Making up for lost time
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, July 6th, 2009 at 10:08 am in Oakland Raiders.
With another 23 days to go before the Raiders report to Napa, I’ll play a little catch up after some time off during a slow news period:
– What to make of JaMarcus Russell’s reported absence from the last OTA practice? Former Raiders exec Mike Lombardi had the story in an item in his Sunday column awhile back, reporting Russell was “AWOL” from the final practice.
Technically, you can’t be “absent without leave” for a voluntary practice, but it was a breach of etiquette if Russell was a no-show without first informing the team. Players miss OTAs all the time, almost always with the team knowing about it beforehand so they can properly plan the day’s practice.
(I don’t doubt Lombardi’s assertion Russell was absent. He knows enough people in the organization to get that information. Left a couple of messages with players I trust which have not been returned, which isn’ t unusual for July when many are taking time off before gearing up for camp).
If the Raiders were informed of Russell’s absence, it’s not a big deal. He simply joins a list which includes Jeff Garcia, Nnamdi Asomugha, Derrick Burgess, Chris Johnson, Tommy Kelly, Terdell Sands and others.
Maybe he was busy planning his secret camp with the wide receivers, which is what Russell told reporters on the last day of media availability.
We’ll have a better idea in a month where Russell’s head is truly at if he seizes a leadership role and looks capable of building on his final six games of the 2008 season. If he looks sharp in Napa, all the “work ethic” issues recede into the background. If he is rusty and looks to be starting over, they take on significance.
– If the 49ers had managed to find a Malaysian airline for a new sponsorship agreement, maybe they wouldn’ t have had to give some employees unpaid furloughs.
Both local franchises could use better facilities, but notice that all Al Davis did was scale back his 80th birthday party to cut costs.
“Every fifth year, I’ve held a nice party in Las Vegas, but I felt this year, predicated on the economy, that we would just whittle it down to a few friends for dinner and hold off because we didn’t want to flaunt it when everyone else is having trouble financially,” Davis told Greg Papa.
For an NFL franchise to cry poor is reprehensible. The money the 49ers save in furloughs is couch change compared to the signing bonus they’ll be paying Michael Crabtree. The league is still essentially printing money, just not at the previous rate.
– Rookie linebacker Slade Norris won the “Ultimate Challenge” at the NFL Rookie Symposium, correctly answering more questions than any other rookie. Player are quizzed not only on trivia, but regarding presentations they’ve seen regarding behavior and lifestyle. It’s a game show format with electronic keypads.
Center Chris Morris won in his rookie year and got a leased Hummer for two years. The economy is hitting the symposium, because all Norris got was a flatscreen TV. Gets to keep it, though.
– So the Raiders rank No. 116 out of 122 according to ESPN’s ranking of professional franchises. I can hear the cries of “Haters” already, but that’s what you get for 24-72. Who can deny that Raiders fans are getting less for their money than most any team in professional sports over the last six years?
Start 3-0 or even 2-1, and it’s nothing but an amusing footnote.
– How involved is Davis in the routine, day-to-day operations?
So involved that he joined Tom Cable on the phone to tell an undrafted rookie free agent that it would be in his best interest to switch positions.
Chris O’Neill told the Idaho Statesman he had been moved from tight end to linebacker, and was informed in a phone conversation with Tom Cable and Davis.
O’Neill flashed during the Raiders mandatory minicamp as well as OTAs as a receiving tight end, but would seem unlikely to stick with Zach Miller filling that role and the second and possibly third spots going to block-first tight ends.
– O’Neill said he was told the Raiders would keep seven linebackers on the 53-man roster (plus two on the practice squad) and just two tight ends.
They could always change their mind, of course, and go with fewer than seven, but the leaders going into camp to fill those spots would be starters Kirk Morrison, Thomas Howard and Jon Alston, in addition to Isaiah Ekejiuba and Ricky Brown, who both were brought back a hefty salaries. That leaves Sam Williams, Norris and undrafted FAs David Nixon and Frantz Joseph competing for the final two spots.
Nixon and Joseph would be practice squad candidates, along with O’Neill. It’s unlikely that Norris, if cut, would go unclaimed on the waiver wire by virtue of his status as a fourth-round draft pick.
– Back in 2003, when Steve McNair was being booked for DUI, police found a 9 mm handgun under the seat of his car.
(Charges were later dismissed by a judge who ruled police didn’t have sufficient reason to pull over McNair).
While I understand the rationale of celebrities wanting to carry protection, when was the last time you read about a star athlete fending off an attacker with his firearm? I don’t know who owned the gun that killed McNair, but the whole culture of athletes and firearms makes for almost exclusively sad endings.
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July 6th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Goooo Raiders!
July 6th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Goooo Lakers!
July 6th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Goooo Cubs!
July 6th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Jerry, you really let us down with that 2000+ comment blog…just hook us up with a fresh blog that states you are on vacation or something to keep us going. After 1200 comments or so the comment section starts freezing up.
July 6th, 2009 at 10:30 am
I see the braintrust were at it, in the previous thread…. Dollar and Dakota really showed how smart they are =)
July 6th, 2009 at 10:30 am
REPOST FOR J_HILL
Nicolas Batum
Channing Frye
Travis Outlaw
Martell Webster
along with Rudy, Bayless, and some times Aldridge ALL play the “forward” postion and IMO Batum a rookie who earned a starting role and Outlaw coming off the bench we have one of the best combos in the leauge…you forget J-hill we went from 41-41 two a fourth seed in the playyoffs and would have beat Houston if we had taken that first game @ home and didnt hafe to play the refs babying YAOwers…imo we are good add some vet presence at the point and WATCH THE FU@K out LA here we come!!!! I know bro its a scary thing but WE BELIVE HERE IN THE “other” TOWN.
July 6th, 2009 at 10:31 am
J-hill 2.0
ohhh yeah almost forgot Drafted a couple “F”’s as well
Victor Claver
Jeff Pendergraph
Aquired Shavlik Randolph in a trade…..
I think we will be ok….
and last but not least lets not forget about Reaf LaFrentz….just a little joke…lol
July 6th, 2009 at 10:32 am
We’ll be right here waiting on you Oak, LOL!
And I think Channing Frye is gone is FA.
I can’t wait to see our 4th QTR lineup of ..
G – Kobe
G – Artest
F – Odom
F – Gasol
C – Bynum
Kobe is going to change his game this year and league the league in assists.
July 6th, 2009 at 10:41 am
DFish
Kobe
Artest
Gasol
Bynum
Odom
Shannon Brown
Fluke
Farmar
Sasha
Powell
DJ Mbenga
Sun
I think we are going to see Farmar and Fluke traded. Shannon Brown is clearly behind Fisher now, and I just don’t see Fluke getting on the floor with the Artest addition. Can’t have his salary just sitting on the bench.
July 6th, 2009 at 10:42 am
We’ll be right here waiting on you Oak, LOL!
And I think Channing Frye is gone is FA.
Frye may be on the way out hasnt signed anywhere that I know of…”could be wrong”
I can’t wait to see our 4th QTR lineup of ..
G. Brandon Roy- two year pro 2 allstar games…
G. Rudy Fernandaz- been a pro ever since he was 12 WON at the big stage.
F. Travis outlaw-Should have been the 6th man of the year.
F. Lamarcus Aldrige-Number were better or comparable for PF but his name isnt Tim Duncan so he didnt make the Allstar Squad…SNUBBED
C. “if Healthy”- Kinda says it all if this guy is on the floor the fourth quater will be tough for any body if he cant do it we have the “the thilla in Pryzbila” who may be one of the most underrated bigs in the game…Well be ther J we on the way!!!!
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July 6th, 2009 at 10:43 am
GO MARK GRACE…errr RYAN SANDBERG……
July 6th, 2009 at 10:44 am
I’d LOVE to see us make a move for Mike Miller.
Sasha and Walton to Washington for Miller.
July 6th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Artest on Roy
Kobe on Fernandez
Odom on Outlaw
Gasol on Aldrige
Bynum on your C
Lakers by 15!
July 6th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Lakers by 15!
not counting dougnuts eatin by Odem in the pregame!!!!
thought we was talkin Basketball scores…lol
Either way J-hill we both know its the Lakeshow and P-town for sometime to come in the west and while I addmitt we are not on Kobe’s level just yet we are nipping at his heels. I am less blinded by the kool-aid when it comes to bball…LOL
July 6th, 2009 at 10:49 am
My 3 Cents…
1. JaFatass is a complete loser. WTF will it take for this moron to get his head straight?
2. Dodgers – Can someone explain to me how a team with the BEST RECORD IN MLB BASEBALL, and leading almost EVERY STAT, doesn’t have one single player starting in the All-Star game? The MLB All-Star game is an F’n joke, just like the Pro-Bowl.
3. Regarding Jerry’s last comment about athletes and guns. People kill people Jerry, guns don’t kill people. The “culture” of firearms and athletes you are referring to is composed of a bunch of irresponsible firearm owners that are idiots. Jack azz’s like them ruin it for the rest of us that are responsible firearm owners.
July 6th, 2009 at 10:50 am
16th and damn proud!
July 6th, 2009 at 10:53 am
The MLB All-Star game is an F’n joke, just like the Pro-Bowl.
LOL nither are as bad as the NBA remember when Magic was getting voted in two years after he retired LOL @ THAT…thats the real joke
July 6th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Mike Miller a fellow South Dakota a Lakers? Fukin’ A! Too bad even Washington isn’t dumb enough to do that trade.
July 6th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Who didnt get in that should have or vice versa that makes the AS game a joke?
Count Dominic Rhodes as another outgoing Raider who thinks the organization is shady. He was on the “Herd” today and he wasnt very positive about his Raider days.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:00 am
3. Regarding Jerry’s last comment about athletes and guns. People kill people Jerry, guns don’t kill people. The “culture” of firearms and athletes you are referring to is composed of a bunch of irresponsible firearm owners that are idiots. Jack azz’s like them ruin it for the rest of us that are responsible firearm owners.
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Think you missed the point Einstien..”no pun intended”
when was the last time you read about a star athlete fending off an attacker with his firearm? NEVER Its just a tough sitiuation to be in..
July 6th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Hey LMN…ever get the fecal matter cleaned out of your government issued apartment? Or are you waiting for government help?
July 6th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Dominic Rhodes
He would eat waaay more doughnuts then Odem who cares about his sorry sad sac thats like sapp runnin his mouth holds no barring.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Yep, just because EVERY guy who leaves town gives the experience bad reviews dznt mean anything, riiiight?? LOL! HATERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 11:06 am
1. JaFatass is a complete loser. WTF will it take for this moron to get his head straight?
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hmmm intresting thoughts well spoken and thought out this was a great post! lol….”leather strap” comes to mind with this post!!!!!LOL
JRUSS IS THE FUTURE….
If we think we know 1/4 of whats going on behind those doors we are wrong!!!! Our Leader Franchise QB First Overall selection and pure BEAST has improved every time he has stepped on the field somthin haters tend to be blinded by you know RELEVANT stuff that matters like winning games making the throws leading a team you know the small things!!! LOL @ THE HATERS come get a nice tall glass of Koo-aid!!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Yeah, Russell has won a ton of games. He dznt have what it takes to be a good NFL qb and time will prove us “haters” correct.
Who did or didnt make the AS game that should have??
July 6th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Reports are now claiming that the chick that killed McNair bought the gun herself…at least McNair wasn’t killed by his own gun! Never mess with Iran1an chicks.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Dakota…
how is your economy? I believe i could buy your farm and your city for 100 kroner
July 6th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Is this the Laker’s blog? I was hoping to find Raiders’ fans here. No such luck, I guess.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Dakota you and I had this pegged yesterday before the information even came out.
Like I said yesterday Hell hath no furry…..
July 6th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Mostly just “Al Davis fans” round here.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:25 am
LMN, our economy is still 10 times greater than yours ever will be. It must stink to be so irrelevant in the world…Denmark is the KC Royals of the United Nations.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Iam a DUDER FAN!!!!!!!!!!!1
July 6th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Poor OAKlifer, hes so used to coming on here and spewing absolute BS that when someone calls him out he runs like a Frenchman. Gotta love it.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:36 am
LMAO at Denmark being the KC Royals of the UN.
That is so damn funny!
July 6th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Dakota…
LOL, yeah its greater, no doubt about it, but if you divide it with 300million and take our and divide it with 5.5, we have helluva alot more…. it must be great being used all the time and dont get anything for it… all you do is making some smuck richer and richer while you get poorer…
btw, i have 3 apartments, everytime i upgrade i lent out the old one…. i have my eyes on an appartment in a building from 1883, its lovely…cant wait =)
July 6th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Crazy Al at it again.
McNair gets shot, but a piece of garbage like Favre lives forever. No, Virginia. There is no god.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Funny how all internet big shots talk about how rich they are or how they have a hot rod car or their johnson is so huge yada yada yada.
By The Way ladies, I am a rich software genius like Bill Gates but with the looks of Brad Pitt. I own a Porsche and a condo in the city, its lovely….lets make out!
July 6th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Hey, don’t hate on LMN just because your V1agra doesn’t work without a gun under the pillow. My god-given unit is large enough that I don’t need guns to feel secure. But if it wasn’t, I too would worry about the gov’t taking away my spine… I mean guns.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:55 am
LMN,
A 200 sq foot room doesn’t really count as an apartment…we call those walk-in-closets in the USA. I am glad to hear that you have three of them though…maybe if you put them all together, you will have one decent living room.
July 6th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
I have devised a variation of the “Wildcat” that has McFadden and Russell in a two back set.
The ball is snapped directly to McFadden, Russell acts as pulling guard on sweeps or an additional lineman on pass plays.
I call it the “Fat Cat”.
Haven’t heard back from Al yet.
July 6th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Poor OAKlifer, hes so used to coming on here and spewing absolute BS that when someone calls him out he runs like a Frenchman. Gotta love it.
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LOL im here all day untill 2pm with a hour lunch break….. “some of us have lifes” if you wanna call me out lets go I’ll test your Knowledge on anything including my ex you ur mom….
OPEN FOR GAME!!!!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
LOL @ “Fat Cat”
For fourth and inches, you could use Bush in the same lineup = “Sneaky Puss”
July 6th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Duder,
Calling me dad on this blog will only make you look bad….or worse I mean.
Hey bro, or son shall i say I understand that all Cowboy/sandyeggo fans need a place they can come run there mouth I just dnt under stan Ithopught Jerry Jones and AD were homies Mr. Jones would be mad if he saw you doing this!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Duder dnt make me post every min and half to show you THESE COLORS DNT RUN!!!!!!!! SILVER AND BLACK FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
dmun, Duder, MR , crow what ever your callin ur self these days/mins its pianfully obvious that there are no trolls and then all of a sudden we have like three…hmmmmm close down some of those tabs, blog under one name and take you whippin from ur PA boy!!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
WTF people, is there not a laker board to hold that BS convo on there?
I think the MOD should delete crap if it is completely unrelated to the Raiders.
No offense….
July 6th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
“Heart Attack Bo”
You and KoolKell are the only bloggers in this forum old enough to wear adult diapers, I am way to young to be thinking about the little blue pill. Nice try though.
You may not own a gun Bo but you have one of those huge pick up trucks, if you know what I mean.
July 6th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
its like an old nickoldian episode my three sons!!!!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
LMN, I’ll bet you love paying that 180% tax on cars, 25% sales tax on all consumer goods, and then of course the 8% health care tax and the high income taxes all so you can enjoy your three 200sq ft apartments. Highest taxes in the world and you are so used to having average things that you think it is utopia, lol.
I wonder why then 1 in 11 people are on anti-depression drugs or in counseling in Denmark? And why do so many people have to carry private health care insurance in Denmark if your system is so great?
Strange.
July 6th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Your guys player Franz Joseph has a big hill to climb. Now he has to compete against a Tight End being converted to Middle Linebacker. O’Neill is the next project. His athleticism left a mark on Davis. Therefore O’Neil makes the team.
Tell you guys what. For a defense that finished so poorly last year….there is an appalling lack of competition at too many key positions. Positions without a dominant player
July 6th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Raider-405 Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
WTF people, is there not a laker board to hold that BS convo on there?
I think the MOD should delete crap if it is completely unrelated to the Raiders.
No offense….
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Bro you would rather listen to this BS?????
Crow Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Crazy Al at it again.
McNair gets shot, but a piece of garbage like Favre lives forever. No, Virginia. There is no god.
2. Dodgers – Can someone explain to me how a team with the BEST RECORD IN MLB BASEBALL, and leading almost EVERY STAT, doesn’t have one single player starting in the All-Star game? The MLB All-Star game is an F’n joke, just like the Pro-Bowl.
3. Regarding Jerry’s last comment about athletes and guns. People kill people Jerry, guns don’t kill people. The “culture” of firearms and athletes you are referring to is composed of a bunch of irresponsible firearm owners that are idiots. Jack azz’s like them ruin it for the rest of us that are responsible firearm owners.
Goooo Cubs!(sorry Dakota)
and all other HATERS!!!!!!!!!!LOL@ THEM bro we are hear for REAL Raider talk and every once and a while a tru CA(PO) fan will Represent thier Colors nothin too bad just good ol fashion SPORTS talk …If your worried about the mods doing there jobs you should have been in here when we where running 10 min wait time to blog b/c the mods/jerry werent cleanin house or postin up!!!!!
Im on one today sorry to all the locals!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Duder,
Bro I thought you where buying your Pa a beer where ya run off to lil fella
July 6th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
SNB 666…
Rich im not, most money I got, I got from when my mum died + when i sold my first appartment…
Dakota…
the one i got now, btw, is 110 m2….
July 6th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
hell Ill even take a Pabst you know RED WHITE AND BLUE!!!!!!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
“Heart Attack Bo”
You and KoolKell are the only bloggers in this forum old enough to wear adult diapers, I am way to young to be thinking about the little blue pill. Nice try though.
You may not own a gun Bo but you have one of those huge pick up trucks, if you know what I mean.
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Strange inferences. I need the blue pill as much as I need a gun, that is NOT AT ALL. In both cases, I have no deficiencies to compensate for.
Oh, and no truck for me. MINI Cooper actually, and a Camry Hybrid. And I bet we’re close to the same age – I only wear the diapers for convenience. LOL.
July 6th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
ahhhhhhhhhh I get it duder and all his “personalities” must live on the East coast it’s time to get jammied up and ready for bed I understand lil guy maybe tomarrow if ur mom isnt working from home again usin all the Dial up for her new web cam buiss.
July 6th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
I only wear the diapers for convenience. LOL.
I love it!!!!!!!!!!! me too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
July 6th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Tell you guys what. For a defense that finished so poorly last year….there is an appalling lack of competition at too many key positions. Positions without a dominant player
yes this is scary…….You hit the nail on the head with Joesph & Co. If we are converting LB’s it speaks Volumes in the comptition Dept.
July 6th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Duder at least tell her hi for my come on or else that 10$$$ a month will stop!!!!!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
LMN, living the Danish dream…wait till mum dies and buy a 700 sq ft apartment!
Utopia!
Thank god cancer survival rates are so low in Denmark due to your government provided health care system that many people in Denmark can achieve such dreams!
July 6th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Alright bro French or not Im sure I proved my point by now!!!! no more allowence for you!!!! have a great day NATION
and again sorry to the locals!!!!!!!!
“it’s been a hard days night and I been workin like a dog”
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
LOL @ “Fat Cat”
For fourth and inches, you could use Bush in the same lineup = “Sneaky Puss”
this is prob the only thing made me smile all day thanks guys!!!oh J-hill you to bro you belive just like I belive keep on keepin on brother!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
What bugs me OAKlifer, is drafting so many LB/DEs and still having to tell a good tight end that we could use him at MLB. Why not draft a true MLB? It is such a complex position that it galls me to think we can just shuffle in raw players. Anyone ever hear of a good NFL MLB who only played offense in college?
Couple that dumb idea with the play of Alston in OTAs, and I feel Marshall has a change up his sleeve. More 3-4? Carrying 7 LBs is a LOT for a base 4-3 defense. A few years back I think we had 5.
July 6th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
OAKlifer Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
yes this is scary…….You hit the nail on the head with Joesph & Co. If we are converting LB’s it speaks Volumes in the comptition Dept.
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OAKlifer,
I guess I see two different approaches to offense and defense. On the offense, the Raiders try to find the elite talent and plug them in. QB, RBs, WRs, TEs are all elite and DRAFTED talents. They have tried to upgrade the O-Line. Gallery and Grove were 1st day picks and the Raiders were aggressive in drafting Mario Henderson. They bring in the absolute best FB in the league to bolster a strong running game.
On defense…its a patchwork of moving players around from position to position….an almost absolute reliance on speed over brawn….and overreliance on undrafted free agents and free agents.
I think the offense is going to look good this year. They will build on the last few games last year. My fear is that the defense continues its middling ways…getting run over and overpowered on the ground…and scored on when the game really counts.
Marshall has his work cut out for him
July 6th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Couple that dumb idea with the play of Alston in OTAs, and I feel Marshall has a change up his sleeve. More 3-4? Carrying 7 LBs is a LOT for a base 4-3 defense. A few years back I think we had 5.
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Still here 10 mins….
Again NAIL on the head I truley believe that all the Marshall talk has been smoke-screens no one holds thier cards closer than Uncle AL we all know that!!
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Why not draft a true MLB? It is such a complex position that it galls me to think we can just shuffle in raw players.
you dnt think that would actually work do ya?????????
July 6th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
On defense…its a patchwork of moving players around from position to position….an almost absolute reliance on speed over brawn….and overreliance on undrafted free agents and free agents.
Its always kinda been Al’s Motto Points win games we need to score more !!! But many moons ago the “speed over brawn….and overreliance on undrafted free agents and free agents.” Were alot tougher and NEEEDED to earn a Living in this day and age you olny need to sign one big contract then you dnt have to earn anything if you dnt love the game it will show!!!
Back then we had a different breed of “outta work” Players hence the FA era….Its long over due to spend some of those Quality picks on D!!!( I still LOVE UNCLE AL THO)
July 6th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
What bugs me OAKlifer, is drafting so many LB/DEs and still having to tell a good tight end that we could use him at MLB. Why not draft a true MLB? It is such a complex position that it galls me to think we can just shuffle in raw players. Anyone ever hear of a good NFL MLB who only played offense in college?
Couple that dumb idea with the play of Alston in OTAs, and I feel Marshall has a change up his sleeve. More 3-4? Carrying 7 LBs is a LOT for a base 4-3 defense. A few years back I think we had 5.
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BSJ,
I actually would like for them to go to a 4-3. It would allow the defense to take advantage of all this speed in the Linebacking corps. Put Ellis and Howard on the outside and Morrison and Brown on the inside. Have TK and Richardson as the 5-techs and just pray to the good Lord that Terdell Sands can be that NT. If not, draft the biggest, meanest guy next year…Oh wait…they need to do that anyway.
July 6th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
“I only wear the diapers for convenience.”
Now that’s funny Bo, like that NASA chick that drove from Huston to Florida to shoot her lovers girlfriend and wore adult diapers so she didn’t have to stop. That kind of convenience?
July 6th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
OAKlifer,
Believe it or not I understand what Al Davis is trying to do. I even understand the rationale and support it. But he is not putting the players in place to make his vision successfull.
I like the idea of having a dominant D-Line that can pressure without blitzing and can physically slow down and stop the run on their own. But you need some big brawny players to do that. Guys like Howie Long, Bill Pickel, Bob Golic, Lyle Alzado and Greg Townsend were guys that were physical football players that had high motors. They dished it out as much as they took it.
This defense on the field right now (camp hasn’t started yet) is SOFT. That’s my problem with this defense. Its too freekn soft. If Mike Mitchell can get on the field….he instantly becomes the most physical player on the defense. That’s messed up.
The linebackers had TWO sacks last year…and couldn’t do much to stuff the run. I know…Rob Ryan didn’t blitz….whatever…
Terdell Sands and Gerard Warren take entire weeks off during the season…and then come up big in a game or two. The rest they just disappear. Tommy Kelly is overpaid for his performance. The DEs don’t pressure the QB and can’t stop the run.
I am hoping that Davis lets Marshall implement his defense as it relates to scheme. Davis wants a 4-3 and the Raiders hired a 4-3 defensive coordinator. Let him do his job.
The Raiders are supposed to be a physical team. They haven’t been that way in years.
July 6th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Dakota…
woaw… that was classy, ill remember that…
July 6th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
In fact…who are the more physical players on the team. Here’s my list:
1. Robert Gallery – Nasty cut blocker.
2. Lorenzo Neal – Hits people for a living
3. Mike Mitchell – Hardest hitter on the team
4. Michael Bush – Breaks tackles and bulldozes
5. Justin Fargas – Runs hard but doesn’t break tackles
6. Chaz Schilens – Receiver that can run block well
7. Isaih Ekijuba – Special teams wizard
8. Nnamdi Asomugha – Big corner but needs to work on run support
9. Darren McFadden – He’s a football player. Cable has to play him
10. Tyvon Branch – I hear he likes to hit as well
July 6th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
“I only wear the diapers for convenience.”
Now that’s funny Bo, like that NASA chick that drove from Huston to Florida to shoot her lovers girlfriend and wore adult diapers so she didn’t have to stop. That kind of convenience?
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No 666, I think he means at parties people ask if he ever goes to the bathroom. He says “depends”
July 6th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I’m shaking in my boots LMN!
Oh wait, that’s right, I just have to utter one word in German and you’ll piss your pants and surrender, lol.
July 6th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Dakota…
Im sure your mom and dad are proud of you…
July 6th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Yes they are…are your parents proud of the piss-ant American hater they raised?
July 6th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Oh wait, that’s right, I just have to utter one word in German and you’ll piss your pants and surrender, lol.
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LMN, one word; Depends
July 6th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
I dont hate america, but you sure hate Denmark and europe….
you apparently cant handle your own medicine…
July 6th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
As for the ‘Surrender’ part keep a derringer in your depends. lol
July 6th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
# Dakota Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
LMN, living the Danish dream…wait till mum dies and buy a 700 sq ft apartment!
Utopia!
Thank god cancer survival rates are so low in Denmark due to your government provided health care system that many people in Denmark can achieve such dreams!
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thank god for the american dream, it must be great to live where your kid can shoot you down…. well then they can go be raised by the state, and go die in a war somewhere…. USA USA USA….
July 6th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
So the Raiders rank No. 116 out of 122 according to ESPN’s ranking of professional franchises. I can hear the cries of “Haters” already, but that’s what you get for 24-72. Who can deny that Raiders fans are getting less for their money than most any team in professional sports over the last six years?
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Al’s doing a poor job as Owner AND General Manager. Maybe at 80 yrs of age, he should just concentrate on one of those Jobs.
July 6th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
LMN you’ve been in here for months hating on America…if you can’t take the retaliation, then I guess maybe you should stop posting anti-American comments on a blog that is predominantly made up of American sports fans?
Sorry I don’t just sit here and let your comments go on without a retort, lol. If you can’t handle it, go back to your tiny closet/apartment and cry yourself to sleep.
July 6th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
So the Raiders rank No. 116 out of 122 according to ESPN’s ranking of professional franchises. I can hear the cries of “Haters” already, but that’s what you get for 24-72. Who can deny that Raiders fans are getting less for their money than most any team in professional sports over the last six years?
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Ouch…hopefully that changes in the next three years. Russell, we are depending on you! You are the key to the next ten years…if you fail we are sunk…no pressure okay?
July 6th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
How about he just concentrates on owning?
# KoolKell Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
So the Raiders rank No. 116 out of 122 according to ESPN’s ranking of professional franchises. I can hear the cries of “Haters” already, but that’s what you get for 24-72. Who can deny that Raiders fans are getting less for their money than most any team in professional sports over the last six years?
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Al’s doing a poor job as Owner AND General Manager. Maybe at 80 yrs of age, he should just concentrate on one of those Jobs.
July 6th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
“Super Bowls are won by Organizations”
-Al Davis, 1984?
July 6th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Post 82, Dakota I don’t see how we’re any more sunk than we are now if he fails. If he fails we eat his salary like we have with so many other draft busts and move on.
I don’t think he’ll fail. I think we will see a steady improvement as this season progresses.
July 6th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Jerry your logic is all wrong. Maybe we’ve never heard of an athlete fending off attackers with their guns because the idea that most high-profile athletes carry a gun prevents such altercations in the first place.
July 6th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Hey LMN, we do have pretty high crime rates in the US…but guess what, you are not that far behind.
“According to the INTERPOL data, for murder, the rate in 2000 was 4.03 for Denmark, 1.10 for Japan, and 5.51 for USA….The rate for all index offenses combined was 3793.12 for Denmark, compared with 1709.88 for Japan and 4123.97 for USA.”
