visited Kobe in the shower after an NBA Finals game.
Apparently, after the Lakers got blown out of the building in a championship-clinching Game 6 in Boston in 2008, Artest (then a King, watching from courtside as a fan) made his way into the visitor’s locker room. Kobe was alone in the shower when Artest burst in, promising Kobe he’d be a Laker soon, and he’d help him win another championship. Kobe didn’t call for security. He found it … endearing. (This is why the Mike Bibby-Artest partnership never worked. Bibby would have pulled out the pepper spray.)
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LMFAO…the Lakers just signed a crazy person…but it might work!
July 6th, 2009 at 7:53 am
So Dwayne Board has seen enough of Terdell Sands…Surprise…Surprise…
As much as I don’t like the D-Line for Oakland….after throwing away two golden opportunities in the draft…the Raiders might as well keep Mr. Sands this year. Better to go in with 4 below average DTs than 3 below average DTs.
Then again, maybe that kid from Harvard impressed folks….Who knows….All we do know is that this SAD, SORRY, PATHETIC and SOFT TO THE TOUCH, defense we’ve seen the last few years did not receive ANY personnel upgrades.
So it will be Terdell Sands (on the trade block LOL) or yet again another UNDRAFTED FREE AGENT for the defensive line.
Like I said before, the Raiders don’t value run defense
July 6th, 2009 at 7:54 am
Oh, and at middle linebacker we’ve got people thinking that some guy name Franz Joseph is going to unseat Kirk Morrison up the middle.
LOL…Morrison does what he’s told. Man the Back 7!
July 6th, 2009 at 7:54 am
Good morning folks
July 6th, 2009 at 7:56 am
S&B: did I miss something…?
Why is Sands in the doghouse? He dropped all kinds of weight this offseason. Has been present at the OTA’s and mandatory minicamp
July 6th, 2009 at 7:59 am
RaiderRockstar,
Here you go. Terdell Sands and our terrific run defense
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/03/raiders-shopping-terdell-sands/
July 6th, 2009 at 8:00 am
we’ve got people thinking that some guy name Franz Joseph is going to unseat Kirk Morrison up the middle
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you must be talking about that clown named Paul Wexler at the Raider Beat, right?
Morrison will be given every opportunity to be a beast in the middle of Marshall’s defense
July 6th, 2009 at 8:01 am
So Dwayne Board has seen enough of Terdell Sands…Surprise…Surprise
Where is all this insider info coming from ……any one seen bobert??????
July 6th, 2009 at 8:02 am
The coaching staff didn’t want to deal with Sands’ third straight year of mourning for the loss of his mother.
Board: Hey Sands, you need to play lower! How many times do I need to tell you that? Jezus!
Sands: Coach, I’m sorry, but I keep thinking about my mom, and it makes me weak! Give me another year or two and I will round back into shape! Ryan would have been more understanding about this!
Board: You useless piece of sheet, get off my field!
Sands: (Sniffle) mommy!
July 6th, 2009 at 8:03 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 8:00 am
we’ve got people thinking that some guy name Franz Joseph is going to unseat Kirk Morrison up the middle
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you must be talking about that clown named Paul Wexler at the Raider Beat, right?
Morrison will be given every opportunity to be a beast in the middle of Marshall’s defense
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I hope Morrison is given every opportunity. Let’s also hope that Marshall gets more than 2 combined sacks from our linebacking corps in 2009.
Hopefully Warren/Broschetti/the Harvard kid/ or Joseph can keep Morrison clean in Marshall’s new defense
July 6th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Marshalls new defense?? LOL!! I bet it will just be crazy different than Al Dav…errrr… Rob Ryans.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Raiders Shopping Terdell Sands
Posted by Mike Florio (PFT)
It’s Fourth of July weekend, and most NFL teams aren’t working.
The Raiders, however, have been tending to one last item of business.
Per a league source, the Raiders have been shopping defensive tackle Terdell Sands.
The problem? A $1 million roster bonus, the trigger date for which has been moved at least once during the offseason. (Most recently, the deadline was nudged on June 23, from June 24 to July 3.)
At last count, the roster bonus is due today, and that means that unless they have moved the due date again, they’ll owe him the full amount if he was still on the roster as of 4:00 p.m. EDT.
Sands, signed as a free agent in 2003, is (was) signed through 2010. He appeared in every game last season, with no starts. The prior year, he started eleven games.
Sands played for the Chiefs in 2003 and the Packers in 2001, where he entered the league as a seventh-round draft pick. He was out of football in 2002.
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for those who don’t have access to PFT at work (or are lazy!)
