TSN: Raiders under radar
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, July 13th, 2009 at 9:32 am in Oakland Raiders.
In a Sporting News story authored by Profooballtalk.com founder Mike Florio, the Raiders are named as an NFL team flying under the radar as a postseason possibility.
Florio can now have his “hater” label removed _ until the next time he writes something less than glowing about all things silver and black, at which time he will join the legions of those out to get the Raiders.
I take exception with only one of his claims _ that the Raiders are “solid on defense.”
I’ll have to see that one to believe it, given Oakland’s propensity to give up rushing yardage both in steady gains as well as huge chunks during the Rob Ryan regime. (Ryan would have you believe it was mostly big plays).
Florio also seems mildly optimistic about Cleveland and St. Louis as turnaround teams.
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July 13th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Thanks Jerry!
July 13th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Who does Number two work for?
July 13th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Wrong!
Florio is a hater to the core just like the ESPN talking heads.
He will take a cheap shot at our organization and owner any chance he gets.
July 13th, 2009 at 9:42 am
I said we will win 8/9 games this season!!
Also,
Nnamdi to the PB!
Lechler to the PB!
Miller to the PB!
Gallery to the PB!
July 13th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Get your KoolAide Ready!!!
July 13th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Florio is a hater to the core just like the ESPN talking heads.
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the Raiders are the team that everybody loves to hate.
you’re either a diehard fan or a hater. there usually is no in between.
July 13th, 2009 at 9:45 am
repost….
OAKlifer Says:
July 13th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Morning Double R!!!!!
exlaraiderseasonticketholder,
Milsap will be in Utah this is a Negotiating tool to force them to trade Boozer to match the sheet then wolla pritch slapped we are one of the only few teams with cap space to trade with then we bring in hienrich in a 3 way deal!!! and if not and Utha cant match we get a starting PF that will be backing up LA and spliting time at SF if needed I really like the kid would I rather have him than a proven PG at this point no!!! would I rather have him than Artest at this Point HE!! yes!!! Face it if Odem leaves for overpayment else where you will be wishing you still had AAriza and Odem not two guys (kobe&Artst) each taking 19-30 shots a gamne!!!! BALK @ that!!! Oh and as far as Patty cake goes he would have been what we here in Raiderland call camp fotter/practice Squad no way he makes the final roster by beating out Broy Bayless Blake Martell and all the other G’s we have!!!!
(support local bloggers)
July 13th, 2009 at 9:47 am
you’re either a diehard fan or a hater. there usually is no in between.
Florio is a hater
July 13th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Profooballtalk
on a day they ban one of our own sad…..very sad….
July 13th, 2009 at 9:52 am
what’s up OAKlifer?!?
have a good weekend?
looks like the AM crew went malnourished this morning. Jerry Mac didn’t have a new blog until just minutes ago and the convo just wasn’t there.
I had a seminar across town to attend this morning. talk about LAME
July 13th, 2009 at 9:53 am
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July 13th, 2009 at 10:03 am
I take exception with only one of his claims _ that the Raiders are “solid on defense.”
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at DE Burgess is oft injured & disgruntled. last year of his contract. rumored on the trade block. Ellis is older than dirt. played the last 3 years at OLB. Scott was bad against the run, but an impressive pass rusher last season. has bulked up in the offseason
at DT Sands lost weight, but is also now being reportedly shopped. Kelly is another year removed from that knee surgery and has been impressive in NO-CONTACT ota’s.
at OLB Alston has bulked up and received the majority of the starter snaps in OTA’s. Can Slade Norris make an impact in training camp and steal this job, or will Ricky Brown slide back over from MLB and regain his starting job (before injury last season)?
both safety spots are HUGE question marks. Hiram Eugene is garbage. Huff hasn’t lived up to his 7th overall pick status. Mitchell & Branch have a combined ZERO NFL starts. Branch is coming off IR and Mitchell can’t run (hamstring) and missed most of OTA’s due to a school commitment and NFL rules.
July 13th, 2009 at 10:18 am
I would prefer for Florio to have continued to let the Raiders fly under the radar. The less attention, the better.
July 13th, 2009 at 10:24 am
What PFT gives, in the Monday one liners they take away:
“The Raiders are packaging tickets to their home game with the Broncos with those to a woman’s MMA fight. [Editor’s note: Apparently, the goal was to ensure that customers would have a chance to take in some actual athletic talent.”