Guess people in your little utopia murder other people too!
July 6th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
I think Jeff Garcia needs to stop his very public lobbying for the job. If he wanted a slam dunk job as a starter…he should have gone to Minnesota.
Jeff Garcia also seems to forget that he plays for an organization that doesn’t seem to like a lot of noise discussed in the media.
What’s with this guy. If he’s this hard nosed competitor…then he should let his play on the field do his talking.
I have never really been all that impressed with Garcia’s play.
July 6th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
BSPN’s NFL live has Golic & Wiley, discussing on should Garcia be the starter over Russell on opening day. (Garcia’s recent comments in the L.A. Times, prefaced this.)
Predictably, they both said Garcia because of his experience, but unless Russell totaly tanks in camp the job is Russell’s, cause thats the way Al wants it.
That dork Wingo did give Russell some props, for finishing strong last season. Citing the same stats that KK likes to bring up, whenever Garcia’s name is mentioned here.
And now back to USA vs. Europ3……
July 6th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Shame about moving Chris O’Neill to MLB. I think we need to TEs who can catch. I don’t see why we don’t run some 2xTE formations – JR is at his most comfortable throwing into the middle lanes. Miller can’t do it on his own and he will be a marked man because of his productivity. I would keep O’Neill as the second receiving TE and either Stewart or Myers as the blocker.
Bit of an indictment about our depth at MLB if a converted TE has a chance of making the 53?
July 6th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
SnB,
I think Lefty said it first…Garcia might not even make the final roster…Charlie Frye may take the backup role.
But, if not, well if Russell can’t take the heat from noodle armed Garcia then he probably doesn’t have what it takes to succeed in the NFL anyhow and we be fooooked.
July 6th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Sands and Fargas to the Bengals for Ocho Cinco. Count on it!
July 6th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Dakota Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
LMN you’ve been in here for months hating on America…if you can’t take the retaliation, then I guess maybe you should stop posting anti-American comments on a blog that is predominantly made up of American sports fans?
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I don;t see LMN hating on America unless he is provoked by anti-EU comments. Today, all he did is note how ridiculous it is for most Americans to be:
1. So in love with guns
2. So likely to be threatened or shot by guns
A fair assessment, regardless of your views on effective gun policies.
EU bashing is too easy without bringing up Mom or cancer. BTW, where were those awesome EU footballers when the good ol’ USA went to the finals against Spain? (and nearly won).
July 6th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Dakota, in regards to health care, don’t forget the fact that the United States provides nearly 100% of the research and development for pharmaceutical drugs and medical devices. As a result, we absorb 80% of the costs of the world’s medical R&D in our drug and other medical prices.
July 6th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
If Jeff Garcia were to play for any reason other than injury…the Raiders are done for another 6 years.
Garcia is a one and done guy. You don’t build a franchise around a 40 year old QB. You build your franchise over a early to mid 20 something QB and you let the kid develop.
Only in Raiderland are QBs expected to dominate in their 1st year as a starter.
Veterans will always be better than the younger QB. Teams that don’t have a stable QB that is or has the potential to be the man for 10 years or so rarely win championships.
July 6th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Dakota Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
SnB,
I think Lefty said it first…Garcia might not even make the final roster…Charlie Frye may take the backup role.
But, if not, well if Russell can’t take the heat from noodle armed Garcia then he probably doesn’t have what it takes to succeed in the NFL anyhow and we be fooooked.
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If Russell falters then the Raiders would be better off going with Charlie Frye, Bruce Gradkowski or….Southwick.
Garcia is 40 years old and is not capable of taking this team to the Super Bowl. Playing him would be a waste of time…unless due to injury for a handful of starts AND the team in some kind of contention.
July 6th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
RaiderNationPA Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Jerry your logic is all wrong. Maybe we’ve never heard of an athlete fending off attackers with their guns because the idea that most high-profile athletes carry a gun prevents such altercations in the first place.
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Yeah, and those athletes are also good at fending off their own thigh…
July 6th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Bo,
He brought his mother into the conversation all by himself…
July 6th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
# Dakota Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
LMN you’ve been in here for months hating on America…if you can’t take the retaliation, then I guess maybe you should stop posting anti-American comments on a blog that is predominantly made up of American sports fans?
Sorry I don’t just sit here and let your comments go on without a retort, lol. If you can’t handle it, go back to your tiny closet/apartment and cry yourself to sleep.
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Bwaahhahahahaha, selfrighteous i say….. I retaliate sue, why lie down and take it… when i was gone from this blog for a month, you every 3rd day hated on Denmark or Europe…
you are in too deep, all you should have done said “yeah I was very un-classy”, “Sorry about that remark”….
btw, why arent you defending the US in 1raq??? you are always high on all those things, but why havent you been pulling your share?
July 6th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
# Dakota Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Bo,
He brought his mother into the conversation all by himself…
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I sure did, she is dead, that is a fact, but that you are a un-classy coward does not make it okay to say what you did…
July 6th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
you are in too deep, all you should have done said “yeah I was very un-classy”, “Sorry about that remark”….
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Can’t do it. that would entail saying he was wrong.lol
July 6th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
LMN, if you want to come in here bragging about your three tiny apartments and how you paid for one when your mom died, that is your problem, not mine. You said it, now keep on living that Danish dream and spewing your anti-American venom…I’ll toss it right back at you.
July 6th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Jeff Garcia 5 Teams in the last 5 years, sounds like a good fit with the Raiders.
July 6th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
LMN
The Right Wingnuts here are unbelievable, really. Locked up in their little Black & White minds.
Simple-minded and Dead Certain about every friggin thing.
July 6th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Jeff Garcia 5 Teams in the last 5 years, sounds like a good fit with the Raiders.
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Fits right in with Kerry Collins, Aaron Brooks, Josh McCown, Daunte Culpepper, Jeff George, Wade Wilson, Jay Schroeder and on and on and on and on
July 6th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
lol
July 6th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Good for Slade! Glad to have you back Jerry. Hope U and yours enjoyed…
I think we’ll keep more than Stewart and Miller. Thats BS. Darrell Strong is going to be a sleeper. Mark my words…
Far as athletes and guns goes, when was the last time you heard about one being mugged, or robbed or murdered in a home invasion, or shot to death in their limo ect ect. Violent world sometimes. I know I feel more secure with training and a weapon, but then again, I’m responsible and and not usre i would’ve been at 24 yrs old with 8 gazillion dollars.
I think Isee where you’re going Jerry. The whole corporate spun “gangsta” thing is a lie.
Too bad alot of them are too naive to see it.
Forgot to say it, so HAPPY BDAY AL!
80…and the Raiders 50th…crazy!
Heres to a winning season boys. Its been too long…
July 6th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Damn shame about Steve McNair. What the hell is going on these days?
July 6th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
KoolKell,
And let’s not forget that Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and even Brett Favre are still playing QB. Rich Gannon was at the end of his career when he got to Oakland. He gave the Raiders a couple of good years and retired. Forcing the Raiders to start all over again at QB.
July 6th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
102. “Anti-American venom”? Fuk yeah, he should! We suk azz lately in case you hadn’t noticed or do you think the Emperor was wearing clothes. Its up to us to demand the truth and not the CIA, Neo Con, (CON being the operative word mind you) FOX “News” spun version.
Compassion, reason and logic.
If you use these, the world and the truth becomes clear.
IF you don’t, you get what we have today.
A serious Clusterf*k.
I love my country but our Government? No Business on Earth could operate like these yahoos. Its a license to steal…from US
July 6th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
SnB Defense Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
KoolKell,
And let’s not forget that Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and even Brett Favre are still playing QB. Rich Gannon was at the end of his career when he got to Oakland. He gave the Raiders a couple of good years and retired. Forcing the Raiders to start all over again at QB.
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Yeah let us not forget Chucky mortgaged the Raiders future for that amazing play off run at the turn of the century.
Did the same to Tampa.
Its one of the leading reasons for our decline. That and instability.
Hopefully Cable will get things straightened out, after all, he’s the first guy to stick around for more than one year in…fuk, a while!
In Cable we trust.
July 6th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
hey every 1. long time reader my 1st time posting.I had to break down and take the time to sign up for word press to say two things.1 must be nice to have jerry macs job caus he’s never doing anything and 2 I HATE DAKOTA
July 6th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
I am surrounded by commies, lol.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
You should probably get out more, Dakota. And I don’t mean camping in Dakota.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Dakota
When I mentioned a few weeks back that Ariza would be leaving the Lakers a few Laker fans (which included you, although I could be mistaken) bashed me and displayed zero sense of humor.
Now that it turns out that I was right, what are your thoughts about Artest? I have a feeling it may come back to bite the Lakers in the ass. I could be wrong.
So on another note, I thought you and LMN were pals. I guess I have been gone too long.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Dogg, Artest is twice the player Ariza is…if his head is on right. Big if.
LMN and I do this every July. It is like a ritual. He cried about his mommy last time too.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
“(I don’t doubt Lombardi’s assertion Russell was absent. He knows enough people in the organization to get that information. Left a couple of messages with players I trust which have not been returned, which isn’ t unusual for July when many are taking time off before gearing up for camp).”
So there is a rat in the Raiders organization? It’s the only explanation as to why anyone would ever talk to that POS Lombardi let alone give him “inside information”. Sounds as if maybe Lombardi is getting his “info” from Victor Vicodin. We all know how reliable Victor is with his “inside info”.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Nnamdi21,
Exactly why the Raiders have to “allow” Russell to continue his development on the field. People seem to forget that highly ranked QBs don’t even play until their 3rd year. Rivers, Pennington, McNair, Rogers didn’t even play much in their 1st TWO YEARS in the league. Another bunch of QBs had “unspectacular” 2nd years.
Yet those teams, with media support, stuck with their QBs. Only the Raiders are supposed to junk the rebuilding program and go win 7 or 8 gms with a 40 year old QB. Stupid
July 6th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
115. Ahhh sweet…
July 6th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Dakota Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Dogg, Artest is twice the player Ariza is…if his head is on right. Big if.
LMN and I do this every July. It is like a ritual. He cried about his mommy last time too.”
Artest is by far a better player, but he’s a loose cannon. The Celtics tried to one up you guys by signing hot head Rasheed Wallace.
I can see it now, the Finals 2010, Artest and Wallace come to blows. Paul Pierce gets caught up in the melee and gets carried off the court in a stretcher, only to re-appear minutes later.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Dogg, I don’t remember discussing Ariza with you, but I think I said from the begining that I hoped we kept Odom over Ariza…but that I wanted to keep both. Good luck in Houston Ariza…you won’t have any wide open 3s down there!
Can we have Turiaf back?
July 6th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
There’s a lot of people who don’t want Russell, didn’t want him drafted here.
I’ve never seem so many Raider fans against one of their own. 91 passer rating over the last 7 games, be damned.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
no football talk here in july?
July 6th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
start with this whos gonna be are fn qb?
July 6th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Blair’s 10 rebounds/game and Jefferson’s 18 points per game will be enough to get Timmy D his 5th championship. Spurs have had the best offseason of anyone.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
jeff garcia has been talkin ish this weekend says hes the best on the team sad part is he right
July 6th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
There’s a lot of people who don’t want Russell, didn’t want him drafted here.
I’ve never seem so many Raider fans against one of their own. 91 passer rating over the last 7 games, be damned.
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Russell is really poised to have a pretty solid year this year. 3200 yds….20 TDS…8 to 10 INTs type of year.
If he simply builds on how he played those last 7….the Raiders will be fine on offense. Also, Cable should be more aggressive in the playcalling and let the kid throw the ball.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
KK,
Anyone that doesn’t want Russell to succeed is a moron and should be shot per the second amendment… “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, and the right of Raider fans to shoot morons that don’t want Russell to succeed, shall not be infringed.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
mcskinnylegs Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
jeff garcia has been talkin ish this weekend says hes the best on the team sad part is he right
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B.S…he’s dead wrong. Jeff Garcia has absolutely no upside. Couldn’t take a 9-3 team to the playoffs and lost every game. Couldn’t beat an undermanned Raider team at home and made FEWER plays than the QB he professes to want to replace.
Garcia has met his ceiling several years ago. Russell’s team went 3-3 down the stretch. Could have been 4-2 had they been more judicious with their 4th down playcalling.
I’ll take the 96+ QB rating guy over the guy who could get his 9-3 team into the playoffs
July 6th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
# Dakota Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
LMN, if you want to come in here bragging about your three tiny apartments and how you paid for one when your mom died, that is your problem, not mine. You said it, now keep on living that Danish dream and spewing your anti-American venom…I’ll toss it right back at you.
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well no i didnt, if you had a proper schoolsystem you would be able to read…..
SnB666, said I claimed to be rich…. I said, I own 3 apartments, the one I live in now i only could afford because i sold one of the 3 and used the money form the sell, and the inheritance…
what have you done for the mighty USA? btw, arent you a bit twofaced?
July 6th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Russell’s stats are not much worse than Roethlisburger’s. IF Russell had a dominant defense, he would be just as praised as that overrated bum.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Geez LMN, let it go. Our school system does suck, but it’s only because it’s run by our worthless government. Your school system would suck too if your population was larger.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
# Dakota Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
LMN and I do this every July. It is like a ritual. He cried about his mommy last time too.
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last year you didnt say anything about my mom, infact you told the others about how little i like it…
but hey, im waiting for the headline, kid kills his dad in South Dakota, with his awesome .45….
July 6th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Jeff Garcia can talk all he wants…hell if my wife was that hot I would talk trash too all day long.
But it doesn’t matter what that little noodle arm ginger looking freak says and the rest of you for even entertaining these thoughts.
When you are paying a guy 14 Million dollars there is no way he is sitting on the bench in an Al Davis ran organization.
Period
The end
July 6th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
The interviewer should have asked Garcia why he’s going on his 6th team. Why his team didn’t make the playoffs. Why he threw the interception to Baker.
I’ll take the 24yr old with the cannon arm and strong finish over the 39yr old with happy feet, a weak arm, who couldn’t win 1 game out of 4 to get into the playoffs
July 6th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
DMunoz, I’m always surprised when you find your way onto the blog. That someone as mentally challenged as yourself is actually able to operate a computer is a salute to modern pharmaceutical medicine.
Sadly, your lame predictions don’t validate the hour or two you spend typing them out. Your time would be better served staring at a white wall or picking your belly button.
Like our sad old friend Krappy, you’re much better off in a controlled environment where you can get the care you need. Like a fish tank.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Dakota Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Dogg, I don’t remember discussing Ariza with you, but I think I said from the begining that I hoped we kept Odom over Ariza…but that I wanted to keep both. Good luck in Houston Ariza…you won’t have any wide open 3s down there!
Can we have Turiaf back?”
I didn’t think it was you, but all of you Laker fans type alike. LOL.
Odom over Ariza, especially considering Odom already has said he would take less money to stick around.
Turiaf must be bummed about missing out on a ring but he seems to be pretty psyched to be a part of the W’s resurgence. Turiaf must feel like he is playing with house money, considering all that he has been through in his life. He is an inspiration to many.
So I heard that the Cubs have been sold. Is this a good or bad thing? Maybe new ownership can take them over the hump somehow, maybe willing to spend more money or whatever it takes for them to get off the 100+ year shnide.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
HaHa nice
July 6th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Now speaking of effeminate men in the NFL. Will Vince Young ever recover from his embarrassment of getting caught dancing topless at the gay bar?
July 6th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
LMN
Maybe it’s time to get “Comfortably Numb”, sit back and listen to some Floyd or something.
How have you been btw, I haven’t been around in a while?
July 6th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Now speaking of effeminate men in the NFL. Will Vince Young ever recover from his embarrassment of getting caught dancing topless at the gay bar?”
Or will Brady Quinn ever remove his hand from his buddy’s crotch?
July 6th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
LMN,
So the money you got from when your mom died helped you pay for your apartment? Right? Like I said you are living the Danish dream!
Hey, thanks for the laundry services in Afgh@nistan though!
July 6th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
How many days/weeks into camp will it take Cornell Greene, to go “Mop handle” on Garcia, after one of Garcia’s “Rah Rah” speeches in the huddle?
July 6th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Dakota does not phuk around. I am glad he is on my team.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
beeecham
What number did you have in the office pool today for how many times KooKell would soil his adult diapers in a span of 12 hours?
I had 4
July 6th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
909RaiderLifer
Garcia is kind of girlish so old “Mop Handle” might be able to take him……(with the mop handle in hand of course)
RaiderDogg!!
I love Floyd (Echoes)
July 6th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
LMN
Maybe it’s time to get “Comfortably Numb”, sit back and listen to some Floyd or something.
How have you been btw, I haven’t been around in a while?
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im great, what about you?…. yeah some PF always helps
July 6th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
# Dakota Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
LMN,
So the money you got from when your mom died helped you pay for your apartment? Right? Like I said you are living the Danish dream!
Hey, thanks for the laundry services in Afgh@nistan though!
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let me get this right, you are love guns, because the army didnt want you sorry ass? or you like guns because its the only way you think you are cool and tough?….
if you are so high on USA, why dont you serve them?
July 6th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
LMN, not sure if you’re familiar with this, but if you have a certain medical condition or history, the US military will not allow you to enlist. eg. a history of concussions and herniated discs from playing football in high school.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
# Dakota Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
LMN and I do this every July. It is like a ritual. He cried about his mommy last time too.
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last year you didnt say anything about my mom, infact you told the others about how little i like it…
but hey, im waiting for the headline, kid kills his dad in South Dakota, with his awesome .45….
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Oh settle down you little euro…you know damned well, or you should, that I told a yo momma joke that set you off last year, lol. You cried like a little girl, so maybe I did tell everyone how sensitive you are about it later.
Dude, my .45 is awesome!
July 6th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
LMN
I am great, thanks. I have been getting into Muddy Waters lately, probably because I just finished reading his biography “Can’t Be Satisfied”. Good stuff.
BTW I believe that Dakota’s profession dictates that he carries a firearm.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
SNB
Got Mule? Did you get your tix yet?
I have a copy of a Floyd show from ‘77 where the first set is the Animals album in it’s entirety. Good sh1t man.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
I still find it hard to believe that there is someone in the Raiders organization that is willing to give Mike Lombardi any kind of info. Mike must pay well…
July 6th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Garcia: 107 comp 176 att 61% 1349 yds 7tds 3 ints Rating 90.8
Russell: 78 comp 130 att 60% 978 yds 7tds 4 ints Rating 88.6
Now Garcia is 39 yrs old going on his 6th team….Russell is 23 going into his 2nd year as a starter.
Garcia’s team was 9-3 heading down the stretch and ended 0-4 Russell’s team was 2-8 and finised 3-3 KNOCKING Denver and Tampa out of the playoffs on the road and beating Houston at home.
Not to mention Garcia’s weak arm, happy feet and age.
Anyone saying Garcia should be the QB or is the better QB has to really call their football IQ into question
July 6th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Dakota…
funny how you dance around the ’serving USA’ thingy…
is it a sign of your broken dreams? and you then compensate on have handguns and voting for everything bush, so they might need you? LOL
July 6th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
LMN,
I have a gun because I need one. I am not a hunter, nor am I a gun enthusiast. I need protection from my family because my job brings me into contact with the lowliest of lowlifes. I didn’t join the army because I graduated from high school in 1994 and the only reason to join at that time was to get a free education. My country didn’t need me, there were no threats. I fully planned on entering the Marine Corps back in the cold war days…didn’t quite work out. Life is all about timing. If my country called I would answer. So what is your point? My family has a long, solid tradition of military service.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Anyone here live in the bay area?
July 6th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
for…not from…my bad.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
# Dakota Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
LMN,
I have a gun because I need one. I am not a hunter, nor am I a gun enthusiast. I need protection from my family because my job brings me into contact with the lowliest of lowlifes. I didn’t join the army because I graduated from high school in 1994 and the only reason to join at that time was to get a free education. My country didn’t need me, there were no threats. I fully planned on entering the Marine Corps back in the cold war days…didn’t quite work out. Life is all about timing. If my country called I would answer. So what is your point? My family has a long, solid tradition of military service.
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You own a pawn shop?
July 6th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
RaiderNationPA Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Anyone here live in the bay area?”
Yes, what’s up?
July 6th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Triple 6, I’ve made it a policy to never place bets on Krappy’s behavior in our office pool because you can never predict what the senile might do.
Another problem is Krappy often craps the same pair of pajamas within minutes of each other, which makes scoring a bit of a challenge.
But it sounds like you’re making a pretty safe wager with 4 pant dumps per day. I’d take those odds.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Dakota is a hunter, a Milf Hunter!
July 6th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
The KoolKell I know sh1ts on his enemies, not in his drawers.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Dogg,
I’m going to the Denver game (my first Raiders game in Oakland!). Then I have a conference in SF that Mon. and Tues. (i’m not sure exactly where in SF yet) Am I better off staying in OAK or SF?
July 6th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
# RaiderNationPA Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
LMN, not sure if you’re familiar with this, but if you have a certain medical condition or history, the US military will not allow you to enlist. eg. a history of concussions and herniated discs from playing football in high school.
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yeah I know about that, its not that unique a thing i you thought so?! most armies dont like invalids to serve or just people with deficiencies….
July 6th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Lol, good one Einstein…I guess my clientele isn’t THAT bad!
July 6th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Dakota you crack me up.
“the lowliest of lowlifes” You mean Raider fans?
“If my country called I would answer” I would put them on hold myself as much money as they have taken from me. After I had em on hold for like 45 minutes then I would pick up the phone and go “oh your still there hold on a minute let me go get him”. Then put them back on hold for another hour or so.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
RaiderNationPA Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Dogg,
I’m going to the Denver game (my first Raiders game in Oakland!). Then I have a conference in SF that Mon. and Tues. (i’m not sure exactly where in SF yet) Am I better off staying in OAK or SF?”
Personally I would stay in SF unless you are trying to be frugal. There is much more to do with your down time in SF, plus BART trains can take you from SF directly to the Coliseum.
Congrats on your first Raider game. It will not be your last I guarantee that!
July 6th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
I agree with RaiderDogg
Who in our organization would give that fat turd Lombardi information?
That’s the question we need to be asking ourselves.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Dakota really lives in Hawaii, he has a Blond wife with huge boobs and an attitude to match. He goes back and forth between Hawaii and Colorado…
July 6th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
I agree with RaiderDogg
Who in our organization would give that fat turd Lombardi information?
That’s the question we need to be asking ourselves.”
That’s what I am talking about!
July 6th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
RaiderNationPA
If you have any Nads stay on 98th St in Oakland.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Thanks Dogg… I appreciate it. Hopefully I’ll be going to the game here in Pittsburgh too, so any of you west coasters that want to make a trip to the Burgh in early Dec. let me know, we’ll meet up.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Maybe we could weed out the MOLE
July 6th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
# Dakota Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
I have a gun because I need one. I am not a hunter, nor am I a gun enthusiast. I need protection from my family because my job brings me into contact with the lowliest of lowlifes.
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Trailer park chemist?
July 6th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Gotta go…LMN, go to bed and when you wake up in the morning, sing God Bless America 3 times for your penance.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
666 you and that Little Beech bring so much class and perspective to this blog.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
# Dakota Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
LMN,
I have a gun because I need one. I am not a hunter, nor am I a gun enthusiast. I need protection from my family because my job brings me into contact with the lowliest of lowlifes. I didn’t join the army because I graduated from high school in 1994 and the only reason to join at that time was to get a free education. My country didn’t need me, there were no threats. I fully planned on entering the Marine Corps back in the cold war days…didn’t quite work out. Life is all about timing. If my country called I would answer. So what is your point? My family has a long, solid tradition of military service.
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“I fully planned on entering the Marine Corps” bwahahahahhaa yeah like they want a fatty slob like you =) LOL man you ahve high hopes about yourself
why not join after college? you had guys down in yugo-land, i educated several american soldiers down their…. if you are so faithful to the mighty USA, why didnt you sign up and have a career in the army…. you dont want to be “everything that you can be” ??
lastly, if USA is so great, why would anybody need a gun? when you had to travel to California you said you needed to take it with ya, does that mean you tell the “lowliest of lowlifes” where you are going because thats not very smart… in fact if you need to travel with a firearm when on a trip with your family it really seems you see you .45 as an important part of your family….
July 6th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Dakota’s gone… enough with the America bashing. We get enough of that from the ungratefuls here in the US.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
# Dakota Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Gotta go…LMN, go to bed and when you wake up in the morning, sing God Bless America 3 times for your penance.
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that will only happen when your mom and dad dies of a horrible and tough decease…
July 6th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
LMN stfu you Euro puzzy. The world rotates around The United States of America. Quit acting like a bitter little Euro beeyotch, and stfu already. Go watch a soccer, excuse me, “football” match.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Einstein, you’re still the troll idiot, aren’t cha?
July 6th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Everyone needs to celebrate 4:20 accordingly and mellow the F out.
What’s with all of the hostility today?
July 6th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Mr One-stone….
LOL, yeah, well there isnt any games at this time of night…
of course you are right, The world rotates around The United States of America…..
btw, how does that work? does that mean USA is the Sun or what? or is it the poles?
Im not a Euro, but I sure rather be a Euro than a dollar….
July 6th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Tough talkin internet hoodlums, lol.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
LMN,
Sorry buddy, I may have put on some weight after I turned thirty, but I am far from a fatty slob even now…
Why would I join the army after college? In 1998 we were only lobbing cruise missles round the world.
And as far as crime is concerned…didn’t you see the post that demonstrated that the US crime rate wasn’t that much higher then Denmark’s? Even the murder rate? Besides, I needed a gun in Cali to shoot all the libs, not the criminals.
Give it up LMN, Denmark is to the US what the Warriors are to the Lakers…no offense Raiderdogg
July 6th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Everyone needs to celebrate 4:20 accordingly and mellow the F out.
What’s with all of the hostility today?
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dont know, but when someone says something about my mom, im on the warpath…. no matter what =)
I have one problem with 4:20….. that its 4:20… no the best date, had it just been 4:21…. much better =)
July 6th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Didn’t take much for LMN’s true colors to come out, lol.
Too easy.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
LMN
Who gives a sh1t what some stranger, that you have never met and who didn’t know your mom at all, has to say?
We all have the “mom defense mechanism” hard wired in our psyche so it is certainly understandable. Don’t let it get to you so much.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Krappy, I’m a little confused on your definition of “class”, especially coming from an old goat who stumbles through the Arby’s drive thru in his hospital gown with his ass hanging out of the back.
But I do take into account your probably just defrosted your head in the microwave, so the radiation hasn’t quite worn off yet.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
# KoolKell Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Einstein, you’re still the troll idiot, aren’t cha?
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Nope, never have, never will. Always and forever will be the genius that is me.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
What about LMN’s mom? Is she hot? Got any pics of her to pass around? Come on….
July 6th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
“Give it up LMN, Denmark is to the US what the Warriors are to the Lakers…no offense Raiderdogg”
Dakota can say whatever he wants about my mom, but don’t you EVER talk about my Warriors like that!
July 6th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Denmark does a lot of things better than the U.S.
But a lot of Americans are stupid.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
For those who are against Jamarcus Russell and I’m 50/50 on him…With a reasonable answer, who would you rather have as a long term answer right now? Its not easy for young QB’s to start off strong so should we have drafted someone else that day or who else could we have gotten to play instead?
Maybe JR wasn’t the right guy that day but building your team around a young QB who has talent is the right idea isn’t it?
July 6th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Plus I have seen the Warriors beat the Lakers a few times in my day. Maybe you should have said the Clippers instead of the W’s, at least the W’s have a ring.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Kirk – Alot of people are stupid in general. Its not just American’s.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
I tell a Denmark bitch like this Bitch, Denmark without the United States is like Harry Melvin without Bluenotes, you’ll neva go platinum!!
July 6th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
JR got a lot better once he got a decent left tackle.
Funny thing about that.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
The Military operates 24/7 War or no war. But it’s interesting all the Neo’s didn’t serve.
I served in the US Navy, best time of my life. I’m a lib commie though.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
And speaking of LMN’s mom, maybe we can hook her old ass up with KrappyKell. Both seem equally worn out, hooked on medication and can split the cost of diapers.
And I’m sure its been decades since either has had the good fortune of being with a member of the opposite sex.
Hey LMN, does your mommy live anywhere near Krappy? Maybe we can start with a microwave burrito date at Krappy’s pad and move on to Arby’s when things start to “heat up”.
And by heat up, I mean they both crap their pants simultaneously.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
“Maybe JR wasn’t the right guy that day but building your team around a young QB who has talent is the right idea isn’t it?”
24
Don’t go using logic and common sense in this forum. It ends too many heated discussions.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
The women in Denmark are way hotter.