July 6th, 2009 at 8:05 am
There were so many wonderful statistics attached to McNair’s career, the most important being the one Super Bowl, the four Pro Bowls to which he was selected, all the games he won. But the last was the only one that mattered. He is the 36th homicide victim in Nashville this year. That is down from 41 at the same time last year.
Only in a country of gun lovers is that considered progress.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:06 am
Where is all this insider info coming from ……any one seen bobert??????
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LOL. I don’t think Bobby’s janitor boyfriend qualifies as a “league source” but you never know, this is the media we’re talking about!
July 6th, 2009 at 8:09 am
OAKlifer Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 8:01 am
So Dwayne Board has seen enough of Terdell Sands…Surprise…Surprise
Where is all this insider info coming from ……any one seen bobert??????
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Sorry OAKlifer, made an assumption based on information that the Raiders have Mr. Sands on the trade block.
You are right….we don’t know if anyone in Oakland really wants to move Sands along.
As if anyone would really want to generate “rumors” on a 2nd string DT on the worst run defense in the NFL.
I bet most people outside of Oakland ever heard of the guy. This is the most press he’s received since his run-in with Lechler
July 6th, 2009 at 8:10 am
According to an inside source, Sands, along with Justin Fargas, could be heading to Cincinnati for disgruntled WR Ocho Cinco.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:11 am
All joking aside. The Raiders might as well keep Terdell Sands on the roster now. Better to go with 4 DTs in rotation than 3.
Maybe the former Redskins practice squad player from UCLA (played when Cable was OC) is about to overtake Sands’ position.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:11 am
Hopefully Warren/Broschetti/the Harvard kid/ or Joseph can keep Morrison clean in Marshall’s new defense
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S&B: Gerard Warren, Ryan Boschetti, William Joseph & Desmond Bryant are depth guys – not impact players. This defense is counting on Tommy Kelly to be a dominant UT and Terdell Sands to be at least an adequate NT, good enough to start and hold his own (ie not be the weak link of the D-Line)
July 6th, 2009 at 8:15 am
Bo,
You don’t really believe that if guns are banned in the US that suddenly all the criminals will turn their guns in do you?
Lol
Hey Jim, did you hear that they banned guns?
Yes Jack, I heard that. I was planning an armed robbery tomorrow night, but I guess I’ll have to postpone that while I turn in my illegal handgun.
Wait Jim, if you were willing to commit a first degree felony like armed robbery, why not just keep the gun and do it anyhow?
Jack, I think you are onto something there! What I’ll do is wait a week because my potential victim might have a gun, and since he is a law abiding citizen, I am sure he will turn his gun in on time! Brilliant!
July 6th, 2009 at 8:15 am
Andrew Walter, Michael Huff, Derrick Burgess & Michael Bush are on the trade block too … right?
what about Justin Fargas & Javon Walker?
more than likely all of these players will make the Raiders 53 man roster, excluding Walter and including Sands.
I just can’t see AW beating out Gradkowski, Frye or BSJ’s hero Danny Southwick … especially when he skipped the QB school and OTA’s
July 6th, 2009 at 8:18 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 8:11 am
Hopefully Warren/Broschetti/the Harvard kid/ or Joseph can keep Morrison clean in Marshall’s new defense
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S&B: Gerard Warren, Ryan Boschetti, William Joseph & Desmond Bryant are depth guys – not impact players. This defense is counting on Tommy Kelly to be a dominant UT and Terdell Sands to be at least an adequate NT, good enough to start and hold his own (ie not be the weak link of the D-Line)
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Yeah, but Gerard Warren is a UT masquerading as the starting NT. Another Cable Guy…like your boy Hiram Eugene! LOL
as for Broschetti, I think he is becoming another “Cable Guy”
Joseph and Bryant are more UTs on the roster. Again, notice the emphasis on speed, quickness and pass rush.
Terdell Sands is on the trade block. Hopefully he makes it to camp
July 6th, 2009 at 8:18 am
if 3 guys broke into your house and beat you like your name was Javon Walker and raped your wife you’d be wishing you had a gun in the house (unless your name is Chuck Norris)
I live out in the country and it would take the cops at least 30 minutes to get to my place. we are our own law enforcement
July 6th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Did I say I want to ban guns? No.
I want to ban assault rifles, ban armor piercing bullets, heavily prosecute for possession of non-registered guns, heavily penalize gun owners who let kids/idiots get ahold of their guns, heavily prosecute for dischargin any guns, require in-depth classes for first-time owners, and enforce current laws.
And I also want to find a good way to stop glorifying violence in movies, TV, video games, etc. How? I have not a clue, but I am sick of the violent ads during shows normally OK for my 12-year old daughter. Watching HGTV, you should not all of a sudden see a bullet enter a guy’s forehead.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:23 am
As if anyone would really want to generate “rumors” on a 2nd string DT on the worst run defense in the NFL.