July 13th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Is not Florio the editor?
July 13th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Florio is not a true hater. I wouldn’t even label him that. I see him more as a Kool Kell.
Florio has actually admitted that he is/was a Raider fan. He tries to stay fair, but like many here (including Jerry) don’t have a lot of positive stuff to say about a team that has been on a free fall for the last 6 seasons.
I do find Florio to post some of the more positive blogs about the Raiders. Ofcourse, he ads his dumb jukes in at times which makes him look like a hater. lol
July 13th, 2009 at 10:31 am
There is one team that Florio bashes the most, almost any chance that he gets. He loves bagging on the Patriots, as much as he can do so to a winning team.
July 13th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Editor, owner (maybe that’s NBC now) and writer.
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exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Is not Florio the editor?
July 13th, 2009 at 10:33 am
what’s up OAKlifer?!?
have a good weekend?
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Great weekend man we spent it on lake Billy Chinook it was beautiful!!!!
How was the annual I figured you got busted for trapping or something!!!! LOL didnt see ya on here damn those seminars!!!!!!
the goal was to ensure that customers would have a chance to take in some actual athletic talent.”
LMAO @ this
(suppport local beat writers)
July 13th, 2009 at 10:42 am
OAKlifer: the block party was awesome man, thanks for asking. We had about 300 people. Me and 2 buddies played flag football against 15 kids (3rd to 8th grade probably). haha. We tore them up. I went all Danny Southwick/Chris O’Neill on them!
one of my friends is a Steelers fan and the other is a Chiefs fan. I should have played on the kids team and went all Jack Tatum on the big guys! hehe
July 13th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Mike Florio’s comments as to the Raiders propects for this season. Is just anther of a growing list of national media doing their own homework on the Raiders instead of just parroting what the locals have to say.
IMO the national media is taking stock in what Russell’s late season surge had to say. They are looking at what the did going 3 and 3 in the last 6 games and taking it as a sign of a turnaround.
The local media has such a grudge against Al Davis that it makes them overlook the team itself. Some of the more respected memners of the media Like Solomon Wilcots and Mike Smith are making positive statements and the rest are starting to come out of the woodwork so as not to look like a ‘johnnie come lately’.
Smart ex-footballers like Phil Simms and Gannon have not bee on board with the anti-Russell crowd and now others are taking notice. Russell is the biggest reason for most of their change of heart but they wont say it publicly, YET.
That’s why I as well as some others are taking the stance that we have on the prspects of the coming season. Russell IMO by mid-season will have the NFL jumping on his bandwagon. Because of the weapons around him. Florio’s comments as to the defense also go along with my theory that the offense giving this defense some support will bode well for this defense which I’ve been saying all along is not nearly as bad as the stats suggest.
My comments earlier to SnB are consistent with that. Our DT’s are very underrated. As is our LBers if the safety position can stabilize this will be a very good defense. A defense capable of carrying this offense until midseason when I think the offense will be good.
I don’t predict records but I feel if my assesment of Russell proves true this team could well make a run for the playoffs. Not a prediction but if things fall right it could happen.
July 13th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Priesttj,
I shouldn’t have brought up Raji or Monroe yesterday. The draft is over and we need to focus on the players the Raider have.
But I will stand by my statement that Raji would have FIXED the most pressing D-Line issues by providing talent and depth…something that’s lacking right now. Warren is more suited as a 3-tech…but is a good depth guy. Ryan Boschetti is a project and Terdell Sands is..well..Terdell Sands. No one is gameplanning for any of these guys. Plus all those guys are veterans who have long since topped out talent wise.
As for Eugene Monroe…adding a Left Tackle of his pedigree would have resolved the 2nd most important position on the field. Mario Henderson has a lot of potential too…but adding Monroe to the competition would have been nice to have.
As for D-HB: Good talent…excellent attitude and I am rooting for him and Mike Mitchell. But the value was terrible. Louis Murphy is going to demonstrate in camp why taking receivers very high in the draft is not necessary.
July 13th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Priest,
Tommy Kelly is the only unknown on the D-Line. He is coming off of knee surgery so he might breakout.
Warren, Sands, Boschetti, Joseph are all veterans in this league. Been in the league for 8 to 10 yrs….Its starting to get a little late waiting for this explosion of talent to breakthrough.
Would you seriously put those guys in the top 10 or 15 in the league?
July 13th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Rockstar,
Agree with your earlier post about the defensive questions.