Denmark gets 20% of their energy from wind power, and they also have less crime.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
LMN, what exactly did I say about your mom anyhow?
You brought up that she died and that helped you buy an apartment. You brought it up. I then said you were living the Danish dream, wait till your “mum” dies and buy a 700 sq ft apartment…I was attacking you and how you got money, and the high aspirations of the Danish people…not your mom. And then I burned your health care system for having lower cancer survival rates than the US…
Nothing against your mom…just you and your dinky little nation, lol.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Kirk Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
JR got a lot better once he got a decent left tackle.
Funny thing about that.
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Amazing isn’t?
July 6th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Dakota
I do hope you sensed the sarcasm in my last few posts. Now if you had said something about my dog…
July 6th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
“Maybe JR wasn’t the right guy that day but building your team around a young QB who has talent is the right idea isn’t it?”
24
Don’t go using logic and common sense in this forum. It ends too many heated discussions.
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But is building your team around a young QB who has the color of skin JaMarcus has the right idea?
You show me one yet that has been a good choice? Not saying “whitey” is any better, but the numbers simply don’t lie….
July 6th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Kirk – Very true. JR has no reason to not succeed this year in my opinion. The Offensive Coaching staff is better than last year. The running backs are healthier. The WR’s have more experience. The offensive line is improved. The Defense has a better Defensive Coordinator. If JR can’t play better in his 3rd season, theres every reason to believe that maybe hes not the guy.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
I want JaMarcus to be the guy. I just don’t see it in him.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
I can’t believe our nation’s policies are being guided by mindless, liberal drones whose ideas of a good time include firing off a round of knuckle children in their parents basements while blogging about global warming.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Einstein – But you don’t see it in him because hes black?
July 6th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
The best black athletes in the NFL aren’t QB’s, and I would even argue that black athletes are simply the BEST athletes in the NFL. Just not QB’s..
July 6th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
# 24 Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Einstein – But you don’t see it in him because hes black?
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You could say that. You could say that there hasn’t been very many successful black QB’s in the NFL. But, you can also say the most success of any athlete in the NFL is black. The best players, the legends, the Hall of Famers….
July 6th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Steve McNair would beg to differ
July 6th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
I really doubt DHB is going to have any real impact in his 1st season. I think Walker will show up more than last year. Higgins is explosive and can be a playmaker. Schilens is big with great hands. DHB is just going to sit back and learn for the most part I think.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Steve McNair would beg to differ
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Step off the sympathy train man. WTF did Steve McNair do? Went to ONE Superbowl, so f’n what. McNair was a great player for sure. But even still, you gave ONE example.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Einstein – Maybe Jamarcus can be “The Guy” that changes that perception?
July 6th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Was Doug Williams a big reason the Redskins won the Superbowl?
July 6th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
America doesn’t have a City in the Top 20, for Quality of living.
http://www.mercer.com/referencecontent.htm?idContent=1173105#Top_50_cities:_Quality_of_living
July 6th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
It has nothing to do with skin color, but rather athleticism. QBs that are extremely confident in their running abilities are more likely to lean on those ablilities rather than study. The best QBs in the league are not very athletic and, thus, must put in hours of film study and mechanical work to make up for it. Lucky for them, the film study and mechanical work are just as, if not more, important than having athleticism.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Lol, of course Dogg…and the Clippers would have been a better example…I gave Denmark way too much credit by comparing them to the Warriors!
Damn, I am way late…it has been fun.
Remember LMN, the only reason you are not speaking German right now is the US of A (I know, you think the Russians and England won WWII…just proves what a dumbass you really are)…now stfu and buy a poster of Mount Rushmore and some Levi jeans.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
# Dakota Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
LMN, what exactly did I say about your mom anyhow?
You brought up that she died and that helped you buy an apartment. You brought it up. I then said you were living the Danish dream, wait till your “mum” dies and buy a 700 sq ft apartment…I was attacking you and how you got money, and the high aspirations of the Danish people…not your mom. And then I burned your health care system for having lower cancer survival rates than the US…
Nothing against your mom…just you and your dinky little nation, lol.
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we had lower rates before 2003, but since we had better than yous, and your murder rate thing is not true by any measure
SnB666 said I acted like i was rich, I got some pennies but my dad got most, I shared some of it with my brother and sister, I used it to upgrade my living situation, so i could move from nice boring neighbourhood to a bigger appartment in a more youthful part of the city…
you said “Thank god for cancer survival rates were low” thats practical saying “good your mom is dead”…
and our health care system is by ALL measures better…
July 6th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
# 24 Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Einstein – Maybe Jamarcus can be “The Guy” that changes that perception?
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He11 yes my Raider brother. I want him to be that guy badly!! But history is against him, and his back is against the wall. I just don’t think he has it in him to be that guy to change the perception, he hasn’t shownn it yet.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
24
did you see Bill Williamson talking about Marvin Harrison might be a good fit in Oakland if he chose to come to Oakland?
Posted by ESPN.com’s Bill Williamson
Weekend mail call:
J-Ben from Wichita, KS wants to know if the Raiders could be in play for free agent wide receiver Marvin Harrison.
Bill Williamson: Harrison’s foray into free agency has been interesting. You hear his name connected to teams once in a while, but he certainly hasn’t been a hot name since. The latest team to surface is Minnesota. That makes sense, especially if Brett Favre signs with the Vikings. Harrison would be a perfect complementary receiver in Minnesota. Still, I maintain he’d be a nice fit in Oakland as well. The Raiders have young receivers who are fast but who are unproven. Harrison would be a nice No. 3 receiver and he’d be a great outlet for young Oakland quarterback JaMarcus Russell. Still, Harrison is used to being on a winning team and he likely wouldn’t want to be part of a rebuilding project. So, if Minnesota really is an option, he might be more inclined to go there than Oakland if the Raiders came calling.”
You’ve seen it now
July 6th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
# 24 Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Was Doug Williams a big reason the Redskins won the Superbowl?
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That was one game dude. What did he do before or after that. He was fantastic in that Superbowl.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
KK, that list was probably made by a bunch of liberal America-haters.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Einstein – Well lets hope he changes that because the Raiders desperately need to turn this thing around and its on his shoulders now. He hasn’t shown it yet but hes shown some flashes and now he needs to show consistency in his 3rd season so this is the time.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
# Dakota Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Lol, of course Dogg…and the Clippers would have been a better example…I gave Denmark way too much credit by comparing them to the Warriors!
Damn, I am way late…it has been fun.
Remember LMN, the only reason you are not speaking German right now is the US of A (I know, you think the Russians and England won WWII…just proves what a dumbass you really are)…now stfu and buy a poster of Mount Rushmore and some Levi jeans.
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again you only know american propaganda… if it hadnt been for ENGLAND we would have been a part of SOVJET… not Germany
but nice that you can talk the talk, but not walk the walk, wannabe rambo, US Army this, US Army that…. if you ever had served, the respect of you would be higher, and it shows that your compensating for not “being what you could have been”….
July 6th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Einstein – I was just asking because I don’t know.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
How many Super bowl victories does Peyton Manning have?
July 6th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Dakota…
you just run away again, maybe that was why the Army wasnt a thing for you, they dont like cowards that much..
July 6th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
RaiderNationPA Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
KK, that list was probably made by a bunch of liberal America-haters.
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It’s always the people who’ve never been 50 miles outside the County, that are soooooooo certain of everything.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
RaiderDogg – I don’t know man…Harrison is not the same anymore, mentally and physically. I think the gun situation really messed him up and his knee failed him at the same time. I just don’t see Al adding him with Javon Walker, Higgins, Schilens and DHB on the squad. I think its a little late now. I wouldn’t mind it but its late.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
LMN,
I understand being upset about the whole mom thing (God rest her soul), but I can’t believe you just said that your healthcare system is better by ALL measures. Cheaper does not mean better. I’d rather pay more for better quality.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
# 24 Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Einstein – Well lets hope he changes that because the Raiders desperately need to turn this thing around and its on his shoulders now. He hasn’t shown it yet but hes shown some flashes and now he needs to show consistency in his 3rd season so this is the time.
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I completely agree with you bro. He has to be the guy. If he isn’t, we are seriously fauked up for another 5+ years.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
RaiderNationPA Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
KK, that list was probably made by a bunch of liberal America-haters.
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It’s always the people who’ve never been 50 miles outside the County, that are soooooooo certain of everything.
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I can understand LMN’s defending his country… as he should. But what kind of coward hates on his own country. You’re free to move to any country you wish.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
If anything…the lack of successful QB’s probably has alot to do with the past. It took a long time for this society to see things equally, black or white. I’m sure the QB position has taken a little longer when it comes to accepting the black man as a leader of his team just like it took awhile for people to accept black men as Head Coaches. Alot of this equality is still very new to this country and I’m sure it still suffers in many ways. I mean…we just finally had our first black president. Things are progressing but slowly and I’m sure people overlook black men for the QB position because it doesn’t look right to them yet. It will change and we will see more talent down the road.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
# KoolKell Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
How many Super bowl victories does Peyton Manning have?
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Come on KK, you know the answer to that. But, the Manning family has two. Not sure where you are going with the Manning thing.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
How many Super bowl victories does Peyton Manning have?”
1. Or was that a rhetorical question?
July 6th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
# RaiderNationPA Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
LMN,
I understand being upset about the whole mom thing (God rest her soul), but I can’t believe you just said that your healthcare system is better by ALL measures. Cheaper does not mean better. I’d rather pay more for better quality.
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exactly, we pay more, and get more – and its for everybody…
July 6th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
I bought some property in Swiss last year. I’m considering it.
But, have you even been outside of this country, ever?
July 6th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
LMN, have you ever met my pal Charged Down? He’s this pale, skinny high school junior from San Diego who’s always whining about something.
Oh and he plays in a Blink 182 cover band when he’s not doing his homework. You sound like a big gay Euro, so you probably haven’t heard from them. But they’re sort of like the Chargers in that they’ve been around for a while but haven’t accomplished a single thing.
Anyway, I can see the two of you becoming best of friends. I’ll try to set it up next time he visits the blog.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
LMN, I am going home, not running away. I’ll see you tomorrow you little POS Euro trash. Now go put some pit stick on and maybe you will finally find a woman that won’t run away to England to get away from you.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
24 Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
RaiderDogg – I don’t know man…Harrison is not the same anymore, mentally and physically. I think the gun situation really messed him up and his knee failed him at the same time. I just don’t see Al adding him with Javon Walker, Higgins, Schilens and DHB on the squad. I think its a little late now. I wouldn’t mind it but its late.”
I feel you. It’s funny, but I forget about Walker all the time. I think Harrison could offer some much needed veteran leadership in the wr corps, but I don’t see him in Oakland. I bet he signs with someone by training camp. Maybe the Vikings like Williamson said, or I wouldn’t be surprised if he re-signed with the Colts.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
I have not KK. I like it here. I wouldn’t mind going to the African savanah or the Australian outback, but other than that I’m perfectly content here.
LMN,
You pay your government to buy healthcare for all. I’d rather pay for my own. And if the US ever went to gov provided healthcare the whole world would be screwed bc we subsidize 80% of the R&D costs of your healthcare.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
This is the car I want…
http://autoracingsport.com/wp-content/uploads/nascar09/cars/chevy_camaro_2010.jpg
July 6th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
# Dakota Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
LMN, I am going home, not running away. I’ll see you tomorrow you little POS Euro trash. Now go put some pit stick on and maybe you will finally find a woman that won’t run away to England to get away from you.
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LOL she’s home again, thats why i needed a bigger appartment…
she might go again in 1½ years, but we cross that bridge when we get there…
now go home to you wife that you got pregnant when you were 24, go hate her, go drive to your nearby t1tty-bar and cheat on her, then as usual you cause the disappointments in yourself and your life youll beat the crap out of her, while yelling USA USA USA…
go enjoy… btw if you ever want to see a well-run country you are welcome to visit, though I now just crossing the state-line makes you scared…
July 6th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
I agree with you Dogg, Harrison will wait for someone to go down in training camp. Seems like a big-name recceiver goes down every year with a bad hammy.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
24
That’s pretty fukkin sweet. Better get a Raider personalized license plate, something like R8R 24 or SnB 24…
July 6th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
# RaiderNationPA Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
LMN,
You pay your government to buy healthcare for all. I’d rather pay for my own. And if the US ever went to gov provided healthcare the whole world would be screwed bc we subsidize 80% of the R&D costs of your healthcare.
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thats just because everything run by americans goes down the drain, you have proved that several times…
here we dont BUY health care, its RUN by the state…
funny thing is, all that you celebrate in your declaration of independence and bill of rights, is not much worth when all you think is about is “mine” “mine”, “mine”….. your founding fathers would probably be ashamed…
July 6th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
gotta go, for a check up, ill be back in 45 min or so….
July 6th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Einstein,
Part of the reason there haven’t been as many great black QBs as whites has to do with a couple of things.
1. Historically many black QBs were not encouraged to pursue the position. That kept the number of possible candidates down
2. Many black QBs happen to also be athletic QBs. They then go to colleges who try to exploit that athleticism to win college games. Those colleges also have been very successfull at winning college games that way. Unfortunately, many of those QBs are not working on reading defenses and such that they need at the next level.
2a. This issue is not unique to black Qbs. Athletic white QBs have struggled as well. Look at the discussion around Tim Tebow. How many starting QBs in the NFL not named Manning come from the SEC or Big 12? Even Steve Young took SEVERAL years to figure out the passing game. Had it not been for Bill Walsh…we probably never hear of the guy.
Your question actually brings up another question for me. Why would a QB want to go play for a program that doesn’t play a pro-style offense? Look at Chase Daniels, Graham Harrell and the Bama QB. Not even drafted despite putting up big numbers. If I were a young QB, I would go play for a lesser team that ran a more pro-style attack and by-pass your Florida’s, Texas and Alabama’s of the world
July 6th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
BTW,
The political discussion on here has been pretty low-brow stuff.
If you guys are going to post non-football stuff…at least have an intelligent conversation. Really stupid stuff you all are posting around here.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Exactly SnB D
July 6th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Einstein, truth be told there would be amuch marger sample size of black QB if the league had allowed those coming in to develope as QB’s. White QB’s are allowed to sit on the bench and learn he game. Black QB were forced to learn a different position or lose their jobs. That is the basic difference in black QB dominating that position.
Tom Brady was allowed to sit and wait his turn as was Gannon Steve Young was allowed to stay at QB. They want Vick to change positions.
Ken Stabler was allowed to sit and wait his turn while Eldridge Dickey was forced out of the league. Dickey was far superior to Stabler as a QB but he was black. Once he didn’t show greatness he was sent packing eventhough he was the better player buy far.
JaMarcus Russell is very similar to Eldridge Dickey in size, stature athleticism and arm strength. But Stabler was White and talented so he sat for 5 years until he could play. Russell probably reminds Mr Davis of Dickey in a lot of ways. Not mentin the fcact that he gave up on Dickey.
Give these black QB’s the same opportunity to fail and learn and develope and you’ll see maybe better results than their white counterparts. Maybe!!
July 6th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
RaiderNationPA Says:
I’m going to the Denver game (my first Raiders game in Oakland!). Then I have a conference in SF that Mon. and Tues. (i’m not sure exactly where in SF yet) Am I better off staying in OAK or SF?
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RNPA — Asking where to stay is a legit question, and it’s also germaine to the debate we have in here occasionally…about why Oakland isn’t the preferred place to stay for many people who go to games.
San Fran’s got all kinds of tourist-y things to do, but it’s not necessarily the place you want to stay the night before/after a game.
First, there’s the traffic issue…and it can be a real monster commute to/from San Fran on game day — especially for a visitor unfamiliar with the area/s. Second, what about partying hard and having to drive afterward? Staying closer to the stadium is way more convenient for these, and other reasons.
Below are a few of about a half-dozen hotels near the stadium in Oakland, and they cater to Raiders fans on game weekends.
The Oakland Airport Hilton is a little pricey, but they are the “nicest” hotel nearby — and they house the Raiders team (and sometimes their opponents) in a sequestered area of the hotel grounds. It isn’t at all uncommon to run into old Raiders greats — players and coaches — in the restaurant/s or bar area. Cheerleaders, too.
The Park Plaza is down the street from the Hilton…and it’s about 1/2 the price. Not nearly as large, but they also cater to fans. These, and most other hotels nearby (Holiday Inn Express, etc.) have game day shuttles to/from the game, and some have other events planned before/after.
The major problem is the area around the stadium…it’s hardly a tourist hangout, and not really conducive to long romantic walks with your other half. No matter what hotel you choose in the area, make sure they have a restaurant/bar on site…or you’ll be using your rent-a-car or taxis to get around.
Another tip: If you make any reservation for a “chain” hotel near the Oakland Coliseum, make sure you reiterate you want the Oakland Airport location. Otherwise, you may be booked a few miles away at a site different than what you wanted.
Also…the Raiders.com web site has a list of fan clubs…and a number of them (among my faves is the Vaca-Valley club) who love to host out-of-towners at tailgates.
Here are a few #’s that may help:
Oakland Park Plaza 800-635-5301
Oakland Airport Hilton 510-635-5000
July 6th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Gannon, Steve Young, Jeff garcia and a whole host of other white QB’s wuld’ve never been allowed to stay at that position if they were black. Not and make NFL money they would’ve been forced to earn it another way.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Hayes
All killer info for the guy, very nice of you. But personally if I had business in SF 2 days after the game then SF would make more sense. I wasn’t dissing on Oakland by any means, I was born in Oakland. Commuting to SF can be a bear as well, believe me. The after game traffic is nothing compared to the daily commute to SF from Oakland.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
HayesDaze37
click on my hyperlink
July 6th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
So were already working on our excuses for J Russell now? Sweet.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
That’s the reason I guess that I get frustrated when I hear Raider fans complaining about Russell.
When I look at Rusell in last years games and I see the raw talent and the gifts he has to play that position. If I were to see him for the first time I would do cartwheels over the fact that my team has a talent of his calibre at the most important position in sports. His skillset is off the charts. Sure you see the inexperience but the TALENT is unreal. All he needs is experience. Time to develope and talent around him to help him succeed.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
RaiderPA
If you haven’t been out of the country yourself, you might be a little more open-minded about other countries, that’s all. Europe is very nice.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Gannon would never have been allowed to do what he did at QB. He would’ve been a DB.
I personally think by midseason the NFL will realise that the Raiders have what IMO will be one of the most dominant talents at QB the league has ever seen. I’ve watched several games over from last year. You can see the talent coming to the fore. He just lacks the experience to be consistent.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith and Jeff George ALL had big time talent that measured off the charts. What they didnt have was the mental makeup to take advantage of said talent. Talent itself does not make a QB. Even if Russell had these mental skills, he is in an organization that has made a habit out of NOT cultivating talent into success.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Right on, Dogg — And…I’m only recommending the hotel close to the game for the reasons I mentioned…if I were the visitor from PA, I’d be in San Fran on Mon-Tues for sure.
(And not because I hate Oakland, KK!)
July 6th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
BHP
Amen brother. It amazes me the microscope that this kid is under.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Thank you very much Hayes and Dogg. I appreciate in the info. I should have added the qualifier that my girlfried is going with me as well… so I’m obligated to do something cultural with her while we’re there.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
HayesDaze37
I had the very distinct honor of spending some time talking with Lester Hayes a few years ago. He is an amazing person, he even let me try on his SB rings.
He was my favorite Raider as a kid and when I told him that he was honestly humbled. I was just happy he took the time to chat it up with me, we ended up talking for almost 30 minutes. Talking to him is like talking to a preacher, very powerful stuff. I remember when he had a speech impedemant, now he as eloquent as can be.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Point taken KK, I doubt if it would make a difference in my case, but I definitely see where you’re coming from.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
RaiderNationPA Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Thank you very much Hayes and Dogg. I appreciate in the info. I should have added the qualifier that my girlfried is going with me as well… so I’m obligated to do something cultural with her while we’re there.”
That will be taken care of at the Raiders game. Nothing but culture.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Hahaha
July 6th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Number 1 overall, getting paid like a king = under microscope. Lifes tough.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
HD
If I were visiting the Bay Area I’d stay In SF too. Take Bart to the game.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
How about we just have a party at KoolKell’s after the game, Alameda is very close.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Tough town for a tough team, with plenty of tough athletes
Bill Russell
Vada Pinson
Frank Robinson
Rickey Henderson
Jason Kidd
Clint Eastwood, (cowboy)
Joe Morgan
I’m sure I’m leaving out legends, but it’s Monday.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
RaiderNationPA
If you want the full Raider experience, head over to Everett & Jones BBQ after the game. They do some post game stuff there with George Atkinson and a Raider player or two will usually show up. The food is excellent as well, if you like BBQ.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Gary Payton
July 6th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
At least he hasn’t whined and cried like some others. He takes it in stride and just plays. So we’ll see….. He hasn’t begged his way off this team or told certain teams he doesn’t want to play for them.
Like the you know who’s…….that get away with it.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
BBQ sounds awesome
July 6th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
KK
check out this link:
http://armchairgm.wikia.com/Category:Athletes_Born_in_Oakland%2C_California
July 6th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
RaiderPA
If you haven’t been out of the country yourself, you might be a little more open-minded about other countries, that’s all. Europe is very nice.
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Wow, KK — About once a month I really agree with what you say. That was (by far) your best post of the year.
Just as LMN and Dakota throw around the stereotypes of each others’ respective country…there are a minority of people out here who have traveled to many parts of the world…and have had the great experiences that improve ones understanding of different cultures. Misinformed, naive — or even worse, intentionally naive — people seem to prevail, though.
And, man am I glad my family room alone is bigger than LMN’s apartment. And that I can own a firearm. And that I can choose to join my military (I did, btw) as opposed to being consigned into it. And…
July 6th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
I personally think by midseason the NFL will realise that the Raiders have what IMO will be one of the most dominant talents at QB the league has ever seen. I’ve watched several games over from last year. You can see the talent coming to the fore. He just lacks the experience to be consistent.
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Russell needs 4 things:
1. Consistancy with coaching staff
2. Experience reading defenses, and the audibles at
his disposal to change plays at the line if need
be…
3. A target besides Miller to make some plays down
field. (don’t expect the world from DHB until he
has a year or 2 under his belt) i.e., Schilens,
Higgins, and yes even Walker.
4. A defense that can stop the run and protect a
lead.
I have all of last season on my DVR, and have watched all of ‘em a sh*tload of times. The talent is there, it’s the simple cr*p we cant seem to get this kid. Cable seems to be on the right track with it until proven otherwise.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Dogg
I thought Curt Flood is from Oakland too
July 6th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
What doesn’t he seem to get?
July 6th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
“Born in Houston, Texas and raised in Oakland, California Flood played in the same high school outfield with Vada Pinson and Frank Robinson.”
He won Free Agency for baseball players.
It quite amazing how many influential people come out of Oakland.
John Lee Hooker
Sly & Family Stone
Tower of Power
July 6th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Well done AZ. Every year I delete the games from my DVR and every year at this time i kick myself bc NFL Network never shows Raiders Replays
July 6th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
RNPA — Dunno if you saw my post the other day, too? The Raiders web site also has #’s and email addresses for official fan clubs right in your area…they might have a trip planned, or members coming out, and if so they may also have a block of rooms reserved on the cheap.
KK’s right about taking Bart from S.F., too…and you gotta like the cattle-car to enjoy that. But, if you’re going to drive yourself to the game from S.F., it’s gonna be one loooong and exhausting day. No matter, the whole event will be memorable.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
KK
According to Wikipedia Curt Flood was born in Houston, TX but he was raised in Oakland. He played in the same high school outfield with Vada Pinson and Frank Robinson so I could see why you would think that.
Now I normally don’t quote Wiki, but this seems like pretty legit info.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
KK
You are quick on the draw my friend.
I love T.O.P. by the way. East Bay Grease!
July 6th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Thanks Hayes, I missed that post. There are alot of Raiders fans in Pittsburgh, but we’re not very organized.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
I dig John Lee Hooker as well, in fact John Lee Hooker Jr is pretty good as well.
Now that I think about it Sly was pretty damn good as well. You are right about Oakland.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Sly is actually from Vallejo KK.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
I shouldn’t say was, Sly is still kickin it.
Is he really from Vallejo? He and E-40…
July 6th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Rose, Larry and Freddy are from Oakland. I used to live around the corner from Larry Graham, Freddy Stone lived around the other corner.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Yeah he moved to SF from Vallejo where he worked for KSOL as a DJ.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
I’m out for the day. Good chatting wih you all.
Have a good night.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Larry Graham is from Oakland, Rose and Freddy grew up in the same household as SLY, Sly is the eldest of the three.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
I’m out too. Thanks for the help!
July 6th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
IT’s Freddy Stewart and Sylvester Stewart, the name Sly was a mistake by a classmate in middleschool who was dislexic. He spelled Syl wrong and the continued to call him Sly from then on.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Priesttj
I lived on Cliffland Dr, Freddy lived on Aberfoil, Larry lived on the corner of Caloden & Malcolm. As Adults, ok?
July 6th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
And Art Shell lived on Scotia, by the Chabot Golf Course, which is still run by Ray Chester, if I’m not mistaken.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
And Art Shell lived on Scotia, by the Chabot Golf Course, which is still run by Ray Chester, if I’m not mistaken.
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My mistake Art Lived on Sun Valley Dr.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
OK, KK I thought the discussion was where they grew up and are originally from.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
In the mid-1960s, Sly worked as a DJ for San Francisco, California radio station KSOL and later for Oakland, California radio station KDIA and also as a record producer for Autumn Records, working with such bands in the San Francisco area as The Beau Brummels, The Mojo Men, and The Great Society. Adopting the stage name “Sly Stone,” he then formed “The Stoners” in 1966 which included Cynthia Robinson on trumpet. Robinson went on to join Sly & the Family Stone as well, when it was formed at the end of 1966. Freddie Stone (guitar and vocals), Larry Graham (bass guitar and vocals), Greg Errico (drums), Jerry Martini (saxophone) Sly himself played guitar, piano, and harmonica, among other instruments, for the band’s records and performances. On the first recordings Little Sister: Vet Stone, Mary McCreary, and Elva Mouton did backup vocals. In 1968 sister Rosie Stone (piano and vocals) joined the band.
Sly Stone was influential in guiding KSOL-AM into soul music and started calling the station K-SOUL. The second was a popular soul music station (sans the K-SOUL moniker), at 107.7 FM (now known as KSAN). The current KSOL has a different format and is unrelated to the previous two stations.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
In San Francisco, the young guitarist got the chance to see his idols, most notably King, perform live. He was also introduced to a variety of new musical influences, including jazz, world music, and folk music, and witnessed the growing hippie movement centered in San Francisco in the 1960s. After several years spent working as a dishwasher in a diner and busking for spare change on the streets, Santana decided to become a full-time musician; in 1966, he formed the Santana Blues Band, with fellow street musicians David Brown and Gregg Rolie (bassist and keyboard player, respectively).[2]
With their highly original blend of Latin-infused rock, jazz, blues, salsa, and African rhythms, the band (which quickly became known simply as Santana) gained an immediate following on the San Francisco club scene. The band’s early success, capped off by a memorable performance at Woodstock in 1969, led to a recording contract with Columbia Records, then run by Clive Davis.
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The Music scene in the Bay Area was unbelievable in those days
July 6th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Larry’s style on bass grew from when he played bass for his mother’s show he would simulate the drums (they didn’t have a drummer) with his bass by thumping the bass and the style was born which many bassist use to this day. And Sly used it in the band which gave them a very distinct sound never before heard.
Sly then learned it and solo’d it in the LP “There’s a Riot goin’ on” which pissed of Larry. Resulting in differences that eventually led to his leaving the band. One of the great bands in American Music history.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
HD37…
I totally agree…. Im only throwing stereotypes because dakotas needle is stuck in same groove…
i have been to 22 or 28 countries (lost count), and I love traveling… I love France and spain, never been to the US, mostly because it cost so much and im sure i will love it, so its a precaution to not going to ruin my own economy =)
My favorite cities are Arles in France, Savilla in Spain and Istanbul in Turkey… I love architecture and history and those cities have tons to offer…
Most interesting here was bombed away by a terrorist attact by the british in 1807, so we havent much to offer….
we have a draft here, and I like that, but everybody is free to join if they want to, and no-one will have to go to war if the dont want to, they just have to quit their job…
Im glad your house is big, I dont need much more than i have, 4 rooms, kitchen and bathroom is enough for me.. 110m2 is alright when you live in the city…(i dont know what that amounts to in sq-feet)
July 6th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
I went to school with Willie Sparks, Ted Sparks and Hershell Happiness of Graham Central Station.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
KK, those were the DAMN DAYS, my friend the music was sooo incredible, the bands were sooo phenmenal. The music that came out of the Bay Area at that time changed the way American Music was played to this day. The Tower of Power horn section was epic. Santana’s Afro Cuban enfluences started a change in music even Miles Davis to the Temptations had to change styles to keep up. James Brown and Jimi Hendrix too.