I bet most people outside of Oakland ever heard of the guy. This is the most press he’s received since his run-in with Lechler
LOL true, true!!!!
Anyone find it funny that trolls come in pairs…i.e duder. and Dmunoz….
Duder,
However another positive/meaingfull post
Dude Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Marshalls new defense?? LOL!! I bet it will just be crazy different than Al Dav…errrr… Rob Ryans.
lol sad but true!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 8:24 am
Rockstar,
Its starting to look like the run defense upgrade Cable and Davis had in mind, besides getting rid of Rob Ryan, was to sign Ryan Broschetti. A practice squad player on the Redskins who’s only credential is having played for UCLA when Cable was the O.C there.
Hopefully Mike Mitchell can get his shoulder pads in the box and help stop the run. Or D-HB can help the offense score 30
July 6th, 2009 at 8:24 am
Yeah, but Gerard Warren is a UT masquerading as the starting NT. Another Cable Guy…like your boy Hiram Eugene! LOL
as for Broschetti, I think he is becoming another “Cable Guy”
Joseph and Bryant are more UTs on the roster. Again, notice the emphasis on speed, quickness and pass rush.
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touche! haha. is there any other team in the league with no nose tackles or base defensive ends on it’s roster? it’s all about the 4 man pass rush!
hopefully Marshall/Board/Haluchek can do something system or scheme wise to prevent us from being vulnerable against the run with an undersized speed crew. no ferocios hitters outside of Mike Mitchell on this defense and he’s a safety! who is a rookie. who is hamstrung. yikes!
July 6th, 2009 at 8:26 am
OAKlifer,
I have consumed my fair share of Kool-Aid. My flavors are offensive orange and special teams strawberry.
I even like the Cornerback Cranberry…..
I just need several more scoops of sugar to try and down that Front 7 Fruitpuch!
July 6th, 2009 at 8:28 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 8:18 am
if 3 guys broke into your house and beat you like your name was Javon Walker and raped your wife you’d be wishing you had a gun in the house (unless your name is Chuck Norris)
I live out in the country and it would take the cops at least 30 minutes to get to my place. we are our own law enforcement
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You paranoiacs think gun control means no guns for home protection? Wont happen. Although stats show guns kept at home are FAR more likely to kill their owners than a criminal….
Gun control means that if you don’t responsibly behave with a gun, then you lose that right. Or go to jail, if your kid takes it and kills someone.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:29 am
OAKlifer,
better throw a shot of gin into that “Front 7 Fruit Punch”
July 6th, 2009 at 8:30 am
BSJ: watching HGTV makes most guys want to put a bullet in their own forehead!
July 6th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Trigger locks are also a very good idea.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:32 am
You don’t really believe that if guns are banned in the US that suddenly all the criminals will turn their guns in do you?
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You would have to be thick as a brick to think the US could ban guns even if they wanted to. Just the reverse is happening. Several states including Colo have passed a measure so that concealed weapons can be carried in bars. A few years ago Bush approved of guns in national parks which until now were the safest place in America. I’m one of the Lefties that doesn’t care if you buy as many guns as you want but guns in bars??? That really is not a good idea unless you’re looking to thin out the alocoholic population. Well, good luck with that & happy hunting.
I’ll be drinking at home.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Hey Bo, I agree with most of that! Are you running for the Senate anytime soon?
Violent movies and games…I don’t know…I grew up watching Friday the 13th, Freddy, Michael Meyers, Commando, Rambo, Die Hard, and playing violent vide games and I never killed anyone with a machete or knife or shot anyone.
Parents need to do a better job of teaching their children that movies are not reality IMO.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:33 am
BSJ: paranoid?
more like “better to be safe, than sorry”
sometimes guns are necessary. pick up a history book
July 6th, 2009 at 8:35 am
JHill,
Please contribute your thoughts to the note below when you get a chance.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Raiders Shopping Terdell Sands
Posted by Mike Florio (PFT)
It’s Fourth of July weekend, and most NFL teams aren’t working.
The Raiders, however, have been tending to one last item of business.
Per a league source, the Raiders have been shopping defensive tackle Terdell Sands.
The problem? A $1 million roster bonus, the trigger date for which has been moved at least once during the offseason. (Most recently, the deadline was nudged on June 23, from June 24 to July 3.)
At last count, the roster bonus is due today, and that means that unless they have moved the due date again, they’ll owe him the full amount if he was still on the roster as of 4:00 p.m. EDT.
Sands, signed as a free agent in 2003, is (was) signed through 2010. He appeared in every game last season, with no starts. The prior year, he started eleven games.