I think its okay to put some scrutiny on this group given the competition this year.
NFC East / AFC North / Broncos / Jets / Chiefs are going to run the ball until the Raiders can demonstrate an ability to stop it…The short runs AND THE long runs.
July 13th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Priest,
As always…I do agree with you on your Russell assessment.
July 13th, 2009 at 11:03 am
I have been and always will be of the opinion that the offensive line is the most important unit on a football team. The greatness of the Raiders was built on “Hall of Fame” caliber Olines.
That being said I agree completely with the SnB assesment of our Dline.
Let’s stop blaming poor coaching and lack of “gap discipline”.
Our Dlinemen get knocked out of the way by good Oline units.
The talent is not there. Perhaps we will address in next year’s draft. Ellis and some of the rookies at DE may help but we are soft on this unit.
July 13th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Well Raider Nation,
It’s 80 degrees outside and the golf course is calling. Have a great Raider Afternoon. Last week, I shot a 65! Then I got to the back 9.
July 13th, 2009 at 11:22 am
You homers make wearing a raiders cap in public embarrassing.
July 13th, 2009 at 11:24 am
“I take exception with only one of his claims _ that the Raiders are “solid on defense.”
I’ll have to see that one to believe it”
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Hater!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111ELEVEN
July 13th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Does anyone have an update on Danny Southwick’s private passing camp? I heard Jerry and Timmy were gonna come help their fellow future HOFer…
July 13th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Looks like Cheney/Bush/Gonzales/turdblossom are all going to jail!!!!YES!!!!!
July 13th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Now its back to politics its must be a slow football week.
July 13th, 2009 at 11:49 am
“Florio can now have his “hater” label removed _ until the next time he writes something less than glowing about all things silver and black, at which time he will join the legions of those out to get the Raiders.”
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Jerry Mac never seems to acknowledge that the Raiders DO generate an inordinate amount of criticism in media circles.
We all know that the Raiders, with their history of success, cockiness and disregard for the PR game, have fostered this resentment. But old-school Jerry thinks its just because we’ve been sucking for six years. Yeah right. If that were all it took to turn the sports world against one team, well then the Warriors would…never mind.
Jerry, it’s OK to admit many media types get extra fun out of our Raider misfortunes. In this day and age, impartiality in sports journalism is a laughable fantasy (it’s hard enough buying into the concept of an impartial referee). So Jerry, don’t be so zealous in mocking those who decry the haters. We all know our team deserves criticism, just don’t delude us that the media is objective in providing it.
July 13th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Bo.
I agree. The Raiders have always evoked a negative response from other NFL cities whether it be media or fans.
I have only seen the Raiders in opposing NFL stadiums and have done so through the good times and the bad.
The reaction has always been the same. Negative.
The history of winning for as long as we did has impacted many fans and media.
Try living in Pittsburgh as a Raider fan and you will know what I mean.
July 13th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
July 13th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Anyways back to the Raiders and the other posters in here.
Dakota, Raider O, Dirtyracoon and exlaraiderseasonticketholder can we all agree that this post has gone on forever and we need training camp to start so we can get fresh material everyday!
July 13th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Afternoon 666,BSJ,snb,RR,O.
July 13th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Oops, ment to past this again.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8799596/Why-Al-Davis-had-bigger-impact-than-Bill-Walsh-?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=5
July 13th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Charlie Says:
July 13th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Bo.
I agree. The Raiders have always evoked a negative response from other NFL cities whether it be media or fans.
I have only seen the Raiders in opposing NFL stadiums and have done so through the good times and the bad.
The reaction has always been the same. Negative.
The history of winning for as long as we did has impacted many fans and media.
Try living in Pittsburgh as a Raider fan and you will know what I mean.
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Charlie, are you still in Pitt?
July 13th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Charlie, I’m a Raiders fan in the midwest so I understand completely.
July 13th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Florio has been bagging on the Raiders ever since we went 4-12 the year after the super bowl…
why? you ask???
well, maybe it had something to do with Florio predicting a Super Bowl win for the Raiders that year…
July 13th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Good Afternoon Raccoon.
Bill Walsh or Al Davis???
I say Al his done more, Coach/ GM/ Owner/ Comm!!