July 6th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Apparently it is…
Result: 110 m2 = 1184.03 ft2
July 6th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
I was very deep involved in the music industry at the time and met several people including Larry Graham and Chocolat Banks. I did stuff with Miles and Freddy Hubbard. My niche was actually Jazz. I spent a lot of time with Tower of Power when Eddie Magee was lead singer as a stage hand. I booked a few shows for them as well. One with James Brown as the headline act.
July 6th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
The Europeans and Scandinavians pay more Taxes, but they get more for them. Like Healthcare & Good Schools. I know people right here in Alameda, not Oakland mind you, who spend 20K & up to send their kids to private elementary school.
July 6th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
LMN
I’ve been to
Japan
Korea
Taiwan
Phillippines
Hong Kong
Singapore
Thailand
Malaysia
Indonesia
Australia
Norway
Sweden
Holland
United Kingdom
France
Switzerland
Tanzania
Kenya.
July 6th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Damn KK, are you tired????
July 6th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
I have a friend in Oakland paying 700 – 1,000 a month for one student. But he was raised that way as well.
July 6th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
I got the travel bug while I was in the Navy. I was stationed in Japan for 5 years. Now Im married to a Swiss woman.
My first time in Switzerland, we stayed maybe 2 weeks. And when we landed at SFO, I noticed how run down it looked in comparison. Bad roads, rundown cars etc. It was a eye-opener. But people who have never been outside the country don’t get that perspective, and just reflexivly chant USA USA USA. That’s cool, but we could learn some things too.
July 6th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
I’ve never been outside the country but my wife and kids have. I have a fear of flying. But I used t talk to Jazz musician who as you may know make more money abroad than in the US. They say the same things that they are treated better elsewhaere than they are here. But that was 20-30 years ago, most are dead now. I remember when Dizzy said he played in Kuwait when they were bombing. But remember those countries are much older than we are they have a much better perspective on things. In this country the peple in power are the only nes that have ever been in power we”ve never experienced a coup or revolution where another people have risen to power.
So they know what it means for the shoe to be on the other foot.
July 6th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
And for that foot to be doing all the ass kickin’.
July 6th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Priesttj,
Excellent posts on the black QB. Excellent and well-reasoned.
Also agree with you 100% on JaMarcus Russell this year. The guy is building and learning what is the most difficult position under some trying circumstances. He doesn’t complain or cry and complain. Just goes about his job.
He will be fine.
I wish I could agree with you about the run defense…..I’ll save that until after camp.
July 6th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
SnB, go back and watch the first SD game and watch the defense exclusively. If you ssee that on coaches tape you’d see even more so how dominant this defense can be. As a matter of fact Phil Simms states late in the game if only this defense had a reliable offense to g with it they would be fun to watch. We suffocated the run game of SD. Same as when we played the Bills. But late in the game they wore down. The offense had ONE YARD in the 3rd qrtr. By the 4th qrtr the defense was spent. Sands was DOMINANT in that game.
The DT’s on several occasions during the season were unblockable. They weren’t consistent but that IMO was due in most cases to the lack of support from an anemic offense.
You’ll see this year, I can almost gaurantee this defense will be a top ten defense if the offense is competent.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Priesttj,
As for the run defense. I am waiting to see what John Marshall is going to do and what the competition is going to look like in camp.
To me its also about toughness and setting the tempo on defense. I need to see more energy out there. Seems to me like a passive defense the last few years.
The Raiders need another “star” to step up. Like Nnamdi is a force…the defense needs one or two more guys to become game changers on the field. Maybe its Greg Ellis….Tyvon Branch or Mike Mitchell…Chris Johnson? Preferably it would be Morrison, Howard or one of the DTs.
Let’s see what John Marshall is going to do.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
SnB, 2 years ago we were top half of the league vs the run right?
everybody said it was a fluke but we haven’t had a QB in 6 years. That IMHO has more to do with how we stop the run and play defense than any one thing. Now we could be better overall with more discipline and gap control.
But I read where you said our run defense was soft. I think that is an oversimplification of some facts. We get out of gaps which is a discipline problem. This defense if you study it is talented but tends to overextend at times. I really like our LBers contrary to popular opinion. They aren’t great but they are talented enough to win. We are in need more of attitude and aggressiveness. Which is very hard to quantify but I think you know what I mean. The players are there.
July 6th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
priest when will we get our next matt millen a guy who is mean and dominant his rookie year man watching the stories of the 76,80,83 SB had me damn near in tears when playing the Raider way meant something oh George Atkinson could we use some of you’re attitude and toughness please let Branch and Mitchell play this way.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
# Silver-n-Black666 Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
RaiderNationPA
If you have any Nads stay on 98th St in Oakland.
^^^^
Been down in 98th before…..had a friend who used to buy his pot over there…..until he got cold clocked from behind and robbed. He is lucky he didn’t get killed….
July 6th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
# RaiderNationPA Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
LMN,
You pay your government to buy healthcare for all. I’d rather pay for my own. And if the US ever went to gov provided healthcare the whole world would be screwed bc we subsidize 80% of the R&D costs of your healthcare.
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thats just because everything run by americans goes down the drain, you have proved that several times…
here we dont BUY health care, its RUN by the state…
funny thing is, all that you celebrate in your declaration of independence and bill of rights, is not much worth when all you think is about is “mine” “mine”, “mine”….. your founding fathers would probably be ashamed…
^^^^^^
Capitalisim run amok!
July 7th, 2009 at 2:21 am
As an American living in Denmark, you can’t compare the 2 countries. Totally different focus and culture.
I really like living in Denmark, of course there are things that are better in the U.S., like friendly people, politeness on the street, a caring attitude towards strangers,fewer unspoken social rules that constrict personal behavior etc.
As far as the way of life is concerned, Denmark is great because there is so much less poverty and actually less violence and intimidation on the street, although Dakota’s stats show the murder is almost as high. You just don’t have the CREEPS in Denmark that prey on the weak in the same way.
I loved my life in the U.S. because I was afluent from a family with a lot of money. If I grew up poor in the U.S. it would have sucked.
Dakota. You have to understand the Danish mentality. They hate on all other nations, Sweden, the U.S., the muslims, anybody who is not Danish. They just love to point out faults of others, also within their own society. They like to make others feel less than if they deviate from the norm. That’s why so many of them take medication for their depression (even though they claim to be the happiest people on earth). And don’t forget, about 25% of the young girls here in Denmark are cutters!
It’s all about criticizing people and cutting them down to size.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:37 am
In reality, it’s always about comparing. I was taught at a young age…”be youself, never compare, because there will always be somebody better than you in some area, the guy with the bigger car, the better wife, more money etc.”. In America you focus on who you are, in Denmark you always compare and try to keep everything equal and cut people down to size when they get to big.
This is the major difference in mentality. In the US you learn that you have to be ok with who you are even if you’re a janitor. You’re going to be the best janitor you can be for your self respect, because nobody is going to give it to you. That’s what drive is about and that is the greatness of America.
Both countries could learn from each other. Americans could learn to pay more taxes and help the poor while creating fair health care for all people, and Danes could learn to be more free and less judgemental.
I saw Kool Kell’s comments on racism in the US as opposed to Europe. The Europeans are just as racist as soon as you’re not a visitor and you actually live in their country.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:31 am
—”This is the major difference in mentality. In the US you learn that you have to be ok with who you are even if you’re a janitor. You’re going to be the best janitor you can be for your self respect, because nobody is going to give it to you. That’s what drive is about and that is the greatness of America.”—
thats a load of bull, you can be the best person but if you are “only” a janitor, you count shyt… if you beat your children but make the amount of money oprah does, then you are an american hero…. a persons quality is valued on how much or how little money they have….
I still dont get why you are here, you apparently dont like anything about us, I say all you say is based because you live in the projects and never meat and ordinary dane….
July 7th, 2009 at 5:59 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, AM-CREW…
July 7th, 2009 at 5:59 am
I read all the worries about JaMarcus but our biggest concern has to be whether we can stop the run. Our own running game is strong enough to keep us competitive and Miller and Schilens will add some variety. All that will be wasted if we can’t stop the run – especially as almost all our 2009 opponents have a strong running game. Defense is the key.
Did any of you read the PFT report on us shopping Sands?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/03/raiders-shopping-terdell-sands/
Any truth? I hear that Kelly looked sharp in the OTAs but Sands is our biggest roadblock.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:04 am
good morning Dirt Lot, LMN, Scottish …
July 7th, 2009 at 6:12 am
GOOD POST SCOTTISH RAIDER,BALL CONTROL ON THE RAIDER’S PART WILL BE THE KEY IMO .3 AND OUT’S , AND / OR SINGLE 1ST DOWN POSSESION’S TAKING 1:30 OFF THE GAME-CLOCK CAN NOT HAPPEN AS OFTEN AS B4.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:15 am
HEY ROCKSTAR..
July 7th, 2009 at 6:19 am
My comment is awaiting moderation …
what the smell?
July 7th, 2009 at 6:20 am
Absolutely. The key to next season is defense. If we can control the clock and field position, then we can run often enough to win matches. If we don’t control the clock or field position, then we are going to have to rely on JR and very inexperienced WR crew – not a comforting thought.
If Sands is toast, that leaves us with Kelly, Warren, Thomas and Boschetti. Is that quartet good enough? Can we blame Rob Ryan for everything?
July 7th, 2009 at 6:21 am
What’s up fellas how bad must turd sands look that their trying to get rid of him allready
July 7th, 2009 at 6:24 am
NMF – Al just might have wanted to avoid paying Sands his next signing bonus. But it don’t look good when you are trying to shop your biggest DT before camp has even started. Especially with no decent DTs still available under FA.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:25 am
FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. — Former Jacksonville Jaguars wide receiver Matt Jones has completed his stint in drug court.
Jones was arrested in 2008 on suspicion of cocaine possession and, as part of a plea agreement, was ordered to participate in NFL-sponsored substance-abuse counseling and undergo random drug testing through the end of the football season.
The Jaguars released Jones, their 2005 first-round draft pick, in March after he failed a drug and alcohol test. Jones said at the time that he’d had beers while golfing with friends.
Jones, who played quarterback at the University of Arkansas, “graduated” from Washington County Drug Court on Monday, and his felony cocaine possession charge was dismissed.
Jones said he has learned from his mistakes and that he hopes an NFL team will make him an offer to play in 2009.
Jones set career highs last season in receptions (65) and yards (761) in just 12 games. He also scored two touchdowns.
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should we be interested in this guy? You know Al Davis isn’t afraid to take a chance on players who come to Oakland with baggage … might make for good competition in training camp, especially since half of the WR’s on the roster are injured!
July 7th, 2009 at 6:26 am
Morning Nation,
Man I thought I was on one yesterday looks like LMN & D-Train went stupiddoodoodumb yesterday!!!!!LOL
PFSFT!!!!!! To Frye backing up Russell Garcia makes the team!!!
PFSFT!!!!! TO health care in genral IT SUX EVERYWHERE!!!
RAIDERS WILL BE .500 OR BETTER
Here’s to the Smokescreens!!! 4-3/3-4 “were not changing much in scheme” LOL @ THAT!!!!!
Heres to carring as many LB’s as it takes to ge the job done!!!!
Here’s to Frantz!!!!!
The Euro, Free enterprise, the 2nd Amendment, ALL THE HATERS, TROLLS, And A Defensive tackle playing a major roll in our DEFENSE this year!!!!
PLAYOFFBOND!!!!!!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 6:28 am
THAT IS WHY I THINK THE RAIDER’S ARE A YEAR AWAY.EVERYONE,INCLUDING THE TEAM IS UNSURE OF JUST HOW GOOD THEY CAN BE,THIS TEAM END’S UP 8-8 OR BETTER, LOOK OUT..
July 7th, 2009 at 6:30 am
should we be interested in this guy? You know Al Davis isn’t afraid to take a chance on players who come to Oakland with baggage … might make for good competition in training camp, especially since half of the WR’s on the roster are injured!
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YeS!!!! Maybe he could get Jamarcus hooked on c0c@anie so all the people that hate on his whieght would have nothin to say!!!! Hell maybe even DHB has a CD case they could use!!!
lol I like Matt Jones and he’s a big target!! Competion brings out the best…I would love to see him push Javon or Shields to stay on the field!!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 6:31 am
good morning, RRS, Dirtlot and scottish…
July 7th, 2009 at 6:31 am
moderator: what’s wrong with my post at 6:17am?
no foul language or insults! just raider football
should I have posted “go lakers!” at the bottom of it, to make it more appropriate ???
July 7th, 2009 at 6:32 am
Have to disagree this morning Gents!
Without question the key to next season is the offense. You can’t win in this game without putting points on the board. Too many games last year involved NO hope of a victory because of our offense. How many games did we go without sniffing the endzone in the first quarter? How many times did we have 7 pts or less going into halftime? 10 pts or less going into the 4th qtr? The cry for a dominant defense by a lot of you is really a result of you knowing we don’t put points on the board.
The key to this season is Cable opening up the offense and using the weapons we have on offense to put points on the board. If we try to just run the ball, and rely on our defense to win games, we aren’t going to be very good.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:32 am
# La Milicia Negra Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 6:31 am
good morning, RRS, Dirtlot and scottish…
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NMF and OAKlifer as well
July 7th, 2009 at 6:32 am
good morning NMF, OAKlifer …
July 7th, 2009 at 6:33 am
Matt Jones is big enough (6′6″) but he hasn’t got great hands and his appetite for the physical stuff has been questioned. He had one good season for the Jags, just not sure we are needy enough for him….yet.
Love his nick name ‘Coke Zero’.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:33 am
YeS!!!! Maybe he could get Jamarcus hooked on c0c@anie so all the people that hate on his whieght would have nothin to say!!!! Hell maybe even DHB has a CD case they could use!!!
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LOL. maybe Sands too!
July 7th, 2009 at 6:35 am
I’d stay away from Matt Jones …
What type of teammate would he be as the #4 or #5 WR?
July 7th, 2009 at 6:37 am
L M N, U OK MAN ? GOOD MORNING ALL.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:40 am
The key to this season is Cable opening up the offense and using the weapons we have on offense to put points on the board. If we try to just run the ball, and rely on our defense to win games, we aren’t going to be very good.
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good morning Jhill. I agree (unless we’re talking about that clown MJ)
Al Davis has been drafting offense for years and neglecting the defense. If we rely to heavily on a patchwork defense, we’re setting ourselves up for failure. We didn’t draft Russell to be a game manager, we drafted him to be a difference maker! If we only throw the football 10-15 times a game, that is a waste of money and time spent on Russell, Garcia would be the better fit. I don’t think this is the plan though. I posted the stats from last season and we really did have a balanced offense as far as passing & rushing attempts. the passing attack just didn’t hold up their end of the bargain (insert blame here)
July 7th, 2009 at 6:44 am
Morning Double R, LMN
What’s up J-hill,
I agree man how can a defense be up to playing in the fourth Q when we have 7 – 10 pts on the board……pffffssst!!!!!!
Here’s to Cable being competent enought to run this high powered offense we have in place!!!
Here’s to Marshall!!!!
Here’s to someone stepping up BIG TIME on defense this year…..preferably a saftey or lineman but would be happy with anybody!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 6:46 am
What type of teammate would he be as the #4 or #5 WR?
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Matt Jones will be lucky to find a team that gives him a legit chance for playing time. He’s not going to be picky or choosy – he’ll be thankful for the opportunity and try to show that he belongs in the NFL and can be a possession WR that a team like the Raiders could use
Walker, DHB & Shields are injured. Even Schilens & Murphy got nicked up in OTA’s (no contact)
Matt Jones is more talented than Holland, Watkins, Parker, Franklin and the 2 undrafted rookies we brought in …
July 7th, 2009 at 6:48 am
How can you not respect a guy like Jeff Fisher?
Just saw his press conference on McNair. Stand up guy. Just a sad, sad situation. So much craziness going on these days.
I’m sorry, but this just doesn’t make sense. McNair meets his girlfriend at 2 in the morning to dump her? Yeah right! 2am is meeting up to phuccck! He’s dumping her b/c the DUI arrest is going to bring their relation ship to light? Yeah, like the Escalade he bought her and put in both his names wouldn’t get out? The hanging out in public on vacations wouldn’t get out?
This just doesn’t make sense man.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:49 am
And I think Will Franklin could be a steal. He is almost as quick as DHB.
If we are taking six WRs, my roster is probably:
1) Schilens
2) Higgins
3) Heywood-Bey
4) Murphy
5) Walker
6) Franklin.
I am assuming that Shields won’t pass the physical. If Walker isn’t of sound mind, we might keep Samie Parker. That means goodbye to Holland and Watkins. Either Nick Miller or Shawn Bayes will get a practice squad spot.
Plaxico anyone?
July 7th, 2009 at 6:49 am
Here’s to someone stepping up BIG TIME on defense this year…..preferably a saftey or lineman but would be happy with anybody!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!
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Tommy Kelly & Michael Huff to the Pro Bowl. Raiders finish 10-6 with a run defense ranked 18th in the league. Playoffs, baby!
July 7th, 2009 at 6:50 am
Morning fellas!
July 7th, 2009 at 6:51 am
You know you’re blogging from Staples Center RRS!
Don’t front!
LOL!
July 7th, 2009 at 6:54 am
Einstien’s attempts at guessing Dakota’s occupation were hilarious!
Pawn shop owner … LMFAO!
July 7th, 2009 at 6:55 am
Plaxico anyone?
is he in jail or finished healing from that gun shot wound to his leg????? lol
If he were healed and clear of legal woes he could be a nice pick up…..
July 7th, 2009 at 6:55 am
And I think Will Franklin could be a steal.
Plaxico anyone?
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Plax will go to a team that finished with a winning record last year, at least 8-8. That’s if he isn’t facing an NFL suspension …
Franklin got dumped by both the Chiefs & Lions, who are looking for a decent WR to play opposite Dwayne Bowe and Calvin Johnson. I think Jonathan Holland will be the 6th WR unless Arman Shields gets healthy and looks good in training camp. Holland has been impressive this offseason and I think his biggest challenger is Todd Watkins
July 7th, 2009 at 6:57 am
I hear they have been working Huff back at his old SS spot – getting him back to marking the TE. He wasn’t being called a bust after his rookie season – perhaps Art Shell knew something after all when he said Huff was drafted to counter Gonzalez and Gates.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:02 am
Holland always looks good in June/July and very average in August/September. They don’t trust Watkins – for whatever reason. I admit that Franklin is a longshot but he ran a 4.37 at the combine and did a 40 1\2 vertical. Quick and springy!
July 7th, 2009 at 7:08 am
The pawn shop is open! I’ll give you $50 for that 42″ flat screen…
July 7th, 2009 at 7:10 am
Jhill, yeah fischer is ALL class
July 7th, 2009 at 7:13 am
Holland always looks good in June/July and very average in August/September. They don’t trust Watkins – for whatever reason.
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Scottish: I mean no disrespect, but where do you come up with this stuff? I’ve never read ANYTHING remotely close to what you’ve just laid out
I’m not a Franklin hater. He could be the guy. Watkins wasn’t even good enough for a practice squad spot in Atlanta and Arizona. Holland was a 7th round pick that spent his rookie season on IR. For whatever reason (Cable perhaps?), Jerry Mac & David White both say these cats are impressive
July 7th, 2009 at 7:16 am
I’ll eliminate Correctional Officer, Probation Officer, Sheriff, Judge, Lawyer, or any job like that for Dakota. Too much free time.
Hmmmmm?!?!?!?
July 7th, 2009 at 7:18 am
I’m going to assume you are not blogging from a laptop, or from home b/c we would see you more in the PM.
Must be in an office.
Hmmmmm?!?!?!?!
July 7th, 2009 at 7:18 am
Jhill,
Give up…you’ll never guess…and even if you did, I wouldn’t tell you, lol.
What do you think of Ariza possibly backing out of the Houston deal and going to the Cavs? I wonder if Houston will then offer Artest a bunch of money?
July 7th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Works in an office setting that brings you in contact with the lowliest of lowlifes …..
Hmmmmm?!?!??!
July 7th, 2009 at 7:21 am
Maybe a pay day loan office Jhill? lol
July 7th, 2009 at 7:22 am
LOL!
You want me to give up after I’ve narrowed it down to what, a possible 35,000 jobs?
I think I’m on the right track, LOL!
July 7th, 2009 at 7:23 am
Maybe I run an abortion clinic?
July 7th, 2009 at 7:24 am
Right! LMFAO!
I was thinking Liquor Store cashier!
July 7th, 2009 at 7:25 am
Awwwww!
That was wrong. Damn you can hit low. And it comes out of nowhere.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:25 am
I see Dakota as Military Police or a Bounty Hunter.
Ever see that South Park episode where Cartman was dog the bounty hunter and he had his own beth but you couldn’t see her face, all you saw where these humongous breasts sticking out.
That was great episode!
Did you guys see we were trying to trade Turd Sands on July 1st?
July 7th, 2009 at 7:26 am
Maybe Jerry pays me to keep the comment numbers high during the day?
July 7th, 2009 at 7:26 am
Judging by “the letter” that “Dakota” Posted about a certain “bobby” from a certain “doctor” I would have to say he is bobby’s PSYCH!!!!!!!!!!!! Dakota PLEASE copy and paste that if you indeed saved it to your “work” computer!!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 7:27 am
Jhill
“the key to next season is the offense”
You got that right.
Just look at the numbers….
The Raiders averaged 8.3 points scored after 3 quarters in their 11 losses.
Think about it, 8 points after 3 quarters!.
How many games can you expect to win when you have 8 points on the board entering the 4th quarter?.
Jeez, how many NFL games you get to see where a given team is limited to 8 points after 3?.
To expect the defense to hold up under that kind of pressure is not even fair, it also means that if you are still in the game at that point, you have to play safe to keep it close because one big play for 7 and the game is over.
But what about the 5 Raider wins?.
Well, the Raiders offense averaged 16.2 points after 3 quarters during those 5 wins.
It’s not as simple as pointing out numbers, but our lack of scoring was definitely the major reason we struggled again last year, and the previous 2 seasons.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:28 am
I he pays you more than me ima b pi$$ed he told me that there was only one paid blogger!!!!!WTF uncle Jerry?!?!?!!??!?
July 7th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Ariza is old news!
Thanks for last year, but it’s all about the Artest and Kobe show next year.
How would you feel about trading LO to Washington for Mike Miller and that young C they have. I forgot his name, but his Mom was a baller.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:25 am
I see Dakota as Military Police
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he have to serve to be a MP, remember he cowarded out…
July 7th, 2009 at 7:29 am
When I was in 8th grade I wrote an essay on my perfect job.
Chief Examiner at the breast examination clinic.
I wanted to be upper management (Chief Examiner) so I could chose my patients and not have to feel up 60 year old ladies all day.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:30 am
well good day Mr. Marley….
IRON ZION!!!!!!! the more we smoke the more babaylon falls………
July 7th, 2009 at 7:30 am
man im glad i stayed home to see the time trials, this is going to be a thriller….
July 7th, 2009 at 7:35 am
And Will Franklin would not be the first guy to bounce around a couple of teams before he becomes a player, not too many 6′0 209 guys who can run a 4.37 out there.
We’ll see.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:38 am
8.3 points after 3 quarters in 11 games!
11 games folks!
We shouldn’t talking about anything but the upgrade at LT that will aleviate the false starts. No more 1st and 15s, 3rd and 11s, or penalties from our LT on a TD. Too many times that specific position put us in a hole. Mario Henderson HAS to put his stamp on that position.
Secondly, We HAVE to incorporate the WRs into our offense. We need an offense that give our starting WRs the chance to catch 50 balls or so a piece. Our WRs will face A LOT of zone coverage this year b/c no one will want to turn their backs on DMac. With the speed of our WRs, our OC, errr PGC should be able to get those guys to open spaces. Unless of course Cable calls 30 running plays again.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:38 am
Dakota
Congrats on the baby thing, best of luck with everything.
Later.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:39 am
Have to disagree with you all on the offense vs. defense.
The Raiders lost a good three games with leads going into the last 5 or 6 minutes of the game. In the case of S.D and Buffalo, they had two score leads. Miami, they had the lead with less than 2 minutes. The defense couldn’t make a stop when it mattered.
In other games like New Orleans, Atlanta, Denver (1), S.D (2) and New England….the defense offered no resistance from start to finish.
Make no mistake…the offense struggled at times. But to me, that had more to do with a conservative coaching mindset and STUPID personnel decisions.
Defense is always supposed to be ahead of the offense. Especially when that offense is relatively young. Baltimore, Atlanta and Pittsburgh’s defense plays strong enough so that the offense can stay in their respective game plans while the team is developing.
I always say its the defense first. If the defense keeps the opponent under 20 points…the Raiders will be in great shape.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:48 am
If the defense keeps the opponent under 20 points…the Raiders will be in great shape ….
under 20 points? You mean under 10?!?!?!
Your point hints at the Raiders being able to put up at least 20 pts a game consistantly. If that 8.3 pts through 3 qtr issue has been resolved, then yeah I guess it is time to talk about the defense.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:51 am
if Mario Henderson was the Left Tackle from week 1…If the Raiders just went ahead and started Schilens and JLH from week 1…if the Raiders just decided that DMAC and Bush are the primary runners from week 1….if the coaches threw the ball more, instead of run left, run right, throw, punt…..
That offense would have been much better than what you all saw last year…much better…and that team would have finished 7-9 to 9-7 last year.
Offensive playcalling and personnel sets were TERRIBLE! The main reason why I have still not 100% bought into Tom Cable yet. You have to go out and throw the football and run the ball with your best players.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:51 am
I always say its the defense first.
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big surprise, SnB DEFENSE!
LOL
Defense is ahead of the offense in OTA’s and training camp. Then when they face tougher competition they fold like a tent!
July 7th, 2009 at 7:57 am
To the point of losing games in the last 5 mins of the 4th qtr, we have talked about that and I thought agreed that it was due to fatigue. Our defense would hold up in most games through 3 qtrs, and give it up at the end. True enough. But the counter to that is more offense, and the defense won’t be so tired in the 4th qtr.
New Orleans was a perfect example of how to beat our defense. Attack our DEs and LBs with quick screens and simple pass plays to the RB, and TE. We were never in that game once Brees just threw out the playbook and went with that.
Same thing happened in that San Diego game. Sproles, Sproles, and more Sproles.
NE? Same thing but with Welker. Since we never adjusted with more DBs and kept Morrison and Howard on the field, we got carved up.
I say it was bad coaching and stupid personnel decisions that had the players very unsure of the gameplan.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:59 am
JHill,
The team last year had a rookie QB and no receivers for most of the year. The defense HAD to carry the load and win games. The ceiling that the team could meet last year was 7-9 to 8-8. That was the ceiling….similiar to this year.
The Raiders were up by 9pts with 5 minutes left against Buffalo. What happened?
Up by 2 points against Miami with a minute left
GAve up 25 points to S.D in the 4th QTR despite a double digit lead
All I am saying is that the defense rarely made any plays when it mattered…except one game…the Jets game and the Carolina game. All the rest, they either got bull rushed from the start or collapsed in the 4th QTR.
The game is 4 QTRs long…not 3…not 2.5 QTR but 4. The Defense melted too many times when it mattered.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:01 am
If Rob Ryan would have lined up his DTs correctly instead of expirimenting with Warren and Sands directly over the C, then we might have had a more balanced line, and easier gaps to recognize and fill.
Maybe if Ryan decided to use Howard or Alstons speed to attack the QB from time to time, we may have had more pressure.
Maybe if we had two safeties deep instead of one then …
Nevermind.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:03 am
JHill,
Fatigue might have played a role. But methinks it had more to do with Rob Ryan’s passive playcalling and the inability of the front 4 to put pressure on the QB in obvious passing downs.
Bottom line….if the defense has the type of leads the Raiders had in those couple of games….they needed to reach out and take the game and win it.
They didn’t do that. 25 points in the 4th QTR? 9 Point lead with 5 minutes left?
July 7th, 2009 at 8:05 am
LMN, do you really want to start it all up again?
July 7th, 2009 at 8:05 am
JHill,
I agree that the offense has to contribute more. But with a 1st year starter, middling receivers and Tom Cable’s personnel decisions….the defense had to step it up and steal a couple of wins.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:07 am
I say it was bad coaching and stupid personnel decisions that had the players very unsure of the gameplan.