Sands played for the Chiefs in 2003 and the Packers in 2001, where he entered the league as a seventh-round draft pick. He was out of football in 2002.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:35 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 8:30 am
BSJ: watching HGTV makes most guys want to put a bullet in their own forehead!
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Point taken, but I have four TVs so no prob.
I just want to be able to let my daughter watch TV without seeing blood-splatter ads. Kids have a harder time understanding it is fake, especially because it looks less ketchupy these days thanks to CG.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Front 7 Fruit Punch has been the most digusting flavor for years. offensive orange is nasty too!
drinking Passion Fruit Passing Attack or Front 7 Fruit Punch is basically like drinking your own urine …
July 6th, 2009 at 8:38 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 8:33 am
BSJ: paranoid?
more like “better to be safe, than sorry”
sometimes guns are necessary. pick up a history book
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Paranoid is thinking that a ban on assault weapons, or any other reasonable measure, will lead to the gov’t. taking away the gun you responsibly keep at home.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:38 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 8:33 am
BSJ: paranoid?
more like “better to be safe, than sorry”
sometimes guns are necessary. pick up a history book
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Paranoid is thinking that a ban on assault weapons, or any other reasonable measure, will lead to the gov’t. taking away the gun you responsibly keep at home.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:39 am
BSJ: I have 3 TV’s and no kids yet
I understand that part of what you’re saying though and agreed with it
big difference between fantasy & reality!
July 6th, 2009 at 8:39 am
I just need several more scoops of sugar to try and down that Front 7 Fruitpuch!
OAKlifer,
better throw a shot of gin into that “Front 7 Fruit Punch”
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LOL yes gin is far more efecctive than surgar and I agree on all fronts of the kool aid break down…..WE NEED HELP!!!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 8:41 am
BSJ: Why keep a spare tire attached under the truck or in the trunk of a car? and why keep jumper cables or a jack?
are we all paranoid? or just well prepared?
July 6th, 2009 at 8:43 am
RaiderRockstar says
touche! haha. is there any other team in the league with no nose tackles or base defensive ends on it’s roster? it’s all about the 4 man pass rush!
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Well…no. There is no other team with all speed guys. Of course the Colts were the closest team following an ALL SPEED approach to defense.
But then again, they drafted Fili Miola AND Terrance Taylor.
Rockstar, for all this speed the Raiders linebacking corps COMBINED FOR TWO FREEKN SACKS ALL YEAR! The sack leader was Trevor Scott with 5. So what exactly did all this speed get the Raiders.
Marshall and Co. have their work cut out for them
July 6th, 2009 at 8:43 am
I think Running Back Raspberry and Tight End Tangerine are fantastic Kool-Aid flavors!
I’m still not sold on Quarterback Kiwi though …
July 6th, 2009 at 8:43 am
Sorry for the strange double post. And now I am done with non-Raider and non-Laker talk…
July 6th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Parents need to do a better job of teaching their children that movies are not reality IMO.
This IS THE FACTOR the difference was we watched those movies then went outside to play in the sunlight….these days TV’s are raising our youth and parents are taking less responibility…I mean come on Dakota right?? when we where kids we rolled around in the back of dads pickup and never back talked… these days parents freak out and feed thier kids all these “made up” drug$ to enhance thier behaviors and moods I say what ever happened to the LEATHER BELT!!!! Parents need to stand up teach ur Daughters not to date married men Teach your Son’s how to be a real man “wear black” Teach them the difference between right and wrong lock up ur guns or make ur kids go to hunter/gunsaftey and last but not least if they are misbehaving SWAT THIER ASS dnt feed them another hand full of riddlen and let the afternoon soaps rasie ur kids STAND THE FU@K UP PARENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
July 6th, 2009 at 8:48 am
wow…im done I think…..
July 6th, 2009 at 8:49 am
S&B: LB’s in a Rob Ryan defense won’t have high sack totals because they’re in coverage most of the time. Also, when you have a 31st ranked run defense most teams don’t feel pressured to throw all that often… especially with Nnamdi & CJ at corner
1. LB’s that don’t blitz
2. DE’s that get overpowered and don’t get many opportunities
We added Sulak, Shaughnessy & Ellis at DE this offseason to hopefully add more power to go along with the speed. Plus Trevor Scott bulked up
the LB’s will get more chances as the system/schemes change. they will have different assignments & responsibilities
July 6th, 2009 at 8:50 am
so Dmun,
Whatsa the haps wit the Spanish eighty-five????
wasnt it Jroc, Mcfad and Z. miller for eighty-five and that one uhhhhh chris perry..
July 6th, 2009 at 8:50 am
point well taken OAKlifer. and agreed with!