July 13th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
SnB, I think where we disagree is your assesment of Warren you keep pigeon holing him as a 3tech. I don’t rightly know what to call him. But wether you realise it or not we don’t utilize the NG in our scheme. A true NG or NT is not needed for this defense to be great. So calling Warren a 3tech means nothing. All he has to do is do the job they’re asking him to do………..period Be it 3tech or 1tech who cares just play the defense called.
July 13th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Does anyone have an update on Danny Southwick’s private passing camp?
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YES. Louis Murphy, Todd Watkins & Will Franklin flew out to Alabama to work out with JaMarcus Russell, while Jonathan Holland, Samie Parker, Shawn Bayes & Nick Miller drove to Gilroy, CA for a private passing camp with Jeff Garcia.
Johnnie Lee Higgins, Chaz Schilens, Darrius Heyward-Bey & Zach Miller flew out to Utah for a private passing camp with Danny Southwick. They are building a chemistry and none of these receiving threats have dropped a pass all week!
Javon Walker & Arman Shields got together with Bruce Gradkowski, Charlie Frye & Andrew Walter for a Madden tournament on PS3 and had some pizza delivered.
July 13th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
I do know that Warren played much better than you’re giving him credit. I know that for a fact. I watch this guy draw doubles and penetrate as well as collapse the pocket. And there were times where Sands played extremely well. It goes unnoticed because he wasn’t consistent. But he dominated the SD center in both games.
July 13th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
AHHHH HAHAH AHA HA HAHAHAHH!!!!!!!!!!
RaiderRockstar that is some funny $#!t hah hahah hah!!!
“Javon Walker & Arman Shields got together with Bruce Gradkowski, Charlie Frye & Andrew Walter for a Madden tournament on PS3 and had some pizza delivered.”
HA HAH HAH HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!
July 13th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
RRS, thanks for the update. Although your tone seemed a bit sarcastic for some reason.
July 13th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
I think Louis Murphy may be the wild card on our team that turns out to be the man.
July 13th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Need DTs, mlb and a qb.
ct raider
July 13th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Danny Southwick was cut!!
lol
July 13th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
RRS, thanks for the update. Although your tone seemed a bit sarcastic for some reason.
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sarcastic? why?
is it any surprise that our best WR’s want to work out with the best QB on the roster? Southwick is our QB of the future. He will be the new face of the franchise next season. These cats want to develop a chemistry and it’s working
July 13th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Danny Southwick was cut!!
lol
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in your dreams!
July 13th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
RR,
LMAO @ 43 & 50!
July 13th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Hey it’s the Lady Raccoon! Very impressed you’d show up on the blog after the embarrassing way you ran away last week. Your old alter-ego Brian would’ve hightailed it to the Bengals blog by now.
Anyway, honey, very excited to hear what kind of excuse you’ve got and hear all about your fun little gang pals. I’m guessing the Greasers are all getting cheeseburgers now at the corner malt shop.
July 13th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
I was playing!!
It’s going t be JR, Garcia, and Southwick at QB!
JR is a bust, so we need Southeick to help us win again!
In Danny I trust!
lol
July 13th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Danny Southwick to the PB!!
July 13th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
O: Russell doesn’t have to be a bust for Southwick to outplay him. Danny just has superior talent, thats all. Danny Southwick will make Russell expendable and we’ll trade him to Washington for a 3rd round pick next offseason. Garcia will stick around next year as an insurance policy (if Danny gets hurt)
July 13th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Superior Talent!!!!!
LMAO
I want some of what you have!!! It’s grrreat!!
July 13th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Raider O Says:
July 13th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Good Afternoon Raccoon.
Bill Walsh or Al Davis???
I say Al his done more, Coach/ GM/ Owner/ Comm!!
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Yep, yep!!
July 13th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sid_Gillman
Sid Gillman coaching tree.
July 13th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
beeecham Says:
July 13th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Hey it’s the Lady Raccoon! Very impressed you’d show up on the blog after the embarrassing way you ran away last week. Your old alter-ego Brian would’ve hightailed it to the Bengals blog by now.
Anyway, honey, very excited to hear what kind of excuse you’ve got and hear all about your fun little gang pals. I’m guessing the Greasers are all getting cheeseburgers now at the corner malt shop.
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B!cHAm, just give the time and place. None of this….I am just around the corner, wait for me BS!!
Bring yer Azz down to S.Sac then give me a call!!
July 13th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
“Florio can now have his “hater” label removed _ until the next time he writes something less than glowing about all things silver and black, at which time he will join the legions of those out to get the Raiders”.
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Is that sarcasm, Jerry?