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Agreed. Kelly & Warren both battled injuries last year and we kept Wakefield instead of Joseph as the 4th DT in the rotation. Burgess battled injuries (again). Kalimba Edwards & Ricky Brown did too. CJ didn’t get to start until mid season. Huff was benched for Hiram frickin’ Eugene.
Injuries, defensive personnel decisions and defensive playcalling also hurt the defense. not just the players on the field …
If you include Nnamdi we had 6 of 11 defensive starters hurt at some point last year, including all 4 starters on the D-Line.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Jhill…I think Miller is great…he is from South Dakota, but he doesn’t play much D. I think I’d rather keep LO as the super-backup for Artest and Gasol.
Bob,
Thanks!
July 7th, 2009 at 8:07 am
I admire the optimism that a new season always brings and we do have some real positives.
We are bringing in hard working character guys.
Cable is real because his passion is real. Players respect that over a guy just trying to please the boss and manage his career.
We have a plan that is designed to build from the outside in with skill guys.
The plan part about that last statement is good. The “outside in” part takes longer.
The Raiders legacy is based upon the greatest offensive lines in the history of the game. Guys like Siani, Van Eeghan, Hubbard, Banazak, Bob Chandler, Charlie Smith, Kenny King etc were dedicated performers with average NFL ability. The Raider Oline made rather pedestrian players very good and dramtically improved the Raider defense because the Raiders offense usually controlled the game.
Our Oline is the heart of the team and will determine our success this season.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Kirk Morrison missed the tackle on Lynch at their own 5 yard line on 3rd and 8 or so in that Buffalo game, or we win.
Don’t recall the Miami game specifics, but we kept them under 20 pts, right? More offense!
That SD game was an offensive melt down, to me. JRuss fumble was HUGE! That was a “here we go again” game. If we had ANY type of offense, SD wouldn’t have had a chance to score 25 pts.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:09 am
Hopefully Al Davis will allow John Marshall to own his defensive game plan.
Davis has a big affinity to pass defense and pass coverage. His roster is mostly full of fleet of foot players that are not known for being physical. He instructs the front 4 to do it by themselves.
He has to let Marshall put the pieces together in his own way.
Was Rob Ryan partly to blame? Sure…but lets remember…he was a 3-4 guys from the New England school…
Davis has to let Marshall manage the defense without having to be worried about justifying every playcall
July 7th, 2009 at 8:10 am
ujjjjjj, Mr Doping might end up ind yellow today
July 7th, 2009 at 8:10 am
Oaklifer, you mean this one?:
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TO: jmcdonald@bayareanewsgroup.com
FROM: DR. John Walker, DO, MD, IMG-Alameda, California
Dear Mr. McDonald,
It has come to my attention that one of my patients, known to you as N0rco Bob, has been banned from posting comments on your Inside the Oakland Raiders blog.
Mr. N0rco Bob suffers from a wide variety of psychotic disorders, ranging from Delusional Disorder-Grandiose Type, which causes him to have an inflated sense of self worth, to Dependant Personality Disorder characterized by an over-reliance on others that leads to submissive and clinging behavior and fears of separation.
As of right now, Mr. N0rco Bob’s Delusional Disorder-Grandiose Type is dominant, however, it is my professional opinion that if you ban him from posting his delusional comments about his relationship with the Oakland Raiders on your blog you could push his Dependant Personality Disorder to the forefront, causing him to, perhaps, do harm to himself or others. He also suffers from a mild form of Panic Disorder that in combination with his feelings of separation from your blog may cause him to have a sudden onset of heart palpitations, chest pain, choking sensations, dizziness, and feelings of unreality.
As his treating MD I request that you lift the ban from Mr. N0rco Bob, both for his safety and the safety of others. Mr. N0rco Bob is one of the saddest cases I have run across in my 30 plus years of practice in the field of psychiatrics. Years of research and studies may be ruined by your actions.
Yours Truly,
Dr. John Walker, DO, MD, IMG-Alameda, California
July 7th, 2009 at 8:14 am
JHill,
Kirk Morrison is part of the defense. He has to play better. I remember the defense getting rolled on a 98 yard 15+play drive in the 3rd QTR. They couldn’t get themselves off the field. Then let Edwards turn into John Elway’s 2nd reinactment of the drive and just move the ball at will.
Miami game…the Raiders were at the Miami 4 yard line and Kwame Harris had a holding penalty or offsides…followed by a sack to DMAC on some wildcat stuff…ended up being a field goal and the difference in the game. Remember when HArris got pulled for Henderson in the 4th QTR.
San Diego game…same thing…touchdown run by Bush…negated by Cornell Green holding…settle for a field goal…difference between 15-0 and 19-0….big difference for the game.
So I agree with you that the offense has to get better. But the defense CANNOT blow double digit leads in the 4th QTR. Just can’t have that.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:17 am
SnB,
I think you really undervalue the morale factor on defense. You can’t tell me that a defense won’t be more “in to it” if they think they have an offense that can compete.
Instead of the BS that we have been seeing since Walsh!
July 7th, 2009 at 8:17 am
Dakota Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:10 am
Oaklifer, you mean this one?:
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!11
THANKS BOTHER I NEEDED A PICK ME UP!!!!!!!!!11
LOL this is great!!!1
July 7th, 2009 at 8:18 am
* BROTHER!!!!!!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Davis has to let Marshall manage the defense without having to be worried about justifying every playcall
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Agreed. Rob “the blob” Ryan was given 5 years and saw 4 different Head Coaches at the helm. John Marshall has to be given at least 3 years and the same goes for the Cable guy. that gives them plenty of time to put a stamp on this team and fill it with “their guys”. If by that time they still can’t turn the Raiders into a competitive annual playoff contender it’s time for yet another change. 6 years is a long time to be the laughing stock of the league and a lot of that has to do with coaching turnover and system changes imo
July 7th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Charlie Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:07 am
24 Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Kirk Says:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
hmmmm are they among us…….????????
LOL thanks again D-train that funny izzz right there!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 8:28 am
Instead of the BS that we have been seeing since Walsh!
?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?TOM?!?!?!?!?!
July 7th, 2009 at 8:30 am
ohhh its going to be very close =)
July 7th, 2009 at 8:31 am
#405 well done!
I am still LMAO
July 7th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Oak,
Yup, bed and breakfast.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:36 am
jhill Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:17 am
SnB,
I think you really undervalue the morale factor on defense. You can’t tell me that a defense won’t be more “in to it” if they think they have an offense that can compete.
Instead of the BS that we have been seeing since Walsh!
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JHill,
How much more morale do you need than having a 9 point lead with 5 minutes left? A 15 point lead into the 4th….A last stand victory against Miami?
The were 6 or 7 “here we go again” games. The other 9 or 10 games came down to players and coaches not executing when the opportunity presented itself.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:44 am
people act like Art Shell part 2 was a terrible idea. Art Shell is an awesome leader and coach. Problem is he’s not a play caller and he surrounded himself with guys that he trusted, rather than bright young football minds …
Shell’s major flaw was bringing in Walsh, Slater & Eatman. These guys did the most atrocious job ever. Imagine Knapp & Cable coaching under Shell instead of Kiffin. We would have won some games imo. Jerry Porter didn’t deserve a suspension, but he did deserve the bench. I like that no nonsense approach. you don’t work – you don’t play. period
July 7th, 2009 at 9:05 am
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/07/07/SPHR18I6GS.DTL
great read
July 7th, 2009 at 9:06 am
from Al Davis’ lips in the last post:
There is more to it than running the football. There is a passing game.
That is the #1 reason JaMarcus Russell will start. To throw the ball downfield at speedsters Heyward-Bey, Higgins, Schilens and Murphy. Walker too, if he can ever get healthy and return to form …
July 7th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Art Shell……can he still play? We might need some o-line help this year.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:13 am
thanks LMN. that was a great read!
glad to know that our former players still follow the team, keep in touch with Al Davis, visit the facility and give advice to our young players …
for the select few that listen, they have every opportunity to soak it all in and step up their games a notch or two
July 7th, 2009 at 9:26 am
where is everybody?
early lunch break?
July 7th, 2009 at 9:29 am
I wonder if the crowd at Staples Center will rush the coffin and start passing Jacko’s body around the crowd like people sometimes do in other countries?
July 7th, 2009 at 9:30 am
RRS…
we need Bo Jackson to talk to mighty Al, and tell him he need more snaps..
July 7th, 2009 at 9:32 am
bwahahhahah
RRS…
we need Bo Jackson to talk to mighty Al, and tell him that MICHAEL BUSH needs more snaps..
July 7th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Why are my comments waiting moderation today I didn’t call Jerry Lazy or say the Mod/Troll is on her period?
July 7th, 2009 at 9:39 am
BTW those two things will get you banned for two weeks each. I know this first hand!
July 7th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Good Morning Nation.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:59 am
I was LMAO yesterday reading Dakota’s and LMN’s posts!
You guys are crazy!!
July 7th, 2009 at 10:19 am
I enjoyed reading that article LMN, and I think Tatum wants to play again! lol
July 7th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Hello!!
Everybody!!!!
Anybody!!!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 10:38 am
we need Bo Jackson to talk to mighty Al, and tell him that MICHAEL BUSH needs more snaps..
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LMN: I’m sure there is no shortage of people willing to talk to Al Davis, especially his former players and/or family members
question is: will he listen?
Al Davis is a guy that has always done what he wants, when he wants to do it. Sure he can be convinced, like anybody else … but nothing will or can be done without his approval beforehand
ownership comes with power. most owners trust the men they hire enough to stay out of their business and let them do the job they were hired to do
Owners for the Bengals & Cowboys are also their GM’s. This works fine if you can do it all and still find a way to win games. That hasn’t been the case for any of these teams in some time, despite the talent on the rosters …
July 7th, 2009 at 10:39 am
good afternoon Raider O
July 7th, 2009 at 10:42 am
RRS…
So true, so true – and sad =)
Raider O, good to have ya back, yeah we are crazy, what do you expect? we are raider fans LOL
here the hell are 408 and dirty??
July 7th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Its more about Tom Cable’s decision making than Al Davis at this point. Davis already “managed” the draft and we have what we have.
The key to the offense jumping off is:
1. How will Cable use the talent on the offensive roster? Being creative without being a circus.
2. Let JaMarcus Russell throw the doggone ball. Russell had nearly a 2:1 TD to INT ratio. Let him throw the ball. DO NOT BECOME A 3YARD AND A CLOUD OF DUST OFFENSE….because it usually becomes 1.5yds and a cloud of dust in practice.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:02 am
As for the defense:
Al Davis needs to completely keep his hands off of the defense once he finishes completing the Raider roster. Al Davis already “managed” the draft and we have what we have. Let Marshall work with the ingredients given and cook the meal.
The key to the defense jumping off is:
1. Al Davis staying out of the defensive game plan and not offering any “directives” nor quizzing his coaches on every play they decide to call
2. Make the LBs more active. Currently they are nothing more than extra safeties on the field. Marshall needs to run and pass blitz these guys more often. No way Thomas Howard and Kirk Morrison only get TWO FREEKN SACKS for an ENTIRE year. No way that should happen. Davis has to lay off this view of not blitzing much.
3. Get the safeties more involved. You have two man2man corners….shouldn’t that free up a safety or two to do more freelancing? Shouldn’t that free up a safety to rush the passer or slam the runner?
4. Give different looks….with all this speed and athleticism…the Raiders should be as creative as the Ravens. Hell, drop Trevor Scott into coverage and send Howard on a blitz….maybe a 3-4 look from time to time….change it up.
5. Dwayne Board has to get the DTs to start occupying blockers. As JHIll believes..get them lined up correctly or whatever…those DTs have to be more of a force. The opponent should have to game plan around them. Key word is “should”
6. Kirk Morrison has to focus more on run stoppage. Let the OLBs and safeties pick up the slack
July 7th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Let JaMarcus Russell throw the doggone ball.
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S&B: now you know this contradicts everything you have said dating back even prior to the draft …
You’re always preaching a run-first offense (not a balanced offense) where many passes will be short ones to Miller, McFadden & Bush rather than the long bombs to our young speedy WR’s down the sideline. The former is the safe approach with Russell.
I’m of the “Let JaMarcus Russell throw the doggone ball” camp, where Russell gets every opportunity to showcase his arm, rather than hide behind the running game due to the suspect o-line and WR corps. IMO you don’t draft a QB #1 overall to throw the ball 10-12 times a game. That has “we don’t beleive in you” written all over it. Russell has to prove himself this year and the only way to do that is by putting the team on his back a few times. What happens when San Diego shuts down our running game on Week 1? I fully expect that to happen. We’ll find out rather early how much improvement he’s made this offseason
July 7th, 2009 at 11:31 am
I don’t buy that Al Davis dictator stuff. Does he have an opinion? Yes, and a knowledgable one. But the coaches call the game, not Al Davis. Are you really going to tell me that Al Davis will veto a successful defensive scheme that’s working? Your kidding yourself. Davis probably had a lot to say to Ryan b/c he saw that he needed some help, just like we did. Bresnahan and Willie Shaw ran different versions of the 4-3 that we ever saw under Ryan. Ryan just didn’t have the experience to make the proper adjustments. He was learning on the fly. This whole notion that Marshall will have an Al Davis blueprint to follow is non sense. Marshall will call on his years of experience as a DC to call the plays on Sunday, not Al’s wish list. Cmon!
July 7th, 2009 at 11:35 am
maybe a 3-4 look from time to time….change it up.
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S&B: this has “disaster” written all over it. Marshall is trying to bring back sound teaching and fundamentals. Try to undo the damage the Rob Ryan did. Teach them gap discipline and scrap the interchangable safety debacle. Yes we should blitz and bring the pressure. bring the heat. Just don’t try to do too much in Year 1. We finally have a 4-3 DC and you wants him running a 3-4 on occasion? We just got rid of Ryan the 3-4 expert. These guys don’t need the confusion. They need to know their assignments and execute. Blitzing a linebacker or safety should be enough heat on the QB, especially if Burgess is healthy and Scott gets plenty of playing time. Let’s not forget that Kelly & Warren are penetrators. They can collapse a pocket. They just aren’t beastly run stuffers.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Al Davis obviously doesn’t have input on the offense, or hasn’t the past however many years since Gruden took over. Gruden didn’t run his vertical offense. He certainly didn’t call the plays for Tom Walsh or Norv Turner, right? Think he had input with Kiffin?
This is all on Cable, offensively. You really think that Al Davis wouldn’t have Dmac, JRuss, DHB, and JLH (the fastest guys on the team) on the field at all times? It’s Cable who needs to get Bush on the field, not Davis.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Rockstar,
Not a contradiction at all. I believe the Raiders will be a run 1st offense. But relying on the running game doesn’t mean that you throw the ball 15 times a game.
Too many games last year the coaches handcuffed the passing game. The playcalling can’t be conservative. Even Russell says they should throw the ball more in the red zone. YOU HAVE TO TRY.
Doesn’t mean the Raiders are throwing like the Patriots…but they shouldn’t be running the ball like Knute Rockne’s Notre Dame either.
Just call a game. Call a game that’s not too predictable. Even when running the ball…don’t just call a Dive Right to Fargas….Dive left to Fargas….then throw on 3rd and 6 all game.
This team will be run heavy…and should be…they should run the ball 30 to 35 times…that still leaves 25 to 30 pass attempts per game
July 7th, 2009 at 11:38 am
This whole notion that Marshall will have an Al Davis blueprint to follow is non sense. Marshall will call on his years of experience as a DC to call the plays on Sunday, not Al’s wish list.
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Agreed. We finally have a 4-3 DC for the 4-3 Defense…and an experienced one at that!
That alone gives us reason for optimism on defense imo
July 7th, 2009 at 11:44 am
It’s Cable who needs to get Bush on the field, not Davis.
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and Davis already told Cable to do so …
said he wants more power in the run game. When asked what Davis meant, Cable said more carries for Mike Bush
Davis even scoffed at the notion that Bush was on the trading block. Bush will get his carries imo, especially if McFadden isn’t durable or is used primary as a receiver out of the backfield
July 7th, 2009 at 11:45 am
LMN says:
thats just because everything run by americans goes down the drain, you have proved that several times…
here we dont BUY health care, its RUN by the state…
funny thing is, all that you celebrate in your declaration of independence and bill of rights, is not much worth when all you think is about is “mine” “mine”, “mine”….. your founding fathers would probably be ashamed…
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Even far-right thinking (in public, anyway) Dakota, with all his non-reasons for not going into the military (btw, more power to him…at least he has the choice), is more open-minded than LMN…a 30-year-old who’s seen and done it all, and who knows exactly what America’s like — even though he’s never seen it.
LMN needs to go back and read what he writes in here, to see just how offensive he can be — he’s in denial. Dakota knows how offensive he is.
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Jhill is right about the offense this year. The team needs to be able to put up more than 17-points per game…one more TD per game = Playoffs guaranteed.
There aren’t too many teams that will score more than that weekly. If the Defense does its part this year, and we score 23/24-pts per game, we will even have a home Playoff game to look forward to.
There’s only one ball, though — and there is no way JaMarcus is going to (be able to) spread the ball around equally. It wouldn’t surprise me if the reception numbers come down more like this:
RB’s – 75 Catches
Z Miller – 70
Schilens – 50
DHB – 40 (DHB, or whomever is healthy in that spot)
JLH – 40
That’s 275 passes right there, and doesn’t account for the “miscellaneous” passes to other players that will add to those totals.
With his bum hammie, DHB might not even play much, and Murphy (even as a rook) or Holland could be the next bust-out WR. Even a healthy DHB might not be ready for prime-time yet. There are a lot of variables…but the one constant is, there is only one ball at a time. Expecting all our WR’s to catch 50, when we’ve got the NFL’s next great TE here is not realistic.
I don’t want The Greatest Show On Turf…I just want a great showing.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:45 am
jhill Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 11:31 am
I don’t buy that Al Davis dictator stuff. Does he have an opinion?
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I just don’t know about this one. I think that if the DC calls a blitz and it doesn’t work…the coaches are in the office explaining what they were trying to do. Can’t have that hanging over their collective heads.
How does Rob Ryan survive through 4 head coaching changes?
Look, Davis has a right to be involved because he was an ex-coach once upon a time. My point is simply that he has to let Marshall do his thing 100%…no compromises….
Maybe I am wrong. I am not there. That’s just one fan’s perception
July 7th, 2009 at 11:48 am
I agree with the different look angle, SnB.
RRS, Marshall ran a 3-3-5 on 3rd downs (not all 3rd downs Dude!) that had one or two of the LBs blitzing. I’d be ok with “mixing” that in on some 3rd down plays. But I agree with you in that we need to just keep it simple.
See ball, go get ball.
See that guy right there, nail his asz.
Hey CJ, you have 84, Nnamdi, you have 81, and Huff you have the TE. Got it?
Hey Sands, the first step you take is forward from where you line up.
We need to keep it that simple on D
July 7th, 2009 at 11:49 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 11:38 am
We finally have a 4-3 DC for the 4-3 Defense…and an experienced one at that!
That alone gives us reason for optimism on defense imo
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And with Danny Southwick’s offense racking up the points, the defense will be free to attack more. Even if we’re down in the fourth, Southwick will rally them back to victory. Just like he always has.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:52 am
HayesDaze37: playoffs?
pass that Kool-Aid brother!
July 7th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Rockstar,
We should expect a defense every bit as explosive, hard hitting, and effective as those that are played around the league.
Successfull defenses are creative, they stop the run, and they have a few players that can change the pace of the game at any time.
I don’t want a “serviceable” defense. And these guys have to be “smart” enough to handle the rigors of an NFL level defense. THis isn’t Tecmo Bowl where they run the same 4 defenses the whole game.
This defense, as it is currently assembled. is SOFT. The opponent feels they can just line up and take it to the defense. No one ever says…watch out for that Raider defense…they say…”just avoid Nnamdi Asomugha” That’s the game plan right now.
If the Raiders come back out there this year with more “Back 7″ oriented defenses…you can expect more that 100 tackles from the safety again
July 7th, 2009 at 11:53 am
75 Catches for the RBs????
Wow! How do you see that breaking down?
Wow! That’s a huge number.
If we can get a combined 80 catches from our starting WRs, we are going to be in the playoffs for sure!
July 7th, 2009 at 11:54 am
The “RB’s – 75 Catches” should say…
“DMC/MB – 75 Catches”
July 7th, 2009 at 11:55 am
BSJ: how many times do I have to tell you, Danny Southwick is the QB of the future … not today
He’ll have to sit & learn his rookie season, like Carson Palmer did. However, I think Southwick could have a Matt Ryan type rookie season if Al Davis handed him the keys. You know AD is all about loyalty though and Danny always bounces around from place to place.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:56 am
The offense is not going to be successfull just running the ball and doing playaction off the run.
Tom Cable has to call an NFL level offense and let Russell sink or swim as they say.
The reason Russell gets criticism is because his coaches rarely let him play. What kind of rhythm can a QB generate throwing the ball 15 times a game. ONly throwing on 3rd down or predictable situations.
Give the opponent something to think about. Run the ball hard and throw the ball with some level of confidence.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Zero FB catches? Southwick likes to throw to his FB…
July 7th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Jhill — 75 catches divided by 16-games = 4.69 catches per game.
If we don’t throw to the RB’s 4-5 times a game, we are wasting their considerable talents as receivers out of the backfield. It’s not at all unrealistic to see DMC get 3-passes, and MB getting 2-passes per game.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
I’d like to see Bush get carries, not catches out of the backfield. He shouldn’t get more than 2 passes thrown his way all game. Maybe one screen play, and a dump off because of a check down. Let’s say 16 catches for the season.
Are we really going to use McFadden out of the slot? If so, I love the idea of him catching 50 balls over the course of the season. Getting him in space against a LB or S should be interesting.
The twist for me is, I hope the formation is the shotgun with J-Russ and Bush in the backfield, Miller at TE, Schillens and DHB on the outside with McFadden in the slot. I also like to see that formation with McFadden in the backfield and JLH in the slot.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
I don’t understand your guys way of thinking …
We can’t stop the run with a 4 man D-Line, but now you want to switch to a 3 man D-Line on occasion?
#1 our defense will be confused, not the other teams offense
#2 what LB’s do we have that are that big of difference makers over the DE’s? Burgess, Scott, Ellis & Shaughnessy are going to be better against the run and pressure the passer better than Alston, Brown, Norris or Williams imo, especially when they are closer to the line of scrimmage. What DT do we have that can line up at NT and occupy 2 blockers or hold his own on a running play? none …
July 7th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Rockstar,
All I am asking Marshall is to not be vanilla in his playcalling
July 7th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
It would be interesting to see Russell in the shotgun with Heyward-Bey, Higgins & Schilens out wide, Miller on the edge (blocks if they blitz) and McFadden out of the backfield
thats a lot of speed on the field at the same time …
July 7th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
FB catches won’t amount to the same number as DMC/MB catches…that’s why I meant to separate them from the “miscellaneous” reception category. Seeing a FB rumble downfield a time or three per game wouldn’t bother me a bit.
My prediction is JaMarcus will throw 310-370 passes this year. That breaks down to 19-23 passes per game for Russell. With a running game that SHOULD be in the top-10 (if not dominant), those figures should be enough to propel the team upward.
IF…IF…IF…JaMarcus is ready to run a controlled, quick-strike Offense.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
You know vanilla…rush 4…linebackers back in zone….corners one-on-one and the safeties…never mind
July 7th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
All I am asking Marshall is to not be vanilla in his playcalling
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you can blitz out of a 4-3 defense. Jim Johnson does it in Philly all the time. Their defense flat out attacks 90 percent of the time. You don’t have to switch to a 3-4 or a 3-5-5 to be creative
July 7th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 11:55 am
BSJ: how many times do I have to tell you, Danny Southwick is the QB of the future … not today
He’ll have to sit & learn his rookie season, like Carson Palmer did. However, I think Southwick could have a Matt Ryan type rookie season if Al Davis handed him the keys. You know AD is all about loyalty though and Danny always bounces around from place to place.
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I guess I can understand your hesitation at this point, but don’t sell the kid short. He is the Larry Bird of the gridiron. He is Football Jesus. Just ask the coach at CalTech about Southwick. Best he ever saw.
So I’ll reserve your seat on the Southwick bandwagon for now. Jamarcus will soon be yesterday’s news, chewed up and discarded like Jeff Otis.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
In some …. SOME …. 3rd down situations, you could have line Warren (6′4 330lbs) over the C, TK at one DE, and Scott at the other. T Howard and Alston as 2 of the LB, and that is a nice 5 to apply PRESSURE on the QB.
I am not a fan of the 3-4 against running situations
July 7th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
You know vanilla…rush 4…linebackers back in zone….corners one-on-one and the safeties…never mind
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as was pointed out earlier, Shaw & Bresnahan before him didn’t have a defense anything similar to the one Ryan ran
Marshall isn’t Ryan.
Vanilla? we’ll see …
July 7th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
BSJ: hey, don’t sell Jeff Otis short. He was better than Tui & Walter and he replaced Trent Green in St. Louis!
July 7th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
My prediction is JaMarcus will throw 310-370 passes this year.
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LOL, how many will he complete?
And his first name is Danny.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Lance Kiffin ruined Andrew Walter for the Raiders. I only hope the kid gets a better shot elsewhere — he more than deserves it, for the way his pro career was started.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
so the 3-3-5 would look like this …
DL: Kelly, Warren, Scott
LB: Alston, Morrison, Howard
DB: Asomugha, CJ, Mitchell, Branch, Huff/Routt
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I think the nickel would be better in a 3rd & long situation
DL: Burgess, Kelly, Warren, Scott
LB: Morrison, Howard
DB: Asomugha, CJ, Mitchell, Branch, Huff/Routt
July 7th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Lane Kiffin ruined Walter? What about the 2006 season?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
#448 you ask.
“How does Rob Ryan survive through 4 head coaching changes?”
He does exactly what Al tells him to do every Sunday, oh yeah he swallows.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Here should be the stats of a normal game
Russell 22-30 250 yds 2 TDs 1 Int
DMAC 10 rush 50 yds 4 catches 60 yds
Bush 15 rush 70 yds 2 catches 15 yds 1TD
Schilens 5 rec 80 yds
JLH 3 rec 30 yds
Miller 5 rec 65 yds
DHB/Walker/Murphy 3 rec 20 yds
July 7th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Southwick>Otis>Green.
Green is one of only 7 QBs with three 4000 yd. seasons.
Quod Erat Demonstrandum….period (to quote PriestTj).
July 7th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
BSJ — JaMarcus threw 368 passes last year…in what is generously referred to as an up-and-down year.
If his 53% completion rate was the only indicator, the kid should be out the door. It’s not, though — and if JaMarcus throws roughly the same amount of balls (or fewer, because of a great running game) this year AND his completion rate improves, the offense will be just fine.
None of that is unrealistic — especially if one thinks JaMarcus hasn’t reached his potential. And I’m one of those who thinks this TEAM hasn’t reached its potential, and they all might just do it together.
That’s not just Kool-Aid, that’s looking at real-world NFL stats, and what happens when talent plays up to its ability. The Raiders have needed that for awhile, and it might actually be here.
Appt. time — gotta run. It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
All I am asking Marshall is to not be vanilla in his playcalling
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you can blitz out of a 4-3 defense. Jim Johnson does it in Philly all the time. Their defense flat out attacks 90 percent of the time. You don’t have to switch to a 3-4 or a 3-5-5 to be creative
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Just do something…whether its attacking, different formations, personnell…whatever….just do something except sit back and wait to lose
July 7th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Dakota Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Lane Kiffin ruined Walter? What about the 2006 season?
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Walter was pre-ruined. Kind of like that hot looking BMW for sale cheap on ebay. Powerful engine, but frame is bent.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Anybody see that guitar player at Michael Jacksons memorial? who was that?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Anybody see that guitar player at Michael Jacksons memorial? who was that?
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Bubbles?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Anybody see that guitar player at Michael Jacksons memorial? who was that?
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Joseph “John” Merrick
July 7th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Dakota
I owe you for that one, ok? You will be paid.
Anybody else, who was that guitar player, cool young white guy?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Which one KK, Bubbles or the Elephant man comment?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
McNair was shot in each temple and twice in the chest.
Does that sound like the work of a girlfriend that was just dumped?
Cmon Dakota, this isn’t making any sense!
July 7th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
John Mayer, smartassz. Thanks anyway.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Jhill,
Three shots at McNair were from a distance, one (presumably temple) was close range. Her shot was with barrel against her head.