July 6th, 2009 at 8:52 am
“Self-defense
In an extensive series of studies of large, nationally representative samples of crime incidents, criminologist Gary Kleck found that crime victims who defend themselves with guns are less likely to be injured or lose property than victims who either did not resist, or resisted without guns. This was so even though the victims using guns typically faced more dangerous circumstances than other victims. The findings applied to both robberies and assaults.
Kleck has also shown, in his own national survey, and in other surveys with smaller sample sizes, that the numbers of defensive uses of guns by crime victims each year are probably substantially larger than the largest estimates of the number of crimes committed of offenders using guns. Thus, defensive gun use by victims is both effective and, relative to criminal uses, frequent.
The economist John Lott, in his book More Guns, Less Crime, states that laws which make it easier for law-abiding citizens to get a permit to carry a gun in public places, cause reductions in crime. Lott’s results suggest that allowing law-abiding citizens to carry concealed firearms deters crime because potential criminals do not know who may or may not be carrying a firearm. Lott’s data came from the FBI’s crime statistics from all 3,054 US counties.”
ALSO:
Despite having banned guns for 25 years, Washington DC has one of the highest murder rates in the nation.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Rockstar,
The Linebacker Lemonade goes down fast but doesn’t do a good job of quenching a thirst.
As for Passion Fruit Passing Attack…the reason that didn’t taste very good was that Cable kept using a very old brand of Running Back Raspberry. Also, Curry might work for Indian food, but makes a terrible substitute for sugar in kool-aid.
Hopefully, Cable can make better kool-aid this time around with all the practice he got last year
July 6th, 2009 at 8:56 am
Artest worries me Dakota…I’m haveing bad memories of the Karl Malone/Gary Payton experiment.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:58 am
The Linebacker Lemonade goes down fast but doesn’t do a good job of quenching a thirst.
As for Passion Fruit Passing Attack…the reason that didn’t taste very good was that Cable kept using a very old brand of Running Back Raspberry. Also, Curry might work for Indian food, but makes a terrible substitute for sugar in kool-aid.
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LOL. Very Nice!
July 6th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Curry might work for Indian food, but makes a terrible substitute for sugar in kool-aid.
GENIOUS lol
July 6th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Right on Oaklifer! A belt to the ass never killed anyone…and it made you think twice before smart mouthing back at your parents.
Parents these days want to be their kids’ best friends instead of parents! Parents have to discipline their children and they need to deprive their children of some things to teach them life lessons. Parent first, example second, friend…somewhere down the list.
I have a sister in law that thinks discipline means saying “no no!” to her children and then distracting them from what they were doing wrong, or bribing them to act appropriately! Needless to say, her kids are not the type of kids that people want her to bring with her when she visits. Spoiled rotten little devils that might end up killing someone for depriving them of their ipod down the road.
Makes me sick.
July 6th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Parents have plenty of time to become their childrens’ friends when their children become well adjusted adults…usually when they turn 25 or so, lol.
July 6th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Wow, this page refreshes so fast I almost got whiplash!
Interesting story on how we plan to stop the run (hint, using TEs on defense):
Al Davis’ new idea: move former Boise State tight end O’Neill to linebacker
The Raiders’ owner has asked the former Boise Statetight end to change positions.
BY CHADD CRIPE – ccripe@idahostatesman.com © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Chris O’Neill received a phone call from the Oakland Raiders the other day.
The next call, he was told, would be from owner Al Davis himself.
When O’Neill answered, he heard the voices of Davis and head coach Tom Cable explaining a wild idea.
They had decided to move O’Neill — an undrafted rookie who played at Boise State last season — to middle linebacker, a position he never has played.
“I’ll do whatever they tell me to do,” said O’Neill, who was a rush end at his California high school. “… I’m so excited to get in there and show what I can do. I’m going to have that little anxiety moving to a new position, but the coaches aren’t going to throw me out there without a life preserver.”
In fact, O’Neill considers the switch a positive for his chances of making the team. The Raiders told him they would keep nine (seven active, two practice squad) of the 11 linebackers now on the roster, but just two of the six (including O’Neill) tight ends.
“I feel when they’re making a switch like this they have to devote a lot of time and effort to the player,” O’Neill said. “If they just saw me as a camp body, they probably wouldn’t be making this type of switch, so I think they see something they like.”
O’Neill spent an extra week with the Raiders last month after offseason practices wrapped up to learn some of the defense.
Rookies report back July 20 and training camp opens July 29.
O’Neill was told that Davis came up with the idea of moving him to defense after watching him practice at tight end and on special teams. The change occurred at the end of the offseason practices, so he only got a taste of defense.
O’Neill (6-foot-3), who bulked up to 260 pounds, plans to slim down to 250. He’s spending part of his break studying a DVD and playbook to figure out the defense.