July 13th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
RR,
Still LMAO.
That was great: Superior Talent!!
I love it!!
You made BSJ so happy and proud! lol!
July 13th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Al was a student of Sid.
Now,
Internet fight!!!
Internet fight!!!
July 13th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
“Florio can now have his “hater” label removed _ until the next time he writes something less than glowing about all things silver and black, at which time he will join the legions of those out to get the Raiders”.
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Jerry is that a sarcastic shot at HayeDaze and Priesttj etal?
July 13th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Florio’s piece is sort of a back handed compliment. Although he does acknowledge that The Raiders have some talent what he is really saying is the division is weak and anyone has a shot.
‘A relatively weak division will help the Raiders’ chances — and they’ll get to show what they can do with respect to their AFC West rivals by playing each of them, right out of the gates.
If the Raiders win all three, they’ll have the inside track for the playoff spot that will go to one of those four teams, no matter how bad each of them might be.’
July 13th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
That coaching tree is interesting. If you brought out Dungy’s coaching treeand Dick Vermiel. Now you see why us old school football fans have such high regard for Gilman and Davis, the game just explodes with innovation after they came pon the scene.
On the other hand you have Paul Brown and Tom Landry. Landry brought about the 4/3 defense and I can’t rmember who originated the 46 defense but it was re-introduced by Buddy Ryan.
July 13th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
I like Buddy!!
He’ll punch you in the face, if you call the wrong play!! lol
July 13th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Raider O, yeah Al davis coached under Sid with the LA Chargers. That’s when Al davis brought in Bill Walsh to NFL. The rest is history.
Most every team in the NFL is running Sid Gilman’s offense. Which Al Davis emphasized with the HB and TE used in the passing game.
July 13th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Nyone see the NFL chnnls top ten gunslingers? Lamonica made #7. Elway didn’t make the list!!! lol
July 13th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Of course Dick Lebeau introduced the zone blitz which is still being used today very effectively.
July 13th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
The Raiders didn’t make the top ten comeback games. I watched the Denver/Oakland 24-0 halftime Monday night game with 5 Donkey fans & took untold s#!+ until the second half when we won 30-27.
July 13th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Lamonica was nuts! a lot of his success was Warren Wells running down those cannon shots. Wells is hands down the most underrated WR in NFL history.
July 13th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
O: laugh all you want, but Danny Southwick is a student of the game. It comes natural to him. He’s probably a mix between Tom Brady, Peyton Manning & Carson Palmer imo. all the tools. All you need to do is hand this kid the keys. he’s a winner. He’ll put the team on his back and carry us to the playoffs. GUARANTEED. I hope Tom Cable puts the most talented players on the field. draft status or money shouldn’t mean anything to Al Davis. He just wants to win.
July 13th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Of course Dick Lebeau introduced the zone blitz which is still being used today very effectively.
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Dick Lebeau is a friggin stud! I wish he was our DC!
July 13th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
The Raiders biggest ever comeback was vs the Saints under Kenny Stabler from what I can remember. We also did it too trhe Chargers on MNF down I think 24 to 0 we won 28-24 Marcus Allen scored 4 times on goal line dives into the EZ.
July 13th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
Actually, KK — If you were halfway as smart as you profess to be, you’d notice that JMac’s own insecurities somehow drive him to mention the “hater” label in here.
Even Jerry must admit, the “hater” label is fluid…if a writer — any writer — writes a negative piece that is based more on conjecture than facts (something today’s “journalists” do a lot of), then that story should be labeled a “hater” story. Write a bunch of those, and the writer deserves to be labeled a hater.
I find it funny how many times Jerry mentions the “hater” label in here…methinks he’s been called it too many times from people who actually think ANY negative press is hater material. Thick skin, Jerr!
KK — if you took off your blinders….and looked in the mirror, you would see your stubborness, based on your hatred of Al Davis, would place you directly in “hater” territory.
Me…I’d rather weigh facts (even the last 6-years!), and stay loyal to my team.
Hater. The first step is admitting you’re one. Say it, KK…hater.
July 13th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
I’d rather hear Raider News from a nonfan. Give it to me straight, Jerry, I can take it!!!
July 13th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Man, Marcus Allen from inside the five yard line was almost always money in the bank.
Over the top, or the sideways sneek! Just get the TD baby!