It is hard to imagine her hitting him 3 times with no misses, and then putting the gun to his head for a fourth shot. But she did buy the gun alone two days prior…
What are they saying about the distraught ex-boyfriend? Any priors?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Dakota Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Anybody see that guitar player at Michael Jacksons memorial? who was that?
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Joseph “John” Merrick
^^^^^
John Mayer…
July 7th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Jhill,
What do you think it was, a drug deal gone wrong? Jealous friend who owns half the condo with McNair killed them? The guy from South Carolina killed them?
Naaaaa, she was pissed, bought a gun and blew him away imo…
Here is how it happened: she got the DUI in a vehicle registered in his name, with him in the car, and then when she saw that he was panicking about his wife finding out, she realized that he was not really planning to leave his wife and four kids, so she went out and purchased the gun hid it in the bedroom and then confronted him when she was ready…he answered wrongly, she walked into the bedroom, got the gun, walked back into the living room and wasted him and then took her own life.
Case closed.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
AW entered the draft with an injured throwing shoulder. impressive college stats. 2006 under atrocious playcalling and O-Line (can’t even call it “protection” or “blocking”) was his only opportunity with Randy “alligator arms” Moss as his primary target. Mr. ‘I play when I wanna play’ didn’t want to play … we drafted Russell and had every intention of letting him sit back and learn his rookie year – holdout or not. Walter could have pulled a Drew Brees, but instead of embracing the competition he pouted. He couldn’t beat out McCown or Culpepper and stuck on the roster as a 4th QB (inactive)
Last year Walter entered as the #2 man and Russell got injured. AW started against the Panthers and played almost exactly like he did in 2006, only with better coaching and a supporting cast this time. In this league you have to make the most of your opportunities and Andrew Walter certainly hasn’t. He should have came into this offseason (contract year) with a chip on his shoulder and something to prove. Again he should embrace the competition of Garcia & Gradkowski. Instead he ditched QB school and OTA’s – thus forcing the Raiders to bring in 2 more QB’s Danny Southwick & Charlie Frye.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
I haven’t heard anything about the boyfriend BSJ. They just released a statement from the coroner I believe it was that talked about the 2 shots to the temple.
I just find it hard to believe a sequence of events happened that allowed a woman with no prior gun experience to get off 4 shots and land 4 shots in fatal areas.
Who was this beeatch?!?!?!
July 7th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
John Mayer sucks. what a sissy
you guys like his music? LOL
real tough Raider fans I see …
July 7th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Jhill,
Three shots at McNair were from a distance, one (presumably temple) was close range. Her shot was with barrel against her head.
It is hard to imagine her hitting him 3 times with no misses, and then putting the gun to his head for a fourth shot. But she did buy the gun alone two days prior…
What are they saying about the distraught ex-boyfriend? Any priors?
^^^^^^
I wonder if she had prior gun shooting experience and whose finger prints were on the gun if any were found. Was gun residue on her hands or wrists? She could have bought the gun, but it could have been for someone else to use possibly?
Also, the cop who pulled her over for a DUI on Thursday was the same cop who pulled McNair over for his DUI correct?
July 7th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Why did the Raiders keep AW on the roster once it was clear he wasn’t beating out Culpepper or McCown?
July 7th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Too tidy Dakota ….
The car was in both of their names. They took public vacations together. The Tennesee mansion was on the market. McNair met the girl’s family.
Yup too neat for me!
I need a few more clues before I form my opinion.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Yeah RaiderPunkRock
You’re sooooooooooo tough, ooooooh.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
waitress was part of the taliban?
Air McNair got capped by some suicide kamazakee chick who thinks she’ll receive a sacred cow as reward by a fake magic genie named Allah for the murder of an american hero
July 7th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Dakota, the guitar player is John Mayer … played ‘Human Nature’ at the memorial
July 7th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
oops…need to ‘refresh’ more often heh heh…
Mayer does play wussy stuff for the chicks
July 7th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Kell: are you really a John Mayer fan? LOL
I thought only 60 year old women listened to that cr@p?
July 7th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
ps, he is a hell of a guitarist tho, I’ll give him that.
J-Marc’s got 4 games before Al loses his patience and Garcia gets his time.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Folks…not everything is a “conspiracy”
July 7th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Too bad Mayer wasn’t there for McNair. He could’ve blocked the bullets with his gigunda craniac.
Anyone see the Raider painted jet on NFLN last week? Bishin’…
July 7th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
The first time I ever saw or heard of the guy was yesterday. He’s a helluva a guitarist.
There’s a time and a place for everything, youngster.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
# Dakota Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Anybody see that guitar player at Michael Jacksons memorial? who was that?
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Bubbles?
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would that be Bubbles from ‘Trailer Park Boys’ ? LOL
July 7th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
S&B : Kelly listening to John Mayer is definately a “conspiracy”
LOL
July 7th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
SnB Defense Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Folks…not everything is a “conspiracy”
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Nope. Just the conspiracies.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
People make bad decisions in all walks of life.
Cheating on ones family…abusing drugs…and all other things….
Stuff happens….Life happens
July 7th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
MaineRaida
If anyone should be on the Al Davis scholarship it should be Russell. Al admitted to the world that he drafted Russell against Lane Kiffin’s advice, so Russell should be given another year or two before Davis gives up on him I would hope…
July 7th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Some of you little pootbutts know EVERYTHING, yet, never been around the block.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
if MJ was sick enough to molest little boys he probably took advantage of Bubbles too …
why doesn’t PETA launch an investigation?
July 7th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
MJ’s Gold coffin has a glory hole.
F’in pedophile lady boy. Good riddance…
July 7th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Dakota Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Jhill,
What do you think it was, a drug deal gone wrong? Jealous friend who owns half the condo with McNair killed them? The guy from South Carolina killed them?
Naaaaa, she was pissed, bought a gun and blew him away imo…
Here is how it happened: she got the DUI in a vehicle registered in his name, with him in the car, and then when she saw that he was panicking about his wife finding out, she realized that he was not really planning to leave his wife and four kids, so she went out and purchased the gun hid it in the bedroom and then confronted him when she was ready…he answered wrongly, she walked into the bedroom, got the gun, walked back into the living room and wasted him and then took her own life.
Case closed.
^^^^^^
Thats what I think happened as well.
He was worried about the wife finding out with the registration of the escalade being under both their names (not smart) and she started to realize that he wasn’t getting divorced anytime soon. She is young and in love and is crushed to come to the realization that he has been playing with her emotions and she goes crazy. Buys a gun from some low life and he teaches her how to use on the spot….they argue at the condo and she doesn’t like what he has to say, and she flys off the handle and murders him and since she has lost it she offs her self…or at least it is made to look that way?
Crime of passion basically….
July 7th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
505. amen
July 7th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Here’s the point….there is NO issues with Russell. This is a young QB that left college as a Junior…sat out his 1st year…just finished an up and down 1st year as a starter…finished on a high note and is entering his 2nd full season as a starter.
This rhetoric about Garcia, or do or die…that’s the kind of $&!@ that chronically losing franchises fret about.
Great franchises just let their young guys develop and build talent around them.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
510. Sounds plausible
July 7th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
S&B: i’m going to take your advice …
I’m going to cheat on my wife and start abusing drugs
when she questions me, I’ll say “stuff happens!”
LOL
nevermind. i’m not a democrat
July 7th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
LOL SnB,
Not saying there is a conspiracy going on here. A distraught wife or boyfriend who wants revenge without going to jail is not a conspiracy.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Tennessee and Arizona are going to crash back to earth for another 10 years when Warner and “KFC” retire next eyar
July 7th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
512. The voice of reason thank gawd
July 7th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Nnamdi
F.U. in your dirty little glory hole, ok?
July 7th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
514. we’re well aware of what you are RR
July 7th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Dakota, I don’t disagree and am not talking Garcia the rest of the way, but if Russell stumbles for Sept into Oct., I think they’ll stick Garcia in there; number one to not get into a worse hole, and number two, to continue to try to rattle Jmac into putting in his best effort on and off the field.
Re: McNair, with Grissom and Sarah and Warrick gone we’ll prolly never know exactly what went down…
July 7th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Rockstar,
McNair elected to participate in an affair outside his marriage and his 4 children. Choosing to consort with a 20 year old girl who probably showed some signs of instability way before the tragedy that came to pass.
Michael Jackson was abusing some drug used in surgery to help him sleep. Putting at risk his health and the ability to be a full-time father to his 3 children.
Hell, the Governor of South Carolina decided to do something very similiar to McNair. Perhaps he chose a more mature women, but still the same.
I find it sad that people would put their families (especially children) at such risk.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
we’re well aware of what you are RR
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the smartest man alive!
July 7th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
People are free to make their own choices in life. They should also be prepared to handle the consequences
July 7th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Now that your BF is dead you’re moving on to new fantasies aye KK?
Enjopy the savory loosery-ness that is your deluded world A hole.
PS.
Its people like you who make the world suck just a little bit for those of us who use reason and logic.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
522.
Peace
July 7th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
YOu can also put Bill Clinton and Dante Stallworth in the same category as the people above. Same with Sen. Ensign of Nevada….the Governor of New York…
Putting yourself at unnecessary risk is selfish considering the impact it will have on your family or others.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
521. Well said.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Jhill,
Do you think she bought the gun, contacted the ex-boyfriend to help her kill McNair and after they killed McNair, the ex-boyfriend then killed her for revenge and placed the gun under her body?
If the ex-boyfriend didn’t have an alibi the cops would be all over his ass.
What about McNair’s wife? Maybe she discovered the condo, rushed in, found the girlfriend’s gun, killed McNair and the girlfriend all to make it look like a murder-suicide?
Or, maybe it was the Russian mafia?
lol…probably just what it looks like, a woman scorned after she found out she was being used. The realtor that was selling the mansion said that the couple (McNair and his wife) were planning on selling the home and purchasing a new one by the lake…no divorce proceedings were filed anywhere…McNair was trying to have his cake and hump it too.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
nevermind. i’m not a democrat
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Nor lucid!
July 7th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
SnB Defense
MJ, killed himself because his children was getting too old…
July 7th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Konnichiwa Bishes! Raiders are back in 09′…
July 7th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
SnB,
I hope you’re right about no issues with Russell, but all we have to go on are the rumbles we read about, including by Cable, which so far have indicated a less than full effort from him at times. I’m rooting for him and hoping he’ll be kicking some big-time ass asap. If not then I’m not unhappy that we have Garcia in the wings, esp. as opposed to the Walters, Tuis etc. of the last few years.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
528. Good one Dakota!
530. LMAO!
July 7th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Dakota…
I have no clue what happened, but here is my guess…
McNair and his wife had some trouble, meanwhile he had some fun on the side, when he told the 20year old he was going back to his wife, because they had reconciled…. then she got loony and shot the guy…. when realizing what she done, she shot herself….
July 7th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
I chose not to make fun of people who have passed away. I also don’t think anyone really knows who these people were “good or bad”
I am sure that his 3 kids are heartbroken right now
July 7th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
I leave for a few hours, and look what happened?
lol
July 7th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
J-Marc’s got 4 games before Al loses his patience and Garcia gets his time.
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the Raiders started 2-8 last year. We finished the season 2-4 in division games. Thats not good enough, no matter how young or under-developed Russell might be.
In the first 10 reg. season games this year we play 5 games in our division – KC & SD twice, Denver once at home. If Russell is still playing like trash after 8 or 10 games and we have any realistic shot at the playoffs, Cable will bench Russell for Garcia … mark my words
Winning is more important than money to Al Davis. Look at all the fat contracts he gave out last year or just ask Nnamdi, Shane or Isaiah (highest paid at their positions this offseason)
right or wrong IT WILL HAPPEN.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
I am also sure that McNair’s sons are heartbroken right now too.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
I am sure that his 3 kids are heartbroken right now
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either that or relieved …
and there are more than 3 kids not named Jackson who feel some sort of redemption, knowing his evil soul is rotting in h3ll
July 7th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
LMN, probably a good guess…except for what that realtor was saying…that McNair and his wife were planning on buying a lake house together…so I don’t know about the whole marriage on the rocks thing, but maybe McNair was having second thoughts about his marriage, but didn’t let his wife know, and then was test driving this Iran1an girl???
The big losers in all of this are, of course, the 4 kids…at least the wife gets rid of a POS husband and gets the money.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
For all the haters, some Lakers copy:
“Kobe Bryant doesn’t believe Ron Artest will mess with the Lakers’ chemistry, the blend of personalities and talent that brought them the NBA title this season.
In fact,don’t even bring up the subject.
The Lakers star bristled Monday when asked about Artest fitting in.
“Where is that concern coming from? Because he ran in the stands and kicked somebody’s (rear). You talk to anybody that played with him, he’s a great teammate. He’s never been a problem in the locker room,” Bryant said.”
July 7th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Who cares if Mr. McNair was cheating on his wife?? Are any of you related to her??!!
You give yourselves a lot of rights, and one of them is talking about a dead man.
RIP Mr. McNair.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
As far as the offense goes we need to recognize as SnB pointed out that we are dealing with a two year starter at LSU who sat his rookie season in the NFL. He is not a Manning yet.
We will be a run first team mixing in alot of short passes to our backs. We were down 10 points with 11 minutes left in the game at Tampa and we ran the ball. We have too many weapons in the backfield and JR is still a work in progress.
Our Oline will make or break our season.
If our offense improves our defense improves by default.
I for one hold out little hope for our Dline.
I hear all this talk about gap discipline. Our DLine man simply get pushed out of the way by strong Olines.
Warren looks good against Denver and gets pancaked against SD. The Falcons/Patriots mess was not because of a poor scheme. Unfortunately a heavy dose of NFC east running will demonstrate we need a Dline talent upgrade.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Bo,
Check out these Artest videos…kinda cool, but at the same time, kinda disturbing….weird cat.
http://talkhoops.net/2009/07/this-week-in-ron-artest.html
July 7th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
MaineRaida Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
SnB,
I hope you’re right about no issues with Russell, but all we have to go on are the rumbles we read about, including by Cable, which so far have indicated a less than full effort from him at times. I’m rooting for him and hoping he’ll be kicking some big-time ass asap. If not then I’m not unhappy that we have Garcia in the wings, esp. as opposed to the Walters, Tuis etc. of the last few years.
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The rumblings are happening because the media likes to talk about Raider failures and the fans of the Raiders are generally an inpatient lot.
The media just wants to write articles about how dysfunctional the Raiders are. The Garcia & Russell situation gives them a way to meet their article deadlines.
Raider fans love wily old veterans. The Raiders haven’t developed their own QB in over 30 years. Raider fans are used to inserting some old washed up veteran or a decent player at the end of their career. Its part of the “reload” strategy everyone is used too.
Truth is…great teams develop a solid QB that can provide great QB play for 10 to 15 years. With that solid QB play a team can make multiple playoff runs and get a few legit shots at the Super Bowl.
Look at the teams consistently competitive:
Patriots, Colts, Steelers, Eagles, Giants are the five teams with consistent QB play.
All the rest of the teams have been up and down….and usually that inconsistency rests with frequent QB changeover.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Who cares if Mr. McNair was cheating on his wife?? Are any of you related to her??!!
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Raider O: you condone cheating on your wife?
better not tell “little princess” …
she might choose somebody other than daddy for a hero
July 7th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Correction:
Talking with no respect about a dead man. He showed us nothing but class in the field.
What he does behind closed doors is not our business. IMHO
July 7th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
More comments from the Champisphere:
“Artest has been consistently compared to Dennis Rodman over the last 24hrs… but he’s more charles barkley than Dennis Rodman…
Artest is the modern day Charles Barkley… eccentric personalities… good rebounders… adore attention… able to put the ball in the hole and while barkley would throw fans trough plate glass windows at bars… Artest saves time by not leaving the Arena!”
July 7th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
The reason there are no issues with Russell is because he has had the WORST situation for a young QB entering his 1st year as a starter.
He had no receiving talent…no left tackle…no coaching…and a litany of other issues.
He didn’t b&t** or complain…just went about his business and finished strong.
Like any young QB, he has to build off of last year.
No big deal…Its how young QBs develop
July 7th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
SnB,
true about the media loving to be all over the Raiders negatively, but nonetheless as mentioned some of this has been direct quotes from Cable himself, unless someone made them up…and I don’t put it past them in this day and age. I guess we’ll know over the next year what Jmac is made of in terms of effort, even if the performance itself is still understandably developing.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Cheating on ones family actually becomes everyones business when it ends in disaster like murder. Which becomes the public’s business.
Its everyones business if there is a broken family that can’t be cared for….of course in McNair’s case his family is well looked after.
McNair was a great player. I can’t celebrate someone walking out on their wife & children.
The family values folks (at least not the hypocrits) are right about the importance of keeping family together.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
RR,
You make me so angry, but I still like you! lol
I never said cheating is exceptable, but is it our business? Did he cheat on you?!
I never cheated on my wife, and I never will. ( I like to think of myself as a man of honor, and also a man who fears God), so I would rather divorce her than cheat on her.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Some Americans sits on their fat dumb asses, hidden from scrutiny in their bedrooms, judging other’s lives. Pathetic. Small-minded.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Raider O,
Part of being a celebrity is the fact that when good or bad things happen to you people are going to discuss it. Comes with the territory, right or wrong.
It is human nature to speculate…if we were not naturally curious, we would still be playing in the trees and crapping on the lions below…not that that would be a bad thing necessarily.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Dakota,
I will check em out at the casa. IT folks here ban the videos (smart move).
Remember when Jack Haley made rosters just to keep Rodman’s tri-polar mania in remission? Maybe Powell can keep Artest out of the stands, so to speak.
I just hope he isn’t another Karl Malone or Maurice Lucas: Toughness at the expense of important chemistry. Please do not let Artest stay longer than Phil does…
July 7th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Let he, who is without sin, cast the first stone.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
MaineRaida,
All Cable said was that Russell had to develop better study habits required of an NFL quarterback.
What sparked all this nonsense was two things:
First: He missed a freekn workout after the Cable comment. The media and many Raider fans jumped to the conclusion that Russell was still being lazy. Of course everyone had collective mud on their face when it was discovered that he missed the workout because his mother was in surgery and his Uncle (father figure) passed away
Second: The Raiders signed Jeff Garcia and he started running his mouth. The media looking to make weak causal arguments thought that Cable was looking to do to Russell what Arizona and Tennessee did to their young QBs.
Russell is right on schedule if you ask me. Especially on a team that was as flawed as the 2008 Raiders were.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Let he, who is without sin, cast the first stone.
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EXACTLY!
July 7th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Some Americans sits on their fat dumb asses, hidden from scrutiny in their bedrooms, judging other’s lives. Pathetic. Small-minded
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Kell: remember, you said “for better or worse, till death do us part” just chill. she’s only human
July 7th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Let he, who is without sin, cast the first stone.
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lol…KK you are hilarious. Always so serious, even on a blog.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
KoolKell,
Not making any judgements on people. The tragedy I feel bad for is the families that are left with unanswered questions and the loss of a loved one.
That’s the tragedy.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
is it our business? Did he cheat on you?!
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is it your business when I talk about going hunting or my political viewpoints? No, but you come in and state your point of view and stance on the subject at hand
thats what blogs are for … discussion/debate
July 7th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Dakota,
You make sense as always, but Mcnair was a football player!! He plays due to his love for the game ( and Money) but not to be a celebrity.
If some of you are related to him or his wife, I would understand all the Bashing!! I wasn’t talking about a few fans being curious. I was talking about having no Honor and bashing a dead man, when we all make mistakes.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
thats what blogs are for … discussion/debate
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Yes, but you have NO class!
July 7th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
RR,
When it comes to hunting:
1- If it’s legal, then I would just remind you to keep what you kill. ( eat it, give it to friends, just don’t kill for nothing!
2- if it’s not legal, then I would ask Dakota to make a few phone calls to his friends in the agency! lol
I own a gun, and I believe in my right to do so. I just don’t go around shooting things just cause I can.
I own an American Made gun, God bless America! lol
July 7th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
NFL/money/celebrity all go hand in hand when you are successful at your particular position O…is it worth it? I’d take my chances, lol. What is it with people cheating on their wives? Either don’t get married or leave your wife before you cheat…be a man…
…then again, I’ve only been married two years, lol.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
having no Honor and bashing a dead man, when we all make mistakes
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bashing a dead man? he cheated on his wife. that makes him a scumbag. thats the truth, thats not “bashing”
McNair had no honor.
it’s not considered a mistake if you plan it ahead of time either ….
so say your wife waits until you leave for work and invites the mailman in for some “fun”. is that considered a mistake? would that be easy to brush off your shoulder? put yourself in his wife or kids sho3s man. he was going to leave his family and marry this crazy 20 yr old chick
July 7th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
RR,
Do you own a gun?
July 7th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
When people bring children into the world…the margin for error shrinks and the responsibility they take on “should” increase ten-fold.
It means doing everything you can do to stay healthy and in your child’s life….It means keeping the family together and making sacrifices of personal satisfaction to the benefit of your child.
That means staying off drugs…no more drinking late into the hour every night…no more chasing girlfriends while leaving the wife at home…
I don’t understand why people willingly get married or have children if they aren’t ready to make the necessary committment
July 7th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Amen SnB!
July 7th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Kell: I have no class?
“Some Americans sits on their fat dumb asses, hidden from scrutiny in their bedrooms, judging other’s lives. Pathetic. Small-minded”
who talks about their wife that way?
it appears YOU have no class …
July 7th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Dakota,
Maybe that’s why I agree with you, I’ve only been married for 4 years. lol
Ask me again in 6 years, let’s see if I have the same views!? lol
July 7th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
all the hunting/trapping I do is legal …
and yes, I own a gun
but I can hunt for fun if I want to. I eat deer & turkey I shoot, but you don’t want to eat anything you catch trapping … yuck!
July 7th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Rockstar,
I think calling a guy a “s#@*bag” is a little over the top. The guy was a great guy in other aspects of his life and true to the point…no one is perfect.
I perfer to talk about the impact of bad decisions and less about someones character..weakness in character…doesn’t necessarily mean someone is without character completely. Terms like “s#&@bag” suggest no character at all. You can never really know someone without knowing them personally.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Rockstar
Go blow your brains out, scumbag.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Amen SnB, except the part with no drugs! A little green is OK! lol IMHO
July 7th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Go blow your brains out, scumbag.
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Kell: if that doesn’t have “class” written all over it I don’t know what does!
July 7th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
RR,
Now why do you do Trapping sir?
July 7th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
I own a Springfield XD45ACP. My wife owns a Smith and Wession Airweight .32…If I cheat on her, I wouldn’t be surprised to get a cap in my ass…much to LMN’s delight.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
except the part with no drugs! A little green is OK!
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so illegal hunting is wrong, but illegal drug use isn’t?
seems a little shady
July 7th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
RR,
So when you hunt for fun, you still eat what you hunt. That’s great and NORMAL, that’s what some of these animals are here for.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Dakota
You’re green as a pool table and twice as square. I’m optimistic that when you grow up a little bit, you’ll look back and say, what an ass I was.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Raider O Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Amen SnB, except the part with no drugs! A little green is OK! lol IMHO
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The point is that you don’t want to check out of life, if you can help it, before your children reach adult hood.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Raider O: if you don’t know what trapping is, google it
I’m not going to spend 30 minutes explaining it to you just so you can condemn me for it
July 7th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
I’ve hunted once in my life…killed a duck and felt real bad about it…but hunting is a great tradition. It brings fathers, brothers and friends together like few other things can…
Besides, if hunting wasn’t allowed, the human race would be overrun by deer, lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNGGbozilko
July 7th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
RR,
You didn’t ask me if I was a card holder, so why think it was illegal?!
July 7th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
KoolKell,
Keep judging me while telling others not to judge KK.
lol
July 7th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
If Americans can be accused of anything its this…
There seems to be an appalling lack of focus on ones family responsibilities.
I am no social scientist. If you have no dependents…then you are free and clear to do whatever you want to yourself and manage your personal relationships anyway you see fit.
But children deserve better from their parents. It includes the following:
1. Setting an example that your children can follow and be succesfull
2. Keeping yourself reasonably healthy by going to the doctor regularly
3. Staying employed and earning enough money to provide for family, even if you HATE YOUR JOB..buck up and deal with it…AND…to be able to spend enough time with your family to raise YOUR children
3a. Its equally questionable…in my judgemental opinion….to pursue extraordinary wealth at the EXPENSE of spending time with your family
4. Being an example to your wife in how you treat her….especially because daughters deserve to see their mother treated well and to demand the same AND so that sons know how to treat women when they grow older
4a. Cheating on your wife or abusing her sends a bad message to the next generation
5. Saving money and spending money wisely to save for your childrens present and future. If that means no big screen t.v, new car or Raider season tix…then that’s the way it has to be.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
You didn’t ask me if I was a card holder, so why think it was illegal?!
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it’s one thing if you have a prescription, but people with an RX usually don’t go around using terms like “legalize it!” as i’ve seen you in here backing it before
July 7th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
RR,
Dude, I don’t want to condemn you for anything.
I do know what Trapping is, I take a lot of pride in being a Farmer, so we have to do Trapping sothose animals don’t mess the farm and the product.
My point is my friend, you don’t go around killing for no reason, correct? Legal Trapping and Hunting is Normal, and needs some times. I don’t do both now, but just because I stopped it doesn’t give me the right to judge you.
Relax dude, and smoke some! lol
July 7th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
RR,
LMAO @ 589!! Very true!! lol
I dont have one, but I like you to ask me than judge me next time. I don’t judge you.
Still LMAO, good one!
July 7th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Damn, looks like the crowds didn’t pick up Jackos coffin and pass it around the stadium…that would have been crazy!
July 7th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
killing for no reason? no …
hunting/trapping is a sport. like basketball, football or anything else. No, we don’t trap just to trap.
#1 we do it to keep coyotes and bobcats off land owners property and protect their animals/livestock
#2 after you trap it and kill it, you skin it and sell the fur. like the old fur traders used to do, you make a profit. they fix it up and sell it. you probably end up wearing it
July 7th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Again, Al Davis deserves to do whatever it is he wishes with the Raiders. Not you, not BHP, not I, not any of the haters, not any of the networks, not BSPN, not any of the other owners, not the NFL commissioner’s office, not any other person (except perhaps his wife) has earned the right to tell Al Davis what to do with his time, money, love and knowledge.
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I strongly disagree, that’s just selfishness. And old people can get selfish as hell, because they know their time is up.
The Raiders are not just Al Davis! No more than the Cowboys are just Jerry Jones, or the Yankees are Steinbrenner. This is fukin Sports!
The Players, League, Fans, Investors, Season Ticket Holders, have no say? History, Careers, Legacy!. C’mon man. Listen UP: Al Davis is Not God. He needs to do what’s best for the team, just like all his employees.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Richochet Says:
July 4th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Long time fans? Who have supported the team? Who buy tickets and merchandise? HUGE majority grudgingly admit, while they love what Al has done through the decades for the Raiders, and love the image he has built, also know it’s time for Al to let others take over the helm.
Newer, younger, “image” fans? The wannabee badasses who think putting on a silly pirate shirt means they get to pillage and plunder? Those from afar? Who rarely if EVER pay a single penny to watch a Raider game???
“LET AL DO WHATEVER HE WANTS. IT’S HIS TEAM.”
And you would be wrong!!.
Licken it to a corportation.
IF it was, and Al Davis has cost the share holders as Al has cost the season ticket buyers? He would have been outed two decades ago.
That’s a fact.
Another fact: Those ticket buyers are investing in the company. They are paying to see a product. It’s up to Al to make sure he puts the absolute best product he possibly can, on the field, to satisfy those “stock holders”.
Fact is Al has made mistake after mistake after mistake.
So, NO, it’s not his team to just do as he pleases, because he’s a stubborn, stubborn, ornery, obstinate, self-centered, all about me, and ONLY me, codger who refuses to listen to anyone. The fact the Raiders have one of the worst supporting fan bases in the NFL says the fans are speaking with their wallets.
Last 10 years NO TEAM has had more home games blacked out than the Raiders.
It’s because many fans still support the team, but refuse to pay for tickets until Al is gone.
Every single Raider web site echoes my above comments.
As a Niner fan, the best birthday present I can have is Al staying around for another decade.
Which will be Raider fans worst nightmare.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
I like you to ask me, than judge me next time
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LOL. fair enough!
July 7th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Wow!
Nice social discussion, lol!
I don’t know what happened in that Condo Dakota. I really am just curious about the 20 year old Dave and Buster waitress who could land 4 out of 4 shots, 2 of them being to each temple.
That’s just crazy man!