“I spent some extra one-on-one time with the coaches before I left,” he said. “One to two hours a day, I’m sitting down at my kitchen table with a remote, fast-forwarding and rewinding.”
July 6th, 2009 at 9:07 am
One more….
There is a warning on the back of the label of Passion Fruit Passing Attack. It reads:
“Attention Kool-Aid Makers: In order for the kids to really enjoy the full flavor of “Passion Fruit Passing Attack” its important to use genuine flavors. Do not mix or substitute STANFORD BRAND “Left Tackle Lime™
Only use genuing Kool-Aid flavors. Try our new flavor additive “Honeydew Henderson” Guaranteed to make your Passion Fruit Passing Attack taste real good for the kids.”
July 6th, 2009 at 9:11 am
unfortunately, kids usually only go to their parents when they want or need something. thats what this generation is producing, a bunch of me-first young adults that are takers and not givers. not caring or genuine. just out for what they can get, when they can get it
July 6th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Wow, this page refreshes so fast I almost got whiplash!
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LOL. me too!
July 6th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Some misc. news for the Mornin’ Crew,
School janitor makes citizen’s arrest after seeing man touch self
Inmate ends up with broken jaw after dissing Michael Jackson
Woman ticketed for calling 9-1-1 to report cows on the loose
‘T.J. Hooker’ to Get the Movie Treatment
Former Beatles, Stones manager Allen Klein dies.
July 6th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Everyone seen this cool plane?
http://blog.airasia.com/index.php/airasia-x-airbus-340-oakland-raiders-xce
July 6th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Is the Al Davis interview on JuTube yet?
July 6th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Sorry, meant YouTube. LOL.
July 6th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Only use genuing Kool-Aid flavors. Try our new flavor additive “Honeydew Henderson” Guaranteed to make your Passion Fruit Passing Attack taste real good for the kids.”
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what about Sour Apple Satele, Coconut Carlisle, Gooseberry Green, Pineapple Pears or Blackberry Barnes?
what does that do for the flavor?
is Guava Gallery strong enough to overcome the other flavors?
July 6th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Wow, this page refreshes so fast I almost got whiplash!
Interesting story on how we plan to stop the run (hint, using TEs on defense):
Al Davis’ new idea: move former Boise State tight end O’Neill to linebacker
The Raiders’ owner has asked the former Boise Statetight end to change positions.
BY CHADD CRIPE – ccripe@idahostatesman.com © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Chris O’Neill received a phone call from the Oakland Raiders the other day.
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So the answer to improving the DT position was to bring in a practice squad player from Washington and a Harvard free agent.
Then to fix the MLB position, we bring in another UFA from Florida Atlantic and are going to convert an UFA TE from Boise State.
Look, I am all for looking for diamonds in the rough. But sometimes it doesn’t hurt to use a draft pick once in a while for a player that plays the position you have a big need for and then draft such player.
Jasper Brinkley, B.J Raji, Ron Brace….oh….never mind
July 6th, 2009 at 9:22 am
And lets move Turdell to TE…
July 6th, 2009 at 9:23 am
TW,
Woman ticketed for calling 911 for cows on the loose?
That seems strange. I have actually called law enforcement (not 911, but I might have did I not have the Sheriff’s dept number memorized) when I saw cattle outside of their fence near a highway. They pose a major health risk when you hit them with your car!
The Sheriff then calls the ranch and the cattle are rounded up and no one dies in a car accident.
Somewhat related…I do laugh when people are surprised that they can get into trouble for calling 911 because their fast food order was not correct!
July 6th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Bo,
I am more concerned with Lamar Odom not being locked up yet than I am about Artest fitting in. If Lamar pulls an Ariza and signs with another team, like the Spurs or Cavs, because the Lakers offer wasn’t good enough, our days of chasing titles are over.
Imagine Walton and Powell getting Odom’s minutes next season! Fuk that!
July 6th, 2009 at 9:32 am
If the Lakers don;t get Odom back, they will pursue another PF option (I prefer Thomas). No way Powell or Mbenga will see more than 15 minutes per game.
July 6th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Yeah, Dakota, it wasn’t an emergency…YET…but I think it soon would have been. They ain’t armadillos! lol
July 6th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Bo, they would have to sign Odom’s replacement to a minimum salary as they are way over the salary cap and have used the MLE on Artest…no way we replace Odom’s production with a minimum guy! Jerry Buss better not be getting cheap on us again!
We won’t get past the Spurs, let alone defeat the Celtics or Cavs if we don’t have Odom back.