July 13th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
The Raider/donkey comeback game was great. Al was heard by Denver sports writers as saying “That kid knows NOTHING about football!” and went down to the locker room to tell him what plays would work. The coach he was talking about was Shanahan!!! lol
July 13th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Raiders waive sixth-round pick
Posted by Mike Florio on July 13, 2009 4:53 PM
The Oakland Raiders have found a new way to avoid holdouts by rookie draft picks.
The solution? Cut them.
A league source tells us that the Raiders have waived defensive end Stryker Sulak, a sixth-round pick in the 2009 draft.
The formal designation was “waived/unsigned.”
So, basically, the Raiders have cut Sulak before his rookie training camp. Said the source, “I’ve never seen that happen before.”
But the tactic is permitted. Teams are required only to tender one-year contracts for the rookie minimum to their draft picks. Even if the draft pick were to sign the one-year tender, the team would still have the ability to terminate the non-guaranteed deal.
Sulak was the 26th player picked in round six, and the 199th overall in the draft. The Raiders selected Sulak with a draft pick obtained from the Patriots.
The reason for the Raiders’ decision to cut Sulak isn’t known. Yet.
July 13th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Haters do not necessarily dislike the Raiders, they just can not stand Al Davis. I realize that Al Davis is detrimental to the success of the Raiders. I, just like many of you, want to see the Raiders win. I also want Al Davis to cease acting as general manager. I am a fan, not a “hater”. But, according to many on this blog, criticizing Al Davis immediately deems one a “hater”. This, I believe, is un-American. And, you who label others “haters”, are just a bunch of communists who should defect to Cuba or North Korea.
July 13th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
i don’t know southwick but it can be too much of a stretch to be more “talented” than russell. It’s possible. Buy why did Southwick attend so many colleges??
Russell’s “talent” is he can throw 80 yards. I’m still not a believer that qualifies him to be a NFL qb. Ryan and Boller had cannons also. They were called busts. JR wouldn’t be a bust just a dumb pick at #1 overall in the draft.
July 13th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
I have never heard of a team waiving one of there draft picks, this is weird, i wonder why they did this.
July 13th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Since there has been so little to hate on recently, Al provided some fodder and waived a draft pick…who was never signed…meaning we got absolutely nothing from the pick….meaning F$&*% me that makes us look inept.
July 13th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
why did Southwick attend so many colleges??
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to showcase his arm at 4 different places I guess. who knows? My point is that he’s the most talented QB on the roster and he should play
July 13th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 13th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
O: laugh all you want, but Danny Southwick is a student of the game. It comes natural to him. He’s probably a mix between Tom Brady, Peyton Manning & Carson Palmer imo. all the tools. All you need to do is hand this kid the keys. he’s a winner. He’ll put the team on his back and carry us to the playoffs. GUARANTEED. I hope Tom Cable puts the most talented players on the field. draft status or money shouldn’t mean anything to Al Davis. He just wants to win.
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Don’t sleep on Southwick! Everyone knows the SCIAC is the toughest Div. III conference in Southern California, and Danny dominated it. The greatest Oxy Tiger/Raider since the great Vance Meuller! And for you neophytes, Jack Kemp (RIP) and Jim Mora (PLAYOFFS!?!?!) are also proud Oxy grads…
July 13th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
that makes us look inept
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yes it does, but I knew we weren’t going to keep 5 DE’s! This just means we’re keeping both Burgess & Ellis unless Greyson Gunheim does enough to merit keeping a 5th DE on the roster
Ellis made either Burgess or Sulak expendable. guess they figured D-Burg on a cheap 1 year deal was worth more than trying to groom the next Trevor Scott!?
July 13th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
I’m not sure your assesment of Russell qualifies as a GM. Yet you seem to think so….
July 13th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Southwick was on a mission from God, thus his exceptional college career. I believe he also grew up with an intense hatred of the Univ. of Redlands, so naturally he transferred to Oxy when the QB spot opened up. And today in Redlands they will spit on you just for saying his name…
July 13th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Guy’s training camp hasn’t even started yet ……it doesn’t mean anything. Let’s jump to conclusions at the slightest hint of anything………WOW!
RELAX camps almost here. Let something play out for once, without jumping to conclusions.
July 13th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
I bet along with Sulak there is now an ex-Raider scout looking for employment. Priest, get your resume to HQ pronto…
July 13th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Hey, it’s Lil Al Bigelow! One of my favorite teenage friends. How’re you enjoying your summer vacation, little dude? I know you only have a few more months until scary 10th grade starts, so that’s cool you’re parents let you play on the internet.