Now if it was McNair shot 4 times, one in the leg, one in the neck, one in the crotch, THEN one in the head, then I’d be like yeah, ok crazy beatch.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
So the Raiders rank No. 116 out of 122 according to ESPN’s ranking of professional franchises. I can hear the cries of “Haters” already, but that’s what you get for 24-72. Who can deny that Raiders fans are getting less for their money than most any team in professional sports over the last six years?
Jerry McDonald.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
I really am just curious about the 20 year old Dave and Buster waitress who could land 4 out of 4 shots, 2 of them being to each temple.
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Jhill: she played a lot of Halo & Call of Duty
July 7th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Dakota…
as i said, its only my guess…. and on the marriage thing, thats why im not married… =)
July 7th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
What McNair did was wrong no doubt, but getting punished by death seems a little extreme here.
As for the shot pattern in McNair, that was almost special forces like. A few in the chest and then in the head. But we don’t know the range she was at.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
it’s 5 o’ clock somewhere …
see you guys tomorrow
have a great evening. enjoyed the convo
July 7th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
# SnB Defense Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
I chose not to make fun of people who have passed away. I also don’t think anyone really knows who these people were “good or bad”
I am sure that his 3 kids are heartbroken right now
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sorry if i heart your feelings saying some stuff on MJ, if i had children i would be more assured leaving them with OJ to babysit than MJ….
and I would never screw a wife of OJ =)
July 7th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Is anyone really saying that McNair deserved to die? I haven’t seen anyone post that…
MJ…well, that is another story…
July 7th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Later RR.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
RR,
BTW,the way you hunt and trap is legal and full of honor. Enjoy it and god bless you.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Well with MJ it depends on who you believe.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
When the team’s motto is “Just Win, Baby,” a six-season 24–116 record is the equivalent of a spike to the eye. Even tickets that are $10 below league average make fans feel as if they’re getting robbed and pillaged — and getting the shaft. It’s not surprising that Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum has been likened to a prison cell: A congested interstate (880) blocks any hope of an easy escape, the speaker system is inadequate and fan “support” should be rated NC-17. Oh, and come equipped with Kevlar if you plan to root for the opposition. Still, management is trying to prove it isn’t totally tone-deaf. Season ticket prices have been frozen (and start as low as $260), season ticket-holders receive a 3% credit for every referral who becomes a season ticket-buyer, and season ticket-holders who renew promptly are rewarded with Raiders gift cards. However, when an unceremonious dismissal of coach Lane Kiffin feels like a “Get out of jail free” card, there’s just one way to placate fans: JWB.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Oh man, Krappy is all hopped up on Arby’s milkshakes and Benadryl again! Spouting all of his old geezer nonsense, lashing out at bloggers while crapping his pants and generally just being Krappy.
Now for those of your who know Krappy the way I know Krappy, you know he gets his adult diapers in a bunch pretty easily. But he’s especially freaky today, and I’m a bit angry at KrappyWife for leaving him alone with the internet plugged in. Don’t you know he’s going to blog if he can get his head out of the microwave?
Krappy, can you put KrappyWife on the blog so I can have a few words with her?
July 7th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
# Dakota Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Is anyone really saying that McNair deserved to die? I haven’t seen anyone post that…
MJ…well, that is another story…
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LOL, so true….
July 7th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
But she did buy the gun alone two days prior…
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Dakota, Liberals just want citizens checked out & a waiting period. Who sells a gun to a bats#!t crazy 20yr old Iranian woman?
July 7th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Between 1996 and 2005, the Broncos won 10 or more games seven times, a pair of Supes (XXXII and XXXIII) and flowed with the consistency of a Rocky Mountain stream. Since then? Drought. They’ve lost as many as they’ve won (24–24), which is why, after 14 seasons as boss, the once untouchable Mike Shanahan now needs a ticket to see a game at Invesco. Lucky for him, he can enjoy the league’s cheapest beer ($5), soda well below league average ($3 vs. $3.80) and ticket prices just a cow-chip above the league average. Deals like those, as well as a pretty decent team, are why Denver has sold out every game since 1970 (and no-shows are booed when attendance is announced.)
ESPN
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Denver Broncos have sold out every game since 1970-WOW!
July 7th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
having no Honor and bashing a dead man, when we all make mistakes
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bashing a dead man? he cheated on his wife. that makes him a scumbag. thats the truth, thats not “bashing”
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Let me get this straight, RaiderRockstar, ARE you a Rockstar? Or in a band? If you are & you’re a Repub!can that would make you 1 of 2. Tedd Nugent is the other & he has his head up his ass most of his life.
You wouldn’t approve of his lifestyle(having married an 17 yr old Hawaiian girl & didn’t pay child support for another kid. Some conservitive, or maybe a shinning example lately of conservitives,lol.
Nugent also hasn’t done anything good since 1972 anyway.
RR, you’re a conservitive Rockstar who hates cheating on their wife, hates drugs & Liberals? OOOHHHH, you must be in a “christian” rock group, good luck with that.lololol
July 7th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
KoolKell,
I hear what your saying about the Al Davis and the Raiders. Davis’ biggest failure/issue is his general inability to hire a good coach since Flores. He’s been all over the place there. On top of this…Davis has had, and might still have, a penchant for getting too involved in the planning.
The one thing he does get credit for is getting the team to a high level at times during each decade. Super Bowl championships in the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s….decent run during the early 90’s and the Super Bowl run 6 years ago.
Lately, Davis has neglected his defense and as a result..the team has been somewhat soft the last few years.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Whats the age limit in Tenn, to buy a handgun?
Is it not 21 in most states? Isn’t there also a waiting period & background check?
Good shooting for a rookie. Two in the 10 ring, and two head shots.
It doesn’t take this long to get gunpowder residue results.
Things that make you go, hmmmmmm.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Denver Broncos have sold out every game since 1970-WOW!
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Just like EVERY NFL team when it gets close companies buy out the xtra tix so it will be a sell out. The city of Denver PAID for a new stadium for Bowlen which NEVER happened for Al & Pat paid back the city when he made it back.
Bowlen is now close to broke & can’t pay players salaries.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
SnB
Al Davis’s problems of late FAR exceed his coaching hires.
As of 2009 ESPN has the Raiders ranked 116 out of 122 Pro Sports Franchises.
Forbes Magazine has the Raiders ranked 31 out or 32 in value
http://www.forbes.com/2008/09/10/nfl-team-valuations-biz-sports-nfl08_cz_kb_mo_0910nfl_land.html
He’s doing a piss poor job as General Manager AND Owner.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Krappy, I told you to put the KrappyWife on so I can discuss your medication schedule and internet use with her.
Now get those Hot Pockets out of your ears and comply!
Hey LMN, you really are a big wimpy Euro, but I still want to hook you up with Charged Down. I think you two will make great pals and finger paint partners.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
The Raiders had the #1 payroll in the NFL last year and produced 5 wins, a 5 year high.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
C’mon, Mod — There’s been some real filth spewed on here today, and you’re holding up my even-handed post about McNair? What was it — the word “morality?” Or the fact you didn’t like my statement? That’s the same censorship in use in Ir@n and China right now.
Gotta love “free” speech.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Pawn shop was busy today! See ya.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
KoolKell,
I am no big fan of Al Davis as a manager. His mistakes have been extremely poor to date.
As for the value of the Raider franchise. Most of that has to do with two issues:
1. The Stadium
2. The size and relative wealth of the Oakland media market
Five of the seven lowest valued franchises play in rickety old stadiums. (Chargers, Bills, Jags, Falcons, 49ers, Raiders, Vikings). Jacksonville plays in a very small market. Atlanta…I am sure if they redo this list they will have moved up. Old stadiums lack the all important luxury suites and club level seating. The stadiums are not optimized with other amenities that fans would pay for….also, newer stadiums allow for higher ticket prices
Playing in a small market hurts too. Radio and non-game T.V money is limited as is advertising. People by merchandise…the larger the fan base the more opportunity to pull in dollars. Nine of the top ten teams are from the largest markets…including the Houston Texans and New York Jets…hardly teams that have historically had great product on the field.
If Oakland..or any of the bottom 10 teams were to move to L.A…with a new stadium…those teams value would shoot up into the top 10
Now given above…make no mistake..the Raiders losing games has not helped one bit.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
The Raiders had the #1 payroll in the NFL last year and produced 5 wins, a 5 year high.
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He does want to win and is probably spending a larger percentage of his teams value than others.
Unfortunately, Al Davis the General Manager has been a disaster the last few years
July 7th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
SnB
Al Davis’s problems of late FAR exceed his coaching hires.
As of 2009 ESPN has the Raiders ranked 116 out of 122 Pro Sports Franchises.
Forbes Magazine has the Raiders ranked 31 out or 32 in value
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He’s doing a piss poor job as General Manager AND Owner.
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KK — Al HAS done a poor job as GM & Owner before — he even says so — but people don’t acknowledge when he admits his own failings (but they love to point out when he’s wrong, huh, KK?). How do you know Al’s doing a poor job of ANYTHING right now?
Whether you like it or not, doesn’t Al have the RIGHT to do things as well or poorly as he sees fit (or is capable of doing?). His team, his business, his (and my) money…and his legacy. None of those things depend on you, KK — as much as it seems to hurt your pride.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
SnB
I don’t buy the small-market argument. The SF Bay area is not exactly farmland
KC
Carolina
Tampa Bay
Pitt
Cincinnati ( for gawdsakes)
Indy
are all higher. The Stadium issue? yes that’s legit, and Al Davis, famous for suing his partners, will never get one.
That’s such a damned shame, he’s such an Icon. If he had deigned to be a part of this community instead of the community pariah, he could have done so well for the Raiders.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
And the Raiders “ranking” or value among other pro franchises is as fluid as their record. Put a winning team on the field, and their ticket/merchandise sales and all other values go up in a hurry. Just like they can plummet in a hurry. 116 is just a number that means nothing IF the team’s not for sale.
I want Mark Davis to take over the team, and run it just like Al would (with the good years in there, too!)…just to pi$$-off guys like KK.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
There’s about 10 million people in the Bay Area Media Market.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
The big thing this team needs to learn is to have a KILLER instinct and work hard.
Lacking the killer instinct from the beginning of the start. Lacking the killer instinct cost this team the San Diego and Buffalo games last year.
Thanfully we have a new D coordinator that seems to know how study film, gameplan against an opponents offensive weaknesses and make adjustments on the fly when they need to be done.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
I bet there’s a shyt load of hangers-on’s, enablers, bloodsuckers over at HQ telling Davis what he want’s to hear in the interests of simply staying on the gravy-train.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
SnB
I don’t buy the small-market argument. The SF Bay area is not exactly farmland
KC
Carolina
Tampa Bay
Pitt
Cincinnati ( for gawdsakes)
Indy
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All those teams have new stadiums. Kansas City Chiefs are the only game in town for miles and miles and miles. Plus the Raiders have the worst stadium issues in the league. So you combine those two things and you end up near the bottom.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
There’s about 10 million people in the Bay Area Media Market.
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And there is probably 20 million in the L.A area. Californians, on average, aren’t as dedicated as sports fans in other parts of the country.
Similiar to how the Southeast is rabid college football fans…but fans in the Northeast could care less about college football.
10 million in the Bay Area might be the same in effectiveness as 3 million in the Pittsburgh area.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Yes they have new stadiums and the Raiders don’t! That’s the point. The Raiders don’t have a new stadium is LA, Oakland, Irwindale or Hollywood Park.
Now if the Raiders had a functional managment……instead of back-seating his coaches……….
July 7th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
San Diego Chargers, Oakland Raiders and San Fran 49ers are all in the bottom 7 in franchise value.
The 2nd largest American city (located in California) hasn’t had an NFL team since 1994 and is not targeted to get a team any time soon.
Hell, Houston, Cleveland and Baltimore were all considered better options than L.A.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Yes they have new stadiums and the Raiders don’t! That’s the point. The Raiders don’t have a new stadium is LA, Oakland, Irwindale or Hollywood Park.
Now if the Raiders had a functional managment……instead of back-seating his coaches……….
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True enough. But no California football teams have new stadiums. I don’t think Californians have an appetite for public money to be used for stadium projects. That’s before the financial crisis.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
The 2nd largest American city (located in California) hasn’t had an NFL team since 1994 and is not targeted to get a team any time soon.
Hell, Houston, Cleveland and Baltimore were all considered better options than L.A.
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No to Al Davis though, huh?
July 7th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
KoolKell,
But Al Davis’ philosophy is part of the equation as well. The Raiders are generally not media friendly. They are one of few teams, maybe the only team, that don’t allow fans to visit training camps. The media is regarded as the enemy as opposed to an enabler to help generate fan interest.
The Raiders don’t market their players much either. The last player of any real commercial prominence was Bo Jackson.
I don’t think Al Davis is a saavy business man in the mold of Jerry Jones, Daniel Snyder or even the Rooney’s in Pittsburgh.
The Raiders basically rely on their image and it appears they pay scant attention to effective marketing of the players and the product.
That hurts the value of the team…but allows the players to more focus on football and not have to worry too much about media obligations. I know JaMarcus Russell and Tommy Kelly appreciate that because they hate talking to the media.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
True enough. But no California football teams have new stadiums. I don’t think Californians have an appetite for public money to be used for stadium projects. That’s before the financial crisis.
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True enough, but Al Davis is waiting for someone to build him a stadium.
The Giants have a new Stadium and the Dodgers have a new stadium.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Man…I tried to change few things and re-submit my earlier post about Steve McNair, but it got flagged again. I don’t get why it’s being flagged, there aren’t any “bad” words in it — and no insults directed at anybody…
July 7th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
The 2nd largest American city (located in California) hasn’t had an NFL team since 1994 and is not targeted to get a team any time soon.
Hell, Houston, Cleveland and Baltimore were all considered better options than L.A.
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No to Al Davis though, huh?
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I don’t think Al Davis ever considered moving away from California. To me, it seems the move back to Oakland was done for sentimental reasons….and not necessarily as a thought out decision about what best for the balance sheet.
Had he looked at the business side of it…he would have moved to Houston or Baltimore. Those cities were clamoring for teams and have large markets.
Look, I don’t think Al Davis is a professional business man from the standpoint of thinking about business strategy and such. He’s a football guy that dedicates most of his time…if not all of it…towards the football side of it. He’s old now, so I doubt his energy allows him to be a master of both sides.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
KoolKell,
But Al Davis’ philosophy is part of the equation as well. The Raiders are generally not media friendly. They are one of few teams, maybe the only team, that don’t allow fans to visit training camps. The media is regarded as the enemy as opposed to an enabler to help generate fan interest.
The Raiders don’t market their players much either. The last player of any real commercial prominence was Bo Jackson.
I don’t think Al Davis is a saavy business man in the mold of Jerry Jones, Daniel Snyder or even the Rooney’s in Pittsburgh.
The Raiders basically rely on their image and it appears they pay scant attention to effective marketing of the players and the product.
That hurts the value of the team…but allows the players to more focus on football and not have to worry too much about media obligations. I know JaMarcus Russell and Tommy Kelly appreciate that because they hate talking to the media.
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Exactly. An Ideologue and counter-productive.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
One reference to KK, though…but it was truthful!
July 7th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
KoolKell,
I agree with you. Davis is waiting for someone to build him a stadium. I don’t live in the Oakland area so I have no idea about the local politics there. I do live in an NFL city and have lived in others and typically the community is a part of getting these stadiums built as well.
Davis should have spent more time getting a stadium in Oakland when they moved in 94. Had they done that at any time before the recent financial crisis they would have a stadium….Davis and Amy Trask definitely should bear the burden for being so slow in getting a stadium financed and built once they decided to move back to Oakland.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
KoolKell,
The Raiders losing is a significant contributor. The last 25 years has seen very middling football with the exception of 5 or 6 years (1990-93) (2000 – 02) Other than those years…its been bad football and sometimes downright awful football.
All of this…the record, the stadium, market demographics, business philosophy…all of it contributes to their current standing. And as owner, Davis is accountable for the results.
But KoolKell…He is the owner and its his team…Private property…so he is free to run it anyway he wishes…..
July 7th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
He waited for someone to build him a stadium in LA, Hollywood Park, Oakland, and he hasn’t gotten it done.
LA city council was glad to get rid of him. He’s not welcome in LA, that’s one reason it’s still empty. Of course he’s still threatening them with lawsuits and all.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
But KoolKell…He is the owner and its his team…Private property…so he is free to run it anyway he wishes…..
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Repost:
I strongly disagree, that’s just selfishness. And old people can get selfish as hell, because they know their time is up.
The Raiders are not just Al Davis! No more than the Cowboys are just Jerry Jones, or the Yankees are Steinbrenner. This is fukin Sports!
The Players, League, Fans, Investors, Season Ticket Holders, have no say? History, Careers, Legacy!. C’mon man. Listen UP: Al Davis is Not God. He needs to do what’s best for the team, just like all his employees.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
SnB — Correct about the team mirroring the owner’s personality and traits in large part. That’s true for just about any team. What was once Al’s (and the team’s) great mystique disappeared with the losing records.
The mystique became paranoia (at once, both justified and media-perceived), and Al’s secretive ways became conspiracy-laden…even though I can’t figure out how “conspiracy” comes in at all — Al IS the owner in charge of all things football, so he can only be conspiring with himself.
Guess what? That makes the mess of the last few years all ultimately Al’s fault. Something he knows all too well — thus his quote about his birthday being happy when “we” win again.
Al’s a winner, and he hates the taste of losing so much, he can’t even fully enjoy his birthday party in the off-deason in July.
That’s a real owner for you. One of the few real owners left.
More power
July 7th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Al’s a winner, and he hates the taste of losing so much, he can’t even fully enjoy his birthday party in the off-deason in July.
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Gosh, that was sooo touching, snif, snif.
July 7th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
The Lakers suck. They’re the champions of a dying, boring league, that doesn’t have an ounce of the luster or competition it had even 5 years ago. See you guys in a while.
July 7th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
More power to him, KK! More power to Al!
July 7th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
“He wants to win” so what??????
People in hell want ice-water.
July 7th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
KK people in hell want beer…noy ice water
July 7th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Partial & edited repost of an earlier discussion about JaMarcus Russell and the offense:
Jhill is right about the offense this year. The team needs to be able to put up more than 17-points per game…one more TD per game = Playoffs guaranteed.
There aren’t too many teams that will score more than that weekly. If the Defense does its part this year, and we score 23/24-pts per game, we will even have a home Playoff game to look forward to.
There’s only one ball, though — and there is no way JaMarcus is going to (be able to) spread the ball around equally.
It wouldn’t surprise me if the reception numbers come down more like this:
DMC/MB – 75 Catches
Z Miller – 70
Schilens – 50
DHB – 40 (DHB/whomever’s healthy in that spot)
JLH – 40
That’s 275 passes right there, and doesn’t account for the “miscellaneous” passes to other players that will add to those totals.
With his bum hammie, DHB might not even play much, and Murphy (even as a rook) or Holland could be the next bust-out WR. Even a healthy DHB might not be ready for prime-time yet. There are a lot of variables…but the one constant is, there is only one ball at a time. Expecting all our WR’s to catch 50, when we’ve got the NFL’s next great TE here is not realistic.
July 7th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
not
July 7th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Dohyer Stadium, was opened in 1962. Hardly new.
The only new venue built here in SO-CAL in the last 40+ years, is Staples Center.
July 7th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Sure Al Davis wants to win…..but the problem is, he doesn’t know what how to win anymore in this day and age, and his stubborness and ego have got in the way of that. Trading Gruden was his last great MISTAKE that set this organization back several years.
“Organizations win championships”- Al Davis
July 7th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Al is to impatient..he wants to win now and not take the time to BUILD a team like everyone else in the nfl
July 7th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
So inturn he keep trying new things every year and not let one thing take root and grow as a team…I hope with Cable he lets the team grow as 1 coaches and players
July 7th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Dago’s new baseball stadium doesn’t count, since after all it is in Dago. (No offense O.)
July 7th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
And the reason why a new stadium for football hasn’t been built in L.A. is because the CITIES in the greater L.A. area can’t get the job done. Even when some thought they had it done, the NFL over-ruled them. Irwindale? Hey, they tried…and paid the Raiders for their delay (like any other corporation or biz would’ve been compensated for their time).
If nearly any large city/metro area wants to do it badly enough, they can get a stadium built — but it takes forward thinking and long-range planning…something politicians aren’t known for in this age of instant results or condemnation.
Even the Rose Bowl is just another old, drab complex with a history now…doomed to rot, like…
The L.A. Coliseum has been an embarrassment for decades (even before THOSE politicians lied about improvements to THAT stadium).
New stadia bring growth all around them, and generate re-growth where some people thought it could never happen again (think Baltimore, Phoenix/Glendale, Houston, et al). Any large-city mayor who DOES NOT look into the possibility of adding a major sports franchise, and associated new development, to his city should be impeached. Not saying it’s right for ALL cities…just saying it could be right for a lot of cities/areas.
Oakland needs to fix what they’ve got, like right now. It’s NOT Al’s fault that the Oakland Coliseum doesn’t have enough urinals (or capacity) for their “overflow” crowds.
If the Oakland City Council/Coliseum do not keep the Raiders, it will be all their fault (yes, KK, all THEIR fault!)…and they won’t be getting another NFL team into Oakland until they…
…build a new stadium. How ironic that would be.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
HD37..
The politicians here in SO-CAL, couldn’t find their azz with both hands, and a map.
Don’t even get me started on the imbeciles in SACTOWN.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
People like you blame everyone and everything for the Raiders fortunes EXCEPT Al Davis. Nutty.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
EVERYBODY LISTEN UP:
SOMEONE HAS TO BUILD AL DAVIS A STADIUM.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Next you’ll say I blinded by hate. Same ole same ole.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
KoolKell,
It is Al Davis fault for this mess. If he wasn’t the owner…he surely would have been fired for his results on the field.
But he is the Owner. An NFL franchise is accountable to the Owner of that franchise. Al Davis has suffered for his incompetence though. You stated that the Raiders are the second least valued team in the NFL. That’s hurt him in the pocket book.
If Al was 20 or 30 yrs younger…he might feel the sting of the pocketbook a little more. But at 80…my guess is that he is more focused on winning games now. Sort of like Ralph Wilson in Buffalo. Once he leaves the scene…Buffalo will end up in Toronto or L.A full time.
Hopefully Davis will let Tom Cable and John Marshall coach without too much input. That’s been tbe biggest problem of late…not letting coaches coach. I use the Rob Ryan case as proof. How does a D.C survive 4 head coaches unless the owner is calling the shots.
Also, Davis’ personnel decisions have been poor. Especially on the defensive side of the ball. No emphasis on power….all speed….
Hopefully things get better this year
July 7th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
The Raiders are a Franchise of the NFL.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
It’s not a stand alone business. I don’t know the Right & Responsibilities of NFL Owners, but I’m sure they’re responsibile to the members. And there’s certainly a public trust with the fans of the game.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
C’mon, Kell — You know I NEVER blame others for Al’s screw-ups…you just don’t have a case when I throw out your only argument before you can…
KoolKell Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
People like you blame everyone and everything for the Raiders fortunes EXCEPT Al Davis. Nutty.
HayesDaze37 Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
…What was once Al’s (and the team’s) great mystique disappeared with the losing records.
./.
Guess what? That makes the mess of the last few years all ultimately Al’s fault. Something he knows all too well — thus his quote about his birthday being happy when “we” win again.
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So, KK — Where in there do I blame anyone but Al for Al’s failings?
For a rare occasion, you’re right — you ARE simply blinded by your hatred of the man…no matter what he’s done (good or bad) as GM the past several years. And too small-minded to admit it.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
C’mon, KK — Chase that tail around some more…
July 7th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Why would I hate Al Davis?
Just because they’re at the bottom of every list possible? Geez.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
He hates him and he knows it, He hides behind the record crap. Truth is KK has no clue what’s involved in putting a winning team on the field.
My 2 year old neice can complain that the Raiders don’t win, why can’t the Raiders win? why why why!!
As if he’s letting the lose on purpose so KK can’t have any fun. The Raiders should’ve won more games the last 2 years but they didn’t and that IMO had very little to do with Al Davis. Kiffin never gave JLH a chance nor AW.
Gannon got hurt and that “hell of a QB” as Jerry called him McCown failed miserably. Al then spent tons to get talent in here and it didn’t work out. This year he took a very different apparoach and let’s see how it works out.
He wants to win and is doing everything he can to ensure it but nothing is gauranteed. Now he may be trying everything he knows but if it doesn’t work sometimes circumstances dictate results more than the decisions made. Injuries play a major role in wins and losses.
Acquiring talent is his job and most will admit the team is talented. So his job has gained approval but let’s see if it results in wins………which is the ultimate measuring stick.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Now here’s the other Cult member.
You know all about putting winning teams on the field, don’t cha.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
All the enablers can say is “Dang he wants to win”
I’m sure John McCain wanted to win too. People in hell want ice-water.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Priesttj Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
He hates him and he knows it, He hides behind the record crap.
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Duh? Record crap? Jezus H. Christ
July 7th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
As with most things the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
KoolKell: Al Davis is the Owner of the team and is entitled to run it the way he wants as long as he can deal with the consequences. He tries to win as can be evidenced by his spending spree. He’s had success and has drafted some good talent.
Priesttj: The last 6 years are totally unacceptable by any measure. The swapping out of coaches equally inexcusable. Al Davis is responsible for the poor performance and sub .500 record since 1989. He also makes more than his share of questionable personnell decisions. If a GM working for Davis had this record…Al would have fired him himself.
So the answer is in the middle. Davis has screwed up BIG TIME the last 6 yrs and has a middling record the last 25. But the man has multiple Super Bowls and several Conference Championship and SB appearances. That can’t be dismissed.
Davis knows he has to win now. Otherwise his legacy will have tarnish on it and I don’t believe he wants to be known as a man of two halfs: A strong first 20 yrs and a plodding last 20 years.
Just tell Al to let Tom Cable and John Marshall coach!
July 7th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Later
July 7th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
909,
None taken my brother!! I drove by Petco Park a few times, it looks good, but I haven’t been inside it.
As for San Diego, I pay and live here for the weather only. Schools are not that great, we need better water sys, we need Elec, drinking water, etc…..
Dude, we dump our S… In the Pacific Ocean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I surf in toilet water!!!!! Thank you San Diego!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Does he try to win? Really. Or is he more interested in his vendettas his ideologies, and his ego or all the other counter-productive bs?
July 7th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Later.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
He has to bare the blame for it. But IMO the last 2 years we should’ve won more games but the damn kid he hired was more interested in showing him up than winning. Yes Al Davis is at fault he hired the guy but the guy could’ve won more games with what he had.
Now this year we are going in with a talented roster IMO but will it translate to wins? we’ll have to see.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
KK — You should change your initials to ZZZzzz.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
BHP,
I think we have better roster this year than the prev 2. The Kittin let his emotions get the best of him, and that’s why I don’t respect him. He acted like a spoiled kid who thought he had a right to coach in the NFL.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
How did he win before KK? What vendetta did he have against Kiffin when he hired him. His ideologies are you do whatever you have to do to win.
SnB tries to get people to believe he frces DC’s to coach his way……..are you sure of that?
Seems to me we’ve run every defense imaginable since Ryan was here……….contraary to popular opinion. We ran every front and every coverage in ythe last 2 years so which one his Al Davis’?
I watched the SD game from last year and saw several exotic blitzes, something EVERYONE says we don’t do. In the Denver game that we won T Howard blitzed 6 times and drew flags on 3 different occasions when he hit Cutler.
What people say and what actually happens appears to me to be 2 different things…….way tooo often.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
KK has a point, Al is also the GM. He hired The Kittin, Norv, Art, and Bill C! All were bad coaches! IMHO
July 7th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Al also hired Robo Ryan, and kept him for 6 years. Now that was Al’s special scholarship Program. lol
July 7th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Rob Ryan, got another job as he said he would Raider O. And to this day the players swear by him. That defense he ran last year in many cases was victimized by the offense especially 2years ago.
Raider O, no one is exusing Al Davis, I’m meerly pointing out what I think contributed to those failures. He has made bad hires several I disagreed with immediately.
My point is he has biult a young talented team. But some guy in here continues to say he can’t do what he just did. Biuld a team.
If the last 6 years are all his fault, if this team starts to win and win big. Who’ll get the credit??
July 7th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Priesttj Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
How did he win before KK?
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He hasn’t won since 1984!!!!
He’s an overall loser since the advent of Modern Football, post Free Agency.
What don’t you people understand about that?
July 7th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
that was me bhp…now he need to keep the same coaching staff in place for more then 2 years
July 7th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
KK, cut out the crap, Our record from 1999-2002 was the best in the NFL. He hasn’t won a SB since ‘84 but we won the west 3 straight years.