July 6th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Jasper Brinkley, B.J Raji, Ron Brace….oh….never mind
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who needs these guys when you can have Matt Shaughnessy, Stryker Sulak & Frantz Joseph?
come on S&B.
wake up and smell the fire burning on top of Al Davis’ 80 candle b-day cake!
July 6th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Morrison is as good as gone if he doesnt have a HUGE year.
July 6th, 2009 at 9:53 am
SnB,
My answer to that is he is still on the roster despite the “deadline” passing. Just someone trying to make some news during a dead week. My opinion hasn’t changed. I give the guy props for showing up in shape this year, and hope he contributes as a BACKUP DT. If we can trade him to upgrade the team, I’m all for that too.
July 6th, 2009 at 9:54 am
BSJ,
Good work on the plane pic hadnt seen it yet!!!! Thanks Brother
July 6th, 2009 at 9:56 am
BJ Raji and Ron Brace? Are u still on that SnB?
Because there is a rumor that the BACKUP DT is on the block, we should have used a 1st or 2nd rd pick on that position?
LOL!
Can we at least wait until we hear that one of the starters at that position in on the block?
July 6th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Frantz Joseph
July 6th, 2009 at 9:58 am
is my uncle
July 6th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Difference between Odom and Ariza situation is that the Lakers wanted Artest, plain and simple. They didn’t even offer Ariza a contract. They went straight after Artest, as they should have.
Odom will be back. No way Portland outbids us. The Lakers actaully want to sign him.
July 6th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Al’s favorite LB other than Sam “we Know who”
July 6th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Odom will be back. No way Portland outbids us. The Lakers actaully want to sign him.
LMAO @ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
two words for you LaMarcus Aldridge why would Portland even try to bid for this goon we are looking at a vet swingman or 2 spoat not another Starting PF/SF to back up our STUDS!!!! lol @THIS
July 6th, 2009 at 10:01 am
jhill Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 9:56 am
BJ Raji and Ron Brace? Are u still on that SnB?
Because there is a rumor that the BACKUP DT is on the block, we should have used a 1st or 2nd rd pick on that position?
LOL!
Can we at least wait until we hear that one of the starters at that position in on the block?
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LOL!!!! Noticed how you inconspicuously left of Jasper Brinkley’s name. Not to excited about having an UFA TE from Boise State and another UFA from Florida Atlantic as competition for Kirk Morrison?
LOL
July 6th, 2009 at 10:02 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 9:48 am
who needs these guys when you can have Matt Shaughnessy, Stryker Sulak & Frantz Joseph?
come on S&B.
wake up and smell the fire burning on top of Al Davis’ 80 candle b-day cake!
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LMAO
July 6th, 2009 at 10:04 am
jhill Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 9:53 am
SnB,
My answer to that is he is still on the roster despite the “deadline” passing. Just someone trying to make some news during a dead week. My opinion hasn’t changed. I give the guy props for showing up in shape this year, and hope he contributes as a BACKUP DT. If we can trade him to upgrade the team, I’m all for that too.
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Of all the guys to drive a rumor about is an overpaid backup DT from the worst run defense in the NFL? The Raiders are shopping him around.
Unfortunately, I don’t agree with it at this point. Might as well keep him around to complete a 4 DT rotation. Although Boschetti has ties to Cable going back to UCLA
July 6th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Oaklifer,
How does it feel that Turkeylugooly chose Toronto over Portland?
July 6th, 2009 at 10:09 am
I was just responding to the DT issue you asked me about SnB.
I wouldn’t have had a problem with Brinkley, or any other MLB. I don’t think those UDFA’s are Morrison’s competition, I think it is Ricky Brown who will unseat him.
July 6th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Well they beat the JRuss angles to death …
Anyone who knows Raider fans know that Terdell is the next biggest target. Look how many hits that story got, LOL!
It’s not that hard SnB. The “deadline” for his roster bonus has come and gone. Did they make some calls and see what they could get? Maybe they did. So what happened, couldn’t get the 2nd rd pick Al was asking for? If Board is unhappy with the guy, why didn’t they just cut him and save the $?
July 6th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Dakota Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Oaklifer,
How does it feel that Turkeylugooly chose Toronto over Portland?
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Loved every minute of it Two words for that Rudy Fernandaz…..We have a Great young team that I would hate to see a Hedo or Lamar “candyman” Odem come to disrupt our young players Chemistry and Playing time IMO Fernandaz > Hedo…….Remember Sac town Remember Orlando this guy dosnt win he just shoots…….Rudy was mad we courted him we already traded Sergio then Started Courting Hedo we Almost had the Spanish Armada All over again!!!!LOL I thin p-town needs a vet point gaurd or even a TY lawson type!!1 JUST SAY NO TO HUGE CONTRATS AND OL AZZ MEN!!!!!LOL
July 6th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Odom would start for Portland, Oak!