Anyway, its time for the grownups to blog now, son, so back outside with you. That slip ‘n slide ain’t gonna turn itself on.
July 13th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
that 6th round pick should have been spent on a DT to compete with Terdell Sands, William Joseph, Ryan Boschetti & Desmond Bryant!
rookie might have ended up starting next to Tommy Kelly!?
LOL
July 13th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Southwick:
Superior Talent!!!
On a mission from God!!!
I can tell if this is still a joke or not!!!
I’m scared!!!
July 13th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Superior Talent!!!
On a mission from God!!!
LMAO
That’s a good example why kids should stay away from hardcore drugs!
July 13th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
That’s a good example why kids should stay away from hardcore drugs!
***
Southwick isn’t a drugg1e, O …
Southwick is to football as Chuck Norris is to martial arts. get it?
July 13th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
LMAO @ 85!!!
RR,
You are killing me!!!
Showcase his arm!!! Superior talent!!!
LMAO
July 13th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
RR,
I wasn’t talking about Southwick ( hardcre drugs). I was talking about you!
LMAO
July 13th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
I can’t take it anymore!!
Chuck Norris!!
LMAO
July 13th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
O: I’m not the one yelling “legalize it!” over here
you must be on some drug$ if you can’t realize the talent that Danny Southwick has …
put on the film. his work speaks for itself
July 13th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Danny Southwick film??!!
What film??!!
July 13th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
RR,
I want to legalize pot, not Crack!!
July 13th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
time to clock out. see you fellas tomorrow
it’s been a pleasure.
July 13th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Have a great, and Crack free evening! lol
July 13th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Raider O, yeah Al davis coached under Sid with the LA Chargers. That’s when Al davis brought in Bill Walsh to NFL. The rest is history.
Not so O,
Davis is the one who actually gave Walsh his first pro gig in 1966 as the Raiders’ running backs coach, not Chargers.
July 13th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Bill Walsh on Al Davis
I’ve been thinking about this subject because the NFL Network phoned me this morning and is coming to my house to tape me speaking about Al. The guy I spoke to said he wants me to talk about what’s been going on with the Raiders this season, but also give an overview of the Raiders since their return to Oakland. He said he doesn’t want this to be negative. He wants an objective look at Davis.
It’s easy for me to be negative about Davis, not as easy to be positive. Trying to think positively I remembered the things Bill Walsh used to tell me about Al. Bill admired Al. I’m not sure he liked Al. Two massive egos in collision, two men wanting to be the face of football in the Bay Area. I could be wrong.
In 1992, when I was writing my book on Bill’s return to Stanford, Bill asked if I knew Al and I said not really — the Raiders had been in L.A. much of my writing career. Bill said that was too bad. He said I would have found Al fascinating.
Well, he sure was right about that.
Bill also told me all his fundamental knowledge about football came from Al and the Raiders when he coached there one season under John Rauch. Rauch was teaching pure Al Davis while Davis was commissioner of the old AFL. Bill gave Al this credit. And I have to remind myself he did.
I’m going to quote a little from my book on Walsh to give you an idea of what Al meant to Bill and how Bill credited him:
“For a while, Walsh stayed on at Stanford (1966) to coach spring ball and help with recruiting. So he’d work all day at Stanford, get in his car, and drive to Oakland, where he worked all night with John Rauch and the Raiders.
“It was then Walsh acquired the core of his football knowledge, even though he only stayed one season. Raiders football was based on the theories of the legendary Sid Gillman who, Walsh says, was ‘Star Wars compared to everyone else in football.’ Al Davis had taken Gillman one step further. And here was Walsh, who had never played as a professional, had never been exposed to football at this level, drinking in this knowledge.
“Walsh had been used to systems that designed four pass plays for the halfback. The Raiders had twenty. The Raiders were one of the first teams to use minicamps to refine players’ skills. Walsh would work late into the night with the Raiders and report to Stanford by 8:00 a.m. the next day. This was the most creative period of his life, but Geri Walsh (Bill’s wife) couldn’t take this new arrangement. With the Raiders, Walsh was on call every minute. He was married to football, not to her, and he realized if he wanted to preserve his family he had to get out.”
End of quote. Walsh got out by coaching the semipro San Jose Apaches of the Continental League. The Raiders provided Bill with the Apaches’ uniforms.
– Lowell
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