What don’t you understand about that? And we’ll win this year, not a SB but the double digit loss years are over.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
KK, if we start winning this year who gets the credit for biulding this team???
July 7th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
KK, answer the ??
July 7th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
KK, where are you??
answer the?? who gets the credit??
July 7th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
KK, are you capable of saying that Al Davis actually biult another winner after saying he no longer has it.
Can you give credit where credit is due?
July 7th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Hold your water Priest.
That’s Al Davis major problem, parsing the “credit” in his favor” and that seems to be all his goons care about.
If the Raiders win with this group, He’ll get my credit for drafting Russell, Dmac & Bush, Miller. Cable & Russell will get credit for their leadership.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
The problem is, if anybody gets more credit than Al, he’ll ruin the whole thing.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
The Raiders are a sub.500 team since the advent of Free Agency.
Al hasn’t demonstrated he can be successful in the Modern Era.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Yeah just like he did when Gruden was here right.
When you talk who’s fault it is, you ONLY mention Mr Davis but when the credit gets passed around for winning you mention the coaches and QB.
If it’s ALL his fault when they lose, he should get ALL the credit when they win. Or mayb e it’s as we’ve all said many times he’s not the ONLY one at fault.
I’ve seen him give plaenty credit to players and coaches and so have you……..problem is you can’t admit it.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
And you haven’t demonstrated that you comprehend success since FA. Anyone who’s halfway objective knows this team has been successful. They just haven’t won a SB if that’s your only idea of success, he has a ton of company at leats 80% of the league.
KK, let’s forget the ridiculous there is a such thing as succes with out winning the SB. There are of course levels of success and until he wins a SB he wont rest. But they have been very successful recently.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Priest
The Raiders are sub.500 since 1989.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
But they have been very successful recently.
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How do you calculate that?
July 7th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
The Raiders are sub.500 since 1989.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
The Raiders are sub.500 since Free Agency.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
The Raiders are sub.500 since Plan B Free Agency.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Can anyone think of another way to say the Raiders are sub.500 over the last 30 yrs?
July 7th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
BHP
You speake engrish?
The Raiders are sub.500 since Plan B Free Agency.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
KK, why do you take the parts that fit your argument but wnt accept that logic from someone else. The raiders were at 65% winning % from 1999-2002 that’s how I get that. They also won with bad QB’s such as Jay Schroeder and Marc Wilson in fact Wilson took them to the championship game.
Also if you look at every team since 1984 that 500 winning % is not as bad as YOU think. In fact it’s in the top 5% of the league.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
1999-2002. 3 yrs out of 30.
The Raiders are sub.500 since Plan B Free Agency.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
I would love to see that winning% would be if Mr Gruden hadnt came along and won despite Al’s foolishness??
July 7th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Priest,
How many winning seasons has this team had in the last 25 years?
July 7th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Forbes has the Raiders ranked 31st in value
ESPN survey says Raider are ranked 116 out of 122 pros sports franchises on the value returned to the fans.
Sub.500 over the last 3o yrs, and I’m being hateful?????????????
July 7th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
At least the top 10% of the league. a 500 record over 25 years conytrary to popular belief is very good. The best teams are at 600 tops.
KK wether you understand it or not winning in this league over that long a period of time is extremely difficult. Most teams can only sustain success over a 5 year period and they sink back into mediocrity. The best teams can do is win ove a 10 -15 year period and they usually fall around the 35/100 winning %. Hovering at a 500 winning % is very good especially over that 25 year period of time.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
6 (six) winning seasons since 1989.
I’m being close-minded???? really.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Yeah also your very ignorant, over that same period of time wh had the best winning percentage?
July 7th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Who was better KK? how many teams were better??
July 7th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
KK wether you understand it or not winning in this league over that long a period of time is extremely difficult. Most teams can only sustain success over a 5 year period and they sink back into mediocrity………….
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Don’t give me that condescending shyt. Who the hell do you think you’re talking too?
July 7th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
How many winning seasons in 25 years??
Dont be a coward and answer.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Who do you think you’re talking to?
You love to quote %’s come on tell us who’s better? how many teams have a better winning % over the same 25 years
July 7th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
He already quoted the # of winning season over 25 years but he can’t say who was better.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Priesttj Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
He already quoted the # of winning season over 25 years but he can’t say who was better.
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How chickenshyt” he can’s say who’s better, waaa, waa, waaa.
Why don’t you inform yourself, instead of spouting slogans.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com
July 7th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Priest,
Who has won LESS games the last 6 years than the Raiders? No smartarse comebacks, just answer the question.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
The Buffalo Bills have been better over the last 30 yrs.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
The same ? from the same retard everytime. Do you have any other premise for discussion or doesn’t your mind ever shift out of 1st gear.
Duh Duh! how many games have the Raiders won the past 6 years…….duh! ah bet youcaint ..aynsa da questun?
July 7th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
The Chicago Bears have been better over the last 30 yrs
July 7th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
The Denver Broncos have been twice as good over the last 30 yrs.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
The Dallas Cowboys have been over twice as good over the last 30 yrs
And I’m only on the D’s
July 7th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
The Green Bay Packers have been twice as good as the Raiders over the last 30 yrs.
You getting the point Priest?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
The Indy Colts? geesh, don’t even ask.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Knew you couldnt do it. LOL! You NEVER answer any question I ask. All you do is try and shove your Raider Koolaid drinkn ideals down everyones throat and you run like a bitch when someone actually calls a spade a spade. If you werent such a bitch you would man up and answer some simple questions.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
The Kansas City Chiefs have had 11 winning seasons in the last 30, better than the Raiders 6.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Might as well stop KK, the bitch has gotten off the ride, too scary.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
KK,
We were in the PO in the 90s and a SB in 02. We made the POs 4 times from 99- 02!!
BHP,
Will talk more about Ryan after 1 full season with the Browns. I thought he was the worst DC We ever hired.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
The Miami Dolphins 13 in the last 30
July 7th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
That’s (2) KK so where are the rest?
If you go through the entire league you’ll see that the Raiders are easily in the top ten of the league and not that that makes me proud I’m just making a point.
Winning is NOT a given in fact it’s much more likely that you will lose. So if we can win starting this season if you really put it in perspective 6 years a is a very short time in relation to rest of the league.
It doesn’t make it easier it just says we are much better off than MOST of the league. But you let these haters make you feel like we’re the worst thing ever and we’re not, not by a very long shot. In our division we’ve won more than anyone and we will again. They had their time and now we’ll have ours……………period
Class dismissed!!
Adios!
July 7th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Priesttj Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
He already quoted the # of winning season over 25 years but he can’t say who was better.
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Priest, to answer your question, since you wouldn’t. Looks like about 75% of the league has done better than the Raiders in the last 30 yrs. The advent of Free Agency.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Dude, your question are soo freakin’ remedial………..I assume they are rhetorical……later
July 7th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Priesttj Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
That’s (2) KK so where are the rest?
If you go through the entire league you’ll see that the Raiders are easily in the top ten of the league and not that that makes me proud I’m just making a point.
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That’s a damned lie, I just pointed to 8 before I quit counting.
Can’t you be honest?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Priest
Come back around 3am and continue your propaganda unchecked. lol
Dude, he’ll wait till I go to bed, and talk about me like a dog. lol
July 7th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
KK, winning years and winning % is 2 very different things.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Which one do you want to discuss?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
I am not joking when I say this: I think he works for the Raiders.
His propaganda is so rediculous that there is no other explanation. Its like the last 5 or 6 years never happened.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
BHP
You are terribly uninformed about the Raiders. I pounded you with facts, until you slunk off, too funny.
Yet, you’re awfully condescending. Inform yourself
http://www.Pro-Foolball-Reference.com
July 7th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Priesttj Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
KK, winning years and winning % is 2 very different things.
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xplain it to me.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Priest,
What is the MAIN reason for the collapse of this team the last 5 or 6 years?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
The last time I checked it was maybe 2003 when Glenn Dickey was running his mouth like you are. The Raiders were still in the top 3 or 4 since the last SB. These past 4 years have probably dropped us much lower. But my point is a 500 winning % is not as bad as YOU make it out to be.
Say if we were to win 10 or more games a year 4 years straight we could be right back in the top 15%. That was my basic premise was your assumption that we are the worst team in the league in the last 25 years. Up to 2002 we were in the top 5 if I remember correctly.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Priesttj Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
The last time I checked it was maybe 2003 when Glenn Dickey was running his mouth like you are. The Raiders were still in the top 3 or 4 since the last SB
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Absolutely ridiculous comment. The last time you checked in 2003.
Yet you run your mouth in here everyday also, no?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Yeah, you don’t remember correctly.
That’s the point I’ve made here tonight. All you know is old tired slogans.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Priest,
Why do you use so many “ifs” and “buts”? If the Raiders win 10 for 4. If the last 5 years wouldnt have happened. The Raiders arent going to win 10 in the next 4 and the last 5 years DID happen. Your rationale is ludicrous. The numbers do not lie and the can not be massaged to fit your argument.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Why don’t you inform yourself, instead of talking things you know nothing about.
http://www.Pro-Foolball-Reference.com
July 7th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Shutup Dude your questions are so damn goofy man. How many times does someone have to tell you Al Davis is at fault now cut and paste from now on. Cause I’m tired of your retarded ??’s Get a grip!! your worst than MR, hell you probably are MR. lol
Had you read earlier post that ? was answered
July 7th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Uh huh! yeah right! what are those slogans?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
6 (six) winning seasons in the last 30 yrs.
How in the hell do you figure the Raiders in the top 10% over the last 30 yrs?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
KK, which one are addressing winning % or winning seasons? or don’t you know the difference?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
I asked “what” not “who” the reason was. Nice try though.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Anyway you want to dice it.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
LOL!!!! This is getting real!! Cat throws out HARD facts, not opinion, fact about how many winning seasons and Priest just cant deal. WTF? Commitment to Excellence, right Priest.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Also if you look at every team since 1984 that 500 winning % is not as bad as YOU think. In fact it’s in the top 5% of the league.
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Post 708. Can you defend that statement, or were you just talking out of your arse?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
I was talking about winning % if you read my post.
The past 6 years no question dropped us quite a bit if you only take the past 25 years. But when Glenn Dickey was talking he was talking about since 84 as well but no one wants to take into acct the entire history.
All of you just want to section out all the winning and addres the losing which is fine. But you shouldn’t get upset when someone else takes just the winning seasons. Right?
Right??
July 7th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
I always ask the guy why he thinks this year will be different and he never answers. He nevers answers to anything, just makes outlandish predictions and warns the rest of the NFL that the Silver and Black are BACK!!
July 7th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
6 winning seasons in the last 30 years is in the Top 5% of NFL winning percentage? really
July 7th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Yeah the Raiders were good 40 yrs ago, but not in the last 30
July 7th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Can we debate and argue without insults or bashing please!
July 7th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
How far back in history is even relevant?? Who gives a flying funk what the Raiders did in the 60’s or 70’s? I wasnt even born yet and couldnt care less. Thats part of the reason Al Davis is the joke of the sports world because he holds on to the past like grim death.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Dude don’t blame us because your comprehension is lacking. If you actually read the post and understood them you’d have your answers.
Dude you really need help. reading and comprehension are certainly not your strong points.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Dude your not being born yet,……….. that’s a personal problem.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
We were in the POs in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s.
We played in the SB in the 70s, 80s, and 00s.
Not too bad!!!!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Priesttj Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Dude don’t blame us because your comprehension is lacking. If you actually read the post and understood them you’d have your answers.
Dude you really need help. reading and comprehension are certainly not your strong points.
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Dude, as you know this is what he typically resorts to. He calls everyone stupid, and he can’t even defend himself.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
I read and comprehend just fine. You dont answer sheet. Your last post is EXACTLY what you pull every time. NONE, not ONE of your opinions have any legs to stand on and flys in the face of conventional wisdom. Your thoughts are nothing but wishful thinking.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Not being born yet is a “personal problem”? Ummm..ohhhkayyy. Got me, I guess??????
July 7th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Dude, you give him too much credit. I think he works for the Raiders, like you said, and is just flat out lying.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Raider O, I can’t help it, it seems like the same issues every time these two get together. They ask the same questions and want you to answer them over and over again.
If you don’t they get upset. As if the issue is new.
Have you seen that Movie same 50 dates? that’s what it feels like.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Priest,
How many wins for the Raiders this year?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
I’ve made my point tonight. I’ll go to bed now. This guy is sleezy. He’ll come on tomorrow and assert the same bs about the Raiders last 30 yrs/
Gnite.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
KK, I called him stupid? when did I do that? I said the answers were in earlier post. he can read can’t he?
Why should I answer the same question? Just read the earlier post.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
Slimey as Al Davis’ hair.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Years that we made the POs:
70, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 80, 82, 83, 84, 85, 90, 91, 93, 00, 01, and 02!
7 times in the 70s
5 times in the 80s
3 times in the 90s
3 times in 00s
4 SBs and 3 SB wins
Not too bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
KK the only person in here that talks about the past 25 – 30 years is YOU. I couldn’t care less I like talking about the present team.
It’s you and the Al Davis haters that like to rehash the past 6 years. I don’t care.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
Raider O, they’ll take offense to that, why I don’t know but they will.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
KK,
Look at my prev post, so why you keep saying that Al was a bad GM for 30 years?!?!
Makes no sense to me sir!
July 7th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
The present team is pretty good IMO, but they get angry when you say that. I guess because they don’t want Mr Davis to get any credit.
IMO our history is great and the future looks bright. Not many teams can boast those two things.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
It’s like they want us to feel terrible about MR Davis, and if we don’t they attack us.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Al makes mistakes just like the rest of us. He is not just the GM, but he is the owner too. He has done very well, so he earned the right to do as he please. He is one of the NFL’s all time greats.
We are lucky that he he is the Raiders Owner and GM. He puts a good product every year when it comes to talent. He needs to learn to hire better coaches, and then keep them for a long time. IMHO
July 7th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
BHP,
I like this team, and You can see Al’s plan come together. A great rushing game, and a QB who can buy time with his feet, and has a cannon to get the ball down field. Sure handed TE, and fast WRs who can stretch the field. I like this offense, now they need to play well together, all the weapons are there. IMO
July 7th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
Dude Says:
How far back in history is even relevant?? Who gives a flying funk what the Raiders did in the 60’s or 70’s? I wasnt even born yet and couldnt care less. Thats part of the reason Al Davis is the joke of the sports world because he holds on to the past like grim death.
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Give the other side just a LITTLE credit, though…
First of all — no matter what the numbers say — BHP is right about the difference between Winning Percentage and Winning Seasons. There is a huge difference, and the Raiders Winning Percentage isn’t nearly as bad as their record for Winning Seasons (or Losing Seasons, if it makes you feel better).
Either way — We ALL know the team hasn’t won nearly enough lately.
But, Dude — You’re COMPLETELY WRONG about not going back all those years. Why is it you — or anybody — can arbitrarily pick a date, then just say THOSE GAMES are the only record that counts?
Why 6-years? Why not 3-years? Why not 17 1/2 years, if that fits your argument? What’s that…Oh, yeah, you guys already do that.
In that case, what’s wrong with being satisfied with the way things ended last season…and the promise of good things to come?
Guys with the “things will never get better” argument, just because things go bad every now and then (for ALL teams)…probably wait til the team does something good before they wear their colors, or claim they knew all along that the team was on the verge of greatness.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
Raider O, I just went back over the post KK said we had 6 winning seasons in 30 years when we actually had 11, over the past 25 season we had 7 based on yur post. #774.
I will admit iI don’t do the research I used to do but if he was right about the past 25 years where 70% of the league was better than the Raiders I owe him an apology. I was wrong I use to know this stuff pretty good. Recently I just haven’t kept up.
But it does shock me that the Indy Colts has a better record over the past 25 years. They were horrible for 25 straight years. Dallas the 49ers and a few others I can understand but the COLTS?
July 7th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
HayesDaze37, My argument was essentially based on winning % not winning years. I used to know our winning % very well but KK only like to take the past 25 years to make his point. Which is IMO his way of slamming Al.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
But just to settle the discussion if Huff24 or someone capable would like to can you post the teams winning %’s over the past 25 years?
Somene who’s good at it. So that we’ll all know. Also the winning %’s of each team’s history. If it’s not asking too much.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Cherry-picking the record to suit a short-sighted agenda is a short-sighted way of proving a point.
Assuming the Raiders don’t have as good a chance to improve as any other young team is a mistake I hope our opponents make this year.
Time to improve that all-time Winning Percentage again.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
The official stats from NFL.com are where it’s at…
July 7th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
BHP,
If you don’t have the time, don’t do the research. It’s sports, and a lot more important things are going on in the works around he to keep track of everything.
As far as Indy, they made the POs the last 8 or 9 years!! Due to that offense!!
July 7th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Going on in the world around us to keep ….
Sorry about the prev post, but it’s getting too late.
Good Night Gents, and later Nation.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:10 am
Since the merger:
1. Mia .608
2. Pit .603
3. Dal .594
4. Den .586
5. Min .572
6. SF .568
7. Oak .5582
7. Was .5582
9. Jac .543
10. Stl .534
11. NE .519
12. Phi .511
13. GB .509
14. KC .506
15. Bal .503
16. Chi .497
17. Sea .492
18. NYG .4854
19. Ind .4845
20. Ten .481
21. Buf .474
22. Car .466
23. SD .463
24. Cle .458
25. Cin .447
26. NYJ .435
27. Det .425
28. Atl .422
29. NO .418
30. Ari .402
31. TB .393
32. Hou .333
So much for all those disastrous years having “ruined” Al’s legacy.
Even after the failures on the field in recent years, the Raiders’ record since the merger is as impressive as almost any other team’s in the league — and waaaay more impressive than almost all other teams’ records.
Throw in the good AFL years Al had, and “his” record as a GM goes way up. No, I’m not saying winning in the AFL was as tough as winning in the NFL…but to just throw out aguy’s background is like tossing out his resume’ — it just doesn’t work that way.
Al’s legacy will live as long as his Raiders do.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:10 am
I did some of it and the Colts made up a lot of ground the past 20 years. Boy! was wrong our record is not very good the past 25 years as KK said. It’s unimpressive after the 83 SB we fell off quite a bit.
Previously we were fairly dominant. From ‘85 to ‘98 and the past 6 years is where we really were mediocre about a 19 year period. Other than those years the Raiders were dominant the rest of their 50 year history.
Not bad really.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:13 am
Those will be good stats for the nay-sayers to awaken to.
It’s a great morning to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
July 8th, 2009 at 12:14 am
Raider O, quiet as kept the last 10 years I’ve been too preoccupied to do nearly as much as I did prior to that. I used to be a football encyclopedia, college and pro I just dn’t have the energy I used to.
Adios!
July 8th, 2009 at 12:19 am
HD37, I knew the overall record was great but this last 6 years has really hurt us we used to be in the top two. And prior to 1990 we were the most winningest franchise in sports.
The new era will remedy that IMO……so we’ll see.
Thanks HD37
July 8th, 2009 at 12:24 am
Playoff Wins:
1. Dal 26
2. Pit 23
3. SF 20
4. OAKLAND 19
5. Mia 18
6. NE 17
6. Was 17
8. Min 16
9. Den 15
9. Stl 15
11. NYG 13
11. Phi 13
13. Buf 12
13. GB 12
13. Ten 12
16. Ind 11
17. Chi 8
17. SD 8
19. Sea 7
20. Atl 6
20. Car 6
20. NYJ 6
23. Cin 5
23. Jac 5
23. TB 5
26. Bal 4
26. Cle 4
28. KC 3
29. NO 2
30. Ari 1
30. Det 1
32. Hou 0
Super Bowl Records:
1. Dal 5-3
2. Pit 5-1
3. SF 5-0
4. NE 3-3
5. Was 3-2
5. Den 2-4
7. NYG 3-1
7. OAKLAND 3-1
7. Mia 2-3
10. Ind 2-0
10. Stl 1-2
10. Buf 0-4
13. Chi 1-1
13. GB 1-1
13. Min 0-3
16. Bal 1-0
16. TB 1-0
16. Cin 0-2
16. Phi 0-2
20. Atl 0-1
20. Car 0-1
20. SD 0-1
20. Sea 0-1
20. Ten 0-1
25. Ari 0-0
25. Cle 0-0
25. Det 0-0
25. Hou 0-0
25. Jac 0-0
25. KC 0-0
25. NO 0-0
25. NYJ 0-0
12-Win Seasons:
1. SF 11
2. Dal 10
3. Den 7
4. Ind 6
4. Mia 6
4. OAKLAND 6
4. Pit 6
4. Stl 6
9. Chi 5
9. GB 5
11. Buf 4
11. Min 4
11. NE 4
11. NYG 4
11. Phi 4
11. Ten 4
17. KC 3
17. SD 3
17. Was 3
20. Atl 2
20. Bal 2
20. Cin 2
20. Jac 2
20. NO 2
20. Sea 2
26. Car 1
26. Cle 1
26. Det 1
26. NYJ 1
26. TB 1
31. Ari 0
31. Hou 0
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All those stats show a team in the top-10 of those categories since the merger. Not the past 6-years, or 18-years. Since the merger means LONG TERM.
Al’s loading his team with talent, and it’s entirely possible they improve a great deal — to deny that possibility exists is just being stubborn…NO MATTER WHAT AL’S DONE THE LAST 6-YEARS.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:28 am
Those stats are why Al’s in the Hall Of Fame. Those stats tell me Al knows how to put a winner together, and methinks it’s time for it to happen again.
Later
July 8th, 2009 at 1:30 am
Priest, Dude asked you a question and you still haven’t answered. How many wins do you predict for the Raiders this year?
July 8th, 2009 at 1:32 am
I predict 4, by the way. And I will come here to own up to my prediction if I’m drastically wrong. Are you going to give us a prediction based upon your NFL knowledge, Priest, or are you going to just keep prancing around in the skirt and pom poms?
July 8th, 2009 at 2:58 am
my god some BHP really showed how dense he is….
winning seasons is a hollow stat, winning% is what matters, thats the only way to look at it, hence why all franchises beside the raiders uses it… its it night or day, loss or win, nothing in between…. ad since 1989 we sucked, but BHP claims we have been successful lately…. I wonder what parameter he uses f success because we have had 3 great years since 89, thats THIRTY years ago…..
July 8th, 2009 at 5:50 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
LMN, how the heck are ya?
July 8th, 2009 at 6:01 am
good morning Hwnrdr, LMN …
anybody seen TW? we need to have a little chat
July 8th, 2009 at 6:06 am
Good Morning Rockstar…I’ve seen that…
Some people takes blogs seriously.
July 8th, 2009 at 6:07 am
Hwnrdr: how do you take your coffee brother?
I’ll have Gabby (waitress) make us a fresh pot while the other AM crew Raidah fans trickle in …
July 8th, 2009 at 6:11 am
no kidding. I wont talk bad about TW while he’s not here, but I thought he was a pretty cool dude before he launched a personal attack last night after I left
We’ve had some good football discussion in the past. not sure what triggered this episode. I know we have different political views, but this isn’t a politics blog so i’m not sure that even matters.
I’m anxious to hear what he has to say for himself
July 8th, 2009 at 6:14 am
Raider O, S&B and MR and I all go back and forth about topics fairly often but I think we all understand this blog is for discussion/debate. people are entitled to their opinions
July 8th, 2009 at 6:16 am
sorry, I don’t mean to ramble …
anybody seen Vegas or 4eva? haven’t seen these two regulars in a while.
July 8th, 2009 at 6:19 am
Hey Rockstar,
I take my coffee with a little cream and sugar. Thanks for the pot.
I think it had something to do with McNair, but…I won’t speak for anyone but myself. I haven’t seen Vegas posts in a while. I am not sure about 4eva…
July 8th, 2009 at 6:20 am
new NFL topics of discussion:
-Roger Goodell and Jim Mora to climb Mount Rainier!
-new Giants LB Michael Boley suspended Week 1 for beating his wife
-Donte Stallworth said he didn’t feel drunk after the 4 shots of tequila
your thoughts?
July 8th, 2009 at 6:26 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
July 8th, 2009 at 2:58 am
I wonder what parameter he uses f success because we have had 3 great years since 89, thats THIRTY years ago…..
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Or perhaps TWENTY?
Anyway, LMN lets talk some cycling! Go Armstrong! Go USA! Why is it that, like, four American men have taken cycling seriously in the last 25 years, and two of them have dominated the world? And without getting caught doping like so many Europeans? (OK, Landis got caught but I was referring to Armstrong and Lemond).
July 8th, 2009 at 6:26 am
Roger Goodell and Jim Mora to climb Mount Rainier!
Hah…I can hear the ranting on that one…
-Donte Stallworth said he didn’t feel drunk after the 4 shots of tequila
i don’t either, but I know I am not driving anywhere after that because of the “creep” factor!
As for the Giants LB…Geez!
July 8th, 2009 at 6:31 am
Roger Goodell and Jim Mora to climb Mount Rainier!
Hah…I can hear the ranting on that one…
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yeah, I wonder if any players on the Seahawks will face suspensions while Mora Jr. is HC there? Jim might even be picking Roger’s brain about the Mike Vick scenario (or vice versa)
July 8th, 2009 at 6:33 am
good morning BSJ. ready for something lucid?
Raiders playoffs 2009! 10-6. whoop whoop
where’s OAKlifer. the AM crew needs a Kool-Aid splash!
July 8th, 2009 at 6:38 am
It appears TW tried to get lucid up in your azz, Nugent. Kinda funny actually.
And 10-6 is only achievable with Southwick on the field. Even at WR or FS he will be worth two wins…
July 8th, 2009 at 6:42 am
Southwick at WR or FS?
maybe TW needs to get lucid up in your azz too?
Danny Southwick is our QB of the future. You don’t develop a pro bowl calibur QB by having him play WR or DB! Besides,I doubt Danny can run a 4.2 forty
July 8th, 2009 at 7:00 am
Hey guys,
At this point…I BELIEVE!!! 10-6 is actually not impossible. I guess we will find out at the opener what team we have this year…** Just trying to stay positive***
July 8th, 2009 at 7:06 am
Federal appeals court overturns conviction of killer of former Raider Fred Biletnikoff’s daughter
A federal appeals court today reversed the 2001 murder conviction of a Peninsula man serving a life prison term for killing the daughter of former Oakland Raiders Hall of Famer Fred Biletnikoff.
In a 43-page ruling, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals found that San Mateo County prosecutors improperly excluded two African-American jurors for racially motivated reasons, tainting the trial of Mohammed Ali. Ali was convicted of first degree murder for the February 1999 slaying of his girlfriend, 20-year-old Tracey Biletnikoff, in the office of a San Mateo drug treatment center.
Ali always admitted killing Biletnikoff at the treatment center, where the couple was attending meetings, confessing to the crime to police after first fleeing to Mexico. But the question for jurors was whether Ali was guilty of premeditated first degree murder, or manslaughter, based on his defense that the killing was provoked by an argument over Ali’s relapse into drug use. A manslaughter conviction would entitle Ali to a much shorter sentence.
The 9th Circuit concluded that Chief Assistant District Attorney Stephen Wagstaffe, who prosecuted the case, struck two African-American jurors from the jury pool, using other explanation as “pretexts for racial discrimination.” The U.S. Supreme Court has found that prosecutors cannot exclude jurors based on race, or run the risk of violating a defendant’s constitutional rights.
In a unanimous decision, Judge Marsha Berzon wrote that Wagstaffe provided “implausible” reasons for dismissing the jurors, and that there was “overwhelming evidence” he “acted with discriminatory intent.” As a result, the court found that Ali should get a new trial.
San Mateo County District Attorney Jim Fox expressed dismay at the ruling, noting that the lower courts had all rejected the same jury bias argument. “We are terribly disappointed because frankly it’s revictimizing the family,” Fox said. “I can assure you we will do what we can to make sure Mr. Ali is not released from custody.”
The state attorney general’s office can ask the 9th Circuit to reconsider the case with an 11-judge panel, or San Mateo County prosecutors can retry Ali.
Albert Kutchins, Ali’s attorney, said the decision was a “fairly blunt rebuke” to the California courts that rejected the racial bias argument, and is hopeful Ali will have a chance for a retrial.
“It cries out to me as a manslaughter case,” he said.
A San Mateo County judge sentenced Ali to 64 years-to-life in prison. At his sentencing, Ali, now 33, apologized to the Biletnikoff family, saying in court, “It’s not a day pass by that I don’t think about Tracey.”
The family has set up a foundation in Tracey Biletnikoff’s name to deal with substance abuse and domestic violence issues. The Fred and Angela Biletnikoff, who head the foundation, could not be reached for comment today.
By Howard Mintz (Mercury News)