Stop trippin!
He is a SF, and a better player than Turkoglu.
July 6th, 2009 at 10:15 am
“when Healthy” the Blazers will be the team to beat!!!…..lol
July 6th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Nicolas Batum
Channing Frye
Travis Outlaw
Martell Webster
along with Rudy, Bayless, and some times Aldridge ALL play the “forward” postion and IMO Batum a rookie who earned a starting role and Outlaw coming off the bench we have one of the best combos in the leauge…you forget J-hill we went from 41-41 two a fourth seed in the playyoffs and would have beat Houston if we had taken that first game @ home and didnt hafe to play the refs babying YAOwers…imo we are good add some vet presence at the point and WATCH THE FU@K out LA here we come!!!! I know bro its a scary thing but WE BELIVE HERE IN THE “other” TOWN.
July 6th, 2009 at 10:25 am
These fish did not get away. LOL
Roy Letson tells the Detroit Free Press their heavy catch of walleye may have caused the boat to go under. Letson says the men had their limit, 20 walleye in their coolers.
After their 19′ boat capsized, the men clung to the hull for nearly a day before being rescued.
News 11 was there Friday night when the fishermen were brought into Bolles Harbor, just north of Luna Pier.
Letson tells the Free Press “Maybe we had too much weight on the front of the boat, we had our fish up there. We were all done, coming in. It was real fun, we were having a good time.”
The first wave hit, drenching the front of the boat. Then the second. And the third. The boat capsized — and took their radios and safety equipment underwater. He pulled himself onto the hull, what became the men’s floating island through Thursday night’s darkness.
July 6th, 2009 at 10:25 am
ohhh yeah almost forgot Drafted a couple “F”’s as well
Victor Claver
Jeff Pendergraph
Aquired Shavlik Randolph in a trade…..
I think we will be ok….
and last but not least lets not forget about Reaf LaFrentz….just a little joke…lol
July 6th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Follow up, they admitted tripling the limit each and the front was way overloaded. Emptied the tanks while waiting for rescue.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:31 am
LOL. If Al Davis smokes weed…I thought I couldn’t love the Raiders anymore than I already do.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:33 am
new post!
July 6th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
priesttj Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Memo to Richochet; you seem t think the owners of any sport have indivdual fans in mind when they make decisions. But if any owner ever took into account the fans he is Al Davis as well as some others that I can think of. There was no other reason to come back to Oakland other than what he experienced here with the crowd, which he stated on his return. Oakland had the least amount pof money or potential in terms revenue streams. He had LA all to himself. Not to mention that Baltimore was very interested as well as other communities. In truth Oakland was the least attractive. So why did he come back? Since money was definitely not 1st on the list it must of have had at least a little to do with the crowd.
But everyone knows Al Davis NEVER speaks the truth. Why do you think they came back?
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Al came back for ONE REASON..and one reason only.
LA Coliseum was a total bust. Horrible place. A cavern. Fans in the front row were still 30 yards from the sidelines. Sellouts were almost non-existent, even during the playoffs. Al came back because he was desperate, and looked the fool in LA. Irwandale wasn’t going to happen. Baltimore wssn’t interested in Al or the Raiders.
As far as screwing the fans?
No one comes close to Al.
Ex: After ‘02, when Alameda wanted to throw a parade for the Raiders? Al refused.
They then wanted to have a fan appreciation day. Al informed all of the players there were NOT allowed to attend. Hot Dog Jerry Rice went ballistic, as he loves the spotlight, yet Al refused.
Hell, look at how many of YOU RAIDER FANS that state “Al owns the team. He can screw over everyone if he wants”.
Because he does.
Owns the team.
And screws over the fans.
Ok..riddle me this..when Al decides to stupidly fire and hire coaches, before any program gets up to par, who suffers, besides the won/loss?
The fans.
Benching a Marcus Allen, while hurting the team, all because he didn’t kiss Al’s butt? Hurt the team AND the fans.
Holding back league tickets that were slated for the fans during the ‘02 SUPER BOWL? Royally screwed over the fans.
Al cares about Al, not you. Or any other Raider fan…Al.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Raider O Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
We will be in the top 5 In rushing, and in the top 15 in passing!!!
The defense will improve, due to the fact that it can’t get worse!
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You’re dreaming.
Raiders were dead LAST in passing last year.
Russell continues to have trouble hitting water from a boat. You still have squat at WR. Adding Bey, who’s knock is he can’t hold onto the ball, and now he can’t even run routes.
Not to mention your O line is questionable.
17th in rushing
31 in passing.
Just call em like I see em
July 7th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
priesttj Says:
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:13 am
“What do you guy’s expect from an 80 year old man?”
For him to retire.
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